#1 [00:00] <pwhitaker> I am not trying to install a tex pack. I am trying to install minecraft the game.
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#3 [00:01] <gunther> my .minecraft dose have anything in it and it wont download the .minecraft floder
#4 [00:02] <langkid1> gunther, please describe in greater detail, this time with understandable english
#5 [00:04] * langkid1 takes a torch and burns trolls
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#6 [00:13] <|Kiichan|> langkid1: the game supports 16x16.
#7 [00:14] <|Kiichan|> langkid1|Away: any higher requires mods and usually alot more ram
#8 [00:14] <|Kiichan|> pwhitaker: are you getting other errors or messages? what exactly is happening?
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#11 [00:19] <pwhitaker> I was getting an error that stated something like "a problem occurred with javaw.exe and had to close. It would not install. I went online and download updated drivers for my graphics card and tried again. I am no longer getting message. When I go to install I get to login screen. I log in and it seems to update, but I just get a black screen.
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#13 [00:19] <johnii> I'm running a local server but am having a problem with stuck blocks that won't be destructed for resources
#14 [00:19] <johnii> anyone else had that happen?
#15 [00:20] <|Kiichan|> johnii: yes. usually to non-ops in the spawn area
#16 [00:20] <johnii> Kitchen, is there something I can do about it?
#17 [00:20] <revilo> are there any plans on implementing a way to change the game mode for all players within the client? I'm running my own server and find it cumbersome to have to restart every time
#18 [00:21] <|Kiichan|> yes.. you can not call me kitchen ~.~ and op yourself in the console with op <playername>
#19 [00:21] <johnii> Kiichan, I am SOO sorry. omg!
#20 [00:22] <|Kiichan|> revilo: for ALL players? dont know of a command there. but you cahn change each individual players starte with /gamemode <player> 0/1
#21 [00:22] <|Kiichan|> 0 = survival 1 = creative
#22 [00:22] <|Kiichan|> johnii: dont sweat it too much. it happens from time to time :P
#23 [00:23] <johnii> Kiichan, thanks but that was really lame of me. :P
#24 [00:23] <johnii> Kiichan,AND you fixed my issue. :) Is that going to be a problem for anyone who isn't an op?
#25 [00:23] <|Kiichan|> johnii: yes. its part of the game code. only ops can mess around with the spawn area.
#26 [00:24] <revilo> yeah I know about that one. thanks. it seems like they could add quite a few more options to the default server console without requiring plugins...
#27 [00:24] <revilo> (and restarting)
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#29 [00:24] <johnii> Kiichan, ok cool. thanks for the help!
#30 [00:25] <|Kiichan|> revilo: um.. you can change the default mode to creative...
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#32 [00:25] <whitefire> hi
#33 [00:26] <revilo> yeah, but don't you have to restart for it to affect all of the players?
#34 [00:26] <revilo> I'm talking about editing the server.properties file
#35 [00:26] <|Kiichan|> yes, but if your just running a creative server instead of a survival server then its a one-time change
#36 [00:27] <|Kiichan|> whitefire: ellos :P
#37 [00:27] <revilo> I just wish you could change that (and more things) on the fly from the console instead of editing a file and restarting
#38 [00:28] <revilo> everyone wouldn't have to reconnect
#39 [00:28] <revilo> right?
#40 [00:28] <revilo> (I'm new to minecraft)
#41 [00:29] <|Kiichan|> revilo: changing server.properties requires a restart of the server to load the new properties. you could always just give everyone you trust to be in creative mode Op so they can change their own setting
#42 [00:32] <pwhitaker> Could it be my graphics are? I have an ATI Radeon 9550.
#43 [00:32] <revilo> ohhhh. I didn't know you could access the console directly in the client...have been using ssh in a terminal window to use the console. much easier lol
#44 [00:33] <|Kiichan|> pwhitaker: you install any mods or texture packs?
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#46 [00:34] <|Kiichan|> pwhitaker: and you got your video drivers either from amd/ati's site or your computer manufacturers?
#47 [00:34] <pwhitaker> No I am just trying to install minecraft 1.0
#48 [00:35] <pwhitaker> I got drivers off of AMD website
#49 [00:35] <|Kiichan|> pwhitaker: what version of java do you have installed?
#50 [00:38] <pwhitaker> I also uninstalled the have I had and reinstalled java off web. I have version 6 w/ update 29 installed.
#51 [00:40] <|Kiichan|> ok. your os 32bit or 64 bit? and have the corresponding java?
#52 [00:43] <pwhitaker> My is is windows xp home edition. Not sure if it is 32 or 64 though. I do know the drivers I downloaded idicated it was for both though.
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#54 [00:43] <Destikahr> Cant get minecraft to run on windows 7 32 bit
#55 [00:44] <Destikahr> it says that opengl and be accessed, tried running it in compatability modes, still doesn't fix it. also it says I need updated video drivers, and they are fully up to date, so is java
#56 [00:45] <pwhitaker> Sorry for typos. I iPhone keeps changing my text.
#57 [00:46] <|Kiichan|> pwhitaker: ok your probably 32bit then. 64bit xp is rare.
#58 [00:46] <|Kiichan|> ??> pwhitaker forceupdate
#59 [00:46] <VoxelHead> pwhitaker: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#60 [00:46] <VoxelHead> pwhitaker: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#61 [00:47] <Destikahr> I'm 32
#62 [00:47] <|Kiichan|> Destikahr: you need to update your video drivers.. do you know how?
#63 [00:47] <Destikahr> ya Actually I just reinstalled them. no effect
#64 [00:47] <Destikahr> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#65 [00:47] <|Kiichan|> Destikahr: now... did you update them using windows update?
#66 [00:48] <Destikahr> running radeon x1950
#67 [00:48] <Destikahr> no direct site download
#68 [00:48] <|Kiichan|> hmm...
#69 [00:48] <Destikahr> windows update never updates anything LOL
#70 [00:49] <pwhitaker> I tried that too. It appeared to be installing, but when I logged in I just got a black screen. Nothing ever happened.
#71 [00:49] <Destikahr> I cant play the web version either
#72 [00:49] <Wug> Scott: got a minute
#73 [00:49] <|Kiichan|> Destikahr: actually they do get drivers... slow...
#74 [00:49] <Scott> No
#75 [00:49] <Scott> I just fucked up stuff and I'll be spending all night recreating it
#76 [00:49] * AuBot kicked Scott from #minecrafthelp (Reason: cott :Please keep it civil.)
#77 [00:49] <Wug> got 2 seconds? :P
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#79 [00:49] <|Kiichan|> Destikahr: i have a feeling your card doesnt have the opengl support minecraft needs
#80 [00:49] <whitefire> i need the link to the downloud for the artifact mod
#81 [00:50] <Wug> wha'd you break? can I fix it?
#82 [00:50] <Destikahr> hmm lemme look it up
#83 [00:50] <Destikahr> recent card so assuming since openGL is about 12 years old it can do that LOL
#84 [00:52] <|Kiichan|> Wug: wanna help here? :P
#85 [00:52] <|Kiichan|> HAH! that was the app. *cough*
#86 [00:52] <Wug> huh?
#87 [00:52] <Wug> w/w
#88 [00:53] <|Kiichan|> Destikahr: coudl you download this and check what is actually supported by your card? http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/
#89 [00:53] <|Kiichan|> Wug: pwhitaker is getting black screen, updated drivers, forceupdated, has.. *smack!*
#90 [00:53] <|Kiichan|> pwhitaker: does youe windows username happen to have an ! in it?
#91 [00:54] <pwhitaker> No it does not.
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#93 [00:55] <Wug> that usually causes can't connect issues
#94 [00:55] <|Kiichan|> im out of ideas then :/
#95 [00:55] <Wug> :ts/launcher
#96 [00:55] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#97 [00:55] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#98 [00:55] <Wug> run that and we'll read the error log
#99 [00:56] <whitefire> sory for my rude interuption, but i would rilly arprisheat it if i could get the link for the downloud to the artifact mod
#100 [00:56] <Wug> :mods > whitefire
#101 [00:56] <WugBot> whitefire: (mods) This channel provides support for the vanilla (unmodded) version of minecraft. If you are having trouble playing one of the first things we'll ask you to do is remove any texture packs or mods.
#102 [00:56] <WugBot> whitefire: (mods) Support for bukkit can be found in #bukkit. Most usually come with instructions, make sure you read them. Also, you can try youtube for video tutorials.
#103 [00:56] <Wug> see also
#104 [00:56] <Wug> :google
#105 [00:56] <Destikahr> it only passes at 1.2 8(
#106 [00:57] <whitefire> thx
#107 [00:57] <Destikahr> and showing no acceleration
#108 [00:57] <|Kiichan|> Destikahr: once you have glview open check you have atleast full 1.2 support and ARB_multitexture
#109 [00:57] <|Kiichan|> yah... what i thought.
#110 [00:57] <|Kiichan|> your probably missing the multitexture. and its been needed since 1.8 :/
#111 [00:58] <Destikahr> no seems values for all the ARB is 0
#112 [00:58] <pwhitaker> Did you want me to try to log in using that launcher?
#113 [00:58] <pwhitaker> Did you want me to try to log in using that launcher?
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#115 [00:59] <Destikahr> sad I need a new vid card for a block game lol
#116 [00:59] <Wug> pwhitaker: yes
#117 [00:59] <Destikahr> actually I downloaded 1.7 version to test and that didnt work either same problem
#118 [00:59] <|Kiichan|> Destikahr: the game will run much better with a new card anyway :P
#119 [01:00] <|Kiichan|> Destikahr: had you updated the driver at that point?
#120 [01:00] <Destikahr> ya makes me sad tho play at my friends house just fine on cumputers 5 years behind mine
#121 [01:01] <Destikahr> and I mean hooooorible. get a 5-10 framerate on league of legends.....that bad
#122 [01:05] <pwhitaker> I put that link in my computer and downloaded it. It pulled up what looked like the launch I have been using. I logged in and got the black screen.
#123 [01:06] <|Kiichan|> pwhitaker: there should have been a log generated afterwards.
#124 [01:06] <|Kiichan|> same folder as the launcher
#125 [01:07] <|Kiichan|> :pastebin > pwhitaker
#126 [01:07] <WugBot> pwhitaker: (pastebin) Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
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#128 [01:09] <Wug> its called minecraft.log btw
#129 [01:09] <pwhitaker> I am using my iPhone right now. I don't know if I can do that using iPhone.
#130 [01:09] <Wug> pwhitaker: use your computer then
#131 [01:11] <pwhitaker> And I do not have a mine craft folder on my computer. I can not install the software.
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#133 [01:12] <Wug> yes you do
#134 [01:12] <MitchellKubillus> Can I advertize my server website here?
#135 [01:12] <Wug> its in %appdata%\.minecraft
#136 [01:12] <|Kiichan|> MitchellKubillus: if you like to get kicked :P
#137 [01:12] <Wug> MitchellKubillus: no, you cannot.
#138 [01:12] <MitchellKubillus> Ok sweet
#139 [01:12] <MitchellKubillus> Oh nvm
#140 [01:13] <MitchellKubillus> Where can I advertize guys I really need members
#141 [01:13] <|Kiichan|> MitchellKubillus: what makes you think a help channel is the best place to advertise something?
#142 [01:13] <|Kiichan|> ??> MitchellKubillus smp/servers
#143 [01:13] <VoxelHead> MitchellKubillus: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#144 [01:13] <VoxelHead> MitchellKubillus: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#145 [01:13] <MitchellKubillus> Oh sorry I didnt think this was the help channel
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#148 [01:15] <MitchellKubillus> What's the best chat to use for advertising?
#149 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> #smp
#150 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> #smp
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#153 [01:25] <pwhitaker> http://pastebin.com/PXvGCA82
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#156 [01:35] <PAX2011Rafflewinner> i spent a while looking for an actual email for customer support for mojang, but i couldnt find one. Anyways I was one of the winners of the PAX 2011 raffle for a Scrolls alpha key, and I havent recieved any information from anyone from mojang yet. Not even a confirmation that they still have my email
#157 [01:36] <PAX2011Rafflewinner> anyone know if such an email exists?
#158 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> This is #minecrafthelp, not scrolls
#159 [01:37] <PAX2011Rafflewinner> i dare you to try and find a better place to ask
#160 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to get in contact with one of the organizers of that raffle. Probably email daniel@mojang.com
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#162 [01:37] <PAX2011Rafflewinner> allrighty, ill shoot off an email, thanks for the help
#163 [01:39] <Ketsueki> Yeahhh minecraft has super-awesome support. x.x
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#165 [01:40] <Ketsueki> Well, I mean that scarcastically (sardonically?) in relation to /official/ support, and completely truthfully in terms of /community/ support.
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#167 [01:40] <trit> hello, wondering if someone can help with a "can't reach server" error. I opened up a port on my firewall and forwarding it on my router.
#168 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> Are you hosting or playing?
#169 [01:40] <trit> running ubuntu server
#170 [01:40] <trit> both
#171 [01:40] <trit> on different machines
#172 [01:41] <trit> the server is a virtual machine
#173 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> Hosted... locally? colocated?
#174 [01:41] <trit> colo
#175 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> colocated where?
#176 [01:42] <trit> on a virtual box on my machine. so i guess locally actually
#177 [01:42] <trit> within my own network
#178 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> Ip address of the virtual box?
#179 [01:43] <trit> 192.168.1.104
#180 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> How is the virtual box's network set up? Is it bridged? shared? some other crap? Can you ping the virtual box's ip address from your host machine?
#181 [01:44] <trit> bridged, and yes
#182 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> Can you ping the virtual box's ip address from the client?
#183 [01:45] <trit> yeah, works locally
#184 [01:45] <trit> trying to get it so others can connect from outside
#185 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> Do you only have that one machine?
#186 [01:45] <trit> no, i can try another
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#188 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> I meant, you're hosting a server through a VM on a host computer. I'm just wondering if another (physical) computer on the same LAN can 'see' that VM
#189 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> If not, it's a VM configuration issue. If so, it's a router issue
#190 [01:46] <trit> yeah it can
#191 [01:47] <trit> what's weird is that it's worked once, but only the one time
#192 [01:47] <trit> the router's configured for port 25565
#193 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> Which IP address is it port forwarding to?
#194 [01:47] <trit> to the vm
#195 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> Not the host machine?
#196 [01:47] <trit> correct
#197 [01:49] <trit> could it just be an issue with the 1.0 server?
#198 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> Are you using 1.0.0 or 1.0.1?
#199 [01:50] <trit> how do i tell?
#200 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> Got the server running?
#201 [01:50] <trit> whichever one is on the site now
#202 [01:50] <trit> yeah
#203 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> What's the first line upon startup?
#204 [01:50] <trit> ah... 1.0.1
#205 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Then you should be fine.
#206 [01:51] <trit> hmm
#207 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Okay, provided you've port forwarded to the VM's bridged IP address, it should be working.
#208 [01:51] <trit> yeah, i think so too
#209 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> Got any other firewalls or iptable/ipchain rules that you overlooked?
#210 [01:52] <trit> possibly, but it's a fresh ubuntu install, so security should be pretty light
#211 [01:52] <trit> the firewall should be up, but maybe something else is blocking it
#212 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> iptables on a fresh ubuntu install should be empty, with allowing everything be default
#213 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#214 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Could you run the server on the physical linux machine rather than in a VM, see if that changes anything?
#215 [01:53] <trit> yeah, i can try that
#216 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Wondering if there's some VM setting that you might have overlooked.
#217 [01:54] <trit> sure
#218 [01:54] <trit> okay, i'll be back then if there's still an issue
#219 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Sure
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#221 [01:56] <thelight201> i went to buy minecraft and it told me it didnt work, but then i clicked to try again and it said thank you for purchasing minecraft. the launcher tells me i dont have a premium account and im wondering what i should do h
#222 [01:56] <Wug> :payment/stopped > thelight201
#223 [01:56] <WugBot> thelight201: (payment/stopped) Banks, credit card companies, etc. frequently stop minecraft purchases for your protection because they are international transactions. You may have to call your financial institution and ask that they approve the transfer.
#224 [01:56] <WugBot> thelight201: (payment/stopped) If you're not sure what to say, tell them: "I would like to make an international purchase and payment is being declined. How would I go about approving the purchase?"
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#236 [02:22] <trit> well no luck with that
#237 [02:22] <trit> i'm not sure what's wrong with it
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#239 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> trit - You ran the server on your linux machine, updated your port forwarding to point to that machine?
#240 [02:23] <trit> yeah
#241 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Server running right now?
#242 [02:24] <trit> no, i can have it up in a sec though
#243 [02:26] <trit> now it is
#244 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> !check 76.100.205.132
#245 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> Seems like it works here. one sec.
#246 [02:27] <trit> yeah, just saw you joined
#247 [02:28] <trit> i'm guessing it's an internal ip issue
#248 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> Router might not like NAT loopback?
#249 [02:28] <trit> having the same ip as the server
#250 [02:28] <trit> yeah
#251 [02:28] <trit> okay, well at least i know others can join :)
#252 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.
#253 [02:29] <trit> thanks for your help grey
#254 [02:29] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#254 [02:29] <trit> i'm heading out, see ya
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#259 [02:50] <acmfan> i have a slight bug
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#261 [02:59] <|Kiikun|Janus|> there! laptop wifi fixed <.<
#262 [03:01] <sugoi> acmfan: it's best to just ask the question
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#267 [03:04] <acmfan> it's fixed sugoi
#268 [03:04] <acmfan> it's fixed sugoi
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#270 [03:05] <sugoi> well good job
#271 [03:05] <sugoi> :)
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#273 [03:18] <ferrariallday> Hi, i just reinstalled my minecraft application on my mac and when i say login to play offline the lower button says "Not Downloaded", what should i do?
#274 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> Have you paid for minecraft?
#275 [03:18] <ferrariallday> No but i had an offline account
#276 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> There is no such thing
#277 [03:18] <ferrariallday> i had maps and everything
#278 [03:19] <ferrariallday> like when u download it it says play offline
#279 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> The launcher only downloads the files for minecraft premium (which including offline play), only on a successful premium account login
#280 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> If you have not purchased a minecraft account, you cannot play minecraft, even 'offline'
#281 [03:20] <ferrariallday> Oh is that new? 'cause i always use to
#282 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> Nope. Has been since I started back in alpha
#283 [03:22] <Wug> yar har fiddle dee dee
#284 [03:22] <ferrariallday> Really? cause i had 1.7.3 and i would always use to play offline and today when i deleted it and reinstalled the 'Not Downloaded" thing came up
#285 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> ferrariallday - Really.
#286 [03:22] <Wug> yep, its never been allowed
#287 [03:22] <Wug> its possible that someone else played it on your computer
#288 [03:22] <Wug> tor that you stole
#289 [03:22] <Wug> or, stole it*
#290 [03:23] <Wug> tlook at me
#291 [03:23] <Wug> tim playing minecraft
#292 [03:23] <Wug> thow can you tell
#293 [03:23] * GreyVulpine snrks
#293 [03:23] <Wug> GreyVulpine: test a mod?
#294 [03:23] <GreyVulpine> I should head off.. maybe tomorrow
#295 [03:23] <Wug> you might end up keeping this one
#296 [03:24] <ferrariallday> ??? i use to use a friends account because he never played but then his password was changed by another guy using the same account so whenever i clicked on the application the button said "play offline", i have the saves folder still
#297 [03:24] <Wug> buy premium
#298 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> hah.. account sharing.
#299 [03:24] <Wug> you are in a state of piracy
#300 [03:25] <ferrariallday> why's that? it wasn't my account
#301 [03:25] <ferrariallday> and he never used i
#302 [03:25] <Wug> because youve been playing premium on an account that hasnt paid for it
#303 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> If I don't use my car, doesn't mean my friends can 'borrow' it whenever they want.
#304 [03:25] <Wug> thats how it works
#305 [03:26] <ferrariallday> Ya but i didn't know that
#306 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> Life doesn't work that way bub.
#307 [03:26] <Wug> GreyVulpine: its more like you used to borrow your friends car, then he got rid of it, so you stole one from the dealer and used that
#308 [03:26] <ferrariallday> i thought Premium was for just online
#309 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> ferrariallday - It isn't
#310 [03:26] <Wug> ferrariallday: rules exist whether you are aware of them or not
#311 [03:26] <Wug> and now you know
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#313 [03:27] <ferrariallday> ah alright well i'll see if it changes when i buy the game
#314 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> If you like minecraft so much, buy an account. It's 27 bucks. Less than half of what new games cost nowadays.
#315 [03:27] <ferrariallday> ya i am i don't got a credit card yet so im waiting to go buy a preloaded
#316 [03:27] <ferrariallday> one
#317 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> You may not want to go that route. Prepaids don't work too well for minecraft
#318 [03:28] <ferrariallday> oh really?
#319 [03:28] * GreyVulpine nods
#319 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> ?? prepaid
#320 [03:28] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#321 [03:29] <ferrariallday> Aren't they the same thing, im kinda nub at this btw
#322 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> They are not.
#323 [03:29] <ferrariallday> Ugh how am i suppose to buy it then? My parents won't
#324 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> Credit cards are generally more secure. Credit card companies link your name, your social security number, your bank account, and all manners of personal information to that card. A prepaid card, has none of that. Hence why thieves and people who want to do fraudulant transactions love them. Prepaid cards are bought with no name, no address, no personal information attached to it
#325 [03:31] * Ninemmtylenol_ [Ninemmtylenol_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#326 [03:31] <ferrariallday> So im F***ed is what ur trying to say?
#327 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> Get a friend or relative to purchase it for you
#328 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> Almost christmas, isn't it?
#329 [03:33] <ferrariallday> Unfortunately we don't celebrate Xmas
#330 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> Birthday then. Or any other holiday.
#331 [03:34] <ferrariallday> Ya i wish, well i'll see
#332 [03:36] <ferrariallday> Until theeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn........... lol
#333 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> Until then, no minecraft without a paid for account
#334 [03:39] <Grim_Reaper> ^
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#337 [03:54] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: guess if Notch wants to do the Christmas giftaway this year :P
#338 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> scrolls Alpha codes
#339 [03:54] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#340 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> That's my prediction
#341 [03:54] <tyteen4a03> ;p
#342 [03:54] <Grim_Reaper> Cobalt <3
#343 [04:04] * libraryaddict [libraryaddict@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#344 [04:04] <libraryaddict> !paid
#345 [04:04] <libraryaddict> !paid libraryaddict
#346 [04:09] <sugoi> !paid notch
#347 [04:09] * AuBot kicked sugoi from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ugoi :notch has paid for Minecraft!)
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#349 [04:09] <sugoi> rude!
#350 [04:09] * GreyVulpine snickers
#350 [04:09] <libraryaddict> ikr
#351 [04:09] <libraryaddict> I dont think Notch paid at all
#352 [04:09] <sugoi> nor do i!
#353 [04:09] <libraryaddict> He just took the account
#354 [04:09] <libraryaddict> !paid jeb_
#355 [04:09] <sugoi> AuBot: you suck
#356 [04:09] * GreyVulpine stabs libraryaddict
#356 [04:09] <libraryaddict> !paid KingKong
#357 [04:10] <libraryaddict> :o
#358 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> Stop that
#359 [04:10] <sugoi> sorry
#360 [04:10] * libraryaddict creeps off to abuse another bot in another place another time
#360 [04:10] * sugoi wimpers in defeat
#360 [04:10] <tyteen4a03> AuBot: you suck
#361 [04:11] <libraryaddict> oh btw. Does this place help with addictions?
#362 [04:11] <sugoi> libraryaddict: minecraft addictions?
#363 [04:11] <libraryaddict> Among other things
#364 [04:11] <sugoi> nope, they are enablers here
#365 [04:11] <jeb> libraryaddict: i bought minecraft before i started working here =)
#366 [04:12] <libraryaddict> :o
#367 [04:12] <jeb> i have both jeb and jeb_
#368 [04:12] <libraryaddict> Yere. I would of guessed you bought it
#369 [04:12] <_0riginaI> Did you buy it before you even thought you'd work there?
#370 [04:13] <tyteen4a03> jeb: alpha?
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#372 [04:13] <libraryaddict> Oh btw. Because everyone keeps yelling "multithreading" in our cpu lagging server >.> Apparently our admin is throwing hundreds of dollars and cant fix a thing. Code in multithreading please xD
#373 [04:13] <jeb> _0riginaI: no, i think i bought it about at the same time as i sent in my job application =)
#374 [04:14] * GreyVulpine stabs libraryaddict
#374 [04:14] <xales> libraryaddict: If the CPU is falling behind, you need to get a better CPU :P
#375 [04:14] <jeb> libraryaddict: we're probably going to cooperate with bukkit to make a better server app
#376 [04:14] <libraryaddict> Its running IC + BC + Redpower :\
#377 [04:14] <libraryaddict> We are. Very active.
#378 [04:14] <EvilSibling> Hi, I have a problem with a Game Code. Ive checked the forums and help site but cant find the answer
#379 [04:15] <EvilSibling> i purchased a game code
#380 [04:15] <EvilSibling> using PayPal
#381 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> EvilSibling - Did you purchase the game code from minecraft.net?
#382 [04:15] <EvilSibling> yes
#383 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> Alright. What's the problem then?
#384 [04:15] <_0riginaI> EvilSibling: What happens when you try and use it?
#385 [04:15] <EvilSibling> my PayPal transaction was successful
#386 [04:15] <EvilSibling> i have the transaction number and my card was debited
#387 [04:15] <_0riginaI> What does it say when you try and use the code?
#388 [04:15] <EvilSibling> but the Minecraft store page crashed during the purchase...and i never received the code
#389 [04:16] <EvilSibling> i never received the code
#390 [04:16] <EvilSibling> not in email, and not in profile page
#391 [04:16] <_0riginaI> Probablt gave it the wrong email..
#392 [04:16] <xales> "crashed" how?
#393 [04:16] <EvilSibling> ive emailed support@mojang.com (as per the email address on my paypal receipt), ive used the online support form
#394 [04:16] <EvilSibling> and NO ONE will respond
#395 [04:17] <xales> EvilSibling: How long have you waited...?
