#1 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> or http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/9-3/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx?&lang=English
#2 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> ferminter - With?
#3 [00:00] <zkxs> we can kinda help you
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#5 [00:00] <mib_wgl5wg> GreyVulpine: is that the link for the legacy driver that we should try?
#6 [00:00] <ferminter> well, when i bought the game i downloaded it and should it say 1.0.0
#7 [00:01] <zkxs> it should say 1.0.1
#8 [00:01] <hmw> the server is 1.0.1
#9 [00:01] <zkxs> oh, wait, 1.0.0 is right
#10 [00:01] <ferminter> i try force updating it and it's still the same
#11 [00:01] <zkxs> you have the correct version
#12 [00:01] <hmw> ferminter: what number are you expecting?
#13 [00:01] <ferminter> 1.0.1
#14 [00:02] <hmw> ferminter: that goes only for the SMP server, the client still is 1.0.0
#15 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> 1.0.0 is the latest client. 1.0.1 is a server-only update
#16 [00:02] <ferminter> what's that?
#17 [00:02] <hmw> well... the server software to make MC servers
#18 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> You only need to worry about 1.0.1 if you're running a minecraft server.
#19 [00:02] <zkxs> ferminter: if you are more interested in the versions, this is very helpful: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#20 [00:04] <ferminter> thanks, and i also wondered is it suppossed to keep lagging and constantly freezing
#21 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> Lagging how?
#22 [00:04] <mib_wgl5wg> GreyVulpine: is the link you posted what we should use?
#23 [00:05] <hmw> i had lag issues under windows, too... minor lag, though
#24 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_wgl5wg - You can try..
#25 [00:05] <mib_wgl5wg> disable old driver and try this one?
#26 [00:05] <ferminter> like, when i look around the screen just stops then continues 10 seconds later
#27 [00:05] <hmw> mib_wgl5wg: that is the version, I understood, you would need
#28 [00:05] <mib_wgl5wg> ok, we will try.
#29 [00:06] <hmw> ferminter: that is not quite minor lag. What are your hardware/OS specs?
#30 [00:06] <ferminter> im using mac osx
#31 [00:06] <hmw> ferminter: what Java are you using?
#32 [00:06] <hmw> http://javatester.org/version.html
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#34 [00:07] <ferminter> i dont know where to download the latest java though
#35 [00:07] <hmw> what version number is it? there is a MAC specialist in here, i think
#36 [00:07] <hmw> SCOTT
#37 [00:08] <hmw> trying to evocate the almighty scott
#38 [00:08] <mib_wgl5wg> GreyVulpine: should we download the full suite or just the display driver?
#39 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> It's up to you, I'd recommend the full suite.
#40 [00:09] <hmw> driver should do, but I recommend full version for features in the settings thingy
#41 [00:09] <mib_wgl5wg> thx
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#43 [00:17] <ferminter> and i cant make a lasso
#44 [00:19] <hmw> ferminter: aren't you going to tell us the Java version?
#45 [00:19] <ferminter> 10.6
#46 [00:19] <hmw> that'd be Mac Java, i suppose?
#47 [00:20] <hmw> should look more like 1.3.1
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#49 [00:20] <ferminter> yes
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#52 [00:28] <ferminter> peace out peopls!
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#61 [01:28] <SinZ> ...lol
#62 [01:28] <SinZ> I used a bike pump to cool down my laptop by 1c
#63 [01:28] <SinZ> not bike, baloon
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#66 [01:31] <gunther> I have registered and it sent it to my email and i have been waiting for 15 minutes and it hasn't come up yet. how long will it take?
#67 [01:33] <gunther> I have registered and it sent it to my email and i have been waiting for 15 minutes and it hasn't come up yet. how long will it take?
#68 [01:34] <gunther> I have registered and it sent it to my email and i have been waiting for 15 minutes and it hasn't come up yet. how long will it take?
#69 [01:34] <gunther> I have registered and it sent it to my email and i have been waiting for 15 minutes and it hasn't come up yet. how long will it take?
#70 [01:34] <gunther> Are you there?
#71 [01:34] <lemon-rev> gunther could take up to a full day
#72 [01:35] <gunther> NO!!! I NEED IT NOW!!! IS THERE A CHANCE IT WOULD COME IN AN HOUR???
#73 [01:36] <gunther> :(
#74 [01:37] <gunther> ELLO PUPPET?
#75 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> Could you cut the caps? We can hear you just fine.
#76 [01:38] <gunther> Wait you can hear ME??
#77 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> You've registered to what?
#78 [01:38] <gunther> Mindcraft.
#79 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> Well, this is the minecraft help channel, so you're in the wrong place obviously. You might want #mindcraft
#80 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> Now, if you registered for minecraft, that's a different issue.
#81 [01:39] <gunther> I mean Minecraft... sorry bout that.
#82 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> So you've registered for minecraft at minecraft.net?
#83 [01:40] <gunther> Yep.
#84 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> So then, what problem are you running into exactly?
#85 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> Hello?
#86 [01:42] <gunther> i have made an account but i try to sign in and it tells me to verify my account.
#87 [01:42] <gunther> i have been waiting for 15 minutes
#88 [01:42] <gunther> how long does it normally take?
#89 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> Did you check your email for a verification email?
#90 [01:42] <gunther> yes
#91 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> Did you check your spam folder?
#92 [01:42] <gunther> it hasnt shown up
#93 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> Did you see one?
#94 [01:42] <gunther> nooo
#95 [01:42] <gunther> letme see
#96 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> If you haven't gotten one by now, you'll want to send yourself another one from: http://www.minecraft.net/sendemailverification
#97 [01:43] <gunther> nope
#98 [01:43] <gunther> ok
#99 [01:43] <gunther> it wont let me
#100 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> And why won't it?
#101 [01:43] <gunther> it says that i have recently made one
#102 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> Then you haven't made an account under that specific name
#103 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> er, sorry.
#104 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> You may just need to wait for the email to show up, we don't know when it'll get to you
#105 [01:44] <gunther> :(
#106 [01:45] <gunther> ok thank you
#107 [01:47] <gunther> Did you hear about what happened with Justin Bieber and Selena Gomez?? OMG!!
#108 [01:49] <gunther> They broke up!! D:
#109 [01:51] <Coll> so?
#110 [01:52] <Scott> i heard they had a baby
#111 [01:53] <Eddie> #minecrafthelp
#112 [01:53] <Eddie> yep.
#113 [01:53] <tyteen4a03> :o
#114 [01:53] <Eddie> o:
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#118 [02:39] <ANoobishNoob> I'm not receiving the email verification email/code, and it has been about 3 days now.
#119 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> Did you check your spam folder?
#120 [02:40] <ANoobishNoob> I've checekd every folder I have.
#121 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> Did you have it resent via: http://www.minecraft.net/sendemailverification
#122 [02:40] <ANoobishNoob> Yes.
#123 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> Then send an email to help@mojang.com
#124 [02:40] <ANoobishNoob> Alright
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#126 [02:42] <Ivvy> so my husband just bought the game, but when i registered it didnt send the E-mail Verification, and yes i checked my spam folder. it is also not resending it to me :( any ideas
#127 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> Send an email to help@mojang.com
#128 [02:45] <Ivvy> ty couldnt even find any contact info
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#134 [02:52] <jrmars> hello?
#135 [02:52] <hmw> living sign
#136 [02:53] <jrmars> ok i have a promble with minecraft
#137 [02:53] <hmw> you need patience on IRC. just ask your question, provide details like OS/hardware
#138 [02:54] <hmw> and then wait. You can use the time to do some web searches, probably there will be a forum entry explaining the solution.
#139 [02:54] <tyteen4a03> jrmars: Yes?
#140 [02:54] <tyteen4a03> hmw: to save your typing, ^
#141 [02:54] <hmw> uh, what?
#142 [02:54] <tyteen4a03> [15:53] <tyteen4a03> jrmars: Yes?
#143 [02:54] <jrmars> ok i don't have the minceraft jar file
#144 [02:55] <tyteen4a03> jrmars: Running minecraft again will download them
#145 [02:55] <jrmars> it's not in the bin file
#146 [02:55] <hmw> did you buy the game?
#147 [02:55] <jrmars> yes
#148 [02:55] <hmw> well.. perhaps you haven't actually let the launcher download the game. There have been issues with the web site yesterday
#149 [02:56] <jrmars> i did run and reinstalled it
#150 [02:57] <jrmars> im try to install mods but don't have the file
#151 [02:57] <tyteen4a03> ??> jrmars win/.minecraft
#152 [02:57] <VoxelHead> jrmars: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#153 [02:57] <tyteen4a03> jrmars: make sure you went into the right folder
#154 [02:58] <jrmars> i did that im made sure of it
#155 [02:58] <hmw> then delete your .minecraft folder (perhaps except the saves folder) and redownload
#156 [02:59] <hmw> redownload = start the launcher
#157 [02:59] <jrmars> i have it stays the same
#158 [02:59] <hmw> only possible, if the launcher crashes... does it say "updating Minecraft"?
#159 [03:00] <hmw> did you download from minecraft.net/download?
#160 [03:01] <jrmars> yes
#161 [03:01] <hmw> does the game actually run?
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#163 [03:02] <jrmars> yes i works fine but won't let me install mods
#164 [03:02] <hmw> you are navigating to the wrong folder, obviously
#165 [03:02] <hmw> open "My COmputer", type %appdata% into the address bar, press enter, click ".minecraft"
#166 [03:03] <FFKRONOS> Hey, I keep getting a "registry refers to a nonexistent Java Runtime Environment installation or the runtime corrupted. The system cannot find the path specified" error
#167 [03:03] <hmw> FFKRONOS: reinstall java, I'd say
#168 [03:04] <FFKRONOS> Did, doesn't go
#169 [03:04] <hmw> FFKRONOS: make sure to use Sun Java 1.6.0_30
#170 [03:05] <FFKRONOS> java in the control panel is broken too
#171 [03:05] <FFKRONOS> lol
#172 [03:06] <tyteen4a03> ??> FFKRONOS win/javara
#173 [03:06] <VoxelHead> FFKRONOS: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#174 [03:06] <VoxelHead> FFKRONOS: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software and you can download it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/javara/files/
#175 [03:06] <tyteen4a03> Please try to remove java installations using this tool
#176 [03:08] <jrmars> ok did what you said hmw but it the still the same
#177 [03:09] <tyteen4a03> jrmars: can you take a screenshot where you are right now?
#178 [03:09] <jrmars> i don't know how to do that?
#179 [03:10] <tyteen4a03> Press Print Screen key on your keyboard, go to Paint, press Ctrl+V, save it and upload it to imgur.com
#180 [03:10] <hmw> press ALT+Print (Near "Scroll Lock top right of your kbd), then open MSPaint.exe, press CTRL+V
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#182 [03:11] <hmw> it dies work without the ALT key now?
#183 [03:11] <hmw> does
#184 [03:11] <tyteen4a03> it has always worked without alt...
#185 [03:11] <hmw> damn me
#186 [03:11] <hmw> i did it with ALT for... dunno 15 years now
#187 [03:12] <AndrewPH> alt printscreen is active window
#188 [03:12] <AndrewPH> printscreen is full screen
#189 [03:12] <hmw> ah, ok
#190 [03:13] <FFKRONOS> Thanks so much, Minecraft works again!
#191 [03:13] <hmw> lol I always set input focus to the Desktop in order to get a full screen shot
#192 [03:13] <FFKRONOS> spoke too soon. Says it can't connect to minecraft.net
#193 [03:13] <hmw> !isdown
#194 [03:13] <GreyBot> hmw: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#195 [03:13] <hmw> hmm
#196 [03:13] <hmw> FFKRONOS: test it with your firewall disabled
#197 [03:14] <FFKRONOS> maybe windows is blocking it
#198 [03:14] <hmw> firewalls, even
#199 [03:14] <FFKRONOS> ya
#200 [03:14] <FFKRONOS> yup no go
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#202 [03:15] <hmw> FFKRONOS: what does http://javatester.org/version.html tell you?
#203 [03:16] <Steyner> Hi, need some help with te email verification.... The problem is known on the forums bur not really solved as far as I read.
#204 [03:17] <tyteen4a03> Steyner: Yes?
#205 [03:17] <Steyner> I'm not getting the verification mail and its not in the spam folder :)
#206 [03:17] <tyteen4a03> did you mistype the email?
#207 [03:18] <Steyner> no.
#208 [03:18] <FFKRONOS> "Browser has Java disabled"
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#210 [03:18] <tyteen4a03> Can you try to Resend Verification Email?
#211 [03:18] <Steyner> I did but I can try again...
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#213 [03:18] <hmw> FFKRONOS: allow scripting for that page
#214 [03:20] <Steyner> tyteen4a03: A verification email was recently sent.
#215 [03:20] <jrmars> ok i uploaded it now what
#216 [03:20] <jrmars> how do you guys see it
#217 [03:21] <tyteen4a03> Steyner: What email provider do you use?
#218 [03:21] <hmw> jrmars: paste the link to the image here pls
#219 [03:21] <Steyner> tyteen4a03: German gmx.de
#220 [03:21] <jrmars> http://imgur.com/GGQxy
#221 [03:21] <hmw> that shouldn't be a problem, Steyner
#222 [03:21] <tyteen4a03> Steyner: Can you try other email providers such as gmail or yahoo mail?
#223 [03:21] <Steyner> but i have to choose a different username then?
#224 [03:22] <tyteen4a03> jrmars: the minecraft file you see is minecraft.jar
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#226 [03:22] <hmw> hahahah
#227 [03:22] <hmw> stupid Windows
#228 [03:22] <sugoi> hi guys, i just finished a 5bit adder, my design -- didn't cheat and look at anyone elses!
#229 [03:22] <sugoi> [i could go on with more bits...but it proved scalable, that's all i needed]
#230 [03:23] <Steyner> tyteen4a03: Do I have to choose a different username then?
#231 [03:23] <sugoi> no congrats at all!?
#232 [03:23] * sugoi feels unappreciated
#232 [03:23] <hmw> FFKRONOS: your windows thinks, that it makes your life easier by hiding all these creepy code-ish looking stuff like file extensions. It doesn't show the full file name, but only what is before the last dot in it. If you didn't change that setting, you could find out about a file's type by looking at it's icon or using detailed view in Explorer (Would be something like "JAR File" or "Java Archive")
#233 [03:24] <Steyner> sugoi: THis is a help channel not bragging channel :)
#234 [03:24] <sugoi> Steyner: there is a time for bragging :) you have to make time
#235 [03:24] <Steyner> sugoi: :d
#236 [03:24] <Chris> ??< fubar/hamachi
#237 [03:25] <Steyner> sugoi: :D
#238 [03:25] <hmw> sugoi: nice... but swallow that: my 4 bit adder uses like 10x20x3. The display (3x 7-segment digits) is more cubic, and like double in size (per digit). The display controller is 30 times larger than the display LOL
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#240 [03:26] <jrmars> ok i know what i did wrong thanks guys for all your help
#241 [03:26] <hmw> tell us
#242 [03:26] <hmw> tah
#243 [03:26] <hmw> sorry
#244 [03:26] <some_guy> sugoi: i heard you finished your 5bit adder, congrats!
#245 [03:26] <sugoi> thanks some_guy
#246 [03:26] <some_guy> yw, peace
#247 [03:26] <sugoi> chears
#248 [03:26] * sugoi feels better
#248 [03:26] <hmw> jrmars: I'd recommend you change that setting "Hide file extensions" in your explorer to save you additional headache
#249 [03:27] <jrmars> ok i will
#250 [03:27] <hmw> its somewhere in extras/options iirc
#251 [03:27] <Calinou> eh
#252 [03:27] <hmw> but that might be XP only
#253 [03:27] <Calinou> do show them! uncheck the "hide known extensions" box
#254 [03:28] <Calinou> only idiots don't uncheck it IMO - there is no downside to showing them
#255 [03:28] <hmw> only idiots try to make an operating system that hides such crucial information from the user, just because they could become scared and not buy it
#256 [03:29] <hmw> how should they even come to the idea, that there might be something like file extensions?
#257 [03:29] * sugoi used to work for microsoft
#257 [03:29] <sugoi> the problem was that most ppl are idiots - and someone has to feed them
#258 [03:29] <hmw> Plastic OS
#259 [03:30] * Calinou is on linux
#259 [03:31] * sugoi is on gentoo, i.e. linux++
#259 [03:31] <hmw> the main problem (imo) is, that they try to make computers as easy as a DVD player, which will never work, unless they manage to create strong AI
#260 [03:31] <sugoi> ok, lame - it's late i'm not witty when it's late
#261 [03:31] <hmw> everyone without a mental illness is capable of learning the basics, even some coding
#262 [03:32] <hmw> gentoo is LFS for the lazy
#263 [03:32] <sugoi> hmw: weren't you in here earlier rallying everyone to go off topic
#264 [03:32] <sugoi> psh, lazy, i'm fixing it all the time
#265 [03:32] <hmw> i haven't been rallying... wait... is "rallying" encouraging or forbidding?
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#267 [03:32] <sugoi> encouraging
#268 [03:32] <sugoi> calling to join
#269 [03:33] <hmw> i haven't been doing that at all. I might have said, that it is usually OK here to chat off topic
#270 [03:33] <hmw> perhaps i have enticed some people by simply chatting off topic, though
#271 [03:34] <hmw> why did you ask?
#272 [03:35] <Steyner> Who would like to go on helping me after tyteen4a03 left?
#273 [03:35] <sugoi> it was a rhetorical question, bringing to consideration the off-topicness
#274 [03:35] <sugoi> Steyner: what was the issue?
#275 [03:35] <Steyner> sugoi: still no verification email after trying all my email accounts on 4 different providers
#276 [03:36] <Steyner> sugoi: problem has occurred on the forum but was not solved there
#277 [03:36] <hmw> what is your user name on minecraft?
#278 [03:36] <Steyner> hmw: mine?
#279 [03:36] <sugoi> Steyner: you've tried multiple emails? did a 'change email' feature get finished while i was away?
#280 [03:36] <hmw> yes
#281 [03:37] <Steyner> No I used different usernames since i can't log in without verification
#282 [03:37] <sugoi> Steyner: you have 4 usernames?
#283 [03:37] <hmw> Steyner: how long have you been waiting for that confirmation mail?
#284 [03:37] <Steyner> sugoi: fastest way to try my email providers
#285 [03:38] <Steyner> 20 mins
#286 [03:38] <sugoi> Steyner: but each username requires payment, so you've bought the game 4 times?
#287 [03:38] <Steyner> and the first i tried weeks ago
#288 [03:38] <sugoi> or are you only making accounts, and not buying the game?
#289 [03:38] <hmw> give it another hour or some more... if you don't receive it by tomorrow, contact Mojang
#290 [03:38] <sugoi> Steyner: are you registering 4 times? or purchasing each time?
#291 [03:38] <Steyner> without verification i can't buy I can't log in I cant do anything
#292 [03:39] <hmw> Steyner: might be, that their server is somewhat under heavy load
#293 [03:39] <Steyner> i try to get 1 valid accout to buy the game
#294 [03:39] <sugoi> i see
#295 [03:40] <hmw> or the user names contain weird characters... are your user names made up of only the 26 letters?
#296 [03:40] <hmw> Steyner: ^
#297 [03:40] <Steyner> yes
#298 [03:40] <Steyner> and it tells me "A verification email was recently sent. "
#299 [03:40] <hmw> hmm
#300 [03:40] <Steyner> if i try again
#301 [03:41] <hmw> it might be stuck in their outbox
#302 [03:41] <Steyner> I checket the spam folders
#303 [03:42] <Steyner> still nothing :(
#304 [03:43] <Steyner> and as I said the first time I tried weeks ago but no email...
#305 [03:43] <hmw> oh weeks ago
#306 [03:43] <Steyner> and i don't like it that my username "steyner" is now blocked
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#308 [03:44] <Steyner> as well as other variants of that wich i used today
#309 [03:44] <sugoi> Steyner: that does suck
#310 [03:45] <sugoi> Steyner: but at least tells you something is working..
#311 [03:45] <Steyner> sugoi: I try to stay calm and speak politely... but its getting harder :D
#312 [03:45] <hmw> not getting an instant confirmation mail with gmx
#313 [03:46] <Steyner> as well as yahoo and my private email server
#314 [03:46] <hmw> but weeks isnt OK
#315 [03:46] <Steyner> yep
#316 [03:46] <hmw> contact help@mojang.com
#317 [03:47] <Steyner> ok I'll do that
#318 [03:47] <hmw> good luck
#319 [03:47] <Steyner> thanks guys /gals
#320 [03:47] <Steyner> bye
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#325 [04:07] <Aska> hello
#326 [04:07] <Grim_Reaper> Greetings
#327 [04:08] <Aska> when I play Minecraft, sometimes my FPS suddenly drop from ~100 to 0
#328 [04:08] <hmw> how long, until it goes up again?
#329 [04:08] <Aska> the game is still here, but it's really like I had 0-1 FPS
#330 [04:09] <hmw> aska?
#331 [04:09] <Aska> yes sorry
#332 [04:09] <Aska> until I qui the game
#333 [04:09] <Aska> I can barely do Alt-F4
#334 [04:09] <hmw> so without reboot, a restart solves it
#335 [04:09] <Aska> yes
#336 [04:10] <Aska> but it often corrupt the save in singleplaer
#337 [04:10] <hmw> what are your machine's specs? CPU/GPU/RAM, OS, 32/64bit?
#338 [04:10] <Aska> ah, and it happens both on signleplayer and multiplayer
#339 [04:10] <Aska> but more frequently in multiplayer
#340 [04:11] <Aska> GPU : GTS 250, 512 Mo
#341 [04:11] <Aska> CPU : Core 2 Duo, 2.66 Ghz
#342 [04:11] <Aska> 2 Go RAM
#343 [04:11] <Aska> 32-Bit OS
#344 [04:11] <hmw> W7?
#345 [04:11] <sugoi> hmw: my laptop has 8GB, i've had mc drop to ~10fps sometimes, javaw was using >7GB of ram
#346 [04:12] <Aska> I have Windows XP and Archlinux
#347 [04:12] <hmw> smells like memory leak, sugoi
#348 [04:12] <Grim_Reaper> Aska have you tried updating your drivers?
#349 [04:12] <hmw> Aska: does it happen in Linux, too?
#350 [04:12] <sugoi> hmw: ah, yeah, that's the point
#351 [04:12] <Aska> It happens on Archlinux
#352 [04:12] <hmw> AND on win?
#353 [04:12] <Aska> and I think on WIndows too( but I don't play minecraft very much on it)
#354 [04:13] <hmw> well.. .generic advise for Windows: Update GPU drivers, install Sun Java 1.6.0_30
#355 [04:13] <hmw> using Sun JRE on Linux?
#356 [04:13] <Aska> I tried Sun JRE and OpenJDK, and had the same issue
#357 [04:13] <hmw> also: check GPU temperature
#358 [04:14] <hmw> MC is quite heavy on the hardware
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#360 [04:14] <hmw> Aska: perhaps starting mc via terminal might give you some clues in it's errout
#361 [04:15] <hmw> Aska: also watch memory consumption
#362 [04:15] <hmw> Aska: I use Ubuntu Lucid, OpenJDK on a weaker machine, and I can run it for at least hours
#363 [04:16] <hmw> Aska: how does the system load look, when that happens?
#364 [04:17] <Aska> I'm currently playing on multiplayer, waiting for this bug to happen
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#366 [04:17] <Aska> I'll tell you
#367 [04:18] <shang> hello anyone there?
#368 [04:18] <hmw> Hmm... no clue, shang
#369 [04:18] <shang> I registered an account but I can't get the verification email. Is the server down?
