#1 [00:00] <mib_rc1swc> HOW DO I FIX IT ?
#2 [00:00] <mib_rc1swc> sry caps
#3 [00:00] <langkid1> mib_rc1swc, http://pastebin.com your log
#4 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> langkid1 - Stay here long enough, you'll know that I'm very patient.
#5 [00:00] <langkid1> also
#6 [00:00] <mau5ie> lol.
#7 [00:00] <langkid1> mib_rc1swc, what servers have you tried to connect to?
#8 [00:00] <frogzilla> GreyVulpine: i was using java 6 and got the same mesg jus saying java 6
#9 [00:01] <langkid1> or have you tried to connect to a server, that's not your own at all?
#10 [00:01] <langkid1> oh dang
#11 [00:01] <langkid1> it's 11PM already
#12 [00:01] <langkid1> I gtg soon :(
#13 [00:01] <frogzilla> yup
#14 [00:01] <mib_rc1swc> yes
#15 [00:01] <|Kiikun|> mib_rc1swc: check how much free space you have on your drive.. if its stalling at 85%... i have a feeling your drive might be full.
#16 [00:01] <frogzilla> cebtral standard tiem
#17 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> frogzilla - Please uninstall java completely from your system, and reinstall java 6. If it errors again, please paste it at www.pastebin.com
#18 [00:01] <mib_rc1swc> it got in but i think its the free vesion
#19 [00:02] <frogzilla> thnx
#20 [00:02] <mib_rc1swc> version
#21 [00:02] <langkid1> GreyVulpine, mib_rc1swc does not equal frogzilla
#22 [00:02] <langkid1> oh
#23 [00:02] <langkid1> whoops
#24 [00:02] <langkid1> I misread
#25 [00:02] <langkid1> stupid lag
#26 [00:03] <|Kiikun|> mib_rc1swc: there is no client for Classic, and the server for classic is downloaded from the classic servers list page. the minecraft server is on the same page as the client.
#27 [00:03] <langkid1> causes my messages to be sent too slowly ._.
#28 [00:03] <frogzilla> adios thanks again !!
#29 [00:03] <langkid1> |Kiikun|, aw you were too late
#30 [00:03] <langkid1> brb, cycling server
#31 [00:03] <|Kiikun|> eh.
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#33 [00:04] <langkid1> alright
#34 [00:04] <langkid1> maybe this server will not lag as much as the server nearest me >_>
#35 [00:04] <|Kiikun|> eh... 1sec.
#36 [00:05] <|Kiikun|> ...
#37 [00:05] <|Kiikun|> and that was an uncalled for pm :/
#38 [00:05] <langkid1> oh bye
#39 [00:05] <langkid1> this PC is sucking and my internet is sucking too so it's all mixing together for horrible IRC experience
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#41 [00:13] * |Kiikun| debates putting a chest over the other corner of the door.... for even-ness sake and more storage :P
#41 [00:14] <parker43> hey so i bought a minecraft premium account and it charged me but my account says not premium what should i do?
#42 [00:15] <|Kiikun|> parker43: how long ago did you purchase it?
#43 [00:16] <parker43> 2 or 3 weeks ago
#44 [00:16] <|Kiikun|> o.o;;;
#45 [00:16] <parker43> and we tryed waiting
#46 [00:16] <|Kiikun|> ok, did it ever actually say you were premium?
#47 [00:16] <parker43> no
#48 [00:17] <|Kiikun|> parker43: i congradulate you on your patience then... 2-3 weeks is a long time
#49 [00:17] <|Kiikun|> parker43: youve doublechecked that the money was actually taken from the bank account?
#50 [00:17] <parker43> thanks
#51 [00:17] <parker43> yeah
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#53 [00:19] <parker43> yes we are sure the charge went through
#54 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> And you've made sure that you purchased an account, and not a gift code?
#55 [00:20] <parker43> yes
#56 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Making sure there's no gift code listed on your profile page at minecraft.net
#57 [00:20] <parker43> ok
#58 [00:20] <|Kiikun|> ooh.. i forgot that one.
#59 [00:21] <parker43> i am sure there is none. i just checked
#60 [00:22] <|Kiikun|> parker43: still have the reciept emailed to you when you purchased?
#61 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> And you've done a http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename on all emails you normally use. It'll send you an email back with all user accounts that are linked to that account, including which ones are premium.
#62 [00:23] <parker43> i did not get one
#63 [00:25] <|Kiikun|> parker43: would have been from either moneybookers or paypal, depending on who you used.
#64 [00:25] <parker43> ok i did the retrievename
#65 [00:25] <parker43> and my email is the only one attached
#66 [00:26] <parker43> we didn't use either we just used visa
#67 [00:27] <|Kiikun|> parker43: visa (and basicly anything besides paypal) goes through moneybookers. doublecheck your card statement now please? visa may have denied it or reversed it.
#68 [00:28] <parker43> ok
#69 [00:30] <parker43> they they didn't
#70 [00:31] <parker43> it went through
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#72 [00:31] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: any other steps im forgetting?
#73 [00:32] <GGFG> If i start the game it says COuld not create java virtual machine
#74 [00:32] <GGFG> HEY
#75 [00:32] <GGFG> Help me
#76 [00:32] <|Kiikun|> GGFG: calm down and dont flood. what version of java are you using?
#77 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> |Kiikun| - Don't believe so..
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#79 [00:34] <|Kiikun|> parker43: ok youll have to email help@mojang.com :/
#80 [00:34] <parker43> ok
#81 [00:35] <parker43> thanks for the help
#82 [00:35] <|Kiikun|> no prob :3
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#86 [00:52] <GGFG> I have java 6
#87 [00:52] <GGFG> With java 7 it hasn´t work too
#88 [00:54] <Coll> Hey uh\
#89 [00:54] <Coll> is there any type of block the enderdragon does not go through?
#90 [00:55] <mau5ie> nope.
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#93 [01:01] <xeonsoldier> anyone there?
#94 [01:01] <clarjon1> no
#95 [01:01] <clarjon1> ;)
#96 [01:01] <xeonsoldier> funny
#97 [01:01] <xeonsoldier> XD
#98 [01:02] <xeonsoldier> i hear your the place for help wth minecraft
#99 [01:02] <clarjon1> we try
#100 [01:02] <xeonsoldier> well alright, i tried gettin risugami's spawner mod to work but the GUI screen doesnt come up, when i click on it
#101 [01:03] <|Kiikun|> ?? mods
#102 [01:03] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#103 [01:03] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#104 [01:03] <xeonsoldier> oh, sry
#105 [01:03] <|Kiikun|> sokay.. and make sure you have all the required mods.. i think all risus stuff needs modloader
#106 [01:04] <|Kiikun|> beyond that too many combos and mods for us to even track :P
#107 [01:04] <clarjon1> best bet is to use the forums for support
#108 [01:05] <|Kiikun|> clarjon1: you clearly havent ever been to risu's mod page...
#109 [01:05] <clarjon1> or try #risucraft
#110 [01:06] * |Kiikun| thinks that wouldnt be a good experience...
#110 [01:07] * |Kiikun| needs to go back out and find some birch saplings asgain :/
#110 [01:08] <xeonsoldier> well thx anyway XD
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#112 [01:09] <mollstamWeb> anyone having trouble logging in since my update a couple of hours ago? :o
#113 [01:10] <|Kiikun|> !login
#114 [01:10] <|Kiikun|> :3
#115 [01:10] <|Kiikun|> no complaints mollstam :3
#116 [01:11] * mau5ie noms mollstamWeb
#116 [01:12] <mollstamWeb> mau5ie: :O
#117 [01:12] <mollstamWeb> |Kiikun|: well then!
#118 [01:13] <|Kiikun|> most common issue weve been getting latelt (that ive seen atleast) is payment not getting through.
#119 [01:13] <|Kiikun|> and excuse my typos o.o;
#120 [01:14] <mau5ie> mollstamWeb: :O
#121 [01:14] <mollstamWeb> mau5ie: O:
#122 [01:15] <liz> what is this
#123 [01:15] <liz> i dont even
#124 [01:15] <mollstamWeb> (((( ；ﾟДﾟ)))
#125 [01:15] <liz> hey, mollstam, aren't you the one who changed the classic server list to this newer one
#126 [01:16] <mau5ie> mollstamWeb: O.O
#127 [01:16] <mau5ie> Σ（・□・；）
#128 [01:16] <liz> what is this isn't even asking for help
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#130 [01:16] <|Kiikun|> liz: ?
#131 [01:16] <mau5ie> ?
#132 [01:16] <liz> ?
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#134 [01:17] <mollstamWeb> liz: am I about to get spanked?
#135 [01:17] <liz> yes
#136 [01:17] * liz spanks mollstamWeb
#136 [01:17] <mollstamWeb> nice!
#137 [01:17] <|Kiikun|> rofl
#138 [01:18] <mau5ie> lol'd.
#139 [01:18] <xeonsoldier> so wait if i told you the few mods i have, could you maybe help?
#140 [01:18] <mollstamWeb> liz: uptime broken making order wacky?
#141 [01:18] <liz> yes
#142 [01:19] <liz> heartbeats getting passed on
#143 [01:19] <liz> :y
#144 [01:19] <|Kiikun|> xeonsoldier: probably not. just try installign each mod one at a time to ensure it doesnt break the game... if the functionality doesnt work.. then something is wrong.
#145 [01:19] <liz> sometimes the server derps and the heartbeats don't make it to mc.net
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#147 [01:19] <liz> and then the server drops down to the bottom of the list
#148 [01:19] <liz> and i'm like "oh fa"
#149 [01:21] <mollstamWeb> liz: this has been saved to brain
#150 [01:21] <mollstamWeb> now I shall hunt my breakfast, and break this fast
#151 [01:21] <liz> good luck with that
#152 [01:21] <|Kiikun|> heh. enjoy breaking it.. im finishing my midnight snack :P
#153 [01:22] * mib_1d6o0j [mib_1d6o0j@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#154 [01:22] <|Kiikun|> /dinner :P
#155 [01:22] <mib_1d6o0j> help plz
#156 [01:22] <liz> mib_1d6o0j: Please change your nick
#157 [01:22] <mib_1d6o0j> me
#158 [01:22] <|Kiikun|> mib_1d6o0j: whats wrong?
#159 [01:22] <liz> And then describe your problem
#160 [01:22] <liz> Yes, mib_1d6o0j
#161 [01:22] <liz> You
#162 [01:22] <mib_1d6o0j> i bought the game but i dont know how to install it and play it
#163 [01:23] <|Kiikun|> mib_1d6o0j: download the client and log in.
#164 [01:23] <|Kiikun|> !client
#165 [01:23] <mib_1d6o0j> i clicked it but it says it could harm my computer
#166 [01:23] <|Kiikun|> mib_1d6o0j: it wont.
#167 [01:24] <liz> Just allow it to run
#168 [01:24] <mib_1d6o0j> r u sure
#169 [01:24] <|Kiikun|> yes. thats just windows or your AV being paranoid.
#170 [01:24] <mib_1d6o0j> ok
#171 [01:24] <liz> If this would harm your computer, there wouldmn't be a community like this
#172 [01:24] <liz> *wouldn't
#173 [01:24] <mib_1d6o0j> ok then wat
#174 [01:25] <liz> Then you log in with your minecraft account
#175 [01:25] <liz> .. Well, first you actually RUN the client
#176 [01:25] <mib_1d6o0j> ok i did
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#178 [01:25] <mib_1d6o0j> ok
#179 [01:25] <|Kiikun|> mib_1d6o0j: it shoudl download the game and then give you the menu Singpleplayer, Multiplayer, Options, Quit
#180 [01:25] <mib_1d6o0j> then wat
#181 [01:26] <liz> Did you log in your account from the client?
#182 [01:26] <liz> Not the website
#183 [01:26] <liz> But the program you downloaded
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#185 [01:27] <mib_1d6o0j> wait i download it how
#186 [01:27] <|Kiikun|> !client
#187 [01:27] <Essentials_211> does anyone know what it means when i get <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Connection reset</center></font></body></html> instead of the news when i run minecraft
#188 [01:28] <|Kiikun|> Essentials_211: thats a firewall blocking minecraft. try disablign your firewall for a second to see if thats the case. you can add an exception if it is
#189 [01:28] <mib_1d6o0j> when i download the client do i have to be loged off during it
#190 [01:28] <Essentials_211> it also says cant connect to minecraft.net
#191 [01:28] <liz> mib_1d6o0j: No
#192 [01:28] <Essentials_211> ok
#193 [01:28] <mib_1d6o0j> ok
#194 [01:31] <mib_1d6o0j> i dont understand this plz start all over and plz be spicefick
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#196 [01:32] <liz> Okay
#197 [01:32] <mib_1d6o0j> THx
#198 [01:32] <|Kiikun|> mib_1d6o0j: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, Atari 2600, or Magical Lunar OS?
#199 [01:32] <mib_1d6o0j> Hp computer
#200 [01:32] <|Kiikun|> hp.. windows.
#201 [01:33] <mib_1d6o0j> yes hp
#202 [01:33] <|Kiikun|> mib_1d6o0j: download this and save it to desktop. https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe?28800626263165
#203 [01:33] <mib_1d6o0j> how do i save it
#204 [01:33] <liz> mib_1d6o0j: Download the windows client from https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe?28800626263165 , then allow it to download. Once done, go to your Downloads folder located in your "My Documents" folder. From there, locate the downloaded client and run it. Then you should be able to log in to the client with your minecraft.net acc
#205 [01:33] <liz> *account
#206 [01:34] <mib_1d6o0j> ok thx
#207 [01:34] <liz> Once logged in, you should be able to select "Singleplayer", "multiplayer" and such
#208 [01:34] <liz> And from there you can just play
#209 [01:35] <liz> !voice liz
#210 [01:35] <mib_1d6o0j> ok thank you sooooo much
#211 [01:35] <Essentials_211> nope
#212 [01:35] <liz> No problem
#213 [01:35] <Essentials_211> i turned my firewall completely off and got the same thing
#214 [01:36] <|Kiikun|> Essentials_211: you dont happen to be using java 7, are you?
#215 [01:36] <Essentials_211> i am
#216 [01:37] <mib_1d6o0j> it still doesnt work
#217 [01:37] <Essentials_211> it was working very well when i got it
#218 [01:37] <liz> mib_1d6o0j: How?
#219 [01:37] <|Kiikun|> Essentials_211: uninstall java 7 completely then install java 6. 7 likes derping out and forgetting how to connect
#220 [01:37] <liz> Describe what happens when you try to play
#221 [01:37] <Essentials_211> ok
#222 [01:37] <mib_1d6o0j> i went to minecraft.net and clicked 'browser' but then it says i have to buy it
#223 [01:38] <liz> ... what
#224 [01:38] <liz> why would you even go to browser
#225 [01:38] <liz> I told you to run the client we gave you
#226 [01:38] <mib_1d6o0j> i did but it still wont work
#227 [01:38] <liz> What do you mean
#228 [01:38] <liz> Describe the problem
#229 [01:38] <|Kiikun|> ??> mib_1d6o0j java/version
#230 [01:38] <VoxelHead> mib_1d6o0j: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#231 [01:38] <VoxelHead> mib_1d6o0j: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#232 [01:39] * |Kiikun| attempts to head this off...
#232 [01:39] <liz> Telling us "it wont work" can't help us help you
#233 [01:39] <mib_1d6o0j> i havent updated java
#234 [01:39] <liz> Please update Java
#235 [01:39] <liz> You need the latest Java to run Minecraft smoothly
#236 [01:40] <mib_1d6o0j> i tried but my bros said it would mess up my computer
#237 [01:40] <liz> It won't
#238 [01:40] <liz> Don't listen to your bros, they don't know anything :y
#239 [01:41] <|Kiikun|> :j
#240 [01:41] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#241 [01:43] <Essentials_211> java 7 ran fastest, but then it stopped me from logging in
#242 [01:43] <Essentials_211> now im trying java 6
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#244 [01:44] <Essentials_211> installing actually
#245 [01:44] <xeonsoldier> sry for afk thx again for the help
#246 [01:45] <Essentials_211> NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
#247 [01:45] <|Kiikun|> shall i take it as meaning java6 works? :P
#248 [01:45] <Essentials_211> it doesn't work =(
#249 [01:46] <Essentials_211> same error text
#250 [01:46] <|Kiikun|> hmm...
#251 [01:47] <|Kiikun|> Essentials_211: what does the following link say 'bad login' to you? https://login.minecraft.net/?user=notch&password=notreal&version=13
#252 [01:56] <mib_1d6o0j> there i installed java 6
#253 [01:57] <mib_1d6o0j> liz now wht do i do
#254 [01:59] <mib_1d6o0j> liz liz liz liz
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#256 [02:00] <MrB_> What are ways to increase FPS in game?
#257 [02:00] <mib_1d6o0j> someone help plz
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#259 [02:02] <mib_1d6o0j> help plz
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#261 [02:03] <mortisha> help
#262 [02:03] <mortisha> plz
#263 [02:04] <TrueWolves> Kinda hard to help when you don't say what you need help with.
#264 [02:04] <mortisha> sorry umm ibought minecraft but i dont know how to install it and play it
#265 [02:05] <mortisha> hello
#266 [02:06] <mortisha> it send itll send me something but i havent gotten it in like 4 or 5 hours
#267 [02:07] <MrB_> What did you buy it for? PC or Mac
#268 [02:07] <mortisha> hp computer
#269 [02:07] <MrB_> Ok
#270 [02:07] <MrB_> Goto minecraft.net
#271 [02:07] <MrB_> Login
#272 [02:07] <mortisha> i am
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#274 [02:07] <mortisha> logged in
#275 [02:08] <MrB_> Good. There should be somethong on the home page saying that you can play in broswer or download
#276 [02:08] <rymate1234> lol
#277 [02:08] <rymate1234> now
#278 [02:08] <MrB_> download it
#279 [02:08] <mortisha> yea
#280 [02:08] <MrB_> run minecraft.exe
#281 [02:08] <rymate1234> login there
#282 [02:08] <rymate1234> let it update
#283 [02:08] <MrB_> and hit play
#284 [02:08] <mortisha> ok there
#285 [02:08] <rymate1234> ???
#286 [02:08] <rymate1234> prrofit
#287 [02:08] <MrB_> lol
#288 [02:09] <MrB_> Anyone got good ways to increase FPS?
#289 [02:09] <TrueWolves> Is your computer multicore?
#290 [02:09] <mortisha> but then it sends me to a launcher
#291 [02:09] <MrB_> mine? no. crappy laptop
#292 [02:10] <MrB_> and in the launcher, login again
#293 [02:10] <MrB_> and play
#294 [02:10] <TrueWolves> Damn, one way I've found can be a massive FPS boost is running a multiplayer server just for yourself with either a second computer or on a multicore computer. As it splits the amount of processing needed between two seperate processors.
#295 [02:10] <mortisha> yea but when i try to log in it says user not premium
#296 [02:11] <MrB_> Damn. I did instale basic craft for a texture to try and boost it but it didnt work.
#297 [02:12] <MrB_> I use tiny for my render distnce and i have most things off or very low.
#298 [02:12] <mortisha> hello
#299 [02:12] <mortisha> it says user not premium
#300 [02:13] <MrB_> I dont know what to tell you mortisha, never have seen that problum before.
#301 [02:13] <MrB_> Google it
#302 [02:13] <MrB_> or just rage quit
#303 [02:14] <mau5ie> lol.
#304 [02:14] <|Kiikun|> MrB_: 'Not Premium' means that they havent paid for the game, or payment hasnt percolated through yet.
#305 [02:14] * |Kiikun| going to bed!
#305 [02:14] <MrB_> Ah
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#308 [02:16] <shaz66> My son can't log in to minecraft on his pc. he has vista. Any ideas, we have tried about 50 times over the last week, it works on my pc but not his.
#309 [02:17] <shaz66> Sorry, forgot to add, it comes up as login failed and connection interupted.
#310 [02:17] <shaz66> And bad Login
#311 [02:18] <shaz66> ?
#312 [02:19] <|Kiikun|Janus|> shaz66: does the following link say 'bad login' on his computer? https://login.minecraft.net/?user=notch&password=notreal&version=13
#313 [02:19] <rymate1234> says bad login for me O_o
#314 [02:19] <|Kiikun|Janus|> rymate1234: derp.
#315 [02:19] <shaz66> yes it does'
#316 [02:20] <|Kiikun|Janus|> shaz66: ok. have him retype his username and password into the client and login.
#317 [02:20] <MrB_> why do i get the feeling that for some very bad reason that if i click on that, i will get my account stolen. >_<
#318 [02:21] <|Kiikun|Janus|> MrB_: you wont. its actually how the game logs in.
#319 [02:21] <|Kiikun|Janus|> straight from molstam :P
#320 [02:21] <MrB_> Ah, well i got the bad login too.
#321 [02:22] <|Kiikun|Janus|> yes... because notch's password isnt 'notreal'... and id be sad if it was.
#322 [02:22] <shaz66> Sorry, he's just trying the link in on his , i typed in it on mine...oops!
#323 [02:22] <|Kiikun|Janus|> shaz66: :P
#324 [02:23] <MrB_> I feel that his password would be something very funny, just like him
#325 [02:24] <shaz66> Yes, it came up the same, bad login on his pc too.
#326 [02:24] * |Kiikun|Janus| shrugs
#326 [02:24] <shaz66> no ideas then?
#327 [02:24] <|Kiikun|Janus|> shaz66: oh thats what it was supposed to say.
#328 [02:25] <shaz66> I'm a noob don't worry. Can you suggest where I could find some answers please?
#329 [02:25] <|Kiikun|Janus|> shaz66: have him retype his username and password into the launcher and log in.
#330 [02:25] <shaz66> He's done that so many times and same thing, bad login.
#331 [02:25] <MrB_> You could always use the minecraft home page to test it out.
#332 [02:25] <|Kiikun|Janus|> shaz66: if it keeps giving him 'Login Failed' then her can reset his password
#333 [02:25] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :resetpass
#334 [02:25] <WugBot> resetpass: You can reset the password for your minecraft account using the following page: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
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#336 [02:27] <shaz66> We can't get a new password because our email address has changed and we don't know how to change it.
#337 [02:28] <MrB_> im sorry but that just a big fail
#338 [02:28] <|Kiikun|Janus|> shaz66: it cant be changed at the moment :/ theres nothing that can be done if his pass isnt workign and youve lost your email address
#339 [02:28] <|Kiikun|Janus|> MrB_: a very common fail for people coming here.
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#341 [02:28] <MrB_> Really? Wow.
#342 [02:28] <|Kiikun|Janus|> shaz66: do you still have the reciept from the purchase?
#343 [02:32] <MrB_> Im guessing nope
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#348 [02:37] <mib_zdd0dh> Problem with load comes up with crash error
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#350 [02:43] <shaz66> yeah hey this is her son the thing thats wrong is tht on my pc when i log into an account it jst goes back to main screen like nothing happened
#351 [02:44] <shaz66> (on the minecraft.net)
#352 [02:48] <shaz66> hello?
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#355 [03:02] <sugoi> was does the version history on the minecraft wiki only show up to 1.8 (for beta) if there is so much reference of 1.9 builds as well?
#356 [03:03] <sugoi> or should this question be asked on the discussions page of that wiki ... i didn't think of that until i just asked :)
#357 [03:03] <TrueWolves> all of the 1.9 builds were not full releases.
#358 [03:03] <|Kiikun|Janus|> 1.9 was never finalized. just prereleases... RC1 can be considered pre7
#359 [03:04] <TrueWolves> they were mostly released "as is" with no bugtesting or anything so people could have fun, given any such prerelease got leaked before hand anyway.
#360 [03:07] <sugoi> but it was still a build, stable/tested or not
#361 [03:07] <sugoi> a 'prerelease' is still a build
#362 [03:07] <sugoi> i've been developing for ~10 years, and this 'no 1.9' doesn't make sense to me
#363 [03:07] <|Kiikun|Janus|> they just never released 1.9 out into the launcher.
#364 [03:07] <TrueWolves> ^that
#365 [03:08] <sugoi> you mean clients wouldn't update to 1.9?
#366 [03:08] <|Kiikun|Janus|> it was 1.8.1 beta then 1.0.0 release
#367 [03:08] <sugoi> but people could download it?
#368 [03:08] <|Kiikun|Janus|> nope.
#369 [03:08] <TrueWolves> Right, sugoi.
#370 [03:08] <|Kiikun|Janus|> yup.
#371 [03:08] <|Kiikun|Janus|> all linked by jeb
#372 [03:08] * sugoi grumbles, that's still a build 1.9, regardless of deployment used
#372 [03:09] <|Kiikun|Janus|> you can also consider than Beta 1.9 == 1.0.0
#373 [03:09] <sugoi> but, i can see why people refer to 1.8.1 as the last build now
#374 [03:09] <sugoi> |Kiikun|Janus|: i see
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#384 [03:33] <mib_7y7xxd> hi
#385 [03:33] <trameathia> hello
#386 [03:33] <mib_7y7xxd> i still have not recieved my verification code
#387 [03:34] <trameathia> ok im having a problem, i registered and it says it sent a verification email, but its been almost an hour
#388 [03:34] <trameathia> lol we have same problem
#389 [03:34] <mib_7y7xxd> yeah :)
#390 [03:35] <trameathia> we must have broke the site o.0
#391 [03:35] <mib_7y7xxd> oh no...
#392 [03:35] <TrueWolves> Nah, it can take a while sometimes.
#393 [03:35] <mib_7y7xxd> how long?
#394 [03:35] <TrueWolves> If it takes more then a day, I think there is a place to contact the staff about it if you have the payment records.
#395 [03:35] <trameathia> lol cant pay without account first
#396 [03:35] <mib_7y7xxd> yeah
#397 [03:36] <trameathia> im trying to buy the game but it says i have to sign up first
#398 [03:36] <trameathia> lol
#399 [03:36] <TrueWolves> Oooh
#400 [03:36] <TrueWolves> ... huh, not heard of that one.
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#402 [03:36] <trameathia> i guess they dont wants my money :(
#403 [03:36] <TrueWolves> Anyone else able to help?
#404 [03:36] * TrueWolves is not very good at helping, so don't take his no as a complete failure, just stick around a little while
#404 [03:36] <mib_7y7xxd> it says Verification email sent but it hasnt
#405 [03:38] * trameathia test
#405 [03:38] * trameathia can do this too now :)
#405 [03:38] <mib_7y7xxd> what?
#406 [03:38] <trameathia> hmm?
#407 [03:39] <mib_7y7xxd> idk
#408 [03:39] <mib_7y7xxd> HELP?
#409 [03:39] <trameathia> i dont think anyone wants to help us
#410 [03:39] <TrueWolves> I just said, not really many people are here right now. ><
#411 [03:39] <sugoi> mib_7y7xxd: could the site have the wrong email address for you?
#412 [03:40] <mib_7y7xxd> no its got my right email address
#413 [03:40] <sugoi> what's your username?
#414 [03:40] <mib_7y7xxd> why?
#415 [03:40] <sugoi> we can check if it is paid for
#416 [03:41] <sugoi> i don't want your password, just your username :)
#417 [03:41] <sugoi> mine is payonel
#418 [03:41] <mib_7y7xxd> its not cause it wont let me into it
#419 [03:41] <WugBot> mib_7y7xxd: (changenick) Please use /nick to change your nickname so that we can refer to you more easily.
#420 [03:41] <sugoi> !paid payonel
#421 [03:41] <mib_7y7xxd> ok its AIT97
#422 [03:41] <sugoi> !paid AIT97
#423 [03:41] <sugoi> but you've received no confirmation email?
#424 [03:42] <mib_7y7xxd> havent recived 1 email from them
#425 [03:42] <sugoi> how are you certain minecraft.net has your correct email address?
#426 [03:42] <mib_7y7xxd> 100%
#427 [03:42] <sugoi> how?
#428 [03:42] <sugoi> not "how certain", just "how"
#429 [03:42] <mib_7y7xxd> what do you mean
#430 [03:43] <sugoi> mib_7y7xxd: what proof or evidence do you have that you gave the correct email?
#431 [03:43] <mib_7y7xxd> got it now
#432 [03:43] <trameathia> !paid trameathia
#433 [03:43] <sugoi> got what?
#434 [03:43] * trameathia glare
#434 [03:43] <sugoi> trameathia: payment is one of the most common issues people come into this channel
#435 [03:43] <mib_7y7xxd> the email
#436 [03:43] <trameathia> omg my email just showed up too
#437 [03:43] <trameathia> :)
#438 [03:43] <sugoi> haha
#439 [03:44] <mib_7y7xxd> same
#440 [03:44] <trameathia> yah for the emails going through
#441 [03:44] <mib_7y7xxd> lol
#442 [03:44] <trameathia> i guess i can hand over money now
#443 [03:44] <mib_7y7xxd> yeah
#444 [03:44] <sugoi> mib_7y7xxd: trameathia: if the payment doesn't process quickly, it is important to call your bank and make sure they are accepting the purchase bc international payments are often held
#445 [03:45] <mib_7y7xxd> ok
#446 [03:45] <sugoi> paypal seems to be the best route, and credit card payments for internal transactions are often put on hold by the banks
#447 [03:45] <trameathia> ? are these payments not going to the US?
#448 [03:45] <sugoi> even though the account shows the money was taken, it could just be a hold and you'll have to talk to the bank and give your approval for the purchase
#449 [03:46] <sugoi> trameathia: nope
#450 [03:46] <mib_7y7xxd> can i play it for free
#451 [03:46] <sugoi> mib_7y7xxd: you can play classic through the web browser for free
#452 [03:46] <mib_7y7xxd> does it use much download
#453 [03:46] <sugoi> i also heard today there is a 90 minute demo for free
#454 [03:46] <sugoi> but i know nothing else about that
#455 [03:46] <sugoi> mib_7y7xxd: "does it use much download" ?
#456 [03:46] <sugoi> mib_7y7xxd: oh
#457 [03:47] <sugoi> you mean the web browser experience, does it take a lot of bandwidth
#458 [03:47] <mib_7y7xxd> yeah
#459 [03:47] <sugoi> mib_7y7xxd: i don't know, never played any version in the browser
#460 [03:47] <trameathia> ...
#461 [03:47] <trameathia> paid
#462 [03:47] <trameathia> now it says it can take up to an hour to update
#463 [03:47] <mib_7y7xxd> oh its just im on a limited monthly usage
#464 [03:48] <trameathia> !paid trameathia
#465 [03:48] <trameathia> :)
#466 [03:48] <mau5ie> !paid Anonymau5ie
#467 [03:48] <sugoi> mib_7y7xxd: i see -- i haven't played classic in the browser, but playing the full game i saw that i was taking upwards of 10MB in about 20 minutes
#468 [03:48] <sugoi> trameathia: you used paypal?
#469 [03:49] <mib_7y7xxd> oh...
#470 [03:49] <trameathia> nope
#471 [03:49] <trameathia> bank card
#472 [03:49] <sugoi> trameathia: well nice -- SOMETIMES it works really fast
#473 [03:49] <sugoi> trameathia: when i bought with paypal, it was instant
#474 [03:49] <trameathia> nice
#475 [03:49] <trameathia> yah sites usually dont have a problem taking my money lol
#476 [03:49] <sugoi> mib_7y7xxd: but that was the full client game (release version), not in browser, talking to remote server
#477 [03:50] <sugoi> mib_7y7xxd: i dont think we can compare that fairly to classic in browser
#478 [03:50] <sugoi> trameathia: heh
#479 [03:50] <mib_7y7xxd> my friend plays the downloaded version for free?
#480 [03:50] <sugoi> mib_7y7xxd: what is "the download version" ?
#481 [03:50] <sugoi> downloaded* sorry
#482 [03:50] <sugoi> mib_7y7xxd: ok, you mean the client that installs?
#483 [03:51] <mib_7y7xxd> yeah
#484 [03:51] <trameathia> hmm
#485 [03:51] <trameathia> now i have to remember how to run the program on linux lol
#486 [03:51] <sugoi> mib_7y7xxd: if he is playing the release version of the game and hasn't paid - it's either an illegally cracked version
#487 [03:51] <sugoi> mib_7y7xxd: or i THINK classic was free for a time, i'm not sure about that
#488 [03:52] <sugoi> classic is the oooold version of the game
#489 [03:52] <mib_7y7xxd> she says it was the download price she had to pay and thats it
#490 [03:53] <sugoi> mib_7y7xxd: there is no other authorized method to get the game
#491 [03:53] <sugoi> that's the 'correct' way
#492 [03:53] <sugoi> pay mineecraft.net, download the client, and play
#493 [03:53] <mib_7y7xxd> hmm weird
#494 [03:53] <sugoi> weird?
#495 [03:54] <mib_7y7xxd> h0w she plays it for free
#496 [03:54] <sugoi> you said she used the "download price"
#497 [03:54] <sugoi> what was the download price?
#498 [03:54] <mib_7y7xxd> i dont know
#499 [03:54] <sugoi> mib_7y7xxd: well that doesn't sound free :)
#500 [03:54] <trameathia> anyone in here use linux?
