#1 [00:00] <Scott> Linux Mint is apparently kinda rough
#2 [00:00] <Scott> they've switched over to GNOME-Shell.
#3 [00:00] <Scott> but they're using mate too
#4 [00:01] <sirspazzolot> my linuxing is just ubuntu but after browsing /g/ a bit lately I'm considering gentoo or arch some bsd thing
#5 [00:01] <sirspazzolot> because that's apparently what the REAL cool kids use
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#8 [00:02] <Scott> I don't use linux on desktops much anymore.
#9 [00:02] <Scott> I prefer OS X.
#10 [00:02] <sirspazzolot> I'm mostly a windows user, but I do love linux and can tolerate os x
#11 [00:02] <Kealper> i use Windows 7 on my main, and my laptop dual boots Windows 7 and Linux Mint 11
#12 [00:03] <Jovet> wake me up when the perfect OS is invented...
#13 [00:03] <sirspazzolot> main is win7 (no linux due to weird graphics card issue and proprietary trackpad drivers) and all my others are ubuntu
#14 [00:03] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/4qba8.png hopefully i've censored all the required things in there
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#16 [00:04] <Jovet> original title.
#17 [00:05] <Kealper> that's just what screen defaults to lol, that's an ssh session to xales.info not just a terminal :P
#18 [00:07] <Scott> Here is me: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9631803/Screenshots/l0gt.png
#19 [00:07] <Jovet> uh huh ;)
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#21 [00:08] <Jovet> I need to bring it up from the web sometime to see what it looks like
#22 [00:08] <Kealper> your laptop's desktop is cooler than mine :<
#23 [00:08] <Scott> lol
#24 [00:09] <Scott> I found the wallpaper on wikimedia commons
#25 [00:09] <Kealper> wow lol
#26 [00:09] <sirspazzolot> I see me in there
#27 [00:09] <Scott> not much is customized.
#28 [00:09] <mib_urxozc> I bought the game over a year ago and now when i try to login it says the username doesnt exist. But it let me change the password with my username after i clicked on forgot password. How can i get this fixed?
#29 [00:09] <Jovet> sirspazzolot: you're not waving
#30 [00:09] * sirspazzolot waves... too late
#30 [00:09] <Kealper> mib_urxozc: you are absolutely 100% positive you are typing in the username and password correctly?
#31 [00:09] <Kealper> mib_urxozc: and does it work on the website?
#32 [00:10] <Jovet> mib_urxozc: there are authentication problems of late, so just because it says your username/password are wrong doesn't mean they are. :-/
#33 [00:10] <mib_urxozc> yes i put in my username and it sent the email to my email account and let me change the password and then i tried to log in again and it still didnt work
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#35 [00:11] <Scott> Kealper: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9631803/Screenshots/9cdw.png :p
#36 [00:11] <Scott> I'll trade you the wallpaper if you buy me this: http://www.amazon.com/Peeps-ebook/dp/B002IEUUVU/
#37 [00:11] <Scott> xD
#38 [00:11] <mib_urxozc> it wont work on the website
#39 [00:11] <Jovet> looks like the missouri river flood. hah
#40 [00:12] <Jovet> mib_urxozc: it could be the website itself. Try again in 5-10 minutes. It will work eventually.
#41 [00:12] <mib_urxozc> ok thanks
#42 [00:13] <Scott> I'd actually like to read this more right now: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005JN8Y5G/
#43 [00:13] <Crus> Alright, I actually got around to doing what you said jovet, by actually having to get on to administrate a server.
#44 [00:13] <Crus> Turns out, java 1.7 doesnt allow you to log onto other mc classic servers.
#45 [00:14] <Crus> Thats probably what was wrong before I reformatted my computer! :D
#46 [00:14] <Crus> I think I just found out a solution to some problems! :DD
#47 [00:14] <Jovet> Java 1.7 is kinda evil yet.
#48 [00:14] <Crus> It's really evil.
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#50 [00:15] <Kealper> Scott: http://i.imgur.com/4qba8.png psh, my desktop is way cooler... so cool that i haven't even downloaded a background yet lol
#51 [00:15] <Crus> and it's highly previous-version incompatable.
#52 [00:15] <Crus> :O
#53 [00:15] <Scott> lol
#54 [00:15] <Crus> kealp, what os?
#55 [00:15] <Scott> i never liked mint much
#56 [00:15] <Kealper> but i did customize my theme!
#57 [00:15] <Crus> What os?? :O
#58 [00:15] <Scott> Their update manager annoys me to death
#59 [00:15] <Kealper> it's normally got a brushed metal look
#60 [00:16] <Kealper> Crus: Linux Mint 11
#61 [00:16] <Crus> oh, nice. :D
#62 [00:16] * Jovet prefers Chocolate Mint.
#62 [00:17] <Kealper> lol
#63 [00:17] * Kealper makes a chocolate mint theme
#63 [00:17] <Scott> In the last book I read, I learned that my cats name is another word for crystal meth.
#64 [00:17] <Jovet> you're such a tease, Kealper
#65 [00:18] <NotWug> Kealper: Play me in Draw My Thing: http://omgpop.com/i/drawmything/u6z43_e0hhv
#66 [00:18] <NotWug> quick
#67 [00:22] <Kealper> i present to the world..
#68 [00:22] <Kealper> Chocolate Mint! http://i.imgur.com/vc2uI.png
#69 [00:23] <Jovet> too minty
#70 [00:23] <Kealper> bah
#71 [00:23] <Jovet> that's not a very minty color. needs more blue
#72 [00:25] <NotWug> Kealper: is that you in there
#73 [00:25] <Kealper> i dunwanna play >:|
#74 [00:25] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/glULk.png
#75 [00:26] <NotWug> Kealper: you HAS to
#76 [00:26] <Kealper> butbutbut
#77 [00:27] <Jovet> it's kinda fun Kealper
#78 [00:27] <Jovet> forget all this "minecraft" crap... hah ;)
#79 [00:28] <NotWug> Kealper: http://omgpop.com/i/drawmything/u73xy_9dce1
#80 [00:29] <NotWug> Kealper: Kealper Kealper Kealper Kealper Kealper Kealper Kealper Kealper Kealper Kealper
#81 [00:29] * Kealper rawrs
#81 [00:29] <Jovet> he failed.
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#85 [00:34] * Kealper lost interest
#85 [00:35] <Jovet> in what?
#86 [00:36] <Kealper> that pictionary ripoff lol
#87 [00:36] <Jovet> oh. hah
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#90 [00:38] <NotWug> KEALPER
#91 [00:38] <NotWug> http://omgpop.com/#/i/drawmything/u74yc_9dce1
#92 [00:38] <NotWug> too late
#93 [00:41] * Jovet eats pecan brittle.
#93 [00:42] <Crus> alright, jovet, got the server under controll, and while running wom, I'
#94 [00:42] <Crus> ll see if Minecraft will run well.
#95 [00:42] <Jovet> sounds like a plan
#96 [00:42] <Crus> I've done EVERYTHING I can to maximize my chance to run it smoothly.
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#100 [00:45] <Crus> it ran for about 3-4 minutes.
#101 [00:45] <Crus> :L
#102 [00:45] <sirspazzolot> any of you doing no shave november?
#103 [00:45] <Crus> I guess that's the most that's possible.
#104 [00:46] <Jovet> Crus: what happens hwen it crashes? any error messages? any hs_err_pdl files?
#105 [00:46] <Crus> me. But it said nothing about "No accedentially plucking your single-haired beard november
#106 [00:46] <Crus> Neither.
#107 [00:46] <Crus> it's the usual out of memory.
#108 [00:46] <Crus> I'll run the minecrafterrortest.bat
#109 [00:47] <sirspazzolot> totally read that as minecraftterrorist
#110 [00:47] <Crus> lol
#111 [00:48] <Jovet> Crus: Have you tried turning down the "render distance" from Far? Have you tried playing on "Simple graphics"?
#112 [00:49] <Crus> nope. But I want the best performance.
#113 [00:49] <Crus> if it does turn out to be out of memory, then I guess that's what I'll have to resort to.
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#115 [00:53] <Crus> Yep. It's out of memory bug.
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#117 [00:54] <Crus> ########## GL ERROR ########## > @ Post render > 1285: Out of memory
#118 [00:54] <Jovet> Crus: go to http://pastebin.com and paste it there, link it here. :P
#119 [00:54] <superalex22> i bought mine craft like an hour ago and it said to wait an hour for it to update and i'm still not premium??????//
#120 [00:54] <Jovet> superalex22: some have to wait a day or even a week.
#121 [00:55] <superalex22> what hy it said an hour
#122 [00:55] <Crus> Can I speak?
#123 [00:55] <Crus> yep.
#124 [00:55] <Crus> XD
#125 [00:55] <Jovet> superalex22: once you get email confirmation of your purchase and the money is withdrawn you can be sure that it will happen eventually (and soon)
#126 [00:56] <superalex22> i even have pics saying thank you for purchasing minecraft!
#127 [00:57] <superalex22> i can email them to you if you ould like
#128 [00:57] <superalex22> ??
#129 [00:57] <Jovet> superalex22: some purchase orders stay in limbo for a while, we don't know why, but assume it's because the site is so dang busy.
#130 [00:57] <Crus> but jovet, I just still don't know why minecraft would be crashing like this.
#131 [00:58] <Jovet> superalex22: we are not Mojang and we don't have any control over people's accounts. You'll just have to be patient and wait for your order to go through and your account to be upgraded.
#132 [00:58] <Jovet> Crus: did you go pastebin.com and paste that into the box and click Submit?
#133 [00:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, I just only put a little 3-lined thing just talking about out of memory
#134 [00:59] <CrusaderDeleters> because it literally says "Out of memory"
#135 [00:59] <Jovet> CrusaderDeleters: oh. that is what Minecraft shows or?
#136 [00:59] <CrusaderDeleters> this is what the minecrafterrortest.bat shows.
#137 [01:00] <Jovet> CrusaderDeleters: in the folder where you launch Minecraft look for a hs_err_pidl or something file(s).
#138 [01:00] <CrusaderDeleters> and I can recognize out of memory errors on the back of my hand. :P
#139 [01:00] <CrusaderDeleters> there's none.
#140 [01:00] <superalex22> ok thanks but what happens if i dont get it in a week??
#141 [01:00] <CrusaderDeleters> also, I'd love to know how to read the hs_err's XD
#142 [01:00] <CrusaderDeleters> super: just hope and pray.
#143 [01:00] <CrusaderDeleters> all we can do to help you.
#144 [01:01] <superalex22> ???
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#146 [01:01] <CrusaderDeleters> Unfortunately, since we are just a community of fans of miencraft on a purpose to help others, and are not employees, we can help you to only an extent.
#147 [01:01] <Jovet> superalex22: if you have gotten no email in a week and your account you paid for it with has not been changed, contact Mojang support at http://minecraft.net/support
#148 [01:01] <CrusaderDeleters> lol, or that.
#149 [01:02] <curmet> i put in my user and pass and it doesnt work. but it worked earlier. why is that?
#150 [01:02] <superalex22> ok
#151 [01:02] <superalex22> bye
#152 [01:02] <Jovet> superalex22: if you get that email from Mojang then just hold tight because it's coming. It shoudln' take a week though, hopefully just a day or two at most.
#153 [01:02] <CrusaderDeleters> !haspaid curmet
#154 [01:02] <CrusaderDeleters> owait
#155 [01:02] <CrusaderDeleters> !paid curmet
#156 [01:02] <superalex22> thanks
#157 [01:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Trying for survival, curmet?
#158 [01:02] <Jovet> curmet: the authentication servers have problems. Just keep trying and it will work eventually.
#159 [01:02] <CrusaderDeleters> !paid CrusaderDeleters
#160 [01:02] <CrusaderDeleters> seems to be working here.
#161 [01:03] <curmet> so what does it mean? does it mean my payment finally is going through?
#162 [01:03] <Jovet> CrusaderDeleters: you can't assume that people's nicknames here are their Minecraft nicknames.
#163 [01:03] <CrusaderDeleters> yeah. :P
#164 [01:03] <CrusaderDeleters> Curmet hasn't paid for mc, but whatever curmet's mc name prolly could.
#165 [01:03] <curmet> i actually have
#166 [01:04] <curmet> im just waiting for it to complete
#167 [01:04] <curmet> this is a rando nickname
#168 [01:04] <CrusaderDeleters> lol.
#169 [01:04] <curmet> random*
#170 [01:04] <CrusaderDeleters> I bought my account over 1 year agol.
#171 [01:04] <TheNytangel> I can recognize out of memory errors when they tell us the error
#172 [01:04] <TheNytangel> WOAH
#173 [01:04] <TheNytangel> chat lag
#174 [01:04] <curmet> so what does it mean again>
#175 [01:04] <CrusaderDeleters> I've had my server birthday about the 29th of august.
#176 [01:05] <CrusaderDeleters> curmet, what's your ign?
#177 [01:05] <sirspazzolot> do you really need to test if he paid that badly?
#178 [01:05] <CrusaderDeleters> I just like the paid command. :3
#179 [01:05] <CrusaderDeleters> and this could be one leap for mankind. :P
#180 [01:06] <TheNytangel> CrusaderDeleters: those of those who know the link, don't need to use !paid
#181 [01:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Ik.
#182 [01:06] <TheNytangel> That is a message from Yoda if I've every seen one
#183 [01:06] <TheNytangel> ever*
#184 [01:06] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#185 [01:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Being a yoda, you are.
#186 [01:07] <TheNytangel> CrusaderDeleters: find me graphics drivers: http://pastebin.com/bd0SvSGC I'm too lazy
#187 [01:07] <TheNytangel> zkxs says I need to update them
#188 [01:07] <sirspazzolot> what is the link, if I may ask?
#189 [01:07] <CrusaderDeleters> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560
#190 [01:07] <TheNytangel> sirspazzolot: we can not release that to the public
#191 [01:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#192 [01:07] <TheNytangel> CrusaderDeleters: good. Now find the drivers.
#193 [01:08] <CrusaderDeleters> which drivers you need?
#194 [01:08] <CrusaderDeleters> there's more than 1 driver. So I'
#195 [01:08] <TheNytangel> Graphics drivers
#196 [01:08] <sirspazzolot> haha alright
#197 [01:08] <CrusaderDeleters> ahh.
#198 [01:08] <TheNytangel> By the way, I'm already 25% downloaded
#199 [01:08] <TheNytangel> Just wasting your time
#200 [01:08] <CrusaderDeleters> nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
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#202 [01:08] <CrusaderDeleters> lol idc.
#203 [01:08] <CrusaderDeleters> I need some time wasted.
#204 [01:08] <coltcolt> why isnt it letting me log in?
#205 [01:09] <coltcolt> to minecraft that is
#206 [01:09] <CrusaderDeleters> lol. If I got a quarter for every time someone asked that question, I'd have enough to buy a cask of mountain dews.
#207 [01:09] <CrusaderDeleters> colt: what exactly is happening?
#208 [01:09] <coltcolt> well
#209 [01:09] <CrusaderDeleters> hey thenyt, do you understand the hs_err_pids?
#210 [01:10] <TheNytangel> What's the full error
#211 [01:10] <coltcolt> about an hour ago i logged in fine. and then just recently it wouldnt let me. i changed my password and its still not letting me
#212 [01:10] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, I just wanna know how to read one. :)
#213 [01:10] <coltcolt> its saying wrong username or password
#214 [01:10] <CrusaderDeleters> hrm, typing it correctly?
#215 [01:10] <coltcolt> yeah i am
#216 [01:10] <CrusaderDeleters> keep trying. I get the same error.
#217 [01:10] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheCar
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#219 [01:11] <WarTheCar> !Paid Warthebar
#220 [01:11] <CrusaderDeleters> war:
#221 [01:11] <CrusaderDeleters> http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=
#222 [01:11] <Scott> You can PM it, WarTheCar.
#223 [01:11] <Scott> As you've been told.
#224 [01:11] <coltcolt> would it have anything to do with the payment i made for it last night?
#225 [01:11] <CrusaderDeleters> just mount you name at the end.
#226 [01:11] <TheNytangel> CrusaderDeleters: we need to kick you now.
#227 [01:11] <CrusaderDeleters> Colt, did you successfully log into survival mode, at any time, between then and now?
#228 [01:11] <CrusaderDeleters> Why?
#229 [01:11] <TheNytangel> That's only for emergencies
#230 [01:12] <CrusaderDeleters> oh. :L
#231 [01:12] <TheNytangel> !paid works perfectly fine
#232 [01:12] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#233 [01:12] <TheNytangel> See?
#234 [01:12] <coltcolt> no. i dont even know how? i havent recieved a conformation email yet
#235 [01:12] <CrusaderDeleters> but it cuts on lag.
#236 [01:12] <CrusaderDeleters> spam*
#237 [01:12] <mib_8tmgbg> I tried to run Minecraft Classic but it wouldn't upload correctly. It said that it couldn't load the logo and progressbar. What should I do?
#238 [01:12] <TheNytangel> Too bad
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#240 [01:12] <superalex22> hello
#241 [01:12] <CrusaderDeleters> lol, I hadn't known this XD
#242 [01:12] <superalex22> again
#243 [01:13] <mib_8tmgbg> Any suggestions?
#244 [01:13] <TheNytangel> superalex22: it was the dog all along
#245 [01:13] <CrusaderDeleters> thenyt, do you think that custom clients would be illegal?
#246 [01:13] <superalex22> i tried buying minecraft one more time
#247 [01:13] <TheNytangel> Wug has made an illegal custom client
#248 [01:13] <TheNytangel> So probably yes
#249 [01:13] <CrusaderDeleters> XD
#250 [01:13] <Scott> Distributing any Mojang IP is illegal.
#251 [01:14] <sirspazzolot> his troubleshooting client is illegal?
#252 [01:14] <superalex22> and it said my credit card is disabled for 24 hours why?
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#254 [01:14] <CrusaderDeleters> I mean, if you HAVE to buy minecraft in order to log into the client, i'm not sure though.
#255 [01:14] <superalex> ?
#256 [01:14] <superalex> ?
#257 [01:14] <CrusaderDeleters> lol, IDK.
#258 [01:14] <TheNoodle> There is a reason wugs client is in his illegal directory...
#259 [01:15] <CrusaderDeleters> I do not know ANYTHING about credit cards. XD
#260 [01:15] <superalex> what
#261 [01:15] <superalex> ????????????
#262 [01:15] <Scott> superalex: Stop spamming.
#263 [01:15] <CrusaderDeleters> it does get a little annoying.
#264 [01:15] <Scott> well fine
#265 [01:15] <TheNytangel> CrusaderDeleters: I do. You get your hands on one, you spend like it's christmas forever
#266 [01:16] <CrusaderDeleters> lol.
#267 [01:16] <Scott> Speaking of which
#268 [01:16] <Scott> I need to go pay my balance off.
#269 [01:16] <TheNytangel> Post your credit card number and address in here first D:
#270 [01:16] <CrusaderDeleters> lol.
#271 [01:16] <WarTheCar> What is the answer of my payment?
#272 [01:16] <TheNytangel> And your full name, and don't forget the number on the back
#273 [01:17] <WarTheCar> I paid yesterday to get Minecraft
#274 [01:17] <WarTheCar> and I
#275 [01:17] <WarTheCar> O
#276 [01:17] <Scott> TheNytangel: Barclays would come eat you.
#277 [01:17] <WarTheCar> O
#278 [01:17] <WarTheCar> >.<
#279 [01:17] <CrusaderDeleters> wow, as minecraft grows, so do the problems.
#280 [01:17] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#281 [01:17] <TheNytangel> Scott: he can do it after I buy $8000 worth of parts for 5 new computers :)
#282 [01:17] <CrusaderDeleters> I wish that I could continue my HardCore quest.
#283 [01:18] <Scott> It wouldn't cost me.
#284 [01:18] <Scott> I'm not liable for fraud. :)
#285 [01:18] <TheNytangel> But you willingly posted it in chat
#286 [01:18] <WarTheCar> Now I hate nothc
#287 [01:18] <TheNytangel> And we have logs
#288 [01:18] <CrusaderDeleters> yeah, I don't know credit jargon. XD
#289 [01:18] <WarTheCar> notch*
#290 [01:18] <CrusaderDeleters> war: the problem is not with notch.,
#291 [01:18] <WarTheCar> Then?
#292 [01:18] <CrusaderDeleters> he is responsible for keeping the company together
#293 [01:19] <CrusaderDeleters> It's noones fault
#294 [01:19] <TheNytangel> It's with the economy
#295 [01:19] <CrusaderDeleters> It's like when a train runs off the tracks.
#296 [01:19] <sirspazzolot> the economic crash wasn't nobody's fault. more like everybody's fault
#297 [01:19] <TheNoodle> :o
#298 [01:19] <CrusaderDeleters> lol.
#299 [01:20] <TheNoodle> Train crashes are notches fault?
#300 [01:20] <TheNoodle> :o
#301 [01:20] <sirspazzolot> oh. that's not even what he was saying.
#302 [01:20] <sirspazzolot> derpa.
#303 [01:20] <CrusaderDeleters> more like the rich damn people's faults. XD
#304 [01:20] <CrusaderDeleters> less than 10% of the population has more than 90% of the money.
#305 [01:20] <sirspazzolot> well, also people taking loans they can't pay off
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#307 [01:20] <CrusaderDeleters> yeah, it's also the doing of richie rich.
#308 [01:21] <sirspazzolot> irresponsibility was the cause of the economic crash. we blame the ones that wound up with the money but we're the ones who gave it to them
#309 [01:21] <CrusaderDeleters> well, it's both their faults.
#310 [01:21] <sirspazzolot> not saying they aren't corrupt as hell
#311 [01:21] <sirspazzolot> but the blame is everywhere.
#312 [01:21] <CrusaderDeleters> yeah.
#313 [01:21] * Jovet thinks a lot of people here don't know what they're talking about, and this isn't #blamesomeone
#313 [01:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Both the Client-
#314 [01:21] <CrusaderDeleters> wait
#315 [01:21] <sirspazzolot> I just like being pretentious:)
#316 [01:21] <CrusaderDeleters> how'd minecraft go from mc to money XD
#317 [01:21] <CrusaderDeleters> sir, let's talk in blamesomeone :P
#318 [01:22] <WarTheCar> You wanna know how?
#319 [01:22] <WarTheCar> Because life needs money
#320 [01:22] <WarTheCar> Nothing is free
#321 [01:22] <CrusaderDeleters> Actually, I blame myself.
#322 [01:22] <WarTheCar> Money = take
#323 [01:22] <WarTheCar> No Money No take
#324 [01:22] <CrusaderDeleters> If I didn't need food, then I didn't need money.
#325 [01:22] <sirspazzolot> wait, is #blamesomeone really a channel?
#326 [01:23] <Jovet> it is now.
#327 [01:23] <CrusaderDeleters> no.
#328 [01:23] <CrusaderDeleters> lol :P
#329 [01:23] <Jovet> anyone can make a channel.
#330 [01:23] <sirspazzolot> I meant an established one :P
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#334 [01:37] <CrusaderDeleters> they're all established.
#335 [01:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Alright. I ahve a problem. I cannot seem to get my computer to run.
#336 [01:39] <Avagdu> I have a problem too, mine is a but more urgent than yours crusader :P
#337 [01:39] <CrusaderDeleters> then tell. :)
#338 [01:39] <Avagdu> I'm getting a Can't connect to minecraft.net error
#339 [01:39] <Avagdu> I can log in on the website fine, but not the client
#340 [01:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Beats me.
#341 [01:40] <Avagdu> just tried the play in browser link- that works fine too
#342 [01:40] <Jovet> Avagdu: the authentication for both the site and the client have been flaky lately. Just keep trying it every few minutes.
#343 [01:41] <Avagdu> jovet, any reason why it would work on my laptop
#344 [01:41] <Avagdu> my desktop is the only thing having issues right now
#345 [01:42] <Jovet> Avagdu: nope. it has a mind of its own.
#346 [01:42] <Avagdu> bleh, i'll try tomorrow i guess
#347 [01:43] <Jovet> that works.
#348 [01:43] <Avagdu> on a side note, where is the fabled 1.0.1?
#349 [01:43] <CrusaderDeleters> you mean prerelease?
#350 [01:43] <CrusaderDeleters> the weekly?
#351 [01:43] <Jovet> Avagdu: that's server only.
#352 [01:43] <Avagdu> ah ok
#353 [01:43] <CrusaderDeleters> ohlol
#354 [01:43] <CrusaderDeleters> jove, I still gotta google that prerelease XD
#355 [01:43] <CrusaderDeleters> I wanna see what's diff.
#356 [01:44] <Jovet> pre-releases were the final betas leading up to the release of 1.0
#357 [01:44] <Jovet> you can't get them anymore
#358 [01:47] <Jovet> but you can read about them on the Version History pages of the wiki
#359 [01:47] <Avagdu> java x64
#360 [01:47] <Avagdu> oops wrong window
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#362 [01:50] <CrusaderDeleters> jovet, they have new weekly pre-releases for ppl to test.
#363 [01:51] <CrusaderDeleters> but they don't have the old prereleases.
#364 [01:51] <Jovet> oh, I see what you mean
#365 [01:53] <CrusaderDeleters> lol :P
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#367 [01:54] <george> ok so i was on earlier and i need help fixing minecraft or something
#368 [01:54] <george> it says that the pixel format is not accelerated? what do i do
#369 [01:55] <george> and how can i trust that this info u give me wont mess up my computer?
#370 [01:57] <Jovet> george: nobody here has a reason to intentionally mess up your computer. But if you are worried or paranoid about it, leave now.
#371 [01:57] <george> ok sorry so umm when i was on earlier they wanted me to like copy and paste this thing onto a site i forgot the name
#372 [01:58] <Jovet> pastebin.com
#373 [01:58] <george> yah so want me to give u link?
#374 [01:59] <Jovet> uhh you can but I forget what was asked of you
#375 [01:59] <Jovet> Post it
#376 [02:00] <george> how do i get minecraft to work, i downloaded the new java and tried to run minecraft but it told me that the pixel format was not accelerated so how i fix?
#377 [02:00] <Jovet> george: you were informed earlier that you must upgrade your graphics card drivers.
#378 [02:00] <CrusaderDeleters> george: if the pixel format is not accelerated, you either: Don't have a good graphics card, or it's outta date.
#379 [02:01] <CrusaderDeleters> yeah...
#380 [02:01] <Jackson413> Kealper
#381 [02:01] * Jovet doesn't even know what pixel format acceleration is. lol
#381 [02:01] <george> yah then i got to the point where i was suppost to download something and then i wasnt able to download cus i had to go
#382 [02:01] <Kealper> O.o
#383 [02:01] <Jovet> I know what a pixel shader is. :P
#384 [02:02] <Jackson413> how do i stop people from DDoS'ing my server?
#385 [02:02] <CrusaderDeleters> jove, it's speeding up the processing of graphics rendering, I think.
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#387 [02:02] <Kealper> Jackson413: depends
#388 [02:02] <sirspazzolot> fists, jackson413
#389 [02:02] <george> so post my postbin thing?
#390 [02:02] <mib_x4x11s> does minecraft work good on laptops?
#391 [02:02] <Jackson413> on what
#392 [02:02] <Jovet> george: give us the link. I'm hoping it's a DXDiag report.
#393 [02:02] <Kealper> Jackson413: what kind of DDoS? are they just account-spamming it or are they actually using a botnet and bombing the server?
#394 [02:02] <mib_x4x11s> you talkin to me?
#395 [02:02] <george> it is
#396 [02:03] <Jackson413> a vps
#397 [02:03] <Kealper> Jackson413: that didn't answer my question lol
#398 [02:03] <mib_x4x11s> does anyone no f minecraft is laggy on laptops???
#399 [02:03] <Kealper> Jackson413: what is the nature of the DDoS.. what are they doing exactly?
#400 [02:03] <Jackson413> they are sending me 4gb of data/second
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#402 [02:03] <Jackson413> that kind of ddos
#403 [02:03] <Jovet> oh
#404 [02:03] <Kealper> so a botnet DDoS
#405 [02:03] <Jackson413> sure
#406 [02:04] <mib_x4x11s> can you answer me someone
#407 [02:04] <Jovet> mib_4a526x: be patient please.
#408 [02:04] <Kealper> Jackson413: only thing you can do is get ahold of your hosting provider, tell them what is going on, and have them nullroute all traffic to your server
#409 [02:04] <Jackson413> what does that mean
#410 [02:04] <Jovet> mib_4a526x: and yes, minecraf may be laggy on a laptop.
#411 [02:04] <sirspazzolot> mib_x4x11s it really depend on the laptop
#412 [02:04] <mib_x4x11s> how could i tell if it will be or not?
#413 [02:04] <Kealper> Jackson413: it's going to block everyone from sending anything to the machine, but it will make it so nothing buffer overflows and starts doing bad shit
#414 [02:04] <george> here it is http://pastebin.com/JWasWFpE
#415 [02:05] <sirspazzolot> min_x4x11s how old is the laptop?
#416 [02:05] <Jackson413> but then they cant connect?
#417 [02:05] <Kealper> Jackson413: so doing it is going to make it seem like they took down your server... but that's the intent... if they think they broke your server, they should give up and then you can have the nullroute lifted
#418 [02:05] <mib_x4x11s> 1 or 2 years
#419 [02:05] <mib_x4x11s> i think 1
#420 [02:06] <Jackson413> then theyll come back??
#421 [02:06] <mib_x4x11s> but minecraft classic wen i play the webclient is laggy when i go in my house
#422 [02:06] <Kealper> Jackson413: but either way... having your server get spammed by a botnet isn't good, it could screw stuff up, corrupt databases, start screwing with memory and such and crash the computer, etc.... bugs come out of the woodwork under super high loads like that
#423 [02:07] <Kealper> Jackson413: what port are they hitting?
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#425 [02:07] <george> tell me what needs to be fixed
#426 [02:07] <sirspazzolot> hm. anyone, is classic easier to run than current mc?
#427 [02:07] <Jovet> sirspazzolot: yes
#428 [02:07] <Jackson413> 3
#429 [02:07] <Jackson413> 25565
#430 [02:07] <mib_x4x11s> if clasisic minecraft on webclient is laggy, will normal be laggy too?
#431 [02:08] <CrusaderDeleters> George: what graphics card do you have?
#432 [02:08] <Kealper> Jackson413: so... your Minecraft server basically
#433 [02:08] <Jovet> mib_x4x11s: probably
#434 [02:08] <Jackson413> yeah
#435 [02:08] <mib_x4x11s> how do i check my graphic card?
#436 [02:08] <Kealper> Jackson413: i'd suggest atleast stopping the Minecraft server while that is going on
#437 [02:08] <Jackson413> it is
#438 [02:08] <Jovet> george: how old is that computer? do you know?
#439 [02:08] <mib_x4x11s> mine>
#440 [02:08] <mib_x4x11s> ?>
#441 [02:08] <Jackson413> this is a server im coowning
#442 [02:09] <Jackson413> basically
#443 [02:09] <george> idk the only thing the other person asked me in my last chat was my computer thingy idk and that was E510 idk if that helps but
#444 [02:09] <Kealper> Jackson413: let's take this to query, i've got a few other questions
#445 [02:09] <Scott> Kealper that is why we carry raid
#446 [02:09] <Jovet> george: so it is a Dell E510 ?
#447 [02:09] <sirspazzolot> mib_x4x11s are you on windows?
#448 [02:09] <george> yah
#449 [02:10] <sirspazzolot> bye
#450 [02:10] <Jovet> apparently so, it crashed. ;)
#451 [02:10] <sirspazzolot> if I wanted to just get a graphics card from someone, what do I ask for?
#452 [02:11] <sirspazzolot> talk through device manager or just make them gimme dxdiag?
#453 [02:11] <Jovet> it for free? :P
#454 [02:11] <sirspazzolot> you know what I mean :P
#455 [02:11] <george> anything helpful for me?
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#457 [02:11] <Jovet> oh. lol dxdiag works okay, the device manager route can work but it seems to take longer
#458 [02:11] <sirspazzolot> alright
#459 [02:11] <Jovet> george: hang on a minute
#460 [02:11] <george> aight
#461 [02:13] <TTT2114> is this where i can get help for minecraft problems
#462 [02:13] <sirspazzolot> TTT2114 in an ideal world, yes
#463 [02:13] <sirspazzolot> we will try to help you
#464 [02:13] <TTT2114> ok
#465 [02:13] <sirspazzolot> mostly everyone else, I'm dumb.
#466 [02:13] <sirspazzolot> ask away
#467 [02:14] <TTT2114> so when i play all the mobs, chests, signs, boats appear black
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#469 [02:14] <sirspazzolot> do you have any mods or texture packs installed?
#470 [02:14] <TTT2114> nope just the standard stuff
#471 [02:15] <sirspazzolot> hm. try opening the launcher, clicking options and hitting force update
#472 [02:15] <Expandranon> Ello. Where do I go to ask about trouble downloading the game? I paid by CC, twice in fact, a few days ago, and the site says I'm still not premium.
#473 [02:15] <sirspazzolot> website is busy. give it some time.
#474 [02:16] <sirspazzolot> supposedly some people have needed a week
#475 [02:16] <Jovet> george: download this: http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/04/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats?DriverId=R129651&FileId=2731114031
#476 [02:16] <TTT2114> well it was working fine before up until the 1.8 update
#477 [02:16] <george> k
#478 [02:16] <sirspazzolot> are you on 1.0 right now?
#479 [02:16] <TTT2114> yes
#480 [02:17] <sirspazzolot> hm.
#481 [02:17] <Expandranon> A week? Sheesh.
#482 [02:17] <Jovet> TTT2114: while you're playing the game and you have the anomoly in the viewport, press F2 to tak a screen shot.
#483 [02:18] <Expandranon> Did somebody roll the clock back to 1977 when I wasn't looking? :P
#484 [02:18] <Jovet> Expandranon: a few hours to a few days is most common though, for those where it isn't instant.
#485 [02:18] <george> jovet do i try minecraft now?
#486 [02:18] <Jovet> george: no. lol did you get that downloaded?
#487 [02:18] <george> yes
#488 [02:18] <TTT2114> do u need a bit more background info
#489 [02:19] <Jovet> george: okay good. do you know how to disable your antivirus software?
#490 [02:19] <george> maybe
#491 [02:19] <CrusaderDeleters> lol.
#492 [02:20] <Jovet> TTT2114: once you have a screen shot or two, assuming you're running Windows, press Windows+R and enter: %appdata% and press Enter. Then dbl-click on Screen shots. Find the screen shot file you took, and upload it to someting like http://imgur.com and give us a link to that picture.
#493 [02:20] <TTT2114> ok can do
#494 [02:20] <Jovet> george: go ahead and disable it... if it asks how long, just 15 minutes or so.
#495 [02:22] <Jovet> george: did you get it disabled?
#496 [02:23] <george> yah i think so
#497 [02:23] <sirspazzolot> I'm gonna go to bed. goodnight everyone
#498 [02:23] <george> now what?
#499 [02:23] <Jovet> george: okay, open the file you downloaded a few minutes ago. double-click on it. Click OK or Next or whatever, and it will install some files to your computer. It should say "unzipped succesflly" or something, and then an installation program should start. Let me know when you get to that point.
#500 [02:25] <george> it automatically did that when u 1st gave me the link to download
#501 [02:25] <Expandranon> Thanks, all. I'll just wait a couple more days, I guess. If it doesn't go through, I'll just dispute the charges with my CC and move on.
#502 [02:25] <Jovet> george: ahh okay. So the installer started?
#503 [02:25] <Jovet> Expandranon: it will go through eventually, though.
#504 [02:26] <george> yes and it was completed i think it said that they were unzipped succesefully and that was it
#505 [02:26] <Jovet> george: okay, then open up My Computer
#506 [02:26] <george> k
#507 [02:26] <Jovet> george: then open up your C: drive.
#508 [02:27] <george> k
#509 [02:27] <Jovet> george: then find a folder called Dell and open that up
#510 [02:27] <george> k
#511 [02:27] <Jovet> george: how many folders do you see here?
#512 [02:27] <george> 4
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#514 [02:28] <Jovet> george: do you see a R129651 folder?
#515 [02:28] <george> no
#516 [02:28] <george> wait yes
#517 [02:28] <Jovet> george: okay dbl-click that and go in there
#518 [02:29] <george> k
#519 [02:29] <Jovet> george: do you see a file called "Setup" ?
#520 [02:29] <george> 7 of them
#521 [02:30] <george> 3 have image things next to them and are blank
#522 [02:30] <Jovet> george: go to the "Tools" menu, and then "Folder Options" and then the "View" tab.
#523 [02:30] <Jovet> george: on the View tab should be a long list of options, near the top should be "Hide file extensions for known file types". See that?
#524 [02:31] <george> no im still here at the setup icons
#525 [02:31] <Jovet> george: go to the "Tools" menu, and then "Folder Options" and then the "View" tab.
#526 [02:32] <george> idk how to get to the "tools" menu im stuck lol
#527 [02:33] <Jovet> george: at the top of the "R129651" window you should see: File Edit View Favorites Tools Help
#528 [02:33] <Jovet> george: right below where it says "R129651" at the very top part of the window.
#529 [02:34] <george> it says organize include in library share with burn and new folder
#530 [02:37] <Jovet> george: okay. locate the second "Setup" file in the list
#531 [02:38] <Jovet> george: it should have kind-of a blue picture with white triangles next to it.
#532 [02:38] <george> ok click it and it asks me to download?
#533 [02:39] <Jovet> george: click No or Cancel
#534 [02:39] <TTT2114> http://imgur.com/a/Egxzo this is the link to the screen shots
#535 [02:40] <Jovet> TTT2114: you're using Minecraft version 1.0.0?
#536 [02:40] <TTT2114> yes
#537 [02:40] <Jovet> george: did you find the file with the blue picture with white triangles next to it?
#538 [02:41] <george> yes
#539 [02:41] <Jovet> TTT2114: what happens if you remove one of those torches, or place a new one, near those black blobs?
#540 [02:41] <george> and i clicked and sayd no
#541 [02:41] <Jovet> george: don't do the thinking, let me do that for you. did you find the file with the blue picture with white triangles next to it?
#542 [02:41] <TTT2114> the chests have appeared black no matter where i have placed the torches
#543 [02:42] <george> yes
#544 [02:42] <Jovet> george: and you double-click it, what happens?
#545 [02:44] <george> it asks me to make changes to my computer
#546 [02:44] <Jovet> george: let it. :)
#547 [02:47] <george> it said it couldnt locate any drivers compatible with my computer
#548 [02:47] <Jovet> george: darn it
#549 [02:47] <Jovet> george: well that was a big waste of time.