#396 [04:17] <EvilSibling> i made the purchase thursday last week
#397 [04:17] * xales pokes jeb
#397 [04:18] <GreyVulpine> Don't think jerb's got access to the payment stuff.
#398 [04:18] <jeb> ?
#399 [04:18] <GreyVulpine> Last I heard, daniel doesn't either
#400 [04:18] <jeb> aha no, i don't
#401 [04:18] <_0riginaI> There's not really a game called minecraft... This was all just a big scam
#402 [04:18] * GreyVulpine kicks _0riginaI
#402 [04:19] <_0riginaI> ;D
#403 [04:19] <xales> GreyVulpine: I'm a bit out of date .-.
#404 [04:19] <EvilSibling> hmm
#405 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, who's left.. mollstam?
#406 [04:19] <tyteen4a03> somebody teach me java and give me money to move to Stockholm
#407 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> EvilSibling - Try sending an email with a description of your problem, and the paypal transaction ID to tobias@mojang.com
#408 [04:20] <EvilSibling> ok kool.
#409 [04:21] <EvilSibling> thanks for your help.
#410 [04:21] <GreyVulpine> G'luck
#411 [04:21] <GreyVulpine> G'luck
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#413 [04:23] <_0riginaI> Aussies..
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#415 [04:28] <Kealper> oh so this is where jeb moved to lol... i was like why isn't he in that channel who's name we don't speak anymore :o
#416 [04:28] * GreyVulpine stabs Kealper!
#416 [04:28] <Kealper> i mean.... jerb
#417 [04:29] * GreyVulpine headdesks.
#417 [04:29] <Kealper> i derp'd i have a feeling
#418 [04:29] <Kealper> brb scrolling up
#419 [04:30] <Kealper> seems to be him, did i miss something?
#420 [04:30] <Wug> Kealper: I have an autocomplete rule that changes jerb to jerb
#421 [04:30] * GreyVulpine shakes, "Just that people like to ping jerb"
#421 [04:30] <Wug> well, you know what I mean
#422 [04:31] <Wug> :ping
#423 [04:31] <Wug> ;search nickname
#424 [04:31] <WugBot> Matches for "nickname": changenick please pm
#425 [04:31] <Wug> ;search name
#426 [04:31] <WugBot> Matches for "name": ! bot changenick classic/! dont/ding forgotusername login/manual name/change offline please pm senduser
#427 [04:31] <Wug> :dont/ding > Kealper
#428 [04:31] <WugBot> Kealper: (dont/ding) It isn't polite to say people's names in IRC unless you need that particular person for a specific reason. People find the notifications their clients give them distracting and productivity decreases.
#429 [04:31] <WugBot> Kealper: (dont/ding) Please refrain from calling out to everyone for help.
#430 [04:31] <Wug> teehee
#431 [04:31] <Kealper> well maybe i was going to say hi if he wasn't afk D:
#432 [04:32] <Wug> I have something to mention to him as well
#433 [04:32] <Kealper> as a side note, he doesn't have the _ anymore...and he's in this channel... that's got to be a TON of hilights
#434 [04:32] <Wug> not that many actually
#435 [04:32] <Wug> and he doesnt use the _ in irc, at least here
#436 [04:33] <Kealper> ...or did he? O.o
#437 [04:33] <Kealper> DUN DUN DUN
#438 [04:34] <Wug> :o
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#443 [04:39] <mib_2m00iz> minecraft 1.8 gives me a black screen can someone help
#444 [04:39] <GreyVulpine> Latest version of minecraft is 1.0.0
#445 [04:39] <Kealper> mib_2m00iz: did you buy the game?
#446 [04:39] <mib_2m00iz> i havent yet
#447 [04:40] <Kealper> then don't ask for help on a game you stole
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#450 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#451 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> jerb's got a clone named kappische now? I mean.. Hi!
#452 [04:55] <kappische> jerb? :D
#453 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> Ah, it's just what we call him around here, as to not ping his client.
#454 [04:56] <Wug> this is where we get flooded with people whos minecraft is borked.
#455 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> I think kappische knows, we've been on the support page for a few months now..
#456 [04:56] <Wug> probably
#457 [04:57] <SinZ> Setup autobans for pinging jerb too much maybe?
#458 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> We'll see how bad it gets.
#459 [04:58] <Wug> so far it has been quiet
#460 [04:59] <Wug> very few direct pings except for people actually talking to him
#461 [04:59] <Wug> #risucraft's culture is jerbping -> kick, so I almost automatically watch for them
#462 [04:59] <xales> Wug: MAKE WUGBOT DO IT
#463 [04:59] <xales> capslock
#464 [04:59] <xales> I need to disable that key on here >.>
#465 [04:59] <Wug> I could probably do that
#466 [04:59] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#466 [04:59] <Wug> but we have a factoid for it, dont/ding
#467 [05:00] <xales> Wug: how do we add factoids?
#468 [05:00] <Wug> well, wugbot does
#469 [05:00] <Wug> with ;+
#470 [05:00] <Wug> or vox's ??+
#471 [05:00] <kappische> just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your work
#472 [05:00] <kappische> sorry for not lurking here more
#473 [05:00] <Wug> waithankyou
#474 [05:00] <kappische> I really hope I had more resources
#475 [05:01] <kappische> we have been working on a new support system that will hopefully let us hire more support personell
#476 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> Let this channel be their first day hazing. Make them spend 24 hours in here.
#477 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> I swear you'll weed out the good from the bad :)
#478 [05:02] <SinZ> alot of smart people here =P
#479 [05:02] <SinZ> only problems that dont get solved here, are payment issues
#480 [05:03] <Wug> kappische: could you guys like ... buy us a teamviewer license?
#481 [05:03] <Wug> teamviewer hates each and every one of us
#482 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> Reminds me, kappische, do you not handle support issues directly anymore? Got a response back from somebody earlier pointing them to help@mojang.com ?
#483 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> Hah, yeah.
#484 [05:03] <xales> Wug: LogMeIn Rescure is nicer
#485 [05:03] <SinZ> teamviewer hates me too
#486 [05:03] <xales> Rescue, even
#487 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> teamviewer hates all 3 of my computers now.
#488 [05:04] <kappische> yeah exactly. I dont do support anymore GreyVulpine
#489 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> Alright, good to know
#490 [05:04] <kappische> we are looking to work with assistly
#491 [05:04] <Wug> did the torrent of emails become too swift? :D
#492 [05:04] <kappische> set up a knowledgebase etc
#493 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> Let us know if we can help in any way.
#494 [05:04] <Wug> ^
#495 [05:04] <kappische> the support took just to much time and I didnt have time to do my real job =/
#496 [05:04] <Wug> GreyVulpine needs a job
#497 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#498 [05:05] <SinZ> got a basic knowledgebase here... *stares at WugBot and VoxelHead, SinZBot and GreyBot*
#499 [05:05] <Wug> lol
#500 [05:05] <Wug> its pretty much true though
#501 [05:05] <Wug> wugbot, where can I update java?
#502 [05:05] <WugBot> I am in the following channels: ##wugbot, #beastnode, #illegal, #kryptiox, #mchelp, #minecraft, #minecraftforums, #minecrafthelp, #minecrafthelp.breakroom, #minestatus, #omegle, #risucraft, #smp, #wugnet.
#503 [05:05] <WugBot> Wug: (j) Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#504 [05:05] <Wug> lol
#505 [05:05] <Wug> double whammy
#506 [05:05] <SinZ> might need to work on that detection
#507 [05:06] * Wug forgot that "where" is a command
#507 [05:06] <kappische> that thing teamviewer..does people let you connec to their computer? :D
#508 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#509 [05:06] <SinZ> yes
#510 [05:06] <kappische> oh wow
#511 [05:06] <SinZ> remote desktop connection
#512 [05:06] <SinZ> just more user friendly
#513 [05:06] <Wug> people seem to trust us for some reason
#514 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> I've probably used teamviewer on at least a few hundred systems since I started here over a year ago
#515 [05:06] <Wug> :o
#516 [05:06] <kappische> it is very super user friendly. But dont know if it is safe hehe
#517 [05:06] <SinZ> I saw you start grey =P
#518 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> kappische - We haven't had a complaint yet.
#519 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> It's actually very safe.
#520 [05:07] <SinZ> kappische: its safe, user has an option to terminate the connection at all times, and it has the option to re-generate the temp pass on someone quitting
#521 [05:07] <Wug> there was that one time when I ipconfig /release :P
#522 [05:07] <Wug> but that was only one time
#523 [05:07] * GreyVulpine thwaps Wug
#523 [05:07] <kappische> Wug: haha how did you manage to reconnect then? :P
#524 [05:07] <Wug> they came back with a different client and I coached them through ipconfig /renew
#525 [05:08] <SinZ> people seem to trust the regulars here
#526 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> Those @ and +s aren't just for show.
#527 [05:08] <SinZ> +s?
#528 [05:08] <SinZ> isnt it +o
#529 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, voices.
#530 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> +o and +v
#531 [05:08] <SinZ> oh, +v
#532 [05:09] <Wug> we've gotten all sorts of ecstatic, convulsive, sobbing, amusing thank yous too
#533 [05:09] <SinZ> on a different network, it could have +a and +q
#534 [05:09] <kappische> the best thing would be if this channel actually didnt need to exists…
#535 [05:09] <kappische> -s
#536 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't that be lovely.
#537 [05:09] <Wug> kappische: java sucks too much to let that happen with minecraft :S
#538 [05:10] <Wug> that and intel drivers' opengl support
#539 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> And ! in window's username
#540 [05:10] <Wug> and toshiba laptops
#541 [05:10] <kappische> I was talking with jerb :D about just intel
#542 [05:10] <xales> Wug: Like that EA person.
#543 [05:10] <xales> :D
#544 [05:10] <Wug> and !s
#545 [05:10] <Wug> intels processors are great
#546 [05:10] <Wug> graphics, not so much
#547 [05:10] <SinZ> and Non pixel-format accelerated format not accepted
#548 [05:10] <kappische> about setting lower graphics by detecting graphics card
#549 [05:10] <SinZ> or whatever the error is
#550 [05:11] <Wug> though the integrated ones in 2nd gen core ix processors are ok once the drivers are installed
#551 [05:11] <kappische> but that doesnt solve everything
#552 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> kappische - You'd still be surprised at what people might think can run minecraft.
#553 [05:11] <Wug> :mclol
#554 [05:11] <WugBot> mclol: http://wug.me/minecraft/mclol.png
#555 [05:11] <Wug> ^ stuff like this
#556 [05:12] <SinZ> `id cake
#557 [05:12] <SinZBot> The ID for cake is 354.
#558 [05:12] <kappische> 3d fx?!?!? WTF?!
#559 [05:12] <SinZ> good bot.
#560 [05:12] <Wug> kappische: its a dinosaur, isnt it
#561 [05:12] <kappische> is is from 97!
#562 [05:12] <Wug> I'm connected from it, its wug.me :P
#563 [05:12] <kappische> it
#564 [05:12] <xales> Wug: How is it displaying to a screen that big? :P
#565 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> Worse one that I've saved: http://pastebin.com/azAYc5Uh -- 256 megs of RAM, Riva TNT
#566 [05:12] <Wug> that 3dfx somehow can drive a 1080p monitor
#567 [05:13] <Wug> but that screenshot was taken over vnc
#568 [05:13] <kappische> I have been asking the guys to actually but in some requirements for the game...
#569 [05:13] <kappische> on the homepage
#570 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> mollstam came by a week ago to ask about that
#571 [05:13] <Wug> 64 bit system highly recommended :P
#572 [05:14] <GreyVulpine> We gave him just enough to put those couple lines on the purchase page.
#573 [05:14] <Wug> you know what
#574 [05:14] <Wug> my theory about the cause of minecrafts terrible memory issues is heap fragmentation
#575 [05:15] <Wug> tons of small, long-lifetime objects allocated all over the heap
#576 [05:15] <Wug> then it tries to allocate something big, like a chunk
#577 [05:15] <Wug> and there arent any contiguous free blocks large enough
#578 [05:15] <kappische> but the garbage collector should take care of it
#579 [05:15] <xales> Wug: Isn't Java supposed to be smart about that
#580 [05:15] <Wug> xales: supposed to being the keyword
#581 [05:16] <xales> Wug: do GCs not defrag the heap?
#582 [05:16] <xales> >.>
#583 [05:16] <Wug> they do not defrag, no
#584 [05:16] <Wug> the thing is the objects are still in use
#585 [05:16] <Wug> which is why they dont get moved or GCd
#586 [05:16] <xales> Wug: http://blogs.oracle.com/jrockit/entry/repost_tips_and_tricks_for_dealing_with_a_fragmented_java_heap
#587 [05:17] <Wug> object pools dont work in java either because you cant trick it into allocating blocks of objects
#588 [05:17] <kappische> wonder if jerb has seen that one
#589 [05:18] <xales> kappische: Java actually has an enormous amount of really neat memory diagnostic stuff, which I never knew about until I opened the Java folder in Program Files >.>
#590 [05:19] <xales> And, of course, they don't document this stuff anywhere!
#591 [05:19] <Wug> I've done some experiments with repeated allocation of objects and it just kind of puts things all over the place
#592 [05:19] <kappische> yay. jeb haru sett dom grejorna?
#593 [05:19] <xales> Wug: Is OpenJDK any better?
#594 [05:19] <Wug> xales: no idea
#595 [05:19] <Wug> though I might guess that it is
#596 [05:19] <Wug> we should do some sort of evaluation as to which is better
#597 [05:19] <Wug> sometime
#598 [05:20] <clone1018> ShaRose: I'm good with a TF2 sniper
#599 [05:20] <Wug> clone1018: wb
#600 [05:20] <clone1018> I left?
#601 [05:20] <Wug> wb also means wrong box
#602 [05:20] <clone1018> no?
#603 [05:20] <kappische> what is the most commen issue you get here?
#604 [05:20] <clone1018> oh
#605 [05:20] <clone1018> yes it is....
#606 [05:20] * xales pokes GreyVulpine
#606 [05:20] <Wug> probably issues with graphics drivers
#607 [05:21] <Wug> most commonly intel integrated ones
#608 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> graphics drivers, java, black screen due to modding or java 7 or intel graphics.
#609 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> and ! in windows username
#610 [05:21] <Wug> though issues associated with java 7 are on the rise
#611 [05:21] <kappische> wonder if we can do anythign at all about java7 issues..
#612 [05:21] <Wug> the ! bug pops up too a lot
#613 [05:21] <kappische> but it is "OpenGL driver not found"?
#614 [05:21] <Wug> I have a stack trace generated by a java 7 installation
#615 [05:22] <Wug> its most commonly connection issues
#616 [05:22] <kappische> so if you have a ! in your username you cant log in to minecraft? weird...
#617 [05:22] <Wug> yeah, try it. make an account with a !
#618 [05:22] <kappische> I'll talk with mollstam
#619 [05:22] <Wug> you will get failures to connect when logging in and/or a bunch of weird things
#620 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> Here's trace of account with !
#621 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/UsLWBa4T
#622 [05:23] <kappische> ok
#623 [05:23] <Wug> well one of them
#624 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> and http://mibpaste.com/rDzMnH
#625 [05:24] <Wug> hang on, digging in logs for the java 7 stack trace
#626 [05:24] <kappische> Caused by: java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Users\Marc!!!!!!! (The system cannot find the file specified)
#627 [05:24] <kappische> hehe
#628 [05:24] <SinZ> Who did the query protocol, whoever did, I <3 them
#629 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> I believe this was one for java 7, http://pastebin.com/h295MNMx
#630 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> Gah
#631 [05:24] * GreyVulpine kicks Aubot
#631 [05:25] <kappische> keke :D
#632 [05:25] <Wug> aubot 1, greyvulpine 0
#633 [05:25] <kappische> wonder if the latest version of jwgl would help more people..
#634 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Yes!
#635 [05:26] <kappische> lwjgl..
#636 [05:26] <Wug> theoretically
#637 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Not the latest 2.8, but the 2.7.1 helps heaps
#638 [05:26] <kappische> we tried updating it but it ruined it when we tried it out..
#639 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> For issues like this one on linux: http://pastebin.com/13CA6Xpi
#640 [05:26] <Wug> myself and a few other linux users have a sporadic problem with keys sticking
#641 [05:26] <Wug> happens a lot with the movement keys
#642 [05:27] <kappische> mm I have heard people having issues with sound too..
#643 [05:27] <Wug> I'm led to believe that its an lwjgl issue and that a newer version might fix it
#644 [05:27] <Wug> sound issues are almost always sound drivers
#645 [05:27] <Wug> or interfering software
#646 [05:27] <kappische> so is 2.7.1 much more stable than 2.8+?
#647 [05:27] <Wug> I found a thread on the forum which has a very high rate of successful diagnosis
#648 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> Definitely
#649 [05:29] <kappische> hm
#650 [05:29] <kappische> Ill check with jens
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#652 [05:30] <GreyVulpine> Don't suppose you can make a little note in the purchase page that only minecraft.net is the official source of minecraft?
#653 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> We've been getting at least a few people every couple weeks that have gotten scammed by purchasing it from some ebay-like site
#654 [05:31] <Wug> I found the java 7 stack trace
#655 [05:31] <Wug> http://pastebin.com/HbSUZhSw
#656 [05:32] <Wug> this particular issue seems to affect network traffic on something like 40% of machines with java 7, while other users have no issues with it
#657 [05:32] <Wug> I have been using java 7 for a while with no errors
#658 [05:32] <kappische> GreyVulpine: yeah we are onto fraud-stuff :( I hate it
#659 [05:32] <kappische> have written blog posts on facebook etc
#660 [05:32] <GreyVulpine> We do too, bleh
#661 [05:33] <kappische> we should definitally tell on minecraft.net
#662 [05:33] <gPad2002> Hmm.. A little bird told me 64-bit java can't launch JARs.. Is this the bullshit it sounds like?
#663 [05:33] <Wug> you might know certain sites where you can play minecraft without paying
#664 [05:33] <kappische> yeah =/
#665 [05:33] <Wug> dont say the url, it makes vox mad
#666 [05:33] <kappische> the best way to beat them is to keep on updating the game I guess
#667 [05:33] <Wug> gPad2002: punch them in the face
#668 [05:33] <gPad2002> Wug: Good advice :P
#669 [05:34] <GreyVulpine> Oh, can't forget the lovely string of false positives we get from various AVs and security software as of the last few months
#670 [05:34] <kappische> =/
#671 [05:34] <kappische> stupid anti virus ...
#672 [05:34] <Wug> lol norton
#673 [05:34] <Wug> EVERYTHING IS VIRUS
#674 [05:34] <GreyVulpine> AVG, avast, avira, norton, mcafee..
#675 [05:34] <Wug> BLOCK ALL THE THINGS
#676 [05:35] <Wug> norton now takes upon itself to warn me if something is using lots of cpu
#677 [05:35] <Wug> on any one core
#678 [05:35] <Wug> I have an 8 core
#679 [05:35] <gPad2002> Lol, I hate norton
#680 [05:35] <gPad2002> Avast <3
#681 [05:35] <gPad2002> LOLWAT
#682 [05:35] <Wug> it freaks out if my cpu usage goes over 12%
#683 [05:35] <gPad2002> Shaddup Vox
#684 [05:35] <gPad2002> And.. Lol
#685 [05:36] <kappische> I got a Mac so I dont need antivirus...
#686 [05:36] <kappische> kekeke =D
#687 [05:36] <gPad2002> Yes you do
#688 [05:36] <Wug> heh
#689 [05:36] <gPad2002> :P
#690 [05:36] <gPad2002> Pretty sure there are a few new Mac viruses circulating every week or so
#691 [05:36] <Wug> I have the ability to not click on virusy links on the internet
#692 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> If not, itunes is already kinda one. *cough*
#693 [05:36] <kappische> I love when I hear that from mac users..
#694 [05:36] <Wug> and I use linux mostly
#695 [05:36] <gPad2002> GreyVulpine: Word.
#696 [05:36] <Wug> GreyVulpine: itunes is horrible
#697 [05:37] <Wug> it has crashed my hard drive before :O
#698 [05:37] <Wug> like bluescreen + forced chkdsk
#699 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> I've had to recover a friend's windows machine when he installed itunes. It BSODd
#700 [05:37] <kappische> (I hope you understood that I was kidding about not needing antivirus..)
#701 [05:37] * GreyVulpine nods
#701 [05:37] <Wug> also, on my desktop at home, it pops up a message box every like 3 minutes about itunes' tos
#702 [05:37] <kappische> (although I dont use any anti virus…)
#703 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> We hear it so many times around here.
#704 [05:38] <Wug> kappische: I dont use one
#705 [05:38] <kappische> I think I am confident enough when Im surfing
#706 [05:38] <kappische> porn!
#707 [05:38] * Wug makes sure to execute every file he downloads from the internet with sudo
#707 [05:39] <gPad2002> Lol
#708 [05:39] <gPad2002> Of course
#709 [05:39] <gPad2002> Sudo fixes every problem :P
#710 [05:39] <Wug> lol
#711 [05:40] * Wug sudo znc and sudo ircbot
#711 [05:40] <gPad2002> LOL
#712 [05:40] <Wug> sudo all the things, get all the security risks
#713 [05:40] <gPad2002> well, no, I run bots as root
#714 [05:40] <gPad2002> But only bots I've written
#715 [05:40] <gPad2002> And had tested by #c++
#716 [05:40] <Wug> wugbot doesnt know how to drop root but I use the daemon tool which can set uid
#717 [05:41] <Wug> I dont even remember the last time I was infected with malicious software
#718 [05:41] <kappische> I will try to push for updating lwjgl and fixing illegal characters in usernames…but dont think minecraft will be updated this year
#719 [05:41] <Wug> kappische: also, can you mention updating the demo
#720 [05:42] <Wug> the demo is at like 1.8
#721 [05:42] <GreyVulpine> 1.5
#722 [05:42] <Wug> is it really?
#723 [05:42] <Wug> :demo N>> wug
#724 [05:42] <GreyVulpine> I just had somebody come by yesterday asking for it
#725 [05:42] <GreyVulpine> They wanted to know if their radeon 9200 will run minecraft.
#726 [05:42] <kappische> yeah the demo is really old
#727 [05:42] <Wug> who set demo
#728 [05:42] <kappische> REALLY old..
#729 [05:42] <GreyVulpine> radeon 9200s, have been known to be on the cusp of runnin gminecraft
#730 [05:42] <Wug> ;?demo
#731 [05:42] <kappische> also the classic version is even OLDER
#732 [05:42] <Wug> :?demo
#733 [05:42] <WugBot> demo was set by: wug
#734 [05:42] <Wug> ...wut
#735 [05:43] <gPad2002> Lol
#736 [05:43] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, people still come by here asking for classic help
#737 [05:43] <gPad2002> Doesn't understand his own bot
#738 [05:43] <GreyVulpine> I'm considering dropping support for classic in here.
#739 [05:43] <Wug> maybe I was trolling
#740 [05:43] <Wug> ;long http://is.gd/l507ow
#741 [05:43] <WugBot> http://is.gd/l507ow --> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Minecraft+Demo&l=1
#742 [05:43] <Wug> kappische: also about the demo
#743 [05:43] <Wug> the current one is windows only
#744 [05:44] <kappische> very true
#745 [05:44] <Wug> I managed to hack a multiplatform version but obviously I cant distribute it
#746 [05:44] <kappische> hehe :)
#747 [05:44] <kappische> the demo needs to be updated
#748 [05:44] <Wug> gosh theres like a zillion things
#749 [05:45] <Wug> can you update the launcher too?
#750 [05:45] <Wug> it would be cool if it saved a log file
#751 [05:45] <kappische> what about the launcher?
#752 [05:45] <kappische> oh..I think it creates one to the desktop/place where you have the file?
#753 [05:45] <Wug> well :P
#754 [05:45] <Wug> we have one that does that
#755 [05:45] <Wug> but the regular one does not
#756 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> But for those times that minecraft doesn't crash, but merely black screens, or does something else..
#757 [05:46] <kappische> yeah black screen is something really weird..never happens to us :S
#758 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> We'd like to know what step in the process minecraft gets stuck on.
#759 [05:46] <kappische> havent been able to reproduce or been able to see it on our computers. Macs or PC
#760 [05:46] <Wug> its usually related to a failed mod install
#761 [05:46] <xales> kappische: you should incorrectly install some more mods, then ._.
#762 [05:46] <kappische> keke
#763 [05:46] <kappische> we dont support mods! :D
#764 [05:46] <Wug> and even if it isnt, if we had the log file, we would be able to figure out what caused it
#765 [05:46] * GreyVulpine pokes Wug
#765 [05:47] * Wug is poked
#765 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> Somebody came by here just this morning with this link: http://launch.minecraft.net/test.html
#766 [05:47] <kappische> what did they try to prove with it?
#767 [05:47] <Wug> GreyVulpine: a cool concept, but it doesnt seem to capture output
#768 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> Absolutely nothing. just wanted to ask what it was. I've never seen it before either
#769 [05:48] <kappische> it was a test to fire up the launcher with links to be able to share stuff easier :D
#770 [05:48] <Wug> at least, not for me. as soon as it successfully launches, it drops stdout
#771 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> But if we had something like that, but even more verbose, it would help immensely.
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#773 [05:48] <Wug> kappische: we could show you our launcher, which is technically against the tos :S
#774 [05:49] <xales> Wug: I thought you were still using a .bat?
#775 [05:49] <Wug> we do for reinstalling
#776 [05:49] <kappische> what do you do with that launcher?
#777 [05:49] <Wug> I think there might be a .bat somewhere
#778 [05:49] <Wug> but the issue with .bats is I have seen some java installations that simply would not print standard out to console
#779 [05:50] <Wug> the launcher redirects it to a file as soon as it starts
#780 [05:50] <Wug> that is one of 2 changes I made to it, the other being the options popup has a 'show your password' button
#781 [05:50] <Wug> which has come in useful several times before, from people who have forgotten it
#782 [05:50] <xales> Wug: Why not just have a bootstrapper-bootstrapper? >.>
#783 [05:51] <Wug> xales: because yuck
#784 [05:51] * xales puts straps on Wug's boot
#784 [05:51] <Wug> and if java is randomly deciding to do different things with stdout for fun
#785 [05:51] <kappische> show your password..humm..?