#501 [03:55] <sugoi> trameathia: i do
#502 [03:55] <trameathia> ok sweet, im running arch linux
#503 [03:55] <sugoi> trameathia: but my video card was having opengl issues with the driver, so i only run minecraft servers from my gentoo boxes, and play mc from a windows machine
#504 [03:55] <trameathia> do you know the name of the java jvm package needed to run this?
#505 [03:55] <sugoi> trameathia: ok
#506 [03:55] <sugoi> trameathia: well we highly recommend you use java 1.6 (version 6) release 29
#507 [03:55] <sugoi> :j
#508 [03:55] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#509 [03:56] <sugoi> trameathia: as for the package for arch linux for that version of java, you can either visit that link directly ^^
#510 [03:56] <sugoi> or talk to arch linux people
#511 [03:56] <sugoi> i'm not sure
#512 [03:56] <sugoi> gentoo has its own package management
#513 [03:57] <trameathia> im gonna try this jre7-openjdk
#514 [03:58] <sugoi> trameathia: please use java 6
#515 [03:58] <sugoi> not 7
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#517 [03:58] <trameathia> crap
#518 [03:58] <trameathia> 6 isn't in the arch repo's o.0
#519 [03:58] <sugoi> trameathia: java 7 has been giving minecraft players a lot of problems
#520 [03:58] <trameathia> lo now i gotta figure out how to uninstall packages
#521 [03:58] <trameathia> lol
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#523 [03:58] <trameathia> i dont use my linux box often enough
#524 [03:59] <sugoi> trameathia: :) arch linux has a irc channel you can visit
#525 [04:00] <sugoi> trameathia: connect to niven.freenode.net, join channel #archlinux
#526 [04:00] <sugoi> they can help you with arch linux if you have questions that are specific to their OS
#527 [04:00] <trameathia> ok thanks lol
#528 [04:00] <sugoi> such as, how to install/uninstall packages
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#530 [04:07] <creeperhugger> how to convert a mclevel file to a level.dat file?
#531 [04:08] <sugoi> creeperhugger: what created your mclevel file?
#532 [04:10] <creeperhugger> a thing called ZOMG
#533 [04:10] <sugoi> creeperhugger: then i would ask the thing called ZOMG
#534 [04:10] <sugoi> do they have a website/wiki/irc channel?
#535 [04:10] <creeperhugger> is it possible to convert?
#536 [04:11] <sugoi> creeperhugger: if i used ZOMG i might know, but i don't use it -- they might be able to help you though
#537 [04:11] <creeperhugger> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/2969-zomg-2-zombusters-original-map-generator/
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#540 [04:27] <creeperhugger> sugoi: found a way
#541 [04:29] <sugoi> creeperhugger: can it be done with zomg?
#542 [04:29] <sugoi> or did you need a 2nd tool?
#543 [04:32] <creeperhugger> i needed MCEdit
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#545 [04:35] <creeperhugger> and now i found slimes in the overworld
#546 [04:37] <sugoi> creeperhugger: haha, was that the intent? (add slime regions to the overworld?)
#547 [04:38] <creeperhugger> no
#548 [04:38] <creeperhugger> no
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#552 [05:06] <Selections> hey guys
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#554 [05:24] <Zimsky> Login servers are down
#555 [05:25] <Zimsky> "Login affected until about 12:00 GMT"
#556 [05:27] <TheNoodle> lol
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#558 [05:32] <Guest_> Hey everyone. I'm running my own server, locally, for people here playing locally. Is there anyway for us to login as ourselves when the main server is ungoing maintenace? Right now, we can log into the server because I've set it to false, but we show in as other new….uncool characters. Any way to get around this during downtime?
#559 [05:38] <sugoi> Guest_: yeah, there is
#560 [05:39] <Guest_> we've got four seperate paid for accounts, but we're all local and playing on the local server I'm running.
#561 [05:40] <Guest_> normally it's not an issue, but it'd be cool if we could log into play on the server during downtime and still be ourselves
#562 [05:40] <sugoi> Guest_: google "minecraft multiplayer lan change name"
#563 [05:40] <sugoi> in the results is a solution that i use
#564 [05:40] * sugoi prefers not to paste it here ...
#564 [05:41] <sugoi> :)
#565 [05:41] <sugoi> it's a supported solution
#566 [05:41] <TrueWolves> a mod that lets you change your name in non-name varified games I'm asuming.
#567 [05:41] <sugoi> this is not a hack, but
#568 [05:41] <sugoi> TrueWolves: no mod
#569 [05:41] <TrueWolves> Ahh
#570 [05:41] <sugoi> it's just a manner in starting the game with command line options so you don't join as "player"
#571 [05:42] <TrueWolves> Ahhhh
#572 [05:42] <TrueWolves> I see, either way, it still makes sense to do on a LAN game
#573 [05:42] <sugoi> right
#574 [05:42] <TrueWolves> then someone turns in to notch to farm golden apples out of himself.
#575 [05:42] <sugoi> my wife and i play together, and when mc.net goes down or is unreachable (our own fault as our isp drinks goat urine) -- we use this method
#576 [05:43] <sugoi> TrueWolves: i suppose :)
#577 [05:51] <Guest_> sorry…thanks….and googling. Having some trouble figuring it out but I'll get there
#578 [05:52] <Guest_> TrueWolves, is it bad for Mojang if we access it in this way?
#579 [05:57] <jamietech> Hi
#580 [05:57] <jamietech> What is the link to test the login servers again?
#581 [05:58] <sugoi> !login
#582 [05:58] <jamietech> Link not command
#583 [05:58] <sugoi> jamietech: that's the best i've got :)
#584 [05:58] * sugoi isn't an op ... yet!?
#584 [05:59] <jamietech> it was https://login.minecraft.net something ?username=Notch&password=totallyfakepassword something
#585 [05:59] <TrueWolves> Nope, not bad at all.
#586 [06:00] <TrueWolves> At least, I can't see any way a command line name-change effects the server. If anything, having name varification off would make it (rather insiginificantly, but beside the point) easier on the server. xP
#587 [06:01] <Guest_> is it just an edition to the launcher string? I'm already running the .jar from the command line but I can only find stuff about editing the .jr
#588 [06:01] <Guest_> .jar
#589 [06:02] <Guest_> I'm currently using java -jar -Xms512MB -Xmx1024MB MinecraftLauncher.jar to launch Minecraft
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#591 [06:03] <TrueWolves> Sugoi, could you help out a bit? I don't know for sure on how it would be set up having not done so.
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#593 [06:13] * sugoi was afk - reading to catch up now
#593 [06:13] <sugoi> Guest_: did you google what i said?
#594 [06:16] <sugoi> Guest_: the very first hit with that google search yields this, which works for me: java -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -cp "%APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\*" -Djava.library.path="%APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\natives" net.minecraft.client.Minecraft "YourNameHere"
#595 [06:21] <jamietech> !login
#596 [06:21] <Guest_> yeah, I saw that too. It looks like the paths are set for windows installs though
#597 [06:22] <jamietech> Your bot is fast O_O
#598 [06:23] <TrueWolves> !login
#599 [06:24] <jamietech> my bot takes a few seconds to get a java IO exception
#600 [06:26] <{unimatrix}> !logon
#601 [06:26] <{unimatrix}> !login
#602 [06:26] <jamietech> ya everyone in the channel do the command
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#605 [06:29] <hmw> topic lies about the login server
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#607 [06:31] <bearlindo> when will side be done
#608 [06:32] <hmw> "side"
#609 [06:32] <hmw> ?
#610 [06:32] <bearlindo> minecraft.net
#611 [06:32] <bearlindo> when will it be upp again
#612 [06:32] <hmw> ah. it sais 12 GMT, so in about 30 mintes
#613 [06:33] <bearlindo> okay
#614 [06:33] <bearlindo> witch time zone do you mean
#615 [06:33] <hmw> GMT is Greenwich Mean Time (Universal Time), which is Britain's Winter time
#616 [06:33] <bearlindo> okay
#617 [06:34] <hmw> they should use some sort of reduntant login system, so they won't need to take it down completely all the time...
#618 [06:34] <hmw> *sigh*
#619 [06:34] <bearlindo> i have never seen that GMT thing before so i didny now what it mean sorry
#620 [06:35] <bearlindo> i didnt now what it was standing for
#621 [06:35] <bearlindo> i want to play on my server
#622 [06:36] <bearlindo> but cant log in so now we just play the waitning game
#623 [06:36] <hmw> you should be able to play on servers, but only if they allow non-auth logins. so if it is your own server, it is possible
#624 [06:36] <bearlindo> okay how
#625 [06:36] <bearlindo> becouse it is my own server but it says bad log in
#626 [06:37] <hmw> online-mode=false
#627 [06:37] <hmw> you should use white list, too
#628 [06:38] <bearlindo> i have a filed called white list
#629 [06:38] <bearlindo> the only two nick in there are me and my friend
#630 [06:38] <hmw> white-list=true
#631 [06:39] <hmw> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties
#632 [06:40] <hmw> you will be a new player, if you log in while in "Play OFfline" mode, so your inventory will be empty, until you properly log in again
#633 [06:40] <bearlindo> okay thanks for the help i will keep that in mind but for now when its only 20 min left i wait
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#635 [06:42] <bearlindo> by the way i saw a guy ho spaen 500 creepers at once on youtube the he put flying of nd dive in the stack of creepers the movie was laggy after that
#636 [06:42] <bearlindo> xD
#637 [06:42] <bearlindo> spawn
#638 [06:44] <bearlindo> hmw what texture pack do you use got any tip
#639 [06:46] <hmw> misa is very beautiful (role play atmosphere), faithful (like the original, but high res) and http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Texture_Packs
#640 [06:46] <hmw> i prefer the original t.p.
#641 [06:46] <bearlindo> okay is misa for 1.0.0
#642 [06:46] <hmw> yes
#643 [06:47] <hmw> look through that wiki page, there is many more good pakcs
#644 [06:48] <bearlindo> thanksk i certainly will
#645 [06:52] <hmw> lol again. and lolwut. (I am collecting funny bugs) "Changing the dimensions of FoliageColor.png, GrassColor.png, or WaterColor.png (found in the 'misc' folder) will cause a severe loading issue that causes world generation to be corrupt"
#646 [06:52] <hmw> so how does a texture affect world generation? Notch??
#647 [06:54] <bearlindo> hmw do you use bukkit
#648 [06:55] <hmw> no. perhaps i will try it, if i ever start a public server
#649 [06:55] <hmw> I play vanilla all the time
#650 [06:55] <bearlindo> okay
#651 [06:55] <hmw> it has some advantages, though
#652 [06:55] <hmw> (bukkit)
#653 [06:56] <bearlindo> me and my friend installed it on our server yesterday one good plugin is creeperheal that repairs the mess those little annoying things made
#654 [06:58] <hmw> yeah, the server, I am currently playing on uses something alike, too. It's quite essential, if you want to have nice landscapes
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#656 [06:58] <bearlindo> by the way have you tried painterlypack
#657 [06:58] <hmw> the nether is not protected on that server, though... but that's ok to me... every time, i walk through the road we made there, the surrounding has changed a little due to ghasts
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#659 [06:59] <hmw> no, i prefer the original pack, because I want to see, what most other people see, too. Like when I try to hide an entrance in a cobblestone-mess or something
#660 [06:59] <bearlindo> okay
#661 [06:59] <bearlindo> btw were are you from im from sweden
#662 [07:00] <hmw> perhaps we should chat in #minecraft, since this is the support channel
#663 [07:01] <bearlindo> hmw yes but i have registered my username but how do i do so the channel will recognize me again
#664 [07:01] <hmw> just type: /join #minecraft, nickserv knows you already
#665 [07:01] <bearlindo> it says cand send to channel
#666 [07:02] <hmw> hmm
#667 [07:02] <hmw> ok interesting
#668 [07:02] <bearlindo> but anyway it was nice to talk to you but now im really want to play
#669 [07:02] <hmw> so you have already registered your nick?
#670 [07:02] <bearlindo> the site is upp again
#671 [07:03] <hmw> hmm i cant login yet
#672 [07:03] <hmw> perhaps a million people is now flooding that login server *smirks*
#673 [07:05] <bearlindo> guess so
#674 [07:05] <bearlindo> man i want to log in so i can play
#675 [07:05] <hmw> chill
#676 [07:05] <hmw> :)
#677 [07:05] <hmw> me too... we could work on the registration issue meanwhile#
#678 [07:06] <hmw> so did you really register?
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#680 [07:07] <bearlindo> lets try again then what is the command for registration
#681 [07:09] <hmw> ... /nickserv register <password> <email>
#682 [07:09] <hmw> no
#683 [07:09] <hmw> ... /msg nickserv register <passwd> <email>
#684 [07:09] <CaelThunderwing> did you remember to follow thru w/ the Registration email ? thers a verifaction step
#685 [07:10] <hmw> hah. we are not allone.
#686 [07:10] <bearlindo> i know i have talked in #minecraft before
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#688 [07:13] <done929> umm
#689 [07:13] <bearlindo> damn what i want to be able to log in
#690 [07:14] <done929> minecraft says off and back on at 12:00 is that in the night or in the day?
#691 [07:14] <izzd> 12hours away yet
#692 [07:15] <hmw> GMT is usually written in 24 hr style, so mid day
#693 [07:15] <bearlindo> yea and that was 15 min ago
#694 [07:16] <hmw> It's Mojang, bearlindo
#695 [07:16] <done929> ffs i wish they would hurry up
#696 [07:17] <bearlindo> done929 im with you
#697 [07:17] <done929> lol they do take the pis*
#698 [07:18] <bearlindo> wich country are you all from im from sweden
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#700 [07:18] <done929> uk
#701 [07:18] <CaelThunderwing> US
#702 [07:18] <bearlindo> okay
#703 [07:18] <hmw> we should create a channle #mcwaiting
#704 [07:18] <done929> i think they mean 12am in the night lol
#705 [07:19] <hmw> now that would be a reason to panic
#706 [07:19] <bearlindo> the site is upp again but not the log in
#707 [07:19] <done929> ikr
#708 [07:19] <hmw> ikr?
#709 [07:19] <bearlindo> ikr?
#710 [07:19] <Wug> ikr?
#711 [07:19] <done929> i know right dude!
#712 [07:19] <done929> lol
#713 [07:20] <done929> wuggy
#714 [07:20] <done929> ........
#715 [07:20] <CaelThunderwing> i'm just idling the wait by updating my Xbox Orginal's 2nd HDD,
#716 [07:20] <done929> lol
#717 [07:21] <CaelThunderwing> i use my old Xbox Orginal as a Media center
#718 [07:21] <bearlindo> CaelThunderwing wich chip?
#719 [07:21] <CaelThunderwing> not chipped.
#720 [07:21] <CaelThunderwing> Softmodded
#721 [07:21] <CaelThunderwing> <3 XBMC
#722 [07:22] <bearlindo> okay a frind of my is having a xbox with a large harddrive he use it to play old classics
#723 [07:22] <done929> coooool
#724 [07:22] <done929> ......................................................
#725 [07:23] <CaelThunderwing> beyond video/youtube thers emulators too i had to replace the Dead 40GB HDD w/ a 200GB HDD
#726 [07:23] <bearlindo> man im tired of waitning how long will it be down
#727 [07:23] <Wug> probably a few hours
#728 [07:24] <done929> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
#729 [07:24] <Wug> cant you just play offline
#730 [07:24] <done929> hate offline
#731 [07:24] <bearlindo> why when we finally have bukkit the site needs to uppdate
#732 [07:24] <done929> !paid notch
#733 [07:24] * AuBot kicked done929 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: one929 :notch has paid for Minecraft!)
#734 [07:25] <tyteen4a03> bearlindo: it happens
#735 [07:25] <tyteen4a03> hopefully mollstam is not breaking anything
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#737 [07:25] * CaelThunderwing snickers
#737 [07:25] <CaelThunderwing> "Sorry"
#738 [07:25] <done929> why did caelthunderwing tell me to type notch paided thing
#739 [07:26] * CaelThunderwing looks upinto the sky and Whistles
#739 [07:26] <done929> !paid done929
#740 [07:26] <tyteen4a03> done929: to trick you into being kicked by AuBot
#741 [07:26] <done929> ......
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#743 [07:26] <bearlindo> se you all guys im going to watch a movie
#744 [07:27] <CaelThunderwing> sorry done929 ^^;;
#745 [07:27] <bearlindo> no im getting in
#746 [07:27] <Treebeard> i just managed to login
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#748 [07:28] * Wug kicked CaelThunderwing from #minecrafthelp (Reason: aelThunderwing :dont bait people)
#749 [07:28] <done929> wooooooooooop online?
#750 [07:28] <tyteen4a03> yup, I can also login
#751 [07:28] <bearlindo> im in
#752 [07:28] <|Kiikun|> i just logged in too... lol "May contain nuts!"
#753 [07:28] <done929> ma server offline :(
#754 [07:28] <done929> wug
#755 [07:29] <done929> u know servers
#756 [07:29] <done929> when they crash why is it?
#757 [07:29] <done929> like server lastnight crashed and still isnt on
#758 [07:29] <|Kiikun|> cyalls laters yos!
#759 [07:29] <Wug> I can login. not sure if it will stay up or if its just for a minute
#760 [07:29] <tyteen4a03> done929: If the mojang staff told us or we discover ourselves, yes
#761 [07:29] <bearlindo> that yellow text that is new al the time in minecraft once saif to me "lives in a pineapple under the sea" fun to see that notch also likes spongebob
#762 [07:29] * tyteen4a03 shrugs
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#763 [07:29] <tyteen4a03> bearlindo: there are a LOT of random stuff for the yellow lines
#764 [07:30] <Wug> servers crash here and there
#765 [07:30] <|Kiikun|> bearlindo: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Splash#Complete_list_of_splashes
#766 [07:30] <|Kiikun|> :D
#767 [07:30] <popa_qwerty> for some reason Minecraft keeps not responding after the Mojang screen
#768 [07:30] * |Kiikun| goes!
#768 [07:30] <tyteen4a03> it just... happens
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#770 [07:35] <CaelThunderwing> Seeing as Wug would perfeer i stay out for awhile.
#771 [07:35] <CaelThunderwing> !paid Notch
#772 [07:35] * AuBot kicked CaelThunderwing from #minecrafthelp (Reason: aelThunderwing :Notch has paid for Minecraft!)
#773 [07:38] <TrueWolves> !paid TrueWolves
#774 [07:39] <Wug> o/ tw
#775 [07:39] <TrueWolves> \o
#776 [07:40] <tyteen4a03> founder's finally back :P
#777 [07:41] <TrueWolves> i've been online, just not in most of my channels for a while.
#778 [07:41] <TrueWolves> Real life takes.. up a lot of time. ._.
#779 [07:42] <Wug> ^
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#782 [07:44] <tyteen4a03> we almost never see you :P
#783 [07:44] <TrueWolves> This is part of "most of my channels" :P
#784 [07:46] <tyteen4a03> whois only returns 3...
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#786 [07:46] <tyteen4a03> I have never seen you talk in this or the breakroom, and I never go to #furry
#787 [07:47] <tyteen4a03> THIS IS A MYSTERY
#788 [07:47] <TrueWolves> Hidden rooms be hidden
#789 [07:47] <TrueWolves> I'm in.. 6 rooms right now
#790 [07:48] <tyteen4a03> I know :P
#791 [07:49] <sugoi> well guys... i should get at least a couple hours of sleep before i get up for work
#792 [07:50] <sugoi> any redstone circuits fanatics out there?
#793 [07:50] <TrueWolves> You should proubly sleep if you need to. XD
#794 [07:50] <sugoi> :)
#795 [07:51] <sugoi> well, k
#796 [07:52] * sugoi goes to sleep
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#800 [08:29] <zelda> I have three days before minecraft bought with debit and still have no prem I do not know what to do now
#801 [08:31] <zelda> hello to him that
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#803 [08:33] <gPad2002> 418: I am a teapot
#804 [08:33] <gPad2002> zelda: It's been pretty slow recently, maybe give it until the end of the week
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#806 [08:47] <hmw> the renowned Celestial Teapot, perhaps?
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#811 [09:04] <minecraft_guest86436> Hi
#812 [09:04] * minecraft_guest00177 [minecraft_guest00177@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#813 [09:04] <minecraft_guest86436> Hiii
#814 [09:04] <minecraft_guest86436> is anybody here &
#815 [09:05] <minecraft_guest86436> ?
#816 [09:05] <gPad2002> ?? Ask
#817 [09:05] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#818 [09:05] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#820 [09:05] <minecraft_guest86436> what happens with notch
#821 [09:05] <minecraft_guest86436> what happened with notch
#822 [09:05] <gPad2002> Uh
#823 [09:06] <gPad2002> You'll need to be more specific than that
#824 [09:06] <minecraft_guest86436> what
#825 [09:06] <Jeff_> I purchased a gift code last week and still have not received an email or any type of gift code on my profile. The payment has cleared with my bank and I am unsure of what to do. Who can I contact?
#826 [09:06] <gPad2002> Jeff_: Support area on the site
#827 [09:06] <gPad2002> There's a section about payments and such
#828 [09:06] <Jeff_> All that says is it should be on my profile and it is not.
#829 [09:07] <hmw> minecraft_guest86436: this is a support channel, so if you are having trouble running MC, ask here. For chat, there is #minecraft. Notch left the development team of Minecraft, he is working on a new game now.
#830 [09:07] <gPad2002> What payment method?
#831 [09:07] <gPad2002> hmw: They left
#832 [09:07] <hmw> Lovely *grin*
#833 [09:07] <gPad2002> :P
#834 [09:07] <Jeff_> I used a debit card.
#835 [09:08] <gPad2002> Using PayPal or the credit card processor?
#836 [09:08] <Jeff_> I used the credit card processor.
#837 [09:08] <gPad2002> Hmm
#838 [09:09] <gPad2002> A lot of people have come here lately asking about slow processing
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#840 [09:09] <minecraft_guest18790> Hi
#841 [09:09] <gPad2002> Honestly, I'm not sure what's going on
#842 [09:09] <gPad2002> Hi, minecraft_guest18790
#843 [09:09] <Jeff_> Someone told me last time I came in here to contact Daniel
#844 [09:09] <minecraft_guest18790> Are you working at mojang
#845 [09:09] <gPad2002> There's always payments@mojang.com but I really don't know if they still monitor it
#846 [09:10] <gPad2002> minecraft_guest18790: This is a community-run support channel. Nobody here is from Mojang.
#847 [09:10] <minecraft_guest18790> Ok and where can i download minecraft for free
#848 [09:10] <gPad2002> We cannot condone piracy here.
#849 [09:10] <minecraft_guest18790> ooh ok
#850 [09:10] <Jeff_> Okay, thanks for your help. I'll keep trying. Hopefully it will show up.
#851 [09:10] <gPad2002> Jeff_: Good luck with it :3
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#854 [09:11] <gPad2002> Okay then. Lol
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#857 [09:12] <gPad2002> Hello again, minecraft_guest09881
#858 [09:12] <minecraft_guest09881> give me notch's phone number
#859 [09:12] <minecraft_guest09881> please
#860 [09:12] <gPad2002> What, you expect us to have that? Lol
#861 [09:12] <hmw> 0800-PRAYTONOTCH
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#863 [09:13] <minecraft_guest76531> anybody else problems with login ?
#864 [09:13] <minecraft_guest09881> ok i will pay
#865 [09:13] <gPad2002> minecraft_guest76531: Not sure, haven't heard much about it
#866 [09:13] <gPad2002> One of the team tweeted they were working on auth though
#867 [09:14] <gPad2002> hmw: That was the guy that wanted to pirate lol
#868 [09:14] <hmw> ah, havent followed that conversation
#869 [09:14] <gPad2002> IP matches
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#871 [09:14] <minecraft_guest76531> Yes I read that and the Information in the login screen is gone.... but I'm not lucky to connect...
#872 [09:14] <hmw> did he want to call Notch in order to ask, how?
#873 [09:15] <gPad2002> hmw: Probably lol
#874 [09:15] <gPad2002> minecraft_guest76531: Check your firewall
#875 [09:15] <gPad2002> Although I haven't heard of any login issues at the moment
#876 [09:18] <minecraft_guest76531> today I don't change anything on the firewall and played mine craft till 11:00 GMT
#877 [09:18] <gPad2002> Does it work in the browser?
#878 [09:19] <minecraft_guest76531> good idea, I will try
#879 [09:19] <gPad2002> Okay.
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#881 [09:20] <minecraft_guest22296> Hi
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#883 [09:20] <minecraft_guest76531> yes ! it worked !
#884 [09:20] <gPad2002> Hi.
#885 [09:21] <minecraft_guest76531> thanks for your support.
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#889 [09:26] <SlimeBall69> anyway here?
#890 [09:27] <SlimeBall69> i have problems with my account......
#891 [09:27] <SlimeBall69> hello?
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#893 [09:27] <SlimeBall69> -.-
#894 [09:27] <gPad2002> ??> SlimeBall69 ask
#895 [09:27] <VoxelHead> SlimeBall69: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#896 [09:27] <VoxelHead> SlimeBall69: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#897 [09:27] <SlimeBall69> ok
#898 [09:27] <SlimeBall69> so
#899 [09:28] <SlimeBall69> I keep getting an error message when trying to pay for my mine craft with paypal
#900 [09:28] <gPad2002> Go on..
#901 [09:29] <SlimeBall69> and i can't get the premium
#902 [09:29] <gPad2002> What's the error
#903 [09:29] <gPad2002> ?
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#905 [09:29] <SlimeBall69> (Reference: 56d03c09-248f-464d-a6c6-fab7ed56f70c)
#906 [09:30] <gPad2002> ...that was the error message?
#907 [09:30] <gPad2002> A reference number?
#908 [09:30] <SlimeBall69> that
#909 [09:30] <SlimeBall69> ^^^
#910 [09:30] <gPad2002> Just a reference number?
#911 [09:30] <hmw> SlimeBall69: try reading the topic perhaps
#912 [09:30] <hmw> we are not Mojang
#913 [09:30] <SlimeBall69> and then it said Your purchase was for some reason denied to be processed.
#914 [09:31] <SlimeBall69> I've searched on google what the error means
#915 [09:31] <SlimeBall69> but can't find it
#916 [09:31] <gPad2002> Might want to make sure your PayPal isn't banned
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#918 [09:31] <gPad2002> Other than that
#919 [09:31] <SlimeBall69> i just signed into it
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#921 [09:31] <gPad2002> I have no idea
#922 [09:31] <SlimeBall69> its not
#923 [09:31] <SlimeBall69> mmk :/
#924 [09:31] <gPad2002> PayPal are um
#925 [09:31] <gPad2002> A bit annoying, to say the least
#926 [09:32] <SlimeBall69> ye :P
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#928 [09:32] <SlimeBall69> do you guys want to chat with asian woman ? it says so above
#929 [09:32] <SlimeBall69> ;)
#930 [09:33] <gPad2002> Lol
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#932 [09:33] <gPad2002> Mibbit ads eh?
#933 [09:33] <SlimeBall69> ye xD
#934 [09:33] <gPad2002> Targeted ads always fail :P
#935 [09:34] <hmw> what reasons can there be to have a paypal account banned? On the side of PayPal? How would I go on on checking it?
#936 [09:34] <gPad2002> I dunno really
#937 [09:34] <gPad2002> It was all I could think of
#938 [09:34] <mib_j8rmv4> ? i am on a diff computer, i can pull up my acct but my Worlds are empty...any suggestions?
#939 [09:35] <gPad2002> Of course
#940 [09:35] <hmw> perhaps they banned people, who donated to WikiLeaks... wouldn't surprise me...
#941 [09:35] <gPad2002> Your worlds are stored locally
#942 [09:35] <gPad2002> They're on the machine you were on when you created them
#943 [09:35] <hmw> mib_j8rmv4: explain "empty"... like all black, or buildings missing?
#944 [09:35] <mib_j8rmv4> oh.....got ya
#945 [09:35] <mib_j8rmv4> just no saved worlds for single or multi player...
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#947 [09:37] <hmw> mib_j8rmv4: your saves are in %appdata%/.minecraft/saves (Windows)
#948 [09:38] <mib_j8rmv4> so the world I created on one computer can not be played on another computer?
#949 [09:38] <hmw> you can simply copy the folder to a new pc
#950 [09:38] <gPad2002> You can copy the - yeah
#951 [09:40] <mib_j8rmv4> srry.. i am a little computer dumb when it comes to that type of stuff.... could to explain what i need to do? Thanks :)
#952 [09:40] <hmw> what operating system are you using?
#953 [09:40] <mib_j8rmv4> windows 7 for both
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#955 [09:41] <mib_skkk2p> fg
#956 [09:41] <mib_skkk2p> hi all
#957 [09:41] <gPad2002> Hai.
#958 [09:41] <hmw> open the start menu, type %appdata% ... then navigate to .minecraft/saves and copy the folder(s) to a USB drive or send it per email. Place the folder(s) to the save folder on the other computer, done.
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#960 [09:41] <Wug> mib_j8rmv4: there is a folder called %appdata%/.minecraft/saves which is where minecraft stores your save files
#961 [09:41] <mib_j8rmv4> thanks gonna try that now!
#962 [09:42] <Wug> move it to the same location on the other computer
#963 [09:42] <Wug> merely copying the file to the other computer will not be sufficient, you must put it in the same place
#964 [09:43] <mib_j8rmv4> location?
#965 [09:43] <hmw> the save folder on the new pc, he says
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#967 [09:48] <Zimsky> login is up
#968 [09:48] <s1m0ne> i am running a minecraft server with latest CraftBukkit 1.0.1 R1 version. I am wondering why there are no experience orbs. Is this already the case in the vanilla server? Because of lag issues?
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#970 [09:49] <hmw> Probably you reduced particles, or your plugins/mods do something bad
#971 [09:49] <s1m0ne> hmw: ok so you say, the orbs should be there in vanilla server
#972 [09:49] <hmw> yes
#973 [09:50] <s1m0ne> then i have to check things out
#974 [09:50] <s1m0ne> thx
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#977 [10:02] <minecraft_guest87879> moo
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#983 [10:16] <westmi> cluck
#984 [10:17] <westmi> love the sound of a diyng pig
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#987 [10:21] <minecraft_guest07637> hy
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#993 [10:24] <mib_p05bcb> hey my minecraft fail saying: internal exception: java.net.sockettimeoutexception: read timed out
#994 [10:24] <Wug> mib_p05bcb: what version of java do you have
#995 [10:25] <mib_p05bcb> how can i see?
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#997 [10:25] <mib_p05bcb> do i have to opgrade??
#998 [10:25] <Wug> you might have to downgrade actually
#999 [10:25] <mib_p05bcb> oka i will try how can i do that??
#1000 [10:26] <Wug> go here: http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1001 [10:26] <Wug> click the 'verify java version' button
#1002 [10:26] <mib_p05bcb> version 6
#1003 [10:26] <Wug> its probably a firewall issue then
#1004 [10:26] <mib_p05bcb> how can i fix that?
#1005 [10:27] <Wug> do you know what firewall software you have?
#1006 [10:27] <mib_p05bcb> avg i think..
#1007 [10:27] <mib_p05bcb> avg 2012
#1008 [10:28] <Wug> well, try disabling avg and see if it works
#1009 [10:28] <mib_p05bcb> oka..
#1010 [10:28] <Wug> if it works without avg we'll set up an exception
#1011 [10:28] <mib_p05bcb> ty for helping me
#1012 [10:28] <mib_p05bcb> exception?
#1013 [10:28] <Wug> it will let it work through avg without disabling it
#1014 [10:29] <mib_p05bcb> oka
#1015 [10:29] <mib_p05bcb> i will try now
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#1017 [10:32] <mib_p05bcb> wug
#1018 [10:32] <mib_p05bcb> it si still not working :(
#1019 [10:33] <mib_p05bcb> is*
#1020 [10:35] <mib_p05bcb> my minecraft will not connect to servers saying "end of stream / internal exception: java.net.sockettimeoutexception: read timed out"
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#1022 [10:39] <mib_p05bcb> My minecraft cannot connect to onliner servers just saying "end og stream / internal exception: java.net.sockettimeoutexception: read timed out"
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#1024 [10:39] <minecraft_guest16544> Hello
#1025 [10:39] <minecraft_guest16544> Mollstam U here?
#1026 [10:39] <mib_p05bcb> My minecraft cannot connect to onliner servers just saying "end of stream / internal exception: java.net.sockettimeoutexception: read timed out"
#1027 [10:40] <Boreeas> ;kick minecraft_guest16544 No pingingmollstam, please
#1028 [10:40] <minecraft_guest16544> My minecraft will not go past the Connectin to Server... Screen
#1029 [10:40] * WugBot kicked minecraft_guest16544 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: inecraft_guest16544 :No pingingmollstam, please)
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#1031 [10:40] <Boreeas> mib_p05bcb: Do you use Avira as AV program?
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#1033 [10:41] <minecraft_guest28150> My minecraft will not let me login to servers, Help?
