#1 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> I just told you how.
#2 [00:00] <Romero> uhm. I have a quick question. And I am also not familiar with irc.esper.net 's interface at all
#3 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> Romero - Ask away
#4 [00:00] <yoshi> i dont have a hit yet
#5 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> yoshi - That's because you haven't given us a correct link yet
#6 [00:02] <Romero> I was wanting to buy minecraft for my girlfriend and I so I created a new account. But I'm waiting on my verification email for the basic registration. I would really LOVE to shell out the money for MC but, as it seems, I just can't. I did take the time to rummage through some help forums and such but most of it was when they bought it they had email verification problems.
#7 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> Mojang's still having some email problems that their provider is sorting through.
#8 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> There's nothing you can do about it but wait.
#9 [00:03] <yoshi> http://pastebin.com/cgQvSLJZ
#10 [00:04] <Romero> okay. thank you, one last question just for practicality; is the a scheduled downtime?
#11 [00:04] <Romero> there*
#12 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> Romero - No, there isn't.
#13 [00:04] <Romero> Thank you for your time. It really helped. :)
#14 [00:04] <Romero> Thank you for your time. It really helped. :)
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#16 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> yoshi - You're running a ATI RADEON X300/X550/X1050 Series video card on Windows XP Professional. The updated video drivers you want to download and install are at: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
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#18 [00:06] <yoshi> WHAT DO I DOWN LOAD
#19 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#20 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> "Catalyst Software Suite"
#21 [00:06] <yoshi> all of them
#22 [00:07] <yoshi> oh thx u where very help ful
#23 [00:08] <yoshi> can i exit the paste bin page now
#24 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#25 [00:12] <yoshi> thenwat
#26 [00:14] <yoshi> will i be able to play
#27 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#28 [00:14] <yoshi> thx ;)
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#32 [00:21] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: rofl. just got the xmas gifts from my sister. 2 shirts. "It must be user error." and "Will Work For Bandwith" XD
#33 [00:21] * |Kiikun| thinks we all need the first one
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#34 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#35 [00:24] <dylanbarberdude> Mine Little Pony - Sunshine of Israpony
#36 [00:25] <|Kiikun|> . . .
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#38 [00:25] <dylanbarberdude> :D
#39 [00:25] * |Kiikun| chases dylanbarberdude away with a chainsaw
#39 [00:26] * dylanbarberdude is a pegasus Mine Little Pony so just hovers above
#39 [00:26] * |Kiikun| uses rocket-propelled chainsaws.
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#40 [00:27] * dylanbarberdude grows huge teeth and eats the chainsaw
#40 [00:28] <mr_sticky> hello everyone ive bought minecraft and i have downloaded minecraft.exe
#41 [00:28] <mr_sticky> and now there is a issue
#42 [00:28] <mr_sticky> when i log in and try to update, it gets stuck at 5%
#43 [00:29] <mr_sticky> and if i press"not now" (update later) it gets stuch at 95%
#44 [00:29] <dylanbarberdude> run as admin
#45 [00:29] <mr_sticky> run as amid? thank you :)
#46 [00:30] <dylanbarberdude> Your Welcome :D
#47 [00:30] <mr_sticky> thank you so much it works now :D
#48 [00:31] <|Kiikun|> mr_sticky: your firewall or AV are probbably tryign to block the download of LWJGL, part of minecraft.
#49 [00:31] <|Kiikun|> or that o.o;
#50 [00:31] * |Kiikun| shrugs
#50 [00:31] * |Kiikun| resumes animal farm building
#50 [00:31] <dylanbarberdude> admin bypasses firewall
#51 [00:31] <dylanbarberdude> and increases download speed
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#53 [00:31] <zkxs> definitely safe
#54 [00:32] <zkxs> :P
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#56 [00:36] * |Kiikun| has Big Plan fir animal farm :D
#56 [00:38] <dylanbarberdude> Too Many Items is old Not Enogh Items is new
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#58 [00:42] <anungunram666> Hi, I need help. I'm using a new computer, and I can't connect to minecraft.net through the client, and when I try to play offline using an old .minecraft file, I just get a black screen. Both of these work on my old laptop.
#59 [00:43] <zkxs> anungunram666: Are you on your new computer now?
#60 [00:43] <anungunram666> yeah
#61 [00:44] <zkxs> What error do you get?
#62 [00:44] <zkxs> "can't connect", etc?
#63 [00:44] <dylanbarberdude> run as admin
#64 [00:44] <anungunram666> yeah, it says can't connect to minecraft.net
#65 [00:45] <anungunram666> i've tried running as admin before, and i just tried it again
#66 [00:45] <anungunram666> same results
#67 [00:45] <zkxs> open Command Prompt
#68 [00:46] <anungunram666> alright
#69 [00:46] <dylanbarberdude> you at home or a campass
#70 [00:46] <anungunram666> i'm at home right now
#71 [00:47] <zkxs> actually, we can test this in a browser. try going to https://login.minecraft.net/?user=minecrafthelp&password=ftw&version=9001
#72 [00:47] <dylanbarberdude> ok
#73 [00:47] <dylanbarberdude> what isp
#74 [00:47] <zkxs> verizon
#75 [00:47] <dylanbarberdude> !login
#76 [00:48] <anungunram666> the link says bad login
#77 [00:48] <dylanbarberdude> !help
#78 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> I bet it's ! in the username
#79 [00:48] <dylanbarberdude> !client
#80 [00:48] <dylanbarberdude> ^^
#81 [00:48] <zkxs> anungunram666: well, what's your username?
#82 [00:48] <anungunram666> i'm logged in on the site though
#83 [00:49] <zkxs> your windows username
#84 [00:49] <anungunram666> ohh it's "zombielovin!"
#85 [00:49] <anungunram666> is that it?
#86 [00:49] <zkxs> GV wins!
#87 [00:49] <anungunram666> the "!"?
#88 [00:50] <zkxs> yep
#89 [00:50] <zkxs> ??> anungunram666 win/!
#90 [00:50] <VoxelHead> anungunram666: (win/!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#91 [00:50] <VoxelHead> anungunram666: (win/!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#92 [00:51] <anungunram666> Oh man! I had no idea; this has been bugging me for weeks
#93 [00:51] <dylanbarberdude> !paid anungunram666
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#95 [00:52] <zkxs> You get bonus points for using a semicolon.
#96 [00:52] <dylanbarberdude> hmmm...
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#98 [00:54] <anungunram666> I have paid for minecraft, I just misspelled this name. It's supposed to be anungunramA666
#99 [00:55] <anungunram666> The minecraft main menu is a glorious sight...
#100 [00:55] <anungunram666> Thanks a lot for the help guys!
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#102 [00:55] <bertolo> here
#103 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> there
#104 [00:55] <peva3> !check jerkcity.no-ip.org
#105 [00:55] <zkxs> everywhere!
#106 [00:55] <bertolo> omg
#107 [00:56] <bertolo> can u connect?
#108 [00:56] <peva3> im not on pc atm
#109 [00:56] <bertolo> oh
#110 [00:56] <bertolo> can anyone try?
#111 [00:56] <peva3> its being used
#112 [00:56] <bertolo> just to make sure
#113 [00:56] <bertolo> last time didnt work
#114 [00:56] <peva3> hmm bit laggy 215ms
#115 [00:56] <bertolo> plz can anyone connect
#116 [00:57] <zkxs> connect to jerkcity.no-ip.org?
#117 [00:57] <peva3> i would if i could
#118 [00:57] <zkxs> it is working for me
#119 [00:57] <peva3> you looking for ops?
#120 [00:58] <bertolo> me?
#121 [00:58] <bertolo> no thks
#122 [00:58] <bertolo> i look
#123 [00:58] <bertolo> for solutions only
#124 [00:58] <bertolo> :>
#125 [00:58] <bertolo> how can i get mc.servername.something in my dns
#126 [00:58] <peva3> caus im a good op
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#129 [01:03] <bertolo> jerkcity.no-ip.org plz test my server
#130 [01:03] <bertolo> and give me feedaback
#131 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> !check jerkcity.no-ip.org
#132 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> It works, 264ms ping
#133 [01:04] <bertolo> noone complained
#134 [01:04] <bertolo> yet
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#136 [01:05] <schnozzle> hello
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#139 [01:09] <TheNoodle> My account is gone on the irc forums :/
#140 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Blame Scott
#141 [01:09] <Scott> No!
#142 [01:09] <Scott> Blame God!
#143 [01:09] <Scott> HE DID IT
#144 [01:10] <tyteen4a03> Scott: your password requirements is too high :(
#145 [01:10] <schnozzle> when i try and run minecraft on the outdated version it says pixel format not excelerated..
#146 [01:10] <schnozzle> what the heck is that suposed to mean o.O
#147 [01:10] <tyteen4a03> schnozzle: Can you give us a dxdiag?
#148 [01:10] <tyteen4a03> ??> schnozzle win/dxdiag
#149 [01:10] <VoxelHead> schnozzle: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#150 [01:10] <VoxelHead> schnozzle: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#151 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Video card is too old, or your video card's drivers are outdated
#152 [01:11] <Scott> tyteen4a03: Actually, your password's complexity is too low.
#153 [01:12] <tyteen4a03> Scott: I mean, you don't always need to have a symbol... I can understand cases but symbols?
#154 [01:12] <TheNoodle> Scott, readd perms?
#155 [01:12] <TheNoodle> tyteen4a03, having symbols in your password can increase password complexity significantly :p
#156 [01:13] <tyteen4a03> $password .= "!"
#157 [01:13] <tyteen4a03> done
#158 [01:13] <Scott> TheNoodle: kdone
#159 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> $password.length() < 200. Denied
#160 [01:14] <TheNoodle> <3
#161 [01:14] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: I'd just put my essays in
#162 [01:15] <schnozzle> what is the win+R keys?
#163 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> Windows key is the one between the ctrl and alt keys, has the windows icon on it
#164 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> The R key is the R key. You use it to put in the letter R.
#165 [01:15] <tyteen4a03> how does this thing determine password complexity x_x?
#166 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> With monkeys.
#167 [01:16] <Scott> it analyzes what you type in based on the requirements i set
#168 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> I liked my reason better.
#169 [01:18] <tyteen4a03> (*h@!(*e$@()*je(*@!je@!(! <- tells me Password is not complex enough
#170 [01:19] <tyteen4a03> (*h@6!(*e$@()*je(*@1!je@!(! <- same for this one
#171 [01:19] <tyteen4a03> I guess I can't mash my keyboard :(
#172 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> Needs upper and lower case
#173 [01:19] <TheNoodle> tyteen4a03, there was no capital letter.
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#175 [01:19] <TheNoodle> ...what he said.
#176 [01:20] <Scott> Yahoo doesn't crawl the forums
#177 [01:20] <Scott> Bing crawled 10 days ago...
#178 [01:20] <Scott> Google is like all the time
#179 [01:22] <xales> Scott: Bing = Google
#180 [01:22] <zkxs> srsly, google even crawled my podunk ftp server based off #minecrafthelp logs it found somewhere
#181 [01:22] <xales> zkxs: Google tried to crawl us on IRC ports O.o
#182 [01:22] <Scott> that's true.
#183 [01:22] <Scott> Bing copies Google lol
#184 [01:23] <schnozzle> what is the IRC chanel
#185 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> You're in an IRC channel
#186 [01:23] <Scott> This is the IRC channel.
#187 [01:23] <schnozzle> ohh
#188 [01:23] <schnozzle> haha
#189 [01:23] <Scott> I swear someone asks this every day.
#190 [01:23] <schnozzle> here is the thing from paste bin
#191 [01:23] <schnozzle> http://pastebin.com/X8AF2wrC
#192 [01:25] <tyteen4a03> xales: wiki ready? jw
#193 [01:25] <tyteen4a03> zkxs: Google is watching you.
#194 [01:25] <xales> tyteen4a03: I forgot about it, I'll work on it tomorrow if you remind me.
#195 [01:25] <tyteen4a03> ok
#196 [01:25] <schnozzle> so i wont be able to play minecraft?
#197 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Go here: http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19
#198 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> Expand the Video section. Download and install the ATI Radeon mobility x1300/x1400 drivers
#199 [01:27] * GreyVulpine wonders if that actually goes to the right place...
#199 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Nope, of course not.
#200 [01:27] <schnozzle> what do i do now, i am at the drivers and downloads thing
#201 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> "Choose from a list of all dell products"
#202 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> Laptops -> Inspirion -> Inspirion 6400
#203 [01:30] <schnozzle> do i go to system configuration??
#204 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#205 [01:31] <schnozzle> right now i see product support
#206 [01:31] <schnozzle> and in that i see system configuration
#207 [01:32] <mr_sticky> this is my first time on, how do i join a server and can i also have the IP to a server?
#208 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> ??> mr_sticky smp/servers
#209 [01:32] <VoxelHead> mr_sticky: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#210 [01:32] <VoxelHead> mr_sticky: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#211 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> One of those sites will give you a server or two.
#212 [01:32] <mr_sticky> thank you all :)
#213 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - I have no idea where you see "system configuration"
#214 [01:35] <schnozzle> okay so i found the inspiron
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#219 [01:36] <schnozzle> but i do not see inspiron 6400
#220 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> Top left?
#221 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> er, right
#222 [01:36] <schnozzle> wait i found it
#223 [01:37] <schnozzle> now i click "find drivers and downloads" right?
#224 [01:37] <XBrett13> Why when I force update it wont because it still says im running 1.0.0
#225 [01:37] <XBrett13> and i cannot play multiplayer
#226 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> XBrett13 - Because that is the latest version
#227 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> XBrett13 - And why can't you?
#228 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Do you see operating system?
#229 [01:38] <schnozzle> yes
#230 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Drop down there, select Windows Vista
#231 [01:38] <XBrett13> im premium
#232 [01:38] <schnozzle> 32-bit?
#233 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Scroll down, till you see Video
#234 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#235 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> XBrett13 - Try the server: mc.minecraftirc.net
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#237 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> XBrett13 - Enter that into the multiplayer box of minecraft
#238 [01:39] <zelda> Hello
#239 [01:39] <zelda> ?
#240 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> Hello
#241 [01:39] <mr_sticky> i have another question my friend told me not to "greive" (dont know if its spelled correctly) he wasnt able to explain to me what it was before he left what is that?
#242 [01:39] <schnozzle> i found video
#243 [01:39] <schnozzle> which one do i click?
#244 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - The Radeon X1300/X1400 download button
#245 [01:39] <zelda> So, I just purchased a gift code for minecraft. How do i give it to my friend I bout it for?
#246 [01:40] <hmw> heheh I always thought, they are making a joke or a typo, when they write "greif"
#247 [01:40] <zelda> bought* sweet mother of god it's late
#248 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> zelda - You either should have gotten an email with it, or you can check your profile page at minecraft.net. Gift codes are listed there
#249 [01:41] <schnozzle> which download method should i use?
#250 [01:41] <zelda> thank you so much grey
#251 [01:41] <zelda> i about went off lol
#252 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - First one will do
#253 [01:41] <schnozzle> minecraft will work after it downloads right?
#254 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> And after you run the installer, and possibly reboot, then yes.
#255 [01:42] <XBrett13> okay that worked
#256 [01:42] <schnozzle> reboot the whole computer?
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#258 [01:42] <XBrett13> so i have to pretty much just find servers to play on then?
#259 [01:43] <hmw> schnozzle: Minecraft itself doesn't require a reboot. Did you have to install new drivers? They might perhaps require a reboot.
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#261 [01:43] <schnozzle> the drivers have not yet finished installing
#262 [01:43] <hmw> XBrett13: minestatus.net
#263 [01:43] <schnozzle> i will update you when they are
#264 [01:43] <hmw> no need
#265 [01:43] <schnozzle> thank you so much for the help :) i appreciate it
#266 [01:45] <hmw> Your appreciation is appreciated.
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#268 [01:51] <mib_ex9jxy> i click login, but it says "login failed", and give me the options "try again", and "Play Offline"
#269 [01:51] <mib_ex9jxy> and it hasnt worked for a couple weeks
#270 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Login failed means you're putting in your username/password wrong
#271 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Try logging into the website at minecraft.net?
#272 [01:52] <hmw> Firewall?
#273 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Firewall would be can't connect to minecraft.net
#274 [01:53] <hmw> What would it look like?
#275 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Login failed means they were able to query the login server, and got a response back
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#277 [01:53] <hmw> ic
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#285 [02:37] <Mentheus> Hello everyone
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#287 [02:43] <Mentheus> Anyone can help me get my minecraft running?
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#289 [02:46] <mr_sticky> how do i use text chat in multiplayer servers?
#290 [02:46] <mr_sticky> @Mentheus run your file as admilistrator
#291 [02:48] <Mentheus> mr_sticky: allready running it as admin ... dont help ... allways get an "cant connect to minecraft.net" error
#292 [02:49] <Mentheus> and then ... "try again" or "Play offline (not downloaded)
#293 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Mentheus - Has it ever worked before?
#294 [02:50] <Mentheus> no ... i just get it as a present
#295 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on Mentheus?
#296 [02:50] <Mentheus> Windows 7 64bit
#297 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> Mentheus - Does your windows username happen to have an exclaimation mark (!) in it?
#298 [02:50] <Mentheus> no
#299 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> Has it ever?
#300 [02:51] <Mentheus> no
#301 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> What security software do you run?
#302 [02:51] <Mentheus> avast
#303 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> The free version, or the security suite?
#304 [02:51] <Mentheus> allready tryed to turn it off
#305 [02:51] <Mentheus> free
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#307 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> Do you get a "Bad login" response back from this URL? https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#308 [02:53] <Mentheus> loading error
#309 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> loading error?
#310 [02:53] <Mentheus> cant load up the page
#311 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd and press enter
#312 [02:54] <Mentheus> so i can log in at my account at the minecraft.net page
#313 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> At the black command prompt, type in: ping minecraft.net
#314 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> What does it say after pinging minecraft.net....
#315 [02:54] <Mentheus> ping is working ... all 4 packs respond
#316 [02:55] <GreyVulpine> There should be 4 numbers, seperated by periods. What are those numbers?
#317 [02:55] <Mentheus> 128ms Ping (little laggy)
#318 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> You should see: Pinging minecraft.net [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
#319 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> What are the numbers in those brackets?
#320 [02:56] <Mentheus> 50.16.203.217
#321 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Now try: ping login.minecraft.net
#322 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> Tell me those numbers again
#323 [02:57] <Mentheus> wtf? ping goes to localhost? 127.0.0.1
#324 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> Ah-hah.
#325 [02:58] <Mentheus> how to fix this?
#326 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, somebody using the computer has tried to pirate minecraft in the past. To fix, go to your start menu, go to "all programs", then accessories.
#327 [02:59] <GreyVulpine> Right click on "Notepad" and run as admin
#328 [02:59] <GreyVulpine> Tell me when you have notepad open
#329 [02:59] <Mentheus> open
#330 [02:59] <GreyVulpine> Go up to file -> open
#331 [02:59] <GreyVulpine> In the dialog box, use: %systemroot%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
#332 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a line containing 127.0.0.1 login.minecraft.net ?
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#335 [03:00] <Mentheus> ok kicked that out
#336 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> Resave the file after removing it, then try minecraft again
#337 [03:01] <Mentheus> working
#338 [03:01] * GreyVulpine nods.
#338 [03:03] <Mentheus> how can that happens?
#339 [03:03] <Mentheus> ok ... forget about it ... allready know who that does
#340 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> The majority of cases why that happens, is because somebody using that computer attempted to pirate minecraft in the past. Many cracked/pirated copies of minecraft modify the hosts file to circumvent authentication
#341 [03:04] <Mentheus> son of my Girlfriend used my Computer for that when i am at work
#342 [03:04] <GreyVulpine> (I would also recommend a malware/antivirus scan, just to be sure as well)
#343 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> Some many copies are harmless, we have come across a few clients that have harbored a trojan or two.
#344 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, s/some/while/
#345 [03:05] <Mentheus> thats bad
#346 [03:06] <Mentheus> i got many games he can play and then a pirate copy of minecraft ... Head-->Wall
#347 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> Heh. We see it all the time here.
#348 [03:09] <Mentheus> ok, thanks for all the help ... mow playing minecraft ;) ... finally
#349 [03:09] <GreyVulpine> Glad we could help. Enjoy!
#350 [03:09] <GreyVulpine> And happy holidays.
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#352 [03:12] <gamakichi> give me a 1.0.0 mc patcher link
#353 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> Google for it
#354 [03:12] <gamakichi> did did not relly work
#355 [03:12] <gamakichi> give me a kink for one please
#356 [03:13] <gamakichi> link
#357 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-100-11w50aupdate-1216-mcpatcher-hd-fix-230-01/
#358 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> Using windows? mac?
#359 [03:13] <clarjon1> BEOS?
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#363 [03:22] <mib_tz5afw> can i have a link for singal player commands 1.0.0 minecraft
#364 [03:23] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/94310-100-single-player-commands-v301/
#365 [03:28] <mib_tz5afw> link for to down load songal player commands
#366 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/94310-100-single-player-commands-v301/#downloads
#367 [03:29] <mib_tz5afw> can i have a link for singal player commands 1.0.0
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#373 [03:39] <sancron> !help
#374 [03:39] <leaper> I'mtrying to download and runfor my grandson, but im not sure how to do it, i'm running windows os, Help please
#375 [03:39] <sancron> !paid walle1003
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#378 [03:45] <GreyVulpine> leaper - Did you pay for an account at minecraft.net?
#379 [03:45] <leaper> yes i did
#380 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> Then, you should be able to just download the Minecraft.exe client at www.minecraft.net/download and run it.
#381 [03:47] <leaper> yes i did figure it out, finally, just got it, ty very much and have a great holiday
#382 [03:48] <GreyVulpine> To you as well
#383 [03:48] <leaper> ty
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#395 [04:33] <Hawkhead> I accidentally broke a piece of glass in someones house in multiplayer and my friend saw me so they said "GRIEF!"
#396 [04:34] <Grim_Reaper> eee ._.
#397 [04:34] <Hawkhead> hello?
#398 [04:35] <SinZ> is it me, or you cant open 2 trap doors facing eachother at same time
#399 [04:35] <SinZ> its either 1 or the other, or neither
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#401 [04:36] <ixi84> hi guys!
#402 [04:36] <Hawkhead> hello!
#403 [04:37] <SinZ> http://mca.uk.to/scr/20111224203612.png
#404 [04:37] <ixi84> do someone want to help me? i have problems with the launcher :\
#405 [04:37] <SinZ> if you have 1 open, try and open other, both shut
#406 [04:39] <ixi84> it continues to say "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#407 [04:39] <ixi84> i got to play on the website :|
#408 [04:40] <Hawkhead> I accidentally broke a piece of glass in someones house in multiplayer and my friend saw me so they said "GRIEF!"
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#410 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> ixi84 - What operating system?
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#412 [04:44] <Hawkhead> hello??
#413 [04:45] <GreyVulpine> Hawkhead - And?
