#1 [00:00] <Jovet> !check
#2 [00:00] <Silent> What IP does !check if you don't enter one...
#3 [00:00] <scotty> !check
#4 [00:00] <Jovet> the person who types it
#5 [00:00] <|Kiikun|> yours
#6 [00:00] <Jovet> !check
#7 [00:01] <|Kiikun|> scotty: :3
#8 [00:01] <Silent> Apparently not...
#9 [00:01] <Silent> If scotty used it, shouldn't it say "114.183.26.211"?
#10 [00:02] <Jovet> !check 114.183-26-211
#11 [00:02] <Jovet> !check 114.183.26.211
#12 [00:03] <Jovet> I killed it :(
#13 [00:04] <Silent> Good job.
#14 [00:04] <Jovet> well at least we know what causes the dreaded "Server Key" error now
#15 [00:04] <Silent> What does?
#16 [00:04] <Jovet> !paid Jovet
#17 [00:04] <Silent> !paid Silent_Samurai
#18 [00:04] <Jovet> it's a signed/unsigned integer problem with the key number that the server uses to internally handle connection authetnication
#19 [00:04] <Silent> But its not fixed or...
#20 [00:05] <Jovet> http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/mkjqs/bukkit_has_fixed_the_invalid_server_key_problem/
#21 [00:05] <Jovet> no but the Bukkit people figured it out so they will likely have it fixed before Mojang
#22 [00:09] <Wug> ;cycle
#23 [00:09] <Wug> ;cycle
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#28 [00:13] <SpankingSpoon> Biome shading not happening. Any suggestions?
#29 [00:13] <Jovet> Biome shading ?explain
#30 [00:13] <scotty> Thanks |kiikun| u da best!
#31 [00:13] <|Kiikun|> scotty: no prob :D
#32 [00:13] <Wug> ;cycle
#33 [00:13] <Wug> ;cycle
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#36 [00:13] <|Kiikun|> SpankingSpoon: using a texture pack?
#37 [00:14] <SpankingSpoon> I made a Painterly pack with biome compliant vines and other things, and they all show up grey and all of my trees are the same color, etc.
#38 [00:14] <|Kiikun|> SpankingSpoon: it might be the painterly pack doesnt have the right graph-image for biome shadings
#39 [00:15] <Jovet> ahhh there's a .png for that isn't there? a 2-d plotting of different shaes for stuff
#40 [00:15] <|Kiikun|> yup
#41 [00:15] <SpankingSpoon> Hm, should I pull that out and try something else? Yeah, Jovet.
#42 [00:15] <|Kiikun|> SpankingSpoon: probably
#43 [00:15] <SpankingSpoon> What would you reccomend?
#44 [00:15] <|Kiikun|> default? :D
#45 [00:16] * |Kiikun| hasnt used texture packs :P
#45 [00:16] <SpankingSpoon> But my armor will be cyan and not diamond! D:
#46 [00:17] <SpankingSpoon> *crycrycry*
#47 [00:17] <Jovet> my suggestion would be to find those needed files in the main .jar and copy them to your texture pack
#48 [00:17] <Jovet> dunno if that will help but should try it
#49 [00:17] <|Kiikun|> it should
#50 [00:18] <|Kiikun|> woudl give you the default shadings
#51 [00:18] <Jovet> now let's see if I'm awesome enough to remember where they are/find them...
#52 [00:18] <SpankingSpoon> Well I switched to default but alas, still no shading.
#53 [00:19] <|Kiikun|> ...?
#54 [00:19] <Jovet> 1.0.0?
#55 [00:19] <SpankingSpoon> Yessir.
#56 [00:19] <|Kiikun|> huh...
#57 [00:19] <|Kiikun|> forceupdate? :D
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#59 [00:20] <SpankingSpoon> Will try
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#61 [00:21] <mib_5y9rog> ok i ned help on mine -craft umm by that i mean my java or sum-thin keeps send me a error keeps accruing
#62 [00:21] <|Kiikun|> :pastebin > mib_5y9rog
#63 [00:21] <WugBot> mib_5y9rog: (pastebin) Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#64 [00:21] * |Kiikun| needs to go to bed x.x
#64 [00:21] <SpankingSpoon> I'm in a swamp and my water is bright blue.
#65 [00:21] <SpankingSpoon> Still no shading. This just bugs me.
#66 [00:21] <mib_5y9rog> ook
#67 [00:22] <|Kiikun|> SpankingSpoon: that sounds more like its in 1.8...
#68 [00:22] <mib_5y9rog> i still need help
#69 [00:22] <SpankingSpoon> ....So Mojang had shading in 1.8 but not full-release?
#70 [00:22] <Jovet> well the files I'm thinking of are in the "misc" folder in the .jar
#71 [00:22] <|Kiikun|> SpankingSpoon: no i mean the blue water in swamps was in 1.8
#72 [00:22] <Wug> no, the other way around
#73 [00:23] <SpankingSpoon> Oh!
#74 [00:23] <Wug> (what |Kiikun| said)
#75 [00:23] <|Kiikun|> SpankingSpoon: the pres made swamps ald dark and moody and bleck
#76 [00:23] <mib_5y9rog> ook um
#77 [00:23] <Jovet> mib_5y9rog: I dind't understand that, please write in English
#78 [00:23] * |Kiikun| is waiting for the pastebin link from the mib
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#79 [00:25] <Jovet> I don't think he understood your instructions
#80 [00:25] <SpankingSpoon> So I have 1.0.0, fresh .jar, no other forms of feculants and I still have no shading. This is gay. I am not terrible with Minecraft mechanic stuff, but I am not pro either.
#81 [00:25] <SpankingSpoon> A mouse just ran across my floor, how quaint.
#82 [00:25] <Wug> SpankingSpoon: I had a flying squirrel yesterday
#83 [00:25] <|Kiikun|> the mouse stole your shading... :P sorry.
#84 [00:25] * Jovet thinks SpankingSpoon is actually Tom Baker.
#84 [00:26] <Wug> beat that
#85 [00:26] <SpankingSpoon> Wug! That's awesome.
#86 [00:26] <Jovet> was it flying? :P
#87 [00:26] <Wug> it apparently lives in my chimney -.-
#88 [00:26] * |Kiikun| lets wug help SpankingSpoon and goes to bed
#88 [00:26] <SpankingSpoon> Jetpack?
#89 [00:27] <SpankingSpoon> Okay, what do you guys reckon I should do?
#90 [00:27] <Jovet> SpankingSpoon: has 1.0 ever worked for 'ya?
#91 [00:27] <SpankingSpoon> Yeah, I updated about four days ago.
#92 [00:27] <SpankingSpoon> Or... earlier then that.
#93 [00:27] <SpankingSpoon> Herpderp.
#94 [00:27] <Wug> whenever
#95 [00:27] <Wug> anyway, explain everything you know about everything related
#96 [00:28] <Wug> and everything youve tried so far
#97 [00:28] <SpankingSpoon> I updated my .jar and tried default texture pack. I reinstalled Java and OpenGL drivers to no avail, I went to the FAQ and snooped around there for a few hours...
#98 [00:29] <SpankingSpoon> I have tried SMP Revival, Painterly, OCD and Jollycraft packs, used MCpatcher files for waterflow/lavaflow.
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#100 [00:29] <SpankingSpoon> REinstalled, updated, removed and relocated my .minecraft file.
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#102 [00:29] <Wug> this is vanilla right
#103 [00:29] <SpankingSpoon> Yeah.
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#105 [00:30] <Wug> youre sure youre somewhere theres supposed to be shading?
#106 [00:30] <Wug> may've changed between 1.9 pre x and 1.0.0
#107 [00:30] <SpankingSpoon> As of right now, I am in extreme hills, but I have other worlds... let me see if anything happens on there.
#108 [00:31] <Wug> do a creative and fly around
#109 [00:31] <mib_7crjfu> when i try to load the classic game it always says fatal error occured (4) anybody no how to fix it?
#110 [00:31] <SpankingSpoon> Reinstall Java
#111 [00:31] <mib_7crjfu> k
#112 [00:31] <SpankingSpoon> Update Drivers
#113 [00:31] <Wug> mib_7crjfu: try disabling your antivirus programs
#114 [00:31] <Wug> if you need to reinstall java you can do it here:
#115 [00:31] <Wug> :j
#116 [00:31] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#117 [00:32] <mib_7crjfu> thank you
#118 [00:32] <SpankingSpoon> Goto Control Panel > System > Device Manager > Video controllers > rightclick > Update drivers
#119 [00:32] <SpankingSpoon> ...Shit.
#120 [00:33] <SpankingSpoon> So, I have a world I made and have been dicking with since 1.5_01
#121 [00:33] <SpankingSpoon> It has shading on it.
#122 [00:34] <Wug> seems like its working fine then -.-
#123 [00:34] * Wug punts |Kiikun|
#123 [00:34] <|Kiikun|> bluck?
#124 [00:34] <SpankingSpoon> But on my other world there is none.
#125 [00:35] <SpankingSpoon> Eh, don't sweat it. I'll deal with it.
#126 [00:35] <SpankingSpoon> Thanks guys, have a great night!
#127 [00:35] <|Kiikun|> SpankingSpoon: it might be that your just in areas that are no longer the biome they appear to be?
#128 [00:37] <Jovet> yes
#129 [00:37] <Jovet> the biome code has changed so the biomes will be different
#130 [00:37] <Jovet> so that would be the problem
#131 [00:37] <|Kiikun|> ah ok. me go sleep now.. have work at 8am
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#133 [00:42] <Jovet> that's a new bug in 1.0.0
#134 [00:43] <Jovet> well I doubt it's intentional. :-/
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#137 [00:49] <Cyrus> So, 1.0.0 has been released, but I'm still getting the black screen
#138 [00:49] <GROMOR_RUS> hi can anyone tell me where i can find normal bukkit server that can run mods?
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#140 [00:55] <Jovet> AuBot really needs to remind visitors to have at least a semblence of patience when asking a question.
#141 [01:00] <clarjon1> Jovet: eyup.
#142 [01:00] <clarjon1> Jovet: eyup.
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#145 [01:03] <Wug> aubot's motd needs to be updated
#146 [01:03] <Wug> I think I can do that actually
#147 [01:05] <Jovet> yeah I thought that the same
#148 [01:06] <Wug> .set motd JUST ASK YOUR QUESTION, IF WE CAN HELP WE WILL. PLEASE BE PATIENT, WE CAN'T ANSWER YOU IF YOU QUIT AFTER 10 SECONDS. | Channel rules: http://goo.gl/bmDxr
#149 [01:06] <Wug> I think that'll do it for now
#150 [01:06] <Wug> Kealper: ^
#151 [01:06] <Wug> figured I'd let you know and all since its your bot
#152 [01:07] <Wug> well, I'm going to bed
#153 [01:07] <Wug> my brain is steaming
#154 [01:08] <Jovet> yay!
#155 [01:09] <Jovet> steaming?
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#157 [01:19] <Kealper> lol
#158 [01:20] <Jovet> how's it hangin' Kealper?
#159 [01:21] <CosmicVoyager> Can anyone tell me if ghast fireballs explode for them on 1.0 server? They doo not for me, and I have WorldGaurd off.
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#161 [01:21] <Kealper> i should rewrite the MOTD thing to allow for previous MOTDs to be saved... so you could do like .set motd -1 and get the motd that was last set (for temporary downtime motds)
#162 [01:21] <Kealper> as for the question.... dunno, haven't been to the nether in 1.0 yet :/
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#164 [01:22] <Kealper> Jovet: so..i found this zip bomb....and downloaded it
#165 [01:22] <Kealper> quite a simple but amazingly effective concept, those are
#166 [01:23] <Jovet> CosmicVoyager: Yes
#167 [01:23] <CosmicVoyager> Darn
#168 [01:23] <Jovet> I think...
#169 [01:23] <CosmicVoyager> Hmm
#170 [01:23] <Jovet> let me think. lol
#171 [01:23] <Jovet> let me go to the Nether and see
#172 [01:24] <CosmicVoyager> Ghast firebalss do not do anything for me. No explosion no damage,
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#175 [01:28] <Jovet> need to find a ghast
#176 [01:29] <Jovet> this is a neat Nether
#177 [01:29] <Jovet> but the one ghast that awas around despawned
#178 [01:30] <CosmicVoyager> Jovet single or server?
#179 [01:31] <Jovet> server
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#181 [01:33] <scotty> hey anyone on?
#182 [01:33] <Jovet> they explode, but they are not damaging me
#183 [01:33] <scotty> |kiikun| u there?
#184 [01:33] <Jovet> I think they tried to chagne the name of them, but who knows if they changed them intentionally that way
#185 [01:34] <Jovet> no he's asleep
#186 [01:34] <scotty> jovet
#187 [01:34] <CosmicVoyager> Jovet change the name?
#188 [01:35] <scotty> my portfoward was working 2min ago but i had to restart my computer and now its not :(?
#189 [01:35] <Jovet> yeah the wiki mentioned something about them not being "ghast fireballs" anymore but something different
#190 [01:36] <scotty> jovet
#191 [01:36] <Jovet> but yeah they still blow up the trrain, but not me. lol
#192 [01:36] <Jovet> yes scotty?
#193 [01:36] <scotty> i had my server working 2min ago
#194 [01:36] <Jovet> firewall still open? Anti-virus problem?
#195 [01:36] <scotty> had to restart and now its not working
#196 [01:36] <scotty> do u have teamveiwer?
#197 [01:37] <CosmicVoyager> now i now how this guy built house of wood where he did in nether...no ghast damage
#198 [01:37] <CosmicVoyager> when i get it working he will have to move or use something stonger lol
#199 [01:38] <Jovet> CosmicVoyager: wood planks?
#200 [01:38] <CosmicVoyager> ya
#201 [01:38] <Jovet> scotty: yes I do
#202 [01:39] <Jovet> I'll try putting some wood planks down
#203 [01:39] <scotty> can u teamview me and find otu whats wrong please :)
#204 [01:40] <scotty> jovet can u please help me :(?
#205 [01:41] <Jovet> I am considering it
#206 [01:41] <scotty> the portfoward is all set up
#207 [01:41] <scotty> its just i turned my computer off to restart and its not working anymore :( *crys*
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#209 [01:45] <scotty> jovet so can u please help i really need it :(
#210 [01:46] <Jovet> CosmicVoyager: I can confirm no ghast damage to wood planks
#211 [01:46] <Jovet> though the resulting explosions+fires are burning them down
#212 [01:47] <Jovet> yay for 1.0.0 bugs
#213 [01:47] <Jovet> !check scotty
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#215 [01:48] <Jovet> !check 11.183.26.211
#216 [01:48] <CosmicVoyager> Jovet hmm i dont even get explosions
#217 [01:48] <Jovet> I do
#218 [01:48] <Jovet> is your world brand new with 1.0?
#219 [01:48] <scotty> so jovet any idea what is wrong?
#220 [01:49] <Jovet> I already gave you a few ideas you could check
#221 [01:49] <scotty> yes my world is 1.0
#222 [01:49] <nightcysero> I cant log in! D:
#223 [01:49] <scotty> i had it up like 10min ago
#224 [01:49] <Jovet> scotty: I was talking to CosmicVoyager
#225 [01:50] <CosmicVoyager> Jovet no its 1.9
#226 [01:50] <scotty> sorry
#227 [01:50] <Jovet> it was made in 1.9 beta and now you're using 1.0?
#228 [01:50] <CosmicVoyager> Jovet nether os from...how would that effect explosions?
#229 [01:50] <CosmicVoyager> Jovet yes
#230 [01:51] <Jovet> CosmicVoyager: search me! I didn't program minecraft. lol
#231 [01:51] <Jovet> if I were you, I'd be curious enough to create a new world and see if there are explosions there.
#232 [01:51] <CosmicVoyager> ok
#233 [01:51] <nightcysero> Err... This might be a bad time, but I cant log in...
#234 [01:52] <nightcysero> (To Minecraft)
#235 [01:52] <Jovet> nightcysero: to the client to play the game or the website?
#236 [01:52] <nightcysero> Both.
#237 [01:52] <Jovet> nightcysero: what does it say?
#238 [01:52] <nightcysero> It says my username or password is incorrect - Although I have changed it many times.
#239 [01:52] <scotty> so jovet can u help me if your not busy
#240 [01:52] <Jovet> scotty: make sure your firewall on your computer (Windows or otherwise) is still excepting Minecraft.
#241 [01:53] <scotty> how do i cheak?
#242 [01:53] <Jovet> scotty: make sure your anti-virus is not interfering
#243 [01:53] <Jovet> scotty: go to http://www.google.com and do a search for "windows firewall rules"
#244 [01:53] <Jovet> scotty: if you figure it out yourself, you'll be better off in the future
#245 [01:54] <nightcysero> Jovet, any ideas?
#246 [01:55] <Jovet> scotty: why rebooting your computer nixed your forwarding I don't know, but anti-virus or Firewall seem the most suspicious to me.
#247 [01:55] <Jovet> scotty: the other thing it could be is your network IP address changed, but I don't know anything about your network configuration yet.
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#249 [01:56] <Jovet> nightcysero: the minecraft authentication servers have been flaky lately.. if you wait 10 minutes or so, it might work
#250 [01:56] <nightcysero> Alright.
#251 [01:56] <Jovet> nightcysero: don't try resetting your password unless you get desperate or it takes a few hours
#252 [01:56] <nightcysero> Oh.
#253 [01:56] <Jovet> nightcysero: obviously make sure your username and password are completely correct.
#254 [01:56] <nightcysero> Yeah.
#255 [01:57] <Jovet> nightcysero: if you start resetting your password you need to follow through with it and wait for the email etc.
#256 [01:57] <Jovet> nightcysero: but it's more likely Mojang's servers can't handle the load of late.
#257 [01:57] <Jovet> err I should say Amazon's servers... I think S3 handles it
#258 [01:57] <nightcysero> Im getting the emails, I change the password, and try log in with them, and I still cant get through. But Ill wait... I guess.
#259 [01:58] <Jovet> that's good, some people have to wait a while for the emails
#260 [01:58] <nightcysero> Alright. I'll come back tomorrow if it doesnt work. Thanks for your time! :D
#261 [01:58] <Jovet> sure thing
#262 [01:58] <scotty> jovet i tried but it didnt work
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#264 [01:59] <Jovet> scotty: define "it"
#265 [01:59] <scotty> i changed around the fire wall
#266 [01:59] <scotty> i went to windows firewall and turned it off
#267 [02:00] <scotty> and my friend still cant connect
#268 [02:00] <CosmicVoyager> Jovet does not work with nw nether either
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#270 [02:00] <Jovet> weird. do yo uwant to come on my server and see if you have explosions there?
#271 [02:01] <Jovet> scotty: next thing to do is to check your port forwarding on the router/modem again
#272 [02:01] <scotty> i not exactly sure how to get terhe
#273 [02:01] <CosmicVoyager> Jovet ok/ ya
#274 [02:01] <scotty> can u help em
#275 [02:01] <scotty> me
#276 [02:04] <Jovet> scotty: http://portforward.com
#277 [02:05] <Jovet> CosmicVoyager: 24.230.138.96
#278 [02:05] <Jovet> scotty: scroll down and pick your router from the list, then, click "Skip Advertisement" at the top, and follow the instructions.
#279 [02:06] <CosmicVoyager> Jovet can;t reach server
#280 [02:06] <Jovet> !check Jovet
#281 [02:07] <Jovet> !check 24.230.138.96
#282 [02:07] <Kealper> can't do that with that setup :/
#283 [02:07] <Jovet> eh?
#284 [02:07] <scotty> !check scotty
#285 [02:07] <Kealper> i mean you can't check via username
#286 [02:07] <Jovet> !check
#287 [02:07] <Kealper> you can however.. just type !check
#288 [02:07] <scotty> kealper can u help me?
#289 [02:07] <Kealper> scotty: with?
#290 [02:07] <Jovet> OH I have it forwarded to the wrong machine, hang on
#291 [02:08] <Kealper> lol
#292 [02:08] <scotty> i had my server running 20min ago
#293 [02:08] <scotty> had to restart it
#294 [02:08] <scotty> now it doesnt work
#295 [02:08] <scotty> i portfowarded it
#296 [02:08] <scotty> and i got teamviewer
#297 [02:08] <Kealper> scotty: are you sure you forwarded it to the correct computer? your computer's internal IP probably changed
#298 [02:08] <Jovet> Kealper: I think his network IP is dynamic, he rebooted and now his forwarding doesn't work
#299 [02:08] <Jovet> CosmicVoyager: try now
#300 [02:09] <scotty> can someone teamview me and cheak im not to sure what dynamic and stuff means?
#301 [02:09] <Kealper> Jovet: yeah, i love networks like that
#302 [02:09] <Jovet> that's why they invented STatic IPs :P
#303 [02:09] <Jovet> ....so easy to setup, so much less hassle...
#304 [02:09] <scotty> so can nu help me :D
#305 [02:09] <scotty> anyone?
#306 [02:10] <Kealper> Jovet: weird thing though... my IPs are always static on my network, without even specifying anything.... and it's not the OS that's doing it either lol, all computers always get the same IP based on what i would assume to be MAC address....dd-wrt's dhcpd ftw
#307 [02:10] <Kealper> scotty: meh, i guess... let's take this to private message though
#308 [02:10] <scotty> ok
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#310 [02:13] <Jovet> you must have a funky DNS setup going
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#313 [02:16] <Jovet> I'm still upset my brown sheep committed suicide :(
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#315 [02:17] <Jovet> CosmicVoyager: I am curious what is causing that for you.
#316 [02:17] <Jovet> Minecraft Bug 1,391: Sheep can jump on top of fences.
#317 [02:18] <CosmicVoyager> i tghought this was bukkit chat!
#318 [02:18] <CosmicVoyager> lol
#319 [02:18] <CosmicVoyager> im suign bukkit
#320 [02:18] <macmouse> I keep getting the error message "can't connect to minecraft.net". I've downloaded a new client a few times over the last week, checked my software and hardware firewalls and still no go. Any ideas?
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#322 [02:18] <CosmicVoyager> but no plugins
#323 [02:18] <scotty> kealper
#324 [02:18] <scotty> what happend
#325 [02:19] <Kealper> scotty: uhh.. don't know, you just left IRC
#326 [02:19] <scotty> when u changed it my internet went off?
#327 [02:19] <scotty> u can connect again if u want
#328 [02:19] <Jovet> LOL Cosmic. haha
#329 [02:20] <Jovet> CosmicVoyager: You can try #bukkit
#330 [02:20] <macmouse> ok - I'm retarded. My shortcut was pointing to the old version....
#331 [02:20] <Jovet> glad we could help, macmouse. :D :)
#332 [02:27] <scotty> !check
#333 [02:27] <Kealper> derp... helps if the server was running rofl
#334 [02:27] <Kealper> my bad :D
#335 [02:28] <Kealper> D:*
#336 [02:28] <scotty> no prob ^.^
#337 [02:28] <Kealper> ok, type !check
#338 [02:28] <Kealper> just !check
#339 [02:28] <scotty> !check scotty
#340 [02:28] <scotty> !check
#341 [02:28] <Kealper> works now
#342 [02:29] <scotty> i i turnmy server off
#343 [02:29] <scotty> i mean computer
#344 [02:29] <scotty> will it still work
#345 [02:29] <Kealper> it should
#346 [02:29] <Jovet> yes
#347 [02:29] <Jovet> turn yoru firewall back on too
#348 [02:29] <Kealper> i've told your computer to keep asking for 192.168.2.7 this time, so it should continue to work
#349 [02:29] <scotty> 211.26.183.11 is this my ip?
#350 [02:29] <Jovet> yes Scotty
#351 [02:30] <Kealper> wait...
#352 [02:30] <scotty> ty ill check
#353 [02:30] <Kealper> scotty: type !myip
#354 [02:30] <scotty> !myip
#355 [02:30] <scotty> kk tyvm
#356 [02:30] <Kealper> ok then
#357 [02:30] <Kealper> seems you're good to go :P
#358 [02:30] <Kealper> seems you're good to go :P
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#360 [02:31] <scotty> this has to be the best site eva
#361 [02:31] <Jovet> scotty is "good to go" and then he goes. hah
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#364 [02:31] <Kealper> bah
#365 [02:32] <Kealper> totally closed the wrong thing
#366 [02:32] <Jovet> silly Kealper, tricks are for me
#367 [02:33] <Kealper> ok... going to try something that will probably result in me needing to restart my client, so....
#368 [02:33] <Jovet> more bombing?
#369 [02:33] <Kealper> wow, that actually worked
#370 [02:34] <Kealper> trying to switch my channel order around
#371 [02:34] <Jovet> hah
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#373 [02:41] <scotty> my friends say its very laggy
#374 [02:42] <scotty> even know i have really good internet and computer
#375 [02:42] <Jovet> are you playing on the same computer the server is running on?
#376 [02:42] <scotty> i am but ymy friends arnt
#377 [02:42] <Jovet> obivously :P
#378 [02:43] <Jovet> playing on the same computer as the server can definitely make things laggy for everybody
#379 [02:43] <Jovet> (Because Minecraft is written in Java)
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#381 [02:44] <scotty> i always use to play via hamachi and never lag and no one else did :(
#382 [02:45] <Jovet> I forget what hamachi is
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#387 [03:03] <GROMOR_RUS> can someone help me?
#388 [03:03] <Grim_Reaper> What seems to be the problem GROMOR_RUS?
#389 [03:04] <GROMOR_RUS> i have problem with my bukkit server it has terrible lags
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#391 [03:04] <GROMOR_RUS> i just cant paste blocks
#392 [03:04] <GROMOR_RUS> they get delited
#393 [03:04] <Jovet> why don'ja try asking in #bukkit ?
#394 [03:04] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah. You could try that
#395 [03:04] <GROMOR_RUS> noone answered(
#396 [03:05] <Jovet> why don't you try when it's not the middle of the night in the USA?
#397 [03:05] <GROMOR_RUS> )
#398 [03:05] <Grim_Reaper> Also errm. maybe your computer isn't the best thing to host it off? Or are you using a vps or something
#399 [03:05] <GROMOR_RUS> no computer is fine
#400 [03:05] <GROMOR_RUS> internet works well
#401 [03:05] <Grim_Reaper> What specs is your pc
#402 [03:05] <GROMOR_RUS> 1 sec
#403 [03:06] <GROMOR_RUS> Case Miditower Antec <Sonata Elite> ATX без БП Case Блок питания INWIN POWER MAN <IP-S600AQ3-0> 600W ATX (RTL) (24+4+6+8пин) CPU CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition (HDE00ZF) 3.3 ГГц/ 3+6Мб/4000 МГц Socket AM3 Cooler Cooler Master<RR-B10-212P>Hyper 212 Plus (775/1156/1366/AM2/AM3/FM1, 13-32дБ,600-2000об/мин,Cu+Al+теп.труб.) RAM 2 шт. Origina
#404 [03:07] <Grim_Reaper> Umm...
#405 [03:07] <GROMOR_RUS> too long text
#406 [03:07] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#407 [03:07] <GROMOR_RUS> its not all
#408 [03:07] <Grim_Reaper> Lets rather try a dxdiag :p
#409 [03:07] <GROMOR_RUS> ?
#410 [03:07] <GROMOR_RUS> dxdiag?
#411 [03:07] <Grim_Reaper> Gah what was the command >_>
#412 [03:07] <Grim_Reaper> ??dxdiag
#413 [03:07] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#414 [03:07] <Grim_Reaper> Sec
#415 [03:08] <Jovet> use http://www.pastebin.com to paste those types of things
#416 [03:08] <Jovet> ?? dxdiag > GROMOR_RUS
#417 [03:08] <Jovet> ;win/dxdiag
#418 [03:08] <GROMOR_RUS> http://pastebin.com/PS9KbAqP
#419 [03:09] <Grim_Reaper> ??> win/dxdiag
#420 [03:09] <Grim_Reaper> ??> GROMOR_RUS win/dxdiag
#421 [03:09] <VoxelHead> GROMOR_RUS: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#422 [03:09] <VoxelHead> GROMOR_RUS: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
#423 [03:09] <Grim_Reaper> Hah!
#424 [03:09] <Jovet> thar she blows!!!
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#426 [03:09] * Jovet wonders how many newbs/igns don't know what the "Win" key is.
#426 [03:09] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#427 [03:10] <AG_Clinton> Wouldn't suggest running a minecraft server on that computer if you're playing on it.
#428 [03:10] <GROMOR_RUS> http://pastebin.com/VN1ubWKp
#429 [03:11] <Jovet> those stats don't make much sense to me
#430 [03:11] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm his pc seems ok
#431 [03:11] <Jovet> okay that is better
#432 [03:11] <GROMOR_RUS> so what is the problem?
#433 [03:11] <Grim_Reaper> Not too sure actually
#434 [03:11] <Grim_Reaper> I would try asking in bukkit
#435 [03:12] <GROMOR_RUS> if you want c can test internet
#436 [03:12] <Grim_Reaper> I dont think your net is the problem. Specially if you're playing on your server thats hosted on the pc you're playing mc with
#437 [03:13] <GROMOR_RUS> yes on that pc
#438 [03:13] <Jovet> if you're using a Mod that lets you "paste" blocks... that's one I've not heard of
#439 [03:13] <GROMOR_RUS> no
#440 [03:13] <Grim_Reaper> Jovet I think he's using the errm...
#441 [03:13] <GROMOR_RUS> i dont use mods
#442 [03:13] <GROMOR_RUS> at all
#443 [03:13] <Grim_Reaper> Wait..
#444 [03:13] <Grim_Reaper> Are you sure o.o?
#445 [03:13] <Grim_Reaper> How do you "paste" your blocks then
#446 [03:13] <GROMOR_RUS> it is bukkit server without any mods
#447 [03:14] <Jovet> Version 1.0?
#448 [03:14] <GROMOR_RUS> ( i ment place
#449 [03:14] <GROMOR_RUS> build
#450 [03:14] <Grim_Reaper> Oh
#451 [03:14] <Jovet> no. heh
#452 [03:14] <Grim_Reaper> Lol
#453 [03:14] <GROMOR_RUS> ok?)
#454 [03:14] <Jovet> GROMOR_RUS: no mods client or server, then, right?
#455 [03:14] <GROMOR_RUS> yes
#456 [03:14] <Jovet> are you in Creative mode or Survival mode?
#457 [03:15] <GROMOR_RUS> creative
#458 [03:15] <Grim_Reaper> Have you tried moving far away from your spawn point
#459 [03:15] <Grim_Reaper> And seeing if that "fixes" it
#460 [03:15] <Jovet> yeah if you're not an Op you can't place blocks around the spawn area, it's protected
#461 [03:16] <GROMOR_RUS> i know
#462 [03:16] <GROMOR_RUS> but anywgere
#463 [03:16] <GROMOR_RUS> i cant build at all
#464 [03:16] <Jovet> has anyone else been on there and tried to build?
#465 [03:16] <GROMOR_RUS> they diappera in 5 seconds after creating
#466 [03:17] <GROMOR_RUS> yes]
#467 [03:17] <Jovet> same happens for everyone?
#468 [03:17] <GROMOR_RUS> sometimes it works normally but
#469 [03:17] <Jovet> I've heard of that problem before but I forget what it is :-/
#470 [03:17] <GROMOR_RUS> all of us have such problem
#471 [03:17] <Grim_Reaper> I've had that issue. But not on bukkit
#472 [03:18] <Kealper> GROMOR_RUS: can you type messages to people?
#473 [03:18] <Kealper> GROMOR_RUS: ingame i mean, like when you try to talk... do you see your message after pressing enter?
#474 [03:18] <GROMOR_RUS> yes
#475 [03:19] <GROMOR_RUS> yes
#476 [03:19] <GROMOR_RUS> it works
#477 [03:19] <Kealper> GROMOR_RUS: and yet you are still unable to break any blocks?
#478 [03:19] <GROMOR_RUS> yeah
#479 [03:19] <Jovet> you can't break any and you can't place any?
#480 [03:19] <Kealper> GROMOR_RUS: is this your own server or someone else's? have you tried on multiple servers?
#481 [03:20] <GROMOR_RUS> my
#482 [03:20] <GROMOR_RUS> on other servers it is ok
#483 [03:20] <Kealper> GROMOR_RUS: and you are positive you are an op on it?
#484 [03:20] <GROMOR_RUS> in both vays
#485 [03:20] <GROMOR_RUS> when i am op or not
#486 [03:20] <GROMOR_RUS> when i am in creative or not
#487 [03:20] <GROMOR_RUS> all time same problem
#488 [03:21] <Kealper> GROMOR_RUS: is it a completely vanilla install of the server or does it have bukkit/other mods on it?
#489 [03:21] <Jovet> it has Bukkit w/no mods
#490 [03:22] <Kealper> GROMOR_RUS: try starting up just minecraft_server.jar without launching it through bukkit, as a test
#491 [03:22] <GROMOR_RUS> maybe we use teamviever and you check what is the problem
#492 [03:22] <GROMOR_RUS> cause the server stopped working at all
#493 [03:22] <GROMOR_RUS> doesnt start anymore
#494 [03:22] <Jovet> it won't start?
#495 [03:22] <Jovet> what's the last line on the console?
#496 [03:23] <GROMOR_RUS> wait...
#497 [03:23] <GROMOR_RUS> ok it started
#498 [03:23] <GROMOR_RUS> fttP
#499 [03:23] <Jovet> would it be okay if one of us got on it to look around?
#500 [03:24] <GROMOR_RUS> 188.32.28.158
#501 [03:24] <GROMOR_RUS> here you go
#502 [03:24] <GROMOR_RUS> try
#503 [03:29] <Jovet> GROMAR_RUS: It was fine at first, but it's now too laggy for me to do anything. Can you both drop out for a minute so I can be on the servr by myself to reduce its load?
#504 [03:31] <Jovet> well from what I saw, you can place blocks.
#505 [03:31] <GROMOR_RUS> nope
#506 [03:32] <GROMOR_RUS> i said it happens sometimes
#507 [03:32] <Jovet> hmmmm
#508 [03:32] <GROMOR_RUS> but most time i cant
#509 [03:32] <GROMOR_RUS> we can disconnect and youll check
#510 [03:32] <GROMOR_RUS> if you want
#511 [03:32] <Jovet> sure
#512 [03:32] <Jovet> let me know when it's free
#513 [03:32] <Jovet> and I'm in the central United STates
#514 [03:33] <GROMOR_RUS> done
#515 [03:33] <GROMOR_RUS> i am from Russia
#516 [03:33] <GROMOR_RUS> )
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#519 [03:37] <Jovet> well I see what you mean
#520 [03:37] <Jovet> the area you put the blocks around the lagged me are stable, but a few meters away and you can't do anything
#521 [03:37] <Jovet> the creeper blow-up worked okay though
#522 [03:37] <GROMOR_RUS> so...
#523 [03:38] <Jovet> try using the default minecraft_Server.jar (i.e. without bukkit) and see if the problem goes away.
#524 [03:38] <GROMOR_RUS> wut is the prob?
#525 [03:38] <GROMOR_RUS> ok
#526 [03:38] <GROMOR_RUS> 5 sec
#527 [03:38] <Jovet> my guess is a bug in Bukkit, but won't know until you try that
#528 [03:39] <GROMOR_RUS> creating map...
#529 [03:39] <GROMOR_RUS> done
#530 [03:39] <GROMOR_RUS> can i join?
#531 [03:39] <Jovet> sure
#532 [03:40] <GROMOR_RUS> oo
#533 [03:40] <GROMOR_RUS> forgot to say
#534 [03:40] <GROMOR_RUS> i have another bug with default server
#535 [03:40] <Jovet> I was thinking to rename the bukkit minecraft_SErver.jar to something else and stick the default one in there so the world and everything else stays the same
#536 [03:40] <Jovet> the invalid key bug?
#537 [03:40] <GROMOR_RUS> yep
#538 [03:40] <Jovet> it's a known problem
#539 [03:40] <Jovet> all you can do is keep trying it
#540 [03:41] <Jovet> all you can do "safely"
#541 [03:41] <Jovet> from what we know of it, it will work or not work randomly
#542 [03:41] <GROMOR_RUS> lolz
#543 [03:42] <GROMOR_RUS> my ddos protection doesnt let me try joining the server very fast)
#544 [03:42] <Jovet> did you stick the default server .jar in anotehr folder and create another world? or?
#545 [03:43] <GROMOR_RUS> i created a new foulder called server and put this file there than i opened it
#546 [03:43] <Jovet> ahh
#547 [03:43] <Jovet> for giggles, stop that new server
#548 [03:43] <GROMOR_RUS> i joined my server
#549 [03:43] <GROMOR_RUS> default one
#550 [03:43] <Jovet> and copy the data files from the old server over to that one
#551 [03:43] <Jovet> and start it again
#552 [03:44] <GROMOR_RUS> from bukkit to default?
#553 [03:44] <Jovet> yes
#554 [03:44] <GROMOR_RUS> K
#555 [03:44] <Jovet> copy all but the .jar and .exe
#556 [03:44] <GROMOR_RUS> but it works
#557 [03:45] <GROMOR_RUS> shall i use default one to start
#558 [03:45] <Jovet> yes
#559 [03:45] <GROMOR_RUS> odone
#560 [03:45] <GROMOR_RUS> done
#561 [03:45] <GROMOR_RUS> ]*
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#563 [03:45] <Jovet> did you hop onto it? did the old world appear, then?
