#MinecraftHelp > 2011-12-21
#1 [00:04] <zkxs> either you are mesmerized by my amazing java wizardry or you are encountering some unexpected difficulties...
#2 [00:04] <SoBeLiz> lol...
#3 [00:04] <SoBeLiz> had to put the baby back to bed
#4 [00:04] <zkxs> ah, difficulties then ;)
#5 [00:05] <SoBeLiz> and some serious lag. blah
#6 [00:06] <SoBeLiz> it did error in the command prompt
#7 [00:06] <zkxs> ooh, copy paste to pastebin
#8 [00:06] <langkid1> Does anyone know of any mods that disable the sounds that play when you go near a block of total darkness
#9 [00:06] <langkid1> I really, really, really HATE them when I play this late at night
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#11 [00:06] <zkxs> ^LOL
#12 [00:06] <aa> hello
#13 [00:06] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ....
#14 [00:07] <zkxs> you could find the sounds and replace them with less creepy ogg files
#15 [00:07] <|Kiichan|Schala|> langkid1: does music off turn them off?
#16 [00:07] <langkid1> I don't know, you tell me
#17 [00:07] <langkid1> also I like the music
#18 [00:07] <langkid1> not the ambience sounds
#19 [00:07] <aa> does anyone wanna pay co-op multilayer survival with meh ?
#20 [00:08] <SoBeLiz> d:\Downloads>java -Xmx512M -Xms512M -cp minecraft(1).jar net.minecraft.LauncherFramejava.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Users\SoBe\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\lastlogi (The system cannot find the file specified) at java.io.FileInputStream.open(Native
#21 [00:08] <zkxs> aa: goto #smp and ask there
#22 [00:08] <langkid1> SoBeLiz, USE HTTP://PASTEBIN.COM FOR PETE'S SAKE
#23 [00:08] * WugBot kicked aa from #minecrafthelp (Reason: a :Kicked by |Kiichan|Schala|) (ask in #smp)
#24 [00:08] <SoBeLiz> o.o wtf is pastebin..
#25 [00:08] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :pastebin
#26 [00:08] <WugBot> pastebin: Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#27 [00:08] <zkxs> ?? pastebin
#28 [00:08] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#29 [00:08] <langkid1> click on the link and fine out
#30 [00:08] <zkxs> ninja'd
#31 [00:08] <langkid1> omg, conflicting bots, ONE MUST DIE!!
#32 [00:09] <SoBeLiz> well, no need to be nasty shesh. its been damn near 5 or 6 years since i used mirc last :P
#33 [00:09] <langkid1> nasty? no one cussed
#34 [00:09] <SoBeLiz> Don't need to be cursing to be come across nasty
#35 [00:10] <langkid1> no one said anything suggesting sexual acts =\
#36 [00:10] <|Kiichan|Schala|> SoBeLiz: we have to tell everyone this... and langkid1 is a bit of a meanie :P
#37 [00:10] <zkxs> your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!
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#39 [00:10] <langkid1> :O
#40 [00:10] <aa> hey
#41 [00:10] <SoBeLiz> http://pastebin.com/DYefg6i8
#42 [00:10] <aa> i cant talk in minecraft
#43 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> Register your name to chat
#44 [00:11] <langkid1> aa, what channel?
#45 [00:11] <aa> the #minecraft channel
#46 [00:11] <langkid1> oh
#47 [00:11] <|Kiichan|Schala|> aa: thats because your nick isnt registered, read their topic
#48 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv REGISTER password email
#49 [00:11] <langkid1> I'm banned in there
#50 [00:11] * langkid1 glares at a CERTAIN person
#50 [00:11] <aa> ok i will
#51 [00:11] <|Kiichan|Schala|> aa: and this isnt #help its #minecrafthelp.
#52 [00:11] <|Kiichan|Schala|> neither is it #smp.
#53 [00:11] <aa> hm
#54 [00:11] <langkid1> #smp is full of griefers, be careful
#55 [00:12] <aa> no one in smp
#56 [00:12] <langkid1> lies
#57 [00:12] <langkid1> LIES
#58 [00:12] <SoBeLiz> o.O
#59 [00:12] <aa> i asked if anyone wanted to play co-op with meh and it s a fkin ghost town in there
#60 [00:12] <langkid1> 108 people in there
#61 [00:12] <|Kiichan|Schala|> 108 server owners :P
#62 [00:12] <|Kiichan|Schala|> or griefers
#63 [00:12] <aa> hey
#64 [00:13] <aa> how do i register to talk in minecraft
#65 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv REGISTER password email
#66 [00:13] <aa> i wanna ask if someone wants to play co-op with me
#67 [00:13] <SoBeLiz> seriously..
#68 [00:13] <|Kiichan|Schala|> aa: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
#69 [00:13] <|Kiichan|Schala|> we cant make it in 3 story high neon letters.
#70 [00:13] <aa> i dont udner stand /msg nickserv REGISTER password email
#71 [00:13] <zkxs> SoBeLiz: do you have funny file names?
#72 [00:14] <SoBeLiz> alt+f4 ;P
#73 [00:14] <zkxs> like minecraft(1)
#74 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> aa - If you want to use the password "asdf", and have the email address of test@asdf.com, you would type in:
#75 [00:14] <|Kiichan|Schala|> aa: type this. /msg nickserv help register
#76 [00:14] <SoBeLiz> Yeah, thats waht it downloaded as.. not the first attempt to run the jar
#77 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv REGISTER asdf test@asdf.com
#78 [00:14] <SoBeLiz> lazy
#79 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> And that will send an activation email to test@asdf.com
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#81 [00:15] <zkxs> SoBeLiz: well, do you want to try remote support? i generally solve new problems by experimentation, which is hard to do over IRC
#82 [00:15] <langkid1> this isn't #help
#83 [00:16] <aa> what the hel
#84 [00:16] <aa> i dont know how to use /msg nickserv REGISTER password email
#85 [00:16] <SoBeLiz> Sure. What the hell, worst that happens is you attempt to format my machine and i shut down right? :P
#86 [00:16] <zkxs> yep, power button beats rock, paper, AND scissors!
#87 [00:16] <|Kiichan|Schala|> aa: ask in #help "how do i register a nickanme"
#88 [00:16] <SoBeLiz> yap
#89 [00:16] <|Kiichan|Schala|> and also....
#90 [00:16] <GLDud> ...
#91 [00:16] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ?? dont/pebcak
#92 [00:16] <VoxelHead> dont/pebcak: If you can't understand our (generally) basic instructions, please don't even bother wasting our time if you won't listen. Fixing problems requires some amount of self-help ability, to say nothing of literacy and the ability to follow directions..
#93 [00:16] <aa> ok
#94 [00:16] <VoxelHead> dont/pebcak: Keep in mind we are all volunteers - if you need more help, hire a professional.
#95 [00:16] <SoBeLiz> rofl
#96 [00:16] <zkxs> SoBeLiz: here is the client, PM me the user and pass. http://downloadus1.teamviewer.com/download/version_6x/TeamViewerQS.exe
#97 [00:17] <SoBeLiz> i like that one.
#98 [00:17] <SoBeLiz> i like that one.
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#100 [00:17] * |Kiichan|Schala| has lost all patience today
#100 [00:17] <GLDud> Hey, I'm having trouble starting the game.
#101 [00:17] <|Kiichan|Schala|> GLDud: any errors? and please excuse if im in ragemode.
#102 [00:19] <GLDud> Is there a way to modify the graphics expectations from outside the game? It says it can't find an accelerated Open GL mode.
#103 [00:19] <|Kiichan|Schala|> GLDud: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, Jesux, or Atari 2600?
#104 [00:19] <GLDud> XP
#105 [00:19] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :dx > GLDud
#106 [00:19] <WugBot> GLDud: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#107 [00:19] <WugBot> GLDud: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#108 [00:21] <GLDud> I think I got it: http://pastebin.com/Tfxa0We9
#109 [00:22] <|Kiichan|Schala|> o.o; ok i dont remember seeing an intel g41 before.
#110 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Try http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#111 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Use -Xms800M -Xmx800M
#112 [00:25] <|Kiichan|Schala|> GreyVulpine: take it this is a known issue? or that for liz?
#113 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> If it's an 'unable to find an accelerated OpenGL mode, and you see that it's an intel chipset, as well as having tons of memory, try a .bat with 800M max heap
#114 [00:28] <GLDud> ...
#115 [00:29] <|Kiichan|Schala|> GLDud: you doing what GreyVulpine said?
#116 [00:29] <GLDud> You mean ".bat with 800M max heap"
#117 [00:29] <|Kiichan|Schala|> start with the pastebin link
#118 [00:31] <|Kiichan|Schala|> but yes. running the game via a batch file that tells it tot use 800m of memory
#119 [00:32] <GLDud> Okay, I did it and it started up the launcher.
#120 [00:33] <GLDud> Should log in with the expectation of success?
#121 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> Hopefully.
#122 [00:33] <GLDud> *angel choir sings*
#123 [00:34] <GLDud> (That means that it worked, so far.)
#124 [00:34] <zkxs> :mclol
#125 [00:34] <WugBot> mclol: http://wug.me/minecraft/mclol.png
#126 [00:36] <GLDud> So, do I have to initialize the game from this .bat file every time I want to play?
#127 [00:36] * GreyVulpine nods
#127 [00:37] <zkxs> wouldn't a shortcut work as well and not spawn the console window?
#128 [00:38] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#128 [00:38] <zkxs> i know that kind of thing worked in xp
#129 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> pastebin's originally meant as a quick and easy diagnostic.
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#131 [00:41] <GLDud> So, how do I transfer my world from the PCGamer demo I had over to the real game?
#132 [00:42] <Wug> GLDud: well
#133 [00:42] * mib_c0lwxl [mib_c0lwxl@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#134 [00:42] <GLDud> (PS. The PCGamer demo ran without incident.)
#135 [00:42] <Wug> I'm noy sure where exactly it saves the worlds
#136 [00:42] <GLDud> I am.
#137 [00:43] <mib_c0lwxl> Having troubles purchasing game
#138 [00:43] <Wug> in that case, just copy the world into %appdata%\.minecraft
#139 [00:43] <GLDud> I've saved multiple worlds this way and even extended the gametime it allows me.
#140 [00:43] <SoBeLiz> ^^ back zkxs
#141 [00:43] <zkxs> SoBeLiz: how did it go?
#142 [00:44] <SoBeLiz> not attempted it yet figured i'd get back on here, i'm betting on it not
#143 [00:44] <zkxs> *drumroll begins*
#144 [00:44] <Timmany> money thru yet?
#145 [00:45] <GLDud> Well, it's running so far.
#146 [00:45] <GLDud> Thanks for all the help.
#147 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> \o/
#148 [00:46] <GLDud> I am a Dud no further
#149 [00:46] <Timmany> any help here?
#150 [00:46] <SoBeLiz> yeah...no
#151 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> Timmany - We have no idea what you're talking about
#152 [00:47] <Timmany> sory I paid yesterday n the account still not premium
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#154 [00:47] <zkxs> SoBeLiz: lol
#155 [00:47] <Timmany> i got confirmation email frm moneybookers say it is seccessful
#156 [00:50] <Timmany> ...?@@
#157 [00:50] <GLDud> Again, thanks.
#158 [00:50] <GLDud> Goodbye all, I have some trees to punch.
#159 [00:52] <Timmany> anyone here to help?
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#161 [00:52] <mib_c0lwxl> i can;t provide any help but i am having troubles purchasing as well
#162 [00:53] <mib_c0lwxl> there seems to be some very helpful people in here...
#163 [00:53] <Timmany> i nee help frm the officials
#164 [00:53] <DopeGhoti> we try.
#165 [00:53] <Timmany> cause i alrdy paid
#166 [00:54] <mib_c0lwxl> well can someone at least point me in the right direction where i can actually get help with purchasing issues?
#167 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> mib_c0lwxl - Could you elaborate on what kind of purchasing issue you're having?>
#168 [00:54] <DopeGhoti> why did no one yet do this?
#169 [00:54] <DopeGhoti> !topic -7
#170 [00:56] <Timmany> ............
#171 [00:57] <Timmany> anyone here can help?
#172 [01:00] <langkid1> I just found 6 diamonds!!!!!!!
#173 [01:00] * langkid1 is so happy
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#176 [01:13] <HELPLEASE> hi im wondering how to update minecraft?
#177 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> What version are you on?
#178 [01:14] <HELPLEASE> 1.0.0
#179 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> Then that's the latest version
#180 [01:14] <{unimatrix}> get a delorean
#181 [01:14] <{unimatrix}> go to the future
#182 [01:14] <HELPLEASE> but i thought 1.9 and all that came out?
#183 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#184 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> 1.8.1 and 1.9-prereleases are beta versions
#185 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> You're on the 1.0.0 final release, which is the current latest version
#186 [01:15] <HELPLEASE> ok sorry
#187 [01:15] <HELPLEASE> but im also wondering how to get mods and texture packs?
#188 [01:17] <{unimatrix}> texture packs is easy
#189 [01:17] <HELPLEASE> please tell me how?
#190 [01:17] <{unimatrix}> C:\Documents and Settings\uni\Application Data\.minecraft\texturepacks
#191 [01:17] <HELPLEASE> ok
#192 [01:17] <{unimatrix}> ofc depending on your windows
#193 [01:17] <{unimatrix}> and your username
#194 [01:17] <{unimatrix}> past the texture zip
#195 [01:17] <{unimatrix}> in that folder
#196 [01:17] <{unimatrix}> :p
#197 [01:18] <HELPLEASE> sorry i dint understand a word you said :(
#198 [01:18] <{unimatrix}> open minecraft
#199 [01:18] <WugBot> {unimatrix}: (fu) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#200 [01:18] <WugBot> {unimatrix}: (fu) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#201 [01:18] <HELPLEASE> didn't*
#202 [01:18] <{unimatrix}> click texture packs
#203 [01:18] <{unimatrix}> open texture pack folder
#204 [01:18] <{unimatrix}> paste the zip files of the texture pack into that folder
#205 [01:19] <HELPLEASE> no sorry how do i actually get them not install them
#206 [01:19] <{unimatrix}> google?
#207 [01:19] <HELPLEASE> ok..
#208 [01:19] <{unimatrix}> minecraft forum
#209 [01:20] <HELPLEASE> what sites do you recomend?
#210 [01:20] <HELPLEASE> ok
#211 [01:20] <{unimatrix}> i knew that Q was coming
#212 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/41-texture-packs/
#213 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> http://painterlypack.net/
#214 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Texture_Packs
#215 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> www.minecraftwb.com
#216 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> Enough for you, or should I google more?
#217 [01:21] <HELPLEASE> no im ok
#218 [01:21] <{unimatrix}> GreyVulpine you are to kind for this world
#219 [01:22] <{unimatrix}> i would have pasted a link how to google
#220 [01:22] <{unimatrix}> trollface.jpg
#221 [01:31] <Timmany> any help here?
#222 [01:33] <Timmany> any help here?
#223 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> We don't know why you're not premium yet. Talk to your bank or credit card, make sure payment was actually made
#224 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> Some banks stop payment, because Mojang's in Sweden, and minecraft is an international payment
#225 [01:34] <Timmany> yea alrdy email them they siad yes
#226 [01:34] <SoBeLiz> o.o
#227 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> Then, for account issues, send an email to help@mojang.com
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#230 [01:37] <SoBeLiz> GreyVulpine: don't suppose you'd know why the browser java works but the launcher wont? :(
#231 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> Got a few theories, but tell me more. What happens when you try to use the launcher?
#232 [01:38] <SoBeLiz> locks the machine up, turns black, crashes, if it even gets that far
#233 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> Your machine in any way outdated? More than say, 3-4 years old?
#234 [01:39] <SoBeLiz> zkxs was on teamviewer with me and even he's wtf
#235 [01:39] <SoBeLiz> naw, just 2
#236 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> Have you given up a dxdiag?
#237 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> (I assume this is on windows)
#238 [01:39] <SoBeLiz> ya, and yes, zkxs looked over it XD
#239 [01:39] <SoBeLiz> can again if ya like
#240 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> Just paste the link to it again, please.
#241 [01:40] <XNick> I am having some problems purchasing this game. I am trying to use a visa prepaid card to purchase it and everytime i try to complete the transaction it says i cant use my card for 24 hours. i even tried an actual credit card and that didnt work either.
#242 [01:40] <XNick> Any inputs on this?
#243 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> Prepaids generally don't work for minecraft. International transaction and fraud protection.
#244 [01:41] <SoBeLiz> http://pastebin.com/7y69uwqU
#245 [01:41] <XNick> Well why isnt an actual credit card working then?
#246 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> You have to generally talk to the customer service number of the prepaid card, register it under your name so that you can do internation transactions
#247 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> XNick - What payment provider are you using, and what error message do you get with the credit card?
#248 [01:41] <XNick> I have registered everything already on it
#249 [01:42] <tyteen4a03> the spec looks OK...
#250 [01:42] <XNick> its visa
#251 [01:42] <XNick> and it says that i canot use my card for 24 hours
#252 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> XNick - Around here, we generally see a better reliability of people using Paypal to pay for minecraft, rather than the credit card service, or moneybookers
#253 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> I've had people tell me that they were unable to pay under moneybookers, either because the bank declined it, or moneybookers was crap, but reporting success with paypal
#254 [01:43] <XNick> Well i dont have paypal...
#255 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> Don't need to have a paypal account to pay for it
#256 [01:43] <XNick> o really?
#257 [01:43] <XNick> i didnt know that
#258 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> You can use paypal just as a payment processor, they accept bank accounts, credit cards, and other forms of payment
#259 [01:44] <XNick> ahh i see let me try that then
#260 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> If you do a lot of online payments, making a paypal account is available
#261 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> SoBeLiz - Wow, that system should handle Minecraft easily, one moment..
#262 [01:44] <XNick> ok thanks for the help i will let you know if it works
#263 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> XNick - Sure thing
#264 [01:45] <SoBeLiz> It was, quite well, then just stopped. Nothing updated. Just.. didn't load.
#265 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> SoBeLiz - When did it stop working, roughly?
#266 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> Was it back in beta?
#267 [01:45] <SoBeLiz> Around 1.7
#268 [01:46] <Timmany> omg stupid moneybookers.... they haven't get the money frm my creditcard company
#269 [01:46] <SoBeLiz> Gave up for while due to finals and what not
#270 [01:46] <Timmany> damn
#271 [01:46] <SoBeLiz> I can go log in to the minecraft website, and it loads there
#272 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> SoBeLiz - That sounds to me, like more and more a graphics (driver) problem. 1.8, as well as 1.0.0 both updated and increased the graphical requirements slightly.
#273 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> The only difference between the downloadable client, and the browser client is that the browser one launches with slightly less aggressive graphical requirements
#274 [01:47] <SoBeLiz> So, possible to make the launcher load with lower reqs?
#275 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> Betting a video driver update could solve this problem.
#276 [01:48] <SoBeLiz> yeah.. tried that.. last two hours with the last guy
#277 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes, it is possible, I would need to dig up the exact arguments that the browser uses, and you can use a batch file to emulate it
#278 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> You attempted to update your video drivers from... dell's site? ATI's site?
#279 [01:48] <SoBeLiz> my graphics card is an ati, and an badly supported one. I have a history of issues with it
#280 [01:48] <SoBeLiz> ATI and dell.
#281 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> Oof, alright
#282 [01:48] <SoBeLiz> on serveral occasions.
#283 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> Did the update work, or did it fail with errors?
#284 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> Or did you have to roll back to prior drivers?
#285 [01:49] <SoBeLiz> Thats the best part, says it installed, but you can't find any files of it installing XD
#286 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, from your dxdiag, it still shows drivers from 2009 installed
#287 [01:49] <SoBeLiz> yeah, i can do a new one.
#288 [01:49] <SoBeLiz> we worked on it after that
#289 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> That card's still relatively new, so it should show a later date if it was updated correctly
#290 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> Alright. while you get on dxdiag again, I'll look for that browser thing
#291 [01:50] <SoBeLiz> okay ty
#292 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> ??< index
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#294 [01:51] <SoBeLiz> http://pastebin.com/WHBh1kxg
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#296 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, those are showing drivers from 5/24/2011
#297 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> So they are updated.
#298 [01:55] <Scott> 4GB RAM and a 32bit OS? :s
#299 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it happens.
#300 [01:56] <SoBeLiz> its a two year old dell.. can't expect much XD
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#302 [01:56] <SoBeLiz> i didn't pay for it XD
#303 [01:56] <Scott> Can it even utilize all of that RAM? lol
#304 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> Alright, the browser version launches minecraft with:
#305 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true -Dsun.java2d.d3d=false -Dsun.java2d.opengl=false -Dsun.java2d.pmoffscreen=false
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#307 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> Now, the fun part. Ever written up a batch file before?
#308 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> Now, the fun part. Ever written up a batch file before?
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#310 [01:56] <SoBeLiz> a long long time ago.
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#312 [01:57] <Scott> wait, does windows 7 have PAE?
#313 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> Simple instructions are here: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#314 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> Instead of: java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#315 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> You want to use: java -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true -Dsun.java2d.d3d=false -Dsun.java2d.opengl=false -Dsun.java2d.pmoffscreen=false -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#316 [01:57] <Timmany> any officals to help here?
#317 [01:58] <CaelThunderwing> Timmany i said lastnight No one offically from Notch or relate dto Notch is here
#318 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Timmany - Nobody here is from Mojang. Nobody here works for Mojang, nor do we get paid by them. We're community-run support, recognized by Mojang. We have no way of accessing accounts, or helping with account problems
#319 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> If you want to get help from Mojang, you'll need to email them at help@mojang.com
#320 [01:59] <Timmany> oh i thought here is frm mojang
#321 [01:59] <Timmany> lolz
#322 [01:59] <Timmany> sorry
#323 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> Everybody here volunteers their time to help others with Minecraft.
#324 [01:59] <XNick> well paypal unfortunately told me that it couldnt complete my transaction
#325 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> XNick - Did you try the prepaid, or the credit card?
#326 [01:59] <XNick> prepaif
#327 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> Prepaids generally have a heck of a time with online payments
#328 [02:00] <Zipmeister> Hey, I haven't played much minecraft since 1.7 and I noticed I have some huge lag issues now. Whenever I start the game it becomes unplayable after about 1 min or so. I have Java version 1.7.0_01
#329 [02:00] <XNick> I realize this now
#330 [02:00] <Timmany> i m in a rush cause moneybookers said they have pay mojang alrdy but my account still not premium
#331 [02:00] <XNick> and regret buying it
#332 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> Zipmeister - Java 7's been known to have problems, we recommend java 6
#333 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> It's also been known to cause exactly your lag problem
#334 [02:00] <Zipmeister> ah k, thanks
#335 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> XNick - Try the credit card
#336 [02:01] <XNick> Ok will do
#337 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> Timmany - Again, we cannot do anything about this. If your bank says you've paid, as well as moneybookers, and you have a receipt, forward it to help@mojang.com with a short description of your problem
#338 [02:01] <Timmany> k
#339 [02:01] <Timmany> thx alot
#340 [02:02] <CaelThunderwing> Timmany are you linking your bank/credit card to paypal/moneybookers?
#341 [02:02] <Timmany> yea
#342 [02:02] <CaelThunderwing> i Suggested to load $$ into Paypal Itself then pay from paypal Balance
#343 [02:02] <SoBeLiz> this is what i get..
#344 [02:02] <SoBeLiz> http://pastebin.com/3GJTLSUg
#345 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> SoBeLiz - Did you also download minecraft.jar to the "~Derpcraft" folder?
#346 [02:03] <Timmany> but its too late lolz
#347 [02:03] <SoBeLiz> XD ya
#348 [02:03] <Timmany> anyways thx a lot guys
#349 [02:03] <Timmany> sorry for my rudeness...
#350 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> SoBeLiz - Make sure it's named exactly "minecraft.jar"
#351 [02:03] <SoBeLiz> yep
#352 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> ... erm, that should work..
#353 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> Did you download minecraft.jar from the link in the pastebin instructions?
#354 [02:04] <SoBeLiz> XD ya.. I've heard that before
#355 [02:04] <SoBeLiz> Yep ye
#356 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> could you put in "dir" before the java line and pastebin the output of that?
#357 [02:05] <SoBeLiz> sure
#358 [02:07] <SoBeLiz> http://pastebin.com/5jcMiyrs
#359 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> That minecraft.jar is over a meg.. um. One moment
#360 [02:09] <Zipmeister> seems to work perfectly now, thans GreyVulpine
#361 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> SoBeLiz - That doesn't seem like the right minecraft.jar
#362 [02:09] <langkid1> ARGGHH
#363 [02:09] <langkid1> THE FRIDAY SONG
#364 [02:10] * langkid1 slams head on table
#364 [02:10] <SoBeLiz> i'll grab it again
#365 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> Zipmeister - Glad to hear it
#366 [02:13] <SoBeLiz> http://pastebin.com/AA7UBcn2
#367 [02:14] <SoBeLiz> Umm.. ok. Launcher popped for a second, changed into the java logo and min, and now is flooding that command prompt
#368 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> Huh, well...
#369 [02:14] <SoBeLiz> one second
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#371 [02:18] <SoBeLiz> blah
#372 [02:19] <SoBeLiz> http://pastebin.com/MWJ0nNvM
#373 [02:19] <SoBeLiz> it'll actually keep flooding it with similar errors until cmd prompt crashes with it
#374 [02:20] <SoBeLiz> took me twice to kill it so i could get that much
#375 [02:21] <SoBeLiz> that sounds.. painful.
#376 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Are you by any chance, using any special windows themes or graphical improvements?
#377 [02:22] <SoBeLiz> mm... no. not that i'm aware of. i think only thing i've ever done was remove the color so its not blue tinted
#378 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
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#380 [02:25] <GLDud> Hello?
#381 [02:26] <GLDud> I'm wondering if I can get assistance on setting up a multiplayer server?
#382 [02:28] <rymate1234> GLDud: what parts of it are you having trouble with? :)
#383 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> SoBeLiz - Sorry, just looking through some of my logs, seeing if I had this problem before. Give me a few.
#384 [02:29] <SoBeLiz> np take your time
#385 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> SoBeLiz - Happen to have any security software or firewall installed on your computer that may be blocking minecraft/java?
#386 [02:36] <GLDud> Frankly, I don't understand heads or tails of this Minecraft_Server.exe file.
#387 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> GLDud - What's there to understand? Place Minecraft_server.exe in its own folder. Run it.
#388 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> The server is running. It generates the world folder, as well as any supporting config files in that folder.
#389 [02:37] <GLDud> I start it up and it seems to be running.
#390 [02:37] <GLDud> But what do I do next?
#391 [02:38] <GLDud> How does one join it? What information must I pass to them?
#392 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> Well, start up the client. Go to your multiplayer option. In the direct connect, try "127.0.0.1"
#393 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> GLDud - That'll verify that the server is running on your machine, and you can connect to it locally.
#394 [02:38] <GLDud> Well, that worked.
#395 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> Alright then. Are you hosting this on a home connection?
#396 [02:40] <GLDud> Can you elaborate on that?
#397 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> Are you at a house right now?
#398 [02:40] <GLDud> Yea.
#399 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> From what type of inter... okay
#400 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> You're most likely behind a home router then, as well. Have you ever done port forwarding?
#401 [02:40] <GLDud> Don't think so.
#402 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> You're on some sort of Windows machine? What version of Windows is it running?
#403 [02:41] <GLDud> I load up my router's stats and it gives me a WAN IP Address.
#404 [02:41] <GLDud> I'm still on XP.
#405 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> Ah, then you have accessed your router's status page.
#406 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> Do me a favor. Go to your start menu and hit the Run command. Type in: cmd and press enter
#407 [02:42] <GLDud> Yea, I've got a nice list of fancy numbers before me.
#408 [02:42] * rymate1234 loves his router
#408 [02:42] <GLDud> It's up.
#409 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> In the black command prompt window that pops up, type in: ipconfig and press enter
#410 [02:42] <GLDud> The command prompt.
#411 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> Tell me the ip address it gives you there
#412 [02:42] <rymate1234> I can port forward using my PC namw <3
#413 [02:43] <GLDud> 192.168.0.4
#414 [02:43] <GLDud> I also have a subnet mask and default gateway number, if you ask.
#415 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Back to your router's config page. Do you see an option for port forwarding?
#416 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> I also assume you got to your router's status page by going to 192.168.0.1?
#417 [02:44] <GLDud> I'm already there.
#418 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> Got a page for port forwarding?
#419 [02:44] <GLDud> Yea, I found some port forwarding under the security tab.
#420 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> Alright. In there, what you're going to need to fill in is, you're forwarding port 25565-25565 TCP, to 192.168.0.4
#421 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> That's telling your router that, any port 25565/TCP traffic that hits your router, it's going to forward it to your computer inside your LAN
#422 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> The minecraft server, if you noticed before, is listening on Port 25565.
#423 [02:46] <GLDud> I'm not seeing much option for such input.
#424 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> Care to give us a screenshot or something?
#425 [02:47] * langkid1 is going to sleep now
#425 [02:47] <GLDud> Can I do that with mibbit?
#426 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> host it at any image hosting site, I like to use www.imgur.com
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#428 [02:48] <lyk31337> Is finding a floating library underground usual
#429 [02:48] <GLDud> Does this work? http://sta.sh/023f0so4yolq
#430 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Yeah it does, one moment
#431 [02:50] <JohnEBH> Erm... Do I see a MLP tab over there?
#432 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> GLDud - Hit the "user" radio button
#433 [02:50] <Calinou> lyk31337: kind of, it's not intended though
#434 [02:50] <JohnEBH> Just wondering~
#435 [02:50] <GLDud> No. >_>
#436 [02:50] <Calinou> this library is part of a stronghold
#437 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> No?
#438 [02:50] <GLDud> Never mind.
#439 [02:51] <GLDud> What were you saying?
#440 [02:51] <JohnEBH> Must be hallucinating then...
#441 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> Hit the "User" radio button
#442 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> Should see some sort of Add button that pops up
#443 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> Or New
#444 [02:51] <GLDud> Hit the 'new' button.
#445 [02:51] <GLDud> New screenshot?
#446 [02:51] <rymate1234> ye
#447 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> I'm assuming yours looks something like this
#448 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Actiontec/GT704-WG/BitTorrent.htm
#449 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> Colors might not match, but actiontec usually has the same config pages
#450 [02:52] <GLDud> Somewhat/
#451 [02:52] <GLDud> Somewhat.
#452 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> Rule name, doesn't matter, put in MC server
#453 [02:53] <rymate1234> ir even minecraft
#454 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> Protocol, TCP. Port start, port end, both 25565
#455 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> Port map, 25565
#456 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> Hit apply, then back. You should see a new entry in the User field for MC server, or whatever you named it
#457 [02:54] <GLDud> Go back and refresh the link I sent you.
#458 [02:55] <lyk31337> How do I put two pistons right next to eachother on the same circut
#459 [02:55] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that looks right
#460 [02:55] <GLDud> All the same number, hit apply?
#461 [02:55] <GreyVulpine> GLDud - Yeah
#462 [02:55] <GreyVulpine> lyk31337 - Repeater goes into one piston
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#464 [02:56] <GLDud> It didn't like the space between MC and Server, so I put in an underscore. Now, it simply lists the stats I input right below the input boxes.
#465 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> GLDud - Alright, that works.
#466 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> GLDud - Apply it, then go back to the previous page.
#467 [02:57] <GLDud> (Refresh that sta.sh page for another update)
#468 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> That looks fine. Hit back at the bottom
#469 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> Now, in the cmd prompt, could you make sure your computer name is the same as the drop down next to LAN device
#470 [02:59] <GLDud> I had hit the back button on the navigator. After a little detour, I ended up back where I need to be with MC_Server listed as a viable rule.
#471 [02:59] <GreyVulpine> Once you've confirmed that the Computer name of your computer matches the LAN device name, you'll add mc_server over
#472 [03:00] <GLDud> I believe my computer's name is already confirmed. (another update added)
#473 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> That looks fine.
#474 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> Server running?
#475 [03:01] <GLDud> Yea, I haven't closed it yet.
#476 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> Looks like you're all set. I was able to connect
#477 [03:02] <GLDud> That game doesn't pause when you're in it and my character spawned in the middle of an ocean.
#478 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> Likewise
#479 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> Now, just give anybody that you want to connect with, your WAN ip.
#480 [03:03] <Calinou> you may spawn in the middle in an ocean in multiplayer, known bug
#481 [03:03] <GLDud> Were you a stormtrooper?
#482 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#483 [03:03] <GLDud> Haha.
#484 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> I also need to yell at mollstam, server.exe binary's still running 1.0.0
#485 [03:03] <GLDud> How do I place one of my own worlds in the stead of this ocean?
#486 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> Find out where you have minecaft_server.exe
#487 [03:04] <GreyVulpine> Hopefully, you didn't just run it from the downloads directory
#488 [03:04] <GLDud> No, I have it.
#489 [03:04] <Calinou> to get out, the best thing to do is to switch to creative mode then fly away from the ocean
#490 [03:04] <GLDud> I'm savvy enough with system files.
#491 [03:04] <GreyVulpine> Place minecraft_server.exe into its own directory. That's where you'll see a folder labeled 'world"
#492 [03:04] <GLDud> Hey, I even managed to name my world. ^^
#493 [03:04] <GreyVulpine> Do you know where your single player worlds are located?
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#495 [03:05] <SoBeLiz> GreyVulpine: just saw your question, and i do have avg, i'll disable it and give it a go
#496 [03:05] <GLDud> Yea.
#497 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> GLDud - Then just copy the folder of whatever world you want, into the server's folder.
#498 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> Rename either the folder accordingly, or edit the server.properties's level-name= to match the folder's name
#499 [03:06] <SoBeLiz> ....and no change
#500 [03:07] <GLDud> How do I fly in creative mode?
#501 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> SoBeLiz - Are you running AVG, the free version, or the paid?
#502 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> GLDud - op yourself in the console
#503 [03:07] <SoBeLiz> free
#504 [03:07] <Calinou> type "op your_username_here", then type ingame /gamemode your_username_here 1
#505 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> ^
#506 [03:07] <Calinou> then, fly by double-tapping space, then type /gamemode your_username_here 0 to switch back to survival
#507 [03:08] <GLDud> Yay, I'm airborn!
#508 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> SoBeLiz - Hmm, we've had AVG give us problems before, but not like this.. hmm.
#509 [03:09] <SoBeLiz> I went in and told it to disable completely for 10 minutes.. so
#510 [03:09] <GreyVulpine> SoBeLiz - And you don't run any other firewall software, or anything with an internet security aspect?
#511 [03:09] <SoBeLiz> mm.. w/e the default windows thing is.. not sure if thats still on.
#512 [03:09] <SoBeLiz> lemme look
#513 [03:09] <GreyVulpine> That shouldn't really affect anything
#514 [03:10] <SoBeLiz> ah win firewall is on
#515 [03:10] <SoBeLiz> thats it though
#516 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> Alright, just a hunch. Somebody else, 6 months back, had a similar looking error report. Said something about disabling his internet connection made it work, then just left.
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#518 [03:14] <SoBeLiz> so, d/c from the net let it load?