#414 [04:45] <Hawkhead> I accidentally broke a piece of glass in someones house in multiplayer and my friend saw me so they said "GRIEF!"
#415 [04:45] <GreyVulpine> Hawkhead - And?
#416 [04:46] <jguy00> PROBLEM: I boutgh a gift code on ebay, (dont ask me why), and then redamed it. It worked fin for a few months, but then today, when i tried to login, it returned a "user not premium" error help please?
#417 [04:46] <GreyVulpine> jguy00 - You were most likely scammed
#418 [04:46] <jguy00> i sad it worked fine for several monthes
#419 [04:46] <GreyVulpine> jguy00 - Mojang cannot do anything about that, this is going to be something you take up with the seller, or your bank
#420 [04:46] <Hawkhead> I did not have glass to fix it
#421 [04:46] <jguy00> i sad it worked fine for months do you not listen????
#422 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> Fine. Let me give you a scenario.
#423 [04:47] <jguy00> shoot
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#425 [04:48] <ixi84> sorry GreyVulpine
#426 [04:48] <ixi84> win 7 64x
#427 [04:48] <Hawkhead> also I don`t have minecraft on this computer
#428 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> I'm a wonderful person. I go onto minecraft.net right now to purchase a gift code. I purchase a gift code at the going rate of 20 euros, or about 27 dollars USD with my credit card. I go onto ebay, or any number of other auction sites and sell it.
#429 [04:49] <jguy00> yes...
#430 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> Now, I don't know how much you bought your gift code for, but I'm giving you 3 possible options at this point. You either purchased the gift code for under 20 euros, which means i lost money. You purchased the gift code for 20 euros, which means I made no profit at all (I would actually be losing money from listing the product as well as fees for redeeming the money from paypal), or I
#431 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> sold it to you for more than it's worth, which means I'm ripping you off.
#432 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> Regardless of what you paid me for the gift code. I give you an authentic gift code in return for your purchase. You redeem it happily at minecraft.net/redeem
#433 [04:51] <jguy00> i think it was for 15 US, but regardless, yes i redeamed it
#434 [04:51] <jguy00> and it worked for a time
#435 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> You play for weeks, a few months, fine. I call up my credit card, and request a chargeback on the money I paid for the gift code. I say, "I didn't receive the product, or I got scammed, or this purchase was made without my authorization"
#436 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> I get back the 20 euros on the minecraft gift code that I purchased, and now, I'm up the 15 US dollars that you paid me.
#437 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> You are out of a legit premium minecraft account, and I pocket the money that you paid me.
#438 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> This is something this chat room has seen time and time again, unfortunately.
#439 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> You need to ask yourself, if minecraft costs 27 dollars USD, why would the person be selling a gift code for 15 dollars?
#440 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> Where's the profit to be made on that gift code?
#441 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> Is the seller just out 12 bucks with each gift code that he sells?
#442 [04:54] <jguy00> incidently, what was the beta price?
#443 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> beta price was 15 euros, or a little over 20 bucks
#444 [04:55] <jguy00> k thanks for the answer, i will look into this... if im out 15 US then oh well...
#445 [04:55] <jguy00> thank you
#446 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> If you paid through paypal, they have a buyers protection clause.
#447 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> If you paid through your credit card, you can file a dispute
#448 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> Either way, this is something you'll need to take to your financial institution.
#449 [04:57] <jguy00> yes i will look into that, though i had to resort to ebay becouse all i had was a visa gift card and minecraft.net would not accept it.. so i dont know if ebay will be able to help me
#450 [04:58] <jguy00> oh well, life sucks sometimes
#451 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> You're not the first one to get scammed, and you certainly won't be the last..
#452 [04:58] <jguy00> yep, goodnight
#453 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> Take care
#454 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> Take care
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#458 [05:08] <Hawkhead> hello?!
#459 [05:08] <hmw> hi
#460 [05:09] <Hawkhead> I accidentally broke a piece of glass in someones house in multiplayer and my friend saw me so they said "GRIEF!"
#461 [05:10] <hmw> somewhat sensitive
#462 [05:10] <Hawkhead> ?????
#463 [05:10] <hmw> the guy who said grief"
#464 [05:12] <Hawkhead> yes um...what do u mean?
#465 [05:13] <hmw> just one broken glass pane is not griefing
#466 [05:13] <Hawkhead> o not really
#467 [05:13] <Hawkhead> o
#468 [05:13] <hmw> sarcasm fail
#469 [05:14] <Hawkhead> ok?
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#471 [05:14] <comediandisco> sup guys
#472 [05:14] <GreyVulpine> Hawkhead - So how can we help?
#473 [05:15] <comediandisco> ive got a question concerning DEEP SPACE TURTLE CHASE the new custom map
#474 [05:15] <GreyVulpine> comediandisco - Yes?
#475 [05:15] <comediandisco> so
#476 [05:15] <comediandisco> i want to play this map with my friend
#477 [05:16] <Hawkhead> do I really have to repeat myself AGAIN? I accidentally broke a piece of glass in someones house in multiplayer and my friend saw me so they said "GRIEF!
#478 [05:16] <comediandisco> but i cant seem to find how to use it for multiplayer
#479 [05:16] <GreyVulpine> Hawkhead - So?
#480 [05:16] <GreyVulpine> Hawkhead - I see no problem with that at all
#481 [05:16] <Hawkhead> cool
#482 [05:17] <comediandisco> do you guys know how to get it to work for multiplayer
#483 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> comediandisco - Do you have the multiplayer server?
#484 [05:17] <Hawkhead> goodnight!
#485 [05:17] <comediandisco> the minecraft one or the map one
#486 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> comediandisco - The minecraft one.
#487 [05:18] <comediandisco> ya ive got
#488 [05:18] <Hawkhead> merry Xmas too
#489 [05:18] <comediandisco> that
#490 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> comediandisco - Does it work?
#491 [05:18] <comediandisco> ya i always use it with hamachi to play custom maps. Its just that this specific map is different
#492 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> comediandisco - So, when you launch the server, do you see the additional files it generates?
#493 [05:19] <comediandisco> wait let me launch it
#494 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> Where do you have the server right now?
#495 [05:19] <comediandisco> so i go to my server folder and click Minecraft_Server.exe
#496 [05:20] <comediandisco> in a folder i made called server
#497 [05:20] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Go to that folder, you should see other files as well
#498 [05:20] <comediandisco> ya like properties, white list etc
#499 [05:20] <GreyVulpine> Along with that, a 'world' folder, yes?
#500 [05:21] <comediandisco> no, because the last one i played i finished and deleted it.
#501 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> Alright. well, the default world stores in the 'world' folder.
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#504 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> This is determined by the server.properties line, level-name=world
#505 [05:22] <comediandisco> ya i know
#506 [05:23] <comediandisco> i just dont know wat to put in there for this map.
#507 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> If you moved in a new world, you can either rename the folder, or modify the level-name in server.properties
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#509 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> Well, could you give me a link to the actual world you downloaded?
#510 [05:23] <comediandisco> normally i just put the custom map world file in there and change the server properties name and stuff and play
#511 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> Right....
#512 [05:23] <comediandisco> but this map has so much different stuff
#513 [05:24] <comediandisco> ok wait
#514 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> Please give me a link to where you got this map from
#515 [05:24] <comediandisco> http://thevoxelbox.com/minecraft/maps/
#516 [05:24] <blaphmat> Could i have some help i had modded the game but then got rid of the mods and tried to download the vannila game but it fails at different files?
#517 [05:24] <comediandisco> its a very famous map
#518 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> blaphmat - Go to your .minecraft folder, delete everything but 'saves'. then run minecraft again
#519 [05:24] <comediandisco> its massive, takes like an hour to download
#520 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> comediandisco - I don't use custom maps at all. There's probably thousands of maps out there.
#521 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> nobody knows them all
#522 [05:25] <comediandisco> k
#523 [05:26] <blaphmat> It still fails
#524 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow, it requires a modded client, and a modded server to use that map
#525 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> blaphmat - What file does it get stuck on?
#526 [05:26] <blaphmat> lwjgl.jar but sometimes is the actuel minecraft jar it gets stuck on
#527 [05:26] <comediandisco> so u dont know how to make it work?
#528 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> comediandisco - Sorry, you're on your own for that part. I don't do mods.
#529 [05:27] <blaphmat> actual*
#530 [05:27] <blaphmat> Erm comedia i think i might know
#531 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> It's also 5:30 in the morning here, so this is something that would take far more time than I'm willing to spend
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#533 [05:27] <blaphmat> does the map file come with an installer?
#534 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> blaphmat - Yes it does
#535 [05:27] <blaphmat> If you run the installer
#536 [05:27] <comediandisco> u do
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#538 [05:27] <blaphmat> it should mod the client
#539 [05:28] <comediandisco> ya i ran that for windows
#540 [05:28] <comediandisco> i did that
#541 [05:28] <blaphmat> Is there a read me in the file?
#542 [05:28] <comediandisco> ya my .minecraft folder is all modded up and on single player the sounds, voice overs, texture packs are all good
#543 [05:28] <comediandisco> wat file
#544 [05:28] <blaphmat> Read.me
#545 [05:29] <blaphmat> Oh the adventure map file
#546 [05:29] <blaphmat> And im guessing th map is "Deep space turtle chase"?
#547 [05:29] <comediandisco> ya
#548 [05:29] <comediandisco> um
#549 [05:29] <GreyVulpine> blaphmat - Question for you, Do you run AVG or similar antivirus?
#550 [05:29] <comediandisco> there is included mods.txt and installer.log
#551 [05:29] <blaphmat> Avg
#552 [05:30] <blaphmat> Virus buisness edition
#553 [05:30] <GreyVulpine> blaphmat - Could you please go into AVG's options, and disable the Linkscanner module for it. Then try minecraft again
#554 [05:30] <GreyVulpine> It's been known to cause this problem
#555 [05:31] <comediandisco> theres no read me just these two that i listed above blaphmat
#556 [05:31] <blaphmat> Okay if the mods working it should be fine
#557 [05:31] <blaphmat> and i cnat find the option to disable linkscanner
#558 [05:31] <blaphmat> cant*
#559 [05:32] <blaphmat> In the file theres a tick box which allows be to disable search shield?
#560 [05:32] <comediandisco> are u talking to me?
#561 [05:32] <blaphmat> No Grey Vulpine
#562 [05:34] <blaphmat> Thanks grey it worked :)
#563 [05:34] <comediandisco> ah ok
#564 [05:34] <comediandisco> um ya so there is no read me
#565 [05:34] <GreyVulpine> comediandisco - Sorry. Looks like you need to download the server version of the map and use that
#566 [05:35] <comediandisco> just installer.log and includedmods.txt
#567 [05:35] <comediandisco> i tried that and it says that the server is outdated so now im asking if i can get it onto my own server.
#568 [05:36] <{unimatrix}> http://cheezburger.com/unimatrix999/lolz/View/5607375872
#569 [05:38] <comediandisco> anyone know?
#570 [05:42] <comediandisco> my general question so everyone can see is.....
#571 [05:46] <comediandisco> How do I get DEEP SPACE TURTLE CHASE onto my OWN Server so i can play with my friend. The maps server doesnt work cause its outdated. What parts of the map do i need to put onto my Servers Folder so that i get all the voice overs and sounds etc. Also does my friend need to download it to have all the sounds and mods
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#573 [05:54] <Worst93> hi
#574 [05:55] <Worst93> I forgot my password, and the "forgot password" function doesnt work because I dont receive an Email
#575 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> Mojang's email provider is experiencing problems, nothing you can do about it except wait it out
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#577 [05:56] <Worst> hello?
#578 [05:58] <GreyVulpine> Mojang's email provider is experiencing problems, nothing you can do about it except wait it out
#579 [05:59] <Worst> but I tried it months ago, does it mean I have to try it again and again and hope it works?
#580 [06:00] <Grim_Reaper> Have you tried checking your junk/spam folder when you've tried resetting it? Also double check it's the right email
#581 [06:01] <Worst> checked it severel times...nothing in that folder....
#582 [06:01] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm. Not sure then
#583 [06:02] <Worst> Im trying it since months now.....It always says a Mail should make its way to my inbox momentary...but nothing comes in...
#584 [06:06] <Worst> no ideas? :(
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#587 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> Worst - We can do nothing about account issues here. Send an email to help@mojang.com
#588 [06:08] <Worst> thank you
#589 [06:14] <comediandisco> How do I get DEEP SPACE TURTLE CHASE onto my OWN Server so i can play with my friend. The maps server doesnt work cause its outdated. What parts of the map do i need to put onto my Servers Folder so that i get all the voice overs and sounds etc. Also does my friend need to download it to have all the sounds and mods
#590 [06:15] <GreyVulpine> Honestly don't think you'll get an answer to that question at this hour. May need to come back later.
#591 [06:16] <comediandisco> but has no one here played this map in multiplayer
#592 [06:17] <comediandisco> u guys know the yogscast?
#593 [06:17] <comediandisco> like that
#594 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> Heard of them, absolutely hate their mods.
#595 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> Don't care for their youtube channel.
#596 [06:18] <comediandisco> well u get the point
#597 [06:18] <comediandisco> they play in multiplayer
#598 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, you like yogscast, go ask them for help
#599 [06:19] <comediandisco> um they have like wat a million subscibers and get like wat 1000 emails a day. they wont answer
#600 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> And we don't assist with mods here. Sorry.
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#603 [06:30] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheCar
#604 [06:30] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheBar
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#607 [06:39] <Chichola> Can anyone tell me why I lag like crazy every 5 or 10 minutes in SMP?
#608 [06:41] <Chichola> Anyone?
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#612 [06:48] <weirdo> hi, how can i watch all the items a player has?
#613 [06:48] <weirdo> i'm using CB1597, lwc, logblock... how can i know how much diamonds some user has?
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#622 [07:29] <djkirk> hello
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#624 [07:41] <germanguy17> hey :)
#625 [07:42] <germanguy17> my question is: my problem is that mozilla firefox's screen goes black as soon as I play minecraft. Do u have any ideas how to get rid of that?
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#628 [07:58] <germanguy17> my question is: my problem is that mozilla firefox's screen goes black as soon as I play minecraft. Do u have any ideas how to get rid of that?
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#635 [08:13] <MasterBuilder> when i start my minecraft it says updating up top and the par never fills but it says done loading what should i do
#636 [08:13] <MasterBuilder> bar*
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#638 [08:17] <hmw> germanguy17: Update your GPU drivers and make sure, you are using Sun Java 1.6.0_30
#639 [08:17] <master> my minecraft says its updating but it never updates
#640 [08:17] <hmw> master: What OS do you use?
#641 [08:17] <germanguy17> all right, I'll try it: thx a lto
#642 [08:17] <germanguy17> *lot
#643 [08:18] <hmw> Gernedoch ;-)
#644 [08:18] <master> how do i check
#645 [08:18] <hmw> Windows 7?
#646 [08:18] <TheNoodle> An example would be windows 7 or OS X master.
#647 [08:18] <master> i have windows 7
#648 [08:18] <TheNoodle> ??> master win/reinst
#649 [08:18] <VoxelHead> master: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#650 [08:18] <VoxelHead> master: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#651 [08:20] <master> doesnt work to delete bin
#652 [08:22] <TheNoodle> Where does it stop updating?
#653 [08:22] <master> it still doesnt work
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#655 [08:23] <master> i did everything you said but it still doesnt work
#656 [08:24] <master> please help i realy want my minecraft to work
#657 [08:26] * TheNoodle slaps master
#657 [08:26] <TheNoodle> "+TheNoodle : Where does it stop updating?"
#658 [08:26] <germanguy17> haha, yes. how to update 1.6.# to 1.6.0_30?
#659 [08:26] <master> what do you mean
#660 [08:28] <TheNoodle> germanguy17, uninstall java and redownload from heve V
#661 [08:28] <TheNoodle> :j
#662 [08:28] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#663 [08:28] <TheNoodle> master, when it says it's updating, does it say anything else or just the word 'updating'
#664 [08:29] <germanguy17> thank you very much, c ya and merry christmas to aaaall :D
#665 [08:29] <master> it says updating minecraft then by the progress bar it says done loading but it never loads7
#666 [08:29] <master> loads*
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#668 [08:33] <master> anyone help
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#671 [08:36] <sawiiasdfasdf> i need support
#672 [08:36] <iREPv4> Hello, i bought the game yesterday and still have nothing.
#673 [08:36] <sawiiasdfasdf> I have bought the game a long time ago, yet my account isn't premium anymore
#674 [08:36] <TheNoodle> ??> iREPv4 payment
#675 [08:36] <VoxelHead> iREPv4: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#676 [08:36] <hmw> master: win/reinst
#677 [08:36] <VoxelHead> iREPv4: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#678 [08:37] <TheNoodle> sawiiasdfasdf, try redownloading the launcher.
#679 [08:37] <iREPv4> I will talk with Notch.
#680 [08:37] <iREPv4> Becuase i bought it about 12 hours ago.
#681 [08:38] <TheNoodle> "If it has been more than a few days"
#682 [08:38] * TheNoodle shrugs
#682 [08:38] <TheNoodle> Good luck.
#683 [08:39] <iREPv4> Goodbye
#684 [08:41] <sawiiasdfasdf> I have already redownloaded the launcher
#685 [08:41] <sawiiasdfasdf> I think i bought the game when it was in 1.3 or something, played it a bit, didn't play it for a long time and than went back to it today
#686 [08:41] <sawiiasdfasdf> and my account isn't premium
#687 [08:41] <TrueWolves> What is your account name?
#688 [08:42] <sawiiasdfasdf> sjoerdw
#689 [08:43] <TheNoodle> !paid sjoerdw
#690 [08:43] * TheNoodle pokes AuBot
#690 [08:43] <TrueWolves> According to that your account never was premium.
#691 [08:43] <TheNoodle> I'm assuming you bought minecraft from minecraft.net?
#692 [08:43] <sawiiasdfasdf> yes
#693 [08:43] <TrueWolves> how much did you pay for it?
#694 [08:44] <sawiiasdfasdf> i think it was 15 euro
#695 [08:44] <sawiiasdfasdf> i could go check my bank records
#696 [08:44] <TrueWolves> That would be best *nod*
#697 [08:44] <TheNoodle> Assuming you still have proof of purchase email support.
#698 [08:44] <sawiiasdfasdf> whats their email ?
#699 [08:44] <sawiiasdfasdf> couldn't find it on the site ^^
#700 [08:46] <TheNoodle> Send it to help@mojang.com support@mojang.com and daniel@mojang.com since I'm not sure which one to use.
#701 [08:46] <TheNoodle> :D
#702 [08:46] <sawiiasdfasdf> will do ^^
#703 [08:46] <sawiiasdfasdf> thx for helping
#704 [08:47] <hmw> help@
#705 [08:47] <TheNoodle> hmw, ?
#706 [08:48] <hmw> they canceled support@mojang.com
#707 [08:48] <hmw> and currently, there is only help@mojang.com. Don't know about Daniel's
#708 [08:51] <Wug> TrueWolves: there is an issue with accounts that have been migrated to mojang accounts not haspaiding properly, they show as nonpremium
#709 [08:51] <TrueWolves> Ahhh
#710 [08:51] <Wug> so pretty much anyone who has gotten cobalt
#711 [08:51] * TrueWolves nodnods
#711 [08:51] <TrueWolves> Then that makes a lot more sense
#712 [08:51] <hmw> cobalt?
#713 [08:52] <Wug> its a thing mojang did
#714 [08:52] <Wug> I know very little about it, I'd ask google
#715 [08:52] <hmw> 'course
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#717 [08:56] <Deago> hello people i need help today
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#719 [08:56] <Balee> Hey!
#720 [08:57] <Deago> my minecraft was working perfectly, i tried to install the technic pack and now i get a Java virtual machine launcher error, i tried to restore my mine craft from my back up but it still gives me the same error
#721 [08:57] <Deago> now i cant use it
#722 [08:58] <Deago> anyone?
#723 [08:58] <Balee> Am I right to assume that the easiest way to deal with mods is to have your unmodded .jar backed up in the same directory, and have the modded .jar there as well, and simply switch when needed?
#724 [08:58] <TrueWolves> Deago, have you tried redownloading the base client?
#725 [08:58] <Balee> Deago: What technic pack?
#726 [08:59] <Deago> TrueWolves: no i havnt, how do i do that
#727 [08:59] <Deago> Balee: the newest one
#728 [08:59] <TrueWolves> Go to the site www.minecraft.net and just redownload the game?
#729 [08:59] <Balee> No, I mean what do you mean by technic pack?
#730 [08:59] <Balee> It might be obvious for others, I'm just curious.
#731 [08:59] <Balee> And yes, what TrueWolves' saying.
#732 [08:59] <Deago> Balee: its a "program" filled with mods you can you can use like build craft and somnia and all the rest and its in an easy self installer
#733 [09:00] <Balee> So it's a mod organizer of some sort?
#734 [09:00] <Deago> do you know a link to a CLEAN 1.8.1 jar file?
#735 [09:00] <Deago> Balee: organiser and installer
#736 [09:00] <Balee> Why would you need a 1.8.1 when you can get 1.0?
#737 [09:00] <Wug> Deago: distributing minecraft files is illegal, go read the tos
#738 [09:01] <Deago> Balee: my servers i join only run on 1.8.1 jar
#739 [09:01] <Wug> search on the forums for "mcnostalgia"
#740 [09:01] <Wug> tell them to update
#741 [09:01] <Deago> Wug: i know htat but it doesnt stop people from doing it
#742 [09:01] <Wug> Deago: this is an official support channel
#743 [09:01] <Wug> as such we only support legal things
#744 [09:02] <Deago> they only running 1.8.1 at the moment, the 1.0 side is still being created
#745 [09:03] <Deago> We in South Africa so it takes a little longer and the 1.0 bucket was only recently
#746 [09:03] <Deago> im still getting the same error
#747 [09:05] <Deago> any advice?
#748 [09:05] <Deago> I dont even get to the log in screen, just the error
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#750 [09:07] <Deago> anyone?
#751 [09:08] <TheNoodle> ??> Deago win/reinst
#752 [09:08] <VoxelHead> Deago: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#753 [09:08] <VoxelHead> Deago: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#754 [09:08] <Deago> VoxelHead: will try that now thanks
#755 [09:08] <TheNoodle> Do that, then use mcnostalgia if you want an earlier version. In the future you should make a backup of your minecraft.jar before making any changes.
#756 [09:09] <Deago> TheNoodle: i have a back up and i tried to apply it and the same error come up
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#758 [09:09] <TheNoodle> And this only occurred after attemting to install the pack?
#759 [09:09] <TheNoodle> *attempting
#760 [09:09] <Deago> TheNoodle: yes other times it works perfectly
#761 [09:10] <Deago> i just jsut recently tried to install some technic pack mods and then this
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#763 [09:10] <TheNoodle> Does the technic pack modify the launcher at all?
