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#4 [00:12] <deathspawn> did notch do a secret update and change chest/door sounds?
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#6 [00:15] <|Kiikun|> deathspawn: honestly? i think it was an 'unmentioned' uopdate becayse they have changed
#7 [00:15] <|Kiikun|> lots of sounds have changed o.o;
#8 [00:16] <deathspawn> lol, i haven't noticed anything else, but i noticed the chests and stuff sound like someone needs to put in WD-40
#9 [00:16] <deathspawn> and last night it sounded normal
#10 [00:17] <|Kiikun|> deathspawn: blow off a tnt or a creeper :P
#11 [00:17] <|Kiikun|> wait.. that sounded bad.
#12 [00:17] <deathspawn> haven't done any updating to minecraft itself between then and now
#13 [00:17] <deathspawn> *set off
#14 [00:17] <deathspawn> and ill try that lol
#15 [00:17] <|Kiikun|> i think explosion sound changed too
#16 [00:17] <|Kiikun|> or maybe i just dont explode enoguh things :P
#17 [00:18] <deathspawn> i like the old door sound if he did change it...
#18 [00:18] <|Kiikun|> that will be soundmods...
#19 [00:19] <deathspawn> lol hmm.... im a little indifferent to the tnt sound
#20 [00:20] <deathspawn> okay actually, i like the new tnt
#21 [00:20] <deathspawn> it has more bass
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#26 [00:25] <NeedHelp> Hey, my Minecraft won't work.
#27 [00:25] <Talons1337> I haz a friend who is unable to update their video card drivers and therefore cannot play
#28 [00:26] <NeedHelp> When I start it, I get this error Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 11/13/11 11:26 PM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.8.1 OS: Windo
#29 [00:27] <Talons1337> (NH, you might wanna put that error log on pastebin)
#30 [00:27] <NeedHelp> Pastbin?
#31 [00:27] <Talons1337> art the bottom of the page
#32 [00:28] <Talons1337> at*
#33 [00:28] <NeedHelp> Done
#34 [00:28] <Talons1337> not sure ow it works though
#35 [00:28] <Talons1337> http://mibpaste.com/IpFlY7
#36 [00:29] <Talons1337> First use pastebin then click on the minify url
#37 [00:29] <Talons1337> and click minify
#38 [00:29] <Talons1337> hmmmm
#39 [00:29] <Talons1337> thats confusing
#40 [00:30] <Talons1337> it does ti for you
#41 [00:30] <Talons1337> u jsut need to waits
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#46 [01:08] <mueel> hi everytime i log in and create a world the screen turns black and minecraft crashes..help
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#49 [01:17] <westjgames> hello people
#50 [01:17] <westjgames> Which OpenJDK should I use to run Minecraft
#51 [01:17] <westjgames> 6 or 7?
#52 [01:17] <lemon-rev> 6
#53 [01:17] <lemon-rev> .29
#54 [01:17] <westjgames> ok, thanks, I wasnt sure. It only says 6 and 7 in the Software Centre
#55 [01:18] <lemon-rev> ok should be 6
#56 [01:18] <lemon-rev> 7 is sitll beta
#57 [01:18] <westjgames> thanks
#58 [01:18] <westjgames> Dont wanna be left high and dry on this one
#59 [01:18] <westjgames> Im migrating to Ubuntu11.10
#60 [01:18] <westjgames> from 10.04
#61 [01:18] <lemon-rev> hm, could be good or worse but good luck
#62 [01:19] <westjgames> I used to use windows 7 for Minecraft, but I thought Id take a stab at trying it in Ubuntu
#63 [01:19] <lemon-rev> np
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#66 [01:36] <weirdo> hi im using an old dell inspiron e1505 and minecraft is very laggy is there anyway i can fix this
#67 [01:37] <clarjon1> not much you can do
#68 [01:37] <lemon-rev> get better ram, video card,
#69 [01:37] <clarjon1> ati's dropped support for that vid card
#70 [01:37] <lemon-rev> cpu
#71 [01:37] <clarjon1> or is that nvidia in that model
#72 [01:37] <clarjon1> or intel
#73 [01:37] <clarjon1> hm
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#75 [01:38] <weirdo> so would u suggest tht i get a new laptop or just upgrade the one i own
#76 [01:38] <clarjon1> If you can upgrade it, go for it. But a new laptop would be better
#77 [01:38] <clarjon1> Personally, for gaming, i'd get a desktop
#78 [01:38] <clarjon1> they're much more upgradeable, so you don't have to buy a new one quite as often
#79 [01:38] <clarjon1> Laptops tend to have the parts all integrated into the motherboard lately
#80 [01:39] <clarjon1> so to upgrade the gfx card is to essentially get a new laptop
#81 [01:39] <clarjon1> whereas a desktop, is just swapping out a card :)
#82 [01:39] <weirdo> well im not really a pc gamer i was reall jst interested in minecraft
#83 [01:39] <Scott> desktops are so 2005
#84 [01:40] <clarjon1> pft.
#85 [01:40] <Scott> Get a notebook with an external GPU
#86 [01:41] <Scott> or an internal GPU.
#87 [01:41] <Scott> My GPU is rarely ever turned on lol
#88 [01:42] <weirdo> but as is i cannot do anything 2 help it run smoother
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#91 [01:44] <weirdo> ?
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#93 [01:56] <Xenic> Im looking for a few bukkit mods for minecraft that do particular things was wondering if anyone knew if such mods exsist
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#95 [01:57] <Xenic> Basically what Im looking for is 1. a mod that replants trees using the fallen sapplings and 2. a way to have a map regenerate a new seed every so many days to be used as a mining map
#96 [01:58] <clarjon1> Xenic: Lemme know if you find #2
#97 [01:59] <Xenic> will do
#98 [01:59] <clarjon1> Cuz that would be epic :D
#99 [01:59] <westjgames> I cant get Minecraft to launch in Ubuntu - it says it's not marked as executable...
#100 [01:59] <westjgames> Im using OpenJDK6
#101 [01:59] <clarjon1> don't use openjdk
#102 [01:59] <clarjon1> use Oracle's JDK
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#104 [01:59] <westjgames> Oh great
#105 [01:59] <lemon-rev> west youll have to look it up your good enough to have internet on tat machine
#106 [01:59] <Kealper> right click file > properties > mark as executable
#107 [01:59] <Xenic> how do we register names on this irc server?
#108 [01:59] <Kealper> ??> Xenic irc
#109 [01:59] <VoxelHead> Xenic: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#110 [01:59] <VoxelHead> Xenic: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#111 [01:59] <westjgames> How do I get Oracle's JDK in Ubuntu?
#112 [02:00] <Kealper> westjgames: OpenJDK isn't the problem
#113 [02:00] <westjgames> :/
#114 [02:00] <Xenic> Lol
#115 [02:00] <Kealper> westjgames: you've just got to tell Ubuntu that you know where that file came from and that it's safe to run as a program
#116 [02:00] <westjgames> And how to do that?
#117 [02:00] <Kealper> westjgames: right click the jar file, go in to properties, it'll be somewhere in there about marking it as executable
#118 [02:00] <westjgames> kk ty
#119 [02:01] <Kealper> i can't get into specifics, as i haven't used Ubuntu in a while
#120 [02:01] <westjgames> oho YAY it works now
#121 [02:01] <westjgames> Fluttershy hugs for you
#122 [02:01] <Kealper> lol
#123 [02:02] <westjgames> Or cupcakes, your choice
#124 [02:02] <westjgames> Is it just me, or does everything download faster in Linux than Windows
#125 [02:02] <Kealper> probably just you
#126 [02:03] <Kealper> or you had a really crappy firewall running under Windows
#127 [02:03] <clarjon1> or you had a botnet infection
#128 [02:03] <Kealper> ^
#129 [02:03] <westjgames> Because ive noticed that DLding Minecraft bins from windows goes at 120kb/s, when Ubuntu it was 160kb/s
#130 [02:03] <xales> Window's netcode might really be just that bad
#131 [02:03] <xales> no, not likely
#132 [02:03] <xales> probably a firewall or similar
#133 [02:03] <xales> as mentioned
#134 [02:03] <westjgames> ok
#135 [02:04] <Kealper> although Windows' netcode is horribad, i don't think it's THAT bad rofl
#136 [02:04] <westjgames> Oh im sure it is ;)
#137 [02:04] <xales> well, 40KB/s isn't a big change, could just be network utilization coincidence
#138 [02:04] <Kealper> ^
#139 [02:04] <xales> if it was like, 100+KB/s, yeah, that's a problem
#140 [02:04] <xales> and regular, to more than one server
#141 [02:04] <Xenic> ok now that is resolved any ideas on my questions?
#142 [02:05] <xales> if you are looking for bukkit stuff, ask in #bukkit
#143 [02:05] <xales> this isn't the channel for third-party stuff, especially not us finding things for you
#144 [02:05] <Xenic> ugh
#145 [02:05] <Xenic> it was a general question but sure
#146 [02:05] <Xenic> it was a general question but sure
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#148 [02:06] <xales> I hate people like that.
#149 [02:06] <xales> :<
#150 [02:06] <Kealper> :<
#151 [02:06] <xales> IM ENTITLED TO DEMAND STUFF
#152 [02:06] <xales> the Minecraft community:
#153 [02:06] <xales> a community of entitlement
#154 [02:06] <Kealper> .cmd add :< print("PRIVMSG $chan ::<" & @CRLF)
#155 [02:06] <Kealper> bah
#156 [02:06] <Kealper> !load mod_exec
#157 [02:06] <Kealper> .cmd add :< print("PRIVMSG $chan ::<" & @CRLF)
#158 [02:06] <xales> ah, Kealper, by the way, if you want to do some hands-on python learning...
#159 [02:07] <Kealper> :<
#160 [02:07] <xales> I'm writing a networking/IRC library and will be writing a bot iwth it
#161 [02:07] <xales> it will also have an http server built in, same process, fully async
#162 [02:07] <Kealper> i might like to poke at that code then lol
#163 [02:07] <xales> you would have to help
#164 [02:07] <xales> ._.
#165 [02:07] <xales> err kealper
#166 [02:08] <xales> have you done any real oop before
#167 [02:08] <Kealper> uhh...that might be a tall order lol, Python's syntax is still a bit scary for me...it's like... not like C or AutoIt ._.
#168 [02:08] <Kealper> define real oop?
#169 [02:09] <xales> Kealper: like, design pattern stuff
#170 [02:09] <Kealper> my programming is usually pretty OO-styled in that i write my functions to be highly reusable, i avoid globally declared variables except for when it's necessary, and other generally OO-related things
#171 [02:10] <xales> Kealper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_pattern
#172 [02:11] <Kealper> that page was mostly nonsense to me
#173 [02:12] <Scott> xales!
#174 [02:13] <Scott> The firmware password is GONEEEE
#175 [02:13] <Scott> A tiny .3kb file removed it o:
#176 [02:13] <xales> neat
#177 [02:13] <xales> lol
#178 [02:13] <xales> Kealper: read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_pattern
#179 [02:14] <Scott> yay for friends at apple
#180 [02:14] <Kealper> ok, i understand what that page is saying lol
#181 [02:14] <Kealper> well.. mostly
#182 [02:16] <xales> okay well
#183 [02:16] <xales> you probably want to go skim this
#184 [02:16] <xales> http://docs.python.org/py3k/tutorial/index.html
#185 [02:16] <xales> have fun
#186 [02:16] <xales> I'm going to start working on it tomorrow
#187 [02:16] <Kealper> is that what you'd be using? as in having like... individual objects handling things for like PRIVMSG, NOTICE, etc?
#188 [02:16] <xales> not quite
#189 [02:16] <xales> plugins specify what they want to handle
#190 [02:17] <xales> they subscribe to events
#191 [02:17] <Kealper> oh, that's for sending messages to plugins that request said things?
#192 [02:17] <Kealper> fancy
#193 [02:17] <xales> yeah so a plugin hooks the PRIVMSG hook
#194 [02:17] <xales> and when a PRIVMSG is recieved it gets called
#195 [02:17] <xales> and so on
#196 [02:19] <Kealper> just don't get your hopes up on how much of this i'll actually understand and be able to help with lol... i've used Python only a few times for extremely basic things
#197 [02:19] * Kealper installs Python 3 and looks for a good IDE
#197 [02:20] <Kealper> their IDLE is what kept me away from it...that's the worst editor i've ever used ._.
#198 [02:21] <Kealper> also i looked at what IronPython was the other day...that's kind of intense what it does....
#199 [02:21] <Kealper> it takes Python code and compiles it into JVM bytecode from what i understand D:
#200 [02:23] <Kealper> oh, correction... it isn't JVM bytecode, it's CLR bytecode
#201 [02:23] * lemon-rev mc rc2 is now, got quit button nutty
#201 [02:23] <xales> Kealper: vim
#202 [02:23] <xales> it's the best python IDE
#203 [02:23] <xales> I'm not even joking
#204 [02:23] <Kealper> :o
#205 [02:23] <xales> http://sontek.net/turning-vim-into-a-modern-python-ide
#206 [02:25] <xales> also kealper
#207 [02:25] <Scott> vim ._.
#208 [02:25] <xales> use gvim on windows
#209 [02:25] <Scott> i hate vim
#210 [02:25] <xales> Scott: what do you use....nano?
#211 [02:25] <Scott> burn it with fire.
#212 [02:25] <Scott> YES
#213 [02:25] <Scott> lol
#214 [02:25] <Kealper> yuk
#215 [02:25] <Kealper> nano
#216 [02:25] <Scott> I love nano.
#217 [02:25] <xales> nano is the most...unfeatured...ugly...piece of crap
#218 [02:25] <xales> lol
#219 [02:25] <Scott> It's the best.
#220 [02:25] <xales> yeah uh, vim is stupid by default on some distros
#221 [02:25] <Scott> you have no idea how much i dislike vim
#222 [02:25] <xales> because on some it defaults to vi compatibility mode
#223 [02:26] <xales> so...arrow keys don't even work
#224 [02:26] <Scott> the first thing I install is nano
#225 [02:26] <xales> lol
#226 [02:26] <xales> I have a script that sets up my vim environment
#227 [02:26] <xales> wget secreturl -O- | bash
#228 [02:26] <xales> ;p
#229 [02:26] <Scott> secreturl = xales.xxx/vim.sh
#230 [02:26] <Scott> ye?
#231 [02:26] <Kealper> ^
#232 [02:26] <xales> yes
#233 [02:27] <xales> xales.xxx
#234 [02:27] <xales> Kealper: one of the things taht vim is the best at, without question, is code formatting and hilighting
#235 [02:27] <xales> it's very, very good at that, as well as, for example, autoindenting and resetting indents
#236 [02:27] <Scott> you can register that next month
#237 [02:27] <xales> like for example
#238 [02:28] <xales> the = operator is the "fix indent" thing
#239 [02:28] <xales> if you press == it will fix indenting on that line
#240 [02:28] <xales> gg is the beginning of file mark
#241 [02:28] <Kealper> :o
#242 [02:28] <xales> G is the end of the file mark
#243 [02:28] <Scott> xales.xxx will be a live webcam of inside your pants
#244 [02:28] <xales> so if you enter
#245 [02:28] <xales> gg=G
#246 [02:28] <xales> it fixes indent on the whole file
#247 [02:28] <xales> :p
#248 [02:28] <xales> and for example, to find and replace herp with derp on the next 5 lines!
#249 [02:28] <xales> .,.5s/derp/herp/
#250 [02:28] <xales> . = this line
#251 [02:29] <xales> .5 = 5 lines from this line
#252 [02:29] <Kealper> as in.... "oh darn, my Python script has crappy indentation somewhere" *type in gg=G in command mode* *poof, fixed*?
#253 [02:29] <xales> yes
#254 [02:29] <Kealper> that is amazing
#255 [02:29] <Kealper> lol
#256 [02:29] <xales> it also allows you to do tab magic
#257 [02:29] <xales> like
#258 [02:29] <xales> a tab is saved in the file as 4 characters
#259 [02:29] <xales> but is shown on the screen as 2
#260 [02:29] <xales> and treated by the cursor as 1
#261 [02:29] <xales> lol
#262 [02:30] <Kealper> can't i just like... open a second screen window and use the vim on your server? or is that one not set up all awesome?
#263 [02:31] <xales> not set up
#264 [02:32] <Kealper> oh...darn lol
#265 [02:32] <xales> although
#266 [02:32] <xales> I could set it up if you really wanted
#267 [02:32] <xales> but seriously, install arch on your desktop already
#268 [02:32] <xales> >.>
#269 [02:32] <xales> windows can now do online shrinking of C:
#270 [02:32] <xales> lol
#271 [02:32] <Kealper> but then i can't play RIFT D:
#272 [02:32] <xales> literally
#273 [02:33] <xales> DUAL BOOT
#274 [02:33] <xales> :p
#275 [02:33] <xales> you don't have to touch anything
#276 [02:33] <xales> all you have to do is uncomment the syslinux windows section
#277 [02:33] <xales> then you have a dualboot
#278 [02:33] <xales> after installing arch that is
#279 [02:33] <xales> also, use LVM
#280 [02:33] <xales> that way you can do weird stuff like what I was doing yesterday
#281 [02:35] <Scott> i would like arch if it weren't such a pain to setup
#282 [02:35] <xales> it's not
#283 [02:35] <Scott> I'm using Ubuntu with GNOME-Shell right now.
#284 [02:35] <xales> it doesn't literally do it *for* you
#285 [02:35] <xales> but it's very easy to set up
#286 [02:35] <Scott> I will switch to elementary OS once the next version is released.
#287 [02:35] <Scott> It takes time. I want something that works out of the box.
#288 [02:35] <xales> if you want to do something even remotely complicated with ubuntu
#289 [02:35] <xales> like LVM
#290 [02:35] <xales> or dm-raid
#291 [02:35] <xales> it becomes impossibly complicated
#292 [02:35] <xales> :p
#293 [02:36] <xales> arch has a GUI for it
#294 [02:36] <Scott> no it doesn't? :/
#295 [02:36] <xales> well, ncurses gui, but still
#296 [02:36] <Scott> I routinely setup LVM and dm-raid
#297 [02:36] <xales> can do LUKS, LVM, dm-raid...
#298 [02:36] <xales> Scott: with the ubuntu desktop cd?
#299 [02:36] <xales> :p
#300 [02:36] <Scott> no lol
#301 [02:36] <xales> exactly
#302 [02:36] <xales> but arch will do that for you
#303 [02:36] <xales> I mean, really
#304 [02:36] <Scott> actually you might can
#305 [02:36] <xales> all you do is pacman -S xorg-server windowmanager slim
#306 [02:36] <Scott> i've never tried
#307 [02:37] <xales> set default runlevel to 5
#308 [02:37] <xales> reboot
#309 [02:37] <xales> ???
#310 [02:37] <xales> profit
#311 [02:37] <Scott> there is probably a CLI installer
#312 [02:37] <xales> yeah
#313 [02:37] <xales> cp
#314 [02:37] <xales> oh, random fun thing I found, scott
#315 [02:37] <xales> do you know how to make cp show a progress bar/speed/time to complete? ;d
#316 [02:37] <xales> :D rather
#317 [02:38] <xales> well, you can!
#318 [02:38] <xales> using pv
#319 [02:38] <xales> pv (file) > (destination)
#320 [02:38] <xales> [root@smilodon /]# pv newarch_root.tar.xz > mnt/timecapsule/newarch_root.tar.xz 151MB 0:00:03 [ 38MB/s] [=====================================================================================================================================>] 100%
#321 [02:38] <xales> dumb bot
#322 [02:38] <xales> !unquiet
#323 [02:38] <xales> :|
#324 [02:39] <xales> there is nothing like maxing out gigabit ethernet on a lan
#325 [02:39] <xales> >.>
#326 [02:39] <lukegb> 10Gbit line gogogo
#327 [02:39] <xales> lukegb: no u
#328 [02:40] <xales> lukegb: I found a bukkit crash exploit by the way
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#330 [02:40] <YddEd_MSO> hello?
#331 [02:40] <xales> hi.
#332 [02:40] <YddEd_MSO> can anyone check if my server is running with out hamachi?
#333 [02:40] <Kealper> 38MB/s isn't nearly maxing out gigabit D:
#334 [02:40] <YddEd_MSO> ill give you the IP of the server
#335 [02:41] <Kealper> YddEd_MSO: ok
#336 [02:41] <xales> Kealper: the transfer only took 2 or 3 seconds
#337 [02:41] <xales> not even
#338 [02:41] <YddEd_MSO> see if you can join?
