#1 [00:03] <moocow> im not sure......could i just give you the gaming
#2 [00:03] <moocow> graphics score?
#3 [00:07] <moocow> hello?
#4 [00:08] <izzd> hi find the name of ur gfx card
#5 [00:08] <Wug> :dx
#6 [00:08] <WugBot> dx: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#7 [00:08] <WugBot> dx: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#8 [00:09] <izzd> if u lag then it's possibly coz ur gfx card sucks
#9 [00:10] <Wug> izzd: do you need help or something
#10 [00:10] <Wug> because you're certainly not helping
#11 [00:10] <izzd> i would like him to name his pc specs
#12 [00:11] <Wug> izzd: well
#13 [00:11] <Wug> you cant just say "do it", you must explain how
#14 [00:11] <izzd> I asked questions of him
#15 [00:12] <Wug> "<izzd> hi find the name of ur gfx card"
#16 [00:12] <Wug> you cant just say "do it", you must explain how
#17 [00:12] <izzd> i only want to help i don't hate him or anything
#18 [00:12] <Wug> I didnt accuse you of hating him
#19 [00:12] <Wug> I guided you in the direction of being more helpful
#20 [00:13] <izzd> i was gona tell to dl qpuid or smthn
#21 [00:13] <izzd> ok
#22 [00:13] <Wug> use whole words
#23 [00:13] <Wug> and dxdiag works just as well, and is built into every windows system
#24 [00:13] <izzd> ok :)
#25 [00:15] * picker [picker@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#26 [00:17] <moocow> hold on one sec.....im having a little trouble
#27 [00:17] <johnii> I'm a minecraft newb…well, been playing for three weeks (kind of intensely) but I'm wondering why it seems creepers and zombies sometimes don't go away when day hits
#28 [00:18] <Wug> johnii: some mobs burn in sunlight (zombies and skeletons)
#29 [00:18] <Wug> creepers do not
#30 [00:18] <Wug> exposure to direct sunlight is required
#31 [00:18] <Wug> mobs that are swimming in water or in rain will not burn
#32 [00:19] <Wug> light in the desert during rain is not bright enough to burn mobs
#33 [00:19] <Wug> does that explain everything
#34 [00:20] <johnii> Wug: yes, I think so, thanks! Just to be clear if a creeper spawns near my house I'm stuck with it until I kill it. True?
#35 [00:20] * SushiDude [SushiDude@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#36 [00:20] <moocow> System Information
#37 [00:21] <moocow> wow
#38 [00:21] <Wug> johnii: mobs further than ... 32 (?) blocks away will despawn randomly
#39 [00:21] <Wug> moocow: pastebin the dxdiag report please
#40 [00:21] <Wug> :dx
#41 [00:21] <WugBot> dx: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#42 [00:21] <WugBot> dx: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#43 [00:22] * mib_fll20r [mib_fll20r@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#44 [00:23] <johnii> wug: perfect, thanks for that. Been wondering what the deal was for a week
#45 [00:25] <mib_fll20r> j8877s6831-4-4-4-4-
#46 [00:27] <moocow> http://pastebin.com/WcH0j4BU is that what you were asking for Wug?
#47 [00:30] <johnii> wug: one more question…is the spawning of mobs time based or time+light? If I theoretically create a dark space with the right floor (i.e. dirt) will mobs spawn there and if so will they spawn at night or at anytime?
#48 [00:42] <moocow> hello?
#49 [00:42] <moocow> i have the name now
#50 [00:49] * gamakichi [gamakichi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#51 [00:49] <gamakichi> hello
#52 [00:49] <gamakichi> whenever i start up minecraft it just crashes and closes its self
#53 [00:49] <gamakichi> its my first time starting it up
#54 [00:56] * Damein [Damein@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#55 [00:56] <Damein> hey anyone on that can help mer
#56 [00:57] <Damein> i want to have a survival server kinda like the yogcast survival island and was wondering how to make it multiplayer
#57 [01:07] * _EricReitz_ [_EricReitz_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#58 [01:12] * WillMacLellan [WillMacLellan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#59 [01:13] <WillMacLellan> hey,ive had minecraft for a long time,todya,i put in some mods to see if they were working,because for a while they werent, and i went into my game,and they hadnt worked,i logged out,came back like 2 hours later,and when i tried to log in,it would not let me and said not downloaded,any idea how to fix it?
#60 [01:16] <xales> WillMacLellan: What does it say in red letters to the left of 'not downloaded'?
#61 [01:16] <WillMacLellan> it says login failed
#62 [01:17] <xales> WillMacLellan: 'login failed' means your username or password is incorrect.
#63 [01:17] <WillMacLellan> okay,i will try again
#64 [01:20] <WillMacLellan> all good,thanks (:
#65 [01:21] <Damein> xales would you be able to help me too or no?
#66 [01:21] <xales> Damein: With?
#67 [01:22] <moocow> my minecraft is very laggy
#68 [01:22] <Damein> i have a survival map i was wondering if there was any way i can change it to a multiplayer server one me and my friends can play on
#69 [01:23] <xales> Damein: You would have to run a server. There is a guide on the wiki for doing so.
#70 [01:24] <Damein> i have a server right now and i can go on it i just dont know how i would change the server to the survival map?
#71 [01:25] <moocow> when i first start out, the game runs very smoothly, but after a while it lags worse and worse. how can i help stop lag?
#72 [01:25] <xales> Damein: Copy your world from the saves directory into the location you are starting the server from, and rename it to 'world'
#73 [01:26] <Damein> kk
#74 [01:26] <xales> moocow: You could try installing a mod like Optifine, lowering the graphics settings, or getting a better computer.
#75 [01:26] * Freddo [Freddo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#76 [01:29] <Damein> where would i copy the world i have in my save file from .minecraft to.... server.properties ?
#77 [01:30] <xales> Damein: No, the directory that contains server.properties
#78 [01:32] <johnii> Happy New Year everyone, thanks for all the help you gave me in 2011. :D
#79 [01:35] <Damein> i see the file world in the server do i delete that world and place the downloaded map where that is and rename it world?
#80 [01:36] <xales> Damein: Yes.
#81 [01:36] <xales> (Doing so, however, will delete the server's current world)
#82 [01:38] <Damein> thats ok it was garbage
#83 [01:38] <Damein> thanks man that helped alot i thought it was gunna be harder
#84 [01:39] <Damein> have a great night i know me and my friend will
#85 [01:41] * CrusaderDeleters [CrusaderDeleters@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#86 [01:41] <CrusaderDeleters> boy do I have a bug. :)
#87 [01:41] <CrusaderDeleters> alright, so then basically, I have a ghost stick and diamond
#88 [01:41] <CrusaderDeleters> they are in my inventory, but they won't leave it.
#89 [01:42] <xales> A...ghost stick?
#90 [01:42] <CrusaderDeleters> when I click them
#91 [01:42] <CrusaderDeleters> they kinda duplicate
#92 [01:42] <CrusaderDeleters> when I add them to my current stack of sticks and diamonds
#93 [01:42] <xales> Have you tried closing Minecraft and reopening it...?
#94 [01:42] <CrusaderDeleters> they... don't add it to the stack
#95 [01:42] <CrusaderDeleters> I closed the world and reopened
#96 [01:43] <xales> Have you completely exited Minecraft and reopened it?
#97 [01:43] <xales> Additionally, are you using any mods?
#98 [01:43] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm using zombe's modpack, but that doesn't dupe anything
#99 [01:43] <CrusaderDeleters> and they are still in my inventory./
#100 [01:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Im going to see what invedit reads these as.
#101 [01:45] <xales> Mods are known to cause...interesting problems like that.
#102 [01:46] <CrusaderDeleters> yeah. Invedit doesn't even read anything there.
#103 [01:46] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm going to try to fill my inventory with crap
#104 [01:47] <CrusaderDeleters> the problem left by opening my chest
#105 [01:47] <CrusaderDeleters> but I don't think this issue was caused by zombe's modpack, though.
#106 [01:52] <CrusaderDeleters> also, happy new years guys.
#107 [01:54] * gerzel [gerzel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#108 [02:02] * HelloWorld12341 [HelloWorld12341@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#109 [02:09] * mib_kymt6t [mib_kymt6t@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#110 [02:12] * think_ [think_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#111 [02:13] * DarkSkyes [DarkSkyes@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#112 [02:14] * think [think@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#113 [02:33] * think [think@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#114 [02:35] * andrewkm [andrewkm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#115 [02:37] * Pickle_Mobile [Pickle_Mobile@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#116 [02:42] * TrueWolves [TrueWolves@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#117 [02:45] * DarkSkyes [DarkSkyes@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#118 [02:53] <Pickle_Mobile> Guys check out my new mod! 1.0.0 miracle machine mod!
#119 [03:11] * SushiDude [SushiDude@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#120 [03:19] * SushiDude [SushiDude@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#121 [03:23] <Pickle_Mobile> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/910185-100-miracle-machine-stage-1/page__p__11588378__fromsearch__1#entry11588378 My new mod :D
#122 [03:24] <Pickle_Mobile> If you can, can you post on it, I need it to bump up to the top of the list again :)
#123 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> Please don't advertise here.
#124 [03:26] <Pickle_Mobile> Sorry, I'm just so happy it's done :)
#125 [03:52] * _EricReitz_ [_EricReitz_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#126 [03:53] * muttdog [muttdog@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#127 [03:53] <muttdog> hi, this happens whenever i try starting my mc server on linux
#128 [03:53] <muttdog> http://pastebin.com/mFuPr1q1
#129 [03:55] <GreyVulpine> Either you're not executing the command where you have minecraft_server.jar, or minecraft_server.jar is named something different
#130 [03:58] <TheBadShepperd> It worked when I executed "java -Xms400M -Xmx400M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui", I was just doing "java minecraft_server.jar", i dont know what the difference is but
#131 [03:59] * TheBadShepperd is new to Minecraft.
#131 [03:59] <TheBadShepperd> Which one are you exceuting, muttdog?
#132 [04:00] <TheBadShepperd> The one thing I know about Minecraft is unhelpful. :(
#133 [04:03] * Keltinray [Keltinray@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#134 [04:06] * dizzyone [dizzyone@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#135 [04:08] * AndrewPH [AndrewPH@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#136 [04:09] * dopeghoti [dopeghoti@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#137 [04:10] * Pickle_Mobile [Pickle_Mobile@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#138 [04:18] * Miner_Dave [Miner_Dave@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#139 [04:18] * Understudy [Understudy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#140 [04:29] * squiggy [squiggy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#141 [04:29] * claude [claude@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#142 [04:29] * claude [claude@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#143 [04:29] * Pickle_Mobile [Pickle_Mobile@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#144 [04:34] * kauer [kauer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#145 [04:34] * kauer [kauer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#146 [04:34] * kauer [kauer@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#147 [04:35] * SushiDude [SushiDude@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#148 [05:34] * __EricReitz__ [__EricReitz__@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#149 [05:39] * Endovene [Endovene@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#150 [05:46] <auscompgeek> TheBadShepperd: that's setting how much RAM the server uses
#151 [05:46] <auscompgeek> TheBadShepperd: 400MB is only good for a few users
#152 [05:46] * Understudy [Understudy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#153 [05:46] * AndrewPH [AndrewPH@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#154 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> I think TheBadShepperd wants to learn what the difference between java ".jar file here" and java -cp ".jar file here" means
#155 [05:47] <TheBadShepperd> The setting was not what I meant. I had to use the full command in order for it to work, which I was thinking was that guy's problem
#156 [05:47] * DopeGhoti [DopeGhoti@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#157 [05:47] <TheBadShepperd> Just java minecrafthingy.jar doesn't work.
#158 [05:47] <wqZimsky> You trying to run a server?
#159 [05:48] <TheBadShepperd> I set something up so my brother could play with me.
#160 [05:51] <Wug> TheBadShepperd: I dont think java will let you just specify a jar file
#161 [05:51] <Wug> and no other arguments
#162 [05:51] <Wug> you can do "java -jar minecraftthingy.jar"
#163 [05:51] <Wug> but I dont think "java minecraftthingy.jar" will work
#164 [05:53] * AndrewPH [AndrewPH@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#165 [05:53] * Understudy [Understudy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#166 [05:53] * DopeGhoti [DopeGhoti@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#167 [06:00] * Xprt [Xprt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#168 [06:00] <Xprt> Hey, I just bought minecraft from the site like 2 hours ago and it says my status should be updated, but it isn't.
#169 [06:00] <Xprt> Is that normal?
#170 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> Depending on what you used to pay for minecraft, it has been known to take several hours for payments to be processed. If you used a wire transfer from your bank, it could take up to 5 business days.
#171 [06:02] <Xprt> I used my CC.
#172 [06:03] <Xprt> Thanks for the info. :)
#173 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> Call your credit card's customer support, see if there's a record of payment for minecraft going to Mojang AB
#174 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> Only way to make sure
#175 [06:12] * peru [peru@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#176 [06:13] * Nefairo [Nefairo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#177 [06:14] * TheReddeH [TheReddeH@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#178 [06:18] * DeadFury222 [DeadFury222@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#179 [06:19] <DeadFury222> Hello
#180 [06:19] <DeadFury222> I get an error when trying to run minecraft(after logging in): http://pastebin.com/eECuRgp7
#181 [06:20] <DeadFury222> Can someone help me please?
#182 [06:22] * tyteen4a03 [tyteen4a03@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#183 [06:22] * pico [pico@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#184 [06:24] * SushiDude [SushiDude@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#185 [06:26] <DeadFury222> *bump*
#186 [06:34] <DeadFury222> heey
#187 [06:39] * mib_qnknrv [mib_qnknrv@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#188 [06:40] <mib_qnknrv> Can you place a regular block on top of a slab and have them be completely flush against eachother? whenever i try to do so the regular block floats in mid-air
#189 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> mib_qnknrv - Nope
#190 [06:43] * harrizou [harrizou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#191 [06:43] <mib_qnknrv> thats odd, i see so many pictures of it
#192 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Probably see double slabs then
#193 [06:48] * bildramer [bildramer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#194 [06:50] * Freddy [Freddy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#195 [06:58] * Patze [Patze@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#196 [07:11] <harrizou> where can I get info on playing on the Mac
#197 [07:11] <harrizou> Just purchased game but java applets not working...
