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#3 [00:06] <bellows> hello
#4 [00:06] <bellows> any minecraft server hosting expert here?
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#6 [00:25] <sugoi> bellows: i host, but what makes one an expert?
#7 [00:25] <bellows> actually anyone that can host is already an expert for me
#8 [00:26] <bellows> well i was good in my home hosting but them the server started to get a little crowded
#9 [00:26] <bellows> so i bought an host but i have no idea how to upload my files
#10 [00:27] <bellows> do you know what im talking about?
#11 [00:33] <bellows> cry sadly
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#17 [00:51] <Redd> Anyone alive in here? I just wanted to let you all know that I got my problem fixed.
#18 [00:56] * mau5ie applauds
#18 [00:56] <bellows> im alwys here
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#20 [00:56] <bellows> always
#21 [00:56] <bellows> wait a sec im laning with a heimerdinger for mid
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#31 [01:19] <bellows> what keep you guys motivated to come here everyday?
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#38 [01:46] <minecraft_guest89585> Hi
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#41 [01:53] <mudpit> hi my minicraft won;t log in
#42 [01:53] <mudpit> everytime i try i fail im using Java (TM) 16 update
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#46 [02:10] <bellows> sorry i dk
#47 [02:11] <Wug> <bellows> what keep you guys motivated to come here everyday?
#48 [02:11] <Wug> good question
#49 [02:11] <[L]> It is
#50 [02:11] <[L]> I'm simply here for channel moderation and management
#51 [02:11] <Kealper> that's almost how i feel by now
#52 [02:11] <Kealper> almost...
#53 [02:11] <Wug> ... where is grey
#54 [02:12] <[L]> Every now and then I will come and help some users.
#55 [02:12] <Wug> oh, esper derped him
#56 [02:12] <bellows> god bless you L
#57 [02:12] <Wug> I enjoy helping people
#58 [02:12] <[L]> What
#59 [02:12] <bellows> thats a good thing
#60 [02:12] <Wug> sometimes people here irritate the crap out of me
#61 [02:13] <[L]> Don't care.
#62 [02:13] <Wug> but there something about when people freak out because you fixed it
#63 [02:13] <Kealper> ^
#64 [02:13] <bellows> you guys saved my life SO MANY TIMES
#65 [02:14] <Wug> grey is pretty awesome about doing that
#66 [02:14] <[L]> Someone whos praising us?
#67 [02:14] <[L]> This is new.
#68 [02:14] <Wug> hes been here for much longer than any of the other regular helpers
#69 [02:14] <Wug> I wonder why he comes here
#70 [02:14] <bellows> me?
#71 [02:14] <Kealper> [L]: it happens occasionally, but most of the praise goes to VoxelHead
#72 [02:14] <[L]> :l
#73 [02:14] <Wug> no, greyvulpine
#74 [02:15] <bellows> i love you all
#75 [02:15] <Wug> there is no way he could juggle the amount of attention he gives this channel and like ... anything else
#76 [02:15] <Wug> :mch/stats
#77 [02:15] <WugBot> mch/stats: http://statistics.minecraftirc.net/minecrafthelp.html
#78 [02:15] <Kealper> Wug: i think he isn't human :o
#79 [02:15] <Wug> lol hes a bot
#80 [02:15] <Wug> that explains everything
#81 [02:16] <Wug> Kealper: you can rejoin ##WugBotDev
#82 [02:16] <Kealper> do i gotsta
#83 [02:16] <Wug> I only needed you out so I could regain op
#84 [02:16] <Wug> well, I fixeded it a bit
#85 [02:16] <Wug> you dont hafta I spose
#86 [02:16] <Kealper> i like keeping my channel list clean :o
#87 [02:16] <Wug> lol
#88 [02:16] * Wug is in like 35 channels between here and freenode
#88 [02:17] <Wug> YOU GUYS SHOULD COME TO MY HACKATHON CHANNEL
#89 [02:17] <mau5ie> lol it's a bot?
#90 [02:17] <Wug> im in a hackathon right now.
#91 [02:17] <Wug> did you know that
#92 [02:17] <Wug> I'm actually working on the bot
#93 [02:17] <Wug> I've gotten some interesting feedback from people waaaay more programming elite than myself
#94 [02:17] <Wug> its #floss on freenode
#95 [02:18] <Kealper> floss? lol
#96 [02:18] <Wug> #floss-seminar **
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#98 [02:18] <Wug> Kealper: you should totally go
#99 [02:18] <Wug> you do in fact gotsta
#100 [02:18] <Kealper> but a hackathon means lots of people who would not consider me a real programmer
#101 [02:19] <Wug> lol 'sokay
#102 [02:19] <Kealper> as i'm sure lots of people there go "lolautoit" and "lolgo"
#103 [02:19] <Wug> its mostly over at this point
#104 [02:19] <Wug> go is cool
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#106 [02:19] <Wug> I really want to learn it
#107 [02:19] <Kealper> go is awesome, it compiles so fast :o
#108 [02:20] <Wug> xales is doing his new bot thingy in go
#109 [02:20] <Kealper> compiles/links, i should say
#110 [02:20] <Kealper> indeed
#111 [02:20] <xales> I hate you all
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#113 [02:20] <Wug> hi xales
#114 [02:20] <xales> every time I come on for 2 seconds
#115 [02:20] <xales> someone manages to ping me
#116 [02:20] <xales> I have no idea how this happens
#117 [02:20] <Kealper> XD
#118 [02:20] <Wug> you should join #floss-seminar on freenode
#119 [02:20] <bellows> hmm
#120 [02:21] <Kealper> wahey! kealper is a registered nick
#121 [02:21] <mau5ie> o/ xales
#122 [02:21] <Wug> Kealper: did you register it
#123 [02:21] <xales> \o mau5ie
#124 [02:21] <Kealper> 02:22:05 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- You are now identified for Kealper.
#125 [02:22] <Wug> apparently lol
#126 [02:22] <Kealper> man, i'm surprised they keep accounts for that long lol
#127 [02:22] <mau5ie> Uh.
#128 [02:22] <mau5ie> Freenode keeps them forever.
#129 [02:22] <Wug> I think freenode only lets accounts expire upon request
#130 [02:22] <Kealper> haven't used freenode in atleast a year :o
#131 [02:22] <mau5ie> Afaik, there's no expiry.
#132 [02:22] <Kealper> wow, that database has to be huge
#133 [02:22] * mau5ie nods
#133 [02:22] <Wug> you can request that an account be expired and it will happen after some number of weels
#134 [02:22] <Wug> weeks*
#135 [02:22] <Wug> and freenode is gigantic
#136 [02:22] <Wug> in case you hadn't noticed -.-
#137 [02:23] <Kealper> hence database has t obe used lol
#138 [02:23] <Kealper> to be*
#139 [02:23] <Wug> I'm bringing my bot to there
#140 [02:23] <Kealper> aubot has seen some freenoding before :o
#141 [02:23] <Kealper> and some efnetting
#142 [02:23] <Kealper> heck, even justin.tv's irc servers lol
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#145 [02:25] <xales> Kealper: jtv? ustream is the ones who do that
#146 [02:25] <Kealper> jtv's chat is irc as well
#147 [02:25] <xales> orly.
#148 [02:25] <xales> ustream is actually the biggest "irc network"
#149 [02:25] <xales> ._.
#150 [02:26] <xales> see: netsplit.de
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#152 [02:26] <Kealper> is it really? lol
#153 [02:26] <xales> well
#154 [02:26] <xales> it *used* to be, by a significant amount
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#156 [02:26] <xales> but I think netsplit is ignoring most not-actually-chatting-just-vieweing people
#157 [02:26] <xales> now
#158 [02:27] <xales> Kealper: http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/top100.php
#159 [02:27] <Kealper> cheebus quakenet is huge
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#162 [02:28] <Kealper> i would absolutely love to see total bandwidth usage for quakenet lol
#163 [02:28] <xales> Kealper: quakenet is only big because it's VIDEOGAMES VIDEOGAMES VIDEOGAMES 29/12
#164 [02:29] <xales> (24/7 not good enough for them!)
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#166 [02:29] <Kealper> lol
#167 [02:30] <xales> also, many of them are probably...12
#168 [02:31] <clarjon1> or 29
#169 [02:31] <clarjon1> xD
#170 [02:31] <xales> lol
#171 [02:31] <xales> and it's pretty well known:
#172 [02:31] <xales> if you want to talk about smart things, go to Freenode
#173 [02:31] <xales> if you want to talk about games, go to Quakenet
#174 [02:31] <xales> otherwise, go whereever you want
#175 [02:32] <Kealper> lol
#176 [02:33] <xales> oh, Kealper
#177 [02:33] <Kealper> oh, xales
#178 [02:33] <xales> I'm writing an IRC bot...or, well, *planning* to
#179 [02:33] <xales> in Go, and scripting it in Lua
#180 [02:33] <Kealper> the go one that you already talked about?
#181 [02:33] <xales> I don't love Lua syntactically, but
#182 [02:33] <xales> it has great answers to all the python "gotchas"
#183 [02:33] <xales> like multithreading and sandboxing
#184 [02:33] <Kealper> lol
#185 [02:33] <xales> that are particularly useful in an IRC bot
#186 [02:34] <xales> python = impossible to sandbox, even with a completely different implementation it's hard
#187 [02:34] <xales> Lua = fucking easy as hell
#188 [02:34] <xales> basically
#189 [02:34] <xales> local cantdoshit = {}
#190 [02:34] <xales> thatCode.run(cantdoshit)
#191 [02:34] <xales> the cantdoshit table becomes it's globals
#192 [02:34] <xales> so it can't load stuff, it can't call anything
#193 [02:35] <Kealper> :o
#194 [02:35] <xales> as there are literally no symbols
#195 [02:36] <xales> Kealper: hahaha
#196 [02:36] <xales> Kealper: http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/details.php?net=Ustream&submenu=years
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#198 [02:36] <xales> Kealper: lol minecraft http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/details.php?net=EsperNet&submenu=years
#199 [02:38] <Kealper> esper has more users than ustream? :o
#200 [02:39] <xales> wat
#201 [02:39] <Kealper> i'm derp, carry on
#202 [02:40] <xales> yes
#203 [02:40] <Kealper> i seen ustream's channels and it was just over 4k, and my derping brain parsed it as users
#204 [02:40] <xales> .-.
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#208 [02:44] <xales> Kealper: also, because I'm writing the bot in Go, it can have a web interface and make Scott happy ._.
#209 [02:45] <xales> as well as doing whatever pastey stuff he wants
#210 [02:45] <Kealper> rofl
#211 [02:45] <xales> Kealper: ever used nginx
#212 [02:45] <Kealper> noep
#213 [02:45] <xales> location /bot {
#214 [02:46] <xales> proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8081
#215 [02:46] <xales> }
#216 [02:46] <xales> then if I go to http://thatserver/bot
#217 [02:46] <xales> it will proxy it to the local server, on port 8081
#218 [02:47] <xales> (it does a whole lot more, of course, but that's why you might find it useful)
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#220 [02:47] <xales> I don't know if it can run under windows, though...
#221 [02:47] <xales> or at least, not well enough
#222 [02:47] <xales> I believe it uses kqueue/epoll/poll/somethingWindowsdoesn'thave
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#224 [02:48] <Kealper> lol
#225 [02:48] <xales> olo
#226 [02:48] <Scott> It uses epoll()
#227 [02:48] <Kealper> so... i has question about httpds
#228 [02:48] <Scott> which makes it fail on openvz
#229 [02:48] <xales> Scott: yay
#230 [02:48] <Scott> because openvz can't use epoll()
#231 [02:48] <xales> Scott: down with shitteyvz!
#232 [02:48] <Scott> Despite there being many issues with it, people still support it
#233 [02:49] <Scott> By the way, can you fix my access in #minecraft and give me op in here?
#234 [02:49] <xales> also, Kealper, Go's performance with some stuff is super-shitty, even almost-as-slow-as-Java in some cases
#235 [02:49] <xales> Scott: fix it how?
#236 [02:49] <Scott> I can't access akick or other services stuff
#237 [02:49] <xales> however, Kealper, in the repository it's fixed right now
#238 [02:49] <nidge> been trying to play for the last 2 days and the screen just goes white this is on a pc and a mac any thoughts please
#239 [02:49] <xales> so always use the weekly build, or just compile the latest stuff in the repository
#240 [02:49] <Kealper> now... apache has like... a crapton of threads, is each thread just sitting there waiting for the main thread to give it a connection to work on, and that is the only thing that thread can work on?
#241 [02:49] <xales> nidge: have you tried to install any mods?
#242 [02:49] <Scott> nidge: I will help you with the mac.
#243 [02:50] <xales> Kealper: Apache has worker processes, not threads
#244 [02:50] <xales> at least, in almost all cases
#245 [02:50] <Scott> I am the mac expert here apparently.
#246 [02:50] <Scott> I need to get certified so I can say that with actual proof.
#247 [02:50] <xales> Scott: WORK AT THE GEEK BAR (or whatever it's called)
#248 [02:51] <Scott> genius bar
#249 [02:51] <xales> same thing.
#250 [02:51] <Kealper> xales: apache uses the term "worker threads" in winderp, and it does start up 256 threads (and i have it set to 256 workers in the config)
#251 [02:51] <Scott> and to be honest, that sounds like fun
#252 [02:51] <Scott> I'm tired of IT.
#253 [02:51] <Scott> That's not as ITish
#254 [02:51] <xales> Kealper: the default distribution uses the threaded model, but to *do* anything with apache, you can't use threads
#255 [02:51] <nidge> are texture packs mods, this is used by a 12 year old and a 45 year old is now trying to fix it
#256 [02:52] <xales> nidge: if, after trying to install a texture pack, it stops working, then the texture pack is the problem
#257 [02:52] <Kealper> back to the question lol... what i mean to say... is apache doing that because it's using synchronous sockets? i've heard that stuff like nginx is stupidfast because it does async sockets and stuff
#258 [02:52] <Scott> xales: For future reference, Mac Genius Bar techs are paid nearly twice as much as geek squad peoples.
#259 [02:52] <Kealper> Scott: jeebus
#260 [02:52] <xales> Scott: shocking! notreally
#261 [02:53] <xales> nidge: try removing the texture pack. let Scott know if you need help with doing that
#262 [02:53] <Scott> Actually, I would suggest you just delete everything but your saves and let it redownload.
#263 [02:53] <Scott> We don't support mods here so we can't really help you if they screw up the game.
#264 [02:54] <nidge> we've used it since the texture pack was installed
#265 [02:56] <nidge> is there a default or reset to take the game back to its basic settings
#266 [02:57] <xales> nidge: sort of, yes
#267 [02:57] * xales pokes Scott
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#270 [02:59] <Kealper> ohgosh, aperture.esper.net has almost accepted 1,000,000 connections :o
#271 [02:59] <Scott> blargh
#272 [02:59] <Scott> my modem just lost sync
#273 [02:59] <Scott> I had to activate 4G
#274 [02:59] <Scott> sorry
#275 [03:00] <Kealper> and there are 2700 channels on esper lol
#276 [03:00] * Kealper shuts up now
#276 [03:00] <Scott> nidge: do you want me to tell you how to reinstall the game?
#277 [03:01] <Scott> xales: Can I make a call and use data at the same time on HSPA+?
#278 [03:01] <Scott> (with enhanced backhaul)
#279 [03:01] <nidge> yes please Scott its worth a try
#280 [03:02] <xales> Scott: uhh, I don't remember
#281 [03:02] <Scott> hmm
#282 [03:02] <Scott> it appears I can
#283 [03:02] <Scott> bleh, i'll wait a few minutes before I call tech support
#284 [03:03] <Scott> anyways nidge, open Finder and press command + shift + g
#285 [03:03] <Scott> A box will pop up, paste this and press enter: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#286 [03:03] <Scott> You can delete everything but saves, stats, and servers.dat.
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#288 [03:07] <Scott> Grrr
#289 [03:07] <Scott> dumbasses
#290 [03:07] <Scott> I called and they said they will do maintenance from 3 to 5 am
#291 [03:07] <Scott> It's not 3 am!
#292 [03:08] <Kealper> it's 3am here :>
#293 [03:08] <Scott> I had no issues at all the first month I had this.
#294 [03:08] <Scott> I have several outages per month now :/
#295 [03:08] <Scott> I miss DSL ._.
#296 [03:09] <Kealper> are you just using 4g wireless right now?
#297 [03:09] <xales> Scott: satellllite
#298 [03:09] <Scott> Yes
#299 [03:09] <Scott> xales: lol
#300 [03:09] <Kealper> eew, satellllllllite has like 1500ms pings
#301 [03:09] <Scott> 4G is better and cheaper than satellite
#302 [03:09] <Kealper> got rot in a hole vox
#303 [03:09] <Scott> You got another server, xales?
#304 [03:10] <xales> what makes you think that?
#305 [03:10] <xales> (no)
#306 [03:10] <Scott> xales.info
#307 [03:10] <xales> I've always had xales.info
#308 [03:10] <xales> okay, what the fuck
#309 [03:10] <Scott> No but your server went down during your hiatus didn't you?
#310 [03:10] <Scott> it*
#311 [03:10] <Kealper> his server never went down, it's internet was pulled ._.
#312 [03:12] <Scott> that sounds… weird!
#313 [03:12] <xales> lovely twoandtwo
#314 [03:12] <Scott> I don't know why you continue to use them :(
#315 [03:12] <xales> contract
#316 [03:12] <xales> >.>
#317 [03:13] <nidge> thanks will give it a try but off to bed now night shift worker checking out night night
#318 [03:14] <Scott> With my discount at work, their offerings are absolute crap lol
#319 [03:15] <Scott> my connection is back up it seems
#320 [03:15] <Scott> i'm switching back to cable brb
#321 [03:16] <Scott> ok hi
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#323 [03:19] <Scott> xales Kealper
#324 [03:20] <Scott> you are ignoring me :(
#325 [03:20] * Scott cries.
#325 [03:20] <Kealper> wat
#326 [03:20] * Kealper reads up
#326 [03:20] * xales licks Scott's feet
#326 [03:20] <Scott> They are clean and should smell like strawberries.
#327 [03:20] <Scott> So you would enjoy.
#328 [03:20] <xales> :O
#329 [03:20] <Kealper> :O
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#331 [03:20] <Kealper> ^ lol
#332 [03:21] <Scott> I'm hungry...
#333 [03:21] <Scott> I didn't eat much today.
#334 [03:21] <Scott> BRB
#335 [03:22] <Hawkhead> I have minecraft I just need help with multiplayer
#336 [03:22] <Kealper> not i, i just polished off almost a whole can of chili and almost a whole package of saltines
#337 [03:22] <Kealper> Hawkhead: what issue are you having?
#338 [03:23] <Scott> Vegetarian chili, I hope.
#339 [03:24] <Hawkhead> how do I play multiplayer
#340 [03:24] <Kealper> nope, full of what was probably a cow at some point (i hope)
#341 [03:24] <Kealper> Hawkhead: well, are you at the game's main screen?
#342 [03:25] <Kealper> Scott: although if it makes you feel better, i have taken a liking to salads recently :o
#343 [03:25] <Hawkhead> yes
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#345 [03:25] <MrDup> Hi all
#346 [03:26] <MrDup> Does someone use Misa texture pack ?
#347 [03:26] <Kealper> Hawkhead: ok, first click on Multiplayer, that takes you to the "favorite servers" type of screen
#348 [03:26] <xales> MrDup: What, exactly, is the problem you are having?
#349 [03:26] <MrDup> Not exactly a problem, need a tip
#350 [03:27] <MrDup> Do you know if there's a traduction of enchantments for Misa's texture pack ?
#351 [03:27] <Scott> Kealper: For future reference, you can't tell a difference between vegetarian chili and meaty chili.
#352 [03:27] <Kealper> Scott: i might have to try it some time then :O
#353 [03:27] <Scott> Or at least my grandfather can't. ;)
#354 [03:27] <xales> Unfortunately, if it's something regarding third-party content, it's not likely that one of us will be able to help, as it's not officially supported, and it's too hard to us to know everything about all the various third-party content
#355 [03:27] * Scott evil laughs.
#355 [03:27] <MrDup> The symbols in the enchantment table are different than default.
#356 [03:27] <Kealper> lol
#357 [03:27] <Hawkhead> yes
#358 [03:28] <MrDup> Oh
#359 [03:28] <MrDup> Ok
#360 [03:28] <MrDup> It was just in case that someone use it.
#361 [03:29] <Kealper> Hawkhead: anyways, once you get to that screen, you'll need to find a server that you would like to play on... i can give you one that someone here runs, or you can check online for others (a quick google search for "minecraft multiplayer server" will probably get a lot of results)
#362 [03:29] <MrDup> Do you know if there's another chan on Esper I can connect to to have some help about this ?
#363 [03:30] <xales> MrDup: The best idea would be Googling it, or asking on the forum
#364 [03:30] <xales> as it's a pretty specific question
#365 [03:30] <Hawkhead> the screen just says "play multiplayer"
#366 [03:31] <MrDup> I google it for about 1 hour and didn't found answer I need. :/
#367 [03:31] <Scott> weee
#368 [03:31] <MrDup> I think I'll ask Misa with PM on the forum.
#369 [03:32] <Kealper> Hawkhead: there should be a few buttons, like add server, quick connect, and others
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#371 [03:32] <MrDup> Thanks xales. :)
#372 [03:32] <Scott> Freshly made tortilla chips and salsa :D
#373 [03:32] * Kealper is jealous
#373 [03:32] <Kealper> i dun have any salsa
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#375 [03:35] <Hawkhead> ....
#376 [03:35] <Kealper> Hawkhead: are you seeing the buttons i mentioned?
#377 [03:36] <Hawkhead> yes
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#379 [03:37] <Kealper> Hawkhead: ok, click to add a new server, and for the server name put "Shadow-Craft" without quotes, and for the address put "smp.shadow-craft.net" without quotes again... that'll let you see if you can connect and get on servers and stuff (although i think if you actually want to build on that one you will have to make an account on their site)
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#382 [03:42] <Kealper> xales: the mc irc channels have an official server now that isn't quite set up yet :o
#383 [03:42] * xales herd
#383 [03:43] * Kealper needs to find people to stir up interest
#383 [03:43] <xales> :o
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#385 [03:44] <Kealper> it would be kind of neat to be an admin on a slightly large server :o
#386 [03:45] <Wug> Kealper: its hard work
#387 [03:45] <Wug> trust me
#388 [03:45] <Wug> the facebook server >.>
#389 [03:45] <Kealper> ohgosh, that had to be horrible
#390 [03:45] <Kealper> lol
#391 [03:45] <Wug> we had maybe 30 or 40 regulars and almost 4000 unique users
#392 [03:45] <Kealper> wow
#393 [03:45] <xales> ._.
#394 [03:45] <Wug> we get griefers, trolls, and idiots aplenty
#395 [03:46] <Wug> and beggara
#396 [03:46] <Wug> beggars* oh god the beggars
#397 [03:46] <Kealper> lol
#398 [03:46] <xales> what do they beg for
#399 [03:46] <Wug> xales: everything
#400 [03:46] <xales> other than a life or intellect
#401 [03:46] <Kealper> HEY OP CAN HAS DIAMUNDZ?
#402 [03:46] <Kealper> dimundz*
#403 [03:47] <Wug> items, teleports, help building x, help killing y, rank, whatever
#404 [03:47] <Wug> begging for stuff was a bannable offense because it was so goddamn annoying
#405 [03:47] <Scott> The easy way to deal with this is rules and make it clear that the rules are a warning. Breaking them results in permanent ban with no warning.
#406 [03:47] <xales> lol
#407 [03:47] <xales> Scott: yay
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#409 [03:47] <Kealper> yeah, begging for things from ops is already listed on ye olde rule tente
#410 [03:47] <Wug> there was this one guy who begged me for a teleport over 1500 blocks for literally an hour
#411 [03:48] <Wug> he couldve walked 10x that distance in that much time
#412 [03:48] <Kealper> i would have kicked him for that ._.
#413 [03:48] <Wug> I eventually totally lost it and chain kicked him about 10 times with all caps kick messages
#414 [03:48] * xales as you know, would ban them :>
#414 [03:48] <Kealper> oh, there is also the best clause ever in said mcirc server rules....
#415 [03:48] <Wug> he stfu'd after that
#416 [03:48] <Wug> Kealper: "dont be a dick"?
#417 [03:48] <Kealper> that ops can do whatever they see fit, even if not specifically mentioned :>
#418 [03:49] <Wug> we had a don't be a dick rule
#419 [03:49] <Kealper> the "power-hungry" clause
#420 [03:49] <Kealper> we have that too lol
#421 [03:49] <xales> Kealper: because you need it to be in the rules for that to be the case? ll
#422 [03:49] <Wug> borrowed from somewhere online, mightve been the escapist forums
#423 [03:49] <Kealper> xales: well, it's more of just a heads-up, so they know beforehand lol
#424 [03:50] <xales> they should know
#425 [03:50] <Wug> "rule #1: dont be a dick. This rule is the first and last rule to apply. if you think you have found a loophole in some other rule, it is covered by this one."
#426 [03:50] <Kealper> xD
#427 [03:50] <Wug> anyway
#428 [03:50] <xales> "NOTICE: THIS SERVER IS OPERATED BY THE UNITED STATES. YOUR USE OF THIS SERVER IS A RIGHT AND THE OPS MAY NOT BAN YOU UNLESS YOU VIOLATE US CODE (section)15431"
#429 [03:50] <xales> Kealper: :D
#430 [03:51] <Wug> I did the 'admin of large server' thing for a while
#431 [03:51] <Wug> I probably wouldnt do it again without some sort of financial recompense
#432 [03:51] <Wug> I hope the minecraft irc server doesnt turn into that
#433 [03:51] <Scott> Sadly, we won't collect donations.
#434 [03:51] <Scott> At least as long as my work can host it.
#435 [03:51] <xales> Scott: :(
#436 [03:51] <Kealper> "NOTICE: THIS SERVER IS OPERATED IN THE UNITED STATES. WE ARE SORRY BUT SONY BMG HAS CLAIMED COPYRIGHT OWNERSHIP TO A RANDOM WORD AND WE CAN'T BE ACCESSED DUE TO SOPA."
#437 [03:51] <Kealper> FTFY
#438 [03:52] <xales> lol
#439 [03:52] <Scott> you should see the allgamer.net logo ;)
#440 [03:52] <Scott> you should see the allgamer.net logo ;)
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#442 [03:52] <Wug> I'd gladly play on the server though as long as it isnt full of horrible noobs
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#444 [03:53] <Kealper> Wug: we hope that we can keep it free of those, people can't just join and start griefing, they have to be sort of hand-picked to play on it
#445 [03:53] <Wug> can you do 2 worlds?