#519 [03:14] <SoBeLiz> hmm well, i guess i'll try it at this point. easy enough to log back in
#520 [03:15] <SoBeLiz> brb then.
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#522 [03:17] <SoBeLiz> o.o
#523 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Hrm?
#524 [03:17] <SoBeLiz> d/c from the wireless, ran it and loaded..
#525 [03:17] <SoBeLiz> connected back on..
#526 [03:17] <SoBeLiz> still working
#527 [03:17] * GreyVulpine bliniks
#527 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> You're joking..
#528 [03:18] <SoBeLiz> No
#529 [03:18] <SoBeLiz> No i'm not
#530 [03:18] <SoBeLiz> the log though
#531 [03:18] <SoBeLiz> o.o...
#532 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> Ignore Vox.
#533 [03:20] <SoBeLiz> hold on lemme grab this log.. its different now
#534 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> If minecraft works....
#535 [03:21] <SoBeLiz> http://pastebin.com/VXm0PU6L
#536 [03:22] <SoBeLiz> it crashed while i was grabbing that
#537 [03:22] <SoBeLiz> it won't reload now that i'm back online
#538 [03:22] <GLDud> So, all I need is my WAN IP address?
#539 [03:23] <GLDud> And others can connect to my server?
#540 [03:23] <GreyVulpine> GLDud - Yes
#541 [03:23] <GLDud> Cool.
#542 [03:23] <GLDud> Thanks, again, for your help. This chatroom has been most helpful.
#543 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> SoBeLiz - Very very strange... Are you sure you have no other security software other than AVG?
#544 [03:24] <SoBeLiz> Ya
#545 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, another hunch. Could you go into AVG, and disable its Linkscanner module. Then try minecraft?
#546 [03:24] <SoBeLiz> there is a way to show the running processes to ya?
#547 [03:25] <SoBeLiz> linkscanner? k one second
#548 [03:25] <GLDud> Are you sure? It doesn't seem to be able to connect when I try that address.
#549 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> GLDud - I connected with your IP address of:75.100.30.113
#550 [03:26] <SoBeLiz> nopers.
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#552 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> There are some routers that do not like NAT loopback, yours may be one of them if you cannot connect with your public IP address
#553 [03:26] <GLDud> Is there some reason I'd not be allowed to connect with that address because it's my server?
#554 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> Yes, some (cheaper) routers do not like computers from inside the LAN, connecting with its WAN ip
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#556 [03:27] <GLDud> So, it's like trying to enter through my front door when I'm already inside?
#557 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> Right
#558 [03:27] <GLDud> The front door is for guests only.
#559 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> You can connect to your server with either 127.0.0.1 (if you're on the same computer as the server), or your local ip address of 192.168.0.4 if you in the same house
#560 [03:28] <GLDud> Well.
#561 [03:28] <GLDud> Again, thanks for all the assistance.
#562 [03:28] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#562 [03:28] <GLDud> I shall now get back to My Little Pony ... not that I was watching it, or anything. >_>
#563 [03:28] <GLDud> Mind you.
#564 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> When the minecraft server updates, just redownload minecraft_server.exe from the website and replace it in your folder.
#565 [03:28] <SoBeLiz> XD
#566 [03:29] <GLDud> I regret nothing!
#567 [03:29] * GreyVulpine hehs
#567 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> Any luck with linkscanner?
#568 [03:30] <SoBeLiz> Yeah, same as before
#569 [03:30] <SoBeLiz> just crashes
#570 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> what version of Java are you running? 6?
#571 [03:30] <SoBeLiz> 6 update 30 now
#572 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> You don't have 7 installed on that computer, right?
#573 [03:30] <SoBeLiz> not anymore
#574 [03:30] <SoBeLiz> first thing i was told to do
#575 [03:30] <SoBeLiz> XD
#576 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Heh, fair enough.
#577 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Heh, fair enough.
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#579 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Just that your error messages contain:
#580 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> java.net.UnknownHostException: mcupdate.tumblr.com
#581 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> java.net.UnknownHostException: login.minecraft.net
#582 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> java.net.UnknownHostException: s3.amazonaws.com
#583 [03:31] <SoBeLiz> =\
#584 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Which are the addresses to the news feed, the login server, and the amazon cloud where minecraft stores its files.
#585 [03:32] <SoBeLiz> Okay, so its crashing when it gets to tha tpoint cause it can't access it
#586 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> right
#587 [03:32] <SoBeLiz> So.. the root is.. to find whats making that stop
#588 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> Which is why I'm pushing for some sort of network security software..
#589 [03:32] <SoBeLiz> .. fuck me, lemme look in my host file. i ran spybot s&d and it edits to hosts
#590 [03:32] * AuBot kicked SoBeLiz from #minecrafthelp (Reason: oBeLiz :Please keep it civil.)
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#592 [03:33] * SoBeLiz sighs.
#592 [03:33] <SoBeLiz> Apologies
#593 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> No worries
#594 [03:35] <SoBeLiz> eh, hosts file is clean
#595 [03:36] <SoBeLiz> i haven't had tea timer on here since it was a vista machien so.. thats not it
#596 [03:38] <SoBeLiz> windefender is off.
#597 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> SoBeLiz - Running any sort of proxy?
#598 [03:39] <SoBeLiz> nope
#599 [03:41] <SoBeLiz> ok, disabled winfirewall AND avg.
#600 [03:42] <SoBeLiz> progress. it actually started to load the launcher and i saw the login box before it crashed.
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#602 [03:45] <GreyVulpine> I still want to say it's a networking issue of some sort. Security software, Firewall/filtering software, network configuration, you're absolutely sure you're not running a connect through any sort of proxy at all?
#603 [03:45] <SoBeLiz> Yes.
#604 [03:45] <SoBeLiz> 100%.
#605 [03:45] <GreyVulpine> You're connected straight to the internet, barring any modem/router.
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#607 [03:46] <SoBeLiz> Eh, there is a series of routers in this house, but every other machine in the house BUT this one can connect
#608 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> In terms of the networking, is this computer hooked up differently somehow?
#609 [03:47] <SoBeLiz> no, and this is not my set up.. sigh.
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#611 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> Are you sharing the computer internet with some other computer?
#612 [03:47] <SoBeLiz> modem, voice ip router, wireless router
#613 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> Internet connection sharing (ICS) or something?
#614 [03:47] <SoBeLiz> some of the comps go to the wireless to a switch, and then though another switch
#615 [03:47] <SoBeLiz> Nope
#616 [03:48] <SoBeLiz> the lappy actually has the shortest route to the interent compares to the others
#617 [03:48] <SoBeLiz> XD
#618 [03:48] <mib_94q3md> We have purchased the game, money has come out of the account, email has been verrified but we cannot play the game - can you advise?
#619 [03:48] <GreyVulpine> Gah. okay.
#620 [03:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_94q3md - Error(s) when you try to log in?
#621 [03:49] <mib_94q3md> Just keeps saying need to verify account. We have input the verification number but nothing. It looks as if we need to purchase the game again!
#622 [03:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_94q3md - Hmm, verification number? That's a new one. They probably just recently implemented that. Try emailing mojang at help@mojang.com
#623 [03:51] <GreyVulpine> SoBeLiz - I think I'm running out of ideas here.
#624 [03:51] <SoBeLiz> well you have gotten further than anyone so far!
#625 [03:52] <mib_94q3md> Ok thanks.
#626 [03:53] <SoBeLiz> i'm at a loss, i don't know what else could be running on here that would block it
#627 [03:53] <GreyVulpine> Have you done a complete uninstall/reinstall of java 6 when you did that last?
#628 [03:54] <SoBeLiz> yeah
#629 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> Alright.
#630 [03:54] <SoBeLiz> perhaps i should let java though the win firewall?
#631 [03:54] <SoBeLiz> blah
#632 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> Don't think windows firewall actually does anything
#633 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> Or at least, it hasn't affected minecraft if at all in my experience here.
#634 [03:56] <SoBeLiz> why would it let the browser version run those same connections w/e is doing it?
#635 [03:57] <GreyVulpine> Some security software's strange. Will let java applets in the browser run just fine, but blocks standalone programs.
#636 [03:58] <SoBeLiz> k, al that is running in the corner is avg and mirc. time to check processes and serices
#637 [03:58] <SoBeLiz> k, al that is running in the corner is avg and mirc. time to check processes and serices
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#639 [04:00] <SoBeLiz> sigh. don't see anything and i just double checked the net adapters and all are set to obtain auto
#640 [04:05] <GreyVulpine> Could you head to your cmd prompt. Do an nslookup mcupdate.tumblr.com
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#642 [04:06] <GreyVulpine> Tell me if the last line's address is something like: 50.22.53.157
#643 [04:07] <SoBeLiz> .155
#644 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> Eh, close enough
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#646 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> SoBeLiz - I don't know man...
#647 [04:10] <SoBeLiz> sigh well. its 4 am. i give up. progress was made.. i can play offline at least
#648 [04:10] * GreyVulpine nods.
#648 [04:11] <SoBeLiz> thank you very much for your help!
#649 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> Hop back on tomorrow, we do have a pool of some very talented people here. Somebody else may have better luck
#650 [04:11] <SoBeLiz> I likely will lol. TY again
#651 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's a start.
#652 [04:11] * GreyVulpine tips hat
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#655 [04:35] <huddler> It keeps saying not downloaded when i HAVE downloaded the game :*( help?
#656 [04:35] <Wug> huddler: try force updating?
#657 [04:36] <huddler> Do i wait or does it force update automatically?
#658 [04:37] <Wug> :fu
#659 [04:37] <WugBot> fu: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#660 [04:37] <WugBot> fu: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#661 [04:37] <huddler> Still failed :C
#662 [04:38] <Wug> do you have a firewall?
#663 [04:38] <Wug> though I suspect
#664 [04:38] <Wug> do you have java 7 installed
#665 [04:38] <Wug> if you do, roll back to java 6
#666 [04:38] <Wug> you can uninstall java from add/remove programs
#667 [04:38] <Wug> here is a link to the correct version:
#668 [04:38] <Wug> :j
#669 [04:38] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#670 [04:39] <huddler> thankyou!
#671 [04:39] <huddler> whats wrong with 7
#672 [04:39] <Wug> it fails to connect for some unknown reason
#673 [04:39] <huddler> And still says failed :(
#674 [04:39] <Wug> did you check if you have java 7?
#675 [04:40] <huddler> yep
#676 [04:40] <huddler> i clicked that link and it says congratulations you have (that version) installed
#677 [04:40] <Wug> what version
#678 [04:40] <huddler> 6 update 30
#679 [04:41] <huddler> or whatever
#680 [04:41] <Wug> the link I posted doesnt tell you if you have that version installed or not
#681 [04:41] <huddler> hhhh
#682 [04:41] <huddler> i went on the site
#683 [04:41] <huddler> and went to install 6
#684 [04:42] <Wug> try your firewall then
#685 [04:43] <Wug> check if minecraft updates properly if you disable it
#686 [04:43] <huddler> how doi do that?
#687 [04:43] <huddler> im not that tech savvy :( sorry
#688 [04:44] <Wug> do you have any antimalware software?
#689 [04:44] <Wug> something like norton, avast, avg, mcafee
#690 [04:44] <Wug> windows has a built in firewall too
#691 [04:44] <huddler> Umm let me check
#692 [04:44] <huddler> None of that
#693 [04:44] <huddler> but it IS windows
#694 [04:45] <Wug> has it ever worked before?
#695 [04:45] <Wug> I should have asked that earlier
#696 [04:46] <Wug> on that specific computer, I mean
#697 [04:50] <huddler> Nope
#698 [04:54] <Timmany> omg the mincraft just don wanna reply my email
#699 [04:54] <Wug> hmm. do you happen to have a ! in your windows username
#700 [04:54] <Timmany> lolz
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#702 [04:57] <Wug> huddler: ^
#703 [04:57] <Wug> do you happen to have a ! in your windows username
#704 [04:58] <Timmany> wut should i do to play.... i piad i checked the moneyboorkers n my creditcard company.... i email minecraft...
#705 [04:58] <Timmany> damn...
#706 [04:59] <Wug> :mb/support > Timmany
#707 [04:59] <WugBot> Timmany: (mb/support) If you paid with a credit card (via moneybookers) and money has cleared your account but your account status has not been updated, you may need to contact MoneyBookers support.
#708 [04:59] <WugBot> Timmany: (mb/support) MoneyBookers support can be reached at us-service@moneybookers.com (Make sure to include as much information as possible)
#709 [04:59] <huddler> whats a windows username?!
#710 [04:59] <Wug> huddler: your windows account name, on your computer
#711 [04:59] <Timmany> i email them alrdy
#712 [04:59] <Wug> Timmany: you emailed moneybookers?
#713 [04:59] <Timmany> yea
#714 [04:59] <Wug> have they responded?
#715 [04:59] <Timmany> like yestreday
#716 [04:59] <Timmany> no...
#717 [05:00] <Timmany> n minecraft didn respond either
#718 [05:00] <Timmany> i don even kno where my money goes...
#719 [05:00] <Wug> Timmany: as far as I know, moneybookers is the last place it was
#720 [05:00] <Wug> but I dont actually know
#721 [05:01] <Timmany> sigh... they just don reply...
#722 [05:02] <Wug> Timmany: try again then
#723 [05:03] <Wug> you might be able to get further if you can login
#724 [05:03] <Wug> and open a ticket from your account or something
#725 [05:03] <Timmany> login to?
#726 [05:03] <huddler> how do i find my windows name
#727 [05:04] <Wug> huddler: are you on vista/7 or xp
#728 [05:04] <Wug> Timmany: to moneybooker
#729 [05:04] <Wug> s
#730 [05:04] <huddler> xp
#731 [05:04] <Timmany> k
#732 [05:05] <Wug> huddler: hit win+r and type cmd and then enter
#733 [05:05] <huddler> windows xp vers 5.1
#734 [05:05] <huddler> ??
#735 [05:05] <Wug> huddler: did you do that?
#736 [05:06] <Wug> huddler: have you opened the command prompt
#737 [05:06] <Wug> yes or no
#738 [05:06] <Wug> its 5:00am and I really want to go to bed
#739 [05:07] <Wug> you have 10 seconds
#740 [05:08] <TheNoodle> Night wug :p
#741 [05:08] <Wug> goodnight huddler, you can ask someone else for help later. tell them you think it might be a !
#742 [05:08] <tyteen4a03> :P
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#745 [05:12] <Timmany> can u check if i paid alrdy?
#746 [05:12] * TheNoodle nods
#746 [05:12] <Timmany> Timmany is my unsername
#747 [05:12] <TheNoodle> !paid timmany
#748 [05:12] <Timmany> omg...
#749 [05:12] <TheNoodle> Hasn't gone through
#750 [05:12] <Timmany> k
#751 [05:13] <Timmany> cause the status in moneybookers shows processed... i think its minecraft's problem now....
#752 [05:13] <huddler> o_o
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#754 [05:14] <TheNoodle> ??> Timmany payment
#755 [05:14] <VoxelHead> Timmany: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#756 [05:14] <VoxelHead> Timmany: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#757 [05:14] <Timmany> kk
#758 [05:14] <Timmany> thx
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#760 [05:15] <Taffy> I am in need of a ranking system for my server so some poeple can do all the commands (OP im guessing) and some people can only do some (People I like) and lastly a rank where commands are very limited (Newcommer to my server)
#761 [05:15] <Timmany> i ll just hv email again then...
#762 [05:16] <ATRus> Hello, i'm experiencing problems to log in to the Minecraft game on ubuntu 11.10: every time I try to log in, i get the error "Login failed", while I can connect to the website. Where does this problem come from?
#763 [05:16] <tyteen4a03> Taffy: Classic or SMP?
#764 [05:16] <tyteen4a03> ATRus: Try turning off your firewalls
#765 [05:16] <tyteen4a03> oh wasit
#766 [05:16] <Taffy> I actually just found a tutorial online that recomended SuperpermsBridge v1.2
#767 [05:17] <ATRus> I don't have any.
#768 [05:17] <tyteen4a03> nevermind, I went stupid
#769 [05:17] <tyteen4a03> Taffy: That is a plugin to Bukkit I believe, are you hosting a SMP server?
#770 [05:17] <tyteen4a03> (that works with Minecraft 1.0.0)
#771 [05:18] <Taffy> yes its an SMP
#772 [05:18] <tyteen4a03> Taffy: Then you need a custom server, most people here use Bukkit, see http://bukkit.org
#773 [05:18] <Taffy> I am using Bukkit
#774 [05:18] <Taffy> lol
#775 [05:18] <Taffy> My server is already up
#776 [05:18] <tyteen4a03> Taffy: oh, then you need the Permissions plugin
#777 [05:18] <tyteen4a03> don't mind Vox
#778 [05:18] <Taffy> I know lol I was wondering if there were any youd recommend
#779 [05:19] <Taffy> but I found one
#780 [05:19] <Taffy> so I should be good :)
#781 [05:19] <tyteen4a03> ok :P
#782 [05:19] <Taffy> :)
#783 [05:19] <Timmany> is there a way i can speak to minecraft directly???
#784 [05:19] <Boreeas> Timmany: Minecraft is a program
#785 [05:19] <tyteen4a03> Timmany: If you mean Mojang, try help@mojang.com
#786 [05:19] <Boreeas> Timmany: It can't talk
#787 [05:20] <TheNoodle> lolled
#788 [05:20] <Timmany> yea sorry lolz
#789 [05:20] <Timmany> do they have like msn n stuuf?
#790 [05:20] <Boreeas> nope
#791 [05:20] <Timmany> k....
#792 [05:20] <Timmany> wait wait wait wait wait..
#793 [05:20] <TheNoodle> Timmany, it's similar to companies such as ea, you can't add them on msn either.
#794 [05:21] <Timmany> k lolz
#795 [05:21] <ATRus> Then what should I do if I don't have any firewal?
#796 [05:21] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#797 [05:21] <tyteen4a03> ??< error/badlogin
#798 [05:22] <Boreeas> :<
#799 [05:23] <tyteen4a03> I don't know much about ubuntu, but you can try checking your hosts file and ensure you typed in the correct username and pass
#800 [05:23] <tyteen4a03> ??< error/textspecificlcd
#801 [05:23] <ATRus> I'm sur I didn't mistype thep as I succeeded in login to the Minecraft website...
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#804 [05:30] <mib_g41mj0> Hey.
#805 [05:30] <mib_g41mj0> I was wondering,..
#806 [05:30] <mib_g41mj0> Let me just find it again...
#807 [05:31] <mib_g41mj0> "What does Pixel format not accelerated" mean?
#808 [05:31] <mib_g41mj0> Im trying to play the classic Minecraft.
#809 [05:31] <mib_g41mj0> And that just comes up.
#810 [05:31] <Taffy> So I understand how to set permissions using SuperpermsBridge-1.2.jar for general people who connect and OP's but how do I add a new group
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#816 [06:14] <clarkyboy898> hi
#817 [06:15] <lemon-rev> boo
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#820 [06:16] <clarkyboy898> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 12/21/1
#821 [06:16] <clarkyboy898> anyone there
#822 [06:16] <clarkyboy898> when i started mine craft it said Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1
#823 [06:16] <lemon-rev> when does it do that
#824 [06:16] <lemon-rev> stop spamming
#825 [06:17] <clarkyboy898> thats wat it comes up with
#826 [06:17] <yoshi> after i installed minecraft and tried to go on it said like i dont have the rite software and we have a advanced game card
#827 [06:17] <lemon-rev> hm
#828 [06:17] <yoshi> i have an advanced game card']
#829 [06:17] <clarkyboy898> to me i said Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Gener
#830 [06:17] <lemon-rev> clarkyboy898 goot java.com and try and do an update STOP SPAMMING THE CHANNEL
#831 [06:17] <yoshi> ok thx
#832 [06:18] <clarkyboy898> i hav
#833 [06:18] <aradis> clarkyboy898: stop pasting this error report here, we are not support@mojang com
#834 [06:18] <lemon-rev> yoshi what os do you have ?
#835 [06:18] <lemon-rev> lol i think vox just banned one of them lol
#836 [06:19] <clarkyboy898> it didn't work
#837 [06:19] <lemon-rev> or quited them down
#838 [06:19] <lemon-rev> clarkyboy898 windows / mac ?
#839 [06:19] <clarkyboy898> it still say it crashed
#840 [06:19] <clarkyboy898> mac
#841 [06:19] <lemon-rev> oh
#842 [06:19] <lemon-rev> hm,
#843 [06:20] <clarkyboy898> wat do i do
#844 [06:20] <clarkyboy898> i hav my server up and need to go on it
#845 [06:20] <lemon-rev> clarkyboy898 only thing i can think of so much as atm is minecraft fourms and hunt threre atm, im no god with macs hopefully someone will come hlep you
#846 [06:20] <lemon-rev> help *
#847 [06:20] <clarkyboy898> thx
#848 [06:22] <clarkyboy898> they said they can't help me
#849 [06:23] <clarkyboy898> gtg bye then
#850 [06:23] <clarkyboy898> thx alot
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#858 [06:46] <mib_bfvor4> after installing minecolony mod, my minecraft would get an error at startup do you know why this is happening
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#860 [06:54] <mib_dh4pwx> hello
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#864 [06:57] <noodlot> Hi
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#867 [07:03] <TensaZangetsu> Hello everyone! I need help! I would like to use noclip on my server. I have Zombe mods, and as I saw, there is noclip in it, but it doesn't work.
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#869 [07:03] <Ruku> Anyone know if towny will work with the news bukkit build?
#870 [07:05] <Ruku> Does Towny working with the 1597 Version of Bukkit?
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#872 [07:05] <Ruku> Does Towny work with Bukkit 1597?
#873 [07:06] <Ruku> Over 100 members and no one even trys to help, great.
#874 [07:06] <Ruku> Over 100 members and no one even trys to help, great.
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#878 [07:16] <mib_7y5m2x> Hello, I just bought minecraft for my son a day ago, but when he logs on we just get a white screen and nothing happens. We tried downloading the game instead of play in browser but then we just get a black screen. Any ideas?
#879 [07:19] <mib_7y5m2x> I have to leave for work soon so maybe I'll try back later and see if someone is on
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#884 [07:32] <aljorub> how do you lock chest with signs
#885 [07:34] <dylanbarberdude> lwc for smp
#886 [07:38] <dylanbarberdude> There are good and bad things about vivid wireless. +Static IP +No Landline needed -takes time to request data +recives data lightning speed -Multiplayer Game Servers Lag +Cheap
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#890 [07:48] <cruz0r> I downloaded minecraft i have played it a while and the it just crashed when i enter a world it just goes to saving chunks. i tryed with another user on my computer it worked in browser. but then i downloaded the xray mod from skyda.com and then it sp
#891 [07:48] <cruz0r> stop workin
#892 [07:48] <cruz0r> skydaz. sry
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#901 [08:29] <anerag> I can't seem to connect any server,help?
#902 [08:31] <anerag> Could someone help?
#903 [08:32] <Timmany> will mojang reply email@@?
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#905 [08:39] <mib_yfak4u> my world in creative mode kept me floating in air. I cannot move. What should I do?
#906 [08:40] <Isabel> my world in creative mode kept me floating in air. I cannot move. What should I do?
#907 [08:44] <Isabel> Are you there?
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#909 [08:46] <Miauw62> hey guys.
#910 [08:46] <Miauw62> i have a little problem.
#911 [08:46] <WugBot> Miauw62: (pastebin) Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#912 [08:46] <Miauw62> i want to force-update mc
#913 [08:46] <WugBot> Miauw62: (pastebin) Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#914 [08:46] <Miauw62> hello?
#915 [08:46] <Miauw62> ...
#916 [08:48] <Miauw62> kk, this is the problem: i want to force-update mc to use mcp. it stops at lwlgj. This probably means that my antivirus (avg) is blocking it.
#917 [08:48] <Miauw62> can somebody help me how to make it not block?
#918 [08:49] <Miauw62> hello?
#919 [08:49] <Miauw62> nvm.
#920 [08:49] <Timmany> anyone here to help?
#921 [08:49] <Miauw62> lol, it worked.
#922 [08:50] <Miauw62> i dont think so timmany.
#923 [08:50] <Miauw62> i just asked a question myself
#924 [08:50] <Miauw62> but i might be able to help.
#925 [08:50] <Miauw62> whats your problem?
#926 [08:50] <Timmany> hmmm just tha mojang didn reply my email
#927 [08:50] <Miauw62> nothing to do about that.
#928 [08:50] <Timmany> i paid yesterday n still cant play now
#929 [08:50] <Timmany> lolz
#930 [08:50] <Miauw62> oh
#931 [08:50] <Miauw62> why cant you play?
#932 [08:50] <Timmany> they haven make my account premium
#933 [08:51] <Miauw62> and are you sure you pointed it to the right place.
#934 [08:51] <Miauw62> sure you bought it?
#935 [08:51] <Timmany> yea
#936 [08:51] <Miauw62> are you logged in?
#937 [08:51] <Timmany> cant login cause i m not premium
#938 [08:51] <Miauw62> ...
#939 [08:51] <Miauw62> you can have a non-premium acc
#940 [08:51] <Miauw62> then you still can login.
#941 [08:51] <Miauw62> try logging in on minecraft.net
#942 [08:51] <Timmany> i check moneybookers n my creditcard company
#943 [08:52] <Miauw62> sure.
#944 [08:52] <Timmany> they all i say the money is transfer
#945 [08:52] <Miauw62> i dont know much on that side.
#946 [08:52] <Miauw62> soz, i cant help you.
#947 [08:52] <Timmany> lolz k
#948 [08:52] <Miauw62> cya
#949 [08:52] <Timmany> cya
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#951 [08:55] <ghostofchristmaspast> is there any body here
#952 [08:56] <ghostofchristmaspast> Wugbot can you help me
#953 [08:56] <WugBot> ghostofchristmaspast: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#954 [08:56] <WugBot> ghostofchristmaspast: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#955 [08:57] <ghostofchristmaspast> i can only play my mc for like 10 or 5 min at a time
#956 [08:57] <ghostofchristmaspast> what can i do to fix that
#957 [09:00] <ghostofchristmaspast> why do i have to do that wugbot
#958 [09:02] <Boreeas> because he needs that info
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#960 [09:03] <ghostofchristmaspast> ok heres the link: http://pastebin.com/FFkMm0KN
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#962 [09:04] <ghostofchristmaspast> so Boreeas do u help with mc to
#963 [09:05] <ghostofchristmaspast> or help at all
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#965 [09:05] <Boreeas> ghostofchristmaspast: Actually, I'm at work right now, so I can't really
#966 [09:05] <ghostofchristmaspast> o ok
#967 [09:05] <Boreeas> ghostofchristmaspast: Do what wugbot told you, and someone might pick you up
#968 [09:06] <ghostofchristmaspast> ok i have
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#970 [09:33] <ghostofchristmaspast> wow im bord
#971 [09:47] <ghostofchristmaspast> man i need help with mc
#972 [09:47] <Timmany> any help here?
#973 [09:47] <Timmany> have anyone email to mojang before?
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#975 [09:50] <ghostofchristmaspast> no help yet
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#977 [09:53] <ghostofchristmaspast> hey GreyVulpine can you help us
#978 [09:54] <squiggy> my computer crashed a few minutes ago and i was playing on my origonal survival mode game and i turned my comp back on and it wont show up in the game menu. i looked in the .mincraft file and the game is still saved there help!!!
#979 [09:54] <ghostofchristmaspast> mine douse that to
#980 [09:54] <squiggy> ya makes me made you shld see my house
#981 [09:55] <squiggy> mad*
#982 [09:56] <ghostofchristmaspast> close out of mine craft and wit like 5 or ten seconds then open it back up and if that dousnt work make a new map with the same name and same seed and play. it shuld have the stuff u built on it
#983 [09:56] <squiggy> i didnt have a seed for that map
#984 [09:57] <ghostofchristmaspast> ok then same name
#985 [09:57] <ghostofchristmaspast> i put seeds on my maps
#986 [09:58] <ghostofchristmaspast> did it work
#987 [09:58] <squiggy> it doesnt look anything like mine dude
#988 [09:58] <Ryladine> You both realize that spawn can move on seeds right?
#989 [09:59] <Ryladine> The map is exactly the same but you may spawn in a different location.
#990 [09:59] <ghostofchristmaspast> try putting gargamel as a seed on the map
#991 [09:59] <squiggy> ok
#992 [10:00] <ghostofchristmaspast> my computer crashed alot and i lost the map and i still have the three towers i built
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#996 [10:01] <squiggy> the trees are all realy weird
#997 [10:01] <Grooobi> hi., ein deutscher hier?
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#999 [10:01] <ghostofchristmaspast> ya but there is villages
#1000 [10:03] <ghostofchristmaspast> at the northeast side and one more place but i forget just look around for them
#1001 [10:03] <squiggy> ok
#1002 [10:04] <Grooobi> what is the shortest pulse u can give a redstone circuit?
#1003 [10:04] <ghostofchristmaspast> Ryladine can you help us with the problem our computer crashes we play mc for a lil bit
#1004 [10:05] <ghostofchristmaspast> hey Grooobi what language where u speking a second ago
#1005 [10:06] <Grooobi> english but I prefer german
#1006 [10:06] <ghostofchristmaspast> cool i speack german
#1007 [10:06] <ghostofchristmaspast> and im a bad speller
#1008 [10:07] <Doublehalf> I can run my minecraft server, but it doesn't seem to load any of my plugins at all. Is there anything I should add or remove to make the server load plugins?
#1009 [10:08] <squiggy> i want my map back=(
#1010 [10:08] <ghostofchristmaspast> look up a youtube vid on how to make a mc server ok
#1011 [10:10] <Doublehalf> I have already seen loads of movies like that and the only solution they give would be to use a run.bat file. But I haven't been able to find a run.bat file that also loads plugins. It only just starts up a server.
#1012 [10:10] <Grooobi> need some help with a redstone circuit
#1013 [10:11] <ghostofchristmaspast> squiggy and Doublehalf ich weib nicht, ob ich ihnen helfen kann idk if i can help u
#1014 [10:11] <tyteen4a03> Doublehalf: The run.bat file... hang on
#1015 [10:11] <tyteen4a03> Doublehalf: Can't you just use Minecraft_server.exe?
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#1017 [10:11] <squiggy> groobi do you have a map seed?
#1018 [10:12] <tyteen4a03> ghostofchristmaspast: What is your problem?
#1019 [10:13] <Doublehalf> I am using minecraft_server.jar or exe not sure, but...the server does work, but it only doesn't load plugins
#1020 [10:13] <Grooobi> nope
#1021 [10:13] <Grooobi> what is the shortest pulse u can give a redstone circuit?
#1022 [10:13] <tyteen4a03> Doublehalf: you need bukkit to load plugins
#1023 [10:13] <tyteen4a03> Doublehalf: http://bukkit.org
#1024 [10:14] <Doublehalf> Back to the good old bukkit stuff. I hope it's gonna work. I just noticed a new build.
#1025 [10:14] <tyteen4a03> Doublehalf: Yup :P
#1026 [10:15] <Doublehalf> I just hope it will be compatible with 1.0.0 clients.
#1027 [10:17] <tyteen4a03> Doublehalf: I don't think there's a recommended build for 1.0.0 yet, but I am really outdated in bukkit stuff
#1028 [10:18] <Doublehalf> Well, I just downloaded the 1.0.1-R1 jar from bukkit and I placed it in my server map. Opened the jar and boom it's spamming me with text. This should be a good thing, because I think it's trying to load plugins now :D
#1029 [10:18] <Doublehalf> Thank you very much :)
#1030 [10:19] <tyteen4a03> Doublehalf: :P no problem
#1031 [10:19] <ghostofchristmaspast> one of the people who are suposec to help us should be over here
#1032 [10:19] <Taffy> HEllo I have a quick question
#1033 [10:19] <Taffy> worldguard.region.define
#1034 [10:19] <Taffy> means that
#1035 [10:20] <tyteen4a03> ghostofchristmaspast: I did ask for your question
#1036 [10:20] <tyteen4a03> And we are only volunteers, we have no obligation to help you
#1037 [10:20] <Taffy> defined by a moderator
#1038 [10:20] <Taffy> I am talking about world gaurd BTW
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#1040 [10:21] <tyteen4a03> Taffy: Type "/j #worldguard" in the IRC chat box
#1041 [10:21] <tyteen4a03> then ask your question there
#1042 [10:21] <Taffy> I did, alas no answer
#1043 [10:21] <tyteen4a03> Taffy: sometimes you gotta wait patiently, it's morninig hour over at the US, and people are working
#1044 [10:21] <tyteen4a03> *morning
#1045 [10:22] <Taffy> okay I was just hoping someone here would know
#1046 [10:22] <Taffy> I mean others are bound to have tried the mod
#1047 [10:22] <Taffy> and It is minecraft related
#1048 [10:22] <Taffy> so I figured id cover some ground
#1049 [10:22] <tyteen4a03> Taffy: We generally don't help with mods
#1050 [10:23] <tyteen4a03> *support
#1051 [10:23] <tyteen4a03> but we do try to provide some help
#1052 [10:24] <Taffy> I apologize I should have read the rules
#1053 [10:24] <Taffy> - If you need assistance with writing a mod, please check out #bukkit, #mcp-modding or #risucraft, where that is the intended channel topic.
#1054 [10:24] <tyteen4a03> it's ok :)
#1055 [10:24] <Taffy> :)
#1056 [10:24] <tyteen4a03> You are better than the 99% of the people who don't read the rules
#1057 [10:24] <tyteen4a03> maybe 98%, but still the very majority
#1058 [10:25] <Taffy> haha I try to read the topic but Im usually wizzing around to differnt windows so somtimes I get to lazy to read all the rules
#1059 [10:25] <ghostofchristmaspast> ok who needs help with a server
#1060 [10:25] <tyteen4a03> oh, you're not on mibbit
#1061 [10:26] <Taffy> mibbit?
#1062 [10:26] <Doublehalf> I've got a new problem with the same file. When I type in "stop" to close the java thing, it won't close down but only show me a load of errors. (can I paste a pastebin link here?)
#1063 [10:26] <tyteen4a03> mibbit is a web irc client
#1064 [10:26] <tyteen4a03> Doublehalf: go on
#1065 [10:26] <Doublehalf> http://pastebin.com/BFrfcbvS
#1066 [10:26] <Taffy> tyteen4a03 I'm not trying to advertise but you seem pretty cool if you would like to join my server :)
#1067 [10:26] <tyteen4a03> Taffy: I don't play SMP, and we don't allow advertising here
#1068 [10:27] <tyteen4a03> Doublehalf: I think you can ignore that bit
#1069 [10:27] <Taffy> Oh Im sorry lol I just wanted to see if you wanted to play with me xF
#1070 [10:27] <Doublehalf> Should I just click the X to stop the server then?
#1071 [10:27] <tyteen4a03> but to make sure, you can disable plugins one-by-one to see which ones are causing the error
#1072 [10:27] <tyteen4a03> Doublehalf: after the text has stopped 5 seconds, yes
#1073 [10:28] <Doublehalf> Alright, thanks again :)
#1074 [10:28] <Doublehalf> I probably shouldn't have downloaded a massive package of like 1.4 Gb of plugins and then smashed them into the map plugins together with the rest of them :P
#1075 [10:31] <tyteen4a03> Doublehalf: I tried once with a website with loads of plugins, didn't turn out good :P
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#1077 [10:32] <Doublehalf> Great, now that I've closed it it won't open back up again. It probably would be best to remove the plugins and add plugins 1 by 1?