#564 [03:46] <GROMOR_RUS> yes
#565 [03:46] <GROMOR_RUS> i ma in old world
#566 [03:46] <GROMOR_RUS> where you were
#567 [03:48] <GROMOR_RUS> do you have lags?
#568 [03:48] <Jovet> no it is working pretty well for me
#569 [03:48] <Jovet> even while you were logged on. I think it got really laggy for me when the second person joined earlier.
#570 [03:53] <Jovet> that's weird.
#571 [03:53] <GROMOR_RUS> done
#572 [03:53] <GROMOR_RUS> new map
#573 [03:54] <Jovet> GROMOR_RUS: You understand some mods can make a world dependant on that mod? Like a mod that adds custom blocks, etc.
#574 [03:54] <GROMOR_RUS> yes
#575 [03:54] <GROMOR_RUS> i created a new map
#576 [03:54] <GROMOR_RUS> world is new
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#579 [03:58] <GROMOR_RUS> invalid server keuy
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#581 [04:02] <Jovet> he had two client mods installed, TMI, and Russificator or wahtever it's called
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#583 [04:02] <Jovet> wb GROMOR_RUS
#584 [04:02] <GROMOR_RUS> well i forgot to ask you 1 more think
#585 [04:03] <GROMOR_RUS> will i be able to install mods on this server?
#586 [04:03] <Jovet> if I were you, I'd go back to the Bukkit server you were having problems with without any client mods and see how well it works now.
#587 [04:03] <GROMOR_RUS> k
#588 [04:04] <Jovet> if that works okay, then try adding your client mods back one at a time, testing to see if one of them makes things go haywire.
#589 [04:04] <Jovet> in theory they shoudln't have problems with each other, but who knows... minecraft is kind-of complex like that.
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#591 [04:04] <Jovet> if you still have problems, try asking in #bukkit , in, say, 7-18 hours
#592 [04:05] <GROMOR_RUS> all is fine
#593 [04:05] <GROMOR_RUS> thx
#594 [04:06] <Jovet> To anyone reading this, I'll describe what happened: Logged onto his server, and experienced the same problems as him.
#595 [04:06] <Jovet> Some blocks could be built/destroyed, others not, with the effect countered instantly
#596 [04:06] <Jovet> He coudln't punch animals or players, but I could
#597 [04:07] <Jovet> He switched from the Bukkit .jar to the default one with the same world, and same results.
#598 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> Client mod or firewall?
#599 [04:07] <Jovet> Then I asked if he he had any client mods... and he said yes. He forced-updated, and then all was fine.
#600 [04:08] <Jovet> it seems his client mods were causing the problem
#601 [04:08] <Jovet> but it doesn't explain why it was happening to me.
#602 [04:08] * GreyVulpine nods
#602 [04:09] <Jovet> the second world he created brand new, I had no problems on at all, but he still did... and he was fine on that after force-updating
#603 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> client-side mods can cause problems
#604 [04:09] <Jovet> apparently. heh
#605 [04:10] <Jovet> hopefully something the Mod API can address
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#607 [04:11] <weisnixXx> hi can somebody see what i write?
#608 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> Nope. Not at all
#609 [04:11] <Jovet> I wish I could see what he writes...
#610 [04:11] <weisnixXx> ok thx, at least someone. normaly i cant send messages on irc
#611 [04:11] <weisnixXx> thats why i asked
#612 [04:12] <weisnixXx> Your purchase was for some reason denied to be processed.
#613 [04:12] <weisnixXx> this message i got
#614 [04:12] <weisnixXx> when i tried to buy minecraft.
#615 [04:12] <GreyVulpine> Either your bank or credit card provider is denying the purchase. You'll have to contact them
#616 [04:12] <weisnixXx> anyone has an idea what to do?
#617 [04:13] <weisnixXx> i tried it with paypal
#618 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> Try using a different payment source?
#619 [04:13] <weisnixXx> why could they deny it?
#620 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> What did you use to pay through paypal? Did you have money already in your paypal account?
#621 [04:14] <weisnixXx> it says i dont need money on it if i connect it to my bank
#622 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> Then your bank is denying the transaction, not paypal
#623 [04:14] <weisnixXx> account
#624 [04:14] <weisnixXx> hmmm......
#625 [04:14] <Jovet> the bank account in question needs validated by paypal first, and of course it needs to have the required funds in it.
#626 [04:14] <weisnixXx> :(
#627 [04:15] <weisnixXx> so i need money on my paypal account?
#628 [04:15] <Jovet> not if your bank account has it
#629 [04:16] <weisnixXx> it has it.
#630 [04:16] <Jovet> if your paypal account can't cover it then it automatically withdraws from the associated bank account(s)
#631 [04:16] <Jovet> if you're paying in dollars make sure you have enough in there
#632 [04:16] <Jovet> the price is usually listed in pounds sterling (UK)
#633 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> Euros.
#634 [04:16] <weisnixXx> no i pay in €
#635 [04:17] <Jovet> or Euros yeah. heh
#636 [04:17] <weisnixXx> and i have more than enough, that cant be the proble
#637 [04:17] <weisnixXx> m
#638 [04:17] <Jovet> if you ahve the money in your paypal account, and it won't go through, you'll have to contact PayPal customer service.
#639 [04:18] <weisnixXx> no i dont have it in my paypal account buut i have it in my bank account
#640 [04:18] <Jovet> you could try moving it into your paypal account manually
#641 [04:18] <weisnixXx> how?
#642 [04:18] <Jovet> Transfer funds
#643 [04:18] <Jovet> your paypal account is pretty mcuh like a regular banking account.
#644 [04:19] <Jovet> so you can put funds into it at any time.
#645 [04:21] <weisnixXx> it says it takes 1-2 days
#646 [04:21] <weisnixXx> to transfer money on it
#647 [04:21] <Jovet> *shrug* it might.
#648 [04:21] <weisnixXx> *shrug* means what?
#649 [04:21] <Jovet> it means "I don't know" as in shrugging my shoulders.
#650 [04:22] <weisnixXx> sorry my english isnt that good^^
#651 [04:22] <Jovet> you're doing fine :)
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#656 [04:27] <Jovet> that's about all we can tell you for billing problems, though.
#657 [04:27] <Jovet> we're not Mojang employees and don't have access to that stuff.
#658 [04:29] <weisnixXx> do you have tan generators in your country too?
#659 [04:29] <Jovet> eh?
#660 [04:29] <weisnixXx> so you dont have^^
#661 [04:29] <Jovet> do you mean tanning booths?
#662 [04:30] <weisnixXx> its a thing to make save transfers from your home pc.....but it actually isnt working that well
#663 [04:30] <weisnixXx> -.-
#664 [04:30] <Jovet> oh, I'm not familiar.
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#668 [04:44] <tdawlings> I'm having trouble logging into the website
#669 [04:45] <Jovet> that's common right now. wait a few or 10 minutes and try again.
#670 [04:45] <tdawlings> ok thanks
#671 [04:45] <Jovet> don't try changing your password unless you're not sure it's right
#672 [04:45] <tdawlings> oh, too late
#673 [04:46] <Jovet> heh, well, follow through with it and get it changed then
#674 [04:46] <tdawlings> already done
#675 [04:47] <tdawlings> so for other people, is it saying that it couldn't find the username/password?
#676 [04:47] <Jovet> yes
#677 [04:47] <Jovet> even though they're right. the servers are just a bit swamped lately.
#678 [04:47] <tdawlings> ok, that helps a lot, thanks!
#679 [04:47] <Jovet> no prob!
#680 [04:47] <tdawlings> hey, it works now!
#681 [04:48] <tdawlings> cool!
#682 [04:48] <tdawlings> cool!
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#684 [04:51] <weisnixXx> thx for help
#685 [04:51] <weisnixXx> bye
#686 [04:51] <Jovet> good to hear
#687 [04:51] <Jovet> not sure how we helped but.. :)
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#689 [04:52] <weisnixXx> ^^ its still not working but you tried to help and i think you even helped
#690 [04:52] <weisnixXx> ^^
#691 [04:52] <Jovet> awww
#692 [04:53] <weisnixXx> so bye bye
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#699 [05:20] <scotty> hey is kealper on?
#700 [05:20] <Kealper> uhh.... depends
#701 [05:21] <scotty> hey i dont suppose when u changed my ip it made my internet slower by any chance
#702 [05:21] <scotty> just a question
#703 [05:21] <Kealper> no, it shouldn't have
#704 [05:22] <Kealper> all i did was just tell windows to keep asking for that 192.168.2.7 IP instead of just saying "pick one for me"
#705 [05:22] <Kealper> which is something that is recommended by everyone anyways... is anyone using torrent programs in your house right now?
#706 [05:23] <scotty> not to sure
#707 [05:23] <scotty> ill cheak
#708 [05:23] <Kealper> because programs like uTorrent and stuff can slow your internet down a lot
#709 [05:23] <Kealper> or uploading things to youtube and stuff too
#710 [05:23] <scotty> nope
#711 [05:24] <scotty> im not blaming u dont worry i know u just wanted to help just so u know
#712 [05:24] <scotty> but its weird becuase with my hamachi server i never use to lag then when hamachi stopped i got pf and now its slower
#713 [05:25] <Kealper> hmm... how many people are on your Minecraft server right now?
#714 [05:25] <scotty> none its too laggy
#715 [05:25] <Kealper> hmm.. :/
#716 [05:25] <scotty> i mean they cant even mine propely and i have good internet and computer
#717 [05:25] <Kealper> go to http://speedtest.net and click to run a test there
#718 [05:25] <Kealper> when it is done, click on the "Share" thing and then click copy, and paste that thing in here
#719 [05:28] <scotty> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1605964695.png
#720 [05:28] <scotty> lol usually i get around 11
#721 [05:28] <Kealper> holy cow that is quite slow isn't it....
#722 [05:28] <scotty> I KNOW AND ITS SO ANNOYING
#723 [05:28] <Kealper> and it was kind of laggy over teamviewer... hmm
#724 [05:29] <scotty> only started happining today
#725 [05:29] <Kealper> was this happening before you set up the Minecraft server?
#726 [05:29] <scotty> but im not blaming u dont feel bad
#727 [05:29] <scotty> no it wasnt
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#729 [05:29] <scotty> i could be capped
#730 [05:29] <scotty> wait
#731 [05:29] <Kealper> well, i know what i did couldn't have caused it to slow down lol
#732 [05:29] <Jul1C4sh> Hey Guys, can some tell me how to walk fast in 1.0.0?
#733 [05:29] <GreyVulpine> double tap w
#734 [05:29] <Jul1C4sh> its not doublepress w anymore
#735 [05:29] <Jul1C4sh> no it doesnt work somehow
#736 [05:30] <Kealper> scotty: but yes, you very well could be being capped.. because your ping in that is still really good, but your speeds are low, and almost exactly the same
#737 [05:31] <Aratsi> scotty: I think I know the problem. Here, I fixed it for you: http://i.imgur.com/rqF9P.png
#738 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - Many ISPs in Aussieland cap bandwidth, usually around 10 gigs/month, then the speeds drop to dialup speeds
#739 [05:31] <Kealper> scotty: if there was something like uTorrent running, your ping would be really high, and generally the upload speed in those are much lower than the download speed... if they are the same, and both really slow... then something is up
#740 [05:31] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: yeah, that's what i'm thinking it is
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#742 [05:35] <Jul1C4sh> and can someone tell me how the slime-thing is working? do they spawn, if a player is near? or not near?
#743 [05:35] <Jul1C4sh> i made two chunks down on y=10 where slimes should spawn
#744 [05:35] <Jul1C4sh> but nothing happens
#745 [05:35] <Jul1C4sh> waited couple of days
#746 [05:36] <Jul1C4sh> 2 high is enough right?
#747 [05:41] <scotty> sorry
#748 [05:43] <scotty> went afk
#749 [05:48] <Jul1C4sh> i play on easy, but that should be enough, right?
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#751 [05:50] <Juze> Hm, Minecraft Overviewer vs Pigmap on live server? Currently on Overviewer
#752 [05:50] <Juze> Pigmap is obviously a lot faster
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#756 [05:58] <Balee> Hiya.
#757 [05:59] <Balee> Is anyone using the new, development version Bukkit?
#758 [06:01] <Balee> Oh, there's a channel for that. Kewl.
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#767 [06:44] <amphiboly> I was trying out texture packs to reduce minecraft lag, at the advice of others, and I'm confused how to install them. minecraft 1.0.0 menu has a textures button which suggests to pui them in .minecraft\texturepacks, but some say to use 7zip to copy them into minecraft.jar and overwrite the default textures, which I'd rather not do. What's the real story ?
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#769 [06:45] <amphiboly> I can believe that simpler textures would speed up minecraft
#770 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> The former is the right way of doing it
#771 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> The latter, was the old way
#772 [06:47] <amphiboly> ok, then I can easily revert to original textures if the custom one sucks
#773 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#774 [06:47] <amphiboly> thanks
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#777 [06:50] <amphiboly> I'm going thru every optimization at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-22-updated-on-nov-6
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#780 [06:56] <berdario> Hello, I have a similar problem to this one: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/not_being_able_to_login_with_our_correct_username_and_password
#781 [06:57] <berdario> basically, I can't login either on the application or on the website
#782 [06:57] <berdario> I tried resetting the password multiple times, and i successfully receive the mail (so the account is recognized)
#783 [06:58] <berdario> but each time the password doesn't work
#784 [06:58] <berdario> any clue?
#785 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> Gotta wait for Mojang to fix it
#786 [06:59] <berdario> GreyVulpine, any source for that?
#787 [07:00] <berdario> I mean: that the issue has been acknowledged
#788 [07:00] <berdario> and that there's a bug report/issue on getsatisfaction/mailing list/whatever that I can subscribe to, to get notified when this will be fixed?
#789 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> Can't say that it's been acknowledged yet. Just gotta follow the Mojang team on twitter if you want to keep up to date
#790 [07:02] <amphiboly> I miss the zoom feature of the CTRL key in 1.8.1
#791 [07:03] <amphiboly> is there a mod to restore CTRL zooming for 1.0.0?
#792 [07:04] <GreyVulpine> Can't say I've seen one, but this channel isn't suited for mod questions
#793 [07:04] <amphiboly> what channel is suited for mod questions?
#794 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> You may want to try out #risucraft, but be aware that they've gotten tired of simple modding questions that google can answer.
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#796 [07:05] <berdario> ok, I settled for trying to play offline
#797 [07:06] <berdario> last time I opened minecraft was several months ago
#798 [07:06] <berdario> apparently now I have some strange architecture issue
#799 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> Strange how?
#800 [07:06] <berdario> GreyVulpine, is there a way to update minecraft itself (not the launcher) without logging in? (I guess no, but I'm asking just in case)
#801 [07:07] <amphiboly> sounds like #risucraft is not suited for mod questions either
#802 [07:07] <GreyVulpine> berdario - There isn't (legally)
#803 [07:07] <berdario> .minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 (Possible cause: architecture word width mismatch)
#804 [07:07] <berdario> this is a 64bit machine
#805 [07:07] <berdario> (but it was 64bit even some months ago)
#806 [07:08] <GreyVulpine> berdario - Are you using java 7 by any chance?
#807 [07:08] <berdario> yes
#808 [07:08] <berdario> I'll try with java6
#809 [07:08] <GreyVulpine> berdario - That would be why. Java 7 and minecraft have had problems for months
#810 [07:08] <berdario> ok, thanks :)
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#813 [07:17] <berdario> uhhh.... apparently I have yet another problem :/
#814 [07:17] <berdario> keyboard isn't working anymore
#815 [07:17] <berdario> minecraft grabs any input
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#817 [07:18] <berdario> (e.g. I can't alt+tab away)
#818 [07:18] <berdario> and yet, W and S don't move my character
#819 [07:18] <berdario> space doesn't jump, and I can't get to the menu :/
#820 [07:18] <berdario> (the mouse works fine btw)
#821 [07:19] <berdario> ok, I guess the problem happens even before the game starts
#822 [07:19] <berdario> keyboard input doesn't work even in the menus
#823 [07:19] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, try a complete uninstall/reinstall of java?
#824 [07:20] <GreyVulpine> Also try a force update through the launcher
#825 [07:20] <berdario> I don't think that's the issue
#826 [07:20] <berdario> I got this output:
#827 [07:20] <berdario> Failed to open device (/dev/input/event0): Failed to open device /dev/input/event0 (13)
#828 [07:21] <berdario> (it happens with event8 all the way through event0)
#829 [07:21] <berdario> force update doesn't seem to do anything
#830 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> Huh, what operating system are you on?
#831 [07:21] <berdario> (I guess because of the login problem)
#832 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> I see this with *nix a few times
#833 [07:21] <berdario> linux
#834 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> Ah..
#835 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> One sec..
#836 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> Our bot has a faq entry for this that I put in a while ago..
#837 [07:22] <berdario> I also got this problem (again, probably caused by the login failures... or just the client being horribly out of date: seems to be version 1.1): java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 403 for URL: http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftSkins/Player.png
#838 [07:22] <berdario> ok
#839 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> ?? dev/input/
#840 [07:23] <VoxelHead> dev/input/: |You'll know when you'll need this.
#841 [07:23] <VoxelHead> dev/input/: sudo chmod go=u /dev/input/event*
#842 [07:23] <GreyVulpine> Try that in your terminal
#843 [07:23] <berdario> uh, that's not nice
#844 [07:23] <berdario> but if it's the only way ...
#845 [07:24] <berdario> I assume go=u stands for go=<youruser>
#846 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> It's either that, or try updating lwjgl.
#847 [07:25] <berdario> uh, no... I was wrong... (I don't use chmod very often and misremembered its syntax)
#848 [07:25] <berdario> go=u is indeed valid syntax
#849 [07:25] <GreyVulpine> This was where it came from, back when we had a few people with the same issue as yours
#850 [07:25] <GreyVulpine> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613995
#851 [07:25] <GreyVulpine> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613995
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#853 [07:31] <berdario> uhm, I don't get any more errors, but minecraft still can't make use of the keyboard
#854 [07:32] <berdario> (afk for lunch... I'll try again later, maybe)
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#861 [08:14] <Expandranon> I tried buying the game today, but was told the two times I tried that my card was declined. When I called to ask why, I was informed the charges had gone through without difficulty. Despite this, my account is still not Premium. Also, is it normal to not receive emails regarding a newly registered account?
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#863 [08:16] <GreyVulpine> Accounts can and have been known to take a few hours for the payment to be processed. Once Mojang's system gets confirmation of payment from whatever payment method you used, it's an automatic process to mark your accuont as premium.
#864 [08:17] <GreyVulpine> Usually, you do get an email confirming payment from the payment solution you used, whether it's paypal, moneybookers, or the other payment methods that are available.
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#866 [08:19] <Expandranon> Will I get a welcome email confirming I've signed up with Minecraft? I believe I entered the right address, but since the site doesn't allow me to view or change it, I have no way of knowing if I've missed an email or if none have been sent.
#867 [08:20] <GreyVulpine> Try a http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename on the email you used to register with minecraft. It should send back an email with all usernames attached to that email, and whether or not it's marked as premium
#868 [08:20] <Expandranon> Thanks.
#869 [08:21] <Expandranon> That worked perfectly.
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#871 [08:23] <Expandranon> Thanks for the help. Time to head out here.
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#879 [08:38] <fault> !seen
#880 [08:38] <fault> ;seen
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#882 [08:41] <NineteenIguy> hello?
#883 [08:41] <NineteenIguy> Hellooooo?
#884 [08:41] <NineteenIguy> any MC helper?
#885 [08:41] <NineteenIguy> or just a guy who can help?
#886 [08:42] <westmi> what?
#887 [08:42] <NineteenIguy> or a less helping helper?
#888 [08:42] <NineteenIguy> oh hi
#889 [08:42] <NineteenIguy> Well I had some questions on Minecraft
#890 [08:42] <westmi> what's the problem?
#891 [08:43] <NineteenIguy> I needed some help in making my own server, or just a way to play multiplayer with the people I want to play
#892 [08:43] <NineteenIguy> (private server)
#893 [08:44] <westmi> what kind of hardware do ya got to play with?
#894 [08:44] <Geo> First
#895 [08:44] <Geo> ^
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#897 [08:45] <NineteenIguy> what do you mean?
#898 [08:45] <Geo> You can either run it from your computer, providing the hardware is up to scratch, rent a minecraft server p/m, or run it from a server
#899 [08:45] <glbeast63> is this for mineceaft help?
#900 [08:45] <NineteenIguy> yes
#901 [08:45] <glbeast63> it wont let me log into my account
#902 [08:45] <westmi> do ya got just a pc, lappy, desktop, what do ya have there?
#903 [08:45] <glbeast63> me?
#904 [08:46] <Geo> No, NineteenIguy
#905 [08:46] <Geo> glbeast63, Was the password correct
#906 [08:46] <westmi> I have 3 pc and one of them is a server
#907 [08:46] <NineteenIguy> I have a good pc with a bit of a bad Net (70% of net out of 100) and my friends have a better one
#908 [08:46] <glbeast63> yeah and i have changed it 2 times
#909 [08:46] <westmi> what do you have?
#910 [08:47] <westmi> ok your limited
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#912 [08:47] <Geo> Define "good pc"
#913 [08:47] <NineteenIguy> yeah, I'm a bit... my friends have better net, but they also don't know how to make a server... and they don't talk english
#914 [08:47] <westmi> i'm outta herer can't help
#915 [08:48] <NineteenIguy> westmi: what?
#916 [08:48] <westmi> my advice: get another pc and turn it into a server
#917 [08:48] <NineteenIguy> how!?
#918 [08:48] <Geo> Have you read any of the minecraft wiki
#919 [08:49] <NineteenIguy> My question was in the 1st place : how to create a server XD
#920 [08:49] <westmi> yes:minecraft wiki
#921 [08:49] <glbeast63> oh now it lets me log in
#922 [08:49] <glbeast63> .......
#923 [08:49] <Geo> Any my answer was read the minecraft wiki
#924 [08:49] <westmi> and I just told you
#925 [08:50] <glbeast63> thanks even though i got it to work seeya
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#927 [08:50] <NineteenIguy> ... well I wanted a way to ask and answer tutorial, not to read it all up :| but thanks
#928 [08:50] <NineteenIguy> I'll be afk for a while
#929 [08:50] <Geo> I'm not going to tell you step by step if you can't be bothered to read the wiki first
#930 [08:51] <westmi> ^
#931 [08:51] <clarjon1> yeah
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#933 [08:51] <clarjon1> NineteenIguy: The documentation is already there -- and it's there for a reason :P
#934 [08:51] <sdousley> Hi all, does anyone know of any way that I can "heat" ice so it doesn't re-form, but without generating light?
#935 [08:51] <Geo> lol?
#936 [08:52] <westmi> no
#937 [08:52] <Geo> Glass over water stops the freezing process
#938 [08:52] <westmi> sdousley, no
#939 [08:52] <NineteenIguy> okey! I said I was going to the wiki =P I am not Making you answer me. Geez :)
#940 [08:52] <Geo> actually
#941 [08:52] <westmi> oky doky
#942 [08:52] <Geo> <NineteenIguy> ... well I wanted a way to ask and answer tutorial, not to read it all up :| but thanks
#943 [08:53] <NineteenIguy> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
#944 [08:53] <Geo> i offer paid support, $100 per/minute
#945 [08:53] <NineteenIguy> oops sorry for that one
#946 [08:53] <westmi> Geo lol
#947 [08:53] <Geo> xD
#948 [08:53] <NineteenIguy> xD lol
#949 [08:53] <clarjon1> Geo: my prices are a bit more reasonable, $70/hr :)
#950 [08:53] <Geo> Very true indeed
#951 [08:53] <NineteenIguy> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki is it this one?
#952 [08:53] <clarjon1> That is the wiki yes
#953 [08:54] <Geo> i can't imagine you have a super duper computer though
#954 [08:54] <NineteenIguy> I pressed the wrong biuuton and it did that again
#955 [08:54] <Geo> How much ram is it running
#956 [08:54] <clarjon1> NineteenIguy: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#957 [08:56] <NineteenIguy> I am there =P
#958 [08:57] <NineteenIguy> can I play on a fix PC and serve it in the same time?
#959 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> Depends on how beefy the server is
#960 [08:58] <NineteenIguy> ... speed test... ... copy... paste....
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#963 [08:59] <NineteenIguy> oh the download speed is stuck...
#964 [09:00] <NineteenIguy> what's Mbps?
#965 [09:00] <GreyVulpine> Megabits per second
#966 [09:01] <goober> Is it possible to change my user name for minecraft?
#967 [09:01] <GreyVulpine> goober - Not at this time
#968 [09:01] <NineteenIguy> GreyVulpine: what is the normal rate? if you know...
#969 [09:01] <goober> thanks
#970 [09:01] <GreyVulpine> NineteenIguy - It depends on your ISP. It varies worldwide
#971 [09:02] <NineteenIguy> mine is 0,16 :(
#972 [09:02] <GreyVulpine> That's.. not good.
#973 [09:02] <goober> I keep getting out of memory errors and the game closes is this a known issue and how can i fix it?
#974 [09:03] <GreyVulpine> goober - Do you run a 64 bit OS? If you do, install 64 bit Java
#975 [09:03] <NineteenIguy> what is RAM?
#976 [09:03] <clarjon1> NineteenIguy: *blink*
#977 [09:03] <goober> 4gb
#978 [09:03] <clarjon1> NineteenIguy: Memory.
#979 [09:03] <GreyVulpine> goober - Do you run a 64 bit OS? If you do, install 64 bit Java
#980 [09:03] <NineteenIguy> I don't remember, I think it's 64
#981 [09:04] <clarjon1> NineteenIguy: GreyVulpine was talking to goober, not you
#982 [09:04] <NineteenIguy> where can I see my ram?
#983 [09:04] <GreyVulpine> My previous question was directed at goober, hence me prefixing my line with goober's name
#984 [09:04] <clarjon1> NineteenIguy: That's why he had goober's ame in front
#985 [09:05] <clarjon1> heh
#986 [09:05] <goober> yes its 64 bit
#987 [09:05] <goober> ill check my java version thanks
#988 [09:05] <NineteenIguy> hehe, but where can I see my RAM?
#989 [09:05] <GreyVulpine> goober - Then uninstall all java from you system, install only the 64 bit java, and you shouldn't get that problem anymore
#990 [09:05] <GreyVulpine> NineteenIguy - What operating system are you on
#991 [09:06] <clarjon1> NineteenIguy: right click My Computer ( or Computer in the start menu, depending on version) and click Properties from the popup menu.
#992 [09:06] <NineteenIguy> GreyVulpine: sorry if this answer is stupid... but I'll respond Laptop
#993 [09:06] <GreyVulpine> Windows? Mac? Linux?
#994 [09:06] <goober> nineteenguy you can hit hit windows key and print screen key at the same time will give you system properties
#995 [09:06] <NineteenIguy> it's in Russian =_= hehe
#996 [09:06] <GreyVulpine> If you're running windows, clarjon1 and goober's instructions are right
#997 [09:07] <amphiboly> I use ramdisk. it helps a bit but it's an ordeal when rebooting
#998 [09:07] <clarjon1> goober: i never knew about that one, nice
#999 [09:07] <NineteenIguy> so the RAM is the installed memory?
#1000 [09:07] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1001 [09:07] <goober> lol im the keyboard master :D
#1002 [09:08] <NineteenIguy> it says 4.00GB
#1003 [09:08] <GreyVulpine> Then you have 4gigabytes of RAM
#1004 [09:08] <NineteenIguy> is that good or bad? xD
#1005 [09:09] <goober> good
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#1007 [09:09] <NineteenIguy> well in megabytes it will be... 4000mb?
#1008 [09:09] <GreyVulpine> Your system seems pretty well suited to running a server. Your internet speeds, not so much
#1009 [09:09] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1010 [09:09] <clarjon1> lanparty :)
#1011 [09:09] <NineteenIguy> GreyVulpine: are you talking to ME?
#1012 [09:09] <GreyVulpine> NineteenIguy - Yes
#1013 [09:09] <amphiboly> it's using a reserved bit of memory as a small fast but volatile disk that must be saved and restored every reboot
#1014 [09:10] <goober> my system is a dal core 3.0 intel with 4gb ram and it ran a server just fine
#1015 [09:10] <NineteenIguy> GreyVulpine: lol, the BIP sound scares me all the time
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#1017 [09:10] <sdousley> westmi: thanks for the reply, I was thinking that might be the case, kind of screws my mob spawner on some of my maps in that case, as the map seems to be in a cold biome, so the water just freezes :(
#1018 [09:11] <westmi> so put it in a warmer biome :)
#1019 [09:12] <goober> are there plans in the future to be able to chang your IGN?
#1020 [09:13] <GreyVulpine> goober - Yes.
#1021 [09:13] <goober> k cuz i used my real name stupidly and its kind of a bad idea..
#1022 [09:13] <amphiboly> Nineteen on win7 you must download the free ramdisk configuration utility. try this=>http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-22-updated-on-nov-6/#rd
#1023 [09:14] <NineteenIguy> lol my upload and download speed is like 0,20, but it wont calculate the answer and says to remove the prefixes, I removed the '.'s and it ran... so my upload and download must be so low that even the web site can't calculate if I should host a server
#1024 [09:14] <GreyVulpine> goober - Just don't expect it anytime soon. That feature's been requested for over a year now
#1025 [09:14] <GreyVulpine> Mojang has said it'll be implemented, we just haven't heard when
#1026 [09:14] <sdousley> westmi: it was a pre-created challenge map
#1027 [09:15] <goober> :(
#1028 [09:15] <sdousley> westmi: I also just read that it's light that melts ice, not heat :(
#1029 [09:15] <westmi> and darkness spawns monsters
#1030 [09:15] <sdousley> westmi: yeh :(
#1031 [09:15] <NineteenIguy> oh! I just needed to write . not ,
#1032 [09:17] <sdousley> hmmmm, maybe I can enclose the water block itself within the spawner within a light proof box
#1033 [09:17] <westmi> well, i'd consider altering your plans then....
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#1035 [09:19] <sdousley> westmi: might have a solution. Though maybe it's a bug
#1036 [09:20] <sdousley> it seems that putting a block directly above the water stops it freezing
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#1039 [09:24] <NineteenIguy> soooo..... I can be a host of a server that is NOT in my house?
#1040 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> Either by paying a hosting provider, or having one of your friends host it for you, sure
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#1042 [09:25] <NineteenIguy> cool beans...
#1043 [09:25] <sdousley> NineteenIguy: I have my own server(s) on my VPS
#1044 [09:25] <NineteenIguy> .. V... P... S?
#1045 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> virtual private server.
#1046 [09:25] <NineteenIguy> oh
#1047 [09:26] <NineteenIguy> Hey, just asking, but can a use Hamachi. And is it legal?
#1048 [09:26] <sdousley> NineteenIguy: yeh, as GreyVulpine said, I get full root access to the server, so can do whatever I want
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#1050 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> You can use hamachi, but don't expect us to help you with it.
#1051 [09:26] <sdousley> as in can you play minecraft over hamache?
#1052 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> Personally, I abhor Hamachi. Absolutely detest it.
#1053 [09:26] <sdousley> the advantage of Hamachi is that you wont need to setup any port forwards/rules in the firewall.
#1054 [09:27] <sdousley> but that's about it
#1055 [09:27] <NineteenIguy> whats so bad about it?
#1056 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> disadvantages include, having to have everybody that wants to join, also having hamachi installed. Hamachi requires significant overhead to use, and can cause problems. It also squats on a 5./8 address space, which is kinda been claimed.
#1057 [09:28] <sdousley> sousley-1 minecraft_server2 # iptables -L
#1058 [09:28] <sdousley> sousley-1 minecraft_server2 # iptables -L
#1059 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> O.o
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#1062 [09:28] <sdousley> fdsfafffdsafdaserm, I have no idea what happened there
#1063 [09:28] <NineteenIguy> well all my friends have hamachi, they played on it, but I am asking things just to be clear... and also if it's legal XD
#1064 [09:28] <AlphaDetisMegas> say minecraft, anyone here have experience with running mc through a proxy/vm ?
#1065 [09:28] <sdousley> my session to my VPS (where I IRC from) just completely froze lol
#1066 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> It's legal, sure.
#1067 [09:29] <sdousley> AlphaDetisMegas: as in using the VM as the client?
#1068 [09:29] <NineteenIguy> why do you say that it need "significan overhead to use"?
#1069 [09:30] <NineteenIguy> You saying it's difficult to use/
#1070 [09:30] <NineteenIguy> ?
#1071 [09:30] <sdousley> NineteenIguy: overhead in using hamachi among other things is the requirement for it to encrypt the traffic to/from the server to your client
#1072 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> Hamachi is a VPN software. It needs bandwidth overhead to create a VPN tunnel. It needs CPU/RAM overhead to run. It also has the potential to create problems in networking.
#1073 [09:31] <NineteenIguy> so you mean it makes the net laggier?
#1074 [09:31] <sdousley> westmi: reading in the wiki, it seems my method of stopping it freeze is a legitimate way
#1075 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes, that's one aspect of it.
#1076 [09:31] <NineteenIguy> lol
#1077 [09:31] <NineteenIguy> you could say that earlier XD
#1078 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> Servers run off of Hamachi won't be as smooth as ones running natively
#1079 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> We've also seen Hamachi cause network problems as well for servers, latency issues, as well as poor routing.
#1080 [09:32] <NineteenIguy> I went to lots of places for info, also YouTube, but some say that "it doesn't work on 1.0.0 now :( <3 kk Lol"
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#1082 [09:33] <NineteenIguy> I mean just some tutorials for not hamachi have the thing that don't work after another version came out
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#1084 [09:34] <NineteenIguy> I just one ONE way to play SMP withouth worrying that I will have to look for a new way after an update
#1085 [09:35] <NineteenIguy> oh! a new java update, a sec please
#1086 [09:37] <sdousley> NineteenIguy: why worry? All you have to do after an update is update the server and client.
#1087 [09:37] <sdousley> or update neither
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#1089 [09:38] <ALJORUB> HOW DO I REMOVE TMI
#1090 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> FORCE UPDATE THROUGH THE LAUNCHER
#1091 [09:39] <ALJORUB> thanx will it remove my saves and the itens i got threw tmi and can it break the game
#1092 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't touch your saves.
#1093 [09:39] <ALJORUB> can it break the game
#1094 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> Not unless you had other mods installed as well.
#1095 [09:40] <ALJORUB> i didnt
#1096 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> Then no.
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#1098 [09:41] <ALJORUB> i got told i had to delete a folder called meta somthing like that so i did is that wright
#1099 [09:41] <sdousley> ALJORUB: that'll get replaced once you force update
#1100 [09:41] <sdousley> when you force update, it will re-download the .jar files
#1101 [09:41] <ALJORUB> thanx
#1102 [09:42] <ALJORUB> it worked and i got to keep the items thankyou
#1103 [09:42] <sdousley> :)
#1104 [09:42] <sdousley> Items aren't stored in the jar's is why, they're stored in saves
#1105 [09:43] <ALJORUB> i get it now is tmi safe to use all of the time
#1106 [09:44] <sdousley> depends what you want
#1107 [09:44] <sdousley> it's "safe"
#1108 [09:44] <ALJORUB> dimond armor
#1109 [09:44] <sdousley> but it does mean you dont have to "farm" anything
#1110 [09:45] <ALJORUB> why is that
#1111 [09:45] <sdousley> cos you just get it from TMI into your inventory
#1112 [09:45] <sdousley> if I understand TMI correctly
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#1114 [09:45] <AlphaDetisMegas> sdousley: whoops I was otherwise occuptied, sorry about that :/
#1115 [09:46] <AlphaDetisMegas> ask for help, go away, pretty rude from me...
#1116 [09:46] <ALJORUB> i only used it fore dimond armor does that mean i cant get killed by mobs
#1117 [09:46] <sdousley> AlphaDetisMegas: hehe np, I often just disappear on IRC
#1118 [09:46] <sdousley> ALJORUB: doesn't mean you CANT. Does mean it's harder
#1119 [09:47] <AlphaDetisMegas> sdousley: it being a client, you mean to minecraft, or the proxy?
#1120 [09:47] <sdousley> you asked if anyone had experience of running minecraft through a proxy or VM
#1121 [09:47] <sdousley> I meant are you trying to access minecraft installed on the VM
#1122 [09:47] <AlphaDetisMegas> no, no
#1123 [09:47] <ALJORUB> oh thankyou if i have only been on minecraft for two weeks and havnt killed much wich difuclty do you think i should be on
#1124 [09:47] <ALJORUB> sorry for my bad engilish
#1125 [09:48] <AlphaDetisMegas> ALJORUB: I find your english to be allright
#1126 [09:48] <sdousley> ALJORUB: if you want to get used to the game, play it in creative mode, that will allow you to just use items as you require, you can learn to build stuff as well
#1127 [09:48] <ALJORUB> how do i get on that
#1128 [09:49] <AlphaDetisMegas> I'm trying to know if running minecraft through a vm, should make it connect to the minecraft login servers just fine,(cause vm's usually work around proxies somehow(like school networks)
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#1130 [09:50] <AlphaDetisMegas> or, if that should not work, how I could make mc work by running it through a proxy(Settings/possible programs to use)
#1131 [09:50] <sdousley> ALJORUB: when you start a new world, you can click the "Game Mode" till it says creative
#1132 [09:50] <ALJORUB> thankyou
#1133 [09:50] <AlphaDetisMegas> dont ever do hardcore on first try :D
#1134 [09:50] <ALJORUB> i did
#1135 [09:51] <NineteenIguy> oh oh oh oh! Can I "pay" for someone to host a server for me/us?