#786 [05:51] <Wug> kappische: you can take a look if you wish:
#787 [05:51] <GreyVulpine> People regularly forget their password, or even what account is premium
#788 [05:51] <Wug> :ts/launcher
#789 [05:51] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#790 [05:51] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#791 [05:51] <Wug> before you ask
#792 [05:51] <Wug> :illegal
#793 [05:51] <WugBot> illegal: its in a folder called illegal because its legal status is questionable since its a modded launcher and distributing minecraft code is against the tos (including the launcher)
#794 [05:52] <kappische> yeah...
#795 [05:52] <Wug> I'll show you, I use it for general purpose
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#797 [05:52] <xales> Wug: you could always have a binary patch and a .bat to apply it
#798 [05:52] <xales> :p
#799 [05:53] <Wug> xales: I know, but my reasoning for doing it this way is the fewer things that can go wrong, the better
#800 [05:53] <Wug> h/o uploading screenshot
#801 [05:55] <Wug> ;wugsite Screenshot-1.png
#802 [05:55] <WugBot> Wug's Website: http://wug.me/minecraft/Screenshot-1.png
#803 [05:55] <Wug> I need to set up public key auth
#804 [05:55] <Wug> button becomes "hide password" when used
#805 [05:58] <Wug> output from the log (found in the minecraft folder, called minecraft.log) looks like: http://pastebin.com/7gC0vT4T
#806 [05:58] <Wug> I removed my own session key, it doesnt do that by itself. perhaps it should?
#807 [05:58] <Wug> kappische: ^
#808 [05:58] <GreyVulpine> Wug - That output, looks like an dealie error with iBus
#809 [05:59] <Wug> it doesnt affect gameplay as far as I know
#810 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> For some, it does
#811 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> There was a fix, or workaround by either turning off iBus, or passing an argument in the command line that disables iBus during runtime.
#812 [06:00] <GreyVulpine> I can pull it up, if you wish
#813 [06:00] <Wug> sure, why not
#814 [06:00] <Wug> might help
#815 [06:00] <GreyVulpine> Lemme just fire up grep again.
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#817 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_doesnt_receive_key_events_if_ibus_running_ubuntu_linux
#818 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> Specifically, the part with xmodifiers.
#819 [06:03] <Wug> I dont seem to have ibus running
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#821 [06:03] <xales> GreyVulpine: I think that's an lwjgl thing, because IIRC, Minecraft uses lwjgl for game-loop input
#822 [06:04] <Wug> kappische: did you die or something D:
#823 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> Don't doubt it's a lwjgl thing, for some, it's also iBus that's causing control issues
#824 [06:06] <xales> GreyVulpine: I don't think it's a Minecraft-specific issue, though
#825 [06:06] * GreyVulpine shrugs
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#826 [06:08] <Wug> GreyVulpine: for the record, I still have the issue with lwjgl 2.7.1
#827 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, but you exhibit no symptoms, so meh to you.
#828 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> Others have to contend with mouse/keyboard issues.
#829 [06:09] <Wug> I have the issues with random sticky buttons
#830 [06:09] <Wug> but they're usually dealwithable
#831 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> Oh, reminds to check on something that I was going to get around to.. seeing if Synergy was cross-platform compatible.
#832 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> The mouse going to straight up, or straigh down issue, was that.
#833 [06:11] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, it is available on mac/*nix as well.
#834 [06:13] <Wug> I'm in need of a server
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#836 [06:14] <Wug> fffuuuuu
#837 [06:15] <GreyVulpine> mc.minecraftirc.net
#838 [06:15] <Wug> that one is ... as of yet unpopulated
#839 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> Best kind of server. No griefing to deal with, no people to steal your stuff from impenetrable vaults..
#840 [06:17] <Wug> well, you cant steal from impenetrable vaults anyway
#841 [06:18] <Wug> I dont mind the occasional griefing either
#842 [06:18] <Wug> but playing with people is cool
#843 [06:18] <Wug> competitively or not
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#847 [06:24] <fyee1991> hey my friend has just bought mine craft, with visa and now wants to give me that but it is not wiso?
#848 [06:24] <fyee1991> why*
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#850 [06:26] <fyee1991> hey my friend has just bought mine craft, with visa and now wants to give me but this is not why?
#851 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> huh?
#852 [06:27] <Wug> "hey my friend just bought minecraft and wants to give it to me but can't, why?"
#853 [06:27] <Wug> :payment/stopped
#854 [06:27] <WugBot> payment/stopped: Banks, credit card companies, etc. frequently stop minecraft purchases for your protection because they are international transactions. You may have to call your financial institution and ask that they approve the transfer.
#855 [06:27] <WugBot> payment/stopped: If you're not sure what to say, tell them: "I would like to make an international purchase and payment is being declined. How would I go about approving the purchase?"
#856 [06:28] <TheNoodle> fyee1991, verstehen sie?
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#873 [08:46] <fuogo> hi
#874 [08:47] <fuogo> i really need help!
#875 [08:47] <fuogo> i cant update my minecraft
#876 [08:47] <fuogo> it download some 14% then it crashes
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#878 [08:57] <fuogo> GUUUUUUUUUYYYYYYYYYSSSSSSSSS
#879 [08:57] <fuogo> help me!
#880 [08:58] <fuogo> well this sucks
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#882 [09:08] <k4run0> hi
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#884 [09:12] <k4run0> pistons dont react on signals in smp if the block to push is a rail. it works in ssp.already a known issue? i didnt find something like tha
#885 [09:13] <gPad2002> Nope, they push rails fine for me
#886 [09:14] <k4run0> so why not for me? :)
#887 [09:14] <gPad2002> You're powering it correctly? You don't have a stuck piston?
#888 [09:15] <k4run0> i tried a lot, all methods work fine in ssp for me, but not on my server
#889 [09:15] <k4run0> if i remove the rail pistons work fine
#890 [09:15] <k4run0> i run latest bukkit rb
#891 [09:16] <k4run0> only plugin atm is dynmap
#892 [09:17] <k4run0> good to know that its not a general problem at least
#893 [09:19] <gPad2002> Mm
#894 [09:19] <gPad2002> I really don't know
#895 [09:19] <gPad2002> See if any of the more regular guys know
#896 [09:19] * gPad2002 sits on GreyVulpine
#896 [09:20] <k4run0> just got rid of dynmap, now it works :D
#897 [09:21] <k4run0> that makes no sense for me, but ok
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#899 [09:23] <Davo> o-o
#900 [09:23] <Davo> are there anyone who could help me
#901 [09:23] <gPad2002> Dunno
#902 [09:23] <gPad2002> Depends on your question
#903 [09:23] <Davo> with some premium purchasing issues
#904 [09:23] <gPad2002> :P
#905 [09:23] <Davo> :o
#906 [09:23] <Davo> =o
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#908 [09:24] <gPad2002> What is the problem?
#909 [09:24] <Davo> well
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#911 [09:24] <Davo> i tried to buy minecraft multiple times
#912 [09:24] <Davo> and
#913 [09:25] <Davo> I always get this 'transaction fail' thing
#914 [09:25] <Davo> and when I click okay,
#915 [09:25] <Davo> It says transaction complete wait an hr
#916 [09:25] <gPad2002> Have you been billed?
#917 [09:25] <Davo> or something
#918 [09:25] <Davo> Not sure.
#919 [09:25] <gPad2002> Might want to check that
#920 [09:26] <gPad2002> If you haven't been billed then it definitely failed
#921 [09:26] <gPad2002> If so, check your details
#922 [09:26] <Davo> Hey? well it's my dad's cc
#923 [09:26] <Davo> I'll get him to check it.
#924 [09:26] <gPad2002> Alright
#925 [09:26] <Davo> Thanks.
#926 [09:26] <gPad2002> If its gone through multiple times
#927 [09:26] <gPad2002> Then check the support section on the site
#928 [09:27] <Davo> Yeah? I e-mailed straight to Notch. o:
#929 [09:27] <Davo> Just now o.o
#930 [09:27] <gPad2002> Notch gets a lot of emails :P
#931 [09:27] <jamietech> "notch fix endurdrugaons"
#932 [09:27] <gPad2002> Lol
#933 [09:27] <gPad2002> Sup jamie
#934 [09:27] <Davo> =o
#935 [09:27] <jamietech> hi :)
#936 [09:28] <jamietech> i don't have buffer on this channel :3
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#938 [09:29] <Davo> Is Minecraft worth it? Like all this trouble. :o
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#940 [09:30] <Davo> I've heard that it's really good.
#941 [09:30] <Davo> xD
#942 [09:30] <Davo> Anyways yeah thanks.
#943 [09:30] <Davo> Laters. o-:
#944 [09:30] <sullyskully> I have a question how long after you have paid for the game does it take to get a full account?
#945 [09:31] <gPad2002> sullyskully: An hour to a day or so
#946 [09:31] <jamietech> Just like DNS propagation
#947 [09:31] <jamietech> noone knows when it's going to complete
#948 [09:32] <sullyskully> so what options are there for contacting them about the account it has been 4 business days and the only activity I hace seen is the 27 dollars leaving my account
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#950 [09:35] <gPad2002> sullyskully: Support area on the site
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#952 [09:36] <sullyskully> well i have been there and it is like a ghost the reply i get is the automatic one with e-mail
#953 [09:38] <jamietech> bye
#954 [09:38] <jamietech> glad we could help you
#955 [09:38] <gPad2002> Lol
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#958 [09:46] <mib_o55r84> not really a technical problem but a game question :P
#959 [09:46] <mib_o55r84> where i can find all the potion recipes
#960 [09:47] <gPad2002> Minecraft wiki
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#962 [09:47] <gPad2002> It's under brewing
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#964 [09:48] <mib_o55r84> i am really looking for how to make splash potions
#965 [09:49] <gPad2002> Add gunpowder to finished potion
#966 [09:50] <mib_o55r84> oh thanks
#967 [09:50] <gPad2002> Another happy customer xD
#968 [09:51] <kappische> :D
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#970 [09:55] <blackhawk223> We recently bought Minecraft and cannot run it due to "Bad Drivers" according to the error message. There was only 1 out dated driver which I updated from the Manufacturers website. I'm still getting the error message. How can I fix this?
#971 [10:01] <Tinno> I seem to be having a lot of trouble updating minecraft, it seems to freeze during the download every time. Any help on this?
#972 [10:02] <Tinno> to clarify, it says "Fatal error occured (4): Connection reset"
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#979 [10:18] <LukasForeals> Hey guys, my minecraft worked fine the other day, just went to open it then, and nothing happens when i click the .exe? i tried deleting the .minecraft folder, still nothing, replaced it with a backup and delted just then .jar file, still doesn't load...any ideas?
#980 [10:19] <hallo> Wanted to send the game Minecraft with the poison-code to a friend, but had a number of spin and now I have the sample that I can no longer zahen. Can help me one?
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#984 [10:25] <LukasForeals> never mind, i re-installed java and now it launches
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#986 [10:26] <mib_y0cbcm> hi
#987 [10:26] <mib_y0cbcm> hi
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#989 [10:27] <mib_y0cbcm> i wrote a little mod, and it loads in eclipse, but i am not able to get it run in the normal client with modloader....i tried to create a zip in the mod fold or add it to minecraft jar, but it is not working..
#990 [10:29] <SinZ> ?? mods
#991 [10:29] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#992 [10:29] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
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#994 [10:30] <wilma> lhi guys
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#996 [10:31] <pachuco> hi
#997 [10:31] <wilma> i have probel with minecarft
#998 [10:32] <pachuco> download minecraft off minecraft .com not sure were it is
#999 [10:32] <wilma> problem*
#1000 [10:32] <wilma> bot?
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#1002 [10:33] <pachuco> wilma
#1003 [10:33] <wilma> yes
#1004 [10:34] <pachuco> do u no how to download game from minecraft.com.
#1005 [10:34] <wilma> soo
#1006 [10:35] <pachuco> do u no ?
#1007 [10:35] <wilma> im not here for downloading the game i get this erorr
#1008 [10:35] <wilma> internal exception:java.net.sockettimeoutexcpetion:read timed out
#1009 [10:35] <wilma> i ownsever soo i need help to fix it!
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#1017 [11:02] <batorah> i need help
#1018 [11:02] <WugBot> batorah: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1019 [11:02] <batorah> ?
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#1025 [11:09] <batorah> ?
#1026 [11:09] <batorah> hey guys
#1027 [11:09] <batorah> ????????????????????????????????
#1028 [11:10] <batorah> ?
#1029 [11:10] <batorah> ???
#1030 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> As Wugbot has stated, if you have a problem, please tell us everything about it. A "I need help" tell us nothing, other than you need help
#1031 [11:11] <batorah> i need help '-'
#1032 [11:11] <WugBot> batorah: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1033 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> Okay, you need help with what?
#1034 [11:11] <batorah> is actually a question ...
#1035 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> Fire away
#1036 [11:12] <batorah> how to get the cape of minecon?
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#1038 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> Did you register for minecon, and pay?
#1039 [11:12] <batorah> I see many people using but none say how to get it
#1040 [11:13] <GreyVulpine> Minecon was an event held in Las Vegas on Nov 18-19. A bonus to signing up to Minecon (and paying the entrace fee), was that people going got a free cape
#1041 [11:13] <batorah> so is to register and pay on site minecon?
#1042 [11:13] <GreyVulpine> It is no longer possible to get that cape
#1043 [11:14] <batorah> not have any way to get it in time?
#1044 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> Minecon's done with. Over.
#1045 [11:15] <batorah> then have to be the desire to have it? :/
#1046 [11:15] <batorah> bad :/
#1047 [11:16] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, can't get the cape anymore. Minecon was back in november.
#1048 [11:16] <batorah> :/
#1049 [11:16] <batorah> thanks o/
#1050 [11:16] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1050 [11:16] * GreyVulpine tips hat
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#1052 [11:21] <fenster> I would like the game a paid for
#1053 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.net/download
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#1058 [11:26] <johnii> Does anyone know why a Zombie would spawn *inside* my home?
#1059 [11:27] <johnii> I actually jumped and nearly spilt my tea. LOL.
#1060 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> Not enough light
#1061 [11:28] <fenster> does not work
#1062 [11:28] <johnii> OH! That makes sense. I need to keep it bright inside? I thought it was the materials it was made out of. That makes a lot more sense. Although animals will spawn if there's dirt inside correct?
#1063 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> Animals will spawn if there's grass inside
#1064 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> And yes, with enough light inside, monsters will not spawn near lighted areas
#1065 [11:29] <johnii> excellent
#1066 [11:30] <johnii> I've got to thank everyone that's helped me out recently. It's been a LONG time since I've done much of anything with IRC and I am quickly remember why I used to use it. You are all damn helpful and cool about it. :)
#1067 [11:30] <johnii> Thanks!
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#1070 [11:33] <brianf725> I purchased the game 5 days ago, it has went through my bank, but my son can't login.. it says "user not premium"
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#1072 [11:34] <brianf725> No one has gotten back to me when I sent emails to support.
#1073 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, payment issues is something that we cannot address here. Althought we provide support for them, we're not Mojang. Have you confirmed that the bank has withdrawn the money?
#1074 [11:34] <brianf725> yes, I just checked it
#1075 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> Did you purchase an account, or a gift code?
#1076 [11:35] <brianf725> An account
#1077 [11:36] <brianf725> I don't know who to contact because no one has replied to my support emails
#1078 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> Did you make sure the account you used, is the one you're currently logging in under? If not, use http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename on all email addresses you normally use. It'll send back an email with all the usernames attached to that email, and whether they're premium.
#1079 [11:36] <alex33> Hi i have problems with comming in to at server for multiplayer, red cros on all the servers, it has been working some days ago, any one know what to do,?
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#1081 [11:37] <brianf725> I have only created one account..
#1082 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> brianf725 - Then send an email to help@mojang.com with your issue, along with a copy of the transaction ID.
#1083 [11:38] <brianf725> Well, I don't have a transaction ID, where would I find that?
#1084 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> alex33 - Servers gone down? Have you tried other servers?
#1085 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> brianf725 - When you purchased an account, either by credit card, moneybookers, or paypal, you should've gotten an receipt of payment when it was finished. It should've emailed you a confirmation of payment as well.
#1086 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> Mojang doesn't process payments directly, rather relying on payment processors like Paypal or moneybookers to do it for them.
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#1088 [11:40] <alex33> i have triede all servers on the page they show red cross on all.?
#1089 [11:40] <brianf725> Well, the thing is, When it was processing the payment, my son pressed the back button on the browser, so I never got a confirmation, but it went through anyway
#1090 [11:41] <brianf725> it shows this on my bank account: MB*MINECRAFT MONEYBOOKER 12/09MB*MINECR $26.95
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#1092 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> alex33 - Try the server: mc.minecraftirc.net
#1093 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> If that works, it's your other servers that are down
#1094 [11:42] <brianf725> So I obviously don't want to pay for it twice..
#1095 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> brianf725 - Did you get an email from moneybookers confirming payment at all?
#1096 [11:42] <brianf725> No, I did not
#1097 [11:42] <WugBot> brianf725: (payment/stopped) Banks, credit card companies, etc. frequently stop minecraft purchases for your protection because they are international transactions. You may have to call your financial institution and ask that they approve the transfer.
#1098 [11:42] <WugBot> brianf725: (payment/stopped) If you're not sure what to say, tell them: "I would like to make an international purchase and payment is being declined. How would I go about approving the purchase?"
#1099 [11:43] <brianf725> but it already shows that it was taken out of my account, so it obviously went through
#1100 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, automatic response from our bot here..
#1101 [11:43] <alex33> All the servers are down on this page too red cross.
#1102 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> If you're sure your bank has approved the transaction, brianf725, send an email to help@mojang.com with as much information as you can gather.
#1103 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> alex33 - Did you try connecting to the server, "mc.minecraftirc.net" in your game client?
#1104 [11:44] <brianf725> Ok, how long do they usually take to get back to you? because I have been emailing support since the 9th
#1105 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> If you've been emailing support@mojang.com, last I heard, they had a backlog of tens of thousands of emails.
#1106 [11:45] <brianf725> oh.. that's wonderful.. why don't they update their website, and say not to email to that address then?
#1107 [11:46] <alex33> when i have log in, it disepear from the browser
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#1109 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> brianf725 - Been a recent new email. They're trying to put up a new support team.
#1110 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> alex33 - What disappears from the browser?
#1111 [11:48] <brianf725> Thank you for your help.. I will email that address with a screenshot of my bank account, and if they don't help me, I will just call my bank and tell them I didn't authorize the purchase.. Then I will just try to make the purchase again..
#1112 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> That's a good plan.
#1113 [11:49] <alex33> when i have log in, and press in browser, it disappear then i have to go to the homepage again.
#1114 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> Sounds like a problem with cookies on your browser. Make sure you have cookies enabled. If not, try a different browser, or try the downloadable client at minecraft.net/download
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#1118 [11:58] <ferdinand> my rain sound stop working after downloading the update
#1119 [11:58] <bernard> aubot?
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#1121 [12:00] <ferdinand> how can I fix the rain sound?
#1122 [12:05] <ferdinand> I did re install minecraft still seems to not want to play the rain sound
#1123 [12:10] <alex33> I have tryede with a new browser, google chrome, when i have log in, it only shows Minecraft text ?
#1124 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> alex33 - Could you try the downloadable client at minecraft.net/download?
#1125 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - Try f3 + S to reload sounds
#1126 [12:12] <clarjon1> GreyVulpine: That's actually a thing? Awesome *goes to look in the wiki for more tips like that*
#1127 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> should still be
#1128 [12:13] <alex33> When i do that it shows red cross on all the servers
#1129 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> what servers?
#1130 [12:15] <alex33> mc.duncsweb.com plus a lot more, when i go to multiplayer
#1131 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> !check mc.duncsweb.com
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#1133 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Then look at your security software/firewall. It may be blocking minecraft
#1134 [12:17] <alex33> it still not works
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#1136 [12:20] <ferdinand> did not work, any other suggestions?
#1137 [12:21] <alex33> GreyVulpine any other suggestions.?
#1138 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> alex33 - Try another computer?
#1139 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - Try a force update?
#1140 [12:23] <ferdinand> did that already
#1141 [12:23] <ferdinand> re downloaded it
#1142 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - Operating system?
#1143 [12:25] <alex33> GreyVulpine I have now tryed this computer too same problem
#1144 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> Then it's a problem with your router/modem/ISP
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#1148 [12:33] <TensaZangetsu> Hi!
#1149 [12:33] <ferdinand> sorted it out manually deleted file except saves in the .minecraft folder and then reloaded minecraft
#1150 [12:33] <mib_zoksf3> cant load free version says unable 2 load logo nprogressbar images help plz
#1151 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_zoksf3 - Internet explorer on classic?
#1152 [12:34] <mib_zoksf3> nah
#1153 [12:34] <Morrolan> Somehow it's neat that logfiles which go back to July take up 12 MB only. :D
#1154 [12:35] <Morrolan> Of a Minecraft server, that is.
#1155 [12:35] <Steve[mbp]> :-p
#1156 [12:35] <Steve[mbp]> I have a system that eats my MC logs and sends them to a central location....but im a freak like that
#1157 [12:36] <TensaZangetsu> Hi! Can someone help me? I need a plugin / mod for flying on my server. Can you tell me one, that works well? I had one for older Minecraft, but I forgot its name.
#1158 [12:36] <mib_zoksf3> thx 4 tryin 2 solve my prooblem anyway
#1159 [12:38] <Steve[mbp]> TensaZangetsu: client-mod or server-mod? vanilla MC or or a server like bukkit?
#1160 [12:40] <Steve[mbp]> TensaZangetsu: please keep convo to the chat. The ability to fly I beleive is globally allowed in the server.properties file
#1161 [12:40] <Steve[mbp]> as for World Edit, you may been to look at whatever permissions WE needs and set those accordingly
#1162 [12:41] <TensaZangetsu> Steve[mbp]: Oh, OK. So if I enable fly with server.properties, it will work.
#1163 [12:41] <Steve[mbp]> well setting that will disable the no_fly check
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#1166 [12:41] <Steve[mbp]> from their you will probably need a client or server mod to allow flying
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#1168 [12:42] <TensaZangetsu> And which mod can I use?
#1169 [12:43] <Steve[mbp]> there are several....check dev.bukkit.org
#1170 [12:44] <TensaZangetsu> I checked, but I'm not sure, it will be OK with the latest bukkit. I just searched up with fly keyword there.
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#1172 [12:44] <Steve[mbp]> your on your own at that point.
#1173 [12:45] <Steve[mbp]> easiest method is to just match the craftbukkit builds
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#1175 [12:49] <Morrolan> Just use a client-sided mod, will be less problematic in most cases.
#1176 [12:49] <TensaZangetsu> OK
#1177 [12:49] <Morrolan> Zombe's flymod is most likely the most popular one.
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#1179 [12:49] <Morrolan> Pretty nice.
#1180 [12:50] <TensaZangetsu> Oh, thank you guys, I'll check out Zombe's fly mod.
#1181 [12:51] <mib_0w1t7d> minecraft is acting like it does not know my account so I cant redownload it :(
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#1183 [12:52] <mib_0w1t7d> any help?
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#1189 [13:04] <NordMan> how can i change to 64 bit java
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#1193 [13:07] <Sathees> Hello
#1194 [13:08] <Sathees> anyone there?
#1195 [13:08] <NordMan> yes
#1196 [13:09] <Sathees> Hello
#1197 [13:09] <NordMan> ello
#1198 [13:09] <NordMan> hello
#1199 [13:09] <Sathees> can people with hamachi can join my server? with fort fowaring my server?
#1200 [13:09] <Sathees> forwarding*
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#1202 [13:10] <Sathees> can they?
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#1204 [13:10] <NordMan> oh i am here to ask a question as well i dont answer them sorry
#1205 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> If you port forwarded, you don't need hamachi
#1206 [13:10] <Sathees> but i am not allow to so people cna join my server with out fort forwading my server right?
#1207 [13:10] <Sathees> with himachi?
#1208 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - You can do hamachi, but you're on your own
#1209 [13:11] <Sathees> what you mean?
#1210 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> Hamachi's a poor way of serving up minecraft. Don't expect any support for it, especially when it breaks or does weird things
#1211 [13:13] <alex33> GreyVulpine Thank you ! it was good to restart router.
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#1213 [13:13] <Sathees> i only wnat my friends to join thats all
#1214 [13:13] <Sathees> is himachi okay?
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#1216 [13:14] <Steve[mbp]> Sathees: why not just whitelist your friends?
#1217 [13:15] <NordMan> I get this message when i run minecraft server [Severe] Unexpected exception java.lang.outofmemoryerror: java heap space and says some more what does this mean
#1218 [13:15] <Sathees> what you mean? i dont want to fort forward because i dont know the problems of it...can my friends join my server with himachi?
#1219 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> NordMan- Don't have enough RAM free
#1220 [13:15] <NordMan> how can a free up more
#1221 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - Yes. but all your friends must have hamachi as well
#1222 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> NordMan - Close down any running programs, buy more RAM
#1223 [13:15] <Sathees> DOnt owrry they willing to join
#1224 [13:16] <NordMan> ok
#1225 [13:16] <Sathees> I need to play with my friends that all. is it okay?
#1226 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> That's fine
#1227 [13:16] <Sathees> is himachi okay?
#1228 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> Just be aware some of the dangers of Hamachi
#1229 [13:16] <Sathees> what are the danger?
#1230 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> It is a VPN software, you run it, you expose your computer to anybody on the same Hamachi network. File sharing and access is enabled by default
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#1232 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> Anybody can get onto your computer and has full access to your files.
#1233 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarding, does not have that risk
#1234 [13:18] <Sathees> but what are the danger of fort forwarding?
#1235 [13:18] <alex33> Is there a place i can see how to make a server.?
#1236 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Absolutely none, if you do it right
#1237 [13:18] <Sathees> what you mean do it right?