#198 [07:13] <peru> your mistake for using Mac
#199 [07:13] <peru> ...just kidding
#200 [07:14] * CoZmicShReddeR [CoZmicShReddeR@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#201 [07:22] * Pulec [Pulec@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#202 [07:23] * mudpit [mudpit@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#203 [07:24] * Syndic [Syndic@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#204 [07:25] <mudpit> how do you add people to a minecraft server
#205 [07:25] <mudpit> plzzz?
#206 [07:25] * SushiDude [SushiDude@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#207 [07:36] <auscompgeek> ...what?
#208 [07:36] <auscompgeek> weirdest question ever right there
#209 [07:37] <auscompgeek> harrizou: make sure Java is up to date
#210 [07:44] * unitcross [unitcross@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#211 [07:49] * aikaramba [aikaramba@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#212 [08:04] * Severdez [Severdez@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#213 [08:06] * Calinou [Calinou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#214 [08:29] * Chris|Detached [Chris|Detached@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#215 [08:31] * JerkyUltimate [JerkyUltimate@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#216 [08:32] <JerkyUltimate> Help i can't login in minecraft launcher
#217 [08:35] <auscompgeek> .login
#218 [08:35] <JerkyUltimate> ?
#219 [08:35] <JerkyUltimate> I'm sure i was hacked ...
#220 [08:35] <auscompgeek> hang on
#221 [08:36] <JerkyUltimate> hang on? xD
#222 [08:37] * flabbergaster [flabbergaster@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#223 [08:38] <flabbergaster> my problem is that the game shut/closes randomly
#224 [08:39] <JerkyUltimate> my problem is i can't login in the minecraft launcher
#225 [08:44] <flabbergaster> can it be that i don´t have java 64bit
#226 [08:51] * Miner_Dave [Miner_Dave@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#227 [08:56] * westmi [westmi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#228 [09:01] * tyteen4a03 [tyteen4a03@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#229 [09:21] * Thunder7102 [Thunder7102@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#230 [09:25] * ronjn [ronjn@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#231 [09:27] * armed [armed@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#232 [09:28] * sushidude_ [sushidude_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#233 [09:30] * SushiDude [SushiDude@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#234 [09:33] * ronjn [ronjn@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#235 [09:47] * Darky [Darky@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#236 [09:47] <Darky> any 1 here?
#237 [09:47] <Darky> hey all
#238 [09:48] <Darky> i need some help
#239 [09:48] * Oerg866 [Oerg866@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#240 [09:48] <Darky> i need help please some1
#241 [09:49] <Darky> I NEED HELP !
#242 [09:50] * Morrolan [Morrolan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#243 [09:54] * Fangedgameer [Fangedgameer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#244 [09:55] <Fangedgameer> Hey is there a way to transfer a minecraft save to another computer without posting the map on a map-sharing site
#245 [09:55] * HariboPenguin [HariboPenguin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#246 [09:56] * mib_dbjp0g [mib_dbjp0g@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#247 [09:56] <mib_dbjp0g> any1 here?
#248 [09:56] <Fangedgameer> I am
#249 [09:57] <Fangedgameer> But I dont think the members are
#250 [09:57] <mib_dbjp0g> ah..
#251 [09:57] <Fangedgameer> Do you need help with something/
#252 [09:58] <mib_dbjp0g> yea, I tried buying MC over 24 hours ago, and still cant play
#253 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Sure. Copy the files, put then on a USB stick. Or email them to yourself, or transfer it over the network, or burn it on a CD...
#254 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_dbjp0g - Call your bank, make sure payment has been cleared. Make sure the bank has a record of a transaction going to Mojang AB
#255 [09:59] <Fangedgameer> Ive tried the email but it wont take the folder, it keeps accessing what inside the folder
#256 [09:59] <mib_dbjp0g> I just checked my statement
#257 [09:59] <GreyVulpine> Don't have minecraft running while you're copying the folder?
#258 [09:59] <mib_dbjp0g> hasnt gone through
#259 [09:59] <Fangedgameer> It wasnt
#260 [09:59] <GreyVulpine> mib_dbjp0g - Then it's the fault of your bank. Talk to them
#261 [09:59] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - What folder exactly, are you copying?
#262 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Have you tried zipping the folder before sending it via email?
#263 [10:00] <Fangedgameer> No
#264 [10:00] <mib_dbjp0g> well the transaction isnt even pending yet
#265 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_dbjp0g - Then the transaction was never done in the first place.
#266 [10:02] <Fangedgameer> GreyVulpine I have WinRAR, So how do I zip the folder?
#267 [10:02] <Fangedgameer> GreyVulpine I right click on the folder and there is nothing that helps me to zip it
#268 [10:02] <mib_dbjp0g> If I try again and get double charged, I wont get a refund from mojang
#269 [10:02] <GreyVulpine> Right click -> do a .rar
#270 [10:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_dbjp0g - Then file a dispute with your bank if mojang does charge you twice
#271 [10:06] <Fangedgameer> GreyVulpine What would be the easiest way to xfer a file, becuase the computer i want to xfer it off of is having problems and cant calculate just to fast
#272 [10:08] <GreyVulpine> Copy files onto USB stick?
#273 [10:08] <Fangedgameer> Dont have a USB
#274 [10:08] <Fangedgameer> Or a burnable Disc
#275 [10:08] <GreyVulpine> Burn onto a cd? Zip up and email it?
#276 [10:08] <Fangedgameer> Disk*
#277 [10:09] <Fangedgameer> Is zip up my only option?
#278 [10:09] <GreyVulpine> Unless you want to email yourself a ton of little files?
#279 [10:10] <Fangedgameer> Because when I tried that before I had to add email addresses and I dont think the computer can handle that ._.
#280 [10:10] <Fangedgameer> Do I like have to add the sender and receivers address?
#281 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> You can try emailing it to yourself?
#282 [10:12] <Fangedgameer> I will but with WinRAR i have to compress and send, and when I do that I have to add my email address and I was wondering if i had to add the receivers address too, because when i tried to send it without adding the receivers address [ before-hand ] it told me that no other emails are avaliable
#283 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> Just compress it, and add it manually as an attachment to your email?
#284 [10:13] <Fangedgameer> Ill try
#285 [10:18] <Fangedgameer> It says that it cannot email cause there is no istalled emailing program?
#286 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> Then don't email through winrar
#287 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> Try a web email provider, like hotmail, or yahoo, or gmail
#288 [10:20] <Fangedgameer> But how do I get the file inside if i dont use winrar
#289 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> Almost all email clients can add a file as an attachment
#290 [10:20] <Fangedgameer> a file
#291 [10:20] * Hisui_ [Hisui_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#292 [10:20] <Fangedgameer> But not a folder?
#293 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> Right
#294 [10:21] <Fangedgameer> That doesnt help
#295 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> Hence why I suggested to zip it
#296 [10:22] <Fangedgameer> But I have winrar..
#297 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> Then rar it. Or use a compression format of your choice
#298 [10:23] <Fangedgameer> But if i .rar it it instantly takes me to the same problem where it doesnt find a email program and I dont know of anyother compressing formats
#299 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> Don't select "Compress and email
#300 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> Select "Compress as file"
#301 [10:24] <Fangedgameer> Wait just a little off topic question... If i clear my cache will it remove things that slow my computer down, or affect it harmfully?
#302 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> Somewhat, and no.
#303 [10:25] <Fangedgameer> So its basically useless to clear the cache
#304 [10:25] <Fangedgameer> For speed reason
#305 [10:25] <Fangedgameer> s*
#306 [10:26] * Tonux [Tonux@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#307 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> It does minimal improvement
#308 [10:27] <Fangedgameer> What would help me with the slowness?
#309 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> Not running multiple programs that aren't needed, running defragmentation or error checking on your hard drives, buying more RAM, updating computer components, updating the computer itself....
#310 [10:31] <Fangedgameer> I see
#311 [10:32] <Fangedgameer> What if
#312 [10:32] <Fangedgameer> I sweep the hard drive
#313 [10:32] * GangstaGroup [GangstaGroup@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#314 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> Depends on what you mean by "Sweep the hard drive"
#315 [10:34] <Fangedgameer> Clear it
#316 [10:34] <Fangedgameer> Of everything
#317 [10:34] <GangstaGroup> Hello why does my minecraft on singleplayer freezes and runs than again freezer its like something
#318 [10:34] <GangstaGroup> cutting or liek that
#319 [10:35] <GangstaGroup> its like lagging
#320 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> GangstaGroup - Could be normal, your computer's just generating new chunks nearby. or it could be graphical/cpu lag. Your computer may not be powerful enough to run minecraft smoothly
#321 [10:36] <GangstaGroup> i have GeForce 7300LE 2,5GB Ram and Windows 7 i have Intel Pentium 4 HT
#322 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> What other programs are you running in the background? Any security software doing its stuff? How much RAM do you have free? minecraft allocates up to a gig of RAM for itself
#323 [10:37] <GangstaGroup> i have just new windows 7 installed on my pc
#324 [10:38] <GangstaGroup> i think i have free 1640MB ram
#325 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> Have you ran windows update? Got all the latest service packs? Got all the latest windows updates/hotfixes? How about driver updates?
#326 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> Have you looked into updating your video drivers? What version of java are you running?
#327 [10:38] <GangstaGroup> i think the 32bit java
#328 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> Java 7's been known to lag, while 6 does not
#329 [10:39] <GangstaGroup> i had windows xp on this computer and the Minecraft run perfectly
#330 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> Check what version of java you have installed
#331 [10:40] * Smarag [Smarag@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#332 [10:40] <GangstaGroup> 1.7.0_01
#333 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> That would be why
#334 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall 1.7, install java 6 instead
#335 [10:40] <GangstaGroup> so i need Java 6 ?
#336 [10:40] <GangstaGroup> ok i will try thank you for the help
#337 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> As I said, java 7's been known to do this
#338 [10:43] * Fangedganeer [Fangedganeer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#339 [10:43] <Fangedganeer> GreyVulpine On what you said about Java 6, is the download for that specified as Version 6 Update 30?
#340 [10:44] * Murry1 [Murry1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#341 [10:44] <Murry1> my minecraft launcher wont work
#342 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Yes
#343 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> Murry1 - And why not?
#344 [10:45] <Murry1> ive double clicked it about 50 times and it wont start
#345 [10:45] <GreyVulpine> Murry1 - What operating system?
#346 [10:45] <Murry1> Windows 7 Starter
#347 [10:45] <GreyVulpine> Do you have java installed?
#348 [10:45] <Murry1> yes
#349 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> Check by going to: javatester.org/version.html
#350 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> Also, how much RAM do you have?
#351 [10:46] <Murry1> 1gb
#352 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> That might be why. Too little RAM
#353 [10:46] <Murry1> it worked 30minutes ago
#354 [10:47] <Fangedganeer> GreyVulpine I've compressed the save with winrar and it seems to have worked thanks for the help
#355 [10:47] <Fangedganeer> I sent it on yahoo
#356 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing Fangedganeer.
#357 [10:48] <Murry1> it worked fine 30mins ago
#358 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> Murry1 - Try a reboot
#359 [10:48] <Murry1> oh i remember now i jst did an update of internet explorer
#360 [10:48] * Fangedgameer [Fangedgameer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#361 [10:49] <Murry1> thanks for help
#362 [10:49] <Fangedgameer> GreyVulpine Also i have 4GB RAM and my minecraft is laggy, could the JavaV6U30 Actually be the problem [Which i have now downloaded]
#363 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> Lag could be other reasons as well, an outdated or integrated graphics card is a frequent cause.
#364 [10:51] <Fangedgameer> How do I check my card? Do I go to System Properties?
#365 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#366 [10:52] <Fangedgameer> This is what it says
#367 [10:53] <Fangedgameer> Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20GHz 2.20 GHz
#368 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> Head to your Device manager, look for display adapter
#369 [10:54] * SimenOlai [SimenOlai@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#370 [10:54] * VoxelHead kicked SimenOlai from #minecrafthelp (Reason: imenOlai :Banned: Ban evasion, spamming)
#371 [10:55] * Minecraft [Minecraft@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#372 [10:55] <Fangedgameer> Ok found it
#373 [10:56] * Blacker47 [Blacker47@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#374 [10:57] <Fangedgameer> GreyVulpine Under the Display adapter it says Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
#375 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> That would be why then. It's an integrated graphics card on a laptop
#376 [10:58] <Fangedgameer> So I have to buy a new computer
#377 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> You can try decreasing some of the video settings in minecraft to see if it'll lag less
#378 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - If you want to improve performance on minecraft, yes.
#379 [10:59] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#380 [10:59] <Fangedgameer> They are at their worst except Render is short
#381 [10:59] <Fangedgameer> So
#382 [10:59] <Fangedgameer> Thanks
#383 [10:59] <Fangedgameer> Later GreyVulpine
#384 [11:12] * |Kiichan|Schala| [|Kiichan|Schala|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#385 [11:18] * |Kiikun|Janus| [|Kiikun|Janus|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#386 [11:23] * GangstaGroup [GangstaGroup@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#387 [11:23] * LayneObserdia [LayneObserdia@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#388 [11:23] <GangstaGroup> Hello i uninstalled java 7 and installed java 6 the game is lagging on fullscreen when its on small screen original it dosent lag
#389 [11:25] <GangstaGroup> i need your help
#390 [11:30] * Nathandorricott [Nathandorricott@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#391 [11:31] <Nathandorricott> hello, i really need help.
#392 [11:32] <Nathandorricott> im getting hs_err_pid.. And ive tried everything but it wont go. if anyone can solve this for me i'd be very grateful.
#393 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> Nathandorricott - Could you share the contents of that hs_err_pid file to pastebin.com and give us the URL?
#394 [11:43] <Nathandorricott> yeah, hang on.
#395 [11:45] <Nathandorricott> http://pastebin.com/EwuM38MW
#396 [11:45] <Nathandorricott> there
#397 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a dxdiag?