#1034 [10:41] <pyro3345> Ok
#1035 [10:41] <Boreeas> Wait, I just see that Wug has already walked you though. Sorry, I can't help you there, mib_p05bcb
#1036 [10:41] <Boreeas> minecraft_guest52680: What error do you get?
#1037 [10:41] <Wug> Boreeas: mollstam isnt actually there
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#1039 [10:42] <pyro3345> No errors, it won't go past the 'Connecting to Server...' screen
#1040 [10:42] <Boreeas> Wug: But he could've :P
#1041 [10:42] <Wug> but he wasnt
#1042 [10:42] <pyro3345> I went to a site Mollstam told me to and it said Bad Login
#1043 [10:42] <pyro3345> he said it was good but idk
#1044 [10:42] <Wug> pyro3345: is this in game?
#1045 [10:43] <Wug> or before logging in?
#1046 [10:43] <Wug> mib_p05bcb: same question ^
#1047 [10:43] <Boreeas> Wug: But it wouldn't have made any difference for out guest. He would've pinged mollstam regardless. So, why make an exception? It's like saying it's okay to steal as long as the shop owner doesn't look :P
#1048 [10:44] <Wug> its not a ping if the person isnt here
#1049 [10:44] <Boreeas> It was intended to be one. The result doesn't matter, the intention does.
#1050 [10:45] <Wug> I disagree
#1051 [10:46] <Boreeas> that's fine with me :P
#1052 [10:46] <Omega_Guardian> wow :P Youtube yanked a news segment cause Universal said to cause it had a brief clip of some music video
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#1054 [10:47] <Esiri> I ordered a minecraft gift code yesterday, and the money left my account, but I never got the code!
#1055 [10:48] <Wug> Esiri: did you pay via paypal or a credit card?
#1056 [10:48] <Boreeas> Esiri: Did you get a confirmation e-mail that they received the payment?
#1057 [10:48] <Esiri> credit card\
#1058 [10:48] <Esiri> No, I did not get a confirmation email
#1059 [10:48] <Wug> credit card purchases sometimes have a longer wait
#1060 [10:49] <Wug> wait another day and if you still haven't gotten it, come back. or just leave.
#1061 [10:49] <Wug> that works too
#1062 [10:49] <Gris421> My minecraft cannot connect to onliner servers just saying "end og stream / internal exception: java.net.sockettimeoutexception: read timed out"
#1063 [10:50] <Wug> Gris421: is this for all servers or just one specific one
#1064 [10:50] <Gris421> all
#1065 [10:50] <Gris421> i think
#1066 [10:50] <Gris421> all
#1067 [10:51] <Gris421> Wug do you think you can help me?
#1068 [10:51] <Wug> try s.nerd.nu
#1069 [10:52] <Wug> if that doesnt work we'll go further
#1070 [10:52] <Gris421> server?
#1071 [10:52] <Wug> if it does, then the problem is you're connecting to a server that isnt online
#1072 [10:52] <Gris421> Strange that workd
#1073 [10:53] <Gris421> So you meen that the server i try to join is closed by the time??
#1074 [10:54] <Wug> probably
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#1076 [10:54] <Gris421> can you see if you can join this server?? : pvp.6sidedworld.com
#1077 [10:54] <Wug> ;check pvp.6sidedworld.com
#1078 [10:54] <Gris421> that is the server
#1079 [10:54] <WugBot> pvp.6sidedworld.com:25565 does not host a minecraft server.
#1080 [10:54] <Wug> doesnt look like its up
#1081 [10:54] <Gris421> oka
#1082 [10:55] <Gris421> oka
#1083 [10:55] <Gris421> i will ask on the forum
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#1085 [10:56] <mib_uhgqvk> hello!
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#1087 [11:01] <henke> can somebody pleas help me?
#1088 [11:01] <henke> please*
#1089 [11:02] <henke> hello?
#1090 [11:02] <Omega_Guardian> what ya need?
#1091 [11:03] <henke> can u send me a link to minecraft 64bit launcher?
#1092 [11:03] <henke> because my minecraft closes down all the time..
#1093 [11:03] <Wug> youd need 64 bit java
#1094 [11:04] <Wug> :j
#1095 [11:04] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#1096 [11:04] <Wug> last one in the list
#1097 [11:04] <henke> okey!
#1098 [11:04] <henke> thanks
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#1102 [11:15] <dr_bibble> hello im in need of help
#1103 [11:15] <Wug> :ww > dr_bibble
#1104 [11:15] <WugBot> dr_bibble: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
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#1106 [11:16] <dr_bibble> when i start up minecraft, it says "New update avaliable"
#1107 [11:16] <dr_bibble> and i click install and it freezes the download
#1108 [11:17] <Wug> :fu
#1109 [11:17] <WugBot> fu: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1110 [11:17] <WugBot> fu: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1111 [11:17] <tyteen4a03> lol that one sounded like :fuuuuu
#1112 [11:17] <dr_bibble> i have tried that and i have the same problem :(
#1113 [11:17] <Wug> lol ikr
#1114 [11:17] <Wug> dr_bibble: whats your account name
#1115 [11:17] <dr_bibble> ohHay
#1116 [11:18] <Wug> !paid ohHay
#1117 [11:18] <Wug> do you have a firewall
#1118 [11:18] <dr_bibble> firewall?
#1119 [11:18] <Wug> security software
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#1121 [11:18] <dr_bibble> yes AVG 2011
#1122 [11:19] <Wug> can you disable it and try again
#1123 [11:19] <dr_bibble> yes ill be 2 mins
#1124 [11:20] <dr_bibble> wug? i have an idea
#1125 [11:20] <Wug> ?
#1126 [11:21] <dr_bibble> go onto join.me and then youll be able to see my problem
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#1128 [11:21] <Wug> I know what it looks like, seeing it wont help
#1129 [11:21] <skippydippy> i need mojang to do a fix on the C660!!!!!!
#1130 [11:21] <Wug> its probably interference by security software
#1131 [11:21] <Wug> :c660 > skippydippy
#1132 [11:21] <WugBot> skippydippy: (c660) Toshiba c660 laptops sometimes have issues installing and verifying their graphics drivers. Follow the instructions on this page to properly install drivers: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/toshiba_c660_laptops_and_ati_problem
#1133 [11:21] <WugBot> skippydippy: (c660) Use the following driver for the procedure: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20675&ProdId=3319&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20Home%20Premium%2C%2064-bit%20version*&DownloadType=%0ADrivers%0A
#1134 [11:23] <dr_bibble> thank you wug
#1135 [11:23] <Wug> dr_bibble: did it work then?
#1136 [11:24] <dr_bibble> yes thank you very much
#1137 [11:24] <Wug> make sure you enable avg again
#1138 [11:24] <dr_bibble> i will:)
#1139 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> Wow, tobias directs support to webchat.esper.net now
#1140 [11:25] <Wug> I had noticed that
#1141 [11:25] <Wug> we got a sudden blast of minecraft_guest2345346a
#1142 [11:25] <Wug> s*
#1143 [11:25] * GreyVulpine blehs
#1143 [11:25] <Wug> better than mib_
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#1145 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> I suppose
#1146 [11:25] <Wug> have him hook it up to a random name generator
#1147 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> Don't think it's that easy.
#1148 [11:26] <Wug> which uses the ip address as a seed
#1149 [11:26] <Wug> so people from the same ip will always have the same name
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#1151 [11:26] <skippydippy> Wait I contacted toshiba a few days ago and they said it was a java problem
#1152 [11:27] <skippydippy> not a graphics problem :3
#1153 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> No, it's a toshiba problem
#1154 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> Their driver support is crap
#1155 [11:27] <Wug> skippydippy: if you're getting 'pixel format not accelerated' its a graphics problem
#1156 [11:27] <Wug> also ^
#1157 [11:27] <Wug> follow the instructions on the getsat post up there
#1158 [11:28] <skippydippy> Ill brb im not on my c660
#1159 [11:28] <skippydippy> im on my crap one whitch can play minecraft
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#1164 [11:40] <minecraft_guest86878> hi, can anybody tell me why i cant buy minecraft via paypal?
#1165 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> What error(s) do you get?
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#1169 [11:53] <albert> Hi can u help me?
#1170 [11:54] <albert> are there any online?
#1171 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> Only the undead.
#1172 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> Brains.
#1173 [11:54] <Wug> ^
#1174 [11:54] <albert> Okay.
#1175 [11:54] <tyteen4a03> brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrains
#1176 [11:54] <Wug> I have a hunger for brains myself, most hungry I am
#1177 [11:55] <albert> Is there a minecraft expert here? :)
#1178 [11:55] * tyteen4a03 looks at the idle users here
#1178 [11:55] <tyteen4a03> Wug: go
#1179 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> albert - In #minecrafthelp?
#1180 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Never!
#1181 [11:55] <albert> Haha :D
#1182 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> You want #terrariahelp
#1183 [11:55] <albert> Okay here comes the q
#1184 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> or #CallOfDutyHelp
#1185 [11:56] <albert> I cant connect to any minecraft servers, it just keep saying "Connecting to server". Any idea why?
#1186 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> Try connecting to mc.minecraftirc.net
#1187 [11:57] <albert> ok 2 sec
#1188 [11:57] <albert> it does the same. im on a mac if its matter
#1189 [11:58] <albert> Could it be something with the codeing?
#1190 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> Has it ever worked before?
#1191 [11:58] <Wug> if that were true it would work for nobody
#1192 [11:58] <albert> Yes
#1193 [11:58] <Wug> check if java is up to date
#1194 [11:59] <albert> Ok
#1195 [11:59] <Wug> look in the software update thingy
#1196 [11:59] <albert> Ok
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#1198 [12:01] <mib_q63qbf> Considering getting my kids a new apple, but they insist on playing Minecraft. Does it work on Mac, or only PCs?
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#1200 [12:01] <Wug> it will work on both, but I still recommend getting a PC anyway
#1201 [12:02] <mib_n5v4mn> hello?
#1202 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> It works on any operating system that runs Java. Windows, mac, linux..
#1203 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_n5v4mn - Hello
#1204 [12:02] <mib_q63qbf> Okay - thanks so much Wug and Grey!
#1205 [12:02] <Wug> Welcome :)
#1206 [12:02] <mib_n5v4mn> i need someone to help me with minecraft
#1207 [12:02] <Wug> :ww > mib_n5v4mn
#1208 [12:02] <Wug> :ww > mib_n5v4mn
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#1210 [12:02] <WugBot> mib_n5v4mn: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1211 [12:02] * Wug is teaching the bot
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#1212 [12:03] <mib_n5v4mn> when i try to break blocks of rock, dirt or something else they will not break
#1213 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> HOld down left click
#1214 [12:04] <Wug> mib_n5v4mn: you just bought premium, didnt you :)
#1215 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> Don't merely just click on them. It's not classic
#1216 [12:04] <Wug> do what grey said
#1217 [12:04] <mib_n5v4mn> Thank you very much
#1218 [12:04] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1218 [12:06] <Wug> ;d
#1219 [12:06] <mib_so97n0> my minecraft worked for about a week and then every time i clicked it it sayed "could not create java virtual machine
#1220 [12:06] <mib_so97n0> i use windows xp
#1221 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall java from your system using window's control panel. Reinstall it from java.com
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#1223 [12:10] <Lobo2me> Hello, whenever I run Minecraft.exe to install/update it, I get to Downloading packages, Retrieving: lwkgl.jar 5% and it just stops. Any ideas of what might be wrong?
#1224 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> Your antivirus is most likely blocking it. We see this quite often with AVs like AVG
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#1226 [12:11] <Wug> :av
#1227 [12:12] * GreyVulpine pokes Wug with: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-35.html
#1227 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> Am i missing any?
#1228 [12:12] <Lobo2me> Any idea on how to quit AVG without uninstalling it? :p
#1229 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> Disable AVG's linkscanner module
#1230 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> It's the culprit that blocks the lwjgl download
#1231 [12:14] <Lobo2me> Woot, it worked. Thank you.
#1232 [12:14] <Wug> ;+ av If you try to update minecraft and the screen freezes while downloading something, your antivirus is likely interfering with the program. Disable any antimalware programs and try the download again.;;Commonly used antivirus programs include: Norton, AVG, Avast, Avira, MCAfee
#1233 [12:14] <WugBot> Done.
#1234 [12:14] * GreyVulpine nods
#1234 [12:14] <Wug> GreyVulpine: permission denied can be a firewall too
#1235 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> I thought that was connection refused
#1236 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> or timed out
#1237 [12:14] <Wug> and in classic, doesnt the ! bug manifest itself this way
#1238 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Eh.... I don't remember
#1239 [12:14] <Wug> I think we encountered this very recently
#1240 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> We did, I don't remember the exact circumstance
#1241 [12:15] <Wug> any chance you could test it? :S
#1242 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Gah, I don't want to
#1243 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> I'm seriously considering dropping support for classic
#1244 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Too much hassle
#1245 [12:16] <Wug> we get so little classic traffic though
#1246 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, we still do, and there's not a lot of helpers that are familiar with it
#1247 [12:16] <Wug> maybe I'll write a classic bootstrapper that saves an error log
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#1249 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Only just a handful of us really know the ins and outs of classic.. and I'm not one of them
#1250 [12:19] <Wug> wow, 93000 ms
#1251 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1252 [12:20] <Wug> thats better than before by like 4s
#1253 [12:20] * Wug is doing benchmarks on homework
#1253 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Aaah.. programming in?
#1254 [12:20] <Wug> ... java
#1255 [12:20] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1255 [12:20] <Wug> ... java 5
#1256 [12:20] * GreyVulpine headdesks
#1256 [12:20] <Wug> java 6 apparently sucks at threads
#1257 [12:20] * GreyVulpine sighs.
#1257 [12:20] <Wug> and java 5 is apparently much better at it
#1258 [12:21] <Wug> and this is for a class called 'parallel computing'
#1259 [12:21] <Wug> so being good at threading is important
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#1261 [12:21] <Wug> my program takes 10 seconds less than the professor's though
#1262 [12:22] <Wug> lol of course
#1263 [12:22] <Wug> runtime on my desktop is 21000ms
#1264 [12:23] <Wug> this is the sequential version, I havent done the parallel one yet
#1265 [12:23] <Wug> but both my machine and the CS departments parallel computers have the same number of parallel threads
#1266 [12:23] <Wug> so my desktop will still be 5x faster :D
#1267 [12:24] <Wug> I dont think I'll beat the hybrid SMP cluster though :P
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#1269 [12:24] <Wug> I believe it has 32 dual core 1.6GHz processors
#1270 [12:24] * GreyVulpine pffts
#1270 [12:25] <Wug> something like 80GB aggregate main memory
#1271 [12:26] <Wug> my answer is off by one but thats probably just a mathematical fencepost or something
#1272 [12:26] <Wug> considering thats an error of like .00001%
#1273 [12:26] <Wug> the correct answer is 95627587, I'm getting 95627586
#1274 [12:26] <basieboy> if I download minecraft I see a page with links and stuff. then if I login it says I have to play online first. how do i play online if i can't even play the game??
#1275 [12:26] <basieboy> \
#1276 [12:27] <basieboy> \
#1277 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> You need to pay for an account. Without a paid for account, you can't play minecraft premium
#1278 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> Hence, why the launcher will give you a "User not premium" error message
#1279 [12:27] <basieboy> but isnt there another minecraft. like a trial one
#1280 [12:27] <Wug> :demo
#1281 [12:28] <WugBot> demo: Minecraft has a (somewhat outdated) demo available (last updated for 1.8.1). PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#1282 [12:28] <WugBot> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#1283 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> Oh, the demo's out for 1.8.1 now?
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#1285 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> Was on 1.5 a few days ago
#1286 [12:28] <Wug> that might be wrong
#1287 [12:28] <Wug> I cant check because I'm on loonix and its windows only
#1288 [12:28] <basieboy> answer plz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1289 [12:28] <Wug> basieboy: we did
#1290 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> Read VoxelHead's response
#1291 [12:29] <Wug> Wugbots*
#1292 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> bleh.
#1293 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> Heh, that direct download is going to lmgtfy
#1294 [12:29] * Wug flips RagingTurtle600 onto its back
#1294 [12:29] <RagingTurtle600> Thankyou...
#1295 [12:29] <RagingTurtle600> :)
#1296 [12:29] <Wug> :S
#1297 [12:30] <Wug> well I have to go
#1298 [12:30] * GreyVulpine tests link
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#1299 [12:30] * GreyVulpine prods Wug
#1299 [12:30] <basieboy> ISN't there a mac demo/?????????????
#1300 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> No
#1301 [12:30] <RagingTurtle600> Blackscreen on startup after applying a mod?
#1302 [12:30] <Wug> :classic/play
#1303 [12:30] <Wug> :play/classic
#1304 [12:30] <WugBot> play/classic: Minecraft Classic is free to play. You can play online here: http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play
#1305 [12:30] <WugBot> play/classic: You must have a minecraft account to save your worlds and and use multiplayer. Registering an account is free, see :mc/register for more details.
#1306 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Mod's your problem, delete bin in .minecraft, have minecraft redownload it
#1307 [12:30] <RagingTurtle600> k
#1308 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Carefully read mod's instructions next time
#1309 [12:30] <Wug> or this:
#1310 [12:30] <Wug> :fu
#1311 [12:31] <WugBot> fu: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1312 [12:31] <WugBot> fu: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1313 [12:31] <RagingTurtle600> I did...
#1314 [12:31] <Wug> you force updated?
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#1316 [12:31] <Wug> or you read the directions?
#1317 [12:31] <Wug> not all mods are compatible
#1318 [12:32] <Wug> so even if you did it right it might still not work if you have other mods
#1319 [12:32] <Hilas> hii ! . there is some Minecraft for linux ?
#1320 [12:32] <Hilas> 1.0 ?
#1321 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1322 [12:32] <Wug> RagingTurtle600: also, we dont support mods here for the most part.
#1323 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> Check minecraft.net/download
#1324 [12:32] <Hilas> thanks !
#1325 [12:32] <basieboy> but when I login in minecraft it says I have to play online first. will that go away if I bot the game????????????
#1326 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> basieboy - YEs
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#1328 [12:32] <minecraft_guest09947> Ok
#1329 [12:33] <pyro3345> Ok so now, I cannot connect to any server
#1330 [12:33] <pyro3345> AT ALL
#1331 [12:33] <Wug> basieboy: stop sticking a dozen ?s on the end of every line
#1332 [12:33] <basieboy> so then i dont have to play online anymore!!!!!!!!!!?
#1333 [12:33] <Wug> pyro3345: try mc.minecraftirc.net
#1334 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> Yeah Wug, this demo doesn't list the version, but it is NOT 1.8.1
#1335 [12:33] <pyro3345> It will not go past the Connecting to server screen
#1336 [12:33] <pyro3345> ingame
#1337 [12:33] <pyro3345> ?
#1338 [12:33] <Wug> GreyVulpine: whoops
#1339 [12:33] <basieboy> k
#1340 [12:33] <pyro3345> Im in minecraft help
#1341 [12:33] <pyro3345> im looking for help
#1342 [12:33] <Wug> pyro3345: try mc.minecraftirc.net
#1343 [12:34] <basieboy> me too
#1344 [12:34] <Wug> its a server
#1345 [12:34] <Wug> connect to it
#1346 [12:34] <pyro3345> Why
#1347 [12:34] <Wug> to see if it works
#1348 [12:34] <pyro3345> minecraft server?
#1349 [12:34] <Wug> yes
#1350 [12:34] <Wug> I should make a factoid regex command
#1351 [12:34] <pyro3345> ingame?
#1352 [12:34] <Wug> pyro3345: yes
#1353 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, the pcgamer exe was last modified back in march of '11
#1354 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> Totally not 1.8.1
#1355 [12:35] <pyro3345> didnt work
#1356 [12:35] <pyro3345> It does the same thing
#1357 [12:35] <basieboy> is the game worth bying or does it get boring??????????????
#1358 [12:35] <Wug> pyro3345: do you have any firewalls
#1359 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> basieboy - IT changes all the time. I've been playing minecraft for well over a year
#1360 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> basieboy - Well worth the money
#1361 [12:35] <basieboy> ok cool/\
#1362 [12:35] <pyro3345> It says I have connection, then I join the server but it doesn't load past the screen hat says 'connecting to server...'
#1363 [12:35] <Wug> basieboy: if you add tons of ?s to a sentence one more time, somebody is going to boot you
#1364 [12:35] <Wug> it might be me
#1365 [12:35] <basieboy> oh sorry
#1366 [12:35] <pyro3345> no
#1367 [12:36] <basieboy> why
#1368 [12:36] <pyro3345> well
#1369 [12:36] <pyro3345> idk
#1370 [12:36] <Wug> basieboy: because its annoying
#1371 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> basieboy - because it's like this!!!!!!!!!!
#1372 [12:36] <basieboy> ok il stop
#1373 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> basieboy - Oh my god!!!! Look at me TYPING!!!!!
#1374 [12:36] <basieboy> haha
#1375 [12:36] <Wug> /kick GreyVulpine doop
#1376 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> Ow
#1377 [12:37] <Wug> pyro3345: download this and give the server a try again
#1378 [12:37] <Wug> :ts/launcher
#1379 [12:37] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#1380 [12:37] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#1381 [12:37] <pyro3345> Whaaa?
#1382 [12:37] <pyro3345> you mean redownload minecraft???
#1383 [12:37] <Wug> it saves an error log, so if something goes wrong we'll be able to figure out what it is
#1384 [12:37] <basieboy> i have to the toilet be right back
#1385 [12:37] <Wug> just download the file wugbot linked
#1386 [12:37] <pyro3345> Lol basie
#1387 [12:37] <pyro3345> tmi
#1388 [12:37] <pyro3345> ok
#1389 [12:37] * Wug nerfs VoxelHead
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#1391 [12:39] <mr_pants> after running minecraft for a few seconds to a few minutes it just closes suddenly
#1392 [12:39] <Wug> mr_pants: do you have a 32 bit computer or a 64 bit one
#1393 [12:40] <mr_pants> 32
#1394 [12:41] <mr_pants> well i have windows xp and i think its 32 but im not sure
#1395 [12:41] <basieboy> im back
#1396 [12:41] <Seagal2k> I speak only in Russian! Hi! I have a problem with the connection Minecraft license after the upgrade. Yesterday everything was fine, but today I was given a "User not Premium". Help me!
#1397 [12:42] <basieboy> did you by the game?
#1398 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Seagal2k - Did you purchase minecraft from minecraft.net or another site?
#1399 [12:42] <Wug> Seagal2k: what is your username?
#1400 [12:42] <Wug> mr_pants: windows xp is usually 32 bit
#1401 [12:42] <basieboy> did you by the game?
#1402 [12:43] <basieboy> did you by the game?
#1403 [12:43] <Wug> you might not have enough ram for java to run comfortably, theres not much you can do
#1404 [12:43] <basieboy> did you by the game?
#1405 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> !k basieboy
#1406 [12:43] * GreyBot kicked basieboy from #minecrafthelp (Reason: asieboy :<Kicks:870>)
#1407 [12:43] <Wug> ninjad
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#1409 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Dont't spam
#1410 [12:43] <Seagal2k> My nickname Seagal2k
#1411 [12:43] <Wug> !paid Seagal2k
#1412 [12:43] * Wug prods AuBot
#1412 [12:43] <Wug> !paid Seagal2k
#1413 [12:43] <basieboy> did you by the game?
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#1415 [12:43] <Wug> basieboy: enough already
#1416 [12:43] <mr_pants> ok and yes i purchased it but before i did i played with an illegal .jar version
#1417 [12:43] <Seagal2k> no
#1418 [12:44] <Wug> Seagal2k: you have to pay for minecraft
#1419 [12:44] <basieboy> duh
#1420 [12:44] <basieboy> duh
#1421 [12:44] <Wug> mr_pants: thats probably not relevant
#1422 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> Don't. Spam
#1423 [12:44] <Wug> ^^^
#1424 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> I will kick/ban
#1425 [12:44] <Seagal2k> I already bought a key. Yesterday played - today is not login!
#1426 [12:45] <Wug> Seagal2k: how did you pay?
#1427 [12:45] <Wug> paypal?
#1428 [12:45] <Seagal2k> webmoney
#1429 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> You didn't purchase minecraft from minecraft.net, did you?
#1430 [12:46] <Seagal2k> Yes. no minecraft.net
#1431 [12:46] <Seagal2k> (((
#1432 [12:46] <mr_pants> (at wug) i gave money to a friend who was already a minecraft player and he gave me the gift code
#1433 [12:47] <Wug> mr_pants: your issue is that it crashes after a few minutes, right?
#1434 [12:47] <Wug> :scam > Seagal2k
#1435 [12:47] <WugBot> Seagal2k: (scam) Do not buy minecraft from anywhere except http://minecraft.net There is a high probability that the gift code you purchase will later be disabled.
#1436 [12:47] <WugBot> Seagal2k: (scam) This scam is possible because it is possible to perform a chargeback on the payment made for the gift code. This results in the money being transferred back into the buyers account and Mojang disabling the gift code.
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#1438 [12:47] <mr_pants> yes
#1439 [12:48] <mr_pants> and im still premium it says
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#1441 [12:48] <mr_pants> he got in from minecraft.net
#1442 [12:48] <Seagal2k> I bought the Gift-key December 2, 2011 and activated on minecraft.net. Until yesterday, played, and now after entering the login and password, write "User not Premium"
#1443 [12:49] <Wug> mr_pants: the issue is your computer is not up to it, not that there is something wrong with the account
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#1445 [12:49] <mr_pants> also i have been playing it for a year-ish and it used to only close rarely now it happens within seconds
#1446 [12:49] <Wug> Seagal2k: you bought your gift code from somewhere else. it was likely charged back.
#1447 [12:49] <claude> my minecraft won't log
#1448 [12:49] <Wug> mr_pants: minecraft has efficiency issues
#1449 [12:49] <Wug> it needs to go on a huge diet
#1450 [12:50] <Wug> claude: what?
#1451 [12:50] <mr_pants> is there anyway to clear the memory start new or whatever?
#1452 [12:50] <Seagal2k> It turns out that after today's update database my username is not activated.
#1453 [12:51] <Seagal2k> ???
#1454 [12:51] <sugoi> Seagal2k: where did you buy your gift code?
#1455 [12:51] <Seagal2k> Sorry, I am Russian and I use Google translation
#1456 [12:51] <Wug> mr_pants: thats not how it works
#1457 [12:52] <Wug> Seagal2k: you did not buy your gift code from minecraft.net, its possible you were scammed.
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#1459 [12:53] <mr_pants> i dont uderstand if it uses memory that memory should be able to be reset (from 1 to 0)
#1460 [12:53] <Albert> Hi again it didn't help updating java
#1461 [12:54] <claude> so what do i do to get it fixed?i purchased mine from thewebiste so how do i get my lunch to work everytime i try to log in it says "Cannon't connect to Minicraft.
#1462 [12:54] <sugoi> Albert: what version of java are you running now?
#1463 [12:54] <claude> ill checknow
#1464 [12:54] <Albert> 1.6
#1465 [12:54] <sugoi> Albert: and what failure are you seeing?
#1466 [12:55] <sugoi> Albert: sorry, just joining the convo :)
#1467 [12:55] <claude> June(TM) 6 update 26
#1468 [12:55] <Albert> i can't connect to servers, it keep saying "connecting to server"
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#1470 [12:55] <sugoi> claude: we prefix the name of the person we are talking to
#1471 [12:56] <madalynn> i have a problem with the java runtime error
#1472 [12:56] <Albert> do you got any idea why?
#1473 [12:56] <sugoi> Albert: are you using any mods?
#1474 [12:56] <Albert> No
#1475 [12:56] <madalynn> no
#1476 [12:56] <sugoi> madalynn: what is the error?
#1477 [12:57] <sugoi> LOOK people...
#1478 [12:57] <sugoi> we prefix your name when we are talking to you
#1479 [12:57] <mr_pants> (at wug) aside from my not realiseing what version of widows i had i can uaually do some pretty advanced stuff on computers. i just need to know what to do
#1480 [12:57] <Albert> Suddenly i just couln't join any server
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#1482 [12:57] <LEVENDIZ> hey guys
#1483 [12:57] <LEVENDIZ> anyone online ?
#1484 [12:57] <madalynn> i already installed javas newest version and updated my drivers
#1485 [12:57] <sugoi> claude: when did you buy the game, where did you buy it from, has it ever worked for you?
#1486 [12:57] <Wug> mr_pants: you are in fact on windows xp, correct?
#1487 [12:58] <sugoi> madalynn: newest version of java is 7, minecraft seems to work best with 6, not 7
#1488 [12:58] <Wug> if so, there isnt anything you can do apart from maybe purchasing more ram
#1489 [12:58] <Wug> which might not actually help
#1490 [12:58] <mr_pants> xp sp3 yep
#1491 [12:58] <madalynn> i've got a ati graficcard with driver 10.4
#1492 [12:58] <LEVENDIZ> can anyone tell me how much data a 6 player server would consume if i was to be hosting it ?
#1493 [12:58] <madalynn> i try it with version 6 of java
#1494 [12:59] <Wug> LEVENDIZ: not that much
#1495 [12:59] <Albert> Could somebody help me with my problem?
#1496 [12:59] <Wug> you could probably host it on a residential connection with 1GB ram ram
#1497 [12:59] <sugoi> Albert: what's your username?
#1498 [12:59] <LEVENDIZ> I have 200GB/month..
#1499 [12:59] <Albert> KongTriton
#1500 [12:59] <sugoi> !paid kongtriton
#1501 [12:59] <Wug> LEVENDIZ: thats probably fine
#1502 [13:00] <sugoi> Albert: good good
#1503 [13:00] <Albert> :)
#1504 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> LEVENDIZ - But what's your upload bandwidth?
#1505 [13:00] <Wug> LEVENDIZ: use the channel chat please
#1506 [13:00] <madalynn> i paid for it today
#1507 [13:00] <sugoi> Albert: when did it stop working?
#1508 [13:00] <madalynn> i installed java update 17
#1509 [13:00] <Wug> GreyVulpine: as far as I know, 1mb/s would be fine for just 6 people
#1510 [13:00] <Albert> About a week or so..
#1511 [13:00] <sugoi> Albert: and before that the game was working?
#1512 [13:00] <LEVENDIZ> How do i check me upload bandwidth ?
#1513 [13:00] <Wug> most residential connections have that much
#1514 [13:00] <Albert> Yes
#1515 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Wug - Not necessarily
#1516 [13:00] <Wug> mine had 2
#1517 [13:01] <sugoi> Wug: can you paste the reinst
#1518 [13:01] <Wug> pretty much anything that isnt dialup
#1519 [13:01] * sugoi forgets the faq key
#1519 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> There's still many around here with less than 1mb/sec
#1520 [13:01] <LEVENDIZ> I have adsl 2+
#1521 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> See TheNy's
#1522 [13:01] <madalynn> when i start the launcher its updating but then the launcher dissappears
#1523 [13:01] <Wug> ?? win/reinst/bat
#1524 [13:01] <VoxelHead> win/reinst/bat: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1525 [13:01] <VoxelHead> win/reinst/bat: Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#1526 [13:01] <madalynn> sorry for my english i'm from germany
#1527 [13:01] <sugoi> Albert: read what VoxelHead just wrote ^^^
#1528 [13:01] <mr_pants> (at wug) what version of java would you recommend first of all update 7 or 29 or both (cause thats what i had until today :p)
#1529 [13:01] <Wug> madalynn: uninstall java and install the latest version
#1530 [13:01] <sugoi> Albert: i suggest removing your minecraft files and letting the game update again
#1531 [13:02] <madalynn> ok
#1532 [13:02] * sugoi thanks wug
#1532 [13:02] <Albert> im on mac, if it matters
#1533 [13:02] <sugoi> ?? mac/reinst/bat
#1534 [13:02] <Wug> mr_pants: the current recommended version is 6u30 which was just released recently
#1535 [13:02] <sugoi> :(
#1536 [13:02] <Wug> ?? mac/reinst
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#1538 [13:02] <sugoi> Wug: mac reinst?
#1539 [13:02] <Wug> uhh
#1540 [13:02] <LEVENDIZ> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1650608041.png
#1541 [13:02] <LEVENDIZ> is this good to host a server ?
#1542 [13:02] <Wug> LEVENDIZ: thats probably ok for 6 people
#1543 [13:02] <sugoi> almostroot: you in?
#1544 [13:02] <Albert> Is it also for mac?
#1545 [13:03] <mr_pants> (at wug) ok ill check
#1546 [13:03] <Wug> Albert: no, it isnt
#1547 [13:03] <Albert> :(
#1548 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> .86 megabits per second?
#1549 [13:03] <Wug> mr_pants: 6u29 works fine too, but you're having a memory issue
#1550 [13:03] <Wug> GreyVulpine: in my experience you can get about 8 people per megabit
#1551 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> figure about 50-100K/sec per player
#1552 [13:03] <madalynn> which version of java should i use exatly?
#1553 [13:03] <LEVENDIZ> Why is my upload so crap ?
