#1 [00:00] <needcraft> im assuming unzip...cuz double clicking made it mad XD
#2 [00:00] <needcraft> an yea :3
#3 [00:01] <lostdemouse> Hmmm if its a game its most likely double click
#4 [00:01] <lostdemouse> Unless ur talking about mobile games u stuff it into ur handphone
#5 [00:02] <lostdemouse> What fo u mean by "made it mad"
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#8 [00:07] <mib_n5mew3> blah
#9 [00:07] <mib_n5mew3> dockock
#10 [00:07] <mib_n5mew3> hello?
#11 [00:08] <mib_n5mew3> hello
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#14 [00:09] <mib_3alxv5> hello?
#15 [00:09] <mib_3alxv5> help
#16 [00:09] <Crockeo> Hello
#17 [00:09] <Crockeo> What's wrong?
#18 [00:09] <mib_3alxv5> hi help me
#19 [00:09] <Crockeo> I can't help unless I know what's wrong -_-
#20 [00:10] <mib_3alxv5> my minecraft won't play at the end of the loading it cuts to black or wite
#21 [00:10] <lynxxfrag> evening all, would any you have any idea why my "premium account" is no longer premium?
#22 [00:11] <mib_3alxv5> do you have any idea why?
#23 [00:11] <Crockeo> 'End of the loading'
#24 [00:11] <Crockeo> What do you mean by that?
#25 [00:11] <mib_3alxv5> hello?
#26 [00:11] <lynxxfrag> mib are you running any mods?
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#29 [00:12] <mib_3alxv5> after it loads it cut to back or white
#30 [00:12] <Crockeo> If you're talking about after you log in, (and you don't have any mods that you really care about) press 'Options' (before you log in) and click force update.
#31 [00:12] <Crockeo> But before you do that, let me ask:
#32 [00:12] <mib_3alxv5> yes I am
#33 [00:12] <Crockeo> Okay
#34 [00:12] <Crockeo> Nevermind
#35 [00:12] <Crockeo> don't have to ask anything.
#36 [00:13] <mib_3alxv5> I've trying premium
#37 [00:13] <Crockeo> I apologize, I can't help any furth.
#38 [00:13] <Crockeo> further*
#39 [00:13] <Crockeo> I have to go :/
#40 [00:13] <mib_3alxv5> okay
#41 [00:13] <Crockeo> As I said, do the force update.
#42 [00:13] <Crockeo> If that doesn't work, I'm sure others here can help you.
#43 [00:13] <mib_3alxv5> ok thanks
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#45 [00:13] <Crockeo> (It will remove any mods though)
#46 [00:15] <lostdemouse> lynxxfrag: minecraft.net/support
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#48 [00:15] <mib_w78x7u> help me
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#50 [00:15] <Wug> with what
#51 [00:15] <needcraft> it didnt work D:
#52 [00:16] <lostdemouse> As in the jar thing pr mc?
#53 [00:16] <lostdemouse> Or
#54 [00:16] <Wug> needcraft: its probably not something that we can fix then
#55 [00:16] <Wug> intels graphics chips suck
#56 [00:16] <needcraft> that blows rancid butthole then :'/
#57 [00:16] <lostdemouse> I use nvidia <3
#58 [00:17] <needcraft> i dont know what that is?
#59 [00:17] <lostdemouse> Graphic chip
#60 [00:17] <needcraft> i have a laptop....how do?
#61 [00:18] <mib_w78x7u> I try to play minecraft but it cuts to black or white after the load before the game
#62 [00:18] <mib_w78x7u> hello?
#63 [00:18] <mib_w78x7u> come on
#64 [00:18] <lostdemouse> needcraft: but did u have any probs before??
#65 [00:18] <needcraft> it never worked in the first place :'/
#66 [00:18] <mib_w78x7u> HELP ME
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#68 [00:18] <mib_w78x7u> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#69 [00:18] <lostdemouse> Mib i think u have similar prob with needcraft
#70 [00:19] <lostdemouse> Stop spamming..
#71 [00:19] <needcraft> hes gotta be patient XD
#72 [00:19] <mib_w78x7u> HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
#73 [00:19] <Wug> :dx > mib_w78x7u
#74 [00:19] <WugBot> mib_w78x7u: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#75 [00:19] <WugBot> mib_w78x7u: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#77 [00:19] <lostdemouse> So needcragt did u have that probs lat time or is this the first time u open mc
#78 [00:20] <xxtoxicbladesxx> Hello
#79 [00:20] <xxtoxicbladesxx> Im in need of help.
#80 [00:20] <lostdemouse> What help?
#81 [00:20] <xxtoxicbladesxx> I updated to 1.0.0
#82 [00:20] <xxtoxicbladesxx> But i dont know how to get 1.8.1
#83 [00:21] <clarjon1> shoulda backed it up before updating
#84 [00:21] <lostdemouse> Erm..theres a mod tht helps u get back
#85 [00:21] <xxtoxicbladesxx> I know its illegal but can i get one from minecraft
#86 [00:21] <needcraft> ive tried several versions of minecraft cuz im too cheap to buy it...none of them work...they are all sources that my friends currently use, so i know they should work
#87 [00:21] <lostdemouse> I forgot though...lemme check it out
#88 [00:21] <xxtoxicbladesxx> I am a member of minecraft
#89 [00:21] <xxtoxicbladesxx> Or
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#91 [00:21] <xxtoxicbladesxx> I have my save from 1.8.1
#92 [00:21] <rumpler> hello?
#93 [00:21] <clarjon1> ??> needcraft demo
#94 [00:21] <VoxelHead> needcraft: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#95 [00:21] <VoxelHead> needcraft: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#96 [00:21] <rumpler> help
#97 [00:21] <lostdemouse> needcraft: i have one that works but im using phone to chat lol
#98 [00:22] <clarjon1> ??> rumpler ask
#99 [00:22] <Wug> needcraft: whats your account name
#100 [00:22] <VoxelHead> rumpler: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#101 [00:22] <VoxelHead> rumpler: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#103 [00:22] <Wug> clarjon1: you got this? its 12:30 and I'm sleeeeeeeeeepy
#104 [00:22] <xxtoxicbladesxx> But i tried to install btw but it keeps saying failed t load kubelrudenr
#105 [00:22] <clarjon1> haha
#106 [00:22] <clarjon1> voxel just tried to mute you xD
#107 [00:22] <needcraft> IGotDemPupsInMe
#108 [00:22] <Wug> I'm used to it
#109 [00:22] <lostdemouse> Did u delete that folder
#110 [00:22] <rumpler> mine craft won't work before the game starts the sreen cuts to black or white after the load
#111 [00:23] <xxtoxicbladesxx> Me too
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#113 [00:23] <Wug> rumpler: stop leaving and coming back
#114 [00:23] <lostdemouse> WHY DOES EVErYOnE HAVE THE SAME PROB AHHhH
#115 [00:23] <rumpler> what?
#116 [00:23] <xxtoxicbladesxx> NO CAPS
#117 [00:23] <xxtoxicbladesxx> Brah
#118 [00:23] <rumpler> I'm not
#119 [00:23] <lynxxfrag> could be that there trying to use mods that are now outta date?
#120 [00:24] <rumpler> can you help?
#121 [00:24] <needcraft> no mods....
#122 [00:24] <lostdemouse> Erm...Wug do ur system info thing again
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#124 [00:24] <Wug> like I said
#125 [00:24] <Wug> stop leaving and coming back
#126 [00:24] <Wug> :dx
#127 [00:24] <WugBot> dx: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#128 [00:24] <WugBot> dx: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#129 [00:25] <rumpler> CAN YOU HELP!!!
#130 [00:25] <Wug> rumpler: follow those directions ^
#131 [00:25] <rumpler> ok
#132 [00:26] <needcraft> anythin i can do? account name is IGotDemPupsInMe...
#133 [00:26] <lynxxfrag> so any idea why my paid account is no longer a paid account?
#134 [00:26] <Wug> !paid IGotDemPupsInMe
#135 [00:27] <Wug> lynxxfrag: where did you get minecraft from
#136 [00:27] <needcraft> he has, but i have not....
#137 [00:27] <needcraft> and i dont have steam...
#138 [00:27] <Wug> needcraft: try the demo then
#139 [00:27] <Wug> you have that terrible intel chipset, right
#140 [00:27] <Wug> I think that was you
#141 [00:27] <rumpler> not working
#142 [00:27] <Wug> those things all suck
#143 [00:28] <Wug> :directions > rumpler
#144 [00:28] <WugBot> rumpler: (directions) Everything is explained in the directions. If you can't find it, look harder, its there somewhere. Just follow the directions and don't skip any steps.
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#146 [00:29] <lostdemouse> Eck i just lagged
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#148 [00:33] <needcraft> the demo works 0000.00000000
#149 [00:33] <lostdemouse> But only 1h30min
#150 [00:34] <needcraft> but it WORKS. minecraft wouldnt work any other time....why does it work with the demo??? :D
#151 [00:35] <rumpler> what do you mean by WIN+R keys
#152 [00:35] <rumpler> Wug
#153 [00:35] <Wug> :win/key
#154 [00:35] <WugBot> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#155 [00:35] <rumpler> oh thanks
#156 [00:38] <lostdemouse> Is kaplan the only one who replays to support mail?
#157 [00:39] <lostdemouse> *replys
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#159 [00:40] <needcraft> um...so...the demo works....how do i get normal minecraft to work? or will it work?
#160 [00:40] <rumpler> won't let me copy
#161 [00:40] <lostdemouse> Its prob the normal jar that doesnt work
#162 [00:41] <Wug> needcraft: you dont have an account, right?
#163 [00:41] <lostdemouse> Everyone else could
#164 [00:41] <needcraft> double click and copy it all rumpler
#165 [00:41] <Wug> rumpler: control+a
#166 [00:41] <Wug> then control+c
#167 [00:41] <lostdemouse> Usin pirate jars may not work
#168 [00:41] <Wug> this channel will have no piracy
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#170 [00:42] <needcraft> it works for eeverybody else though :'/
#171 [00:43] <lostdemouse> O.o i have no idea
#172 [00:44] <Wug> needcraft: I'm not going to share the tools we have until you have an account
#173 [00:44] <Wug> I'll see if they'll update the demo, then we can use that instead
#174 [00:44] <lostdemouse> Kaplan is on holiday...my minecraft acc is probably screwed
#175 [00:44] <Wug> lostdemouse: whats wrong with it
#176 [00:44] <lostdemouse> Bump
#177 [00:45] <rumpler> do I make it public cos I don't want everyone seeing it
#178 [00:45] <Wug> rumpler: nobody will see it without the link to it
#179 [00:45] <Wug> just submit it and send us the link
#180 [00:46] <lostdemouse> The purchase went through the bank but i havent got my premium..12 days since i bought, 5 days since i sent support mail
#181 [00:46] <needcraft> wug how are you going to help? i dont get it....
#182 [00:47] <lostdemouse> Considering minecon just finished and kaplan is on a vacation....i probably needa wait a month or si
#183 [00:47] <Wug> needcraft: until we have something we can work with, I'm not.
#184 [00:47] <Wug> lostdemouse: did you get a confirmation email
#185 [00:47] <needcraft> ok? o.o im all confuzzed....can i help you help me at all somehow?
#186 [00:47] <lostdemouse> God iphone is screwing up this irc
#187 [00:48] <lostdemouse> Wug: no
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#189 [00:48] <Wug> :payment/stopped > lostdemouse
#190 [00:48] <WugBot> lostdemouse: (payment/stopped) Banks, credit card companies, etc. frequently stop minecraft purchases for your protection because they are international transactions. You may have to call your financial institution and ask that they approve the transfer.
#191 [00:48] <WugBot> lostdemouse: (payment/stopped) If you're not sure what to say, tell them: "I would like to make an international purchase and payment is being declined. How would I go about approving the purchase?"
#192 [00:48] <rumpler> Paste.bin.com/7AJUF7V8
#193 [00:49] <lostdemouse> Bump
#194 [00:49] <rumpler> is that it?
#195 [00:49] <lostdemouse> Wug: the transaction already went through i called up
#196 [00:49] <rumpler> Wug?
#197 [00:50] <Wug> lostdemouse: if it had you would have gotten a confirmation email
#198 [00:50] <lostdemouse> .
#199 [00:51] <lostdemouse> Wug: but i didnt...thats why
#200 [00:51] <rumpler> Hello? Wug
#201 [00:51] <lostdemouse> Rumpler repost that pls
#202 [00:53] <rumpler> Pastebin.com/7AJUF7V8
#203 [00:53] <lostdemouse> Can u make the p small
#204 [00:54] <Wug> rumpler: hang on
#205 [00:54] <lostdemouse> Nvm
#206 [00:54] <rumpler> I'm a hangen
#207 [00:54] <Wug> lostdemouse: the confirmation email is sent on receiving payment
#208 [00:54] <Wug> if you didnt get it, money didnt get to mojang
#209 [00:55] <lostdemouse> Meh
#210 [00:56] <lostdemouse> Wug: thats what im suspecting cause i had a timeout at the end..but according to the bank the money went to mojang already..so i sent the support mail
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#212 [00:57] <shadowfanjj> hey um i need help
#213 [00:57] <rumpler> pastebin.com/7AJUF7V8
#214 [00:57] <lostdemouse> Pls state
#215 [00:57] <rumpler> what?
#216 [00:57] <shadowfanjj> huh?
#217 [00:58] <shadowfanjj> my minecraft keeps crashing i was told to come here
#218 [00:58] <rumpler> don't know what you mean
#219 [00:58] <lostdemouse> Erm...crash = not enough mem
#220 [00:58] <shadowfanjj> no
#221 [00:58] <shadowfanjj> won't load
#222 [00:58] <shadowfanjj> i think i fucked it up
#223 [00:58] * AuBot kicked shadowfanjj from #minecrafthelp (Reason: hadowfanjj :Please keep it civil.)
#224 [00:58] <lostdemouse> Close other stuff when u play mc
#225 [00:59] <Wug> rumpler: stand by
#226 [00:59] <lostdemouse> Did u installmods?
#227 [00:59] <rumpler> ok
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#229 [00:59] <shadowfanjj> yello
#230 [00:59] <shadowfanjj> im back
#231 [00:59] <lostdemouse> Try not to say f***
#232 [01:00] <shadowfanjj> right soz
#233 [01:00] <lostdemouse> As i was saying, close other stuff when u play mc
#234 [01:00] <shadowfanjj> anyway i got rid of alternate.npg on minecraft.jar so i can enchant with no symbols but now it won't load
#235 [01:01] <lostdemouse> Or wug could do the dx thing again...but u hotta wait...coz lotsa ppl need help
#236 [01:01] <shadowfanjj> right
#237 [01:01] <shadowfanjj> ok
#238 [01:01] <lostdemouse> Oh...then u probabaly screwed it up...backup ur worlds and delete .minecraft
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#240 [01:02] <shadowfanjj> nah don't need to back up i don't care bout my worlds
#241 [01:02] <lostdemouse> Force update and see if it works
#242 [01:02] <shadowfanjj> but ok
#243 [01:02] <shadowfanjj> and also im at full update
#244 [01:02] <shadowfanjj> ok right see ya
#245 [01:02] <shadowfanjj> thnx for help
#246 [01:03] <rumpler> ...
#247 [01:04] <rumpler> wheres Wug?
#248 [01:04] <rumpler> I hope I can play minecraft soon
#249 [01:04] <lostdemouse> Chill...if u need help be patient..go do some other thing
#250 [01:04] <Wug> rumpler: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/radeon-prer300-xp.aspx
#251 [01:05] <Wug> I just got opped in #minecraft :o
#252 [01:05] <rumpler> so will this play minecraft?
#253 [01:06] <rumpler> downloading now
#254 [01:07] <rumpler> 1 min please
#255 [01:07] <lostdemouse> Wug: they acknowledged ur hardwork lol
#256 [01:07] <Wug> rumpler: it might work
#257 [01:08] <Wug> but it will hopefully run after you install it
#258 [01:08] <rumpler> might?
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#260 [01:08] <Wug> its possible that it won't fix it
#261 [01:08] <lostdemouse> Considering we are not looking at ur com we have
#262 [01:08] <Wug> your graphics card is really old
#263 [01:08] <rumpler> old computer
#264 [01:09] <Wug> lostdemouse: I have his dxdiag which is, for all intents and purposes, just as good
#265 [01:09] <Wug> brb letting dog out
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#267 [01:11] <lostdemouse_> Meh
#268 [01:12] <lostdemouse_> Oh the lag
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#270 [01:13] <lostdemouse> Sorry about that
#271 [01:13] <rumpler> Installing now
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#273 [01:13] <rumpler> I'll be back when it finishes
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#276 [01:17] <gunther> for some reason i cant start minecraft, ive bought it and installed it but it says error everytime
#277 [01:18] <lostdemouse> What kind of error
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#280 [01:19] <MicroColon> I'm on a Macbook and Mc seems to no longer work. Java up to date, no mods.
#281 [01:20] <lostdemouse> Did u update to 1.0.0?
#282 [01:21] <MicroColon> Yup.
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#284 [01:21] <MicroColon> Even after force update it gets stuck at "Done Loading"
#285 [01:22] <lostdemouse> I think 1.0.0 is a little buggy a state atthe top...u might wanna go back to 1.8.1
#286 [01:23] <MicroColon> No this was even happening in 1.8.
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#289 [01:23] <lostdemouse> Oh o.o tried deleting .minecraft folder?
#290 [01:24] <MicroColon> Yes, tried all of that.
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#292 [01:24] <MicroColon> On macs its just minecraft folder.
#293 [01:24] <MicroColon> no dot
#294 [01:25] <lostdemouse> Oh ok...maybe u might wanna delete ur lanunvher and get a new copy from minecraft.net
#295 [01:25] <MicroColon> Tried it. Seriously, I don't know whats going on.
#296 [01:26] <lostdemouse> Launcher
#297 [01:26] <wp913> Hope I'm not interrupting... Does anyone have a fix for the "invalid server key" issue?
#298 [01:27] <MicroColon> There's a mod I think, if you're not deathly afraid of them as I am.
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#300 [01:28] <rumpler> ok must restart see ya
#301 [01:28] <rumpler> Thanks
#302 [01:29] <lostdemouse> Meh o.o macs...u might wanna get Wug
#303 [01:29] <Wug> I'm hopeless with macs
#304 [01:29] <Wug> wp913: restart the client
#305 [01:29] <MicroColon> Yeah I also have a Pc where Mc works perfectly. But...yeah.
#306 [01:29] <Wug> it will go away
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#308 [01:29] <lostdemouse> Oh o.o all i use is windows...
#309 [01:30] <wp913> OK, I'll give it a try.
#310 [01:30] <Wug> MicroColon: do you know your way around the terminal
#311 [01:30] <MicroColon> A little.
#312 [01:30] <lostdemouse> Then its ur mac prob...maye its the java..tru reinstalling
#313 [01:30] <Wug> you cant reinstall java on a mac
#314 [01:30] <Wug> its a huge pain
#315 [01:30] <MicroColon> lostdemouse:Reinstall Mac OSX?!
#316 [01:30] <Wug> anywhoo.
#317 [01:31] <Wug> MicroColon: grab the linux client:
#318 [01:31] <Wug> :client
#319 [01:31] <WugBot> client: You can download the client by clicking the correct link: (For Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe ) (For Linux: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar ) (For OSX: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip )
#320 [01:31] <lostdemouse> But usually if u go javas webby the client allows u to reinstall ithought?
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#322 [01:31] <Wug> launch it from the terminal
#323 [01:31] <Wug> cd to the correct directory
#324 [01:31] <Wug> then use "java -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#325 [01:31] <lostdemouse> Does mac even jave the cd stuff o.o
#326 [01:31] <Wug> it does
#327 [01:32] <Wug> cd is, as far as I know, universal
#328 [01:32] <lostdemouse> Maybe when java updated it screwed the cd then
#329 [01:33] <MicroColon> Thought it was going to work, then it got stuck at Mojang Splash
#330 [01:34] <lostdemouse> Restarting ur com always does some good?
#331 [01:35] <Jovet> Wug: why are you hopeless with Macs?
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#333 [01:35] <Wug> I cant figure out how to switch windows on the damn things
#334 [01:35] <Jovet> Click. :P
#335 [01:35] <lostdemouse> 3 finger swipe or sth
#336 [01:35] <Wug> once I find a terminal I can just kill the x server and then its just uniz
#337 [01:35] <MicroColon> If its a macbook, slide 4 fingers down on the trackpad.
#338 [01:35] <AlphaDetisMegas> maybe cause mac is a bashed together linux clone?
#339 [01:35] <Wug> unix*
#340 [01:36] <AlphaDetisMegas> whoops ,yeah
#341 [01:36] <Jovet> nah Macs were made for clicking. Ask Steve Jobs. :)
#342 [01:36] <AlphaDetisMegas> Jovet: HE's dead, bro
#343 [01:38] <Jovet> he is???
#344 [01:38] <MicroColon> But so no one knows the answer to my riddle?
#345 [01:38] <|Kiikun|> Jovet: you seriously didnt know? :P
#346 [01:38] <Jovet> :) Sick of hearing about it for a while there, even.
#347 [01:38] <Jovet> What's your riddle MicroColon? Stuck at the splash screen?
#348 [01:39] <MicroColon> Yes.
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#350 [01:40] <Jovet> I am not gonna touch that one.
#351 [01:40] <MicroColon> Stuck there for about 30 seconds, then crash.
#352 [01:40] <Jovet> I'd look for a hs_err_pdl file from the crash, and pastebin.com it
#353 [01:40] <lostdemouse> Mmmm...its still ur mac i guess...i dun have mac so i have no odea
#354 [01:41] <MicroColon> Anyone know where those go on a mac?
#355 [01:41] <MicroColon> error reports that is?
#356 [01:41] <Wug> MicroColon: did you run it from the console
#357 [01:41] <Jovet> MicroColon of course I'm assming that the mac VM generates tem
#358 [01:41] <Jovet> them
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#360 [01:41] <lostdemouse> Those stuff usually appear at the desktop
#361 [01:41] <MicroColon> Yes. Same thing.
#362 [01:41] <Wug> MicroColon: sliding fingers down the trackpad is really hard over teamviewer -.-
#363 [01:41] <Jovet> They are generated in the same directory that the .jar is
#364 [01:41] <Wug> as is accessing the dock -.-
#365 [01:42] <Jovet> Wug: that sounds disgusting
#366 [01:42] <Wug> if you don't get your mouse on the one frigging pixel it will not open
#367 [01:42] <MicroColon> lostdemouse:Crap. That's where about 10,000 memes are.
#368 [01:42] <lostdemouse> O.o seriously
#369 [01:42] <Wug> MicroColon: did you get error messages on the console when you ran it
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#371 [01:42] <|Kiichan|Schala|> its over 9000! seriously!
#372 [01:43] <MicroColon> No. Which is weird.
#373 [01:43] * |Kiichan|Schala| shoots self
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#374 [01:43] <Wug> it just crashes?
#375 [01:43] <mr_trousers> hello?
#376 [01:43] <lostdemouse> Wug: ive crashed without error messages before
#377 [01:43] <MicroColon> Yeah, just closes itself basically.
#378 [01:43] <MicroColon> basicly? idk
#379 [01:43] <lostdemouse> Hi?
#380 [01:43] <Wug> lostdemouse: probably java crashes as opposed to minecraft ones
#381 [01:43] <lostdemouse> .
#382 [01:43] <Wug> minecraft crashes will almost always drop a stack trace
#383 [01:44] <mr_trousers> hello?
#384 [01:44] <lostdemouse> Usuallly only java crashes has error messages
#385 [01:44] <Wug> and by that I mean there are many that always do and possibly a few that never do.
#386 [01:44] <MicroColon> Yeah, had experience with that on Pc when modding.
#387 [01:44] <lostdemouse> For meh
#388 [01:44] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ??> mr_trousers ask
#389 [01:44] <VoxelHead> mr_trousers: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#390 [01:44] <VoxelHead> mr_trousers: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#391 [01:44] <Wug> lostdemouse: thats why I made him run it from console, because you see error output that is otherwise hidden
#392 [01:45] <mr_trousers> my controls are screwed up, the mouse wheel (third button just has question marks so it sets it to button 1
#393 [01:45] <Jovet> it's not hidden, it just goes to the bit bucket. eh
#394 [01:45] <lostdemouse> Ircircirc
#395 [01:45] <Wug> mr_trousers: go to controls and reset them to whatever you want
#396 [01:45] <mr_trousers> how do i reset them
#397 [01:45] <Wug> click the button and push the button you want
#398 [01:45] <|Kiichan|Schala|> mr_trousers: delete options.txt to reset everythign to default
#399 [01:46] <mr_trousers> i want the mouse wheel but it doesnt let me choose it
#400 [01:46] <MicroColon> Okay, it works in the browser but not in the launcher.
#401 [01:46] <|Kiichan|Schala|> mr_trousers: mouse wheel defaults to changing the selected slot on your bar
#402 [01:46] <lostdemouse> O.o i dun think u can use mousewheel for stuff
#403 [01:47] <Jovet> the mousewheel is a button on most mice, click it.
#404 [01:47] <|Kiichan|Schala|> mr_trousers: to get the wheel to do something else you have to get windows to treat 'scroll up' and 'scroll down' as actual keys in the mouse properties control panel.
#405 [01:48] <|Kiichan|Schala|> mr_trousers: also.. middleclick on ms mice likes to default to the fancy scroll thing <.< have to set it middle click
#406 [01:48] <lostdemouse> Is ther e any irc app for iphone??
#407 [01:49] <|Kiichan|Schala|> lostdemouse: probably but they also probably suck more balls than a vacume on an infomercial...
#408 [01:49] <Jovet> if there isn't I'll eat my sock.
#409 [01:49] <MicroColon> lostdemouse: Doesn't run from the browser? Works on ipad for me.
#410 [01:50] <lostdemouse> Meh
#411 [01:50] <mr_trousers> i have a wireless mouse so i cant get properties for it :(
#412 [01:50] <mr_trousers> by logitec
#413 [01:50] <|Kiichan|Schala|> mr_trousers: my sidewinder x8 is wireless too.
#414 [01:50] <lostdemouse> Im runnin on the browser but it gets stuck sometimes so i type stuff like meh
#415 [01:51] <mr_trousers> well i go to my devices and it doesnt let me change anything
#416 [01:51] <Jovet> mr_trousers: it'd be easier/faster to just press Windows+R, enter: %appdata%, dbl-click the ".minecraft" folder, find the options.txt file, and then delete it (After closing Minecraft)
#417 [01:53] <mr_trousers> i cant find options.txt file
#418 [01:53] <|Kiichan|Schala|> mr_trousers: i find it highly unlikely that you dont have a mouse propertied co ntrol panel.
#419 [01:53] <|Kiichan|Schala|> hah! found it
#420 [01:54] <|Kiichan|Schala|> mr_trousers: win+r main.cpl
#421 [01:54] <mr_trousers> ?
#422 [01:54] <lostdemouse> Open ur control panel o.o
#423 [01:54] <Jovet> mr_trousers: did you follow the other directions? did you bring up the view of the .minecraft folder?
#424 [01:54] <mr_trousers> yeah
#425 [01:55] <lostdemouse> Wait i think we are confusing h
#426 [01:55] <mr_trousers> i have a bin folder
#427 [01:55] <lostdemouse> So do u wanna reset all ur controls or change it to mousewheel
#428 [01:56] <mr_trousers> resources
#429 [01:56] <Jovet> options.txt should be right there in the .minecraft folder
#430 [01:56] <Jovet> it might just say "options" if you have extensions hidden.
#431 [01:56] <mr_trousers> mousewheel, but i should reset all because it wont let me choose mousewheel
#432 [01:57] <mr_trousers> yeah, it says option and then a notepad opens up
#433 [01:57] <Jovet> and the only way to "reset all" is by deleting the options.txt file as Kiichan suggested.
#434 [01:57] <Jovet> that's the file. close Notepad, and delete the file.
#435 [01:57] <mr_trousers> alright, so delete options
#436 [01:57] <Jovet> close Minecraft first if you stil have it running.
#437 [01:57] <lostdemouse> Delete that and then open minecraft
#438 [01:58] <mr_trousers> alright
#439 [01:58] <mr_trousers> it worked, thankyou very much
#440 [01:59] <|Kiichan|Schala|> mr_trousers: now just fix all your other settings :P
#441 [01:59] <mr_trousers> alright, thanks
#442 [01:59] <Jovet> most people don't change that much
#443 [01:59] <|Kiichan|Schala|> i thought he was trying to bind something to middleclick
#444 [01:59] <lostdemouse> Go control panel
#445 [01:59] * |Kiichan|Schala| changes volume and gama
#445 [01:59] <Jovet> he was trying to get the scroll wheel to work
#446 [01:59] <lostdemouse> O.o
#447 [01:59] <Jovet> gamma? cheater! lol
#448 [02:00] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Jovet: byte me. my screen is stupid bright and isnt for MY benefir anyway :P
#449 [02:00] <Jovet> sounded like his assignments were all messed up. MC really could use a Reset command on that panel.
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#451 [02:00] <Jovet> om nom nom
#452 [02:00] <lostdemouse> Any of u sen in support mail before?
#453 [02:01] * |Kiichan|Schala| hasnt!
#453 [02:01] <Jovet> can't say I have.
#454 [02:01] <Jovet> why?
#455 [02:01] <lostdemouse> I havent got premium after 13 days
#456 [02:01] * |Kiichan|Schala| also hasnt seen many reports that CANT be solved in here... or get you smacked upside the head for using mods stupidly.
#456 [02:02] <Jovet> lostdemouse: you bought minecraft 13 days ago?
#457 [02:02] <lostdemouse> Yes
#458 [02:02] <lostdemouse> I sent in the support 5 days ago
#459 [02:02] <Jovet> lostdemouse: did you get an email confirming your purchase? have the funds been withdrawn?
#460 [02:02] <|Kiichan|Schala|> lostdemouse: did payemnt get taken from your account? and got confirmation email from moneybookers/paypal?
#461 [02:02] <lostdemouse> Kaplan is on a holiday so its gonna be a long wait
#462 [02:03] <lostdemouse> Mmy bank sys it went through
#463 [02:03] <lostdemouse> No email from mojang though
#464 [02:03] <|Kiichan|Schala|> no email from moneybookers/paypal?
#465 [02:04] <Jovet> checked Spam filters/folders?
#466 [02:04] <lostdemouse> That im not sure...but if my banks says it went through...
#467 [02:05] <|Kiichan|Schala|> also made sure you didnt accidently buy a git code? :P
#468 [02:05] <lostdemouse> If bank went through and not moneybookers means im screwed?
#469 [02:05] <|Kiichan|Schala|> !paid scudam
#470 [02:05] <lostdemouse> Im very sure i didnt...
#471 [02:05] * |Kiichan|Schala| cackles!
#471 [02:05] <lostdemouse> !paid lostdemouse
#472 [02:06] <lostdemouse> D:
#473 [02:06] <|Kiichan|Schala|> scudam is my friends usual screenname :P
#474 [02:06] <|Kiichan|Schala|> gave him a gift code
#475 [02:06] * |Kiichan|Schala| will make the engineer a minecraft addict!
#475 [02:06] <lostdemouse> I paid but no mc accout D:
#476 [02:07] <Jovet> lostdemouse: it will go through eventually
#477 [02:07] <|Kiichan|Schala|> lostdemouse: it might be moneybookers sitting on the payment for some reason
#478 [02:07] <lostdemouse> Meh
#479 [02:07] <Jovet> lostdemouse: Mojang's support system is a bit clogged and inefficient at the moment but they will get back to you eventually.
#480 [02:08] <Jovet> sorry all we can say is "be moar patient" but that's about all 'ya can do at this point
#481 [02:08] <|Kiichan|Schala|> thats why we are here :P we try and limit the 'zomg! my boat broke! fix it!' stuff :P
#482 [02:08] <lostdemouse> Kaplan is on a holiday..i would probably get the reply a tear later
#483 [02:09] <lostdemouse> But i had a timeout which probabaly meant the bank sent the moneh but they took it without giving me my acc
#484 [02:09] <lostdemouse> O.o which i hope not
#485 [02:09] <gunther> sorry i meant it doesnt log in
#486 [02:10] <gunther> and on the website it no longer says 'buy it'
#487 [02:10] <|Kiichan|Schala|> lostdemouse: try seeing if theres a support num for moneybookers?
#488 [02:10] <lostdemouse> Meh!
#489 [02:10] <|Kiichan|Schala|> gunther: buh?
#490 [02:11] <lostdemouse> O.o ok maybe i will try that
#491 [02:13] <lostdemouse> But its 2 weeks ago i have no idea if the possible mail is still there...eck
#492 [02:13] <|Kiichan|Schala|> probably not if it was in spam....
#493 [02:13] <Jovet> you should save emails for purchases, lostdemouse!
#494 [02:13] <|Kiichan|Schala|> then gaain doesnt spam sit for 30 days?
#495 [02:13] * |Kiichan|Schala| didnt for his purchase... but has for the gift codes :D
#495 [02:14] <lostdemouse> O.o lets hope hotmail wasnt a fah
#496 [02:14] <lostdemouse> O.o
#497 [02:14] <lostdemouse> Fag
#498 [02:14] * AuBot kicked lostdemouse from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ostdemouse :Please keep it civil.)
#499 [02:14] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ew. slutmail
#500 [02:14] <Jovet> I mean any online purchase, not just Minecraft.
#501 [02:14] <|Kiichan|Schala|> lol... i didnt get kicked
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#503 [02:15] <Jovet> why is that word bad? everyone knows it means cigarette
#504 [02:15] <|Kiichan|Schala|> lostdemouse: aubot kicks on swears :P
#505 [02:15] <lostdemouse> Now i noe i cant say fa* mm
#506 [02:15] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Jovet: or a bundle of wood.
#507 [02:15] <Jovet> isn't that a cord? :P
#508 [02:16] <lostdemouse> I didnt mean gay or sth i.o
#509 [02:16] <lostdemouse> And they accept gay...wow
#510 [02:16] <Wug> aubot is a bot
#511 [02:16] <Wug> and typically people use that word in the derogatory manner
#512 [02:16] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Jovet: or the boy in eruopean boy schools who has to CARRY the bundle... because he's lowest rung... and the place is full od horny pervs... with no girls for miles :P
#513 [02:16] <Wug> so it autokicks
#514 [02:16] <lostdemouse> Gay probably means jappy here
#515 [02:17] <lostdemouse> Happy
#516 [02:17] <lostdemouse> Meh
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#518 [02:17] <|Kiichan|Schala|> how about queer? i like the word queer. its a fairly queer word.. much like esoteric is esoteric :D
#519 [02:17] <Jovet> well, being one, the word has never bothered me. hah
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#521 [02:18] <lostdemouse> Who wants to try other words!
#522 [02:18] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Jovet: then you have the new guy at my job who has a stick shoved so far up his ass because 'his uncle is gay'
#523 [02:18] <lostdemouse> I saw some guy get banned when he checked if notch bought an acc o.oo
#524 [02:18] <|Kiichan|Schala|> !paid notch
#525 [02:18] * AuBot kicked |Kiichan|Schala| from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Kiichan|Schala| :notch has paid for Minecraft!)
#526 [02:18] * |Kiichan|Schala| [|Kiichan|Schala|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#527 [02:18] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :P
#528 [02:18] <AndrewPH> !paid ez
#529 [02:18] <lostdemouse> LoL
#530 [02:19] <AndrewPH> -fight da powa-
#531 [02:19] <|Kiichan|Schala|> !paid mollstam
#532 [02:19] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :P
#533 [02:19] <Wug> !paid boobs
#534 [02:19] <Wug> :(
#535 [02:19] <AndrewPH> !paid zomby
#536 [02:19] <Wug> !paid a
#537 [02:19] <lostdemouse> !paid jeb_
#538 [02:19] <Wug> !paid a
#539 [02:19] <AndrewPH> would you look at that some idiot named zomby paid for it
#540 [02:20] <AndrewPH> !paid BananaBot
#541 [02:20] <|Kiichan|Schala|> !paid yahtzee
#542 [02:20] <Wug> AndrewPH: are you surprised
#543 [02:20] <Wug> !paid wugbot
#544 [02:20] <Wug> >.>
#545 [02:20] <AndrewPH> wug our bots are premium
#546 [02:20] <AndrewPH> THEY SHOULD MATE
#547 [02:20] <|Kiichan|Schala|> lol
#548 [02:20] <Wug> ;act bangs bananabot
#549 [02:20] * WugBot bangs bananabot
#549 [02:20] <AndrewPH> bananabot's not in here
#550 [02:20] <Jovet> so much for PG-13
#551 [02:20] <Wug> ;tell bananabot we should mate
#552 [02:20] <lostdemouse> :act hi
#553 [02:20] <|Kiichan|Schala|> AndrewPH: thats what the hole in the wall over there is for :P
#554 [02:21] <AndrewPH> [23:19] (QUERY) {WugBot} we should mate
#555 [02:21] <lostdemouse> O.0 how u do that
#556 [02:21] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ;hug lostdemouse
#557 [02:21] * WugBot hugs lostdemouse
#557 [02:21] <|Kiichan|Schala|> because wugbot lurvs us? :P
#558 [02:21] <lostdemouse> Meh
#559 [02:21] * Wug ;nick HugBot
#559 [02:21] <|Kiichan|Schala|> rofl
#560 [02:22] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ;bicycle
#561 [02:22] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :P
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#563 [02:22] <lostdemouse> ;hug WugBot
#564 [02:22] <Wug> ;hug wugbot
#565 [02:22] * WugBot hugs wugbot
#565 [02:22] <lostdemouse> Meh
#566 [02:22] <Wug> ;command hug
#567 [02:22] <WugBot> Command hug has userlevel requirement 0.
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#569 [02:22] * Wug ???
#569 [02:22] <Wug> ;account lostdemouse
#570 [02:22] <WugBot> lostdemouse is not logged in.
#571 [02:23] <Jovet> you guys drove it insane. good job.
#572 [02:23] <Wug> maybe it doesnt let you use commands if you're not logged in
#573 [02:23] <Wug> it should, its supposed t
#574 [02:23] <Wug> maybe I changed it and forgot -.-
#575 [02:23] <|Kiichan|Schala|> lol... so you need a regged nick to use wugbot
#576 [02:23] * |Kiichan|Schala| checks!
#576 [02:23] <Wug> you didnt used to
#577 [02:24] <lostdemouse> Meh
#578 [02:24] <Wug> I'll fix it later
#579 [02:24] <Jovet> as long as the ;kill * humans command works, we're fine.
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#581 [02:24] <narfle> ;hug the world!
#582 [02:24] <lostdemouse> Moneybookers email is probably gone...im screwed
#583 [02:24] <Wug> ;alias check kill
#584 [02:24] <WugBot> No alias exists by that name.
#585 [02:24] <Wug> ;alias new kill
#586 [02:24] <WugBot> Blank alias kill created.
#587 [02:25] <narfle> o.o;
#588 [02:25] <Wug> ;alias add kill raw KILL %0 &1
#589 [02:25] <mib_bblet> ;kill
#590 [02:25] <mib_bblet> ;kill the furbie!
#591 [02:25] <Wug> ;command kill
#592 [02:25] <WugBot> Command kill has userlevel requirement -1.
#593 [02:25] <Wug> -1 is owner only
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#595 [02:25] <mib_bblet> aws....
#596 [02:26] <Wug> lol its a mibbit
#597 [02:26] * Wug pokes the little mibbit
#597 [02:26] * mib_bblet rawrs!
#597 [02:26] <Wug> you're supposed to say "*mibbit*"
#598 [02:26] <lostdemouse> !paid xxslyxx
#599 [02:27] <mib_bblet> mibbit?
#600 [02:27] <mib_bblet> mibbit mib mib bbbit!
#601 [02:27] <Wug> its the sound a mibbit makes
#602 [02:27] <Wug> lol mibbit is a pokemon
#603 [02:27] <lostdemouse> !paid paragonnove
#604 [02:27] <lostdemouse> Opps
#605 [02:28] <mib_bblet> !paid notch
#606 [02:28] * AuBot kicked mib_bblet from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_bblet :notch has paid for Minecraft!)
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#608 [02:28] <mib_bblet> mib!!!
#609 [02:28] * x [x@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#610 [02:29] <mib_bblet> .... herpes....
#611 [02:29] * mib_bblet runs from x
#611 [02:29] <Wug> well, its 2:30 and this is getting weird
#612 [02:29] <Wug> since nobody seems to be having actual minecraft issues >.>
#613 [02:30] <mib_bblet> nope :P
#614 [02:30] <Wug> I think I'm going to gtf to bed
#615 [02:30] <Jovet> lies
#616 [02:30] <mib_bblet> mibb!!!!!
#617 [02:30] <mib_bblet> :D
#618 [02:30] <lostdemouse> Issit possible that i can go to moneybookers and check the transactiom
#619 [02:31] <Wug> afaik, no
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#622 [02:32] <lostdemouse> ??