#1136 [09:52] <TheNoodle> You can NineteenIguy.
#1137 [09:52] <NineteenIguy> thanks
#1138 [09:53] <TheNoodle> Personal recommendations of hosting companies: BeastNode and AllGamer.
#1139 [09:53] <sdousley> AlphaDetisMegas: if you're trying to get to play MC at Uni, then using a VM to get round the proxy may/may not work.
#1140 [09:53] <TheNoodle> http://beastnode.com and http://allgamer.com respectively.
#1141 [09:53] <AlphaDetisMegas> its not uni, comparable though
#1142 [09:54] <sdousley> AlphaDetisMegas: also, if the issue is with the Minecraft login servers being rejected
#1143 [09:54] <sdousley> It's likely there's some filter in the network blocking requests by IP, that ALL traffic will go through, proxied or not
#1144 [09:55] <sdousley> at least if it's setup as I would expect that'd be the case anyway
#1145 [09:55] <AlphaDetisMegas> sdousley: indeed
#1146 [09:55] <AlphaDetisMegas> one using for instance a SSL tunnel can however bypass this
#1147 [09:55] <sdousley> if that's the case, then no legitimate version of MC (to my knowledge) will work on the network
#1148 [09:55] <sdousley> true, you could use some form of tunnel to "escape" the network
#1149 [09:55] <sdousley> I guess that should work
#1150 [09:55] <AlphaDetisMegas> sdousley: thanks for trying to help me though
#1151 [09:56] <sdousley> but that's one for you to be taking up with the network admins
#1152 [09:56] <AlphaDetisMegas> it does, but I cant setup a ssl tunnel, due to idiots at home
#1153 [09:56] <sdousley> they put these restrictions in for good reason :P
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#1155 [09:56] <AlphaDetisMegas> sdousley: ya I know
#1156 [09:56] <Diagoras> Hello guys
#1157 [09:56] <sdousley> hi Diagoras
#1158 [09:56] <Diagoras> I can't login to the website for some reason.
#1159 [09:56] <Diagoras> :'(
#1160 [09:56] <sdousley> Diagoras: can you get onto the website?
#1161 [09:57] <sdousley> as in do you see the login screen
#1162 [09:57] <Diagoras> Yeah, and I enter my username and password.
#1163 [09:57] <AlphaDetisMegas> I'm a ICTer, and we constantly break shit here, because lol, school's security sucs
#1164 [09:57] <AlphaDetisMegas> *sucks
#1165 [09:57] <sdousley> AlphaDetisMegas: haha yeh
#1166 [09:57] <Diagoras> Wait - it just worked.
#1167 [09:57] <Diagoras> Well.
#1168 [09:57] <sdousley> hehe
#1169 [09:57] <Diagoras> That's embarrasing.
#1170 [09:57] <Diagoras> :p
#1171 [09:57] <AlphaDetisMegas> wer point out a lot of flaws though
#1172 [09:57] <sdousley> I seen worse
#1173 [09:58] <sdousley> AlphaDetisMegas: there's no real way to stop all traffic going out. like I use linux, and could just setup an SSH tunnel out the network to do whatever I wanted.
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#1175 [09:58] <AlphaDetisMegas> sdousley: dont you need a active machine at home for that? or somet other place you can connect to?
#1176 [09:58] <sdousley> AlphaDetisMegas: I have a VPS ;)
#1177 [09:59] <sdousley> that's where I IRC from
#1178 [09:59] <sdousley> that's where I IRC from
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#1180 [09:59] <sdousley> hosted in some Data Centre somewhere
#1181 [09:59] <sdousley> so rarely ever down
#1182 [09:59] <AlphaDetisMegas> sdousley: costly?
#1183 [09:59] <sdousley> AlphaDetisMegas: I pay $15 for mine
#1184 [09:59] <sdousley> some are cheaper (though probably have less reliable bandwidth/hardware)
#1185 [09:59] <sdousley> others are more
#1186 [10:01] <sdousley> I didn't get the VPS for MC though, I got it for personal websites etc, it just had the advantage of being able to use as a MC server
#1187 [10:08] <NineteenIguy> I am so unlucky... my net is the highest mps that there is on Earth
#1188 [10:08] <NineteenIguy> or on Mars
#1189 [10:08] <NineteenIguy> and or other planet
#1190 [10:10] <AlphaDetisMegas> NineteenIguy: dps?
#1191 [10:10] <AlphaDetisMegas> IT DAMAGES THE MOST
#1192 [10:10] <NineteenIguy> or that
#1193 [10:10] <NineteenIguy> no
#1194 [10:10] <NineteenIguy> I mean my lagg is so big on Multiplayer that I will kill my PC
#1195 [10:11] <AlphaDetisMegas> Ah
#1196 [10:11] <AlphaDetisMegas> yeah, lag is never great
#1197 [10:11] <NineteenIguy> I wanted to play some multiplayer...
#1198 [10:11] <AlphaDetisMegas> is it hardware, or network lag?
#1199 [10:11] <Geo> i did warn you earlier that for running a server and playing you need up-to-day hardware
#1200 [10:12] <NineteenIguy> network, my cable wires (outside) are too far from my house =_= stupid builders built it badly
#1201 [10:12] <AlphaDetisMegas> fiberglass cuts of too far from your house :(
#1202 [10:12] <NineteenIguy> Geo: I know, I was now testing a server... it was... bad
#1203 [10:12] <Geo> lol
#1204 [10:12] <Geo> I assume you don't have a budget p/m for a server
#1205 [10:13] <NineteenIguy> I don't know how you call it, but it's the wires above our houses that give us electicity... those wires are too far from mah house
#1206 [10:13] <NineteenIguy> My PING is 170 - 500 ms
#1207 [10:13] <Geo> wow
#1208 [10:13] <NineteenIguy> I hate it
#1209 [10:13] <NineteenIguy> no
#1210 [10:16] <TheNoodle> So, how is everyone today?
#1211 [10:17] <AlphaDetisMegas> good, apart from not being able to mc while I wait for mah train
#1212 [10:20] <Geo> Get an iPhone
#1213 [10:20] <Geo> or an Android for that matter
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#1215 [10:21] <Diagoras> Hey guys:
#1216 [10:21] <Diagoras> I'm trying to connect to the Minecraft server I set up.
#1217 [10:22] <Geo> yerp
#1218 [10:22] <Diagoras> And I keep getting invalid server key/end of stream errors.
#1219 [10:22] <Diagoras> Ports are open, and port check confirms that it can see 25565 on the server.
#1220 [10:22] <zunkdemun> Hey. I having problem allready at startup of the game. It's like a laggy startup and u can't get past the "Mojang" welcome screen. would be great if anyone could help.
#1221 [10:23] <TheNoodle> Diagoras, can you connect locally?
#1222 [10:23] <TheNoodle> zunkdemun, operating system?
#1223 [10:23] <zunkdemun> win7 32 bit
#1224 [10:23] <Diagoras> Good idea, let me try.
#1225 [10:24] <zunkdemun> the thing is i played yesterday and it worked fine, havent done any updates of windows or any other drivers, tryed to update java but nothing.
#1226 [10:24] <Diagoras> That's weird - can't login to the website from the server computer. I'll just FTP the Minecraft client file over, will take a bit longer.
#1227 [10:26] <TheNoodle> zunkdemun, so absolutely nothing has changed?
#1228 [10:27] <zunkdemun> nope, it happened before. and when it happens i just restart my comp and it works. but it's getting old to restart the comp everytime i wanna play
#1229 [10:28] <TheNoodle> Sounds almost like a memory leak somewhere tbh.
#1230 [10:28] <zunkdemun> allright, is there a way to fix that?
#1231 [10:30] <zunkdemun> cuz before i had troubles with almost everygame i played, got errors like all the time so i updated my graphic driver and every game worked fine, but not minecraft
#1232 [10:31] <sdousley> zunkdemun: I get that at home too, where I have to restart to be able to play again
#1233 [10:31] <sdousley> I'm also on Win 7, but mine's 64-bit windows
#1234 [10:31] <zunkdemun> allright, good to know im not alone :P
#1235 [10:31] <sdousley> I just put it down to something on my computer
#1236 [10:32] <TheNoodle> hmm
#1237 [10:33] <TheNoodle> Next time it happens could I get you guys to do something for me?
#1238 [10:33] <zunkdemun> sure, it will appear as soon as i start minecraft
#1239 [10:33] <TheNoodle> Okay, I need you to go to command prompt and type tasklist > c:\
#1240 [10:33] <TheNoodle> * tasklist > c:\stuff.txt
#1241 [10:34] <TheNoodle> and put the contents of stuff.txt on pastebin.
#1242 [10:35] <zunkdemun> aight think i got it
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#1244 [10:37] <TheNoodle> ..
#1245 [10:37] <TheNoodle> I said on pastebin.
#1246 [10:37] <zunkdemun> oh that counted as spam sorry =P
#1247 [10:37] <TheNoodle> you got kicked from the network for flooding >.>
#1248 [10:37] <zunkdemun> yeh ^^
#1249 [10:37] <zunkdemun> sry dunno what u mena with pasebin =P
#1250 [10:37] <zunkdemun> mean *
#1251 [10:38] <Diagoras> It's a website.
#1252 [10:38] <ALJORUB> i have used tmi to make a endermen portal but how do i remove the blocks
#1253 [10:38] <zunkdemun> okay thanks
#1254 [10:38] <TheNoodle> ??> ALJORUB mods
#1255 [10:38] <VoxelHead> ALJORUB: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1256 [10:38] <VoxelHead> ALJORUB: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1257 [10:38] <TheNoodle> ??> zunkdemun pastebin
#1258 [10:38] <VoxelHead> zunkdemun: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1259 [10:39] <zunkdemun> got it
#1260 [10:40] <zunkdemun> http://pastebin.com/mdTLAFTu
#1261 [10:42] <TheNoodle> Okay, nothing there is standing out, how much ram does your computer have?
#1262 [10:43] <zunkdemun> 4 gig, i know i should have 64 bits win.. :P
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#1264 [10:44] <TheNoodle> Okay, well there's your first problem :p
#1265 [10:45] <zunkdemun> Allright. Probebly a good time to format the whole comp anyway.
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#1267 [10:46] <TheNoodle> You only have access to 3.25gb from memory.
#1268 [10:46] <TheNoodle> I'd suggest getting a 64bit OS and 64bit java.
#1269 [10:46] <zunkdemun> yeah i know, i have a 64 bit cd around here somewhere but when i installed windows the last time i picked the wrong cd, with 32 bit.. -.-
#1270 [10:47] <zunkdemun> But allright. Thank you so much for your help. super greatful. Im off the reinstall windows now. cya!
#1271 [10:50] <sdousley> TheNoodle: it's not likely to be cos he's running 64-bit and 4GB Ram
#1272 [10:50] <sdousley> the only issue that'll have is that he probably cant see ALL The ram
#1273 [10:50] <sdousley> but I have 64-bit and have the same issue, so upgrading to 64-bit wont necesarily fix it
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#1275 [10:50] <TheNoodle> I know that's not the problem :P
#1276 [10:50] <sdousley> TheNoodle: hehe ok
#1277 [10:51] <TheNoodle> But it's like updating java, while it's not always helpful it's better.
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#1281 [10:59] <Brandon_Johns> Can someone help me? I am having trouble buying minecraft
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#1283 [11:02] <TheNoodle> How can we help you krakentime?
#1284 [11:02] <krakentime> Well, I keep getting an error when trying to use my bank account mastercard that my deposits have been disabled for 24 hours, and it said the same thing yesterday
#1285 [11:03] <krakentime> Also, trying to use paypal just results in it saying the transaction failed
#1286 [11:03] <TheNoodle> Try calling the bank and telling them you want to make an international transaction.
#1287 [11:03] <krakentime> I did, it still didn't work
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#1289 [11:04] <TheNoodle> In that case, not much we can do to help.
#1290 [11:04] <TheNoodle> ??> krakentime payment
#1291 [11:04] <VoxelHead> krakentime: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1292 [11:04] <VoxelHead> krakentime: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#1293 [11:04] <TheNoodle> ...heh
#1294 [11:04] <TheNoodle> ignore that :P
#1295 [11:05] <krakentime> Why wouldn't it work with paypal though? Would it help if I put funds on paypal?
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#1297 [11:06] <TheNoodle> Probably yes.
#1298 [11:06] <krakentime> Would that actually take 3-5 days?
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#1300 [11:10] <TheNoodle> It depends on your bank.
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#1303 [11:11] <thesage> hey anyone here?
#1304 [11:11] <bryanwaffles> Yea
#1305 [11:11] <thesage> hey i have a question
#1306 [11:11] <bryanwaffles> ?
#1307 [11:11] <thesage> if you would be soooo kind
#1308 [11:11] <thesage> whats up with the experience bar and experience levels
#1309 [11:11] <TheNoodle> They're used for enchanting I believe.
#1310 [11:11] <thesage> enchanting
#1311 [11:11] <thesage> okay
#1312 [11:12] <thesage> i understand that i have to surround something with bookcases in order to enchant
#1313 [11:12] <thesage> correct?
#1314 [11:12] <bryanwaffles> You get experience from killing mobs and you go up a level each time you fill the bar. You put weps in the enchanting table and if you see your level click it and your wep is enchanted.
#1315 [11:12] <TheNoodle> In order to achieve higher enchanting levels bookcases are required yes.
#1316 [11:12] <thesage> but to cast basic enchantments, i dont NEED bookcases?
#1317 [11:13] <TheNoodle> nope
#1318 [11:13] <thesage> ok awesome
#1319 [11:13] <TheNoodle> I think you're fine up until level 3.
#1320 [11:13] <thesage> ah
#1321 [11:13] <TheNoodle> That being said
#1322 [11:13] <TheNoodle> I have no idea what that means.
#1323 [11:13] <thesage> well ive just been mining and fighting mobs and my level says 5
#1324 [11:13] <thesage> hahahah ok
#1325 [11:14] <thesage> now i wonder when i enchant something, do my levels of experience decrease
#1326 [11:14] <thesage> like, will i have to constantly gain levels in order to have sufficient experience to cast more enchants
#1327 [11:15] <thesage> or do they stay when you cast an enchant
#1328 [11:15] <thesage> i have no idea how to even cast an enchant
#1329 [11:17] <thesage> so diamond only spawns at the bottom 16 layers of the map
#1330 [11:17] <thesage> i was wondering what is the most efficient way to find diamond
#1331 [11:17] <thesage> or to mine, in general
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#1333 [11:17] <NineteenIguy> oh hello!
#1334 [11:17] <TheNoodle> look on levels 12 to 15 for diamond I believe.
#1335 [11:18] <NineteenIguy> hey a little question.
#1336 [11:18] <thesage> hello guy
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#1338 [11:18] <NineteenIguy> I was playing creative and making some MECHANISMS-things, and noticed that the water started turning into ice... question: will it turn back?
#1339 [11:19] <NineteenIguy> I wasn't in a snow biome
#1340 [11:19] <TheNoodle> hmmm
#1341 [11:19] <TheNoodle> It may.
#1342 [11:19] <NineteenIguy> I was in forests and swamps... and flew to other places and it started to turn ice aswell
#1343 [11:19] <TheNoodle> You could thaw it with some torches though.
#1344 [11:20] <NineteenIguy> It started when I kelled a dragon
#1345 [11:20] <NineteenIguy> (on creative)
#1346 [11:20] <thesage> dragons?
#1347 [11:20] <thesage> there are dragons?
#1348 [11:20] <thesage> ive never seen a dragon
#1349 [11:20] <NineteenIguy> my brother joked that I killed the Lich King's favourute dragon and he frozen my whater XD
#1350 [11:20] <TheNoodle> lol
#1351 [11:21] <NineteenIguy> ... yes since 1.9 pre-reliese :)
#1352 [11:21] <NineteenIguy> thesage: they are in the END - the land of ENDERMEN!
#1353 [11:21] <NineteenIguy> and the enderdragon
#1354 [11:21] <NineteenIguy> they say it's the end of the game
#1355 [11:22] <NineteenIguy> but I bet notch will change that
#1356 [11:22] <thesage> hmm
#1357 [11:22] <thesage> ive never been there
#1358 [11:22] <thesage> ive only gotten to the nether
#1359 [11:22] <NineteenIguy> But the frozen water made me think if I got "The Ender Curse"
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#1361 [11:22] <NineteenIguy> it just frozen all the water, block by block
#1362 [11:23] <NineteenIguy> wiyh no snow coming or other freezing thing
#1363 [11:23] <NineteenIguy> I did see a creeper frozen in the water XD
#1364 [11:23] <NineteenIguy> he was sufucating
#1365 [11:24] <NineteenIguy> I helped him... but he exploded...
#1366 [11:24] <thesage> haha
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#1368 [11:24] <NineteenIguy> was it Ice Age?
#1369 [11:24] <thesage> whata jerk
#1370 [11:24] <thesage> exploding like that
#1371 [11:24] <thesage> i was wondering
#1372 [11:24] <NineteenIguy> yeah... stupid terrorists... WHY WONT YOU BE PEACEFULL!?
#1373 [11:25] <thesage> why do creepers never do anything nice?
#1374 [11:25] <thesage> its always explode boom ur dead hahaha
#1375 [11:25] <NineteenIguy> Because they are terrorrists
#1376 [11:25] <NineteenIguy> ... there is no haha... they dye with you XD
#1377 [11:25] <thesage> i think they haha from the grave
#1378 [11:25] <thesage> or when you get the red screen
#1379 [11:25] <thesage> they are going hahahahaahhaa
#1380 [11:25] <NineteenIguy> so it's - sss>fuck?>boom>...
#1381 [11:25] * AuBot kicked NineteenIguy from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ineteenIguy :Please keep it civil.)
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#1383 [11:26] <thesage> lawl
#1384 [11:26] <thesage> no swarez :3
#1385 [11:26] <NineteenIguy> what did you say? I was reloaded
#1386 [11:26] <thesage> you dropped an f-bomb
#1387 [11:27] <NineteenIguy> I have no info of last comments you posted, why were you lawling?!
#1388 [11:27] <NineteenIguy> f-bomb?
#1389 [11:27] <thesage> sss>fawwk?>boom
#1390 [11:27] <thesage> f-word = f-bomb
#1391 [11:27] <thesage> except... yeah
#1392 [11:27] <thesage> bot kicked you
#1393 [11:27] <NineteenIguy> oh... so that's why I was reconnected
#1394 [11:27] <NineteenIguy> sorry
#1395 [11:27] <thesage> yepp
#1396 [11:28] <thesage> oh i dont mind
#1397 [11:28] <thesage> i cuss like a sailor
#1398 [11:28] <thesage> lol
#1399 [11:28] <NineteenIguy> sss>fuuuuu>boom>,,,
#1400 [11:28] <thesage> sssss>wat?> BOOMMMMM
#1401 [11:29] <NineteenIguy> Oh you matee! |reconnect| you! I will |recconect| your mother! |reconnect|
#1402 [11:29] <thesage> i wish there were skills
#1403 [11:29] <NineteenIguy> XD
#1404 [11:29] <NineteenIguy> yeah
#1405 [11:29] <thesage> like since they have experience levels now
#1406 [11:29] <thesage> you should be able to put a few of your levels into skills
#1407 [11:29] <NineteenIguy> well Minecraft isn't WoW
#1408 [11:29] <thesage> no no no
#1409 [11:29] <thesage> but it would improve the over-all gameplay
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#1411 [11:30] <thesage> it would give the game more depth
#1412 [11:30] <NineteenIguy> well Notch hasn't time for everything
#1413 [11:30] <thesage> you could level up to 10, put 5 levels into mining skill, increase your mining speed... perhaps drop rate
#1414 [11:30] <thesage> then you would still have 5 levels to create enchants
#1415 [11:31] <NineteenIguy> nah... I prefer no skill
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#1417 [11:31] <thesage> i understand its a sandbox game
#1418 [11:32] <NineteenIguy> so things like that are a bit off the context
#1419 [11:32] <thesage> but there is so many things you can do with an experience bar and experience levels
#1420 [11:32] <thesage> if theyre included in the game, why not utilize them
#1421 [11:32] <thesage> brb
#1422 [11:32] <NineteenIguy> k
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#1424 [11:37] <NineteenIguy> brb too
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#1426 [11:38] <NineteenIguy> back
#1427 [11:41] <NineteenIguy> so... where are you?
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#1429 [11:42] <NineteenIguy> I'll go to #minecraft (if want to join write: join #minecraft
#1430 [11:43] <mlinkou> Hi, I am currently having problem to connect to minecraft. Is it normal?
#1431 [11:43] <NineteenIguy> (I mean /join #minecraft
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#1433 [11:43] <mlinkou> The official minecraft server in order to retrieve the binaries
#1434 [11:45] <ReMIx> It says i half to login to download after i bought it and it says "user not premium (Not Download)"
#1435 [11:46] <ReMIx> When i login it says user not premium
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#1437 [11:47] <mib_yjpz59> Hello, my minecraft dont run... there is is only a black display when i start the world.
#1438 [11:47] <mib_yjpz59> ?
#1439 [11:47] <mib_yjpz59> what i have to do?
#1440 [11:47] <mlinkou> Hi
#1441 [11:48] <mib_yjpz59> hi
#1442 [11:48] <mlinkou> did you try by creating a new world?
#1443 [11:48] <mib_yjpz59> yes
#1444 [11:49] <mlinkou> hum ... sorry can"t help you, I am having problem too, but it is not the same
#1445 [11:49] <mib_yjpz59> what yours?
#1446 [11:49] <mlinkou> i can"t login in order to retrieve the binaries ... (my account is valid i managed to connect on minecraft.net)
#1447 [11:50] <mib_yjpz59> í dont know sorry.
#1448 [11:50] <mlinkou> did you got your problem only today?
#1449 [11:50] <mib_yjpz59> i get i now...
#1450 [11:51] <mlinkou> but when did you play correctly to the game?
#1451 [11:51] <mlinkou> did you got any update recently?
#1452 [11:51] <mib_yjpz59> yes..
#1453 [11:51] <mib_yjpz59> today
#1454 [11:51] <mlinkou> hum ...
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#1456 [11:52] <mlinkou> maybe try to redownload the minecraft binaries
#1457 [11:52] <mlinkou> are you on windows?
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#1459 [11:52] <mlinkou> you can force update at the login screen if think
#1460 [11:52] <ReMIx> It says when i sign in ,after i bought it, it says "user not premium" and at bottem it says (Not Download)
#1461 [11:53] <mlinkou> Me i get "Can"t connect to minecraft.net"
#1462 [11:54] <ReMIx> mines ben doing not since yesterday
#1463 [11:54] <mlinkou> @ReMix go there and check if there is written "already premium" http://www.minecraft.net/store
#1464 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> mlinkou - Has it ever worked before?
#1465 [11:54] <mlinkou> yes it has work before
#1466 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> mlinkou - On the same computer?
#1467 [11:55] <mlinkou> i just want to see if someone is having the problem too
#1468 [11:55] <mlinkou> yes on the same computer
#1469 [11:55] <mlinkou> i don"t think it is a Firewall problem (it is disabled)
#1470 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> mlinkou - Could you head to: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=notch&password=notreal&version=13
#1471 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you're getting Bad login with that link
#1472 [11:56] <mlinkou> yep bad login
#1473 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> mlinkou - Then I'm pretty sure it's a firewall issue
#1474 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> Your computer can connect to the login server just fine, and it's up.
#1475 [11:56] <mlinkou> i just put my credentials
#1476 [11:56] <ReMIx> @mlinkou were do i find it at?
#1477 [11:56] <mlinkou> and i got deprecated
#1478 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> Just something's blocking minecraft, likely a firewall program, from communicating directly with the login server
#1479 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> mlinkou - Yes, that's right.
#1480 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> mlinkou - I'd recheck your security software
#1481 [11:58] <mlinkou> hum ... it is normal to get deprecated when i put valid credentials?
#1482 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> Yes, that particular field isn't in use, but the rest is
#1483 [11:58] <mlinkou> ok
#1484 [11:59] <mlinkou> i will try at home then
#1485 [11:59] <mlinkou> thanks
#1486 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> If the login server was actually down, you wouldn't get a response back from that URL.. and we'd get hundreds of rabid fans in here demanding to know why it's down
#1487 [11:59] <mlinkou> ok lol
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#1489 [12:00] <NineteenIguy> what is NSFW?
#1490 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> not safe for work
#1491 [12:00] <NineteenIguy> lol
#1492 [12:00] <xboi209> How do I find an ip address of a server if the owner if I can't contact the owner?
#1493 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Not possible
#1494 [12:00] <NineteenIguy> Naked on Sale for Workers
#1495 [12:01] <ReMIx> were do i find "already premium"?
#1496 [12:01] <mlinkou> http://www.minecraft.net/store
#1497 [12:01] <NineteenIguy> Nice Susan F*cking World
#1498 [12:01] <ReMIx> yea but were i looked
#1499 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> NineteenIguy - Cut it out.
#1500 [12:01] <mlinkou> first "This account is already premium"
#1501 [12:01] <ReMIx> k
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#1504 [12:02] <ReMIx> it dosnt say anything
#1505 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> ReMIx - Minecraft usename?
#1506 [12:03] <ReMIx> ReMIx_ADroppeN
#1507 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> !paid ReMIx_ADroppeN
#1508 [12:03] <mlinkou> lol
#1509 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> Mojang most likely hasn't received confirmation of payment from your credit card/bank/payment provider
#1510 [12:03] <ReMIx> ?
#1511 [12:04] <ReMIx> yea i think my bank is closed
#1512 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> I'd call up your banking institution, make sure there's a record of payment going to Mojang AB for minecraft
#1513 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> If there is, you can contact Mojang, if there isn't, you need to call up your bank
#1514 [12:05] <mlinkou> GreyVulpine, it is possible to launch the binary in debug mode in order to see where the problem is?
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#1517 [12:10] <mib_w9qq1b> hi im a newbie to minecraft, trying to get onto the beta, it says press b and i have but it is not starting... help?
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#1520 [12:11] <HI> hello?
#1521 [12:11] <HI> ...
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#1523 [12:11] <HI> I need help running the beta
#1524 [12:11] <HI> =3
#1525 [12:11] <Redux> Welcome. Can someone help me with minecraft? http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/796192-graphics-bug-and-low-fps/
#1526 [12:11] <Redux> There is a final version, why do you want Beta?
#1527 [12:11] <xales> HI: Beta doesn't exist any more
#1528 [12:12] <HI> I need help getting on the beta, i go on, press b.... and nothing happens. It says to press b to run it though?
#1529 [12:12] <HI> Well how can i test before i buy if beta does not exist? :(
#1530 [12:12] <Skable> uh...?
#1531 [12:12] <xales> HI: By "beta" do you mean "classic"?
#1532 [12:12] <Skable> ^
#1533 [12:12] <HI> Yeah, sorry :)
#1534 [12:12] <xales> ??> HI demo
#1535 [12:12] <VoxelHead> HI: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#1536 [12:12] <VoxelHead> HI: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#1537 [12:13] <xales> Redux: Try reinstalling your graphics card drivers
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#1539 [12:13] <HI> i cant download stuff.
#1540 [12:13] <Redux> Can anyone help me with this? http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/796192-graphics-bug-and-low-fps/ ;sorry for external link, but it's complicated problem.
#1541 [12:13] <xales> HI: Then you will not be able to play Minecraft, which requires Java
#1542 [12:13] <xales> Redux: Try reinstalling your graphics card drivers.
#1543 [12:13] <HI> I cant, sorry. I would if i could. ROFLSHMSFOAIDMT
#1544 [12:14] <HI> how i do that?
#1545 [12:14] <xales> HI: Do what?
#1546 [12:14] <Redux> Reinstalled about 3 times. But I don't have any problems with graphics in other games. :(
#1547 [12:14] <HI> reinstalling the what what wahaa...?
#1548 [12:14] <xales> HI: That was not for you, which is why someone else's name was prefixed
#1549 [12:14] <HI> oh sorry...
#1550 [12:15] <xales> Redux: Oh, your card is still...blech
#1551 [12:15] <xales> yeah, you're not going to get any better FPS with a card that is that old
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#1553 [12:15] <HI> it downloaded, but im pressing run - nothing happens.
#1554 [12:15] <Redux> But before CPU change I don't have any things like there...
#1555 [12:15] <OMGWTFBBQHOAX> HI: www.java.com/download/index.jsp
#1556 [12:15] <xales> HI: Once again, you need to have Java installed
#1557 [12:15] <MineHelp> I get a Pixel Error
#1558 [12:15] <OMGWTFBBQHOAX> HI: try installing java, if you dont have it already.
#1559 [12:16] <xales> Redux: It's because of the graphics card; just play on Fast graphics
#1560 [12:16] <MineHelp> I have it
#1561 [12:16] <Redux> Fast graphics are holding me in 20 FPS...
#1562 [12:16] <MineHelp> i got Windows 7 32bit and you sure you support 32bit?
#1563 [12:17] <Redux> In Intel Celeron D I was playing with 30-40 FPS but haven't got any craps like I'm getting any time I play. :(
#1564 [12:17] <Redux> Forgive my english. Just warning.
#1565 [12:17] <Redux> ;p
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#1567 [12:19] <UnicornQueen23> I'm having problems allocating more RAM to my server, I've created the bat file and tried all the codes that I've found, but it still won't work.
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#1569 [12:19] <HI> thanx OMGWTFBBQ
#1570 [12:20] <xboi209> Hey guys, my sound on minecraft won't work
#1571 [12:20] <xboi209> Any idea?
#1572 [12:20] <Redux> And what? I must wait unknown time for help? I REALLY want to play Minecraft without any problems like before CPU change... :(
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#1574 [12:22] <UnicornQueen23> If someone thinks they can help me, PM me and I'll give the full details, I'll leave the window open and check back in a bit.
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#1576 [12:24] <xboi209> My sound on WOM won't work D:
#1577 [12:24] <thesage> is your sound on anything working?
#1578 [12:24] <xboi209> Ya
#1579 [12:24] <xboi209> it is
#1580 [12:24] <xboi209> but it's just WOM
#1581 [12:25] <thesage> it may be java
#1582 [12:25] <xboi209> that isnt working
#1583 [12:25] <xboi209> I have latest java installed
#1584 [12:25] <thesage> well if your sound is working on your media player
#1585 [12:25] <thesage> but its not working in game
#1586 [12:25] <xboi209> It is
#1587 [12:25] <xboi209> mhmm
#1588 [12:25] <thesage> try reinstalling the game
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#1590 [12:26] <xboi209> Did that already
#1591 [12:26] <thesage> try reinstalling java
#1592 [12:26] <xboi209> -.-
#1593 [12:26] <thesage> its a java game
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#1595 [12:26] <xboi209> If I play in the browser, sound works but in WOM, it doesnt
#1596 [12:26] <thesage> java is.... derp.
#1597 [12:26] <xboi209> I'm pretty sure java didn't utterly screw up
#1598 [12:27] <xboi209> Except one time
#1599 [12:27] <thesage> ...
#1600 [12:27] <thesage> lol
#1601 [12:27] <xboi209> when I tried uninstalling it
#1602 [12:27] <thesage> java always gives me hell
#1603 [12:27] <xboi209> but it won't let me
#1604 [12:27] <xboi209> Funny thing is, I came up with a fix that no one else made yet
#1605 [12:27] <thesage> its either java or some kind of conflict
#1606 [12:27] <xboi209> o well
#1607 [12:27] <thesage> because your sound card is working obv.
#1608 [12:28] <thesage> i doubt its a hardware issue
#1609 [12:28] <thesage> so its either 2 or more programs are conflicting with the audio
#1610 [12:28] <thesage> or its java
#1611 [12:29] <thesage> other than that i dunno bud
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#1613 [12:30] <thesage> im about to fire up my MC
#1614 [12:30] <thesage> see if i can enchant
#1615 [12:30] <thesage> i wish i could find a good survival server
#1616 [12:30] <flabbergaster> why do chests and signs and enchentment tables ect. go all wonky with the shading still? i thought it was fixed
#1617 [12:31] <thesage> are your drivers updated?
#1618 [12:31] <flabbergaster> idk
#1619 [12:32] <thesage> update your graphics drivers
#1620 [12:32] <thesage> see if it is fixed
#1621 [12:32] <thesage> if not, its the game
#1622 [12:32] <thesage> and itll have to be patched
#1623 [12:33] <flabbergaster> im scared of doind that :/ i did that last time on my old laptop and it got the BSOD the day after
#1624 [12:33] <thesage> download the drivers from the manufacturer's website
#1625 [12:34] <thesage> and make sure you get the right driver
#1626 [12:34] <thesage> match seriels, if you have to
#1627 [12:34] <flabbergaster> i might try l8r, im at school so the internetz sucks :)
#1628 [12:35] <thesage> soz
#1629 [12:35] <flabbergaster> peace ty
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#1631 [12:39] <skejoe> i need help with my minecraft files and that stuff
#1632 [12:40] <skejoe> i wanted to install a mod and failed, i had to delete my bin file
#1633 [12:40] <skejoe> and launch minecraft but it didn't start
#1634 [12:40] <skejoe> unusual
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#1638 [12:42] <Wug> mollstam, you alive
#1639 [12:44] <Wug> this channel is great when it's quiet
#1640 [12:45] * Wug practices playing brass instruments
#1640 [12:45] <skejoe> this is made to ask questions?
#1641 [12:45] * Wug stops playing
#1641 [12:45] <Wug> thats what it's here for, yes
#1642 [12:45] <skejoe> good
#1643 [12:45] <skejoe> can u read my question upper in
#1644 [12:46] <TheNoodle> skejoe, when you open the launcher click on options and then force update, then log in.
#1645 [12:46] <skejoe> a few lines over
#1646 [12:46] <Wug> do what TheNoodle said
#1647 [12:46] <skejoe> hope it will
#1648 [12:46] <TheNoodle> :3
#1649 [12:46] * Wug picks up tuba
#1649 [12:47] <skejoe> same error as before
#1650 [12:47] <Wug> skejoe: what is the error, you forgot to tell us
#1651 [12:47] <skejoe> fatal error occured (4) :null
#1652 [12:47] <Wug> try disabling any antivirus programs you might have
#1653 [12:47] <skejoe> retrieving :lwjgl.jar 18%
#1654 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> particular error is with avira
#1655 [12:48] * GreyVulpine points to ?? virus/avira
#1655 [12:48] <Wug> avg did the exact same thing the other day
#1656 [12:48] <Wug> skejoe: do you have avira antivir
#1657 [12:48] <skejoe> i had that damn problem from yesterday
#1658 [12:48] <skejoe> when i failed to install a mod
#1659 [12:49] <skejoe> i deleted my bin file to restart over
#1660 [12:49] * JasonBeee steals Wug's tuba
#1660 [12:49] * JasonBeee jams.
#1660 [12:49] <skejoe> but minecraft wasnt starting
#1661 [12:49] * Wug baps JasonBeee and takes it back
#1661 [12:49] * JasonBeee bleeds
#1661 [12:49] <skejoe> doing this error
#1662 [12:49] <Wug> skejoe: do you have avira antivir
#1663 [12:49] * JasonBeee now knows his place
#1663 [12:49] <skejoe> 2 secs
#1664 [12:49] <skejoe> yes
#1665 [12:50] <Wug> ?? virus/avira
#1666 [12:50] <VoxelHead> virus/avira: To stop Avira from reporting Mincraft as a false-positive, please do the following:
#1667 [12:50] <VoxelHead> virus/avira: Open Avira, open the Extras menu, and click Configuration. Then, set the switch to 'Expert' and open the 'Internet Protection' sub-menu, and open 'Web Protection', and then 'Scan'. Click 'Exceptions', and at 'URLs Skipped by Web Protection', enter 'http://s3.amazonaws.com/*', and click Add, then Apply.
#1668 [12:50] <skejoe> avira
#1669 [12:50] <Wug> do that ^
#1670 [12:51] <skejoe> oook
#1671 [12:51] <skejoe> im not that expert in coms but i think i can do that
#1672 [12:51] * Wug resumes playing
#1672 [12:52] <skejoe> gtg guys ill be back here in 3 hours
#1673 [12:52] <skejoe> 4 hours*
#1674 [12:52] <TheNoodle> :/
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#1679 [13:01] <kyocon> hi
#1680 [13:02] <kyocon> i need help with the minecraft store
#1681 [13:02] <wilma> My minecraft runs in game for about 20-30 seconds then shuts it self
#1682 [13:02] <wilma> My minecraft runs in game for about 20-30 seconds then shuts it self
#1683 [13:02] <wilma> is theer anybody
#1684 [13:03] <kyocon> i made two purchases for a minecraft gift code and only got one gift code and it only shows one gift code on my profile
#1685 [13:04] <Wug> wilma: you probably don't have enough ram
#1686 [13:04] <wilma> how can i get more?