#370 [04:18] <hmw> perhaps, you are the third in 30 minutes to ask here
#371 [04:18] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#372 [04:18] <Grim_Reaper> Also double check your junk folders and such
#373 [04:19] <hmw> well... the fourth actually, my new account hasn't got me the confirmation mail, too... and I did it 20 minutes ago or so
#374 [04:20] <Grim_Reaper> Looks like Mollstam will need to take a looky then
#375 [04:20] <hmw> and that person is who?
#376 [04:21] <Grim_Reaper> ...
#377 [04:21] <Grim_Reaper> You do not know who mollstam is?
#378 [04:21] <hmw> sounds like a mojang employee
#379 [04:21] <Grim_Reaper> Yes... He's the guy who loves fixing the issues on the website
#380 [04:21] <hmw> no, i am not a MC fanboy
#381 [04:21] <Grim_Reaper> Or rather it's his job
#382 [04:22] <hmw> heheh
#383 [04:22] <Grim_Reaper> No need to be a fanboy to know who he is
#384 [04:22] <hmw> usually, i don't hear their names anywhere
#385 [04:22] <hmw> except here
#386 [04:22] <Aska> hmw: I had the bug again
#387 [04:22] <hmw> anything interesting?
#388 [04:22] <Aska> RAM load was 1.67 on 2.00 Go
#389 [04:23] <Aska> but this was increasing
#390 [04:23] <hmw> isn't soo much too much
#391 [04:23] <hmw> i'd expepect a load of 800-1000 MB
#392 [04:23] <Aska> and GPU temp around 70 °C
#393 [04:23] <hmw> sounds fine, too... weird...hmm...
#394 [04:23] <Aska> (I'm using Optifine)
#395 [04:24] <hmw> can't tell, if that is the cause, i only play vanilla... try vanilla for a while
#396 [04:24] <Aska> nope, I have the same issue with vanilla
#397 [04:24] <hmw> aha. bad for you and me.
#398 [04:24] <Aska> in fact, I installed Optifine in order to get rid of this bug
#399 [04:24] <hmw> disable advanced opengl?
#400 [04:24] <Aska> hmm maybe
#401 [04:24] <hmw> i am running low on ideas
#402 [04:25] <hmw> Aska: perhaps do a fsck lol
#403 [04:25] <Aska> fsck ?
#404 [04:25] <hmw> file system check??
#405 [04:25] <hmw> file system check??
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#407 [04:28] <Aska> I'm using "far" render distance on 32-Bit system, could it be the source of the bug ?
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#412 [04:35] <hmw> Aska: I am using it, too, but have no issues. But possible, they put in the warning for a reason (I hope)
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#415 [04:36] <knackig> Hello
#416 [04:37] <hmw> hi
#417 [04:37] <knackig> I have a problem with Minecraft
#418 [04:37] <hmw> quite awful that is
#419 [04:38] <knackig> Wenn ich Minecraft starten möchte, steht links keine wichtigen Nachrichten, Ich denke dieser screenshot wird euch weiterhelfen: http://s7.directupload.net/images/111223/wuljp9oa.png
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#421 [04:39] <knackig> If I want to start mine Craft, left, is an important message, I think this screenshot will help you: http://s7.directupload.net/images/111223/wuljp9oa.png
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#423 [04:39] <hmw> does it prevent you from logging in, too?
#424 [04:39] <GreyVulpine> knackig - You have some sort of firewall on your computer blocking minecraft.
#425 [04:40] <knackig> really?
#426 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#427 [04:40] <knackig> I look at this, sorry for my bad english, I´m from Germany
#428 [04:41] <hmw> Vermutlich blockiert deine Firewall das Spiel. Schalt sie mal ganz ab zum Testen.
#429 [04:41] <knackig> ok
#430 [04:42] <knackig> no, it´s the same
#431 [04:42] <GreyVulpine> What software do you use?
#432 [04:43] <knackig> Windows 7
#433 [04:43] <hmw> knackig: Make sure, you are using Sun Java 1.6.0_30, use http://javatester.org/version.html
#434 [04:44] <knackig> hmw- thats for mac
#435 [04:44] <hmw> nope
#436 [04:44] <hmw> it will just tell you, what JRE is installed
#437 [04:44] <knackig> bitte auf deutsch^^ hab ne 4in englisch ka
#438 [04:45] <hmw> Gerne, ist nur deswegen Schlecht, weil dann andere meine Fehler nicht verbessern können... aber keine Sorge, ich kenn mich ein bisserl aus mit Computern
#439 [04:45] <hmw> die Seite funktioniert mit jedem Betriebsystem
#440 [04:45] <knackig> wo muss ich jetzt das java downloaden?
#441 [04:46] <hmw> erstmal die Version checken und uns sagen
#442 [04:46] <knackig> version 7
#443 [04:46] <knackig> *1.7
#444 [04:46] <hmw> da ist schon das problem
#445 [04:46] <hmw> ich such dir einen Link...
#446 [04:47] <knackig> wo den?
#447 [04:47] <hmw> http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp
#448 [04:47] <hmw> du hast 1.7, die ist aber noch eher eine Betaversion oder so... 1.6 wird auch von Mojang dringend angeraten
#449 [04:47] <knackig> achso^^
#450 [04:48] <knackig> der installer wird gerade heruntergeladen
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#452 [04:48] <hmw> knackig: ich bin zuversichtlich, dass es klappen wird
#453 [04:49] <knackig> muss kurz browser schließen bg
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#455 [04:52] <knackig> Wieder da
#456 [04:53] <knackig> Hallo
#457 [04:54] <hmw> easy... IRC ist manchmal etwas langsamer, ich schau ja nicht dauernd auf den Chat und warte, ob wer was schreibt...
#458 [04:54] <knackig> immer noch das gleiche^^
#459 [04:54] <hmw> geh doch nochnmal auf den javatester
#460 [04:54] <Calinou> don't use java 7 for minecraft
#461 [04:54] <hmw> Calinou: he just tried ton install 1.6
#462 [04:55] <knackig> wo is der? musste browser neu starten
#463 [04:55] <hmw> du hättest "java" in die Adresszeile tippen können, dann wäre er wieder aufgetaucht. http://javatester.org/version.html
#464 [04:57] <knackig> und was muss ich da jetzt machen?
#465 [04:57] <hmw> lesen und mir sagen welche Version gemeldet wird in der rosa box
#466 [04:58] <knackig> da is gar keine rosa box
#467 [04:58] <knackig> ah doch jetzt^^
#468 [04:58] <hmw> dann hast du entweder einen Scriptblocker oder... aha
#469 [04:58] <knackig> 1.6.0_30 from Sun Microsystems Inc.
#470 [04:58] <hmw> hmm
#471 [04:59] <hmw> hast du noch andere Schutz-Software?
#472 [04:59] <knackig> ja
#473 [04:59] <knackig> anvia und outpost pro
#474 [04:59] <hmw> schalt mal alles ab, was irgendwie mitmischen könnt
#475 [04:59] <knackig> ok
#476 [04:59] <hmw> Vermutlich musst du nur noch dafür sorgen, dass Minecraft durchgelassen wird
#477 [05:00] <knackig> und wo?
#478 [05:01] <hmw> In den jeweiligen Programmen, aber schalte erst mal ganz ab, um festzustellen, ob es auch wirklich daran liegt
#479 [05:01] <hmw> Avira wird übrigens NICHT stören
#480 [05:01] <knackig> was ganz abstellen, die virenschutzprogramme?
#481 [05:02] <hmw> naja... ist es wirklich "Anvia" oder eh "Avira"?
#482 [05:02] <knackig> ich hab mir aber vorgestern so ein schutzprogramm von chip.de geholt com adventsklaender, ich weiß aber net wie man das ausmacht
#483 [05:02] <knackig> Avira AntiVir
#484 [05:03] <hmw> den kannst du ignorieren, der tut nix
#485 [05:04] <knackig> da is aber nichts verzeichnet von minecraft mit viren undso
#486 [05:04] <hmw> Was die anderen Programme betrifft, wirst du wohl die Hilfe lesen müssen oder auf den jeweiligen Foren fragen, wie man ein Programm "erlaubt". Normalerweise kann man solche Programme auch vorrübergehend deaktivieren
#487 [05:05] <hmw> Ignorier Avira, der stört sicher nicht
#488 [05:05] <knackig> ah jetzt gehts das ding von chip.de hat blockiert
#489 [05:05] <knackig> thx
#490 [05:05] <hmw> na dann musst du nur noch rausfinden, ob du das Programm wirklich behalten willst und wenn ja, wie du es dressieren kannst
#491 [05:07] <hmw> knackig: übrigens, es gibt viel Müll im Bereich Schutzsoftware, manchmal sind es sogar Trojaner, die nur andere Trojaner löschen, um selber besser arbeiten zu können. Ich empfehle, du kaufst ein paar COmputerzeitschriften, die gerade Tests zu solchen Programmen haben und entscheidest danach.
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#494 [05:11] <mib_kn7gqg> any one help with my server internal server error ?
#495 [05:12] <hmw> mib_kn7gqg: put the error message to pastebin.com and give us the link, pls
#496 [05:14] <mib_kn7gqg> http://pastebin.com/ms1yUKYE
#497 [05:14] <hmw> mib_kn7gqg: vanilla minecraft? mods? Bukkit?
#498 [05:15] <mib_kn7gqg> vanilla minecraft
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#500 [05:15] <FFKRONOS> Hey, I can't connect to minecraft.net with my client
#501 [05:15] <hmw> is the error reproducible or more random? if reproducible, what triggers it?
#502 [05:15] <mib_kn7gqg> when i click on any item
#503 [05:16] <hmw> FFKRONOS: didn't we solve that before already??
#504 [05:16] <mib_kn7gqg> like to spawn blocks
#505 [05:16] <FFKRONOS> No, sorry. I got pulled off for more important matters
#506 [05:16] <hmw> mib_kn7gqg: make sure, you are using Sun Java 1.6.0_30 and not 1.7 http://javatester.org/version.html
#507 [05:16] <hmw> FFKRONOS: pls remind me, what did we try already?
#508 [05:17] <FFKRONOS> I removed the old version of java and reinstalled java
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#510 [05:17] <FFKRONOS> got the client working, but it cannot connect even with firewalls down
#511 [05:17] <Honeydew> Hello!
#512 [05:18] <hmw> Honeydew: hi
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#514 [05:18] <Honeydew> The Mine Little Pony mod really is something
#515 [05:18] <hmw> FFKRONOS: i think you told me, that you bought the game, right? Is there an error message?
#516 [05:19] <hmw> aha... mib seemingly just installed another Java version LOL
#517 [05:19] <FFKRONOS> Yeah, I bought the game when it was in alpha. I started using eclipse with a JDK and it fucked up
#518 [05:19] * AuBot kicked FFKRONOS from #minecrafthelp (Reason: FKRONOS :Please keep it civil.)
#519 [05:19] * hmw is psychic today
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#520 [05:19] <FFKRONOS> Yeah, I bought the game when it was in alpha. I started using eclipse with a JDK and it messed up
#521 [05:19] <hmw> FFKRONOS: if you suspect your java might be broken, try
#522 [05:20] <hmw> ??> FFKRONOS javara
#523 [05:20] <hmw> argh
#524 [05:20] <Honeydew> Anything i can help with?
#525 [05:20] <hmw> ??> FFKRONOS win/javara
#526 [05:20] <VoxelHead> FFKRONOS: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#527 [05:20] <VoxelHead> FFKRONOS: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software and you can download it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/javara/files/
#528 [05:21] <hmw> FFKRONOS: but i think, that's not really for your problem. Did you deinstall the previous JREs?
#529 [05:21] <Honeydew> I guess not..
#530 [05:21] <hmw> Honeydew: well... *G*
#531 [05:21] <FFKRONOS> Oh ya, I used that before, that solved my previous problem
#532 [05:21] <hmw> Honeydew: lurk more and get into action, if you see something, you think you can solve
#533 [05:22] <Honeydew> Sure thing
#534 [05:22] * Honeydew eats a jaffa cake while looking
#534 [05:22] <hmw> Honeydew: FFKRONOS appears to have a severely damaged JRE
#535 [05:22] <Honeydew> owch
#536 [05:22] <hmw> FFKRONOS: do you have another JRE installed, too?
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#538 [05:23] <FFKRONOS> I used JavaRa to delete all I could find
#539 [05:23] <hmw> hmm.
#540 [05:23] <FFKRONOS> all it could find*
#541 [05:24] <hmw> Is reinstalling an option? Do you have a spare HD for a test setup perhaps?
#542 [05:24] <hmw> FFKRONOS: are you using a big network or are you at home?
#543 [05:24] <FFKRONOS> I'm just at home, and yeah I have a big enough HD to do anything
#544 [05:24] <Honeydew> Good
#545 [05:24] <hmw> FFKRONOS: I guess, I told you to turn off any security software for testing
#546 [05:25] <hmw> sure looks like a firewall blocking
#547 [05:25] <FFKRONOS> Might be related, but the web-version of minecraft doesn't run as well
#548 [05:26] <Honeydew> I'm thinking of upgrading my gpu to a nVidia GeForce
#549 [05:26] <hmw> but you can play locally?
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#551 [05:26] <FFKRONOS> Ya it runs as a client
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#553 [05:27] <hmw> but the loader shows a grey screen with some html and you can't connect to outside servers
#554 [05:27] <FFKRONOS> The loader on the website shows nothing
#555 [05:27] <hmw> the launcher for the locally stored client
#556 [05:27] <Honeydew> Blocky Christmas and a Creepy New Year!
#557 [05:28] <Honeydew> Goodbye
#558 [05:28] <FFKRONOS> I see. I can't login to my account, I guess you could say
#559 [05:28] <hmw> Honeydew: you might want to join #minecraft
#560 [05:28] <hmw> for chat
#561 [05:28] <hmw> hm
#562 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> Triple check firewall, also, ! in windows username
#563 [05:28] <hmw> ah yes
#564 [05:28] <FFKRONOS> ! in windows username?
#565 [05:29] <hmw> Java has problems, if your user contains a "!"
#566 [05:29] <FFKRONOS> oh no, it doesn't
#567 [05:29] <hmw> only the 26 letters?
#568 [05:29] <FFKRONOS> 26 letters?
#569 [05:29] <hmw> no special chars or such
#570 [05:30] <hmw> well... I guess, we should start over... tell me, if anything i will be stating is not true:
#571 [05:30] <FFKRONOS> oh, right it has a _
#572 [05:30] <hmw> Sun Java 1.6.0_30
#573 [05:30] <hmw> Updated GPU
#574 [05:30] <FFKRONOS> I think I have 1.6.0_29 actually
#575 [05:30] <hmw> it's 30 since ... not long
#576 [05:30] <hmw> you have disabled all firewalling programs
#577 [05:30] <FFKRONOS> Just downloaded it a few hours ago though so
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#579 [05:31] <hmw> the _29 shouldn't be a problem, i suppose, my Linux has _20
#580 [05:31] <hmw> but now i see, you can't login to minecraft.net? how so?
#581 [05:31] <hmw> ??> win/hosts
#582 [05:32] <hmw> ??> hmw win/hosts
#583 [05:32] <VoxelHead> hmw: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#584 [05:32] <VoxelHead> hmw: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#585 [05:32] <hmw> FFKRONOS: ^
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#587 [05:32] <hmw> FFKRONOS: ever used a pirated version of the game before?
#588 [05:33] <FFKRONOS> No, always legit
#589 [05:33] <hmw> how can you not login to minecraft.net?
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#591 [05:33] <FFKRONOS> The client cannot connect to the server
#592 [05:34] <hmw> and if you go to that page in your browser, it works?
#593 [05:34] <FFKRONOS> Nope, the script fails to run
#594 [05:34] <FFKRONOS> it draws nothing, I mean
#595 [05:34] <hmw> wait you lost me somewhere... script?
#596 [05:35] <FFKRONOS> Didn't mean script. The minecraft web-based client doesn't run
#597 [05:35] <hmw> but can you log in on the web site
#598 [05:35] <FFKRONOS> yes
#599 [05:35] <hmw> k
#600 [05:35] <hmw> well... please show us your hosts file, 10 lines above
#601 [05:37] <FFKRONOS> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mFLMsHJL
#602 [05:37] <hmw> hmm clean
#603 [05:37] <hmw> but I guess, the 127.0.0.1 line on the bottom should be there only one time
#604 [05:38] * hmw is puzzled
#604 [05:39] <GreyVulpine> symptoms?
#605 [05:39] <hmw> JRE updated, but can't "connect to server" (i suppose, he gets that after clicking "login") wont' work in the browser either, he tried javara, firewalls apparently disabled
#606 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> And HTML where the news feed should be?
#607 [05:41] <FFKRONOS> Firewalls are completely off
#608 [05:42] <FFKRONOS> The rest of the site is functional, except that on the web-app version of minecraft only renders the background, header and footer
#609 [05:42] <GreyVulpine> Do you get the news feed in the launcher?
#610 [05:43] <FFKRONOS> I think my adblock plus extension in firefox is blocking it
#611 [05:44] <FFKRONOS> Also, news feed?
#612 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes, news feed.
#613 [05:44] <hmw> there should be a list of what's new in the current version, when you click minecraft.exe, the screen with login
#614 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> http://images.ukcs.net/14930/minecraft_launcher.png
#615 [05:45] <FFKRONOS> nope
#616 [05:45] <hmw> heh that screen shot must be quite old
#617 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> What do you see in place of the news?
#618 [05:46] <FFKRONOS> Are we talking about the stand-alone client or web client
#619 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> standalone
#620 [05:46] <hmw> is Java actually using the default browser or IE?
#621 [05:47] <FFKRONOS> I get a screen that says "Minecraft Launcher" with my account login info. Press login, get a prompt that says "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#622 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> And what do you see in place of the news feed above where you log in under?
#623 [05:47] <FFKRONOS> I can then play offline, but that's all I can do / see. No newsfeed
#624 [05:47] <hmw> FFKRONOS: what is there, where that feed should be?
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#626 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> Or do you see something like this? http://s3.amazonaws.com/satisfaction-production/s3_images/362582/Screenshot-MinecraftLauncher.png
#627 [05:48] <FFKRONOS> yes, I see something like that
#628 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> You have an old launcher
#629 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#630 [05:49] <hmw> GreyVulpine: another detail: (11:20:16 AM) FFKRONOS: Yeah, I bought the game when it was in alpha. I started using eclipse with a JDK and it messed up
#631 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I wasn't here for all of that
#632 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> He's still using the old alpha launcher, which would've stopped working a few months back
#633 [05:49] <hmw> GreyVulpine: but an old launcher wouldn't explain, why he can't play on the web site
#634 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> One thing at a time
#635 [05:49] <hmw> sure :)
#636 [05:51] <FFKRONOS> Downloading the client again just to make sure
#637 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> Looks like Mojang is deploying a fix for the email verification issue.
#638 [05:53] <FFKRONOS> Alright, client works!
#639 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> Great, now, for the web client. What error do you get when you try to log in there?
#640 [05:53] <FFKRONOS> I don't get an error, it doesn't even run
#641 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> Black screen?
#642 [05:54] <hmw> NoScript? ABP shouldn't block Minecraft, afaik
#643 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> Did you install any mods, use any HD texture packs, or modified minecraft.jar in any way?
#644 [05:54] <FFKRONOS> Nope, the only thing drawn in my web browser is the minecraft.net header, footer, and background. I'm using a vanilla client, so no mods or anything
#645 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> Erm, could you provide a screenshot?
#646 [05:55] <FFKRONOS> Noscript allows everything on minecraft.net
#647 [05:55] <FFKRONOS> kk 1 sec
#648 [05:55] <FFKRONOS> also how do I do a screenshot in this
#649 [05:56] <GreyVulpine> Upload it to imgur.com and give us the URL?
#650 [05:56] <hmw> klick the browser window (put input focus on it) the press "PRINT" (top right, next to "Scroll Lock"), then open mspaint.exe, press CTRL+V
#651 [05:56] <FFKRONOS> lol whoops, obvious
#652 [05:56] <FFKRONOS> kk 1 second
#653 [05:58] <FFKRONOS> http://imgur.com/zMpYb
#654 [05:59] <hmw> FFKRONOS: did you do this while in F11 full screen?
#655 [05:59] <FFKRONOS> I cut out the rest of my desktop
#656 [06:00] <hmw> next time try ALT+PRINT, should only copy the active window, my bad
#657 [06:00] <hmw> something is blocking java in your browser
#658 [06:01] <FFKRONOS> well.. the only difference is my bookmarks and it shows I'm using firefox so haha
#659 [06:01] <FFKRONOS> I'll check my Java extension
#660 [06:03] <FFKRONOS> Oh. Java Console isn't compatable with my version of firefox
#661 [06:03] <FFKRONOS> I think this is just an update problem
#662 [06:03] <hmw> console shouldn't matter, i suppse
#663 [06:04] <hmw> FFKRONOS: you could try in IE
#664 [06:04] * GreyVulpine blehs
#664 [06:05] <hmw> i know... i still saw hard graphic errors in IE8... scrolled down and up again and suddenly the page was healed
#665 [06:06] <FFKRONOS> yeah IE isn't going to happen, can't even connect to the site
#666 [06:06] <hmw> uhm
#667 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Chrome? Opera?
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#669 [06:06] <FFKRONOS> weird, chrome and IE won't open it
#670 [06:07] <hmw> his hosts is clean besides a double entry for localhost
#671 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't matter
#672 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> !isdown
#673 [06:07] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#674 [06:07] <hmw> okay lol
#675 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft's loading extraordinarily slow for me
#676 [06:08] <FFKRONOS> Yup same
#677 [06:08] <hmw> I had that the whole last few hours
#678 [06:08] <hmw> took me up to a minute to get the starting page
#679 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> You may just want to wait it out and try again on a different browser
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#681 [06:09] <FFKRONOS> Honestly, I don't really care THAT much for the web-based client
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#683 [06:09] <hmw> FFKRONOS: but i care for a potential problem, but it might just have been the web site itself.
#684 [06:09] * GreyVulpine nods
#684 [06:10] <FFKRONOS> yeah, I keep getting a "no data received" error in chrome, I think minecraft.net might just be messed for now?
#685 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> Might just be
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#687 [06:11] <FFKRONOS> Alright, I'll try again tomorrow or sometime. Thanks for the help though, glad to have the standalone client working again
#688 [06:11] <hmw> hmm... 10 seconds
#689 [06:11] <hmw> FFKRONOS: have fun!
#690 [06:11] <hmw> oh 30 seconds
#691 [06:11] <hmw> lol
#692 [06:11] <hmw> Guess I am lucky, that I don't have to create high load sites
#693 [06:13] <FFKRONOS> ya haha
#694 [06:13] <hmw> well, that was 4.8 successful ... support actions ... today. I am happy.
#695 [06:22] * GreyVulpine gives another gold star.
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#697 [06:38] <Switi> Hello, i came here yesterday, someone said that i had to update my ATI drivers. That's why i've done, and it's the same problem, i screenshoted : http://imageshack.us/f/703/20111223123417.png/ these shadows are unwanted..
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#699 [06:40] <Switi> Hey hmw ;)
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#701 [06:41] * hmw is virtually already in bed
#701 [06:41] * Switi apologizes
#701 [06:42] <hmw> np... anything personal?
#702 [06:42] <Switi> You helped me yesterday
#703 [06:42] <Switi> Tried *
#704 [06:42] <hmw> ic... well... i am really tired. Guess you will find help here anyways
#705 [06:42] <hmw> bye everybody
#706 [06:42] <Switi> bb
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#708 [06:43] <Freaky> hi (=
#709 [06:43] <Freaky> some admins here ?