#339 [02:41] <xales> didn't have time to measure faster
#340 [02:41] <YddEd_MSO> Kealper can you try?
#341 [02:41] <xales> what's the IP?
#342 [02:41] <YddEd_MSO> who wants to try?
#343 [02:41] <Kealper> what is the IP?
#344 [02:42] <YddEd_MSO> wait
#345 [02:42] <Chris> !check ip
#346 [02:42] <YddEd_MSO> let me host it
#347 [02:42] <YddEd_MSO> !check ip
#348 [02:42] <YddEd_MSO> not hosting yet
#349 [02:42] <Chris> Replace IP with your ip
#350 [02:42] <Kealper> YddEd_MSO: you're supposted to replace "ip" with the thing's IP, that was an example
#351 [02:43] <YddEd_MSO> !check SFCOM-71C4A782D
#352 [02:43] <xales> that's not an IP
#353 [02:43] <YddEd_MSO> umm
#354 [02:43] <YddEd_MSO> it hosts
#355 [02:43] <YddEd_MSO> it does host
#356 [02:43] <Kealper> isn't an IP
#357 [02:43] <YddEd_MSO> ive seen terria servers have an ip like that
#358 [02:43] <YddEd_MSO> just try it
#359 [02:43] <xales> It's not an IP
#360 [02:43] <YddEd_MSO> JUST TRY IT PLEASE
#361 [02:43] <Kealper> it
#362 [02:43] <xales> It won't work, it's not an IP
#363 [02:43] <Kealper> is not
#364 [02:43] <Kealper> an IP
#365 [02:43] <Kealper> or a hostname
#366 [02:44] <YddEd_MSO> A
#367 [02:44] <YddEd_MSO> R
#368 [02:44] <YddEd_MSO> G
#369 [02:44] * xales kicked YddEd_MSO from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ddEd_MSO :If you are going to ask for help and not listen, then get out.)
#370 [02:44] <rymate1234> lol
#371 [02:44] <rymate1234> fIL
#372 [02:44] <rymate1234> fail for him
#373 [02:44] <xales> that seemed very, very fishy to me
#374 [02:45] <xales> one of the auth stealers again, maybe
#375 [02:45] <rymate1234> that wasn't even an IP addesss
#376 [02:45] <rymate1234> xD
#377 [02:45] <rymate1234> !check 202.124.72.93
#378 [02:45] <lukegb> xales: responsible disclosure ftw
#379 [02:45] <xales> lol
#380 [02:45] <rymate1234> what a surprise
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#382 [02:45] <rymate1234> he faild
#383 [02:45] <Kealper> you're in a channel full of people who eat sleep and breathe computers, i don't mean to sound like a dick but we know more than you, and if we say it isn't something, then it isn't something
#384 [02:45] <YddEd_MSO> !check 202.124.72.93
#385 [02:45] <xales> lukegb: netcat and repeating characters, lots and lots of them
#386 [02:45] <YddEd_MSO> what?
#387 [02:46] <YddEd_MSO> it didnt work?
#388 [02:46] <xales> YddEd_MSO: It didn't work
#389 [02:46] <rymate1234> YddEd_MSO: lrn2portfwd
#390 [02:46] <lukegb> Kealper: eating sleep sounds nice
#391 [02:46] <YddEd_MSO> !check 5.22.146.47
#392 [02:46] <xales> lukegb: perl -e 'print "penis"*99999999' | netcat theserver theport
#393 [02:46] <xales> :p
#394 [02:46] <YddEd_MSO> i cant port forward
#395 [02:46] <xales> lukegb: yay DoS
#396 [02:47] <xales> YddEd_MSO: then you can't host a server that people on the WAN can join
#397 [02:47] <rymate1234> lalw
#398 [02:47] <Kealper> xales: permission to do that to myself via your server?
#399 [02:47] <Kealper> lol
#400 [02:47] <YddEd_MSO> i cant port forward and dont want to have an hamachi server
#401 [02:47] <rymate1234> YddEd_MSO: get cheap server hosting? :)
#402 [02:47] <xales> Kealper: I'd rather not
#403 [02:47] <YddEd_MSO> im just a little kid
#404 [02:47] <xales> YddEd_MSO: If you can't port forward, then you can't run a server
#405 [02:47] <YddEd_MSO> i dont wanna pay money just to host a server
#406 [02:47] <xales> running a server isn't something to take for granted
#407 [02:47] <lukegb> xales: does that work with vanilla?
#408 [02:47] <xales> ._.
#409 [02:47] <xales> lukegb: no idea, don't care to test
#410 [02:48] <YddEd_MSO> i would rather use hamachi until i get a router
#411 [02:48] <xales> uhh
#412 [02:48] <rymate1234> gotta go kbaithen
#413 [02:48] <xales> you're not connected to the internet if you aren't behind a router
#414 [02:48] <xales> derp
#415 [02:48] <YddEd_MSO> i have a pocket wifi
#416 [02:48] <xales> uh, okay
#417 [02:48] <xales> if it's wifi, then there's still a router
#418 [02:48] <YddEd_MSO> POCKET wifi
#419 [02:48] <xales> if it's wimax or similar, then there is still a router
#420 [02:48] <xales> you just don't own it
#421 [02:48] <YddEd_MSO> are you in australia?
#422 [02:48] <lukegb> xales: I think he's got one of those mini wifi-3g things...
#423 [02:48] <lukegb> D:
#424 [02:49] <xales> uh, no
#425 [02:49] <xales> lukegb: yes indeed
#426 [02:49] <YddEd_MSO> its the wifi 3g things ok?
#427 [02:49] <xales> wimax is the same thing
#428 [02:49] <lukegb> Hosting a minecraft server over a NAT which you can't change the settings of?
#429 [02:49] <xales> it is absolutely not possible under any circimstances to host a minecraft server off of those
#430 [02:49] <YddEd_MSO> and i cant port forward with them right?
#431 [02:49] <YddEd_MSO> well its possible with hamachi
#432 [02:49] <xales> even if you could, the "server" you would "run" would probably not even be able to serve one player
#433 [02:50] <YddEd_MSO> i use hamachi for now
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#435 [02:50] <xales> okay, have fun with that
#436 [02:50] <YddEd_MSO> until i get a router that i can ACTUALLY port forward with
#437 [02:51] <YddEd_MSO> so i cant port forward with those 3g pocket wifis' right?
#438 [02:51] <xales> once again, you cannot port forward neither could you host a functional server
#439 [02:52] <YddEd_MSO> cause on portforward.com for the Huawei section it got port forward
#440 [02:52] <YddEd_MSO> for the minecraft
#441 [02:52] <xales> I am not going to say it again
#442 [02:52] <xales> YOU CANNOT RUN A MINECRAFT SERVER ON A 3G CONNECTION
#443 [02:52] <xales> END OF STORY
#444 [02:52] <clarjon1> ewwww
#445 [02:52] <YddEd_MSO> cant my external ip work?
#446 [02:52] <xales> Again, NO
#447 [02:52] <clarjon1> no ydd
#448 [02:52] <clarjon1> like
#449 [02:52] <xales> I don't undersatnd what isn't clear
#450 [02:53] <xales> you CAN NOT DO IT
#451 [02:53] <xales> IT IS NOT POSSIBLE
#452 [02:53] <lukegb> You're makimg him cry.
#453 [02:53] <YddEd_MSO> it works on hamachi
#454 [02:53] <clarjon1> ohgodhamachi
#455 [02:53] <xales> ;hamachi
#456 [02:53] <clarjon1> YddEd_MSO: You are a bad, bad person.
#457 [02:53] <xales> Kealper: how to factoid
#458 [02:53] <YddEd_MSO> and yes, i couldve cried
#459 [02:53] <clarjon1> "Hamachi"
#460 [02:53] <clarjon1> ughhh
#461 [02:53] <Kealper> ?? hamachi
#462 [02:53] <Kealper> oh, derp
#463 [02:53] <Kealper> ?? fubar/hamachi
#464 [02:53] <YddEd_MSO> it has to be
#465 [02:53] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#466 [02:54] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#467 [02:54] <YddEd_MSO> i already saw that writing
#468 [02:54] <xales> Kealper: oh, wug's bot hasn't taken over entirely
#469 [02:54] <xales> YddEd_MSO: yes, well, if you are going to use hamachi, then we can't help you
#470 [02:54] <YddEd_MSO> VPN?
#471 [02:54] <clarjon1> Virtual Private Network
#472 [02:54] <xales> yes, VPN
#473 [02:54] <YddEd_MSO> and i have to pay for it?
#474 [02:55] <xales> in this case, there is absolutely no way you could host a functional server
#475 [02:55] <YddEd_MSO> cause ive heard of that before
#476 [02:55] <YddEd_MSO> someone told me to use that
#477 [02:55] <xales> hamachi, VPN, whatever
#478 [02:55] <xales> your connection is _too slow_
#479 [02:55] <YddEd_MSO> umm
#480 [02:55] <clarjon1> 3G is slow, man.
#481 [02:55] <YddEd_MSO> ok...
#482 [02:55] <clarjon1> the upload speeds are horrible
#483 [02:55] <YddEd_MSO> sooooo
#484 [02:55] <xales> I had 3G DSL when I was 7
#485 [02:55] <clarjon1> you need something with fast upload speeds
#486 [02:55] <xales> ._.
#487 [02:55] <YddEd_MSO> im gonna have to get a new router QUICK
#488 [02:55] <YddEd_MSO> O.o
#489 [02:55] <xales> New internet connection
#490 [02:56] <YddEd_MSO> isnt it a new router?
#491 [02:56] <clarjon1> no
#492 [02:56] <xales> no, a new connection
#493 [02:56] <clarjon1> no no
#494 [02:56] <clarjon1> That's like saying
#495 [02:56] <clarjon1> you need a new key made for your car
#496 [02:56] <xales> you MUST have a cable or fibre connection
#497 [02:56] <YddEd_MSO> oh right
#498 [02:56] <clarjon1> because hte gas tank is leaking
#499 [02:56] <lukegb> YddEd_MSO: a 3G connection simply does not have the reliability nor the speed to host a minecraft server.
#500 [02:56] <xales> or you cannot host a functional server.
#501 [02:56] <YddEd_MSO> a new ISP
#502 [02:56] <YddEd_MSO> i get it
#503 [02:56] <xales> also, if you don't have experience in running a server, really, don't run one
#504 [02:56] <clarjon1> there we go :)
#505 [02:56] <xales> just find another one to play on
#506 [02:57] <clarjon1> xales: how is he supposed to get experience running one if he doesn't try? lol
#507 [02:57] <YddEd_MSO> ive been tring to get my friend to tell me
#508 [02:57] <xales> clarjon1: college
#509 [02:57] <YddEd_MSO> he hosts one
#510 [02:57] <xales> find a public one
#511 [02:57] <xales> ...
#512 [02:57] <YddEd_MSO> thats kind of laggy
#513 [02:57] <xales> lol
#514 [02:57] <xales> anyway
#515 [02:57] <YddEd_MSO> and yeah how am i supposed to get experiance if i dont try?
#516 [02:57] <xales> college
#517 [02:57] <xales> or having someone teach you
#518 [02:58] <YddEd_MSO> does it REALLY show you how to host one?>
#519 [02:58] <xales> in an environment where you can actually host a server, where server would actually be used...
#520 [02:58] <xales> yeah
#521 [02:58] <lukegb> YddEd_MSO: if you're going to do it, do it properly. Please.
#522 [02:58] <YddEd_MSO> looks like moving houses (unit)
#523 [02:58] <xales> lukegb: you mean like writing a minecraft server extension system in java
#524 [02:58] <xales> :p
#525 [02:58] <YddEd_MSO> i just came to australia last year
#526 [02:58] <YddEd_MSO> so i didnt know 3G was slow
#527 [02:58] <xales> I hate to think what minecraft would be today if it was written using straight up SDL
#528 [02:58] <xales> uhh
#529 [02:59] <xales> 3G isn't specific to australia...
#530 [02:59] <YddEd_MSO> and had to find an ISP quick
#531 [02:59] <YddEd_MSO> i know
#532 [02:59] <xales> my phone has a 3G data connection
#533 [02:59] <xales> derp
#534 [02:59] <YddEd_MSO> i came from NZ
#535 [02:59] <YddEd_MSO> never heard of it in NZ
#536 [02:59] <xales> actually, my phone has a *4G* data connection
#537 [02:59] <lukegb> I have 9G.
#538 [02:59] <Kealper> my phone is only 3G :<
#539 [02:59] <YddEd_MSO> is 4G alright?
#540 [02:59] <lukegb> Obviously.
#541 [02:59] <xales> no
#542 [02:59] <xales> again
#543 [02:59] <xales> CABLE OR FIBRE
#544 [02:59] <YddEd_MSO> ok ok ok
#545 [02:59] <xales> 3G is designed for cellphones
#546 [02:59] <xales> not servers
#547 [02:59] <xales> for fucks sake
#548 [02:59] <YddEd_MSO> cable or WHAT?
#549 [03:00] <YddEd_MSO> let me search it up
#550 [03:00] <xales> fibre optic connection
#551 [03:00] <xales> ._.
#552 [03:00] <xales> here's a better answer
#553 [03:00] <xales> wait until you're older to try to do things like run a server, and until you understand the underlying concepts somewhat
#554 [03:00] <YddEd_MSO> optus any good?
#555 [03:01] <xales> all australian ISPs suck, I have no idea
#556 [03:01] <YddEd_MSO> WTF!?
#557 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> Australian ISPs do suck. Especially ADSL2+ over there
#558 [03:01] <YddEd_MSO> what about the NZ ISP?
#559 [03:01] <xales> YddEd_MSO: Internode is the best isp
#560 [03:01] <YddEd_MSO> internode
#561 [03:01] <Nudge> Yeah all Aussie ISP do suck with their shitty connections, I know I live there
#562 [03:01] <YddEd_MSO> whats that in?
#563 [03:01] <YddEd_MSO> internode
#564 [03:01] <Kealper> Nudge: i feel sorry for you lol
#565 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> !wiki internode
#566 [03:02] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internode
#567 [03:02] <GreyBot> Internode may refer to:
#568 [03:02] <Nudge> Lol
#569 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> !wiki internode ISP
#570 [03:02] <xales> YddEd_MSO: and you need broadband
#571 [03:02] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internode_%28ISP%29
#572 [03:02] <xales> NOT 3G
#573 [03:02] <GreyBot> Internode, founded on 8 May 1991 by Managing Director Simon Hackett, is an Australian Internet Service Provider (ISP). The company focuses primarily on ADSL-based Internet access, but also provides business-class access (Internode Business Connect), web hosting, co-location, Voice over IP, and a variety of related services.
#574 [03:02] <YddEd_MSO> isnt a optus an brtoadband?
#575 [03:02] <YddEd_MSO> cause i had broadband
#576 [03:03] <YddEd_MSO> and is VONDAFONE any good?
#577 [03:03] <YddEd_MSO> cause i used to have that
#578 [03:03] <YddEd_MSO> (broadband)
#579 [03:03] <YddEd_MSO> i thinkl
#580 [03:03] <xales> none of us live in australia, and none of us are familiar with the ISPs
#581 [03:03] <Nudge> Vodafone suck balls
#582 [03:03] <xales> a friend of mine told me that internode was by far the best ISP
#583 [03:03] <YddEd_MSO> ok
#584 [03:03] <xales> but if you want to change ISPs, you will have to do research, and ask your parents
#585 [03:03] <YddEd_MSO> let me see in what countries
#586 [03:03] <xales> we can't do it for you, especially given that you aren't going to be the one footing the bill for it
#587 [03:04] <Nudge> Internode suck too, they all suck cause Telstra owns the backbone and its shit
#588 [03:04] <YddEd_MSO> it will take one complete year to move units/houses
#589 [03:04] <YddEd_MSO> INTERNODE IS IN AUSTRALIA
#590 [03:04] <YddEd_MSO> IT IS AN AUSTRALIAN ISP
#591 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> Easy on the caps there fella.
#592 [03:05] <YddEd_MSO> Internode is based in Adelaide, South Australia (SA). The company's services are available nationwide through many means including: ADSL (using DSLAM ports provided by Telstra Wholesale) ADSL2+ rollout nationwide (still in progress) Wireless hotspots in Adelaide A SA regional telecommunications backbone based on microwave/wireless and ADSL2+
#593 [03:05] <Kealper> after doing some research
#594 [03:05] <YddEd_MSO> Telstra
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#596 [03:05] <Nudge> Its all Telstra
#597 [03:05] <Kealper> YddEd_MSO: you have 6GB of monthly data transfer on your internet that you have right now
#598 [03:05] <YddEd_MSO> all ISP's are telstra?
#599 [03:05] <YddEd_MSO> yep
#600 [03:05] <xales> telstra owns the backbone
#601 [03:06] <YddEd_MSO> i think it was 12 gb
#602 [03:06] <Kealper> YddEd_MSO: if you host a Minecraft server, and a few people play on it...it isn't going to be hard to go over 6GB in a month
#603 [03:06] <Nudge> All ISPs use Telstra infrastructure
#604 [03:06] <YddEd_MSO> it is 10GB
#605 [03:06] <Kealper> YddEd_MSO: as Minecraft servers use a lot of bandwidth
#606 [03:06] <Nudge> Even Optus resells Telstra adsl
#607 [03:06] <YddEd_MSO> i have a 10GB plan
#608 [03:06] <xales> YddEd_MSO: let me give you the bottom line
#609 [03:06] <xales> you cannot host a minecraft server on your current connection
#610 [03:07] <xales> if you want to switch ISPs, you have to do research and talk to your parents
#611 [03:07] <xales> we will do neither for you
#612 [03:07] <YddEd_MSO> i know but i have a 10GB plan
#613 [03:07] <xales> ....
#614 [03:07] <xales> it doesn't matter
#615 [03:07] <Nudge> 10gig is nothin
#616 [03:07] <YddEd_MSO> ummm
#617 [03:07] <YddEd_MSO> ok
#618 [03:07] <xales> you CAN NOT host a minecraft server on your current connection
#619 [03:07] <Nudge> I have 500 gig and still not enough
#620 [03:07] <YddEd_MSO> i gotta get a new laptop for hosting anyways
#621 [03:07] <YddEd_MSO> :D
#622 [03:07] <xales> .___.
#623 [03:07] <Nudge> Roflmao
#624 [03:08] <YddEd_MSO> my local disk C only has 15 gb when full
#625 [03:08] <xales> ...
#626 [03:08] <YddEd_MSO> this guy fixed my damn computer
#627 [03:08] <Kealper> and it seems that the max speed they give is 7.2mbit down 5.7mbit up...but that's probably speeds measured while standing in the RF-danger-zone of the cell tower lol
#628 [03:08] <Nudge> O.O
#629 [03:08] <YddEd_MSO> and it only got 15 gb now
#630 [03:08] <Nudge> Lol Kealper
#631 [03:08] <Kealper> YddEd_MSO: begone with you, vile creature
#632 [03:08] <YddEd_MSO> my netbook
#633 [03:09] <YddEd_MSO> looks like ill try getting Internode?
#634 [03:09] <YddEd_MSO> should i?
#635 [03:09] <xales> ...
#636 [03:09] <xales> that is up to you and your family, as I have said before
#637 [03:09] <xales> I am not oging to repeat myself again
#638 [03:09] <YddEd_MSO> do you think it is good?
#639 [03:09] <Nudge> I should upgrade my iPad to 2 for hosting
#640 [03:09] <YddEd_MSO> well u already said
#641 [03:09] <YddEd_MSO> so
#642 [03:10] <YddEd_MSO> im researching right now
#643 [03:10] * xales kicked YddEd_MSO from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ddEd_MSO :I'm tired of this circular bullshit. You are either trolling, or lack reading comprehension to the point that you are beyond help.)
#644 [03:10] <Kealper> but that Pocket WiFi thing he has seems like it might be kind of neat to have for an on-the-go thing
#645 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> The ip address does trace back to a mobile 3g provider in aus...
#646 [03:11] <Kealper> that's how i found out what he's using
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#648 [03:11] <Kealper> he's got a Pocket WiFi 2 from Vodafone
#649 [03:11] * GreyVulpine just got Skyrim
#649 [03:11] <Nudge> I use 3G when out and about, its ok for general stuff
#650 [03:11] <xales> GreyVulpine: how do you like it?
#651 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> This decribes what I"m feeling right now
#652 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> http://penny-arcade.com/comic
#653 [03:12] <Kealper> i'd never trust 3G as a Minecraft server though....not only because it's dumb, but because my brother has actually tried it lol....and that failed miserably...