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#765 [09:11] <quaddle> i just purchased the game for my son, it will not start, says video driver needs to be updated, i did and it still says the same thing, what can i do
#766 [09:11] <Deago> TheNoodle: i dont really know
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#769 [09:12] <peva3> i just tried to join #risucraft but im banned!? Who is an op on #risucraft
#770 [09:12] <TheNoodle> Deago, follow the reinst instructions and delete minecraft.exe (redownload from minecraft.net)
#771 [09:12] <TheNoodle> Deago, follow the reinst instructions and delete minecraft.exe (redownload from minecraft.net)
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#773 [09:13] <Deago> TheNoodle: the reinst instructions? which ones? i deleted my whole .minecraft file and copeied my othe rback up and still nothing
#774 [09:13] <Deago> then i tried redownloading the launcher and still the samething
#775 [09:13] <TheNoodle> no, don't use any of your backups.
#776 [09:13] <peva3> hello
#777 [09:13] <TheNoodle> ??> Deago win/reinst
#778 [09:13] <VoxelHead> Deago: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#779 [09:14] <VoxelHead> Deago: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#780 [09:14] <TheNoodle> peva3, let me scroll back and see why you were banned.
#781 [09:14] <peva3> i wasn't
#782 [09:14] <peva3> ...
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#784 [09:14] <TheNoodle> You noticed an entire channel.
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#786 [09:15] <peva3> What does that mean?
#787 [09:15] <TheNoodle> wait, that wasn't you...
#788 [09:15] * TheNoodle grumbles
#788 [09:15] <TheNoodle> why does everyone have to use vivid.
#789 [09:15] <Deago> VoxelHead: i did all i have is the saves folder and i click the launcher and nothing the same error
#790 [09:15] <TheNoodle> Deago, what is the error?
#791 [09:15] <TheNoodle> And VoxelHead is a bot.
#792 [09:16] <Deago> TheNoodle: Java Virtual MAchine Launcher
#793 [09:16] <TheNoodle> Try uninstalling java then redownloading from here V
#794 [09:16] <TheNoodle> :j
#795 [09:16] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#796 [09:17] <peva3> TheNoodle i have never joined #risucraft before
#797 [09:18] <Deago> ill give that a try brb
#798 [09:18] <TheNoodle> Well you have peva3, because there's a ban for you specifically.
#799 [09:18] <TheNoodle> Dec 24th 1:39pm (GMT+8)
#800 [09:19] <peva3> hmmm...
#801 [09:20] <quaddle> hello..... anybody
#802 [09:20] <peva3> Must of been my brother!
#803 [09:20] <TheNoodle> ??> quaddle dxdiag
#804 [09:20] <TheNoodle> ??> quaddle win/dxdiag
#805 [09:20] <VoxelHead> quaddle: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#806 [09:20] <VoxelHead> quaddle: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#807 [09:22] <peva3> TheNoodle
#808 [09:24] <TheNoodle> Yes?
#809 [09:25] <quaddle> whats Win+R key?
#810 [09:25] <Wug> :win/key > quaddle
#811 [09:25] <WugBot> quaddle: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
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#813 [09:25] <peva3> Why was my bro banned?
#814 [09:26] <TheNoodle> No idea, nor do I care :3
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#816 [09:27] <peva3> i do because i cant join caus of him
#817 [09:27] <peva3> !
#818 [09:28] <TheNoodle> try pming lahwran.
#819 [09:28] <Wug> peva3: they akicked you
#820 [09:28] <Wug> so you mustve done something really annoying
#821 [09:28] <TheNoodle> ouch :P
#822 [09:28] <peva3> akicked?
#823 [09:29] <Wug> network services will automatically ban you if you join the channe;
#824 [09:29] <peva3> I just asked my bro what he did
#825 [09:30] <peva3> he repeted Long Live Yogscast!
#826 [09:30] <peva3> alot of times
#827 [09:30] <quaddle> so far so goo, now what is the IRC channel?
#828 [09:30] <Wug> peva3: try joining again
#829 [09:30] <Wug> quaddle: this is
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#831 [09:31] <peva3> lahwran invited me
#832 [09:32] <peva3> he kicked me
#833 [09:32] <Wug> why do you even want to be there
#834 [09:33] <peva3> mod questions and smalltalk about mods
#835 [09:33] <quaddle> i pasted them to the pastebin but wheres the link?
#836 [09:33] <TheNoodle> in the address bar of your browser.
#837 [09:34] <_303> hi peva3
#838 [09:34] <peva3> hi
#839 [09:34] <_303> lahwran_: hi
#840 [09:34] <_303> fight.
#841 [09:34] <quaddle> http://pastebin.com/x1589aGc
#842 [09:35] <_303> peva3: unbanned. rejoin.
#843 [09:35] * _303 blames wug
#843 [09:36] <Wug> quaddle: http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/04/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats?DriverId=984X8&FileId=2731098204
#844 [09:36] <Wug> download and install that driver
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#850 [09:52] <mib_qfmdh3> i was just on trying to fix minecraft to play
#851 [09:53] <mib_qfmdh3> i did everything and now when i go on, it shows the java sign downloading and thats all
#852 [09:53] <mib_qfmdh3> still says video driver bad
#853 [09:53] <mib_qfmdh3> i restarted the computer
#854 [09:53] <tyteen4a03> mib_qfmdh3: Please give us a computer info report.
#855 [09:53] <tyteen4a03> ??> mib_qfmdh3 win/dxdiag
#856 [09:53] <VoxelHead> mib_qfmdh3: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#857 [09:54] <VoxelHead> mib_qfmdh3: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#860 [10:02] <mib_qfmdh3> http://pastebin.com/qJ8mpmLa
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#862 [10:04] <tyteen4a03> mib_qfmdh3: Hang on
#863 [10:05] <mib_qfmdh3> ?
#864 [10:05] <mib_qfmdh3> k
#865 [10:06] <tyteen4a03> mib_qfmdh3: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=2301&DwnldID=18223&ProductFamily=Internet+Devices&ProductLine=Netbooks&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%C2%AE+945GM+Express+Chipset+Family&lang=eng
#866 [10:06] <tyteen4a03> Please install this driver
#867 [10:06] <dylanbarberdude> why
#868 [10:07] <tyteen4a03> ??> dylanbarberdude only/you
#869 [10:07] <VoxelHead> dylanbarberdude: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#870 [10:07] <VoxelHead> dylanbarberdude: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#871 [10:08] * TrueWolves pets Voxel
#871 [10:08] <dylanbarberdude> i know im just crious i have the same chipset :(
#872 [10:08] <tyteen4a03> dylandbarberdude: You sure?
#873 [10:08] <dylanbarberdude> yes
#874 [10:09] <TheNytangel> TrueWolves: he called you fat...
#875 [10:09] <tyteen4a03> dylanbarberdude: Do you need us to check for you? Or else yes, using that would be fine
#876 [10:10] <TrueWolves> Meh'
#877 [10:10] <TheNytangel> Or in his words, horizontally enhanced
#878 [10:10] <TrueWolves> I actually remmeber that. XD
#879 [10:10] <tyteen4a03> I HAVE LONG HANDS
#880 [10:10] <tyteen4a03> JEALOUS?
#881 [10:10] <dylanbarberdude> what does the driver do
#882 [10:11] <tyteen4a03> dylanbarberdude: It updates the video card so it supports more features
#883 [10:11] <mib_qfmdh3> after trying to download, error message saying driver being installed is not validated for this computer. please obtain the appropriate driver from the computers manufacturer
#884 [10:11] <tyteen4a03> mib_qfmdh3: hmm... hand on
#885 [10:11] <tyteen4a03> *hang
#886 [10:11] <dylanbarberdude> like what
#887 [10:11] <tyteen4a03> mib_qfmdh3: Oh, I gave you the wrong link
#888 [10:12] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#889 [10:12] <tyteen4a03> mib_qfmdh3: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=2301&DwnldID=16835&ProductFamily=Internet+Devices&ProductLine=Netbooks&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%c2%ae+945GM+Express+Chipset+Family&lang=eng
#890 [10:12] <tyteen4a03> This is the correct one for Windows XP
#891 [10:12] * TheNytangel goes into sleep mode to play TF2
#891 [10:13] <dylanbarberdude> Is TF2 good? I'm thinking of downloading it.
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#893 [10:17] <almostroot> dylanbarberdude: Wrong place.
#894 [10:17] <dylanbarberdude> sozzy
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#897 [10:25] <tyteen4a03> I downloaded TF2 just for a friend
#898 [10:25] <tyteen4a03> I don't even play it
#899 [10:25] <tyteen4a03> g *hint hint*
#900 [10:25] <dylanbarberdude> kool
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#905 [10:44] <dylanbarberdude> bye
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#908 [10:49] <quibbit> My minecraft account login doesnt work, on the website or in game.
#909 [10:50] <tyteen4a03> quibbit: What happens when you login?
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#911 [10:52] <quibbit> in game it says "login failed" and on the website it says "oops, invalid username or password"
#912 [10:52] <SinZ> That tends to mean wrong password
#913 [10:52] <TheNoodle> :resetpass
#914 [10:52] <WugBot> resetpass: You can reset the password for your minecraft account using the following page: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#915 [10:52] <quibbit> but I know its the correct password
#916 [10:52] <SinZ> correct username?
#917 [10:52] <SinZ> username is case sensitive too
#918 [10:52] <quibbit> yep
#919 [11:01] <Wug> if youve migrated your account you can not login to minecraft.net until its fixed
#920 [11:01] <Wug> its currently broken
#921 [11:01] <Wug> whats your minecraft username
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#923 [11:07] <tyteen4a03> Wug: account migration...?
#924 [11:07] <gama> no
#925 [11:07] <tyteen4a03> never heard of that
#926 [11:07] <tyteen4a03> ??> gama only/you
#927 [11:07] <VoxelHead> gama: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#928 [11:07] <VoxelHead> gama: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#929 [11:08] <gama> sry
#930 [11:10] <gama> i need help though. when i start up minecraft it loads java jumps to the updating minecraft part of the loading, then the screen turns white
#931 [11:12] <gama> so nobody is goint to help me.cool
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#938 [11:36] <Triggerdusk> Howdy folks
#939 [11:36] <Triggerdusk> So im trying to place a single player map as my server map how do i do this?
#940 [11:37] <dylanbarberdude> drag and drop
#941 [11:37] <Triggerdusk> duh i mean where do i go
#942 [11:39] <dylanbarberdude> ctrl+R thenntype %appdata% press enter
#943 [11:39] <dylanbarberdude> go to .minecraft/saves
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#945 [11:40] <AVeryFestiveRagont> Hello
#946 [11:40] <Triggerdusk> ok
#947 [11:40] <dylanbarberdude> you see it?
#948 [11:41] <AVeryFestiveRagont> Can someone tell me how to find a bad chunk on my server world?
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#950 [11:41] <dylanbarberdude> you cant
#951 [11:41] <dylanbarberdude> you have no choice deletw the world
#952 [11:42] <Triggerdusk> or find a good world editor
#953 [11:42] <AVeryFestiveRagont> I found MCEdit
#954 [11:42] <AVeryFestiveRagont> But how do I FIND the bad chunks
#955 [11:42] <dylanbarberdude> you cant
#956 [11:43] <dylanbarberdude> just save bits of the server in scematic then get the seed
#957 [11:44] <AVeryFestiveRagont> Hm
#958 [11:46] <AVeryFestiveRagont> Thanks
#959 [11:47] <dylanbarberdude> Triggerdusk, You got it?
#960 [11:48] <dylanbarberdude> the yogpod is a part of british culture its a fact
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#963 [11:49] <Ragont> Back
#964 [11:50] <Ragont> Just wanted to ask, is it possible to get the world seed from the server?
#965 [11:50] <dylanbarberdude> yes
#966 [11:50] <dylanbarberdude> F3
#967 [11:50] <Ragont> Hm
#968 [11:51] <Ragont> Btw, if I use the same seed, it won't give me bad chunks
#969 [11:51] <Ragont> Right?
#970 [11:51] <dylanbarberdude> right!
#971 [11:51] <Ragont> Ok
#972 [11:51] <Ragont> Thanks, then
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#975 [11:56] <Xxmas0n13xX> Minecraft will close when i try to open my world PLEASE HELP
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#978 [11:57] <Xxmas0n13xX> hello???
#979 [11:58] <Xxmas0n13xX> can anyone help me
#980 [11:59] <ryanxpei> I like rule #0: Be excellent to each other
#981 [12:00] <ryanxpei> WYLD STALLYNS!
#982 [12:00] <almostroot> Xxmas0n13xX: Does it display an error message or create an error file in the same location as the Minecraft launcher?
#983 [12:00] <Xxmas0n13xX> yes
#984 [12:00] <dylanbarberdude> bye
#985 [12:00] <dylanbarberdude> bye
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#987 [12:01] <almostroot> Xxmas0n13xX: Put the content of the error on pastebin and share the link in this channel.
#988 [12:01] <almostroot> ??> Xxmas0n13xX pastebin
#989 [12:01] <VoxelHead> Xxmas0n13xX: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#990 [12:01] <Xxmas0n13xX> ok hold on
#991 [12:02] <ryanxpei> My question would be, I just set up a server and installed all the plugins I want. Before I start letting people in, I'm trying to figure out how to protect my spawn area (certain radius) and set it up so that people can claim certain areas of land to build on and protect them.
#992 [12:02] <almostroot> ryanxpei: For bukkit support, try #bukkit
#993 [12:03] <ryanxpei> oh I didnt realize, I read server help that's why I asked. I'll check there.
#994 [12:08] <Xxmas0n13xX> ok hold onnn
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#997 [12:11] <Xxmas0n13xX> almostroot im back heres the link
#998 [12:11] <Xxmas0n13xX> http://pastebin.com/rbu50qTY
#999 [12:12] <almostroot> ??> Xxmas0n13xX win/dxdiag
#1000 [12:12] <VoxelHead> Xxmas0n13xX: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1001 [12:12] <VoxelHead> Xxmas0n13xX: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1002 [12:14] <Xxmas0n13xX> wat?! im confused
#1003 [12:14] <almostroot> Xxmas0n13xX: What are you confused about?
#1004 [12:15] <Xxmas0n13xX> what voxel head said\
#1005 [12:15] <almostroot> Xxmas0n13xX: What, specifically, are you confused about?
#1006 [12:17] <Xxmas0n13xX> win/dxiag whats that
#1007 [12:17] <Xxmas0n13xX> ??
#1008 [12:18] <almostroot> Xxmas0n13xX: I gave VoxelHead a command, VoxelHead responded. Follow the instructions from VoxelHead.
#1009 [12:18] <Xxmas0n13xX> wats the win key?
#1010 [12:19] <almostroot> ??> Xxmas0n13xX win/key.image
#1011 [12:19] <almostroot> ??> Xxmas0n13xX win/key/image
#1012 [12:19] <VoxelHead> Xxmas0n13xX: (win/key/image) WARNING: May not appear exactly as shown. http://daily-grind.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Windows-Key-722215.jpg
#1013 [12:19] <Xxmas0n13xX> o ok
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#1015 [12:20] <grant37> hello, when I try to use the minecraft game, all I get is a blank screen. I am a premium account and don't understand why it is not working
#1016 [12:21] <almostroot> grant37: What version of JAva are you using? Any mods or high-res texture packs installed?
#1017 [12:21] <grant37> I recently updated Java, as I thought that might be problem. How do I tell you which version it is
#1018 [12:21] <almostroot> ??> grant37 java/version
#1019 [12:21] <VoxelHead> grant37: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1020 [12:21] <VoxelHead> grant37: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1021 [12:22] <grant37> I have version 6
#1022 [12:22] <almostroot> grant37: Which update?
#1023 [12:23] <grant37> 30
#1024 [12:23] <almostroot> grant37: Has it worked before?
#1025 [12:23] <Xxmas0n13xX> http://pastebin.com/EHyw0URz here it is
#1026 [12:24] <grant37> what is that? I just updated Java today cause I thought that might be problem with running minecraft, after update nothing changed in minecraft
#1027 [12:24] <almostroot> grant37: Has it worked before?
#1028 [12:25] <grant37> It being minecraft? If so, yes I used to play all the time and it stopped working about a week ago
#1029 [12:27] <Xxmas0n13xX> uhmm almostroot??
#1030 [12:28] <grant37> Sorry, I don't understand what do you mean by almostroot
#1031 [12:28] <Morrolan> That's a nickname of someone here, grant37. ;)
#1032 [12:28] <Xxmas0n13xX> im talking to him
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#1034 [12:30] <almostroot> grant37: Are you using Windows?
#1035 [12:30] <almostroot> Xxmas0n13xX: I'm looking to see if there is an update for your graphics card driver now.
#1036 [12:30] <Xxmas0n13xX> o ok
#1037 [12:30] <mib_qfmdh3> its still not working
#1038 [12:31] <mib_qfmdh3> hello...anybody
#1039 [12:32] <grant37> Not missing windows, all else works fine just when I log in and go to play it is blank
#1040 [12:32] <almostroot> grant37: IS the operating system that you are using Windows?
#1041 [12:32] <grant37> yes
#1042 [12:33] <almostroot> ??> grant37 win/reinst/bat
#1043 [12:33] <VoxelHead> grant37: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1044 [12:33] <VoxelHead> grant37: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#1045 [12:33] <hmw> I used my world shortly with bukkit and 3 plugins, then moved back to vanilla, because I suddenly couldn't eat anymore. Now I can't eat, although I redownloaded the vanilla server and replaced the world folder with a backup. What could be wrong?
#1046 [12:34] <grant37> Do I run it or save it?
#1047 [12:34] <almostroot> grant37: Either run it, or save it, then open it.
#1048 [12:36] <almostroot> Xxmas0n13xX: What model of Gateway computer do you have?
#1049 [12:37] <almostroot> mib_qfmdh3: You have the Dell Latitude D620, right?
#1050 [12:38] <grant37> When I saved it then ran it the file said " The system can not find the file specified" texture packs\NEWFOL~1\art\LK\Humans~1\mobs
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#1052 [12:38] <almostroot> grant37: Close Minecraft completely, and try running it again.
#1053 [12:38] <grant37> Do I have to close out of this question session as well?
#1054 [12:39] <almostroot> mib_qfmdh3: Try downloading this driver and seeing it it will work: http://downloads.dell.com/video/R153830.EXE If not, you need to manually install the updated driver from Intel.
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#1060 [12:57] <panitaliemom> Hello so When I launch Minecraft, it says Not downloaded... Any suggestions?
#1061 [12:58] <almostroot> panitaliemom: Allow it to download?
#1062 [12:58] <almostroot> panitaliemom: Have you paid for Minecraft?
#1063 [12:58] <panitaliemom> No I havent but usaully I can play offline
#1064 [12:59] <almostroot> panitaliemom: That is what is called "Stealing". Pay for the game. It's worth it.
#1065 [13:00] <panitaliemom> it was working before but after I looked at my .minecraft folder it was empty? And how is that stealing? I downloaded from the website and it worked?
#1066 [13:01] <almostroot> panitaliemom: You did not pay for it, knew you had not payed for it, yet still played it.
#1067 [13:01] <almostroot> panitaliemom: If you enjoy the game, pay for it. That simple.
#1068 [13:01] <ryanxpei> I paid for mine but the minecraft folder is still empty and I got no sounds so I have to play online XD
#1069 [13:01] <ryanxpei> on the website
#1070 [13:01] <susieq> hello, i was trying to start minecraft earlier but problems with video installer you were trying to help with different downloads, nothing was working, they werent for my computer, i tried again before and got same message, i copied and will post what it said
#1071 [13:02] <susieq> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 12/24/11 12:58 PM Minecraft: Minecraft 1.0.0 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java: 1.6.0_30,
#1072 [13:02] <almostroot> ??> susieq win/dxdiag
#1073 [13:02] <VoxelHead> susieq: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1074 [13:02] <VoxelHead> susieq: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1077 [13:04] <susieq> http://pastebin.com/8EhR35K5
#1078 [13:04] <almostroot> ??> susieq win/dxdiag
#1079 [13:04] <VoxelHead> susieq: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1080 [13:04] <VoxelHead> susieq: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1081 [13:04] <almostroot> susieq: Follow those instructions.
#1082 [13:04] <almostroot> susieq: Follow those instructions.
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#1084 [13:04] <wannabemac> Ahh. the spam is overwhelming.
#1085 [13:05] <Triggerdusk> what shoul the starting and ending ports be for a server?
#1086 [13:05] <susieq> http://pastebin.com/8EhR35K5
#1087 [13:05] <almostroot> susieq: That is not the report we need.
#1088 [13:05] <almostroot> Triggerdusk: Only port needed is 25565
#1089 [13:05] <susieq> thats what came up
#1090 [13:06] <almostroot> susieq: READ what VoxelHead said.
#1091 [13:06] <susieq> ah, hold on
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#1093 [13:08] <susieq> sorry, not computer savvy, just a mom trying to do this for her son
#1094 [13:08] <wannabemac> 'NO voice for you...
#1095 [13:08] <susieq> http://pastebin.com/Pwprr0Dq
#1096 [13:09] <almostroot> susieq: That is only a partial report. Save the report, open the saved document, copy the text, put it on pastebin and provide the link.
#1097 [13:09] <TheNytangel> almostroot :o
#1098 [13:10] <TheNytangel> You haven't been here in forever
#1099 [13:10] <almostroot> TheNytangel: Finals, finishing semester grades, then vacationing in the mountains.
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#1101 [13:10] <TheNytangel> And it was forever
#1102 [13:10] <almostroot> I know, right?
#1103 [13:11] <TheNytangel> I'm going to go finish cleaning toilet.. brb
#1104 [13:11] <susieq> http://pastebin.com/NzuTfuZx
#1105 [13:11] <susieq> please, hope thats right
#1106 [13:11] <almostroot> susieq: Were you here earlier? Or someone else with your computer?
#1107 [13:12] <susieq> no i was on in the morning but had to leave
#1108 [13:12] <almostroot> susieq: Try downloading this driver and seeing it it will work: http://downloads.dell.com/video/R153830.EXE If not, you need to manually install the updated driver from Intel.
#1109 [13:14] <TheNytangel> Now just to wipe of the counter and clean the mirror...
#1110 [13:14] <TheNytangel> Off*
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#1116 [13:22] <Keaft> Has anyone seen how minecraft classic is being messed up?
#1117 [13:23] <Grim_Reaper> o_O
#1118 [13:23] <almostroot> Keaft: ?
#1119 [13:23] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1120 [13:23] <Grim_Reaper> I thought classic was left alone to never change
#1121 [13:24] <Keaft> It's more of the classic server list.
#1122 [13:24] <Eddie> It's a classic joke
#1123 [13:24] <Grim_Reaper> lol
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#1125 [13:24] <Keaft> "joke" Not many of us are finding it funny
#1126 [13:24] <Grim_Reaper> Whats wrong exactly
#1127 [13:24] <Eddie> The Joker is
#1128 [13:24] <Keaft> I have it detailed in a forum
#1129 [13:24] <susiq> just did it, the driver downloaded but minecraft is still coming up video driver error
#1130 [13:24] <Keaft> too much to spill all over this
#1131 [13:25] <Grim_Reaper> Would you like to link me to the thread then?