#1687 [13:04] <wilma> cus the game used to run really well but my computer broke and its a bit dogdy now
#1688 [13:04] <Wug> kyocon: check the confirmation email and the transaction receipt. you might have only bought one by mistake
#1689 [13:04] <wilma> or it could be the new 1.0.0
#1690 [13:05] <Wug> wilma: how does it crash?
#1691 [13:05] <Wug> any error messages
#1692 [13:05] <kyocon> <joking> go to your nearest mountain and bring home the biggest horned beast you see. usually its a ram </joking>
#1693 [13:05] <kyocon> only got one confirm email
#1694 [13:06] <wilma> it doesnt say anytin it just closes suddenly -Kyocon Lol
#1695 [13:06] <kyocon> my bank account is showing the amount being taken out twice
#1696 [13:08] <wilma> um...
#1697 [13:09] <kyocon> ???
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#1700 [13:09] <wilma> t doesnt say anytin it just closes suddenly
#1701 [13:10] <wilma> http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=troll+face&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1920&bih=922&tbm=isch&tbnid=RgezjptQadkGAM:&imgrefurl=http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/trollface-coolface-problem&docid=Bmb-7Uvd7Yxf2M&imgurl=http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/096/044/trollface.jpg%253F1296494117&w=640&h=640&ei=a-XLTtjxLMrd8gPstSg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=196&v
#1702 [13:10] <kyocon> have previous versions been fine?
#1703 [13:10] <wilma> yeah
#1704 [13:10] <kyocon> there is a known issue they know about that they cant fix untill the get back to sweden
#1705 [13:11] <kyocon> not sure if that is it
#1706 [13:11] <wilma> mabye
#1707 [13:11] <wilma> but im thinking it my computer now cus it was fine but i got virused and its a bit slow now
#1708 [13:11] <wilma> so..
#1709 [13:11] <wilma> hey Wug
#1710 [13:12] <kyocon> ok that would be more likely
#1711 [13:12] <wilma> Anyhow ill just get on with my life... Probably for the best.
#1712 [13:12] <wilma> Bye
#1713 [13:12] <wilma> Bye
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#1715 [13:13] <kyocon> wug you there?
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#1718 [13:21] <technikfischer> hello
#1719 [13:22] <craftermine> hi can some1 fix hs_err_pid?
#1720 [13:22] <Wug> Sorry, I was making a phone call
#1721 [13:22] <Wug> craftermine: does it happen before or after you login
#1722 [13:23] <technikfischer> how can i solve the problem: my server reponded with an invalid server key
#1723 [13:23] <craftermine> http://mibpaste.com/5kzRu8
#1724 [13:23] <craftermine> after
#1725 [13:23] <Wug> technikfischer: close the client and open it again
#1726 [13:23] <craftermine> while playing
#1727 [13:23] <Wahrheit> technikfischer: Check this article for more info :) http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/mkjqs/bukkit_has_fixed_the_invalid_server_key_problem/
#1728 [13:24] <Wug> craftermine: its something that happens after you've been playing for a while?
#1729 [13:24] <Wug> how long?
#1730 [13:24] <craftermine> yes
#1731 [13:24] <craftermine> a minute or 10
#1732 [13:24] <technikfischer> oh it does work
#1733 [13:24] <technikfischer> cu
#1734 [13:24] <Wug> craftermine: do you have a 64 bit computer
#1735 [13:25] <craftermine> how can i see that?
#1736 [13:25] <Wug> :dx
#1737 [13:25] <WugBot> dx: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1738 [13:25] <WugBot> dx: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#1740 [13:28] <craftermine> http://pastebin.com/PSUNG1V8
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#1742 [13:29] <Jovet> not 64-bit
#1743 [13:30] <craftermine> ok
#1744 [13:30] <craftermine> any ways to fix?
#1745 [13:31] <Jovet> fix what?
#1746 [13:32] <craftermine> the hs_err_pid issue
#1747 [13:32] <Jovet> Did you read about he OpenGL thing above at all?
#1748 [13:32] <Jovet> he=the
#1749 [13:33] <craftermine> must i download a newer version of openGL?
#1750 [13:33] <Wug> I'm not sure its relevant
#1751 [13:33] <craftermine> the full version is already released
#1752 [13:33] <craftermine> but still happening
#1753 [13:33] <Wug> I think aubot just looks for "exception_access_violation"
#1754 [13:33] <Jovet> oh
#1755 [13:33] <Wug> and it's not an immediate thing, its after a while
#1756 [13:33] <Jovet> I hadn't noticed nobody invoked it. lol
#1757 [13:34] <Wug> minecraft doesnt run well on 32 bit systems
#1758 [13:34] <craftermine> ok
#1759 [13:34] <craftermine> 1.7.3 runs without the errors but i wana play 1.0
#1760 [13:34] <Wug> we had hoped that it would be better optimized for this version, but it still has issues
#1761 [13:35] <Wug> mollstam: are you there?
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#1763 [13:35] <craftermine> what's the differens about 1.7.3 and 1.0?
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#1765 [13:35] <Jovet> craftermine: see http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#1766 [13:36] <Wug> craftermine: has to do with graphics stuff
#1767 [13:36] <Wug> have you tried turning all of the settings down
#1768 [13:36] <Peters> Hi! Is there any way to download the 1.7.3 or 1.8.1 versions of minecraft? There are some mods that dont work if i "downgrade" my 1.0 version. Thankful for help.
#1769 [13:37] <Wug> no there is not
#1770 [13:37] <craftermine> get it on google
#1771 [13:37] <Wug> just wait, the mods will update
#1772 [13:37] <Wug> just give it a day or two
#1773 [13:37] <craftermine> just search: minecraft 1.7.3 client
#1774 [13:37] <Wug> craftermine: its illegal. don't give that advice
#1775 [13:37] * GreyVulpine kicks craftermine
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#1777 [13:38] <Peters> i tried the unpatcher, but it doesnt work well for the 1.0 version yet. Well, i'll just wait then
#1778 [13:38] <craftermine> ok
#1779 [13:38] <Jovet> the only legit way is if you backed-up the older files on your own system.
#1780 [13:38] <craftermine> what kind of mods do u want to use?
#1781 [13:39] <TheNoodle> Or by using MCNostalgia etc.
#1782 [13:39] <Wug> Jovet: theres also ^
#1783 [13:39] <craftermine> is MCNostalgia legit?
#1784 [13:39] * TheNoodle nods
#1784 [13:40] <TheNoodle> It probably hasn't updated for 1.0.0 yet.
#1785 [13:40] <Peters> i want to try the buildcraft mod. i think it's for 1.8.1
#1786 [13:40] <craftermine> technik modpack is for 1.8
#1787 [13:41] <Wug> we don't help with modding anyway, all we'll do is help you remove them when you screw up :P
#1788 [13:41] <Peters> ok. i had some trouble with a lot of bug when i tried a downpatched 1.0
#1789 [13:41] <Jovet> as for McNostaliga... sounds like more trouble than it's worth? hah
#1790 [13:42] <craftermine> i have 1.7 with 1.0 textures
#1791 [13:42] <craftermine> pretty weird
#1792 [13:42] <craftermine> but not giving errors
#1793 [13:43] <Jammy> Wug, do most major mods have a channel on this network anyway?
#1794 [13:43] <Wug> some do
#1795 [13:43] <Peters> well the big bugg was the mining machines wont work. it may be related to the mod itself
#1796 [13:43] <Jammy> mining machines?
#1797 [13:43] <Wug> generally the download thread for the mod on the minecraft forum has all the install info you'll need
#1798 [13:44] <Peters> mining wells, i think thats what they called them
#1799 [13:44] * TheNoodle nods
#1799 [13:44] <Jammy> Take it this is something a mod creates?
#1800 [13:44] <TheNoodle> Yep.
#1801 [13:44] <craftermine> will there be an updaye that fix the hs_err_pid issue in the next version of minecraft??
#1802 [13:44] <Jammy> Only "mod" i want is something that tells me my coords persistantly :P
#1803 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> F3
#1804 [13:45] <Jammy> persistantly without covering my screen in stuff :P
#1805 [13:45] <Jammy> There a tutorial on making mods anywhere btw?
#1806 [13:46] <Jammy> I "may" be able to hack and slash my way to making it myself :P
#1807 [13:46] <Jammy> Plus even if I fail would be an interesting experience
#1808 [13:47] <TheNoodle> Jammy there are mods that do that :P
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#1811 [13:47] <Jovet> I want a mod that will make my dinner ;)
#1812 [13:48] <Jammy> TheNoodle, it would still be interesting to try do it myself :)
#1813 [13:48] <craftermine> what means allocated memory??
#1814 [13:48] <craftermine> it's only 200mb
#1815 [13:48] <mib_kkl70v> hey guys i have a problem i cant join the minecraft network for a few weeks why? i cant login 0.o
#1816 [13:48] <Jammy> Depends how hard it is... I am moderately capable of coding in Java :]
#1817 [13:48] <TheNoodle> Can you log in at http://minecraft.net ?
#1818 [13:49] <craftermine> u got can't connect to server?
#1819 [13:49] <craftermine> or login failed play offline?
#1820 [13:49] <mib_kkl70v> yeah i can there i find this channel but i cant login in the game i only can play offline 0.o
#1821 [13:49] <mib_kkl70v> yes thats it
#1822 [13:49] <craftermine> wrong password?
#1823 [13:50] <mib_kkl70v> it is saved
#1824 [13:50] <craftermine> is u firewall blocking it maybe
#1825 [13:50] <Jovet> retype your username and password to be sure they're right.
#1826 [13:51] <mib_kkl70v> i dont no mom
#1827 [13:51] <mib_kkl70v> okay i do
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#1829 [13:51] <craftermine> any1 haves the hs_err_pid issue to WHEN playing?
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#1831 [13:52] <kermi> Hey, can someone in here help with account problems?
#1832 [13:52] <craftermine> what's the problem?
#1833 [13:53] <Jovet> Not really, kermi.
#1834 [13:53] <Jovet> We can offer suggestions based on what is happening, though.
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#1836 [13:53] <kermi> Alright thanks - I gifted a friend minecraft a few months back
#1837 [13:53] <kermi> now he's forgotten the email AND password
#1838 [13:54] <kermi> its also likely the email assigned to the account was a throwaway email <_>
#1839 [13:54] <Jovet> craftermine: don't confuse problems with symptoms. The hs_err_pid are error reports, not a cause of errors.
#1840 [13:54] <Wug> craftermine: have you tried updating your graphics drivers
#1841 [13:54] <Jovet> kermi: that sounds a bit grim.
#1842 [13:54] <Guest53430> the free vesion of minecraft is not working
#1843 [13:54] <Jovet> Guest53430: Got a Mac?
#1844 [13:54] <Wug> kermi: is the password saved anywhere
#1845 [13:55] <Guest53430> nope PC
#1846 [13:55] <Jovet> Guest53430: Got the latest Java (1.6.29) installed?
#1847 [13:55] <Guest53430> Yep.
#1848 [13:55] <craftermine> updating with what?
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#1850 [13:56] <kermi> Wug - sadly it isn't
#1851 [13:56] <Attritions> Hello
#1852 [13:56] <Jovet> Guest53430: so this page: http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre shows 6 29?
#1853 [13:56] <kermi> Is there a e-mail adress I can write to because of account problems? The support page isn't too helpful in this special case
#1854 [13:57] <craftermine> when the hs_err_pid error closes my minecraft client, when i start it again and log in to my world there are parts not saved.
#1855 [13:57] <Guest53430> it does
#1856 [13:58] <Jovet> Guest53430: So when you go to minecraft.net and try to play Classic, what happens?
#1857 [13:58] <craftermine> like b uilding a home and the error comes up, loggin in again and the home is away
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#1859 [13:58] <`Kelby> how do i findout what seed my world is?
#1860 [13:59] <Wug> kermi: theyre not going to reset it if you cant remember anything about it
#1861 [13:59] <Guest53430> it trys to load then it says a fatal error occured and is unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack
#1862 [14:00] <kermi> The only things I have is the fact the gift is listed on my account and his username
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#1864 [14:02] <Jovet> `Kelby: When in the game, press F3.
#1865 [14:02] <Wug> Guest53430: have you tried disabling your antivirus programs
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#1867 [14:02] <craftermine> how do i disable avg 9.0?
#1868 [14:02] <Guest53430> no.
#1869 [14:03] <mib_yj3cqi> how do you fly around the level to check it out and find a good spot to start when your seed world first loads?
#1870 [14:03] <Jovet> mib_kkl70v: Single-Player or Multi-Player?
#1871 [14:03] <mib_yj3cqi> single
#1872 [14:03] <Wug> craftermine: I have no idea, there is probably a "turn off for 15 minutes" button somewhere
#1873 [14:03] <TheNoodle> start a creative map mib_yj3cqi.
#1874 [14:04] <craftermine> ok
#1875 [14:04] <Jovet> craftermine: right-click the AVG icon in the "system tray" and look for a "Disable" command, or go into the options and look for one.
#1876 [14:04] <mib_kkl70v> every is the same you cant connect to minecraft.net Play offline or Try again my log in name and passwort are exactly correct
#1877 [14:05] <mib_yj3cqi> ??
#1878 [14:05] <Jovet> mib_kkl70v: errrr I don't quite follow that, care to rephrase?
#1879 [14:06] <craftermine> mib_kkl70v: try playing in browser
#1880 [14:06] <Jovet> mib_yj3cqi: there's no "legit" way to change game modes in Single-Player.
#1881 [14:07] <Jovet> mib_yj3cqi: do what we've always done... setup a temp base near the spawn area and explore to find a place you want to develop.
#1882 [14:07] <Wug> mib_kkl70v: wait a little while, there have been issues with logging in lately
#1883 [14:07] <Guest53430> it still doesnt work
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#1885 [14:07] <mib_kkl70v> i wait for months -.-
#1886 [14:08] <mib_kkl70v> 5 months
#1887 [14:08] <Jovet> mib_kkl70v: if you haven't been able to log-in for months then I think your username or password are wrong.
#1888 [14:08] <craftermine> i only can play the game on xbox now
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#1890 [14:09] <mib_kkl70v> lol no my username is right i have changed it
#1891 [14:09] <Jovet> Guest53430: Try another web browser
#1892 [14:09] <mib_kkl70v> another webserver ?
#1893 [14:09] <Attritions> Hello.. i downloaded this Minecraft_Server.exe for Windows -> http://www.minecraft.net/download .... How to add plugins to this server ? .. Can you help me ? ... Thanks...
#1894 [14:09] <Jovet> mib_kkl70v: if you're sure you have your username right then try resetting your password and getting a new one.
#1895 [14:09] <mib_kkl70v> how can i chnged it
#1896 [14:09] <Jovet> Attritions: Go join #bukkit and ask them.
#1897 [14:10] <mib_yj3cqi> I've done that I heard someone(video) talk about starting in new world then flying to a good spot to set up a base. is it a legit way like 3rd person button or something
#1898 [14:10] <TheNoodle> Attritions, it is not currently possible to add plugins to that server version, you're looking for Craftbukkit, http://bukkit.org
#1899 [14:10] <Attritions> Jovet: thanks
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#1901 [14:10] <Guest53430> nope right now im in internet explorer and it didnt work then i tryed it in google chome which didnt work.
#1902 [14:10] <mib_kkl70v> i had chnged also my passwort guy ;)
#1903 [14:10] <Attritions> TheNoodle: okay.. thanks
#1904 [14:11] <TheNoodle> :|
#1905 [14:12] * TheNoodle looks through channels
#1905 [14:12] <TheNoodle> ohhhh
#1906 [14:12] * Jovet thinks Scot should look at this channel ;)
#1906 [14:13] <mib_kkl70v> thank u guys im off
#1907 [14:14] <craftermine> does some1 knows what's happening to my video card or something?: when playing minecraft i hear a weird noise out of my pc like trrrrrrrrr only when moving the camera on minecraft but when doing nothing i don't hear that noise
#1908 [14:15] <Jovet> craftermine: sounds like a fan is picking up to cool it off.
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#1910 [14:16] <craftermine> it's not my fan, it's inside my pc my fans are already blowing air.
#1911 [14:16] <Gucio16> Can I know how is it possible that they are people on the server and I cant connect to it
#1912 [14:16] <Gucio16> Cause I get End of stream
#1913 [14:16] <Jovet> craftermine: fans can speed up and slow down on most computers
#1914 [14:17] <Jovet> craftermine: fans that do that are usually good because the noise of the fan isn't worth it if it's not needed, and the faster the fan spins the louder it is.
#1915 [14:17] <mib_yj3cqi> 've done that. I heard someone(video) talk about starting in new world then flying to a good spot to set up a base. is it a legit way like 3rd person button or something?
#1916 [14:17] <craftermine> it doesn't sounds like a fan, the noise is high pitched
#1917 [14:18] <Gucio16> Anyone
#1918 [14:18] <Jovet> mib_yj3cqi: it's really easy to do in Multi-player; in single player, though, it requires a mod or a hack of your level.dat file.
#1919 [14:18] <Jovet> Gucio16: how many times have you tried?
#1920 [14:18] <Gucio16> Loads
#1921 [14:18] <Gucio16> And Im getting annnoyed now
#1922 [14:18] <Gucio16> GameTracker says the server is up
#1923 [14:18] <mib_yj3cqi> tooo complicated for this noob
#1924 [14:18] <Guest53430> nope right now im in internet explorer and it didnt work then i tryed it in google chome which didnt work. so the free verison of minecraft is still not working
#1925 [14:19] <Guest53430> nope right now im in internet explorer and it didnt work then i tryed it in google chome which didnt work.
#1926 [14:19] <mib_yj3cqi> when will minecraft be available on Xbox market place?
#1927 [14:20] <`Kelby> i spawned in a really cool world with all sorts of dfferent biomes and a village nearby and all that stuff.. everything except sheep
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#1929 [14:20] <`Kelby> and only a very very few cows. or chickens.
#1930 [14:20] <`Kelby> lots of pigs... i made a little chicken farm, so i seem to be ok with that... but how do i get more sheep and cows?
#1931 [14:20] <Jovet> `Kelby: each seed is different as far as friendly and hostile mobs... if there are lots of caves or ravines then animals may fall into them.
#1932 [14:20] <`Kelby> i know i can make em have little babies, but how do i trap em and drag em back to where i want them?
#1933 [14:21] <`Kelby> the pigs keep falling in, but i don't think ive seen a single damn seep yet
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#1935 [14:21] <Jovet> mib_yj3cqi: if you want the ultimate "survival" experience then do what I said and setup a temp base while you explore for a permanent one ;)
#1936 [14:21] <SpiffyDrummah> I'm back, and still no response. If you don
#1937 [14:21] <SpiffyDrummah> don't believe I paid for it, I have email proof.*
#1938 [14:21] <Gucio16> Anyone?
#1939 [14:22] <SpiffyDrummah> Stupid enter key... -_-
#1940 [14:22] <Jovet> Guest53430: if you've disabled all your anti-virus and anti-spyware and firewalls and all that jazz and it still doesn't work, I personally don't know what else to tell 'ya.
#1941 [14:22] <Guest53430> thanks.
#1942 [14:22] <Guest53430> thanks.
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#1944 [14:22] <craftermine> now that noise sounds like: ee ee ee ee ee ee ee ee eeeee e ee ee eeeeee eeeeeeeeee...
#1945 [14:23] <Jovet> `Kelby: the only way to make more sheep is to find two and start breeding them with each other.
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#1947 [14:23] <`Kelby> if i make a bunch and release them, will they have babies all on their own?
#1948 [14:23] <Jovet> Gucio16: have you ever been able to connect to that server?
#1949 [14:23] <Jovet> `Kelby: Nope.
#1950 [14:23] <Gucio16> Yea
#1951 [14:23] <Gucio16> This morning
#1952 [14:23] <`Kelby> darn.
#1953 [14:23] <`Kelby> k
#1954 [14:23] <`Kelby> thanks
#1955 [14:23] <Gucio16> I was playing and it was fine
#1956 [14:24] <Jovet> Gucio16: If it were me I'd suggest to the server operator to recycle the server (i.e. stop and and restart it)
#1957 [14:24] <craftermine> well, i think it's overheating... i think i need to buy a new pc to play mc again :(
#1958 [14:24] <Jovet> craftermine: fans can make high-pitched noises
#1959 [14:24] <craftermine> yes but, it's only when playing mc
#1960 [14:24] <Jovet> craftermine: ...especially if they have a bad bearing
#1961 [14:25] <Jovet> SpiffyDrummah: I don't know what problems you were having?
#1962 [14:25] <SpiffyDrummah> My account says I'm not premium after I paid for it in May
#1963 [14:26] <craftermine> exactly when i start walking or doing anything in a world the sound comes up and when i exit to the main menu it stops making that weird noise
#1964 [14:26] <Jovet> SpiffyDrummah: all you can do is go to the support page and wait for them to respond to you
#1965 [14:26] <SpiffyDrummah> Alright.
#1966 [14:26] <Jovet> SpiffyDrummah: you can try buying the game again if you really want, but then you'll be paying for it twice no matter what, so I wouldn't.
#1967 [14:27] <craftermine> it's not in 1.7.3 anyway
#1968 [14:27] <SpiffyDrummah> Psh. I'm practically poor lol.
#1969 [14:27] <Jovet> SpiffyDrummah: I presume you've already been to http://www.minecraft.net/support and answered the questions?
#1970 [14:27] <SpiffyDrummah> Several times.
#1971 [14:28] <Jovet> SpiffyDrummah: Mojang's support deparment is a bit lacking at the moment, but they're working on providing better customer service. I'm confident they'll get around to you eventually.
#1972 [14:28] <mib_0a0amk> when i go to load up my server it says an error occured what shall i do?
#1973 [14:28] <mib_yj3cqi> anyone know when it will be available on xbox?
#1974 [14:29] <Jovet> mib_0a0amk: first rule of technical assistance: provide as much information as possible
#1975 [14:29] <Jovet> mib_yj3cqi: Spring 2012 is my understanding
#1976 [14:29] <mib_yj3cqi> thanks
#1977 [14:29] <SpiffyDrummah> That's good.
#1978 [14:31] <Jovet> SpiffyDrummah: whether it will be a few days or a few weeks, I don't know. The support gridlock is exacerbated by Minecon and all the new people buying the game right now.
#1979 [14:31] <SpiffyDrummah> And now all the old people that lost the game.
#1980 [14:31] <Jovet> eh?
#1981 [14:32] <SpiffyDrummah> Other people are having the same problem, to my understanding at least.
#1982 [14:33] <Jovet> SpiffyDrummah: yes. feel free to also go to http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang to voice your opinion and report your experiences.
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#1984 [14:36] <SpiffyDrummah> Thank you for the site, just posted the problem.
#1985 [14:36] <Jovet> SpiffyDrummah: Mojang does monitor that site
#1986 [14:36] <SpiffyDrummah> I hope they're on it now.
#1987 [14:36] <Jovet> SpiffyDrummah: It probably won't help your specific case, but the more people complain the faster the'll get their acts together ;)
#1988 [14:37] <SpiffyDrummah> I hope they care about their customers more than the money.
#1989 [14:37] <Jovet> now if only they'd pay me to say how confident I am in them getting things all worked out.. hah
#1990 [14:38] <Jovet> SpiffyDrummah: I'd like to believe that
#1991 [14:38] <SpiffyDrummah> You should get paid haha.
#1992 [14:38] <Jovet> lol nah I'm pretty new here
#1993 [14:39] <Wug> someone gave me battlefield 3 here the other day o.o
#1994 [14:39] <SpiffyDrummah> You help a lot of people though.
#1995 [14:39] * Jovet thinks Mojang shoudl consider hiring people that run this channel, though.
#1995 [14:40] <Wug> it could certainly have benefits
#1996 [14:40] <Wug> anyway bbl
#1997 [14:41] <Jovet> but what do I know? I'm an old fuddy duddy
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#2000 [14:46] <mr_sticky> 27 achievements 174 recipes Loading: net.java.games.input.DirectAndRawInputEnvironmentPlugin Starting up SoundSystem... Initializing LWJGL OpenAL (The LWJGL binding of OpenAL. For more information, see http://www.lwjgl.org) OpenAL initialized. A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime
#2001 [14:46] <mr_sticky> any1 knows about this?
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#2003 [14:47] <Jovet> mr_sticky: you might try copy/pasting the entire error report to http://pastebin.com
#2004 [14:47] <aljorub> if i defeat the ender dragin do i loose ny world
#2005 [14:47] <aljorub> my
#2006 [14:47] <TheNoodle> I wouldn't say so.
#2007 [14:48] <aljorub> what does that mean
#2008 [14:48] <aljorub> have you doen it
#2009 [14:49] <mr_sticky> http://pastebin.com/sXzFdKgV
#2010 [14:50] <Jovet> aljorub: you do not. You watch the credits, and get a portal back to the main world and can carry on as usual, as if nothing had happened.
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#2012 [14:50] <Jovet> aljorub: ...though you'll have a ton of experience points.
#2013 [14:51] <Jovet> mr_sticky: try disabling your Anti-virus software and seeing if it is any different
#2014 [14:52] <Jovet> aljorub: The only time you can "loose your world" is if you choose to play on Hardcore mode, and you die.
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#2016 [14:56] <_2k10> can someone help me with a bug im having?
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#2018 [14:56] <Jammy> Are items meant to lose enchant if you die with them? :S
#2019 [14:57] <g> <3
#2020 [14:57] <_2k10> guys when i go on an smp server I cant build or delete blocks even on my own server
#2021 [14:57] <Jovet> hi _2k10
#2022 [14:57] <_2k10> erm
#2023 [14:57] <_2k10> hi
#2024 [14:58] <Jovet> _2k10: are you an Op on your own server? Does it happen everywhere? Or only some blocks?
#2025 [14:58] <Jovet> Jammy: Good questions, I don't know.
#2026 [14:58] <_2k10> when i go on my own server which I am op on
#2027 [14:58] <_2k10> i have about 1 or 2 minutes before I cant pick up, place or delete blocks
#2028 [14:58] <_2k10> and yes it happends everywhere
#2029 [14:59] <Jovet> Jammy: try reading this page for that information: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Enchantment
#2030 [14:59] <Jovet> _2k10: Any server mods? Any client mods loaded?
#2031 [15:00] <_2k10> no server mods
#2032 [15:00] <_2k10> but
#2033 [15:00] <_2k10> i have toomanyitems
#2034 [15:00] <Jovet> _2k10: I'd suggest you ditch TMI, then
#2035 [15:00] <_2k10> annoyingly singleplayer works
#2036 [15:00] <_2k10> ok then
#2037 [15:00] <Jovet> (and see if the problem goes away)
#2038 [15:03] <Jammy> Jovet: that doesn't say what happens although does hint at it being meant to stay if dropped... just i lost my enchants a minute ago
#2039 [15:03] <Jammy> i was in creative mode and an op did a kill command on me :P
#2040 [15:05] <Jovet> Jammy: you might then check the Known Bugs page
#2041 [15:05] <Jovet> Jammy: I haven't read it lately
#2042 [15:07] <_2k10> works now ty
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#2047 [15:10] <Jovet> _2k10: sounds good
#2048 [15:10] <_2k10> what does?
#2049 [15:10] <Jovet> that it works for you now
#2050 [15:10] <_2k10> ok...
#2051 [15:11] <Jovet> sounds like a bug in TMI, so I guess hopefully they fix that soon
#2052 [15:13] <_2k10> it might not be
#2053 [15:13] <_2k10> when i went to delete minecraft.jar
#2054 [15:13] <_2k10> i saw minecraft1.8.1.jar was still there as well
#2055 [15:13] <_2k10> so im not sure which it was
#2056 [15:15] <Jovet> _2k10: unless you explicitly run a file called "minecraft1.8.1.jar" it will just sit there and won't hurt anything.
#2057 [15:15] <_2k10> ok
#2058 [15:15] <Jovet> _2k10: the launcher only runs "minecraft.jar"
#2059 [15:16] <_2k10> ok
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#2070 [15:27] <WarTheCar> I need help
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#2072 [15:28] <Jovet> okay
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#2076 [15:29] <_2k10> Jovet - http://imgur.com/ubUGa
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#2079 [15:29] <xarcus> Is anyone else having random blocks dark in Minecraft since the update?
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#2081 [15:30] <Chaos_Theorist> I've been having those since Alpha
#2082 [15:30] <xarcus> Since the prereleases and 1.0 my world get these weird dark blocks...
#2083 [15:31] <xarcus> It just looks weird and the only way to solve it is staying on 1.8
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#2085 [15:31] <Chaos_Theorist> Just chuck a torch down and remove it
#2086 [15:31] <mib_pxtux0> .
#2087 [15:32] <xarcus> Half the world has this and i already tried
#2088 [15:32] <Jovet> xarcus: it's normal, it's a bug.. like Chaos said, "force a lighting update" and it will be fine.
#2089 [15:32] <xarcus> Even changing texture doesnt solve it
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#2091 [15:32] <Jovet> xarcus: half the world? screen shot?
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#2093 [15:32] <xarcus> Forcing updade normally doesnt work
#2094 [15:33] <xarcus> Im sure its a lighting issue
#2095 [15:33] <KyrtolPL> How to write to minecrafT?
#2096 [15:33] <Chaos_Theorist> xarcus, give us a screenshot
#2097 [15:33] <Jovet> _2k10: yes that's a known problem. Keep trying it and it will work. It should only fail 1/2 the time statistically.
#2098 [15:33] <_2k10> ok
#2099 [15:33] <KyrtolPL> I need help.What's e-mail to minecrafT?
#2100 [15:34] <Jovet> xarcus: I dind't mean a "Force Update" of minecraft.... I meant by placing a torch like Chaos_Theorist suggested you force minecraft to update the lighting in the region.
#2101 [15:34] <Jovet> KyrtolPL: what's the problem you're having?
#2102 [15:34] <KyrtolPL> Why?
#2103 [15:34] <KyrtolPL> You must know?
#2104 [15:34] <KyrtolPL> I just want help
#2105 [15:34] <Chaos_Theorist> He wants to email Minecraft but knows not the email address.
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#2107 [15:34] <Jovet> KyrtolPL: this is #minecrafthelp. Maybe we can help. If we can't, we'll tell you what you should try next.
#2108 [15:35] <KyrtolPL> I just want e-mail to miecraft
#2109 [15:35] <Jovet> KyrtolPL: If you really think you need to try to contact Mojang directly, use the Support page.
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#2111 [15:35] <liz> _2k10 haxel here, what's your problem?
#2112 [15:35] <xarcus> Ok ill try the torch idea
#2113 [15:36] <_2k10> sorted hax :P
#2114 [15:36] <liz> allright :D
#2115 [15:36] <KyrtolPL> Yea cool
#2116 [15:36] <KyrtolPL> but I dont know
#2117 [15:36] <KyrtolPL> how
#2118 [15:36] <liz> Oh hey VoxelHead
#2119 [15:36] <Jovet> KyrtolPL: why do you want to send email to Mojang?
#2120 [15:36] <KyrtolPL> I just have a problem
#2121 [15:36] <KyrtolPL> Big problem
#2122 [15:37] <KyrtolPL> Why
#2123 [15:37] <KyrtolPL> you someone
#2124 [15:37] <Boreeas> KyrtolPL: Most of the time, we can help. Just ask
#2125 [15:37] <KyrtolPL> just cant help
#2126 [15:37] <KyrtolPL> No you cant
#2127 [15:37] <Boreeas> KyrtolPL: We will tell you if we can't
#2128 [15:37] <KyrtolPL> belive me
#2129 [15:37] <Jovet> KyrtolPL: go away
#2130 [15:37] <KyrtolPL> ?
#2131 [15:37] <KyrtolPL> Why?
#2132 [15:37] <KyrtolPL> LOl
#2133 [15:37] <Jovet> KyrtolPL: because we can't help you
#2134 [15:37] <Boreeas> KyrtolPL: We won't give the e-mail to mojang without knowing what for
#2135 [15:37] <KyrtolPL> Gift code ok?
#2136 [15:37] <KyrtolPL> Now you happy?
#2137 [15:38] <Boreeas> Go to minecraft.net/suuport
#2138 [15:38] <KyrtolPL> ..
#2139 [15:38] <Boreeas> Payment
#2140 [15:38] <Boreeas> -> Giftcodes
#2141 [15:38] <KyrtolPL> I dont buy this
#2142 [15:38] <KyrtolPL> i win this
#2143 [15:38] <KyrtolPL> in competition
#2144 [15:38] <Boreeas> err, http://minecraft.net/support
#2145 [15:38] <KyrtolPL> and?
#2146 [15:38] <Jovet> KyrtolPL: If you're having trouble redeeming a gift code, follow Boreeas's directions.
#2147 [15:39] <KyrtolPL> Ok
#2148 [15:39] <KyrtolPL> And what next?
#2149 [15:39] <KyrtolPL> support
#2150 [15:39] <KyrtolPL> ?
#2151 [15:39] <Jovet> KyrtolPL: Choose "payment" and then answer the questions it gives you
#2152 [15:39] <KyrtolPL> I dont buy this!!
#2153 [15:39] <KyrtolPL> I win this in competition
#2154 [15:40] <Boreeas> Your gift code problem is? Didn'T work, or you didn't receive it?
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#2156 [15:40] <Jovet> KyrtolPL: We know. We're telling you what to do. Stop whining and listen.
#2157 [15:40] <KyrtolPL> Didnt work
#2158 [15:40] <KyrtolPL> Ok
#2159 [15:40] <Boreeas> See, there is a button for that
#2160 [15:41] <KyrtolPL> Wait suppoort and what next?
#2161 [15:41] * Jovet bangs head on desk.
#2161 [15:41] <KyrtolPL> payment?
#2162 [15:41] <Jovet> KyrtolPL: yes
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#2164 [15:42] <KyrtolPL> and?
#2165 [15:42] <KyrtolPL> What next dude?
#2166 [15:42] <xarcus> I´m still having the dark block problem, heres an image: http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2964/fgdfgdfn.png
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#2168 [15:42] <xarcus> http ://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2964/fgdfgdfn.png
#2169 [15:42] <Boreeas> KyrtolPL: There should be a contact form
#2170 [15:42] <KyrtolPL> where in payment?
#2171 [15:42] <KyrtolPL> -.-
#2172 [15:42] <xarcus> And i dont know what forcing a lighting update is
#2173 [15:43] <xarcus> Someone help me :/
#2174 [15:43] <Jovet> xarcus: it's placing a torch or other light source near the dark area to make it "wake up" and render it not dark.
#2175 [15:43] <liz> xarcus: That's a swamp biome glitch
#2176 [15:43] <Jovet> LOL
#2177 [15:43] <liz> Happens to me all the time
#2178 [15:43] <Jovet> xarcus: that's supposed to be that way.
#2179 [15:43] <liz> You see, the water is green
#2180 [15:43] <liz> Not dark
#2181 [15:43] <liz> Just green
#2182 [15:43] <xarcus> no its not, the water, grass and trees are like this
#2183 [15:43] <xarcus> its ugly
#2184 [15:43] <Jovet> (well it's dark AND green)
#2185 [15:43] <Boreeas> KyrtolPL: Payment -> Gift Code -> My Giftcode wasn'T accepted
#2186 [15:43] <xarcus> lol
#2187 [15:44] <Jovet> xarcus: yes, it's suposed to be like that.
#2188 [15:44] <Jovet> xarcus: Swamp biomes were made "swampier"
#2189 [15:44] <KyrtolPL> Yea
#2190 [15:44] <KyrtolPL> but
#2191 [15:44] <KyrtolPL> I dont
#2192 [15:44] <Jovet> xarcus: The transition is ugly, we agree.
#2193 [15:44] <liz> God damnit, Voxel
#2194 [15:44] <Boreeas> KyrtolPL: Enter is not punctuation
#2195 [15:44] <liz> I can speak however I god damn want
#2196 [15:44] <liz> ololololo
#2197 [15:44] <Boreeas> liz:Nope ;)
#2198 [15:44] <liz> On a more serious note
#2199 [15:44] <xarcus> are they like gonna fix this? its horrible
#2200 [15:44] <liz> I'm pretty god damn sure that's supposed to look that way
#2201 [15:45] <liz> And uh
#2202 [15:45] <xarcus> i made a house where there wasnt a swamp now theres a swamp here
#2203 [15:45] <liz> They SHOULD fix it
#2204 [15:45] <liz> Swamp spreads
#2205 [15:45] <liz> Just like veins
#2206 [15:45] <KyrtolPL> I dont register credit card
#2207 [15:45] <KyrtolPL> I win
#2208 [15:45] <xarcus> but its not spreading
#2209 [15:45] <KyrtolPL> this code..
#2210 [15:45] <liz> Well then I have no idea \o/
#2211 [15:45] <Jovet> KyrtolPL: if you don't know the CC/Paypal name then enter the name of the party that donated you the Gift.