#654 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> But really, right now, I'm stuck on one level, because I don't know what this puzzle wants me to do.
#655 [03:13] <Nudge> Lol, I only use it for surfing, anything more than that is nuts, I once tried to play cstrike over it once O.O
#656 [03:14] <xales> GreyVulpine: an interesting thing: in Oblivion, I rarely picked up random stuff or even looked for it
#657 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> Have never played an Elder scrolls game before. This one's a lot of walking. Combat's okay. More walking.
#658 [03:14] <xales> but it seems like a natural thing in this one :o
#659 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> Lockpicking's not explained at all.
#660 [03:14] <xales> and yeah, there's a lot of walking in them the first time you go places
#661 [03:14] <xales> then you can fast-travel
#662 [03:14] <xales> and..lock picking had a tutorial popup thing for me
#663 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> Use mouse to move lockpick around, A and D to rotate.
#664 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> But what are you actually looking for when you move the lockpick, it never says.
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#666 [03:15] <xales> oh, nothing
#667 [03:16] <xales> just trial and error
#668 [03:16] <xales> :\
#669 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> Oh.. okay..
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#678 [03:35] <Kealper> i think i just made windows telnet go full-retard while trying to use it as a surrogate netcat
#679 [03:36] <Kealper> it doesn't respond to ^c and it doesn't respond to it's own escape char, ^]
#680 [03:37] <xales> Kealper: troll is in #mc now
#681 [03:38] <Kealper> rofl
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#683 [03:44] <whidgle> i need some help setting up my admin, didnt get to do it the same time as purchase of server so i do not know how to get back to clanforge
#684 [03:45] <xales> This channel is for general Minecraft support; you will need to contact whatever company you purchased a server from and ask them for help with their stuff
#685 [03:45] <whidgle> oh sorry thanks
#686 [03:47] <xales> derp?
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#688 [03:49] <westjgames> I am having issues with Minecraft. As soon as I try to start a game, it crashes
#689 [03:50] <westjgames> I dont get anywhere enough to see anything, making me suspect OpenGL issues
#690 [03:50] <westjgames> Wat do?
#691 [03:50] <westjgames> Main menu is fine, though
#692 [03:51] <westjgames> Im running OpenJDK 6 on Ubuntu x86 11.10
#693 [03:51] <westjgames> Noone is going to help?
#694 [03:52] <xales> gotta be a bit more patient >.>
#695 [03:52] <westjgames> I have NEVER been on #Minecrafthelp and had COMPLETE silence
#696 [03:52] <xales> ?? java/linux/ubuntu
#697 [03:52] <VoxelHead> java/linux/ubuntu: To install the Oracle JRE environment in recent editions of Ubuntu, follow the guide here:
#698 [03:52] <VoxelHead> java/linux/ubuntu: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/how-to-install-java-jre-and-java-plugin.html
#699 [03:53] <xales> that...might help
#700 [03:53] <xales> could also be a GPU driver issue
#701 [03:53] <westjgames> reaches for coffee, footrest and a big old box of patience
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#703 [03:57] <westjgames> Already run out of coffee
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#717 [05:57] <westjgames> Back again, I got Sun Java 6 21 installed
#718 [05:57] <westjgames> but the same issues are happening
#719 [05:57] <westjgames> I cant get into actual gamemplay
#720 [05:58] <westjgames> I tested my OpenGL drivers, they all work 100%
#721 [05:58] <Carltron> Does anyone know whats up with the sun and moon textures in the new 1.9.6
#722 [05:58] <westjgames> I then tested Minecraft in WINE using Windows binaries, and it worked ok
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#724 [06:00] <westjgames> Can anyone tell me how to get Minecraft to work proerly and natively in Ubuntu?
#725 [06:01] <westjgames> WINE is a poor substitute
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#727 [06:09] <Chris> Westjgames, use the jar files with java?
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#731 [06:18] <Titiy94> salut :p !
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#743 [07:20] <AllThatRaymains> I seem to have an issue downloading the game properly. I can get the download file and get as far as the login page, however, when I log in, it black screens and closes. There is also an error report that apears in the folder about java. I looked in the game folder and saw that the only folder is one named bin with files inside but thats about it.
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#749 [07:36] <lottie> hey, having problems setting up my server :/ i have downloaded files and started it goin, forwarded the ports. i can get on bt my friends cant. anyideas on how to fix?
#750 [07:37] <lottie> oh and im also using hamatchi
#751 [07:38] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> why?
#752 [07:39] <lottie> i was told to xD im a vomplete noob xD
#753 [07:39] <lottie> complete*
#754 [07:39] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> ah
#755 [07:39] <lottie> haha
#756 [07:39] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> i failed to even get hamachi working for me the first try so i gave up, didnt need it anyhow
#757 [07:39] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> figgure its silly to add so much more room for problems
#758 [07:40] <Aratsi> let's see if i've got this
#759 [07:40] <Aratsi> ?? fubar/hamachi
#760 [07:40] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#761 [07:40] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#762 [07:40] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> lol nice
#763 [07:41] <lottie> erm ok so with out hamatchi, anyideas what i could be doin wrong or how to fix?
#764 [07:42] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> i think there is a bot command in here to check if a minecraft server is running
#765 [07:42] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> dont know it myself
#766 [07:43] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> if you give your ip/port mabey someone would feed that to the bot for you
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#768 [07:46] <lottie> i used simpleportforwarding to see if i havd done it right. all the details were correct but it would not connect :/
#769 [07:47] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> you forwarded 25565?
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#771 [07:47] <lottie> yup
#772 [07:47] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> does the servers black window say anything when they try to connect?
#773 [07:48] <lottie> black window?
#774 [07:48] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> every minecraft server i ran alwase had a cmd window
#775 [07:49] <lottie> i run the server thing i downloaded from minecraft.net it white. is that what you ment? if not noob it up for me lol
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#777 [07:50] <lottie> i tried to do a .bat file to run it but it would only flash
#778 [07:50] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> i noticed they made a gui for it now but mine still has the black window that openes up too, guess it doesnt for everyone
#779 [07:51] <Aratsi> lottie: have you read the tutorial for setting up a server on minecraftwiki.net?
#780 [07:51] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> the window should have the servers txt output to it though i think, so if they failed to authenticate it sho0uld say on that gui
#781 [07:51] <lottie> yea iv read about 20 done exactly as it says but it dosnt work for me :(
#782 [07:52] <lottie> iv checked firewall etc n there all fine shouldnt be that
#783 [07:53] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> way to test is click play offline on your game and connect to your server via direct connect localhost and it should kick you off the server for not being authed, and it will say on that gui
#784 [07:53] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> that'll atleast narrow it down when they try to connect if you see any messages like that on that gui
#785 [07:53] <lottie> okie
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#787 [07:54] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> have you forwarded ports for other things before?
#788 [07:54] <lottie> nope
#789 [07:54] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> hmm this could be where the problem is then
#790 [07:54] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> what kind of router do you have?
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#792 [07:55] <lottie> i was on my server earlyer but friends cant connect do i still need to try offline?
#793 [07:55] <lottie> i have sagemcom sky router
#794 [07:55] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> i only suggested you try to connect with your client after clicking "play offline" because it was just to test if you can see any server output on your gui thing
#795 [07:56] <lottie> sagemcom f@st2304 <-- my router
#796 [07:57] <self_slaughter> did notch delete the sun in rc2 to get back at people complaing about the whole round/square thing?
#797 [07:57] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> i bet he did (weakling)
#798 [07:57] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> i liked the new sun/moon
#799 [07:58] <Aratsi> the moon was there in rc2 last night at least (15 hours ago)
#800 [07:59] <self_slaughter> oh nevermind lmao
#801 [07:59] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> lottie are you using dhcp on your LAN?
#802 [07:59] <lottie> erm what
#803 [07:59] <lottie> xD
#804 [07:59] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> i take that as a yes
#805 [07:59] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> are you on a desktop that doesnt move?
#806 [08:00] <lottie> im on a laptop
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#808 [08:00] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> then you prolly want to keep it set on dhcp..
#809 [08:00] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> hmm lemme see if that router has a dhcp addy reservation
#810 [08:00] <lottie> im so confused :(
#811 [08:01] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> looks like it does
#812 [08:02] <lottie> ok so what does that mean?
#813 [08:02] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> well without being able to give you screenshots of a step by step guide i can atleast say before this works, you will need to add a "dhcp address reservation" for your mac address of your laptop, usualy a router lets you see a list of connected devices and add a address reservation on the wifi settings, this is so that you have the same IP everytime, then when you add a custom security service for minecr
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#815 [08:04] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> otherwise everytime you turn on your laptop you might get a lan ip like 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.101 192.168.102 everytime someone else connects first
#816 [08:05] <lottie> ok il try set that up then
#817 [08:05] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> thats a must have for any pc that runs a server of any kind
#818 [08:08] <lottie> does it matter im the onlyone that connects to this wireless and i only have a laptop no pc
#819 [08:10] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> even then its possible you might get a different ip, sometimes turning off your wifi device and turning it back on in a short timeframe can cause a different ip
#820 [08:10] <lottie> ok
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#822 [08:12] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> if all else fails you can still set up the remote administration port on the router and let someone you trust and knowledgable to fix the router for you
#823 [08:12] <lottie> cant find anything that will let me do a dhcp adress reservation thing :/
#824 [08:12] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> hmm hold on
#825 [08:13] <lottie> im on the wireless station thing and its showing me my devices bt thats it
#826 [08:14] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> i cant find anything on google about it other than a guy saying "I've set the IP range, and address reservations, turned my server ..." so that just told me its possible
#827 [08:14] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> so i cant help
#828 [08:15] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> you could still set up your laptop to use a static ip temporarily while you host
#829 [08:15] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> plenty of guides on that
#830 [08:17] <lottie> ok thankyou :)
#831 [08:17] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> tip: next time you get a router get a linksys/netgear or something brand name lol, makes it alot easier to help set up
#832 [08:18] <lottie> haha had netgear b4 bt sky made me use this 1 :(
#833 [08:18] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> every isp does that
#834 [08:18] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> they make you pay 2x more for a 2 year older/crappier device
#835 [08:18] <lottie> yup :/
#836 [08:19] <lottie> ok im go try fix this stupid thing
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#838 [08:25] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> i guess i shouldnt say "make you pay" since you dont need to for my isp
#839 [08:26] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> and a friends
#840 [08:26] <Gobblox_ChickenScientist> you can alwase say "shove your crappy router" and they will
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#847 [09:02] <GoodThoughts> Hey all. Good morning!
#848 [09:03] <GoodThoughts> I could use a little help if you don't mind. I'm trying to buy a laptop that will run Minecraft very well. I did not figure the hardware specs needed to be extremely high though. How high do I really need to go? The improved weapons mod is currently on the desktop I'm using.
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#876 [10:42] <frogonia> can someone help me?
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#879 [10:45] <cornelius> What can I do if I lost my email and password? I have only purchase confirmation code and login?
#880 [10:46] <clarjon1> cornelius: If you get in touch with Mojang support, they should be able to help you out with that
#881 [10:46] <clarjon1> unfortunately, due to us just being volunteers, we have no access to account or payment options :)
#882 [10:47] <cornelius> how can I contact with mojang?
#883 [10:48] <clarjon1> ?? support
#884 [10:48] <VoxelHead> support: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
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#886 [10:48] <clarjon1> Best of luck, cornelius :)
#887 [10:49] <cornelius> thx for help, cya
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#905 [11:58] <busymother> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+Netbook+/+Intel%26%23174%3B+Atom%26%23153%3B+Processor+/+10.1%22+Display+/+1GB+Memory+-+Black/1944065.p?id=1218301986255&skuId=1944065 will this run minecraft?
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#909 [12:01] <Morrolan> That looks like one hell of a ripoff to me, busymother.
#910 [12:01] <Morrolan> Though, long time since I bought a laptop.
#911 [12:03] <Morrolan> And I wouldn't be too sure whether it'll run. CPU, RAM and the video card all are far below what I'd recommend for fluid gameplay.
#912 [12:03] <Morrolan> whether it'll run Minecraft.*
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#921 [12:16] <Litti> Hi. Question: I purchased the game an hour before but when i want to login with the .exe, "User not Premium" appears...
#922 [12:17] <Tanjoodo> Litti: Give it some time.
#923 [12:17] <Tanjoodo> Purchases are known to be delayed even up to 48 hours.
#924 [12:18] <Tanjoodo> Hopefully, the purchase will be complete in about 2-3 hours.
#925 [12:19] <Litti> Yes the problem is that when I purchased the game there was first a message that an error occured but then a text came that it has sucesfully purchased.
#926 [12:20] <Litti> Do you geht e-mail notification of something noramlly?
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#928 [12:20] <Yellowchopsticks> did world generation change between pre5 and rc2?
#929 [12:20] <xales> Litti: If you got an error, then the payment was *not* successful
#930 [12:21] <Litti> but then a text came that it has sucesfully purchased.
#931 [12:22] <xales> It doesn't matter. If you got an error, then it did not succeed.
#932 [12:22] <xales> If in doubt, check with your bank. You will not have been charged.
#933 [12:24] <Litti> ok thx i will wait until tomorrow just in case
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#935 [12:26] <xales> ..or you could just call your bank
#936 [12:26] <xales> derp.
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#939 [12:29] <VideoBIT> Hi guys! I have a problem. Minecraft doesn't work. I can't run it. Can you help me?
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#941 [12:31] <VideoBIT> Its version is 1.8.1
#942 [12:31] <xales> VideoBIT: What happens when you try to run it?
#943 [12:31] <VideoBIT> xales: Absolutely nothing.
#944 [12:32] <xales> Are you using the downloaded client?
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#946 [12:33] <VideoBIT> Yes. And I tried to play in the browser.
#947 [12:33] <xales> hmm, I'm trying to remember what causes the do-nothing problem
#948 [12:33] <xales> first of all, try installing the latest version of Java
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#951 [12:37] <VideoBIT> xales: I have the latest version of Java.
#952 [12:38] <xales> VideoBIT: Does your Windows username have any non-alphanumeric characters in it, like an '!'?
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#954 [12:40] <VideoBIT> xales: No. I just tried to run Minecraft from .jar file. It works but have some lags. Moreover, I can't write in the name fields e.g. server IP/name, new world name, etc.
#955 [12:40] <xales> VideoBIT: What OS are you using?
#956 [12:41] <VideoBIT> xales: Win7 HB x64
#957 [12:41] <lukegb> Home Basic? Hmm :P
#958 [12:42] <xales> VideoBIT: Try completely removing and re-installing Java
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#960 [12:43] <VideoBIT> xales: ok. Just want to say, that earlier versions worked perfect.
#961 [12:44] <VideoBIT> And I hadn't such problems.
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#963 [12:44] <sammyismc> Hellow?
#964 [12:45] <sammyismc> ...
#965 [12:45] <sammyismc> When I trie to open minecraft it says:
#966 [12:45] <Tanjoodo> Ask.
#967 [12:45] <sammyismc> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 14/11/11 16:23 Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.8.1 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java:
#968 [12:45] <sammyismc> I ve tried to fix it but i cant
#969 [12:46] <Thrae> ??> sammyismc win/dxdiag
#970 [12:46] <VoxelHead> sammyismc: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#971 [12:46] <VoxelHead> sammyismc: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#973 [12:46] <sammyismc> kk
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#975 [12:48] <Yellowchopsticks> did world generation change between pre5 and rc2?
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#977 [12:50] <sammyismc> http://pastebin.com/RWjjnSc6
#978 [12:51] <sammyismc> I hope this can help
#979 [12:52] <sammyismc> :3
#980 [12:52] <Thrae> sammyismc: Well you don't have a video card, one sec...
#981 [12:52] <sammyismc> o.e
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#984 [12:57] <sammyismc> waiting...
#985 [12:58] <Thrae> sammyismc: Download this update for your CPU-based "Media Accelerator" (Intel GMA 950) -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/16836/a08/winxp_14324.zip and follow these instructions to update the driver -- http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-022355.htm
#986 [13:00] <VideoBIT> xales: done
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#988 [13:06] <sammyismc> wow. this is really confusing
#989 [13:07] <sammyismc> could you help me through it
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#991 [13:07] <sammyismc> im only11
#992 [13:08] <sammyismc> please.
#993 [13:08] <sammyismc> hmm
#994 [13:08] <Thrae> What part are you stuck on?
#995 [13:08] <sammyismc> well i've downloaded the download and
#996 [13:09] <sammyismc> when i trie to update it an error message comes up
#997 [13:09] <sammyismc> it says:
#998 [13:09] <Thrae> Did you use the Driver Update Wizard following the instructions I linked, or did you just run the setup program?
#999 [13:09] <sammyismc> The driver being installed is not validated for this computer ......
#1000 [13:10] <sammyismc> idk
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#1002 [13:10] <Thrae> I don't care if you're 7, you have to READ instructions -- http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-022355.htm
#1003 [13:10] <sammyismc> there is one that says Setup
#1004 [13:11] <Thrae> Follow those instructions and it will install properly.
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#1007 [13:12] <sammyismc> I cant tell whether to do the solution(its not very good) or the work-around
#1008 [13:13] <sammyismc> idk who my pc manufacturer is
#1009 [13:13] <sammyismc> ''To resolve this error, download and install the appropriate graphics driver from your computer manufacturer. Your computer manufacturer recommends the Intel graphics drivers they have customized and validated for your specific computer model. A list of links to computer manufacturer website is given as reference.''
#1010 [13:15] * |Kiikun| pokes Thrae
#1010 [13:15] <|Kiikun|> you missed it being a dell :P
#1011 [13:16] <sammyismc> ...
#1012 [13:16] <sammyismc> i thought it ment a person
#1013 [13:17] <|Kiikun|> sammyismc: that message was from the intel driver installer. dell 'customizes' their drivers so that the regular intel installer wont install.
#1014 [13:18] <sammyismc> kk, i found a site that might help me but im not sure
#1015 [13:18] <|Kiikun|> sammyismc: http://ftp.us.dell.com/video/R153830.EXE download and run that
#1016 [13:19] <sammyismc> kk
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#1018 [13:19] <sammyismc> 2 mins remaining
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#1020 [13:23] <sammyismc> im restarting my pc brb
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#1024 [13:31] <sammyismc> back. what should i do now?
#1025 [13:32] <sammyismc> Hello? :'(
#1026 [13:33] <sammyismc> i restarted my pc
#1027 [13:33] <sammyismc> now what should I do?
#1028 [13:34] <sammyismc> :l
#1029 [13:35] <Thrae> sammyismc: Try Minecraft again.
#1030 [13:35] <sammyismc> i did
#1031 [13:35] <sammyismc> it dodnt work
#1032 [13:35] <sammyismc> didnt"
#1033 [13:35] <sammyismc> :((
#1034 [13:36] <sammyismc> still the same error message
#1035 [13:37] <sammyismc> :(
#1036 [13:37] <Thrae> sammyismc: You'll have to follow the instructions I originally gave you.
#1037 [13:37] <sammyismc> i have
#1038 [13:37] <Thrae> sammyismc: http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-022355.htm
#1039 [13:37] <Thrae> sammyismc: The error messages you were giving me say you weren't.
#1040 [13:38] <sammyismc> i downloaded the file someone gave me
#1041 [13:38] <sammyismc> and finished the wizard
#1042 [13:38] <Thrae> What wizard?
#1043 [13:38] <Thrae> How did you access the wizard?
#1044 [13:38] <sammyismc> it told me to restart so i did
#1045 [13:38] <sammyismc> the instalation wizard
#1046 [13:38] <Thrae> sammyismc, calm down.
#1047 [13:38] <Thrae> Take a deep breath.
#1048 [13:38] <sammyismc> kk?
#1049 [13:39] <sammyismc> lol
#1050 [13:39] <Thrae> Then, download this file -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/16836/a08/winxp_14324.zip
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#1052 [13:39] <Thrae> The follow these instructions -- http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-022355.htm
#1053 [13:39] <sammyismc> kk ow what?
#1054 [13:39] <sammyismc> now"
#1055 [13:39] <sammyismc> i have
#1056 [13:39] <Thrae> No, you have not.
#1057 [13:40] <Thrae> Sorry, I can't help you if you're not willing to follow instructions.