#1132 [13:25] <Keaft> lemme get a tinyurl
#1133 [13:25] <TheNytangel> The "many of you not finding it funny" haven't paid for minecraft I bet
#1134 [13:25] <Keaft> http://tinyurl.com/6uazlwj
#1135 [13:25] <Keaft> uh no. I have a paid account.
#1136 [13:25] <almostroot> Keaft: The list looks fine to me,
#1137 [13:25] <TheNytangel> Then why are you playing classic?
#1138 [13:25] <Keaft> and I have had many people buy minecraft from going to my classic server.
#1139 [13:26] <Keaft> Because classic is fun, minimalistic, and doesn't take up as much resources.
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#1142 [13:26] <Grim_Reaper> Sounds like some really bored people
#1143 [13:26] * Grim_Reaper hugs Thayli
#1143 [13:26] <almostroot> No PDA.
#1144 [13:26] <Keaft> I don't say that I'm not playing SMP, I play both.
#1145 [13:27] <Keaft> But as a server administrator, this is causing me and my users and easily millions of other users problems connecting to classic.
#1146 [13:27] <Keaft> And those millions of other people don't even know what's going on....
#1147 [13:28] <almostroot> Keaft: This isn;t the bitching channel. Take it elsewhere.
#1148 [13:28] <Keaft> Thought this was the help channel, my bad guys.
#1149 [13:28] <almostroot> Help, not bitching.
#1150 [13:29] <Keaft> Forgive me. That's not how I meant it to be.
#1151 [13:30] <Keaft> Do you know how I might go about getting the best support from the community on fixing this problem?
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#1153 [13:32] <bertolo> !check jerville.servegame.com
#1154 [13:32] <bertolo> !check jerkville.servegame.com
#1155 [13:32] <bertolo> !check jerkville.servegame.com
#1156 [13:32] <bertolo> -.-
#1157 [13:33] <bertolo> !check jerkville.servegame.com
#1158 [13:33] <almostroot> I suggest being thankful for a free resource, and not complaining if something out of their control temporarily takes it down.
#1159 [13:34] <bertolo> talking to me?
#1160 [13:34] <almostroot> bertolo: No.
#1161 [13:34] <susiq> anything else i can do?
#1162 [13:34] <bertolo> lol
#1163 [13:34] <almostroot> susiq: Did that driver not install properly, or is Minecraft still not working?
#1164 [13:34] <susiq> driver installed correctlyl, minecraft still not working
#1165 [13:35] <almostroot> susiq: Is it the same error as before?
#1166 [13:35] <susiq> yes
#1167 [13:36] <almostroot> ??> susiq teamviewer
#1168 [13:36] <VoxelHead> susiq: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1169 [13:36] <VoxelHead> susiq: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1170 [13:38] <susiq> i installed teamviewer
#1171 [13:39] <almostroot> susiq: Run it, and provide me with with your ID and password via private message using this syntax: /msg almostroot INFO
#1172 [13:39] <susiq> how to i do that private? do i type it in first?
#1173 [13:40] <almostroot> susiq: Yes.
#1174 [13:40] <almostroot> susiq: replacing INFO with your ID and password.
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#1176 [13:41] <susiq> hhmm
#1177 [13:42] <wannabemac> Hello.
#1178 [13:42] <almostroot> susiq: Still waiting.
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#1180 [13:42] <sycokitty> hi
#1181 [13:42] <wannabemac> Its been almsot 15 minutes almost.
#1182 [13:42] <sycokitty> I really need help people on the forums are aobsolutly USELESS
#1183 [13:43] <wannabemac> What do you need?
#1184 [13:43] <sycokitty> absolutely*
#1185 [13:43] <almostroot> sycokitty: That is not very nice.
#1186 [13:43] <sycokitty> well I mean they all tell me java is the problem and I need to update java
#1187 [13:43] <sycokitty> and that's all they keep telling me
#1188 [13:43] <almostroot> sycokitty: What is your issue?
#1189 [13:43] <sycokitty> and I have
#1190 [13:44] <sycokitty> Minecraft is giving me an error with an ATi OpenGL error
#1191 [13:44] <sycokitty> I will paste it
#1192 [13:44] <almostroot> sycokitty: Put it on pastebin please.
#1193 [13:44] <almostroot> ??> sycokitty pastebin
#1194 [13:44] <sycokitty> ok
#1195 [13:44] <VoxelHead> sycokitty: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1197 [13:44] <susiq> its not putting the numbers in with your name
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#1199 [13:44] <bertoloZ> !check jerkville.servegame.com
#1200 [13:44] <susiq> sorry, im really no good at computers
#1201 [13:45] <sycokitty> http://pastebin.com/ewEYubF7
#1202 [13:45] <sycokitty> I have the newest ATi Driivers installed
#1203 [13:46] <almostroot> sycokitty: Did you get the drivers from AMD's website?
#1204 [13:46] <sycokitty> Yes. 11.12 newest ones
#1205 [13:46] <almostroot> ??> sycokitty win/dxdiag
#1206 [13:46] <VoxelHead> sycokitty: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1207 [13:46] <VoxelHead> sycokitty: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1208 [13:46] <sycokitty> ok one sec
#1209 [13:47] <almostroot> susiq: Just run Team viewer, it will have an ID and Password, provide me with those using /msg almostroot IDANDPASSWORDHERE
#1210 [13:47] <wannabemac> What is team viewer, might I ask?
#1211 [13:47] <almostroot> wannabemac: Google it.
#1212 [13:47] <zkxs> :tv
#1213 [13:47] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1214 [13:47] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1215 [13:47] <wannabemac> Lol.
#1216 [13:48] <sycokitty> http://pastebin.com/GtTZfQ4L'
#1217 [13:48] <sycokitty> there you go
#1218 [13:48] <sycokitty> oops
#1219 [13:48] <sycokitty> http://pastebin.com/GtTZfQ4L
#1220 [13:48] <sycokitty> there
#1221 [13:48] <wannabemac> I guess almostroot won't let me be lazy.
#1222 [13:49] <zkxs> :java
#1223 [13:49] <WugBot> java: Java sucks and is stupid.
#1224 [13:49] <wannabemac> LOL
#1225 [13:49] <susiq> i type it in but it just comes up almostroot with nothing after it, wth
#1226 [13:49] * wannabemac stabs zkxs
#1226 [13:50] <bertoloZ> "java: Java sucks and is stupid."
#1227 [13:50] <bertoloZ> one more reason for me to change planet
#1228 [13:50] <sycokitty> almostroot did u get the link?
#1229 [13:50] <almostroot> susiq: You type what in?
#1230 [13:50] <Eddie> We must get rid of the Java language!
#1231 [13:50] * wannabemac puts bertoloZ in the closet with WugBot, which was put in a few days ago.
#1231 [13:51] * zkxs slaps up wannabemac with a fresh ><(((°>
#1231 [13:51] <sycokitty> lol
#1232 [13:51] <wannabemac> I love my B key in minecraft.
#1233 [13:51] <wannabemac> It brings up a menu, I select a player, and it bans them.
#1234 [13:51] <sycokitty> i wish i could play minecraft :/
#1235 [13:52] <sycokitty> im supposed to be helping my friend with an adventure map wer emaking
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#1237 [13:52] <gunther> hey
#1238 [13:53] <gunther> i keep getting black screen of death
#1239 [13:53] <sycokitty> almostroot you there?
#1240 [13:53] <almostroot> sycokitty: Looks like you have a good driver. Has it ever run on that computer before?
#1241 [13:53] <sycokitty> yes multiple times
#1242 [13:53] <gunther> how u fix black screen of death?
#1243 [13:53] <sycokitty> MULTIPLE
#1244 [13:53] <gunther> no
#1245 [13:53] <sycokitty> brb moms calling me
#1246 [13:53] <almostroot> gunther: Did you install a mod or a high-res texture pack?
#1247 [13:53] <wannabemac> What are you talking about gunther?
#1248 [13:53] <gunther> no
#1249 [13:54] <zkxs> gunther: has minecraft ever worked before on this pc?
#1250 [13:54] <gunther> like when i download minecraft it gives me bsod so i play in browser but it says i need to download game
#1251 [13:54] <wannabemac> Gives you what?
#1252 [13:54] <gunther> black screen of death
#1253 [13:54] <zkxs> gunther: has minecraft ever worked before on your pc?
#1254 [13:55] <gunther> yes
#1255 [13:55] <almostroot> ??> gunther java/version
#1256 [13:55] <VoxelHead> gunther: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1257 [13:55] <VoxelHead> gunther: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1258 [13:55] <almostroot> gunther: What version of Java?
#1259 [13:55] <gunther> ok thx
#1260 [13:55] <gunther> idk. its probly old
#1261 [13:56] <susiq> did you get it?
#1262 [13:56] <almostroot> susiq: No.
#1263 [13:56] <almostroot> susiq: If I wanted to message you, I would type this: /msg susiq ID PASSWORD
#1264 [13:57] <susiq> jesus, i type the numbers in too but only your name comes up, i swear, lol
#1265 [13:57] <almostroot> susiq: Does it open my a tab/window with my name?
#1266 [13:57] <almostroot> Wug: How was hyperspace?
#1267 [13:58] <sycokitty> ok im so sorry, but im back
#1268 [13:58] <Wug> almostroot: trippy
#1269 [13:59] <sycokitty> but almostroot yes i had windows 7 installed previously, and it ran fine. It has always ran fine on XP, but for someone reason something is messed up.
#1270 [13:59] <sycokitty> I thought it had something to do with the GART drivers for my motherboard
#1271 [13:59] <sycokitty> but I installed those and it didn't help at all
#1272 [13:59] <almostroot> sycokitty: It ran on Windows 7 on that computer? Or a different one?
#1273 [13:59] <sycokitty> yes same computer
#1274 [14:00] <sycokitty> i downgraded from 7
#1275 [14:00] <sycokitty> because it crashed
#1276 [14:00] <susiq> no, just shows up on the message board with system in red on left side and your name on right side
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#1278 [14:01] <almostroot> susiq: Try one more time.
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#1280 [14:03] <susiq> now nothing, not even on the message board
#1281 [14:03] <sycokitty> what broswer are you using?
#1282 [14:03] <sycokitty> browser*
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#1284 [14:04] <susiq> /msg almostroot
#1285 [14:04] <almostroot> susiq: after my username, put the ID and password.
#1286 [14:05] <susiq> with a space after your name?
#1287 [14:05] <almostroot> susiq: Yes.
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#1289 [14:06] <susiq> nothing is coming up now
#1290 [14:06] <almostroot> susiq: I got it,
#1291 [14:06] <Thayli> Grim_Reaper o/
#1292 [14:06] <susiq> haha ok
#1293 [14:06] <Thayli> sorry having DCs the whole evening atm
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#1295 [14:07] <sycokitty> I'm going to be on facebook in another tab so if I don't answer right away sorry.
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#1297 [14:09] <susiq> do i need the partner id?
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#1299 [14:10] <almostroot> susiq: Did you download the beta version of TeamViewer?
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#1301 [14:11] <susiq> how would i know? just hit the download button
#1302 [14:12] <sycokitty> susiq here: http://www.teamviewer.com/download/TeamViewer_Setup_en.exe <---- Standered Version
#1303 [14:12] <almostroot> I realized the issue. Give me a second and I will connect.
#1304 [14:13] <almostroot> TeamViewer has released version 7 for Windows, but is still in beta for Mac.
#1305 [14:14] <Wug> and doesnt exist at all for linux
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#1307 [14:14] <sycokitty> its on iPod/iPhone too :D
#1308 [14:14] <Wug> we need to find a direct link to version 6
#1309 [14:14] <PicklishDoorknob> cannot run minecraft, nothing happens
#1310 [14:14] <ryanxpei> hm my keybinds and hand with tool disapeared ;[
#1311 [14:15] <ryanxpei> ah found it
#1312 [14:15] <PicklishDoorknob> when i try to run minecraft, it shows a loading sign and then nothing happens. i tried running it at www.minecraft.net too. help?
#1313 [14:15] <sycokitty> http://download.cnet.com/TeamViewer-for-Linux/3000-7240_4-75183926.html?tag=mncol;6 <--- Linux
#1314 [14:15] <ryanxpei> are texture packs clientside only?
#1315 [14:15] <sycokitty> yea
#1316 [14:15] <sycokitty> Texture Pack folder
#1317 [14:16] <PicklishDoorknob> help
#1318 [14:16] <ryanxpei> aw I wanted to build a building that people could see on my server
#1319 [14:16] <sycokitty> so if a host of a server has a texture pack, only he will see it
#1320 [14:16] <sycokitty> its not possible
#1321 [14:16] <ryanxpei> but it would probably show up as a mud hut haha
#1322 [14:16] <PicklishDoorknob> help!
#1323 [14:16] <sycokitty> Picklish calm down
#1324 [14:16] <PicklishDoorknob> ok
#1325 [14:16] <sycokitty> there are multiple people needing help
#1326 [14:16] <sycokitty> like me
#1327 [14:16] <PicklishDoorknob> sorry :O
#1328 [14:16] <sycokitty> and a couple other guys/girls
#1329 [14:16] <PicklishDoorknob> ok then
#1330 [14:17] <sycokitty> the guy who was helping me is in TeamViewer with someone
#1331 [14:18] <wannabemac> What do you guys need?
#1332 [14:18] <PicklishDoorknob> so when i try to run minecraft, it shows a loading sign and then nothing happens. i tried running it at www.minecraft.net too.
#1333 [14:18] <wannabemac> Are you on windows or OS X?
#1334 [14:18] <PicklishDoorknob> mindows 7
#1335 [14:18] <sycokitty> do you have Java installed?
#1336 [14:18] <wannabemac> ??> PicklishDoorknow win/dxdiag
#1337 [14:18] <VoxelHead> PicklishDoorknow: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1338 [14:18] <PicklishDoorknob> ya
#1339 [14:18] <VoxelHead> PicklishDoorknow: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1340 [14:19] <PicklishDoorknob> wait what?
#1341 [14:19] <PicklishDoorknob> dxdiag?
#1342 [14:19] <wannabemac> Follow those instructions.
#1343 [14:19] <PicklishDoorknob> ok
#1344 [14:19] <sycokitty> mine just crashes after hitting login :/
#1345 [14:19] <sycokitty> it's annoying
#1346 [14:20] <PicklishDoorknob> "Do you want to check if your drivers are digitally signed?
#1347 [14:20] <PicklishDoorknob> yes/no?
#1348 [14:20] <wannabemac> ?
#1349 [14:20] <wannabemac> Just say no.
#1350 [14:20] <PicklishDoorknob> it said that
#1351 [14:20] <PicklishDoorknob> ok
#1352 [14:21] <PicklishDoorknob> ok almost done
#1353 [14:21] * almostroot hates using Teamviewer to do things for people.
#1353 [14:21] <wannabemac> xD
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#1355 [14:22] <sycokitty> lol
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#1357 [14:22] <sycokitty> I don't like teamviewer because I had someone who uploaded a virus to me once using it
#1358 [14:22] <Wug> almostroot: I very much prefer it over painstakingly and slowly doing it over the text interface of IRC that they dont even know how to use
#1359 [14:22] <sycokitty> I find it hard to trust internet people now :/
#1360 [14:22] <Wug> sycokitty: if anyone does that here tell us and we'll ban them forever
#1361 [14:22] <PicklishDoorknob> it's long but http://pastebin.com/t2XBiYp0
#1362 [14:23] <sycokitty> Lol ok. It wasn't here it was something for minecraft when I first got it
#1363 [14:23] <sycokitty> some guy put ardamax keylogger on my computer
#1364 [14:23] <almostroot> I would rather them just figure it out on their own.
#1365 [14:23] <Wug> almostroot: ideally
#1366 [14:23] <PicklishDoorknob> voxelhead?
#1367 [14:23] <wannabemac> That seems fine PicklishDoorKnon.
#1368 [14:23] <sycokitty> so almost back to what you were asking me
#1369 [14:23] <PicklishDoorknob> ok
#1370 [14:23] <wannabemac> ?? bot
#1371 [14:23] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#1372 [14:23] <Wug> but I'd also not like to waste 45 minutes trying to help them when I can do it myself in 3
#1373 [14:24] <sycokitty> window 7 was on this computer but now im running xp non dual boot
#1374 [14:24] <sycokitty> ??
#1375 [14:24] <PicklishDoorknob> it still doesn't work
#1376 [14:24] <wannabemac> ??> PicklishDoorKnow Java/Version
#1377 [14:24] <PicklishDoorknob> when i try to run minecraft, it shows a loading sign and then nothing happens. i tried running it at www.minecraft.net too.
#1378 [14:24] <PicklishDoorknob> oh
#1379 [14:24] <Wug> PicklishDoorknob: do you have a ! in your windows username
#1380 [14:24] <PicklishDoorknob> um... the latest version
#1381 [14:24] <PicklishDoorknob> wug: no
#1382 [14:24] <Wug> and dont tell us "the latest version"
#1383 [14:25] <PicklishDoorknob> i don't know
#1384 [14:25] <Wug> we want to know what specific version
#1385 [14:25] <PicklishDoorknob> let me check then
#1386 [14:25] <sycokitty> im on like 6u 30e or whatever
#1387 [14:25] <sycokitty> 6.0.300.12
#1388 [14:25] <PicklishDoorknob> version 6 update 30
#1389 [14:26] <PicklishDoorknob> i'll try reinstalling
#1390 [14:26] <sycokitty> almost you finished with teamviewer?
#1391 [14:26] <Wug> PicklishDoorknob: if you have any old versions uninstall them
#1392 [14:27] <PicklishDoorknob> okay need to restart please hold
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#1394 [14:28] <susiq> okay, says the same thing that it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#1395 [14:28] <susiq> should i just have them refund my money?
#1396 [14:28] <PicklishDoorknob> reinstallation of java failed
#1397 [14:28] <PicklishDoorknob> tons of error messages popped up
#1398 [14:28] <sycokitty> they won't refund you :/
#1399 [14:28] <almostroot> susiq: No refunds.
#1400 [14:28] <Wug> PicklishDoorknob: uhh
#1401 [14:28] <Wug> thats bad
#1402 [14:29] <susiq> so they stole my money for something that doesnt work?
#1403 [14:29] <Wug> susiq: update your video cards
#1404 [14:29] <Wug> drivers*
#1405 [14:29] <wannabemac> They did not steal your money.
#1406 [14:29] <sycokitty> it works fine.. lol they didn't steal your money
#1407 [14:29] <TheNytangel> susiq: it works
#1408 [14:29] <susiq> gee, thats wug
#1409 [14:29] <Wug> welcome
#1410 [14:29] <susiq> like i didnt try that
#1411 [14:29] <almostroot> Wug: I just manually updated them.
#1412 [14:29] <sycokitty> either your computer can't run it or something with your video card is loony
#1413 [14:29] <almostroot> ??> susiq attitude
#1414 [14:29] <Wug> susiq: well, your account doesnt expire or anything
#1415 [14:29] <VoxelHead> susiq: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#1416 [14:29] <VoxelHead> susiq: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#1417 [14:29] <Wug> so you can look forward to playing it when you upgrade
#1418 [14:29] <susiq> great for you wug except im not computer savvy
#1419 [14:30] <wannabemac> lol almostroot.
#1420 [14:30] <Wug> susiq: if almostroot tried and it didnt work then its probably not going to with your current computer
#1421 [14:30] <susiq> i know you guys dont, it says so at the top of the page
#1422 [14:30] <ryanxpei> woops turned my whole wall into lava
#1423 [14:30] <sycokitty> what video card do you have?
#1424 [14:30] <susiq> i was responding to wug
#1425 [14:30] <PicklishDoorknob> actually i got the same error messages as before, here they are
#1426 [14:30] <PicklishDoorknob> http://forum.codecall.net/java-help/42390-unsatisfiedlinkerror-2.html
#1427 [14:31] <susiq> no attitude here just to wug
#1428 [14:31] <Wug> PicklishDoorknob: I have to go but I can fix it
#1429 [14:31] <sycokitty> susiq what video card do you have installed?
#1430 [14:31] <PicklishDoorknob> ok
#1431 [14:31] <Wug> you hava a damaged installation of java
#1432 [14:31] <susiq> im thankful that almostroot was helping me
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#1434 [14:32] <PicklishDoorknob> so how do i fix it?
#1435 [14:32] <Wug> PicklishDoorknob: I'll be gone for an hour and a half. what time is it where you are
#1436 [14:32] <PicklishDoorknob> 1:30
#1437 [14:32] <PicklishDoorknob> PM
#1438 [14:32] <Wug> be back here at 3:00
#1439 [14:32] <PicklishDoorknob> ok
#1440 [14:32] <Wug> I'll be able to help you with it then
#1441 [14:32] <sycokitty> almost can you help me now?
#1442 [14:32] <sycokitty> almostroot
#1443 [14:32] <TheNytangel> Sleep mode.. activate!
#1444 [14:32] <Wug> cyall later
#1445 [14:32] <sycokitty> bye!
#1446 [14:32] <wannabemac> Bye Wug/
#1447 [14:33] <Wug> I'll be back helping around 3:00 and PicklishDoorknob gets dibs
#1448 [14:33] <PicklishDoorknob> mye wug
#1449 [14:33] <PicklishDoorknob> :) yay
#1450 [14:33] <sycokitty> almostroot?
#1451 [14:34] <sycokitty> he's probably still helping susqi
#1452 [14:34] <susiq> no, not right now
#1453 [14:34] <sycokitty> hmmmm. almostroot you there?
#1454 [14:35] <wannabemac> What do you need sycokitty?
#1455 [14:35] <sycokitty> my minecraft crashes after i hit loggin with the error
#1456 [14:35] <PicklishDoorknob> you're not an op wannabemac
#1457 [14:35] <wannabemac> Does not mean I am not allowed to help people PicklishDoorknob.
#1458 [14:35] <sycokitty> so that doesn't mean he cant help
#1459 [14:36] <PicklishDoorknob> ok i'm used to a different way then
#1460 [14:36] <wannabemac> Did you install any mods sycokitty?
#1461 [14:36] <sycokitty> no this is the first time i put minecraft on this computer since i reinstalled XP
#1462 [14:37] <sycokitty> # Problematic frame: # C [atioglxx.dll+0x807eb8]
#1463 [14:37] <PicklishDoorknob> oops
#1464 [14:37] <PicklishDoorknob> sorry technical difficulties
#1465 [14:37] <wannabemac> Do you get any files that start with hs_err_pid where the minecraft.exe file is?
#1466 [14:37] <sycokitty> yup
#1467 [14:37] <sycokitty> i have the pastebin somewhere
#1468 [14:37] <wannabemac> Could you copy what is in one of those into pastebin and put the link here?