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#1080 [10:33] <tyteen4a03> yes, and probably add the most useful plugins firsy
#1081 [10:33] <tyteen4a03> *t
#1082 [10:33] <Nilsyboy> Hello!! can somebody PLEASE help me???
#1083 [10:33] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: yes?
#1084 [10:33] <Doublehalf> Alright, will do :D
#1085 [10:33] <Nilsyboy> i just purchased minecraft, and when i try to log in it says: can't connect to minecraft.net
#1086 [10:34] <Nilsyboy> What to do :(
#1087 [10:34] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: Try turning off any security software or firewalls
#1088 [10:34] <Nilsyboy> ?
#1089 [10:35] <Nilsyboy> okay, just wait one moment ;)
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#1091 [10:38] <Grooobi> force update maybe?
#1092 [10:39] <tyteen4a03> Grooobi: not related to issue
#1093 [10:39] <tyteen4a03> If he can't reach minecraft.net at the first place, he wouldn't be able to update
#1094 [10:39] <Nilsyboy> all my firewalls are now off, but still can't log in
#1095 [10:40] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: Sure all firewalls are off, including your router ones?
#1096 [10:41] <Nilsyboy> not completely sure, since i don't know if all walls are turned off... got this shitty program... Mcafee...
#1097 [10:41] <Doublehalf> Ah, anti-virus programs like that usually block a lot of games.
#1098 [10:41] <Doublehalf> Try turning that off. If you can't find a normal way, end the process in the Task manager.
#1099 [10:42] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: Antiviruses are counted as security softwares
#1100 [10:42] <tyteen4a03> so try turning it off, or completely uninstall it
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#1102 [10:45] <heye> hey @all i have a problem.
#1103 [10:45] <WugBot> heye: (pastebin) Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#1104 [10:45] <Grooobi> try playing mc in the browser on minecraft.net found that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCdFHmGGWrc
#1105 [10:45] <tyteen4a03> heye: Yes?
#1106 [10:45] <heye> I have a Java Problem
#1107 [10:45] <WugBot> heye: (pastebin) Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#1108 [10:46] <tyteen4a03> heye: Can you tell us the details?
#1109 [10:46] <Grooobi> tyteen do u have some ingame redstone knowledge?
#1110 [10:47] <Nilsyboy> I'm now removing the AVG security, since that allready had expired, hope that makes the difference
#1111 [10:47] <tyteen4a03> Grooobi: very limited
#1112 [10:47] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: My, how many antivirus softwares do you have installed?
#1113 [10:47] <Grooobi> kk bb
#1114 [10:48] <Nilsyboy> two, don't know why, actually
#1115 [10:48] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: It is strongly advised that you only keep one antivirus software
#1116 [10:48] <Nilsyboy> have to restart my computer ;) just wait one minute
#1117 [10:48] <tyteen4a03> ok
#1118 [10:52] <Boreeas> Only 2? He needs at least 5 to be completely save
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#1120 [10:53] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: :P
#1121 [10:53] <Boreeas> <.<
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#1124 [10:54] <Nilsyboy> Back!:)
#1125 [10:54] <Nilsyboy> but still got the same problem tho..:/
#1126 [10:54] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: uninstalled both AVG and McAfee?
#1127 [10:55] <Nilsyboy> hmmm, looks like AVG just got back itself...
#1128 [10:56] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: can you try uninstalling it again?
#1129 [10:56] <Nilsyboy> Yes ;) i shall give it a try;)
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#1136 [11:04] <tyteen4a03> ??> Nilsyboy dont/pm
#1137 [11:04] <VoxelHead> Nilsyboy: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1138 [11:04] <mindcat> ok, how to setting java memory for minecraft
#1139 [11:04] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: It happens when Java is blocked by AVG
#1140 [11:04] <tyteen4a03> mindcat: hang on
#1141 [11:04] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#1142 [11:04] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: try Revo Uninstaller
#1143 [11:05] <Nilsyboy> Okey, sorry
#1144 [11:05] <Nilsyboy> "Additional Message: the removal of the product failed." looks like i can't remove AVG..?
#1145 [11:05] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: try Revo Uninstaller
#1146 [11:05] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: do you remember the FAQ for more java mem?
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#1148 [11:06] <tyteen4a03> ??< fcvo
#1149 [11:06] <mindcat> my memory is 1GB
#1150 [11:06] <tyteen4a03> hang on, finding the FAQ entry about allocating more memory
#1151 [11:07] <tyteen4a03> but mindcat: 1GB of memory is kinda low...
#1152 [11:07] <mindcat> where?
#1153 [11:07] <mindcat> i dont have money... DDR1
#1154 [11:07] <tyteen4a03> Can you launch minecraft?
#1155 [11:07] <mindcat> yes
#1156 [11:07] <tyteen4a03> wow... ddr1...
#1157 [11:07] <tyteen4a03> You probably will want a new computer instead, but hang on
#1158 [11:08] <tyteen4a03> mindcat: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/350344-allocating-more-memory-to-java-windows/
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#1160 [11:10] <Doublehalf> If a plugin consists of a jar file with a map (which contains config files and more jar files) should the map be placed in the map "plugins" aswell or should it be somewhere else?
#1161 [11:11] <tyteen4a03> Doublehalf: Follow the install instructions
#1162 [11:11] <tyteen4a03> We don't know what plugin you are installing, so we can't be sure
#1163 [11:12] <Doublehalf> Well I'm currently looking at the Citizens plugin. Unzipping this file gave me a Citizens.jar, but also a map called Citizens with 2 yml files, but also Another map with the 6 classes (all jar files)
#1164 [11:13] <tyteen4a03> oh, by map you meant directory
#1165 [11:13] <langkid1> Help, one of my friends on Steam just took some crack, what should I do?
#1166 [11:13] <tyteen4a03> yes, just throw them into the plugins folder
#1167 [11:13] <tyteen4a03> langkid1: Tell him to watch #pony
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#1169 [11:14] <Boreeas> ;kick langkid1 u so funny. lol.
#1170 [11:14] * WugBot kicked langkid1 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: angkid1 :u so funny. lol.)
#1171 [11:14] <Doublehalf> Alright, thanks. And sorry about the map/directory thing. I thought it would be the same, but apparently it's a Dutch word :P
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#1173 [11:14] <langkid1> I'm not being funny, he's on crack and he's going crazy
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#1175 [11:15] <Boreeas> langkid1: That's kind of the wrong place to say that, right? We are a minecraft support channel, not a life support channel
#1176 [11:15] <langkid1> k :)
#1177 [11:15] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: he's a troll
#1178 [11:15] <tyteen4a03> mostly
#1179 [11:15] <Boreeas> tyteen4a03: I realize
#1180 [11:15] <Boreeas> Actually, can I still use !kick?
#1181 [11:15] <tyteen4a03> you can try
#1182 [11:15] <Boreeas> !kick langkid1 Go away and never come back
#1183 [11:15] * AuBot kicked Boreeas from #minecrafthelp (Reason: oreeas :No. Just...No.)
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#1185 [11:15] <langkid1> ...
#1186 [11:15] <Boreeas> Apparently not
#1187 [11:15] <tyteen4a03> langkid1: Go away and never come back
#1188 [11:16] <langkid1> tyteen4a03, you aren't here when I'm not acting like a troll
#1189 [11:16] <Boreeas> Too bad, !kick also had a 10 second ban
#1190 [11:16] <Muffins> well, everyone's in a friendly mood!
#1191 [11:16] <Boreeas> Hi there, Muffins
#1192 [11:16] <Boreeas> :D
#1193 [11:16] <tyteen4a03> langkid1: in #rct, you don't seem to be one
#1194 [11:16] <Muffins> Hello there
#1195 [11:16] <tyteen4a03> muffffffffffins
#1196 [11:16] <Nilsyboy> now it looks like i got removed the AVG, just awaiting the restart, then hopefully i can log in:)
#1197 [11:17] <Boreeas> lol, tyteen4a03
#1198 [11:17] <Muffins> so, who wants to help me fix minecraft?!
#1199 [11:17] <Muffins> I get a bsod whenever I launch it
#1200 [11:17] <tyteen4a03> Muffins: give us the BSOD code
#1201 [11:18] <Muffins> let me see if I have that with me...
#1202 [11:18] <Muffins> no, all I have is the 2nd line, SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION
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#1204 [11:20] <Nilsyboy> hmmm.. i don't get it.. still can't log in. Is there more firewalls, in the control panel?
#1205 [11:20] <tyteen4a03> Muffins: I need you to BSoD your computer again, and copy as much information as you can in the last lines, along with the error code that look like this: 0x12345678
#1206 [11:20] <Nilsyboy> i'm stuck :/
#1207 [11:20] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: Only Windows Firewall in Security Center
#1208 [11:20] <Muffins> Right, I know what you mean
#1209 [11:20] <Muffins> I'll be back ina few
#1210 [11:20] <tyteen4a03> ok
#1211 [11:20] <Nilsyboy> and that firewall doesn't have anything to say? or?
#1212 [11:20] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: It is off?
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#1215 [11:21] <Muffins> ok, something happened this time that's never happened before
#1216 [11:21] <Nilsyboy> yepp
#1217 [11:21] <tyteen4a03> :pastebin
#1218 [11:21] <WugBot> pastebin: Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#1219 [11:21] <tyteen4a03> put it all in a pastebin
#1220 [11:21] <Muffins> now I saw the minecraft dirt backround, no bsod
#1221 [11:22] <mindcat> ok, how to setting java memory for "minecraft launcher"
#1222 [11:22] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: hang on
#1223 [11:22] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: Do you know how to open the command prompt?
#1224 [11:22] <tyteen4a03> mindcat: Did you follow that tutorial?
#1225 [11:22] <Muffins> And it says "Failed to Launch - fatal error occured (2): null
#1226 [11:22] <mindcat> that is did not working
#1227 [11:22] <Nilsyboy> ehm, Ctrl+ALT+ Delete , this?
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#1229 [11:23] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: no
#1230 [11:23] <Muffins> everything appears to be the same in my .minecraft folder...
#1231 [11:23] <Nilsyboy> excuse my bad English :) I'm a Norwegian;)
#1232 [11:23] <tyteen4a03> Press WinKey+R, enter "cmd"
#1233 [11:23] <Nilsyboy> yes :)
#1234 [11:23] <Nilsyboy> and then?
#1235 [11:24] <Muffins> is this better or worse?
#1236 [11:24] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: Have you gotton in a command prompt yet?
#1237 [11:24] <Nilsyboy> yes:)
#1238 [11:24] <Nilsyboy> i opened it as you said, nothing more than that
#1239 [11:24] <tyteen4a03> ok
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#1241 [11:24] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: Type in "nslookup login.minecraft.net"
#1242 [11:25] <tyteen4a03> wait
#1243 [11:25] <tyteen4a03> I mean "tracert login.minecraft.net"
#1244 [11:25] <Nilsyboy> ok;)
#1245 [11:25] <tyteen4a03> sorry :P
#1246 [11:25] <mindcat> https://login.minecraft.net its bad for me, this making me login so slow
#1247 [11:25] <Nilsyboy> it's okay:) now, done
#1248 [11:26] <Nilsyboy> sooo, which of theese information do you want to know?:)
#1249 [11:26] <mindcat> or no response
#1250 [11:27] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: Right click, select all content, press enter, go to pastebin.com, paste them in and submit it, give us the link
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#1252 [11:28] <Muffins> so.
#1253 [11:28] <tyteen4a03> mindcat: Don't visit it from the browser, it won't return anything
#1254 [11:28] <tyteen4a03> Muffins: can I eat you? :P
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#1256 [11:29] <Muffins> if I can run minecraft, then yes.
#1257 [11:29] <Nilsyboy> here you go: http://pastebin.com/iLE9192U
#1258 [11:29] <Muffins> let me see.....
#1259 [11:29] <Muffins> nope, sorry, cant eat me
#1260 [11:29] <Muffins> does anybody know what this means? "Failed to Launch - fatal error occured (2): null"
#1261 [11:30] <Doublehalf> Well, after deleting all the plugins and only adding a few, I rebooted my computer for some reason, but I still can't start my server when I'm trying to open craftbukkit.jar -- Although every time I try to, it does activate another Java process :/
#1262 [11:30] <Doublehalf> Well, Muffins, if we can't eat you...then uhm.....*lick* mmmmhhh :P
#1263 [11:31] <Muffins> *rips off doublehalf's tongue*
#1264 [11:31] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: hmm, you should be able to connect to minecraft.net, can you try again?
#1265 [11:31] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: If it doesn't work, try reinstalling java
#1266 [11:31] <Muffins> should I redownload minecraft.exe, maybe?
#1267 [11:31] <tyteen4a03> Muffins: try reinstalling java
#1268 [11:31] <Doublehalf> Auch ;o
#1269 [11:31] <Muffins> I did that a few days ago...
#1270 [11:31] <tyteen4a03> Muffins: hmm
#1271 [11:31] <Nilsyboy> "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#1272 [11:32] <Nilsyboy> hmmmm
#1273 [11:32] <Muffins> I also
#1274 [11:32] <Nilsyboy> or do i have to download it once again? haven't done that since i deleted the viurs program
#1275 [11:32] <Muffins> reinstalled my drivers.
#1276 [11:33] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: You need to redownload java
#1277 [11:33] <Nilsyboy> okay, i'll try:)
#1278 [11:33] <tyteen4a03> Muffins: I am out of ideas
#1279 [11:33] <Muffins> damn.
#1280 [11:33] <Muffins> I mean, crap.
#1281 [11:33] <tyteen4a03> Well, if you did reinstall java...
#1282 [11:33] <mindcat> finally, i found it to solved my problem. i did not got help in here... http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/645785-fixed-exe-for-out-of-memory-problems/
#1283 [11:33] <Muffins> Maybe I should try again....?
#1284 [11:34] <Muffins> verifying my version now
#1285 [11:34] <tyteen4a03> mindcat: well, whatever works for you, but we tend to not modify anything
#1286 [11:35] <tyteen4a03> Muffins: we have a lot of talented people around here, maybe they can help you
#1287 [11:35] <tyteen4a03> say, Boreeas :P
#1288 [11:35] <Muffins> I think I found a possible problem
#1289 [11:36] <Muffins> My computer says Im missing Java Runtime Environment 1.6 u29.But, I've already attempted to install that three times.
#1290 [11:36] <Nilsyboy> now i have reinstalled java(version 6 update 30) ;) should i try to log in now?
#1291 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> Muffins: Corrupted installing maybe?
#1292 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: yes
#1293 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> Muffins: also, newest version is u30 now
#1294 [11:37] <Muffins> hm.
#1295 [11:37] <Boreeas> tyteen4a03: What shall I say?
#1296 [11:37] <Nilsyboy> daaamn!.. still can't log inn..:/
#1297 [11:37] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: I dunno, "Failed to Launch - fatal error occured (2): null"
#1298 [11:38] <tyteen4a03> ??> Nilsyboy win/hoss
#1299 [11:38] <tyteen4a03> ??> Nilsyboy win/hosts
#1300 [11:38] <VoxelHead> Nilsyboy: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1301 [11:38] <VoxelHead> Nilsyboy: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1302 [11:38] <Muffins> wait, java website is now saying it cant find my java. Brilliant, I've only installed it 5 times.
#1303 [11:38] <tyteen4a03> ??> Muffins win/javara
#1304 [11:38] <VoxelHead> Muffins: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1305 [11:39] <VoxelHead> Muffins: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software and you can download it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/javara/files/
#1306 [11:39] <tyteen4a03> You might want to try this tool
#1307 [11:39] <Boreeas> Muffins: Classic or Full version?
#1308 [11:39] <Muffins> full version
#1309 [11:39] <Muffins> I've played minecraft since alpha, but I have a new desktop now
#1310 [11:39] <Doublehalf> I can't seem to start my server anymore using the craftbukkit jar file. Even after removing all the plugins.
#1311 [11:40] <tyteen4a03> Doublehalf: what is the error?
#1312 [11:40] <Boreeas> Muffins: Try this, please, and tell us the output: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/DiagnoseMinecraft.bat
#1313 [11:41] <Nilsyboy> i don't get this... just bought Minecraft today, and even the first time i cant log in to the game, weird...
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#1315 [11:41] <Doublehalf> Well, there isn't really an error. It just doesn't open the usual java console that starts loading everything. It only shows the mouse animation that he's processing something... it does open a new java process every time, without any screens.
#1316 [11:41] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: it happens, please follow VoxelHead's instruction
#1317 [11:41] <Boreeas> Nilsyboy: Whats your login / username on minecraft.net?
#1318 [11:42] <Muffins> I dont think anything happened.
#1319 [11:42] <Muffins> a window opened for a split second
#1320 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> Muffins: Javara?
#1321 [11:42] <Muffins> Im working on it
#1322 [11:42] <Nilsyboy> Boreeas: my Login name is : Nilsyboy1994
#1323 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> !paid Nilsyboy1994
#1324 [11:42] <Nilsyboy> Tyteen4a03: i'm on it right now:)
#1325 [11:43] <Nilsyboy> yes?
#1326 [11:43] <tyteen4a03> ??> Nilsyboy win/hosts
#1327 [11:43] <VoxelHead> Nilsyboy: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1328 [11:43] <VoxelHead> Nilsyboy: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1329 [11:44] <Nilsyboy> just wait one minute :) working on it:)
#1330 [11:44] <Muffins> I think I eliminated an older version, now Im going to install u30
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#1332 [11:46] <Nilsyboy> voxelHead: here you go http://pastebin.com/Pr5T0Dth
#1333 [11:46] <tyteen4a03> ?? bot
#1334 [11:46] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#1335 [11:47] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: looks normal...
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#1337 [11:47] <Nilsyboy> serious :( ? then whats the problem :/?
#1338 [11:47] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: let me think
#1339 [11:47] <tyteen4a03> ??< error/cantconnect
#1340 [11:47] <mib_ihku4j> hello i got a problem my minecraft launcher cant connect to minecraft.net
#1341 [11:48] <Muffins> just try again
#1342 [11:48] <tyteen4a03> mib_ihku4j: Try turning off any antiviruses and firewalls
#1343 [11:48] <Nilsyboy> same problem that i have...
#1344 [11:48] <Muffins> it should work after a few tries. that's what I did, anyway
#1345 [11:48] <mib_ihku4j> ist all turned off
#1346 [11:48] <tyteen4a03> mib_ihku4j: Does it always happen?
#1347 [11:48] <mib_ihku4j> yes
#1348 [11:49] <Doublehalf> :/
#1349 [11:49] <Muffins> ok, I ran Javara and reinstalled Java
#1350 [11:49] <tyteen4a03> mib_ihkuj: You sure you turned off all your firewalls, even router ones (if any)?
#1351 [11:49] <Muffins> should I attempt to log in again?
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#1353 [11:50] <tyteen4a03> Muffins: Yes
#1354 [11:50] <powerpuffjpt> how can i make my online server hardcore? :/ doesnt seem to be an option
#1355 [11:50] <Muffins> ok, here I go
#1356 [11:50] <mib_ihku4j> yes yesterday it works and today not and before one week i got the same problem and i got deleted some folders and then it works
#1357 [11:50] <Muffins> same thing happened
#1358 [11:51] <Nilsyboy> tyteeb4a03 "even router ones (if any)?" can this be my problem too? or did it look okay?
#1359 [11:51] <Muffins> but at least Im not getting the bsod anymore...
#1360 [11:51] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: Yes, router firewalls could block connections too
#1361 [11:52] <Nilsyboy> how do i check that?
#1362 [11:52] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: Try throwing your router model up google and see if the router had a firewall
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#1364 [11:53] <Nilsyboy> okay, ill write down the name of the router ;) if i cant find anything i'll let you help me :)
#1365 [11:54] <Muffins> any other ideas?
#1366 [11:55] <tyteen4a03> Muffins: I am still googling
#1367 [11:55] <Timmany> anyone email to mojang before?
#1368 [11:55] <tyteen4a03> ??> Muffins win/reinst
#1369 [11:56] <VoxelHead> Muffins: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1370 [11:56] <VoxelHead> Muffins: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1371 [11:56] <Nilsyboy> i'm not sure what to look for, but the name of the router is: speedtouch st780wlt
#1372 [11:56] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: gotcha, hang on
#1373 [11:56] <Muffins> I just noticed I have 3 versions of java, actually
#1374 [11:57] <Muffins> 6 u29, 6 u30, and 7 u1
#1375 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> Muffins: Uninstall 6u29 and 7u1
#1376 [11:58] <Muffins> gotcha. brb when I get that done
#1377 [11:58] <mindcat> i am tryed that, its not working for me too
#1378 [11:58] <Timmany> have anyone email mojang before?
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#1380 [11:59] <Frosty`> Any help for me please?
#1381 [11:59] <tyteen4a03> Frosty`: Yes?
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#1383 [11:59] <Frosty`> I have the bad video driver problem
#1384 [12:00] <Frosty`> BUT, before you say anything
#1385 [12:00] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: ok, xales told me something that might be useful, but I need to learn how to use it
#1386 [12:00] <Frosty`> I have updated it
#1387 [12:00] <Frosty`> Yet, I still have the problem
#1388 [12:00] <tyteen4a03> ??> Frosty` win/dxdiag
#1389 [12:00] <VoxelHead> Frosty`: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1390 [12:00] <VoxelHead> Frosty`: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1391 [12:00] <tyteen4a03> This should tell us whether the update completeld correctly or not
#1392 [12:00] <Nilsyboy> GOOD! maby you can solve the problem :D just work on it :)
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#1394 [12:01] <libraryaddict> Is it possible to get the other music disks legitly?
#1395 [12:02] <Nilsyboy> tell me when you have figured it out :)
#1396 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: Can't find anything about your router
#1397 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> going to try a different apporach
#1398 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> libraryaddict: Except 11, every music CDs can be found on creepers
#1399 [12:03] <libraryaddict> Great!
#1400 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> Please use the wiki if you have any similar questions :)
#1401 [12:03] <Doublehalf> I'm back
#1402 [12:04] <Doublehalf> What should I do when craftbukkit doesn't start anything, and no errors pop up either?
#1403 [12:05] <Frosty`> tyteen4a03: http://pastebin.com/5UKCsxxZ
#1404 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> Frosty`: Your computer's too old to play Minecraft
#1405 [12:05] <Frosty`> D:
#1406 [12:05] <Nilsyboy> Okay do what you have to :) the only thing i want is to minecraft, so i can play :D haven't got to try it jet...
#1407 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> Even if it did run, it will not run well
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#1409 [12:05] <Frosty`> *Sigh*
#1410 [12:05] <Nilsyboy> fix*
#1411 [12:06] <Muffins> why sigh, guy?
#1412 [12:06] * |Kiikun|Janus| blecks at the 500mb ram
#1412 [12:06] <Frosty`> Oh well, thanl you very much for helping
#1413 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> np
#1414 [12:06] <Frosty`> I'll just have to wait till christmas >:D
#1415 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> |Kiikun|Janus|: Good lord you are here
#1416 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> :P
#1417 [12:06] <Frosty`> Well, bye then
#1418 [12:06] <|Kiikun|Janus|> sorry :D just woke up and getting ready for work
#1419 [12:06] <Frosty`> Have a nice day
#1420 [12:06] <Muffins> ok, so I 'uninstalled' the 2 other javas, even though the icons are still on the control panel
#1421 [12:06] <Muffins> ok, so I 'uninstalled' the 2 other javas, even though the icons are still on the control panel
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#1423 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> Muffins: your windows doesn't seem to install or unstall anything right...
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#1425 [12:07] <Muffins> it does appear that way.
#1426 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> Are you on XP?
#1427 [12:07] <Muffins> no, 7
#1428 [12:08] <tyteen4a03> hmm
#1429 [12:08] <Muffins> it's a good computer, despite how it can sometimes appear mentally ill.
#1430 [12:08] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Muffins: not administrator on the comp?
#1431 [12:08] <Muffins> I believe I am, let me check...
#1432 [12:09] <langkid1> can anyone link me to a world mapping tool?
#1433 [12:09] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :mcedit
#1434 [12:09] <WugBot> mcedit: MCEdit is a tool for editing minecraft maps. It can be used to fix chunk errors and a variety of other forms of corruption, and can also be used to build. To fix chunk errors, delete the chunk. To remove exp orbs, select a large area and delete entities.
#1435 [12:09] <WugBot> mcedit: MCEdit's download page is here: http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/download.html
#1436 [12:09] <Doublehalf> Even when you are the admin, the computer will simply not allow you to edit or delete certain files.
#1437 [12:09] <|Kiikun|Janus|> oh MAPPING
#1438 [12:09] <|Kiikun|Janus|> minecraft: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cartograph+g
#1439 [12:09] <|Kiikun|Janus|> erm..
#1440 [12:10] <langkid1> .).
#1441 [12:10] <langkid1> ._.
#1442 [12:10] <|Kiikun|Janus|> langkid1: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=minecraft+cartograph+g
#1443 [12:10] <|Kiikun|Janus|> there
#1444 [12:10] <Nilsyboy> tyteen4a03 , do you figure it out? :)
#1445 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: I might have a clue
#1446 [12:10] <Muffins> Pretty sure I am, but I went and physically deleted the java 7 folder, so that should be gone
#1447 [12:11] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ...
#1448 [12:11] <langkid1> :( it's a RAR
#1449 [12:11] * |Kiikun|Janus| facepalms
#1449 [12:11] * langkid1 facepalms
#1449 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> |Kiikun|Janus|: Do you know how to detect problems about minecraft.net connection problems?
#1450 [12:11] <|Kiikun|Janus|> tyteen4a03: 'cant connect'?
#1451 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> to minecraft.net, in launcher
#1452 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> time correct, no firewalls whatsoever, hosts cleared
#1453 [12:12] <|Kiikun|Janus|> firewall, hosts, java 7, ! in win username
#1454 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> xales told me about CA certs and wireshark
#1455 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> ohhh
#1456 [12:12] <Muffins> now, this fileshould be u29.....
#1457 [12:12] * |Kiikun|Janus| doesnt know about certs <.<
#1457 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> xales do :P
#1458 [12:12] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Muffins: stop deleting the files manually x.x
#1459 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: Does your usename have any special characters in it?
#1460 [12:13] <xales> tyteen4a03: just make sure Windows is up to date, for CA certs
#1461 [12:13] <Nilsyboy> no, only: Nilsyboy1994
#1462 [12:13] <Nilsyboy> Big "N"
#1463 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> oops
#1464 [12:13] <xales> Nilsyboy: Your Windows username?
#1465 [12:13] <Muffins> ok.
#1466 [12:13] <WugBot> xales: (mb/support) If you paid with a credit card (via moneybookers) and money has cleared your account but your account status has not been updated, you may need to contact MoneyBookers support.
#1467 [12:13] <WugBot> xales: (mb/support) MoneyBookers support can be reached at us-service@moneybookers.com (Make sure to include as much information as possible)
#1468 [12:13] <xales> WugBot: ...what
#1469 [12:13] * |Kiikun|Janus| smacks wugbot
#1469 [12:13] <TheNoodle> lol
#1470 [12:13] <Muffins> doesnt really work either way.
#1471 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> WugBot is derp like that
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#1473 [12:14] <Nilsyboy> Wugbot !!! i did pay with that card, yes!
#1474 [12:14] <xales> Nilsyboy: Wugbot is not talking to you
#1475 [12:14] <xales> Ignore it
#1476 [12:14] <Nilsyboy> okey...
#1477 [12:14] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Nilsyboy: ignore wugbot. thats for a different problem
#1478 [12:14] <Nilsyboy> i see ;) so what do i have to do?
#1479 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: any special characters in your windows username?
#1480 [12:15] <WugBot> tyteen4a03: (mb/support) If you paid with a credit card (via moneybookers) and money has cleared your account but your account status has not been updated, you may need to contact MoneyBookers support.
#1481 [12:15] <WugBot> tyteen4a03: (mb/support) MoneyBookers support can be reached at us-service@moneybookers.com (Make sure to include as much information as possible)
#1482 [12:15] * xales kicked WugBot from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ugBot :WugBot)
#1483 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> I think windows username was triggering that
#1484 [12:15] <Nilsyboy> windows username? to log on my computer? :P
#1485 [12:15] <xales> Wug[Hyperspace]: Your bot is a moron
#1486 [12:15] <xales> Nilsyboy: Yes
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#1488 [12:16] <Nilsyboy> if you mean when i start my computer, where i log in, then my username is: Nils Petter!
#1489 [12:16] <tyteen4a03> kiikun: nope
#1490 [12:16] <xales> Nilsyboy: With the !?
#1491 [12:16] <Nilsyboy> "Nils Petter!"
#1492 [12:16] <Nilsyboy> yes
#1493 [12:16] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: THAT's the problem
#1494 [12:16] <xales> Nilsyboy: That's the problem
#1495 [12:16] <tyteen4a03> ??> Nilsyboy win/!
#1496 [12:16] <VoxelHead> Nilsyboy: (win/!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
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#1498 [12:16] <VoxelHead> Nilsyboy: (win/!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#1499 [12:16] <Nilsyboy> SERIOUS? :
#1500 [12:16] <tyteen4a03> I feel so stupid right now...
#1501 [12:17] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: Yes, the ! symbol tends to break things
#1502 [12:17] <Doublehalf> Talk about an interesting bug source....lol
#1503 [12:17] <Doublehalf> Just because of some windows username
#1504 [12:17] <Nilsyboy> OMG, this little shitty sign can destroy that much! :S
#1505 [12:17] <tyteen4a03> But well, I did make you uninstall your excessive anti-viruses
#1506 [12:17] <tyteen4a03> now go get Avast ;)
#1507 [12:18] <Muffins> now, it says I have the latest java...
#1508 [12:18] <Nilsyboy> should i just change my windows username first?:)
#1509 [12:18] <Doublehalf> hmm, maybe I should try to get the latest java aswell :P
#1510 [12:18] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: I don't think it will help
#1511 [12:18] <tyteen4a03> You can create another account though
#1512 [12:18] <Nilsyboy> what do i have to do for playing the game then? :P
#1513 [12:18] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: Either apply the workaround, or create a new Windows account
#1514 [12:19] <Nilsyboy> pay AGAIN?
#1515 [12:19] <xales> Nilsyboy: A Windows account, not a Minecraft account
#1516 [12:19] <xales> There's also the workaround that was already mentioned
#1517 [12:19] <Nilsyboy> so it would not help to change my excisting account?
#1518 [12:19] <Nilsyboy> windows?
#1519 [12:19] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: No, it will not
#1520 [12:20] <Nilsyboy> okay, so i have to have 2 windows accounts? :P
#1521 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> windows Y U ALLOW ! IN USERNAMES
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#1523 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: I'd recommend you to just switch over to the new account, if MC's all you have
#1524 [12:20] <xales> Nilsyboy: Again, that, or you can use the workaround
#1525 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> or apply the patch if you are feeling lazy
#1526 [12:20] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Nilsyboy: control pannel > users
#1527 [12:20] * |Kiikun|Janus| goes!
#1527 [12:21] <Nilsyboy> done, should i now add a new one? :)
#1528 [12:21] <Nilsyboy> im on the "user" function now
#1529 [12:21] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: Yes
#1530 [12:22] <tyteen4a03> xales: If I create a wiki for helpers, listing all problems and solutions for helpers' use, would you be interested to contribute?
#1531 [12:22] <Nilsyboy> "nilsyboy94" would work, right?
#1532 [12:22] <tyteen4a03> Yes, anything without a special character
#1533 [12:23] <Nilsyboy> GOOD, now i REALLY hope this will work! :P
#1534 [12:23] <xales> tyteen4a03: We already have something like that, or at least, that was the idea
#1535 [12:23] <xales> tyteen4a03: minecraftirc.com
#1536 [12:24] <xales> .net, rather
#1537 [12:25] <tyteen4a03> xales: but a forum's not the same as a wiki... you can't edit somebody else's posts in a forum to make it better
#1538 [12:25] <xales> tyteen4a03: People with voice can
#1539 [12:25] <xales> or, if they signed up and bothered Scott
#1540 [12:25] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :3
#1541 [12:25] <|Kiikun|Janus|> voice = moderator :D
#1542 [12:26] <xales> tyteen4a03: you could also just ask for edit permission, which is probably the same as it would be on the wiki
#1543 [12:26] <Nilsyboy> OMFG! :D IT WORKS!!! THANKS ALOOOT!! I would never EVER have figured this out on my own :P
#1544 [12:26] <tyteen4a03> well, I don't have voice and the registeration form tells me that my password's "not complex enough"
#1545 [12:26] <tyteen4a03> meh, I will try again
#1546 [12:26] <xales> tyteen4a03: I think Scott has it requiring a symbol, upper and lower
#1547 [12:26] <Doublehalf> And yet another happy customer :D
#1548 [12:26] <xales> ._.
#1549 [12:26] <Nilsyboy> YES OMG!!! FINALLY!
#1550 [12:27] <TheNoodle> lol
#1551 [12:27] <Nilsyboy> <3
#1552 [12:27] <Doublehalf> lol
#1553 [12:27] <tyteen4a03> why?
#1554 [12:27] <tyteen4a03> that's overkill...
#1555 [12:27] <xales> tyteen4a03: Ask Scott
#1556 [12:27] <xales> pretty much
#1557 [12:27] * xales <3 correct horse battery staple
#1557 [12:27] <|Kiikun|Janus|> xales: ditto
#1558 [12:28] <Doublehalf> Could I bother someone with another problem?
#1559 [12:28] <xales> for that site I just put an ! on the end
#1560 [12:28] <xales> :x
#1561 [12:28] * |Kiikun|Janus| solves 'must have symols!!!' by shiftspamming a few numbers
#1561 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> meh, I'd prefer a wiki for version control and diffs...
#1562 [12:28] <xales> lol
#1563 [12:28] <xales> Doublehalf: sure
#1564 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> but.. whatever
#1565 [12:29] <xales> tyteen4a03: if it's a wiki I would enforce mercurial upon you
#1566 [12:29] <xales> :D
#1567 [12:29] <Doublehalf> My problem is...every time I try to run the craftbukkit.jar, it doesn't open. Nothing's happening
#1568 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> hg?
#1569 [12:29] <xales> tyteen4a03: yes
#1570 [12:29] <xales> Doublehalf: #bukkit would be a better place to ask
#1571 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> for what
#1572 [12:29] <xales> tyteen4a03: the wiki
#1573 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> which part...?
#1574 [12:29] <Doublehalf> Oh of course xD
#1575 [12:29] <xales> editing stuff
#1576 [12:29] <Doublehalf> Didn't realize I just sort of converted :P
#1577 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> uh... editing code?
#1578 [12:29] <xales> having web-based editing is dumb, IMO
#1579 [12:30] <tyteen4a03> uh, where do you want to use hg in then... which part of the wiki?