#710 [06:46] <Boreeas> Switi: That might be because of swamp biomes - They don't interpolate correctly with the other iome colors
#711 [06:46] <Boreeas> Freaky: Just ask and someone will help you
#712 [06:47] <Switi> Boreeas: Can't see how i can fix it.
#713 [06:47] <Boreeas> Switi: There might be a mod to fix it. Other than that, I have no idea.
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#715 [06:48] <Switi> Boreeas: Thanks i'll search for swamp biome on the internet. I'm Grateful
#716 [06:48] <Boreeas> Switi: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/820720-100-swamp-color-reverter/
#717 [06:48] <Boreeas> Try that one
#718 [06:48] <Switi> Okay thanks
#719 [06:52] <Switi> Boreeas: Thanks alot, it works !
#720 [07:01] <gPad2002> Hey, Kealper
#721 [07:01] <gPad2002> You there?
#722 [07:02] <Freaky> i cant login MC .... "user not premium " but i bought it .... Sb can help me ?
#723 [07:02] <gPad2002> Freaky: It can take some time
#724 [07:02] <gPad2002> People have been reporting wait times of up to two weeks lately
#725 [07:02] <gPad2002> I guess it's the Xmas activation and gift code purchase rush
#726 [07:04] <Freaky> ok
#727 [07:04] <Freaky> so i need 2 wait ?
#728 [07:05] <TheNoodle> ??> Freaky payment
#729 [07:05] <VoxelHead> Freaky: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#730 [07:05] <VoxelHead> Freaky: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#731 [07:06] <Freaky> kk
#732 [07:06] <Freaky> i payt with EC
#733 [07:07] <Freaky> but i got no E-Mail
#734 [07:07] <Freaky> mb some german admin here ?
#735 [07:09] <Freaky> and i bought it 2 day´s ago
#736 [07:10] <TheNoodle> Ich nicht deutsch, sondern rede kleine deutsch, warum?
#737 [07:11] <Freaky> Ist leichter für mich zu erklären ^^
#738 [07:12] <TheNoodle> sec.
#739 [07:13] <TheNoodle> Mojang nicht nehmen zahlung selbst, müssen für andere geschäftliche warten, um zu sagen, dass die zahlung Mojang passiert.
#740 [07:13] <Freaky> ok... but 2 day´s ?
#741 [07:14] <TheNoodle> wenn mehr als 3 tage zu senden brief an mojang
#742 [07:14] <TheNoodle> zwei oder drei.
#743 [07:14] <Freaky> k thank u m8 (=
#744 [07:15] * TheNoodle nickt
#744 [07:27] <Boreeas> TheNoodle: Google translate? ;)
#745 [07:27] <TheNoodle> For words I had no idea what they were :D
#746 [07:28] <TheNoodle> For example, anything technical I haven't learnt in german, so I'm a little fucked helping in here.
#747 [07:29] <Boreeas> Heh
#748 [07:30] <TheNoodle> So now I'm going to question you on things.
#749 [07:30] <TheNoodle> command prompt?
#750 [07:30] <TheNoodle> graphics, drivers, email
#751 [07:30] <TheNoodle> :D
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#755 [07:41] <Boreeas> TheNoodle: Command prompt -> Kommandozeile, Graphics -> Grafik, Drivers -> Treiber, email -> E-Mail
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#757 [07:58] <TheNoodle> <3
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#760 [08:09] <Nilsyboy> Hello!! :) it's me again! :) Played for two days now, and i'm having a good time! :)
#761 [08:10] <Nilsyboy> i have one question, still! :) How can i make MY OWN internettserver, where i can be admin, etc.... and people can play om my map? :)
#762 [08:10] <TheNoodle> Nilsyboy, if you don't want plugins, download the server executable from minecraft.net
#763 [08:11] <TheNoodle> forward port 25565 on your router and run the server.
#764 [08:11] <Nilsyboy> did not understand the last one there... "Forward port 25565 on my router"?
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#766 [08:12] <TheNoodle> http://portforward.com
#767 [08:13] <Nilsyboy> And how does this help me? :)
#768 [08:13] <Nilsyboy> to get my server up to internet?
#769 [08:14] <gPad2002> It lets people connect
#770 [08:14] <TheNoodle> That site can show you how to forward the port for the minecraft server.
#771 [08:14] <gPad2002> Otherwise your firewall will block them
#772 [08:18] <Nilsyboy> okay, cant completely understand yet, but i will download the server thing from minecraft.net first
#773 [08:19] <Nilsyboy> then you can explain while i'm doing it;)
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#775 [08:29] <Nilsyboy> Back.. i have downloaded "minecraft server" from minecraft.net now, when i started it, it just shows a white box
#776 [08:29] <Nilsyboy> is that right?
#777 [08:29] <Nilsyboy> stats, and players, to the left.
#778 [08:29] <Nilsyboy> and alot of text in the "log and chat" boc
#779 [08:30] <Nilsyboy> box
#780 [08:30] * TheNoodle nods
#780 [08:30] <TheNoodle> Now of course you ignored what I said about port forwarding and just ran the server for the heck of it :P
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#782 [08:32] <Matheus_Meira> SOME MODERATOR ONLINE?
#783 [08:33] <Nilsyboy> hmmm, so i have screwed ewrything now?
#784 [08:33] <Nilsyboy> i haven't made any server yet, just started the program...
#785 [08:34] <Matheus_Meira> Please im Matheus_Meira(username) and i was banned i have been my appeal http://mutinycraft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1968&p=14319#p14319 But i was banned per 24 hours yesterday can i desbanned now?
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#787 [08:34] <Matheus_Meira> So can someone help me?
#788 [08:35] <Chris> where were you banned from?
#789 [08:35] <Matheus_Meira> Muntiny Craft
#790 [08:35] <Matheus_Meira> Please im Matheus_Meira(username) and i was banned i have been my appeal http://mutinycraft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1968&p=14319#p14319 But i was banned per 24 hours yesterday can i desbanned now?
#791 [08:36] <Chris> you'll have to wait for them to unban you
#792 [08:36] <Chris> this channel cannot help you
#793 [08:36] <Matheus_Meira> How many time?
#794 [08:36] <Matheus_Meira> its because no one of then is on
#795 [08:36] <Chris> We cannot help you
#796 [08:37] <Matheus_Meira> ok
#797 [08:37] <TheNoodle> Matheus_Meira, we do not run that server.
#798 [08:37] <Matheus_Meira> thanks very much
#799 [08:37] <TheNoodle> This channel is for support with the client, go to mutiny crafts forums.
#800 [08:37] <Nilsyboy> thenoodle , can you help me? :)
#801 [08:37] <Matheus_Meira> Yeah
#802 [08:37] <Matheus_Meira> but
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#804 [08:37] <Matheus_Meira> theres no one on
#805 [08:38] <TheNoodle> Not our problem.
#806 [08:38] <Chris> We cannot help you here, you will need to wait for them to respond when they get back
#807 [08:38] <Matheus_Meira> Ok Thanks Very Much
#808 [08:38] <Matheus_Meira> Ok Thanks Very Much
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#810 [08:38] <TheNoodle> Nilsyboy, just follow the instructions on portforward.com for your brand of router.
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#812 [08:40] <Daji> Hi
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#814 [08:45] <Nilsyboy> i don't quite get this :P don't i have to MAKE the server i want to put up to the internet first?
#815 [08:47] <TheNoodle> There's no point in making a server that can't be connected to
#816 [08:48] <TheNoodle> and the making of the server is something you can do yourself, where as most people have trouble with port forwarding.
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#822 [09:05] <StuartL_MC> Heya
#823 [09:05] <StuartL_MC> Have a mod question.
#824 [09:06] <StuartL_MC> I have railcraft installed both server and client side but something is clearly not installed correctly.
#825 [09:06] <StuartL_MC> The server reports railcraft during the loading phase but doesn't report railcraft as an available mod when I join the server.
#826 [09:07] <StuartL_MC> When in creative mode on th eserver I do see the railcraft items in the creative inventory.
#827 [09:07] <Nilsyboy> thenoodle , okay ;) i'm watching a youtube video right no, on how to do this.. This: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFvvyc3QnbY&feature=fvst
#828 [09:07] <StuartL_MC> If I try to place them they immediately vanish.
#829 [09:07] <Nilsyboy> but, when i am supposed to get "static IP" i doesn't show
#830 [09:08] <TheNoodle> ??> StuartL_MC mods
#831 [09:08] <VoxelHead> StuartL_MC: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#832 [09:08] <VoxelHead> StuartL_MC: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
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#834 [09:08] <TheNoodle> Nilsyboy, for your internal static ip type ipconfig in command prompt/.
#835 [09:09] <StuartL_MC> VoxelHead: Understood. Is it inappropriate to seek assistance from those on this channel who may have experience of this issue?
#836 [09:09] <TheNoodle> VoxelHead is a bot :P
#837 [09:09] <TheNoodle> And while you can ask, most will just tell you to go somewhere else.
#838 [09:09] <Nilsyboy> yes, and which adress is it there?:)
#839 [09:10] <TheNoodle> Your IPv4 address.
#840 [09:10] <StuartL_MC> TheNoodle: Thanks, I think :)
#841 [09:11] <Nilsyboy> hmm.. "10.0.0.1" it sais...
#842 [09:12] <TheNoodle> You're looking for the one listed under "Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection" normaly
#843 [09:12] <benyx> what is the command on this chan.. for seeing if my username is set as payed account
#844 [09:14] <Nilsyboy> thenoodle , yes, and thats my IPv4 --> 10.0.0.1
#845 [09:14] <Nilsyboy> is that correct?
#846 [09:15] <StuartL_MC> Probably, it's a suitable RFC1918 IP.
#847 [09:17] <TheNoodle> it is, odd though.
#848 [09:17] <_Keltinray> That's usually the router's ip
#849 [09:18] <TheNoodle> Depends on the router, most aren't though.
#850 [09:18] <Nilsyboy> okay... so what do i do next?
#851 [09:18] <Keltinray> Well, most routers are configured for 192.168.0.0/24
#852 [09:19] <Keltinray> From what I've seen, it's not all that common for a home-router to use the 10.0.0.0 addres space
#853 [09:19] <Keltinray> *addressssssssssssssss
#854 [09:20] <Nilsyboy> in the video i just saw, he pasted his Routers adress in the internett searching bar, and logged in the change the ports.. so how can i do the same?
#855 [09:21] <TheNoodle> portforward.com should give you the address and login info for your router.
#856 [09:21] <Nilsyboy> Didn't understand that site...
#857 [09:21] <Nilsyboy> cna you help me with it?
#858 [09:22] <Nilsyboy> my routers name is : Speedtouch ST780WLT
#859 [09:22] <TheNoodle> random guess.
#860 [09:22] <TheNoodle> try 10.0.0.138
#861 [09:25] <Nilsyboy> NICE, it Worked! :)
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#863 [09:28] <Nilsyboy> so how do i now change the ports? :)
#864 [09:28] <Nilsyboy> to allow minecraft server
#865 [09:28] <Nilsyboy> so people can play
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#868 [09:33] <Nilsyboy> help, please :)
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#870 [09:43] <Nilsyboy> anyone?
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#874 [09:46] <Mipp> Early today after I had uninstalled Flans Plane and vehicle mod whenever I started to launch Minecraft it keeps on getting to the mojang screen after you log in. Thne it crashes. I have tryed force updating, deleteing the bin folder and even deleting the .minecraft folder but nothing has worked. Please help
#875 [09:46] <Mipp> Can anyone help me?
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#892 [10:34] <thelordman> hi guys
#893 [10:36] <thelordman> can any1 tell me why there is so mush lagg on the minecraft/wom server lists?
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#895 [10:38] <raisin> hallo
#896 [10:38] <thelordman> hi
#897 [10:38] <raisin> deutsche hier?xD
#898 [10:39] <thelordman> i'm dutch but not deutsche
#899 [10:40] <raisin> I have about 2 hours minecraft lastschrift bought many ... but it says that my account was geuptdatet yet?
#900 [10:40] <raisin> google translate^^
#901 [10:40] <raisin> xD
#902 [10:41] <raisin> ok i got no premiem..it says
#903 [10:42] <raisin> can anybody help?
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#907 [10:44] <Deky> why minecraft.net is lagging
#908 [10:44] <Deky> working really slow on me
#909 [10:44] <Deky> and cant access minecraft.net/downloads
#910 [10:50] <Zimsky> Deky: same
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#912 [10:52] <mib_qn2951> hi
#913 [10:52] <sients2> hey
#914 [10:53] <sients2> i need some help
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#916 [10:56] <wannabemac> Good morning
#917 [10:57] <wannabemac> Hello?
#918 [10:57] <sients2> good morning
#919 [10:57] <sients2> someone are there?
#920 [10:58] <wannabemac> Yes.
#921 [10:58] <sients2> you can help me?
#922 [10:58] <wannabemac> Yes.
#923 [10:58] <sients2> i have this problem
#924 [10:58] <sients2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4JCJfmETgw
#925 [10:58] <sients2> please watch
#926 [10:58] <sients2> it
#927 [10:59] <wannabemac> You better not be trolling me...
#928 [10:59] <sients2> no im not
#929 [10:59] <sients2> please help me
#930 [10:59] <oblMraptor> Hey ! Is the website under update or something like that ?
#931 [10:59] <sients2> no
#932 [10:59] <sients2> is all ok
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#934 [11:00] <oblMraptor> It's hard to go on minecraft.net
#935 [11:00] <oblMraptor> xD
#936 [11:00] <Nilsyboy> I need help to..;) cant find where to "port" my router, so i can make an onlineserver evryone can join
#937 [11:00] <wannabemac> Let me tree.
#938 [11:00] <wannabemac> Nilsybo, one second.
#939 [11:00] <|Kiikun|> Nilsyboy: Goto http://goo.gl/DsVIL and click on your router model, skip the PFConfig Ad, and follow the instructions to set up port forwarding! :D
#940 [11:00] <wannabemac> Ill see if I can connect to minecraft.net
#941 [11:00] <wannabemac> Nice Kiikun...
#942 [11:01] <Brelooom53> Isn't minecraft.net derpy
#943 [11:01] <Nilsyboy> OI have found my model ,and have also logged in :) but cant find where :)
#944 [11:01] <wannabemac> I am having no problems with minecraft.net
#945 [11:01] <Nilsyboy> if you know what i meen
#946 [11:01] <wannabemac> Sients2 Does this happen on every server?
#947 [11:01] <|Kiikun|> yeah website is slow to load
#948 [11:01] <sients2> no
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#950 [11:01] <sients2> only in a few servers
#951 [11:01] <wannabemac> Then it is probably the server.
#952 [11:02] <oblMraptor> Thx Kiikun, this shows that i'm not mad xD
#953 [11:02] <wannabemac> Do you have internet connection problems?
#954 [11:02] <oblMraptor> Nope.
#955 [11:02] <sients2> in the server there are 40 people connected
#956 [11:02] <sients2> no
#957 [11:02] <wannabemac> seints2 Try connecting with your firewall off.
#958 [11:03] <Nilsyboy> wannabemac , whats the next step? i have logged into my router, but cant find the option "port" to allow minecraft
#959 [11:03] <sients2> i already maked it
#960 [11:03] <sients2> i also tryed to reinstall java and minecraft
#961 [11:03] <wannabemac> Nilsyboy, follow the instructions on the website, i do not know how your router is set up.
#962 [11:04] <wannabemac> sients2. Did you try connecting with your firewall off?
#963 [11:04] <sients2> yes
#964 [11:04] <wannabemac> Give me a minute.
#965 [11:04] <sients2> ok
#966 [11:05] * |Kiikun| repeats!
#966 [11:05] <|Kiikun|> Nilsyboy: Goto http://goo.gl/DsVIL and click on your router model, skip the PFConfig Ad, and follow the instructions to set up port forwarding! :D
#967 [11:06] <|Kiikun|> Nilsyboy: if you dont know how to find you internal netword ip (aka local ip or private ip) then say so.
#968 [11:06] <wannabemac> ??> sient02 error/timedout
#969 [11:06] <VoxelHead> sient02: (error/timedout) Failed to connect to the server - Connection timed out
#970 [11:06] <VoxelHead> sient02: (error/timedout) This message occurs when minecraft attempts to connect to an smp server, but receives no response. Can be caused by firewall issues, both client or server side, or by trying to connect to a nonexistent server. Make sure java is allowed through any firewalls you have, and double check the server address.
#971 [11:07] <|Kiikun|> sients2: you can also check the server in here by using !chekc <serveraddy>
#972 [11:07] <|Kiikun|> i mean !check
#973 [11:07] <sients2> yes
#974 [11:07] <sients2> i try
#975 [11:07] <wannabemac> !check skullcraft.servegame.com
#976 [11:08] <Nilsyboy> the problem is that i don't know how that page you sent me works :P
#977 [11:08] <wannabemac> That is my server :D
#978 [11:08] <Nilsyboy> i have also tried this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFvvyc3QnbY&feature=fvst
#979 [11:08] <|Kiikun|> Nilsyboy: what router do you have?
#980 [11:08] <sients2> !check 176.31.228.168:25572
#981 [11:08] <wannabemac> hmm.
#982 [11:08] <Nilsyboy> but cant find the option : PORT Forwarding on my router
#983 [11:08] <sients2> *check 176.31.228.168:25565
#984 [11:08] <sients2> lol
#985 [11:09] <sients2> !check 176.31.228.168:25565
#986 [11:09] <|Kiikun|> [11:08] <+|Kiikun|> Nilsyboy: what router do you have?
#987 [11:09] <Nilsyboy> If i press "tools" i can choose "Game & Application sharing" ;)
#988 [11:09] <wannabemac> Lol.
#989 [11:09] <Nilsyboy> THOMSON ST780
#990 [11:10] <Nilsyboy> but after pressing Game and application , i cant figure out what more....
#991 [11:10] * |Kiikun| goes to link. scrolls to THOMSON-Alcatel. Clicks SpeedTouch780v6.
#991 [11:10] <wannabemac> Where is GreyVulpine when I need him...
#992 [11:10] <|Kiikun|> Nilsyboy: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Thomson-Alcatel/Speedtouch780v6/Minecraft_Server.htm
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#994 [11:12] <wannabemac> Sient02, I have no idea what could be causing your problem, talk to |Kiiku
#995 [11:12] <wannabemac> |Kiikun|*
#996 [11:13] <|Kiikun|> sients2: firewall maybe blocking java, try completely disabiling it for a few minutes just to see for sure if it is.
#997 [11:13] <sients2> i have disabled it
#998 [11:14] <sients2> but it is the same
#999 [11:14] <sients2> sorry for my english :D
#1000 [11:14] <|Kiikun|> sients2: try connecting to a server now. we know mc.minecraftirc.net works.
#1001 [11:15] <|Kiikun|> sients2: do you happen to be using java 7?
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#1004 [11:15] <sients2> no
#1005 [11:15] <sients2> i use 6 update 30
#1006 [11:15] <|Kiikun|> sients2: ok good. hmm....
#1007 [11:17] <wannabemac> I love xray...
#1008 [11:18] <|Kiikun|> sients2: ok im stumped :/ mc.minecraftirc.net doesnt work for you either?
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#1010 [11:18] <|Kiikun|> wannabemac: cheater >:P
#1011 [11:18] <wannabemac> I dont use fly mod... ;)
#1012 [11:18] <|Kiikun|> xray still cheating :P
#1013 [11:19] <sients2> kilkun i dont understand
#1014 [11:19] <sients2> what you meanwhat you mean
#1015 [11:19] <sients2> lol
#1016 [11:19] <sients2> sry
#1017 [11:19] <|Kiikun|> sients2: connect to mc.minecraftirc.net as a minecraft server by clicking 'direct connect'.
#1018 [11:20] <sients2> no
#1019 [11:20] <sients2> the same problem
#1020 [11:20] <wannabemac> |Kiikun| I dont cheat, I just use 3rd party software to give me a advantge.
#1021 [11:20] <wannabemac> advantage*
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#1023 [11:21] <|Kiikun|> sients2: what error does it give exactly?
#1024 [11:21] <sients2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4JCJfmETgw
#1025 [11:21] <sients2> this
#1026 [11:23] <Nilsyboy> Thanks! it worked, i have no also started "Minecraft server" and it started from 0% and counter up to 100% then it sais "Done" , does that meen that i now can make a minecraftserver, for others to join? :)
#1027 [11:24] <wannabemac> Yes.
#1028 [11:24] <|Kiikun|> Nilsyboy: that percentage was the world being generated
#1029 [11:24] <Calinou> !isdown
#1030 [11:24] <GreyBot> Calinou: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#1031 [11:24] <|Kiikun|> ;check Nilsyboy
#1032 [11:24] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: ti0047a380-2225.bb.online.no:25565 (Timed out)
#1033 [11:25] <|Kiikun|> Calinou: it was slow when i connected...
#1034 [11:25] * wannabemac stabts the Bots
#1034 [11:25] <|Kiikun|> sients2: thats usually something client side then. its killing your connection to the server shortly after connecting
#1035 [11:25] * wannabemac stabs himself for his typo.
#1035 [11:25] <wannabemac> brb
#1036 [11:26] <|Kiikun|> ??> sients2 forceupdate
#1037 [11:26] <VoxelHead> sients2: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1038 [11:26] <VoxelHead> sients2: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
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#1040 [11:26] <sients2> i tried this many times
#1041 [11:27] <sients2> but is the same
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#1043 [11:27] <Nilsyboy> |Kiikun : what do you meen? check?
#1044 [11:27] <|Kiikun|> ok i have no idea and have stuff to do before i go to work....
#1045 [11:28] <Nilsyboy> |Kiikun , okay so now i can make a server ??? since it sais doine? :)
#1046 [11:28] <|Kiikun|> Nilsyboy: i was telling wugbot to check you. aubot doesnt resolve nicknames :P and either you didnt set up forwqarding right, firewall is blocking the server, or thompson router is being... a tompson router (aka POS)
#1047 [11:28] <|Kiikun|> Nilsyboy: that 'done' means the server is running
#1048 [11:28] <|Kiikun|> Nilsyboy: unless you, say, close the window
#1049 [11:29] <Nilsyboy> okay, but i guess you need to check my ingame name then;)? "Nilsyboy1994"
#1050 [11:29] * |Kiikun| shrugs and does the oen of three things he can do with an ingame name...
#1050 [11:29] <|Kiikun|> !paid Nilsyboy1994
#1051 [11:30] * |Kiikun| pokes aubot
#1051 [11:30] <|Kiikun|> :/
#1052 [11:30] <TheNoodle> lol
#1053 [11:30] <|Kiikun|> aubot laagggyyy!!!
#1054 [11:30] <wannabemac> Back.
#1055 [11:30] <|Kiikun|> 2 was 'add to my unused whitelist' and 3 was 'peek at your skin'
#1056 [11:31] <|Kiikun|> nood! im going afk :/ need to finish editing a video
#1057 [11:31] <wannabemac> ?
#1058 [11:31] <TheNoodle> lolk
#1059 [11:31] <wannabemac> Ill try to handle things.
#1060 [11:31] <Wug> ;haspaid Nilsyboy1994
#1061 [11:31] <wannabemac> Wug...
#1062 [11:31] <Wug> website must be derped
#1063 [11:31] <Nilsyboy> since my server is running, can i just make a "server" which people can play on?:P
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#1065 [11:32] <wannabemac> You did.
#1066 [11:32] <sients2> hey
#1067 [11:32] <WugBot> Nilsyboy1994 has paid for minecraft.