#623 [02:32] <Jovet> AFAIK = As Far As I Know
#624 [02:32] <Wug> ;mch/stats
#625 [02:33] <Wug> :mch/stats
#626 [02:33] <WugBot> mch/stats: http://statistics.minecraftirc.net/minecrafthelp.html
#627 [02:34] <lostdemouse> Oh....so shd i wait for reply or cancel tje transaction and start a new one
#628 [02:34] <Jovet> I'd just wait.
#629 [02:34] <Wug> whoo! I've been kicked the most from this channel
#630 [02:34] <Jovet> don't start a new one or you could be back at square one, same for cancelling
#631 [02:34] * |Kiichan|Schala| ressists helping wug keep his kick-crown
#631 [02:35] <Wug> ;kick wug IM WINNING
#632 [02:35] * WugBot kicked Wug from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ug :IM WINNING)
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#634 [02:35] * WugBot kicked Wug from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ug :Kicked by |Kiichan|Schala|) (im helping!)
#635 [02:35] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :P
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#637 [02:35] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :P
#638 [02:35] <Wug> this also just in
#639 [02:35] <Wug> GreyVulpine overuses /me
#640 [02:36] <Wug> and also gets slapped a lot
#641 [02:36] <Wug> who would do that -.-
#642 [02:36] <lostdemouse> Meh...D:
#643 [02:36] * Wug slaps voxelhead because he's a derp
#643 [02:36] * |Kiichan|Schala| slaps GreyVulpine with a paterity suit
#643 [02:36] * Wug slaps voxelhead because he's a troll
#643 [02:36] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :P
#644 [02:36] * Wug slaps voxelhead because he's a babby
#644 [02:36] * Wug slaps voxelhead because he's a bot
#644 [02:36] * lostdemouse sad
#644 [02:36] <Jovet> LOL @ Kiichan
#645 [02:37] * Wug slaps voxelhead with a box
#645 [02:37] <|Kiichan|Schala|> oh wait.. i AM chan... rofl... that just makes it funnier XD
#646 [02:37] * Wug slaps voxelhead with some socks
#646 [02:37] <Jovet> I thought you were a guy, Kiichan
#647 [02:37] * Wug slaps voxelhead on a train
#647 [02:37] * Wug slaps voxelhead in a plane
#647 [02:37] <Jovet> oh hah I'm real awake
#648 [02:37] * Wug slaps voxelhead in a house
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#649 [02:37] * Wug slaps voxelhead with a mouse
#649 [02:37] <Jovet> man I hate this keyboard. grrrrrr
#650 [02:38] * Wug slaps voxelhead with every other thing dr. seuss has ever said
#650 [02:38] * |Kiikun|Janus| slaps wug with green eggs and ham'
#650 [02:38] <lostdemouse> Sleepy people go crazy
#651 [02:38] * Wug slaps voxelhead with terrible movies
#651 [02:38] * Wug slaps voxelhead with ugly ties
#651 [02:38] * Wug slaps voxelhead with annoying in laws
#651 [02:38] * Jovet isn't afraid to use /ignore
#651 [02:38] * clarjon1 slaps VoxelHead with ants
#651 [02:38] * clarjon1 slaps VoxelHead with Wooster
#651 [02:38] * clarjon1 slaps VoxelHead with a trumpet
#651 [02:38] <Wug> lol pwnt
#652 [02:38] <Wug> I think I'm done now
#653 [02:38] * clarjon1 slaps VoxelHead with a partial solar eclipse
#653 [02:38] <|Kiikun|Janus|> night wuggler
#654 [02:38] <clarjon1> WHY
#655 [02:39] <clarjon1> is it only doing one slap at a time
#656 [02:39] * clarjon1 repeatedly slaps clarjon1's slapscript with a shampoo bottle and then a pair of scissors
#656 [02:39] <clarjon1> there we go
#657 [02:39] * clarjon1 repeatedly slaps VoxelHead with a ceiling fan blade and then bamboo stilts
#657 [02:39] <clarjon1> hehe
#658 [02:39] * |Kiikun|Janus| slaps VoxelHead with an antimatter glove!
#658 [02:39] * Wug watches the statistics and waits for them to update
#658 [02:40] * Wug slaps VoxelHead with mac osx
#658 [02:40] * Jovet thinks you all need girlfriends or something.
#658 [02:40] * Wug slaps VoxelHead with java 1.4
#658 [02:40] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ouch
#659 [02:40] * Wug slaps VoxelHead with teamviewer
#659 [02:40] * |Kiikun|Janus| has a girlfriend :P
#659 [02:40] * Wug slaps VoxelHead with myspace
#659 [02:40] * Wug slaps VoxelHead with |Kiikun|Janus|'s girlfriend
#659 [02:40] <Jovet> (pictures or it isn't true)
#660 [02:40] <|Kiikun|Janus|> no.. friendster
#661 [02:41] * Wug slaps VoxelHead with a frying pan
#661 [02:41] <Wug> *whop*
#662 [02:41] <|Kiikun|Janus|> eh.. i link enough stuff it can be found :P
#663 [02:41] <Wug> its like its ignoring out voxelhead slaps -,-
#664 [02:41] * Wug slaps VoxelHead for slap evasion
#664 [02:42] <Wug> on the upside, I overtook graversimen as the second most frequently slapped person
#665 [02:42] <Wug> despite the pummeling we just gave vox
#666 [02:43] <|Kiikun|Janus|> lol
#667 [02:43] * |Kiikun|Janus| slaps wug with monofilament wire
#667 [02:44] * Wug slaps wug with a thought
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#669 [02:45] * |Kiikun|Janus| slaps wug with sleeping pills
#669 [02:45] * Wug zzzzzzzzz
#669 [02:45] <Jovet> monofilament wire? is that like a magnetic monopole? hah
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#672 [02:45] <Wug> I dont think science has managed to create a magnetic monopole yet
#673 [02:45] <Jovet> and never will
#674 [02:45] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Jovet: no.. think wire enchanted with Keen
#675 [02:46] <Wug> ooo everyone slap me
#676 [02:46] <Jovet> nah you likeit too much, it's kinda creepy ;)
#677 [02:46] <Wug> Ill overtake gravy with 2 more slaps
#678 [02:46] * |Kiikun|Janus| slaps wug with a materity suit
#678 [02:46] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :P
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#680 [02:46] <Wug> ;act slaps wug because he told me to
#681 [02:46] * WugBot slaps wug because he told me to
#681 [02:46] * |Kiikun|Janus| slaps wug with the World's Smallest Nuclear Explosion
#681 [02:47] <Jovet> oh a cold fusion module?
#682 [02:47] * clarjon1 repeatedly slaps Wug with plains, trains, and automobiles and then a box of 248 crayons that are half used
#682 [02:47] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Jovet: google MDK
#683 [02:49] <Jovet> Inquiry: Why are all the Wikipedia people severely creepy looking?
#684 [02:49] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Speculation: They spend too much time analysing other peoples things?
#685 [02:50] <Jovet> I am beginning ot think it's more a "I don't want to be pictured here, go away" stare of death.
#686 [02:51] <lostdemouse> Erm when u say the confirmation from moneybookers did it ask u to make a acc!
#687 [02:51] <Jovet> in English
#688 [02:51] <|Kiikun|Janus|> you dont need to make an account if your doing credit/debit... but i think you have to for check
#689 [02:52] * Wug slaps Wug around a bit with a large Wug
#689 [02:52] <lostdemouse> I used credit but i think i didnt get the moneybookers mail( probably disappeared)
#690 [02:53] * |Kiikun|Janus| slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug slaps Wug
#690 [02:53] <lostdemouse> Whats in the mail..as in what does it say
#691 [02:53] * |Kiikun|Janus| open gmail
#691 [02:53] <Jovet> I sure hope that doesn't actually affect the stats
#692 [02:53] * Wug is recursively slapped
#692 [02:54] * |Kiikun|Janus| wonders why more placens cant use pub-key for login ;_;
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#693 [02:56] <Wug> well I'm going to bed
#694 [02:56] * Jovet - skeptical look.
#694 [02:57] <|Kiikun|Janus|> http://pastebin.com/D6MdjFHH
#695 [02:57] <Jovet> looks fraudulent to me. good job Kiikun.
#696 [02:58] <|Kiikun|Janus|> the redacteds? :P
#697 [02:58] <lostdemouse> But if i get chraged by my bank but didnt see this what shd i do
#698 [02:58] <lostdemouse> If i get charged it probably went through.......right?
#699 [02:59] <|Kiikun|Janus|> lostdemouse: if the money was taken then you should have gotten that email.
#700 [03:00] <Jovet> doesn't the site say, when you buy the game, that you'll get an email about it?
#701 [03:01] <lostdemouse> But i didnt get mail from mojang...so they took my monry and ran away with it?
#702 [03:01] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Jovet: this one http://pastebin.com/dvJ7qTuY
#703 [03:01] <Wug> Poor Wug, nobody likes him/her. He/She was attacked 17 times. For example, like this: * Wug slaps Wug around a bit with a large Wug
#704 [03:01] <|Kiikun|Janus|> lostdemouse: that means the money didnt make it to mojang
#705 [03:01] * |Kiikun|Janus| slaps wug for being a little beetch. :P
#705 [03:01] <lostdemouse> That mean moneybookers stole my moneh? Meh
#706 [03:01] * Wug slaps self, is slapped by self, and is used to slap self
#706 [03:02] <Jovet> no, I mean doesn't it tell you to expect/look for one? :P
#707 [03:02] * |Kiikun|Janus| slaps wug in a padded cell to protect himself from himself.
#707 [03:02] <lostdemouse> Considering i timed out at the end?? No
#708 [03:02] <Wug> I'm too late! I CANNOT ESCAPE MY WRATH
#709 [03:03] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Wug: go to sleep already.
#710 [03:03] <Wug> fine
#711 [03:03] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :P
#712 [03:03] * Wug /quit
#712 [03:03] * |Kiikun|Janus| does too
#712 [03:04] <|Kiikun|Janus|> lostdemouse: purchase a gift code. let that go throguh, chargeback the first payment and use the GC to activate the account?
#713 [03:04] <lostdemouse> Eh
#714 [03:05] <lostdemouse> I shall just cancel the previous transaction i guess
#715 [03:06] <Jovet> if it's gone through you can't really cancel it
#716 [03:06] <Jovet> you'd have to try a chargeback or something
#717 [03:09] <lostdemouse> I can get a refund thats what they said
#718 [03:11] <|Kiikun|Janus|> you cant get a refund for the game not working. this is payment related i nsuch they never recieved it.
#719 [03:11] <|Kiikun|Janus|> having your bank initiae a chargeback will return your money to you
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#721 [03:13] <lostdemouse> Yea..im now checking if its to mojangab or moneybooker
#722 [03:13] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mine said both names :P
#723 [03:14] <lostdemouse> Ehhhh
#724 [03:14] <Jovet> moneybooker is just the agent. the money goes directly from your bank to Mojang through them.
#725 [03:14] <lostdemouse> ....so as long as i dodnt receive mail from mojang it didnt go through!
#726 [03:14] <|Kiikun|Janus|> yes bu they can stall at times.
#727 [03:15] <Jovet> yes lostdemouse.
#728 [03:15] <|Kiikun|Janus|> unless mojangs servers were borked :P
#729 [03:15] <lostdemouse> Like almost 2 weeks....
#730 [03:15] <Jovet> that never happens Kiikun. ;)
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#732 [03:18] <lostdemouse> Wow now i have to wait 60 days...lets see which comes first...the mail from mojang or the bank for refund
#733 [03:18] <Jovet> the mail won't come from Mojang if you do a chargeback
#734 [03:18] <mib_4ld65u> Minecraft was running fine until the update. Now the game crashes and it keeps telling me that i need to update my video drivers. I have already done so, as well as installed the latest ver of Java. I'm not sure what to do.
#735 [03:18] <|Kiikun|Janus|> now... wouldnt it suck for mojang to resolve the issue.. only for your bank to take the money back? :P
#736 [03:19] <Jovet> that's why I told him to not do that, and just wait, but... too late now.
#737 [03:19] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_4ld65u: the update to 1.0.0?
#738 [03:19] <mib_4ld65u> yes.
#739 [03:19] <Jovet> mib_4ld65u: when does it crash?
#740 [03:19] <mib_4ld65u> during start up.
#741 [03:19] <lostdemouse> Meh
#742 [03:19] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_4ld65u: did you have issues with 1.8.1?
#743 [03:20] <mib_4ld65u> no 1.8.1 was running just fine.
#744 [03:20] <Jovet> mib_4ld65u: so, before you log in?
#745 [03:20] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_4ld65u: um... you didnt update your drivers through windows update, did you?
#746 [03:21] <mib_4ld65u> Well the only way I knew how to update them was to go throught the video card options section.
#747 [03:21] <|Kiikun|Janus|> .............
#748 [03:21] <mib_4ld65u> Is there another way I should have updated them?
#749 [03:21] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :dx > mib_4ld65u
#750 [03:21] <WugBot> mib_4ld65u: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#751 [03:21] <WugBot> mib_4ld65u: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#752 [03:21] <lostdemouse> Well apparently if i get the mail from mojang saying the transaction hoes through i can screw the refund. But if the transaction fails the still took my moneh so i needa get it back?
#753 [03:24] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Jovet: since youve been hanging around. protip: windows update drivers DO NOT contain OpenGL. macroshaft strips it out.
#754 [03:25] * Jovet has never used Windows update to update video drivers and never will.
#754 [03:25] <|Kiikun|Janus|> very good. i only ever use WU for drivers if theres literally nowhere else.
#755 [03:27] * Jovet may be a moron but he's not a computer newb. lol
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#757 [03:32] <viktor> i set a server up and my friends can't join
#758 [03:33] <Jovet> viktor: did you configure the router?
#759 [03:34] <viktor> no
#760 [03:34] <Jovet> that usually helps ;)
#761 [03:34] <viktor> how do you configure the router ?
#762 [03:35] <Jovet> you need to make sure that whatever firewall the computer the server runs on is opened to allow people to connect, and you need to tell the router to send data to the server's computer
#763 [03:35] <viktor> ok thank you :D
#764 [03:36] <Jovet> viktor: check this out: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
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#766 [03:36] <theg> ;) hey trololol
#767 [03:36] <TROLOLOL> I HAVE AIDS :D
#768 [03:37] <Jovet> we don't care
#769 [03:37] <TROLOLOL> YES YOU DO
#770 [03:37] <theg> rap:/
#771 [03:37] <TROLOLOL> Rap?
#772 [03:37] <TROLOLOL> Rape maybe?
#773 [03:38] <theg> stocker:P
#774 [03:38] <TROLOLOL> Its stalker
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#776 [03:39] <theg> jovet watch out TROLOLOL is a rapest
#777 [03:39] <TROLOLOL> i do believe this i agree
#778 [03:39] <theg> I told you Jovet
#779 [03:40] <TROLOLOL> Shut up gay :)
#780 [03:40] <theg> I have titeys
#781 [03:41] <Jovet> what's wrong with being happy?
#782 [03:41] <TROLOLOL> EVERYTHING MANG EVERYTHING
#783 [03:41] <Jovet> good riddance
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#787 [03:49] <viktor> i configured my network to see if it help my friends join but it didnt work
#788 [03:49] <Jovet> tell us what you did?
#789 [03:50] <viktor> i made it so that i can recieve and send imformation from other computers
#790 [03:50] <Jovet> lol
#791 [03:50] <viktor> -_- ::P
#792 [03:50] <Jovet> please be specific. what did you do?
#793 [03:52] <viktor> i went to the network configuration part of my computer and turned the sharing from other networks on
#794 [03:53] <Jovet> that isn't the setting you need
#795 [03:53] <Jovet> do you have multiple computers on your internet connection?
#796 [03:54] <viktor> yes but the second one i have no idea about it since its my brother's computer
#797 [03:56] <Jovet> the first step is configuring the router. if you don't know the router's password you won't be able to do that.
#798 [03:58] <Jovet> this page can explain how to do that: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm
#799 [03:58] <Jovet> (Scroll down, find your router, click on its model name, then you'll probably need to click "Skip Advertisement" on the next page, and then it will show detailed instructions)
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#801 [04:06] <viktor> ok i did these steps
#802 [04:06] <Jovet> the ones for your router?
#803 [04:06] <viktor> yes
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#805 [04:07] <Jovet> good good.
#806 [04:07] <Jovet> !check 72.178.74.171
#807 [04:08] <b0xxy> !check 111.118.169.23
#808 [04:08] <viktor> ok im confused
#809 [04:08] <b0xxy> lol, my server is online wtih 6 players
#810 [04:08] <b0xxy> so the bot is fked
#811 [04:08] <Jovet> lol
#812 [04:09] <Jovet> !check 24.230.138.96
#813 [04:09] <Jovet> what are you confused about viktor?
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#816 [04:16] <Jovet> wb viktor
#817 [04:16] <viktor> i forgot to apply changes
#818 [04:17] <Jovet> after you get the router setup, make sure any firewalls on the computer allow connections on port 25565.
#819 [04:21] <viktor> what do i put the port name as
#820 [04:21] <Jovet> in the firewall, you mean? or the router?
#821 [04:23] <viktor> ok i got the new ports added
#822 [04:23] <viktor> firewall
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#824 [04:23] <Jovet> okay that's good
#825 [04:24] <Jovet> so you've got the router forwarding 25565 to the server's machine, and you got the firewall on the server's machine open for port 25565?
#826 [04:24] <viktor> will the server work now?
#827 [04:24] <Jovet> it might, try it.
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#829 [04:25] <ihasbigpenis> rawr
#830 [04:25] <MexicanCholo> lean with it
#831 [04:25] <Jovet> careful with that.
#832 [04:25] <ihasbigpenis> I like to let it hang no what im sayin?
#833 [04:26] <viktor> it says end of stream when i try
#834 [04:26] <Jovet> I speak English, you do not.
#835 [04:26] <Jovet> viktor: well that is progress....
#836 [04:26] <MexicanCholo> but im not no cracker
#837 [04:26] <ihasbigpenis> I SPEEK A DA ENGRISH BERY GEWD BICBOIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#838 [04:27] <viktor> ok
#839 [04:27] <MexicanCholo> im a beaner
#840 [04:28] <ihasbigpenis> MY NAME BUKLUU
#841 [04:28] <ihasbigpenis> HERRO BIC BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIIIIIII U DER?
#842 [04:29] * Kealper puts on his good kicking boots
#842 [04:29] * Kealper kicked ihasbigpenis from #minecrafthelp (Reason: hasbigpenis :Wanna play a... Game?)
#843 [04:29] * Kealper kicked MexicanCholo from #minecrafthelp (Reason: exicanCholo :You too, we can have so much fun!)
#844 [04:29] <Jovet> thanks
#845 [04:29] <Kealper> aww, they didn't want to play a game
#846 [04:30] <viktor> ok now it let me join my friends still cant
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#848 [04:30] * Kealper kicked MexicanCholo from #minecrafthelp (Reason: exicanCholo :Well well, it seems you do want to play, good!)
#849 [04:30] <Kealper> \o/
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#851 [04:30] <MexicanCholo> zjdhkskddnfksdn
#852 [04:30] <MexicanCholo> lksdnkldsjklnm
#853 [04:30] <MexicanCholo> ,d.mlsd;mgk.;.
#854 [04:30] * Kealper kicked MexicanCholo from #minecrafthelp (Reason: exicanCholo :Just remember, I'm cooler than you)
#855 [04:30] <Jovet> /kickban
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#857 [04:30] * Kealper kicked MexicanCholo from #minecrafthelp (Reason: exicanCholo :Just remember, I'm cooler than you)
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#860 [04:31] <Jovet> viktor: when you forwarded port 25565 in the router, are you sure you forwarded it to the correct IP address?
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#863 [04:32] <viktor> my ip adress is the defualt one so yes
#864 [04:32] * Kealper goes back to finishing his program
#864 [04:32] <Jovet> thanks Kealper.
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#867 [04:32] <Kealper> Imsorry: well if you want to play that way
#868 [04:33] <Carltron> does anyone know anything about adventurecraft?
#869 [04:33] <Imsorry> Well what'd i do :(
#870 [04:33] <Jovet> you were yelling and beeing distruptive.
#871 [04:33] <Jovet> and you had a non-PG-13 nickname
#872 [04:34] <Jovet> (beeing was a pun)
#873 [04:34] <Jovet> Carltron: I sure don't.
#874 [04:34] <Jovet> viktor: the default one?
#875 [04:34] <Carltron> damn
#876 [04:35] <Kealper> i love how he reset his modem just to ban evade and get back in here
#877 [04:35] <Jovet> Carltron: that doesn't mean nobody else does, but it's the middle of the night in North America
#878 [04:35] <Kealper> i have a ban sitting in my clipboard right now for everyone using sbc dsl in that city of texas atm D:
#879 [04:36] <viktor> yes
#880 [04:36] <Carltron> oh ok thanx jovet
#881 [04:37] <Carltron> i just cant get aventurecraft to work with minecraft
#882 [04:37] <Jovet> viktor: what is your compuer's local IP address?
#883 [04:38] <viktor> i believe 192.168.2.2
#884 [04:39] <Jovet> that sounds like it could be right :)
#885 [04:40] <viktor> :D
#886 [04:41] <Jovet> i'm having a brain fart (again), I forget the end of stream problem
#887 [04:42] <viktor> lol :p i have alot of time
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#889 [04:43] <Jovet> viktor: what version of minecraft is your server?
#890 [04:44] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
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#892 [04:44] <viktor> 1.0.0
#893 [04:44] <Jovet> and everyone is connecting with that version also, right?
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#895 [04:44] <viktor> ya
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#897 [04:47] <Jovet> keep trying it, see if it works
#898 [04:49] <viktor> do they do direct conect or add server
#899 [04:49] <reedle> hi there umm i just got the game and whenever i try starting it it loads to a point then closes
#900 [04:49] <reedle> and i tried web bowser
#901 [04:49] <Jovet> viktor: either one can work, but "add" is more conveient since it saves the information.
#902 [04:49] <reedle> then it goes to grey screen
#903 [04:49] * Jovet skips the "Bowser is on the web? we're doomed!" joke.
#903 [04:50] <Jovet> reedle: you just bought the game today?
#904 [04:50] <reedle> no about two days ago
#905 [04:50] <reedle> havent been able to play it yet
#906 [04:50] <Jovet> reedle: what kind of computer do you have?
#907 [04:50] <reedle> well i didnt buy it my friend boguht it for me for my birthday lol..
#908 [04:50] <reedle> vista
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#910 [04:51] <reedle> i reinstalled the new java got rid of some things that might block it
#911 [04:51] <reedle> but so far no use..
#912 [04:51] <Jovet> reedle: go to minecraft.net/download log in to the site download the minecraft.exe launcher. If you've already done that, overwrite the old one.
#913 [04:52] <Jovet> viktor: you might try that too
#914 [04:52] <reedle> nope
#915 [04:52] <reedle> didnt work
#916 [04:52] <viktor> ok i did this i can go to my sever but my friends say cant reach server
#917 [04:53] <Jovet> vikor: so you can now get onto your server without any problems?
#918 [04:53] * Kealper twirls his magic @
#918 [04:54] <Jovet> aww thanks Kealper
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#920 [04:54] <Kealper> :P
#921 [04:54] <viktor> it say invalid server responded with invalid server key
#922 [04:54] <Jovet> !check 72.178.74.171
#923 [04:55] <Jovet> viktor: that's a "known problem" ... if you keep re-trying it, it will work.
#924 [04:55] <Jovet> that's such a major problem I suspect Mojang will fix that within the week.
#925 [04:55] <viktor> ok then well it normally works
#926 [04:56] <viktor> ok
#927 [04:56] <Jovet> what messages do your friends see when they try to connect?
#928 [04:56] <viktor> cannot reach server
#929 [04:56] <Jovet> I suspect your router isn't setup right yet
#930 [04:57] <Jovet> which router do you have?
#931 [04:58] <viktor> belkin f5d8236-4
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#933 [04:59] <Esternick> Hey everybody
#934 [04:59] <reedle> hi
#935 [04:59] <viktor> model type f5d8236-4 v2
#936 [05:00] <reedle> ok so jovet i am waiting till your done with viktor
#937 [05:00] <Jovet> hi Esternick
#938 [05:01] <Jovet> reedle: sorry, I didn't forget about 'ya but I did get sidetracked. What anti-virus software do you have running?
#939 [05:01] <Esternick> I need some help please,.. I have an Minecraft 1.8.1 Client with an installed ModPack of 40 Mods and my friend have the same one. So i tried to start an server trough LAN for a short LanParty, but a few mods dont load because they are only for SSP. Now i want to know if its possible to connect 2 SSP clients via LAN to play Minecraft. Info: we dont have internet at his House so we can only play offline,,, THX for your help
#940 [05:01] <reedle> avg
#941 [05:01] <reedle> i tried allowing it through
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#943 [05:02] <reedle> but to no anail
#944 [05:02] <reedle> avail
#945 [05:02] <Jovet> Esternick: it's not possible to connect "single player to single player" but you can setup your own server and connect to that
#946 [05:02] <Jovet> Esternick: with all those mods installed, though, you may run into problems getting that all to work.
#947 [05:02] <Jovet> reedle: did you disable the Link Scanning feature?
#948 [05:03] <reedle> no
#949 [05:03] <Jovet> reedle: do that
#950 [05:03] <reedle> ok i will try
#951 [05:03] <Jovet> reedle: disable AVG completely and see if it works. turn it completely off. everything short of uninstalling it. if Minecraft works then we know what the problem was.
#952 [05:04] <Esternick> <Jovet>_-- Do you know an good tutorial how to do that? without an video? i am connected with my iphone and i have max. 20kb/s ;D
#953 [05:04] <reedle> ok
#954 [05:04] <reedle> so dont disable linkscanner
#955 [05:04] <reedle> just turn it off
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#957 [05:05] <Jovet> disable, turn off, same thing in my vernacular.
#958 [05:05] <Jovet> Esternick: try http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server
#959 [05:05] <Jovet> viktor: still there?
#960 [05:05] <Esternick> And what does Internal Server Error mean?
#961 [05:05] <viktor> yes
#962 [05:06] <Jovet> Esternick: it means "O.O" .... that all your mods are likely conflicting. hah
#963 [05:06] <Jovet> viktor: I was reading the instructions it gave you
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#965 [05:06] <viktor> ok
#966 [05:07] <Esternick> xD
#967 [05:07] <Esternick> Ok thx i will try it
#968 [05:07] <Esternick> have a nice day
#969 [05:08] <Jovet> reedle: did disabling AVG help?
#970 [05:09] <reedle> still working on finding to disable it lol my dad has it setup so i cant really touch it. lol and its my computer
#971 [05:10] <Jovet> probably becaues he doesn't want to fix it :)
#972 [05:10] <Jovet> you might need his help to do it then
#973 [05:10] <reedle> not at 3 in the morning lol
#974 [05:10] <reedle> ima keep trying
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#976 [05:11] <Jovet> heh yeah you might ahve to ask him tomorrow
#977 [05:11] <Jovet> but AVG is known to conflict with Minecraft, so it's the first thing to check. If it's the problem, you can tell AVG to ignore it.
#978 [05:12] <reedle> how what do i do
#979 [05:12] <reedle> this is sorta sad for me to ask that because i was raised with computers lol..
#980 [05:13] <Jovet> reedle: how what eh?
#981 [05:13] <reedle> what do i do to allow minecraft through
#982 [05:13] <reedle> the firewall
#983 [05:14] <reedle> like make an exception in there
#984 [05:14] <Jovet> you shouldn't need to do that unless you're setting up a server
#985 [05:15] <reedle> ok so how do i allow minecraft through
#986 [05:15] <reedle> so i can have avg running and minecraft
#987 [05:15] <reedle> or is that not possible
#988 [05:15] <Jovet> I don't have the AVG interface handy so can't walk you through it, but I'm pretty certain your dadwould have to do that if it's locked down
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#990 [05:16] <Jovet> but it's faster and more-comprehensive to disable it firstto see if it works versus trying to re-configure it
#991 [05:17] <reedle> ok
#992 [05:18] <Jovet> dammit
#993 [05:18] <Jovet> I was just trying to talk to him
#994 [05:22] <Jovet> that is to say, I was just typing a message. hah
#995 [05:22] <reedle> lol
#996 [05:23] <Jovet> though I wasn't sure what else to tell him other than resetting his router
#997 [05:23] <reedle> what was his problem
#998 [05:24] <Jovet> was setting up a server that others couldn't connect to
#999 [05:24] <reedle> well what was his port set to
#1000 [05:24] <reedle> resetting router wouldnt do much
#1001 [05:24] <Jovet> I should hav asked him to verify his internal IP
#1002 [05:24] <Jovet> if the router has been up for a while, sometimes they go wonky.
#1003 [05:25] <reedle> think he woulda known how
#1004 [05:26] <reedle> ya or his internet company just doesnt like him. haha
#1005 [05:26] <Jovet> I'da told him how
#1006 [05:26] <Jovet> if an ISP is blocking port 25565 then he has other problems. hah
#1007 [05:27] <Jovet> did you make any progress on AVG? or goingto wait to tomorrow and have your dad help?
#1008 [05:27] <reedle> im working on it still
#1009 [05:27] <reedle> my dad hates me messing with my computer
#1010 [05:27] <Jovet> do you ask him to fix it when you break it?
#1011 [05:27] <reedle> who said ive broken it? lol
#1012 [05:28] <reedle> ive broken other computers
#1013 [05:28] <reedle> but not my precious
#1014 [05:28] <Jovet> it's a safe assumption ;) everyone breaks one once in a while.
#1015 [05:28] <reedle> me bout 5 in 2 years
#1016 [05:28] <reedle> 2 school computers and 3 home
#1017 [05:29] <Jovet> are the ones you've broken? or had?
#1018 [05:29] <reedle> broken
#1019 [05:30] <Jovet> that's not a great track record ;)
#1020 [05:30] <reedle> yea but still its fun to experiment
#1021 [05:31] <Jovet> but it's only worthwhile if you teach yousrelf how to fix it
#1022 [05:31] <Jovet> it's a lot easier to learn stuff nowadays with the internet
#1023 [05:31] <Jovet> I've been messing with computers for always 30 years, it wasn't always that easy to google "minecraft wont work"
#1024 [05:31] <reedle> well ya but im guessing around 30% of it is wrong
#1025 [05:32] <reedle> lol ive not googled once for minecraft
#1026 [05:32] <reedle> till today lol
#1027 [05:32] <reedle> still didnt help
#1028 [05:32] <Jovet> you said you've not played the game yet right?
#1029 [05:33] <reedle> yes
#1030 [05:33] <Jovet> that's disapointing, but I'm going to guess AVG really is your problem
#1031 [05:33] <reedle> thats what im guessing now to
#1032 [05:34] <reedle> so 30 years with computers wow
#1033 [05:34] <Jovet> almost ;) I'm old. lol
#1034 [05:34] <reedle> lol nice
#1035 [05:34] <reedle> you know how to code java
#1036 [05:34] <reedle> or c++
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#1038 [05:35] <Jovet> I never got into JAva, I think it's a crummy language/platform personally
#1039 [05:35] <CharlieChaos> Hello all
#1040 [05:35] <Jovet> I've dabbled with C++ but I'm no expert
#1041 [05:35] <reedle> hi
#1042 [05:35] <Jovet> hi CharlieChaos
#1043 [05:35] <reedle> well its not crummy its just boring
#1044 [05:35] <CharlieChaos> Can someone help me out having some problems modding Minecraft
#1045 [05:36] <Jovet> yes we can, spit it out and we'll try to help
#1046 [05:36] <Jovet> reedle: I don't like the langauge philosophy of "it runs on anything"
#1047 [05:36] <reedle> Jovet: well thats not entirely true it doesnt run really well with mac
#1048 [05:37] <CharlieChaos> Ok so on version 1.0 I do the force update to make sure everything is good. I open my minecraft.jar loaded the modloader on
#1049 [05:37] <CharlieChaos> I started minecraft and it works fine
#1050 [05:37] * Kealper coughs out someVariable.someFunctionOne(someClassFactory.Factory(someOtherFactoryFactory), derpFactory()))
#1050 [05:37] <Kealper> whoops, pressed ) one too many times
#1051 [05:38] <CharlieChaos> I tried to install the Finder compass and I get black screens or when I start the game the mods just arnt installed Ive used my backup and retried and it just doesnt work
#1052 [05:38] <CharlieChaos> Ive tried older versions and mods and get the same thing
#1053 [05:39] <Jovet> CharlieChaos: on a mac?
#1054 [05:39] <CharlieChaos> PC
#1055 [05:39] <Jovet> oh.. finder compass is a plugin or something?
#1056 [05:40] <CharlieChaos> yea its a mod
#1057 [05:40] <Jovet> err mod yeah ugh getting late
#1058 [05:40] <CharlieChaos> Ive tried the Xray for 1.8 and textures do the same thing as well
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#1060 [05:40] <Jovet> I can't/won't help, I don't do client mods
#1061 [05:41] <CharlieChaos> lol damn
#1062 [05:41] <CharlieChaos> its annoying cause I have modded games and made mods and I know im doing something stupid cause im aggrivated
#1063 [05:42] <Jovet> someone else might pipe up but considering it's the middle of the night in north america you might be waiting
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#1065 [05:42] <Jovet> if it were me, I'd backup your current .minecraft folder, blow it away, have the launcher download 1.0.0 all fresh and new, and get that to work
#1066 [05:42] <Jovet> then I'd start adding the mods (in the right order) one by one
#1067 [05:43] <Jovet> but that's me.
#1068 [05:43] <CharlieChaos> Ive tried that and it just doesnt work
#1069 [05:43] <CharlieChaos> I dunno im in NA and its late
#1070 [05:44] <Jovet> NA?
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#1072 [05:44] <CaelThunderwing> north america and its just now early morning for the east coast
#1073 [05:44] <Jovet> oh. lol thought maybe you were tryingto say MA
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#1075 [05:44] <mib_tba82j> wow so sorry
#1076 [05:44] <Jovet> umm have you gotten it to work just plain vanilla?
#1077 [05:45] <mib_tba82j> its reedle
#1078 [05:45] <mib_tba82j> cant change my name..
#1079 [05:46] <CharlieChaos> Go figure i got a texture pack to work lol
#1080 [05:46] <Jovet> a HD texture pack?
#1081 [05:46] <CaelThunderwing> i wonder of teh SPHax Pure BDCraft has been updated for 1.0 yet
#1082 [05:47] <Jovet> search the wiki and/or minecraftforums
#1083 [05:50] <CharlieChaos> not HD
#1084 [05:50] <CharlieChaos> but its a start i guess
#1085 [05:50] <Jovet> non-HD texture packs should work inherently, so
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#1087 [05:55] <CharlieChaos> lol hey more than I got before =P
#1088 [05:55] <CharlieChaos> Now ill try a HD one
#1089 [05:55] <reedle> back
#1090 [05:56] <CharlieChaos> Reedle do you know how to install mods
#1091 [05:56] <reedle> umm i think so
#1092 [05:56] <reedle> download the mod and put it in the .minecraft folder
#1093 [05:56] <reedle> in your
#1094 [05:57] <reedle> %appdata% folder
#1095 [05:57] <CharlieChaos> I cant get any to install correctly Ive gone through the whole process delete meta ext wont work
#1096 [05:57] <reedle> do you have teamviewer?
#1097 [05:58] <CharlieChaos> no
#1098 [05:58] <CharlieChaos> whats that
#1099 [05:58] <reedle> it will allow me to see your computers monitor and help you out
#1100 [05:59] <reedle> alright do you have skype
#1101 [05:59] <reedle> ?
#1102 [05:59] <CharlieChaos> nope
#1103 [05:59] <CharlieChaos> vent
#1104 [05:59] <reedle> ok
#1105 [06:00] <CharlieChaos> If it helps ive been through all of the online tutorials and still cant get it to work
#1106 [06:00] <reedle> ok give me a minute
#1107 [06:00] <Jovet> CharlieChaos: how many mods do you have installed...?
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#1109 [06:01] <CharlieChaos> 0
#1110 [06:02] <reedle> 0 im still trying to get the game to work lol.. ive been working on it for a couple days
#1111 [06:02] <reedle> but i think i know how to get mods
#1112 [06:02] <CharlieChaos> I have a HD texture pack now thats it but when I tried to install mods it was a fresh minecraft
#1113 [06:02] <Jovet> reedle: giving Mod advice truly requires practical experience... if you don't have any, I would try to offer to help.
#1114 [06:03] <reedle> lol sorry
#1115 [06:03] <reedle> just nobody else was on
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#1117 [06:03] <CharlieChaos> Im back sorry got knocked off
#1118 [06:04] <Jovet> I was tryin to say: I wouldn't try to offer any help
#1119 [06:04] <Jovet> I'm tired but not sleepy. grrr
#1120 [06:04] <reedle> same
#1121 [06:06] <Jovet> it's what I get for going to sleep at 9pm. hah
#1122 [06:06] <reedle> ha
#1123 [06:06] <CharlieChaos> lol
#1124 [06:07] <reedle> CharlieChaos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc25V1PzCqc try watching this
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#1126 [06:07] <reedle> try
#1127 [06:07] <reedle> watching this
#1128 [06:08] <Hirsty> Hey thinking of hosting a server on a vps, any idea of what sorta stats i should go for? >.>
#1129 [06:08] <AG_Clinton> Good CPU and IO.
#1130 [06:08] <Jovet> memory is good too
#1131 [06:08] <Hirsty> RAM/Bandwidth wise?
#1132 [06:08] <AG_Clinton> You don't need over 500GB for Minecraft (Bandwidth)
#1133 [06:08] <AG_Clinton> Depends on the players for RAM.
#1134 [06:09] <AG_Clinton> Don't use openvz.
#1135 [06:09] <Hirsty> ~30?
#1136 [06:09] <AG_Clinton> 1.5GB - 3GB
#1137 [06:09] <AG_Clinton> Depending on plugins.
#1138 [06:09] <AG_Clinton> Minecraft has become pretty CPU intensive. It's not just throwing RAM at it like most people still believe.
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#1140 [06:10] <Hirsty> can you still use the xmx setting on java to limit it?
#1141 [06:10] <AG_Clinton> If you get a VPS make sure the CPU is either 56xx or E3-12xx
#1142 [06:10] <AG_Clinton> Yes.
#1143 [06:11] <Hirsty> http://volumedrive.com/vdrive/?a=vps - would package 2 suffice?
#1144 [06:11] <AG_Clinton> I'm a server provider and just trying to give recommendations on my personal experience.
#1145 [06:11] <AG_Clinton> Volumedrive is meh.
#1146 [06:11] <AG_Clinton> I've seen awesome reviews and horrible ones.
#1147 [06:11] <AG_Clinton> It's sort of the luck of the draw.
#1148 [06:11] <AG_Clinton> It's sort of the luck of the draw.
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#1151 [06:12] <AG_Clinton> They're cheap enough it wouldn't hurt to try.
#1152 [06:12] <Jovet> gotta take itno account the compentcy of the people using it
#1153 [06:12] <AG_Clinton> Jovet: I am.
#1154 [06:12] <Hirsty> just trying to balance price and quality as well as usefulness thats all
#1155 [06:13] <AG_Clinton> I understand.
#1156 [06:13] <AG_Clinton> You've hit the lowest end you can find with VPS hosting I assure you.
#1157 [06:13] <Hirsty> doesnt help being a graduate who is currently out of work ¬.¬
#1158 [06:14] <Jovet> where do 'ya live Hirsty?
#1159 [06:15] <Hirsty> as of current i do run a serfver but rely on an external sql database as we share the server over 2 PC's
#1160 [06:16] <Jovet> a single minecraft server on two pcs?
#1161 [06:17] <AlphaDetisMegas> perfectly doable
#1162 [06:17] <Jovet> news to me
#1163 [06:17] <Jovet> how does that work?
#1164 [06:18] <Hirsty> basically say when i need to shutdown my pc i shut it down my side, he opens it on his
#1165 [06:19] <Hirsty> we keep files in sync using sugarsync
#1166 [06:19] <Jovet> oh. I thought you meant both hosting it at the same time, like load balancing
#1167 [06:19] <Hirsty> nah
#1168 [06:19] <Hirsty> althought if we could do that...
#1169 [06:20] <Hirsty> lol
#1170 [06:20] <Jovet> I'm betting that would work just fine as long as neither system wants to load the same chunk region file. hah
#1171 [06:21] <Jovet> which of course defeats the purpose.
#1172 [06:22] <Jovet> I'm sure there will be a mod for that at some point!
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#1174 [06:23] <Hirsty> but relying on an external sql db is proving a pain in the arse
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#1176 [06:23] <GROMOR_RUS> привет!
#1177 [06:23] <GROMOR_RUS> hi
#1178 [06:23] <Jovet> and not the good pain.
#1179 [06:23] <Jovet> hi Gromor
#1180 [06:24] <Hirsty> lol
#1181 [06:24] <GROMOR_RUS> can you tell me where to find id of different potions?