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#551 [02:48] <george> so?
#552 [02:50] <TTT2114> is there any help for me
#553 [02:51] <george> ???
#554 [02:51] <george> no minecraft for me?
#555 [02:51] <Jovet> TTT2114: dunno, haven't seen that problem. It was a bug in a later beta of Minecraft. But it didn't affect all those things.
#556 [02:51] <Jovet> george: I'm not sure what else to tell 'ya. You should probably find someone local who can fix your computer.
#557 [02:52] <george> k thanks for ur help :)
#558 [02:54] <TTT2114> does this help, i had trouble downloading the game from the website after i bought it so, i got it from a thumb drive from a friend and transferred the minecraft file from there, i did this in update 1.7 and everything was fine until i downloaded 1.8 and then the blackness arrived
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#560 [02:56] <Jovet> ouch
#561 [02:56] <TTT2114> ?
#562 [02:56] <Jovet> that's uhhh not legal to do
#563 [02:56] <TTT2114> well i bought the game
#564 [02:56] <Jovet> but you should do the Force Update thing. If you're having trouble downloading it yourself we can try to help with that.
#565 [02:57] <amphiboly> optifine for 1.0.0 was released, it sure helps
#566 [02:57] <Jovet> /ignore amphiboly
#567 [02:57] <TTT2114> ok
#568 [02:58] <TTT2114> so any suggestions
#569 [02:58] <Jovet> TTT2114: well first stop Minecrat if it's running.
#570 [02:58] <TTT2114> ok
#571 [02:58] <Jovet> TTT2114: next start the client again, but click Options and then "Force Update" Let us kno what happens.
#572 [02:58] <amphiboly> minexraft with ramdisk+ optifine is a dream on slow laptops. perfect!
#573 [02:58] <Jovet> what's your minecraft username?
#574 [02:59] <TTT2114> TTT2114
#575 [02:59] <Jovet> !paid TTT2114
#576 [02:59] <amphiboly> my minecraft name is amphiboly. I paid
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#578 [03:00] <frogzilla> uhh hello?
#579 [03:00] <Jovet> uhhh hi
#580 [03:01] <frogzilla> are you one of the people that know how to fix minecraft?
#581 [03:01] * Kealper coughs
#581 [03:01] <Jovet> frogzilla: all of us, in theory. Spit it out and someone will try to help you.
#582 [03:01] <amphiboly> anyone who complains about minecraft lagging should install optifine+ramdisk. it's terrific
#583 [03:02] <TTT2114> nothing happened, its still black
#584 [03:02] <frogzilla> well i dont know if its lag on its own but the game freezes instantly after 5 seconds of gameplay
#585 [03:03] <Jovet> TTT2114: did it indicate it downloaded files?
#586 [03:03] <frogzilla> yes
#587 [03:03] <TTT2114> yes
#588 [03:03] <Jovet> frogzilla: "freeze instantly after 5 seconds" care to rephrase that? ;)
#589 [03:04] <frogzilla> ...it skips?
#590 [03:04] <Jovet> frogzilla: has it ever worked okay for you in the past or are you just installing it for the first time?
#591 [03:05] <frogzilla> first time playing
#592 [03:06] <Jovet> frogzilla: so you log in and get to the main menu and click "Single Player" and select your world, the world loads, and then 5 seconds later Minecraft freezes?
#593 [03:06] <frogzilla> yes
#594 [03:06] <TTT2114> frogzilla what is the fog distance set on
#595 [03:07] <CrusaderDeleters> amphiboly: what is ramdisk?
#596 [03:07] <frogzilla> like how far i can see fog?
#597 [03:07] <Jovet> CrusaderDeleters: don't ask
#598 [03:08] <CrusaderDeleters> lol.
#599 [03:08] <amphiboly> the list of things to do to make your computer play minecraft properly is scary. I'd start with this mod http://muttsworldmine.com/forums/topic/1288-optifine-100-hd-a-release-for-mc-v10/
#600 [03:08] <frogzilla> render distance: tiny
#601 [03:08] <CrusaderDeleters> I wish there were some code en and dehancers.
#602 [03:09] <TTT2114> frogzilla wat about the performance
#603 [03:09] <frogzilla> balanced
#604 [03:09] <TTT2114> try max fps
#605 [03:09] <Jovet> code dehancers??
#606 [03:09] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#607 [03:10] <amphiboly> frogzilla also do everything it says at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-22-updated-on-nov-6/
#608 [03:10] <CrusaderDeleters> well, I'mma give it another shot at survival.
#609 [03:11] <amphiboly> the creepers always get me in survival, since they don't disappear at daytime
#610 [03:11] <Jovet> TTT2114: I found someting on the known bugs page
#611 [03:12] <TTT2114> ok
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#613 [03:12] <Jovet> TTT2114: "This appears to be fixed by turning off Anti-Aliasing, or telling your Video Card to let the application choose the settings. Fixed it on a Nvidea 8600 GT and a Radeon HD mobility 4350"
#614 [03:13] <TTT2114> how do i do that
#615 [03:13] <WugBot> TTT2114: (pf) You need to set up port forwarding on your router for people outside of your network to access your Minecraft server. First, find out your public ip address by issuing this command in this channel: ;ip
#616 [03:13] <WugBot> TTT2114: (pf) Then, locate the make and model of your router on this site for detailed instructions: http://goo.gl/DsVIL
#617 [03:13] <Kealper> wat
#618 [03:13] <Jovet> ROTFL @ WugBot
#619 [03:13] <amphiboly> it'screepers not dying after sunrise is an interesting part of the game
#620 [03:13] <Kealper> WugBot: no, not even close
#621 [03:13] <Jovet> that is just so wrong
#622 [03:13] <Jovet> TTT2114: what kind of graphics card do you have?
#623 [03:14] <TTT2114> ATI 128
#624 [03:15] <Jovet> frogzilla: what version of Java do you have? http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#625 [03:16] <frogzilla> well i just downloaded the 64 bit version
#626 [03:16] <Jovet> frogzilla: if you have a 64-bit OS, that may indeed help.
#627 [03:16] <frogzilla> OS?
#628 [03:16] <Jovet> OS = Operating System
#629 [03:17] <frogzilla> oh
#630 [03:18] <amphiboly> wugbot you recall how I used to whine that minecraft 1.0.0 would not run properly on my slow laptop after doing all the simple advice. optifine for 1.0.0 just came out, and it makes a dramatic impeovement
#631 [03:19] <frogzilla> okay would having absolutely no room on my C:\ drive effect Minecraft?
#632 [03:20] <Kealper> TTT2114: are you sure you have one of those?
#633 [03:20] <Jovet> TTT2114: how old is your computer?
#634 [03:20] <Jovet> frogzilla: yes
#635 [03:20] <amphiboly> wugbot mincraft plays as sweetly as Doom or Halflife
#636 [03:20] <AndrewPH> WugBot is a bot sir.
#637 [03:21] <Kealper> AndrewPH is a bot too, sir.
#638 [03:21] <frogzilla> that's going to be a problem then because i have no idea what programs i dont need
#639 [03:21] <AndrewPH> Kealper is also a bot sir
#640 [03:21] <Jovet> frogzilla: not having any space on your hard drive is an emergency. you need to make some pronto.
#641 [03:21] <amphiboly> no room on my C:\ drive would snafu Minecraft
#642 [03:22] <Jovet> frogzilla: what operating system are you using?
#643 [03:22] <Jovet> TTT2114: are you still there?
#644 [03:22] <TTT2114> i believe its a 2007 model, but we have recently upgraded the computer with better stuff like the video card
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#646 [03:23] <Jovet> ??> TTT2114 win/dxdiag
#647 [03:23] <frog> hi
#648 [03:23] <VoxelHead> TTT2114: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#649 [03:23] <VoxelHead> TTT2114: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
#650 [03:23] <Jovet> hi frog
#651 [03:23] <TTT2114> ?
#652 [03:23] <Kealper> vox is so broken right now
#653 [03:23] <amphiboly> could minecraft run on a computer with < 1 gbyte ram?
#654 [03:23] <frog> ive got a problem when i start mc
#655 [03:23] <Kealper> amphiboly: yes, but not well
#656 [03:24] <Jovet> TTT2114: ...in your browser's address bar, and copy it to the chat here so we can see it.
#657 [03:24] <Kealper> uhh
#658 [03:24] <frog> i see mojang screen loading mc then when i see the main menu i cant do anything
#659 [03:24] <Kealper> i don't think he got anything, i think vox is broken
#660 [03:24] <frog> like freeze
#661 [03:24] <Kealper> ??< index
#662 [03:24] <Jovet> Kealper: I saw it
#663 [03:24] <Kealper> oh, Understudy is here taking over
#664 [03:24] <Kealper> or do i have.... vox ignored?
#665 [03:24] * Kealper looks
#665 [03:25] <SinZ> ??< index
#666 [03:25] <TTT2114> the url address?
#667 [03:25] <TheNoodle> ??> Kealper attitude
#668 [03:25] <VoxelHead> Kealper: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#669 [03:25] <VoxelHead> Kealper: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#670 [03:25] <TheNoodle> Can you see that? :P
#671 [03:25] <SinZ> 0.o whos understudy
#672 [03:25] <AndrewPH> /whois Understudy
#673 [03:25] <TheNoodle> Understudy is vox's understudy
#674 [03:25] <Jovet> TTT2114: yes, once you click Submit on that site, it will take ou to a page showing that text. We need to know the address of that page.
#675 [03:25] <TheNoodle> duh
#676 [03:25] <SinZ> whos bot
#677 [03:25] <AndrewPH> obviously Understudy is "Not Voxelhead"
#678 [03:26] <SinZ> dopeghoti's
#679 [03:26] <frogzilla> wait. these are bots?
#680 [03:26] <TTT2114> https://cbe002.chat.mibbit.com/?url=irc%3A%2F%2Firc.esper.net%2FMineCraftHelp%2F ok this is it
#681 [03:26] <Kealper> -!- Irssi: Unignored VoxelHead
#682 [03:26] <Kealper> ._.
#683 [03:26] * Jovet slaps Kealper with a large paternity suite.
#683 [03:26] * Kealper slaps Kealper around a bit with an unreasonably massive trout
#683 [03:27] <Jovet> frogzilla: a few users are robots, not most everyone
#684 [03:27] <Jovet> TTT2114: nope
#685 [03:28] <Jovet> TTT2114: hold down the Windows key (between Ctrl and Alt) on your keyboard, and then tap "R", and then let go of the Windows key. in the box that pops up enter: dxdiag and press Enter.
#686 [03:28] <amphiboly> I'm looking for a mod that displays light level that works. What's my light level does not. (WMLL) this makes exploring caves impossible
#687 [03:29] <SinZ> ?? mods
#688 [03:29] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#689 [03:29] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#690 [03:29] <TTT2114> ok
#691 [03:30] <amphiboly> vox what is the right channel for mod support?
#692 [03:30] <Jovet> TTT2114: if it asks you a question, just choose Yes.
#693 [03:31] <amphiboly> vox try saying anything in risu's channel and get kicked
#694 [03:31] <Jovet> TTT2114: once it's all loaded, click "Save all information..." a the bottom of the window. Save it to your Desktop.
#695 [03:31] <Jovet> frogzilla: still there?
#696 [03:32] <amphiboly> vo is there a minecraft channel for newbies?
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#698 [03:33] <amphiboly> vox something is wrong wity risu's modloader but try to tell him that. I dare you
#699 [03:35] <amphiboly> many of the mods that depend on modloader do not work under 1.0.0
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#701 [03:36] <frogzilla> yes
#702 [03:36] <amphiboly> even if they claim to
#703 [03:36] <Jovet> frogzilla: how much space is free on your computer?
#704 [03:36] <stardruid> hmm anyone having issues with enchamtment being lost on times on death in SMP? have several users reporting it happening
#705 [03:36] <stardruid> er time=items
#706 [03:36] <Jovet> stardruid: I believe it's a bug
#707 [03:36] <TTT2114> ok
#708 [03:36] <frogzilla> 761 MB free of 76.6 GB -_-
#709 [03:37] <frogzilla> it makes me question the importance of most of these files
#710 [03:38] <amphiboly> frogzilla you got 761 MB free of 76.6 GB ram?
#711 [03:38] <frogzilla> yes
#712 [03:38] <Jovet> frogzilla: that's enough space to not need to panic
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#714 [03:39] <frogzilla> okay but how am i suppose to tell which files aren't important?
#715 [03:39] <Jovet> TTT2114: open the file you saved on your desktop, it should open in Notepad. Press Ctrl+A to Select it all, then Ctrl+C to copy it all to the clipboard buffer. Go to http://pastebin.com and then Paste into the box there (Ctrl+V) and then click Submit. It will take you to a different page, give us the URL of that page ( you can Copy/paste it too)
#716 [03:40] <amphiboly> if you got > 76.6 GB ram, you got a powerful computer.
#717 [03:40] <Jovet> frogzilla: disabling hibernation suppport is a quick way to get some memory. Depending on your version of Windows, it will be in the Control Panel under Power or Power Management or something.
#718 [03:41] <frogzilla> Is power options the same thing?
#719 [03:41] <Jovet> yes
#720 [03:42] <SinZ> frogzilla: is that memory, or diskspace?
#721 [03:42] <Jovet> SinZ: I doubt he has 76GB of memory. :P
#722 [03:43] <SinZ> ^
#723 [03:43] <frogzilla> memory
#724 [03:43] <frogzilla> no really i do
#725 [03:43] <SinZ> since most computers have 1-16gb ram
#726 [03:43] * Jovet retires from offering help for the evening.
#726 [03:44] <TTT2114> http://pastebin.com/UFAYLWPU here it is
#727 [03:45] <frogzilla> and i have a local disk (D:) with 41.9 GB free of 74.5 GB
#728 [03:45] <frogzilla> (D : )
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#730 [03:45] <frogzilla> why? is that not normal?
#731 [03:47] <Jovet> didd't you say you were out of disk space?
#732 [03:48] <frogzilla> well on my C:\ drive.
#733 [03:48] <frogzilla> why? is there a way to put it on my D:\ drive?
#734 [03:49] <Jovet> frogzilla: yes, kinda.
#735 [03:49] <frogzilla> would it possibly fix the freezing issue?
#736 [03:50] <Jovet> coudln't hurt. but it's a bit involved to do.
#737 [03:50] <frogzilla> meaning?
#738 [03:50] <Jovet> meaning it isn't someting I'd be awake enough to walk you through tonight. hah
#739 [03:50] <frogzilla> oh ok
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#741 [03:51] <frogzilla> well i gotta go to bed anyways
#742 [03:51] <Jovet> frogzilla: clear your recycle bin. Clear your Web browsers' caches. there are things you can do to try to free disk space.
#743 [03:51] <bootthanoo> hello
#744 [03:51] <Jovet> hi
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#746 [03:51] <bootthanoo> minecraft isn't working
#747 [03:51] <FireGuy15207[Fark]> has the east-west minecart problem been fixed?
#748 [03:51] <bootthanoo> I am running Ubuntu 11.10
#749 [03:52] <frogzilla> thanks for telling me these things. I'll try what i can and i'll come back if things still aren't going well
#750 [03:52] <bootthanoo> thanks :)
#751 [03:52] <bootthanoo> thanks :)
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#753 [03:52] <Jovet> bootthanoo: tried Force Updating?
#754 [03:53] <bootthanoo> it says it can't init ( initilize maybe) GLX
#755 [03:53] <bootthanoo> yes i tried forcing update
#756 [03:53] <TTT2114> so wat do i do now
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#758 [03:54] <dauphin327> Help
#759 [03:55] <dauphin327> I need my email changed because somebody goes on my email and changes password of my minecraft account help please cause i cant live with this anymore
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#761 [03:55] <Jovet> bootthanoo: dunno, I am not a linux person. ask Kealper. hah
#762 [03:56] <Kealper> hmm?
#763 [03:56] <dauphin327> :(
#764 [03:56] <Jovet> dauphin327: you can't change your email to my knowledge. Why don't you change your email's password :P
#765 [03:56] <bootthanoo> http://mibpaste.com/17ZqwZ
#766 [03:56] <bootthanoo> darnz
#767 [03:56] <Kealper> bootthanoo: did you allow Ubuntu to install what it calls "restricted drivers"?
#768 [03:56] <bootthanoo> I believe so, let me check
#769 [03:56] <Jovet> TTT2114: did you get the web address of the stuff you should have submitted to that page?
#770 [03:56] <dauphin327> i tryed but the person keeps getting on my email, he must have a brute force hacker
#771 [03:57] <dauphin327> :(
#772 [03:57] <TTT2114> yes, u want me to copy and paste it
#773 [03:57] <Jovet> dauphin327: use a REAL password, like 23f34TJ243tgj34^#$%J#$%rg343j345t#$@
#774 [03:57] <Kealper> lol
#775 [03:57] <dauphin327> I did
#776 [03:57] <Jovet> dauphin327: then you might have a virus or keylogger on your system.
#777 [03:57] <Kealper> ^
#778 [03:58] <dauphin327> I type passwords randomly like #(@(58250203185$@*3 and save it on my notes (irl)
#779 [03:58] <dauphin327> no
#780 [03:58] <bootthanoo> I have the restricted extras installed
#781 [03:58] <dauphin327> there isnt
#782 [03:58] <dauphin327> i have like 5 anti viruses
#783 [03:58] <Kealper> bootthanoo: hmm... what graphics card do you have?
#784 [03:58] <Jovet> 5? that's a horrible idea
#785 [03:58] <dauphin327> norton 360,tune up etc..
#786 [03:58] <bootthanoo> how do I check
#787 [03:58] <TTT2114> heres the web address http://pastebin.com/UFAYLWPU
#788 [03:59] <dauphin327> ...
#789 [03:59] <dauphin327> it said, only staff can change email addresses in minecraft
#790 [03:59] <Kealper> bootthanoo: that i'm not sure of, let me check real fast
#791 [03:59] <Kealper> i know it's a switch on lspci but i have to see what one :o
#792 [03:59] <dauphin327> but this is an S.O.S :/
#793 [04:00] <bootthanoo> Kealper: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
#794 [04:00] <Kealper> bootthanoo: screw it we'll do it live, open a terminal and type "lspci" without quotes
#795 [04:00] <Kealper> bootthanoo: that works lol
#796 [04:00] <bootthanoo> :D
#797 [04:01] <Jovet> dauphin327: we are NOT Mojang staff.
#798 [04:01] <Kealper> bootthanoo: hmm.....are you using two monitors?
#799 [04:01] <dauphin327> :(
#800 [04:01] <Kealper> bootthanoo: say.... like an external monitor plugged in to your laptop?
#801 [04:02] <TTT2114> jovet wat do i do now
#802 [04:02] <bootthanoo> no
#803 [04:02] <dauphin327> then im leaving and write an email to them good bye all wonderful people!
#804 [04:02] <dauphin327> :)
#805 [04:02] <Jovet> TTT2114: hang on
#806 [04:02] <Kealper> bootthanoo: hmm...
#807 [04:02] <TTT2114> ok
#808 [04:03] <Kealper> bootthanoo: one sec
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#810 [04:05] <dauphin327> minecraft 1.0.1 is released? but where do i find the client?? please help
#811 [04:05] <bootthanoo> minecraft.net/download.jsp
#812 [04:05] <Jovet> dauphin327: 1.0.0 is the current client.
#813 [04:05] <bootthanoo> if you have the current client
#814 [04:05] <bootthanoo> hit [option]
#815 [04:05] <dauphin327> yes but i was just in minecraftforums i got minecraft server 1.0.1 but is there a client?
#816 [04:05] <bootthanoo> then [force update]
#817 [04:06] <Jovet> dauphin327: 1.0.0 is the current client.
#818 [04:06] <bootthanoo> then it will upgrade your client
#819 [04:06] <bootthanoo> methinks
#820 [04:06] <dauphin327> i am not using minecraft sp im a premium user i only downloaded from minecraft.net :s
#821 [04:06] <dauphin327> it doesnt have a force update button
#822 [04:06] <Jovet> dauphin327: if you ahve minecraft 1.0.0, you have the current version.
#823 [04:06] <dauphin327> lyes i do
#824 [04:06] <dauphin327> yes i do*
#825 [04:07] <dauphin327> What is this then
#826 [04:07] <Jovet> 1.0.1 is the current server, 1.0.0 is the current client.
#827 [04:07] <dauphin327> ohh
#828 [04:07] <dauphin327> ohh
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#830 [04:07] <Kealper> why on earth doesn't Intel compile their drivers for Linux
#831 [04:07] <dauphin327> in the future.. will there be minecraft 1.0.1 clients and clients like minecraft 2.0.0?
#832 [04:08] <Jovet> Linux users enjoy compiling.
#833 [04:08] <Kealper> bootthanoo: do you enjoy compiling? xD
#834 [04:08] <Jovet> dauphin327: We are not privy to the version number release plans of Minecraft.
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#836 [04:08] <TTT2114> can u help me plz now, my parents r yelling at me to go to bed
#837 [04:08] <dauphin327> Where can i find out?
#838 [04:08] <bootthanoo> not really, but when it comes down to minecraft i'lll compile all night to play XD
#839 [04:08] <Kealper> bootthanoo: but in all seriousness, check for a package called mesa in the package manager
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#841 [04:09] <Kealper> bootthanoo: hopefully we can just have you make sure the necessary components are installed before having you install git and building your own drivers from the source ._.
#842 [04:10] <mib_086g0c> hi we need to work out how to get a new password as we set up the wrong email when we first set it up
#843 [04:10] <Jovet> TTT2114: lol I have to look up the info to help you. Do you have a program called Catalyst?
#844 [04:10] <mib_086g0c> no
#845 [04:10] <Jovet> dauphin327: only Mojang and God knows.
#846 [04:10] <dauphin327> You believe in god?
#847 [04:10] <dauphin327> :D
#848 [04:10] <TTT2114> i dont think so
#849 [04:10] <Jovet> dauphin327: yes I do :P
#850 [04:10] <bootthanoo> i think this may work
#851 [04:11] <dauphin327> But, you never saw proof that god is real..
#852 [04:11] <Jovet> TTT2114: go get some sleep and come back here tomorrow, you can resume then
#853 [04:11] <mib_086g0c> can anyone help, my son set his email address up wrong at the start of minecraft, got kicked out of it and now needs a new password
#854 [04:11] <Jovet> dauphin327: don't tell me what I have and haven't seen :P
#855 [04:11] <Kealper> bootthanoo: did you find mesa in there?
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#857 [04:12] <bootthanoo> no
#858 [04:13] <Kealper> bootthanoo: open a terminal and type out: sudo apt-get install mesa
#859 [04:13] <Kealper> bootthanoo: see what that gets you
#860 [04:13] <Kealper> bootthanoo: see what that gets you
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#862 [04:13] <bootthanoo> unable to locate package mesa
#863 [04:13] <Kealper> O.o
#864 [04:14] <Kealper> ubuntu, y u have to be so different
#865 [04:14] <rymate1234> lol
#866 [04:15] <Kealper> bootthanoo: try this: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
#867 [04:15] <bootthanoo> already installed
#868 [04:15] <Kealper> hmm
#869 [04:16] <Kealper> i really don't know then.... let me look to see if your graphics chip is even the one i'm thinking it is..
#870 [04:16] <bootthanoo> found something that might work
#871 [04:16] <bootthanoo> but
#872 [04:16] <bootthanoo> it uninstalls a ton of packages
#873 [04:16] <Kealper> anything that sounds important? lol
#874 [04:17] <bootthanoo> video driver for the amd grahpics accellerator
#875 [04:17] <Kealper> that will probably just break something, as you've got an intel graphics card, not an amd one :/
#876 [04:18] <bootthanoo> !idea
#877 [04:19] <bootthanoo> a tad bit crazy but i think it might work
#878 [04:19] <bootthanoo> write down all the packages it is uninstalling
#879 [04:19] <bootthanoo> install the new one
#880 [04:19] <bootthanoo> then if it doesn't work, reinstall them
#881 [04:19] <bootthanoo> like maybe via terminal
#882 [04:20] <bootthanoo> if i can't get screen working, i might could ssh into it through another computer
#883 [04:20] <bootthanoo> think it might work?
#884 [04:20] <Kealper> that.... could work... or you could just reinstall that xserver-xorg-video-intel package lol
#885 [04:20] <Kealper> that should get all associated packages...
#886 [04:20] <bootthanoo> will try that ;)
#887 [04:20] <Kealper> but i still don't think that amd one will fix it
#888 [04:20] <Kealper> but yet again.... it is linux so you never know ._.
#889 [04:21] <bootthanoo> reinstalled
#890 [04:21] <bootthanoo> wish me luck :D
#891 [04:23] <bootthanoo> test
#892 [04:23] <Kealper> rawr
#893 [04:24] <bootthanoo> hmmm thinking back. this happened when i installed the KDE packages
#894 [04:24] <bootthanoo> ima try uninstalling them
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#896 [04:27] <bootthanoo> ubuntu should come with a coffee coupon
#897 [04:29] <Kealper> a coffee coupon? lol
#898 [04:29] <bootthanoo> keeps me up all night lol
#899 [04:30] <bootthanoo> brb gonna restart
#900 [04:30] <Kealper> ahh lol
#901 [04:30] <Kealper> well, good luck with that
#902 [04:31] <Kealper> unfortunately... it's 4:30 am here and i should get running off :/
#903 [04:31] <Kealper> and i'm not some linux guru, so i can't help much more than what i've already done, you've just about exausted my helping abilities for Linux
#904 [04:31] <Kealper> damnit
#905 [04:32] <Kealper> .msg bootthanoo and i'm not some linux guru, so i can't help much more than what i've already done, you've just about exausted my helping abilities for Linux
#906 [04:32] <CaelThunderwing> i'm no guru but whats he need help w/? i'm wired from an can of Monster Assault XL
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#908 [04:33] <Kealper> CaelThunderwing: http://mibpaste.com/17ZqwZ
#909 [04:34] <CaelThunderwing> something about new kernel update is F**ing w/ java last i overheard,
#910 [04:34] <CaelThunderwing> does he have Java 6 or Java 7 installed?
#911 [04:35] <Kealper> that's a good question, but it seems to be a graphics-related issue
#912 [04:36] <Kealper> it's unable to initialize OpenGL, like it isn't there
#913 [04:36] <CaelThunderwing> What graphics card does he have?
#914 [04:36] <Kealper> Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
#915 [04:37] <CaelThunderwing> Ewwwwwwwww
#916 [04:37] <Kealper> hmm.. is that old?
#917 [04:37] * Kealper checks
#917 [04:37] <CaelThunderwing> Ew, those are known to have OpenGL issues
#918 [04:38] <Kealper> i love how if you google that, the entire search is just full of Ubuntu OpenGL issues
#919 [04:38] <Kealper> ok so.... seems it's just a crappy graphics card
#920 [04:38] <CaelThunderwing> thte intel onboard ones always blow
#921 [04:38] <Kealper> bootthanoo: looks like your graphics card doesn't play well with OpenGL, looking at these google search results
#922 [04:39] <Kealper> well, i've got a GMA950 in my laptop and it works right out of the box on both Windows and Linux
#923 [04:39] <Kealper> granted it doesn't work real hard, but it does work lol
#924 [04:40] <CaelThunderwing> you see the GMA950 more in macbooks than windows based laptops,
#925 [04:40] <Kealper> mine is a business laptop, so it was probably put in there to save money
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#927 [04:41] <Kealper> but meh, i don't ask it nor expect it to play games, so it suits me just fine lol... plays 1080p youtube fullscreen'd and supports Windows 7 hardware acceleration... good enough for me
#928 [04:41] <CaelThunderwing> is bootthanoo's pc a Desktop or Laptop?
#929 [04:41] <Kealper> laptop from the "mobile" part of it's graphics chip
#930 [04:42] <Kealper> well anyways, almost 5am, i've really gotta hit the hay :/
#931 [04:42] <CaelThunderwing> you Might have SOME luck running it in windows obver Linux,
#932 [04:42] <CaelThunderwing> the Driver for that card in Ubuntu Might not support OpenGL.
#933 [04:45] <CaelThunderwing> take it bootthanoo has gone AFK,
#934 [04:45] * rymate1234 is away: be back later
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#935 [04:56] <CaelThunderwing> then i guess i'm going to play some SNES and hit the hay later on (had to take teh server my friend an di run.. (it was getting to where it would take too long to load a portion of the map. )
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#937 [05:00] <JellyOpera> Hello. I'm trying to host a minecraft server that me and a couple of friends could play a survival game on. I have two computers: a desktop (Windows XP) and a laptop (Windows 7 64-bit). I'm running minecraft_server.exe on my desktop and I was able to connect on my desktop by clicking "Direct Connect" and typing "localhost". I then tried to connect using my laptop. I tried "localhost", my...
#938 [05:00] <JellyOpera> ...internal ip address (which I got from running 'cmd' and typing "ipconfig") and my public ip (which I got by googling). I'm not sure why it just throws me this error on the laptop: "Failed to connect to the server (line break) Connection refused: connect". If anyone could offer any insight, I'd really appreciate it.
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#941 [05:05] <AG_Clinton> JellyOpera: Did you port forward?
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#943 [05:07] <JellyOpera> AG_Clinton: No, and I don't really know what that means. I'm not computer deficient or anything, so you could tell me what to do (or point me to a tutorial) and I'd understand.
#944 [05:08] <JellyOpera> Also, thanks for the response. :P
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#946 [05:09] <bootthanoo> bootthanoo: hi
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#948 [05:10] <bootthanoo> sorry i went afk fr\or a bit
#949 [05:10] <JellyOpera> hi!
#950 [05:10] <bootthanoo> hi
#951 [05:10] <Ninemmtylenol> OHAI
#952 [05:10] <bootthanoo> hi
#953 [05:10] <Ninemmtylenol> =D
#954 [05:11] <bootthanoo> =D
#955 [05:11] <Ninemmtylenol> ?
#956 [05:11] <JellyOpera> :3
#957 [05:11] <Ninemmtylenol> XD
#958 [05:11] <bootthanoo> X3'
#959 [05:11] <Ninemmtylenol> ??
#960 [05:11] <Ninemmtylenol> Is this a stareing contest?
#961 [05:11] <AG_Clinton> JellyOpera: You need to login to your router first of all.
#962 [05:12] <Ninemmtylenol> Would help if we know what kind of router it is first.
#963 [05:14] <JellyOpera> I think it's a Verizon MI424WR
#964 [05:16] <JellyOpera> Hm. My father probably has the user and password to this. Looks like it'll have to wait. :|
#965 [05:16] <Ninemmtylenol> JellyOpera: Is there some desktop application that you can use to sets the routers other configurations?
#966 [05:17] <JellyOpera> err...such as?
#967 [05:17] <JellyOpera> what would I be looking for?
#968 [05:17] <Ninemmtylenol> Like if they sent you some kind of CD.
#969 [05:17] <Ninemmtylenol> And you installed it.
#970 [05:17] <Ninemmtylenol> And this application would pop up when you need to connect.
#971 [05:18] <Ninemmtylenol> Anything like that?
#972 [05:18] <JellyOpera> Well. Not that I know of really, no.
#973 [05:18] <Ninemmtylenol> Mhmk
#974 [05:18] <JellyOpera> I'd probably need my dad to get me all this stuff.
#975 [05:18] <JellyOpera> He set up this computer before I knew anything about this stuff.
#976 [05:18] <CaelThunderwing> back for a sec,
#977 [05:18] <CaelThunderwing> Port Forwarding isnt going to hamper an intenrnal Network.
#978 [05:19] <Ninemmtylenol> Can you type http://router/ in IE and get to some kind of settings page?
#979 [05:19] <CaelThunderwing> that'd only affect someone else on the net to connect,
#980 [05:19] <CaelThunderwing> the PC hosting may have a firewall installed.
#981 [05:20] <JellyOpera> I don't get anything when I type that, Ninemmtylenol. Does it have to be IE?
#982 [05:20] <Ninemmtylenol> Sometimes.
#983 [05:20] <Ninemmtylenol> Like on mine.
#984 [05:20] <Ninemmtylenol> I gots a Belkin
#985 [05:20] <Ninemmtylenol> And in Chrome I cna't do that.
#986 [05:20] <JellyOpera> I'll try IE
#987 [05:20] <Ninemmtylenol> But in IE it sends me to the router settings page.
#988 [05:20] <Ninemmtylenol> Mhm
#989 [05:21] <CaelThunderwing> the other computer you trie dto connect from the one that gave you that Error, is it connected on teh same router or you using 2 routers on the same network?
#990 [05:22] <JellyOpera> same router, CaelThunderwing.
#991 [05:22] <CaelThunderwing> ok is the Hosting PC using any kind of firewall even the windows one?
#992 [05:22] <JellyOpera> yes, I believe both Windows and McAfee.
#993 [05:23] <CaelThunderwing> Disable the windows one. (kinda overkill to have 2 Firewalls going)
#994 [05:23] <CaelThunderwing> and Alow the Minecraft_server.exe in approved program sin MacAffe
#995 [05:24] <JellyOpera> already did
#996 [05:24] <CaelThunderwing> try disabling both . it maybe gettin over paranoid w/ minecraft
#997 [05:24] <CaelThunderwing> (i had the same issue on my windows server 2k3 box and Comodo)
#998 [05:24] <Ninemmtylenol> JellyOpera: Made it to the router settings?
#999 [05:25] <JellyOpera> No, Ninemmtylenol, didn't work on IE eiter
#1000 [05:25] <Ninemmtylenol> Ahh well another thing...
#1001 [05:25] <JellyOpera> CaelThunderwing, how do I disable Windows firewall?
#1002 [05:25] <CaelThunderwing> Ninemmtylenol Portforwarding will be an issue down the line, and not every router will give the settings via http://router/
#1003 [05:25] <CaelThunderwing> What OS do you have? its a lil diff between XP and vista/7
#1004 [05:26] <JellyOpera> XP for the server machine.
#1005 [05:26] <CaelThunderwing> ok give me Just a sec,
#1006 [05:26] <JellyOpera> take your time, and thanks so much, everybody.
#1007 [05:26] <Ninemmtylenol> Control panel
#1008 [05:26] <Ninemmtylenol> internet
#1009 [05:26] <Ninemmtylenol> Then Firewall
#1010 [05:27] <JellyOpera> internet options?
#1011 [05:27] <JellyOpera> oh nvm
#1012 [05:27] <Ninemmtylenol> XD
#1013 [05:27] <Ninemmtylenol> You see it?
#1014 [05:27] <JellyOpera> wasn't in category view
#1015 [05:28] <JellyOpera> more bullshit.
#1016 [05:28] <Ninemmtylenol> ROFL
#1017 [05:28] <JellyOpera> and God damn
#1018 [05:28] <Ninemmtylenol> Ooo
#1019 [05:28] <JellyOpera> why do they make it so you can't copy paste the error?
#1020 [05:28] <Ninemmtylenol> Easy with the words.
#1021 [05:28] <JellyOpera> sorry.
#1022 [05:28] <JellyOpera> :x
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#1024 [05:28] <Ninemmtylenol> It's k
#1025 [05:29] <Ninemmtylenol> Ohh and I read your manual sir =P
#1026 [05:29] <Ninemmtylenol> And found the IP address to type in your browser.
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#1028 [05:29] <Pr33dat0r> We made a map in version 1.8.1 with bukkit, but after we patched the server with the new bukkit version which works with minecraft 1.10 we couldn't open the world. Do we have to update the map? How can we do that?
#1029 [05:29] <JellyOpera> It says: "Windows Firewall settings cannot be displayed because the associated service is not running. Do you want to start the Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) service?"
#1030 [05:30] <Ninemmtylenol> Ooo
#1031 [05:30] <JellyOpera> Ninemmtylenol: If you mean what I type to get to the browser login, I have that
#1032 [05:30] <JellyOpera> I just don't have the user and pass
#1033 [05:30] <CaelThunderwing> Start- My Network Places -> View Network Connections -> Local Area Connection--> *right click*-> properties --> Advanced Tab --> Windows Firewall
#1034 [05:30] <CaelThunderwing> this method is winded but you can selectively disable per network adapter the windows firewall
#1035 [05:31] <CaelThunderwing> (incase you have an Eithernet adapter And a Wireless Adapter)
#1036 [05:31] <JellyOpera> Same error message as above.
#1037 [05:31] <JellyOpera> It said it was on in one place
#1038 [05:31] <JellyOpera> and it's saying it's off here.
#1039 [05:31] <CaelThunderwing> sorry didnt see
#1040 [05:31] <Ninemmtylenol> Prolly already disabled.
#1041 [05:31] <JellyOpera> alright. let's assume it's disabled.
#1042 [05:31] <Ninemmtylenol> JellyOpera: Who's all connecting?
#1043 [05:32] <JellyOpera> Right now I just want to get my laptop to connect.
#1044 [05:32] <Ninemmtylenol> People on the LAN or WAN or both?
#1045 [05:32] <Pr33dat0r> Hey...Can anybody help me?
#1046 [05:32] <Ninemmtylenol> Ohh
#1047 [05:32] <JellyOpera> It'd end up being people over internet
#1048 [05:32] <Ninemmtylenol> JellyOpera: Local host doesn't work on the laptop?
#1049 [05:32] <CaelThunderwing> both as it sounded like she mentioned a pc on her network refused a connection
#1050 [05:32] <JellyOpera> nope. throws and error.
#1051 [05:32] <JellyOpera> an error*
#1052 [05:33] <JellyOpera> Okay wait
#1053 [05:33] <CaelThunderwing> for people over the net you Will need to port forward
#1054 [05:33] <JellyOpera> just to clarify
#1055 [05:33] <Ninemmtylenol> Okay go ahead.
#1056 [05:33] <CaelThunderwing> but theres more to the issue if even local connections fail,
#1057 [05:33] <WarTheCar> Did notch die?
#1058 [05:33] <JellyOpera> I have a PC (XP) and a laptop (7 64 bit)
#1059 [05:33] <Ninemmtylenol> RIght
#1060 [05:33] <JellyOpera> I'm hosting on the PC
#1061 [05:34] <WarTheCar> Did notch die?
#1062 [05:34] <CaelThunderwing> War No
#1063 [05:34] <JellyOpera> successfully connected running a client on the PC and typing "localhost"
#1064 [05:34] <WarTheCar> oh -.-
#1065 [05:34] <JellyOpera> and now I'm trying to connect on the laptop and I can't.
#1066 [05:34] <Ninemmtylenol> Well one thing
#1067 [05:34] <CaelThunderwing> it hasnt been 3 days Since you purchased yet?
