#1 [00:00] <hmw> i am back and 50% SimenOlai
#2 [00:00] <hmw> heheh
#3 [00:00] <SimenOlai> 50% {unimatrix} too :P
#4 [00:00] <hmw> indeed
#5 [00:00] <{unimatrix}> tbh it was an exerpiance
#6 [00:00] <{unimatrix}> the guy had a mac
#7 [00:00] <SimenOlai> haha
#8 [00:01] <hmw> peeves: what happens? Totally nothing, black screen, weird error message? If there was an error message, we would like to know the exact text
#9 [00:01] <{unimatrix}> i should get a mac
#10 [00:01] <SimenOlai> hmw, we dont need 3 people helping the same guy :P
#11 [00:01] <{unimatrix}> just to get the feel of it
#12 [00:01] <SimenOlai> or do we?
#13 [00:01] <SimenOlai> what if 100 people helped one guy
#14 [00:02] <SimenOlai> trough teamviewer
#15 [00:02] <{unimatrix}> the guy would be happy
#16 [00:02] <{unimatrix}> with all the attention hes getting
#17 [00:02] <peeves> hold on, he's explaining what's happening
#18 [00:02] <SimenOlai> ok
#19 [00:02] <SimenOlai> i hear all he say :)
#20 [00:02] * SimenOlai lied
#20 [00:02] <peeves> he can't download the game
#21 [00:02] <hmw> peeves: It would be easier, if your friend could come here. Can you help him log on to this channel?
#22 [00:03] <{unimatrix}> easyer yes , realistic no
#23 [00:03] <SimenOlai> what?
#24 [00:03] <SimenOlai> that made no sense {unimatrix} :P
#25 [00:03] <hmw> peeves: He can't download the minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/download ?
#26 [00:04] <SimenOlai> or cant download the files? peeves
#27 [00:04] <{unimatrix}> stop guessing
#28 [00:04] <{unimatrix}> let him get the correct info
#29 [00:04] <{unimatrix}> its prolly something trivial
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#31 [00:04] <tjk> hey
#32 [00:04] <SimenOlai> hmw, how you know its a windows?
#33 [00:04] <SimenOlai> hi tjk
#34 [00:05] <SimenOlai> need any help?
#35 [00:05] <tjk> i can't seem to download the game
#36 [00:05] <{unimatrix}> hmm
#37 [00:05] <tjk> i already bought it
#38 [00:05] <SimenOlai> you brother right?
#39 [00:05] <{unimatrix}> works fine on my end
#40 [00:05] <tjk> tes
#41 [00:05] <tjk> *yes
#42 [00:05] <SimenOlai> {unimatrix}, its peeves brother :P
#43 [00:05] <hmw> Hmm... just downloaded it.
#44 [00:05] <{unimatrix}> letme fix it for ya
#45 [00:05] <tjk> k
#46 [00:06] <SimenOlai> tjk, you cant download from minecraft.net/download ?
#47 [00:06] <hmw> tjk: can you log in to minecraf.net?
#48 [00:06] <tjk> yes
#49 [00:06] <SimenOlai> how can you log in to minecraf.net ?
#50 [00:06] <hmw> tjk: What operating system, what browser do you use?
#51 [00:07] <tjk> google chromer
#52 [00:07] <SimenOlai> minecraf.net is advertising site :P
#53 [00:07] <SimenOlai> google chrome <3 <3 <3 <3
#54 [00:07] <tjk> *google chrome
#55 [00:07] <hmw> tjk: Windows 7?
#56 [00:07] <tjk> yes
#57 [00:07] <{unimatrix}> tjk
#58 [00:07] <{unimatrix}> pm
#59 [00:07] * mib_wa8wht [mib_wa8wht@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#60 [00:07] <SimenOlai> windows 7 <3 <3 <3
#61 [00:07] <SimenOlai> hi there mib_wa8wht
#62 [00:07] <mib_wa8wht> hey
#63 [00:07] <SimenOlai> need any help?
#64 [00:07] <Kealper> SimenOlai: it'd be much appriciated if you could keep quiet if you don't know the answer and people (that means even one person) are getting help
#65 [00:07] <SimenOlai> I am here to help JUST you :D
#66 [00:07] <mib_wa8wht> yes
#67 [00:08] <SimenOlai> o.O
#68 [00:08] <mib_wa8wht> i have purchased minecraft
#69 [00:08] <SimenOlai> ok whats your problem?
#70 [00:08] <mib_wa8wht> but my account hasn't been verified
#71 [00:08] <SimenOlai> oh noes, when did you uy?
#72 [00:08] <mib_wa8wht> its been over 3 hours
#73 [00:08] <SimenOlai> you should wait a little longer :P
#74 [00:08] <{unimatrix}> tjk , did that fix your problem?
#75 [00:08] <SimenOlai> ??> mib_wa8wht payment
#76 [00:08] <VoxelHead> mib_wa8wht: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#77 [00:08] <VoxelHead> mib_wa8wht: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#78 [00:08] <hmw> mib_wa8wht: give it more time, perhaps wait a day. Can be slow at times
#79 [00:09] <tjk> no
#80 [00:09] <mib_wa8wht> ok
#81 [00:09] <mib_wa8wht> ty
#82 [00:09] <{unimatrix}> did you download that file?
#83 [00:09] <mib_wa8wht> which one
#84 [00:09] <tjk> was i supposed to log out & log back in
#85 [00:09] <SimenOlai> {unimatrix}, please add name tag before sentense
#86 [00:09] <{unimatrix}> tjk , please come to private message
#87 [00:09] <{unimatrix}> and we will sort you out
#88 [00:10] <SimenOlai> {unimatrix}, you confuse mib_wa8wht :P
#89 [00:10] <tjk> tjk
#90 [00:10] <mib_wa8wht> in ur personal opinion is minecraft a long lasting appeal game
#91 [00:10] <hmw> please don't go to private messages, because nobody will be able to tell you, if you made a mistake/typo. This is a support CHANNEL not a hotline
#92 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_wa8wht - It is
#93 [00:11] <SimenOlai> {unimatrix}, listen to hmw now :P
#94 [00:11] <hmw> mib_wa8wht: Depends. It can be played in many ways, you have really much freedom. In my opinion, it's the best game of the last 10 years
#95 [00:11] <mib_wa8wht> is christmas part of the reason for slower account verification
#96 [00:11] <{unimatrix}> mib_wa8wht , it all depends on what you prefere to play
#97 [00:11] <tjk> hello
#98 [00:11] <{unimatrix}> there are various gametypes out there
#99 [00:11] <hmw> mib_wa8wht: probably
#100 [00:11] <{unimatrix}> survival , pvp , creative
#101 [00:11] <hmw> tjk hi
#102 [00:11] <{unimatrix}> each with their own appeals and advantages
#103 [00:11] <mib_wa8wht> i wanted to play so bad before
#104 [00:11] <tjk> how do i access a private message>?
#105 [00:12] <{unimatrix}> lol
#106 [00:12] <SimenOlai> tjk :P
#107 [00:12] <mib_wa8wht> i didnt thhink there was a wait
#108 [00:12] <{unimatrix}> type /query {unimatrix}
#109 [00:12] <{unimatrix}> tjk
#110 [00:12] <{unimatrix}> it should open a window
#111 [00:12] <mib_wa8wht> and then i was like wat a party pooper
#112 [00:12] <SimenOlai> lol
#113 [00:12] <SimenOlai> are you named partypooper ingame? o.O
#114 [00:13] <mib_wa8wht> nah my name is dumcrafter1299
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#116 [00:13] <SimenOlai> aw:(
#117 [00:13] <mib_wa8wht> lol
#118 [00:13] <SimenOlai> i had a guy on my server named partypooper around that
#119 [00:13] <SimenOlai> xD
#120 [00:13] <mib_wa8wht> i want to build stuff and craft AHHHHH
#121 [00:13] <SimenOlai> creeper?
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#123 [00:14] <hmw> tjk: there will be a tab at the top of the chat with the name of the person, who sent you a PM
#124 [00:14] <SimenOlai> hm
#125 [00:14] <SimenOlai> GreyVulpine,
#126 [00:14] <mib_wa8wht> hi swear my house has ghost that come out at 12pm
#127 [00:14] <SimenOlai> morning rush incoming :P
#128 [00:14] <SimenOlai> cool mib_wa8wht
#129 [00:14] <Kealper> SimenOlai: your help to noise ratio is quite high... i'd suggest keeping a bit less talkative about random things while peopel are getting help
#130 [00:14] <hmw> Mibbit looks nice at a first glance
#131 [00:14] <mib_wa8wht> not rlly
#132 [00:14] <xales> hmw: lol
#133 [00:14] <mib_wa8wht> scares the crap out of me
#134 [00:15] <SimenOlai> now mib_wa8wht dont go offtopic :P
#135 [00:15] <mib_wa8wht> lol
#136 [00:16] <SimenOlai> Kealper, why dont you tell mib_wa8wht that too? D:
#137 [00:16] <SimenOlai> he started it :)
#138 [00:16] <Kealper> hmw: it isn't bad if you just need to quickly get some help and don't know what IRC is... but if you know what IRC is and want to do anything other than talk, it's complete garbage
#139 [00:16] <hmw> SimenOlai: because YOU forgot to take your Ritalin
#140 [00:16] <xales> ^
#141 [00:16] <SimenOlai> lol
#142 [00:16] <SimenOlai> hi xales
#143 [00:16] <hmw> Kealper: I see.
#144 [00:16] <mib_wa8wht> they rlly need to make verification for minecraft easier
#145 [00:17] <hmw> Kealper: I don't know IRC, obviously *G*
#146 [00:17] <Kealper> hmw: :P
#147 [00:17] <SimenOlai> mib_wa8wht, mojang cant control that :P
#148 [00:17] <mib_wa8wht> that sucks
#149 [00:17] <SimenOlai> mib_wa8wht, talk to paypal or visa or whatever you paid with about it :)
#150 [00:17] <mib_wa8wht> NOTCH CAN!!!
#151 [00:17] <SimenOlai> no he cant
#152 [00:17] <mib_wa8wht> awl
#153 [00:18] <SimenOlai> thats one of the few things he cant do
#154 [00:18] <mib_wa8wht> then who can
#155 [00:18] <SimenOlai> [06:17:39] <SimenOlai> mib_wa8wht, talk to paypal or visa or whatever you paid with about it :)
#156 [00:18] <SimenOlai> :P
#157 [00:19] <mib_wa8wht> yea im gonna call tommorow if it doesnt work
#158 [00:19] * Kealper wields his Mjolnir
#158 [00:19] <SimenOlai> or, just buy at evening before going to bed, and it may be done when you wake up
#159 [00:19] <mib_wa8wht> i did but it at like 7am
#160 [00:19] <SimenOlai> bad idea :P
#161 [00:19] <mib_wa8wht> y
#162 [00:19] <SimenOlai> so long wait time xD :P
#163 [00:20] <SimenOlai> because you are awake all time
#164 [00:20] <Kealper> SimenOlai: ehh...
#165 [00:20] <SimenOlai> if you sleep, it takes like few seconds :)
#166 [00:20] <SimenOlai> what Kealper ?
#167 [00:20] <SimenOlai> mib_wa8wht, brings me off topic all time, not my fault :D
#168 [00:20] <mib_wa8wht> well im going to sleep soon
#169 [00:21] <SimenOlai> me too
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#171 [00:21] <mib_wa8wht> better work tomorrow
#172 [00:21] <mib_wa8wht> !!!!!!!!
#173 [00:21] <Kealper> :|
#174 [00:21] <mib_wa8wht> they shouldve had a minecraft xmas sale
#175 [00:22] <SimenOlai> [06:08:31] <mib_wa8wht> its been over 3 hours ....................[06:19:33] <mib_wa8wht> i did but it at like 7am ................. [06:20:52] <mib_wa8wht> well im going to sleep soon
#176 [00:22] <SimenOlai> you go to bed around 10 am? :) :)
#177 [00:22] <mib_wa8wht> nahh
#178 [00:23] <mib_wa8wht> its 12pm here
#179 [00:23] <SimenOlai> D:
#180 [00:23] <mib_wa8wht> i mean am
#181 [00:23] <mib_wa8wht> maa bad
#182 [00:23] <Kealper> SimenOlai: time zones... it's 12:23 AM here right now...
#183 [00:23] <SimenOlai> ah
#184 [00:23] <SimenOlai> kealper
#185 [00:23] <mib_wa8wht> yea
#186 [00:23] <mib_wa8wht> same
#187 [00:23] <SimenOlai> did you see that message?
#188 [00:23] <mib_wa8wht> okkk im outti
#189 [00:23] <Kealper> what message?
#190 [00:24] <SimenOlai> its been over 3 hours.... i did but it at like 7 am
#191 [00:24] <mib_wa8wht> now hop in ma minivan lets get rowdy
#192 [00:24] <SimenOlai> 7 am + 3 = 10 am :D
#193 [00:24] <mib_wa8wht> lol
#194 [00:24] <mib_wa8wht> MATH
#195 [00:24] <SimenOlai> yeah
#196 [00:24] <SimenOlai> in holiday
#197 [00:24] <mib_wa8wht> see ya guys
#198 [00:24] <Kealper> :|
#199 [00:24] <mib_wa8wht> fH
#200 [00:24] <mib_wa8wht> thghzf
#201 [00:24] <mib_wa8wht> jt
#202 [00:24] * Kealper kicked mib_wa8wht from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_wa8wht :mib_wa8wht)
#203 [00:25] <SimenOlai> omg, just 1 week left of holiday :(
#204 [00:25] <SimenOlai> hmm, kealper?
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#206 [00:25] <Kealper> ?
#207 [00:25] <SimenOlai> its 12 am where you are now, right?
#208 [00:26] <Kealper> yes
#209 [00:26] <SimenOlai> thats gmt +7
#210 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> Um, no
#211 [00:26] <xales> GMT-5
#212 [00:26] <SimenOlai> -5 ?!?
#213 [00:26] <Kealper> that'd be 12PM if i was GMT +7
#214 [00:26] <Kealper> 12AM = midnight
#215 [00:26] <SimenOlai> ohhhhhhhhhhh
#216 [00:27] <SimenOlai> dumb me XD
#217 [00:27] * mib_zmg1lq [mib_zmg1lq@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#218 [00:27] <SimenOlai> soo, 12 am = midnight and 12 pm is morning 12?
#219 [00:27] <Kealper> 12PM is just noon
#220 [00:27] <SimenOlai> noon?
#221 [00:27] <SimenOlai> :D
#222 [00:28] <SimenOlai> noon = when moon gets up?
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#224 [00:28] * SimenOlai goes to google and searches for noon
#224 [00:28] <Kealper> oh...wait...do you use 24-hour time in Norway?
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#226 [00:29] <SimenOlai> like a baws
#227 [00:29] <SimenOlai> mhm
#228 [00:29] <hmw> I think whole Europe does
#229 [00:29] <Kealper> oh, well then
#230 [00:29] <SimenOlai> 12 am = 00..... 12pm = 12 ? :D
#231 [00:29] <Kealper> hmw: most of Europe, i think the Commonwealth still uses 12-hour
#232 [00:29] <Kealper> SimenOlai: yeah
#233 [00:29] <SimenOlai> still uses
#234 [00:29] <hmw> They are not Europe in my book *smirks*
#235 [00:29] <SimenOlai> that sounds bad xD
#236 [00:30] <SimenOlai> still uses :P
#237 [00:30] <SimenOlai> europe is way in front of you guys >:D
#238 [00:31] <Kealper> im frum 'merka, 'nd we dun take kindly to fanceh speakin'
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#240 [00:31] <SimenOlai> ?
#241 [00:31] <SimenOlai> :D
#242 [00:31] <Kealper> living in the USA is both my excuse for good grammar and bad grammar
#243 [00:32] <SimenOlai> lol
#244 [00:32] <hmw> how "good"?
#245 [00:32] <xales> Kealper: Krispy Kream!
#246 [00:32] * GreyVulpine kicks xales
#246 [00:32] * SimenOlai licks xales
#246 [00:32] <xales> US AMERICANS LIKE TO MANGLE OUR LANGUAGE
#247 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> Toys R us?
#248 [00:32] <Kealper> in my defence, if something doesn't sound like it fits, it's probably because that is how people say it around my area so it sounds fine to me D:
#249 [00:32] <SimenOlai> TOYS R US FTW!!!!!
#250 [00:32] <wastrel> america
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#253 [00:33] <xales> Kealper: Did I show you Tangent?
#254 [00:33] <Kealper> xales: si senor
#255 [00:33] <xales> Kealper: The one with .exec
#256 [00:34] <Kealper> si senor
#257 [00:34] <Kealper> well
#258 [00:34] <xales> I'm porting it to C
#259 [00:34] <SimenOlai> :O
#260 [00:34] <xales> and it's, uh
#261 [00:34] <SimenOlai> badass
#262 [00:34] <Kealper> the one where .exec would not work, yeah
#263 [00:34] <xales> "fun"
#264 [00:34] <quaddle> hello guys, I purchased minecraft yesterday and it said i did not have the prenium account but i can still play offline but other friends want to play minecraft with me and i cant because i dont have a prenium account, so can anyone tell me whats the problem.
#265 [00:34] <SimenOlai> i dont think anyone have prenium account :P
#266 [00:35] <Kealper> quaddle: i'd just say wait a few days, and if it is still like that, then email help@mojang.com
#267 [00:35] <rattle> Hey i got minecraft today and when i go to run it, it brings me to a black screen, please help
#268 [00:35] <quaddle> k thanks!
#269 [00:35] <Kealper> quaddle: since a TON of people got Minecraft for the holidays, minecraft.net has been struggling since the 25th :/
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#271 [00:35] <SimenOlai> since 25th ?
#272 [00:36] <sproing> is there a way that i can recieve a refund
#273 [00:36] <SimenOlai> why not since 24th ?
#274 [00:36] <Kealper> SimenOlai: :|
#275 [00:36] <quaddle> yeah the website has been crashing and its been way too slow.
#276 [00:36] <SimenOlai> why you want a refund sproing ? :P
#277 [00:36] <Kealper> sproing: generally they don't give refunds, but what's up?
#278 [00:36] <Kealper> quaddle: yeah, thank the gift of giving, for that one :/
#279 [00:37] <SimenOlai> i wonder
#280 [00:37] <SimenOlai> you get a tiny tiny tiny present under the tree
#281 [00:37] <sproing> i was under another name previously. im the kid with the brother that couldnt log in
#282 [00:37] <SimenOlai> when you opens, there are a little bit of paper with a minecraft gift code :P
#283 [00:37] <SimenOlai> when you open*
#284 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> SimenOlai - Again, "Is this something I want to post that'll help others in this current situation"
#285 [00:37] <Kealper> SimenOlai: your SWR is high
#286 [00:37] <SimenOlai> wonder how that is :)
#287 [00:38] <SimenOlai> sorry :(
#288 [00:38] * SimenOlai slaps him self multiple times
#288 [00:38] <sproing> i just don't think it's for him, please help me.
#289 [00:39] <SimenOlai> why dont you think its for him?
#290 [00:39] <sproing> our computer is too slow.
#291 [00:39] <hmw> sproing: minecraft.net/support says, they do not give refunds
#292 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> sproing - Mojang's current refund policy can be found at http://www.minecraft.net/support -> Under Payment -> refunds
#293 [00:40] <quaddle> another question i wanted to ask is that for christmas i got a hp pavillion laptop and i was wondering if i can download tf2 without my computer running slow.
#294 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> This is not TF2 support.
#295 [00:40] <quaddle> srry
#296 [00:40] <SimenOlai> you tell him GreyVulpine !
#297 [00:40] <Kealper> SimenOlai: SWR....
#298 [00:40] <SimenOlai> im so overtired
#299 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> Also, HP has many pavilion models. You'll need to provide somebody else with more information than that
#300 [00:41] <SimenOlai> i dont think good
#301 [00:41] <quaddle> k
#302 [00:41] <SimenOlai> i think i go to bed at 7am
#303 [00:42] * Kealper would like to take the time to point out that it is a good idea to read the channel rules at http://u.kealper.com/rules
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#304 [00:42] <Graversimen> a link :P
#305 [00:43] <SimenOlai> wtf, in browser it showed as a mib nick, here it shows as graversimen?
#306 [00:43] <SimenOlai> wtf
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#308 [00:48] <SimenOlai> blah
#309 [00:48] <SimenOlai> i go to bed now
#310 [00:48] <SimenOlai> Good Night everyone
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#312 [00:49] <Jeremy-HELP> hey i need help
#313 [00:49] * mib_j7jw7t [mib_j7jw7t@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#314 [00:49] <Jeremy-HELP> can some one help me
#315 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> With?
#316 [00:50] <Jeremy-HELP> i keep getting a error when i load a map
#317 [00:50] <Jeremy-HELP> i just transfered over to a new comp
#318 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> Does it occur on just that map, or all maps? Have you tried making a new map?
#319 [00:50] <Jeremy-HELP> sec ill try
#320 [00:51] <mib_j7jw7t> Hey, I am trying to download and it always times out so I can't download
#321 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_j7jw7t - Times out how?
#322 [00:51] <SimenOlai_Bed> minecraft.net
#323 [00:51] <SimenOlai_Bed> times out, takes too long to load :P
#324 [00:51] <Jeremy-HELP> thats really wierd
#325 [00:52] <Jeremy-HELP> ive played in this map
#326 [00:52] <Jeremy-HELP> on my other computer
#327 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> SimenOlai_Bed - Please allow the person to answer themselves.
#328 [00:52] <SimenOlai_Bed> ok
#329 [00:52] <Jeremy-HELP> but ya i made a map and it seem to work fine
#330 [00:52] <SimenOlai_Bed> then im off to bed
#331 [00:52] <SimenOlai_Bed> Good Night everyone!
#332 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Jeremy-HELP - Then there's something wrong with that map. Did you use any mods?
#333 [00:52] <mib_j7jw7t> I log in and then it says...
#334 [00:52] <Jeremy-HELP> no its a complete legit map
#335 [00:53] <Jeremy-HELP> Hmm
#336 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Jeremy-HELP - I understand that, but did you install any mods for minecraft on your other computer?
#337 [00:53] <Jeremy-HELP> o no
#338 [00:53] <mib_j7jw7t> It just says connection timed out.
#339 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> mib_j7jw7t - Could you provide us with a screenshot of this?
#340 [00:53] <mib_j7jw7t> And it wouldn't let me log in
#341 [00:54] <mib_j7jw7t> No...
#342 [00:54] <Jeremy-HELP> thats wierd
#343 [00:54] <Jeremy-HELP> i gonna try something
#344 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> mib_j7jw7t - Do you know how to take a screenshot?
#345 [00:55] <hmw> Jeremy-HELP: what is the error message? Perhaps use pastebin.com, if it is longer
#346 [00:55] <Jeremy-HELP> it doesnt show it goes away really fast
#347 [00:56] <Wug> :ts/launcher > Jeremy-HELP
#348 [00:56] <WugBot> Jeremy-HELP: (ts/launcher) Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#349 [00:56] <WugBot> Jeremy-HELP: (ts/launcher) Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#350 [00:56] <Wug> try using that launcher, which saves a log file
#351 [00:57] <Wug> if something is going wrong it will show up in the log
#352 [00:58] <Jeremy-HELP> i already have it
#353 [00:58] <Jeremy-HELP> lol
#354 [00:58] <Jeremy-HELP> one second while i try that
#355 [00:59] <mib_j7jw7t> <html><body><font color= "#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect </center></font></body></html>
#356 [01:00] <mib_j7jw7t> that is what it says
#357 [01:00] <mib_j7jw7t> so....
#358 [01:00] <Wug> mib_j7jw7t: looks like interference from a firewall
#359 [01:00] <Jeremy-HELP> i think i found a way to solve it
#360 [01:01] <Jeremy-HELP> there is a problem with one of the world files
#361 [01:01] <mib_j7jw7t> okat.
#362 [01:05] <mib_j7jw7t> Do you know what I can adjust cause I have no clue
#363 [01:06] <mib_j7jw7t> I went through and it said nothing was being blocke
#364 [01:06] <mib_j7jw7t> d
#365 [01:07] <mib_j7jw7t> Also it says it Can't connect too minecraft.net
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#367 [01:08] <mib_j7jw7t> ...
#368 [01:08] <Vros> hello
#369 [01:08] <Vros> I'm in need of help
#370 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_j7jw7t - Do you have java 6 or 7 installed on your machine?
#371 [01:09] <Jeremy-HELP> alright i tried a different version of my map and it works
#372 [01:09] <mib_j7jw7t> I think.I downloaded it today off Oracle
#373 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_j7jw7t - Could you check which version you downloaded?
#374 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Vros - Could you elaborate?
#375 [01:09] <{unimatrix}> GreyVulpine
#376 [01:09] <{unimatrix}> pm meow
#377 [01:09] <Jeremy-HELP> thank god for back ups
#378 [01:10] <mib_j7jw7t> jre 7
#379 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_j7jw7t - Uninstall 7, reinstall 6.
#380 [01:11] <Vros> I'm trying to destroy blocks to gain resources on a server, but i can't destroy anything. I cannot even interact with other items, except hitting mobs. That's all i can do, along with collecting and dropping items that have already beeen destroyed
#381 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Vros - You've travelled away from spawn, yes?
#382 [01:11] <Vros> yes
#383 [01:11] <Vros> plenty of times, mind you
#384 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Vros - Know of this server has any sort of special permissions system set up?
#385 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried other servers?
#386 [01:12] <Vros> ranks, and no
#387 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> s/of/if
#388 [01:12] <Vros> huh?
#389 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps that particular server has it so guests and other people can't destroy blocks
#390 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Try other servers, if you can destroy blocks there, it's the server blocking you
#391 [01:13] <Vros> ok then. Thank you. I shall be back if this persists.
#392 [01:13] <mib_j7jw7t> sorry to waste your time but I think I will just figure this out...
#393 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_j7jw7t - It's java 7 which is..
#394 [01:13] * GreyVulpine pffts
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#395 [01:18] <Wug> GreyVulpine: because we have all been here for months
#396 [01:18] <Wug> why would we ever know the unexpected solution to a common problem like that
#397 [01:18] <{unimatrix}> vros
#398 [01:18] <{unimatrix}> type /plugins for me will ya
#399 [01:18] <{unimatrix}> oh he left
#400 [01:19] <{unimatrix}> 9/10 its a bukkit server with building perms turned off
#401 [01:19] <{unimatrix}> for new users
#402 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> Can new users tell if they don't have building perms on the server?
#403 [01:19] <{unimatrix}> usualy yes
#404 [01:19] <{unimatrix}> either by reading what spawn sais
#405 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> News to me.
#406 [01:20] <{unimatrix}> or by the inability to break
#407 [01:20] <{unimatrix}> place
#408 [01:20] <{unimatrix}> or kill
#409 [01:20] * GreyVulpine kicks Vox
#409 [01:20] <{unimatrix}> god i should stop hitting that enter button so much :p
#410 [01:20] <{unimatrix}> it all depends on the server configuration really
#411 [01:21] <{unimatrix}> each server has its way of dealing with new people / or griefers
#412 [01:21] <{unimatrix}> having a no destroy/place policy is one way
#413 [01:21] <{unimatrix}> which can be caused by towny or the permission plugin itself
#414 [01:21] <{unimatrix}> hence why i wanted him to type /plugins
#415 [01:22] <{unimatrix}> it would indicate alot to me why he couldnt break
#416 [01:23] <{unimatrix}> and if people say they cant move
#417 [01:23] <{unimatrix}> its because of a plugin that does server side authentication
#418 [01:23] <{unimatrix}> by typing /register or paying attention to the messages when they join the server
#419 [01:23] <{unimatrix}> they can fix it themselves
#420 [01:23] * GreyVulpine nods
#420 [01:23] * {unimatrix} feels like hes giving a bukkit introduction course haha
#420 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> I could use it..
#421 [01:24] * GreyVulpine spends way too much time here, and not enough time actually playing around with minecraft anymore.
#421 [01:24] <{unimatrix}> wel
#422 [01:24] <{unimatrix}> i can help you with that
#423 [01:24] <{unimatrix}> you tell me what you want your mc server to be like
#424 [01:24] <{unimatrix}> and ill recommend how to set it up
#425 [01:24] <{unimatrix}> and guide you to the right posts/guides/etc
#426 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> nah, we run our own minecraft server at mc.minecraftirc.net, courtesy of Scott and his AG crew.
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#428 [01:25] <{unimatrix}> uhu
#429 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> Newly created, hasn't really been given out to the public yet.
#430 [01:25] <{unimatrix}> and what direction do you wanna go out with it
#431 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> No idea yet
#432 [01:25] <{unimatrix}> creative/survival/pvp/chaos?
#433 [01:25] <Scott> Multi
#434 [01:25] <{unimatrix}> ok
#435 [01:25] <Scott> Kealper and I need to work on it.
#436 [01:25] <{unimatrix}> you will need bukkit , multiverse
#437 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> We have bukkit
#438 [01:25] <{unimatrix}> permissionex , commandbook
#439 [01:25] <{unimatrix}> multihome
#440 [01:25] <{unimatrix}> stargate
#441 [01:25] * GreyVulpine twitches
#441 [01:25] <Scott> No we use PermissionsBukkit.
#442 [01:26] <Scott> We won't be using commandbook/essentials/etc.
#443 [01:26] <{unimatrix}> or permissionbukkit , doesnt matter we all prefere our own perm system
#444 [01:26] <{unimatrix}> will you be having a creative and a survival world?
#445 [01:26] <Scott> That is the plan.
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#447 [01:26] <{unimatrix}> i should read up on bperm if you can specify a perm for each world
#448 [01:27] <{unimatrix}> anyhow , i would recommend multihome and stargate
#449 [01:27] <{unimatrix}> and perhaps the voxeltools for the creative world
#450 [01:27] <Kealper> since i've never messed with multiverse... can you have a creative world and a survival world in that?
#451 [01:27] <{unimatrix}> yes
#452 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> stargate = transport via portals, what's multihome do?
#453 [01:27] <{unimatrix}> multihome is where you can set multiple homes
#454 [01:27] <{unimatrix}> like warps
#455 [01:27] <Kealper> and there is worldedit
#456 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Oh.. I see.
#457 [01:27] <Kealper> already on it, that is
#458 [01:28] <{unimatrix}> also get worldguard
#459 [01:28] <{unimatrix}> if you wanna nerf fire , tnt etc...
#460 [01:28] <{unimatrix}> creepers exploding
#461 [01:28] <Kealper> yep, worldguard and worldedit are both on it
#462 [01:28] <{unimatrix}> either get logblock or big brother
#463 [01:28] <{unimatrix}> the best anti griefing tools out there
#464 [01:28] <{unimatrix}> both require sql though
#465 [01:29] <{unimatrix}> as they log each blok a player breaks/places etc.