#446 [03:53] <Wug> a public one and a whitelist one
#447 [03:53] <Wug> public being for guests
#448 [03:53] <Kealper> if they are not approved, they can only view what is going on
#449 [03:53] <Kealper> Wug: that's up to scott lol
#450 [03:54] <Wug> I did that with ours
#451 [03:54] <Kealper> ultimately he is running the server, i'm just the PR guy :o
#452 [03:54] <Wug> the whitelist one didnt get very much traffic
#453 [03:54] <Scott> http://minecraftirc.net/forms.php?id=1
#454 [03:54] <Kealper> speaking of which
#455 [03:54] <Wug> almost none in fact, everyone played on the other because there were more people and most of the users were very transient
#456 [03:54] <Scott> there's the app to get build privilege
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#458 [03:54] <Wug> I'm already a member
#459 [03:54] <Wug> as it is
#460 [03:55] <Kealper> Scott: guests can still interact with buttons and doors and such :|
#461 [03:55] <Scott> Are you sure?
#462 [03:55] <Scott> I disabled interaction for guests
#463 [03:55] <Kealper> iirc yeah, lemme check with aubot's account
#464 [03:55] * Kealper smells burning laptop already
#464 [03:55] <SinZ> whats the server?
#465 [03:56] <Wug> Scott: is there a stealth op position
#466 [03:56] <SinZ> Scott: whats the IP
#467 [03:56] <Kealper> mc.minecraftirc.net but it's not completely public yet... still has some work to be done
#468 [03:56] <Kealper> oh yeah, and that... Scott it would be nice to have a plugin that would let ops go invisible, so we could catch people in the act of griefing
#469 [03:56] <Wug> If I was to accept any position of rank
#470 [03:57] <xales> Scott: FORM SUBMITTED
#471 [03:57] <Wug> I'd prefer to have the appearance of an ordinary member
#472 [03:57] <Wug> I have not been offered such a position but still
#473 [03:57] <Wug> I enjoy playing minecraft for the gameplay
#474 [03:57] <Scott> Kealper: Actually, there are plugins to record block changes.
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#476 [03:57] <Wug> not for being an admin
#477 [03:57] <Scott> You can revert stuff and determine who did it.
#478 [03:57] <xales> Scott: because that's not a hassle or anything
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#480 [03:58] <Kealper> wow, minecraft 1.0 runs really well on my crappy GMA 950
#481 [03:58] <Kealper> AuBot: what the heck you dumb thing
#482 [03:58] <SinZ> Im a guest, and could use a button
#483 [03:59] <Wug> Scott: do you want me to do vulnerability checking
#484 [03:59] <Scott> well there's a plugin to lock doors
#485 [03:59] <Scott> Wug: it's really not setup
#486 [03:59] <Wug> Scott: I mean in future
#487 [03:59] <Wug> I craft exploits and see if they work
#488 [03:59] <Scott> sure.
#489 [03:59] <Wug> I'd do it from wugbot's account
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#491 [03:59] * xales spoonbombs Wug
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#492 [04:00] * Wug attacks xales with a wabbit
#492 [04:00] <Scott> xales: I am cold :(
#493 [04:00] <Scott> platonic cuddling plz
#494 [04:00] <Wug> Scott: play minecraft + put macbook on chest
#495 [04:00] <xales> Scott: did you read the form I sent? :D
#496 [04:00] <xales> it's fuunny
#497 [04:00] <xales> Wug: \o/
#498 [04:00] <Scott> Wug: My mac doesn't get that warm lol
#499 [04:00] <Wug> Scott: play 4 minecrafts
#500 [04:01] <SinZ> my cpu is at 90C atm
#501 [04:01] <Wug> also holy crap
#502 [04:01] <Wug> I opened my desktop and cleaned the cruft out of it yesterday
#503 [04:01] <xales> SinZ: that's not a good thing
#504 [04:01] <xales> at all.
#505 [04:01] <Wug> hoooollyyy baaallls it was gross
#506 [04:01] <SinZ> I know xales
#507 [04:01] <Wug> I couldnt breathe, it was so dusty
#508 [04:01] <SinZ> http://mca.uk.to/scr/20111216200053.png
#509 [04:01] <Wug> there was like a whole handful of lint and dead bugs
#510 [04:02] <xales> SinZ: your laptop isn't being cooled properly
#511 [04:02] <xales> at all.
#512 [04:02] <Kealper> wow, 90C?
#513 [04:02] <Wug> xales: mine gets that how
#514 [04:02] <Wug> hot*
#515 [04:02] <SinZ> I know that... iv tried fixing it several times
#516 [04:02] <xales> Wug: I have a 2860
#517 [04:02] <Wug> its its shutdown point iirc
#518 [04:02] <Scott> fucking hell i'm cold
#519 [04:02] * AuBot kicked Scott from #minecrafthelp (Reason: cott :Please keep it civil.)
#520 [04:02] <SinZ> im even using a cooling pad right now
#521 [04:02] <Wug> throttles back at 85
#522 [04:02] <xales> and it runs at 0C max
#523 [04:02] <xales> 60*
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#525 [04:02] <Scott> Kealper: make it ignore ops :/
#526 [04:02] <xales> I've nver had it go above 65, while playing a agme
#527 [04:03] <Wug> mine idles at 65
#528 [04:03] <Kealper> my laptop is sitting directly on my bed right now and it's running at 78C with Minecraft and music playing :o
#529 [04:03] <Kealper> Scott: i thought did O.o
#530 [04:03] <Kealper> AuBot: fuck you
#531 [04:03] <xales> compiling kernel with -j9 put it at about 72
#532 [04:03] <xales> but that's the highest it's gone
#533 [04:03] <SinZ> turned off minecraft, its going down
#534 [04:03] <Kealper> !find Scott
#535 [04:03] <SinZ> !find SinZ
#536 [04:03] <Wug> !find wug
#537 [04:03] <xales> !find xales
#538 [04:03] <xales> :<
#539 [04:03] <Wug> !find xales
#540 [04:03] <xales> .auth xales 1
#541 [04:03] <Wug> >:D
#542 [04:03] <Kealper> Scott: it might not have had you in it's list
#543 [04:04] <xales> !find xales
#544 [04:04] <Kealper> xales: wrong module
#545 [04:04] <xales> lol
#546 [04:04] <xales> Kealper: guess not?
#547 [04:04] <Scott> fucking hell
#548 [04:04] * AuBot kicked Scott from #minecrafthelp (Reason: cott :Please keep it civil.)
#549 [04:04] <SinZ> xales: went down 10C turning off minecraft
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#551 [04:04] <Kealper> wat
#552 [04:04] <xales> !find Kealper is a noob
#553 [04:04] <SinZ> !find S1NZ
#554 [04:04] <Wug> !auth wugbot
#555 [04:04] <Wug> !auth wugbot
#556 [04:04] <xales> Wug: it's .auth
#557 [04:04] <SinZ> what does !find do anyway
#558 [04:04] <xales> derpface
#559 [04:04] <Wug> !find wugbot
#560 [04:04] <Wug> derp
#561 [04:04] <Kealper> Scott: one sec, i don't think i have you set as an admin in that module
#562 [04:05] <Wug> wugbot doesnt get aubot auth
#563 [04:05] <Wug> bots using bots is funny and all
#564 [04:05] <Wug> but now that it has its own nickserv account, it doesnt happen
#565 [04:05] <SinZ> SinZBot does not get aubot auth
#566 [04:05] <Wug> and it doesnt need to
#567 [04:05] * Kealper should probably explain what !find is
#567 [04:05] <xales> probably
#568 [04:05] <Wug> Kealper: whats the auto !paid trigger string
#569 [04:05] <SinZ> !paid S1NZ
#570 [04:06] <Kealper> it checks through it's local list of all usernames that are logged in to nickserv
#571 [04:06] <Wug> ;cycle
#572 [04:06] <Wug> ;cycle
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#575 [04:06] <SinZ> im logged into nickserv...
#576 [04:06] <Kealper> Wug: basically lots of stuff
#577 [04:06] <Wug> !find wugbot
#578 [04:06] * Scott is watching burn notice season finale.
#578 [04:06] * Scott is watching burn notice season finale.
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#580 [04:06] <Wug> Kealper: example
#581 [04:06] <SinZ> !find SinZ
#582 [04:07] <Kealper> uhh... such as "what is your minecraft account name?" or "what is your user name"? or "what is your minecraft profile", etc
#583 [04:07] <Wug> wugbot, what is your minecraft username?
#584 [04:07] <Wug> ;+ user? What is your minecraft username?
#585 [04:07] <WugBot> Done.
#586 [04:07] <SinZ> currently, my comp has gone down 20C from turning off minecraft
#587 [04:07] <Wug> lol
#588 [04:08] <SinZ> still dropping I think
#589 [04:08] <Wug> :user? > Scott
#590 [04:08] <WugBot> Scott: (user?) What is your minecraft username?
#591 [04:08] <Wug> no prompt
#592 [04:08] <Wug> :user? > wugbot
#593 [04:08] <WugBot> wugbot: (user?) What is your minecraft username?
#594 [04:08] <SinZ> !paid SinZ
#595 [04:08] <SinZ> !paid S1NZ
#596 [04:08] <Kealper> Wug: only auth'd people with that module can trigger it
#597 [04:08] <Wug> :P
#598 [04:08] <SinZ> :user? > SinZBot
#599 [04:08] <WugBot> SinZBot: (user?) What is your minecraft username?
#600 [04:09] <Wug> :user? > SinZ
#601 [04:09] <WugBot> SinZ: (user?) What is your minecraft username?
#602 [04:09] <Wug> still nothing
#603 [04:09] <Wug> Kealper: y u no match fuzzy strings
#604 [04:09] <Kealper> because the asker has to have permission to trigger it....
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#606 [04:09] <Wug> I authed wugbot
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#608 [04:09] <Kealper> to yourself?
#609 [04:09] <Wug> no, with .auth
#610 [04:09] <Kealper> it'll work for your nickserv account
#611 [04:09] <Kealper> different module
#612 [04:09] <Wug> bleh
#613 [04:10] <Wug> y u no use common auth module
#614 [04:10] <Wug> .auth wugbot 0
#615 [04:10] <xales> .auth wugbot -1
#616 [04:10] <SinZ> .auth SinZ 0
#617 [04:10] <Kealper> because that makes sense, and aubot is a conglomerate mess of code lol
#618 [04:10] <SinZ> .auth SinZ 1
#619 [04:10] <SinZ> aww
#620 [04:10] <Kealper> xales: i'm actually not sure what that'll do... lol
#621 [04:10] <xales> error
#622 [04:10] <Wug> :user? > SinZ
#623 [04:10] <WugBot> SinZ: (user?) What is your minecraft username?
#624 [04:10] <Kealper> oh, guess i was smarter than i thought :o
#625 [04:10] <SinZ> -AuBot- AuBot Internal Error [Code 0x02] | User not found in Authorized Users section of the database.
#626 [04:11] <xales> !auth wugbot 0asdfasf0
#627 [04:11] <xales> erm
#628 [04:11] <xales> .auth wugbot 0asdfasdf0
#629 [04:11] <xales> >:|
#630 [04:11] <Wug> .auth WugBot -1
#631 [04:11] <xales> .auth WugBot
#632 [04:11] <Wug> .auth WugBot b00bs
#633 [04:11] <xales> .auth WugBot z z z z
#634 [04:11] <Wug> Kealper: give me aubots source
#635 [04:11] * xales unloadalls
#635 [04:11] <Wug> I'll rewrite the whole damn thing
#636 [04:11] <xales> Wug: :D
#637 [04:12] <Kealper> rofl
#638 [04:12] <Wug> in something sensible and more maintainable
#639 [04:12] <SinZ> that reminds me, I gotta continue doing my system
#640 [04:12] <xales> Wug: go
#641 [04:12] <Kealper> ^
#642 [04:12] <Wug> xales/kealper: we should do it in go
#643 [04:12] <Wug> exactly.
#644 [04:12] <Wug> mind reader ~.~
#645 [04:12] <Kealper> lol
#646 [04:12] <xales> as of tomorrow
#647 [04:12] <xales> I am going to start working on it :D
#648 [04:12] <xales> I can send you two repository info if you want
#649 [04:12] <Wug> do.
#650 [04:12] <xales> also lua scripting
#651 [04:12] <Kealper> i think...
#652 [04:12] <Wug> Kealper: zip (aubot source code) ==> wug
#653 [04:13] <xales> however scripting will be a completely seperate part from the core
#654 [04:13] <Kealper> i want to make a bot connect to here :o
#655 [04:13] <SinZ> `eval $this->bot->privmsg($channel, json_encode(array($this->config[faq_admin])));
#656 [04:13] <SinZBot> [null]
#657 [04:13] <xales> so you can turn it off or use something else or whatever
#658 [04:13] <Kealper> Wug: uhh... it's in autoit, and it's not pretty at all
#659 [04:13] <Wug> I know
#660 [04:13] <xales> SinZ: ...really?
#661 [04:13] <xales> a fucking bot in PHP??
#662 [04:13] <SinZ> yep
#663 [04:13] <xales> a fucking anything in PHP?
#664 [04:13] <SinZ> yep
#665 [04:13] <xales> Kealper:
#666 [04:13] <Wug> xales: I should give wugbot a php interpreter
#667 [04:13] <Kealper> Wug: rofl
#668 [04:13] <Wug> that would be funnyyyyyyy
#669 [04:13] <xales> xales@stratos ~/irclogs/2011/espernet/11 % php -r '::'
#670 [04:13] <xales> PHP Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM in Command line code on line 1
#671 [04:14] <SinZ> `eval $this->bot->privmsg($channel, "Whats wrong with php xales");
#672 [04:14] <SinZBot> Whats wrong with php xales
#673 [04:14] <xales> SinZ: What *isn't* wrong with PHP?
#674 [04:14] <Kealper> it's like perl but dumb :|
#675 [04:14] <SinZ> SinZBot xales
#676 [04:14] <xales> SinZ: http://phpsadness.com/
#677 [04:14] <Kealper> SinZ: it's ok, atleast SinZBot isn't in autoit
#678 [04:14] <Wug> ^^
#679 [04:14] <Wug> Kealper: aubot soure
#680 [04:14] <Wug> source*
#681 [04:14] <Wug> wug
#682 [04:14] <Wug> now
#683 [04:15] <Wug> strip passwords
#684 [04:15] <Wug> because wug's gonna overhaul
#685 [04:15] <xales> Wug: the source is/was on his sight
#686 [04:15] <xales> erm
#687 [04:15] <xales> site*
#688 [04:15] <Wug> was*
#689 [04:15] <sugoi> i need a slow release, fast receiving gate
#690 [04:15] <xales> I can probably guess the URL if it's still around
#691 [04:15] <Kealper> is*
#692 [04:15] <sugoi> any thoughts?
#693 [04:15] <Wug> its back?
#694 [04:15] <SinZ> SinZBot is gonna store passwords in md5
#695 [04:15] <Kealper> it never left
#696 [04:15] <xales> SinZ: MD5 is old and not secure
#697 [04:15] <xales> ._.
#698 [04:15] <Wug> I seem to recall you directed it to me once and it wasnt there
#699 [04:15] <Wug> me to it*
#700 [04:15] <xales> use SHA512 and a time-based salt
#701 [04:15] <Wug> SinZ: sha2
#702 [04:16] <SinZ> its the only encryption I can think of that doesnt have a direct decrypt function
#703 [04:16] <Kealper> >encryption
#704 [04:16] <xales> SinZ: that's called a hash.
#705 [04:16] <Wug> SinZ: google one way hash
#706 [04:16] <Wug> you're welcome
#707 [04:16] <xales> Wug: hash is by definition one-way
#708 [04:16] <xales> one-way one-way encryption
#709 [04:16] <xales> well
#710 [04:16] <Kealper> ^
#711 [04:16] <Wug> xales: yeah whatever
#712 [04:16] <xales> one-way one-way message digest
#713 [04:16] <xales> to be more accurate
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#715 [04:16] <xales> like "PIN Number"
#716 [04:16] <Wug> still, one way is part of the qualifier
#717 [04:16] <xales> personal identification number number
#718 [04:16] <xales> :D
#719 [04:17] <SinZ> now, to think of a dynamic salt to do for passwords
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#721 [04:17] <xales> SinZ: time-based mutating salt
#722 [04:17] <Wug> do dynamic salts even work
#723 [04:17] <xales> complicated ass algorithm
#724 [04:17] <xales> have fun writing it in PHP
#725 [04:17] <Kealper> SinZ: it doesn't have a decrypt function because it was never designed to be one, MD5 and others like it in the group of hashing functions are like a really good compression program that doesn't care about getting the data back after it compresses it
#726 [04:17] <xales> Wug: sort of
#727 [04:17] <Wug> that seems like it wouldnt
#728 [04:17] <Wug> afaik the salt has to be the same otherwise the hashes wont match
#729 [04:17] <Wug> which is ... bad
#730 [04:17] <Wug> also just use nickserv identification
#731 [04:18] <Wug> wugbot does it, aubot does it
#732 [04:18] <SinZ> that would work
#733 [04:18] <Wug> voxelhead should but doesnt
#734 [04:18] <xales> Wug: the salt is computed based on the time of request and the hash of the static salt and cleartext password
#735 [04:18] <SinZ> how to find out if someone is authed with nickserv, from protocol point of view
#736 [04:18] <Wug> you'll need /cap req account-notify and /cap req extended-join
#737 [04:18] <xales> Wug: then it salts the original hash with the computed salt
#738 [04:18] <Wug> xales: eeew cleartext passwords
#739 [04:18] <Kealper> SinZ: raw packet: WHO #minecrafthelp %na
#740 [04:19] <xales> Wug: hash 0: staticSalt + clearText
#741 [04:19] <Wug> Kealper: does aubot use extended join and account notify
#742 [04:19] <Kealper> SinZ: outputs all usernames in the channel, organized like "nickname accountname"
#743 [04:19] <xales> Wug: hash 1: time-based random + hash0
#744 [04:19] <Kealper> Wug: yes
#745 [04:19] <xales> Wug: it checks against hash1
#746 [04:19] <xales> it's realistically impossible to break that
#747 [04:19] <xales> (if you do it right)
#748 [04:20] <Wug> that doesnt seem like it would be any more secure because you'd have to keep the regular salted value anyway
#749 [04:20] <Wug> to derive salt 1
#750 [04:20] <xales> going from a hash1 that you found in a cookie something requires knowing what the server thinks the exact time is
#751 [04:20] <xales> at the time the hash was created
#752 [04:20] <xales> which is extremely unlikely
#753 [04:21] <SinZ> ah, nice Kealper
#754 [04:21] <xales> and even if it was, you would still need to know not only the static hash, but still need to break SHA512
#755 [04:21] <SinZ> 354
#756 [04:21] <xales> >.>
#757 [04:21] <Kealper> SinZ: and if they don't have a nickserv account or are not currently logged in, the accountname part will be "0"
#758 [04:21] <Wug> xales: I mean from a database perspective
#759 [04:22] <Wug> it might be hard to get clientside, but if the hash tables are compromised you'll still get the hash-0's
#760 [04:22] <Scott> xales :'(
#761 [04:22] <Scott> i'm cold!
#762 [04:22] <xales> Wug: it's easier if you have a tiered database thingy
#763 [04:22] <Wug> it is my understanding that in situations of security you are supposed to assume that this kind of stuff will at some point be accessible to everyone
#764 [04:22] <xales> database ring 0 has hash0s, ring 1 is much bigger much more used and stores hash1s and sessions
#765 [04:23] <xales> database ring 0 is supposed to be inaccessible
#766 [04:23] <xales> to computers and people
#767 [04:23] <Wug> supposed to be being the keyword
#768 [04:23] <xales> because people are the *real* problem with security
#769 [04:23] <xales> :x
#770 [04:24] <xales> "Hello, ThirdCousinI'veNeverSpokenToBefore, how interesting you work at the Federal Reserve"
#771 [04:24] <xales> "I have this awesome website, I think you should check it out"
#772 [04:24] <Wug> can I borrow your car keys?
#773 [04:24] <xales> "I made it a few years ago though, so make sure to use Internet Explorer 6 so you can view it properly!"
#774 [04:24] <Wug> lol
#775 [04:24] <xales> hello, SWAT
#776 [04:24] <Wug> it has an activex control I wrote myself.
#777 [04:24] <xales> I now own the federal reserve!
#778 [04:24] <Wug> it shows kitties.
#779 [04:25] <xales> Wug: some well-known shitty thing that everyone runs
#780 [04:25] <xales> has a safe-for-scripting control that lets you run arbitrary command strings
#781 [04:25] <xales> :x
#782 [04:26] * Scott cries.
#782 [04:26] <Scott> The end of burn notice is sad
#783 [04:26] <xales> :(
#784 [04:26] <Scott> I don't think I can wait until the next season to know what happens.
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#786 [04:26] <xales> Scott: time machine
#787 [04:27] <Scott> it won't be back on until 2012
#788 [04:27] <SinZ> dont be silly, go in nether for a couple of minutes, come out, BAM next seasons started
#789 [04:28] <Wug> xales: better security:
#790 [04:28] <Wug> hash the hashes!
#791 [04:28] <Wug> well, we've broken the first round of sha3
#792 [04:28] <Wug> on to the next
#793 [04:28] <xales> that's what I'm doing
#794 [04:28] <Wug> 150000 more years later
#795 [04:28] <xales> but it uses multiple layers of salts, and one is generated based on a known-to-one-side-only data
#796 [04:28] <Wug> thats how salts are supposed to work
#797 [04:29] <Wug> if they know the salt they dont need to guess it
#798 [04:29] <Wug> which is time consuming and expensive
#799 [04:29] <xales> yes, but generated > stored in database
#800 [04:30] <xales> in any event, security is bullshit
#801 [04:30] <xales> best security: don't let people log in
#802 [04:30] <xales> therefore eliminating the need for accounts
#803 [04:30] <xales> \o/
#804 [04:32] <Kealper> ^
#805 [04:32] <SinZ> how about using the persons password as the salt =P
#806 [04:33] <xales> yes because that makes sense.
#807 [04:33] <xales> SALT IT WITH ITSELF
#808 [04:33] <xales> good idea
#809 [04:33] <SinZ> =P
#810 [04:33] <SinZ> if $dbpass == crypt($password, $password)
#811 [04:33] <xales> wat.
#812 [04:34] <xales> 1: stop using php
#813 [04:34] <SinZ> php is epic >:D
#814 [04:34] <xales> uhm, no.
#815 [04:34] <xales> also, DES is not secure
#816 [04:34] <xales> at all
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#818 [04:36] <Scott> Odd
#819 [04:36] <Scott> it doesn't appear there was a bones thursday
#820 [04:37] <SinZ> Scott: will the minecraftirc server have a creativemode world?
#821 [04:37] <Scott> ye
#822 [04:37] <Scott> blargh
#823 [04:37] <SinZ> =D
#824 [04:37] <Scott> why do they take things off air for holidays?
#825 [04:37] <SinZ> ^
#826 [04:37] <Scott> People don't have anything else to do.
#827 [04:37] <Scott> They would get MORE viewers.
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#830 [04:38] <SinZ> Scott: do a riot to get good shows on for holidays
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#832 [04:39] <Scott> screw it
#833 [04:39] <Scott> i'm watching more sex and the city
#834 [04:39] <SinZ> if it can change politics, it can change whats on TV
#835 [04:40] <Scott> They use zip drives in the fourth season.
#836 [04:40] <SinZ> what?
#837 [04:40] <Scott> That was in 2001-2002.
#838 [04:40] <SinZ> not rar?!
#839 [04:41] <Scott> USB flash drives were available in 2000. :P
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#841 [04:42] <Kealper> zip drives.....
#842 [04:42] <Kealper> i used to have one of those!
#843 [04:43] <Scott> I want this: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD256Z/A
#844 [04:43] <Scott> (the drive)
#845 [04:43] <SinZ> ah, zip drives were the old usb flash drives
#846 [04:44] <Scott> They're so neat looking.
#847 [04:44] <Scott> I might get one on ebay.
#848 [04:44] <Kealper> SinZ: or the new floppy diskettes, depends how you look at them :P
#849 [04:44] <SinZ> I remember floppy disks
#850 [04:44] <SinZ> not ZIP drives
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#852 [04:45] <xales> as opposed to floppy drives and ZIP disks?
#853 [04:45] <xales> ._.
#854 [04:45] <SinZ> I had an amiga, my dad still has it
#855 [04:45] <Kealper> zip drives never really caught on as much as floppies did
#856 [04:45] <xales> zip drives were an apple thing
#857 [04:45] <xales> .-.
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#859 [04:45] <SinZ> oh
#860 [04:45] <SinZ> No wonder I havent heard of em
#861 [04:46] <Kealper> they were kind of in a transitional period when cd burners were becoming more popular
#862 [04:46] <Kealper> xales: not true, they had them for windows as well
#863 [04:46] * xales burns toast
#863 [04:46] <Hawkhead> anyone play Shadow-Craft ? (multiplayer)
#864 [04:46] <xales> Kealper: Apple designed them
#865 [04:46] <xales> I think
#866 [04:46] <Scott> They're' sooo cute.
#867 [04:46] <SinZ> iv played warcraft, minecraft and starcraft, does that cound Hawkhead?