#1554 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> That's not leaving much room
#1555 [13:03] <Wug> its more than that now as well, I havent tested since before the great network optimization
#1556 [13:04] <Wug> LEVENDIZ: everyone's is
#1557 [13:04] <LEVENDIZ> Hm...
#1558 [13:04] <Wug> its because isps are greedy, money hungry bastards
#1559 [13:04] <sugoi> Albert: on a mac i don't know the install path, but when you run the game it downloads (the first time) the game files, and updates when there are updates
#1560 [13:04] <madalynn> which version of java should i use exatly?
#1561 [13:04] <LEVENDIZ> So how many people can i host with that connection ?
#1562 [13:04] <Wug> Albert: try force updating
#1563 [13:04] <Wug> :fu
#1564 [13:04] <WugBot> fu: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1565 [13:04] <WugBot> fu: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1566 [13:04] <sugoi> Albert: ^^ ditto
#1567 [13:04] <Wug> LEVENDIZ: 6 would be ok, but probably not more than 10
#1568 [13:05] <LEVENDIZ> Okay thanks man i'll set it up and just see how i go
#1569 [13:05] <madalynn> the lauchner dissapeard when i do force update
#1570 [13:05] <Albert> I just tryied reinstalling. that didn't helped
#1571 [13:05] <mr_pants> (at wug) i saw some review/fixes talked about version 7 some talked about the latest(they said 29)
#1572 [13:06] <Wug> version 7 has issues
#1573 [13:06] <Wug> dont use it
#1574 [13:06] <Albert> And my minecraft is updated
#1575 [13:06] <sugoi> mr_pants: saying "(at sugoi)" works, but you can also just type "sugoi:"
#1576 [13:06] <mr_pants> (at wug) ok. would my .jar version have caused anything bad?
#1577 [13:06] <sugoi> Albert: and it says "cannot connect to minecraft" ?
#1578 [13:07] <Albert> Yes
#1579 [13:07] <mr_pants> sugoi oh thanks
#1580 [13:07] <LEVENDIZ> Wug: thanks man!
#1581 [13:07] <sugoi> Albert: are you running anti virus .. it could be blocking the launcher from contacting minecraft.net
#1582 [13:07] <Wug> mr_pants: its a memory issue and nothing else
#1583 [13:07] <Albert> But it keep saying that
#1584 [13:07] <Wug> there is nothing you can do to fix it
#1585 [13:07] <Albert> No i am not
#1586 [13:07] <Albert> Mac is safe enough for me :D
#1587 [13:08] <Wug> Albert: ugh
#1588 [13:08] * sugoi has been running windows for >15 years, never had a virus ... but let's not get into that
#1588 [13:08] <Albert> haha
#1589 [13:08] <sugoi> nor any antivirus, but sorry, back to the topic
#1590 [13:09] <Albert> No
#1591 [13:09] <Albert> argg..!
#1592 [13:09] <Albert> Why wont it work§
#1593 [13:09] <Albert> !
#1594 [13:10] <sugoi> Albert: you can see minecraft.net on the web?
#1595 [13:10] <Albert> yes
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#1597 [13:10] <Albert> im on it right now
#1598 [13:11] <sugoi> Albert: and sorry, what version of java?
#1599 [13:11] <Albert> 1.6
#1600 [13:11] <mr_pants> wug but is there anything at all i can do to fix it?
#1601 [13:11] <Albert> 1.6.0*
#1602 [13:12] <sugoi> Albert: just making sure it isn't 7
#1603 [13:12] <Wug> mr_pants: there is nothing you can do to fix it
#1604 [13:12] <Albert> it isnt :)
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#1607 [13:13] <mr_pants> someone said on a fourm that you can change the allocated memory size for java/minecraft is this true and would that work?
#1608 [13:13] <madalynn> now i deleted java and installed it again but after updating minecraft in the lauchner it closes
#1609 [13:13] <madalynn> java ersion 6 update 29
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#1612 [13:15] <sugoi> Albert: macs do have firewalls, can you turn yours off and try again?
#1613 [13:15] <Wug> mr_pants: there are limitations on how much that helps
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#1615 [13:16] <sugoi> mr_pants: such as, it won't help to tell minecraft it can take more ram when you have no more to give
#1616 [13:16] <mr_pants> anything would be better than no minecraft :(
#1617 [13:16] <Albert> I dont know if if i can find it
#1618 [13:16] <Albert> 2 sec youtube
#1619 [13:16] <mib_woyfeg> I just got minecraft.... and i cant bloody go online with it....? help anyone
#1620 [13:16] <LEVENDIZ> what time is it in your area ?
#1621 [13:16] <sugoi> Albert: i can only think of two things
#1622 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_woyfeg - Did you pay for minecraft?
#1623 [13:16] <mib_woyfeg> yeah
#1624 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> Username?
#1625 [13:17] <mib_woyfeg> welch160
#1626 [13:17] <Wug> !paid welch160
#1627 [13:17] <Wug> I should make a bot do that
#1628 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> What error do you get when trying to log in?
#1629 [13:17] <sugoi> Albert: 1. remove the minecraft files (not the launcher, the jar's that were added from updates) and try again [basically this is the same as a force update]
#1630 [13:17] <Wug> Kealper: can you do some heuristical magic
#1631 [13:17] <mib_woyfeg> nothing comes up.... i click multiplayer and nothing loads
#1632 [13:17] <sugoi> Albert: 2. make sure your computer isn't blocking the game from connecting to minecraft
#1633 [13:17] <LEVENDIZ> !paid LEVENDIZ
#1634 [13:18] <Wug> anyway I'm leaving, bbl
#1635 [13:18] <LEVENDIZ> cya man
#1636 [13:18] <mr_pants> argh thanks
#1637 [13:18] <Wug> I have had this ram for a week and it isnt going to install itself while I'm here using the computer, now is ity
#1638 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_woyfeg - The multiplayer list doesn't populate itself
#1639 [13:18] <mr_pants> wug thanks
#1640 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_woyfeg - It's only there for you to populate with your servers
#1641 [13:18] <Albert> Hmm, okay thank you! :)
#1642 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> mib_woyfeg - Try direct connecting to: mc.minecraftirc.net
#1643 [13:19] <Wug> mr_pants: you're welcome. if you need a solution to that issue, you can try running minecraft on a 64 bit computer
#1644 [13:19] <Wug> it generally performs much better on 64 bit machines
#1645 [13:19] <sugoi> Albert:
#1646 [13:19] <mib_woyfeg> it says direct connect, add server, refresh and cancel.... no games come up and i cant join anything
#1647 [13:19] <LEVENDIZ> whats the general minecraft irc ?
#1648 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> #minecraft
#1649 [13:19] <mib_woyfeg> i have windows 7
#1650 [13:19] <LEVENDIZ> thanks
#1651 [13:19] <mr_pants> hmm maybe it is time for an upgrade
#1652 [13:19] <sugoi> Albert: if you come on again later, an op here named almostroot is more apple saavy than most (esp. myself). ask him if he's around
#1653 [13:19] <Wug> however windows xp x64 is poorly supported, you should try to use vista or 7. you can also try linux, which has 64 bit versions available for free.
#1654 [13:20] <Wug> sugoi: also Scott
#1655 [13:20] <Albert> Okay thx
#1656 [13:20] <sugoi> Albert: also Scott ^
#1657 [13:20] <LEVENDIZ> GreyVulpine: i can't talk in that channel
#1658 [13:20] <Wug> LEVENDIZ: read the topic
#1659 [13:20] * sugoi thanks Wug
#1659 [13:20] <mr_pants> wug ill probably upgrade to windows 7
#1660 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> LEVENDIZ - You need to register first
#1661 [13:20] <Wug> mr_pants: make sure you get the 64 bit version
#1662 [13:20] <Wug> and make sure it will be compatible with your computer
#1663 [13:21] * sugoi glances over at Wug's new ram
#1663 [13:21] <Wug> bbl
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#1665 [13:21] <mr_pants> wug ok illegal copy wont make a difference will it (of windows)
#1666 [13:21] <sugoi> ...nice
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#1670 [13:26] <LEVENDIZ> GreyVulpine: Registered and it still doesn't let me?
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#1672 [13:27] <sugoi> LEVENDIZ: you're trying to join #minecraft?
#1673 [13:27] <LEVENDIZ> Yes
#1674 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> LEVENDIZ - Did you finish registration by following the instructions in the email?
#1675 [13:27] <LEVENDIZ> Yes i followed the email
#1676 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> You're.. not registered under that name
#1677 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Did you do /msg nickserv register password email ?
#1678 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> What nickname did you register under?
#1679 [13:28] <LEVENDIZ> LEVENDIZ
#1680 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> It's not showing as being registered
#1681 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Did you do /msg nickserv register password email ?
#1682 [13:28] <LEVENDIZ> hm..
#1683 [13:29] <LEVENDIZ> Nope
#1684 [13:29] <LEVENDIZ> How do i do that ?
#1685 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> When we said "register", where did you register at?
#1686 [13:29] <LEVENDIZ> some forums
#1687 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> This is IRC. this isn't linked to any forums
#1688 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> to register, do exactly this:
#1689 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv REGISTER password email
#1690 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> Filling in the last two fields as needed
#1691 [13:30] <LEVENDIZ> Thanks will do now
#1692 [13:32] <LEVENDIZ> Okay thanks man, I'm now registered
#1693 [13:32] * GreyVulpine nods
#1693 [13:32] <sugoi> LEVENDIZ: when you join esper again, you'll need to identify yourself each time
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#1695 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> ^
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#1697 [13:32] <sugoi> LEVENDIZ: or have your irc client do that automatically
#1698 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> With: /msg nickserv IDENTIFY password
#1699 [13:32] <Atori> ok
#1700 [13:32] * sugoi wonders if LEVENDIZ is using mibbit or a web client
#1700 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> or: /ns identify password
#1701 [13:32] <sugoi> LEVENDIZ: ^^
#1702 [13:33] <Atori> i feel this question should be obvious to me
#1703 [13:33] <LEVENDIZ> Colloquy for mac
#1704 [13:33] <Atori> but will stone act as an insulator for lava's burn radius?
#1705 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> No
#1706 [13:33] <sugoi> LEVENDIZ: you can check if colloquy does a form of auto idenfity, but otherwise, when you join esper -- each time you need to identify yourself
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#1708 [13:34] <sugoi> LEVENDIZ: that way, irc knows you are who you say you are
#1709 [13:34] * sugoi uses the term 'irc' liberally here
#1709 [13:35] <LEVENDIZ> Thanks guys
#1710 [13:35] <LEVENDIZ> Looking into trying to setup to auto identify
#1711 [13:35] <LEVENDIZ> Looking into trying to setup to auto identify
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#1720 [13:56] <sancron> Hello, a friend of mine got a problem, he buy Minecraft during minecraft.net yesterday. The transaction was done completly yesterday and today he don't have a Premium Account, where can he get help?
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#1722 [13:56] <LEVENDIZ> !help
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#1724 [13:57] <sugoi> sancron: did his accout work yesterday and stopped today?
#1725 [13:57] <sugoi> sancron: or did it never work?
#1726 [13:57] <LEVENDIZ> sancron: type !paid (followed by your friends username he used on minecraft.net) and it should tell you the status
#1727 [13:57] <|Kiikun|> sancron: doublechec kwith the bank that payemnt was taken. you also shoudl have gotten an email from either moneybookers or paypal that was your reciept.
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#1729 [13:58] <sancron> the account did not work since the payment, and moneybookers already take the money from his bank account yesterday
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#1731 [13:59] <sancron> !paid walle1003
#1732 [13:59] <|Kiikun|> sancron: did you recieve the email reciept?
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#1734 [13:59] <maggimimi> hey guys i have a problem with the launcher
#1735 [14:00] <sugoi> maggimimi: more info plz :)
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#1737 [14:00] <maggimimi> after updating minecraft in the launcher it suddenly closes
#1738 [14:01] <sugoi> maggimimi: sounds like java is crashing
#1739 [14:01] <maggimimi> and i have a textdocument on the desctop
#1740 [14:01] <sancron> He got no E-Mail from Moneybookers, the paymant was done yesterday 6:00 pm and today 8:00 pm no email in his googlemail account
#1741 [14:01] <sugoi> maggimimi: that's the error report
#1742 [14:01] <sugoi> !pastebin
#1743 [14:01] <sugoi> :(
#1744 [14:01] <maggimimi> what cani do?
#1745 [14:01] <|Kiikun|> ??> sancron payment
#1746 [14:01] <maggimimi> ok and then?
#1747 [14:01] <sugoi> maggimimi: can you paste that document to pastebin and give us the url?
#1748 [14:01] <VoxelHead> sancron: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1749 [14:01] <VoxelHead> sancron: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#1750 [14:02] <|Kiikun|> ;_; why do people keep calling~!!!
#1751 [14:02] <sugoi> maggimimi: do you need pastebin help?
#1752 [14:02] <maggimimi> yes plz :)
#1753 [14:03] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: is thre a pastebin snipet?
#1754 [14:03] <scavenger> maggimimi: Did you have mods installed? A patched minecraft.jar perhaps?
#1755 [14:03] <maggimimi> sry i'm from germany , and what means psatebin?
#1756 [14:03] <maggimimi> pastebin :P
#1757 [14:03] <sancron> VoxelHead, thanks for the info, he wait over 26 houres. When i bought Minecraft during Paypal i was able to play 2 Minutes after. So i tell him your answer
#1758 [14:03] <sugoi> maggimimi: one sec
#1759 [14:03] <maggimimi> i don't have any mods
#1760 [14:03] <maggimimi> minecraft.jar?
#1761 [14:03] <sugoi> maggimimi: sometimes it is instant, sometimes a day
#1762 [14:03] <sugoi> maggimimi: just a sec
#1763 [14:04] <sugoi> maggimimi: sorry.....
#1764 [14:04] <sugoi> sancron: sometimes it is instant, sometimes a day
#1765 [14:04] <maggimimi> should i download it from minecraft homepage?
#1766 [14:04] <sugoi> maggimimi: no, go to http://pastebin.com
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#1768 [14:04] <scavenger> Any ModLoader experts here btw?
#1769 [14:04] <Compodulator> my sheep refuse to eat grass. help?
#1770 [14:04] <sugoi> maggimimi: then, copy the contents of that file in the textbox on that site
#1771 [14:05] <sugoi> scavenger: i use mcpatcher, but not an expert at either, it works and i don't fiddle
#1772 [14:05] <sugoi> Compodulator: hold the wheat (not grass), and right click on the sheep
#1773 [14:05] <scavenger> sugoi: ModLoader for MC1.0?
#1774 [14:05] <sugoi> Compodulator: you'll see the wheat count decress if they ate it
#1775 [14:05] <sugoi> scavenger: nope, mcpatcher
#1776 [14:06] <Compodulator> no, i mean, i sheared them and now i want them to regrow their fur
#1777 [14:06] <sancron> ok the buy was 30 houres ago, the money transaction was done 26 houres ago on his bank account. And on minecraft.net support we don't found a contact adress to get support only Q&A Help
#1778 [14:06] <Compodulator> uhhh, wool.
#1779 [14:06] <sugoi> Compodulator: i thought they didn't... (i don't keep sheep)
#1780 [14:06] <maggimimi> which textbox?
#1781 [14:06] <scavenger> sugoi: I'm trying to get modloader working for 1.8.1, so I can play IndustrialCraft.. I can get ModLoader working via MCPatcher for MC1.0, but not for MC Beta 1.8.1
#1782 [14:06] <Compodulator> according to the wiki, they need to eat grass.
#1783 [14:06] <sugoi> maggimimi: the bix textbox in the middle .. just below where it says "New Paste"
#1784 [14:06] <Compodulator> i put a bonemeal in their pen, which spanwed a on of grass, but they aren't eating it -_-
#1785 [14:07] <sugoi> Compodulator: oh i see, sorry, not a sheep guy
#1786 [14:07] <maggimimi> ah..ok. and what should i write in the text box?
#1787 [14:07] <maggimimi> the error?
#1788 [14:07] <sugoi> maggimimi: copy the stuff from that error report (the file on your desktop)
#1789 [14:07] <maggimimi> ah ok :P
#1790 [14:07] <sugoi> maggimimi: yeah, then click submit
#1791 [14:07] <maggimimi> sry i'm a bit confused :D
#1792 [14:07] <sugoi> maggimimi: it's no problem :)
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#1794 [14:08] <sugoi> maggimimi: then...on the next web page, copy the url and paste that url here
#1795 [14:08] <sugoi> Compodulator: i don't have a solution, but if i were in your shoes, i'd read more wiki info on sheep and watch some youtube's on it
#1796 [14:08] <maggimimi> http://pastebin.com/9yTuVaBX
#1797 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> ATI drivers
#1798 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> maggimimi - Do you know how to update your ATI video drivers?
#1799 [14:09] <maggimimi> i already tried a few things but .....no :D
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#1801 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a dxdiag by following VoxelHead's instructions here:
#1802 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> ??> maggimimi win/dxdiag
#1803 [14:10] <VoxelHead> maggimimi: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1804 [14:10] <VoxelHead> maggimimi: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1805 [14:10] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: lwjgl -> Create tells you gpu driver? and where did you see ati?
#1806 [14:10] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: atioglxl.dll ?
#1807 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1808 [14:11] <maggimimi> ATI Radeon 9200 Series - Secondary
#1809 [14:11] * sugoi wants to be as cool as grey some day
#1809 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> ATI OpenGL drivers
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#1811 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> WHoops, forgot the G
#1812 [14:11] <maggimimi> i need ATI OpenGl drivers?
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#1814 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> dxdiag says you have a Radeon 9200 video card?
#1815 [14:12] <maggimimi> yes
#1816 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Go here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#1817 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Put in "Desktop graphics" -> Radeon 9xxx series -> 9200 -> windows XP
#1818 [14:13] <maggimimi> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/radeon-prer300-xp.aspx
#1819 [14:13] * GreyVulpine nods
#1819 [14:14] <maggimimi> I'm downloading....
#1820 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Just be aware that a fair portion of people with 9200s have come by here, updated their video drivers, and still haven't been able to run minecraft. The 9200 series is a pretty old card.
#1821 [14:14] <maggimimi> I'm installing
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#1823 [14:16] <maggimimi> yes , but i played already a demo of minecraft.
#1824 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> That PCgamer demo is pretty outdated.
#1825 [14:17] <maggimimi> hmm...
#1826 [14:20] * sugoi stills has the pc gamer demo of ultima underworld: the stygian abyss
#1826 [14:20] <sugoi> s/stills/still/
#1827 [14:20] <maggimimi> installation finished!
#1828 [14:20] <maggimimi> i try
#1829 [14:20] <maggimimi> is it right
#1830 [14:20] <maggimimi> that i
#1831 [14:20] <maggimimi> have the minecraft.exe in the .minecraft order?
#1832 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Don't need to have it there
#1833 [14:20] <sugoi> maggimimi: won't hurt tho
#1834 [14:20] <sugoi> but not needed
#1835 [14:20] <maggimimi> there also a bin and login file
#1836 [14:20] <maggimimi> and a hs.err file
#1837 [14:20] <sugoi> maggimimi: just also use the minecraft.exe (launcher)
#1838 [14:20] <maggimimi> ok
#1839 [14:20] <> just always*
#1840 [14:20] <maggimimi> %appdata%?
#1841 [14:20] <sugoi> what are you asking?
#1842 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> The minecraft.exe is the launcher. You can have it anywhere on your computer. When you log on, it downloads the actual game files to %appdata%/.minecraft
#1843 [14:20] <maggimimi> ok.
#1844 [14:20] <sugoi> grey is so articulate
#1845 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> You don't necessarily need to have minecraft.exe in your %appdata%/.Minecraft folder
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#1847 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> What in the..
#1848 [14:20] <maggimimi> i tried the minecraft.exe in %appdata%/.minecraft but it failed
#1849 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> maggimimi - Then I don't think you'll be able to run minecraft on that computer, with your Radeon 9200 video card.
#1850 [14:21] <maggimimi> i can log in and then 1 sec , it's loading but then the launcher disappears
#1851 [14:21] <maggimimi> ok
#1852 [14:21] <maggimimi> thank you very much :P
#1853 [14:21] <maggimimi> but i have one more question
#1854 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#1855 [14:22] <maggimimi> how many mb must i have for playing minecraft?
#1856 [14:22] <maggimimi> graficcard mb?
#1857 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> Really, any modern video card right now can handle minecraft
#1858 [14:23] <maggimimi> how much video memory do I need?
#1859 [14:23] <maggimimi> i mean
#1860 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> Video memory is not the issue. It's the OpenGL standard compliance that the video card needs to have.
#1861 [14:23] <maggimimi> ok thank you very very much :D
#1862 [14:24] <maggimimi> bb
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#1865 [14:30] <quaddle> bad video driver?
#1866 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> Update video drivers
#1867 [14:30] <quaddle> i tried =\
#1868 [14:30] <quaddle> but didnt work
#1869 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> How did you try?
#1870 [14:31] <quaddle> i think im updating the wrong one
#1871 [14:31] <quaddle> drivers
#1872 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes. How did you try updating the drivers?
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#1874 [14:33] <ExodusS> Hello, can i use official Minecraft texture for another game if it's a non comercial use?
#1875 [14:33] * GreyVulpine shakes
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#1876 [14:34] <swoop> i can't upgrade mincraft can u help me?
#1877 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> swoop - Why can't you?
#1878 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> What version are you on?
#1879 [14:34] <swoop> i'll tell u just wait 10 sec
#1880 [14:35] <swoop> i'm french do u speak french?
#1881 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> Desole, mais, un peu
#1882 [14:35] <ExodusS> hey i asked my question first! :D
#1883 [14:35] <swoop> when i start the launcher it say me that
#1884 [14:35] <swoop> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: connect</center></font></body></html>
#1885 [14:35] <WugBot> swoop: (derpjava) Java 7 does not always work with minecraft. If you have issues after installing java 7, revert back to java 6.
#1886 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> swoop - It's because you have java 7 installed. ^
#1887 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> ExodusS - I don't believe Mojang would agree to that.
#1888 [14:36] <swoop> why?
#1889 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> swoop - If you uninstall java 7, and reinstall java 6, it'll work
#1890 [14:36] <swoop> ok thanks :)
#1891 [14:37] <ExodusS> so i'm not allowed to make something like this even if it's for fun and my own person only? http://i42.servimg.com/u/f42/15/62/73/68/20111217.jpg
#1892 [14:38] <sugoi> ExodusS: there is quite a lot you can do with bukkit, have you considered making your game as a mod to minecraft?
#1893 [14:38] <sugoi> ExodusS: if it's personal use only..and you're not distributing it on the internets ... why even ask for permission?
#1894 [14:38] <ExodusS> nope, i just send it to some friends
#1895 [14:39] <swoop> is it allright? Version 6 Update 30
#1896 [14:39] <ExodusS> and i just convert Minecraft texture to 64x64 pixels and add it to another engine
#1897 [14:39] <sugoi> update 30? is that new? (thought latest was 29)
#1898 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> swoop - Check to see if you have Java 7 installed on your machine
#1899 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> swoop - If you do, uninstall it
#1900 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> Update 30 is new
#1901 [14:39] <swoop> i just saw it on java's website
#1902 [14:40] <sugoi> ExodusS: if you are asking for permission, mojang probably would not agree. so if you mess around, keep it to yourself
#1903 [14:40] <ExodusS> ok, thanks a lot
#1904 [14:41] <ExodusS> bye all, have a good day
#1905 [14:41] <ExodusS> bye all, have a good day
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#1907 [14:41] * sugoi wonders if that "thanks a lot" was sarcastic
#1907 [14:41] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1907 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> Accept it, move on.
#1908 [14:41] <sugoi> :)
#1909 [14:42] <sugoi> i believe there are things in life you ask permission for, and things you ask forgiveness for
#1910 [14:42] <sugoi> gotta learn to separate those things
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#1913 [14:43] <swoop> YES!
#1914 [14:44] <minecraft_guest75233> Can I get a free code for minecraft?
#1915 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> No.
#1916 [14:44] <swoop> thanks it works it was zone alarm who was blocking javas access to internet ^^
#1917 [14:44] <minecraft_guest75233> Why?
#1918 [14:44] <Hilas> GreyVulpine: xD!
#1919 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> Why should we give you a free code?
#1920 [14:45] <minecraft_guest75233> Hmm, cuz I deserve one? :D
#1921 [14:45] <swoop> buy it son of a b*** :p
#1922 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> Uh-huh.
#1923 [14:45] <swoop> it's a joke
#1924 [14:45] <minecraft_guest75233> haha lmao :D
#1925 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> If you want minecraft, buy it.
#1926 [14:45] <Hilas> D xD Lol !
#1927 [14:45] <minecraft_guest75233> Hahahah well maybe I will :)
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#1929 [14:45] <minecraft_guest75233> A christmas present for myself :)
#1930 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> Make sure to share with others as well.
#1931 [14:46] <Hilas> its very VERY cheap .. xD dont be .a shit .. this its a work of to many people who .need thath money and you want the game free .. :/
#1932 [14:46] <|Kiikun|> minecraft_guest52680: and its far cheeperrt than buyign skylanders!
#1933 [14:46] <minecraft_guest75233> Well fine :)
#1934 [14:47] <minecraft_guest75233> I just got here from minecraft.net and I saw some names on the side then it says "code!" in one so I clicked it and got here lmao :)
#1935 [14:48] <sugoi> #minecrafthelp does seem to tangle in a few lost crawlers
#1936 [14:49] <minecraft_guest75233> oh well I'm gonna play the free version meanwhile :)
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#1939 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> Whenever I see .se, I could swear it's Mojang trolling us..
#1940 [14:50] <sugoi> haha
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#1942 [14:51] <minecraft_guest02193> omnomnom bananas omnomnom. just saying something o.o
#1943 [14:52] <|Kiikun|> lol
#1944 [14:52] <minecraft_guest02193> bet everyone's checkin either facebook or 9Gag
#1945 [14:52] <calatalee> Are there a mac minecraft expert
#1946 [14:52] <|Kiikun|> the 'minecraft_guest' name makes me wonder... since the last time i saw it.. it was mollstam
#1947 [14:53] <minecraft_guest02193> nah, I swear it's not mollstam
#1948 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> Nah, mollstam gave out a esper webchat link
#1949 [14:53] <minecraft_guest02193> yeah
#1950 [14:53] <|Kiikun|> oooohhh
#1951 [14:53] <|Kiikun|> so nore more mibbits!
#1952 [14:53] <minecraft_guest02193> mibbits?
#1953 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> ... through twitter
#1954 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> mibbit is still being linked through minecraft.net/support through
#1955 [14:53] <|Kiikun|> oh.. nm
#1956 [14:54] * |Kiikun| saw irc:// links and thought they were webchat links
#1956 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam/status/147313223056629762
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#1959 [14:54] <minecraft_guest00994> derf!
#1960 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#1961 [14:56] <|Kiikun|> ok so the support page still links through mibbit
#1962 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#1963 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
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#1965 [14:57] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: more like web browsers use mibbit to handle irc://
#1966 [14:57] <minecraft_guest05346> qwebirc is really a better webchat than Mibbit, I think
#1967 [14:57] <|Kiikun|> can we add mollstam's link to vox? under something like ?? irc/webchat
#1968 [14:57] <minecraft_guest05346> But it's always better to have a real IRC client
#1969 [14:57] <|Kiikun|> minecraft_guest05346: like mIRC! :D
#1970 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Why do we need to?
#1971 [14:57] <sugoi> like irssi
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#1973 [14:57] <Bren> Or XChat
#1974 [14:57] <Bren> :)
#1975 [14:57] * |Kiikun| shrugs
#1975 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Or a better question, when would we use the ?? irc/webchat
#1976 [14:58] <|Kiikun|> for all the idiots who ask 'how do i come back here?'
#1977 [14:58] <mib_9lfqjv> i cant connect to minecraft.net how can i fix it
#1978 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_9lfqjv - Has it ever worked before?
#1979 [14:58] <mib_9lfqjv> no just buyed it
#1980 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#1981 [14:59] <mib_9lfqjv> i dont no what u mean
#1982 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> Are you on Windows? MacOS? Linux? AmigaOS? OS/2 Warp?
#1983 [14:59] <Bren> mib_9lfqjv > Are you on Windows, Mac OS or Linux ?
#1984 [14:59] <mib_9lfqjv> windows
#1985 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Does your Windows username happen to contain an exclaimation mark (!) in it?
#1986 [15:00] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: lol.
#1987 [15:00] <mib_9lfqjv> no
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#1989 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_9lfqjv - Do you get a news feed in the launcher?
#1990 [15:00] <|Kiikun|> ooh.. i dont HAVE amiga os! *adds*
#1991 [15:00] <mib_9lfqjv> no
#1992 [15:01] <Bren> Haven't users to wait a bit before their account are activated ?
#1993 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> mib_9lfqjv - What does the space above the login say?
#1994 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Bren - Some users do, yes.
#1995 [15:01] <mib_9lfqjv> <html><header><title>Netintelligence - Blocked page</title></header><body><p>Internet access has been blocked because an Internal Component has Failed (Code 8)</p></body></html>
#1996 [15:02] <|Kiikun|> Bren: ive been personally lucky in that my own activation and 2 gift codes were near-instant arrivals :P
#1997 [15:02] <Bren> Lucky guy :p
#1998 [15:02] <|Kiikun|> mib_9lfqjv: o.o;;;
#1999 [15:02] <Bren> mib_9lfqjv > Are you doing this at home ?
#2000 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Child safety program
#2001 [15:02] <mib_9lfqjv> yh
#2002 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to disable Netintelligence, or get a parent to do it
#2003 [15:03] <calatalee> Are there any mac minecraft expert :)
#2004 [15:03] <mib_9lfqjv> it has bean
#2005 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> It's not, apparent by the error message.
#2006 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> calatalee - If you ask your question, perhaps one will speak up
#2007 [15:03] <mib_9lfqjv> no
#2008 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_9lfqjv - The problem is with Netintelligence, the error says so.
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#2010 [15:04] <mib_9lfqjv> so wot can i do
#2011 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Disable netintelligence, configure netintelligence to allow minecraft through as an exception, or uninstall netintelligence
#2012 [15:04] <Boreeas> mib_9lfqjv: Tell your parents to either disable it completely or remove it (which is what I would do)
#2013 [15:05] <mib_9lfqjv> how do i configure it to allow minecraft
#2014 [15:05] <Boreeas> mib_9lfqjv: Better ask the netintelligence support for that
#2015 [15:06] <|Kiikun|> http://kb.netintelligence.com/pages/Allowing_a_specific_website_that_is_in_a_category
#2016 [15:06] <|Kiikun|> netint wiki!
#2017 [15:07] * |Kiikun| hasnt found what code 8 really means yet...
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#2018 [15:14] * |Kiikun| still oves that his farm ceiling is dripping lava :P
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#2023 [15:20] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: is the lava a reminder to your farm animals just who is in charge?
#2024 [15:20] <sugoi> and to stop jumping like lunatics to get out
#2025 [15:21] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: no. its plants, not animals. have yet to build cages for the animals... muich less lure them across the ocean :P
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#2027 [15:21] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: haha
#2028 [15:22] <mib_iqa6fd> I
#2029 [15:22] <mib_iqa6fd> I when I play minecraft browser it says done loading but never loads
#2030 [15:22] <sugoi> mib_iqa6fd: do you have java?
#2031 [15:22] <mib_iqa6fd> yes.
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#2033 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Has it ever worked before?
#2034 [15:23] <mib_iqa6fd> Yep
#2035 [15:23] <sugoi> mib_iqa6fd: in browser before?
#2036 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Operating system?
#2037 [15:23] <mib_iqa6fd> I'mplaying it in browser.
#2038 [15:23] <mib_iqa6fd> window 7
#2039 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_iqa6fd win/reinst
#2040 [15:24] <VoxelHead> mib_iqa6fd: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2041 [15:24] <VoxelHead> mib_iqa6fd: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2042 [15:24] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: the browser app installs to appdata too?
#2043 [15:24] * GreyVulpine nods
#2043 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Both browser and downloadable client use the same working folder
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#2046 [15:25] <gunther> hi
#2047 [15:25] <mib_iqa6fd> Ok I'l try that.
#2048 [15:25] <sugoi> gunther: hello
#2049 [15:26] <gunther> Can I ask someone here for help? :)
#2050 [15:26] <sugoi> gunther: just ask everyone
#2051 [15:26] <Bren> gunther > Ask :)
#2052 [15:27] <gunther> Ok, so on friday last week I purchased Minecraft
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#2054 [15:27] <gunther> I got the confirmation email from moneybookers.com that my payment was successful
#2055 [15:27] <mr_trousers> hi there can someone help me update my video drivers?
#2056 [15:27] <mr_trousers> please and thank you =]
#2057 [15:27] <sugoi> mr_trousers: what card?
#2058 [15:27] <sugoi> mr_trousers: and what os?
#2059 [15:27] <gunther> But my account is stil regular, and not premium
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#2061 [15:28] <gunther> and I'm sure I've payed
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#2063 [15:28] <sugoi> gunther: did you buy a giftcode?