#1068 [05:34] <Ninemmtylenol> JellyOpera: Go to the router page
#1069 [05:35] <CaelThunderwing> if ots been over 3 days send an email to him w/ your purchased #
#1070 [05:35] <JellyOpera> I've had minecraft for a long time, CaelThunderwing.
#1071 [05:35] <CaelThunderwing> sorry referring to WarTheCar
#1072 [05:35] <JellyOpera> oh okay
#1073 [05:35] <JellyOpera> haha
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#1075 [05:35] <JellyOpera> Ninemmtylenol: you mean type my internal ip in my browser?
#1076 [05:35] <Ninemmtylenol> Yeah
#1077 [05:35] <JellyOpera> okay. I'm on it.
#1078 [05:35] <Ninemmtylenol> you know the login?
#1079 [05:36] <JellyOpera> The problem here (which is why I wanna wait) is that I don't know the login
#1080 [05:36] <Ninemmtylenol> admin
#1081 [05:36] <Ninemmtylenol> password
#1082 [05:36] <CaelThunderwing> and JellyOpera router page will likely be http://192.168.1.1 or http://192.168.1.254 or 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.2.1
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#1084 [05:36] <JellyOpera> CaelThunderwing: it's the first one I'm on it.
#1085 [05:37] <Ninemmtylenol> JellyOpera: You get in?
#1086 [05:37] <JellyOpera> nope. :\
#1087 [05:37] <Ninemmtylenol> The manual states that the login is "admin" and the password is "password".
#1088 [05:37] <CaelThunderwing> thats good and said if her father didnt change it,
#1089 [05:38] <CaelThunderwing> most routers have that as a default,
#1090 [05:38] <JellyOpera> I'm assuming he changed it.
#1091 [05:38] <JellyOpera> Also I'm a boy.
#1092 [05:38] <JellyOpera> :3
#1093 [05:38] <Ninemmtylenol> JellyOpera: Reset the router.
#1094 [05:38] <CaelThunderwing> sorry the name kinda throws it off ^^;;
#1095 [05:38] <Ninemmtylenol> Button in the back.
#1096 [05:38] <JellyOpera> Understandable, CaelThunderwing.
#1097 [05:39] <JellyOpera> The one you gotta get at with a pen, Ninemmtylenol?
#1098 [05:39] <CaelThunderwing> wait JellyOpera do you have verizon FiOS?
#1099 [05:39] <Ninemmtylenol> Yep =D
#1100 [05:39] <JellyOpera> :P
#1101 [05:39] <JellyOpera> yeah, CaelThunderwing.
#1102 [05:39] <CaelThunderwing> a hard reset Might Not be a good idea,
#1103 [05:40] <CaelThunderwing> it May lose your account info and you could wind up having to call verizon to re-set it up.
#1104 [05:40] <CaelThunderwing> so avoid a hard 30-30-30 if at all possible,
#1105 [05:40] <JellyOpera> So don't press the button? :x
#1106 [05:40] <CaelThunderwing> ( thats where you force the router into defaults)
#1107 [05:41] <CaelThunderwing> a qick tap will only power cycle it
#1108 [05:41] <CaelThunderwing> but dont do a hard 30-30-30
#1109 [05:41] <JellyOpera> but then what will a quick tap actually do?
#1110 [05:41] <JellyOpera> nothing right?
#1111 [05:41] <CaelThunderwing> only a power cycle same thing if you pull its power
#1112 [05:42] <CaelThunderwing> and Ninemmtylenol sorry if i jumpe dthe gun thinking you might of told him to hard 30-30-30 it,
#1113 [05:43] <Ninemmtylenol> SHould of asked whether it's one of those 3G connections.
#1114 [05:43] <CaelThunderwing> i did that once w/ the all in one Router when i had FiOS in Virgina, and i had to have verizon walk me thru on the phone to re-set it up.
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#1116 [05:44] <JellyOpera_> Quick tap.
#1117 [05:44] <Ninemmtylenol> Ohh I jus thought they sold routers without service.
#1118 [05:45] <CaelThunderwing> ya know thers a short way to See if its router related somehow or Firewall related, but its a lil though. (i use this method to Keep my xbox1 thats modded connected to my PC to stream movies to it,)
#1119 [05:45] <CaelThunderwing> Ninemmtylenol theres teh Modem only deals then the "Wireles shome networking kit" (the one w/ a seperate router , sometimes you get an all in one deal from em)
#1120 [05:46] <Ninemmtylenol> Ew
#1121 [05:46] <Ninemmtylenol> XD
#1122 [05:46] <JellyOpera> you know, I'll just handle this tomorrow guys
#1123 [05:46] <JellyOpera> It'll be cake if dad's awake with the password
#1124 [05:46] <CaelThunderwing> yea, he maybe to help or others here in the mornin/noon.
#1125 [05:47] <JellyOpera> well, I found a tut on port forwarding
#1126 [05:47] <JellyOpera> so I wasn't expecting you guys to just be at my convenience xD
#1127 [05:47] <JellyOpera> but again, thanks so much for your time
#1128 [05:47] <CaelThunderwing> no prob.
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#1130 [05:48] <JellyOpera> Good night, folks.
#1131 [05:49] * CaelThunderwing goes Back to playing Secret of Mana
#1131 [05:49] <CaelThunderwing> ((<3 the Flammie :3))
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#1134 [05:50] <obi_wan> hi
#1135 [05:50] <obi_wan> Can someone please help me?
#1136 [05:50] <WugBot> obi_wan: (ww) Help you with what?
#1137 [05:51] <obi_wan> My minecraft account won't work
#1138 [05:51] <TheNoodle> Can you be more specific
#1139 [05:52] <obi_wan> :(
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#1141 [05:52] <obi_wan> Umm, I can't login
#1142 [05:52] <TheNoodle> Where? the client?
#1143 [05:52] <obi_wan> It says oops worn password or username
#1144 [05:52] <obi_wan> but it is correct
#1145 [05:52] <obi_wan> yeah
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#1147 [05:52] <obi_wan> the website
#1148 [05:52] <obi_wan> :(
#1149 [05:53] <obi_wan> I havn't played for a week
#1150 [05:53] <obi_wan> and it doesn't work now :( :(
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#1152 [05:53] <obi_wan> Hrllo?????
#1153 [05:53] <TheNoodle> Where did you purchase minecraft obi_wan?
#1154 [05:53] <obi_wan> Hello?*
#1155 [05:54] <TheNoodle> Calm down.
#1156 [05:54] <obi_wan> at the website
#1157 [05:54] <obi_wan> I'm sorry
#1158 [05:54] <CaelThunderwing> whats the name you purchased as?
#1159 [05:54] <TheNoodle> So you purchased minecraft from minecraft.net?
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#1161 [05:54] <TheNoodle> If os, reset your password.
#1162 [05:54] * CaelThunderwing sighs " I cant stop watching IRC i'm Never going to get progress in my game XD
#1162 [05:54] <TheNoodle> :resetpass
#1163 [05:54] <WugBot> resetpass: You can reset the password for your minecraft account using the following page: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1164 [05:55] <obi_wan> i did
#1165 [05:55] <obi_wan> but it still doesn't work
#1166 [05:55] <obi_wan> Sigh
#1167 [05:56] <CaelThunderwing> obi_wan What was the name you registered when you purchased your copy?
#1168 [05:56] <obi_wan> StormBlad3z
#1169 [05:56] <CaelThunderwing> !paid StormBlad3z
#1170 [05:57] <CaelThunderwing> ok it did go thru Maybe your mistyping your pass,
#1171 [05:57] <CaelThunderwing> a reset should clear it up.
#1172 [05:57] <obi_wan> I did it alot of times
#1173 [05:57] <obi_wan> I reset it 5 times already
#1174 [05:57] <obi_wan> Nothing works
#1175 [05:57] <obi_wan> Everyone has this problem
#1176 [05:58] <CaelThunderwing> i'm able to login just fine,
#1177 [05:59] <obi_wan> Did you purchase it in the beta
#1178 [05:59] <CaelThunderwing> yea,
#1179 [05:59] <obi_wan> Well mine doesn't :(
#1180 [05:59] <CaelThunderwing> Just Shortly before 1.0 though
#1181 [05:59] <obi_wan> I did too but it doesn't log in
#1182 [05:59] <obi_wan> Same
#1183 [05:59] <CaelThunderwing> (same day 1.0 went out but 7hrs before,
#1184 [06:00] <obi_wan> Ohokay
#1185 [06:00] <obi_wan> Well Idunno why it doesn't work
#1186 [06:00] <obi_wan> Can I contact mojang?
#1187 [06:02] <obi_wan> Hello?
#1188 [06:02] <CaelThunderwing> i'm mid playing a game so .. but as to that i think theres a contact link on minecraft.net
#1189 [06:03] <obi_wan> ok
#1190 [06:08] <madalynn> I can't add texture packs on my mac.
#1191 [06:08] <madalynn> help plz
#1192 [06:10] <madalynn> ?
#1193 [06:11] <CaelThunderwing> i dont know how to do it on a mac, my MBP failed last week and the last 2 OS X ready macs are TOO old,
#1194 [06:11] <madalynn> ok
#1195 [06:12] <madalynn> anything that might work?
#1196 [06:13] <CaelThunderwing> i wouldnt know howto on a mac , Sorry,
#1197 [06:13] <madalynn> thanks
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#1199 [06:14] <frogaincia> can you help me?
#1200 [06:14] <CaelThunderwing> hard to w/o knowing what you needfm
#1201 [06:14] <CaelThunderwing> *need,
#1202 [06:15] <frogaincia> It wont let me buy the game it says there was a problem purchasing the game
#1203 [06:16] <CaelThunderwing> is your payment method able to send in Euros?
#1204 [06:16] <frogaincia> Im using paypal
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#1206 [06:17] <CaelThunderwing> i mean the Ban it's Tired to
#1207 [06:17] <CaelThunderwing> *bank
#1208 [06:17] <CaelThunderwing> or credit card,
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#1210 [06:18] <frogaincia> possibly not... should i buy a prepaid card or how should I get around this?
#1211 [06:18] <mib_jw7mt5> i can't update my minecraft to v 1.0.
#1212 [06:18] <CaelThunderwing> transfeer the purchase price from bank to Paypal Funds. then try again frogaincia
#1213 [06:19] <CaelThunderwing> mib_jw7mt5, w/ the launcher click Options, then click "Force"
#1214 [06:19] <CaelThunderwing> if not, What OS you using
#1215 [06:19] <frogaincia> ok thank you very much I will try this! JC havent had much help you are the first one to even try...if this fails as well is there an alternative?
#1216 [06:20] <mib_jw7mt5> i can't update my minecraft to v 1.0.
#1217 [06:20] <CaelThunderwing> can always try a pre-paid card but having transfered any $$ to paypal funds Should work, thats how i paid,
#1218 [06:20] <CaelThunderwing> and mib_jw7mt5 try selecting "Force" in options.
#1219 [06:20] <CaelThunderwing> otherwis ei nee dto know what OS you have,
#1220 [06:20] <frogaincia> ok thank you again
#1221 [06:21] <mib_jw7mt5> just says unable to connect and doesn't work
#1222 [06:22] <CaelThunderwing> Not sure about it as it 's acting like it cant see your internet Connection.
#1223 [06:22] <mib_jw7mt5> yep
#1224 [06:22] <mib_jw7mt5> is there another way to update it
#1225 [06:22] <mib_jw7mt5> ?
#1226 [06:22] <CaelThunderwing> not legally by Notch's ToS
#1227 [06:23] <mib_jw7mt5> and...
#1228 [06:23] <CaelThunderwing> i'm not going to discuss it as doing it that way is a against the ToS
#1229 [06:24] <CaelThunderwing> i can suggest that try it on another PC or on a diffrent net connecton.
#1230 [06:24] <mib_jw7mt5> ok, thanks anyway
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#1232 [06:36] <CaelThunderwing> ughhh soo wished Snes9X GX had netplay ;-;
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#1242 [07:04] <mib_dm1q0b> black window of death!
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#1246 [07:18] <timna> Hi guys, I'm very new to minecraft - have played the demo that was on a nag disc. I've bought the premium 3 days ago, downloaded the exe file, but as soon as it starts downloading the update it stops at 6% and the freezes. Have I done something wrong?
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#1248 [07:28] <amphiboly> timna it requires a lot of minecraft wizardry to make it run on ordinary computers
#1249 [07:31] <amphiboly> one prob is javava rubs about 1/19 slower than games coded in C
#1250 [07:31] <timna> o goodness! this is an entertainment laptop -intel core i3...with i-don't-know-how-much-memory.
#1251 [07:32] <timna> Do you think my java isn't up to date?
#1252 [07:33] <amphiboly> you have to really gear your computer up to make minecraft run nicely
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#1254 [07:34] <Mistwarrior> hello, anyone on knowing abit of minecraft servers?
#1255 [07:34] <timna> can you make suggestions on what exactly I'll need?
#1256 [07:38] <amphiboly> I thought my java wa up to date so I visited the java url, which agreed with my guess. but we were wrong, my computer could run 64bit java, but that software didn't warn me. I had to force an ynrcommebhde upgrade
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#1258 [07:38] <CaelThunderwing> now that i got to a save point i can finaly get to bed, but word of advice, amphiboly Dont install Java 7.
#1259 [07:39] <CaelThunderwing> Minecraft Will not work under Java 7
#1260 [07:39] <Mist> Anyone on knowing abit of server issues?
#1261 [07:39] <Ketsueki> It works just fine under openjdk/icedtea 7
#1262 [07:39] <amphiboly> err had to force an unrcommended upgrade
#1263 [07:39] <CaelThunderwing> i 've only begun to do Some server wor,
#1264 [07:39] <CaelThunderwing> whats the problem Mist
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#1266 [07:40] <Mist> Well the problem is, I wanna play minecraft with my brother, but he can't connect
#1267 [07:40] <Mist> We tried hamachi and stuff, it didn't work
#1268 [07:40] <CaelThunderwing> he w/in your home network or overthe net?
#1269 [07:40] <Mist> he just gets: Connect: connection refused
#1270 [07:40] <Mist> he's in the same house
#1271 [07:41] <CaelThunderwing> Firewall on the Server PC likely,
#1272 [07:41] <Ketsueki> Mist: then you don't need hamachi or anything else. You need the IP that your server has internally
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#1274 [07:41] <Mist> where can I find that? :S
#1275 [07:41] <CaelThunderwing> are you also filling out an IP in the server.properties? if so clear the ip listed.
#1276 [07:41] <Ketsueki> If you went to a 'what's my ip' page on the internet and he tried connecting to that, it'd fail (a lot of times; sometimes it'd hit the modem and bounce back)
#1277 [07:41] <Mist> just whansmyip.org?
#1278 [07:42] <Ketsueki> Mist: that is exactly where -not- to go
#1279 [07:42] <Mist> whatsmyip.org?*
#1280 [07:42] <Mist> lol
#1281 [07:42] <CaelThunderwing> No your external IP will not work in your internal network.
#1282 [07:42] <Ketsueki> You need your internal IP; I just told you the interwebs can't help
#1283 [07:42] <Mist> ok
#1284 [07:42] <CaelThunderwing> you need your Router Assigned IP
#1285 [07:42] <Ketsueki> He's internal, so he needs the local one.
#1286 [07:42] <REDstoneUSER> I want to use a joystick to play Minecraft, is that possible?
#1287 [07:43] <Mist> hmmm I'll try and find that
#1288 [07:43] <Ketsueki> The easiest way, for me, is to run/program find a 'cmd' prompt and do 'ipconfig' it's the IP/Internet address
#1289 [07:43] <CaelThunderwing> Yes REDstoneUSER you need a Mapper, like joy2key or Xpadder
#1290 [07:43] <Mist> ok ill check it :)
#1291 [07:43] <REDstoneUSER> Ok, thx!
#1292 [07:43] <CaelThunderwing> xpadder is pay for software but i think joy2key is free
#1293 [07:43] <Ketsueki> now a very late bed time x.x
#1294 [07:43] <Ketsueki> ... 5am
#1295 [07:44] <CaelThunderwing> its 7:44am here
#1296 [07:44] <CaelThunderwing> i got stuck playing SoM for so long :3
#1297 [07:44] <Mist> ipconfig doesnt remain open
#1298 [07:44] <Mist> the cmd closes itself somehow
#1299 [07:44] <CaelThunderwing> ok
#1300 [07:44] <CaelThunderwing> press Windows key +R
#1301 [07:44] <Ketsueki> Mist: you run 'cmd' alone. THEN in the cmd window you run ipconfig
#1302 [07:44] <Mist> ooooh
#1303 [07:44] <CaelThunderwing> then type in cmd
#1304 [07:44] <Mist> ok lol
#1305 [07:44] <CaelThunderwing> Then ipconfig.
#1306 [07:45] <CaelThunderwing> the ip's going to be along the lines of 192.168.1.XXX (XXX being te spefic that pc's Assigned)
#1307 [07:45] <Mist> ok I'll check :)
#1308 [07:45] <Ketsueki> It could be anything that starts with 192.168.x.x or 172.16(up to 32).x.x or 10.x.x.x
#1309 [07:45] <CaelThunderwing> unless you got a really beefy PC i'd use a seperate PC to be the server,
#1310 [07:46] <Ketsueki> Hum... up to 31
#1311 [07:46] <Ketsueki> CaelThunderwing: quad core + 4GB of ram should be sufficient; dual core if they're fast and you're not doing optifine multi.
#1312 [07:46] <Ketsueki> CaelThunderwing: quad core + 4GB of ram should be sufficient; dual core if they're fast and you're not doing optifine multi.
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#1314 [07:47] <Mist> ok i have "link-local ipv6 adress", and "standardgateway", both having almost the same ip
#1315 [07:47] <CaelThunderwing> hmm w/ 4GB ram i'd stay away from using more than 2 or 3 server plugins if you dont go vanilla,
#1316 [07:47] <Mist> want me to type them?
#1317 [07:47] <Ketsueki> Mist: nope, of no use to us
#1318 [07:47] <Mist> ok
#1319 [07:47] <Ketsueki> Mist: it'll look LIKE the gateway but that's not it.
#1320 [07:47] <Mist> so best is to check both?
#1321 [07:47] <Ketsueki> It is -not- the gateway. It's /close/ to the gateway's number.
#1322 [07:48] <Mist> ok
#1323 [07:48] <Ketsueki> there should be an 'ipv4' address... or amybe some other term. I need to sleeep
#1324 [07:49] <CaelThunderwing> start--> My Network Places-> view network Connections-> "Local area Network (or your lan)" and scroll down on left hand side if your using XP
#1325 [07:49] <CaelThunderwing> if your using 7/vista,
#1326 [07:49] <Mist> i have vista
#1327 [07:49] <Mist> with the ipv4 adress it said, can't resolve hostname
#1328 [07:50] <Ketsueki> There isn't a hostname, just the IPv4 address
#1329 [07:50] <Ketsueki> You only want the /numbers/
#1330 [07:50] <CaelThunderwing> cant exactly tell ya where in Network & sharing center
#1331 [07:50] <WarTheCar> What's the email to contact Minecraft staff about payments!? PM ME IT private message me it!!
#1332 [07:50] <Mist> i know, but it's the error minecraft gave me when i tried to connect him
#1333 [07:50] <CaelThunderwing> but you want to find your network adapter right ckllick and see Status
#1334 [07:50] <Mist> sorry, didnt mention
#1335 [07:50] <Ketsueki> WarTheCar: there is not one. Use the support page
#1336 [07:50] <Ketsueki> Mist: you need the number from the /server/
#1337 [07:51] <Ketsueki> Your computer's number is of no help for this.
#1338 [07:51] <CaelThunderwing> and look for details ( i think i may myself have a virus because opening that panel for me locks up0
#1339 [07:51] <Ketsueki> CaelThunderwing: you have a virus; it's called windows
#1340 [07:51] <Ketsueki> It's a metavirus
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#1342 [07:53] <CaelThunderwing> ohh ha ha ha, Ketsueki too many of my windows games dont run well in WINE, otherwise i'd go Linux,
#1343 [07:53] <Ketsueki> See, they too were infected.
#1344 [07:54] <Mist> nope, the ipv4 adress didnt do it :(
#1345 [07:54] <Mist> Can'r reach server
#1346 [07:54] <Mist> can't*
#1347 [07:54] <Ketsueki> Mist: cmd -> ping IPV4Address
#1348 [07:54] <Mist> do i have to forward a port?
#1349 [07:55] <Ketsueki> Both computers are in the same house, yes? The address is 'close' like a neighbor to, the 'gateway' IP yes?
#1350 [07:55] <Mist> yup
#1351 [07:56] <Ketsueki> Then no, it's a firewall issue
#1352 [07:56] <Mist> ah ok
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#1354 [07:56] <Ketsueki> Fix the firewall on the server.
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#1356 [07:57] <Mist> hmm, u mean allowing minecraft through the firewall?
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#1358 [08:03] * CaelThunderwing has gone to Sleep ZZ.zz.zz
#1358 [08:04] <blob> DOES ANYONE KNOW IF YOU CAN PLAY MINECRAFT ON INTEGRATED GRAPHICS?
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#1361 [08:05] <blob> can you play minecraft on integrated graphics?
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#1363 [08:05] <blob> is anyone actually watching this
#1364 [08:05] <blob> FUCKING HELL
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#1369 [08:11] <Mist> The server responded with an invalid server key?
#1370 [08:12] <Mist> :/
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#1373 [08:17] <Morrolan> o/
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#1376 [08:24] <Infamous97> Hello
#1377 [08:24] <Infamous97> Guys i need help
#1378 [08:24] <Infamous97> whenever I run my minecraft
#1379 [08:24] <Infamous97> nothing happens
#1380 [08:24] <Infamous97> I thought u cold help me
#1381 [08:24] <Infamous97> could*
#1382 [08:26] <Morrolan> Please get the .jar launcher from www.minecraft.net/download.jsp and try that one. If that doesn't work we'll look further.
#1383 [08:26] <Morrolan> It's the one listed under "Linux/Other"
#1384 [08:26] <Morrolan> (You'll have to select "show all platforms" first)
#1385 [08:27] <Morrolan> Or don't do it, up to you.
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#1387 [08:38] <Jolijn> Hello!
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#1389 [08:39] <mr_trousers> No pictures when i'm on the site
#1390 [08:39] <Jolijn> I was here like 2 days ago, and some guy said downloading something would solve my problem
#1391 [08:39] <Jolijn> from acer, it was called...
#1392 [08:39] <Jolijn> VGA Driver ATI VGA Catalyst Driver for MS Windows
#1393 [08:39] <mr_trousers> I try but it did'nt work
#1394 [08:40] <Jolijn> well, I downloaded it, but it didnt work (Its only about your screen)
#1395 [08:40] <Jolijn> The problem is that my minecraft shuts itself down
#1396 [08:40] <Jolijn> and they said "update your videodriver by downloading this"
#1397 [08:40] <Jolijn> but I think my videodrivers arent updated
#1398 [08:40] <Jolijn> how can I update them?
#1399 [08:41] <Jolijn> It was @greyvulpine and @voxelhead btw
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#1406 [09:11] <gretchen> where are the server downloads?
#1407 [09:12] <gretchen> did everyone fall asleep on their keyboards?
#1408 [09:13] <gretchen> hvor er serveren downloads
#1409 [09:14] <gretchen> ¿dónde están los dowloads servidor
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#1411 [09:15] <thenetherman> What do I do about Permissions, Essentials, WorldEdit, WorldGuard, etc. on 1.0.0 on my server? I have NO control whatsoever.
#1412 [09:16] <gretchen> do you know where I can download the server software?
#1413 [09:17] <gretchen> no one is up or I think everyone is afk...or sok (sleeping on keyboard)
#1414 [09:18] <thenetherman> LOL
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#1416 [09:19] <gretchen> lol
#1417 [09:19] <thenetherman> I use a rented server that gets the server software and sets it up for me but they do notohing about managing the site. That is up to me (plugins, etc.).
#1418 [09:19] <thenetherman> nothing
#1419 [09:20] <thenetherman> Looks like no help here. Have a good day, Gretchen.
#1420 [09:20] <gretchen> oh, can you download the server software on the site still, cant seem to find it anymore
#1421 [09:20] <gretchen> you too thenetherman
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#1424 [09:27] <syn> hi, i'm not able to log in on minecraft.net, can somebody help me?
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#1426 [09:31] <WarTheCar> I need to contact notch through emails
#1427 [09:31] <WarTheCar> Any ideas?
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#1429 [09:33] <MrJP> Hello
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#1431 [09:36] <pleasehelp> I reg with minecraft but when i log in it doesn't reg my user name password
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#1435 [09:41] <kaaskoekie> hi
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#1439 [09:47] <zippity> hello i was just wondering if someone could help me out about an error with minecraft i keep getting
#1440 [09:47] <Goof245> What's the error?
#1441 [09:47] <zippity> a sound error
#1442 [09:48] <Goof245> Broken sounds?
#1443 [09:48] <zippity> a text document comes into the folder everytime my minecraft crashes
#1444 [09:48] <zippity> with this on it
#1445 [09:48] <zippity> EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000084c1, pid=1748, tid=3084
#1446 [09:49] <Goof245> The bin folder or the .minecraft folder?
#1447 [09:49] <zippity> the folder which the minecraft.exe is in
#1448 [09:49] <TheNytangel> zippity, go to pastebin.com and paste the full error, click submit, and give us the link
#1449 [09:50] <zippity> ok
#1450 [09:50] <zippity> give me a minute
#1451 [09:50] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheCar
#1452 [09:50] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheBar
#1453 [09:51] <Goof245> zippity: This may or may not be useful, http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110426150643AAIVhCO
#1454 [09:51] <Goof245> Or this, http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/610383-exception-access-violation-0xc0000005/
#1455 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> Goof245 - There's more than one exception code 5 error
#1456 [09:51] <Goof245> 'may' be of use
#1457 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> In order to diagnose it properly, we need to see the full error
#1458 [09:52] <Goof245> It's better
#1459 [09:52] <Goof245> Yeah
#1460 [09:52] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, already told him and he's doing it
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#1463 [09:53] <rumpler> the username and password are not working. we changed the password and requested the username be sent to our email but still doesn't work when typed in correctly.
#1464 [09:54] <zippity> ok here is link http://pastebin.com/zAt7rjE6
#1465 [09:54] <TheNytangel> Minecraft.net hates me too. Doesn't let me login
#1466 [09:56] <rumpler> Sorry, not too techy on this end. is that link for me to click on? Computer is not that old and we purchased the latest version last night. what is my next step?
#1467 [09:56] <zippity> no rumpler its not
#1468 [09:56] <rumpler> so what do I do?
#1469 [09:57] <Goof245> rumpler: Keep trying every few minutes unti
#1470 [09:57] <GreyVulpine> zippity - Give us a dxdiag, we need to take a look at your system
#1471 [09:57] <Goof245> Maybe it might let you login, seems to work for me when that happens :/
#1472 [09:57] <GreyVulpine> ??> zippity win/dxdiag
#1473 [09:57] <VoxelHead> zippity: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1474 [09:57] <VoxelHead> zippity: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
#1475 [09:58] <zippity> win?
#1476 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> windows key. Has the windows logo on it. Between your ctrl and alt keys
#1477 [09:58] <zippity> oh
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#1481 [09:59] <sprocket> hi
#1482 [09:59] <rumpler> Do I keep trying even though it says oops wrong user name or password. Thany are not wrong. How do we get in?
#1483 [09:59] <zippity> rumpler check caps lock
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#1485 [10:00] <sprocket> i have bought minecraft and it says i have 1.0.0 and i see weird green things everywhere. help please?
#1486 [10:00] <TheNytangel> Those are trees
#1487 [10:00] <zippity> lol
#1488 [10:01] <sprocket> not
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#1490 [10:02] <rumpler> Thanks but caps and number lock have been checked. We typed it correctly again and again before changing the password and also checked the username.
#1491 [10:02] <sprocket> hi you dont believe this the problem is fixed?
#1492 [10:02] <sprocket> i mean. not?
#1493 [10:03] <zippity> ok GreyVulpine and VoxelHead here is system info http://pastebin.com/vQBNuN7G
#1494 [10:04] <Picknick> I NEED HELP!!!
#1495 [10:04] <sprocket> weird green things that look like x or +
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#1497 [10:04] <rumpler> Not fixed. system won't recognize our username password combination. Is it possible we were hacked?
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#1499 [10:05] <sprocket> HELP please
#1500 [10:06] <Picknick> PLEASE
#1501 [10:06] <Picknick> HELP
#1502 [10:06] <Picknick> :D
#1503 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> zippity - Try downloading the video driver for your system here:
#1504 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> zippity - http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19 -- use the ATI driver for the x300
#1505 [10:06] <Picknick> HELP...
#1506 [10:07] <Picknick> anyone
#1507 [10:07] <sprocket> what for help
#1508 [10:07] <sprocket> picknick what for help
#1509 [10:07] <GreyVulpine> Help with?
#1510 [10:07] <Picknick> this problem... w8
#1511 [10:07] <sprocket> ok
#1512 [10:07] <Picknick> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1mvyggp6Q4
#1513 [10:07] <rumpler> Going to try again. So far minecraft is an expensive waste of time. SIGH>
#1514 [10:08] <sprocket> i dont see the problem
#1515 [10:08] <sprocket> srry
#1516 [10:08] <Picknick> ???
#1517 [10:08] <sprocket> picknick
#1518 [10:08] <sprocket> oh the white
#1519 [10:08] <sprocket> screen
#1520 [10:08] <Picknick> what???
#1521 [10:08] <Picknick> yeah
#1522 [10:09] <sprocket> oh
#1523 [10:09] <sprocket> Ehm
#1524 [10:09] <sprocket> ehm
#1525 [10:09] <sprocket> ehm
#1526 [10:09] <Picknick> and the wierd lower left title screen background
#1527 [10:09] <Picknick> and... yeah
#1528 [10:10] <sprocket> picknick try to redownload
#1529 [10:10] <Picknick> help... GreyVulpine
#1530 [10:10] <Picknick> I did.. like 20 times
#1531 [10:10] <Picknick> re installed java
#1532 [10:10] <sprocket> oh
#1533 [10:10] <sprocket> yeah i have a problem too
#1534 [10:10] <Picknick> really
#1535 [10:11] <Picknick> what happened
#1536 [10:12] <Picknick> ...
#1537 [10:12] <Picknick> help??
#1538 [10:12] <Picknick> anybody else???
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#1541 [10:13] <clarjon1> ??> Picknick telepathy
#1542 [10:13] <VoxelHead> Picknick: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#1543 [10:13] <sprocket> srry green weird things
#1544 [10:15] <Picknick> help please
#1545 [10:15] <Picknick> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1mvyggp6Q4
#1546 [10:15] <Picknick> I even made a vid
#1547 [10:15] <Picknick> since the 1.8 update my minecraft is broke
#1548 [10:15] <Picknick> 1.7.3 still works for me...
#1549 [10:15] <clarjon1> hey GreyVulpine
#1550 [10:15] <zippity> so voxel and grey if this dell website dont work what do i do
#1551 [10:16] <Picknick> but cant play 1.8 to 1.0
#1552 [10:16] <Picknick> yeah
#1553 [10:16] <clarjon1> zippity: voxel is a bot
#1554 [10:16] <Picknick> so... none?
#1555 [10:16] <clarjon1> Picknick: Be patient
#1556 [10:16] <Picknick> no help at all
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#1558 [10:16] <Picknick> oh, sorry :D
#1559 [10:17] <clarjon1> Picknick: This room is full of VOLUNTEERS. Noone here is paid to help. If we know how to help, we will.
#1560 [10:17] <clarjon1> just hold ya horses.
#1561 [10:17] <clarjon1> TheNytangel`: Have you seen an issue like what is in Picknick's vid before?
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#1563 [10:18] <clarjon1> heh
#1564 [10:18] <clarjon1> wb TheNytangel_
#1565 [10:18] <Picknick> sorry clarjon1
#1566 [10:20] <zippity> grey which one do i download
#1567 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> R118968.EXE (25MB)
#1568 [10:21] <clarjon1> GreyVulpine: Any idea what could be causing the effect in Picknick's vid? :s
#1569 [10:21] <zippity> this one grey ATI Hyper Memory PCI-Express X16 (DVI/VGA/TV out) Radeon X300 SE, v.8.23-060209a1-030546C, A03
#1570 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> clarjon1 - java or video drivers, it's always those two
#1571 [10:21] <clarjon1> Picknick: Well done making a video of the issue, by the way.
#1572 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> zippity - Yes
#1573 [10:21] <zippity> ok
#1574 [10:21] <clarjon1> Picknick: Ah. Have you made sure your video drivers are up to date?
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#1576 [10:21] <zippity> you very quick at typing and reading grey
#1577 [10:22] <zippity> what do i do once downloaded
#1578 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> zippity - Install it
#1579 [10:22] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, wait. mollstam = tobias? :o
#1580 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1581 [10:23] <westmi> all my glowstone got turned to smothstone
#1582 [10:24] <westmi> after the upgrade to 1.0 from 1,8
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#1584 [10:25] <dave123123> Hello. I've got some troublr
#1585 [10:25] <dave123123> Trouble*
#1586 [10:26] <dave123123> My minecraft password has reset for no renson.
#1587 [10:26] <dave123123> Reason*
#1588 [10:26] <dave123123> Any help?
#1589 [10:26] <dave123123> Any help?
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#1592 [10:32] <zippity> thanks grey
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#1597 [10:38] <zippity> so grey what does that do
#1598 [10:38] <zoe> i paid for minecraft over 24 hours ago and im still not able to play
#1599 [10:39] <zoe> why is that?
#1600 [10:40] <clarjon1> zoe: well, what payment method did ya use
#1601 [10:41] <clarjon1> zoe: And, have you tried calling your bank or credit card provider to see if the payment went through yet?
#1602 [10:42] <zoe> i used mastercard. and yesterday it was still pending
#1603 [10:43] <clarjon1> Well
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#1605 [10:43] <clarjon1> If it's still pending, then you have to wait for Mastercard to send the money to Mojang
#1606 [10:45] <westmi> I would ditch a credit card that takes that long
#1607 [10:46] <westmi> or use an alternate method of payment
#1608 [10:46] <westmi> i dont use credit cards anyways
#1609 [10:47] <westmi> my poor glowstone.....all gone *sigh*
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#1611 [10:47] <westmi> what happend to my glowstone?
#1612 [10:48] <zippity> ok grey should my game work now
#1613 [10:48] <westmi> why did it turn to smoothstone?
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#1615 [10:50] <DJSyther> I'm on my server and when I join I can open anything but after I open that one thing it wont let me open anything else.
#1616 [10:51] <DJSyther> I'm using a non-bukkit server.
#1617 [10:51] <clarjon1> ... what
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#1619 [10:52] <westmi> bug!
#1620 [10:52] <JJ> I keep getting this error report even after re-downloading minecraft and the game closes itself before giving me this error report. # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x6916d1ce, pid=2232, tid=1392 # # JRE version: 6.0_29-b11 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.4-b02 mix
#1621 [10:52] <westmi> like my glowstone!
#1622 [10:53] <clarjon1> ??> JJ pastebin
#1623 [10:53] <VoxelHead> JJ: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1625 [10:53] <zippity> JJ my comp does that aswell
#1626 [10:54] <rappingelmo> help my minecraft crashes
#1627 [10:54] <rappingelmo> :(
#1628 [10:54] <JJ> http://pastebin.com/nWD75D8J
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#1630 [10:54] <rappingelmo> yes that is the message i get
#1631 [10:55] <rappingelmo> :)
#1632 [10:55] <superalex22> is there a way to buy minecraft with a visa card
#1633 [10:55] <DJSyther> http://pastebin.com/v96DuJTw
#1634 [10:55] <rappingelmo> yes i already said thats what i get
#1635 [10:55] <DJSyther> superalex22: PayPal.
#1636 [10:56] <rappingelmo> does anyone know how to fix this!?!?
#1637 [10:56] <superalex22> i already tried but it says it was declined and it took $4 away
#1638 [10:56] <zippity> ??> superman
#1639 [10:57] <zippity> ??> Voxel
#1640 [10:57] <zippity> lolz
#1641 [10:57] <zippity> voxel is a bot
#1642 [10:57] <rappingelmo> i want to play minecraft
#1643 [10:57] <zippity> voxel say supercali
#1644 [10:57] <rappingelmo> tbut i cant
#1645 [10:57] <rappingelmo> supercali?
#1646 [10:57] <zippity> rappingelmo i would try turning all sound off then trying it its to do with the sound
#1647 [10:58] <superalex22> ??
#1648 [10:58] <rappingelmo> i have sound off
#1649 [10:58] <superalex22> another way ??
#1650 [10:58] <JJ> this is my problem not just some spam by the way-http://pastebin.com/nWD75D8J
#1651 [10:58] <rappingelmo> and tiny render fast graphics no smoothlighting small open GL
#1652 [10:59] <rappingelmo> yah thats the exact same thing that happens to me
#1653 [10:59] <zippity> minecraft uses 1gb of ram to play so when it overtakes 1gb it crashes so you need to stop it from using more than 1gb of ram now there is something called sfplayer1's soundfix which only lets minecraft use 250mb but i cant find it
#1654 [10:59] <DJSyther> http://pastebin.com/v96DuJTw Help?
#1655 [10:59] <rappingelmo> ok thnx
#1656 [11:00] <zippity> if you can find the soundfix then please share the link but i cant find it
#1657 [11:00] <zippity> but the bug i think cant be fixed because of something i mean you could try talking to notch himself but he never replies
#1658 [11:02] <rappingelmo> no i cant find it
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#1660 [11:03] <DJSyther> Can someone help me with my server?
#1661 [11:03] <WugBot> DJSyther: (ww) Help you with what?
#1662 [11:04] <DJSyther> I can only open 1 door/chest/etc. in my server and I can't open another one after that?
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#1664 [11:13] <JJ> just gonna post this again incase anyone new joined who can help- http://pastebin.com/nWD75D8J
#1665 [11:15] <GreyVulpine> JJ - update your ati video drivers
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#1667 [11:21] <JJ> GrayVulpine- How?
#1668 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> Give us a dxdiag
#1669 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> ??> JJ win/dxdiag
#1670 [11:21] <VoxelHead> JJ: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1671 [11:21] <VoxelHead> JJ: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
#1672 [11:24] * Morrolan scratches head
#1672 [11:24] <Morrolan> Clouds travel north, and the sun ought to rise in the east since 1.9 prex, right?
#1673 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> That.. sounds right
#1674 [11:24] <Morrolan> Yea, I thought so too.
#1675 [11:25] <Morrolan> Until I looked at the clouds during a sunrise.
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#1677 [11:25] <Morrolan> If I were to trust these two "facts" then east would have to be vis-�-vis of north.