#1068 [11:32] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=MorroBot <- works like a charm
#1069 [11:32] <sients2> none can help me?
#1070 [11:32] <wannabemac> ;haspaid wannabemac
#1071 [11:32] <WugBot> wannabemac has NOT paid for minecraft.
#1072 [11:32] <Morrolan> Seems the bots where just busy with something. ;)
#1073 [11:33] <Morrolan> were*
#1074 [11:33] <wannabemac> LOL wut.
#1075 [11:33] <Wug> :mojang/account
#1076 [11:33] <wannabemac> There is something wrong with your bot.
#1077 [11:33] <Wug> :account/mojang
#1078 [11:33] <WugBot> account/mojang: If you have migrated your minecraft account to a mojang account you may not be able to login to minecraft.net using your Minecraft username and password.
#1079 [11:33] <WugBot> account/mojang: This is a known issue and something is being done about it. In the mean time, haspaid will not show you as premium, but you will still be able to login and play from the downloadable client. (see :client)
#1080 [11:33] <Nilsyboy> okay :) so how can i now log in and play my own server? :P
#1081 [11:33] <Wug> I believe we have been over this
#1082 [11:33] <wannabemac> aoh, that is why.
#1083 [11:33] <wannabemac> Oh*
#1084 [11:33] <wannabemac> Damn typos.
#1085 [11:33] <Morrolan> We have, Wug. I just presume that AuBot will still use that script.
#1086 [11:33] <wannabemac> You can log onto minecraft.net now, at least I can.
#1087 [11:34] <Wug> !paid doop
#1088 [11:34] <Nilsyboy> and what do others need to do , if they want to join me? :)
#1089 [11:34] <Wug> aubot apparently borked
#1090 [11:34] <Morrolan> I rest my case.
#1091 [11:34] <Wug> Kealper: ^
#1092 [11:34] <wannabemac> !paid wannabemac
#1093 [11:35] <Nilsyboy> If you can tell me that, i won't be bothering you for so much more today :)
#1094 [11:35] <wannabemac> What is it Nilsyboy?
#1095 [11:35] <Morrolan> Nilsyboy: If they are from outside your network you will have to portforward.
#1096 [11:35] <wannabemac> He did...
#1097 [11:35] <Morrolan> THen they'll be able to connect by using your external IP.
#1098 [11:35] <Nilsyboy> i did..;)
#1099 [11:35] <|Kiikun|> ;check Nilsyboy
#1100 [11:35] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: ti0047a380-2225.bb.online.no:25565 (Timed out)
#1101 [11:36] * |Kiikun| already said what might be the issue
#1101 [11:36] <wannabemac> ;check wannabemac
#1102 [11:36] <Morrolan> Nilsyboy: And what do they get when they try to connect?
#1103 [11:36] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: pool-71-163-24-247.washdc.fios.verizon.net:25565 (Timed out)
#1104 [11:36] <Morrolan> Also, you didn't put anything into the server-ip field in server.properties, did you?
#1105 [11:36] <Morrolan> |Kiikun|: Just poke him with your thought then. :D
#1106 [11:36] <Wug> for the record
#1107 [11:36] <wannabemac> ;check skullcraft.servegame.com
#1108 [11:36] <WugBot> skullcraft.servegame.com:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: The New Skull Craft (0/20)
#1109 [11:36] <Wug> you can just use ;check if you're checking yourself
#1110 [11:36] <sients2> please help me :(
#1111 [11:37] <Wug> same with ;ip, ;account, ;host
#1112 [11:37] <Wug> :ww > sients2
#1113 [11:37] <WugBot> sients2: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1114 [11:37] <|Kiikun|> Wug: sients2 is getting timeouts (after downloading terrain).
#1115 [11:37] <Nilsyboy> eeeh??
#1116 [11:37] <Nilsyboy> do i have to log in first?
#1117 [11:37] <Wug> sounds like firewall interference
#1118 [11:37] <Nilsyboy> i did like the Portforward said...;)
#1119 [11:38] <Wug> sients2: is this on all servers or just a specific one
#1120 [11:38] <sients2> only on a few
#1121 [11:38] <Morrolan> Nilsyboy: Is the server running? Did you put anything into server.properties' IP field? Did you check that your firewall isn't blocking it? What error do people get when they try to connect? Did you try whatever |Kiikun| suggested?
#1122 [11:40] <sients2> no no one of this can resolve my problem
#1123 [11:40] <sients2> i tried everything
#1124 [11:40] <Nilsyboy> 1. The server is running, (the box called "minecraft server" 2.and that means? 3. will check it now . 4. no one have tried to connect me yet, i havent even started Minecraft game, and have not logged in either.
#1125 [11:41] <Nilsyboy> firewall isnt blocking;)
#1126 [11:41] <wannabemac> Give me the ip, I will try to connect.
#1127 [11:41] <|Kiikun|> ;ip Nilsyboy
#1128 [11:41] <WugBot> IP address of Nilsyboy is: 85.165.102.183
#1129 [11:41] <Wug> Nilsyboy: 2. Did you change the server config at all
#1130 [11:42] <Nilsyboy> so explain: how do i find my "Map"? so i can play it myself?
#1131 [11:42] <Nilsyboy> wug , i did like the Portforward told me
#1132 [11:43] <wannabemac> I cannot connect to your server, are you sure your computer's firewall isn't blocking it?
#1133 [11:43] <Nilsyboy> pretty sure, yes...
#1134 [11:44] <Nilsyboy> but i am not logged in yet, does that have anything to say?
#1135 [11:44] <Nilsyboy> and how do i make my "Map"?
#1136 [11:45] <Nilsyboy> when i try to "add server it sais: Can't resolve hostname"
#1137 [11:45] <sients2> if you can't help me, you could tell me :D
#1138 [11:48] <Wug> Nilsyboy: connect to 127.0.0.1
#1139 [11:48] <Wug> some routers wont let you connect to yourself with your global ip
#1140 [11:48] <Nilsyboy> If this is what you ment earlier.. : server.properties does not exist. does the "minecraft server " say
#1141 [11:49] <Wug> though the bot does not seem to recognize you as being connectable
#1142 [11:49] <sients2> ok good bye -.-
#1143 [11:49] <Wug> sients2: umm
#1144 [11:49] <Nilsyboy> Wug the server responded with an incalid server key
#1145 [11:50] <Wug> Nilsyboy: are you using the 1.0.0 server or the 1.0.1 server
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#1147 [11:50] <Nilsyboy> 1.0.0
#1148 [11:50] <Wug> Nilsyboy: redownload it and replace it with the current one
#1149 [11:50] <Wug> 1.0.1 fixes that issue
#1150 [11:50] <Wug> 1.0.1 fixes that issue
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#1152 [11:51] <Nilsyboy> redownload minecraft?
#1153 [11:51] <Wug> no, just the server
#1154 [11:51] <Wug> :server
#1155 [11:51] <WugBot> server: You can download the server by clicking the correct link: (For Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe ) (For Linux and OSX: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar )
#1156 [11:52] <Nilsyboy> should i close the "minecraft server" box first?
#1157 [11:52] <Wug> sients2: do you have a firewall running
#1158 [11:52] <Nilsyboy> before replacing the old server?
#1159 [11:52] <sients2> no
#1160 [11:52] <Wug> Nilsyboy: you should not ever just close it
#1161 [11:52] <Wug> type "stop" into the box and it will close itself
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#1163 [11:53] <Nilsyboy> okay, i understand :) and when i want it back up again i just click on the file? :)
#1164 [11:53] <Wug> :tv > sients2
#1165 [11:53] <WugBot> sients2: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1166 [11:53] <WugBot> sients2: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1167 [11:54] <Wug> Nilsyboy: copy the new one you just downloaded to where the old one was
#1168 [11:54] <Wug> replace it if it asks you
#1169 [11:54] <Nilsyboy> have done it :)
#1170 [11:54] <Nilsyboy> now the server is running
#1171 [11:54] <Nilsyboy> what no? :) try to connect?
#1172 [11:54] <Nilsyboy> now^
#1173 [11:54] <sients2> i know team wiever
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#1175 [11:55] <Wug> Nilsyboy: try to connect then
#1176 [11:55] <Wug> sients2: follow the instructions then
#1177 [11:55] <Nilsyboy> to my own IP?
#1178 [11:55] <Wug> Nilsyboy: to 127.0.0.1
#1179 [11:56] <Nilsyboy> I worked :)
#1180 [11:56] <Nilsyboy> but i died.. since there was no field
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#1182 [11:59] <Nilsyboy> wug , is this my server?
#1183 [11:59] <Nilsyboy> i just joined?
#1184 [11:59] <Wug> yes, thats your server
#1185 [11:59] <Nilsyboy> in that case, why cant i change anything?
#1186 [11:59] <Nilsyboy> and i have no equipments
#1187 [11:59] <|Kiikun|> http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam/status/150258545898696704
#1188 [11:59] <|Kiikun|> Alittle bird? wug? you been talkign to mollstam? :P
#1189 [12:00] <Wug> heh
#1190 [12:00] <wannabemac> Mollstam is on?
#1191 [12:00] <|Kiikun|> he's on vacation.
#1192 [12:00] <Wug> |Kiikun|: It was not me
#1193 [12:01] <Wug> though on twitter
#1194 [12:01] <Wug> "a little bird" could be anyone
#1195 [12:01] <TheNoodle> lolled
#1196 [12:02] * |Kiikun| resumes youtubery!
#1196 [12:02] <Nilsyboy> how can i get to build landmarks?/terrain?
#1197 [12:02] <Nilsyboy> wug
#1198 [12:03] <Wug> Nilsyboy: move away from spawn, you cant build close to it
#1199 [12:04] <Wug> you should also op yourself, you can do that from the server window with "op <your minecraft username>"
#1200 [12:04] <Nilsyboy> Nice :) and how do i get resources to build terrain?
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#1202 [12:07] <|Kiikun|> Nilsyboy: you ever played minecraft before?
#1203 [12:07] <Nilsyboy> bought it 2 days ago ;)
#1204 [12:07] <Boreeas> Nilsyboy: /give <player> <ressource-id> <amount> for the cheater way
#1205 [12:07] <Boreeas> Or, well, mine it
#1206 [12:08] <Charli> I got it for my b-day as a joke and I love it!
#1207 [12:08] <Nilsyboy> ho can i then apply "air mode, etc... seen alot of player which can do tha
#1208 [12:08] <Nilsyboy> t
#1209 [12:08] <Nilsyboy> do need resources to build terrain :P
#1210 [12:08] <Nilsyboy> Join my server yourself and look :P
#1211 [12:08] <Nilsyboy> 127.0.0.1
#1212 [12:08] <Nilsyboy> join
#1213 [12:09] <Boreeas> <.<
#1214 [12:09] <Boreeas> Nilsyboy: We can't join 127.0.0.1
#1215 [12:09] <Nilsyboy> serious? so how did i make it?
#1216 [12:09] <Boreeas> Nilsyboy: 127.0.0.1 is an address only valid in your local network
#1217 [12:09] <Nilsyboy> oh,... so how can others join?
#1218 [12:09] <Charli> Via hamachi
#1219 [12:10] <Boreeas> Charli: hamachi is shit
#1220 [12:10] <Nilsyboy> okay? but what about all thos servers which is made?
#1221 [12:10] <Boreeas> Nilsyboy: Either host it on a remote server, or forward ports
#1222 [12:10] <Charli> Boreeas: Not!
#1223 [12:10] <Boreeas> Nilsyboy: For port forwarding, see http://portforward.com
#1224 [12:10] <Nilsyboy> have just done that
#1225 [12:10] <Nilsyboy> Kikun helped me
#1226 [12:10] <Charli> Boreeas: I use it.
#1227 [12:11] <Boreeas> ??> Charli fubar/hamachi
#1228 [12:11] <VoxelHead> Charli: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1229 [12:11] <VoxelHead> Charli: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1230 [12:12] <Boreeas> Nilsyboy: Then give others the number you see on this website: http://whatismyip.com
#1231 [12:13] <Charli> VoxelHead: I only use it to accsess my friends server because I dont know how to make my own, shame on me
#1232 [12:13] <Nilsyboy> okay, 85.165.102.183
#1233 [12:13] <Nilsyboy> try to join
#1234 [12:13] <Charli> Nilsyboy
#1235 [12:14] <Charli> Guys
#1236 [12:14] <TheNoodle> Recommending hamachi is a sure way to get a foot up your arse in this channel Charli.
#1237 [12:14] <Boreeas> ^
#1238 [12:14] <Nilsyboy> ???
#1239 [12:14] <Boreeas> !check 85.165.102.183
#1240 [12:14] <TheNoodle> Don't worry, not you Nilsyboy.
#1241 [12:15] <Boreeas> <.<
#1242 [12:15] <TheNoodle> -_-
#1243 [12:15] <Boreeas> Q.Q
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#1245 [12:15] <Charli> TheNoodle: I think i got the message a while ago, im not recommending it btw
#1246 [12:16] <Charli> TheNoodle: I havd a go at my friend cause he wouldnt turn it off >:(
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#1248 [12:16] <TheNoodle> [01:05] Nilsyboy : oh,... so how can others join?
#1249 [12:16] <TheNoodle> [01:05] Charli : Via hamachi
#1250 [12:16] <Nilsyboy> suddenly dissafpierd
#1251 [12:16] <Nilsyboy> pared
#1252 [12:16] <Boreeas> TheNoodle: Ninja :(
#1253 [12:16] <TheNoodle> :3
#1254 [12:16] <Boreeas> Nilsyboy: What port did you forward?
#1255 [12:18] <Charli> I would like to know...
#1256 [12:18] <Charli> Can i accsess beta servers on minecraft online?
#1257 [12:18] * TheNoodle makes assumptions
#1257 [12:19] <TheNoodle> Public multiplayer servers are avaliable when you're playing minecraft in your browser yes.
#1258 [12:19] <Nilsyboy> 25565 i think
#1259 [12:19] <Charli> where do u type the ip?
#1260 [12:19] <Boreeas> Nilsyboy: Then you did not correctly forward it
#1261 [12:20] <Nilsyboy> i did not??
#1262 [12:21] <TheNoodle> The multiplayer button Charli.
#1263 [12:21] <TheNoodle> hmmm, anyone else getting error 324 for minecraft.net? :P
#1264 [12:21] <Charli> I cant go on minecraft.net
#1265 [12:21] <Nilsyboy> Boreeasn what did i do wrong?
#1266 [12:23] * Charli humms
#1266 [12:23] * Charli is just soooo boreeeed
#1266 [12:23] <Charli> Im banned from mc...
#1267 [12:24] <Charli> I was on it all night for 2 nights in a row xD
#1268 [12:24] <TheNoodle> I doubt it.
#1269 [12:24] <Charli> I swear on my life
#1270 [12:25] <Charli> I swear on my mums life
#1271 [12:25] <Charli> I swaer on everyones life!!!
#1272 [12:25] <Charli> *swear
#1273 [12:27] <almostroot> Charli: Using Windows?
#1274 [12:27] <almostroot> Charli: And the Minecraft homepage (www.minecraft.net) won't load?
#1275 [12:28] <Nilsyboy> Boreeas what was it that i had done wrong?
#1276 [12:28] <almostroot> ;pf
#1277 [12:28] <almostroot> :pf
#1278 [12:28] <WugBot> pf: You need to set up port forwarding on your router for people outside of your network to access your Minecraft server. First, find out your public ip address by issuing this command in this channel: ;ip
#1279 [12:28] <WugBot> pf: Then, locate the make and model of your router on this site for detailed instructions: http://goo.gl/DsVIL
#1280 [12:29] <Nilsyboy> ip
#1281 [12:29] <Nilsyboy> ;ip
#1282 [12:29] <Nilsyboy> :ip
#1283 [12:29] <almostroot> ;ip
#1284 [12:29] <WugBot> IP address of almostroot is: 161.109.255.80
#1285 [12:29] <almostroot> Nilsyboy: It's a semi-colon for that command, not a colon.
#1286 [12:29] <Nilsyboy> ;IP
#1287 [12:30] <Nilsyboy> ;ip
#1288 [12:30] <almostroot> Nilsyboy: ip is lowercase.
#1289 [12:30] <almostroot> Hmmm...
#1290 [12:30] <almostroot> ;ip Nilsyboy
#1291 [12:30] <WugBot> IP address of Nilsyboy is: 85.165.102.183
#1292 [12:30] <almostroot> Command restrictions.
#1293 [12:31] <Nilsyboy> should i do Portforwarding AGAIN? :P
#1294 [12:32] <almostroot> Nilsyboy: Is your Minecraft server on the same computer that you are playing Minecraft on?
#1295 [12:32] <wannabemac> ;ip
#1296 [12:32] <WugBot> IP address of wannabemac is: 71.163.24.247
#1297 [12:36] <Nilsyboy> yes, it is ;)
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#1302 [12:40] <sients2> bye
#1303 [12:40] <wannabemac> !check minecraft.clanrks.com
#1304 [12:41] <Nilsyboy> but again, what should i do to let people play on my server?
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#1306 [12:42] <ajr> After I load my world, it says saving chunks and then goes to a black screen
#1307 [12:43] <wannabemac> That is unfortunate.
#1308 [12:43] <wannabemac> What version of Java do you have?
#1309 [12:43] <ajr> the newest. I think its 6
#1310 [12:44] <wannabemac> What update?
#1311 [12:45] <ajr> Java SE 6 version 1.6
#1312 [12:45] <wannabemac> ??> ajr win/dxdiag
#1313 [12:45] <VoxelHead> ajr: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1314 [12:45] <VoxelHead> ajr: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1316 [12:45] <wannabemac> ajr do that for me.
#1317 [12:46] <ajr> is that for windows or mac? i have a mac
#1318 [12:46] <wannabemac> Oh...
#1319 [12:46] <wannabemac> Oops.
#1320 [12:46] <wannabemac> almostroot are you still there?
#1321 [12:47] <ajr> can you help me for a mac?
#1322 [12:47] <wannabemac> Myself, no.
#1323 [12:47] <wannabemac> But someone else can.
#1324 [12:47] <ajr> who
#1325 [12:47] <wannabemac> I hope someone else is on...
#1326 [12:47] <almostroot> Nilsyboy: Try using localhost to connect to your server instead of the IP address. If it works, check to make sure you have made an exception in your firewall, and that port forwarding is properly enabled.
#1327 [12:48] <wannabemac> almostroot ajr need some help, he is on a mac, that renders me useless.
#1328 [12:48] <almostroot> ajr: Install any mods or high-res texture packs?
#1329 [12:48] <ajr> yes but i have deleted them. I have tried to delete all my minecraft files and start over and i still get the black screen
#1330 [12:49] <almostroot> ??> ajr mac/reinst/tool
#1331 [12:49] <VoxelHead> ajr: (mac/reinst/tool) Here is a helpful tool to purge the preinstalled files for you: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/Minecraft_Reinstall.dmg
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#1336 [12:56] <aj> hey i was just asking about the black screen for mac. can you give me that link again?
#1337 [12:56] <Nilsyboy> almostroot , did not quite understand this: Try using localhost to connect to your server instead of the IP address
#1338 [12:56] <Nilsyboy> what do you mean by local hosting?
#1339 [12:57] <Nilsyboy> isnt that what im doing now?
#1340 [12:57] <Wug> Nilsyboy: connect to "localhost"
#1341 [12:57] <TheNoodle> type localhost in the server address box.
#1342 [12:57] <Nilsyboy> the server responded with an invalid server key
#1343 [12:57] <aj> after i load my world it says saving chunks and goes to a black screen
#1344 [12:58] <Nilsyboy> no, it worked :)
#1345 [12:58] <Nilsyboy> must have typed wrong
#1346 [12:58] <Wug> Nilsyboy: I told you how to update the server earlier, did you not do it
#1347 [12:58] <aj> can someone help me?
#1348 [12:58] <Nilsyboy> yes, i did :P pasted wrong, in the adress line
#1349 [12:59] <Nilsyboy> it works :)
#1350 [12:59] <Nilsyboy> Spelled wrong*
#1351 [12:59] <Nilsyboy> and what now? ;)
#1352 [13:05] <Wug> Nilsyboy: what do you mean now what
#1353 [13:05] <Wug> it works, right?
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#1355 [13:05] <Nilsyboy> yes, I can connect, but what about my friends? :P
#1356 [13:05] <Nilsyboy> thats the thing i have tried to get to work the last hour :P
#1357 [13:06] <Wug> port forwarding must be misconfigured
#1358 [13:06] <Wug> check that your router is forwarding to the correct internal ip
#1359 [13:07] <ellisgeek> Also try setting a static ip for the computer running the server so that the ip does not change and kill your port forwarding settings!
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#1361 [13:09] <Nilsyboy> "No port maps defined for this game or application." what the fffffffffffffffffffff....?
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#1363 [13:11] <ellisgeek> You did setup port forwarding of 25565 on your router as well as setup a hole in your firewall right?
#1364 [13:12] <Nilsyboy> yes, i did
#1365 [13:12] <ellisgeek> Hmm
#1366 [13:12] <Wug> :tv
#1367 [13:12] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1368 [13:12] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1369 [13:12] <ellisgeek> Is lo
#1370 [13:13] <ellisgeek> Is logmein hamachi an option.
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#1372 [13:13] <ellisgeek> :hamachi
#1373 [13:13] <WugBot> hamachi: Hamachi is sofrware designed to emulate a local area network over the internet. It can be used in specific situations to allow software that only works over such a local network to work over the internet.
#1374 [13:13] <WugBot> hamachi: Minecraft Servers work fine over the internet without hamachi (if they're set up correctly). Hamachi does nothing that minecraft does not already do, except add extra complications.
#1375 [13:13] <Nilsyboy> maby, but had been best with an online server
#1376 [13:15] <ellisgeek> I have seen a few situations where even with correct setup things still don't work right and I can't help u much without seeing your routers config
#1377 [13:16] * |Kiikun| blames it beign a thompson router
#1377 [13:16] * |Kiikun| is also getting ready to run to work!
#1377 [13:16] <Nilsyboy> how can i let you see my config then? prt screen?
#1378 [13:16] <ellisgeek> :pastebin
#1379 [13:16] <WugBot> pastebin: Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#1380 [13:18] <Nilsyboy> and what should i copy?
#1381 [13:18] <ellisgeek> Your logs, server.properties, etc
#1382 [13:19] <ellisgeek> Also post a screenshot of your routers portforward screen on imm.io
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#1385 [13:22] <conrad> hey is the server session down?
#1386 [13:22] <ellisgeek> .
#1387 [13:22] <ellisgeek> ?
#1388 [13:22] <conrad> cuz i cant join any servers.
#1389 [13:23] <Nilsyboy> http://pastebin.com/gV5jgNtc
#1390 [13:23] <Nilsyboy> this?
#1391 [13:23] <conrad> uh...
#1392 [13:24] <conrad> what?
#1393 [13:24] <Nilsyboy> not talking to you ;)
#1394 [13:24] <ellisgeek> Yes the auth servers are down for minecraft
#1395 [13:24] <conrad> ok.
#1396 [13:24] <conrad> tcrap.
#1397 [13:24] <conrad> when will they be up?\
#1398 [13:24] <ellisgeek> Well all looks fine in the log
#1399 [13:25] <Nilsyboy> it does...
#1400 [13:25] <conrad> ?
#1401 [13:25] <ellisgeek> Er when mojang fixes them
#1402 [13:25] <ellisgeek> Ya
#1403 [13:25] <conrad> ok... thnx....
#1404 [13:25] <ellisgeek> Do u have a screenshot of your portforward config on your router?