#1469 [14:37] <sycokitty> http://pastebin.com/ewEYubF7
#1470 [14:37] <sycokitty> yup ^^^^
#1471 [14:38] <sycokitty> DXDIAG
#1472 [14:38] <sycokitty> http://pastebin.com/GtTZfQ4L
#1473 [14:39] <wannabemac> Perfect, just what I was going to ask for.
#1474 [14:39] <sycokitty> ;)
#1475 [14:40] <wannabemac> ??>sycokitty java/version
#1476 [14:40] <sycokitty> 6u30
#1477 [14:41] <sycokitty> Java 6 Update 30
#1478 [14:41] <wannabemac> When did you last update your video card?
#1479 [14:41] <sycokitty> for some reason it's minecraft not liking the OpenGL driver on my video card
#1480 [14:41] <sycokitty> today
#1481 [14:41] <sycokitty> to the newest version
#1482 [14:42] <wannabemac> You do not have to run it in OpenGL.
#1483 [14:42] <sycokitty> well I mean minecraft is outputting it's a problem with my ati opengl driver
#1484 [14:43] <wannabemac> Could you go to your options.txt in your .minecraft folder please?
#1485 [14:43] <sycokitty> i dont have an option.txt because I havent actually gotten to the main menu
#1486 [14:43] <wannabemac> Oh.
#1487 [14:44] <wannabemac> Ill need you to takl to almostroot when he is done, I am out of ideas.
#1488 [14:44] <wannabemac> talk*
#1489 [14:44] <sycokitty> ok :) thanks anyways
#1490 [14:45] <sycokitty> its not a big deal because my parents bought me new computer stuff which I'm installing tomorrow which means i will have to install windows again anyways XDDD
#1491 [14:45] <wannabemac> Why?
#1492 [14:45] <wannabemac> Oh.
#1493 [14:45] <sycokitty> because when you add new hardware windows detects that its a whole new computer
#1494 [14:45] <wannabemac> I know, I did not think it through at first.
#1495 [14:45] <sycokitty> lol
#1496 [14:46] <TheNoodle> ...WAT
#1497 [14:46] <TheNoodle> *wat
#1498 [14:46] * TheNoodle swaps out his graphics card and adds a network card
#1498 [14:46] <sycokitty> could it be a setting in my BIOS?
#1499 [14:47] <TheNoodle> Only some hardware :p
#1500 [14:47] <wannabemac> No, sycokitty.
#1501 [14:47] <sycokitty> oh ok.
#1502 [14:48] <sycokitty> whats another opengl game?
#1503 [14:48] <sycokitty> i can test it to see if it will run
#1504 [14:48] <wannabemac> I honestly dont know.
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#1508 [14:52] <sycokitty> ok well i just tryed to run http://sourceforge.net/projects/spaceinvadersgl/files/Space%20Invaders%20OpenGL/0.6.1c/SpaceInvadersOpenGL-0.6.1.zip/download and it crashed with saying something about my atiolgxx.dll
#1509 [14:53] <sycokitty> so its def my card
#1510 [14:53] <wannabemac> Okay.
#1511 [14:54] <wannabemac> Your card may not be able to run minecraft.
#1512 [14:54] <sycokitty> no i ran minecraft on win 7
#1513 [14:54] <sycokitty> and xp before
#1514 [14:54] <sycokitty> with the same card actually
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#1516 [14:55] <wannabemac> Hmm.
#1517 [14:56] <sycokitty> im thinking about emailing ati
#1518 [14:56] <wannabemac> SushiDude?
#1519 [14:56] <SushiDude> wannabemac, yes?
#1520 [14:56] <wannabemac> Could you help sycokitty.
#1521 [14:57] <sycokitty> hi
#1522 [14:57] <SushiDude> hmm
#1523 [14:57] <SushiDude> so your drivers are failing?
#1524 [14:58] <TheNoodle> Tried a clean install of said drivers?
#1525 [14:58] <SushiDude> sycokitty, I would say redownload them
#1526 [14:58] <sycokitty> yes. I used driver cleaner
#1527 [14:58] <sycokitty> wiped all the drivers.
#1528 [14:58] <SushiDude> hmm
#1529 [14:58] <sycokitty> reinstalled with new version
#1530 [15:00] <sycokitty> :/....
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#1532 [15:00] <SushiDude> opps
#1533 [15:00] <SushiDude> sycokitty, what model card is it?
#1534 [15:00] <sycokitty> lol
#1535 [15:00] <sycokitty> Radeon HD 3850 AGP 512Mb
#1536 [15:01] <SushiDude> and you are on Windows 7 now?
#1537 [15:01] <sycokitty> no
#1538 [15:01] <sycokitty> Windows XP
#1539 [15:01] <sycokitty> and I've ran it on both 7 and XP before
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#1541 [15:02] <sycokitty> My card was made by Sapphire Tech
#1542 [15:02] <sycokitty> maybe if i use thier drivers?
#1543 [15:02] <SushiDude> ya try theirs
#1544 [15:02] <sycokitty> Becuase I used AMD's driver, but Sapphire has a driver page too
#1545 [15:02] <sycokitty> mmk i have to go into safe mode because easy way to delte drivers
#1546 [15:03] <sycokitty> umm ill be back soon
#1547 [15:03] <SushiDude> okay
#1548 [15:03] <sycokitty> Thanks everyone :)
#1549 [15:03] <SushiDude> =)
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#1551 [15:07] <Romero> I have a question, and regardless of text based chat's limitations, I'd like for it to be known that I'm not trying to be belligerent or rude. But for those of us who are waiting on email confirmation for a new account so that we can buy MC, is there any assurance that MC prices will not have risen by the time we can buy it?
#1552 [15:07] <TheNoodle> None at all.,
#1553 [15:09] <Romero> So, just for clarification, there is no way to know that, by the time my email comes through, MC prices will not have risen, and further, that those of us who are waiting will not be paying more?
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#1556 [15:10] <mrtalal> helloo
#1557 [15:11] <TheNoodle> Yes Romero.
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#1559 [15:12] <Romero> Thank you for your time. I appreciate your help. And I hope for the sake of a lot of prospective customers that this doesn't happen.
#1560 [15:12] <Romero> Thank you for your time. I appreciate your help. And I hope for the sake of a lot of prospective customers that this doesn't happen.
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#1564 [15:26] <comediandisco> hi everyone
#1565 [15:26] <comediandisco> i have a Q about DEEP SPACE TURTLE CHASE which is a custom map
#1566 [15:27] <PicklishDoorknob> oops
#1567 [15:27] <comediandisco> why oops?
#1568 [15:27] <PicklishDoorknob> 2 aways
#1569 [15:27] <PicklishDoorknob> :P
#1570 [15:27] <PicklishDoorknob> noone else is here
#1571 [15:28] <comediandisco> do u know?
#1572 [15:28] <PicklishDoorknob> know what
#1573 [15:28] <comediandisco> its kinda long but this
#1574 [15:28] <comediandisco> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJLL-DNu3P4
#1575 [15:28] <comediandisco> oh shit sorry
#1576 [15:29] <comediandisco> my Q is
#1577 [15:29] <PicklishDoorknob> ?
#1578 [15:29] <comediandisco> do u know DEEP SPACE TURTLE CHASE
#1579 [15:29] <PicklishDoorknob> ummm... no
#1580 [15:29] <comediandisco> the map
#1581 [15:29] <SushiDude> yes
#1582 [15:29] <PicklishDoorknob> no
#1583 [15:29] <SushiDude> what about it?
#1584 [15:29] <PicklishDoorknob> o hai
#1585 [15:29] <comediandisco> have u played it on multiplayer
#1586 [15:30] <PicklishDoorknob> wait this is minecraftHELP right?
#1587 [15:30] <SushiDude> no I have not, last time I checked it was for 1.8.1
#1588 [15:30] <comediandisco> ah
#1589 [15:30] <comediandisco> my question was how to put it on my server cause the server they give is outdated
#1590 [15:31] <comediandisco> so i wanted to put it on my own server
#1591 [15:31] <comediandisco> but i dont know what things to put cause its sooooo huge and has so many mods and stuff
#1592 [15:31] <SushiDude> Do you have the 1.8.1 server jar?
#1593 [15:31] <SushiDude> oh
#1594 [15:31] <SushiDude> wait
#1595 [15:32] <comediandisco> ok
#1596 [15:32] <SushiDude> hmm
#1597 [15:32] <SushiDude> you might just have to wait for them to update it
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#1599 [15:42] <wannabemac> Hello.
#1600 [15:42] <wannabemac> Hello.
#1601 [15:42] <wannabemac> Oops/
#1602 [15:42] <PicklishDoorknob> hi
#1603 [15:42] <wannabemac> Hello
#1604 [15:42] <PicklishDoorknob> :)
#1605 [15:42] <lemon-rev> stop spamming the channel please
#1606 [15:42] <PicklishDoorknob> ok :|
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#1608 [15:43] <wannabemac> lemon-rev, it was a accidenty. xD
#1609 [15:43] <lemon-rev> hm, i dont think so,
#1610 [15:43] <lemon-rev> :P
#1611 [15:43] <wannabemac> I was not paying attention while typing.
#1612 [15:43] <lemon-rev> well now you are
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#1616 [15:52] <wannabemac> Wug is back...
#1617 [15:52] <wannabemac> We shall rejoice.
#1618 [15:52] <PicklishDoorknob> :D
#1619 [15:54] <PicklishDoorknob> um wug?
#1620 [15:54] <Wug> hello
#1621 [15:54] <Wug> lets begin shall we
#1622 [15:54] <Wug> you'll need teamviewer
#1623 [15:54] <Wug> or has someone else fixed it
#1624 [15:54] <PicklishDoorknob> what exactly is that
#1625 [15:54] <Wug> :tv6
#1626 [15:54] <WugBot> tv6: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://goo.gl/25DwC
#1627 [15:54] <WugBot> tv6: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1628 [15:54] <PicklishDoorknob> ok
#1629 [15:55] <PicklishDoorknob> awesome you have a bot :P
#1630 [15:55] <PicklishDoorknob> downloading now
#1631 [15:57] <PicklishDoorknob> "/msg" is not working
#1632 [15:57] <PicklishDoorknob> mibbit user: No such nickname online.
#1633 [15:57] <wannabemac> Message, Wug, not the bot.
#1634 [15:57] <PicklishDoorknob> i did
#1635 [15:57] <wannabemac> OH.
#1636 [15:57] <PicklishDoorknob> oh nvm it worked
#1637 [16:01] <wannabemac> ?
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#1640 [16:18] <Wug> ... oops
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#1642 [16:18] <Wug> :P oops
#1643 [16:18] <PicklishDoorknob> it worked
#1644 [16:18] <PicklishDoorknob> thanks
#1645 [16:18] <Wug> I didnt mean to close the session, just the window.
#1646 [16:18] <Wug> np.
#1647 [16:18] <PicklishDoorknob> k bye
#1648 [16:19] <Wug> \o
#1649 [16:20] <Yotam> hey can anyone help me?
#1650 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> With?
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#1652 [16:21] <wannabemac> Yes?
#1653 [16:22] <Roundaround> hi all, anyone here have any idea if it's possible to make a 0.5 tick redstone pulse limiter? or know of a different resource for me to check?
#1654 [16:24] <wannabemac> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_Circuits
#1655 [16:25] <Roundaround> yes, i've searched there, but the shortest it provides for is technically a 2-tick limiter. you can tweak one of the designs to get a 1 tick limiter, but i need any value less than that
#1656 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> I don't believe that's possible.
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#1658 [16:26] <Roundaround> alright. i'm just searching for the fastest i can push my circuit without breaking it, and a 0.5 tick limiter would have helped me make my 2-way piston elevator that much faster
#1659 [16:28] <wannabemac> With my piston elevator, I use a repeater clock.
#1660 [16:28] <zkxs> To optimize pistons, you probably want a piston based clock
#1661 [16:28] <wannabemac> That would burn out the torches.
#1662 [16:28] <zkxs> bah, torches
#1663 [16:28] <wannabemac> Fine fine, Ill give it a go
#1664 [16:29] <Roundaround> the problem with using a clock is that i need the most compact and simplest design possible, as i'm not the one that will be building it
#1665 [16:29] <zkxs> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/8/86/Piston_Clock.jpg
#1666 [16:30] <Morrolan> Roundaround: I wouldn't see how a timer which is faster than a gametick would work, to be honest.
#1667 [16:31] <Wug> Morrolan: I believe it is possible through some dark sorcery to make a 1-clock
#1668 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Sure, a 1 tick clock.. but a .5 limiter?
#1669 [16:31] <Wug> hooking them up to dispensers causes lulz
#1670 [16:31] <Morrolan> Wug: Yea, that I'm sure of. But a clock which changes faster than the game's ticks?
#1671 [16:31] <Wug> yeah, thats not possibl
#1672 [16:31] <Wug> e
#1673 [16:31] <Roundaround> well it is possible to make clocks with a period of 1 tick (0.5 on, 0.5 off), and possible to manipulate that to get 0.75 ticks each, which is the fastest pistons go
#1674 [16:32] <Roundaround> but it's a little bulky for my space constraints
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#1677 [16:32] <Morrolan> "with a period of 1 tick (0.5 on, 0.5 off)" that is... interesting. It actually changes its state from off to on to off during one tick?
#1678 [16:33] <Roundaround> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha5hp50ZfLY
#1679 [16:33] <Roundaround> yes
#1680 [16:33] <dylanbarberdude> Merry Christmas!
#1681 [16:33] <Roundaround> it's uses are...limited
#1682 [16:34] <Roundaround> but they're great for speeding circuits and making piston circuits more reliable (he shows at the end that the 1-clock can be run along pistons to ensure they get a block update every tick)
#1683 [16:34] <Morrolan> I won't even try to understand how this is done programmatically.
#1684 [16:35] <Roundaround> haha
#1685 [16:35] <Roundaround> i dont quite understand it either, but he does it
#1686 [16:35] <Morrolan> Well, the design of the clock I might be able to understand. But I'd like to see how this is handled in the code.
#1687 [16:35] <Morrolan> Rather, I would not like to see this.
#1688 [16:36] <Roundaround> well, ticks aren't actually given set timeslots in code
#1689 [16:36] <Roundaround> so you could theoretically have them as short as your computer can accurately handle
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#1691 [16:37] <Roundaround> the known tick of 0.1 seconds is just the amount of delay repeaters use
#1692 [16:37] <Morrolan> A tick is 1/20 of a second.
#1693 [16:37] <Roundaround> mm
#1694 [16:37] <Morrolan> And apart from that I always thought it to be the speed the game logic is processed.
#1695 [16:38] <Morrolan> Well, game logic as in redstone, water flow etc.
#1696 [16:38] <Wug> technically a 1-clock is never off
#1697 [16:38] <Roundaround> im not sure about 1/20. im pretty confident it's 1/10
#1698 [16:38] <Wug> its 1/20
#1699 [16:39] <Morrolan> ^
#1700 [16:40] <Wug> 20 minute day/night cycle, 24000 ticks per day, 60 seconds per minute, 24000(ticks/day)/20(minutes/day)/60(minutes/second) = 20(ticks/s)
#1701 [16:40] <Morrolan> http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Time_Update_.280x04.29
#1702 [16:40] <Morrolan> Ofcourse it could be that the ticks' sole purpose is to measure ingame time, in which case a 0
#1703 [16:41] <Morrolan> 0.5 tick clock would _theoretically_ be possible.
#1704 [16:41] <Morrolan> Asked the guys over at #mcdevs for now, maybe one of them will have an idea. :)
#1705 [16:42] <wannabemac> C ya later guys.
#1706 [16:42] <Morrolan> Cya
#1707 [16:42] <Roundaround> i think i might just go with a piston pulse limiter anyway, circling back to my original question
#1708 [16:42] <Roundaround> that way i dont need to worry about finding a redstone-based one with the right length
#1709 [16:43] <Roundaround> i can have it delay to the length of a piston retraction (about 0.75 ticks)
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#1711 [16:43] <Roundaround> and by delay i mean shorten
#1712 [16:43] <the7joker7> hello
#1713 [16:43] <Roundaround> hello
#1714 [16:43] <the7joker7> how's it going?
#1715 [16:44] <Roundaround> not too shabby, discussing the possible max speed of redstone circuit ticks :D
#1716 [16:44] <the7joker7> sweet
#1717 [16:44] <the7joker7> i have a simple question
#1718 [16:44] <the7joker7> about potions
#1719 [16:44] <Roundaround> mm i wont be able to help there, but im sure someone can
#1720 [16:44] <Roundaround> ask away
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#1722 [16:45] <the7joker7> i have potions of strength, potions of swiftness and potions of strength
#1723 [16:45] <the7joker7> and i need to decide
#1724 [16:45] <the7joker7> i can turn them into extended potions or the strength/swiftness/regen 2 potions
#1725 [16:45] <the7joker7> the extended ones last longer
#1726 [16:46] <the7joker7> but i think the level 2 potions are more powerful per second they're active (i think?)
#1727 [16:46] <the7joker7> and i'm not sure which is more useful
#1728 [16:47] <Roundaround> well, thats something that comes down to what you're using them for
#1729 [16:47] <the7joker7> first of all, is it accurate that level 2 potions are more powerful per second?
#1730 [16:48] <Wug> the7joker7: level 2 potions are more powerful, yes
#1731 [16:49] <the7joker7> thank you wug
#1732 [16:49] <Wug> since those are ones you're using for yourself, you would probably want the longer lasting ones
#1733 [16:49] <the7joker7> i have 3 extended of each
#1734 [16:49] <the7joker7> and 3 level 2s
#1735 [16:49] <the7joker7> so i have room for 3 more
#1736 [16:49] <the7joker7> and i'm trying to decide which is more useful to have
#1737 [16:49] <Wug> you should find potions of poison
#1738 [16:49] <Wug> a potion of poison 2 will bring you from full health to 1/2 heart
#1739 [16:49] <Wug> add gunpowder and throw
#1740 [16:49] <the7joker7> i already have those
#1741 [16:50] <the7joker7> today is potion day
#1742 [16:50] <the7joker7> i'm stocking all my potion chests
#1743 [16:50] <Wug> then I think you're set
#1744 [16:50] <the7joker7> and i need to decide which is more valuable
#1745 [16:50] <Wug> its unfortunate that they dont stack
#1746 [16:50] <the7joker7> regen 2 or regen extended
#1747 [16:50] <TrueWolves> Do diffrent levels of regen stack?
#1748 [16:50] <Wug> I'd just make like 20 brewing stands and leave them as ingredients
#1749 [16:50] <almostroot> They are all worth 87.5 minecraft dollars.
#1750 [16:50] <the7joker7> potions don't stack period
#1751 [16:50] <Wug> it would be kind of unfair if they did
#1752 [16:51] <almostroot> 64 stack of speed 2 potions means I could FLY across the world.
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#1754 [16:51] <almostroot> Have them create an auto consume method as well.
#1755 [16:51] <the7joker7> just for the record
#1756 [16:51] <the7joker7> i'm playing single player
#1757 [16:52] <the7joker7> lol
#1758 [16:52] <Morrolan> almostroot: That reminds me of one of the TES games. :D
#1759 [16:52] <the7joker7> i dunno, it's a hard call
#1760 [16:52] <the7joker7> it's not a big deal
#1761 [16:52] <the7joker7> level 2s or extended...
#1762 [16:52] <TrueWolves> 64 stack of speed 2 potions and some food
#1763 [16:53] <the7joker7> i'm leaning toward level 2s
#1764 [16:54] <the7joker7> to hell with it
#1765 [16:54] <the7joker7> level 2s
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#1767 [16:54] <Wug> but seriously, keep them as ingredients. you'll be able to store many times as much
#1768 [16:54] <the7joker7> i hae too many ingredients
#1769 [16:55] <the7joker7> i have 3 levels of chests in my castle, each level has like...30-35 chests
#1770 [16:55] <the7joker7> and i'm starting to get overflow into other chambers
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#1773 [16:57] <almostroot> Next, there needs to be Fixer to cure potion addictions in Minecraft.
#1774 [16:57] <almostroot> And pipboys. We neeeeeed pipboys.
#1775 [16:57] <the7joker7> i need to start playing minecraft multiplayer
#1776 [16:57] <the7joker7> you should see my singleplayer castle
#1777 [16:58] <Wug> you do, its fantastic
#1778 [16:58] <the7joker7> i have like 25 chests full of cobblestone
#1779 [16:58] <the7joker7> because i refuse to throw it away
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#1781 [16:59] <the7joker7> what i'd like to find
#1782 [16:59] <the7joker7> is a minecraft server with an economy system
#1783 [16:59] <the7joker7> you do things for people and they can pay you
#1784 [16:59] <the7joker7> like you could even have sort of a job
#1785 [16:59] <almostroot> the7joker7: They exist.
#1786 [16:59] <the7joker7> any recs?
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#1788 [17:01] <almostroot> the7joker7: Would have to find a server running economy. Not sure if it was updated for 1.0
#1789 [17:02] <almostroot> iConomy*
#1790 [17:02] <the7joker7> hmmm
#1791 [17:03] <the7joker7> maybe i could start my own server
#1792 [17:03] <almostroot> Or at least a good RPG server with economy plugins in place.
#1793 [17:03] <the7joker7> although i sort of have an RL job
#1794 [17:09] <dylanbarberdude> bye
#1795 [17:09] <dylanbarberdude> bye
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#1798 [17:10] <Jackson413> any ops on?
#1799 [17:10] <Jackson413> Kealper, you there mate?
#1800 [17:10] <Kealper> ish
#1801 [17:11] <almostroot> Jackson413: People other than ops can help as well.
#1802 [17:11] <Jackson413> so im wondering what version of linux would you recommend to run minecraft
#1803 [17:11] <Jackson413> not a server, the client
#1804 [17:11] <Kealper> uhh... have you used Linux before?
#1805 [17:11] <Jackson413> nope
#1806 [17:11] <Kealper> Ubuntu or Linux Mint
#1807 [17:12] <Jackson413> for a newer linux user, which one do you recommend?
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#1810 [17:12] <Morrolan> Ubuntu is most likely the most popular Linux distro for "newcomers"
#1811 [17:12] <Jackson413> ok
#1812 [17:12] <Kealper> Minecraft runs pretty much out-of-the-box on both of those listed, and they are quite easy to use... most of the time things just work and you don't even need to know what the word "terminal" means to use them
#1813 [17:12] <Jackson413> any idea how to set up a dual boot with linux and windows 7?
#1814 [17:13] <Morrolan> Save yourself a lot of hassle by putting the Linux installation on a second physical disk if you can.
#1815 [17:13] <Jackson413> i can
#1816 [17:13] <Jackson413> i figured i would :D
#1817 [17:14] <Jackson413> but do i need like software or something in order to do so?
#1818 [17:15] <Jackson413> where do i start
#1819 [17:16] <Kealper> uhh... since both are essentially the same thing under-the-hood, i'd suggest going to google images and look at what one you think looks the best to you, and going on that
#1820 [17:16] <Jackson413> im afraid to go on google and look up an article, if someone could find an article that they think would be really good for someone that is new to this
#1821 [17:16] <Morrolan> When it comes to installing either of these distros then I'm sure there will be guides on their respective websites.