#1058 [13:40] <Monsterback23> whenever i open minecraft beta it just crashes what do i do
#1059 [13:40] <sammyismc> hmm
#1060 [13:40] <sammyismc> ok i will follow them sorry
#1061 [13:40] <sammyismc> can i just explain myself plz :)
#1062 [13:41] <Thrae> Monsterback23: Copy the error report to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#1063 [13:41] <Monsterback23> i cant copy it
#1064 [13:41] <Monsterback23> i cant select the text\
#1065 [13:41] <sammyismc> type it in then
#1066 [13:41] <Monsterback23> btw wheres the error report
#1067 [13:42] <Monsterback23> the top or bottom
#1068 [13:42] <Thrae> Monsterback23: Download this batch file and place it in the same location as Minecraft.exe, then run the batch file -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/DiagnoseMinecraft.bat
#1069 [13:42] <Monsterback23> k thnx
#1070 [13:42] <sammyismc> Thrae: Could i exlain myself plz :)
#1071 [13:43] <Thrae> sammyismc: You don't need my permission; I'm not the only helper here.
#1072 [13:43] <sammyismc> kk
#1073 [13:43] <Iaccidentally> lol, need a bot for that.
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#1075 [13:44] <sammyismc> well, some one (i think it was kiikun) helpfully gave me the driver download from dell and theb I installed it.
#1076 [13:44] <sammyismc> Then"
#1077 [13:45] <sammyismc> It told me to restart my computer
#1078 [13:45] <sammyismc> so i did
#1079 [13:45] <sammyismc> and now I tried to open the setup file from the .zip you gave me
#1080 [13:46] <sammyismc> and it still came up with the error message
#1081 [13:46] <sammyismc> so i dont know where i have gone wrong
#1082 [13:46] <Thrae> sammyismc: 1) Dell often has old graphics drivers. 2) You keep running the Setup program, when the instructions I gave you are for NOT running the Setup program.
#1083 [13:46] <sammyismc> please could you try and help :S
#1084 [13:46] <Thrae> sammyismc: You have to use Windows's Driver Update Wizard. At no time should you be running ANY program.
#1085 [13:47] <Thrae> sammyismc: At no time following the instructions I gave you should you be double-clicking or opening ANY program.
#1086 [13:47] <sammyismc> ok.
#1087 [13:48] <Thrae> sammyismc: You seem to have an attention problem -- instead of stopping and reading the instructions, you're bypassing them and following what you *think* you should be doing.
#1088 [13:48] <Thrae> Even if it takes you 1 hour, you should be reading the instructions I gave you.
#1089 [13:48] <sammyismc> sorry
#1090 [13:48] <sammyismc> i dont really understand them very well
#1091 [13:48] <sammyismc> ive been reading the Solution paragraph
#1092 [13:49] <Thrae> I can't help you unless you tell me what part you don't understand.
#1093 [13:50] <sammyismc> I dont understand which part of the text im supposed to read
#1094 [13:50] <sammyismc> there are different paragraphs. Solution, Work-around,
#1095 [13:50] <sammyismc> Ive been reading the solution part
#1096 [13:50] <Thrae> sammyismc: "For Microsoft Windows XP, go to 'Have disk installation steps for Windows XP'"
#1097 [13:51] <Thrae> sammyismc: Click on that link, read the instructions.
#1098 [13:51] <sammyismc> kk
#1099 [13:51] <sammyismc> Thanks
#1100 [13:52] * Thrae is AFK for foods
#1100 [13:53] <sammyismc> Lol
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#1103 [14:05] <sammismc> Okay im back
#1104 [14:05] <sammismc> :)) i restarted, now im going back to thewalkthrough
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#1107 [14:07] <sammismc> Damn. It still doesnt work
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#1109 [14:08] <sammismc> aww, i wish Thrae could come back
#1110 [14:08] <fnast> Hi guys. I would like to change my username in minecraft. As beta 1.5 was published, I found a FAQ which says that it'll be possible in the future. I cannot find this FAQ anymore - has the future become past?
#1111 [14:09] <Hungryunicorns> Anyone know how to fix a1dce528 error? -_-
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#1113 [14:11] <sammismc> Thrae, u tharr?
#1114 [14:12] <sammismc> OMG wait, the setup works now
#1115 [14:13] <sammismc> im restarting again, brb
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#1119 [14:22] <sammyismc> D':
#1120 [14:22] <sammyismc> Thrae please come on :((
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#1123 [14:22] <sammyismc> i really am stuck now
#1124 [14:22] <Thrae> sammyismc: What are you stuck on?
#1125 [14:22] <sammyismc> heyy,
#1126 [14:23] <sammyismc> well i followed all the instrctions
#1127 [14:23] <mib_i1cl5w> hello... what i must do when my game stop to play...? every 10 minute
#1128 [14:23] <sammyismc> and restarted
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#1130 [14:23] <sammyismc> then Tere wern't any more so then i tried to open the setup and it worked this time
#1131 [14:23] <mib_i1cl5w> there is writtin The game dont go
#1132 [14:23] <sammyismc> there"
#1133 [14:24] <sammyismc> so i did the setup and restarted and now im not sure what to do
#1134 [14:24] <sammyismc> i tried minecraft and it didnt work
#1135 [14:24] <mib_i1cl5w> ?
#1136 [14:25] <Wisskey> Hello. I have a question regarding buying minecraft over paypal. I have some issues.SOmeone please help.
#1137 [14:25] <sammyismc> So what do you think Thrae?
#1138 [14:26] <Thrae> sammyismc: You might be out of luck getting it to work.
#1139 [14:27] <sammyismc> aww snap
#1140 [14:27] <Thrae> sammyismc: I suggest getting a real video card.
#1141 [14:27] <sammyismc> where can i get one?
#1142 [14:27] <Thrae> Right now you're just using a CPU-based "Media Accelerator" which is part of the CPU and motherboard chipset.
#1143 [14:27] <sammyismc> kk
#1144 [14:28] <Thrae> Well, you're using a laptop so you can't really upgrade your graphics.
#1145 [14:28] <sammyismc> hmm
#1146 [14:28] <sammyismc> btw was nober 14 in the instructiosn an actual question or was it optional?
#1147 [14:28] <sammyismc> nuber"
#1148 [14:29] <sammyismc> number"
#1149 [14:29] <Wisskey> Anyone knows if someone here can help me with a buying issue over paypal? I just bought 2 gift cards for my friend and his brother,but now i wanted to buy Minecraft for myself and it's denied and i cannot buy it anymore.
#1150 [14:30] <sammyismc> Talk to the Mojang
#1151 [14:30] <sammyismc> lol
#1152 [14:30] <Scott> Wisskey: What type of gift card?
#1153 [14:30] <Thrae> sammyismc: 14 is if you encounter a problem.
#1154 [14:31] <sammyismc> kk
#1155 [14:31] <Wisskey> The gift cards that you can buy on minecraft.net. I bought 2 of them with paypal for my friend and his brother. But now i wanted to buy minecraft for myself and i can't anymore.
#1156 [14:31] <sammyismc> should i try 14 then?
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#1159 [14:34] <Scott> So you aren't talking about like a prepaid credit card?
#1160 [14:37] <Wisskey> No.Actually i was buying it over paypal. The credit card and everything else is fine. Checked it and it was ok. I bought 2x Minecraft (gift code) for my friend and his brother,but now i wanted to buy minecraft for myself. First it was denied,and when i tried it again it says: This account and/or Internet address has been temporarily blocked to make purchases
#1161 [14:37] <Wisskey> due to several fraudulent attempts.Please try again in 24 hours.
#1162 [14:38] <Wisskey> You know if there's a way i could buy it today,or i'll have to try it again tomorrow?
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#1170 [15:03] <BunnyDoll> Hello, im a Mac user and i have a problem with my webplay, eveyone inside de game can see me, but for me it's all Black, anyone can help me please?
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#1172 [15:04] <SimenOlai> hi
#1173 [15:04] <BunnyDoll> Hi
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#1175 [15:05] <Calinou> BunnyDoll: mac version? java version? minecraft version?
#1176 [15:06] <Calinou> if you're on 10.5.8, Beta 1.8.1 of Minecraft isn't compatible with it
#1177 [15:06] <Calinou> ?? mac/10.5.8
#1178 [15:06] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#1179 [15:06] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
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#1181 [15:06] <BunnyDoll> Thanks, let me see..
#1182 [15:06] <Calinou> there is a fix. the second solution is to play the "pre-release"
#1183 [15:07] <BunnyDoll> 10.6.8
#1184 [15:07] <Calinou> hmm...
#1185 [15:07] <BunnyDoll> That's my version... thanks a lot i will se that
#1186 [15:07] <Calinou> so yeah, it shouldn't be the problem.
#1187 [15:07] <Calinou> you just said "6", not "5"
#1188 [15:07] <BunnyDoll> see*
#1189 [15:07] <Calinou> also, what's your java version? is it even installed?
#1190 [15:07] <Calinou> when you say "it's all black", can you see the HUD (your health/etc)?
#1191 [15:07] <BunnyDoll> YEah i have the Mac OX X 10.6.8
#1192 [15:08] <BunnyDoll> No.. for me the game is black... just a big black square
#1193 [15:08] <Calinou> you can't even download it? does single player works fine?
#1194 [15:08] <Calinou> beta or classic?
#1195 [15:09] <BunnyDoll> Ok, let me see that... sorry, for the problem
#1196 [15:09] <BunnyDoll> i have download it, the Java
#1197 [15:10] <BunnyDoll> But Chrome keep telling me i have to download the plug in
#1198 [15:10] <Yellowchopsticks> i heard glowstone cant have stuff put on top of it anymore in the new version?
#1199 [15:10] <BunnyDoll> FF told me its ok the Plug in, but the same.. all balck, anda Safari too
#1200 [15:11] <BunnyDoll> i'm trying now with the single player
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#1202 [15:12] <ffs> Hey, for some reason my client won't connect to any mulitplayer servers
#1203 [15:12] <ffs> Do I need to open a port or something?
#1204 [15:13] <BunnyDoll> No... i cant connect with single player
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#1206 [15:14] <ffs> Single player is fine. When I bring up the server list, it polls then says can't connect.
#1207 [15:14] <yurilebb> i have a quick question about gift codes, when do i recive it?
#1208 [15:15] <Thrae> yurilebb: As soon as Moneybookers or Paypal processes your payment.
#1209 [15:15] <ffs> Anyone know how to fix my probelm? Google is failing me
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#1211 [15:16] <yurilebb> i got the moneybookers confirmation, but i dont see a gift code or anything linking about it
#1212 [15:18] <ffs> So noone has any idea why my client can't reach multiplayer servers?
#1213 [15:19] <BunnyDoll> i took a ss http://i44.tinypic.com/2h7qk2s.png
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#1215 [15:20] <ffs> Just download the standalone executable from the website and run that.
#1216 [15:20] <yurilebb> thrae my internet went down, did you reply to why second message?
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#1218 [15:21] <frogzilla> Need some help with my Minecraft :L
#1219 [15:21] <BunnyDoll> Thanks!
#1220 [15:22] <frogzilla> When I load Minecraft 1.8.1 on my WIndows XP Computer, After the 'Done Loading' Screen I recieve a black screen and minecraft fails to run...
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#1222 [15:22] <frogzilla> I have tried everything
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#1227 [15:24] <frogzilla> I have tried deleting my Minecraft folder and force updating, Changing screen resolution, updating Java and Graphics card, I also clean sweeped my PC and it still fails to Load
#1228 [15:24] <frogzilla> Please can someone help?
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#1230 [15:25] <frogzilla> When I load Minecraft 1.8.1 on my WIndows XP Computer, After the 'Done Loading' Screen I recieve a black screen and minecraft fails to run...I have tried everything
#1231 [15:25] <frogzilla> I have tried deleting my Minecraft folder and force updating, Changing screen resolution, updating Java and Graphics card, I also clean sweeped my PC and it still fails to Load Please can someone help?
#1232 [15:26] <frogzilla> ???
#1233 [15:32] <Yellowchopsticks> i read that glowstone cant have stuff attached to the blocks anymore in rc2, is that going to be a feature, or is it a bug
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#1235 [15:35] <BunnyDoll> Sorry to ask again, but i cant fix my problem
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#1239 [15:56] <mert369963> hey
#1240 [15:56] <mert369963> i need help
#1241 [15:57] <mert369963> it says cant connect to minecraft.net
#1242 [15:57] <mert369963> but i have internet acces
#1243 [15:57] <mert369963> help me lease
#1244 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> mert369963 - Has it ever worked before?
#1245 [15:57] <mert369963> yes but
#1246 [15:57] <mert369963> i just formatted my comp
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#1248 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> So you reinstalled your operating system/
#1249 [15:57] <mert369963> inst the graphic drivers java everything
#1250 [15:57] <mert369963> yes
#1251 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> Windows, I take it?
#1252 [15:58] <mert369963> yes lol
#1253 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> When you made the user account for windows, did you happen to place any exclaimation marks (!) in it?
#1254 [15:58] <mert369963> yes...
#1255 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> That'll do it
#1256 [15:59] <mert369963> so i have to re install os again
#1257 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Please try and create a new windows user account. One with a name that doesn't have a ! mark in it
#1258 [15:59] <mert369963> oh
#1259 [15:59] <mert369963> okay
#1260 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> No, you don't. Just create a new account in windows
#1261 [15:59] <mert369963> ok
#1262 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> The problem will be solved then
#1263 [15:59] <mert369963> thats a strange problem
#1264 [15:59] <mert369963> isnt it
#1265 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> We've seen this time and time again. I've been here over a year, it's actually a common problem
#1266 [16:00] <mert369963> so i just switch to other user and ıt works fine? you say?
#1267 [16:01] <mert369963> sorry for bad english btw
#1268 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> It'll work then, yes
#1269 [16:01] <mert369963> okay see you in a bit
#1270 [16:01] <eggy> heh
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#1273 [16:06] <mert369963> THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
#1274 [16:06] <mert369963> IT WORKED
#1275 [16:06] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1275 [16:06] <mert369963> :)
#1276 [16:06] <mert369963> i must sleep now
#1277 [16:07] <mert369963> its 23:06 here
#1278 [16:07] <mert369963> bye
#1279 [16:07] <mert369963> i will sleep in peace that i solved that problem
#1280 [16:07] <mert369963> THANK YOU VERY MUCH
#1281 [16:07] <mert369963> THANK YOU VERY MUCH
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#1285 [16:24] <Boreeas> !check 85.214.137.87
#1286 [16:24] <Boreeas> .check 85.214.137.87
#1287 [16:24] <Boreeas> Gah
#1288 [16:27] <BunnyDoll> Please, anyone can help me... im trying to play, i'm a Mac user. 10.6.8 version, im trying to play in a Browser... but i have already try in FF, Chrome & Safari, but everyone inside the game can see me, but the only thing i see is a big black screen.... i have try a lot of things... please i need some help
#1289 [16:30] <Scott> Are you trying to play Classic?
#1290 [16:30] <Scott> (the free version)
#1291 [16:31] <BunnyDoll> Yes
#1292 [16:31] <BunnyDoll> I want to try before buying
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#1294 [16:31] <Scott> It never worked for me.
#1295 [16:31] <Scott> I tried to play it on OS X 10.6 and 10.7.
#1296 [16:31] <Scott> The paid version does work though.
#1297 [16:31] <BunnyDoll> Ohh... thanks a lot
#1298 [16:31] <treyvoda> Can somebody help me out??
#1299 [16:31] <Scott> The free and paid version are very different anyawys.
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#1301 [16:32] <BunnyDoll> But i really DK if i like this type of game.. thats why i wanna try it
#1302 [16:32] <treyvoda> I have a big problem and I have no idea how to fix my Minecraft
#1303 [16:32] <BunnyDoll> Thanks a lot Scott anyway
#1304 [16:33] <Scott> If you wish to see that it works: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9631803/Screenshots/vnl3.png
#1305 [16:34] <Scott> treyvoda: You have yet to tell us what your problem is.
#1306 [16:34] <Scott> We are not mind readers. :<
#1307 [16:34] <treyvoda> Thanks
#1308 [16:34] <treyvoda> I know
#1309 [16:34] <treyvoda> I didn't know if anybody saw my messages
#1310 [16:35] <treyvoda> But anyways it says
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#1312 [16:35] <treyvoda> Fatal error occured
#1313 [16:35] <treyvoda> (2)
#1314 [16:35] <dr_bibble> hey
#1315 [16:35] <Scott> what says that?
#1316 [16:35] <dr_bibble> is there going to have any more fetures added
#1317 [16:35] <Scott> Minecraft? Your OS crash reporter thingy?
#1318 [16:35] <treyvoda> when I try and log in to minecraft
#1319 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> dr_bibble - Yes
#1320 [16:35] <treyvoda> it says update now or no
#1321 [16:35] <dr_bibble> and what will ender dragon eggs do spawn baby ones?
#1322 [16:35] <treyvoda> I click yes
#1323 [16:36] <treyvoda> and then this message pops up
#1324 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> dr_bibble - We have no idea
#1325 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> dr_bibble - We have no idea
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#1327 [16:36] <treyvoda> I can use imageshack so you can see exactly what it says
#1328 [16:36] <Scott> That would be good
#1329 [16:36] <treyvoda> Hold on one second
#1330 [16:42] <treyvoda> ok
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#1332 [16:42] <treyvoda> I got the picture
#1333 [16:42] <Puffinlump> Heya, I have a technical question could anyone help?
#1334 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Puffinlump - Ask away
#1335 [16:43] <Puffinlump> Well it's just that I want to try the game free online before I buy but I can't get it to run in my browser
#1336 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Try the demo
#1337 [16:43] <Puffinlump> I've installed the current version of Java
#1338 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> ?? demo
#1339 [16:43] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#1340 [16:43] <Puffinlump> Demo?
#1341 [16:43] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#1342 [16:43] <Puffinlump> Ahhh, okay I will check that out
#1343 [16:48] <Yellowchopsticks> is glowstone going to be glass type or stone type?
#1344 [16:49] <treyvoda> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/treyw.png/
#1345 [16:49] <treyvoda> That's what pops up..
#1346 [16:51] <treyvoda> So if you can help, it would be greatly appreciated
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#1351 [17:01] <Yellowchopsticks> is there a lava/water interaction that doesnt produce obsidian or cobble/smooth stone?
#1352 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1353 [17:02] <TheNoodle> Not in 1.8.1
#1354 [17:02] <DAKREZ> My game runs very slow how do i change that
#1355 [17:02] <treyvoda> ok can somebody help me out now?
#1356 [17:02] <treyvoda> this is the message that pops up
#1357 [17:02] <treyvoda> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/treyw.png/
#1358 [17:03] <TheNoodle> treyvoda, right click on minecraft.exe and select run as administrator.
#1359 [17:03] <treyvoda> I feel stupid.
#1360 [17:03] <treyvoda> If this works
#1361 [17:03] <treyvoda> I am going to hurt myself
#1362 [17:03] <TheNoodle> lol
#1363 [17:04] <treyvoda> Nope..
#1364 [17:04] <TheNoodle> Shame, that would have been nice.
#1365 [17:04] <treyvoda> the same message
#1366 [17:04] <TheNoodle> Okay, in that case, select options and do a force update.
#1367 [17:04] <treyvoda> Yes it would have
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#1369 [17:04] <treyvoda> I'll try that again.
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#1371 [17:05] <treyvoda> Nope
#1372 [17:05] <treyvoda> I don't even have anything in %appdata%
#1373 [17:05] <treyvoda> or the "roaming" folder
#1374 [17:06] <TheNoodle> So when you force update, does it complete or give the error there?
#1375 [17:06] <treyvoda> give the error
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#1377 [17:07] <TheNoodle> Okay, just as a test, try creating a new administrator account.
#1378 [17:07] <mib_ob1bzw> cannot start playing minecraft after downloading: bad video card drivers???
#1379 [17:07] <mib_ob1bzw> HELP!
#1380 [17:07] <VoxelHead> mib_ob1bzw: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#1381 [17:08] <TheNoodle> lol
#1382 [17:08] <treyvoda> let me go try
#1383 [17:09] <treyvoda> So how do I make a new one?
#1384 [17:09] <TheNoodle> Start - Control Panel -> User accounts -> Create account
#1385 [17:10] <treyvoda> ok I just did that
#1386 [17:11] <treyvoda> be right bacdk
#1387 [17:11] <treyvoda> back*
#1388 [17:11] <TheNoodle> Is it an administrator account?
#1389 [17:11] <treyvoda> yes
#1390 [17:11] <TheNoodle> Okay, just checking ;)
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#1394 [17:13] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Hey, I'm having trouble launching Minecraft? It crashes before I get to the Mojang screen. I login, it goes black, then crashes
#1395 [17:13] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: has it worked before on your computer?