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#1239 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> If you know how to port forward, there's no danger.
#1240 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> alex33 - by here:
#1241 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/serversetup
#1242 [13:19] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: Lots of information here:
#1243 [13:19] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1244 [13:19] <Sathees> is that all?
#1245 [13:20] <Sathees> will anyone join my network without password if i fort forward?
#1246 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> Only people who know your ip address can connect to you
#1247 [13:21] <alex33> Ok i will try.
#1248 [13:21] <Sathees> SO you telling me its 100% safe? but only my friends going to join my himachi whats the prbolem? i can trust them
#1249 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - Even somebody who doesn't know what they're doing can say, "Hey look! I can see your files! Ooo.. what's this file? *delete*"
#1250 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Absolutely no protection against them doing that, and file access is enabled by default
#1251 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> If you trust your friends that much, then by all means, use hamachi
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#1254 [13:23] <Sathees> =( aww this is creepy
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#1256 [13:23] <Sathees> creeper than a creeper
#1257 [13:23] <frogmella> bad memory card :(
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#1259 [13:24] <Sathees> I am just confuse
#1260 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> About?
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#1262 [13:26] <Sathees> i dont which one to choose himachi or fort forward? problem with fort forwarding for me is my brother wont allow me and saying people will join the network with out password
#1263 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Ask him if he's like everybody who joins the network, having full access to his computer's files
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#1265 [13:27] <Sathees> Lol thats even worse
#1266 [13:27] <Sathees> i guess i go with fort forward but tell me is it true people can join the network without password or secure?
#1267 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> There are ways of limiting access to a minecraft server. MC has a built in whitelist functionality
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#1269 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> If you enable the whitelist, only people on that list can join the server.
#1270 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Or you have the option of not using it, and only giving out the ip address to people you know
#1271 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> There are quite a few ways of limiting access of your minecraft server to friends only
#1272 [13:29] <Sathees> =) i can trust all my friends but when i fort forward will my friends will be join my networ or just my server?
#1273 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Just the server
#1274 [13:29] <Sathees> Okay, right now i am going to beat the thing out my brother
#1275 [13:29] <Jif> I have no sound in minecraft. Can anyone help? If I turn on sound the app crashes. If i rename openal64.dll to .old then it no longer crashes when i enable sound, but i get no sound
#1276 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> Try updating lwjgl manually
#1277 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0 -- Use lwjgl 2.7.1, 2.8 has problems
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#1279 [13:31] <alex33> Hello GreyValpine can i make a minecraft server with minecraft.exe on a paper you has giveing me, there stand there minecraft.jar my computer can't find the jar file can you help me.?
#1280 [13:31] <Jif> i put in the openal32.dll and 64 from lwjgi but still no sound
#1281 [13:31] <alex33> GreyVulpine*
#1282 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> alex33 - You need to download minecraft_server seperately. It can be found at minecraft.net/download
#1283 [13:32] <Jif> if i start via java.exe command line i get this:
#1284 [13:32] <Jif> AL lib: DoReset: Failed to set 44100hz, got 48000hz instead
#1285 [13:32] <Jif> AL lib: DoReset: Failed to set Signed Short samples, got 32/32-bit instead
#1286 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Pastebin it if it's long
#1287 [13:32] <Jif> OpenAL initialized.
#1288 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Please don't paste the entire thing here
#1289 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Use www.pastebin.com
#1290 [13:34] <alex33> GreyVulpine det er s�dan at min computer �bner jar filen med notesblok men exe. filen k�re fint, ka jeg godt bruge exe filen i stedet for jar. filen.?
#1291 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry, I do not understand that alex33.
#1292 [13:34] <Sathees> lol
#1293 [13:34] <alex33> Undskyld
#1294 [13:35] <alex33> Translation working not :(
#1295 [13:37] <alex33> GreyVulpine i can't open the jar file.
#1296 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> Why do you need to open it?
#1297 [13:37] <alex33> I want to make a server.
#1298 [13:37] <Sathees> how to fort forward?
#1299 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> portforward.com
#1300 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> Don't use the PF utility, skip their ads.
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#1302 [13:38] <Sathees> what you mean?
#1303 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> Use portforward.com to figure out how to port forward, but don't use their utility
#1304 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> They have walkthroughs
#1305 [13:39] <Sathees> -_- you confused me
#1306 [13:40] * GreyVulpine sighs
#1306 [13:40] <Sathees> come on help me!
#1307 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> portforward.com has walkthroughs, but also advertises their port forwarding utlity called pf utility. Skip their ads for it, and you'll see the actual instructions
#1308 [13:41] <Sathees> how to skip it? i dont if i am on right page or not
#1309 [13:41] <Sathees> know*
#1310 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what type of router you have?
#1311 [13:42] <Sathees> i havre this thing TALKTALK-F054AB
#1312 [13:42] <Jif> Anyone else have any ideas for my sound? works fine in all other apps. I have updated sound driver and java and tried lwjgl dlls, no luck
#1313 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> Jif - Have you gone to the .minecraft directory and deleted the /bin/ and /resource/ folders?
#1314 [13:43] <Sathees> i have this router i think TALKTALK-F054AB
#1315 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - I have no idea what that is..
#1316 [13:43] <Sathees> lol wrong one
#1317 [13:43] <Jif> just so it can download again?
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#1319 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Jif - yes
#1320 [13:43] <Sathees> this thing? EchoLife HG521
#1321 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Head to portforward.com
#1322 [13:45] <Sathees> did
#1323 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Along the top, you should see "router list"
#1324 [13:45] <Sathees> yep
#1325 [13:45] <alex33> GreyVulpine can Hamachi hack my computer
#1326 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Click on that, scroll down to the heading marked "Huawei"
#1327 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Under that, you should see "EchoLife-HG521"
#1328 [13:45] <Sathees> next?
#1329 [13:45] <Sathees> okay
#1330 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> You'll see a page for PF utility, like I said, click the Skip ad button in the upper right
#1331 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Next page, look for "Minecraft server"
#1332 [13:46] <Sathees> okay wait
#1333 [13:47] <Sathees> done
#1334 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Alright. are you at the minecraft server page?
#1335 [13:47] <Sathees> yes
#1336 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Okay. will you be hosting the minecraft server on the computer you're on right now?
#1337 [13:47] <Jif> GreyVulpine - no luck, stillno sound. I can change the error based on what dll i use
#1338 [13:47] <Sathees> yes not comouter laptop
#1339 [13:47] <Jif> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x56bf2d46, pid=5908, tid=10148
#1340 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Jif - Pastebin.com the full error please. give us the URL
#1341 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> I need to see the stack trace for that error
#1342 [13:48] <Sathees> yes i will but my 2 brothers are using 2 laptop and i am using mine
#1343 [13:48] <Sathees> so 3 user in my network. any problem with that?
#1344 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - Huh? I'm just asking if you're sitting at the computer that you'll be hosting the minecraft server on?
#1345 [13:49] <Sathees> yes!!
#1346 [13:49] <Sathees> =P just got confuse now i am okay
#1347 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> Will they all be in the same house, or will some of them be connecting from outside?
#1348 [13:49] <Jif> http://pastebin.com/Vqjta3dB
#1349 [13:49] <Sathees> inside
#1350 [13:49] <Sathees> house
#1351 [13:49] <Sathees> sam e house
#1352 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> Then screw port forwarding and hamachi, you don't need either of them
#1353 [13:50] <Sathees> why?
#1354 [13:50] <Sathees> =(
#1355 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> if all of them are just connecting from inside your house, you don't need to mess with your router.
#1356 [13:50] <Sathees> lol why?
#1357 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarding and hamachi only affects connections from outside your house
#1358 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> If you're just hosting it locally inside your house, all you need to do is figure out your internal ip address.
#1359 [13:50] <Sathees> i am confuse anything worong
#1360 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#1361 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> Nothing's wrong, you're just making this more complicated than it needs to be
#1362 [13:51] <Sathees> what you mean? =(
#1363 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> Are you on windows? mac? linux?
#1364 [13:51] <Sathees> windows 7
#1365 [13:51] <sugoi> Sathees: under same router - no extra step needed
#1366 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> Follow these steps exactly.
#1367 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> sugoi - I know that
#1368 [13:51] <Sathees> okay
#1369 [13:51] <Sathees> dont confuse me let grey talk
#1370 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - Go to your start menu, in the search bar at the bottom, type in: cmd
#1371 [13:51] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: clearly you know that... sorry...i'll be quite
#1372 [13:52] <Sathees> dont confuse me let grey talk?
#1373 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> When you press enter, a black command prompt window will pop up. type in: ipconfig
#1374 [13:52] <Sathees> lol next?
#1375 [13:52] <Sathees> next?
#1376 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Look for a line labeled ipv4, should be an address like 192.168.x.y
#1377 [13:52] <Sathees> there are 2 one is wireless
#1378 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> How are you connected to your network right now, wireless?
#1379 [13:53] <Sathees> yep
#1380 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Then look at that one
#1381 [13:53] <Sathees> wireless one?
#1382 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> What is the ipv4 address of the wireless one?
#1383 [13:53] <Sathees> 192,168,.
#1384 [13:54] <Sathees> i mean 192.168.1.3
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#1386 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Then that's your computer's internal ip address. When you run the server on your computer, that's the ip address you give to the people in your house that want to join your minecraft server
#1387 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> That's it. No port forwarding, no hamachi.
#1388 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Only people inside your house can access that ip address.
#1389 [13:55] <Sathees> lol -_- little confuse
#1390 [13:55] <Sathees> i agve to people but no one can join it
#1391 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> You're overthinking it. Run minecraft_server.exe, give it to the people in your house that want to join
#1392 [13:55] <Sathees> i wnat my friends to join
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#1394 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Are you giving them 192.168.1.3?
#1395 [13:55] <Sathees> yes
#1396 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Are they in the same house?
#1397 [13:55] <Sathees> no
#1398 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> You just said..
#1399 [13:56] <Sathees> -_0 thats my brother
#1400 [13:56] * sugoi giggles
#1400 [13:56] <Sathees> 2 brothers
#1401 [13:56] <Sathees> -_0 one of is annoying and one of them is weird
#1402 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> So they're not in the same house as you then
#1403 [13:56] <Sathees> who???
#1404 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> The people that you want to join your server.
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#1406 [13:57] <Sathees> nope
#1407 [13:57] <Sathees> -_- i think i confused you
#1408 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> No, just you said earlier...
#1409 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> <@GreyVulpine> Will they all be in the same house, or will some of them be connecting from outside?
#1410 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> <Sathees> sam e house
#1411 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> I assumed everybody connected was in the same house.
#1412 [13:58] <Sathees> my brothers in same house
#1413 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> Alright then, back to port forwarding.
#1414 [13:58] <Sathees> lol
#1415 [13:58] <Sathees> not again
#1416 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Pull up your web browser. go to http://192.168.1.1
#1417 [13:59] <Sathees> done
#1418 [13:59] <Sathees> and logged in
#1419 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> If your brother hasn't changed anything, the default login and password should be admin
#1420 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Alright
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#1422 [13:59] <Sathees> okay now what?
#1423 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> I'll just be following the instructions straight from the port forwarding page: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Huawei/EchoLife-HG521/Minecraft_Server.htm
#1424 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> So, along the left side, do you see Advanced?
#1425 [14:00] <Sathees> its said wwarrning for adavaned user
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#1427 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> That's fine
#1428 [14:00] <Jif> Anyone have any ideas why my sound doesn't work? http://pastebin.com/Vqjta3dB
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#1430 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> You're an advanced user now, congratulations
#1431 [14:00] <Sathees> xD yay
#1432 [14:01] <DOOM_gear> im heaving problems running a 64-bit Java
#1433 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> When you clicked on Advanced, do you see "Port mapping at the top, Sathees?
#1434 [14:01] <sugoi> DOOM_gear: java 6 or 7?
#1435 [14:01] <sugoi> DOOM_gear: and what 'problem'
#1436 [14:01] <Sathees> wait
#1437 [14:02] <MAC> Can anyone please explain the java hs_err_pid **** problem?
#1438 [14:02] <DOOM_gear> its java 6 and when i play minecraft in the video screen it says im running a 54 bit
#1439 [14:02] <DOOM_gear> 34bit
#1440 [14:02] <sugoi> haha
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#1442 [14:02] <Sathees> gray i cant find it
#1443 [14:02] <sugoi> DOOM_gear: what does it say? try not to typo this time
#1444 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> MAC - Copy the contents of the hs_err_pid to pastebin.com, submit it, then give us the URL
#1445 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - Follow the instructions from the page.
#1446 [14:03] <MAC> k 1 sec
#1447 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Huawei/EchoLife-HG521/Minecraft_Server.htm
#1448 [14:03] <Sathees> please
#1449 [14:03] <sugoi> DOOM_gear: is your machine 32bit?
#1450 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - ?
#1451 [14:04] <DOOM_gear> a 64bit java instillation is recommended for far render distance u have a 32 bit
#1452 [14:04] <sugoi> DOOM_gear: your OS -- what are you running btw, windows, mac, linux?
#1453 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Jif - Did you install any mods?
#1454 [14:04] <Sathees> aww i am not good with reading enlish
#1455 [14:04] <sugoi> DOOM_gear: oh, that's not an error, it's a recommendation
#1456 [14:04] <DOOM_gear> im running windows
#1457 [14:04] <Jif> no
#1458 [14:04] <DOOM_gear> oh ok
#1459 [14:04] <sugoi> DOOM_gear: i tried the 64bit java 6, and yes, it ran faster on that machine
#1460 [14:04] <MAC> http://pastebin.com/0x9Nx8ey
#1461 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - Please go to: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Huawei/EchoLife-HG521/Minecraft_Server.htm
#1462 [14:04] <Jif> only downloaded a few days ago
#1463 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - Do you see the screenshots from your router there?
#1464 [14:05] <Sathees> yes
#1465 [14:05] <Sathees> i am stuck on the last bit
#1466 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - Do you see Port Mapping from the top?
#1467 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> After clicking on advanced?
#1468 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> MAC - Do you know what video card you have?
#1469 [14:06] <Sathees> yes
#1470 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> MAC - Most likely, it's a pretty old video card.
#1471 [14:06] <MAC> intergrated
#1472 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> MAC - Unfortunately, there's a chance that integrated video card will not work with minecraft.
#1473 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - Alright.. did you fill out the information for port mapping?
#1474 [14:06] <Sathees> hey grey i am on the last bit but confused
#1475 [14:06] <MAC> that seems to be the case
#1476 [14:07] <Sathees> lol nope
#1477 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> What are you confused about Sathees?
#1478 [14:07] <Sathees> port mapping
#1479 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - Alright. start filling out the form like it shows you. Check "Customization"
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#1481 [14:07] <Jif> I have multiple sound devices in my pc. Is there a way to tell if minecraft is using the default for sure?
#1482 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Protocol is tcp/udp
#1483 [14:07] <slawekjocker97> hi
#1484 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Jif - Nope.
#1485 [14:08] <Sathees> will anything go wrong?
#1486 [14:08] <slawekjocker97> grey
#1487 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - No.
#1488 [14:08] <Sathees> okay
#1489 [14:08] <slawekjocker97> grey: I have question for you. I have premium minecraft and i must change new nick, you can do this? My nick premium is: slawekjocker97 and i must change to: slawekjob
#1490 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> slawekjocker97 - There is currently no way to change your nickname
#1491 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> This feature will be available at a latter date
#1492 [14:09] <Sathees> so i write the 22565 thing?
#1493 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - 25565 for External Start Port, External End port and internal port
#1494 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Once you've put those in, for internal host, put in 192.168.1.3, your computer's internal ip address
#1495 [14:09] <slawekjocker97> nooooooo
#1496 [14:09] <slawekjocker97> i must
#1497 [14:10] <Sathees> then?
#1498 [14:10] <slawekjocker97> i very must
#1499 [14:10] <slawekjocker97> change nick
#1500 [14:10] <Sathees> what about the mapping name thing?
#1501 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> slawekjocker97 - I'm sorry, it's not possible right now
#1502 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - You can put anything in you want for the name, "Minecraft server" would be good.
#1503 [14:10] <sugoi> slawekjocker97: i'm curious...why?
#1504 [14:11] <Sathees> then?
#1505 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - Let me just make sure you put in everything correctly. "Customization" "TCP/UDP", blank for remote host..
#1506 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> 25565-25565 for Remote start and end.
#1507 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> 192.168.1.3 for local host, and 25565 for local port.
#1508 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> That correct?
#1509 [14:12] <Sathees> yes
#1510 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Then press submit
#1511 [14:12] <Sathees> done then???
#1512 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - That.. should be all you need to do for port forwarding
#1513 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Do you know your public ip address?
#1514 [14:13] <Sathees> lol nope
#1515 [14:13] <Sathees> i will say MInecrafter are smart!!!
#1516 [14:13] <Sathees> public ip?
#1517 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - Go to www.whatismyip.com
#1518 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> That'll give you your public ip address, give that out to your brothers to connect
#1519 [14:14] <Sathees> not them
#1520 [14:14] <Sathees> can you try to join?
#1521 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Server running?
#1522 [14:15] <Sathees> wait
#1523 [14:15] <slawekjocker97> iWhen i enter nick i write wrong nick :(
#1524 [14:15] <Sathees> i made 2 server and one of them have plane mod xD and it worked
#1525 [14:16] <slawekjocker97> grey When i enter nick i write wrong nick :(
#1526 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> slawekjocker97 - I'm sorry, there's nothing I can do about that
#1527 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - Is the server running?
#1528 [14:16] <Sathees> so i should change server ip?
#1529 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> No, you should leave it blank
#1530 [14:17] <Sathees> what you mean?
#1531 [14:17] <slawekjocker97> ehh
#1532 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> If you're talking about the server-ip line in server.properties. Leave that line blank
#1533 [14:17] <Sathees> why?
#1534 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't do what you think it does.
#1535 [14:18] <Sathees> oh lol xD
#1536 [14:18] <Sathees> its said failed to bind port
#1537 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> Is the server already running?
#1538 [14:19] <Sathees> okay lets me check
#1539 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it is, and you're running an outdated server.
#1540 [14:19] <Sathees> oh lol
#1541 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> Close down the server, redownload minecraft_server.exe from minecraft.net/download
#1542 [14:19] <Sathees> but wait how come i cnat join?
#1543 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> I'm getting "outdated server" from you
#1544 [14:19] <Sathees> okay i can now
#1545 [14:20] <Sathees> me too
#1546 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the server from minecraft.net/download
#1547 [14:20] <Sathees> okay let me make the server again
#1548 [14:21] <Sathees> man i cant beat my brother hes too big
#1549 [14:22] <Sathees> making it
#1550 [14:22] <Sathees> done
#1551 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> check your console
#1552 [14:23] <Sathees> what you mean?
#1553 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> Check your server's window
#1554 [14:23] <Sathees> xD
#1555 [14:24] <Sathees> thanks for ur help
#1556 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> Now, port forwarding wasn't so hard now, was it?
#1557 [14:25] <Sathees> nope
#1558 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, you bet.
#1559 [14:25] <Sathees> wow i will never forget you
#1560 [14:25] <Sathees> remmber to come on my server
#1561 [14:25] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1561 [14:25] <Sathees> wait a min
#1562 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> whitelisting?
#1563 [14:25] <Sathees> when i shut my computer or switch of the router
#1564 [14:26] <Sathees> will the ip change?
#1565 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> It could.
#1566 [14:26] <Sathees> aww damn then how could you join?
#1567 [14:26] <Sathees> how do i stop that?
#1568 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> By setting up a static ip address on your computer, or just by following the port forwarding steps again.
#1569 [14:27] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: would you not recommend ip reservation?
#1570 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> sugoi - Many routers do not have that functionality built in
#1571 [14:27] <Sathees> what you mean?
#1572 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> Sathees - If nobody can connect, do what we just did again. Start -> cmd -> ipconfig -> find ipv4 address.
#1573 [14:28] <Sathees> okay
#1574 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> Go to your 192.168.1.1 address, look at port mapping, make sure the local host ip address matches the ip v4
#1575 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> That's really it.
#1576 [14:28] <Sathees> hehehe time to beat my brother up
#1577 [14:28] <Sathees> thanks friend
#1578 [14:28] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1578 [14:28] <Sathees> wont forget you!!!
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#1580 [14:30] <Sathees> Minecraft is just awesome thing
#1581 [14:32] <Morrolan> Beating your brother up isn't, however. :P
#1582 [14:33] <Sathees> aww
#1583 [14:33] <Morrolan> I'm sure that poor guy hasn't earned this. :P
#1584 [14:33] <Sathees> his too hard
#1585 [14:33] <Sathees> his 2 time bigger than me
#1586 [14:33] <Morrolan> Oh, yea, ok.
#1587 [14:33] <Sathees> i ma only 14 his 18
#1588 [14:33] <Morrolan> In this case - go ahead. ;)
#1589 [14:34] <Sathees> xD dont wnat to die
#1590 [14:34] <Morrolan> Will to survive at its best, evolution has succeeded it seems. :D
#1591 [14:34] <Sathees> xD
#1592 [14:36] <Sathees> since i got my server up now need to put plugin but i need bukit or something?
#1593 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, bukkit would be something to look into if you wanted a modded server with plugins
#1594 [14:38] <Sathees> xD too much
#1595 [14:38] <Sathees> my friend is so annoying now its time for me to annoy him ehehehhe
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#1603 [14:54] <mib_q0jwka> I transfered money to my paypal instead of using the debit card and I bought minecraft instantly!
#1604 [14:54] <CooliSushi> :P
#1605 [14:55] <sugoi> CooliSushi: :)
#1606 [14:55] <CooliSushi> sup
#1607 [14:55] <CooliSushi> Notch really needs to fix that for people who will buy the game with a debit card
#1608 [14:55] <sugoi> just passing a ':)' for your 'instant' purchase :)
#1609 [14:55] <CooliSushi> it was a pain in my butt to buy this game
#1610 [14:55] <CooliSushi> thanks :D
#1611 [14:56] <sugoi> i don't know if i should be concerned that my card bought it, no questions asked
#1612 [14:56] <CooliSushi> haha I guess it was the card I had, all I know is paypal was hard for me to work with.
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#1614 [14:57] <CooliSushi> any cool Legit servers you know?
#1615 [14:57] <sugoi> CooliSushi: mine, but it's private :)
#1616 [14:57] <sugoi> ehe
#1617 [14:57] <CooliSushi> oook lol
#1618 [14:57] <CooliSushi> may I join?
#1619 [14:58] <sugoi> actually, i'm interested in finding servers that host kupokupo's maps
#1620 [14:58] <sugoi> not sure how to find those
#1621 [14:58] <CooliSushi> btw I'm not a noob, been playing this game forever (but with the cracked version)
#1622 [14:58] <CooliSushi> so I decided to buy it :)
#1623 [14:58] <CooliSushi> It just felt wrong using that plus couldn't play any servers with it
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#1625 [14:59] <CooliSushi> hi Iguana
#1626 [15:01] <CooliSushi> Okay, I'm going to go study. nice talking with you sugoi ;)
#1627 [15:01] <sugoi> .
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#1631 [15:15] <mib_cnqfyg> CAN SOMEBODY HELP
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#1633 [15:15] <mib_cnqfyg> ?????????????
#1634 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_cnqfyg -OMG OMG, WITH WHAT
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#1636 [15:16] <mib_cnqfyg> It says i cant connect to minecraft .net
#1637 [15:16] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: haha :)
#1638 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_cnqfyg - Has it ever worked before?
#1639 [15:16] <mib_cnqfyg> yeah
#1640 [15:16] <mib_cnqfyg> not long agao
#1641 [15:16] <mib_cnqfyg> ago
#1642 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_cnqfyg - Redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download ?
#1643 [15:17] <mib_cnqfyg> tryed it, didnt work :(
#1644 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Did you launch the new launcher directly, or did you use a shortcut?
#1645 [15:17] <mib_cnqfyg> shortcut
#1646 [15:17] <mib_cnqfyg> from the launcher
#1647 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Download the launcher to your desktop and launch it directly?
#1648 [15:18] <mib_cnqfyg> didnt work
#1649 [15:18] <mib_cnqfyg> :'(
#1650 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Are you using java 6 or 7?
#1651 [15:19] <mib_cnqfyg> no clue
#1652 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? Windows? MacOS? Linux? AmigaOS?
#1653 [15:20] <mib_cnqfyg> Windows
#1654 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> What version of windows?
#1655 [15:20] <mib_cnqfyg> 7
#1656 [15:20] <sugoi> what about just using: http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1657 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> Head to your start menu, go to your control panel. Pull up "Programs and features" and check to see what java is installed
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#1659 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> sugoi - Sure, but sometimes doesn't give all versions of java that are installed on the computer
#1660 [15:21] <mib_cnqfyg> version 6
#1661 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Is version 6 the only version listed?
#1662 [15:22] <mib_cnqfyg> i used that link up there
#1663 [15:22] <mib_cnqfyg> and all it says is 6
#1664 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> Could you check your control panel's programs and features?
#1665 [15:22] <sugoi> sorry --- you should check as grey recommends
#1666 [15:22] <sugoi> mib_cnqfyg: i'm learning as well
#1667 [15:23] <mib_cnqfyg> it says i have 3 copys of the version 6 java
#1668 [15:24] <mib_cnqfyg> im sad :P
#1669 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Pretty normal. Just wanted to make sure java 7 is not installed
#1670 [15:24] <Skynet> Vintage question for you guys: Is there still a way to play MineCraft Classic over Hamachi? Back when it was Creative and not Classic, you could add ip= and port= parameters to the play.jsp URL. Is there a way of doing this now? =)
#1671 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_cnqfyg - You're sure minecraft has worked on that computer before?
#1672 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Skynet - There is not.
#1673 [15:24] <mib_cnqfyg> Yes it has always worked
#1674 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_cnqfyg - What security software do you run?
#1675 [15:24] <Skynet> Heh. Unfortunate. Thanks for the quick reply! ^^
#1676 [15:24] <mib_cnqfyg> norton
#1677 [15:25] <mib_cnqfyg> anti virus
#1678 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> mib_cnqfyg - Does https://login.minecraft.net/?user=notch&password=notreal&version=13 -- return a "Bad login" for you?