#1405 [13:26] <Nilsyboy> yea, but couldnt upload it with the picture uploader you sent em
#1406 [13:26] <Nilsyboy> me
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#1408 [13:27] <ellisgeek> Hmm what did it say?
#1409 [13:27] <Nilsyboy> A error occurred while trying to upload your image, please try again later. (scaling failed)
#1410 [13:27] <ellisgeek> Well idk try again?
#1411 [13:31] <Nilsyboy> http://tinypic.com/r/24o85xy/5
#1412 [13:31] <Nilsyboy> try this
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#1414 [13:32] <ellisgeek> Ok
#1415 [13:34] <ellisgeek> Click on the first action the assign a game or application on then gimme another screenshot pls
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#1417 [13:39] <Nilsyboy> http://i40.tinypic.com/2yw6zvm.png
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#1421 [13:43] <ellisgeek> Can I get a screenshot of the firewall settings page please?
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#1423 [13:43] <Helpzzzzzzzz> Hey guys my minecraft crashed after i tried to install Mo' creatures :/
#1424 [13:44] <ellisgeek> :mods
#1425 [13:44] <WugBot> mods: This channel provides support for the vanilla (unmodded) version of minecraft. If you are having trouble playing one of the first things we'll ask you to do is remove any texture packs or mods.
#1426 [13:44] <WugBot> mods: Support for bukkit can be found in #bukkit. Most usually come with instructions, make sure you read them. Also, you can try youtube for video tutorials.
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#1428 [13:46] <Helpzzzzzzzz> how do i delete mods?
#1429 [13:46] <MM4005> I cant connect to the main minecraft website. all i get it internal error 500
#1430 [13:46] <ellisgeek> On your keyb
#1431 [13:46] <Helpzzzzzzzz> "force update"?
#1432 [13:46] <ellisgeek> Yes
#1433 [13:46] <MM4005> I cant connect to the main minecraft website. all i get it internal error 500
#1434 [13:47] <MM4005> hello?
#1435 [13:47] <ellisgeek> Mojang is more than likely working on it just give it time
#1436 [13:47] <MM4005> okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
#1437 [13:47] <MM4005> okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
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#1439 [13:50] <Helpzzzzzzzz> :D :D
#1440 [13:50] <ellisgeek> ?
#1441 [13:50] <Helpzzzzzzzz> im gonna download single player commands again but not mo creatures :D
#1442 [13:50] <Helpzzzzzzzz> is ther a channel for minecraft mod help?
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#1444 [13:50] <ellisgeek> Have u ever installed mods before?
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#1451 [14:04] <ellisgeek> AFK!
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#1461 [14:57] <libraryaddict> I cant connect to MCF. It just says Connection was reset 5secs after attempting. Sometimes I can connect
#1462 [14:58] <libraryaddict> Is there a answer to this?
#1463 [14:58] <libraryaddict> Router has been reset already
#1464 [14:59] <Periwinkle> is minecraft.net down?
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#1468 [15:05] <mib_sxymtq> I downloades minecraft pocket for my iPhone via iTunes, but the program will not install on my iPhone. What can I do?
#1469 [15:08] <mib_sxymtq> Maybe this isn't the kind of question you might have an answer for?
#1470 [15:09] <Morrolan> Uh, I don't have any experience with Minecraft pocket edition whatsoever, so that might be a bit difficult. :P
#1471 [15:09] <Morrolan> Could very well be that someone here has used that before though, so I suggest waiting some more. :)
#1472 [15:09] <mib_sxymtq> Ah thanks.
#1473 [15:09] <Morrolan> I assume you are able to install other apps just fine?
#1474 [15:11] <mib_sxymtq> Yes, never had any problem.
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#1476 [15:15] <SoulWithin> Is minecraft.net down, if so when will it be back up?
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#1478 [15:15] <xales> It's having difficulty due to the holiday traffic, just be patient
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#1480 [15:16] <Mathuin_> Doors can apparently be used to create air pockets underwater. Can glass panes do the same?
#1481 [15:17] <xales> Mathuin_: The only things I know of that do that is doors and signs. I haven't tried with anything else
#1482 [15:19] <Mathuin_> I will give it a try at home.
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#1484 [15:27] <Morrolan> Fences will work too from what I recall.
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#1486 [15:27] <Morrolan> Reed might work.
#1487 [15:28] <Mathuin_> I have bunches of fences, and there's something ironic about holding back the sea with a fence.
#1488 [15:28] <Mathuin_> Iron bars?
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#1490 [15:39] <Morrolan> Yea, they'll work too I presume.
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#1492 [15:40] <Jammy> Anyone know of a plugin that will let me type in a material name and it will give me it's material id back?
#1493 [15:42] <Morrolan> WorldEdit has a "/search" function which will do that in both directions, but it'd be kind of an overkill to install it for this sole purpose. :P
#1494 [15:42] <Morrolan> So unless you've got it installed - try askin in #bukkit
#1495 [15:42] <Morrolan> askiN*
#1496 [15:42] <Morrolan> asking**
#1497 [15:42] <Jammy> the server i am on appears to have worldedit so it's all good :P
#1498 [15:42] <Morrolan> Even better. :)
#1499 [15:43] <Morrolan> Might be that the owner has to give you permission to use that command first, but that shouldn't be much of an issue - after all it's no "dangerous" command.
#1500 [15:43] <Mathuin_> Does /search support IDs added by mods?
#1501 [15:44] <Morrolan> Uh, are there any bukkit-compatible mods which add new items?
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#1503 [15:44] <Morrolan> I don't know whether it'd support these, but it'd be wroth trying.
#1504 [15:44] <Morrolan> worth*
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#1515 [16:22] <jorr> hello?
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#1517 [16:26] <Morrolan> hello jorr
#1518 [16:27] <jorr> sup dawg
#1519 [16:30] <Morrolan> the sky, brah.
#1520 [16:32] <jorr> a skyward sword?
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#1522 [16:34] <mib_cw4d5j> ??< corruptedsaverecovery
#1523 [16:34] <mib_cw4d5j> Danke shorn, Vox
#1524 [16:34] <Morrolan> An arrow, jorr, an arrow.
#1525 [16:34] <Morrolan> An arrow, jorr, an arrow.
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#1527 [16:39] <Boreeas> Morrolan: To the knee?
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#1529 [16:45] <wannabemac> Hello.
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#1531 [16:49] <Morrolan> Yea, Boreeas. It hurt pretty much.
#1532 [16:49] <Morrolan> hello wannabemac
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#1535 [16:50] <Goyface> hi
#1536 [16:50] <wannabemac> Hello.
#1537 [16:50] <jorr> sup
#1538 [16:51] <Goyface> I'm looking for a group of minecraft players, (< 10) to play the game with, I have no idea how to use IRC and was wondering if anyone here could help
#1539 [16:51] <Goyface> *Small group
#1540 [16:52] <wannabemac> What do you exactly want help with?
#1541 [16:53] <Goyface> Well, Someone to point me in the right direction to find a group of players. And a detailed IRC tutorial (The one on Minecraftforum.net didn't really help me)
#1542 [16:55] <wannabemac> We are not here to help you with IRC, just use minecraftforum.net to find a group of players.
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#1545 [16:56] <TheNytangel> ??> modnotworking forceupdate
#1546 [16:57] <VoxelHead> modnotworking: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1547 [16:57] <VoxelHead> modnotworking: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1548 [16:57] <modnotworking> plz can some help me dowlold the mo creatures mod
#1549 [16:57] <wannabemac> ??> modnotworking mods
#1550 [16:58] <VoxelHead> modnotworking: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1551 [16:58] <VoxelHead> modnotworking: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1552 [16:58] <TheNytangel> wannabemac: I can help him...
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#1554 [16:58] <TheNytangel> modnotworking: did you install modloader?
#1555 [16:58] <wannabemac> I can too, but that is not the purpose of this channel.
#1556 [16:58] <Thor> i have that dowloding terrain problem what to do
#1557 [16:58] <TheNytangel> Why not?
#1558 [16:58] <modnotworking> no what is that
#1559 [16:58] <wannabemac> Please elaborate Thor.
#1560 [16:59] <TheNytangel> modnotworking: I suggest you watch some youtube videos or something to help you install mo' creatures
#1561 [16:59] <modnotworking> i did but it wont work sill
#1562 [16:59] <TheNytangel> modnotworking: did you install modloader and audio mod..
#1563 [17:00] <modnotworking> i think
#1564 [17:00] <TheNytangel> modnotworking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jikny2Lvzdg
#1565 [17:00] <modnotworking> yes i saw that one
#1566 [17:00] <TheNytangel> Lol he sounds like larry the cucumber with a deep voice
#1567 [17:01] <modnotworking> yes ik
#1568 [17:01] <TheNytangel> modnotworking: I'll pm you
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#1571 [17:12] <irishitalian> Can more than 1 family member play together on minecraft using the same IP?
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#1573 [17:14] <Scott> you will need multiple accounts if you want to play at the same time
#1574 [17:15] <irishitalian> O.K. Thank you, Scott...that helped a lot! Have a wonderful Holiday!
#1575 [17:15] <Scott> you too!
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#1579 [17:29] <mohawk> Hello
#1580 [17:29] <data91> hey
#1581 [17:29] <mohawk> today i tried to upload my skin
#1582 [17:29] <mohawk> and i cant
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#1584 [17:30] <TheNytangel> What does it say?
#1585 [17:30] <mohawk> i am trying to upload my skin from 3D skin editor
#1586 [17:30] <data91> the skin for your character or a texture pack?
#1587 [17:30] <mohawk> skin of my character
#1588 [17:30] <TheNytangel> What does it say?
#1589 [17:31] <mohawk> the name of program is ,,MCskin3D v2.5
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#1591 [17:31] <TheNytangel> What does it say when you try and upload it
#1592 [17:31] <mohawk> error with sending a skin time limit expanse
#1593 [17:31] <mohawk> or something
#1594 [17:31] <mohawk> i quite really dont know how to translate
#1595 [17:31] <TheNytangel> Can you save it to your computer and then upload it from minecraft.net?
#1596 [17:32] <mohawk> yes i can
#1597 [17:32] <TheNytangel> Then why don't you do that?
#1598 [17:32] <mohawk> can i please u for link where to upload?
#1599 [17:32] <mohawk> coz i am quite nooby internet user
#1600 [17:32] <TheNytangel> Go to your profile on minecraft.net
#1601 [17:32] <wannabemac> lol
#1602 [17:32] <TheNytangel> And there will be a little "Browse..." button
#1603 [17:34] <mohawk> quite strange it wont load
#1604 [17:34] <mohawk> the minecraft.net page
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#1606 [17:35] <TheNytangel> http://minecraft.net/profile
#1607 [17:38] * TheNytangel needs to go play games
#1607 [17:38] <mohawk> thanks
#1608 [17:38] <mohawk> peace from poland
#1609 [17:38] <TheNytangel> wannabemac: help him more if he needs it.. doesn't look like it
#1610 [17:38] <TheNytangel> I'm off to my desktop
#1611 [17:39] <wannabemac> Who?
#1612 [17:39] <wannabemac> Oh mohawk, well he left.
#1613 [17:39] <wannabemac> C ya.
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#1615 [17:46] <MCPTest> hey can I get some help with IRC and java implementation?
#1616 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> Come again?
#1617 [17:48] <MCPTest> I need help with the joining of an IRC channel in java (related to minecraft because it is an in game private chat)
#1618 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> You may find more help in a channel like #mcp or #mcp-modding for that
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#1620 [17:50] <MCPTest> thank you
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#1622 [18:00] <wannabemac> Hello.
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#1624 [18:06] <mib_y6ezts> I just downloaded Minecraft on my computer. It says it needs to update since the jar file is 1.4, we try but it fails after 1 second. What should I do?
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#1626 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> What does it fail with? Do you get an actual error?
#1627 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> What does it fail with? Do you get an actual error?
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#1629 [18:07] <mib_y6ezts> t says it cant download the update. it says 'failed to load amozawns'
#1630 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> Could you give me the full error?
#1631 [18:08] <mib_y6ezts> (4) s3.amazonsaws.com
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#1633 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Is that the entire thing?
#1634 [18:08] <mib_y6ezts> Yes
#1635 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Is it a fatal error (4), or a connection reset, refused?
#1636 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> There's nothing after the s3.amazonsaws.com?
#1637 [18:09] <mib_y6ezts> fatal error (4)
#1638 [18:10] <ThePureKid> My minecraft launcher isn't working were the big Minecraft sign is black but I can log for a bit then it says Minecraft has Crashed! But the logo is Java
#1639 [18:11] <ThePureKid> How I fix it?
#1640 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> mib_y6ezts - Did you purchase a minecraft account?
#1641 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> ThePureKid - Do you get an error report?
#1642 [18:11] <ThePureKid> Ya I purchased it
#1643 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> ThePureKid - Do you get an error report?
#1644 [18:12] <mib_y6ezts> Yes i have been playing since alpha i just want to download it onto a new comuter
#1645 [18:12] <ThePureKid> Ya error report I sent bug thing to Java
#1646 [18:12] <ThePureKid> Mojang sorry
#1647 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> ThePureKid - We're not Java. Could you paste the error report to pastebin.com, submit it, then give us the URL so that we can read it?
#1648 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> We're also not Mojang.
#1649 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_y6ezts - Did you redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download onto the new computer?
#1650 [18:13] <mib_y6ezts> Yes we did that a bunch of times
#1651 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_y6ezts - What operating system are you on? What security software do you run?
#1652 [18:14] <mib_y6ezts> Im windows 7. mcafe
#1653 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_y6ezts - Have you tried going to your start menu, in the search bar, typing in: %appdata%
#1654 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> Press enter, find the .minecraft folder, and deleting everything inside except for saves. then trying minecraft again?
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#1656 [18:15] <mib_y6ezts> Why do i need to go there?
#1657 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_y6ezts - That is where minecraft saves its files to
#1658 [18:16] <mib_y6ezts> ohh
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#1660 [18:16] <charmander> I just signed up to play, i set up an account, but when I try to play, it goes to a black screen and does nothing.
#1661 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> charmander - Operating system? Are you trying classic or premium?
#1662 [18:17] <charmander> I am not seeing any error message, it just sits there
#1663 [18:17] <charmander> Windows 7
#1664 [18:17] <charmander> Windows 7 premium
#1665 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Are you trying classic or premium?
#1666 [18:17] <charmander> premium
#1667 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> So you've paid for an account?
#1668 [18:17] <charmander> yes
#1669 [18:18] <mib_y6ezts> It worked! Thank you!
#1670 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried the downloadable client charmander?
#1671 [18:18] * GreyVulpine tips hat at mib_y6ezts
#1671 [18:18] <charmander> no, wanted to play online
#1672 [18:18] <charmander> do I need to install client first?
#1673 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> You can play online using the downloadable client as well
#1674 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> It might give us a better idea of why it's doing this
#1675 [18:18] <wannabemac> ?
#1676 [18:19] <charmander> okay, I will try that, thanks
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#1682 [18:38] * lemon-rev minecraft acually did something correct for a change lol, marry x-mas! lol < wow that acually could be stated correctly, first time in mc for something correct :P
#1682 [18:42] <wannabemac> LOL
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#1689 [18:51] <Monkeyhead> help me when i logged into minecraft it sad that minecraft has crashed
#1690 [18:52] <lemon-rev> monkey make sure java is up todate and has mc worked before ?
#1691 [18:53] <Monkeyhead> well i tried to install mc but it dosent work and thanks i may of just havent updated java
#1692 [18:54] <TheNytangel> lemon-rev: I'm bored :(
#1693 [18:55] <wannabemac> TheNytangel: Play Minecraft.
#1694 [18:55] <TheNytangel> But that's boring at the moment..
#1695 [18:55] <wannabemac> Play on a server.
#1696 [18:55] <TheNytangel> But I just steal everyone's stuff.. and then that gets boring and I leave
#1697 [18:56] <wannabemac> I have my own server, so I use that.
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#1700 [18:57] <TheNytangel> And I just devoured a giant chocolate bar... and I'm bored again :(
#1701 [18:58] <TheNytangel> And still hungry..
#1702 [18:58] <wannabemac> Sounds good.
#1703 [18:58] <wannabemac> Nom Nom Nom.
#1704 [19:02] <TheNytangel> Team fortress 2 gets so boring and.. not fun with a 200+ ping
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#1708 [19:03] <wannabemac> Sleep.
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#1714 [19:21] <CrazyNinja0> hi i have a question
#1715 [19:21] <CrazyNinja0> every time i try to joing my own server with the localhost command i cant get in.
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#1717 [19:22] <bellows> can someone help me minecraft crashed for me when i logged in
#1718 [19:22] <CrazyNinja0> i get a black screen
#1719 [19:22] <CrazyNinja0> @bellows try reloding it
#1720 [19:24] <wannabemac> CrazyNinja0, did you install any mods?
#1721 [19:24] <wannabemac> bellows, does it always do this?
#1722 [19:24] <CrazyNinja0> yeah the yogbox
#1723 [19:24] <CrazyNinja0> for single player
#1724 [19:24] <wannabemac> Are you on a PC or mac CrazyNinja0?
#1725 [19:24] <CrazyNinja0> pc
#1726 [19:25] <wannabemac> Did you delete the META-INF folder in the minecraft.jar?
#1727 [19:25] <CrazyNinja0> no
#1728 [19:25] <wannabemac> You need to delete that for the mod to work.
#1729 [19:25] <wannabemac> For any mod to work.
#1730 [19:25] <bellows> i just installed a mod and i was about to play it but it crashed how can i play minecraft now
#1731 [19:26] <CrazyNinja0> the yogbox is not for multiplayer
#1732 [19:26] <CrazyNinja0> its single player mod
#1733 [19:26] <CrazyNinja0> this is multiplayer server
#1734 [19:26] <wannabemac> It does not matter, CrazyNinja0, you still need to delete META-INF
#1735 [19:26] <CrazyNinja0> ok
#1736 [19:26] <wannabemac> Force update bellows.
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#1738 [19:26] <CrazyNinja0> in the %appdata% minecraft. file
#1739 [19:26] <wannabemac> ?
#1740 [19:27] <wannabemac> How did you install this mod?
#1741 [19:27] <CrazyNinja0> it has its own installer with java
#1742 [19:27] <CrazyNinja0> it called the yogbox
#1743 [19:27] <wannabemac> Try force updating and do it again.
#1744 [19:28] <CrazyNinja0> https://yogscast.com/showthread.php?11841-YogBox-1.0.0-v1.2-A-carefully-chosen-compilation-of-good-mods
#1745 [19:28] <clarjon1> oh
#1746 [19:28] <CrazyNinja0> thats the link
#1747 [19:28] <CrazyNinja0> ok
#1748 [19:28] <clarjon1> CrazyNinja0: do you have j6 or j7
#1749 [19:28] <CrazyNinja0> seven i thik
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#1751 [19:29] <clarjon1> cuz the yogbox mods have at least one that requires j7
#1752 [19:29] <wannabemac> I do not suggest Java 7.
#1753 [19:29] <CrazyNinja0> how do i check what version
#1754 [19:29] <clarjon1> ??< index
#1755 [19:30] <clarjon1> ??> CrazyNinja0 java/version
#1756 [19:30] <VoxelHead> CrazyNinja0: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1757 [19:30] <VoxelHead> CrazyNinja0: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1758 [19:30] <wannabemac> Dang it, yuo beat me to it.
#1759 [19:30] <wannabemac> you*
#1760 [19:30] <clarjon1> wannabemac: personally i'm running j7 32 + 64 bits and minecraft is working great for me.
#1761 [19:30] <wannabemac> ??< linux/dontdothis
#1762 [19:31] <CrazyNinja0> Version 6 Update 29
#1763 [19:31] <clarjon1> ??< linux/dontdothis
#1764 [19:31] <CrazyNinja0> thats mine
#1765 [19:31] <clarjon1> CrazyNinja0: mmm. like i said, there's at least one yogbox mod that requires j7 now.
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#1767 [19:31] <CrazyNinja0> and that will give me a black screen when i try to load my server map
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#1771 [19:33] <CrazyNinja0> do the mods now work in multiplayer???
#1772 [19:36] <bellows> can someone please help me now mine craft crashe for me what do i do
#1773 [19:37] <CrazyNinja0> say clarjon1 do mods work in the multiplayer server
#1774 [19:37] <Scott> CrazyNinja0: We don't support mods here, sorry.
#1775 [19:38] <Scott> bellows: Hi.
#1776 [19:38] <Scott> Can you be more specific?
#1777 [19:38] <CrazyNinja0> no im asking a question
#1778 [19:38] <clarjon1> CrazyNinja0: If you have trouble with the multiplayer mods, go contact yogs
#1779 [19:38] <CrazyNinja0> im not
#1780 [19:38] <clarjon1> and yeah
#1781 [19:38] <CrazyNinja0> ok
#1782 [19:38] <CrazyNinja0> well im updationg j7 now
#1783 [19:39] <bellows> uhh can someone tell me what to do when minecraft crashes right vwhen you log in
#1784 [19:40] <CrazyNinja0> reinstall
#1785 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> bellows - Do you get an error report?
#1786 [19:40] <CrazyNinja0> and allow it through the firewall
#1787 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> Any files named hs_err_pid that generate where you have the launcher?
#1788 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> CrazyNinja0 - And what if it's java? Or video drivers? Or something else?
#1789 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Don't just throw around solutions without knowing what the problem is exactly in the first place.
#1790 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Don't just throw around solutions without knowing what the problem is exactly in the first place.
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#1793 [19:42] <CrazyNinja0> i had the same issue that what i did and it worked
#1794 [19:42] <CrazyNinja0> chill
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#1796 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Don't assume that it's the same error you're getting. Black screens and crash errors aren't always what you experieneced.
#1797 [19:43] <CrazyNinja0> whateve
#1798 [19:43] <Burning_Blade> Hey; I have Ubuntu installed on my laptop, and attempted to play Minecraft both online and on a download, yet it won't work. I downloaded the Linux-JAR file, but it still doesn't want to work.
#1799 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> If you want to provide technical support here, at least have an idea of where to start
#1800 [19:44] <Burning_Blade> Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
#1801 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Burning_Blade - Could you elaborate on, "Doesn't want to work" means?
#1802 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> How exactly are you trying to launch minecraft, and what exactly is it doing, or not doing?
#1803 [19:46] <Burning_Blade> Well, when I'm online, the screen would show the minecraft load screen for a second, but then become completely white. On the download, minecraft won't actually open no matter what application I use-- it always just says Error
#1804 [19:46] <Burning_Blade> I could get the Technical Error Report if it would help more.
#1805 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Do you get a more verbose error message?
#1806 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Please do, post it on pastebin.com and give us the URL
#1807 [19:46] <Burning_Blade> Alright.
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#1809 [19:47] <Cookiemonster> Hi
#1810 [19:48] <Guest16360> Im trying to install java 7 for minecraft but i dont know which one to download
#1811 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> :j
#1812 [19:48] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#1813 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1814 [19:48] <Guest16360> i have that but a yogbox guy said to get version 7
#1815 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Alright then. What operating system are you on Ninja?
#1816 [19:49] <Guest16360> Windows 7
#1817 [19:49] <Guest16360> 64 bit
#1818 [19:49] <clarjon1> I have that.
#1819 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-7u2-download-1377135.html
#1820 [19:49] <clarjon1> You'll want both 32 and 64bit javas
#1821 [19:49] <Guest16360> its a cool master 450 gb coustom pc
#1822 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Download the windows x86 and x64 from there
#1823 [19:50] <clarjon1> 32bit for the browsers, 64bit for java apps
#1824 [19:50] <clarjon1> Install x86 first, then x64
#1825 [19:50] <clarjon1> so that the paths will be set up properly.