#1580 [12:30] <Doublehalf> Thanks and have a nice day :)
#1581 [12:30] <xales> at least, for a wiki where the editors are technically competant
#1582 [12:30] <xales> because on, say, MediaWiki
#1583 [12:30] <xales> the behavior is undefined if I make a change while you are editing
#1584 [12:30] <xales> usually my changes overwrite yours
#1585 [12:30] <tyteen4a03> uh, it's on my webhosting account so I don't think we'd get mercurial support
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#1587 [12:31] <tyteen4a03> I think there's an extension to prevent that...
#1588 [12:31] <tyteen4a03> I think there's an extension to prevent that...
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#1590 [12:31] <xales> tyteen4a03: I can host it
#1591 [12:31] <tyteen4a03> xales: good :D
#1592 [12:31] <Nilsyboy> Now i'm going to play :D for the first time!
#1593 [12:32] <Nilsyboy> see you later :D
#1594 [12:32] <xales> tyteen4a03: Creole or Markdown or something else
#1595 [12:32] <Nilsyboy> just one question;) do you supports work all night too?
#1596 [12:32] <tyteen4a03> xales: they are mediawiki alternatives?
#1597 [12:32] <xales> Nilsyboy: All of us are volunteers, we are around when we have time to be
#1598 [12:33] <xales> tyteen4a03: Nope, they are markup languages
#1599 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> oh
#1600 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> whatever you say :P
#1601 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: I provide a lot of night supports, mainly from 2AM to 10PM
#1602 [12:33] <xales> tyteen4a03: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markdown http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creole_(markup)
#1603 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> I mean, 10AM
#1604 [12:33] <xales> also, timezones ._.
#1605 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> due to my timezone
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#1607 [12:34] <Nilsyboy> so you all work volunteer? you don't get paid?
#1608 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> no
#1609 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> xales: whatever language is fine
#1610 [12:35] <Nilsyboy> Really??? CREDS to you guys!! which spends your freetime on helping others!
#1611 [12:35] <tyteen4a03> we learn too :)
#1612 [12:37] <Nilsyboy> yes, but i guess it takes alot of time, helping others through the day ;) ?
#1613 [12:37] <tyteen4a03> yup, but we do it alongside coding, playing, and chatting
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#1615 [12:37] <tyteen4a03> most of the time there are only simple problems for us to tackle, but some do require experts to look at
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#1617 [12:39] <Nilsyboy> Ooh, i see :)
#1618 [12:40] <Nilsyboy> Hahah, omg.. dumb question... how do i get on to multiplayer..? add server?
#1619 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> Nilsyboy: There's a Multiplayer menu under the main menu
#1620 [12:40] <Timmany> any help here?
#1621 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> Timmany: Yes?
#1622 [12:40] <Nilsyboy> yea, i know :) but how do i find thoose servers to join?;)
#1623 [12:40] <xales> Nilsyboy: A website such as minestatus.net
#1624 [12:40] <Timmany> how long does it take for mojang to reply email
#1625 [12:41] <tyteen4a03> Timmany: depends, really
#1626 [12:41] <Timmany> i have payment issues....
#1627 [12:41] <Nilsyboy> Okay ;)
#1628 [12:41] <Timmany> n its been 2 days
#1629 [12:41] <xales> Timmany: Email help@mojang.com if you haven't already
#1630 [12:41] <tyteen4a03> Timmany: it sometimes take that long
#1631 [12:41] <tyteen4a03> I told her to do that
#1632 [12:42] <Timmany> i email them twice alrdy lolz
#1633 [12:42] <Timmany> How long do they check their moneybookers?
#1634 [12:43] <Timmany> 2 days money is gone n cant be cancel... kinda worry...
#1635 [12:43] <Nilsyboy> is it possible to make your own server? in case i want to do that later? ;)
#1636 [12:43] <xales> Timmany: You have to contact MoneyBookers, not Mojang, then
#1637 [12:43] <xales> :mb/support
#1638 [12:43] <WugBot> mb/support: If you paid with a credit card (via moneybookers) and money has cleared your account but your account status has not been updated, you may need to contact MoneyBookers support.
#1639 [12:43] <WugBot> mb/support: MoneyBookers support can be reached at us-service@moneybookers.com (Make sure to include as much information as possible)
#1640 [12:43] <Timmany> moneybookers shows the payment is processed already
#1641 [12:44] <xales> Timmany: Yes, you have to contact MoneyBookers about the problem
#1642 [12:44] <Timmany> sigh... both sites wouldn reply my email...
#1643 [12:45] <xales> Timmany: You have to be patient, it might take a while. MoneyBookers should reply faster
#1644 [12:45] <Timmany> 2 days already... cant be tha long...
#1645 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> You're not the only person to email them.
#1646 [12:49] <Timmany> yea i shoulda use paypal...
#1647 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> Timmany: But since the payment already went through, all you can do is wait
#1648 [12:50] * tyteen4a03 waves to GreyVulpine
#1648 [12:50] <Timmany> I guess thas all I can do now...
#1649 [12:50] <Timmany> thx alot guys
#1650 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> mnp
#1651 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> np
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#1656 [12:58] <sugoi> 1. is the xbla demo downloadable now? 2. will the full xbla version be able to connect to pc run mc servers (or can even the demo do this)? or will xbla be multiplayer only with networked xbox's?
#1657 [12:58] <sugoi> is the demo multiplayer to this extent?
#1658 [13:00] <xales> sugoi: We don't know
#1659 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> sugoi: 1. Don't think so, 2. It could happen, as a xbox would have a stable internet (at least better than the mobile phones)
#1660 [13:06] <TheNoodle> It would also have the proccessing power to handle things like tnt, since this will almost never make it into the mobile version.
#1661 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> a LAN server would be cool
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#1667 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> blarg
#1668 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> minecraft_guest03709 - test.
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#1671 [13:26] <Guest22762> how can i update my drivers
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#1673 [13:27] <tyteen4a03> Guest22762: Windows?
#1674 [13:28] <Guest22762> yes
#1675 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> ??> Guest22762 win/dxdiag
#1676 [13:28] <VoxelHead> Guest22762: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1677 [13:28] <VoxelHead> Guest22762: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1678 [13:30] <Guest22762> where do i press these keys
#1679 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> On your keyboard. The Windows key is typically found between the ctrl and alt keys. The R key is in the same place it always is
#1680 [13:33] <Guest22762> its now got me on this website and i don't know what to do
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#1682 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> Read the rest of the instructions
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#1687 [13:37] <Guest22762> now what do i do
#1688 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> Have you pressed the "Save all information" button, saved the text document to your desktop, opened it up, copied everything to www.pastebin.com, and submitted it?
#1689 [13:39] <tyteen4a03> I need to watch the chat more closely
#1690 [13:39] <Guest22762> no i havn't copied it
#1691 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> Guest22762: Copy the content you just saved, and head to pastebin.com. Copy it in, then press Submit at the bottom.
#1692 [13:40] <calatalee> I installed Single Player Commands not too lang ago, and it has worked well all the time. Until today, when I clicked "Install" in the Mod Intaller (don't really know why). When I try to open a world or joina a server, it crashes. What to do?
#1693 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> After that, it should bring you to a new page, and give the address to us
#1694 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> calatalee: forceupdate
#1695 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> We don't really help with mods here. Ensure that you have the latest version of modloader and SPC
#1696 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> If you have an older version of ML and SPC, and installed it on a newer version of minecraft, it won't be compatible
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#1698 [13:43] <FatDemon> can anyone help me with driver issues when launching minecraft?
#1699 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#1700 [13:43] <FatDemon> XP
#1701 [13:44] <FatDemon> do i just copy the error code?
#1702 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a dxdiag? Will show us more information about your system.
#1703 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> ??> FatDemon win/dxdiag
#1704 [13:44] <VoxelHead> FatDemon: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1705 [13:44] <VoxelHead> FatDemon: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1706 [13:45] <FatDemon> k doing it right now
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#1708 [13:45] <FatDemon> will any of my security info be release?
#1709 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1710 [13:45] <FatDemon> k
#1711 [13:45] <FatDemon> loading pastebin
#1712 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> People give us dxdiags all the time, http://pastebin.com/tA8X5Pmh - http://pastebin.com/Cc0NwQhK - http://pastebin.com/B35YRE98...
#1713 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Other than the computer name, there's no personifiable information in it.
#1714 [13:46] <pa> when i enter the Nether, I lose all my items (including a diamond pick-axe!). Is there a glitch or am i doing something wrong?
#1715 [13:46] <FatDemon> http://pastebin.com/em2q91E2
#1716 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> pa - In single player, or multi?
#1717 [13:47] <pa> single player
#1718 [13:47] <FatDemon> there sent in my pastebin thing
#1719 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Don't know then. It shouldn't take away your items, pa
#1720 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> FatDemon - One moment please.
#1721 [13:47] <FatDemon> k
#1722 [13:48] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: pc name, and username in paths
#1723 [13:48] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1723 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> 768 megs of RAM, and an ATI RAGE card. Hmm.
#1724 [13:48] <FatDemon> what?
#1725 [13:48] <FatDemon> good of bad?
#1726 [13:48] <FatDemon> *or
#1727 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> You have less than the recommended amount of RAM needed for minecraft, and a video card that's quite outdated. Give me a minute to see if it can be salvaged at all..
#1728 [13:49] <langkid1> ^
#1729 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, ATI's site has the latest drivers for your card, from 2001. I don't believe that card has any updated drivers for it than what you're currently using
#1730 [13:51] <FatDemon> hmm
#1731 [13:51] <FatDemon> so this comp cant play minecraft lol
#1732 [13:51] <FatDemon> ?
#1733 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Most likely not.
#1734 [13:52] <FatDemon> XD
#1735 [13:52] <FatDemon> well it is my dads work comp so idc
#1736 [13:52] <FatDemon> ima switch back to my old comp running linux
#1737 [13:52] <FatDemon> thanksfor your help
#1738 [13:56] <calatalee> I'm pretty sure I have the laest versions of mod installer and SPC now. Still doesn't work..
#1739 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Try a force update through the launcher's options menu, or go into .minecraft/ and delete everything but the saves folder.
#1740 [13:58] <calatalee> forcing
#1741 [13:59] <calatalee> Shall i click "Done"?
#1742 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Yes, then log in
#1743 [13:59] <calatalee> It says "Will force!"
#1744 [13:59] <calatalee> Ok
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#1746 [14:01] <calatalee> It worked! Thank you so much :D
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#1749 [14:02] <mib_leydkm> the game says i have bad video card drivers
#1750 [14:03] <mib_leydkm> what do i do
#1751 [14:03] <bernard> hey can i play singleplayer without paying any money
#1752 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Nope
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#1754 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_leydkm - Update your video drivers
#1755 [14:03] <mib_leydkm> how
#1756 [14:03] <bernard> i cant
#1757 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> bernard - No, you can't
#1758 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_leydkm - What operating system are you on? Windows? MacOS? Linux? AmigaOS?
#1759 [14:04] <mib_leydkm> windows
#1760 [14:04] <bernard> oh well i paid for it and it wont let me play
#1761 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> bernard - And what happens when you try?
#1762 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> mib_leydkm - Could you give us a dxdiag? Will show us more information about your system, including what video card you have.
#1763 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Follow VoxelHead's instructions, mib_leydkm.
#1764 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_leydkm win/dxdiag
#1765 [14:04] <VoxelHead> mib_leydkm: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1766 [14:04] <VoxelHead> mib_leydkm: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1767 [14:05] <EasyToType> Issue: Yesterday: Minecraft works fine. Today: Minecraft BSODs after updating. Where: Downloadable version and Website version.Mods: none. Steps taken: rm -f -r .minecraft, redownloading minecraft jar
#1768 [14:05] <EasyToType> Error output: Exception in thread "Minecraft main thread" java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
#1769 [14:05] <mib_leydkm> ok
#1770 [14:05] <EasyToType> Also reinstalled java
#1771 [14:05] <mib_leydkm> ok
#1772 [14:05] <mib_leydkm> ok
#1773 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> EasyToType - Could i get the full error in pastebin.com?
#1774 [14:06] <EasyToType> http://pastebin.com/h3BH8F32
#1775 [14:06] <bernard> at the home screen, i click singleplayer and it says java update needed but i alredy have java
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#1777 [14:07] <TheNoodle> bernard, what is your minecraft username?
#1778 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Ah, update your lwjgl, EasyToType. instructions here: http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
#1779 [14:07] <bernard> snake_eyes8032
#1780 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> EasyToType - Use lwjgl 2.7.1, do not use 2.8
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#1782 [14:08] <EasyToType> GreyVulpine: Okay I'll give it a shot, thanks.
#1783 [14:08] <TheNoodle> bernard, are you sure?
#1784 [14:08] <bernard> yes
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#1786 [14:08] <bernard> why
#1787 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> !paid snake_eyes8032
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#1789 [14:09] <sugarlanmer> hi iam running a smp server on HARD but there are not many mobs spawning ( bukkit )
#1790 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Mojang has not received confirmation of payment. I'd call up your bank or credit card to find out why
#1791 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> sugarlanmer - Bukkit questions go to #bukkit
#1792 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> /join #bukkit
#1793 [14:10] <bernard> why does aubot say i have not paid for it
#1794 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Because Aubot queries the Mojang database of who has paid for Minecraft, and it doesn't show that you have.
#1795 [14:10] <H2O2finger> Hello, Im having a problem using optifine on the weekly updates for minecraft
#1796 [14:10] <EasyToType> Any easy place to get lwjgl 2.7.1 w/o needing to compile it?
#1797 [14:10] <bernard> i did it took money out of my account
#1798 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> EasyToType - Yes, it should be on the website
#1799 [14:11] <bernard> !!!!!
#1800 [14:11] <mib_leydkm> what do i do after pasting it in the pastebin
#1801 [14:11] <EasyToType> GreyVulpine: Thanks
#1802 [14:12] <bernard> hello?
#1803 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> EasyToType - http://sourceforge.net/projects/java-game-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.7.1/
#1804 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> EasyToType - Grab the lwjgl2.7.1.zip
#1805 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> ??> bernard payment
#1806 [14:12] <VoxelHead> bernard: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1807 [14:12] <VoxelHead> bernard: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#1808 [14:13] <bernard> it has been 7 weeks
#1809 [14:13] <mib_leydkm> what do i do after pasting it in the pastebin
#1810 [14:13] <bernard> :(
#1811 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_leydkm - Submit it, then give us the URL
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#1813 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> bernard - And you waited this long?
#1814 [14:13] <mib_leydkm> whats the url
#1815 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_leydkm - The http:// address
#1816 [14:13] <bernard> yes i really want to play singleplayer
#1817 [14:13] <bernard> :(
#1818 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> bernard - Somehow, I don't believe you.
#1819 [14:14] <mib_leydkm> what
#1820 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> mib_leydkm - What is the new http:// address after you pressed submit?
#1821 [14:14] <bernard> what?? i love minecraft but it wont let me play
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#1823 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> bernard - Then pay for minecraft
#1824 [14:15] <bernard> please belive me!
#1825 [14:15] <bernard> i did!
#1826 [14:15] <tyteen4a03> We only believe in official records
#1827 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Nobody waits 7 weeks after paying to file a complaint.
#1828 [14:15] <bernard> i have been filing complaints every day
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#1830 [14:15] <TheNoodle> And the asks for java support instead of complaining about the lack of a premium account.
#1831 [14:16] <H2O2finger> Hello, im having a problem getting optifine to work with the weekly minecraft updates
#1832 [14:16] <bernard> but no one can figure it out
#1833 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> H2O2finger - We don't exactly support mods here. Ask in the forum thread where you got optifine
#1834 [14:16] <ghostofchristmaspast> offline can not update
#1835 [14:16] <mib_leydkm> where would i find the address
#1836 [14:16] <H2O2finger> alright, thank you
#1837 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_leydkm - How did you get to http://www.pastebin.com in the first place?
#1838 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> ghostofchristmaspast - Did you pay for minecraft?
#1839 [14:17] <sugoi> bernard: did you get an email receipt of your purchase?
#1840 [14:17] <ghostofchristmaspast> my computer crashes after 10 or 5 min of playing mc
#1841 [14:17] <ghostofchristmaspast> please help me
#1842 [14:17] <bernard> yes
#1843 [14:17] <mib_leydkm> by your istructions
#1844 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_leydkm - Do you see a http://www.pastebin.com address at the top of your browser?
#1845 [14:17] <sugoi> ghostofchristmaspast: i had that issue until i upgraded my video card driver
#1846 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> ghostofchristmaspast - Do you get any error reports? Any files named hs_err_pid where you have the launcher?
#1847 [14:17] <ghostofchristmaspast> now how long do u play
#1848 [14:17] <mib_leydkm> yes
#1849 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_leydkm - what is the http://www.pastebin... address now, that you've pressed submit?
#1850 [14:18] <sugoi> bernard: in case you forgot your username, you can use that same email here:http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#1851 [14:18] <sugoi> it'll send your username to your email
#1852 [14:18] <sugoi> ghostofchristmaspast: hours and hours :)
#1853 [14:18] <EasyToType> GreyVulpine: Removed the wrong version of lwjgl and installed 2.7.1, removed .minecraft, same issue : /
#1854 [14:18] <mib_leydkm> http://pastebin.com/6ThJXjeM
#1855 [14:18] <ghostofchristmaspast> GreyVulpine my computer just turns off
#1856 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> Oh fun
#1857 [14:19] <sugoi> ghostofchristmaspast: .... haha that was not my issue, mc would crash
#1858 [14:19] <sugoi> ghostofchristmaspast: overheating?
#1859 [14:19] <mib_leydkm> http://pastebin.com/6ThJXjeM is what it says
#1860 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> EasyToType - Wait, you removed .minecraft after installing 2.7.1?
#1861 [14:19] <EasyToType> ghostofchristmaspast: That kind of thing is usually overheating or a power issue.
#1862 [14:19] <EasyToType> GreyVulpine: Yes
#1863 [14:20] <EasyToType> Did I derp?
#1864 [14:20] <EasyToType> I uninstalled lwjgl via synaptic, then installed 2.7.1 via .deb
#1865 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> EasyToType - Yeah. Minecraft downloads its own lwjgl files with a new install. It uses 2.4.2
#1866 [14:20] <ghostofchristmaspast> well do you think you can fix how long i play
#1867 [14:21] <mib_leydkm> GreyVulpine it was http://pastebin.com/6ThJXjeM
#1868 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> You need to replace .minecraft's own lwjgl files, found in the .minecraft/bin and bin/natives folders
#1869 [14:21] <EasyToType> GreyVulpine: aaaaah I feel silly now. So just get the zip version of lwjgl and drop it in .minecraft?
#1870 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> EasyToType - Unzipping the files into the respective directories, yes.
#1871 [14:21] <EasyToType> okay,thanks
#1872 [14:21] <mib_leydkm> GreyVulpine it was http://pastebin.com/6ThJXjeM
#1873 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_leydkm - I heard you the first time, please, allow me a little time to read over it
#1874 [14:22] <ghostofchristmaspast> maybe i can update my vid player
#1875 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> mib_leydkm - Seems like an old system. A gigabyte of RAM, plus an old integrated intel video chipset. You may have some luck playing minecraft by following these instructions: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#1876 [14:24] <EasyToType> GreyVulpine: Worked! Awesome. Thanks so much!
#1877 [14:24] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1877 [14:25] <ghostofchristmaspast> do i need a better java or what
#1878 [14:25] <mib_leydkm> thanks
#1879 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> ghostofchristmaspast - Have you tried a complete uninstall and reinstall of java?
#1880 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you're installing the latest java 6, update 30.
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#1882 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> :j
#1883 [14:26] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#1884 [14:26] <ghostofchristmaspast> ya i have the latest java
#1885 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> ghostofchristmaspast - If that doesn't work, look into updating your video drivers.
#1886 [14:26] <ghostofchristmaspast> ok
#1887 [14:26] <ghostofchristmaspast> let me try the java first
#1888 [14:29] <mib_leydkm> no it didn't work
#1889 [14:29] <ghostofchristmaspast> how do i update my video drivers
#1890 [14:30] <ghostofchristmaspast> o and what is the beast computer you can get
#1891 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> Depends on what operating system you're on, and what video card you have installed in the system
#1892 [14:31] <ghostofchristmaspast> idk
#1893 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Let's start with, what operating system you're on. Windows? MacOS? Linux? AmigaOS? OS/2 Warp?
#1894 [14:32] <ghostofchristmaspast> i just installed java
#1895 [14:32] <ghostofchristmaspast> now what do i do
#1896 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Try minecraft?
#1897 [14:33] <ghostofchristmaspast> ok
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#1899 [14:35] <wannabemac> Hello.
#1900 [14:35] <ghostofchristmaspast> bye it works
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#1902 [14:36] <wannabemac> Hello
#1903 [14:37] <EasyToType> Just wanted to say thanks again. Running beautifully!
#1904 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Glad we could help
#1905 [14:39] <wannabemac> I am back
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#1907 [14:45] <wannabemac> Grey?
#1908 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#1909 [14:46] <wannabemac> I am not quite familiar with IRC, how is it set up so that someone cant use your nickname to gain access administrative commands
#1910 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv help register
#1911 [14:47] <wannabemac> aww
#1912 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv help set enforce
#1913 [14:51] <TheNoodle> wannabemac, if the commands are provided by esper services they need to log into your nickserv account, not just use your nick.
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#1915 [14:54] <geraldbrent> Reinstalling xchat, brb! Wish me luck!
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#1918 [15:00] <gretchen> hey guys can you help me my minecraft stopped working just now :(
#1919 [15:00] <wannabemac> What happens?
#1920 [15:02] <gretchen> hold on to i check
#1921 [15:02] <wannabemac> Okay
#1922 [15:03] <gretchen> it says
#1923 [15:03] <gretchen> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem.
#1924 [15:03] <wannabemac> Okay, Are you able to login to minecraft and access the main menu without it crashing?
#1925 [15:04] <wannabemac> Wait, scratch that.
#1926 [15:04] <wannabemac> Try force updating.
#1927 [15:04] <wannabemac> On the login screen hit options next to the password bar and press force update on the box that comes up. Then log in.
#1928 [15:04] <wannabemac> On the login screen hit options next to the password bar and press force update on the box that comes up. Then log in.
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#1930 [15:05] <gretchen> ok ill try
#1931 [15:06] <gretchen> im might of hit open GL mode or something in the minecraft options would that effect it?
#1932 [15:06] <wannabemac> It shouldnt. Did you force update?
#1933 [15:07] <gretchen> yes :)
#1934 [15:07] <gretchen> its says its downloading packages
#1935 [15:08] <gretchen> What does GL mode mean anyways?
#1936 [15:08] <wannabemac> It is for graphics.
#1937 [15:09] <wannabemac> It will improve performance depending on your graphics card.
#1938 [15:09] <gretchen> oh okay :)
#1939 [15:09] <gretchen> does is lessen lag
#1940 [15:09] <wannabemac> Depends on your graphics card.
#1941 [15:10] <wannabemac> Is it working?
#1942 [15:10] <gretchen> k
#1943 [15:11] <gretchen> its still downloading packages
#1944 [15:11] <wannabemac> Do you have a slow internet connection?
#1945 [15:11] <WugBot> wannabemac: (mb/support) If you paid with a credit card (via moneybookers) and money has cleared your account but your account status has not been updated, you may need to contact MoneyBookers support.
#1946 [15:11] <WugBot> wannabemac: (mb/support) MoneyBookers support can be reached at us-service@moneybookers.com (Make sure to include as much information as possible)
#1947 [15:11] <wannabemac> ?
#1948 [15:11] <wannabemac> What was that?
#1949 [15:11] <wannabemac> Grey what was that?
#1950 [15:12] <gretchen> i dont really have a slow internet connections
#1951 [15:12] <gretchen> Im using minecraft in the download
#1952 [15:13] <wannabemac> Oh.
#1953 [15:13] <wannabemac> You need to stop playing minecraft and close it
#1954 [15:14] <gretchen> why?
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#1958 [15:14] <gretchen> ok the packages have finished downloading
#1959 [15:14] <wannabemac> Okay, That should fix you crashing.
#1960 [15:14] <gretchen> and it still isnt working
#1961 [15:14] <gretchen> It crashed again RAAAAAAAAWRRRRRRRRRRR
#1962 [15:14] <wannabemac> Could you please close minecraft and then force update again?
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#1964 [15:15] <gretchen> will i do it in a browser on in the download?
#1965 [15:15] <wannabemac> Opening minecraft, hit options before you log in, click force update, then log in.
#1966 [15:16] <gretchen> ok
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#1968 [15:17] <gretchen> ok the packages are downloading quicker now
#1969 [15:17] <wannabemac> Okay.
#1970 [15:17] <gretchen> IT CRASHED AGAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN >:(
#1971 [15:18] <wannabemac> It Did?
#1972 [15:18] <Scott> wannabemac: are you a hackintosh?
#1973 [15:18] <wannabemac> Had it finished downloading?
#1974 [15:18] <wannabemac> Why Scot
#1975 [15:18] <wannabemac> oh
#1976 [15:18] <wannabemac> Just realized why you asked.
#1977 [15:18] <gretchen> yes
#1978 [15:18] <wannabemac> Scott.
#1979 [15:18] <wannabemac> I am not quite sure what could be wrong, even after force updating, gretchen still crashes after logging into minecraft.
#1980 [15:19] <gretchen> Yes it finished downloading then the screen went black then it crashedd :(
#1981 [15:19] <gretchen> i think i hit GL mode or somthing then the minecraft downloaded closed down
#1982 [15:19] <wannabemac> Okay.
#1983 [15:20] <wannabemac> Let me help you change that.
#1984 [15:20] <wannabemac> What operating system are you on?
#1985 [15:20] <gretchen> like i was experimenting to try to make my lag go down
#1986 [15:20] <gretchen> im on windows vista
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#1988 [15:20] <wannabemac> Okay hit the windows pearl on the keyboard and r at the same time.
#1989 [15:21] <wannabemac> type in the box %appdata%
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#1991 [15:21] <wannabemac> Did you do that?
#1992 [15:21] <gretchen> yes
#1993 [15:22] <wannabemac> Select the .minecraft folder./
#1994 [15:22] <gretchen> okay
#1995 [15:22] <wannabemac> open the options.txt file
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#1997 [15:23] <gretchen> Okayy
#1998 [15:23] <wannabemac> do you see where it says advancedopengl:true
#1999 [15:24] <gretchen> yes
#2000 [15:24] <wannabemac> change true to say false
#2001 [15:24] <gretchen> okay :)
#2002 [15:24] <wannabemac> once you are done save the file and run minecraft
#2003 [15:25] <wannabemac> It should work.
#2004 [15:26] <gretchen> you know where it says: view distance: 3
#2005 [15:26] <wannabemac> yes.
#2006 [15:26] <gretchen> can i change it to 1 so it will lag less?? :D
#2007 [15:26] <wannabemac> 1 is far.
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#2009 [15:26] <gretchen> oh so how do i set it to the smallest?
#2010 [15:26] <wannabemac> lol
#2011 [15:26] <wannabemac> 4
#2012 [15:26] <gretchen> ok xD
#2013 [15:27] <wannabemac> Tell me what happens after you try running minecraft.
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#2016 [15:29] <gretchen> i hit force update then i hit login
#2017 [15:29] <Untouchablekill> Hey, I made a new email address for professional reasons and I would like to change my original minecraft accounts email address to the new one, is there a way I can go about accomplishing this?
#2018 [15:29] <wannabemac> One moment.
#2019 [15:29] <wannabemac> Gretchen, did minecraft run and not crash?
#2020 [15:30] <gretchen> i dont know its still downloading packages
#2021 [15:30] <wannabemac> Okay.
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#2023 [15:31] <Boreeas> Untouchablekill: E-mail help@mojang.com
#2024 [15:32] <Untouchablekill> Is there a certain format I should follow or do I just post my problem and ask if I can get it resolved via a change in the database?
#2025 [15:33] <Boreeas> No format that I know of
#2026 [15:33] <wannabemac> Just post your problem.
#2027 [15:33] <Boreeas> It's uncertain if they will reply or change it, though
#2028 [15:33] <wannabemac> Very true, Very true.
#2029 [15:34] <gretchen> IT CRASHEEDDDDDDDDDD
#2030 [15:34] <wannabemac> Hmm.
#2031 [15:34] <wannabemac> Okay, Try this.
#2032 [15:34] <wannabemac> hit the windows pearl and r together and type %appdata
#2033 [15:35] <wannabemac> my bad %appdata%'
#2034 [15:35] <wannabemac> damn it %appdata%
#2035 [15:35] <wannabemac> go to the .minecraft folder
#2036 [15:35] <wannabemac> now, copy your saves folder onto your desktop
#2037 [15:36] <gretchen> i cant put things onto my desktop for some reason :/ where else could i put them?
#2038 [15:36] <wannabemac> Copy your texturepacks folder and your screenshots folder to your desktop as well
#2039 [15:36] <wannabemac> Oh
#2040 [15:36] <wannabemac> Just create a folder somewhere else on your computer, you will need to access it later.
#2041 [15:37] <Boreeas> gretchen: What version of java do you use?
#2042 [15:37] <gretchen> i dunno lol
#2043 [15:38] <wannabemac> Ill let Boreeas take over, he will be better than me.
#2044 [15:38] <Boreeas> Well, I g2g though :P
#2045 [15:38] <wannabemac> Okay then Ill try my best.
#2046 [15:38] <Boreeas> Anyways, gretchen, you might need to reinstall java
#2047 [15:38] <Boreeas> ??> gretchen win/javara
#2048 [15:38] <gretchen> ok
#2049 [15:38] <VoxelHead> gretchen: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#2050 [15:38] <VoxelHead> gretchen: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software and you can download it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/javara/files/
#2051 [15:38] <Boreeas> Install that, run it, remove all java installations
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#2053 [15:39] <Boreeas> Then go to http://java.com and redownload the latest version
#2054 [15:39] <wannabemac> if that does not work I will have him delete and redownload his .minecraft competely but save texturepacks screenshots, and saves.
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#2056 [15:45] <gretchen> JavaRa opened up in winrar
#2057 [15:45] <gretchen> what do i do noww?
#2058 [15:45] <wannabemac> Honestly, I have no idea.
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#2060 [15:46] <wannabemac> Try reading the product info.
#2061 [15:46] <ghostofchristmaspast> so how do you update your video disks
#2062 [15:47] <gretchen> ok i think i removed all older versions
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#2064 [15:48] <wannabemac> Okay, Try running minecraft.
#2065 [15:48] <gretchen> but i still need to download the NEWEST version
#2066 [15:48] <wannabemac> Okay, do that first.
#2067 [15:48] <gretchen> im getting a new laptop for xmas so if this doesnt work then its no big deal :)
#2068 [15:48] <wannabemac> lol
#2069 [15:49] <gretchen> What do you want from santa claus? :D
#2070 [15:49] <wannabemac> lol
#2071 [15:49] <ghostofchristmaspast> whats the best pc you can get
#2072 [15:49] <wannabemac> 23'' monitor
#2073 [15:49] <wannabemac> ghostofchristmaspast this is minecraft help, not pc help
#2074 [15:49] <ghostofchristmaspast> i know
#2075 [15:50] <gretchen> Alien ware by dell is pretty good but it costs £999.99
#2076 [15:50] <wannabemac> i suggest building your won
#2077 [15:50] <wannabemac> own*
#2078 [15:50] <ghostofchristmaspast> fine how do you update your video disks
#2079 [15:50] <ghostofchristmaspast> it will help me with my minecraft
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#2081 [15:50] <wannabemac> video disks?
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#2083 [15:51] <ghostofchristmaspast> yes
#2084 [15:51] <mib_mb7wgw> When I load up minecraft it all works fine, then I go onto singleplayer and all my maps work except my survival mode. When I load it it takes ages to load and then when it finally loads all I get is the quickbar at the bottom and a black screen. Is there any way to fix this? I'm using Minecraft v1.0.0
#2085 [15:51] <gizmodrc> how do i find out the ip for my server?
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#2087 [15:51] <ghostofchristmaspast> my computer shuts down when i play mc for 5 or 10 min
#2088 [15:51] <wannabemac> mib_mb7wgw, your world file may be corrupted.
#2089 [15:52] <wannabemac> ?
#2090 [15:52] <gretchen> gizmodrc search the internet?
#2091 [15:52] <mib_mb7wgw> it's not
#2092 [15:52] <wannabemac> gizmodrc, is it a hosted server?
#2093 [15:52] <wannabemac> mib_mb7wgw, how do you know
#2094 [15:52] <wannabemac> ?
#2095 [15:52] <gizmodrc> its my server
#2096 [15:52] <mib_mb7wgw> no
#2097 [15:53] <mib_mb7wgw> because i went onto the appdata and there is no corrupt file
#2098 [15:53] <wannabemac> it would look normal, but the save files would not function properly.
#2099 [15:53] <wannabemac> mib_mb7wgw, Try looking at the world with McEdit.
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#2101 [15:54] <mib_mb7wgw> it loads after a while and i get a black screen then after a while my world appears but everything runs really slow
#2102 [15:54] <ghostofchristmaspast> GreyVulpine come and help us
#2103 [15:54] <wannabemac> gizmodrc, Is it a hosted server?
#2104 [15:54] <wannabemac> gizmodrc, Is it a hosted server?
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#2106 [15:54] <BradA> trying to buy minecraft for last 16hrs or so.. tried multiple credit/debit cards... everything we try now says wait 24hrs.. is there any way get the account reset? Trying to buy this as a x-mas gift for nephew in a timely fashion.
#2107 [15:54] <wannabemac> mib_mb7wgw, Try looking at it with MCedit>
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#2109 [15:54] <gizmodrc> wannabemac its my server i created it
#2110 [15:54] <nevercast> Does Mojang have a support channel?
#2111 [15:54] <nevercast> Or email?
#2112 [15:54] <mib_mb7wgw> what does that do
#2113 [15:54] <wannabemac> gizmodrc, you set the IP in the server.properties file.
#2114 [15:54] <nevercast> Never set the ip xD
#2115 [15:55] <wannabemac> It does not nevercast.
#2116 [15:55] <nevercast> D:
#2117 [15:55] <wannabemac> It just has a email.
#2118 [15:55] <gizmodrc> wannabemac ok where is that
#2119 [15:55] <nevercast> wannabemac, Do you have the email?
#2120 [15:55] <wannabemac> Go into the server folder.
#2121 [15:55] <nevercast> open server.properties
#2122 [15:55] <wannabemac> One second nevercast.
#2123 [15:55] <gretchen> POOOP
#2124 [15:55] <gretchen> ROFLOLMAOFTW
#2125 [15:55] <nevercast> gizmodrc, In server.properties, is server-ip=
#2126 [15:55] <nevercast> remove everything after the =
#2127 [15:55] <gretchen> xD
#2128 [15:56] <mib_mb7wgw> does mcedit work with v.1.0.0
#2129 [15:56] <wannabemac> go to this website nevercast http://www.minecraft.net/support
#2130 [15:56] <wannabemac> It does mib_mb7wgw.
#2131 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> MCedit does work with 1.0.0
#2132 [15:56] <mib_mb7wgw> thanks
#2133 [15:56] <wannabemac> Gretchen please do not spam.