#2064 [15:28] <mr_trousers> i have xp and i dont know what my video card is
#2065 [15:28] <sugoi> :profile
#2066 [15:28] <WugBot> profile: Minecraft Account Profile Page: http://www.minecraft.net/profile
#2067 [15:28] <gunther> no, just bought it from the website
#2068 [15:28] <sugoi> gunther: go to your profile
#2069 [15:28] <sugoi> gunther: go to your profile
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#2071 [15:28] <sugoi> does it show giftcodes available?
#2072 [15:28] <mr_trousers> wugbot ^_^
#2073 [15:28] <gunther> You currently haven't bought any gift codes, click here to buy one.
#2074 [15:28] <gunther> nope
#2075 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> gunther - I'd first call your bank, see if there was a chance the payment was stopped or reversed. Many banks have automatic fraud protection for international purchases.
#2076 [15:29] <sugoi> :dxdiag
#2077 [15:29] <mr_trousers> yay!
#2078 [15:29] <sugoi> dang, i need to learn those
#2079 [15:29] <mr_trousers> thank you =D
#2080 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#2081 [15:29] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2082 [15:29] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2083 [15:29] <MadCrafter> hello umm i am have trubbles with my account. i was just playsing and logged off to look at something. when i tryed to get back on it wld not let me, said i had wrong password or name.
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#2085 [15:29] <MadCrafter> well i know i had the right name and password?
#2086 [15:29] <MadCrafter> can any 1 help?
#2087 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> MadCrafter - ensure you're putting in the right password. If you're unsure, reset the password
#2088 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> :resetpassword
#2089 [15:29] <sugoi> mr_trousers: thanks for what?, anyways, please read what VoxelHead wrote, that'll help use see your video acrd type
#2090 [15:30] <MadCrafter> i did i reset the pass and it still wont let me.
#2091 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> MadCrafter - What is the exact error you're getting?
#2092 [15:31] <mr_trousers> http://pastebin.com/N4izcFFv
#2093 [15:31] <MadCrafter> say's oop's unknown username or password.
#2094 [15:31] <gunther> called the bank, they say that nothing was wrong with the payment
#2095 [15:31] <gunther> so now what?
#2096 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> gunther - Send an email to help@mojang.com with the transaction ID from moneybookers.
#2097 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Along with a description of your problem.
#2098 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> MadCrafter - Have you tried with a different browser?
#2099 [15:32] <gunther> I already tried that, but I didn't get a single reply yet
#2100 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> gunther - There's nothing we can do here for you. We're not Mojang.
#2101 [15:32] <MadCrafter> umm transaction id?
#2102 [15:33] <mr_trousers> sugoi for helping me find my driver
#2103 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> MadCrafter - Wasn't directed at you
#2104 [15:33] <sugoi> mr_trousers: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420
#2105 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Oh yikes that is an old card
#2106 [15:33] <sugoi> so....(finding nvidia link)
#2107 [15:33] <sugoi> oh...my, it is
#2108 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> You can try, but I'm not sure it can handle minecraft..
#2109 [15:34] <|Kiikun|> holy crap! i have a 440 in my server <.< oi think
#2110 [15:34] <|Kiikun|> its one of my 'old but works better than the sis card' cards
#2111 [15:34] <MadCrafter> please.. im ganna freak the fuck out i dont know what to do i fell like i just wasted 30 bucks..
#2112 [15:34] <mr_trousers> =\
#2113 [15:34] * AuBot kicked MadCrafter from #minecrafthelp (Reason: adCrafter :Please keep it civil.)
#2114 [15:35] <mr_trousers> calm down madcrafter no need for fowl language
#2115 [15:35] <mr_trousers> so my comp wont handle mindcraft ugh?
#2116 [15:36] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: i think that's going to be a legacy driver...
#2117 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, you can try these drivers...
#2118 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/5
#2119 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> But I seriously doubt the Geforce4 series will be able to handle minecraft
#2120 [15:37] <sugoi> mr_trousers: grey gave you a link (in case you didn't read that) ^^
#2121 [15:37] <mr_trousers> GreyVulpine thank you soo much i will try that ^_^
#2122 [15:38] <mr_trousers> yea its just im at my sisters house for the week and its gonna keep me sane
#2123 [15:38] <mr_trousers> i dont have my computer =[
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#2125 [15:38] <sugoi> mr_trousers: oh, so your home machine fairs better than that?
#2126 [15:39] <mr_trousers> yea somewhat i dont really know much about computers but im able to run bf3 and minecraft .. minecrafts just been soo addicting lol
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#2128 [15:53] <soldatus> Hello, I have a nickname and have purcased this game, but im not abel to play it. What is the problem? The money are drawn from the account.
#2129 [15:53] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: i think purchasing should be in the topic :)
#2130 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> mrah, it kinda is. We aren't Mojang, and can't help with account issues
#2131 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> soldatus - It could take a few hours for the payment to go through
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#2133 [15:58] <waddawaddawinbat> i had minecraft but then my computer went weird and when i try to login my game screen goes black and doesn't do anything can you help?
#2134 [15:59] <sugoi> waddawaddawinbat: did you update java?
#2135 [15:59] <waddawaddawinbat> what version should i have?
#2136 [15:59] <sugoi> java 6
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#2138 [15:59] <|Kiikun|> :j
#2139 [15:59] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#2140 [16:00] <|Kiikun|> ooh.. u30 *notes to update later*
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#2143 [16:00] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: yep, i just saw that in here earlier as well
#2144 [16:00] <Justin> can someone lend me a few words of advice?
#2145 [16:00] <sugoi> Justin: take the red pill
#2146 [16:01] <Justin> lol, I knew it!!!
#2147 [16:01] * sugoi tips hat
#2147 [16:01] <Justin> But seriously, I need a bit of help trying to get texture packs to work
#2148 [16:01] <|Kiikun|> Justin: no the red pill makes you have explosive diahrea... out the nose...
#2149 [16:01] <|Kiikun|> Justin: you just need to place the zip file in the texturepacks folder.
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#2151 [16:02] <Justin> I did that, and I can't open the texture pack folder from within the game
#2152 [16:02] <|Kiikun|> and makes ure the pack is for that version of minecraft and if its HD, you need the mcpatcher mod
#2153 [16:02] <Omega_Guardian> or use Optifine, it has built in support for hd skins
#2154 [16:02] <|Kiikun|> Justin: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, Atari 2600, or HyperOS?
#2155 [16:02] <|Kiikun|> Omega_Guardian: that too :P
#2156 [16:02] <Justin> OS X
#2157 [16:03] <|Kiikun|> ?? mac/.minecraft
#2158 [16:03] <VoxelHead> mac/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#2159 [16:03] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: there's the mac command!
#2160 [16:03] <|Kiikun|> Justin: and make sure its the user library, not the system library
#2161 [16:03] <sage> do you know why my mine craft folder isn't in Application Support? I'm on a mac
#2162 [16:03] <waddawaddawinbat> i dont know how to check if i have java 6 for minecraft
#2163 [16:03] <|Kiikun|> sage: what i just said :P
#2164 [16:03] <Justin> yes, I put the zip file for the pack that I want in there, but it refuses to open in game
#2165 [16:04] <sage> i don't have a library under my user name?
#2166 [16:04] <|Kiikun|> Justin: did you rezip it on the mac (thus fillign it with that _MACOSX bs folder?)
#2167 [16:04] <sage> only under the system...
#2168 [16:04] <Justin> yea, I rezipped it after I downloaded it
#2169 [16:05] <|Kiikun|> sage: ~/Library/Application Support
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#2171 [16:05] <sugoi> why would you want to rezip it?
#2172 [16:05] <sugoi> Justin: i'm not helping, just asking (kiikun will have more support)
#2173 [16:05] <|Kiikun|> Justin: i dont use a mac... but i know theres somethign about the way mac default zips stuff that breaks texture packs
#2174 [16:05] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: mac autounzips stuff :/
#2175 [16:05] <sugoi> k'oh
#2176 [16:06] <sage> yea how do i get around that?
#2177 [16:06] <sage> do you know
#2178 [16:06] <Omega_Guardian> sounds nasty
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#2180 [16:06] * sugoi feels naseous
#2180 [16:06] <Justin> I just rezipped it because the site I got it from told me it had to be in compressed format
#2181 [16:06] <sage> because there is not mine craft folder, i can find library, application support
#2182 [16:06] <|Kiikun|> theres an option somewhere in the browser.
#2183 [16:06] <peeves> my minecraft doesnt work and someone says i need java 6 i dont know how to get it or find out if i already have it
#2184 [16:06] <|Kiikun|> ??> peeves java/version
#2185 [16:06] <VoxelHead> peeves: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2186 [16:06] <VoxelHead> peeves: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2187 [16:06] <peeves> thanks
#2188 [16:06] <sugoi> peeves: note that the latest java is 7
#2189 [16:06] <|Kiikun|> peeves: that will only tell you your 32bit version. is your os 54bit?
#2190 [16:07] <sugoi> peeves: but you should use 6
#2191 [16:07] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: java 7 isnt recomended release yet
#2192 [16:07] <sugoi> thanks
#2193 [16:07] <|Kiikun|> you have to pick it manually
#2194 [16:07] <peeves> my is 32 bit
#2195 [16:07] <sage> when i install mine craft on my mac, it just install mine craft automatically, unlike other apps where i have to manually throw it in my application folder, is this because its automatically unzipping it?
#2196 [16:07] <peeves> i have java 6
#2197 [16:07] <peeves> but it doesnt work
#2198 [16:08] <Justin> well I figured out how to keep my mac from unzipping them....
#2199 [16:08] <sage> how//????
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#2201 [16:08] <peeves> i dont know what to do
#2202 [16:09] <|Kiikun|> peeves: whats it doing or not doing?
#2203 [16:09] <peeves> i type in my stuff and then it loads and then the screen goes black
#2204 [16:10] <|Kiikun|> peeves: you see the mojang logo?
#2205 [16:10] <sage> justin, any help ?
#2206 [16:10] <peeves> no it says it loads and then stops
#2207 [16:10] <Justin> Sage: in safari, go to preferences, click the general tab, and uncheck 'automatically open safe files'
#2208 [16:10] <|Kiikun|> sage: i think its in the browser options somewhere.
#2209 [16:10] <peeves> what?
#2210 [16:10] <Justin> just did that, and now my tex packs work
#2211 [16:11] <sage> thanks
#2212 [16:11] <|Kiikun|> peeves: have you tried a forceupdate yet?
#2213 [16:11] <peeves> yeah couple days ago
#2214 [16:11] <sage> so where have my save games been saving then? since theres no folder
#2215 [16:12] <|Kiikun|> sage: the fodler is there. its under your user. whats version of os x you on? i know one hides it.
#2216 [16:12] <sage> justin, now do you have access to the mine craft folder in library-application support??
#2217 [16:12] <sage> I'm on lion
#2218 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> lion hides it
#2219 [16:12] <peeves> i just dont get it
#2220 [16:12] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: thoguht so.. just dont remember the chmod command for mac
#2221 [16:12] <sage> i already ran a script in terminal to show hidden files and it stilll was not there though?
#2222 [16:12] <Justin> yea, mine was there before tho. I'm on snow leopard too, which might have something to do with it...
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#2224 [16:13] <peeves> it worked before the comp cleanout
#2225 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> sage - Make sure you're looking in /users/username/Library/Application support/
#2226 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Not /Library/Application Support/
#2227 [16:13] <sage> so justin after downloading the zip file what do you do with it?
#2228 [16:13] <|Kiikun|> sage: type this in the terminal. chflags nohidden ~/Library/
#2229 [16:13] <sage> greyvulpine i don't have a library under my user name.. how can that be
#2230 [16:13] <sage> only under my system
#2231 [16:13] <|Kiikun|> ~/ is an alias for /Users/<Username>/
#2232 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> Follow |Kiikun|'s instructions to unhide it
#2233 [16:14] <Justin> I put it in Library/Application Support/Minecraft/Texture Packs
#2234 [16:14] <sage> the whole zip file justin?
#2235 [16:14] <peeves> i cant get it to go on
#2236 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> Lion hides the ~/library/ folder by default
#2237 [16:14] <|Kiikun|> Justin: your not on 10.7/Lion i asume, since you had no trouble finding it :P
#2238 [16:14] <Justin> yep. Straight from the downloads folder
#2239 [16:15] <sage> so what do i write in terminal, can you put in quotes please so i can copy my username is sage
#2240 [16:15] <Justin> yea, I'm on 10.6
#2241 [16:15] <|Kiikun|> chflags nohidden ~/Library/
#2242 [16:15] <|Kiikun|> ^ that sage
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#2244 [16:15] <bellows> my minecraft doesnt work after comp cleanout
#2245 [16:15] <sage> thankyou
#2246 [16:16] <|Kiikun|> bellows/peeves: have you modded the game at all?
#2247 [16:16] <bellows> no
#2248 [16:16] <sage> AWESOME GUYS!! it worked. thanks kilkiun and greyvulpine and justin
#2249 [16:16] <sage> so can i leave the folder unhidden????
#2250 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2251 [16:17] <bellows> the screen just goes blank after login
#2252 [16:17] <|Kiikun|> sage: i woudl think its fine. hidding things is only to prevent the user for manipulating them by accident
#2253 [16:17] <sage> okay, so now I'm not quite understanding why justing through the .zip file in mine craft. since its unhidden isn't okay that my mine craft is unzipped/
#2254 [16:18] <|Kiikun|> bellows: have you tried updatign your video drivers?
#2255 [16:18] * |Kiikun| is makign guesses now.
#2255 [16:19] <bellows> waht are vidio drivers
#2256 [16:20] <sage> greyvulpine why when i click texture packs in game menu it does not open folder that is now unhidden?
#2257 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to open the textuepacks folder manually.
#2258 [16:20] <sage> through the finder? outside of the game?
#2259 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> /users/username/Library/Application Support/minecraft/texturepacks
#2260 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> er, yeah
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#2262 [16:21] <sage> okay, so can i delete the zip file now?
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#2264 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> What zip file?
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#2266 [16:22] <sage> i had downloaded mine craft once and mac automatically unzipped it so i started playing. someone, justin, said he downloaded it again but this time zipped and he through it in his texture pack folder for some reason?
#2267 [16:22] <bellows> it just doesnt work
#2268 [16:22] <bellows> at all
#2269 [16:22] <bellows> doesnt load
#2270 [16:22] <bellows> doesnt turn on after logon
#2271 [16:22] <|Kiikun|> sage: he was downloading a texture pack.
#2272 [16:22] <bellows> screen just goes black
#2273 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> sage - minecraft.zip that you got from minecraft.net/download, you can delete.
#2274 [16:22] <|Kiikun|> bellows: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, Uplink OS, or XBox 360?
#2275 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> it should've installed minecraft to /applications/
#2276 [16:23] <sugoi> haah
#2277 [16:23] <sugoi> xbobx 360
#2278 [16:23] <sugoi> s/bx/x/
#2279 [16:23] <bellows> i am not sure
#2280 [16:23] * |Kiikun| likes the joke-oss
#2280 [16:23] <|Kiikun|> . . .
#2281 [16:23] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2281 [16:23] * sugoi claps for |Kiikun|
#2281 [16:23] * |Kiikun| crys
#2281 [16:23] <|Kiikun|> bellows: do you have a start button, an apple, or um... somethign else?
#2282 [16:25] <|Kiikun|> bellows: better yet.. is the clock in the bottom right corner or the top right corner?
#2283 [16:25] <sugoi> oh sneaky
#2284 [16:25] <Weu> Is there any who knows what is wrong with my minecraft server because my friend cant connect to server it says "Can't Reach Server" we open ports and try to configure server file... and nothing helps
#2285 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> "try to configure server file"?
#2286 [16:25] <sugoi> Weu: ahve you configured port forwarding?
#2287 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> What exactly did you change in the server file?
#2288 [16:26] * |Kiikun| asumes its NOT linux.
#2288 [16:26] <sugoi> Weu: ditto to GreyVulpine
#2289 [16:26] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: safe assumption
#2290 [16:26] <sage> greyvulpine yea your right it did. which is weird for me cause usually on a mac you have to manually throw it in application folder.
#2291 [16:26] <sugoi> nor an arch linux toaster
#2292 [16:27] <Weu> sugoi first i need nat or firewall i need to do that right?
#2293 [16:27] <sugoi> Weu: for your nat, you need to port foward traffic, for firewall, typically inbound 25565 is not blocked
#2294 [16:27] <|Kiikun|> Weu: tcp/25565.
#2295 [16:27] <Weu> yeah but i dont have nat
#2296 [16:28] <|Kiikun|> Weu: you have a router?
#2297 [16:28] <sugoi> Weu: you only have a static ip?
#2298 [16:28] <Weu> i dont have router too :P
#2299 [16:28] <Weu> i have static ip yea... if u mean ... same ip local and inter
#2300 [16:28] <Weu> net
#2301 [16:28] <sugoi> Weu: so, just to be clear, your machines own IP is the same you see when you hit ipchicken.com?
#2302 [16:29] <|Kiikun|> Weu: did you happen to put anything into server-ip in the server.properties?
#2303 [16:29] <Weu> yea ... there it is
#2304 [16:29] <|Kiikun|> ?? smp/server-ip
#2305 [16:29] <VoxelHead> smp/server-ip: Do not enter anything on the server-ip= line of the server.properties file. In nearly ALL cases, you want to leave it blank.
#2306 [16:30] <Omega_Guardian> last few years though the fad to be super zoomed in ruins the entire point. Can't see what is happening even
#2307 [16:30] <Weu> kiikun?
#2308 [16:30] <sugoi> Weu: read what VoxelHead said
#2309 [16:30] <|Kiikun|> Omega_Guardian: random comment?
#2310 [16:30] <Weu> k lets try that
#2311 [16:30] * |Kiikun| stops afking in his treefarm <.<
#2311 [16:31] <Omega_Guardian> doh, ok looks like it was wrong channel
#2312 [16:31] <Omega_Guardian> yep. Dunno how that happens :P I'm so tired
#2313 [16:31] <sugoi> Omega_Guardian: it's okay, i just thought it was some metaphor
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#2315 [16:33] <|Kiikun|> Weu: ready to test?
#2316 [16:33] <|Kiikun|> !check 91.156.198.109
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#2320 [16:37] <uki_ninja> why will the free version not load up - want to try before I buy
#2321 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> For classic/outdated?
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#2323 [16:37] <uki_ninja> yes
#2324 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> Using a mac?
#2325 [16:37] <uki_ninja> no
#2326 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you try to load up classic?
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#2328 [16:38] <jlsjonas> Hey, really no way to change my e-mail adress? the domain it's on is going to expire in a while & the account is filled with spam
#2329 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> There is not.
#2330 [16:38] <jlsjonas> then what to do when it's expired? 'bad luck?'
#2331 [16:38] <jlsjonas> (not needing it atm, but you never know when I'll need it)
#2332 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I don't have an answer for you. We're not Mojang here, we're just community-run support.
#2333 [16:39] <Weu> we take that server-ip away and it says again "can't reach server" any other idea
#2334 [16:39] <jlsjonas> yes, well maybe someone of mojang was here :p
#2335 [16:39] <|Kiikun|> !check 91.156.198.109
#2336 [16:39] <sugoi> jlsjonas: seems a very valid reason - i just make sure to not lose the username+password (as email is needed to look that info up)
#2337 [16:39] <|Kiikun|> Weu: try temporarily disablign any firewalls?
#2338 [16:39] <uki_ninja> tells me to contact support
#2339 [16:39] <sugoi> jlsjonas: i would just make sure to* ...
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#2341 [16:39] <|Kiikun|> Weu: oh! not you hosting it :P
#2342 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> uki_ninja - Contact support how? With what? Do you get an error message of some sort?
#2343 [16:40] <jlsjonas> any private support form? only thing I find is to report premium issues & hacked accounts
#2344 [16:40] <jlsjonas> (trough the FAQ menu's)
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#2346 [16:40] <uki_ninja> yep message says fatal error occured (1) unable to load to load logo and progree bar images
#2347 [16:40] <AfterLifeLochie> Does anyone here know if it's possible to get a copy of the clean 1.8.1 server JAR? To my knowledge, nobody seems to have it. ><
#2348 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> jlsjonas - Right now, unless you have a burning need to change your email, leave it. Mojang has plans to overhaul the account management system, inplement display names, implement account hooks into their other games..
#2349 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> AfterLifeLochier - There is not. No.
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#2351 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> uki_ninja - Ah, yes. Do you run IE on windows?
#2352 [16:41] <Weu> kiikun server work in local but not over internet
#2353 [16:41] <|Kiikun|> AfterLifeLochie: only if you saved it when ti was available. your second bets option is to get bukkit's 1,8,1 builds
#2354 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Weu - Are you running the server?
#2355 [16:41] <uki_ninja> whats IE sorry not very technical
#2356 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> uki_ninja - Internet explorer.
#2357 [16:41] <|Kiikun|> Weu: if it works local.... waaait.... then the server is behind a nat. you have to port forward.
#2358 [16:42] <AfterLifeLochie> @GreyVulpine, @Kiikun, The Technic Pack requires a Vanilla 1.8.1 server/client, and it's not compatible with Bukkit.
#2359 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> AfterLifeLochie - Nothing we can do about it.
#2360 [16:42] <sugoi> AfterLifeLochie: try asking the technic pack developers
#2361 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> AfterLifeLochie - Go yell at the modders for not updating their pack
#2362 [16:42] <Weu> there is no nat... really.. everything else working without any portforwarding .. and ip is same internet and nat
#2363 [16:42] <Weu> internet and local
#2364 [16:43] <|Kiikun|> AfterLifeLochie: its against the terms of use to redistribute the jars
#2365 [16:43] <sugoi> Weu: "everything else is working" ? all that is working is local
#2366 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Weu - But you just said, it's working locally..
#2367 [16:43] <uki_ninja> using windows vista IE
#2368 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> uki_ninja - Great. Follow these instructions: Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %temp%
#2369 [16:43] <sugoi> Weu: are you on the server in person?
#2370 [16:43] <|Kiikun|> Weu: you said local. meaning there is a way to connect to it that is NOT internet. unless you have a seprate connection just for the server...
#2371 [16:43] <AfterLifeLochie> To my knowledge, it's not against the terms to distribute the server JAR files, but that doesn't matter. I'll continue looking, thanks.
#2372 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> uki_ninja - Press enter. It should open up a temporary files folder.
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#2374 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> uki_ninja - In that folder, look for any folders named "www.minecraft.net" or "minecraft.net" and delete them. Then try minecraft again
#2375 [16:44] <sugoi> Weu: yep, with no router and static ip, there is no such thing as 'local'
#2376 [16:44] <Weu> not really i have nat.. because there is no way to get it away but friend dont have any nat in there
#2377 [16:44] <sugoi> unless you server has multiple nics...
#2378 [16:44] <sugoi> Weu: are you on the server in person?
#2379 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Wait, what?
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#2381 [16:45] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: he's not on the server because he pmed me when io checked his ip :/
#2382 [16:45] <Weu> friend keep server because there is no nat and nothing firewalls what make some problems
#2383 [16:45] <sugoi> then what is 'local' ?
#2384 [16:45] <Weu> friend get it work in local and no problem
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#2386 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Have your frend come on here, we need to know more about his system
#2387 [16:46] <|Kiikun|> Weu: do you mean he ran minecraft on the computer runnign the server?
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#2390 [16:46] <Weu> no he have other computer there
#2391 [16:46] <sugoi> no nat my ....
#2392 [16:46] <Weu> what running server
#2393 [16:46] <|Kiikun|> Weu: other computer = some sort or ROUTING going on. meaning you need to port forward
#2394 [16:47] <uki_ninja> nothing appeared in the temp folder relating to minecraft
#2395 [16:47] <jlsjonas> GreyVulpine: if they would send out a mail to all premium accounts I wouldn't even know; if I would forget/lose my password somehow, I'll be in trouble in a few months (not likely to lose/forget; but you never know)
#2396 [16:47] <blinky> Hey, my minecraft runs on the launcher but not in browser, and its less laggy in browser. Is there any way to fix it?
#2397 [16:47] <jlsjonas> counts as a good reason 2 me
#2398 [16:47] <jlsjonas> (sorry was AFK for a bit)
#2399 [16:47] <uki_ninja> text below the screen explains controls
#2400 [16:47] <sugoi> blinky: how does it run less laggy in browser, if it doesn't run at all in browser? :)
#2401 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> uki_ninja - Are you sure about that? Could you try a different browser like Firefox or Chrome?
#2402 [16:48] <blinky> fine, when it did work in the browser it was less laggy
#2403 [16:48] <sugoi> jlsjonas: we agree, but there simply is no current solution
#2404 [16:48] <blinky> and i use chrome
#2405 [16:48] <uki_ninja> too complicated have other things to do but thanks for trying
#2406 [16:48] <Weu> we got working version before no any problems... but now we cant get work this 1.0.0 ver
#2407 [16:49] <jlsjonas> boo @ mojang; maybe some tweets will catch mojang's notice
#2408 [16:49] <jlsjonas> thanks for the help ;)
#2409 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> G'luck
#2410 [16:49] <jlsjonas> ty ;)
#2411 [16:49] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: i was considering that the server has multiple nics, that one nic gets the static ip, and the 2nd nic allows coolocated machines to connect on a separate nat -- thus allowing static public ip + _and_ nat
#2412 [16:49] <Weu> if i remember right we play alot 1.4 beta or something
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#2414 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Troubleshooting systems is hard enough. Troubleshooting minecraft problems through a proxy, is asking for trouble
#2415 [16:50] <sugoi> Weu: it would help if your friend could join our chat room, we could probably learn more
#2416 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Have the person running the server come here him or herself.
#2417 [16:50] <johnii> is anyone familiar with the server message in the console that says Time Ran BAckwards?
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#2419 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> Time ran backwards?
#2420 [16:51] <Weu> sorry he cant right now..
#2421 [16:51] <sugoi> Weu: for example, how exactly did he connect locally, through a router, through an ad hoc network, how?
#2422 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> That's not a normal error message for vanilla..
#2423 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> johnii - Are you running some sort of modded server?
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#2425 [16:51] <|Kiikun|> johnii: someone used /time? or server lag... or your system time changed back...
#2426 [16:51] <Donald> Hey, would these specs support the newest (Official) version of Minecraft without lag. Intel Pentium P6200 processor 2.13GHz, 3MB Cache 4GB DDR3 SDRAM system memory 500GB SATA hard drive 17.3" CineCrystal color LCD screen Intel HD Graphics
#2427 [16:51] <sugoi> haha
#2428 [16:51] <mib_c0e3mp> my minecraft doesnt work
#2429 [16:51] <sugoi> Donald: you're still asking about what system to buy?!
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#2431 [16:51] <sugoi> Donald: are you trolling us? seriously?
#2432 [16:52] <mib_c0e3mp> when i log in the screen goes black
#2433 [16:52] <Donald> No, you must be talking about another donald.
#2434 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Donald - Does it have a dedicated graphics card other than that Intel HD graphics?
#2435 [16:52] <johnii> Kiikun & GreyVulpine that's what I was thinking. I'm not running a modded server, I got this from minecraft.net/download
#2436 [16:52] <Donald> I had no intention to troll.
#2437 [16:52] <|Kiikun|> Donald: it looks ok.
#2438 [16:52] <sugoi> two donalds, both asking about "will this system work?" ...
#2439 [16:52] <sugoi> Donald: you may not be trolling, just seems funny to me
#2440 [16:52] <|Kiikun|> johnii: did somethign change the system time to a prior time? i think thats what it means
#2441 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Intel HD graphics, while the latest, will still have a bit of trouble with minecraft.
#2442 [16:52] <johnii> the console message says "Time ran backwards! Did the system time change?"
#2443 [16:53] <Donald> Lol. But will it support the 1.00 version of Minecraft without lag.
#2444 [16:53] <|Kiikun|> daylight savings? :P
#2445 [16:53] <|Kiikun|> or dead cmos :D
#2446 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Donald - It'll run minecraft. It won't run it well
#2447 [16:53] <johnii> Kiikun the system time hasn't changed…that I know of. I set my time via the internet if that makes a diff
#2448 [16:53] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: or actual time travel lap
#2449 [16:53] <Donald> If i turn most of the video specs off/minimum?
#2450 [16:53] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: lol.
#2451 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Then sure.
#2452 [16:53] <|Kiikun|> johnii: maybe it just updated and you were a bit fast?
#2453 [16:53] <Donald> Like, will it lag.
#2454 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> The bottleneck in that system, Donald, is the Intel HD graphics. It'll lag at fancy/Far graphics
#2455 [16:54] <Omega_Guardian> Optifine when I last played helped with disabling graphics and stuff, and even at default for most greatly boosts performance
#2456 [16:54] <Donald> OK, so if i turn it down, it wont lag?
#2457 [16:54] * GreyVulpine nods
#2457 [16:54] <|Kiikun|> Donald: theres a demo. itll atleast give you an idea. thogh the games been upgraded since
#2458 [16:54] <|Kiikun|> ?? demo
#2459 [16:55] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#2460 [16:55] <Donald> Thanks man.
#2461 [16:55] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
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#2465 [16:58] <raisin> can anyone help me with a minecraft problem?
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#2467 [16:58] <|Kiikun|> mmm... raisin
#2468 [16:58] <|Kiikun|> raisin: sure. describe please?
#2469 [16:59] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: raisins? old lady? :)
#2470 [16:59] <raisin> i just bought it and i start the game and it takes me to the log in screen i log in and it loads and goes to a black screen
#2471 [16:59] <sugoi> oh, username, raisin
#2472 [16:59] <sugoi> haha
#2473 [16:59] <raisin> i have java up to date and tried some other suggestions as well
#2474 [16:59] <Donald> DSFA;LKDSFJSDFLSFDA;LKJXVKLJSRG K'JFSDA KJEWF;LKJ RTF;LKJ RGJK;L DSFLK;JDKLJFSDF
#2475 [17:00] * sugoi thought |Kiikun| was referring to #minecraft chatter
#2475 [17:00] <raisin> and no i didnt choose raisin as my name it just popped up
#2476 [17:00] * |Kiikun| rarely looks at #minecraft
#2476 [17:01] <|Kiikun|> raisin: you have java 6 u30?
#2477 [17:01] <raisin> yes i just downloaded it and reset my pc a little while ago and it still doesnt work
#2478 [17:02] <johnii> Kiikun I bet that just happens when my computer checks the internet for time and adjusts
#2479 [17:02] <johnii> I wonder if it effects the server in any real way or just for logs
#2480 [17:02] <|Kiikun|> johnii: and it adjusts backwards.
#2481 [17:02] <xales> johnii: That's some serious clock drift
#2482 [17:02] <|Kiikun|> ??> raisin forceupdate
#2483 [17:02] <xales> Unless the server is doing something more stupid than complaining because of a time change
#2484 [17:02] <VoxelHead> raisin: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2485 [17:02] <johnii> xales, well yeah, weird huh?
#2486 [17:03] <VoxelHead> raisin: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2487 [17:03] <raisin> i have tried the force update as well
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#2489 [17:03] <|Kiikun|> raisin: so it does the download without issues? tried updatign video drivers?
#2490 [17:04] <raisin> uhm i think my video drivers are up to date let me check
#2491 [17:04] <|Kiikun|> raisin: do NOT let windows update your driver for you.
#2492 [17:05] <raisin> im going through my ati catalyst controller
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#2494 [17:05] <|Kiikun|> ok good :3
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#2497 [17:06] <mib_hp70tm> hey, i got a visa gift card recently, and it wont accept my payment
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#2499 [17:06] <|Kiikun|> mib_hp70tm: giftcards cant generally be used for international payments. as mojang (makers of minecraft) are in sweeden...
#2500 [17:07] <raisin> idk if it is up to date
#2501 [17:07] <|Kiikun|> raisin: what version is it?
#2502 [17:07] <raisin> what my bios version?
#2503 [17:08] <johnii> Kiikun & xales : The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer can help improve some PC gaming video performance by compensating for those applications that bypass the Windows API for timing by directly using the RDTSC (Read Time Stamp Counter) instruction. Applications that rely on RDTSC do not benefit from the logic in the operating system to properly account for the affect of power management mechanisms on the
#2504 [17:08] <johnii> rate at which a processor core's Time Stamp Counter (TSC) is incremented. The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer helps to correct the resulting video performance effects or other incorrect timing effects that these applications may experience on dual-core processor systems, by periodically adjusting the core time-stamp-counters, so that they are synchronized.
#2505 [17:08] <|Kiikun|> raisin: no.. better yet.. what raedon card do you have?
#2506 [17:08] <johnii> seems people think that's what's hapening.
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#2508 [17:08] <|Kiikun|> johnii: ~.~ flood. BAD
#2509 [17:08] <raisin> ati mobility radeon hd 5850
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#2511 [17:08] <xales> johnii: It's possible, assuming you have a dual-core AMD CPU with that driver installed
#2512 [17:09] <|Kiikun|> raisin: catalyst for the hd 5xxx series is version 11.12
#2513 [17:09] <johnii> xales, its a quad core iMac
#2514 [17:10] <|Kiikun|> raisin: what version of windows you on? and 32 or 64 bit?