#1182 [06:24] <Hirsty> the minecraft wiki? :D
#1183 [06:24] <Jovet> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values has everything except maybe potions
#1184 [06:25] <Jovet> I guess that's on the Talk page, it hasn't been quite figured out yet
#1185 [06:28] <GROMOR_RUS> i didnt find id of potions
#1186 [06:28] <GROMOR_RUS> only bottles
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#1188 [06:28] <GROMOR_RUS> and water i bottle((
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#1190 [06:29] <Jovet> I'm guessing if the wiki doesn't know it then it's not known yet.
#1191 [06:29] <GROMOR_RUS> can you tell me the exact link?
#1192 [06:30] <GROMOR_RUS> (
#1193 [06:30] <Jovet> the exact link to what?
#1194 [06:30] <GROMOR_RUS> too many items knows them but on my server toomany items causes crashes and i cant use them
#1195 [06:30] <GROMOR_RUS> ((
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#1197 [06:31] <Jovet> yeah I was helping you with that the other day, remember?
#1198 [06:31] <GROMOR_RUS> yep
#1199 [06:31] <GROMOR_RUS> but ids from too many items are not accepted my op plugin(
#1200 [06:32] <GROMOR_RUS> they are different there
#1201 [06:32] <GROMOR_RUS> well ill try to find
#1202 [06:32] <GROMOR_RUS> 66
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#1205 [06:39] <Jovet> I'm wilting.
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#1214 [07:16] <sdousley> does anyone know if it's possible to stop a 12-repeater clock, without breaking the redstone circuit?
#1215 [07:16] <sdousley> so like you force the circuit to go along a dead path, rather than into a repeater
#1216 [07:20] <AlphaDetisMegas> *FUS ROH DAH*
#1217 [07:29] <sdousley> ah, I have a solution :D
#1218 [07:30] <sdousley> run a line of redstone over a block, and use a sticky piston+stone
#1219 [07:30] <sdousley> to break it off one side of the block
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#1223 [08:03] <Middelbabz> How do i register my name on the other channel ?:D
#1224 [08:04] <Middelbabz> ??
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#1226 [08:06] <Middelbabz> How do i register my name on the other channel ?:D?
#1227 [08:06] <Middelbabz> Plz help :)
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#1232 [08:11] <wessel> Are boats supposed to go in walls? So you suffocate to death inside a wall?
#1233 [08:11] <wessel> What is the minimum number of water buckets you need to make a good water elevator?
#1234 [08:13] <clarjon1> wessel: Depends on the height of the elevator i think
#1235 [08:14] <wessel> from surface to bedrock
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#1237 [08:15] <jasper> pmad1
#1238 [08:16] <jasper> hola i am not a video game gu but my 8 yr loves this game
#1239 [08:16] <jasper> he can play it on 1 laptop but it errors out on my notebook
#1240 [08:17] <AlphaDetisMegas> specs?
#1241 [08:17] <jasper> ?
#1242 [08:17] <AlphaDetisMegas> also, what error
#1243 [08:18] <AlphaDetisMegas> I'm assuming you want it to work on your netbook as well, am I right jasper ?
#1244 [08:18] <jasper> i try to download it and it does nothing......he hits in browser and it goes to a wite screen
#1245 [08:18] <jasper> white
#1246 [08:18] <jasper> ye
#1247 [08:18] <jasper> yes
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#1249 [08:20] <jasper> alpha?
#1250 [08:21] <jasper> any suggetions
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#1253 [08:23] <AlphaDetisMegas> whoops,sorry, no idea what happened there
#1254 [08:23] <jasper> alpha? you there
#1255 [08:23] <AlphaDetisMegas> jasper: are you downloading it from here: http://www.minecraft.net/download
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#1257 [08:24] <jasper> i did it saves an icon on the desktop? but when i click it does nothing
#1258 [08:24] <jasper> i did it saves an icon on the desktop? but when i click it does nothing
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#1260 [08:26] <jasper> do i run as adinistrator?
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#1264 [08:36] <mib_ngutso> um... i have a question about buying the game...
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#1270 [08:45] <zavist> hi guys, someone told me there's a mod that fixes the fake death bug in SMP but i can't find it, any help?
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#1272 [08:46] <guacamole> hey im just wondering if the newest version of java is supported by minecraft? i got the ne w java update and now minecraft refuses to even run
#1273 [08:47] <guacamole> i cleaned the bin and tried browser as well as donwload but nothing worked
#1274 [08:49] <clarjon1> guacamole: Did you get java 7?
#1275 [08:49] <clarjon1> guacamole: Because java 7 is not yet supported.
#1276 [08:56] <sdousley> wessel: can you not do the elevator with 1 bucket of water?
#1277 [08:56] <sdousley> obviously you'll need some way to stop yourself from drowning, but not doing a vertical shaft should do that
#1278 [08:56] <wessel> sdousley: the problem is that the boat gets stuck
#1279 [08:56] <wessel> or wants to move out of the water
#1280 [08:56] <sdousley> ah, you're doing it in a boat
#1281 [08:56] <sdousley> I've never used boats, just swam up in the elevator
#1282 [08:57] <guacamole> yeah i has java 7 dang it anyone know hwen jva 7 is gonna be supported?
#1283 [08:57] <wessel> boats are weird
#1284 [08:58] <clarjon1> guacamole: Whenever the opengl implementation that MInecraft relies on is updated for java 7
#1285 [08:58] <wessel> I died 100+ times already
#1286 [08:58] <wessel> because the boat knocks me into a wall
#1287 [08:58] <wessel> and I suffocate in a wall
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#1291 [09:01] <Aitsuki_chan> lll
#1292 [09:02] <guacamole> anyone know how i can roll back my java 7 to java 6?
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#1294 [09:07] <wessel> sdousley: you can actually do it with 1 bucket of water
#1295 [09:07] <wessel> but you need a 3x3 shaft
#1296 [09:07] <wessel> and keep the stream 1 water max
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#1300 [09:11] <sdousley> wessel: ah ok
#1301 [09:12] <sdousley> and then just float up the side of it in your boat?
#1302 [09:12] <wessel> yes, really fast
#1303 [09:12] <sdousley> guacamole: probably uninstall Java 7, and reinstall java6
#1304 [09:12] <wessel> like from bedrock to surface in 3 seconds
#1305 [09:12] <sdousley> :o
#1306 [09:12] <sdousley> nice
#1307 [09:13] <sdousley> gonna go try that myself now :P
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#1310 [09:15] <guacamole> how do i uninstall java 7?
#1311 [09:15] <sdousley> through add/remove programs
#1312 [09:15] <nipper> Anyone want a vanilla MC server to play on? I have 2 running and 2nd one not doing any thing right not till bukkit is updated.
#1313 [09:15] <guacamole> me
#1314 [09:16] <guacamole> whats the ip?
#1315 [09:16] <nipper> connect to a.mcdominion.net feel free to invite your firends you will be the only one using it. I need to stress test the box its on the most.
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#1317 [09:16] <guacamole> ok bye
#1318 [09:16] <nipper> or remove the a. and join the main one with my other users.
#1319 [09:17] <wessel> sdousley: build a 3x3 shaft, but 1 block north, put ladders and east, south, and west, put water in the middle, remove north block, and quickly place ladder
#1320 [09:17] <wessel> and you are done :P
#1321 [09:17] <wessel> ladders make sure you only get a single water stream
#1322 [09:17] <wessel> if you have multiple streams your boat will go left and right all the time, instead of going up
#1323 [09:25] <sdousley> ah that's cool
#1324 [09:27] <clarjon1> That's a nice tip.
#1325 [09:33] <Aitsuki_chan> i was trying to buy the game today and somehow i was brought to this sight called moneybookers.com.... i don't really thing this was supposed to happen. anyone know?
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#1327 [09:37] <clarjon1> Aitsuki_chan: Moneybookers is one of the available payment options, yes.
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#1329 [09:48] <Zw> One player cant build in my vanilla world. What may that be because of?
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#1332 [10:01] <Clive> Hello people~
#1333 [10:01] <Aitsuki_chan> ok. so it wasn't just some weird thing? i did buy the game?
#1334 [10:01] <Clive> Anybody knows how to contact Mojang for account issues?
#1335 [10:02] <Clive> An email address, or whatever?
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#1344 [10:32] <Clive> I run a server on my computer, my brother is connected to same house wifi, with both my ip and localhost, I get an error message "Can't reach server". Can someone help?
#1345 [10:32] <Clive> Realised my wording is a little weird.
#1346 [10:33] <Clive> We are on the same wifi network, typing my server ip into his MC gets the error message, and same if I use localhost
#1347 [10:33] <mr_evil> hi
#1348 [10:33] <Clive> There are currently people on my server, so its not that the server isn't able to be connected to
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#1350 [10:34] <mr_evil> hallo leute hab ne frage Ich Habe mir Ein Konto Gemacht und Wollte mich einloggen Aber es geht nich
#1351 [10:34] <mr_evil> Hi people, I've got a question I've made ​​one account and wanted to sign me but it goes NICH
#1352 [10:35] <MrCrashdummy> Nich?
#1353 [10:36] <mr_evil> nee
#1354 [10:36] <mr_evil> es geht nicht
#1355 [10:36] <mr_evil> weis nicht warumm
#1356 [10:37] <mr_evil> jaa
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#1358 [10:47] <Clive> Hello? Anyone? @.@
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#1362 [10:51] <Clive> I am running a server. My brother is trying to join. We are on the same wifi network, typing my server ip into his MC gets the error message "Can't reach server" and same if I use localhost. There are people on my server, so it isn't a connection problem. Anybody can help me?
#1363 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> You can't connect to your own server?
#1364 [10:51] <Zimsky> lol
#1365 [10:51] <Zimsky> Is it even running?
#1366 [10:52] <Zimsky> Like, are there any errors?
#1367 [10:52] <Clive> I can connect to my own server
#1368 [10:52] <Clive> but my brother, on the same wifi in the house, can't.
#1369 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> Then why did you say "localhost" didn't work? localhost only points to the same computer it's put in
#1370 [10:53] <Clive> because I run the server, I use "localhost" to connect, that doesn't work for my brother, and neither does the server ip that my friends are using to connect to my server
#1371 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> Have him try your private internal IP address
#1372 [10:54] <Clive> How do I find that?
#1373 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> I assume you port forwarded, yes?
#1374 [10:55] <Clive> Yes, 25565
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#1376 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> What was the ip address you port forwarded to? That's your computer's internal ip address.
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#1378 [10:55] <Clive> Oh
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#1380 [10:56] <keret> Why I cant run Minecraft?
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#1382 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> keret - We don't know, why can't you? Do you get any error messages? What does minecraft do, if anything?
#1383 [10:56] <Clive> Thanks GreyVulpine , that worked @.@
#1384 [10:56] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1384 [10:56] <clarjon1> keret: we don't know yet, you haven't given us enough info.
#1385 [10:56] <keret> I purchased it a few minutes ago
#1386 [10:57] <keret> and it can't run
#1387 [10:57] <clarjon1> Are there any errors?
#1388 [10:57] <Clive> Cannot believe I forgot about that, considering I've been running game servers for years =/
#1389 [10:57] <keret> Theres a message like "You need an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#1390 [10:57] <Clive> keret
#1391 [10:57] <clarjon1> Now we're getting somewhere
#1392 [10:58] <Clive> What's your graphics card
#1393 [10:58] <mib_tur824> I downloaded the game a while ago, and there was no mine craft folder created, and i can't find out how to make one either.
#1394 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> mib_tur824 - Did you pay for minecraft?
#1395 [10:59] <mib_tur824> yes
#1396 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> Then, what happens when you try to run minecraft and log in? It should make the minecraft folder automatically when you log in successfully
#1397 [10:59] <keret> I don't know.
#1398 [10:59] <keret> 258 MB I think
#1399 [10:59] <mib_tur824> i have already loaded and saved an account on another computer, and that worked fine
#1400 [11:00] <Clive> mib_tur824: What OS are you on?
#1401 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_tur824 - So what error message do you get upon login on the computer that doesn't work?
#1402 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> keret - What operating system are you on? Windows? Mac? Linux? OS/2 Warp?
#1403 [11:00] <Clive> keret: What OS are you on?
#1404 [11:00] <Clive> keret: What OS are you on?
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#1406 [11:01] <Clive> Ahhh..
#1407 [11:01] <mib_tur824> mac
#1408 [11:02] <Clive> mib_tur824: So, you downloaded the game, are you trying to find the game and run it, or find the .minecraft folder?
#1409 [11:03] <mib_tur824> well, i can run it. i just can't download mods and such
#1410 [11:03] <Clive> Whuh?
#1411 [11:03] <Clive> You mean INSTALL mods?
#1412 [11:03] <GreyVulpine> You can find the minecraft folder on a mac by going to your /users/yourname/Library/Application Support/minecraft folder
#1413 [11:03] <GreyVulpine> The minecraft.jar that you want to mod is in the bin folder inside
#1414 [11:03] <Clive> Ahh, I'm going off. Bye, and thanks again, Grey~
#1415 [11:03] * GreyVulpine waves
#1415 [11:04] * Clive waves goodbye
#1415 [11:04] <mib_tur824> its still not there
#1416 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> mib_tur824 - Do you have mac osx Lion?
#1417 [11:04] <mib_tur824> yes
#1418 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> That would be why, Lion hides the Library folder by default
#1419 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> To unhide it, do you know how to bring up your terminal on Mac?
#1420 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> 'lo?
#1421 [11:05] <mib_tur824> yes
#1422 [11:06] <GreyVulpine> Okay, in the terminal, put in: chflags nohidden ~/Library/
#1423 [11:06] <GreyVulpine> You should then be able to see the library folder in your home folder.
#1424 [11:07] <mib_tur824> ?
#1425 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> Do you have the terminal up on your computer?
#1426 [11:08] <mib_tur824> yah, working so far...
#1427 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> Do you see the minecraft folder in /users/yourname/Library/application support/ ?
#1428 [11:09] <mib_tur824> where is the mine craft folder supposed to be?
#1429 [11:09] <mib_tur824> sorry
#1430 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> /users/yourname/Library/application support/minecraft
#1431 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> !topic
#1432 [11:23] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: topic [ Rules: http://goo.gl/bmDxr | Bug tracker: http://goo.gl/GZWrJ | We are not affiliated with Mojang and cannot help with account issues. | Minecraft 1.0 has been released. The servers are overloaded. Be patient with updating. You may need to try many times. ] ... changed [ Scott | Fri Nov 18 15:10:44 MST 2011 ] ... undo [ yes ]
#1433 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> !topic del 4
#1434 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> !topic add Minecraft 1.0.1 has been released.
#1435 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> ?? snapshot
#1436 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> ??+ snapshot|Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/11w47/minecraft.jar
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#1438 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> Whoops
#1439 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> ??~ snapshot|Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/11w47a/minecraft.jar
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#1443 [11:34] <aljorub> how to turn of a pressureplate
#1444 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> AND it with another signal?
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#1446 [11:37] <reiterkast> hiho
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#1448 [11:44] <drupal> hello
#1449 [11:44] <drupal> would anyone like some minecraft help? i will provide a phone number if needed and i am multilingual
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#1452 [11:45] <drupal> ok it appears that this channel is dead and empty
#1453 [11:45] <drupal> ok it appears that this channel is dead and empty
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#1457 [11:56] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, 1.0.1 already? I logged into the launcher and didn't say I had to update...
#1458 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> Just for the server
#1459 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/jeb_/status/139688276922613761
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#1461 [12:00] <amphiboly> I've been trying to figure out all these mod loaders and managers. it's really confusing. I got that some special mods require risu's modloader, like mcedit, and others can be hacked in with 7zip or modloader or other software. I can't find find a clear document about all this
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#1463 [12:01] <l_Am_1337> Can anyone help? my game client won update....
#1464 [12:02] <amphiboly> don't they interfere with each other?
#1465 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> amphiboly - Some do, some don't
#1466 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> l_Am_1337 - What version are you on?
#1467 [12:02] <l_Am_1337> my client is stuck at 1.0.0 and when i force update it doesnt update can anyone help?
#1468 [12:02] <TheNytangel> *cough*
#1469 [12:03] <TheNytangel> l_Am_1337, the current version IS 1.0.0
#1470 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> l_Am_1337 - 1.0.0 is the latest client version
#1471 [12:03] <l_Am_1337> what about 1.8.1
#1472 [12:03] <l_Am_1337> ?
#1473 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> 1.8.1 = beta
#1474 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> 1.0.0 is the latest stable final release
#1475 [12:03] <l_Am_1337> yea how do i get into it
#1476 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> Beta's done with. It's over.
#1477 [12:03] <TheNytangel> l_Am_1337, that was beta. Notch screwed all of us over with not going to 2.0.0. Confuses so many people :P
#1478 [12:03] <l_Am_1337> o ok wow lol
#1479 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> 1.0.0 is the latest stable release
#1480 [12:03] <l_Am_1337> spent all that time
#1481 [12:03] <l_Am_1337> ok thanx lol
#1482 [12:04] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, !topic add 1.0.0 is the latest version of minecraft? :)
#1483 [12:04] * GreyVulpine grumbles
#1483 [12:04] <l_Am_1337> so when will we get all they new shit back?
#1484 [12:04] <TheNytangel> Don't
#1485 [12:04] <TheNytangel> People don't read the topic anyways
#1486 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> l_Am_1337 - What "new shit"?
#1487 [12:05] <l_Am_1337> lvling up etc.
#1488 [12:05] <TheNytangel> l_Am_1337, 1.0.0 is like 1.9 but with bug fixes
#1489 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> l_Am_1337 - Experience and leveling up is already in 1.0.0.
#1490 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> Mojang still plans on updating minecraft, even after 1.0.0
#1491 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> You just need to be patient.
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#1494 [12:06] <Balee> Hiya.
#1495 [12:07] <Balee> Land generation is so messed up. :D
#1496 [12:07] <Balee> I'm playing on my "old" single player map, and I started venturing outside the already generated areas.
#1497 [12:08] <Balee> And all I see now is partially frozen ocean and rectangular blocks of land.
#1498 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> Map generation algorithm's been changed, so it'll do that
#1499 [12:08] <Balee> But, like, with at least 10 block high walls.
#1500 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> Your currently already generated chunks were done with the old generator. The new generator doesn't take into account the old chunks
#1501 [12:09] <l_Am_1337> why do i see like purple blocks instead of food now?
#1502 [12:09] <Balee> I know it changed, but...
#1503 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> l_Am_1337 - Probably because of a custom texture pack that hasn't been updated
#1504 [12:09] <l_Am_1337> ahhh yea that explains it thnx
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#1506 [12:09] <lucysleftfoot> Hi!
#1507 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> Balee - There is no 'fix' for seams like that, it's just what you have to deal with when importing an old map over into newer versions
#1508 [12:09] <Balee> I'd think the newly generated terrain should still, you know, make sense.
#1509 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> It does, when you make a new map.
#1510 [12:10] <TheNytangel> Balee, if you don't like the 10 block high walls... create a new world?
#1511 [12:10] <Balee> You are totally misunderstanding me here, TheNytangel.
#1512 [12:10] <lucysleftfoot> We just bought the game and we're having a technical problem. Can you help?
#1513 [12:10] <Balee> I'm not complaining.
#1514 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> lucysleftfoot - Could you elaborate?
#1515 [12:10] <l_Am_1337> anyone know what i can use to add "warps" to my server?
#1516 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> l_Am_1337 - Can only do that with a modded server. Check out #bukkit or #canary
#1517 [12:11] <lucysleftfoot> After about 3 minutes, it just goes black (or white) and locks up.
#1518 [12:11] <l_Am_1337> are they more difficult to make?
#1519 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> lucysleftfoot - Any error reports?
#1520 [12:11] <Balee> I'm just curious why the newly generated terrain is so buggy. I mean, if it was different, like more elaborate or something, that would make sense.
#1521 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> l_Am_1337 - See for yourself. http://wiki.bukkit.org/Setting_up_a_server
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#1523 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> http://wiki.bukkit.org/Installing_Plugins
#1524 [12:12] <zenon> My Minecraft wont load?
#1525 [12:12] <zenon> openned it up
#1526 [12:12] <zenon> black screen
#1527 [12:12] <Balee> But this, this doesn't make sense to me. http://wsc.wmdb.org/dump/1fe3e4ba9340c9a206f8ae6ce1b9d33c/2011-11-24_18.06.31.png
#1528 [12:12] <lucysleftfoot> me too
#1529 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> Balee - It's a new algorithm altogether
#1530 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> Balee - It doesn't look at the old generation code, or any chunks that have been generated using a prior code
#1531 [12:13] <Balee> Yes, I got that.
#1532 [12:13] <Balee> But.
#1533 [12:13] <zenon> Excuse me sire
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#1535 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> Balee - It goes by the level.dat seed, not by what chunks are next to it
#1536 [12:13] <zenon> but my minecraft is loadfing a black screen?
#1537 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> The seed is what determines what the new chunks look like
#1538 [12:13] <lucysleftfoot> we just bought the game and it goes in to black screen
#1539 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> Not nearby chunks
#1540 [12:13] <Balee> Yes, I got that.
#1541 [12:13] <Balee> But.
#1542 [12:14] <Balee> That doesn't explain such irregularities.
#1543 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Balee - Then what exactly are you trying to convey?
#1544 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Yes it does.
#1545 [12:14] <jkennedy770> Hey I have kind of an odd problem that I haven't been able to find an answer to yet, anyone want to help me brainstorm?
#1546 [12:15] <lucysleftfoot> sure
#1547 [12:15] <Balee> Wait.
#1548 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Balee - In the old seed, the world generation code for that area was marked as cold, tundra, water. The new seed was probably mountainous.
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#1550 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Hence why you have that mismatch
#1551 [12:15] <zenon> If you have a black screen
#1552 [12:15] <zenon> go to options
#1553 [12:15] <zenon> -force up date
#1554 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> If you deleted that chunk, and have it rengenerate, it'll use the new world generation code to remake that chunk
#1555 [12:15] <zenon> then open minecraft
#1556 [12:16] <Balee> Lemme check my map.
#1557 [12:16] <zenon> it will update and work fine
#1558 [12:16] <Sm1ley_> The launcher stopped working for me when 1.8 came out (I'm on a mac btw) I couldn't get it to work however the linux launcher still works for me. Since then though its lowered the amount of memory minecraft uses and won't let me change the sound/music volume (attempting to change either freezes minecraft)
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#1560 [12:16] <Balee> GreyVulpine: Why I don't get this...
#1561 [12:16] <yoyo_power> Can i ask for help?
#1562 [12:16] <Balee> Is that I never been to this area before.
#1563 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Balee - Apparently you have
#1564 [12:16] <Sm1ley_> Updating hasn't fixed it, nor has using terminal to allocate more memory to minecraft
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#1566 [12:16] <Jovet> yoyo_power: you could, but you could just blurt out your problem too ;)
#1567 [12:17] <amphiboly> If I use mod manager to install other mods, do I tell it to install other mods as well as modloader, which in turn installs risu's mods? It sounds too confusing to work
#1568 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> Balee - chunks are generated automatically in a 9x9 area around the character
#1569 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> amphiboly - We don't help with mods around here, too many mods, too many possible combinations. It's hell to figure it all out
#1570 [12:17] <yoyo_power> I get a message whenever i try to join a sever it is "connecting to the server" i left it for 1 day and it never moved any ideas, thanks.
#1571 [12:17] <Balee> Was that changed with updates?
#1572 [12:17] <Balee> The area around the player I mean.
#1573 [12:17] <Balee> 9x9.
#1574 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> Balee - No, that's always been like that
#1575 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> yoyo_power - Most likely the server is down?
#1576 [12:17] <Balee> Weird.
#1577 [12:18] <yoyo_power> No since others are on it.
#1578 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> Balee - So even if you were at that exact area before, you were likely close by
#1579 [12:18] <Jovet> yoyo_power: it says that for hours? never changes to anything else? is the client locked p?
#1580 [12:18] <Balee> I'm looking at my map now.
#1581 [12:18] <yoyo_power> Thanks for answering.
#1582 [12:18] <Sm1ley_> anybody have an idea what my issue is?
#1583 [12:18] <Balee> I was close by yes, but...
#1584 [12:18] <Sm1ley_> its kind of a tricky one, I haven't been able to fix it yet
#1585 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> Sm1ley_ - The launcher was updated for 1.8
#1586 [12:18] <Balee> There are... how should I call them...
#1587 [12:18] <yoyo_power> I have reinstalled the game deleting the entire folder.
#1588 [12:18] <Balee> Stray chunks loaded.
#1589 [12:18] <yoyo_power> Still says that.
#1590 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, you need to update the launcher, redownload it from minecraft.net/download
#1591 [12:18] <Sm1ley_> I've updated the launcher
#1592 [12:18] <Sm1ley_> double clicking it just makes it close itself
#1593 [12:19] <Balee> Just a moment, I'll cut the corresponding part from my map.
#1594 [12:19] <yoyo_power> i'll try.
#1595 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> Sm1ley_ - How much RAM do you have?
#1596 [12:19] <amphiboly> geryvulpine it sounds like a way to disaster.
#1597 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> Sm1ley_ - Also, what operating system?
#1598 [12:19] <Sm1ley_> my computer has 8gb of ram, OSX Lion
#1599 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> amphiboly - That's what you get for dealing with third-party, fan-made mods.
#1600 [12:19] <Sm1ley_> however minecraft is only allocating..123mb I think?
#1601 [12:19] <Sm1ley_> I'd have to double check
#1602 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> Sm1ley_ - Did you redownload minecraft.app, and launch it directly?
#1603 [12:19] <Sm1ley_> mmhm
#1604 [12:19] <Sm1ley_> thats the odd part
#1605 [12:19] <yoyo_power> Tried, not working.
#1606 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> Not through the dock menu, but actually click on the file you downloaded?
#1607 [12:20] <Sm1ley_> yes
#1608 [12:20] <Jovet> yoyo_power: Is the server on your server list? What does it show for number of users (like 9/20) or latency (green bars)?
#1609 [12:20] <Sm1ley_> its odd, I've tried updating all aspects of it but nothings fixed it
#1610 [12:20] <yoyo_power> It says 11/20, i'll try playing in browser.
#1611 [12:20] <amphiboly> but mcedit sounds so powerful, I don't want my other mods to prevent me from using that
#1612 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Sm1ley_ - Okay, where did you download the minecraft.app to? your applications folder?
#1613 [12:21] <Sm1ley_> let me double check hang on
#1614 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Betting it's a permissions issue, if it doesn't launch at all
#1615 [12:21] <Jovet> yoyo_power: what about my second question?
#1616 [12:21] <Sm1ley_> its in my downloads folder
#1617 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Could you move it to your applications folder?
#1618 [12:21] <yoyo_power> i'll check that now.
#1619 [12:21] <Sm1ley_> sure
#1620 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Tell me when you've done this
#1621 [12:21] <Sm1ley_> its in applications, still won't open
#1622 [12:21] <yoyo_power> 10/65
#1623 [12:21] <Balee> (I'll wait with this until you're done helping them. :) )
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#1625 [12:22] <yoyo_power> one green bar isn't there.
#1626 [12:22] <stomper> My Minecraft wont work :/
#1627 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> Sm1ley_ - Alright, is it still named minecraft.app?
#1628 [12:22] <Jovet> yoyo_power: and when you click Refresh does it change much?
#1629 [12:22] <Sm1ley_> yes
#1630 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> Sm1ley_ - Follow VoxelHead's instructions exactly, please.
#1631 [12:22] <yoyo_power> Not at all.
#1632 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> ??> Sm1ley_ mac/permissions
#1633 [12:22] <Balee> GOD YES!
#1634 [12:22] <VoxelHead> Sm1ley_: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1635 [12:22] <VoxelHead> Sm1ley_: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
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#1637 [12:23] <Balee> I found sugar canes. :3 My cane farm was destroyed by the ice and I didn't have any left.
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#1639 [12:23] <Balee> This is why I was venturing so far just now. Happy moment. :3
#1640 [12:23] <Jovet> Balee: are you using an older map with newer minecraft?
#1641 [12:23] <Balee> Yes.
#1642 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> He is Jovet
#1643 [12:23] <Sm1ley_> Typed that in, response:
#1644 [12:23] <Sm1ley_> usage: chmod [-fhv] [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-a | +a | =a [i][# [ n]]] mode|entry file ...
#1645 [12:23] <Sm1ley_> chmod [-fhv] [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-E | -C | -N | -i | -I] file ...
#1646 [12:23] <Sm1ley_> james-kennedys-macbook:~ jkennedy770$
#1647 [12:23] <Jovet> Balee: Unfortnately that may not work too well. Since the biome and terrain generation code changed, the same seed will give different reslts.
#1648 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> Sm1ley_ - Type in exactly:
#1649 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#1650 [12:24] <Jovet> Balee: So the biomes may be all different and you'll get ice forming where you didn't before, etc.
#1651 [12:24] <Balee> Yes, Jovet, I understand that.
#1652 [12:24] <Sm1ley_> Thats what I typed in, I'll try again though
#1653 [12:24] <Balee> The terrain generation thingy is okay, the biome changes were uncalled for, though.
#1654 [12:24] <Jovet> Balee: What is your question/problem then? I was too late in here to see it.
#1655 [12:25] <Balee> I'm curious, because...
#1656 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> terrain changes = biome changes as well
#1657 [12:25] <Jovet> Balee: The two go hand-in-hand though. The biomes had to change because they're now much much larger.
#1658 [12:25] <Balee> I'm seeing individual, old chunks surrounded by new chunks.
#1659 [12:25] <Sm1ley_> Hm I got the same response
#1660 [12:25] <Balee> I cut out the area on my map.
#1661 [12:25] <Balee> http://wsc.wmdb.org/dump/bcc0bbb834190a926c6e2fea46d02615/World1_normal_north_cut.PNG
#1662 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> Sm1ley_ - Are you sure it's still named Minecraft.app when you moved it to the applications folder?
#1663 [12:25] <Sm1ley_> Yes I just double checked
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#1665 [12:26] <Jovet> Balee: Did you say you'd used something like MCEdit to remove generated chunks?
#1666 [12:26] <Balee> You can see the old chunks out on the sea.
#1667 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Sm1ley_- alright. try this:
#1668 [12:26] <Balee> Nope.
#1669 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Sm1ley_ - In your terminal, type in: chmod +x
#1670 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> drag the Minecraft.app into the terminal from the applications folder
#1671 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Then finish it off with:
#1672 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> /Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#1673 [12:27] <Jovet> Balee: While that could be a bug in Minecraft, I would wonder about the actual mapping program first.
#1674 [12:27] <amphiboly> can mcedit be used with mods that modloader does not load?
#1675 [12:27] <Balee> Also chances are the last time I was around that area was when I made the over-ground dirt path you can see in the lower right corner.
#1676 [12:27] <Balee> Cartograph G.
#1677 [12:27] <Balee> Bzt.
#1678 [12:27] <Balee> *But
#1679 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> Sm1ley_ - Once you have all that on one line, press enter
#1680 [12:27] <Balee> The chunks really are there.
#1681 [12:28] <Balee> http://wsc.wmdb.org/dump/1fe3e4ba9340c9a206f8ae6ce1b9d33c/2011-11-24_18.06.31.png
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#1683 [12:28] <Balee> Wait, that's a different screenie.
#1684 [12:28] <Sm1ley_> I got the same response
#1685 [12:28] <Sm1ley_> usage: chmod [-fhv] [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-a | +a | =a [i][# [ n]]] mode|entry file ...
#1686 [12:28] <Sm1ley_> chmod [-fhv] [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-E | -C | -N | -i | -I] file ...
#1687 [12:28] <Balee> That's the now-shoreline.
#1688 [12:28] <Jovet> Balee: Is this a single-player world or a mutli-player world?
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#1690 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> Sm1ley_ - Could I see the entire line you're putting in before htat?
#1691 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> that*
#1692 [12:29] <Balee> SP.
#1693 [12:29] <mib_icvbzv> i cant play minecraft
#1694 [12:29] <Balee> And I'm referring to parts like this. http://wsc.wmdb.org/dump/312732fd96e3fa9bc4f86bcaf9865b9a/2011-11-24_18.04.59.png
#1695 [12:29] <Sm1ley_> http://pastebin.com/gVa1z2EN GreyVulpine
#1696 [12:29] <Jovet> Balee: Hmmm well that looks like the map is accurate
#1697 [12:29] <mib_icvbzv> can someone help me
#1698 [12:29] <WugBot> mib_icvbzv: (ww) Help you with what?
#1699 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Sm1ley_ - There's a space between +x and /
#1700 [12:30] <mib_icvbzv> i cant play minecraft
#1701 [12:30] <Balee> Indeed.
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#1703 [12:30] <Sm1ley_> ah, let me try again
#1704 [12:30] <Jovet> mib_icvbzv: please provide more information about "how you can't play minecraft"
#1705 [12:30] <mib_icvbzv> it gets to part of the starting load but then just stopps
#1706 [12:31] <Jovet> Balee: I haven't seen anything like that happen before. Checked the disk for errors?
#1707 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> Sm1ley_ - If you don't get anything back in the console, it's a good sign. Launch minecraft afterwards using the minecraft.app in your applications folder
#1708 [12:31] <Jovet> mib_icvbzv: so loading up before you log in?
#1709 [12:31] <Balee> There is no sign of disk errors.
#1710 [12:31] <Sm1ley_> oh hey that worked!
#1711 [12:31] <mib_icvbzv> no
#1712 [12:31] <Balee> It is fragmented though.
#1713 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> Sm1ley_ - Simple permissions issue.
#1714 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> Sm1ley_ - the minecraft.app wasn't marked as an executable, is all
#1715 [12:31] <Balee> I regret deleting th... Wait a sec.
#1716 [12:31] <mib_icvbzv> i dont know what to do
#1717 [12:31] <Sm1ley_> Oh thats excellent!
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#1719 [12:32] <Sm1ley_> works great now
#1720 [12:32] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1720 [12:32] <Sm1ley_> remind me to find what server you play on so I can bake you a cake
#1721 [12:32] <Sm1ley_> =p
#1722 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> Hah, thanks.
#1723 [12:32] <Sm1ley_> Lol, thanks again, I'll be off
#1724 [12:32] <mib_icvbzv> can someone help me now
#1725 [12:32] <WugBot> mib_icvbzv: (ww) Help you with what?
#1726 [12:32] <Sm1ley_> much appreciated
#1727 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> Take care
#1728 [12:32] <Jovet> Balee: it's been a while since I've read tech stuff on chunk generation and region files
#1729 [12:32] <Jovet> Balee: it's been a while since I've read tech stuff on chunk generation and region files
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#1731 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - With?
#1732 [12:32] <Balee> I have a cheat world - this same world where I used INVedit to build some things to see how they'd look, but did nothing else, it should be reflecing an older state of the world. Without newly generated chunks.
#1733 [12:33] <Balee> I'll make a map for that too.
#1734 [12:33] <Jovet> mib_icvbzv: [second time] so loading up before you log in?
#1735 [12:33] <mib_icvbzv> yeah it just stops
#1736 [12:33] <Balee> If it's disk error, that area should look more consistent.
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#1738 [12:33] <mib_icvbzv> and i think i deleted one of the folders
#1739 [12:33] <Jovet> Does minecraft do any checksum/hashing of region files anyone?
#1740 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Jovet - Hmm?
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#1742 [12:34] <mib_icvbzv> it says im not allowed on minecraft files too
#1743 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft doesn't do any error correction on chunks, if that's what you're talking about
#1744 [12:34] <Jovet> Balee's problem is odd, in that select chunks are generated new.
#1745 [12:35] <Jovet> yeah that's what I'm asking. hmmm
#1746 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> If a chunk has an error, then minecraft will either lag severely when that chunk is loaded, or crashes
#1747 [12:35] <Jovet> but it won't discard it and regenerated it eh?
#1748 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> No
#1749 [12:35] <Balee> I...
#1750 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> You have to do that manually
#1751 [12:35] * Jovet emails Notch....
#1751 [12:35] <Balee> I had lags twice today.
#1752 [12:36] <Balee> Even though I'm offline.
#1753 [12:36] <Balee> For, like, one second or so.
#1754 [12:36] <Balee> I was stuck mid-jump, shaking.
#1755 [12:36] <Jovet> mib_icvbzv: does that mean you can't log into minecraft.net?
#1756 [12:36] <mib_icvbzv> it gets as far asupdating minecarft
#1757 [12:37] <Jovet> Balee: I'd start with a disk check. Eliminiate the simple things first.
#1758 [12:37] <Balee> Already generated the map with Cartograph.
#1759 [12:37] <mib_icvbzv> no
#1760 [12:37] <mib_icvbzv> i can
#1761 [12:37] <Balee> The "stray" chunks are there.
#1762 [12:38] <Jovet> Balee: Next thing I'd do is safeguard the current world's files, and generate the world again anew.
#1763 [12:38] <mib_icvbzv> what should i do
#1764 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - How far in the download do you get? Does it stop on any specific file?
#1765 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Has minecraft worked before, for you?
#1766 [12:38] <Balee> What the bleepin'...
#1767 [12:39] <mib_icvbzv> all it says is updating minecraft then it crashes
#1768 [12:39] <mib_icvbzv> yes minecraft has worked before
#1769 [12:39] <Jovet> Balee: my point is if your disk is logically or physically damaged then bad chunks could result, and then minecraft may try to recover by regenerating them (since it survived crashing it would seem)
#1770 [12:39] <Balee> http://wsc.wmdb.org/dump/9711d78fa5e13ff08ef5af262bd98fe4/World1-cheat_normal_north_cut.PNG
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#1772 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Ah, do you get any error reports? Any files named hs_err_pid that generate where you have the launcher?
#1773 [12:39] <Balee> No I was referring to chunks getting changed.
#1774 [12:39] <Balee> Or... being different at the least.
#1775 [12:39] <Balee> For some odd reason....
#1776 [12:39] <mib_icvbzv> yes i get the hs err one
#1777 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Could you please share the contents of those via www.pastebin.com, submit it, then give us the address to it so that we may read it?
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#1779 [12:40] <mib_xbqk1i> how do you look at your comp. stats? the pastebin thing..
#1780 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> mib_xbqk1i - Windows?>
#1781 [12:40] <mib_xbqk1i> yea...
#1782 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_xbqk1i win/dxdiag
#1783 [12:40] <VoxelHead> mib_xbqk1i: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1784 [12:40] <mib_icvbzv> what do you do at pastebin
#1785 [12:40] <mib_i0drq6> I cannot connect to any servers it says cant reach server
#1786 [12:40] <VoxelHead> mib_xbqk1i: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
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#1788 [12:40] <Jovet> Balee: I understand that, but I'm more interested in why they change than that they are.
#1789 [12:40] <Balee> Me too!
#1790 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> God, mibbit people, change you nickname before you come here
#1791 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> your*
#1792 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> We've got mib_i0drq6, mib_icvbzv, mib_xbqk1i...
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#1794 [12:41] <mib_i0drq6> ill change my name
#1795 [12:41] <mib_i0drq6> ill change my name
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#1797 [12:41] <Jovet> Balee: The only way to figure it out is to eliminiate possible causes. A bug in Minecraft maybe can't ever be eliminiated, so gotta try other stuff.
#1798 [12:41] <Jovet> you don't have to leave to do it. lol
#1799 [12:42] <mib_icvbzv> can someone help me
#1800 [12:42] <WugBot> mib_icvbzv: (ww) Help you with what?
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#1802 [12:42] <djmcbiggtits> yo wen mincraft comin out fo xbox
#1803 [12:42] <mib_icvbzv> my computor keeps on crashing at the updating point
#1804 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Got the hs_err_pid file, yes?
#1805 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> djmcbiggtits - We have no ETA on that
#1806 [12:43] <Jovet> I heard spring 2012 sometime for xbox
#1807 [12:43] <djmcbiggtits> yes u do dnt lie
#1808 [12:43] <mib_icvbzv> i deleted the hs err files
#1809 [12:43] <djmcbiggtits> bFWLWGKHWGKLEW
#1810 [12:43] <user> ;kick djmcbiggtits lrn2english
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#1812 [12:43] <Boreeas> :O
#1813 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Those hs_err_pid files would've told us what the error was
#1814 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - If you delete them, we have no idea what is wrong with your minecraft
#1815 [12:44] <mib_icvbzv> how can i download them again
#1816 [12:44] <Jovet> (in other words, delete all but the last one. run the game again to get another one)
#1817 [12:44] <Boreeas> mib_icvbzv: You can't
#1818 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - It only gives you those hs_err_pid files when minecraft crashes
#1819 [12:44] <Boreeas> mib_icvbzv: You have to wait for the game to crash again
#1820 [12:44] <mib_icvbzv> arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
#1821 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - So, run minecraft until it crashes, and generates the hs_err_pid files, paste the contents of it to pastebin.com, and give us the address to it
#1822 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> That way, we can read what the error is, figure out what is wrong, and help you
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#1826 [12:45] <Jovet> Balee: if I were you I'd still check the drive for errors; then backup the current world you're having trouble with; then generate it over again and see if you have problems with that one.