#2134 [15:56] <gretchen> Ok sorry hehe :D
#2135 [15:56] <wannabemac> gizmodrc, do you plan on making the server on your local network or with your external ip?
#2136 [15:57] <mib_mb7wgw> where do i download mcedit
#2137 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> ?? mcedit
#2138 [15:57] <VoxelHead> mcedit: http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/download.html
#2139 [15:57] <wannabemac> BradA go to http://www.minecraft.net/support
#2140 [15:57] <nevercast> wannabemac, That thing is not so helpful. I need to actually email them
#2141 [15:57] <gizmodrc> wannabemac its for me and my freinds
#2142 [15:57] <nevercast> wannabemac, I hear about people sending them mail all the time..
#2143 [15:58] <nevercast> gizmodrc, Are your friends at your house?
#2144 [15:58] <nevercast> gizmodrc, or at their own?
#2145 [15:58] <gizmodrc> at there house not mine
#2146 [15:58] <wannabemac> it is support@mojang.com i believe.
#2147 [15:58] <nevercast> Thanks
#2148 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> It's help@mojang.com
#2149 [15:58] <wannabemac> Oops, my bad. Sorry.
#2150 [15:59] <wannabemac> gizmodrc, You will have to ask your friends.
#2151 [15:59] <gizmodrc> wannabemac ask what
#2152 [15:59] <ghostofchristmaspast> tschus
#2153 [16:00] <ghostofchristmaspast> nvm
#2154 [16:00] <gizmodrc> wannabemac ask them what
#2155 [16:00] <ghostofchristmaspast> GreyVulpine how do you update you video disks
#2156 [16:01] <wannabemac> Ask them the IP of the server.
#2157 [16:02] <gizmodrc> wannabemac how will they know its the server i created
#2158 [16:02] <wannabemac> You said it was at there house right?
#2159 [16:02] <gizmodrc> wannabemac no its mine they want to use it
#2160 [16:03] <gretchen> the Java download is taking FOREVERRRRRRRRR
#2161 [16:03] <ghostofchristmaspast> VoxelHead My computer shuts down after i play mc for a lil bit
#2162 [16:04] <gizmodrc> wannabemac no its mine they want to use it.
#2163 [16:04] <ghostofchristmaspast> look i dount have good pantience so plz answer me
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#2165 [16:05] <wannabemac> But gizmodrc, Is it at there house?
#2166 [16:05] <gizmodrc> no its at my house
#2167 [16:05] <wannabemac> Oh, I thought you said it was at theres, anyway, go to the server folder on your computer.
#2168 [16:06] <gizmodrc> it says server notbook and half a page of words
#2169 [16:06] <wannabemac> Open the server.properties file.
#2170 [16:06] <wannabemac> What folder did you make the server in?
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#2172 [16:07] <mib_mb7wgw> my world wont load on mcedit
#2173 [16:08] <wannabemac> mib_mb7wgw, As I said, it may be corrupted.
#2174 [16:08] <wannabemac> Wait, did you close minecraft first mib_mb7wgw?
#2175 [16:08] <BradA> does anyone know if greendot brand pre-paid visa cards work for purchasing minecraft?
#2176 [16:08] <mib_mb7wgw> yes
#2177 [16:08] <gizmodrc> i have a folder on the out side when i hit the start botten called server.properties
#2178 [16:08] <mib_mb7wgw> how can i tell if its corrupted
#2179 [16:08] <wannabemac> It should BradA.
#2180 [16:09] <wannabemac> gizmodrc, why is the start button called server.properties?
#2181 [16:09] <helpless> we have Java and can log in but the sreen where the game should be is just a blank box with a little red x in the top left corner
#2182 [16:09] <wannabemac> Try force updating helpless.
#2183 [16:09] <gizmodrc> start botten like the bottne to log off
#2184 [16:09] <helpless> what is that? how do I try?
#2185 [16:09] <mib_mb7wgw> how can i tell if my save is corrupted
#2186 [16:09] <wannabemac> On the minecraft login screen, select options, then hit force update and log in.
#2187 [16:10] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, wannabemac, Support@Mojang.com worked, as I got an automated reply saying that my ticket was received and I'm in a queue or something. Is help@mojang.com any different? Possibly an alias?
#2188 [16:10] <wannabemac> mib_mb7wgw, I am not sure.
#2189 [16:10] <ghostofchristmaspast> screw you guys i tryed to be pantiencd but im not
#2190 [16:10] <wannabemac> lol
#2191 [16:11] <gizmodrc> lol
#2192 [16:11] <wannabemac> gizmodrc is it a bukkit server or a vanilla server?
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#2194 [16:11] <gizmodrc> what?
#2195 [16:11] <wannabemac> Did you download the server software from minecraft.net?
#2196 [16:11] <wannabemac> Did you download the server software from minecraft.net?
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#2198 [16:11] <gizmodrc> i was on here and wugbot gave a link to it
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#2200 [16:12] <wannabemac> Okay try this website for help: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server
#2201 [16:14] <helpless> wannabemac, I don't see options in the login screen, only Home, Game, Community, Store and Profile
#2202 [16:15] <wannabemac> Oh, you are playing in browser.
#2203 [16:15] <wannabemac> Do you have java installed?
#2204 [16:15] <helpless> yes
#2205 [16:15] <wannabemac> Is it up to date?
#2206 [16:16] <gizmodrc> wannabemac i just deleted the old ine and replaced it with one from the minecraft site
#2207 [16:16] <wannabemac> the old what?
#2208 [16:16] <gizmodrc> server
#2209 [16:16] <helpless> yes, dowloaded latest this week just to use minecraft
#2210 [16:16] <wannabemac> helpless, are you allowing java to run in your browser?
#2211 [16:16] <wannabemac> Gizmodrc, I suggest starting over and going through the steps to set up the server
#2212 [16:17] <helpless> not sure, if I should be can you tell me how to allow it?
#2213 [16:17] <wannabemac> What browser are you running?
#2214 [16:17] <helpless> tell me how to check and find out
#2215 [16:18] <wannabemac> When you connect to the internet, what program do you use?
#2216 [16:18] <helpless> the blue "e"
#2217 [16:18] <wannabemac> Okay Internet Explorer, Is it up to date?
#2218 [16:18] <gizmodrc> wannabemac i looked and have most of it done
#2219 [16:19] <wannabemac> Okay gizmodrc, have you opened the ports on your router?
#2220 [16:19] <helpless> how would I know?
#2221 [16:19] <gizmodrc> open ports
#2222 [16:19] <gizmodrc> open ports?
#2223 [16:19] <wannabemac> Yes, on your router, or are you using Hamachi?
#2224 [16:20] <wannabemac> Helpless, when did you last install updates with Windows Updates?
#2225 [16:20] <gizmodrc> my routers called cisco
#2226 [16:20] <wannabemac> Okay, You need to log into your router and open the 25565 port.
#2227 [16:20] <wannabemac> Follow the steps in the guide.
#2228 [16:21] <wannabemac> Give me a minute helpless.
#2229 [16:21] <wannabemac> I am not to familiar with Internet Explorer
#2230 [16:22] <helpless> modified sept 2010, I have never updated it, but maybe that was an update from Internet Explorer, can you tell me how to just update it now?
#2231 [16:22] <wannabemac> Go to Windows Update.
#2232 [16:23] <wannabemac> ?? help
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#2234 [16:23] <VoxelHead> help: To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#2235 [16:23] <VoxelHead> help: For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#2236 [16:23] <wannabemac> ??>> faq
#2237 [16:23] <gizmodrc> i give up
#2238 [16:23] <wannabemac> gizmodrc
#2239 [16:23] <Zipmeister> Hey, if I want to make a HC server for me and few friends, do I need some server mod for it? or can I do it somehow with vanilla settings?
#2240 [16:23] <wannabemac> A HC server?
#2241 [16:23] <gizmodrc> yes
#2242 [16:23] <Zipmeister> hardcore mode
#2243 [16:24] <gizmodrc> yes?
#2244 [16:24] <wannabemac> I do not believe you can not do that on servers, try using bukkit and finding a plugin or find a a server mod
#2245 [16:25] <Zipmeister> alright
#2246 [16:25] <gizmodrc> i thoght getting a server was just give them ip and play
#2247 [16:25] <wannabemac> gizmodrc, I suggest going to youtube.com and searching how to make a minecraft server. I am not sure how to help you any further, and no its not.
#2248 [16:26] <gizmodrc> ok thanks anyway.
#2249 [16:26] <wannabemac> helpless, are you updating Internet Explorer?
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#2251 [16:30] <zippity> Hello i installed minecraft today i just got my premium account yesterday and i changed my skin and everythin i have the latest version of java but still it says cant connect to minecraft.net can someone help me here
#2252 [16:30] <wannabemac> Are you typing your username correctly?
#2253 [16:30] <zippity> yes
#2254 [16:30] <wannabemac> Your firewall maybe be blocking it.
#2255 [16:31] <zippity> i can login to the actual Minecraft.net and i added it to my firewall list of programs to allow
#2256 [16:31] <zippity> do you think my Mcaffe may be blocking it?
#2257 [16:31] <wannabemac> Yes.
#2258 [16:31] <zippity> okay let me see if i can do something about that
#2259 [16:31] <zippity> be right back
#2260 [16:31] <wannabemac> Okay.
#2261 [16:32] <wannabemac> Make sure javaw.exe has internet access
#2262 [16:32] <wannabemac> And same with minecraft.exe
#2263 [16:32] <zippity> How can i do that? sorry i might sound stupid
#2264 [16:32] <helpless> hi wannabemac, yes I am updating blue "e" , be back soon
#2265 [16:32] <wannabemac> Okay
#2266 [16:32] <wannabemac> zippity, what version of McAffee do you have?
#2267 [16:32] <zippity> uhm
#2268 [16:33] <zippity> let me check
#2269 [16:33] <wannabemac> Is it for example AntiVirus Plus?
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#2271 [16:33] <zippity> it was a trial like a Long time ago
#2272 [16:33] <wannabemac> Oh, is it still active?
#2273 [16:34] <zippity> Nope it says renew subscription
#2274 [16:34] <wannabemac> Oh.
#2275 [16:34] <wannabemac> Try turning off Windows Firewall when trying to play.
#2276 [16:34] <acecateer> it wont let me play the screen keeps going black every time i try and start a world or go into one can someone help me?
#2277 [16:35] <wannabemac> acecateer, try force updating.
#2278 [16:35] <zippity> can u walk me through how to turn off firewall
#2279 [16:35] <zippity> ?
#2280 [16:35] <wannabemac> sure
#2281 [16:35] <zippity> :)
#2282 [16:35] <acecateer> what is the force update?
#2283 [16:35] <wannabemac> It will update the minecraft files acecateer.
#2284 [16:35] <acecateer> where is it?
#2285 [16:35] <wannabemac> Wait, zippity, do you have any other firewall programs.
#2286 [16:36] <zippity> I don't think so
#2287 [16:36] <wannabemac> acecateer, on the login screen hit options, select force update, then log in.
#2288 [16:36] <wannabemac> zippity go to control panel
#2289 [16:36] <zippity> yes
#2290 [16:36] <acecateer> ok ill try
#2291 [16:36] <wannabemac> select security
#2292 [16:37] <zippity> system and security correct?
#2293 [16:37] <helpless> blue e wants me to close all programs, update may take more than one hour, blue e was last updated this week, should I close everything and get back to you (hopefully) another time, I'm thinking this update may not solve my minecraft problem, should we do it firts anyway just to rule it out?
#2294 [16:37] <wannabemac> Yes.
#2295 [16:37] <wannabemac> oh,
#2296 [16:37] <wannabemac> Helpless, try reinstalling java.
#2297 [16:37] <zippity> okay next step wannabemac :D
#2298 [16:38] <wannabemac> Internet explorer is not the problem is if was updated last week.
#2299 [16:38] <wannabemac> zippity select allow a program through windows firewall.
#2300 [16:38] <zippity> next
#2301 [16:38] <wannabemac> one second zippity.
#2302 [16:38] <acecateer> it worked thank you wannabe have a nice day :)
#2303 [16:38] <wannabemac> thanks, and you
#2304 [16:38] <zippity> okay mac :D
#2305 [16:38] <helpless> wow wannabemac, you read fast, ok I'll do it, you were so nice, patient, kind and knowlegeable, hopefully you'll be around when/if I come back, thanks for your help, bye
#2306 [16:38] <acecateer> bye
#2307 [16:39] <acecateer> ikr help
#2308 [16:39] <wannabemac> Your welcome, and thanks.
#2309 [16:39] <wannabemac> Your welcome, and thanks.
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#2312 [16:39] <wannabemac> zippity, make sure javaw has access throught firewall and same with minecraft.exe
#2313 [16:39] <imperfect> so, has anyone been having issues with mobs spawning?
#2314 [16:39] <zippity> so add minecraft.exe and javaw to the list
#2315 [16:39] <wannabemac> correct
#2316 [16:39] <wannabemac> javaw.exe
#2317 [16:39] <zippity> okay
#2318 [16:40] <wannabemac> Are they allowed through?
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#2320 [16:41] <imperfect> has anyone been having problems with mobs spawning? or know about a problem/fix? cause its starting to bug me..
#2321 [16:41] <wannabemac> Please elaborate imperfect
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#2323 [16:41] <wannabemac> zippity, did you allow them through/
#2324 [16:42] <zippity> wannabemac i just found out i downloaded 32 bit instead of 64 so letme download 64 and try logining in again and see if it is fixed
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#2326 [16:42] <imperfect> i started a new world yesterday and really like it, i had a good start, at first i couldnt find any other animals besides sheep, then found them all besides pigs, have yet to find pigs
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#2328 [16:42] <wannabemac> zippity, it will not matter, it will still word.
#2329 [16:42] <WugBot> wannabemac: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2330 [16:42] <WugBot> wannabemac: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2331 [16:42] <imperfect> ive only seen 2 zombies 1 creeper and 2 skeltons the entire game
#2332 [16:42] <Person> Hi i have a queston abou gpu and how good it is on minecraft
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#2334 [16:42] <imperfect> and both are unsuccesful, i cant find any mobs on surface or in caves.
#2335 [16:42] <wannabemac> Do you ahve it on peacefull?.
#2336 [16:43] <imperfect> its on normal/hard
#2337 [16:43] <wannabemac> do you have your difficulty on peaceful?
#2338 [16:43] <imperfect> no sir
#2339 [16:43] <wannabemac> Hmm, maybe you are just looking the wrong place xD
#2340 [16:43] <imperfect> >.> ikr? i chose the worst spot
#2341 [16:43] <imperfect> nothing spawns by me.
#2342 [16:43] <Person> imperfect
#2343 [16:43] <imperfect> yes?
#2344 [16:43] <wannabemac> Lol go exploring.
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#2346 [16:43] <imperfect> seems logical
#2347 [16:43] <Person> If like 100% no mobs spawan
#2348 [16:44] <Person> Get single player commands
#2349 [16:44] <Person> and spawn some
#2350 [16:44] <imperfect> and would that get the cycle going? or just to get some spawned?
#2351 [16:44] <mib_1kp6wk> My screen just goes black after I log-in to the game :(
#2352 [16:44] <Person> To see if mobs can even spawn
#2353 [16:45] <imperfect> ah k
#2354 [16:45] <imperfect> on it,
#2355 [16:45] <wannabemac> mib_1kp6wk, try force updating
#2356 [16:45] <mib_1kp6wk> I tried that
#2357 [16:45] <Person> Can anyone tell me if this gpu will be able to run mc?
#2358 [16:45] <imperfect> mib_1kp6wk: do what wannabemac says or try updating your drivers, i did that and mine works now.
#2359 [16:45] <zippity> Wannabemac i figured out my problem i had 32 bit download of java instead of 64 Thank you for your help!
#2360 [16:45] <wannabemac> Your welcome zippity, have a good day.
#2361 [16:46] <imperfect> mib try updating your gbu drivers
#2362 [16:46] <zippity> you to!
#2363 [16:46] <imperfect> gpu*
#2364 [16:46] <wannabemac> Update java mib_1kp6wk.
#2365 [16:46] <Person> Can anyone help?
#2366 [16:46] <wannabemac> What do you need person?
#2367 [16:46] <mib_1kp6wk> I also did that just a couple of hours ago
#2368 [16:47] <imperfect> what gpu person?
#2369 [16:47] <wannabemac> is your graphics driver up to date?
#2370 [16:47] <Person> How much fps will the radeon 6720g2 bring when fancy + far are on
#2371 [16:47] <imperfect> def update your driver for it, i did that and minecraft runs a lot better.
#2372 [16:48] <wannabemac> I have no idea Person.
#2373 [16:48] <imperfect> test it?
#2374 [16:48] <Person> Doesn't work that way
#2375 [16:48] <imperfect> yes it does :3
#2376 [16:48] <Person> i don't own the gpu
#2377 [16:48] <imperfect> ah
#2378 [16:48] <imperfect> look for reviews
#2379 [16:48] <imperfect> and see if it can run WoW at full settings
#2380 [16:48] <Person> hmm
#2381 [16:48] <imperfect> if it can our good to go
#2382 [16:49] <Person> wow takes like 3 hours to dl
#2383 [16:49] <imperfect> noo
#2384 [16:49] <imperfect> dont dl it
#2385 [16:49] <imperfect> look for reviews
#2386 [16:49] <imperfect> people always say what games they play with it and how many fps they get
#2387 [16:49] <imperfect> so if a game like WoW or MW3 get 60 fps then you should be fine
#2388 [16:49] <Person> Can anyone else give me an answer?
#2389 [16:49] <wannabemac> What is the question again?
#2390 [16:50] <Person> How much fps will the radeon 6720g2 bring when fancy + far are on
#2391 [16:50] <wannabemac> No one will be answer that.
#2392 [16:50] <imperfect> ^
#2393 [16:50] <imperfect> i tried to help
#2394 [16:50] <Person> Erm.
#2395 [16:50] <Person> No
#2396 [16:50] <wannabemac> It depends on many things.
#2397 [16:50] <imperfect> yes
#2398 [16:50] <mib_1kp6wk> I updated java and force updated minecraft
#2399 [16:50] <wannabemac> Okay.
#2400 [16:50] <mib_1kp6wk> still doesnt work
#2401 [16:50] <imperfect> mib did you try updating your drivers?
#2402 [16:51] <imperfect> that fixed the problem for me.
#2403 [16:51] <Person> Mib what gpu do you have?
#2404 [16:51] <wannabemac> mib_1kp6wk, try coping, your save folder, screenshot folder, and texturepack folder to your desktop.
#2405 [16:51] <wannabemac> Then delete the minecraft folder.
#2406 [16:51] <wannabemac> Log in to minecraft.
#2407 [16:51] <tyteen4a03> what is mib_1kp6wk's problem?
#2408 [16:51] <wannabemac> And put the save folder, screenshot folder, and texturepack folder back in.
#2409 [16:52] <tyteen4a03> ??> wannabemac win/reinst/bat
#2410 [16:52] <VoxelHead> wannabemac: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2411 [16:52] <VoxelHead> wannabemac: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#2412 [16:52] <Person> VoxelHead
#2413 [16:52] <wannabemac> Lol I am not the one who needs help
#2414 [16:52] <tyteen4a03> ?? bot
#2415 [16:52] <mib_1kp6wk> How do you update gpu?
#2416 [16:52] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#2417 [16:52] <mib_1kp6wk> i mean drivers
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#2419 [16:52] <Person> Can you help me with gp and stuff?
#2420 [16:52] <mib_1kp6wk> oops
#2421 [16:52] <tyteen4a03> wannabemac: to tell you this thing exists
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#2423 [16:52] <Person> How much fps will the radeon 6720g2 bring when fancy + far are on?
#2424 [16:52] <wannabemac> Lol.
#2425 [16:52] <tyteen4a03> ??> mib_1kp6wk win/dxdiag
#2426 [16:52] <VoxelHead> mib_1kp6wk: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2427 [16:52] <wannabemac> Thanks.
#2428 [16:52] <VoxelHead> mib_1kp6wk: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2429 [16:53] <tyteen4a03> Person: it depends on the other specs as well, but if it's quite new it's probably ok
#2430 [16:53] <Person> Well it has pretty good clock speed
#2431 [16:53] <Person> 4 gb ram
#2432 [16:53] <tyteen4a03> then it should be OK
#2433 [16:53] <Person> and refresh rate is 60
#2434 [16:53] <Person> know how many fps?
#2435 [16:53] <Person> or around
#2436 [16:54] <tyteen4a03> Person: it also depends on what the user is currently doing. I am no expert in hardware, so I guess it will be ok
#2437 [16:54] <Person> Hmm
#2438 [16:54] <wannabemac> Neither am I.
#2439 [16:54] <Person> VoxelHead How much fps will the radeon 6720g2 bring when fancy + far are on?
#2440 [16:55] <tyteen4a03> ?? bot
#2441 [16:55] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#2442 [16:55] <wannabemac> Lol
#2443 [16:55] <Person> huh?
#2444 [16:55] <Person> He's afk?
#2445 [16:55] <tyteen4a03> Person: VoxelHead's a bot
#2446 [16:55] <Person> Any human?
#2447 [16:55] <Person> lol.
#2448 [16:56] <tyteen4a03> I am one
#2449 [16:56] <Person> Any human experts?
#2450 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Person, You'll get 116.5 fps using that video card.
#2451 [16:56] <Person> Wooaahhhh
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#2453 [16:56] <JamesAlan> Hello
#2454 [16:56] <plm44> hi
#2455 [16:56] <JamesAlan> I need some help
#2456 [16:56] <wannabemac> Lol.
#2457 [16:56] <Person> That is very good news
#2458 [16:56] <plm44> what?
#2459 [16:56] <tyteen4a03> JamesAlan: Yes?
#2460 [16:56] <tyteen4a03> JamesAlan: Yes?
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#2462 [16:57] <Person> I go from 20 fps on tiny to 116!
#2463 [16:57] <Person> :D
#2464 [16:57] <tyteen4a03> Person: good for you :P
#2465 [16:57] <Person> 116 on fancy*
#2466 [16:57] <wannabemac> Lol
#2467 [16:57] <JamesAlan> Only sometimes but not always my minecraft freezes and stops at downloading terrain
#2468 [16:57] <Person> Only 500$ gaming pc
#2469 [16:57] <tyteen4a03> JamesAlan: when did you buy this computer?
#2470 [16:57] <JamesAlan> 9 months ago
#2471 [16:58] <Person> Shortest day of the year ftw
#2472 [16:58] <Person> Night time at 4:58
#2473 [16:58] <tyteen4a03> ??> JamesAlan win/dxdiag
#2474 [16:58] <VoxelHead> JamesAlan: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2475 [16:58] <VoxelHead> JamesAlan: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2476 [16:59] <Person> ??> Person win/dxdiag
#2477 [16:59] <VoxelHead> Person: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2478 [16:59] <VoxelHead> Person: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2479 [16:59] <JamesAlan> um
#2480 [16:59] <Person> Soz for spam
#2481 [16:59] <JamesAlan> I dont have a Win key
#2482 [16:59] <wannabemac> The windows peral
#2483 [16:59] <wannabemac> pearl*
#2484 [16:59] <tyteen4a03> JamesAlan: Are you on Windows?
#2485 [16:59] <JamesAlan> ?
#2486 [16:59] <JamesAlan> Yes
#2487 [16:59] <Person> Use you're lose key
#2488 [16:59] <tyteen4a03> ??> JamesAlan win/key
#2489 [16:59] <VoxelHead> JamesAlan: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#2490 [16:59] <TheNoodle> Then your win key will be between ctrl and atl.
#2491 [16:59] <TheNoodle> *alt
#2492 [16:59] <JamesAlan> Oh
#2493 [16:59] <JamesAlan> Ok
#2494 [16:59] <Person> Window's key
#2495 [17:00] <JamesAlan> So win and r
#2496 [17:00] <tyteen4a03> yup
#2497 [17:00] <JamesAlan> ok run popped up
#2498 [17:00] <Person> Yeah buddy
#2499 [17:00] <Person> type dxdiag
#2500 [17:00] <JamesAlan> ok
#2501 [17:00] <Person> Then ok
#2502 [17:00] <JamesAlan> This thing popped up
#2503 [17:00] <Person> say yes
#2504 [17:00] <JamesAlan> i did
#2505 [17:01] <JamesAlan> direct x diognostic tool?
#2506 [17:01] <Person> Go to display
#2507 [17:01] <Person> Yes
#2508 [17:01] <Person> Display
#2509 [17:01] <JamesAlan> ok
#2510 [17:01] <JamesAlan> ok
#2511 [17:01] <Person> Then tell us ur gpu
#2512 [17:01] <mib_1kp6wk> http://pastebin.com/vwtz0pga here it is vox
#2513 [17:01] <JamesAlan> where is my gpu
#2514 [17:01] <mib_1kp6wk> sorry it took a while
#2515 [17:01] <Person> Vox is a bot
#2516 [17:01] <Person> James
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#2518 [17:01] <mib_1kp6wk> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
#2519 [17:01] <Person> Find it
#2520 [17:02] <JamesAlan> SushiDude?
#2521 [17:02] <JamesAlan> Is that you?
#2522 [17:02] <TheNoodle> No.
#2523 [17:02] <JamesAlan> From beastnode?
#2524 [17:02] <TheNoodle> And it's not me either.
#2525 [17:02] <wannabemac> LOL
#2526 [17:02] <JamesAlan> Noodle!!
#2527 [17:02] <JamesAlan> YO
#2528 [17:02] <tyteen4a03> mib_1kp6wk: Hang on
#2529 [17:02] <JamesAlan> lol
#2530 [17:02] <Person> Under Chip type jamesalan
#2531 [17:02] <JamesAlan> Um where is my gpu?
#2532 [17:02] <JamesAlan> ok
#2533 [17:02] <TheNoodle> gg on finally recognising me.
#2534 [17:02] <mib_1kp6wk> i feel dumb D:
#2535 [17:02] <wannabemac> Guys, this is minecrafthelp, not sit down and have a conversation channel.
#2536 [17:02] <tyteen4a03> mib_1kp6wk: Your computer's too old to play minecraft
#2537 [17:02] <JamesAlan> Lol you just typed
#2538 [17:03] <mib_1kp6wk> seriously?
#2539 [17:03] <tyteen4a03> Yes
#2540 [17:03] <JamesAlan> under chip type it says DAC type
#2541 [17:03] <mib_1kp6wk> ;9
#2542 [17:03] <wannabemac> tyteen4a03 my comp is two years old and can run minecraft fine
#2543 [17:03] <tyteen4a03> wannabemac: http://pastebin.com/vwtz0pga
#2544 [17:03] <Person> The fll name
#2545 [17:03] <Person> Full*
#2546 [17:03] <mib_1kp6wk> mine is like 2003
#2547 [17:03] <tyteen4a03> Look at this thing, SiS 760, 384MB RAM
#2548 [17:03] <JamesAlan> hey person
#2549 [17:03] <mib_1kp6wk> or sumthing
#2550 [17:03] <wannabemac> Oh
#2551 [17:03] <wannabemac> wow
#2552 [17:03] <tyteen4a03> mib_1kp6wk: Minecraft requires a decent machine to run on
#2553 [17:03] <JamesAlan> Under chip type is DAC type
#2554 [17:03] <Person> Yes JameAlan?
#2555 [17:04] <Person> Just DAC?
#2556 [17:04] <JamesAlan> I get 300 fps on minecraft.
#2557 [17:04] <Person> That's it?
#2558 [17:04] <JamesAlan> no
#2559 [17:04] <Person> Then why are you here?
#2560 [17:04] <tyteen4a03> JamesAlan: just copy everything in the dxdiag and paste it on pastebin.com
#2561 [17:04] <JamesAlan> ok
#2562 [17:04] <JamesAlan> i cant copy it
#2563 [17:04] <Person> Just say the full gpu
#2564 [17:04] <tyteen4a03> ??> JamesAlan win/dxdiag
#2565 [17:04] <VoxelHead> JamesAlan: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2566 [17:04] <JamesAlan> wont let me put of curser over it
#2567 [17:04] <VoxelHead> JamesAlan: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2568 [17:04] <Person> Omg James
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#2570 [17:04] <tyteen4a03> please follow jame's instructions
#2571 [17:05] <Person> Chip type: (name)
#2572 [17:05] <wannabemac> I have to go.
#2573 [17:05] <wannabemac> Ill be back later
#2574 [17:05] <wannabemac> C ya guys!
#2575 [17:05] <tyteen4a03> Person: Can you not interrupt please?
#2576 [17:05] <Person> James Chip Type: ( name )
#2577 [17:05] <JamesAlan> ok
#2578 [17:05] <JamesAlan> i got it
#2579 [17:05] <JamesAlan> http://pastebin.com/HvznwDp6
#2580 [17:05] <JamesAlan> there you go
#2581 [17:06] <tyteen4a03> ok hang on
#2582 [17:06] <tyteen4a03> JamesAlan: spec looks fine, have you installed any mods?
#2583 [17:06] <JamesAlan> Yes
#2584 [17:06] <JamesAlan> I have Misa texture pack and too many items
#2585 [17:06] <JamesAlan> thats it
#2586 [17:06] <JamesAlan> and xray texture pack
#2587 [17:06] <tyteen4a03> hmm, what applications do you run when playing MC?
#2588 [17:06] <Person> Yeah James gpu is fine
#2589 [17:06] <JamesAlan> nothing
#2590 [17:06] <JamesAlan> lol
#2591 [17:06] <JamesAlan> googlechrome
#2592 [17:07] <tyteen4a03> Do you listen to music?
#2593 [17:07] <tyteen4a03> on Youtube?
#2594 [17:07] <JamesAlan> hmm
#2595 [17:07] <JamesAlan> i dont
#2596 [17:07] <Person> Thatgave me a blue screen onc
#2597 [17:07] <JamesAlan> ok its ok guys im good
#2598 [17:07] <Person> James froce update on mc
#2599 [17:07] <JamesAlan> thanks for the help
#2600 [17:07] <JamesAlan> i did :)
#2601 [17:07] <Person> Lol.
#2602 [17:08] <tyteen4a03> Person: use ??> user win/dxdiag to get his computer info
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#2604 [17:08] <Person> ik.
#2605 [17:08] <Person> firgured :P
#2606 [17:09] <AlexIsAverage> My Minecraft save loads me directly to the "You died!" screen, and crashes Java as soon as I enter it. Did I break it? Can it be salvaged?
#2607 [17:09] <Person> Got java off you're pc
#2608 [17:09] <Person> get*
#2609 [17:10] <tyteen4a03> Nope
#2610 [17:10] <Person> Then get the latest download
#2611 [17:10] <tyteen4a03> AlexIsAverage: Did you die from an TNT explosion?
#2612 [17:10] <AlexIsAverage> I think I got Creeper'd.
#2613 [17:10] <tyteen4a03> Is it a lot of creepers at once?
#2614 [17:10] <AlexIsAverage> Nope, just the one.
#2615 [17:10] <Person> Can he got optifine and take off explotion animation?
#2616 [17:11] <tyteen4a03> TheNoodle: do you remember the remove active entities thing in MCEdit?
#2617 [17:11] <tyteen4a03> Person: not related
#2618 [17:11] <TheNoodle> Um...sortof.
#2619 [17:12] <TheNoodle> I know it can be done, and from memory it's pretty easy.
#2620 [17:12] <AlexIsAverage> Then again, I could have just fallen or something. I was mining in a massive cavern at the time.
#2621 [17:13] <Person> The map is survival right?
#2622 [17:13] <AlexIsAverage> Yes.
#2623 [17:13] <tyteen4a03> I think AlexIsAverage might have triggered a lot of TNT upon respawn or death
#2624 [17:14] <Person> Alex is you're java up to date?
#2625 [17:14] <AlexIsAverage> It's possible. Creepers could have spawned around me right as I died or something.
#2626 [17:14] <tyteen4a03> Person: not related
#2627 [17:14] <AlexIsAverage> Speak of the devil, Java just asked me to update. Maybe it's that, but it was running smoothly before...
#2628 [17:14] <Person> tyteen4a03: No one asked you
#2629 [17:14] <AlexIsAverage> I'll go ahead and update for you guys. Thanks for responding.
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#2631 [17:14] <Person> kk
#2632 [17:15] <tyteen4a03> AlexIsAverage: Updating is optional, though recommended, but is not related to the issue
#2633 [17:15] <AlexIsAverage> Eh, can't hurt. Installing now.
#2634 [17:15] <tyteen4a03> TheNoodle: Can you tell AlexIsAverage how to clear entities in MCEdit? thanks
#2635 [17:15] <mib_j4yodz> when i open mine craft it just goes to a black screen and i can't play
#2636 [17:15] <Person> Mib
#2637 [17:15] <mib_j4yodz> yes
#2638 [17:15] <tyteen4a03> Person: I don't think that sort of attitude is welcomed here.
#2639 [17:15] <mib_j4yodz> what
#2640 [17:15] <tyteen4a03> mib_j4yodz: Does it always happen?
#2641 [17:16] <mib_j4yodz> no it started today
#2642 [17:16] * mib_fpu7tq [mib_fpu7tq@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2643 [17:16] <Person> Hmm
#2644 [17:16] <Person> Did you put any mods on?
#2645 [17:16] <mib_j4yodz> i tried to
#2646 [17:16] <tyteen4a03> ??> mib_j4yodz forceupdate
#2647 [17:16] <Person> That you're problem
#2648 [17:16] <VoxelHead> mib_j4yodz: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2649 [17:16] <VoxelHead> mib_j4yodz: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2650 [17:16] <Person> You prob messed up the modds
#2651 [17:16] <Person> Forceupdate like he said
#2652 [17:17] <mib_j4yodz> i already tried that
#2653 [17:17] <Person> uhh
#2654 [17:17] <mib_j4yodz> i can try it again
#2655 [17:17] <Person> hmm
#2656 [17:17] <Person> Go into you're minecraft.jar
#2657 [17:17] <mib_j4yodz> should i try it again
#2658 [17:17] <Person> you have winrar right?
#2659 [17:17] <AlexIsAverage> Java updated, but nothing's changed.
#2660 [17:17] <mib_j4yodz> what
#2661 [17:18] <tyteen4a03> AlexIsAverage: it was not related to the issue anyways
#2662 [17:18] <Person> Hmm
#2663 [17:18] <tyteen4a03> I don't remember how to clear entities in MCEdit, or else I would have told you
#2664 [17:18] <Person> Java crashes
#2665 [17:18] <AlexIsAverage> Person: Yep, just crashes.
#2666 [17:18] <Person> Like after you click respawn?
#2667 [17:19] <mib_j4yodz> can you help me
#2668 [17:19] <WugBot> mib_j4yodz: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2669 [17:19] <WugBot> mib_j4yodz: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2670 [17:19] <AlexIsAverage> It won't even let me do that. It loads the world, goes directly to "You died!" and both the buttons are greyed out. Click anywhere and Minecraft stops responding and never recovers.
#2671 [17:19] <tyteen4a03> mib_j4yodz: Ignore WugBot
#2672 [17:19] <mib_j4yodz> are you with mojang
#2673 [17:19] <tyteen4a03> We are volunteers
#2674 [17:20] <mib_j4yodz> i need help
#2675 [17:20] <Person> We are nothing officail
#2676 [17:20] <Person> Just random people over internet
#2677 [17:20] <tyteen4a03> TheNoodle: Do you remember?