#2515 [17:10] <xales> johnii: then no
#2516 [17:10] <xales> johnii: not possible
#2517 [17:10] <raisin> 64 bit and i dont see where to look for my latest version of catalyst
#2518 [17:11] <|Kiikun|> raisin: ill just give you a link for latest catalyst... vista or win7?
#2519 [17:11] <raisin> win 7
#2520 [17:11] <|Kiikun|> derp.. same driver anyway
#2521 [17:12] <|Kiikun|> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx
#2522 [17:12] <|Kiikun|> raisin: unless you have a dell, those drivers shoudl work
#2523 [17:12] <raisin> oo wow that came out two days ago lol i dont have the newest version
#2524 [17:13] <raisin> and i do have a dell
#2525 [17:13] <|Kiikun|> if you HAVE a dell.... http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/
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#2527 [17:13] <|Kiikun|> dell lieks to make it so only drivers from them work :/
#2528 [17:13] <sugoi> |Kiikun|Janus|: i use a dell with nvidia, but always get better perf using nvidia drivers directly
#2529 [17:13] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: * ^
#2530 [17:13] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: is this amd only issue?
#2531 [17:13] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: you manually install the drivers i asume.
#2532 [17:14] <johnii> I suppose I'll just ignore it. The server is running great and has been for days.
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#2534 [17:14] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: manually? ... well i use the nvidia installer
#2535 [17:14] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: hmm... interesting. usually the installers whine and complain
#2536 [17:15] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: i'll take your word for it ... but my machines like me
#2537 [17:15] <sugoi> it's like a cat owner, the cat knows its master
#2538 [17:15] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: theyve learned not to cross you and your Screwdriver of Doom? :D
#2539 [17:15] <sugoi> i get my dell, and reinst everything, it knows its master
#2540 [17:15] <johnii> Kiikun, was it you that helped me with the water issue theother day?
#2541 [17:15] <sugoi> hehe :)
#2542 [17:15] <|Kiikun|> johnii: the glass sphere underwater?
#2543 [17:16] <johnii> Kiikun, yep! your advice was perfect. I haven't had a problem once knowing what you told me. :D
#2544 [17:16] <|Kiikun|> heh.
#2545 [17:17] <johnii> thanks for that!
#2546 [17:17] <sugoi> i'm curious, what was the issue?
#2547 [17:17] <|Kiikun|> im becoming a master of water manipulation with my skydock stuff :P
#2548 [17:17] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: he built underwater but there was still sourceblocks inside.
#2549 [17:17] <sugoi> |Kiikun|Janus|: have you seen water walls, and other mastery of water directional updating
#2550 [17:17] <raisin> the only dell driver it says i dont have is a bluetooth driver
#2551 [17:17] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: *** ... who is this janus!?
#2552 [17:17] <sugoi> it's the 1st autocompelte for me
#2553 [17:18] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: my laptop :P
#2554 [17:18] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: could he not just replace the source blocks? (manually in game with dirt, or mcedit) ?
#2555 [17:18] <sugoi> or was that the solution?
#2556 [17:18] <raisin> |Kiikun| the only dell driver it says i dont have is a bluetooth one
#2557 [17:18] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: he used dirt :P
#2558 [17:19] <|Kiikun|> raisin: then you shodul be fine driverwise.... hmmm... you have java 6 64 bit installed? or just 32bit?
#2559 [17:19] <sugoi> but have you seen those vids?
#2560 [17:19] <johnii> Kiikun, skydock?
#2561 [17:19] <raisin> |Kiikun| but the first link u sent me said their was a new update
#2562 [17:19] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: i dont think i have...
#2563 [17:19] <raisin> |Kiikun| and i have java 64 bit
#2564 [17:19] <|Kiikun|> raisin: that was from amd :P dell will take a bit to mess with them before they make them available
#2565 [17:20] <raisin> |Kiikun| ooo so i should not download it?
#2566 [17:20] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: it'll blow your mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdqAuXyLNTY&feature=related
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#2568 [17:20] <|Kiikun|> raisin: you CAN give it a shot. im just used to dells not taking other video drivers besides from dell.
#2569 [17:21] <|Kiikun|> johnii: http://www.youtube.com/user/sennyotai Skydocks broke with release. v2 is stuff im workign on now thats breakign physics :P
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#2571 [17:22] <raisin> |Kiikun| alright lol
#2572 [17:23] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: "bewt" ? are you trying to say "boat" ?
#2573 [17:24] <sugoi> canadians
#2574 [17:24] <|Kiikun|> <.<
#2575 [17:24] <joe> cant connect to server get "java.lang.nullpointer exception" updated video card and java, run winxp, need help thanks
#2576 [17:24] <|Kiikun|> i live in connecticut :P
#2577 [17:24] <sugoi> i was actually going to say, or connecticut
#2578 [17:24] <sugoi> haha
#2579 [17:24] <|Kiikun|> pbbbbbbbbbbbbt
#2580 [17:24] <|Kiikun|> atleast i dont sat 'wattah'
#2581 [17:24] <sugoi> that and....minnesotta?
#2582 [17:25] <johnii> Kiikun…wow, that's CRAZY! :D
#2583 [17:25] <sugoi> that and....minnesotta? [i think voxel muted me...]
#2584 [17:25] <sugoi> that and....minnesotta? [i think voxel muted me...]
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#2586 [17:26] * sugoi wants to make a vid of his redstone-madness...
#2586 [17:26] <raisin> Kiikun im downloading it now lol hopefully it doesnt mess up my pv
#2587 [17:26] <raisin> pc**
#2588 [17:26] <|Kiikun|> raisin: it wont messs it up. youll either be Better... or it will whine and not install
#2589 [17:27] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: my first vid was my restone madness with my staircase :P
#2590 [17:27] <raisin> raisin ooo well it installed lol
#2591 [17:27] <sugoi> i'm not doing anything like 16bit alu's, but i like 8bit ops
#2592 [17:27] <sugoi> i use them to create password protected doors and such
#2593 [17:28] <sugoi> but designs that fit in certain needs
#2594 [17:28] <raisin> Kiikun still black screen :( would this be because my windows 7 is an alienware version?
#2595 [17:30] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: thanks for the link :3 im using more sourceblock stuff than flows.. but maybe i can fix the accelerator roads...
#2596 [17:30] <|Kiikun|> raisin: ok... new idea. try this
#2597 [17:30] <|Kiikun|> :ts/bat
#2598 [17:30] <WugBot> ts/bat: Could you please run minecraft using these instructions, it'll run minecraft in a command prompt window. Any errors will pop up there, please share them with us when you see them. http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh (Thanks GreyVulpine!)
#2599 [17:31] <raisin> |Kiikun| how do i do that lol
#2600 [17:31] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: i think understanding those dynamics at that level could be quite advantageous for the type of builds you do
#2601 [17:31] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: the shortflows coudl make the bottoms of my roads flatter.. but my isolator still needs its pit.
#2602 [17:32] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: sorry, that sounds like i'm not respecting what you have done, you've done awesome work. what i mean is - it seemed related a little and thought you might find something new
#2603 [17:32] <|Kiikun|> raisin: open the pastebin link and follow the directions
#2604 [17:34] <raisin> i went to the link an dit says to install it to my desktop and when i try it takes me straight to the launcher
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#2608 [17:36] <mib_qnvtth> i click to start minecraft up but it dousnt load anyone know how to solve this ?
#2609 [17:36] <|Kiikun|> raisin: you download the launcher jar, make a batfile that launches minecraft with minor amount of memory, and all crash output goes to console.. we WANT the crash output
#2610 [17:36] <|Kiikun|> mib_qnvtth: updated java? and using java 6?
#2611 [17:37] <mib_qnvtth> i am using java 6 :/
#2612 [17:37] <|Kiikun|> mib_qnvtth: did you mod the game at all?
#2613 [17:38] <mib_qnvtth> no i just got it today
#2614 [17:38] <raisin> Kiikun well idk how to do that lmfao
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#2617 [17:38] <|Kiikun|> ok... easier way!
#2618 [17:38] <minecraft_guest42872> okay
#2619 [17:39] <|Kiikun|> :ts/launcher > raisin
#2620 [17:39] <WugBot> raisin: (ts/launcher) Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#2621 [17:39] <WugBot> raisin: (ts/launcher) Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#2622 [17:39] <sprog> how do i make my minecraft not lagg
#2623 [17:39] <westmi> get a better pc?
#2624 [17:39] <sprog> when im playng it
#2625 [17:39] <raisin> ok i clicked it and it took me to the log in screen
#2626 [17:40] <sprog> so
#2627 [17:40] <|Kiikun|> raisin: just go through and try to play.
#2628 [17:40] <sprog> plezz help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2629 [17:40] <raisin> ok it went to a black screen
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#2631 [17:42] <raisin> what do i do now
#2632 [17:42] <|Kiikun|> raisin: ok you can close it now and look for the minecraft.log file. open it and paste its contents onto www.pastebin.com, then give us the address it sends you to
#2633 [17:42] <sprog> how do i make minecraft not lagg when im playing it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2634 [17:43] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: it's getting a little noisey
#2635 [17:43] <|Kiikun|> sprog: lower graphic settings. using optifine. NOT having an intel video card.
#2636 [17:43] <sugoi> sprog: please chill on the flood
#2637 [17:43] <|Kiikun|> sprog: and next tiome you do that im kickign you
#2638 [17:43] <sprog> no plezz no
#2639 [17:44] * sugoi didn't realize +'s can kick
#2639 [17:44] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: we cant directly :P but bots are just SO useful!
#2640 [17:44] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: ah
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#2642 [17:45] <|Kiikun|> sprog: also, smaller window (dont fullscreen it), run less programs in the background.... um...
#2643 [17:46] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: wha? um, that has not been my experience
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#2645 [17:46] <sprog> ok thanks yo peace
#2646 [17:46] <sugoi> fullscreen reduces events from/to other apps, giving more throughput to your gpu
#2647 [17:46] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: maybe... but i just max my window :P
#2648 [17:47] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: fullscreen should be best perf option
#2649 [17:47] <sugoi> vs max window size
#2650 [17:47] <sugoi> ka'chsshhhh <- dew
#2651 [17:48] <sugoi> aahh...so cold
#2652 [17:52] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: ok if i TRUST frap's fps meter... i get 60-200 fps fullscreen.....
#2653 [17:52] <sugoi> vs?
#2654 [17:52] <sugoi> 200, nice :)
#2655 [17:52] <sugoi> i've not checked on my 'nice' machine
#2656 [17:52] <|Kiikun|> vs... its nolongershowingupinwindow x.x
#2657 [17:53] <sugoi> haha
#2658 [17:53] <sugoi> LEVENDIZ: you still here?
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#2660 [17:54] <jacobniemann> hello
#2661 [17:54] <sugoi> jacobniemann: HELLO
#2662 [17:54] * sugoi just guzzled 1/2 a super cold dew
#2662 [17:54] <jacobniemann> I'm having trouble with the premium account
#2663 [17:54] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: about the same windowd...
#2664 [17:54] <|Kiikun|> note that i dualmonitor.
#2665 [17:55] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: well at near 200, can you really ask for more?
#2666 [17:55] * |Kiikun| doesnt :P
#2666 [17:55] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: with per a non issue in your case, esp w/ 2 monitors, i'd suggest windowed
#2667 [17:55] <sugoi> with perf*
#2668 [17:56] <|Kiikun|> windowd means i can smack people.. i meand help people and play at the same time :P
#2669 [17:56] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: but at any rate, in my graphics programming exp. apps are going to get more fps with fullscreen
#2670 [17:56] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: the os gives better locks
#2671 [17:56] <sugoi> jacobniemann: what trouble?
#2672 [17:56] <sugoi> Wug: how's the RAM?!
#2673 [17:57] <jacobniemann> I bought the game yesterday but my first credit card didn't work with it so i changed it. But then it said that I need to wait 24 hours before using it again. But at the same time it said I successfully bought the game. It has been almost 24 hours since this happened and I don't know if I do it again it will charge me extra
#2674 [17:57] <sugoi> jacobniemann: you changed it, what do you mean by that?
#2675 [17:58] <jacobniemann> I changed the credit card since the first one wasn't working I guess it thought I was a fraud
#2676 [17:58] <sugoi> jacobniemann: by the way, keep in mind this is an international purchase (Sweden)
#2677 [17:58] <jacobniemann> that's true
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#2679 [17:58] <jacobniemann> that's probably why the first credit card didn't work
#2680 [17:58] <sugoi> jacobniemann: so minecraft.net didn't like that you tried to buy twice?
#2681 [17:58] <sugoi> were you using the same email address?
#2682 [17:58] <jacobniemann> yes
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#2684 [17:59] <sugoi> jacobniemann: the successful may have only meant that the credit card code passed some checks, but the money wasn't actually received
#2685 [17:59] <sugoi> jacobniemann: i would call your bank, and see if the payment was transfered
#2686 [17:59] <jacobniemann> k
#2687 [17:59] <sugoi> jacobniemann: you didn't cancel the first one, right?
#2688 [17:59] <jacobniemann> No
#2689 [18:00] <sugoi> jacobniemann: so you didn't really 'change' anything, but actually tried a 2nd time?
#2690 [18:00] <jacobniemann> No, i used a different credit card
#2691 [18:00] <sugoi> jacobniemann: what told y ou that the first attempt "didn't work" ?
#2692 [18:00] <sugoi> your bank? or minecraft.net ?
#2693 [18:00] <jacobniemann> minecraft.net wouldn't accept it for some reason
#2694 [18:01] <sugoi> jacobniemann: so you got an error message on minecraft.net payment page
#2695 [18:01] <sugoi> jacobniemann: on the 1st card
#2696 [18:01] <jacobniemann> yes
#2697 [18:01] <sugoi> hmm, that is different than i thought
#2698 [18:01] <Wug> sugoi: well
#2699 [18:01] <sugoi> is it a prepaid card?
#2700 [18:01] <sugoi> jacobniemann: still make sure no money was taken, most likely none was taken
#2701 [18:02] <Wug> the overclock settings I had weren't stable with 3 more dimms
#2702 [18:02] <jacobniemann> Then I tried a different card and it allowed me but by then I had actually made several attempts on the first card. I guess if you try 5 times it locks you out for 24 hours
#2703 [18:02] <Wug> so I had to downclock it a little, and then go to class and stop playing with it
#2704 [18:02] <jacobniemann> It wasn't pre-paid
#2705 [18:02] <sugoi> Wug: did you call the ram manfacturors? i found kingston to be awesome
#2706 [18:03] <sugoi> Wug: they were able to give me some voltage (undocumented) settings from bios that allowed an atypical setup
#2707 [18:03] <sugoi> jacobniemann: if you can use paypal, i recommend that
#2708 [18:03] <jacobniemann> I think it only works in euros
#2709 [18:04] <Wug> sugoi: they are gskill
#2710 [18:04] <sugoi> jacobniemann: mmk, so to answer your question, i highly doubt the first one will be charged, call bank to be sure, and try the 2nd card whenever you can (but i recommend paypal)
#2711 [18:04] <sugoi> jacobniemann: for now tho, we can check if your user was made, (which i doubt, but it's fun to check)
#2712 [18:04] <sugoi> jacobniemann: what user name did you choose?
#2713 [18:04] <jacobniemann> NiemannXX
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#2715 [18:04] <sugoi> !paid NiemannXX
#2716 [18:04] <jacobniemann> I made the account it's just not premium
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#2719 [18:05] <sugoi> jacobniemann: so anyways, good luck, confirm card #1 was not charge, and try paypal or card #2
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#2721 [18:05] <jacobniemann> BTW, I was still able to play the game without a premium account so what's the difference besides multiplayer and character skin
#2722 [18:05] <sugoi> jacobniemann: paypal is best
#2723 [18:06] <sugoi> [anyone?] was he using classic in-browser?
#2724 [18:06] <jacobniemann> no, using the download version
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#2726 [18:06] <|Kiikun|> jacobniemann: whats your minecratf username?
#2727 [18:07] <jacobniemann> NiemannXX
#2728 [18:07] <sugoi> NiemannXX
#2729 [18:07] <|Kiikun|> oh wait.. you did that already
#2730 [18:07] <sugoi> :)
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#2732 [18:07] <|Kiikun|> jacobniemann: are you claying classic? there is no official download client for Classic.
#2733 [18:08] <|Kiikun|> thought world of minecraft has made one.
#2734 [18:08] <jacobniemann> no using the official client for Minecraft
#2735 [18:08] <jacobniemann> the one from here http://www.minecraft.net/download
#2736 [18:08] <|Kiikun|> jacobniemann: so.. your playign 1.0.0? without paying?
#2737 [18:08] <jacobniemann> yeah, the multiplayer doesn't work though
#2738 [18:08] * Kealper coughs
#2738 [18:08] <|Kiikun|> jacobniemann: because you pirated the game
#2739 [18:09] <jacobniemann> no
#2740 [18:09] <sugoi> haha
#2741 [18:09] <|Kiikun|> yes.
#2742 [18:09] <|Kiikun|> go buy it.
#2743 [18:09] <jacobniemann> it's a legitimate copy
#2744 [18:09] <|Kiikun|> then you can change skins and play multiplayer
#2745 [18:09] <jacobniemann> nop
#2746 [18:09] <jacobniemann> no
#2747 [18:09] <jacobniemann> that's the only thing I can't do
#2748 [18:10] <|Kiikun|> jacobniemann: yes. you have a pirate copy. you never log in, you click 'play offline' dont you.
#2749 [18:10] <langkid1> jacobniemann, you pirated it, or a friend gave it to you
#2750 [18:10] <jacobniemann> Make an account yourselves, it just gives a message saying this account isn't premium, but let's you play single player
#2751 [18:10] <langkid1> jacobniemann, yes, that's pirating
#2752 [18:10] <langkid1> do other people that have bought Minecraft play on that PC?
#2753 [18:10] <jacobniemann> that's probably why
#2754 [18:10] <langkid1> yeah
#2755 [18:11] <jacobniemann> My friend came over and let me play it on ther
#2756 [18:11] <jacobniemann> e
#2757 [18:11] <langkid1> yes that's it
#2758 [18:11] <jacobniemann> So somehow, it lets me do that
#2759 [18:11] <langkid1> see, that PC was already "activated" to play MC
#2760 [18:11] <|Kiikun|> jacobniemann: yeah. thats whats going on. you need to buy the game to play it. your technicly pirating right now
#2761 [18:11] <langkid1> so therefore it would trust any login :)
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#2763 [18:11] <Kealper> langkid1: that was a really bad explanation of that :/
#2764 [18:11] <jacobniemann> OK
#2765 [18:11] <langkid1> and pirating is NOT condoned
#2766 [18:11] <sugoi> haha
#2767 [18:11] <langkid1> Kealper, I know,
#2768 [18:12] <Poketoa> >
#2769 [18:12] <Poketoa> ?*
#2770 [18:12] <sugoi> jacobniemann: minecraft is awesome because it lets us play freely....no drm to make it easier to play and use
#2771 [18:12] <jacobniemann> Well I was trying it out on that account and then I decided I wanted to buy the game anyways, I'll buy the game in an hour when my 24 hours are finished
#2772 [18:12] <Poketoa> What does that mean
#2773 [18:12] <jacobniemann> k
#2774 [18:12] <langkid1> jacobniemann, 24hrs? There isn't any Minecraft demo =\
#2775 [18:12] <Kealper> langkid1: there is
#2776 [18:13] <jacobniemann> No
#2777 [18:13] <|Kiikun|> langkid1: he means the lockout
#2778 [18:13] <|Kiikun|> from moneybookers
#2779 [18:13] <langkid1> Poketoa, it means you need to go to http://wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC
#2780 [18:13] <langkid1> ah
#2781 [18:13] <langkid1> Kealper, ik, but that's like a Alpha demo
#2782 [18:13] <jacobniemann> My account is locked up for credit cards till 7:00 PM
#2783 [18:13] <jacobniemann> EST
#2784 [18:13] <Kealper> langkid1: it's like Beta 1.5 or something, not sure on the exact version
#2785 [18:13] <langkid1> really?
#2786 [18:13] <Kealper> indeed
#2787 [18:13] <langkid1> 'cuz the demo I used looked all alphay
#2788 [18:14] <Poketoa> Ah. Well I feel stupid now. (Pretty new to irc at all lol)
#2789 [18:14] <Kealper> Minecraft didn't start looking the way it does now until around 1.8
#2790 [18:14] <langkid1> Kealper, I know, I"ve been playing since 1.3
#2791 [18:14] <langkid1> beta
#2792 [18:14] <langkid1> I just know that alpha has those weird really bright block textures
#2793 [18:14] <Boreeas> Been playing since about 3 days after beta came out :P
#2794 [18:14] <Poketoa> I was about to ask about 1.0... Does hiding doors behind paintings still work?
#2795 [18:15] <langkid1> Poketoa, try it :)
#2796 [18:15] <sugoi> i've been playing since about...3 weeks ago
#2797 [18:15] <sugoi> yay!
#2798 [18:15] <Poketoa> I'm going to assume that means yes
#2799 [18:15] <Kealper> Boreeas: youngins D:
#2800 [18:15] <|Kiikun|> Poketoa: i think that was 'fixed' in 1.8
#2801 [18:15] <sugoi> oh i knew of mc for a long time, but wasn't convinced i'd like it
#2802 [18:15] * sugoi was wrong
#2802 [18:16] <Poketoa> Ah
#2803 [18:16] <Poketoa> :/
#2804 [18:16] <|Kiikun|> i dont think signs work either :/
#2805 [18:16] <|Kiikun|> Poketoa: you can always try! :D
#2806 [18:16] <|Kiikun|> or place a painting and see if removing a block behind it makes the whole thing pop
#2807 [18:17] <langkid1> Cthulhu: 'Mwahahahah! Foolish narrator! While you were busy explaining the situation to the player, I was eavesdropping! Now, I too know the way to regain my power!'
#2808 [18:17] <langkid1> Narrator: 'Whoops!'
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#2810 [18:18] <mib_o3y6x5> hey everytime i try to launch Minecraft it says Minecraft Server not on
#2811 [18:18] <|Kiikun|> mib_o3y6x5: you trying to connect to a server?
#2812 [18:18] <langkid1> mib_o3y6x5, make sure your antivirus is allowing Minecraft to connect to the internet
#2813 [18:19] <Boreeas> Kealper: What does that even mean?
#2814 [18:19] <mib_o3y6x5> nope , its on the luancn login/password i do that right then it says minecraft sersver not on
#2815 [18:19] <langkid1> mib_o3y6x5, make sure your antivirus is allowing Minecraft to connect to the internet
#2816 [18:19] <langkid1> mib_o3y6x5, make sure your antivirus is allowing Minecraft to connect to the internet
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#2820 [18:20] <Kealper> Boreeas: only playing since beta started :P
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#2822 [18:20] <Boreeas> Kealper: Dammit, I missed the date by 3 days only :(
#2823 [18:21] <mib_o3y6x5> nope its not on anti-vitus
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#2825 [18:21] <langkid1> mib_o3y6x5, what anti-virus do you use?
#2826 [18:22] <|Kiikun|> mib_o3y6x5: firewall too.
#2827 [18:22] <|Kiikun|> mib_o3y6x5:... actually better yet... does this link say 'bad login' to you?
#2828 [18:22] <mib_o3y6x5> Kashperski Internet Security
#2829 [18:22] <|Kiikun|> ?? login
#2830 [18:22] <VoxelHead> login: http://session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Meep&sessionId=test&serverId=test
#2831 [18:22] <langkid1> o.o
#2832 [18:22] <|Kiikun|> :login
#2833 [18:22] <langkid1> yeah
#2834 [18:22] <WugBot> login: login servers are currently DOWN, try again in a few hours.
#2835 [18:22] <VoxelHead> login: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#2836 [18:22] <|Kiikun|> ...
#2837 [18:22] <langkid1> you're prolly using mibbit 'cuz you don't speak english :(
#2838 [18:22] * |Kiikun| STABS understudy!
#2838 [18:23] * langkid1 gets mad
#2838 [18:23] * langkid1 pokes jeb
#2838 [18:23] <Kealper> langkid1: actually they're probably using mibbit beacuse that's what minecraft.net tells them to use
#2839 [18:23] * |Kiikun| sits langkid1 in the timeout corner
#2839 [18:23] <langkid1> damn
#2840 [18:23] * langkid1 pokes jeb again
#2840 [18:23] <sugoi> langkid1: come on :)
#2841 [18:24] <Boreeas> >langkid1 has left irc.esper.net (QUIT: Ping timeout)
#2842 [18:24] <Kealper> lol.....
#2843 [18:24] <langkid1> 0.o
#2844 [18:24] * ShaRose points out the fact that jerb is asleep to langkid1, advises him to not be a twat
#2844 [18:24] <mib_o3y6x5> someoneby asnwer me my minecraft won't let me past the login/pasword
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#2846 [18:24] <sugoi> Kealper: actually, the irc:// is handled by some browsers with the mibbit protocol now (i know FF does this)
#2847 [18:24] <langkid1> ShaRose, no duh, that's why I'm allowed to say jeb
#2848 [18:24] <langkid1> mib_o3y6x5, did you look at your firewall and anti-virus?
#2849 [18:25] <ShaRose> I say jerb out of habit
#2850 [18:25] <Boreeas> jerb derp
#2851 [18:25] <Kealper> sugoi: but the support page on minecraft.net gives them a mibbit link that takes them here
#2852 [18:25] <langkid1> sugoi, that's why we have to slap jeb about it
#2853 [18:25] <langkid1> without actually pinging him
#2854 [18:25] <Kealper> jerb doesn't manage the website
#2855 [18:25] <ShaRose> he doesn't know. He is sleeping.
#2856 [18:25] <ShaRose> And what Kealper said.
#2857 [18:25] <Kealper> mollstam manages the website
#2858 [18:26] <Boreeas> ^
#2859 [18:26] <ShaRose> ^
#2860 [18:26] <Boreeas> Also, the derpy login servers
#2861 [18:26] <sugoi> the html code is: <a href="irc://irc.esper.net/minecraft/">#minecraft on irc.esper.net</a>
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#2863 [18:26] <Kealper> !login
#2864 [18:26] <sugoi> that is direct from minecraft supprt
#2865 [18:26] <Kealper> that was painfully slow
#2866 [18:26] <sugoi> no mibbit
#2867 [18:26] <langkid1> Kealper, well, tweet something to mollstammer then
#2868 [18:26] <langkid1> jeb y u no reply to my CTCP D:
#2869 [18:26] <Boreeas> sugoi: Mine automatically redirects me to chatzilla :P
#2870 [18:27] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: try the support page.. not the comunity page
#2871 [18:27] <sugoi> Boreeas: what browser?
#2872 [18:27] * Boreeas kicks langkid1
#2872 [18:27] <langkid1> mine opens up XCHAT 'cuz I'm not from china
#2873 [18:27] <Boreeas> sugoi: FF
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#2875 [18:27] <Boreeas> <.<
#2876 [18:27] <Boreeas> >.>
#2877 [18:27] <Kealper> langkid1: simmer down, please
#2878 [18:27] <ShaRose> langkid1 y u dumb and ignoring the fact that he can't respond because he's sleeping
#2879 [18:27] <langkid1> ShaRose, ...
#2880 [18:27] <sugoi> Kealper: aah....ok, mibbit
#2881 [18:27] <Kealper> sugoi: i was unaware they changed it, it used to be a direct mibbit link
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#2883 [18:27] <sugoi> Kealper: well it's still mibbit on the support page
#2884 [18:28] <ShaRose> ignoring the fact you are ping the WRONG GUY
#2885 [18:28] <Kealper> oh, well then
#2886 [18:28] <ShaRose> pinging*
#2887 [18:28] <langkid1> ShaRose, you think I don't know? Why else would I say 'jeb'
#2888 [18:28] <Boreeas> ;kick langkid1 Son, I am disappoint.
#2889 [18:28] * WugBot kicked langkid1 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: angkid1 :Son, I am disappoint.)
#2890 [18:28] * |Kiikun| still thinks all links shoudl be to www.minecraft/support/chat :P
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#2891 [18:28] <Kealper> i was just about to say last warning, but that works lol
#2892 [18:28] <langkid1> o.o
#2893 [18:29] <Boreeas> langkid1: Small difference between being funny and being annoying ;)
#2894 [18:29] <langkid1> Boreeas, I'm detaching, gbay
#2895 [18:29] <langkid1> Boreeas, I'm detaching, gbye*
#2896 [18:29] <sugoi> Boreeas: not that small, really
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#2898 [18:30] <Choroid> Hey
#2899 [18:30] <|Kiikun|> narf
#2900 [18:30] <Choroid> I'm having an issue with a TON of chickens on our server
#2901 [18:31] <Choroid> Is there any way I can kill them quickly and easily?
#2902 [18:31] <Boreeas> Choroid: If you have bukkit, get worldedit -> /butcher
#2903 [18:31] <|Kiikun|> Choroid: someone feeding them lots of wheat? or just tossing eggs whilly nilly?
#2904 [18:31] <|Kiikun|> Choroid: lava :D
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#2906 [18:31] <Choroid> Hah! I've used lava in some places
#2907 [18:31] <Kealper> but lava sucks to clean up
#2908 [18:31] <Choroid> My brothers got on the server and threw like a billion eggs
#2909 [18:31] <Choroid> I'd given them creative
#2910 [18:31] <Choroid> so they got in a friends house and griefed it with chickens
#2911 [18:31] <Kealper> i've got it... we all join Choroid's server and we get diamond swords and just start smacking them! D:
#2912 [18:32] <sugoi> Choroid: i'd use mcedit
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#2915 [18:34] <sugoi> what happened there?
#2916 [18:34] <Choroid> I think I'm gonna use worldedit
#2917 [18:34] <Choroid> but if that fails I'll try mcedit
#2918 [18:34] <|Kiikun|> Choroid: worldedit shoudl do it to all loaded chunks.
#2919 [18:35] <sugoi> Choroid: i would use mcedit bc i like mcedit :)
#2920 [18:35] <Choroid> I've never used mcedit
#2921 [18:35] <Choroid> and it sounds cool
#2922 [18:35] <sugoi> well i'm just saying i'm biased :)
#2923 [18:35] <sugoi> worldedit experience: 0
#2924 [18:35] <Choroid> but I'd have to use PSFTP and get the file first lol
#2925 [18:35] <sugoi> mcedit experience: >0
#2926 [18:35] <Choroid> Over 9000?
#2927 [18:35] <sugoi> haha
#2928 [18:35] <sugoi> yeah
#2929 [18:36] <Choroid> I can say I'm not a fan of how worldedit is in a .zip though
#2930 [18:36] <Choroid> I prefer just a .jar to a .zip
#2931 [18:36] * |Kiikun| is wondering if this looks as bad as he thinks it does :/ http://i.imgur.com/9cNSq.png
#2931 [18:37] <|Kiikun|> jar = zip :P
#2932 [18:37] <Choroid> But you have to install unzip on linux
#2933 [18:37] <Choroid> then type unzip (zip name here)
#2934 [18:37] <Choroid> It is two extra steps!
#2935 [18:37] <Choroid> lol
#2936 [18:37] <Kealper> what distro are you using? :/
#2937 [18:37] <Choroid> Ubuntu server
#2938 [18:38] <|Kiikun|> :P
#2939 [18:38] <Choroid> I use Windows 7 normally
#2940 [18:38] <Choroid> but my Bukkit etc. is on Ubuntu lol.
#2941 [18:39] * sugoi wonders if ppl that say 'lol' at every </p> are really laughing that much.... or just calling for attention
#2941 [18:41] <gPad2002> lol
#2942 [18:41] <sugoi> :)
#2943 [18:41] <|Kiikun|> lol
#2944 [18:41] <sugoi> butt munches, all of you
#2945 [18:42] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: sorry that was to op/voice notices :P
#2946 [18:42] <Kealper> sugoi: generally if i say "lol" it means i gave a bit of a chuckle or humorous snort, if i say LOL it means i actually did audiably laugh
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#2948 [18:42] <sugoi> :)
#2949 [18:42] <Choroid> hmm.