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#1828 [12:46] <mib_icvbzv> they all have different numbers on the end of the hs er
#1829 [12:46] <eoininmoran> when i go into the server menu for all my servers it sayscannot reach server
#1830 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Give us the latest one
#1831 [12:46] <mib_ps9ges> need help downloading textures plz
#1832 [12:46] <mib_icvbzv> which one is that
#1833 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> eoininmoran - Either the server's down, or you're typing in the wrong address
#1834 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Sort by date, you'll see which one is the latest
#1835 [12:46] <Jovet> mib_ps9ges: textures of what?
#1836 [12:46] <eoininmoran> no its up and the address is right
#1837 [12:47] <Intag> everytime i log in minecraft it gives me an error: "LoadLibrary failed with error 998: Invalid access to memory location"
#1838 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> eoininmoran - Ip address?
#1839 [12:47] <mib_ps9ges> texture packs
#1840 [12:47] <mib_icvbzv> ok
#1841 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_ps9ges - Google's a great way to find it. Also, the forums: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/41-texture-packs/
#1842 [12:47] <eoininmoran> no it it is a url server not an ip server the address is mcctf.com
#1843 [12:47] <Balee> Jovet: I do have a defrag planned for the weekend or something.
#1844 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> !check mcctf.com
#1845 [12:48] <eoininmoran> i did
#1846 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> eoininmoran - That server is not up
#1847 [12:48] <Jovet> Balee: a defrag isn't a disk drive check. Try ScanDisk or something better.
#1848 [12:48] <Balee> And I'll try that regenerating thing now, just wanted to go home with my character.
#1849 [12:48] <eoininmoran> it is others are on it it says it onn the site
#1850 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> eoininmoran - I just checked with our bot. It is not up.
#1851 [12:48] <eoininmoran> ok
#1852 [12:48] <mib_icvbzv> how do you get that file to the paste bin
#1853 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Open up the hs_err_pid file.
#1854 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Got it open?
#1855 [12:49] <Balee> Doesn't defrag locate errors by itself? :o
#1856 [12:49] <Balee> I remembered it did.
#1857 [12:49] <Intag> everytime i log in minecraft it gives me an error: "LoadLibrary failed with error 998: Invalid access to memory location"
#1858 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> Balee - No it doesn't
#1859 [12:49] <Balee> D'aaaaw!
#1860 [12:49] <mib_icvbzv> yeah
#1861 [12:49] <Jovet> Balee: It can, but it will take a lot longer than a straight error check.
#1862 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Go up to edit -> select all. Then edit -> copy
#1863 [12:49] <Balee> ScanDisk.
#1864 [12:49] <Balee> I used to have that.
#1865 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Got that done?
#1866 [12:49] <Balee> Might as well get a newer one though.
#1867 [12:50] <Jovet> Balee: if you press Windows+R and enter: diskmgmt.msc and press Enter, you should see a list of drives. You can check them by right-clicking on them.
#1868 [12:50] <mib_icvbzv> yes
#1869 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Go to http://www.pastebin.com in your browser. Tell me when you're there.
#1870 [12:50] <mib_icvbzv> im there
#1871 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Do you see the text box beneath "Create new paste"?
#1872 [12:50] <Jovet> I'll be back.
#1873 [12:51] <mib_icvbzv> done
#1874 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> Put your cursor in the box, click it. Then right click and select "paste"
#1875 [12:51] <mib_xbqk1i> thanks voxelhead :3 for the prompt thing :3
#1876 [12:51] <Intag> everytime i log in minecraft it gives me an error: "LoadLibrary failed with error 998: Invalid access to memory location"
#1877 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Did you paste a bunch of text in the box?
#1878 [12:51] <Balee> Jovet: Right clicking? That doesn't seem to give me any related options.
#1879 [12:52] <mib_icvbzv> yes
#1880 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Do you see the Submit button beneath the text box? Press it.
#1881 [12:52] <mib_icvbzv> done
#1882 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Now, look at your browser's http:// bar, what does it say?
#1883 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Give us the full http:// line
#1884 [12:52] <mib_icvbzv> http://pastebin.com/WhNvagVT
#1885 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> Thank you, one moment
#1886 [12:53] <Balee> It does have a blue line there, though, and under that it says it's flawless.
#1887 [12:53] <Balee> I can't quote, my XP is Hungarian.
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#1889 [12:54] <Balee> Oh God how I wish if that person who's listening to some shitty music a few flats away would get an earbleed.
#1890 [12:54] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Looks like an issue with your Intel video drivers. Could you please go here:
#1891 [12:54] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_icvbzv gpu/intel
#1892 [12:54] <Balee> if -> for
#1893 [12:54] <VoxelHead> mib_icvbzv: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1894 [12:54] <Balee> My kb is resonating.
#1895 [12:54] <GreyVulpine> mib_icvbzv - Use the Intel driver update utility link, run it, it should tell you what video/graphics drivers you need to download and install
#1896 [12:55] <Balee> GreyVulpine, is Survival/Creative indifferent to map generation?
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#1898 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1899 [12:55] <Balee> Kewl.
#1900 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> Map generation is the same whether you're in single player/multiplayer, creative or survival
#1901 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> It only changes if the map generation code was changed, like in 1.8 or tweaked slightly in 1.0.0
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#1903 [12:56] <Balee> Golly.
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#1906 [12:57] <SAWGGER> hey how do i download mc patcher fo minecraft like i cnt find a website
#1907 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> SAWGGER - Minecraft patches on its own when you log into the launcher.
#1908 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> Unless you're looking for a mod loader.
#1909 [12:58] <mib_icvbzv> all its doing is downloading
#1910 [12:58] <SAWGGER> no like i need it so i can get a mod and a txer pac
#1911 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> SAWGGER - Ah, then f
#1912 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> er
#1913 [12:58] <Jolijn> Hey guys, my minecraft shuts itself
#1914 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-100update-1113-mcpatcher-hd-fix-222/
#1915 [12:58] <Jolijn> any solution?
#1916 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> That should be the latest mcpatcher for 1.0.0
#1917 [12:58] <Jolijn> Well, I can log in to minecraft and all
#1918 [12:58] <Jolijn> and get on a server
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#1920 [12:58] <SAWGGER> i need a website
#1921 [12:59] <SAWGGER> foe mc patcher
#1922 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> SAWGGER - I just gave you one. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-100update-1113-mcpatcher-hd-fix-222/
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#1924 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Jolijn - Do you get any error reports when minecraft crashes?
#1925 [13:00] <Jolijn> Yeah, I get the errorpid thing
#1926 [13:00] <Jolijn> I reinstalled java, and minecraft
#1927 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Jolijn - Could you share the latest one via pastebin.com?
#1928 [13:00] <Jolijn> I gave it more memory
#1929 [13:00] <b33fman> No, you gave it less :P
#1930 [13:00] <SAWGGER> i mean to download it that didnt help i need a website so i can DOWNLAOD mc patcher
#1931 [13:00] <Jolijn> Oh I gave it less
#1932 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> SAWGGER - If you read the post, you'll see they provide several download links
#1933 [13:01] <Jolijn> Thats my allknowing friend :)
#1934 [13:01] <Intag> everytime i log in minecraft it gives me an error: "LoadLibrary failed with error 998: Invalid access to memory location"
#1935 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> SAWGGER - Look under the heading 'Downloads"
#1936 [13:01] <mib_lj4vr1> HELP ME
#1937 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> mib_lj4vr1 - WITH
#1938 [13:01] <Jolijn> Patience is everything...
#1939 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> Jolijn - Pastebin an hs_err_pid file please
#1940 [13:02] <Jolijn> Alright
#1941 [13:02] <Jolijn> the numbers are different every time
#1942 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> Just give us the latest/last one
#1943 [13:02] <mib_lj4vr1> IT WONT PLAY IT TURNS OF AFTER 10 SECS
#1944 [13:02] <Jolijn> Same thing
#1945 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_lj4vr1 - DO YOU GET ANY ERRORS? ANY FILES NAMED HS_ERR_PID? HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO PLAY BEFORE?
#1946 [13:02] <mib_lj4vr1> NO JUST STARTED
#1947 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_lj4vr1 - WHAT OPERATING SYSTEM ARE YOU ON? HOW ARE YOU TRYING TO LAUNCH MINECRAFT? IS THIS ON CLASSIC OR PREMIUM?
#1948 [13:03] <mib_lj4vr1> PLAYING
#1949 [13:03] <SAWGGER> nvm thnaks bra
#1950 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_lj4vr1 - DO YOU GET ANY ERRORS AT ALL?
#1951 [13:03] <mib_lj4vr1> CLASSIC
#1952 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_lj4vr1 - DO YOU GET ANY ERRORS AT ALL?
#1953 [13:03] <Jovet> mib_lj4vr1: please press Caps Lock
#1954 [13:03] <Jolijn> (My browser cant find www.pastebin.com)
#1955 [13:03] <mib_lj4vr1> NO ERROR REPORTS
#1956 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_lj4vr1 - DO YOU GET ANY ERRORS AT ALL? WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENS?
#1957 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> mib_lj4vr1 - HELLO?
#1958 [13:04] <mib_lj4vr1> i went o n single clasik and after 10 seca it went black
#1959 [13:04] <Jovet> Balee: still there?
#1960 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> mib_lj4vr1 - Try clearing your browser's cache and temp files. If that doesn't work, try a different browser, try firefox or chrome or opera
#1961 [13:05] <mib_lj4vr1> ok
#1962 [13:05] <Balee> Yes.
#1963 [13:05] <Balee> Flying over the newly generated map to see what's it like.
#1964 [13:05] <Balee> The area in question is indeed an ocean.
#1965 [13:05] <Jolijn> What did I have to do again?
#1966 [13:05] <Balee> Also...
#1967 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> Jolijn - Copy contents of hs_err_pid file, go to http://www.pastebin.com, paste it there, submit it, give us URL
#1968 [13:05] <Balee> [18:52:25] <Balee> Jovet: Right clicking? That doesn't seem to give me any related options.
#1969 [13:05] <Jovet> Balee: Just because it says the drive is "healthy" doesn't mean it has no errors; it means it's mounted okay and the OS can use it.
#1970 [13:05] <Balee> [18:53:52] <Balee> It does have a blue line there, though, and under that it says it's flawless.
#1971 [13:06] <Balee> [18:53:58] <Balee> I can't quote, my XP is Hungarian.
#1972 [13:06] <Jolijn> kay!
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#1974 [13:06] <Balee> Well you were the one suggesting I checked there! :P
#1975 [13:07] <Intag> everytime i log in minecraft it gives me an error: "LoadLibrary failed with error 998: Invalid access to memory location"
#1976 [13:07] <Thunder7102> What does the Faild to Login:Bad Login mean?
#1977 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> Thunder7102 - Where do you get this?
#1978 [13:07] <Jolijn> http://pastebin.com/VSP77Xu7
#1979 [13:07] <Jovet> Balee: yes, but you need to right-click the drive with Minecraft on it, do "Properties", switch to Tools, and then do Check for Errors
#1980 [13:07] <TheDataBeat> anyone know why minecraft lags on most laptops?
#1981 [13:07] <Thunder7102> Trying to login to any online server
#1982 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> Thunder7102 - Did you pay for minecraft?
#1983 [13:07] <Thunder7102> yes
#1984 [13:07] <Balee> Now that's the info I was missing...
#1985 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> Thunder7102 - Try a force update through the launcher's options menu
#1986 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> Will redownload fresh files for your minecraft
#1987 [13:08] <Thunder7102> where is the force update? I am in 1.0
#1988 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> Jolijn - Hmm, could you give us a dxdiag?
#1989 [13:08] <Jovet> TheDataBeat: probably because most laptops are not made for a pleasant gaming experience.
#1990 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> ??> Jolijn win/dxdiag
#1991 [13:08] <VoxelHead> Jolijn: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1992 [13:08] <VoxelHead> Jolijn: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
#1993 [13:09] <Jovet> Balee: yeah I was thinking there was a command to do it on the menu there but there wasn't. Senile moment.
#1994 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Thunder7102 - before logging in, to the right of the username/password boxes, there should be a button for "Options", click on that. Then "Force Update"
#1995 [13:09] <Thunder7102> I originally used a modded minecraft client, but after the 1.0 update, it should have overwritten it.
#1996 [13:09] <Balee> :)
#1997 [13:09] <Balee> I'm at phase 2.
#1998 [13:09] <TheDataBeat> yeah but mine is, and just cant take it old cp can run without any problems my gaming laptop cant
#1999 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Thunder7102 - Redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download to be sure of that as well
#2000 [13:09] <Jolijn> alright, do I have to put that info on pastebin too?
#2001 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Jolijn - Yes
#2002 [13:09] <Thunder7102> alright, it fixed it
#2003 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> TheDataBeat - Specs of your gaming laptop?
#2004 [13:10] <Balee> This might take a while.
#2005 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> TheDataBeat - i assume you have at least a dedicated graphics card on that thing?
#2006 [13:10] <Jovet> Balee: yes it might. but not as long as a defrag!
#2007 [13:10] <Jolijn> http://pastebin.com/p1mVg7h8
#2008 [13:11] <Balee> Is IRC generating logs interfere with this thing?
#2009 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> Jolijn - Were you walked through updating your video drivers at all, or have you done that recently in the past year or so?
#2010 [13:11] <TheDataBeat> intel core i7 2.00 GHz windows 7 8 gb ram 64 bit operativesystem
#2011 [13:11] <Jolijn> Uhh, no?
#2012 [13:11] <Jovet> Balee: possibly. Anything that writes to the disk can befuddle it and make it start over. If it's doing that, try closing everything.
#2013 [13:11] <Jolijn> I think they are *cough* never *cough* updated
#2014 [13:11] <Balee> Ohkay.
#2015 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> Jolijn - Could be that you're running old drivers, or that video card's showing its age..
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#2017 [13:12] <Balee> I shall be back when it'd done, then.
#2018 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> TheDataBeat - Do you have a dedicated video card in that laptop?
#2019 [13:12] <Balee> Toodles!
#2020 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> TheDataBeat - I'm specifically looking for an answer of Yes, but it also runs optimus or ati's dynamic switchable graphics
#2021 [13:13] <TheDataBeat> okay sorry but did not understand one word of that (know i am alittle noobie)
#2022 [13:13] <Jolijn> Im a noobie too (and a girl) so you're not alone
#2023 [13:13] <TheDataBeat> im not a girl <<....... XD
#2024 [13:13] <Jovet> TheDataBeat: press Windows+R and enter: devmgmt.msc and press enter. What does it say under "Display Adapters" ?
#2025 [13:13] <Jolijn> Hehe
#2026 [13:14] <Jolijn> Uhh, how do I know what videocard I have?
#2027 [13:14] <Jovet> Jolijn: the instructions I just gave should tell you. It's also in the dxdiag report you posted.
#2028 [13:15] <Jovet> "Card name: RADEON X300 Series"
#2029 [13:15] <Jolijn> alrighty
#2030 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> http://support.acer-euro.com/drivers/desktop/aspire_e300.html#driver
#2031 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Jolijn - Try the ATI VGA Catalyst Driver for MS Windows
#2032 [13:15] <Jolijn> Alright, thanks, minute
#2033 [13:16] <Jovet> TheDataBeat: did you understand my instructions?
#2034 [13:16] <Jolijn> okay thats going to take a long time to download for me
#2035 [13:16] <Jolijn> If its done, Ill just 'install' it and come back if it doesnt work?
#2036 [13:16] <TheDataBeat> okay verything is in danish on my pc so XD
#2037 [13:16] <Jolijn> Or do I have to do something else after that
#2038 [13:17] <TheDataBeat> everything*
#2039 [13:17] <Jovet> TheDataBeat: that is okay, what I said should work no matter the language.
#2040 [13:17] <Jovet> TheDataBeat: (well within reason)
#2041 [13:17] <TheDataBeat> i got screencard ?
#2042 [13:17] <Jolijn> Lol, how long should I take to download 25.2 MB?
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#2044 [13:18] <Jolijn> *it
#2045 [13:18] <Jovet> Jolijn: yes, install it when it's done, restart your computer, and try Minecraft again. Come back if you still have issues.
#2046 [13:18] <Jolijn> Alright!
#2047 [13:18] <Jovet> Jolijn: it just depends on your internet connection (and internet congestion)
#2048 [13:18] <Jolijn> Its going to take me 50 minutes
#2049 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Looks like asus's CDN sucks.
#2050 [13:18] <Jolijn> Mhm
#2051 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> I'm barely getting 10K/sec
#2052 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> er, acer.
#2053 [13:19] <TheDataBeat> can you tell me what im looking for. video card or something else ?
#2054 [13:19] <Jovet> maybe everyone wants drivers right now ;)
#2055 [13:19] <Jolijn> Isnt it boring to help people with the same problems every time?
#2056 [13:19] <Jovet> TheDataBeat: whatever it shows you under the "Display Adapaters" (whatever that is in Danish) category.
#2057 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Jolijn - Been here over a year. If it was boring, I wouldn't still be here
#2058 [13:19] <Jolijn> Very true...
#2059 [13:20] <Jovet> Jolin: it's actually a lot easier to help people when you have already solved a problem and know how to approach it.
#2060 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> We still get the occasional stumpers, but I like the challenge of a new problem
#2061 [13:20] <Jolijn> yeah. but are you guys just chatting here all day?
#2062 [13:20] <Jovet> Jolin: we can come and go as we want, and anyone can jump in and help out. I should be watching (American) football right now. hah
#2063 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> Many helpers idle here 24/7
#2064 [13:21] <Jolijn> Pfuu
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#2067 [13:22] <TheNytangel> I don't idle 24/7, but right now I'm cleaning ;)
#2068 [13:22] <Jovet> TheDataBeat: if you still can't figure it out, you could do this:
#2069 [13:22] <TheDataBeat> okay found it but there are two is it nvidia geforce or inter (r) hd ?
#2070 [13:22] <Jovet> ??> TheDataBeat win/dxdiag
#2071 [13:22] <VoxelHead> TheDataBeat: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2072 [13:22] <VoxelHead> TheDataBeat: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
#2073 [13:23] <Jovet> TheDataBeat: what are they listed as exactly?
#2074 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Yes, TheDataBeat does have two video cards, and is running optimus
#2075 [13:23] <Jovet> and I burnt my thumb on the oven. ouch. grrrr
#2076 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> TheDataBeat, in order to solve the lag problem, needs to go into the optimus control panel, and set java to use the nvidia card instead of the intel HD one.
#2077 [13:24] <Intag> everytime i log in minecraft it gives me an error: "LoadLibrary failed with error 998: Invalid access to memory location"
#2078 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> The optimus system, by default, sets java to use the low-powered intel hd video chipset instead of the nvidia card.
#2079 [13:24] <TheDataBeat> inter(r) HD Graphics family and NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M
#2080 [13:24] <TheDataBeat> ok
#2081 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Instructions are here: http://josoft.net/post/2011/01/18/Minecraft-on-your-Nvidia-Optimus-laptop.aspx
#2082 [13:25] <TheDataBeat> ok ty
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#2084 [13:25] <Balee> Done.
#2085 [13:25] <Balee> Now what?
#2086 [13:26] <Balee> Jovet: It only gave a "Disk check is complete" message. Nothing else.
#2087 [13:26] <Jovet> Balee: did it indicate it found any errors? okay.
#2088 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Intag - Try a complete uninstall/reinstall of java, make sure you're running a fresh install of java 6. Follow that up with a fresh install of your video card drivers?
#2089 [13:26] <Jovet> Balee: how does the newly-generated world look?
#2090 [13:26] <Balee> That area in particular, where the weird chunks were, is an ocean.
#2091 [13:27] <Balee> Well, ocean/icefield.
#2092 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> If you want, there are utilities out there to ensure a nuke of all prior video card driver files on your computer. I can personally recommend Driver Sweeper: http://phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html
#2093 [13:27] <Jovet> Balee: Was it ocean originally and the "land" chunks were odd, or the other way around?
#2094 [13:27] <Balee> The other way around.
#2095 [13:27] <Balee> It was land.
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#2097 [13:28] <Jovet> Balee: I don't know why the chunks were re-generated, but it's obvious why they changed.
#2098 [13:28] <Balee> You mean 1.0?
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#2100 [13:29] <turbinefire> hey iam in need of som suport i just bougth the game but no servers apear on the multiplayer list.
#2101 [13:29] <Jovet> Balee: The lag you were describing could be symptomatic of minecraft dealing with faulty chunk data, like GreyVulpine pointed out.
#2102 [13:29] <Balee> Well.
#2103 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> turbinefire - The server list doesn't populate itself. It's there for you to put in server you like.
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#2105 [13:29] <Jovet> Balee: The generation/biome code was changed prior to 1.0... it was in 1.81 beta or so, I forget exactly when.
#2106 [13:29] <Balee> I thought it was only because it had to keep generating new chunks.
#2107 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> To find a list of servers, you can try these websites:
#2108 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> ??> turbinefire smp/servers
#2109 [13:29] <Balee> Yes, yes.
#2110 [13:29] <VoxelHead> turbinefire: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2111 [13:30] <VoxelHead> turbinefire: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2112 [13:30] <Jovet> Balee: it will generate new chunks as you move around, but existing ones normally shoudln't change or re-generate.
#2113 [13:30] <Balee> Yes.
#2114 [13:30] <Balee> But.
#2115 [13:30] <Balee> They didn't change.
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#2117 [13:31] <dusten[CAROL]> hey
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#2119 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2120 [13:31] <turbinefire> ty ;D
#2121 [13:31] <Jovet> Balee: So the chunks of land changing to ocean wasn't a change....? *confused*
#2122 [13:31] <Balee> They were ungenerated chunks. The ones that later got generated into ocean.
#2123 [13:31] <Balee> I might be confusing occasionally.
#2124 [13:32] <Balee> Look at this pic. http://wsc.wmdb.org/dump/9711d78fa5e13ff08ef5af262bd98fe4/World1-cheat_normal_north_cut.PNG
#2125 [13:32] <mib_apgwfb> Hello, i have a problem with the launcher...
#2126 [13:32] <Balee> The chunks loaded here are entirely pre-1.8.
#2127 [13:32] <Jovet> Balee: I've never seen it generate some chunks within radius of the player and not others. There shouldn't be "gaps" like your map showed, that was odd.
#2128 [13:32] <dusten[CAROL]> Good afternoon, I have minecraft on my pc. But it gives me an error anyone can help me?
#2129 [13:32] <Balee> I know.
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#2131 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> dusten[CAROL] - Could you copy the error, paste it at www.pastebin.com, submit it, and give us the URL so that we may read it?
#2132 [13:33] <Jovet> Balee: Have you mapped the new world? Does it look smooth and continuous where you've explored?
#2133 [13:33] <Balee> You mean the new new one?
#2134 [13:33] <Balee> I haven't mapped it, but it did look smooth.
#2135 [13:33] <Jovet> Balee: Yeah the one you created earlier and were exploring
#2136 [13:33] <Balee> It looked natural.
#2137 [13:34] <dusten[CAROL]> Bad video card drivers!
#2138 [13:34] <dusten[CAROL]> -----------------------
#2139 [13:34] <dusten[CAROL]> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#2140 [13:34] <dusten[CAROL]> This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#2141 [13:34] <dusten[CAROL]> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 --------
#2142 [13:34] <dusten[CAROL]> Generated 24-11-2011 18:33
#2143 [13:34] <dusten[CAROL]> Minecraft: Minecraft 1.0.0
#2144 [13:34] <Balee> Compare the previous picture to this.
#2145 [13:34] <Balee> http://wsc.wmdb.org/dump/bcc0bbb834190a926c6e2fea46d02615/World1_normal_north_cut.PNG
#2146 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> dusten[CAROL] - Gah. pastebin.com, not here
#2147 [13:34] <dusten[CAROL]> Bad video card drivers!
#2148 [13:34] <dusten[CAROL]> -----------------------
#2149 [13:34] <dusten[CAROL]> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#2150 [13:34] <dusten[CAROL]> This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#2151 [13:34] <dusten[CAROL]> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 --------
#2152 [13:34] <dusten[CAROL]> Generated 24-11-2011 18:33
#2153 [13:34] <turbinefire> why is it that i got version 1.0.0 if 1.0.1 is out ?
#2154 [13:34] <Jovet> Balee: World files do get corrupted, sometimes without exlanation :-/
#2155 [13:35] <Balee> Yes, but.
#2156 [13:35] <Balee> Take a closer look.
#2157 [13:35] <Balee> There's snow in the middle on one. D:
#2158 [13:35] <Balee> And none in the other.
#2159 [13:35] <dusten[CAROL]> Bad video card drivers!
#2160 [13:35] <dusten[CAROL]> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#2161 [13:35] <dusten[CAROL]> <dusten[CAROL]> This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#2162 [13:35] <dusten[CAROL]> <dusten[CAROL]> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 --------
#2163 [13:35] <dusten[CAROL]> Java: 1.7.0_01, Oracle Corporation
#2164 [13:35] <dusten[CAROL]> <dusten[CAROL]> VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Oracle Corporation
#2165 [13:35] <dusten[CAROL]> <dusten[CAROL]> LWJGL: 2.4.2
#2166 [13:35] <dusten[CAROL]> <dusten[CAROL]> [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)]
#2167 [13:35] <dusten[CAROL]> <dusten[CAROL]> org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated
#2168 [13:35] <Balee> dusten[CAROL]: Stop that already dammit!!
#2169 [13:35] <Jovet> grrrrr kick him!
#2170 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> !k dusten[CAROL]
#2171 [13:35] * GreyBot kicked dusten[CAROL] from #minecrafthelp (Reason: usten[CAROL] :<Kicks:860>)
#2172 [13:36] <Jovet> thank you
#2173 [13:36] <mib_apgwfb> Hello, first my minecraft used to work, but after to install some mods, when i run the launcher, the screen became black, i have eliminate and reinstall all the folders and reinstall the game, and the java...
#2174 [13:36] <mib_apgwfb> Pleasee
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#2176 [13:36] <mib_apgwfb> Hello, first my minecraft used to work, but after to install some mods, when i run the launcher, the screen became black, i have eliminate and reinstall all the folders and reinstall the game, and the java...
#2177 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> dusten[CAROL] - Don't do that again.
#2178 [13:36] <dusten[CAROL]> Bad video card drivers!
#2179 [13:36] <dusten[CAROL]> <dusten[CAROL]> -----------------------
#2180 [13:36] <dusten[CAROL]> <dusten[CAROL]> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#2181 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> dusten[CAROL]- It spams the channel if you paste the error here
#2182 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> !k dusten[CAROL]
#2183 [13:36] * GreyBot kicked dusten[CAROL] from #minecrafthelp (Reason: usten[CAROL] :<Kicks:861>)
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#2186 [13:37] <Balee> dusten[CAROL]: STOP DOING THAT ALREADY!
#2187 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> dusten[CAROL] - Stop
#2188 [13:37] <dusten[CAROL]> i'm need help
#2189 [13:37] <mib_apgwfb> hello vulpine, can you try to help me please...?
#2190 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> dusten[CAROL] - Update your video drivers
#2191 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> dusten[CAROL] - That error will go away then
#2192 [13:37] <mib_apgwfb> Hello, first my minecraft used to work, but after to install some mods, when i run the launcher, the screen became black, i have eliminate and reinstall all the folders and reinstall the game, and the java...
#2193 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> I actually need to start heading off now
#2194 [13:37] <Balee> Jovet: Well I guess snow can melt, though.
#2195 [13:37] <mib_apgwfb> please, what i should do?
#2196 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> Thanksgiving and all that
#2197 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_apgwfb - What operating system?
#2198 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_apgwfb - WIndows? Mac? Linux?
#2199 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_apgwfb - Quickly now
#2200 [13:38] <mib_apgwfb> windows
#2201 [13:38] <Balee> Although very weird how they are so rectangle.
#2202 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> What version of windows
#2203 [13:38] <mib_apgwfb> 7
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#2205 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_apgwfb - Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#2206 [13:38] <mib_apgwfb> yeah
#2207 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder. delete everything inside except for saves. Then launch minecraft again
#2208 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> All mods should be gone, and minecraft will download fresh files. It'll work then
#2209 [13:38] <mib_apgwfb> ok, but i have done that...
#2210 [13:38] <Balee> But.
#2211 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> Make sure to download a fresh copy of the launcher as well from minecraft.net/download
#2212 [13:39] <mib_apgwfb> read that
#2213 [13:39] <mib_apgwfb> Hello, first my minecraft used to work, but after to install some mods, when i run the launcher, the screen became black, i have eliminate and reinstall all the folders and reinstall the game, and the java...
#2214 [13:39] <Balee> There are a few other odd things with this.
#2215 [13:39] <Jovet> Balee: okay where were we? what are rectangle?
#2216 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> mib_apgwfb - Did you make sure minecraft wasn't running when you deleted .minecraft?
#2217 [13:39] <Balee> Just to clarify.
#2218 [13:39] <mib_apgwfb> im not sure...
#2219 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> mib_apgwfb - Check .minecraft, make sure nothing's in the folder except for the saves folder
#2220 [13:40] <mib_apgwfb> why?
#2221 [13:40] <Jovet> Balee: I don't know why those two map images look differnet because I don't know the context of them.
#2222 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> If minecraft was still running, it won't delete some files
#2223 [13:40] <mib_apgwfb> ok thanks i will try
#2224 [13:40] <Balee> I'm gonna refer to World1-cheat_normal_north_cut.PNG as "cheat map" and to World1_normal_north_cut.PNG as "normal map".
#2225 [13:40] <Balee> Not sure what context do you need.
#2226 [13:40] <Balee> Up until some point, they were the same map.
#2227 [13:41] <mib_apgwfb> okok
#2228 [13:41] <mib_apgwfb> thanks
#2229 [13:41] <Balee> Then I copied the world and renamed it, and did some underground exploring within my already generated territory.
#2230 [13:41] <Jovet> Balee: You said the "cheat" one's chunks were generated outside of Minecraft?
#2231 [13:41] <dusten[CAROL]> http://pastebin.com/UnVNqQMb
#2232 [13:41] <Balee> No.
#2233 [13:41] <dusten[CAROL]> i see the error that gives me and help me please
#2234 [13:41] <Balee> The only cheating I did there was inventory editing.
#2235 [13:42] <Balee> Basically I wanted to TNT my way to some dungeons in hopes to find creeper spawners.
#2236 [13:42] <mib_apgwfb> not, it still doesn't working...
#2237 [13:42] <Balee> I didn't know they don't exist.
#2238 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> dusten[CAROL] - Give us a dxdiag
#2239 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> ??> dusten[CAROL] win/dxdiag
#2240 [13:42] <VoxelHead> dusten[CAROL]: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2241 [13:42] <VoxelHead> dusten[CAROL]: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
#2242 [13:42] <Jovet> (creeper spawners don't exist except through map editing)
#2243 [13:42] <Balee> The chunks were generated with MC.
#2244 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, need to head off. Take care folks, have a happy thanksgiving
#2245 [13:42] <Balee> *Don't exist naturally.
#2246 [13:42] <Balee> See ya, GreyVulpine!
#2247 [13:42] <Jovet> you too Grey, enjoy whatever you're eating
#2248 [13:42] <Balee> :)
#2249 [13:43] <mib_apgwfb> ok thanks
#2250 [13:43] <mib_apgwfb> Hello, first my minecraft used to work, but after to install some mods, when i run the launcher, the screen became black, and in the website doesn't work too. i have eliminate and reinstall all the folders and reinstall the game, and the java...
#2251 [13:43] <mib_apgwfb> any other op please?
#2252 [13:43] <Jovet> dusten[CAROL]: how old is your computer?
#2253 [13:43] <mib_apgwfb> mine is new
#2254 [13:43] <Jovet> mib_apgwfb: one doesn't have to be an Op to help :P
#2255 [13:43] <mib_apgwfb> a ok :)
#2256 [13:44] <mib_apgwfb> so can you help me?
#2257 [13:44] <Jovet> mib_apgwfb: I can try but you might have to take a number. hah
#2258 [13:44] <mib_apgwfb> ok xD
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#2260 [13:44] <mib_apgwfb> i take one
#2261 [13:44] <Jovet> Balee: are those maps of the entire world?
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#2263 [13:45] <Jovet> mib_apgwfb: you can change your nickname to something more sensible by entering: /nick nickanmetouse
#2264 [13:45] <Balee> No, I cut them because the entire map would be 1MB in case of the cheat map and 3 in case of the normal.
#2265 [13:45] <Balee> But that is the side of the map.
#2266 [13:45] <mib_apgwfb> thanks
#2267 [13:45] <Jovet> Balee: do the chunk anomalies happen anywhere else on the map?
#2268 [13:45] <Balee> Nope.
#2269 [13:46] <Jovet> Balee: have you had minecraft crash on you often?
#2270 [13:46] <Balee> Hmmm...
#2271 [13:46] <Isaac> .
#2272 [13:46] <Balee> Not sure.
#2273 [13:46] <Jovet> Isaac: if that nickname is registered you might need to change it
#2274 [13:46] <Jovet> Isaac: yeah pick another nickname
#2275 [13:47] <Balee> I do believe I had some crashes, but.
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#2277 [13:47] <Jiap> ok thanks
#2278 [13:47] <Jiap> i am jiap now
#2279 [13:47] <Balee> That area is completely outside of my routine.
#2280 [13:47] <Jovet> Balee: in theory if minecraft crashes at just the wrong moment it could corrupt one or more chunks
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#2282 [13:48] <Jiap> Someone now can hel me please?
#2283 [13:48] <Jovet> ??> dusten[CAROL] win/dxdiag
#2284 [13:48] <VoxelHead> dusten[CAROL]: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2285 [13:48] <Balee> Meaning I almost never go there. Actually the first and for a long while last time I did was when I was looking for my spawn point.
#2286 [13:48] <VoxelHead> dusten[CAROL]: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
#2287 [13:48] <Jovet> yes Jiap what is your issue?
#2288 [13:48] <Jiap> Hello, first my minecraft used to work, but after to install some mods, when i run the launcher, the screen became black, and in the website doesn't work too. i have eliminate and reinstall all the folders and reinstall the game, and the java...
#2289 [13:49] <Jovet> Jiap: you installed java 1.6.29 ?
#2290 [13:49] <Balee> After that first time and the next, I might have had crashes. But they definitely stopped before I went there again.
#2291 [13:49] <Jiap> i think so, give me one sec...
#2292 [13:49] <Balee> I used to have a pirated copy of MC, you see.
#2293 [13:50] <Jovet> Balee: sounds to me like you had some world corruption, maybe from crashes. There's not much more to be said than that.
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#2295 [13:50] <Jiap> no, i have 6.0.290
#2296 [13:50] <Balee> And I know my cheat map, where I got close to that area again - as you can see in the right side of the map, that rectangle-ish shape - was made after I bought the game.
#2297 [13:50] <Jovet> Balee: if the newly generated world is working well, then I'd proceed with that one
#2298 [13:51] <Jovet> (Jiap, that's 1.6.29, it's lying to you :D )
#2299 [13:51] <dusten[CAROL]> Yeah there the dxdiag - http://pastebin.com/eAAYxLey
#2300 [13:51] <Balee> I don't mind it being like this, though.
#2301 [13:51] <Jiap> sorry, do you mean that is that the problem?
#2302 [13:51] <dusten[CAROL]> help me please
#2303 [13:51] <Jiap> i am spanish, and i dont know a lot of englih sorry
#2304 [13:51] <Balee> And I have so much built already that I wouldn't want to leave that world. :)
#2305 [13:52] <Jovet> dusten[CAROL]: do you have a video card in the computer, or is your monitor plugged into the motherboard?
#2306 [13:52] <Balee> Like I said earlier, it's not a problem, I was just curious as to what could cause those gaps.
#2307 [13:52] <Jiap> Do you mean that he problem is the version of Java?
#2308 [13:52] <Balee> Apparently it could be corruption then.
#2309 [13:52] <Jovet> Balee: you can keep using the old world if you like, you'll just have to live with the chunk problems, and the biome seams if you explore new areas on it.
#2310 [13:52] <Balee> I guess I'll manage somehow. :)
#2311 [13:52] <Jovet> Jiap: your Java is fine.
#2312 [13:52] <Jiap> a ok
#2313 [13:53] <Balee> Luckily when you cover water it doesn't freeze.
#2314 [13:53] <Jiap> So what i should do?
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#2316 [13:53] <Ninja> hey all
#2317 [13:53] <Balee> I can use that to fix my most important things.
#2318 [13:53] <Jovet> Jiap: go to http://www.minecraft.net/download and download the launcher (Minecraft.exe) again.
#2319 [13:53] <Ninja> Happy ThanksGiving
#2320 [13:53] <Jovet> you too Ninja
#2321 [13:53] <Jiap> i have done that...
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#2323 [13:53] <Jovet> Jiap: did you overwrite the existing Minecraft.exe you had?
#2324 [13:54] <Jiap> i have done that...
#2325 [13:54] <Ninja> im leaving out at 3:00 EST to goto dinner
#2326 [13:54] <Jiap> :)
#2327 [13:54] <Jiap> yess
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#2329 [13:54] <dusten[CAROL]> I have not the game that is 86 bits, and my pc can handle only 32 bits?
#2330 [13:54] <Jovet> I won't be eating until around 4 EST ;)
#2331 [13:55] <Ninja> i mean i have reservations at 4 but im leaving the chat at 3 to get ready
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#2333 [13:55] <Ninja> lol
#2334 [13:55] <Jiap> please jovet...
#2335 [13:55] <Jovet> dusten[CAROL]: there's no such thing as 86 bits. ;) the term "x86" usually refers to 32-bit (specifically the Extended Intel 386 processor architecture)
#2336 [13:55] <Ninja> lol
#2337 [13:56] <dusten[CAROL]> So, what can I do for this to sff?
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#2339 [13:56] <Jovet> Balee: I've had to kiss a few old worlds goodbye just because of the biome changes, but I look forward to making new stuff on new worlds. :) I don't expect the biome code to change much now that Minecraft is out of Beta.
#2340 [13:56] <Balee> Hopefully! :)
#2341 [13:56] <Jiap> Hello, first my minecraft used to work, but after to install some mods, when i run the launcher, the screen became black, and in the website doesn't work too. i have eliminate and reinstall all the folders and reinstall the game, and the java...
#2342 [13:56] <Jovet> Jiap: what kind of anti-virus software do you have installed?
#2343 [13:57] <Balee> It did screw up our cool moat around our town on SMP, though. :(
#2344 [13:57] <dusten[CAROL]> So, what can I do for this to sff?
#2345 [13:57] <Jiap> AVG 2012
#2346 [13:57] <dusten[CAROL]> So, what can I do for this to?
#2347 [13:57] <Jiap> but first it works with the same antyvius
#2348 [13:57] <Crystalwolf> WHat does anti-virus matter?
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#2350 [13:57] <Jovet> dusten[CAROL]: does your monitor plug into a video card in an expansion slot, or into the motherboard?
#2351 [13:58] <Ninja> it matters
#2352 [13:58] <Jovet> some Anti-Virus software can interfere with Minecraft, marking parts of it as malicious that really aren't. AVG is one such program.
#2353 [13:58] <Ninja> because if your anti virus software doesnt allow minecraft to run through
#2354 [13:58] <Jovet> Jiap: If I were you I'd try completely disabling AVG (incluing the Link Scanning feature) and seeing if that solves your problem.
#2355 [13:58] <Crystalwolf> Oh AVG -shivers- I. Hate. It.
#2356 [13:58] <Ninja> then you are screws
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#2358 [13:59] <Jiap> but first it works with the same antivirus
#2359 [13:59] <Jovet> Ninja: no, if anti-virus software is the culprit, it can be told to ignore minecraft.
#2360 [13:59] <Ninja> exactly
#2361 [13:59] <mib_dddy22> my minecraft wont load
#2362 [14:00] <Jovet> mib_dddy22: please pick a more sensible nickname for chatting here, and then enter the command: /nick newnickname
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#2364 [14:00] <Ninja> lol nice try tho
#2365 [14:01] <Jiap> ok i have doit, lets see if now it works...
#2366 [14:01] <Jiap> Noo...
#2367 [14:02] <Jovet> Jiap: Sure you got it all disabled? you might have to turn multiple "features" off separately.
#2368 [14:02] <Jiap> i have done an exeption
#2369 [14:02] <Jiap> for minecraft.exe
#2370 [14:02] <Jovet> Jiap: that won't necessarily help. Try disabling it COMPLETELY first. and if that solves it then we know the AV is the problem.
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#2372 [14:03] <Jiap> and i dont think that this is the problem, because first it was working
#2373 [14:03] <Jiap> ok, i am going
#2374 [14:03] <Jovet> Jiap: I was just about to ask. It used to work? And then what changed?
#2375 [14:03] <Jiap> i just install some mods...
#2376 [14:03] <flabbergaster> i need help with minecraft
#2377 [14:03] <Jiap> the yogbox
#2378 [14:03] <Jiap> and after, it doesnt load
#2379 [14:04] <Jovet> Jiap: client mods can do that. You have removed them though, right?