#1678 [11:25] <immad> my payment isnt going through
#1679 [11:25] <Morrolan> The wiki doesn't really help either, it just says what I thought to be the truth. :/
#1680 [11:26] <Morrolan> immad: When did you buy the game?
#1681 [11:26] <immad> i tried twice yesterday i called my credit card company and they said something is wrrong with the sie
#1682 [11:26] <Morrolan> Is it a prepaid credit card?
#1683 [11:26] <immad> no
#1684 [11:27] <JJ> There you go- http://pastebin.com/G7v0fMPC
#1685 [11:27] <immad> why
#1686 [11:27] <Morrolan> In this case I am not too sure what the issue might be, but it has to be something with your card. If the site were bugged we'd get much more people in here complainig about this I believe. :/
#1687 [11:27] <Morrolan> complaining*
#1688 [11:27] <Morrolan> Could you try to pay through PayPal using your credit card, immad?
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#1690 [11:28] <wilma> Minecraft not asking me to update to 1.9?
#1691 [11:28] <Morrolan> wilma: 1.9 was skipped, but it should ask you to update to 1.0.
#1692 [11:28] <Morrolan> If it doesn't then go to options -> force update in the launcher.
#1693 [11:29] <wilma> It's not asking me to update. I have 1.8.1 and whenever I open Minecraft no update is announced. I'm on a Mac by the way.
#1694 [11:29] <Morrolan> In this case go to options in the launcher, and select force update, then log in, wilma.
#1695 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> JJ - You're running a dell dimension 5150 desktop with a gig of RAM, and a RADEON X600 256MB HyperMemory video card. The driver you want to download and install are located here: http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19
#1696 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> JJ - Use the one labeled R119714.EXE (25MB), for your x600 card
#1697 [11:30] <wilma> options in the launcher? I clicked on Minecraft, no "options" as far as I can see.
#1698 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> In your launcher, do you see a news feed, along with a couple boxes to log in with?
#1699 [11:31] <wilma> Yes.
#1700 [11:31] <wilma> OH!
#1701 [11:31] <wilma> I see it!
#1702 [11:31] <Morrolan> In this case there should be a button titled "options" above login. :)
#1703 [11:31] <wilma> Thanks so much! xD
#1704 [11:31] <Morrolan> Ah, very well.
#1705 [11:32] <wilma> Thanks so much, it's updating now :D
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#1707 [11:33] <wikkit> does mojang have a support number to call?
#1708 [11:34] <Morrolan> No, they do not.
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#1710 [11:34] <Guest11236> email?
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#1712 [11:34] <Morrolan> support@mojang.com
#1713 [11:34] <Morrolan> Though they'll just redirect you to this channel if it's a technical question...
#1714 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> support@mojang.com consistantly has tens of thousands of emails in backlog
#1715 [11:35] <Morrolan> And yes, what Grey said as well.
#1716 [11:40] <immad> it still didnt work through paypal
#1717 [11:40] <Morrolan> Do you get any sort of error?
#1718 [11:41] <Morrolan> Also, did you ever do any international purchases with that card, which went through successfully?
#1719 [11:41] <immad> i did get an error
#1720 [11:42] <immad> any other help
#1721 [11:42] <immad> please
#1722 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell us what the error told you?
#1723 [11:43] <immad> it said :"Your purchase was for some reason denied to be processed. (Reference: 088afbdd-1d4d-463e-829f-237cf84ece96)"
#1724 [11:44] <immad> any help?
#1725 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> That's going to be something you need to take up with paypal or your credit card
#1726 [11:45] <immad> i did this and they said itt was a problem with the site
#1727 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> 4 million other people have paid for minecraft successfully.
#1728 [11:45] <JJ> need to restart computer for it can use them will do that then try minecraft again then let you know what happens
#1729 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> It's not a problem with the site
#1730 [11:46] <immad> any other help would a prepaid help at all
#1731 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> It would not
#1732 [11:47] <immad> any other help you can possibly provide me with
#1733 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> Other than telling you to try another card, we don't do payment support here.
#1734 [11:47] <immad> where can i get payment support
#1735 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> From paypal/moneybookers or the bank you use to pay for
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#1737 [11:48] <FailMore> hi
#1738 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> Mojang doesn't handle payment directly, they use paypal or moneybookers to process payment
#1739 [11:48] <Morrolan> immad: As I said, did you ever do any international transactions with that credit card?
#1740 [11:48] <FailMore> i have problem with minecraft
#1741 [11:48] <immad> if i use a prepaid gift card or gift card could that help me
#1742 [11:48] <FailMore> when i try to connect online its says downloading torrent and just downloadin no end
#1743 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry, torrent?
#1744 [11:49] <immad> no i never used this card for international transactions
#1745 [11:49] <FailMore> my friends see im online but is see in my screen downdloading terrain
#1746 [11:49] <Morrolan> immad: It does sound as if your card might be locked for international purchases, I suggest you ask your credit card provider whether that is the case.
#1747 [11:49] <FailMore> downloading
#1748 [11:49] <Morrolan> In case it is, tell them to unlock it.
#1749 [11:50] <FailMore> someone can help?
#1750 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> FailMore - Try doing a force update through the launcher?
#1751 [11:50] <immad> i dont really feel like doing that for reasons but can a prepaid card help me
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#1753 [11:50] <Morrolan> Prepaid cards have such a limitation by default. (most of them)
#1754 [11:50] <FailMore> it doesnt work
#1755 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> immad - Most prepaid cards have international transactions blocked, for anti-fraud reasons
#1756 [11:51] <Morrolan> FailMore: Are you able to connect to any other servers?
#1757 [11:51] <FailMore> no
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#1759 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Mojang, is based in Sweden, hence, most transactions are overseas or international.
#1760 [11:51] <Morrolan> FailMore: Just to be sure - could you try minecraft.lethal-zone.eu ?
#1761 [11:51] <immad> is there an international prepaid ard i could use?
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#1763 [11:51] <FailMore> smae error
#1764 [11:52] <FailMore> same*
#1765 [11:52] <Morrolan> Ok, in this case it seems that something is blocking MInecraft on your PC, FailMore. Are you using any security software?
#1766 [11:52] <immad> does having a mac make my problem any worse
#1767 [11:53] <FailMore> im using microsoft security essential
#1768 [11:53] <Morrolan> Nope, immad, that won't affect this issue.
#1769 [11:53] <immad> any other help you can give because this really frustrating
#1770 [11:53] <FailMore> but my firewall is off
#1771 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> immad - Go yell at your credit card, or use a different card
#1772 [11:54] <immad> any oother options
#1773 [11:54] <Morrolan> Nothing we can do, really.
#1774 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> immad - Have a friend/buddy/family member buy you a gift code?
#1775 [11:54] <immad> hankyounfor everything
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#1777 [11:54] <immad> i mean thankyou for verything
#1778 [11:55] <FailMore> my firewall is off
#1779 [11:55] <zippity> JJ i did the thing Grey told me to do works my game hsant crashed once a bit laggy but still works
#1780 [11:56] <FailMore> someone can help me?
#1781 [11:57] <JJ> It didn't work for me got this error report- http://pastebin.com/pf8XRDtD
#1782 [11:58] <Morrolan> FailMore: I'm a bit clueless what might be causing this issue then. Have you ever been able to play online?
#1783 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> JJ - try with these instructions: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
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#1788 [12:11] <JJ> It appears to be working thank you so much will come back if anymore problems and thank you again
#1789 [12:13] * AussieMaggy4510 [AussieMaggy4510@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1790 [12:13] <AussieMaggy4510> Why doesn't start Minecraft?
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#1793 [12:15] <AussieMaggy4510> WHY DOESN'T START MINECRAFT?!
#1794 [12:15] <mib_tlfivx> hey help me i need to download mc patcher give me a link
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#1796 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-100update-1113-mcpatcher-hd-fix-222/
#1797 [12:16] <AussieMaggy4510> hello?
#1798 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> Hi
#1799 [12:17] <AussieMaggy4510> hi
#1800 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1801 [12:18] <AussieMaggy4510> Can you answer my question?
#1802 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps with better grammar, and a clearer description of what is actually wrong with your minecraft, I could form a hypothesis.
#1803 [12:19] <AussieMaggy4510> Grammar: I'm german.
#1804 [12:19] <AussieMaggy4510> Information: What are Video Card Drivers?
#1805 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> It's the piece of software that allows you to actually see what is on your computer monitor. It helps the computer output picutre
#1806 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> picture* even
#1807 [12:20] <AussieMaggy4510> where can i update it
#1808 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> It depends. What operating system, and what video card do you have?
#1809 [12:21] <AussieMaggy4510> i have windows XP
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#1811 [12:22] <rappingelmo> ok my minecraft crashes
#1812 [12:22] <rappingelmo> :(
#1813 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> AussieMaggy4510 - Alright. Could you go to your start menu, go to the Run command. There, type in: dxdiag
#1814 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> When you get the dxdiag window up, Aussie.. bah
#1815 [12:22] * GreyVulpine sighs
#1815 [12:22] <rappingelmo> after about less than 1 minute it crashes
#1816 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> rappingelmo - Do you get any error reports? Any files named hs_err_pid?
#1817 [12:23] <rappingelmo> YES! :)
#1818 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> Great. Could you please copy the contents of the error, go to http://www.pastebin.com, paste it there, submit it, then give us the address to it?
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#1820 [12:23] <rappingelmo> sure
#1821 [12:23] <AussieMaggy4510> My internet crashed
#1822 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> AussieMaggy4510 - Alright. Could you go to your start menu, go to the Run command. There, type in: dxdiag
#1823 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> At the dxdiag window, press "save all information", save it on your desktop
#1824 [12:24] <AussieMaggy4510> ok
#1825 [12:25] <rappingelmo> http://pastebin.com/TjzcS71q
#1826 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> AussieMaggy4510 - Now go to your desktop, open up the document. Copy everything inside. Go to http://www.pastebin.com, paste it there. Submit it, then give us the address
#1827 [12:25] <rappingelmo> and i actually have XP
#1828 [12:25] <rappingelmo> not 2000
#1829 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> rappingelmo - Looks like a problem with your ATI video drivers. Do you know how to update them/
#1830 [12:25] <rappingelmo> no....:(
#1831 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Could you follow the instructions I just gave AussieMaggy4510?
#1832 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> go to your start menu, go to the Run command. There, type in: dxdiag
#1833 [12:26] <rappingelmo> i have an ASUS Extreme AX300
#1834 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> At the dxdiag window, press "save all information", save it on your desktop
#1835 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> go to your desktop, open up the document. Copy everything inside. Go to http://www.pastebin.com, paste it there. Submit it, then give us the address
#1836 [12:26] <rappingelmo> k one sec
#1837 [12:27] <AussieMaggy4510> yes
#1838 [12:28] <AussieMaggy4510> the address: http://pastebin.com/YQ62MGa7
#1839 [12:28] <AussieMaggy4510> ok?
#1840 [12:29] <rappingelmo> wat?
#1841 [12:30] <AussieMaggy4510> i meant GreyVulpine
#1842 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> AussieMaggy4510 - Looks like you're already running the latest drivers for your Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML video card, as seen by accessing dell's site here: http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19
#1843 [12:30] <rappingelmo> GreyVulpine:http://pastebin.com/btZb4h1k
#1844 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> The latest drivers are 6.14.10.4693, which you're already running, in your dxdiag
#1845 [12:31] <rappingelmo> hey grey i posted mine
#1846 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> I see that, give me a minute
#1847 [12:31] <rappingelmo> k thnx
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#1849 [12:32] <Mousey> hi
#1850 [12:32] <Mousey> i run an smp server, and it appears things killed in the nether don't drop experience orbs anymore?
#1851 [12:32] <sdousley> Anyone know why my Minecraft may just lock up sometimes wehn trying to open it?
#1852 [12:32] <Mousey> this doesn't seem to be on the buglist
#1853 [12:32] <sdousley> the javaw.exe process takes just about every bit of CPU it can
#1854 [12:33] <Mousey> sdousley: might be your JVM
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#1857 [12:33] <sdousley> Mousey: afaik, I'm on the latest JVM
#1858 [12:33] <Mousey> oh, windows.
#1859 [12:33] <sdousley> yeh
#1860 [12:33] * Mousey can't help, doesn't know
#1860 [12:33] <sdousley> hehe
#1861 [12:33] <rappingelmo> how u do that mousey
#1862 [12:33] <Iaccidentally> ./me
#1863 [12:33] <rappingelmo> i gtg
#1864 [12:33] * Iaccidentally the game
#1864 [12:33] <Mousey> the whole game?!
#1865 [12:33] <Iaccidentally> all of it
#1866 [12:33] * Iaccidentally the whole thing
#1866 [12:33] <Mousey> what an awesome nick you have, sir
#1867 [12:34] <Iaccidentally> its comedy gold, i tell you
#1868 [12:34] <Mousey> i feel smarter just knowing you
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#1870 [12:34] <Iaccidentally> lol sometimes I rub off on people.
#1871 [12:34] <Mousey> that's dirty
#1872 [12:34] <Iaccidentally> ;)
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#1874 [12:37] <AussieMaggy4510> oh there's something other
#1875 [12:38] <AussieMaggy4510> there's "you need an accelerated OpenGL mode"
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#1877 [12:38] <Boot> hi
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#1879 [12:39] <sdousley> hi Boot
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#1881 [12:39] <Boot> i have the problem that i cant login to my account. i changed the password 5 times but its still not working. can anyone help me with this problem ?
#1882 [12:39] <the555FALLEN> yep
#1883 [12:39] <the555FALLEN> same problem any reason?
#1884 [12:39] <sdousley> Boot: I assume you're getting to the login screen ok? It's just not accepting the details?
#1885 [12:39] <the555FALLEN> yup
#1886 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> AussieMaggy4510 - Try it with these instructions: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#1887 [12:40] <the555FALLEN> i can login to the game just not on the web site
#1888 [12:40] <sdousley> hehe yeh
#1889 [12:40] <sdousley> me too
#1890 [12:40] <Avagdu> Hi Jovet
#1891 [12:40] <sdousley> looks like there may be a web login issue
#1892 [12:40] <Avagdu> I figured out what my problem from last night was
#1893 [12:40] <sdousley> yeh, I get a 500 internal server error logging in
#1894 [12:40] <Avagdu> My system date and time somehow got screwed up and I was back in Jan 2002
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#1896 [12:42] <Jovet> howdy
#1897 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> hola
#1898 [12:42] <Jovet> Avagdu: yeah that's someting I should think to ask more often ;)
#1899 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Tis one of the first things you should check when somebody gets "can't connect to minecraft.net" in the launcher
#1900 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> /ctcp name time is such an easy command
#1901 [12:44] <Jovet> ....which of course I have completely forgotten about
#1902 [12:45] <Jovet> well I'm glad you figured it out Avagdu
#1903 [12:46] <Mousey> ok, the no-experience-in-nether is bukkit related
#1904 [12:47] <_Effect> Funny. I went to regenerate the map on my server but it flooded me with errors instead. Second attempt worked.
#1905 [12:50] <AussieMaggy4510> i come again
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#1910 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> !topic
#1911 [12:56] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: topic [ Rules: http://goo.gl/bmDxr | Bug tracker: http://goo.gl/GZWrJ | We are not affiliated with Mojang and cannot help with account issues. | Minecraft 1.0.1 has been released. ] ... changed [ GreyVulpine | Thu Nov 24 09:22:42 MST 2011 ] ... undo [ yes ]
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#1914 [12:57] <AussieMaggy4510> GreyVulpine?
#1915 [12:58] <username> Ok i have a question
#1916 [12:58] <username> Actually 2
#1917 [12:58] <AussieMaggy4510> Do you know the german meaning of .bat ?
#1918 [12:58] <username> No
#1919 [12:58] <Jovet> German meaning of .bat?
#1920 [12:58] <_Effect> Weee. Running a server and my minecraft on my computerxD
#1921 [12:58] <_Effect> I think he's referring to the german equivalent Jovet
#1922 [12:59] <Jovet> There isn't one. .bat is the same on all languages.
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#1924 [12:59] <Jovet> to my knowledge
#1925 [12:59] <pumpkin> Scott: are you very busy at the moment
#1926 [12:59] <AussieMaggy4510> do you know a .bat-file?
#1927 [13:00] * Jovet understands .bat files.
#1927 [13:00] <AussieMaggy4510> yes do you know .bat files?
#1928 [13:01] <Jovet> yes
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#1930 [13:01] <AussieMaggy4510> what?
#1931 [13:01] <mib_wqlu2e> hello
#1932 [13:01] <Jovet> I better, been using them for 25+ years. lol
#1933 [13:01] <username> When i click server.properties it keeps saying you need to either search through installed programs or search on the internet IT'S REALY ANOYING!!
#1934 [13:01] <AussieMaggy4510> can you say me one?
#1935 [13:02] <mib_wqlu2e> for some reason java changed now i cant play minecraft
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#1938 [13:02] <Jovet> username: on the list of installed programs, choose "Notepad". Check the box that says "always open files of this type with this program" or whatever it says.
#1939 [13:03] <AussieMaggy4510> Jovet?
#1940 [13:03] <Jovet> AussieMaggy4510: what do you need a .bat file to do?
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#1942 [13:03] <AussieMaggy4510> to run minecraft
#1943 [13:03] <fenster> how do i run the game after downloading it the shortcut does nothing and in the in browser i get a blank white bar
#1944 [13:03] <Jovet> mib_wqlu2e: uninstalled Java and reinstalled?
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#1946 [13:04] <AussieMaggy4510> Jovet: To run minecraft.
#1947 [13:05] <pumpkin_pub> hey there! anyone free to help out ?
#1948 [13:05] <Jovet> AussieMaggy4510: does the .exe launcher not work for you?
#1949 [13:06] <AussieMaggy4510> i got a message of GreyVulpine and he/she said i need a .bat file
#1950 [13:06] <AussieMaggy4510> and no
#1951 [13:07] <Jovet> AussieMaggy4510: where do you have the .exe launcher saved on your computer?
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#1953 [13:07] <AussieMaggy4510> on my desktop
#1954 [13:08] <Jovet> AussieMaggy4510: that's good. right-click your bare desktop and go to "New" then "Text Document"
#1955 [13:08] <Jovet> whatever it is in German
#1956 [13:09] <AussieMaggy4510> ok
#1957 [13:09] <Jovet> AussieMaggy4510: got that?
#1958 [13:10] <username> Theres nothing on the notepad that says "always open file" or anything like that
#1959 [13:10] <Jovet> username: that's okay, ignore that
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#1963 [13:12] <username> So now what?
#1964 [13:12] <Jovet> username: it opened iwth Notepad right?
#1965 [13:12] <username> Yep
#1966 [13:13] <Jovet> username: well that's all you asked about hah
#1967 [13:13] <username> -_-
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#1969 [13:13] <amunak> Hello, is there some online skin renderer (like http://flowdev.co.uk/skin-view/render.php?user=Amunak ) where I can render the "head" part of the skin only?
#1970 [13:13] <angelofgaming> joined a friends server. It takes it over a minute to register what im doing. i can see everything that happens and i get good ping from the server. the only one on the server that is affected is me.
#1971 [13:14] <angelofgaming> for example it takes 1 minute to show what i write or when i break a block
#1972 [13:14] <username> Well i can't get server.properties to open
#1973 [13:14] <Jovet> username: I just asked you "it opened iwth Notepad right?" and you said "yep"
#1974 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> amunak - http://minecraft.novaskin.me/
#1975 [13:14] <sdousley> nooooooooooo
#1976 [13:14] <username> No IT didn't open i ment notepad opened sorry my bad
#1977 [13:15] <Jovet> username: notepad opened but the server.properties file didn't...?
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#1979 [13:15] <username> No
#1980 [13:15] <Jovet> AussieMaggy4510: still there?
#1981 [13:16] <amunak> GreyVulpine: is there a chance if I'll use it in my forum script which can be loaded even 10000 times a day that the author of this site will be upset? :)
#1982 [13:16] <amunak> oh
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#1984 [13:16] <Murry1> How do you find dragons
#1985 [13:16] <Jovet> amphiboly: ask for permission.
#1986 [13:16] <Jovet> Murry1: go to The Ender.
#1987 [13:16] <Murry1> How?
#1988 [13:17] <Jovet> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Ender#Traveling_to_the_End
#1989 [13:18] <Murry1> thanks
#1990 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> amunak - ?
#1991 [13:18] <username> Is there a server.properties program i can just switch to on the internet?
#1992 [13:19] <Murry1> Is there ever going to be planes/cars in minecraft
#1993 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> No, just open it up in a text editor
#1994 [13:19] <Jovet> Murry1: I wouldn't hold your breath. But I'm sure there is or will be a Mod for that.
#1995 [13:19] <Murry1> @username get notepad++ http://goo.gl/FtK9
#1996 [13:20] <Jovet> don't confuse him further. lol
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#1998 [13:21] <Murry1> is there any good minecraft city planning software?
#1999 [13:22] <Jammy> Anyone got any idea's on getting sound working, computer plays music etc fine, ingame volume is at max, have tried forcing update and have tried deleting sound folders in .minecraft but still not able to get any sound
#2000 [13:22] <Jovet> Murry1: I don't think Minecraft is The Sims... lol
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#2002 [13:23] <Murry1> Jammy: goto http://windows7themes.net/minecraft-no-sound-fix-for-windows-7-vista-xp-mac.html
#2003 [13:24] <Jovet> username: when you double-click the server.properties file and it brings up a list of programs, highlight Notepad and click OK.
#2004 [13:24] <amunak> GreyVulpine: oh sorry, I already got what I want: http://res.public-craft.com/skavatar.php?name=BananaBot
#2005 [13:24] * Jovet thinks if you don't know how to edit a text file you shouldn't be messing around with servers, but, that's him.
#2005 [13:25] <Jammy> lol first thing in the suggestions fixed it, hold f3 and press s :)
#2006 [13:26] <Jovet> I need to look that up
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#2008 [13:26] <NotWug> I don't feel like identifying
#2009 [13:27] <Jammy> Never heard of a perform list? :P
#2010 [13:27] <angelofgaming> any tips for fixing super long delays on a server when its tellign me i have good connection?
#2011 [13:30] <NotWug> angelofgaming: you mean actual lag? as in very large network latency?
#2012 [13:30] <angelofgaming> i dont know what it is tbh doesnt seem like normal lag
#2013 [13:31] <angelofgaming> if i write something
#2014 [13:31] <angelofgaming> it takes 1 minute to show up
#2015 [13:31] <NotWug> does it seem like you connect, there is a large delay between doing something and it actually happening (many seconds or minutes)
#2016 [13:31] <angelofgaming> but i see what the others write immediatly
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#2018 [13:31] <NotWug> hmm
#2019 [13:31] <mib_weog97> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 26/11/11 16:26
#2020 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> pastebin.com please
#2021 [13:31] <NotWug> :pastebin > mib_weog97
#2022 [13:31] <WugBot> mib_weog97: (pastebin) Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#2023 [13:32] <angelofgaming> yes notwug there is a very long delay
#2024 [13:32] <NotWug> angelofgaming: well I know exactly what you're talking about but not how to fix it
#2025 [13:32] <NotWug> it used to be a fairly common problem though I havent seen it in a while
#2026 [13:32] <angelofgaming> everything works for 3 other people on the server
#2027 [13:33] <angelofgaming> i get full connection bar when checking
#2028 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> mods?
#2029 [13:33] <NotWug> is it only for that one server or does it happen on any server
#2030 [13:33] <angelofgaming> only one server
#2031 [13:33] <NotWug> it might be something on the server's end then
#2032 [13:33] <angelofgaming> i asked them to restart but it didnt help :/
#2033 [13:34] <NotWug> what server is it?
#2034 [13:34] <angelofgaming> any ideas for what they could try on the serverside then?
#2035 [13:34] <NotWug> angelofgaming: like I said, this used to be a common problem, but nobody is sure what caused it
#2036 [13:34] <angelofgaming> ok
#2037 [13:34] <NotWug> just that it seemed to stop happening around 1.6
#2038 [13:35] <NotWug> you are using the most recent version of minecraft, right?
#2039 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> Could try removing the player.dat file from /worlds/players/
#2040 [13:35] <angelofgaming> yes
#2041 [13:35] <NotWug> is java up to date?
#2042 [13:35] <NotWug> most recent version is 6u29
#2043 [13:35] <AussieMaggy4510> Jovet: Now I'm there
#2044 [13:35] <angelofgaming> checking
#2045 [13:36] <angelofgaming> yes im running the latest java version
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#2047 [13:37] <NotWug> have you tried updating your nic drivers
#2048 [13:37] <angelofgaming> what is that?
#2049 [13:37] <NotWug> that sometimes used to fix this issue iirc
#2050 [13:37] <Nathan2055> OK, I just updated to the latest weekly snapshot.
#2051 [13:38] <NotWug> its the driver for your internet device
#2052 [13:38] <Nathan2055> I played a little bit, then I decided to try classic.
#2053 [13:38] <angelofgaming> ok how do i update that?
#2054 [13:38] <AussieMaggy4510> GreyVulpine? You sent me a message
#2055 [13:38] <AussieMaggy4510> do you know a .bat file?
#2056 [13:39] <Nathan2055> It changed all my settings, I fixed most of them, but the brightness is all weird and I can't see down tunnels as well any more.
#2057 [13:39] <Nathan2055> No matter what I do, I can't fix the brightness. Help!
#2058 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes...?
#2059 [13:40] <AussieMaggy4510> which
#2060 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> I don't understand the question AussieMaggy4510, the instructions were all there in the pastebin link I sent you
#2061 [13:41] <NotWug> angelofgaming: can you open the device manager
#2062 [13:42] <AussieMaggy4510> only say me a .bat file (as an example)
#2063 [13:43] <angelofgaming> yes
#2064 [13:43] <angelofgaming> i have opened it
#2065 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> AussieMaggy4510 - Right. You need to make a new text document in the same place where you downloaded the minecraft.jar
#2066 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> AussieMaggy4510 - Did you do that?
#2067 [13:43] <NotWug> in the network adapter section
#2068 [13:43] <AussieMaggy4510> yes
#2069 [13:43] <NotWug> angelofgaming: can you list everything there
#2070 [13:44] * TheNytangel` [TheNytangel`@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2071 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> AussieMaggy4510 - Alrgiht, did you put in the two lines, java -xms256....
#2072 [13:44] <AussieMaggy4510> yes
#2073 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> AussieMaggy4510 - Did you go up to File -> save as?
#2074 [13:44] <mtjaxter> what is the point of this channel/
#2075 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> #minecrafthelp
#2076 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Should be self-explainatory
#2077 [13:44] <NotWug> mtjaxter: we fix minecraft
#2078 [13:45] <AussieMaggy4510> whats "save as" in german? "speichern unter"?
#2079 [13:45] <NotWug> AussieMaggy4510: use ctrl+s
#2080 [13:45] <Jammy> no >.>
#2081 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Ctrl+s is just save
#2082 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> You want Save As
#2083 [13:45] <angelofgaming> 2 bluetooth device things, hamachi, atheros wifi adapter and realtek pcie gbe familly controller
#2084 [13:45] <Jammy> that will just save it as a .txt :P
#2085 [13:45] <Jammy> actually..
#2086 [13:46] <Jammy> if he's not saved it you might get lucky :P
#2087 [13:46] <NotWug> angelofgaming: oh, you do have an atheros
#2088 [13:46] <NotWug> I believe that was the nic that typically had the issues
#2089 [13:46] <AussieMaggy4510> ehh what must i do know???????
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#2091 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Nope, the way the instructions worked, the file is already created as a txt
#2092 [13:46] <NotWug> can you select it and check if there are any updates available
#2093 [13:46] <angelofgaming> ok
#2094 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> AussieMaggy4510 - file -> save as
#2095 [13:46] <Nathan2055> Is there anyone working on my problem?
#2096 [13:46] <angelofgaming> said it already had the latest
#2097 [13:47] <AussieMaggy4510> text document -> save as - ok?
#2098 [13:47] <NotWug> GreyVulpine: you dont happen to have an atheros nic driver update link, do you
#2099 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> NotWug - Nope
#2100 [13:47] <Jammy> angelofgaming: I take it you are connecting wirelessly?
#2101 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> AussieMaggy4510 - File name: Launcher.bat -- file type: All files
#2102 [13:48] <angelofgaming> wireless connection to a router in our house
#2103 [13:48] <Jammy> yeah
#2104 [13:48] <NotWug> GreyVulpine: protip number 6 (though I recognize that you might know this already and are generally immune to my protips)
#2105 [13:48] <Jammy> it a laptop?
#2106 [13:48] <AussieMaggy4510> where do i find Launcher.bat
#2107 [13:48] <angelofgaming> yes its a laptop
#2108 [13:48] <Nathan2055> Is there anyone working on my problem?
#2109 [13:48] <NotWug> you can force a file extension by putting the file name in quotes
#2110 [13:48] <NotWug> "launcher.bat"
#2111 [13:48] <Nathan2055> Hello?
#2112 [13:49] <NotWug> Nathan2055: are you talking about bukkit
#2113 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> Ah, haven't had to do that at all, since I have file extensions on, is first thing I do on a new windows install
#2114 [13:49] <Nathan2055> Me?
#2115 [13:49] <Kealper> NotWug: can you really?
#2116 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> Thanks for the tip
#2117 [13:49] <Nathan2055> No, NotWug
#2118 [13:49] <Jammy> angelofgaming: Grab the latest wireless driver from the manufacturers website for that wireless card, windows often won't tell you about hardware updates and even if it does may give you a driver thats not very good on the machine
#2119 [13:49] <NotWug> Kealper: yes you can
#2120 [13:49] <Nathan2055> OK, I just updated to the latest weekly snapshot.
#2121 [13:49] <NotWug> Nathan2055: the minecraft weekly snapshot then?
#2122 [13:50] <Nathan2055> I played a little bit, then I decided to try classic.
#2123 [13:50] <Nathan2055> Yes.
#2124 [13:50] <angelofgaming> ok thanks :)
#2125 [13:50] <Kealper> NotWug: even with hide file exetensions? i have to try this lol.... learn something new every day :o
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#2127 [13:50] <Nathan2055> It changed all my settings, I fixed most of them, but the brightness is all weird and I can't see down tunnels as well any more.
#2128 [13:50] <NotWug> Kealper: as far as I know, yes
#2129 [13:50] <AussieMaggy4510> ok ok ok
#2130 [13:50] <AussieMaggy4510> I'm confused
#2131 [13:50] <NotWug> Nathan2055: that might be something the snapshot did
#2132 [13:50] <Nathan2055> No matter what I do, I can't fix the brightness. Help!
#2133 [13:51] <Nathan2055> Hmm, your IRC channel states 1.0.1 is out.
#2134 [13:51] <NotWug> have you checked to see if it works properly in the current release
#2135 [13:51] <NotWug> Nathan2055: thats "the weekly snapshot"
#2136 [13:51] <NotWug> i think
#2137 [13:51] <Nathan2055> Yes, it works right in 1.0.0
#2138 [13:51] <Kealper> NotWug: does no >:|
#2139 [13:51] <NotWug> then its a bug with the snapshot
#2140 [13:51] <Kealper> not*
#2141 [13:51] <zkxs> 1.0.1 is a server only update
#2142 [13:51] <AussieMaggy4510> hello?
#2143 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> zkxs - yes
#2144 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> AussieMaggy4510 - What are you confused about?
#2145 [13:51] <Nathan2055> Should I force update?
#2146 [13:52] <NotWug> Nathan2055: yes
#2147 [13:52] <Kealper> NotWug: wait, does too
#2148 [13:52] <NotWug> though it may be intended behavior
#2149 [13:52] <NotWug> I just protip'd kealper
#2150 [13:52] <AussieMaggy4510> GreyVulpine: About the .bat file
#2151 [13:52] * NotWug feels all fuzzy inside
#2151 [13:52] <Kealper> NotWug: works in the file save dialog, doesn't work in windows shell rename, shell won't let you put " in a file name
#2152 [13:52] <NotWug> yeah, shell doesnt do that
#2153 [13:52] <Nathan2055> That will return me to 1.0 without any damage to my files/saves?
#2154 [13:52] <NotWug> it might be notepad specific too
#2155 [13:53] <AussieMaggy4510> where do I find launcher.bat ?
#2156 [13:53] <NotWug> though I have a feeling it's a feature of the save file dialog and any program that uses it will benefit
#2157 [13:53] <Kealper> NotWug: dunno, notepad doesn't do much at all, it's literally just all vanilla win32 api calls
#2158 [13:53] <NotWug> AussieMaggy4510: its wherever you saved it
#2159 [13:53] <NotWug> Kealper: lol true dat
#2160 [13:53] <AussieMaggy4510> whats the launcher.bat ?
#2161 [13:53] <NotWug> its a giant edit field with some file handling chucked in
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#2163 [13:54] <Kealper> basically
#2164 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> AussieMaggy4510 - That's what you name the file.
#2165 [13:54] <Nathan2055> NotWug: That will return me to 1.0 without any damage to my files/saves?
#2166 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> AussieMaggy4510 - you can name it bob.bat if you wanted to.
#2167 [13:54] <Kealper> anywho, afk for setting up Christmas stuff
#2168 [13:54] <NotWug> Nathan2055: yep
#2169 [13:54] <Nathan2055> Great!
#2170 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> AussieMaggy4510 - Or even thiswilllaunchminecraftforyou.bat
#2171 [13:54] <Nathan2055> Is there anything I should do about reporting the bug?
#2172 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> or omgwillthisfixmyminecraftforme.bat
#2173 [13:54] <AussieMaggy4510> is it in the file ".minecraft" in %appdata% ?
#2174 [13:54] * NotWug snrks
#2174 [13:55] <Nathan2055> Yeah, I'm that kind of a player.
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#2176 [13:55] <Nathan2055> The one that files bug reports for every bug.
#2177 [13:55] * Nathan2055 laughs
#2177 [13:55] <Nathan2055> Bye all!
#2178 [13:56] <NotWug> ☺action this is a test☺
#2179 [13:56] <NotWug> nope
#2180 [13:56] <NotWug> stupid mibbit
#2181 [13:56] <AussieMaggy4510> ok ok ok
#2182 [13:56] <AussieMaggy4510> SOmebody speaks german?
#2183 [13:57] * mib_8tgf2u [mib_8tgf2u@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2184 [13:57] <NotWug> AussieMaggy4510: Ich konnte ein gernam Übersetzer
#2185 [13:57] <AussieMaggy4510> ok
#2186 [13:57] <AussieMaggy4510> can you explain it me in german with a translator
#2187 [13:58] <NotWug> GreyVulpine: what step were you at
#2188 [13:58] * TheNytangel` fires up mibbit
#2188 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> pastebin, saving .bat file
#2189 [13:58] * TheBadShepperd [TheBadShepperd@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2190 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#2191 [13:59] <NotWug> mmk
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#2194 [13:59] <NotWug> AussieMaggy4510: you have the pastebin GreyVulpine gave you?
#2195 [13:59] <mib_nyt> i Deutsch Speck jetzt
#2196 [13:59] <lilybet> i keep getting am error when i try to play minecraft classic multiplayer
#2197 [13:59] <NotWug> NotWug: is this thing on
#2198 [14:00] <AussieMaggy4510> yes
#2199 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - What is the full and complete error?
#2200 [14:00] <NotWug> NotWug: is this thing on
#2201 [14:00] <NotWug> damnit mibbit
#2202 [14:00] <mib_nyt> in
#2203 [14:00] * GreyVulpine kicks NotWug
#2203 [14:01] <NotWug> NotWug: is this thing on
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#2205 [14:01] <lilybet> an error ocured while loading the applet please contact support resolve this issue fatal error ocured (4): unable to get input stream fo lwjgl_applet.jar.pack
#2206 [14:01] <NotWug> mibbit sucks
#2207 [14:02] <NotWug> mibbit still sucks
#2208 [14:02] <lilybet> an error ocured while loading the applet please contact support resolve this issue fatal error ocured (4): unable to get input stream fo lwjgl_applet.jar.pack
#2209 [14:02] <lilybet> thts the error
#2210 [14:02] <NotWug> GreyVulpine: are you getting this in german or english? mibbit doesnt have the courtesy to tell me
#2211 [14:02] <lilybet> english
#2212 [14:03] <NotWug> maybe google translator broke
#2213 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - Try clearing your browser's cache. if that doesn't work, try a different browser
#2214 [14:03] <lilybet> okay thanx
#2215 [14:03] <NotWug> AussieMaggy4510: :/
#2216 [14:03] <mib_nyt> NotWug: Antwort skype>: o
#2217 [14:03] <mib_nyt> Answer skype*
#2218 [14:03] <NotWug> im not using my computer
#2219 [14:03] <NotWug> someone elses skype is logged in -.-
#2220 [14:04] <NotWug> people want me to go get food too
#2221 [14:04] <NotWug> I'll be back in 15 minutes or so. AussieMaggy4510, google translator doesnt seem to be working so hang on a minute
#2222 [14:05] <lilybet> i just did all of that stuff and the error still came up :(
#2223 [14:05] <lilybet> an error ocured while loading the applet please contact support resolve this issue fatal error ocured (4): unable to get input stream fo lwjgl_applet.jar.pack
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#2225 [14:06] <mr_trousers> when will i be able to play minecraft? im going insane. i paid over a day ago
#2226 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - Try uninstalling and reinstalling java from your computer
#2227 [14:06] <lilybet> okay
#2228 [14:07] <mr_trousers> when does the payment usually go through?
#2229 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> mr_trousers - When your credit card or bank decides to transmit the confirmation of payment to Mojang's payment processor.
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#2231 [14:09] <Failmore> hi i need help with my minecraft
#2232 [14:10] <AussieMaggy4510> NotWug
#2233 [14:10] <Failmore> when i try to connect server the server says downlaoding terrain and its never end my friends see im online bou is see downlaoding terrain
#2234 [14:10] <Failmore> but*
#2235 [14:11] <Failmore> someone can help?
#2236 [14:11] <Failmore> someone cna help?
#2237 [14:12] <Failmore> can*
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#2239 [14:14] <LegoBoyLBP> Anyone know of any current isues with logging on? Reset password (successfully twice) still won't let me logon :(
#2240 [14:15] <zkxs> LegoBoyLBP: what do you see when you go to this url? https://login.minecraft.net/?user=minecrafthelp&password=ftw&version=9001
#2241 [14:15] <LegoBoyLBP> The words 'Bad login'
#2242 [14:15] <zkxs> Well, that is what you *should* see.
#2243 [14:16] <zkxs> The fact that you can load that page means you can reach the authentication servers.