#2678 [17:20] <mib_j4yodz> what
#2679 [17:20] <Person> Mib 14 what's wrong?
#2680 [17:20] <Person> alex
#2681 [17:20] <Person> Hmm
#2682 [17:20] <TheNoodle> Sorry, was afk.
#2683 [17:20] <TheNoodle> And no :/
#2684 [17:21] <TheNoodle> Oh and Person, watch your attitude, tyteen4a03 is bauss.
#2685 [17:21] <AlexIsAverage> Yes?
#2686 [17:21] <mib_j4yodz> the black screen just keeps showing up
#2687 [17:21] <Person> Mib did you force update?
#2688 [17:21] <tyteen4a03> mib_j4yodz: the black screen happens after the mojang splash or before?
#2689 [17:21] <mib_j4yodz> before
#2690 [17:22] <tyteen4a03> ??> mib_j4yodz win/reinst/bat
#2691 [17:22] <VoxelHead> mib_j4yodz: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2692 [17:22] <VoxelHead> mib_j4yodz: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#2693 [17:22] <tyteen4a03> the mod might have messed with some other places as well...
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#2695 [17:22] <tyteen4a03> he finally left
#2696 [17:22] <TheNoodle> \o/
#2697 [17:22] <curmet> can you tell me how to luanch minecraft
#2698 [17:23] <mib_j4yodz> when i force update it does it then goes to the black screen
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#2700 [17:23] <mib_j4yodz> please help
#2701 [17:24] <tyteen4a03> ??> mib_j4yodz win/reinst/bat
#2702 [17:24] <mib_j4yodz> i need help
#2703 [17:24] <VoxelHead> mib_j4yodz: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2704 [17:24] <VoxelHead> mib_j4yodz: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#2705 [17:24] <tyteen4a03> Please follow Vox's instruction
#2706 [17:25] <tyteen4a03> curmet: Please download minecraft from minecraft.net/download, or play online at http://minecraft.net/play
#2707 [17:25] <tyteen4a03> Make sure you have java - http://java.com
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#2709 [17:25] <mib_j4yodz> i have a mac
#2710 [17:25] <tyteen4a03> mib_j4yodz: Are you on OSX Lion?
#2711 [17:25] <mib_j4yodz> yes
#2712 [17:26] <tyteen4a03> ??> mib_j4yodz .minecraft/lion
#2713 [17:26] <curmet> how do i launch the game
#2714 [17:26] <tyteen4a03> curmet: Please download minecraft from minecraft.net/download, or play online at http://minecraft.net/play
#2715 [17:26] <tyteen4a03> ??> mib_j4yodz mac/.minecraft/lion
#2716 [17:26] <mib_j4yodz> HELP
#2717 [17:26] <VoxelHead> mib_j4yodz: (mac/.minecraft/lion) Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#2718 [17:26] <tyteen4a03> and then
#2719 [17:26] <tyteen4a03> ??> mib_j4yodz mac/reinst
#2720 [17:26] <VoxelHead> mib_j4yodz: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2721 [17:26] <VoxelHead> mib_j4yodz: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2722 [17:27] <silvy> i am trying to get on to single player mindcraft free but it will not load
#2723 [17:27] <WugBot> silvy: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2724 [17:27] <WugBot> silvy: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2725 [17:27] <mib_j4yodz> it won't work
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#2727 [17:27] <tyteen4a03> silvy: You need to pay for Minecraft.
#2728 [17:27] <AlexIsAverage> Hm. I decided to try and update Minecraft, but now it's hanging on the update screen. Starts to download, and then just idles whenever it feels like.
#2729 [17:27] <tyteen4a03> mib_j4yodz: In which part you are stuck?
#2730 [17:28] <tyteen4a03> ??> AlexIsAverage win/reinst/bat
#2731 [17:28] <VoxelHead> AlexIsAverage: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2732 [17:28] <VoxelHead> AlexIsAverage: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#2733 [17:28] <AlexIsAverage> Will do.
#2734 [17:28] <Augury> I've been trying to buy Minecraft for a day now. I've tried 2 different cards and paypal. Nothing seems to be working. Any suggestions?
#2735 [17:29] <silvy> i have a acount but not the payed mindcraft
#2736 [17:29] <AlexIsAverage> Ran the .bat, and the update's hanging.
#2737 [17:29] <tyteen4a03> Augury: Has the payment hit the bank?
#2738 [17:29] <Augury> No, it keeps getting stopped by the people taking the payment
#2739 [17:29] <tyteen4a03> AlexIsAverage: it could be that the Minecraft servers are busy, or your internet is unstable, try a few times
#2740 [17:29] <tyteen4a03> Augury: Any error messages?
#2741 [17:29] <AlexIsAverage> Will do.
#2742 [17:30] <silvy> it wont work
#2743 [17:30] <tyteen4a03> silvy: You need to buy Minecraft in order to play it.
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#2745 [17:30] <AlexIsAverage> It seems to be hanging as soon as it tells me "@ _______ KB/sec"
#2746 [17:30] <Augury> It kept saying please use another card. or try again, I tried again, and it locked me out of both my cards, and paypal.
#2747 [17:31] <tyteen4a03> Augury: I'd call your credit card company
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#2749 [17:31] <tyteen4a03> Augury: Has the payment hit the bank?
#2750 [17:31] <AlexIsAverage> Just kidding, it decided to hang this time without the "@ _______ KB/sec"
#2751 [17:31] <silvy> but why use the free mindcraft
#2752 [17:31] <tyteen4a03> oops
#2753 [17:31] <bman> Anyone seen the bug when players connect to the server, they are always spawned at the spawn point. Beds and logging out doesnt help, they always spawn at the spawn point
#2754 [17:31] <Augury> I did, they said there are no problems. It should be going through
#2755 [17:32] <tyteen4a03> silvy: If you are looking for Minecraft classic, which is free, it is at minecraft.net/classic/play
#2756 [17:32] <tyteen4a03> Augury: you called paypal?
#2757 [17:32] <Augury> My roommate bought the game right before I did, we share the same internet... could that be an issue?
#2758 [17:32] <Augury> Some sort of IP tracking?
#2759 [17:33] <Augury> I did not call paypal yet.
#2760 [17:33] <AlexIsAverage> It's really wanting to go through now...gets to ~21/22% and then hangs.
#2761 [17:33] <AlexIsAverage> Went through! It's a Christmas miracle! Loading the world...
#2762 [17:33] <silvy> i tried playing that but the screen keeps on going black and i have java
#2763 [17:34] <tyteen4a03> ??> silvy win/dxdig
#2764 [17:34] <AlexIsAverage> No change....
#2765 [17:34] <tyteen4a03> ??> silvy win/dxdiag
#2766 [17:34] <VoxelHead> silvy: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2767 [17:34] <VoxelHead> silvy: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2768 [17:34] <AlexIsAverage> Still hanging. I heard water this time.
#2769 [17:34] <silvy> ok
#2770 [17:34] <tyteen4a03> AlexIsAverage: The actual solution hasn't been given to you yet, and in fact I am looking
#2771 [17:35] <AlexIsAverage> Thanks so much! :)
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#2773 [17:36] <tyteen4a03> AlexIsAverage: Please follow this thread's instruction: http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/27983/ive-set-off-some-tnt-what-should-i-do
#2774 [17:36] <AlexIsAverage> Whoa. I kinda fixed it.
#2775 [17:36] <AlexIsAverage> I respawned in my bed, but now Minecraft's lagging a WHOLE lot. Any ideas?
#2776 [17:37] <tyteen4a03> AlexIsAverage: The TNTs are finishing itself
#2777 [17:37] <tyteen4a03> should be gone in a minute or two
#2778 [17:37] <AlexIsAverage> Awesome. Thanks so much for your help, tyteen4a03! If I have any other issues, I'll drop back in.
#2779 [17:37] <tyteen4a03> ok :)
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#2781 [17:38] <tyteen4a03> Augury: I'd email paypal if the payment did hit the bank
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#2783 [17:41] <silvy> i did what you said but whats the IRC channel
#2784 [17:41] <silvy> where do i find it
#2785 [17:41] <tyteen4a03> silvy: Here
#2786 [17:41] <Augury> Okay, I'll see what I can find out.
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#2788 [17:48] <silvy> here,wheres here
#2789 [17:49] <TheNoodle> in the box you're typing in to send messages to us.
#2790 [17:49] <pistolpower> -.- I brought the game last year, haven't played it for like 9 months, now it says my account is not premium..
#2791 [17:50] <TheNoodle> pistolpower, redownload the launcher
#2792 [17:50] <pistolpower> I did that because I couldnt find the old launcher
#2793 [17:51] <pistolpower> MAybe I need too delete the old launcher but I don't know where it is
#2794 [17:51] <tyteen4a03> silvy: Paste the link here
#2795 [17:51] <pistolpower> >.<
#2796 [17:51] <pistolpower> ?
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#2798 [17:51] <tyteen4a03> pistolpower: You can just redownload the new launcher if you forgot where the old one was
#2799 [17:51] <pistolpower> I did that
#2800 [17:51] <pistolpower> It remembered all the details
#2801 [17:51] <pistolpower> SO I think it using the old one
#2802 [17:52] <tyteen4a03> the new launcher with update news tells you you are not premium?
#2803 [17:52] <silvy> on mindcraft free when it is generating the level it just turns black and i have already downloaded java
#2804 [17:52] <pistolpower> It didnt update though
#2805 [17:52] <tyteen4a03> try a force update
#2806 [17:52] <pistolpower> That's the whole thing
#2807 [17:52] <pistolpower> How?
#2808 [17:52] <tyteen4a03> ??> pistolpower forceupdate
#2809 [17:52] <VoxelHead> pistolpower: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2810 [17:52] <VoxelHead> pistolpower: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
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#2813 [17:54] <XWLPenguin> Hello
#2814 [17:54] <tyteen4a03> Hi
#2815 [17:54] <pistolpower> Ok I deleted the files and am trying now, it has option as an option now too
#2816 [17:54] <XWLPenguin> What Java Script do we need for Minecraft?
#2817 [17:55] <XWLPenguin> My game keeps crashing every 5 minutes because of Java
#2818 [17:55] <tyteen4a03> XWLPenguin: Java and JavaScripts are different things, are you using Windows?
#2819 [17:55] <XWLPenguin> Windows
#2820 [17:55] <tyteen4a03> Does it happen frequently?
#2821 [17:55] <XWLPenguin> Everytime
#2822 [17:55] <tyteen4a03> ??> XWLPenguin win/dxdiag
#2823 [17:55] <VoxelHead> XWLPenguin: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2824 [17:55] <VoxelHead> XWLPenguin: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2826 [17:56] <wannabemac> hello
#2827 [17:57] <tyteen4a03> hi
#2828 [17:58] <wannabemac> got my irc client working
#2829 [17:58] <wannabemac> what is the command to register my nickname again?
#2830 [17:59] <wannabemac> ./msg NickServ username password ?
#2831 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> register, or identify?
#2832 [17:59] <wannabemac> register
#2833 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv REGISTER password email
#2834 [18:00] <wannabemac> is that it?
#2835 [18:00] <XWLPenguin> http://pastebin.com/Gnz8Hc8J
#2836 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> That's it
#2837 [18:00] <tyteen4a03> XWLPenguin: hang on
#2838 [18:00] <wannabemac> then is it /msg nickserver IDENTIFY <password> to identify?
#2839 [18:01] <XWLPenguin> Alright
#2840 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> wannabemac - Yes
#2841 [18:01] <wannabemac> okay then
#2842 [18:03] <tyteen4a03> XWLPenguin: Hang on, searching for things
#2843 [18:03] <tyteen4a03> XWLPenguin: Please install this driver for your display card: http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/285.62/285.62-desktop-win7-winvista-32bit-english-whql.exe
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#2846 [18:04] <pistolpower> Ok I am back
#2847 [18:04] <XWLPenguin> Doing so now
#2848 [18:05] <pistolpower> It still doesn't work
#2849 [18:05] <XWLPenguin> Alright, it's done
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#2851 [18:05] <mib_y1l13a> i bought minecraft and i cant figure out how to install it
#2852 [18:06] <pistolpower> BUt the last login I had, had an underscore between my name right. Then I try loging in it says failed. So then I use trecover username and recover password and this acfcount doesnt have an underscore
#2853 [18:06] <tyteen4a03> mib_y1l13a: Just download Java, download Minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/download, then run it
#2854 [18:06] <tyteen4a03> pistolpower: might be your memory
#2855 [18:06] <pistolpower> And in the website it says I don't own the game...
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#2858 [18:07] <tyteen4a03> What was your original username?
#2859 [18:07] <pistolpower> Yet I brought it and played on the 8chan server just before last christmas
#2860 [18:07] <thedude> wassup
#2861 [18:07] <pistolpower> Pistol_power
#2862 [18:07] <tyteen4a03> !paid pistol_power
#2863 [18:07] <pistolpower> That was the last login thing
#2864 [18:07] <tyteen4a03> !paid pistolpower
#2865 [18:07] <pistolpower> Yes
#2866 [18:07] <mib_y1l13a> i have java and i downloaded minecraft.exe and it wont run
#2867 [18:07] <pistolpower> -.-
#2868 [18:07] <tyteen4a03> !paid pistolpower
#2869 [18:07] <thedude> ok \
#2870 [18:07] <tyteen4a03> mib_y1l13a: What happens when you try to run it?
#2871 [18:07] <mib_y1l13a> nothing
#2872 [18:07] <tyteen4a03> pistolpower: login with your old username
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#2874 [18:07] <thedude> same
#2875 [18:08] <tyteen4a03> ??> thedude only/you
#2876 [18:08] <VoxelHead> thedude: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#2877 [18:08] <VoxelHead> thedude: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#2878 [18:08] <pistolpower> I can login to my account but I recovered password and it was for without underscore
#2879 [18:08] <pistolpower> :(
#2880 [18:08] <thedude> mine just freezes when i start it up
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#2882 [18:08] <tyteen4a03> pistolpower: recover password for pistol_ower
#2883 [18:08] <thedude> WASSUP
#2884 [18:08] <pistolpower> It says failed to login
#2885 [18:08] <tyteen4a03> *postol_power
#2886 [18:08] <tyteen4a03> WASSSSSSSUP
#2887 [18:08] <thedude> wasssup
#2888 [18:08] <wannabemac> spam much?
#2889 [18:08] <thedude> WASSUP
#2890 [18:08] <thedude> k i done
#2891 [18:09] <wannabemac> ./kick thedude
#2892 [18:09] <tyteen4a03> wannabemac: it's a meme
#2893 [18:09] <thedude> sorry
#2894 [18:09] <wannabemac> lol i cant kick xD
#2895 [18:09] <thedude> hahah
#2896 [18:09] <wannabemac> i have no power xD
#2897 [18:09] <pistolpower> Ok I re-extracted the file from the backup
#2898 [18:09] <griffkin> cannot connect to server. Rebooted after updating to 1.0.1
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#2900 [18:09] <thedude> um
#2901 [18:09] <pistolpower> Now when I try to connect with last login tdetails it says can't connect to minecraft.net
#2902 [18:09] <tyteen4a03> pistolpower: activate recover password proceedure for pistol_power, then use the new password to log in
#2903 [18:09] <thedude> so yeah is every one having start up problems
#2904 [18:09] <thedude> with minecraft
#2905 [18:10] <thedude> well i know some friends of mine whos acount got hacked
#2906 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> !topic -1
#2907 [18:10] <thedude> maybe the same happend to yo
#2908 [18:10] <wannabemac> It is unlikely.
#2909 [18:10] <thedude> um
#2910 [18:10] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: Good, now I can sleep
#2911 [18:10] <mib_y1l13a> when a click on minecraft.exe on my desktop nithing happens
#2912 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: sleep is for the weak.
#2913 [18:11] <thedude> yeah but my friend was very unlucky
#2914 [18:11] <tyteen4a03> it's 7AM :(
#2915 [18:11] <tyteen4a03> mib_y1l13a: Not even a window?
#2916 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: the day is young!
#2917 [18:11] <fysics> try double clicking
#2918 [18:11] <tyteen4a03> or that
#2919 [18:11] <mib_y1l13a> no
#2920 [18:11] <thedude> hahah sleep at no its 7 pm
#2921 [18:11] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: I have been up for 24 hours x_x
#2922 [18:11] <thedude> o ok then
#2923 [18:11] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti o my lord, approve my sleep request!
#2924 [18:11] <thedude> funny we are like the only ones chatting
#2925 [18:12] <thedude> fine
#2926 [18:12] <pistolpower> Ok when I try to recover account Pistol_power it says "Success! An e-mail has been dispatched and should make its way to your inbox momentarily." but no email arives. So I use recover username by email, and it only tells me I have this account, but I only registered one account im sure..
#2927 [18:12] <wannabemac> That is because this channel is for assistance, not casual chat
#2928 [18:12] <thedude> jk
#2929 [18:12] <tyteen4a03> pistolpower: hang on
#2930 [18:12] <thedude> i know
#2931 [18:13] <pistolpower> Ok, in my opinion I think it has to do with the underscore :(
#2932 [18:13] <thedude> mine just freezes when i luanch it no matter what i do
#2933 [18:13] <wannabemac> that would not be the issue
#2934 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: I say go for 48 or 72.
#2935 [18:13] <thedude> it is sad
#2936 [18:13] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: what if I am sick?
#2937 [18:13] <tyteen4a03> pistolpower: I am testing the system, hang on
#2938 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: DayQuil.
#2939 [18:13] <pistolpower> thankyou
#2940 [18:13] <thedude> well i have tried like 2111 times it just says error then bing the screen says not responding
#2941 [18:14] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: what
#2942 [18:14] <XWLPenguin> Installing the graphics driver now
#2943 [18:14] <thedude> it just like freezes
#2944 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> thedude: well, what you say happens keeps changing. First it was nothing, then it was freezing, now it's an error message
#2945 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> Maybe next time it'll work
#2946 [18:14] <thedude> hmmmm
#2947 [18:15] <thedude> well its worth a try
#2948 [18:16] <tyteen4a03> pistolpower: Do you remember another email address?
#2949 [18:16] <thedude> it is loading
#2950 [18:16] <pistolpower> no
#2951 [18:16] <mib_y1l13a> i still need help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2952 [18:16] <pistolpower> but the password has 13 digits in the field
#2953 [18:16] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: I DON'T CARE I am going t o s l e p
#2954 [18:16] * mr_trousers [mr_trousers@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2955 [18:16] <pistolpower> And the last server I joined was the 87chnag one
#2956 [18:17] <wannabemac> \\?
#2957 [18:17] <pistolpower> 7chan
#2958 [18:17] <mr_trousers> Is it possible to get a refund for minecraft?
#2959 [18:17] <thedude> ok the java loding was done then it just turns whit
#2960 [18:17] <tyteen4a03> mr_trousers: Why would like to get a refund?
#2961 [18:17] <wannabemac> It is not.
#2962 [18:17] <pistolpower> Maybe I registered without underscore by accident and then couldnt register a new account to that email, I don't know...
#2963 [18:17] <tyteen4a03> *would you
#2964 [18:18] <wannabemac> Well, I guess it kinda is, but very unlikely, but why would you want a refund?
#2965 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Refund policy can be found at minecraft.net/support --> payment -> refund
#2966 [18:18] <thedude> lala
#2967 [18:18] <tyteen4a03> pistolpower: Go to minecraft.net/profile, check the first digit of the account and the email domain
#2968 [18:18] <thedude> wow it freezes
#2969 [18:18] <tyteen4a03> maybe you forgot something
#2970 [18:19] <pistolpower> Profile Player name: PistolPower E-mail: i**********@g****.com (parts of address are hidden) Click here to change your password
#2971 [18:19] <pistolpower> There isn't any information like that I am afraid
#2972 [18:20] <tyteen4a03> pistolpower: I meant Pistol_Power
#2973 [18:20] <pistolpower> I can't log onto it
#2974 [18:20] <pistolpower> :(
#2975 [18:21] <tyteen4a03> pistolpower: The only thing I can think of is that you might have another email registerd but you forgot about it
#2976 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Probably do
#2977 [18:21] <tyteen4a03> otherwise I am cluelesws
#2978 [18:21] <pistolpower> I don't remember the password, but I have it in my last connection
#2979 [18:21] <pistolpower> Yes that is possible, but then why can't I login with the same info I used last time i played?
#2980 [18:21] <wannabemac> Did you type a space after your username?
#2981 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> You registered two accounts, pistolpower and pistol_power. The latter you purchased a premium account under.
#2982 [18:22] <wannabemac> Or somewhere in your password?
#2983 [18:22] <tyteen4a03> I think MC trims spaces
#2984 [18:22] <pistolpower> No
#2985 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> minecraft usernames cannot have spaces in them
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#2987 [18:22] <wannabemac> GreyVulpine is a stalker O.o
#2988 [18:22] <pistolpower> That maybe true idk but it should have the same email then
#2989 [18:22] * NeedHelp [NeedHelp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2990 [18:22] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: my user do
#2991 [18:22] <pistolpower> Can you check to see if an email adress is registered to the account?
#2992 [18:22] <tyteen4a03> it was created before mollstam fixed the bug :P
#2993 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> pistolpower - We cannot
#2994 [18:23] <pistolpower> Maybe it lost its details somehow
#2995 [18:23] <pistolpower> ..
#2996 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> tyteen4a03 - You should've been prompted to change it then
#2997 [18:23] <tyteen4a03> yup
#2998 [18:23] <tyteen4a03> but I don't want to
#2999 [18:23] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#2999 [18:23] <wannabemac> That sucks, I have 2 accounts on 1 email.
#3000 [18:23] <NeedHelp> How long does it need to get upgrade to premium? Paid with EC card out of germany yesterday at 18:30
#3001 [18:23] <tyteen4a03> the username's "like a boss"
#3002 [18:23] <wannabemac> Damn it.
#3003 [18:23] <tyteen4a03> so changing it would lose the purpose
#3004 [18:23] <pistolpower> Oh
#3005 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> ??> NeedHelp payment
#3006 [18:23] <VoxelHead> NeedHelp: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#3007 [18:23] <VoxelHead> NeedHelp: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#3008 [18:23] <pistolpower> It might have had a space then idk
#3009 [18:24] <pistolpower> DOes an underscore count as a space
#3010 [18:24] <tyteen4a03> no
#3011 [18:24] <pistolpower> -.-
#3012 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> You most likely forgot which email address you registered pistol_power under
#3013 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Try a recover username on all email addresses you use
#3014 [18:25] <tyteen4a03> Well, I am off to sleep
#3015 [18:25] <tyteen4a03> adios
#3016 [18:25] <pistolpower> Ok
#3017 [18:25] <NeedHelp> My payment method is elc
#3018 [18:25] <NeedHelp> elv*
#3019 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> NeedHelp - We're not Mojang, we do not get paid by them, nor do we have access to payment or account information. We're community-run support. We cannot help with payment issues.
#3020 [18:26] <pistolpower> Nope it isn't on any acount I know off
#3021 [18:26] <NeedHelp> okay
#3022 [18:26] <NeedHelp> bye and thank you :D
#3023 [18:26] <pistolpower> Funnly enough when I login without the underscore it says about recovering account, is that normal?
#3024 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> pistolpower and pistol_power are two seperate accounts
#3025 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> There is nothing linking them.
#3026 [18:28] <pistolpower> -.-....
#3027 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Best we can offer you right now, is Mojang's help email at help@mojang.com
#3028 [18:28] <pistolpower> How do i get my password out of the field so I can try it on the website
#3029 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> They're the only ones who can help you recover your account
#3030 [18:28] <pistolpower> Ok...
#3031 [18:28] <pistolpower> ty
#3032 [18:29] * Mr_Le0nheart [Mr_Le0nheart@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3033 [18:30] <Mr_Le0nheart> hey guys i have a problem (internal exception java.net.sockettimeoutexception read timed out) can you hepl me ?
#3034 [18:30] <wannabemac> That is the server you are connectiong to
#3035 [18:30] * sorcerer [sorcerer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3036 [18:30] <sorcerer> hi
#3037 [18:30] <sorcerer> any admins arround?
#3038 [18:30] <wannabemac> hello
#3039 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Does this happen on one server, or all MP servers you try, Mr_Le0nheart?
#3040 [18:31] <Mr_Le0nheart> i dont really know, because i only joined on a friends hamchi server
#3041 [18:31] <Mr_Le0nheart> *hamachi
#3042 [18:31] <wannabemac> Try connecting to another server.
#3043 [18:31] <sorcerer> hi. I have an admin question. can anybody help? It's stilly, but still
#3044 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Mr_Le0nheart - Ah, we don't provide support for hamachi servers for that very reason. Hamachi adds a needless layer of complexity that can give issues like the one you're experiencing
#3045 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> sorcerer - Please, just ask the question.
#3046 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Don't ask to ask.
#3047 [18:32] * wannabemac chuckles
#3047 [18:32] <Mr_Le0nheart> okay are there alternatives to hamachi servers ?
#3048 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Mr_Le0nheart - Yes.
#3049 [18:32] <wannabemac> Port Forwarding, hosted
#3050 [18:32] <sorcerer> ok, well, i was playing on singleplayer, like usual. Creating my flatland. peacefull
#3051 [18:32] <sorcerer> but i changed to easy for a few mins to collect some bones
#3052 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Mr_Le0nheart - There are a ton of Minecraft servers that are not hosted on Hamachi
#3053 [18:32] <sorcerer> needing sceletons
#3054 [18:33] <sorcerer> and a creeper exploded
#3055 [18:33] <wannabemac> So what do you exactly need sorcerer?
#3056 [18:33] <sorcerer> nothing shocking except it exploded right next to my base
#3057 [18:33] <Mr_Le0nheart> but does my friend have alternatives for server hosting ?
#3058 [18:33] <sorcerer> the full game glitched, and all went transparent
#3059 [18:33] <AG_Clinton> There's about a billion minecraft server hosts.
#3060 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Mr_Le0nheart - Yes. He can either look up proper port forwarding, or he can pay a server host to run a minecraft server for him
#3061 [18:33] <wannabemac> That happens alot sorcerer
#3062 [18:34] <sorcerer> and a full large chest of redstone was lonst, and so was a bunch of other stuff. I'm just wondering if there's a way to go to the state before the glitch
#3063 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> sorcerer - There is not.
#3064 [18:34] <sorcerer> since it was single player
#3065 [18:34] <wannabemac> Nope.
#3066 [18:34] <Mr_Le0nheart> so we have to pay money to play online on a server ?
#3067 [18:34] <wannabemac> Nope
#3068 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Mr_Le0nheart - No
#3069 [18:34] <wannabemac> Unless you get one with a cheap owner...
#3070 [18:35] <AG_Clinton> Mr_Le0nheart: Join one of the billions of servers already hosted.
#3071 [18:35] * Penguin [Penguin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3072 [18:35] <wannabemac> Do you want me to give you one to try to connect to?
#3073 [18:35] <Penguin> Hello
#3074 [18:35] <sorcerer> ok, is there a way to just cheat myself and just add myself the stuff i lost on single player?
#3075 [18:35] <wannabemac> Hello
#3076 [18:35] <wannabemac> Yes sorcerer, too many items is one option
#3077 [18:35] * Isa [Isa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3078 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> sorcerer - Sure there are. Inventory editors, the too many items mod is another
#3079 [18:36] * XWLPenguin [XWLPenguin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3080 [18:36] <sorcerer> any of them simple to do and explain how to do?
#3081 [18:36] <Mr_Le0nheart> can my friend or me conatct somebody to host a server for us ?
#3082 [18:36] <XWLPenguin> So
#3083 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> sorcerer - Here's one that's online: http://nathancmatthews.com/mcinvedit/
#3084 [18:36] <wannabemac> Mr_Le0nheart good minecraft hosts
#3085 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Mr_Le0nheart - Sure, for a fee, you can have somebody host a minecraft server for you
#3086 [18:36] <wannabemac> I need to go
#3087 [18:37] <XWLPenguin> I download the NVIDIA installer I was told to
#3088 [18:37] <Isa> Hello,can semeone help me?
#3089 [18:37] <XWLPenguin> but it crashed halfway
#3090 [18:37] <Mr_Le0nheart> is there a option to host one on ourselves ?
#3091 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> There is, as well
#3092 [18:38] <sorcerer> thanks greyvulpine. that'll help a lot
#3093 [18:38] <Mr_Le0nheart> which option, if i can ask ?
#3094 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Mr_Le0nheart - It's called port forwarding. It's a process in which a person hosting it at home will configure their router to let minecraft traffic through, without resorting to a program like Hamachi
#3095 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> There are various websites which give how-tos on port forwarding on dozens of models of routers available out there. Portforward.com is one
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#3097 [18:41] <Mr_Le0nheart> thx for the link guys :)
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#3099 [18:42] <XWLPenguin> I wish my problem was easy to solve :(
#3100 [18:42] <Buz> Penguin what's wrong?
#3101 [18:43] <Isa> Can semeone help me with this error: "org.lwjgl.LWJGLEException: Pixel format not accelerated" ?
#3102 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Isa - Are you on Windows?
#3103 [18:43] <Isa> yes,windows 7
#3104 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Isa - Please give us a dxdiag. It'll give us more information about your system. Please follow VoxelHead's instructions
#3105 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> ??> Isa win/dxdiag
#3106 [18:43] <VoxelHead> Isa: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3107 [18:43] <VoxelHead> Isa: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3108 [18:44] <Isa> ok i'll do that
#3109 [18:45] <XWLPenguin> It's weird, each solution goes into another problem. After 5 minutes, every time, Minecraft would crash. I was told to download a NVIDIA installer, (or something along those lines) but then that crashed halfway through the download. Now, Minecraft doesn't crash, it just randomly closes.
#3110 [18:45] <Buz> Is you're java up to date?
#3111 [18:46] <XWLPenguin> Erm...
#3112 [18:47] <Buz> Is it
#3113 [18:47] <Buz> ?
#3114 [18:47] <XWLPenguin> I did just download it the other day for Minecraft
#3115 [18:48] <Buz> Okay
#3116 [18:48] <XWLPenguin> it says last update was 12/16
#3117 [18:48] <Buz> Do you have any mods?
#3118 [18:48] <XWLPenguin> No.
#3119 [18:49] <Buz> Uhh
#3120 [18:49] <Buz> What gpu does you're computer have?
#3121 [18:51] <Isa> http://pastebin.com/r77LN9d8 here it is :3
#3122 [18:52] <Buz> Penguin this is not a average problem :O
#3123 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Isa - You're running a NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT video card on Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit. The drivers you want to download and install are here: http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/38915
#3124 [18:54] <XWLPenguin> Sorry for taking a while, the card was put in a few years ago and I can't name it off the top of my head.
#3125 [18:54] * mib_c0qbao [mib_c0qbao@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3126 [18:55] <sorcerer> using this link http://nathancmatthews.com/mcinvedit/ i seem to be unable to upload my currently existing inventory
#3127 [18:55] <Buz> ??> XWLPenguin win/dxdiag
#3128 [18:55] <VoxelHead> XWLPenguin: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3129 [18:55] <VoxelHead> XWLPenguin: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3130 [18:55] <sorcerer> is there a trick to doing it?
#3131 [18:55] * leaper [leaper@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3132 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> sorcerer - Looks like that website may be out of date then, if it can't upload it.
#3133 [18:55] <sorcerer> using this link http://nathancmatthews.com/mcinvedit/ i seem to be unable to upload my currently existing inventory
#3134 [18:55] <XWLPenguin> NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
#3135 [18:55] <sorcerer> thanks
#3136 [18:55] <leaper> i need help
#3137 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> sorcerer - You may need to try another inventory editor
#3138 [18:56] <leaper> help
#3139 [18:56] <sorcerer> ok, i'll look on the net and wee what works
#3140 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> sorcerer - Try one of these here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Programs_and_editors#Inventory_Editors
#3141 [18:56] <Buz> Penguin this is a odd error
#3142 [18:56] <Buz> Try deleting mc 100% then redownloading
#3143 [18:56] <leaper> i need help
#3144 [18:56] <XWLPenguin> Alright
#3145 [18:56] <Isa> ok i dowloaded,i just need to wait 2 hours and do what?
#3146 [18:56] <Buz> leaper explain wat
#3147 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> leaper - What do you need help with?
#3148 [18:57] <Buz> what*
#3149 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Isa - Install it. You may need to reboot at the end. Then try minecraft
#3150 [18:57] <sorcerer> tmi seems usefull and simple to use. I'll try that first
#3151 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> leaper - What do you need help with?
#3152 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> leaper - Hello?
#3153 [18:57] <leaper> whenever i open mine craft and hit login it turns to a black screen
#3154 [18:57] * mib_z1xmf4 [mib_z1xmf4@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3155 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> leaper - Has it ever worked before? Did you install any mods?
#3156 [18:57] <Buz> Leaper force update
#3157 [18:57] <Isa> that's all?
#3158 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Isa - That's all.
#3159 [18:58] <leaper> i installed a mod
#3160 [18:58] <Isa> ok
#3161 [18:58] <Buz> Yeah
#3162 [18:58] <Buz> Leaper you prob didn't delete meta inf
#3163 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> leaper - Then that's why minecraft doesn't work. Go to your launcher's options menu, hit Force Update
#3164 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Then log in as normal
#3165 [18:58] <Isa> thanks for help then :D
#3166 [18:58] <Isa> bye
#3167 [18:58] <Buz> grey i think he just needs to delete meta inf
#3168 [18:58] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#3168 [18:59] <Buz> Leaper did you delete meta inf file in minecraft.jar?
#3169 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> It could also be outdated mods, it could be a mod conflict, it could be that he didn't install it right, or any number of other reasons
#3170 [18:59] <leaper> help
#3171 [18:59] <Buz> Ahh true
#3172 [18:59] <Buz> Best if forces update
#3173 [19:00] <Buz> he*
#3174 [19:00] * GreyVulpine nods
#3174 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> Force update, then reinstall mod properly
#3175 [19:00] <Buz> Leaper start up minecraft
#3176 [19:00] <leaper> i have already tried to force update
#3177 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> leaper - Do you still get a black screen after a Force Update?
#3178 [19:01] <leaper> yes
#3179 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> leaper - What operating system are you running? Windows? MacOS? Linux?
#3180 [19:01] <Buz> Gpu problem then
#3181 [19:01] * wannabemac [wannabemac@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3182 [19:01] <leaper> mac os x
#3183 [19:01] <wannabemac> Hello
#3184 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Go to your /users/username/Library/Application Support/minecraft folder
#3185 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Delete everything inside except for saves. Then run minecraft again
#3186 [19:02] <wannabemac> Hey grey?
#3187 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#3188 [19:02] * geraldbrent [geraldbrent@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3189 [19:02] <Buz> Pfft wannabepc*
#3190 [19:02] <wannabemac> Nick Server says wannabemac is not a registered nickname when i just registered it an hour ago
#3191 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Did you complete registration using the email instructions you were sent?
#3192 [19:02] <wannabemac> oops
#3193 [19:03] <wannabemac> lol i should do that
#3194 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps
#3195 [19:04] <wannabemac> oops didnt get the email not in spam either
#3196 [19:05] <wannabemac> What was the command again?