#868 [04:46] <Scott> looook http://cdn.thetechjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/images/1108/1313497044-apple-offers-69-os-x-lion-usb-thumb-drive-1.png
#869 [04:46] <Kealper> Hawkhead: uhh... we know the owner of that server, does that count? lol
#870 [04:47] <SinZ> count*
#871 [04:47] <Kealper> Scott: :o
#872 [04:47] <Scott> I want that OS X Lion text off though
#873 [04:47] <Scott> Why doesn't Apple sell these? :/
#874 [04:47] <Kealper> Scott: they do, they just come pre-loaded with an OS lol
#875 [04:47] <Scott> ye
#876 [04:47] <Scott> i want a blank one with no text on it
#877 [04:47] <SinZ> I'd take off apple symbol, and all writing, and make it black
#878 [04:47] <Hawkhead> no to all
#879 [04:47] <Scott> Just the "designed by Apple in California" bit
#880 [04:48] <Kealper> "Designed by Apple in California, made by Foxconn in China"
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#882 [04:48] <SinZ> Yes Kealper
#883 [04:50] <Hawkhead> I dug two blocks into a mountain and deep down I saw chests
#884 [04:51] <Kealper> Hawkhead: well, that was luck lol.... although it wouldn't be nice to mess with them :o
#885 [04:51] <SinZ> since most admins have banhammers at the ready
#886 [04:51] <Wug> Kealper: do you have go installed
#887 [04:51] <Wug> I'd assume yes
#888 [04:51] <Kealper> Wug: si
#889 [04:51] <Wug> but if I were to start writing chunks of aubot in go
#890 [04:51] <Wug> would you help
#891 [04:51] <Hawkhead> there was no one there
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#893 [04:52] <Wug> or would I just be embarking on a lonely journey I'd probably not have time to finish
#894 [04:52] <Kealper> uhh.... aubot has some things that i have no idea how to recreate in go
#895 [04:52] <Kealper> and probably the latter
#896 [04:52] <Wug> Hawkhead: just because it looks like there is nobody there doesnt mean there is nobody there
#897 [04:52] <Wug> Kealper: >:(
#898 [04:53] <Hawkhead> so I better not explore?
#899 [04:53] <Wug> Hawkhead: look, dont touch
#900 [04:53] <Hawkhead> ok
#901 [04:54] <Kealper> Hawkhead: well.. you can explore, just don't steal things that other people have clearly tried to hide lol
#902 [04:54] <SinZ> ooh
#903 [04:54] <xales> SinZ: hoo
#904 [04:54] <Kealper> because although no one is around there right now, they might just be sleeping or something, and could be back there again in like 12 hours
#905 [04:54] <SinZ> just saw that my temp is now 60C
#906 [04:54] <SinZ> it was 90C with minecraft on
#907 [04:55] <xales> rofl
#908 [04:55] <Wug> rolf
#909 [04:55] <Kealper> mine is at 57C, but that's with a laptop that can't get much airflow right now since it's sitting on my matress
#910 [04:55] <xales> your laptop's cooling is crappy
#911 [04:55] <Hawkhead> also I don't know any comands
#912 [04:55] <xales> I don't get above 65 with GPU maxed out
#913 [04:55] <SinZ> xales: I'll find model and send you it
#914 [04:55] <xales> and my GPU is more powerful than yours
#915 [04:56] <xales> so :P
#916 [04:56] <Kealper> Hawkhead: there arn't usually any commands unless you are a server operator
#917 [04:56] <xales> Kealper: shadowcraft has some
#918 [04:56] * SinZ trys to remember where model is located
#918 [04:56] <xales> or, it did
#919 [04:56] <Wug> theres sometimes /me
#920 [04:56] <Hawkhead> o
#921 [04:56] <Kealper> xales: my laptop's GPU dominates all
#922 [04:56] <xales> lol
#923 [04:56] <SinZ> Wug: /me is in vannila
#924 [04:57] <Wug> SinZ: non shitty bukkit servers have it
#925 [04:57] <Kealper> SinZ: but default permissions plugin configs for bukkit have that command disabled for some dumb reason
#926 [04:57] <Wug> people will use it for hax
#927 [04:57] <Wug> its highly exploitable
#928 [04:57] <Kealper> ^
#929 [04:57] <Wug> you can ...
#930 [04:57] <Wug> uhh
#931 [04:58] <Wug> say your name good
#932 [04:58] * Kealper talk like this
#932 [04:58] <Wug> :O haxor
#933 [04:58] * SinZ likes talking like this
#933 [04:58] * Kealper agrees
#933 [04:58] <Wug> r u hakin me
#934 [04:58] * xales hacks Wug
#934 [04:58] <Kealper> Wug: rofl
#935 [04:58] * xales is in Wug's My Documents folder!
#935 [04:58] * SinZ says Yes Wug.
#935 [04:58] <Kealper> xales: isn't he on linux :|
#936 [04:58] <Kealper> lol
#937 [04:58] * xales has banned Wug
#937 [04:59] <Wug> xales: o no u ban me from self D:
#938 [04:59] <xales> Kealper: well, he's probably not on Windows Ex Pee
#939 [04:59] * SinZ is in /root on Wug's computer
#939 [04:59] <Kealper> rofl
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#941 [04:59] * Wug unmounts SinZ
#941 [04:59] * Kealper is in /dev/null on Wug's computer
#941 [04:59] <SinZ> Why were you mounting me in first place wug!
#942 [04:59] <Kealper> :o
#943 [04:59] * Wug dd IF=/dev/null OF=/root
#943 [04:59] <Wug> oops
#944 [04:59] * Kealper dies
#944 [04:59] <Wug> I just copied kealper onto SinZ
#945 [05:00] <Kealper> the overwriting was not a success, crc32 fails :o
#946 [05:00] <SinZ> does that mean I get OP then
#947 [05:00] <Scott> Well, I'm going to bed now… I have to get up before noon tomorrow.
#948 [05:00] <xales> Wug: most people use lowercase names
#949 [05:00] <xales> >.>
#950 [05:01] * Kealper waves to Scott
#950 [05:01] <Scott> If I get another job and it requires me to be up early, I'm going to die.
#951 [05:01] <Wug> xales: mv /root /RoOt wololo
#952 [05:01] <Kealper> lol
#953 [05:01] <Wug> and that was the day my computer stopped booting
#954 [05:01] <xales> Wug: no I mean
#955 [05:02] <xales> dd if=derp of=derp
#956 [05:02] <xales> not IF=derp OF=derp
#957 [05:02] <Wug> I dont think it matters
#958 [05:02] <Wug> and I've seen either
#959 [05:02] <xales> it doesn't
#960 [05:02] <xales> most people use the former
#961 [05:02] <xales> :p
#962 [05:03] * SinZ uses htop
#962 [05:03] * Kealper just realized he had his bandwidth checker running for the last few hours
#962 [05:03] <Kealper> which basically just telnets in to my router and runs ifconfig vlan1 every second ._.
#963 [05:03] <xales> Kealper: lol
#964 [05:03] <xales> there are much, much, much better ways to do it
#965 [05:04] <xales> like using /proc...
#966 [05:04] <Kealper> maybe on a full linux machine
#967 [05:04] <xales> ifconfig uses /proc
#968 [05:04] * Kealper looks at his router
#968 [05:05] <Scott> Kealper: Or… you could use SNMP
#969 [05:05] <Kealper> xales: permission denied :o
#970 [05:05] <xales> Scott: ...some routers...don't...support...most snmp...
#971 [05:05] <xales> .-.
#972 [05:05] <xales> Kealper: root it
#973 [05:05] <Scott> He has DD-WRT
#974 [05:05] <Kealper> i am root...
#975 [05:05] <Scott> it supports it
#976 [05:05] <xales> Scott: oic
#977 [05:05] <xales> Kealper: wat
#978 [05:06] <xales> Kealper: google for dd-wrt bandwidth monitor
#979 [05:06] <xales> :p
#980 [05:06] * WUG WROTE HIS VERY OWN FIRST GO PROGRAM :d
#980 [05:06] <xales> :O
#981 [05:06] <Wug> :/
#982 [05:06] <Kealper> am i like.... doing something wrong?
#983 [05:06] <Kealper> \u@\h:\w\$ /proc
#984 [05:06] <Kealper> -sh: /proc: Permission denied
#985 [05:06] <Wug> Kealper: sudo
#986 [05:06] <Wug> also, cat things into i
#987 [05:06] <Wug> t*
#988 [05:06] <Wug> see what happens
#989 [05:07] <Kealper> -sh: sudo: not found
#990 [05:07] <Wug> wtf
#991 [05:07] <xales> Kealper: /proc is a folder
#992 [05:07] <xales> directory, rather
#993 [05:07] <Scott> Kealper: By the way, DD-WRT records your bandwidth usage
#994 [05:07] <xales> derp
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#996 [05:07] <gPad2002> Kealper: su
#997 [05:07] <xales> forgot you aren't using winblows
#998 [05:07] <Wug> folder == directory
#999 [05:07] <Wug> they are one and the same
#1000 [05:07] <xales> Wug: technically, no
#1001 [05:07] <Wug> interchangable if you will
#1002 [05:07] <xales> I forget the exact difference
#1003 [05:08] <xales> a folder is the concept
#1004 [05:08] <gPad2002> .fol on windows
#1005 [05:08] <xales> a directory is the POSIX implementation
#1006 [05:08] <Kealper> Scott: yeah i know, but this thing i made tells me my current upload/download speeds in a little tooltip in my upper-lefthand corner of my screen lol
#1007 [05:08] <xales> a directory is a file which represents a folder
#1008 [05:08] <xales> lol
#1009 [05:08] <Scott> oh well use SNMP
#1010 [05:08] <Wug> that sounds like a difference in name only
#1011 [05:08] <xales> Wug: yep
#1012 [05:08] <Wug> conceptually they're the same thing
#1013 [05:08] <Kealper> Scott: that sounds much harder than what i'm doing now
#1014 [05:08] <xales> it's GNU/Linux vs Linux type thing
#1015 [05:08] <Wug> even if the implementation varys per file system
#1016 [05:09] <Wug> I have to go do stuff, bbl
#1017 [05:09] <Wug> I should teach wugbot to roam freenode
#1018 [05:09] <Kealper> also for SinZ: -sh: su: not found
#1019 [05:09] <sugoi> you guys get realy talkative when people aren't asking what a video card driver is
#1020 [05:09] <Wug> Kealper: G3T-R00TZ-LOL
#1021 [05:10] <Wug> sugoi: thats because, contrary to popular belief, we have lives outside of fixing minecrafts
#1022 [05:10] * sugoi feels lame he's the only commentor without a +/@
#1022 [05:10] <Kealper> this thing doesn't even have any help of any sort, every single byte that could be removed from their main release for their micro release (to keep it under 2MB) has been removed lol
#1023 [05:10] <xales> Wug: you mean mindcrafts
#1024 [05:10] <sugoi> Wug: haha, is that popular? :)
#1025 [05:10] <Wug> xales: meinkruft
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#1027 [05:10] <Wug> TheNytangel: you need a bouncer
#1028 [05:10] <gPad2002> Kealper: ls /bin
#1029 [05:10] <sugoi> Kealper: DamnSmallLinux?
#1030 [05:10] <Wug> ...
#1031 [05:10] <gPad2002> See what you can use
#1032 [05:11] <Kealper> gPad2002: don't have ls
#1033 [05:11] <Kealper> gPad2002: i got dir though LOL
#1034 [05:11] <gPad2002> dir then
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#1036 [05:11] <xales> sugoi: DD-WRT
#1037 [05:11] <gPad2002> lol
#1038 [05:11] <xales> w/ super shitty busybox build
#1039 [05:11] <Kealper> ^
#1040 [05:11] <Wug> :o you're sure its not running dos
#1041 [05:11] <Wug> dir, but no ls?
#1042 [05:11] <gPad2002> XD
#1043 [05:11] <Kealper> rofl
#1044 [05:11] <xales> Wug: that, I havet osay
#1045 [05:11] <xales> is odd
#1046 [05:12] <Kealper> waot
#1047 [05:12] <Kealper> wait
#1048 [05:12] <gPad2002> TheNytangel: You need a bouncer
#1049 [05:12] <Kealper> no, i don't have dir
#1050 [05:12] <gPad2002> Lol.
#1051 [05:12] <Wug> Kealper: you have derp apparently
#1052 [05:12] <gPad2002> How the fuck does one work without dir or ls
#1053 [05:12] * AuBot kicked gPad2002 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Pad2002 :Please keep it civil.)
#1054 [05:12] <Kealper> i have cd, but no way to view contents
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#1056 [05:12] <xales> Kealper: wtf
#1057 [05:12] <gPad2002> Oh come on
#1058 [05:12] <gPad2002> That was justified xD
#1059 [05:12] <Wug> Kealper: cat the directory
#1060 [05:12] <xales> wow, what
#1061 [05:12] <jamietech> gPad2002: owned
#1062 [05:13] <Kealper> gPad2002: bots feel no emotions lol
#1063 [05:13] <xales> ls is 104K?
#1064 [05:13] <xales> ouch.
#1065 [05:13] <gPad2002> lol
#1066 [05:13] <gPad2002> It also shouted at me in a query
#1067 [05:13] <Scott> lol. i've had this tiny jumpdrive since 2005
#1068 [05:13] <Wug> gPad2002: it loves you
#1069 [05:13] <gPad2002> AuBot: JUST ASK YOUR QUESTION, IF WE CAN HELP WE WILL. PLEASE BE PATIENT, WE CAN'T ANSWER YOU IF YOU QUIT AFTER 10 SECONDS. | Channel rules: http:/​/​goo.gl/​bmDxr AuBot: JUST ASK YOUR QUESTION, IF WE CAN HELP WE WILL. PLEASE BE PATIENT, WE CAN'T ANSWER YOU IF YOU QUIT AFTER 10 SECONDS. | Channel rules: http:/​/​goo.gl/​bmDxr
#1070 [05:13] <gPad2002> Yes, twice
#1071 [05:13] <Wug> thats the welcome notice
#1072 [05:13] <gPad2002> xD
#1073 [05:13] <Scott> I'm surprised it still works.
#1074 [05:13] <Scott> It is even dented.
#1075 [05:13] <Kealper> holy shit
#1076 [05:13] <Kealper> guys
#1077 [05:13] <Wug> you'd be amazed by the number of people who still manage to ignore it
#1078 [05:13] <Kealper> i have cat!
#1079 [05:13] <gPad2002> :O
#1080 [05:14] <Wug> Kealper: ln /bin/cat /bin/kitty
#1081 [05:14] <xales> Wug: hardlinks are fun
#1082 [05:14] <Wug> but you probably dont have ln so never mind
#1083 [05:14] <Kealper> lol
#1084 [05:14] <gPad2002> Lol
#1085 [05:14] <gPad2002> Can you cat a directory?
#1086 [05:14] <xales> no
#1087 [05:14] <Wug> depends
#1088 [05:14] <xales> /bin/sh: line 0: .: filename argument required
#1089 [05:14] <xales> .: usage: . filename [arguments]
#1090 [05:14] <xales> bat
#1091 [05:14] <xales> bah
#1092 [05:14] <gPad2002> Then how is he supposed to see what's in there lol
#1093 [05:14] <xales> cat: .: Is a directory
#1094 [05:14] <Scott> I have bash, csh, ksh, and zsh o:
#1095 [05:15] <xales> zsh <3
#1096 [05:15] <Wug> xales: as you pointed out, directories are just files
#1097 [05:15] <gPad2002> bash <3
#1098 [05:15] <Wug> even if your system wont let you do it, its possible that openwrt will
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#1100 [05:15] <Wug> or whatever it was
#1101 [05:15] <Scott> I didn't know that OS X included them all.
#1102 [05:15] <xales> Kealper: does it have a sshd or just a telnetd
#1103 [05:16] <Scott> standard has both
#1104 [05:16] <Kealper> xales: just telnetd, sshd must have been too big
#1105 [05:16] <Kealper> (remember, i'm not running standard, i'm running micro)
#1106 [05:16] * Wug telnets into it
#1106 [05:16] <Scott> get a better router :(
#1107 [05:16] <gPad2002> Surely you could upload ls
#1108 [05:16] * Wug takes a dump in its pipe
#1108 [05:16] <Scott> I paid $20 shipped for mine and it can run standard lol
#1109 [05:16] <sugoi> haha
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#1112 [05:16] <Scott> and it's like unbrickable
#1113 [05:17] <Kealper> Scott: i was thinking of getting a better one... there is this Rosewill one for dirt cheap that is dd-wrt capable that i wouldn't mind having
#1114 [05:17] * gPad2002 throws a big red brick at Scott
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#1115 [05:17] <Scott> i have an asus router
#1116 [05:17] <Scott> I will make you a deal
#1117 [05:18] <Scott> You buy me an apple extreme airport and I'll give you this
#1118 [05:18] <Kealper> i'll get right on that lol
#1119 [05:18] <gPad2002> Lol
#1120 [05:18] <gPad2002> Is the Airport actually any good?
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#1122 [05:18] <Scott> Yes.
#1123 [05:18] <Scott> The UI is awesome and it supports ipv6 natively and tunnels.
#1124 [05:18] <xales> I'd rather have dd-wrt tbh
#1125 [05:19] <gPad2002> I suppose it'd have ls
#1126 [05:19] <Kealper> but i really wouldn't mind having a router that had more than 2mb of rom.... i'd like all the other tools that come with the standard dd-wrt :<
#1127 [05:19] <Scott> I don't think Cisco even makes a SOHO router that is ipv6 capable.
#1128 [05:19] <gPad2002> lol
#1129 [05:19] <Scott> http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/specs.html
#1130 [05:19] * gPad2002 clicks
#1130 [05:20] <Scott> and it doesn't have any of those annoying blinky lights
#1131 [05:20] <gPad2002> No broadband modem
#1132 [05:20] <gPad2002> I need one of those
#1133 [05:20] <Scott> I've thought about cracking my cable modem open and breaking the LED for activity
#1134 [05:21] <Scott> It NEVER stops blinking.
#1135 [05:21] <Kealper> lol
#1136 [05:21] <gPad2002> I wonder if you can just get like
#1137 [05:21] <gPad2002> A tiny, minimal broadband modem
#1138 [05:21] <Scott> you know what
#1139 [05:21] <Scott> i'm going to use black electrical tape to cover those damn lights tomorrow
#1140 [05:21] <gPad2002> That just had a single Ethernet output
#1141 [05:21] <gPad2002> That and an Airport would be perfect for me
#1142 [05:21] <helpmehpls> can someone help me? ive just bought minecraft and im starting it up and when it first loads it says "Bad Video Card Drivers! Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers."....i have updated all programs like java but it still wont work?!" can SOMEONE PLS HELP
#1143 [05:22] <Scott> The express is nice too
#1144 [05:22] <Scott> http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/
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#1146 [05:22] <Scott> perfect for a studio apartment or dorm room
#1147 [05:22] <helpmehpls> someone pls help me!!
#1148 [05:22] <gPad2002> But I needs broadband modem
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#1150 [05:22] <gPad2002> ??> helpmehpls win/dxdiag
#1151 [05:22] <VoxelHead> helpmehpls: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1152 [05:22] <VoxelHead> helpmehpls: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1153 [05:22] <Scott> then buy one
#1154 [05:23] <gPad2002> I have one
#1155 [05:23] <gPad2002> It's just shit
#1156 [05:23] <Scott> I bought a cable modem and just had my ISP update the HFC MAC address so it works.
#1157 [05:23] <gPad2002> It's a tends
#1158 [05:23] <gPad2002> Tenda*
#1159 [05:23] <Scott> i just have a standard docsis 2.0 surfboard
#1160 [05:23] <helpmehpls> what are the Win+R keys?
#1161 [05:23] <gPad2002> Win key and R key
#1162 [05:23] <gPad2002> Uh
#1163 [05:24] <gPad2002> ?? Win/key
#1164 [05:24] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1165 [05:24] <helpmehpls> oh thanks
#1166 [05:25] <Scott> I so want an airport extreme :(
#1167 [05:25] <gPad2002> I would if I had that little bridge I was talking about
#1168 [05:25] <Scott> Though, a Time Capsule 2TB might be better. It's the airport extreme with a 2TB hard drive in it.
#1169 [05:25] <gPad2002> Why the heck
#1170 [05:26] <Scott> The extreme is $179. The 2TB time capsule is $299.
#1171 [05:26] <Kealper> why the heck not :o
#1172 [05:26] <Scott> Have you seen hard drive prices?
#1173 [05:26] * gPad2002 sits on AuBot
#1173 [05:26] <gPad2002> Yeah I have
#1174 [05:26] <gPad2002> My machine has 2*1TB in a RAID
#1175 [05:26] <Scott> Western Digital Caviar Black WDBAAZ0020HNC-NRSN 2TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
#1176 [05:26] <xales> Scott: I actually use an Extreme as my router
#1177 [05:26] <xales> well
#1178 [05:26] <Scott> is $270
#1179 [05:26] <xales> it's a 1TB time capsule
#1180 [05:26] <xales> :D
#1181 [05:26] <Scott> they only make 2 and 3tb models now
#1182 [05:27] <Kealper> xales: verdict?
#1183 [05:27] <xales> Kealper: I have to use a mac to configure it
#1184 [05:27] <Kealper> :/
#1185 [05:27] <xales> I think I can use snmp but I cba to play with it
#1186 [05:27] <gPad2002> I don't have a mac
#1187 [05:27] <gPad2002> :P
#1188 [05:27] <Scott> xales: liar.
#1189 [05:27] <xales> other than that' it's surprisingly nice
#1190 [05:27] <xales> Scott: wat
#1191 [05:27] <Scott> the tool runs on Windows
#1192 [05:27] <xales> oh
#1193 [05:27] <xales> I never looked tbh
#1194 [05:27] <gPad2002> lol
#1195 [05:27] <xales> and I don't use Windows either
#1196 [05:27] <xales> sooooo
#1197 [05:27] <Scott> you can also use an iOS device
#1198 [05:27] <Kealper> rofl
#1199 [05:27] <helpmehpls> umm when i go save on desktop it wont save? pls help VoxelHead?
#1200 [05:27] <xales> Scott: wat
#1201 [05:27] <Scott> Yeah
#1202 [05:28] <Scott> they included the setup utility in iOS
#1203 [05:28] <Scott> xD
#1204 [05:28] <gPad2002> xD
#1205 [05:28] <Kealper> inb4 "i don't have and ipod either"
#1206 [05:28] <xales> I do
#1207 [05:28] <xales> actaully
#1208 [05:28] <xales> :D
#1209 [05:28] <gPad2002> I'm on an iPad
#1210 [05:28] <gPad2002> You fool
#1211 [05:28] <gPad2002> :P
#1212 [05:28] <Kealper> hadn't noticed lol
#1213 [05:28] <Scott> At which point, I would ask why you are buying an apple router
#1214 [05:29] <gPad2002> There are three iPads,
#1215 [05:29] * Kealper goes to bed
#1215 [05:29] <gPad2002> Two netbooks (Win7 and Ubuntu)
#1216 [05:29] <Scott> I do not really see a point for an iPad
#1217 [05:29] <helpmehpls> oh and do i save it to my desktop as a text or XML file?
#1218 [05:29] <Scott> If it made voice calls, I would like it.
#1219 [05:29] <gPad2002> Three desktops (2*win7 and an XP)
#1220 [05:29] <Scott> I want a tablet that can make GSM voice calls.
#1221 [05:29] <gPad2002> Two laptops (Vista and XP) in my house
#1222 [05:30] <gPad2002> Scott: There's a jailbreak tweak for it
#1223 [05:30] <xales> helpmehpls: text.
#1224 [05:30] <gPad2002> Scott: Can you imagine making a call from an iPad though
#1225 [05:30] <helpmehpls> hmmm. sorry but it wont i save i click it and nothing happens?
#1226 [05:31] <gPad2002> I could imagine people walking around with a tablet in their face xD
#1227 [05:31] <Scott> gPad2002: I use earbuds with a mic.
#1228 [05:31] <gPad2002> Same
#1229 [05:31] <gPad2002> But still
#1230 [05:31] <Scott> well i use my phone for email/web/im more than I do calls
#1231 [05:31] <gPad2002> Heh
#1232 [05:31] <gPad2002> Get an iPad with 3G
#1233 [05:31] <gPad2002> Skype everywhere
#1234 [05:31] <Scott> 4 inches is not big enough
#1235 [05:32] <Scott> Please take this out of context.
#1236 [05:32] <gPad2002> You like it big, eh?
#1237 [05:32] <Scott> As it's so true in many contexts.
#1238 [05:32] <gPad2002> Lol
#1239 [05:32] <xales> helpmehpls: Then you're not saving it correctly
#1240 [05:32] <helpmehpls> how do i save it then?
#1241 [05:32] <gPad2002> I've had an iPad for... Over a year
#1242 [05:32] <xales> Just like you save anything else...
#1243 [05:32] <gPad2002> Damn best thing I ever bought
#1244 [05:33] <Scott> I played with my aunts work issued iPad
#1245 [05:33] <Scott> i was not very impressed
#1246 [05:33] <Scott> it seemed rather useless tbh
#1247 [05:33] <gPad2002> Jailbreak it
#1248 [05:33] <helpmehpls> well sorry but when i press save nothing happens....
#1249 [05:33] <xales> helpmehpls: ...what are you expecting to happen?
#1250 [05:33] <helpmehpls> oh well it to go away like everything always does...
#1251 [05:34] <xales> if you clicked save, then it's saved on your desktop
#1252 [05:34] <Scott> They get an iPad with 3G for email
#1253 [05:34] <xales> follow the rest of the instructions
#1254 [05:34] <xales> ??> helpmehpls win/dxdiag
#1255 [05:34] <VoxelHead> helpmehpls: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1256 [05:34] <VoxelHead> helpmehpls: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1257 [05:34] <helpmehpls> i cant find it on my desktop...
#1258 [05:34] <xales> Then you're not saving it to your desktop, you're saving it somewhere else
#1259 [05:35] <helpmehpls> it selected to desktop....
#1260 [05:36] <helpmehpls> does it have to be on my desktop?
#1261 [05:36] <xales> No, but you have to open it whereever you save it
#1262 [05:37] <helpmehpls> can i put it in a folder or something
#1263 [05:37] <gPad2002> Yes
#1264 [05:37] <helpmehpls> great
#1265 [05:38] <Scott> Carrie Bradshaw's screams never get old.
#1266 [05:38] <Scott> I really have to go now.
#1267 [05:38] <Scott> It's almost 4:45 am lol
#1268 [05:38] <Scott> BYE
#1269 [05:39] <helpmehpls> oh my, i feel very stupid when it came to save i changed the name to dxdiag (Minecraft) ....it cannot save with any other words put on that it has to be dxdiag :( i feel like such a retard sorry
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#1271 [05:42] <helpmehpls> sorry, whats an IRC channel
#1272 [05:42] <gPad2002> This room
#1273 [05:42] <helpmehpls> oh so i just past it on here?
#1274 [05:43] <helpmehpls> http://pastebin.com/nwCwqpvk
#1275 [05:43] <gPad2002> xales: Poke
#1276 [05:43] * gPad2002 reads
#1276 [05:43] <helpmehpls> like that?
#1277 [05:44] <xales> ??> helpmehpls gpu/nvidia
#1278 [05:44] <VoxelHead> helpmehpls: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#1279 [05:44] <gPad2002> Yeah
#1280 [05:44] <gPad2002> Yeah, there are newer drivers than that I think
#1281 [05:44] <helpmehpls> so i follow that link and,...?