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#1827 [19:50] <Guest16360> ok
#1828 [19:50] <Guest16360> what if i did 64 first
#1829 [19:51] <Guest16360> does it matter or should i untistall it
#1830 [19:51] <clarjon1> not recommended.
#1831 [19:51] <Ellico> Hi, have just purchased Minecraft and installed but when try to go into 'Singleplayer' cannot connect.
#1832 [19:51] <clarjon1> it might work but, it might default java apps to the 32bit since it was installed most recently.
#1833 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> Ellico - Cannot connect how? What happens?
#1834 [19:51] <clarjon1> Ellico: what's your minecraft username?
#1835 [19:52] <Ellico> get response that there was a problem connecting and it will try and open in another window. Does this about 3 times and then just advises can't connect
#1836 [19:52] <clarjon1> and how long ago was the purchase?
#1837 [19:52] <clarjon1> oooh, sounds like a firewall...
#1838 [19:52] <Burning_Blade> GreyVulpine, here is the URL
#1839 [19:52] <Burning_Blade> http://pastebin.com/Twsv0DJX
#1840 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, what version of java do you have installed?
#1841 [19:54] <Guest16360> so which x86 do i want
#1842 [19:54] <Burning_Blade> I think 7
#1843 [19:54] <clarjon1> Guest16360: if you're on windows, you'll need the windows one -_-
#1844 [19:54] <Guest16360> the 18.35 mb or the smaller one or both
#1845 [19:54] <clarjon1> either or
#1846 [19:55] <Guest16360> yeah it has 2 x86
#1847 [19:55] <Guest16360> online or offline
#1848 [19:55] <clarjon1> Guest16360: either or.
#1849 [19:55] <clarjon1> Guest16360: doesn't matter.
#1850 [19:55] <Guest16360> ok
#1851 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Burning_Blade - Could you try with Sun/oracle java's 6?
#1852 [19:55] <clarjon1> One is the whole thing, one is an app that downloads the whole thing.
#1853 [19:55] <Burning_Blade> Sure; I'll be back in a moment with results.
#1854 [19:56] <Guest16360> once its done how do i make minecraft run with ver. 7
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#1860 [19:58] <Guest16360> anybody?
#1861 [19:58] <Kendall> I have installed Minecraft but now nothing happens. Does anyone know what the problem might be?
#1862 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Guest16360 - If you installed it right, minecraft should launch with 7.
#1863 [19:59] <Guest16360> ok
#1864 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - What operating system are you on?
#1865 [19:59] <Kendall> We are on XP
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#1867 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Do you have java installed? Check by going to:
#1868 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> ?? java/version
#1869 [19:59] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1870 [19:59] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
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#1872 [20:00] <Kendall> It is checking..........
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#1874 [20:00] <Burning_Blade> GreyVulpine I tried with both Java 6 and 7 again, and it just gave me this error http://pastebin.com/0F8b0Eh4
#1875 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> If your system does not have java, please install it from java.com
#1876 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> Burning_Blade - Why are you using minecraft.exe on a linux system?
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#1878 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> Burning_Blade - Try the minecraft.jar from minecraft.net/download
#1879 [20:01] <Burning_Blade> I tried taht, but it says the exact same error
#1880 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> Execute it using the command line given on that page
#1881 [20:02] <Burning_Blade> Oh, ok. Sorry, I'm really new to Linux ^_^"
#1882 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> It gives you the same error? Could you try that and pastebin it?
#1883 [20:02] <Thunderhead38> Hey, I just downloaded minecraft and it keeps crashing. Could someone give me a hand?
#1884 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Thunderhead38 - Got any error reports
#1885 [20:02] <Thunderhead38> Exceptions.
#1886 [20:02] <Thunderhead38> Access violations.
#1887 [20:02] <Thunderhead38> Textpad documents dumped onto my desktop...
#1888 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Please post them at www.pastebin.com, submit it, then give us the URL so that we can read it
#1889 [20:02] <Thunderhead38> Following minecraft abruptly disappearing.
#1890 [20:02] <Thunderhead38> okay.
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#1892 [20:03] <CrazyNinja0> yeah so i got a error message connected with a invalid server key
#1893 [20:03] <CrazyNinja0> the the black screen
#1894 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Invalid server key means the server is running an old 1.0.0 release.
#1895 [20:04] <CrazyNinja0> so force update minecraft
#1896 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> If you're running the server, I'd recommend updating the server itself. If not, tell the person running the server to update to 1.0.1
#1897 [20:04] <CrazyNinja0> i just donwloaded the software from minecraft.net
#1898 [20:04] <Thunderhead38> I can't access the site you just showed a link to...
#1899 [20:04] <Thunderhead38> It won't open.
#1900 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Thunderhead38 - http://www.pastebin.com
#1901 [20:05] <Thunderhead38> Not working...
#1902 [20:05] <KOM> GreyVulpine: i just tried that link
#1903 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> CrazyNinja0 - The minecraft_server.exe from minecraft.net/download is 1.0.0
#1904 [20:05] <KOM> it's not working either
#1905 [20:05] <Thunderhead38> Cached copy?
#1906 [20:05] <CrazyNinja0> yup
#1907 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> If you want 1.0.1, you'll need to download and run minecraft_server.jar
#1908 [20:05] <Thunderhead38> Ah, looks like that worked. Trying it out.
#1909 [20:06] <CrazyNinja0> where do i get that?
#1910 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> CrazyNinja0 - Same page. minecraft.net/download
#1911 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Download, run with batch file
#1912 [20:06] <Thunderhead38> I can't load the updated version... What am I supposed to do on that pastebin site?
#1913 [20:06] <Kendall> GREYVULPINE- While I am installing Java, let me ask you... if Minecraft requires 1 GIG to run and that is all the RAM we have, does that mean we can have nothing else running while playing that game?
#1914 [20:06] <CrazyNinja0> so make a batchfile and run the server with the .bat file
#1915 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - You can attempt to run minecraft with reduced RAM arguments. What operating system?
#1916 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> CrazyNinja0 - Yes
#1917 [20:06] <CrazyNinja0> ok
#1918 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Thunderhead38 - Copy the entire error to pastebin.com's text box, submit it, then give us the URL
#1919 [20:07] <Kendall> XP with 1 gig of RAM
#1920 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Follow these instructions: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#1921 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> -Xms is starting allocation, -Xmx is max
#1922 [20:07] <Thunderhead38> Where's the text box?
#1923 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Those instructions force minecraft to run with 256 megs of RAM
#1924 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Thunderhead38 - Are you at www.pastebin.com?
#1925 [20:07] <Thunderhead38> Yes...
#1926 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Thunderhead38 - There should be a text box under 'Create new paste", yes?
#1927 [20:08] <wannabemac> My minecraft has used over 1 gb of ram at times.
#1928 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Above "Optional paste options"?
#1929 [20:08] <Thunderhead38> Oops! Google Chrome could not find pastebin.com
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#1931 [20:08] <Thunderhead38> That's all it says.
#1932 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Strange...
#1933 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Alright, let's try another site, go to http://pastie.org/
#1934 [20:09] <Thunderhead38> Now that I loaded successfully.
#1935 [20:09] <Thunderhead38> By the way, the text file comes in about four different forms now and then...
#1936 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Very strange, meh. Just paste the contents of the text document containing the error report there
#1937 [20:09] <Thunderhead38> Should I just post one of them?
#1938 [20:09] <Kendall> what does pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh do???
#1939 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Paste the latest
#1940 [20:09] <Thunderhead38> All right.
#1941 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Go there, read it
#1942 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Those are instructions on how to launch minecraft using a batch file, to tell it how to run with reduced RAM arguments
#1943 [20:10] <Thunderhead38> All right... Now click paste?
#1944 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Thunderhead38 - Yes
#1945 [20:10] <Thunderhead38> Done.
#1946 [20:10] <Kendall> Oh.. ok. But I don't HAVE to if it runs ok, right?
#1947 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Thunderhead38 - Now give us the new http:// address in your browser's address bar
#1948 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Kendall -Right
#1949 [20:10] <Thunderhead38> Look at all the colors...
#1950 [20:10] <Thunderhead38> ? On which tab?
#1951 [20:10] <Thunderhead38> Oh, that
#1952 [20:10] <Thunderhead38> Okay.
#1953 [20:10] <Thunderhead38> http://pastie.org/3064883
#1954 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Thank you, one moment
#1955 [20:10] <Kendall> THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!
#1956 [20:11] <Clownhead> can someone help me minecraft crashed for me and ho do i fix it
#1957 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Thunderhead38 - Oh wow, that is a seriously old machine.
#1958 [20:11] <Thunderhead38> ...
#1959 [20:11] <Thunderhead38> It's what I've got...
#1960 [20:11] <Thunderhead38> It plays Half Life 2...
#1961 [20:11] <Thunderhead38> But that doesn't make a difference, does it?
#1962 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Thunderhead38 - half a gig of RAM, running on windows XP, sp3..
#1963 [20:12] <Thunderhead38> So is there no way to make this PC run minecraft properly?
#1964 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> The problem is most likely with an outdated Video card for you. Minecraft runs on OpenGL.
#1965 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, your video card, or video drivers, do not support the version of OpenGL needed to run minecraft properly.
#1966 [20:12] <Thunderhead38> All right... I'm already trying to fix that... It's a little complicated, but I'm working on it.
#1967 [20:13] <Thunderhead38> ATI Mobility Radeon 9600.
#1968 [20:13] <Thunderhead38> That's my current one.
#1969 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, the 9000 series have been known around here to be kinda crap.
#1970 [20:13] <Thunderhead38> All right...
#1971 [20:14] <Thunderhead38> I'll try bookmarking this page to get back to it after I restart my computer. I'm going to try using an update thing...
#1972 [20:14] <Kendall> ONE MORE QUESTION... what is the difference between running Minecraft in "Browser" vs. "Download"? (I've never done this before)
#1973 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> I'd recommend trying minecraft on another computer, if you have access to it
#1974 [20:14] <Thunderhead38> I do, but not for games. My dad's encountered far too many viruses to trust even the most harmless game.
#1975 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - No real difference, they both use the same files. It's just personal preference if you want to play minecraft in a browser (like in a public setting/computer).
#1976 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> or a downloadable client
#1977 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> Thunderhead38 - Understandable.
#1978 [20:15] <Kendall> Ok, thanks. Have a great CHRISTMAS!
#1979 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> To you as well.
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#1981 [20:16] <Clownhead> con someone tell me how to fix minecraft after it crashes
#1982 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Do you get any error reports? Any crash logs?
#1983 [20:17] <Clownhead> i got an error report
#1984 [20:17] <Kendall> I'm back. What does this message mean? "Bad video card drivers! Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers."
#1985 [20:17] <tyteen4a03> Clownhead: Can you submit it to pastebin.com?
#1986 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Means either you have outdated video drivers, or you do not have enough RAM to share with an integrated video card
#1987 [20:17] <tyteen4a03> Kendall: You need to update your video card drivers, can you give us a dxdiag?
#1988 [20:17] <Thunderhead38> Well, I'm going to try the restart now. See you in a minute... Hopefully...
#1989 [20:18] <Clownhead> uh ok i never tried that before
#1990 [20:18] <tyteen4a03> ??> Kendall win/dxdiag
#1991 [20:18] <VoxelHead> Kendall: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1992 [20:18] <VoxelHead> Kendall: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1993 [20:18] <Kendall> what the heck is a dxdiag?
#1994 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Clownhead - Copy the error report. Go to http://www.pastebin.com and paste it in the text box there. Submit it, then give us the URL so that we may read it
#1995 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - It's a report from your computer that you can generate and give to others to let them know what specifications your computer has
#1996 [20:18] <tyteen4a03> Kendall: please follow VoxelHead's instructions above
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#1999 [20:21] <Clownhead> ive submited it now what do i do
#2000 [20:21] <tyteen4a03> Clownhead: give us the address of the current page you are at
#2001 [20:21] <Clownhead> http://pastebin.com/TH98wEZT
#2002 [20:21] <tyteen4a03> hang on
#2003 [20:22] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: pastebin decided to not load for me, can you look at it?
#2004 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> It's a modloader issue
#2005 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: cfgGrassFix
#2006 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> at ModLoader.init(ModLoader.java:844)
#2007 [20:23] <Kendall> What is the IRC channel? Where am I pasting this link?
#2008 [20:23] <Clownhead> ive just deleated all of my mods
#2009 [20:23] <tyteen4a03> Kendall: here
#2010 [20:23] <tyteen4a03> Clownhead: You will need to reinstall your Minecraft installation.
#2011 [20:23] <tyteen4a03> ??> Clownhead forceupdate
#2012 [20:23] <VoxelHead> Clownhead: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2013 [20:23] <VoxelHead> Clownhead: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2014 [20:24] <Kendall> http://pastebin.com/PPJy5Q83
#2015 [20:25] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: would OpenGL 1.4 work with MC?
#2016 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Theoretically, yes.
#2017 [20:25] <Clownhead> :)thank you very much it works now
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#2019 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> In practice, it's more of a coin flip whether the drivers for the video card will support it
#2020 [20:26] <tyteen4a03> hmm, it's intel
#2021 [20:26] <Thunderhead38> Beautiful. I now have no video driver installed and this thing is too stubborn to match one to my computer.
#2022 [20:26] <Thunderhead38> Any suggestions?
#2023 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, betting Kendall's problem is the gig of RAM
#2024 [20:27] <Kendall> Everything else seems ok except the RAM????
#2025 [20:27] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: driver from 2005...
#2026 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> Thunderhead38 - Try downloading drivers from here? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#2027 [20:27] <Thunderhead38> All right...
#2028 [20:27] <tyteen4a03> Kendall: Please install this driver: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=2102&DwnldID=16835&ProductFamily=Internet+Devices&ProductLine=Entry+Level+Desktop+PC&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+82945G+Express+Chipset&lang=eng
#2029 [20:28] <Thunderhead38> I don't know what value to select...
#2030 [20:28] <tyteen4a03> Kendall: This will update your display card drivers
#2031 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> tyteen4a03 - You can try updating the drivers for that from intel's site, but gut says gig of RAM and integrated video chipset
#2032 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Thunderhead38 - You said you had a radeon 9600 on your desktop, right?
#2033 [20:28] <Thunderhead38> Yes...
#2034 [20:28] <Thunderhead38> Had.
#2035 [20:28] <KOM> it should still be that
#2036 [20:28] <Thunderhead38> I just ininstalled it, following instructions for an update...
#2037 [20:28] <KOM> you just lack a driver
#2038 [20:28] <Thunderhead38> It didn't work.
#2039 [20:28] <Burning_Blade> GreyVulpine I figured it out-- Just researched a bit on Ubuntu. ^_^" Thank you greatly, both for your help and putting up with my stupidity :) and have yourself a wonderful Christmas :)
#2040 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> Burning_Blade - Glad you got it figured out. Take care.
#2041 [20:29] <Burning_Blade> You too :)
#2042 [20:29] <Thunderhead38> Merry Christmas!
#2043 [20:29] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: yeah, gig of ram... it's really luck
#2044 [20:29] <Thunderhead38> Whoops... too late.
#2045 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> tyteen4a03 - Still think something like this is needed: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#2046 [20:31] <tyteen4a03> -Xmx256M -Xms256M...?
#2047 [20:31] <tyteen4a03> but yeah
#2048 [20:31] * GreyVulpine nods
#2048 [20:31] <tyteen4a03> well, after he installs the driver
#2049 [20:32] <Thunderhead38> Radeon 9600 series... so, what type of system does it want me to select?
#2050 [20:32] <Kendall> Uhg... now I have to restart my computer?!?!?!
#2051 [20:33] <tyteen4a03> Kendall: Yes, please come back after restart and try again
#2052 [20:33] <Thunderhead38> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#2053 [20:33] <Thunderhead38> I'm stuck on this page.
#2054 [20:33] <Thunderhead38> What first value do I select?
#2055 [20:34] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: Notebook graphics
#2056 [20:34] <Thunderhead38> Thank you.
#2057 [20:34] <Thunderhead38> Do I select Radeon HD after that?
#2058 [20:35] <tyteen4a03> yes
#2059 [20:35] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: Wait, what is your display card's name?
#2060 [20:36] <Thunderhead38> It WAS (don't remember the first part) Mobile Radeon 9600 series.
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#2062 [20:38] <Kendall> Should the new drivers have changed the look of my screen? (resolution?)
#2063 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> You can change it back using the display properties
#2064 [20:38] <Thunderhead38> Same happened to me... mainly because I removed mine.
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#2066 [20:39] <Thunderhead38> I don't know what to select for steps 3 and 4...
#2067 [20:39] <Kendall> ok.... so.... is this all I need to do now? Should the game work?
#2068 [20:40] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: hang on
#2069 [20:41] <tyteen4a03> Kendall: you can try launching minecraft now, if it doesn't run come back
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#2071 [20:42] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: Can you give us a dxdiag?
#2072 [20:42] <Thunderhead38> Wait, this is trying to sell me stuff...
#2073 [20:42] <Thunderhead38> Plus I don't know what a dxdiag is.
#2074 [20:42] <Thunderhead38> Diagram?
#2075 [20:42] <tyteen4a03> ??> Thunderhead38 win/dxdiag
#2076 [20:42] <VoxelHead> Thunderhead38: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2077 [20:42] <VoxelHead> Thunderhead38: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2079 [20:43] <Thunderhead38> Would I like to bypass DirectPlay? *saving it*
#2080 [20:44] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: you can skip that
#2081 [20:44] <Thunderhead38> So yes?
#2082 [20:44] <tyteen4a03> yup
#2083 [20:44] <Thunderhead38> All right...
#2084 [20:44] <Thunderhead38> Pastebin is the one I couldn't access, remember?
#2085 [20:45] <Thunderhead38> Paste the link for the other one.
#2086 [20:45] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: try pastie.org
#2087 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> pastie.org
#2088 [20:45] <tyteen4a03> yeah, I am currently using archive.org to access pastebin :P
#2089 [20:45] <Thunderhead38> Stand by...
#2090 [20:46] <Thunderhead38> http://pastie.org/3064982
#2091 [20:46] <tyteen4a03> ah
#2092 [20:46] <Thunderhead38> I feel like my computer's falling apart...
#2093 [20:46] <tyteen4a03> ?? inde
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#2095 [20:46] <tyteen4a03> ?? index
#2096 [20:46] <Kendall> Still get the same message: "Bad video card drivers! Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers."
#2097 [20:46] * mib_yhvp1v [mib_yhvp1v@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2098 [20:46] <Kendall> Now what? :(
#2099 [20:46] <mib_yhvp1v> hi
#2100 [20:46] <mib_yhvp1v> umm
#2101 [20:46] <mib_yhvp1v> ok
#2102 [20:47] <tyteen4a03> Kendall: Your display card is probably too old, or you did not install the driver correctly. Can you give us another dxdiag to check?
#2103 [20:47] <tyteen4a03> ??> Kendall win/dxdiag
#2104 [20:47] <VoxelHead> Kendall: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2105 [20:47] <mib_yhvp1v> it was running today
#2106 [20:47] <VoxelHead> Kendall: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2107 [20:47] <tyteen4a03> ??< pci/database
#2108 [20:47] <mib_yhvp1v> it wont open
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#2111 [20:48] <tyteen4a03> ??> Thunderhead38 win/nodxdiag
#2112 [20:48] <VoxelHead> Thunderhead38: (win/nodxdiag) In rare cases where dxdiag won't work, you can try using msinfo32 instead. Press the Win+R keys, and type "msinfo32.exe" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. Once it has finished loading, click "File -> Export" button, name it to info.txt (or any other file name) and save it to your desktop.
#2113 [20:48] <VoxelHead> Thunderhead38: (win/nodxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2114 [20:48] <tyteen4a03> mib_yhvp1v: what happens when you try?
#2115 [20:48] <mib_yhvp1v> ats the Win and R keys
#2116 [20:48] <tyteen4a03> ??> mib_yhvp1v only/you
#2117 [20:48] <VoxelHead> mib_yhvp1v: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#2118 [20:48] <VoxelHead> mib_yhvp1v: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#2119 [20:49] <mib_yhvp1v> oh
#2120 [20:49] <mib_yhvp1v> ok
#2121 [20:49] <skippydippy> i keep getting the loadign packages and it freezes i bought it yesterday
#2122 [20:49] <Kendall> Here it is again.... http://pastebin.com/F5Ncdi4t
#2123 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Does it freeze on a specific file?
#2124 [20:49] <skippydippy> no
#2125 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - When does it freeze?
#2126 [20:49] <skippydippy> dowloading packages
#2127 [20:50] <tyteen4a03> Kendall: your computer is probably too old for Minecraft
#2128 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Do you get a progress bar at all? Where does it stop exactly?
#2129 [20:50] <skippydippy> its a new computer
#2130 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - tyteen4a03 was talking to Kendall, hence the name prefixed at the start of the line
#2131 [20:50] <The_Chewbakka> ok
#2132 [20:50] <Kendall> Noooo... :( So how can I get my money back (credit card)
#2133 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Do you get a progress bar at all? Where does it stop exactly?
#2134 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> tyteen4a03 - Did you have Kendall try the pastebin instructions?
#2135 [20:51] <skippydippy> at the start about 10% in
#2136 [20:51] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: Oh snap, forgot about that
#2137 [20:51] <Kendall> huh?
#2138 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - What operating system are you on?
#2139 [20:51] <skippydippy> XP
#2140 [20:51] <tyteen4a03> Kendall: Can you try the directions in this link? http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#2141 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Does your Windows username happen to have an exclaimation mark (!) in it?
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#2143 [20:51] <skippydippy> no
#2144 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - You're absolutely sure about that? Go to your start menu, in the Run command, type in: %userprofile% and press enter
#2145 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Look at the folder's name it takes you to
#2146 [20:52] <Thunderhead38> I cannot paste larger than 64 KB. I'll try pastebin again...
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#2148 [20:53] <skippydippy> aplication data
#2149 [20:53] <Thunderhead38> Can't access it to give you the link.
#2150 [20:53] <Kendall> Did that... still get the same BSD DRIVER message
#2151 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - And what's the folder's name before that?
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#2153 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Did you run minecraft using the run.bat file you created, instead of the minecraft.exe?
#2154 [20:54] <Kendall> BAD DRIVER
#2155 [20:54] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: http://liveweb.archive.org/http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#2156 [20:54] <Thunderhead38> Can I give it to you one half at a time?
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#2158 [20:54] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: I only need a section of it, let me find the section
#2159 [20:54] <iREPv4> I bought the game and it hasnet updated yet.
#2160 [20:54] <rumpler> oh thank goodness people are here.
#2161 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> iREPv4 - What version are you on?
#2162 [20:55] <Thunderhead38> Do you need the second half or the first half?
#2163 [20:55] <iREPv4> I am playing Classic
#2164 [20:55] <skippydippy> quinn higgs.owner-3VODAK201
#2165 [20:55] <Kendall> Hold on... give me the instructions again on how to create a run.bat file
#2166 [20:55] <Thunderhead38> Cutting the document in half should fix it...
#2167 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> iREPv4 - Why are you playing classic? It's been out of date for a couple years now
#2168 [20:55] <iREPv4> I didnt have the money.
#2169 [20:56] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: Try to find something called Display Card
#2170 [20:56] <iREPv4> But i bought it and it says to Purchae the game.
#2171 [20:56] <Thunderhead38> ...All right.
#2172 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> iREPv4 - You didn't have the money, but you purchased, what exactly?