#398 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#399 [11:45] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#400 [11:45] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#401 [11:46] <Nathandorricott> okay
#402 [11:48] <Nathandorricott> ihttp://pastebin.com/CrLKxYb6
#403 [11:49] <Nathandorricott> also, at the bottom of the dxdiag, it gives the option to do it in 64bit, does that matter?
#404 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> Frigging Toshiba c660 laptops
#405 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> It does not
#406 [11:49] <Nathandorricott> it does not what?
#407 [11:49] <Nathandorricott> oh
#408 [11:49] <Nathandorricott> i get you
#409 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> The solution for you: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
#410 [11:50] <Nathandorricott> okay, thankyou. Means alot, struggled with this problem for ages. Hopefully will work.
#411 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> You're not the first one with this issue, we first diagnosed it 6-7 months ago
#412 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> I've probably clocked in a couple dozen people with the exact same issue as what you're experiencing now, with the toshiba c660
#413 [11:52] <Nathandorricott> yeah, ive looked all over. Toshiba sound fair terrible from what i've read.
#414 [11:53] * Infam0usV [Infam0usV@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#415 [12:01] * Nathandorricott [Nathandorricott@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#416 [12:01] <Nathandorricott> Grey, its worked, thanks a million. Had the problem for ages, you really are a life saver!
#417 [12:02] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#417 [12:02] * ihaveseverelaghelpme [ihaveseverelaghelpme@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#418 [12:04] <Nathandorricott> <3
#419 [12:04] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> i have severe lag help me
#420 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> ihaveseverelaghelpme - Has it always lagged?
#421 [12:04] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> no
#422 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? Windows? MacOS? Linux? AmigaOS?
#423 [12:05] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> windows
#424 [12:05] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> i dont have opengl
#425 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> When was the last time it didn't lag?
#426 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean you don't have OpenGL?
#427 [12:05] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> advanced opengl is not on my graphoics card
#428 [12:06] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> the best fps i got was 24fps
#429 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> Okay?
#430 [12:06] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> thats the best ive EVER GOT
#431 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> Then your computer may be too old to handle minecraft properly.
#432 [12:06] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> its new
#433 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> What kind of computer is it?
#434 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> Desktop? Laptop? netbook? tablet?
#435 [12:07] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> Acer Aspire one 1.66ghz,512kb cache 1gb ddr3 memory
#436 [12:07] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> netbook
#437 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that would be why. Netbooks are not made for gaming, and minecraft is actually a very demanding game
#438 [12:07] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> it runs pretty fine on it but i get really bad lag now and then
#439 [12:08] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> is there anything that can help it
#440 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> Not on your netbook, no
#441 [12:08] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> what about gamebooster
#442 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> Very much doubt it
#443 [12:08] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> or should i clean the pc with ccleaner
#444 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> The issue isn't that your computer is clogged up with files, or that the registry is filled with junk. It's your computer that is not powerful enough to run minecraft smoothly
#445 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> There's nothing you can do with a netbook that'll improve performance on that.
#446 [12:09] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> it runs fine but i get lag every now and then
#447 [12:11] * ihaveseverelaghelpme [ihaveseverelaghelpme@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#448 [12:12] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> i forgot to say i doesnt lag on multiplayer
#449 [12:13] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> it only lags on singleplayer i get 25fps+ on smp
#450 [12:14] * Adam [Adam@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#451 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> With multiplayer, some of the processing power is already done by the server, not your client
#452 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Not surprised.
#453 [12:14] <Adam> Hello, I am having a small bit of a problem when playing on my friend's server
#454 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Adam - What problem would that be?
#455 [12:15] * m4xiiii [m4xiiii@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#456 [12:15] <Adam> When I play, entire masses of the map vanish
#457 [12:15] <Adam> as if the entire area was tunneled into the void
#458 [12:15] * Calinou_ [Calinou_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#459 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Could be that your friend's internet connection can't handle the upload bandwidth of running a mc server.
#460 [12:15] <Adam> He sees it fine
#461 [12:15] <Adam> But I cannor
#462 [12:15] <Adam> Cannot*
#463 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> He's most likely playing on the computer that's hosting it from. You're not
#464 [12:16] <m4xiiii> how long i must wait 4 update to premium i buy the game today @ 14-15
#465 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> m4xiiii - It can usually take a few hours
#466 [12:16] <m4xiiii> k thx
#467 [12:16] * Pulec [Pulec@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#468 [12:17] <Adam> Ah. so the only way to fix that problem would be to go near his internet sever? I have three bars and he has five, maybe the internet lag is causing it
#469 [12:17] <Adam> It just never happened before
#470 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> Adam - Try other servers, if you see the same thing, it's you. If not, it's his server
#471 [12:19] <Adam> right, Thank you!
#472 [12:20] * mib_tg99fp [mib_tg99fp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#473 [12:23] <mib_tg99fp> um my minecraft always gives me a black screen people are saying that i had to delete my bin file for it too go away but that didnt help
#474 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> mib_tg99fp - Have you been able to play minecraft before?
#475 [12:24] <mib_tg99fp> well not on this computer
#476 [12:24] <mib_tg99fp> i have it onn my other desktop
#477 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> Have you made sure you're running the latest java 6 on that computer, as well as checking to see if your video drivers are up to date?
#478 [12:25] <mib_tg99fp> im pretty sure i already tried to update java but i cant really remember if i did and im just finishing updating my video driver
#479 [12:25] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> how do you update your driver
#480 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> ihaveseverelaghelpme - Figure out what video card you have, download from the video manufacturer's website
#481 [12:26] <mib_tg99fp> i went to driverupdate.net and they gave me a download
#482 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. don't do that
#483 [12:26] <mib_tg99fp> oh sorry
#484 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> It's frequently wrong and out of date.
#485 [12:26] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#486 [12:27] <mib_tg99fp> then h ow should i update my video drivers
#487 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> I assume you're running a windows machine?
#488 [12:27] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> greyvulpine please look at this http://imgur.com/a/Kn9kV
#489 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> ihaveseverelaghelpme - Again. There's nothing I can do for you here.
#490 [12:28] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> but look
#491 [12:28] <mib_tg99fp> yes i am windows xp
#492 [12:28] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> i just want to show you
#493 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> ihaveseverelaghelpme - I am looking
#494 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> mib_tg99fp - Give us a dxdiag
#495 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_tg99fp win/dxdig
#496 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_tg99fp win/dxdiag
#497 [12:29] <VoxelHead> mib_tg99fp: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#498 [12:29] <VoxelHead> mib_tg99fp: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#499 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> mib_tg99fp - Follow VoxelHead's instructions, please.
#500 [12:29] <mib_tg99fp> thanks so much and i will
#501 [12:31] * Daeross [Daeross@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#502 [12:33] <mib_tg99fp> wahts an irc channel?
#503 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> You're in one
#504 [12:35] <Daeross> Hi and Happy New Year! I would like to ask you: when I try to connect to any multiplayer server, it says, that "Connection timed out: connect". But in the past I used to play these servers without any problem.
#505 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> Daeross - Could be that those particular servers are down
#506 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> Daeross - See if you can connect to mc.minecraftirc.net
#507 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> If you can, it's not you. It's those servers that are down
#508 [12:36] <Daeross> I had also that idea, so I tried a variety of other servers, but it was all the same result..
#509 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> Could you try mc.minecraftirc.net?
#510 [12:36] <Daeross> I'll try!
#511 [12:37] <Daeross> No, I can't..
#512 [12:37] <Daeross> So it's me
#513 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> That would be you then, yes.
#514 [12:37] * LucioMaximo [LucioMaximo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#515 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> Check your security software, check your firewall. Something's blocking minecraft from connecting
#516 [12:38] <LucioMaximo> hello... anybody seen this before? http://imgur.com/5RLnN
#517 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> What in the blazes..
#518 [12:38] <Daeross> Ok, I'll do that, thanks..avast! is sometimes causing problems like this.
#519 [12:38] <tyteen4a03> LucioMaximo: Yes, I have seen this
#520 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> Daeross - Many antivirus packages can cause issues like this.
#521 [12:39] <tyteen4a03> LucioMaximo: mostly the cause is broken chunks
#522 [12:39] <LucioMaximo> and do you know of a possible cure/alement?
#523 [12:39] <tyteen4a03> LucioMaximo: uh, I will need to check with my friend, hang on
#524 [12:39] <LucioMaximo> np buddy
#525 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> LucioMaximo: sorry, he had no idea
#526 [12:41] <LucioMaximo> :(
#527 [12:41] <LucioMaximo> ty anyway
#528 [12:41] <tyteen4a03> LucioMaximo: The last time I saw it it was on classic, after conversion of map format for a custom server
#529 [12:41] <tyteen4a03> the blocks were malformed
#530 [12:42] <LucioMaximo> hmm
#531 [12:42] <LucioMaximo> likely to be a mod that has done this?
#532 [12:42] <tyteen4a03> LucioMaximo: could be, but I am not really positive on this
#533 [12:42] <LucioMaximo> k
#534 [12:42] <LucioMaximo> thanks
#535 [12:42] * mib_ve7o2g [mib_ve7o2g@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#536 [12:43] <LucioMaximo> odd... works fine with MC edit
#537 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> LucioMaximo: this sounds like a long-lasting bug, but since it's rare not everybody knows about this
#538 [12:44] <LucioMaximo> but not with a new jar force update
#539 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> could be a mod then
#540 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> it happened twice in classic
#541 [12:44] <LucioMaximo> I just removed all my mods
#542 [12:44] <LucioMaximo> sec
#543 [12:45] <LucioMaximo> yep still buggy without mods
#544 [12:45] <LucioMaximo> hmm
#545 [12:46] <tyteen4a03> LucioMaximo: the damage could be unrecoverable, or it's a rare display problem
#546 [12:46] <LucioMaximo> :(
#547 [12:46] <tyteen4a03> when did this happen?
#548 [12:46] <LucioMaximo> just now
#549 [12:47] <LucioMaximo> I saw on the MC forums the post about making a part of your map a 3d print
#550 [12:47] <tyteen4a03> if the process does not involve modifiying the map or minecraft, it should be fine
#551 [12:48] <LucioMaximo> (on the frontpage) downloaded.. and when i went to load up minecraft to see it was like that
#552 [12:48] <LucioMaximo> all it does is provide an overview
#553 [12:48] <tyteen4a03> try making another world and do that 3d paint thing again
#554 [12:48] * pheleas_frog [pheleas_frog@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#555 [12:49] <pheleas_frog> My son purchased minecraft without my permission. I would like a refund.
#556 [12:49] * sprocket [sprocket@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#557 [12:49] <LucioMaximo> dude thats billing
#558 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> pheleas_frog - Talk to your financial instituation. File a dispute or a chargeback
#559 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> pheleas_frog: we respect your decision, but you should try out minecraft before making a refund :)
#560 [12:51] <tyteen4a03> meh
#561 [12:51] <LucioMaximo> hmm it had no effect on the map
#562 [12:51] <LucioMaximo> only past mod I had between it f'ing up was aether
#563 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> Try MCedit's fix chunks function.
#564 [12:53] * haloo [haloo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#565 [12:54] <haloo> hello all i have problem lunching minecraft :(
#566 [12:54] <tyteen4a03> haloo: Yes?
#567 [12:54] <tyteen4a03> haloo: What happens when you try?
#568 [12:54] <haloo> i will show u on pastebin
#569 [12:54] <haloo> Bad video card drivers!
#570 [12:55] <tyteen4a03> ??> haloo win/dxdiag
#571 [12:55] <VoxelHead> haloo: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#572 [12:55] <VoxelHead> haloo: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#573 [12:56] <haloo> dxdiag = http://pastebin.com/m8Mz8wUb
#574 [12:57] <tyteen4a03> ok
#575 [12:57] <haloo> minecraft error = http://pastebin.com/1ZNVMFfS
#576 [12:57] <tyteen4a03> haloo: hang on
#577 [12:57] <haloo> no problem
#578 [12:58] <tyteen4a03> haloo: Please download this driver: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=2102&DwnldID=16835&ProductFamily=Internet+Devices&ProductLine=Entry+Level+Desktop+PC&ProductProduct=Intel%c2%ae+82945G+Express+Chipset&lang=eng
#579 [12:59] <tyteen4a03> haloo: Older Intel integrated display cards are known to have problems with Minecraft and any other games that require OpenGL, so there's a high chance you can't play Minecraft using the launcher
#580 [12:59] <haloo> i think i already installed that one
#581 [12:59] <haloo> i will try now again
#582 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> haloo: if you are positive that you have installed the driver, then minecraft won't work on your computer
#583 [13:01] <haloo> that mean ?
#584 [13:01] <haloo> i cant play minecraft?
#585 [13:01] <tyteen4a03> haloo: No, you will not be able to play Minecraft, at least through the standalone launcher
#586 [13:01] <haloo> i need restart
#587 [13:01] * ronjn___ [ronjn___@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#588 [13:01] <haloo> i will be back
#589 [13:04] * MuumiJumala [MuumiJumala@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#590 [13:05] * Kurimus [Kurimus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#591 [13:06] * haloo [haloo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#592 [13:06] <haloo> hello again
#593 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> hi
#594 [13:06] <haloo> i have same error
#595 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> yes, that would mean that minecraft won't work for you
#596 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> haloo: you can however try playing through minecraft.net/play
#597 [13:06] <haloo> i buy the game
#598 [13:07] <haloo> u mean playfrom the site?
#599 [13:09] <tyteen4a03> haloo: Yes, you should be able to
#600 [13:10] <LucioMaximo> greyvulpine where is the Fix Chunks function on MCedit? I swear I have looked everywhere :P
#601 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> LucioMaximo - Hold down ctrl. It'll be in one of the menus there. I believe... map info?
#602 [13:10] <LucioMaximo> repair regions?
#603 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> That'll be it
#604 [13:11] <LucioMaximo> cheers bud.. i'll see if it works
#605 [13:12] <LucioMaximo> didn't work :(
#606 [13:13] <tyteen4a03> LucioMaximo: that could mean that the chunks are damaged forever
#607 [13:13] <tyteen4a03> LucioMaximo: do you mind throwing up this issue on Minecraft's bug tracker? I believe the bug existed since classic
#608 [13:14] <LucioMaximo> bug tracker?