#1396 [17:13] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Yes, very well actually
#1397 [17:14] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: have you been using mods?
#1398 [17:14] <Sigilus_Sanctus> SkyBlock 1.1
#1399 [17:14] <Sigilus_Sanctus> That's it
#1400 [17:14] <zkxs> ??> Sigilus_Sanctus forceupdate
#1401 [17:14] <VoxelHead> Sigilus_Sanctus: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1402 [17:14] <VoxelHead> Sigilus_Sanctus: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1403 [17:14] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Ok I'll try that real quick.
#1404 [17:15] <Sigilus_Sanctus> No. It just crashed again
#1405 [17:16] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: do you have some sort of mod loading application installed?
#1406 [17:17] <Sigilus_Sanctus> No
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#1408 [17:19] <mib_5eqqvj> can anybody help with a payment issue?
#1409 [17:19] <TheNoodle> Have you installed a modpack such as the yogscast thing? Anything that would modify the launcher.
#1410 [17:19] <TheNoodle> ??> mib_5eqqvj payment
#1411 [17:19] <VoxelHead> mib_5eqqvj: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1412 [17:19] <VoxelHead> mib_5eqqvj: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#1413 [17:19] <Sigilus_Sanctus> No, the only Mod I use is SkyBlock 1.1
#1414 [17:20] <TheNoodle> Operating system?
#1415 [17:20] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Windows XP
#1416 [17:21] <TheNoodle> ??> Sigilus_Sanctus win/reinst
#1417 [17:21] <VoxelHead> Sigilus_Sanctus: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1418 [17:21] <VoxelHead> Sigilus_Sanctus: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1419 [17:21] <mib_5eqqvj> no no, sorry, i didnt explain properly, i fill in my details, click pay then i get a message saying incomplete, wrong merchant email address, any ideas?
#1420 [17:21] <TheNoodle> How are you trying to pay?
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#1422 [17:22] <mib_5eqqvj> mastercard, uk, on safari (mac)
#1423 [17:22] <TheNoodle> One moment.
#1424 [17:23] <TheNoodle> Okay, mind messaging me the email address you're trying to useA?
#1425 [17:24] <TheNoodle> *use
#1426 [17:24] <TheNoodle> To do so just double click on my name.
#1427 [17:25] <mib_5eqqvj> ok, just one thing, does it have to be a specific email address? i just entered the one i used to sign up and get an account
#1428 [17:25] <TheNoodle> That should be fine.
#1429 [17:26] <Sigilus_Sanctus> @VoxelHead. I've tried that three times actually before today and that doesn't work either
#1430 [17:26] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: have you tried downloading the launcher again?
#1431 [17:26] <zkxs> ... just in case it did somehow get modded...
#1432 [17:27] <TheNoodle> Okay, mib_5eqqvj, work around time! :3
#1433 [17:27] <mib_5eqqvj> any reason why it wouldnt work then? sorry just not keen on handing out personal details to just anyone
#1434 [17:27] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Yep
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#1436 [17:27] <TheNoodle> Select the option to use paypal instead, when it asks you to login click the option below the login prompt.
#1437 [17:28] <TheNoodle> That will allow you to proccess the payment through paypal instead.
#1438 [17:28] <mib_5eqqvj> i dont need a paypal account?
#1439 [17:28] <zkxs> ^ Yep ?
#1440 [17:28] <TheNoodle> Correct, that's what the option below the prompt is for.
#1441 [17:28] <zkxs> oh... I see
#1442 [17:28] <TheNoodle> "Har du inget PayPal-konto?" but that's just me.
#1443 [17:29] <mib_5eqqvj> wonderful thanks for the help
#1444 [17:29] <TheNoodle> I have no idea why my paypal is now in swedish.
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#1446 [17:29] <mib_vt6o2b> Someone help!
#1447 [17:29] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: lets try and get some nice error output! Could you download the jar launcher? https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1448 [17:29] <TheNoodle> oh my gawsh mib_vt6o2b!
#1449 [17:29] <TheNoodle> What do you need help with?
#1450 [17:30] <TheNoodle> wat.
#1451 [17:30] <zkxs> YEW SCARUD HIM ORF
#1452 [17:30] <mib_5eqqvj> actually one more thing
#1453 [17:30] <TheNoodle> :3 that's my job
#1454 [17:30] <zkxs> sic em
#1455 [17:31] <mib_5eqqvj> before i buy, can i check sys specs with you guys, i know it doesnt have many but best to be sure
#1456 [17:31] <rymate1234_> heh
#1457 [17:31] <rymate1234_> minecraft needs at least 1GB ram
#1458 [17:31] <TheNoodle> Go for it, but we can't be held responsible if the game doesn't run.
#1459 [17:31] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: once that is downloaded, could you start command prompt?
#1460 [17:32] <mib_5eqqvj> yeah i get that, im using an old laptop whilst i move house
#1461 [17:32] * TheNoodle feels that his arse has been sufficently covered
#1461 [17:33] <mib_5eqqvj> Mac OS X 10.5.8 / 1.33 ghz powerpc g4 / 1.25 gb
#1462 [17:33] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: btw, how familiar are you with command prompt? I want to know how in-depth to make my instructions
#1463 [17:33] <rymate1234_> mib_5eqqvj: good luck! :P
#1464 [17:33] <TheNoodle> Funny that mib_5eqqvj.
#1465 [17:33] <TheNoodle> :old/mac
#1466 [17:33] <WugBot> old/mac: As of the 1.8 update minecraft will not work on Mac OSX 10.5.8, due to an update in the version of OpenGL it uses. This is a known issue and will be corrected as soon as 1.9 is released. Please be patient, as this is not the fault of Mojang. Blame instead apple, becuse they cannot keep their OS's running the latest version of important software.
#1467 [17:33] <WugBot> old/mac: A fan made fix can be found here: http://goo.gl/ae0jx and a tutorial here: http://goo.gl/IWLwN
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#1470 [17:35] <mib_5eqqvj> ..............damn
#1471 [17:35] <mib_5eqqvj> anyone know the 1.9 release date?
#1472 [17:36] <TheNytangel> 18th
#1473 [17:36] <TheNytangel> This friday
#1474 [17:36] <TheNoodle> Minecraft's official release date is planned to be on the 18th of November 2011, from memory.
#1475 [17:36] <TheNytangel> The final release
#1476 [17:36] <Sigilus_Sanctus> I'm mildly familiar with it. I can create new users and such, that's about it
#1477 [17:36] <mib_5eqqvj> does that mean the price will go up?
#1478 [17:36] <Sigilus_Sanctus> I downloaded the launcher though
#1479 [17:36] <TheNoodle> Correct.
#1480 [17:36] <eggy> yep
#1481 [17:36] <TheNytangel> Yeah
#1482 [17:36] <TheNoodle> Heh, I didn't think about that.
#1483 [17:36] <TheNytangel> To $28
#1484 [17:36] <mib_5eqqvj> ......
#1485 [17:36] <TheNoodle> I need to buy more giftcodes.
#1486 [17:37] <mib_5eqqvj> GBP price anyone?
#1487 [17:37] <TheNoodle> I still have ~10 alpha keys \o/
#1488 [17:37] <TheNytangel> mib_5eqqvj, $25
#1489 [17:37] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, I'll take one :)
#1490 [17:37] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: can you use the cd command to change to the directory you downloaded the launcher .jar file to?
#1491 [17:37] <TheNoodle> lol
#1492 [17:37] <mib_5eqqvj> thats USD?
#1493 [17:37] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: it is cd 'C:\Your\Directory\Goes\Here'
#1494 [17:38] <TheNytangel> Yeah
#1495 [17:38] <TheNoodle> mib_5eqqvj, 1.25*whatever it is now.
#1496 [17:38] <zkxs> ^ make those double quotes, i'm used to linux, sorry
#1497 [17:38] <TheNoodle> Assuming it's at 75% now.
#1498 [17:38] <mib_5eqqvj> ah right, this has been a fun and informative evening....
#1499 [17:39] <Sigilus_Sanctus> ZKXS can you move to pm?
#1500 [17:39] <zkxs> ?? pm
#1501 [17:39] <VoxelHead> pm: Private messages, or PM's, are sent from one person to another directly, and prevent the main chat from getting clogged.
#1502 [17:39] <VoxelHead> pm: PM's appear, in Mibbit, in tabs on the upper left, labelled by the nickname of the sender.
#1503 [17:39] <zkxs> buh
#1504 [17:39] <Sigilus_Sanctus> 3
#1505 [17:39] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Sorry, private message
#1506 [17:40] <zkxs> ?? dont/pm
#1507 [17:40] <VoxelHead> dont/pm: We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1508 [17:40] <TheNoodle> Informational you say mib_5eqqvj?
#1509 [17:40] <TheNoodle> Did you know, 1 in 5,000 north Atlantic lobsters are born bright blue.?
#1510 [17:40] <Scott> yes!
#1511 [17:40] <mib_5eqqvj> i did know that
#1512 [17:40] <Scott> they are pretty
#1513 [17:40] <TheNoodle> \o/
#1514 [17:40] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: if you need me, you can just say my name and it'll beep at me
#1515 [17:41] <Scott> It's a genetic mutation.
#1516 [17:41] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Ok, because I have a class in a little that'll last for a few hours. I just wanted to know if I'd be able to message you later
#1517 [17:41] <TheNoodle> Clans of long ago that wanted to get rid of unwanted people without killing them used to burn their houses down -- hence the expression "to get fired".
#1518 [17:41] <zkxs> sure, i'll be on till around 6
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#1520 [17:41] <Sigilus_Sanctus> I'm on the Eastern Seaboard. Is that about two hours for you?
#1521 [17:41] <TheNytangel> zkxs, what time is it now?
#1522 [17:42] <zkxs> 4:42
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#1524 [17:42] <TheNoodle> He'll be on for just over an hour Sigilus_Sanctus.
#1525 [17:43] <Puffinlump> Hi there... any chance you can help with the PC Gamer Minecraft demo?
#1526 [17:43] <Sigilus_Sanctus> zkxs Ok I'll just try to do this quick then. So under directory, would that be C:\DocumentsandSettings\ApplicationData\Owner\.minecraft ?
#1527 [17:43] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: where did you download the jar file to?
#1528 [17:43] <mib_5eqqvj> anyway ill just get my brother to get the account for me on his machine, pay less then get 1.9 on here later, theres always a way eh?
#1529 [17:44] <zkxs> ^ this one: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1530 [17:44] <Sigilus_Sanctus> It automatically downloaded to shared documents
#1531 [17:44] <Puffinlump> or, help getting the free browser version to work?
#1532 [17:45] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: change to that directory in command prompt
#1533 [17:45] <zkxs> cd "C:\ur\dir\go\
#1534 [17:45] <zkxs> here"
#1535 [17:46] * zkxs pressed enter too early
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#1536 [17:47] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: you can paste if you right click and chose paste
#1537 [17:47] <Sigilus_Sanctus> I'm sorry I'm behind. Which directory do I need to put it in? The one containing my .minecraft folder?
#1538 [17:48] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: any directoy except that
#1539 [17:48] <zkxs> C:\ would be easiest to find
#1540 [17:48] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Ok, well its under ...\DocumentsandSettings\SharedDocuments
#1541 [17:48] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Oh I get it now!
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#1543 [17:49] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: once you are in the correct directory run this command: java -jar minecraft.jar
#1544 [17:50] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Ok
#1545 [17:50] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: what happens?
#1546 [17:51] <Sigilus_Sanctus> "unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar"
#1547 [17:51] <zkxs> run the dir command and see if minecraft.jar is there
#1548 [17:52] <zkxs> it should be in that list if you are in the right place
#1549 [17:52] <zkxs> (and the path to the left of your cursor should be the correct directory)
#1550 [17:54] <Sigilus_Sanctus> I'm having trouble getting to the directory containing the jar file. Hold on
#1551 [17:54] <zkxs> put the path it "double quotes"
#1552 [17:54] <zkxs> command prompt does not like spaces
#1553 [17:54] <Wug> Sigilus_Sanctus: you're supposed to run the launcher, not the minecraft game jar itself
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#1555 [17:54] <Wug> the launcher is the one you download from minecraft.net
#1556 [17:55] <Wug> ...
#1557 [17:55] <Wug> its distinctly possible that I'll lose power
#1558 [17:55] <Wug> weather is most bad.
#1559 [17:55] <zkxs> I've got a nice UPS
#1560 [17:55] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Oh so I need to get to the path containing the launcher!
#1561 [17:55] <zkxs> yes
#1562 [17:55] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Whoops
#1563 [17:55] <zkxs> -.-
#1564 [17:56] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Lol ok I understand now, I was confused for a second
#1565 [17:56] <Wug> you can launch the other one directly but unless you absolutely have to, I woundlt bother
#1566 [17:56] <Wug> its considerably less easy
#1567 [17:57] <Sigilus_Sanctus> zkxs I used the cd command to get to the right directory, then tried using the script you told me to java -jar minecraft.jar
#1568 [17:58] <Sigilus_Sanctus> It gives me the same error as before though
#1569 [17:58] <zkxs> when you use the 'dir' command does minecraft.jar show up in the list?
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#1571 [17:58] <Sigilus_Sanctus> No that's under a different directory. I'll go ahead and move it
#1572 [17:58] <zkxs> ...
#1573 [17:59] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Sorry, I'm a noob
#1574 [17:59] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: there are two minecraft.jar's we are dealing with, we DO NOT want the one from %appdata%\.minecraft
#1575 [18:00] <Sigilus_Sanctus> ok it's there now, I'm going to retry
#1576 [18:00] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Right, we want the one you wanted me to download
#1577 [18:00] <zkxs> yeah, this one: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1578 [18:00] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Yeah, that's the one I just moved to my .minecraft file
#1579 [18:00] <zkxs> we don't need the one in .minecraft
#1580 [18:00] <zkxs> nooooooo
#1581 [18:00] <Sigilus_Sanctus> ...
#1582 [18:01] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: have you ever heard of teamviewer?
#1583 [18:01] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Nope
#1584 [18:01] <TheNoodle> ??> Sigilus_Sanctus tv
#1585 [18:02] <TheNoodle> :(
#1586 [18:02] <zkxs> Sigilus_Sanctus: it would let me remote into your pc. we can do that, or keep going about this over the chat
#1587 [18:02] <TheNoodle> ??> Sigilus_Sanctus teamviewer
#1588 [18:02] <VoxelHead> Sigilus_Sanctus: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1589 [18:02] <VoxelHead> Sigilus_Sanctus: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1590 [18:02] <zkxs> this would be what you would need: http://www.teamviewer.com/download/TeamViewerQS_en.exe
#1591 [18:03] <zkxs> if you aren't comfortable with me moving your mouse and stuff, we can keep doing this
#1592 [18:03] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Sorry but I'm touchy about my PC. But I'm just going to redownload that jar file and just place it under C:\"jar file
#1593 [18:03] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Ok
#1594 [18:03] <zkxs> that would be great
#1595 [18:03] <zkxs> and while your at it, delete %appdata%\.minecraft again
#1596 [18:03] <zkxs> the launcher is definitely not supposed to go there, that would be bad
#1597 [18:04] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Ok. And where would be a good place for me to place it then?
#1598 [18:04] <zkxs> C:\
#1599 [18:04] <zkxs> name it minecraft.jar in all lowercase
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#1601 [18:05] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Ok
#1602 [18:06] <zkxs> after it is downloaded, do this in command prompt without quotes: 'java -jar C:\minecraft.jar > C:\mcerror.txt'
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#1604 [18:06] <zkxs> then open C:\mcerror.txt
#1605 [18:06] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Unable to access still
#1606 [18:06] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Unable to access still
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#1608 [18:07] <zkxs> try this then: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1609 [18:08] <Wug> Sigilus_Sanctus: use this launcher
#1610 [18:08] <Wug> :ts/launcher
#1611 [18:08] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#1612 [18:08] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#1613 [18:08] <Wug> you should be able to run it by double clicking it
#1614 [18:08] <zkxs> ...omg
#1615 [18:08] <Wug> zkxs: it automatically saves a log file
#1616 [18:08] <zkxs> that is so much better :O
#1617 [18:08] <Sigilus_Sanctus> The specified size exceeds the maximum representable size
#1618 [18:09] <Sigilus_Sanctus> I tried yours Wug but it says "invalid or corrupted file" and wouldn't let me open it
#1619 [18:09] <Wug> try updating java?
#1620 [18:10] <zkxs> ??> Sigilus_Sanctus java
#1621 [18:10] <Sigilus_Sanctus> I'm sorry but I have to leave for class for now. Thanks for your help though I'm sure I'll find something. And yes
#1622 [18:10] <Wug> :j
#1623 [18:10] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#1624 [18:10] <zkxs> BUH
#1625 [18:10] <Puffinlump> I have a problem running classic Minecraft in my browser, if anyone can give me a minute?
#1626 [18:11] <Puffinlump> I just want to try the free version before I buy the game, mainly. But the PC Gamer demo version isn't working for me either >.<
#1627 [18:12] <Wug> probably video drivers
#1628 [18:12] <Wug> :dx > Puffinlump
#1629 [18:12] <WugBot> Puffinlump: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1630 [18:12] <WugBot> Puffinlump: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1631 [18:12] <zkxs> does windows come with appletviewer installed?
#1632 [18:12] <Puffinlump> Ok, working on it
#1633 [18:12] <TheNoodle> wat.
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#1635 [18:14] * zkxs ssh's into a windows computer
#1635 [18:14] <Puffinlump> Ok here you go: http://pastebin.com/JN5H1jP7
#1636 [18:14] <zkxs> ooh! it does!
#1637 [18:19] <Wug> Puffinlump: download and install: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20391&ProdId=3319&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20Home%20Premium%2C%2064-bit%20version*&DownloadType=%0ADrivers%0A
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#1640 [18:20] <Puffinlump> Ok
#1641 [18:20] <tdm93> Okay, so I've been on this help chat before - I have bad video card drivers, two people before have tried to help in assisting me to updating my video card drivers and in installing all new ones. But I the game still tells me I have bad video card drivers
#1642 [18:21] <zkxs> at least we are consistent
#1643 [18:22] <tdm93> I'm here seeing if there's any other way to get the game to run, I mean paying $22 for a game that doesn't work is crappy.
#1644 [18:22] <zkxs> tdm93: what type of graphics card do you have?
#1645 [18:23] <tdm93> One second, I'll link you to the paste bin in a second
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#1647 [18:23] <tdm93> http://pastebin.com/pJ0csTki
#1648 [18:23] <Puffinlump> Ok Wug, I did that, and it's telling me to restart. Shall I do that now?
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#1651 [18:25] <zkxs> i have the suspicion java isn't entirely cross-platform...
#1652 [18:25] <Wug> Puffinlump: yup
#1653 [18:26] <Wug> zkxs: what gave it away
#1654 [18:26] <Puffinlump> Okies. I'll be back. ;)
#1655 [18:26] <zkxs> ubuntu has been having nothing but problems with applets
#1656 [18:27] <zkxs> if only my school taught c++... but they only offer java D:
#1657 [18:27] <Wug> you know you can learn it without school
#1658 [18:27] <Wug> just make sure you focus on memory management
#1659 [18:27] <Wug> most of everything else is the same as java
#1660 [18:27] <zkxs> yeah, but now i have homework to deal with :/
#1661 [18:27] <Wug> I taught myself c++ in high school
#1662 [18:27] <zkxs> i have dabbled in c++ a bit, but then school started
#1663 [18:28] <Wug> they didnt even offer java, c++ was my first language
#1664 [18:28] <tdm93> I mean my computer is a Dell DV051 desktop that runs on Windows XP what do I have to do to get it to work?
#1665 [18:28] <zkxs> *cough cough*
#1666 [18:28] <Wug> tdm93: it might not ever. your graphics card, quite plainly, sucks
#1667 [18:28] <Wug> if intel ever releases better drivers for it it might work, and they probably wont
#1668 [18:29] <tdm93> And seeing previous results there's no way my computer will accept and update or installing a new graphics card driver?
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#1670 [18:29] <Wug> seeing as its been 6 years since the last update of the drivers for that card
#1671 [18:29] <Wug> I'm pretty sure the driver you have is "up to date"
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#1673 [18:29] <Wug> in that its the most recent available driver
#1674 [18:30] <tdm93> I know it's not your field at all, but it is impossible to get a refund on Minecraft, isn't it?
#1675 [18:30] <Wug> no it's not.