#2380 [14:04] <Jiap> i have reinstalled and eliminate
#2381 [14:04] <Jiap> yeah
#2382 [14:04] <Jovet> hi flabbergaster
#2383 [14:04] <flabbergaster> my minecraft wont load
#2384 [14:04] <flabbergaster> i get on and it is all blurry
#2385 [14:05] <Jovet> flabbergaster: blurry? hmmmm
#2386 [14:05] <flabbergaster> there are floating orange things
#2387 [14:05] <Jovet> Jiap: when you go to "Options" and the "Force Update" it appeared to download everything okay?
#2388 [14:05] <flabbergaster> that spin
#2389 [14:05] <Jiap> give me one sec
#2390 [14:05] <flabbergaster> im new to this
#2391 [14:06] <dusten[CAROL]> people , help me please
#2392 [14:06] <flabbergaster> i dont really know much
#2393 [14:06] <Jovet> flabbergaster: what kind of computer/operating system? Windows? Mac? Linux?
#2394 [14:06] <Jiap> yeah...
#2395 [14:06] <flabbergaster> windows
#2396 [14:06] <Jovet> flabbergaster: which version of Windows?
#2397 [14:06] <flabbergaster> i think 8
#2398 [14:06] <clarjon1> Sounds like vista or 7
#2399 [14:07] <Jovet> dusten[CAROL]: I've asked you three times now.... what does your monitor plug into? An expansion card, or, the motherboard?
#2400 [14:07] <Jiap> xD
#2401 [14:07] <flabbergaster> i dont know
#2402 [14:07] <Jovet> you can quickly tell what type of Windows by opening the Start menu and reading it.
#2403 [14:07] <Jiap> oh God...
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#2405 [14:08] <vinnie2k> Hi
#2406 [14:08] <Jovet> Hi
#2407 [14:08] <Jiap> hey
#2408 [14:08] <flabbergaster> i dont see that on start
#2409 [14:08] <vinnie2k> Any issues connecting to the site?
#2410 [14:08] <clarjon1> flabbergaster: Could you press the Windows key and hte "Prnt Scrn" keys on your keyboard at the same time
#2411 [14:08] <Jovet> vinnie2k: there have been intermittant issues for a while.
#2412 [14:08] <vinnie2k> Just to be sure, asked for my login, reset my password, no dice
#2413 [14:08] <Jiap> flabbergaster, go to computer and right click
#2414 [14:08] * Jovet has no idea what that does clarjon1. lol
#2414 [14:08] <vinnie2k> Jovet: OK
#2415 [14:08] <Jiap> go to propietietis
#2416 [14:09] <clarjon1> Jovet: same as right click computer -> properties
#2417 [14:09] <Jovet> vinnie2k: yes it doesn't mean your password is actually wrong, it could be the site. Try again in 5-10 minutes.
#2418 [14:09] <flabbergaster> im sorry what is the print button does it have a picture?
#2419 [14:09] <vinnie2k> OK thanks
#2420 [14:09] <vinnie2k> :-)
#2421 [14:09] <Jiap> Oh God
#2422 [14:09] <Jovet> clarjon1: Windows+PrtScrn open's the Properties dialog? since when?
#2423 [14:09] <vinnie2k> Right in
#2424 [14:09] <clarjon1> flabbergaster: On most keyboards, its in the row above the "insert home pageup" keys. It's usually grouped with the "pause" and "scroll lock" keys
#2425 [14:10] <vinnie2k> Go figure
#2426 [14:10] <flabbergaster> got it i think
#2427 [14:10] <clarjon1> Jovet: Try it yourself.
#2428 [14:10] <Jiap> just make right click o computer and properties
#2429 [14:10] <Jiap> there you will se
#2430 [14:10] <Jiap> e
#2431 [14:10] <flabbergaster> oh
#2432 [14:10] <vinnie2k> Thanks
#2433 [14:10] <vinnie2k> Bye :-)
#2434 [14:10] <vinnie2k> Exit
#2435 [14:10] <Jiap> dont ask a lot of times, try to chek all the screen
#2436 [14:10] <Jiap> Please
#2437 [14:10] <Jiap> Hello, first my minecraft used to work, but after to install some mods, when i run the launcher, the screen became black, and in the website doesn't work too. i have eliminate and reinstall all the folders and reinstall the game, and the java...what i should do??
#2438 [14:11] <clarjon1> oh, I mis-remembered, slightly
#2439 [14:11] <clarjon1> it's Winkey + Pause / Break
#2440 [14:11] <Jovet> clarjon1: there 'ya go ;)
#2441 [14:11] <flabbergaster> i dont know any more
#2442 [14:11] <flabbergaster> is there a simpler way
#2443 [14:11] <Jiap> Hello, first my minecraft used to work, but after to install some mods, when i run the launcher, the screen became black, and in the website doesn't work too. i have eliminate and reinstall all the folders and reinstall the game, and the java...what i should do??
#2444 [14:12] <flabbergaster> i am new to minecraft and it isnt working
#2445 [14:13] <Jovet> Jiap: hang on
#2446 [14:13] <flabbergaster> nothing loads right and everything is really pixilated that does load
#2447 [14:13] <Jovet> flabbergaster: how old is your computer?
#2448 [14:13] <flabbergaster> i usually see a lot of dark blue
#2449 [14:13] <Jiap> try to search the answer of your issue on youtube too, please
#2450 [14:14] <flabbergaster> um i am not sure because my dad had it before me and brought it home from work
#2451 [14:14] <flabbergaster> me?
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#2453 [14:14] <Jovet> ??> flabbergaster win/dxdiag
#2454 [14:14] <VoxelHead> flabbergaster: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2455 [14:14] <VoxelHead> flabbergaster: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
#2456 [14:15] <Jiap> Hello, first my minecraft used to work, but after to install some mods, when i run the launcher, the screen became black, and in the website doesn't work too. i have eliminate and reinstall all the folders and reinstall the game, and the java...what i should do??
#2457 [14:15] * Jovet slaps Wug with a slapper.
#2457 [14:15] <Jovet> Jiap: it isn't necessary to repeat your plea every 60 seconds, I said hang on :)
#2458 [14:15] <Jiap> ask to your dad, flabbergaster please
#2459 [14:15] <Jiap> oh sorry,
#2460 [14:15] * Wug baps Jovet
#2460 [14:15] <Jiap> byee
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#2462 [14:15] <Jiap> see you later
#2463 [14:15] <flabbergaster> ok one second
#2464 [14:16] <Jovet> :ts/launcher > Jiap
#2465 [14:16] <WugBot> Jiap: (ts/launcher) Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#2466 [14:16] <WugBot> Jiap: (ts/launcher) Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#2467 [14:16] <Wug> what a nurb
#2468 [14:16] <Jovet> Grrr
#2469 [14:16] * mib_fsufgw [mib_fsufgw@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2470 [14:17] <mib_fsufgw> sorry
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#2472 [14:17] <mib_fsufgw> can you repeat please
#2473 [14:17] <mib_fsufgw> i am jiap
#2474 [14:17] <Wug> :ts/launcher
#2475 [14:17] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#2476 [14:17] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#2477 [14:17] <Jovet> mib_fsufgw: you can enter the /nick Jiab command again
#2478 [14:17] <jiap> ok thanks
#2479 [14:18] <Jovet> Wug: that debug launcher is rather handy. the strange thing is last night somone couldn't get any regular launcher to work, but that one worked flawlessly. hah
#2480 [14:18] * Jovet is leaving in 15 minutes.
#2480 [14:18] <Wug> Jovet: I've seen that before
#2481 [14:19] <Wug> its a real pain
#2482 [14:19] <flabbergaster> hes not home
#2483 [14:19] <jiap> and i can use that one like as a normal>
#2484 [14:19] <jiap> ?
#2485 [14:19] <Wug> I send them the debug launcher so they can figure out why the launcher isnt working
#2486 [14:19] <Wug> and of course the debug one works fine
#2487 [14:19] <Jovet> flabbergaster: did you get that dxdiag report done yet?
#2488 [14:19] <flabbergaster> and he left his phone here
#2489 [14:19] <Jovet> flabbergaster: you don't need your dad, ignore that suggestion.
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#2491 [14:20] <jiap> should i eliminate the meta inf??
#2492 [14:20] <mib_s8x39x> boal i got a problem wit my minecraft
#2493 [14:20] <Jovet> jiap: only if you've installed a mod
#2494 [14:20] <flabbergaster> what is the win button
#2495 [14:20] <flabbergaster> wait he just got home one second
#2496 [14:20] <Jovet> jiap: if you have a completely clean installation then there's no need.
#2497 [14:21] <Jovet> the Win or Windows key is the one with the Windows logo on it, between the Ctrl and Alt keys.
#2498 [14:21] <jiap> ok, but in the winrar that you have send me are just folders, not launchers...
#2499 [14:21] <mib_s8x39x> when i load it up it goes to loading then a black sreen and becomes nonresponsive :/
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#2501 [14:21] <Jovet> flabbergaster: hold down the Windows key, tap the R key, and let go of the Windows key. Then enter: dxdiag and press Enter.
#2502 [14:21] <jiap> sould i replace it for another one in .minecraft?
#2503 [14:21] <flabbergaster> my computer is 7-8 years old
#2504 [14:21] <jiap> Wug?
#2505 [14:22] <jiap> God...
#2506 [14:22] <Jovet> jiap: extract the file(s) to the desktop and double-click the .jar file
#2507 [14:22] <Jovet> flabbergaster: that could be why you're having problems with Minecraft.
#2508 [14:22] <flabbergaster> ok
#2509 [14:23] <jiap> i didn,t get any .jar file...sorry
#2510 [14:23] <mib_s8x39x> okay so i managed to get the inbrowser version to work oce but apart from that it isnt
#2511 [14:23] <Wug> jiap: the file you downloaded is a jar file
#2512 [14:23] <Wug> open it with java, not winrar
#2513 [14:24] <jiap> oh, ok
#2514 [14:24] <Jovet> holy moses it's 68°F here
#2515 [14:24] <mib_s8x39x> :L
#2516 [14:25] * Jovet suddenly wonders why he's sitting at the computer.
#2516 [14:25] <mib_s8x39x> just reinstal your entire .bin folder
#2517 [14:25] <jiap> hahaha
#2518 [14:25] <Jovet> mib_s8x39x: please pick a real nickname, and change yours: /nick newnickname
#2519 [14:26] <mib_s8x39x> i had minecraft on my crappy laptop and it works but it aint working on my desltop any idea y
#2520 [14:26] <jiap> it doesnt work... sorry
#2521 [14:26] <cgboal> better :P
#2522 [14:27] <Jovet> Jiap: it's okay ifit doesn't work, there should be a .log file. Open it up, select it all, Copy it (Ctrl+C), go to http://pastebin.com and paste it (Ctrl+V) , submit it to the site, and give us the link it gives you
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#2524 [14:27] <Jovet> much better :) if a lot of people are in here with those mib_ nicknames it can get confusing quickly.
#2525 [14:28] <jiap> i paste the bin?
#2526 [14:28] <jiap> http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
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#2528 [14:28] <Jovet> jiap: you ran the .jar file you downloaded right? you said it didn't work. It should create a .log file in the same folder as the .jar. That's what you copy and paste, is the contents of that.
#2529 [14:29] <jiap> ok
#2530 [14:29] <Wug> Jovet: the log file is in the .minecraft folder
#2531 [14:29] <Jovet> oh my bad
#2532 [14:29] <Wug> I moved it because it was supposed to put it in the working directory
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#2534 [14:29] <Wug> and on some systems the wd was really weird for no reason and we'd have to dig for it
#2535 [14:29] <Jovet> cgboal: have you tried the download version?
#2536 [14:30] * Jovet suspect virtual file redirection.
#2536 [14:30] <jiap> where it should be the .log file folder?
#2537 [14:30] * Jovet beats his head on the desk pondering "Microsoft" "security" innovation.
#2537 [14:31] <Jovet> jiap: if you press Windows+R and enter: %appdata% and press Enter, you should then see a .minecraft folder. Double-click that and look in there.
#2538 [14:32] <Jovet> jiap: If you can't see file extensions, then you should also make them visible. (Tools menu, Options, View, turn off "Hide file extensions..")
#2539 [14:32] <jiap> ok thanks
#2540 [14:32] <Jovet> I think it's called Minecraft.log but ask Wug for sure. hah
#2541 [14:33] * Jovet is about to leave.
#2541 [14:33] <jiap> noooo
#2542 [14:33] <Wug> it is called minecraft.log
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#2544 [14:34] <Wug> if file extensions are off its just called "minecraft"
#2545 [14:34] <Wug> has a text document icon
#2546 [14:34] <Jovet> that is one of the worst ideas Microsoft ever implemented. GRRR
#2547 [14:35] <Jovet> actually I don't have a problem with it, just that it's on by default
#2548 [14:35] <TheNytangel> Don't worry Wug, I'm cutting my toe nails for the first time in 4 years :D
#2549 [14:35] <Jovet> ...
#2550 [14:35] <jiap> it says that in a read document called minecraft Minecraft Launcher Started. Successfully redirected output to log file. Attempting to login as user: Jiap 27 achievements 174 recipes Setting user: Jiap, 4043497408751757860 WARNING: Found unknown Windows version: Windows 7 Attempting to use default windows plug-in. Loading: net.java.games.input.DirectAndRawIn
#2551 [14:36] <TheNytangel> I have already cut an inch off of one of my big toes
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#2553 [14:37] <Wug> jiap: pastebin it please
#2554 [14:37] <Jovet> see you all later, good luck. Happy Thanksgiving!
#2555 [14:37] <Wug> >pastebin > jiap
#2556 [14:37] <liquid_speaker> yo, registered my nick yesterday and now its not letting me chat in minecraft
#2557 [14:37] <jiap> http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#2558 [14:37] <Wug> ;pastebin > jiap
#2559 [14:37] <Wug> :pastebin > jiap
#2560 [14:37] <WugBot> jiap: (pastebin) Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#2561 [14:37] <Wug> ffff
#2562 [14:37] <jiap> http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#2563 [14:37] <Wug> jiap: thats not a link to pastebin
#2564 [14:37] <jiap> yeah
#2565 [14:37] <Wug> I have that file, I host it
#2566 [14:38] * Wug points at wug.me
#2566 [14:38] <jiap> ok
#2567 [14:38] <jiap> sorry
#2568 [14:38] <jiap> one sec
#2569 [14:38] <Wug> now pastebin the log file
#2570 [14:39] <TheNytangel> Wug, did you see the picture of my flight sim that I built?
#2571 [14:39] <Wug> TheNytangel: yes
#2572 [14:40] <jiap> http://pastebin.com/0u2BwT3C
#2573 [14:40] <liquid_speaker> querry
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#2577 [14:41] <TheNytangel> Jiap, I don't think that's what he means...
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#2579 [14:42] <TheNytangel> Omg that's huge
#2580 [14:43] <Wug> Jiap: stop sending that link
#2581 [14:43] <Wug> I need the LOG FILE
#2582 [14:43] <Wug> not the link to the launcher
#2583 [14:43] <Wug> and I don't just need its name either
#2584 [14:43] <Wug> I need the actual contents of the file
#2585 [14:43] <Jiap> ok sorry
#2586 [14:45] <TheNytangel> Wug, http://imgur.com/0nO8X
#2587 [14:45] <TheNytangel> :)
#2588 [14:45] <Jiap> but i dont have any Log file in .minecraft!...
#2589 [14:47] <Jiap> have someone got skipe and we can do shared screen?
#2590 [14:49] <Jiap> plase wug
#2591 [14:49] <Jiap> xD, please wug hyperspacee
#2592 [14:50] <Jiap> LoL
#2593 [14:51] <TheNytangel> When Wug goes into hyperspace, he's on drugs
#2594 [14:51] <Jiap> xDD
#2595 [14:51] <Jiap> and you can helpme?
#2596 [14:52] <TheNytangel> I'm cutting my toesnails
#2597 [14:52] <TheNytangel> This is 4 years of work I have to cut through
#2598 [14:52] <Jiap> xDD
#2599 [14:52] <Jiap> i have seen the photo
#2600 [14:55] <Jiap> bye...
#2601 [14:57] <TheNytangel> Ok
#2602 [14:57] <TheNytangel> I chopped down the forest
#2603 [14:57] <TheNytangel> Now I just need to do the other 8, then my fingernails
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#2606 [15:05] <TheNytangel> It feels so weird having the tips of my toes touch things...
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#2608 [15:11] <hipy> Hi, since the 1.0.0 update my biomes are bugged, like 80% of my map is now ugly swamp biome, the colors are very dark and it does not fade to normal biomes its just bam, light green grass
#2609 [15:11] <hipy> :(
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#2611 [15:15] <CaelThunderwing> ;-; Now i need to find someone good w/ pixel art. and good afternoon everyone :3 (as well as happy turkey day!)
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#2616 [15:20] <Lolk> how do i grow netherwart in smp
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#2618 [15:20] <Lolk> hey
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#2624 [15:31] <potpie1010> I make a minecraft server, then when i join it says building terrain, and then i time out. I was able to play minecraft a few days ago, but everything changed when i went from a wireless server, to a wired.
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#2626 [15:34] <YodaRULZ> Whenever I open up anything in-game that uses the mouse(crafting, inventory, etc.), I cannot use my mouse to turn anymore, but I can still use the keyboard. How do I fix this?
#2627 [15:35] <hipy> Hi, since the 1.0.0 update my biomes are bugged, like 80% of my map is now ugly swamp biome, the colors are very dark and it does not fade to normal biomes its just bam, light green grass
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#2632 [15:39] <WarTheCar> I just bought minecraft
#2633 [15:40] <WarTheCar> I tryed 3 times in a row using the creditcard
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#2635 [15:40] <WarTheCar> but it wasn't working
#2636 [15:40] <potpie1010> was it a giftcard?
#2637 [15:40] <WarTheCar> No
#2638 [15:40] <WarTheCar> It was a credit card
#2639 [15:40] <WarTheCar> when I went then came back
#2640 [15:40] <WarTheCar> it was saying
#2641 [15:40] <potpie1010> You just have to make sure that it can send Euros, dollers arent used
#2642 [15:41] <WarTheCar> Does this mean I paied 3 times?
#2643 [15:41] <WarTheCar> payed*
#2644 [15:41] <potpie1010> Did you get an error message at all?
#2645 [15:41] <WarTheCar> Nope
#2646 [15:41] <clarjon1> WarTheCar: You'd have to check with your credit card provider
#2647 [15:42] <clarjon1> ?? support
#2648 [15:42] <VoxelHead> support: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#2649 [15:42] <WarTheCar> No, I won't.
#2650 [15:42] <WarTheCar> I'm just asking..
#2651 [15:42] <clarjon1> well, we dunno
#2652 [15:42] <WarTheCar> Did I pay 3 times!?
#2653 [15:42] <potpie1010> Did a screen come on afterwords?
#2654 [15:42] <WarTheCar> Hmm okaay
#2655 [15:42] <clarjon1> We don't know, war.
#2656 [15:42] <CaelThunderwing> it can take Awile for a payment to Process.. since this isnt an Offical Help chan run by Notch. the admins on this chan cant help w/ account/billing issues.
#2657 [15:42] <clarjon1> we weren't there at your computer when you did it
#2658 [15:42] <clarjon1> we don't have access to your bank account to check transactions
#2659 [15:42] <clarjon1> no access to your email to look for emailed receipts...
#2660 [15:43] <WarTheCar> Alright, I'm so thankful for helping me.
#2661 [15:43] <potpie1010> Does anyone know y my minecraft server is suck at downloading terrain?
#2662 [15:43] <potpie1010> *stuck
#2663 [15:43] <WarTheCar> I'm afraid that i gave a un-known email .-.
#2664 [15:43] <WarTheCar> I have 3/4 emails
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#2666 [15:44] <potpie1010> can someone help me?
#2667 [15:44] <WugBot> potpie1010: (ww) Help you with what?
#2668 [15:44] <potpie1010> I made a mc server, and when i try to join its stuck at building terrain
#2669 [15:44] <potpie1010> i knoow hot to port foward and everything?
#2670 [15:44] <potpie1010> *know how
#2671 [15:45] <potpie1010> And i was able to even play on it a while ago?
#2672 [15:45] <potpie1010> online
#2673 [15:45] <potpie1010> ?
#2674 [15:45] <CaelThunderwing> ok is the issue when connected Externally ( off your home network) or Internally?
#2675 [15:46] <potpie1010> I did make one change
#2676 [15:46] <potpie1010> but i should have fixed it
#2677 [15:46] <potpie1010> i went from wireless to wired
#2678 [15:46] <potpie1010> yes, my 1p4 should have changed, and i reedited that
#2679 [15:46] <potpie1010> *ip4
#2680 [15:47] <potpie1010> from ending in .103 to .107
#2681 [15:47] <CaelThunderwing> so Internally. you seeing any Errors in your Server window?
#2682 [15:47] <potpie1010> when i time out after trying
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#2684 [15:48] <CaelThunderwing> other than "(your IP) Disconnected
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#2686 [15:49] <WarTheCar> When I bought minecraft
#2687 [15:49] <WarTheCar> It said wait within the hour
#2688 [15:49] <potpie1010> like do other players disconnect?
#2689 [15:49] <potpie1010> other then me
#2690 [15:49] <aljorub> what difficult do you have to be on to find wolves
#2691 [15:49] <potpie1010> think normal would work
#2692 [15:49] <CaelThunderwing> War, no one here has acces sto your account so no one can say.
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#2694 [15:49] <aljorub> thanx
#2695 [15:50] <sprocket> i need some help again
#2696 [15:50] <potpie1010> what would be an internal issue here?
#2697 [15:50] <WarTheCar> CaelThunderwing : What I mean does this happen for everyone when buying MC?
#2698 [15:51] <sprocket> i cant update minecraft
#2699 [15:51] <CaelThunderwing> This isnt an offical Chan run by Notch. Thats why no one here would have acces sto another's account,
#2700 [15:51] <clarjon1> WarTheCar: what username did you purchase?
#2701 [15:51] <WarTheCar> WarTheCar
#2702 [15:51] <clarjon1> !haspaid WarTheCar
#2703 [15:51] <clarjon1> er
#2704 [15:51] <clarjon1> !paid WarTheCar
#2705 [15:51] <clarjon1> ok, so the transaction has not gone through yet
#2706 [15:51] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheBar
#2707 [15:52] <WarTheCar> oh not-good
#2708 [15:52] <CaelThunderwing> thats the most we'd have to checking.
#2709 [15:52] <clarjon1> your bank/credit card company may have put a temporary hold on the transatcion due to it being a foreign purchase.
#2710 [15:52] <WarTheCar> This was helpful.
#2711 [15:52] <potpie1010> help?
#2712 [15:52] <WarTheCar> Can I stay in the channel?
#2713 [15:52] <CaelThunderwing> a small advice War, Use paypal and tie it to your card for international purchases,
#2714 [15:53] <CaelThunderwing> and hmm.. not sure the issue potpie.
#2715 [15:53] <CaelThunderwing> are you setting an IP in your server.properties?
#2716 [15:53] <potpie1010> i leave it blank
#2717 [15:53] <CaelThunderwing> ok (i had similar issues w/ an IP set)
#2718 [15:54] <CaelThunderwing> are you atleast able to start and get inworld on a single player map?
#2719 [15:54] <WarTheCar> I'll stay for some hours so the payment has been through or not. I'll type !paid WarTheCar
#2720 [15:55] <potpie1010> ill check
#2721 [15:55] <potpie1010> i can get to the map on singleplayer
#2722 [15:55] <potpie1010> *a map
#2723 [15:56] <CaelThunderwing> set option to "Force" and force it to re-update the files.
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#2725 [15:56] <CaelThunderwing> if nothing try a reinstall
#2726 [15:56] <mib_9akwv3> i cant update my minecraft
#2727 [15:58] <potpie1010> forced update, still stuck on downloading terrain
#2728 [15:58] <clarjon1> mib_9akwv3: Why not?
#2729 [15:58] <potpie1010> does it matter that its a bukkit
#2730 [15:58] <clarjon1> mib_9akwv3: We know even less than you do about the problem right now.
#2731 [15:58] <clarjon1> potpie1010: Seeing as bukkit doesn't have a release for 1.0.0 yet
#2732 [15:58] <CaelThunderwing> that Might be the factor.
#2733 [15:58] <clarjon1> potpie1010: Probably.
#2734 [15:58] <mib_9akwv3> it is stuk every time i try
#2735 [15:58] <potpie1010> well it actually does now
#2736 [15:58] <CaelThunderwing> try w/ the Vanilla Server
#2737 [15:59] <potpie1010> aven the auto updater is 1.0.0
#2738 [15:59] <potpie1010> i mean auto installer
#2739 [15:59] <clarjon1> Reminder: There is no RB out, but you can still use an almost-stable dev build at http://t.co/1zRu1fvj. There aren't that many bugs left.
#2740 [15:59] <clarjon1> Craftbukkit - 25 mins ago - TweetDeck
#2741 [15:59] <clarjon1> 1) You need to get support from the #bukkit room
#2742 [15:59] <clarjon1> 2) You wont' get much support, because you're using a marked "not ready" release
#2743 [16:00] <mib_9akwv3> no i want to play the 1.0.0 an it doesnt work
#2744 [16:01] <Jovet> hipy: you around?
#2745 [16:02] <hipy> yes
#2746 [16:03] <Jovet> hipy: the answer to your question is that the biome code has changed; even though your map hasn't changed, the game thinks swaps are in different places now.
#2747 [16:03] <TGFRules> So I am building this sky house. Any way I can avoid falling off the edge when I am building?
#2748 [16:04] <Jovet> hipy: the biome and terrain generation code was improved, but the cost is that existing maps will have odd effects like that, and the same seed will generate a totally different world.
#2749 [16:04] <hipy> How lame..
#2750 [16:04] <Jovet> TGFRules: hold down your key for Sneaking or whatever it's called, I forget.
#2751 [16:05] <mib_9akwv3> its stuk on downloading terrain
#2752 [16:05] <Jovet> hipy: it is kind-of lame, but that sort of thing happens when software is "alpha" and "beta".
#2753 [16:05] <Jovet> hipy: now that minecraft is out of beta, I would expecct the biome and terrain generation to be pretty consistent from now on.
#2754 [16:06] <Jovet> TGFRules: by default that's Ctrl, I believe.
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#2756 [16:06] <TGFRules> Thanks
#2757 [16:07] <Jovet> TGFRules: that will keep you on a ledge, but if you jump you'll fall, so be careful to not do that.
#2758 [16:07] <WarTheCar> !paid warthecar
#2759 [16:08] <mib_9akwv3> i get :fatal error occured (4)
#2760 [16:08] <Jovet> mib_9akwv3: you get that while "Downloading terrain"? Or downloading the game?
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#2762 [16:09] <mib_9akwv3> downloding terrain
#2763 [16:10] <mib_1iwdsu> how can i stop the game from crashing every second.. in the beginning it worked fine but now when i play i says 'saving chunks' and the screen turns black every time.. :(
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#2765 [16:10] <mib_1iwdsu> ?
#2766 [16:11] <flashc> is this a minecraft help chat?
#2767 [16:11] <Jovet> mib_1iwdsu: change your nickname by entering: /nick newnickname please
#2768 [16:11] <Jovet> yes flashc
#2769 [16:11] <Jovet> mib_9akwv3: that goes for you, change to a better nickname please
#2770 [16:11] <Mark87> so can u help me??
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#2773 [16:12] <Kurtizrek> hi
#2774 [16:12] <Kurtizrek> =D
#2775 [16:12] <Kurtizrek> !ip
#2776 [16:12] <rootn> jovet it is stuck on downloading terrain
#2777 [16:12] <Jovet> I can try, Mark87
#2778 [16:12] <Mark87> ok
#2779 [16:12] <Kurtizrek> ..
#2780 [16:12] <Jovet> rootn: do you have any Mods installed?
#2781 [16:12] <Kurtizrek> !server
#2782 [16:12] <flashc> i seem to be unable to buy the game. i enter my card info and it says it does'nt work. i hit try again a few times. then all of the sudden it says purchase sucsessful. but it still doen't work
#2783 [16:12] <Kurtizrek> !myip
#2784 [16:13] <Jovet> flashc: how many times have you done that and gotten "purchase successful"?
#2785 [16:13] <flashc> did it twice yesterday
#2786 [16:13] <Jovet> Mark87: spit out your problem
#2787 [16:13] <flashc> and once today
#2788 [16:13] <Jovet> flashc: then you've bought the game 3 times.
#2789 [16:13] <Kurtizrek> !servercheck
#2790 [16:13] <Mark87> well the game was just working fine
#2791 [16:14] <Kurtizrek> !ip 80.3.166.65:22334
#2792 [16:14] <Kurtizrek> err
#2793 [16:14] <flashc> but then i go to log in and it says you need to buy the game
#2794 [16:14] <Kurtizrek> !Check 80.3.166.65:22334
#2795 [16:14] <Kurtizrek> =D
#2796 [16:14] <Mark87> and now every time i can play it for like 2 minutes.. then the screen goes 'saving chunks' and it just stop like that
#2797 [16:14] <clarjon1> Mark87: how much ram do you have.
#2798 [16:14] <Mark87> how can i see it?
#2799 [16:15] <Mark87> im sorry im a noob with these things
#2800 [16:15] <Jovet> flashc: it may take 24 or more hours for the purchse to go through and your account to be upgraded.
#2801 [16:15] <rootn> i want to run minecraft but it says fatal error occured (4)
#2802 [16:15] <Kurtizrek> bnvUpdate it
#2803 [16:15] <Kurtizrek> update
#2804 [16:15] <flashc> okay. am i going to be charged 3 times for the game?
#2805 [16:15] <clarjon1> Mark87: windows operating system?
#2806 [16:16] <Mark87> windows 7
#2807 [16:16] <Jovet> flashc: possibly.
#2808 [16:16] <Kurtizrek> rootn: Updateed Minecraft?
#2809 [16:16] <flashc> k
#2810 [16:16] <Jovet> flashc: I am not really sure, since each account can only buy the game once, I'd assume the others would not work
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#2812 [16:16] <flashc> i guess i just need to wait and see
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#2814 [16:17] <rootn> kurtizrek thats what i am trying
#2815 [16:17] <flashc> how long does it usually take to upgrade and account after purchasing?
#2816 [16:17] <mib_8x5t2d> anyone have a server they wanna play @ with me? i am super bored
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#2818 [16:17] <Scott> try asking in #smp mib_8x5t2d
#2819 [16:17] <Jovet> flashc: I could suggest contacting your bank to do a chargeback on the extra transactions, just to make sure, but there's a chance the'll wipe them all out and you'll have to start over. lol
#2820 [16:17] <mib_8x5t2d> anyone have a server?
#2821 [16:17] <mib_8x5t2d> Ok
#2822 [16:17] <Scott> better yet
#2823 [16:18] <Scott> you can join mc.allgamer.net lol
#2824 [16:18] <Scott> there's usually people on it
#2825 [16:18] <Kurtizrek> rootn: Open Run Type %appdata% and open .minecraft\binz adn delete Minecraft.jar
#2826 [16:18] <mib_8x5t2d> whats that?
#2827 [16:18] <Scott> a server
#2828 [16:18] <mib_8x5t2d> is it public?
#2829 [16:18] <Scott> Notch's wife plays on it too
#2830 [16:18] <Scott> ye
#2831 [16:18] <Scott> s
#2832 [16:18] <Kurtizrek> rootn: then retry
#2833 [16:18] <mib_8x5t2d> can i biuld on it?
#2834 [16:18] <Scott> sure
#2835 [16:18] * Jovet didn't know Notch's wife actually played. ll
#2835 [16:18] <flashc> okay. thanks Jovet. i think thats all.
#2836 [16:18] <Scott> Yeah, ez plays lol
#2837 [16:18] <mib_8x5t2d> scott do u have a private server we could play at?
#2838 [16:18] <Scott> No
#2839 [16:18] <TGFRules> I wonder if something changed since I played the beta - I am picking this coal block but it doesnt drop anything
#2840 [16:19] <Kurtizrek> Rootn: Done?
#2841 [16:19] <Mark87> plsz help me...
#2842 [16:19] <mib_8x5t2d> whats the server name agian?
#2843 [16:19] <Scott> mc.allgamer.net
#2844 [16:19] <rootn> kurtizrek it doesnt work
#2845 [16:19] <mib_8x5t2d> oh kay
#2846 [16:19] <mib_je0ec4> hello i purchased a new computer and it wont run minecraft well at all after a lot of talking to tech support they told me to look for help based on the video game. do you know the technical stuff behind minecraft?
#2847 [16:19] <Kurtizrek> rootn: deletem Minecraft.jar
#2848 [16:19] <mib_8x5t2d> also i v been banned from smp why?
#2849 [16:19] <Kurtizrek> Rootn: then retry
#2850 [16:19] <Jovet> flashc: it can happen very quickly, or it could take at least a day or more. it varies. The servers have been pretty overwhelmed lately.
#2851 [16:19] <rootn> i already did
#2852 [16:19] <Scott> probably because you're using mibbit
#2853 [16:20] <Kurtizrek> or do u want me to send u a Minecraft.jar
#2854 [16:20] <mib_8x5t2d> huh
#2855 [16:20] <Kurtizrek> ???
#2856 [16:20] <Jovet> Kurtizrek: that's illegal.
#2857 [16:20] <mib_8x5t2d> how do i change my name?
#2858 [16:20] <Scott> Kurtizrek: That's illegal and I will ban you for doing such.
#2859 [16:20] <Kurtizrek> ??
#2860 [16:20] <Kurtizrek> illegal
#2861 [16:20] <mib_8x5t2d> whats illagal?
#2862 [16:20] <Kurtizrek> for sending Minecaft.jar
#2863 [16:20] <Kurtizrek> ??
#2864 [16:20] <AG_Scott> .set mode AG_Scott +o
#2865 [16:20] <rootn> no i want just that it updates
#2866 [16:20] <mib_8x5t2d> whats wrong with that lol
#2867 [16:20] <Jovet> yes it's illegal, it's giving the game away.
#2868 [16:20] <Scott> yes, it is.
#2869 [16:20] <Scott> It's copyright infringement
#2870 [16:20] <Kurtizrek> ...ok =S
#2871 [16:21] <mib_8x5t2d> they have not pirated it so they dont care guys
#2872 [16:21] <Mark87> even i knew that =D
#2873 [16:21] <BOFH> it's also against the terms and conditions you agreed to when you purchased :)
#2874 [16:21] <Jovet> it's no different than buying a copy of any other game and installing it on a friend's computer. It's illegal (according to most license agreements)
#2875 [16:21] <Kurtizrek> !minecraft
#2876 [16:21] <Kurtizrek> !game
#2877 [16:21] <Kurtizrek> damn commands
#2878 [16:21] <mib_8x5t2d> huh
#2879 [16:21] <Scott> mib_8x5t2d: It is illegal to distribute copyright files without permission from the copyright holder.
#2880 [16:21] <mib_8x5t2d> hey how do i change my name?
#2881 [16:21] <Mark87> ok so plsz help me nowwww
#2882 [16:21] <Kurtizrek> rly?
#2883 [16:21] <Mark87> how can i stop the game from crashing every second.. in the beginning it worked fine but now when i play i says 'saving chunks' and the screen turns black every time..
#2884 [16:21] <Kurtizrek> wow
#2885 [16:21] <mib_8x5t2d> why they make it so easy then lol
#2886 [16:21] <Jovet> mib_8x5t2d: to change your name here? enter: /nick newnicknameyouchoose
#2887 [16:22] <mib_8x5t2d> how do i change my name
#2888 [16:22] <newnicknameyouchoose> da
#2889 [16:22] <Kurtizrek> i cant change mine
#2890 [16:22] <jajaks> adsad
#2891 [16:22] <jajaks> nothing happens
#2892 [16:22] <Jovet> it happened. you're good.
#2893 [16:22] * Kurtizrek is afk
#2893 [16:22] <rootn> kurtizrek i did everything and it still doesnt work
#2894 [16:23] <Mark87> how can i stop the game from crashing every second.. in the beginning it worked fine but now when i play i says 'saving chunks' and the screen turns black every time..
#2895 [16:23] <jajaka> yay
#2896 [16:23] <Jovet> Mark87: what version were you running that worked?
#2897 [16:23] <jajaka> ok so now i join? spm?
#2898 [16:23] <Jovet> jajaka: are you lookin for servers...?
#2899 [16:23] <Mark87> hmm
#2900 [16:23] <Mark87> 1.0
#2901 [16:24] <jajaka> yeah
#2902 [16:24] <jajaka> jovet yeah
#2903 [16:24] <Jovet> Mark87: did you purchase the game since 1.0.0 came out (in the last week)?
#2904 [16:24] <Mark87> then i installed 1.8 and i still worked for a bit of long time
#2905 [16:24] <Mark87> i just bought the game this week
#2906 [16:24] <Jovet> jajaka: you can find servers by entering: /join #smp
#2907 [16:24] <jajaka> says i am banned
#2908 [16:25] <Mark87> i searched a bit on the internet and maybe it has to do with my RAM ??
#2909 [16:25] <Jovet> Mark87: when does it crash? when it starts up? after you log in? when you go to update? once you start playing...?
#2910 [16:25] <Jovet> Mark87: yes it may, how much RAM does your computer have?
#2911 [16:25] <Mark87> when im playing
#2912 [16:25] <Mark87> moslty after 2 mins
#2913 [16:25] <Mark87> hmm
#2914 [16:25] <Jovet> jajaka: you may not be banned, but someone using the same ISP may have been banned.
#2915 [16:26] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheCar
#2916 [16:26] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheBar
#2917 [16:26] <WarTheCar> argh
#2918 [16:26] <Mark87> hmm how can i see my RAM
#2919 [16:26] <jajaka> ok so how do i not be banned?
#2920 [16:26] <Jovet> Mark87: if you don't know how much RAM your computer has, hold down the Windows key and press the Pause key. Read the window that appears.
#2921 [16:26] <Mark87> i only see .. installed RAM 6gb
#2922 [16:26] <Mark87> ok
#2923 [16:26] <jajaka> hey can u unbann me from smp?
#2924 [16:27] <jajaka> bacon mother fucker
#2925 [16:27] * AuBot kicked jajaka from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ajaka :Please keep it civil.)
#2926 [16:27] <Mark87> installed RAM memory thats it??? its says 6 gb
#2927 [16:27] <Jovet> Mark87: that is a good number. What operating system do you have?
#2928 [16:27] <Mark87> ok
#2929 [16:27] <Mark87> uhh windows 7 home premium
#2930 [16:27] <Mark87> 64 bit
#2931 [16:27] <Jovet> Mark87: so your computer is fairly recent?
#2932 [16:28] <Mark87> yeah kinda
#2933 [16:28] <rootn> can someone give a update program
#2934 [16:28] <Jovet> rootn: an update what?
#2935 [16:28] <rootn> well from intel
#2936 [16:28] <CaelThunderwing> the only thing you can do to force an update is start the launcher click options and select "Force"
#2937 [16:28] <CaelThunderwing> then login.
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#2939 [16:29] <CaelThunderwing> ohh you want a DRiver update?
#2940 [16:29] <krebbit> hello all
#2941 [16:29] <Mark87> Jovet: I got it for about a year and half
#2942 [16:29] <Jovet> rootn: not srue what you're talking about
#2943 [16:29] <rootn> yes
#2944 [16:29] <krebbit> was wondering how to update minecraft
#2945 [16:29] <CaelThunderwing> Kinda hard to tell w/o the model # of teh device you need updated
#2946 [16:29] <Jovet> Mark87: yeah that's fairly recent. So I doubt it's a memory thing.
#2947 [16:29] <Mark87> Jovet: oh ok..
#2948 [16:29] <CaelThunderwing> Krebit i Just said it before ya come in, but load the launcher, slect "Force" in the options then login.
#2949 [16:29] <CaelThunderwing> it'll force an update
#2950 [16:30] <Jovet> ??> rottn win/dxdiag
#2951 [16:30] <VoxelHead> rottn: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2952 [16:30] <VoxelHead> rottn: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
#2953 [16:30] <krebbit> hmmmm...i did that and it says 1.0.0 in the corner... :-)
#2954 [16:30] <Jovet> Mark87: do you have any Mods installed?
#2955 [16:31] <rootn> well yesterday i had to do a system recovery and now my minecraft doenst work voxelhead http://pastebin.com/3Kd7Zek0
#2956 [16:31] <krebbit> nope
#2957 [16:31] <Mark87> Jovet: only thing i changed this week ( i bought the game yesterday i think) is that i put on Version 1.8
#2958 [16:31] <CaelThunderwing> if yoru after updating an intel based vid card.. sadly your outta luck Intel based GPU's are compared to Nvidia or ATI's rather inferior, if your PC or laptop has one and you get the bad driver warning your SOL
#2959 [16:31] <krebbit> that is what my son wants to do...LOL
#2960 [16:31] <Jovet> (VoxelHead is a robot, not a person.)