#2212 [15:45] <xarcus> Its just still like that
#2213 [15:46] <xarcus> and wtf how does half of the world become a swamp instantly and water too?
#2214 [15:46] <Jovet> xarcus: that screen shot is perfectly normal. It's supposed to look like that.
#2215 [15:46] <xarcus> and doesnt spread
#2216 [15:46] <xarcus> omg its hoooorrible
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#2218 [15:46] <Jovet> xarcus: many agree that the transition around the swamp is a bit harsh, but that will likely be addrsesed in a future update.
#2219 [15:47] <Chaos_Theorist> Or mod
#2220 [15:47] <Jovet> xarcus: feel free to go to http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang and mention your opinions and/or suggestions about Swamp biomes.
#2221 [15:48] <xarcus> Ima go there and say swamps suck
#2222 [15:48] <xarcus> oh and i searched the glich and it really exists! thanks guys
#2223 [15:48] <Jovet> xarcus: Mojang does monitor that site, so they'll likely read your comments eventually.
#2224 [15:48] <Jovet> (it's not a glitch or a bug, it's by design)
#2225 [15:49] <xarcus> their design sucks then
#2226 [15:49] <Jovet> awww I wanted to tell KyrtolPL also that he should contact the party that he won the thing from
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#2228 [15:52] <|Kiikun|> swamp was designed to be darker in al colors.
#2229 [15:52] <cryopyre> My computer is crashing after playing minecraft. The screen will go black and I have to reboot the whole computer. This has happened on multiple occasions. Any ideas?
#2230 [15:53] <Jovet> cryopyre: tell us about your computer
#2231 [15:53] <|Kiikun|> cryopyre: that sounds like a problem with the computer itself and not minecraft.... try updatign java and video drivers incase its one of those
#2232 [15:53] <cryopyre> I have done both things you've suggested Kiikun
#2233 [15:53] <cryopyre> As for my computer, it is Windows 7 64 bit
#2234 [15:54] <Jovet> cryopyre: this happens once you close Minecraft, or in the middle of playing it?
#2235 [15:54] <cryopyre> In the middle of playing it. THere is no apparent relation to using an object etc.
#2236 [15:54] <cryopyre> Sometimes it even happens while minecraft is open but I am inactive (surfing the internet with my inventory open, etc.)
#2237 [15:55] <|Kiikun|> cryopyre: there any hs_err_pid files on your desktop?
#2238 [15:55] <cryopyre> No
#2239 [15:56] <cryopyre> I looked for error folders to provide, so I don't think it's Minecraft itself, so much as something between my computer and Minecraft
#2240 [15:56] <thesage> so i just enchanted my first few items
#2241 [15:56] <Jovet> cryopyre: is your computer overheating?
#2242 [15:56] <Jovet> cryopyre: or your video card
#2243 [15:56] <|Kiikun|> cryopyre: i have a feeling its simethign thats interacting with java or minecraft unintentionally...
#2244 [15:56] <|Kiikun|> actually.. if its a laptop overheating woudl do it
#2245 [15:56] <Jovet> Kiikum, doesn't have to be a laptop.
#2246 [15:57] <thesage> @ kiikun - its ALWAYS java, i swear
#2247 [15:57] <cryopyre> Is there a way I can determine which problem it is?
#2248 [15:57] <thesage> does your pc have a temp gauge on it?
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#2250 [15:58] <cryopyre> I'm not sure where i'd find it
#2251 [15:58] <thesage> on the case
#2252 [15:58] <Jovet> cryopyre: Overheating would be my first suspicion. There are programs you can use to monitor what your computer can report about temperatures, such as SpeedFan.
#2253 [15:58] <thesage> ^
#2254 [15:59] <Jovet> cryopyre: depends on your specific computer though, not all manufacturers allow temp information to be reported to applications.
#2255 [15:59] <thesage> since its a laptop, id say it probably doesnt have a temp gauge
#2256 [15:59] <thesage> on desktops, its common to have cpu temp and a HDD temp gauge
#2257 [16:00] <Jovet> When did he say it's a laptop?
#2258 [16:00] <thesage> kiikun said it was a laptop
#2259 [16:00] <thesage> *if it is a laptop
#2260 [16:00] <Jovet> no he said IF it's a laptop
#2261 [16:00] <thesage> cryo is it a laptop or a desktop
#2262 [16:01] <|Kiikun|> indeed
#2263 [16:01] <thesage> lol
#2264 [16:01] <Jovet> it doesn't matter.
#2265 [16:01] <Jovet> Don't rely on temp guages on a case.
#2266 [16:01] <thesage> im just curious
#2267 [16:01] * |Kiikun| doesnt rely on the one on the case except as a general reading
#2267 [16:02] <Jovet> Exactly. A case themometer could indicate everything is okay but your video card could still be overheating.
#2268 [16:02] <cryopyre> Sorry, I'm downloading speedfan, this is a laptop
#2269 [16:02] <cryopyre> HP Pavilion DV7
#2270 [16:02] <thesage> ah ha
#2271 [16:02] * |Kiikun| chokes
#2271 [16:02] <thesage> if its a laptop
#2272 [16:02] <thesage> wait
#2273 [16:02] <thesage> is it an fps issue?
#2274 [16:02] <cryopyre> No, no
#2275 [16:02] <cryopyre> Random computer crashes when running Minecraft
#2276 [16:03] <thesage> probably java.
#2277 [16:03] <thesage> java is not the keenest language
#2278 [16:03] <|Kiikun|> 你他媽的。天下所有的人。都該死。~_~
#2279 [16:03] <Jovet> I am doubtful that Java would be taking down the whole machine.
#2280 [16:03] <r0w> How to find a snow biome ? It's impossible, I thought it was fixed in 1.0 !
#2281 [16:03] <thesage> it conflits with lots and lots of programs
#2282 [16:03] <thesage> *conflicts
#2283 [16:03] <Jovet> I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's not as likely as something like overheating.
#2284 [16:03] <cryopyre> 你中国人吗？
#2285 [16:03] <|Kiikun|> r0w: theres snow biomes now. they are hard ro find though.
#2286 [16:04] <Jovet> r0w: if you're desperate you can use a mapping program to try to find one.
#2287 [16:04] <r0w> you found one in 1.0 generated map ?
#2288 [16:04] <cryopyre> How do I find a fix a Java conflict?
#2289 [16:04] <Jovet> r0w: I spawned in one. lol
#2290 [16:04] <thesage> r0w: build a boat and keep sailing until you find ice
#2291 [16:04] <|Kiikun|> cryopyre: no. thats a line from Firefly
#2292 [16:04] <thesage> lol
#2293 [16:04] <cryopyre> Oh
#2294 [16:04] <r0w> I walked for like 1h30
#2295 [16:04] <thesage> thats what i do
#2296 [16:05] <thesage> youre less likely to die when youre sailing
#2297 [16:05] <cryopyre> I do like Firefly, but their Chinese is pretty poor
#2298 [16:05] <|Kiikun|> r0w: on the server i play on, i wandered and found snow at about 1200x300
#2299 [16:05] <thesage> i cant find any survival servers
#2300 [16:06] <r0w> ok ok
#2301 [16:06] <r0w> going to try harder then
#2302 [16:06] <r0w> thx :D
#2303 [16:06] <|Kiikun|> thesage: #smp
#2304 [16:06] <thesage> #smp
#2305 [16:06] <thesage> ok
#2306 [16:06] <thesage> thx
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#2308 [16:06] <Jovet> r0w: I could give you a seed that will spawn you in the middle of a snowy biome if you want
#2309 [16:06] <Minecraft_nick> Ok can anyone help me with a re-occuring problem?
#2310 [16:07] <r0w> na it's ok, im playing in smp
#2311 [16:07] <Jovet> alright
#2312 [16:07] <r0w> thx anyway :]
#2313 [16:07] <Jovet> r0w: there are mappers available that can show you where the biomes are with just a seed
#2314 [16:07] <Jovet> Minecraft_nick: yes
#2315 [16:07] <r0w> oh, like what ?
#2316 [16:07] <Minecraft_nick> You can help me?
#2317 [16:07] <thesage> how does the "seed" fuction work?
#2318 [16:07] <|Kiikun|> cartograph g for an already generated map :P
#2319 [16:07] <thesage> *function
#2320 [16:08] <cryopyre> Hey, guys? How do I fix a potential Java conflict on my computer?
#2321 [16:08] <cryopyre> How do i even figure out what the problem is?
#2322 [16:08] <cryopyre> And why did he use Java?
#2323 [16:08] <|Kiikun|> thesage: the 'seed' is the seed for the random number genererator. worlds are generated based on what the RNG provides.
#2324 [16:08] <r0w> going to test thx |Kiikun|
#2325 [16:08] <Jovet> r0w: Google search for something called Minecraft Stronghold Finder
#2326 [16:08] <Jovet> r0w: it will show a map of the biomes
#2327 [16:08] <Minecraft_nick> My problem is that every so often my minecraft will quit and i will get a java runtime error that is fatal and a giant wall of code
#2328 [16:09] <thesage> java memory, nick?
#2329 [16:09] <|Kiikun|> Minecraft_nick: you happen sto have saived that 'wall of code'?
#2330 [16:09] <Minecraft_nick> her
#2331 [16:09] <Minecraft_nick> here is the code head:*
#2332 [16:09] <Minecraft_nick> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000084c1, pid=6008, tid=3076
#2333 [16:09] <|Kiikun|> :pastebin > Minecraft_nick
#2334 [16:09] <WugBot> Minecraft_nick: (pastebin) Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#2335 [16:10] <Minecraft_nick> http://pastebin.com/He72i1qT
#2336 [16:10] <Minecraft_nick> there is the error i get
#2337 [16:10] <|Kiikun|> lol
#2338 [16:11] <thesage> magicbot responded :D
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#2340 [16:11] * |Kiikun| isnt sure what line makes aubot respond
#2340 [16:11] <Minecraft_nick> I have 1.0.0 and this started with the 1.8 updates
#2341 [16:12] <thesage> then there is no hope for you sir, soz.
#2342 [16:12] <thesage> wait till 1.0.1?
#2343 [16:12] <|Kiikun|> Minecraft_nick: try updating your video drivers. it was supposed to be fixed, but the fix might have gotten unfixed in the code-optimization :/
#2344 [16:12] <thesage> ^ also this
#2345 [16:12] <|Kiikun|> the 1.9s work i think
#2346 [16:12] <|Kiikun|> the prereleases
#2347 [16:12] <thesage> beta?
#2348 [16:12] <thesage> yeah.
#2349 [16:13] <|Kiikun|> but said prereleases are buggy as well.
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#2352 [16:13] <thesage> all i can say is, if you can write in java - give notch a hand.
#2353 [16:13] <thesage> he needs it.
#2354 [16:14] <mib_kp14p7> when I try to run minecraft it shows the loading screen then goes to a blackish grey screen. why is it doing this and how can i make it stop?
#2355 [16:14] <|Kiikun|> lol... he has jeb workign with him... and bet he can pick from anyone ion the modding community to help him
#2356 [16:14] <|Kiikun|> mib_kp14p7: playign on the webpage? are youy modding?
#2357 [16:15] <mib_kp14p7> ive tried on the webpage and the downloaded one neither work.
#2358 [16:15] <mib_e4srqf> so I just purchased first time won't let me download / whatever, I suppose it's the problem that I got it on the wrong day and will have to wait in line to get it workin' eh?
#2359 [16:16] <thesage> just give it an hour or so, mib
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#2361 [16:16] <Oppie> fair enough
#2362 [16:16] <thesage> when i registered during beta, i had to wait an hour before i could even login
#2363 [16:16] <Morrolan> o/
#2364 [16:16] <Jovet> Oppie: make sure you get your confirmation email
#2365 [16:17] <|Kiikun|> mib_kp14p7: use the client (the download) and do a forceupdate.
#2366 [16:17] <|Kiikun|> ?? forceupdate
#2367 [16:17] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2368 [16:17] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2369 [16:17] <Oppie> ya, I got confirmation e-mail then I changed my password to make sure I was doing it right
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#2371 [16:18] <|Kiikun|> Oppie: that your MC username?
#2372 [16:18] <Jovet> Oppie: the authentication servers have been strugglign lately so just be patient.
#2373 [16:18] <Jovet> Oppie: it may say your username/password are bad when in fact they are okay
#2374 [16:18] <Oppie> it just says it can't connect to minecraft.net
#2375 [16:19] <|Kiikun|> ?? error/cantconnect
#2376 [16:19] <Jovet> Oppie: as long as you have your confirmation email then your account will be upgraded ...eventually
#2377 [16:19] <VoxelHead> error/cantconnect: Cannot connect to minecraft.net
#2378 [16:19] <VoxelHead> error/cantconnect: This error can occur for a number of reasons, including outdated java config, incorrect system time, or firewall issues. To fix it, make sure the system time is correct, check that java is allowed to access the internet, and if that fails, uninstall and reinstall java.
#2379 [16:19] <Oppie> oh you know I don't think I grabbed the new java.
#2380 [16:19] <Oppie> on the page
#2381 [16:19] <Jovet> get 1.6.29
#2382 [16:19] <mib_kp14p7> how do i change my nickname on this?
#2383 [16:19] <Jovet> mib_kp14p7: enter: /nick newnickname
#2384 [16:20] <|Kiikun|> Oppie: also doublecheck your time and make sure your windows user name doesnt have an ! in it
#2385 [16:20] <Rye> thanks
#2386 [16:22] <Rye> anyways like i said before when i try to play minecraft it shows the loading bar finishes loading then goes to a blackish grey screen. whats happening?
#2387 [16:23] <|Kiikun|> Rye: thats uaually a sign of someone failign at modding. doing a forceuopdate shoudl fix it
#2388 [16:24] <Toagac> Does anyone know if nether fortressess are completely seed based?
#2389 [16:24] <|Kiikun|> Toagac: i woudl asume so o.o;
#2390 [16:24] <Rye> i dont have any mods and ive never even played before, i just got the game yesterday and i havent played yet.
#2391 [16:25] <|Kiikun|> Rye: did you do a forceupdate like i said?
#2392 [16:25] <Rye> ill try
#2393 [16:25] <Rye> .
#2394 [16:25] <Jovet> Toagac: Everything is seed based. What do you mean?
#2395 [16:25] <Oppie> o.k.... check my time?
#2396 [16:25] <|Kiikun|> Oppie: what time is it where you are?
#2397 [16:25] <Oppie> 2:25
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#2399 [16:26] <Jovet> Oppie: Is your time zone set correctly too?
#2400 [16:26] <aljorub> are you able to transfore single player worlds to multiplayer
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#2402 [16:27] <Rye> hmm tried a forced update and it loaded then went to a black screen again.
#2403 [16:27] <Jovet> aljorub: yes you can
#2404 [16:27] <|Kiikun|> aljorub: yes. just movethe world to the server
#2405 [16:27] <aljorub> thankyou and how do you get single player commands
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#2407 [16:27] <|Kiikun|> Rye: youre on windows?
#2408 [16:27] <Jovet> aljorub: single-player commands require a Mod.
#2409 [16:28] <|Kiikun|> aljorub: http://bit.ly/spcmod
#2410 [16:28] <aljorub> thanx
#2411 [16:28] <aljorub> is that wat zackscott use
#2412 [16:28] <|Kiikun|> we wont be helping installit.. so read the post :P
#2413 [16:28] * |Kiikun| has no idea who zackscott is
#2413 [16:28] <aljorub> i no is it safe
#2414 [16:29] <Rye> kiikun: yes im on windows
#2415 [16:29] <|Kiikun|> aljorub: its safe until you type /spawn creeper 100000 :D
#2416 [16:29] <Jovet> hahahaha
#2417 [16:29] <aljorub> what will that do lol
#2418 [16:29] <Jovet> it will try and spawn 100,000 creepers around you :P
#2419 [16:30] <|Kiikun|> Rye: does your windows user name happen to have an ! in it?
#2420 [16:30] <Rye> uh i dont know how do i check that?
#2421 [16:30] <|Kiikun|> Rye: the name on the top of your start menu
#2422 [16:31] <|Kiikun|> usually right near the user icon/pic
#2423 [16:31] <Oppie> yes, time zone ius correct
#2424 [16:32] <Oppie> but ya, come to think of it username does have !
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#2426 [16:32] <|Kiikun|> :! > Oppie
#2427 [16:32] <WugBot> Oppie: (!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#2428 [16:32] <WugBot> Oppie: (!) Special Character Workaround: http://wug.me/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work (though it usually does) and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as admin.
#2429 [16:33] <Oppie> or I could just change my username eh
#2430 [16:33] <|Kiikun|> that too.
#2431 [16:33] <|Kiikun|> you cant CHANGE what it says. you have to make a new user
#2432 [16:33] <Jovet> uhhh I believe you can?
#2433 [16:34] <|Kiikun|> renamign it just changes what its displayed as, not what windows uses internally
#2434 [16:34] <Jovet> Oh
#2435 [16:34] <Jovet> thought you might say that
#2436 [16:35] <|Kiikun|> so say i make user named Kii!!! then all my stuff woudl be stored as C:\Users\Kii!!!\ which is where java breaks
#2437 [16:35] <Jovet> can you 1) create new account 2) delete new account files (i.e. C:\Users\newaccount) 3) Rename old account files ( C:\Users\oldaccount! ==> C:\Users\newaccount ) ?
#2438 [16:35] <|Kiikun|> Jovet: i dont think that converts 'ownerships' :P
#2439 [16:35] <Jovet> actually that should work except for the Registry hive
#2440 [16:35] <|Kiikun|> it might work.. but woudl wanna test it first
#2441 [16:35] <Jovet> you could change the ownership easily enough
#2442 [16:37] <Jovet> ....depending on your flavor of windows.
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#2444 [16:39] <Oppie> well, that was my problem, and renaming doesn't fix it
#2445 [16:39] <Oppie> created new user and it did
#2446 [16:40] <|Kiikun|> :3
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#2448 [16:40] <Jovet> renaming would be an involved process... heh
#2449 [16:41] <sYs> minecraft used to run on my computer and now its not can you help?
#2450 [16:41] <Rye> no my windows username doesnt have a ! in it.
#2451 [16:41] <Oppie> super duper thanks for the help.
#2452 [16:41] <Jovet> sYs: what is happening when Minecraft now doesn't run?
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#2454 [16:41] <mrmoo> hello when selected my world and the game is starting up my sceen goes black then minecraft shuts down and a popup says te igfx thingy stopped and has succesfully recovered
#2455 [16:42] <sYs> idk it was running yeterday for about 45 min
#2456 [16:42] <sYs> tthen i had to get off
#2457 [16:42] <|Kiikun|> Rye: have you updated the video driver recently? im sorta stuck without any idea of what the cause is :/
#2458 [16:42] <sYs> when igot back on it wouldnt run
#2459 [16:42] <Jovet> sYs: How have you been starting it to run it?
#2460 [16:42] <|Kiikun|> mrmoo: igfx is intel drivers.. they crashed.
#2461 [16:42] <sYs> just going to in browser and trying to play it
#2462 [16:43] <mrmoo> wat can i do :0
#2463 [16:43] <|Kiikun|> sYs: this classic?
#2464 [16:43] <Jovet> sYs: have you paid for the game or are you playing Classic?
#2465 [16:43] <sYs> it finishes loading then the screen goes black
#2466 [16:43] <sYs> ti payed
#2467 [16:43] <|Kiikun|> ??> mrmoo gpu/intel
#2468 [16:43] <VoxelHead> mrmoo: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2469 [16:43] <sYs> t*i
#2470 [16:43] <|Kiikun|> sYs: so youre playign the release? Minecraft 1.0.0?
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#2472 [16:44] <sYs> i was playing 1.8 yesterday
#2473 [16:44] <mrmoo> so i must buy a new one
#2474 [16:44] <mrmoo> r they free?
#2475 [16:44] <sYs> tbut i can switch back and forth between 1.8 and 1.0
#2476 [16:44] <|Kiikun|> mrmoo: you dont buy drivers :P
#2477 [16:44] <mrmoo> sorry im new what do i do
#2478 [16:45] <Jovet> mrmoo: if someone wants to charge you for drivers, they're not very trustworthy
#2479 [16:45] <mrmoo> ok
#2480 [16:45] <Jovet> sYs: What do you click on, on the website minecraft.net, when you go to play it?
#2481 [16:45] <mrmoo> do i goto that url and download it yes?
#2482 [16:45] <sYs> yea
#2483 [16:45] <sYs> in browser
#2484 [16:46] <|Kiikun|> mrmoo: either do the 'autodetect my drivers' on the page, or i can have you send me your comp's info
#2485 [16:46] <Jovet> sYs: You say you're playing it "online" but you can't switch between 1.8 and 1.0.0 unless you download it.
#2486 [16:46] <mrmoo> ok how do i send it ti you?
#2487 [16:46] <sYs> no i just go to the minecraft folder and switch the new .jar with the old one
#2488 [16:46] <|Kiikun|> :dx > mrmoo
#2489 [16:46] <WugBot> mrmoo: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2490 [16:46] <WugBot> mrmoo: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2491 [16:46] <|Kiikun|> mrmoo: do what WugBot just said :3
#2492 [16:47] <sYs> i did it a couple times
#2493 [16:47] <Jovet> sYs: that's not playing it "online".... are you saying you're actually playing multiplayer online?
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#2495 [16:47] <sYs> well.. i play multiplayer in 1.8 and single in 1.0
#2496 [16:47] * |Kiikun| didnt think the weblauncher allowed using older jars o.o;
#2496 [16:47] * |Kiikun| knows it doesnt allow modding
#2496 [16:47] <Jovet> why woudln't it?
#2497 [16:48] <Jovet> hmm
#2498 [16:48] <sYs> the server i play on hasnt updated yet
#2499 [16:48] <sYs> tso i have toplay on it wiht 1.8
#2500 [16:48] <Jovet> sYs: What we really want to know is, when you want to start minecraft to play it, how are you doing it?
#2501 [16:49] <|Kiikun|> Jovet: he said he's playign via www.minecraft.net/play
#2502 [16:49] <sYs> i go to the website, click on in browser, and wait for the game to start
#2503 [16:49] <|Kiikun|> sYs: try swapping the jars again?
#2504 [16:50] <skejoe> kiikun
#2505 [16:50] <|Kiikun|> skejoe?
#2506 [16:50] <sYs> i did it u bunch of times and it doesnt do much
#2507 [16:50] <skejoe> do you know much about mods?
#2508 [16:50] <sYs> but ill try again
#2509 [16:50] <|Kiikun|> skejoe: only the ones i use. SPC TMI and a bit of WorldEdit (via SPC)
#2510 [16:50] * Jovet is clueless and shrugs.
#2510 [16:51] <skejoe> ok so u know how they work
#2511 [16:51] <sYs> switch to the new or old .jar
#2512 [16:51] <|Kiikun|> sYs: copy the 1.8 jar out of the .minecraft folder. then delete /bin and /resources. then reconnect to the webpage and let it redownload everything
#2513 [16:52] <sYs> k
#2514 [16:52] * Exdero looks around.
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#2515 [16:53] <|Kiikun|> skejoe: only so far as i use them. if your askign for mod help, go read the forum post for the mod itself
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#2518 [16:53] <Rye> right back tried making a new windows username and that didnt help. So what am i supposed to do?
#2519 [16:54] <s> the scree just went black
#2520 [16:54] <s> this is sYs
#2521 [16:54] <Exdero> |Kiikun|: Could you take a look at an error report for me?
#2522 [16:54] <|Kiikun|> s: you can do /nick sYs again
#2523 [16:54] <s> ok
#2524 [16:54] <|Kiikun|> :pastebin > Exdero
#2525 [16:54] <WugBot> Exdero: (pastebin) Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#2526 [16:54] <Exdero> WugBot is working?
#2527 [16:55] * Exdero claps excitedly.
#2527 [16:55] <sYs> the screen went black and didnt do anything
#2528 [16:55] <|Kiikun|> yup :P
#2529 [16:55] <Jovet> Rye: if your username didn't have special characters in it, a new one woudln't affect anything
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#2531 [16:55] <sYs> anyone there?
#2532 [16:56] <Rye> oh gotcha. Anyways what can i do to fix the black screen?
#2533 [16:56] <skejoe> kiikun my problem is that my minecraft doesn't open
#2534 [16:56] <|Kiikun|> sYs: something caused your screen to black out...
#2535 [16:56] <|Kiikun|> ??> skejoe forceupdate
#2536 [16:56] <VoxelHead> skejoe: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2537 [16:56] <VoxelHead> skejoe: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2538 [16:56] <Jovet> Rye: let me re-read your chattings
#2539 [16:56] * |Kiikun| has to go to class
#2539 [16:56] <skejoe> i tried to
#2540 [16:56] <sYs> anyone know how to fix black screen?
#2541 [16:56] <skejoe> Wug told me to do this
#2542 [16:57] <Exdero> |Kiikun|: http://pastebin.com/mW0SC9Ae
#2543 [16:57] <Jovet> Rye: try 1) closing Minecraft, 2) disabling your Anti-Virus and anti-malware software, 3) Restarting Minecraft 4) trying it again
#2544 [16:57] <Jovet> sYs: you can try that too
#2545 [16:58] <Jovet> skejoe: Wug told you to do what?
#2546 [16:58] <|Kiikun|> Exdero: modloader is breaking. did you install everything in the right order?
#2547 [16:58] <sYs> ive tried all of those but #2 and i cant do that
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#2549 [16:58] <Jovet> sYs: why can't you do #2?
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#2551 [16:59] <sYs> my dad wont let me :(
#2552 [16:59] <Jovet> Exdero: when is that happening ?
#2553 [16:59] <sYs> is there anything else i can do?
#2554 [16:59] <mrmoo> hi ehh.. i cant paste it
#2555 [16:59] <|Kiikun|> sYs: its a troubleshooting step. you reenable right afterwards
#2556 [16:59] <Exdero> |Kiikun|: If by that you mean installing ModLoader first, then yes. Install order: Modloader, Audiomod, Singleplayercommands, TooManyItems.
#2557 [16:59] <sYs> i know, but he wont let me
#2558 [17:00] <Jovet> sYs: yeah we're not saying disable it permanently, just for like 5 minutes
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#2560 [17:00] <Rye> Im hesitant to close my Anti-Virus ill do that if thats the only way but if theres anything else that might work id like to try that first
#2561 [17:00] <mrmoo> hello
#2562 [17:00] <sYs> same
#2563 [17:00] * Exdero didn't notice the ModLoader error, so he came here.
#2563 [17:00] <Jovet> Rye: it's the most likely problem, that's why we have you try it first.
#2564 [17:00] <Jovet> Some anti-virus software packages will block components of Minecraft even though they're perfectly okay.
#2565 [17:00] <Rye> oh gotcha
#2566 [17:00] <Skejow> i stopped my anti-virus, nothing changes
#2567 [17:00] <sYs> bye everyone i g2g
#2568 [17:01] <Skejow> the same "fatal error (4):null" appears
#2569 [17:01] <|Kiikun|> Exdero: reinstall it all. its sayign that it doesnt know what the 'BaseMod' Class is
#2570 [17:01] <Jovet> If the anti-virus software is the problem then it can be told to ignore Minecraft.
#2571 [17:01] <Skejow> darn it
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#2573 [17:01] * |Kiikun| goes to class!
#2573 [17:01] <Skejow> can ou tell me how to Correctly uninstall it
#2574 [17:01] <Skejow> i tried that too
#2575 [17:02] <mrmoo> kiikun i cant paste it when i right click select isnt an option.
#2576 [17:02] <Jovet> Skejow: which Anti-Virus do you have? you only have one, right?
#2577 [17:02] <Skejow> avira
#2578 [17:02] <Skejow> only one *
#2579 [17:02] <|Kiikun|> ??> Skejow virus/avira
#2580 [17:02] <VoxelHead> Skejow: (virus/avira) To stop Avira from reporting Mincraft as a false-positive, please do the following:
#2581 [17:02] <VoxelHead> Skejow: (virus/avira) Open Avira, open the Extras menu, and click Configuration. Then, set the switch to 'Expert' and open the 'Internet Protection' sub-menu, and open 'Web Protection', and then 'Scan'. Click 'Exceptions', and at 'URLs Skipped by Web Protection', enter 'http://s3.amazonaws.com/*', and click Add, then Apply.
#2582 [17:02] * |Kiikun| really is gone now
#2582 [17:03] <mrmoo> hello WugBot
#2583 [17:03] <mrmoo> i cant paste
#2584 [17:04] <Jovet> WugBot is a robot, not a person.
#2585 [17:04] <mrmoo> oh
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#2587 [17:05] <mrmoo> kiikun
#2588 [17:05] <mrmoo> i cant paste
#2589 [17:05] <Exdero> Yes. He lives on a diet consisting of copper wire, blood, and the tears of people who can't run minecraft.
#2590 [17:05] <Jovet> You mean you can't paste in here, mrmoo?
#2591 [17:05] <Skejow> i tried to get the "too many items mod" but failed, i had to delete the bin file (like it is usually said to do) but after doing that, minecraft was not starting
#2592 [17:05] <mrmoo> no pastebin
#2593 [17:05] <Jovet> if you can't Paste then you have nothing on the clipboard to paste.
#2594 [17:06] <Exdero> mrmoo: Highlight the text and select paste, then go to Pastebin and press 'Ctrl' and 'V'
#2595 [17:06] <mrmoo> i right click and theres no paste option
#2596 [17:06] <Rye> Jovet: how do i selectively tell the anti-virus to ignore minecraft?
#2597 [17:06] <Jovet> Exdero: I think you mean highlight and then Copy ;)
#2598 [17:06] <Jovet> Rye: did it work once you disabled it?
#2599 [17:07] <Jovet> Rye: ..."it" being Minecraft
#2600 [17:07] <Exdero> Jovet: Yeah, but I don't spell check, cause I'm all pretensious 'n' such.
#2601 [17:07] <Vulcan123> Hello, I have a friend who has a problem when getting in to multi-player servers every 10 mins he gets disconnected and it says Cannot Connect Lost Streaming
#2602 [17:07] <mrmoo> notin i presed ctrl v and notin
#2603 [17:07] <Jovet> Exdero: that wasn't a spelling problem, it was a logic problem.
#2604 [17:08] <Jovet> mrmoo: What are you trying to "paste"?
#2605 [17:08] <Jovet> Vulcan123: how many users on the server? anyone else have the problem on the server or does it only happen to your friend?
#2606 [17:09] <Vulcan123> t
#2607 [17:09] <Exdero> Jovet: I meant to write 'paste' and wrote 'copy'...I'm sorry, my logic processor isn't functioning properly today.
#2608 [17:09] <Vulcan123> Jovet: there is only about 6 and no one else gets it
#2609 [17:10] <mrmoo> theres seriously no paste option
#2610 [17:10] <Exdero> mrmoo: Press 'Ctrl' and 'V'
#2611 [17:10] <Exdero> mrmoo: While on Pastebin :D
#2612 [17:11] <mrmoo> yeah wait i tink i got it
#2613 [17:12] <Jovet> Exdero: I can tell. LOL
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#2615 [17:12] * Exdero got punched in the jaw and has a headache.
#2615 [17:12] <Vulcan123> Jovet: Do you have any idea what the problem is?
#2616 [17:13] <Jovet> Vulcan123: Does he have a large ping? Bad internet connection? I'm not sure what else to suggest.
#2617 [17:13] <Rye> Jovet: i tried turning off the anti-virus and it didnt help.
#2618 [17:13] <mrmoo> wen give the paste a title i can but wen i do that it says operation aported
#2619 [17:14] <Exdero> mrmoo: It doesn't need a title
#2620 [17:14] <Vulcan123> Jovet: OK we will see what we can do
#2621 [17:14] <Jovet> Vulcan123: There may be other factors that someone else might know
#2622 [17:14] <mrmoo> ok but if doent i cant paste?
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#2624 [17:14] <mollstam> lo
#2625 [17:14] <Jovet> mrmoo: are you actually using http://pastebin.com ?
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#2627 [17:15] <Jovet> Rye: have you force-updated Minecraft? I forget
#2628 [17:15] <Rye> Yes
#2629 [17:15] <Rye> Multiple times
#2630 [17:16] <Jovet> Rye: Latest Java and graphics drivers?
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#2632 [17:16] <Vulcan123> Jovet yeah ok do you know anyone in the chat who would help
#2633 [17:16] <mrmoo> yeah i got it there (with no title) but it said operation aborted
#2634 [17:16] <Jovet> Vulcan123: there are plenty of people in here who may be able to help, but whether they're paying attention is another matter.
#2635 [17:16] * Jovet glowers at mollstam. :P :)
#2635 [17:17] <Vulcan123> ahh yeah
#2636 [17:17] <Jovet> None of us knows everything but 13 heads are better than one. lol
#2637 [17:17] <Rye> latest Java i dont know about the graphics drivers.
#2638 [17:17] <mollstam> Wug[Hyperspace]: hyperspace? :o
#2639 [17:17] <Vulcan123> I'll send anothe message later
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#2641 [17:17] <Jovet> Rye: http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre
#2642 [17:18] <ineedhelp> hi all, i was wondering if anybody could help me. i want to make a minecraft mod of my own (for mac) i have some coding experience but dont know what to do. please help =D
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#2644 [17:18] <mrmoo> internet explorer cant open the webpage wen i submit
#2645 [17:18] <ineedhelp> can anybody help?
#2646 [17:18] <Exdero> ??> ineedhelp mods
#2647 [17:18] <VoxelHead> ineedhelp: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2648 [17:18] <VoxelHead> ineedhelp: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#2649 [17:19] <DreadLindwyrm> I don't think that's the right one...
#2650 [17:19] <Exdero> Yeah...It isn't..
#2651 [17:19] <DreadLindwyrm> #risucraft ?
#2652 [17:19] <Exdero> It's been a while since I've been here >.<
#2653 [17:19] <Rye> Jovet: it said Sorry! We couldn't find the document requested. The file that you requested could not be found on this server. If you provided the URL, please check to ensure that it is correct.
#2654 [17:19] <ineedhelp> im not asking that, i want to know how to MAKE a mod, not how to INSTALL a mod
#2655 [17:19] <mib_qxy11h> i just purchased minecraftand it will not load - "says - cant connect to minecraft.net andnot downloaded
#2656 [17:19] <ineedhelp> if this is not the correct channle then what channel should i go to?
#2657 [17:20] <mrmoo> yeah operation abortad the internet explorer cant open it
#2658 [17:20] <DreadLindwyrm> Would #risucraft be the right place to ask about how to make mods?
#2659 [17:20] <Exdero> ineedhelp: Try #risucraft. They'll be able to help. They've yelled at me a ton of times saying that they help with MODDING (Making mods), not installing mods.
#2660 [17:20] <mollstam> ineedhelp: checkout http://wiki.bukkit.org/Plugin_Tutorial I guess. Bukkit is nice for server mods
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#2662 [17:20] <ineedhelp> thank you
#2663 [17:20] <Jovet> Rye: try http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2664 [17:21] <Exdero> ??>> Exdero help
#2665 [17:21] <mrmoo> it wont work
#2666 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> mollstam!
#2667 [17:21] <mrmoo> :0
#2668 [17:21] <mollstam> GreyVulpine: !
#2669 [17:22] <Jovet> yay others are showing up so I can leave
#2670 [17:22] <Dragonspun> When is the official release of Minecraft 1.0 (non beta) going to be available to the people already playing? ie: Update option on logging into the client or a place to download it. Forum and Google searches have failed me thus far. Thanks in advance.
#2671 [17:22] * GreyVulpine kicks mollstam, "Da login/password thing be screwy."
#2671 [17:22] <DreadLindwyrm> Dragonspun: Just update your client
#2672 [17:22] <mollstam> GreyVulpine: -.- ?
#2673 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Also, has Wug PMed you about his little exploit?
#2674 [17:22] <mollstam> nope
#2675 [17:22] <Rye> Jovet: it said Congratulations! You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 29).
#2676 [17:22] <mollstam> he just told me to get on
#2677 [17:22] <Dragonspun> It does not give me an option to update. How do I force one?
#2678 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> People reporting password recovery be a little screwy and not changing the password
#2679 [17:23] <mollstam> humm
#2680 [17:23] <Exdero> ??< index
#2681 [17:23] <DreadLindwyrm> CLick options, then select "force update", then login as normal
#2682 [17:23] <Jovet> Rye: that's good
#2683 [17:23] <Dragonspun> Thank you. :)
#2684 [17:23] <mrmoo> wat is that intel drivers url
#2685 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> ?? gpu/intel
#2686 [17:23] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2687 [17:23] <Rye> so whats wrong?
#2688 [17:23] <mrmoo> :):)thanks
#2689 [17:23] <mollstam> GreyVulpine: how was the job interview?
#2690 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Great! I'm going in for a second interview tomorrow morning
#2691 [17:24] <Jovet> Everyone: Rye is having the black screen problem, disabling his AV didn't help, and he has the latest Java.
#2692 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Jovet - Has he tried deleting .minecraft files, saving saves?