#1679 [15:25] <mib_cnqfyg> yeah
#1680 [15:25] <mib_cnqfyg> :(
#1681 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> That's fine, that's what we want
#1682 [15:26] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_cnqfyg: because if notch's password WAS notreal... id be sad.
#1683 [15:26] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :P
#1684 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Would you be willing to turn off norton's internet protection/firewall, just to check?
#1685 [15:26] <sugoi> |Kiikun|Janus|: haha
#1686 [15:26] <mib_cnqfyg> ok
#1687 [15:26] <sugoi> |Kiikun|Janus|: btw, don't check if notch is the username, voxel is edgy about that
#1688 [15:27] <|Kiikun|Janus|> sugoi: thats aubot that autokicks for that :P
#1689 [15:27] <mib_cnqfyg> ok i turn norton off
#1690 [15:27] <sugoi> |Kiikun|Janus|: well they're in cahoots, but thanks for the clarificatin
#1691 [15:27] <mib_cnqfyg> plz dont send a virus
#1692 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Try minecraft now
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#1694 [15:29] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_cnqfyg: we're here to help you. anyone oped or voiced can be considered trustworthy... especially if the links themselves come from AuBot, VoxelHead, or WugBot :3
#1695 [15:29] <mib_cnqfyg> still cant :(
#1696 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> mib_cnqfyg - Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar at the bottom, type in: %userprofile%
#1697 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> Press enter, I just want to make sure that folder has no exclaimation marks (!) in it
#1698 [15:31] <mib_cnqfyg> ok i typed it
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#1700 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> Does it bring up a folder?
#1701 [15:31] <mib_cnqfyg> ya like 7 ( desktop, Music, Pictures
#1702 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Press enter after putting in %userprofile%
#1703 [15:32] <sugoi> hi morton
#1704 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> What does the top address bar say?
#1705 [15:32] <morton> trying to download minecraft. I following the instructions but can't seem to find it on my desk top. we tried to play through the browser but it seems to freeze.
#1706 [15:33] <mib_cnqfyg> the adress bar says my name
#1707 [15:33] <sugoi> morton: looked in your downloads folder?
#1708 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Does that name contain any (!) marks?
#1709 [15:33] <mib_cnqfyg> no
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#1711 [15:34] <sugoi> thor: hello mr thor
#1712 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_cnqfyg - Do you have any other security software on your machine, other than norton?
#1713 [15:35] <mib_cnqfyg> underneath where it says cant connect to minecraft .net in brackets it says (Not Downloaded)
#1714 [15:35] <mib_cnqfyg> whats that mean
#1715 [15:35] <morton> It's not in that folder.
#1716 [15:35] <mib_cnqfyg> and ya Mcafee
#1717 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> The launcher contains no actual game files, it downloads additional files when you log in
#1718 [15:35] <sugoi> morton: can you right click the link and select a download location?
#1719 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> You're running mcafee and norton at the same time?
#1720 [15:36] <mib_cnqfyg> ya
#1721 [15:36] <morton> Not sure but i'll try
#1722 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> It's generally unadvisable to run more than one security software, as they can cause problems together
#1723 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Could you disable mcafee as well and try minecraft?
#1724 [15:36] * sugoi opens another dew
#1724 [15:36] <morton> where an I right clicking
#1725 [15:36] <mib_cnqfyg> idk how to disable mcafee
#1726 [15:37] <sugoi> morton: on the link you would use to download ...
#1727 [15:37] <sugoi> morton: sec
#1728 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_cnqfyg - Look through its options
#1729 [15:37] <mib_cnqfyg> ok its off
#1730 [15:37] <sugoi> morton: what os?
#1731 [15:37] <sugoi> morton: curious if you see .exe or otherwise
#1732 [15:37] <mib_cnqfyg> IT WORKED
#1733 [15:37] <mib_cnqfyg> :D
#1734 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> \o/
#1735 [15:38] <morton> .exe. hope I'm understanding. am I going to try to download again and try to choose a location?
#1736 [15:38] <mib_cnqfyg> i have another question
#1737 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Ask away mib_cnqfyg
#1738 [15:38] <mib_cnqfyg> gre
#1739 [15:38] <sugoi> is it possible to give minecraft permission with norton or (well...'and' in this case) mcafee to hit minecraft.net (and the amazon ws) ?
#1740 [15:38] <mib_cnqfyg> grey
#1741 [15:39] <mib_cnqfyg> Wanna Make a Server together ?
#1742 [15:39] <mib_cnqfyg> :)
#1743 [15:39] <sugoi> morton: yeah...i mean, right now we're dealing with a download issue, not the game yet
#1744 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I'm responsible for a server already.
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#1746 [15:39] <sugoi> morton: so, just below "Client for Windows"
#1747 [15:39] <mib_cnqfyg> Could I Join? ?
#1748 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> mc.minecraftirc.net
#1749 [15:39] <sugoi> see the "Minecraft.exe (270 KB)" link?
#1750 [15:39] <mib_cnqfyg> thats the ip ?
#1751 [15:39] <morton> ok
#1752 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#1754 [15:39] <sugoi> morton: IE? or firefox? or other?
#1755 [15:40] <sugoi> ie "save taret as", ff "save link as"
#1756 [15:40] <antares330> can anyone help me??? i can't connect to any servers online on minecraft classic or 1.0 ...it worked until yesterday
#1757 [15:41] <morton> Now, just minecraft news comes up. should I be downloading the mulitplayer server?
#1758 [15:41] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: [would you recommend] is it possible to give minecraft permission with norton or (well...'and' in this case) mcafee to hit minecraft.net (and the amazon ws) ?
#1759 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> sugoi - Yeah, unfortunately, I'm not familiar with either
#1760 [15:41] <sugoi> morton: only if you want to host the game for your friends to connect together, but it is not needed to play
#1761 [15:41] <sugoi> morton: minecraft news comes up in your browser? or the game? (are you a step ahead?)
#1762 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - Could you try connecting to the server: mc.minecraftirc.net in your 1.0.0 client?
#1763 [15:42] <morton> ok I don't want multiplayer. am trying to download with google crome
#1764 [15:42] <mib_cnqfyg> Thanks for the help bye
#1765 [15:42] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: is mc.minecraftirc.net whitelisted?
#1766 [15:42] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1766 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> sugoi - Shouldn't be
#1767 [15:42] <sugoi> hmm, cool, might check it out later tonight
#1768 [15:42] <antares330> yep
#1769 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - Does that work?
#1770 [15:43] <sugoi> morton: walk me through it....have you tried selecting a specific save location? did that work?
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#1772 [15:43] <antares330> it says cant reach server
#1773 [15:43] <sugoi> morton: sorry, i don't use chrome so i don't know what to expect
#1774 [15:43] <antares330> connection timed out
#1775 [15:43] <morton> It says download...minecraft for windows...download minecraft.exe 270KB.
#1776 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - Then look at your security software, make sure minecraft isn't being blocked.
#1777 [15:44] <bbhavis> purchased premium minecraft and still after a few days, am unable to log in to account...says user not premium
#1778 [15:44] <sugoi> bbhavis: did you use a debit card or prepaid card?
#1779 [15:44] <morton> Minecraft launcher comes up with minecraft news
#1780 [15:44] <sugoi> morton: if you right click, do you get the option to select a download location on your computer?
#1781 [15:44] <sugoi> morton: okok
#1782 [15:44] <bbhavis> debit card and it has already gon through my bank
#1783 [15:45] <sugoi> morton: how did you run the minecraft launcher?
#1784 [15:45] <antares330> GreyVulpine - i have had eset for a quite a while with no problem but yes i did check over and over... and ever shut it off and it still didnt work
#1785 [15:45] <morton> no
#1786 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - Don't suppose you've tried powercycling your router/modem?
#1787 [15:45] <sugoi> bbhavis: ask GreyVulpine ... but i think even with debit and it hit the bank...there could be an issue still
#1788 [15:45] <morton> The minecraft launcher just ran when I clicked minecraft.exe
#1789 [15:45] <sugoi> morton: no?
#1790 [15:46] <antares330> not sure what do you mean???
#1791 [15:46] <sugoi> morton: where did you click that from, inside the browser? (inside chrome)
#1792 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - Have you tried turning off and on your modem and router?
#1793 [15:46] <antares330> yeah
#1794 [15:46] <morton> yes, from minecraft.net
#1795 [15:46] <antares330> should i try that again
#1796 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Recently?
#1797 [15:46] <sugoi> morton: ok, so what's happening is chrome is downloading the file, and running it from a temp folder
#1798 [15:46] <antares330> yeah hold on ill try it again
#1799 [15:46] <sugoi> morton: i would recommend right clicking and saving that file to a place you can find easily
#1800 [15:47] <sugoi> that's the laucnher
#1801 [15:47] <sugoi> launcher*
#1802 [15:47] <morton> i'm sorry not great with computers can I fix this
#1803 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Ctrl+J in chrome to bring up the downloads folder. then "Show in folder" on minecraft.exe to bring up the folder where chrome downloads to
#1804 [15:47] <sugoi> morton: the launcher isn't the game...but it connects to minecraft.net and downloads the game (or updates)
#1805 [15:47] <sugoi> morton: ^^ and what grey said to find where the file was already saved
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#1807 [15:48] <bbhavis> after i download it takes me to log in screen then tells me I am not a premium user, but i have purchased premium
#1808 [15:48] <sugoi> bbhavis: i think debit purchases have issues
#1809 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> bbhavis - Did you get a receipt or email confirming payment?
#1810 [15:48] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: bbhavis used debit a few days ago, showing on account, but no premium
#1811 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> bbhavis - I would first call your bank, ensure that the payment went through alright, and wasn't reversed or blocked
#1812 [15:49] <sugoi> morton: the 'minecraft news' window you see is the game btw---it's just nice to know where that .exe is
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#1814 [15:49] <bbhavis> im certain it wasnt blocked and that payment went through
#1815 [15:49] <sugoi> morton: you'll run that exe each time you want to play, do you see the login in the bottom right?
#1816 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> bbhavis - Did you get any receipt when you paid for minecraft?
#1817 [15:49] <sugoi> bbhavis: sometimes banks show transactions that are actually holds (holding money), but may not be finished (ie pending)
#1818 [15:50] <sugoi> bbhavis: but grey is right, check your email for a receipt
#1819 [15:50] <sugoi> bbhavis: that comes right away, even before the purchase is complete
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#1821 [15:51] <mariobuddy> hello my minecraft keep saying it crashs everytime i log on
#1822 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Got a file named hs_err_pid?
#1823 [15:51] <mariobuddy> what?
#1824 [15:52] <morton> yes I see the login
#1825 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> When minecraft crashes, do you see a file labeled hs_err_Pid where you have the launcher
#1826 [15:52] <bbhavis> i have not received any receipt of payment at this point, but bank has payment as no longer pending and complete...any where else i can contact for further help
#1827 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> bbhavis - Send an email to help@mojang.com
#1828 [15:52] <bbhavis> thx
#1829 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Include your username, payment info, and such.
#1830 [15:52] <mariobuddy> no it does not
#1831 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> mariobuddy - Do you get any error messages?
#1832 [15:52] <mariobuddy> yes
#1833 [15:52] <morton> ok I clicked the login Can I put a shortcut on the desktop
#1834 [15:53] <sugoi> bbhavis: i also would check that your purchase (in your bank statement) is showing the right description
#1835 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> mariobuddy - Please copy the contents of the error report. Paste it at www.pastebin.com, submit it, and give us the URL
#1836 [15:53] <mariobuddy> ok
#1837 [15:53] <sugoi> morton: update?
#1838 [15:53] <morton> isn't this running from the link through the internet
#1839 [15:54] <mariobuddy> http://pastebin.com/CT0qNJd0
#1840 [15:54] <mariobuddy> there you go
#1841 [15:54] <sugoi> morton: no - chrome downloaded the file locally, then started it
#1842 [15:54] <morton> ok I'll give it a try thanks
#1843 [15:54] <sugoi> morton: GreyVulpine gave the good advice to use Ctrl+J to see downloads (chrome hotkey) and open file location
#1844 [15:54] <sugoi> .
#1845 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> mariobuddy - Please try uninstalling and reinstalling java from your computer. If that doesn't work, you can try updating your video drivers.
#1846 [15:55] <mariobuddy> how do you update your video driver?
#1847 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Try the java uninstall/reinstall first
#1848 [15:55] <mariobuddy> ok
#1849 [15:56] <mariobuddy> brb
#1850 [15:56] <mariobuddy> how do you uninstall java?
#1851 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> You're on windows?
#1852 [15:57] <mariobuddy> yes
#1853 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> What version? XP? vista? 7?
#1854 [15:57] <mariobuddy> Vista i think
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#1856 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Head to your start menu, go to the control panel. Hit Programs and features or Uninstall a program. Look for java in that list, uninstall all java
#1857 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> You can then reinstall java from java.com
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#1859 [15:58] <antares330> im back it doesnt work
#1860 [15:58] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: it's windows 7 (as per the pastebin) just fyi
#1861 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - Running any other security software other than eset?
#1862 [15:58] <antares330> nope
#1863 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> sugoi - Yeah, noticed that..
#1864 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - Don't suppose you're running any mods at all?
#1865 [15:59] <antares330> nope...
#1866 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> Are you running just the antivirus, or the security suite for Eset?
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#1868 [16:00] <antares330> suite 5
#1869 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried connecting to a server via the inbrowser client at minecraft.net?
#1870 [16:01] <cybersahdow> does anyone know if there are issues? with the game client updating and stuff
#1871 [16:01] <antares330> yeah i cant play classic or 1.0
#1872 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> There currently is not, cybersahdow.
#1873 [16:01] <cybersahdow> hmm
#1874 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> cybersahdow - Describe your problem.
#1875 [16:02] <antares330> does mineshafter ruin it... my brother wanted to kinda test it out be4 they buy and used mineshafter
#1876 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, yeah it does
#1877 [16:02] * GreyVulpine sighs
#1877 [16:02] <cybersahdow> when i try to force update/ delete the .minecraft and re-run client the client keeps getting connection errors and sometimes it stops at 5% during update
#1878 [16:03] <antares330> any idea how to fix it???
#1879 [16:03] <antares330> they are buying premuim accounts to... but is mine worthless??
#1880 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - Delete the mineshafter client, redownload the client fresh from minecraft.net, next, go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#1881 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder. Delete everything inside except for "saves"
#1882 [16:04] <antares330> i have tried that... but they only played on other computer on the same network... i dont think they ever used this computer
#1883 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> cybersahdow - Has it ever worked before?
#1884 [16:05] <cybersahdow> ya
#1885 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> cybersahdow - On that computer, with that account?
#1886 [16:05] <antares330> i've uninstalled java minecraft then reinstalled it
#1887 [16:06] <cybersahdow> ya
#1888 [16:06] <cybersahdow> its worked before
#1889 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - So you can log into minecraft just fine, just can't connect to any multiplayer servers at all?
#1890 [16:06] <antares330> yeah
#1891 [16:06] <cybersahdow> no, i can login but when the client tries to update, it timesout and wont update at all
#1892 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - Points me to a firewall/security issue for you.. could you try disabling the firewall portion of Eset?
#1893 [16:07] <cybersahdow> both the java jar and the windows exe
#1894 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> cybersahdow - What version of java do you run?
#1895 [16:08] <cybersahdow> java version "1.7.0_01" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_01-b08) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 21.1-b02, mixed mode)
#1896 [16:08] <sugoi> tada
#1897 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Ah hah
#1898 [16:08] <antares330> i disabled them and it didnt work should i shut it down then try??
#1899 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> cybersahdow - Java 7's been known to cause problems for many people. I'd recommend uninstalling java 7 and going with 6 instead.
#1900 [16:09] <mariobuddy> ok im reinstalling java right now
#1901 [16:09] <antares330> O and forgot to mention... it started happening in a coffee shop
#1902 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - Could be the coffee shop's blocking access?
#1903 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - Could you try it somewhere where you have better access, like at home?
#1904 [16:10] <mariobuddy> GreyVulpine it didnt work how do you update the video drivers
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#1906 [16:11] <antares330> i got a code it worked for the first while....then off...but now im back at home on my network
#1907 [16:11] <sugoi> antares330: may we confirm your username?
#1908 [16:11] <sugoi> antares330: for example, mine is payonel
#1909 [16:11] <sugoi> !paid payonel
#1910 [16:11] <antares330> confirm?? as in make sure its premuim??
#1911 [16:12] <mib_eka1lz> if i buy minecraft on my account and i get a new computer, will i be able to use it on that computer?
#1912 [16:12] <sugoi> antares330: yeah, it's just something to check
#1913 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> mib_eka1lz - Yes.
#1914 [16:12] <antares330> mine is antares330
#1915 [16:12] <sugoi> !paid antares330
#1916 [16:12] <mib_eka1lz> thank you
#1917 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> mib_eka1lz - You can install minecraft on any computer you own, there's no DRM
#1918 [16:12] <sugoi> antares330: well that's good :)
#1919 [16:12] <antares330> yeah
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#1921 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> mariobuddy - Could you go to your start menu, in the saerch bar, type in: dxdiag
#1922 [16:13] <mariobuddy> ok i did
#1923 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> mariobuddy - Do you see a button labeled 'Save all information" in the bottom right?
#1924 [16:13] <mariobuddy> yes
#1925 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> mariobuddy - Please press it, then save the document on your desktop
#1926 [16:14] <mariobuddy> ok
#1927 [16:14] <antares330> is there anything else i can try???
#1928 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> mariobuddy - Next, open up the dxdiag.txt on your desktop, copy everything inside. Paste it at www.pastebin.com, submit it, then give us the URL
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#1930 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - Hmm. got access to any other computers?
#1931 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Just wondering if it's a network issue, or something local on that machine specifically.
#1932 [16:16] <antares330> i've tried on 3 on this network classic
#1933 [16:16] <antares330> and 2 on 1.0
#1934 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> So it's a network issue.
#1935 [16:16] <antares330> proly
#1936 [16:17] <antares330> but why wouldnt it work at the coffee shop??
#1937 [16:17] <mariobuddy> did you get it GreyVulpine?
#1938 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> mariobuddy - Get what?
#1939 [16:17] <mariobuddy> the PM
#1940 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - Hmm. Could be that the coffee shop's prohibited access?
#1941 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> mariobuddy - There's nothing at that URL you gave me
#1942 [16:18] <antares330> its a wallhouse if you buy something u get 90 min access...
#1943 [16:18] <antares330> it worked for the first hour... i was waiting on my sister
#1944 [16:19] <mariobuddy> http://pastebin.com/dC8YzAAE
#1945 [16:22] <mariobuddy> anything?
#1946 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> mariobuddy - Could you try downloading and installing these drivers: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20601&ProdId=3048&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20Home%20Premium%2C%2064-bit%20version*&DownloadType=Drivers
#1947 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - I'm a bit stumped then.
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#1950 [16:25] <mariobuddy> ok its downloading
#1951 [16:25] <antares330> me to
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#1954 [16:25] <antares330> i've tried everything
#1955 [16:25] <iExrtant> do you have to be on a certain difficulty or can you still play on peaceful to find diamond?
#1956 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Difficulty doesn't affect ore placement
#1957 [16:26] <iExrtant> alright thank you
#1958 [16:26] <cybersahdow> thxs downgrading java seemed to fix my issue
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#1960 [16:26] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1960 [16:26] <antares330> :):) good for u
#1961 [16:27] <antares330> so you don't know anything that might help???
#1962 [16:27] <cybersahdow> what you having a problem with?....
#1963 [16:28] <antares330> not sure just cant connect to any servers classic or 1.0
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#1965 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - Do you have a seperate router from your modem, or are both the same box?
#1966 [16:29] <Jif> Hi all. I am still looking to get my sound working in minecraft for the first time. I am closer than I ever have been. if I use the lwjgl openal64.dll minecraft shows up in my mixer now. the equalizer bar moves up and down as if it is playing. it looks like it is a speaker problem but the sound works in every thing else. Anyone have any ideas?
#1967 [16:29] <antares330> could u rephrase i cant quite understand what your saying
#1968 [16:29] <clarjon1> Jif: What's your default sound device?
#1969 [16:30] <Jif> via high definition audio on asus mb
#1970 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> When you said you turned your modem and router off, are those two the same thing, or are they two seperate boxes?
#1971 [16:30] <clarjon1> hm
#1972 [16:30] <Jif> i can hit the configure button and hit test and it plays
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#1974 [16:30] <antares330> nope they are the same
#1975 [16:30] <Jif> before i switched dlls minecraft would just crash
#1976 [16:30] <cybersahdow> is ur sound turned down in mc?
#1977 [16:31] <Sonic> I bought the program but it will not download and it will not play in my web browser any suggestions
#1978 [16:31] <Jif> no 100%
#1979 [16:31] <antares330> sonic - how long ago did you buy it??
#1980 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - Could you try turning the modem off and on one more time?
#1981 [16:32] <Sonic> two days ago
#1982 [16:32] <antares330> yep
#1983 [16:32] <antares330> brb
#1984 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Sonic - Has it ever worked before?
#1985 [16:32] <Sonic> no we are first timers
#1986 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Sonic - What exactly happens when you try to run minecraft?
#1987 [16:33] <Jif> is there a way to force it to use 32 bit?
#1988 [16:33] <Sonic> I can log on but when I go to download it puts the icon on the desktop but it does not run and there are no exe files
#1989 [16:33] <cybersahdow> sonic- do you have the client downloaded? but it dont want to install or update?
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#1991 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Sonic - What operating system? Windows? MacOS? Linux? AmigaOS?
#1992 [16:34] <mib_e2ep0o> hey guys'
#1993 [16:34] <Sonic> I think it is the client but I cannot be sure.
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#1995 [16:34] <Sonic> My OS is Win 7
#1996 [16:35] <mib_e2ep0o> GreyVulpine, howmuch do you get paid ?
#1997 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Sonic - So you've downloaded minecraft.exe via minecraft.net/download, ran it, and it doesn't do anything?
#1998 [16:35] <Sonic> $26.
#1999 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_e2ep0o - I get paid exactly 0 dolalrs.
#2000 [16:35] <Jif> I tried it via command line. The one that works does not give me this: AL lib: DoReset: Failed to set 44100hz, got 48000hz instead
#2001 [16:35] <iextant> how would you recommend rinding diamonds?
#2002 [16:35] <Sonic> Sorry wrong conversation
#2003 [16:35] <sugoi> iextant: wiki shows distribution
#2004 [16:35] <mib_e2ep0o> Wow man, you're here since 2010 helping people for free.
#2005 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> iextant - Dig deep. Find pools of lava. Diamond is usually around there
#2006 [16:35] <iextant> thnx
#2007 [16:35] <mib_e2ep0o> You're awesome.
#2008 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_e2ep0o - Basically, yeah.
#2009 [16:35] <sugoi> iextant: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:PercentOfOreByHeight.png
#2010 [16:36] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: :)
#2011 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Sonic - So you've downloaded minecraft.exe via minecraft.net/download, ran it, and it doesn't do anything?
#2012 [16:36] <mib_e2ep0o> GreyVulpine: If I was Mojang, I would have invited you to Minecon for free and have gave you a huge prize.
#2013 [16:36] <Sonic> Correct
#2014 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, unfortunately, Mojang's kinda forgotten about us.
#2015 [16:37] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: mojang maybe, but not jerb
#2016 [16:37] * GreyVulpine nods
#2016 [16:37] <mib_e2ep0o> :( Oh
#2017 [16:37] <antares330> nope doesnt work
#2018 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> Sonic - How much RAM do you have on that computer? Also, do you have java installed?
#2019 [16:37] * sugoi bets he doesn't have java
#2019 [16:38] <Sonic> I installed the latest Java but it is not Java 64, let me check on RAM
#2020 [16:38] * sugoi fails
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#2021 [16:38] <cybersahdow> what java? version?
#2022 [16:38] <sugoi> unless 1.7?
#2023 [16:38] <mib_e2ep0o> I'am not sure if you remember someone named Product, it's me. I just came here to chill for a while to continue studying.
#2024 [16:38] <sugoi> :)
#2025 [16:38] <Sonic> 1.6GB RAM
#2026 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I remember ya Product.
#2027 [16:38] <mib_e2ep0o> GreyVulpine: Thanks for remembering me :)
#2028 [16:38] <mib_e2ep0o> It gives me a good feeling.
#2029 [16:38] <sugoi> mib_e2ep0o: feel free to /nick Product :)
#2030 [16:38] <Jif> OOOO!!!!!! I AM A ROCKSTAR!!!!!
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#2033 [16:38] <sugoi> haha
#2034 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Sonic - Could you attempt to run minecraft with these instructions? http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#2035 [16:39] <Product> Thanks Sonic.
#2036 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Sonic - It'll run minecraft in a command prompt, will also give us an idea of what error it's putting out.
#2037 [16:39] <Sonic> I will try anything...thanks
#2038 [16:39] <antares330> nope didnt work
#2039 [16:39] * sugoi cheers for Product
#2039 [16:39] <Product> :) Thanks.
#2040 [16:39] <Jif> Advanced properties of my speakers - default format. was set to 24 bit 480000 Hz changed to 24bit, 48000 hz
#2041 [16:39] <Jif> works now!!!!
#2042 [16:40] <Product> Some time ago, I've made this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfflxT05ZAc while I was coming here regulary.
#2043 [16:40] <antares330> :) jif
#2044 [16:40] <Product> It's a noob-friendly video to help reinstalling Minecraft.
#2045 [16:40] <Jif> been fighting that for days
#2046 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> antares330 - Hmm. Stick around, maybe somebody else will have an idea.
#2047 [16:41] <antares330> k
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#2049 [16:41] <Jif> I found this way to start minecraft: "%ProgramFiles(x86)%\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -cp "%APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\*" -Djava.library.path="%APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\natives"
#2050 [16:41] <skippydippy> hi
#2051 [16:41] <Jif> anyone know anything else about starting it this way?
#2052 [16:42] <Jif> like what are those options I am putting in there?