#1282 [05:45] <xales> Click the button for "Option 2"
#1283 [05:45] <helpmehpls> which one?
#1284 [05:45] <xales> there is only one...
#1285 [05:46] <xales> the button, under option 2, that says graphics driver
#1286 [05:46] <helpmehpls> ? theres graphics drivers and motherboards drivers...
#1287 [05:46] <helpmehpls> oh sorry you guys must think im retarded
#1288 [05:46] <xales> click the button that says graphics driver
#1289 [05:46] <helpmehpls> i have now its scanning
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#1292 [05:48] <helpmehpls> hmmm still scanning...
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#1294 [05:49] <helpmehpls> is it supposed to scan for this long?
#1295 [05:49] <xales> Did it pop up something asking for permission to run?
#1296 [05:50] <helpmehpls> no.. do i click "click here if the scan did not complete
#1297 [05:50] <xales> Yes
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#1299 [05:51] <helpmehpls> ok, it has the latest driver download?
#1300 [05:52] <xales> Is it asking you to download it, or telling you that you have the latest?
#1301 [05:52] <helpmehpls> asking me to download
#1302 [05:52] <xales> Download it
#1303 [05:52] <helpmehpls> ok
#1304 [05:52] <xales> And install it
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#1306 [06:01] <helpmehpls> 3 minutes left..... -.-
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#1311 [06:06] <helpmehpls> ok its finished and has come up with a pop up about where i want to save it. do i type desktop or whatever?
#1312 [06:06] <xales> Yes
#1313 [06:06] <xales> Or use the default, shouldn't matter
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#1315 [06:08] <helpmehpls> ok the graphcs drive has been installed and has the setup wiizard thingy, do i use the Express or Custom settings?
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#1317 [06:08] <helpmehpls> Express is recommended
#1318 [06:08] <xales> Use Express
#1319 [06:08] <helpmehpls> ok thanks
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#1321 [06:11] <helpmehpls> ok its all installed
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#1323 [06:12] <xales> Try Minecraft now
#1324 [06:12] <helpmehpls> ok thank very much for your help and have a merry christmas
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#1327 [06:20] <Boreeas> Boreeas: What is your username?
#1328 [06:20] <Boreeas> Boreeas
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#1333 [06:40] <SinZ> ??< index
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#1336 [06:50] <Wug> GreyVulpine: have you not gone to bed yet, or did you get up early
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#1345 [07:25] <Boreeas> Wug: Early? It's 1 PM
#1346 [07:25] <Boreeas> <.<
#1347 [07:25] <Boreeas> >.>
#1348 [07:25] <Boreeas> Geez, vox
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#1350 [07:31] <hello> hello
#1351 [07:32] <hello> anyone here ?
#1352 [07:32] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1353 [07:32] <hello> I registered on another computer under my nickname do i have to register with a different one on this computer ?
#1354 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> For minecraft? No. Accounts are not linked to specific computers
#1355 [07:33] <hello> no for irc
#1356 [07:33] <hello> #minecraft
#1357 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> Then no. Just switch to your IRC nick, and /ns identify password
#1358 [07:34] <hello> Doesn't seem to work
#1359 [07:34] <Morrolan> Respectivley "/nsg identify <username> <password>" to switch directly.
#1360 [07:35] <Morrolan> ns, not nsg*
#1361 [07:35] <hello> oh okay
#1362 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> Did you register under the name of "hello"?
#1363 [07:35] <Morrolan> If you use Grey's command you will have to change to the registered nick first.
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#1365 [07:35] <Morrolan> Also, 'lo Grey
#1366 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> \p
#1367 [07:35] <hello> no i registered under LEVENDIZ
#1368 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> Then /nick LEVENDIZ then /ns identify password
#1369 [07:36] <hello> okay done :)
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#1372 [07:46] <SinZ> just noticed
#1373 [07:46] <SinZ> the sheet magnets for minecraft
#1374 [07:46] <SinZ> use the original cobblestone texture =D
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#1378 [07:55] <|Kiikun|> SinZ: yes.. because the magnets were made before the change :P
#1379 [07:55] <SinZ> I prefer the old cobblestone
#1380 [07:55] <|Kiikun|> ah :3
#1381 [07:56] <SinZ> shouldnt of changed
#1382 [07:56] <|Kiikun|> i like the new stuff for building.
#1383 [07:56] <Wug> whats all this then?
#1384 [07:56] <Wug> is this something in the most recent prerelease?
#1385 [07:56] <|Kiikun|> no.. awhile.
#1386 [07:56] <SinZ> I dont like the 1.7 texture changes
#1387 [07:56] <Wug> old prerelease then?
#1388 [07:56] <|Kiikun|> wug: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Cobblestone
#1389 [07:56] <SinZ> one update before prereleases stared
#1390 [07:57] <Wug> I dont use them because I like playing online
#1391 [07:57] <SinZ> started
#1392 [07:59] <Boreeas> !paid dukeP
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#1400 [08:13] <LEVENDIZ> I'm back
#1401 [08:14] <LEVENDIZ> Is anyone here ?
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#1403 [08:18] <squigy> i dont understand this. the download of the program opens for five seconds. closes before any ability to activate or sign in or use or anything. cannot get anything to play.
#1404 [08:19] <GreyVulpine> squigy - Got any error reports?
#1405 [08:22] <squigy> nothing. i just click to open the download and it opens and then disappears.
#1406 [08:24] <GreyVulpine> Where do you have the launcher downloaded to?
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#1408 [08:25] <squigy> it just goes into the download folder.
#1409 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> squigy - Alright, in the download folder, do you have any files named hs_err_pid?
#1410 [08:27] <squigy> n
#1411 [08:27] <squigy> no
#1412 [08:27] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#1413 [08:27] <squigy> mac
#1414 [08:28] <GreyVulpine> Does the application actually open, or does the icon in the dock just bounce?
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#1416 [08:29] <squigy> opens with log in screen. move to user name and start typing and it goes poof and closes
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#1418 [08:32] <GreyVulpine> squigy - Hmm. Have you made sure that Java's updated through Apple software update?
#1419 [08:32] <squigy> yes
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#1421 [08:34] <GreyVulpine> squigy - Alright. I assume when you downloaded minecraft.zip from minecraft.net/download, it installed minecraft.app to /applications/?
#1422 [08:35] <squigy> it does not appear to install. nothing in apps. no zip files run. click on it opens the log in screen and vanishes.
#1423 [08:37] <GreyVulpine> Well, that's what is supposed to have happened. The minecraft.zip that you got from minecraft.net/download should have had minecraft.app inside.
#1424 [08:37] <GreyVulpine> That minecraft.app is the launcher for minecraft that should be installed in /Applications.
#1425 [08:38] <squigy> maybe it would if it would stay open and allow log in
#1426 [08:38] <GreyVulpine> The window with the log in window is the launcher.
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#1428 [08:39] <squigy> wont stay open to run
#1429 [08:40] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Could you try something for me. Where you have minecraft.zip, open it up, put minecraft.app into your Applications folder.
#1430 [08:40] <GreyVulpine> Open up your terminal and have the Applications folder open.
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#1432 [08:41] <GreyVulpine> In the terminal, type in open, followed by a space, then drag the minecraft.app over. Press enter
#1433 [08:44] <GreyVulpine> squigy - When minecraft crashes, it'll write an error to the terminal. Share that with us
#1434 [08:44] <squigy> trying to drag to apps deosnt work. i think it may have something to do with this computer. its school and wont let anything run that isnt approved, however, duplicate computer from other kid has it installed with no problem
#1435 [08:46] <GreyVulpine> Could you drag the .app to somewhere you do have access to?
#1436 [08:47] <squigy> no. i best try to get permission somehow. i just dont understand why other duplicate computer will run it and this one wont
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#1444 [09:20] <|Kiikun|> <.< Help! Lava keeps killing me!
#1445 [09:20] * |Kiikun| blecks
#1445 [09:20] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1445 [09:21] <|Kiikun|> tryign to build a com,pact smothstone gen. the kind you go in and mine out the stone...
#1446 [09:21] <gPad2002> Hrhrhr
#1447 [09:21] <|Kiikun|> yeeaaahhh.... it keeps derping out and flowing the lava down too far instead of converting it :/
#1448 [09:21] <gPad2002> You.. Can't gen smoothstone?
#1449 [09:22] <|Kiikun|> it works in creative mode.. but i go survival and *dead*
#1450 [09:24] * gPad2002 thought you could only gen cobblestone
#1450 [09:25] <|Kiikun|> gPad2002: its a semi new mechanic. a water flow into a vertical lava flow makes smooth
#1451 [09:25] <gPad2002> Ah, I see
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#1455 [09:35] * |Kiikun| doesnt get why the SIMPLE one works... yet the one with the pistons doesnt :/
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#1456 [09:37] <epicminiman_on_iPhone> Sup
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#1458 [09:38] <mib_1m832u> i have a problem
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#1460 [09:38] <mib_1m832u> i can not login
#1461 [09:38] <epicminiman_on_iPhone> Wha
#1462 [09:39] <epicminiman_on_iPhone> T do you mean
#1463 [09:39] <mib_1m832u> Login Failed (Not Downloaded)
#1464 [09:39] <mib_1m832u> can you help me
#1465 [09:39] <mib_1m832u> ?
#1466 [09:40] <mib_1m832u> i have good password and good username
#1467 [09:40] <epicminiman_on_iPhone> If it says not downloaded, arnt u trying to press play offline?
#1468 [09:40] <mib_1m832u> try again
#1469 [09:40] <mib_1m832u> no play offline
#1470 [09:41] <epicminiman_on_iPhone> Are u pressing play offline?
#1471 [09:41] <mib_1m832u> i can not press ofline
#1472 [09:41] <|Kiikun|> mib_1m832u: retyle your username and password and ensure they are corredct at www.minecraft.net
#1473 [09:41] <mib_1m832u> i can login on minecraft.net
#1474 [09:41] <|Kiikun|> epicminiman_on_iPhone: the 'not downloaded' and 'play offline' are not the issue here..
#1475 [09:41] <mib_1m832u> not on the client
#1476 [09:41] <epicminiman_on_iPhone> Try browser then
#1477 [09:41] <|Kiikun|> mib_1m832u: retype them in the client. if you keep getting login failed, then change your password.
#1478 [09:41] <|Kiikun|> mib_1m832u: retype them in the client. if you keep getting login failed, then change your password.
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#1480 [09:42] <|Kiikun|> its possible the client-login has derped and resetting your pass shoudl fix it.
#1481 [09:42] <mib_1m832u> i have already done that
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#1483 [09:44] <mib_1m832u> how can i do that?
#1484 [09:44] <mib_1m832u> i go change my password
#1485 [09:44] <|Kiikun|> :resetpass
#1486 [09:44] <WugBot> resetpass: You can reset the password for your minecraft account using the following page: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1487 [09:46] <mib_1m832u> i have change my password, and his see Failed login
#1488 [09:47] <mib_1m832u> says*
#1489 [09:47] <|Kiikun|> mib_1m832u: whats your minecraft username?
#1490 [09:47] <mib_1m832u> DiegoKooger
#1491 [09:48] <|Kiikun|> !paid DiegoKooger
#1492 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_1m832u - Are you logging in, or are you sharing the account with somebody else?
#1493 [09:48] <|Kiikun|> . . .
#1494 [09:48] * |Kiikun| beats AuBot bloody with a stick!!!
#1494 [09:48] * |Kiikun| beats AuBot bloody with a stick!!!
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#1497 [09:49] <mib_1m832u> his says again... Failed Login
#1498 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> Who's his?
#1499 [09:49] <mib_1m832u> the minecraft client
#1500 [09:49] <mib_1m832u> i have a premium account
#1501 [09:49] <mib_1m832u> i play this game 24/7
#1502 [09:50] <mib_1m832u> and now
#1503 [09:50] <|Kiikun|> !find |Kiikun|
#1504 [09:50] <|Kiikun|> :/
#1505 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> Are you typing in the password, or are you just relying on "save password"
#1506 [09:50] <mib_1m832u> yes
#1507 [09:50] <mib_1m832u> i do
#1508 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> Which one?
#1509 [09:51] <mib_1m832u> i can login on minecraft.net, not on the minecraft client
#1510 [09:52] <mib_1m832u> grey, i do press on the login button
#1511 [09:52] <mib_1m832u> and
#1512 [09:52] <mib_1m832u> his says failed login
#1513 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> mib_1m832u - When you changed the password, did you include any symbols in it?
#1514 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> Or is it just letters and numbers?
#1515 [09:53] <|Kiikun|> mib_1m832u: Login failed means that your username and password dont match. since we just checked your username and its fine, the password is wrong ,whioch is why i told you to retype it.. then reset it cince retyping didnt work
#1516 [09:53] <Boreeas> Oh shi- "java.lang.NullPointerException
#1517 [09:53] <Boreeas> at at.<init>(SourceFile:31)"
#1518 [09:53] * Boreeas forces an update
#1518 [09:53] <|Kiikun|> Boreeas: lol
#1519 [09:53] <mib_1m832u> kiikun
#1520 [09:54] <mib_1m832u> i can login minecraft.net and not on the minecraft client
#1521 [09:54] <GreyVulpine> mib_1m832u - When you changed the password, did you include any symbols in it?
#1522 [09:54] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: non-alphanumerics break password in client?
#1523 [09:54] * GreyVulpine nods
#1523 [09:54] <|Kiikun|> oooooohhh...
#1524 [09:54] <mib_1m832u> grey, i dont now
#1525 [09:54] <GreyVulpine> Well, when you changed the password, did you forget what password you put in?
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#1527 [09:55] <GreyVulpine> If so, you may need to reset the password and write it down
#1528 [09:55] <mib_1m832u> yes, i have 2x change my password
#1529 [09:55] <mib_1m832u> and
#1530 [09:55] <|Kiikun|> mib_1m832u: did you put anything that isnt a letter or a number? stuff like the following are symbols !@#$%^&*()
#1531 [09:55] <GreyVulpine> Then, did you retype in the password in the client?
#1532 [09:55] <mib_1m832u> his says what i think what my password is
#1533 [09:55] <GreyVulpine> Or did you just launch the client and press log in?
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#1535 [09:56] <mib_1m832u> grey, i have the client 5x reload and i login in the client
#1536 [09:56] <GreyVulpine> Did you type in the new password into the client?
#1537 [09:56] <mib_1m832u> his says again and again and again failed login
#1538 [09:56] <GreyVulpine> Failed login means you're typing in the password wrontg
#1539 [09:56] <mib_1m832u> grey, yes i do
#1540 [09:57] <mib_1m832u> no
#1541 [09:57] <mib_1m832u> that not
#1542 [09:57] <mib_1m832u> my password
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#1544 [09:57] <mib_1m832u> typing in the
#1545 [09:57] <mib_1m832u> password
#1546 [09:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_1m832u - Try changing your password to something simple, 4 letters. Then type in the password again
#1547 [09:57] <mib_1m832u> balk
#1548 [09:57] <|Kiikun|> mib_1m832u: enter key is not a punctuation mark. please dont use it as such
#1549 [09:57] <mib_1m832u> i have again login
#1550 [09:57] <mib_1m832u> his says again
#1551 [09:58] <mib_1m832u> im leaving now
#1552 [09:58] <mib_1m832u> it's a sucks problem :(
#1553 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> Failed login means your password is being entered in wrong
#1554 [09:59] <mib_1m832u> i do that good
#1555 [09:59] <mib_1m832u> and his say it
#1556 [09:59] <mib_1m832u> and i leave this chat
#1557 [10:00] <mib_1m832u> i gotta go
#1558 [10:00] <mib_1m832u> bye, and thanx for your help
#1559 [10:00] <|Kiikun|> mib_1m832u: changing the password saved by the browswer wont change the one saved by the client. you have to retype the password into the client.
#1560 [10:00] <mib_1m832u> i do and i go
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#1574 [10:42] <Bens_Dream> Hi
#1575 [10:42] <Bens_Dream> This is my question - I'm looking for a map. Brief description: It's a jumping map, You spawn in a room And can choose which room you do, There are between 10-15 rooms in total. They're all pretty much the same, but with subtle differences Ie more blocks, further jumps, different materials
#1576 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> That's not exactly what this channel's suited to doing. We help with technical problems and in-game questions concerning minecraft.
#1577 [10:44] <oldtopman> And I would suggest searching for "parkour minecraft"
#1578 [10:44] <Bens_Dream> Ah
#1579 [10:44] <Bens_Dream> I tried that
#1580 [10:44] <Bens_Dream> It's really bugging me, so I really need help finding it
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#1582 [10:45] <oldtopman> I haven't seen any :S
#1583 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> Start looking through http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/53-maps/ ?
#1584 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> thousands of maps out there, nobody knows them all.
#1585 [10:46] <Bens_Dream> TY
#1586 [10:47] <Bens_Dream> Oh also
#1587 [10:47] <Bens_Dream> On a side note
#1588 [10:47] <Bens_Dream> Do you know where I could find multiplayer custom maps?
#1589 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> minecraftforums.
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#1598 [11:03] <LEVENDIZ> hello
#1599 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#1601 [11:06] <LEVENDIZ> thought i should let you know i no longer use hamachi
#1602 [11:06] <GreyVulpine> Good for you.
#1603 [11:09] <|Kiikun|> yay! the accelerator road works! so long as the brake is at the end :P
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#1606 [11:14] <sprog> Hello. My account name is jdrymon. My credit card was charged thrice for the game, but I've neither received a receipt nor been able to download minecraft.
#1607 [11:14] <sprog> Any ideas?
#1608 [11:14] <LEVENDIZ> help
#1609 [11:14] <LEVENDIZ> !paid jdrymon
#1610 [11:15] <LEVENDIZ> says you haven't paid
#1611 [11:15] <sprog> Huh? It shows up on my credit card.
#1612 [11:16] <LEVENDIZ> I can't help you there but user jdrymon hasn't paid
#1613 [11:16] <sprog> Thanks anyhow.
#1614 [11:17] <Omega_Guardian> are ye sure you went to the right site? I think there was a ripoff fake site
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#1616 [11:20] <LEVENDIZ> he left the irc man
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#1623 [11:35] <kermi> My Minecraft Doesnt work please HELP :(
#1624 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#1625 [11:36] <kermi> okay hold on :)
#1626 [11:36] <kermi> When i try to run it says: Pixle format not accelerated
#1627 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to update your video driverS?
#1628 [11:37] <kermi> PLEASEEE HELP :(
#1629 [11:37] <kermi> I tried
#1630 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> How did you try?
#1631 [11:37] <kermi> but i dont know what to do
#1632 [11:37] <kermi> I looked at videos on youtube
#1633 [11:37] <kermi> but none of them worked
#1634 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> Ah, alright then.
#1635 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> Of course not
#1636 [11:38] <kermi> I even have a full account :(
#1637 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? Windows? MacOS? Linux?
#1638 [11:38] <kermi> Windows
#1639 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> What version of windows? XP? Vista? 7?
#1640 [11:38] <kermi> Vista
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#1642 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Could you give us a dxdiag? Will show us more information about your system, where we can then recommend a video driver for you to download and install?
#1643 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> To get a dxdiag, you'll need to start by going to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: dxdiag and press enter.
#1644 [11:39] <kermi> ok hold on :)
#1645 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> Once you see a directx diagnostic console open, there'll be a button for "Save all information" in the bottom right. Hit that, save the document on your desktop.
#1646 [11:40] <kermi> it wouldnt let me save to my desktop so i saved it in my documents
#1647 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Go to your My documents folder and open up the dxdiag.txt
#1648 [11:41] <kermi> ok
#1649 [11:41] <kermi> done
#1650 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> Copy everything inside the document. Go to http://www.pastebin.com, paste it under "Create new paste", submit it, then give us the address to the page you're taken to
#1651 [11:42] <kermi> http://pastebin.com/3tVBbh1e
#1652 [11:42] <kermi> your not going to hack my computer?? :(
#1653 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> No. there's nothing there that'll let me hack your computer
#1654 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> One moment please
#1655 [11:43] <kermi> ok :D
#1656 [11:43] <kermi> ok :D
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#1658 [11:44] <kermi> What now ? :)
#1659 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> Wait one.
#1660 [11:46] <kermi> please dont hack my account :(
#1661 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> Looks like you're running a SiS IGP Graphics family SIS66x/SIS76x & SIS67x video chipset. You can try updating them from this website here:
#1662 [11:47] <kermi> :D
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#1664 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> http://w3.sis.com/download/ --> Use "Windows Vista Home/Premium" -> "IGP Graphics drivers" -> "SiS 671 & SiS 672 drivers"
#1665 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> Download the latest one there, and install it.
#1666 [11:48] <kermi> Where is it?
#1667 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> Where is what?
#1668 [11:49] <kermi> nevermind
#1669 [11:49] <kermi> there is one saying Windows vista basic/premium shall i use that one?
#1670 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> Which one are you looking at?
#1671 [11:50] <kermi> Nevermind again
#1672 [11:50] <kermi> sorry
#1673 [11:50] <kermi> its downloading :D
#1674 [11:51] <kermi> Thank you for your help so far :)
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#1676 [11:57] <kermi> i've downloaded it it has opened up in winrar what do i do now?
#1677 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Run the setup.exe
#1678 [12:00] <kermi> okay i clicked yes when it asked did i want to install it
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#1680 [12:02] <kermi> okay it has installed what shall i do now?
#1681 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Did it ask to restart your computer?
#1682 [12:04] <kermi> no it said do you want to view the readme file
#1683 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> You may want to try restarting your computer before trying minecraft again
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#1685 [12:04] <kermi> :D OKAY THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH YOUR MY BEST FRIEND EVER I LOVE YOU :) :) :D I LOVE YOU
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#1687 [12:07] <Boreeas> Oh notch, y u so theatralic
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#1689 [12:10] <sathees> hello
#1690 [12:11] <sathees> anyone there?
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#1692 [12:11] <sathees> anyone there?
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#1694 [12:13] <sathees> helo
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#1696 [12:17] <Boreeas> sathees: Hi there
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#1698 [12:19] <bletch> Hi I wanted to try the free single player version of Mine Craft offered on the web site, but when I started the game nothing happened... Can someone help me?
#1699 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Got java installed? What operating system are you on?
#1700 [12:21] <Durp> Yes I have java, and I'm using a Mac
#1701 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Ah, the free classic/outdated version of minecraft hasn't worked on Macs for a few months now
#1702 [12:22] <Durp> Awwww...
#1703 [12:22] <Durp> Alright lol, at least I know now that it won't work. Thank you Grey!
#1704 [12:22] <Omega_Guardian> there is a demo version of 1.0 I think
#1705 [12:23] <Omega_Guardian> far as I know it's fully featured but limited to like 90 minutes
#1706 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> There is not. There's a demo of Beta 1.5, but it's only available for windows, not mac
#1707 [12:23] <Durp> Damn... mac has failed me again -_-
#1708 [12:24] * rymate1234 is away: getting pizza :D
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#1709 [12:24] <Omega_Guardian> ah doh
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#1715 [12:39] <minecraft_guest14949> hi
#1716 [12:39] <minecraft_guest14949> anybody &
#1717 [12:39] <minecraft_guest14949> can you help me
#1718 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1719 [12:39] <minecraft_guest14949> How to make a axe in minecraft
#1720 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Axe
#1721 [12:40] <minecraft_guest14949> thank you
#1722 [12:40] <minecraft_guest14949> bye
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#1727 [12:51] <lzechman> having an error when i click on single player. fatal error (4): unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack
#1728 [12:51] <WugBot> lzechman: (firewall) Minecraft cannot download files or login if it is being blocked by a firewall. Try disabling your firewalls and logging in again.
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#1730 [12:55] <lzechman> having an error when i click on single player. fatal error (4): unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack
#1731 [12:55] <WugBot> lzechman: (firewall) Minecraft cannot download files or login if it is being blocked by a firewall. Try disabling your firewalls and logging in again.
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#1740 [13:29] <xiron> hi
#1741 [13:29] <xiron> hi
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#1753 [13:40] <Ziper> How to i get Minecraft to stop lagging so badly??
#1754 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> Turn down graphics options, update java, find a mod called optifine.
#1755 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> If you're running a 64 bit OS, download and install 64 bit java
#1756 [13:42] <Ziper> Thanks
#1757 [13:42] <clarjon1> Make sure that your graphics drivers are up to date, and you have the latest openGL avalable :)
#1758 [13:42] <Ziper> i sure do :)
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#1760 [13:42] <Ziper> can you tell me how to download mods
#1761 [13:42] <Ziper> in a simple form
#1762 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Depends on what operating system you're on
#1763 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> And what mods you're thinking of installing
#1764 [13:43] <Ziper> Windows vista
#1765 [13:43] <Ziper> im thinking of single player commands
#1766 [13:44] <clarjon1> Ziper: Step one: Go to the mod forum post
#1767 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Do you have Winrar or 7zip or a compression program?
#1768 [13:44] <clarjon1> Ziper: Step two, have winrar or 7 zip installed
#1769 [13:44] <Ziper> I have winrar
#1770 [13:44] <clarjon1> Ziper: Step 3, download the mod from the site
#1771 [13:44] <clarjon1> Ziper: Step 4, follow the instructions on the mod forum post for installation.
#1772 [13:45] <clarjon1> Ziper: 5, make sure to delete META-INF from inside the minecraft jar :)
#1773 [13:45] <Ziper> :)
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#1776 [13:46] <Ziper> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/94310-100-single-player-commands-v301/
#1777 [13:46] <clarjon1> Ziper: And if you run into issues, you should contact the mod developer. Check the mod post to see how he would prefer you contact him
#1778 [13:46] <Ziper> this is the webpage im at now how do i download it ?
#1779 [13:47] <Ryladine> ziper, do you play multiplayer?
#1780 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Did you read the post?
#1781 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> There's a section marked "Downloads"
#1782 [13:47] <clarjon1> Ziper: Did you try clicking the big link that says "Downloads"?
#1783 [13:47] <Ziper> okay hold on
#1784 [13:47] <clarjon1> Ziper: It sounds like you'd benefit from using the "automated installer" link.
#1785 [13:48] <Max> hey guys! i have a problem - when i was buying premium after clicking the admit button the page was like freesed. Money are left, but i got no confirmation link. What did i do wrong?
#1786 [13:48] <Ziper> okay do i go onto the preferred link
#1787 [13:48] <Ryladine> Ziper, before you download be aware this mod is known to cause the inability to interact with the world on some SMP servers.