#2244 [14:17] <LegoBoyLBP> The message on the Minecraft logon page is 'Opps Unknown user id or password'
#2245 [14:17] <LegoBoyLBP> Reset password twice, still not working :(
#2246 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Apparently, you're not the only one LegoBoyLBP.
#2247 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> We've been getting a few reports of that problem since 1.0.0 rolled out, mojang's been informed, we have no further information
#2248 [14:18] <zkxs> LegoBoyLBP: what happens when you go to https://login.minecraft.net/?user=yourusername&password=yourpassword&version=13 and substitute yourusername and yourpassword for your user and pass?
#2249 [14:18] * GreyVulpine thinks it's a problem with something other than the authentication server for the launcher
#2249 [14:20] <LegoBoyLBP> A very confusing message... a single line with lots of numbers!
#2250 [14:21] <zkxs> LegoBoyLBP: Well, GV is right. It isn't an issue with the auth servers
#2251 [14:21] <LegoBoyLBP> Been using browser version, is it worth trying to downlaod and logon?
#2252 [14:21] <TheNytangel`> GreyVulpine, you missed out on some very poorly drawn socks last night ;)
#2253 [14:22] <zkxs> But the waist was fantastic
#2254 [14:22] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2255 [14:22] <TheNytangel> I drew waste, not waist
#2256 [14:22] <zkxs> Nyt, did you ever get your applets working?
#2257 [14:23] <TheNytangel> No
#2258 [14:23] <zkxs> oddly enough, my ubuntu abhors applets.
#2259 [14:23] <TheNytangel> Did you get your banapplets working?
#2260 [14:23] <zkxs> I think FF may be the culprit though.
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#2262 [14:24] <Crus> OHai all.
#2263 [14:25] <zkxs> O, herro der
#2264 [14:25] <TheNytangel> Der das die die
#2265 [14:25] <LegoBoyLBP> Hey, download works first time... not browser version... thanks for trying to help
#2266 [14:26] <clarjon1> zkxs: It could be the java you have installed.
#2267 [14:26] <zkxs> I tried with both Sun and OpenJDK
#2268 [14:26] <TheNytangel> zkxs, Cod4 time
#2269 [14:26] <clarjon1> zkxs: Do you have openjdk installed?
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#2271 [14:26] <LegoBoyLBP> Java worked fine an hour ago, had some tea and couldn't get back on
#2272 [14:27] <Jovet> UnknownRefreshmentException
#2273 [14:27] <Jovet> they don't drink tea in California.
#2274 [14:27] <Crus> lol I get it. :P
#2275 [14:28] <LegoBoyLBP> lol... see yer later ;)
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#2279 [14:34] <krissda> Hi. I have a litle problem. I do not remember my password and email. I do only know my username. Is it possible to reset my password to an other email?
#2280 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> It is not. Would be too easy to hijack accounts if that were possible
#2281 [14:34] <Crus> lol
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#2283 [14:36] <krissda> I have just payed for the full version on that account and is then not able to play it. What can I do with that?
#2284 [14:36] <clarjon1> krissda: did you pay with paypal?
#2285 [14:36] <Crus> so then you are saying your computer cannot run mc?
#2286 [14:36] <Jovet> you just paid but don't know what email address you used?
#2287 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Try a http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename on all email accounts you normally use, it'll send back an email with MC usernames that are attached to that email
#2288 [14:37] <krissda> No i used mastercard.
#2289 [14:37] <clarjon1> krissda: Search all your emails for the word "minecraft"
#2290 [14:37] <Jovet> or Mojang
#2291 [14:38] <krissda> LOL I do not know the email.
#2292 [14:38] <clarjon1> well
#2293 [14:38] <clarjon1> you need the email to get it back
#2294 [14:38] <krissda> can you tel me the email for my account?
#2295 [14:38] <clarjon1> nope
#2296 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> We cannot
#2297 [14:38] <Jovet> krissda: no
#2298 [14:38] <clarjon1> because we're just a bunch of people who play the game
#2299 [14:38] <clarjon1> we don't work for Mojang :)
#2300 [14:39] <krissda> Is there any way to stop the payment?
#2301 [14:39] <clarjon1> You'd have to talk to Mastercard
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#2303 [14:40] <clarjon1> And know your transaction ID and such
#2304 [14:40] <clarjon1> ( which would be on your bill, or in the email )
#2305 [14:40] <krissda> Okey. Thank you I will se what I can do.
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#2307 [14:42] <Puddles> Hello! I bought the game and after 3 weeks I still did not received my confirmation e-mail and I can't acces Minecraft with the launcher and I keep getting "User not Premium" Please Help!
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#2309 [14:42] <Asad> I have a problem
#2310 [14:42] <Asad> it is that
#2311 [14:42] <Asad> Whenever
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#2313 [14:43] <Asad> it just dosent show anything
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#2315 [14:43] <Asad> click my minecraft.exe 11:42 Cannot send to channel: #minecrafthelp 11:42 Asad it just dosent run 11:42 Cannot send to channel: #minecrafthelp 11:42 +++ VoxelHead has taken owner from *!Mibbit@188.48.35.64 11:42 Asad it just dosent show anything
#2316 [14:43] <Asad> Minecraft.exe dosent run
#2317 [14:43] <Asad> HELP!
#2318 [14:43] <xKoKSii> Hello i need help.. my Minecraft Accounts got Hacked?
#2319 [14:43] <xKoKSii> what can i do?
#2320 [14:43] <Puddles> Anyone?
#2321 [14:43] <Asad> Hacked?
#2322 [14:43] <Asad> Omg
#2323 [14:44] <Crus> greyvulpine
#2324 [14:44] <Asad> this chatroom is not for acoount hack problems..
#2325 [14:44] <xKoKSii> sad bastdards
#2326 [14:44] <Asad> U should refer elsewhere.
#2327 [14:44] <Crus> asad
#2328 [14:44] <xKoKSii> its a help channel
#2329 [14:44] <Crus> it is, actually.
#2330 [14:44] <Asad> Lol
#2331 [14:44] <Asad> k wahtever
#2332 [14:44] <Asad> fix my prob
#2333 [14:44] <Asad> :(
#2334 [14:44] <Crus> this is a place for ANY minecraft problem
#2335 [14:44] <Asad> :(
#2336 [14:44] <Asad> I have a problem
#2337 [14:44] <xKoKSii> us an but file asad
#2338 [14:44] <Crus> so asad
#2339 [14:44] <xKoKSii> bat
#2340 [14:44] <Asad> Minecraft Is too addicting
#2341 [14:44] <Asad> :-/
#2342 [14:44] <Crus> does it give any error messages?
#2343 [14:45] <Asad> Nah
#2344 [14:45] <Asad> no error messages
#2345 [14:45] <Asad> iam updating my java right no to see if it works
#2346 [14:45] <Asad> brb
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#2348 [14:45] <Puddles> "User not Premium" anyone?
#2349 [14:45] <Asad> HOLY FUCK!
#2350 [14:45] * AuBot kicked Asad from #minecrafthelp (Reason: sad :Please keep it civil.)
#2351 [14:45] <xKoKSii> xD
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#2353 [14:45] <Asad> It ran!
#2354 [14:45] <Asad> Yeeeee
#2355 [14:45] <Asad> java updates work!
#2356 [14:45] <Asad> :)
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#2358 [14:46] <Asad> THNX ALL FOR THE HELP
#2359 [14:46] <Asad> CYA
#2360 [14:46] <xKoKSii> anyone now where i can get my account back?
#2361 [14:46] <Induna> I have an account issue.
#2362 [14:46] <Induna> I bought the game, back in July, but when the game updated, I could no longer change my skin or update my client.
#2363 [14:47] <Puddles> I bought the game and after 3 weeks I still did not received my confirmation e-mail and I can't acces Minecraft with the launcher and I keep getting "User not Premium" Please Help!
#2364 [14:47] <Puddles> HELP!
#2365 [14:47] <Puddles> Please!
#2366 [14:47] <Crus> greyvulpine, issues with purchases and everything XD
#2367 [14:47] <sockmister> hi. i have a problem ( my friend have a problem) hes minecraft somehow runs out of memory . can someone please help ^^^?
#2368 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Oi, can't a guy get some peace and quiet every now and then?
#2369 [14:47] <Crus> puddles, I'd help you, but I dunno how to fix
#2370 [14:47] <xKoKSii> Can are u using an Texturepack?
#2371 [14:47] <Crus> lol
#2372 [14:47] <xKoKSii> wtf can :D
#2373 [14:47] <Crus> well, helping 5 people is kinda hard
#2374 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Induna - Are you able to log into minecraft.net at all?
#2375 [14:48] <Induna> I can log in, yes.
#2376 [14:48] <Puddles> me neither
#2377 [14:48] <xKoKSii> are u using an Texturepack sockmister?
#2378 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Induna - Then you can change your skin using the profile page at minecraft.net
#2379 [14:48] <Induna> Nope.
#2380 [14:48] <Crus> lol, grey,
#2381 [14:48] <Induna> It tells me I need to buy the game.
#2382 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Induna - Do you get a message saying you haven't paid for the game?
#2383 [14:48] <Crus> woops, I don;t think I can change my skin too. :P
#2384 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Induna - Did you purchase minecraft from minecraft.net?
#2385 [14:49] <Crus> he did say he bought it from july.
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#2387 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> But from where
#2388 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> (we've had a ton of people pass through here who've gotten scammed by purchasing minecraft from third-party sites)
#2389 [14:50] <Crus> *shrug*
#2390 [14:50] <Crus> Never seen it before.
#2391 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> ebay, allegro.pl, and other sites, masquerading as official resellers
#2392 [14:50] <Induna> I got a recipt.
#2393 [14:50] <Induna> In my email
#2394 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Induna - Did you purchase minecraft from minecraft.net or another site?
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#2396 [14:51] <Induna> minecraft.net
#2397 [14:51] <Crus> lol. you cannot resel minecraft. It's a sure-plan scam method.
#2398 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Crus - People think it's legit, we've had hundreds of people pass through here with the same story, getting minecraft for cheaper elsewhere
#2399 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Induna - Hmm, I can change my skin just fine
#2400 [14:52] <Induna> I know.
#2401 [14:52] <Crus> Oh. If only people woulda known. :(
#2402 [14:52] <Induna> It seems to be just me thats having this problem.
#2403 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft username, Induna?
#2404 [14:54] <Puddles> I bought the game and after 3 weeks I still did not received my confirmation e-mail and I can't acces Minecraft with the launcher and I keep getting "User not Premium" Please Help!
#2405 [14:54] <Puddles> sorry for spam
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#2407 [14:54] <Puddles> but I am really pissed
#2408 [14:54] <Induna> Induna
#2409 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - Call your bank or credit card up, see if they have a history of a transaction for minecraft going to Mojang AB
#2410 [14:54] <stureplanskatten> Does anyone know why i cant find any servers under multiplayer?
#2411 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - If not, the transaction was never completed
#2412 [14:55] <Puddles> I did that
#2413 [14:55] <stureplanskatten> I just bought and install the game, im a total noob :D
#2414 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> stureplanskatten - The list doesn't populate itself, it's there for you to add servers to
#2415 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> stureplanskatten - To find servers, you need to go to one of these websites.
#2416 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> ??> stureplanskatten smp/servers
#2417 [14:55] <VoxelHead> stureplanskatten: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2418 [14:55] <VoxelHead> stureplanskatten: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2419 [14:55] <stureplanskatten> Ah sry
#2420 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - And...?
#2421 [14:55] <stureplanskatten> didnt know that
#2422 [14:55] <Puddles> the transaction was succesful because my moneys are gone
#2423 [14:55] <Crus> you can also google it.
#2424 [14:55] <stureplanskatten> thanks for fast answer :)
#2425 [14:56] <Crus> np. Some are easy to answer, others are hard.
#2426 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - How much did you pay minecraft for?
#2427 [14:56] <Puddles> I've went to the bank and they said that they can't provide me any information
#2428 [14:56] <Crus> thats a bad bank.
#2429 [14:56] <Puddles> the normal price
#2430 [14:56] <Puddles> If I go there a second time, what should I ask them?
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#2432 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - If your bank can't provide you with any details, we don't know what else to tell you. If the bank can't tell you they gave mojang AB money, how do you know if Mojang even got it?
#2433 [14:57] <Puddles> 14.99
#2434 [14:57] <Crus> I'll leave grey to this. I have NO knowledge of bank transactions.
#2435 [14:57] <Puddles> well, my money are not on my card anymore
#2436 [14:57] <Puddles> ...
#2437 [14:57] <Puddles> :(
#2438 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - Then the bank took the money out, but refused to tell you where it went?
#2439 [14:58] <mib_eirutn> hello, i can't log onto minecraft for some reason - it won't accept my username and password - any suggestions?
#2440 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> That's not a sign of a good bank there.
#2441 [14:58] <Puddles> I don't know
#2442 [14:58] <Induna> Any luck?
#2443 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_eirutn - Just keep trying, known issue, you're not the only person
#2444 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> !paid Induna
#2445 [14:58] <Crus> mib, what exactly does it say?
#2446 [14:58] <Puddles> What should I ask them if I go to the Bank a second time?
#2447 [14:58] <Induna> Hm.
#2448 [14:58] <Crus> lolnevermind
#2449 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Induna - You're not registered as a premium, paid for member
#2450 [14:58] <Puddles> the exact question
#2451 [14:58] <mib_eirutn> username and/or password unknown - i've changed password a few times but no go
#2452 [14:58] <Crus> !paid CrusaderDeleters
#2453 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_eirutn - Just keep trying, known issue, you're not the only person
#2454 [14:58] <Crus> (just ta show it works)
#2455 [14:59] <mib_eirutn> ok will do - thanks!
#2456 [14:59] <Induna> I have the recipt
#2457 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> Induna - Send a copy of it to daniel@mojang.com with a description of your problem (not being premium anymore)
#2458 [14:59] <Puddles> I have also seen that a lot of other people have this problem
#2459 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> He should be able to get you straightened out
#2460 [14:59] <Crus> so who
#2461 [14:59] <Puddles> and they also don't know what to do
#2462 [15:00] <Puddles> : (
#2463 [15:00] <Crus> woops.
#2464 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> We see it quite often, when banks reverse payment on the transaction.
#2465 [15:00] <Crus> so, who's dan? Moll stam?
#2466 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> daniel is Daniel kaplan, business director of Mojang
#2467 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/Kappische
#2468 [15:01] <Crus> oh.
#2469 [15:02] <Puddles> what do you mean by reverse payment?
#2470 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - "I would like to know the status of this transaction, done on thisdate, and whether or not this bank reversed payment on it"
#2471 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - Took the money back
#2472 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> Many banks have fraud protection, and since payment for Minecraft is done to Mojang, a company in Sweden, it's usually an international payment
#2473 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> For some banks, this raises a red flag, and some stop payment, to protect their customer's money from traveling overseas
#2474 [15:03] <Puddles> i see
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#2476 [15:04] <Puddles> I really don't know
#2477 [15:04] <Puddles> what to do
#2478 [15:04] <Crus> cool, I'm learning about banks! :D
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#2480 [15:04] <needHelp> hi
#2481 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Mojang's side, giving somebody premium status, is done automatically once they receive word that payment was received. It's almost always a problem on the bank's side
#2482 [15:04] <needHelp> I need help somewhat again....
#2483 [15:04] <Puddles> I see.
#2484 [15:05] <Puddles> hm
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#2486 [15:05] <Induna> !paid Induna23
#2487 [15:05] <Induna> Oh.
#2488 [15:05] <needHelp> fierysk1lled
#2489 [15:05] <Induna> I'm dumb.
#2490 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> Heh, forgot your username?
#2491 [15:05] <needHelp> !paid fierysk1lled
#2492 [15:05] <`Kelby> how does your bot know if we've bought minecraft or not? isn't there millions of ppl with minecraft?
#2493 [15:05] <Crus> lol. It's k, indun
#2494 [15:05] <needHelp> Wow.............
#2495 [15:05] <rymate1234> !paid Chuck Norris
#2496 [15:05] <rymate1234> lol
#2497 [15:05] <`Kelby> lol
#2498 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> `Kelby - Aubot accesses the URL that mojang provides/uses to check premium status
#2499 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> It
#2500 [15:06] <Crus> kelb, it's a litttle script;
#2501 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> It's not a flat file of people with premium status
#2502 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Very simply, this URL here: http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=
#2503 [15:06] <`Kelby> that's cool
#2504 [15:06] <Puddles> I also used that link
#2505 [15:07] <Crus> lol, thenyt was scolding me for placing that here XD
#2506 [15:07] <Puddles> it says false
#2507 [15:07] <rymate1234> !paid your mum
#2508 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Means premium status is not enabled on that username
#2509 [15:07] <Crus> he said that it was only used for emergencies. XD
#2510 [15:07] <Crus> so, user=
#2511 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> More likely, we just don't want people spamming !paid
#2512 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Like... http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=GreyVulpine
#2513 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> !paid greyvulpine
#2514 [15:08] <Crus> I hate hitting enter. XD So, user=Linknzelda123 returns false.
#2515 [15:08] <Puddles> mine too
#2516 [15:08] <TheNytangel`> GreyVulpine, I'm on the second to last level of From Dust and can't beat it
#2517 [15:09] <`Kelby> imma playing in a world with my bf, and wemma having lots of fun, but i got all dstracted cause i followed a pig and triedto kill it but i'm a really sucky hunter so the pig got me really really really far away and i got all lost and stuff, and i had to hide in the middle of a tree al night cause i was scared of the zombies. and i tried to follow the compas all the way home but the
#2518 [15:09] <`Kelby> compass told me to go alls the wrongs way, so i got even more super lost, and then my boyfriend found me the next day and saved me but we found out that our compasses point to compleately different directions, even though we have the same spawn point
#2519 [15:09] <`Kelby> how do i fx that?
#2520 [15:09] <Puddles> the problem with me is that I don't know the exact date when the transaction had place
#2521 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> `Kelby - The compass points to original spawn, not the spawn point after you place a bed or anything
#2522 [15:09] <`Kelby> but we both spawned at pretty much the same place
#2523 [15:10] <`Kelby> and our compasses still point in utterly different directions.
#2524 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> On a server, there's only one main spawn point, that hasn't changed since alpha.
#2525 [15:10] <Puddles> I've went to the bank like 3-4 days later after i bought it
#2526 [15:12] <`Kelby> andwe built our house like... 20 blocks away from our original spawn point, so it shouldn't make a giantly huge difference... but our compasses point in drastically different directions, even when we're standing side each other facing the same way
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#2528 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> `Kelby - Strange.. don't know then. haven't really heard of any current bugs affecting compasses
#2529 [15:12] <`Kelby> is there a way to resept the compass or something?
#2530 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> Craft a new one?
#2531 [15:13] <Jovet> the compass always points at your spawn, if you've used beds and subsequently died, they could be different
#2532 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> That was a bug back when compasses were first implemented, was supposed to be fixed
#2533 [15:13] <TheNytangel`> No, it always points at your natural spawn
#2534 [15:13] <Jovet> yeah I was just going to say, I dunno if the death bug has been fixed or not
#2535 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure it was fixed.
#2536 [15:15] <`Kelby> we spawned close to each other, but we can see our spawnpoint from the window of our house. we built a sheep pen there. which is sad, cause we only have the one sheep cause i dunno how to drag another sheep home... but then we get busy and i forget to feed the sheep and i know it won't die, but still... it seems kinda mean.
#2537 [15:15] <Jovet> Kelby: lure one to follow you by holding wheat
#2538 [15:16] <`Kelby> i can bribe it over? cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool. for pigs and cows too?
#2539 [15:16] <Jovet> I would like to go investigate compass behavior but it'll have to wait 'till I get home
#2540 [15:16] <Jovet> Kelby: most any animal will respond to that except wolves
#2541 [15:16] <Ketsueki> Which you probably already know to give a bone or 7
#2542 [15:17] <Jovet> Kelby: though not every animal will respond immediately, so if one sheep won't follow you right away, try another.
#2543 [15:17] <`Kelby> there doesn't seem to be any wolves in our area. or snow.... but we found pumpkins finally, so if we ever do find snow, we can make some snowmen and we can make our own fake snow. does snow melt?
#2544 [15:18] <Jovet> Kelby: it melts in desert biomes, yeah.
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#2546 [15:19] <Jovet> I don't think any other, though.
#2547 [15:19] <Puddles> I've went to the bank like 3-4 days later after i bought it
#2548 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Wierd. On one computer, I can log into minecraft.net just fine. On another, with the same credentials, I get "Oops, unknown username or password."
#2549 [15:20] <Puddles> and I don't know the exact date
#2550 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> And clearing my browser's cache just fixed it
#2551 [15:20] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2551 [15:21] <Crus> I wish I knew the exact date that I got minecraft. :(
#2552 [15:21] <Jovet> cache not cookies eh?
#2553 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Well, closing browser and reopening it. I have it set to clear everything on close
#2554 [15:21] <Crus> I think it's sometime before august.
#2555 [15:21] <Jovet> If you guys would save important emails ("like 'thanks for your purchase of ______'") you'd have easier lives.
#2556 [15:22] <Crus> lol, my mom prolly still has it.
#2557 [15:22] <Crus> I'll just try to get her email and pw.
#2558 [15:22] <Crus> just skim to pake 1004E12
#2559 [15:22] <Crus> page*
#2560 [15:24] <Jovet> Crus: don't ask your mother for her email account, ask her to look it up for you
#2561 [15:24] <Crus> So then I think minecraft CANNOT run on ram of 2 gigs. my gf's computer (3 gigs) held minecraft until I just couldn't bear the graphical cruddiness.
#2562 [15:24] <`Kelby> i have paid for minecraft. well... my bf paid for it. it was my graduation present. but my user name is my standard internet name. and at school, my students found out that i play minecraft, so they are trying to add me to the school server, but i don't want to ggive them my user name cause i've been using it so much that i'm really googleable. and i don't want to be googled by my
#2563 [15:24] <`Kelby> students. so... can i either change my user name, or get a pirated copy of minecraft? des that count? i know i shouldn't pirate things... but i did actually pay for it, so.... i dunno if it's still as bad.
#2564 [15:24] <Jovet> Crus: minecraft runs just fine on my computer with 2GB of RAM.
#2565 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Gah.
#2566 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> Can't change your username, and I would recommend against pirating minecraft
#2567 [15:25] <Jovet> I would recommend against even talking about pirating minecraft here.
#2568 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> Just have whomever is running the minecraft server, turn off online-mode
#2569 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> Then you can log in with whever username you want
#2570 [15:25] <Jovet> Kelby: in my opinion it's in your best interest to keep your username from your students, simple as that ;)
#2571 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> (can't log in an MC server with a pirated client anyways)
#2572 [15:25] <Crus> lol. then I shall continue my quest. :L I dislike it, because it Continues to crash. Jovet, whats the settings that you set mc at?
#2573 [15:26] <`Kelby> yeah... i don't want to give them my name. my bf said i can use his account so it's a different name, but that's a little weird. thanks tnough
#2574 [15:27] <Jovet> Crus: I can't quote them verbatim off the top of my head since I'm away from home/my computer for the holiday here, but they're mostly default settings.
#2575 [15:27] <Jovet> Crus: I can't quote them verbatim off the top of my head since I'm away from home/my computer for the holiday here, but they're mostly default settings.
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#2577 [15:28] <Jovet> I used to run Simple graphics but with 1.0.0 running better I am getting away from that.
#2578 [15:28] <Crus> ahh k. so then, I guess I'll just try to see what I can do on my own. Starting from optifine, and getting rid of some useless stuff.
#2579 [15:29] <Jovet> I don't use any mods.
#2580 [15:29] <Crus> I know, but I guess that I might even just have to MAKE one.
#2581 [15:30] <Jovet> I might try making some when the mod api comes out
#2582 [15:31] <Jovet> but we will have to see.
#2583 [15:31] <Crus> I cannot wait for the api.
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#2585 [15:31] <Crus> but that will then hit me like a brick. Imagine, you actually have to make the coding a bit less efficient to actually add more.
#2586 [15:32] <Jovet> I'm pretty happy with the game as it is, there is no one thing I think needs drastically improved.
#2587 [15:32] <dilljill> hello?
#2588 [15:32] <Jovet> but it's time for football, so I will have to see 'ya'll later
#2589 [15:32] <Crus> cya.
#2590 [15:33] <Crus> hi.
#2591 [15:33] <Crus> hi.
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#2593 [15:33] <dilljill> Hi, I purchased the premium version of minecraft and the payment went through, but nothing to install
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#2596 [15:34] <Crus> did download the minecraft.exe for your os and run it?
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#2598 [15:34] <dilljill> yes
#2599 [15:35] <Crus> did it run and everything seems fine?
#2600 [15:36] <dilljill> i did run it and then it came to another login screen so I tried to login and it said user not premium
#2601 [15:36] <Crus> whats your ign?
#2602 [15:37] <dilljill> what is ign
#2603 [15:37] <Crus> in-game name. (in this case, mc username)
#2604 [15:37] <dilljill> dilljill123
#2605 [15:37] <Crus> !paid dilljill123
#2606 [15:38] <dilljill> possibly ign - meathead1232
#2607 [15:38] <Crus> check your bank to see if the transaction has gone through. Are you able to view it over the internet?
#2608 [15:38] <Crus> !paid meathead1232
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#2610 [15:38] <dilljill> yes, the transaction went through....neither shows paid?
#2611 [15:39] <Crus> both says not premium.
#2612 [15:39] <squiggy> when will i be able to play minecraft? i paid over 24 hours ago
#2613 [15:39] <Crus> do you have the reciept?
#2614 [15:39] <Crus> squig, ign?
#2615 [15:39] <Induna> Got a new problem
#2616 [15:39] <Crus> wazzat?
#2617 [15:40] <dilljill> would you please try one other ign - envydilljill
#2618 [15:40] <Induna> I changed my pass, and now I can log in on the computer that I used to change it, but not anotherone.
#2619 [15:40] <Crus> dill, just type '!paid <name>'
#2620 [15:40] <dilljill> yes, i do have the receipt
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#2622 [15:41] <dilljill> What did you say?
#2623 [15:41] <Crus> !paid envydilljill
#2624 [15:41] <squiggy> i dont have an ign
#2625 [15:41] <squiggy> i have a minecraft account though
#2626 [15:42] <dilljill> ok those are the only possible ign's but I do have a confirmation email for transaction confirmation
#2627 [15:42] <Crus> you can email the reciept along with username to daniel@mojang.com (I hope that it's correct)
#2628 [15:42] <Crus> squig, I wasnt talking about ign.com, by ign, I meant In-Game name :P
#2629 [15:43] <dilljill> will he be able to resolve this?
#2630 [15:43] <Crus> induna: I'm thinking that you just mispelled it
#2631 [15:43] <squiggy> ohhh
#2632 [15:43] <squiggy> sorry
#2633 [15:43] <squiggy> its coltcolt
#2634 [15:43] <Induna> !paid Induna23
#2635 [15:43] <Induna> Nope, changed it twice.
#2636 [15:43] <Crus> dill: from what I saw recently, he would.
#2637 [15:43] <Crus> !paid coltcolt
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#2639 [15:44] <Crus> squig, so the problem is what again? (sorry, helping 3 people can be confusing. :P)
#2640 [15:44] <Crus> so indun, what
#2641 [15:44] <squiggy> well i paid over 24 hours ago and still it wont let me play hah
#2642 [15:44] <dilljill> so can i just forward the confirmation email and include the username I want to have premium for?
#2643 [15:44] <Crus> 's it say?
#2644 [15:44] <mib_0mz6co> minecraft crashed on me
#2645 [15:44] <Induna> I changed it again, and logged in on that computer.
#2646 [15:45] <Induna> On another computer, I put in the exact same info, and it says its wrong.
#2647 [15:45] <squiggy> i didnt even get an conformation email
#2648 [15:45] <Crus> error reports at pastebin.com, and paste it here, otherwise if it just says "minecraft ran out of memory", then you have low ram.
#2649 [15:45] <Crus> squig: the transaction most likely did not go through.
#2650 [15:46] <mib_0mz6co> can you help me so it doesn't crash again
#2651 [15:46] <Crus> if you are even slightly paranoid (like I prolly am), you could check your bank to see if you did lose the money, but it most likely did.
#2652 [15:46] <Crus> mib: was there an error?
#2653 [15:47] <Crus> indun: just keep trying. MC's login servers are probably to blame, but idk. Just keep on tryin.
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#2656 [15:48] <eukey1337> Hi, I have some help needed
#2657 [15:48] <eukey1337> my server is about to reach 100 members, we would like to do that, the ip is mc.tregmine.info
#2658 [15:48] <eukey1337> I am not trying to spam
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#2660 [15:48] <eukey1337> Im just here for help :P
#2661 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Please don't advertise here
#2662 [15:48] <Crus> I was about to say that.
#2663 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Use #smp for that
#2664 [15:48] <mib_0mz6co> there was an error for mine
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#2666 [15:49] <eukey1337> lolwut, I am banned from the channel, ive never been there
#2667 [15:49] <Crus> can you put that into pastebin.com and paste it here?
#2668 [15:49] <pumpkin> anyone here able to help out currently?
#2669 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Use a different client eukey1337. Mibbit's banned from there
#2670 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> eukey1337 - Try webchat.esper.net if you don't have an IRC client
#2671 [15:49] <mib_0mz6co> what in paste bin
#2672 [15:49] <Crus> paste the error in pastebin.com.
#2673 [15:49] <eukey1337> I use ssh, my server spazzed out tho :P
#2674 [15:49] <mib_0mz6co> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 11/26/11 3:35 PM Minecraft: Minecraft 1.0.0 OS: Windows Vista (x86) version 6.0 Java: 1.6.0_24, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 OpenGL: ATI Radeon HD 4550 version 3.3.10188 Compatibility Profile Context, ATI Technologies Inc. java.lang.
#2675 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_0mz6co - Please paste the entire error at www.pastebin.com, submit it, then give us the URL
#2676 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Do not spam the channel here with the large amount of text from the error log
#2677 [15:50] <Crus> I've told him 3 times already, grey. XD
#2678 [15:50] <pumpkin> i need some help with mc on a mac, any takers?
#2679 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> pumpkin - Could you tell us specifically, what kind of help you need?
#2680 [15:51] <squiggy> but it was pending yesterday?
#2681 [15:51] <Crus> I can not help you pump. :P I have NO knowledge of macs.
#2682 [15:51] <pumpkin> GreyVulpine i get the "failed to launch" error. i am missing the binary files (there is no minecraft folder in my application support folder)
#2683 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> pumpkin - What is the full and complete error?
#2684 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> pumpkin - Also, what version of mac OSX are you on/
#2685 [15:52] <pumpkin> "failed to launch" and then right under that it is the directory to the minecraft.jar file
#2686 [15:52] <pumpkin> 10.5.8
#2687 [15:52] <pumpkin> java is up to date
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#2689 [15:52] <pumpkin> i have this issue on two computers
#2690 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> pumpkin - tell me the exact path you're going to, to see the minecraft folder
#2691 [15:52] <pumpkin> both mac both 10.5.8
#2692 [15:52] <pumpkin> i have it working on win7
#2693 [15:52] <squiggy> i paid for it. it was pending for awhile. whats the average time it takes to confirm payment?
#2694 [15:53] <Murry1> How long does your minecraft payed membership last?
#2695 [15:53] <Boreeas> Murry1: For ever
#2696 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> pumpkin - On macs, there are two library/application support folders. Are you looking in /library/application support/minecraft, or /users/yourname/library/application support/minecraft ?
#2697 [15:53] <Boreeas> Murry1: You only pay once
#2698 [15:53] <pumpkin> Library/Application Support
#2699 [15:53] <pumpkin> the one on the hard drive
#2700 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> pumpkin - Go to the latter, /users/yourname/library/application support/
#2701 [15:53] <pumpkin> nbot users
#2702 [15:53] <pumpkin> ok
#2703 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Once you do, go inside the minecraft folder, delete everything but the saves folder inside, then run minecraft again, pumpkin.
#2704 [15:55] <Murry1> when you buy minecraft does the payment go through straight away?
#2705 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Murry1 - Sometimes, often it can take several hours to several days for the transaction to go through, depending on what you used to pay
#2706 [15:56] <Murry1> what is the fastest?
#2707 [15:56] <squiggy> grey- what if you used a credit card?
#2708 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Paypal's usually the most dependable.
#2709 [15:56] <pumpkin> GreyVulpine you are a lifesaver! "On macs, there are two library/application support folders" this one line just solved my week old issue
#2710 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> pumpkin - Glad we could help
#2711 [15:56] <pumpkin> as am i!
#2712 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> squiggy - Again, depends.
#2713 [15:57] <squiggy> i havent even gotten a conformation email
#2714 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> You may need to call up the credit card you used, check to see if there's a record or history of a transaction going to Mojang AB for minecraft
#2715 [16:01] <`Kelby> i thought i'd try a world in creative mode. i found out i can fly up instead of jumping, but how do i fly down?
#2716 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> hold down ctrl
#2717 [16:01] <`Kelby> like sneeking?
#2718 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2719 [16:01] <Murry1> when is minecraft released on xbla?(xbox live arcade)
#2720 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Murry1 - We have no ETA on that
#2721 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> From minecon, we've heard spring of 2012.
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#2723 [16:02] <Murry1> i found this http://goo.gl/i1GZv
#2724 [16:03] <chadd> Does anyone here have a Hamachi?
#2725 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Again, everything related to minecraft has always been subject to NotchTime™
#2726 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Take those release dates with a grain of salt
#2727 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> We do not support hamachi-run minecraft servers here.
#2728 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> ?? fubar/hamachi
#2729 [16:03] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#2730 [16:03] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#2731 [16:04] <Boreeas> GreyVulpine: What release dates, btw?
#2732 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Notch_Time
#2733 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Guy's asking for release date on Xbla of minecraft
#2734 [16:05] <clarjon1> hah
#2735 [16:06] <clarjon1> Murry1: It'll be out when it's out
#2736 [16:06] <clarjon1> Murry1: And not a moment sooner!!
#2737 [16:06] <Murry1> clarjon1: I've heard that it is out December 31st
#2738 [16:06] <clarjon1> Murry1: It'll be out when it's out
#2739 [16:07] <clarjon1> Don't believe everything you hear
#2740 [16:07] <clarjon1> I'll believe that i'll be out Dec 31 when it's out Dec 31 lol
#2741 [16:07] <clarjon1> *it'll
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#2744 [16:09] <Murry1> clarjon1: look @ this http://goo.gl/yXcC3
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#2746 [16:10] <Mahony0509> MINECRAFT RELEASE DATE CONFIRMED: SPRING 2012
#2747 [16:11] <Kealper> ಠ_ಠ
#2748 [16:11] <Kealper> oh
#2749 [16:11] <Kealper> for xbox
#2750 [16:11] <Kealper> carry on
#2751 [16:11] <Mahony0509> MINECRAFT RELEASE DATE CONFIRMED:SPRING 2012 LOOK AT THIS: http://goo.gl/NcMo5
#2752 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Please don't spam that
#2753 [16:12] <Mahony0509> what
#2754 [16:13] <Mahony0509> its true llok at http://goo.gl/NcMo5
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#2756 [16:13] * GreyVulpine doesn't really care
#2756 [16:13] <PicklishDoorknob> help, when I run Minecraft I get a black screen
#2757 [16:13] <PicklishDoorknob> Java is updated
#2758 [16:13] <Mahony0509> look*
#2759 [16:14] <PicklishDoorknob> help?
#2760 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> PicklishDoorknob - Has it ever worked before?
#2761 [16:14] <Mahony0509> do you have mods
#2762 [16:14] <clarjon1> yeah
#2763 [16:14] <clarjon1> spring
#2764 [16:14] <PicklishDoorknob> yes
#2765 [16:14] <clarjon1> that's like, what
#2766 [16:14] <PicklishDoorknob> no mods
#2767 [16:14] <clarjon1> 3 whole months of guessing?
#2768 [16:14] <PicklishDoorknob> it used to work
#2769 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> PicklishDoorknob - What operating system?
#2770 [16:14] <PicklishDoorknob> windows 7
#2771 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> Have you gone to %appdata% via your search bar, gone into .minecraft and cleared everything but the saves folder?
#2772 [16:15] <PicklishDoorknob> i'll try that brb
#2773 [16:16] <PicklishDoorknob> didn' work
#2774 [16:16] <PicklishDoorknob> didn't
#2775 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> PicklishDoorknob - What happens now?
#2776 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Same thing?
#2777 [16:16] <PicklishDoorknob> still a black screen
#2778 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> PicklishDoorknob - You did clear out everything but the saves folder? Minecraft wasn't running at the time, yes?
#2779 [16:16] <PicklishDoorknob> yes
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#2782 [16:17] <mclegodude> how to start minecraft from command prompt?
#2783 [16:17] <mclegodude> or a .bat file?
#2784 [16:18] <PicklishDoorknob> well i kept my screenshots, should i save and delete them?
#2785 [16:18] <PicklishDoorknob> should i get rid of screenshots?
#2786 [16:18] <mclegodude> no, always keep em.
#2787 [16:18] <mclegodude> could be nice for the inets
#2788 [16:18] <PicklishDoorknob> wait mclegodude
#2789 [16:18] <Mahony0509> picklishdoorknob:do you have 64 or 32bit
#2790 [16:18] <PicklishDoorknob> 32
#2791 [16:18] <Mahony0509> ok
#2792 [16:19] <PicklishDoorknob> GreyVulpine, are you there?
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#2794 [16:19] <Puddles> can anybody help me start mindcraft on my pc
#2795 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> PicklishDoorknob - Have you redownloaded the launcher as well? Does minecraft work in the browser at minecraft.net?
#2796 [16:20] <PicklishDoorknob> yes and no
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#2798 [16:20] <PicklishDoorknob> should i delete everything, redownload, and then put my saves back in?
#2799 [16:21] <Puddles> i get a message on my screen saying i have to install java, but i have installed the latest java on my computer, can anybody help me with this
#2800 [16:21] <PicklishDoorknob> hello?
#2801 [16:21] <PicklishDoorknob> anyone there?
#2802 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> PicklishDoorknob - Yes
#2803 [16:21] <PicklishDoorknob> i should do that?
#2804 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> PicklishDoorknob - Yes
#2805 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - What operating system are you on?
#2806 [16:21] <PicklishDoorknob> kk
#2807 [16:21] <Murry1> PicklishDoorknob:look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-R6wKdUCY
#2808 [16:22] <Puddles> i m running windows 7
#2809 [16:22] <Murry1> that is a common error
#2810 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - Try a complete uninstall of java using your windows control panel, then reinstall it from java.com
#2811 [16:22] <Induna> Got an ingame problem
#2812 [16:22] <Murry1> change your render distance to normal
#2813 [16:22] <Induna> nvm
#2814 [16:23] <Puddles> does it run on 64, could that be the problem?