#466 [01:29] <{unimatrix}> logs chests and other goodies
#467 [01:29] <Kealper> logging each block edit just sounds like a pain in the butt and sounds like it'd be expensive for ram :/
#468 [01:29] <GreyVulpine> Yikes, doesn't that get ex... ^
#469 [01:29] <{unimatrix}> it doesnt
#470 [01:29] <{unimatrix}> how many players are you aiming for as in slotwise?
#471 [01:29] <Scott> We can expand as needed.
#472 [01:30] <{unimatrix}> but whats the slotsize
#473 [01:30] <{unimatrix}> you are gooing to have
#474 [01:30] <xales> 9999
#475 [01:30] <Kealper> right now it's at 50
#476 [01:30] <Scott> As many players as we consistently have.
#477 [01:30] <GreyVulpine> With the amount of traffic we've sent to s.nerd.nu, and smp.shadow-craft.net over the past year...
#478 [01:30] <{unimatrix}> ram ?
#479 [01:30] <xales> {unimatrix}: 1TB
#480 [01:30] <Scott> 2GB right now.
#481 [01:30] <xales> (Not really).
#482 [01:30] <{unimatrix}> 1TB of ram ?
#483 [01:30] <{unimatrix}> umm
#484 [01:30] * GreyVulpine snrks
#484 [01:30] <{unimatrix}> may i recommend lowering the slots then
#485 [01:30] <{unimatrix}> if you only have 1 GB
#486 [01:30] <{unimatrix}> 2 GB
#487 [01:30] <{unimatrix}> sorry :p
#488 [01:30] <Scott> We haven't tested capacity yet.
#489 [01:31] <xales> Scott: Also, Wug and I may have come up with why Minecraft uses such a fuckton of RAM and doesn't let it go
#490 [01:31] <{unimatrix}> it will never reach 50
#491 [01:31] <Scott> But we had 6 players on with 200mb in use :)
#492 [01:31] <xales> I've been considering rewriting the server, or possibly just the part that's the most busted
#493 [01:31] <{unimatrix}> and how big is your world?
#494 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> Newly created, about 100megs last I saw..
#495 [01:31] <{unimatrix}> thats why it only used 200 MB
#496 [01:31] <Wug> xales: whudido
#497 [01:31] <Scott> Anyways, we haven't bothered to do testing yet.
#498 [01:32] <Scott> I can add more ram as needed.
#499 [01:32] <Kealper> that goes again with the "adjusted with demand" sort of thing though... i don't think anyone expects it to have 50 people
#500 [01:32] <{unimatrix}> ok
#501 [01:32] <xales> Wug: Sicced me on the stack fragmentation
#502 [01:32] <{unimatrix}> but i would highly recommend logblock/big brother
#503 [01:32] <{unimatrix}> and i would recommend Mcbans aswell
#504 [01:32] <{unimatrix}> just to keep the griefers out
#505 [01:32] <Wug> othat
#506 [01:32] <Scott> You can't build without being approved.
#507 [01:32] <Wug> its not so much why it takes so much
#508 [01:32] <Scott> We will check the multiple ban logging sites.
#509 [01:33] <Wug> its more why there is so much memory overhead
#510 [01:33] <xales> Wug: Actually, it -should- go way down if it's implemented correctly
#511 [01:33] <{unimatrix}> mcbouncer & glizer doesnt have the userbase mcbans has
#512 [01:33] <{unimatrix}> with over 500.000 connections each day
#513 [01:33] <Scott> I don't see the need for either.
#514 [01:33] <xales> Wug: The problem is that it's allocating each block separately, wasing pages
#515 [01:33] <Scott> I don't really like mcbans anyways.
#516 [01:33] <xales> (Or so I think)
#517 [01:33] <{unimatrix}> and why is that scott
#518 [01:33] <Scott> Multiple reasons.
#519 [01:33] <Scott> I'm going to bed.
#520 [01:33] <Kealper> also what Scott said again, although it isn't whitelisted, (anyone can get on to just look around) people need to apply and be hand-approved to actually build on it
#521 [01:34] <Wug> xales: its not that bad, blocks are singletons
#522 [01:34] <Wug> its entities that really kill things
#523 [01:34] <{unimatrix}> Kealper , people who grief have patience to get accepted
#524 [01:34] <{unimatrix}> and then totaly whipe out your map
#525 [01:34] <xales> Wug: Not talking about block-blocks, lol
#526 [01:34] <{unimatrix}> if you would get alteast logblock/bigbrother then you could fix the damage
#527 [01:34] <Scott> {unimatrix}: restore from backup or undo with logblock.
#528 [01:34] <{unimatrix}> that you dont wish to use mcbans , thats your problem/decision
#529 [01:35] <{unimatrix}> indeed
#530 [01:35] <Scott> We don't want uneeded plugins.
#531 [01:35] <Scott> unneeded rather.
#532 [01:35] <xales> {unimatrix}: We are fairly...hardcore with administrating (if you haven't noticed)
#533 [01:35] <{unimatrix}> i have noticed
#534 [01:35] <xales> Scott will just set up a bridge bot that I can ban through, and expect me to deal with things.
#535 [01:35] <{unimatrix}> and im giving you my experiance
#536 [01:35] <xales> Just wait for it!
#537 [01:35] <Kealper> ^
#538 [01:35] <{unimatrix}> you can use craftirc for that xales
#539 [01:36] <Scott> afkbai
#540 [01:36] <{unimatrix}> no need for a custom bot to be build
#541 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> Laters Scott
#542 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> Thought craftIRC hasn't been updated yet
#543 [01:36] <Kealper> Scott: tomorrow... get a chat bot in #mcserver D:
#544 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> Or that was the word a few days ago
#545 [01:36] <{unimatrix}> there are alternatives to craftirc GreyVulpine
#546 [01:36] <{unimatrix}> i would need to check myself which one that works
#547 [01:36] <Kealper> does MCMA have a chat bot plugin?
#548 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> I lurk in #bukkit as well, and craftIRC was mentioned to be out of date, last I checked
#549 [01:37] <{unimatrix}> mcmyadmin?
#550 [01:37] <{unimatrix}> i wouldnt use that if i were you
#551 [01:37] <{unimatrix}> altough it is easy to setup
#552 [01:37] <{unimatrix}> it limits you to a series of plugins
#553 [01:37] <Kealper> well you arn't me so...
#554 [01:37] <{unimatrix}> that only mcmyadmin supports
#555 [01:37] <Jeremy-HELP> hey what language are bukkit plugins writen in
#556 [01:37] <{unimatrix}> java
#557 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> Java, mostly
#558 [01:37] <xales> {unimatrix}: We know Phonic pretty well >.>
#559 [01:38] <Jeremy-HELP> bummer
#560 [01:38] <xales> Jeremy-HELP: It really is
#561 [01:38] <Jeremy-HELP> i dont know any java
#562 [01:38] <{unimatrix}> here is a fun fact xales
#563 [01:38] <Jeremy-HELP> makes me want to learn it tho
#564 [01:38] <{unimatrix}> none of the larger mc servers use mcmyadmin
#565 [01:38] <{unimatrix}> there is a reason for that
#566 [01:38] <{unimatrix}> he has a decent system if you dont know how to setup a server
#567 [01:39] <{unimatrix}> but tweaking your server is harder trough mcmyadmin then it is without it
#568 [01:39] <Jeremy-HELP> hey just a wonder is bukkit gonna be come part of mojang
#569 [01:39] <xales> {unimatrix}: As long as it does what we need, we don't really care
#570 [01:39] <xales> And, so far, it does
#571 [01:39] <Kealper> Jeremy-HELP: most likely not
#572 [01:39] <xales> Kealper: actually...
#573 [01:40] <Jeremy-HELP> would be a great patnership
#574 [01:40] <{unimatrix}> doubt bukkit would do that
#575 [01:40] <hmw> Is Bukkit actually a rewrite or more a "mod"?
#576 [01:40] <{unimatrix}> and doubt notch would do it either
#577 [01:40] <xales> hmw: Both
#578 [01:40] <{unimatrix}> they have a working relationship
#579 [01:40] <hmw> i see
#580 [01:40] <{unimatrix}> but i doubt it would go further then that
#581 [01:40] <Kealper> {unimatrix}: it provides an easy web administration panel that can be used to tweak basic things on-the-fly right from the browser, and that's exactly what we use it for, and that's exactly what it works good as
#582 [01:40] <{unimatrix}> true
#583 [01:41] <{unimatrix}> there are alternatives which enable you more freedom
#584 [01:41] <Jeremy-HELP> isnt jeb working on making it easyier people to install mods
#585 [01:41] <Jeremy-HELP> or wat ever
#586 [01:41] <{unimatrix}> but again , it is as you say what you need is best
#587 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> A mod API was still in the works..
#588 [01:41] <Jeremy-HELP> some mod api thing
#589 [01:41] <Jeremy-HELP> ya there smart for doing that
#590 [01:41] * GreyVulpine hasn't heard anything about the mod API for a few months now
#590 [01:41] <{unimatrix}> something like rrootkit
#591 [01:41] <{unimatrix}> not gui based but cli based
#592 [01:41] <{unimatrix}> works similar
#593 [01:42] <{unimatrix}> im a big fan of cli :p
#594 [01:42] <Jeremy-HELP> btw i got my map working
#595 [01:42] <Jeremy-HELP> well sorta
#596 [01:42] <xales> {unimatrix}: We want it to be web-based for a reason: it's usable on mobile devices, where I don't have my keychain, etcetera
#597 [01:42] <{unimatrix}> ofc
#598 [01:42] <Jeremy-HELP> i found a back up that worked
#599 [01:42] <{unimatrix}> but for multiverse
#600 [01:42] <{unimatrix}> get the one from bukkit dev
#601 [01:42] * Kealper is a big fan of things working without hastle.. be it cli or gui
#601 [01:43] <{unimatrix}> you can setup dif worlds
#602 [01:43] <{unimatrix}> creative/survival/skylands
#603 [01:43] <Jeremy-HELP> any one played mc pocket
#604 [01:43] <{unimatrix}> ./mvcreate name type
#605 [01:43] <{unimatrix}> is the cmd
#606 [01:43] <{unimatrix}> will create a new world for you from ingame
#607 [01:43] <{unimatrix}> if you have the permissions
#608 [01:43] <Jeremy-HELP> has any one played minecraft pocket
#609 [01:44] <Kealper> Jeremy-HELP: no, but i'm curious as to whether it'll run on a Kindle Fire though
#610 [01:44] <Jeremy-HELP> once i get a android im thinking about buying it
#611 [01:44] <Jeremy-HELP> i got to buy minecraft for my comp first tho
#612 [01:44] <Jeremy-HELP> :/
#613 [01:45] <Kealper> actually
#614 [01:45] <Kealper> brb while i register my mom's Fire to my google account
#615 [01:45] <xales> ._.
#616 [01:45] <Jeremy-HELP> lol
#617 [01:46] <Jeremy-HELP> hows this who has played minicraft
#618 [01:47] <Kealper> i think just about everyone in this channel
#619 [01:47] <{unimatrix}> wel not the bots
#620 [01:47] * xales nope
#620 [01:47] <{unimatrix}> they havent played minecraft
#621 [01:47] <Kealper> !paid AuBot
#622 [01:47] <xales> !paid AuBot
#623 [01:47] <xales> Kealper: I think it's broked
#624 [01:47] <Kealper> figures..... minecraft.net is dumb again
#625 [01:48] <{unimatrix}> is the bot hosted in usa?
#626 [01:48] <{unimatrix}> cause im having no issues with mc.net
#627 [01:48] <Kealper> but yeah, even AuBot has played Minecraft D:
#628 [01:50] <Kealper> dis Kindle Fire is nais
#629 [01:50] <Kealper> it and it's dual core 1ghz cpu D:
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#631 [01:51] <xales> :>
#632 [01:51] <xales> .exec reply("Hi, Kealper.")
#633 [01:51] <Tangent> xales: Hi, Kealper.
#634 [01:51] <Kealper> C or Go?
#635 [01:51] * GreyVulpine spies a new bot, gets out RPG.
#635 [01:52] <xales> Kealper: Go, of course
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#637 [01:52] <xales> the C port is a *long* way off
#638 [01:52] <Kealper> lol
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#640 [01:52] <xales> it's also going to use a VM
#641 [01:52] <xales> not step through an AST
#642 [01:54] <Kealper> hmm... i wonder if the Fire has a GPS radio in it...
#643 [01:55] <{unimatrix}> ffs
#644 [01:55] <{unimatrix}> i was gona check a movie like 6 hours ago
#645 [01:55] <{unimatrix}> but this channel lures me
#646 [01:56] <xales> Kealper: Remember how I said my brother got sucked into Minecraft?
#647 [01:56] <xales> Well, I bought him Saints Row >.>
#648 [01:56] <Kealper> lol
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#652 [02:07] <pachuco> hello
#653 [02:08] <hmw> 21 seconds.
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#659 [02:34] <mib_gvzp4l> sup
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#661 [02:36] <shannonlasell> quick and hopefully easy question. can someone point me in the direction of getting started with minecraft. i would like to try it before i buy it
#662 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> ?? demo
#663 [02:36] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#664 [02:36] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#665 [02:37] <shannonlasell> thank you very much
#666 [02:37] <shannonlasell> what is the cost?
#667 [02:37] <shannonlasell> american dollars
#668 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> Full version is 20 euros, or 26.95 USD
#669 [02:37] <shannonlasell> thank you
#670 [02:38] <SinZ> I wish when you attack mobs legs, they get dmg
#671 [02:50] <shannonlasell> since this is my first time playing and im playing the demo. do you think it would be a better experience learning on my own with no tutorials or read up to get a good idea if i want to play?
#672 [02:51] <SinZ> no tutorials all the way <3
#673 [02:51] <hmw> You will miss the opportunity to find things out yourself
#674 [02:51] <SinZ> I only look up tutorials for some interesting redstone stuff
#675 [02:51] <hmw> I love the way, MC does item crafting
#676 [02:52] <shannonlasell> i think you are correct =)
#677 [02:52] <hmw> I admit, I read quite a lot in the wiki :( stupid
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#679 [02:55] <hmw> shannonlasell: perhaps a tutorial to survive the first night in minecraft
#680 [02:56] <shannonlasell> omg im going to have to buy this before the demo runs out already
#681 [02:56] <shannonlasell> i knew i shouldn't have started this
#682 [02:56] * GreyVulpine murmurs, "Joooin Usss...."
#682 [02:56] <SinZ> Survive first night, Get wood, get coal, make shelter, either in a mountain side or free standing
#683 [02:57] <shannonlasell> i lost all my stuffs!!!!! i have to go find where i died don't i?
#684 [02:57] <SinZ> yep
#685 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> Yup.
#686 [02:57] <SinZ> you dont drop XP when you die
#687 [02:57] <SinZ> so once you die, gotta get all the xp all over again
#688 [02:57] <shannonlasell> but there is spiders there. i don't like them.
#689 [03:00] <Wug> GreyVulpine: you dont watch mlp do you
#690 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> mlp?
#691 [03:00] <Wug> if you dont know what it is you probably dont
#692 [03:00] <Wug> thank god
#693 [03:00] <SinZ> ^
#694 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> Do.. I want to know?
#695 [03:01] <Wug> I thought for a second I was going to have to burninate everything
#696 [03:01] <Wug> stands for my little pony
#697 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> my.. little ..
#698 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> ah
#699 [03:01] <SinZ> oh god...
#700 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> No, no I do not.
#701 [03:01] <shannonlasell> game is epic. im sold.
#702 [03:01] <Calinou> you drop half of your XP
#703 [03:01] <shannonlasell> how do you check your xp?
#704 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> shannonlasell - Over 4 milliion other people agree with you
#705 [03:02] <Calinou> <SinZ> I wish when you attack mobs legs, they get dmg
#706 [03:02] <Calinou> that bug is multiplayer only
#707 [03:02] <SinZ> I only play multiplayer...
#708 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> shannonlasell - It'a green bar near your health.
#709 [03:02] <Calinou> check the green bar - the higher is your level, the harder it is to achieve new levels (they require more xp)
#710 [03:02] <Wug> shannonlasell: its the bar on the bottom that probably isnt there in the beta, right above the item hotbar
#711 [03:02] <Calinou> SinZ: me too :P
#712 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> Don't know if XP was implemented in 1.5.
#713 [03:02] <SinZ> Calinou: in multiplayer you dont drop any xp
#714 [03:02] <shannonlasell> don't think i have one in the demo
#715 [03:02] <Wug> demo* not beta
#716 [03:02] <Calinou> I remember doing so. maybe this only happens on bukkit servers since it's a bugfix
#717 [03:02] <SinZ> beta is 1.5 I think
#718 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> shannonlasell - The demo that you're playing, is pretty old. Is beta 1.5.
#719 [03:03] <shannonlasell> thats ok
#720 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> There's been plenty of new items and blocks since the demo.
#721 [03:03] <Calinou> xp was implemented in 1.8 with no use and being linear, 1.9-pre3 for real usable XP
#722 [03:03] <Wug> the factoid lies, its not 1.8
#723 [03:03] <shannonlasell> i rather be playing bafck when others were playing before i get right into it
#724 [03:03] <Wug> :demo
#725 [03:03] <WugBot> demo: Minecraft has a (somewhat outdated) demo available (last updated for 1.8.1). PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#726 [03:03] <WugBot> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#727 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, the demo is not running 1.8.1
#728 [03:04] <Wug> ;~ demo Minecraft has a (somewhat outdated) demo available. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.;;Article and Download Link: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/
#729 [03:04] <WugBot> Done.
#730 [03:04] <Wug> ?? demo
#731 [03:04] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#732 [03:04] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#733 [03:04] <Wug> lol
#734 [03:04] <Wug> ;long http://is.gd/l507ow
#735 [03:04] <WugBot> http://is.gd/l507ow --> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Minecraft+Demo&l=1
#736 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> need to edit that direct download link as well
#737 [03:05] <Wug> its a shame ;long doesnt work on adfly links
#738 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> Could swear I started that FAQ with the correct URL for the direct link
#739 [03:05] <shannonlasell> so you basically clear areas and build a house and live a real life only there isn't any curves.
#740 [03:05] <Wug> Ill have to add that sometime
#741 [03:05] <hmw> heheh wug
#742 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> shannonlasell - Minecraft is what you want it to be. It's like playing with legos
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#744 [03:06] <hmw> i like the shortlink
#745 [03:06] <shannonlasell> "Yessssssssss"
#746 [03:06] <Wug> still cant use /me on mc.minecraftirc.net
#747 [03:06] * Wug sets fire to VoxelHead
#747 [03:07] <mib_k2xzjq> How can you play minecraft online without purchasing it
#748 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> You cannot
#749 [03:07] <mib_k2xzjq> how come
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#751 [03:07] <Wug> mib_k2xzjq: minecraft is not free
#752 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is a paid for game. You cannot play minecraft for free.
#753 [03:07] <mib_k2xzjq> how much is it
#754 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> There is a free outdated version of minecraft available on the website, but it's the creative mode of minecraft
#755 [03:08] <Wug> 20 euros
#756 [03:08] <Wug> which is like $26.95 or something
#757 [03:08] <Wug> somewhere in the vicinity of 12 GBPs
#758 [03:08] <mib_k2xzjq> how do you get to the outdated one
#759 [03:08] <Wug> :classic
#760 [03:08] <SinZ> its called minecr-
#761 [03:08] <Wug> :play/classic
#762 [03:08] <WugBot> play/classic: Minecraft Classic is free to play. You can play online here: http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play
#763 [03:08] <WugBot> play/classic: You must have a minecraft account to save your worlds and and use multiplayer. Registering an account is free, see :mc/register for more details.
#764 [03:08] <mib_z4w3yy> Can i have help
#765 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_z4w3yy - With?
#766 [03:09] <mib_z4w3yy> i installed mo creatures then minecraff crashed
#767 [03:09] <SinZ> No mod support
#768 [03:09] <mib_z4w3yy> like what
#769 [03:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_z4w3yy - Delete everything in your .minecraft folder except for saves. Then run minecraft again
#770 [03:09] <mib_z4w3yy> ok i will try
#771 [03:10] <Wug> GreyVulpine: for the most part, if its a failed mod installation, :fu will be sufficient
#772 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> Mo creatures requires modloader, and other APIs.
#773 [03:10] <Wug> sometimes it doesnt work though
#774 [03:10] <Wug> usually when they try to mod the launcher :P
#775 [03:10] <mib_z4w3yy> i have gui modloader and aduiomod
#776 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> Wug - I had somebody on a few weeks ago. tried to update modloader. Force updated, only to find out (Through teamviewer), that they still had outdated mods in the /mods/ folder
#777 [03:11] <Wug> after force updating it will work anyway. it would only begin to derp after the reinstallation of modloader
#778 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> Yeah..
#779 [03:11] <Wug> I'm going to ask jeb to add a version field to the Minecraft class
#780 [03:12] <Wug> so mods can check if the version is correct and yell and scream and complain if it is not
#781 [03:12] <Wug> why it doesnt already have one, I do not know
#782 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> Forthcoming in the so called Mod API?
#783 [03:12] <Wug> hopefully
#784 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> Whenever that'll be?
#785 [03:12] <Wug> *ever that will be
#786 [03:12] <SinZ> Mod API is getting run by Bukkit isnt it
#787 [03:12] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#787 [03:13] <mib_z4w3yy> would the problem be that mo creatures was 1.0.0 and the GUI was 1.8.1?\
#788 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> I haven't heard anything about the API for a few months now
#789 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_z4w3yy - Yes.
#790 [03:13] <Wug> mib_z4w3yy: yep, you must use all up to date mods
#791 [03:13] <Wug> they do not work with older or newer versions of minecraft
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#793 [03:13] <mib_z4w3yy> ok do you know when it will be up to date
#794 [03:14] <Wug> mib_z4w3yy: it probably already is, check the forums
#795 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> the guiapi? It's updated for 1.0.-0
#796 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> Check http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/81771-v100-mo-creatures-v31-with-goats-jellyfish-mantarays-and-stingrays/
#797 [03:14] <Wug> ;+ mlp the stupidest thing since CD rewinders
#798 [03:14] <WugBot> Done.
#799 [03:14] * GreyVulpine snrks
#799 [03:15] <mib_z4w3yy> i delete everything exect saves and it worked thanks
#800 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> !check mc.minecraftirc.net
#801 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> ;check mc.minecraftirc.net
#802 [03:18] <WugBot> mc.minecraftirc.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: The Official Minecraft IRC Server (1/50)
#803 [03:19] <Wug> jovet is online
#804 [03:19] <Wug> I think
#805 [03:19] <Wug> I was a minute ago
#806 [03:19] <SinZ> `mclist mc.minecraftirc.net 25565
#807 [03:19] <SinZ> `say hi
#808 [03:19] <SinZ> oright
#809 [03:20] <SinZBot> Cannot connect to udp://mc.minecraftirc.net:25565.
#810 [03:20] <SinZBot> hi
#811 [03:20] <SinZ> aww
#812 [03:20] <SinZ> no query =(
#813 [03:21] <Wug> you should reduce the wait time if the connection times out
#814 [03:21] <Wug> I disabled ;haspaid on wugbot because I forgot
#815 [03:21] <Wug> and if someone does it when minecraft.net is down or otherwise borked it renders the bot unresponsive for about 2 minutes
#816 [03:21] * GreyVulpine snrks
#816 [03:22] <Wug> you know what
#817 [03:22] * Wug vnc
#817 [03:22] <SinZ> lucky the actual query is in python, so I can update it without restarting bot
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#819 [03:25] <shannonlasell> my axe broke?
#820 [03:25] <SinZ> Wug: I have no idea what happened
#821 [03:26] <SinZ> timeout is set to 10, and retrys 3 times
#822 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> Yup, all tools have durability
#823 [03:26] <shannonlasell> and i think i just burnt the whole map down
#824 [03:26] <shannonlasell> yup pretty much
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#827 [03:35] <Wug> shannonlasell: lol
#828 [03:35] <Wug> in newer versions fire spread is nerfed
#829 [03:35] <shannonlasell> its still burning
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#831 [03:42] <SinZ> hyperspace, nice
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#833 [03:45] <mib_qvklli> why wont my hp dv7 run minecraft?
#834 [03:48] <GreyVulpine> Can you give us a little more information? What does minecraft say?
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#836 [03:53] <mib_qvklli> it says my se binary has stopped working and it failed to find an accelerated open GL mode
#837 [03:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_qvklli - Usually means either your video card's drivers are out of date, or you have an old system
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#841 [04:35] <TheLastNiceGuy> ok so here's my problem. no matter where i try to lunch minecraft from it gets stuck on "downloading packages" and just sits there and i just paid for a premium account, how do i get it to update?
#842 [04:37] <GreyVulpine> TheLastNiceGuy - Does it get stuck at the beginning?
#843 [04:37] <TheLastNiceGuy> yea
#844 [04:37] <GreyVulpine> Using windows?
#845 [04:37] <TheLastNiceGuy> yea, windows 7 64 bit
#846 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> Does your windows username happen to have an exclaimation mark (!) in it?
#847 [04:38] <TheLastNiceGuy> no
#848 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what version of java you have installed on there?
#849 [04:39] <TheLastNiceGuy> java 1.6.0_27
#850 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> Do you know if you have java 1.7.0 installed on there?
#851 [04:40] <TheLastNiceGuy> i do not
#852 [04:41] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile% and press enter. Make sure the folder that it takes you to, contains no ! marks
#853 [04:43] <TheLastNiceGuy> it doesn't, i just used my real name for the user profile name
#854 [04:44] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Could you right click on the minecraft launcher and run it as admin?
#855 [04:46] <TheLastNiceGuy> it took me to the login screen
#856 [04:46] <GreyVulpine> Alright, can you log in with that?
#857 [04:47] <TheLastNiceGuy> yea, but then it goes right back to saying "downloading packages" and just sits there
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#859 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> Do you see it get stuck on any specific file at all? Or is, "downloading packages" all you see?
#860 [04:49] <TheLastNiceGuy> that's all i see is "downloading packages"
#861 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> Could you head to minecraft.net, and use the in-browser client. When it launches, look for a white coffee cup icon in your system tray, next to the clock. Right click on it and open up the Java console.
#862 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> When it gets stuck again, copy everything in the java console and paste it to www.pastebin.com, submit it, and give us the URL
#863 [04:52] <shannonlasell> how long is considered too long at a time to be playing minecraft?
#864 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> shannonlasell - Heh, that's a tough question. Many of us play it for minutes to hours
#865 [04:53] <shannonlasell> i was actually thinking of how many days is too many?
#866 [04:53] * GreyVulpine shrugs
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#867 [04:58] <TheLastNiceGuy> ok here ya go, http://pastebin.com/tSi9yDZ1
#868 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> That's the entire thing?
#869 [05:00] <TheLastNiceGuy> haha, yea, looks a little blank if you ask me
#870 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Yeah.
#871 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> Could you head to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
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#873 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> Look for the .minecraft folder. Go inside. Tell me what you see in there
#874 [05:01] <TheLastNiceGuy> bin folder and last login file
#875 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
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#877 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> Could you delete those two and try minecraft again?
#878 [05:04] <TheLastNiceGuy> which one the standalone client or minecraft.net
#879 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> Either
#880 [05:05] <TheLastNiceGuy> ok i'm trying it with the client
#881 [05:05] <TheLastNiceGuy> and it's right back to being stuck
#882 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> What security software do you run?
#883 [05:07] <TheLastNiceGuy> avg free
#884 [05:08] <TheLastNiceGuy> 2012 edition
#885 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> Could you head into AVG's options, disable its linkscanner module, and try again?
#886 [05:08] <TheLastNiceGuy> ok lets see if that works
#887 [05:10] <TheLastNiceGuy> sigh, nope
#888 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. the last think I can think of that would cause this issue, is a video driver. Do you know what video card you have?
#889 [05:12] <TheLastNiceGuy> no, but i bought this laptop at the black friday sale this year, but let me see if i can find out
#890 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> A dxdiag would tell us:
#891 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> ??> TheLastNiceGuy win/dxdiag
#892 [05:12] <VoxelHead> TheLastNiceGuy: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#893 [05:12] <VoxelHead> TheLastNiceGuy: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#894 [05:16] <TheLastNiceGuy> http://pastebin.com/A88knnHD
#895 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, I absolutely hate HP's website.
#896 [05:25] <TheLastNiceGuy> why's that?
#897 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Just hate how it's laid out.
#898 [05:26] <TheLastNiceGuy> ah
#899 [05:27] <TheLastNiceGuy> so i guess i'm just screwed and wasted $26.95 huh?
#900 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> Makes it a pain to find the model of the computer, and the video drivers.
#901 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> Moment.
#902 [05:27] <TheLastNiceGuy> ok
#903 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, there are no updated video drivers for that laptop from HP's site.
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#906 [05:41] <TheLastNiceGuy> so that's it then huh?
#907 [05:41] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheCar
#908 [05:42] <GreyVulpine> Could you try uninstalling java completely, and reinstall with java 6 again?
#909 [05:42] <Herms> a question: why i can buy the game with paypal atm?
#910 [05:42] <Herms> can = cant
#911 [05:43] <WarTheCar> How do I buy Minecrat by paypal?
#912 [05:43] <GreyVulpine> Herms - Are you paying with a paypal balance, or with a credit card or something else?
#913 [05:44] <Herms> i want pay with my paypal account
#914 [05:44] <Herms> but it failed
#915 [05:44] <Herms> "paying with paypal is at the moment not possible"
#916 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that's something you'll have to take up with paypal. Paypal's been known to be more reliable in purchasing minecaft with
#917 [05:50] <TheLastNiceGuy> GreyVulpine: Would it mess up because i seem to be running two version of java?
#918 [05:51] <GreyVulpine> TheLastNiceGuy - I can't rule it out.
#919 [05:56] <TheLastNiceGuy> nope that didn't work time to uninstall the other one and install 7.1
#920 [05:57] <WarTheCar> How do I buy Minecrat by paypal?
#921 [05:57] <WarTheCar> !paid WarTheCar
#922 [05:58] <GreyVulpine> TheLastNiceGuy - Install java 6 only.
#923 [05:58] <TheLastNiceGuy> oh ok
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#925 [06:00] <TheLastNiceGuy> GreyVulpine: is there not a way to manually update minecraft?
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#927 [06:00] <GreyVulpine> TheLastNiceGuy - There is not.