#1788 [13:49] <Max> i did it ~8 days ago btw
#1789 [13:50] <Ziper> i dont play multiplayer
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#1792 [14:03] <bletch> purchased minecraft but never received it
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#1794 [14:05] <sugoi> b[tab][tab] ... blet[tab][tab] ... crap! oh, he left already
#1795 [14:05] * sugoi grumbles
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#1796 [14:05] * GreyVulpine already had...
#1796 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Did you follow the steps at minecraft.net/support --> premium.....
#1797 [14:06] <sugoi> haah
#1798 [14:06] <sugoi> :)
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#1800 [14:07] <theostobbe> I Want to thanks this help chat without it i could not play minecraft. I wish everyone a good Christmas and a good new 2012!.
#1801 [14:07] * sugoi feels warm and fuzzy
#1801 [14:07] <sugoi> theostobbe: same to you :)
#1802 [14:08] <theostobbe> Thank you :D.
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#1804 [14:09] <theostobbe> I heard somthing if minecraft gets on the xbox can we buy the game for free if you already buyed the pc version!?. Sorry for me lang i m from the netherlands.
#1805 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope
#1806 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> It's a different game
#1807 [14:10] <theostobbe> greyVulpine i wish you a nice Christmas and a good 2012!.
#1808 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> To you as well.
#1809 [14:10] <theostobbe> Thank you :D
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#1811 [14:11] <theostobbe> Ar you guys bored like me?.
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#1813 [14:11] <sugoi> theostobbe: i'm at work
#1814 [14:12] <theostobbe> Work?, you got a pc at your wrk?
#1815 [14:12] <sugoi> theostobbe: indeed, i'm a software engineer (coder)
#1816 [14:13] <theostobbe> I m a scripter :D of games.:D
#1817 [14:14] <theostobbe> I crate samp servers :D
#1818 [14:15] <sugoi> "crate samp" ?
#1819 [14:16] <theostobbe> create samp servers for people
#1820 [14:17] <theostobbe> But i go now i sould play CS
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#1827 [14:22] <Opeth> Just nabbed #cobalthelp
#1828 [14:22] <mib_a1owjk> how 2 install minecraft?
#1829 [14:22] <Opeth> thiswillnotbefun
#1830 [14:22] <sugoi> mib_a1owjk: minecraft.net/download
#1831 [14:22] <Scott> Well firstly, you must say to instead of 2.
#1832 [14:23] <sugoi> Scott: :)
#1833 [14:23] <mib_a1owjk> i try that but it dont work
#1834 [14:23] <sugoi> mib_a1owjk: what part doesn't work?
#1835 [14:23] <mib_a1owjk> it just says error
#1836 [14:23] <sugoi> mib_a1owjk: at what step? when you start minecraft.exe?
#1837 [14:24] <sugoi> mib_a1owjk: are you on windows or mac?
#1838 [14:24] <mib_a1owjk> windows
#1839 [14:24] <mib_a1owjk> window 7
#1840 [14:24] <sugoi> mib_a1owjk: so when exactly do you see "error" ?
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#1842 [14:25] <mib_a1owjk> im gonna restart
#1843 [14:25] <sugoi> ok :)
#1844 [14:25] <mib_a1owjk> it still says error!
#1845 [14:26] <sugoi> mib_a1owjk: help us help you
#1846 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> What does the error say?
#1847 [14:26] <sugoi> i'm going to bet he needs java
#1848 [14:26] <mib_a1owjk> bad video card drivers
#1849 [14:26] * GreyVulpine bets video drivers
#1849 [14:27] <sugoi> dang!
#1850 [14:27] <sugoi> you see, for me, my windows machine already had working drivers
#1851 [14:27] <sugoi> so i never guess that first
#1852 [14:27] <sugoi> on linux..boy...the was drivers all day long that gave me grief
#1853 [14:27] <mib_a1owjk> me too but it says mine is bad
#1854 [14:28] <sugoi> ?? win/dxdiag
#1855 [14:28] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1856 [14:28] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1857 [14:28] <sugoi> mib_a1owjk: read what VoxelHead wrote ^
#1858 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a dxdiag? Will show us more information about your system, including what video card you have.
#1859 [14:28] <mib_a1owjk> ok ill try
#1860 [14:30] <mib_a1owjk> it did not work!
#1861 [14:32] <mib_a1owjk> dang i really wanted 2 pla well thanks 4 trying
#1862 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> You need to give us the dxdiag report
#1863 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> We'll then be able to determine what video card drivers you need
#1864 [14:33] <mib_a1owjk> it's ok my sister's computer has minecraft i'll use hers
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#1866 [14:38] <mib_a1owjk> my sister computer is working great!
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#1869 [14:43] <benny> hello
#1870 [14:43] <sugoi> hi
#1871 [14:44] <benny> goo. ok i have had this problem before wug helped fix it. i deleted minecraft and i am now trying to update it ( all firewalls are off and i force update)
#1872 [14:45] <benny> iwjgl.jar
#1873 [14:45] <benny> or it dosent download something else
#1874 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> Using AVG by any chance?
#1875 [14:46] <benny> no u know me from before
#1876 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry, you'll have to realize we help quite a lot of people daily..
#1877 [14:46] <sugoi> benny: sorry, a lot of people come here - it is easy to forget some cases
#1878 [14:47] <benny> kk but can you help?
#1879 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> What antivirus software do you use?
#1880 [14:48] <benny> microsfot securty essentuals (its turned off)
#1881 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any other security software installed on your machine? Do you remember what Wug did?
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#1887 [14:54] <benny> hello?
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#1890 [14:54] <mib_wmgno9> Why does Minecraft freeze when i go into my enventory
#1891 [14:54] <mib_wmgno9> ?
#1892 [14:55] <tyteen4a03> benny: hi
#1893 [14:55] <tyteen4a03> mib_wmgno9: any mods installed?
#1894 [14:55] <mib_wmgno9> nope
#1895 [14:55] <tyteen4a03> how many items are in the inventory?
#1896 [14:56] <mib_wmgno9> A couple
#1897 [14:56] <benny> so are you thinking of something? cause for a second i thought i laged out
#1898 [14:56] <mib_wmgno9> like 2
#1899 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> did you use inventory editors before?
#1900 [14:56] <mib_wmgno9> Nope
#1901 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> benny - You never answered my previous questions. Do you have any other security software installed on your machine? Do you remember what Wug did?
#1902 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> mib_wmgno9: Does it happen on every world?
#1903 [14:56] <mib_wmgno9> yes
#1904 [14:57] <benny> i did "microsfot securty essentuals (its turned off)" and wug went on teamviewer
#1905 [14:57] <benny> changed jar files to excutable jar files or something
#1906 [14:58] <tyteen4a03> mib_wmgno9: It sounds like you installed a mod and forgot about it, can you try a forceupdate?
#1907 [14:58] <mib_wmgno9> I tried to install a mod but when it downloaded i decided to delete it
#1908 [14:59] <tyteen4a03> try a forceupdate then
#1909 [14:59] <benny> did u get that?
#1910 [14:59] <mib_wmgno9> how do i "force update"
#1911 [14:59] <tyteen4a03> ??> mib_wmgno9 forceupdate
#1912 [14:59] <VoxelHead> mib_wmgno9: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1913 [14:59] <VoxelHead> mib_wmgno9: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1914 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> benny - Are you an administrator on your computer? You may need to run Minecraft as an admin to update
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#1916 [15:00] <benny> how and im the only user (famly user)
#1917 [15:00] <benny> family*
#1918 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Right click on minecraft.exe -> run as admin
#1919 [15:01] <mib_3j2954> what is pixel format?
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#1921 [15:01] <oli_9519> hello
#1922 [15:01] <benny> hang on 2 secs
#1923 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_3j2954 - Means your video card drivers are either out of date, or you're running an old video card.
#1924 [15:02] <mib_3j2954> how do i fix it???
#1925 [15:02] <oli_9519> I need help
#1926 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_3j2954 - Update your video card's drivers
#1927 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> oli_9519 - WIth?
#1928 [15:02] <mib_3j2954> how
#1929 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_3j2954 - What operating system are you on? Windows? MacOS? Linux? AmigaOS?
#1930 [15:03] <mib_3j2954> windows 07
#1931 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_3j2954 - Give us a dxdiag, will show us more information about your system
#1932 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_3j2954 win/dxdiag
#1933 [15:03] <VoxelHead> mib_3j2954: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1934 [15:03] <benny> i aint got an admin i have a george&becky
#1935 [15:03] <VoxelHead> mib_3j2954: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1936 [15:04] <oli_9519> my game doesn't run i bought it today
#1937 [15:04] <tyteen4a03> oli_9519: What happens when you try to run it?
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#1939 [15:04] <tyteen4a03> hi Morrolan
#1940 [15:05] <oli_9519> it said "you are not prenium user" sorry for my mistakes I'am belgian and I try to speak English
#1941 [15:06] <tyteen4a03> oli_9519: When did you buy it?
#1942 [15:06] <tyteen4a03> oli_9519: like, 1 hour ago or 8 hours ago?
#1943 [15:06] <oli_9519> 3 hours ago
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#1945 [15:06] <tyteen4a03> oli_9519: have you received an email from Mojang?
#1946 [15:07] <benny> iwjgl still freezes
#1947 [15:07] <oli_9519> no I don't
#1948 [15:07] <squiggy> HELP!! whenever i go into my enventory in minecraft the WHOLE COMPUTER freezes
#1949 [15:07] <oli_9519> but after the transaction it said "purchase complete"
#1950 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> oli_9519 - Did you get any error messages before it said purchase complete?
#1951 [15:08] <oli_9519> no
#1952 [15:08] <tyteen4a03> squiggy: Did you try the forceupdate I told you earlier?
#1953 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> oli_9519 - I'd call your bank, but it seems like either the purchase hasn't gone through yet, or your bank is still holding onto the money.
#1954 [15:08] <tyteen4a03> ?? payment
#1955 [15:08] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1956 [15:08] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#1957 [15:08] <squiggy> I dont know how to force update :(
#1958 [15:08] <tyteen4a03> ??> squiggy forceupdate
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#1960 [15:08] <VoxelHead> squiggy: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1961 [15:08] <VoxelHead> squiggy: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1962 [15:09] <squiggy> okay thanks ill try it if i go offline then it doesnt work
#1963 [15:09] <oli_9519> okay tanks
#1964 [15:09] <mib_3j2954> http://pastebin.com/aX3hUuVD
#1965 [15:10] <sugoi> Intel(r)865G Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
#1966 [15:10] <benny> grey?
#1967 [15:10] <tyteen4a03> sugoi: hi, has a helper helped you before?
#1968 [15:10] <squiggy> wait where do i go into Options?
#1969 [15:11] <sugoi> tyteen4a03: i was just pasting mib_3j295's dxdiag info
#1970 [15:11] <tyteen4a03> squiggy: hang on, checking it against my own exe
#1971 [15:11] <tyteen4a03> sugoi: I think Grey can read it just fine :)
#1972 [15:11] <tyteen4a03> but anyways that sounds old
#1973 [15:12] <tyteen4a03> derp
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#1976 [15:12] <pudgetta> hey its the guy with the problem with minecraft freezing
#1977 [15:12] <pudgetta> Where do i go to "force update"
#1978 [15:13] <tyteen4a03> pudgetta: After clicking Options, there should be a button called Force Update
#1979 [15:13] <pudgetta> where?
#1980 [15:13] <tyteen4a03> ??> pudgetta forceupdate
#1981 [15:13] <VoxelHead> pudgetta: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1982 [15:13] <VoxelHead> pudgetta: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1983 [15:13] <pudgetta> where is the options button
#1984 [15:13] <clarjon1> pudgetta: in the downloadable client
#1985 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, there are no 865 intel drivers for windows 7
#1986 [15:13] <clarjon1> er, launcher
#1987 [15:13] <tyteen4a03> clarjon1: you beat me to it :P
#1988 [15:13] <tyteen4a03> aka Minecraft.exe
#1989 [15:13] <clarjon1> or Minecraft.app
#1990 [15:14] <pudgetta> okay
#1991 [15:14] <jasper> heres one i dont think anyone can get even tho i hope pple can XD my comp crashed so it deleted my minecraft files and i cant get them back can you help i need those
#1992 [15:14] <mib_3j2954> so what am i supposed to do?
#1993 [15:14] <tyteen4a03> jasper: World files?
#1994 [15:14] <pudgetta> sorry, i dont understand where i go to to force update!!
#1995 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> mib_3j2954 - There are no intel drivers for your system
#1996 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> pudgetta - Do you run minecraft through the downloadable client?
#1997 [15:15] <mib_3j2954> what does that mean
#1998 [15:15] <pudgetta> NEVER MIND I GOT IT!!!
#1999 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_3j2954 - You'll have to find a different computer to play minecraft on. Intel doesn't have video drivers for your windows 7 machine
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#2001 [15:16] <jasper> i mean i can play minecraft its just every files i had is gone and i cant find them on my comp is there a way to download them again or somthing XD
#2002 [15:16] <mib_3j2954> dang.... alright thanks ill use my laptop
#2003 [15:16] <mib_jlnuzm> h
#2004 [15:16] <mib_jlnuzm> help anyone
#2005 [15:16] <mib_jlnuzm> help anyone
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#2007 [15:16] <benny> help?
#2008 [15:16] <mib_jlnuzm> yea
#2009 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> jasper - Are you talking about your single player worlds?
#2010 [15:16] <mib_jlnuzm> i need a lot of help with my minecraft
#2011 [15:17] <jasper> no every fine i just need them all even tho my single play maps got destroyed to
#2012 [15:17] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: Yes?
#2013 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> jasper - Your single player worlds are stored locally on the computer that you created them on.
#2014 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> jasper - To redownload minecraft, you need to download the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#2015 [15:17] <mib_jlnuzm> im addicted i need help getting back on here
#2016 [15:17] <tyteen4a03> he meant his worlds
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#2018 [15:17] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: yes?
#2019 [15:17] <mib_jlnuzm> i click on it and this comes up......
#2020 [15:17] <mib_jlnuzm> nothing
#2021 [15:18] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: How do you launch Minecraft?
#2022 [15:18] <jasper> not just my worlds like if you go to your minecraft files itlle have if i can remeber saves and resourse all that is gone and i need htem back
#2023 [15:18] <tyteen4a03> jasper: Are they deleted?
#2024 [15:18] <mib_jlnuzm> ive redownload atleast 50 time really
#2025 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> jasper - Do you still have access to your other computer?
#2026 [15:18] <jasper> yes
#2027 [15:18] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: How do you launch Minecraft?
#2028 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> jasper - Worlds are saved locally on the computer. They don't automatically transfer between computer to computer. You'll need to manually move them yourself.
#2029 [15:18] <sprocket> i login in my account but than it says that i hve not the premium i just wont to play this game for free so please help
#2030 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> jasper - What operating system is your other computer running?
#2031 [15:19] <mib_jlnuzm> not in browser but i downloaded it from google chrome
#2032 [15:19] <tyteen4a03> sprocket: You need to buy Minecraft to play it
#2033 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> sprocket - Minecraft Premium is not free. Classic is. You can play classic at minecraft.net/classic/play
#2034 [15:19] <mib_jlnuzm> i didd
#2035 [15:19] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: minecraft.net/play?
#2036 [15:19] <jasper> im talking about all files that come with mincecraft i need them back cause i like to download puzzle maps pple make and put them into the saves part but i cant cause all the files for minecraft are good
#2037 [15:19] <sprocket> thx
#2038 [15:19] <jasper> gone
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#2040 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> jasper - You'll need to go to your other computer, and transfer them over
#2041 [15:19] <pudgetta> THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH YOU ARE ALL SO HELPFUL I LOVE YOU GUYS <3
#2042 [15:20] <jasper> i dont have another comp it was onnly on this one XD
#2043 [15:20] <mib_jlnuzm> i still has my prob
#2044 [15:20] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: he meant if he deleted his saves, can he get them back somehow
#2045 [15:20] <mib_jlnuzm> for me
#2046 [15:20] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: Do you play minecraft through Minecraft.exe?
#2047 [15:20] <tyteen4a03> Or minecraft.net/play?
#2048 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> jasper - If you deleted them, there's no way of getting them back
#2049 [15:21] <mib_jlnuzm> yes exe
#2050 [15:21] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: When you launch it, what happens?
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#2052 [15:21] <mib_jlnuzm> nothing at all
#2053 [15:21] <tyteen4a03> jasper: You can try Recuva, but there's no-
#2054 [15:21] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: Not even a window?
#2055 [15:21] <mib_jlnuzm> no
#2056 [15:22] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: Can you try launching minecraft through minecraft.net/play?
#2057 [15:22] <mib_jlnuzm> ok brb
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#2059 [15:23] <mib_jlnuzm> back i cant play that in browser
#2060 [15:23] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: What happens?
#2061 [15:23] <mib_jlnuzm> i need update
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#2063 [15:23] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: Can you tell us the full message?
#2064 [15:24] <mib_jlnuzm> ok
#2065 [15:24] <tyteen4a03> Please use pastebin.com if it's a large wall of text
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#2067 [15:24] <mib_jlnuzm> java(TM) plug in update needed
#2068 [15:24] <mib_jlnuzm> it says thats
#2069 [15:24] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: Please update your java
#2070 [15:24] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: java.com
#2071 [15:25] <tyteen4a03> ??< java/getjava
#2072 [15:25] <mib_jlnuzm> update mine
#2073 [15:25] <tyteen4a03> ?? index
#2074 [15:25] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#2075 [15:25] <tyteen4a03> .java
#2076 [15:25] <tyteen4a03> uh
#2077 [15:25] <tyteen4a03> ??> mib_jlnuzm getjava
#2078 [15:25] <VoxelHead> mib_jlnuzm: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#2079 [15:26] <tyteen4a03> Please download java from there, and install it
#2080 [15:26] <mib_jlnuzm> ok
#2081 [15:26] <mib_jlnuzm> downloading
#2082 [15:26] <mib_jlnuzm> downloading
#2083 [15:27] * tyteen4a03 yawns
#2083 [15:28] <tyteen4a03> it's 4:30 AM already so I will hide in my bed
#2084 [15:28] <mib_jlnuzm> yo u still here
#2085 [15:28] <mib_jlnuzm> i downloaded
#2086 [15:29] <mib_jlnuzm> yo
#2087 [15:29] <mib_jlnuzm> are you here
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#2089 [15:29] <sugoi> tyteen4a03: perth?
#2090 [15:29] <mib_jlnuzm> tyteen4a03
#2091 [15:30] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: Yes?
#2092 [15:30] <tyteen4a03> Double click on it
#2093 [15:30] <tyteen4a03> sugoi: Hong Kong
#2094 [15:30] <mib_jlnuzm> i downloaded
#2095 [15:31] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: Can you install it?
#2096 [15:31] <mib_jlnuzm> o wait
#2097 [15:33] <tyteen4a03> woot, sleep for 4 hours
#2098 [15:33] <mib_jlnuzm> um nothing happened
#2099 [15:33] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: Did you install java?
#2100 [15:33] <mib_jlnuzm> yup and reinstalled minecraft
#2101 [15:33] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: How did you reinstall minecraft...?
#2102 [15:34] <mib_jlnuzm> delete and install
#2103 [15:34] <tyteen4a03> delete what?
#2104 [15:34] <mib_jlnuzm> minecraft
#2105 [15:34] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: minecraft.exe?
#2106 [15:34] <mib_jlnuzm> yes
#2107 [15:35] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: Okay, try launching Minecraft through minecraft.net/play again
#2108 [15:35] <mib_jlnuzm> ok
#2109 [15:36] <mib_jlnuzm> still need update
#2110 [15:36] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: Is it the same message?
#2111 [15:37] <mib_jlnuzm> yes
#2112 [15:38] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: Did you update your Java as I told you?
#2113 [15:38] <mib_jlnuzm> yes i downloaded java 6 update 30
#2114 [15:38] <mib_jlnuzm> wait
#2115 [15:38] <mib_jlnuzm> brb
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#2117 [15:39] <Nathan2055> OK, dumb question.
#2118 [15:39] <tyteen4a03> mib_jlnuzm: Can you go to this website http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp and tell me what version you are using?
#2119 [15:39] <Nathan2055> Does anyone have a link to the Aether mod page.
#2120 [15:39] <Nathan2055> Search is on the fritz again.
#2121 [15:39] <tyteen4a03> Nathan2055: Google :P
#2122 [15:39] <tyteen4a03> oh
#2123 [15:39] <Nathan2055> Whoops.
#2124 [15:39] <mib_jlnuzm> wait dude
#2125 [15:39] <tyteen4a03> Nathan2055: Try #aethermod
#2126 [15:40] <Nathan2055> OK, thanks.
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#2128 [15:41] <bellows> Hey guys its me again with the freezing problem in minecraft i did the force update thing and the same STILL happened :(
#2129 [15:42] <sugoi> bellows: does this happen in >1 world?
#2130 [15:42] <tyteen4a03> sugoi: It happens on every world as he claim
#2131 [15:42] <bellows> yes it happens on everyone!
#2132 [15:42] <bellows> *every world
#2133 [15:42] <tyteen4a03> sugoi: so should I give mib_jlnuzm and bellows to you?
#2134 [15:43] <sugoi> haha, sure :)
#2135 [15:43] <tyteen4a03> good, I can now go to sleep :P
#2136 [15:43] <tyteen4a03> bye
#2137 [15:43] <sugoi> bellows: have you tried making a brand new single player world, just to test it out
#2138 [15:43] <sugoi> ?
#2139 [15:43] <mib_jlnuzm> no shit
#2140 [15:43] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: so what version did http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp say?
#2141 [15:43] <bellows> yes i have but the ENTIRE computer freezes
#2142 [15:43] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: civil, plz
#2143 [15:43] <sugoi> bellows: entire?
#2144 [15:44] <bellows> yes
#2145 [15:44] <mib_jlnuzm> plug in and i cant download that
#2146 [15:44] <sugoi> that sounds like an issue outside (beyond) minecraft
#2147 [15:44] <bellows> so i have to turn it off
#2148 [15:44] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: why not?
#2149 [15:44] <sugoi> bellows: have you tried ctrl+alt+delete to kill the game?
#2150 [15:44] <mib_jlnuzm> i dont know
#2151 [15:44] <bellows> Yea
#2152 [15:45] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: what error do you see when you try to download it?
#2153 [15:45] <bellows> it just doesnt work
#2154 [15:45] <sugoi> bellows: i'm concerned about your video card
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#2156 [15:45] <sugoi> bellows: this sounds like a bigger issue
#2157 [15:45] <bellows> Ok how do i fix it ?? :/
#2158 [15:45] <sugoi> bellows: old/new ? warranty?
#2159 [15:45] <sugoi> bellows: well it would be worth reinstalling the latest video driver
#2160 [15:45] <bellows> I have done that
#2161 [15:46] <mib_jlnuzm> it says already installed reinstall i click ok right and a error comes up
#2162 [15:46] <sugoi> bellows: how do other games play?
#2163 [15:46] <bellows> see at the start of the day minecraft didnt work it said pixel format not accelerated then i got that fixed but now when i go into enventory the whole thing freezes
#2164 [15:46] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: what does that error say?
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#2166 [15:46] <sugoi> bellows: did a new video driver fix the pixel issue?
#2167 [15:46] <bellows> No i updated it
#2168 [15:47] <sugoi> "it" ? minecraft?
#2169 [15:47] <bellows> i updated the video card
#2170 [15:47] <sugoi> oh
#2171 [15:47] <sugoi> and what video card is it, btw?
#2172 [15:47] <mib_jlnuzm> u cant do this its not installed
#2173 [15:48] <bellows> im not sure
#2174 [15:50] <bellows> so what can i do :/
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#2176 [15:51] <mib_jlnuzm> sugoi help still
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#2178 [15:51] <bellows> HELLLPPP
#2179 [15:51] <sugoi> sorry
#2180 [15:51] <sugoi> i'm at work
#2181 [15:51] <sugoi> got "distracted"
#2182 [15:51] <sugoi> but i'm back
#2183 [15:52] <mib_jlnuzm> i really need help
#2184 [15:52] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: "you can't do this it's not installed" ... that is the error you get when trying to install java?
#2185 [15:52] <mib_jlnuzm> yup
#2186 [15:52] <sugoi> ??> bellows win/dxdiag
#2187 [15:52] <VoxelHead> bellows: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2188 [15:52] <VoxelHead> bellows: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2189 [15:52] <sugoi> bellows: i'd like to see your dxdiag output, follow the instructions VoxelHead gave you
#2190 [15:53] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: there must be something i don't understand, because that doesn't make any sense
#2191 [15:53] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: are you on windows?
#2192 [15:53] <mib_jlnuzm> im on chrome
#2193 [15:54] <sugoi> chrome is your browser, okay, what about your OS?
#2194 [15:54] <sugoi> or are you saying chrome-os?
#2195 [15:54] * sugoi thought that was for hand helds
#2195 [15:54] <mib_jlnuzm> i dont know i think its just chrome
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#2197 [15:55] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: laptop/desktop machine?
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#2199 [15:55] <bellows> okay
#2200 [15:55] <mib_jlnuzm> i has laptop
#2201 [15:55] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: where di you but it?
#2202 [15:55] <sugoi> did*
#2203 [15:55] <sugoi> bellows: what's the pastebin url?
#2204 [15:56] <bellows> i dont know
#2205 [15:56] <mib_jlnuzm> i dont know but its sadly a acer
#2206 [15:56] <mib_jlnuzm> but
#2207 [15:56] <mib_jlnuzm> minecraft worked before
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#2213 [15:58] <mib_jlnuzm> help still
#2214 [15:58] <bellows> you guys cant hepl can you?
#2215 [15:58] <sugoi> busy again
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#2217 [16:02] <sugoi> k back
#2218 [16:02] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: it's an acer?
#2219 [16:02] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: so probably running windows, not linux?
#2220 [16:03] <sugoi> bellows: did you run dxdiag?
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#2222 [16:03] <mib_jlnuzm> o
#2223 [16:03] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: "o" ?
#2224 [16:03] <mib_jlnuzm> i dont know
#2225 [16:03] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: can you see your installed programs? see if you have java?
#2226 [16:04] <mib_jlnuzm> ok
#2227 [16:04] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: wait..sorry
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#2229 [16:04] <mib_jlnuzm> i have java 7
#2230 [16:04] <minecraft_guest05775> what the huck is my username
#2231 [16:04] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: i'm making it too hard, what does that java website say? without downloading anything
#2232 [16:04] <RobinJ24> much better
#2233 [16:05] <sugoi> you can get your username if you provide your email to minecraft.net
#2234 [16:05] <mib_jlnuzm> recommended java 6 update 30
#2235 [16:05] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: yeah, uninstall java 7 first
#2236 [16:05] <RobinJ24> How new is the Mojang accounts thing?