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#1823 [17:17] <Morrolan> What Kealper meant was simply look whether you prefer Ubuntu's or Mint's design.
#1824 [17:17] <Kealper> Jackson413: did you want to dual-boot or install it to a separate hdd?
#1825 [17:17] <Kealper> (either option is painfully easy with those two i listed)
#1826 [17:17] <almostroot> Was the MCH server ever created?
#1827 [17:18] <Jackson413> separate ssd
#1828 [17:18] <Kealper> almostroot: mc.minecraftirc.net
#1829 [17:18] <Jackson413> hdd i mean, (derp)
#1830 [17:18] * almostroot recommends CentOS for a server.
#1830 [17:18] <Morrolan> For someone new to LInux, almostroot. :P
#1831 [17:18] <Kealper> Jackson413: i was kind of hoping you'd say dual boot, since there is a windows installer for setting up a dual boot lol
#1832 [17:18] <Colbet> i can't play the classic version it keeps saying, fatal error occured(4): unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack. What do i do?
#1833 [17:19] <almostroot> Morrolan: Wussies.
#1834 [17:19] <Morrolan> almostroot: Heh, don't you call me a Wussie!
#1835 [17:19] <Jackson413> well, that would make the system slower, and i have an unused drive
#1836 [17:19] <Kealper> almostroot: also, he wants it for a client computer not a server
#1837 [17:19] <Jackson413> wouldnt it?
#1838 [17:20] <Kealper> Jackson413: not that i've noticed... i'm sure there is a performance hit but i doubt it's noticable unless you're trying to copy your entire hdd over to something ._.
#1839 [17:20] <Kealper> i have Mint dual-booted on my laptop that way and it seems to run fine
#1840 [17:20] <almostroot> Is the spawn for the server really supposed to be a block below the floor?
#1841 [17:20] <Jackson413> i kinda wanna like restart to switch os
#1842 [17:21] <Jackson413> only one running at the same time
#1843 [17:21] <Kealper> you have to restart for either option...
#1844 [17:21] <Jackson413> that is what dual booting is?
#1845 [17:21] * SushiDude knows a lot about Linux =P
#1845 [17:21] * almostroot teaches Linux.
#1845 [17:21] <Kealper> dual booting just means to run more than one OS per physical hdd
#1846 [17:21] * Jackson413 is a linux noob
#1846 [17:21] <SushiDude> almostroot, really? where do you teach it at?
#1847 [17:21] <almostroot> SushiDude: ... A college.
#1848 [17:21] <SushiDude> =P
#1849 [17:22] <Kealper> lol
#1850 [17:22] <SushiDude> almostroot, cool =)
#1851 [17:22] <Jackson413> well, what are my options, i wanna like not have them both running at the same time
#1852 [17:22] <Jackson413> but i wanna have one operating system per hdd
#1853 [17:22] <Jackson413> and switch them by restarting, which i really dont mind
#1854 [17:22] <almostroot> Jackson413: Dual-booting, installing Windows first on one drive, Linux second on the second drive.
#1855 [17:23] <almostroot> Jackson413: Theoretically, the Linux boot loader will detect your Windows install and create a menu entry for it before the actual operating system boots.
#1856 [17:23] <Jackson413> can you throw me an article or something that would explain it for a new user?
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#1858 [17:23] <SushiDude> there is not much more to it =\
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#1860 [17:23] <Jackson413> i mean i can go to the ubuntu website
#1861 [17:23] <Jackson413> and install it
#1862 [17:24] <Jackson413> i dont know what file
#1863 [17:24] <almostroot> Jackson413: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
#1864 [17:24] <almostroot> Jackson413: That article is a little overkill.
#1865 [17:25] <Jackson413> dont care about backing up, this windows version is new
#1866 [17:25] <SushiDude> Well just download 11.10 64-bit and tell it to dual boot
#1867 [17:26] <SushiDude> it does the work for you
#1868 [17:26] <almostroot> SushiDude: I believe Ubuntu recommends the 32-bit version. -_-
#1869 [17:26] <SushiDude> because it is more compatible
#1870 [17:26] <SushiDude> but 64-bit is so much better
#1871 [17:27] <SushiDude> more compatible with older hardware*
#1872 [17:27] <SushiDude> but if you hardware supports 64-bit you always want to use it
#1873 [17:27] <SushiDude> your*
#1874 [17:28] <almostroot> SushiDude: Depends on the application. Some applications do not have a stable 64-bit version out. *CoughFlashcough*
#1875 [17:28] <SushiDude> almostroot, no..
#1876 [17:28] <almostroot> Better to determine what you need and want.
#1877 [17:28] <SushiDude> almostroot, there has been stable 64-bit flash out for months
#1878 [17:28] <SushiDude> almostroot, http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/
#1879 [17:28] <almostroot> SushiDude: Find me a link.
#1880 [17:29] <Jackson413> i have a 64 bit install of windows...
#1881 [17:29] <SushiDude> almostroot, Linux 64-bit, right there
#1882 [17:29] <SushiDude> Jackson413, then use 64-bit Ubuntu
#1883 [17:29] <Jackson413> kk
#1884 [17:30] <almostroot> Hmm, never realized Flash 11 was released as stable.
#1885 [17:30] * almostroot uses HTML5 for pretty much everything.
#1885 [17:31] <SushiDude> Well it has been out for a long time
#1886 [17:31] <SushiDude> =\
#1887 [17:31] <almostroot> SushiDude: Two months...
#1888 [17:31] <SushiDude> HTML5 is super nice, but there is still a ton of things that don't support it
#1889 [17:31] <SushiDude> 2 months is a long time =P
#1890 [17:32] <almostroot> SushiDude: I'm a CentOS/RHEL user. Two years is a short release cycle.
#1891 [17:32] <SushiDude> I am a Fedora user
#1892 [17:32] <SushiDude> =\
#1893 [17:32] <almostroot> Do you get andy when there hash;t been a new major release every six months?
#1894 [17:32] <almostroot> antsy*
#1895 [17:33] <Morrolan> Heads down, guys, religous war coming up.
#1896 [17:33] <SushiDude> lol
#1897 [17:33] <SushiDude> Morrolan, to each is his own =P
#1898 [17:33] <Morrolan> D:
#1899 [17:34] <Morrolan> But this is now how your average discussion is going! How dare you not fit in with the rest of the Internet?
#1900 [17:34] <SushiDude> lol
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#1902 [17:34] <almostroot> Nothing like a test deployment of Fedora on 22 workstations that result in GNOME3 crashing on initial boot.
#1903 [17:34] <SushiDude> trololo
#1904 [17:34] <Morrolan> See? That guy knows how it's done.
#1905 [17:34] <Morrolan> *ahem* I'm gonna stop now. :)
#1906 [17:35] <SushiDude> I have been using GNOME-Shell since the alpha builds =\
#1907 [17:35] * almostroot runs Fedora/Win7 dual boot on his primary workstation. Virtualizes everything else.
#1907 [17:35] <almostroot> It's also a dual-Xeon, 64GB memory, 4x SAS 15k RPM drive monstrosity.
#1908 [17:36] <Morrolan> Now what do you use that PC for?
#1909 [17:36] <SushiDude> almostroot, what are you doing on that?
#1910 [17:37] <almostroot> Besides running Skyrim on ultra with full 3D, virtualizing entire networks of workstations and servers.
#1911 [17:37] <SushiDude> lol
#1912 [17:37] <the7joker7> my potion shelves are now completely stocked
#1913 [17:38] <almostroot> Also, I can run Minecraft without lag.
#1914 [17:38] <Morrolan> Now that is worth buying such a machine.
#1915 [17:38] <SushiDude> Minecraft with out lag.. I hate you =P
#1916 [17:38] <Morrolan> However what I wanted to know about was this " virtualizing entire networks of workstations and servers." ;)
#1917 [17:39] <Morrolan> I mean, buying such a PC just to play Skyrim on ultra with full 3D, meh, wouldn't be worth the money.
#1918 [17:39] <Morrolan> wouldn't be worth it for/to me.
#1919 [17:39] <Morrolan> (whatever pronoun has to be there)
#1920 [17:39] <almostroot> Morrolan: I've virtualized an entire chuck of my physical network to test advanced routing techniques and compute cluster deployment.
#1921 [17:39] <Morrolan> mhm
#1922 [17:40] <SushiDude> and you also play video games on it =P
#1923 [17:41] <almostroot> Two quad core processors with hyper threading enabled and over provisioning, I've cranked out a 32-node cluster deployment before.
#1924 [17:42] <SushiDude> and this is your personal or work computer?
#1925 [17:42] <almostroot> It was also my test machine when demoing OpenFlow. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenFlow)
#1926 [17:42] <almostroot> SushiDude: Yes.
#1927 [17:42] <SushiDude> hmm
#1928 [17:43] <almostroot> SushiDude: Work computer with no inventory tag.
#1929 [17:44] <SushiDude> and are you the only person who uses this computer?
#1930 [17:44] <SushiDude> or is it shared?
#1931 [17:44] <almostroot> SushiDude: Yes. I have a few baby ones running other tasks. My primary public server is a 32-GB version running ESXi.
#1932 [17:45] <almostroot> Looks like other people are using almostroot as a handle nowadays.
#1933 [17:46] <mostlyroot> =P
#1934 [17:46] <almostroot> Wug: http://pastebin.com/Dk60jAZa
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#1936 [17:46] <SushiDude> almostroot, lol
#1937 [17:47] <mib_mvh3cl> i can't play the classic version it keeps saying, fatal error occured(4): unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack. What do i do?
#1938 [17:47] <almostroot> mib_mvh3cl: Try temporarily disabling your anti-virus and see if it works.
#1939 [17:47] <mib_mvh3cl> ok
#1940 [17:51] <SushiDude> almostroot, what is the uptime on that computer?
#1941 [17:51] <almostroot> SushiDude: 16:51:33 up 73 days, 20:37, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
#1942 [17:51] <SushiDude> hmm
#1943 [17:52] <SushiDude> I like the load average =P
#1944 [17:52] <almostroot> SushiDude: Minecraft server: 16:52:32 up 63 days, 18:30, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
#1945 [17:52] <SushiDude> You host a minecraft server on it?
#1946 [17:53] <almostroot> SushiDude: On one of the baby ones running in a vm hosted by ESXi
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#1948 [17:53] <SushiDude> oh
#1949 [17:54] <almostroot> Single video card, 32GB of memory. 16 soft-provisioned to the VM with the actual Minecraft server assigned 8GB of RAM for the world and another 4 for the ramdisk that it runs in.
#1950 [17:55] <almostroot> The world never touches the hard drive except to sync every 15 minutes in case of a power failure.
#1951 [17:56] <SushiDude> lol
#1952 [17:56] <SushiDude> that is awesome
#1953 [17:58] <mib_mvh3cl> turning off the anti-virus did not work
#1954 [17:58] <almostroot> ??> mib_mvh3cl java/version
#1955 [17:58] <SushiDude> Why are you even playing on classic?
#1956 [17:58] <VoxelHead> mib_mvh3cl: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1957 [17:58] <VoxelHead> mib_mvh3cl: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1958 [17:58] <SushiDude> I mean, the current version is so much better
#1959 [17:59] <mib_mvh3cl> i have the updated version
#1960 [18:01] <SushiDude> Then why are you playing on classic?
#1961 [18:01] <mib_mvh3cl> i want to try before i buy
#1962 [18:01] <the7joker7> does the splash mundane potion do anything?
#1963 [18:02] <SushiDude> wait...
#1964 [18:02] <SushiDude> mib_mvh3cl, you just said you have the current version
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#1966 [18:03] <mib_mvh3cl> i meant i have the updated version of java
#1967 [18:03] <SushiDude> oh
#1968 [18:04] <SushiDude> but what version?
#1969 [18:04] <SushiDude> I mean
#1970 [18:04] <SushiDude> there is 1.6 and 1.7
#1971 [18:04] <SushiDude> both are updated
#1972 [18:04] <SushiDude> but 1 is ready
#1973 [18:06] <Colbet> it says i have version 6 update 30
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#1975 [18:07] <Guest53784> Hi is there a way that I can find the receipt for proof that I bought the game Minecraft
#1976 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Guest53784 - You would've been sent one when you purchased minecraft.
#1977 [18:08] <SushiDude> Colbet, do you need help with something?
#1978 [18:08] <Morrolan> If you paied via PayPal you can also look in your Payment history, Guest53784.
#1979 [18:08] <Guest53784> I know but if I deleted that one would there be another way to find it
#1980 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Check your bank/credit card?
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#1982 [18:09] <mib_mvh3cl> yeah i was mib_mvh3cl
#1983 [18:09] <Guest53784> I checked in my bank account and it says that I bought it and the day and how much I paid for it but I can't find the receipt
#1984 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Guest53784 - The receipt was what was emailed to you.
#1985 [18:10] <mib_fs0lli> i have the black screen now and my game won't even open, what do i do
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#1987 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> If you've deleted it, then there's no way of getting a copy, unless you can use the transaction history of your bank/credit card
#1988 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_fs0lli - Did you attempt to install a mod?
#1989 [18:10] <mib_fs0lli> yes
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#1991 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Then that's why. Launch minecraft using the downloadable client. Before logging in, go to the options button, and hit force update
#1992 [18:11] <Guest53784> Yea I deleted it and then got a copy saying that I bought it but where should I send it to prove I bought it
#1993 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Guest53784 - Prove to whom?
#1994 [18:11] <Guest53784> I don't know, the Mojang support
#1995 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Were you asked to give them a copy?
#1996 [18:13] <Guest53784> No they didn't ask for it but that is really the only way to get prove it.
#1997 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> I don't get it then. if you weren't asked for it, why do you have to send it to them?
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#1999 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> If you've purchased a minecraft account from minecraft.net, then Mojang already knows you paid for it.
#2000 [18:15] <Guest53784> Okay look, I lost the email of my transaction number so I looked in my bank's history and that didn't show what the transaction number was either so I thought if I took a screenshot and emailed that to the support, it would take place of the transaction number
#2001 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> It would have to do then.
#2002 [18:16] <Wug> lol almostroot
#2003 [18:16] <Guest53784> I might of forgot to mention that my account was hacked thats why I need it
#2004 [18:17] <SushiDude> Guest53784, change your password
#2005 [18:17] <SushiDude> That is all you can do
#2006 [18:17] <Guest53784> There's no other way?
#2007 [18:17] <SushiDude> ..
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#2009 [18:17] <SushiDude> What else would there be?
#2010 [18:17] <SushiDude> also
#2011 [18:18] <AwesomezGuy> Guest53784: you sound suspiciously like someone who's trying to steal an account
#2012 [18:18] <Guest53784> Idk that's why I came here
#2013 [18:18] <Morrolan> Guest53784: Any reason you can't simply use the recover my password option?
#2014 [18:18] <SushiDude> it is not mojangs fault that your account was cracked
#2015 [18:18] <Morrolan> Unless your mail account got hacked as well, ofcourse.
#2016 [18:18] <SushiDude> it is your fault
#2017 [18:18] <AwesomezGuy> Morrolan: lol
#2018 [18:18] <Morrolan> SushiDude: It's not Mojang's fault, doesn't mean we won't help him though...
#2019 [18:18] <SushiDude> =/
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#2021 [18:18] <SushiDude> You hit reset password
#2022 [18:18] <SushiDude> change it
#2023 [18:19] <SushiDude> and you move on
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#2025 [18:19] <AwesomezGuy> SushiDude is correct
#2026 [18:19] <AwesomezGuy> i've reset my password 5 times
#2027 [18:19] <AwesomezGuy> i'm quite forgetful :/
#2028 [18:19] <SushiDude> lol
#2029 [18:19] <kermit> Cam
#2030 [18:19] <SushiDude> Morrolan, Well there is not much more to it
#2031 [18:20] <kermit> Can't get it to work on my kids computer. What are the system requirements?
#2032 [18:20] <AwesomezGuy> ...
#2033 [18:20] <SushiDude> for minecraft?
#2034 [18:20] <Scott> kermit: They are rather high.
#2035 [18:20] <AwesomezGuy> kermit: A computer? xD
#2036 [18:20] <Guest53784> I know I have done that too but Mojang wont send me the email to recover it.
#2037 [18:20] <Scott> Are you using Windows?
#2038 [18:20] <SushiDude> Scott, they are very high =\
#2039 [18:20] <AwesomezGuy> kermit: You'll probably need about a gig of RAM and some sort of 128mb gfx card
#2040 [18:20] <SushiDude> Guest53784, http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#2041 [18:20] <kermit> Yes. I tried updating a video card and tried another monitor. Might have to get a new computer and want the specs to see what I might need to get.
#2042 [18:20] <Morrolan> Guest53784: Did you happen to sign up for Cobalt with your existing account?
#2043 [18:21] <Scott> Okay kermit. Do this:
#2044 [18:21] <Scott> ??> kermit win/dxdiag
#2045 [18:21] <VoxelHead> kermit: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2046 [18:21] <VoxelHead> kermit: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2047 [18:21] <Guest53784> Morrolan, I have done that and I did again just now but it doesnt send me the email.
#2048 [18:22] <Morrolan> Guest53784: You signed up for Cobalt? THen you'll have to reset your password here: https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#2049 [18:22] <kermit> Not that computer savvy but will try it. Thanks.
#2050 [18:22] <SushiDude> Morrolan, you can sign up for Cobalt?
#2051 [18:22] <Guest53784> No I havent signed up for them.
#2052 [18:22] <Morrolan> SushiDude: You can even buy it.
#2053 [18:23] <SushiDude> Morrolan, is it in Java?
#2054 [18:23] <Morrolan> Guest53784: Then that shouldn't be the issue. Are you 100% sure that you are checking the correct address?
#2055 [18:23] <Morrolan> SushiDude: I don't think so.
#2056 [18:23] <AwesomezGuy> Guest53784: Check your Spam folder
#2057 [18:23] <AwesomezGuy> Just in case
#2058 [18:23] <SushiDude> Morrolan, well, does it run on GNU/Linux without WINE or not?
#2059 [18:23] <Strychnine> I just set up a new permissions mod for my server. I am looking for someone to help me test it out.
#2060 [18:23] <Morrolan> SushiDude: It's one of the C-languages from what I know, and at the moment there's a Windows versoin only.
#2061 [18:24] <Morrolan> version*
#2062 [18:24] <Guest53784> Yes because there is one page that Minecraft has that tells you if you have any accounts hooked up to an email, I give you the link
#2063 [18:24] <SushiDude> so not even mac support
#2064 [18:24] <SushiDude> great -_-
#2065 [18:24] <Guest53784> http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#2066 [18:24] <Guest53784> That's how I know I am using the right email
#2067 [18:24] <Morrolan> Guest53784: Ok, then this shouldn't be the issue. In this case I'm somewhat out of ideas, to be honest.
#2068 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Email provider for mojang is overloaded
#2069 [18:25] <Morrolan> Oh, that would explain it I guess.
#2070 [18:25] <Guest53784> Haha yea, that's why I came here :/
#2071 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Has been for a few days now
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#2073 [18:25] <SushiDude> GreyVulpine, a few days
#2074 [18:25] <SushiDude> that is crazy
#2075 [18:25] <Morrolan> Mind putting it into the topic, Grey?
#2076 [18:25] <SushiDude> they must be dealing with a LOT of emails
#2077 [18:27] <SushiDude> I don't understand why people come in here to get help about there cracked account =\
#2078 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/xlson/status/150166393617268736
#2079 [18:28] <Morrolan> SushiDude: If their mail account got hacked as well they need to know what to do.
#2080 [18:29] <Morrolan> Some might not even know about the "reset your password option" or whatever.
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#2082 [18:29] <SushiDude> If there mail account got crack they need to get better security on there computer
#2083 [18:29] <SushiDude> their*
#2084 [18:29] <Morrolan> No doubt about this. But _they are here_.
#2085 [18:29] <Morrolan> Meaning, while they're here, we can help them.
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#2087 [18:30] <ThatHype> anyone here?
#2088 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#2089 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Just us undead
#2090 [18:31] <SushiDude> no we are gone
#2091 [18:31] <SushiDude> =P
#2092 [18:31] <Boreeas> ThatHype: Nope, all celebrating christmas
#2093 [18:31] <Morrolan> Yes I am.
#2094 [18:31] <SushiDude> trololo
#2095 [18:31] <Morrolan> errr
#2096 [18:31] <kermit> did all that but don't know what the IRC channel is??
#2097 [18:31] <Morrolan> Nope, not here either
#2098 [18:31] <Morrolan> THis here is the IRC channel, kermit.
#2099 [18:31] <Boreeas> ThatHype: The members are currently unavaillable. Please try again at a later point in time
#2100 [18:31] <SushiDude> lol
#2101 [18:31] <ThatHype> ouch :(
#2102 [18:31] <kermit> So how do I get minecraft to work?
#2103 [18:32] <SushiDude> ThatHype, protip: we are joking
#2104 [18:32] <Morrolan> You can leave a message here though, ThatHype, and we'll come back to you after the beep. ;)
#2105 [18:32] <Boreeas> SushiDude: Shh!
#2106 [18:32] <SushiDude> lol
#2107 [18:32] <SushiDude> kermit, what is your issue?
#2108 [18:33] <ThatHype> Ok well I was gifted minecraft last year for christmas and decided to play it again after a long while but it says that I am not premium anymore and I cant login to my account even though I changed my password
#2109 [18:33] <kermit> Can't run minecraft on my kids computers. The video card is bad. Put a new one in and still doesn't work. Swapped out the monitor and still doesn't work.
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#2111 [18:34] <Jackson413> oh god he's back
#2112 [18:34] <Jackson413> another question guys
#2113 [18:34] <Jackson413> the article you guys gave me only explains how to do this on a single disk
#2114 [18:35] <SushiDude> Just tell it to install on the second disk
#2115 [18:35] <Jackson413> do i need to partition it? i can access it from windows already, not sure it that is good or not
#2116 [18:35] <SushiDude> I don't know how you go about doing it on Ubuntu, I use Fedora
#2117 [18:35] <Jackson413> oh well, time to wing it
#2118 [18:36] <SushiDude> anaconda makes multi-disk things really easy to do
#2119 [18:36] <SushiDude> but I don't think Ubuntu uses anaconda
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#2121 [18:37] <SushiDude> oh wait
#2122 [18:37] <SushiDude> according to this list
#2123 [18:37] <SushiDude> it does not
#2124 [18:37] <Jackson413> i think i got it maybe
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#2129 [18:45] <Jackson413> i need additional advice about non-linux things
#2130 [18:45] <Jackson413> anyone own a laptop?
#2131 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Many of us do.
#2132 [18:49] <SushiDude> yes
#2133 [18:49] <SushiDude> I am on one right now
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#2135 [18:51] <ThatHype> is there any way that I could have been dropped from premium
#2136 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Only if your bank did a chargeback on the payment
#2137 [18:52] <ThatHype> i got it gifted last year and was playing for the whole time up until about 3 months ago
#2138 [18:52] <ThatHype> and now it says that I am not premium
#2139 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> We also frequently see people forgetting which user account they bought minecraft under.