#2173 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> iREPv4 - I don't quite follow you
#2174 [20:56] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: wait, save yourself the trouble
#2175 [20:56] <iREPv4> I didnt have the money at first. LOL
#2176 [20:56] <iREPv4> But i got it today and purchased the game
#2177 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> iREPv4 - How long ago exactly
#2178 [20:57] <iREPv4> I think about a little over an hour
#2179 [20:57] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: Go back to msinfo32.exe, Select Components, Display
#2180 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> iREPv4 - It could take several hours for payments to be processed. I'd wait a little longer
#2181 [20:57] <Thunderhead38> Does this work?
#2182 [20:57] <iREPv4> About how long?
#2183 [20:57] <Thunderhead38> http://pastie.org/3065012
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#2185 [20:58] <hatman> hey
#2186 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> iREPv4 - It's not uncommon for some people to wait 4-6 hours. If you did a wire transfer, it could take up to 5 days for payments to clear
#2187 [20:58] <Kendall> How do I create the RUN.BAT file you are talking about?
#2188 [20:58] <iREPv4> I paid with a card.
#2189 [20:58] <hatman> i keep getting this message.
#2190 [20:58] <hatman> how to update a graphics card/video driver
#2191 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Instructions are at: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#2192 [20:58] <zkxs> ??> hatman win/dxdiag
#2193 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Follow them exactly
#2194 [20:58] <VoxelHead> hatman: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2195 [20:58] <hatman> org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel Format not accelerated
#2196 [20:58] <VoxelHead> hatman: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2197 [20:59] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: ok, hang on
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#2199 [20:59] <hatman> org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel Format not accelerated
#2200 [20:59] <iREPv4> GreuVulpine - I used a card.
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#2202 [20:59] <hatman> how do i fix this error message? "org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel Format not accelerated"
#2203 [21:00] <iREPv4> So overnight, it might be updated?
#2204 [21:00] <zkxs> hatman: do what voxelhead told you to do
#2205 [21:00] <tyteen4a03> ??> hatman win/dxdiag
#2206 [21:00] <VoxelHead> hatman: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2207 [21:00] <VoxelHead> hatman: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2208 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> iREPv4 - Perhaps, yes.
#2209 [21:00] <rumpler> i tried buying minecraft and i keep getting the 24 hour wait. is it 'cause i tried with a visa giftcard that doesn't work internationally multiple times [i didn't know when i tried] or 'cause my mastercard wont work?
#2210 [21:00] <iREPv4> Ok, ill try that.
#2211 [21:00] <MrOrange64> I purchased the game for 26.95 this morning, as my payment was being processed the site crashed. so i've been charged but have no premium status, what do?
#2212 [21:00] <skippydippy> still waiting on the message 'updating minecraft downloading packages' - i've not been able to run since purchasing yesterday
#2213 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> rumpler - Gift cards and prepaid cards generally don't work for purchasing minecraft because of their international fraud protection. I'd call the card's customer support number.
#2214 [21:01] <zkxs> MrOrange64: call your card company and see if you can cancel the payment
#2215 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> See if you can get that block lifted, rumpler. Usually you just have to register the card under your name before you can use it internationally.
#2216 [21:01] <The_Chewbakka> can someone help me? my minecraft crashed and it wont open
#2217 [21:01] <hatman> what does win/dxdiag mean? am noob
#2218 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> hatman - Read VoxelHead's instructions
#2219 [21:02] <hatman> i did
#2220 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> It tells you step by step, what you need to do to provide us with a dxdiag
#2221 [21:02] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: Sorry, things are loading very slowly for me today. Hang on...
#2222 [21:02] <Thunderhead38> Don't worry, I'm not going anywhere...
#2223 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> hatman - Is there an instruction you don't understand from VoxelHead?
#2224 [21:02] <hatman> what is dxdiag before i give it to you
#2225 [21:02] <Thunderhead38> Need me to resend the link?
#2226 [21:02] <hatman> win/dxdiag is not understood
#2227 [21:02] <zkxs> Direct X Diagnostic
#2228 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> It gives us more information about your system, including what video card you have on your system hatman.
#2229 [21:02] <iREPv4> But I bought it and it said the card was dined. I hit Back to whatever that was and it said thanks for Purchase.
#2230 [21:03] <hatman> roger. thanks
#2231 [21:03] <rumpler> calready tried having the block lifted. they said no. but then i went to try with mastercard after they said i couldn't use the card for 24hours and it said the same thing though it was my first try with it. since the 24hour thing is over now, will my mastercard work for it?
#2232 [21:03] * mib_wao2ic [mib_wao2ic@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2233 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> It'll provide us with what video card is installed on your machine, hatman, so we can recommend what drivers you need to download and install to fix your problem
#2234 [21:03] <hatman> ok
#2235 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> rumpler - Try paying through paypal.
#2236 [21:03] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: It's ok
#2237 [21:04] <Kendall> OK, I followed the .bat instructions and it opens a DOS window, I click any key to continue and then it disappears. Nothing else happens.
#2238 [21:04] <rumpler> i never thought of using paypal. thank you so much
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#2240 [21:05] <mib_9f4sr5> HOW DO YOU FIX FATAL ERROR 4.
#2241 [21:05] <The_Chewbakka> can someone Help me
#2242 [21:05] <iREPv4> ok thanks for the help Goodbye
#2243 [21:05] <The_Chewbakka> MY MINECRAFT CRASED
#2244 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Cut the caps.
#2245 [21:05] <The_Chewbakka> sorry
#2246 [21:05] <iREPv4> Please.
#2247 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> We can see what you're typing just fine here.
#2248 [21:05] <coolguy> ok
#2249 [21:05] <The_Chewbakka> i know
#2250 [21:05] <The_Chewbakka> caps lock was on
#2251 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> The_Chewbakka - Start from the top, what happens?
#2252 [21:06] <The_Chewbakka> ok, my minecraft crashed
#2253 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Do you get any error reports? Any error logs? Any files named hs_err_pid that generates where the launcher is?
#2254 [21:06] <zkxs> coolguy: can you give me the full error via pastebin?
#2255 [21:06] <The_Chewbakka> pastebin?
#2256 [21:06] <coolguy> yes
#2257 [21:06] <zkxs> ?? pastebin
#2258 [21:06] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2259 [21:06] <The_Chewbakka> ok
#2260 [21:07] <coolguy> the game does not load up
#2261 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Could you copy the contents of the command prompt (right click -> mark -> select and drag -> right click again to copy). Paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL once you submit it
#2262 [21:07] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: I'm close...
#2263 [21:07] <Thunderhead38> You're still there, right, Tyteen?
#2264 [21:07] <Thunderhead38> Ah, good.
#2265 [21:07] <Thunderhead38> ...Close? What are you trying to load?
#2266 [21:07] <coolguy> it says something like: cannot stream lwgi.minecraft.jar.
#2267 [21:07] <The_Chewbakka> ok
#2268 [21:08] <The_Chewbakka> so what now
#2269 [21:08] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=364182&prodNameId=364184&swEnvOID=1098&swLang=8&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=PSG_I22859-107649
#2270 [21:08] <tyteen4a03> That is the driver you need.
#2271 [21:08] <Thunderhead38> !!!
#2272 [21:08] <The_Chewbakka> its in paste bin
#2273 [21:08] <Thunderhead38> Ah. Thanks.
#2274 [21:08] <The_Chewbakka> http://pastebin.com/K8xFnrLN
#2275 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> The_Chewbakka - Give us the http:// URL in your browser's address bar once you submit it
#2276 [21:08] <The_Chewbakka> thats it above
#2277 [21:08] <Thunderhead38> So just download that, restart, and it should fix problems?
#2278 [21:08] <coolguy> HAS SOMEONE been able to answer my question
#2279 [21:08] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: yes
#2280 [21:09] <Thunderhead38> Excellent.
#2281 [21:09] <Kendall> http://pastebin.com/ziPrttzM
#2282 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> The_Chewbakka - update your software from apple's software update
#2283 [21:09] <Thunderhead38> Even if it doesn't, I really appreciate the help so far.
#2284 [21:09] <zkxs> coolguy: what antivirus and firewall do you use?
#2285 [21:09] <Thunderhead38> Thanks for being available.
#2286 [21:09] <coolguy> safeeyes
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#2288 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> The_Chewbakka - Make sure you've updated your graphics/video drivers from apple's software update
#2289 [21:09] <The_Chewbakka> how to do that
#2290 [21:09] <zkxs> coolguy: disable your AV and try againt
#2291 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> The_Chewbakka - Hit the apple icon in the upper left. Look for Apple software update
#2292 [21:10] <zkxs> coolguy: some antivirus blocks lwjgl.jar
#2293 [21:10] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: you're welcome :)
#2294 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Did you download minecraft.jar to the Minecraft folder on your desktop?
#2295 [21:10] <hatman> Hey are you still there?
#2296 [21:10] <hatman> http://pastebin.com/ZrDa3Pz1
#2297 [21:10] <tyteen4a03> hatman: hang on
#2298 [21:10] <coolguy> ok but i have another problem, everything but the minecraft classic page loads up
#2299 [21:10] <hatman> the link you asked for
#2300 [21:10] <coolguy> tthe classic page crashes
#2301 [21:10] <hatman> it expires in ten min
#2302 [21:10] <Kendall> How? I keep getting the BAD DRIVERS message :(
#2303 [21:11] <coolguy> <3
#2304 [21:11] <coolguy> hi
#2305 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - I know you do.
#2306 [21:11] <zkxs> hatman: are you on a netbook?
#2307 [21:11] <The_Chewbakka> ok so its checking for new sofware
#2308 [21:11] <hatman> no
#2309 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Go to http://www.minecraft.net/download -- Press the "Show all platform" link under minecraft.exe
#2310 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - There, you should see a download link for minecraft.jar
#2311 [21:11] <The_Chewbakka> alright
#2312 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Download that to your Minecraft folder on your desktop, then run the Run.bat file again
#2313 [21:11] <The_Chewbakka> it says my software is up to date
#2314 [21:12] <The_Chewbakka> :/
#2315 [21:12] <tyteen4a03> hatman: The dxdiag tells you you do
#2316 [21:12] <hatman> whut?
#2317 [21:12] <Thunderhead38> Hey, Tyteen, should this also fix the periodic exceptions I get every now and then when playing Halo Custom Edition?
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#2319 [21:12] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: I don't know, if it happens only on your computer then maybe
#2320 [21:13] <The_Chewbakka> soo, my apple software is apparently up to date
#2321 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> tyteen4a03 - These should be the drivers for hatman's computer, Intel HD graphics: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-100090-1&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&os=4063&product=5197452&sw_lang=
#2322 [21:13] <tyteen4a03> hatman: You are using HP Pavilion G6 Notebook PC, correct?
#2323 [21:13] <hatman> yes
#2324 [21:13] <hatman> completely stock
#2325 [21:13] <Thunderhead38> Well, I think I've heard other people complain about them... They're rare enough, though, it doesn't matter.
#2326 [21:13] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: ah, I was at the HP page and there was a loong list of Pavillon P6 and I was like o.o
#2327 [21:13] <zkxs> hatman: you could try this driver
#2328 [21:13] <Kendall> once it is downloaded into my firefox download box, I am I supposed to double click it to make it run or open or something?
#2329 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> tyteen4a03 - Pick one at random.. heh.
#2330 [21:14] <tyteen4a03> hatman: Please try this driver: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-100090-1&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&os=4063&product=5197452&sw_lang=
#2331 [21:14] <zkxs> hatman: no guarantees though, it appears you have a rather low-end card
#2332 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - No, move it to your Minecraft folder on your desktop, the same place where you created the Run.bat file
#2333 [21:14] <Thunderhead38> All right, Tyteen, I've downloaded it. So, just run the file, and it should guide me through everything?
#2334 [21:14] <hatman> i allready got the respective driver
#2335 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Then run minecraft with Run.bat
#2336 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> hatman - Did you install it?
#2337 [21:14] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: Yes
#2338 [21:14] <Kendall> Ok, then yes. I have it there
#2339 [21:14] <Thunderhead38> All right.
#2340 [21:14] <The_Chewbakka> the update of my software was already up to date, now what?
#2341 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Then run Run.bat to run minecraft
#2342 [21:14] <hatman> it didnt start
#2343 [21:14] <hatman> even then
#2344 [21:15] <coolguy> NO ONE ANWSERED MY QUESTION
#2345 [21:15] <hatman> what is the next echelon?
#2346 [21:15] <hatman> yes i did.
#2347 [21:15] <tyteen4a03> coolguy: What is your problem?
#2348 [21:15] <zkxs> hatman: your graphics card is too old.
#2349 [21:15] <hatman> grey vulpine
#2350 [21:15] <The_Chewbakka> I have a problem aswell
#2351 [21:15] <hatman> its a brand new comp
#2352 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> The_Chewbakka - Then there's nothing we can do about it here. It's an apple software problem on your end. It apparently does not have the correct video drivers to run minecraft.
#2353 [21:15] <The_Chewbakka> its very annoying
#2354 [21:15] <hatman> :'(
#2355 [21:15] <tyteen4a03> zkxs: No... his computer is quite new
#2356 [21:15] <coolguy> I HAVE FATAL error 4 on minecraft
#2357 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> The_Chewbakka - Unfortunately, the only place to download drivers for you, is from apple's software update
#2358 [21:16] <tyteen4a03> oh right
#2359 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> coolguy - Disable your security software
#2360 [21:16] <tyteen4a03> zkxs: http://pastebin.com/ZrDa3Pz1, I really dunno...
#2361 [21:16] <coolguy> it is callled safeeyes
#2362 [21:16] <The_Chewbakka> it was working fine a while ago
#2363 [21:16] <Kendall> should it be called: Run MS-DOS Batch File ?
#2364 [21:16] <tyteen4a03> coolguy: Is there any other message other than that?
#2365 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Yes
#2366 [21:16] <coolguy> idk
#2367 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Did you download minecraft.jar to the Minecraft folder on your desktop?
#2368 [21:16] <Thunderhead38> All right, it says finished...
#2369 [21:16] <Thunderhead38> I'll try restarting now...
#2370 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> coolguy - Then that may be blocking minecraft from downloading the files it needs
#2371 [21:17] <Thunderhead38> I'll let you know if it works.
#2372 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> coolguy - You'll need to find a way to either set up an exception, or try to disable it entirely.
#2373 [21:17] <coolguy> the minecraft classic page wont open up know
#2374 [21:17] <Kendall> Ok, it just opens a dos box and says "press any key to continue" it disappears, and nothing happens?
#2375 [21:17] <hatman> any thing come to mind, o' wise ones?
#2376 [21:17] <Kendall> I have folder called
#2377 [21:17] <coolguy> i am going to get minecraft soon,
#2378 [21:18] <The_Chewbakka> I have had minecraft for a while now
#2379 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Does it say anything else?
#2380 [21:18] <coolguy> will that same error effect the full version
#2381 [21:18] <The_Chewbakka> this is the first time
#2382 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> The_Chewbakka - Try a reboot?
#2383 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> coolguy - We can't say for sure.
#2384 [21:18] <Kendall> Minecraft. It has minecraft(jar) in it, new text doc, and Run ms-dos. Those 3 things
#2385 [21:18] <The_Chewbakka> of minecraft, or the computer?
#2386 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> The_Chewbakka - The comptuer
#2387 [21:18] <The_Chewbakka> ok
#2388 [21:18] <The_Chewbakka> ill see what happens
#2389 [21:18] <The_Chewbakka> :/
#2390 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - is the file you got from minecraft.net/download named exactly minecraft.jar
#2391 [21:19] <coolguy> ok, i think the error is fixed but i cant check cuz classic is not opening up
#2392 [21:19] <hatman> i REALLY WANT TO PLAY THIS GAME
#2393 [21:19] <coolguy> ok
#2394 [21:20] <tyteen4a03> hatman: Did you try the driver we gave you?
#2395 [21:20] <hatman> yes
#2396 [21:20] <tyteen4a03> Did you install it?
#2397 [21:20] <hatman> i got it before i came here
#2398 [21:20] <hatman> yes
#2399 [21:20] <hatman> no luck
#2400 [21:20] <coolguy> :( minecraft sucks cuz it runs on java
#2401 [21:21] <tyteen4a03> hatman: Still Pixel Format Not Acclerated?
#2402 [21:21] <hatman> ive never even played the dang game
#2403 [21:21] <coolguy> why cant it tun on flash
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#2405 [21:21] <hatman> yes
#2406 [21:21] <tyteen4a03> coolguy: it would suck even harder.
#2407 [21:21] <Kendall> That was it. (had a (1) in it) It works!!! GreyVulpine, Tyteen4a03. THANKYOU! You rock!
#2408 [21:21] <tyteen4a03> hatman: Yeah, your display card's probably too old then
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#2410 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> Kendall - Glad we could help
#2411 [21:21] <coolguy> no, flash never srews up
#2412 [21:21] <The_Chewbakka> YAY
#2413 [21:22] <The_Chewbakka> Thank you
#2414 [21:22] <The_Chewbakka> ^-^
#2415 [21:22] <coolguy> kendall, wat was ur problem
#2416 [21:22] <tyteen4a03> coolguy: Did you hear that Adobe is giving up Flash in favour of HTML5?
#2417 [21:22] <hatman> but the comp is new
#2418 [21:22] <coolguy> no i didnt
#2419 [21:22] <hatman> i got it a month ago
#2420 [21:22] <skippydippy> advice on what to do if minecraft freezes on downloading packages or done loading page
#2421 [21:22] <Kendall> I had downloaded the jar file twice and had actually used the one that said "minecraft(1).jar" instead of just the "minecraft.jar" file
#2422 [21:22] <tyteen4a03> coolguy: So here's the news: Adobe is giving up Flash in favour of HTML5. Flash is not the solution to everything.
#2423 [21:23] <zkxs> hatman: you could try this driver: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20674/a08/Win7Vista_152252.exe
#2424 [21:23] <Thunderhead38> Bad news...
#2425 [21:23] <Thunderhead38> Game crash remains.
#2426 [21:23] <hatman> what will that do?
#2427 [21:23] <coolguy> not 2 everything, just minecracft
#2428 [21:23] <tyteen4a03> coolguy: Do notice that Mojang is a small indie company. It's not like they have a big team for everything, including porting 3 year's hard work to anything else
#2429 [21:24] <zkxs> hatman: hopefully, make minecraft work but updating your video card drivers. If this doesn't work, you card is probably too low-end. :/
#2430 [21:24] <coolguy> i understand
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#2432 [21:24] <hatman> ok
#2433 [21:24] <tyteen4a03> coolguy: Nor will Flash bring any performance boosts.
#2434 [21:24] <hatman> how much is a decent drive/what would
#2435 [21:25] <hatman> you recomend?
#2436 [21:25] <coolguy> lesserrors
#2437 [21:25] <tyteen4a03> coolguy: False
#2438 [21:25] <coolguy> watever
#2439 [21:25] <tyteen4a03> hatman: A driver is a software that helps Windows use it, it is not a hardware you can buy
#2440 [21:26] <zkxs> you mean you can't download more ram!? D:
#2441 [21:26] <hatman> how much is a decent card/what do you roccomend
#2442 [21:26] <coolguy> classic singplayer works, but multiplayer doesnt load up. will the full version of minecraft work then????
#2443 [21:26] <tyteen4a03> ??> coolguy demo
#2444 [21:26] <VoxelHead> coolguy: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#2445 [21:27] <VoxelHead> coolguy: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#2446 [21:27] <tyteen4a03> hatman: Since you are on a notebook, it's hard to switch display cards. I recommend you to get a new laptop that is designed for gaming, or just get a desktop PC
#2447 [21:27] <coolguy> thanks Voxel,
#2448 [21:28] <hatman> you are joking
#2449 [21:28] <hatman> right?
#2450 [21:28] <coolguy> about the demo, no its real.
#2451 [21:28] <hatman> this is a brand fucking new comp
#2452 [21:28] * AuBot kicked hatman from #minecrafthelp (Reason: atman :Please keep it civil.)
#2453 [21:28] <wannabemac> Wow, I just remembered I was still on.
#2454 [21:28] <Thunderhead38> Tyteen, it improved my screen image...
#2455 [21:28] <Thunderhead38> But the game still crashes.
#2456 [21:28] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: Bad video card driver still?
#2457 [21:28] <tyteen4a03> s/driver//
#2458 [21:28] <Thunderhead38> I don't know...
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#2460 [21:29] <Thunderhead38> I thought you sent me a good one.
#2461 [21:29] <Thunderhead38> I just checked on my computer properties thing...
#2462 [21:29] <mib_52845y> hatman here
#2463 [21:29] <mib_52845y> just got booted
#2464 [21:29] <Thunderhead38> It says Radeon 9600 again.
#2465 [21:29] <coolguy> IM OUT
#2466 [21:29] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: It should say Radeon 9600, yes
#2467 [21:29] <tyteen4a03> ^ragequit
#2468 [21:29] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: But what is the date of the driver now?
#2469 [21:29] <mib_52845y> this is a laptop. how do i get a new grafx card
#2470 [21:30] <mib_52845y> for it?
#2471 [21:30] <tyteen4a03> mib_52845y: It's hard
#2472 [21:31] <mib_52845y> i worked at best buy, i know the people to do it. how do i do ti?
#2473 [21:31] <zkxs> mib_52845y: ask the people to do it ;)
#2474 [21:31] <mib_52845y> thank you genius
#2475 [21:31] <Thunderhead38> 12/2/2003
#2476 [21:31] <mib_52845y> any advice?
#2477 [21:32] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: hang on
#2478 [21:32] <mib_52845y> zkxs
#2479 [21:32] <mib_52845y> can you help me?
#2480 [21:33] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: hmm...
#2481 [21:33] <zkxs> mib_52845y: Are you absolutely sure you installed the correct driver?
#2482 [21:33] <mib_52845y> yes
#2483 [21:33] <Thunderhead38> http://pastie.org/3065085
#2484 [21:33] <zkxs> mib_52845y: Then no.
#2485 [21:33] <Thunderhead38> Here's the exception this time.
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#2487 [21:33] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: Can you give me the link I gave you?
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#2489 [21:34] <Thunderhead38> Sure. Give me a moment to find it in history.
#2490 [21:34] <mib_52845y> rage quit emminate
#2491 [21:34] <Thunderhead38> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=364182&prodNameId=364184&swEnvOID=1098&swLang=8&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=PSG_I22859-107649
#2492 [21:35] <mib_52845y> any aid at all?
#2493 [21:35] <mib_52845y> anybody?
#2494 [21:35] <mib_52845y> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
#2495 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> !k mib_52845y
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#2498 [21:36] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: Oh meh, I should have told you earlier...
#2499 [21:36] <Thunderhead38> ...
#2500 [21:36] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: Your computer's too old for Minecraft
#2501 [21:36] <Thunderhead38> DERP.
#2502 [21:36] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: Memory: 512MB RAM
#2503 [21:37] <Thunderhead38> So...
#2504 [21:37] <Thunderhead38> It's just the RAM?
#2505 [21:37] <obi_wan> !ktyteen4a03
#2506 [21:37] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: No, it's the whole computer, really
#2507 [21:37] <tyteen4a03> obi_wan: nope
#2508 [21:37] <obi_wan> hahaha
#2509 [21:37] <obi_wan> fuck
#2510 [21:37] * AuBot kicked obi_wan from #minecrafthelp (Reason: bi_wan :Please keep it civil.)
#2511 [21:37] * tyteen4a03 shrugs
#2511 [21:37] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2511 [21:37] <tyteen4a03> noobs
#2512 [21:38] <Thunderhead38> *insert angry, frustrated, irritated growling and grumbling noises here*
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#2515 [21:39] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: Well, your computer's 8 years old since release...