#2815 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> It does run on 64
#2816 [16:23] <Puddles> 64 bit
#2817 [16:24] <Puddles> ok
#2818 [16:24] <Murry1> PicklishDoorknob: Look at this program http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/39530-black-screen-fix-mac-windows/
#2819 [16:24] <Puddles> ill try re-installing java
#2820 [16:24] <Murry1> NVM my last post
#2821 [16:25] <Murry1> PicklishDoorknob: reinstall 32bit java
#2822 [16:26] <Murry1> PicklishDoorknob:goto http://segmentnext.com/2011/02/18/minecraft-errors-crashes-black-screen-connection-issues-modding-fps-fix-and-lag-fix/
#2823 [16:26] <clarjon1> ....
#2824 [16:26] <clarjon1> Murry1: We don't support mods here :P
#2825 [16:27] <Murry1> clarjon1: Im just helping people
#2826 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Murry1 - There's actually more than a dozen seperate different causes for a blackscreen
#2827 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> There's no one fix for them
#2828 [16:28] <clarjon1> Indeed.
#2829 [16:28] <PicklishDoorknob> it didn't work
#2830 [16:28] <clarjon1> and modding is not supported here, therefore telling users to mod their game -right off the bat- is frowned upon.
#2831 [16:28] <clarjon1> and besides
#2832 [16:29] <Mahony0509> I never told anyone to mod anythng
#2833 [16:29] <clarjon1> Mahony0509: That article about the mod is from February. many months ago. It's out of date!
#2834 [16:29] <clarjon1> the segmentnext.com address does
#2835 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> PicklishDoorknob - Does the in-browser client work at all?
#2836 [16:29] <PicklishDoorknob> no
#2837 [16:29] <Mahony0509> Thats the lag mod
#2838 [16:29] <Mahony0509> thats optifine
#2839 [16:29] <Mahony0509> thats not for black screen
#2840 [16:30] <Mahony0509> theres loads of errors listed
#2841 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> PicklishDoorknob - Could you launch it in the browser anyways, when you get it to the black/white screen, please look in your system tray for a white coffee cup icon. right click on it, then bring up the console. You should see a bunch of text there, copy and paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it
#2842 [16:34] <PicklishDoorknob> no cup
#2843 [16:37] <PicklishDoorknob> hello?
#2844 [16:38] <PicklishDoorknob> GreyVulpine?
#2845 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> you don't get any white coffee cup icon in your system tray, next to your clock?
#2846 [16:40] <PicklishDoorknob> nope
#2847 [16:40] <PicklishDoorknob> no cup
#2848 [16:40] <PicklishDoorknob> are you there? greyvulpine
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#2850 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall and reinstall java then
#2851 [16:42] <PicklishDoorknob> kk
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#2853 [16:42] <mib_ny4hxn> I can't connect
#2854 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> to?
#2855 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft.net? the launcher? a minecraft server?
#2856 [16:43] <mib_ny4hxn> minecraft.net in the launcgher
#2857 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Has it worked before?
#2858 [16:43] <mib_ny4hxn> I havebn't played in a few months but ya
#2859 [16:43] <mib_ny4hxn> befor it has
#2860 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Try redownloading the client from minecraft.net/download
#2861 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Some older launchers will give you that error.
#2862 [16:44] <mib_ny4hxn> YaYYY1
#2863 [16:44] <mib_ny4hxn> Fixed it, Thanks!
#2864 [16:44] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#2864 [16:45] <PicklishDoorknob> restarting, please hold
#2865 [16:49] <Kealper> !check 92.20.64.32
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#2874 [16:55] <mib_ogrlc7> i neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed help
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#2876 [16:56] <mib_ogrlc7> i need help!!!
#2877 [16:57] <PicklishDoorknob> GreyVulpine: It didn't work :(
#2878 [16:57] <PicklishDoorknob> GreyVulpine?
#2879 [16:57] <PicklishDoorknob> me too
#2880 [16:57] <PicklishDoorknob> no ops
#2881 [16:57] <mib_ogrlc7> my minecraft launcher wont work
#2882 [16:57] <mib_ogrlc7> i need help!
#2883 [16:58] <PicklishDoorknob> mine won't work either, i got black screen. I tried redownloading java and minecraft, everything!
#2884 [16:59] <Kealper> i love how people just come in here screaming "I NEED HELP!!!"
#2885 [16:59] <Kealper> don't just sit there whining, state your problem you are getting... if someone knows, they'll tell you how to fix it
#2886 [16:59] <mib_ogrlc7> mine just wont load up
#2887 [17:00] <Kealper> ?? specific
#2888 [17:00] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#2889 [17:00] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#2890 [17:00] <mib_ogrlc7> my minecraft launcher does not load up i dont get even a log in screen or anything
#2891 [17:00] <mib_ogrlc7> i click it and nothing pops up
#2892 [17:00] <Kealper> mib_ogrlc7: do you have Java installed?
#2893 [17:00] <mib_ogrlc7> yes
#2894 [17:00] <PicklishDoorknob> I get a black screen when I start. I tried redownloading Java and Minecraft. But my launcher works, I log in and then a black screen comes.
#2895 [17:00] <mib_ogrlc7> i have java 6 the 26 one
#2896 [17:00] <Kealper> !check 92.20.64.32
#2897 [17:01] <Kealper> PicklishDoorknob: has it worked before?
#2898 [17:01] <Kealper> mib_ogrlc7: same question to you, has it worked before?
#2899 [17:01] <PicklishDoorknob> yes, a lot
#2900 [17:01] <mib_ogrlc7> yes i had the cracked version b4 but i rebooted my whole laptop so i dont have cracked i have full
#2901 [17:02] <PicklishDoorknob> i have the legitimate version, no mods
#2902 [17:02] <Kealper> mib_ogrlc7: have you tried playing it on http://www.minecraft.net/play ?
#2903 [17:02] <PicklishDoorknob> yep, white screen there
#2904 [17:02] <Kealper> PicklishDoorknob: did it stop working after a certain thing happened? anything at all?
#2905 [17:03] <PicklishDoorknob> well I left for Thanksgiving break and now when i came back it doesn' work
#2906 [17:03] <Kealper> also, make sure to look at my messages, if a question is directed at you, my name will be a different color than normal and my message will start with your name
#2907 [17:04] <Kealper> PicklishDoorknob: oh...hmm... but it was working with 1.0 just fine before that?
#2908 [17:04] <PicklishDoorknob> yep. only 4 days ago
#2909 [17:04] <Kealper> that's weird
#2910 [17:04] <Kealper> PicklishDoorknob: ok then, go back to the browser version of the game... when it turns white, leave it there and tell me
#2911 [17:05] <PicklishDoorknob> ok
#2912 [17:05] <Kealper> mib_ogrlc7: did you try what i said up above?
#2913 [17:05] <PicklishDoorknob> ok, it's ready. Itwent to the white screen
#2914 [17:05] <mib_ogrlc7> yes i have tried the webiste but my whole internet explorer shuts down
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#2916 [17:06] <mib_ogrlc7> wait nvm
#2917 [17:06] <mib_ogrlc7> it works now
#2918 [17:06] <Liraxus> Excuse me, but im looking for a specific minecraft cjat
#2919 [17:06] <Liraxus> *chat
#2920 [17:06] <Kealper> mib_ogrlc7 it's working fine in the browser?
#2921 [17:06] <Liraxus> I think Risugami runs it
#2922 [17:06] <Kealper> Liraxus: #risucraft
#2923 [17:06] <mib_ogrlc7> yes
#2924 [17:06] <mib_ogrlc7> but i doesnt work on the launcher
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#2926 [17:07] <PicklishDoorknob> it's ready, Kealper
#2927 [17:07] <Kealper> mib_ogrlc7: sounds like it might be something with your graphics drivers then.... if you are fine playing in the browser then it should be good to go... i could help debug the downloaded one if you want though
#2928 [17:07] <Kealper> PicklishDoorknob: is there a white coffee cup icon in the bottom right of your screen?
#2929 [17:07] <PicklishDoorknob> no
#2930 [17:07] <mib_ogrlc7> yes please
#2931 [17:08] <Kealper> mib_ogrlc7: To run the game like the browser does, try the instructions in this URL: http://pastebin.com/u9K9WD3a
#2932 [17:08] <mib_ogrlc7> ok
#2933 [17:08] <Liraxus> Thanks Kealper
#2934 [17:08] <Liraxus> Thanks Kealper
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#2936 [17:08] <Kealper> PicklishDoorknob: hmm...
#2937 [17:10] <PicklishDoorknob> how do I show a picture, it looks weird now
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#2940 [17:11] <b0xxy> question: im running dual survival worlds one is the old 1.8 terrain and the other one is the 1.0 terrain, i deleted the nether folder from server files, it generated a new nether folder but i can only access the nether from my old survival world and not the 1.0 world anyone know why this is happening?
#2941 [17:11] <PicklishDoorknob> wait i'll mke a video and post it on youtube and show you what is happenng
#2942 [17:11] <PicklishDoorknob> kealper
#2943 [17:11] <Kealper> PicklishDoorknob: ehh, not needed
#2944 [17:11] <PicklishDoorknob> ok
#2945 [17:11] <Kealper> PicklishDoorknob: hold on...
#2946 [17:11] <PicklishDoorknob> ?
#2947 [17:12] <Kealper> PicklishDoorknob: To run the game like the browser does, try the instructions in this URL: http://pastebin.com/u9K9WD3a
#2948 [17:12] <PicklishDoorknob> ok
#2949 [17:12] <Kealper> PicklishDoorknob: although that probably won't fix it, it will provide some insight in to why it is broke
#2950 [17:12] <mib_ogrlc7> i did the instuctions now what?
#2951 [17:12] <mib_ogrlc7> hello?
#2952 [17:12] <Kealper> mib_ogrlc7: did it... work?
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#2954 [17:12] <lulu> Hi I am trying to start mine craft on win XP Pro ServPack3 but it doesn't work. It seem to be a Java problem - do have a solution ?
#2955 [17:13] <mib_ogrlc7> like the launcher?
#2956 [17:13] <Kealper> mib_ogrlc7: yeah... did everything start up fine after you double clicked the .bat file?
#2957 [17:13] <mib_ogrlc7> i double clicked the .bat and it ran something then it just shut off
#2958 [17:13] <iownu1108> my friend deleted all my files from the .minecraft folder and every time i open minecraft i cant download or anything please help
#2959 [17:14] <Kealper> mib_ogrlc7: did you forget to put that "pause" thing on the second line of that .bat file?
#2960 [17:14] <iownu1108> no.
#2961 [17:14] <mib_ogrlc7> oh
#2962 [17:14] <Kealper> iownu1108: what does it tell you? and that last question was not for you
#2963 [17:14] <lulu> the point is, that that mine craft 0.3 worked on an offline, but now i bought the full version in the screen online stays white, the screen offline stays black
#2964 [17:14] <iownu1108> ohit says it isnt downloaded i just fixed had to delete all things to do with minecraft :( but i can re download :)
#2965 [17:15] <PicklishDoorknob> Kealper: It worked! Thanks for your help!
#2966 [17:15] <Kealper> PicklishDoorknob: that's weird... but ok if it works rofl
#2967 [17:15] <PicklishDoorknob> lol
#2968 [17:15] <PicklishDoorknob> k bye
#2969 [17:15] <mib_ogrlc7> it says anykey to continue do i press anykey and then launch my minecraft?
#2970 [17:15] <Kealper> PicklishDoorknob: cya
#2971 [17:16] <clarjon1> Oh wow
#2972 [17:16] <mib_ogrlc7> Kealper: the minecraft launcher is not opening still
#2973 [17:16] <clarjon1> I just found this epic SP map... http://xfcab.com/c o.o
#2974 [17:16] <Kealper> mib_ogrlc7: hmm... that's all it says in that black window? what else does it say?
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#2976 [17:17] <lulu> just black window nothing else
#2977 [17:17] <mib_ogrlc7> well it has a lot of words i cant type out
#2978 [17:17] <Smeecko> Hey, whenever I try and open up MC, browser or download, I get a black screen.
#2979 [17:17] <mib_ogrlc7> its like at net.minecraft.launcherframe and stuff
#2980 [17:18] <Kealper> mib_ogrlc7: where... did you put that .bat file?
#2981 [17:18] <mib_ogrlc7> canot set up certs for trusted cas
#2982 [17:18] <mib_ogrlc7> in the same folder as the text document
#2983 [17:19] <mib_ogrlc7> Smeecko: do you have any mods on your minecraft
#2984 [17:19] <Smeecko> Nope.
#2985 [17:19] <mib_ogrlc7> then i have no idea
#2986 [17:19] <mib_ogrlc7> i've never had that problem
#2987 [17:19] <Kealper> mib_ogrlc7: but did you put it inside your .minecraft folder or somewhere else? because it is not supposed to be in that folder
#2988 [17:19] <Smeecko> My graphics are an Intel G41express chipset so that maybe
#2989 [17:20] <mib_ogrlc7> i put my .bat in the same folder as the .minecraft that i downloaded just now
#2990 [17:20] <Smeecko> Running on a pentium dual core processor. A beastly system : P.
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#2992 [17:21] <Kealper> mib_ogrlc7: it isn't supposed to be there, the minecraft.jar stated in that thing i gave you was not the same as the minecraft.jar in the bin folder
#2993 [17:21] <mib_ogrlc7> so do i put it in the one i just downloaded or the .minecraft folder?
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#2995 [17:22] <Kealper> mib_ogrlc7: put it in the same folder as that minecraft.jar that you just downloaded and run it again
#2996 [17:23] <mib_ogrlc7> i did
#2997 [17:23] <mib_ogrlc7> can i like use a mic to talk to you or something?
#2998 [17:24] <Kealper> unfortunately i'm only on textual chats such asthis
#2999 [17:24] <Kealper> as this*
#3000 [17:24] <mib_ogrlc7> aw
#3001 [17:24] <Kealper> and i'm trying to juggle like three things at once
#3002 [17:24] <mib_ogrlc7> well i guess i bought the game for no reason
#3003 [17:24] <mib_ogrlc7> since the launcher is not gonna work
#3004 [17:24] <Kealper> and now down to 2 things at once
#3005 [17:25] <mib_ogrlc7> well thats a waste of 28$
#3006 [17:25] <Kealper> mib_ogrlc7: why not just play it in the browser?
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#3008 [17:25] <mib_ogrlc7> cause i dont like it its not like full screen or anything
#3009 [17:25] <Kealper> mib_ogrlc7: pressing F11 makes it go fullscreen, and it's literally the same game
#3010 [17:25] <mib_ogrlc7> yes but the screen is small
#3011 [17:25] <Kealper> pressing F11 again brings it back out of fullscreen, btw
#3012 [17:26] <mib_ogrlc7> i know but when i play the screen is small like hell
#3013 [17:26] <Kealper> ....
#3014 [17:26] <Kealper> go in to the browser version... and then press the F11 key
#3015 [17:26] <mib_ogrlc7> ok
#3016 [17:26] <Kealper> goes fullscreen
#3017 [17:26] <mib_ogrlc7> oh i didnt know ok thanks
#3018 [17:27] <Kealper> yay, channel is empty again
#3019 [17:27] * Kealper goes afk
#3019 [17:27] <Smeecko> Noohooo!
#3020 [17:28] <Kealper> :o
#3021 [17:28] <Smeecko> Minecraft still won't play for me either.
#3022 [17:28] <Kealper> ahh, what's going on?
#3023 [17:28] <Kealper> or lack of going-on
#3024 [17:28] <Smeecko> It's the new comp, I think. When I try and go on, I get a black screen
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#3026 [17:29] <Smeecko> In browser, download, neither work.
#3027 [17:29] <Kealper> hmm... first the bases, are the graphics drivers up to date?
#3028 [17:29] <Smeecko> The whattity whats?
#3029 [17:29] <Kealper> i'll take that as a no
#3030 [17:29] <Kealper> ??> Smeecko win/dxdiag
#3031 [17:29] <VoxelHead> Smeecko: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3032 [17:29] <VoxelHead> Smeecko: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
#3033 [17:29] <Kealper> Smeecko: follow what VoxelHead just said
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#3035 [17:30] <Smeecko> Okey dokes, one sec
#3036 [17:32] <rymate1234> !paid Chuck Norris
#3037 [17:32] <DreadLindwyrm> :D
#3038 [17:33] <Smeecko> copied. Now enter it where?
#3039 [17:33] <Smeecko> The link in the searchbar. COpy it here?
#3040 [17:33] <Smeecko> Copy*
#3041 [17:33] <rymate1234> ye
#3042 [17:33] <Smeecko> http://pastebin.com/0SXyN6nm
#3043 [17:33] <Smeecko> There.
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#3046 [17:35] <Suppressant> When buying the game I got a message that said " Credit/Debit card deposits disabled" and when I cloesed it, the page then said success, but I still cant play
#3047 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Second page always says that, even after an error
#3048 [17:36] <Smeecko> Kealper, do they seem up to date?
#3049 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Try paypal, Suppressant, we usually hear better success with it
#3050 [17:36] <Suppressant> I figured as much Vulpine, thank you.
#3051 [17:37] <Kealper> whoops... i totally should have said i was going afk for a bit
#3052 [17:37] <Kealper> sorry
#3053 [17:37] <Smeecko> S'okay.
#3054 [17:37] <Kealper> my dog has not been feeling well today :<
#3055 [17:37] <Smeecko> Awh!
#3056 [17:38] <Crus> I'll take your place, keal
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#3058 [17:38] <Smeecko> Poor doggie :(.
#3059 [17:38] <Kealper> indeed :/
#3060 [17:38] <Kealper> anyways
#3061 [17:39] <Kealper> one sec, i'll get you a link to download
#3062 [17:39] <Smeecko> Thanks
#3063 [17:39] <Crus> oh sweet
#3064 [17:39] <Crus> there's a download for this gcard?
#3065 [17:39] <Kealper> eew, Windows Starter
#3066 [17:40] <Smeecko> Our old- new comp fizzled, so we got our money back and bought this. It seemed okay..
#3067 [17:40] <Crus> my gf has the same exact card.
#3068 [17:40] <Smeecko> The one we had to return played mc.
#3069 [17:40] <Kealper> Smeecko: it probably isn't too bad, it's just Windows Starter has... limitations....
#3070 [17:40] <Kealper> Smeecko: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=18650&keyword=%22Intel%28R%29+G41+Express+Chipset%22&lang=eng
#3071 [17:41] <Smeecko> Yeah. I tried to change the background with a program and had to do a system restore.
#3072 [17:41] <Kealper> download the first one, the one that says it's for Windows 7 32-bit
#3073 [17:41] <Smeecko> ohoho.
#3074 [17:41] <Kealper> Smeecko: and yeah, Starter has a ton of limitations, like you can only run 5 programs at a time, can't change the background and all this other stuff...
#3075 [17:42] <Smeecko> ONLY five? God donut.
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#3077 [17:43] <Lightning> I'd forgotten this channel existed.
#3078 [17:43] <Kealper> :o
#3079 [17:43] <Smeecko> Ok, it just opened some folder. I'll try MC now.
#3080 [17:43] <Lightning> I have been made aware this is where the fine wine and women are distributed.
#3081 [17:43] <Crus> :(
#3082 [17:43] <Kealper> Smeecko: was there a setup.exe in there?
#3083 [17:44] <Smeecko> No.
#3084 [17:44] <Kealper> hmm...
#3085 [17:44] <Smeecko> win7_1883..
#3086 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Lightning - News to me..
#3087 [17:44] <Smeecko> OHOH
#3088 [17:44] <Smeecko> yes
#3089 [17:44] <Smeecko> Just setup, read it differently
#3090 [17:44] <Suppressant> GreyVulpine, I don't have a paypal, know of any other way to get minecraft
#3091 [17:44] <Kealper> Smeecko: extract all the things in there to some random folder on your desktop, and run setup
#3092 [17:44] <Smeecko> Okies.
#3093 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Suppressant - Don't need to have a paypal account, you can use paypal to pay without making an account
#3094 [17:45] <Suppressant> How?
#3095 [17:45] <Lightning> Sell them your soul.
#3096 [17:45] <Suppressant> lol^
#3097 [17:45] <Lightning> Right well, I'll stop bothering you fellows
#3098 [17:45] <Lightning> Right well, I'll stop bothering you fellows
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#3100 [17:46] <Smeecko> Restarting, brb.
#3101 [17:46] <Suppressant> Nevermine GreyVulpine found out how
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#3103 [17:50] <Smeecki> K, just restarted.
#3104 [17:50] <Kealper> Smeecki: interesting... your other one hasn't timed out yet lol
#3105 [17:51] <Kealper> Smeecki: what's the word on the minecraft?
#3106 [17:51] <Suppressant> GreyVulpine- I got the game, thanks so much for the help.
#3107 [17:51] <Kealper> there it goes lol
#3108 [17:51] <Smeecki> Same thing.
#3109 [17:51] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#3109 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Happy craftin'
#3110 [17:52] <Kealper> hmm....
#3111 [17:52] <Smeecki> I REALLy hope this can be fixed. My poor Mum is so stressed at the moment.
#3112 [17:52] <Smeecki> really*, god donut.
#3113 [17:53] <Suppressant> Thanks again.
#3114 [17:53] <Kealper> Smeecki: To run the game like the browser does, try the instructions in this URL: http://pastebin.com/u9K9WD3a
#3115 [17:53] <Kealper> Smeecki: try that, it probably won't fix it, but the least it will do is give me more insight into why it's not working
#3116 [17:54] <Kealper> Smeecki: but yet again... that did work for someone else after i said it probably wouldn't work... so... lol
#3117 [17:54] <Smeecki> Hmm, I'll try it.
#3118 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Seems to happen quite frequently around here.
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#3120 [17:58] <Smeecki> I clicked on the file, and it did nothing.
#3121 [17:58] <mr_sticky> i paid for the game and it keeps saying login and password is wrong
#3122 [17:58] <mr_sticky> i had them send a new one to my e-mail and still wont work
#3123 [17:58] <Smeecki> Something pops up for like a second, and then disappears.
#3124 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> In the browser?
#3125 [17:59] <Kealper> Smeecki: did you forget to add "pause" to the second line in that file? :P
#3126 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> mr_sticky - Try the downloadable client at minecraft.net/download
#3127 [17:59] <Smeecki> Grrr, I did.
#3128 [17:59] <Smeecki> One sec.
#3129 [17:59] <Kealper> Smeecki: i should have made that more apparent in that, almost everyone forgets it lol
#3130 [18:00] <Kealper> so... i'm thinking of recreating a pastebin thing
#3131 [18:00] <Smeecki> Kee, um..
#3132 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Scott did that a while ago
#3133 [18:01] <Kealper> just because i'm slightly bored
#3134 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> We just never got around to using it
#3135 [18:01] <Kealper> oh, did he?
#3136 [18:01] * GreyVulpine nods
#3136 [18:01] <Scott> It's kinda broke.
#3137 [18:01] <Smeecki> "Could not find main class"
#3138 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Something where people could paste to the website, and a bot would automatically give us a URL
#3139 [18:01] <Scott> I quit working on it because no one seemed interesting
#3140 [18:01] <Kealper> Scott: kinda or completely?
#3141 [18:01] <Scott> interested*
#3142 [18:01] <Scott> It works but the content doesn't display correctly
#3143 [18:02] <Kealper> Scott: well if you could get it to poke AuBot with a [not saying protocol here] packet, AuBot could say whatever you wanted, as long as it's less than [length omitted for chat as that might reveal some of the protocol] chars
#3144 [18:03] <Scott> Well, if you want to build a site (using PHP preferably), I can gladly host it.
#3145 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> Smeecki - Did you download minecraft.jar and place it in the same place as the .bat file?
#3146 [18:03] <Scott> Just make it send a message to AuBot to announce etc.
#3147 [18:03] <Kealper> Scott: unfortunately... i don't know php :/
#3148 [18:03] <Scott> Then what would you use?
#3149 [18:03] <Scott> If you say ASP, I will kill you.
#3150 [18:04] <Kealper> probably statically compiled Go as CGI
#3151 [18:04] <Smeecki> GreyVulpine: Yeah
#3152 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Smeecki - minecraft.jar, from minecraft.net/download?
#3153 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Not the one in your .minecraft/bin folder
#3154 [18:04] <Kealper> i've got to go, i'll be back in 10 minutes
#3155 [18:05] <Smeecki> Er,lemme check. So very confused.
#3156 [18:05] <Scott> We could use this: https://github.com/rcaputo/bot-pastebot
#3157 [18:06] <Smeecki> Yes, I put it in downloads.
#3158 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> Smeecki - and did you put the .bat file you made, in downloads as well?
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#3161 [18:08] <huddler> trying to register for minecraft and getting error response internal server error
#3162 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> huddler - Try clearing your browser's cache, and trying again
#3163 [18:08] <huddler> how do i do that?
#3164 [18:08] <WugBot> huddler: (pf) You need to set up port forwarding on your router for people outside of your network to access your Minecraft server. First, find out your public ip address by issuing this command in this channel: ;ip
#3165 [18:08] <WugBot> huddler: (pf) Then, locate the make and model of your router on this site for detailed instructions: http://goo.gl/DsVIL
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#3167 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Gah.
#3168 [18:09] * GreyVulpine kicks Wugbot
#3168 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> huddler - All depends on what browser you use
#3169 [18:09] <Smeecki> Yesh.
#3170 [18:09] <Kealper> some how it's associated that question with port forwarding O.o
#3171 [18:09] <Joephil> Clicked to update and it has gone back to version 1.0 - previously it was 1.8 - why?
#3172 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea
#3173 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Joephil - 1.8.1 was beta, final is 1.0.0
#3174 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> ;af-removestring pf how do i do that?
#3175 [18:10] <WugBot> "how do i do that?" removed from entry for "pf".
#3176 [18:10] <Joephil> so it is the most updated then?
#3177 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Joephil - Yes
#3178 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
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#3180 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Love how "version history" in google brings up minecraft's wiki page
#3181 [18:11] <Joephil> free flying wont go back to land - just gets stuck in the air - why is this?
#3182 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Joephil - You're in creative mode. Either hold down ctrl, or double tap space to stop flying
#3183 [18:11] <JusExcon> Whenever I start up minecraft, it starts up black - running Ubuntu Linux 11.10, with Minecraft just updated
#3184 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> JusExcon - Did you run any mods before?
#3185 [18:12] <Joephil> thankyou so much for your help.
#3186 [18:12] <JusExcon> Yes, but that froze up the game, so I forced the update
#3187 [18:12] <JusExcon> Wait, 1.0.1 has been released, right?
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#3189 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> JusExcon - Just for the server. Client is still at 1.0.0
#3190 [18:13] <JusExcon> ah
#3191 [18:13] <JusExcon> in that case, any idea?
#3192 [18:13] <Smeecki> Anything else?
#3193 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> JusExcon - Head to ~/.minecraft/ -- clear out everything but saves. Redownload the launcher as well, and try again?
#3194 [18:13] <JusExcon> wait
#3195 [18:13] <JusExcon> let me try something, i think I installed modloader without removing META-INF
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#3197 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> That would do it
#3198 [18:14] <JusExcon> nope, still frozen
#3199 [18:16] <JusExcon> no, still frozen
#3200 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> How are you launching minecraft?
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#3202 [18:16] <JusExcon> using the launcher, minecraft.jar
#3203 [18:16] <JusExcon> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#3204 [18:16] <JusExcon> that one
#3205 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Command line? or are you using the GUI?
#3206 [18:17] <JusExcon> GUI
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#3208 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Could you try using the console/terminal to launch minecraft?
#3209 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> If it throws any errors, you'll be able to see it
#3210 [18:17] <JusExcon> sure
#3211 [18:18] <Smeecki> GreyVulpine: Everything's in the downloads folders, sorry to be a bug. I might go idle a bit.
#3212 [18:19] <JusExcon> I forgot, mostly
#3213 [18:19] <JusExcon> How would I launch minecraft from the console?
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#3215 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> cd to where you have the minecraft.jar launcher you downloaded from the site.
#3216 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#3217 [18:20] <WugBot> GreyVulpine: (ts/launcher) Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#3218 [18:20] <WugBot> GreyVulpine: (ts/launcher) Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#3219 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Gah
#3220 [18:20] <JusExcon> ah
#3221 [18:20] * GreyVulpine kicks Wugbot
#3221 [18:20] <JusExcon> lol, illegal?
#3222 [18:21] <JusExcon> i wonder
#3223 [18:21] <JusExcon> anyways
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#3225 [18:24] <Poketoa> I've learned a bit. I have a decent Lava Retrieval Trap up now. The question is, how do I get mobs to spawn on it
#3226 [18:24] <Poketoa> So far I haven't had a single mob spawn in the cave I created
#3227 [18:24] <Poketoa> :/
#3228 [18:26] <Scott> Kealper: Would it be possible to add something to AuBot that would generate a key?
#3229 [18:27] <Kealper> Scott: anything is possible when you are talking about AutoIt and me in the same sentence :o
#3230 [18:27] <Kealper> Scott: what kind of key?
#3231 [18:27] <Scott> In order to prevent abuse, we need a way to generate a one time use key for the paste site.
#3232 [18:27] <Scott> Like… !paste and it would generate a URL with a valid key
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#3235 [18:28] <Scott> I'm not really sure how we could do it without sharing information somehow :/
#3236 [18:29] <mib_tirjxq> i have a server and me and my friend are ops on it, but when we deop ourselves we cannot open the chest in the spawnpoint, how can I fix this to where anyone who joins and is not op can open the chest
#3237 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> Can't. Not without modding the server
#3238 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> Or you can move the chest away from spawn
#3239 [18:29] <Kealper> Scott: well, anyway you come up with i could do
#3240 [18:30] <Scott> The only thing I can think of is if we generate a list of keys and refill AuBot lol
#3241 [18:30] <Scott> Hmmm lets chat in private
#3242 [18:30] <Kealper> yeah, i have an idea
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#3245 [18:40] <Dre> why when i play it is really laggy
#3246 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Old computer? Have you tried turning down the graphics options in minecraft?
#3247 [18:41] <Dre> yes, and my computer it is two years old
#3248 [18:41] <Dre> yes to the graphics
#3249 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Got a 64 bit OS?
#3250 [18:43] <b0xxy> GreyVulpine - having trouble traveling to "the end" we enable to gate in strong hold just teleports us to another random part of the world we are in, any ideas whats going on?
#3251 [18:43] <Dre> no, if that is the reason how do i download it
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#3253 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Dre - If you don't have a 64 bit OS, there's nothing you can do
#3254 [18:44] <Dre> can i download it and is found at the java website
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#3256 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> That's why I was asking. If you had a 64 bit operating system, you can try downloading and installing the 64 bit version of java. Some have reported it solving their lag issues.
#3257 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> If you only have a 32 bit operating system, you won't be able to install 64 bit java
#3258 [18:46] <blaze2468> i purchased the game and it debited it from my account but im still not premium?
#3259 [18:46] <Dre> is that the only way. is maybe because i am short of memory
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#3261 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> Without knowing your computer's full specs, I cannot tell you
#3262 [18:46] <bourne223> can anyone help me with a modloader problem?
#3263 [18:46] <Dre> ok thank you
#3264 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> This isn't a channel for modloader help
#3265 [18:46] <bourne223> would i want #risucraft?
#3266 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3267 [18:46] <bourne223> because they don't listen to me at all
#3268 [18:47] <bourne223> they're all just rambling
#3269 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> because they're mostly tired of people asking the same newbish questions all the time.
#3270 [18:47] <blaze2468> i want a refund
#3271 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Hah, you want a refund, because an unofficial modification of the game doesn't work for you?
#3272 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Good luck with that
#3273 [18:47] <bourne223> like "i can't get 1.8 modloader to work"
#3274 [18:47] <bourne223> ^^ mine
#3275 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> You don't pay anything for modloader.
#3276 [18:47] <blaze2468> nothing will work'
#3277 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> "Modloader doesn't work", is like going to your mechanic, and saying, "my car runs funny"
#3278 [18:48] <JusExcon> hello
#3279 [18:48] <JusExcon> i am back
#3280 [18:48] <JusExcon> ok
#3281 [18:48] <JusExcon> so i started up minecraft
#3282 [18:48] <blaze2468> i bought it for my son and it said it would take an hour for it to show up and nothing i downloaded everything already
#3283 [18:48] <JusExcon> and i get this
#3284 [18:49] <JusExcon> http://pastebin.com/efWkexcC
#3285 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> blaze2468 - Did you actually download minecraft from minecraft.net/download?
#3286 [18:49] <blaze2468> yes
#3287 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> JusExcon - What operating system are you on again? linux?
#3288 [18:49] <JusExcon> Yes, linux
#3289 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Did you clear out everything in ~/.minecraft/ except for saves?
#3290 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> blaze2468 - And what happens exactly when you try and launch it?
#3291 [18:50] <JusExcon> Blackscreen
#3292 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> JusExcon - Did you clear out everything in ~/.minecraft/ except for saves?
#3293 [18:50] <JusExcon> yes
#3294 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Check again
#3295 [18:50] <blaze2468> says" user not premium"
#3296 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> blaze2468 - Then the transaction wasn't completed for some reason. How long ago did you pay for minecraft?
#3297 [18:50] <blaze2468> on the 23 of november
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#3299 [18:51] <blaze2468> it already took it out my account
#3300 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> blaze2468 - What did you use to pay for it? Did you get any emails confirming payment?
#3301 [18:51] <blaze2468> it was confirmed
#3302 [18:51] <DRE> what is the link for 64 bit
#3303 [18:51] <blaze2468> threw e-mail
#3304 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> blaze2468 - Did you buy an account, or a gift code?
#3305 [18:51] <blaze2468> account
#3306 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> DRE - For?
#3307 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> blaze2468 - Are you sure about that?
#3308 [18:52] <blaze2468> positive
#3309 [18:52] <DRE> the one you told me earlier
#3310 [18:52] <blaze2468> and i tried the code at the profile screen and it said invalid
#3311 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> DRE - For 64 bit java? try http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u29-download-513650.html
#3312 [18:52] <DRE> thank you
#3313 [18:52] <JusExcon> i just attempted to start minecraft classic - it worked
#3314 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> DRE - Be aware you'll only be able to install 64 bit java if you have a 64 bit Operating system
#3315 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> JusExcon - Make sure you have sun java installed on your system. Use java -version to check
#3316 [18:53] <JusExcon> SUN java?
#3317 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> JusExcon - Yes
#3318 [18:53] <JusExcon> i currently have OpenJDK java
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#3322 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> blaze2468 - If you have a code in the profile page, then you bought a gift code, not an account
#3323 [18:53] <b0xxy> Anyone having trouble going into The End in multiplayer? we enable the portal but it refuses to telport us into world_the_end it just telports us to another location in the same world.
#3324 [18:53] <blaze2468> is there a customer service e-mail or number lol
#3325 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> blaze2468 - Nope. Not unless you want to call long distance to sweden
#3326 [18:54] <JusExcon> in fact
#3327 [18:54] <JJB> I'm having trouble opening mine craft
#3328 [18:54] <blaze2468> i bought the account im not an idiot
#3329 [18:54] <JusExcon> Minecraft worked about 3 hours ago
#3330 [18:54] <DRE> how do I know if i have a 64 bit operating system
#3331 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> blaze2468 - If you see a code in the profile page, you bought a gift code, not an account
#3332 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> You need to redeem that code when you're logged into the account at minecraft.net/
#3333 [18:54] <JusExcon> DRE, do you have windows?
#3334 [18:54] <blaze2468> i got free international calling just probably dont speak there language
#3335 [18:54] <DRE> yes
#3336 [18:55] <JusExcon> Go to the windows orb
#3337 [18:55] <JusExcon> Right-click computer
#3338 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> blaze2468 - Use http://www.minecraft.net/user/redeem to redeem your gift code
#3339 [18:55] <DRE> how
#3340 [18:55] <JusExcon> click properties
#3341 [18:55] <DRE> k
#3342 [18:55] <JusExcon> Go to the windows orb, right click computer, click properties
#3343 [18:55] <DRE> how do i go to windows orb
#3344 [18:55] <blaze2468> invalid gift code or already in use
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#3346 [18:56] <JusExcon> Do you have windows XP?
#3347 [18:56] <JJB> I need help opening mine craft
#3348 [18:56] <DRE> yes
#3349 [18:56] <JusExcon> In that case, it is 32-bit
#3350 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> blaze2468 - Do you see anything to the left of where the gift code is listed? It'll tell you if it's been redeemed
#3351 [18:56] <JusExcon> not 64-bit
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#3354 [18:56] <JusExcon> Unless you have the special version of Windows XP
#3355 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> blaze2468 - er, to the right
#3356 [18:56] <DRE> wait i think mine is a vista
#3357 [18:56] <JusExcon> ...
#3358 [18:56] <JusExcon> Do you have a windows orb on the bottom left corner?
#3359 [18:57] <Scott> 64bit Windows XP was sold with computers with 4+GB of RAM. It's not extremely rare.
#3360 [18:57] <DRE> no
#3361 [18:57] <blaze2468> nah bro
#3362 [18:57] <JusExcon> Then you have Windows XP or older.
#3363 [18:57] <JusExcon> Simple as that.
#3364 [18:57] <DRE> then what do i do about my laggy problem
#3365 [18:57] <JusExcon> Install a mod called OptiFine
#3366 [18:58] <JusExcon> unless that's against the rules, never bother to read them
#3367 [18:58] <DRE> can you give me a link
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#3369 [18:58] <quibbit> I neeed help opening mine craft
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#3371 [19:00] <mib_0thxx2> I need help openinig mine craft
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#3375 [19:02] <Morrolan> JusExcon: Not "against the rules", we just don't support it.
#3376 [19:02] <JusExcon> ah
#3377 [19:02] <squiggy> Plz help me
#3378 [19:03] <JusExcon> So mostly, I think my minecraft problem is probably an openGL problem
#3379 [19:03] <JusExcon> with minecraft
#3380 [19:03] <JusExcon> which makes no sense at all
#3381 [19:03] <squiggy> Tell me how to open mine craft
#3382 [19:03] <Morrolan> squiggy: Get the launcher from here, log in, done.
#3383 [19:03] <zelda> Having issues opening minecraft classic, getting a fatal error 4. Wanted to try the older version out before deciding if I want to purchase the current. All the fatal error 4 fixes I see are for the new though, not the old. So can anyone help?