#3197 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> /ns REGISTER password email
#3198 [19:06] <wannabemac> there we go
#3199 [19:06] <wannabemac> There we go
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#3201 [19:10] * |Kiikun|Janus| [|Kiikun|Janus|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3202 [19:10] <|Kiikun|Janus|> bleck.
#3203 [19:15] <wannabemac> ?
#3204 [19:15] <|Kiikun|Janus|> just got home for work :/
#3205 [19:15] <wannabemac> lol
#3206 [19:16] <wannabemac> being in high school ... life is so easy
#3207 [19:17] <wannabemac> so easy...
#3208 [19:17] <|Kiikun|Janus|> yes. emjoy it while it lasts. and dont drop out... and go to college
#3209 [19:17] <wannabemac> i do plan on it
#3210 [19:17] <|Kiikun|Janus|> and TRY to get a job in your field, even if it means MORE COLLEGE
#3211 [19:17] <wannabemac> lol
#3212 [19:18] <wannabemac> very true
#3213 [19:18] <|Kiikun|Janus|> oh.. and dont copout by getting a psychology or liberal arts associates..
#3214 [19:18] <wannabemac> i guess im getting lectured
#3215 [19:19] <|Kiikun|Janus|> sorry :P
#3216 [19:19] <wannabemac> its fine xD
#3217 [19:19] <|Kiikun|Janus|> annoying day
#3218 [19:19] <wannabemac> i dont mind
#3219 [19:20] * |Kiikun| curses at comp chair too
#3219 [19:20] <wannabemac> lol
#3220 [19:20] <|Kiikun|> damned thing keeps sinking on me
#3221 [19:20] <wannabemac> brb
#3222 [19:21] <XWLPenguin> I've done everything and the game still isn't working :(
#3223 [19:23] <wannabemac> brb
#3224 [19:23] <wannabemac> .
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#3227 [19:28] <ChrissyNx> Forgotten my password to login to minecraft.net and when requesting an email to reset it I don't get one, my username is IVIinecraftx, pretty vague but i hope someone can help ?
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#3231 [19:29] <Ash1205> can someone help me please? on minecraft classic it wont let me connect to any server its been like this for 2 days it was fine before...
#3232 [19:30] <Ash1205> i got the full game but im playing classic multiplayer atm with friends and its not letting me connect to any server, it says its probably down when it isnt...
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#3234 [19:31] <Ash1205> ?????
#3235 [19:31] <wannabemac> .
#3236 [19:31] <Ash1205> wtf this is supposed to be help?
#3237 [19:32] <wannabemac> Give me a second.
#3238 [19:32] <wannabemac> how do you know it didnt go down
#3239 [19:33] <Ash1205> my friends are on it at the moment, and ive tryed 4 others, on my minecraft classic client and in browser
#3240 [19:33] <Ash1205> and it says on the browser page that theres people on each of them
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#3242 [19:34] <wannabemac> Have you been able to connect in the past?
#3243 [19:34] <Ash1205> yep, the 2 days before i was playing it all fine
#3244 [19:34] <Ash1205> and now all of a sudden it says failed to connect server is most probably down
#3245 [19:36] <wannabemac> Is it possible your firewall is blocking it?
#3246 [19:36] <Ash1205> i turned off my firewall then tryed it, and it still wont work
#3247 [19:37] <Ash1205> ive got virus protection on still but i cant see that blocking it, and even if it did, it would pop-up
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#3249 [19:38] <wannabemac> Do you have windows firewall on?
#3250 [19:38] <Ash1205> currently, yes, but i mean i've turned it off completely and tryed
#3251 [19:39] <Ash1205> and it never worked
#3252 [19:39] <wannabemac> hmm
#3253 [19:39] <wannabemac> Is the server that you are trying to connect you blocking you?
#3254 [19:40] <Ash1205> nope, as i said ive tryed many of the servers from the list
#3255 [19:40] <Ash1205> and none of them will connect
#3256 [19:44] <Ash1205> ffs why doesnt anyone help in here, its supposed to be a help IRC
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#3258 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Nobody here is paid to help. We don't sit here 24/7, waiting for others to come on with their problems. We are not Mojang, we do not get paid by them. The volunteers here, volunteer their time to help out others out of the kindness of their own heart.
#3259 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Many of us have lives to attend to as well.
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#3262 [19:47] <wannabemac> Hello.
#3263 [19:49] <Ash1205> no-one helps.
#3264 [19:49] <Ash1205> ive been on here past 3 days
#3265 [19:49] <Ash1205> and no-one can solve it
#3266 [19:49] <clarjon1> I thought that the problem started 2 days ago
#3267 [19:50] <clarjon1> and I would help
#3268 [19:50] <clarjon1> but
#3269 [19:50] <clarjon1> 1) your attitude makes me not want to help
#3270 [19:50] <SushiDude> Ash1205, what is the problem?
#3271 [19:50] <clarjon1> and 2)
#3272 [19:50] <clarjon1> I have no experience with the Classic servers
#3273 [19:50] <SushiDude> oh
#3274 [19:50] <clarjon1> i joined on with the Survival minecraft
#3275 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Many of us have simply dropped support for classic in the first place. It's outdated, it's not supported by Mojang anymore, and those that can help, have no inclination to do so since they've long since moved onto Minecraft Premium
#3276 [19:50] <clarjon1> mhm
#3277 [19:50] <clarjon1> All i know about Classic is that it's the inspiration for the Creative mode.
#3278 [19:51] <SushiDude> Ash1205, why are you on classic anyway?
#3279 [19:51] <clarjon1> heh
#3280 [19:51] <clarjon1> He's using the FREE version of the game, and expecting PAID level support :P
#3281 [19:51] <Ash1205> i have the paid game also,
#3282 [19:51] <Ash1205> im playing classic as some friends are
#3283 [19:51] <Ash1205> it was working days back
#3284 [19:51] <clarjon1> Ash1205: Did you try another computer?
#3285 [19:51] <clarjon1> Ash1205: Clearing your cache?
#3286 [19:51] <clarjon1> another browser?
#3287 [19:51] <Ash1205> and its suddenely stopped working, it says failing to connect on any server i attempt
#3288 [19:52] <clarjon1> idk, i never played Classic
#3289 [19:52] <SushiDude> buy them minecraft for the holidays =P
#3290 [19:52] <Ash1205> havent got any other computer, i cleared my browsing data
#3291 [19:52] <Ash1205> and turned of my firewall
#3292 [19:52] <Ash1205> not sure what else to do
#3293 [19:52] <clarjon1> Ash1205: Did you try another web browser
#3294 [19:52] <Ash1205> :(
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#3298 [19:52] <Ash1205> im using chrome atm and i tryed internet explorer
#3299 [19:52] <clarjon1> welp, i'm out of ideas.
#3300 [19:53] <SushiDude> Turning off your firewall is not a good idea =/
#3301 [19:53] <Ash1205> i began playing it from the world of minecraft client
#3302 [19:53] <clarjon1> ew.
#3303 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> An unofficial, unsupported third party client...
#3304 [19:53] <clarjon1> Ash1205: Then go talk to the WoM people for support.
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#3306 [19:53] <wannabemac> LOL
#3307 [19:54] <Ash1205> im trying it off minecraft.net atm
#3308 [19:54] <Ash1205> and it doesnt work
#3309 [19:54] <clarjon1> Ash1205: did you clear your %appdata%\.minecraft folder yet?
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#3311 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> classic doesn't store files there
#3312 [19:54] <Escherial> hey, does anyone happen to know how i can continue to use the minecraft launcher, yet somehow specify different arguments to java when minecraft starts up?
#3313 [19:54] <clarjon1> no?
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#3315 [19:54] <Ash1205> nope =-S
#3316 [19:54] <clarjon1> where does it store files?
#3317 [19:54] <Escherial> or is it an either/or proposition? :\
#3318 [19:54] <wannabemac> Should I tell them?
#3319 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> browser's temp folder
#3320 [19:55] <clarjon1> Ah, i see
#3321 [19:55] <clarjon1> Ash1205: It could also be your ISP derping.
#3322 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> on IE, windows, it's %temp%/www.minecraft.net and %temp/minecraft.net
#3323 [19:55] <Escherial> to give some backstory, i'm having an issue where minecraft randomly becomes extremely unresponsive and it's not the lag spike of death (already using optifine to deal with that)
#3324 [19:55] <Ash1205> im actually running from an off-shore IP atm just incase
#3325 [19:55] <Ash1205> and it wont work
#3326 [19:56] <Escherial> i think it has something to do with the garbage collector, since this seems to happen somewhere around when minecraft hits the 600mb mark for memory consumption
#3327 [19:56] <Ash1205> i've deleted my browsing history i dont know if anything else needs to be deleted.
#3328 [19:56] <SushiDude> Escherial, are you running the latest version of Java?
#3329 [19:56] <clarjon1> Ash1205: Browsing history is not cache
#3330 [19:56] <Ash1205> whats cache? im a noob xD
#3331 [19:56] <clarjon1> Ash1205: Cache is the temporary files downloaded to your computer so they can be displayed
#3332 [19:56] <clarjon1> Ash1205: eg: pdf, png, jpg, jar, and so forth
#3333 [19:56] <Pwnage> I try to play Minecraft and i press login and when the screen says Mojang, the whole thing freezes then it exits. T_T
#3334 [19:57] <wannabemac> Are you using any mods?
#3335 [19:57] <Escherial> SushiDude: 1.7.0_01
#3336 [19:57] <Ash1205> :o, where do i find my cache?
#3337 [19:57] <Pwnage> Yes
#3338 [19:57] <Escherial> and yes, i'm using optifine as well as hippo's mod loading tool
#3339 [19:57] <SushiDude> hmm
#3340 [19:57] <clarjon1> Escherial: try java 1.6
#3341 [19:57] <SushiDude> ya try 1.6
#3342 [19:57] <clarjon1> 1.7 isn't "prime time" yet
#3343 [19:57] <|Kiikun|> 1.7 is also known to cause issues with minecraft.
#3344 [19:57] <Escherial> i found that it performed better than 1.6 until recently, but alright...
#3345 [19:58] <Escherial> funny how sometimes people tell you that installing java 1.7 will resolve issues with minecraft :) but alright, it's worth a shot, i agree
#3346 [19:58] <Ash1205> clarjon do you have any idea where i can find my cache? :)
#3347 [19:58] <SushiDude> Well 1.7 is not ready yet
#3348 [19:58] <clarjon1> Ash1205: which browser
#3349 [19:58] <Pwnage> Does anybody know y this happens O_O
#3350 [19:59] <Ash1205> ive used both google chrome and internet explorer
#3351 [19:59] <Ash1205> will it be on internet options?
#3352 [19:59] <clarjon1> Ash1205: well it's different for each browser
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#3354 [19:59] <clarjon1> so, which browser do you want instructions for
#3355 [19:59] <SushiDude> Pwnage, what version of java are you on?
#3356 [19:59] <Pwnage> the newest 1
#3357 [20:00] <wannabemac> So Java 7/
#3358 [20:00] <Pwnage> Yes..
#3359 [20:00] <Ash1205> oh, when i delete my browsing history on google chrome its got a box which says empty cache which was allready ticked
#3360 [20:00] <clarjon1> hmmm
#3361 [20:00] <clarjon1> Ash1205: well if cache is being cleared, i dunno what else to suggest
#3362 [20:00] <clarjon1> i've not played Classic you see
#3363 [20:01] <Ash1205> ok thanks for your time
#3364 [20:01] <Escherial> do you think it matters much if i just install the runtime or the sdk as well?
#3365 [20:01] <Escherial> i'd like to install the sdk as i do use java for things other than minecraft :\
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#3367 [20:02] <SushiDude> wait
#3368 [20:02] <wannabemac> Escherial, this is minecraft help, not java help
#3369 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> It shouldn't matter if you install just the runtime, or the SDK
#3370 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> As long as you grab 6 instead of 7, it should be fine.
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#3372 [20:03] <Escherial> sounds good, thank you. i figured it wouldn't make a difference but i thought i'd be sure
#3373 [20:03] <XXXCyrusXXX> Alright I created an account but i cannot play the out dated version
#3374 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> What Operating system are you on?
#3375 [20:04] <XXXCyrusXXX> Windows
#3376 [20:04] <XXXCyrusXXX> Windows 7
#3377 [20:04] <XXXCyrusXXX> Windows 7
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#3379 [20:04] <SushiDude> hmm why do you want to play the outdated version?
#3380 [20:04] <wannabemac> That is what I was thinking...
#3381 [20:05] <SushiDude> it should be as simple as replacing the jars
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#3383 [20:05] <ivyfpop> ok,
#3384 [20:05] <ivyfpop> can anyone help me?
#3385 [20:05] <wannabemac> Sure, what is it?
#3386 [20:05] <ivyfpop> I have purchased premium.
#3387 [20:05] <wannabemac> Okay.
#3388 [20:05] <ivyfpop> I go to the download section.
#3389 [20:05] <ivyfpop> i downloaded under "windows.
#3390 [20:06] <ivyfpop> I opened up the launcher, and type in my username and pass.
#3391 [20:06] <wannabemac> Okay.
#3392 [20:06] <ivyfpop> It says "invalid" and retry, play offline (Not pressable), and then under both buttons. "not downloaded.
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#3394 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> invalid what?
#3395 [20:07] <ivyfpop> Want me to post a picture?
#3396 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Please do
#3397 [20:07] <Chichola> Big question incoming.
#3398 [20:07] <Chichola> Okay so every 5 or 10 minutes i'll hit an unplayable burst of fps lag causing me to have to close and reopen my minecraft client. I have a realtek network adapater built into my motherboard which does give me a few currently unfixable issues. I also bought a card that turns out was also made by realtek (yet doesnt mention it at all on the packaging) though im unsure if the realtek situation is what's causing this lag. Als
#3399 [20:07] <SushiDude> realtek is evil
#3400 [20:07] <Chichola> Tell me about it.
#3401 [20:07] <Chichola> Lol
#3402 [20:07] <wannabemac> Lol
#3403 [20:07] <Escherial> Chichola: i assume this is only in multiplayer, then?
#3404 [20:08] <Chichola> I bought a 'TP-Link' card and it had a realtek chip in it.
#3405 [20:08] <wannabemac> Crap, I do believe my card is realtek.
#3406 [20:08] <SushiDude> Lucky Linux v3.0 fixed a ton of realtek issues
#3407 [20:08] <SushiDude> =)
#3408 [20:08] <Chichola> And escherial, i dont play singe player often enough to notice the issues on there, so yes im assuming.
#3409 [20:08] <ivyfpop> Ok, I'm going to post it in a few seconds. :)
#3410 [20:08] <EpicWinz> when i log in into minecraft and press login, and when the screen says Mojang, the screen freezes and minecraft closes...
#3411 [20:08] <ivyfpop> What does the start by peoples names mean.
#3412 [20:09] <SushiDude> EpicWinz, what version of java are you running?
#3413 [20:09] <wannabemac> Lol, my linux got messed up.
#3414 [20:09] <EpicWinz> 1.7?
#3415 [20:09] <wannabemac> So sad, so sad.
#3416 [20:09] <EpicWinz> the newest one?
#3417 [20:09] <SushiDude> use 1.6
#3418 [20:09] <EpicWinz> Ok...
#3419 [20:09] <SushiDude> 1.7 is not ready
#3420 [20:09] <EpicWinz> Kk
#3421 [20:10] <Escherial> Chichola: if you want to exclude your network card from the picture, try playing singleplayer and seeing if the issue crops up :)
#3422 [20:10] * SushiDude points at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenJDK
#3422 [20:10] <EpicWinz> Thanks, i'll try tht :)
#3423 [20:10] <Escherial> also, currently testing to see if 1.6 fixes my similar issue with bouts of incredible lag
#3424 [20:10] <Chichola> Will do.
#3425 [20:10] <SushiDude> notice how there is no stable build.
#3426 [20:11] <ivyfpop> http://miburl.com/gMehwE
#3427 [20:11] <ivyfpop> Thats my problem.
#3428 [20:11] <SushiDude> ivyfpop, you typed your username/password wrong
#3429 [20:11] <SushiDude> or the minecraft.net servers are down
#3430 [20:11] <SushiDude> What is with people using 1.7 =/
#3431 [20:11] <wannabemac> They arent down
#3432 [20:12] <SushiDude> okay then
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#3434 [20:12] <SushiDude> you must have typed it wrong
#3435 [20:12] <ivyfpop> So, why does it say, "not installed" under it>?
#3436 [20:12] <Escherial> just got hit with the same incredible lag issue, using 1.6 now...javaw.exe is at 665,940 K of memory usage, so i'm not sure if that's significant
#3437 [20:12] <ivyfpop> "not downloaded" *
#3438 [20:12] <Escherial> it always seems to crash when i hit around there
#3439 [20:12] <Escherial> i'm guessing the garbage collector suddenly decided to get busy or something
#3440 [20:13] <SushiDude> hmm
#3441 [20:13] <ivyfpop> Anyone help me?
#3442 [20:13] <XXXCyrusXXX> I dont understand, Windows 7, i got Java but when i play outdated, it still doesnt work? What do i do?
#3443 [20:13] <SushiDude> ivyfpop, because you have not logged in
#3444 [20:14] <EpicWinz> I tried downloading java and tried to open minecraft but the same thing happened
#3445 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> ivyfpop - The thing you downloaded from the website is just the launcher. It contains no actual game files, hence why it says "Not downloaded"
#3446 [20:14] <ivyfpop> I use same log in and pass on "minecraft.net"
#3447 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> It only downloads the game files upon a successful login of a premium account
#3448 [20:14] <ivyfpop> Where do I get the actual download?
#3449 [20:14] <SushiDude> XXXCyrusXXX, wait, do you mean classic?
#3450 [20:14] <clarjon1> ivyfpop: you pay for the game.
#3451 [20:14] <ivyfpop> I payed for it.
#3452 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> ivyfpop - Try changing your password at minecraft.net/profile and log in again
#3453 [20:15] <ivyfpop> On my account on Minecraft.net I have premium
#3454 [20:15] <XXXCyrusXXX> Yes CLassic, I loged in too.
#3455 [20:15] <SushiDude> oh classic
#3456 [20:15] <SushiDude> I have no idea
#3457 [20:15] <SushiDude> why would you play classic??
#3458 [20:15] <EpicWinz> Can anyone help me?
#3459 [20:15] <ivyfpop> Thanks alot guys. :)
#3460 [20:15] <ivyfpop> Fixed it.
#3461 [20:16] <XXXCyrusXXX> I didnt buy the game, i was going to but no store had it
#3462 [20:16] <ivyfpop> I already changed pass, I forgot what I changed to.
#3463 [20:16] <SushiDude> XXXCyrusXXX, no store?
#3464 [20:16] <ivyfpop> Can 2 accounts with same user and pass play at same time.
#3465 [20:16] <ivyfpop> Not including offline?
#3466 [20:16] <XXXCyrusXXX> Nope
#3467 [20:16] <SushiDude> minecraft is not sold at stores
#3468 [20:16] <SushiDude> it is sold at http://www.minecraft.net/
#3469 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> ivyfpop - No
#3470 [20:17] <ivyfpop> ok, thanks.
#3471 [20:17] <XXXCyrusXXX> -_- darn, no paypal
#3472 [20:17] <ivyfpop> Also, again why do people have the yellow stars by their names?
#3473 [20:17] <wannabemac> ?
#3474 [20:17] <SushiDude> they are voice
#3475 [20:17] <SushiDude> d
#3476 [20:17] <SushiDude> or opped
#3477 [20:17] <wannabemac> They are ops
#3478 [20:18] <XXXCyrusXXX> So in order to play Classic, i still need the game?
#3479 [20:18] <SushiDude> Buy the game
#3480 [20:18] <SushiDude> don't play classic
#3481 [20:18] <XXXCyrusXXX> Alright,
#3482 [20:19] <XXXCyrusXXX> Gotta go.......................
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#3484 [20:19] <SushiDude> Oh cool
#3485 [20:19] <SushiDude> the bot auto mutes people
#3486 [20:20] <ivyfpop> What just happeneD?
#3487 [20:20] <SushiDude> ?
#3488 [20:20] <wannabemac> It does?
#3489 [20:20] <wannabemac> That is cool
#3490 [20:20] <ivyfpop> who is voxelHead
#3491 [20:20] <wannabemac> ?? Bot
#3492 [20:20] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#3493 [20:21] <ivyfpop> lol?
#3494 [20:21] <wannabemac> it is a bot
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#3496 [20:21] <ivyfpop> voxelHead is a bot?
#3497 [20:21] <wannabemac> Yes
#3498 [20:21] <ivyfpop> Thats the coolest name ever though. :P
#3499 [20:22] <wannabemac> lol
#3500 [20:25] <SushiDude> and the channel is dead
#3501 [20:25] <SushiDude> =P
#3502 [20:25] <wannabemac> No.
#3503 [20:25] <wannabemac> That is good.
#3504 [20:25] <wannabemac> Quiet is good.
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#3506 [20:30] <Chichola> Escherial: Played for about 15-20 minutes in singe player and then randomly hit the huge fps lag and could barely turn my player, as always. So i guess that rules out the network card being the issue?
#3507 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#3508 [20:30] <wannabemac> ?? faq
#3509 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> Probably java or video drivers
#3510 [20:30] <wannabemac> ?? index
#3511 [20:30] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#3512 [20:31] <Chichola> Java is on jre6
#3513 [20:31] <Chichola> Nvidia drivers should be up to date.
#3514 [20:31] <wannabemac> Nvidia is nice...
#3515 [20:31] <SushiDude> Chichola, do you use any mods?
#3516 [20:31] <SushiDude> wannabemac, yes, yes it is
#3517 [20:32] * |Kiikun| crys
#3517 [20:32] <wannabemac> What is it Kiikun/
#3518 [20:32] <SushiDude> |Kiikun|, what is it?
#3519 [20:32] * |Kiikun| died by spikes in minicraft cave
#3519 [20:32] <wannabemac> you dont have nvidia?
#3520 [20:32] <wannabemac> oh
#3521 [20:32] <SushiDude> lol
#3522 [20:32] <wannabemac> Lol
#3523 [20:32] <Chichola> I do. The server i play on has a hacking protection system as a mod for the minecraft.jar
#3524 [20:32] <wannabemac> I need to try minicraft, i was going to
#3525 [20:32] <wannabemac> What are you talking about
#3526 [20:32] <SushiDude> Chichola, wait, a client side cheating protection system?
#3527 [20:32] <wannabemac> That sounds like a password stealer
#3528 [20:32] <SushiDude> that is a joke
#3529 [20:33] <Chichola> Also, improved chat and rei's minimap.
#3530 [20:33] <SushiDude> That is so funny, client side protection
#3531 [20:33] <wannabemac> Crap, Just saw outside the IRC client that a creeper was sneaking up o nme
#3532 [20:33] <Chichola> It sends details about the players mod's back to the server to see if they're using anything illegal.
#3533 [20:33] <wannabemac> That sounds like a password stealer
#3534 [20:33] <Chichola> If it was a password stealer, my account and many others would have been stolen by now.
#3535 [20:34] <Chichola> It's trustworthy.
#3536 [20:34] <SushiDude> Chichola, you can't have client side protection
#3537 [20:34] <wannabemac> I would not trust it, but that is just me.
#3538 [20:34] <SushiDude> you can never trust the client
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#3540 [20:34] <Chichola> It isnt 'protection', it just tells the server owners if im using any xray mods or anything so they can ban me, lol.
#3541 [20:35] <SushiDude> well that does not work
#3542 [20:35] <wannabemac> That is dangerous, i would not trust it.
#3543 [20:35] <SushiDude> the client can always lie
#3544 [20:35] <wannabemac> And why would you want them to know.
#3545 [20:35] <SushiDude> you need to lie to client
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#3547 [20:35] <wannabemac> Force update
#3548 [20:35] <wannabemac> Then reinstall your mods
#3549 [20:35] <Chichola> Disregard this mod because really it isn't something i need to worry about.
#3550 [20:35] <SushiDude> Well it seems useless
#3551 [20:35] <wannabemac> Whatever you say...
#3552 [20:36] <Chichola> It may be, but it's how they run.
#3553 [20:36] <SushiDude> It does not provide any protection to the server at all
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#3555 [20:36] <Chichola> AusMC.net, look it up.
#3556 [20:36] <wannabemac> What server is it?
#3557 [20:36] <wannabemac> I am going to go check it out.
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#3559 [20:36] <Chichola> Click the 'CAH' option at the top of the forum
#3560 [20:36] <Chichola> It explains it.
#3561 [20:36] <Chichola> But anyway
#3562 [20:36] <wannabemac> Can I just have the ip please?
#3563 [20:36] <Chichola> mc.ausmc.net
#3564 [20:37] <wannabemac> Thanks
#3565 [20:37] <Chichola> It's not required
#3566 [20:37] <mib_azkbdi> my graphics card isnt working what does that mean and how do i fix it?
#3567 [20:37] <Chichola> It's optional to have.
#3568 [20:37] <Chichola> Back to the lag
#3569 [20:37] <wannabemac> Your graphics card has to be working.
#3570 [20:37] <Chichola> Would the mods on my jar be causing it? Should i force update and play with no mods and see if that does it?
#3571 [20:37] <SushiDude> mib_azkbdi, what kernel are you using and what type of card is it?
#3572 [20:38] <wannabemac> I would get rid of it it sounds sketchy
#3573 [20:38] <mib_azkbdi> i have no clue
#3574 [20:38] <SushiDude> well go check
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#3576 [20:39] <amphibulus> hello?
#3577 [20:39] <SushiDude> hi
#3578 [20:39] <amphibulus> so this is for minecraft related errors?
#3579 [20:39] <Chichola> Any other idea's as to what could be causing the lag
#3580 [20:40] <SushiDude> not really
#3581 [20:40] <SushiDude> you should try spoutcraft and see if it works better
#3582 [20:40] <SushiDude> amphibulus, yep
#3583 [20:42] <SushiDude> mib_azkbdi, If you are on a UNIX/UNIX-Like system you can just issue "lspci" to the command line. For Windows I think you run "dxdiag" to get that sort of info.
#3584 [20:42] <amphibulus> mk i got the error code it gives
#3585 [20:42] <amphibulus> but basicly it gives it to me after where i would normal be seeing mojang
#3586 [20:42] <mib_azkbdi> hold on im updateing windows
#3587 [20:42] <SushiDude> oh
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#3589 [20:43] <SushiDude> so you are using Windows
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#3591 [20:43] <SushiDude> Well then just run dxdiag and it should tell you all the info you need
#3592 [20:44] <Otohamage> my minecraft keeps saying done loading but it doesnt load what should i do?
#3593 [20:45] <SushiDude> hmm
#3594 [20:45] <SushiDude> do you have any mods?
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#3596 [20:45] <SushiDude> and what version of Java are you using?
#3597 [20:45] <Otohamage> im have no mods and java 6
#3598 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> Otohamage - Has it ever worked before?
#3599 [20:46] <Otohamage> yea
#3600 [20:46] <SushiDude> hmm
#3601 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Otohamage - Operating system?
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#3603 [20:46] <Otohamage> it keeps freezeing at loading part
#3604 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Otohamage - You said that already. What operating system are you on?
#3605 [20:47] <blue_berry> I played minecraft in singleplayer mode in my own world, but I have met other people. Are they real or just like the cows and other animals?
#3606 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> blue_berry - In single player, there are no other people
#3607 [20:47] <Otohamage> none
#3608 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Just NPCs.
#3609 [20:47] <Escherial> is there any way to continue to use the minecraft launcher, yet customize the amount of memory java uses?
#3610 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Escherial - Yes
#3611 [20:47] <blue_berry> GreyVulpine: What are NPCs?
#3612 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> blue_berry - Non-Player Characters
#3613 [20:47] <Escherial> GreyVulpine: do tell :3
#3614 [20:48] <zkxs> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Villager
#3615 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> Escherial - batch file or shell script, send custom memory arguments to it
#3616 [20:48] <blue_berry> GreyVulpine: Thanks! What are they for?
#3617 [20:48] <SushiDude> Escherial, yes just give java the arguments when you launch the launcher
#3618 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> blue_berry - They do absolutely nothing right now
#3619 [20:48] <Escherial> huh, and that'll pass it along to minecraft when it starts? do they run in the same instance?
#3620 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> Otohamage - Are you on Windows? MacOS? Linux?
#3621 [20:49] <blue_berry> GreyVulpine: THey seem to have built a village in my world. Can they change things that I have built?
#3622 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Escherial - Operating system?
#3623 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> blue_berry - No.
#3624 [20:49] <Escherial> GreyVulpine: windows, sadly
#3625 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> The villages are pre-built.
#3626 [20:49] <SushiDude> Minecraft is a Java program, unless it is driver issues I don't see the point in asking for their OS.
#3627 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Escherial - See http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh for an example
#3628 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> -Xms is starting heap size, -Xmx is max heap size
#3629 [20:50] <blue_berry> GreyVulpine: Thanks! for your help! I understand.
#3630 [20:50] <wannabemac> just realized i have been afk for 20 minuets
#3631 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Otohamage - You still there?
#3632 [20:51] <Escherial> i recall also that there's some way to change the garbage collector's strategy to free things regularly...is that right?
#3633 [20:51] <Escherial> GreyVulpine: i appreciate all the help thus far, by the way :)
#3634 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, can't remember the arguement..
#3635 [20:52] <SushiDude> What happened to "man java"
#3636 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> Ah, it's -Xincgc -- enables the incremental garbage collection
#3637 [20:53] <Escherial> aha, thanks! :D
#3638 [20:53] <Eddie> <SushiDude> What happened to "man java"
#3639 [20:53] <Eddie> Try "woman java"
#3640 [20:53] <Escherial> i'll try it without for a while and see if just limiting the amount of ram helps
#3641 [20:54] <SushiDude> man java | grep garbage -A5 | less
#3642 [20:54] <SushiDude> =P
#3643 [20:54] <Escherial> strangely, java.exe's at 506mb of consumed ram now even though i'm using the command you pasted verbatim
#3644 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Heh, it shouldn't be...
#3645 [20:54] <wannabemac> Wait what are we talking abuot
#3646 [20:54] * Wug
#3646 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Setting -Xms/-Xmx, and java's garbage colllection
#3647 [20:54] * GreyVulpine wugs Wug
#3647 [20:54] <wannabemac> Oh, ok.
#3648 [20:55] * wannabemac is quite unsure of what to say
#3648 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Otohamage - Hello? You still there?
#3649 [20:55] <Wug> that might be the amount of virtual memory it is using
#3650 [20:55] <SushiDude> Wug!
#3651 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Guy just comes on, and quits right in the middle of me trying to get information from him. Blegh.
#3652 [20:56] <wannabemac[afk]> Wug!
#3653 [20:56] <SushiDude> Hows it going =P
#3654 [20:57] <Wug> <3
#3655 [20:57] <Escherial> out of curiosity, do any of you feel bad for removing the source block to a majestic underground river?
#3656 [20:57] <Wug> Escherial: I always need them later
#3657 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> I just block the source block
#3658 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Don't actually replace it
#3659 [20:57] <Wug> so I block them off with a dirt block
#3660 [20:57] <SushiDude> I love when they join, post a question, then leave 5 seconds later
#3661 [20:57] <Wug> SushiDude: I know right
#3662 [20:57] <Escherial> mmm, i usually do the same, although sometimes i miss and nail the source block with dirt
#3663 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Happens all the time
#3664 [20:57] <Escherial> or use a bucket and just tell myself to remember the spot
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#3667 [20:58] <Wug> wugbot hasnt freaked out yet, thats good
#3668 [20:58] <Chichola> Sorry, reconnected.
#3669 [20:58] <zkxs> should he be freaking out?
#3670 [20:58] <SushiDude> no =p
#3671 [20:58] <Chichola> Deleted my minecraft folder and played for 10 or so minutes without mods but i still get the lag.
#3672 [20:58] <Wug> he was yesterday. whooo boy
#3673 [20:58] <SushiDude> Chichola, have you tried spoutcraft?
#3674 [20:59] <Wug> he? it? it.
#3675 [20:59] <Chichola> What exactly is spoutcraft?
#3676 [20:59] <zkxs> thon
#3677 [20:59] <SushiDude> It is a client mod
#3678 [20:59] <SushiDude> an awesome one
#3679 [20:59] <SushiDude> let me get the link
#3680 [20:59] <Wug> does a bunch of stuff
#3681 [20:59] <Chichola> cheers.
#3682 [20:59] <SushiDude> http://dev.bukkit.org/client-mods/spoutcraft/
#3683 [21:00] <SushiDude> Make sure under options to use the newer libraries
#3684 [21:00] <SushiDude> and to configure the settings under the in-game options page
#3685 [21:00] <Chichola> I don't think the server i play on uses spoutcraft...
#3686 [21:01] <SushiDude> Servers don't use spoutcraft
#3687 [21:01] <SushiDude> clients do
#3688 [21:01] <SushiDude> servers use spout
#3689 [21:02] <Chichola> I'll run the exe
#3690 [21:02] <zkxs> oO i missed wugbot freaking out D:
#3691 [21:02] <Chichola> And you thought this mod was a password stealer, haha.
#3692 [21:03] <Wug> zkxs: it was only the development version, never the one that was here
#3693 [21:03] <Wug> but it was epic
#3694 [21:03] <Wug> I was working on the flood protection, which is now like 5x better than it was
#3695 [21:04] <SushiDude> Chichola, I did not
#3696 [21:04] <Wug> and it was triggering itself in a loop
#3697 [21:04] <wannabemac> Have you tested it?
#3698 [21:04] <zkxs> muting everyone?
#3699 [21:04] <Chichola> I mean the one i was using previously.
#3700 [21:04] <Chichola> This is a separate client which makes me suspicious
#3701 [21:04] <SushiDude> Chichola, no, it is a client mod
#3702 [21:04] <wannabemac> Wait what are you talking about?
#3703 [21:05] <wannabemac> Wait sput?
#3704 [21:05] <wannabemac> spout*
#3705 [21:05] <wannabemac> I call it SpoutCrash.
#3706 [21:05] <Wug> zkxs: no, I'm not sure why it was happening, but its banning or quieting or whatever was triggering itself on itself
#3707 [21:05] <SushiDude> wannabemac, he does not trust spoutcraft
#3708 [21:05] <Wug> so it would go into a spasmodic self ban fest and flood quit
#3709 [21:05] <wannabemac> Excuse the language, but it is SpoutCrap
#3710 [21:05] <zkxs> lol
#3711 [21:06] <SushiDude> wannabemac, ...
#3712 [21:06] <wannabemac> Just my opinion
#3713 [21:06] <SushiDude> wannabemac, why don't you like it?
#3714 [21:06] <Chichola> SushiDude, any specific settings you'd reccommend?
#3715 [21:06] <SushiDude> yes
#3716 [21:06] <wannabemac> It a bother, it is laggy, no support for mods.
#3717 [21:06] <SushiDude> wannabemac, it has an API, it is much faster then the normal client
#3718 [21:07] <SushiDude> wannabemac, it has tons more features
#3719 [21:07] <Chichola> 'no support for mods'?