#928 [06:01] <TheLastNiceGuy> well crap, and this couldnt be because the minecraft servers are down or anything like that?
#929 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> They're not down.
#930 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> Do you have access to another computer you can try minecraft on?
#931 [06:03] <TheLastNiceGuy> yea my mom bought the same exact laptop as i have and i have a REALLY old hp desktop from when we bought it back in 2000
#932 [06:04] <Herms> guys pls help me, i deinstalled java and installed newest version of java, and now i have this message:
#933 [06:04] <Herms> http://i44.tinypic.com/5ph6c.jpg
#934 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> Herms - That's usually a cause of a security software or firewall blocking java from downloading files it needs for minecraft.
#935 [06:05] <Herms> ah ok, i will deactivate it, thanks
#936 [06:08] <Herms> hmm firewall deactivated
#937 [06:08] <Herms> antivirus deactivated
#938 [06:08] <Herms> but same error
#939 [06:08] <Herms> i use firefox and the newest java 30 version
#940 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> Herms - Try an uninstall/reinstall of java 6 update 30
#941 [06:09] <Herms> i did
#942 [06:09] <Herms> [12:08] <Herms> guys pls help me, i deinstalled java and installed newest version of java, and now i have this message:
#943 [06:10] <TheLastNiceGuy> ya what's really weird now the java installer is doing the same thing the minecraft updater did
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#945 [06:11] <TheLastNiceGuy> it says downloading installer but just sits there
#946 [06:11] <Herms> hmm and the solution ?
#947 [06:12] <WarTheCar> is it possible to buy minecraft by a visa or master card?
#948 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> WarTheCar - It is
#949 [06:12] <sprog> i have bought the geme, but my user is not premium. what can i do?
#950 [06:12] <TheLastNiceGuy> yea that's how i did it
#951 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> ??> sprog payment
#952 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> bleh
#953 [06:12] <sprog> ec
#954 [06:12] <VoxelHead> sprog: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#955 [06:12] <VoxelHead> sprog: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#956 [06:13] <Herms> hmm i cant buy the game with paypal and i cant play minecraft for free...... :(
#957 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> Herms - If it's not java, it's your security software. I'm sure of it.
#958 [06:13] <WarTheCar> I tryed 4 credit cards visa and mastercards
#959 [06:13] <sprog> i wait 5 days
#960 [06:13] <WarTheCar> all of them won't work
#961 [06:13] <sprog> but my account is not premium
#962 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Have you checked your financial institution, see if there's a record of payment there?
#963 [06:14] <Herms> GreyVulpine - i deactivated firewall and antivirus
#964 [06:14] <sprog> yes i have do this
#965 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> Herms - What antivirus do you have?
#966 [06:15] <Herms> AVG free
#967 [06:15] <TheLastNiceGuy> well thanks for your time GreyVulpine, guess i'll just have to go ask for my money back on the CEO's twitter
#968 [06:16] <WarTheCar> My computer is no longer protected.
#969 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> Notch doesn't do payment issues.
#970 [06:17] <WarTheCar> ..
#971 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> Herms - Could you try disabling AVG's linkscanner?
#972 [06:17] <TheLastNiceGuy> so what you're saying is, i really just got screwed out of $26.95
#973 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> TheLastNiceGuy - No, your machine's got something that I can't diagnose, that's blocking java from doing what it needs to do
#974 [06:17] <Herms> GreyVulpine - i deinstalled AVG now, i will restart computer, brb
#975 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> It's not the CEO's fault, it's not Mojang, it's not Minecraft.
#976 [06:18] <TheLastNiceGuy> i agree but if i can
#977 [06:18] <TheLastNiceGuy> 't get this to work, i should get my money back
#978 [06:21] <TheLastNiceGuy> anyways like i said thanks for your time, sorry i wasted it
#979 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> TheLastNiceGuy - Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
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#981 [06:22] <Herms> re
#982 [06:22] <Herms> GreyVulpine - didnt work, same message
#983 [06:23] <Herms> atm i have deactivated firewall and no antivirus installed
#984 [06:23] <Herms> maybe its routerfirewall (hardware) ?
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#986 [06:25] <GreyVulpine> Herms - Only if your router does anything with scanning files.
#987 [06:26] <Herms> no
#988 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> Herms - Could you try clearing your browser's cache, or trying a different browser?
#989 [06:27] <Herms> other try: "atm, you cant pay with paypal, pls go back to the trader and choose another paying option"
#990 [06:27] <Herms> good idea, i try it
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#992 [06:31] <Herms> GreyVulpine - on IE i have the same error
#993 [06:31] <Herms> i try it on another computer
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#1000 [07:19] <kleinebaas> did anyone found a solution for my problem yet?
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#1011 [08:23] <mib_q8mmeg> Hello i have a problem.. i will pay with sofortüberweisung.de but i can´t enter my accountnumber..
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#1014 [08:36] <johan123jo> Anyone have any idea how to fix this error? http://pastebin.com/8mrdACzh
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#1016 [08:39] <Morrolan> You will want to ask in #MCP or #risucraft for help with modding, johan123jo.
#1017 [08:39] <Morrolan> I'd try #mcp first, seing as you're using it.
#1018 [08:40] <johan123jo> Ohh sorry, new to this IRC thing : /
#1019 [08:40] <GreyVulpine> Like the error says, enum is a keyword
#1020 [08:40] <GreyVulpine> You wouldn't use Class Class, for instance.
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#1022 [08:40] <GreyVulpine> You can't use return enum;
#1023 [08:40] <Morrolan> No worries. Basically an IRC network like you are in consists of several channels. Each of these channels has a specific topic it's dedicated to. :)
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#1025 [08:41] <Morrolan> However, seems Grey has an idea what's causing this so you'll be just fine here as well.
#1026 [08:41] <mr_fribble> hello
#1027 [08:41] <mr_fribble> can somebody help me
#1028 [08:41] <WugBot> mr_fribble: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1029 [08:41] <mr_fribble> o sorry
#1030 [08:42] <mr_fribble> can u help me to get minecraft
#1031 [08:42] <mr_fribble> ive paid for the game
#1032 [08:42] <mr_fribble> but then mojang is off for the holidays right
#1033 [08:43] <Morrolan> Well, payments will (or should) get processed automagically.
#1034 [08:43] <mr_fribble> yeah but it wont go to my moms phone
#1035 [08:43] <mr_fribble> it says it will text her and it never has
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#1037 [08:43] <GreyVulpine> text.. her?
#1038 [08:44] <Morrolan> Uh, are you talking about Minecraft Pocket Edition? Or why exactly is a phone involved?
#1039 [08:44] <bellows> hey has modloader been updated to 1.0?
#1040 [08:44] <GreyVulpine> Are you paying with a credit card that requires a text message to verify?
#1041 [08:44] <mr_fribble> cause it needs to verifaction
#1042 [08:44] <GreyVulpine> bellows - It has
#1043 [08:44] <mr_fribble> yeah american express
#1044 [08:44] <Morrolan> There are credit cards which require text verification as well now? Good to know.
#1045 [08:44] <bellows> hmm where can i find it? is it on the main minecraft forum download page?
#1046 [08:45] <GreyVulpine> bellows - http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/75440-v100-risugamis-mods-everything-updated/
#1047 [08:45] <Morrolan> bellows: Google will spit out its thread pretty fast.
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#1049 [08:45] <Morrolan> Or... some other guy will spit it out even faster.
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#1051 [08:45] <bellows> thanks :)
#1052 [08:45] <mr_fribble> haha
#1053 [08:45] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - That's going to be something you will need to talk to American express for.
#1054 [08:45] <GreyVulpine> Mojang doesn't do text messages for payments
#1055 [08:45] <mr_fribble> oh thanks for your guys time
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#1057 [08:47] <mr_fribble> okay if u dont believe me go to your account on minecraft.net buy it itll say wat credit card are u buyin with and then itll say okay we will send u a text and then thats y i came here.
#1058 [08:47] <Morrolan> Sure, it's not me not believing you, I just didn't know about it.
#1059 [08:48] <mr_fribble> thanks morrolan
#1060 [08:49] <mr_fribble> grey vulpine if i come back u will know if its me or not ill be nick
#1061 [08:49] * GreyVulpine nods.
#1061 [08:49] <mr_fribble> kk bye
#1062 [08:49] <mr_fribble> thxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
#1063 [08:49] <mr_fribble> thxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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#1070 [09:24] <kermit> hello, is grey online
#1071 [09:24] <kermit> ?
#1072 [09:27] <kermit> well may i speak to greyvulpine? i had a issue with me running my minecraft... when i tried getting on through my launcher it gives me 2 options to play offline and to try agian i have been told to delete everything in my .minecraft folder exept my saves then he told me to run my server and to connect to "local host"?
#1073 [09:28] <hmw> you should be able to connect to your server, even, if you are playing in offline mode
#1074 [09:28] <Scott> He is probably gone.
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#1080 [09:35] <Murry1> i recently made a new minecraft world on a pretty good computer and there was severe lag im now on an even better computer and it still has severe lag
#1081 [09:37] <Murry1> i recently made a new minecraft world on a pretty good computer and there was severe lag im now on an even better computer and it still has severe lag
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#1083 [09:38] <Murry1> could you please anw=swer my question
#1084 [09:39] <hmw> Murry1: I am busy now, but give it some time, eventually someone will answer
#1085 [09:39] <hmw> irc can be slow at times
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#1087 [09:47] <geraldbrent> I hate power outages
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#1089 [09:49] <robofox> my minecraft keeps crashing after i begin to play it. i've nstalled enough java memory, but it still doesn't work. what should i do?
#1090 [09:49] <Scott> geraldbrent: UPS + ATS + natural gas generator
#1091 [09:49] <shannonlasell> are you using linux or windows?
#1092 [09:49] <robofox> windows.
#1093 [09:50] <shannonlasell> have you tried uninstalling it first and reinstalling it?
#1094 [09:50] <geraldbrent> I have a 8000 watt diesel genny, but I think the batteries are dead
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#1097 [10:07] <enterman8712> hello
#1098 [10:07] <SimenOlai_Bed> ammagaad!!
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#1100 [10:07] <SimenOlai_Bed> my computer so warm now
#1101 [10:08] <SimenOlai_Bed> WTFWatch, watch what?
#1102 [10:08] <enterman8712> anyone who can help me with a minecraft problem
#1103 [10:08] <SimenOlai_Bed> i can
#1104 [10:08] <SimenOlai_Bed> if you can cool down my computer
#1105 [10:08] <SimenOlai_Bed> :D
#1106 [10:08] <SimenOlai_Bed> ive been sleeping until now :)
#1107 [10:09] <SimenOlai> brb, im going to use long time to check the logs
#1108 [10:09] <enterman8712> last day i got a BSOD with the code 0x000007a and i think its minercaft
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#1110 [10:09] <enterman8712> can somebody help me
#1111 [10:09] <WugBot> enterman8712: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1112 [10:09] <enterman8712> ok
#1113 [10:10] <enterman8712> well everything started a month back
#1114 [10:10] <enterman8712> i just bought minecraft everythng was fine
#1115 [10:10] <enterman8712> but the nest week
#1116 [10:10] <madalynn> My harddrive crashed, I installed a new one. I tried to download the game and only got 263MB,
#1117 [10:10] <enterman8712> i got my first BSOD
#1118 [10:11] <enterman8712> i reinstaled my windows several times and get a new hard driver
#1119 [10:11] <enterman8712> a much better one
#1120 [10:11] <enterman8712> and last day
#1121 [10:11] <enterman8712> while i was playing
#1122 [10:11] <Scott> Yay BSoDs!
#1123 [10:11] <enterman8712> from mornng to night
#1124 [10:12] <enterman8712> at night i got another BSOD
#1125 [10:12] <Scott> I remember coming home to a BSoD almost every day when I used Vista lol.
#1126 [10:12] <enterman8712> can anybody help me
#1127 [10:13] <madalynn> do I need to buy it again? When I log in, it shows me as a premium user.
#1128 [10:13] <enterman8712> please
#1129 [10:13] <Scott> BSoDs are typically hardware, driver, or OS issues.
#1130 [10:13] <Scott> There isn't much we can do about it.
#1131 [10:13] <madalynn> what is BS0Ds?
#1132 [10:13] <Scott> I would suggest you contact your computer manufacturer for support.
#1133 [10:13] <enterman8712> so what i should do now
#1134 [10:14] <enterman8712> i alrady do this
#1135 [10:14] <Scott> madalynn: what is your username?
#1136 [10:14] <Scott> enterman8712: Feel free to hang around. Maybe someone can help.
#1137 [10:14] <enterman8712> and the BSODS appear only when i am playing minecaft for a long time
#1138 [10:14] <Scott> I don't touch Windows anymore.
#1139 [10:14] <sdousley> Does anyone know why it might be that when I load Minecraft sometimes, the CPU maxes out at 100% before it even fully loads the welcome screen?
#1140 [10:14] <madalynn> I don't need support from them, I need my question answered from someone at minecraft.
#1141 [10:15] <Scott> madalynn: I wasn't talking to you. What is your Minecraft username?
#1142 [10:15] <enterman8712> i have the same problem lke sdousley
#1143 [10:15] <enterman8712> like sory
#1144 [10:15] <sdousley> enterman8712: oddly it's not all the time, only some times
#1145 [10:15] <madalynn> My son's is therners
#1146 [10:15] <sdousley> like if i were to reboot now, it'd work fine
#1147 [10:15] <Scott> !paid therners
#1148 [10:15] <enterman8712> for me always :)
#1149 [10:15] <enterman8712> :(
#1150 [10:16] <Scott> Ugh.
#1151 [10:16] <enterman8712> i think of never ay minercaft again
#1152 [10:16] <Scott> Minecraft.net is being really slow.
#1153 [10:16] <madalynn> is anybody talking to me?
#1154 [10:16] <Scott> madalynn: It appears you have a premium account.
#1155 [10:16] <Scott> What is the problem?
#1156 [10:16] <SimenOlai> uhm
#1157 [10:16] <SimenOlai> WTF {unimatrix}
#1158 [10:16] <SimenOlai> you spammed more than me i see up here
#1159 [10:17] <madalynn> When my son is playing, it kicks him out. My hard drive crashed a few days ago, I installed a new one, and when I downloaded a new minecraft it is only showing 263MB not 270MB?
#1160 [10:18] <Scott> Can you be more specific to "kicks him out"? The size isn't an issue.
#1161 [10:19] <enterman8712> YAYYAYAYAYAYAYAA
#1162 [10:19] <SimenOlai> scott have you seen that ''spam'' {unimatrix} had up there? :P
#1163 [10:19] <enterman8712> :)))))
#1164 [10:19] <enterman8712> my father is giving me a new comp
#1165 [10:19] <SimenOlai> like 9 hours ago :D
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#1167 [10:19] <Scott> Given that 9 hours ago, I was probably asleep, no.
#1168 [10:19] <enterman8712> :D
#1169 [10:20] <enterman8712> and what are the advantages of a mac
#1170 [10:20] <Scott> It just works? :D
#1171 [10:20] <Scott> and it's POSIX-compliant.
#1172 [10:20] <enterman8712> without bluescreens
#1173 [10:20] <enterman8712> or any erors like wndows
#1174 [10:20] <enterman8712> ??
#1175 [10:20] <Morrolan> Yea, as if an average Windows PC would bluescreen daily....
#1176 [10:21] <madalynn> The game stops and the screen goes back to normal. I haven't seen it happen, he just explained it to me.
#1177 [10:21] <Scott> Morrolan: MINE DID!
#1178 [10:21] <Morrolan> Mac has the advantage that it's more of an "out of the box" system than Windows.
#1179 [10:21] <Morrolan> Shush, Scott.
#1180 [10:21] <Scott> It was even certified for Vista lol
#1181 [10:21] <enterman8712> so mac its way more better then windows?
#1182 [10:21] <Morrolan> Windows has the advantage that it has much more software. And that I somehow prefer it.
#1183 [10:21] <Morrolan> It is not.
#1184 [10:21] <Scott> enterman8712: It's a personal preference really.
#1185 [10:22] <Scott> Windows annoys me to death so I use a Mac and Linux.
#1186 [10:22] <enterman8712> i dont know what to say
#1187 [10:22] <Morrolan> That it is. And I think that a Mac is easier for someone who is not that tech-savy.
#1188 [10:22] <Morrolan> Since it's more, uh, failproof I guess.
#1189 [10:22] <enterman8712> so with a winodws i get more softwere
#1190 [10:22] <enterman8712> and with a mac no errors
#1191 [10:23] <madalynn> It shows that I have minecraft, is the POSIX question for me?
#1192 [10:23] <enterman8712> ?/
#1193 [10:23] <Morrolan> You don't get errors with WIndows either if you don't do anything wrong.
#1194 [10:23] <SimenOlai> there is not always errors on windows
#1195 [10:23] <SimenOlai> there is not always errors on windows
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#1197 [10:23] <enterman8712> so then my new computer will have a mac :P
#1198 [10:23] <Morrolan> It's just: Mac -> easier to use, less susceptible for user errors. WIndows -> MUCH more software.
#1199 [10:23] <Scott> Mac isn't error proof but it largly works out of the box.
#1200 [10:23] <Scott> largely*
#1201 [10:24] <Morrolan> And a _very_ big part is just preference.
#1202 [10:24] <Morrolan> I'd _never_ touch a Mac if I don't have to.
#1203 [10:24] <Morrolan> For no real reason but "I don't like it"
#1204 [10:24] <Scott> You don't really need antivirus/security either as long as you're randomly downloading crap and typing your administrator password in every box that asks for it.
#1205 [10:24] <Scott> as you're NOT downloading*
#1206 [10:25] <Morrolan> So if you've got the money and feel like trying it out then go for a Mac.
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#1208 [10:25] <Scott> The same could be said for Windows but there are more virus/malware/etc for Windows.
#1209 [10:25] <Morrolan> Yea. Since sadly the bad guys focus on popular OSes. :(
#1210 [10:26] <Scott> It probably doesn't matter to you but Mac OS X is also fully POSIX-compliant and Unix-based.
#1211 [10:27] <Scott> and as far as software compatibility, I've never needed software that didn't support Mac OS X or didn't have a viable alternative available.
#1212 [10:29] <enterman8712> but on my comp
#1213 [10:29] <enterman8712> i just have instalrd minecraft
#1214 [10:30] <enterman8712> and a cheat for it :)
#1215 [10:30] <enterman8712> whats OS
#1216 [10:33] <enterman8712> mac wont recive eror from minecraft no????
#1217 [10:33] <enterman8712> ?
#1218 [10:33] <enterman8712> ?
#1219 [10:33] <enterman8712> ?????????????
#1220 [10:33] <Morrolan> There is no telling, enterman8712.
#1221 [10:33] <SimenOlai> stop talking like you live here
#1222 [10:33] <SimenOlai> :D
#1223 [10:34] <enterman8712> >:(
#1224 [10:34] <Morrolan> Did you actually try to fix that error you get on WIndows?
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#1226 [10:34] <enterman8712> every day
#1227 [10:34] <enterman8712> trying everything
#1228 [10:34] <Morrolan> And what error do you get?
#1229 [10:34] <enterman8712> nothng worked
#1230 [10:34] <enterman8712> 0x000007a
#1231 [10:35] <enterman8712> in blue screen
#1232 [10:35] <enterman8712> vewer
#1233 [10:35] <Morrolan> Oh, inconvenient.
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#1235 [10:35] <enterman8712> whats your oppnion
#1236 [10:35] <enterman8712> what should i do
#1237 [10:36] <SinZ> brewing section on wiki needs more work <3
#1238 [10:36] <SinZ> more info for each potion
#1239 [10:37] <enterman8712> ??
#1240 [10:37] <enterman8712> anyone
#1241 [10:37] <enterman8712> ??
#1242 [10:38] <enterman8712> what s CTCP NOTICE
#1243 [10:38] <enterman8712> ?/
#1244 [10:38] <enterman8712> ?
#1245 [10:41] <enterman8712> what should do
#1246 [10:42] <enterman8712> ;(
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#1249 [10:43] <Balee> Hey!
#1250 [10:43] <Balee> Say, is there a way to make the default size of the MC window bigger?
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#1252 [10:44] <Balee> I just recently switched displays from a 720p one to 1080p, and the window size is way too small.
#1253 [10:44] <Balee> But full screen would be too big for my taste.
#1254 [10:44] <Balee> (Although I might try that eventually.)
#1255 [10:44] <Balee> But for now, I'm interested if there's a way to do so.
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#1257 [10:54] <Morrolan> Uh, I don't think you can change its default size, no.
#1258 [10:55] <Morrolan> You'll have to manually resize it I'm afraid.
#1259 [10:55] <Morrolan> You can, however, change the size of its GUI.
#1260 [10:55] <enterman8712> can you help me with my previous question
#1261 [10:56] <Morrolan> A CTCP notice is a message only you see.
#1262 [10:56] <Scott> I wish I got a higher resolution display. :(
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#1264 [10:56] <enterman8712> no that the next one
#1265 [10:57] <Morrolan> I really can't decide for you whether to buy a Mac or a Windows. And I wouldn't know how to help you with your bluescreen, sorry.
#1266 [10:57] <enterman8712> ;(
#1267 [10:57] <Morrolan> Scott: Well, 24" screens aren't all that expensive nowadays, so why not just get yourself one for birthday / late christmas?
#1268 [10:57] <Scott> I use a macbook pro.
#1269 [10:57] <Morrolan> Oh, yea.
#1270 [10:57] <Morrolan> Uh, hehe, nevermind me. :D
#1271 [10:57] <Scott> I could get an external monitor but I'd prefer an Apple thunderbolt display.
#1272 [10:57] <Morrolan> A what?
#1273 [10:58] <Scott> 27inch IPS
#1274 [10:58] <enterman8712> maybe is hould forget about minercaft
#1275 [10:58] <Scott> http://www.apple.com/displays/
#1276 [10:58] <Morrolan> Oh, one of these.
#1277 [10:58] <Scott> It is basically a CPUless iMac
#1278 [10:58] <Scott> it acts like a dock using Thunderbolt.
#1279 [10:58] <enterman8712> should i get refund if i wont play minercaft anymore
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#1281 [10:59] <Scott> Mojang doesn't offer refunds.
#1282 [10:59] <enterman8712> D:
#1283 [10:59] <enterman8712> why
#1284 [10:59] <Morrolan> Why should they?
#1285 [10:59] <enterman8712> its not fair
#1286 [11:00] <enterman8712> havent buy somethng to kill my comp
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#1288 [11:00] <Morrolan> It's simply not Mojang's fault that your computer bluescreens. There must be some driver or piece of hardware messed up somewhere.
#1289 [11:01] <enterman8712> i got a new driver
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#1291 [11:01] <enterman8712> and i asked some other people and search and ,minecraft is doing this
#1292 [11:04] <enterman8712> its realy that notch left minercaft and now jeb is the developer
#1293 [11:05] <Balee> [16:55:40] <Morrolan> You can, however, change the size of its GUI.
#1294 [11:06] <Balee> Nah, I was interested in the gaming area.
#1295 [11:06] <Balee> But thanks for the info anyways. :)
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#1298 [11:09] <Balee> Maybe I'll set up a macro that'll help me resize it to the same size every time, lol.
#1299 [11:09] <Balee> And increase that size every now and then until I get used to full-screen.
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#1303 [11:20] <mib_dn63zh> Hello, I have bought the game for my son. He has tried to set it up on his computer, however you say that you have sent a verification email, which we haven't got and yes we have checked the spam. We asked now 5/6 times for this to be resent but still not got it Help please
#1304 [11:22] <mib_dn63zh> How do we contact Mojong then?
#1305 [11:22] <Balee> Erm...
#1306 [11:22] <Balee> First things first...
#1307 [11:23] <Balee> Lemme check my mails, I don't remember what that verification mail should contain.
#1308 [11:23] <mib_dn63zh> aw thanks!
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#1310 [11:24] <Morrolan> mib_dn63zh: When was it that you bought the game? And did your credit card get charged the money already?
#1311 [11:24] <mib_dn63zh> also the site keeps crashing!! Yes I just bought it around 4 hours ago and we have been trying that long to get it on the go!!!!
#1312 [11:25] <mib_dn63zh> I paid via paypal so yes its been taken
#1313 [11:25] <Morrolan> No need to put that many exclamation marks, now is there.
#1314 [11:25] <SimenOlai> ??acount
#1315 [11:25] <SimenOlai> ??account
#1316 [11:25] <SimenOlai> D:
#1317 [11:25] <Morrolan> It can take up to three working days for Mojang's payment provider to process payments, so I suggest you wait another day or two.
#1318 [11:25] <SimenOlai> ?? account
#1319 [11:25] <VoxelHead> account: We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#1320 [11:25] <VoxelHead> account: Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#1321 [11:25] <SimenOlai> lol he was late
#1322 [11:25] <Morrolan> No need for this FAQ entry in that case, SimenOlai.
#1323 [11:26] <SimenOlai> i mean this
#1324 [11:26] <SimenOlai> ?? payment
#1325 [11:26] <SimenOlai> :)
#1326 [11:26] <Morrolan> Yes, I assumed so.
#1327 [11:26] <mib_dn63zh> That site crashes when I try and go to it to get the help :(
#1328 [11:26] <SimenOlai> how crashes?
#1329 [11:26] <Balee> It doesn't load for me either, at the moment.
#1330 [11:26] <Morrolan> As I said, mib_dn63zh, it can take up to three days for the payment to get processed, I suggest you wait atleast two days. If it still doesn't work you can send a mail to Mojang.
#1331 [11:26] <mib_dn63zh> Well wont open - says server error and some codes come up
#1332 [11:27] <Morrolan> Yea, it's completely overloaded at the moment.
#1333 [11:27] <Morrolan> Christmas pretty much brought the website down.
#1334 [11:27] <mib_dn63zh> oh right. But yet I did a code for my daughter just b4 my sons and it went through straight away and I paid the same way
#1335 [11:27] <SinZ> gift codes seem to be faster
#1336 [11:28] <SinZ> dunno why
#1337 [11:28] <mib_dn63zh> she is up and running - his is also a gift code
#1338 [11:28] <SinZ> 0.o
#1339 [11:28] <Morrolan> It's mostly about luck from what I've seen so far.
#1340 [11:28] <SimenOlai> morrolan
#1341 [11:28] <SinZ> when I brought my 3 giftcodes, they were all instant
#1342 [11:28] <mib_dn63zh> right, guess my son is unlucky then :(
#1343 [11:28] <Morrolan> The three accounts I've bought so far went through night-instantly, but there are others where it took several days.
#1344 [11:28] <SimenOlai> can you access my site? http://sr.wut.se
#1345 [11:29] <Morrolan> Doesn't seem like it, SimenOlai.
#1346 [11:29] <SinZ> `ping sr.wut.se 80
#1347 [11:29] <mib_dn63zh> trying
#1348 [11:29] <SimenOlai> wtf is the problem with it? D:
#1349 [11:29] <SinZ> `port sr.wut.se 80
#1350 [11:29] <mib_dn63zh> No - sorry
#1351 [11:29] <SinZBot> Cannot connect to server
#1352 [11:29] <mib_dn63zh> exactly my problem too
#1353 [11:30] <Balee> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://sr.wut.se
#1354 [11:30] <SinZ> either the webservers down, dns issues, or not portforwarded
#1355 [11:30] <SimenOlai> how to portforward
#1356 [11:30] <SimenOlai> :)
#1357 [11:30] <SinZ> ?? portforward
#1358 [11:30] <SinZ> aww
#1359 [11:30] <SimenOlai> how to portforward
#1360 [11:30] <SinZ> ?? index
#1361 [11:30] <mib_dn63zh> what is Portforward?
#1362 [11:30] <SimenOlai> when no routers
#1363 [11:30] <SimenOlai> :D
#1364 [11:31] <SinZ> whos hosting it
#1365 [11:31] <SimenOlai> myself
#1366 [11:31] <SimenOlai> :D
#1367 [11:31] <SinZ> ??> smp/slimes
#1368 [11:31] <SinZ> ??< smp/slimes
#1369 [11:31] <SimenOlai> ?? bot/spam
#1370 [11:31] <SimenOlai> ...
#1371 [11:31] <Balee> ?? smp/slimes
#1372 [11:32] <SimenOlai> help me Morrolan
#1373 [11:32] <JohnEBH> ??> dont/spam
#1374 [11:32] <SimenOlai> they spam the bot xD
#1375 [11:32] <Balee> Immortal slimes. :o Sweet.
#1376 [11:32] <SinZ> I abuse my own bot more then voxelhead, so shush >:D
#1377 [11:32] <JohnEBH> ??< index
#1378 [11:33] <Balee> Hehe, I remember when, in a different channel, we used to crash this one user's bot to see if it has been fixed. :D
#1379 [11:33] <JohnEBH> ??> channel dont/spam
#1380 [11:33] <VoxelHead> channel: (dont/spam) We can hear you just fine, and your text does not disappear automagically. Please do not spam the same thing over and over again.
#1381 [11:33] <JohnEBH> :D
#1382 [11:33] <SinZ> ??< wireshark
#1383 [11:34] <SimenOlai> none is named channel
#1384 [11:34] <SimenOlai> :d
#1385 [11:34] <SimenOlai> ?? index
#1386 [11:34] <Morrolan> *ahem*, may I kindly point at ##Voxelhead ?
#1387 [11:34] <SinZ> No you cant
#1388 [11:34] <SinZ> <3
#1389 [11:34] <JohnEBH> Nope
#1390 [11:34] <SimenOlai> ??> morrolan aubot
#1391 [11:34] <VoxelHead> morrolan: (aubot) Aubot is also a bot.
#1392 [11:35] <SimenOlai> :D
#1393 [11:35] <Morrolan> Right. And you did this because?
#1394 [11:35] <SimenOlai> because: Aubot is also a bot.
#1395 [11:35] <SimenOlai> xD
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#1397 [11:35] <SinZ> ??< irc/mibnick
#1398 [11:36] <SinZ> That should automatically be sent to people with mib_*
#1399 [11:36] <Morrolan> It is.
#1400 [11:36] <Morrolan> Well, AuBot yells at them.
#1401 [11:37] <SinZ> heh
#1402 [11:37] <SinZ> All the bots should do it
#1403 [11:37] <SinZ> so when someone joins with mib_* they get spammed by bots
#1404 [11:37] <Morrolan> Meh, someone who is able to overread four line of caps then he's able to overread ten lines of caps just as well I guess.