#3384 [19:03] <Morrolan> !client
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#3386 [19:04] <Morrolan> Yea, so I'll just assume that this fixed his issue.
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#3388 [19:05] <Morrolan> zelda: Classic is completely different from the current Minecraft, so you might want to try the demo instead. (If you're on WIndows)
#3389 [19:05] <Morrolan> ??> zelda demo
#3390 [19:05] <VoxelHead> zelda: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#3391 [19:05] <VoxelHead> zelda: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#3392 [19:05] <Morrolan> As for the issue you have - sorry, not familiar with classic at all.
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#3394 [19:06] <Morrolan> Also, GreyVulpine, you were completely right when you said that we'd have an issue, not knowing what to call the current version of Minecraf.t
#3395 [19:06] * GreyVulpine hehs and nods
#3395 [19:07] <Kealper> i noticed that myself... i was about to ask if someone meant Classic or Beta but then i was like "....wait a tick..."
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#3397 [19:07] <DRE> hello
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#3403 [19:09] <meeeee> hay can someone help me
#3404 [19:09] <DRE> i need sombody to help me, but i could try
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#3406 [19:10] <mib_f7kit5> how do u join a server on mincraft
#3407 [19:10] <mib_f7kit5> how do u join a server on mincraft
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#3409 [19:11] <meeeee> any body here
#3410 [19:11] <shawdowaussie> ?
#3411 [19:11] <Kealper> shawdowaussie: well, first you need to know the address to the server you want to join
#3412 [19:11] <shawdowaussie> how do i get an address?
#3413 [19:12] <meeeee> hay kealper do you know what survival island is
#3414 [19:13] <shawdowaussie> Kealper: where can i find an adress?
#3415 [19:13] <Kealper> shawdowaussie: generally the server host will provide it
#3416 [19:13] <Kealper> ?? smp/servers
#3417 [19:13] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3418 [19:13] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#3419 [19:13] <Kealper> meeeee: a custom map, i assume?
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#3422 [19:13] <shawdowaussie> Thanks :)
#3423 [19:14] <meeeee> yeah well when i type in the name of the surver it comes up with a totally difrent server
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#3425 [19:14] <mib_yrju2u> my game keeps stopping at done downloading what do i do
#3426 [19:15] <Kealper> meeeee: uhh... what server address are you trying?
#3427 [19:15] <Kealper> ??> DRE dont/pm
#3428 [19:15] <VoxelHead> DRE: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#3429 [19:15] <DRE> what is pm
#3430 [19:15] <Kealper> private message, aka what you just did
#3431 [19:15] <DRE> never mind
#3432 [19:15] <meeeee> wait a sec
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#3434 [19:15] <DRE> why is my minecraft so laggy
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#3436 [19:16] <Erik> DRE
#3437 [19:16] <DRE> yes
#3438 [19:16] <Erik> i opened a chat with you
#3439 [19:16] <Erik> i can help
#3440 [19:16] <DRE> so why is my minecraft laggy
#3441 [19:16] <Erik> talk on the private chat
#3442 [19:17] <Morrolan> Your computer not being able to support it, many programs running in the background, etc etc.
#3443 [19:17] <DRE> hello
#3444 [19:17] <Erik> You can always use task manger to delete processes
#3445 [19:17] <Erik> And change ur settings ingame
#3446 [19:18] <DRE> yes but it is so laggy i cant even play, and i tryed changing the graphics
#3447 [19:18] <meeeee> ok wait never mind
#3448 [19:18] <Erik> What computer do you have?
#3449 [19:18] <DRE> toshiba windows xp
#3450 [19:18] <Morrolan> In this case your computer might just not be able to handle Minecraft, DRE. You could, as a last hope, try a mod called "Optifine"
#3451 [19:19] <DRE> can i have the link
#3452 [19:19] <Morrolan> Google will help you with that, DRE:
#3453 [19:19] <DRE> sometimes it doesnt work on a windows 7
#3454 [19:20] <DRE> and it is the same problem
#3455 [19:21] <Ketsueki> ??> DRE win/dxdiag
#3456 [19:21] <VoxelHead> DRE: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3457 [19:21] <VoxelHead> DRE: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
#3458 [19:21] <Ketsueki> DRE: if you pastebin the results of that someone (maybe even me) will be able to make an educated guess about if minecraft can /ever/ work on that hardware.
#3459 [19:22] <DRE> so is it my computer
#3460 [19:22] <Ketsueki> whichever computer you want to run minecraft on
#3461 [19:22] <DRE> which computer would it work on
#3462 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Any computer that's of the last few years or newer
#3463 [19:24] <DRE> one is 2 years and the other is not even a year
#3464 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> Windows Xp was released in 2001. Vista in 2005
#3465 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> if you're running windows XP on that rig, it's most likely at least 5+ years old
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#3467 [19:25] <DRE> mine is vista and i got in 2008
#3468 [19:25] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: not necessairly.
#3469 [19:26] <Ketsueki> Vista sucked balls forever.
#3470 [19:26] <Morrolan> Vista did just fine.
#3471 [19:26] <Ketsueki> LOTS of users fled it for the stability and mature drivers of XP
#3472 [19:26] <Crus> it did, it does, and it will.
#3473 [19:26] <Kealper> Vista isn't bad
#3474 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Sure, but consumer-wise, vista was installed OEM on all computers, with the option of rolling back to XP if you pre-configured it
#3475 [19:26] <Kealper> it just isn't spectacular, it's mediocre
#3476 [19:26] <Ketsueki> All of my experiences with Vista were sub-par in comparison to XP on the same hardware.
#3477 [19:27] <Crus> XP > vista :P
#3478 [19:27] <Morrolan> Now that's to expect. ;)
#3479 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> And sorry, Vista was out in 2007.
#3480 [19:27] <Kealper> 2006
#3481 [19:27] <DRE> well can somebody fix my problem
#3482 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> Oh, right
#3483 [19:27] <Ketsueki> DRE: I don't see a pastebin
#3484 [19:27] <Erik> xD
#3485 [19:27] <Erik> Silly goose
#3486 [19:27] <Crus> I still use xp. It's easy for me to understand the filepaths.
#3487 [19:27] <Kealper> i use Windows 7
#3488 [19:27] <Morrolan> ^
#3489 [19:27] <Erik> I use windows 8
#3490 [19:28] <Kealper> i enjoy all of my DirectX10 and 11 games
#3491 [19:28] <Crus> I mean. 7 isnt hard, but when I get to the in-depth files, I cannot find what I am looking for.
#3492 [19:28] <DRE> i have a computer that has windows 7 and it has the same problem
#3493 [19:28] <Erik> Maybe its ur internet?
#3494 [19:28] <Morrolan> DRE: Well, it's not about the OS, it's about the hardware, a bout what's built in.
#3495 [19:28] <Morrolan> about*
#3496 [19:29] <Morrolan> It could be that the PC with Windows 7 isn't that strong either.
#3497 [19:29] <Erik> dre: do your computers have the same ip?
#3498 [19:29] <DRE> well my internet is good i get full bars and yes
#3499 [19:29] <Crus> Well, my computer needs more ram, either way.
#3500 [19:29] <Erik> DRE right click my computer and look at its properties
#3501 [19:29] <Scott> Erik: you must do nothing important :D
#3502 [19:29] <DRE> k
#3503 [19:30] <DRE> now what
#3504 [19:30] <Erik> what system type is ur computer?
#3505 [19:30] <Ketsueki> DRE: any way we slice this, step #1 would be the dxdiag for a clear, concicse set of info.
#3506 [19:30] <Kealper> ^
#3507 [19:30] <DRE> 32 bit
#3508 [19:30] <Erik> Ok
#3509 [19:30] * MINECRAFTLOVER [MINECRAFTLOVER@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3510 [19:30] <Erik> what about ur RAM?
#3511 [19:31] <DRE> 2 gb
#3512 [19:31] <Erik> Ok good.
#3513 [19:31] <Erik> Processor?
#3514 [19:31] <MINECRAFTLOVER> Why do I lag a TON when I play and how may I fix his problem quickly?
#3515 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> This is where dxdiag would be great...
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#3517 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> He would give us a dxdiag, we'd get all our questions answered
#3518 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> MINECRAFTLOVER - Operating system?
#3519 [19:32] <DRE> Intel(R) core tm 2 duo cpu
#3520 [19:32] <Erik> tell me ur GHz
#3521 [19:32] <MINECRAFTLOVER> I think Windows 7 Grey
#3522 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> MINECRAFTLOVER - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#3523 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> ??> MINECRAFTLOVER win/dxdiag
#3524 [19:32] <VoxelHead> MINECRAFTLOVER: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3525 [19:32] <DRE> 1.50
#3526 [19:32] <VoxelHead> MINECRAFTLOVER: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
#3527 [19:32] <Scott> Erik: I may cut off your fingers if you keep saying 'ur' instead of 'your'. >_<
#3528 [19:32] <mr_boo> im trying to play minecraft and like 5 mines in, it will sayminecraft has run out of memory, how do i take care of this?
#3529 [19:33] <Erik> Fine xD
#3530 [19:33] <Crus> Ooh, a fellow grammar nazi! :D
#3531 [19:33] <Erik> I'm too lazy to typeyour.
#3532 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> mr_boo - Got a 64 bit OS?
#3533 [19:33] <mr_boo> ....wuts that??
#3534 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> mr_boo - What operating system are you on? Windows? Mac? linux? OS/2 warp?
#3535 [19:33] * GreyVulpine stabs Kealper.
#3535 [19:33] <MINECRAFTLOVER> GreyVulpine How can I fix the lag with no downloads
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#3537 [19:34] <Erik> Macs are usually perfect for Minecraft.
#3538 [19:34] <Kealper> rofl at OS/2 warp
#3539 [19:34] <Damein> hey is mc down?
#3540 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> MINECRAFTLOVER - Give us a dxdiag, we can determine your system's specs
#3541 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Damein - Nope
#3542 [19:34] <DRE> i dont have a mac
#3543 [19:34] <MINECRAFTLOVER> What is dxdiag?
#3544 [19:34] <Kealper> !login
#3545 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> MINECRAFTLOVER - Lets us know what specs your computer has
#3546 [19:34] <Damein> why is it when i try to log in it says cant connect to minecraft.net?
#3547 [19:34] <DRE> :(
#3548 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> ??> MINECRAFTLOVER win/dxdiag
#3549 [19:34] <Kealper> poop.
#3550 [19:34] <VoxelHead> MINECRAFTLOVER: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3551 [19:34] <MINECRAFTLOVER> specs?
#3552 [19:34] <VoxelHead> MINECRAFTLOVER: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
#3553 [19:34] <Erik> DRE: What is your Manufacturer?
#3554 [19:35] <Damein> why is it when i try to log in it says cant connect to minecraft.net?
#3555 [19:35] <DRE> toshiba and the other is hp
#3556 [19:35] <Damein> lol he quit
#3557 [19:35] <Erik> Hmm pretty good but I think your GHz should be causing it.
#3558 [19:35] * GreyVulpine snrks
#3558 [19:35] <mr_boo> 4 bit
#3559 [19:35] <mr_boo> 64 bit....com
#3560 [19:35] <mr_boo> computer is being an annus
#3561 [19:35] <Damein> grey why is it when i try to log in it says cant connect to minecraft.net?
#3562 [19:35] <DRE> can i fix it
#3563 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> mr_boo - if you're running a 64 bit OS, download and install 64 bit java
#3564 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> :j
#3565 [19:36] <Damein> and same with my friend
#3566 [19:36] <Erik> Because mine is only 2.00 and I can't play games on Steam but Terraria
#3567 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> Damein - Try in-browser at minecraft.net
#3568 [19:36] <Damein> i cant get to minecraft.net it gives me an error
#3569 [19:36] <DRE> wat are those
#3570 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> Erik - Yes, because Ghz is everything for gaming. You haven't looked at graphic drivers, or any of a dozen other things
#3571 [19:36] <mr_boo> windows vista, NVIDIA
#3572 [19:37] <mr_boo> java is installed
#3573 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> mr_boo - No, install 64 bit java
#3574 [19:37] <Erik> I think maybe DRE needs a better video card.
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#3576 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> mr_boo - If you used java.com to install java, it installs only 32 bit java
#3577 [19:37] <mr_boo> ....is there a difference
#3578 [19:37] <DRE> so should i buy a video card
#3579 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> mr_boo - Yes. 64-bit java can address more RAM, which fixes the out of memory error on minecraft
#3580 [19:37] <mr_boo> ohh, i c, kan u send me a link??
#3581 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> I just did
#3582 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> er
#3583 [19:38] <Crus> my gf 60hz of display. Is that bad?
#3584 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u29-download-513650.html
#3585 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Use Windows x64
#3586 [19:38] <Damein> grey i cant get to minecraft.net
#3587 [19:38] <Damein> http://92.242.140.29/?nxdomain=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.minecraft.net&AddInType=2&PlatformInfo=pbrgen
#3588 [19:38] <Damein> that is the link i get when it is finished loading
#3589 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Wait, what?
#3590 [19:39] <DRE> Erik
#3591 [19:39] <Damein> i cant get to minecraft.net grey it gives me an error
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#3593 [19:40] <DarkNexusTrein> hello?
#3594 [19:41] <Crus> ohaithar
#3595 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Damein - Looks like the auth server for the launcher is down. in-browser client at minecraft.net still works
#3596 [19:41] <DarkNexusTrein> how come i cant go to the url minecraft.net or start the game?
#3597 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> DarkNexusTrein - What happens when you try to go to minecraft.net via your browser?
#3598 [19:42] <DarkNexusTrein> it load the website suggestions page
#3599 [19:42] <Crus> he is asking if the mc server is down
#3600 [19:42] <DarkNexusTrein> as if it doesnt exist
#3601 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> !isdown
#3602 [19:42] <DarkNexusTrein> lol
#3603 [19:42] * GreyVulpine pokes greybot
#3603 [19:42] <DarkNexusTrein> i figured
#3604 [19:42] <Crus> Darknexus, the minecraft servers are down, for some odd reason
#3605 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> I can load the website just fine..
#3606 [19:43] <DarkNexusTrein> i still wonder why all my friends are still on my server and i cant even start it
#3607 [19:43] <DarkNexusTrein> oh now it works
#3608 [19:43] <DarkNexusTrein> -_-
#3609 [19:43] <Crus> lol
#3610 [19:43] <Crus> lol
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#3612 [19:43] <DarkNexusTrein> maybe a small update?
#3613 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Nah
#3614 [19:43] <DarkNexusTrein> or something
#3615 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Mojang doesn't work on the weekeneds
#3616 [19:43] <DarkNexusTrein> lol
#3617 [19:43] <DarkNexusTrein> well
#3618 [19:44] <DarkNexusTrein> a url and a client just doesnt stop for no reason
#3619 [19:44] <Crus> it can.
#3620 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> You haven't been with minecraft for that long, have you?
#3621 [19:44] <Crus> Overclog in th servers, just like toilet paper in a toilet.
#3622 [19:44] <DarkNexusTrein> since november last year
#3623 [19:44] <DarkNexusTrein> :P
#3624 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Then you know how often minecraft can just go down for no reason
#3625 [19:44] <DarkNexusTrein> yeah
#3626 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> See 1.3 beta, for servers going down for days on end
#3627 [19:44] <DarkNexusTrein> but it usually doesnt happen when im on
#3628 [19:45] * GreyVulpine snrks
#3628 [19:45] <Crus> lol. I remember it happening every moon.
#3629 [19:45] <DarkNexusTrein> i got off to make a skin
#3630 [19:45] <DarkNexusTrein> and when i came back
#3631 [19:45] <DarkNexusTrein> it didnt start
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#3634 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> https://twitter.com/#!/mollstam -- "Up now, think it was a fluke in Amazon to be honest. Since it wasn't white page, and since control panel didn't load for a while. : )"
#3635 [19:46] <DarkNexusTrein> official game release not very official huh
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#3637 [19:46] <Zeldaprincess> Is there a link where i can get OpenGL
#3638 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Zeldaprincess - Yes, it's usually included with your video card's drivers
#3639 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> You do not install OpenGL by itself
#3640 [19:46] <Crus> Lol, intel sucks for opengl. :P
#3641 [19:47] <Zeldaprincess> Yeah Mine says Bad video card
#3642 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> <Crus> Lol, intel sucks
#3643 [19:47] <mib_011198_bif> helllo grey this is damein im teamviewing my friend he cant get on the downloaded version or get to minecraft.net and i can is there a way to fix this
#3644 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> There, fixed it for you
#3645 [19:47] <Zeldaprincess> What should i do?
#3646 [19:47] <DarkNexusTrein> get another video card :P
#3647 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Zeldaprincess - Update your video card's drivers
#3648 [19:47] <Damein> grey help us
#3649 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Zeldaprincess - What operating system are you on?
#3650 [19:47] <Crus> lol. I was gon' say either way.
#3651 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Damein - Looks like a problem with Amazon's servers
#3652 [19:47] <Crus> I mean, It's bad either way; worse with open gl.
#3653 [19:47] <Zeldaprincess> I have Geforce
#3654 [19:47] <Damein> what?
#3655 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Nothing you can do but wait it out
#3656 [19:47] <pheleas_frog> Newbie: How do I save my levels not online when i dont have a premium account?
#3657 [19:47] <Crus> Oh.
#3658 [19:47] <Damein> amazons servers?
#3659 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> pheleas_frog - On premium?
#3660 [19:48] <Crus> I have an Nvidia Geforce GTX 7something
#3661 [19:48] <DarkNexusTrein> im bout to go play xbox or starcraft :P
#3662 [19:48] <Damein> ..... :fuuuuuu:
#3663 [19:48] <DarkNexusTrein> lol
#3664 [19:48] <DarkNexusTrein> i be a crafter all the way
#3665 [19:48] <Zeldaprincess> Maybe my Geforce needs to be Updated?
#3666 [19:48] <Damein> not fair
#3667 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> Zeldaprincess - yes
#3668 [19:48] <Zeldaprincess> okay is there a link for that?
#3669 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> Zeldaprincess - Try updating your geforce card's drivers by going to nvidia.com
#3670 [19:48] <Damein> so just wait it out grey
#3671 [19:48] <Crus> My nvidia card needed to be updated in either way.
#3672 [19:49] <DarkNexusTrein> i craft stars and i craft mines and i craft worlds :P
#3673 [19:49] <Zeldaprincess> okay
#3674 [19:49] <Crus> From an nvidia.com download, or I could just go through my driver list, open the properties of the card, then hit check for updates.
#3675 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> http://www.geforce.com/Drivers
#3676 [19:50] * GreyVulpine goes afk for a while.
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#3677 [19:50] <DarkNexusTrein> yeah cuz im on mcmyadmin and theirs 24 people on my server right now
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#3679 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Auth server just came back up for me
#3680 [19:51] <Zeldaprincess> Where can i download them or will it download itself when it finds what Update i need?
#3681 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> Try the auto-detect utility at http://www.geforce.com/Drivers
#3682 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> It should detect what nvidia card you have, and suggest a download for you
#3683 [19:52] <Zeldaprincess> They said they cant detect it
#3684 [19:52] <DarkNexusTrein> yeah so i cant launch the in browser or download so ima stay here and be annoying until i get bored and leave
#3685 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> Then, give us a dxdiag
#3686 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> ??> Zeldaprincess win/dxdiag
#3687 [19:52] <DarkNexusTrein> which will be very soon so dont worry
#3688 [19:52] <VoxelHead> Zeldaprincess: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3689 [19:52] <VoxelHead> Zeldaprincess: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
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#3693 [19:53] <Zeldaprincess> Win+R sorry i am lost
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#3695 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> Windows + R keys. The windows key is the one with the windows logo on it. betwen your ctrl and alt keys
#3696 [19:54] <Jackson413> !isdown
#3697 [19:54] <Electrochock> Hello i need help urgent.
#3698 [19:54] <Jackson413> lagtest
#3699 [19:54] <Zeldaprincess> Oh run
#3700 [19:54] <Jackson413> !isup
#3701 [19:54] <Zeldaprincess> okay
#3702 [19:54] <Jackson413> !isdown
#3703 [19:54] <Jackson413> fuck
#3704 [19:54] * AuBot kicked Jackson413 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ackson413 :Please keep it civil.)
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#3706 [19:54] <Jackson413> minecraft down?
#3707 [19:54] <Jackson413> !isdown
#3708 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - Minecraft's having some problems, yeah
#3709 [19:54] <Electrochock> i can not connect on minecraft.net
#3710 [19:54] <Jackson413> ok
#3711 [19:55] <Jackson413> just making sure
#3712 [19:55] <Electrochock> i though my account has been hacked :'(
#3713 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> see https://twitter.com/#!/mollstam
#3714 [19:55] <mollstam> :o
#3715 [19:55] <Electrochock> ok and about the game: can't connect to minecraft.net
#3716 [19:55] <DarkNexusTrein> yeah
#3717 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Ruh-roh, I woke the mollstam.
#3718 [19:56] <DarkNexusTrein> lol
#3719 [19:56] <Jackson413> holy crap
#3720 [19:56] <Jackson413> its...him
#3721 [19:56] <DarkNexusTrein> lol
#3722 [19:57] <Zeldaprincess> My Direct X is 9.0c
#3723 [19:57] <Jackson413> this is so cool
#3724 [19:57] <Crus> 665m bytes is about how much gigs... lessee, 1024 kb is 1 mb. 1024 mb is 1 gb. doing the math, 1,048,576 kb is one gig. so then I am using 643 gigs of ram?! what?!
#3725 [19:57] <Jackson413> mollstam, fancy a beer?
#3726 [19:57] <Electrochock> what ? xd
#3727 [19:57] <Crus> Alright, I dun get this. XD
#3728 [19:57] <Jackson413> Crus, weed and math dont work well together
#3729 [19:57] <DarkNexusTrein> \makeuse GreyVulpine reload minecraft.exe si the rest of us can play minecraft and stop whining
#3730 [19:57] <DarkNexusTrein> lol
#3731 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Crus - Check your math again
#3732 [19:58] <DarkNexusTrein> lol it worked
#3733 [19:58] <Crus> XD IDK where.
#3734 [19:58] <DarkNexusTrein> i can get on the launcher now
#3735 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Crus - 1,048,576 kb is 1 gig.
#3736 [19:58] <DarkNexusTrein> you know im a pro like that
#3737 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> That's kilobytes
#3738 [19:58] <DarkNexusTrein> i did a fail command and it worked
#3739 [19:58] <DarkNexusTrein> lol
#3740 [19:58] <DarkNexusTrein> well bye
#3741 [19:58] <Zeldaprincess> Should i redownload Minecraft?
#3742 [19:59] <DarkNexusTrein> thanks for ya time grey
#3743 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Zeldaprincess - No, we're still waiting on your dxdiag
#3744 [19:59] <DarkNexusTrein> no it works now
#3745 [19:59] <DarkNexusTrein> lol
#3746 [19:59] <Crus> Ik. I took the kb of ram used by mc (665m) divided by 1 gig.
#3747 [19:59] <Crus> well, in kbform
#3748 [19:59] <Electrochock> mollstam, "Aaand having a check at login. This is fun. : D"
#3749 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure it's 665 million bytes, or 665 million kilobytes?
#3750 [19:59] <Crus> just to see how much gig's im using. But something is 100% off. Ahh well, timeo do another day. Bye!
#3751 [19:59] <Electrochock> the login doesn't work actually ?
#3752 [20:00] <Zeldaprincess> What do i need to give you?
#3753 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> ??> Zeldaprincess win/dxdiag
#3754 [20:00] <VoxelHead> Zeldaprincess: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3755 [20:00] <Zeldaprincess> my DirectX?
#3756 [20:00] <Crus> woops, it's thousand
#3757 [20:00] <VoxelHead> Zeldaprincess: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's
#3758 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> Crus - Then you're running 665 megabytes, or less than a gig
#3759 [20:02] <Zeldaprincess> Okay i saved it all to my Desktop
#3760 [20:02] <Zeldaprincess> What Next?
#3761 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Zeldaprincess - Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar here
#3762 [20:02] <Zeldaprincess> Okay
#3763 [20:03] <Electrochock> So, actually noone can login into minecraft.net ?
#3764 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> Erm, I can, apparently some can't
#3765 [20:03] <Electrochock> yes i can notsince.. some minutes or hours..
#3766 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> You're talking about the launcher, yes?
#3767 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Not the website?
#3768 [20:04] <Electrochock> yes and the website "login"
#3769 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> The login doesn't work on the website either?
#3770 [20:04] <mollstam> login should be better now
#3771 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Thanks mollstam.
#3772 [20:05] <mollstam> 1500 per second ;o
#3773 [20:05] <Electrochock> launcher some minute i can login into the game and i retry after.. i can not login
#3774 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Oh, some people have been getting "Unknown username or password" when logging into the website. I got it myself just today, but clearing my cache fixed it
#3775 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Don't know if it's the same for others
#3776 [20:05] <mollstam> —.—
#3777 [20:05] <mollstam> I've heard about this
#3778 [20:05] <Zeldaprincess> http://pastebin.com/dWihWDPC
#3779 [20:05] <Electrochock> i can not login website actually
#3780 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Electrochock - What error do you get?
#3781 [20:06] <Zeldaprincess> There is the Infomation
#3782 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Zeldaprincess - I.. do not think you'll be able to play minecraft on that machine, unfortuantely. It's a bit.. outdated
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#3784 [20:07] <Electrochock> GreyVulpine, website " Oops, unknown username or password. " but i can login launcher
#3785 [20:07] <Zeldaprincess> I was able to play it before for some reason
#3786 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Electrochock - Clear your browser's cache and temp files
#3787 [20:07] <Electrochock> i don't understand :/
#3788 [20:07] <Zeldaprincess> On this machine
#3789 [20:07] <Electrochock> Ok i do that.
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#3791 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Zeldaprincess - The deal is that you have less than half a gig of RAM, minecraft tries to take up a full gig. Also, to compound that, you're running an integrated intel graphics card, which shares system RAM to do 3d acceleration
#3792 [20:08] <frogonia> helloo..im new..can anybody help me? i have couple of questions? :)
#3793 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Zeldaprincess - You may be able to trick minecraft into running with less RAM, but even so, minecraft will not run well
#3794 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Zeldaprincess - You may be able to trick minecraft into running with less RAM, but even so, minecraft will not run well
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#3796 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Zeldaprincess - Try this: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#3797 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> frogonia- Ask away
#3798 [20:09] <frogonia> ok... when i start minecraft my computer turns off...i mean i click on play offline and its shuts down
#3799 [20:10] <frogonia> what can i do??
#3800 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> frogonia - Do you get any error reports? Any files named hs_err_pid that generate where the launcher is located?
#3801 [20:10] <frogonia> no
#3802 [20:10] <frogonia> it just shuts down
#3803 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> frogonia - Where do you have the launcher?
#3804 [20:10] <frogonia> on desktop
#3805 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> frogonia - And there are no files labeled hs_err_pid on the desktop at all?
#3806 [20:11] <frogonia> no
#3807 [20:11] <frogonia> is it maybe my computer setings or my procesor ...
#3808 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on frogonia? Windows? Mac? Linux? OS/2 warp?
#3809 [20:11] <Zeldaprincess> So I have a very Old Laptop Right and it won't respond well if i am playing
#3810 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> Zeldaprincess - Yes
#3811 [20:12] <frogonia> window xp pro
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#3813 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> frogonia - Could you follow these instructions here: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#3814 [20:12] <Zeldaprincess> yes XP
#3815 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> It'll launch minecraft with a command prompt window. When minecraft crashes again, it'll output some errors hopefully.
#3816 [20:12] <frogonia> ok..i'll try..
#3817 [20:12] <frogonia> is that all?
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#3819 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> If you do get errors there, please copy them, paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL so that we may read it
#3820 [20:13] <frogonia> ok
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#3822 [20:14] <Electrochock> GreyVulpine, thanks a lot you are the man i can log into the minecraft.net <3
#3823 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> \o/
#3824 [20:14] <Electrochock> i was so scared :'(
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#3827 [20:15] <Electrochock> i have a last question, when i buy a gift code to a friend, the gift is a pass to have the full game ?
#3828 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3829 [20:16] <Electrochock> ok thank you very muche
#3830 [20:16] <Electrochock> much* i'm tired xd
#3831 [20:16] <mib_vi6lu3> is minecraft already out in the us?
#3832 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_vi6lu3 - It's.. been out for a couple years now
#3833 [20:17] <mib_vi6lu3> really? i thought is was in a beta stage
#3834 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes, but you could've bought an account back then as well.
#3835 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft only just went out of beta a week ago
#3836 [20:18] <Electrochock> can i change my e-mail adress to my account ?
#3837 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Electrochock - Unfortunately not.
#3838 [20:18] <mib_vi6lu3> o ok cool so whats the price of it right now?
#3839 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> 20 euros, or about 27 bucks USD
#3840 [20:18] <Electrochock> ok
#3841 [20:19] <mib_vi6lu3> its not like a mmorpg where theres a subscription fee, right?
#3842 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> Right. One time fee.
#3843 [20:20] <mib_vi6lu3> could i find minecraft like at walmart or target? or gamestop?
#3844 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_vi6lu3 - Nope. It's download only
#3845 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> You can purchase and download minecraft at minecraft.net
#3846 [20:21] <amphiboly> I expected a whopping price hike for 1.0.0, but it's still inexpensive
#3847 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> The price scheme was clearly laid out back in alpha. 10 euros for alpha, 15 if you got it during beta, and 20 euros for final
#3848 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Once you got it, you were promised all future bug fixes and updates, as well as the final release, with no DRM
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#3850 [20:23] <amphiboly> you get an education in speeding up yor laptop for free if you persist
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#3852 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#3853 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Heh
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#3855 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> The number of computer issues we've dealt with in here, has to number in the tens of thousands..
#3856 [20:24] <kermit> After i press 'run' the minecraft tab will come up but the screen will just stay black
#3857 [20:24] <amphiboly> I learned facts about java and win7 I was not expecting to learn when I bought minecraft
#3858 [20:25] <amphiboly> some of which I learned in this channel, thanks
#3859 [20:26] * GreyVulpine nods
#3859 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> kermit - Has it ever worked before?
#3860 [20:26] <Zeldaprincess> This is all i get. Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#3861 [20:26] <kermit> yes
#3862 [20:26] <kermit> about two weeks ago it stopped wprking
#3863 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Zeldaprincess - Yeah, I think your computer may just be too old to run minecraft properly
#3864 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> kermit - Run any mods?
#3865 [20:26] <kermit> no never
#3866 [20:27] <kermit> dont even know how :)
#3867 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> kermit - Any custom texture packs?
#3868 [20:27] <Zeldaprincess> Aww well thanks for the help
#3869 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> sorry Zeldaprincess.
#3870 [20:27] <Zeldaprincess> It's Okay
#3871 [20:27] <kermit> no i leave mincraft the way it should be
#3872 [20:27] <kermit> no extras
#3873 [20:27] <Zeldaprincess> Thanks for trying to help Appericate It
#3874 [20:28] <kermit> have any ideas?
#3875 [20:28] <Electrochock> i lol'ed when i seen 1.0.0 " Added the end "
#3876 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> kermit - tried going to your launcher and doing a "Force Update" in the options menu?
#3877 [20:29] <kermit> yes i tried that but ill try again. be back in a sec
#3878 [20:29] <amphiboly> it's not so fun for me to run mods I consider cheats, but some excellent mods like optifine make minecraft playable on a slow machine like mine
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#3880 [20:30] <kermit> no still doesn't work
#3881 [20:30] <mib_qanj08> hey guys...
#3882 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure there are some excellent mods out there, but after being in here for a year, seeing all the problems people have had that were caused by mods.... it's the only way to keep sane, I run minecraft vanilla.
#3883 [20:31] <mib_qanj08> mwhen i want to play minecraft my computer shuts down
#3884 [20:31] <mib_qanj08> what can i do???
#3885 [20:31] <mib_qanj08> HELP!? PLIZZ
#3886 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> kermit - Does minecraft work in the browser/
#3887 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> mib_qanj08 - Has minecraft worked before? if your computer's shutting off, it's a sign of a deeper problem than just minecraft
#3888 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> mib_qanj08 - Your computer might have a more serious issue that needs to be addressed.
#3889 [20:32] <mib_qanj08> no i just downloaded it..i measn yesterday
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#3891 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> mib_qanj08 - What operating system are you on? Windows? Mac? Linux? OS/2 Warp?
#3892 [20:33] <Aphet> Why does TNT cause lag for not only the person who uses it, but anyone who ever goes near the area of it?
#3893 [20:33] <mib_qanj08> window
#3894 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Aphet - Because of TNT physics. Large amounts of explosions deform the terrain, as well as any other TNT blocks nearby
#3895 [20:34] <Aphet> But what does that do?
#3896 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Aphet - What do you mean?
#3897 [20:34] <Aphet> Why does that cause lag?
#3898 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Aphet - Large amounts of calculations involved
#3899 [20:34] <mib_qanj08> WINDOWS XP
#3900 [20:35] <Aphet> So why does lag stay after it's exploded?
#3901 [20:35] <quer> mib_ganj08 over heat? new fan?
#3902 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Aphet - Too many entities in the area?
#3903 [20:35] <Electrochock> thanks to your helps GreyVulpine bye people
#3904 [20:35] <Aphet> What do you mean by that? :O
#3905 [20:35] <Aphet> What do you mean by that? :O
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#3907 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Aphet - TNT destroys blocks, some of which are converted to floating blocks, or entities.
#3908 [20:35] <mib_qanj08> maybe
#3909 [20:35] <Aphet> I see.
#3910 [20:35] <Aphet> And so that causes...?
#3911 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Aphet - if you have too many entities, it can cause lag in the general area
#3912 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> Too many items to be loaded into memory
#3913 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> As well as streamed out to clients
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#3915 [20:36] <Aphet> So essentially.
#3916 [20:36] <kermit> thanx for helping
#3917 [20:36] <Aphet> If you use TNT in small doses it is fine?
#3918 [20:36] <Aphet> But large amounts = bad?
#3919 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> Aphet - Small amounts of TNT is fine. yes.
#3920 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Large amounts of TNT, expect to have lag.
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#3922 [20:37] <mib_qanj08> help?
#3923 [20:38] <Aphet> Is there a way to remove such entities, by the way?
#3924 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_qanj08 - If your computer is shutting off, I'd recommend taking it to a professional to have it checked out. It isn't merely a minecraft problem, but something much more serious going on in your machine
#3925 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Aphet - Hmm, yes, with map editor like MCedit.
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#3927 [20:39] <Aphet> Ah.
#3928 [20:39] <Aphet> Thanks GreyVulpine!
#3929 [20:39] * GreyVulpine nods
#3929 [20:39] <Aphet> *poof*
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#3932 [20:41] <Har_Har> can someone please help me
#3933 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> Har_Har - With?
#3934 [20:42] <Har_Har> i need help with my server T_T
#3935 [20:42] <Har_Har> i fixed up the port forwarding
#3936 [20:42] <Har_Har> just needsomeone to hceck if it works
#3937 [20:42] <Har_Har> can you connect to an ip fast
#3938 [20:42] <Har_Har> please
#3939 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> !check 65.95.169.160
#3940 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Are you running it on port 25565?
#3941 [20:43] <Har_Har> wait so youll check it
#3942 [20:43] <Har_Har> here this is my ip
#3943 [20:43] <Har_Har> 65.95.169.160
#3944 [20:43] <Har_Har> and let me connect the server
#3945 [20:43] <Har_Har> start*
#3946 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> Tell me when
#3947 [20:43] <Har_Har> ok thanks!
#3948 [20:44] <Har_Har> ok i started it!
#3949 [20:44] <Har_Har> 65.95.169.160
#3950 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> !check 65.95.169.160
#3951 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't seem to work, Har_Har.
#3952 [20:44] <Har_Har> is that the command to check if it works?
#3953 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3954 [20:44] <Har_Har> ok thanks!!
#3955 [20:44] <Har_Har> i think its port forwarding T_T
#3956 [20:44] <Har_Har> i think its port forwarding T_T
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#3958 [20:46] <Har_Har> !check 65.95.169.160
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#3960 [20:53] <Har_Har> !check 25565
#3961 [20:54] <Har_Har> !check 65.95.169.160
#3962 [20:54] <Har_Har> !check 65.95.169.160:25565
#3963 [20:54] <Har_Har> !check 65.95.169.160
#3964 [20:54] <Har_Har> awesoem :)
#3965 [20:54] <Har_Har> thanks AuBot
#3966 [20:54] <Erik> Hi
#3967 [20:55] <Har_Har> hello erik
#3968 [20:55] <Erik> Hi
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#3971 [20:59] <Erik> ....
#3972 [20:59] * Erik IS waiting for people to help.
#3972 [21:00] <_Effect> Hello Erik
#3973 [21:00] <Erik> Hey Effect
#3974 [21:00] <_Effect> What do you need bud?
#3975 [21:00] <Erik> No i was waiting to help othe rpeople.
#3976 [21:00] <Erik> other people*
#3977 [21:00] <_Effect> Ooh, I see :P
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#3979 [21:01] <Erik> 1.0.1 was released?
#3980 [21:01] <Erik> when!?
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#3982 [21:02] <armed_troop> Erik: server
#3983 [21:03] <Erik> hey armed
#3984 [21:03] <armed_troop> hi
#3985 [21:03] <armed_troop> 1.0.1 was a server-only update
#3986 [21:04] <Har_Har> !check 65.95.169.160:25565
#3987 [21:05] <Har_Har> yessssss my friend connected :
#3988 [21:05] <Har_Har> :)
#3989 [21:05] <Har_Har> thanks for the hlp
#3990 [21:05] <Har_Har> later everyone
#3991 [21:05] <Har_Har> and aubot
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#3995 [21:11] <casey5> an error accoured during installation
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#4000 [21:24] <Erik> HI
#4001 [21:24] <Erik> MY NAME IS PIE
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#4008 [21:32] <Jovet> quiet in here :P
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#4018 [22:03] <Sennoytai> *chirp*chirp*
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#4020 [22:05] <smerft> It's been over an hour after I bought the game, but I still haven't recieved the comfirmation email. Why?
#4021 [22:06] <Sennoytai> sme*tab* ..
#4022 [22:06] * Sennoytai changes channel background music to http://dbsoundworks.bandcamp.com/track/4cr1f1c14
#4022 [22:06] <Sennoytai> >:D
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#4026 [22:21] <`Kelby> can you keep creeper pets or will they despawn?
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#4028 [22:21] <Awe_FruitCake> Hello
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#4030 [22:21] <Awe_FruitCake> Can Someone please help me with something?
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#4032 [22:22] <Awe_FruitCake> anyone?