#609 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> http://goo.gl/GZWrJ
#610 [13:16] <LucioMaximo> okay posted :)
#611 [13:18] <tyteen4a03> thanks :)
#612 [13:19] * jarrs001 [jarrs001@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#613 [13:20] * Rehevkor [Rehevkor@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#614 [13:20] <jarrs001> When i open the offline minecraft i can play for about 10 seconds before it closes the tab i have tried deleting the bin folder in .minecraft and i have tried re installing it
#615 [13:21] <tyteen4a03> jarrs001: You are using Minecraft.exe to open it, right?
#616 [13:21] <jarrs001> yes
#617 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> jarrs001: has it happend before?
#618 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> *happened
#619 [13:25] <jarrs001> yes for about 2 weeks now
#620 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> jarrs001: Have you ever done a force update?
#621 [13:26] <jarrs001> yea oncesand its versoin 1.0 now
#622 [13:26] * wannabemac [wannabemac@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#623 [13:27] * Israfel_ [Israfel_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#624 [13:31] * Valerie [Valerie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#625 [13:31] * JohnEBH [JohnEBH@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#626 [13:33] <hmw> jarrs001: Perhaps your Java version is too old. What version do you have? Check at http://javatester.org/version.html - you should have Sun's Java 1.6.0_30 or so. Get newest version at http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp
#627 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> jarrs001: Sorry, I was kinda AFK. Maybe hmw can carry on with your issue
#628 [13:39] <jarrs001> i have jave version 1.6.0_22 and it said if jave is working you will have a pink rectangle and i did
#629 [13:39] <tyteen4a03> jarrs001: The newest version is 1.6.0_30, although it wouldn't matter much, but it is still recommended that you update
#630 [13:39] <tyteen4a03> jarrs001: I will pass you to hmw, is that ok?
#631 [13:40] <hmw> _22 is somewhat old, if you're lucky, updating will solve the problem
#632 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> hmw: I think java does not bring any changes that will break programs within updates
#633 [13:40] <hmw> Alright
#634 [13:41] <jarrs001> ill try
#635 [13:44] <jarrs001> i tried downloaing it i clicked agee and download then clicked run then it said do you want to install i said yes then i said 0 secs left then nothing came up and im still on the old java version
#636 [13:44] <hmw> uhm...
#637 [13:45] * Calinou [Calinou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#638 [13:47] <hmw> ??> win/dxdiag jarrs001
#639 [13:47] <hmw> ??> jarrs001 win/dxdiag
#640 [13:47] <VoxelHead> jarrs001: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#641 [13:47] <VoxelHead> jarrs001: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#642 [13:47] * jarrs001 [jarrs001@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#643 [13:47] <hmw> ??> jarrs001 win/dxdiag
#644 [13:47] <VoxelHead> jarrs001: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#645 [13:48] <VoxelHead> jarrs001: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#646 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> [02:47] <hmw> ??> win/dxdiag jarrs001
#647 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> I used to make that mistake :P
#648 [13:48] <hmw> i am mixing it up quite often... should get used to this order by now
#649 [13:50] * keret [keret@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#650 [13:50] <jarrs001> whick link do i copy
#651 [13:50] <jarrs001> which
#652 [13:51] <hmw> the resulting http://www.pastebin... one
#653 [13:51] <keret> I bout the game like 5 times and it is not letting me play
#654 [13:51] * bletch [bletch@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#655 [13:51] <hmw> keret: can you log in to minecraft.net?
#656 [13:51] <jarrs001> do i copy it into this chat?
#657 [13:52] <hmw> jarrs001: yes
#658 [13:52] <jarrs001> http://pastebin.com/uWHLNaAa
#659 [13:52] <keret> yes
#660 [13:52] <jarrs001> there you goo
#661 [13:53] <keret> ime in it
#662 [13:53] <jarrs001> in what minecraft?
#663 [13:55] <hmw> jarrs001: does your Windows user name contain an exclamation mark? You see your name on top of the start menu.
#664 [13:55] * MarMigs [MarMigs@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#665 [13:55] <jarrs001> no
#666 [13:56] <keret> i have payed my monay to mine craft like 5 times and it is stell not letting me play
#667 [13:58] <hmw> Hm. I guess, we should focus on that Java update first. Perhaps you just try again. Just to be sure, use the manual download at http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp and download the "Windows OFfline" version.
#668 [13:58] <hmw> !paid keret
#669 [13:58] <hmw> keret: what is your Minecraft name?
#670 [13:58] <keret> Churroman007
#671 [13:58] <hmw> okay, let's see
#672 [13:59] <hmw> !padi churroman007
#673 [13:59] <hmw> !paid churroman007
#674 [13:59] <hmw> keret: when did you buy it?
#675 [13:59] <keret> i did it said purchus complet
#676 [13:59] <hmw> keret: where did you buy it?
#677 [13:59] * olly [olly@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#678 [14:00] <keret> today
#679 [14:00] <hmw> keret: I guess you used a credit card?
#680 [14:00] <keret> yes
#681 [14:01] <keret> i bout it on mine craft .com
#682 [14:01] <olly> Hey I wondered if any of you guys could help I've got the free minecraft and I tried to log on and it says not downloaded what do I do
#683 [14:02] <jarrs001> i tried downloading the maual java and the same thing happened no setup or anythingm
#684 [14:02] <hmw> weird
#685 [14:03] <hmw> where does it show, if an account is premium on the minecraft site?? argh
#686 [14:03] <hmw> aha.
#687 [14:03] <tyteen4a03> hmw: !paid
#688 [14:03] <tyteen4a03> olly: You need to pay to play Minecraft. The free version of Minecraft, which is classic, does not offer standalone launchers
#689 [14:04] <hmw> ??> payment keret
#690 [14:04] <hmw> ??> keret payment
#691 [14:04] <VoxelHead> keret: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#692 [14:04] <VoxelHead> keret: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#693 [14:04] <keret> ok
#694 [14:05] <hmw> jarrs001: did you actually save the file or did you directly "run" it?
#695 [14:05] <jarrs001> saved it but it comes on an a mozzila thingy then double clicked it then run
#696 [14:06] <hmw> should work anyways. I have no idea,why the program wouldn't work...
#697 [14:06] <hmw> jarrs001: you're saying, that the Java install program appears, but simply fails to work?
#698 [14:06] <jarrs001> ok dont worry then but thank you for your help :) i have dinner i might be on after
#699 [14:06] <jarrs001> no i click it
#700 [14:06] * Guard_Is_A_Bitch [Guard_Is_A_Bitch@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#701 [14:06] <jarrs001> then it goes 0 secs remaining then
#702 [14:07] <jarrs001> it stays as old version
#703 [14:07] * SinZ [SinZ@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#704 [14:07] <tyteen4a03> Guard_Is_A_Bitch: Please change your nickname.
#705 [14:08] <Guard_Is_A_Bitch> Aww, but why?
#706 [14:08] <SinZ> guess...
#707 [14:08] <hmw> jarrs001: perhaps your user account is not an administrator?
#708 [14:08] <jarrs001> no it not
#709 [14:08] <Guard_Is_A_Bitch> I can't! Tell me. :D
#710 [14:08] <SinZ> rude name
#711 [14:08] <jarrs001> do you need to be an admin?
#712 [14:08] <hmw> jarrs001: That might be the cause. Switch to the administrator account
#713 [14:08] <Guard_Is_A_Bitch> It isn't that rude.
#714 [14:09] <Guard_Is_A_Bitch> If I changed it to "Satan_s_slave" would it be rude?
#715 [14:09] <SinZ> shouldnt need admin for minecraft
#716 [14:09] <jarrs001> ok i will get dad up after diner thanks for the help though :)
#717 [14:09] <jarrs001> yes
#718 [14:09] <hmw> jarrs001: perhaps you get your dad into this chat
#719 [14:09] <jarrs001> Cant hes not home hes on way home soz
#720 [14:09] <hmw> the chat will not vanish until then
#721 [14:09] <jarrs001> i got dinner now will be back after
#722 [14:10] <hmw> cu
#723 [14:10] <jarrs001> bb
#724 [14:10] <tyteen4a03> Guard_Is_A_Bitch: profanity is generally not allowed here.
#725 [14:11] <Guard_Is_A_Bitch> Which rule is it, remind me again?
#726 [14:12] <tyteen4a03> http://minecraftirc.net/thread-2.html
#727 [14:12] <Guard_Is_A_Bitch> I ask again, which rule is it?
#728 [14:14] <tyteen4a03> You can say 0. Be excellent to each other. or 3. Keep it civil or whatever works
#729 [14:15] <Guard_Is_A_Bitch> >this is not an action movie. Additionally, any excessive use of memes or inside jokes is forbidden.
#730 [14:15] <Guard_Is_A_Bitch> Suddenly, the word "bitch" is used to make action movies.
#731 [14:16] <tyteen4a03> well, I am no expert on english
#732 [14:16] <hmw> tyteen4a03: don't feed the troll
#733 [14:16] * TrueWolves [TrueWolves@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#734 [14:16] <Guard_Is_A_Bitch> Neither am I.
#735 [14:16] <tyteen4a03> hmw: they are sometimes fun to feed
#736 [14:17] * drago [drago@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#737 [14:18] * J0rd4n [J0rd4n@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#738 [14:18] <drago> i need help installing downloads. how do i install them. i already downloaded but they wont work. help?
#739 [14:19] <hmw> drago: What operating system do you use?
#740 [14:19] <drago> mac os x
#741 [14:20] * TrueWolves kicked Guard_Is_A_Bitch from #minecrafthelp (Reason: uard_Is_A_Bitch :Guard_Is_A_Bitch)
#742 [14:20] * Guard_Is_A_Bitch [Guard_Is_A_Bitch@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#743 [14:20] <hmw> Are you trying to play the Classic version of Minecraft, or did you buy the game?
#744 [14:20] * VoxelHead kicked Guard_Is_A_Bitch from #minecrafthelp (Reason: uard_Is_A_Bitch :Banned)
#745 [14:20] <drago> i bought it
#746 [14:20] <tyteen4a03> TrueWolves: thank you
#747 [14:20] <hmw> drago: what is your minecraft name?
#748 [14:20] * vasil7112 [vasil7112@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#749 [14:21] <drago> Draco_is_a_G
#750 [14:21] <hmw> !paid Draco_is_a_G
#751 [14:21] <vasil7112> is there anyone who can help me?
#752 [14:21] <vasil7112> having problem
#753 [14:21] <tyteen4a03> vasil7112: Yes?
#754 [14:21] <hmw> ?? ask
#755 [14:21] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#756 [14:21] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#757 [14:21] <drago> so now they work or what?
#758 [14:21] <tyteen4a03> hmw: this happens
#759 [14:22] <hmw> drago: You should download the Minecraft.jar from minecraft.net to a folder on your hard disk, then double click it. What exactly is going wrong?
#760 [14:22] * think [think@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#761 [14:23] <hmw> drago: I just checked, if Minecraft.net already knows, that you have paid
#762 [14:24] <drago> i downloaded a texture pack and a mod but neither is working. i tried moving them to my apllications folder but they still wont work
#763 [14:26] <hmw> drago: Does the game work without any mod installed?
#764 [14:26] * Morrolan [Morrolan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#765 [14:26] <hmw> ??> drago mac/reinst
#766 [14:26] <VoxelHead> drago: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#767 [14:26] <VoxelHead> drago: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#768 [14:27] <drago> ya and i cant find the minecraft.jar download link at minecraft.net
#769 [14:27] <hmw> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#770 [14:28] <hmw> drago: you might have to log in before getting the download
#771 [14:31] <drago> should the download be minecraft_server.jar or just minecraft.jar
#772 [14:33] <drago> hmw:all i can find is minecraft_server.jar
#773 [14:34] <hmw> drago: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#774 [14:35] * reedlepee [reedlepee@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#775 [14:36] <reedlepee> I have a paid version of minecraft and running 1.0.0 and I want to play on 1.7.3, how do i do this
#776 [14:36] <hmw> reedlepee: There is no archive of older versions
#777 [14:37] <Morrolan> You will have to use an unofficial tool like MCNostalgia , reedlepee.
#778 [14:37] <hmw> reedlepee: make them update their server
#779 [14:37] <TrueWolves> Voxelhead sniped my ban
#780 [14:37] <hmw> or that.
#781 [14:37] <TrueWolves> ._.
#782 [14:37] <Morrolan> Since, as hmw said, there is no official archive.
#783 [14:38] <Morrolan> If it has to be permanent just set it through Vox then I guess. :)
#784 [14:38] <hmw> heheh... he's not wasting a single byte
#785 [14:38] <Morrolan> Indeed. ;)
#786 [14:38] <drago> hmw:okay it's downloaded
#787 [14:38] <hmw> ??> drago mac/reinst
#788 [14:38] <VoxelHead> drago: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#789 [14:38] <VoxelHead> drago: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#790 [14:38] * su [su@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#791 [14:39] * blakeman1 [blakeman1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#792 [14:39] <blakeman1> hello!
#793 [14:39] <hmw> hi
#794 [14:39] <hmw> ?? ask
#795 [14:39] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#796 [14:39] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#797 [14:40] <blakeman1> hmw whats wrong?
#798 [14:40] <hmw> heheh - i want to know
#799 [14:40] <blakeman1> what?
#800 [14:41] <hmw> people coming here saying "Hi" often need ages, before they dare to ask their question
#801 [14:41] <blakeman1> do u need help?
#802 [14:41] <blakeman1> or not?
#803 [14:42] <blakeman1> guess not
#804 [14:43] <tyteen4a03> hmw: they will eventually say hi
#805 [14:43] <hmw> nah... I was just guessing, the 1 at the end of your name made you look like someone, who doesn't log in to IRC regularly
#806 [14:44] <hmw> i thought YOU were about to ask something
#807 [14:44] <tyteen4a03> 99% of the people who uses mibbit come here for help
#808 [14:44] * quiggle [quiggle@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#809 [14:44] <hmw> tyteen4a03: that's why I sent him the factoid
#810 [14:45] <quiggle> what should i download to help the game run faster(adobe flashplayer, etc...)