#2950 [18:42] <Boreeas> LOLROFLMAO!!!!111oneoneeleven
#2951 [18:42] <Kealper> ^
#2952 [18:42] <sugoi> haha
#2953 [18:42] <Choroid> Typing butcher seems to only kill agressive mobs
#2954 [18:43] <sugoi> Choroid: you have to piss off the chickens first </joking>
#2955 [18:43] <Kealper> i still say we should just all get on there and kill chickens with swords :o
#2956 [18:43] <Boreeas> ^
#2957 [18:43] <Omega_Guardian> Link warns about harrassing the chickies
#2958 [18:44] <Kealper> Omega_Guardian: those damn cucoos
#2959 [18:44] <Omega_Guardian> they call in the chicken aramada, invincible
#2960 [18:44] <Kealper> so anywho
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#2962 [18:44] <Kealper> this saturday
#2963 [18:45] <Kealper> i get to go see Trans-Siberian Orchestra in concert \o/
#2964 [18:45] <Boreeas> :O
#2965 [18:45] <Boreeas> Damn you
#2966 [18:45] <Choroid> I think I'm gonna try MCEdit now
#2967 [18:45] <Choroid> if that fails, you're all invited
#2968 [18:45] <Kealper> lol
#2969 [18:45] <sugoi> haha
#2970 [18:46] <sugoi> Choroid: 'fly' to the area with the chickens, select the area (you can pull the selection box to grow/shrink it)
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#2972 [18:46] <sugoi> Choroid: then, delete entities
#2973 [18:48] <sugoi> gentlemen - is there a mod i can use to show me the world in real time....as an admin would see things
#2974 [18:48] <sugoi> perhaps, an invisible login - flying and such?
#2975 [18:48] <sugoi> or similar
#2976 [18:48] <Kealper> sugoi: i believe there is a bukkit mod that lets admins go invisible, and then you can just set yourself to creative to check up on people
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#2978 [18:49] <sugoi> Kealper: will look into that. how to 'set myself to creatibve' tho?
#2979 [18:49] <sugoi> another mod? bukkit command line?
#2980 [18:49] <Kealper> sugoi: /gamemode username 1
#2981 [18:49] <sugoi> ah
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#2983 [18:49] <Kealper> and then /gamemode username 0 to get back to survival
#2984 [18:49] <sugoi> Kealper: that'll do, that'll do
#2985 [18:49] <Boreeas> ./gamemode username -1 to make minecraft cry
#2986 [18:50] <sugoi> haha
#2987 [18:50] <Kealper> Boreeas: i'm intrigued :o
#2988 [18:50] <sugoi> ./gamemode username 1/0
#2989 [18:50] <Kealper> /typing a / as the first char ftw
#2990 [18:50] <sugoi> loser
#2991 [18:50] <Boreeas> ./gamemode username <an insanely large number bigger than 2^31-1>
#2992 [18:50] <Kealper> /jealous \o/
#2993 [18:50] <|Kiikun|> /? / is easy.. and im not even using /say before it!!!
#2994 [18:51] <Kealper> ^
#2995 [18:51] * sugoi fails
#2995 [18:51] <Boreeas> Kealper: Don't be hating that my ALT+0172 doesn't work
#2996 [18:51] <Kealper> it isn't that either
#2997 [18:51] <|Kiikun|> ¬.¬
#2998 [18:51] <Boreeas> Well, gee, my client doesn
#2999 [18:51] <Kealper> SPOILER ALERT:
#3000 [18:51] <Boreeas> tknwow //
#3001 [18:51] <Kealper> almost all clients do // or / /
#3002 [18:51] <Kealper> if one doesn't work, the other probably will, irssi's is / /
#3003 [18:52] <sugoi> ah, coursed irssi
#3004 [18:52] <sugoi> /ahha!
#3005 [18:52] * sugoi smiles
#3005 [18:52] <Kealper> lol
#3006 [18:52] <Boreeas> 00:52] [ERROR] The command “/test” is not known to the server.
#3007 [18:52] * sugoi hugs Kealper
#3007 [18:52] <Boreeas> [00:51] [ERROR] The command “//test” is not known to the server.
#3008 [18:52] <Kealper> Boreeas: what client are you using :|
#3009 [18:53] <Boreeas> Kealper: This may or may not be the correct answer
#3010 [18:53] <Boreeas> <.<
#3011 [18:53] <Boreeas> >.>
#3012 [18:53] <Kealper> lol
#3013 [18:53] <Boreeas> Chatzilla
#3014 [18:53] <Kealper> oh :/
#3015 [18:53] * Boreeas kicks vox
#3015 [18:53] <Kealper> yay, my paypal account is limited... awesome ._.
#3016 [18:54] <Choroid> What are all these red things?
#3017 [18:54] * Boreeas doesn't have paypay
#3017 [18:54] <sprog> ??
#3018 [18:54] <sprog> who are you people
#3019 [18:54] <Kealper> sprog: people
#3020 [18:54] <sugoi> Choroid: red is...
#3021 [18:54] <Kealper> Choroid: iirc red is entities
#3022 [18:54] <sugoi> Choroid: animals and such i think
#3023 [18:55] <sugoi> Kealper: i think so
#3024 [18:55] <Kealper> so... probably chickens lol
#3025 [18:55] <sprog> what the lump is this!!
#3026 [18:55] <sugoi> Choroid: yeah, prolly the chickens
#3027 [18:55] <Kealper> that was... random
#3028 [18:55] <sugoi> Kealper: 'red things' or /ranks
#3029 [18:55] <sugoi> :)
#3030 [18:55] <Kealper> sprog was
#3031 [18:55] <Boreeas> wat
#3032 [18:56] <sugoi> oh that
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#3034 [18:56] <sugoi> Kealper: well there are red and yellow, atm i can't remember what they are
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#3036 [18:56] <sugoi> Choroid: but if you find the house of cuco horror, it'll be filled one some color
#3037 [18:56] <sugoi> Choroid: just select that area, and delete entities
#3038 [18:57] <Choroid> God, this is so confusing
#3039 [18:57] <Choroid> lol
#3040 [18:58] <sugoi> HAHA
#3041 [18:58] <Wug> >.>
#3042 [18:58] <Wug> oops
#3043 [18:59] <Boreeas> ??
#3044 [18:59] <Wug> I accidentally the bot
#3045 [18:59] <Kealper> the whole bot?
#3046 [18:59] <Kealper> lol
#3047 [18:59] <Boreeas> I also don't see quits, joins and nick changes, did I mention that?
#3048 [18:59] <Kealper> speaking of accidentallying a bot, i need to finish some updates to aubot's core
#3049 [18:59] <Kealper> Boreeas: why block those :o
#3050 [19:00] <Boreeas> Kealper: Rename every file to derp
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#3052 [19:00] <Kealper> they are helpful in a not-very-fast-paced channel lol
#3053 [19:00] <sugoi> hi WugBot
#3054 [19:00] <Boreeas> Kealper: I don't, my client does <.<
#3055 [19:00] <Wug> <.<
#3056 [19:00] <Wug> :test
#3057 [19:00] <Boreeas> Kealper: For every channel > 100 members
#3058 [19:00] <Wug> wugbot is in OHGODSOMANYMESSAGES mode
#3059 [19:00] <Kealper> Boreeas: oh... chatzilla sounds.... not good :/
#3060 [19:00] <sugoi> haha
#3061 [19:00] <Wug> WugBot: ping
#3062 [19:00] <WugBot> Wug: ping
#3063 [19:00] <Wug> ok, its back alive.
#3064 [19:00] <Boreeas> Kealper: It got a pretty GUI though <.<
#3065 [19:01] <Wug> ;tell #kryptiox Whoops. sorry about that
#3066 [19:01] <Wug> Kealper: hey
#3067 [19:01] <Boreeas> I actually found it a lot more intuitive than XChat or irssi
#3068 [19:01] <Omega_Guardian> I dunno if there is any security issues with it
#3069 [19:01] <Wug> if someone asks someones username and they respond with one word
#3070 [19:01] <Wug> can you make aubot auto !paid them
#3071 [19:02] <Kealper> uhh... i could, but i don't really want to, it has too much of a chance for false positives
#3072 [19:03] <Wug> Kealper: a little. can you do it experimentally?
#3073 [19:03] <Wug> we'll test it somewhere else
#3074 [19:03] <Kealper> i guess
#3075 [19:03] <Boreeas> Kealper: if (length == 1 && waitingForAnswers[username]) !paid
#3076 [19:03] <Kealper> lemme whip something up, we can give it a try in mch.br
#3077 [19:04] <Kealper> that code snippet broke my brain
#3078 [19:04] <Boreeas> where waitingForAnswers[username] is true if a person said <username>: <something about minecraft username> before
#3079 [19:05] <Kealper> no i mean that syntax of that, it's ugleh D:
#3080 [19:06] <|Kiikun|> yes... looks like mirc script :P
#3081 [19:06] <|Kiikun|> cept im in the habbit of {}int the neds of my ifs even singlelined.
#3082 [19:07] <|Kiikun|> such as..... if ($1 == $null) { nick $gettok(%nicks,$rand(1,$numtok(%nicks,44)),44) }
#3083 [19:08] <Choroid> Wtc
#3084 [19:08] <Choroid> Why can't I put the folder there
#3085 [19:08] <Choroid> GAY
#3086 [19:09] <|Kiikun|> Choroid: not a good idea to say things are gay :P
#3087 [19:10] <Choroid> Blah.
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#3089 [19:10] <Choroid> This is making me angry
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#3091 [19:17] <Choroid> Okay, psftp should work now
#3092 [19:17] <Choroid> I hope the chickens are gone!
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#3096 [19:23] <Choroid> Anybody want to get on and help me check?
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#3100 [19:31] <evilelmo> is this the minecraft help channel?
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#3102 [19:31] <evilelmo> is anyone here?
#3103 [19:32] <JohnEBH> Just ask, someone's bound to answer
#3104 [19:32] <evilelmo> okay, thank you
#3105 [19:33] <evilelmo> When i try to run minecraft after a few seconds my screen turns brown like the dirt blocks, then black and all I can do is exit
#3106 [19:33] <evilelmo> I bought the game today and have a total playing time of less than 5 minutes
#3107 [19:33] <JohnEBH> Try a force update
#3108 [19:33] <evilelmo> I googled everything I could think off, but there re no updates for my drivers, allocating more ram doesn't help, reinstalled twice, force updated like 5 times
#3109 [19:34] <JohnEBH> I wanna see your specs
#3110 [19:34] <JohnEBH> ??> evilelmo win/dxdiag
#3111 [19:34] <VoxelHead> evilelmo: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3112 [19:34] <VoxelHead> evilelmo: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3113 [19:34] <JohnEBH> Took me a couple seconds to remember that ><
#3114 [19:35] <evilelmo> wait what?
#3115 [19:35] <evilelmo> sorry I was typing them out
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#3117 [19:35] <JohnEBH> should be easier/faster/more accurate
#3118 [19:35] <JohnEBH> The thing I just asked for
#3119 [19:35] <evilelmo> I see
#3120 [19:36] <evilelmo> mind if I leave out computer name?
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#3122 [19:36] <JohnEBH> Sure? xD
#3123 [19:37] * |Kiikun| points out nothing in a dxdiag is really personally idenifying... unless you use your social security number as a windows username... but thats just silly.
#3123 [19:37] <evilelmo> okay http://pastebin.com/qmKeT71h
#3124 [19:37] <|Kiikun|> wait.. even the... usernames dont show.. just the comp name :P
#3125 [19:38] <evilelmo> it's got my name on it and I don't know any of you guys :P
#3126 [19:38] <|Kiikun|> evilelmo: sokay :3
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#3128 [19:38] * |Kiikun| tends to give his comps names anyway :P
#3128 [19:38] <|Kiikun|> thus Janus over there.
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#3131 [19:39] <JohnEBH> ??> evilelmo win/reinst/bat
#3132 [19:39] <VoxelHead> evilelmo: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#3133 [19:39] <JohnEBH> evilelmo- One more try xD
#3134 [19:39] <VoxelHead> evilelmo: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#3135 [19:39] <mib_5wjngl> how to update open gl
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#3138 [19:39] <JohnEBH> mib_5wjngl- How to google?
#3139 [19:39] * ohhhyeeeaaa [ohhhyeeeaaa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3140 [19:40] <JohnEBH> mib_5wjngl- On a more serious note, update your video drivers
#3141 [19:40] <ohhhyeeeaaa> how much ram do i need to run minecraft beta
#3142 [19:40] <|Kiikun|> mib_5wjngl: update video driver.
#3143 [19:40] <JohnEBH> ohhhyeeeaaa- It's no longer in beta, 1.5gb minimum
#3144 [19:40] <ohhhyeeeaaa> awww i got 1 gb
#3145 [19:40] <|Kiikun|> ohhhyeeeaaa: mojang sugersts atleast a gig.. we say more
#3146 [19:40] <evilelmo> it said it couldnt find it
#3147 [19:40] <evilelmo> and that rm isn't a valid command
#3148 [19:40] <JohnEBH> evilelmo- Ehhh?
#3149 [19:41] <JohnEBH> Mine Teamviewer-ing?
#3150 [19:41] <JohnEBH> ??> evilelmo teamviewer
#3151 [19:41] <evilelmo> ill do it again and give you a screenshot
#3152 [19:41] <VoxelHead> evilelmo: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#3153 [19:41] <VoxelHead> evilelmo: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#3154 [19:41] <evilelmo> I know you're only helping me and i really appreciate it but I'm not comfortable letting anyone on teamviewer I don't know..
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#3156 [19:42] <JohnEBH> Alright, go %appdata% in Start Search and check if .minecraft is there
#3157 [19:42] <evilelmo> it is
#3158 [19:42] <JohnEBH> typing things out is just a little slower and inaccurate =P
#3159 [19:42] <JohnEBH> What do you see in the folder?
#3160 [19:43] <JohnEBH> I think there should be 7-9 items in there =P
#3161 [19:43] <evilelmo> saves, stats, lastlogin, options, servers.dat
#3162 [19:44] <JohnEBH> No bin or resources folder?
#3163 [19:44] <evilelmo> no but maybe that is because of the uninstall thing you gave me
#3164 [19:44] <evilelmo> no but maybe that is because of the uninstall thing you gave me
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#3166 [19:44] <evilelmo> it had a bin in there before; I tried deleting the version file some people said that'd help
#3167 [19:45] <JohnEBH> Can you play via website?
#3168 [19:45] <evilelmo> havent tried
#3169 [19:45] <Razor> Hi, I just tried purchasing Minecraft, when I went to pay it said my card could not go through due to being declined by bank, but when I clicked back to merchant it said I purchased Minecraft. My question is Do I resend the card info? I have 3 times now and still the same thing, I dont want to keep sending it and get charged a couple hundred dollars.
#3170 [19:45] <evilelmo> my problem seems to cohere most with http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111206162627AAIELZz but the answer is not satisfactory...
#3171 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> The second page always returns a success message even after a failure. You're better off trusting the first page
#3172 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Razor - Just to be sure, you may want to call your bank
#3173 [19:46] <evilelmo> ill try the browser version, though
#3174 [19:46] <Razor> Ok thank you, Any idea why it would not let me? I have close to a grand in the bank so its not a funds issue
#3175 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Many banks have fraud protection for international purchases. Since Mojang is a company based in Sweden, it's typically an international purchase for minecraft.
#3176 [19:47] <Razor> Ahhhhh Ok I will call my bank quick and find out. Thank you very much for your help.
#3177 [19:48] <evilelmo> JohnEBH, it crashed my java eventhough I updated it today to 1.7
#3178 [19:48] <evilelmo> the java not minecraft
#3179 [19:48] <JohnEBH> evilelmo- Don't use 1.7
#3180 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> evilelmo - Java 7's been known to cause problems with minecraft, hence why we recommend 6 around here
#3181 [19:48] <evilelmo> I see
#3182 [19:48] <JohnEBH> Although I never seem to have issues with MC and 1.7...
#3183 [19:48] <evilelmo> you on 64 bit?
#3184 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> For some, 1.7 actually increases performance.
#3185 [19:49] <evilelmo> might be a 32 bit issue
#3186 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't matter if it's 32 or 64 bit.
#3187 [19:49] <JohnEBH> My sister plays on 1.7 32bit
#3188 [19:49] <evilelmo> mm
#3189 [19:49] <JohnEBH> I play on 1.7 64bit
#3190 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> We see quite a lot of people with Java 7 and minecraft have tons of problems.
#3191 [19:49] <evilelmo> well i disabled 1.7 and enabled 1.6
#3192 [19:49] <evilelmo> I'll give it another go
#3193 [19:50] <evilelmo> it's running in browser now
#3194 [19:50] <JohnEBH> So it's a launcher only issue?
#3195 [19:51] <evilelmo> I think so
#3196 [19:52] <evilelmo> okay I am having some lag but its letting me stay
#3197 [19:52] <evilelmo> yeah i have some lag but everything else seems to be ok
#3198 [19:53] <JohnEBH> Only thing running?
#3199 [19:54] <evilelmo> no I have irc, vent and steam open too
#3200 [19:54] <evilelmo> and gamebooster because of my crappy specs pardon my language
#3201 [19:54] <evilelmo> nvm, the lag is my internet acting up
#3202 [19:55] <evilelmo> cutting out at similar intervals in vent too
#3203 [19:55] <evilelmo> so my issue is purely a driver issue
#3204 [19:55] <evilelmo> launcher*
#3205 [19:55] <evilelmo> sorry
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#3207 [19:55] <Razor> GreyVulpine- I just got off the phone with the bank and they said they have not received any transactions to decline or accept for the past few hours so Im guessing its an issue with my browser or they do not except my card
#3208 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Razor - Could be the card, or could be the payment service not accepting the card.
#3209 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> Razor - We typically see a more reliable transaction process wtih Paypal around here
#3210 [19:56] <evilelmo> JohnEBH do you ahve any idea what the launcher could be, though?
#3211 [19:56] <Razor> Ok well I do have a paypal account so I will try it that way, thanks again for your help. Have a great day
#3212 [19:56] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#3212 [19:57] <JohnEBH> evilelmo- I think GreyVulpine would have a better answer to that xD
#3213 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3214 [19:57] <evilelmo> okay, need me to restate my issue/
#3215 [19:57] <evilelmo> ?*
#3216 [19:57] <JohnEBH> evilelmo seems to have launcher issues, playable in browser/laggy
#3217 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> I caught part of it... black screen.
#3218 [19:58] <evilelmo> yes, when i play using the launcher my screen goes brown like the dirt blocks texture and then turns black
#3219 [19:58] <evilelmo> the results when I google it are all the same but don't work for me
#3220 [19:58] <evilelmo> I have tried reinstalling it, force updating it, removing my version file, allocating more RAM and updating java
#3221 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> if it's playable but laggy in the browser, but not in the launcher, it typically points to a very old computer. The browser has very slightly different launch parameters which are less gpu intensive
#3222 [19:59] <evilelmo> I do have an old computer
#3223 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> The computer may just be on the cusp of not running minecraft well, and the browser's slightly looser launch arguments are the only thing that'll launch minecraft
#3224 [19:59] <evilelmo> I see
#3225 [20:00] <evilelmo> I have 2x 2.4 GHz, 3 MB DDR2 RAM and a GeForce 8400 so that is probably it then
#3226 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> Those specs don't sound all that bad.
#3227 [20:01] <evilelmo> well, thank you both very much for helping, I'll just beg for money for christmas and play in browser until then
#3228 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> I'll just assume you mean 3 gigs of RAM, instead of megs.
#3229 [20:01] <evilelmo> yes GB
#3230 [20:01] <evilelmo> lol sorry
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#3232 [20:01] <evilelmo> 3 mb wouldn't run google chrome ^^,
#3233 [20:02] <evilelmo> wel it's a 5 year old computer I believe anyway
#3234 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> I run a dual core myself, with an nvidia 8800GTS, and it'll run minecraft no problem. My older machine at a 6600GT ran minecraft pretty well.
#3235 [20:02] <evilelmo> hmmm
#3236 [20:02] <mib_i4ex8e> Help!!! just bought game, but every time I play it, it kicks me off.
#3237 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> As long as you ensure that you're running java 6 natively, and have the latest video drivers, minecraft should run for you.
#3238 [20:02] <NutBunnyTheConqueror> GreyVulpine: a Geforce2 can run minecraft acording to the opengl requirements :3
#3239 [20:02] <evilelmo> okay
#3240 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> NutBunnyTheConqueror - Pfft.. not through practice here. We've had a number of people with nvidia geforce 2s...
#3241 [20:03] <evilelmo> well I just downgraded my java to 1.6 again, maybe I should try launcher again
#3242 [20:03] <NutBunnyTheConqueror> is it a 'pixel format' or just cant run well enough?
#3243 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> Case in point, this machine a little while back couldn't handle minecrafft: http://pastebin.com/tA8X5Pmh
#3244 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Even after updating drivers
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#3246 [20:04] <evilelmo> well the thing is, when i try to play COD 4 and put it to recommended specs I can run it with most medium-high but at 2 FPS, so technically a GeForce 2 would probably be able to run minecraft just not in any desirable way...
#3247 [20:04] <evilelmo> anywho john and greyvulpine I'll see if my launcher will give me any more clues
#3248 [20:04] <mib_i4ex8e> should I change my options? It plays for a few minutes, but kicks me off every time.
#3249 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> evilelmo - Minecraft is special in that it runs OpenGL. Many AAA titles run DirectX
#3250 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_i4ex8e - Kicks you off how?
#3251 [20:05] <NutBunnyTheConqueror> because AAA titles have butloads of cash to hand to macroshaft for rights to use the directx sdk :P
#3252 [20:06] <mib_i4ex8e> the screen goes black, and then it says error.
#3253 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Does it give you an error report?
#3254 [20:06] <mib_i4ex8e> yep
#3255 [20:06] <langkid1> would it be illegal for me to make a .ZIP package with the newest pre-release of Minecraft?
#3256 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Please copy the contents of that error report to www.pastebin.com, paste it there, submit it, then give us the URL to it
#3257 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> langkid1 - Yes.
#3258 [20:06] <langkid1> GreyVulpine, y
#3259 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> It's against the Terms of Use to package any minecraft files and distribute them.
#3260 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> see http://www.minecraft.net/terms
#3261 [20:07] <langkid1> (the pre-releases I'm talking about are the http://assets.minecraft.net/11w50a/minecraft.jar
#3262 [20:07] <langkid1> awwww
#3263 [20:07] * langkid1 sulks
#3263 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> You may have the best of intentions, but look at it this way. People downloading from you have no way of verifying that the files are legit, or being virus-free.
#3264 [20:08] * langkid1 curses at VoxelHead
#3264 [20:08] <evilelmo> I seem to run MC in the launcher jsut fine now, how weird
#3265 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> We've seen launchers chock-full of trojans and password-stealers.
#3266 [20:08] <evilelmo> reinstalling entirely doesn't work but that silly program did the job...
#3267 [20:08] <langkid1> GreyVulpine, it would only be for my friends who aren't tech savvy enough to go to the APPDATA folder
#3268 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> langkid1 - Then teach them.
#3269 [20:09] <langkid1> GreyVulpine, took me three months to burn it into one of my friend's mind
#3270 [20:09] <langkid1> ._.
#3271 [20:09] <NutBunnyTheConqueror> langkid1: then make a batch fiel that moves it in for them
#3272 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Or even, point them to us, we'll teach them
#3273 [20:09] <NutBunnyTheConqueror> make them download the jar.
#3274 [20:09] <langkid1> NutBunnyTheConqueror, ok, I'll read up on that
#3275 [20:09] <langkid1> does Windows have a equivalent of 'wget'?
#3276 [20:10] <evilelmo> greyvulpine the launcher let me in for a few minutes but it brown and black screened again
#3277 [20:10] <evilelmo> Ill just go witht eh browser version
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#3279 [20:10] <evilelmo> thanks for all your help though, johnEBH and greyvulpine
#3280 [20:11] <evilelmo> bye
#3281 [20:11] * GreyVulpine waves
#3281 [20:11] <JohnEBH> >< Bye!
#3282 [20:11] <JohnEBH> Derp
#3283 [20:11] <libraryaddict> I got minecraft installed on one harddrive. Just got a solid state drive and now running windows 7 on that
#3284 [20:11] <JohnEBH> ?< inex
#3285 [20:11] <JohnEBH> ?< index
#3286 [20:11] <JohnEBH> ??< index
#3287 [20:11] <libraryaddict> How do I run minecraft on the other drive instead of using my solid state?
#3288 [20:11] <libraryaddict> Or would solid state be better
#3289 [20:11] <JohnEBH> I've been gone for too long...
#3290 [20:11] <JohnEBH> Solid state woyld be better
#3291 [20:11] <langkid1> libraryaddict, you'll need a mo
#3292 [20:11] <JohnEBH> Would*
#3293 [20:11] * libraryaddict blatently ignores him and no reason
#3293 [20:11] <libraryaddict> mo?
#3294 [20:11] <langkid1> libraryaddict, what drive is your OS installed on?
#3295 [20:12] <libraryaddict> •Freddy•
#3296 [20:12] <libraryaddict> opps
#3297 [20:12] <JohnEBH> And to run on it a different drive
#3298 [20:12] <libraryaddict> I meant F:
#3299 [20:12] <langkid1> sorry, I meant, mod*
#3300 [20:12] <JohnEBH> All you need is a simple batch file
#3301 [20:12] <langkid1> libraryaddict, no, the HDD or the SSD?
#3302 [20:12] <libraryaddict> HDD is C. SSD is F
#3303 [20:12] <langkid1> ...
#3304 [20:12] <JohnEBH> I use this: "set appdata=%cd%
#3305 [20:12] <JohnEBH> (New line)Minecraft.exe"
#3306 [20:12] <langkid1> ok
#3307 [20:12] <langkid1> so the HDD is what it's installed on
#3308 [20:12] <libraryaddict> ok great. Ill try that
#3309 [20:12] <langkid1> libraryaddict, wait let me get the link
#3310 [20:13] <libraryaddict> Auctally. Anyone know how to run everything off one drive and windows on another
#3311 [20:13] <langkid1> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/302629-tool-anycraft-61-updated-all-mc-versions/
#3312 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> Shouldn't be that hard libraryaddict
#3313 [20:13] <langkid1> libraryaddict, "anything" being every program?
#3314 [20:13] <JohnEBH> Uhh wouldn't you just install "anything" to the other drive?
#3315 [20:14] <JohnEBH> Sounds pretty simple xD
#3316 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> simple registry entry of pointing the program files folder to a different drive. You can also move your profile to another drive
#3317 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> It's what I do on my windows installs
#3318 [20:14] <langkid1> also, i would run my OS and programs off the SSD and use the HDD for larger files
#3319 [20:14] <langkid1> er
#3320 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> Completely possible
#3321 [20:14] <langkid1> nvm
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#3323 [20:14] <libraryaddict> Hmm. I guess I need to find a idiots guide for doing that
#3324 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> http://www.pctools.com/guides/registry/detail/1137/
#3325 [20:15] <libraryaddict> Im not a idiot. But I rather make sure I didnt modify my windows key
#3326 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> It's a simple registry key change
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#3331 [20:19] <libraryaddict> pfft. Minecraft still runs from SSD. Theres no restart needed?
#3332 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> If you've got your windows profile on the SSD, you can use JohnEBH's method of a batch file
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#3334 [20:24] <libraryaddict> Eh. Idk what I did wrong but minecraft still runs from SSD. However I think i may as well keep it there and run everything off HHD somehow
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#3336 [20:28] <mib_jhm5ry> IT WONT LOAD GAME FOR MY SON SAYING PIXEL SETTINGS ARE NOT ACCELERATED
#3337 [20:29] <Omega_Guardian> try googling it? Maybe it's opengl driver out of date issue
#3338 [20:29] <mib_jhm5ry> he wants to play the classic verssion
#3339 [20:29] <Kealper> mib_jhm5ry: classic or paid-for Minecraft?
#3340 [20:29] <Kealper> oh
#3341 [20:30] <Kealper> mib_jhm5ry: do you know your computer specifications?
#3342 [20:30] <mib_jhm5ry> no its a windows seven
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#3344 [20:30] <Kealper> ok so... most likely a newer computer
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#3346 [20:30] <Kealper> mib_jhm5ry: something called VoxelHead is about to tell you something, follow what that thing says
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#3348 [20:30] <Kealper> ??> mib_jhm5ry win/dxdiag
#3349 [20:30] <VoxelHead> mib_jhm5ry: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3350 [20:30] <raisin> how can i check to see what is wrong with my minecraft
#3351 [20:30] <mib_jhm5ry> yes like two years old just downloaded the java for it
#3352 [20:30] <VoxelHead> mib_jhm5ry: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3353 [20:31] <Kealper> mib_jhm5ry: follow what VoxelHead just said
#3354 [20:31] <Kealper> it'll help me debug your issu
#3355 [20:31] <Kealper> issue*
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#3357 [20:32] <raisin> i just bought minecraft yesterday and i get a black screen right after i log in
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#3360 [20:33] <Kealper> raisin: is it safe to assume you didn't try to put any mods or texture packs on?
#3361 [20:33] <raisin> correct
#3362 [20:33] <raisin> i downloaded it and tried playing
#3363 [20:33] <raisin> no mods or anything
#3364 [20:33] <Kealper> raisin: do you know your computer specifications? (or at the very least, it's approximate age)
#3365 [20:34] <raisin> i7q 740 8gb ram ati mobility radeon hd 5850 windwos 7 64 bit
#3366 [20:34] <mib_jhm5ry> what should be the pixel settings for this game
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#3368 [20:35] <Wug> Kealper: whats your minecraft username?
#3369 [20:35] <Kealper> raisin: my first suggestion is to make sure you have Java and your graphics drivers from AMD's website
#3370 [20:36] <raisin> i do i did that earlier when i asked someone for help but i had to leave
#3371 [20:36] <dipman55> I need the video driver update. When I first download the game Tech Support here gave me a link for it.
#3372 [20:36] <Kealper> Wug: it ignores people who have auth over it, so it doesn't trip the command twice if we try and get into a ninjafest
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#3374 [20:36] <dipman55> please and thank you
#3375 [20:36] <minecraft_guest17015> NutBunny
#3376 [20:36] <minecraft_guest17015> :P
#3377 [20:36] <Wug> wugbot, whats your minecraft account name?
#3378 [20:36] <Wug> wugbot, whats your minecraft username?
#3379 [20:36] <Wug> ;say wugbot
#3380 [20:36] <WugBot> wugbot
#3381 [20:36] <Wug> :D
#3382 [20:36] <Kealper> lol
#3383 [20:37] <minecraft_guest17015> that works
#3384 [20:37] <minecraft_guest17015> lol
#3385 [20:37] <JohnEBH> loool
#3386 [20:37] <Wug> cool
#3387 [20:37] <Wug> but
#3388 [20:37] <mib_jhm5ry> hello what are the pixel settings
#3389 [20:37] <Wug> wugbot, whats your minecraft username?
#3390 [20:37] <minecraft_guest17015> mib_jhm5ry: update your video drivers
#3391 [20:37] <Wug> ;say Wug: wugbot
#3392 [20:37] <WugBot> Wug: wugbot
#3393 [20:37] <Wug> Kealper: ^
#3394 [20:37] <Wug> make it ding sensitive?
#3395 [20:37] <minecraft_guest17015> derpony
#3396 [20:37] <Wug> or rather, ding ignorant
#3397 [20:38] <Kealper> mib_jhm5ry: nothing that you should mess with, i was going to give you a link to update your graphics drivers
#3398 [20:38] <minecraft_guest17015> :P
#3399 [20:38] <mib_jhm5ry> currently on a 32 bit 1 htz
#3400 [20:38] <Kealper> Wug: i'm really lazy though
#3401 [20:38] <raisin> Kealper so do u have any ideas?
#3402 [20:38] <Kealper> raisin: you tried the graphics drivers from AMD's website?
#3403 [20:38] <mib_jhm5ry> ok whats the link
#3404 [20:38] <raisin> Kealper yea i have the newest ones that came out the 12th of this month
#3405 [20:39] <Kealper> mib_jhm5ry: i can't give you the link until you give me the dxdiag thing i asked for (the thing i told you to follow VoxelHead for)
#3406 [20:39] <Kealper> ??>> mib_jhm5ry win/dxdiag
#3407 [20:39] <Kealper> mib_jhm5ry: follow the red text that you just got
#3408 [20:39] <minecraft_guest17015> I R TEH GREETEST!!!!!
#3409 [20:39] * WugBot kicked minecraft_guest17015 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: inecraft_guest17015 :Kicked by NutBunnyTheConqueror) (go away clone)
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#3411 [20:39] <NutBunnyTheConqueror> :P
#3412 [20:40] <Thrae> ??> win/dxdiag raisin
#3413 [20:40] <Wug> if I didnt know that you were kiikun
#3414 [20:40] <Thrae> ??> raisin win/dxdiag
#3415 [20:40] <VoxelHead> raisin: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3416 [20:40] <VoxelHead> raisin: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3417 [20:40] <Wug> I would be like wtf who was that
#3418 [20:40] <lemon-rev> thrae name then win dxdiag lol
#3419 [20:40] <bellows> minecraft stops download after about 14% complete and freezes with a registered acciunt
#3420 [20:40] <Thrae> raisin: Let's verify the drivers were properly installed
#3421 [20:40] <Thrae> lemon-rev: Skyrim made me rusty
#3422 [20:40] <lemon-rev> oh
#3423 [20:40] <lemon-rev> yea
#3424 [20:40] * NutBunnyTheConqueror rnicks again
#3424 [20:40] <mib_jhm5ry> dxdiag6.00.6000.16386 32 bit uncode
#3425 [20:40] <Kealper> ._.