#2237 [16:05] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: can you do that?
#2238 [16:05] <sugoi> RobinJ24: what account thing?
#2239 [16:05] <mib_jlnuzm> ok
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#2242 [16:05] <RobinJ24> sugoi: the new thing where you can merge your minecraft account
#2243 [16:05] <RobinJ24> the one that doesnt work atm
#2244 [16:06] <sugoi> RobinJ24: hehe, i haven't heard about that
#2245 [16:07] <RobinJ24> Seems to be only an hour old
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#2247 [16:07] <RobinJ24> http://accounts.mojang.com
#2248 [16:07] <sugoi> RobinJ24: well i've been at work for 4 hours
#2249 [16:07] <sugoi> :)
#2250 [16:07] <RobinJ24> Umm that link didnt work...
#2251 [16:08] <RobinJ24> http://account.mojang.com there
#2252 [16:08] <mib_jlnuzm> ok did it
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#2254 [16:08] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: now, when you go to http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2255 [16:08] <sugoi> what does it say?
#2256 [16:08] <mib_jlnuzm> ok
#2257 [16:09] <Biffiswin> Is this is appropriate channel to ask questions regarding redstone wiring?
#2258 [16:09] <sugoi> Biffiswin: there is a better one
#2259 [16:09] <mib_jlnuzm> it says need update
#2260 [16:09] <sugoi> Biffiswin: can't remember the name, but i love redstone, so go ahead and ask :)
#2261 [16:09] <sugoi> Biffiswin: besides, that'd be a lot more fun to fix than video card drivers...
#2262 [16:09] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: k, don't accept it
#2263 [16:09] <sugoi> :j
#2264 [16:09] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#2265 [16:09] <mib_jlnuzm> ok
#2266 [16:10] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: use that link WugBot gave
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#2268 [16:10] <mib_jlnuzm> ok
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#2270 [16:10] <mib_jlnuzm> wat do i do
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#2272 [16:11] <mib_ycxrgf> Darragh?
#2273 [16:11] <mib_ycxrgf> u there?
#2274 [16:11] <lilybet> yes
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#2277 [16:11] <mib_jlnuzm> what do i do
#2278 [16:12] <lilybet> My Minecraft won't load it keeps coming up an error, what do I do?
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#2280 [16:13] <sugoi> back, was busy
#2281 [16:13] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: did you install j6_30 ?
#2282 [16:13] <mib_jlnuzm> ok
#2283 [16:13] <lilybet> What do I do?
#2284 [16:14] <sugoi> lilybet: probably a video card problem
#2285 [16:14] <sugoi> ??> lilybet win/dxdiag
#2286 [16:14] <VoxelHead> lilybet: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2287 [16:14] <VoxelHead> lilybet: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2288 [16:14] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: what version do you see when you go to http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2289 [16:14] <mib_jlnuzm> wait
#2290 [16:15] <lilybet> I don't have a win key
#2291 [16:15] <sugoi> lilybet: mac?
#2292 [16:16] <lilybet> No acer
#2293 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - What is the key between your ctrl and alt? In the lower left?
#2294 [16:16] <sugoi> acer is the brand, what os, widows?
#2295 [16:16] <lilybet> Fn
#2296 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> And to the right of Fn?
#2297 [16:17] <lilybet> The windows symbol
#2298 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> That is your win key
#2299 [16:17] <sugoi> tada :)
#2300 [16:17] <mib_jlnuzm> FUCK i miss minecraft so much i havent played it for 3 weeks
#2301 [16:17] * AuBot kicked mib_jlnuzm from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_jlnuzm :Please keep it civil.)
#2302 [16:17] <sugoi> :(
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#2304 [16:17] <sugoi> i felt i was making progress with mib
#2305 [16:17] <mib_jlnuzm> "sob"
#2306 [16:17] <Tschonny> Hey guys, sorry to write directly into that conversation. I have an account issue. "We are not affiliated with Mojang and cannot help with account issues. " I read that. But the official support DID NOT help, they didn't even write back!
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#2308 [16:18] <Tschonny> Has anyone an idea how i could get a response from somwhere?
#2309 [16:18] <mib_jlnuzm> you cant here me
#2310 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Tschonny - We're community run support. We have even less access to accounts from here.
#2311 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Tschonny - The latest we hear, is to send an email to help@mojang.com
#2312 [16:18] <mib_jlnuzm> can anyone here me
#2313 [16:18] <RobinJ24> TSchonny this is the "official" support run by the community
#2314 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_jlnuzm - Yes
#2315 [16:18] <mib_jlnuzm> ok
#2316 [16:18] <mib_jlnuzm> sugoi
#2317 [16:18] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: yes?
#2318 [16:19] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: what version did the java page say you have?
#2319 [16:19] <mib_jlnuzm> plz help
#2320 [16:19] <lilybet> nothing happens
#2321 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - Did you press Win+R?
#2322 [16:19] <lilybet> yes
#2323 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - Did a run command show up?
#2324 [16:19] <Tschonny> okay thanks. i wrote to support@mojang.com because someone told me this was the right one. i also used the support page
#2325 [16:19] <lilybet> it did now sorry i did a mistake
#2326 [16:19] <sugoi> lilybet: you have to hold win, and press r, then release both
#2327 [16:19] <Tschonny> I guess i'll try this one
#2328 [16:19] <mib_jlnuzm> nothing but i dont have java 7 so i got no java
#2329 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> Tschonny - Support@mojang.com, last we heard, had several tens of thousands of emails in backlog
#2330 [16:20] <mib_jlnuzm> brb
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#2332 [16:20] <mib_jlnuzm> ok
#2333 [16:20] <mib_jlnuzm> help
#2334 [16:21] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: i thought you downloaded =>
#2335 [16:21] <sugoi> :j
#2336 [16:21] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#2337 [16:21] <sugoi> ^^
#2338 [16:21] <mib_jlnuzm> no
#2339 [16:21] <mib_jlnuzm> didnt eotk
#2340 [16:21] <mib_jlnuzm> work
#2341 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_jlnuzm - Java 7's been known to cause problems with minecraft. Uninstall it completely and install java 6 from the link provided above
#2342 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_jlnuzm - You can uninstall java 7 from window's control panel
#2343 [16:21] <mib_jlnuzm> ok brb
#2344 [16:23] <sugoi> i thought he did that...
#2345 [16:23] <Boreeas> s/Java/Win/
#2346 [16:23] * sugoi sighs
#2346 [16:23] <Boreeas> <.<
#2347 [16:23] <lilybet> http://pastebin.com/mkFSYZWP
#2348 [16:23] <Boreeas> >.>
#2349 [16:23] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2349 [16:23] <sugoi> express chip family...oh boy
#2350 [16:23] <sugoi> express chip family...oh boy
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#2352 [16:24] <Boreeas> ...
#2353 [16:24] <Boreeas> 1.6 Ghz <.<
#2354 [16:24] <lilybet> http://pastebin.com/mkFSYZWP
#2355 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> What error does lilybet get?
#2356 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> pixel format not accelerated? OpenGL?
#2357 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> lilybet?
#2358 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> All I see from the chat buffer is that lilybet gets "an error".
#2359 [16:25] <lilybet> I thinks its OpenGL
#2360 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> You think? Or you know?
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#2362 [16:26] <mib_86klz3> back
#2363 [16:26] <lilybet> Think
#2364 [16:26] <mib_86klz3> sugoi
#2365 [16:26] <sugoi> sup?
#2366 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - Could you make sure it's an openGL error?
#2367 [16:27] <lilybet> Wait it is OpenGL
#2368 [16:27] <mib_86klz3> noting worked sugoi
#2369 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - Alright then. Download this and install it: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=18774&ProdId=2800&lang=eng
#2370 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Those are the latest video drivers for your 965 intel video chipset
#2371 [16:27] <Omega_Guardian> downloading the most recent opengl and putting it into the right folder under Minecraft worked for me
#2372 [16:28] <mib_86klz3> i miss mc so so so so so so so so so so much
#2373 [16:28] <lilybet> same
#2374 [16:29] <mib_jlnuzm> boho'
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#2376 [16:29] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: did you download the java install for java 6?
#2377 [16:29] <mib_jlnuzm> no it wont download
#2378 [16:31] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: what do you mean it won't download?
#2379 [16:32] <mib_jlnuzm> it says this software has already been installed on your computer would you like to reinstall
#2380 [16:33] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: i thought you uninstalled java?
#2381 [16:33] <mib_jlnuzm> I KNOW ITS BEING GAY
#2382 [16:34] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: go again to your programs+features, look for any an all java
#2383 [16:35] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: also, close all your browsers.....
#2384 [16:35] <sugoi> even this one
#2385 [16:35] <sugoi> you can log in again
#2386 [16:36] <mib_jlnuzm> ok
#2387 [16:37] <mib_jlnuzm> ok
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#2390 [16:38] <Lol> I Have A Problem When I Boot Up Minecraft It Says Could Not Creat Java Virtual Machine
#2391 [16:39] <mib_jlnuzm> OMG i have that problem
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#2393 [16:40] <mib_jlnuzm> i have something something comes UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#2395 [16:40] <mib_jlnuzm> sugoi
#2396 [16:41] <mib_jlnuzm> sugoi sugoi sugoi sugoi sugoi sugoi'
#2397 [16:41] <sugoi> yes?
#2398 [16:41] <sugoi> what version does it show?
#2399 [16:41] <mib_jlnuzm> Something acually comes UP
#2400 [16:42] <mib_jlnuzm> its a notice i dont have java but it comes UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG
#2401 [16:42] <Opeth> Please don't spam like that..
#2402 [16:42] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: good :)
#2403 [16:42] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: now download and install this:
#2404 [16:42] <sugoi> :j
#2405 [16:42] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#2406 [16:42] <mib_jlnuzm> :)
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#2408 [16:43] <mib_jlnuzm> sugoi help more
#2409 [16:43] <sugoi> mib_jlnuzm: download java from that link
#2410 [16:43] <sugoi> and then install it
#2411 [16:43] <mib_jlnuzm> ok
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#2413 [16:44] <mib_jlnuzm> which one
#2414 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> What windows are you running?
#2415 [16:44] <mib_jlnuzm> me
#2416 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2417 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> What windows are you running?
#2418 [16:45] <mib_jlnuzm> google chrome
#2419 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> That's a browser. What version of windows are you running?
#2420 [16:45] <mib_jlnuzm> o
#2421 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Windows XP? Vista? 7?
#2422 [16:45] <mib_jlnuzm> windows 7
#2423 [16:45] <clarjon1> GreyVulpine: hmm, i wonder if the old 'winver.exe' trick would work...
#2424 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Alright then. Go to your start menu, right click on "Computer" and hit "properties". Look at System type:
#2425 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> What does it say there?
#2426 [16:46] <mib_jlnuzm> ok
#2427 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> clarjon1 - Nope. Doesn't say #bit
#2428 [16:46] <clarjon1> GreyVulpine: Win+r, and typing "winver"
#2429 [16:46] <clarjon1> ah
#2430 [16:46] <clarjon1> i meant for getting which OS lol
#2431 [16:47] <mib_jlnuzm> wait
#2432 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_jlnuzm - Go to your start menu, right click on "Computer" and hit "properties". Look at System type:
#2433 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_jlnuzm - Do you see 32 or 64 bit there?
#2434 [16:48] <mib_jlnuzm> 64-bit
#2435 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_jlnuzm - Then go here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html
#2436 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Download Windows x64
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#2438 [16:48] <mib_jlnuzm> k
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#2441 [16:52] <mib_jlnuzm> GreyVulpine i LOVE YOU SO MUCH
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#2443 [16:54] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: i loosened the jar, just so you know
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#2445 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> loosened the jar?
#2446 [16:55] <sugoi> the lid, literal jar, not java .jar
#2447 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#2448 [16:55] <sugoi> metaphore...
#2449 [16:55] <sugoi> :P
#2450 [16:59] <RobinJ24> lool
#2451 [17:00] <Omega_Guardian> woah @ grand prize in that Steam winter achivement thing: receive every, single game on Steam
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#2453 [17:01] <sugoi> Omega_Guardian: .....
#2454 [17:01] <RobinJ24> wut
#2455 [17:01] <RobinJ24> this is impossiburu...
#2456 [17:02] <sugoi> haha
#2457 [17:02] <RobinJ24> oh yea i forgot you're a japanese fanboy
#2458 [17:02] <RobinJ24> or girl
#2459 [17:02] <RobinJ24> or alien
#2460 [17:02] <sugoi> me?
#2461 [17:02] <sugoi> you're the one that said ...buru
#2462 [17:02] <RobinJ24> yeah judging from your name
#2463 [17:02] <sugoi> made me think of snl
#2464 [17:02] <RobinJ24> im a judgmental bastard
#2465 [17:02] <sugoi> haha
#2466 [17:02] <sugoi> i made this irc nick when i lived in japan, i've since moved to the states
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#2469 [17:05] <ember> when I try to play in browser nothing happens
#2470 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Classic or Premium?
#2471 [17:05] <ember> premium
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#2473 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#2474 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Do you have java installed?
#2475 [17:06] <ember> not my computer - windows 7 and im looking for java
#2476 [17:06] <ember> dont see java
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#2478 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Then that's why you're not seeing minecraft work in the browser
#2479 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Download java from:
#2480 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> :j
#2481 [17:07] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
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#2483 [17:07] <ember> thank you!
#2484 [17:11] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: see...that's how it was supposed to go with that other mib guy
#2485 [17:11] <sugoi> 1. ahh no workie, 2. java, 3. no, 4. here, 5. thanks! done
#2486 [17:13] <Boreeas> Geez
#2487 [17:14] <RobinJ24> We must pause this help channel now for something extremely important
#2488 [17:14] <Boreeas> Minecraft is using 192 (!) % of my CPU
#2489 [17:14] <RobinJ24> I present to you, the funniest gif known to mankind.
#2490 [17:14] <RobinJ24> http://www.damnlol.com/pics/192/634a432ff71bee73392f71b7621d9466.gif
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#2492 [17:15] <sugoi> mmm, gioza
#2493 [17:17] <Boreeas> Geez, seriousls, does anyone know why this is?
#2494 [17:17] <RobinJ24> No but it sounds like Minecraft is trying to take over your computer
#2495 [17:17] <RobinJ24> "All your base are belong to us..."
#2496 [17:18] <RobinJ24> You could try to assign less RAM (with a risk of sounding like a complete noob)
#2497 [17:18] <sugoi> Boreeas: do you run the server locally? are you running a 16bit ALU in redstone? :)
#2498 [17:19] <Boreeas> Ram isn't the problem, CPU load is
#2499 [17:19] <Boreeas> sugoi: Not a server. Just the client
#2500 [17:19] <RobinJ24> Yeah I reaized
#2501 [17:19] <RobinJ24> realized*
#2502 [17:19] <sugoi> realized?
#2503 [17:19] <RobinJ24> My brain is not functioning correcly at the moment so I might seem a bit retarded
#2504 [17:20] <sugoi> Boreeas: dunno - sometimes mine goes overboard
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#2508 [17:25] <Dystopia> Hello?
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#2511 [17:26] <gunther> how do i run the game
#2512 [17:26] <Dystopia> Could you elaborate on the question?
#2513 [17:26] <Boreeas> gunther: What operating system are you using?
#2514 [17:27] <gunther> windows
#2515 [17:27] <Dystopia> lol
#2516 [17:27] <Boreeas> gunther: Did you download the launcher?
#2517 [17:27] <gunther> yeah
#2518 [17:27] <Boreeas> gunther: Doubleclick it
#2519 [17:27] <gunther> double click what
#2520 [17:27] <Dystopia> The icon.
#2521 [17:27] <Boreeas> The launcher
#2522 [17:28] <gunther> there isnt an icon on my screen
#2523 [17:28] <Dystopia> Homepage > Downloads > Minecraft > (After double clicking that.) Log in > Single Player > Create World.
#2524 [17:28] <Dystopia> If you have downloaded it, it should be currently inhabiting your Download foulder.
#2525 [17:28] <gunther> its says thta i have to buy it but i already bought it
#2526 [17:29] <Dystopia> Have you logged in?
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#2528 [17:29] <gunther> yeah
#2529 [17:29] <Dystopia> Better go to Boreeas for that one, because I am clueless.
#2530 [17:29] <mortisha> hi i have a problem with loading i got version 1.0.0
#2531 [17:29] <Dystopia> Could you please elaborate, Mortisha?
#2532 [17:31] <mortisha> i just got done loading a mod i went into the client it said done downloading at about 95% then it wouldn't load
#2533 [17:31] <mortisha> i waited an hour and still no progress
#2534 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> mortisha - In the downloaded client, go to the Options button before you log in, and hit "Force Update"
#2535 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> This will redownload unmodified files for minecraft
#2536 [17:32] <Boreeas> gunther: What is your minecraft username?
#2537 [17:32] <Dystopia> GreyVulpine; I am also having loading problems.
#2538 [17:32] <mortisha> i tried still nothing
#2539 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Dystopia - What problems?
#2540 [17:32] <mortisha> only says will force
#2541 [17:32] <RobinJ24> click log in
#2542 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> mortisha - Now log in
#2543 [17:33] <mortisha> when i click play ofline it says loading update done loading then it is stuck at 95% done
#2544 [17:33] <mortisha> i cant buy the game in fear or credit card hackers
#2545 [17:33] <Dystopia> Upon login, it will only load about two quarters of the way, then it will crash and make a "hs_err_pid_11268" error in notepad on my main screen. I've tried a verity of things, and still no success.
#2546 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Then you can't play the game mortisha
#2547 [17:34] <mortisha> so i am usually fine with play ofline
#2548 [17:34] <mortisha> it usually lets me
#2549 [17:34] <Dystopia> Variety*
#2550 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> Don't pirate the game just because you have a misguided notion of credit card hacking
#2551 [17:34] <RobinJ24> If you cant buy it you cant play it
#2552 [17:34] <mortisha> i didnt pirate it
#2553 [17:34] <mortisha> i loaded it off of minecraft.net
#2554 [17:34] <RobinJ24> I wouldn't steal a game from the store because of fear of getting robbed
#2555 [17:35] <Dystopia> GreyVulpine: Upon login, it will only load about two quarters of the way, then it will crash and make a "hs_err_pid_11268" error in notepad on my main screen. I've tried a variety of things, and still no success.
#2556 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Dystopia - Copy the contents of that to pastebin
#2557 [17:35] <Dystopia> Aye, captain. Excuse me.
#2558 [17:35] <mortisha> so please help me i loaded it legally
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#2560 [17:36] <Dystopia> GreyVulpine: http://mibpaste.com/r5A6BF
#2561 [17:36] <Boreeas> mortisha: What is your minecraft username?
#2562 [17:36] <mortisha> will buying the game fix my problem
#2563 [17:36] <mortisha> i dont have one i play ofline
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#2565 [17:36] <Boreeas> mortisha: You can't play offline without a username, I think
#2566 [17:37] <Boreeas> GreyVulpine: Correct me if I'm wrong there
#2567 [17:37] <mortisha> no i do it
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#2569 [17:37] <mortisha> i load client click login then playofline
#2570 [17:37] <Boreeas> ??> mortisha teamviewer
#2571 [17:37] <VoxelHead> mortisha: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#2572 [17:37] <VoxelHead> mortisha: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#2573 [17:37] <Boreeas> mortisha: I have to take a closer look at that
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#2575 [17:38] <mortisha> ok
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#2577 [17:38] <Dystopia> Anything, GreyVulpine?
#2578 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Points me to your ATI video drivers Dystopia
#2579 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to update them?
#2580 [17:39] <mortisha> plz dont close any of my tabs i loaded it
#2581 [17:39] <Boreeas> I wont
#2582 [17:39] <Dystopia> I have indeed updated them, sire.
#2583 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Dystopia - From?
#2584 [17:39] <Dystopia> AMD Driver Autodetect/
#2585 [17:39] <Dystopia> .*
#2586 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Dystopia - Could you give me a dxdiag?
#2587 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> ??> Dystopia win/dxdiag
#2588 [17:40] <VoxelHead> Dystopia: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2589 [17:40] <VoxelHead> Dystopia: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2590 [17:40] <Dystopia> GreyVulpine: On it.
#2591 [17:41] <mortisha> i have it
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#2593 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Boreeas - You can't play offline without a premium account
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#2595 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Boreeas - Only way the client downloads files is by having a premium account, or by pirating
#2596 [17:41] <mortisha> i have teamviewer
#2597 [17:42] <Boreeas> mortisha: I send you a PM
#2598 [17:42] <Boreeas> mortisha: Look at the top of your screen, for a tab saying "Boreeas"
#2599 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> mortisha - If you do not have a premium account, then you cannot play minecraft. It's as simple as that
#2600 [17:42] <Dystopia> GreyVulpine: Apparently it's too large of a post?
#2601 [17:42] <mortisha> is your id m24-174-301
#2602 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> Dystopia - Use www.pastebin.com
#2603 [17:43] <Boreeas> mortisha: No, should be walk.freebnc.net
#2604 [17:43] <Dystopia> GreyVulpine: http://pastebin.com/V6kzyLE5
#2605 [17:43] <Boreeas> mortisha: Let's try something else
#2606 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> Thanks, one moment
#2607 [17:43] <Boreeas> mortisha: type /msg Boreeas test
#2608 [17:43] <mortisha> did you see
#2609 [17:44] <Dystopia> GreyVulpine: Take your time.
#2610 [17:44] <mortisha> did you see
#2611 [17:44] <Boreeas> mortisha: Did I see what?
#2612 [17:44] <mortisha> i used minecraft non pirated
#2613 [17:44] <Boreeas> mortisha: I don't see your screen yet
#2614 [17:44] <mortisha> ur using teamviewer right
#2615 [17:44] <Boreeas> mortisha: type /msg Boreeas test
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#2617 [17:45] <mortisha> where do i type it
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#2619 [17:45] <Boreeas> mortisha: In the chat
#2620 [17:46] <mortisha> i did
#2621 [17:46] <mortisha> do you see me yet
#2622 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Dystopia - Hmm, Radeon 9200. As far as I know, that video card cannot run minecraft. You can try and update it by downloading and installing these drivers: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/radeon-prer300-xp.aspx
#2623 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Dystopia - But we've had quite a few people with 9200s, and poor results.
#2624 [17:46] <Boreeas> mortisha: Alright, then we have to do it plain-text. Do you see a field called "id" in the teamviewer window?
#2625 [17:47] <Kimax> dos minecraft servers run on UDP or TCP?
#2626 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> TCP
#2627 [17:47] <Dystopia> GreyVulpine: Many thanks. I will stay in case something unexpected happens.
#2628 [17:47] <mortisha> um yes the id it m24-174-301
#2629 [17:47] <Boreeas> m24? That doesn't sound right
#2630 [17:48] <mortisha> yep
#2631 [17:48] <Boreeas> Should be a number, though
#2632 [17:48] <mortisha> um how dosent it
#2633 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> Teamviewer IDs are 9 digit numbers
#2634 [17:48] <mortisha> i used free license
#2635 [17:49] <Boreeas> mortisha: Doesn't matter
#2636 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Yes, copy the Teamviewer ID field directly, and paste it here.
#2637 [17:49] <JohnEBH> That still doesn't look right...
#2638 [17:49] <JohnEBH> 9 Numbers not Alphanumeric.
#2639 [17:49] <mortisha> m24-174-301
#2640 [17:49] <Boreeas> ...
#2641 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> That's still not right
#2642 [17:49] <Dystopia> ...
#2643 [17:49] <mortisha> its meeting id
#2644 [17:49] <JohnEBH> Wow...
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#2646 [17:49] <JohnEBH> Derp much?
#2647 [17:49] <Boreeas> Wait... meeting?
#2648 [17:50] <JohnEBH> Yeah there's a meeting function...
#2649 [17:50] <mortisha> so
#2650 [17:50] <Boreeas> We don't need a meeting ID, mortisha. Close and reopen teamviewer, and tell us the number youu see on the first screen
#2651 [17:51] <JohnEBH> Switch tabs from meeting (right) to remote control (left)
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#2653 [17:51] <mortisha> ok meeting id m27-953-632
#2654 [17:51] <JohnEBH> It's part of Teamviewer 7
#2655 [17:51] <JohnEBH> And he doesn't need your meeting ID
#2656 [17:51] <Boreeas> mortisha: Not the meeting ID, the other one
#2657 [17:51] <mortisha> what other 1
#2658 [17:52] <Boreeas> mortisha: "[23:51] JohnEBH Switch tabs from meeting (right) to remote control (left)"
#2659 [17:52] <RobinJ24> OH yea by the way
#2660 [17:52] <RobinJ24> does anyone know the default button to list players on a mac?
#2661 [17:52] <RobinJ24> in multiplayer
#2662 [17:52] <JohnEBH> Ta... Mac...
#2663 [17:52] <Boreeas> Tab not working?
#2664 [17:52] <mortisha> ime on windows
#2665 [17:52] <RobinJ24> no
#2666 [17:52] <Boreeas> lolmac
#2667 [17:52] * sugoi thought macs had just one button
#2667 [17:53] <RobinJ24> they do
#2668 [17:53] <RobinJ24> it's gay
#2669 [17:53] <Boreeas> sugoi: "Power off"?
#2670 [17:53] <sugoi> and doesn't that button make everything just work?
#2671 [17:53] <RobinJ24> lol one mouse button on the mouse pad i meant
#2672 [17:53] <sugoi> Boreeas: :)
#2673 [17:53] <RobinJ24> i only use mac in school
#2674 [17:53] <RobinJ24> mostly
#2675 [17:53] <Boreeas> "Lol, screw rightclicks"
#2676 [17:53] <RobinJ24> but its a good computer
#2677 [17:53] <RobinJ24> you can right click if you hold control
#2678 [17:53] <mortisha> so lets set up a meeting
#2679 [17:53] <RobinJ24> which is slightly homo
#2680 [17:54] <Boreeas> mortisha: We don't need a meeting...