#811 [14:45] <blakeman1> nothing
#812 [14:45] <blakeman1> optfine
#813 [14:45] <quiggle> so if the game runs slowly i just play slowly?
#814 [14:46] <tyteen4a03> ??> quiggle win/dxdiag
#815 [14:46] <VoxelHead> quiggle: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#816 [14:46] <blakeman1> well you can mess around with the video settings
#817 [14:46] <VoxelHead> quiggle: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#818 [14:46] <blakeman1> thanks tyteen
#819 [14:46] <hmw> quiggle: If you're lucky, updating your GPU drivers might help, reduce graphic settings and there is a mod, that might help, called "optifine"
#820 [14:46] <quiggle> ok thanks ill try it
#821 [14:48] <hmw> quiggle: Perhaps your computer is just too old OR there is something wrong. I'd like to see that dxdiag report, too.
#822 [14:49] <quiggle> no i just changed the settings on the display and it still looks good and its sooooo much faster thanks for all the help
#823 [15:08] * gerzel [gerzel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#824 [15:10] * fghrty [fghrty@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#825 [15:11] <fghrty> how do we resolve pixel format error
#826 [15:11] <hmw> fghrty: usually by updating your graphic card drivers
#827 [15:11] <fghrty> ok, willl attempt. thanks.
#828 [15:15] * Kaito [Kaito@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#829 [15:17] * mib_edr8o3 [mib_edr8o3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#830 [15:21] <mib_edr8o3> i have pressed the wrong button when i tried to install the free version. how do i start it over again?
#831 [15:21] * |Kiichan|Schala| [|Kiichan|Schala|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#832 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> mib_edr8o3: Which free version would that bE?
#833 [15:21] <mib_edr8o3> for mac
#834 [15:23] * cornelius [cornelius@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#835 [15:23] * mc13142 [mc13142@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#836 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> there is no "free version"
#837 [15:23] <mib_edr8o3> minecraft classic free vesion
#838 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> aj
#839 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> A
#840 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> Unfortunately, Classic is so sold that we don't really actively support it any longer
#841 [15:23] <hmw> Minecraft Classic has not worked on the Mac for months
#842 [15:23] <cornelius> Any one knowing if there is a problem in running the web version on mac
#843 [15:23] <mc13142> I received an email from the minecraft forums notifying me someone accept a freind request, but i went to the email link. it gave me this error. [#10267]
#844 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> cornelius: if you're talking about Classic, look up three lines (:
#845 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> mc13142: I thing you're looking for #minecraftforums
#846 [15:24] <mc13142> Aaight thank you
#847 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Hey DG, Wug and I put together a pretty neat minecart pez dispenser system.
#848 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> I saw y'all ruminating about it
#849 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> I look forward to seeing it
#850 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> out of curiosity, has it got fill/empty indicator lights? (:
#851 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Thing is, there's just nowhere to actually go to yet
#852 [15:27] <hmw> GreyVulpine: any comment on my dispenser?
#853 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> hmw - It's not bad, you should see ours.
#854 [15:27] <hmw> GreyVulpine: I will visit your server some time today
#855 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - It will have an empty indicator light, it's also got a overflow detection/management system
#856 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Pez dispenser itself has a capacity of 50+ minecarts.
#857 [15:27] <hmw> Heheh... my bigger version has overflow management, too. It pushes the cart outside of the house, where the carts will neatly stack on top of a (real) dispenser
#858 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Ours forces carts into lava. Neatly disposes of them :)
#859 [15:27] <hmw> you got too much iron, huh?
#860 [15:27] <hmw> funny idea, though
#861 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> None of this is legit, was a thought experiment gone awry
#862 [15:27] <hmw> guessed so
#863 [15:30] * mib_nevgao [mib_nevgao@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#864 [15:35] * jetLi [jetLi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#865 [15:39] <hmw> uhm... I got gagged by AuBot? Weird...
#866 [15:40] * DreadLindwyrm [DreadLindwyrm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#867 [15:41] * mib_9ypj5f [mib_9ypj5f@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#868 [15:43] * mib_ed9igt [mib_ed9igt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#869 [15:50] * Damein [Damein@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#870 [15:50] * Damein [Damein@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#871 [15:51] * Kaito [Kaito@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#872 [15:51] <Damein> hey could i get some help with putting an texturepack on my minecraft
#873 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> Step 1: download texture pack.
#874 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> Step 2: Put zip file in texturepacks directory
#875 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> Step 3: There is no Step 3
#876 [15:53] <Damein> ok so it shows up in the texture selection menu on minecraft along with the default option but i just cant click on it i can click there but it wont select it
#877 [15:53] <Damein> and it also freezes the minecraft
#878 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Is it an HD texture pack?
#879 [15:56] <Damein> ##voxelhead
#880 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> we don't support so-called HD texture packs as they're client modifications.
#881 [15:57] <Damein> how can i tell if it is an hd one its one of those realistic ones and the pixel is 256x256 pixel thingy
#882 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> that'd be how you can tell. supported textures are 16x16 IIRC
#883 [15:57] * Sigma [Sigma@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#884 [15:57] <Damein> so basicly your telling me im on my own on this one?
#885 [15:58] <hmw> Damein: this channel is for Minecraft (vanilla) support, so we will not help with mods. (Most of the time, let me give you a hint: read up on MCPatcher)
#886 [15:59] <Damein> ok thank you guys
#887 [15:59] <DreadLindwyrm> Damein: Try http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Texture_pack
#888 [15:59] * z [z@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#889 [16:06] * mib_2cz4t7 [mib_2cz4t7@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#890 [16:06] * Jammy [Jammy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#891 [16:06] <mib_2cz4t7> Anyone here offering assistance?
#892 [16:07] * Coresilent [Coresilent@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#893 [16:08] <Coresilent> Hey buddies :)
#894 [16:08] <quiggle> where is a good place to find some redstone dust??
#895 [16:08] <hmw> ??> sati ask
#896 [16:08] <VoxelHead> sati: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#897 [16:08] <VoxelHead> sati: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#898 [16:09] <hmw> quiggle: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/c/ca/PercentOfOreByHeight.png
#899 [16:09] <hmw> ji Coresilent
#900 [16:09] <hmw> *hi
#901 [16:09] <quiggle> i dont understand how to read the graph
#902 [16:09] <Coresilent> Hey MC-Community i played with a cracked version of minecraft before, because a friend told me a link to download and play the game on his server
#903 [16:10] <Coresilent> I didnt know it was cracked obviously
#904 [16:10] <Coresilent> So i wanted to play on legit servers too
#905 [16:10] * Shnawlykins [Shnawlykins@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#906 [16:10] <Coresilent> So i went on ebay and bought a "gift code"
#907 [16:10] <Coresilent> to make my account "Premium"
#908 [16:11] <DopeGhoti> ?? do/,
#909 [16:11] <VoxelHead> do/,: The Enter key is not a comma. Please don't flood the channel with many many lines of just two or three words each. Learn how to use complete sentences, and commas.
#910 [16:11] <hmw> Coresilent: YOu better not be good at touch typing in this channel *smirks*
#911 [16:11] * Understudy [Understudy@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#912 [16:11] <Coresilent> But 2 weeks ago my account lost his Premiumship
#913 [16:11] <hmw> lol ok
#914 [16:11] * zkxs [zkxs@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#915 [16:12] <hmw> Coresilent: The cracked version of your game might have allowed the cracker to steal your account
#916 [16:12] <hmw> we have heard about such cases
#917 [16:13] <Coresilent> So could it be, that he stole this "code"
#918 [16:13] <hmw> I am not certain, of course, but it seems likely to me
#919 [16:13] <Coresilent> I thought you cant delete it from an account once you typed it
#920 [16:13] <hmw> Hmm. another possibility would be, that your bank retracted the money. You should check with your bank/paypal/credit card company
#921 [16:15] <Coresilent> no its all fine with my banc transactions
#922 [16:15] <Miclee> Coresilent: You bought a gift code from ebay?
#923 [16:15] <Miclee> Most likely was a scam.
#924 [16:15] <Coresilent> yep
#925 [16:15] <Morrolan> Coresilent: *sigh*, another Ebay buyer.
#926 [16:15] <Miclee> Common thing.
#927 [16:15] <Miclee> What happened, the person who sold you the code retracted their payment to Mojang, making the code invalid.
#928 [16:15] <Miclee> Thus leaving you without an account.
#929 [16:15] <Morrolan> Most likely the seller of that giftcode revoked his payment, leading to your giftcode and therefore premium acc becoming invalid.
#930 [16:15] <hmw> Miclee: how could one loose premium status / how could one even gain it for a day, if it was a scam?
#931 [16:16] <hmw> aah question answered
#932 [16:16] <Morrolan> hmw: I buy a giftcode and sell it to you. Then I dispute my payment and bam. :)
#933 [16:16] <Coresilent> hmm thats bad
#934 [16:16] <Miclee> Common scam, it's a bit ridiculous that people fall for it.
#935 [16:16] <hmw> indeed
#936 [16:16] <Coresilent> the seller told me that he is innocent
#937 [16:16] <Miclee> NEVER buy Minecraft unless it's from minecraft.net.
#938 [16:16] <Miclee> Coresilent: And you believe them?
#939 [16:16] <Miclee> lol
#940 [16:16] <Miclee> Of course they'll say they're innocent.
#941 [16:16] <Coresilent> Someone told me the same thing before ^^
#942 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> ?? fraud
#943 [16:17] <VoxelHead> fraud: DO NOT buy Minecraft from any third parties! http://mojang.com/2011/04/26/achtung-uwaga-attention/
#944 [16:17] <Coresilent> Well this guy sells about hundreds of codes a week
#945 [16:17] <Morrolan> You could try to revoke the payment made to Ebay, but I have no clues how big your chances on doing that are.
#946 [16:17] <Miclee> Anyways, there's nothing we can really do to help you. It's your own fault for not buying from a third party.
#947 [16:18] <Morrolan> Also, reporting him to Ebay would be worth a shot.
#948 [16:18] <Coresilent> Hes one of those Top sellers
#949 [16:18] <Miclee> er
#950 [16:18] <Miclee> From buying from a third party.
#951 [16:18] <Miclee> Coresilent: Report him, then.
#952 [16:18] <Coresilent> I'll give it a try
#953 [16:18] <Coresilent> Well thanks guys
#954 [16:18] <Morrolan> Good luck. ;)
#955 [16:18] <Coresilent> So the "revoking the payment" thing is really the only way it could have lost my premíumship ?
#956 [16:19] <Coresilent> *sorry for my bad english :S*
#957 [16:19] <DreadLindwyrm> Unless the seller complained that the code had been stolen.
#958 [16:19] <Morrolan> There could have been a bug in Mojang's DB, OR a byte-bug could have eaten it but chances are slim, yea.
#959 [16:19] <Coresilent> uhm okay
#960 [16:19] <Coresilent> Well thanks anyway guys (Y)
#961 [16:19] <Coresilent> :)
#962 [16:28] * ihaveseverelaghelpme [ihaveseverelaghelpme@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#963 [16:28] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> i have fixed my lag issue
#964 [16:29] <ihaveseverelaghelpme> i have to use flatmaps to get 30fps+
#965 [16:29] * Zemedelphos [Zemedelphos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#966 [16:31] * Zemedelphos [Zemedelphos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#967 [16:33] * Zemedelphos [Zemedelphos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#968 [16:34] <quiggle> how do you turn iron ore into iron??
#969 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Furnace
#970 [16:34] <quiggle> ok thanks
#971 [16:35] <langkid1> lol
#972 [16:35] <langkid1> We all have to learn sometime!
#973 [16:35] <langkid1> :D
#974 [16:38] * maddoggg89 [maddoggg89@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#975 [16:40] <maddoggg89> I paid for mine craft and received the page that said it was successfully paid for and then nothing happened. nothing to start downloading the game or to login to play. why the wait?
#976 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> ??> maddoggg89 payment
#977 [16:40] <VoxelHead> maddoggg89: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#978 [16:40] <VoxelHead> maddoggg89: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#979 [16:41] <maddoggg89> ok, thank you
#980 [16:47] * Zemedelphos [Zemedelphos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#981 [16:56] * Calinou [Calinou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#982 [16:58] * Coll [Coll@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#983 [17:00] * Zemedelphos [Zemedelphos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#984 [17:06] * Bronco [Bronco@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#985 [17:08] <Bronco> how do i fix minecraft
#986 [17:09] <hmw> Minecraft already works and doesn't need to be fixed. Your computer is another story. What's wrong?
#987 [17:11] <Bronco> every time i try to put a mod like the too many items mod or the minecoloney mod it says minecaft crashes
#988 [17:11] * onwrd [onwrd@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#989 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#990 [17:11] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#991 [17:11] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#992 [17:11] <quiggle> is it possible to markk a specific location on a map like a house?
#993 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> signs are crafted with a six planks and one stick
#994 [17:12] <quiggle> and that will put a mark on my map?
#995 [17:12] <DreadLindwyrm> Nope.
#996 [17:12] <hmw> quiggle: no, but you can memorize the coordinates, you find in the Debug Screen (Press F3) - note: the location is x (west->east) by z (north->south)
#997 [17:13] <DreadLindwyrm> To mark something on a map you could also carve a geoglyph full of a contrasting coloured substance... It might need to be quite large though.
#998 [17:13] <quiggle> so i just memorize the coordinates then follow them every time?
#999 [17:13] * Horus [Horus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1000 [17:13] <hmw> quiggle: look into the various map plugins, some offer markers
#1001 [17:13] <hmw> quiggle: look into the various map plugins, some offer markers
#1002 [17:13] * Horus [Horus@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1003 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> or just learn how to not get lost
#1004 [17:14] <hmw> quiggle: or do it like a real Minecrafter: memorize the path *g*
#1005 [17:14] <DreadLindwyrm> Another possibility is to put a land mark there that is visible for a long way.