#2140 [18:53] <Jackson413> so i have this problem with my battery
#2141 [18:53] <SushiDude> Jackson413, okay..
#2142 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> Do a http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename on all emails you normally use. It'll send an email containing which MC accounts are tied to that email address, along with which ones are premium
#2143 [18:54] <ThatHype> i did that and on the email it has my username (Premium!)
#2144 [18:54] <Jackson413> my parents bought this computer from one of my dad's friends, and it was intended to be an early christmas present
#2145 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> What username would that be?
#2146 [18:54] <ThatHype> bgiori
#2147 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> !paid bgiori
#2148 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Apparently not.
#2149 [18:54] <SushiDude> Jackson413, but what is the issue with the battery?
#2150 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Did it list any other usernames?
#2151 [18:55] <Jackson413> it literally wont charge
#2152 [18:55] <ThatHype> what the hell
#2153 [18:55] <Jackson413> if i were to disconnect the power cord the computer would literally shut down
#2154 [18:55] <ThatHype> i paid and on the email it says premium
#2155 [18:55] <Jackson413> the thing is, the battery worked when my dad's friend showed us the computer
#2156 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> ThatHype - Are you sure it says premium next to "bgiori"
#2157 [18:56] <Jackson413> but keep in mind this computer is maybe 6 months old if that, the battery wont hold any charge whatsoever
#2158 [18:56] <SushiDude> Jackson413, =\
#2159 [18:56] <SushiDude> 6 months?
#2160 [18:56] <SushiDude> and it is derping
#2161 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> My battery's over a year old, and still holds a charge..
#2162 [18:56] <Jackson413> yeah, he bought it, and it sat of a shelf in the box
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#2164 [18:57] <SushiDude> I have a computer that is 5 years old
#2165 [18:57] <SushiDude> and the battery lasts over an hour and a half
#2166 [18:57] <Jackson413> what really puzzles me is the fact that a battery doesnt usually fail catastrophically
#2167 [18:57] <SushiDude> laptop*
#2168 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Did you check the obvious power settings of the OS?
#2169 [18:57] <Jackson413> its performance just decreases
#2170 [18:57] <Jackson413> there are no power settings that im aware of
#2171 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Also, does the battery itself have any diagnostic buttons on it?
#2172 [18:58] <ThatHype> im sure it says premium
#2173 [18:58] <Jackson413> i looked in the power management section of the control panel
#2174 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> ThatHype - Then send an email to help@mojang.com wtih that information
#2175 [18:58] <SushiDude> Jackson413, this is a battery failing catastrophically: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pizFsY0yjss
#2176 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> We can do nothing for account issues here.
#2177 [18:58] <Jackson413> well yeah, but this is like super fail
#2178 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Be aware that Mojang is off until after the holidays.
#2179 [18:59] <Jackson413> and no the battery doesnt have one of those handy buttons that tells you how much power it has on it
#2180 [18:59] <ThatHype> look
#2181 [18:59] <ThatHype> http://i.imgur.com/1mx4X.png
#2182 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> Lame battery..'
#2183 [18:59] <SushiDude> Jackson413, skip to 2 min into the video
#2184 [18:59] <Jackson413> yeah, but it worked before ( i think )
#2185 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> !paid thathype
#2186 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> You're using the wrong username.
#2187 [18:59] <ThatHype> hahahha
#2188 [18:59] <ThatHype> ok
#2189 [19:00] <Jackson413> SushiDude, think of how bad that would smell
#2190 [19:00] <Jackson413> anyway, has anyone heard of a battery failing like this
#2191 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Not really.
#2192 [19:01] <Jackson413> the computer says there is 0% available
#2193 [19:01] <SushiDude> The smell would be the last thing I would think about if my laptop exploded in my lap like that
#2194 [19:02] <Jackson413> im wondering if i should buy a new battery or not
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#2196 [19:02] <Jackson413> im kinda thinking that its not the battery itself, but there is something preventing it from charging
#2197 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Some batteries do have circuitry in there which prevents charging it it's too old.
#2198 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> My Dell battery had something like that.
#2199 [19:03] <Jackson413> if i would buy another battery and the same problem would be present, could i return the battery to say, newegg?
#2200 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the battery and the warranty
#2201 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> I bought a replacement one from amazon, and they had a 30 day warranty.
#2202 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Has been using that one in my laptop for a little over a year now with no problems.
#2203 [19:04] <Jackson413> would the warranty be valid if i returned it because it didnt fix the problem/
#2204 [19:04] * GreyVulpine nods
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#2205 [19:05] <superdude44> hello people..
#2206 [19:05] <Jackson413> ok installation complete brbr people
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#2208 [19:06] <superdude44> could someone help test my VPN server?
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#2210 [19:06] <combat_wombat27> I need a serv to connect to to verify I can connect to minecraft servs.
#2211 [19:06] <combat_wombat27> I can connect on my local network but I'm not so sure about outside it
#2212 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> combat_wombat27 - mc.minecraftirc.net
#2213 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> superdude44 - As long as it isn't hamachi.
#2214 [19:06] <superdude44> oh.. it is :(
#2215 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Most of us here will absolutely not touch hamachi. You're on your own with that.
#2216 [19:07] <SushiDude> Why does everyone use hamachi
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#2218 [19:07] <superdude44> well... I have to
#2219 [19:07] <SushiDude> hamachi is horrible
#2220 [19:07] <SushiDude> superdude44, why do you have to?
#2221 [19:08] <superdude44> because there is an ip conflict with the port and the ip that is blocking it isn't accessible
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#2223 [19:08] <SushiDude> ip conflict...
#2224 [19:08] <superdude44> yup!
#2225 [19:08] <superdude44> it's like two routers or something but it's hard to configure
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#2227 [19:09] <SushiDude> I am confused
#2228 [19:09] <superdude44> and i don't know the pass or username and i've been trying to port forward for a VERY long time.. like months
#2229 [19:09] <Guest45552> Hey, need some assistance with minecraft. Finished registering and download, but the program closes out when creating/entering a world
#2230 [19:09] <SushiDude> where is the server hosted
#2231 [19:09] <SushiDude> on your network?
#2232 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> SushiDude - Some ISPs, especially colleges, will have residential gateways that also do NAT before servicing the customer.
#2233 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> That gateway will not be accessible to the customer
#2234 [19:10] <combat_wombat27> GreyVulpine http://imgur.com/Q45Ud
#2235 [19:10] <SushiDude> Guest45552, what version of java do you have?
#2236 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> !check mc.minecraftirc.net
#2237 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> The server is up combat_wombat27.
#2238 [19:11] <Guest45552> Unfortunately, only 32-bit. Trying to set it up on my parent's "dinosaur" for my bro.
#2239 [19:11] <combat_wombat27> any ideas GreyVulpine? I mean I have a solid net connection
#2240 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Can you ping mc.minecraftirc.net?
#2241 [19:11] <combat_wombat27> yes i can
#2242 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> If so, then you've got a firewall or security software that is filtering traffic from java/minecraft
#2243 [19:12] <SushiDude> Official Minecraft IRC server, I don't think the IRC protocol has an official server
#2244 [19:13] <Guest45552> SushiDude, this cpu has 32-bit 6.0.30.5 (product version)
#2245 [19:13] <combat_wombat27> thats where I'm confused.. I have my firewall disabled and at the current moment have no software firewalls/antiviru
#2246 [19:13] <SushiDude> So you are on the latest version
#2247 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> combat_wombat27 - What firewall do you run?
#2248 [19:13] <SushiDude> combat_wombat27, that is a horrible combination
#2249 [19:14] <combat_wombat27> SushiDude I'm aware.
#2250 [19:14] <Guest45552> yes. the program crashes and an error report is displayed on the desktop, which I can open and view
#2251 [19:14] <SushiDude> Guest45552, can you paste that?
#2252 [19:14] <combat_wombat27> GreyVulpine software wise? none, I'm just sitting behind a Mikrotik router
#2253 [19:14] <Guest45552> It is very lengthy. What do you suggest?
#2254 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> Guest45552 - Paste it to www.pastebin.com, submit it, give us URL
#2255 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> combat_wombat27 - Hmm.
#2256 [19:16] <combat_wombat27> I know... sounds odd... I have no issue w/ any other game I play, and believe me, I play plenty
#2257 [19:16] <Guest45552> SushiDude http://pastebin.com/LDpag6Ev
#2258 [19:17] <Guest45552> tell me if you see it.
#2259 [19:17] <SushiDude> hmm
#2260 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> Guest45552 - Try turning down some of your graphics options in minecraft. Turn render distance down from far to normal, turn advanced open GL off, and so on
#2261 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> combat_wombat27 - You don't run any sort of firewall at all? Nothing that would filter traffic?
#2262 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Does your router do anything there?
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#2264 [19:19] <Guest45552> I didn't think of turning of OpenGL. Render is currently normal, and graphics are fast, performance is Max FPS. Will try again.
#2265 [19:19] <combat_wombat27> I know it sounds horrid but no , not currently. The router handles standard port translation etc... but from the inside.. it should.. let me out
#2266 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> Guest45552 - Try Power saver for performance
#2267 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> combat_wombat27 - Could you try the inbrowser client at minecraft.net, see if that changes anything?
#2268 [19:20] <combat_wombat27> aye aye, lemme try
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#2272 [19:22] <Jackson413> im on linux!!!
#2273 [19:22] <combat_wombat27> deleted .minecraft , gonna try again
#2274 [19:22] <Jackson413> weeeeee this is so fun!!!
#2275 [19:22] <Guest45552> okay, It runs good on Normal render, fast graphics, and max fps performance. It seems a little slow however. If I open Java and assign more RAM to minecraft, that can be helpful, correct?
#2276 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Guest45552 - No, I'm betting your bottleneck at the moment is your integrated intel video chipset
#2277 [19:23] <combat_wombat27> negative. still doesn't work
#2278 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Guest45552 - It's not your 2 gigs of RAM
#2279 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> combat_wombat27 - Really.. really strange..
#2280 [19:23] <combat_wombat27> *ponders*, I can try a temporary direct connect to the modem. standby
#2281 [19:23] <Jackson413> so, how do i install java on ubuntu
#2282 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/QBVdeefp
#2283 [19:24] <Guest45552> GreyVulpine, do you have any suggestions?
#2284 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Guest45552 - Only way you'll be able to play minecraft more smoothly is to purchase a new video card (if you're on a desktop computer)
#2285 [19:25] <Guest45552> Understood. I'll inform my bro. Good thing think they paln on "upgrading"eventually. I never had a problem like this on mine! thanks for the assistance SushiDude and GreyVulpine
#2286 [19:25] <SushiDude> =)
#2287 [19:26] <Jackson413> GreyVulpine, I'm on ubuntu now, how to I install java (64 bit)
#2288 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - See my previous pastebin
#2289 [19:26] <combat_wombat27> * so, just tried to load minecraft on my laptop to test there and now i get a black screen once loaded.. It wasn't black last I played(
#2290 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/QBVdeefp
#2291 [19:26] <SushiDude> Jackson413, first update Ubuntu: sudo su -c 'apt-get update; apt-get upgrade'
#2292 [19:26] <SushiDude> Jackson413, then install openjdk
#2293 [19:26] <SushiDude> it is in the repo I think
#2294 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> combat_wombat27 - clear .minecraft ?
#2295 [19:28] <Jackson413> not sure what a repo is
#2296 [19:28] <SushiDude> Jackson413, GNU/Linux use software repos
#2297 [19:28] <SushiDude> Jackson413, you install most everything from them
#2298 [19:29] <SushiDude> Jackson413, apt-get is the Ubuntu package manager
#2299 [19:29] <SushiDude> you can use that to install things
#2300 [19:29] <Jackson413> so by updating, i have java now?
#2301 [19:29] <SushiDude> no
#2302 [19:29] <SushiDude> you are just updated
#2303 [19:29] <combat_wombat27> wtf... so .. its my router
#2304 [19:29] <SushiDude> you then need to install it
#2305 [19:29] <Jackson413> so i download the jre thingy
#2306 [19:30] <Jackson413> you need to dumb this down quite a bit
#2307 [19:30] <SushiDude> Jackson413, I think Ubuntu also has a GUI tool
#2308 [19:30] * combat_wombat27 ponders if he turned of upnp.
#2308 [19:30] <SushiDude> Software center I think it is called
#2309 [19:30] <SushiDude> again, I don't use Ubuntu
#2310 [19:30] <Jackson413> ok
#2311 [19:30] <SushiDude> I use Fedora =\
#2312 [19:30] <combat_wombat27> Yep, somethings up w/ my router, it is blocking me
#2313 [19:30] <SushiDude> Jackson413, there is an updater tool, you want to use that then restart
#2314 [19:31] <SushiDude> Jackson413, then use software center to install OpenJDK
#2315 [19:31] <Jackson413> i did the thing you told me to into the terminal
#2316 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> combat_wombat27 - Well, at least you now know the cause...
#2317 [19:31] <SushiDude> You can do that too
#2318 [19:31] <Jackson413> and i think its updating
#2319 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> combat_wombat27 - Don't think we've come across a router like that before though
#2320 [19:32] <SushiDude> I like using the CLI tools more then the GUI ones
#2321 [19:32] <SushiDude> than*
#2322 [19:33] <combat_wombat27> in theory is upnp is turned off any router would do the same thing, right? because the connection would not be allowed through
#2323 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> Not... necessarily?
#2324 [19:34] <SushiDude> I do remember apt-get/software center being very derpy though
#2325 [19:34] <SushiDude> so if you have any issues with it ping me
#2326 [19:34] <SushiDude> <3 YUM and RPM
#2327 [19:34] <Jackson413> kk
#2328 [19:34] <combat_wombat27> from my understanding, it wouldnt be allowed through due to the whole not port 80 or 443 blah blah, nonstandard
#2329 [19:35] <SushiDude> </3 apt-get and deb =\\
#2330 [19:36] <SushiDude> Jackson413, on freenode there is the official Ubuntu support channel: #ubuntu
#2331 [19:36] <Jackson413> im scared ill get yelled at
#2332 [19:37] <SushiDude> Ubuntu is the noob distro =
#2333 [19:37] <SushiDude> =\
#2334 [19:37] <Jackson413> its updating so im crossing my fingers
#2335 [19:37] <SushiDude> I don't think they will yell at you
#2336 [19:38] <Jackson413> wtf
#2337 [19:38] <Jackson413> cant do freenode on mibbit?
#2338 [19:38] <SushiDude> mibbit sucks =\
#2339 [19:38] <Jackson413> i know
#2340 [19:38] <SushiDude> use a real IRC client
#2341 [19:39] <Jackson413> i need a client
#2342 [19:39] <Jackson413> so bad...
#2343 [19:39] <SushiDude> irssi and xchat are good ones
#2344 [19:39] <Jackson413> which one is free?
#2345 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> http://xchat.org/files/binary/rpm/
#2346 [19:39] <SushiDude> Jackson413, both are under the GPL
#2347 [19:39] <combat_wombat27> name hilightig for mirc? im sure it exists.. where?
#2348 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> It already does that by default
#2349 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Or should
#2350 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> Tools -> options -> display
#2351 [19:40] <combat_wombat27> when you say my name it is black, like everything else
#2352 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> "Always highlight on message"
#2353 [19:40] <SushiDude> Jackson413, irssi is for CLI and xchat is for GUI
#2354 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> combat_wombat27 - Test
#2355 [19:40] <Jackson413> how do i install xhat on linux
#2356 [19:40] <Jackson413> i literqally have no idea
#2357 [19:40] <SushiDude> Jackson413, on Ubuntu?
#2358 [19:40] <Jackson413> yeah
#2359 [19:41] <SushiDude> Jackson413, first Ubuntu != GNU/Linux
#2360 [19:41] <SushiDude> you need to learn that
#2361 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
#2362 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2363 [19:41] <SushiDude> Jackson413, sudo apt-get install xchat
#2364 [19:41] <SushiDude> that is the command to install xchat
#2365 [19:42] <combat_wombat27> GreyVulpine nope, http://imgur.com/ULK6Z
#2366 [19:42] <Jackson413> should i wait for it to update?
#2367 [19:42] <SushiDude> yes
#2368 [19:42] <Jackson413> os wise?
#2369 [19:42] <Jackson413> ok
#2370 [19:43] <SushiDude> wait for it to finish then restart
#2371 [19:43] <SushiDude> then install everything =)
#2372 [19:43] <Jackson413> takin a while
#2373 [19:43] <SushiDude> ya
#2374 [19:43] <SushiDude> because most GNU/Linux distros have a ton of updated
#2375 [19:43] <SushiDude> updates*
#2376 [19:44] <SushiDude> I know Fedora gets around 100+ a week
#2377 [19:45] <combat_wombat27> as you can see from this http://imgur.com/ULK6Z the option is selected and my name is still not highlighted :/
#2378 [19:45] <Jackson413> jesus this is taking forever
#2379 [19:45] <combat_wombat27> Jackson413 when is the last time you updated?
#2380 [19:46] <Jackson413> linux newb remember
#2381 [19:46] <SushiDude> combat_wombat27, he just installed Ubuntu
#2382 [19:46] <Jackson413> just installed ubuntu
#2383 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> combat_wombat27 - Switch to a different channel
#2384 [19:46] <combat_wombat27> oic
#2385 [19:46] <combat_wombat27> yeah, it will be a while
#2386 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> /join #minecrafthelp.breakroom
#2387 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> combat_wombat27 - Test. You should be highlighted here.
#2388 [19:47] <SushiDude> Jackson413, So there will be around 200-400+ updates
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#2390 [19:47] <SushiDude> Jackson413, when you first install
#2391 [19:48] <combat_wombat27> nope didn't... again :(
#2392 [19:48] <combat_wombat27> say my name again in the other
#2393 [19:48] <Jackson413> i think it finished
#2394 [19:49] <SushiDude> Jackson413, try closing out of the terminal and see if says if anything is running?
#2395 [19:49] <SushiDude> s/?/.
#2396 [19:51] <combat_wombat27> i assume noone here has a mikrotik router do they?
#2397 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> haven't even heard of that brand until now
#2398 [19:52] <SushiDude> I am getting a new router for x11mas
#2399 [19:52] <SushiDude> =)
#2400 [19:52] <SushiDude> Cisco Linksys E4200V2
#2401 [19:52] <combat_wombat27> its business class.. quite a few isps use them as backbones
#2402 [19:52] <combat_wombat27> but its not a major issue, i will have a fortigate 40c soon that could support a small business :P
#2403 [19:55] <combat_wombat27> shit
#2404 [19:55] <combat_wombat27> :( upnp is enabled :(
#2405 [19:56] <combat_wombat27> at this point, i don't even know what it could be
#2406 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> Solution. 000 buckshot.
#2407 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> Solves every electronic problem known to date.
#2408 [19:57] <SushiDude> lol
#2409 [19:57] <combat_wombat27> then i won't even have a router between me and the net.. and even I am not that stupid..
#2410 [19:58] <combat_wombat27> wow. studying for my Network+ and i still don't know why this isn't working :P
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#2412 [19:59] <SushiDude> lol
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#2414 [19:59] <combat_wombat27> hey minecraft is default tcp on what port?
#2415 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> 25565
#2416 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Er, wait, that's only if you're hosting a server
#2417 [19:59] <Jackson413> weee xchat
#2418 [20:00] <combat_wombat27> what do clients connect over?
#2419 [20:00] <Jackson413> so i downloaded minecraft.jar
#2420 [20:00] <Jackson413> now what
#2421 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> sorry, 25565/TCP -> server communicates back on a random port.
#2422 [20:00] <Jackson413> i try to open it with jre6
#2423 [20:01] <Jackson413> no workie
#2424 [20:02] <Jackson413> anyone?
#2425 [20:04] <Jackson413> says its not marked as executable
#2426 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> chmod +x it then
#2427 [20:04] <Jackson413> how?
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#2429 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> You're trying to run, what? Minecraft.jar?
#2430 [20:05] <Jackson413> got it
#2431 [20:05] <Jackson413> there we are
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#2433 [20:08] <mib_sfu8n2> Whenever I open Minecraft and load a world, it crashes after 3 mins of gameplay. After crashing, it leaves an error report on the desktop. How can I fix this?
#2434 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Copy Error report, paste to pastebin.com and submit it. Give us URL to pastebin
#2435 [20:08] <Jackson413> minecraft starts...blinking when i fullscreen it
#2436 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Now that sounds like a familiar issue on *nix
#2437 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Can't recall what causes it.
#2438 [20:09] <mib_sfu8n2> http://pastebin.com/6sLn20d1
#2439 [20:09] <Jackson413> any idears
#2440 [20:09] <Jackson413> oh
#2441 [20:10] <Jackson413> kealper, can you help a brotha
#2442 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_sfu8n2 - That's going to be java at fault. Completely uninstall and reinstall java from your machine
#2443 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - Start by updating lwjgl in ~/.minecraft/
#2444 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> If you need instructions...
#2445 [20:10] <Jackson413> i do
#2446 [20:10] <mib_sfu8n2> Ok, cheers
#2447 [20:11] <Wug> GreyVulpine: updating lwjgl is something that can be automated
#2448 [20:11] <mib_sfu8n2> I let you know what happens
#2449 [20:11] <Wug> want me to write a script that does it
#2450 [20:11] <mib_sfu8n2> *I'll
#2451 [20:11] <Jackson413> Wug, please!
#2452 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
#2453 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> I recommend using 2.7.1
#2454 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> http://sourceforge.net/projects/java-game-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.7.1/
#2455 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> 2.8.x has been known to cause problems
#2456 [20:12] <Wug> I'll mirror the 2.7.1 files on wug.me and write a download-n-replacer
#2457 [20:12] <Jackson413> kk
#2458 [20:13] <Wug> I cant do this now, I'm about to eat dinner :S but I can have it done by tomorrow
#2459 [20:14] <Jackson413> ok]
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#2462 [20:26] <MasterPrime> using the .exe version, got a server set up (hosted by a friend) ports are forwarded and everything seems to be in order but I just can't reach the server. any ideas?
#2463 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> IP?
#2464 [20:27] <MasterPrime> 173.72.197.120:25565
#2465 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> !check 173.72.197.120
#2466 [20:28] <MasterPrime> which is weird cuz I can ping it just fine.
#2467 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Then your friend isn't setting it up correctly on his end. Double check his port forwarding. Double check that he has all firewall/security software allowing java through
#2468 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Make absolutely sure that 173.72.197.120 is his IP address
#2469 [20:28] <MasterPrime> I have checked all that.
#2470 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> Is the server running?
#2471 [20:29] <MasterPrime> it is. it's static and the server is currently on.
#2472 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> Give us screenshots so we can confirm his network settings. Port forwarding, computer's IP, router's status page....