#1405 [11:38] <SimenOlai> morrolan
#1406 [11:38] <SimenOlai> meet my bot
#1407 [11:39] <SimenOlai> ehrm
#1408 [11:39] <SimenOlai> meet my bot
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#1410 [11:39] <MinecraftClassicBot> Console [Graversimen]: hi
#1411 [11:39] <SimenOlai> :)
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#1413 [11:46] <flabbergaster> purchased minecraft xmas eve, keep trying to go in and play but it doesn't load it and comes up with internal server error- any suggestions?
#1414 [11:47] <SimenOlai> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2rDbRUDkds i love the bass
#1415 [11:50] <SimenOlai> this got more views in 4 months faster than minecraft got users in 2 and a half year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPJUBQd-PNM
#1416 [11:50] <SimenOlai> lol
#1417 [11:52] <SinZ> love the song, hate the vid
#1418 [11:54] <SinZ> that, and they call gunpowder sulpher
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#1420 [11:56] <Master_Jynx> i have a mod issue if anyone is present
#1421 [12:02] <oldtopman> ??> Master_Jynx mods
#1422 [12:02] <VoxelHead> Master_Jynx: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1423 [12:02] <VoxelHead> Master_Jynx: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
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#1426 [12:13] <bellows> hi
#1427 [12:14] <bellows> Hi I bought Minecraft 3 days ago but whenever I try to log in it says User Not Premium. So we bought it again but it wouldn't work! Do I have to wait longer for the transaction to be complete?
#1428 [12:16] <tyteen4a03> bellows: What payment provider are you using?
#1429 [12:16] <tyteen4a03> bellows; Example includes PayPal, VISA, MasterCard and MoneyBookers
#1430 [12:16] <tyteen4a03> *Visa
#1431 [12:17] <bellows> We used American Express
#1432 [12:17] <tyteen4a03> bellows: Has the payment hit the bank yet?
#1433 [12:18] <bellows> We checked last night and there was no record of it going through
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#1435 [12:19] <tyteen4a03> bellows: I recommend you to use PayPal at all times, and try to call up AE if they have received the payment instruction yet
#1436 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> If not, pay using paypal instead
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#1438 [12:22] <bellows> Thank you so much!
#1439 [12:23] <tyteen4a03> no problem
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#1443 [12:31] <mib_s7dt18> You see my brother started his own server so my family could play on it and When i am going to get my account i thought it would be funny if i had a creeper skin on and I used sneak hack so it didn't show my name and scare him. I downloaded it from this link http://www.mediafire.com/?bfp4omsb3bauw8j and the directions told me to download it like a mod so I di
#1444 [12:32] <mib_s7dt18> did
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#1447 [12:33] <nickbrik> You see my brother started his own server so my family could play on it and When i am going to get my account i thought it would be funny if i had a creeper skin on and I used sneak hack so it didn't show my name and scare him. I downloaded it from this link http://www.mediafire.com/?bfp4omsb3bauw8j and the directions told me to download it like a mod so I di
#1448 [12:35] <linchou> hi, i made a mistake for my email, i put a .com instead of .fr. I can't acces too it. Can you help me to know how to change it plz?
#1449 [12:35] <datslimerikcity> when i login to minecraft it just closes and goes back to the desktop and leaves an error report "A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment" what can i do to fix it
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#1451 [12:35] <H> Hi! I can't log in to my WoM.
#1452 [12:36] <H> ?
#1453 [12:37] <nickbrik> Hi can someone help me!
#1454 [12:37] <nickbrik> plz
#1455 [12:37] <datslimerikcity> pls help
#1456 [12:38] <nickbrik> HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1457 [12:38] <nickbrik> i NEED HELP
#1458 [12:38] <datslimerikcity> help
#1459 [12:39] <nickbrik> You see my brother started his own server so my family could play on it and When i am going to get my account i thought it would be funny if i had a creeper skin on and I used sneak hack so it didn't show my name and scare him. I downloaded it from this link http://www.mediafire.com/?bfp4omsb3bauw8j and the directions told me to download it like a mod so I
#1460 [12:39] <nickbrik> did
#1461 [12:40] <datslimerikcity> look if nobodys here to help why are u here at all
#1462 [12:40] <nickbrik> wait me?
#1463 [12:41] <nickbrik> Thats it this bull shit im out
#1464 [12:41] <datslimerikcity> no but these idlers or whatever
#1465 [12:41] <{unimatrix}> ok
#1466 [12:41] <datslimerikcity> help
#1467 [12:41] <datslimerikcity> help
#1468 [12:42] <datslimerikcity> help
#1469 [12:42] <{unimatrix}> shut up
#1470 [12:42] <{unimatrix}> geez
#1471 [12:42] <{unimatrix}> you wanna download a sneak hack?
#1472 [12:42] <datslimerikcity> he left
#1473 [12:43] <{unimatrix}> oh
#1474 [12:43] <{unimatrix}> didnt notice
#1475 [12:43] <datslimerikcity> ya
#1476 [12:43] <Scott> datslimerikcity: Spamming will not get you help. It will get you banned.
#1477 [12:43] <datslimerikcity> k
#1478 [12:43] <{unimatrix}> that and ill shoot an arrow to your knee
#1479 [12:44] <datslimerikcity> what is that about?
#1480 [12:50] <linchou> 18:35 linchou hi, i made a mistake for my email, i put a .com instead of .fr. I can't acces too it. Can you help me to know how to change it plz? <--- is it the good channel for account help ?
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#1483 [12:54] <mib_pmh3uy> Hi! We just bought Minecraft for my son, and when we sign in, it seems to think we haven't downloaded the game yet. What step did we miss?
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#1485 [12:55] <Rudi> What's with the Error 500 Internal Server thing? Anyone else getting stuck with it?
#1486 [12:55] <bapada63> Hi! We just bought Minecraft for my son, and when we sign in, it seems to think we haven't downloaded the game yet. What step did we miss?
#1487 [12:58] <bapada63> Hi! We just bought Minecraft for my son, and when we sign in, it seems to think we haven't downloaded the game yet. What step did we miss?
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#1491 [13:00] <bapada63> I get "User not premium (not downloaded)"
#1492 [13:00] <bapada63> I've tried downloading it several times. As far as I know, it's downloaded.
#1493 [13:02] <bapada63> Could you at least respond? You know, let me know you've read my question?
#1494 [13:02] <bapada63> We gave you $27, after all.
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#1496 [13:03] <bapada63> Now I'm getting "internal server error"
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#1498 [13:04] <linchou> i m waiting for 30min and nobody stil answer me....
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#1501 [13:05] <linchou> they must be absent!
#1502 [13:05] <Balee> Hey.
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#1504 [13:06] <curmet> whenever i try to play this it says digital content cannot be verified HELP!
#1505 [13:06] <Balee> It is possible that people here who are really the ones with the good answers are afk or something.
#1506 [13:06] <SinZ> ^
#1507 [13:06] <linchou> ^^
#1508 [13:06] <Balee> Lemme see what's the problem, maybe I can be of some help.
#1509 [13:07] <curmet> thx
#1510 [13:07] <SinZ> Digital content cannot be verified, just click yes <3
#1511 [13:08] <Balee> linchou: Where did you make that mistake?
#1512 [13:08] <curmet> Im not able to run java Im pressing run but its irresponsive
#1513 [13:08] <Balee> bapada63: When did you buy the game?
#1514 [13:08] <SinZ> got java installed?
#1515 [13:08] <linchou> 18:50 linchou 18:35 linchou hi, i made a mistake for my email, i put a .com instead of .fr. I can't acces too it. Can you help me to know how to change it plz? <--- is it the good channel for account help ?
#1516 [13:08] <SinZ> no account help here
#1517 [13:08] <Balee> Yes, I read that already.
#1518 [13:08] <curmet> Yes im on a mac
#1519 [13:08] <SinZ> and there currently isnt a way to change email
#1520 [13:09] <Balee> Also, what SinZ said, then.
#1521 [13:09] <linchou> k where can i find account help??
#1522 [13:09] <SinZ> closest thing to account help is emailing mojang
#1523 [13:09] <linchou> k ty
#1524 [13:10] <curmet> does anyone know how i can fix my problem
#1525 [13:10] <SinZ> ??< curmet mac/permissions
#1526 [13:10] <SinZ> ??> curmet mac/permissions
#1527 [13:10] <VoxelHead> curmet: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1528 [13:10] <VoxelHead> curmet: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#1529 [13:11] <Balee> bapada63: Are you still here?
#1530 [13:11] <bapada63> We bought it on Christmas Day
#1531 [13:11] <bapada63> Yes, we have java
#1532 [13:12] <Balee> On the 25th, then..
#1533 [13:12] <bapada63> yes
#1534 [13:12] <curmet> im just trying to ply the classic for now until i can get it to work i dont want to buy the game and not be able to play it
#1535 [13:12] <Balee> Mojang might take up to 3 days to process payments.
#1536 [13:12] <Balee> As far as I know, at least.
#1537 [13:12] <bapada63> Oh! Really? Okay then, maybe we need to wait
#1538 [13:12] <Balee> Also.
#1539 [13:12] <SinZ> some of the payment is backed up due to the christmas rush
#1540 [13:13] <bapada63> Okay, we'll keep checking.
#1541 [13:13] <Balee> Some servers seem to be down, that could cause your problem as well.
#1542 [13:13] <SinZ> `mcping vps.mca.d3s.co 25565
#1543 [13:13] <SinZ> ah damn
#1544 [13:13] <bapada63> Who can we contact if nothing happens, like, after a week?
#1545 [13:13] <bapada63> It'
#1546 [13:13] <bapada63> It's hard to find contact info.
#1547 [13:13] <SinZ> email payment@mojang.com after a week
#1548 [13:13] <Balee> SinZ: Maybe we could check if their payment got accepted with that !paid thingy? Or...
#1549 [13:13] <Balee> Or is that down with the servers as well?
#1550 [13:13] <SinZ> `paid S1NZ
#1551 [13:14] <SinZ> mcping command froze bot =S
#1552 [13:14] <Balee> Silly you!
#1553 [13:14] <SinZBot> Cannot connect to vps.mca.d3s.co:25565
#1554 [13:14] <bapada63> Very helpful! Thanks and happy New Year
#1555 [13:14] <Balee> !paid SpecB
#1556 [13:14] <SinZBot> S1NZ hasn't paid for Minecraft!, That bastard!
#1557 [13:14] <Balee> Oh my, you bastard!
#1558 [13:14] <SinZ> yep, login servers are down
#1559 [13:14] <Balee> :P
#1560 [13:14] <SinZ> havent updated plugin yet
#1561 [13:14] <Balee> Well that also could be a problem, then.
#1562 [13:14] <bapada63> Suggestion?
#1563 [13:15] <Balee> Patience is probably the best at times like these.
#1564 [13:15] <bapada63> Post that info somewhere after a payment has been made, clearly, blatantly
#1565 [13:15] <Balee> Although I see you have plenty of that, heh.
#1566 [13:15] <bapada63> So people don't get p.o'd
#1567 [13:15] <bapada63> Like I almost did.
#1568 [13:15] <bapada63> :p
#1569 [13:15] <curmet> hello?
#1570 [13:15] <SinZ> hi
#1571 [13:15] <Balee> Not sure, maybe it is written somewhere.
#1572 [13:16] <Balee> Ah, he left.
#1573 [13:16] <Balee> Moar cake for me!
#1574 [13:16] * Balee noms.
#1574 [13:16] * SinZ steals cake
#1574 [13:16] <curmet> hi im tryig to play classic and the game looks like its loading but when it asks me if I want to run java the RUN button is irresponsive
#1575 [13:16] <SinZ> Dont think there are any mac experts online atm
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#1577 [13:17] <curmet> :/
#1578 [13:17] <Balee> Oh no you di'nt!
#1579 [13:17] <SinZ> Oh yes I di'd
#1580 [13:17] <helpimtrappedinanircnickfactor> y
#1581 [13:17] <helpplease> i never got the email for verification when trying to register for an account... when i click to have it resend verification it gives me a red letter sentence that one was recently sent. how do i get someone to give me a verification #?
#1582 [13:17] <helpimtrappedinanircnickfactor> Dang.
#1583 [13:18] <SinZ> helpplease some of the backend servers are down, gotta be patient
#1584 [13:18] <SinZ> well, overloaded, not down
#1585 [13:18] <Balee> nimrod is a very bad sleeper, is he not?
#1586 [13:18] <helpplease> today is the 2nd day
#1587 [13:19] <SinZ> christmas rush...
#1588 [13:19] <helpplease> can it be done manually by someone for me? my kiddo is sooo anxious to play
#1589 [13:19] <Balee> I misread that as "christmas rash".
#1590 [13:19] <helpplease> rash...ouch. ;)
#1591 [13:19] <Balee> I don't think it can be, sorry.
#1592 [13:19] <SinZ> noone here is from mojang, thus cant
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#1594 [13:20] <wannabemac> :msg
#1595 [13:20] <helpplease> :( well that's just sad - how do i reach someon at mojang? i cant find any help contact info
#1596 [13:20] <wannabemac> What do you need?
#1597 [13:20] * frogaincia [frogaincia@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1598 [13:20] <Balee> A pony, wannabemac.
#1599 [13:20] <wannabemac> lol
#1600 [13:20] <frogaincia> Hello I need help, tell me when you are available :)
#1601 [13:20] <Wug> helpplease: check your spam filter, if it isnt there, make sure the email is correct. you might have to wait a while before resending the verification email
#1602 [13:21] <wannabemac> what do you need, forgaincia?
#1603 [13:21] <SinZ> ohai wug
#1604 [13:21] <frogaincia> Well my MC crashes
#1605 [13:21] * Israfel_ [Israfel_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1606 [13:21] <frogaincia> Because I tried installing a mod.
#1607 [13:21] <helpplease> not in spam... waited since yesterday to ask for it to be resent. just looking all over site to find contact infor for someone in tech support or somethin and got connected here.
#1608 [13:21] <wannabemac> force update.
#1609 [13:21] <frogaincia> Can't get to the game*
#1610 [13:22] <frogaincia> Otherwise I would have done it
#1611 [13:22] <frogaincia> But there's a way by deleting all the files except from one to restore it , no ?
#1612 [13:22] <wannabemac> On the login screen, hit options, select force update, and log in.
#1613 [13:22] <frogaincia> I can't get to the log in screen
#1614 [13:23] <wannabemac> You are telling me you cannot use te minecraft.exe?
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#1616 [13:23] <frogaincia> Pretty much yeah
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#1618 [13:23] <frogaincia> wait let me launch it up again
#1619 [13:23] <frogaincia> Maybe it was a bug or something
#1620 [13:23] <frogaincia> I hope
#1621 [13:24] <wannabemac> ...
#1622 [13:24] <frogaincia> (...)
#1623 [13:24] <SinZ> frogaincia: go to %APPDATA%\.minecraft\ and delete everything exept saves
#1624 [13:24] <SinZ> then try again
#1625 [13:24] <frogaincia> Ok ;)
#1626 [13:24] <frogaincia> Aw I'm dumb
#1627 [13:24] <frogaincia> I pressed login instead of options --'
#1628 [13:25] <SinZ> modloader keeps a mods folder so prob some outdated mods in it
#1629 [13:25] <frogaincia> Well thanks for the help. I'ma never install a mod again ._.
#1630 [13:25] <frogaincia> Well it's for 1.0.0
#1631 [13:25] <frogaincia> smart moving
#1632 [13:25] <SinZ> might have some old mods though
#1633 [13:25] <frogaincia> Maybe. ^^
#1634 [13:25] <frogaincia> thanks for the help
#1635 [13:25] <frogaincia> never mind for the mod
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#1637 [13:37] <p0pcorn72> Is minecraft down at the moment? I can't seem to login on the site nor the client
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#1639 [13:40] <p0pcorn72> anybody alive out there ;)
#1640 [13:42] <p0pcorn72> :-|
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#1642 [13:42] <Balee> I...
#1643 [13:42] <Balee> I... am...
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#1645 [13:43] <p0pcorn72> Can anybody else log into the site?
#1646 [13:43] * Balee uses Regenerate.
#1646 [13:43] <Balee> It's super effective!
#1647 [13:43] <Balee> Nope.
#1648 [13:43] <Balee> Well, not often.
#1649 [13:43] <Balee> It's overloaded.
#1650 [13:43] <p0pcorn72> ah
#1651 [13:43] <krebbit> how much memory does the minecraft game take?
#1652 [13:43] <p0pcorn72> thanks
#1653 [13:43] <Balee> Christmas rush, as it was called already.
#1654 [13:43] <p0pcorn72> krebbit: like 15mb
#1655 [13:43] <Balee> No probs.
#1656 [13:43] <p0pcorn72> maybe less
#1657 [13:43] <Balee> Lol, no.
#1658 [13:44] <Balee> krebbit.
#1659 [13:44] <Balee> Minecraft tends to use up 100-600 megabytes of RAM memory.
#1660 [13:44] <Balee> At least for me.
#1661 [13:44] <Balee> It really depends on a few factors.
#1662 [13:44] <Balee> But I think it's safe to say it's in the hundreds region.
#1663 [13:44] <Balee> Was that what you asked?
#1664 [13:45] <Balee> Or HDD space?
#1665 [13:46] <Balee> I hope it was.
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#1667 [13:48] <MiX-MaN> is there any tools out there to rotate an entire world?
#1668 [13:48] <Balee> Rotate?
#1669 [13:48] <MiX-MaN> i wanna change the orientation of this map so north is .. north again
#1670 [13:49] <Balee> But North *is* North!
#1671 [13:49] <MiX-MaN> not the used to be north north :P
#1672 [13:49] <Balee> Maybe some map editor.
#1673 [13:49] <Balee> But I imagine it being a tidious job.
#1674 [13:50] <Balee> Is it that hard to get used to?
#1675 [13:50] <Balee> I honestly don't feel the difference.
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#1677 [13:50] <MiX-MaN> im trying out this earth map and trying to get it looking right
#1678 [13:51] <MiX-MaN> im guessing it was made before the north change
#1679 [13:51] <Balee> Apparently.
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#1681 [13:52] <Balee> I for one am lazy enough to just pretend Earth was hit by an asteroid and now its axis is tilted so the directions changed.
#1682 [13:52] <MiX-MaN> hah
#1683 [13:52] <Balee> Dammit now I want to build a huge crater.
#1684 [13:53] <Balee> Thanks!
#1685 [13:53] <Balee> :P
#1686 [13:53] <MiX-MaN> :P
#1687 [13:53] <MiX-MaN> hmm speaking of which
#1688 [13:53] <MiX-MaN> i wonder if the crater is in arizona
#1689 [13:53] <MiX-MaN> or nm
#1690 [13:53] <MiX-MaN> or whereever that big ass one is
#1691 [13:53] <Balee> Arizona I believe.
#1692 [13:54] * MiX-MaN waits on dynamps to generate to see
#1692 [13:54] <Balee> Well, depends which huge-ass crater are we talking about.
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#1694 [13:55] <Hitory> i dont know if my email was wrong or i put a old email i dont have anymore its the Account Failse , i cant Verify my email adress and hope someone can help me sorry for my bad english
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#1696 [13:55] <MiX-MaN> arizona .. :P
#1697 [13:55] <MiX-MaN> i searched for big ass hole arizona and it came up
#1698 [13:56] <Balee> I dare not imagine what images Google finds for that search query.
#1699 [13:56] <MiX-MaN> hah
#1700 [13:56] <MiX-MaN> but the real name is "Meteor Crater"
#1701 [13:56] <Balee> Hitory: I think your problem might be related to some Minecraft servers being overloaded right now.
#1702 [13:57] <Balee> At least a lot of people came here with verification issues and that's what smart-looking people told them.
#1703 [13:57] <Balee> So I suggest you have some more patience.
#1704 [13:57] <Hitory> hm maybe ur right
#1705 [13:57] <Balee> MiX-MaN: How unimpressive.
#1706 [13:57] <MiX-MaN> ya
#1707 [13:58] <Balee> Although I have to say it doesn't surprise me that people named it "Meteor Crater" even though they knew there are dozen others - even bigger ones - scattered around the world.
#1708 [13:59] <Balee> I'm not into prejudice but its kind of an explanation on which country that crater is located in.
#1709 [13:59] <MiX-MaN> Today, Meteor Crater is nearly one mile across, 2.4 miles in circumference and more than 550 feet deep. .. so on the world map scale .. that would be like 2 blocks wide and 1 block deep :(
#1710 [13:59] * Balee feels so trendy for saying that.
#1710 [13:59] <MiX-MaN> even more unimpressive
#1711 [13:59] <Balee> Haha.
#1712 [14:00] <Balee> Clearly you don't have the 1:1 Earth map. :D
#1713 [14:00] <MiX-MaN> cant find it :\
#1714 [14:00] <Balee> Gimme a moment.
#1715 [14:00] <Balee> Maybe I saved it.
#1716 [14:00] <Balee> To my favs,
#1717 [14:00] <MiX-MaN> :P
#1718 [14:00] <MiX-MaN> google to the rescue
#1719 [14:01] <Balee> http://dryvby.wordpress.com/2011/10/22/minecraft-project-planet-earth-11/
#1720 [14:01] <Balee> Well, it's 1:1 on the X and Z axis anyways.
#1721 [14:01] <MiX-MaN> awesome
#1722 [14:01] <MiX-MaN> thx
#1723 [14:01] <Balee> No problem.
#1724 [14:01] <Balee> Be aware, though, it's like 2 gigabytes or something.
#1725 [14:02] <MiX-MaN> meh..
#1726 [14:02] <MiX-MaN> i crap gigabytes
#1727 [14:02] <Balee> Omigod2gigabytes!
#1728 [14:02] <Balee> :P
#1729 [14:02] <MiX-MaN> heh
#1730 [14:02] <Balee> Ooooh, new objectives!
#1731 [14:02] <MiX-MaN> gigabyte crapping?
#1732 [14:02] <Balee> Lol, no.
#1733 [14:02] <Balee> Steam.
#1734 [14:02] <MiX-MaN> heh
#1735 [14:03] <Balee> Something I can complete, for a change.
#1736 [14:03] <MiX-MaN> some steam deal going on right now?
#1737 [14:04] * MiX-MaN sees the message in #minecraft
#1737 [14:04] <MiX-MaN> i guess so
#1738 [14:04] <Balee> Message?
#1739 [14:04] <MiX-MaN> [13:03:57] <FusionX> today's steam deals are so awesome!
#1740 [14:04] <MiX-MaN> [13:04:06] <@bildramer> steam has awesome deals
#1741 [14:04] <MiX-MaN> heh
#1742 [14:04] <wannabemac> Hmm.
#1743 [14:04] <Balee> Spammer!
#1744 [14:04] <Balee> :P
#1745 [14:04] <MiX-MaN> :(
#1746 [14:04] <wannabemac> ?
#1747 [14:05] <p0pcorn72> I know this is almost impossible to predict, but does anybody have any idea how long the server will be overloaded for?
#1748 [14:06] <MiX-MaN> about treefiddy
#1749 [14:06] <Balee> Good question.
#1750 [14:06] <Balee> I really have no idea.
#1751 [14:06] <Balee> It could be gone by tomorrow.
#1752 [14:06] <Balee> Or it could extend to the New Year.
#1753 [14:06] <Morrolan> p0pcorn72: Assuming Mojang doesn't fix anything I'd go for somewhere around the 31st.
#1754 [14:07] <Balee> There's really no telling.
#1755 [14:07] <Morrolan> At latest when school holidays are over I guess.
#1756 [14:07] <Morrolan> Maybe we should take bets, look who get the closest. :P
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#1758 [14:09] <mr_boo> why doesnt mincraft's web load after transaction
#1759 [14:10] <Balee> It...
#1760 [14:10] <Morrolan> It is somewhat overloaded curr.
#1761 [14:10] <Morrolan> Grr.
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#1763 [14:14] <MaDCaTz> I am getting a "User not premium" error when trying to login to minecraft
#1764 [14:14] <MaDCaTz> I had paid about 2 months ago, and it was working fine at the time. how do i fix this issue?
#1765 [14:15] <Morrolan> Did you buy it from the official site? (www.minecraft.net)
#1766 [14:15] <MaDCaTz> yes
#1767 [14:15] <Morrolan> And I assume you did not revoke the payment?
#1768 [14:15] <MaDCaTz> i definatly did not
#1769 [14:15] <MaDCaTz> it was working for 2 months
#1770 [14:16] <wannabemac> Hmm
#1771 [14:16] <Morrolan> Are you 100% sure that you are trying to log in with the correct username?
#1772 [14:17] <MaDCaTz> yes im sure, its the same one i had saved
#1773 [14:17] <Balee> Server issues!
#1774 [14:17] <MaDCaTz> "MaDCaTz"
#1775 [14:17] <wannabemac> ?
#1776 [14:18] <wannabemac> If you paid for it 2 months ago, and it was working for 2 months, then it still works.
#1777 [14:18] <Morrolan> It could be either of two issues now. Right now Mojang's server is simply overloaded, and it could be that this leads to this issue now.
#1778 [14:18] <Morrolan> Or it could be that something somewhere went terribly wrong, in which case you'll have to contact Mojang. I suggest you wait a day or two and if it still doesn't work by then send a mail to help@mojang.com , MaDCaTz.
#1779 [14:20] <MaDCaTz> damn, i was looking forward to playing!
#1780 [14:20] <MaDCaTz> bought some beers and everything lol
#1781 [14:20] <Morrolan> Heh.
#1782 [14:21] <MaDCaTz> i deleted it to reinstall too
#1783 [14:21] <MaDCaTz> grr
#1784 [14:21] <wannabemac> brb
#1785 [14:21] <Morrolan> In the meantime you could dig up your payment recipe if you feel like it, to make sure that it's not any stupid mistake or something.
#1786 [14:22] <MaDCaTz> trying the .JAR and its saying cannot connect to server
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#1788 [14:25] <MaDCaTz> hmm
#1789 [14:26] <MaDCaTz> i cant remember how i paid
#1790 [14:26] <MaDCaTz> i used an invite code
#1791 [14:26] <MaDCaTz> like gift code
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#1797 [14:35] <mib_36r963> it says my video drivers are not good... I can't load MC. I updated JAVA and still a no go. what next?
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#1799 [14:36] <mib_36r963> Where is Minecraft Support?
#1800 [14:36] <mib_36r963> Email address?
#1801 [14:37] <mib_36r963> Hello?
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#1804 [14:43] <MaDCaTz> im trying to find the same
#1805 [14:43] <MaDCaTz> minecraft lack customer support
#1806 [14:43] <MaDCaTz> i think its time to claim back my payment!
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#1808 [14:44] <Morrolan> First, Mojang does not give out refunds.
#1809 [14:45] <Morrolan> Second, if you want to try your luck with Mojang's official support, go ahead and send a mail to help@mojang.com
#1810 [14:45] <MaDCaTz> well they stole back my account
#1811 [14:45] <MaDCaTz> I redeemed a gift code, but now its saying i havnt
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#1813 [14:45] <Morrolan> They did not. It is either you not remembering the account's name or a bug in the system.
#1814 [14:46] <MaDCaTz> Well i only have the 1 account. and ive checked it on minecraft.net
#1815 [14:46] <MaDCaTz> its asking me to purchase premium.
#1816 [14:46] <MaDCaTz> they dont give refunds, but i can put in a claim
#1817 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> MaDCaTz: what is your Minecraft account name?
#1818 [14:47] <MaDCaTz> MaDCaTz
#1819 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> !paid MaDCaTz
#1820 [14:47] * DopeGhoti pokes AuBot
#1820 [14:47] <MaDCaTz> :\
#1821 [14:48] <MaDCaTz> !paid MaDCaTz
#1822 [14:48] <Morrolan> Their website is pretty much overloaded, DOpe.
#1823 [14:48] <Morrolan> Also, MaDCaTz, using the command again won't lead to anything.
#1824 [14:48] <MaDCaTz> i know :P
#1825 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> MaDCaTz: try logging in at https://account.mojang.com
#1826 [14:50] <MaDCaTz> Error! Oops, unknown username or password.
#1827 [14:51] <MaDCaTz> works at minecraft.net
#1828 [14:51] <MaDCaTz> i bought it from here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180726342927&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:GB:1123
#1829 [14:51] <MaDCaTz> i was emailed gift code
#1830 [14:51] <MaDCaTz> and redeemed it
#1831 [14:51] <Morrolan> Oh, come on.
#1832 [14:51] <MaDCaTz> and it worked, played online for a while
#1833 [14:51] <Morrolan> I ASKED you whether you bought it from the official site.
#1834 [14:51] <MaDCaTz> no you didnt
#1835 [14:52] <Morrolan> Chances are that the guy who sold you that giftcode disputed the payment, therefore rendering the giftcode invalid.
#1836 [14:52] <MaDCaTz> [19:26] <MaDCaTz> i used an invite code
#1837 [14:52] <MaDCaTz> [19:26] * gaben is now known as Biohazard
#1838 [14:52] <MaDCaTz> [19:26] <MaDCaTz> like gift code
#1839 [14:52] <Morrolan> [20:15:16] <@Morrolan> Did you buy it from the official site? (www.minecraft.net)
#1840 [14:52] <Morrolan> [20:15:25] <MaDCaTz> yes
#1841 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> ?? fraud
#1842 [14:52] <MaDCaTz> where do they even buy gift codes from?
#1843 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> from www.minecraft.net
#1844 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> then they sell them to more than one person
#1845 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> it's called 'fraud'
#1846 [14:53] <Morrolan> I am kinda pissed right now. Have a nice day, I need a break.
#1847 [14:53] <Morrolan> I am kinda pissed right now. Have a nice day, I need a break.
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#1849 [14:53] <Morrolan> I am kinda pissed right now. Have a nice day, I need a break.
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#1853 [14:54] <MaDCaTz> ffs
#1854 [14:54] <MaDCaTz> ebay accounts frozen so cant even login to ebay
#1855 [14:57] <MaDCaTz> tracked him down, have his phone number, texting him now
#1856 [14:57] <MaDCaTz> well hes number is listed on his ebay page lol
#1857 [14:59] <MaDCaTz> "Contact me via ebay, im busy with family"
#1858 [14:59] <MaDCaTz> dick head
#1859 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> it is the day after Boxing Day
#1860 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> Calm down.
#1861 [14:59] <MaDCaTz> dont appriate being sold dodgy codes
#1862 [15:00] <MaDCaTz> well have his phone number and address, ill keep pestering him until he sorts it out
#1863 [15:00] <MaDCaTz> he seems to know all about it already though, "contact me on ebay..." instead of "the code should work fine"
#1864 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> Lesson to be learned: never ever buy codes anywhere except from Mojang themselves. They're meant to be given, not sold.
#1865 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> if you want to buy the game, buy it directly.