#1676 [18:30] <Wug> you can just hold onto the account, you'll get a better computer someday
#1677 [18:30] <Wug> just dont pick one with intel graphics and you're set
#1678 [18:30] <zkxs> minecraft is forever, darling
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#1680 [18:31] <Scott> I'm forever.
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#1682 [18:31] <Thrae> Wug: I specifically say "Nvidia or ATI" as Intel is not the only manufacturer of integrated graphics...don't want someone coming here with like a SiS chipset and saying "But it's not Intel!"
#1683 [18:32] <TheNoodle> lol
#1684 [18:32] <Wug> but notice, the only one we see with issues is intel
#1685 [18:32] <Puffinlump_again> So Wug, now the free browser version and the PC Gamer demo version both are working. :D Thanks!
#1686 [18:32] <Wug> we occasionally see rust random discrete cards with really old drivers that dont work either
#1687 [18:33] <Thrae> I see plenty of issues with old ATI chipsets because ATI no longer provides updates
#1688 [18:33] <Thrae> Also, really old SiS chipsets
#1689 [18:33] <Wug> sis were dedicated cards
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#1691 [18:33] <Thrae> They had both dedicated and integrated
#1692 [18:33] <Wug> and we usually get them working
#1693 [18:34] <Wug> unlike the intel ones, which are pretty much a death sentence
#1694 [18:34] <Thrae> Their "ViaChrome" have dedicated memory, but it shares the CPU like all the other integrated ones
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#1697 [18:55] <Ayui> HEllo
#1698 [18:55] <Ayui> i have a problem
#1699 [18:55] <Ayui> with minecraft
#1700 [18:56] <Scott> will you explain this problem?
#1701 [18:56] <Ayui> yes
#1702 [18:56] <Ayui> i bought the game and such
#1703 [18:57] <Ayui> and eh i clicked log in (for beta) and it says it has a choice to update ...if i no he goes black and if i click YES it says
#1704 [18:57] <Ayui> and eh i clicked log in (for beta) and it says it has a choice to update ...if i no he goes black and if i click YES it says
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#1707 [18:58] <TheNoodle> lolled.
#1708 [18:59] <TheNytangel> Lol
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#1710 [18:59] <Scott> oops
#1711 [18:59] <Scott> eek
#1712 [18:59] <Scott> wtf happened
#1713 [19:00] * Wug baps Scott
#1713 [19:00] <Wug> greys not here
#1714 [19:00] <Wug> so I did it
#1715 [19:00] <Scott> what happen?
#1716 [19:00] * Scott is confused
#1716 [19:00] <TheNytangel> Scott, I invited you? :P
#1717 [19:00] <Wug> I bap't you
#1718 [19:00] <Scott> why?
#1719 [19:00] <Wug> its normally grey's job
#1720 [19:00] <TheNytangel> So you could finish helping him
#1721 [19:00] <Scott> Nono, why did I get kicked?
#1722 [19:00] <TheNytangel> You left
#1723 [19:00] <Wug> you didnt, you left
#1724 [19:00] <Scott> oh
#1725 [19:00] <Scott> stupid client
#1726 [19:01] <TheNytangel> * Scott (~scott@allgamer.net) has left #minecrafthelp (Leaving)
#1727 [19:01] <Scott> OH
#1728 [19:01] * Scott is confused beyond belief.
#1728 [19:01] <Scott> The user list was scrolled down
#1729 [19:01] <Scott> so I only saw 1 op
#1730 [19:01] <Scott> and I was freaking out
#1731 [19:01] <Wug> lol
#1732 [19:01] <Scott> anyways, what was I doing?
#1733 [19:01] <Wug> helping Ayui
#1734 [19:01] <TheNytangel> Being confused
#1735 [19:02] <Ayui> fatal error occured (2) : c :/users/kyle/appdata/roaming/.minecraft/bin/version/ (access denied) THATS WHATS SAYING and i want to freaken play
#1736 [19:02] <Scott> Do you guys think I'm crazy now?
#1737 [19:02] <Scott> Ayui try this
#1738 [19:02] <Ayui> but there is no smily face
#1739 [19:02] <Scott> ??> win/reinst
#1740 [19:02] <Ayui> k
#1741 [19:02] <Ayui> what?
#1742 [19:02] <Scott> ??> Ayui win/reinst
#1743 [19:02] <TheNoodle> :|
#1744 [19:02] <VoxelHead> Ayui: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1745 [19:02] <VoxelHead> Ayui: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1746 [19:03] <Scott> I'm sorry, I'm not on my usual computer right now so I'm a bit out of touch with everything.
#1747 [19:03] * Wug restarts Scott
#1747 [19:03] <TheNytangel> Scott, might not have permission...
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#1749 [19:05] <Ayui> it worked thanks alot
#1750 [19:05] <Ayui> Voxelhead
#1751 [19:06] <TheNytangel> Scott, would you buy an atlas from... many years ago?
#1752 [19:07] <Scott> No?
#1753 [19:07] <Scott> Ayui: yay! :)
#1754 [19:07] <TheNytangel> Wug, would you?
#1755 [19:07] <Ayui> lol ty
#1756 [19:08] <Scott> I can't do anything right when I'm not using a mac anymore. :/
#1757 [19:09] <TheNytangel> The United States used to grow a lot of corn...
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#1759 [19:11] <TheNytangel> Weird how nobody even bothered to put a date in this
#1760 [19:13] <Scott> The US still does
#1761 [19:13] <Scott> I would assume
#1762 [19:13] <Scott> given how high fructose corn syrup is like water.
#1763 [19:13] <TheNytangel> Scott, would you buy a book called "World War II through German Eyes" published in 1989?
#1764 [19:13] <Scott> Umm no.
#1765 [19:14] <TheNytangel> It has illustrations *nudge nudge*
#1766 [19:14] <Scott> I only need 1 book right now.
#1767 [19:14] <Scott> I wish to become Apple certified.
#1768 [19:14] <Scott> I need the exam study book thingy.
#1769 [19:16] <TheNytangel> Ewww
#1770 [19:16] <TheNytangel> Why did I start looking through this book?
#1771 [19:17] <Scott> is it filled with yaoi?
#1772 [19:17] <TheNytangel> Dead... naked... beach...
#1773 [19:17] <TheNytangel> Skinny people..
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#1775 [19:19] <Evebrey> anyone around ?
#1776 [19:19] <TheNoodle> always baby.
#1777 [19:19] <Evebrey> lool
#1778 [19:19] <Evebrey> :I
#1779 [19:20] <Evebrey> I'm having trouble with MC
#1780 [19:20] <Evebrey> " I cant connet to Minecraft.net "
#1781 [19:20] <Evebrey> But I tried everything, its so annoying
#1782 [19:20] <TheNoodle> Disabled any AV?
#1783 [19:20] <Evebrey> nope
#1784 [19:21] <Yellowchopsticks> can mobs spawn on blocks that have rail already on it?
#1785 [19:21] <TheNoodle> Do that.
#1786 [19:22] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, would you buy a book called "World War II through German Eyes?" :P
#1787 [19:22] <Evebrey> I cant do anything
#1788 [19:22] <TheNytangel> Yellowchopsticks, yeah
#1789 [19:22] <Evebrey> I cant
#1790 [19:22] <Evebrey> sign in through the launcher
#1791 [19:22] <Evebrey> or the Browser
#1792 [19:22] <Evebrey> and in my rage
#1793 [19:22] <Yellowchopsticks> thought so, just making sure
#1794 [19:22] <TheNoodle> You know what TheNytangel, I probably would.
#1795 [19:22] <Evebrey> I deleted the .Minecraft folder
#1796 [19:22] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, so if I sold it on eBay, you would buy it? :)
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#1798 [19:23] <Yellowchopsticks> TheNytangel, what blocks looks nice for putting rail on? im using glowstone right now, but that's apparently going to change
#1799 [19:23] <TheNoodle> Depends, how much, what condition is the book in, how much is shipping?
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#1801 [19:23] <TheNytangel> Yellowchopsticks, mobs won't spawn in light
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#1803 [19:23] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, it's inn.. very good condition, shipping is $4
#1804 [19:23] <Chrisray408> Hey umm, does anyone know how to fix a .minecraft lacking everything but the bin?
#1805 [19:24] <Scott> force update
#1806 [19:24] <Chrisray408> that's not working
#1807 [19:24] <Chrisray408> i did so several times
#1808 [19:24] <TheNoodle> TheNytangel, even to australia? :P
#1809 [19:25] <TheNytangel> *cough*
#1810 [19:25] <TheNytangel> Do you have UPS in australia?
#1811 [19:25] <Chrisray408> yeah, nothing
#1812 [19:25] <TheNoodle> No idea.
#1813 [19:25] <TheNytangel> FedEx?
#1814 [19:25] <Yellowchopsticks> i know, but since glowstone is changing so i cant put rail on glowstone anymore...
#1815 [19:25] <Yellowchopsticks> i need some other backing material :P
#1816 [19:25] <Chrisray408> here's the technical info: org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Could not create context at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsContextImplementation.nCreate(Native Method) at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsContextImplementation.create(WindowsContextImplementation.java:50) at org.lwjgl.opengl.Context.<init>(Context.java:120) at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.create(Display.java:858) at org
#1817 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> Either java or video drivers
#1818 [19:26] <Yellowchopsticks> im gonna light it up anyway, no matter what, but i cant figure out which blocks i should put rail on
#1819 [19:26] <TheNoodle> TheNytangel, you realise the Fed part of FedEx stands for federal right? ie, not australia? :P
#1820 [19:26] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, do you have FedEx?
#1821 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Can't remember which one that error is in regards to
#1822 [19:26] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, so? :P
#1823 [19:26] <Chrisray408> hmm, well i updated java yesterday and all of my video drivers are up to date,
#1824 [19:26] <TheNoodle> ie, not afaik :p
#1825 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Chrisray408 - Could you do a full uninstall/reinstall of java?
#1826 [19:27] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, hold on, I'll pm you
#1827 [19:28] <Ayui> where do u find coal at ??
#1828 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> Stone
#1829 [19:28] <Scott> Federal Express is a private international company, TheNoodle.
#1830 [19:29] <Chrisray408> does anyone know if i could possibly get a brand new resources folder?]\
#1831 [19:30] <TheNoodle> "There are no UPS locations within 200 kilometres."
#1832 [19:30] <TheNoodle> And FedEx, is the same, I just checked.
#1833 [19:30] <Scott> quit living in the middle of no where
#1834 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Chrisray408 - Could you do a full uninstall/reinstall of java?
#1835 [19:31] <Chrisray408> no, i'm not an admin on this machine
#1836 [19:31] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, would you buy a book called "World War II through German Eyes?"
#1837 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> Erm, no?
#1838 [19:32] <TheNytangel> ...
#1839 [19:32] <Wug> TheNytangel: before you ask, no.
#1840 [19:32] <TheNytangel> :P
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#1842 [19:32] <TheNytangel> How about, "Revolution in Cuba"
#1843 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Chrisray408 - Then I don't know what else to tell you. Sharing minecraft files is against the ToS
#1844 [19:35] <TheNytangel> No?
#1845 [19:35] * GreyVulpine shakes head
#1845 [19:35] <Wug> Chrisray408: delete it and it will redownload itself
#1846 [19:35] <Wug> when next you open minecraft
#1847 [19:35] <Wug> if you're having trouble making it run, try the release candidate
#1848 [19:35] <Wug> :rc
#1849 [19:35] <WugBot> rc: The Minecraft 1.0 release candidates are not supported as they are known to be buggy and unstable. If you want to use them anyhow:
#1850 [19:35] <WugBot> rc: Minecraft 1.0 Release Candidate 2 Client: http://assets.minecraft.net/rc2/minecraft.jar -- Minecraft 1.0 Release Candidate 2 Server: http://assets.minecraft.net/rc2/minecraft_server.jar
#1851 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> Thinking java's corrupt for him, it's giving him..
#1852 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Could not create context
#1853 [19:36] <Wug> what os is he on
#1854 [19:36] <TheNytangel> How about "Watchdog and the Coyotes?"
#1855 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> Windows
#1856 [19:36] <Wug> derp.
#1857 [19:36] <TheNytangel> It looks like a child's book :)
#1858 [19:36] <Wug> org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsContextImplementation.nCreate
#1859 [19:37] <mollstam> oh hai
#1860 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> 'lo mollstam.
#1861 [19:37] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, not the child's book either?
#1862 [19:38] <mollstam> GreyVulpine: how's my favorite fox?
#1863 [19:38] * TehPinkyy [TehPinkyy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1864 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Great. Stressed. Got a job interview tomorrow.
#1865 [19:38] <Wug> sounds like fun
#1866 [19:38] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, what kind of books are you interested in?
#1867 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> I think putting down #minecrafthelp on his resume netted him a bonus.
#1868 [19:38] <Wug> TheNytangel: I'd say not atlases and history novels.
#1869 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> his/my
#1870 [19:39] <TheNytangel> Wug, what books are you interested in?
#1871 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Fiction.
#1872 [19:39] <mollstam> nice, what kind of job? :o
#1873 [19:39] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, then the watchdog and the coyotes would be perfect for you :D
#1874 [19:40] <Wug> mollstam: the login system has been unusually robust lately. what did you threaten it with to keep it working :o
#1875 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> Tier 1 Tech support, basically. Small IT shop, does consulting work.
#1876 [19:40] <mollstam> I was thinking of putting up some system requirements on minecraft.net, but I'm not sure where to draw the line, except for like, have a gpu!
#1877 [19:40] <Wug> 1GB of ram might be a good one
#1878 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> At least 1-1.5 gigs of RAM. dedicate graphics
#1879 [19:40] <mollstam> Wug: iterations, iterations, iterations, *snap, snap snap*
#1880 [19:41] <Wug> recommend 64 bit systems
#1881 [19:41] <mollstam> this due to the 32-bit out of memory cancer?
#1882 [19:41] <Wug> yeah
#1883 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Definitely. 64 bit OS is preferable, with 64 bit java.
#1884 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#1885 [19:41] <TheNytangel> And make sure they have a graphics card..
#1886 [19:41] <TheNytangel> *cough cough*
#1887 [19:41] <Wug> and did I mention graphica cards
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#1889 [19:41] <Wug> oh, also graphics cards.
#1890 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Intel graphics is alright, anything that's of the latter part of this decade
#1891 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> Just, not SiS, like we've seen :P
#1892 [19:42] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, will my new graphics card work?
#1893 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> Nope
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#1895 [19:42] <TheNytangel> Will I get to play with fancy graphics and smooth lighting?
#1896 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> Minecaft's too l33t for your video card
#1897 [19:42] <TheNytangel> D:
#1898 [19:42] * Wug prods GreyVulpine with mclol
#1898 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> Ow
#1899 [19:42] <Wug> thats on an sis card
#1900 [19:43] <Wug> I'm not sure exactly why it was working though -.-
#1901 [19:43] <mollstam> I don't have really good experience with intel chipsets ;<
#1902 [19:43] <Wug> for all intents and putposes it should not have
#1903 [19:43] <mollstam> (the built in graphics ones)
#1904 [19:43] <Wug> :mclol > mollstam (this might be the record for the suckiest computer that has ever played minecraft)
#1905 [19:43] <WugBot> mollstam: (mclol) http://wug.me/minecraft/mclol.png
#1906 [19:43] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, all the books that I'm going to be selling on ebay for my mom are her grandpa's... so I don't think they had much fiction back then
#1907 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> If it's on an intel chipset, that's from 2008+, there's a fair chance it'll work
#1908 [19:43] <Wug> even here, with all of the horrible pastebins I've seen, I have never seen one worse
#1909 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> 915/965 is where I draw the line at the oldest chipsets I know will run minecraft
#1910 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Anything before that, good luck.
#1911 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Oh, and no netbooks. *cough*
#1912 [19:45] <Wug> yeah, about that.
#1913 [19:45] <_fault> to that, i raise you my 1st gen p4 with nvidia vanta-16
#1914 [19:45] <mollstam> whatt
#1915 [19:45] <mollstam> voodoo? :O
#1916 [19:45] <Wug> _fault: pics or it didnt happen
#1917 [19:45] * TheNytangel has the nutcracker stuck in his head all of a sudden
#1917 [19:46] <Wug> mollstam: debuted in 1999
#1918 [19:46] <mollstam> TheNytangel: there's a cover for parts of the nutcracker sung by dogs. Could be worse you know
#1919 [19:46] <Wug> satate of the art, half my life ago
#1920 [19:47] <TheNytangel> mollstam, you'll be at minecon?
#1921 [19:47] <_fault> woah, mollstam's the mojang guy
#1922 [19:47] <TheNoodle> lolled
#1923 [19:48] <Wug> I'd assume so TheNoodle
#1924 [19:48] * GreyVulpine gasps.
#1924 [19:48] <TheNytangel> _fault, don't scare him off...
#1925 [19:48] <Wug> TheNytangel* (sorry TheNoodle
#1926 [19:48] <TheNoodle> Wuggggg.
#1927 [19:48] <TheNoodle> :p
#1928 [19:48] <_fault> /images/bg.png is missing, it's breaking the tumblr
#1929 [19:48] <mollstam> everybody hit the deck!
#1930 [19:48] <Wug> naturally, as soon as he leaves, the auth server will catch fire
#1931 [19:48] * TheNytangel hits the deck
#1931 [19:48] <TheNytangel> What?
#1932 [19:48] <mollstam> ofc
#1933 [19:49] <Wug> mollstam: you should just bring it with you
#1934 [19:49] <TheNytangel> Well while you're there, I'll be helping mibbits with their minecraft :)
#1935 [19:49] <Wug> or leave a robot in its room that you can control via skype :3
#1936 [19:49] <_fault> i'll try to be there and not copypaste the whole index
#1937 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> You know that once Mojang releases 1.0 at minecon, this channel will be absolutely flooded, the auth server will go down for days, and mibbit will run out of random names for all the people that join
#1938 [19:50] <Wug> 1) meh, 2) boo, 3) good
#1939 [19:50] <TheNoodle> :|
#1940 [19:50] <mollstam> GreyVulpine: as if!
#1941 [19:51] * GreyVulpine hehs
#1941 [19:51] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, lol
#1942 [19:51] <Wug> the thought on 1 million miblets makes my head spin
#1943 [19:51] <Wug> I think I might faint
#1944 [19:51] <mollstam> If shit don't go down, people won't think it's legit
#1945 [19:51] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1945 [19:51] <Wug> mollstam: you need to hang out more :3
#1946 [19:52] <Wug> gets boring here all alone with just GreyVulpine and miblets
#1947 [19:52] <Wug> and suddenly, Kealper
#1948 [19:52] <TheNytangel> And if I can get to the livestream page, I'll watch it all live
#1949 [19:52] <TheNoodle> ^
#1950 [19:53] <TheNytangel> I'm looking for it now
#1951 [19:53] <_fault> can't stop reading it as kepler
#1952 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> I swear, once I give helpful people @ here, they completely disappear off the face of the earth.
#1953 [19:53] <TheNytangel> Lol
#1954 [19:53] <TheNoodle> I have exams, otherwise I'd fork the 2.5k+ and come :P
#1955 [19:53] <TheNytangel> No wonder I'm not @ yet
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#1957 [19:53] <_fault> no, mib_39dn3, i wasn't talking to you.
#1958 [19:54] <Wug> GreyVulpine: you have the dedication of ... I don't even know
#1959 [19:54] <Wug> I dont know how you stand it
#1960 [19:54] <TheNytangel> mollstam, do you know the livestream link?
#1961 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Years of conditioning and psychiatric help.
#1962 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Also drugs, lots and lots of mind-bending drugs
#1963 [19:55] <_fault> you'll have to run the .exe file to install it.
#1964 [19:55] <TheNytangel> Wug, the dedication of... a dedicated server. And the patience of a boulder.
#1965 [19:55] <TheNytangel> _fault, who are you talking to?
#1966 [19:55] <Wug> oh hey, mollstam is on freenode too
#1967 [19:55] <Wug> I need to unleash wugbot on freenode
#1968 [19:56] <Wug> I'd know everyone who was in both places in like 5 minutes
#1969 [19:57] <mollstam> TheNytangel: I think it's http://www.ign.com/events/minecon
#1970 [19:58] <Wug> ;check aquinas.student.rit.edu
#1971 [19:58] <WugBot> aquinas.student.rit.edu:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Kealper is great :3 (0/20)
#1972 [19:58] <TheNytangel> I see no livestream there, but ok :)
#1973 [19:58] <mollstam> Yeah me neither :P
#1974 [19:59] <Chrisray408> hey well, it appears that my game is well and truly f****d
#1975 [19:59] <_fault> ;check minecraft.sdf.org
#1976 [19:59] <WugBot> minecraft.sdf.org:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Super Dimensional Fortress (1/20)
#1977 [19:59] <Wug> http://mojang.com/2011/11/04/minecon-live-streaming/
#1978 [19:59] <TheNytangel> Wug, now where is the livestream?