#2681 [17:54] <mortisha> we dont
#2682 [17:54] <Omega_Guardian> still, a single button mouse is awful design :P
#2683 [17:54] <RobinJ24> yeah
#2684 [17:54] <mortisha> ime talking about teamviewer
#2685 [17:54] <RobinJ24> i know
#2686 [17:54] <Boreeas> mortisha: We need a remote control session
#2687 [17:54] <mortisha> oh
#2688 [17:54] <mortisha> id 252 239 460
#2689 [17:54] <RobinJ24> but you can use a normal usb mouse with it
#2690 [17:54] <RobinJ24> so its k
#2691 [17:54] <Boreeas> Erh
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#2693 [17:55] <Boreeas> My teamviewer version is too old, and I can't update it Q.Q
#2694 [17:55] <mortisha> the pass is 5084
#2695 [17:55] <sugoi> wow, that took me a really long time to find: http://www.theonion.com/video/apple-introduces-revolutionary-new-laptop-with-no,14299/
#2696 [17:55] <mortisha> whats your id
#2697 [17:55] <sugoi> go back, everyone...so when i asked "one button"
#2698 [17:55] <sugoi> :)
#2699 [17:55] <sugoi> then take my link
#2700 [17:55] <mortisha> boreeas whats your id
#2701 [17:56] * sugoi cries a little when the punch line comes too late
#2701 [17:56] <Boreeas> Does anyone else want to take over mortisha? My teamviewer is too old
#2702 [17:56] <mortisha> oh by the way who is from minecraft help and who isnt
#2703 [17:56] * sugoi is @ work
#2703 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> So are we done here? mortisha hasn't paid for a minecraft account, and thus, can't redownload the files anyways.
#2704 [17:57] <Boreeas> mortisha: All people that have an @ or a + in front of their name are part off the staff. Everyone can help, though
#2705 [17:57] <Boreeas> mortisha: No one here belongs to mojang, though
#2706 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> If they're able to get the files again, they're either sharing an account with somebody who has, or they pirated minecraft from somewhere else.
#2707 [17:58] <mortisha> oh
#2708 [17:58] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: this whole time to get the files and it wasn't premium?
#2709 [17:58] <Boreeas> GreyVulpine: I actually wanted to get visual evidence/see how he did it. But seeing as teamviewer dosn't work
#2710 [17:58] <mortisha> can i atleast show ime not pirating it
#2711 [17:59] <mortisha> i can show the evidence that i dint pirate it
#2712 [17:59] <Boreeas> mortisha: You don't have a minecraft account. There is no way for you to legally download the files.
#2713 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> There are no ways of getting the minecraft files without paying for, and logging in with a premium account
#2714 [17:59] <mortisha> i did ut ok i can show you ligit files
#2715 [17:59] <Omega_Guardian> if username is different then your name here then the bot thing that checks won't get it right
#2716 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> "mortisha" is a default mibbit name
#2717 [18:00] <mortisha> um
#2718 [18:00] * sugoi laughs at mibbit
#2718 [18:00] <mortisha> ime not tech savy
#2719 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> mortisha - If you want to play minecraft, buy an account.
#2720 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> That's really all I can say.
#2721 [18:00] <mortisha> ok so can we get on with this i loaded 1.8 if that makes a difference
#2722 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> You.. "loaded" 1.8?
#2723 [18:01] <mortisha> get on teamviewer ile show u
#2724 [18:01] <Boreeas> ;kick mortisha Yar har, fiddle di dee, Being a pirate is alright to be, Do what you want ‘cause a pirate is free, You are a pirate!
#2725 [18:01] * WugBot kicked mortisha from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ortisha :Yar har, fiddle di dee, Being a pirate is alright to be, Do what you want ‘cause a pirate is free, You are a pirate!)
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#2727 [18:01] <Boreeas> /discussion
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#2729 [18:01] <sugoi> what are parents teaching their children these days
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#2731 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> More like, children teaching parents.
#2732 [18:02] <sugoi> haha...sadly,i think you're right
#2733 [18:02] <sluggo> I bouight the game but it says i did not get is i have tried this 2 times
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#2735 [18:03] <sluggo> the game says i never bought it but i did
#2736 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Have you called your credit card or bank to confirm that money was withdrawn?
#2737 [18:05] <sluggo> yes they said i was never bought but on the wbsite it siad to wait 1 hour. i have waited 24
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#2739 [18:05] <Dystopia> If the money was never withdrawn it doesn't hurt to buy it again?
#2740 [18:05] <ModHelpee> never mind >.>
#2741 [18:06] <sluggo> whem i try to play it said "user nor Premium"
#2742 [18:06] <RobinJ24> Are you?
#2743 [18:06] <sluggo> i tyed to buy it 2 times
#2744 [18:06] <sluggo> i tried to buy it 2 times
#2745 [18:06] <RobinJ24> ah...
#2746 [18:06] * RobinJ24 leaves this to the payment experts
#2746 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - If your bank has said the money never was transferred, then you have not bought minecraft
#2747 [18:07] <sluggo> i know, but i've tried it with 2 different credi cards
#2748 [18:08] <sluggo> i have 2 go bye
#2749 [18:08] <sluggo> i have 2 go bye
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#2751 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Then...
#2752 [18:08] * GreyVulpine pffts
#2752 [18:08] <Boreeas> wut
#2753 [18:08] <Boreeas> :P
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#2755 [18:08] <Boreeas> "I want help, but I can't wait to receive it"
#2756 [18:08] <iPixeli> lol
#2757 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> The bane of any IRC help channel.
#2758 [18:10] <Dystopia> This has been a turn of unfortunate events, GreyVulpine, the download you suggest did not work. Shall I post the new Error into Pastebin?
#2759 [18:10] <Dystopia> This has been a turn of unfortunate events, GreyVulpine, the download you suggest did not work. Shall I post the new Error into Pastebin?
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#2762 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, there's not much else I can offer you Dystopia. If that driver didn't work, then I'm pretty sure your video card can't handle minecraft.
#2763 [18:12] <Dystopia> T'is indeed, unfortunate.
#2764 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> The only other alternative is to try a third party driver, like omega's... but I don't know how well they'll work
#2765 [18:13] <Dystopia> It was a tad more successful though. It actually made it to the loading screen.
#2766 [18:13] <Dystopia> Shall I install TeamViewer for further investigation?
#2767 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Pastebin the latest error report?
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#2771 [18:17] <Dystopia> GreyVulpine: http://mibpaste.com/NyN4Nj
#2772 [18:17] <Dystopia> Sorry for the wait, lagged.
#2773 [18:18] <shane> I have the premium account and currently using minecraft 1.0.0. How can I get minecraft 1.1_02
#2774 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> shane - 1.0.0 is the latest version of minecraft
#2775 [18:18] <RobinJ24> maybe 1.1_02 is the snapshot?
#2776 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Dystopia - Yeah, it's still showing your video drivers at fault. Unfortunately, this means that your video card is just too old to run minecraft
#2777 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> RobinJ24 - Snapshops are of the form..
#2778 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> ?? snapshot
#2779 [18:19] <VoxelHead> snapshot: Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/11w50a/minecraft.jar
#2780 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> 11w50a, not 1.1_02
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#2782 [18:19] <RobinJ24> ah
#2783 [18:19] <Dystopia> Ffs. New laptop on Christmas. I can wait 9 days.
#2784 [18:20] <Dystopia> Hopefully..
#2785 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Heh, it'll be worth the wait.
#2786 [18:20] <Dystopia> I concur to that, my friend.
#2787 [18:22] <RobinJ24> We celebrate christmas 1 day earlier in sweden
#2788 [18:22] <RobinJ24> I will get my presents before you
#2789 [18:22] <Dystopia> :(
#2790 [18:22] <RobinJ24> I will take pictures of me with my presents and send them to you on the 24th
#2791 [18:23] <Dystopia> Son, I am disappoint. :(
#2792 [18:25] <Dystopia> in myself.. :(
#2793 [18:26] <RobinJ24> Me too...
#2794 [18:26] <RobinJ24> You suck...
#2795 [18:26] <RobinJ24> :(
#2796 [18:26] <Dystopia> I know. And my video drivers can't even run minecraft! Wah.
#2797 [18:26] <RobinJ24> Mine can
#2798 [18:27] <RobinJ24> I'll go play some minecraft just cause I can
#2799 [18:27] <Dystopia> Take a video of it, and show me?
#2800 [18:27] <Dystopia> It's some form of compensation. :(
#2801 [18:27] <RobinJ24> my computer sucks too much :(
#2802 [18:27] <RobinJ24> i will give you a screenshot :(
#2803 [18:27] <Dystopia> Mine doesn't, I'll go take a video cause I can.
#2804 [18:27] <Dystopia> Jk. :(
#2805 [18:27] <RobinJ24> :)
#2806 [18:27] <RobinJ24> I probably can on my mac
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#2809 [18:31] <RobinJ24> goddamn i never got a screenshot and I closed minecraft...
#2810 [18:31] <RobinJ24> fml...
#2811 [18:31] <mib_x43t2t> help me i just tried to play for the first time and it says i need my pixel format upgraded what can i do
#2812 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> mib_x43t2t - Do you know how to update your video drivers?
#2813 [18:32] <mib_x43t2t> no how
#2814 [18:32] <shane> what version of minecraft is the most recent?
#2815 [18:32] <mib_x43t2t> idk
#2816 [18:32] <Dystopia> Shane - 1.0.0
#2817 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> 1.0.0 is the latest version of minecraft
#2818 [18:33] <mib_x43t2t> how do i upgrde pixel
#2819 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> mib_x43t2t - What operating system are you on? Windows? MacOS? Linux? AmigaOS?
#2820 [18:33] <mib_x43t2t> stuff
#2821 [18:33] <mib_x43t2t> windos
#2822 [18:33] <shane> thanks
#2823 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> mib_x43t2t - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#2824 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_x43t2t win/dxdiag
#2825 [18:33] <VoxelHead> mib_x43t2t: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2826 [18:33] <mib_x43t2t> huh
#2827 [18:33] <VoxelHead> mib_x43t2t: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2828 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> mib_x43t2t - Follow VoxelHead's instructions
#2829 [18:33] <mib_x43t2t> ok
#2830 [18:36] <mib_x43t2t> idk wtf is going on im pizzed
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#2832 [18:37] <Scott> lol.
#2833 [18:37] <Dystopia> Mib_x43t2t: Go to your start bar, then hit Run. After that, type "dxdiag" in the box, no quotations.
#2834 [18:38] <Dystopia> Mib_x43t2t: Once you've done tha- Oh. Okay.
#2835 [18:38] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2835 [18:38] <Dystopia> I'm heartbroken now. </3
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#2839 [18:46] <montezuma> how do i make a server?
#2840 [18:46] <montezuma> or join one/
#2841 [18:46] <montezuma> ?
#2842 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#2843 [18:47] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2844 [18:47] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2845 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Head to one of those sites to get a list of servers to join
#2846 [18:47] <montezuma> ok thnx but what if i wanted to make one how would i do that?
#2847 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Server binary is available at minecraft.net/download
#2848 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> How-tos are available. One is at:
#2849 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/serversetup
#2850 [18:47] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: Lots of information here:
#2851 [18:47] <montezuma> ok thank you
#2852 [18:48] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2853 [18:49] <Dystopia> I'm on the idle list, since that person left. :(
#2854 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Mibbit's active/inactive list is a little silly.
#2855 [18:52] <montezuma> on the list to make a sever its asking to run XP what is that?
#2856 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Run XP?
#2857 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Where do you see this?
#2858 [18:53] <montezuma> on Verify and Install the Latest version of Java
#2859 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Ah, to pull up the "Run" command, head to your start menu -> Run
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#2861 [18:55] <montezuma> o ok thanxs
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#2870 [19:07] <aliendoor> I've got a billing question, is this the right place?
#2871 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> What billing question specifically?
#2872 [19:08] <aliendoor> I purchased a gift code with paypal, got an error, got billed, but did not get a code (on the site or in email)
#2873 [19:09] <aliendoor> what should i do?
#2874 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> If you purchased a gift code directly from minecraft.net, and have checked that it doesn't show up in your email or your minecraft.net profile page, then send an email to help@mojang.com
#2875 [19:10] <aliendoor> alright, thanks!
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#2877 [19:12] <Dystopia> Yawn. There is no Yogscast chat. How unfortunate.
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#2879 [19:17] <JasonBreen> im getting black screen after joining my minecraft hamachi server. how do i fix this?
#2880 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> We don't support servers run on Hamachi.
#2881 [19:17] <JasonBreen> well what would cause black screen
#2882 [19:18] <JohnEBH> Have you tried it without hamachi?
#2883 [19:18] <JasonBreen> no
#2884 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Hamachi adds a layer of needless network complexity that could do it. Mods could do it.
#2885 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Security software could do it
#2886 [19:20] <TheNoodle> JasonBreen, try connecting to a server that doesn't require hamachi.
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#2888 [19:20] <montezuma> what does it mean by creating text document with no formatting (italics, boldface, etc.).
#2889 [19:20] <Omega_Guardian> raw ASCII I assume
#2890 [19:21] <montezuma> which is?
#2891 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> Letters and numbers and symbols
#2892 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> Absolutely nothing else, no colors, no bold/italics/underline, no formatting symbols
#2893 [19:22] <montezuma> so i could type random numbers and letters in note pad? is that what its asking me to do?
#2894 [19:22] <montezuma> or its talking about the cmd?
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#2897 [19:24] <fez> help
#2898 [19:25] <TheNoodle> Notepad is fine montezuma.
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#2900 [19:25] <TheNoodle> :ask > fez
#2901 [19:25] <WugBot> fez: (ask) Don't ask to ask, just ask without asking to ask before asking.
#2902 [19:25] <WugBot> fez: (ask) Don't ask to ask, just ask without asking to ask before asking.
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#2905 [19:26] <fez> Whenever i try to join the minecraft server Mineolator.net it gets stuck on "downloading terrain" and then it times out, it just started this and idk how to fix it, i uninstalled and reinstalled it but tht didnt work, its only happening when i try to join mineolator.net
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#2907 [19:26] <montezuma> ? so i type this in note pad cause this is what its tell me # Open up Notepad (not Wordpad) to create a text document with no formatting (italics, boldface, etc.). # Identify your Windows OS type (32-bit or 64-bit), which may be done through the Control Panel. Also, identify which version of Java you are running--32 bit or 64 bit. # Based on your OS and Java
#2908 [19:26] <albert> mac experr?
#2909 [19:27] <albert> expert*
#2910 [19:28] <albert> ?
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#2912 [19:28] <fez> i was running a 32-bit but i just installed a 64-bit but that didnt fix it
#2913 [19:28] <fez> oh, and its only on my name, but when i type in some other name i can join the server
#2914 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay for minecraft?
#2915 [19:30] <albert> Are there a mac expert
#2916 [19:30] <fez> nooo, but this has never happened to me before
#2917 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> If you have not purchased minecraft, you have no authority to ask for help concerning a paid for product.
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#2919 [19:31] <fez> dude i dont have a freakin credit card, what am i supposed to do???
#2920 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> Open a bank account. Link a paypal account to it. Have a relative or friend or parent pay for a gift code. Have somebody else with a credit card pay for an account
#2921 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> If you choose to pirate a game, don't expect people who have paid for the game themselves, to help you on it
#2922 [19:33] <fez> sure im gonna go to the bank...im sure they will let a 16 year old open a bank account
#2923 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> I had a bank account in my teens.
#2924 [19:33] <Mattz0r> as did i
#2925 [19:33] <fez> im sure your parents opened it for you
#2926 [19:33] <Mattz0r> fez: it's christmas in a week...
#2927 [19:34] <fez> well help me out :D its christmas in a week
#2928 [19:34] <Mattz0r> yeah
#2929 [19:34] <Mattz0r> "mom, please can you buy me minecraft for christmas"
#2930 [19:34] <Mattz0r> job done.
#2931 [19:34] <fez> :l
#2932 [19:34] <clarjon1> hah!
#2933 [19:35] <Mattz0r> ;)
#2934 [19:37] <fez> i just bought it >:( it better have been worth 26 freakin dollars...now i have to wait a damn hour....
#2935 [19:37] <montezuma> lol its worth it
#2936 [19:37] <montezuma> but not setting up server
#2937 [19:37] <montezuma> i dont get anyhting its telling me to do
#2938 [19:38] <montezuma> so im giving up
#2939 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Why not just run minecraft_server.exe from minecraft.net/download?
#2940 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> If you're behind a router, just port forward 25565/TCP to your internal IP address
#2941 [19:38] <fez> can i get my help now?? it still wont connect to the server with my name
#2942 [19:39] <montezuma> wow it was really that simple huh i will try that instead
#2943 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> fez - Tell the server's admin to delete your player.dat profile from the server's world/players/ directory
#2944 [19:39] <montezuma> thnx
#2945 [19:39] <fez> will that erase my buildings??
#2946 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> No, just your player inventory
#2947 [19:39] <fez> what about the permissions i already had on it?
#2948 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> that, I don't know
#2949 [19:41] <Mattz0r> fez: depends on what permissions plugin they use, but it *should* still remain there
#2950 [19:42] <fez> im tryin to find out
#2951 [19:42] <montezuma> it now tells me lost connection and unknown host what do i do to fix this?
#2952 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> montezuma - If you're on the same computer as the server, use "127.0.0.1"
#2953 [19:43] <montezuma> were do i type that?
#2954 [19:43] <montezuma> in minecraft server right?
#2955 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> In your client
#2956 [19:45] <montezuma> which is what? im lost sorry
#2957 [19:45] <Mattz0r> Client = minecraft game
#2958 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> The minecraft.exe that you run to play the game. Launch the game -> Multiplayer -> direct connect
#2959 [19:46] <montezuma> o kk
#2960 [19:47] <montezuma> thank you so much
#2961 [19:47] <montezuma> ya a big help see ya
#2962 [19:47] <montezuma> and happy hoildays
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#2964 [19:50] <montezuma> so in this server people can join me?
#2965 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Only if you port forwarded
#2966 [19:50] <montezuma> what that mean?
#2967 [19:50] <tdb30_> I can't seem to get clasic running from the web page. Is there something I'm doing wrong. I'm getting the regular game for christmas but I want to get some time with the game before then
#2968 [19:51] <tdb30_> I've tried on several computers.
#2969 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> montezuma - If you're on a home connection with a router, you'll need to set up your router to direct minecraft traffic to your personal computer
#2970 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> montezuma - See portforward.com if you do not know how to set up your router
#2971 [19:51] <montezuma> but im on a laptop so how that work and its wireless
#2972 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> tdb30_ - are you on a mac?
#2973 [19:52] <tdb30_> I've tried it on windows and linux
#2974 [19:52] <fez> i downloaded some texture packs before it quit working could they have anything to do with it?
#2975 [19:52] <tdb30_> on windows I tried with ie and firefox.
#2976 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> fez - Could be. HD texture packs have been known to do this
#2977 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> tdb30_ - Make sure Java is up to date. We recommend Java 6. Also make sure your video drivers are up to date
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#2979 [19:53] <fez> then that might be why
#2980 [19:53] <tdb30_> You need good video drivers for the game? Humm. My computers are laptops that are a couple years old will they not work with it?
#2981 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Depends.
#2982 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> A video card, a piece of hardware, is different from a video card driver.
#2983 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> The latter, you can update as a piece of software.
#2984 [19:54] <fez> I FIXED IT
#2985 [19:54] <fez> YESSS
#2986 [19:55] <fez> IT WAS A BROKEN TEXTURE PACK >:(
#2987 [19:55] <montezuma> were could i find ids of items?
#2988 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> See minecraftwiki.com --> look up data valies
#2989 [19:55] <montezuma> k ty
#2990 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> er, data values
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#2992 [19:57] <fez> thanks for the help guys happy holidays
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#2996 [20:12] <mib_bni8bq> umm how do i know if people can join me or not?
#2997 [20:17] <mib_bni8bq> ?
#2998 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> http://canyouseeme.org/ --- put in port 25565
#2999 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> It'll tell you if the website can see the server running on that port.
#3000 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> If it's closed, nobody can join you. If it's open, then yes
#3001 [20:18] <mib_bni8bq> k
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#3003 [20:20] <mib_bni8bq> it said connection timed out
#3004 [20:21] <Santa22> I would like to buy this game for my son. Does it run on a mac?
#3005 [20:22] <mib_bni8bq> i retired it but it says Connection timed out what do i do and what does it mean?
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#3007 [20:23] <Santa22> Do you play online or download the game?
#3008 [20:24] <Dystopia> Santa22: I do believe it runs on Mac. And you can do either.
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#3010 [20:26] <Santa22> If I buy a "gift code", what does this give him? Is it for the whole game or some add on element?
#3011 [20:27] <Dystopia> Santa22: By buying a Gift Code, it's essentially the same.
#3012 [20:27] <Dystopia> Santa22: It's just basically more in gift form. The gameplay will be completely the same.
#3013 [20:27] <Santa22> How can 'Santa' buy the game for him without him knowing about it before Christmas?
#3014 [20:28] <mib_bni8bq> block website then unblock it on christmas eve?
#3015 [20:28] <mib_bni8bq> that might work for ya
#3016 [20:29] <Dystopia> Santa22: It's a matter of telling him. If you both have access to the same computer, its a matter of wiping the history. If not, just don't tell him anything until that day.
#3017 [20:29] <Dystopia> Blocking the website is a little over the top.
#3018 [20:29] <mib_bni8bq> well its a idea
#3019 [20:29] <Dystopia> And a valid one at that, but there are more simple approaches.
#3020 [20:29] <mib_bni8bq> true
#3021 [20:30] <Santa22> If i buy the game, can i download it later? Can i download it on more than one computer?
#3022 [20:30] <mib_bni8bq> yes
#3023 [20:30] <Dystopia> Santa22: Yes and yes. You can download it later on, you could buy it and never download it. And you can download it on as many computers as you wanted.
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#3025 [20:32] <Santa22> So i could just make a new account, buy the game (but not dowload on my computer) and then give him the account sign on at xmas? Would that work?
#3026 [20:32] <Dystopia> Santa22: That would work perfectly.
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#3028 [20:33] <Santa22> That's great. Thanks for helping Santa's Helper!
#3029 [20:33] <Dystopia> Santa22: Not a problem, have a wonderful christmas and I hope your son enjoys the gifts you give him! :)
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#3031 [20:34] <Santa22> Merry Christmas to you! Im
#3032 [20:34] <Santa22> I'm glad there is at least one game that is not about shooting things or people!!!
#3033 [20:35] <Dystopia> Santa22: Amen to that! I'm sure you'll son will enjoy Minecraft.
#3034 [20:36] <Santa22> Thanks, again. I'm off. Cheers!
#3035 [20:36] <Dystopia> Santa22: You're very welcome. Cheers.
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#3038 [20:40] <mib_qm9n9m> whenever i log in to minecraft it seems to run fine then when i select a world to play on it ay renerating world then it says saving chunks before i even play and the screen goes black, this all happened when i got the new update i lost my internet and was playing offline for a while then when i got it back it updated and that started happening :/ what do i d
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#3040 [20:40] <Cymen> I bought Minecraft today and now it says I have to wait 5 days...what?
#3041 [20:41] <Dystopia> Cymen: Elaborate, please. How did it SAY?
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#3043 [20:41] <Dystopia> Cymen: Email, dialog box?
#3044 [20:41] <mermi> what do i dooooooooooooooooooo
#3045 [20:41] <Cymen> I mean I waited for the confirmation e-mail, checked the support page and it says I might have to wait 5 days
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#3047 [20:42] <Cymen> I did not get an e-mail confirming my purchase
#3048 [20:42] <Cymen> I did not receive premium status
#3049 [20:42] <Cymen> how do I know if the transaction was successful?
#3050 [20:42] <lemon-rev> ring the bank
#3051 [20:42] <Cymen> wow so I do have to wait 3 days
#3052 [20:42] <mermi> i just wanna play mincraft and im sick of the lack screen.. did mine even send D:
#3053 [20:43] <Dystopia> Cymen: Was anything withdrawn from your bank?
#3054 [20:43] <lemon-rev> mermi have you updated java ?
#3055 [20:43] <Cymen> my bank usually doesn't open at 2 am
#3056 [20:43] <Cymen> yes i have
#3057 [20:43] <Cymen> +updated java
#3058 [20:43] <Dystopia> Cymen: Check your junk-mail.
#3059 [20:43] <lemon-rev> i was talking to mermi
#3060 [20:43] <lemon-rev> lol
#3061 [20:43] <Cymen> I noticed, sorry
#3062 [20:44] <Cymen> nope no junk mail
#3063 [20:44] <Dystopia> Mermi: dxdiag?
#3064 [20:44] <Dystopia> ?? dxdiag
#3065 [20:44] <Dystopia> ffs
#3066 [20:44] <mermi> im think so
#3067 [20:45] <mermi> WTF *i
#3068 [20:45] <Cymen> does it send the e-mail when Mojang has received money or when the purchase was made?
#3069 [20:46] <mermi> k what even i dxdiag
#3070 [20:46] <Dystopia> ffs. I'm dumb. Anyway. Mermi: Go to Start > Run, type dxdiag > Then click Save Information, then copy and paste the contents into Pastebin and send.
#3071 [20:46] <mermi> *is
#3072 [20:46] <Dystopia> pastebin.com
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#3074 [20:47] <lemon-rev> dystopia try /?? name win/dxdiag :P
#3075 [20:47] <mermi> wait where?
#3076 [20:48] <lemon-rev> mermi winds 7 or xp
#3077 [20:48] <Dystopia> Mermi: Go to your START menu, then click RUN. After you've clicked RUN, type DXDIAG, after that, the dxdiag should pop up, and then hit SAVE INFORMATION. Upon doing that, it should make a notepad on your mainscreen, go to the Notepad and copy and paste the information there into PASTEBIN.COM after you submit that, Copy and Paste the contents of the Pastebin h
#3078 [20:48] <Cymen> so I can buy, download, install and play Skyrim within an hour but Minecraft takes 5 days for the transaction?
#3079 [20:48] <mermi> the only problem is im on mac :'( my mum bought me one for christmas and im saving up for a pc
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#3081 [20:49] <lemon-rev> cymen it can take up to 5 days depends on how the transaction was done
#3082 [20:49] <Dystopia> I know you can Play Minecraft on a MAC, but I'm unfamiliar with the layout of a mac. Someone care to take over?
#3083 [20:49] <Dystopia> :(
#3084 [20:50] <mermi> :/
#3085 [20:50] <Cymen> how? like I always do. and Steam takes 30 secs
#3086 [20:51] <lemon-rev> cymen because certain transactins take time to perferm, and also it depends on how mojang does its accepting of bank requests and whatnot,
#3087 [20:52] <Cymen> everyone I talked to could play within 5 minutes
#3088 [20:52] <lemon-rev> cymen as i said it depnds on how you payed for it
#3089 [20:52] <Cymen> instant online transaction
#3090 [20:53] <lemon-rev> cymen as soon as mojang processes the payment you will get premun not a moment before or after
#3091 [20:53] <lemon-rev> leave it at that
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#3094 [20:54] <Cymen> that is some bullcrap. I never had any isues with any other company when I make online transactions.