#1866 [15:05] <MaDCaTz> ill pester this guy untill he gives me a working one. i have his address too
#1867 [15:05] <MaDCaTz> not far from me, 20 miles... worth the drive ;)
#1868 [15:06] <MaDCaTz> im not sure if i can put a paypal claim against him
#1869 [15:06] <MaDCaTz> been more than 60 days
#1870 [15:07] <MiX-MaN> damn.. the 1x1 map is'nt correct either
#1871 [15:07] <wannabemac> ?
#1872 [15:07] <wannabemac> What are you guys takling about?
#1873 [15:07] <wannabemac> talking*
#1874 [15:08] <MaDCaTz> someone sold me a gift code. and now its not working and my account is no longer premium
#1875 [15:08] <MiX-MaN> trying to load up one of these earth world maps.. but the orientation of the map is off.. :(
#1876 [15:08] <wannabemac> Hmm.
#1877 [15:08] <wannabemac> They sound like a asshole.
#1878 [15:09] <wannabemac> Do you have there contact information?
#1879 [15:09] <MaDCaTz> yes, unfortunatly for them... i found their phonenumber and address
#1880 [15:09] <wannabemac> Hmm.
#1881 [15:09] <wannabemac> Email Bomb time.
#1882 [15:09] <MaDCaTz> hes pissy that ive texted him
#1883 [15:09] <wannabemac> lol
#1884 [15:09] <MaDCaTz> saying hes busy with family
#1885 [15:09] <wannabemac> I suggest a email bomb.
#1886 [15:09] <wannabemac> But that is just me.
#1887 [15:09] <MaDCaTz> email bomb? hes 20 miles away from me
#1888 [15:09] <MaDCaTz> worth the drive
#1889 [15:09] <wannabemac> Ehh.
#1890 [15:09] <MaDCaTz> baseball bat job
#1891 [15:09] <wannabemac> I wouldnt do that.
#1892 [15:09] <MaDCaTz> i couldnt care less lol
#1893 [15:10] <wannabemac> The thing is, he could then file a lawsuit.
#1894 [15:10] <MaDCaTz> probs cost the same in petrol, but hate these foren cunts
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#1897 [15:10] <MaDCaTz> whoops
#1898 [15:10] <MaDCaTz> i still couldnt care less, the police here are crap
#1899 [15:10] <wannabemac> mhmm.
#1900 [15:10] <MaDCaTz> they wouldnt bother, as they dont know it was me
#1901 [15:11] <wannabemac> Ehh, dont do it.
#1902 [15:11] <MaDCaTz> i called the police to report a sexual assult on a girl, took over an hour to turn up
#1903 [15:11] <wannabemac> Hmm, you live in Norway.
#1904 [15:11] <MaDCaTz> on christmass eve, neibours had someone set alight to their brand new car.. they still havnt turned up
#1905 [15:12] <MaDCaTz> UK actually
#1906 [15:12] <MaDCaTz> we caught it on our CCTV and everything
#1907 [15:13] <MaDCaTz> "Oh that's horrible! Well i havnt reversed the payment and can only offer assistance though eBay maye"
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#1909 [15:13] <MaDCaTz> Well he made the payment to mojang
#1910 [15:13] <wannabemac> mhmm.
#1911 [15:13] <wannabemac> I need to restart my comp
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#1913 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> ??!
#1914 [15:24] <MaDCaTz> hi
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#1916 [15:25] <macauley82839> hi
#1917 [15:25] <macauley82839> i need help
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#1919 [15:26] <macauley82839> on minecraft
#1920 [15:26] <macauley82839> i need help
#1921 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> Care to be more specific?
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#1923 [15:26] <macauley82839> yes i bought minecraft and everything pressed download
#1924 [15:26] <macauley82839> and it started then i got the blue screen of death
#1925 [15:27] <macauley82839> and my computer shut down
#1926 [15:27] <macauley82839> i tried it again
#1927 [15:27] <macauley82839> and it did the same thing
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#1929 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> If you're getting BSODs, something is wrong either with your Java installation, or with the operating system itself.
#1930 [15:27] <MaDCaTz> sounds like its broken
#1931 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> Have you tried removing and reinstalling Java?
#1932 [15:27] <macauley82839> no
#1933 [15:27] <macauley82839> i do i remove or reinstall java
#1934 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> Perhaps you shoudl try removing and reinstalling Java?
#1935 [15:28] <macauley82839> how??
#1936 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> Go into the Control Panel, into the software manager, and Uninstall any instances of Java which you see
#1937 [15:28] <BuilderMan5555> I am trying to ply Multi player and cannot connect to the server...Communication error. HELP?? I just bought the premium service.
#1938 [15:28] <MaDCaTz> im going to call this guy, should i record the convo for later ammusement?, im slightly intoxicated....
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#1940 [15:28] <macauley82839> ok thank you
#1941 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> BuilderMan5555: Have you tried other servers? It sounds like the server to which you are attempting to connect is down.
#1942 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> MaDCaTz: The answer to that depends on whether the state in which you live is single- or dual-consent for such purposes.
#1943 [15:29] <BuilderMan5555> I do not know of any others. Is there a listing?
#1944 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/servers
#1945 [15:30] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1946 [15:30] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1947 [15:30] <BuilderMan5555> THX bunches!!!
#1948 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> \o
#1949 [15:31] <MaDCaTz> single or dual consent???
#1950 [15:31] <MaDCaTz> oooh
#1951 [15:31] <TheBadShepperd> You don't need to consent if you're all alone
#1952 [15:31] <TheBadShepperd> :D
#1953 [15:32] <MaDCaTz> nooo
#1954 [15:32] <MaDCaTz> he means legally
#1955 [15:32] <MaDCaTz> if i can record a conversation without telling the other person
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#1957 [15:32] <TheBadShepperd> I'm aware.
#1958 [15:33] <TheBadShepperd> I was just making a sex joke. :(
#1959 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> In some states, all parties on the call must consent; in others, only at least one party must consent.
#1960 [15:33] <janelane27> I just bought the game for my son for Christmas and it tells me I need to update the video card drivers. How do I do that? Pls and Thank you
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#1962 [15:38] <MaDCaTz> do you know which video card you have?
#1963 [15:38] <MaDCaTz> or just leave lol
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#1969 [16:06] <`Kelby> i found a spawner in our server world and there is a spinning pig in it.
#1970 [16:06] <`Kelby> does that mean it shoots out pigs, or i just can't tell what it shoots out? its at the top of the dessert
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#1972 [16:08] <mib_a3k2ja> my minecraft will not run on internet explorer why?
#1973 [16:10] <ZEON_ARGUS> my internet will not run the classic multiplayer. I do not know why but it will never load. pls help
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#1975 [16:12] <UnfriendlyFox> Are there any purchasing problems going around?
#1976 [16:13] <ZEON_ARGUS> my internet exe will not load mineraft multi classic
#1977 [16:13] <`Kelby> i think all the good helpers are asleep.
#1978 [16:13] <UnfriendlyFox> oh
#1979 [16:13] <ZEON_ARGUS> ;(
#1980 [16:14] <ZEON_ARGUS> can any1 tell me y
#1981 [16:14] <UnfriendlyFox> Well i tried to buy minecraft on Christmas day and it kept saying that i couldn't use my card for the next 24 hours but when i clicked ok, it said "thanks for purchasing minecraft! Your status should update within the hour."
#1982 [16:18] <`Kelby> maybe it's just super super busy?
#1983 [16:18] <`Kelby> cause lots of ppl got minecraft for christmas?
#1984 [16:20] <ZEON_ARGUS> nah MC is crapped up
#1985 [16:20] <ZEON_ARGUS> it needs to have a faster upgrade
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#1991 [16:24] <TGF> So if I put lava in a furnace, will the bucket then be empty or gone ?
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#1993 [16:25] <ProblemedPlayer> hello
#1994 [16:26] <ProblemedPlayer> does anyone know how to stop the hs errors?
#1995 [16:26] <ProblemedPlayer> i have the whore report if its helpful
#1996 [16:27] <ProblemedPlayer> whole*
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#2002 [16:35] <mib_ppd0i6> i paid for premium minecraft but i got a internal error so i counldn't download it, i went back to the original site but when i downloaded it from there it came up with the classic version, i was logged in at that moment
#2003 [16:35] <ProblemedPlayer> you need to re buy it
#2004 [16:36] <mib_ppd0i6> so i have to pay twice for it- i was billed to my credit card
#2005 [16:36] <ProblemedPlayer> yeah
#2006 [16:36] <ProblemedPlayer> well
#2007 [16:36] <ProblemedPlayer> you might be able to get a refund
#2008 [16:37] <ProblemedPlayer> if you show the statement and it says you have brought it
#2009 [16:37] <mib_ppd0i6> k, tnx...... i'll try that, do u know where i could do that
#2010 [16:37] <ProblemedPlayer> no, sorry
#2011 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> No, you do not need to re.. what?
#2012 [16:39] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: I believe this is the cause of the irate "I PAID TWICE AND GOT NOTHING >:U" people
#2013 [16:39] <oldtopman> ProblemedPlayer: Why did you tell him that?
#2014 [16:39] <oldtopman> ProblemedPlayer: Why did you tell him that?
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#2016 [16:39] <oldtopman> /facefesk
#2017 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> Because he wanted to get banned.
#2018 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> Wish granted.
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#2022 [17:01] <ryanxpei> is there a way to lower the amount of skeletons that spawn? apparently my server is spawning too many of them heh
#2023 [17:02] <ryanxpei> I think it's just cause they are building close to my spawn zone which monsters are not allowed to spawn inside so they congregate in the close outside area
#2024 [17:04] <SimenOlai> how do i use the rcon feature?
#2025 [17:06] <MinecraftClassicBot> Console [Graversimen]: i got this, minecraft classic server bot, and im not afraid to use it
#2026 [17:06] <SimenOlai> so how do i use the rcon feature? :D
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#2028 [17:07] <Nathaniel> Hi. Minecraft is crashing at startup (the launcher), with the errors "segmentation fault" or "expecting (". OS: Mac OS 10.6.7
#2029 [17:08] <Nathaniel> worked perfectly fine until earlier today
#2030 [17:08] <Nathaniel> I've redownloaded, deleted the application support folder
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#2032 [17:12] <SimenOlai> ??> Nathaniel mac/reinst
#2033 [17:12] <VoxelHead> Nathaniel: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2034 [17:12] <VoxelHead> Nathaniel: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2035 [17:12] <SimenOlai> just do it again :)
#2036 [17:12] <Nathaniel> done that already VoxelHead
#2037 [17:13] <SimenOlai> ??> Nathaniel bot
#2038 [17:13] <VoxelHead> Nathaniel: (bot) I just type quickly.
#2039 [17:13] <Nathaniel> ?
#2040 [17:13] <Nathaniel> oh
#2041 [17:13] <Nathaniel> oh
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#2043 [17:13] <Nathaniel> #fail
#2044 [17:13] <Nathaniel> :/
#2045 [17:14] <Nathaniel> SimenOlai, so yea, i already did that
#2046 [17:14] <SimenOlai> voxelhead is a bot :)
#2047 [17:14] <SimenOlai> hm
#2048 [17:14] <SimenOlai> ?? mac/segmentation
#2049 [17:14] <SimenOlai> :(
#2050 [17:14] <SimenOlai> lol
#2051 [17:14] <Nathaniel> lol
#2052 [17:15] <SimenOlai> DopeGhoti, could you change it to 4 instead of 3?
#2053 [17:15] <SimenOlai> its kinda annoying xD
#2054 [17:15] <Nathaniel> lol
#2055 [17:15] <SimenOlai> say lol again
#2056 [17:15] <SimenOlai> do it :P
#2057 [17:15] <SimenOlai> please
#2058 [17:16] <SimenOlai> say lol
#2059 [17:16] <SimenOlai> :(
#2060 [17:16] <Nathaniel> why?
#2061 [17:16] <SimenOlai> now you ruined
#2062 [17:16] <SimenOlai> thanks for wasting my time
#2063 [17:16] <Nathaniel> ?
#2064 [17:16] * SimenOlai leaves
#2064 [17:17] <Nathaniel> Can anyone help me?
#2065 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> ??> SimenOlai do/,
#2066 [17:17] <SimenOlai> GreyVulpine, now we could have that list :)
#2067 [17:17] <VoxelHead> SimenOlai: (do/,) The Enter key is not a comma. Please don't flood the channel with many many lines of just two or three words each. Learn how to use complete sentences, and commas.
#2068 [17:17] <SimenOlai> o.O
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#2070 [17:18] <Nathaniel> Seriously.
#2071 [17:18] <SimenOlai> Nathaniel, if we had a list that i asked for, we could have asked guys who knows about macs :P
#2072 [17:18] <Nathaniel> what list?
#2073 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> a list? What sort of list?
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#2075 [17:18] <SimenOlai> but GreyVulpine thinks its a bad idea
#2076 [17:18] <wannabemac> Hello
#2077 [17:19] <SimenOlai> let me find when i say it DopeGhoti :P
#2078 [17:19] * SimenOlai scrolls far up
#2078 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> morning, wannabemac.
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#2083 [17:25] <Morrolan> 'lo, I'm happy again. ;)
#2084 [17:25] <SimenOlai> ok DopeGhoti
#2085 [17:25] <SimenOlai> http://pastebin.com/NhdSd0uH
#2086 [17:26] <SimenOlai> read the idea :P
#2087 [17:26] <SimenOlai> and comments from 2 op's
#2088 [17:26] <SimenOlai> Morrolan, liked the idea, right? :)
#2089 [17:26] <Morrolan> It has its advantages. *shrug*
#2090 [17:27] <Morrolan> On the other hand we could just as well put that list on the forum somewhere. Then we can just highlight one at a time.
#2091 [17:27] <SimenOlai> same with pastebin link
#2092 [17:27] <SimenOlai> :P
#2093 [17:27] <Morrolan> Somehow a forum topic seems more, uh, definite to me.
#2094 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> I'm with the others; I'd rather the channel stay in the channel. If the people with Mac-fu are here, they'd already be answering questions
#2095 [17:28] <Morrolan> Less like a temporary solution. Either way, both would work.
#2096 [17:28] <SimenOlai> DopeGhoti, what if they afk or not in irc window at moment? then we just highlight, and they may come :D
#2097 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> it's best to minimize the metaquestions and get straight to business, rather than having to do the "Can I ask a question" "Yes." "of whom?" "Them." dance.
#2098 [17:29] <SimenOlai> if you see trough the chat here, you see many people havent got help because not people of that OS was there to help :P
#2099 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> Also, if there are more OS-specific answers we need, they should be added to VoxelHead, with the OS/ prefix.
#2100 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> e. g. mac/reinst/tool
#2101 [17:30] <SimenOlai> like Nathaniel, he/she is still waiting
#2102 [17:30] <Nathaniel> indeed.
#2103 [17:30] <Morrolan> I guess the question is whether you think that the people who feel like helping are already actively participating, or whether some of them are idling and would need a highlight. *shrug*
#2104 [17:30] <SimenOlai> if we had a list, we could go in, search for name in list, highlight, and they come help! :D
#2105 [17:30] <SimenOlai> poor Nathaniel, we have no list, so it takes longer time :P
#2106 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> Case in point: I'm here, and I know all three supported OSs, and we're here kibitzing about metaquestions rather than addressing Nathaniel's problem.
#2107 [17:31] <wannabemac> God damn it.
#2108 [17:31] <wannabemac> GroupManager is not updated.
#2109 [17:31] <Nathaniel> DopeGhoti, ever come across this before?
#2110 [17:31] <SimenOlai> DopeGhoti, you are not here often :P (like answering)
#2111 [17:31] <SimenOlai> wannabemac, bpermissions is the best :)
#2112 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> I've been working and with family a lot this weekend. :p
#2113 [17:31] <wannabemac> I disagree.
#2114 [17:31] <SimenOlai> why?
#2115 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> Nathaniel: scrolling up, please stand by.
#2116 [17:32] <wannabemac> I have always used groupmanager, yes I know, I sound like a old person when I say that.
#2117 [17:32] <SimenOlai> [23:07:48] <Nathaniel> Hi. Minecraft is crashing at startup (the launcher), with the errors "segmentation fault" or "expecting (". OS: Mac OS 10.6.7
#2118 [17:32] <SimenOlai> i used groupmanager too
#2119 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> ??> Nathaniel mac/profile
#2120 [17:32] <VoxelHead> Nathaniel: (mac/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2121 [17:32] <VoxelHead> Nathaniel: (mac/profile) Please create a new system account (System Preferences => Accounts, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2122 [17:32] <SimenOlai> then,, i found, BPERMISSIONS!!!!!
#2123 [17:32] <Nathaniel> kk
#2124 [17:32] <Nathaniel> brb
#2125 [17:33] <wannabemac> If anything, I am going to switch over to PermissionsBukkit.
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#2127 [17:33] <SimenOlai> Use bPermissions :D
#2128 [17:33] <SimenOlai> hi frogaincia
#2129 [17:33] <SimenOlai> you need help?
#2130 [17:34] <frogaincia> i need help
#2131 [17:34] <SimenOlai> with what? :)
#2132 [17:35] <frogaincia> when ever i try to join one of the severs i play on it gets stuck at downloading terrain
#2133 [17:35] <wannabemac> Eh, I am staying with Group Manager, I will wait for the update.
#2134 [17:35] <SimenOlai> hmm, either you or the server has bad internet or you have slow computer
#2135 [17:35] <Boreeas> frogaincia: What version of java do you use?
#2136 [17:35] <frogaincia> i dont know
#2137 [17:35] <SimenOlai> Boreeas, i got this, relax D:
#2138 [17:36] <Boreeas> ??> frogaincia java/version
#2139 [17:36] <VoxelHead> frogaincia: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2140 [17:36] <VoxelHead> frogaincia: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2141 [17:36] <SimenOlai> frogaincia, do you have any texturepacks ?
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#2145 [17:36] <frogaincia> no i dont use tectur packs
#2146 [17:37] <Boreeas> frogaincia: Could you follow the link VoxelHead posted, and tell us what result you get?
#2147 [17:37] <frogaincia> i have v6 update 26
#2148 [17:37] <frogaincia> for java
#2149 [17:37] <Boreeas> frogaincia: Try updating java
#2150 [17:37] <frogaincia> k
#2151 [17:37] <SimenOlai> ok, then its not HD texturepack..... frogaincia could you (after updating java) go to speedtest.net and give us/me the result?
#2152 [17:37] <SimenOlai> :P
#2153 [17:38] <frogaincia> 'kk
#2154 [17:38] <DopeGhoti> also, frogaincia, does this problem present itself on other servers, or just the one which you are having trouble with?
#2155 [17:38] <frogaincia> how do i update
#2156 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/java
#2157 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> ?? getjava
#2158 [17:39] <VoxelHead> getjava: http://www.java.com/en/download/
#2159 [17:39] <frogaincia> no its only one server
#2160 [17:39] <Boreeas> Ah, that changes issues
#2161 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> Then the problem is almost definitely with that server.
#2162 [17:39] <SimenOlai> frogaincia, they need less plugins or they need better internet :D
#2163 [17:39] <Nathaniel> Err
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#2165 [17:40] <Nathaniel> yea, its system-wide
#2166 [17:40] <frogaincia> but everyone else is on
#2167 [17:40] <SimenOlai> who else?
#2168 [17:40] <frogaincia> like it sais there are people online
#2169 [17:40] <SimenOlai> could you tell me the server ip in pm? i will see if i get the same problem
#2170 [17:40] <frogaincia> kk
#2171 [17:40] <SimenOlai> ?? rcon
#2172 [17:40] <SimenOlai> ?? use/rcon
#2173 [17:41] <SimenOlai> D:
#2174 [17:41] <frogaincia> mcserver.nkings.com
#2175 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> !check mcserver.nkings.com
#2176 [17:41] <SimenOlai> its ;
#2177 [17:41] <frogaincia> k
#2178 [17:41] * DopeGhoti kickstarts AuBot
#2178 [17:41] <SimenOlai> :D
#2179 [17:42] <SimenOlai> ;check mcserver.nkings.com
#2180 [17:42] <WugBot> mcserver.nkings.com:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Now Running 1.0.0 With Bukkit (9/50)
#2181 [17:42] <SimenOlai> with bukkit, 9 on it :D
#2182 [17:42] <SimenOlai> i get on fine
#2183 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> SimenOlai: I prefer AuBot's test because it also checks latency to the server :p
#2184 [17:42] <SimenOlai> :O
#2185 [17:43] <Nathaniel> DopeGhoti, so, it's system-wide
#2186 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> Nathaniel: Hm, that doesn't bode well.
#2187 [17:43] <frogaincia> it said on the 24th there was a private event and it said it would be back on the 26th
#2188 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> Nathaniel: let me see if macports has an alternate JRE available.
#2189 [17:43] <Nathaniel> kk
#2190 [17:43] <Boreeas> --- mcserver.nkings.com ping statistics ---
#2191 [17:43] <Boreeas> 10 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 9003ms
#2192 [17:43] <Nathaniel> it worked perfect until earlier today
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#2194 [17:43] <SimenOlai> :O
#2195 [17:44] <Nathaniel> maybe java updated itself and that caused a problem or something
#2196 [17:44] <EndoHash> Er can i pla have help
#2197 [17:44] <EndoHash> pls*
#2198 [17:44] <Boreeas> EndoHash: With what?
#2199 [17:44] <EndoHash> well...
#2200 [17:44] <EndoHash> oh wait
#2201 [17:44] <EndoHash> nvm
#2202 [17:44] <Nathaniel> le fail
#2203 [17:44] <Boreeas> Well, that was fast ^^
#2204 [17:44] <EndoHash> you guys cant help with skin problems?
#2205 [17:44] <SimenOlai> nope :D
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#2207 [17:45] <EndoHash> yeah
#2208 [17:45] <EndoHash> yeah
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#2210 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> Nathaniel: one moment, I think I have something for you
#2211 [17:45] <SimenOlai> he was weird
#2212 [17:45] <Nathaniel> Thanks :D
#2213 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> ??+ mac/reinstall-java|To reinstall Java on Mac OS X, refer to the following page for directions.;;http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2009051215025819
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#2215 [17:45] <SimenOlai_phone> Hi
#2216 [17:45] <SimenOlai> Hi
#2217 [17:45] <SimenOlai> :D
#2218 [17:46] <Nathaniel> yokeydoke
#2219 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> Nathaniel: go to that site and see if those directions help - you'll be removing and reinstalling Java.
#2220 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> good luck!
#2221 [17:46] <SimenOlai> DopeGhoti,
#2222 [17:46] <SimenOlai> is there a ?? command for how to use the rcon feature? :D
#2223 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> please define rcon.
#2224 [17:46] <SimenOlai> rcon in minecraft?
#2225 [17:47] <SimenOlai> remotecontrol ?
#2226 [17:47] <Nathaniel> DopeGhoti - 1. Im on 10.6, not 10.5
#2227 [17:47] <Nathaniel> Two. I don't have the install disk atm
#2228 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> Nathaniel: Snow Leopard is close enough that it shouldn't matter. But lacking the install media.. hmm.
#2229 [17:47] <SimenOlai> grr
#2230 [17:47] <Nathaniel> ill look up somewhere else
#2231 [17:47] <SimenOlai> how do i use the rcon feature D: D:
#2232 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> Nathaniel: check this: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20050416190516903
#2233 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> the file names might differ a little, but that should do the trick.
#2234 [17:48] <Boreeas> In the danger of repeating myself: lolmac
#2235 [17:48] <SimenOlai> lololmaclolol
#2236 [17:48] <SimenOlai> :D
#2237 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> This is not the place for OS Evangelism.
#2238 [17:48] <SimenOlai> when i see in this channel, mac is very hard to ues
#2239 [17:48] <SimenOlai> use*
#2240 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> They're generally not.
#2241 [17:49] <SimenOlai> :P
#2242 [17:49] <Boreeas> DopeGhoti: I usually refrain from saying anything else
#2243 [17:49] <SimenOlai> but how do i use the rcon feature?!?
#2244 [17:49] <Boreeas> <.<
#2245 [17:49] <Boreeas> SimenOlai
#2246 [17:49] <SimenOlai> do you know Boreeas
#2247 [17:49] <SimenOlai> what?
#2248 [17:49] <Boreeas> In the console, type shutdown 0
#2249 [17:49] <Boreeas> That will do
#2250 [17:49] <SimenOlai> ok
#2251 [17:50] <SimenOlai> IT WORKED!! THANKS
#2252 [17:50] <Boreeas> Great
#2253 [17:50] <SimenOlai> (sarcasm)
#2254 [17:50] <Nathaniel> DopeGhoti, thats for 10.3....
#2255 [17:50] <Boreeas> Geez, sherlock, you say?
#2256 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> Nathaniel: Yes, which is why I said the filenames would differ
#2257 [17:50] <SimenOlai> Nathaniel, just try it
#2258 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> nut the principle is the same
#2259 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> s/nut/but/
#2260 [17:50] <Nathaniel> well there is nothing relating to java in /Library/Reciepts...
#2261 [17:51] <SimenOlai> DopeGhoti, Boreeas is giving me false information
#2262 [17:51] <SimenOlai> when i did that, i got banned for 2 days
#2263 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> Nathaniel: try going to the Mac KB and manually downloading the JAva package, and installing it.
#2264 [17:51] <Nathaniel> Mac KB?
#2265 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> SimenOlai: apparently, having STFW and RTFMed, the answer is: set up your server.properties file, then telnet in.
#2266 [17:51] <Morrolan> SimenOlai: The current RCON protocol is a horrible abdomination of the actual RCON protocl. I don't even think it actually works.
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#2268 [17:52] <SimenOlai> telnet in?
#2269 [17:52] <SimenOlai> wut
#2270 [17:52] <Morrolan> Really, don't use it. Use a server wrapper like the Remote Toolkit instead.
#2271 [17:52] <Morrolan> Telnet is a network protocol.
#2272 [17:52] <SimenOlai> :O
#2273 [17:52] <Morrolan> Allows you to connect somewhere from somewhere else.
#2274 [17:52] <SimenOlai> bah, screw rcon, i use Mobile Admin plugin to bukkit
#2275 [17:52] <Morrolan> Or, to say it with fancier words: "Telnet is a network protocol used on the Internet or local area networks to provide a bidirectional interactive text-oriented communications facility using a virtual terminal connection. User data is interspersed in-band with Telnet control information in an 8-bit byte oriented data connection over the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)."
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#2277 [17:53] <SimenOlai> rcon too hard to explain xD
#2278 [17:53] <SimenOlai> udenrstand*
#2279 [17:53] <SimenOlai> understand* ...
#2280 [17:53] <SimenOlai> i hate when i fail in grammar fix
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#2282 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> Nathaniel: one moment, I'll have a direct link for you
#2283 [17:54] <Nathaniel> <3
#2284 [17:55] <SimenOlai> but DopeGhoti
#2285 [17:55] <SimenOlai> i had another idea too
#2286 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> Nathaniel: http://support.apple.com/downloads/DL1359/en_US/JavaForMacOSX10.5Update10.dmg
#2287 [17:55] <SimenOlai> a mchelp wiki website
#2288 [17:55] <Nathaniel> thats for OSX10.5
#2289 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> I thought you said you had Leopard.
#2290 [17:56] <SimenOlai> Nathaniel, just try what DopeGhoti says to you
#2291 [17:56] <Nathaniel> snow leopard
#2292 [17:56] <Nathaniel> ill try anyway
#2293 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> .. one moment
#2294 [17:56] <Nathaniel> kk
#2295 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> no, let me get you the right file
#2296 [17:56] <SimenOlai> DopeGhoti, is the gu...??
#2297 [17:56] <SimenOlai> DopeGhoti, are you boy or girl?
#2298 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> SimenOlai: Yes, I am.
#2299 [17:56] <Nathaniel> :D
#2300 [17:56] <SimenOlai> lol
#2301 [17:56] <SimenOlai> both then?
#2302 [17:56] <Nathaniel> Please specify your gender.
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#2304 [17:57] <SimenOlai> wtf
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#2306 [17:57] <Nathaniel> lol
#2307 [17:57] <SimenOlai> did i lose internet and then got it again on my phone
#2308 [17:58] <Morrolan> Since his name, according to /whois, is Rob, I'd go for "male", Nathaniel. ;)
#2309 [17:58] <Nathaniel> lol
#2310 [17:58] <SimenOlai> * SimenOlai_phone_ (~SimenOlai@77.19.89.83.tmi.telenormobil.no) .....* [SimenOlai_phone] (~SimenOlai@77.16.108.70.tmi.telenormobil.no)
#2311 [17:58] <SimenOlai> its not same ip!!
#2312 [17:58] <SimenOlai> wow, what if someone abuse it?
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#2314 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> Nathaniel: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1360
#2315 [18:00] <Nathaniel> thanks.
#2316 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> (Apple's site is almost, but not quite, as bad as Oracle with respect to finding specific files.)
#2317 [18:00] <Nathaniel> indeed
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#2319 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> "No, Apple, I would not like information on installing Java on Lion. That's what I had '"Snow Leopard"' in the cearch criteria."
#2320 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> s/cearch/search/
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#2322 [18:03] <Nathaniel> DopeGhoti - http://c.nath.is/Cuc1
#2323 [18:03] <Nathaniel> weird
#2324 [18:03] <SimenOlai_phone_> Tlhcf
#2325 [18:03] <Nathaniel> the site says 10.6.4+
#2326 [18:03] <SimenOlai_phone_> Ops
#2327 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> Nathaniel: well, what version are you running?
#2328 [18:03] <Nathaniel> 10.6.7
#2329 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> (Apple -> About this Mac)
#2330 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> Try getting the update to 10.6.8
#2331 [18:03] <Nathaniel> Errrr
#2332 [18:03] <Nathaniel> I can't (long story)
#2333 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> ..is this a Hackintosh?
#2334 [18:04] <SimenOlai> lol
#2335 [18:04] <Nathaniel> Indeed-y
#2336 [18:04] <Nathaniel> lol
#2337 [18:04] <SimenOlai> hack in tosh
#2338 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> not so long a story, then.
#2339 [18:04] <Nathaniel> well
#2340 [18:04] <Nathaniel> that's the short route
#2341 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> (:
#2342 [18:04] <Nathaniel> :D
#2343 [18:04] <Nathaniel> stupid java
#2344 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> unfortunately, most of their update packages require the latest updates to be installed
#2345 [18:04] <Nathaniel> hm
#2346 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> I don't know the workarounds Hackintoshes use for that, as I use OSX natively.
#2347 [18:05] <Nathaniel> what about an alternative jre?
#2348 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> I checked macports.org, and there doesn't seem to be one there
#2349 [18:05] <Nathaniel> hmph
#2350 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> you could try building your own from source?