#2053 [16:42] <Morrolan> xms is the amount of memory it uses at startup, xmx the maximum it is allowed to take.
#2054 [16:42] <iextant> alll the way at the bottom what is the blackish greyish rock called? and can you destroy it?
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#2056 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> iextant - You cannot, it's bedrock
#2057 [16:42] <iextant> alright
#2058 [16:42] <sugoi> Jif: you're telling java where to find the things it needs
#2059 [16:42] <Jif> That's how i started it to get the error message.
#2060 [16:42] <sugoi> Jif: the Xms is min ram, Xmx is max
#2061 [16:42] <Morrolan> THen the thing at the very front is the path to Java, Jif.
#2062 [16:42] <antares330> iextant - bedrock and its unbreakable
#2063 [16:43] <Jif> right, is there a list of available options somewhere?
#2064 [16:43] <sugoi> Morrolan: :)
#2065 [16:43] <Morrolan> iextant: Every now and then it's also called "adminium"
#2066 [16:43] <Jif> like can i add the server to connect to right in the string?
#2067 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Jif - There is not.
#2068 [16:43] <Morrolan> or some people call it "badrock" - blargh.
#2069 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Erm yeah
#2070 [16:43] <Product> Guys, I gotta go finish Chemistry and some IT, cya everyone :)
#2071 [16:43] <Morrolan> Jif: Yes you can, but you'll also have to specify ussername and password.
#2072 [16:43] <Morrolan> cya Product
#2073 [16:43] <Product> Cya :)
#2074 [16:43] <Morrolan> Jif: I do not know about the exact syntax anymore though.
#2075 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Jif - See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_launcher#Command-line_usage
#2076 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Has an example there
#2077 [16:44] <Morrolan> It was added a whiiile ago, and never improved. It basically sucks.
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#2079 [16:44] <Morrolan> Oh, yea, there it is. :D
#2080 [16:45] <sugoi> Morrolan: i use the minecraft.jar to start a named offline session (for when login auth is offline [rare, but happens])
#2081 [16:45] <sugoi> Morrolan: can that be done with the launcher?
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#2083 [16:45] <sugoi> Morrolan: named i.e. not player###
#2084 [16:45] <Morrolan> I don't think so.
#2085 [16:45] <mib_wjjwkj> help
#2086 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe you can do that with the launcher
#2087 [16:45] <woutwoot> Hey, This showed up after having paid MC with paypal: Oops, an error occured This exception has been logged with id #######. I lost my money, account not activated. I mailed daniel, I submittet support form, nothing after 6 days, you are my last hope ...
#2088 [16:46] <sugoi> meh, ok
#2089 [16:46] <mib_wjjwkj> my screen gets black when i open minecraft :(
#2090 [16:46] <woutwoot> Modded ?
#2091 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_wjjwkj - Has it worked before? Did you use any mods?
#2092 [16:46] <mib_wjjwkj> no
#2093 [16:46] <Morrolan> woutwoot: Nothing we can do but link you to Mojang's support.
#2094 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> help@mojang.com
#2095 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> daniel apparently doesn't do account support anymore, has directed support to help@
#2096 [16:46] <Morrolan> A new mail adress? Now that's a way of dealing with mail overflow in existing ones...
#2097 [16:46] <mib_wjjwkj> first it worked prefectly and then it was allways black screen
#2098 [16:47] <antares330> so why do you think i cant even join classic???
#2099 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_wjjwkj - What operating system?
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#2101 [16:47] <woutwoot> Their support sucks
#2102 [16:47] <mib_wjjwkj> what u mean?
#2103 [16:47] <Jif> i see i can specify my name with net.minecraft.client.Minecraft how could i specify server?
#2104 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_wjjwkj - Windows? Mac? Linux? AmigaOS?
#2105 [16:47] <Morrolan> sugoi: If I'm not mistaken you need a modified client to start a "named" session anyway?
#2106 [16:47] <mib_wjjwkj> windows
#2107 [16:47] <sugoi> Morrolan: not modded
#2108 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_wjjwkj - What version? XP? Vista? 7?
#2109 [16:47] <mib_wjjwkj> vista
#2110 [16:48] <Jif> net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2111 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_wjjwkj - Head to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#2112 [16:48] <Jif> will try that
#2113 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_wjjwkj - Find the .minecraft folder, delete everything inside except for "Saves". Then try minecraft again
#2114 [16:48] <Morrolan> Jif: Nothing like that, just add your name, password and server AFTER the existing command.
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#2116 [16:48] <mib_wjjwkj> ok
#2117 [16:49] <Morrolan> "java -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame Morrolan TotallyMyPassword minecraft.lethal-zone.eu" for example, Jif.
#2118 [16:49] <mib_wjjwkj> i deleted everything except saves
#2119 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_wjjwkj - Then run minecraft
#2120 [16:49] <Sonic> Bad video card drivers!
#2121 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Ah-hah
#2122 [16:50] <Sonic> I went to the Intel site and updated all my drivers but it still will not work
#2123 [16:50] <mib_wjjwkj> it works :S
#2124 [16:50] <mib_wjjwkj> it works:D
#2125 [16:50] <skippydippy> i know you guys will probbly be sent to the fourms i want to know why when ever i installl modloader and/or no other mods it crashes what should i do! please help :(
#2126 [16:50] <mib_wjjwkj> it works :D
#2127 [16:50] <mib_wjjwkj> thanx a lot greyvulpine :D
#2128 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_wjjwkj - Glad to hear it
#2129 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Sonic - What video card do you have?
#2130 [16:50] <Morrolan> skippydippy: How you can fix it, or what the reasons are?
#2131 [16:51] <Morrolan> skippydippy: Might be me being tired, but I don't fully understand your sentence.
#2132 [16:51] <Morrolan> Oh, I think I slowly get it. Reasons for it crashing can be you forgetting to remove the Meta-Inf folder, an incomapatible or outdated mod, or a bug in the mod.
#2133 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, you installed modloader wrong. Possibilities include, installing it on a mac, installing the wrong version of modloader, installing modloader without deleting met-inf..
#2134 [16:51] <Sonic> have to get the exact spec using a Toshiba Tecra Intel Centrino Duo machine is 4yrs old
#2135 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> and ninja'd
#2136 [16:52] <antares330> mib wjjwkj - good for u :)
#2137 [16:52] <skippydippy> i mean when i install modloader with or with out other mods when i start minecraft it crashes ans yes, i DO delete the meta.inf file
#2138 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Where did you get modloader from?
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#2140 [16:53] <skippydippy> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/75440-v100-risugamis-mods-everything-updated/ at the rugasumi's mods fourm
#2141 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - What operating system?
#2142 [16:53] <skippydippy> windows
#2143 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Got winrar or 7zip?
#2144 [16:53] <Morrolan> Time for me to catch some sleep, g'night.
#2145 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Night Morrolan.
#2146 [16:53] <antares330> gnight
#2147 [16:53] <skippydippy> 7 zip
#2148 [16:53] <Sonic> Mobile Intel 945GM
#2149 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - So you went to %appdata%/.minecraft/bin/, found the minecraft.jar file there. Opened it up in 7zip. Then you opened up modloader, dragged the files over into minecraft.jar, and deleted meta-inf from minecraft.jar, right?
#2150 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Sonic - Did you use intel's driver update utility, or did you manually search for the latest drivers from intel's site?
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#2152 [16:58] <skippydippy> back and yes
#2153 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Are you running Minecraft 1.0.0?
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#2155 [16:58] <skippydippy> yes
#2156 [16:58] <midget1102> hello
#2157 [16:58] <skippydippy> they have updated too
#2158 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Then that should be working.
#2159 [16:58] <skippydippy> ik
#2160 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Got teamviewer?
#2161 [16:59] <midget1102> can anyone tell me if they have updated craftbukkit yet
#2162 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> They have
#2163 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> Check #bukkit
#2164 [16:59] <mib_wjjwkj> can i ask something?how do i change item from the bar at the bottom of the gamescreen?
#2165 [16:59] <skippydippy> but for ome reason even on eairlyer veresions it doesnt work
#2166 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> mib_wjjwkj - Depends, are you on survival or creative?
#2167 [16:59] <mib_wjjwkj> survival
#2168 [16:59] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: can i ?!?! easy one :)
#2169 [16:59] <midget1102> how do i goto another channel
#2170 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> Just hit e, and click and drag the icon to the bar
#2171 [17:00] <sugoi> :(
#2172 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> midget1102 - /join #bukkit
#2173 [17:00] <skippydippy> were you asking me if i have team veiwer?
#2174 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy -Yes
#2175 [17:00] <midget1102> thank you
#2176 [17:00] <mib_wjjwkj> and to change it without pressing e?
#2177 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_wjjwkj - You cannot
#2178 [17:00] <skippydippy> no
#2179 [17:00] <mib_wjjwkj> ow okay tahnks :D
#2180 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Do you mind downloading Teamviewer and running it? It'll allow me to watch what you're doing.
#2181 [17:01] <skippydippy> k
#2182 [17:01] <skippydippy> link plese?
#2183 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> ?? teamviewer
#2184 [17:01] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#2185 [17:01] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#2186 [17:01] <skippydippy> please * :)
#2187 [17:03] <skippydippy> my id is: 244 235 835 and the pass is: 7085
#2188 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Gah, close teamviewer and launch it again
#2189 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> This time. PM me the information, instead of posting it in chat.
#2190 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Use: /msg greyvulpine ID and password
#2191 [17:04] <skippydippy> k
#2192 [17:04] <antares330> :)
#2193 [17:04] <cybersahdow> Teamviewer is a great app use it all the time
#2194 [17:05] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: could (should) voxel check for teamview login info and block it?
#2195 [17:05] <antares330> voxel head do u trouble shoot??
#2196 [17:05] <sugoi> w/o kicks...
#2197 [17:05] <sugoi> antares330: haha, bot
#2198 [17:05] <antares330> O
#2199 [17:05] * sugoi pets VoxelHead
#2199 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> I've used it so much here, that teamviewer thinks I'm doing it commercially, and limits my sessions to 5 minutes, on 3 seperate computers
#2200 [17:05] <antares330> i just want to get my minecraft working
#2201 [17:05] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: k'oh
#2202 [17:05] <sugoi> rude
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#2204 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Still waiting on that PM
#2205 [17:06] <mib_kzonlg> is this the place where I can get help with minecraft?
#2206 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it is
#2207 [17:07] <mib_kzonlg> ok so maybe you can help me :)
#2208 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps.
#2209 [17:07] <skippydippy> do i go to remote control or meeting
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#2211 [17:07] <mib_wjjwkj> how do i get the 3x3 crafting i got 2x2
#2212 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Just /msg greyvulpine ID and password
#2213 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_wjjwkj - craft a workbench
#2214 [17:07] <antares330> 4 planks
#2215 [17:07] <skippydippy> k
#2216 [17:07] <antares330> then place it
#2217 [17:08] <mib_wjjwkj> how do i place it?
#2218 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Right click
#2219 [17:08] <mib_wjjwkj> thanx :D
#2220 [17:08] <mib_kzonlg> 4 days ago I purchased minecraft, the payment was successful, but since then I haven't been able to play minecraft.
#2221 [17:09] <mib_kzonlg> I've already sent an report to the support team, but haven't had a reply
#2222 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, we're not Mojang, we community-run support, and thus, cannot help with account issues
#2223 [17:09] <mib_kzonlg> :(
#2224 [17:09] <antares330> did u make sure that ur login info is right??
#2225 [17:09] <mib_kzonlg> yep
#2226 [17:09] <mib_kzonlg> double checked it
#2227 [17:10] <antares330> does it login??
#2228 [17:10] <mib_kzonlg> it does
#2229 [17:10] <skippydippy> im sorry but im new to team viewer so can you set it up?
#2230 [17:10] <mib_kzonlg> but then it still says: purchase minecraft now
#2231 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Send off and email to help@mojang.com with a description of your issue.
#2232 [17:10] <mib_wjjwkj> im right clicking cant place it?
#2233 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> an*
#2234 [17:10] <antares330> cant help u.. sry
#2235 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_wjjwkj - Did you place the workbench in your hotbar at the bottom?
#2236 [17:10] <mib_wjjwkj> yes
#2237 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_wjjwkj - Select it, then right click with it on the ground
#2238 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you have space
#2239 [17:11] <mib_kzonlg> I'll send an email to that adress thanks !
#2240 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - when you /msged me, you did "ID and password", instead of replacing it with the actual teamviewer ID and password
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#2242 [17:12] <skippydippy> oh lol ok'
#2243 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Could you please private message me again with the actual teamviewer 9 digit ID and 4 digit password?
#2244 [17:12] <quibbit> it says i need java or omthing
#2245 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> java.com
#2246 [17:12] <skippydippy> Just /msg greyvulpine 244 235 835 and 7085
#2247 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Stop posting that in here.
#2248 [17:13] <skippydippy> there
#2249 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Close down teamviewer, run it again, then just PM me the password
#2250 [17:13] <skippydippy> k
#2251 [17:13] <mib_wjjwkj> stiill cant place it its night is it possible cuz its night?
#2252 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> No, you should be able to place it at night as well
#2253 [17:14] <mib_wjjwkj> im right clicking but it doesnt help
#2254 [17:14] <antares330> make sure ur not in the way
#2255 [17:14] <mib_wjjwkj> i was in the f*cking way lmfao xD
#2256 [17:15] <antares330> :):)
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#2258 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Still waiting on your 4 digit password. please /msg me
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#2262 [17:17] <antares330> g2g ill be back later
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#2265 [17:25] <elias> hello?
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#2267 [17:26] <quibbit> why wont minecraft run
#2268 [17:26] <sugoi> elias: hi
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#2270 [17:26] <sugoi> quibbit: do you have an error you can share?
#2271 [17:26] <elias> i set up a server and when i connect is says conection lost what do i do
#2272 [17:26] <sugoi> elias: that was very common with version 1.0.0
#2273 [17:26] <sugoi> elias: have you updated your server to 1.0.1 ?
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#2275 [17:27] <quibbit> well it says it requries java but im not sue what java is
#2276 [17:27] <elias> where can i get that download?
#2277 [17:27] <sugoi> :java
#2278 [17:27] <WugBot> java: Java sucks and is stupid.
#2279 [17:27] <sugoi> haha
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#2281 [17:27] * sugoi failed
#2281 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> :j
#2282 [17:27] <sugoi> quibbit: http://java.com/en/download
#2283 [17:27] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#2284 [17:28] <sugoi> quibbit: get version 6, not 7
#2285 [17:28] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: ah
#2286 [17:28] <sugoi> :)
#2287 [17:28] <quibbit> whats the difference
#2288 [17:28] <sugoi> quibbit: use what WugBot said
#2289 [17:28] <sugoi> quibbit: 7 has given us issues, 6 works
#2290 [17:29] <sugoi> elias: the latest minecraft binaries are at minecraft.net/download
#2291 [17:29] <sugoi> elias: look at the bottom of the page, you'll find the server link
#2292 [17:29] <quibbit> ok ill try it but what is java what does it do
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#2294 [17:29] <sugoi> quibbit: it a common tool now used on computers to run different types of programs
#2295 [17:29] <sugoi> quibbit: minecraft is a java program
#2296 [17:30] <quibbit> do i need to pay?
#2297 [17:30] <sugoi> quibbit: nope, free
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#2299 [17:30] <sugoi> quibbit: it is VERY common -- millions of people use it
#2300 [17:30] <quibbit> will it ruin my computer
#2301 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> No.
#2302 [17:30] <quibbit> anything to it
#2303 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Download and install
#2304 [17:31] <sugoi> quibbit: totally safe -- you just install and java apps will run
#2305 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Guy trying to use modloader, forgot to clear out his .minecraft folder of prior mods. Didn't know that force update only cleared /bin.
#2306 [17:31] <quibbit> do i have to have an account
#2307 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Not for java, nope.
#2308 [17:32] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: and mods load without a mod'd client? i would think a normal client doesn't look for mods (and a normal client comes with force update)
#2309 [17:32] <sugoi> no?
#2310 [17:32] * sugoi mods his server, not the clients
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#2311 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> The thing was, modloader has a 'mods' folder that it creates. He had prior mods in that folder. He force updated, got a new minecraft.jar, updated it with the latest modloader.. but still had mods in the mods folder
#2312 [17:33] <sugoi> ah
#2313 [17:33] <sugoi> but also true to needing a mod'd client for mods?
#2314 [17:33] * GreyVulpine nods
#2314 [17:33] <sugoi> k
#2315 [17:33] <mib_wjjwkj> is there an official minecraft forum where you can exchange servers?
#2316 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#2317 [17:33] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2318 [17:33] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2319 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2320 [17:34] <mib_wjjwkj> thanx
#2321 [17:34] <mib_wjjwkj> i am banned from smp?
#2322 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> No, just mibbit is
#2323 [17:34] <mib_wjjwkj> i cantjoin it
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#2325 [17:35] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: as per the channel or is it on freenode?
#2326 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to download an IRC client of your own, the free webchat you're on now is banned from it
#2327 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> the channel has mibbit!*@* banned.
#2328 [17:35] <sugoi> mib_wjjwkj: you're using mibbit right now to talk here....but not everyone is
#2329 [17:35] <sugoi> dang
#2330 [17:35] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: so a custom name would work too?
#2331 [17:35] <elias> my server still loses connection when i try to connect to it. in the minecraft screeb itself it says "server responded with an invalid server key" what do i do
#2332 [17:35] * sugoi notices no one seems to change their username...
#2332 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> sugoi - er, crap, *!mibbit@*
#2333 [17:36] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: ah
#2334 [17:36] * GreyVulpine keeps forgetting nick!ident@host
#2334 [17:36] <sugoi> elias: the really sounds like pre1.0.1 issue there...
#2335 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, the invalid server key is a 1.0.0 issue
#2336 [17:36] <sugoi> elias: when you started the server, did you notice what version it said it was
#2337 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Was fixed in 1.0.1
#2338 [17:36] <elias> i just downloaded a new server from minecraft.net and tried and get the same problem
#2339 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> What's the first line say, when you launch minecraft_server?
#2340 [17:37] <sugoi> elias: grey's question is mine too...starting the server will tell us the version number
#2341 [17:38] <sugoi> elias: also...are you using server mods (just checking our issue is vanilla)
#2342 [17:38] <elias> it still says 1.0.0 but i dont understand i just downloaded it two minutes ago
#2343 [17:38] <sugoi> elias: just double check your using the new download in your start command
#2344 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> cached file probably.
#2345 [17:38] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: under what os would/could it cache that?
#2346 [17:38] <sugoi> i use gentoo, and command line directly to the server jar
#2347 [17:38] <sugoi> elias: you're*
#2348 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> sugoi - ISP could cache it. or browser.
#2349 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> elias - Could you use this link? https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe?blarg
#2350 [17:39] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: oh...you mean the file he downloaded
#2351 [17:39] <quibbit> it says i gotta enter my email
#2352 [17:39] <sugoi> quibbit: i actually think you can skip that
#2353 [17:39] <sugoi> quibbit: but if not, just give it a bogus one
#2354 [17:39] <sugoi> quibbit: it's java's way to see who is downloading it
#2355 [17:39] <sugoi> quibbit: i give it my junk mail one sometimes
#2356 [17:41] <quibbit> it says i gotta pay or somthing
#2357 [17:41] <sugoi> quibbit: if so, you're on the wrong page
#2358 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> For java? No you don't.
#2359 [17:41] <elias> i downloaded the link but it will not let me open or move it at all
#2360 [17:42] <sugoi> elias: what os?
#2361 [17:42] <elias> vista
#2362 [17:42] <sugoi> elias: it is in your downloads folder?
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#2364 [17:42] <sugoi> quibbit: go to http://java.com/en/, and click "free java download" big red button
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#2366 [17:42] <elias> yes its in m y folder
#2367 [17:43] <sugoi> quibbit: actually, why did i give you that link, didn't you already have a link from WugBot ?
#2368 [17:43] <sugoi> :j
#2369 [17:43] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#2370 [17:43] <sugoi> quibbit: use that ^
#2371 [17:44] <sugoi> elias: and can you right click the file, cut ... then go to your 'server' folder and paste it?
#2372 [17:44] <sugoi> elias: sorry if that is confusing, i'm not sure where you are putting your server stuff
#2373 [17:44] <sugoi> elias: oh oh...
#2374 [17:44] <sugoi> elias: are you saying windows doesn't want to run it because it is untrusted?
#2375 [17:44] <flabbergaster> I try to play the game but i get a box with an X in the upper left corner
#2376 [17:44] <sugoi> flabbergaster: weren't you here last night with Scott ?
#2377 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster's a random mibbit name
#2378 [17:45] <sugoi> flabbergaster: he tried to help with teamviewer -- you're using mac?
#2379 [17:45] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: oh
#2380 [17:45] <sugoi> sry
#2381 [17:45] <sugoi> haha, weird
#2382 [17:45] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: thanks for the warning
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#2384 [17:46] <sugoi> elias: does windows ask if you are sure you want to run it? can you just click 'yes'
#2385 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Do you have java installed on your machine?
#2386 [17:46] <flabbergaster> yup
#2387 [17:46] <sugoi> elias: also, if you do see that window question, there is a check box where you can say 'dont show again'
#2388 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Where do you see this red X?
#2389 [17:47] <flabbergaster> upper left corner
#2390 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> On what page?
#2391 [17:47] <quibbit> i downloaded it
#2392 [17:47] <elias> no it is not a windows "trust' issue. it is in my downloads folder in google chrome but if i go to start, and downloads it is not in there. when i try to drag the file from crome onto my desktop it says some thing like "this item is no longer located in c\something\something. verify its location and try again
#2393 [17:47] <flabbergaster> the one wher you play the game
#2394 [17:47] <sugoi> elias: oh, ok
#2395 [17:48] <sugoi> elias: in chrome, can you open your downloads window (ctrl+j) and right click on the file and click on 'open file location'
#2396 [17:48] <sugoi> quibbit: ok, run it and install java :)
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#2398 [17:49] * sugoi wonders if a lot of people join and don't realize they just type to talk...
#2398 [17:49] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2398 [17:49] <flabbergaster> do you have to have an acont to play
#2399 [17:49] <sugoi> maybe they expect a webpage
#2400 [17:49] <sugoi> flabbergaster: yes
#2401 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - For minecraft premium, yes
#2402 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> er, just for minecraft, yes
#2403 [17:51] <flabbergaster> ok but i thout you could play for free
#2404 [17:51] <elias> when i right click it gives me options to open link in new tab, open link in new window, open link in incognito window, save link as... , copy link adress, inspect element
#2405 [17:51] <flabbergaster> with out an acont
#2406 [17:51] <sugoi> flabbergaster: the old old alpha version i think is still free
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#2408 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> old classic
#2409 [17:52] <hellsninja> sooo anyone here fluent with the mcp for 1.0.0? :P
#2410 [17:52] <sugoi> scrub: classic :)
#2411 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> hellsninja - See #mcp, or #mcp-modding
#2412 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> hellsninja - See #mcp, or #mcp-modding
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#2414 [17:52] <sugoi> elias: save link as
#2415 [17:52] <sugoi> elias: and put it somewhere you will go to after :)
#2416 [17:53] <sugoi> elias: when you run your current server ... i would copy it there and replace/delete the old server exe
#2417 [17:53] <flabbergaster> so you still have to have an acont to play for free
#2418 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2419 [17:53] <elias> ill try hold on
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#2421 [17:55] <elias> it still loses connection
#2422 [17:55] <sugoi> elias: but what is the version?
#2423 [17:55] <elias> still says 1.0.0
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#2425 [17:55] <sugoi> elias: so unfortunately, we still haven't copied the new one in place of the old one
#2426 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> elias - What are you using to launch the minecraft server?
#2427 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Are you actually clicking on minecraft_server.exe?
#2428 [17:56] <elias> yes
#2429 [17:56] <flabbergaster> well dose the box with the X in the upper left corner have anything to do whith not having an acont
#2430 [17:56] <elias> tand i click run
#2431 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - The X in the upper left corner, of what page?
#2432 [17:57] <sugoi> elias: let's try this
#2433 [17:57] <sugoi> elias: change the name of the file to something like, minecraft_server_old
#2434 [17:57] <flabbergaster> it tells you how to play below it
#2435 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Then you're on minecraft.net/classic/play or some such, yeah?
#2436 [17:57] <sugoi> elias: tell me when you've done that
#2437 [17:58] <flabbergaster> yup
#2438 [17:58] <elias> done
#2439 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Then yeah, java isn't installed right if you get a red X on that page
#2440 [17:58] <sugoi> elias: where was that btw, downloads folder?
#2441 [17:58] <sugoi> desktop?
#2442 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> The X is where the java applet should be.
#2443 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - I'd recommend trying an uninstall and reinstall of java on your system
#2444 [17:58] <sugoi> flabbergaster: if you JUST installed java, you may have to close all your web browsers and reopen them
#2445 [17:58] <elias> i downloaded with chrome and in chrome i clicked downloads and it was i there
#2446 [17:59] <flabbergaster> ok I will try it
#2447 [17:59] <sugoi> elias: the file is called minecraft_server.exe
#2448 [17:59] <sugoi> elias: so let's do it again (download and save into your downloads folder)
#2449 [17:59] <sugoi> elias: so let's do it again (download and save into your downloads folder)
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#2451 [17:59] <sugoi> elias: if you don't see the minecraft_server.exe file, we haven't done it correctly yet
#2452 [18:00] <elias> u want me to put it into my chrome download folder or the download folder i get to from "start'
#2453 [18:00] <elias> ?
#2454 [18:00] * mib_qebvd2 [mib_qebvd2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2455 [18:00] <sugoi> elias: i want you to put it where you currently have minecraft_server_old.exe
#2456 [18:01] <elias> ok
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#2458 [18:01] <elias> done
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#2460 [18:02] <sugoi> ok
#2461 [18:02] <skippydippy> it wont let me log in
#2462 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - To?
#2463 [18:02] <sugoi> so in your file, next to the _old one, you see the minecraft_server file?