#1979 [19:59] <Wug> no idea
#1980 [19:59] * mib_03knes [mib_03knes@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1981 [20:00] <mib_03knes> Hi I have a question about Minecraft.
#1982 [20:00] <Wug> "More details coming soon."
#1983 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_03knes - We have answers.
#1984 [20:00] <Wug> mib_03knes: fire away
#1985 [20:00] <TheNoodle> Sorry mib_03knes, wrong channel.
#1986 [20:00] <TheNoodle> :(
#1987 [20:00] <TheNytangel> I'll probably be in school when its released, but who cares, I come home and help GreyVulpine control the miblets
#1988 [20:00] <TheNytangel> I'll probably be in school when its released, but who cares, I come home and help GreyVulpine control the miblets
#1989 [20:00] * mib_03knes [mib_03knes@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1990 [20:00] <_fault> i'll screen in from my phone :V
#1991 [20:00] <Wug> WugBot, kick TheNoodle
#1992 [20:00] * WugBot kicked TheNoodle from #minecrafthelp (Reason: heNoodle :TheNoodle)
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#1994 [20:00] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, great job
#1995 [20:01] <TheNoodle> Wow, I did not know this client had autojoin.
#1996 [20:01] <TheNoodle> Anyone know how to disable it in mirc?
#1997 [20:01] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, the options
#1998 [20:01] <Wug> install xchat
#1999 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> Erm, options
#2000 [20:01] * Wug arranges face into snrk
#2000 [20:01] <TheNytangel> WugBot, kick me
#2001 [20:02] <TheNytangel> No don't, I was just kidding
#2002 [20:02] <Wug> wugbot, kick everyone
#2003 [20:02] <WugBot> everyone is not in the channel.
#2004 [20:02] <WugBot> me is not in the channel.
#2005 [20:03] <Wug> ^ derp?
#2006 [20:03] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, what happens if I plug a flash drive into a charger..?
#2007 [20:03] <TheNoodle> Apparently.
#2008 [20:03] <Scott> it will come alive and eat you.
#2009 [20:03] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2010 [20:04] * mollstam hugs WugBot
#2010 [20:05] * WugBot hugs mollstam
#2010 [20:05] <mollstam> -_-
#2011 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Don't.. know
#2012 [20:05] <Scott> He likes you o:
#2013 [20:05] * TheNytangel hugs mollstam
#2013 [20:05] * Wug gives aubot all of his money
#2013 [20:05] <Wug> >:D
#2014 [20:05] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2015 [20:05] <TheNoodle> TheNytangel, want me to test? :P
#2016 [20:06] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, if you don't have a way to get mail, I'm sure you don't have hospitals. Better not
#2017 [20:06] <TheNoodle> Oh I can get mail, I just have no idea how people send it.
#2018 [20:06] <Scott> Nor a fire dept.
#2019 [20:06] <mollstam> TheNytangel: your data will obviously be accessible all over the grid!
#2020 [20:06] <TheNoodle> Trying now.
#2021 [20:06] <Wug> at a whopping rate of 60 buad.
#2022 [20:07] <_fault> haha, post in #minecraft and cause everyone to shit brix :V
#2023 [20:07] <TheNytangel> mollstam, there is nothing on it
#2024 [20:07] <Wug> thats almost 8 bytes per second!
#2025 [20:07] <TheNoodle> nothing is happening :p
#2026 [20:07] <Scott> i have an idea
#2027 [20:07] <Scott> connect usb drive to charger
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#2029 [20:07] <Scott> and then connect computer to usb charger
#2030 [20:07] <Scott> its kinda like that ethernet over power line thingy
#2031 [20:07] <Wug> Scott: then invert time.
#2032 [20:07] <Wug> infinite power@
#2033 [20:08] <Wug> entropy will power our cities
#2034 [20:08] <Scott> Houses should be insulated with 2tb drives
#2035 [20:08] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2036 [20:08] <TheNytangel> You ain't taking mine
#2037 [20:08] <Wug> theyre too expensive -.-
#2038 [20:09] <Wug> maybe in 6 months
#2039 [20:09] <Scott> I hope I get my mac setup again
#2040 [20:09] <Scott> This is driving me nuts
#2041 [20:10] <Scott> I do not like my dell inspiron anymore.
#2042 [20:10] <_fault> i don't like my ibm netvista anymore
#2043 [20:10] <Wug> Scott: degauss your firmware
#2044 [20:11] <Wug> *poof* password vanishes
#2045 [20:11] <Scott> It was reset yesterday, Wug.
#2046 [20:11] <Scott> My friend at Apple helped me with it so I didn't need to go to a retail store.
#2047 [20:12] <Scott> To remove the password, you need a signed file specifically generated for the logic board.
#2048 [20:12] <TheNytangel> Scott, I work at apple and happen to have one of those books that you needed earlier
#2049 [20:12] <TheNytangel> Jk, don't listen to me
#2050 [20:13] * ngc0202 [ngc0202@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2051 [20:13] <ngc0202> Howdy!
#2052 [20:14] * Valerie [Valerie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2053 [20:14] <ngc0202> I'm hosting a minecraft server from my PC (dedicated mainly to that) and for some reason it's not showing up publicly
#2054 [20:15] <Wug> port forwarding
#2055 [20:15] <_fault> forward your ports
#2056 [20:15] <Wug> ninjad
#2057 [20:15] <_fault> :ninja:
#2058 [20:15] <Wug> x2
#2059 [20:15] <ngc0202> They are forwarded!
#2060 [20:16] <ngc0202> I keep checking
#2061 [20:16] <Wug> are they forwarded to the right ip
#2062 [20:16] <Wug> if there is anything on the server-ip line, clear it
#2063 [20:16] <ngc0202> Checked ipconfig multiple times as well
#2064 [20:16] <ngc0202> there isn't
#2065 [20:16] <Wug> firewall?
#2066 [20:17] <TheNytangel> Now mollstam, I have a question for you
#2067 [20:17] <ngc0202> I don't think so, but I can look it over more thoroughly
#2068 [20:17] <Wug> you can check your own host with ;check
#2069 [20:17] <TheNytangel> mollstam, how did you get everyone's sounds updated without.. updating minecraft?
#2070 [20:17] <Wug> ;check
#2071 [20:17] <WugBot> wugserv.student.rit.edu:25565 is accepting connections.
#2072 [20:17] <Wug> theres no minecraft server there but the port is open
#2073 [20:18] <ngc0202> ;check
#2074 [20:18] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: c-67-189-167-232.hsd1.ny.comcast.net:25565 (Timed out)
#2075 [20:19] <ngc0202> The firewall is off...
#2076 [20:19] <ngc0202> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.117
#2077 [20:20] <Wug> ngc0202: all of them?
#2078 [20:20] <ngc0202> gah
#2079 [20:20] <ngc0202> What happened
#2080 [20:20] <Wug> ignore vox
#2081 [20:20] <ngc0202> All of what?
#2082 [20:20] <Wug> do you have more than one?
#2083 [20:21] <ngc0202> More than one forwards?
#2084 [20:21] <Wug> more than one firewall
#2085 [20:21] <ngc0202> ohhh
#2086 [20:21] <ngc0202> Yes
#2087 [20:21] <ngc0202> I turned off Norton and then checked Windows and it said it was being controlled by Norton, and also said off
#2088 [20:21] <mollstam> TheNytangel: launcher checks game assets online if they match, so sounds get updated across the board :v
#2089 [20:21] <Wug> ;check c-67-189-167-232.hsd1.ny.comcast.net:25565
#2090 [20:21] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: c-67-189-167-232.hsd1.ny.comcast.net:25565 (Timed out)
#2091 [20:21] <TheNytangel> Nifty
#2092 [20:22] <Wug> TheNytangel: I could have told you that
#2093 [20:22] <TheNytangel> But you didn't :P
#2094 [20:22] <ngc0202> ;check
#2095 [20:22] <WugBot> c-67-189-167-232.hsd1.ny.comcast.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: ngc0202's Server (0/5)
#2096 [20:22] <Wug> I didnt read the question because it wasnt addressed to me
#2097 [20:22] <mollstam> It's not the best thing for backwards compatability though
#2098 [20:22] <mollstam> but peh!
#2099 [20:22] <mollstam> : )
#2100 [20:22] <Wug> lol
#2101 [20:22] <ngc0202> I didn't change anything from when you did it to when I did it...
#2102 [20:22] <Wug> ngc0202: was the server not running
#2103 [20:22] <ngc0202> Been running the whole time
#2104 [20:23] <ngc0202> Since I joined the channel
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#2106 [20:23] <Wug> sometimes router settings take a minute to kick in
#2107 [20:23] <ngc0202> kay
#2108 [20:24] <ngc0202> can finally finish my farm :D
#2109 [20:25] <ngc0202> I hate this mouse though
#2110 [20:25] <ngc0202> It's one of those easy scroll things, and I can never finely scroll through things (like the bar at the bottom)
#2111 [20:25] <mollstam> playing minecraft with a magic mouse is scary
#2112 [20:26] <ngc0202> Is there any way to turn it off?
#2113 [20:26] <Wug> you might be able to turn the sensitivity down
#2114 [20:26] <Wug> I just use the number keys if I'm using a difficult mouse
#2115 [20:28] <ngc0202> ah, okay
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#2118 [20:31] <ngc0202> Is there any way to change the spawn location of a server?
#2119 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> With a map editor like MCedit, or a plugin like worldedit
#2120 [20:33] <eggy> both are fun, but dangrous if you don't know what you're doing
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#2123 [20:35] <Ajay222> help
#2124 [20:35] <VoxelHead> Ajay222: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#2125 [20:36] <shmoo> I keep getting a "java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect" on the client whenever it starts and it cannot connect to play online. Any help?
#2126 [20:36] <Ajay222> I was previously premium,but not anymore
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#2128 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> shmoo - Check your security software
#2129 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Ajay222 - Are you sure you're using the right account?
#2130 [20:37] <Ajay222> ues
#2131 [20:37] <Ajay222> yes
#2132 [20:37] <Ajay222> yes
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#2134 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Ajay222 - Did you buy minecraft from minecraft.net?
#2135 [20:37] <Ajay222> yes i have the receipt id to
#2136 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Ajay222 - Start by doing a http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename on all email addresses you normally use
#2137 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> It'll tell you what accounts are linked to what email address, and whether or not it's premium
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#2139 [20:39] <shmoo> Alright, I closed the firewall and it works now. Thanks
#2140 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> We get quite a few people who have multiple MC accounts, and don't know which one is paid for.
#2141 [20:40] <mollstam> GreyVulpine: I found the cause for his account, and we have some 1on1 time in pm <3
#2142 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> Oroo?
#2143 [20:41] <TheNoodle> mollstam, wanna just lurk here 24/7 for account issues? :P
#2144 [20:41] <ngc0202> damn
#2145 [20:41] <Wug> don't ... get any on the channe;
#2146 [20:41] <ngc0202> I just downloaded the 64 bit version
#2147 [20:41] <Wug> channel*
#2148 [20:41] <mollstam> Hmm, I think I've updated everything for Minecraft release now
#2149 [20:41] <mollstam> We shall see!
#2150 [20:41] <ngc0202> I forgot my PC is 32 bit -.-
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#2152 [20:41] <Ajay222> i got Accounts for ajaym664@yahoo.com: *ajay2223* Ajay222
#2153 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> !paid ajay2223
#2154 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> !paid ajay222
#2155 [20:41] <mollstam> Ajay222: you should read what I write to you in private chat : D
#2156 [20:42] <TheNytangel> mollstam, are you going to deal with account issues in here now? :)
#2157 [20:42] <mollstam> wrote, even!
#2158 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> !paid ajay222
#2159 [20:42] <Ajay222> i did paid
#2160 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Ajay222 - Check your private messages. Mollstam sent you one.
#2161 [20:42] <Wug> :payment/stopped > Ajay222
#2162 [20:42] <WugBot> Ajay222: (payment/stopped) Banks, credit card companies, etc. frequently stop minecraft purchases for your protection because they are international transactions. You may have to call your financial institution and ask that they approve the transfer.
#2163 [20:42] <WugBot> Ajay222: (payment/stopped) If you're not sure what to say, tell them: "I would like to make an international purchase and payment is being declined. How would I go about approving the purchase?"
#2164 [20:42] <Wug> its probably that
#2165 [20:43] <Wug> it usually is
#2166 [20:43] <TheNoodle> " Ajay222 : I was previously premium,but not anymore"
#2167 [20:43] <Wug> ooooh.
#2168 [20:43] <Wug> umm.
#2169 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> ^ usually is from non-minecraft.net sources, or they forgot username that's premium
#2170 [20:43] <Wug> :scam
#2171 [20:43] <WugBot> scam: Do not buy minecraft from anywhere except http://minecraft.net There is a high probability that the gift code you purchase will later be disabled.
#2172 [20:43] <WugBot> scam: This scam is possible because it is possible to perform a chargeback on the payment made for the gift code. This results in the money being transferred back into the buyers account and Mojang disabling the gift code.
#2173 [20:43] <Scott> I wonder if Mojang took that site down that selling stolen acccounts.
#2174 [20:43] <mollstam> Ajay222: Yeah we received a chargeback notice on your payment, which usually means that the money came back to your account because of the bank doing stuff, so your account got un-premiumized
#2175 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> But they bought it from minecraft.net
#2176 [20:44] <Ajay222> ???
#2177 [20:44] <Wug> Ajay222: where did you buy minecraft from? was it minecraft.net?
#2178 [20:44] <Ajay222> yes
#2179 [20:45] <Wug> then I have no idea why it was chargebacked
#2180 [20:45] <Scott> Oooh
#2181 [20:45] <Wug> call your bank and ask about it
#2182 [20:45] <TheNoodle> Ajay222, how did you pay for minecraft?
#2183 [20:45] <Scott> that site says it's closed now but will relaunch soon lol
#2184 [20:45] <_fault> wrong channel
#2185 [20:45] <Wug> mollstam: is this sanctioned? http://minecraftedu.com/
#2186 [20:46] <Ajay222> by masercard or visa
#2187 [20:46] <ngc0202> hmm, I got MCEdit
#2188 [20:46] <Wug> Ajay222: call the credit card company then
#2189 [20:46] <Scott> Wug, it is.
#2190 [20:46] <Scott> One of the Mojangers tweeted about it
#2191 [20:46] <ngc0202> And it doesn't appear to edit server files
#2192 [20:46] <Wug> Scott: I want to hear him say it
#2193 [20:46] <mollstam> Wug: yes! I think so at least, I know there are some Finnish dudes bringing mc to schools who have a discount, looks like them
#2194 [20:47] <Wug> ok then.
#2195 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> mollstam - Hey, do you know if this is an official mac version of the minecraft demo? http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Games/Minecraft.shtml
#2196 [20:47] <Wug> someone should post something on the mojang blog about it, there are no references to it anywhere
#2197 [20:48] <Scott> There is on twitter :(
#2198 [20:48] <Wug> I searched one time and didnt find anything
#2199 [20:48] <Wug> and I dont exactly put much faith in twitter
#2200 [20:48] <Wug> ugh.
#2201 [20:49] <Wug> I have an essay I have to write. I'll be back later. I really have to stop distracting myself
#2202 [20:49] * Wug kicked Wug from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ug :esay)
#2203 [20:49] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2203 [20:49] <_fault> ;ding
#2204 [20:49] <WugBot> _fault: ding
#2205 [20:49] <mollstam> GreyVulpine: The download is https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip
#2206 [20:49] <mollstam> so wouldn't call it a demo : P
#2207 [20:50] <ngc0202> GreyVulpine: How do you open server files in MCEdit?
#2208 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Oh, pfft.
#2209 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> ngc0202 - Just open the level.dat in the /world/ directory
#2210 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> That'll open the world on the server. Remember to shut off the server before you edit it though
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#2212 [20:54] <LJ> I am having problems logging in.
#2213 [20:55] <LJ> The game does not take my password. I have reset it twice.
#2214 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> What error message are you getting?
#2215 [20:56] <mollstam> Can you log in to www.minecraft.net?
#2216 [20:56] <LJ> password not found
#2217 [20:56] <LJ> yes
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#2219 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> LJ - Are you getting this message in the launcher?
#2220 [20:57] <LJ> no
#2221 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Where are you getting "Password not found"?
#2222 [20:58] <LJ> when I try to log in
#2223 [20:58] <LJ> it takes my user name but not my password
#2224 [21:00] <mollstam> LJ: would you mind uploading a screenshot of this?
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#2227 [21:03] <mib_o34u3b> anyone know why the minecraft beta 1.8 on mac does not launch?
#2228 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_o34u3b - What version of OSX are you running?
#2229 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> There's a known incompatibility with 10.5.8 and earlier versions
#2230 [21:04] <mib_o34u3b> ugh
#2231 [21:04] <mib_o34u3b> 10.5.8
#2232 [21:04] <mollstam> It could also be bad permissions on the executable ;o
#2233 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it'll be addressed in 1.0, released at minecon in a few days.
#2234 [21:04] <Dyn4m1c> ah mollstam there is a slight bug / graphic glitch on the website
#2235 [21:05] <mollstam> Dyn4m1c: go on!
#2236 [21:05] <Dyn4m1c> on the buy a giftcode part all the countries are slightly grey i.e hard to read
#2237 [21:05] <mollstam> Dyn4m1c: hmm, right, is this chrome?
#2238 [21:05] <Dyn4m1c> nope firefox 7.0.1
#2239 [21:05] <mib_o34u3b> thanks
#2240 [21:05] <mib_o34u3b> is the executable the jar files in the library path or some launcher/shell?
#2241 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> mib_o34u3b - The launcher, found at minecraft.net/download
#2242 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> The actual minecraft.jar, containing the game files, is located at ~/Library/Application support/minecraft/*
#2243 [21:07] <mollstam> mib_o34u3b: what happens when you try to launch it?
#2244 [21:09] <mib_o34u3b> i get past login, it appears to be loading and then when it supposed to 'draw' the world all i get is a black screen...
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#2246 [21:09] <mollstam> well it's not file permissions at least! D:
#2247 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's the OpenGL 1.3/OSX 10.5.8 thingy
#2248 [21:10] <mib_o34u3b> yeah i checked at there is exec flags on the minecraft.jar - sigh
#2249 [21:10] <mib_o34u3b> is there a place I can get the 1.6 pckage?
#2250 [21:10] <mib_o34u3b> couldn't find it...
#2251 [21:10] <mib_o34u3b> at least till this gets fixed :-)
#2252 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> You can try the RC2 of 1.0...
#2253 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> ?? rc
#2254 [21:11] <VoxelHead> rc: The Minecraft 1.0 release candidates are not supported as they are known to be buggy and unstable. If you want to use them anyhow:
#2255 [21:11] <VoxelHead> rc: Minecraft 1.0 Release Candidate 2 Client: http://assets.minecraft.net/rc2/minecraft.jar -- Minecraft 1.0 Release Candidate 2 Server: http://assets.minecraft.net/rc2/minecraft_server.jar
#2256 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Place minecraft.jar in your ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft/bin folder, overwriting the 1.8.1 minecraft.jar in there
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#2258 [21:11] <mib_o34u3b> trying....
#2259 [21:12] <mollstam> mib_o34u3b: I don't believe we can promise support for Tiger :/
#2260 [21:12] * mib_3zl9dd [mib_3zl9dd@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2261 [21:12] <fault> that's leopard
#2262 [21:13] <fault> i know someone who plays minecraft on tiger, though.
#2263 [21:16] <mib_o34u3b> guys - thanks, that did it, VERY much appreciated!!
#2264 [21:17] <TheNoodle> \o/
#2265 [21:17] <mollstam> fault: right! meant leopard : )
#2266 [21:17] <mollstam> mib_o34u3b: sweet
#2267 [21:17] <mib_o34u3b> you da man!
#2268 [21:17] <mib_o34u3b> later gents....
#2269 [21:18] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Having trouble launching minecraft. I experience crash right after I log in
#2270 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> Sigilus_Sanctus - Do you get any error reports? Any crash logs?
#2271 [21:19] <Sigilus_Sanctus> No. I log in, loading screen appears, screen turns black, then it crashes.