#2351 [18:05] <Nathaniel> 0.o
#2352 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> (which you'd get from Oracle)
#2353 [18:06] <Nathaniel> err
#2354 [18:06] <Nathaniel> `how would i do that?
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#2356 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> Nathaniel: http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/2009/05/17 seems to be a good starting point
#2357 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> you might also want to install XCode.
#2358 [18:07] <Nathaniel> i have xcode
#2359 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> I figured you might
#2360 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> That's about as far as I can lead you though
#2361 [18:08] <Nathaniel> okay doke
#2362 [18:08] <Nathaniel> thanks anyway
#2363 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> I've already been an intermediary between you and Google (:
#2364 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> Good luck!
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#2366 [18:10] <SimenOlai> sooo
#2367 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> A needle pulling thread?
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#2369 [18:12] <Jepson10> Hello
#2370 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> Salutations, allegedly sentient being.
#2371 [18:13] <Jepson10> i have bouth minecraft får some mounts ago
#2372 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> You.. bot Minecraft for your horse?
#2373 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> s/bot/bought/
#2374 [18:13] <Jepson10> and now it stands that i am not premium?
#2375 [18:14] <geraldbrent> !up minecraft.net
#2376 [18:14] <GreyBot> geraldbrent: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2377 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> geraldbrent: I think you mean !isdown
#2378 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> oh, right, AuBot is broken.
#2379 [18:15] <Jepson10> NO when i start minecraft on my pc and write username and passeord it stands user not premium :(
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#2381 [18:16] <Jepson10> it have bien so for some weeks
#2382 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> Jepson10: are you able to log in at https://account.mojang.com ?
#2383 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> Jepson10: are you able to log in at https://account.mojang.com ?
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#2385 [18:19] <Jepson10> No i can't but i can log in to minecrafts page minecraft.com
#2386 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> That's not Minecraft's page.
#2387 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> it's minecraft.net
#2388 [18:20] <Jepson10> same shit
#2389 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> minecraft.com is owned by some company in australia
#2390 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> not Sweeden.
#2391 [18:20] <Jepson10> okey sorry!
#2392 [18:20] <Jepson10> No i can't but i can log in to minecrafts page minecraft.cnet
#2393 [18:21] <Jepson10> No i can't but i can log in to minecrafts page minecraft.net*
#2394 [18:21] <Jepson10> http://www.minecraft.net
#2395 [18:21] <Jepson10> happy
#2396 [18:21] <Jepson10> <?!
#2397 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> Try migrating your account at account.mojang.com and logging in afterwards to minecraft.net using your account's email address rather than the account name.
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#2399 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> More nonplussed than happy at your vitriolic reaction to my trying to help.
#2400 [18:22] <Jepson10> thanks dude
#2401 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> You're welcome.
#2402 [18:24] <Jepson10> it don't work
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#2404 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> What don't [sic] work? The account migration? Logging in after doing so?
#2405 [18:27] <Nathaniel> DopeGhoti, that failed
#2406 [18:27] <Jepson10> Account migration?
#2407 [18:27] <Jepson10> sorry bad english
#2408 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> Jepson10: at https://account.mojang.com/
#2409 [18:30] <Jepson10> but i have never registed me on https://account.mojang.com/
#2410 [18:30] <Nathaniel> error report from mc - http://c.nath.is/Cui3
#2411 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> Jepson10: do so.
#2412 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> Nathaniel: you could try
#2413 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> ?? mac/permissions
#2414 [18:31] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#2415 [18:31] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#2416 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> other than that, I'm out of ideas.
#2417 [18:31] <Morrolan> What a neat error report, Nathaniel.
#2418 [18:31] <Nathaniel> tried that too.
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#2420 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> I see that you're running it on a Dell (: Try a Linux liveCD maybe?
#2421 [18:32] <Nathaniel> DopeGhoti, no cd drive :P
#2422 [18:32] <Jepson10> are you taking to me?
#2423 [18:32] <auscompgeek> Live USB then :P
#2424 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> Nathaniel: LiveUSBStick, then
#2425 [18:33] <Nathaniel> lol
#2426 [18:34] <Jepson10> !HELP! when i trying to loggin on minecraft it stands user not premium
#2427 [18:34] <auscompgeek> DopeGhoti: That's what I just said :P
#2428 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> I notices.
#2429 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> er, noticed.
#2430 [18:34] <Jepson10> but i have bouth it some mounts ago
#2431 [18:34] <auscompgeek> Jepson10: yeah yeah we got the message the first time round
#2432 [18:34] <Nathaniel> hm
#2433 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> Jepson10: have you migrated your account at https://account.mojang.com/ yet?
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#2436 [18:37] <Vith> Who do I talk to about account issues?
#2437 [18:38] <Jepson10> yes now i have
#2438 [18:38] <Boreeas> Vith: Write an e-mail to help@mojang.com
#2439 [18:39] <Vith> Thanks!
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#2441 [18:39] <Boreeas> Vith: We sadly can't help you here, we are not affiliated with mojang
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#2443 [18:39] <Jepson10> and now?
#2444 [18:40] <Kouga> minecraft crashed, so I backed up my save, and reinstalled minecraft. Java updated, drivers updated, minecraft is still crashing.
#2445 [18:40] <SimenOlai> jepson whats ur username
#2446 [18:40] <SimenOlai> kouga how crashing?
#2447 [18:40] <Jepson10> jepson10
#2448 [18:40] <Kouga> right after I login, and before main menu opens
#2449 [18:40] <SimenOlai> !paid jepson10
#2450 [18:40] <Boreeas> !paid jepson10
#2451 [18:41] <SimenOlai> ?paid jepson10
#2452 [18:41] <SimenOlai> ;paid jepson10
#2453 [18:41] <Boreeas> SimenOlai: First of all, there is some lag
#2454 [18:41] <WugBot> jepson10 has NOT paid for minecraft.
#2455 [18:41] <SimenOlai> lol
#2456 [18:41] <SimenOlai> big lag
#2457 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> SimenOlai: PLease stop flooding the channel.
#2458 [18:41] <Jepson10> yes i have paid some mounts ago
#2459 [18:41] <Boreeas> SimenOlai: Secondly, if I remember correctly, AuBot is ignoring you anyways
#2460 [18:41] <SimenOlai> i didnt flood?
#2461 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> I just watched you.
#2462 [18:42] <SimenOlai> not my fault there are lag
#2463 [18:42] <Kouga> http://mibpaste.com/HPAUWN <-- crash report
#2464 [18:42] * SimenOlai cries in a corner
#2464 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> No, but it's your fault that you're flooding. Stop it.
#2465 [18:42] <Jepson10> !some help please!
#2466 [18:42] <SimenOlai> org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Could not create context
#2467 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> Jepson10: you said you had converted your account. Now try going to www.minecraft.net and logging in using your email address rather than your Minecraft name.
#2468 [18:43] <Boreeas> Jepson10: Did you get a confirmation e-mail that they received your payment?
#2469 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> ??> Kouga win/profile
#2470 [18:44] <VoxelHead> Kouga: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2471 [18:44] <VoxelHead> Kouga: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#2473 [18:44] <Jepson10> !yes i have played alot but one day when i shuld play it stands that i was not premuim!
#2474 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> ??> Jepson10 account
#2475 [18:45] <VoxelHead> Jepson10: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#2476 [18:45] <VoxelHead> Jepson10: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#2477 [18:45] <Jepson10> ! and yes i can loggin to minecraft.net
#2478 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> Jepson10: when you log in at minecraft.net and go to your Profile page, does it still indicate you're not bought the game?
#2479 [18:49] <Jepson10> i Profile
#2480 [18:49] <Jepson10> Player name: jepson10
#2481 [18:49] <Jepson10> E-mail: j*******@h******.com (parts of address are hidden)
#2482 [18:49] <Jepson10> Click here to change your password
#2483 [18:49] <Jepson10> Change Skin
#2484 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> !paid jepson10
#2485 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> lordy, the MC site is slow today.
#2486 [18:50] <Jepson10> that was what stands on profile
#2487 [18:51] * |Kiikun| figured out the likelyest email address for Jepson10.
#2487 [18:51] <Nathaniel> .........
#2488 [18:52] <|Kiikun|> btw. hi :P
#2489 [18:52] <Jepson10> !help!
#2490 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> "jepson10@hotmail.com"?
#2491 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> (:
#2492 [18:52] <|Kiikun|> ;haspaid Jepson10
#2493 [18:52] <Jepson10> yes
#2494 [18:52] <|Kiikun|> :P
#2495 [18:52] <Jepson10> what du you men with
#2496 [18:53] <Jepson10> ;haspaid jepson10
#2497 [18:53] <|Kiikun|> ok wugbot slow too
#2498 [18:53] <auscompgeek> DopeGhoti: ikr
#2499 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> Jepson10: Minecraft.net reports your username as not having paid. When you bought your account, where did you buy it from?
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#2501 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> !topic add Minecraft.net is VERY slow today.
#2502 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> !topic -1
#2503 [18:53] <|Kiikun|> Jepson10: another bot's command to do what aubot shoudl ahve been douing
#2504 [18:53] <Jepson10> minecraft.com
#2505 [18:53] <Kouga> it won't let me open minecraft on another account
#2506 [18:54] <|Kiikun|> Kouga: only premium accounts can play minecraft.
#2507 [18:54] <Kouga> I meant for windows
#2508 [18:55] <Kouga> on another user account, it won't let me open minecraft
#2509 [18:55] <|Kiikun|> Kouga: does that wundows user happen to have an ! in their name?
#2510 [18:55] <Kouga> nope
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#2512 [18:55] <Kouga> all of the user accoutns on my pc are names
#2513 [18:55] <|Kiikun|> or any other character?
#2514 [18:55] <Kouga> nothing for letters
#2515 [18:55] <Kouga> but*
#2516 [18:55] <Jepson10> !help!
#2517 [18:55] <|Kiikun|> Kouga: hmm... but it works on another account?
#2518 [18:56] <auscompgeek> Jepson10: Please stop spamming the channel.
#2519 [18:56] <Jepson10> Yes if some one can help ME!
#2520 [18:56] <|Kiikun|> !ignore Jepson10
#2521 [18:56] <auscompgeek> |Kiikun|: \o/
#2522 [18:56] * |Kiikun| wonders if that worked.
#2522 [18:56] <auscompgeek> That is an owner command. :P
#2523 [18:56] <Jepson10> !ignore |kiikun|
#2524 [18:56] <Kouga> the bot said that I should log in on another window's user accoutn and try to open minecraft. I did, but it says something like "You can't access that on this account"
#2525 [18:56] <Boreeas> |Kiikun|: Try ;kick ;)
#2526 [18:56] <|Kiikun|> so's kick and i shoudl have abil;ity to..
#2527 [18:57] <|Kiikun|> unless aubot is derping on me again
#2528 [18:57] <SimenOlai> !login
#2529 [18:57] <|Kiikun|> yup. wugbot likes me bor :P
#2530 [18:57] <Boreeas> |Kiikun|: Well, I can only use ;kick, and no longer !kick, whiach is was able to
#2531 [18:57] <Boreeas> WugBot: Wat
#2532 [18:57] <Kouga> brb I'm goign to try downloading minecraft on another accoutn to see if that works
#2533 [18:57] <Jepson10> CAN SOME ONE GIVE ME SOME FUCKING HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2534 [18:57] * AuBot kicked Jepson10 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: epson10 :Please keep it civil.)
#2535 [18:58] <|Kiikun|> Boreeas: thats me :P
#2536 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> *sigh*
#2537 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> it's hard to help people who neither listen nor follow instructions.
#2538 [18:58] <|Kiikun|> indeed.
#2539 [18:58] <auscompgeek> Yeah.
#2540 [18:59] <Boreeas> mhm
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#2542 [18:59] <|Kiikun|> he did say he got it from mcnet
#2543 [18:59] <Boreeas> |Kiikun|: There is a mute command?
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#2545 [18:59] <|Kiikun|> ;quiet Boreeas
#2546 [18:59] <|Kiikun|> yes :P
#2547 [18:59] <auscompgeek> lol
#2548 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> Boreeas: there's some automagic muting.
#2549 [18:59] <|Kiikun|> but dont work on voiced
#2550 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> ;loud Boreeas
#2551 [18:59] <auscompgeek> ;unquiet Boreeas
#2552 [18:59] <|Kiikun|> ;dequiet Boreeas
#2553 [18:59] <Boreeas> DopeGhoti: Yeah, but I didn't spame or anything
#2554 [19:00] <SimenOlai> ;quiet Boreeas
#2555 [19:00] <SimenOlai> D: :D
#2556 [19:00] <Boreeas> ;quiet SimenOlai
#2557 [19:00] <Boreeas> :D
#2558 [19:00] * |Kiikun| likes silently giving wugbot commands :P
#2558 [19:00] <Boreeas> No, let's stop the botspam, shall we?
#2559 [19:00] <|Kiikun|> yes.
#2560 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> ?? bots
#2561 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> ?? irc/bots
#2562 [19:00] <VoxelHead> irc/bots: The bots in this channel are meant to be used for assisting users in need of help
#2563 [19:00] <VoxelHead> irc/bots: Abuse of the bots will have you removed from the channel. If you aren't using the bot for it's intended purpose, you ARE abusing it
#2564 [19:00] <zkxs> ?? bot
#2565 [19:00] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
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#2568 [19:01] <auscompgeek> lol
#2569 [19:01] <drizztt> Can someone help me?
#2570 [19:02] <auscompgeek> We can only help you if you tell us what you need help with.
#2571 [19:02] <auscompgeek> So no, we can't right now.
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#2573 [19:02] <SimenOlai> TheNytangel,
#2574 [19:02] <SimenOlai> HI!
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#2576 [19:02] <TheNytangel> simenolai
#2577 [19:02] <auscompgeek> drizztt: Perhaps you can start by telling us what your problem is. :)
#2578 [19:02] <SimenOlai> who unbanned jepson?
#2579 [19:02] <SimenOlai> DopeGhoti,
#2580 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> He was not banned.
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#2582 [19:03] <drizztt> Okay, i downloaded minecraft on another computer about 2 months ago. Today, i got a new computer when i checked minecraft net to download onto this computer it said i have to purchase it again
#2583 [19:03] <SimenOlai> oh
#2584 [19:03] <SimenOlai> i readd wrong
#2585 [19:03] <SimenOlai> xD
#2586 [19:03] <|Kiikun|> vox did. he was bounced out fro swearing
#2587 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> drizztt: you should not need to repurchase the game; just log in with your already-extant account.
#2588 [19:03] <drizztt> i have already
#2589 [19:03] <auscompgeek> existing*
#2590 [19:03] <|Kiikun|> drizztt: what minecraft username?
#2591 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> auscompgeek: extant is a word (:
#2592 [19:03] <auscompgeek> It is?
#2593 [19:04] * auscompgeek gets out his copy of the Oxford dictionary
#2593 [19:04] * |Kiikun| gets out dictionary.com
#2593 [19:04] * SimenOlai gets out a Coca Cola
#2593 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=haspaid.jsp&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&source=hp&q=define:+extant&pbx=1&oq=define:+extant&aq=f&aqi=g4&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=756829l758691l0l758810l14l11l0l0l0l0l226l1589l1.9.1l11l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=8eeef67bd8da93e5&biw=1216&bih=804
#2594 [19:04] <SimenOlai> combobreaker :)
#2595 [19:04] <SimenOlai> DopeGhoti, stop the spam :) :)
#2596 [19:04] <auscompgeek> SimenOlai++
#2597 [19:05] <SimenOlai> ?? pastebin
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#2599 [19:05] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2600 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> One link answering a question from in-channel does not spam make.
#2601 [19:05] <SimenOlai> D:
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#2603 [19:05] <auscompgeek> DopeGhoti: Perhaps clean up the URL next time? :)
#2604 [19:05] <Omega_Guardian> urls's should never have gotten so long
#2605 [19:05] <auscompgeek> Omega_Guardian: Indeed.
#2606 [19:05] <GammaRazor> I need help with an error on minecraft classic: fatal error occured 4: unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack
#2607 [19:05] <Boreeas> DopeGhoti: q=haspaid.jsp? :P
#2608 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> Blank Google for using GET rather than POST.
#2609 [19:05] <Omega_Guardian> figure it's new trend to stuff as much info as possible into it for some reason
#2610 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> er, blame.
#2611 [19:05] <SimenOlai> Synonyms:
#2612 [19:05] <SimenOlai> existing - existent - in existence - present
#2613 [19:05] <auscompgeek> DopeGhoti: duckduckgo.com ? :)
#2614 [19:06] <SimenOlai> so, i heard its a present
#2615 [19:06] <SimenOlai> :D
#2616 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> Boreeas: silly Google, including search history in the URL.
#2617 [19:06] <auscompgeek> lol
#2618 [19:06] <Boreeas> heh
#2619 [19:06] <SimenOlai> lol
#2620 [19:06] <SimenOlai> search history
#2621 [19:06] <SimenOlai> i dont want to see Boreeas's search history
#2622 [19:07] <TheNytangel> simenolai: I'm a mibbit
#2623 [19:07] <SimenOlai> ?? random
#2624 [19:07] <SimenOlai> lol
#2625 [19:07] <wannabemac> LOL mibbit.
#2626 [19:07] <TheNytangel> Why so much love?
#2627 [19:07] <SimenOlai> LOL mibbit = lots of love mibbit
#2628 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: 'tis the season?
#2629 [19:08] <TheNytangel> lol = lots of love
#2630 [19:08] <SimenOlai> mh
#2631 [19:08] <SimenOlai> mhm
#2632 [19:08] * SimenOlai goes to get a coke!!! ftw!!!!!!!!!!
#2632 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> one exclamation point is sufficient.
#2633 [19:09] <SimenOlai> hmm idea
#2634 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> Coca-Cola is not _that_ exciting.
#2635 [19:09] <auscompgeek> Agreed.
#2636 [19:09] * SimenOlai has quit (Quit: Coke needing)
#2636 [19:09] <|Kiikun|> coke sux... so does pepsi.
#2637 [19:10] * |Kiikun| chugs a Dr Pepper ripoff
#2637 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> |Kiikun|: Pibb? Or Dr. Thunder?
#2638 [19:10] <TheNytangel> Dr Thunder?
#2639 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> Or Dr. Pete?
#2640 [19:10] <|Kiikun|> Dr Bob.
#2641 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> Must be a local off-brand (:
#2642 [19:10] <Kouga> I have come back
#2643 [19:10] <Kouga> and you're right
#2644 [19:10] <|Kiikun|> DopeGhoti: Stop & Shop (and pribably Giant too)
#2645 [19:10] <GammaRazor> I need help with an error on minecraft classic: fatal error occured 4: unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack
#2646 [19:10] <Kouga> there is something in my user account that's messing it up, because I tried my dad's account and it works there
#2647 [19:11] <|Kiikun|> Kouga: windows 7, right?
#2648 [19:11] <Kouga> yup, home premium
#2649 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> Kouga: there is no punctuation or accented letters in your normal profile's name?
#2650 [19:11] <|Kiikun|> Kouga: on the user that CANT run minecraft, put %appdata% in the start menu's search box and hit enter.
#2651 [19:11] <Kouga> but the thing is, it worked just find last night, and I haven't donwloaded or done anything to mess it up
#2652 [19:12] <|Kiikun|> DopeGhoti: i think it might have just been renamed.
#2653 [19:12] <Kouga> |Kiikun|: no
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#2655 [19:12] <Kouga> and okay
#2656 [19:12] <Kouga> I shall do that
#2657 [19:12] <Kouga> wait nevermind, i'm already there :)
#2658 [19:13] <Kouga> in the .minecraft folder
#2659 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> |Kiikun|: renaming the profile doesn't change the path
#2660 [19:13] <auscompgeek> Kouga: make sure there aren't any special characters in the path.
#2661 [19:13] <|Kiikun|> Kouga: that shoudl take you to the USER/AppData/Roaming folder. does the USER have any odd characters in it?
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#2663 [19:13] <auscompgeek> (especially the ! character)
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#2665 [19:14] <|Kiikun|> DopeGhoti: yes. thats what im saying :P he mentioned the user name before.. i was thinkign someoen MADE it with a! then renamed it to somethign without later
#2666 [19:14] <|Kiikun|> since it works on other accounts...
#2667 [19:14] <|Kiikun|> and i think & triggers it too
#2668 [19:14] <Boreeas> SimenOlai: Not much to get in my search history: https://encrypted.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=trnasformice+protocol&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#pq=trnasformice+protocol&hl=en&cp=1&gs_id=f&xhr=t&q=transformice+protocol&tok=4BoDDiv-lRO38_lBxPwP5g&pf=p&client=ubuntu&hs=AYN&channel=fs&sclient=psy-ab&pbx=1&oq=tasformice+protocol&aq=0l&aqi=g-l1&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&f
#2669 [19:14] <Boreeas> p=debfcf70ae6c2248&biw=1600&bih=720&bs=1
#2670 [19:14] <|Kiikun|> Boreeas: dont flood :P
#2671 [19:14] <SimenOlai> ????????
#2672 [19:14] <Boreeas> :D
#2673 [19:15] <auscompgeek> |Kiikun|: There is no guarantee that it points to %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\. :)
#2674 [19:15] <Kouga> no, the user doens't have ! in it
#2675 [19:15] <SimenOlai> transformice ?!?!?
#2676 [19:15] <SimenOlai> isnt that a game?
#2677 [19:15] <|Kiikun|> auscompgeek: on win7, yes :P
#2678 [19:15] <Kouga> when I enter %appdata% into the start menu
#2679 [19:15] <auscompgeek> |Kiikun|: l10n ;)
#2680 [19:15] <Kouga> it goes into the roaming folder
#2681 [19:15] <squiggy> i just bought and downloaded the game but the launcher says that "cant connect to minecraft.net"
#2682 [19:16] <Kouga> and the user is Julia, nothing with ! in it
#2683 [19:16] <Boreeas> SimenOlai: Yes, why?
#2684 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 6
#2685 [19:16] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 6 = Minecraft.net is VERY slow today. ] ... set by [ DopeGhoti | Tue Dec 27 16:51:52 MST 2011 ]
#2686 [19:16] <SimenOlai> do you play it?
#2687 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> squiggy: that'd be related.
#2688 [19:16] <auscompgeek> |Kiikun|: You can also change it using a GUI in Windows Explorer.
#2689 [19:16] <Boreeas> SimenOlai: I used to
#2690 [19:16] <SimenOlai> i love that game!! :D
#2691 [19:16] <|Kiikun|> Kouga: ok. not sure why its breaking on just that one account :/
#2692 [19:16] <SimenOlai> i think we have met too, lol
#2693 [19:17] <SimenOlai> were you ever in /room norge ?
#2694 [19:17] <Boreeas> Maybe
#2695 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> Kouga: what is the exact path that %appdata% opens?
#2696 [19:17] <|Kiikun|> squiggy: you can also check to make sure your firewall isnt blockign the game or java
#2697 [19:17] <Kouga> I would assume that maybe my mp3 charging could be interfering?
#2698 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> I can't see how
#2699 [19:17] <Kouga> but then I took off my player and it still crashes
#2700 [19:17] <Kouga> the exact path?
#2701 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> the full, exact path, yes
#2702 [19:17] <squiggy> i guess ill try that
#2703 [19:17] <Kouga> roming folder, under the appdata folder
#2704 [19:17] <|Kiikun|> Kouga: i know ipods like to cause computers to NOT boot :/
#2705 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> it'll be something like C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\Application Data\ [and so forth]
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#2707 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> the full, exact path, please
#2708 [19:18] <Kouga> when I open %appdata% on the start menu and the folder opens, the first folder shown is the .minecraft folder
#2709 [19:18] <|Kiikun|> squi... *telepathicly transmits "Java 7 is BAD, mmkay?"*
#2710 [19:18] <Kouga> okay one second
#2711 [19:18] <SimenOlai> boreeas, open the game and join /room 6
#2712 [19:18] <Boreeas> ;kick SimenOlai Cut it out and join #lobby
#2713 [19:18] * WugBot kicked SimenOlai from #minecrafthelp (Reason: imenOlai :Cut it out and join #lobby)
#2714 [19:18] <crowtribe> hi there, i'm having problems logging into minecraft, both on the website and the application, after doing a password reset.
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#2716 [19:19] <SimenOlai> ey
#2717 [19:19] * Boreeas goes away
#2717 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> crowtribe: the web site is tremendously slow today; this will cause login problems.
#2718 [19:19] <Kouga> HP (C:) > Users > Julia > AppData > Roaming >
#2719 [19:19] <|Kiikun|> !topic info 6
#2720 [19:19] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 6 = Minecraft.net is VERY slow today. ] ... set by [ DopeGhoti | Tue Dec 27 16:51:52 MST 2011 ]
#2721 [19:19] <crowtribe> the message i receive is login failed.
#2722 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> !topic /6/./, this will cause login problems./
#2723 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> !topic undo
#2724 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> !topic /6/\./, this will cause login problems./
#2725 [19:19] <|Kiikun|> crowtribe: if you just reset your pass, it might just be taking time going theough.
#2726 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> sigh
#2727 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> !topic undo
#2728 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> !topic /6/today/today; this will cause login problems./
#2729 [19:20] * DopeGhoti apologizes for the noise.
#2729 [19:20] <crowtribe> so just wait a while? I wasn't sure of the time it takes due to minecraft.net being so slow.
#2730 [19:20] <crowtribe> i'll try back later in the day when i get back.
#2731 [19:20] <crowtribe> cheers for the help.
#2732 [19:21] <|Kiikun|> its usually instant :/ you can also try to reset again if you want
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#2734 [19:21] <crowtribe> i did try twice
#2735 [19:21] <Liraxus> Hey, does this place support help for texture packs?
#2736 [19:21] <crowtribe> and then waited 5 minutes or so with the most recent password, but no dice still.
#2737 [19:21] <auscompgeek> DopeGhoti: tried /\.$/?
#2738 [19:21] <auscompgeek> :)
#2739 [19:21] <|Kiikun|> Liraxus: theres not much to support for texture packs o.o;
#2740 [19:21] <Liraxus> Well im having trouble with my custom menu background
#2741 [19:22] <|Kiikun|> Liraxus: make sure you have the right version for minecraft, and drop.. OH MAKING one/
#2742 [19:22] <Liraxus> yes
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#2744 [19:22] <Liraxus> Im working on a SMW themed texture pack
#2745 [19:22] <|Kiikun|> were usually just the tech support. we make sure your minecraft runs :P
#2746 [19:23] <Liraxus> You guys know a place i can get help for this?
#2747 [19:23] * |Kiikun| is checkign the wiki!
#2747 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> auscompgeek: that'd've likely worked too.
#2748 [19:24] <auscompgeek> DopeGhoti: Indeed. :)
#2749 [19:24] <Kouga> DopeGhoti: Did you get my message? I typed the path, but not sure if it appeared properly
#2750 [19:24] <|Kiikun|> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Texture_pack#Texture_Pack_Creation
#2751 [19:24] <crowtribe> i'm receiving the following from the minecraft website almost immediately: "Oops, unknown username or password. "
#2752 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> Kouga: I did. The only other thing I can think of, is that you have something running on your main profile that's conflicting with Minecraft
#2753 [19:25] <|Kiikun|> crowtribe: thats usually a symptom of the site going wonky...
#2754 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> but I am not sure what it would be.
#2755 [19:25] <|Kiikun|> DopeGhoti: parallels! *guess*
#2756 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> You're running a VM?
#2757 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> Wait, isn't parallels a Mac program?
#2758 [19:26] <crowtribe> any idea what timeframe for site/server to be restored?
#2759 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> or did they release it for Windows also?
#2760 [19:26] <|Kiikun|> i thought it was for both :P
#2761 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> crowtribe: no idea, sorry.
#2762 [19:26] <|Kiikun|> when theres enough whining to wake up mollstam i bet :P
#2763 [19:26] <|Kiikun|> or whatever is actually happening to the server subsides
#2764 [19:27] <Liraxus> uh kiikun, that didn't help
#2765 [19:27] <Liraxus> i made the background
#2766 [19:27] <Liraxus> but uh...
#2767 [19:27] <Liraxus> one sec, lemme get an image
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#2769 [19:27] <crowtribe> ah well. i'll try later today.
#2770 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> crowtribe: good luck
#2771 [19:27] <crowtribe> cheers, eh.
#2772 [19:29] <Kouga> DopeGhoti: I have aim, the path folder opened, and firefox. I don'th think it's conflicting because it didn't conflict last night
#2773 [19:29] <Liraxus> Kiikun: http://imgur.com/3T42p
#2774 [19:29] <Liraxus> The images don't connect
#2775 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> Kouga: press ctrl-alt-del and open the Task Manager
#2776 [19:29] <|Kiikun|> Liraxus: i think your frames are out of order.
#2777 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> I bet you have a lot of things running in the background
#2778 [19:29] <Liraxus> could you possibly fix it?
#2779 [19:30] <Liraxus> Oh, and if your curious, That floating island was GENERATED, not handmade
#2780 [19:30] <Kouga> DopeGhoti: Just two folders, firefox, and aim. again, same thing I had opened last night that didn't conflict swith minecraft
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#2782 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> Kouga: look at the Processes tab.
#2783 [19:31] <Kouga> unless you're talkign about some processes that I should turne off?
#2784 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> but again, I'm not sure what-all you've got running, so what I'd do is this:
#2785 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> log in as the user in which Minecraft works
#2786 [19:31] <Kouga> I'm listening :)
#2787 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> look at the processes tab there
#2788 [19:31] <Kouga> okay
#2789 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> then come back to the main one
#2790 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> and end any processes that don't match
#2791 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> then try MC again
#2792 [19:31] <Kouga> gotcha
#2793 [19:32] <|Kiikun|> Liraxus: you took them looking north douth east west up and down, right?
#2794 [19:32] <Racster> Have you guys seen the aether mod?
#2795 [19:32] <|Kiikun|> Racster: yes. we have. no we dont support it.
#2796 [19:32] <Racster> I was wondering how they made the background
#2797 [19:32] <Racster> Seen it?
#2798 [19:33] <Liraxus> yes, kiikun
#2799 [19:34] <|Kiikun|> Liraxus: http://techkniffen.com/how-to-make-your-own-minecraft-1-8-background/
#2800 [19:35] * |Kiikun| has no idea where the texturepackers hang out...
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#2801 [19:38] <Kouga> ...strange
#2802 [19:39] <Kouga> I ended an internet explorer process and the bar at the bottom the monitor dissappeared
#2803 [19:39] <|Kiikun|> Kouga: you ended iexplore.. or explorer?