#2464 [18:02] <sugoi> elias: ^
#2465 [18:03] <sugoi> in your folder*
#2466 [18:03] <sugoi> sry
#2467 [18:03] <elias> it says Minecraft_Server (2).exe because i had downloads in that folder from earlier
#2468 [18:03] <skippydippy> i have a premium account and forgot my username so i sent it to my email then when i click "forgot password" and enter my email it says email not valid
#2469 [18:04] <sugoi> elias: ok, ... to be safe
#2470 [18:04] <sugoi> elias: delete all the other minecraft_Server's
#2471 [18:04] <sugoi> elias: but leave the (2)
#2472 [18:04] <elias> ok
#2473 [18:04] <sugoi> elias: leave the _old one too, for now
#2474 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Try all the email addresses you normally use
#2475 [18:05] <skippydippy> why would the email change for the password though if it worked for my username?
#2476 [18:05] <sugoi> skippydippy: it worked to your email? can you use that same email now for your username?
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#2478 [18:06] <skippydippy> i have my username and need the password
#2479 [18:07] * mib_i7a25w [mib_i7a25w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2480 [18:07] <skippydippy> so i typed in the email to send my password to which is exactly the same one as the one they just sent the username too and it says it isnt a valid email
#2481 [18:07] <sugoi> skippydippy: ok, but .... why do you need your username...if you have it?
#2482 [18:08] <sugoi> i mean, why give it your email, if you already know your username?
#2483 [18:08] <skippydippy> i need the password
#2484 [18:08] <mib_i7a25w> hey i put in a nick name and i was getting ready to play and it says there is an error
#2485 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_i7a25w - Long error?
#2486 [18:08] <elias> ok now im confused. minecraft2 shows up in chrome along with like 4 copys of minecraft server1 and a single copy of minecraft server but my actual downloads only show a minecraftserver.exe and minecraft server old
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#2488 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Looking in the wrong downloads folder then
#2489 [18:09] <sugoi> elias: i was hoping we'd realize this ... see that your downloads weren't were you thought they are
#2490 [18:10] <mib_i7a25w> its like an applet.jar.pack error
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#2492 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_i7a25w - lwjgl_applet.jar.pack?
#2493 [18:10] <elias> i dont understand
#2494 [18:10] <sugoi> elias: and in your folder where you expect to find it...delete all minecraft server exe's, except the _old one
#2495 [18:10] <mib_i7a25w> yeah
#2496 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_i7a25w - Check your security software, it's most likely blocking it
#2497 [18:11] <elias> but chrome doesnt allow you to delete individual downloadsbut my actual download folder doesnt even show them
#2498 [18:11] <sugoi> elias: okok,,, chrome has apparently saved them to some temp location (grey? i don't use chrome) --- but right click on the most recent one and "save link as"
#2499 [18:11] <sugoi> elias: save it to the folder we _want_
#2500 [18:12] <sugoi> next to the other _old server
#2501 [18:12] <elias> how to i save it "to" a folder
#2502 [18:12] <sugoi> elias: ctrl+j to see the downloads
#2503 [18:12] <skippydippy> can nobody help me?
#2504 [18:12] <sugoi> then, right click on the name
#2505 [18:12] <sugoi> skippydippy: doesn't like your email? try typing it in by hand
#2506 [18:12] <sugoi> don't copy paste
#2507 [18:12] <sugoi> skippydippy: maybe your copy+paste had some bad char
#2508 [18:13] <skippydippy> i did type it in by hand
#2509 [18:13] <sugoi> char => character, key
#2510 [18:13] <skippydippy> like six times
#2511 [18:13] <sugoi> skippydippy: it takes 7
#2512 [18:13] <sugoi> ok, kidding
#2513 [18:13] <sugoi> :)
#2514 [18:13] * GreyVulpine kicks VoxelHead.
#2514 [18:13] <elias> control j brings me to chrome downloads which isnt an actual folder its more like a list
#2515 [18:13] <sugoi> elias: RIGHT
#2516 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> In that list, do you see the latest minecraft_server?
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#2518 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Below it, click on "Show in folder"
#2519 [18:14] <sugoi> /thanks/
#2520 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> That should bring up the explorer window where chrome downloads its files to
#2521 [18:14] <elias> yes but it doesnt allow me to click sho in folder
#2522 [18:14] <elias> should i try another web vrowser?
#2523 [18:15] <sugoi> elias: this should be simple to solve - just give us a sec to figure it out
#2524 [18:15] <elias> ok
#2525 [18:15] <mib_i7a25w> wait so you mean like norton security
#2526 [18:16] <mib_i7a25w> norton internet security
#2527 [18:16] <sugoi> skippydippy: if you want to pm with your email address, i'd be happy to try as well, but given the info you've given, it seems it should work just fine
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#2529 [18:16] <sugoi> skippydippy: so, if you want, just type /msg sugoi [enter your email address]
#2530 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> One more time. let's try sugoi's suggestion. Go to minecraft.net/download
#2531 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> elias - See minecraft_server.exe, right click on it, "Save link as..."
#2532 [18:17] <sugoi> elias: ^
#2533 [18:17] <elias> okk im there
#2534 [18:17] <zucchini> hey i have a laptop with 8GB of RAM, java fully updated, and an Intel i7 processor. however, minecraft still laggs. why is this?
#2535 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> It should then put up a window where you can choose where to download the server to
#2536 [18:17] <skippydippy> heres a recap just incase....i bought minecraft 6 months ago and havent played in a while.....forgot my username and password so they sent me an email with the accounts under my name....then i tried to get a password for one of them and it wouldnt take my email for that
#2537 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> zucchini - Do you know what video card it has?
#2538 [18:17] <sugoi> zucchini: what video card?
#2539 [18:18] <elias> and what should i type there
#2540 [18:18] <zucchini> not sure, one sec and ill check
#2541 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> elias - Let's make it easy on you. C:\Minecraft_server.exe
#2542 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> elias - Once it's downloaded, pull up your computer, go to your C:\ drive. Look for minecraft_server.exe
#2543 [18:19] <sugoi> skippydippy: what is your username?
#2544 [18:19] <skippydippy> Binkers 5
#2545 [18:19] <skippydippy> no space
#2546 [18:19] <sugoi> !paid binkers
#2547 [18:19] <skippydippy> whoops
#2548 [18:19] <sugoi> !paid binkers5
#2549 [18:19] <sugoi> skippydippy: you see what i'm doing?
#2550 [18:19] <skippydippy> no
#2551 [18:20] <sugoi> k, nvm
#2552 [18:20] <sugoi> you said whoops
#2553 [18:20] <sugoi> !paid binkers5
#2554 [18:20] <elias> it says i dont have permission to download there contact administrator
#2555 [18:20] <sugoi> heeh
#2556 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> What in the..
#2557 [18:20] <sugoi> skippydippy: what was the shoops for?
#2558 [18:20] <sugoi> whoops*
#2559 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Do you own your computer elias?
#2560 [18:20] <skippydippy> i said my username wrong
#2561 [18:20] <sugoi> skippydippy: the forgot passwodr wants your username, not your email
#2562 [18:20] <skippydippy> i put a space
#2563 [18:20] <elias> yes ive had this computer for a few years
#2564 [18:20] <sugoi> skippydippy: oh, no worries
#2565 [18:20] <skippydippy> oh.....
#2566 [18:20] <sugoi> skippydippy: so it (minecraft.net) sent you your password
#2567 [18:20] <skippydippy> wow....
#2568 [18:21] <skippydippy> i feel like im retarted now
#2569 [18:21] <sugoi> no worries :)
#2570 [18:21] <sugoi> we all do it
#2571 [18:21] <zucchini> my video card is a NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M
#2572 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> zucchini - Optimus system, yes?
#2573 [18:22] <zucchini> im not sure
#2574 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> zucchini - You've got a dual GPU in your laptop, one that's running an integrated intel chipset, and one that's a dedicated geforce video card.
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#2576 [18:22] <sugoi> zucchini: i had the same setup on a laptop (dual, as grey points out)
#2577 [18:22] <zucchini> ok. but why would it lagg so much on minecraft?
#2578 [18:22] <sugoi> zucchini: i had to install latested nvidia driver -
#2579 [18:23] <hellsninja> what was the channel for mcp help? :x
#2580 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> To determine which one runs what application, nvidia released its optimus setup utility. Unfortunately, by default, it uses the intel integrated graphics for java, instead of your higher powered, high performance geforce card
#2581 [18:23] <sugoi> zucchini: and then i also needed an extra step after that
#2582 [18:23] <sugoi> zucchini: EXACTLY as grey just explained :)
#2583 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> You need to configure the optimus utility to force Java to use the discrete nvidia card, instead of the low powered intel one. Second while I pull up a URL for you
#2584 [18:23] <zucchini> so i need to install this 'optimus system?'
#2585 [18:24] <sugoi> zucchini: you can open your nvidia control panel, and tell it to always use the card for apps (default is let the app decide)
#2586 [18:24] <zucchini> oh ok
#2587 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> No, it should already be installed
#2588 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> http://josoft.net/post/2011/01/18/Minecraft-on-your-Nvidia-Optimus-laptop.aspx
#2589 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Follow those instructions ^
#2590 [18:24] <sugoi> nice ...
#2591 [18:24] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: why do i try :P
#2592 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> :P
#2593 [18:24] <sugoi> haha
#2594 [18:24] <zucchini> ok thanks!
#2595 [18:25] <zucchini> ill try and get back to you
#2596 [18:25] <sugoi> elias: where are you now?
#2597 [18:25] <sugoi> elias: instead of c:\... , can you save to a downloads folder?
#2598 [18:25] <elias> i dont know how
#2599 [18:25] <hellsninja> anyone know what the mcp help channel is? :/
#2600 [18:25] <sugoi> elias: grey's advice would have been easier, but we can still do this
#2601 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> hellsninja - Should be #mcp
#2602 [18:26] <hellsninja> tyvm
#2603 [18:26] <elias> what do i do
#2604 [18:26] <sugoi> elias: let me take some screen shots for you
#2605 [18:26] * sugoi starts up a vm to get chrome...
#2605 [18:26] <elias> ok
#2606 [18:27] <zucchini> in those instructions, it says go to your nvidia control panel, how do i get to that?
#2607 [18:27] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: has #this always been on esper?
#2608 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> No idea
#2609 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> zucchini - Right click on your desktop, should be an option for nvidia control panel
#2610 [18:28] <zucchini> hah got it
#2611 [18:28] <zucchini> hah got it
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#2613 [18:28] <sugoi> i'm just used to freenode, this is my first esper channel
#2614 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Not as big as freenode.
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#2616 [18:31] <elias> quick question where can i download server.exe 1.0.1 elsewhere than minecraft
#2617 [18:31] <sugoi> elias: you don't want to
#2618 [18:31] <sugoi> elias: only download from minecraft, so we can trust it
#2619 [18:31] <elias> ok
#2620 [18:31] <sugoi> elias: i'm making some screenshots, hope they help but it'll take me a few minutes :)
#2621 [18:32] <elias> is there a reaso it still shows up as 1.0.0
#2622 [18:32] <sugoi> elias: yes
#2623 [18:32] <sugoi> :)
#2624 [18:32] <sugoi> let's not worry about that right now
#2625 [18:32] <elias> ok
#2626 [18:32] <Wug> if you run the server its version will show as 1.0.1
#2627 [18:32] <elias> no mine shows as 1.0.0
#2628 [18:32] <sugoi> Wug: he's have download issues
#2629 [18:33] <elias> should i try another browser?
#2630 [18:33] <sugoi> elias: when you right click and choose "save link as" -- the "save as" window opens
#2631 [18:33] <elias> yes
#2632 [18:33] <sugoi> elias: what is the address you see?
#2633 [18:33] <sugoi> like .. sugoi > Downalods
#2634 [18:33] <sugoi> ?
#2635 [18:33] <sugoi> well, more like > sugoi > Downloads
#2636 [18:33] <sugoi> right?
#2637 [18:33] <zucchini> hey it works great now! thank you very much!!!
#2638 [18:33] <sugoi> zucchini: :)
#2639 [18:34] <elias> yup
#2640 [18:34] <sugoi> zucchini: it's nice to let the gpu do what it's made for
#2641 [18:34] <zucchini> oh yeah!
#2642 [18:34] <sugoi> elias: do you see other files in there already?
#2643 [18:34] <sugoi> elias: like, minecraft_server_old ?
#2644 [18:35] <sugoi> elias: ?
#2645 [18:36] <elias> no i clicked save as and the windoww pops up and at the top it says dino-dude, downloads and in the box where i can type it says minecraft server1.exe
#2646 [18:36] <sugoi> ok that's fine
#2647 [18:37] <sugoi> but....in the box area between the address
#2648 [18:37] <sugoi> and the filename, are there files already?
#2649 [18:38] <elias> yes theres a few
#2650 [18:38] <sugoi> elias: ok, cool, are any of them called minecraft_server_old ?
#2651 [18:38] <elias> yes
#2652 [18:38] <sugoi> rock!
#2653 [18:38] <sugoi> that means we're in the right place
#2654 [18:39] <elias> ok
#2655 [18:39] <sugoi> ok? so, just click save and remember the name (you said it's calling it minecraft_server1.exe
#2656 [18:39] <sugoi> )
#2657 [18:39] <sugoi> right ?
#2658 [18:39] <elias> yup
#2659 [18:39] * sugoi grawls at VoxelHead
#2659 [18:40] <sugoi> growls*
#2660 [18:40] <elias> done
#2661 [18:40] <sugoi> elias: , ok just click .. ok -- so, go to your downloads folder
#2662 [18:40] <sugoi> find the minecraft server files, delete all but 1. minecraft_server_old, and 2. minecraft_server1
#2663 [18:40] <sugoi> note, i said the '1'
#2664 [18:41] <elias> ok hold on
#2665 [18:41] <sugoi> then, after you've deleted those other minecraft server files (besides those two), let's rename minecraft_server1 to minecraft_server (i like to be clean)
#2666 [18:42] <sugoi> then...double click minecraft_server ... confirm it says 1.0.1
#2667 [18:46] <elias> still says 1.0.0
#2668 [18:46] <sugoi> elias: you clicked on minecraft_server or minecraft_server_old?
#2669 [18:46] <elias> minecraft_server
#2670 [18:46] <sugoi> elias: ....
#2671 [18:47] <sugoi> elias: i can help you more with remote desktop (teamviewer) but i am leaving the office in a few minutes
#2672 [18:47] <sugoi> elias: see if a channel operator wants to help you more (name prefixed with @)
#2673 [18:47] <sugoi> i'll be back in a couple hours
#2674 [18:48] <elias> thank you
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#2676 [18:49] <sugoi> well that sucked
#2677 [18:49] * GreyVulpine scratches head.
#2677 [18:49] <Wug> some people should not computer
#2678 [18:49] <sugoi> haha
#2679 [18:49] <trevmib_1h1p0f> he i already paid for minecraft and when i go onto the launcher it wont work
#2680 [18:49] <Wug> trevmib_1h1p0f? how did that happen
#2681 [18:50] <Wug> what error message does it show
#2682 [18:50] <trevmib_1h1p0f> it says username not premium
#2683 [18:50] <Wug> whats your username
#2684 [18:51] <trevmib_1h1p0f> snake_eyes8032
#2685 [18:51] <Wug> !paid snake_eyes8032
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#2687 [18:51] <Wug> did you get a transaction receipt in your email?
#2688 [18:53] <trevmib_1h1p0f> yes
#2689 [18:53] <Wug> where did you buy minecraft from
#2690 [18:53] <trevmib_1h1p0f> minecraft.net
#2691 [18:53] <Wug> did you buy a gift code instead of premium status?
#2692 [18:53] <trevmib_1h1p0f> what does that mean
#2693 [18:54] <Wug> premium status makes your account premium, gift codes are for giving to someone else to make their account premium
#2694 [18:54] <Wug> if you did, you can just apply it to your own account
#2695 [18:54] <Wug> check your profile page and see if there are any gift codes listed
#2696 [18:54] <Wug> :profile
#2697 [18:54] <WugBot> profile: Minecraft Account Profile Page: http://www.minecraft.net/profile
#2698 [18:54] <trevmib_1h1p0f> u can make ur username premium
#2699 [18:55] <Wug> yes, by paying or using a gift code
#2700 [18:55] <trevmib_1h1p0f> ?
#2701 [18:55] <trevmib_1h1p0f> ok i already payed
#2702 [18:55] <Wug> check your profile page and see if there are any gift codes listed
#2703 [18:57] <trevmib_1h1p0f> where would they be listed
#2704 [18:58] <Wug> very bottom of the profile page
#2705 [19:00] <sugoi> Wug: when people find scam-sites for mc, where can we report them?
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#2707 [19:00] <Wug> tweeting mojang about them is what I do
#2708 [19:00] <sugoi> s/.*/where can we report scam sites/
#2709 [19:00] <sugoi> k
#2710 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> sugoi - I'm sure Mojang already knows about them.
#2711 [19:01] <Atticus> So I purchased the game about a week ago, i have not received a receipt for the game but as of last night the charge was pending from my account today its no longer pending but when i try to log into minecraft.exe it still says i not a premium account?
#2712 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Atticus - That's something you need to take up with your bank. They most likely reversed the charge on your behalf.
#2713 [19:04] <sugoi> Atticus: banks will show pending (or holds) for a few days and then hide them, but they may still be pending
#2714 [19:04] <sugoi> Atticus: and, as grey said, it could be reversed
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#2716 [19:04] <sugoi> Atticus: the bank may have held the money back waiting for your approval bc it is an internation purchase
#2717 [19:04] <Atticus> okay hmmm
#2718 [19:05] <sugoi> just call and talk about the purchase, the bank can give more info
#2719 [19:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Hello, guys. My minecraft keeps blacking out when I get into the world of a minecraft server.
#2720 [19:05] <sugoi> Atticus: make sure you bought from minecraft.net too
#2721 [19:05] <sugoi> Atticus: the charge should be from moneybookers
#2722 [19:05] <Atticus> it was throug money bookers
#2723 [19:05] <sugoi> Atticus: sounds good, i'd call the bank
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#2725 [19:06] <CrusaderDeleters> nevermind, all good.
#2726 [19:06] <Atticus> Alright thanks ill do that
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#2729 [19:17] <xXMrMomXx> Can this help for the mod Pokemobs?
#2730 [19:17] <Wug> :mods > xXMrMomXx
#2731 [19:17] <WugBot> xXMrMomXx: (mods) This channel provides support for the vanilla (unmodded) version of minecraft. If you are having trouble playing one of the first things we'll ask you to do is remove any texture packs or mods.
#2732 [19:17] <WugBot> xXMrMomXx: (mods) Support for bukkit can be found in #bukkit. Most usually come with instructions, make sure you read them. Also, you can try youtube for video tutorials.
#2733 [19:18] <xXMrMomXx> How can I get suppport for mods?
#2734 [19:19] <xXMrMomXx> How can I get support for mods? Such as Pokemob mod.
#2735 [19:19] <clarjon1> xXMrMomXx: Post on the mod topic
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#2737 [19:20] <stomper> hi well it says java fatal error occured and it doesn't let me download the game what do id o?
#2738 [19:25] <stomper> hello
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#2741 [19:28] <Nathan2055> I've noticed that you need to close Minecraft before using MCedit.
#2742 [19:28] <Nathan2055> How do you know that Minecraft is fully closed?
#2743 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> Ensure java isn't running
#2744 [19:29] <Nathan2055> By scanning the process list for java.exe?
#2745 [19:29] * GreyVulpine nods
#2745 [19:29] <Nathan2055> Thanks, one more question.
#2746 [19:30] <Nathan2055> Do Creeper and Enderman spawners work correctly if I add them with MCEdit?
#2747 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, that, I don't know.
#2748 [19:30] <Nathan2055> Yeah.
#2749 [19:30] <Nathan2055> All I know is that the spawner model looks weird.
#2750 [19:31] <Nathan2055> According to the wiki.
#2751 [19:31] <Nathan2055> Thanks anyway!
#2752 [19:31] <Nathan2055> Bye!
#2753 [19:31] * GreyVulpine tips hat
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#2754 [19:37] <zmuha> ello
#2755 [19:38] <zmuha> nobody can connect to my ip adress for my minecraft server i set up
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#2758 [19:42] <screaminediot> hmm no one seems to be on
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#2763 [19:45] <mib_fijma6> How do i fix this it says "not download." Also "User not premium."
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#2765 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Pay for the game
#2766 [19:47] <XWLPenguin> I guess this has been asked a bunch of times, but no one has replied on the support forum to any of the threads, every time I tried to play this message "fatal error occured (4) unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack" shows up. Any idea what's wrong?
#2767 [19:47] <yoshi> Hey guys i cannot buy Minecraft it says: You can not use your credit/debit card for the next 24 hours. This restriction cannot be lifted manually by you or our service team. Please return to the website of the Merchant where you will receive further instructions.
#2768 [19:47] <yoshi> anyone can help me?
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#2770 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> yoshi - Try paypal
#2771 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> XWLPenguin - Usually a result of your security software blocking lwjgl
#2772 [19:48] <XWLPenguin> Thanks, I'll look at it.
#2773 [19:48] <yoshi> well i will try
#2774 [19:49] <Pakit> I've installed minecraft & play online by going to the minecraft suggested server list. I've tried everything under the sun to change the TEXTURE PACK on my MAC - I've downloaded a couple of them & have looked at various u-tube tutorials, but none of them have helped me succeed in changing the texture pack. It's so damn frustrating, can anyone help me?
#2775 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> Pakit - Give us an example of one you downloaded and the exact steps you took to install it?
#2776 [19:51] <Pakit> awesome, thanks - I'll do that now
#2777 [19:52] <yoshi> I still cant buy ti
#2778 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> yoshi - Then you'll need to talk to your bank or credit card, see why they're blocking it
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#2784 [19:55] <yoshi> i have tried whit 3 credit cards and still cant :(
#2785 [19:55] <brianf725> ok, i was told to email help@mojang.com because I paid for the game and my son still can't login, but no one has gotten back to me
#2786 [19:56] <yoshi> someone can help me?
#2787 [19:56] <brianf725> don't think they have any customer service yoshi
#2788 [19:57] <Pakit> Ok, I'm not a computer wizz when it comes to the technical side of things, so bare with me. Firstly, I downloaded: windwalker & Nurious SplotchBlock HD v1 & they now appear in my minecraft folder. I go to finder/library/Application Support/minecraft/texturepack & there is the windwalker. But when I go log into minecraft I don't have the option to choose a
#2789 [19:57] <yoshi> they have?
#2790 [19:57] <Pakit> texture pack other than the default onw
#2791 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> Pakit - HD texture packs require an HD mod fix
#2792 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> they're not natively supported in minecraft
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#2794 [19:58] <Pakit> do you know where I get an HD mod fix?
#2795 [19:58] <brianf725> I think I spoke with you earlier today GreyVulpine
#2796 [19:58] <brianf725> I emailed help@mojang.com and got no response
#2797 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Pakit - http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-100-11w49aupdate-128-mcpatcher-hd-fix-223/
#2798 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> brianf725 - Give them a little bit of time, they do get a ton of emails
#2799 [19:59] <brianf725> I have a very impatient son..unfortunately
#2800 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I can't force Mojang to read them any faster.
#2801 [20:00] <brianf725> lol.. that's ok.. not your fault, but maybe this person needs to hire more people for support.. they obviously need it
#2802 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> They really do.
#2803 [20:00] <Pakit> do I go to that link you provided & take it from there?
#2804 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> Pakit - Yup, read the instructions
#2805 [20:01] <brianf725> have a good night GreyVulpine.. Maybe I will just call my bank tomorrow, since my son doesn't want to wait..
#2806 [20:01] * GreyVulpine nods
#2806 [20:01] <Pakit> I appreciate your support, thank u. I have to say that all this minecraft is soooo complicated. I'm doing it for my son ;-)
#2807 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> If you have any questions about it, just ask.
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#2811 [20:10] <peeves> i just bought the game and vaguely remember seeing something about waiting an hour before id be able to play. did i actually see this or was i hallucinating?
#2812 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> peeves: you probably actually saw that; yes.
#2813 [20:11] <peeves> alright just making sure. it was having issues taking my card so i figured it may have been telling me to try ordering again.
#2814 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> peeves: is it a prepaid or gift card?
#2815 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> okay then
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#2817 [20:14] <peeves> debit/credit
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#2819 [20:22] <mib_meg7ka> hello
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#2821 [20:24] <Crit> can anyone point me in the correct direction to setting up ranks in-game with permissions plus?
#2822 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, that's not something we help with around here
#2823 [20:25] <Crit> Do you know where I should go?
#2824 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> You'll have to either post in the thread where you got the plugin for that, or figure out if they have an irc channel
#2825 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> All else fails, try #bukkit, maybe somebody there's used it
#2826 [20:25] <Crit> Okay thank you very much
#2827 [20:25] <Crit> Okay thank you very much
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#2834 [20:29] <mib_xkflym> um?
#2835 [20:29] <mib_xkflym> hello?
#2836 [20:30] <mib_xkflym> um... hello?
#2837 [20:30] <mib_xkflym> anyone?
#2838 [20:30] <mib_xkflym> what is this?
#2839 [20:33] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ....
#2840 [20:33] <Scott> If you guys registered previously on minecraftirc.net, you'll have to do it again. I destroyed the site last night.
#2841 [20:34] * |Kiikun|Janus| baps Scott with a rolled-up newspaper
#2841 [20:35] <Pakit> Hi there, I've managed to download & install mcpatcher & I've downloaded a texture pack from planetminecraft.com. The files are in my downloads, do I paste the whole folder into my minecraft one?
#2842 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Texture packs should come in .zip form. Don't unzip them, simply place them in the .minecraft/texturepacks folder
#2843 [20:35] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Pakit: texture packs go in the texture pack folder as a zip file
#2844 [20:35] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ?? mods
#2845 [20:35] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2846 [20:35] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
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#2848 [20:36] <Michael> yo hey
#2849 [20:37] <Michael> any german guys here?
#2850 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Nein
#2851 [20:37] <Michael> always one clown here hm?