#2272 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Crashes how? Does the program disappear, or just stay at the black screen?
#2273 [21:20] <Sigilus_Sanctus> zkxs tried helping me a few hours ago before I had to leave but we couldn't figure it out; and no the screen just abruptly closes
#2274 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> Where do you have the launcher downloaded to?
#2275 [21:21] <Sigilus_Sanctus> C:\Documents and Settings\owner\Application Data\.minecraft
#2276 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> That's where minecraft downloads its files to. I meant, where did you download minecraft.exe to?
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#2278 [21:22] <Sigilus_Sanctus> GreyVulpine Oh. Let me check just real quick
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#2280 [21:25] <Sigilus_Sanctus> C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Shared Documents
#2281 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> Alright. In that directory, do you see any files starting with hs_err_pid?
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#2283 [21:27] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Holy crap there are a lot
#2284 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Those would be error logs. Could you go into the latest one there, copy the contents of it, paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it?
#2285 [21:27] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Sure
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#2287 [21:30] <Sigilus_Sanctus> http://pastebin.com/M4PV9HJu
#2288 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Looks like, your ATI video drivers... but you're also running a very old version of java, 5.
#2289 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Could you update to Java 6, and look into updating your ATI video drivers?
#2290 [21:31] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Yeah my video card is old as dirt. There are no current drivers for it so I need to use outdated ones
#2291 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Has minecraft worked before? What ATI video card are you running?
#2292 [21:32] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Yes. It's worked pretty well actually. ATI Radeon 9700 I do believe
#2293 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Did this occur before or after updating to 1.8.1?
#2294 [21:33] <Sigilus_Sanctus> After
#2295 [21:33] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Even then though, I was able to play for awhile
#2296 [21:35] <ngc0202> hey
#2297 [21:35] <ngc0202> what happened to BigBrother? :o
#2298 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, the error report shows the ATI openGL driver being at fault. Did you use any mods at all?
#2299 [21:35] <Sigilus_Sanctus> SkyBlock 1.1
#2300 [21:36] <Sigilus_Sanctus> Sorry gtg afk for a bit, brb
#2301 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Sigilus_Sanctus - Could you revert back to vanilla minecraft, see if that helps any?
#2302 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> ngc0202 - No idea, bukkit plugin?
#2303 [21:36] <ngc0202> Yeah
#2304 [21:36] <ngc0202> I just asked in #bukkit
#2305 [21:36] * GreyVulpine nods
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#2307 [21:47] <morton> i just buy this game and can't play it it has a x on the top left screan help
#2308 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> Make sure Java is installed from java.com
#2309 [21:49] <zkxs> openjava ftw?
#2310 [21:56] <mollstam> Dyn4m1c: I've pushed a fix for the visual defect, but won't be deployed until friday
#2311 [22:08] <fault> are you planning on fixing /images/bg.png? that'd be cool.
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#2313 [22:11] <mollstam> fault: where is that being used?
#2314 [22:12] <fault> whoops
#2315 [22:12] <fault> http://www.minecraft.net/img/bg.gif
#2316 [22:12] <fault> http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/
#2317 [22:12] <fault> i was a bit off on the url, eh
#2318 [22:12] <mollstam> I see!
#2319 [22:13] <mollstam> Think I'll just change the link instead
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#2321 [22:15] <mollstam> fault: fixed
#2322 [22:17] <fault> looks a little nicer now :V
#2323 [22:17] <Dyn4m1c> The launcher looks quite nice now with the propper background on now.
#2324 [22:21] <Sigilus_Sanctus> GreyVulpine I'm back
#2325 [22:22] <Sigilus_Sanctus> I tried running it Vanilla. I deleted SkyBlock. I even deleted everything except my save and texturepacks and redownloaded it
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#2327 [22:25] <sprog> How can I play minecraft on a computer with no Internet ?
#2328 [22:25] <xales> Download the game while you are connected to the Internet, then just play it, when it fails to connect click play offline
#2329 [22:26] <sprog> Well the computer needs hardware to run on Internet with I currently can not get
#2330 [22:28] <sprog> Can I download it to a USB and put it on the computer with no Internet ??
#2331 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#2333 [22:32] <mib_4jss27> How can I play minecraft on a computer wih no Internet access
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#2337 [22:34] <peeves> How can I play minecraft on a computer with no Internet access at all??
#2338 [22:34] <jmv1999> minecraft crashes to black screen at "simulating world for a bit" - any ideas?
#2339 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> peeves - Go onto a computer where you have internet access, run minecraft. Copy the minecraft folder where it downloads its files to, and move it over to the computer that doesn't have internet access.
#2340 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> jmv1999 - What operaing system are you on?
#2341 [22:34] <jmv1999> xp 32
#2342 [22:34] <peeves> Windows xp
#2343 [22:34] <peeves> Yup
#2344 [22:34] <jmv1999> yes
#2345 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> jmv1999 - Has it worked before?
#2346 [22:35] <jmv1999> yes then stopped
#2347 [22:35] <peeves> Idk
#2348 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> peeves - Go onto a computer where you have internet access, run minecraft. Copy the minecraft folder where it downloads its files to, and move it over to the computer that doesn't have internet access.
#2349 [22:35] <jmv1999> tried everything - java, .bat...
#2350 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> jmv1999 - Go to your start menu, type in the Run command: %appdata%
#2351 [22:35] <peeves> Oh I know the files in .minecraft right
#2352 [22:35] <jmv1999> yes
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#2354 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft files, delete everything except for saves. Then run minecraft again
#2355 [22:35] <peeves> Yay thank you
#2356 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> peeves -Yes
#2357 [22:36] <jmv1999> done - dumped the bin folder...
#2358 [22:36] <jmv1999> sorry - dumped the alll folders
#2359 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> jmv1999 - Now run minecraft again
#2360 [22:36] <jmv1999> tried that too
#2361 [22:36] <jmv1999> no luck
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#2363 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> jmv1999 - Does it redownload those files?
#2364 [22:38] <jmv1999> yes it does
#2365 [22:39] <jmv1999> any idea on why at that point during start up that it crashes?
#2366 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> Most common cause is modding, but since you already deleted those files in .minecraft...
#2367 [22:41] <jmv1999> sorry....modding?
#2368 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, modifying minecraft with third-party code.
#2369 [22:41] <jmv1999> gotcha
#2370 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Was there a reason why you had the .bat file to launch minecraft?
#2371 [22:43] <jmv1999> it was suggested to diagnose any problems with the app
#2372 [22:43] <jmv1999> located in same directory as .exe
#2373 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Ah, does it return any errors in the black command prompt window?
#2374 [22:44] <jmv1999> just an error that it cannot fine the exe file - which is wierd
#2375 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Is minecraft.exe named minecraft.exe?
#2376 [22:45] <jmv1999> yes
#2377 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Or do you have any numbers after it?
#2378 [22:45] <zkxs> just modify the batch file to make it drag
#2379 [22:45] <zkxs> 'n drop
#2380 [22:45] <jmv1999> no numbers -
#2381 [22:46] <jmv1999> how do you mod the batch? or is that not directed at me?
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#2383 [22:48] <androm> I've tried saving my level but it never shows up again.
#2384 [22:48] <zkxs> a batch file containing the line: @java -jar %1 > errorlog.txt should work if you drag'n drop minecraft.jar (the laucher) onto it
#2385 [22:49] <androm> on the classic online version?
#2386 [22:49] <zkxs> sorry androm, that wasn't directed towards you.
#2387 [22:50] <xales> androm: You can't save using classic any more, AFAIK
#2388 [22:50] <androm> thanks.
#2389 [22:52] <jmv1999> zkxs - thanks...i little above my ability i think :)
#2390 [22:52] <zkxs> jmv1999: right click the .bat file and select edit
#2391 [22:52] <jmv1999> ahhh
#2392 [22:53] <zkxs> it is only a txt file with a weird extension
#2393 [22:53] * GreyVulpine is going to call it an early night, interview tomorrow.
#2393 [22:53] * zkxs steals GV's signature move and nods
#2393 [22:54] * GreyVulpine eyerolls.
#2393 [22:54] <jmv1999> tyring...
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#2395 [22:55] <zkxs> jmv1999: do you use the .exe launcher? I don't believe it will work with that...
#2396 [22:55] <jmv1999> same error but dont know if i did it correctly - will keep trying. copy and paste your text into the text file?
#2397 [22:56] <zkxs> jmv1999: you could make a new .bat file
#2398 [22:56] <jmv1999> yes i do use .exe
#2399 [22:56] <zkxs> jmv1999: what OS are you on?
#2400 [22:56] <jmv1999> xp 32
#2401 [22:56] <jmv1999> xp pro
#2402 [22:56] <zkxs> cool, i'm very familiar w/ that
#2403 [22:57] <zkxs> jmv1999: download this launcher, and save it to your desktop or something: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#2404 [22:57] <jmv1999> will do
#2405 [22:59] <zkxs> jmv1999: do you have file extensions visible?
#2406 [22:59] <zkxs> (file extensions are .exe, .jar, .txt, .bat, .etc)
#2407 [23:00] <jmv1999> yes
#2408 [23:00] * zkxs approves of this
#2408 [23:00] <zkxs> on your desktop, right click and make a new text file
#2409 [23:00] <jmv1999> tried it - moved .bat to desktop - drag n drop jar file - same error - file not found
#2410 [23:01] <jmv1999> right ckick jar file?
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#2412 [23:01] <zkxs> edit the .bat file and make the ONLY line say @java -jar %1 > errorlog.txt
#2413 [23:01] <jmv1999> ahhhh
#2414 [23:01] <zkxs> we don't need the other lines
#2415 [23:01] <zkxs> now try drag'n drop
#2416 [23:02] <zkxs> if all went well, errorlog.txt should appear on your desktop
#2417 [23:02] <zkxs> it should contain copious amounts of computer jargon
#2418 [23:03] <zkxs> in which the nature of your problem is cleverly hidden
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#2421 [23:04] <jmv1999> errorlog file showed up in diff directory with no text
#2422 [23:04] <zkxs> ... that is weird
#2423 [23:05] <zkxs> go edit the .bat file and make it say: @java -jar %1 & @pause
#2424 [23:05] <zkxs> then try again
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#2426 [23:07] <jmv1999> tried it - app launched - same crash. should i look for something?
#2427 [23:07] <zkxs> jmv1999: what showed up in the black window?
#2428 [23:09] <jmv1999> of minecraft? loose mouse for a moment, error msg flashes but cannot be read
#2429 [23:09] <zkxs> there should be a black windows that wasn't minecraft that popped up
#2430 [23:09] <jmv1999> trying again
#2431 [23:10] <jmv1999> "press any key to continue..."
#2432 [23:10] <jmv1999> :(
#2433 [23:10] <zkxs> is that it?
#2434 [23:11] <jmv1999> yea - is that the.bat file that pops up?
#2435 [23:11] <zkxs> ... wow... that means minecraft is outputting absolutely nothing...
#2436 [23:11] <jmv1999> like me
#2437 [23:11] <zkxs> have you updated jave yet?
#2438 [23:11] <zkxs> *java
#2439 [23:11] <jmv1999> complete uninstalled and redownloaded
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#2441 [23:12] <jmv1999> java that s
#2442 [23:12] <jmv1999> is
#2443 [23:14] <jmv1999> i do get a bunch of text if i JUST launch the bat file - without draggin gand dropping
#2444 [23:14] <zkxs> oh... could you do that and give me the text via pastebin?
#2445 [23:15] <zkxs> the purpose of this whole batch file thing was to try to get us some text to look at
#2446 [23:15] <jmv1999> i think i can - sorry...pastebin? how?
#2447 [23:16] <zkxs> ?? pastebin
#2448 [23:16] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2449 [23:16] <|Kiikun|> said text may have pointers to problem :P
#2450 [23:17] <zkxs> pointers!? http://xkcd.com/138/
#2451 [23:18] <jmv1999> http://pastebin.com/Ta1hzeKU
#2452 [23:19] <jmv1999> u guys are too smart - one of you should run for pres...
#2453 [23:19] <zkxs> hmm... that isn't exactly the bunch of text we are looking for...
#2454 [23:20] <zkxs> jmv1999: would you like to try remote desktop?
#2455 [23:20] <jmv1999> try this one... http://pastebin.com/fGS28FVa
#2456 [23:21] <zkxs> jmv1999: that is instructions on how to use the java command, we are looking for minecraft error output
#2457 [23:21] <zkxs> I suspect the batch file is the culprit
#2458 [23:21] <jmv1999> ok - i tyied the first batch instruction you offered
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#2460 [23:22] <zkxs> jmv1999: do you want to try remote desktop?
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#2462 [23:23] <zkxs> I'm not sure what's wrong with the batch file, and I cant experiment as i'm on linux
#2463 [23:24] <zkxs> if you don't want to do that we can try using command prompt instead...
#2464 [23:24] <jmv1999> i will try downloading a new one
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#2466 [23:25] <amphiboly> how do I use a bucket of water to extinguish the fire when I'm on fire?
#2467 [23:25] <zkxs> It looks to me as if my batch file isn't working, i don't think it is a bad download that is the problem
#2468 [23:25] <zkxs> amphiboly: just right click to drop a water block, then jump into it
#2469 [23:25] <jmv1999> i agree
#2470 [23:26] <zkxs> jmv1999: do you want to try command prompt?
#2471 [23:26] <jmv1999> sure
#2472 [23:26] <zkxs> press Win + R then type cmd and press enter
#2473 [23:26] <zkxs> a hackery-looking black window should appear
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#2475 [23:27] <jmv1999> there
#2476 [23:27] <zkxs> if you want to make it look like the matrix, you can type 'color f0' and press enter
#2477 [23:27] <zkxs> (no quotes)
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#2479 [23:27] <zkxs> ... actually, it is color 0a
#2480 [23:28] <jmv1999> yes matrix
#2481 [23:28] <zkxs> my bad... but now we need to navigate to your desktop. use the command: cd %userprofile%\desktop
#2482 [23:29] <zkxs> the text to the right of the >_ should now be the path to your desktop
#2483 [23:30] <zkxs> amirite?
#2484 [23:30] <jmv1999> bare with me...
#2485 [23:30] <zkxs> oh, you can paste by right clicking the black window and selecting 'paste'
#2486 [23:31] <jmv1999> sorry - userprofile?
#2487 [23:31] <zkxs> yep
#2488 [23:31] <jmv1999> i need to replace that with "adniminstrator"
#2489 [23:32] <zkxs> nope, that is a valid command i gave you
#2490 [23:32] <zkxs> or it should be...
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#2492 [23:32] <jmv1999> got it - sorry - there...
#2493 [23:33] <zkxs> the text to the right of the >_ should now be the path to your desktop
#2494 [23:33] <jmv1999> it is
#2495 [23:33] <zkxs> is the minecraft.jar file on your desktop?
#2496 [23:33] <amphiboly> is this channel mostly for tech problems, or are general minecraft play questions ok?
#2497 [23:34] <jmv1999> yes it is
#2498 [23:34] <zkxs> amphiboly: general minecraft play problems are fine, someone will help you
#2499 [23:34] <zkxs> jmv1999: is it all lowercase?
#2500 [23:34] <jmv1999> yes
#2501 [23:34] <zkxs> run this command: java -jar minecraft.jar
#2502 [23:35] <amphiboly> the last time I was on fire ther was no place to throw water that it would accumulate
#2503 [23:36] <|Kiikun|> amphiboly: put water on ground and walk into it?
#2504 [23:36] <zkxs> amphiboly: as long as you aren't in the nether, you can place water anywhere like a normal block... i just runs everywhere
#2505 [23:36] <zkxs> *it
#2506 [23:36] <|Kiikun|> yeah... nether = instaevep of water.
#2507 [23:36] <jmv1999> app launched - crashed - cmd prompt did not update - showing "desktop" path still
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#2509 [23:36] <|Kiikun|> or... 'oh you want water.... DENIED!'
#2510 [23:36] <|Kiikun|> like exploding beds :P
#2511 [23:37] <amphiboly> I keep getting burnt up by lava
#2512 [23:37] <zkxs> jmv1999: try this one then, copy/paste would be a good idea: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2513 [23:37] <|Kiikun|> amphiboly: you in nether i asume then?
#2514 [23:38] <amphiboly> no, just messing with lava in mines
#2515 [23:38] <amphiboly> there's a diamond near that lava and I try to mine it
#2516 [23:38] <|Kiikun|> ah :3
#2517 [23:39] <|Kiikun|> amphiboly: to get resources near lava.. i usually just bridge and platform outthe lava
#2518 [23:39] <jmv1999> here you go... http://pastebin.com/zWdJ7vjN
#2519 [23:39] <amphiboly> my controls lag so much, I constantly mis-step
#2520 [23:40] <zkxs> jmv1999: thank goodness we finally got something to work with
#2521 [23:40] <|Kiikun|> amphiboly: maybe lower your settings? or close other high-resource apps?
#2522 [23:40] <jmv1999> you are an effing patient genious
#2523 [23:41] <amphiboly> making a bridge or ledge means having controls that don't lag too much
#2524 [23:42] <|Kiikun|> zkxs: you seen his dxdiag yet? it might be the same prob as mac/10.5.8.
#2525 [23:42] <zkxs> jmv1999: how much ram do you have?
#2526 [23:42] <jmv1999> 2GB
#2527 [23:43] <zkxs> jmv1999: in your matrix console could you use the command: systeminfo
#2528 [23:44] <zkxs> jmv1999: it will output a whole lot of stuff, but up near the top there will be a line reading "Total Physical Memory: blah"
#2529 [23:44] <zkxs> what is blah?
#2530 [23:44] <amphiboly> kikun I kill other programs before starting minecraft
#2531 [23:45] <zkxs> jmv1999: while you at it, find out what your available physical memory is too. it should be the next line down
#2532 [23:45] <jmv1999> ok i can - how do i get out of the minecraft dump?
#2533 [23:46] <jmv1999> 1.43GB
#2534 [23:46] <zkxs> and what is the available physical memory? (next line down)
#2535 [23:47] <jmv1999> total pysical memory 1.471mb
#2536 [23:47] <amphiboly> I don't understand why I fall off ledges when I sneak with the SHIFT key. unless laggy controls are the issue
#2537 [23:47] <jmv1999> available is 512mb
#2538 [23:47] <zkxs> aha
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#2540 [23:48] <amphiboly> that makes building bridges and extending ledges dangerous
#2541 [23:48] <zkxs> jmv1999: do this: java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2542 [23:49] <lily> hello
#2543 [23:49] <|Kiikun|> hello flowerchild :D
#2544 [23:49] <|Kiikun|> hows the sun up there in light-land?
#2545 [23:50] <amphiboly> I was trying to bridge over lava last time I got incinerated
#2546 [23:51] <jmv1999> trouble pasting...what can i look for?
#2547 [23:51] <amphiboly> sometimes sneak prevents me from falling off
#2548 [23:51] <zkxs> pastebin isn't working?
#2549 [23:51] <amphiboly> sometimes not
#2550 [23:51] <jmv1999> can paste latest dump - wierd
#2551 [23:51] <|Kiikun|> amphiboly: sneak, if held, prevents you from falling off the edge of a block. you can go down or up stairs or halfslabes though
#2552 [23:52] <zkxs> jmv1999: i suppose you figured out how to copy from command prompt? and how the up arrow recalls the last command?
#2553 [23:52] <jmv1999> got it.... http://pastebin.com/G61S1kNR
#2554 [23:53] <zkxs> jmv1999: oh, you aren't on the desktop any more... do 'cd desktop' then try again
#2555 [23:54] <|Kiikun|> :P
#2556 [23:55] <jmv1999> think i did it right.... http://pastebin.com/47ttdjJv
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#2558 [23:57] <zkxs> jmv1999: you did it right, and ram must not be your issue.
#2559 [23:58] <|Kiikun|> zkxs: try video drivers?
#2560 [23:58] <zkxs> this is the issue--> java.lang.IllegalStateException: Function is not supported at org.lwjgl.BufferChecks.checkFunctionAddress(BufferChecks.java:64)
#2561 [23:58] * |Kiikun| has an incling that thats it
#2561 [23:59] <zkxs> I need to go to bed now, it is 11PM here and school tomorrow... |Kiikun|, would you mind taking over?
#2562 [23:59] <|Kiikun|> eh. sure.
#2563 [23:59] <zkxs> thanks
#2564 [23:59] <|Kiikun|> its midnight here :P
#2565 [23:59] <jmv1999> thanks!!
#2566 [23:59] <zkxs> :3