#2693 [17:24] <Jovet> he's a new user, hasn't played yet, I believe
#2694 [17:25] <mrmoo> my igfx crashed
#2695 [17:25] <Jovet> I'll let you guys interrogate him further, I gotta get going
#2696 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Take care Jovet.
#2697 [17:25] <mrmoo> wat can i do
#2698 [17:25] <Rye> yup never played.
#2699 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Rye - What operating system are you on?
#2700 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Rye - What operating system are you on?
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#2703 [17:25] <Rye> what?
#2704 [17:26] <mrmoo> my igfx crashed wat can i do
#2705 [17:26] <DreadLindwyrm> Windows? Mac? Linux?
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#2707 [17:26] <mrmoo> please help
#2708 [17:27] <Rye> oh i have windows
#2709 [17:28] <mrmoo> igf ched scren black after t loads wt can i do
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#2711 [17:29] <mrmoo> igfx crashed scree black fter loading wat do i do wat was that autodetect thing wats that
#2712 [17:29] <mollstam> GreyVulpine: know anything of this exploit?
#2713 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Wug would need to fill you in on that.
#2714 [17:30] <mollstam> yeah oke, I shall sleep now. Just got home from vegas
#2715 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Take care mollstam.
#2716 [17:30] <mollstam> GreyVulpine: if you see him he can just pm me and I'll read it later
#2717 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#2718 [17:30] <mollstam> <3
#2719 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Rye - When does it black screen for you?
#2720 [17:31] <mib_qxy11h> I need a one on one chat with help if that is possible!!!
#2721 [17:31] <Rye> after the load screen. it doesnt say anything just black screens.
#2722 [17:31] <mib_qxy11h> My question was not answered for a long time.
#2723 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Sorry mib_qxy11h, as you can see, there's not a lot of helpers on right now.
#2724 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Could you start by telling me what operating system you're running (windows, linux, mac?) and if minecraft's worked before for you.
#2725 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Rye - Could you try the inbrowser client at minecraft.net?
#2726 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Rye - See if that works?
#2727 [17:33] <Rye> what do you mean?
#2728 [17:33] <Rye> oh wait never mind.
#2729 [17:34] <Rye> and ive tried that it doesnt work on that either. goes to a greyish black screen
#2730 [17:36] <mib_qxy11h> windows
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#2732 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Rye - Alright, leave the page open there with the greyish screen. Do you see a white coffee cup icon in your system tray? By your cloc?
#2733 [17:36] <Rye> yes
#2734 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - I take it you're a new user then? Never had minecraft working?
#2735 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Rye - Alright, click on that, then choose the console.
#2736 [17:37] <mib_qxy11h> not new
#2737 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Rye - Do you see a bunch of text in the console window?
#2738 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Minecraft's worked for you before?
#2739 [17:38] <mib_qxy11h> yes
#2740 [17:38] <mib_qxy11h> not new at all but new to it with windows and yes i see the coffee cup
#2741 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - The coffee cup icon comment wasn't for you, it was for Rye
#2742 [17:38] <mib_qxy11h> ok
#2743 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> The person I'm talking to, I'll prefix my line with their name.
#2744 [17:38] <mib_qxy11h> yes it said mine
#2745 [17:38] <quer> hey
#2746 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Wait, so you've never played minecraft on that windows machine before?
#2747 [17:39] <mib_qxy11h> no
#2748 [17:39] <mib_qxy11h> and it says cant connect to minecraft.net
#2749 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Alright. Tell me this, do you log into that computer when you first boot the machine up?
#2750 [17:39] <mib_qxy11h> dont need to, does it auto
#2751 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Alright. What version of windows do you run? XP? Vista? 7?
#2752 [17:40] <mib_qxy11h> windows 7
#2753 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#2754 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Press enter, tell me if the folder's name it takes you to, has any exclaimation marks (!) in it
#2755 [17:41] <mib_qxy11h> doesnt find user profile
#2756 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Are you typing exactly %userprofile%
#2757 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> With the percent signs?
#2758 [17:41] <mib_qxy11h> yes
#2759 [17:41] <mib_qxy11h> yes
#2760 [17:42] <mib_qxy11h> doesnt find it
#2761 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure? It should bring up a window..
#2762 [17:42] <mib_qxy11h> sure
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#2764 [17:43] <mib_qxy11h> i go to minecraft.net, download it for windows, run it and it says publisher not reconized
#2765 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#2766 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> That's normal
#2767 [17:43] <Rye> hmm when i try clicking on it the page freezes
#2768 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> Can't connect to minecraft.net means your computer can't connect to the login server, mib_qxy11h.
#2769 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Alright. Try this. Go to your start menu, type in: cmd
#2770 [17:43] <mib_qxy11h> yes and it says when i log in that it cant connect to minecraft.net and it says (not downloaded)
#2771 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - At the black command prompt, type in: cd %userprofile%
#2772 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Let me know if it the next line says C:\users\.....
#2773 [17:44] <mib_qxy11h> it does
#2774 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Rye - Hmm, it could mean that java's somewhat screwy on your computer. I'd recommend a complete uninstall/reinstall of java
#2775 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - What is the full line?
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#2777 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Does that line happen to contain any ! marks in it?
#2778 [17:45] <mib_qxy11h> no
#2779 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Alright then..
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#2781 [17:46] <Wug> mollstam: you still there
#2782 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Could you pull up your browser, and try connecting to this address: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=notch&password=notreal&version=13
#2783 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Let me know if you see "Bad login" there
#2784 [17:46] <mib_qxy11h> yep
#2785 [17:47] <Wug> crap. hes sleeping apparently
#2786 [17:47] <Rye> how do i uninstall?
#2787 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Hmm, then it's gotta be some sort of security software or firewall on your computer that's blocking minecraft. Are you able to play through the browser at minecraft.net?
#2788 [17:47] <mib_qxy11h> no
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#2790 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> Rye - Start -> control panel -> uninstall/remove a program
#2791 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - What happens in the browser?
#2792 [17:48] <mib_qxy11h> black screen and never loads
#2793 [17:49] <mib_qxy11h> black screen and it never loads
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#2795 [17:49] <charmander> wats all in the 1.0.0 update
#2796 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Could you pull up the inbrowser client again. When it black screens, please go to the white coffee cup icon, and right click -> open console
#2797 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Guest5509 - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#2798 [17:50] <Guest5509> got any good pern
#2799 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> pern?
#2800 [17:50] <Guest5509> why are your words blue
#2801 [17:50] <Guest5509> i wantpern
#2802 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> What's "pern"?
#2803 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Do you have the java console open now? Do you see text in there?
#2804 [17:50] <mib_qxy11h> ok now?
#2805 [17:50] <Guest5509> people eating rice nuggets
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#2807 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Please copy the text in the java console. Paste it at the text box at pastebin.com and submit it, then copy the address in your browser's address bar and give it to us
#2808 [17:51] <mib_qxy11h> it just says bad login there too
#2809 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Wait, you're not able to log into the website at all?
#2810 [17:52] <mib_qxy11h> oh i can there
#2811 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Are you able to pull up the java console?
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#2813 [17:52] <mib_qxy11h> im logged in at the website now
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#2815 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Please go to the inbrowser link at http://www.minecraft.net/play/ --- let it load until it black screens, then look for the white coffee cup icon in your system tray. Open up the java console through that
#2816 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - We need to see the text in the java console when you do.
#2817 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> mib_qxy11h - Please copy the text in the java console. Paste it at the text box at pastebin.com and submit it, then copy the address in your browser's address bar and give it to us
#2818 [17:54] <mib_qxy11h> not found but i have to go
#2819 [17:55] <mib_qxy11h> i will call IF there is a number
#2820 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> There isn't, but we're always here (mostly)
#2821 [17:55] <mib_qxy11h> thanks for trying to help me with this anyway.
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#2826 [17:59] <meeeee> hey wug you there
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#2828 [18:00] <meeeee> anybody
#2829 [18:01] <meeeee> hello
#2830 [18:01] <meeeee> can someone help me
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#2832 [18:01] <DreadLindwyrm> meeeee: what is the problem?
#2833 [18:01] <sprog> minecraft keeps crashing
#2834 [18:02] <sprog> it says encountered a problem
#2835 [18:02] <sprog> hello?
#2836 [18:02] <meeeee> well when i play the in browser and then i accept all the agreements the screen goes blank
#2837 [18:02] <sprog> wait
#2838 [18:02] <DreadLindwyrm> You might need to update your java meeeee
#2839 [18:03] <sprog> ok
#2840 [18:03] <sprog> how do i do that
#2841 [18:03] <meeeee> oh ok where do i do that
#2842 [18:03] <DreadLindwyrm> It might also be video drivers.
#2843 [18:03] <DreadLindwyrm> sprog - what exact error do you get.
#2844 [18:03] <sprog> encountering a problem it says
#2845 [18:03] <meeeee> its not the video drivers i know that
#2846 [18:03] <DreadLindwyrm> ?? java
#2847 [18:04] <meeeee> yeah do i go to there website
#2848 [18:04] <DreadLindwyrm> ?? index
#2849 [18:04] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#2850 [18:04] <DreadLindwyrm> meeeee: that should work. I used to know how to get the direct link though.
#2851 [18:04] <sprog> how can i fix the black screen
#2852 [18:05] <DreadLindwyrm> ?? getjava meee
#2853 [18:05] <DreadLindwyrm> ?? getjava
#2854 [18:05] <VoxelHead> getjava: http://www.java.com/en/download/
#2855 [18:05] <sprog> is that my problem
#2856 [18:05] <DreadLindwyrm> YOu could try it, it might help
#2857 [18:05] <sprog> well im getting a black screen
#2858 [18:06] <sprog> hold on
#2859 [18:06] <sprog> huh
#2860 [18:06] <Rye> when i want to uninstall a program should i hit remove or is there a way to uninstall it?
#2861 [18:07] <sprog> i dont know if i should
#2862 [18:07] <sprog> wait if i download it will it update
#2863 [18:07] <sprog> automatically
#2864 [18:07] <DreadLindwyrm> Rye Some programmes have their own uninstaller, some need to use the windows one.
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#2866 [18:07] <DreadLindwyrm> It would try to update certainly. I believe it is 1.6 you are looking for.
#2867 [18:07] <Rye> ok thanks
#2868 [18:08] <Rye> where can i get java?
#2869 [18:08] <WugBot> Rye: (j) Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#2870 [18:08] <meeeee> ok im back it said that i was up to date
#2871 [18:09] <meeeee> that i was up to date with java
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#2873 [18:09] <sprog> wait how do icheck my version of java
#2874 [18:09] <Rye> which java should i use?
#2875 [18:09] <DreadLindwyrm> OK. If that didn't work, then I'm out. You might want to drop back later when some more people are on. They'll probably want you to check some settings.
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#2877 [18:09] <DreadLindwyrm> Rye I think it is 1.6
#2878 [18:10] <Rye> ok
#2879 [18:10] <Rye> where do i get java?
#2880 [18:10] <Rye> never mind
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#2885 [18:14] <meeeeeee> is there anybody that can help mr in particularly wug or voxel head
#2886 [18:15] <meeeeeee> *me*
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#2889 [18:16] <meeeeeee> hello anybody that can help me
#2890 [18:16] <TheNytangel> Wug can
#2891 [18:16] <TheNytangel> But I think he's on the john
#2892 [18:16] <meeeeeee> oh that's nice
#2893 [18:17] <meeeeeee> ok well tell wug when he gets back that i want him
#2894 [18:18] <TheNytangel> Well Wug has been having bowl problems lately.. might take him a couple hours
#2895 [18:19] <meeeeeee> oh then can you help me
#2896 [18:19] <TheNytangel> With?
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#2898 [18:20] <mib_m0llpr> help minecraft has a black screen
#2899 [18:20] <mib_m0llpr> ichecked all the videos did what it said but it still did not work
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#2901 [18:21] <meeeeeee> well is this a graphic card that can run minecraft
#2902 [18:21] <Rye> right whats the name of the adress where i can get java?
#2903 [18:22] <DreadLindwyrm> http://goo.gl/h2OEh
#2904 [18:22] <TheNytangel> I have to go eat supper, be back tomorrow
#2905 [18:22] <meeeeeee> GMA X3100
#2906 [18:22] <meeeeeee> what
#2907 [18:22] <Rye> which version should i download?
#2908 [18:23] <meeeee> hay
#2909 [18:23] <mib_m0llpr> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 11/22/11 3:23
#2910 [18:24] <mib_m0llpr> what can i do to fix this problem
#2911 [18:24] <mib_m0llpr> hello?
#2912 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Please don't flood the channel with a giant block of text.
#2913 [18:24] <meeeeeee> nothing minecraft has been overloading you cant do anything
#2914 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> If you need to share a large amount of text, please use http://www.pastebin.com
#2915 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> pastebin will provide you with a space to paste the text in, and a URL to share with others
#2916 [18:25] <mib_m0llpr> huh
#2917 [18:25] <mib_m0llpr> what do you mean nothing
#2918 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Ignore meeeeeee.
#2919 [18:25] <mib_m0llpr> ok
#2920 [18:26] <meeeeeee> oh shutup GreyVulpine
#2921 [18:26] <aljorub> if you have used mods can you still upload it as multiplayer
#2922 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Many single player mods do not work in multiplayer
#2923 [18:26] <DreadLindwyrm> meeeeeee: Grey actually knows what he's talkign about.
#2924 [18:26] <meeeeeee> yep
#2925 [18:27] <meeeeeee> ok but some things i do know
#2926 [18:27] <meeeeeee> k
#2927 [18:27] <mib_m0llpr> idk what happened ijust installed a map
#2928 [18:27] <aljorub> what about tmi
#2929 [18:27] <mib_m0llpr> then i lagged out
#2930 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> TMI is SP only
#2931 [18:27] <mib_m0llpr> tso i pushed ctrl alt and delete
#2932 [18:27] <aljorub> but wat if i have the items but dont have the mod anymore
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#2934 [18:27] <mib_m0llpr> and ended minecraft with the start task manager
#2935 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Then you'll still have the items you currently own in your inventory
#2936 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> mib_m0llpr - Please share your error report with us via pastebin.com, paste the text there at pastebin, submit it, then give us the URL to it
#2937 [18:28] <mib_m0llpr> then i opened it again and it said minecraft crased and it encountered a problem
#2938 [18:28] <james2hot> If you buy minecraft on one computer can you play it on another without having to buy it again???
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#2940 [18:28] <aljorub> so i can use the items on multiplayer
#2941 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> james2hot - Yes
#2942 [18:28] <meeeeeee> well is this graphic card ok for minecraft? GMA X3100
#2943 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Single player and multiplayer are unconnected
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#2945 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> meeeeeee - Won't play minecraft well.
#2946 [18:29] <aljorub> can you transfore them
#2947 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Anything you have in single player, will not transfer to multiplayer. Not unless the server's admin gives you it
#2948 [18:29] <meeeeeee> well when i try to play it comes up with a white screen
#2949 [18:29] <aljorub> what if i make my own server
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#2951 [18:29] <james2hot> what are the system requirements
#2952 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Then you can give yourself all the stuff you want. It's your server
#2953 [18:29] <aljorub> how do i make my own
#2954 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> ??> jamietech requirements
#2955 [18:30] <VoxelHead> jamietech: (requirements) Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#2956 [18:30] <mib_m0llpr> minecraft keeps crashing
#2957 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> mib_m0llpr - Please share your error report with us via pastebin.com, paste the text there at pastebin, submit it, then give us the URL to it
#2958 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - The server binary is available at http://www.minecraft.net/download
#2959 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Look for Minecraft_server
#2960 [18:31] <aljorub> is it easy
#2961 [18:31] <james2hot> If the mincraft classic works fine on my computer will the version that you have to buy work well to
#2962 [18:31] <meeeeeee> well when i try to play it comes up with a white screen
#2963 [18:31] <Ketsueki> james2hot: -maybe- however we can give you a better estimate if you run a system-hardware tool.
#2964 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> james2hot - Those two doesn't compare very well. In the backend, it's two entirely seperate games
#2965 [18:31] <Ketsueki> ??> james2hot win/dxdiag
#2966 [18:31] <VoxelHead> james2hot: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2967 [18:31] <VoxelHead> james2hot: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
#2968 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> The coding and the engine are significantly different
#2969 [18:32] <Ketsueki> james2hot: that's assuming you're running windows.
#2970 [18:32] <mib_m0llpr> http://pastebin.com/78ZMiPw7
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#2972 [18:32] <mib_m0llpr> http://pastebin.com/78ZMiPw7
#2973 [18:32] <Rye> what website can i go to to get java for windows?
#2974 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> :j
#2975 [18:32] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#2976 [18:32] <Ketsueki> mib_m0llpr: you need to do that dxdiag and post on pastebin thing too
#2977 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> mib_m0llpr - Please uninstall java completely from your system, then reinstall it from the above link
#2978 [18:33] <aljorub> how do i use it
#2979 [18:33] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: javara then?
#2980 [18:33] <mib_m0llpr> http://pastebin.com/78ZMiPw7
#2981 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Eh, shouldn't need javara unless java screws up royally
#2982 [18:33] <mib_m0llpr> http://pastebin.com/78ZMiPw7
#2983 [18:33] <mib_m0llpr> here is the link http://pastebin.com/78ZMiPw7
#2984 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> mib_m0llpr - Please uninstall java completely from your system, then reinstall it from the above link
#2985 [18:33] <Ketsueki> mib_m0llpr: quit pasting the same thing; it's already been processed
#2986 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> mib_m0llpr - Please uninstall java completely from your system, then reinstall it from the above link
#2987 [18:34] <mib_m0llpr> http://pastebin.com/78ZMiPw7
#2988 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_m0llpr - Please uninstall java completely from your system, then reinstall it from the above link
#2989 [18:34] <mib_m0llpr> http://pastebin.com/78ZMiPw7
#2990 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> I can do this all day.
#2991 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_m0llpr - Please uninstall java completely from your system, then reinstall it from the above link
#2992 [18:34] <mib_m0llpr> http://pastebin.com/78ZMiPw7
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#2994 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_m0llpr - Please uninstall java completely from your system, then reinstall it from the above link
#2995 [18:34] <mib_m0llpr> http://pastebin.com/78ZMiPw7
#2996 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> !kb mib_m0llpr
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#2998 [18:34] <meeeeeee> http://pastebin.com/Xc0dzhN2
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#3000 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_2x9i4w - Don't spam the channel
#3001 [18:35] <mib_2x9i4w> help minecraft keeps crashing
#3002 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_2x9i4w - You were told the solution, if you wish to follow it.
#3003 [18:36] <mib_2x9i4w> to check java
#3004 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Please uninstall java completely from your system, then reinstall it from http://goo.gl/h2OEh
#3005 [18:36] <james2hot> http://mibpaste.com/NdJFyU
#3006 [18:36] <mib_2x9i4w> oh ok
#3007 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> james2hot - There's nothing at that link
#3008 [18:36] <Ketsueki> meeeeeee: your gpu is too old/weak to run minecraft; that is the best conclusion I can come to. Even if you could you'd get like 2 FPS
#3009 [18:37] <james2hot> http://pastebin.com/2rqL26za
#3010 [18:37] <aljorub> the minecraft server says cant keep up has the system time changed
#3011 [18:37] <meeeeeee> dang ok
#3012 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Once? Or does it keep repeating it?
#3013 [18:37] <mib_2x9i4w> wait thats the solution
#3014 [18:37] <aljorub> once
#3015 [18:37] <aljorub> at the bottem
#3016 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Then you can ignore it safely
#3017 [18:38] <aljorub> now what do i do
#3018 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Now run the client, go to "Multiplayer" -> "Direct Connect" and put in: localhost
#3019 [18:38] <Ketsueki> james2hot: your system seems to have OK specs; you might have a bad java install, and your GPU drivers need an update, but otherwise it looks likely to work.
#3020 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> You should then be able to connect to your server
#3021 [18:38] <Ketsueki> ??> james2hot gpu/nvidia
#3022 [18:38] <VoxelHead> james2hot: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#3023 [18:38] <aljorub> thanx
#3024 [18:38] <james2hot> ok thank you very much
#3025 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that system should run minecraft no problem james2hot.
#3026 [18:39] <mib_2x9i4w> just to be sure
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#3028 [18:39] <aljorub> if i use my single player world can i still have a single player copy
#3029 [18:40] <mib_2x9i4w> wait how do i uninstall java
#3030 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Yes
#3031 [18:40] <aljorub> thanx
#3032 [18:40] <Ketsueki> bildramer: the same way you un-install anything else under windows; via a thingy in the control panel.
#3033 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> mib_2x9i4w - Start -> control panel -> programs and feature or remove a program -> look for java
#3034 [18:40] <Ketsueki> ... tab fail
#3035 [18:40] <aljorub> how do i get to my safes
#3036 [18:40] <james2hot> What do I do to get a good java istall??/////
#3037 [18:40] * GreyVulpine snrks
#3037 [18:40] <james2hot> install*
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#3039 [18:40] <mib_2x9i4w> ok
#3040 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - On windows?
#3041 [18:40] <aljorub> yes
#3042 [18:40] <mib_2x9i4w> lets see
#3043 [18:40] <Ketsueki> mib_2x9i4w: the same way you un-install anything else under windows; via a thingy in the control panel.
#3044 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - what windows?
#3045 [18:41] <aljorub> 7
#3046 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#3047 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> look for .minecraft, the saves will be in the saves folder inside
#3048 [18:41] <Rye> im trying to install java and it keeps saying that the thing im trying to install is not a valid win32 application.
#3049 [18:41] <Rye> what does that mean?
#3050 [18:41] <apothecary> Has anyone reported issues logging into the website? It says it doesn't recognize my username/pw, and I've doublechecked username and reset pw...
#3051 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Rye - What did you download?
#3052 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> apothecary - We've been getting a few reports of that, yes
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#3054 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> apothecary - I don't think we've come up with a solution yet. Mojang knows about it
#3055 [18:42] <Rye> http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/6u29-b11/jre-6u29-windows-ia64.exe
#3056 [18:42] <james2hot> How do I get a good java install???????????????
#3057 [18:42] <apothecary> GreyVulpine: thanks, no sweat, just wanted a sanity check, have a good one!
#3058 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Rye - That's an itanium release
#3059 [18:42] <Rye> apothecary: that happened to me just wait for an hour or so and it should let you log back in
#3060 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Rye -You want the jre-6u29-windows-x64.exe
#3061 [18:43] <Rye> ok thanks
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#3063 [18:43] <Rye> i tried that one too and it still doesnt work.
#3064 [18:43] <Rye> i got the same message
#3065 [18:43] <mib_2x9i4w> ok so i uninstall it and reinstall it?why is that so?or is it complicated to explain
#3066 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> mib_2x9i4w - Ensures a clean install of java, so that no lingering old java files are present on the computer.
#3067 [18:44] <mib_2x9i4w> oh ok
#3068 [18:45] <james2hot> How do I get a good java install???????????????
#3069 [18:45] <mib_2x9i4w> just to be sure this will fix the black screen
#3070 [18:45] <aljorub> it has said it 4 more times
#3071 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> james2hot - Shouldn't need to, unless you've got problems running java. In that case, a complete uninstall and reinstall of java will give you a good java install
#3072 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_2x9i4w - It'll fix your error message.
#3073 [18:46] <james2hot> How do you uninstall java
#3074 [18:46] <aljorub> help
#3075 [18:46] <mib_2x9i4w> ok thank you ill give you results
#3076 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> On windows, you can uninstall java through the control panel.
#3077 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Just keep trying.
#3078 [18:46] <aljorub> trying what
#3079 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> To login
#3080 [18:47] <aljorub> no i can login
#3081 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Er wait, you had the saved games thing
#3082 [18:47] <Rye> right so still not working
#3083 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Did you go to %appdata% via your start menu's search bar?
#3084 [18:47] <aljorub> the minecraft server says cant keep up has the system time changed
#3085 [18:47] <aljorub> yes
#3086 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Alright.. were you able to connect to your server using "localhost" in your minecraft?
#3087 [18:48] <aljorub> havnt tried do i do that now
#3088 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Rye - Are you running a 64 bit windows?
#3089 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Yes
#3090 [18:48] <Rye> I dont know.
#3091 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Rye - Hmm, then try downloading jre-6u29-windows-i586.exe from the website
#3092 [18:48] <aljorub> what do i do
#3093 [18:48] <aljorub> to add localhost
#3094 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Got multiplayer up? Go to direct connect, then put in localhost and connect
#3095 [18:49] <aljorub> do i need the server program open
#3096 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3097 [18:50] <Rye> i tried that it downloaded but the game still doesnt run.
#3098 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Did you run the java program after downloading it?
#3099 [18:50] <aljorub> it says ther server responded with a invalid key
#3100 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Known problem with the server, just keep trying
#3101 [18:51] <aljorub> ok
#3102 [18:51] <Rye> yup
#3103 [18:52] <aljorub> it worked
#3104 [18:52] <aljorub> how do people join
#3105 [18:52] <Rye> im running trial and error with the different javas on that site
#3106 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - That's a little harder.
#3107 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - You'll need to look up how to port forward. Http://www.portforward.com has a good how-to on that, with listings for the hundreds of routers out there.
#3108 [18:53] <aljorub> ok thanx
#3109 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - After that, you'll need to advertise your server, or give out your public ip address so that people know how to join. To get your public IP address, you can use www.whatismyip.com
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#3111 [18:55] <aljorub> thankyou
#3112 [18:55] <aljorub> were can i advitize it
#3113 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#3114 [18:56] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3115 [18:56] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#3116 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> Try those sites
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#3118 [18:57] <aljorub> thanx
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#3120 [18:59] <aljorub> there are zombies on piecfull
#3121 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> You need to configure difficulty through the server's server.properties file. the difficulty setting through the client doesn't apply in MP
#3122 [19:01] <aljorub> and when remove a block it comes back
#3123 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Move away from spawn
#3124 [19:01] <aljorub> ok
#3125 [19:02] <aljorub> it worked
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#3128 [19:12] <aljorub> am i aloud to upload a image of my area and post to see what you think
#3129 [19:14] <aljorub> help minecraft has crashed
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#3131 [19:15] <blaphmat> HI...just got mincraft, dowloaded 270kb file. Is that it? Expected an installation of some sort....
#3132 [19:15] <blaphmat> HI...just got mincraft, dowloaded 270kb file. Is that it? Expected an installation of some sort....
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#3134 [19:17] <aljorub> can i have help please
#3135 [19:17] <clarjon1> blaphmat: that's the launcher
#3136 [19:18] <clarjon1> blaphmat: run the launcher, enter your login details, and it'll grab the other few megabytes of the game.
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#3138 [19:18] <blaphmat> and it goes to the launchers location? So that is it then?
#3139 [19:19] <aljorub> help
#3140 [19:19] <MrLlende> Really want to play but I can't seem to get the pay to work. I got the Debit/Credit Disabled message.
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#3142 [19:21] <blaphmat> One last thing then, how do I get it to update. It still says 1.0.0. I should mention its been about an hour since I paid for it.
#3143 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> blaphmat - That is the latest version
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#3145 [19:22] <blaphmat> So no standalone?
#3146 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> MrLlende - You may need to try another payment provider, or call your bank up to see if they're blocking the transaction
#3147 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> blaphmat - I don't understand the question
#3148 [19:22] <aljorub> greyvulpine can i have help
#3149 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - With?
#3150 [19:22] <aljorub> i have a error message when i open minecraft
#3151 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Could you share that error message via www.pastebin.com, submit it, and give us the URL to it so that we may read it?
#3152 [19:23] <aljorub> ok will it be fixed i am upset
#3153 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - We would need to see the error before we know what is wrong.
#3154 [19:23] <blaphmat> Hard to explain I guess. I don't need to do anything further? I use the launcher to start the game every time?
#3155 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> blaphmat - Yes.
#3156 [19:24] <blaphmat> Ok, thank you! Take care.
#3157 [19:24] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#3157 [19:24] <aljorub> http://pastebin.com/9PGKEY6e
#3158 [19:25] <MrLlende> Grey ... Do people who also have my problem report any fixes? Visa shouldn't be that much of a pain. :/
#3159 [19:25] <aljorub> is it bad
#3160 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> MrLlende - Either by going to a different payment solution like Paypal, trying a different card, or calling up the bank/credit card to see if there's any blocks on international transactions.
#3161 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Hmm. it didn't do this before?
#3162 [19:26] <aljorub> no
#3163 [19:26] <aljorub> is it bad
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#3165 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Try closing minecraft, launch it again, and go to the options menu before you log in. Then hit "Force Update".
#3166 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> Log in as normal
#3167 [19:27] <Richy> k guys got an error report
#3168 [19:27] <aljorub> ok
#3169 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> Richy - www.pastebin.com it please.
#3170 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> Richy - Give us the URL once you submit it
#3171 [19:27] <Richy> http://mibpaste.com/Zosjdz straight from the mineraft crash screen
#3172 [19:27] <Richy> i know
#3173 [19:27] <Richy> oh hi grey
#3174 [19:28] <aljorub> it comes up with this thing faild o launch
#3175 [19:28] <Richy> oh
#3176 [19:28] <Richy> http://mibpaste.com/TRhyLQ
#3177 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - What does the full error say?
#3178 [19:28] <Richy> greyvulpine your minecraft with lower momory requirements really helped
#3179 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> Richy - Did you install any mods?
#3180 [19:28] <Richy> yeah
#3181 [19:29] <Richy> here ill try it again
#3182 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> I think one or more of those mods is causing problems
#3183 [19:29] <aljorub> its to long so it goes of the page
#3184 [19:29] <Richy> yeah and you wanna know somethin funny
#3185 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Any way you can copy that error, pastebin it?
#3186 [19:29] <aljorub> i will try some
#3187 [19:30] <MrLlende> Appreciate it ... I'll give PayPal a try.
#3188 [19:30] <Richy> grey turns out my patcher had a memory requirements box....
#3189 [19:30] <Richy> but the one u gave me is still awesome cause it launches a command prompt
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#3191 [19:31] <Richy> that shw wat its doin like "texturing pig" and if it closes so does mineraft
#3192 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Richy - Heh...
#3193 [19:31] <Richy> *shows
#3194 [19:31] <meeeee> hey wug you there
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#3196 [19:31] <Richy> so if mineraft is not responding i just close the command prompt
#3197 [19:31] <aljorub> http://pastebin.com/92ggEjUZ
#3198 [19:31] <Richy> and it closes wihtout delay\
#3199 [19:32] <Richy> crap blackscreen
#3200 [19:32] <aljorub> do you think it will be ok
#3201 [19:33] <Richy> so its like an error report as the error happens
#3202 [19:33] <meeeee> is wug there
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#3205 [19:34] <Richy> ill ping him
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#3207 [19:34] <Richy> wug wug wug
#3208 [19:34] <Richy> wug
#3209 [19:34] <Richy> wug
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#3211 [19:34] <Richy> ...
#3212 [19:34] <meeeee> rRchy what are you doing
#3213 [19:34] <Richy> if hes there heel get that
#3214 [19:34] <meeeee> Richy
#3215 [19:34] <meeeee> oh
#3216 [19:35] <Richy> 3
#3217 [19:35] <Richy> 2
#3218 [19:35] <Richy> 1
#3219 [19:35] <aljorub> greyvulpine what does it mean
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#3221 [19:35] <meeeee> yeah no
#3222 [19:35] <Richy> can u hear this say richy1
#3223 [19:35] <meeeee> hear what
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#3225 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Don't have any other copies of minecraft running when you press 'force update'
#3226 [19:36] <aljorub> no
#3227 [19:36] <aljorub> it is since the server
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#3229 [19:36] <aljorub> deleted
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#3231 [19:36] <aljorub> wich i
#3232 [19:37] <one4one> I have a problem logging in to the minecraft website but I can log in to the game in the app. I'm runing OS X lion. Anyone know why?
#3233 [19:37] <aljorub> will it work agian
#3234 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> one4one - Pretty common issue, just keep trying. Mojang has been informed of it
#3235 [19:37] <MrLlende> Grey .. just wanted to report back for future reference ... The PayPal route worked like a charm.
#3236 [19:37] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#3236 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> Appreciate the feedback
#3237 [19:37] <MrLlende> Thanks a mill.
#3238 [19:37] <MrLlende> No problem.
#3239 [19:37] <meeeee> please sombody get wug
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#3241 [19:38] <one4one> @GreyVulpine - thanks
#3242 [19:38] <aljorub> greyvulpine what do i do
#3243 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - close down minecraft. Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#3244 [19:38] <aljorub> ok
#3245 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder. Go inside. Delete the /bin/ and /resource/ folders
#3246 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Relaunch minecraft and log back in. It should redownload all the files again
#3247 [19:39] <aljorub> will i have my saves
#3248 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> As long as you don't delete the saves folder, you'll still have your saves
#3249 [19:40] <meeeee> please sombody get wug
#3250 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> I don't think Wug's around right now
#3251 [19:40] <meeeee> when do you think he will be on
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#3253 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> I couldn't tell you. We're all volunteers here, we come here on our free time. We don't keep set hours
#3254 [19:41] <meeeee> oh
#3255 [19:41] <aljorub> i have loged in it updated went black and went to that message say minecraft has crashed
#3256 [19:42] <mib_rvdwuy> can somebody help please... im having mod issues
#3257 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> We don't assist with mod issues here. Try asking where you got the mod from.
#3258 [19:42] <mib_rvdwuy> last time i came here they helped
#3259 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Could you do a complete uninstall and reinstall of java?
#3260 [19:42] <aljorub> i have wasted £14
#3261 [19:43] <aljorub> ok how do i do that
#3262 [19:43] <meeeee> no cause i saw someone here earlier and the people herehelped
#3263 [19:43] <meeeee> *here helped*
#3264 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Well then, you may need to wait around to see if anybody's willing to help.
#3265 [19:43] <mib_rvdwuy> ok sorry
#3266 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> The general policy of this channel is that we don't force anybody here to help with mods. Too many mods out there for just a single person to know thousands of different mods, and how they can all interact.
#3267 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Just way too much of a headache to handle mods.
#3268 [19:44] <mib_rvdwuy> ok ok ok!
#3269 [19:44] <mib_rvdwuy> ill leave
#3270 [19:45] <aljorub> do i uninstall update 17 ore 23
#3271 [19:45] <aljorub> do i uninstall update 17 ore 23
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#3273 [19:45] <aljorub> 13 or 27
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#3275 [19:45] <NOMNOM> Hi
#3276 [19:45] <aljorub> sorry
#3277 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Yes. All java. You can reinstall java again from java.com
#3278 [19:45] <meeeee> greyvulpine how do you volunteer to help
#3279 [19:45] <meeeee> greyvulpine how do you volunteer to help
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#3281 [19:45] <NOMNOM> anyoe know if you can make a chicked grow fatser?
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#3283 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> I just hop on whenever I have free time, and assist others.
#3284 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> NOMNOM - Can't say I know of any.
#3285 [19:46] <aljorub> what java do i need
#3286 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Just the latest Java 6 from java.com will do fine.
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#3288 [19:47] <meeeee> ok so do you have to create an account or something
#3289 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Not really, no.
#3290 [19:47] <meeeee> ok
#3291 [19:48] <aljorub> i have download it
#3292 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - If you've already uninstalled all java from your system, reinstall java using that download, then run minecraft again
#3293 [19:48] <mib_px7qyk> does anyone know of a chat site like this where i can ask for help about mods
#3294 [19:48] <mib_px7qyk> for minecraft
#3295 [19:49] <aljorub> minecraft still dont work
#3296 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_px7qyk - The general consensus is that you should exhaust all possible options with google as well as where you got the mod from, before hitting up a mod IRC channel
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#3299 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Depending on the mod, you may need to go to that specific channel that supports that mod
#3300 [19:49] <mib_px7qyk> if you say so
#3301 [19:50] <aljorub> so its broke
#3302 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Broke how?
#3303 [19:50] <aljorub> it comes up with the crashed message agian
#3304 [19:51] <Saterius> aljorub: what about java update
#3305 [19:51] <aljorub> i have
#3306 [19:52] <Saterius> aljorub: oh
#3307 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> Could you try a reboot of your computer, then try minecraft?
#3308 [19:52] <Saterius> Yeah
#3309 [19:52] <aljorub> ok then i will come of the irc
#3310 [19:52] <aljorub> will you wait fore me
#3311 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> #minecrafthelp will be here
#3312 [19:53] <aljorub> ok i am doing it now
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#3317 [19:58] <aljorub> greyvulpine you are the best
#3318 [19:58] <aljorub> it worked
#3319 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> \o/
#3320 [20:00] <aljorub> i am so happy
#3321 [20:00] <TheNytangel> He also helped me build a computer over skype ;)
#3322 [20:00] <aljorub> really
#3323 [20:00] <stomper> I just purchased the minecraft and when i put in my user name etc. it says im not a premium user I just paid $26 I have windows xp i though it would be simple just press download and that would be it?
#3324 [20:00] <TheNytangel> Really
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#3326 [20:01] <aljorub> cool
#3327 [20:01] <TheNytangel> stomper, the payment can take up to 3 days to go through
#3328 [20:01] <aljorub> myn was instant
#3329 [20:01] <stomper> it said payment complete
#3330 [20:02] <aljorub> yes it has to go threw
#3331 [20:03] <aljorub> greyvulpine is this good for minecraft intel quadcore 15 and 16 gb of ram
#3332 [20:03] <aljorub> i5
#3333 [20:04] <aljorub> i am geting it in a month
#3334 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Yes, and then some.