#2473 [20:31] <MasterPrime> well I can't do that. it's not my PC and he doesn't want me remoting in lest I see he has weird fetishes.
#2474 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Then we cannot confirm that he has set it up correctly on his end..
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#2476 [20:32] <MasterPrime> Let's assume that I've checked the portforwarding 25565 on TCP/UDP, added javaw.exe and minecraftserver.exe to the firewall exception lists, and that the IP is static and typed correctly. Would there be another reason that the server is unreachable?
#2477 [20:32] <schnozzle> I was on here before asking about how to fix the Minecraft crashes, i was told to uninstall and reinstall Java - it didn't work
#2478 [20:33] <combat_wombat27> masterprime. assuming that is all right, it will work
#2479 [20:33] <combat_wombat27> unless you have other software blocking the ports
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#2481 [20:34] <MasterPrime> well that's booty. we just want a simple server to get started while we get the bukkit one installed and configured.
#2482 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Most of the time, we see a configuration issue. Port forwarding's not set up correctly when the person says it is.
#2483 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> or software firewall issue, the server's still being filtered by the software.
#2484 [20:35] <MasterPrime> balls. Okay. I'm gonna play and see if I can get one working on my end.
#2485 [20:35] <MasterPrime> Thanks for the info.
#2486 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Also, make sure he doesn't have more than 1 router doing NAT.
#2487 [20:37] <MasterPrime> it does need to be both tcp/udp right?
#2488 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft currently only uses 25565/TCP
#2489 [20:37] <schnozzle> Anything else you can suggest? I've sent a bug report to Oracle but no help was given.
#2490 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Give us a dxdiag?
#2491 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> ??> schnozzle win/dxdiag
#2492 [20:38] <VoxelHead> schnozzle: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2493 [20:38] <VoxelHead> schnozzle: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2494 [20:38] <schnozzle> In Minecraft?
#2495 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> No, on your computer.
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#2497 [20:40] <schnozzle> http://pastebin.com/60j5f0JZ
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#2499 [20:41] <MasterPrime_> can I do the !check command? or is that restricted?
#2500 [20:41] <MasterPrime_> !check 70.94.41.215
#2501 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - I'm pretty sure it's a java issue, but could you try updating your nvidia video drivers from: http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/8971
#2502 [20:42] <MasterPrime> !check 70.94.41.215
#2503 [20:43] <MasterPrime> huzzah! so wtf did he do wrong?
#2504 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> No idea. Could be any number of reasons
#2505 [20:43] <schnozzle> Ok, will do
#2506 [20:43] <schnozzle> Thanks
#2507 [20:43] <MasterPrime> heh. but when I try to login to that I get invalid server key.
#2508 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft_server.exe is running 1.0.0, known bug
#2509 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Was fixed in 1.0.1, but that server is currently only available as the .jar
#2510 [20:44] <MasterPrime> screw it. I wanna play some skyblock.
#2511 [20:47] <combat_wombat27> im confused as to why port forwarding for my client will even do anythhing,, it shouldn't .. right? wtf on my router could be blocking my connection?
#2512 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> combat_wombat27 - No idea man. I don't think I've met a consumer-grade router that's blocked outgoing traffic from the minecraft client before
#2513 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> Especially since you were able to log in with https through the launcher already.
#2514 [20:49] <combat_wombat27> well its not exactly your standard consumer router
#2515 [20:49] <combat_wombat27> .... its .. a bit....more
#2516 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Could you give me an idea of what else it contains? Does it have any sort of online example web interface?
#2517 [20:50] <combat_wombat27> http://imgur.com/K6uyT
#2518 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Oi...
#2519 [20:51] <combat_wombat27> its a .. "big boy" router. :P
#2520 [20:52] <combat_wombat27> soon enought I will be upgrading to this, http://www.fortinet.com/products/fortigate/40C.html the specs are insane.. its supports 20Mbps Antivirus Throughput, thats everything being scanned before it even gets inside, and still w/ impressive speed.
#2521 [20:53] <combat_wombat27> I just don't know what sort of things would be blocking... network wise, regardless of the router
#2522 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> How verbose is the logging on the router?
#2523 [20:54] <combat_wombat27> ... lemme piddle for a bit and I will let you know.. its been a while since ive really played w/ it.. just over the top complex
#2524 [20:55] <combat_wombat27> currently the log is just full of people trying to hack my router every day constantly
#2525 [20:55] <combat_wombat27> today its from 69.65.10.81
#2526 [20:55] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2526 [20:56] <combat_wombat27> its drivehosting.com
#2527 [20:56] <combat_wombat27> aparently
#2528 [21:06] <Scott> Or you could just get an OS that isn't prone to malware.
#2529 [21:07] <combat_wombat27> Scott are you talking to me?
#2530 [21:07] <Scott> Yes. :>
#2531 [21:07] <combat_wombat27> its not my OS, they are trying to get into my router
#2532 [21:07] <combat_wombat27> somedays ftp, others ssh
#2533 [21:08] <Scott> Antivirus won't stop that.
#2534 [21:08] <combat_wombat27> yes, never said it would... no i just like the fact that it can still move that volume of traffic and still scan it all
#2535 [21:09] <combat_wombat27> the fortigate is business class. I technically have it for "testing" since I use them for my work, but it makes a nice router at home as well :D
#2536 [21:09] <combat_wombat27> and you would be supprised how many oses I have running behind my network :P Not just a bunch of windows boxes
#2537 [21:10] <Scott> Meh, I'm just going to get an airport extreme and be happy.
#2538 [21:11] <combat_wombat27> buuuhhhhhh
#2539 [21:11] * GreyVulpine pffts, apple..
#2539 [21:11] <combat_wombat27> here.. lemme just spend a shat load of money for a shiny nothing better than much .
#2540 [21:12] <Scott> the airport extreme is pretty.
#2541 [21:12] <Scott> dual band wifi
#2542 [21:12] <Scott> and it supports ipv6 natively.
#2543 [21:12] <Scott> most SOHO routers don't support ipv6.
#2544 [21:12] * GreyVulpine yawns.
#2544 [21:12] <Scott> and it can act as a print server and file server. :D
#2545 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> New Linksys/cisco consumer routers do now
#2546 [21:12] <combat_wombat27> oooh no! ipv6! the ip addresses! hurry they are dissapearing!
#2547 [21:12] <combat_wombat27> lol
#2548 [21:13] <combat_wombat27> scott, mine can do all that.. for less.
#2549 [21:13] <combat_wombat27> dd-wrt = win
#2550 [21:13] <Scott> I have dd-wrt currently.
#2551 [21:13] <Scott> It annoys me.
#2552 [21:13] <combat_wombat27> pft
#2553 [21:13] <Scott> But anyways, dual band routers aren't that cheap.
#2554 [21:13] <Scott> $159 is fairly good for the specs.
#2555 [21:13] <Scott> d-link sells comparable routers for more.
#2556 [21:13] * GreyVulpine blehs at dlink
#2556 [21:14] <Scott> As does Linksys.
#2557 [21:14] <combat_wombat27> now i do like d-link
#2558 [21:14] <Scott> i use an asus right now.
#2559 [21:14] <combat_wombat27> wasn't aware they made routers,,
#2560 [21:14] <Scott> mhm
#2561 [21:15] <Scott> It's advertised as an "open source firmware compatible router".
#2562 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> And linksys routers also support ipv6, and meet your 160 price mark or cheaper.
#2563 [21:16] <combat_wombat27> so, its an asus that is made for ddwrt.. nice
#2564 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Also with dualband mode.
#2565 [21:16] <combat_wombat27> link?
#2566 [21:16] <Scott> Do they support AFP?
#2567 [21:16] <Scott> Specifically AFP 3.3
#2568 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Some proprietary apple protocol?
#2569 [21:17] <Scott> Apple File Protocol.
#2570 [21:17] <Scott> Netatalk is open source.
#2571 [21:17] <Scott> Apple Filing Protocol*
#2572 [21:17] <combat_wombat27> ... scott
#2573 [21:17] <combat_wombat27> can you give me a link to their routers?
#2574 [21:17] <Scott> Apple only offers 3 models.
#2575 [21:17] <combat_wombat27> no
#2576 [21:18] <combat_wombat27> not the apple
#2577 [21:18] <combat_wombat27> the asus
#2578 [21:18] <Scott> Airport Express, AirPort Extreme, and Time Capsule (which is the same as the Extreme but has an internal hard drive).
#2579 [21:18] <Scott> Look on Newegg
#2580 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> No, can't say a non-apple brand router will support some proprietary apple protocol without apple sending their lawsuit lawyers after them.
#2581 [21:18] <Scott> GreyVulpine: Netgear NAS supports AFP.
#2582 [21:18] <Scott> There are open source implementations. Apple doesn't care.
#2583 [21:19] <combat_wombat27> and they probably pay out the arse to apple for that
#2584 [21:19] <Scott> Nope.
#2585 [21:19] * combat_wombat27 points at netgear
#2585 [21:19] <Omega_Guardian> apple sure has gone lame with the drm from what I hear on hardware. Even making chargers not fully compatible and stuff
#2586 [21:19] <Scott> what do you mean?
#2587 [21:20] <Scott> Apple has proprietary chargers, yes.
#2588 [21:20] <Scott> I love magsafe lol
#2589 [21:20] <combat_wombat27> they wanted to make the ipod sync w/ macs only but they didn't because they couldn't sell as many that way
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#2591 [21:21] <Scott> and that is their right.
#2592 [21:22] <Scott> Companies make hardware for Windows only all the time.
#2593 [21:22] <Scott> No one bitches about them.
#2594 [21:22] <combat_wombat27> lets be clear, never said it wasn't. however its pretty lame. they make it for windows because of the percentage of people who use windows and how much moer it would cost just to reach the far few less that use mac
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#2596 [21:23] <combat_wombat27> Wish opensuse would download faster...
#2597 [21:29] <Omega_Guardian> I think it's more they make even the non-OS stuff not work right unless you have high-price apple version
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#2599 [21:29] <Omega_Guardian> like to say charge an iPod, or use headphones with it
#2600 [21:30] <Lukario|Urgent> Ive been told that recent abuse of the mod editing system has happened on my mod? What does this mean?
#2601 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Mojang doesn't do anything with mods. That's something you'll need to take up with the mod people
#2602 [21:32] <Lukario|Urgent> I need to know what this means exactly.
#2603 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea, since you didn't include where you got this notice from
#2604 [21:34] <combat_wombat27> but but GreyVulpine ! his name says urgent.. we must help!
#2605 [21:35] <Kealper> ಠ_ಠ
#2606 [21:35] <Lukario|Urgent> I got it form a redstone miner on minecraft forums who is a good modder and told me that a ip was blacklisted
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#2608 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> None of which tells me what mod you worked on, whom you got it from, or from where this IP is blacklisted from. All of which, we have no control over anyways.
#2609 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> The minecraft forums are not run by Mojang, so they cannot help you in any ways. The forums are run by the community. An IP being blacklisted could mean anything, but since servers are run by the individual, there's nothing Mojang can do about that. You'll have to talk to the person running the server to find out more.
#2610 [21:39] <Lukario|Urgent> GreyVulpine Its was a dragonfly mod i, i made the mod, i got the message from Gnu32, and the ip was blacklisted from The Minecraft Mod Index
#2611 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> modding is also unsupported by this channel, as well as Mojang. There has been no official Mod API released by Mojang, and thus, we cannot assist with any modding issues here.
#2612 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll need to talk with whomever is in charge with "The minecraft mod index"
#2613 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll need to talk with whomever is in charge with "The minecraft mod index"
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#2615 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Man, over 2700 mods listed in this "mod index".. http://mods.simplaza.net/
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#2618 [21:44] <Kealper> i seen "mod index" and a website and was like BANBANBANBANBAN but then i checked the name of the person saying it lol
#2619 [21:44] <Kealper> waving wheat :o
#2620 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#2621 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> And people still come here, expecting support for each and every one of those mods.
#2622 [21:45] <Kealper> lol
#2623 [21:46] <Scott> GreyVulpine: I demand that you learn how each mod works and support them.
#2624 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Sure, just get Mojang to pay me a decent wage.
#2625 [21:46] <Scott> Hey i actually suggested they hire you
#2626 [21:46] <Kealper> that GLSL shaders mod looks kind of neat.... from the looks of it you can actually supply your own shaders for it to apply... that could be interesting
#2627 [21:49] <Omega_Guardian> what would be what it can do?
#2628 [21:49] <Kealper> what, that GLSL shaders mod?
#2629 [21:51] <Kealper> it lets you use shader programs on Minecraft before the final rendered frame is pushed in to view, so you can change all sorts of things on how the game looks
#2630 [21:52] <Kealper> that's how you get the same game engine looking like both Half-Life 2 and Team Fortress 2, by applying different shaders to the frames
#2631 [21:52] <Kealper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrcQHF9PK9k ;o
#2632 [21:52] <Scott> Well, it looks like I won't be shopping tomorrow D:
#2633 [21:53] <Scott> Everywhere is closed!
#2634 [21:53] <Scott> Except Amazon of course.
#2635 [21:53] <Scott> Omg.
#2636 [21:53] <Scott> I bought something on Amazon last night and I thought it posted on twitter
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#2638 [21:53] <Kealper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvuxFfrTPoU more shader magic
#2639 [21:53] <Scott> I was going to off myself if it did out of embarrassment lol
#2640 [21:54] <Kealper> Scott: O.o
#2641 [21:54] <Kealper> what did you buy?
#2642 [21:54] <Scott> Not telling!
#2643 [21:54] <Kealper> aww... not even in query? :3
#2644 [21:55] <Scott> nope! lol
#2645 [21:55] * Kealper might have an idea then
#2645 [21:55] <Scott> oh?
#2646 [21:56] <Scott> Do tell me your idea in query!
#2647 [21:56] <Kealper> i notice'd you, lemme just send in query
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#2649 [22:02] <Clen> I keep receiving a certai nerror message,
#2650 [22:02] <Clen> when I play minecraft, can someone tell me how to fix it?
#2651 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Could you share that error message with us via pastebin.com?
#2652 [22:03] <Clen> er, hodl on
#2653 [22:03] <Clen> hold*
#2654 [22:04] <Clen> http://pastebin.com/EyUg9eWG
#2655 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> nvidia video drivers. Do you know how to update them?
#2656 [22:04] <Clen> not.. exactly, unless I simply click update
#2657 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what video card you have?
#2658 [22:06] <Clen> GeForce 9800M GS 512 Mb
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#2660 [22:06] <Clen> is that it?
#2661 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> That would be it. Head to nvidia.com -> download drivers
#2662 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> There, you should see a series of drop downs to select your card/operating system. It'll provide you with the latest drivers for your card
#2663 [22:07] <Clen> I dont see it's exact name.. what one do I aim for with my video card
#2664 [22:09] <Scott> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9631803/Screenshots/p8yg.png is it pretty? :s
#2665 [22:09] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: what did you get for christmas?
#2666 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Geforce -> Geforce 9M series -> then choose your operating system
#2667 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> I got a mousepad.
#2668 [22:09] <TheNytangel> Cool..
#2669 [22:09] <Clen> btw thank you for helping o_o
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#2671 [22:10] <wannabemac> Hello.
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#2673 [22:12] <Clen> It says I gotta register unde Driver tuner..?
#2674 [22:12] <wannabemac> ?
#2675 [22:13] <Clen> to download a videocard
#2676 [22:13] <Clen> god im confused
#2677 [22:13] <wannabemac> I do not know what issue you are having.
#2678 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> You don't need to register
#2679 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Go to http://nvidia.com
#2680 [22:15] <Clen> did i give myself a virus by getting a driver tuner thingy?
#2681 [22:15] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2681 [22:16] <wannabemac> Yes, your computer's battery will burst into flames.
#2682 [22:16] <wannabemac> No, not really.
#2683 [22:16] <Clen> -_-
#2684 [22:16] * GreyVulpine thwaps wannabemac over the head
#2684 [22:16] <Clen> Im totally clueless
#2685 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> Are you at nvidia.com, did you hit Download drivers
#2686 [22:17] <Clen> yes, i can do that, im jsut terrified that I have a .exe that wont be deleted
#2687 [22:17] <Clen> that self downloaded
#2688 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Delete it
#2689 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> You should've gotten a download from nvidia.
#2690 [22:18] * wannabemac wonders if GreyVulpine downloaded the map he made for him.
#2690 [22:18] <Clen> yea ik, i foolishly followed antoher site before i came here
#2691 [22:18] <Clen> and I have something that refuses to be deleted even when im admin..
#2692 [22:18] <Clen> but thats antoher issue,
#2693 [22:19] <Clen> thanks for help with the driver :)
#2694 [22:21] <wannabemac> xD
#2695 [22:22] <wannabemac> Kinda like a Sony Battery.
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#2697 [22:34] <HackerOperJP> Hello, I have a friend who has a minecraft server on a linux OS and we can't get the mods to load in the right order. Is there anyway that we can set it up to load them in the right order?
#2698 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> ?? mods
#2699 [22:34] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2700 [22:34] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
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#2702 [22:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Hello there fellow friends.
#2703 [22:37] <wannabemac> Whatever you say CrusaderDeleters
#2704 [22:37] <CrusaderDeleters> anyone mind helping me with a little windows xp problem?
#2705 [22:38] <wannabemac> Does it have to do with minecraft?
#2706 [22:39] <CrusaderDeleters> eh... I've actually gotten some non-mc help here before. I just have the people with the mc problems have theirs resolved first.
#2707 [22:40] <wannabemac> I am debating whether to help you with xp...
#2708 [22:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Honestly, I go here because I do not know of any other place to ask. XP
#2709 [22:40] <wannabemac> So what do you need?
#2710 [22:42] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: got $60 visa gift card.. just blew $10. Should I spend the next $50 and end up with 3 cents left?
#2711 [22:43] <TheNytangel> I mean, Anno 2070 looks really good....
#2712 [22:44] <CrusaderDeleters> ugh, sorry for wasting your time, my father wants me off. I've actually wanted to get my file to not have an access denial.
#2713 [22:44] <CrusaderDeleters> gtg anyways.
#2714 [22:44] <CrusaderDeleters> bye-ya, nyt.
#2715 [22:44] <CrusaderDeleters> and thanks for your attempted help, wanna.
#2716 [22:47] <TheNytangel> wannabemac: should I blow the last $50?
#2717 [22:48] <wannabemac> Well it is Christmas.
#2718 [22:48] <TheNytangel> May as well buy me stuff with my money, right? :P
#2719 [22:48] <wannabemac> Lol
#2720 [22:48] <oldtopmanserver> TheNytangel: Are you on Desura?
#2721 [22:48] <TheNytangel> So far today I have bought Wings of Prey, Company of Heroes, and soon to be Anno 2070
#2722 [22:48] <TheNytangel> oldtopmanserver: steam?
#2723 [22:49] <oldtopmanserver> nope
#2724 [22:49] <oldtopmanserver> well, sorta
#2725 [22:50] <TheNytangel> Well that isn't good
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#2727 [22:51] <TheNytangel> Steam just stopped working in the middle of me buying this...
#2728 [22:52] * TheNytangel moves to breakroom to start yelling
#2728 [22:55] <TheNytangel> 3 cents left on my gift card..
#2729 [22:55] <TheNytangel> So much for that lasting longer than a couple hourse
#2730 [22:55] <TheNytangel> Hours*
#2731 [22:55] <wannabemac> Buy a gumball on ebay with it.
#2732 [22:55] <wannabemac> Hope it isnt poisoned
#2733 [22:55] <TheNytangel> Are you gidding?
#2734 [22:55] <TheNytangel> Kidding*
#2735 [22:55] <wannabemac> No.
#2736 [22:56] <wannabemac> Yes.
#2737 [22:56] <TheNytangel> They cost $.50 at restaurants, and the shipping is at least $5
#2738 [22:57] <TheNytangel> Wings of Prey has been downloading all afternoon and it's only almost 30% done
#2739 [22:57] <wannabemac> What country do you live in?
#2740 [22:57] <TheNytangel> US
#2741 [22:57] <wannabemac> It is night for me...
#2742 [22:57] <TheNytangel> It is night for me too
#2743 [22:57] <wannabemac> oh.
#2744 [22:57] <TheNytangel> Almost 10 pm
#2745 [22:58] <wannabemac> Almost 11 for me.
#2746 [22:59] <TheNytangel> Well
#2747 [22:59] <TheNytangel> I'll let all 5 games fight over the internet connection that that computer is getting
#2748 [23:00] <TheNytangel> And I'll turn off my laptop so it is faster, and go to bed
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#2751 [23:01] <Clen> Java has an error during minecraft that says something about SE binary
#2752 [23:01] <wannabemac> Okay.
#2753 [23:01] <Clen> What do i do?
#2754 [23:01] <wannabemac> Are you trying to play minecraft?
#2755 [23:02] <wannabemac> Oh.
#2756 [23:02] <Clen> Yes.
#2757 [23:02] * wannabemac summons TheNytangel.
#2757 [23:03] <Clen> er..
#2758 [23:03] <wannabemac> I have no idea.
#2759 [23:03] <Clen> darn, okay, shouldI just wait around till someone does?
#2760 [23:03] <wannabemac> Wait.
#2761 [23:04] <wannabemac> When does it say that?
#2762 [23:04] <Clen> So far, when I've opened my inventory/ gotten an acheivement
#2763 [23:06] <wannabemac> Did you install mods?
#2764 [23:06] <Clen> er, no, just texture packs
#2765 [23:06] <Clen> if tahts considered a mod
#2766 [23:06] <wannabemac> Hmm.
#2767 [23:07] <wannabemac> Was it a HD Texture pack?
#2768 [23:07] <Clen> I have sme, but the one im using isn't HD
#2769 [23:07] <Clen> some*
#2770 [23:07] <wannabemac> Did you install a HD patcher?
#2771 [23:08] <Clen> yep
#2772 [23:08] <wannabemac> Try Force Updating.
#2773 [23:09] <Clen> It seems to have stopped o_o thanks
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#2775 [23:09] <wannabemac> Your welcome
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#2779 [23:28] <dwesinator> Hello! I know this is not affiliated w/ Mojang but I'm hoping someone else has encountered the same problem & can offer some advice. I bought a premium account for minecraft over 6 hours ago (I did get a confirmation) & it said it may take 1 hour before it is ready. I've tried logging in & it still says I need to buy premium account.any ideas?
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#2781 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Check your bank/credit card, make sure payment has been made on their end. Many banks stop payment because paying for minecraft means making an international payment to Mojang.
#2782 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> You should have gotten an email from Mojang confirming payment has been made.
#2783 [23:36] <dwesinator> Thanks so much for the help! I did not get a confirmation email...does that mean my bank probably has not apporved the payment?
#2784 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> I would check with your bank first off. See if there's anything wrong on that end before continuing further.
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#2786 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> If you used Moneybookers or Paypal, they also have customer support pages as well. If all else fails, send an email to help@mojang.com with all your information
#2787 [23:38] <dwesinator> ok thanks a lot, will do! Have a good night!