#1006 [17:14] <DreadLindwyrm> What are you trying to find?
#1007 [17:14] <|Kiichan|Schala|> like a giant pillar up to skybox :P
#1008 [17:15] <|Kiichan|Schala|> bonus points if its lava.
#1009 [17:15] <quiggle> im trying to put a mark for my main hideout/house but i want to go way out explorign and then make both marked so i know where they are
#1010 [17:15] <|Kiichan|Schala|> quiggle: i asume you already made a map? with the house in the center?
#1011 [17:15] <quiggle> yess
#1012 [17:15] * mib_xcd64t [mib_xcd64t@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1013 [17:16] <|Kiichan|Schala|> quiggle: the map doesnt move. your house will always be in the center of that particular map
#1014 [17:16] <quiggle> so i wouldnt need a point for my center house as you said but i would just have to memorize the other houses by surrounding land marks??
#1015 [17:17] <DreadLindwyrm> Or you can mark them with tall towers with lights on. If you are nearby you should be able to see them.
#1016 [17:17] <quiggle> ok well thanks for the help that you did give me
#1017 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> Or just learn the natural landmarks in the terrain, like actual explorers would
#1018 [17:17] * canterburyking [canterburyking@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1019 [17:17] <|Kiichan|Schala|> indeed :3
#1020 [17:18] * |Kiichan|Schala| 's house is easy to find... just look for giant structure hovering over the ocean :P
#1020 [17:19] <canterburyking> I bought the game and it said purchase complete but when i tried to download it, it would'nt work
#1021 [17:19] <DreadLindwyrm> I think my next one might have to be a towering monstrosity, possibly of obsidian...
#1022 [17:20] <DreadLindwyrm> canterburyking: What error do you get?
#1023 [17:20] <canterburyking> It just said login failed
#1024 [17:20] <canterburyking> And when i did it a second time it said user not premium
#1025 [17:20] <|Kiichan|Schala|> canterburyking: "Login Failed" means your username is incorrect, or your password doesnt match
#1026 [17:20] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ?? payment
#1027 [17:21] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1028 [17:21] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#1029 [17:21] <canterburyking> ok thank you
#1030 [17:21] * Doc [Doc@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1031 [17:21] <|Kiichan|Schala|> you should also get emails as well.
#1032 [17:22] <Doc> does anybody know what the max user name length is and what character encoding it is?
#1033 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> max is 15 or 16 characters.
#1034 [17:22] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Doc: um.... and no spaces.
#1035 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Rather, all letters and numbers, and _, nothing else
#1036 [17:23] * |Kiichan|Schala| is glad he didnt try regging NutBunnyTheConqueror then... 20 chars :P
#1036 [17:23] <Doc> yeah, is it UTF-8?
#1037 [17:23] <Doc> trying to dial in my php registration scripts
#1038 [17:24] * sheppycider123 [sheppycider123@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1039 [17:24] <|Kiikun|> ...for what? out of curiosity
#1040 [17:25] <Doc> wondering if I should use mb_strtolower or just strtolower
#1041 [17:25] <DreadLindwyrm> nah. StumpyMcStump :D
#1042 [17:25] <Doc> right now I am testing if a user has joined by checking the presence of WorldName/players/UserName.dat
#1043 [17:26] <Doc> but that means they have to login and logout once
#1044 [17:26] <Doc> if I check for minecraft/plugins/Essentials/userdata/username.yml they dont have to logout
#1045 [17:27] <sheppycider123> Hey guys, my friends MC keeps blackscreening just after he logs in, http://pastebin.com/fNjve1QJ
#1046 [17:27] <sheppycider123> any ideas?
#1047 [17:27] <Doc> had he modded his game? or is it "stock"
#1048 [17:27] * Coll_ [Coll_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1049 [17:27] <sheppycider123> pure vanilla
#1050 [17:27] <|Kiikun|> Doc: "vanilla" :P
#1051 [17:27] <Doc> sorry, yes, vanilla
#1052 [17:28] <|Kiikun|> sheppycider123: have him upgrade his video drivers.
#1053 [17:28] <|Kiikun|> sheppycider123: also does he happen to be on a toshiba c660?
#1054 [17:28] <sheppycider123> ill ask
#1055 [17:28] * ShadowDracos [ShadowDracos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1056 [17:28] * ShadowDracos [ShadowDracos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1057 [17:29] <sheppycider123> yes it is exxact;y
#1058 [17:29] <sheppycider123> exactly*
#1059 [17:29] <|Kiikun|> :c660
#1060 [17:29] <WugBot> c660: Toshiba c660 laptops sometimes have issues installing and verifying their graphics drivers. Follow the instructions on this page to properly install drivers: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/toshiba_c660_laptops_and_ati_problem
#1061 [17:29] <WugBot> c660: Use the following driver for the procedure: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20675&ProdId=3319&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20Home%20Premium%2C%2064-bit%20version*&DownloadType=%0ADrivers%0A
#1062 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> That error report shows windows XP
#1063 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Toshiba c660s run windows 7
#1064 [17:29] <sheppycider123> im pretty sure hes Win &
#1065 [17:29] <sheppycider123> yea
#1066 [17:30] * mib_axj3g3 [mib_axj3g3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1067 [17:30] * Jammy [Jammy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1068 [17:30] * |Kiikun| just asks on ati driver crashes :P
#1068 [17:30] * GreyVulpine has that habit as well
#1068 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Though this is the first I've seen with an error report that's showing WinXP on c660
#1069 [17:31] * mib_3atztv [mib_3atztv@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1070 [17:31] <mib_axj3g3> hey erm i try download minecraft but it won't load or update finish n i bought so i need help very much
#1071 [17:32] <mib_axj3g3> guys...
#1072 [17:33] <|Kiikun|> mib_3atztv: it stalls in the package downloading?
#1073 [17:33] <mib_axj3g3> ya
#1074 [17:33] <mib_axj3g3> also i try 2 not update n it even din't work
#1075 [17:34] <|Kiikun|> mib_axj3g3: your firewall might be blocking part of it. try disabling your firewall for a minute and tryng again.
#1076 [17:34] <mib_axj3g3> i brought a ffucking new window 7 home premiun for this shit
#1077 [17:34] * AuBot kicked mib_axj3g3 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_axj3g3 :Please keep it civil.)
#1078 [17:34] <|Kiikun|> ....
#1079 [17:35] * |Kiikun| goes back to eating
#1079 [17:35] <DreadLindwyrm> That bot is quick on the draw.
#1080 [17:35] <|Kiikun|> sure the fuck is!
#1081 [17:35] * AuBot kicked |Kiikun| from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Kiikun| :Please keep it civil.)
#1082 [17:35] * |Kiikun| [|Kiikun|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1083 [17:35] <|Kiikun|> :P
#1084 [17:35] <|Kiikun|> sorry.. had to
#1085 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> /kick for autorejoin!
#1086 [17:35] * New-B [New-B@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1087 [17:36] * |Kiikun| has it on a delay!! of 10 ticks!
#1087 [17:36] <mib_3atztv> When i try to play classic minecraft I get a message saying "the publisher can not be verified by a trusted source. Code will be treated as unsigned." Name: org.lwjg.util.applet.AppletLoader, what do I do about this?
#1088 [17:36] <|Kiikun|> mib_3atztv: say yes.
#1089 [17:36] <mib_3atztv> I do but the game screen goes black
#1090 [17:37] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1091 [17:37] <mib_3atztv> with a little ! on a paper in the top left corner
#1092 [17:37] <New-B> just got my minecraft server up and running, but unable to find a good address to give to friends so they can connect... apparently ipconfig isn't the way to get the address I need
#1093 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> whatismyip.com
#1094 [17:37] * mib_axj3g3 [mib_axj3g3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1095 [17:38] <New-B> I'll give it a shot, GreyVulpine
#1096 [17:38] <sheppycider123> New-B: Do you use hamachi?
#1097 [17:38] <mib_axj3g3> hey it didn't work sorry for that
#1098 [17:39] * iflema [iflema@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1099 [17:39] <|Kiikun|> ??> mib_3atztv java/version
#1100 [17:39] <VoxelHead> mib_3atztv: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1101 [17:39] <VoxelHead> mib_3atztv: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1102 [17:40] <mib_axj3g3> version 6 update 30
#1103 [17:40] <|Kiikun|> mib_axj3g3: and this is why aubot yells at every mib_ that joins. i was talkgin to mib_3atztv, not you.
#1104 [17:41] <sheppycider123> ok, he says [5:40:13 PM] Gwilym Renouf: got message saying it wasn't the appropriate driver for this comp..
#1105 [17:42] <|Kiikun|> mib_axj3g3: and try updatign your video drivers too.
#1106 [17:42] <sheppycider123> So the toshiba drive package wasnt the right one?
#1107 [17:42] <|Kiikun|> sheppycider123: he has to install the drivers manually, not using the installer.
#1108 [17:43] <sheppycider123> ok
#1109 [17:43] <sheppycider123> how would he do that?
#1110 [17:43] <mib_axj3g3> so... help
#1111 [17:43] <sheppycider123> I cant actually see what hes doing, and hes a retard when it comes to this - whether out of choice or not i dunno
#1112 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> sheppycider123 - Have him read this: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
#1113 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> It should be step by step instructions
#1114 [17:44] <sheppycider123> thanks ill pass that on :)
#1115 [17:44] <|Kiikun|> :dx > mib_axj3g3
#1116 [17:44] <WugBot> mib_axj3g3: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1117 [17:44] <WugBot> mib_axj3g3: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1118 [17:44] <New-B> I got the IP address from whatismyip.com and entered it into the server properties file, but when I tried to connect it says "failed to bind port" any ideas?
#1119 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Don't fill in server-ip
#1120 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't do what you think it does
#1121 [17:45] <New-B> do don't modify the server properties file?
#1122 [17:46] <|Kiikun|> ?? smp/server-ip
#1123 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> You can modify it, sure. but don't fill in server-ip with your ip address, whether local or your public ip.
#1124 [17:46] <VoxelHead> smp/server-ip: Do not enter anything on the server-ip= line of the server.properties file. In nearly ALL cases, you want to leave it blank.
#1125 [17:46] <New-B> sounds good, I'll give it a try
#1126 [17:46] * mib_rc8yh6 [mib_rc8yh6@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1127 [17:47] <New-B> I get a message saying "server permissions file file permissions.yml is not valid YAML" - any concern here?
#1128 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> You're running a bukkit server?
#1129 [17:48] <New-B> yes
#1130 [17:48] <|Kiikun|> New-B: thats a bukkit-related line.
#1131 [17:48] <Morrolan> New-B: Easiest solution is probably to delete the permissions.yml file and let it regenerate.
#1132 [17:48] <Morrolan> Unless you changed something important in there.
#1133 [17:48] <Morrolan> Either way, g'night you all.
#1134 [17:48] * wannabemac [wannabemac@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1135 [17:49] <mib_axj3g3> nope i can't
#1136 [17:49] <wannabemac> Hello.
#1137 [17:49] <|Kiikun|> lol.. morrolan... the ninjahelper
#1138 [17:49] <wannabemac> xales is a ninja.
#1139 [17:49] <New-B> looking better... ;-)
#1140 [17:49] <|Kiikun|> wannabemac: he just commented and left :P
#1141 [17:51] <New-B> getting a "can't resolve hostname" message when connecting to the server using ip from whatismyip.com
#1142 [17:51] <|Kiikun|> New-B: YOU use 127.0.0.1. everyone else uses the whatismyip address
#1143 [17:52] <|Kiikun|> !check 96.240.214.188
#1144 [17:52] <|Kiikun|> :/
#1145 [17:54] * Lothos [Lothos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1146 [17:54] <langkid1> herp
#1147 [17:54] <Lothos> Does anyone else have issues with being able to hit mobs through a 1 block space at their feet?
#1148 [17:55] <wannabemac> ?
#1149 [17:55] <wannabemac> What?
#1150 [17:55] <|Kiikun|> Lothos: on smp?
#1151 [17:55] <New-B> I logged on using 127.0.0.1 which was fine, but when my friend tried connecting to the server using 96.240.214.188 he got a message saying "could not rach server"
#1152 [17:55] <Lothos> smp?
#1153 [17:55] <langkid1> New-B, you need to port forward
#1154 [17:55] <|Kiikun|> New-B: firewall or ^that
#1155 [17:55] <|Kiikun|> Lothos: multiplayer
#1156 [17:55] <langkid1> hamachi works, but it's not anywhere near ideal
#1157 [17:56] <Lothos> yeah, multi
#1158 [17:56] * |Kiikun| stabs langkid1 for even mentioning hamachi
#1158 [17:56] <New-B> so, kill the firewall, or add an exception?
#1159 [17:56] <Lothos> i can never hit the mobs when exploring and I see their feet
#1160 [17:56] <New-B> just to get it running?
#1161 [17:56] <langkid1> well, yes, a Exception
#1162 [17:56] <|Kiikun|> New-B: try disablign it a second so we can have aubot check you
#1163 [17:56] <|Kiikun|> to make sure its not a forwarding issue
#1164 [17:56] <langkid1> New-B, what is your Internet Service Provider?
#1165 [17:56] <langkid1> never mind that
#1166 [17:56] <langkid1> it's Verizon, right?
#1167 [17:57] * langkid1 is not experienced with Verizon routers, please wait for someone else to help you, Thank you for coming to #minecrafthelp !
#1167 [17:57] <New-B> yes, verizon
#1168 [17:57] <langkid1> your IP gave it away :P
#1169 [17:57] <New-B> LOL,,,, ;-)
#1170 [17:57] <|Kiikun|> Lothos: thats normal in smp. its one of the bugs that hasent ben delt with yet... or lag related.
#1171 [17:58] * Coll [Coll@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1172 [17:58] <|Kiikun|> langkid1!bouncer@langkid1.me
#1173 [17:58] <New-B> k... thanks for all the help so far... big help... ;-)
#1174 [17:59] <Calinou> "YOU use 127.0.0.1."
#1175 [17:59] <Lothos> whats generally a workaround then? hitting them thru 1 block at their head?