#3335 [20:04] <aljorub> some what
#3336 [20:04] <stomper> whats a premium user
#3337 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> It would be good enough to run several minecrafts, at once..
#3338 [20:04] <aljorub> cool
#3339 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> A premium user is one that has paid for a minecraft account
#3340 [20:05] <aljorub> do you think i will be able to build it fore £500
#3341 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Doubtful.
#3342 [20:06] <aljorub> £600
#3343 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> You'd have to scrimp on other necessary components of the build, like a decent video card
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#3345 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> 600 pounds, perhaps. Depends on where you're getting your components from
#3346 [20:06] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, could a.. 6 core with 16 GB of RAM run several minecrafts at once?
#3347 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Don't see why not.
#3348 [20:07] <aljorub> what if i have 8gb of ram inted of 16 and i use my hardrive i am using now
#3349 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, then you could probably build a system with 8 gb of RAM for 500-600 pounds
#3350 [20:08] <aljorub> with i5
#3351 [20:08] * GreyVulpine nods
#3351 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> i5s are pretty cheap, compared to i7s
#3352 [20:08] <aljorub> is 8gb of ram good
#3353 [20:09] <TheNytangel> Pfft, $1500 down the drain ftw
#3354 [20:09] <aljorub> why is that
#3355 [20:09] <TheNytangel> aljorub, I probably spent that, and then some, on the computer GreyVulpine helped me build
#3356 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - $1500 is about 900 pounds, but you have a computer that rivals the i5.
#3357 [20:09] <aljorub> so £600 is good
#3358 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> It's.. decent
#3359 [20:10] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, but it's a god computer :P
#3360 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Indeed TheNytangel.
#3361 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Sure, you're not going to do 5 displays at once, but it's still a good computer
#3362 [20:10] <aljorub> is there anything i will be able to use on my old pc
#3363 [20:10] <TheNytangel> I entered for a chance to win the 8 core processor or a gaming motherboard
#3364 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - All depends on what components your old PC has.
#3365 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, you can be assured you can salvage the keyboard/mouse, hard drive and cd/dvd drive.
#3366 [20:11] <aljorub> can i use the dvdr
#3367 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Everything else, is a tossup on how old the old pc really is.
#3368 [20:12] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, http://goo.gl/wLnMA ;)
#3369 [20:12] <aljorub> all that minus a hardrive how much do you think the rest will cost
#3370 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> Again. Depends, aljorub. How good of a computer do you want? How long do you expect it to last?
#3371 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> Do you need a monitor? Do you expect to do high-performance gaming on it for the foreseeable future?
#3372 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> How future proof do you want your computer to be?
#3373 [20:13] <TheNytangel> Do you want your fans to glow blue?
#3374 [20:13] * GreyVulpine snrks
#3374 [20:13] <TheNytangel> :P
#3375 [20:13] <aljorub> 4 years heavy usage about 20 hours only gaming is minecraft and some video edting
#3376 [20:14] <aljorub> is that ok
#3377 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> Define "Video editing"
#3378 [20:14] <aljorub> hd youtube vids and minecraft
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#3380 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft, honestly, doesn't take that great of a computer to run. What you're looking for then, is just a mid-range computer. No fancy SLI/dual video card setup. Nothing in the enthusiast range. 500-600 pounds will likely get you a decent mid-grade computer
#3381 [20:15] <TheNytangel> *cough*
#3382 [20:16] <aljorub> thanx
#3383 [20:16] <aljorub> amd or intel
#3384 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't really matter either way. AMD's a bit cheaper.
#3385 [20:17] * GreyVulpine is an Intel fan himself
#3385 [20:17] <Wug> for a budget minecraft machine, I'd go amd
#3386 [20:17] <|Kiikun|School|> :mclol
#3387 [20:17] <WugBot> mclol: http://wug.me/minecraft/mclol.png
#3388 [20:17] <aljorub> i am making my own
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#3390 [20:17] <Wug> though I prefer intel myself as well.
#3391 [20:17] <aljorub> budget
#3392 [20:17] <dude> I'm having trouble installing Mo Creatures mod.
#3393 [20:17] <|Kiikun|School|> intel last longer.. my one AMD went and burned up.
#3394 [20:17] <aljorub> were i am from £600 is a lot of money
#3395 [20:17] <Richy> dude wats wrong?
#3396 [20:17] <Richy> i had that mod so
#3397 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> mo creatures hasn't been updated for 1.0.0 yet
#3398 [20:17] <Wug> Keep in mind that a "budget" computer won't stay on top of modern games probably for longer than 2 years
#3399 [20:18] <Wug> dude: wait for it to update
#3400 [20:18] <dude> I'm getting the black screen of death or just a frozen loading screen.
#3401 [20:18] <Wug> aljorub: 600 is a decent sum anywhere
#3402 [20:18] <|Kiikun|School|> :pastebin
#3403 [20:18] <WugBot> pastebin: Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#3404 [20:18] * |Kiikun|School| is lazy
#3404 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Again. Mo creatures hasn't been updated since 1.8.1. You need to uninstall the mod and wait for the mod's creator to update it
#3405 [20:18] <Wug> it equates to something like $800 or $850 iirc
#3406 [20:19] <Wug> that being said, I spent more than that on my desktop because I wanted it to last a while
#3407 [20:19] <Wug> Ended up spending like $1300 on it or so
#3408 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> Heh, I spent a little over a grand on my gaming rig, has lasted me over 4 years now
#3409 [20:19] <Wug> GreyVulpine: what does it have for a processor
#3410 [20:19] <TheNytangel> Mines lasted me a couple weeks so far :)
#3411 [20:19] <aljorub> every one says to be a geek you have to have the best pc
#3412 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's gotten pretty dated, but man, it's been a beast
#3413 [20:19] <TheNytangel> Mine's*
#3414 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> Core2duo, E6750
#3415 [20:20] <Wug> <meeeee> please sombody get wug
#3416 [20:20] <Wug> for the record, the answer to this question is "he's not here"
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#3418 [20:20] <Wug> always -.-
#3419 [20:20] <|Kiikun|School|> my desktop at home was about 1300USD. lasted since 2008 :P
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#3421 [20:20] <TheNytangel> I have a 120 point english assignment due tomorrow and haven't even started yet...
#3422 [20:20] <aljorub> :(
#3423 [20:20] * GreyVulpine kicks TheNytangel
#3423 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Don't make me set a +b on this channel for you!
#3424 [20:20] * |Kiikun|School| <-- http://pastebin.com/aUdHaUnu
#3424 [20:21] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, I wasn't asking for help this time!
#3425 [20:21] <dude> Richy: I'm getting a frozen loading screen or black screen after I installed Mo Creatures mod.
#3426 [20:21] <aljorub> i am upset
#3427 [20:21] <Wug> TheNytangel: I'll help you whether you ask or not
#3428 [20:21] <TheNytangel> Wug, you can't
#3429 [20:21] <Wug> because I'm such a nice person
#3430 [20:21] <dude> GreyVulpine: are you sure, cause I had it working last saturday
#3431 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> dude - Do a Force update through the launcher's options menu
#3432 [20:21] <TheNytangel> Unless you have read the book I'm doing the report on
#3433 [20:22] <Wug> dude: minecraft has updated since then I think
#3434 [20:22] <Wug> TheNytangel: I mean I'll ban you
#3435 [20:22] <Wug> ;D
#3436 [20:22] <dude> Wug: I see. So 1.0 is literally days old?
#3437 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> dude - Yes
#3438 [20:23] <Wug> dude: do you not remember updating?
#3439 [20:23] <dude> that makes sense then. I'll have to wait untill mo creatures mod is updated then.
#3440 [20:23] <aljorub> 1.0 is buggy
#3441 [20:23] <Wug> I don't have any issues with it
#3442 [20:23] <dude> wug: no, I'm actually helping a friend with this
#3443 [20:23] <Wug> apart from the fact that it runs rather poorly on my laptop
#3444 [20:23] <Wug> doesn't do well on 32 bit computers -.-
#3445 [20:23] <aljorub> i have not animals at all on the game
#3446 [20:23] <aljorub> everything goes black
#3447 [20:24] <aljorub> and water doesnt flow proppaly
#3448 [20:24] <aljorub> and my respawn dont work
#3449 [20:24] <aljorub> it spawns me at a random place every time
#3450 [20:25] <aljorub> dont no why
#3451 [20:25] <Wug> aljorub: is this on a server?
#3452 [20:25] <TheNytangel> http://pastebin.com/bd0SvSGC
#3453 [20:25] <aljorub> no single player
#3454 [20:25] <Wug> make a new world to test it
#3455 [20:25] <Wug> old worlds might misbehave for some reason
#3456 [20:26] <aljorub> its ok on other
#3457 [20:26] <Wug> if its ok on other worlds then there's something wrong with the world
#3458 [20:26] <aljorub> i no
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#3460 [20:27] <aljorub> its bad i dont evan have enderman and easy is the same as hard
#3461 [20:27] <LegendaryWorld> My minecraft keeps crashing
#3462 [20:27] <TheNytangel> Don't worry GreyVulpine, I got the DVI cord from my dad's last weekend
#3463 [20:27] <TheNytangel> Now I'm not using the DVI to VGA thing
#3464 [20:28] <Wug> I made a funny
#3465 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Yay
#3466 [20:28] <Wug> ;cycle
#3467 [20:28] <Wug> ;cycle
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#3470 [20:28] <Wug> ;bycicle
#3471 [20:28] <Wug> ;bycicle
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#3476 [20:28] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#3476 [20:28] <Wug> teehee
#3477 [20:28] <|Kiikun|School|> lol
#3478 [20:28] <aljorub> one good thing my mines are weird every one has gold iron readstone coal and dimond all over i have 64 dimonds from 2 weeks
#3479 [20:28] <Wug> ;alias delete bycicle
#3480 [20:28] <WugBot> Alias bycicle has been removed.
#3481 [20:28] <TheNytangel> Wug, you spelt it wrong too...
#3482 [20:29] <Wug> guess I did. oh well
#3483 [20:29] <Wug> bicycle, isnt it
#3484 [20:29] * Wug is listening to something lulzy
#3484 [20:29] <dude> when exactly did 1.0 come out?
#3485 [20:29] <Wug> its totally nsfw but I think its funny
#3486 [20:29] <Wug> dude: the 18th
#3487 [20:29] <aljorub> 8gb of ram £50 is that good
#3488 [20:30] <Wug> aljorub: thats good
#3489 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> 1.0.0 came out on Friday/saturday?
#3490 [20:31] <dude> strange, cause saturday was when I installed the mod, but my friend prolly updated after
#3491 [20:31] <aljorub> case £20
#3492 [20:31] <Wug> the ram I got for my computer has come down by like $80
#3493 [20:31] <Wug> kind of ridiculous
#3494 [20:31] <Wug> more than 50%
#3495 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> RAM has gotten uber cheap
#3496 [20:31] <aljorub> is £20 good for a case
#3497 [20:31] <Wug> on the other hand, its now $60, so I can grab another one
#3498 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> aljorub - Size? Does it come with or without a power supply?
#3499 [20:32] <aljorub> no power
#3500 [20:32] <aljorub> 185(W) x 475(D) x 408(H) mm
#3501 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Maybe better if you gave us a link to the case in question?
#3502 [20:33] <aljorub> this is a diffrent one http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/antec-vsk1000-s-ym-case-10934155-pdt.html
#3503 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Antec cases have been known to be sturdy and reliable. It's one of the few brands I'll recommend
#3504 [20:35] <aljorub> thanx if i post the parts will you tell me if they are good
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#3506 [20:36] <Wug> I'll provide opinion based commentary
#3507 [20:36] <aljorub> ok thanx
#3508 [20:38] <aljorub> http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/o/initOrder/basket-confirmation.html?subaction=initOrder
#3509 [20:39] <aljorub> is the link ok
#3510 [20:39] <Wug> you have to link to each part, you cant just link to your cart
#3511 [20:39] <aljorub> ok
#3512 [20:40] <aljorub> the prossesor http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/intel-core-i5-670-processor-07908321-pdt.html
#3513 [20:40] <sockmister> Did not install mods or texture packs, but black screen flashes and Minecraft disappears.
#3514 [20:40] <aljorub> ram http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/kingston-hyperx-t1-ddr3-desktop-memory-8gb-dimm-ram-10849459-pdt.html
#3515 [20:40] <aljorub> mother board http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/asus-p8z68-v-lx-intel-z68-atx-motherboard-lga1155-socket-11284272-pdt.html
#3516 [20:41] <aljorub> graphics card http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/asus-ati-hd-entertainment-eah6670-dis-1gd5-pci-e-2-1-graphics-card-1gb-10938437-pdt.html
#3517 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> lga1155 socket with a 1156 CPU..
#3518 [20:41] <Wug> hmm, that wont work now will it
#3519 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe so
#3520 [20:41] <Wug> 1155 I believe is the 2nd gen one
#3521 [20:42] <aljorub> so what changes do i need
#3522 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Either need to look for a new motherboard, or a new CPU
#3523 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> What you have right now, is not compatible
#3524 [20:42] <aljorub> what do you think
#3525 [20:43] <aljorub> wich one do i need more
#3526 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> If you want the core i5, you'll need to look for a new motherboard, one that has a 1156 socket, instead of the lga1155
#3527 [20:43] <Wug> 1155 is second gen
#3528 [20:43] <Wug> GreyVulpine: or get a second gen i5
#3529 [20:43] * GreyVulpine nods
#3529 [20:43] <Wug> such as:
#3530 [20:43] <Wug> http://ark.intel.com/products/52210/Intel-Core-i5-2500K-Processor-(6M-Cache-3_30-GHz)
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#3532 [20:43] <Wug> (copy the whole link)
#3533 [20:43] <aljorub> is that goos
#3534 [20:43] <aljorub> good
#3535 [20:44] <Wug> its better than the one you're getting
#3536 [20:44] <Wug> might be a bit more expensive though
#3537 [20:45] <Wug> it actually appears to be cheaper
#3538 [20:45] <Wug> by maybe 50 or 60 pounds
#3539 [20:45] <aljorub> cool
#3540 [20:45] <Wug> type a pound symbol for me :P
#3541 [20:45] <aljorub> why is that
#3542 [20:45] <aljorub> £
#3543 [20:45] <Wug> ;+ pound �
#3544 [20:45] <WugBot> Done.
#3545 [20:45] <nomisaur> hey i have a problem... ever since the 1.0.0 update after about an hour of playing my screen freezes up and it says it has run out of memory ivve been running off the browser how can i fix this???
#3546 [20:45] <Wug> nomisaur: do you have a 64 bit computer?
#3547 [20:46] <Zimsky> Get more ram
#3548 [20:46] * Wug punts Zimsky
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#3549 [20:46] * Zimsky explodes
#3549 [20:46] <nomisaur> lol i have a shitty laptop with not alota ram
#3550 [20:46] <Wug> more ram won't help if you're on a 32 bit computer
#3551 [20:46] <Zimsky> ^
#3552 [20:46] <Skyshark> Yo, do splash potions effect people or just mobs?
#3553 [20:46] <nomisaur> i tink im on a 32
#3554 [20:46] <sockmister> Did not install mods or texture packs, but black screen flashes and Minecraft disappears.
#3555 [20:47] <nomisaur> well is tht the only way? getting a better system to run it?
#3556 [20:47] <Wug> nomisaur: if you're on a 32 bit laptop there probably isnt much you can do
#3557 [20:47] <nomisaur> so im SOL?
#3558 [20:47] <Wug> probably :P
#3559 [20:47] <Skyshark> Anybody?
#3560 [20:47] <Wug> it might get optimized in future versions
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#3562 [20:47] <nomisaur> fuuuuuuk well thnx for the help anyway
#3563 [20:47] <Wug> Skyshark: I'm not sure, check the wiki maybe?
#3564 [20:47] <Wug> :wiki
#3565 [20:47] <WugBot> wiki: Minecraft Wiki: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
#3566 [20:47] <aljorub> i can get it fore £159.67
#3567 [20:47] <Skyshark> Doesn't say
#3568 [20:48] <Wug> Skyshark: do some science then
#3569 [20:48] <mib_bxo8ui> Whenever I am setting up Minecraft it says I have to update my drivers and I do but it is still saying that, please help.
#3570 [20:48] <aljorub> is the motherboard and graphics good
#3571 [20:48] <Skyshark> I thought this was a channel in which people would do so much as lift their finger in order to answer someone's question
#3572 [20:48] <Skyshark> Sorry, guess I was mistaken :)
#3573 [20:48] <Skyshark> Sorry, guess I was mistaken :)
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#3575 [20:49] <mib_bxo8ui> Help?
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#3578 [20:50] <aljorub> is it good wug
#3579 [20:50] <aljorub> the motherboard and graphics and the cpu you said (wug)
#3580 [20:51] <sockmister> Did not install mods or texture packs, but black screen flashes and Minecraft disappears.
#3581 [20:51] <aljorub> are you there wug
#3582 [20:52] <Wug> hang on, I've been looking in other channels
#3583 [20:52] <aljorub> sorry wug
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#3585 [20:54] <Wug> aljorub: they look fine
#3586 [20:54] <stomper> can i download minecraft to a flash drive
#3587 [20:54] <aljorub> can they handle some gaming
#3588 [20:54] <Wug> pcie graphics card, pcie motherboard with 1155 socket, socket 1155 cpu
#3589 [20:55] <Wug> they should perform reasonably well
#3590 [20:55] <Wug> should handle minecraft no problem
#3591 [20:55] <Wug> you might not be able to play other more graphically intensive games with the settings maxed
#3592 [20:55] <aljorub> what about middle
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#3596 [20:58] <aljorub> is it a good upgrade from pentuim dual core 2gb of ram and g41 express chipset
#3597 [20:58] <Wug> yes
#3598 [20:59] <aljorub> i can do i all for
#3599 [20:59] <aljorub> £414
#3600 [20:59] <aljorub> is that good
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#3604 [21:01] <aljorub> wug
#3605 [21:02] <Wug> its a decent build, yes
#3606 [21:02] <Wug> do you have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc?
#3607 [21:02] <Wug> you will need them
#3608 [21:02] <aljorub> i have it
#3609 [21:02] <Wug> ok then
#3610 [21:03] <Wug> I have to go, I'll be back on later
#3611 [21:03] <aljorub> what upgrade good i do but only £500
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#3613 [21:04] <stomper> hey do any of you know if i can download minecraft to a flashdrive
#3614 [21:05] <Wug> stomper: yeah, you can. It will only work on windows though.
#3615 [21:05] <stomper> oh good thanks
#3616 [21:05] <aljorub> wug
#3617 [21:06] <Wug> aljorub: it looks ok
#3618 [21:06] <Wug> what are you getting for a hard drive
#3619 [21:06] <Wug> they're really expensive lately :P
#3620 [21:06] <aljorub> i am uding my old one as it has windows 7
#3621 [21:06] <Wug> ok
#3622 [21:06] <Wug> I have to go.
#3623 [21:06] <aljorub> what upgrade could i do to make it 500
#3624 [21:06] <Wug> Kealper:
#3625 [21:06] <aljorub> ok by
#3626 [21:07] <Wug> protip, the point is to make it cost less, not more ;D
#3627 [21:07] <aljorub> thanx for the tip
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#3629 [21:10] <aljorub> will it be able to play sims 3
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#3631 [21:14] <mib_v5uldl> hey i cant seem to sign into my account i know i have the information right but it still wont work help please
#3632 [21:14] <aljorub> what does it say
#3633 [21:14] <mib_v5uldl> oops, uknown username or password.
#3634 [21:15] <aljorub> have you checked it correct
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#3636 [21:15] <mib_v5uldl> ive checked the username twice now and reset the password and no dice
#3637 [21:16] <aljorub> try login to minecraft.net
#3638 [21:17] <mib_v5uldl> thanks that worked for some reason also is there anyway to redownload the game
#3639 [21:17] <aljorub> yes have you got any saves
#3640 [21:18] <mib_v5uldl> no im on a different computer on vacation trying to play it on this one
#3641 [21:18] <aljorub> i will post the link
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#3643 [21:19] <aljorub> mac or windows
#3644 [21:19] <mib_v5uldl> windows
#3645 [21:19] <aljorub> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#3646 [21:19] <aljorub> try that
#3647 [21:20] <BigF219> How can I upgrade from 1.0.0 to 1.9 pre 5?
#3648 [21:20] <Kealper> BigF219: 1.0.0 is the latest
#3649 [21:20] <aljorub> 1.9 was a bata
#3650 [21:20] <Kealper> BigF219: the 1.9 pres turned in to 1.0 when Minecraft came out of beta
#3651 [21:21] <BigF219> so 1.9 pre mods will work with 1.0.0?
#3652 [21:21] <Kealper> no
#3653 [21:21] <Kealper> you've got to wait for those mods to be updated to 1.0.0
#3654 [21:21] <aljorub> some will
#3655 [21:21] <aljorub> i have used one it worked
#3656 [21:21] <mib_v5uldl> uh oh ok how do i update video card drivers?
#3657 [21:21] <BigF219> then is it possible to downgrade?
#3658 [21:22] <aljorub> yes
#3659 [21:22] <Kealper> BigF219: not unless you saved the .jar... because you won't find it in here
#3660 [21:22] <BigF219> okay thanks
#3661 [21:22] <Kealper> mib_v5uldl: do you know what video card you have?
#3662 [21:22] <mib_v5uldl> nope
#3663 [21:22] <Kealper> ok then, follow the instructions that VoxelHead is about to tell you
#3664 [21:22] <Kealper> ??> mib_v5uldl win/dxdiag
#3665 [21:22] <VoxelHead> mib_v5uldl: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3666 [21:23] <mib_v5uldl> k
#3667 [21:23] <VoxelHead> mib_v5uldl: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
#3668 [21:23] <Kealper> or not
#3669 [21:23] <Kealper> voxelhead seems to be broken
#3670 [21:23] <aljorub> shell i tell
#3671 [21:23] <Kealper> ok, hold down the windows key (looks like a little flag thing) and press the R key, and then release both
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#3673 [21:23] <Kealper> that should bring up something called Run
#3674 [21:23] <mib_v5uldl> k
#3675 [21:24] <Kealper> inside that, type in "dxdiag" without the quotes and press the enter key
#3676 [21:24] <aljorub> how do you become voice
#3677 [21:24] <mib_v5uldl> k did that
#3678 [21:24] <Kealper> aljorub: generally by proving that you are an able helper... it doesn't just happen overnight though
#3679 [21:24] <charles09> I just purchased minecraft and I want to play mulitplayer and it asks for a serve address or something what do I write
#3680 [21:25] <aljorub> i no
#3681 [21:25] <Kealper> mib_v5uldl: ok then, did it ask you if you wanted to check for WHQL signed drivers or something to that effect?
#3682 [21:25] <aljorub> so its the same as geekshed
#3683 [21:25] <Kealper> charles09: well, that depends really lol
#3684 [21:25] <mib_v5uldl> yep i hit yes now im at directx diagnostic tool
#3685 [21:26] <Kealper> charles09: i would suggest asking around inside the channel #smp (type /join #smp)
#3686 [21:26] <aljorub> when i am starting to play minecraft classic i get this error message
#3687 [21:26] <mib_v5uldl> now what
#3688 [21:26] <Kealper> mib_v5uldl: ok, click the Save all information button at the bottom, save it to a text file where you will be able to find it
#3689 [21:27] <mib_v5uldl> k done
#3690 [21:27] <Kealper> mib_v5uldl: then open that file up and select everything in there and copy it... don't paste it anywhere yet, just tell me when you've done that
#3691 [21:29] <mib_v5uldl> k now what
#3692 [21:29] <aljorub> http://pastebin.com/
#3693 [21:30] <aljorub> http://pastebin.com/hP7h9GVq
#3694 [21:30] <Kealper> mib_v5uldl: paste it on that site that aljorub just said, and click Submit. after doing that, copy the URL inside the top bar of your browser and give that in here
#3695 [21:30] <Kealper> or that
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#3697 [21:30] <Kealper> or not
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#3699 [21:30] <Kealper> aljorub: that's what you're getting?
#3700 [21:31] <Saterius> hello im back!
#3701 [21:31] <aljorub> yes
#3702 [21:31] <aljorub> on classic
#3703 [21:31] <Kealper> aljorub: do you have avira antivirus, and is that on Classic or normal?
#3704 [21:31] <Kealper> hmm
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#3706 [21:31] <Kealper> aljorub: tried clearing your browser cache?
#3707 [21:31] <Jouster500> hey i got a few problems
#3708 [21:31] <aljorub> yes it does it when i leave
#3709 [21:31] <Kealper> Jouster500: go on...
#3710 [21:32] <mib_v5uldl> k here http://pastebin.com/Kg3NEh02
#3711 [21:32] <Kealper> aljorub: interesting... not quite sure then :/
#3712 [21:32] <Jouster500> one i don't know about the whole server ideal... how to use and and whatnot
#3713 [21:32] <Saterius> you know on the right side well what does the blue and green avitars mean?
#3714 [21:32] <Kealper> mib_v5uldl: one moment, let me look over this and then i'll give you a link to download for drivers
#3715 [21:32] <Kealper> Jouster500: what part is confusing you?
#3716 [21:32] <mib_v5uldl> ok i will wait
#3717 [21:33] <Jouster500> everything
#3718 [21:33] <aljorub> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_163.75.html
#3719 [21:33] <aljorub> the drivers
#3720 [21:33] <lord_dread> I'm having some problems logging in. i've reset my password twice now, but when i try to use it to log in, i get a message "Ooops, unknown username or password".
#3721 [21:33] <mib_v5uldl> lol i just got done with that
#3722 [21:34] <aljorub> did i fix it
#3723 [21:34] <mib_v5uldl> aljorub are those the drivers for me
#3724 [21:34] <Kealper> aljorub: those are XP ones, not vista/7 ones that you linked :/
#3725 [21:34] <aljorub> oh
#3726 [21:34] <Kealper> mib_v5uldl: http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/38915
#3727 [21:34] <Jouster500> soooo any help yet?
#3728 [21:34] <Saterius> that happened to me once have you played the game on this computer.
#3729 [21:34] <mib_v5uldl> that it kealper
#3730 [21:35] <Jouster500> go to that site?
#3731 [21:35] <aljorub> i was close i didnt read it
#3732 [21:35] <Kealper> Jouster500: i would highly recommend having some knowledge of hosting servers on other things before attempting to set up a Minecraft server
#3733 [21:35] <Kealper> mib_v5uldl: should be
#3734 [21:35] <aljorub> there not easy
#3735 [21:35] <Jouster500> sooooo how to do i get that knowledge?
#3736 [21:35] <aljorub> google is your freind
#3737 [21:36] <Jouster500> rofl
#3738 [21:36] <Jouster500> k ill use it
#3739 [21:36] <Jouster500> next problem
#3740 [21:36] <Kealper> Jouster500: well... do you have minecraft server.exe downloaded?
#3741 [21:36] <Jouster500> yeah
#3742 [21:36] <lord_dread> Would it help if i mentioned that i can still log in to minecraft using an old client?
#3743 [21:36] <Kealper> Jouster500: did you run it?
#3744 [21:36] <Jouster500> yep
#3745 [21:36] <Saterius> lord_dread have you played mincraft on the computer your on before?
#3746 [21:36] <Kealper> Jouster500: did you try connecting to 127.0.0.1 inside Minecraft?
#3747 [21:36] <Jouster500> ???
#3748 [21:37] <Kealper> Jouster500: try that then, and make sure you have your server running or it won't work
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#3750 [21:37] <aljorub> on minecraft my spawn point is random why is that
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#3752 [21:37] <Jouster500> wait its a server thing?
#3753 [21:37] <Archness> test
#3754 [21:37] <aljorub> hi
#3755 [21:37] <Kealper> Archness: tset
#3756 [21:38] <Saterius> lord_dread so why dont you use that.
#3757 [21:38] <Archness> couple of questions, I was wondering if the invalid server key thing has been fixed?
#3758 [21:38] <Kealper> Jouster500: that 127.0.0.1 is a server IP, yes
#3759 [21:38] <aljorub> no
#3760 [21:38] <aljorub> keep trying
#3761 [21:38] <aljorub> it will work
#3762 [21:38] <Jouster500> uh god... lets see...
#3763 [21:38] <lord_dread> multiple times, i had participated in the beta. the game still works, it's the website that's giving me problems. the client i'm using to launch minecraft uses the old styl of name, without the creeper face on the A
#3764 [21:38] <Wahrheit> Archness: It's fixed in Bukkit 1.0 dev builds and will be fixed in their next RB http://clanforge.multiplay.co.uk/news/article1868.html
#3765 [21:38] <Kealper> Archness: well, are you getting it from someone else's server or your own server?
#3766 [21:39] <Jouster500> ok LETS SAY i did do that
#3767 [21:39] <Archness> I host servers for people and they are getting it/whining so it would nice to see it fixed
#3768 [21:39] <Jouster500> what would i do fro there?
#3769 [21:39] <Archness> my client doesn't want bukkit
#3770 [21:39] <Saterius> lord_dread wait sorry but are you sure your plelling the password and username right?
#3771 [21:40] <Kealper> Jouster500: but since you're saying that, it means you didn't do it, and unless you know you can connect with 127.0.0.1, it is pointless to move on to the next step... but the next step would be setting up port forwarding in your router
#3772 [21:40] <Kealper> Archness: oh, so you're a server host for someone else.. well then
#3773 [21:41] <Jouster500> ok... next thing
#3774 [21:41] <Jouster500> wait
#3775 [21:42] <Jouster500> ah!
#3776 [21:42] <lord_dread> yes, I've reset the password when it didn't work, since i figured i had forgotten it, and then did a second reset when it still didn't work incase i had entered it wrong. I am also sure the username is correct since it is the exact same as the one i have in my purchase confirmation email
#3777 [21:42] <Kealper> Archness: it happens when the server sends the wrong type of data, the client is expecting one type, but gets another and gets confused and things break, and that error is shown...
#3778 [21:42] <lord_dread> i apollogise if i seem impatient, and for the walls of text
#3779 [21:42] <Jouster500> since this is a windows 7 laptop, im still new so where exactly would i find the port adding screen?
#3780 [21:43] <Archness> Kealper: That's what I have read. I was just hoping notch would have dropped in a patch for it somewhere.
#3781 [21:43] <Kealper> Jouster500: you don't do it on the laptop, you do it through your router's configuration page, usually accessed through either http://192.168.1.1 or http://192.168.0.1
#3782 [21:44] <Saterius> lord_dresd im sorry then just keep on trying to reset your password until it works
#3783 [21:44] <Archness> My next question involved one of the servers changing spawn randomly. I rebooted it yesterday for some updates and it moved spawn
#3784 [21:44] <Kealper> Archness: i would assume they'll get a patch out as soon as they are able to, which should not be too much longer
#3785 [21:44] <Saterius> *dread*
#3786 [21:44] <mib_v5uldl> tanks for the help guys
#3787 [21:44] <lord_dread> ok
#3788 [21:44] <Kealper> mib_v5uldl: did it work?
#3789 [21:44] <lord_dread> thank you for your help
#3790 [21:44] <mib_v5uldl> thanks for the hep guys
#3791 [21:44] <Kealper> i assume that means it worked....? lol
#3792 [21:45] <Saterius> haha
#3793 [21:45] <Saterius> hehe
#3794 [21:45] <Kealper> hoho
#3795 [21:45] <Saterius> hahahahahahahaha = )
#3796 [21:45] <Kealper> they're coming to take me away haha
#3797 [21:45] <Kealper> they're coming to take me away hoho
#3798 [21:45] <Saterius> jk
#3799 [21:46] <Saterius> jk
#3800 [21:46] <Kealper> mine was a reference to a song :/
#3801 [21:46] <Jouster500> yeah neither will load
#3802 [21:47] <Kealper> Jouster500: you have the server exe running right now and you are unable to get on the server 127.0.0.1?
#3803 [21:47] <Saterius> haha *i chuckle*
#3804 [21:48] <Saterius> im new to giving help on minecraft can you give me tips Kealper?
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#3806 [21:49] <wippler> hello?
#3807 [21:49] <Jouster500> one requires username and password which i dont know why the other wont load at all
#3808 [21:49] <Saterius> heeello
#3809 [21:49] <Saterius> wwwwipplerrrr
#3810 [21:49] <wippler> I need some help
#3811 [21:49] <Saterius> with what
#3812 [21:50] <wippler> Someone used my credit card about an hour ago to buy a subscription.
#3813 [21:50] <Jouster500> ouch
#3814 [21:50] <Kealper> Jouster500: only one of those links i gave you were going to work, the one that wants the password is the one you wanted... you'll need to know the password for that in order to set up forwarding
#3815 [21:50] <Kealper> wippler: one moment
#3816 [21:50] <Jouster500> and the password is for....?
#3817 [21:50] <Kealper> Jouster500: editing your router's settings?
#3818 [21:51] <wippler> K, I'm freaking out. I'm a 36 year old single mom, I don't play video games.
#3819 [21:51] <Saterius> oh ok i dont know Kealper is gonna have to help you sorry :9
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#3821 [21:52] <Saterius> mame know your freaking out but just stay calm
#3822 [21:52] <Saterius> i dont know why i said that it just felt like something a cop would say
#3823 [21:52] <Kealper> wippler: hmm... it seems there is no easy "hey this thing happened" for this sort of situation... only thing i can say is contact your card issuer and tell them it happened, and also send an email to daniel@mojang.com and explain your case
#3824 [21:53] <wippler> ok...thanks.
#3825 [21:54] <Jouster500> ok wait
#3826 [21:54] <wippler> yes
#3827 [21:54] <Kealper> wippler: sorry i'm unable to help further, but this is a community-driven tech support, so we can't help much with account issues :/
#3828 [21:54] <Jouster500> for starters i can edit the ip from the main computor
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#3830 [21:55] <Jouster500> no password what so ever
#3831 [21:55] <Kealper> Jouster500: you got in to the router settings without a password? that's nice and secure... lol
#3832 [21:55] <Saterius> Kealper why did you un own me and plus what does that mean
#3833 [21:56] <Kealper> Saterius: it means you're using a crappy IRC client, i muted you
#3834 [21:56] <Jouster500> hey its how my parents run the family
#3835 [21:56] <mib_w062ho> I paid for the game but can't play because I keep getting this message ''error because of accelerated OpenGL mode ????
#3836 [21:56] <Saterius> what that suckes ok just wait a minute if i can make it better
#3837 [21:57] <Jouster500> ok kealper
#3838 [21:57] <Jouster500> before i do anything i might do to scramble our internet by accident...
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#3840 [21:58] <Jouster500> this ip adress will grant me access to all minecraft serves correct?
#3841 [21:58] <Saterius> hay Kealper did that make it better
#3842 [21:58] <Kealper> Jouster500: no
#3843 [21:58] <aljorub> my house got damdge but i have a coppy off the old save will it work
#3844 [21:59] <Jouster500> then whats the ip adress for?
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#3846 [21:59] <Saterius> Kealper you know onm the right of the page well what do the green and blue avitars mean
#3847 [22:00] <aljorub> kealper
#3848 [22:00] <Saterius> *on*
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#3851 [22:00] <mib_9ycdus> HI
#3852 [22:00] <mib_9ycdus> AMM I CANT PLAY MINE CRAFT
#3853 [22:00] <mib_9ycdus> THE CENTRAL SCREEN IS BLACK
#3854 [22:00] <Ryladine> Be more specific please mib.
#3855 [22:00] <mib_9ycdus> OK
#3856 [22:00] <mib_9ycdus> HERE WE GO
#3857 [22:00] <Archness> caps makes it all better
#3858 [22:00] <Ryladine> Also, refrain from excessive use of caps.
#3859 [22:01] <mib_9ycdus> I ok
#3860 [22:01] <mib_9ycdus> I ok
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#3863 [22:01] <mib_9ycdus> sorry
#3864 [22:01] <mib_9ycdus> here we go
#3865 [22:01] <aljorub> will it
#3866 [22:01] <mib_9ycdus> amm i created my acount ok?
#3867 [22:01] <Ryladine> Now, you say your screen is black. Have you isntalled any mods?
#3868 [22:01] <mib_9ycdus> so i tired t play the clasic version and tells me that requires my permision to run java
#3869 [22:01] <Jouster500> any help yet?
#3870 [22:01] <mib_9ycdus> so i gave it
#3871 [22:01] <Ryladine> Also, what is your minecraft username?
#3872 [22:01] <mib_9ycdus> ligachi
#3873 [22:01] <Ryladine> What is your problem jouster?
#3874 [22:02] <Ryladine> !paid ligachi
#3875 [22:02] <mib_9ycdus> my problem is that the sreen s black
#3876 [22:02] <Saterius> mib_9ycdus you need to update java
#3877 [22:02] <mib_9ycdus> so?
#3878 [22:02] <mib_9ycdus> ok
#3879 [22:02] <Ryladine> Are you certain that is right? I'm afraid I can't help you if your account is not paid for.