#3720 [21:07] <SushiDude> wannabemac, and it a crap load for stable
#3721 [21:07] <SushiDude> Chichola, the API is almost done
#3722 [21:07] <Chichola> :\
#3723 [21:07] <wannabemac> Whatever you say.
#3724 [21:07] <wannabemac> But I cant have my fly mod.
#3725 [21:07] <wannabemac> Or my xray.
#3726 [21:08] <wannabemac> Or too many items.
#3727 [21:08] <wannabemac> Or world downloader, or autoswitch...
#3728 [21:08] <SushiDude> Chichola, at was at first made for servers
#3729 [21:08] <SushiDude> wannabemac, wait for the API
#3730 [21:08] <SushiDude> wannabemac, it will be done soon
#3731 [21:08] <wannabemac> fine, I will go ahead and try it.
#3732 [21:09] <Escherial> well, java's at 700mb now and it still hasn't crashed, so i assume it's doing other stuff with that memory...?
#3733 [21:09] <SushiDude> wannabemac, wait, you have never even used it?
#3734 [21:09] <wannabemac> I did, I toke 10 minutes to log into a server.
#3735 [21:09] <PullTab> I want teh Minecraft on Teh Xbox, & no kinect!!
#3736 [21:10] <SushiDude> wannabemac, what?
#3737 [21:10] <SushiDude> PullTab, great for you.
#3738 [21:10] <PullTab> k
#3739 [21:10] <wannabemac> it toke 10 minutes to log into a server with it
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#3741 [21:10] <Wug> that sounds like a bogostatistic
#3742 [21:10] <Wug> 10 minutes is a little long
#3743 [21:10] <SushiDude> that sounds like a server error
#3744 [21:10] <wannabemac> I hate snezzing when I am typing.
#3745 [21:11] <wannabemac> Wait wtf.
#3746 [21:11] <wannabemac> Did that just wipe my minecraft folder?
#3747 [21:11] <SushiDude> no -_-
#3748 [21:11] <Chichola> Sushidude, is there anyway to re-enable the old sprinting animation?
#3749 [21:11] <Chichola> on spoutcraft i mean.
#3750 [21:12] <SushiDude> wannabemac, it uses ~/.spoutcraft
#3751 [21:12] <SushiDude> wannabemac, not ~/.minecraft
#3752 [21:12] <wannabemac> It talked about minecraft files but whatever
#3753 [21:12] <SushiDude> it makes a new directory to save everything
#3754 [21:13] <wannabemac> lets see
#3755 [21:13] <PullTab> When will I get my Minecraft on my xbox?
#3756 [21:14] <SushiDude> PullTab, when it is ready and you buy it
#3757 [21:14] <Wug> PullTab: not sure
#3758 [21:14] <PullTab> k
#3759 [21:14] <Wug> there isnt much out there about a release date or anything. sit tight
#3760 [21:15] <Chichola> SushiDude, Is it possible to get the old sprinting animation back in spoutcraft?
#3761 [21:15] <SushiDude> not yet
#3762 [21:15] <SushiDude> once the api is done
#3763 [21:15] <SushiDude> yes it will
#3764 [21:15] <Chichola> ETA on that?
#3765 [21:16] <SushiDude> it will be about a month until the API is done
#3766 [21:16] <Chichola> Sweet.
#3767 [21:17] <wannabemac> Well, I am deleting spout.
#3768 [21:17] <SushiDude> wait what?
#3769 [21:17] <SushiDude> so you like spoutcraft
#3770 [21:17] <SushiDude> but not spout
#3771 [21:20] <wannabemac> Spoutcraft...
#3772 [21:20] <SushiDude> spout is a plugin
#3773 [21:20] <SushiDude> spoutcraft is a mod
#3774 [21:21] <SushiDude> do not mess them up
#3775 [21:21] <wannabemac> I am done with spoutcraft.
#3776 [21:22] <SushiDude> Great for you
#3777 [21:22] <wannabemac> lol
#3778 [21:22] <Chichola> I can easily say spoutcraft improved my minecraft, but the lack of mods puts me off. Back to original mc for now.
#3779 [21:24] <SushiDude> You really need to use spoutcraft for some time before you find all the features
#3780 [21:24] <SushiDude> because there are so many
#3781 [21:24] <SushiDude> but yes, the lack of mods is annoying
#3782 [21:24] <wannabemac> Ill see about it, but until I can use mods, I am done, I need zombe.
#3783 [21:24] <Boreeas> Can we get back on topic now? <.<
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#3785 [21:24] <wannabemac> Of course.
#3786 [21:24] <wannabemac> What do you need?
#3787 [21:25] <mib_rkz9qx> i need help
#3788 [21:25] <wannabemac> Okay, What is the problem?
#3789 [21:25] <Boreeas> Nothing, but getting this channel spammed for idk-how-many lines with non-related talk is annoying
#3790 [21:25] <Boreeas> mib_rkz9qx: Alright, how can we help you
#3791 [21:25] <Herp> :o
#3792 [21:25] <mib_rkz9qx> when i try to play i get black screen with an x
#3793 [21:25] <Boreeas> Herp: :OO
#3794 [21:25] <Boreeas> mib_rkz9qx: What error do you get exactly?
#3795 [21:26] <mib_rkz9qx> none just a blank black screen
#3796 [21:26] <Boreeas> mib_rkz9qx: What version of java do you have?
#3797 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> In your browser? Client? Are you playing Classic or Premium?
#3798 [21:26] <mib_rkz9qx> idk i would have to check
#3799 [21:27] <Boreeas> ??> mib_rkz9qx java/version | Also, what GreyVulpine said
#3800 [21:27] <Boreeas> :|
#3801 [21:27] <Boreeas> ?> mib_rkz9qx java/version
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#3803 [21:28] * Boreeas needs sleep
#3803 [21:28] <wannabemac> It is 2 question marks...
#3804 [21:28] <Boreeas> wannabemac: I do realize
#3805 [21:28] <wannabemac> lol
#3806 [21:28] * GreyVulpine needs a drink.
#3806 [21:28] <Boreeas> ??> mib_rkz9qx java/version
#3807 [21:28] <VoxelHead> mib_rkz9qx: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#3808 [21:28] <wannabemac> ?? help
#3809 [21:28] <VoxelHead> mib_rkz9qx: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#3810 [21:28] <VoxelHead> help: To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#3811 [21:28] <VoxelHead> help: For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#3812 [21:28] * |Kiikun| offere GreyVulpine some eggnog
#3812 [21:28] * wannabemac wants some too
#3812 [21:29] <SushiDude> hmm
#3813 [21:29] <SushiDude> Who even have Java enabled on the browser
#3814 [21:29] * GreyVulpine conveniently adds some 'holiday cheer' to said eggnog.
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#3815 [21:29] <SushiDude> it is such a big security hole
#3816 [21:29] <smurf> i need help
#3817 [21:29] <SushiDude> has*
#3818 [21:29] <wannabemac> What do you need?
#3819 [21:29] <Boreeas> SushiDude: Inconvenient for most people to turn off
#3820 [21:30] <Boreeas> SushiDude: As they don't really notice it
#3821 [21:30] <smurf> i cant play i get a blank black screen
#3822 [21:30] <SushiDude> Inconvenient for most people to get viruses =P
#3823 [21:30] <SushiDude> smurf, what version of java do you have?
#3824 [21:30] <SushiDude> smurf, do you have any mods?
#3825 [21:30] <wannabemac> Are you using minecraft classic, the full version, in browser or downloaded?
#3826 [21:31] <smurf> idk on jave.. no mods... and in browser
#3827 [21:31] <smurf> *java
#3828 [21:31] <wannabemac> Does your browser have java enabled?
#3829 [21:31] <smurf> how do you tell?
#3830 [21:31] <SushiDude> This is going to be so ironic
#3831 [21:32] * kodemaan [kodemaan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3832 [21:32] <SushiDude> smurf, about:plugins
#3833 [21:32] <Boreeas> smurf: Did you turn it off?
#3834 [21:32] <SushiDude> or http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/
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#3836 [21:33] <wannabemac> So many people helping one person
#3837 [21:34] <smurf> im confused
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#3839 [21:35] <stomper> just bought the game but it says that i didnt buy premium which i did
#3840 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> ??> stomper payment
#3841 [21:35] <VoxelHead> stomper: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#3842 [21:35] <VoxelHead> stomper: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#3843 [21:35] <smurf> okay it says i have a good version of java and its running
#3844 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> smurf - What version of java exactly are you running?
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#3846 [21:37] <smurf> 1.6.0.30
#3847 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> smurf - And what address are you going to in the browser?
#3848 [21:39] <smurf> when i get the blank screen?
#3849 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3850 [21:39] <smurf> http://www.minecraft.net/play
#3851 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> Has minecraft ever worked before for you?
#3852 [21:39] <smurf> no
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#3854 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Could you go back to www.minecraft.net/play, when you get the black screen again, look in your system tray by your clock for a white coffee cup icon.
#3855 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Right click on that white coffee cup icon and go to the java console. Copy everything in that console and paste it at www.pastebin.com, then submit it
#3856 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Give us the http:// address after you've submitted it at pastebin
#3857 [21:41] <smurf> but i dont have the coffe cup
#3858 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Did you go to minecraft.net/play?
#3859 [21:42] <smurf> ye im theit
#3860 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Does the java applet start to run, and give you the black screen?
#3861 [21:43] <smurf> no it goes straight to black screen
#3862 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Do you see a white coffee cup icon next to your system clock in the lower right?
#3863 [21:44] <smurf> their isnt one
#3864 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> You sure?
#3865 [21:46] <smurf> ya ive looked everywhere
#3866 [21:46] <SushiDude> Maybe you should try the out of browser client
#3867 [21:47] <smurf> ill try will quick
#3868 [21:47] <wannabemac> talking in teamspeak and looking at a irc at the same time is hard
#3869 [21:47] <SushiDude> lol
#3870 [21:48] <smurf> same thing happend
#3871 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> smurf - You're on windows, yes?
#3872 [21:48] <smurf> yes
#3873 [21:48] <smurf> windows 8
#3874 [21:48] <wannabemac> lol wut
#3875 [21:48] <smurf> *7
#3876 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> Does your windows username happen to contain an exclaimation mark (!) in it?
#3877 [21:49] <WugBot> GreyVulpine: (mb/support) If you paid with a credit card (via moneybookers) and money has cleared your account but your account status has not been updated, you may need to contact MoneyBookers support.
#3878 [21:49] <WugBot> GreyVulpine: (mb/support) MoneyBookers support can be reached at us-service@moneybookers.com (Make sure to include as much information as possible)
#3879 [21:49] <wannabemac> lol
#3880 [21:49] * GreyVulpine stabs Wugbot
#3880 [21:49] <Wug> uhh
#3881 [21:49] * GreyVulpine stabs Wug
#3881 [21:49] <Wug> ;af-removestring ! Does your windows username happen to contain an exclaimation mark (!) in it
#3882 [21:49] <WugBot> "does your windows username happen to contain an exclaimation mark in it" removed from entry for "!".
#3883 [21:49] <smurf> no
#3884 [21:49] * wannabemac puts wugbot in the closet with the skeleton
#3884 [21:49] <Wug> Does your windows username happen to contain an exclaimation mark (!) in it
#3885 [21:49] <WugBot> Wug: (!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#3886 [21:49] <WugBot> Wug: (!) Special Character Workaround: http://wug.me/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work (though it usually does). Must be run as admin on vista/7.
#3887 [21:49] <Wug> ....
#3888 [21:49] * Wug induces death
#3888 [21:49] * wannabemac and wug while he is at it
#3888 [21:50] <Wug> ;af-disable
#3889 [21:50] <WugBot> Disabled autofactoids in #minecrafthelp
#3890 [21:50] <wannabemac> Use a program to gain root access.
#3891 [21:50] <wannabemac> That is a solution.
#3892 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> smurf - Could you double check that? Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#3893 [21:50] <Wug> of course it was a totally different factoid
#3894 [21:50] <SushiDude> wannabemac, what?
#3895 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Press enter, tell me if the folder name there has a ! mark in it
#3896 [21:51] <wannabemac> You can download a program on your windows computer when you are not a adminstrator to gain root access.
#3897 [21:51] <SushiDude> wannabemac, you mean an exploit?
#3898 [21:51] <wannabemac> pretty much
#3899 [21:51] <SushiDude> trololo
#3900 [21:51] <wannabemac> xD
#3901 [21:51] <smurf> nope no !
#3902 [21:52] <wannabemac> I tried to convince my friend to do it to a school computer.
#3903 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> smurf - Could you try an uninstall and reinstall of java
#3904 [21:52] <SushiDude> wannabemac, this is a funny one: http://secunia.com/advisories/47237
#3905 [21:52] <smurf> ya gimmie a sec
#3906 [21:53] <wannabemac> lol SushiDude
#3907 [21:53] <wannabemac> typing that just made me hungry for sushi
#3908 [21:54] <SushiDude> wannabemac, Using an Apple product to exploit Windows =P
#3909 [21:54] <wannabemac> LOL
#3910 [21:54] <wannabemac> Why not use linux
#3911 [21:55] * mib_wx6lhe [mib_wx6lhe@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3912 [21:55] <SushiDude> wannabemac, I do use GNU/Linux =P
#3913 [21:55] <wannabemac> xD
#3914 [21:55] <wannabemac> As I said, my linux toke a dive.
#3915 [21:56] <SushiDude> What did you do?
#3916 [21:57] <wannabemac> When I installed it, the version I downloaded didnt download fully, now am having trouble creating a partition because linux thinks I have several opertaing systems when trying to install one that is fully downloaded
#3917 [21:57] <Boreeas> Threw it in the pool <.<
#3918 [21:58] <mib_wx6lhe> hello?
#3919 [21:58] <mib_wx6lhe> oh, i used to have ubuntu
#3920 [21:58] <mib_wx6lhe> does anyone here play minecraft that can help me with my problem?
#3921 [21:58] <mib_wx6lhe> :s
#3922 [21:58] <wannabemac> What is your problem?
#3923 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> Nope, nobody here plays minecraft
#3924 [21:58] <wannabemac> LOl
#3925 [21:58] <smurf> well i guess i have windows xp
#3926 [21:58] <mib_wx6lhe> minecfaft directed me here to get admin help
#3927 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> What sort of admin help?
#3928 [21:59] <Boreeas> mine what?
#3929 [21:59] <mib_wx6lhe> idk
#3930 [21:59] <SushiDude> wannabemac, this is why you verify the ISO
#3931 [21:59] <mib_wx6lhe> it just said
#3932 [21:59] <Wug> you have no idea what you need?
#3933 [21:59] <mib_wx6lhe> to click the link
#3934 [21:59] <mib_wx6lhe> for customer support
#3935 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> mib_wx6lhe - So then, what is your minecraft issue?
#3936 [21:59] <Boreeas> mib_wx6lhe: So, what error did you get then?
#3937 [21:59] <mib_wx6lhe> when i tried to play,
#3938 [22:00] <mib_wx6lhe> it said that it couldnt start
#3939 [22:00] <Boreeas> mib_wx6lhe: With what error message?
#3940 [22:00] <mib_wx6lhe> it said "A fatal issue has occure (1)
#3941 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> can't load logo and progress bar?
#3942 [22:00] <mib_wx6lhe> it was a three line message
#3943 [22:00] <mib_wx6lhe> i dont remember what it said
#3944 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> What is the exact error, please
#3945 [22:00] <mib_wx6lhe> exactly
#3946 [22:01] <mib_wx6lhe> it said it couldnt load those
#3947 [22:01] <mib_wx6lhe> logo and bar
#3948 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> Then you're playing classic, in the browser, yes?
#3949 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> What operating system and what browser are you playing on?
#3950 [22:01] <mib_wx6lhe> yeah cuz i cant get the game right now
#3951 [22:01] <Boreeas> GreyVulpine: (1) is a classic-only error?
#3952 [22:01] <mib_wx6lhe> im on internet explorer for window 7
#3953 [22:01] <mib_wx6lhe> idk
#3954 [22:02] <Escherial> wow, that sucked...was literally getting something like 20 seconds per frame for a bit
#3955 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> Boreeas - I have no idea, but (1): unable to load logo and progress bar is a common classic only issue
#3956 [22:02] <mib_wx6lhe> oh?
#3957 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_wx6lhe - Please go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %temp%
#3958 [22:02] <mib_wx6lhe> how do i fix it?
#3959 [22:02] <Escherial> seems like it was consuming a lot of memory, too
#3960 [22:02] <mib_wx6lhe> w8 y?
#3961 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> When you press enter, a temporary files folder will open. Look for any folders in there named "www.minecraft.net" and "minecraft.net' and delete them
#3962 [22:02] <mib_wx6lhe> i mean i trust u
#3963 [22:02] <mib_wx6lhe> but
#3964 [22:03] <mib_wx6lhe> seriously?
#3965 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> This will clear your browser's cache of temp files from mincraft.net, forcing minecraft to redownload the client for classic
#3966 [22:03] <mib_wx6lhe> why would i delete them?
#3967 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Corrupt files, giving you the error
#3968 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Deleting them will make your computer download the client again
#3969 [22:03] <mib_wx6lhe> hmmm...this is how i got scammed once
#3970 [22:03] <mib_wx6lhe> someone said
#3971 [22:03] <mib_wx6lhe> that i
#3972 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> That is the solution. Take it or leave it
#3973 [22:04] <Boreeas> mib_wx6lhe: You don't get scammed by deleting stuff
#3974 [22:04] <mib_wx6lhe> had to delete it
#3975 [22:04] <Boreeas> mib_wx6lhe: And you won't get scammed by an Operator
#3976 [22:04] <mib_wx6lhe> i did once, but i trust u so ill try it
#3977 [22:05] <smurf> ookay i reinstalled jave and i have windows xp
#3978 [22:05] <smurf> *java
#3979 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> smurf - Try minecraft again? Maybe try the downloadable client at minecraft.net/download?
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#3982 [22:06] <mr_evil> Is there a problem with the purchasing of minecraft, everytime i try to buy it it says error but also says transaction complete
#3983 [22:06] <mib_wx6lhe> hmm
#3984 [22:06] <mr_evil> i am trying to order a gift code
#3985 [22:06] <redneckboy> when i play my minecraft minecraft ut self crashes
#3986 [22:06] <mib_wx6lhe> there wasnt any files in it
#3987 [22:07] <mib_wx6lhe> that said minecraft
#3988 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_wx6lhe - Look for folders named "minecraft.net" and "www.minecraft.net"
#3989 [22:07] <mib_wx6lhe> i did there was none
#3990 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Did you press enter after putting in %temp% in your search bar?
#3991 [22:07] <mib_wx6lhe> yes
#3992 [22:07] <mib_wx6lhe> the file said temp
#3993 [22:07] <mib_wx6lhe> i opened it
#3994 [22:08] <redneckboy> GreyVulpine of topic of minecraft but how late do you work
#3995 [22:08] <mr_evil> Can anyone give me advice to fix my problem?
#3996 [22:08] <mib_wx6lhe> and it had a bunch of files but none of them said mincraft at all
#3997 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_wx6lhe - How about www.minecraft.net?
#3998 [22:08] <mib_wx6lhe> nope
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#4000 [22:08] <smurf> thanks downloadable version works
#4001 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> redneckboy - Work? I don't work here at all.
#4002 [22:09] <mib_wx6lhe> lol XD
#4003 [22:09] <mr_evil> Ello?
#4004 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> redneckboy - Everybody here is just a community member. We are not employed by Mojang, nor do we get paid by them.
#4005 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_wx6lhe - There's gotta be a folder like that there.
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#4007 [22:09] <mib_wx6lhe> ok so i re-opened minecraft and it said the same thing
#4008 [22:10] <Ragont> Hi
#4009 [22:10] <mib_wx6lhe> nope
#4010 [22:10] <redneckboy> o ok well that was a stupid qustion but my mc crashes when i play it and thats cool
#4011 [22:10] <mib_wx6lhe> there wasnt a single one
#4012 [22:10] <Ragont> Anyone know how to fix a bad chunk?
#4013 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_wx6lhe - You've looked at both under the M's, and W's. for your foldernames?
#4014 [22:10] <redneckboy> the qustin i asked
#4015 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Ragont - Delete said chunk with a map editor like MCedit
#4016 [22:10] <Ragont> Ok
#4017 [22:10] <mib_wx6lhe> hmmmm...i will double check Ws
#4018 [22:10] <Ragont> Thanks
#4019 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Ragont - Or try Mcedit's Fix chunk function
#4020 [22:10] <Ragont> Right
#4021 [22:10] <Ragont> Thanks, then
#4022 [22:11] <mr_evil> GreyVulpine do you know whats wrong with the purchasing problems?
#4023 [22:11] <redneckboy> i was here alot earlier but it was working then
#4024 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> redneckboy - Do you get any error reports? Any files named hs_err_pid?
#4025 [22:11] <redneckboy> um yes but it was a flash so i didnt get to read it
#4026 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - There are no problems with the purchasing on Mojang's end. It's all either the payment provider screwing up, like Moneybookers, or your credit card/bank denying the payment on their end
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#4028 [22:12] <Wug> ;af-enable
#4029 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - We typically tell people to try Paypal, they're usually more reliable when purchasing minecraft with
#4030 [22:12] <WugBot> Allowed autofactoids in #minecrafthelp
#4031 [22:12] <mib_wx6lhe> kk i checked but there wasnt anything in M's or W's with the word minecraft in it
#4032 [22:12] <Wug> it shouldnt be quite as aggressive anymore
#4033 [22:12] * GreyVulpine stabs Wug
#4033 [22:12] <mr_evil> OK, cause i saw only 1 article but it said no-one has been able to purchase minecraft or gift codes for the past 2 days
#4034 [22:12] <Wug> let me test it
#4035 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Which is false.
#4036 [22:13] <mr_evil> OK thank you
#4037 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - See http://www.minecraft.net/stats -- In the last 24 hours, 60,077 people registered, and 8,195 people bought the game.
#4038 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> That's not 'nobody'
#4039 [22:13] <Wug> Does your windows username happen to contain an exclaimation mark (!) in it
#4040 [22:14] <Wug> I believe I have brought it back to working order
#4041 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> How do I update java?
#4042 [22:14] * GreyVulpine prods WugBot
#4042 [22:14] <Wug> I deleted its database the other day
#4043 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Pfft.
#4044 [22:14] <Wug> so its pretty much empty
#4045 [22:14] <redneckboy> you go to java.com
#4046 [22:14] <Wug> redneckboy: lol we are testing the bot
#4047 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> redneckboy - I know how to update java, was just testing the bot
#4048 [22:14] <mib_wx6lhe> Grey? you go to the screen that tells you to and click it or you go to java.com/update
#4049 [22:14] <wannabemac> LOL
#4050 [22:14] <mib_wx6lhe> i think
#4051 [22:14] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#4051 [22:15] <redneckboy> o man i am a redneck
#4052 [22:15] <Wug> lololo this is getting bash'd
#4053 [22:15] <redneckboy> thats sad
#4054 [22:15] <redneckboy> so abought my mc can you help me with that
#4055 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_wx6lhe - Could you try a different browser like firefox, or chrome, or opera?
#4056 [22:16] <mib_wx6lhe> i suppose i could
#4057 [22:17] <redneckboy> my mc just crashes when the map loads up
#4058 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Try a new map?
#4059 [22:17] <redneckboy> o ok
#4060 [22:17] <redneckboy> one sec
#4061 [22:17] <mib_wx6lhe> nope nvm my dad wouldnt want me to change his browser
#4062 [22:18] <mib_wx6lhe> Grey, do you know anyone that doesnt want their account?
#4063 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#4064 [22:18] <mib_wx6lhe> kk
#4065 [22:18] <wannabemac> I have 3...
#4066 [22:18] <mib_wx6lhe> really?
#4067 [22:18] <wannabemac> Yes.
#4068 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_wx6lhe - Try going to Internet explorer's Tools toolbar and clearing the temporary files/browser history from there.
#4069 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_wx6lhe - Try going to Internet explorer's Tools toolbar and clearing the temporary files/browser history from there.
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#4071 [22:18] <mib_wx6lhe> would they be willing to give on password to me?
#4072 [22:19] <Wug> mib_wx6lhe: trust me, hed be fine with you using something other than ie
#4073 [22:19] <Wug> ie is horrible and sucks
#4074 [22:20] <mib_wx6lhe> wannabe? could i know one of the passwords please?
#4075 [22:20] <wannabemac> I am sorry, no.
#4076 [22:20] <redneckboy> thnx bye
#4077 [22:21] <redneckboy> oh and Grey u and everybody else helps alot thnx
#4078 [22:22] <mib_wx6lhe> w8, if you have three accounts that arent wanted why cant i have the password to one?
#4079 [22:22] <mib_wx6lhe> lol you totally lied dude! XD
#4080 [22:24] <wannabemac> I did not lie.
#4081 [22:24] <wannabemac> Ill name them, **********, *************, ***************
#4082 [22:25] <mib_wx6lhe> ok well if you dont want they, why cant i have one? dude i really cant buy it and i need one
#4083 [22:25] <Escherial> i feel somewhat dubious that passing the launcher arguments about memory usage will also affect minecraft itself
#4084 [22:25] <wannabemac> I am sorry, ask for one for christmas.
#4085 [22:25] <wannabemac> If you celebrate it.
#4086 [22:25] <mib_wx6lhe> lol
#4087 [22:25] <mib_wx6lhe> i kinda do kinda dont
#4088 [22:25] <mib_wx6lhe> split family :/
#4089 [22:26] <wannabemac> ahh.
#4090 [22:26] <wannabemac> Post on youtube asking for one.
#4091 [22:26] <mib_wx6lhe> tried it
#4092 [22:26] <mib_wx6lhe> nobody cares
#4093 [22:26] <wannabemac> It works, i have done it.
#4094 [22:27] <mib_wx6lhe> oh rlly? well then u got lucky cuz it never has worked fofr me
#4095 [22:27] <wannabemac> Keep trying.
#4096 [22:28] <mr_evil> Just tried purchasing it again and it didnt work
#4097 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> What are you purchasing it with?
#4098 [22:28] <mr_evil> Visa
#4099 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Visa Credit card? Prepaid/gift card? Debit?
#4100 [22:28] <mr_evil> Credit Card
#4101 [22:29] <mib_wx6lhe> if it doesnt work asking you, wannabe, then y wud it work elsewhere
#4102 [22:29] <wannabemac> ?
#4103 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Call Visa's customer support number on the back of the card, see if they're blocking or denying the purchase on their end
#4104 [22:29] <wannabemac> I am not going to discusee this anymore.
#4105 [22:29] <mr_evil> Ok
#4106 [22:29] <mib_wx6lhe> kk, i am sorry for beating you :P
#4107 [22:30] <mib_wx6lhe> jk
#4108 [22:30] <wannabemac> ...
#4109 [22:30] <mib_wx6lhe> thank you 4 trying to help
#4110 [22:31] <mib_wx6lhe> goodnight everyone, i will try again in the morning
#4111 [22:31] <mib_wx6lhe> thank you all for your advice and effort
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#4113 [22:31] <mib_wx6lhe> bye
#4114 [22:31] <Escherial> no problem! :D
#4115 [22:32] <mib_wx6lhe> Peace! :D
#4116 [22:32] <wannabemac> I hate getting annoying about my accounts.
#4117 [22:32] <th3ch053n0n3> I heard that if you bought during beta, you only got free updates until the final release. true?
#4118 [22:32] <wannabemac> Should not have said anything...
#4119 [22:32] <wannabemac> No.
#4120 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> False.
#4121 [22:33] <th3ch053n0n3> ok. did not think so, but.....
#4122 [22:33] <wannabemac> But, extra content packs that may come are not guarenteed to be free.
#4123 [22:35] <th3ch053n0n3> so, if you bought during alpha they would have been? because on dec 10, 2010 notch said something to the effect of "if you buy during beta you only get free updates until beta is over" on his blog
#4124 [22:35] <wannabemac> That last part is not true, but the first part is.
#4125 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> th3ch053n0n3 - People who bought during alpha, were promised free expansion packs/DLCs/added paid content beyond final release
#4126 [22:36] <th3ch053n0n3> ok..... that's what he meant.
#4127 [22:36] <th3ch053n0n3> ty for all ur help
#4128 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> All users you purchased an account receive free updates, bug fixes and such beyond final release.
#4129 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> you = that
#4130 [22:37] <th3ch053n0n3> so if, for example, cobalt becomes a dlc of minecraft, those who bought minecraft in alpha would get it free but those who bought in beta would still have to pay?
#4131 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> cobalt would never be a dlc of minecraft.
#4132 [22:38] <wannabemac> I should buy cobalt
#4133 [22:38] <th3ch053n0n3> its just an example.
#4134 [22:38] <th3ch053n0n3> it was all i could think of.
#4135 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> But yes, if there was a DLC that was released for minecraft, people who purchased minecraft during alpha would get it for free. Beta and final users would have to pay for it
#4136 [22:39] <th3ch053n0n3> hmmmmmm. d#$% it all to h@#$, my credit cards were overdrawn when I first heard of minecraft
#4137 [22:39] <wannabemac> lol
#4138 [22:40] <th3ch053n0n3> and then i forgot about it until 1.7 beta
#4139 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Beta started back in December of last year.
#4140 [22:41] <th3ch053n0n3> dec 20 to be exact
#4141 [22:41] * GreyVulpine nods
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#4143 [22:42] <th3ch053n0n3> thanks again. see yall when i need help figuring out what some of the stuff in 1.9 does, im going to update now.
#4144 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> We'll be here.
#4145 [22:43] <wannabemac> Ill be here.
#4146 [22:43] <wannabemac> Kinda enjoy helping people.
#4147 [22:43] <obi_wan> Windows XP black screen in browser. Any help?
#4148 [22:43] <wannabemac> Then again...
#4149 [22:43] <Buz> Obi
#4150 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - Modded?
#4151 [22:43] <wannabemac> Please be more descriptive.
#4152 [22:43] <Buz> Yeah.
#4153 [22:43] <obi_wan> Well, Minecraft used to run in my browser, but now it doesn't.
#4154 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - Did you mod minecraft in any way?
#4155 [22:44] <obi_wan> No.
#4156 [22:44] <Buz> When did the black screen start happening?
#4157 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - Is this for classic or the paid premium minecraft?
#4158 [22:44] <obi_wan> 1.8 Beta
#4159 [22:44] <obi_wan> Paid.
#4160 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Does the downloadable client work?
#4161 [22:45] <Buz> Did you try force update yet?
#4162 [22:45] <obi_wan> Yes.
#4163 [22:45] <obi_wan> Wait, the client, no.
#4164 [22:45] <obi_wan> And I have tried the force update.
#4165 [22:45] <obi_wan> Still no.
#4166 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - Have you gone to your start menu, hit Run, gone to %appdata% and deleted everything in the .minecraft folder except for 'saves'
#4167 [22:46] <obi_wan> Yes.
#4168 [22:46] <obi_wan> I've updated my drivers and re installed Java.
#4169 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> What version of java did you install?
#4170 [22:46] <obi_wan> Version 6 Update 30
#4171 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> And you didn't touch Java 7 at all, right?
#4172 [22:47] <obi_wan> No.
#4173 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> No?
#4174 [22:47] <obi_wan> I actually didn't know it even existed.
#4175 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> What video card do you have on there?
#4176 [22:49] <obi_wan> I think Radeon 9800 Series.
#4177 [22:49] <obi_wan> It's from like 2003.
#4178 [22:50] <Buz> eww
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#4181 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> The radeon 9000 series have been giving us problems lately. Did you update those drivers from ATI's site?
#4182 [22:50] <obi_wan> No.
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#4184 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> From where did you update them from?
#4185 [22:51] <obi_wan> My computer.
#4186 [22:51] <Buz> Will Hardware acceleration fix this?
#4187 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Try a video driver update first.
#4188 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Use:
#4189 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> ?? gpu/amd
#4190 [22:51] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#4191 [22:52] <wannabemac> just realixed i was still connected...
#4192 [22:52] <Buz> Can i update my gma 950
#4193 [22:52] <Buz> ?
#4194 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> You can try, from:
#4195 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> ?? gpu/intel
#4196 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Erm, bleh
#4197 [22:52] <Buz> yeah
#4198 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#4199 [22:52] <Buz> i think my gma has been modded though
#4200 [22:52] <Buz> it's gma 950 now lol
#4201 [22:53] <Buz> gpu*
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#4203 [23:00] <Sorgrum> Can someone help me update my minecraft to 64 bit like is recommended in the video options of my minecraft
#4204 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> What operating system do you run?
#4205 [23:01] <Sorgrum> Tiger 10.6.8
#4206 [23:01] <wannabemac> You do not need it.
#4207 [23:01] <wannabemac> It will run fine without it.
#4208 [23:01] <Sorgrum> Why?
#4209 [23:02] <Sorgrum> Alright is there an official minecraft texture pack that is 64 bit?
#4210 [23:02] <wannabemac> Not really sure how to explain what 32 and 64 bit is, some assisstance GreyVulpine?
#4211 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Sorgrum - No official HD texture packs
#4212 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. you're on your own for that part
#4213 [23:03] <Sorgrum> Ok, thanks
#4214 [23:03] <obi_wan> But there are some really great packs I know of.
#4215 [23:03] <Sorgrum> Which?
#4216 [23:04] <obi_wan> Hold on.
#4217 [23:04] <wannabemac> John Smith is one.
#4218 [23:04] <Sorgrum> Can I have a link?
#4219 [23:05] <obi_wan> http://www.mediafire.com/?7cyhhr4tk2s7tto
#4220 [23:05] <Sorgrum> Thanks
#4221 [23:06] <obi_wan> You're welcome.
#4222 [23:06] <Buz> hey i'm using john smiths right now!
#4223 [23:06] <Buz> i love the diamond pick
#4224 [23:06] <Sorgrum> What kind of texture pack is it?
#4225 [23:06] <Sorgrum> Realistic?
#4226 [23:06] <Buz> and axe !!
#4227 [23:06] <Buz> the diamond axe is amazing
#4228 [23:07] <Buz> Sorgrum it's hard to explain
#4229 [23:07] <Sorgrum> Lol ok
#4230 [23:07] <Sorgrum> But it's not simplistic?
#4231 [23:07] <Buz> it's not trying to be realistic
#4232 [23:07] <Buz> Hell naw
#4233 [23:07] <Sorgrum> lol thanks
#4234 [23:07] <Buz> It's hd
#4235 [23:07] <Buz> 32x
#4236 [23:07] <Buz> lot's of work put into it
#4237 [23:08] <Sorgrum> There are some HD simplistic texture packs
#4238 [23:08] <Buz> Really?
#4239 [23:08] <Sorgrum> They're bad tthough
#4240 [23:08] <Buz> I would agree
#4241 [23:13] <wannabemac> The quiet has finally set it once again.
#4242 [23:15] <|Kiikun|> indeed.
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#4246 [23:25] <wannabemac> I need to go soon, its getting late.
#4247 [23:26] <wannabemac> Who wants to hear a joke?
#4248 [23:26] <wannabemac> Anyone still on?
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#4250 [23:31] <wannabemac> C ya later guys
#4251 [23:31] <wannabemac> im off
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