#2961 [16:31] <krebbit> that is why we are trying to upgrade
#2962 [16:31] <Jovet> Mark87: how were you playing the game before you bought it...?
#2963 [16:32] <krebbit> java in browser
#2964 [16:32] <Mark87> Jovet: only half an hour on the free single player (via the website ) so i immediatly bought it after
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#2966 [16:32] <krebbit> darn, still says 1.0.0 in the corner
#2967 [16:32] <rootn> http://pastebin.com/3Kd7Zek0
#2968 [16:32] <Jovet> rootn: you have a laptop?
#2969 [16:33] <rootn> yes
#2970 [16:33] <Jovet> Mark87: you mean Classic?
#2971 [16:33] <Mark87> Jovet: yeah
#2972 [16:33] <krebbit> nope desktop
#2973 [16:33] <krebbit> what ya mean classic
#2974 [16:33] <CaelThunderwing> rootn, you maybe really up a s**'s creek w/o a paddle.
#2975 [16:33] <Mark87> Jovet: on the website minecraft.net
#2976 [16:34] <krebbit> yep
#2977 [16:34] <Jovet> The only version that's free to play on minecraft.net is the "Classic" version.
#2978 [16:34] <krebbit> mincecraft.net
#2979 [16:34] <CaelThunderwing> most laptop 'Intel" cards lack OpenGL support
#2980 [16:34] <Jovet> rootn: how old is your laptop?
#2981 [16:34] <krebbit> yeah i played classic first with java in browser
#2982 [16:34] <rootn> i dont know
#2983 [16:34] <krebbit> then bought the game and downloaded minecraft.exe
#2984 [16:35] <Jovet> rootn: it looks like your computer does not have "gaming grade" video hardware.
#2985 [16:35] <krebbit> its says I have premium version....that is the bought version right...i had to enter card into
#2986 [16:35] <rootn> its 3 years old
#2987 [16:35] <CaelThunderwing> yes krebbit
#2988 [16:36] <krebbit> hmmm
#2989 [16:36] <CaelThunderwing> my compaq presario is older than my dell, the dell cant do Squat because of the Intel GPU.
#2990 [16:36] <krebbit> cael, is there anyway to upgrade?
#2991 [16:36] <Jovet> krebbit: you know we're not talking about your computer, right?
#2992 [16:36] <CaelThunderwing> remove the .minecraft directory in your %appdata% directory,
#2993 [16:36] <krebbit> sorry
#2994 [16:36] <krebbit> :-)
#2995 [16:37] <Jovet> at least I'm not, I'm talking about rootn's computer.
#2996 [16:37] <CaelThunderwing> you'll lose your saves for Single player though.
#2997 [16:37] <rootn> yes what about it
#2998 [16:37] <Jovet> (you can back those up before you blow .minecraft way)
#2999 [16:37] <krebbit> caelthunderwig, you talking to me
#3000 [16:37] <Jovet> rootn: your video hardware is too crummy. :(
#3001 [16:37] <CaelThunderwing> both of you two :P
#3002 [16:38] <CaelThunderwing> if i'm refeering to you by name then thats wh oi'm talking to
#3003 [16:38] <krebbit> i dont mind losing saves...just need to upgrade :-)
#3004 [16:38] <Mark87> Jovet: you dont know what i need to do?
#3005 [16:38] <rootn> but mc worked fine until i did a system recovery
#3006 [16:38] <Jovet> rootn: if your computer supports it you can try to get an express card that will add better video support.
#3007 [16:38] <Kurtizrek> bak
#3008 [16:38] <Kurtizrek> =D
#3009 [16:38] <Kurtizrek> :D
#3010 [16:38] <CaelThunderwing> ok rootn sound slike you had the latest drivers that added OpenGL then,
#3011 [16:38] <Jovet> rootn: can you go play the Classic version still? try it now
#3012 [16:38] <krebbit> caelthunderwing is there a way to upgrade?
#3013 [16:38] <Kurtizrek> ???
#3014 [16:39] <CaelThunderwing> What Model laptop do you have,
#3015 [16:39] <rootn> im not playing that crapy old version
#3016 [16:39] <Jovet> rootn: I just want to see if it works for you.
#3017 [16:39] <CaelThunderwing> and krebbit, after backing up saves and removing the .minecraft folder
#3018 [16:39] <rootn> i dont have a minecraft bin
#3019 [16:39] <CaelThunderwing> reload the launcher and login it'll redownload 1.0.0
#3020 [16:39] <Kurtizrek> !Check
#3021 [16:39] <Mark87> Jovet: then i just go play Skyrim for a bit ;)
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#3023 [16:39] <Jovet> rootn: Minecraft 1.0 has more stringent graphics requirements because it uses better effects. The Classic version could work while the retail version (1.0.0) does not.
#3024 [16:40] <krebbit> oh, it will then upgrade?
#3025 [16:40] <Kurtizrek> !Check 80.3.166.65:22334
#3026 [16:40] <CaelThunderwing> yes once the .minecraft folder is empty/removed
#3027 [16:40] <CaelThunderwing> rootn, What's the laptop'd Model # and what company is it made by?
#3028 [16:40] <krebbit> where is the .minecraft forlder...i kept the default, is it on c:?
#3029 [16:40] <rootn> i dont have the older version an before 1.0 i played the RC2 version and that worked fien
#3030 [16:40] <Jovet> Mark87: you've tried the "Options" "Force Update" thing?
#3031 [16:40] <rootn> fine
#3032 [16:40] <Kurtizrek> !check
#3033 [16:41] <Kurtizrek> !check 80.3.166.65:22334
#3034 [16:41] <Mark87> Jovet: ill try.. just see if it work... thank you anyway
#3035 [16:41] <Kurtizrek> =(
#3036 [16:41] <CaelThunderwing> it depends What os your using krebbit
#3037 [16:41] <Jovet> Mark87: if you haven't tried that yet, by all means do so.
#3038 [16:41] <CaelThunderwing> its a lil diff between XP and Win Vista/7
#3039 [16:41] <Kurtizrek> !check !check 80.3.166.65:22334
#3040 [16:41] <Kurtizrek> Damn
#3041 [16:41] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheCar
#3042 [16:42] <WarTheCar> please work
#3043 [16:42] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheBar
#3044 [16:42] <WarTheCar> come oN!!
#3045 [16:42] <Kurtizrek> !paid legorek
#3046 [16:42] <Kurtizrek> =D
#3047 [16:42] <Mark87> Jovet: ok ill try !! thank youu
#3048 [16:42] <rootn> CaelThunderwing where can i find that
#3049 [16:42] <WarTheCar> When you paid for minecraft
#3050 [16:42] <Kurtizrek> !paid Notch
#3051 [16:42] * AuBot kicked Kurtizrek from #minecrafthelp (Reason: urtizrek :Notch has paid for Minecraft!)
#3052 [16:42] <Jovet> krebbit: hold down the Windows key, and press R, and let go of the Windows key. then enter: %appdata% and press Enter
#3053 [16:42] <WarTheCar> lol
#3054 [16:42] <Jovet> krebbit: you should see a ".minecraft" folder. That's where it is.
#3055 [16:43] * Kurtizrek [Kurtizrek@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3056 [16:43] <WarTheCar> lol
#3057 [16:43] <Jovet> WarTheCar: the only way to tell when is with the email receipt or bank records.
#3058 [16:43] <Kurtizrek> back
#3059 [16:43] <Kurtizrek> lol
#3060 [16:43] <Kurtizrek> kicked for !paid Notch
#3061 [16:43] <Kurtizrek> XD
#3062 [16:44] <WarTheCar> Jovet : I think I used a unknown email
#3063 [16:44] <CaelThunderwing> i've always kept the App data folder shortcut'd on my list of folders on win 7 :3
#3064 [16:44] <Jovet> Kurtizrek: the Enter key is also not punctuation... if you write more-complete sentences, you'll keep the Robots in here happy.
#3065 [16:44] <Kurtizrek> !paid legorek
#3066 [16:44] <Kurtizrek> yay
#3067 [16:44] <Kurtizrek> XD
#3068 [16:44] <Jovet> Kurtizrek: is there any chance you can do that privately? try: /query AuBut
#3069 [16:45] * itsmedamon- [itsmedamon-@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3070 [16:45] <Jovet> Kurtizrek: try: /query AuBot
#3071 [16:46] <Jovet> so who else is still needing help? I've gotten lost in all the !paid spam
#3072 [16:46] <Kurtizrek> ..
#3073 [16:47] <WarTheCar> Kurtizrek : When you paid for Minecraft.
#3074 [16:47] <WarTheCar> How many hours did you wait?
#3075 [16:47] <Kurtizrek> it was straigh away
#3076 [16:48] <Kurtizrek> !paid WarTheCar
#3077 [16:48] <WarTheCar> I paid 3 times in a row and not working still
#3078 [16:48] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheBar
#3079 [16:48] <Kurtizrek> 3 TIMES?!?!
#3080 [16:48] <WarTheCar> go to hell
#3081 [16:48] <WarTheCar> and yeah
#3082 [16:48] <clarjon1> Did the transactions actually go through?
#3083 [16:48] <WarTheCar> 3 times
#3084 [16:48] <WarTheCar> I don't know
#3085 [16:48] <Kurtizrek> what did u use
#3086 [16:48] <Kurtizrek> i used Paypal
#3087 [16:48] <WarTheCar> I used visa
#3088 [16:48] <Kurtizrek> ...
#3089 [16:49] <clarjon1> WarTheCar: well, get on the phone with your credit card company, and find out!
#3090 [16:49] <Kurtizrek> try Paypal
#3091 [16:49] <Kurtizrek> ok
#3092 [16:49] <clarjon1> seriously.
#3093 [16:49] <WarTheCar> I'm 13
#3094 [16:49] <clarjon1> so?
#3095 [16:49] <WarTheCar> It's my mom's credit card
#3096 [16:49] <Kurtizrek> im 12 =D
#3097 [16:49] <Kurtizrek> XD
#3098 [16:49] <clarjon1> ooooo
#3099 [16:49] <Scott> tell your mother to call card services
#3100 [16:49] <krebbit> does c:/users/username/appdata/roaming/.minecraft sound right
#3101 [16:49] <clarjon1> Did you have permission to purchase it?
#3102 [16:49] <Kurtizrek> tell ur mum to use Paypal
#3103 [16:49] <clarjon1> Because she may have put a hold on the payment.
#3104 [16:49] <WarTheCar> clarjon1 : yes
#3105 [16:49] <krebbit> I deleted that folder
#3106 [16:49] <clarjon1> ah
#3107 [16:49] <WarTheCar> No she wouldn't do that
#3108 [16:49] <clarjon1> WarTheCar: get your mom to call Visa and find out what's going on
#3109 [16:50] <krebbit> so now i just need to run the minecraft.exe again?
#3110 [16:50] <Jovet> WarTheCar: don't keep buying the game!
#3111 [16:50] <WarTheCar> It's 2:30 night here
#3112 [16:50] <clarjon1> WarTheCar: Chances are, visa is being 'helpful' by blocking a 'suspicious' foreign transaction.
#3113 [16:50] <Jovet> WarTheCar: just because your account doesn't upgrade instantly doesn't mean it won't eventually
#3114 [16:50] <clarjon1> well when it's business hours then -_-
#3115 [16:50] <Jovet> WarTheCar: the servers handling that have been overwhelmed lately so upgrading your account could take minutes, hours, or even over a day
#3116 [16:50] <WarTheCar> I will contact them
#3117 [16:50] <rootn> why the f*ck is nobudy helping
#3118 [16:51] <Kurtizrek> i tryed
#3119 [16:51] <Kurtizrek> bubut iv told u
#3120 [16:51] <rootn> i say i need an intel update
#3121 [16:51] <Kurtizrek> delete minecraft.jar and reupdate
#3122 [16:51] <rootn> it doesnt work
#3123 [16:51] <clarjon1> what is an "intel update"
#3124 [16:51] <Kurtizrek> CPU Update
#3125 [16:52] <rootn> yea that
#3126 [16:52] <Kurtizrek> its ur scree pixels
#3127 [16:52] <Jovet> no, graphics driver update. :P
#3128 [16:52] <rootn> can i get it here
#3129 [16:52] <clarjon1> no
#3130 [16:52] <Kurtizrek> just wat i mean
#3131 [16:52] <clarjon1> you get it from Intel
#3132 [16:52] <Kurtizrek> i use ASUS
#3133 [16:52] <rootn> yesterday i got an update from here
#3134 [16:52] <clarjon1> Kurtizrek: I use "Driver Genius Professional" :)
#3135 [16:53] <Kurtizrek> lol
#3136 [16:53] <clarjon1> rootn: Well if it didn't help, you should go to the people who made your comptuer/videocard
#3137 [16:53] <Jovet> damn,searching the chat buffer is a pain in the rump on this thing!
#3138 [16:53] <clarjon1> Kurtizrek: Awesome program, scans my hardware, finds which devices have out of date drivers, then downloads the drivers for me so i can run their installers :)
#3139 [16:53] <Jovet> rootn: your driver looked pretty current to me according to your dxdiag report
#3140 [16:53] <WarTheCar> I'm actually upgrading for a server though
#3141 [16:54] <WarTheCar> My server is ready but one thing is
#3142 [16:54] <WarTheCar> I'm not a member .-.
#3143 [16:54] <rootn> now in human language pls jovet
#3144 [16:54] <Kurtizrek> Rootn: ill try find u the site
#3145 [16:54] <Kurtizrek> Rootn: http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect
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#3147 [16:54] <krebbit> CaelThunderwing it still says 1.0.0 after removing the folder and re running the minecraft.exe
#3148 [16:55] <WarTheCar> !paid hcton
#3149 [16:55] <Jovet> rootn: did the Classic version still work for you?
#3150 [16:55] <Kurtizrek> hcton?
#3151 [16:55] <Kurtizrek> whos that?
#3152 [16:55] <rootn> jovet yes
#3153 [16:55] <WarTheCar> Notch = hctoN
#3154 [16:55] <Kurtizrek> rly?
#3155 [16:55] <Kurtizrek> why u do that
#3156 [16:55] <WarTheCar> read from the right
#3157 [16:56] <WarTheCar> read from the N
#3158 [16:56] <CayceH> Question: Does anybody know how to set up permissions?
#3159 [16:56] <Kurtizrek> .!paid Notch = Kick =P
#3160 [16:56] <krebbit> jovet wow thanks
#3161 [16:56] <krebbit> cool
#3162 [16:56] <Jovet> rootn: go to the site that Kurtizrek gave you to try to upgrade your Display Driver again. But there is a good chance that your laptop's hardware is too old to run retail (1.0.0) Minecraft.
#3163 [16:56] <krebbit> deleted folder
#3164 [16:56] <Kurtizrek> http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect
#3165 [16:56] <CayceH> Question: Does anybody know how to set up permissions?
#3166 [16:56] <Jovet> krebbit: thanks for what?
#3167 [16:57] <Jovet> CayceH: what kinds of permissions? on what kind of system?
#3168 [16:57] <rootn> oke thx kuttekoppen
#3169 [16:57] <Kurtizrek> Cayceh: what on?
#3170 [16:57] <CayceH> Mac
#3171 [16:57] <CayceH> Bukkit
#3172 [16:57] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheBar
#3173 [16:57] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheCar
#3174 [16:57] <Jovet> CayceH: someone was doing that earlier in here... let me look it up.
#3175 [16:57] <Kurtizrek> CaycaH: Use Pail Server Manager
#3176 [16:57] <CayceH> what does it do?
#3177 [16:58] <Kurtizrek> CayCaH: It is like a controll panel
#3178 [16:58] <CayceH> ok
#3179 [16:58] <krebbit> man, it still says version 1.0.0
#3180 [16:58] <krebbit> how to upgrade to 1.8
#3181 [16:58] <WarTheCar> AuBot : .-. just make it say if I did not or did i
#3182 [16:58] <Kurtizrek> !paid WarTheBar
#3183 [16:58] <krebbit> is there a way to
#3184 [16:58] <Kurtizrek> thats wiered =S
#3185 [16:58] <CayceH> krebit: what are you trying to do i might now how to fix that
#3186 [16:59] <Jovet> krebbit: 1.8 is older, it's not an upgrade.
#3187 [16:59] <WarTheCar> !Paid WarTheCar
#3188 [16:59] <Jovet> WarTheCar: stop doing that. Do it in private.
#3189 [16:59] <krebbit> oh, wow, well there ya go
#3190 [16:59] <Jovet> WarTheCar: try: /query AuBot
#3191 [16:59] <krebbit> thanks
#3192 [16:59] <krebbit> this whole time i thought it was an upgrade
#3193 [16:59] <Jovet> once every 30 minutes or so is fine but every 30 seconds is annoying as hell
#3194 [16:59] <Kurtizrek> XD
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#3196 [17:00] <krebbit> so how to install mods?
#3197 [17:00] <Jovet> krebbit: 1.8 is an older beta version for testing. 1.0.0 is the released retail version.
#3198 [17:00] <Kurtizrek> !info
#3199 [17:00] <Kurtizrek> =_=
#3200 [17:01] <Jovet> CayceH: are you following Kurtizrek's instructions or do you want me to try regurgitating GreyVulpine's from earlier?
#3201 [17:01] <CayceH> try to regurgitate
#3202 [17:02] <Kurtizrek> =_=
#3203 [17:02] <krebbit> jovet, thanks
#3204 [17:03] <krebbit> jovet, how do i install mods...:-)
#3205 [17:03] <rootn> !paid
#3206 [17:03] <Kurtizrek> Krebbit: Whats Ur Version?
#3207 [17:03] <krebbit> 1.0.0
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#3209 [17:03] <CayceH> Jovet: regurgitate it please
#3210 [17:03] <rootn> !paid rootn
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#3213 [17:03] <rootn> lol
#3214 [17:04] <Kurtizrek> Krebbit: Want me to send u a mod installer?
#3215 [17:04] <krebbit> does the games sometimes kick you off
#3216 [17:04] <krebbit> kurtizrek, sure
#3217 [17:04] <Kurtizrek> Krebbit: http://minecraft.codeplex.com/releases/view/53419#DownloadId=154900
#3218 [17:04] <CayceH> so pail is a gui
#3219 [17:04] <Wug> :mods
#3220 [17:04] <WugBot> mods: This channel provides support for the vanilla (unmodded) version of minecraft. If you are having trouble playing one of the first things we'll ask you to do is remove any texture packs or mods.
#3221 [17:04] <WugBot> mods: Support for client modifications such as TooManyItems can be found in #risucraft while support for bukkit plugins can be found in #bukkit
#3222 [17:05] <CayceH> wait is this chat built into your minecaft?
#3223 [17:05] <Wug> Also very few mods are updated for 1.0.0
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#3225 [17:05] <Wug> CayceH: no, it is not
#3226 [17:05] * Kurtizrek Likes Helping People =D
#3226 [17:05] <CayceH> Then how are that showing who killed who
#3227 [17:06] <Jovet> in case it was missesd: krebbit: if Minecraft is working perfectly well and you've done a lot of reading on the Minecraft forums and you think you might know what you're doing, then consider Mods. But if you don't, then don't mess with them. I'm not going to help you with them, someone else might, but I won't.
#3228 [17:06] <Kurtizrek> WOW
#3229 [17:06] <krebbit> hmmm
#3230 [17:06] <Jovet> grrr netsplit
#3231 [17:06] <CayceH> wow lol
#3232 [17:06] <Jovet> wait until they come back.
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#3257 [17:07] <Kurtizrek> :D
#3258 [17:07] <funkymonkey2125> how do you fix black screen?
#3259 [17:07] <Kurtizrek> AuBot is back =D
#3260 [17:07] <Kurtizrek> <funkymonkey2125> have u got mods installed?
#3261 [17:08] <funkymonkey2125> no :L
#3262 [17:08] <Kurtizrek> funkymonkey2125: Try Updateing
#3263 [17:08] <funkymonkey2125> i have, it just doesnt work for me on linux
#3264 [17:08] <Jovet> ??> CayceH mac/permissions
#3265 [17:08] <VoxelHead> CayceH: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#3266 [17:08] <VoxelHead> CayceH: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#3267 [17:09] <Kurtizrek> funkymonkey2125: Sometimes Linux Does This
#3268 [17:09] <Kurtizrek> funkymonkey2125: What linux u use?
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#3270 [17:09] <Jovet> CayceH: for Mods or whatever you're trying (I forget) you may need to enter other things to adjust
#3271 [17:09] <funkymonkey2125> ubuntu 11.10
#3272 [17:09] <Jovet> CayceH: I forget what you're trying to adjust permissions for
#3273 [17:09] <Kurtizrek> funkymonkey2125: Cool
#3274 [17:09] <Kurtizrek> funkymonkey2125: err then idk
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#3276 [17:09] <funkymonkey2125> is there a way of fixing it then?
#3277 [17:09] <Kurtizrek> funkymonkey2125: try updating your driver
#3278 [17:10] <funkymonkey2125> how? :L
#3279 [17:10] <Beatlynx> is there any way to run Classic on mac?
#3280 [17:10] <funkymonkey2125> im new to linux
#3281 [17:10] <bundiISWINNING> I have a valid account for minecraft, and can easily log in at minecraft.net etc, but I cant update the game via the launcher, it says "cant connect to minecraft.net"
#3282 [17:10] <bundiISWINNING> what can I do ?
#3283 [17:10] <Jovet> Beatlynx: yes, you need to install the WoM client.
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#3285 [17:10] <Jovet> bundiISWINNING: it says that when you try to log in to the client?
#3286 [17:10] <Beatlynx> Jovet: where do i install it?
#3287 [17:10] <Kurtizrek> funkymonkey2125: http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect
#3288 [17:10] <bundiISWINNING> yes Jovet
#3289 [17:11] <Jovet> bundiISWINNING: wait 5-10 minutes and try again. The servers get overloaded and can't keep up sometimes.
#3290 [17:11] <funkymonkey2125> Kurtizrek thnx
#3291 [17:11] <CayceH> I'm trying to set up permissions thin is what i have: plugin: permissions: system: default copies: groups: Default: default: true info: prefix: 'Guest' suffix: '' build: true inheritance: permissions: - 'essentials.help' - 'essentials.home' - 'essentials.motd' - 'essentials.rules'
#3292 [17:11] <Kurtizrek> np
#3293 [17:11] <bundiISWINNING> I could never log in since I bought my account Jovet
#3294 [17:11] <bundiISWINNING> ;(
#3295 [17:11] <Jovet> bundiISWINNING: It may also tell you your username/password are wrong, even when they're right.
#3296 [17:11] <Jovet> bundiISWINNING: oh. when did you buy it?
#3297 [17:11] <Kurtizrek> i g2g everyone
#3298 [17:11] <Kurtizrek> cya
#3299 [17:11] <bundiISWINNING> Jovet when it still was in alpha
#3300 [17:11] <bundiISWINNING> when the new launcher came out
#3301 [17:11] <bundiISWINNING> it wouldnt work anymore.
#3302 [17:12] <CayceH> Does anybody know how to turn on perms on bukkit?
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#3304 [17:12] <Beatlynx> anyone know where to download WoM client?
#3305 [17:12] <Jovet> CayceH: You might have better luck asking in #bukkit enter: /join #bukkit
#3306 [17:13] <Jovet> Beatlynx: Google it. you can find anything on the internet by searching for it
#3307 [17:13] <bundiISWINNING> I mean I can log in at minecraft.net and manually force the update if I start it in browser, but that is sort of annoying.
#3308 [17:14] <Jovet> bundiISWINNING: what operating system are you using?
#3309 [17:15] <bundiISWINNING> Windows XP
#3310 [17:15] <bundiISWINNING> professional
#3311 [17:15] <bundiISWINNING> 32 bit
#3312 [17:15] <Jovet> bundiISWINNING: So the downloaded launcher has never worked for you ? But you can play the game just fine on the website, right?
#3313 [17:15] <bundiISWINNING> yep
#3314 [17:16] * CaelThunderwing Nick Cael-OnSMP-Map
#3314 [17:16] <CaelThunderwing> AFK.
#3315 [17:16] <Jovet> CaelThunderwing: that didn't do it lol
#3316 [17:16] <Jovet> CaelThunderwing: try /nick
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#3318 [17:16] <Scott> CayceH: This channel doesn't provide support for any mods/plugins/etc.
#3319 [17:16] <Jovet> wb clarjon1
#3320 [17:16] <CayceH> ok
#3321 [17:16] <Jovet> bundiISWINNING: What anti-virus software do you have installed?
#3322 [17:16] <Scott> Furthermore, you should not have pasted that.
#3323 [17:16] <Scott> Furthermore, you should not have pasted that.
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#3325 [17:17] <bundiISWINNING> Jovet it is Avira ^^
#3326 [17:17] <bundiISWINNING> Firewall is off
#3327 [17:17] <bundiISWINNING> just in case you ask
#3328 [17:17] <mib_dgx0xh> hola
#3329 [17:17] <Jovet> bundiISWINNING: Avira can cause conflicts with Minecraft. Try 1) closing Minecraft, 2) completely disabling Avira, and then 3) trying Minecraft again.
#3330 [17:18] <Beatlynx> bundilSWINNING: i have an answer. I would just play in browser; if you find a diagnostic, use it
#3331 [17:18] <Jovet> hi mib_dgx0xh
#3332 [17:18] <bundiISWINNING> still does not work Jovet
#3333 [17:20] <bundiISWINNING> Beatlynx well eventually it kinda sucks to play in browser, since Java is likely to freeze when I switch tabs
#3334 [17:20] <bundiISWINNING> which makes playing SMP kina rude...
#3335 [17:20] <Jovet> bundiISWINNING: (virus/avira) Open Avira, open the Extras menu, and click Configuration. Then, set the switch to 'Expert' and open the 'Internet Protection' sub-menu, and open 'Web Protection', and then 'Scan'. Click 'Exceptions', and at 'URLs Skipped by Web Protection', enter 'http://s3.amazonaws.com/*', and click Add, then Apply.
#3336 [17:21] <Jovet> bundiISWINNING: I'd also try downloading the client "Minecraft.exe" again from minecraft.net/download ...overwrite the one you already have
#3337 [17:22] <Beatlynx> bundiISWINNING: good point...
#3338 [17:22] <mib_dgx0xh> no meentra en el juego despues de poner login
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#3340 [17:23] <Jovet> mib_dgx0xh: ¿hablas ingles por favor?
#3341 [17:23] <Beatlynx> Jovet that is kind of the problem i am having
#3342 [17:23] <Jovet> Beatlynx: how so?
#3343 [17:23] <Lefog98> why does an error come up when i try to load minecraft?
#3344 [17:23] <Beatlynx> Notch hasnt updated his applet certificate in a few years so java wont let me run it.
#3345 [17:24] <Beatlynx> i think thats why
#3346 [17:24] <Jovet> Lefog98: what error is it, and when does it appear? What are you doing to 'launch' minecraft?
#3347 [17:24] <Jovet> Beatlynx: Hmmm... is the certificate expired?
#3348 [17:24] <Lefog98> it is called hs_err_pid3428
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#3350 [17:25] <Beatlynx> yep
#3351 [17:25] <Beatlynx> i can tell you what java says when i try to play
#3352 [17:25] <Lefog98> the game starts up and starts to load, but as soon as it is done loading it exits the loader
#3353 [17:25] <Lefog98> and the error pops up
#3354 [17:26] <Beatlynx> Jovet: can i pm you what java says?
#3355 [17:27] <Jovet> Lefog98: you can open that error file in Notepad by double-clicking on it, and then press Ctrl+A to select it all, then Ctrl+C to Copy it all. Then go to http://pastebin.com and paste it in there (Ctrl+V) and submit it, and give us the web address it gives you.
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#3358 [17:28] <Jovet> Beatlynx: I'd prefer that you don't PM me right now.
#3359 [17:28] <Beatlynx> ok
#3360 [17:29] <Jovet> Beatlynx: Are you trying to play Classic or Retail (1.0.0) or both on your Mac?
#3361 [17:29] <bundiISWINNING> Jovet I am using the free version so I cant configurate my Internet Protection tab :(
#3362 [17:29] <Beatlynx> umm Jovet
#3363 [17:30] <Beatlynx> i think WoM client is for Minecraft not Minecraft Classic
#3364 [17:30] <Jovet> Lefog98: did you understand my instructions okay?
#3365 [17:30] <Beatlynx> Classic
#3366 [17:30] <Jovet> Beatlynx: Minecraft 1.0.0 should work okay on your Mac. Classic will not.
#3367 [17:31] <Beatlynx> darn
#3368 [17:31] <Beatlynx> :(
#3369 [17:31] <Lefog98> i submitted it, but i don't know where to look for a web address
#3370 [17:31] <Jovet> Beatlynx: the only way to get Classic to work on a Mac, to my knowledge, is to use the WoM client.
#3371 [17:32] <Jovet> Lefog98: it should be the address bar, the current address you're looking at after submitting it.
#3372 [17:32] <Beatlynx> it says "you haven't downloaded minecraft.jar! would you like to download it?" when i open it.
#3373 [17:32] <Beatlynx> that is why i assume it was made for Retail
#3374 [17:33] <Jovet> Beatlynx: Do you choose Yes?
#3375 [17:33] <Beatlynx> no..
#3376 [17:33] <Lefog98> http://pastebin.com/h75j9gJj there it is
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#3378 [17:33] <Beatlynx> Jovet: i haven't bought Retail yet
#3379 [17:34] <Jovet> Beatlynx: oh! okay.
#3380 [17:34] <Jovet> (IF you have paid for the game on the website, then you have purchased the Retail version of it. )
#3381 [17:34] <Beatlynx> bye!
#3382 [17:35] <Beatlynx> Jovet: i haven't
#3383 [17:35] <Beatlynx> bye!
#3384 [17:35] <Jovet> Lefog98: thanks, I'm looking at it.
#3385 [17:35] <Lefog98> ok:D
#3386 [17:38] <Jovet> Lefog98: has Minecraft ever worked for you, or are you trying to get it to work for the first time?
#3387 [17:38] <Lefog98> the first time
#3388 [17:38] <Lefog98> it wont work on the internet either
#3389 [17:38] <Jovet> Lefog98: what Anti-Virus software are you using?
#3390 [17:39] <Lefog98> it is the full paid version
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#3392 [17:39] <Lefog98> Microsoft Security Essentials
#3393 [17:40] <Jovet> anything else?
#3394 [17:40] <Lefog98> i will have to ask y dad
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#3396 [17:40] <Lefog98> i will be right back
#3397 [17:40] <Jovet> Lefog98: please do if you're not sure.
#3398 [17:41] <Lefog98> their is nothing else
#3399 [17:42] <Jovet> I don't know whether that conflicts with Minecraft at all, but I'm going to doubt it.
#3400 [17:42] <Lefog98> ok
#3401 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> MSE's been pretty good around here, don't think we've had any problems.
#3402 [17:43] <Lefog98> i have no idea what is wrong with it
#3403 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/h75j9gJj was Lefog98's error?
#3404 [17:44] <Lefog98> yes
#3405 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> That's pointing to your ATI video drivers. Do you know where and how to update it?
#3406 [17:44] <Lefog98> no
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#3408 [17:45] <Lefog98> wait
#3409 [17:45] <Lefog98> we updated them and it still doesnt work
#3410 [17:46] <Grooobi> hi, how far can I be away from my wheat farm?
#3411 [17:46] <Jovet> Grooobi: you mean for the wheat to keep growing?
#3412 [17:46] <Grooobi> yes
#3413 [17:46] <Jovet> about 70 blocks away
#3414 [17:46] <Grooobi> cause I wanna build a huge farm.
#3415 [17:47] <Grooobi> 70 blocks o.O.
#3416 [17:47] <Jovet> Grooobi: as long as the terrain (chunks) are loaded the wheat will grow.
#3417 [17:47] <Grooobi> ok thanks
#3418 [17:48] <Wug> you will be able to increase yields even more by building upwards in layers
#3419 [17:48] <Wug> or downwards
#3420 [17:49] <Grooobi> hm ok
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#3422 [17:51] <Wug> GreyVulpine: some new wugbot commands to ponder
#3423 [17:51] <Wug> af-enable, af-disable, af-addstring, af-removestring
#3424 [17:52] <Wug> they do exactly what they say on the tin
#3425 [17:52] <Wug> you can ;help them though
#3426 [17:52] <Lefog98> who are you talking to wug
#3427 [17:52] <Jovet> he's talking to GreyVulpine
#3428 [17:52] <Lefog98> ok
#3429 [17:52] <Wug> you can tell because I said GreyVulpine
#3430 [17:52] <Wug> >.<
#3431 [17:53] <Lefog98> oh
#3432 [17:53] <Jovet> good luck Lefog98
#3433 [17:53] <Lefog98> why
#3434 [17:53] <Lefog98> oh, thanks
#3435 [17:57] <Lefog98> is anyone still here?>
#3436 [17:58] <Grooobi> ;)
#3437 [17:59] <Lefog98> sup
#3438 [17:59] <Lefog98> :(:D:Pblue
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#3440 [18:00] <mr_evil> hello?
#3441 [18:01] <mr_evil> i need help with something, is someone there?
#3442 [18:01] <ArmEagle> bah.. why can't a sticky piston PUSH a piece of track over air. That would make this so much simpler
#3443 [18:01] <ArmEagle> it never hurts to ask
#3444 [18:02] <mr_evil> my credit card keeps getting rejected u guys know how to contact the minecraft company to pay it over the phone?
#3445 [18:02] <Wug> minecraft doesnt support payment by phone
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#3447 [18:03] <Wug> is it a prepaid card?
#3448 [18:03] <mr_evil> then this is gonna be hard because its my only credit card< thnx anyway ill just wait for xbox version, bye
#3449 [18:12] <Lefog98> i need help
#3450 [18:12] <Lefog98> can you not do anything
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#3452 [18:12] <Lefog98> for me
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#3454 [18:14] <sdousley> Does anyone know how I can take a timer input and output it to a torch to show as "on" if the timer is running
#3455 [18:14] <sdousley> so if something has been active within the last X seconds say
#3456 [18:14] <sdousley> it shows as on
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#3458 [18:20] <sdousley> sweet I have something
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#3460 [18:26] <mib_659sj5> Can i get the download link for the newest minecraft server launcher?
#3461 [18:27] <mib_659sj5> ^
#3462 [18:27] <mib_659sj5> " "
#3463 [18:29] <mib_659sj5> Please? ;(
#3464 [18:29] <mib_659sj5> SON OF A SWINE
#3465 [18:29] <mib_659sj5> SON OF A SWINE
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#3469 [18:42] <Dazuro> any idea what would cause people from Canada to be unable to join my server?
#3470 [18:42] <Dazuro> I dont even get any attempted-join errors on the server GUI
#3471 [18:43] <Dazuro> they just cant join
#3472 [18:43] <Dazuro> server is us-based
#3473 [18:43] <Scott> Routing problems
#3474 [18:43] <Dazuro> they used to have no trouble joining, i didnt change anything on my end
#3475 [18:43] <Scott> nothing that you can fix
#3476 [18:43] <Dazuro> how would i fix these routing problems?
#3477 [18:43] <Dazuro> dammit
#3478 [18:44] <Scott> If it's a routing issue, it should be resolved by itself.
#3479 [18:44] <Dazuro> its been several weeks
#3480 [18:44] <Scott> Then you should call your ISP/hosting company.
#3481 [18:44] <Dazuro> I've never been able to join my friend's HL2 servers but she could still join my MC server. Now neither of us can join, and neither can other Canadian friends join my MC.
#3482 [18:44] <Dazuro> Everything else seems fine :\
#3483 [18:44] <Scott> what is your IP/port?
#3484 [18:45] <Dazuro> 68.111.220.213 25565
#3485 [18:45] <Scott> !check 68.111.220.213
#3486 [18:46] <Dazuro> ...interesting script
#3487 [18:46] <Scott> Looks fine.
#3488 [18:46] <Scott> It's something between you and them.
#3489 [18:46] <Scott> You should contact your ISP.
#3490 [18:48] <Dazuro> alright
#3491 [18:48] <Dazuro> alright
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#3493 [18:48] <sdousley> awesome, I have power lights working on my cobblestone generator
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#3495 [18:54] <WarTheCar> !paid warthecar
#3496 [18:55] <WarTheCar> !paid warthebar
#3497 [18:55] <Wug> its not going to suddenly change -.-
#3498 [18:55] <Wug> unless you're actually paying
#3499 [19:00] * mib_z6zj8l [mib_z6zj8l@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3500 [19:00] <mib_z6zj8l> hey
#3501 [19:00] <mib_z6zj8l> anyone have a server
#3502 [19:00] <sdousley> I do mib_z6zj8l
#3503 [19:01] <mib_z6zj8l> can we play?
#3504 [19:01] <mib_z6zj8l> i am mega bored
#3505 [19:01] <sdousley> I'm about to go bed I think
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#3507 [19:01] <mib_z6zj8l> oh come on man
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#3509 [19:01] <mib_z6zj8l> sdousley
#3510 [19:01] <sdousley> mib_z6zj8l: ?
#3511 [19:02] <mib_z6zj8l> i though we were friends
#3512 [19:02] <mib_z6zj8l> :(
#3513 [19:03] <mib_z6zj8l> sdousley
#3514 [19:03] <mib_z6zj8l> hey
#3515 [19:03] <sdousley> mib_z6zj8l: i've known you for all of ... 2 minutes
#3516 [19:03] <mib_z6zj8l> wel we can get to know each other
#3517 [19:03] <sdousley> like I said, I'm goin bed shortly
#3518 [19:04] <mib_z6zj8l> hmm
#3519 [19:04] <mib_z6zj8l> can i add u
#3520 [19:04] <mib_z6zj8l> on like faceboko or something
#3521 [19:04] <sdousley> I dont use Facebook
#3522 [19:04] <mib_z6zj8l> so how shell we stay in touch
#3523 [19:04] <mib_z6zj8l> u mad bro?
#3524 [19:04] <sdousley> I'm on IRC all the time, but not at the comp
#3525 [19:04] <mib_z6zj8l> sdousley u mad bro?
#3526 [19:05] <mib_z6zj8l> what if this friendship was ment to be
#3527 [19:05] <sdousley> then it will find way of being so
#3528 [19:05] <mib_z6zj8l> lol
#3529 [19:05] <mib_z6zj8l> what the hel is IRC
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#3531 [19:05] <sdousley> what is irc???
#3532 [19:05] <sdousley> you're on IRC talking here
#3533 [19:05] <mib_z6zj8l> yeah
#3534 [19:05] <mib_z6zj8l> oh
#3535 [19:06] <mib_z6zj8l> hm
#3536 [19:06] <mib_z6zj8l> is yoru server private?
#3537 [19:06] <sdousley> well, it's publicly accessible, but only give details to friends
#3538 [19:07] <mib_z6zj8l> how about best friends?
#3539 [19:07] <mib_z6zj8l> cuz we is what it be brawski
#3540 [19:07] <mib_z6zj8l> :)
#3541 [19:07] <mib_z6zj8l> k whats the " details " : )
#3542 [19:08] <sdousley> mib_z6zj8l: I dont know you
#3543 [19:08] <mib_z6zj8l> k my name is alex but they call me alcaron
#3544 [19:08] <mib_z6zj8l> " my minecraft name "
#3545 [19:08] <mib_z6zj8l> whats yours?
#3546 [19:09] <mib_z6zj8l> gosh pinis u type so slowwwww
#3547 [19:09] <sdousley> lol
#3548 [19:09] <mib_z6zj8l> are u there?
#3549 [19:09] <sdousley> I am here
#3550 [19:09] <mib_z6zj8l> k well stop zoning out
#3551 [19:10] <sdousley> but maybe if you call me pinis (spelt incorrectly in fact) abusing me doesn't really make me wanna talk to you
#3552 [19:10] <mib_z6zj8l> k so can i join server
#3553 [19:10] <mib_z6zj8l> lol i was joshing
#3554 [19:10] <mib_z6zj8l> why u so cereal
#3555 [19:10] <sdousley> I'd love some corn flakes ta
#3556 [19:10] <mib_z6zj8l> wow dude now i feel bad can you forgive me best bud, buddy , best friend
#3557 [19:11] <mib_z6zj8l> i feel like eating bacon
#3558 [19:11] <mib_z6zj8l> wanna know why sdousley
#3559 [19:11] <mib_z6zj8l> sdousley wanna know why?
#3560 [19:11] <mib_z6zj8l> huh?
#3561 [19:11] <sdousley> well,I think you're gonna tell me anyway
#3562 [19:11] <mib_z6zj8l> CUZ Its GOOD
#3563 [19:12] <mib_z6zj8l> thats why
#3564 [19:12] <mib_z6zj8l> well sdousley
#3565 [19:12] <mib_z6zj8l> how old are u
#3566 [19:12] <mib_z6zj8l> eh
#3567 [19:13] <mib_z6zj8l> k so
#3568 [19:13] <mib_z6zj8l> if your not gonna communicate how am i sop post to get to know you man?