#2804 [19:40] <Kouga> I might have deleted something I shouldn't have. I'm not exactly the brightest at computers :/
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#2806 [19:40] <|Kiikun|> Kouga: did it come back?
#2807 [19:40] <Kouga> I meant to delete something internet explorer related, but I might have misread, shit
#2808 [19:40] <Omega_Guardian> Windows uses explorer process for the taskbar. Course that means major security issues cause it's same as the webbrowser
#2809 [19:40] <|Kiikun|> Kouga: terminating processes unless you know what they are is a Bad Idea.
#2810 [19:41] <Omega_Guardian> normally it would reload itself after a few seconds
#2811 [19:41] <Kouga> shit shit shit, I am stupid
#2812 [19:41] <|Kiikun|> Omega_Guardian: um.... isnt it iexplore?
#2813 [19:41] <Kouga> I meant to delete an internet exploer process, but I might have left clicked the wrong thing
#2814 [19:42] <Omega_Guardian> not sure about Win7, but least in earlier versions it was basically all the same thing
#2815 [19:42] <Kouga> wow, I am not making myself look good.
#2816 [19:42] <Kouga> anyway to get it back?
#2817 [19:42] <|Kiikun|> Omega_Guardian: i know they were jumpable.. but i thought it was ALWAYS iexplore and explorer/
#2818 [19:42] <|Kiikun|> Kouga: pres the win key on the keyboard
#2819 [19:42] <Kouga> nope, for me its both explorer
#2820 [19:43] <Omega_Guardian> just opening up the file explorer should fix it
#2821 [19:43] <|Kiikun|> Kouga: if not, reboot
#2822 [19:43] <Kouga> how do I open the file explorer?
#2823 [19:44] <Omega_Guardian> however you look at files you've download and stuff, thats part of it, sometimes just has the view changed
#2824 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> Kouga: still have the Task Mangler open?
#2825 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> file -> run "explorer"
#2826 [19:44] <Kouga> yeah
#2827 [19:44] <Kouga> alright
#2828 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> "run" might be "new task" or somesuch
#2829 [19:45] <Kouga> wow you guys are patient. haha thank you
#2830 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> that's why we wish we made the big bucks.
#2831 [19:45] <Kouga> woo
#2832 [19:45] <Kouga> got it back
#2833 [19:45] <Kouga> dman, I wish I could understand these processes. I'm sure I don't need a good third of them
#2834 [19:46] <|Kiikun|> Kouga: you can always just google the process name :3
#2835 [19:47] <Kouga> do you think my crash could be because of minecraft.net being slow?
#2836 [19:47] <Kouga> because now it's not even letting me log in before crahing
#2837 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> not since you can repeatable avoid it by switching the profile you're logged in as
#2838 [19:47] <Kouga> crashing
#2839 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> you could try
#2840 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/reinst/tool
#2841 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/reinst/bat
#2842 [19:47] <VoxelHead> win/reinst/bat: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2843 [19:47] <VoxelHead> win/reinst/bat: Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#2844 [19:48] <Omega_Guardian> err
#2845 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> Omega_Guardian: mm?
#2846 [19:48] <Omega_Guardian> the client itself has a force update/download button
#2847 [19:48] <Kouga> that didn't work. I tried ^^
#2848 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> Omega_Guardian: which doesn't always work.
#2849 [19:48] <Omega_Guardian> ah okies
#2850 [19:48] <Kouga> yeah I'll try that reinstalling thing you have there
#2851 [19:50] <Kouga> it's saying it uninstalled, but it mentioned "system cannot find the file specified" three times
#2852 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> Kouga: interesting.
#2853 [19:51] <Kouga> also says "'rm' is not recognized as an external or internal command"
#2854 [19:51] <Kouga> yet it still says "minecraft uninstall complete"
#2855 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> *snrk* someone snuck a POSIC command in there.
#2856 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> er, POSIX
#2857 [19:52] * DopeGhoti fixes that.
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#2858 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> the errors you got, you would get if there were nothing there to delete, which is okay.
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#2860 [19:54] <Kouga> alrighties, downloading minecraft again
#2861 [19:55] <parsleyflame456> minecraft will not let me play or login please help me
#2862 [19:56] <Kouga> still crashes!
#2863 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 6
#2864 [19:56] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 6 = Minecraft.net is VERY slow today; this will cause login problems.. ] ... set by [ DopeGhoti/regexp | Tue Dec 27 17:18:51 MST 2011 ]
#2865 [19:56] <Kouga> parsleyflame456: is it crashing?
#2866 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> Kouga: but it still doesn't crash on another profile?
#2867 [19:56] <|Kiikun|> :(:|:&);:
#2868 [19:56] <|Kiikun|> :P
#2869 [19:56] <parsleyflame456> no it will not let me even go to the login page
#2870 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft.net is VERY slow today; this will cause loginproblems..
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#2872 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> !topic insert READ THE FSCKING TOPIC
#2873 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Nobody reads the topic..
#2874 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> We should set the channel +m, and add a simple password to the topic, to be PRIVMSGed to VoxelHead.
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#2876 [19:59] <Morrolan> If you want people to read something you'd have to make every bot in here auto-message them on join, so it fills up their screen completely I guess. *sigh*
#2877 [19:59] <Morrolan> Either way, g'night.
#2878 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: we nearly already do ):
#2879 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> ciao
#2880 [19:59] <Kouga> alright, so I checked minecraft on another user
#2881 [19:59] <Kouga> it crashes there, too, now
#2882 [19:59] <Morrolan> Yea, Aubot's message is pretty big indeed, strange that so many people miss it. Oh well.
#2883 [19:59] <Kouga> strange, my login page seems to be working fine ><
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#2885 [20:00] <|Kiikun|> Kouga: if you were randomly killing processes.. you MIGHT want to reboot.
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#2887 [20:01] <Kouga> The only thing I killed were that exploerer thing, and my Sansa program
#2888 [20:01] <Kouga> but yes, I'll go reboot, now u.u
#2889 [20:01] <WorthierSpinman> Hey I need help running minecraft. as soon as I login, it loads and brings up a window that says ''driver components mis match. Exit is the only option''. Please help
#2890 [20:04] <parsleyflame456> I have recently had virus because i was trying to get mods for minecraft but i did something wrong and i got a virus but then my brother fixed my computer and now everything works perfectly but minecraft and it wont even let me go to the login screen please help me
#2891 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> WorthierSpinman: you might need to reinstall your GPU drivers; that doesn't sound like a Minecraft error.
#2892 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> ??> parsleyflame456 win/reinst
#2893 [20:04] <VoxelHead> parsleyflame456: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2894 [20:05] <VoxelHead> parsleyflame456: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2895 [20:05] <parsleyflame456> i have already done that though
#2896 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> ??> parsleyflame456 win/profile
#2897 [20:05] <VoxelHead> parsleyflame456: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2898 [20:05] <VoxelHead> parsleyflame456: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2899 [20:06] <parsleyflame456> but that means i have to pay for it again and i do not want to do that
#2900 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> No it does not mean you have to pay for it again
#2901 [20:06] <parsleyflame456> then how do make another acount
#2902 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead: specifically said _not_ a new Minecraft account; a new account on your _computer_ itself.
#2903 [20:06] <parsleyflame456> but how do you do that?
#2904 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> Control Panel -> Users
#2905 [20:07] <|Kiikun|> parsleyflame456: Control Panel > User Accounts
#2906 [20:07] <parsleyflame456> what does that mean'\?
#2907 [20:07] <|Kiikun|> parsleyflame456: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, Nintendo Wii, or HyperOS?
#2908 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> Go to the Start Menu, click Control Panel, then User Accounts
#2909 [20:08] <parsleyflame456> vista 7
#2910 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> There is no such thing as "Vista 7"
#2911 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> that's like saying your drive a Ford Volkswagen.
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#2913 [20:08] <parsleyflame456> well i have some sort of vista compaq
#2914 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> So you're (probably) running Windows Vista.
#2915 [20:09] <|Kiikun|> parsleyflame456: click the start button, type 'User Accounts'
#2916 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> ^ what |Kiikun| said (thrice now)
#2917 [20:09] <parsleyflame456> where should i do this
#2918 [20:09] * |Kiikun| forgets if vista had the searchbar or not
#2918 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> it does
#2919 [20:09] <|Kiikun|> parsleyflame456: you dont knwo what the start button in...
#2920 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> Press the Windows key, type Control Panel, and press Enter.
#2921 [20:09] <|Kiikun|> the BIG SHINY BUTTON
#2922 [20:10] <|Kiikun|> in the BOTOOM LEFT CORNER
#2923 [20:10] <|Kiikun|> that us USE TO ACCESS NEARLY EVERFRIGGINTHING
#2924 [20:10] <parsleyflame456> oh thanks then
#2925 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> ??> |Kiikun| dont/shout
#2926 [20:10] <VoxelHead> |Kiikun|: (dont/shout) There is no need to yell. The acoustics in here are wonderful.
#2927 [20:10] <|Kiikun|> ~.~ sorry. rage overload.
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#2929 [20:12] <Liraxus> It worked Kiikun!
#2930 [20:12] <Liraxus> now for the custom splahes
#2931 [20:13] <Liraxus> By the way, small random question, when was Super mario bros 3 made?
#2932 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> 1989 or so?
#2933 [20:13] <Liraxus> One of my menu quotes is gonna be "Skinning racoons since insertdatehere"!
#2934 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> 1988, October.
#2935 [20:13] <Kouga> I have come to report that minecraft works!
#2936 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> Kouga: splendid!
#2937 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> that'll be $8.
#2938 [20:14] <Kouga> do you accept IOUs? :)
#2939 [20:14] <parsleyflame456> the user account button wont open what should i do sorry
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#2941 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> parsleyflame456: for starters, be more exact when you say "wont [sic] open".
#2942 [20:14] <Kouga> haha anyways, thank you guys for your patience. I shall now leave, and hopefully not have to return for a while.
#2943 [20:15] <parsleyflame456> i am saying the user acount file will not open
#2944 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> when it fails to open, does it give you an error message? Is it greyed out? Be specific.
#2945 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> Are you logged in as an administrative user?
#2946 [20:15] <parsleyflame456> i am
#2947 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> ?? specs
#2948 [20:16] <VoxelHead> specs: Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#2949 [20:17] <parsleyflame456> it is na32bit vista compaq computer and i do not know how much ram it has
#2950 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> If you're logged in as an administrator, and User Accounts is failing to open, etiher something has gone Terribly Wrong, or you need to re-introduce yourself to how to use a mouse.
#2951 [20:19] <parsleyflame456> oh wegt sorry i got it open now what do i do?
#2952 [20:20] <parsleyflame456> hello is anyone here?
#2953 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> it should be fairly apparent how to create a new user on the system.
#2954 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> once you've done so, log out; log in as that user, and try running Minecraft from there.
#2955 [20:23] <parsleyflame456> ok ill try
#2956 [20:24] <parsleyflame456> sorry first however what do i press to make another acount
#2957 [20:26] <parsleyflame456> helloso how do i make another acount
#2958 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> You do have the monitor on, right?
#2959 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> and you know that the screen presents letters in arrangements known as 'words'?
#2960 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> and that these words mean things?
#2961 [20:29] <parsleyflame456> could you tell me waht it might sound like
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#2963 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> usually rather quiet, unless you have the Windows Narrator running, and then probably something along the lines of "Add account" or "Create new account"
#2964 [20:29] <|Kiikun|> parsleyflame456: click start. click help. type 'create user'. click "Create a user account"
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#2966 [20:42] <alicechain> Why can't any of the email addresses I input be verified by this site?
#2967 [20:42] <xales> alicechain: 'this site'?
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#2969 [20:43] <alicechain> the primary email I wish to use is approx. 6 months old, the second is over 10 years old and the other is 5 yrs old
#2970 [20:43] <alicechain> to register for Mincraft
#2971 [20:43] <xales> alicechain: What, exactly, do you mean by "can't be verified"?
#2972 [20:44] <alicechain> none of the 3 email addresses can be verified by the registration of a new account
#2973 [20:45] <xales> alicechain: Does it give you an error message? Do you not get the verification email? You need to be more descriptive.
#2974 [20:46] <alicechain> In the very beginning screen of registration is were the error msg of "Email cannot be verified" appears and so no email is sent
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#2976 [20:46] <Obliviowner> How can I change my name on MinecraftForum?
#2977 [20:47] <parsleyflame456> i have made a new account and mine craft was noet one of the icons already istalled so i went to minecraft.net andi tried to login but when i pressed enter it took me to one of those could not diognouse connection problems and my internet is working fine and in the whole house what should i do now to fix my minecraft?
#2978 [20:48] <alicechain> I just read at the top that you cannot help with account issues. Where am I to get this help?
#2979 [20:48] <xales> alicechain: minecraft.net
#2980 [20:48] <alicechain> where?
#2981 [20:48] <xales> Obliviowner: Ask in #minecraftforums , this is not support for the forum.
#2982 [20:48] <alicechain> minecraft gave me this link
#2983 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> To contact Mojang directly, use help@mojang.com
#2984 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> To contact Mojang directly, use help@mojang.com
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#2986 [20:49] <alicechain> thank you, GreyVulpine. will do
#2987 [20:49] <alicechain> have a good nite
#2988 [20:50] <SimenOlai> is this girl hot? http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/399362_2835220921571_1290648725_33216778_291964335_n.jpg
#2989 [20:50] <parsleyflame456> please help me someone
#2990 [20:50] * xales kicked SimenOlai from #minecrafthelp (Reason: imenOlai :Enough of you.)
#2991 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> Dangit xales
#2992 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> I wanted to do that...
#2993 [20:51] <parsleyflame456> hello is anyone listling
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#2996 [20:52] <Liraxus> question-how do you lower the fuzz on the menu
#2997 [20:53] <xales> Fuzz?
#2998 [20:53] <Liraxus> yeah, the blur
#2999 [20:53] <Liraxus> that blurs the background
#3000 [20:53] <Liraxus> i wanna lower it a bit
#3001 [20:53] <xales> I'm not sure it's possible to, if it was, it would only be via a mod.
#3002 [20:57] <izzd> render distance Liraxus ?
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#3004 [21:04] <winningninja> help i installed the technic pack and minecraft wouldn't loaf
#3005 [21:04] <winningninja> *load
#3006 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> What operating system?
#3007 [21:05] <winningninja> mac 10.7.2
#3008 [21:05] <winningninja> (lion)
#3009 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Press your command+shift+g keys to bring up the go to folder dialog box.
#3010 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> There, put in: ~/.minecraft/
#3011 [21:05] <winningninja> ok
#3012 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Delete everythinng inside except for saves, then run minecraft again
#3013 [21:06] <winningninja> ok
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#3015 [21:07] <winningninja> it's retrieving stuff
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#3019 [21:08] <pamms> trying to download minecraft for first time. keeps timing out - tried all day. is there another server I can access outside of the one the front page Download button sends me to?
#3020 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> There is not.
#3021 [21:08] <pamms> rats
#3022 [21:08] <pamms> thanks
#3023 [21:08] <kklyn> purchased minecraft, credit card charged, never got email to download it. have tried to download it for days
#3024 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> You actually risk getting malware and other nasty bits of software if you download minecraft from anywhere else.
#3025 [21:09] <w> kklyn: login to minecraft.net
#3026 [21:10] <kklyn> in
#3027 [21:10] <pamms> right, was looking for an official second server. :) is a christmas gift for my son, but can't follow thru. maybe after school is back in session, then
#3028 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> pamms - It seems Minecraft is a very popular holiday gift, servers have been hammered for the last few days.
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#3030 [21:11] <{unimatrix}> whats the meaning of life ?
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#3032 [21:12] <w> {unimatrix}: 43
#3033 [21:12] <pamms> downloaded it to an ipad 2, but the app doesn't seem to have the monsters, which I understand is the fun part.
#3034 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, the portable/mobile editions of minecraft are seperate from the PC version
#3035 [21:13] <w> iirc the pocket editions are a stripped down classic
#3036 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> Only the PC version has survival mode/monsters/crafting
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#3039 [21:14] <Mr_Eazi> Hi, could somebody please take a look at this image and tell me what is going on with my texture packs? The standard texture pack is fine, but any installed glitch like this. I have the HD patcher installed. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/835/texturepackproblem.png/
#3040 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> HD texture pack might not have been updated for 1.0.0?
#3041 [21:15] <pamms> GreyVulpine -alright, thanks for your help - great board, I'm sure I'll be back a few more times. happy holidays!
#3042 [21:16] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#3042 [21:16] <Mr_Eazi> Yeah, the HD texture pack has been updated for 1.0
#3043 [21:16] <Mr_Eazi> HD patcher*
#3044 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Not the patcher, the pack itself
#3045 [21:17] <Mr_Eazi> Ohh I see
#3046 [21:17] <Mr_Eazi> Does that usually the reason this happens?
#3047 [21:17] <Logger> *logging activated.
#3048 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> Mr_Eazi - Sometimes
#3049 [21:18] * GreyVulpine prods Logger.
#3049 [21:18] <Mr_Eazi> Okay
#3050 [21:18] <Mr_Eazi> I'll give it a try
#3051 [21:18] <Mr_Eazi> What else could be the problem if not?
#3052 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> HD patcher screwing up, Video drivers, OS-specific video settings, bad java.
#3053 [21:20] <xales> GreyVulpine: You forgot one there. Random bits being flipped by cosmic rays!
#3054 [21:20] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#3054 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Logger - You're not a bot, right?
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#3056 [21:22] <Mr_Eazi> Mhmm
#3057 [21:22] <Mr_Eazi> Still not working
#3058 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Did you try with a known HD pack that is compatible with 1.0.0?
#3059 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't work, reinstall/redownload the HD patcher
#3060 [21:24] <con> I am having trouble getting Minecraft to work. I am running Ubuntu 11.10. I have it all installed (via a script offered by alloc@dr.com). I have the icon and everything now on the desktop. When I start the program it asks me to login etc. that works ok but then a minecraft window comes up, there is a pause and then I get a msg that minecraft has crashed.
#3061 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Got an error report?
#3062 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Please post the error report to www.pastebin.com, submit it, then give us the URL so that we may read it.
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#3064 [21:26] <con> the errors msg complains about only one LWJGL context can be initiated at any one time. Does anyone know how to fix? Thank you.
#3065 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> That's usually the cause of outdated video drivers on ubuntu, you can try updating it via your software center, or your video card manufacturer's website
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#3068 [21:29] <Ninechop_> is there a way to change my in-game minecraft name?
#3069 [21:30] <Logger> Automatic answer: No
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#3072 [21:31] <con> yes, i have checked on video drivers. I don't think there is any update i can make - at least not that i can tell. everything seems up to date there.
#3073 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> con - What video card do you have?
#3074 [21:32] <con> unless there is something i'm not doing in ubuntu to ensure video drivers are up to date. the video card i have is i guess an integrated one. I am running an hp pavilion a1012x computer
#3075 [21:33] <con> when i look up on the internet it just says it uses an agp 8x video card
#3076 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> If it's an extremely old video card, ubuntu might not have the drivers for it.
#3077 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Which by the sounds of it, is a very very old card.
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#3079 [21:33] <Logger> Late Automatic Answer: Yes im a bot GreyVulpine
#3080 [21:35] <con> yes i suppose the computer is older. thats why i like ubuntu because it runs really good under ubuntu
#3081 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> If it's an old video card, it may not be able to handle minecraft at all.
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#3084 [21:38] <squirrle> Okay so my minecraft sound is not working and I've tried F3+S and it didn't work... anyone know the solution
#3085 [21:38] * VoxelHead kicked Logger from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ogger :Ban Evasion (simenolai))
#3086 [21:38] <wannabemac> Simen was banned?
#3087 [21:39] <xales> Yes. This is probably the 3rd or 4th time, too.
#3088 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> squirrle - Delete everything in .minecraft except for saves, minecraft will redownload the files
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#3090 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> squirrle - Make sure you're getting files in the /.minecraft/resources/ folder, as that's where sounds are downloaded to
#3091 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> squirrle - Make sure you're getting files in the /.minecraft/resources/ folder, as that's where sounds are downloaded to
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#3093 [21:40] <squirrle> My firewall hates minecraft so it doesnt like to download... but the sound files are missing...
#3094 [21:41] <con> so may need to run on a different computer altogether. Can you advise how to best ensure my video drivers are up to date - are there a few easy steps?
#3095 [21:41] <squirrle> Con - are you on windows?
#3096 [21:41] <xales> con: If you are using a Linux distro, and you are using the latest packages, then your video driver is up to date.
#3097 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> con - Different video cards require different methods of downloading them. You may need to check your ubuntu software center, or the manufacturer's website..
#3098 [21:43] <con> if it helps at all i have put the error report at pastebin (http://pastebin.com/TLQLNtsh).
#3099 [21:44] <squirrle> while on the topic of linux anyone know how to get it working? it launches then gives me an error report saying that I have 2 instances of LWJGL running and only one can run at a time...
#3100 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Beyond the obvious of checking ps to make sure you don't have the java process already running, the error usually points to video drivers.
#3101 [21:45] <xales> squirrle, con: Can you please pastebin the output of `lspci`?
#3102 [21:46] <con> sorry squirrle, i'm not sure what you mean (how to do?)
#3103 [21:46] <xales> con: Open Terminal, type 'lspci' (no quotes) and hit enter, copy output to pastebin
#3104 [21:47] <con> ok...
#3105 [21:47] <squirrle> meaning minecraft
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#3110 [21:49] <con> ok, i have pasted lspci results at http://pastebin.com/qEjD7TUp
#3111 [21:49] <T4actialrecon> Hey!
#3112 [21:49] <T4actialrecon> Can I get some help...
#3113 [21:50] <T4actialrecon> Please!!!
#3114 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Gah, SiS video chipset.
#3115 [21:50] <xales> T4actialrecon: With...?
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#3117 [21:50] <T4actialrecon> My acc was premuium.. and now it isnt ... its not cracked or anything I bought it back in beta days...
#3118 [21:50] <T4actialrecon> I can change my skin but I cant log in to any servers!?
#3119 [21:50] <T4actialrecon> ....
#3120 [21:51] <xales> con: That video card is very old, and it's extremely unlikely it will play Minecraft, or, if it did, the framerate would be extremely low.
#3121 [21:51] <T4actialrecon> How do I fix.
#3122 [21:51] <xales> T4actialrecon: What is the name of the accout?
#3123 [21:51] <T4actialrecon> T4actialRecon.
#3124 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> T4actialrecon - What happens when you try to log into a server?
#3125 [21:51] <T4actialrecon> It says my accounts not preumium! when I bought back in beta days!
#3126 [21:51] <T4actialrecon> ..
#3127 [21:51] <xales> T4actialrecon: 'T4actialRecon' is marked as premium
#3128 [21:52] <T4actialrecon> Okay.! Ill try to log in a server... real quick and see wat happens k
#3129 [21:52] <con> ok, so maybe best bet is to either get a new relatively inexpensive video card for this older computer or play on a different computer altogether i guess
#3130 [21:52] <xales> con: Guessing at the age of the computer, it probably would still have issues running Minecraft even if the GPU was replaced.
#3131 [21:52] <Mr_Eazi> GreyVulpine, thanks a lot for you help the past 2 days
#3132 [21:52] <Mr_Eazi> Helped me out a lot
#3133 [21:52] <xales> It would probably run, but not very well.
#3134 [21:52] * GreyVulpine nods
#3134 [21:53] <xales> IMO, it wouldn't be worth it to try replacing the GPU.
#3135 [21:53] <wannabemac> He does that.
#3136 [21:54] <T4actialrecon> Woa... Thank you.. I can join servers! again.. just 2 minutes ago i couldnt!
#3137 [21:54] <T4actialrecon> >.>
#3138 [21:54] <con> ok, that is fair enough, thank you all for your assistance. you have been very quick to help me. thanks.
#3139 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> xales is awesome like that.
#3140 [21:54] <T4actialrecon> :D!
#3141 [21:54] <T4actialrecon> LOVE YOU GUYS! BAI! THANKS SO MUCH!
#3142 [21:54] <wannabemac> I have never seen xales before today.
#3143 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> xales has been around for a while.
#3144 [21:54] * xales has never seen xales ever.
#3144 [21:54] * xales does not own a mirror.
#3144 [21:54] <wannabemac> I know.
#3145 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> I think that ninja schooling xales had, paid off.
#3146 [21:55] <squirrle> does anyone know where i can get the minecraft sounds theyre refusing to download
#3147 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> The only way to get them is through the launcher.
#3148 [21:55] <wannabemac> .minecraft
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#3150 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> Did you delete your .minecraft's bin and resource folders?
#3151 [21:57] <squirrle> yes and tried to redownload them, and the resources folder is empty
#3152 [21:57] <[L]> Remind me again what the issue is when you buy the game and it still says not premium?
#3153 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> Bank's blocking/processing payment still, moneybookers/paypal being slow, or they're using some prepaid/gift card that blocks international payments due to fraud protection
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#3156 [22:01] <Fifty> I'm sure you hear this question a lot, but how can I start a server. I have searched for hours on google, and forums, and the tutorials I do find do not seem to work
#3157 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> Fifty - Download minecraft_server from minecraft.net/download -- run it, port forward as necessary if you're on a home connection behind a router
#3158 [22:03] <Fifty> yes I did that about a dozen times
#3159 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Got Teamviewer?
#3160 [22:03] <Fifty> yes, but I recently reset my computer, so I will just download it quick, give me a second
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#3162 [22:05] <Fifty> alright
#3163 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> /msg me your teamviewer info
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#3166 [22:06] <noahtehboss> hello can someone help me
#3167 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> With?
#3168 [22:07] <noahtehboss> umm yea i was putting the millienare mod on and now minecraft won't open
#3169 [22:07] <[L]> Remind me again what the issue is when you buy the game and it still says not premium? :l
#3170 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Run the launcher, before logging in, go to the options button and hit "Force Update"
#3171 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> [L] - Bank's blocking/processing payment still, moneybookers/paypal being slow, or they're using some prepaid/gift card that blocks international payments due to fraud protection
#3172 [22:08] <noahtehboss> i already bought minecraft though
#3173 [22:08] <Fifty> GreyVulpine you sure know your stuff!!
#3174 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Fifty - Still waiting on your PM
#3175 [22:08] <Fifty> oops sorry
#3176 [22:08] <[L]> Hm..
#3177 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> noahtehboss - Run the launcher, before logging in, go to the options button and hit "Force Update"
#3178 [22:08] <noahtehboss> ok i'll try that
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#3180 [22:10] <[AQ]Fatcamp> anyone here that can help me with an black screen problem?
#3181 [22:10] <noahtehboss> thank you grey vulpine your a life saver
#3182 [22:11] <[AQ]Fatcamp> i have tryed to reinstall java 64-bit. i have resintalled minecraft 3 times. i have tryed to give minecraft a specific amount off ram in an bat file and in java.
#3183 [22:11] <[AQ]Fatcamp> i have tryed to reinstall java 64-bit. i have resintalled minecraft 3 times. i have tryed to give minecraft a specific amount off ram in an bat file and in java.
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#3185 [22:11] <[AQ]Fatcamp> i dont get a crash report
#3186 [22:11] <[L]> GreyVulpine: Been 2 - 3 Days and used a Visa giftcard
#3187 [22:11] <[L]> :l
#3188 [22:11] <[AQ]Fatcamp> the closoest thing i got is in command one
#3189 [22:12] <xales> [L]: I've never heard of anyone being able to purchase it with a Visa giftcard
#3190 [22:12] <[L]> :l
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#3192 [22:14] <HelpME> PLease help. IM on on mac and whenever I try to get only one block rather than 40 blocks (rightclicking) i cant do it.
#3193 [22:16] <[L]> What
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#3195 [22:17] <HelpME> Well the mouse i have is the standard one click mouse. so when i just want to disband several blocks of, say iron, I cant.
#3196 [22:17] <HelpME> The mac mouse
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#3198 [22:18] <noahtehboss> okay i force updated my minecraft but the millianare game mode isn't working
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#3200 [22:20] <xales> noahtehboss: Mods aren't supported, unfortunately - they don't always work, and we generally aren't able to provide support for them here.
#3201 [22:20] <mib_7gva45> My minecraft launcher keeps saying its not downloaded when i try to log in to it please help
#3202 [22:20] <noahtehboss> so is there anyway it will work or no
#3203 [22:21] <xales> noahtehboss: Try following the instructions again, and if you can't get it to work, try asking somewhere related to that mod or modding.
#3204 [22:21] <xales> mib_7gva45: What does it say, in red letters, next to 'not downloaded'?
#3205 [22:21] <HelpME> Please answer my question^ though i know you are busy
#3206 [22:21] <noahtehboss> where would i read not downloaded
#3207 [22:22] <xales> HelpME: Just right click in the same manner you do in any other application
#3208 [22:22] <mib_7gva45> Yea it will work
#3209 [22:22] <xales> noahtehboss: I wasn't talking to you, which is why I prefixed someone else's nick to the message.
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#3211 [22:22] <mib_7gva45> i says not downloaded under "Play offline"
#3212 [22:23] <xales> mib_7gva45: Which of these do you see? http://i.imgur.com/V1pYh.png
#3213 [22:23] <HelpME> I tried that but it didnt work. the mouse is fully operational but the mac mouse doesnt have right clicking abilities
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#3215 [22:23] <noahtehboss> well i did the tutorial for it and then after the last person told me to force update all this stuff loaded
#3216 [22:23] <mib_7gva45> #2
#3217 [22:23] <froglegstew> hello?
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#3219 [22:23] <xales> mib_7gva45: Something is blocking your connection to minecraft.net, possibly a firewall. Try disabling any firewall software, then trying Minecraft again.
#3220 [22:24] <noahtehboss> well i can log in but for the tutorials it says press v to place village it does not say that for me
#3221 [22:24] <mib_7gva45> ok
#3222 [22:24] <froglegstew> i have a problem
#3223 [22:24] <xales> noahtehboss: Once again, installing and using mods is outside the scope of this channel. 'Force Update' restores the game to the default state.
#3224 [22:24] <xales> froglegstew: If you want help, you will have to elaborate on that.
#3225 [22:25] <noahtehboss> do you know where i should go for help on that or no
#3226 [22:25] <froglegstew> when i add skins as of 1.0 the helmet does not show up
#3227 [22:25] <xales> froglegstew: How are you adding a skin?
#3228 [22:25] <xales> noahtehboss: You could try looking in the forum thread for that mod.
#3229 [22:25] <oldtopman> noahtehboss: #risucraft
#3230 [22:25] <noahtehboss> what do you mean adding a skin
#3231 [22:26] <froglegstew> im going to minecraft.net then upload skin
#3232 [22:26] <HelpME> So say I have a block of dirt and i have a bunch of it say 40 all in one place how can i make them smaller such as single blocks, without right clicking
#3233 [22:26] <oldtopman> ??> noahtehboss only/you
#3234 [22:26] <xales> froglegstew: What exactly do you mean by 'the helmet does not show up'?