#1176 [17:59] <Calinou> you can also use "localhost", which may be easier to remember
#1177 [17:59] <langkid1> |Kiichan|Schala|, lol
#1178 [17:59] <Calinou> Lothos: in multiplayer you can't hit mobs's feet
#1179 [17:59] <langkid1> |Kiikun|, lol
#1180 [17:59] <Calinou> known bug, around here since forever (unfortunately)
#1181 [17:59] <|Kiikun|> Calinou: i got tired of people asking 'whats localhost?' :P
#1182 [18:00] <langkid1> LOL
#1183 [18:00] <langkid1> What is with the dumbness, is common sense a non-renewable resource? Can't anyone just infer that localhost is?
#1184 [18:01] <Lothos> not much reference to localhost these days with the kiddies
#1185 [18:01] <Calinou> Lothos: mojang doesn't care much about multiplayer :|
#1186 [18:01] <Lothos> dont even get me started on netbios or lmhosts files
#1187 [18:01] <Calinou> lots of latency, uses TCP, holy **** tons of bugs
#1188 [18:01] <|Kiikun|> Calinou: except when notch beats someone to death with a dirt block :P
#1189 [18:01] <Calinou> = very unpolished SMP experience. :|
#1190 [18:01] <Calinou> bleh
#1191 [18:01] <Lothos> calinou, is there a workable workaround in multi for things like xp farms then?
#1192 [18:02] * |Kiikun| wonders why the bukkit team havent 'fixed' these bugs..
#1192 [18:02] <Calinou> xp farms work in multiplayer, hit the mobs' upper part
#1193 [18:02] <Calinou> |Kiikun|: requires client mods
#1194 [18:02] <Lothos> dont creepers pose an issue ?
#1195 [18:02] <|Kiikun|> ebh. right
#1196 [18:02] <Calinou> jeb, come here and fix our client. :]
#1197 [18:02] <Calinou> use a bow then, or a sword and push em off a cliff or something
#1198 [18:03] <Lothos> :) how about inside a contianed xp farm?
#1199 [18:04] <New-B> tried adding mindcraft.exe to the windows firewall exception list... hoping to allow my friend to connect
#1200 [18:04] * Silent [Silent@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1201 [18:04] <|Kiikun|> New-B: java too.
#1202 [18:04] <New-B> message returned on friends computer saying 'unable to reach server'
#1203 [18:05] * w [w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1204 [18:05] <New-B> exception in firewall for java...? I'll give it a shot
#1205 [18:05] * wippler [wippler@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1206 [18:05] <|Kiikun|> New-B: and did you port forward correctly??
#1207 [18:05] <Lothos> jaava shouldn't require a firewall exception
#1208 [18:05] <|Kiikun|> this is why we say 'disable firewall to test' ~.~
#1209 [18:05] <Lothos> he's not forwarding the port clearly
#1210 [18:05] <|Kiikun|> Lothos: it SHOULDNT... unless someone clicked something wrong
#1211 [18:06] <Lothos> heh, they do always make better PEBKAC's
#1212 [18:07] <|Kiikun|> Lothos: we have a faqlet for them :P
#1213 [18:07] <|Kiikun|> ??>> Lothos dont/pebcak
#1214 [18:07] <Lothos> can you hit a mob over a 1 block plus halfslab?
#1215 [18:07] <New-B> didnt do port forward yet... I told friend to use 96.240.214.188:25565 - is this what you mean my port forwarding?
#1216 [18:07] <|Kiikun|> Lothos: ues i think so
#1217 [18:08] <|Kiikun|> New-B: yes.
#1218 [18:08] <|Kiikun|> :pf
#1219 [18:08] <WugBot> pf: You need to set up port forwarding on your router for people outside of your network to access your Minecraft server. First, find out your public ip address by issuing this command in this channel: ;ip
#1220 [18:08] <WugBot> pf: Then, locate the make and model of your router on this site for detailed instructions: http://goo.gl/DsVIL
#1221 [18:09] <New-B> I'm on a different computer here than I'm using for minecraft...
#1222 [18:09] <|Kiikun|> New-B: your on the computer runnign the server?
#1223 [18:10] <New-B> not at the moment, gimme a sec... I'll start a session on the same machine... brb
#1224 [18:11] <|Kiikun|> New-B: you just need to know the server's ip... waaait....
#1225 [18:11] <New-B> k
#1226 [18:11] <|Kiikun|> New-B: 127.0.0.1 aka localhost works for connecting to the server yet your not on the computer runnign the server?
#1227 [18:12] <New-B> two laptops - side by side...
#1228 [18:12] <Lothos> you know, local to the one on the same table :)
#1229 [18:12] <|Kiikun|> you need to know the ip of the laptop runnign the server. is that the one youre playign minecraft on?
#1230 [18:12] <New-B> laptop using minecraft is what I'm doing commands on... 127.0.0.1 on that computer,
#1231 [18:13] <New-B> this one just for chat
#1232 [18:13] <New-B> easier that way
#1233 [18:13] <|Kiikun|> ok.
#1234 [18:13] <|Kiikun|> first.. do you know what model router you have?
#1235 [18:15] <New-B> looking... one sec
#1236 [18:15] <Lothos> last I checked, 127.0.0.1 is not a valid LAN address
#1237 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> ure it is
#1238 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> for localhost
#1239 [18:16] <Lothos> you sure your local ip isnt 192.168.1.xxx or something?
#1240 [18:16] <|Kiikun|> Lothos: it isnt. thought he was runngin minecraft and server on diff computers yet somehow localohst worked.. which pointed to some SERIOUS FUP OF NETWORK ROUTING
#1241 [18:16] <Lothos> he alreayd said he is running the server on another pc
#1242 [18:16] <|Kiikun|> Lothos: and playign it on that same pc
#1243 [18:16] <New-B> westell A75001597
#1244 [18:16] <Lothos> wait, I thought he was playing from the pc he's on irc with
#1245 [18:17] <New-B> That's Verizon router Westell A75001507
#1246 [18:17] <|Kiikun|> yeah foind it of pf.com
#1247 [18:17] <Lothos> verizon FIOS service?
#1248 [18:18] <|Kiikun|> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Westell/A90-750015-07/Minecraft_Server.htm
#1249 [18:19] * mib_ep3wde [mib_ep3wde@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1250 [18:20] * diamond [diamond@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1251 [18:20] * Kuth [Kuth@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1252 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> For the official record, by the way, purchases via PayPal are still pretty-much instantaneous.
#1253 [18:21] <diamond> We bought the full version but the download was interrupted and now we cant get it back
#1254 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> so that's definitely the way to fly WRT purchasing the game.
#1255 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> ??> diamond win/client
#1256 [18:21] <VoxelHead> diamond: (win/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#1257 [18:22] * caseyjfer [caseyjfer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1258 [18:22] * caseyjfer [caseyjfer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1259 [18:22] * caseyjfer [caseyjfer@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1260 [18:24] <diamond> what do we do go to that web site. It doesn't seem right. We payed for the full version but cant seem to download
#1261 [18:24] * Mobz [Mobz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1262 [18:25] <Mobz> hello
#1263 [18:27] <|Kiikun|> diamond: the link from vox is to the client. you download the client and log in and it downloads all the game files and you can play. what DOESNT seem right about the address?
#1264 [18:27] <|Kiikun|> Mobz: hi.
#1265 [18:30] <Mobz> is their a way for me to pay for minecraft with a standard paypal account with no credit cards tied to it?
#1266 [18:31] <|Kiikun|> Mobz: i believe so. just select to pay via paypal and then login.
#1267 [18:32] <Mobz> i did and it says that you must have instant access to pay for it via mastercard, visa, amex
#1268 [18:32] <langkid1> Does anyone else have a problem where the client lags A LOT when you open the chat or any GUI?
#1269 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> Mobz: If you put enough funds into the PayPal account, certainly
#1270 [18:32] * calatalee [calatalee@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1271 [18:32] <langkid1> like, totally freezes
#1272 [18:32] <Mobz> i did, it didnt work dope
#1273 [18:33] <Mobz> DopeGhoti
#1274 [18:34] <|Kiikun|> Mobz: you have $26.53 USD on paypal?
#1275 [18:34] <Mobz> yes
#1276 [18:34] <Mobz> this is what it says when i log into paypal
#1277 [18:34] <Mobz> to pay for minecraft
#1278 [18:35] <Mobz> "This merchant only accepts instant payments. To cintinue with this purchase, link a debit or credit card to your paypal account or choose other options below
#1279 [18:35] <Mobz> i have a debit linked up, and 50 dollars USD on the account
#1280 [18:37] <langkid1> turn off Bill Me Laterz
#1281 [18:37] <langkid1> I think :P
#1282 [18:37] <Mobz> no such thing
#1283 [18:38] <|Kiikun|> no idea.. never had that issue with paypal...
#1284 [18:38] <|Kiikun|> and they like my checking accouint so i didnt even link my debt
#1285 [18:39] * cam123 [cam123@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1286 [18:40] <Mobz> yeah. i paid for minecraft before, 5 times. im attempting to purchase another code off a different account for minecraft. since their is a 5 code limit on my previous account.
#1287 [18:40] <Mobz> did minecraft update their way to purchase it since march 2011?
#1288 [18:40] <|Kiikun|> transfer the money from paypal to the debt card and then try? o.o;
#1289 [18:40] <|Kiikun|> possibly!
#1290 [18:41] <Mobz> nope, money is already transfered
#1291 [18:42] <quiggle> what is the purpose of leveling up??
#1292 [18:43] * Puddles [Puddles@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1293 [18:43] * Freddo [Freddo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1294 [18:43] <zkxs> quiggle: You can use levels to enchant items
#1295 [18:43] <quiggle> ooooooo ok well tht makes sense
#1296 [18:44] * slimer [slimer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1297 [18:44] <Puddles> having issues logging in with my accoutn i reset pass and i still cant log in
#1298 [18:45] <slimer> I downloaded the painterly texture pack, ended up contracting a virus, and now I can't play Minecraft at all
#1299 [18:46] <zkxs> slimer: then it wasn't the painterly texture pack you downloaded
#1300 [18:46] <slimer> It was, because it all the painterly pack graphics, including the customization
#1301 [18:47] <Mobz> slimer: re-install java, remove the folder 'c:/users/username/appdata/roaming/.minecraft' and re-install minecraft.exe
#1302 [18:47] <slimer> alright
#1303 [18:49] <zkxs> Puddles: What message, exactly, do you get when you try to login?
#1304 [18:49] <Puddles> login failed
#1305 [18:49] <zkxs> Puddles: what do you see on this webpage? https://login.minecraft.net/?user=minecrafthelp&password=ftw&version=9001
#1306 [18:50] * morton [morton@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1307 [18:50] <Puddles> on the main page it says oops unkown login or pass even tho i just reset it
#1308 [18:50] <Puddles> bad login
#1309 [18:50] <zkxs> Puddles: are you sure you are using the correct username?
#1310 [18:50] * genshou [genshou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1311 [18:51] <Puddles> yup
#1312 [18:51] <wannabemac> Hmm, are you using a cracked version of minecraft?
#1313 [18:51] <Puddles> i still have the receit
#1314 [18:51] <Puddles> me? no i have 1.8
#1315 [18:51] <Puddles> cant update it
#1316 [18:51] <wannabemac> LOL
#1317 [18:51] <zkxs> Puddles: what is your minecraft username?
#1318 [18:51] <Puddles> joeclub7
#1319 [18:51] <zkxs> !paid joeclub7
#1320 [18:52] <wannabemac> !paid God
#1321 [18:52] <wannabemac> just checking :D
#1322 [18:52] <zkxs> So chances are your username is right. And this isn't working for you? http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1323 [18:53] <Puddles> ive reset it several times
#1324 [18:53] <Puddles> with and without caps, symbols
#1325 [18:53] <quiggle> what kind of house is best reccomended?(tree, underground, on groud, etc,,,)
#1326 [18:53] <Puddles> and numbers
#1327 [18:54] <zkxs> Have you been messing with mojang's unified account stuff at all?
#1328 [18:54] <|Kiikun|> quiggle: one that has a door.
#1329 [18:55] <iPixeli|TestingFemaleZombies> lol this ^
#1330 [18:55] <Puddles> no idea what that is
#1331 [18:55] * mib_ju2njj [mib_ju2njj@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1332 [18:55] <Puddles> i just like to build things lol
#1333 [18:55] <iPixeli|TestingFemaleZombies> unified account?
#1334 [18:56] <zkxs> Puddles: try using this with the email address you used to buy minecraft: http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#1335 [18:56] <zkxs> iPixeli|TestingFemaleZombies: http://mojang.com/2011/12/06/one-account-to-rule-them-all/
#1336 [18:56] <|Kiikun|> iPixeli|TestingFemaleZombies: the new account structure for people that want ot play other mojang games (curruently Cobalt)
#1337 [18:57] <Mobz> !paid Bobandicus
#1338 [18:57] <Mobz> dam
#1339 [18:57] <Sigma> !paid me
#1340 [18:57] <Sigma> !paid brandon
#1341 [18:57] <|Kiikun|> Mobz: you shoudl get an email once the account is premium
#1342 [18:57] <Puddles> no luck
#1343 [18:57] <Mobz> i know but im still stuck at the payment
#1344 [18:58] <Mobz> its not letting me pay with a regular paypal account
#1345 [18:58] <Mobz> !paid jerelono3
#1346 [18:58] <Mobz> thats mine
#1347 [18:58] <zkxs> Puddles: what do you mean 'no luck'?
#1348 [18:58] <Mobz> my friends is what i checked before
#1349 [18:59] <Puddles> just gave me my username telling me i was a premium account
#1350 [18:59] <Puddles> no good if i cant use it..
#1351 [18:59] <zkxs> and the username it gave you was joeclub7?
#1352 [18:59] <Puddles> ive tried logging in on more then 1 pc all say the same thing\
#1353 [19:00] <Puddles> Hi, Someone requested a list of all users bound to this e-mail account. If this wasn't you, you can safely ignore this e-mail, it won't bite. Accounts for xxxxxxxxx@ymail.com: * Joeclub7 (Premium!) That is all, happy mining. Mojang.