#3095 [20:55] <billythekid2525> well you know theres a first for every thing
#3096 [20:55] <Cymen> and people wonder why gamers pirate indie-games...
#3097 [20:55] <lemon-rev> cymen stop winging and just put up with the fact that mojang has its own way of doing things and other has theres so just take it as it is
#3098 [20:55] <lemon-rev> cymen now your just being stupid
#3099 [20:55] <billythekid2525> yep
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#3102 [20:59] <Cymen> "their own way of doing things"? and that includes delaying distribution of the product I payed for?
#3103 [20:59] <lemon-rev> cymen, your not thinking stright when your bank opens ring them and ask them to tell you the f'ing truth of the matter
#3104 [21:00] <Pkkid> Minecraft 1.0 no sound ??
#3105 [21:00] <lemon-rev> pkkid open options and turn it up, then make sure the sound on the computer is turned up as well
#3106 [21:00] <quibbit> How does one get this game to actually work? After I log in, there is simply a black screen
#3107 [21:00] <lemon-rev> lol
#3108 [21:00] <Pkkid> New
#3109 [21:00] <lemon-rev> quibbit quit the game goto java.com and update
#3110 [21:00] <lemon-rev> then try again
#3111 [21:00] <quibbit> I did
#3112 [21:01] <lemon-rev> quibbit windows ?
#3113 [21:01] <quibbit> yes
#3114 [21:01] <lemon-rev> ??> quibbit win/dxdiag
#3115 [21:01] <VoxelHead> quibbit: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3116 [21:01] <VoxelHead> quibbit: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3117 [21:02] <Pkkid> I just bought this game and the sound has not worked. If I attempt to turn sound on the game crashes.
#3118 [21:02] <lemon-rev> pddid windows ?
#3119 [21:02] <Pkkid> Windows seven professional
#3120 [21:03] <lemon-rev> pkkid vollow what vox just said
#3121 [21:03] <Pkkid> sound works fine everywhere else
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#3123 [21:03] <Cymen> I hate it when things don't go as planned because other people are not being professional. sigh
#3124 [21:04] <Cymen> and my thread is just getting trolled
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#3126 [21:04] <lemon-rev> cymen thats because of your silly arguments that you just have to accept that when it goes though on mojangs payment process then you will get premium
#3127 [21:04] <lemon-rev> ok
#3128 [21:04] <lemon-rev> leave it at that, unless you want to keep being put down,
#3129 [21:04] <lemon-rev> leave it at that, unless you want to keep being put down,
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#3131 [21:05] <Cymen> "silly arguments"? any other company managed to deliver.
#3132 [21:06] <lemon-rev> cymen, what it is, is what it only can be, from your bank to mojang and the process could be conflicked by verious things, stop complaining
#3133 [21:07] <quibbit> Stupid question, is this the IRC channel I paste into?
#3134 [21:07] <lemon-rev> yup
#3135 [21:07] <quibbit> http://pastebin.com/0q2Dy4Rs
#3136 [21:08] <Pkkid> Ok VoxelHead copy pasted submitted.
#3137 [21:10] <Cymen> I hope they invest some of their money into cleaning up their act
#3138 [21:10] <lemon-rev> quibbit http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx < please go here and select step 1 : notepad ,. step 2, radeon hd, step 3 auto detect and go display results
#3139 [21:11] <lemon-rev> cymen just stop while your behind, and just get on with other game
#3140 [21:11] <lemon-rev> lol
#3141 [21:14] <Cymen> I just hate when someone is late on their side of a bargain. that is all
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#3143 [21:15] <lemon-rev> cymen it might not be that, it could be the bank doing the transfer at that time of night, it could be mojang taking its time, ir could be verious things
#3144 [21:15] <lemon-rev> i said before
#3145 [21:15] <lemon-rev> give up
#3146 [21:16] <Pkkid> any ideas?
#3147 [21:16] <lemon-rev> pkkid did you do a dxdiag ?
#3148 [21:17] <Pkkid> Yes
#3149 [21:17] <Cymen> I guess I'll just get the humble indie bundle....FOR A RIDICULOUSLY LOW PRICE MUAHAHAHA
#3150 [21:17] <quibbit> "We were unable to find your product or os." For step one I used notebook, there was no notepad option
#3151 [21:17] <Pkkid> and I sent it
#3152 [21:17] <lemon-rev> step 1, theres a drop down menu, and it says desktop, laptop
#3153 [21:18] <lemon-rev> and your running xp
#3154 [21:18] <lemon-rev> i think
#3155 [21:18] <lemon-rev> not sure
#3156 [21:21] <Dystopia> Pkkid: You have to post the link here.
#3157 [21:23] <quibbit> Step 1 dropdown menu contains: Desktop graphics, notebook graphics, tv tuner products, workstation graphics, integrated motherboard graphics, embedded graphics, and MAC graphics
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#3159 [21:23] <Pkkid> http://pastebin.com/CpBusXyJ
#3160 [21:24] <Pkkid> is that better? Now I feel like a full.
#3161 [21:25] <lemon-rev> ok pkkid and your gtting a black screen ?
#3162 [21:25] <lemon-rev> thats what i wanted to see yes
#3163 [21:25] <Pkkid> :-)
#3164 [21:25] <lemon-rev> pkkid what java version do you have ?
#3165 [21:26] <Pkkid> where do you find out?
#3166 [21:26] <Dystopia> Add/Remove programs could tell you.
#3167 [21:26] <Pkkid> Be back in a minute
#3168 [21:26] <Dystopia> We will await your return, sire.
#3169 [21:27] <lemon-rev> dystopia he might have the 32 bit one , he also needsd the 64 bit
#3170 [21:28] <quibbit> I have 6.0.300 if that helps for my situation
#3171 [21:28] <lemon-rev> hum, so java is now up to 6.30 wow, last time i looked it was 6.29
#3172 [21:29] <lemon-rev> quibbit is that 32bit or 64bit ?
#3173 [21:29] <lemon-rev> you might want to install both
#3174 [21:29] <quibbit> i'm unsure
#3175 [21:29] <lemon-rev> hm, im trying to find the links for 64 bit as well
#3176 [21:30] <lemon-rev> http://java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml < near the bottem of the page
#3177 [21:30] <Pkkid> all I see is 32-bit
#3178 [21:30] <Pkkid> I am running in 64-bit mode for most things
#3179 [21:31] <lemon-rev> ok,
#3180 [21:31] <lemon-rev> well test minecraft again for us ?
#3181 [21:31] <lemon-rev> well test minecraft again for us ?
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#3183 [21:31] <Pkkid> I'll be back after I've downloaded, and let you know
#3184 [21:32] <lemon-rev> k
#3185 [21:32] <quibbit> so my IE is 128 bit. i'm confused
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#3187 [21:33] <lemon-rev> hm,
#3188 [21:33] <lemon-rev> your broswr is maybe 32 + 64 bit, could be the issue, not sure why its 128 bit though
#3189 [21:39] <quibbit> back to the AMD driver autodetect thing, its unable to detect
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#3191 [21:44] <Pkkid> well it was a good try
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#3193 [21:44] <Pkkid> we go into settings for sound the sound is turned off
#3194 [21:45] <Pkkid> if I tried to turn on. The program crashes
#3195 [21:45] <Pkkid> apparently I will just delete until there's an update
#3196 [21:45] <Pkkid> filed a lot of people seem to have the same problem
#3197 [21:46] <Pkkid> thanks for your travel. Have a good day.
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#3199 [21:50] <|Kiikun|Janus|> lemon-rev: when he said 128bit.. he probably ment the encryption.
#3200 [21:51] <|Kiikun|Janus|> has nothing to do with the browsers runnign bittage
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#3202 [21:51] <quibbit> ok I'm back
#3203 [21:52] <quibbit> Is there anyone here helping anymore?
#3204 [22:02] * mib_0cej9f [mib_0cej9f@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3205 [22:04] <mib_0cej9f> ive downloaded game but when i try to open it it asked me for whatfile i want to use to open itand then i tells me that security registry cant be verified and wont open it due to security
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#3208 [22:06] <Devin708> I purchased Minecraft but the game won't download, what am I doing wrong?
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#3211 [22:17] <wippler> Hi plz help
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#3214 [22:19] <frogonia> ?
#3215 [22:20] <frogonia> Hello
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#3218 [22:21] <frogonia> i needs help. I was impatient and downloaded a pre-release n now since its been updated cant play anymore... what do i do????
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#3221 [22:21] <TAlex_27> help plz
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#3223 [22:22] <mib_jxvqqh> help plz
#3224 [22:23] <frogonia> im still waiting for my help....
#3225 [22:23] <mib_jxvqqh> help plzzzzz
#3226 [22:24] <frogonia> ok ive decided this thing here is bullshit minecraft.net doesnt give a fuck if your minecraft client is broken. dueces.
#3227 [22:24] * AuBot kicked frogonia from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rogonia :Please keep it civil.)
#3228 [22:25] <mib_jxvqqh> help plz
#3229 [22:25] <mib_jxvqqh> fuck this it isnt help you bitches
#3230 [22:25] * AuBot kicked mib_jxvqqh from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_jxvqqh :Please keep it civil.)
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#3234 [22:30] <mib_bw0u42> Servers :(
#3235 [22:30] <mib_bw0u42> Servers :(
#3236 [22:30] <mib_bw0u42> Servers :(
#3237 [22:30] <mib_bw0u42> that is my problem...
#3238 [22:31] <mib_bw0u42> Servers :(
#3239 [22:31] <quibbit> Anyone here offering help?
#3240 [22:31] <mib_bw0u42> that is my problem...
#3241 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> i found this great server that is trustworthy yet my dad says he wants "information" on it...
#3242 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> any suggestions?
#3243 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> apparently not : )
#3244 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> Servers :(
#3245 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> that is my problem...
#3246 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> i found this great server that is trustworthy yet my dad says he wants "information" on it...
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#3248 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> apparently not : )
#3249 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> Servers :(
#3250 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> that is my problem...
#3251 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> i found this great server that is trustworthy yet my dad says he wants "information" on it...
#3252 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> any suggestions?
#3253 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> apparently not : )
#3254 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> laggy?
#3255 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> Servers :(
#3256 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> that is my problem...
#3257 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> apparently not : )
#3258 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> laggy?
#3259 [22:32] <mib_bw0u42> Servers :(
#3260 [22:33] <mib_bw0u42> laggy?
#3261 [22:33] <mib_bw0u42> wtheck
#3262 [22:33] <mib_bw0u42> SOMEONE ANYONE PLEASE RESPOND!
#3263 [22:33] <mib_bw0u42> Servers :(
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#3265 [22:34] <TAlex_27> help plz
#3266 [22:34] <TAlex_27> hurry plz
#3267 [22:35] <TAlex_27> plzz hurry
#3268 [22:36] <TAlex_27> i need help really bad plzzz
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#3270 [22:36] <TAlex_27> :(
#3271 [22:36] <TAlex_27> :(
#3272 [22:36] <TAlex_27> huury the hell up
#3273 [22:36] <TAlex_27> plz
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#3275 [22:37] <johnii> I need a water expert! ;D
#3276 [22:38] <quibbit> Can someone help my black screen issue?
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#3278 [22:40] <FredOfSmith> can you run a 1.0 server with creative on?
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#3280 [22:43] <johnii> FredOfSmith I don't know why not. You just edit the server.properties
#3281 [22:44] <FredOfSmith> what command do you use to bring up the list of items to use? Cannot get it to work
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#3284 [22:46] <JesseJ> Hello could I ask a question?
#3285 [22:46] <tyteen4a03> JessJ: Yes?
#3286 [22:46] <JesseJ> Alright I am having a crashing problem with minecraft
#3287 [22:47] <johnii> FredOfSmith Um…what items to you mean? If you edit the server.properties gamemode is one of the options.
#3288 [22:47] <JesseJ> After a couple minutes it just shuts down
#3289 [22:47] <tyteen4a03> JessJ: shuts down the whole computer or just Minecraft itself?
#3290 [22:47] <JesseJ> Lol I havent yet Ill go try that
#3291 [22:47] <JesseJ> Thank you
#3292 [22:48] <ccstudio> lol
#3293 [22:48] <tyteen4a03> really...?
#3294 [22:48] <ccstudio> he's a smart one
#3295 [22:49] <FredOfSmith> gamemode is set to 1 creative
#3296 [22:49] <FredOfSmith> in that mode I thoight you could bring up a list of items to use
#3297 [22:49] <johnii> FredOfSmith, that I don't know. I haven't tried creaive mode actually. :P
#3298 [22:50] <johnii> FredOfSmith, I've only been Minecrafting for 7 days...
#3299 [22:50] <FredOfSmith> :D and I cannot fine a simple SMP creative guide on the net
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#3301 [22:50] <tyteen4a03> FredOfSmith: I or B?
#3302 [22:50] <johnii> SMP stands for SurvialMultiplayer
#3303 [22:50] <tyteen4a03> can't remember but it must be one of them
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#3305 [22:56] <ccstudio> anybody here use linux?
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#3309 [22:59] <helpme> I put in the wrong email when I created my account and now can't get my password
#3310 [23:00] <tyteen4a03> helpme: There is no way that you would be able to retrieve it then
#3311 [23:00] <tyteen4a03> you will need to create a new account
#3312 [23:00] <helpme> so i will lose everything I created? will I have to pay again?
#3313 [23:00] <tyteen4a03> helpme: Yes, you will need to pay again
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#3315 [23:01] <tyteen4a03> helpme: If you still have your payment receipt, you can try your luck by emailing the receipt, your username and any other information to help@mojang.com
#3316 [23:01] <tyteen4a03> no guarantees though
#3317 [23:01] <abouttheroof> hello
#3318 [23:01] <tyteen4a03> hi
#3319 [23:02] <helpme> that is a rip off!! there has to be a way someone can get my password or change the email on my account. i am logged in now, but have to get out and it won't let me change the email
#3320 [23:02] <abouttheroof> i have a problem with minecraft
#3321 [23:02] <ccstudio> lol who types in the wrong email addy?
#3322 [23:02] <tyteen4a03> abouttheroof: Yes?
#3323 [23:02] <Dystopia> Ccstudio, try not to troll. You wouldn't want anyone trolling your problems, now would you?
#3324 [23:03] <abouttheroof> it freezes after about ten minutes of play
#3325 [23:03] <helpme> an 11 year old boy!!
#3326 [23:03] <Dystopia> Ccstudio, stuff happens. It's not a big deal.
#3327 [23:03] <abouttheroof> and then i can't close it
#3328 [23:03] <abouttheroof> every time
#3329 [23:03] <tyteen4a03> helpme: http://www.minecraft.net/profile <- It has the first letter of your email account and the email domain
#3330 [23:03] <Dystopia> Abouttheroof, have you tried adjusting your settings?
#3331 [23:03] <tyteen4a03> see if you can remember your email that way
#3332 [23:03] <helpme> yes, the domain is wrong
#3333 [23:04] <abouttheroof> i've tried everything
#3334 [23:04] <tyteen4a03> abouttheroof: Windows?
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#3336 [23:04] <Dystopia> Abouttheroof, you've tried turning the quality down in the initial game?
#3337 [23:04] <ccstudio> I suppose. helpme: it doesn't really matter.
#3338 [23:04] <abouttheroof> windows, yes
#3339 [23:04] <tyteen4a03> ??> abouttheroof win/dxdiag
#3340 [23:04] <VoxelHead> abouttheroof: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3341 [23:04] <VoxelHead> abouttheroof: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3342 [23:04] <abouttheroof> and yes, i've turned down the quality
#3343 [23:05] <ccstudio> You can still login with your username and your password can still be changed without email verification
#3344 [23:05] <tyteen4a03> [11:59] <helpme> I put in the wrong email when I created my account and now can't get my password
#3345 [23:05] <helpme> I can't remember the password, and they can't send it to me because the email is wrong...
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#3347 [23:05] <tyteen4a03> helpme: As I said, if you still have your payment receipt, you can try your luck by emailing the receipt, your username and any other information to help@mojang.com
#3348 [23:05] <helpme> ok, thanks
#3349 [23:06] <abouttheroof> irc channel?
#3350 [23:07] <quibbit> I need help running this game on my laptop
#3351 [23:07] <quibbit> black screen
#3352 [23:07] <tyteen4a03> abouttheroof: here
#3353 [23:07] <quibbit> everytime I open it
#3354 [23:07] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: When does it happen? After you logged in, or after the Mojang splash screen?
#3355 [23:07] <quibbit> After I have logged in
#3356 [23:08] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: Has this happened before?
#3357 [23:09] <abouttheroof> http://pastebin.com/r5RLynHX
#3358 [23:09] <quibbit> I have not been able to play this game yet. Just purchased today. The in-browser version produces a white screen.
#3359 [23:09] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: On windows?
#3360 [23:09] <tyteen4a03> abouttheroof: hang on
#3361 [23:09] <abouttheroof> ok
#3362 [23:10] <quibbit> Windows xp
#3363 [23:10] <tyteen4a03> ??> quibbit win/dxdiag
#3364 [23:10] <VoxelHead> quibbit: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3365 [23:10] <VoxelHead> quibbit: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3366 [23:10] <tyteen4a03> ??> abouttheroof gpu/intel
#3367 [23:10] <VoxelHead> abouttheroof: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#3368 [23:11] <tyteen4a03> Please update your display card driver by going to the above address
#3369 [23:11] <abouttheroof> how do i find which one to update
#3370 [23:11] <abouttheroof> ?
#3371 [23:11] <tyteen4a03> abouttheroof: The Intel Driver Update Utility should work
#3372 [23:11] <quibbit> http://pastebin.com/JmugtLm8
#3373 [23:12] <abouttheroof> which one?
#3374 [23:12] <tyteen4a03> abouttheroof: It should be on top of the screen after you loaded the address
#3375 [23:12] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: hang on
#3376 [23:12] <tyteen4a03> abouttheroof: AKA http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect?iid=dc_iduu
#3377 [23:13] <abouttheroof> ah
#3378 [23:13] <abouttheroof> right
#3379 [23:13] <abouttheroof> of course
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#3382 [23:13] <abouttheroof> and this should fix my problem?
#3383 [23:14] <tyteen4a03> abouttheroof: This should, but if it doesn't, it's the sign to buy a display card for your PC
#3384 [23:14] <tyteen4a03> older Intel integrated display cards are known to have problems with minecraft
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#3386 [23:14] <tyteen4a03> (and strangely only on windows)
#3387 [23:14] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: hang on, checking
#3388 [23:14] <abouttheroof> so if this doesn't work, then what?
#3389 [23:15] <Omega_Guardian> how Intel gets away with epic crap integrated cards I dunno :P
#3390 [23:15] <tyteen4a03> abouttheroof: You will need to buy a new display card for your PC
#3391 [23:15] <tyteen4a03> Omega_Guardian: mostly opengl issues on older ones
#3392 [23:16] <tyteen4a03> newer ones are better but I'd still get a new display card
#3393 [23:16] <Omega_Guardian> if what I heard is still accurate, they are so useless you basically can't play any games, an d watching a video might be iffy
#3394 [23:16] <abouttheroof> and how much can that run?
#3395 [23:17] <tyteen4a03> abouttheroof: How much do they cost usually?
#3396 [23:17] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: Please update your drivers by going here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#3397 [23:18] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: Wait
#3398 [23:18] <quibbit> "We were unable to find your product or OS"
#3399 [23:19] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: Hang on, giving you new version of that
#3400 [23:19] <quibbit> ok
#3401 [23:19] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: Please go here: http://support.gateway.com/us/en/product/default.aspx?tab=1&modelId=3023
#3402 [23:19] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: Find "ATI Video Drivers and ATI Control Panel" without quotes from the webpage, and download the driver
#3403 [23:21] <quibbit> I actually did that about 45 min ago. Downloaded, installed, and restarted my system.
#3404 [23:21] <abouttheroof> yes
#3405 [23:21] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: And it still doesn't work?
#3406 [23:21] <tyteen4a03> abouttheroof: it can run from $140 to $380, depending on your choice
#3407 [23:22] <abouttheroof> and who can install it?
#3408 [23:22] <tyteen4a03> abouttheroof: Try to find a computer-y friend to buy it and install it for youy
#3409 [23:22] <tyteen4a03> some local computer stores also offer installation service
#3410 [23:23] <abouttheroof> got it
#3411 [23:23] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: If it still doesn't work, it might be a sign to get a new computer after all
#3412 [23:24] <quibbit> correct. 9 times out of 10 I have to it goes unresponsive and I have to close it via task manager
#3413 [23:24] <quibbit> minecraft goes unresponsive. sorry
#3414 [23:25] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: Your computer's probably too old to handle Minecraft
#3415 [23:25] <tyteen4a03> (or any other modern games)
#3416 [23:26] <quibbit> left for dead runs just fine
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#3418 [23:26] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: how about Portal 2?
#3419 [23:27] <abouttheroof> thank you
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#3421 [23:28] <mib_5k09z1> i just brought the game
#3422 [23:28] <tyteen4a03> that was quick
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#3424 [23:28] <quibbit> have not tried that yet on the computer. console though
#3425 [23:29] <mib_uukluc> I just brought the game and it says i dont have a premium account
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#3427 [23:29] <tyteen4a03> mib_uukluc: When did you buy the game? 1 hour ago?
#3428 [23:29] <armed> quibbit: Maybe install Microsoft Security Essentials and run a malware scan.
#3429 [23:29] <mib_uukluc> Yes
#3430 [23:29] <tyteen4a03> armed: no, that wouldn't help
#3431 [23:29] <armed> And uninstall any software you don't need. Sounds like you might have deeper problems
#3432 [23:29] <tyteen4a03> armed: his computer was made somewhere near 2006
#3433 [23:30] <tyteen4a03> and has roughly 1GB-2MB RAM
#3434 [23:30] <armed> tyteen4a03: Unless it was a really cheap machine, even a 2006 computer should work
#3435 [23:30] <mib_uukluc> who you know>
#3436 [23:30] <mib_uukluc> how
#3437 [23:30] <armed> 1GB of RAM should be sufficient to run MC (but not well)
#3438 [23:31] <tyteen4a03> armed: http://pastebin.com/JmugtLm8 <- this is his dxdiag
#3439 [23:31] <quibbit> it was a $1500 gaming laptop. heavy as hell. haha
#3440 [23:31] <tyteen4a03> 1022MB RAM...
#3441 [23:32] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: If you did update your drivers, the dxdiag did not show that
#3442 [23:32] <armed> The driver may still be out of date
#3443 [23:32] <tyteen4a03> You might want to try updating again
#3444 [23:32] <tyteen4a03> armed: Driver Date/Size: 4/14/2005 23:15:00, 226816 bytes
#3445 [23:32] <tyteen4a03> yup
#3446 [23:32] <TheNytangel> A $1500 gaming laptop...
#3447 [23:32] <tyteen4a03> TheNytangel: at 2006, yes
#3448 [23:32] <tyteen4a03> at 2010, nope
#3449 [23:32] <tyteen4a03> *1
#3450 [23:32] <armed> You probably need the ATI Catalyst Legacy Drivers
#3451 [23:33] <TheNytangel> I'm not even going to comment
#3452 [23:33] <armed> My 2011 Mac is a great gaming laptop if I hadn't installed a crappy but large hard drive in it
#3453 [23:33] <tyteen4a03> armed: Macs are different from Windows
#3454 [23:33] <armed> tyteen4a03: I can run Windows on mine
#3455 [23:34] <armed> And for heavy gaming I probably would
#3456 [23:34] <tyteen4a03> armed: Also, I checked with AMD, they told the users to get drivers from the laptop's websites
#3457 [23:34] <tyteen4a03> armed: No, it's the hardware
#3458 [23:34] <armed> tyteen4a03: Ugh
#3459 [23:34] <armed> The drivers on the laptop manufacturers' websites are ridiculously out of date.
#3460 [23:35] <tyteen4a03> armed: I wouldn't take 2010 outdated for a 2006 and probably discountioned laptop
#3461 [23:35] <armed> 2005? Forget about it
#3462 [23:35] <quibbit> http://pastebin.com/twiHVTHR
#3463 [23:35] <armed> tyteen4a03: Hm?
#3464 [23:35] <tyteen4a03> armed: The latest driver date is 2010 from the website, hence that he might not have updated his drivers successfully
#3465 [23:35] <armed> Ahh yeah
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#3467 [23:36] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: Can you try updating again?
#3468 [23:36] <armed> He should uninstall the old driver in add/remove programs
#3469 [23:36] <armed> Then uninstall the device in device manager
#3470 [23:36] <armed> Then reboot
#3471 [23:36] <armed> Then install the new driver:
#3472 [23:36] <armed> .
#3473 [23:36] <TheNytangel> tyteen4a03: every 5 minutes my dad's router automatically turns off wireless...
#3474 [23:37] <tyteen4a03> TheNytangel: wire it
#3475 [23:37] <TheNytangel> tyteen4a03: I did but now I can't lay on my bed and watch youtube videos :(
#3476 [23:37] <TheNytangel> This is a very short ethernet cable
#3477 [23:38] <tyteen4a03> TheNytangel: I can maile you some
#3478 [23:38] <tyteen4a03> *mail
#3479 [23:38] <quibbit> I initially sent you the wrong dxdiag. http://pastebin.com/twiHVTHR This is the one after I updated
#3480 [23:39] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: still shows that you have not updated the display card driver
#3481 [23:39] <tyteen4a03> meh, need to run
#3482 [23:40] <tyteen4a03> armed or TheNytangel: Can you handle any further questions by quibbit?
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#3484 [23:41] <TheNytangel> I'm getting tired
#3485 [23:41] <TheNytangel> It's been a long week and I still have stuff to do tomorrow...
#3486 [23:41] <tyteen4a03> whatever, I need to run
#3487 [23:41] <tyteen4a03> so.... bye :P
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#3489 [23:44] <quibbit> armed: could you please provide more detail to your plan?
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#3491 [23:47] <Elitechurro> Hello
#3492 [23:47] <Elitechurro> Is anyone here incharge of #mincraft
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#3494 [23:49] <ghengis> my eyes of ender always seem to point me back to 0,0 wtf lol
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#3496 [23:49] <ghengis> soon as i cross 0,1 they go the other way, and always straight up, never down
#3497 [23:49] <ghengis> soon as i cross 0,1 they go the other way, and always straight up, never down
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