#3426 [20:41] <lemon-rev> skyrim make me sleepy :P
#3427 [20:41] <NutBunnyTheConqueror> huh..
#3428 [20:41] <Kealper> mib_jhm5ry: you didn't follow VoxelHead's instructions lol... do you still have that thing open?
#3429 [20:41] <mib_jhm5ry> yes
#3430 [20:41] <Kealper> mib_jhm5ry: ok then, see the "Save All Information..." button?
#3431 [20:41] <mib_jhm5ry> yes
#3432 [20:42] <Kealper> mib_jhm5ry: click that button, and save that .txt file to somewhere that you will be able to find it, beause you will need to open it in a few seconds
#3433 [20:42] <mib_jhm5ry> ok
#3434 [20:43] <mib_jhm5ry> ok saved it
#3435 [20:43] <Kealper> mib_jhm5ry: now, open that txt file up that you just saved, and right click it and select "Select All", after that right click again and select "Copy"
#3436 [20:43] <NutBunnyTheConqueror> o.o;;
#3437 [20:43] <Kealper> when you have it copied, tell me
#3438 [20:43] <dipman55> http://pastebin.com/6ZyaRZLm
#3439 [20:43] * NutBunnyTheConqueror changed nicks into banlength on #mcp apparently!
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#3440 [20:44] <Guest48175> hi there, would anyone happen to know why I can not login to minecraft anymore?
#3441 [20:45] <raisin> Kealper do you want me to submit it onto that pastebin?
#3442 [20:45] <Kealper> raisin: Thrae wants you to, but yes put it on pastebin
#3443 [20:45] <Kealper> Guest48175: what's your minecraft username?
#3444 [20:45] <Guest48175> i haven't played the game for several months, but when I try to login via the client or minecraft.net, it doesn't work
#3445 [20:45] <mib_jhm5ry> ok coppied
#3446 [20:46] <dipman55> Keapler I have my link... http://pastebin.com/6ZyaRZLm
#3447 [20:46] <Kealper> mib_jhm5ry: ok now, go to http://pastebin.com and paste it into that site, then click the "Submit" button on there
#3448 [20:46] <raisin> Kealper: http://pastebin.com/DhjgYN8n
#3449 [20:46] <Guest48175> Kealper, I'd rather not give out my account info unless its to official mojang support
#3450 [20:47] <Kealper> Guest48175: your username is publicly available, and is your display name in multiplayer anyways :/
#3451 [20:47] <Guest48175> good point
#3452 [20:47] <Guest48175> it's chrisproco
#3453 [20:47] <|Kiikun|> Guest48175: were not askign for, nor will ever ask for the pass or email address.
#3454 [20:47] <Kealper> and besides that, this about as official of a support as you're going to get
#3455 [20:48] <Kealper> !paid chrisproco
#3456 [20:48] <mib_jhm5ry> ok submitted it
#3457 [20:48] <Kealper> dipman55: uhh... what was your issue anyways? too many people in here right now o.o
#3458 [20:49] <Kealper> mib_jhm5ry: can you copy the URL (in the top of your browser window) and give it in here?
#3459 [20:49] <Thrae> raisin: "river Date/Size: 8/10/2010 16:51:56, 598528 bytes"
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#3461 [20:49] <mib_jhm5ry> http://pastebin.com/3rSgkjAN
#3462 [20:49] <mib_jhm5ry> there yeah go
#3463 [20:49] <Thrae> raisin: So for whatever reason the drivers didn't actually install (this happens all too often with ATI/AMD)
#3464 [20:50] <raisin> Thrae thats weird how can i fix this
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#3466 [20:50] <Kealper> oh my
#3467 [20:51] <mib_10x7kv> well um about a week ago i perchased the game and went through the transaction and was charged the amount. but still i havnt recieved the email confirming it and have been unable to play the game?
#3468 [20:51] <mib_jhm5ry> oh my what
#3469 [20:51] <dipman55> http://pastebin.com/6ZyaRZLm
#3470 [20:51] <Kealper> mib_jhm5ry: unfortunately your computer is using a cheap SiS graphics chip, so that is the problem :/
#3471 [20:51] <Thrae> raisin: Download and install this driver -- http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats?DriverId=17RDK&FileId=2731097649
#3472 [20:52] <Kealper> dipman55: one sec
#3473 [20:52] <mib_jhm5ry> ok so he wont be able to play unless i get a new graphics chip
#3474 [20:52] <raisin> Thrae ok im downloading now
#3475 [20:52] <Kealper> dipman55: your issue is that the game is not running and getting a black screen, right?
#3476 [20:52] <dipman55> yes
#3477 [20:53] <Thrae> raisin: If that doesn't work, install Driver Sweeper from http://phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html , uninstall the driver from "Programs and Features", reboot into Safe Mode, remove all traces of ATI/AMD display drivers, reboot normally
#3478 [20:53] <mib_jhm5ry> so kealper there is nothing we can do
#3479 [20:53] <Kealper> mib_jhm5ry: unfortunately nothing that is free :/
#3480 [20:53] <Thrae> Actually I wonder if the update on AMD/ATI's website contains drivers
#3481 [20:54] <mib_jhm5ry> ok thanks for your help have a good night
#3482 [20:54] <Kealper> dipman55: one sec, i'll get you a graphics driver update to try, seeing as you have the Windows Update version of the drivers and those are usually the culprit
#3483 [20:54] <mib_10x7kv> well um about a week ago i perchased the game and went through the transaction and was charged the amount. but still i havnt recieved the email confirming it and have been unable to play the game?
#3484 [20:54] <Thrae> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx <-- it says the file size is 1.1MB
#3485 [20:54] <Thrae> That's generally too small for drivers (in fact, that's too small for CCC itself)
#3486 [20:54] <Kealper> Thrae: that's probably a downloader
#3487 [20:55] <|Kiikun|> Thrae: i actually thought that was just the downloader.
#3488 [20:55] * |Kiikun| was ninjad
#3488 [20:55] <Thrae> Yeah I just downloaded it myself
#3489 [20:55] <raisin> |Kiikun was helping me earlier but i had to go lol
#3490 [20:56] <Kealper> dipman55: http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/38916 give that a shot
#3491 [20:57] <|Kiikun|> i was also stumped
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#3493 [20:57] <Thrae> |Kiikun|: Yeah, his drivers didn't update
#3494 [20:59] <raisin> Thrae i downloaded the driver u wanted me to
#3495 [20:59] <Thrae> Remember -- AMD/ATI installers lie, they'll just update CCC, silently fail on drivers, then say they're successful
#3496 [20:59] <Thrae> raisin: Install and reboot
#3497 [20:59] <|Kiikun|> if i remember right... the dell suppled drivers were 'up to date', java 6 of right bittage...
#3498 [20:59] <raisin> Thrae ok im working on it now
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#3500 [20:59] <|Kiikun|> and still blackscreens.
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#3502 [20:59] <raisin> yea
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#3504 [20:59] <raisin> i pasted my system info on paste bin for thrae
#3505 [21:01] <raisin> thrae it finished and it says my display driver is version 8.763.0.0000
#3506 [21:02] <Thrae> raisin: Hmm, same version as before. OK, you'll have to follow the 2nd step.
#3507 [21:02] <Thrae> raisin: <+Thrae> raisin: If that doesn't work, install Driver Sweeper from http://phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html , uninstall the driver from "Programs and Features", reboot into Safe Mode (http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm), remove all traces of ATI/AMD display drivers using Driver Sweeper, reboot normally
#3508 [21:03] <Thrae> Then install the driver you downloaded before from AMD/ATI
#3509 [21:04] <raisin> Thrae uhm idk how to do that lmfao
#3510 [21:04] <raisin> how do i go into safe mode? i might f something up
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#3512 [21:05] <Thrae> raisin: That's why I gave you a link explaining how to go into Safe Mode.
#3513 [21:05] <raisin> Thrae will it mess anything up on my pc
#3514 [21:06] <Thrae> Yes, it could possibly mess up your graphics drivers. Worst case scenario the new install won't work and you'll just have to install the Dell drivers again, no big deal.
#3515 [21:10] <raisin> Thrae how do i uninstall the "Programs and Features"? lol
#3516 [21:12] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#3517 [21:12] <Thrae> raisin: "Programs and Features" is how you uninstall programs with Windows Vista and 7, it's in the Control Panel.
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#3519 [21:12] <raisin> Thrae wow i am an idiot haha
#3520 [21:12] <Full-Derp> no aubot, i will not just ask my question
#3521 [21:13] <Kealper> Full-Derp: what's your minecraft account name?
#3522 [21:13] <Full-Derp> Kealper: it's derp
#3523 [21:13] <Full-Derp> wahey
#3524 [21:13] <Full-Derp> aubot works
#3525 [21:13] <raisin> Thrae so what driver do u want me to un install before i reboot?
#3526 [21:14] <Thrae> raisin: All AMD / ATI Display references
#3527 [21:14] <raisin> i only see the ati install manager
#3528 [21:15] <Kealper> !auto off
#3529 [21:15] <Kealper> NotKealper: minecraft profile name?
#3530 [21:15] <NotKealper> no
#3531 [21:16] <NotKealper> alright.. that works as well
#3532 [21:16] <Kealper> !auto on
#3533 [21:16] <Thrae> Thrae: What's your minecraft username?
#3534 [21:17] <Thrae> My minecraft username is noneofyourbusiness.
#3535 [21:17] <raisin> Thrae i only see the ati catalyst install manager do u want me to un install that?
#3536 [21:17] <Scott> i have amd gpu but i don't use catalyst o:
#3537 [21:17] <Thrae> generalmx
#3538 [21:17] <Kealper> Thrae: it ignores people who have the ability to trigger it, also i have to make it check for punctuation on the last line
#3539 [21:18] <Thrae> I broke it using the power of sentences =/
#3540 [21:18] <Thrae> Thrae: My minecraft username is generalmx
#3541 [21:18] <Thrae> raisin: Odd, yes try that
#3542 [21:19] <Kealper> Thrae: no, it's just ignoring you because you've got the ability to trigger it
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#3544 [21:19] <Kealper> that's so people can't get into a ninja-war and accidentally trigger it by asking the same question too slow
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#3546 [21:20] <Kealper> and only people who are voice or ops in here can trigger it
#3547 [21:22] <Kealper> wahey, timeout works
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#3549 [21:23] <jawzter> i need help in updating my minecraft
#3550 [21:23] <jawzter> somehow it won't update from classic
#3551 [21:24] <jawzter> and i am a premium account user
#3552 [21:24] <LEVENDIZ> you need to download the new client
#3553 [21:24] <LEVENDIZ> minecraft.net then hit download
#3554 [21:25] <Kealper> !client
#3555 [21:26] <jawzter> i do this all the time when i play
#3556 [21:26] <jawzter> but it opens up
#3557 [21:26] <jawzter> 1.0.0
#3558 [21:26] <jawzter> and now 1.8
#3559 [21:26] <jawzter> not*
#3560 [21:26] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
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#3562 [21:26] <Kealper> jawzter: 1.0.0 is the correct version
#3563 [21:27] <langkid1> I finished making my batch files to install pre-releases! http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/868579-tool-pre-release-install-batch-fi
#3564 [21:27] <langkid1> sorry
#3565 [21:27] <langkid1> I cut that off :(
#3566 [21:27] <langkid1> http://j.mp/sZYiM5 is the link
#3567 [21:27] <Kealper> 1.8 was beta, when it came out of beta, the version number reset back to 1.0
#3568 [21:27] <jawzter> ohhh
#3569 [21:27] <jawzter> really?
#3570 [21:27] <Kealper> jawzter: indeed
#3571 [21:27] <jawzter> lols
#3572 [21:27] <Kealper> !tinyurl http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/868579-tool-pre-release-install-batch-file/
#3573 [21:27] <jawzter> wow
#3574 [21:27] <Kealper> :>
#3575 [21:28] <langkid1> :|
#3576 [21:28] <Kealper> every bot needs it's own url shortener
#3577 [21:29] <jawzter> haha ok thanks guys
#3578 [21:29] <Kealper> and every nerd needs to make their own url shortening api :>
#3579 [21:29] <jawzter> i guess i was just tripping
#3580 [21:29] <Kealper> jawzter: oh man it was bad the day that release came out, we had people just pouring in here asking the same question lol
#3581 [21:30] <jawzter> haha
#3582 [21:30] <jawzter> i see
#3583 [21:30] <jawzter> well dang...there isnt much u can do or make in minecraft then lols
#3584 [21:30] <jawzter> i couldn't make some of the things i saw on youtube
#3585 [21:30] <Thrae> As always, there's logic in the decision, just that logic has a bit of a Notch in it.
#3586 [21:30] <Kealper> langkid1: my suggestion is to also provide a direct link, and mark the ad-supported download link as such... if people find your tool useful then they will click the ad one
#3587 [21:31] <Kealper> Thrae: exactly lol
#3588 [21:31] <langkid1> ok
#3589 [21:31] <Kealper> it just doesn't look good when people have only the ad supported link :/
#3590 [21:32] <Kealper> as a side-note, i think i'm going to do some code optimising on my url shortening site
#3591 [21:32] <Kealper> it's too slow right now
#3592 [21:32] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#3593 [21:32] <Kealper> that should be done for now
#3594 [21:33] <Kealper> (that module, that is)
#3595 [21:35] <langkid1> !tinyurl http://langkid1.me/mods/Install_Minecraft_11w50a.zip
#3596 [21:36] <Kealper> that stuff might break in a few seconds, i'm going to try pushing the update that increases the speed :o
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#3598 [21:38] <Kealper> wow, that's still slow...
#3599 [21:40] <Kealper> oh, crap.. that's why it's so slow.. i'm opening and closing the database for each read or write ._.
#3600 [21:45] <Kealper> hmm... still slow.. SQLite is garbage :|
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#3607 [21:55] <Kealper> the SQLite EXEC function takes ages.... like 150ms to write a query :/
#3608 [21:57] <JohnEBH> Hey Kealper, did you buy every domain under your name? xD
#3609 [21:57] <Kealper> nope :o
#3610 [21:57] <Kealper> that'd cost too much lol
#3611 [21:57] <JohnEBH> Would you in the near future? xD
#3612 [21:57] * JohnEBH starts buying
#3612 [21:57] <Kealper> why... O.o
#3613 [21:57] <Kealper> D:
#3614 [21:57] <JohnEBH> lololol
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#3617 [21:58] * Kealper abuses SOPA and gets the websites blocked >:D
#3617 [21:59] <JohnEBH> =O
#3618 [21:59] <JohnEBH> I don't understand SOPA...
#3619 [22:00] <Kealper> http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/SOPAinfographic.jpg
#3620 [22:00] <langkid1> SOPA PASSED, OH S***
#3621 [22:00] <langkid1> Everyone panic!
#3622 [22:00] <Kealper> langkid1: not that i know of
#3623 [22:00] <JohnEBH> I knoww that much ^ (Not the link)
#3624 [22:01] <langkid1> but: * Kealper abuses SOPA and gets the websites blocked >:D
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#3626 [22:01] <Kealper> even if it passes in the house judiciary committee, that doesn't meant it's completely passed, it still has to go to the general vote in the house
#3627 [22:02] <Kealper> but if it passes the house committee then that means there is a strong chance it will pass through the house
#3628 [22:02] <JohnEBH> ...
#3629 [22:02] <JohnEBH> I never really cared for Facebook and such...
#3630 [22:02] <Kealper> it isn't just facebook
#3631 [22:02] <Kealper> any site
#3632 [22:02] <JohnEBH> But I 'd hate to see my friends commit suicide xD
#3633 [22:02] <Kealper> not even this irc is immune
#3634 [22:03] <JohnEBH> Freedom won't exist >:
#3635 [22:03] <Kealper> ^
#3636 [22:04] <Kealper> quite literally... if people are allowed to talk on it, and it uses a domain name for anything, there is a potential for it to get blocked under SOPA
#3637 [22:04] <Kealper> and that's why it is so dangerous, because it's so broadly-worded
#3638 [22:07] <JohnEBH> There's probably plenty of petitions againts this already right?
#3639 [22:08] <Kealper> indeed
#3640 [22:08] <Kealper> but politicians don't work for the people anymore... they are all bought and paid-for now days ._.
#3641 [22:08] <Kealper> well.. most
#3642 [22:09] <JohnEBH> Yeah... And in general, I never see petitions come up anywhere unless you're looking for one specifically
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#3644 [22:10] <Kealper> because so many people are up-in-arms about it lol
#3645 [22:10] <JohnEBH> Reminds of this SC2 Lan petition xD
#3646 [22:10] <Omega_Guardian> even on the official site for it, they pretty much admitted they aren't going to do any of the incredibly obvious stuff that the even a majority of people want
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#3648 [22:10] <Omega_Guardian> they responded to some of the big ones and basically said nope we won't do it
#3649 [22:11] <JohnEBH> Unless it's on paper with their signatures on it, I'll believe it -.-
#3650 [22:11] <bernard> so i do my usual log in username and password but for some reason when i click the login button ill be unable to connect. any thoughts?
#3651 [22:11] <JohnEBH> I won't*
#3652 [22:11] <JohnEBH> Fail
#3653 [22:12] <JohnEBH> bernard- Temporary problem? Try again later? xD
#3654 [22:12] <Omega_Guardian> far as I know about that SC2 LAN thing, they could enable it in a minute, but simply refuse to...cause...uhhh
#3655 [22:12] <JohnEBH> bernard- Working fine for me. So yeah, just wait a while
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#3657 [22:12] <bernard> i have waited for actually 10 minutes and retried but it never works
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#3659 [22:13] <gentoob> howdy
#3660 [22:13] <JohnEBH> bernard- Any changes to your PC after the last time it worked?
#3661 [22:14] <bernard> i re downloaded it after i deleted my original one ( which worked all the time)
#3662 [22:15] <bernard> the minecraft launcher of course
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#3664 [22:15] <gentoob> i'm running java 1.6 (v22), minecraft works on this machine booted to windows, glxgears works great, clean game install and i get http://pastebin.com/n6xpNQA6
#3665 [22:15] <gentoob> what might be wrong?
#3666 [22:15] <JohnEBH> bernard- try playing on the website and see if it works =P
#3667 [22:15] <JohnEBH> gentoob- Update Java to update 30
#3668 [22:15] <gentoob> oookidokie
#3669 [22:15] <JohnEBH> gentoob- That could help
#3670 [22:16] <gentoob> i'll give it a try
#3671 [22:16] <Nichii> Hey guys when there is a moment I have a question?
#3672 [22:16] <bernard> well i gtg ill try and figure it out tomorrow
#3673 [22:17] <JohnEBH> Nichii- Just ask
#3674 [22:18] * |Kiikun| dances around with an efficiency 2 pickaxe :D and a fire aspect bane of arthropods sword
#3674 [22:18] <Nichii> ok so I have minecraft. I havent played in a good while but ran fine, great in fact. I download the newer version and the box comes up but I cant see anything. If I click then it redirects to the minecraft website, so Im assuming Im blindly clicking on buttons. I did some research, tried various versions of java after reading some posts to no avail. I can run through the website fine though
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#3676 [22:19] * JohnEBH installs essentials and enchants every items I can think of
#3676 [22:20] <JohnEBH> Nichii- Don't quite understand your issue
#3677 [22:20] <JohnEBH> Nichii- Basically you can't see anything in the Launcher?
#3678 [22:20] <Kealper> <SHAMELESS PLUG>new Minecraft IRC official server, not completely done setting it up yet but eventually... lol mc.minecraftirc.net </SHAMELESS PLUG>
#3679 [22:20] <Nichii> yeah
#3680 [22:20] <JohnEBH> Nichii- Or you can log in and you get hit with a black screen?
#3681 [22:20] <Nichii> in a nutshell
#3682 [22:20] <Nichii> no
#3683 [22:21] <Nichii> I cant login because I cant even enter my info lol
#3684 [22:21] <JohnEBH> That's strange >< Very...
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#3686 [22:21] <Nichii> The box where it would normally be is just filled with whatever window was on top of it
#3687 [22:21] <|Kiikun|> Kealper: if you didnt have that @ i woudl be tempted to kick for advertising :P
#3688 [22:21] <Kealper> lol
#3689 [22:21] * |Kiikun| kicks Kealper in the shin anyway!
#3689 [22:22] <Kealper> it isn't advertising because it's this channel's server anways :o
#3690 [22:22] <Kealper> well, this channel and the other official minecraft channels
#3691 [22:22] <|Kiikun|> yess....
#3692 [22:22] <JohnEBH> Nichii- What was the last MC version you played?
#3693 [22:22] <|Kiikun|> and i take it is got mods up down and around the bend?
#3694 [22:22] <JohnEBH> IT IS?
#3695 [22:22] <Kealper> |Kiikun|: ohgoshyes
#3696 [22:22] * |Kiikun| sticks with topcraftia for now :P
#3696 [22:23] <Kealper> there is no way we'd let a vanilla server loose to #minecraft lol
#3697 [22:23] <Nichii> really old emmmm
#3698 [22:23] <Kealper> well, just protection-related mods that is
#3699 [22:23] <JohnEBH> ??> Nichii win/dxdiag
#3700 [22:23] <VoxelHead> Nichii: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3701 [22:23] <VoxelHead> Nichii: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3702 [22:23] <Kealper> it's still a survival server lol
#3703 [22:23] <|Kiikun|> Nichii: did the version of minecraft you played have redstone?
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#3705 [22:24] <Nichii> redstone? I dont think so. It was a christmas gift last year I think not sure the version. The older minecraft.exe loads fine but no info and it fails to connect to minecraft.net. It is why I downloaded the newer version but like I said havent played in a good while
#3706 [22:25] <JohnEBH> No redstone...
#3707 [22:25] <JohnEBH> That is old.
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#3709 [22:25] <Nichii> ok here is my dxdiag this will be lengthy
#3710 [22:26] <|Kiikun|> was called magic dust at one point i think...
#3711 [22:27] <Derpguy> What does this error code mean? Internal client error: java.net.UnknowHostException: session.minecraft.net
#3712 [22:27] <Derpguy> it pops up when i try to play multiplayer
#3713 [22:27] <Nichii> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 12/15/2011, 22:23:33 Machine name: NICHII-PC Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. System Model: G73Jw BIOS: BIOS Date: 10/30/09 15:13:23 Ver: 08.00.1
#3714 [22:28] <|Kiikun|> :pastebin > Nichii
#3715 [22:28] <WugBot> Nichii: (pastebin) Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#3716 [22:28] <|Kiikun|> Derpguy: and Unknown Host Exception means java couldnt resovle the host to an ip to beable to connect to it.
#3717 [22:28] <Derpguy> So, how can i fix that?
#3718 [22:29] <|Kiikun|> Derpguy: firewall/ av is probably blockign it.
#3719 [22:29] <Derpguy> Okay, thanks
#3720 [22:29] <Nichii> sorry guys
#3721 [22:29] <Nichii> http://pastebin.com/BJ8T5sA4
#3722 [22:29] <|Kiikun|> Derpguy: java 7 is also known to do that too.
#3723 [22:30] <Derpguy> So, i need to disable the firewall or something?
#3724 [22:30] <|Kiikun|> Derpguy: AND finally, if you previously pirated the game, theres a chance your hosts file was edited.
#3725 [22:30] <|Kiikun|> Derpguy: you can test if its the firewall/av by temporarilly disablign it
#3726 [22:30] <Choroid> Hmm.
#3727 [22:30] <Choroid> Has anbody else installed Essentials on their server?
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#3731 [22:35] <Redd> Hi everyone. I'm having a problem with my Minecraft Game. Would someone be willing to help?
#3732 [22:35] <gentoob> gentoo doesn't yet have a package for java 1.6.30, but does for 1.6.29, i've upgraded to that and i get the exact same failure (i'm pretty sure 1.6.30 should be working fine)
#3733 [22:36] <gentoob> pastebin'ing again for reference
#3734 [22:38] <gentoob> this is from the minecraft launcher window: http://pastebin.com/VxM43TCY
#3735 [22:38] <gentoob> and this is from the command line: http://pastebin.com/hkXsdWvP
#3736 [22:38] * gentoob waits for a response
#3736 [22:39] <gentoob> sorry, i said 30 should be working fine, what i meant was, 29* should be working
#3737 [22:39] <gentoob> also, i could get java and 'install' by hand (to get 30), but i doubt that's the problem at this point
#3738 [22:39] <Redd> I recently created a Minecraft Multiplayer Server, and my friends can't seem to mine or break any blocks. I've searched all over the net, and none of the solutions so far have worked.
#3739 [22:40] <Redd> Any ideas?
#3740 [22:40] <gentoob> Redd: sounds like your in the spawn area
#3741 [22:40] <gentoob> Redd: doesn't happen on solo play
#3742 [22:40] <gentoob> Redd: move 20 or 30 blocks away (not just down or up)
#3743 [22:40] <gentoob> and try
#3744 [22:40] <Redd> Well, they tried moving away, and that didn't help either.
#3745 [22:40] <Redd> What's weird though is that I can mine, but they can't.
#3746 [22:41] <gentoob> running any server mods?
#3747 [22:42] <Redd> Modloader is on, as is TooManyItems.
#3748 [22:42] <gentoob> Redd: i would try without mods first
#3749 [22:42] <gentoob> Redd: if that works, then blame the mods
#3750 [22:43] <Redd> I'll do that now. Thank you.
#3751 [22:43] <gentoob> no problme
#3752 [22:43] <gentoob> em*
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#3754 [22:44] <Nichii> anyone have any idea? sorry for posting the log here
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#3756 [22:51] <zucchini> minecraft wont install just gives me the login screen and its not even installed.
#3757 [22:53] <sugoi> zucchini: you are running the launcher it sounds like
#3758 [22:53] <sugoi> zucchini: you have to login with a premium (paid) account, then it will install and play
#3759 [22:54] <JohnEBH> Nichii- Delete everything Minecraft related, then redownload the launcher and try
#3760 [22:54] <JohnEBH> Nichii- %appdata% in the searchbar and delete .minecraft
#3761 [22:54] <JohnEBH> Nichii- And yeah from there you should know what you need to do ><
#3762 [22:54] <Nichii> already tried it unfortunately
#3763 [22:55] <zucchini> mee too
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#3767 [22:56] <mib_ywzjpx> my old minecraft username and password isnt working?
#3768 [22:56] <sugoi> mib_ywzjpx: what is your username?
#3769 [22:56] <zucchini> deleted the %appdata% it starts to try and login and its not installed
#3770 [22:56] <sugoi> zucchini: username?
#3771 [22:56] <zucchini> Loak
#3772 [22:57] <sugoi> !paid Loak
#3773 [22:57] <zucchini> yup
#3774 [22:57] <sugoi> zucchini: what happens after you login?
#3775 [22:57] <Nichii> deleted that updated my drivers to latest ver, the window comes up but I cant see anything in it. Yet it runs from browser fine
#3776 [22:57] <zucchini> EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION
#3777 [22:57] <zucchini> EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION
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#3779 [22:58] <zucchini> fails to connect to site
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#3781 [22:59] <sugoi> zucchini: what version of java?
#3782 [23:01] <Nichii> I've tried both here
#3783 [23:01] <zucchini> 64 bit latest update
#3784 [23:01] <sugoi> zucchini: latest as in 7?
#3785 [23:01] <sugoi> zucchini: 7 is no good for minecraft
#3786 [23:01] <sugoi> zucchini: get 6
#3787 [23:01] <sugoi> :j
#3788 [23:01] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#3789 [23:01] <zucchini> wow
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#3793 [23:02] <zucchini> installing java
#3794 [23:02] <sugoi> ok guys, answer me this one
#3795 [23:03] <sugoi> playing minecraft from linux now, same user, same world
#3796 [23:03] <sugoi> but my person has nothing
#3797 [23:03] <sugoi> as if it isn't me, as if i'm in as a new user
#3798 [23:03] <sugoi> except, it's white listed
#3799 [23:03] <sugoi> only difference, new client machine
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#3802 [23:04] <Redd> I'm back, and not victorious.
#3803 [23:04] <sugoi> Redd: vanilla server
#3804 [23:04] <Redd> ?
#3805 [23:04] <sugoi> Redd: and still cannot break blocks?
#3806 [23:04] <Redd> Nope.
#3807 [23:04] <sugoi> Redd: can they place blocks?
#3808 [23:04] <Redd> No.
#3809 [23:05] <sugoi> boy
#3810 [23:05] <sugoi> i dunno
#3811 [23:05] <sugoi> :)
#3812 [23:05] <Redd> This is funny though, I'm trying to hold my temper, and I'm about to lose it completely.
#3813 [23:05] <Redd> All day, I've been trying to figure this out.
#3814 [23:06] <Redd> I tried giving him OP, I tried whitelisting him, I tried a thing called Bukkit, and just now, removing mods, and NOTHING worked.
#3815 [23:06] <sugoi> 'a thing called bukkit' :) it's kinda popular :)
#3816 [23:06] <Redd> I couldn't figure it out for the life of me.
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#3818 [23:07] <JohnEBH> Redd- Could it be that you can't handle hosting a server?
#3819 [23:07] <Wug> Redd: is this you or other people
#3820 [23:07] <Redd> Other people.
#3821 [23:07] <JohnEBH> [22:39] <Redd> I recently created a Minecraft Multiplayer Server, and my friends can't seem to mine or break any blocks. I've searched all over the net, and none of the solutions so far have worked.
#3822 [23:07] <Wug> and are they idiots who think breaking blocks works like it did in classic
#3823 [23:08] <Redd> I don't think so. They said they've played before.
#3824 [23:08] <Wug> tell them to click and hold anyway
#3825 [23:08] <Wug> if they said that and they meant classic
#3826 [23:08] <Redd> They were. I watched them do it.
#3827 [23:08] <Wug> no idea then
#3828 [23:08] <sugoi> Redd: do the block break and reappear?
#3829 [23:08] <Redd> Yeah.
#3830 [23:08] <Wug> do they have mods?
#3831 [23:09] <Wug> make them uninstall them
#3832 [23:09] <Redd> Not sure.
#3833 [23:09] <sugoi> Redd: have you tried your account from their network?
#3834 [23:09] <Redd> No.
#3835 [23:09] <Wug> try that
#3836 [23:09] <sugoi> Redd: it could be bandwidth...
#3837 [23:09] <sugoi> Redd: you could have very bad upload speed
#3838 [23:09] <sugoi> very bad == not sufficient
#3839 [23:09] <Redd> For the record, I'm using Verizon FiOS.
#3840 [23:10] <sugoi> Redd: :) that's what i use
#3841 [23:10] <sugoi> 35/35
#3842 [23:10] <sugoi> it handles 4 users in different states just fine
#3843 [23:10] <sugoi> i dont host many :) just close friends
#3844 [23:11] <Redd> This is only one person though.
#3845 [23:11] <Redd> I just asked him if he's using mods though.
#3846 [23:11] <Nichii> ok so tried the older version of java still nothing. Everytime it is the same thing. Computer hangs a bit then the java icon comes up on the task bar, and a black window. Clicking on the icon on taskbar and the screen flickers a bit but nothing. Clicking on the empy window usually sends to the minecraft website
#3847 [23:12] <sugoi> Redd: i hear you...i would try it yourself, on your computer, with your account, on his network
#3848 [23:12] <sugoi> see what happens
#3849 [23:12] <sugoi> Redd: is that an option?
#3850 [23:12] <Redd> Nope.
#3851 [23:13] <Redd> I wonder...one person mentioned the program I'm using (Hamachi) is bad. I wonder if that's it.
#3852 [23:13] <Redd> I wonder...one person mentioned the program I'm using (Hamachi) is bad. I wonder if that's it.
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#3856 [23:18] <sugoi> bad? i've used hamachi, works fine
#3857 [23:19] <Redd> Then I will assume that that's not the problem.
#3858 [23:19] <sugoi> Redd: i don't use hamachi anymore tho, i port forward connections to my server
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#3860 [23:19] <Redd> I know nothing about Port Forwarding. I could never figure it out.
#3861 [23:20] <zucchini> mine craft wont install even after i changed java, erased all evidence of minecraft game
#3862 [23:22] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: you on?
#3863 [23:22] <sugoi> sorry guys, i've exhausted my ideas
#3864 [23:23] <sugoi> but i'm just a noob, only been on this channel for a few days
#3865 [23:23] <Redd> (Dies) 5 Hours and nothing to show for it. :(
#3866 [23:23] <Redd> Man, I hate when stuff doesn't work right. lol
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#3869 [23:28] <Redd> Alright, I'm out. I'm gonna keep working at it though. Thanks for the help. Bye. :)
#3870 [23:28] <Redd> Alright, I'm out. I'm gonna keep working at it though. Thanks for the help. Bye. :)
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#3874 [23:31] <squiggy> i cannot get the log in screen to stay up the first time long enough to activate the game. it keeps disappearing.
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#3877 [23:42] <downedserver> hello?
#3878 [23:43] <downedserver> ???
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#3881 [23:48] <Nichii> ok. after trying different versions of java again and reinstalling after deleting the java folder I get the loader to display but it just laggs out