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#3570 [19:13] <mib_z6zj8l> are u there..
#3571 [19:14] <sdousley> ma7ybe that's the point I'm trying to get across
#3572 [19:14] <mib_z6zj8l> wow i know your there
#3573 [19:14] <mib_z6zj8l> so yuor saying you dont wanna be friends ? :(
#3574 [19:14] <mib_z6zj8l> after the adventures we could have had in minecraft?
#3575 [19:14] <onix> hello my minecraft account will not let me play in the broswer it just gives me a white screen
#3576 [19:14] <sdousley> well, I'm not ruling it out as a possibility at the moment
#3577 [19:14] <mib_z6zj8l> the magical pony adventureeeees?
#3578 [19:15] <mib_z6zj8l> update your java
#3579 [19:15] <onix> i did nothing happed tho
#3580 [19:15] <mib_z6zj8l> sdously
#3581 [19:15] <mib_z6zj8l> hey onix sdousley will break yur heart so trust him
#3582 [19:15] <onix> any ideas
#3583 [19:15] <mib_z6zj8l> just like he broke our friendship becuase he couldnt give it a chance
#3584 [19:16] <mib_z6zj8l> a magical chance , fate broght us together in this chat room and he just shit on it
#3585 [19:16] <mib_z6zj8l> nnow i feel sad
#3586 [19:17] <onix> so u got no idea
#3587 [19:17] <mib_z6zj8l> are u on firefox?
#3588 [19:17] <onix> no
#3589 [19:17] <mib_z6zj8l> get firefox
#3590 [19:17] <onix> why and how will it help
#3591 [19:17] <mib_z6zj8l> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/
#3592 [19:17] <mib_z6zj8l> cuz it will and its better
#3593 [19:18] <mib_z6zj8l> also if u really dont want did u try to download it from the luncher?
#3594 [19:18] <sdousley> mib_z6zj8l: lol I find it hilarious that you say I "Broke your heart" and our "friendship" That I never saw as a friendhip yet
#3595 [19:18] <onix> ya
#3596 [19:18] <mib_z6zj8l> thats right, u never gave it a chance to see
#3597 [19:18] <mib_z6zj8l> you blind fool
#3598 [19:19] <mib_z6zj8l> lalalalla
#3599 [19:19] <mib_z6zj8l> onix
#3600 [19:19] <mib_z6zj8l> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#3601 [19:19] <mib_z6zj8l> but u shuold get firefox anyways cuz it be pro
#3602 [19:19] <mib_z6zj8l> wow he rage quited..
#3603 [19:19] <mib_z6zj8l> some poeple...
#3604 [19:20] <mib_z6zj8l> sdousley i will go now
#3605 [19:20] <sdousley> ok
#3606 [19:20] <mib_z6zj8l> last chance to accept the fate of our magical awesome friendship witch u do not seeeeee
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#3608 [19:20] <mib_z6zj8l> Yes or no
#3609 [19:21] <mib_z6zj8l> ok what?
#3610 [19:21] <mib_z6zj8l> dude do u speak propper english , like have u even been able to understand what i have been typing this passed huor?
#3611 [19:22] <mib_z6zj8l> haha joshing
#3612 [19:22] <sdousley> do I speak proper english ... hmmmm, well, I am from the UK, so I do like to think so
#3613 [19:22] <mib_z6zj8l> your so awesome , so yeah does " ok " mean yes u do want to be friends , or no , u do not want to be friend and u liek hitler
#3614 [19:23] <mib_z6zj8l> fast you silly , u must decide before the time if over !!! cant u hear the evil friendship angels comming? we must seal our love of broawski ness
#3615 [19:24] <mib_z6zj8l> before they break it
#3616 [19:24] <mib_z6zj8l> what shalls it be?
#3617 [19:24] <sdousley> oh dear, I think they just did
#3618 [19:24] <mib_z6zj8l> nope..
#3619 [19:24] <mib_z6zj8l> pretty sure u still have time to say yes or no
#3620 [19:24] <mib_z6zj8l> ...
#3621 [19:24] <mib_z6zj8l> stil waiting
#3622 [19:24] <mib_z6zj8l> k fine just say no
#3623 [19:25] <mib_z6zj8l> SAY it YOU SON OFA BEECh
#3624 [19:25] <mib_z6zj8l> :(
#3625 [19:25] <sdousley> cos abusing me will help you get what you want out of me
#3626 [19:25] <sdousley> Just stop trolling,
#3627 [19:25] <mib_z6zj8l> -.-
#3628 [19:26] <mib_z6zj8l> yes or no
#3629 [19:26] <mib_z6zj8l> your trolling all i am asking is yes or no
#3630 [19:26] <mib_z6zj8l> why u be getting mad bro?
#3631 [19:26] <mib_z6zj8l> answer the question
#3632 [19:27] <mib_z6zj8l> ?
#3633 [19:28] <mib_z6zj8l> sdousley
#3634 [19:28] <mib_z6zj8l> ?
#3635 [19:28] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheCar
#3636 [19:28] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheBar
#3637 [19:29] <mib_z6zj8l> h
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#3639 [19:30] <mib_z6zj8l> wah?
#3640 [19:30] <WarTheCar> !paid Master
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#3642 [19:30] <WarTheCar> !paid g
#3643 [19:30] <mib_z6zj8l> wathecar didnt pay for minecraft?
#3644 [19:30] <mib_z6zj8l> okey..0.0
#3645 [19:31] <mib_z6zj8l> hey warthecar
#3646 [19:31] <mib_z6zj8l> hey sean96
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#3648 [19:31] <WarTheCar> Hi mib_z6zj8l
#3649 [19:31] <seang96> does anyone have a idea of opening it on Mac 10.5.8?
#3650 [19:31] <mib_z6zj8l> wow sdousley why dont u just leave ass face
#3651 [19:31] <mib_z6zj8l> face of ass
#3652 [19:32] <mib_z6zj8l> a face that is an ass , ass - face
#3653 [19:32] <mib_z6zj8l> HI
#3654 [19:32] <mib_z6zj8l> hey anyone have a server?
#3655 [19:33] <mib_z6zj8l> sup
#3656 [19:33] <seang96> spgrn,com
#3657 [19:33] <seang96> spgrn.com*
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#3659 [19:34] <sdousley-> sdousley's best friend
#3660 [19:34] <sdousley-> sup
#3661 [19:35] <sdousley-> hey where did sdousley go
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#3670 [19:53] <claude> server2er
#3671 [19:53] <claude> hey anyone got a server?
#3672 [19:53] <Vodsky> nope sorry
#3673 [19:54] <Guest62396> dam
#3674 [19:54] <Guest62396> whats up vodsky
#3675 [19:54] <Vodsky> hey I've got some huge lag in the offline game :)
#3676 [19:54] <Guest62396> why
#3677 [19:55] <Vodsky> seems that there is a memory leak
#3678 [19:55] <Guest62396> sux
#3679 [19:55] <Vodsky> javaw take up to 1Go of my ram
#3680 [19:55] <Guest62396> i wanna play ona server
#3681 [19:55] <Guest62396> eh
#3682 [19:56] <Vodsky> yeah, think it's the better part of the game
#3683 [19:56] <DreadLindwyrm> You could try #smp and see if anyone is advertising/
#3684 [19:56] <Guest62396> says i am baned
#3685 [19:56] <Guest62396> banned
#3686 [19:56] <Guest62396> hey dreadlinkwyrm
#3687 [19:56] <DreadLindwyrm> register a nick and try again.
#3688 [19:56] <Guest62396> dreadlindwyrm
#3689 [19:57] <DreadLindwyrm> /msg NickServ help
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#3691 [19:57] <Guest62396> nope aready tried that they banned me bro
#3692 [19:57] <Guest62396> cuz my friend went on and did something stupid i imagine
#3693 [19:57] <Guest62396> dreadlindwrm u have a server?
#3694 [19:58] <DreadLindwyrm> Ah well. If you have a personal ban, rather than the general unregistered mibbit one then you have a problem... You could try a different client and see if that works.
#3695 [19:58] <Guest62396> DreadLindwyrm
#3696 [19:58] <DreadLindwyrm> Nah. I don't play MP much
#3697 [19:58] <Guest62396> what client
#3698 [19:58] <DreadLindwyrm> An IRC client.
#3699 [19:58] <Guest62396> whats that
#3700 [19:58] <DreadLindwyrm> Chatzilla, or such. Mibbit is one as well.
#3701 [19:59] <Guest62396> i am on mibbit
#3702 [19:59] <Guest62396> can you give me the link to chatzilla please where i could ask
#3703 [20:00] <Guest62396> DreadLindwyrm?
#3704 [20:00] <Guest62396> u thare?
#3705 [20:00] <DreadLindwyrm> Do you run firefox?
#3706 [20:00] <Guest62396> yes
#3707 [20:00] <Vodsky> do someone else have some lag issue with the offline client?
#3708 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> Vodsky - Offline client? No
#3709 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> Vodsky - Are you talking about the premium minecraft client, the one you pay for?
#3710 [20:01] <Vodsky> arf
#3711 [20:01] <DreadLindwyrm> Excellent. It's an add on for that. Give me a sec
#3712 [20:01] <Guest62396> greyvulpine u prob got connections
#3713 [20:01] <Guest62396> tell the server guys to unbann me plox?
#3714 [20:01] <Vodsky> yes
#3715 [20:01] <DreadLindwyrm> Guest62396: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chatzilla/
#3716 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> Vodsky - Are you running a 64 bit OS by any chance?
#3717 [20:02] <Guest62396> whats this?
#3718 [20:02] <DreadLindwyrm> It's the link for chatzilla.
#3719 [20:02] <Guest62396> what is chatzilla
#3720 [20:02] <Guest62396> k i downloaded the ad on now what
#3721 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> It's an IRC client
#3722 [20:03] <Guest62396> what do i do now
#3723 [20:03] <Vodsky> yes I'am running 64bit win7
#3724 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> Vodsky - Try uninstalling java completely, and installing 64 bit java on your system. has been known to solve a few lag issues
#3725 [20:03] <DreadLindwyrm> Guest62396: run it, and then try to access #smp
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#3729 [20:04] <mib_6qpmjz> ddit they ban me thow?
#3730 [20:04] <Vodsky> ok i'll try that thank you
#3731 [20:04] <mib_6qpmjz> k how to i start it?
#3732 [20:04] <mib_6qpmjz> now wat i downloaded chatzilla
#3733 [20:04] <mib_6qpmjz> how to acces it and get to smp
#3734 [20:05] <mib_6qpmjz> DreadLindwyrm
#3735 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_6qpmjz - Tools -> Chatzilla
#3736 [20:05] <mib_6qpmjz> k now wat
#3737 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Then, in the chatzilla window, do /server irc.esper.net
#3738 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Once it connects, do /join #smp
#3739 [20:06] <Scott> then you kiss GreyVulpine's feet
#3740 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#3741 [20:06] <mib_6qpmjz> yay it works
#3742 [20:06] <mib_6qpmjz> scott
#3743 [20:06] <mib_6qpmjz> not cool bro
#3744 [20:07] <Scott> I can't take you serious now. You said bro. :(
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#3747 [20:08] <aa> hi
#3748 [20:08] <mib_6qpmjz> hi
#3749 [20:08] <aa> sup
#3750 [20:08] <mib_6qpmjz> nothing
#3751 [20:08] <Scott> you're talking to yourself
#3752 [20:08] <Scott> crazy!
#3753 [20:08] <mib_6qpmjz> i know right
#3754 [20:08] <aa> :)
#3755 [20:09] <Scott> someone needs to call the asylum
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#3757 [20:09] <mib_6qpmjz> Lol
#3758 [20:09] <daedalus2021> For some reason, it doesn't seem like minecraft is accepting java 1.6 on my mac. I only have a 64 bit version of it but minecraft says that I have a 32 bit version installed when I make the rendering distance "far." Plus, minecraft won't even open when I don't have java 1.5 turned on in the preferences. http://cl.ly/050v213W4213130S2v2f
#3759 [20:09] <mib_6qpmjz> how do i leave the chat room
#3760 [20:09] <Scott> what version of OS X are you running?
#3761 [20:09] <mib_6qpmjz> on chatzilla
#3762 [20:10] <daedalus2021> leopard
#3763 [20:10] <aa> how do i close
#3764 [20:10] <aa> this
#3765 [20:10] <DreadLindwyrm> Just close it with the X in the top right corner
#3766 [20:10] <DreadLindwyrm> Or /quit
#3767 [20:10] <Scott> Your dock is massive.
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#3769 [20:10] <Scott> Well first of all, click the Apple menu and then Software Update
#3770 [20:10] <Scott> Install any available updates
#3771 [20:11] <mib_6qpmjz> NOOo i wanted to laeve the room notthe smp
#3772 [20:11] <mib_6qpmjz> how to i get backkk
#3773 [20:11] <Scott> and check your email
#3774 [20:11] <mib_6qpmjz> nvm -.-
#3775 [20:11] <daedalus2021> I like my dock! I've checked for java updates but none show up
#3776 [20:13] <mib_6qpmjz> cool story bro , tell it agian
#3777 [20:13] <Scott> open a terminal and type: java -version
#3778 [20:13] <Scott> and tell me what it spits out
#3779 [20:13] <daedalus2021> 1.6
#3780 [20:13] <Scott> Everything
#3781 [20:13] <Scott> not just that
#3782 [20:13] <mib_6qpmjz> hmm
#3783 [20:13] <daedalus2021> java version "1.6.0_26"
#3784 [20:13] <daedalus2021> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_26-b03-384-9M3425)
#3785 [20:14] <daedalus2021> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.1-b02-384, mixed mode)
#3786 [20:14] <mib_6qpmjz> no ones seems to be on smp
#3787 [20:14] <Scott> ok
#3788 [20:14] <Scott> It could be that you're using leopard. I'm not really sure why it would say that.
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#3790 [20:17] <daedalus2021> that's what I concluded. I fixed this last year but had to reinstall due to mods making it inoperable but I can't remember how I did it. It had to do with swapping out a file so that minecraft knew which version to use
#3791 [20:17] <Gregracious> hey guys I came here looking for help
#3792 [20:17] <Gregracious> I cannot update to 1.0 nor can I no longer play 1.8
#3793 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Gregracious - Why is that?
#3794 [20:18] <Scott> ??> daedalus2021 mac/reinst
#3795 [20:18] <VoxelHead> daedalus2021: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3796 [20:18] <VoxelHead> daedalus2021: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3797 [20:18] <Scott> you can try that
#3798 [20:18] <Gregracious> When I launch the game, it goes to the loading screen. For 1.8 it gets all the way to the end of the bar except for maybe 1/10 th of the way.
#3799 [20:18] <Gregracious> I went to minecraft.net files
#3800 [20:19] <Gregracious> deleted them
#3801 [20:19] <Gregracious> then reinstalled apparently?
#3802 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> Gregracious - What operating system?
#3803 [20:19] <Gregracious> windows 7
#3804 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> Gregracious - To clarify, you went to your start menu, typed in %appdata% in your search bar, went to .minecraft and deleted everything there?
#3805 [20:19] <Gregracious> yes
#3806 [20:19] <Gregracious> I did save the worlds to a different folder
#3807 [20:20] <Gregracious> but then deleted the .minecraft folder
#3808 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Gregracious - Recheck the .minecraft folder, make sure it's blank
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#3810 [20:20] <Jouster500> wow theres no one here
#3811 [20:21] <Gregracious> I just rechecked the %appdata% completely blank now and im relaunching the loader
#3812 [20:21] <Jouster500> wow
#3813 [20:21] <Jouster500> whats your problem
#3814 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> Could you also try redownloading the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#3815 [20:21] <daedalus2021> It's still in 32 bit
#3816 [20:22] <Gregracious> Yes I did
#3817 [20:22] <daedalus2021> and the startup menu still isn't compiling correctly
#3818 [20:22] <Gregracious> and it freezes when it's downloading the minecraft.jar file
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#3820 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Gregracious - Any antivirus software on your computer?
#3821 [20:22] <Jouster500> how do i allocate memory to multiplayer so that it doesn't crash?
#3822 [20:22] <Gregracious> AVG but that hasn't stopped me from playing before
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#3824 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Gregracious - Hmm, could you perhaps try disabling the linkscanner, just to test?
#3825 [20:22] <mib_7m868t> How do I change email? any tricks
#3826 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> mib_7m868t - Not possible at this time
#3827 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Jouster500 - What operating system?
#3828 [20:23] <Gregracious> the launcher says, "downloading packages" "Retrieving: Minecraft.jar 50% @ 275.77 KB/sec"
#3829 [20:23] <Jouster500> Java?
#3830 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Jouster500 - Windows? Mac? Linux? OS/2 Warp?
#3831 [20:23] <Jouster500> oh! windows 7 laptop
#3832 [20:23] <mib_7m868t> Any hacks to change my email cause I forgot my email
#3833 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> 32 or 64 bit
#3834 [20:23] <clarjon1> GreyVulpine: has someone actually gotten MC to run on OS/2 Warp? :o
#3835 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> mib_7m868t - Not possible to change your email at this time
#3836 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> clarjon1 - Pfft.
#3837 [20:24] <Jouster500> i think its 32 bit
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#3839 [20:24] <clarjon1> GreyVulpine: I wanna try, just for the whole 'Holy shit he did it" cred lol
#3840 [20:24] <Brad> Hi
#3841 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Jouster500 - Could you check? Go to your start menu, right click on "Computer" and go to "properties". Look at system type
#3842 [20:24] <Brad> Can someone help me with modloader?
#3843 [20:24] <WugBot> Brad: (ww) Help you with what?
#3844 [20:24] <mib_7m868t> That sucks
#3845 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Brad - We don't assist with modloader here. Try #risucraft
#3846 [20:24] <Brad> oh sorry lol ty
#3847 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Brad - Be aware that they don't take too kindly to newbish questions that can be googled first
#3848 [20:25] <Brad> Ive googled it multiple times
#3849 [20:25] <Jouster500> 64 bit
#3850 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Well, #risucraft would be better suited to help you
#3851 [20:25] <Gregracious> ok
#3852 [20:25] <Gregracious> disabling the link scanner seemed to fix it
#3853 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Jouster500 - If you're getting the out of memory error, try installing 64 bit Java
#3854 [20:25] <Gregracious> thanks!
#3855 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Gregracious - We've actually been having tons of avg users come by with problems
#3856 [20:25] <Gregracious> Do I have to keep the link scanner disabled the entire time?
#3857 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Gregracious - Just for future reference, if you experience this in the future
#3858 [20:26] <Gregracious> Yes?
#3859 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Just for downloading updates
#3860 [20:26] <Jouster500> weird thing is that i think my comutor switchs between 64 and 32
#3861 [20:26] <Gregracious> ah ok
#3862 [20:26] <Gregracious> I will remember it
#3863 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Jouster500 - Try uninstalling java completely, install 64 bit java first?
#3864 [20:26] <Gregracious> I appreciate the help guys
#3865 [20:26] <Gregracious> anyway
#3866 [20:26] <Gregracious> toodles! I'm off to make a server!
#3867 [20:26] <Gregracious> :D
#3868 [20:26] * GreyVulpine waves
#3868 [20:27] <Jouster500> no... java said i downloaded the correct one... which was the 32 bit... not the 64...
#3869 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> Jouster500 - If you're running a 64 bit windows, we recommend installing 64 bit java. It helps clear up the out of memory issue with minecraft
#3870 [20:27] <Jouster500> k then
#3871 [20:27] <Jouster500> delete other java then add this one?
#3872 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall java from your control panel's Programs and features
#3873 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Then reinstall java 64 bit from:
#3874 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> :j
#3875 [20:28] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
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#3877 [20:30] <Deathykloak> Hello, folks. I have a question! I can't seem to connect to minecraft.net when logging in from the main page of the minecraft launcher, after starting my game
#3878 [20:31] <Deathykloak> Is the server down, or is it just me?
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#3880 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Looks up to me
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#3882 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> What exactly is the problem? Are you unable to connect to minecraft.net via your browser? Or are you having trouble with the downloadable client?
#3883 [20:32] <Deathykloak> I start my game via the launcher on my desktop. I hit LOGIN, and it loads for a second, says "Cannot connect to minecraft.net" and gives me the option to try again or play offline
#3884 [20:33] <Deathykloak> I redownloaded the installer from the main site, thinking that would fix it, and I got it to update... But now it's doing the same thing
#3885 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Deathykloak - Have you been able to log in before?
#3886 [20:33] <Deathykloak> I haven't tried for months, I just got back from deployment on a carrier. But yeah, before that, I could log in just fine.
#3887 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure you're launching the latest minecraft client from minecraft.net/download?
#3888 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> You're not using a shortcut or anything, right?
#3889 [20:34] <Jouster500> idk i cant remember where to tell if its the right java
#3890 [20:35] <Deathykloak> Oh hey
#3891 [20:35] <Jouster500> hello?
#3892 [20:35] <Deathykloak> I think that might've worked >_>
#3893 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Jouster500 - Start -> type in the search bar: cmd -> Type in the black command prompt window: java -version
#3894 [20:36] <Deathykloak> Thanks, GreyVulpine.
#3895 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> Deathykloak - No problem
#3896 [20:36] <Deathykloak> Daw, my favorite server is apparently outdated...
#3897 [20:36] <Deathykloak> Eh, singleplayer it is then.
#3898 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> 1.0.0 was just released last weekend
#3899 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Servers are scrambling to get updated still
#3900 [20:37] <Deathykloak> Ah, well. I guess I'll try to familiarize myself with the new stuff in SP.
#3901 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Heh, you missed quite a lot of stuff. Wiki entry here will get you up to speed: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#3902 [20:38] <Jouster500> before i go to download...where would i be able to change the operating form?
#3903 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Jouster500 - Operating form?
#3904 [20:38] <Deathykloak> Yeah, I heard something about endermen and enchanting...
#3905 [20:38] <Deathykloak> Sounds interesting
#3906 [20:39] <Jouster500> yeah the 32 bit to 64 bit
#3907 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> Deathykloak - Hunger was implemented, so was an experience bar that you can use to enchant items with. Several new mobs, including enderman, and a dragon
#3908 [20:39] <Vodsky> hello agIN
#3909 [20:39] <Vodsky> *again
#3910 [20:40] <Jouster500> vulppine?
#3911 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> Jouster500 - I don't think I understand your question. You can't change your operating system. It's 64 bit.
#3912 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> Jouster500 - To install 64 bit java, you can download the "Windows x64" at http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u29-download-513650.html
#3913 [20:40] <Jouster500> no of the java,.... where do i change it?
#3914 [20:41] <Deathykloak> Oh wow, that sounds pretty awesome
#3915 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> Jouster500 - Start by uninstalling java from your system, use your control panel's "Programs and features"
#3916 [20:42] <Jouster500> then?
#3917 [20:42] <Vodsky> GreyVulpine: I just reinstall the java jre-1.6 64bit but it didn't work
#3918 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Download the x64 version of java from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u29-download-513650.html
#3919 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Install it
#3920 [20:43] <Vodsky> GreyVulpine: (I was asking about lag issue)
#3921 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> Vodsky - Were you able to install it? Or does it install and not help the lag?
#3922 [20:45] <Vodsky> GreyVulpine: I think my proleme is more as a memory leak issue cause I when I just start the game it work fine until it take up to 600ko of my RAM (if i let it run for a while it take 1Go...)
#3923 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Usually, installing 64 bit java helps the memory addressing issue, and thus, reduces the out of memory errors
#3924 [20:46] <Vodsky> GreyVulpine: and then it start to lag
#3925 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> We see out of memory issues when 32 bit java is used. Minecraft just likes to eat up RAM.
#3926 [20:47] <Jouster500> nom nom nom
#3927 [20:47] <Jouster500> sorry i couldn't resist
#3928 [20:47] <Vodsky> :) ok
#3929 [20:47] <Jouster500> btw its installed
#3930 [20:47] <Vodsky> i just reinstal java 64bit jre
#3931 [20:47] <Jouster500> so lets try!
#3932 [20:47] <Vodsky> and i tryied
#3933 [20:47] <Vodsky> same
#3934 [20:48] <Jouster500> though small thing
#3935 [20:48] <Jouster500> i have 2 javas which one should i uninstall
#3936 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> Jouster500 - All.
#3937 [20:49] <Vodsky> I have to say that I stop play minicraft for a while befor today
#3938 [20:49] <Vodsky> and it used to work fine before
#3939 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Vodsky - did you uninstall java from your computer before installing 64 bit java again?
#3940 [20:49] <Jouster500> including the one that has 64 bit next to it?
#3941 [20:49] <Vodsky> of course
#3942 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Jouster500 - It's usually best to uninstall java completely, so that you can be sure you're running with a fresh, clean install of java
#3943 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Vodsky - How much RAM free do you have on your system?
#3944 [20:50] <Vodsky> in fact I already had java jre 32bit and 64bit installed, I removed both and just install the 64bit version
#3945 [20:51] <Jouster500> so your saying... i need o uninstall both javas including the correct one to download the correct java again because of the other java was there with it when installed?
#3946 [20:51] <Vodsky> That didn't work for me, I still have lag issue
#3947 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Jouster500 - If you want to leave the 64 bit one you have installed, that's fine. I'm just not sure it's the latest version. I usually tell people to uninstall java completely before reinstalling it, because it's the simple way of doing it
#3948 [20:52] <Jouster500> lower the graphics
#3949 [20:52] <Vodsky> I have a total of 2Go RAM, 505Mo in cache, 900Mo available and 400Mo free
#3950 [20:52] <Jouster500> lower the graphics vodsky itl have less lag
#3951 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that may be why. Minecraft on its own, tries to reserve up to a gig of RAM itself.
#3952 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> I think minecraft's just choking because your system doesn't have enough RAM free after a while
#3953 [20:53] <Vodsky> arf overkill XD
#3954 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> You'd be surprised at how much RAM minecraft takes up.
#3955 [20:56] <Vodsky> it appear that it is much greedy than the previous version :P
#3956 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Eh, all previous versions were the same.
#3957 [20:56] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheCar
#3958 [20:56] <WarTheCar> Please pay!!
#3959 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> I started back in late alpha, and it was still -Xms512M, -Xmx1024M, or 512 megs to start, can grow to 1 gig.
#3960 [20:57] <Vodsky> so it might be an other issue because as I said it work fine before
#3961 [20:57] <Vodsky> ok
#3962 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> What video card do you have?
#3963 [20:58] <Vodsky> ATI Radeon mobility (lap top) 2600HD
#3964 [20:58] <Vodsky> did the graphics have been improved?
#3965 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Is this just a single discrete card, or do you also have an intel HD one in there as well?
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#3967 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Vodsky - Yes, graphics were improved dramatically in 1.8, and tweaked again in 1.9/1.0.0
#3968 [20:59] <Vodsky> may I should try to lower graphic like Jouster500 said
#3969 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> Worth a shot
#3970 [20:59] <lostdemouse> About how long would i expect reply from mc support mail?
#3971 [20:59] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheBar
#3972 [21:00] <WarTheCar> !Paid WarTheCar
#3973 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> lostdemouse - Depends on what you used to pay for it
#3974 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> WarTheCar - Stop that
#3975 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> lostdemouse - er, sorry, depends on what you used to contact mojang
#3976 [21:00] <WarTheCar> I'm waiting for my member to start!
#3977 [21:00] <lostdemouse> .
#3978 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> WarTheCar - Please don't spam that here
#3979 [21:00] <lostdemouse> I used the i need further suport mail
#3980 [21:00] <WarTheCar> I waited 6 hours
#3981 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> lostdemouse - Could be a few days.
#3982 [21:01] <lostdemouse> WarTheCar: i waited 13 days
#3983 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Mojang just got back from Minecon, and very likely has a large backlog of support tickets
#3984 [21:01] <lostdemouse> And kaplan is on holiday ._.
#3985 [21:01] <TheNytangel> They actually sent people to us a couple times...
#3986 [21:02] <WarTheCar> lostdemouse : Please pm me and tell me what happened?
#3987 [21:02] <lostdemouse> Meg
#3988 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - A couple? Heh
#3989 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> Each time you see mibbit, it's thanks to Mojang posting a link here via the support page.
#3990 [21:03] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, I cut my toenails for the first time in 4 years today :)
#3991 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#3992 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> I so didn't need to know that
#3993 [21:04] <TheNytangel> They were like, an inch long.. and now.. it feels so weird for that part of my toe to feel the ground again
#3994 [21:05] <TheNytangel> *cough*
#3995 [21:05] <TheNytangel> How's your day going Bob?
#3996 [21:07] <TheNytangel> Ok, bye then :P
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#3998 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Horribly buzzed.
#3999 [21:08] <Vodsky> XD seems I found a bug
#4000 [21:09] <Vodsky> false alert
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#4004 [21:14] <Vodsky> GreyVulpine: ok seems that graphics is not my problem
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#4006 [21:15] <Vodsky> I just took an out of memory
#4007 [21:15] <Vodsky> it appears that is my RAM
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#4009 [21:18] <Vodsky> but it's strange, I used to play without any issue of that type before, (my last party was on the beta 1.4)
#4010 [21:18] <Evanhelphelphelp> Heya i just downloaded Modloader 1.0.0 and TooManyItems 1.0.0 by watching the youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1Lv5sz8DJs . I go to Login and the Mojang icon appears following a error saying that my minecraft has just crashed. I cant read whats wrong because it closes 2 seconds after it opens. Plz help
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#4012 [21:18] <YesNoname> Can someone help me get Advacned Opnegl
#4013 [21:18] <WugBot> YesNoname: (ww) Help you with what?
#4014 [21:19] <YesNoname> How do I get advanced opengl On my Pc?
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#4016 [21:20] <Evanhelphelphelp> A error poped up saying minecraft has crashed after i logged in from home. (directly after Mojing icon) The error page shows up for 2 seconds before it disappears.
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#4018 [21:20] <Evanhelphelphelp> and closes minecraft alltogether
#4019 [21:20] <Evanhelphelphelp> and closes minecraft alltogether
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#4021 [21:22] <Evanhelphelphelp> idk where to start
#4022 [21:27] <Evanhelphelphelp> Ok so error is gone. Minecraft opens properly. No problems. Any suggestions if i should try downloading TooManyItems 1.0.0 and Modloader 1.0.0 again?
#4023 [21:27] <Evanhelphelphelp> or will i run another loop
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#4026 [21:29] <Silent> Gah why has my game been lagging so much lately.
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#4028 [21:30] <losa> anyone know why a visa card would be declined even though it has enough funds in the account while buying minecraft?
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#4030 [21:33] <DarkTomas> Hello
#4031 [21:33] <DarkTomas> Anyone know i can play minecraft under linux with mods?
#4032 [21:34] <Silent> DarkTomas, You can.
#4033 [21:35] <DarkTomas> sure? Because i tryd and it doesnt works
#4034 [21:35] <Jovet> losa: enter the information correctly? triple check it?
#4035 [21:35] <Jovet> Silent: dunno
#4036 [21:35] <losa> yep all correct
#4037 [21:35] <losa> just says declined. its a visa card from a large bank in the UK so it should go through no problems
#4038 [21:36] <Silent> Its something in my world.
#4039 [21:36] <Jovet> losa: call the bank that holds the card, then
#4040 [21:36] <Silent> In a new one its fine.
#4041 [21:36] <DarkTomas> I mean mods like industrial craft and build craft Silent
#4042 [21:36] <Jovet> Silent: a little chunk corruption perhaps? :-/
#4043 [21:36] <Silent> Jovet, I think a bit of mod corruption...
#4044 [21:36] <Silent> One of the blocks lost it texture and stopped working... Its just a white block now...
#4045 [21:39] <Jovet> Silent: could be... I've never had any desire to mess with client mods... seems like more of a trouble and a hassle than it's worth. And I value the time I've put into my minecraft stuff too much to have a Mod blow up and ruin it all.
#4046 [21:39] <Silent> Meh, Minecraft is boring for me without mods.
#4047 [21:40] <Jovet> Silent: Too easy to survive eh?
#4048 [21:40] <Silent> Nope, nothing to do...
#4049 [21:40] <Silent> Mine diamonds, make diamond tools. FINISHED GAME
#4050 [21:41] <DarkTomas> so minecraft with client mods work under linux
#4051 [21:41] <DarkTomas> ?
#4052 [21:41] <Jovet> I've always found plenty to do. Build house. Mine. Expand house. Mine. Build boathouse. Mine. Expand house. Mine. Find above-ground Skeleton spawner 2km away. Mine. Build Skeleton trap. Mine. Build rail link connecting to Skeleton farm. Mine. etc.
#4053 [21:41] <Jovet> DarkTomas: I don't know why they wouldn't
#4054 [21:42] <DarkTomas> :/
#4055 [21:42] <Jovet> DarkTomas: Some might not, though. Depends on how it's programed I suppose.
#4056 [21:42] <Silent> Jovet, I don't build ;)
#4057 [21:43] <Jovet> DarkTomas: If you're having problems with a Mod, this isn't really the place to get advice. You're better off contacting the people that made it.
#4058 [21:43] <Jovet> Silent: what do you do?
#4059 [21:44] <Silent> Well I don't build houses, none of my stuff looks any good, for me its about function not looks.
#4060 [21:44] <Jovet> The stuff I've built is about both. ;)
#4061 [21:44] <Silent> For example, last night I finished my auto diamond gen. Using some cobble gens etc.
#4062 [21:45] <Jovet> The stuff I've built hasn't been terribly impressive but I like it, sometimes I do some ingenious things (at least I think so)
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#4064 [21:47] <Jovet> I loved that Skeleton mine... it was in a neat spot. :)
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#4066 [21:47] <Jovet> I didn't like that world at first (too much snow) but it turned out to be my favorite
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#4068 [21:49] <Jovet> but with the biome/terrain changes I don't care to use old worlds anymore
#4069 [21:51] <Jovet> wonder if there's an algorithm to convert an old seed value to a new seed value. hah
#4070 [21:56] <Silent> Who knows.
#4071 [21:56] <Silent> Jovet, What version you playing btw?
#4072 [21:56] <Jovet> now? 1.0
#4073 [21:56] <Jovet> I've played every version since Beta 1.3 though
#4074 [21:58] <Silent> Mmm.
#4075 [21:58] <Silent> I'm still on 1.8.1
#4076 [21:59] <Silent> Played every version since 1.2.2 (Alpha)
#4077 [21:59] <Jovet> I quite like 1.0. But the pre-releases had me a bit worried.
#4078 [22:00] <Jovet> 1.0 hasn't turned out as buggy as I feared it would. :D
#4079 [22:00] <Jovet> and I definitely notice the difference in performance.
#4080 [22:01] <Silent> Difference for the good or bad?
#4081 [22:01] <Jovet> for the better.
#4082 [22:01] <Jovet> 1.0 runs a lot smoother for me.
#4083 [22:02] <Silent> Herm...
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#4086 [22:03] <Silent> I didn't notice much difference, but then again, I already get high FPS.
#4087 [22:03] <Jovet> yeah my computer is a bit dated.
#4088 [22:03] <sirspazzolot> would any of you happen to know where the Unity launcher icon for minecraft is located?
#4089 [22:03] <xiongmau22> Hello. I need help for technical to runing the games
#4090 [22:03] <xiongmau22> Anyone can help?
#4091 [22:03] <Jovet> xiongmau22: what do you need help with?
#4092 [22:04] <sirspazzolot> I made myself a .desktop launcher but it has no icon associated with it, as I don't know where the icon is located.
#4093 [22:04] <Jovet> sirspazzolot: Windows?
#4094 [22:04] <sirspazzolot> oh. Ubuntu's Unity interface
#4095 [22:04] <sirspazzolot> sorry
#4096 [22:04] <xiongmau22> Jovet: I have install and upgraded... and try play and restart and my minecraft just loh in and blank
#4097 [22:04] <sirspazzolot> prolly forgot to specify
#4098 [22:05] <Jovet> oh, no, I wasn't paying attention
#4099 [22:05] <Jovet> xiongmau22: you log into the Minecraft game client and just see a blank black screen?
#4100 [22:05] <xiongmau22> yes.somekind need to send email to them i bet
#4101 [22:06] <Jovet> xiongmau22: your best bet for support is here, the minecraft forums, or getsatisfaction.net. Here is usually fastest though.
#4102 [22:06] <Jovet> xiongmau22: has the game ever worked for you or are you trying to play it for the first time?
#4103 [22:06] * Jovet sighs... getsatisfaction.com
#4103 [22:07] <xiongmau22> jovet: yes. It work but now didnt work. I try installed and try everything.
#4104 [22:07] <Jovet> xiongmau22: do you have any client Mods installed?
#4105 [22:07] <xiongmau22> jovet: yes. I bet. Now is in black screen
#4106 [22:08] <Jovet> xiongmau22: do you kno what a client Mod is?
#4107 [22:08] <xiongmau22> Jovet: give me sec
#4108 [22:09] <xiongmau22> Jovet: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/94310-19pre5-181-single-player-commands-v213/#downloads
#4109 [22:09] <xiongmau22> Jovet: I go there and download that
#4110 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> That's outdated. will cause black screen
#4111 [22:10] <xiongmau22> aww... so what can I do?
#4112 [22:10] <Jovet> xiongmau22: yeah that's your problem there. (And yes that is a "Mod")
#4113 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> launch minecraft, go to options before logging in, choose 'Force update'
#4114 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> Will clear out that outdated mod and get your minecraft working again
#4115 [22:11] <xiongmau22> Grey: where to go launch minecraft?
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#4117 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> download the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#4118 [22:12] <Jovet> which you probably already have since it's already not working for you
#4119 [22:12] <xiongmau22> yes.
#4120 [22:13] <xiongmau22> yes. ; your right. I already update thats why not working for me.
#4121 [22:13] <xiongmau22> How to solve it?
#4122 [22:13] <Jovet> xiongmau22: You did the "Options" and "Force Update" procedure and it's not working for you still?
#4123 [22:14] <WarTheCar> Can I still join a Minecraft server
#4124 [22:14] <WarTheCar> without being a member?
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#4126 [22:15] <Jovet> WarTheCar: a classic server, sure... somehow.
#4127 [22:15] <fogel> can someone help me?
#4128 [22:15] <WugBot> fogel: (ww) Help you with what?
#4129 [22:15] <fogel> my minecraft will not update
#4130 [22:16] <Jovet> fogel: what happens when you try to update it?
#4131 [22:16] <fogel> it says cannot connect
#4132 [22:16] <sirspazzolot> ooh. the picture viewer on the minecraft pocket site seems broken.
#4133 [22:16] <Jovet> fogel: has it worked in the past or are you installing the game for the first time?
#4134 [22:17] <sirspazzolot> oh nevermind I refreshed.
#4135 [22:17] <fogel> i havent updated since 1.7.3 and have been playing the 1.9 prerealese it started when 1.8 came out and i could not play 1.8 anyway because it didnt work on older macs
#4136 [22:17] <xiongmau22> Thank you very much. It back to normal.
#4137 [22:17] <xiongmau22> Jovet & Grey: Thank you so much.
#4138 [22:18] <Jovet> xiongmau22: glad you got it working
#4139 [22:18] <xiongmau22> Jovet: do you know which program command for the beta?
#4140 [22:18] <xiongmau22> JOvet: I mean single player command?
#4141 [22:19] <Jovet> xiongmau22: you no longer have the beta, unless you backed-up the original .jar you had before you started adding Mods.
#4142 [22:19] <Jovet> xiongmau22: wait until a 1.0.0 version of Single Player Commands comes out.
#4143 [22:19] <fogel> hello?
#4144 [22:20] <Jovet> fogel: haven't forgotten about you
#4145 [22:20] <xiongmau22> Jovet: do you know when it come out?
#4146 [22:20] <fogel> okay, sorry just please get back to me when u can
#4147 [22:20] <Jovet> xiongmau22: nope, I do not. Read the very top of the page you linked where you downloaded it!
#4148 [22:21] <xiongmau22> Jovet: what about the minecraft command?
#4149 [22:21] <Jovet> fogel: so you're trying to upgrade to 1.0.0 on your Mac?
#4150 [22:21] <fogel> yes
#4151 [22:21] <xiongmau22> Jovet: How about this link? Do it work? http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/94310-19pre5-181-single-player-commands-v213/
#4152 [22:22] <Jovet> fogel: have you clicked "Options" and then "Force Update" ?
#4153 [22:22] <fogel> currently i have none of the files installed because i deleted them all, and i havent been able to update via the launcher since 1.7.3
#4154 [22:22] <Jovet> xiongmau22: the page you linked contains the answer to your questions. please read it.
#4155 [22:23] <xiongmau22> i know. thank you.... have a good day
#4156 [22:23] <xiongmau22> Happy Thanksgiving.
#4157 [22:23] <Jovet> xiongmau22: Thank you.
#4158 [22:23] <Jovet> xiongmau22: You as well, if you're in the USA.
#4159 [22:23] <fogel> yes i have, still doesnt work
#4160 [22:24] <xiongmau22> Jovet: One more how to check my minecraft version?