#2852 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#2853 [20:37] <|Kiikun|Janus|> he's not A clown... he's THE clown!
#2854 [20:37] <Michael> well would be nice if u can help me GreyVulpine
#2855 [20:37] <|Kiikun|Janus|> with fur!
#2856 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Michael - With?
#2857 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Michael - With?
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#2859 [20:41] <|Kiikun|Janus|> btw.... Super meat boy in humble bundle!!!!! :P
#2860 [20:44] <Pakit> Wow you have brains on you! I've compressed the 3 texture packs I downloaded earlier & the have the .zip extension. They now appear when I log into minecraft, but they're greyed out... When I go into singleplayer, nothing is different...
#2861 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> Gah, don't compress all three of them.
#2862 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> You don't have a mac, do you?
#2863 [20:45] <Pakit> one?
#2864 [20:45] <Pakit> yes, I do, the latest version & that's y its so damn complicated
#2865 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> .zip each t.. oh boy
#2866 [20:45] <Pakit> ooops, sorreeeee
#2867 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Not your fault, just that macs do a really funky thing while zipping that breaks texture packs (and all .zips)
#2868 [20:46] * GreyVulpine kicks Scott
#2868 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> How do you make it so that macs don't do their stupid _MACOSX thing in .zips?
#2869 [20:46] <Scott> No idea
#2870 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Great..
#2871 [20:46] * |Kiikun|Janus| hands GreyVulpine the newspaper to whap Scott with
#2871 [20:46] <Pakit> breaks doesn't sound good
#2872 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Pakit - Do you download those texture packs in safari?
#2873 [20:47] <Pakit> yes
#2874 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Okay, go to safari's options menu, there should be a checkbox for uh..
#2875 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> unzip/uncompress automatically on downloaded files?
#2876 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Uncheck that box
#2877 [20:47] <Scott> someone link me to a file
#2878 [20:47] <Scott> i want to see if it works
#2879 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> You actually want those files to stay as .zips when you download them
#2880 [20:48] <|Kiikun|Janus|> GreyVulpine: 7zip has a mac-port
#2881 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> I don't know how to install apps on macs.
#2882 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> Scott - File?
#2883 [20:49] <Scott> for a texture pack
#2884 [20:49] * |Kiikun|Janus| thinks jeb should make it possible to use a folder or a zip file :P
#2884 [20:49] <Scott> GreyVulpine: You just drag the .app file to the applications folder or run the .pkg.
#2885 [20:49] <Scott> GreyVulpine: You just drag the .app file to the applications folder or run the .pkg.
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#2887 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Scott - bit.ly/s1H1bG
#2888 [20:52] <Scott> ummm
#2889 [20:52] <Pakit> Man, I feel like an idiot, sorry to be a pain in the butt, but when I go to Safari/preferences/General I don't have the unzip/uncompress checkbox
#2890 [20:52] <Scott> i just unzipped that and then compressed it and it worked no problem
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#2892 [20:53] <Scott> ahhhh
#2893 [20:53] <Scott> I see the problem!
#2894 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> Pakit - Moment...
#2895 [20:53] <Scott> Pakit: go to the folder with the texturepack's files.
#2896 [20:54] <Pakit> I'm here at the texturepack's files
#2897 [20:54] <Scott> Then press command + a
#2898 [20:54] <Scott> secondary click and press compress
#2899 [20:54] <Scott> it should create a zip file.
#2900 [20:54] <Scott> you will want to use that
#2901 [20:54] <Scott> you were compressing the folder instead of the files inside the folder
#2902 [20:55] <Pakit> sorry, you were writing to me Scott, let me see
#2903 [20:57] <Pakit> hang on, when I press Command + A it highlights all the 3 texture pack folders I have, if I press compress it'll compress them like it did before, or not?
#2904 [20:57] <Pakit> cool
#2905 [20:58] <Scott> wait...
#2906 [20:58] <Pakit> it's just given me one archive.zip folder
#2907 [20:58] <Scott> Go inside the folder of the texturepack you want
#2908 [20:58] <Scott> then press command + and then compress
#2909 [20:58] <Scott> you need a zip file for each texture pack
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#2912 [21:02] <Pakit> Man, this is doing my head in. I've created the 1 zip folder for the one texture pack & now when I log into minecraft & log in2 minecraft the default one is only present. Before doing this, I at least had the texture packs greyed out... Not that it changed anything..
#2913 [21:03] <Scott> blargh
#2914 [21:03] <Scott> just download this: http://www.teamviewer.com/download/TeamViewerQS.dmg
#2915 [21:03] <Scott> run it and send me the ID and password
#2916 [21:03] <Scott> i'll just show you how
#2917 [21:03] <Pakit> you're a champ
#2918 [21:04] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Pakit: we love teamviewer. easier to do it ourselves and let someone watch and learn instead of explaining every... single.... click....
#2919 [21:06] <Pakit> 244 494 408 password 6806
#2920 [21:07] * |Kiikun|Janus| sighs
#2920 [21:10] <Scott> When people don't have slow as hell internet, that is.
#2921 [21:11] <Scott> Are these "HD"?
#2922 [21:11] <Scott> I think you need a mod for them to work.
#2923 [21:11] <XWLPenguin> I asked about the "Fatal error occured (4): Unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack" before and I was told it was to do with my security system blocking lwjgl. I turned off my firewall for the time being, and it still didn't work. I'm not very tech savvy lol.
#2924 [21:11] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Scott: he mcpatched already
#2925 [21:12] <Scott> Well it's not working and it's done correctly.
#2926 [21:12] <Pakit> Is my interet slow? I installed mcpatch
#2927 [21:13] <Scott> There. That one works. That god one is brokne.
#2928 [21:13] <Pakit> u r a legend
#2929 [21:13] <Scott> broken*
#2930 [21:13] <Pakit> WOW!
#2931 [21:13] <Scott> I guess you see how to do it now
#2932 [21:13] <Scott> close teamviewer
#2933 [21:14] <Pakit> Thank u a million!!!!!!!!!!
#2934 [21:14] <Pakit> My son can now clean the whole house for that ;-)
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#2936 [21:16] <Pakit> I feel like Einstein thanks to your brains Scotty! LOL
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#2939 [21:19] <mr_fribble> fatal error occured (4) unable to get input stream for lwjl_applet.jar.pack??
#2940 [21:19] <WugBot> mr_fribble: (firewall) Minecraft cannot download files or login if it is being blocked by a firewall. Try disabling your firewalls and logging in again.
#2941 [21:19] <mr_fribble> what does this mean?
#2942 [21:20] <XWLPenguin> I'm having the same issue, Mr. Fribble
#2943 [21:20] <mr_fribble> yea
#2944 [21:20] <mr_fribble> its been bugging me =[
#2945 [21:20] <mr_fribble> i just dont know what to do
#2946 [21:21] <XWLPenguin> I've tried turning off my firewall, as I saw someone suggest that, but it still didn't work.
#2947 [21:23] <mr_fribble> yea
#2948 [21:23] <mr_fribble> same here wugbot
#2949 [21:23] <mr_fribble> what else should i do?
#2950 [21:24] <|Kiikun|Janus|> XWLPenguin: you turned off the av too? some avs like falsely flagging and blocking lwjgl...
#2951 [21:24] <mr_fribble> yea =\
#2952 [21:24] <|Kiikun|Janus|> and i asume youre both playign classic
#2953 [21:24] <mr_fribble> i turned off everything
#2954 [21:24] <XWLPenguin> Nope, thanks. Yeah, it's just classic... for now
#2955 [21:25] <mr_fribble> is it down right now?
#2956 [21:25] <|Kiikun|Janus|> thats not what the error is refering too :P
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#2958 [21:26] <|Kiikun|Janus|> both of you try this: press start, type in %temp%, press enter, and look for a folder called www.minecraft.net or minecraft.net and delete it.
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#2961 [21:40] <Seb> http://pastebin.com/LAdU5940
#2962 [21:40] <Seb> Help?
#2963 [21:41] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Seb: 1) uninstall java 7 and install java 6
#2964 [21:41] <Seb> cheers!
#2965 [21:41] <|Kiikun|Janus|> and update your video drivers
#2966 [21:42] <Seb> thanks :)
#2967 [21:42] <|Kiikun|Janus|> no prob :D
#2968 [21:44] <Seb> hey so you remember how you said to uninstall java 7...
#2969 [21:44] <|Kiikun|Janus|> it was only 3 minutes ago :P
#2970 [21:44] <Seb> do i delete the java folder xP
#2971 [21:44] <|Kiikun|Janus|> no...
#2972 [21:45] <|Kiikun|Janus|> programs and features in the control pannel
#2973 [21:45] <Seb> got it :D]
#2974 [21:46] <Seb> I can be such a dunder at time
#2975 [21:47] <|Kiikun|Janus|> randomly deleting stuff from the "program files" folder is usualy a Bad Idea.
#2976 [21:48] <Seb> yea i know.. Hey i went through update device drivers and it said my video drivers were up to date?
#2977 [21:48] <Seb> so that's fine right?
#2978 [21:48] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ....
#2979 [21:48] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :dx > seb
#2980 [21:48] <WugBot> seb: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2981 [21:48] <WugBot> seb: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2982 [21:50] <Seb> http://pastebin.com/BFS186dj
#2983 [21:50] <Seb> :)
#2984 [21:51] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ;_; bacon jalapeno cheesy breeeeddddddd
#2985 [21:51] * |Kiikun|Janus| curses the lack of a dominoes in delivery range!
#2985 [21:51] <XWLPenguin> Quick question, If I bought the game, would I still have to deal with the "Fatal error occured (4): Unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack?" :/
#2986 [21:51] <Seb> Jalepeno - no me gusta - but that sounds pretty nom
#2987 [21:52] <|Kiikun|Janus|> XWLPenguin: thats mostly a classic error. you can try the demo and see
#2988 [21:52] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ?? demo
#2989 [21:52] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
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#2991 [21:52] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#2992 [21:52] <XWLPenguin> Thanks
#2993 [21:52] <ScornfulCow> Is anybody having trouble connecting to minecraft servers?
#2994 [21:52] <Scott> spinach and feta you mean, |Kiikun|Janus|.
#2995 [21:53] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Scott: naaaahhh
#2996 [21:53] <ScornfulCow> I'll take that as a no :S
#2997 [21:54] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ScornfulCow: i havent tried in the past half hour
#2998 [21:54] <|Kiikun|Janus|> !login
#2999 [21:54] <|Kiikun|Janus|> and logins fine
#3000 [21:54] <XWLPenguin> Thanks for all the help, you guys are pretty awesome :D
#3001 [21:54] <ScornfulCow> I can log in and stuff
#3002 [21:55] <ScornfulCow> I just can't connect to any servers
#3003 [21:55] <Seb> http://pastebin.com/2CAWED0W
#3004 [21:55] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Seb: download and install this http://www2.ati.com/drivers/mobile/11-12_mobility_vista_win7_32-64_ccc.exe
#3005 [21:55] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Seb: yeah its crashign on the video drivers.. but ive seen it SAYING its crashign on the drivers when its 7 going derpy
#3006 [21:57] <|Kiikun|Janus|> !check 71.33.144.66
#3007 [21:57] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ScornfulCow: you can check server addresses with !check.
#3008 [21:57] <|Kiikun|Janus|> its possible your servers are just down
#3009 [21:57] <ScornfulCow> !check 213.239.204.15
#3010 [21:58] <ScornfulCow> =\
#3011 [21:58] <ScornfulCow> maybe it is just servers
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#3013 [21:58] <ScornfulCow> It's wierd that they're all down at the same time for a couple hours :S
#3014 [21:58] <Armoon> So who can help me today? :D
#3015 [21:58] <Armoon> Please? :D
#3016 [21:58] <Scott> !check mc.minecraftirc.net
#3017 [21:58] <Scott> try that!
#3018 [21:58] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :ww > ArmEagle
#3019 [21:58] <WugBot> ArmEagle: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#3020 [21:59] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Scott: i take it the server is officially open now? :P
#3021 [21:59] <Scott> its up and open but you can't build yet
#3022 [21:59] <Armoon> Basically what is happening, is that the game is VERY slow in responding to my cursor, even like on the main menu... it sometimes takes upwards of 30 seconds for it to notice that I am trying to select a option... then takes even longer to perform that option
#3023 [21:59] <Scott> we haven't finished setting up plugins and such
#3024 [21:59] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :P
#3025 [21:59] <Armoon> This problem started about the same time as patch .80
#3026 [22:00] <ScornfulCow> looks like its working after all
#3027 [22:00] <ScornfulCow> still weird that those servers are down, though lol
#3028 [22:01] <ScornfulCow> i was almost done with the tardis i was making >.<
#3029 [22:01] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Armoon: beta 1.8 added higher video hardware requirements... so that might be the cause.
#3030 [22:01] <|Kiikun|Janus|> especially with the animated background :P
#3031 [22:01] <Armoon> I don't think so.... running windows 7 64bit, i5-2400, nvidia 335m, 4gb dd3
#3032 [22:04] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Armoon: hmm... you updated java and your video drivers? and using java 6?
#3033 [22:05] <Armoon> Yeah. Reinstalled Java, Minecraft....
#3034 [22:06] <sugoi> Armoon: that video card isn't that remarkable...even so -- you may need to make sure your nvidia card is being using when playing minecraft
#3035 [22:07] <sugoi> Armoon: i recommend openning your nvidia control panel and telling your card to be used always - and not let the app decide
#3036 [22:07] <Armoon> Alright how so? And are you really gonna say a 3 series won't play minecraft?
#3037 [22:07] <sugoi> Armoon: i don't mean to offend - it surely should be responding better than 1/30 fps
#3038 [22:08] <Armoon> yeah. I understand.
#3039 [22:08] <Armoon> I just know guys still using like 8800s and playing minecraft.
#3040 [22:09] <sugoi> Armoon: my nvidia card can handle minecraft, but my fps was very poor until i configured nvidia to "use always" and not "let the app decide"
#3041 [22:09] <Armoon> Well I mean it's near impossible to get past the main menu and I know thats not demanding.. and I just checked the setting and they are set correctly
#3042 [22:10] <sugoi> Armoon: that doesn't soudn like a card issue
#3043 [22:10] <sugoi> Armoon: but...since we've brought it up, let's check that anyways?
#3044 [22:10] <Armoon> It's more a lack of memory in my opinion
#3045 [22:10] <Armoon> Sure...
#3046 [22:10] <Armoon> What do?
#3047 [22:10] <sugoi> riht click on the screen, select nvidia control panel
#3048 [22:11] <Armoon> it's already up I was just checking it.
#3049 [22:11] <sugoi> sry for the delay, i had to get mine and check where it was
#3050 [22:11] <Armoon> Adjust Image settings with preview
#3051 [22:11] <sugoi> 3d settings > adjust image settings with preview
#3052 [22:11] <sugoi> yeah
#3053 [22:12] <Armoon> Use my preference emphasing... blah
#3054 [22:12] <sugoi> the 2nd option, use the advanced 3d image settings
#3055 [22:12] <sugoi> as opposed to the 1st option, let the 3d application decide
#3056 [22:12] <Armoon> right...
#3057 [22:13] <Armoon> it seems java just quit responding in my open minecraft window..
#3058 [22:13] <Armoon> I really think it must be a memory leak at this point..
#3059 [22:13] <sugoi> as for the horrible lack of memory usage...i have a couple ideas but i'm not sure if my ideas are hacks or cool
#3060 [22:14] <sugoi> Armoon: well open your task manager and see what memory java is using
#3061 [22:14] <Armoon> well whatever if they work
#3062 [22:14] <sugoi> s/what/how much/
#3063 [22:14] <Armoon> a good bit... around 395k
#3064 [22:15] <sugoi> on just the launcher ? not in game?
#3065 [22:15] <Armoon> on the main title screen and it's increasing
#3066 [22:15] <Armoon> now at 428k haven't touched the game since opening it.
#3067 [22:15] <sugoi> Armoon: mine holds still at 54,404 K
#3068 [22:16] <Armoon> okay... update
#3069 [22:16] <Armoon> Just now I was able to mouse over the different options and the responded correctly... however when I clicked single played the game has become unresponsive
#3070 [22:17] <Armoon> Not by windows defination but my mine... if that makes sense
#3071 [22:17] <sugoi> :) it does
#3072 [22:17] <sugoi> Armoon: the other option is to start the game telling it to use a minimum->maximum amount of ram
#3073 [22:18] <sugoi> Armoon: but i'm not sure that method is still supported....or well supported, or whatever
#3074 [22:18] <Armoon> okay give me one second... gotta reconnect to chat to try something
#3075 [22:18] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :moreram
#3076 [22:18] <WugBot> moreram: Click the following link for directions to run Minecraft with more than the default amount of RAM: http://pastebin.com/YhRXMsEU (Thanks GreyVulpine!)
#3077 [22:18] <sugoi> |Kiichan|: thanks
#3078 [22:19] <|Kiikun|Janus|> just alter the numbers to fit what you need :P
#3079 [22:19] <sugoi> i'll repaste that when he comes back
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#3083 [22:20] <sugoi> :moreram >> Armoon
#3084 [22:20] <Armoon> Alright sorry back.. Please go head.
#3085 [22:20] <sugoi> :(
#3086 [22:20] <sugoi> :moreram
#3087 [22:20] <WugBot> moreram: Click the following link for directions to run Minecraft with more than the default amount of RAM: http://pastebin.com/YhRXMsEU (Thanks GreyVulpine!)
#3088 [22:20] <sugoi> Armoon: ^^
#3089 [22:20] <wikkit> When I try and run minecraft on my Mac, it doesn't attempt to run
#3090 [22:21] <sheppycider123> That's for the server isn't it, WugBot?
#3091 [22:21] <sheppycider123> Or for SP as well?
#3092 [22:21] <wikkit> I tried downloading java again but it didn't affect anything
#3093 [22:23] <sheppycider123> Wahay - whoever was helping me thanks! I BSOD'd but MC works now :)
#3094 [22:23] <|Kiikun|Janus|> sheppycider123: seb?
#3095 [22:23] <sheppycider123> Yea
#3096 [22:24] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ah. i take it the bsod helped you install the drivers? :P or removed whatever was causing issue
#3097 [22:24] <|Kiikun|Janus|> and no prob :3
#3098 [22:24] <Armoon> okay... thats not working for me.
#3099 [22:24] <Armoon> I'm getting a java error inside of the command prompt
#3100 [22:25] <sheppycider123> I dunno - i was installing display drves from the CCC suite and then BOOM - so i rebooted and now ca marches
#3101 [22:25] <sheppycider123> :D
#3102 [22:25] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Armoon: whats the error?
#3103 [22:25] <Armoon> 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file
#3104 [22:26] <sugoi> Armoon: gotta run .. but i assume you have java :) bc you're playing the game, but it's not in your path
#3105 [22:26] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Armoon: use "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe"
#3106 [22:26] <Armoon> hmmm sec
#3107 [22:28] <wikkit> can i do this from the terminal
#3108 [22:29] <|Kiikun|Janus|> wikkit: you set the client in place like the download page said?
#3109 [22:29] <Armoon> Yeah... nothing..
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#3111 [22:29] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Armoon: same error?
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#3113 [22:30] <Armoon> yeah
#3114 [22:30] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Armoon: do you have java 7 installed?
#3115 [22:31] <Armoon> No. 6
#3116 [22:31] <Armoon> Hmmmm maybe thats it.
#3117 [22:31] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Armoon: you have 64bit os?
#3118 [22:31] <Armoon> Yes.
#3119 [22:31] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :j
#3120 [22:31] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#3121 [22:31] <|Kiikun|Janus|> download and install 64bit java
#3122 [22:33] <Armoon> working on it
#3123 [22:34] <Lord_Ferrum> hi guys, i've just created a server, and I can play it fine, but my friend can't get on.
#3124 [22:34] <Armoon> Are you using hamachi?
#3125 [22:34] <Lord_Ferrum> no
#3126 [22:34] <Armoon> Thats the easiest way I know of.
#3127 [22:34] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Lord_Ferrum: your runnign it on that computer
#3128 [22:34] <Armoon> LogMeIn Hamachi
#3129 [22:34] <Lord_Ferrum> yes
#3130 [22:34] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> Armoon fubar/hamachi
#3131 [22:34] <VoxelHead> Armoon: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#3132 [22:34] <VoxelHead> Armoon: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#3133 [22:34] <Armoon> These other guys are way better.
#3134 [22:35] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ;check Lord_Ferrum
#3135 [22:35] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 27-32-43-108.static.tpgi.com.au:25565 (Timed out)
#3136 [22:35] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Lord_Ferrum: have you set up port forwarding?
#3137 [22:35] <Lord_Ferrum> i think so
#3138 [22:36] <Armoon> Sugoi, I got the bat file working and it doesn't help.
#3139 [22:36] <Armoon> Game is actually locking up now as compaired to being unplayable slow
#3140 [22:37] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Lord_Ferrum: doublecheck that your forwarding is setup right.
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#3142 [22:37] <Lord_Ferrum> i am now
#3143 [22:37] <Lord_Ferrum> i don't really trust myself lol
#3144 [22:37] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Lord_Ferrum: http://portforward.com/english/applications/port_forwarding/Minecraft_Server/Minecraft_Serverindex.htm
#3145 [22:37] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Lord_Ferrum: Click on your router model, skip the PFConfig Ad, and follow the instructions to set up port forwarding! :D
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#3147 [22:38] <Armoon> Alright guys thanks for all the help but I just gonna give up and go play a board game I guess. Still love to Minecraft
#3148 [22:38] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Lord_Ferrum: you know how to find your computer's local ip, right?
#3149 [22:39] <marchingsouth2> Hello guys. I am having a problem updating my minecraft. It feezes at different points during the update and never finishes. I have tried deleting my .minecraft, force updating, and updating in the browser mode and nothing seems to work. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can get my update to complete?
#3150 [22:39] <Lord_Ferrum> |Kiikun|Janus|: ?
#3151 [22:40] <Lord_Ferrum> oh i thought you said logic :p
#3152 [22:40] <|Kiikun|Janus|> marchingsouth2: try disabling your firewall/av for a minute to see if its causing the issue.
#3153 [22:40] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Lord_Ferrum: heh
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#3155 [22:41] <marchingsouth2> that worked, it was AVG
#3156 [22:41] <marchingsouth2> thanks!
#3157 [22:41] <|Kiikun|Janus|> marchingsouth2: you can add an exception
#3158 [22:42] <Lord_Ferrum> |Kiikun|Janus|: i'm having trouble with this private port, what is that?
#3159 [22:42] <marchingsouth2> Thank you so much!
#3160 [22:42] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Lord_Ferrum: you want to set all port fields to 25565
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#3163 [22:45] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Lord_Ferrum: wb :3
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#3165 [22:45] <|Kiikun|Janus|> !check 27.32.43.108
#3166 [22:46] <Lord_Ferrum> |Kiikun|Janus|: my router reset itself
#3167 [22:47] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Lord_Ferrum: i drop offline for a second every time i change my port forwarding around :P
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#3169 [22:48] <Lord_Ferrum> well it had a 25 second countdown and it just said countdown lol
#3170 [22:48] <Lord_Ferrum> |Kiikun|Janus|: it's working
#3171 [22:48] <|Kiikun|Janus|> !check 27.32.43.108
#3172 [22:48] <Lord_Ferrum> you are a true genius
#3173 [22:48] * |Kiikun|Janus| scratches head
#3173 [22:49] <|Kiikun|Janus|> older server?
#3174 [22:49] <|Kiikun|Janus|> or is aubot just derping?
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#3176 [22:56] <The_Original_Fox> does the password reset function on minecraft.net not work or something?
#3177 [22:56] <TheNoodle> Just keep trying The_Original_Fox, nothing we can do to help really.
#3178 [22:56] * |Kiikun|Janus| tests!
#3178 [22:56] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :resetpass
#3179 [22:56] <WugBot> resetpass: You can reset the password for your minecraft account using the following page: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#3180 [22:56] <The_Original_Fox> well if takes me half an hour every time i try to reset my password, I'm not going to keep trying.
#3181 [22:57] <TheNoodle> Then...don't?
#3182 [22:57] <The_Original_Fox> I don't have that kind of spare time.
#3183 [22:57] * |Kiikun|Janus| just did it and got the email
#3183 [22:57] <|Kiikun|Janus|> The_Original_Fox: i think it just takes longer to track through your email service....
#3184 [22:58] <The_Original_Fox> it's aol mail.
#3185 [22:58] <The_Original_Fox> it shouldn't take a freaking half an hour.
#3186 [22:58] <|Kiikun|Janus|> >.>
#3187 [22:58] <TheNoodle> Well it worked fine for gmail just then.
#3188 [22:58] <|Kiikun|Janus|> its AOHell... i dont put any trust into anything related to them
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#3190 [22:59] <The_Original_Fox> I've never had any issues with receiving emails on time.
#3191 [23:00] <The_Original_Fox> hell, I've had more issues with my yahoo mail delaying emails than I have aol
#3192 [23:01] <|Kiikun|Janus|> The_Original_Fox: if you keep forgetting your password.. just set it to something long but simple.... like correcthorsebatterystaple
#3193 [23:01] <The_Original_Fox> my yahoo email once delayed a registration email for three days
#3194 [23:02] <The_Original_Fox> I didn't forget my password
#3195 [23:02] <The_Original_Fox> and even if I did, minecraft itself saved the password
#3196 [23:02] <The_Original_Fox> it just doesn't freakin' work now.
#3197 [23:02] <|Kiikun|Janus|> then why the issue with resetpass? o.o;
#3198 [23:02] <The_Original_Fox> because it says "Login Failed" when I try to log in to minecraft
#3199 [23:03] <The_Original_Fox> and something to that effect when i try to log in to minecraft.net
#3200 [23:03] <The_Original_Fox> "Oops, unknown username or password."
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#3205 [23:33] <The_Original_Fox> the second reset attempt finally worked.
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#3211 [23:56] <johnniemoo123> I purchased Minecraft a few months back, I had recently had some issues with my computer and had to reinstall windows completely. When I redownloaded Minecraft and tried to log in it says I haven't bought the game.