#3235 [22:26] <VoxelHead> noahtehboss: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#3236 [22:26] <VoxelHead> noahtehboss: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#3237 [22:26] <xales> HelpME: You have to use right click to do that
#3238 [22:27] <HelpME> thats my issue there is no right clicker on the Mac mouse.
#3239 [22:27] <HelpME> Nor is there on any mac mouse
#3240 [22:27] <xales> HelpME: It's possible to right click even if you do not have a physical button to do so.
#3241 [22:28] <froglegstew> when you do skinedit there you can see the helmet portion thats suppose to be on your head but my problem is that when i upload it it does not show up
#3242 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Helmet only shows up if you're wearing a helmet..
#3243 [22:29] <HelpME> yes i have tried clicking all around the mouse and nothing works any possible solution. there doesnt seem to be an issue with the mouse
#3244 [22:29] <wannabemac> What is the ussue?
#3245 [22:29] <wannabemac> issue*
#3246 [22:29] <froglegstew> so suppose i upload a wizard the hood does not show up but just the face
#3247 [22:29] <HelpME> My Mac mouse cannot right click
#3248 [22:29] <DreadLindwyrm> HelpME: possibly shift+click?
#3249 [22:29] <xales> HelpME: Hold alt and click.
#3250 [22:30] <DreadLindwyrm> Ah. I knew it would be a control key...
#3251 [22:31] <froglegstew> in my problem is not about the normal helmet you wear but the helmet that is in the skin itself
#3252 [22:31] <wannabemac> What are you talking about?
#3253 [22:31] <wannabemac> There is no helmet in skins
#3254 [22:31] <HelpME> I just tried and it didnt work luckily its CONTROL+Click!! Thank you
#3255 [22:32] <froglegstew> wow this isnt the best place to ask for skins cause it looks like none of you know about skins
#3256 [22:32] <DreadLindwyrm> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Skin
#3257 [22:32] <DreadLindwyrm> I know a little about it. Have you got your transparency right?
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#3259 [22:33] <froglegstew> well this does not work with many people
#3260 [22:33] <froglegstew> and im one of them
#3261 [22:33] <froglegstew> the helmet portion is the hat portion im talking about
#3262 [22:34] <[AQ]Fatcamp> can anyone hlpe me?
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#3264 [22:34] <wannabemac> What do you neeed?
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#3266 [22:34] <froglegstew> the helmet portion is the 2nd head that minecraftwiki talks about
#3267 [22:35] <[AQ]Fatcamp> [04:11] <[AQ]Fatcamp> i have tryed to reinstall java 64-bit. i have resintalled minecraft 3 times. i have tryed to give minecraft a specific amount off ram in an bat file and in java.
#3268 [22:35] <[AQ]Fatcamp> i get a black screen
#3269 [22:35] <[AQ]Fatcamp> after awhile in multiplayer
#3270 [22:35] <wannabemac> What version of java?
#3271 [22:35] <[AQ]Fatcamp> i have get no crash report the closest thign i have is test from cmd
#3272 [22:35] <Guest66741> after i play minecraft for a couple of minutes i always get the message "Java (TM) platform SE binary has stopped working" HELP
#3273 [22:35] <DreadLindwyrm> I'm just trying to think what could cause it, other than getting transparency wrong.
#3274 [22:35] <[AQ]Fatcamp> 30
#3275 [22:35] <xales> [AQ]Fatcamp: Using any mods? Texture packs?
#3276 [22:35] <[AQ]Fatcamp> no mods
#3277 [22:35] <xales> Guest66741: Reinstall Java
#3278 [22:36] <[AQ]Fatcamp> i have
#3279 [22:36] <[AQ]Fatcamp> alot off times
#3280 [22:36] <wannabemac> xales just ninjaed in jere.
#3281 [22:36] <[AQ]Fatcamp> oh sorry
#3282 [22:36] <wannabemac> here*
#3283 [22:36] <wannabemac> Damn typos.
#3284 [22:36] <Guest66741> I already reinstalled java not working
#3285 [22:37] <froglegstew> are you playing in browser or did you download
#3286 [22:37] <[AQ]Fatcamp> do anyone know what my problem is:S? im getting crazy here >.< its mostly happends then its people close to me
#3287 [22:37] <Guest66741> downlaod
#3288 [22:37] <[AQ]Fatcamp> in cmd i get this
#3289 [22:37] <[AQ]Fatcamp> java.lang.NullPointerException
#3290 [22:37] <[AQ]Fatcamp>         at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.B(SourceFile:2201)
#3291 [22:37] <[AQ]Fatcamp>         at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.k(SourceFile:1543)
#3292 [22:37] <[AQ]Fatcamp>         at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.x(SourceFile:705)
#3293 [22:37] <[AQ]Fatcamp>         at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:65
#3294 [22:37] <xales> [AQ]Fatcamp: Does it happen only in multiplayer, or single player as well?
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#3296 [22:37] <[AQ]Fatcamp> i havent tryed single player
#3297 [22:38] <Svish> Testing out the YogBox with the Millienere mod. Does anyone have any idea how to craft these japanese Paper Walls and Timber Frame things?
#3298 [22:38] <Guest66741> i havent tride multiplayer yet
#3299 [22:38] <froglegstew> you cant craft timber frames
#3300 [22:38] <Svish> what about those paper walls?
#3301 [22:38] <[AQ]Fatcamp> http://pastebin.com/0cLam1gz
#3302 [22:38] <xales> Svish: Unfortunately, support for mods is generally outside the scope of this channel.
#3303 [22:39] <froglegstew> you can only buy timber frames and paper walls
#3304 [22:39] <xales> [AQ]Fatcamp: From what I can tell, it looks like it might be a problem with the server, not your client.
#3305 [22:39] <xales> Try singleplayer, see if it occurs there.
#3306 [22:39] <froglegstew> go to millenaire minecraftforum page
#3307 [22:39] <Svish> ah ok, so I basically have to just wait until they craft it for me then. thanks :)
#3308 [22:39] <[AQ]Fatcamp> the thing is. its might take 1min or 1 hour:S
#3309 [22:39] <Guest66741> it does occur in single player not mulit0player
#3310 [22:40] <froglegstew> it looks like my problem is a bug that notch needs fixing
#3311 [22:40] <wannabemac> Notch is no longer the lead developer of minecraft.
#3312 [22:41] <xales> ??> Guest66741 only/you
#3313 [22:41] <VoxelHead> Guest66741: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#3314 [22:41] <VoxelHead> Guest66741: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#3315 [22:41] <wannabemac> xales, you are a ninja.
#3316 [22:42] <froglegstew> then whoever is the lead developer now
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#3318 [22:42] <froglegstew> ill just have to transfer the helmet portion to the face portion
#3319 [22:42] <DreadLindwyrm> I believe it is _jeb
#3320 [22:43] <froglegstew> only thing is my skin edit is stuck out of the screen because of my computers low resolution
#3321 [22:45] <froglegstew> ill just have to stick with an emo wizard than to a hooded wizard with almost not seen face
#3322 [22:45] <froglegstew> i took this wizard skin from the tales of kingdoms wizard
#3323 [22:47] <froglegstew> does jeb secretly update minecraft cause i heard some people that they did with the spawner eggs
#3324 [22:47] <ShaRose> no he doesn't
#3325 [22:47] <ShaRose> if he did, we'd know.
#3326 [22:48] <froglegstew> what about those spawner eggs that minecraftwiki and minecraftforum talks about
#3327 [22:48] <froglegstew> what about those spawner eggs that minecraftwiki and minecraftforum talks about
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#3330 [22:51] <DreadLindwyrm> Ah there are test builds.
#3331 [22:51] <DreadLindwyrm> If you look on the wiki there are links to it.
#3332 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> ?? snapshot
#3333 [22:52] <VoxelHead> snapshot: Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/11w50a/minecraft.jar
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#3335 [22:52] <DreadLindwyrm> Thank you grey. I never know what to poke the bots with...
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#3337 [22:54] <Fifty> Back
#3338 [22:56] * mib_qwc5vp [mib_qwc5vp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3339 [22:56] <mib_qwc5vp> hey
#3340 [22:56] <mib_qwc5vp> is this the plugin section?
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#3342 [22:56] <froglegstew> no
#3343 [22:56] <mib_qwc5vp> wheres that section?
#3344 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> For bukkit, try #bukkit
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#3346 [23:00] <froglegstew> im making my own skin
#3347 [23:00] <Simac06> Hello
#3348 [23:00] <froglegstew> hi
#3349 [23:00] <Simac06> I need help
#3350 [23:00] <froglegstew> what
#3351 [23:00] <mib_qwc5vp> How do i fix this with towny, You cannot destroy in wild
#3352 [23:00] <Simac06> Can I change my Minecraft Username>
#3353 [23:00] <Simac06> ?
#3354 [23:01] <Simac06> Ask bukkit
#3355 [23:01] <Simac06> I mean towny
#3356 [23:01] <Simac06> XD
#3357 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> You cannot change your minecraft username at this time
#3358 [23:01] <mib_qwc5vp> how?
#3359 [23:01] <Simac06> :<*>
#3360 [23:01] <Scott> GreyVulpine: Classic is dropped now.
#3361 [23:01] <froglegstew> simac06 http://minecraftirc.net/thread-10.html
#3362 [23:02] <Simac06> ummmm...... send a msg i guess
#3363 [23:02] <Scott> 7 yes, 0 no.
#3364 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Alright then.
#3365 [23:02] <Scott> Even if the people who didn't vote vote no, it wouldn't matter
#3366 [23:02] <Simac06> NOOOOO
#3367 [23:02] <Simac06> I NEED 30$ NOW!
#3368 [23:02] <Simac06> D:
#3369 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Just means we'll really need to put together a good FAQ
#3370 [23:02] <wannabemac> I have to go.
#3371 [23:02] <Scott> Ye
#3372 [23:02] <wannabemac> Wait what Grey?
#3373 [23:03] <wannabemac> FAQ for what?
#3374 [23:03] <Scott> We're going to need DopeGhoti to clean out VoxelHead's FAQs as well.
#3375 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> As a channel, we've decided to stop providing support for the outdated classic client on minecraft.net
#3376 [23:03] <wannabemac> Didnt we already do that?
#3377 [23:03] <Simac06> What are u talking about
#3378 [23:03] <Simac06> ?
#3379 [23:03] <froglegstew> fusocking?
#3380 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Not officially, no.
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#3382 [23:04] <Simac06> The reason i wanna change my username is because it was my sisters account and IMA boy -.-
#3383 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Simac06 - This is a community-run support channel. We're staffed by volunteers of the community that assist with things minecraft.
#3384 [23:04] <Simac06> Okay then?
#3385 [23:04] <WILLFORK> Hello
#3386 [23:04] <Simac06> Bye i guess
#3387 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Simac06 - There's no possible way of changing your username. Sorry.
#3388 [23:04] <Scott> Simac06: Alternatively, you could get a sex change.
#3389 [23:04] <wannabemac> LOL>
#3390 [23:04] <froglegstew> why does the above say read the fusucking topic?
#3391 [23:05] <Simac06> Okay there is but i have to pay 30$
#3392 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Simac06 - 26.95
#3393 [23:05] <Scott> froglegstew: Read the topic. you will see.
#3394 [23:05] <Simac06> IDC XD
#3395 [23:05] <froglegstew> lol typo fusucking
#3396 [23:05] <Simac06> Well thx bye
#3397 [23:05] <wannabemac> Bye,
#3398 [23:05] <xales> froglegstew: It's not a typo, and it's fscking.
#3399 [23:05] <wannabemac> Damn it... My typos will not end.
#3400 [23:05] <froglegstew> i font know why my name is fraglegstew
#3401 [23:05] <wannabemac> I am becoming lazy with my typing.
#3402 [23:06] * wannabemac slabs himself.
#3402 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> froglegstew - Because you didn't put in a username when you joined. froglegstew is chosen at random for you
#3403 [23:06] <froglegstew> i chose dragonlight awhile ago
#3404 [23:06] <wannabemac> C ya later guys.
#3405 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Then change your nickname with /nick dragonlight
#3406 [23:06] <WILLFORK> i'm sorry what is this "topic" you speak of?
#3407 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> WILLFORK - Look at the top of the channel
#3408 [23:07] <froglegstew> wannabemac slabs himself?
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#3410 [23:08] <dragonlight> WILLFORK its called minecrafthelp thats the topic
#3411 [23:08] <WILLFORK> I just have a question about an error i'm getting trying to open up the Minecraft.exe file, having just downloaded it
#3412 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> WILLFORK - What error would that be?
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#3415 [23:09] <Palewhite> I'm trying to run a server and it is giving me the error "Failed to run Main-Class manifest attribute...." when I run the server jar file. Any ideas?
#3416 [23:09] <Palewhite> minecraft is a pain just to get accept to talk... sheesh
#3417 [23:09] <dragonlight> hi
#3418 [23:09] <Palewhite> Hello.
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#3420 [23:09] <dragonlight> hello
#3421 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> Palewhite - Paste the entire error to pastebin.com, submit it, and give us the URL
#3422 [23:10] <MrWolf> whenever i open my inventory minecraft crashes
#3423 [23:10] <WILLFORK> well, the "Java Virtual Machine Launcher" window pops up, reading "Fatal exception occurred. Program will exit."
#3424 [23:10] <dragonlight> that happened to me before MrWolf
#3425 [23:11] <MrWolf> i have no idea why
#3426 [23:11] <MrWolf> how did u get it to stop
#3427 [23:12] <dragonlight> MrWolf i just decided to play on a new world that wasnt made before 1.0
#3428 [23:12] <MrWolf> hmm
#3429 [23:12] <WILLFORK> sorry, my question's sort of lost in the middle there
#3430 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> WILLFORK - Could you try uninstalling and reinstalling java from java.com?
#3431 [23:12] <mib_qwc5vp> unclaimed: unclaimed_zone_build: 'true' unclaimed_zone_destroy: 'true' unclaimed_zone_item_use: 'true' unclaimed_zone_ignore: 6,14,15,16,17,18,21,31,37,38,39,40,50,56,65,66,73,74,81,82,83,86,89 unclaimed_zone_switch: 'true' unclaimed_zone_enderman_protect: 'false'
#3432 [23:13] <WILLFORK> alright, i'll try that
#3433 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_qwc5vp - We do not assist with bukkit permissions issues here. Try #bukkit
#3434 [23:13] <dragonlight> what is this unclaimed
#3435 [23:13] <MrWolf> dragonlight i have to play on 1.0
#3436 [23:14] <Palewhite> http://pastebin.com/TwkpdVKJ
#3437 [23:14] <dragonlight> MrWolf what version are you playing on
#3438 [23:14] <MrWolf> 1.0
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#3442 [23:15] <dragonlight> MrWolf since there have been big changes in 1.0 thats why it crashes your inventory
#3443 [23:15] <mib_l66wvy> Help: The verification number is not posting to my email account.
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#3445 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_l66wvy - The minecraft servers have been overloaded the past few days due to the holiday rush. Just be patient.
#3446 [23:15] <MrWolf> dragonlight so theres pretty much no way i can play on 1.0?
#3447 [23:16] <dragonlight> MrWolf well does it lag badly
#3448 [23:16] <MrWolf> dragonlight no
#3449 [23:16] <dragonlight> MrWolf then you just need to make a new world
#3450 [23:16] <dragonlight> MrWolf then you just need to make a new world
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#3452 [23:17] <MrWolf> dragonlight i tried that and i was all fine until i tried to open my inventory and minecraft crashed
#3453 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> Palewhite - Are you trying to run a classic server?
#3454 [23:17] <Palewhite> Yes.
#3455 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> Why not just run the start-server.bat that you get from the .zip?
#3456 [23:18] <dragonlight> MrWolf at my laptop that always happens but when i try a new world its fine but when i open my inventory at old worlds it hangs instead of crash
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#3458 [23:19] <dragonlight> MrWolf so I decided to play on a better computer
#3459 [23:19] <Palewhite> Because it comes up saying that it does not recognize the action.
#3460 [23:19] <dragonlight> MrWolf now i play minecraft on me desktop
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#3462 [23:19] <MrWolf> im playing on my desktop
#3463 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> Palewhite - Pastebin the contents of the cmd prompt?
#3464 [23:19] <MomOf3> Please help...I paid for a minecraft account for my son and have been waiting for a verification code since the 23rd. I need it to get him set up on my computer. I have a gift code...is that the same thing?
#3465 [23:20] <dragonlight> MrWolf then maybe you need a better computer
#3466 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> MomOf3 - Does he have his own minecraft account at minecraft.net?
#3467 [23:20] <MomOf3> I think so because when I try to register him, it says I need to enter the verification number.
#3468 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> MomOf3 - He'll log into the minecraft account at minecraft.net, and go to his profile page. There, he should see a "Redeem" link. That's where he'll put in the gift code that you purchased.
#3469 [23:20] <dragonlight> MrWolf with high video card and higher ram and stuff
#3470 [23:20] <MrWolf> i just got this computer and it was working fine the other day
#3471 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> MomOf3 - Ah, that's different
#3472 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> MomOf3 - He'll need to check his email to confirm his email/account
#3473 [23:21] <dragonlight> whats your video card version?
#3474 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> MomOf3 - You can have another verification email sent to him by going to: http://www.minecraft.net/sendemailverification
#3475 [23:21] <MrWolf> it was working fine yesterday
#3476 [23:21] <MomOf3> I have been checking his email on and off since last week but have not had a response.
#3477 [23:21] <dragonlight> your minecraft works fine yesterday?
#3478 [23:22] <MomOf3> I will try again. I thought the server may be backlogged with holiday purchases, but it seems like a long time.
#3479 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> Mojang's email provider has been having problems with the load of people purchasing minecraft for the holidays
#3480 [23:22] <MrWolf> yeah now when i try to open my inventory while playing minecraft crashes
#3481 [23:23] <dragonlight> do you have any other programs on
#3482 [23:23] <MrWolf> just skype and google chrome, but thoes were both on yesterday as well
#3483 [23:23] <MomOf3> Ok, now it is responding that an email was just sent so I will keep checking all the mail including span and trash (just in case)
#3484 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> MrWolf - Any mods? Have you tried a Force update of minecraft's files?
#3485 [23:24] <dragonlight> mrwolf what do you have on googlechrome besides this chat
#3486 [23:25] <MrWolf> nothing and GreyVulpine i tried to load a mod but i deleated it
#3487 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> Head to your launcher, do a "Force Update" using the options menu.
#3488 [23:25] <WILLFORK> ok, i reinstalled java
#3489 [23:25] <WILLFORK> gonna try to open it again
#3490 [23:25] <dragonlight> what mod is that mrwolf
#3491 [23:26] <MrWolf> Too many items
#3492 [23:26] <MrWolf> GreyVulpine what is a force update
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#3494 [23:26] <Ayui> I want to play multiplayer
#3495 [23:26] <dragonlight> mrwolf go to the minecraft launcher
#3496 [23:27] <Ayui> can i have a Active ip
#3497 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Ayui - mc.minecraftirc.net
#3498 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Ayui - You can check one of these sites for a server ip:
#3499 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> ??> Ayui smp/servers
#3500 [23:27] <VoxelHead> Ayui: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3501 [23:27] <VoxelHead> Ayui: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#3502 [23:27] <Ayui> ty
#3503 [23:27] <MomOf3> One other issue: My son has an old HP that says the video card is too old for the minecraft game to work. Do you know if I can replace the card?
#3504 [23:27] <MrWolf> ok dragonlight
#3505 [23:27] <WILLFORK> OMG IT WORKED
#3506 [23:27] <MomOf3> yay willfork!
#3507 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> MomOf3 - You can try updating the video card's drivers, but if it still tells you it doesn't work, then you may need to update the video card itself
#3508 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> MrWolf - Did you download the minecraft client from minecraft.net/download?
#3509 [23:28] <MrWolf> yeah
#3510 [23:28] <WILLFORK> thank you
#3511 [23:28] <WILLFORK> :D :D
#3512 [23:28] <MomOf3> Is there a utube video of bow to do that or is it pretty easy? Not sure how to go about upgrading video drivers...
#3513 [23:28] <dragonlight> mrwolf when you get to the launcher press options then press force update
#3514 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> MrWolf - Launch it. Before logging in, you'll see an options butt.
#3515 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> What dragonlight said..
#3516 [23:29] <MomOf3> Not sure what the card actually is anyway...
#3517 [23:29] <MrWolf> ok i did and it said will force
#3518 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> MomOf3 - Are you at the computer right now?
#3519 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> MrWolf - Then log in as normal
#3520 [23:29] <dragonlight> mrwolf then press done then type in you username and password then login
#3521 [23:30] <MrWolf> ok
#3522 [23:30] <dragonlight> mrwolf then wait for it to update then when its done try it if it works
#3523 [23:31] <MrWolf> thank you, you solved my problem dragonlight and GreyVulpine
#3524 [23:31] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#3524 [23:31] <MrWolf> *applauds*
#3525 [23:32] <dragonlight> ;)
#3526 [23:32] <ryanxpei> is there a way to connect to my server as another user to test some chest settings without having to purchase another minecraft account?
#3527 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> There is not
#3528 [23:32] <dragonlight> yes ryanxpei
#3529 [23:32] <dragonlight> if it is a cracked
#3530 [23:33] * GreyVulpine coughs
#3530 [23:33] <ryanxpei> I don't use cracked because I bought the game
#3531 [23:33] <ryanxpei> but I just can't buy from my own shops so I'm not sure if they are working as intended
#3532 [23:33] <dragonlight> is the server cracked?
#3533 [23:33] <ryanxpei> no
#3534 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> dragonlight - Please don't talk about cracked/pirated versions of minecraft here.
#3535 [23:33] * TheNoodle slaps dragonlight in a way Grey doesn't want to
#3535 [23:33] <dragonlight> then ask a friend who plays minecraft to that
#3536 [23:34] <ryanxpei> Nobody I know plays it XD
#3537 [23:34] <ryanxpei> I don't think they'd want to log in whenever I ask them to to test things all the time heh
#3538 [23:35] <dragonlight> then youll need to buy another account or ask one of your mods to do it
#3539 [23:35] <Palewhite> GreyVulpine - http://pastebin.com/rky4wiYx
#3540 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Palewhite - What version of windows are you running?
#3541 [23:35] <dragonlight> or ask a someone who goes to your server
#3542 [23:35] <Palewhite> 7 home
#3543 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> Palewhite - Go to your start menu, right click on "Computer" and hit "Properties". Tell me the system type there, whether it's 32 or 64 bit
#3544 [23:36] <Palewhite> 64
#3545 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Go back to where you have the classic server files, right click on start-server.bat, choose "edit" and open the file up. Copy the first line in there, here.
#3546 [23:37] <dragonlight> why do people hate cracked we just have cracked because we dont have money to spend thousands on a computer game
#3547 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> dragonlight - thousands?
#3548 [23:38] <ryanxpei> it cost me 26$, which isn't thousands
#3549 [23:38] <ryanxpei> actually, I'm not even sure how it came to that, must have been a lot of tax on it or something
#3550 [23:38] <Palewhite> java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer
#3551 [23:38] <dragonlight> well then convert 26$ to our currency then
#3552 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is 26.95, which is half of what current games cost new.
#3553 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> dragonlight - If you're enjoying minecraft, why do you feel you shouldn't pay for it?
#3554 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Palewhite - Please change that line to:
#3555 [23:39] <dragonlight> because my parents would not allow
#3556 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Then I invite you to leave.
#3557 [23:39] <Palewhite> If you have 26 buck you can go to walmart and get a visa gift card.
#3558 [23:39] <dragonlight> and good thing about it is my coucin bought it for me
#3559 [23:39] <ryanxpei> was it 20$ not long ago?
#3560 [23:39] <xales> ryanxpei: It's 20 euros.
#3561 [23:40] <xales> ryanxpei: Which is around $27 in USD.
#3562 [23:40] <ryanxpei> ah, I thought it was on sale or something XD
#3563 [23:40] <ryanxpei> yeah it displays 26.95 on the site
#3564 [23:40] <dragonlight> in my country its Php 1300
#3565 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer
#3566 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Replace with that line, Palewhite, including the quotes
#3567 [23:40] <ryanxpei> I guess I have to buy another copy
#3568 [23:41] <Palewhite> Ah... makes sense just need to tell it where to go. Wonder why it used to work and now it doesn't. I had one running a few months back.
#3569 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> Palewhite - For some, the path variable of their windows installation doesn't mention where "Java" is pointing to
#3570 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to explicitly tell windows where the java exe lies on the system
#3571 [23:42] <ryanxpei> I guess I can always give away the second account when I'm finished using it for testing? Do they allow xfers I wonder.
#3572 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> They do not, ryanxpei
#3573 [23:44] <dragonlight> transfers you mean giving your account to somebody else?
#3574 [23:44] <ryanxpei> yes but through an official process, not just giving someone else my information to log in.
#3575 [23:44] <dragonlight> because my rich cousin gives away free accounts to trusted mods that dont have an official minecraft account
#3576 [23:45] <Palewhite> Another question. I have a single player 1.0 world that I want to transfer to that multi player classic. Am I still able to do that?
#3577 [23:45] <Palewhite> I know I was before all the new stuffs.
#3578 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> You cannot transfer a 1.0.0 world back to classic, no
#3579 [23:46] * mib_j7cuse [mib_j7cuse@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3580 [23:46] <dragonlight> transfer it to creative yes
#3581 [23:46] <dragonlight> classic no
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#3583 [23:47] <HannahBeeC> Hi there, I can't get minecraft to play in my browser, it gets stuck and wont move just as the loading bar is almost finished.. suggesstions?
#3584 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> HannahBeeC - Has it ever worked before?
#3585 [23:48] <dragonlight> me too so i decided to download instead
#3586 [23:48] <HannahBeeC> First time trying, bought my account just before I went away a week ago and am only just getting to try it. really wanted to play multiplayer
#3587 [23:49] <MomOf3> an update: went to my son's desktop and upgraded his video card and will download the free version to see if it will run.
#3588 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> HannahBeeC - What operating system are you on? Windows? MacOS? Linux?
#3589 [23:49] <dragonlight> download it it works better with downloading
#3590 [23:49] <HannahBeeC> windows 7
#3591 [23:49] <Palewhite> How far back to multi-player classic go as far as updates?
#3592 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Palewhite- Classic has been discontinued for over a year now
#3593 [23:49] <HannahBeeC> it is downloaded, how do i play it multiplayer on a server with others on the downloaded version though?
#3594 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> There has been no further development on classic from Mojang
#3595 [23:50] <dragonlight> go to multiplayer then type in the ip of a server
#3596 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> HannahBeeC - Question for you. Does your windows username happen to contain an exclaimation mark (!) in it?
#3597 [23:50] <HannahBeeC> nope. its the same as my chat one in here
#3598 [23:50] <Palewhite> Than what multiplayer have they been working on? Can I host a new version of multiplayer?
#3599 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> Palewhite - For premium, the paid for minecraft that's up to date, you'll need to run the server binary that you get from here: http://www.minecraft.net/download
#3600 [23:50] <HannahBeeC> wait, windows username???
#3601 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Palewhite - The server file is at the bottom
#3602 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> HannahBeeC - Yes
#3603 [23:51] <dragonlight> HannahBeeC press multiplayer then put in the ip of a server
#3604 [23:51] <SinZ> classic was discontinued for almost 2years...
#3605 [23:51] <HannahBeeC> where do i get an ip?
#3606 [23:51] <HannahBeeC> whats a windows username?
#3607 [23:51] <dragonlight> find a server they will tell you there ip
#3608 [23:51] <SinZ> january/febuary 2010 was the end of classic
#3609 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> HannahBeeC - You said you ran Windows. Do you log into windows with a username when you boot up your machine?
#3610 [23:52] <dragonlight> but classic still runs as free
#3611 [23:52] <HannahBeeC> oh right yeah no it doesn't have an exclamation mark
#3612 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> HannahBeeC - Could you just double check for me. Go to your start menu, in the search bar at the bottom, type in: %userprofile%
#3613 [23:53] <Palewhite> Oh wow I missed that.
#3614 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> HannahBeeC - Press enter, make sure the folder that pops up, has no ! symbol in that
#3615 [23:53] <HannahBeeC> Yup its just Hannah
#3616 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> HannahBeeC - Alright. Could you go here: http://javatester.org/version.html
#3617 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Tell me what version of java you're on?
#3618 [23:54] <dragonlight> whats the ! for?
#3619 [23:54] <HannahBeeC> 1.6.0_29 :)
#3620 [23:54] <HannahBeeC> from sun microsystems inc
#3621 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> dragonlight - For those using windows, having a ! in their windows username can screw up minecraft from downloading its files
#3622 [23:55] <dragonlight> oh
#3623 [23:55] <DreadLindwyrm> I'm guessing it's part of the command codes involved in the download, so it misroutes.
#3624 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft downloads its files, on windows, to c:\users\username\appdata\.minecraft\
#3625 [23:55] <dragonlight> me i just installed the latest java awhile ago
#3626 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> If you had a !, it'll have c:\users\username!\appdata\.minecraft\
#3627 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> If you took any programming at all, you'll notice that having a ! can screw up a parser, since ! stands for a certain command.
#3628 [23:57] <dragonlight> what if we changed the username does the ! still show up?
#3629 [23:57] <SinZ> why doesnt minecraft use %APPDATA%\.minecraft\
#3630 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Changing the username does not change the foler's path
#3631 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> SinZ - Minecraft does use %appdata%/.minecraft
#3632 [23:57] <HannahBeeC> was that the right info?
#3633 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> %appdata% is the shortcut to c:\users\username\appdata\
#3634 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> HannahBeeC - Yes, moment
#3635 [23:57] <SinZ> I know, but wouldnt it fix the parser slightly
#3636 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> SinZ - It would not. it's a java problem
#3637 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> HannahBeeC - Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#3638 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> HannahBeeC - Press enter, find the .minecraft folder. Delete it, then try minecraft again in the browser
#3639 [23:58] <dragonlight> or run
#3640 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> There is no "Run" command in windows vista or 7
#3641 [23:59] <HannahBeeC> will i lose my single player game?
#3642 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't show up by default anymore in the start menu.
#3643 [23:59] <dragonlight> oh im using windows xp
#3644 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> HannahBeeC- Ah, then delete everything but the saves folder
#3645 [23:59] <dragonlight> backup your saves
#3646 [23:59] <HannahBeeC> done
#3647 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> Now run minecraft.