#4161 [22:24] <Jovet> I'm afraid I don't use Macs and I'm not comfortable giving you advice about them.
#4162 [22:24] <Jovet> fogel: if you stick around someone else may be able to help.
#4163 [22:25] <Jovet> xiongmau22: you just did the "Force Update" procedure, so you should be version 1.0.0 now. When you log in to Minecraft, the version should be on the lower-left of the screen.
#4164 [22:25] <fogel> can u please try to help? any info would help this problem hasnt been able to be solved since it started when 1.8 came out i have tried countless threads, forums and other things but nothing worked
#4165 [22:26] <Scott> fogel: if you
#4166 [22:26] <Scott> Are you still not able to play 1.0.0?
#4167 [22:26] * Jovet bows to Scott.
#4167 [22:26] <fogel> i checked, my version of os and hardware is capable but the launcher will not connect to update
#4168 [22:27] <Scott> Click the Apple menu and About This Mac
#4169 [22:27] <Scott> What version do you see?
#4170 [22:27] <xiongmau22> not actually
#4171 [22:27] <fogel> 1.5.8 the last update to leoperd, it didnt work for 1.8 but it did for 1.9 pre releases
#4172 [22:28] <Scott> Ok.
#4173 [22:28] <xiongmau22> 1.0.0.0 cant play...how to updated?
#4174 [22:28] <Scott> Delete the launcher you're using
#4175 [22:28] <Scott> and download the latest launcher from minecraft.net/download
#4176 [22:28] <Scott> Once you've done that, tell me.
#4177 [22:28] <Jovet> xiongmau22: It isn't working for you now? You're able to log in, right? What happens then?
#4178 [22:28] <fogel> okay i did
#4179 [22:28] <Scott> Open finder
#4180 [22:29] <Scott> Press command + shift + g and type: ~/Library/Application Support/
#4181 [22:29] <Scott> You should see a folder called minecraft. Either rename it or send it to the trash. Keep it mind it contains your saves etc.
#4182 [22:29] <xiongmau22> Jovet: i cant play...like i try used wood to cut the tree and it didnt collect it and just gone
#4183 [22:29] <fogel> already deleted it
#4184 [22:29] <Scott> Ok
#4185 [22:30] <Scott> Now open the launcher you downloaded
#4186 [22:30] <fogel> okay
#4187 [22:30] <Scott> Login and tell me what it does
#4188 [22:30] <Jovet> xiongmau22: are you sure it's not in your inventory?
#4189 [22:30] <fogel> same error: can't connect to minecraft.net
#4190 [22:30] <Scott> Have you pirated Minecraft in the past?
#4191 [22:31] <fogel> nope
#4192 [22:31] <Scott> Open Terminal. It's under Applications > Utilities
#4193 [22:31] <fogel> i pirated the 1.8 jar file to try and run it but i have paid for the game
#4194 [22:31] <fogel> terminal is open
#4195 [22:31] <Scott> Type this: cat /etc/hosts
#4196 [22:31] <Jovet> fogel: then the answer to his question is "yes, I have pirated it in the past"
#4197 [22:32] <fogel> with the space?
#4198 [22:32] <Scott> It will spit out some stuff, I need you to copy it and paste it on pastebin.com and then paste me the link to your paste
#4199 [22:32] <Scott> yes
#4200 [22:32] <Scott> Exactly as I wrote it
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#4202 [22:32] <fogel> gotcha
#4203 [22:32] <fogel> hold on
#4204 [22:33] <xiongmau22> Jovet: I try the setting. I got it no problem. Thank you so much. So what is the different between 1.0.0 and the latest? and how am I gonna update for future?
#4205 [22:33] <Scott> I swear I'm going to build a tool to check all of this.
#4206 [22:33] <fogel> http://pastebin.com/qRV2WC2C
#4207 [22:33] <Jovet> xiongmau22: 1.0.0 is the latest. You have the current version of Minecraft.
#4208 [22:33] <Jovet> xiongmau22: it is the first official release, so it is version 1.0.
#4209 [22:33] <Scott> Have you installed anything like Little Snitch that would block the connection?
#4210 [22:34] <fogel> i don't think so
#4211 [22:34] <fogel> would kismac do something?
#4212 [22:34] <Scott> I don't think so but stop hacking into wifi networks. ;)
#4213 [22:34] <xiongmau22> Jovet: Oh...sorry.. Thank you so much
#4214 [22:35] <fogel> its for educational purposes only ;) lol but anyway i dont think i have downloaded anything that would do that
#4215 [22:35] <Jovet> xiongmau22: you can always get the current release of minecraft by doing the "Options" "Force Update" thing.
#4216 [22:35] <xiongmau22> thank you for the update.
#4217 [22:35] <xiongmau22> Good night
#4218 [22:35] <xiongmau22> Bye here...have fun
#4219 [22:35] <fogel> and when i try to play it in browser it says i need to download a plugin but when i click the puzzlepiece it says the file is unavailible
#4220 [22:35] <Jovet> good luck xiongmau22
#4221 [22:36] <fogel> sorry for my horrid spelling and grammar by the way
#4222 [22:36] <Scott> Jovet: Is the login server down or experiencing issues?
#4223 [22:36] <Jovet> (nothing to be sorry for, yours is better than a lot of others')
#4224 [22:36] <Jovet> Let me try
#4225 [22:37] <fogel> i dont think its that scott i havent been able to update after 1.7.3 ive tried many many times
#4226 [22:37] <Jovet> the client logged in just fine.
#4227 [22:37] <Scott> Hmm yeah, the server is up and responsive.
#4228 [22:38] <fogel> do you know what the problem could be?
#4229 [22:38] <Scott> What do you see when you go here: https://login.minecraft.net/ ?
#4230 [22:39] <fogel> it doesnt seem to be connecting
#4231 [22:39] <Scott> nothing loads?
#4232 [22:39] <fogel> i can login to the website just fine though
#4233 [22:39] <fogel> white screen
#4234 [22:39] <Scott> It should just be a white page.
#4235 [22:39] <fogel> oh
#4236 [22:39] <fogel> yeah white page
#4237 [22:39] <Scott> kay
#4238 [22:40] <Scott> I'm not sure why the launcher isn't logging in. Something is blocking it and it's not your hosts file and you appear to be able to access the login server via HTTPS.
#4239 [22:40] <WarTheCar> Scott : I can't login too. I didn't buy Minecraft still
#4240 [22:40] <WarTheCar> Is this the problem?
#4241 [22:40] <fogel> do you know of something that could be doing that?
#4242 [22:41] <Jovet> WarTheCar: you can't log in because your purchase hasn't been processed yet. :P
#4243 [22:41] <Scott> You could try reinstalling OS X.
#4244 [22:41] <Scott> It probably needs it if you've never done it before.
#4245 [22:41] <Jovet> Scott: is it a Java permission perhaps?
#4246 [22:41] <sirspazzolot> isn't that overkill
#4247 [22:41] <fogel> i have reinstalled 4 times
#4248 [22:41] <Scott> How recently?
#4249 [22:41] <Jovet> sirspazzolot: it isn't quite as overkill as it'd be for Windows.
#4250 [22:42] <Scott> To be honest, you should upgrade to Snow Leopard or Lion if your hardware is compatible.
#4251 [22:42] <fogel> how do i check?
#4252 [22:42] <WarTheCar> Jovet : You know what I think? I just did check all of my emails messages. no email from mojang.. I think because of the people who are buying it in the same minute or second. :P
#4253 [22:42] <Scott> Leopard is no longer supported It's EOL.
#4254 [22:42] <fogel> what?
#4255 [22:43] <Scott> It's end of life.
#4256 [22:43] <Jovet> WarTheCar: Yes, there is a lot for those servers to process, that is why they are slow. It depends on how you buy it. It could be not Mojang's fault but the Agent who actually handles the transaction on their behalf.
#4257 [22:43] <Scott> The last update was 2009.
#4258 [22:43] <Scott> You're 2 major versions behind ;p
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#4260 [22:43] <Jovet> OSX is cheap.
#4261 [22:43] <fogel> i know that but how do i check when to see the last time i installed?
#4262 [22:44] <fogel> i think i reinstalled during the summer
#4263 [22:44] <Jovet> unlike the ridiculously-overpriced Windows.
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#4265 [22:44] <fogel> snow leopard is uselss to me, and i have to have snow leopard to update to tiger
#4266 [22:44] <Scott> Honestly, I don't know.
#4267 [22:44] <Scott> Tiger?
#4268 [22:44] <fogel> lion*
#4269 [22:44] <Scott> No you don't.
#4270 [22:44] <Jovet> oh my!
#4271 [22:45] <Scott> Apple sells Lion on USB sticks.
#4272 [22:45] <fogel> no apple store near me
#4273 [22:45] <sirspazzolot> I don't think they're sold in retail stores
#4274 [22:45] <fogel> no way to order online
#4275 [22:45] <Scott> You can get it online I think or from an AASP.
#4276 [22:45] <sirspazzolot> but you can orfer online
#4277 [22:45] <fogel> i dont have a credit card lol
#4278 [22:45] <sirspazzolot> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD256Z/A
#4279 [22:45] <Scott> or you can call a friend who works at Apple.
#4280 [22:46] <Jovet> Isn't there something that will tell you if your Mac can handle OSX _____ ?
#4281 [22:46] <fogel> 70 dollars is a bit steep
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#4283 [22:46] <sirspazzolot> 70 is very steep
#4284 [22:46] <Scott> As compared to the several hundred dollar Windows license?
#4285 [22:46] <Jovet> heh
#4286 [22:46] <Scott> One copy of Lion can go on as many macs as you own too.
#4287 [22:46] <fogel> oh and thats another thing i only have 1gb of ram, so i cant run lion anyway
#4288 [22:47] <sirspazzolot> are you on a macbook or a desktop
#4289 [22:47] <Wug> windows licences are usually limited to 3 computers
#4290 [22:47] <fogel> macbook
#4291 [22:47] <Wug> also, an upgrade from vista to 7 is I think something like $90
#4292 [22:47] <fogel> i got it in 08 and it still runs fine so i have no reason to buy a new one
#4293 [22:47] <Jovet> 3? maybe not at the same time. heh
#4294 [22:47] <Wug> so its not that much more expensive Scott you windows hater
#4295 [22:47] <Scott> The upgrade is $30 and is limited to as many macs as you own, Wug.
#4296 [22:47] <fogel> but do you know what could be interfering with the connection?
#4297 [22:47] <sirspazzolot> windows licenses are limited but how often does somebody need to install windows on multiple computers
#4298 [22:48] <Scott> sirspazzolot: I have 3 computers on my desk and 2 on another desk.
#4299 [22:48] <Wug> I just imaged the drive as soon as I installed it
#4300 [22:48] <Wug> so it doesnt matter anyway
#4301 [22:48] <Wug> and I got windows for free from school
#4302 [22:48] <sirspazzolot> and most oems put windows on computers so unless they're all macs then they already have windows
#4303 [22:48] <Wug> along with every other microsoft product, because msdnaa is awesome
#4304 [22:48] <fogel> not trying to be rude but can we get back to fixing my minecraft problem?
#4305 [22:49] <sirspazzolot> and if they are all macs you obviously have enough money to buy a copy or two of windows
#4306 [22:49] <Scott> I've got like $40k in licensed microsoft software that I don't ever use lol
#4307 [22:49] <Wug> lol
#4308 [22:49] <Wug> VS ultimate 2010 is like $10000
#4309 [22:49] * Jovet puts his arms around Scott. :-)
#4309 [22:49] <Scott> I only use office for mac lol
#4310 [22:49] <fogel> software prices are insane
#4311 [22:49] <Wug> anyway
#4312 [22:49] <Scott> I've got 4 $3,999 windows licenses.
#4313 [22:49] <Wug> fogel: you're on osx leopard you say? you really should update
#4314 [22:50] <fogel> no reason to
#4315 [22:50] <Jovet> Minecraft = a reason
#4316 [22:50] <Wug> if it doesnt work now, there not a force on earth that will make apple update your drivers
#4317 [22:50] <sirspazzolot> scott: why?
#4318 [22:50] <sirspazzolot> lolol
#4319 [22:50] <fogel> yes but i have a good enough computer to run minecraft
#4320 [22:50] <Scott> Wug: just so you know, your old mac thing is ignorant. Leopard is EOL. No companies keep EOL software up to date.
#4321 [22:50] <Scott> That is the entire point of EOL.
#4322 [22:51] <Wug> what ignorant thing did I say
#4323 [22:51] <Wug> I never said it wasnt eol or that eol isnt natural
#4324 [22:51] <Scott> You said it was Apple's fault that 1.8 didn't work on Leopard
#4325 [22:51] <Scott> as they don't keep their OS up to date
#4326 [22:51] <Wug> well it is
#4327 [22:51] <Jovet> fogel: what was the last versino of minecraft that worked for you?
#4328 [22:51] <Scott> The OS is EOL. It won't be updated.
#4329 [22:51] <Wug> you can run minecraft on windows 2000
#4330 [22:51] <sirspazzolot> irrelevant
#4331 [22:51] <fogel> 1.7.3 is the last offcial version but 1.9 pre5 worked for me
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#4333 [22:51] <sirspazzolot> can you run crysis on windows2k?
#4334 [22:51] <fogel> i just couldnt connect via launcher
#4335 [22:51] <Wug> apple doesnt let anyone else do their drivers
#4336 [22:51] <Scott> fogel: I honestly have no idea what to tell you.
#4337 [22:52] <Wug> fogel: Scott is the resident mac expert
#4338 [22:52] <Jovet> hmmm why would Pre5 work and not 1.0? hmmm.
#4339 [22:52] <fogel> could you direct me to where i can download the latest files so i can atleast play offline?
#4340 [22:52] <Scott> If you have a spare hard drive, you could backup your computer using Time Machine and reinstall the OS.
#4341 [22:52] <Scott> If it doesn't work, you could restore from Time Machine.
#4342 [22:52] * TheBadShepperd [TheBadShepperd@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4343 [22:52] <Scott> fogel: It's illegal to distribute the files.
#4344 [22:52] <Wug> 1.0.1 is out?
#4345 [22:52] <Scott> The launcher is the only way to download them.
#4346 [22:52] <fogel> i have bought the game and this is annoying
#4347 [22:53] * FireGuy15207[Fark] [FireGuy15207[Fark]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4348 [22:53] <FireGuy15207[Fark]> hey, quick question
#4349 [22:53] <mib_x3oorr> how do I fix this black screen every time I try to start it happens?
#4350 [22:53] <Scott> mib_x3oorr: What OS?
#4351 [22:53] <FireGuy15207[Fark]> my friend just bought Minecraft, and he wants to know if he can install it on two computers. One for home, and one for work
#4352 [22:53] <Scott> FireGuy15207[Fark]: Yes.
#4353 [22:53] <FireGuy15207[Fark]> thanks
#4354 [22:53] <Scott> As many computers as you want as long as they're yours.
#4355 [22:53] <fogel> so am i basicly screwed here?
#4356 [22:54] <Wug> fogel: pretty much
#4357 [22:54] <fogel> i dont even have my files to play offline now
#4358 [22:54] <FireGuy15207[Fark]> thanks for the help, and the quick response =)
#4359 [22:54] <Wug> :ts/launcher
#4360 [22:54] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#4361 [22:54] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#4362 [22:54] <Wug> fogel: try that
#4363 [22:54] <Wug> it will show us why it isnt connecting
#4364 [22:54] <Jovet> *crosses his fingers*
#4365 [22:55] <fogel> what do i do with the jar? just launch it?
#4366 [22:55] <Wug> mmhm
#4367 [22:55] <fogel> wont launch
#4368 [22:55] <Wug> why not
#4369 [22:55] <fogel> the java jar file mch-launch.jar could not be launched check the console for error messages
#4370 [22:55] <Wug> ?? mac/permissions
#4371 [22:56] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#4372 [22:56] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#4373 [22:56] <Scott> Well, I'm going to shower.
#4374 [22:56] <Scott> Gotta leave the house by 11:15
#4375 [22:56] <Scott> byee!
#4376 [22:56] <Jovet> see 'ya Scott
#4377 [22:56] <Wug> except instead of the other file, chmod +x MCH-Launcher.jar
#4378 [22:56] <sirspazzolot> have a nice night scott
#4379 [22:56] <Scott> sirspazzolot you bet
#4380 [22:56] <Wug> filename is case sensitive
#4381 [22:56] <Scott> I'll be fighting off crazies.
#4382 [22:56] <Jovet> bring back pictures :)
#4383 [22:57] <Scott> black friday = craziness.
#4384 [22:57] <sirspazzolot> I wish I had a job so I could partake
#4385 [22:57] <sirspazzolot> well, a job and no driving curfew
#4386 [22:57] <Scott> I'll sadly be using a credit card.
#4387 [22:57] <Wug> fogel: done that yet
#4388 [22:57] <Scott> The federal reserve is closed so I can't transfer money lol
#4389 [22:57] <fogel> could u pastebin the bit of code for me?
#4390 [22:57] <sirspazzolot> lol
#4391 [22:58] <Wug> really? you want me to pastebin chmod +x MCH-Launcher.jar
#4392 [22:58] <fogel> yes
#4393 [22:58] <Wug> ....
#4394 [22:58] <sirspazzolot> lolwut
#4395 [22:58] <Jovet> if Scott stuck around I'd take his temperature. or is he going to work? hah
#4396 [22:58] <Wug> cant you just copy it
#4397 [22:58] <sirspazzolot> he seems to be going black friday shopping. a lot of stores are opening doors at midnight
#4398 [22:58] <fogel> could you just type out the exact line again?
#4399 [22:58] <Wug> I'm not pastebinning it, its 25 characters long
#4400 [22:59] <Wug> chmod +x MCH-Launcher.jar
#4401 [22:59] <Jovet> so he's one of the crazies he's talking about? :)
#4402 [22:59] <sirspazzolot> I guess so haha
#4403 [22:59] <fogel> no such file or directory
#4404 [22:59] <sirspazzolot> I'm jealous though. I've always wanted to go black friday shopping
#4405 [22:59] <sirspazzolot> instead of MCH-Launcher.jar, type the full path to the file
#4406 [22:59] <Wug> fogel: cd to the directory where the file is
#4407 [22:59] <Wug> or do what sirspazzolot said
#4408 [22:59] <sirspazzolot> or that
#4409 [23:00] <Jovet> maybe his fiancee is dragging him
#4410 [23:00] <fogel> will u tell me what the full path is? im very slow when it comes to these things
#4411 [23:00] <sirspazzolot> it depends on where you saved it...
#4412 [23:00] <Wug> I don't know, its on your computer, not mine
#4413 [23:00] <fogel> desktop lol
#4414 [23:00] <sirspazzolot> probably something to the effect of /Users/YOURNAME/Downloads
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#4416 [23:00] <Wug> cd Desktop
#4417 [23:01] <Wug> then do chmod +x MCH-Launcher.jar again
#4418 [23:01] <fogel> type that into terminal again?
#4419 [23:01] <Wug> first cd Desktop
#4420 [23:01] <Wug> then chmod +x MCH-Launcher.jar
#4421 [23:01] <sirspazzolot> or if you wanna get fancy you could throw some && action in there
#4422 [23:01] <sirspazzolot> unless that doesn't work in os x
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#4424 [23:01] <fogel> so type in cd Desktop then chmod +x MCH-Launcher.jar
#4425 [23:02] <Wug> yes
#4426 [23:02] <sirspazzolot> exactly
#4427 [23:02] <Wug> hit enter in between
#4428 [23:02] <fogel> okay i did that
#4429 [23:02] <Wug> try to launch it again
#4430 [23:02] <fogel> im getting the same error
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#4432 [23:02] <Wug> still have the terminal open
#4433 [23:02] <fogel> yes
#4434 [23:03] <Wug> type java -jar MCH-Launcher.jar
#4435 [23:03] <fogel> Unable to access jarfile MCH-Launcher.jar
#4436 [23:04] <Wug> did the other commands print any errors
#4437 [23:04] <fogel> nope
#4438 [23:04] <sirspazzolot> what does the prompt text before the blinky line say
#4439 [23:04] <fogel> Unable to access jarfile MCH-Launcher.jar
#4440 [23:04] <Jovet> before the blinky line ;)
#4441 [23:04] <sirspazzolot> I mean like with a user name and probably a $ or # in there
#4442 [23:04] <Wug> that is the name right? exactly that?
#4443 [23:04] <Wug> case sensitive?
#4444 [23:04] <fogel> ill just paste eveything in my terminal
#4445 [23:05] <Wug> pastebin it
#4446 [23:05] <fogel> Last login: Thu Nov 24 23:01:56 on ttys000
#4447 [23:05] <fogel> Kevos-Bucket:~ fogel$ java -jar MCH-Launcher.jar
#4448 [23:05] <fogel> Unable to access jarfile MCH-Launcher.jar
#4449 [23:05] <fogel> Kevos-Bucket:~ fogel$
#4450 [23:05] <Wug> THATS NOT PASTEBIN
#4451 [23:05] <fogel> wat
#4452 [23:05] <sirspazzolot> pastie > pastebin IMO ;)
#4453 [23:05] <Jovet> go to http://pastebin.com and paste it and Submit it, tell us the Address it takes you to
#4454 [23:05] <Wug> its a website that stores text
#4455 [23:05] <fogel> http://pastebin.com/JMXxqCkQ
#4456 [23:06] <Wug> there isnt a way to store text better than another way
#4457 [23:06] <fogel> okay there
#4458 [23:06] <Wug> did you close the terminal and open it again
#4459 [23:06] <sirspazzolot> I just prefer pastie because the default theme thing is darker colors
#4460 [23:06] <fogel> yeah
#4461 [23:06] <Wug> you know
#4462 [23:06] <Wug> when I said "do you still have the terminal open"
#4463 [23:06] <sirspazzolot> in terms of functionality they're the same but I think pastie is prettier. :)
#4464 [23:06] <Wug> I meant "do you still have the terminal open"
#4465 [23:06] <Wug> not "can you open it again"
#4466 [23:06] <Wug> -.-
#4467 [23:07] <fogel> okay ill start from the beginning
#4468 [23:07] <fogel> sorry lol
#4469 [23:07] <Wug> cd Desktop
#4470 [23:07] <fogel> k
#4471 [23:07] <Wug> then java -jar MCH-Launcher.jar
#4472 [23:07] <fogel> got a bunch of code
#4473 [23:07] <fogel> brb pastebin
#4474 [23:07] <Jovet> yay
#4475 [23:08] <Wug> god I hate macs
#4476 [23:08] <fogel> http://pastebin.com/xZb8DdML
#4477 [23:08] <Wug> on every other operating system I use you can run that by just double clicking it -.-
#4478 [23:08] <Wug> yeah, it's as I suspected
#4479 [23:08] <Wug> you're probably on an ancient version of java
#4480 [23:08] <fogel> what do i do now?
#4481 [23:09] <Wug> can you update it somehow
#4482 [23:09] <fogel> i dont know. Can i?
#4483 [23:09] <sirspazzolot> any other os meaning windows :P it's still a bit of a hassle in linux
#4484 [23:09] <Wug> sirspazzolot: I can do it on linux too
#4485 [23:09] <Jovet> bad version number?
#4486 [23:09] <fogel> what do i have to do to find my version number?
#4487 [23:09] <Wug> bad version number == jar file is made with a later version of java than what he has
#4488 [23:09] <sirspazzolot> oh, I guess I could just switch the default program for jars to the jre
#4489 [23:09] <Wug> i.e. he's on java 5
#4490 [23:09] <sirspazzolot> but then buh.
#4491 [23:10] <Wug> fogel: go to the software update thingy
#4492 [23:10] <Jovet> yes makes sense.
#4493 [23:10] <sirspazzolot> is this the guy on leopard? I've been paying little attention to names
#4494 [23:10] <Wug> he is
#4495 [23:10] <fogel> okay holdon i have shit tons of updates to sift through and "load"
#4496 [23:10] <Wug> -........-
#4497 [23:10] <Wug> fogel: install each and every one of them
#4498 [23:10] <Jovet> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1359
#4499 [23:10] <fogel> or check for it
#4500 [23:11] <Jovet> what about that link?
#4501 [23:11] <fogel> even garage band update?
#4502 [23:11] <Wug> do you care about garage band even in the utter slightest
#4503 [23:11] <sirspazzolot> wouldn't hurt but it isn't necessary
#4504 [23:11] <fogel> not at all
#4505 [23:11] <Wug> then skip it if you feel like
#4506 [23:12] <Wug> its easier just to install all of them than it is to sort through and pick the ones you want
#4507 [23:12] <fogel> there isnt a java update avalible in my software updates
#4508 [23:12] <Wug> so you might as well just do all of them
#4509 [23:12] <Wug> fogel: try that link Jovet sent then
#4510 [23:12] <Wug> if it doesnt work than theres nothing that can be done
#4511 [23:13] <Wug> apart from updating to something newer than leopard
#4512 [23:13] * Jovet likes his download suggestion. :P
#4512 [23:13] <fogel> downloading
#4513 [23:13] <fogel> why is it such a hassale to update minecraft?
#4514 [23:13] <Wug> because you're using a paleolithic operating system
#4515 [23:13] <Jovet> fogel: it isn't for most people. but every computer is a little different.
#4516 [23:13] <sirspazzolot> minecraft isn't the problem, it's the oldass os
#4517 [23:14] <Wug> my computer handles it fine
#4518 [23:14] <fogel> but i like my os, its cozy
#4519 [23:14] <sirspazzolot> paleolithic. nice vocabulary usage.
#4520 [23:14] <Jovet> as does mine.
#4521 [23:14] <Wug> why thank you
#4522 [23:14] <Jovet> nobody noticed my "think different" reference? :P
#4523 [23:14] <fogel> installing
#4524 [23:15] <Jovet> after that installs, restart it.
#4525 [23:15] <Wug> ;where
#4526 [23:15] <WugBot> I am in the following channels: ##wugbot, #beastnode, #illegal, #minecraft, #minecraftforums, #minecrafthelp, #minecrafthelp.breakroom, #minestatus, #occupyesper, #omegle, #omegle#, #risucraft, #smp, #wugnet.
#4527 [23:15] <Wug> ;save
#4528 [23:15] <fogel> i would still be using tiger if i had it my way
#4529 [23:15] <Wug> ;quit brb, update
#4530 [23:15] <fogel> installtion done
#4531 [23:15] <fogel> now what?
#4532 [23:15] <Jovet> restart
#4533 [23:15] <fogel> restart computer?
#4534 [23:15] <fogel> okay brb
#4535 [23:16] <Jovet> you shoudln't have to, but...
#4536 [23:16] * WugBot [WugBot@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4537 [23:16] <Wug> if it told you to, then do it
#4538 [23:16] <Wug> WugBot: ping
#4539 [23:16] <WugBot> Wug: ping
#4540 [23:17] <Jovet> no pong? I'm dissapointed.
#4541 [23:17] <Wug> WugBot: pong
#4542 [23:17] <sirspazzolot> lol. seconding jovet's disappointment
#4543 [23:17] <Wug> :/
#4544 [23:17] <Wug> it responds with whatever you did to it
#4545 [23:17] <Wug> ;ding
#4546 [23:17] <WugBot> Wug: ding
#4547 [23:17] <Wug> ;poke
#4548 [23:17] <WugBot> Wug: poke
#4549 [23:17] <sirspazzolot> are irc bots relatively easy to program?
#4550 [23:17] <Jovet> hah, no wonder you "love" your bot so much
#4551 [23:18] <sirspazzolot> I'm a noob who has no ideas
#4552 [23:18] <Wug> they're not too hard
#4553 [23:18] <Jovet> sirspazzolot: yes, depending on what you want them to do and how fancy they become.
#4554 [23:18] <Wug> but making them do useful things takes imagination
#4555 [23:18] <sirspazzolot> what does one code them in?
#4556 [23:18] <Wug> anyone can make a bot that idles and says things
#4557 [23:18] <Wug> whatever you want
#4558 [23:18] <Wug> :wugbot
#4559 [23:18] <WugBot> wugbot: Wugbot is wug's bot. It's still actively in development. It is written in c++ with no external libraries (only STL). Its source code is about 305kB, in 143 files, and compiles to an executable 834kB in size.
#4560 [23:18] <sirspazzolot> holy hell, 143 files
#4561 [23:18] <Jovet> lots of classes I suspect
#4562 [23:19] <sirspazzolot> I was proud to keep track to 2
#4563 [23:19] <Wug> theres probably 90 classes or so
#4564 [23:19] <Jovet> 2 classes or 2 files?
#4565 [23:19] * fogel [fogel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4566 [23:19] <Jovet> wb fogel
#4567 [23:19] <fogel> hello
#4568 [23:19] <Wug> does it work
#4569 [23:19] <fogel> what do i do know?
#4570 [23:19] <fogel> now*
#4571 [23:19] <fogel> try to update again?
#4572 [23:20] <Wug> run the regular launcher again
#4573 [23:20] <Jovet> open up the Terminal again and cd Desktop again and try that launch command again.
#4574 [23:20] <Wug> regular launcher, not the special one
#4575 [23:20] <Wug> I dont think it would work anyway
#4576 [23:20] <Wug> I'm led to believe from that update that you still have java 5
#4577 [23:20] * mib_3hvqya [mib_3hvqya@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4578 [23:20] <Jovet> I was kinda curious about java -version
#4579 [23:21] <Jovet> we shoulda done a before and after
#4580 [23:21] <mib_3hvqya> hello?
#4581 [23:21] <mib_3hvqya> help
#4582 [23:21] <Jovet> hi mib_3hvqya.
#4583 [23:21] <Wug> :ww
#4584 [23:21] <WugBot> ww: Help you with what?
#4585 [23:21] <fogel> amazingly minecraft is now updating
#4586 [23:21] <fogel> thanks
#4587 [23:21] <sirspazzolot> woo
#4588 [23:21] <sirspazzolot> enjoy
#4589 [23:21] <Wug> fogel: cool
#4590 [23:21] <Jovet> mib_3hvqya: you can change your nickname to something more sensible like this: /nick somethingmoresensible
#4591 [23:21] <Wug> for the record everyone
#4592 [23:21] <fogel> lol was that really it? did i just have an outdated java version?
#4593 [23:21] <Wug> I asked jeb to update the demo and he said it's coming down the pipe
#4594 [23:21] <mib_3hvqya> my minecraft won't work after the load it cuts to back or white
#4595 [23:21] <Wug> not sure when it will happen but probably soon
#4596 [23:22] <mib_3hvqya> hey Wug it's rumpler
#4597 [23:22] <Jovet> for the record a Mac ignoramous solved it wiht a 2 second google search? LOL
#4598 [23:22] <Wug> rumpler is a mibbit nickname
#4599 [23:22] <Wug> we've seen hundreds if not thousands of people with that nickname
#4600 [23:22] * mib_fuj9cm [mib_fuj9cm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4601 [23:22] <Wug> now stay here this time
#4602 [23:22] <Wug> don't close mibbit
#4603 [23:22] <mib_3hvqya> you'r program didn't work instead something elce happened
#4604 [23:23] <mib_3hvqya> on the downloaded version
#4605 [23:23] <mib_fuj9cm> everytime i try to open minecraft i get a white screen?
#4606 [23:23] <mib_3hvqya> I'm a slow typer
#4607 [23:23] <Wug> mib_3hvqya: the troubleshooting launcher you mean?
#4608 [23:23] <fogel> well im off to enjoy minecraft! thanks for the help
#4609 [23:23] <Wug> mib_3hvqya: what os are you on
#4610 [23:23] <Wug> mib_fuj9cm: you too ^
#4611 [23:23] <mib_3hvqya> yea I guess so
#4612 [23:24] * Jovet demands a pat on the back, considering he usually feels pretty stupid (which he isn't or isn't used to). :) lol
#4612 [23:24] * Wug whacks Jovet clean out of the channel
#4612 [23:24] <mib_fuj9cm> how do i increase my RAM so i have enough to play minecraft
#4613 [23:24] <mib_3hvqya> a random file appears from java says a eror has happened it mentions a bug tio
#4614 [23:24] <mib_3hvqya> to
#4615 [23:25] <Wug> mib_3hvqya: can you pastebin the contents of that file
#4616 [23:25] <Wug> mib_fuj9cm: I dont know, what os are you on
#4617 [23:25] <mib_3hvqya> okay same paste bin thingy
#4618 [23:25] <Jovet> mib_fuj9cm: how much RAM does your computer have?
#4619 [23:26] <mib_fuj9cm> umm os x 10.6.8
#4620 [23:26] <Wug> mib_fuj9cm: go to the software update thingy and install any updates you might have
#4621 [23:26] <Jovet> mib_fuj9cm: click the Apple menu and then "About This Mac" it should say on there how much RAM you have.
#4622 [23:27] * Wug doesnt know what it's actually called but is content to call it the "software update thingy"
#4622 [23:27] <Jovet> isn't it the Update Manager?
#4623 [23:27] * Jovet thinks about Hunter Cressel's video.
#4623 [23:28] <mib_fuj9cm> it say my VRAM is like 365mb
#4624 [23:28] <mib_3hvqya> pastebin.com/SaMnmwet
#4625 [23:28] <Jovet> mib_fuj9cm: physical memory or ram?
#4626 [23:28] <Wug> I think the software update thingy sounds better
#4627 [23:29] <Jovet> he is worried about memory, I am curious how much he has
#4628 [23:29] <Wug> ;+ sut the Software Update Thingy™
#4629 [23:29] <WugBot> Done.
#4630 [23:29] <mib_fuj9cm> idk all it said was VRAM
#4631 [23:30] <Jovet> mib_fuj9cm: oh well then nevermind, guess OSX doesn't show it there.
#4632 [23:30] <mib_3hvqya> is that the right link?
#4633 [23:30] <Robek> do a lot of people with the 32 bit os have memory problems?
#4634 [23:30] <Jovet> Robek: no
#4635 [23:30] <Jovet> Robek: not sure what you mean?
#4636 [23:31] <Robek> my game keeps exiting due to memory problems
#4637 [23:31] <Robek> doesint give a crash report, just says out of memory.. blah blah
#4638 [23:31] <Wug> Robek: he lied
#4639 [23:31] <Wug> tons of people have that issue
#4640 [23:31] <Wug> its pretty much minecraft's biggest bug
#4641 [23:31] <Robek> ah ok
#4642 [23:32] <Wug> if you have a 64 bit computer, grab 64 bit java
#4643 [23:32] <Robek> i have 32 :(
#4644 [23:32] <Jovet> Robek: I have a 32-bit system and don't have too many problems.
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#4646 [23:32] <Wug> I havent had it crash on my laptop very much
#4647 [23:33] <Robek> doesint help me jovet lol
#4648 [23:33] <Wug> but I don't actually play a lot
#4649 [23:33] <Jovet> Robek: tried turning the render distance down from "Far" ?
#4650 [23:33] <mib_3hvqya> just to let you know I'm still here
#4651 [23:33] <Jovet> if it crashes a lot, consider using Simple Graphics, not Fancy
#4652 [23:33] <Wug> lolol I'm on java 6u22
#4653 [23:34] <Jovet> I'm on 1.6.27
#4654 [23:34] <Wug> openjdk and everything
#4655 [23:34] <Robek> thanks jovet, ill try that
#4656 [23:34] <Wug> hmm
#4657 [23:34] <Wug> 18 hours of battery life remainin
#4658 [23:34] <Wug> that sounds like a lot
#4659 [23:34] <Jovet> Robek: I'd have to look at the options screen but most of the other fancy stuff I have turned off. Particles I've left alone.
#4660 [23:35] <Jovet> mib_3hvqya: what makes you think you don't have enough memory? are you getting out of memory errors?
#4661 [23:36] <mib_3hvqya> no
#4662 [23:37] <mib_3hvqya> the game won't start
#4663 [23:37] <mib_3hvqya> at all
#4664 [23:37] <Jovet> mib_3hvqya: so you can't even get the launcher to come up to log in?
#4665 [23:38] <sirspazzolot> are you on windows?
#4666 [23:38] <Jovet> he's on a Mac
#4667 [23:38] <mib_3hvqya> oh yes but after that it cuts to black
#4668 [23:38] <mib_3hvqya> ever lasting darkness
#4669 [23:39] <Jovet> mib_3hvqya: I wonder if it's a permissions 'thing'
#4670 [23:39] <mib_3hvqya> no I'm on windows if you'r talking to me
#4671 [23:39] <Jovet> oh. well damn mib nicknames, can't tell them apart. grrr
#4672 [23:39] <mib_3hvqya> same with the in broser game
#4673 [23:40] <Jovet> mib_3hvqya: what version of Windows?
#4674 [23:40] <mib_3hvqya> XP
#4675 [23:40] <Scott> Loooool.
#4676 [23:40] <Jovet> mib_3hvqya: and how much RAM does your computer have? if you don't know, press Windows+Pause and read the window that appears.
#4677 [23:40] <Scott> I'm looking at #BlackFriday and Walmart on twitter.
#4678 [23:40] <Scott> Someone tweeted someone got stabbed.
#4679 [23:41] <Jovet> at WalMart?
#4680 [23:41] <sirspazzolot> jesus
#4681 [23:41] <Scott> yea lol
#4682 [23:41] <sirspazzolot> in my economics class the teacher made us watch a documentary about all the crimes committed in walmart parking lots
#4683 [23:41] <mib_3hvqya> 2 rams both 500 m.b
#4684 [23:41] <mib_3hvqya> mega bites
#4685 [23:41] <Jovet> mib_3hvqya: so you have 1 GB of RAM, that's good.
#4686 [23:42] <mib_3hvqya> still doesn't work
#4687 [23:42] <Jovet> mib_3hvqya: I'm not surprised, I haven't told you to do anything yet
#4688 [23:42] <sirspazzolot> should he run the jar with the memory constraints on the minecraft download page?
#4689 [23:43] <Jovet> sirspazzolot: not yet.
#4690 [23:43] <sirspazzolot> kY.
#4691 [23:43] <Jovet> mib_3hvqya: have you ever gotten the game to work in the past, or is this your first time?
#4692 [23:44] <mib_3hvqya> first time
#4693 [23:44] <Jovet> mib_3hvqya: okay, start the launcher like you have been, but don't log in--click "Options" then "Force Update"
#4694 [23:45] <mib_3hvqya> I got a program from Wug but it didn't work
#4695 [23:45] <mib_3hvqya> okay
#4696 [23:45] <sirspazzolot> would you happen to know when you last updated java?
#4697 [23:45] <mib_3hvqya> no
#4698 [23:45] <Jovet> (he can go check his java version on their website)
#4699 [23:45] <Wug> mib_3hvqya: you still havent pastebinned any of the error messages it supposedly printed
#4700 [23:45] <mib_3hvqya> now do I login?
#4701 [23:46] <Wug> I cant tell you to do anything unless I know what's wrong
#4702 [23:46] <Jovet> mib_3hvqya: did it indicate it was downloading anything?
#4703 [23:46] <mib_3hvqya> no
#4704 [23:46] <Wug> so pastebin the error message in the hs pid file
#4705 [23:47] <mib_3hvqya> I posted the link a while ago 17.48
#4706 [23:48] <mib_3hvqya> 7.28 sory
#4707 [23:48] <Jovet> indeed he idd
#4708 [23:48] <Jovet> http://pastebin.com/SaMnmwet
#4709 [23:48] <mib_3hvqya> yes
#4710 [23:48] <Jovet> mib_3hvqya: do you know how to update your video drivers?
#4711 [23:49] <mib_3hvqya> no...what are vidio drivers?
#4712 [23:49] <Wug> that would be graphics drivers
#4713 [23:49] <Wug> as Jovet says
#4714 [23:49] <Jovet> meh, they're interchangable to me :P
#4715 [23:49] <mib_3hvqya> we have enlarged our vitual memory
#4716 [23:50] <Jovet> mib_3hvqya: that likely won't help any.
#4717 [23:50] <Wug> mib_3hvqya: you need to update your graphics drivers
#4718 [23:50] <mib_3hvqya> to a recomendable amount
#4719 [23:50] <Wug> :dx > mib_3hvqya
#4720 [23:50] <WugBot> mib_3hvqya: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4721 [23:50] <WugBot> mib_3hvqya: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#4722 [23:50] <mib_3hvqya> I've DONE THIS BEFORE
#4723 [23:50] <Jovet> mib_3hvqya: then you'll know how to do it again.
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#4727 [23:51] <mib_3hvqya> http://pastebin.com/aBUQSKaE
#4728 [23:52] <Jovet> mib_3hvqya: thank you
#4729 [23:52] <mib_3hvqya> here it is http://pastebin.com/aBUQSKaE
#4730 [23:56] <sirspazzolot> WHOA WIN+R IS RUN?
#4731 [23:56] <sirspazzolot> how have I gone this long without knowing this?!
#4732 [23:57] <mib_3hvqya> what?
#4733 [23:57] <Jovet> uhhh yeah sirspazzolot.. . spaz much? ;)
#4734 [23:57] <sirspazzolot> my mind is blown
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#4736 [23:58] <Jovet> mib_3hvqya: hang on yet