#4033 [22:22] <mib_uztesj> who watches fringe?
#4034 [22:22] <Awe_FruitCake> Can someone please help me?
#4035 [22:22] <mib_uztesj> waat u need help with?
#4036 [22:22] <Awe_FruitCake> A plugin
#4037 [22:22] <mib_uztesj> k wat
#4038 [22:22] <Awe_FruitCake> EssentialsGroupManager
#4039 [22:22] <mib_uztesj> witch
#4040 [22:23] <mib_uztesj> whats wrong?
#4041 [22:23] <Awe_FruitCake> Thankk you soo much
#4042 [22:23] <Awe_FruitCake> Ok
#4043 [22:23] <Awe_FruitCake> so
#4044 [22:23] <mib_uztesj> ok so?
#4045 [22:23] <Awe_FruitCake> i wasnt it so
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#4047 [22:23] <Awe_FruitCake> when newbies join, they can type /sethome etc
#4048 [22:23] <Jovet> `Kelby: did you get your answer question?
#4049 [22:23] <Awe_FruitCake> and /rules and /motd
#4050 [22:24] <mib_uztesj> yeah?
#4051 [22:24] <Awe_FruitCake> but i cant figure out how to set up the groups file
#4052 [22:24] <mib_uztesj> u want it for your server?
#4053 [22:24] <Awe_FruitCake> ill looked up a tut
#4054 [22:24] <Awe_FruitCake> yes
#4055 [22:24] <Awe_FruitCake> do yuo want my ip and yuo can help me on it?
#4056 [22:24] <mib_uztesj> hmm
#4057 [22:24] <Awe_FruitCake> my server ip?
#4058 [22:25] <mib_uztesj> hold on
#4059 [22:25] <`Kelby> no
#4060 [22:25] <Awe_FruitCake> ok
#4061 [22:25] <mib_uztesj> do u have a town?
#4062 [22:25] <mib_uztesj> and stuff
#4063 [22:25] <Awe_FruitCake> just a spawn point
#4064 [22:25] <Awe_FruitCake> with a protection barrier
#4065 [22:25] <supdog14> can someone tell me how to fix my problem it says that minecraft has crashed and i don't know how to fix it?
#4066 [22:25] <mib_uztesj> wanna play with me survival mode?
#4067 [22:25] <Awe_FruitCake> i dont wanna play, i wanna fix my plugin
#4068 [22:25] <`Kelby> can you keep creeper pets or will they despawn?
#4069 [22:25] <mib_uztesj> why not play with me? though we were friends
#4070 [22:26] <Awe_FruitCake> Thought* and i need help with a plugin
#4071 [22:26] <Awe_FruitCake> i wanna get it set up so i can make my server public
#4072 [22:26] <mib_uztesj> well we should play on this server , then fix the plug in later come on budddy
#4073 [22:26] <Awe_FruitCake> but untill the groups are set up, i cant :(
#4074 [22:26] <mib_uztesj> nooo lets play it private
#4075 [22:26] <Jovet> `Kelby: they'll de-spawn once you get far enough away from them.
#4076 [22:27] <Awe_FruitCake> omg..
#4077 [22:27] <supdog14> can someone tell me how to fix my problem it says that minecraft has crashed and i don't know how to fix it?
#4078 [22:27] <mib_uztesj> why do u wanna make it public?
#4079 [22:27] <Awe_FruitCake> i just need some help
#4080 [22:27] <Awe_FruitCake> So people can join
#4081 [22:27] <Wug> supdog14: do you have a 32 bit computer or a 64 bit one
#4082 [22:27] <mib_uztesj> awe_fruitcake lets just play together
#4083 [22:27] <mib_uztesj> private me and you bud come on what u say?
#4084 [22:27] <Awe_FruitCake> so everyone can join and have fun on my server
#4085 [22:27] <supdog14> yes wug
#4086 [22:27] <mib_uztesj> NOOO can we just play together?
#4087 [22:27] <Wug> supdog14: yes, ok. there were 2 options. which one
#4088 [22:28] <mib_uztesj> pure survival?
#4089 [22:28] <supdog14> 64 bit wug
#4090 [22:28] <mib_uztesj> come on itll be fun
#4091 [22:28] <Wug> supdog14: do you have 64 bit jaba
#4092 [22:28] <mib_uztesj> lets do that for 2 days
#4093 [22:28] <Wug> java*
#4094 [22:28] <Awe_FruitCake> dude, i dont thinnk you get why im here
#4095 [22:28] <mib_uztesj> awe lisen
#4096 [22:28] <Awe_FruitCake> Im Here for help
#4097 [22:28] <Wug> I rather doubt it, unless you installed it specifically
#4098 [22:28] <mib_uztesj> Awe_FruitCake lOOK
#4099 [22:28] <Awe_FruitCake> 100k?
#4100 [22:28] <mib_uztesj> theres no school for anothr 2 days and i wanna play with a friend on a server, why not just fix your problem later ?
#4101 [22:28] <supdog14> can you help me try to install it by telling me the steps wug
#4102 [22:28] <mib_uztesj> is u make it public we wont be able to play together
#4103 [22:29] <Awe_FruitCake> OMFG!!!
#4104 [22:29] <Wug> supdog14: download it from here (its the last one in the list I think)
#4105 [22:29] <Wug> :j
#4106 [22:29] <mib_uztesj> what?
#4107 [22:29] <mib_uztesj> u mad bro?
#4108 [22:29] <Wug> ... wheres wugbot
#4109 [22:29] <Jovet> mib_uztesj: lay off of him please
#4110 [22:29] <mib_uztesj> dude i thought we were friend..
#4111 [22:29] <Jovet> mib_uztesj: if you guys know each other have this discussion in private
#4112 [22:29] <Awe_FruitCake> I dont wanna freaking play minecraft atm
#4113 [22:29] <mib_uztesj> what jovet i am just trying to ask if he wants to play
#4114 [22:29] <Awe_FruitCake> i dont know HIM!!!!
#4115 [22:29] <mib_uztesj> wow OKE jesus
#4116 [22:29] <Wug> umm.
#4117 [22:29] <Awe_FruitCake> he think im his friend and i dont know him!!
#4118 [22:30] <Wug> ?poke
#4119 [22:30] <Wug> ;poke
#4120 [22:30] <mib_uztesj> so we can get to know each other?
#4121 [22:30] <Jovet> Awe_FruitCake: welcome to the internet. lol
#4122 [22:30] <Awe_FruitCake> ....
#4123 [22:30] <supdog14> wug: whats the link
#4124 [22:30] <Wug> supdog14: hang on
#4125 [22:30] <Awe_FruitCake> He's Acting Like a Pedo
#4126 [22:30] <supdog14> wug: k
#4127 [22:30] <mib_uztesj> gosh damit dude
#4128 [22:30] <mib_uztesj> gosh damit dude
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#4131 [22:30] <mib_uztesj> wow look like someones hate everyone and doesnt know what friends mean
#4132 [22:30] <mib_uztesj> anyways anyone else wanna play?
#4133 [22:31] <Awe_FruitCake> you know what, FUCK this. Im not getting any help WHAT SO EVER so seya
#4134 [22:31] * AuBot kicked Awe_FruitCake from #minecrafthelp (Reason: we_FruitCake :Please keep it civil.)
#4135 [22:31] <Jovet> mib_uztesj: go to #smp if you want to find servers to play on.
#4136 [22:31] <mib_uztesj> anyone have a server that they would like to play on? with me
#4137 [22:31] <mib_uztesj> meh
#4138 [22:31] <mib_uztesj> wait
#4139 [22:31] <mib_uztesj> eh
#4140 [22:31] <mib_uztesj> nah i am banned from ther
#4141 [22:31] <Jovet> gee, I wonder why.
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#4143 [22:31] <mib_uztesj> not my fual my friend wen on and spammed it
#4144 [22:32] <Wug> ;dequiet wugbot
#4145 [22:32] <mib_uztesj> jovet u have a server place?
#4146 [22:32] <TheNytangel_> Wug!
#4147 [22:32] <mib_uztesj> server
#4148 [22:32] <mib_uztesj> ?
#4149 [22:32] <mib_uztesj> HUH
#4150 [22:32] <Wug> -.-
#4151 [22:32] <Wug> :j
#4152 [22:32] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#4153 [22:32] <Jovet> mib_uztesj: go away
#4154 [22:32] <mib_uztesj> dawm u mad bro?
#4155 [22:32] <Wug> supdog14: ^
#4156 [22:32] <mib_uztesj> u guys are all just mad i am out
#4157 [22:32] * Wug kicked mib_uztesj from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_uztesj :mib_uztesj)
#4158 [22:32] <supdog14> wug:yes
#4159 [22:32] <Jovet> thank you
#4160 [22:32] <Wug> supdog14: java download link
#4161 [22:33] <supdog14> wug:k i see it
#4162 [22:34] <supdog14> wug: do i get the x64 rpm
#4163 [22:34] <Wug> supdog14: you're on windows right?
#4164 [22:34] <supdog14> linux
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#4166 [22:35] <supdog14> wug: i have linux
#4167 [22:36] <Wug> supdog14: ok, grab the rpm then
#4168 [22:36] <Wug> though now that you say that I suspect that its probably a graphics driver issue rather than java
#4169 [22:37] <supdog14> wug: i'm download it now
#4170 [22:38] <supdog14> 5 mins left
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#4172 [22:39] <lostdemouse> anyone can solve java crash?
#4173 [22:39] <Wug> lostdemouse: havent you been here every day for like a week
#4174 [22:39] <lostdemouse> yes but i got my mc finally o.o
#4175 [22:39] <Wug> if you have a 32 bit computer than you can't fix out of memory errors
#4176 [22:39] <lostdemouse> meh
#4177 [22:40] <Wug> try turning the view distance down
#4178 [22:40] <lostdemouse> 0.0 ok
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#4180 [22:41] <supdog14> wug would 64 rpm work without problems
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#4182 [22:42] <Wug> supdog14: yes
#4183 [22:42] <mr_boo> i deleted the alternate.png file for the enchantment thing and now minecraft wont run, HELP PLEASE!
#4184 [22:43] <Jovet> mr_boo: start the client, click Options, then Force Update.
#4185 [22:43] <Wug> :fu
#4186 [22:43] <WugBot> fu: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4187 [22:43] <WugBot> fu: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#4188 [22:44] <mr_boo> you are a life saver, thanks!
#4189 [22:44] <supdog14> wug its done downloading what do i do now
#4190 [22:44] <TheNytangel> Wug, no. Fu
#4191 [22:44] <Jovet> Wug no foo'? hah
#4192 [22:46] <supdog14> wug its done downloading what do i do now
#4193 [22:47] <Scott> Kealper: ever heard of this artist? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCPlkVgMUDw
#4194 [22:47] <Wug> supdog14: you'd want to install it
#4195 [22:47] <Wug> depending on what distribution you're on you can probably do that by double clicking it
#4196 [22:48] <Wug> Wug Foo.
#4197 [22:48] <Kealper> Scott: nope :o
#4198 [22:48] <Scott> I think I will buy that EP o.o
#4199 [22:49] <Kealper> lol
#4200 [22:50] * Jovet hates to see people standing on railroad tracks. :-/
#4200 [22:50] <Scott> I need to put my music back on my mac.
#4201 [22:50] <Scott> it's on an encrypted drive somewhere
#4202 [22:51] <supdog14> wug when i open it,it goes to media player
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#4204 [22:51] <Wug> supdog14: is there an option to open it with a package manager
#4205 [22:52] <Wug> maybe in a right click menu somewhere
#4206 [22:57] * N3RD1001101 [N3RD1001101@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4207 [22:57] <supdog14> wug it does not say that it says archive manager
#4208 [22:58] <N3RD1001101> hey guys got a question... if someone buys minecraft now, are they still entitled to free updates, as those that purchased MC in beta were?
#4209 [22:58] <supdog14> wug download mikogo so you can see my screen
#4210 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> N3RD1001101 - Yes
#4211 [22:59] <Jovet> GreyVulpine: indefinitely or?
#4212 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Pretty much
#4213 [23:00] <supdog14> wug download mikogo so you can see my screen
#4214 [23:00] <N3RD1001101> sweet cause some sites were saying that only those who purchased it in beta were entitled to updates
#4215 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> They're wrong
#4216 [23:00] <N3RD1001101> awesome, buying a copy for my bro now. :)
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#4218 [23:00] <m> can someone direct me to bukkit?
#4219 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> #bukkit
#4220 [23:01] <Wug> lol
#4221 [23:01] <supdog14> wug download mikogo so you can see my screen
#4222 [23:01] <Wug> supdog14: stop repeating yourself
#4223 [23:01] <supdog14> wug sorry
#4224 [23:01] <Wug> I do not exclusively read this channel
#4225 [23:02] <supdog14> wug oh
#4226 [23:02] <Wug> I'm in 30 more
#4227 [23:02] <Wug> ish
#4228 [23:03] <Wug> supdog14: which distro are you on
#4229 [23:03] <supdog14> wug what that me
#4230 [23:03] <Wug> what version of linux are you using
#4231 [23:03] <supdog14> i don't know about my computer that much
#4232 [23:05] <Jovet> and you're using Linux? %-o
#4233 [23:06] <Kealper> if he doesn't know, he's on Ubuntu...
#4234 [23:07] <supdog14> my friend put linux on my computer and its so different from windos so i don't know much about it
#4235 [23:07] <Scott> Wug: 3.0.0-13-generic
#4236 [23:07] * Sennoytai called it ! XD
#4236 [23:07] <Jovet> he's not your friend. lol
#4237 [23:08] <Scott> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9631803/Screenshots/35u7.png this is going to take forever. :(
#4238 [23:08] <Scott> I've got like 3000 songs/30GB to transfer
#4239 [23:08] * Sennoytai sticks a trollmask on Jovet|AFK
#4239 [23:08] <Wug> lol 1MB/s
#4240 [23:09] <Scott> The files are small.
#4241 [23:09] <Scott> The computers are connected at 300mbit/sec
#4242 [23:09] <Wug> supdog14: can you download the .deb from the page instead?
#4243 [23:09] <Wug> :j
#4244 [23:09] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#4245 [23:09] <Kealper> Scott: that is over network? eew those speeds are slow
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#4247 [23:10] <Scott> Kealper: yep.
#4248 [23:10] <Scott> the files are only like 10mb each though
#4249 [23:10] * TheNytangel [TheNytangel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4250 [23:10] <Scott> that is why it isn't going faster lol
#4251 [23:10] * Kealper copies an album over to his laptop off his server to test
#4251 [23:10] <Scott> i'm using scp
#4252 [23:10] <Wug> I get high speeds on megabyte files typically
#4253 [23:11] <Scott> I doubt it would be faster if I were to connect the 2 together via gigabit ethernet
#4254 [23:11] <Wug> Scott: tar
#4255 [23:11] <Scott> nah
#4256 [23:11] <Scott> i'm not in a hurry lol
#4257 [23:11] <supdog14> wug can u just download mikogo it would be easier
#4258 [23:11] <Scott> You want someone to download some software they don't usually use to help you?
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#4260 [23:12] <Wug> supdog14: I'm not up for it tonight
#4261 [23:12] <Wug> I have to pack and stuff so I can be on a train all day tomorrow
#4262 [23:12] <Wug> please try the .deb
#4263 [23:12] <Scott> There isn't a .deb btw
#4264 [23:12] <Scott> just a RPM and binary installer
#4265 [23:12] <supdog14> uh
#4266 [23:12] <Kealper> Scott: that totally just went at like 12MB/s for me :/
#4267 [23:13] <Scott> seriously? lol
#4268 [23:13] <Kealper> yep
#4269 [23:13] <Scott> each file individually?
#4270 [23:13] <Kealper> and it was basically the same music too... just transfered the 3oh!3 albumb
#4271 [23:13] <Scott> lol
#4272 [23:13] <Kealper> album*
#4273 [23:13] <Sennoytai> supdog14: need to find out what Linux you have? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/find-linux-distribution-name-version-number/
#4274 [23:14] <Wug> supdog14: grab the one for linux x64 thats just a .bin
#4275 [23:14] <Scott> I guess you could use alien to convert the RPM though
#4276 [23:14] <Wug> Sennoytai: we're updating
#4277 [23:14] <Kealper> and that is why..... wireless sucks, even if it claims to be 3x faster than the wired link i have going right now ._.
#4278 [23:14] <Sennoytai> ah.
#4279 [23:15] <Sennoytai> Kealper: indeed. im debating getting an ethernet-box and crimper.
#4280 [23:16] <Wug> Scott: wireless N isnt rated for 300mb/s on a single channel
#4281 [23:16] <Wug> it actually supports a maximum of 300mb/s of transfer, which in order to hit that ceiling, must be distributed over several connections
#4282 [23:17] * Kealper redoes said transfer with his wireless radio
#4282 [23:17] <Wug> Kealper: 1200 baud
#4283 [23:17] <Kealper> Wug: don't tempt me, i've got ham radio packet equiptment in my room right now, and it can go down to 300 baud lol
#4284 [23:18] <Scott> My network is setup correctly. I only have wireless N clients and they're capable of channel bonding.
#4285 [23:18] <Wug> Kealper: emulate 75 baud
#4286 [23:18] <Kealper> lol
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#4288 [23:18] * Kealper pulls his ethernet cable out
#4288 [23:18] <Scott> My entire network is wireless now.
#4289 [23:18] <Wug> Scott: why would you do that D:
#4290 [23:19] <Scott> because the only non-portable device is on the other side of the house?
#4291 [23:19] <Scott> which uses wifi too
#4292 [23:20] * mib_n4dig6 [mib_n4dig6@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4293 [23:20] <Wug> wireless is convenient but its not as good as wired
#4294 [23:20] <Wug> wired is lower latency and faster
#4295 [23:20] <Scott> But in most cases it is more than sufficient.
#4296 [23:20] <mib_n4dig6> Hi, would anyone be able to help me with buying minecraft? I tried with my debit visa card but it won't let me.
#4297 [23:20] <Scott> mib_n4dig6: Who is your bank?
#4298 [23:21] <Kealper> hmm....
#4299 [23:21] <mib_n4dig6> bank of america.
#4300 [23:21] <Kealper> wireless is not good in my house D:
#4301 [23:21] <Kealper> was just getting 600KB/s transfer for the same songs that time lol
#4302 [23:21] <Kealper> router is at the other end of a rather long house :/
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#4304 [23:21] <mib_n4dig6> then it says after I hit ok "thanks for buying minecraft" but.. Its been days and no update.
#4305 [23:21] <Wug> I can get 6MB/s over wireless G if transferring to a wired node
#4306 [23:22] <Scott> Call BoA customer care at: 1.800.432.1000 Monday from 8 am to 10 pm local time.
#4307 [23:22] <Wug> which is fairly optimal for a 54mb/s ceiling
#4308 [23:22] <mib_n4dig6> then i tried to set up another account, in which I used the same email and now it wont let me login to either of them.
#4309 [23:22] <mib_n4dig6> really they help with minecraft?
#4310 [23:22] <Wug> mib_n4dig6: the issue is they're stopping the international payment
#4311 [23:22] <Scott> Your card is being declined because it's an international transaction.
#4312 [23:22] <Daniel> Whenever i use the launcher i get this: <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument: connect</center></font></body></html> and i cant connect to minecraft.net. help?
#4313 [23:23] <Kealper> that was weird, "international" was lined up on my monospaced font
#4314 [23:23] <Wug> Daniel: try disabling your firewalls
#4315 [23:23] <Scott> Daniel: disable your antivirus stuff
#4316 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> wug, invalid argument
#4317 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> malware
#4318 [23:23] <Daniel> ty will try it
#4319 [23:23] <Wug> GreyVulpine: wha
#4320 [23:23] <Kealper> ^
#4321 [23:23] <mib_n4dig6> I will try that. Thank you.
#4322 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> oh wait.. one sec
#4323 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> It's either malware, or java 7
#4324 [23:24] <Daniel> oh
#4325 [23:24] <mib_n4dig6> I can't use it for another 24 hours though, I wonder if I should try paypal? or will it still recognize it as the same credit card?
#4326 [23:24] <Wug> GreyVulpine: firewalls dont do that?
#4327 [23:24] <Daniel> i literally installed java 7 then got the error
#4328 [23:24] <Wug> GreyVulpine: nice call
#4329 [23:24] <Scott> mib_n4dig6: it won't matter. paypal will abide by your card issuer restrictions
#4330 [23:24] <Wug> Daniel: uninstall java 7
#4331 [23:24] <Wug> use 6 for minecraft
#4332 [23:25] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: you scare me some times :o
#4333 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> :P
#4334 [23:25] <Wug> Daniel: firewall issues do the same thing iirc
#4335 [23:25] <Wug> its just that java 7 has the same failure mde
#4336 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> socketexception: connection refused, or timed out is firewall
#4337 [23:25] <Scott> Can you install multiple version of Java on Windows?
#4338 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> Invalid argument, is java 7
#4339 [23:25] <Wug> oh. huh
#4340 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> There was that other error that was because of malware, can't remember, was very close to invalid argument
#4341 [23:26] <Wug> you mean the one relevant knowledge does?
#4342 [23:26] <Scott> We should get people to run malwarebytes and install MSE before they leave lol
#4343 [23:26] <Kealper> lol
#4344 [23:27] <Wug> iirc relevant knowledge causes some sort of hangup when downloading the jars
#4345 [23:27] <Wug> but it will allow you to connect and begin the download
#4346 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Wug -Yeah
#4347 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Oh right, it was "Address family not supported by protocol family: connect"
#4348 [23:27] <Wug> I've actually teamviewered someone who had relevent knowledge so I got to see its effects firsthand
#4349 [23:28] * GreyVulpine rebookmarks http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/587899-failed-to-launch-fatal-error-occured-4/
#4349 [23:28] <Wug> nice catch with the invalid argument thing
#4350 [23:28] <Wug> I didnt make that connection
#4351 [23:28] <Scott> Do you think anyone would actually follow the instructions if I created a "guide" for installing MSE and running malwarebytes?
#4352 [23:28] * GreyVulpine nods, had it a few times before
#4352 [23:28] <Kealper> Wug: autofactoid add, GOGOGO
#4353 [23:28] * Wug socketexception failed to connect
#4353 [23:29] <Kealper> Scott: dunno
#4354 [23:29] <Kealper> bigger question
#4355 [23:29] <Kealper> how many people will fail the genuine advantage check when installing MSE?
#4356 [23:29] <Scott> I'll send them to ubuntu.com
#4357 [23:29] <Kealper> or rather.... how many people will pass it.. that should be easier to read
#4358 [23:29] <Kealper> lol
#4359 [23:30] <Scott> or the microsoft store
#4360 [23:30] <Kealper> lol
#4361 [23:30] <Scott> Microsoft opened it's first retail store
#4362 [23:30] <Scott> They hired a DJ.
#4363 [23:30] <Scott> The DJ used a macbook.
#4364 [23:30] <Wug> ;+ derpjava Java 7 does not always work with minecraft. If you have issues after installing java 7, revert back to java 6.
#4365 [23:30] <WugBot> Done.
#4366 [23:30] <Wug> ;af-addstring derpjava <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument: connect</center></font></body></html>
#4367 [23:30] <WugBot> "<html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>failed to update news<br>java.net.socketexception: invalid argument: connect</center></font></body></html>" added to entry for "derpjava".
#4368 [23:30] <Scott> They put a sticker on the back to hide the apple logo.
#4369 [23:31] <Kealper> Scott: rofl
#4370 [23:31] <Wug> Scott: lolwell
#4371 [23:31] <Wug> dont djs all use macbooks
#4372 [23:31] <Wug> well mostly anyway
#4373 [23:31] <Kealper> hey guys, i'm getting some testing done and i get the error java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument: connect
#4374 [23:31] <Scott> http://cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/microsoftstore-macdjlg.jpg
#4375 [23:31] <Kealper> y u no trigger
#4376 [23:31] <Scott> It's still funny.
#4377 [23:31] <Wug> ;af-addstring derpjava i get the error java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument: connect
#4378 [23:31] <WugBot> "i get the error java.net.socketexception: invalid argument: connect" added to entry for "derpjava".
#4379 [23:32] <Wug> I need to work on its database
#4380 [23:32] <Kealper> hey guys, i'm getting some testing done and i get the error java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument: connect
#4381 [23:32] <WugBot> Kealper: (derpjava) Java 7 does not always work with minecraft. If you have issues after installing java 7, revert back to java 6.
#4382 [23:32] <Wug> it has several shortcomings
#4383 [23:32] <Wug> wugbot, how do I download java 6?
#4384 [23:32] <Wug> ;af-addstring j how do I download java 6?
#4385 [23:32] <WugBot> "how do i download java 6?" added to entry for "j".
#4386 [23:32] <Wug> wugbot, how do I download java 6?
#4387 [23:32] <WugBot> Wug: (j) Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#4388 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> ¿ɐʌɐɾ ʇsǝʇɐן ǝɥʇ pɐoןuʍop ı op ʍoɥ 'ʇoqƃnʍ ʎʇɥƃıɯןɐ
#4389 [23:33] <Kealper> lol
#4390 [23:33] <Wug> I'm not adding that
#4391 [23:33] * GreyVulpine pffts
#4391 [23:33] <Wug> mibblets cant speak backwards
#4392 [23:33] <Kealper> ;af-addstring j ¿ɐʌɐɾ ʇsǝʇɐן ǝɥʇ pɐoןuʍop ı op ʍoɥ
#4393 [23:33] <WugBot> "¿ɐʌɐɾ ʇsǝʇɐן ǝɥʇ pɐoןuʍop ı op ʍoɥ" added to entry for "j".
#4394 [23:33] <Wug> dearest wugglybot, where can I download java?
#4395 [23:33] <WugBot> Wug: (j) Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#4396 [23:33] <Kealper> >:D
#4397 [23:34] <Wug> ¿ɐʌɐɾ ʇsǝʇɐן ǝɥʇ pɐoןuʍop ı op ʍoɥ 'ʇoqƃnʍ ʎʇɥƃıɯןɐ
#4398 [23:34] <WugBot> Wug: (j) Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#4399 [23:34] <Wug> oh well
#4400 [23:34] <Wug> its not like wugbots database isnt a flat file anyway, unicodes wont bork it
#4401 [23:34] <Kealper> flatfile dbs ftw
#4402 [23:34] <Wug> (are there any unicode characters that have newline codes in them)
#4403 [23:34] <Kealper> bonus points for using an ini file
#4404 [23:34] <Wug> that would break things
#4405 [23:35] <Wug> ;af test j where can I download java 6?
#4406 [23:35] <WugBot> Match strength: 0.477651
#4407 [23:35] <Wug> not bad
#4408 [23:35] <Kealper> ;af test where do i go to download java 6?
#4409 [23:35] <Wug> ;af test narwhals narwhals narwhals swimming in the ocean
#4410 [23:35] <WugBot> Match strength: 0.570623
#4411 [23:36] <Wug> af is restricted :o
#4412 [23:36] <Wug> ;alias new af-test
#4413 [23:36] <WugBot> Blank alias af-test created.
#4414 [23:36] <Kealper> ;af test derp.
#4415 [23:36] <Kealper> :<
#4416 [23:36] <Wug> ;alias add af-test module autofactoid test &0
#4417 [23:36] <zkxs> ;af test causing a commotion
#4418 [23:36] <Wug> ;command af-test 0
#4419 [23:36] <WugBot> Command af-test has been given userlevel requirement 0.
#4420 [23:36] <`Kelby> how do i dye sheep?
#4421 [23:36] <Kealper> ;af-test derp
#4422 [23:36] <WugBot> Match strength: 0
#4423 [23:36] <Kealper> \o/
#4424 [23:37] <Wug> ;af-test narwhals narwhals narwhals swimming in the ocean
#4425 [23:37] <WugBot> Match strength: 0.5706
#4426 [23:37] <zkxs> right click on them with a dye
#4427 [23:37] <Sennoytai> ;af-test computer on fire
#4428 [23:37] <WugBot> Match strength: 0
#4429 [23:37] <Sennoytai> :P
#4430 [23:37] <`Kelby> i didnt know that the wool doesnt grow back. can i still dye them even though theyre bald?
#4431 [23:37] <clarjon1> ;af-test my java is borked
#4432 [23:37] <WugBot> Match strength: 0
#4433 [23:38] <Wug> ;alias sethelp af-test Usage: af-test <factoid> <string to test ...> -- Prints the match strength of a factoid for a string from the autofactoid database.
#4434 [23:38] <Sennoytai> `Kelby: dying wool changes what wool they have 'equiped'. dying a bald sheep does nothing
#4435 [23:38] <clarjon1> oooo
#4436 [23:38] <Wug> ;af-test j where do I get java
#4437 [23:38] <WugBot> Match strength: 0.292309
#4438 [23:38] <b0xxy> anyone play skyrim?
#4439 [23:38] <b0xxy> watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1j-EyBNZozE#!
#4440 [23:38] <Sennoytai> `Kelby: you can dye white wool, or bleach colored to white (with bonemeal)
#4441 [23:38] <clarjon1> ;af-test j java broke
#4442 [23:38] <WugBot> Match strength: 0.0277176
#4443 [23:38] <`Kelby> damn.
#4444 [23:38] <`Kelby> if i breed bald sheep will they make wooly sheep?
#4445 [23:38] <Sennoytai> `Kelby: you can have the sheep breed :D
#4446 [23:38] <Sennoytai> yes they will.
#4447 [23:38] <Wug> ;af-addstring j where do I get java
#4448 [23:38] <WugBot> "where do i get java" added to entry for "j".
#4449 [23:38] <`Kelby> thank you
#4450 [23:38] <Wug> ;af-test j where do I get java
#4451 [23:38] <WugBot> Match strength: 0.397858
#4452 [23:38] <Sennoytai> and if you breed sheep of the same color, they make that color sheep
#4453 [23:39] <Wug> I wonder
#4454 [23:39] <Sennoytai> atleast.. i heard such. havent tested it yet
#4455 [23:39] <Wug> if you breed 2 different colors, do you get a random choice, or an average
#4456 [23:39] * Kealper breaks out the punnet squares
#4456 [23:39] <Wug> genetically, you'd get a random choice
#4457 [23:39] * Sennoytai wants to breed yellow sheep :P
#4457 [23:39] <Wug> and programmatically, getting an average would be really hard
#4458 [23:40] <Wug> because of indexed colors and all
#4459 [23:40] <Wug> so its probably the random choice
#4460 [23:40] <zkxs> bonus points for notch if he implements dominant and recessive and uses mendel squares
#4461 [23:40] <`Kelby> i just want a pen full of dumb colored sheep
#4462 [23:40] <Sennoytai> lol
#4463 [23:40] * abekh [abekh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4464 [23:41] <Wug> lol
#4465 [23:41] <Wug> class MendleSquare
#4466 [23:41] <Wug> void GenerateRandomGenotype(Entity mother, Entity father) {
#4467 [23:41] <Sennoytai> lol
#4468 [23:42] <Kealper> this is java, it'd be more like class mendelSquareFactory.FactoryFactorySquare.MendelFactory.square()
#4469 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> Imagine if you could get Toady one from Dwarf fortress to team up with Notch and his team. All the complexity of DF, but with the playability of Minecraft
#4470 [23:42] <abekh> hi, i have just purchased a license ... if that is what you call it, i got confirmation, but now i can't log in to my account??
#4471 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Can't log in how?
#4472 [23:43] <Wug> if (MendelSquareFactory.getMendelSquare.setParent(mother).setParent(father).randomize().createmob().canspawn(x, y, z)) { MendelSquareFactory.getMendelSquare.setParent(mother).setParent(father).randomize().createMob().joinWorld(world); }
#4473 [23:44] <Wug> somehow wastes like 50 object allocations
#4474 [23:44] <Wug> one hit on that line allocates over 200kb of heap space
#4475 [23:44] <Wug> of course, its in the main loop
#4476 [23:44] <abekh> it sais "Oops, unknown username or password. "
#4477 [23:45] <Wug> abekh: what do you think is wrong then
#4478 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> abekh - Clear your browser's cache and temp files
#4479 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> It's a known issue.
#4480 [23:45] <Wug> I didnt have to do anything the time it happened to me, it just went away
#4481 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> I just got that this morning. Worked on one computer, didn't work on a seperate computer, at the same time
#4482 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Cleared the cache on the one that wasn't working, and it worked again
#4483 [23:46] <Wug> and it turned out I wasnt getting an auth token from the website because I was using user= instead of username=
#4484 [23:46] <abekh> i can't log in from another browser from another computer either ...
#4485 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> abekh - Clear your browser's cache
#4486 [23:46] <Wug> abekh: can you log in to a client
#4487 [23:47] <abekh> ok will try clearting the cache ... will keep you poseted brb.
#4488 [23:48] <gerzel> For version 1.0 in multiplayer our server has lost structures built in the nether several times is there a known bug out for this? Any one know?
#4489 [23:48] <Wug> did the server crash?
#4490 [23:48] <gerzel> No
#4491 [23:49] <gerzel> server stable players online
#4492 [23:49] * iSeePanties [iSeePanties@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4493 [23:49] <Wug> is this vanilla?
#4494 [23:49] <Wug> I havent heard of any bugs like that
#4495 [23:49] <gerzel> yesterday I built a large set of buildings around the first portal in the nether. Today they were gone along with the roads I built. It is vanilla so far
#4496 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> save-on.. on?
#4497 [23:50] <gerzel> today I went back and started putting down more soil... Not sure. Not admin
#4498 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> Was the server restarted between yesterday and today?
#4499 [23:50] * Crus [Crus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4500 [23:50] * Brad [Brad@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4501 [23:50] <Crus> Hello there.
#4502 [23:51] <Wug> gerzel: you're absolutely quite sure you're building in the same place
#4503 [23:51] <iSeePanties> if i give a friend a code to redeem, will i be sent an email telling me that he redeemed it
#4504 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> No, but you'll see who redeemed the code in your profile page at minecraft.net
#4505 [23:52] <Wug> iSeePanties: no, but you'll see their name in the profile page. ninjad
#4506 [23:52] <iSeePanties> thanks!
#4507 [23:52] <gerzel> Wug : YEs same coords, same geography. the terrain is the same, unmodified. Any digging and/or building is gone. Blocks I've taken out and put into storage on the normal world are still there.
#4508 [23:52] <Brad> I Try To Run Minecraft And It Doesnt Work The Screen Just Goes Black
#4509 [23:53] <gerzel> It happened as second time removing the dirt I put down. In the space of an hour with two players logged in and chatting the entire time
#4510 [23:53] <Wug> gerzel: I'd ask the admins about it
#4511 [23:53] <Wug> if you havent already
#4512 [23:53] <gerzel> Ah the server reboots 6am pacific
#4513 [23:53] <gerzel> They are aware.
#4514 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> It sounds a lot like the server doesn't have save-on set
#4515 [23:53] <gerzel> I'm checking for known bugs
#4516 [23:53] <Wug> maybe a backup was restored or something
#4517 [23:53] <Wug> I don't think I have heard of any bugs that large
#4518 [23:54] <gerzel> It happened a second time.
#4519 [23:54] <gerzel> And save on is verified to be set
#4520 [23:54] <Wug> also as grey pointed out, you can do this as desired behavior with /save-off
#4521 [23:54] <gerzel> For nether only?
#4522 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Or even, with setting the region files to be read-only
#4523 [23:54] <Wug> maybe the nether is deleted manually
#4524 [23:54] <Wug> because an admin thinks nobody is doing anything there or something
#4525 [23:55] <Wug> to save disk space
#4526 [23:55] <Crus> Lol. My father's computer has 6 gigs of ram. I'm so jellie. My computer only has 2. :L
#4527 [23:55] <clarjon1> Yeah, you'd have to talk to your admin about what's going on.
#4528 [23:55] <iSeePanties> uhh another question.. is the only way to play multiplayer through making a server? i just want to play with a friend and was wondering if i could just.. type his ip
#4529 [23:55] <Wug> iSeePanties: you need a server
#4530 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> I've had a couple of times when a server's admin's script set a readonly flag to on, to prevent world corruption during a backup, and it never set it back
#4531 [23:55] <Coll> did they nerf slime spawn rates?
#4532 [23:55] <iSeePanties> okk thanks for the help bye
#4533 [23:56] <Wug> Coll: I'm not sure, does the wiki say anything?
#4534 [23:56] <Crus> iSeePanties: your friend also needs to forward his port.
#4535 [23:56] <Crus> nevermind. :L
#4536 [23:56] <Coll> no
#4537 [23:56] <Wug> chances are they're the same then
#4538 [23:56] <Coll> on a smp server and I am supossidly on 2 slime chunks
#4539 [23:56] <Wug> however mob spawning mechanics may have changed
#4540 [23:56] <Coll> nothing is spawning
#4541 [23:56] <Crus> I think they are the same.
#4542 [23:56] <Coll> not even other mobs
#4543 [23:56] <Coll> not sure why
#4544 [23:56] <Wug> is the server vanilla?
#4545 [23:56] <Crus> wait, you mean NO mobs spawned?
#4546 [23:56] <Coll> bukkit
#4547 [23:56] <Coll> no mobs are spawning right now
#4548 [23:57] <Wug> could be a plugin
#4549 [23:57] <Coll> nope
#4550 [23:57] <Coll> mobs spawn else where
#4551 [23:57] <Crus> hrm.
#4552 [23:57] <gerzel> Yeah after some testing right now when I leave the nether and come back anything that has been built or changed is gone
#4553 [23:57] <gerzel> Might be a permission issue
#4554 [23:57] <Crus> well, I've actually seen like 3 different slimes in my hardcore map.
#4555 [23:57] <Wug> there are a hundred reasons a plugin might prevent it from working
#4556 [23:57] <gerzel> something that came up with the rested
#4557 [23:57] <gerzel> reset rather
#4558 [23:57] <Wug> one of them is the server might be hiding the seed
#4559 [23:58] <Coll> well the plugins they have now should not in anyway affect mobs
#4560 [23:58] <Coll> also I put together the server so I know what it is it
#4561 [23:58] <Wug> nonetheless, its probably a plugin doing something unexpected
#4562 [23:58] <Wug> join #bukkit and ask them about it
#4563 [23:58] <Wug> make sure to list the plugins you're using
#4564 [23:59] <Crus> wug, who owns voxelbot?
#4565 [23:59] <Wug> voxelHEAD is DopeGhoti's
#4566 [23:59] <clarjon1> that would be DopeGhoti
#4567 [23:59] <Wug> there is no voxelbot
#4568 [23:59] <clarjon1> damn, ninja'd lol
#4569 [23:59] <Crus> Ahh. Oh, I thought I saw voxelbot.