#3880 [22:02] <mib_9ycdus> but i need to pay to play clasic version?
#3881 [22:02] <aljorub> my house got damdge but i have a coppy off the old save will it work
#3882 [22:02] <Jouster500> keapler is still answering but idk if he gave up yet or not
#3883 [22:02] <zkxs> ^ classic
#3884 [22:02] <Ryladine> Ah clisic.
#3885 [22:02] <mib_9ycdus> yeah
#3886 [22:02] <aljorub> somone pleas its burning
#3887 [22:02] <mib_9ycdus> ??
#3888 [22:02] <Jouster500> but if u think you can help great...
#3889 [22:03] <Ryladine> What version of java are you running? Please follow voxelheads dirrections mib
#3890 [22:03] <mib_9ycdus> please help i really want to play
#3891 [22:03] <Saterius> mib_9ycdus you need to update java
#3892 [22:03] <mib_9ycdus> oo ok
#3893 [22:03] <mib_9ycdus> im runnign it on mac
#3894 [22:03] <Kealper> zkxs: hop the channel to test something
#3895 [22:03] <Ryladine> ??> mib_9ycdus java/version
#3896 [22:03] <aljorub> ryladine
#3897 [22:03] <VoxelHead> mib_9ycdus: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#3898 [22:03] <VoxelHead> mib_9ycdus: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#3899 [22:03] <VoxelHead> mib_9ycdus: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
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#3902 [22:03] <Ryladine> Yes aljorub?
#3903 [22:03] <zkxs> :D
#3904 [22:03] <aljorub> my house got damdge but i have a coppy off the old save will it work
#3905 [22:03] <Jouster500> so i want to play the minecraft multiplayer, but i dont even know ow to start one run one at all
#3906 [22:03] <mib_9ycdus> ok let me check
#3907 [22:04] <Ryladine> aljorub: If you wanted to revert as far back as that save yes.
#3908 [22:04] <aljorub> i copyied the folder on windows is that ok
#3909 [22:04] <Jouster500> now keapler says that its a port thing but idk
#3910 [22:04] <aljorub> how do i put it on
#3911 [22:04] <Ryladine> kealper :s
#3912 [22:04] <Jouster500> i just want to play multiplayer
#3913 [22:05] <aljorub> ryladine
#3914 [22:05] <Jouster500> how???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
#3915 [22:05] <mib_9ycdus> damn i just dont know what java i have =(
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#3917 [22:05] <Ryladine> That would work fine aljorub
#3918 [22:05] <Ryladine> mib the site voxelhead gave you will tell you.
#3919 [22:05] <Kealper> ehh
#3920 [22:05] <Kealper> vox is being... a bit on the dumb side lol
#3921 [22:06] <Jouster500> sooooooooooooo
#3922 [22:06] <mib_9ycdus> oo ok
#3923 [22:06] <Ryladine> How? I haven't noticed anything yet lol.
#3924 [22:06] <Ryladine> Oh the mutes
#3925 [22:06] <TheNytangel> You voiced.. can ignore what I just said
#3926 [22:06] <TheNytangel> :)
#3927 [22:06] <Saterius> Kealper what do the green and blue avitars mean on the right side of the page
#3928 [22:06] <Jouster500> kealper
#3929 [22:06] <Jouster500> any help?
#3930 [22:07] <Kealper> Saterius: uhh... i have no idea what you mean
#3931 [22:07] <Ryladine> Saterius: I assume you mean in your IRC client, its likely the rank of the people in the channel guest/voiced/op
#3932 [22:07] <TheNytangel> I'm sure you guys find it gross that I haven't cut my toe nails in 4 years
#3933 [22:07] <Saterius> oh
#3934 [22:07] <Kealper> OH
#3935 [22:07] <Saterius> oh thats nasty
#3936 [22:07] * Kealper keeps forgetting about mibbit
#3936 [22:07] <TheNytangel> *cough*
#3937 [22:08] <Jouster500> .....................................................................................
#3938 [22:08] <Ryladine> Jouster, kealper doesn't seem to be paying much attention lol, so what is your exact problem right now?
#3939 [22:08] <Kealper> TheNytangel: forget to send that as a voice notice, did you? lol
#3940 [22:08] <TheNytangel> Saterius, blue are mibbits, green are people with IRC clients
#3941 [22:08] <aljorub> it didnt work ryladine
#3942 [22:08] <TheNytangel> Kealper, a bit :P
#3943 [22:08] <Jouster500> I WANT TO PLAY THE FRIGGEN MULTIPLAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#3944 [22:08] <Saterius> oh
#3945 [22:08] <Ryladine> aljorub: Where did you put the backup? Did you overwrite the old save?
#3946 [22:08] <TheNytangel> Saterius, mibbits are the.. well, people like you, who use mibbit
#3947 [22:08] <aljorub> yes
#3948 [22:08] <Ryladine> Jouster its fairly simple to do.
#3949 [22:09] <Ryladine> Kealper its not that hard XD
#3950 [22:09] <Kealper> Jouster500: have you considered playing on someone else's server?
#3951 [22:09] <Ryladine> I think thats what he is trying to do.
#3952 [22:09] <mib_9ycdus> what java version i need?
#3953 [22:09] <Jouster500> YES BUT IDK HOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#3954 [22:09] <Ryladine> mib_9ycdus: What version do you HAVE I can tell you if its the right one.
#3955 [22:09] <aljorub> yes
#3956 [22:09] <mib_9ycdus> 14.03
#3957 [22:09] <aljorub> ryladine
#3958 [22:09] <Ryladine> Jouster: login, click multiplayer, click dirrect connet, input ip
#3959 [22:09] <Ryladine> Oh god mib
#3960 [22:10] <mib_9ycdus> 14.0.3
#3961 [22:10] <Ryladine> Thats quite a bit out of date.
#3962 [22:10] <mib_9ycdus> so whats next
#3963 [22:10] <Ryladine> No
#3964 [22:10] <mib_9ycdus> =(
#3965 [22:10] <Ryladine> I'm sorry that doesn't exist yet?
#3966 [22:10] <aljorub> ryladine help
#3967 [22:10] <zkxs> ?? java/version
#3968 [22:10] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#3969 [22:10] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#3970 [22:10] <mib_w062ho> I paid for the game but can't play. I keep getting the message error because of accelerated Open GL mode can anyone help ???
#3971 [22:10] <Ryladine> I already tried that, he seemed to fail at its use.
#3972 [22:10] <Jouster500> ok,.....
#3973 [22:10] <Ryladine> mib_w062ho: update your graphics drivers.
#3974 [22:10] <mib_9ycdus> look
#3975 [22:11] <Kealper> TheNytangel: way to just make 200 peoples' clients beep....
#3976 [22:11] <mib_9ycdus> it says
#3977 [22:11] <TheNytangel> :)
#3978 [22:11] <aljorub> ryladine what do i do
#3979 [22:11] <mib_9ycdus> javavisualVM
#3980 [22:11] <Jouster500> so what do i put into the servers address?
#3981 [22:11] <mib_9ycdus> version
#3982 [22:11] <mib_9ycdus> 14.0.3
#3983 [22:11] <Ryladine> aljorub: Since you don't know how to do it manually and we're all a bit busy why not rebuild it yourself? I am helping several others with larger problems.
#3984 [22:12] <Ryladine> mib_9ycdus: That version DOES not exist.
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#3986 [22:12] <Kealper> mib_9ycdus: only Oracle Java JRE is supported
#3987 [22:12] <mib_9ycdus> oo ok
#3988 [22:12] <Kealper> mib_9ycdus: http://java.com
#3989 [22:12] <mib_9ycdus> so can you send me a link to update my java?
#3990 [22:12] <Ryladine> Pft macs I just don't understand them lol.
#3991 [22:12] <aljorub> ryladine no need to bee like that
#3992 [22:13] <mib_9ycdus> ok im updating my java
#3993 [22:13] <Ryladine> I'm sorry aljorub, simply replace the current save with your backup, its that simple.
#3994 [22:13] <Saterius> Kealper why is my avitar green if im sighned in to the mobbit acount
#3995 [22:13] <Jouster500> Ryladine what do i put in for server address?
#3996 [22:13] <aljorub> its ok
#3997 [22:13] <Saterius> *mibbit*
#3998 [22:13] <Kealper> i don't understand macs either, past their basic Unix-like commands ._.
#3999 [22:13] <aljorub> thanx
#4000 [22:13] <Ryladine> Jouster give me a moment and I'll give you an IP you can try it waith.
#4001 [22:13] <zkxs> ??< linux/dontdothis
#4002 [22:13] <Jouster500> yay!
#4003 [22:13] <Ryladine> Afterwards you will need to find a server you want to play and use their ip.
#4004 [22:13] * zkxs does
#4004 [22:13] <Kealper> zkxs: fork bomb lol
#4005 [22:13] <Jouster500> then i think the rest goes from there
#4006 [22:14] <zkxs> lol, i know
#4007 [22:14] <Jouster500> so on to second problem
#4008 [22:14] <nipper> Anyone know how to get MC to run on another core? Exaple, Running MC Server from command line. It will use core1 for main stuff like rendering chunks. What I am asking is there a way to tell it what core to use?
#4009 [22:14] <Jouster500> thanks SO MUch by the way
#4010 [22:14] <Kealper> nipper: nope :/
#4011 [22:14] <Jouster500> now this problems ingame so idk if you cover it
#4012 [22:14] <Ryladine> Ask
#4013 [22:15] <zkxs> nipper: well, you can set it each time... also I once found a command line application to do it. you could google for it
#4014 [22:15] <nipper> Thats a shame I wish there was. Or even something I can add to commandline to help it smoth out when running more then one sever.
#4015 [22:15] <Ryladine> Jouster I am about to pm you an IP
#4016 [22:15] <|Kiikun|> nipper: best chance with windows is to make it change what core its using via taskmanager. if you cant figure out how, then dont even bother trying
#4017 [22:15] <nipper> I need it not in window but Linux.
#4018 [22:15] <Jouster500> when i was going to build tracks for my minecart, i realized they only go in one direction
#4019 [22:15] <Jouster500> so i tryed again same problem...
#4020 [22:16] <Ryladine> What do you mean by they go in only one dirrection?
#4021 [22:16] <nipper> It's for my main server not a fan of seeing core0 maxed out when chunks render even with a i5 2400
#4022 [22:16] <zkxs> nipper: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/setting-processor-affinity-certain-task-or-process.html
#4023 [22:16] <aljorub> ryladine thanx it worked its not your fault its mine i dont have ant pation i can see people have bigger problams
#4024 [22:16] <Ryladine> Like they can't make a + or that they cannot go back and forth on the track?
#4025 [22:16] <Jouster500> they only go in one direction when placed
#4026 [22:16] <Ryladine> Place another track near it. It will turn to connect.
#4027 [22:16] <Jouster500> like they only go north to south
#4028 [22:16] <|Kiikun|> Jouster500: place other tracks next to them.
#4029 [22:17] <Jouster500> thats it?
#4030 [22:17] <Ryladine> Yep
#4031 [22:17] <Jouster500> can i also make curves doing this?
#4032 [22:17] <Ryladine> Yes
#4033 [22:17] <Jouster500> sweet!
#4034 [22:17] <nipper> ty zkxs I will have to toy with this. Only one bad issue is that I use a auto restarter every4hrs so pid changes.
#4035 [22:17] <Jouster500> thanks so much for all your help guys
#4036 [22:17] <Ryladine> Did you get the IP to test jouster?
#4037 [22:18] <Jouster500> no where do i go to get it?
#4038 [22:18] <Saterius> hello im back
#4039 [22:18] <Ryladine> I /msg'd it to you I'll send it again
#4040 [22:18] <Jouster500> how!?
#4041 [22:18] <Jouster500> and where?
#4042 [22:19] <Ryladine> Thats a domain on my IP because I'm too lazy to remember the actual IP, put it in the text box that appears when you press multiplayer>dirrect conenct
#4043 [22:20] <Saterius> hahahaha so true
#4044 [22:20] <zkxs> nipper: you don't need the PID unless you want to change an existing process. you can simply use taskset to launch the server
#4045 [22:20] <zkxs> check out the man pages
#4046 [22:21] <zkxs> http://linux.die.net/man/1/taskset
#4047 [22:21] <Jouster500> ok and?
#4048 [22:21] <Ryladine> And thats it..
#4049 [22:21] <Ryladine> Thats how you connect to a server.
#4050 [22:21] <Jouster500> still didn't get the ip but ok...
#4051 [22:21] <Ryladine> PFt
#4052 [22:22] <Ryladine> Test it with ryladine.info
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#4054 [22:22] <Ryladine> Apparently your client is not receiving my pm's
#4055 [22:22] <Saterius> hello Bigginer
#4056 [22:22] <Begginer> nello'
#4057 [22:22] <Ryladine> Hmm
#4058 [22:22] <Saterius> k nello to you
#4059 [22:23] <Begginer> lol
#4060 [22:23] <Saterius> lol
#4061 [22:23] <Jouster500> ryladine.info doesn't work... ill try to do it on my own thanks anyways
#4062 [22:23] <Ryladine> It worked.
#4063 [22:23] <Saterius> so whats your problem
#4064 [22:23] <Ryladine> I saw your connection attempt I assume you get a invalid conenction key
#4065 [22:23] <Ryladine> error
#4066 [22:23] <Begginer> ok umm so i try to download minecraft
#4067 [22:23] <Saterius> so whats happening
#4068 [22:23] <Begginer> but it just throws me into the game
#4069 [22:24] <Begginer> and doesnot give me the icon on my desktop
#4070 [22:24] <Ryladine> Your at the wrong place.
#4071 [22:24] <Begginer> so i have to go in the internet to play
#4072 [22:24] <Begginer> ?
#4073 [22:24] <Ryladine> Go to the download section of the site, and get the minecraft.exe
#4074 [22:24] <Ryladine> You launch it with that.
#4075 [22:24] <Begginer> ok dont hang up ill try
#4076 [22:24] <Saterius> yeah are you sure your not pressing in browser
#4077 [22:25] <Kealper> Begginer: make sure you are clicking Save and not just Run for the minecraft.exe download, as well
#4078 [22:26] <Begginer> ok ok
#4079 [22:26] <Saterius> yeah and make sure you have java and all that
#4080 [22:26] <Begginer> wait so here is the home page of minecraft and under the picture i click download right?
#4081 [22:26] <Saterius> just in case
#4082 [22:26] <Saterius> yeah
#4083 [22:27] <Saterius> exactly
#4084 [22:27] <Ryladine> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#4085 [22:27] <Ryladine> That is the exact page you download the exe on.
#4086 [22:27] <Begginer> so here i click download minecraft.exe and it gives me run or save
#4087 [22:27] <Ryladine> Save it
#4088 [22:27] <Saterius> press save
#4089 [22:27] <Begginer> oh ok
#4090 [22:28] <Begginer> ok so i am
#4091 [22:28] <Begginer> its loading
#4092 [22:28] <Saterius> ok
#4093 [22:28] <Begginer> it may go terribly wrong as it happens to me
#4094 [22:29] <Begginer> of course!
#4095 [22:29] <Begginer> it stopped on 44%
#4096 [22:29] <Saterius> did it download
#4097 [22:29] <Begginer> no i am saving it and it stopped
#4098 [22:29] <Begginer> no i am saving it and it stopped
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#4100 [22:30] <Ryladine> Hmm.
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#4102 [22:30] <zkxs> *cough cough* avira?
#4103 [22:30] <Ryladine> Indeed.
#4104 [22:30] <mib_2p4afk> i would like to thank greyvulpine for helping me
#4105 [22:30] <mib_2p4afk> THANK YOU SO MUCH
#4106 [22:30] <Begginer> so what do i do???????????????
#4107 [22:31] <zkxs> Begginer: what antivirus do you use?
#4108 [22:31] <Begginer> kansperski lab 2011
#4109 [22:31] <Begginer> =)
#4110 [22:31] <Ryladine> Mmm it can cause as many problems as avira
#4111 [22:32] <Ryladine> Try disabling it while you download the file.
#4112 [22:32] <Begginer> oh god i dont even know how!!!!!!!!! I am 12 c'maaan
#4113 [22:33] <Saterius> well i got to go bye
#4114 [22:33] <Ryladine> Begginer: Do you have permisison to download files to this computer?
#4115 [22:33] <Ryladine> Begginer: I can assist you with remote control software if you would like and are permitted.
#4116 [22:33] <Begginer> yes its my persenal comp
#4117 [22:33] <Saterius> voldamorts nipples
#4118 [22:33] <Saterius> lol
#4119 [22:33] <Saterius> lol
#4120 [22:33] <Begginer> oh well just go ahead
#4121 [22:33] <nipper> zkxs Thanks vary much. It worked.
#4122 [22:34] <zkxs> nipper: no problem
#4123 [22:34] <Ryladine> Alright, please listen to what voxelhead says.
#4124 [22:34] <nipper> Now I can run 2 servers on a i5 with out 1 server killing the other.
#4125 [22:34] <Begginer> oh wait i got it thx
#4126 [22:34] <zkxs> with linux, where there is a will, there is a way.
#4127 [22:34] <Ryladine> Ah, good.
#4128 [22:34] <Ryladine> Try it again and it should work.
#4129 [22:34] <nipper> lol
#4130 [22:35] <Begginer> oh god
#4131 [22:36] <zkxs> ... is it full of stars?
#4132 [22:36] <Begginer> thx very much guys
#4133 [22:37] <Ryladine> I would say he was NOT supposed to be downloading things lol.
#4134 [22:37] <zkxs> Based off the fact that he couldn't find the launcher?
#4135 [22:37] <zkxs> or did I miss something...
#4136 [22:37] <Ryladine> That, and his rather abrupt departure.
#4137 [22:38] <zkxs> Oh, lol, you think he got caught
#4138 [22:38] <Ryladine> XD
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#4140 [22:45] <`Kelby> can ladders and signs still be used interchangably to stop water? i'm trying to make a spider spawner trap, but i wandered down to the bottom of the world and have no idea how to get back to the top, so i can't really pop up to get some trees. i have a lot of sticks, so i can mae a bunch of ladders, but i dunno about signs...
#4141 [22:45] <|Kiikun|> `Kelby: welcome back teach'! :D
#4142 [22:45] <`Kelby> hi!
#4143 [22:45] <|Kiikun|> both still do as far as i know
#4144 [22:45] <`Kelby> me kids don't talk to me about anything else other then minecraft... it's a little worrysome that the grade 3 kid seems to spend so much time on it...
#4145 [22:46] <`Kelby> can i bother you by showing you a youtube video and you tell me if i can use ladders instead?
#4146 [22:46] <`Kelby> i THINK ladders use up less general wood then signs do
#4147 [22:47] <|Kiikun|> sign = 6 block 1 stick. converts to 13 sticks/sign
#4148 [22:47] <|Kiikun|> ladders = 7 sticks for 2 :P
#4149 [22:47] <`Kelby> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeZnLVyhonY
#4150 [22:48] <`Kelby> i need 15 signs. i have 34 planks and 26 sticks with me.
#4151 [22:48] <|Kiikun|> ladders have collision boxed though.
#4152 [22:48] <`Kelby> and i'm not quite sure i wanna use everything up, cause i kinda wanna make a few more torches so i can find my way out of the botoom of the world
#4153 [22:48] <`Kelby> i have no idea what that means
#4154 [22:48] <|Kiikun|> means you can bump into them. they have physical substance
#4155 [22:49] <`Kelby> so... i should just make signs?
#4156 [22:49] <|Kiikun|> like fences appear to have 1 block height, but you cant jump them because the collision boxes are 1.5 tall
#4157 [22:49] <`Kelby> i have no idea what that means.
#4158 [22:50] * `Kelby crosses her eyes and THINKS real hard. i can't jump over fences, cause they are invisibly taller then they are.
#4158 [22:50] <|Kiikun|> yes.
#4159 [22:50] <`Kelby> and i can't jump over ladders, cause they are invisibly fatter then they are
#4160 [22:50] <`Kelby> but signs are skinny
#4161 [22:50] <zkxs> if you fall onto a ladder, you take damage. if you fall onto a sign, you pass through it.
#4162 [22:50] <|Kiikun|> they stick you off a wall a bit...
#4163 [22:50] <|Kiikun|> *watchign video*
#4164 [22:50] <`Kelby> well.... what would spiders d?
#4165 [22:50] <|Kiikun|> use signs
#4166 [22:51] <|Kiikun|> they coudl easilly get stuck on ladders in that
#4167 [22:51] <|Kiikun|> though... that would probably still drown them :P
#4168 [22:51] <|Kiikun|> though... that would probably still drown them :P
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#4170 [22:52] <`Kelby> i'm trying to duplicate that trap, cause i'm trying to get some string so i can make a fishing pole. and as long as i have a spider, it's much much easier for me to sit and collect drowned spiders then it would be for my pathetic girlie ass to run around trying to fight them above ground. i'm a giant coward.
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#4175 [22:52] <mollstam> morning
#4176 [22:52] <|Kiikun|> hello mollstam :D
#4177 [22:52] <|Kiikun|> Wug[Hyperspace]: *BEEEP*
#4178 [22:53] <mollstam> I HAVE CONVERSED WITH WUG ON OTHER SEAS
#4179 [22:53] <mollstam> sorry
#4180 [22:53] <|Kiikun|> ah ok :P
#4181 [22:53] <mollstam> caps is more funny early in the morning
#4182 [22:53] <`Kelby> also, i have no idea at all how to make my way back up to the top of the world, cause i'm RETARDEDLY lost. but about 20 blocks away, at the bottom of the world (i know i'm at the bottom, cause i'm fnding diamonds and diamonds are pretty darn far down) i'm seeing snow. cause there's a giant hole in my cave, and i can see the sky. which is worrying me in case i run around up top and fall
#4183 [22:53] <`Kelby> into the hole. but is there an easy way to use said hole to get out, without flying? cause i'm worried if i learn how to fly, i'll forever use that cheat and i dun really want to cheat that way
#4184 [22:54] <|Kiikun|> `Kelby: signs would still be best there. once you find a spider dungeon that is :P
#4185 [22:54] <`Kelby> ok
#4186 [22:55] <|Kiikun|> `Kelby: and you can make stairs up the sides of the hole :3 or just pillar up
#4187 [22:55] <|Kiikun|> depends if you have lots of blocks you dont need or want more blocks :P
#4188 [22:56] <`Kelby> damnit... i'm short by 10 planks to make enough signs
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#4190 [22:57] <`Kelby> hrm... how long does it take to grow a tree at the bottom of the world? i think i can plant it by the hole... and i'm surrounded by lava, so i'm assuming there's enough light....
#4191 [22:57] <|Kiikun|> lava + wood = fire
#4192 [22:57] <zkxs> one torch adjacent to the sapling is enough
#4193 [22:57] <zkxs> and trees need LOTS of room
#4194 [22:57] <Saterius> hay does anybody know about the minecraft pocket addition app
#4195 [22:57] <|Kiikun|> and zkxs is right :P
#4196 [22:58] <`Kelby> nevermind... no saplings.
#4197 [22:58] <Saterius> anybody
#4198 [22:58] <Saterius> anybody
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#4200 [22:58] <`Kelby> darnit!
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#4202 [22:58] <Saterius> ANYBODY
#4203 [22:59] <|Kiikun|> Saterius: sorry ^^; know nothign about the portable
#4204 [22:59] <|Kiikun|> i dont atleast
#4205 [22:59] <`Kelby> i heard that you can't craft on the app... and there's no monsters or animals or anything.
#4206 [22:59] <|Kiikun|> its basicly Classic/Creative
#4207 [23:00] <`Kelby> i think it's like... basic version of basic, where you can build pretty things, cause you have a few blocks but not really much else.
#4208 [23:00] <Saterius> oh cause i try to download the portable and it sais in need to update my ipod but my ipod is fully updated
#4209 [23:00] <`Kelby> i think it was designed to kill time, not... be MINECRAFT!
#4210 [23:01] <|Kiikun|> ipods and the like lack the hardware resources to run a game like minecraft. :P
#4211 [23:01] <|Kiikun|> the JVM eats half a gig just for the game
#4212 [23:02] <Saterius> yeah but THERES AN APP!! and it sais i need to update my ipod and its fully updated
#4213 [23:02] <|Kiikun|> Saterius: it might be that your ipod isnt in the list of ones supported? like my nano runs nothing :P
#4214 [23:03] <Saterius> no cause it sais ipod touch which i have iphone and ipad
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#4216 [23:04] <|Kiikun|> Saterius: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Pocket_Edition#iOS_2
#4217 [23:04] <Saterius> thankyou
#4218 [23:04] <|Kiikun|> Saterius: what gen touch you have?
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#4222 [23:07] <|Kiikun|> the ipads shodul run it.
#4223 [23:08] <|Kiikun|> but according to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_version_history you need a 3GS, the 3G wont
#4224 [23:09] <Saterius> i have the 4 version of the ipod 4.2,2 to be exact the newest version
#4225 [23:13] <|Kiikun|> 4.2.2 sounds like the iOS version.
#4226 [23:14] <Saterius> i know right and it wont work
#4227 [23:14] <|Kiikun|> minecraft pocket needs 4.3.
#4228 [23:14] <|Kiikun|> and 4.2.1 was last supported for the iphone 3.
#4229 [23:15] <|Kiikun|> if you have a iphone 4 then it shoudl upgrade
#4230 [23:15] <Saterius> well the 4.3 isnt out yet
#4231 [23:15] <|Kiikun|> um... yes it is...
#4232 [23:15] <|Kiikun|> its out and gone.
#4233 [23:15] <Saterius> cause my ipod wont upgade
#4234 [23:15] <|Kiikun|> they in the 5,0s now
#4235 [23:16] <Saterius> well mine sais it has no update
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#4237 [23:16] <|Kiikun|> ok, first. this an iphone, ipod, or ipad?
#4238 [23:17] <Saterius> ipod touch
#4239 [23:17] <Loki775_> Hey if anyone here has a sec could they help me with installing some minecraft mods?
#4240 [23:17] <|Kiikun|> Loki775_: read the instructions on the forum post you got the mod from...
#4241 [23:18] <Loki775_> I know I did and I can't get it. WHenever I try to launch with the mods I get a black screen
#4242 [23:19] <Loki775_> D:
#4243 [23:20] <|Kiikun|> Saterius: how many gigs is it?
#4244 [23:20] <Saterius> the 8 gig
#4245 [23:21] <Saterius> or 6 gig whatever it is
#4246 [23:21] <|Kiikun|> 16?
#4247 [23:21] <|Kiikun|> 8 is smallest.
#4248 [23:22] <Saterius> yeah i know but it only requires 2.3 gigs
#4249 [23:22] <Saterius> and i have 4.1 gigs left
#4250 [23:22] <|Kiikun|> im tryign to confirm which version of the ipod you have without actually knowing anything about ipods beyong my own nano :P
#4251 [23:23] <Saterius> ok
#4252 [23:23] <Saterius> let me check just wait
#4253 [23:23] <|Kiikun|> do you remember when you got it?
#4254 [23:23] <Saterius> year ago
#4255 [23:24] * |Kiikun| grumbles!
#4255 [23:24] <Saterius> i have a 6 gig
#4256 [23:24] <Saterius> to be accurate the summer of 2010
#4257 [23:24] <|Kiikun|> it looks like 2nd and 3rd gens are nearly identical and both discontinued sept 2010 :/
#4258 [23:25] <Saterius> yeah but for some reason i can upgrade to the 4 generation and i did
#4259 [23:26] <|Kiikun|> thats not gen, thats os ver
#4260 [23:26] <Saterius> my version is 4.2.1 (8C148)
#4261 [23:27] <|Kiikun|> Saterius: and you cant upgrade. that means its probably a 2nd Gen Ipod Touch. which cant be upgraded past 4.2.1 and minecraft pocket needs 4.3 minimum
#4262 [23:27] <Saterius> that sucks
#4263 [23:28] <Saterius> they should make it so i could upgrade a little bit more
#4264 [23:28] <Saterius> mabey to 4.6 or something
#4265 [23:28] <|Kiikun|> i think it was either hardware limitations or... apple just wanting to make people keep buying newer hardware as usual.
#4266 [23:29] <|Kiikun|> considering the cpu in them changed between, its probably hardware limitations
#4267 [23:29] <Saterius> yeah probly the 2 idea but i wont bye a new ipod for 1 app
#4268 [23:29] <Saterius> oh ok just forget about the last post
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#4270 [23:32] <Saterius> well bye im really really tired
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#4272 [23:33] <scotty> hiya
#4273 [23:34] <zkxs> greetings
#4274 [23:34] <|Kiikun|> wb scotty :P
#4275 [23:34] <scotty> hi kiikun
#4276 [23:34] <scotty> after u made my server work that same day i turned off my computer turned it back on later and it wasnt working
#4277 [23:34] <scotty> so kealper fixed it for me
#4278 [23:35] <scotty> and now my internet is really really really slow
#4279 [23:35] <|Kiikun|> scotty: your local ip changed probbaly.
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#4281 [23:35] <Richy> 'nother error report
#4282 [23:35] <scotty> i dont suppose it made my internet slower?
#4283 [23:35] <scotty> i cant play anything im too laggy :(
#4284 [23:35] <scotty> cant even host the server from too much lag
#4285 [23:35] <Richy> just let me fetch it
#4286 [23:35] <Richy> scotty
#4287 [23:36] <Richy> lag is my specialty
#4288 [23:36] <Richy> averge fps?
#4289 [23:36] <|Kiikun|> scotty: shoudlnt have made you laggy...
#4290 [23:36] <scotty> im not to sure but i havnt been this laggy for about 5 years
#4291 [23:36] <scotty> and i have good internet and a good pc
#4292 [23:36] <Richy> scotty wats ur averaqge fps
#4293 [23:36] <|Kiikun|> scotty: any chance someone else on the network is watching videos or downloading large things?
#4294 [23:36] <Richy> scotty and ur ram?
#4295 [23:37] <|Kiikun|> Richy: not game-lag. network lag
#4296 [23:37] <Richy> oh is this just a lag spike?
#4297 [23:37] <Richy> oh
#4298 [23:37] <scotty> kiikun even when i use to torrent games i still never lag
#4299 [23:37] <Richy> im not good there sorrt
#4300 [23:37] <Richy> virus?
#4301 [23:37] * |Kiikun| has no idea :/
#4301 [23:38] <scotty> my brother recons someone is hacking my pc from this site but i highly doubt it
#4302 [23:38] <|Kiikun|> scotty: you can close teamviewer. and youd know if someone was accessing via thast.
#4303 [23:38] <scotty> because like 5 different people teamviewed me and everyone knows all my passes and stuff like that
#4304 [23:38] * Kealper is back for a sec
#4304 [23:38] <scotty> my teamviewer is close
#4305 [23:38] <Richy> scotty is it a virus?
#4306 [23:39] <scotty> dont think so richy
#4307 [23:39] <Richy> never know
#4308 [23:39] <|Kiikun|> also you have seen what each of us have done. i know for a fact all ive done was try to set a static local ip and correct port forwards
#4309 [23:39] <Richy> ok heres my error report
#4310 [23:39] <Richy> http://mibpaste.com/jMJS2c
#4311 [23:39] <Kealper> scotty: ok, since i sincerely would like to help you get your internet back up to snuff... i've got a few questions
#4312 [23:39] <|Kiikun|> scotty: noone has your passes on your compuiter unless you watched them do it. even typing in one wouldnt show whats beign typed
#4313 [23:39] <scotty> |kiikun| i highly doubt that u guys did anything
#4314 [23:40] <scotty> guys i highly doubt u guys did anything
#4315 [23:40] <|Kiikun|> Richy: ... theres no problematic frame? wtf?
#4316 [23:40] <scotty> its just when the server got portfowarded my computer is lagging for some reason
#4317 [23:40] <Kealper> scotty: also yes, with the TeamViewer thing, once you close out of it, that person that was connected can no longer connect, because the password changes each time
#4318 [23:40] <Richy> scotty maybe its just...your computers time
#4319 [23:40] <Kealper> Richy: you arn't helping at all
#4320 [23:40] <zkxs> "error occurred during error reporting" <-- your errors have errors
#4321 [23:40] <Richy> kealper thats not true
#4322 [23:40] <scotty> its not because its lagging all the other computers like my brothers on my internet
#4323 [23:40] <Richy> lol
#4324 [23:40] <|Kiikun|> Richy: uninstall and reinstall java?
#4325 [23:41] <Richy> ya..hell no
#4326 [23:41] <Kealper> scotty: ok, so everyone in your house is getting slower internet?
#4327 [23:41] <scotty> are u guys possitive changing a ip could make my internet slower?
#4328 [23:41] <scotty> kealper u are correct
#4329 [23:41] <|Kiikun|> scotty: try running a speedtest. http://speedtest.net/
#4330 [23:41] <scotty> i cant even load youtube videos now :(
#4331 [23:41] <Kealper> scotty: as for setting static IPs, we do it plenty of times each and every day
#4332 [23:42] <Richy> maybe someone has hacked ur internet and is constantly usin it
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#4334 [23:42] <zkxs> if the problem started after a new local IP, it could be DHCP...?
#4335 [23:42] <Kealper> |Kiikun|: scotty did one yesterday, it was like around 0.25mbit down/up with a 30ms ping
#4336 [23:42] <Richy> guys wats my error report mean?
#4337 [23:42] <|Kiikun|> scotty: noones on your server?
#4338 [23:42] <Richy> http://mibpaste.com/Vc60hd
#4339 [23:42] <Kealper> scotty: and you are positive your internet is not being speed-capped for using too much bandwidth?
#4340 [23:43] <zkxs> :ts/launcher > Richy
#4341 [23:43] <WugBot> Richy: (ts/launcher) Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#4342 [23:43] <WugBot> Richy: (ts/launcher) Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#4343 [23:43] <|Kiikun|> ooh.. yes... cable likes to do that depending on the company
#4344 [23:43] <scotty> i have 500gigs a month and we never use it up it could be
#4345 [23:43] <scotty> but highly unlikely
#4346 [23:44] <Kealper> scotty: hmm... i wonder if someone touched something inside your router's settings on accident called QoS
#4347 [23:44] <zkxs> checking speedtest.net would reveal if you are being throttled
#4348 [23:44] <Kealper> zkxs: it really looks like it from the one i seen yesterday
#4349 [23:44] <scotty> kealper well 5 different people from this site did teamview me
#4350 [23:44] <Richy> perhaps someone put a virus on it
#4351 [23:44] <Kealper> scotty: well, want to start up teamviewer and have me check through the router's settings?
#4352 [23:44] <scotty> yes if u can
#4353 [23:45] <|Kiikun|> scotty: me and kealper are trustworthy, who else helped?
#4354 [23:45] <Kealper> scotty: to private chat then
#4355 [23:45] <scotty> greyvulpine helped
#4356 [23:45] <zkxs> Richy: Did you get that other launcher?
#4357 [23:45] <scotty> tanics helped
#4358 [23:45] <Richy> not yet but SHIIHIT
#4359 [23:45] <scotty> and someone else
#4360 [23:45] <Richy> it happened again
#4361 [23:45] <Richy> heres new report
#4362 [23:45] <zkxs> it?
#4363 [23:46] <Richy> crashed
#4364 [23:46] <Richy> its when i am changing to a hd tex pack, when i click it in the texpack thing
#4365 [23:47] * |Kiikun| calls mod breakign game... since hd pack needs mod
#4365 [23:47] <zkxs> ?? mods
#4366 [23:47] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#4367 [23:47] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
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#4369 [23:47] <zkxs> Richy: make sure the mod is for your version of minecraft
#4370 [23:48] <Richy> ok...wat was that? i was just saying when it happens
#4371 [23:48] <Richy> its a texturepack!
#4372 [23:48] <|Kiikun|> Richy: the game doesnt not natively support HD texture packs. (read anything above 16x16)
#4373 [23:49] <Richy> i know
#4374 [23:49] <Richy> it was workin before
#4375 [23:49] <|Kiikun|> Richy: then you updated?
#4376 [23:49] <Richy> WAAAAIT
#4377 [23:50] <Richy> i remember wat i did the first time
#4378 [23:50] <Richy> its because i have in optifine the animations for water and lava turned off
#4379 [23:50] <Richy> i can see it in MinecraFts command prompt
#4380 [23:50] <Richy> one sec lemme change
#4381 [23:51] <Richy> (MinecraFt= a special launcher of mine
#4382 [23:51] <|Kiikun|> Richy: 'special' how?
#4383 [23:52] <Richy> jack-sonofa
#4384 [23:52] <Richy> crap
#4385 [23:52] <Richy> ok long story
#4386 [23:53] <Richy> basically launches mc with lower mem requirements and a command prompt that shows wats happenin, preey much an error report as the errors hapenin
#4387 [23:53] <Richy> GTG BAAI
#4388 [23:53] <Richy> GTG BAAI
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#4390 [23:53] <|Kiikun|> so basicly thrae's ts/launcher
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#4393 [23:59] <Wug> |Kiikun|: I made that :|
#4394 [23:59] <|Kiikun|> Wug: you have the ACTUAL launcher
#4395 [23:59] <|Kiikun|> threa links to a batch file or something