#2516 [21:39] <tyteen4a03> Released on: 11/01/2003
#2517 [21:39] <tyteen4a03> that's your computer
#2518 [21:39] <Thunderhead38> Well, it might take a long time to raise the money for this, but... Could you give me a link to a computer you'd recommend?
#2519 [21:40] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: Anything decent should be fine, but if you have specific budgets or requirements, ask GreyVulpine, I really suck at hardware ;)
#2520 [21:40] <Thunderhead38> If there was a facepalm emote, that's what I would have put there...
#2521 [21:40] <tyteen4a03> also, keeping that computer and selling it to some computer history museum, and maybe you can get some money from it
#2522 [21:41] <Thunderhead38> *angry face*
#2523 [21:41] <Thunderhead38> It's not that old!!!
#2524 [21:41] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: It was released in 2003, and you know how quick computer changes
#2525 [21:41] <Thunderhead38> Plus its display is broken... I've got it hooked up to a Proview monitor.
#2526 [21:42] <Thunderhead38> That looks older than it does.
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#2528 [21:42] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/hp-compaq-nc8000-series/4505-3121_7-30583495.html
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#2530 [21:42] <tyteen4a03> This is CNET's review, I trust CNET :P
#2531 [21:42] <bluekeegan1> hello?
#2532 [21:42] <tyteen4a03> hi
#2533 [21:42] <bluekeegan1> me having trouble
#2534 [21:42] <Thunderhead38> Hey, that's my computer...
#2535 [21:43] <Thunderhead38> lolz
#2536 [21:43] <bluekeegan1> :(
#2537 [21:43] <bluekeegan1> Can you helpz me
#2538 [21:43] <tyteen4a03> bluekeegan1: Yes?
#2539 [21:43] <flash1133> hi
#2540 [21:43] <bluekeegan1> hi flash!
#2541 [21:43] <tyteen4a03> hi
#2542 [21:44] <Thunderhead38> Heh... Renowned for its speed? I wouldn't say that...
#2543 [21:44] <tyteen4a03> Thuderhead38: At 2003, that's very fast
#2544 [21:44] <Thunderhead38> Then again, it's been through a lot.
#2545 [21:44] <Thunderhead38> Well, I guess so...
#2546 [21:44] <tyteen4a03> :P
#2547 [21:44] <Thunderhead38> Okay... But you still haven't shown me a direct suggestion...
#2548 [21:44] <Thunderhead38> Just a vague view of what I'm looking for.
#2549 [21:45] <Thunderhead38> Oh yeah, you wnated me to ask Vulpine...
#2550 [21:45] <tyteen4a03> anything decent should do
#2551 [21:45] <bluekeegan1> nd says end of stream
#2552 [21:45] <skippydippy> suggestions on what to do if minecraft won't download - i purchased yesterday ? :(
#2553 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> You wanted a suggestion on a new computer that can handle minecraft?
#2554 [21:45] <Thunderhead38> Yeah?
#2555 [21:45] <tyteen4a03> bluekeegan1: Are you trying to connect to a multiplayer server?
#2556 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> any new computer within the new couple years should be able to run minecraft fine
#2557 [21:46] <flash1133> yes he is
#2558 [21:46] <bluekeegan1> yeah
#2559 [21:46] <Thunderhead38> I can't make decisions for myself!!! Somebody show me a link to a decently modern computer!!!
#2560 [21:46] <tyteen4a03> bluekeegan1: Can other players connect to that server?
#2561 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Thunderhead38 - Desktop or laptop? Budget?
#2562 [21:46] <bluekeegan1> yes
#2563 [21:46] <tyteen4a03> bluekeegan1: Try turning off any antiviruses/firewalls
#2564 [21:46] <Thunderhead38> Laptop I don't have use for. No point; it's sitting in the corner all the time.
#2565 [21:46] <bluekeegan1> it is portforwarded
#2566 [21:47] <Thunderhead38> Budget?
#2567 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> How much money do you want to spend?
#2568 [21:47] <Thunderhead38> I currently don't have enough cash for any computer. I'm trying to figure out how long it'd take to get it.
#2569 [21:47] <tyteen4a03> bluekeegan1: You don't need to portforward unless you are hosting it
#2570 [21:47] <bluekeegan1> how do i turn my ant virus
#2571 [21:47] <bluekeegan1> off
#2572 [21:47] <tyteen4a03> bluekeegan1: What anti-virus software do you have?
#2573 [21:47] <Thunderhead38> I'd hope not to spend more than $200... But I have a feeling that's not an option.
#2574 [21:47] <bluekeegan1> let me see if i can check
#2575 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> That.. will not be an option
#2576 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> Thunderhead38 - Any of these computers would be sufficient for minecraft:
#2577 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=10&Description=&Type=&N=100006736&IsNodeId=1&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&PropertyCodeValue=1413%3A49632&PropertyCodeValue=1413%3A49790&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A100385&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A148315&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A156113&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A219753&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A100344&PropertyCodeVa
#2578 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> lue=1436%3A219754&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A46291&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A79469&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A148314&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A79468&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A197544&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A38028&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A94325&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A193076&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A49985&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A100185&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A154829&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3
#2579 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> A58164&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A156310&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A58221&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A123923&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A49887&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A155104&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A55287&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A100502&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A57292&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A94354&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A55410&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A104118&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A197543&Pro
#2580 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> pertyCodeValue=1436%3A197078&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A100382&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A132962&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A165557&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A165558&PropertyCodeValue=1436%3A260588
#2581 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> oh dear
#2582 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> ignore that.
#2583 [21:49] * oldtopman hands GreyVulpine a bit.ly
#2583 [21:49] <bluekeegan1> umm i have mcAfee and norton
#2584 [21:50] <Thunderhead38> ?
#2585 [21:50] <tyteen4a03> bluekeegan1: Uninstall either McAfee or Norton
#2586 [21:50] <bluekeegan1> ok
#2587 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Thunderhead38 - Any of these computers would be able to handle minecraft fine: http://bit.ly/rKunVG
#2588 [21:50] <tyteen4a03> bluekeegan1: If both of them are free ones, I'd suggest that you uninstall both of them and get another
#2589 [21:53] <Thunderhead38> All right...
#2590 [21:53] <Thunderhead38> How could I sell my laptop though?
#2591 [21:53] <Thunderhead38> Wait, no... don't answer that.
#2592 [21:53] <Thunderhead38> Nobody will buy a laptop with a broken display...
#2593 [21:54] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: computer history museum or collection fans
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#2595 [21:55] <Thunderhead38> tyteen, I'm not even sure if you're just mocking my laptop's age or if computers really age in value that quickly...
#2596 [21:55] <tyteen4a03> Thunderhead38: No, I am not mocking, I'm serious
#2597 [21:55] <mib_uj1hot> Can't register at Minecraft.net
#2598 [21:56] <Thunderhead38> Where in the world do I find a computer history museum that won't already have a far better version of this computer?
#2599 [21:56] <tyteen4a03> mib_uj1hot: What happens when you try?
#2600 [21:56] * tyteen4a03 shrugs
#2600 [21:56] <tyteen4a03> I don't know, really xD
#2601 [21:56] <mib_uj1hot> It just says the username is already in use.
#2602 [21:57] <tyteen4a03> mib_uj1hot: Then you need to pick another name
#2603 [21:57] <Thunderhead38> Well, thanks everybody for your help.
#2604 [21:57] <tyteen4a03> no problem :)
#2605 [21:57] <Thunderhead38> Good luck in your future endeavors.
#2606 [21:57] <Thunderhead38> Thunderhead38 out.
#2607 [21:57] <mib_uj1hot> No matter what name I choose it says the same thing. And there's also no captcha
#2608 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_uj1hot - Try a different browser?
#2609 [21:58] <mib_uj1hot> Tried Firefox, Chrome, and IE same thing on all
#2610 [21:58] <tyteen4a03> no captcha on all?
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#2612 [21:59] <mib_uj1hot> Yeah no captcha on all
#2613 [21:59] <tyteen4a03> mib_uj1hot: You don't need to enter a CAPTCHA when registering
#2614 [21:59] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine
#2615 [22:00] <TheNytangel> Naughty
#2616 [22:00] <mib_uj1hot> Oh okay I'll try a few more usernames and see if it's just what I'm picking is taken
#2617 [22:00] <tyteen4a03> it's probably that
#2618 [22:01] <mib_uj1hot> lol it worked. Didn't think anyone would use that name...thanks for your help
#2619 [22:01] <tyteen4a03> np
#2620 [22:01] <wannabemac> GreyVulpine is on santa's naughty list.
#2621 [22:01] <tyteen4a03> good
#2622 [22:02] <TheNytangel> We gotta get GreyVulpine minecraft coal for Christmas
#2623 [22:02] <TheNytangel> And not the cheap charcoal, we need real coal
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#2625 [22:09] <wannabemac> lol
#2626 [22:10] <wannabemac> I was gonna cheap out and get charcoal.
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#2628 [22:12] <wannabemac> God damn it McAfee keeps telling me to restart.
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#2630 [22:18] <wannabemac> We should send him a mpa.
#2631 [22:18] <wannabemac> With a inventory full of coal.
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#2633 [22:22] <wannabemac> By who ivebeenscrewed?
#2634 [22:23] <TheNoodle> I'm guessing paypal.
#2635 [22:23] <wannabemac> LOL
#2636 [22:23] <TheNoodle> Derp, ebay. I need to sleep more -_-
#2637 [22:23] <ivebeenscrewed> i received an email that said thank you for your purchase but I DID NOT MAKE A PURCHASE!!!!
#2638 [22:24] <wannabemac> So who is going to get GreyVulpine the christmas present I mentioned.
#2639 [22:24] <TheNoodle> lol
#2640 [22:24] <wannabemac> lol
#2641 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#2642 [22:24] <wannabemac> xD
#2643 [22:24] <TheNoodle> ivebeenscrewed, if you didn't buy anything, ignore the email.
#2644 [22:24] <wannabemac> Ill do it myself now.
#2645 [22:24] <ivebeenscrewed> who do i contact - this stupid minecraft page has no contact number
#2646 [22:24] <ivebeenscrewed> the charge had to come from somewhere
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#2648 [22:25] <wannabemac> If you are here to rage, then leave, we don't want to listen to it.
#2649 [22:25] <TheNoodle> Can you provide profe that you got charged?
#2650 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Contact your banking institution.
#2651 [22:25] <TheNoodle> Proof even.
#2652 [22:25] <crafter> hi is this where i go to fix my minecraft?
#2653 [22:25] <ivebeenscrewed> this is the 2nd time this month the first time it came out of my paypal - not this time this time i dont know where the charge came from
#2654 [22:25] <wannabemac> Maybe you were hacked
#2655 [22:25] <TheNoodle> Sounds like someone knows your password, dispute the first transaction with paypal and start looking for the source of the second.
#2656 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Obviously somebody with your payment information wants minecraft badly..
#2657 [22:26] <ivebeenscrewed> did the dispute and it was returned
#2658 [22:26] <TheNoodle> It's not mojangs fault you can't keep your accounts secure.
#2659 [22:26] <wannabemac> lol
#2660 [22:26] <crafter> can someone help me fix my minecraft it keeps randomly crashing and a am starting to get mad
#2661 [22:26] <ivebeenscrewed> i have a purchase id but nowhere to search that id to see how it was paid for
#2662 [22:27] <ivebeenscrewed> how can i search the purchase id
#2663 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> ivebeenscrewed - I'd start by calling your banks and credit cards, see if there's a transaction record for MojangAB
#2664 [22:27] <TheNoodle> inb4 someone has bought it as a christmas present
#2665 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> We're not Mojang, we don't have access to account information here.
#2666 [22:28] <ivebeenscrewed> this is the only link i could find on their stupid page for support - rediculous!!!
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#2668 [22:28] <wannabemac> You sound like the guy who made the alchemy mod when he sent a email to Notch...
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#2670 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Your best bet is to call your bank to file another dispute.
#2671 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Your account information may also have been compromised if this has been done in the past.
#2672 [22:30] <ivebeenscrewed> GreyVulpine I appreciate your consideration - the rest of you are complete a**es
#2673 [22:30] * wannabemac chuckles
#2673 [22:30] <TheNoodle> !kick ivebeenscrewed <3
#2674 [22:30] * AuBot kicked ivebeenscrewed from #minecrafthelp (Reason: vebeenscrewed :Don't let the door hit ya where the dogs should have bit ya! (Issued by TheNoodle with reason: <3))
#2675 [22:30] <wannabemac> Here is the map I promised GreyVulpine: http://www.mediafire.com/?8f2r88l6tp9hpve
#2676 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> That kick really wasn't needed..
#2677 [22:31] <wannabemac> Still.
#2678 [22:31] <TheNoodle> Probably not.
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#2680 [22:31] <wannabemac> Enjoy your present Grey.
#2681 [22:31] <wannabemac> It took me all of 30 seconds to make.
#2682 [22:31] * TheNoodle throws up
#2682 [22:32] * TheNoodle goes back to bed
#2682 [22:32] <wannabemac> lol
#2683 [22:33] <wannabemac> Well that guy was just charming.
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#2685 [22:34] <wilma> Hi - we can't access our account and no longer have access to the email on file. how can we get access?
#2686 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Send an email to help@mojang.com
#2687 [22:35] <wilma> I did but no one responded.
#2688 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> We are not Mojang, and thus, cannot do anything about account issues here.
#2689 [22:35] <wilma> Ah - okay. thanks
#2690 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> You may need to wait until after the holidays, they're on vacation.
#2691 [22:35] <wilma> okay - much appreciated.
#2692 [22:35] <wilma> okay - much appreciated.
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#2697 [22:52] <wannabemac> GreyVulpine, what does it mean if someone has voice?
#2698 [22:52] <TheNoodle> They're either helpful and slightly trusted.
#2699 [22:52] <TheNoodle> Or they're bitter grumpy people, like me :3
#2700 [22:53] <wannabemac> They're either helpful and slightly trusted. Nice Grammar. xD I belive you ment or.
#2701 [22:53] <wannabemac> Wow, having a typo ruined that.
#2702 [22:53] <TheNoodle> No, they need to be both... :p
#2703 [22:53] <wannabemac> You said either...
#2704 [22:53] <TheNoodle> shuddup
#2705 [22:53] <TheNoodle> :D
#2706 [22:54] <TheNoodle> Hang on no
#2707 [22:54] <TheNoodle> I was right
#2708 [22:54] <wannabemac> No.
#2709 [22:54] <TheNoodle> They're either helpful and slightly trusted OR they're bitter grumpy people, like me.
#2710 [22:55] <wannabemac> I didn't interpert it that way.
#2711 [22:55] <wannabemac> I probably spelled that wrong xD.
#2712 [22:55] <tyteen4a03> TheNoodle: I am not helpful nor bitter grumpy
#2713 [22:55] <wannabemac> LOL
#2714 [22:55] * tyteen4a03 learns to be mean
#2714 [22:55] <TheNoodle> :P
#2715 [22:55] <tyteen4a03> TheNoodle y u soggy
#2716 [22:55] * wannabemac Trololololol
#2716 [22:56] <TheNoodle> Cos I'm sick, and people are coming round for christmas :p
#2717 [22:56] <tyteen4a03> TheNoodle: good
#2718 [22:56] <wannabemac> being sick is good.
#2719 [22:56] <wannabemac> Not.
#2720 [22:57] <TheNoodle> It's not good, because I'm still expected to do things.
#2721 [22:57] <wannabemac> That sucks.
#2722 [22:57] <tyteen4a03> well i am mean
#2723 [22:58] <tyteen4a03> TheNoodle: suck water up your a--
#2724 [22:58] <wannabemac> Thats not mean, thats being a douche.
#2725 [22:58] <tyteen4a03> wannabemac: I suck at being mean then :<
#2726 [22:58] <wannabemac> xD
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#2729 [22:59] <clone_of_tyteen4a03> TheNoodle SUCK WATER UP YOUR A--
#2730 [22:59] <tyteen4a03> i suck
#2731 [22:59] <wannabemac> lol
#2732 [22:59] <TheNoodle> But but but
#2733 [23:00] <TheNoodle> I don't know what a A-- is!
#2734 [23:00] <TheNoodle> looks sorta like an axe.
#2735 [23:00] <tyteen4a03> :o
#2736 [23:00] <tyteen4a03> well, suck a lot of water in your mouth then
#2737 [23:00] <tyteen4a03> let it kill you
#2738 [23:00] <wannabemac> it is a axe.
#2739 [23:00] <wannabemac> You are such a great person.
#2740 [23:00] <tyteen4a03> dihydrogenoxide!
#2741 [23:00] <wannabemac> Have some ice cream.
#2742 [23:00] <tyteen4a03> :D
#2743 [23:01] <wannabemac> But aVo deserves more. xD Trololol.
#2744 [23:01] <tyteen4a03> s/dihydrogenoxide/dihydrogenmonoxide
#2745 [23:01] <wannabemac> Just go with a cyanide capsule.
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#2747 [23:10] <Slapnutts> how can i get rid of the server key issue
#2748 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Update to 1.0.1 in your server
#2749 [23:13] <|Kiikun|> use the jar, not the exe.
#2750 [23:14] <|Kiikun|> i dont think they updated the exe :/
#2751 [23:14] <Slapnutts> i know how to update the exe, never updated jar
#2752 [23:15] <Slapnutts> dont know how
#2753 [23:15] <|Kiikun|> i mean the server. the 3exe and jar shopudl be the same thing but i think they didnt update the exe.
#2754 [23:16] <wannabemac> I have to go.
#2755 [23:16] <|Kiikun|> just get the minecraft_server.jar and use it liek youve been using the exe :P
#2756 [23:16] <Slapnutts> can i use the same server just change the jar?
#2757 [23:16] <|Kiikun|> yup.
#2758 [23:17] <wannabemac> Bye.
#2759 [23:20] <Slapnutts> well i have no idea what he was talking about
#2760 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Download minecraft_server.jar from minecraft.net/download into the folder where you previously have the server software
#2761 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Tell me when you've done this
#2762 [23:22] <Slapnutts> done
#2763 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> Next, right click inside the folder, choose New -> new text document.
#2764 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't matter what you name it right now. Open it up.
#2765 [23:23] <Slapnutts> inside the folder where the server.exe is located
#2766 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> And the server.jar, yes.
#2767 [23:25] <Slapnutts> ok minecraft.jar is in the minecraft server folder with the server exe
#2768 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> Do you have the new text document open as well?
#2769 [23:25] <Slapnutts> yes
#2770 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> Inside, put in: java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
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#2772 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> Go up to file -> save as -> name it "Launch.bat" with the quotes included
#2773 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> Make sure it's also saving it in the same folder.
#2774 [23:27] <yoshi> my pixel format is not accelerated
#2775 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> yoshi - What operating system are you on?
#2776 [23:27] <Slapnutts> done. and that was -jar minecraft with a space in between the two words, right?
#2777 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Yes Slapnutts.
#2778 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Now, instead of running the server with the .exe, you'll use the .bat file to launch it from now on.
#2779 [23:28] <yoshi> windows 7 administator
#2780 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Slapnutts - Try it, it should launch with 1.0.1 now as the first line.
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#2782 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> yoshi - Could you give us a dxdiag? It'll show us what video card you have, and thus, how to fix your problem.
#2783 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> ??> yoshi win/dxdiag
#2784 [23:29] <VoxelHead> yoshi: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2785 [23:29] <VoxelHead> yoshi: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2786 [23:29] <Slapnutts> black box opens then closes fast
#2787 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Slapnutts - Hmm, alright. Could you right click on Launch.bat, choose Edit.
#2788 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Press enter after the first line, put in pause on the second line. Save it, then try running it again
#2789 [23:30] <xorcon> I can no longer break blocks
#2790 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> This time, it should stop with the command prompt window open, showing you the error
#2791 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> xorcon - In multiplayer? single player?
#2792 [23:31] <Slapnutts> how do you insert a pause
#2793 [23:31] <zkxs> type 'pause' on the second line
#2794 [23:31] <zkxs> no quotes
#2795 [23:32] <Slapnutts> says everything i typed in then says press any key to continue
#2796 [23:32] <Slapnutts> then the box closes
#2797 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> Does it say anything above "Press any key to continue"?
#2798 [23:34] <Slapnutts> yes, c:\Users\Gary\Documents\Minecraft Server>pause -Xmx1024m -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
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#2800 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Erm, no.
#2801 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Go back to your Launch.bat file. The first line should be: java -Xmx1024m -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#2802 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> The second line should be: pause
#2803 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Save it, run it again.
#2804 [23:38] <Slapnutts> ok i didnt put in java its working now, thanks
#2805 [23:40] <zkxs> why not use @java?
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#2808 [23:43] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2808 [23:43] <yoshi> grey vulpine how do i send a paste
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#2810 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Copy text you want to share to others, paste it at www.pastebin.com , submit it, then give people the http:// address found in your browser's address bar
#2811 [23:43] <|Kiikun|> :pastebin
#2812 [23:43] <WugBot> pastebin: Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#2813 [23:43] * |Kiikun| was still ninjad!
#2813 [23:44] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#2813 [23:44] * |Kiikun| isnt paying attention anyway <.<
#2813 [23:45] <yoshi> isthat all i do
#2814 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#2815 [23:46] <yoshi> positive this will help me with my pixel not accelerated
#2816 [23:46] <tyteen4a03> yoshi: Yes
#2817 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> It's a first step where you share us information about your system, so that we may read it and suggest a fix
#2818 [23:47] <yoshi> how long will it take
#2819 [23:47] <tyteen4a03> yoshi: what are you referring to?
#2820 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> yoshi's got a pixel format not accelerated issue. I sent him dxdiag instructions
#2821 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Still waiting on the dxdiag results so I can actually get started.
#2822 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> yoshi - Did you paste the contents of the dxdiag file to pastebin.com?
#2823 [23:49] <yoshi> thx grey vulpine yes
#2824 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> And did you press the submit button?
#2825 [23:49] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: I mean the "how long will it take" thing
#2826 [23:49] <yoshi> yes
#2827 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> What is the address at the top of your browser after you pressed submit?
#2828 [23:50] <yoshi> where d i find that
#2829 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> How did you get to http://www.pastebin.com ?
#2830 [23:51] <yoshi> threw a link
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#2832 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> And that put it in the browser, yes? At the top, in your browser's address bar?
#2833 [23:51] <yoshi> yes
#2834 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> When you pressed submit, what is the new address in your browser's address bar?
#2835 [23:52] <yoshi> dxdiag
#2836 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> It starts with http://
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#2838 [23:53] <|Kiikun|> its http://www.pastebin.com/SOMERANDOMJUNKHERETHATISFAIRLYIMPORTANT
#2839 [23:53] <yoshi> paste bin .com/cgqvsljz
#2840 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Could you copy it exactly, and paste it here?
#2841 [23:55] <|Kiikun|> i do not believe the is any data in that paste... its just titled dxdiag
#2842 [23:55] <yoshi> pastebin | #1 paste tool since 2002
#2843 [23:56] <yoshi> hoo will help me now
#2844 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> Yoshi. See, when we tell somebody to give us a dxdiag, they'll go to their start menu, in the search bar or Run command, They'll type in: dxdiag. When they have the dxdiag window open, they press the "Save all information" button and save the document to their desktop. They'll then copy everything inside that document to pastebin.
#2845 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> They'll submit it, and give us a URL like this: http://pastebin.com/3tVBbh1e
#2846 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> As you can see, that is a dxdiag that somebody else has given us.
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#2848 [23:59] <yoshi> oh thx
#2849 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> Now, can you give us a dxdiag yoshi?
#2850 [23:59] <yoshi> how