#1354 [19:01] <mib_9ypj5f> um does anyone kn9ow what an irc channel is?
#1355 [19:02] <zkxs> ?? irc/channel
#1356 [19:02] <VoxelHead> irc/channel: You're in one.
#1357 [19:02] <mib_9ypj5f> oh
#1358 [19:02] <mib_9ypj5f> oh voxel
#1359 [19:02] <mib_9ypj5f> thanks
#1360 [19:02] <mib_9ypj5f> http://pastebin.com/BgF79dU3 i was on another computer but it gave me a new username
#1361 [19:02] <mib_9ypj5f> you told me to paste this here
#1362 [19:04] <mib_9ypj5f> it was because my minecraft got the black screen and i already updated java and you told me to go to pastbin.com to post something i forgot but whats after this?
#1363 [19:04] <Puddles> so nobody knows why i cant log in?
#1364 [19:05] <zkxs> Puddles: no idea. You could try this http://www.minecraft.net/support
#1365 [19:05] <Puddles> they sent me here..
#1366 [19:05] <Puddles> lo
#1367 [19:05] <Puddles> l
#1368 [19:06] <|Kiikun|> mib_9ypj5f: download and install this. https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/10-2_legacy_xp32-64_wdm.exe
#1369 [19:06] <mib_9ypj5f> VoxelHead um you told me to send you a link to pastebin.com and i just sent it so what do i do now?
#1370 [19:06] <mib_9ypj5f> thanks
#1371 [19:07] <zkxs> Puddles: unless it is something really silly, like caps lock being on. You have the correct username, you can successfully reset your pass, you can access the login servers. I don't see any issues.
#1372 [19:07] <mib_9ypj5f> what is it?
#1373 [19:07] <mib_9ypj5f> an update for my video driver?
#1374 [19:07] <|Kiikun|> mib_9ypj5f: yes it is.
#1375 [19:07] <mib_9ypj5f> oh thanks =D
#1376 [19:07] <mib_9ypj5f> :)
#1377 [19:08] <zkxs> ?? bot
#1378 [19:08] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#1379 [19:08] <Puddles> nope i have experience with stuff like this, i can usually figure it out but im lost
#1380 [19:09] <zkxs> Puddles: where did you buy minecraft from?
#1381 [19:10] <zkxs> ?? aubot
#1382 [19:10] <VoxelHead> aubot: Aubot is also a bot.
#1383 [19:10] <wannabemac> LOL
#1384 [19:10] <wannabemac> xD
#1385 [19:12] <|Kiikun|> Stalone: "Am I insane?" Stalone (as another character): "Completely."
#1386 [19:12] <|Kiikun|> ~.~
#1387 [19:12] * |Kiikun| needs to change the channel on the tv
#1387 [19:12] * mib_ezcgag [mib_ezcgag@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1388 [19:13] * New-B [New-B@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1389 [19:13] <Puddles> minecraft.net
#1390 [19:13] <zkxs> Puddles: that is the correct answer. any place other than minecraft.net is a scam.
#1391 [19:14] <Puddles> i know u did the ipaid thain
#1392 [19:14] <Puddles> thing
#1393 [19:14] <New-B> tried portforwarding, and the port shows up as being open on the router now, but using the portchecker tool it says "your port is not open or is unreachable"
#1394 [19:14] <New-B> friend still is unable to connect
#1395 [19:14] <zkxs> some scams are very elaborate, and actually have paid usernames they steal from you after a month or so
#1396 [19:15] <Puddles> is it a possibilty my username was hacked/stolen?
#1397 [19:16] <zkxs> Puddles: no. The email address cannot be changed, so unless your email is stolen, your minecraft account is under your control.
#1398 [19:17] <zkxs> Puddles: has minecraft worked previously for you?
#1399 [19:18] <Puddles> yes for months
#1400 [19:20] <zkxs> Puddles: are you using the in-browser applet or the launcher?
#1401 [19:21] * New-B_ [New-B_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1402 [19:22] <Puddles> launcher
#1403 [19:22] <New-B> with port forwarding do I only need TCP or UDP as well?
#1404 [19:22] <zkxs> Puddles: can you login on minecraft.net?
#1405 [19:22] <zkxs> New-B: only TCP
#1406 [19:22] <New-B> k
#1407 [19:25] <zkxs> forwarding udp can't hurt though
#1408 [19:25] <New-B> direction for forwarding is "in"...yes?
#1409 [19:25] <zkxs> yes
#1410 [19:27] <zkxs> New-B: Have you configured your firewall?
#1411 [19:28] <New-B> k. I've got the entry in the router set up for udp and tcp to forward port 25565, but when I check the router using the verison port checker tool it says "your port is not open or reachable" checking port 25565, even though the entry shows in the router settings....
#1412 [19:28] <zkxs> New-B: Have you configured your firewall?
#1413 [19:28] <New-B> no, what do I need to do in the firewall, just exception for port?
#1414 [19:28] <zkxs> Yep
#1415 [19:28] <New-B> k
#1416 [19:38] * Omega_Guardian [Omega_Guardian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1417 [19:38] * zelda [zelda@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1418 [19:39] * w [w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1419 [19:52] * Hyper [Hyper@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1420 [19:53] <Hyper> for some reason after java loads when trying to play i get a black screen and just hangs can you pleasde help me?
#1421 [19:54] <zkxs> :ts/launcher > Hyper
#1422 [19:54] <WugBot> Hyper: (ts/launcher) Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#1423 [19:54] <WugBot> Hyper: (ts/launcher) Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#1424 [20:05] * TheNoodle [TheNoodle@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1425 [20:09] * Timmooo [Timmooo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1426 [20:10] * New-B [New-B@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1427 [20:11] <New-B> I added port 25565 to windows 7 firewall as an exception, but the port checker tool still shows no access...
#1428 [20:11] <TheNoodle> Have you port forwarded on your router?
#1429 [20:11] * Roy [Roy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1430 [20:11] <New-B> yes
#1431 [20:11] <TheNoodle> ;check New-B
#1432 [20:12] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: pool-96-240-214-188.spfdma.east.verizon.net:25565 (Timed out)
#1433 [20:12] <TheNoodle> Any other antivirus/firewalls?
#1434 [20:13] <New-B> turned off antivirus, no other firewall...
#1435 [20:16] * New-B2 [New-B2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1436 [20:17] <New-B2> might make it easier, logged onto same computer minecraft is runing on
#1437 [20:17] <New-B2> ;check
#1438 [20:18] <New-B2> still trying to get that port that I opened to show up properly... no antivirus running, and no firewall, other than the one that comes with win 7
#1439 [20:19] <TheNoodle> ;check New-B2
#1440 [20:19] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: pool-96-240-214-188.spfdma.east.verizon.net:25565 (Timed out)
#1441 [20:19] <TheNoodle> Are you sure you portforwarded to the right computer?
#1442 [20:20] <New-B2> not at all... I just added the port 25565, didn't see anywhere to forward to a specific computer in the settings
#1443 [20:21] <TheNoodle> hmmm, that might be your problem then.
#1444 [20:21] <TheNoodle> Dig deeper in your router config?
#1445 [20:23] <New-B2> router only seemed to ask to name the new rule (Minecraft Server), what protocol (both), and what port to open... what else would I be looking for to add?
#1446 [20:23] * black_pearl [black_pearl@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1447 [20:24] * Understudy [Understudy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1448 [20:24] <black_pearl> Hi all. Anyone willing to help me with simple plugin issues?
#1449 [20:24] <black_pearl> Hi all. Anyone willing to help me with simple plugin issues?
#1450 [20:24] * Understudy [Understudy@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1451 [20:27] <black_pearl> Hm, anyone?
#1452 [20:31] <tyteen4a03> black_pearl: For bukkit plugin issues please head over to #bukkit
#1453 [20:32] * WhereIsMySpoon [WhereIsMySpoon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1454 [20:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> hi, im trying to run a decompiled client from eclipse and having troubles
#1455 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> ??> WhereIsMySpoon mods
#1456 [20:32] <VoxelHead> WhereIsMySpoon: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1457 [20:32] <VoxelHead> WhereIsMySpoon: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1458 [20:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> eh
#1459 [20:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> well damn
#1460 [20:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> sigh
#1461 [20:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> is there a general modding channel?
#1462 [20:33] <tyteen4a03> #risucrat
#1463 [20:33] <tyteen4a03> *risucraft
#1464 [20:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok
#1465 [20:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> thx
#1466 [20:34] <black_pearl> should I use #bukkit or #risucraft?
#1467 [20:34] <xales> black_pearl: Is it a Bukkit plugin?
#1468 [20:34] <black_pearl> I'm having plugin issues with bukkit
#1469 [20:34] <xales> Then go to #bukkit
#1470 [20:34] <black_pearl> ok, thanks
#1471 [20:35] * w [w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1472 [20:37] * black_pearl [black_pearl@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1473 [20:37] <black_pearl> out of curiosity...how do I go to a different irc channel?
#1474 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> "/join #channelname"
#1475 [20:37] * mib_0dp5wr [mib_0dp5wr@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1476 [20:37] <auscompgeek> or just click the channel name in
#1477 [20:38] <auscompgeek> ...most clients
#1478 [20:38] <auscompgeek> ...most clients
#1479 [20:38] * black_pearl [black_pearl@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1480 [20:39] <mib_0dp5wr> how do you run the game? I have a bunch of directories on my desktop
#1481 [20:40] * digit [digit@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1482 [20:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> run minecraft.exe
#1483 [20:40] <mib_0dp5wr> thanks
#1484 [20:42] <mib_0dp5wr> what do i need in my path to run windows cant find it
#1485 [20:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> probably your jreX/bin
#1486 [20:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> so that windows can find java
#1487 [20:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> C:/Program Files(x86)/Java/whatever
#1488 [20:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> inside there should be a jre folder
#1489 [20:43] <New-B2> it appears the port is open to all computers on the port that I opened in the windows 7 firewall, but the port is not showing in the port checker... there's a number of tabs for additional configuration... anything I need to do there you might know about?
#1490 [20:44] * I_Eat_Plastic [I_Eat_Plastic@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1491 [20:45] <digit> I've downloaded minecraft and it runs fine but the actions are slow--any suggestions?
#1492 [20:46] * GrimMMCL [GrimMMCL@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1493 [20:47] <I_Eat_Monster_Trucks> digit - slow as in fps or as in it lags?
#1494 [20:47] <New-B2> I'm assuming if I don't specify specific computers, that the port is open to all..yes?
#1495 [20:48] <digit> fps
#1496 [20:48] <zkxs> New-B2: The firewall only affects the computer it is running on
#1497 [20:48] <GrimMMCL> how do i stop the game going to the black screen
#1498 [20:48] <zkxs> :ts/launcher > GrimMMCL
#1499 [20:48] <WugBot> GrimMMCL: (ts/launcher) Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#1500 [20:48] <WugBot> GrimMMCL: (ts/launcher) Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#1501 [20:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> digit - try lowering the render distance
#1502 [20:50] <zkxs> New-B2: If you'd like, I could try to do it for you via TeamViewer.
#1503 [20:50] <GrimMMCL> i have the render at tiny
#1504 [20:50] <New-B2> That'd be excellent, zkxs... what do you need?
#1505 [20:51] <zkxs> New-B2: You need to download and run this, then PM me the username and password it displays. http://downloadus1.teamviewer.com/download/version_6x/TeamViewerQS.exe
#1506 [20:51] <New-B2> k.. one sec
#1507 [20:53] <New-B2> user 286 721 908 4063
#1508 [20:53] <zkxs> New-B2: exit and reopen it
#1509 [20:53] <zkxs> that wasnt a private message
#1510 [20:53] <New-B2> k
#1511 [20:54] <zkxs> when you reopen it, it should have a new password
#1512 [20:54] <zkxs> this is how you send a PM:
#1513 [20:54] <zkxs> /msg zkxs user xxx xxx xxx pass xxxx
#1514 [20:55] * penguinman235 [penguinman235@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1515 [20:55] <penguinman235> hi
#1516 [20:55] <penguinman235> i am making a new multiplayer server and i am wondering why can people not log on?
#1517 [20:55] <New-B2> pm zkxs
#1518 [20:55] <New-B2> what's the comand for pm?
#1519 [20:56] <penguinman235> so can u help me?
#1520 [20:56] * mikaelrocks1231 [mikaelrocks1231@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1521 [20:56] <mikaelrocks1231> Hello
#1522 [20:56] <penguinman235> hi can u help me
#1523 [20:56] <mikaelrocks1231> Is anyone actually here ?
#1524 [20:56] <penguinman235> if i am making a new multyiplayer server how do i get people to log on
#1525 [20:57] <mikaelrocks1231> Penguin i will join
#1526 [20:57] <zkxs> New-B2: there should be another tab or something open in the webchat from me
#1527 [20:57] <penguinman235> okay
#1528 [20:57] <penguinman235> the ip it
#1529 [20:57] <mikaelrocks1231> When you make it tell me ill join
#1530 [20:57] <mikaelrocks1231> Guys is someone here who can help me ?
#1531 [20:57] <penguinman235> i already made it
#1532 [20:57] <mikaelrocks1231> Okay ill join then :D
#1533 [20:57] <zkxs> ?? irc/pm
#1534 [20:58] <mikaelrocks1231> Penguin tell me the IP
#1535 [20:59] <penguinman235> 96.241.148.3:25565 i think
#1536 [20:59] <penguinman235> if it doesnt work then idk how to make it work
#1537 [20:59] <zkxs> New-B2: are you still there?
#1538 [20:59] <quiggle> how do i enchant things/what will enchanting them do?
#1539 [20:59] <penguinman235> u use an enchantment table
#1540 [20:59] <penguinman235> and it makes it alot better
#1541 [20:59] <GrimMMCL> i still need help with the game going to a black screen
#1542 [21:00] <penguinman235> we all need alot of help lol
#1543 [21:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> penguinman235 it isnt working
#1544 [21:01] <mikaelrocks1231> Penguin its not working
#1545 [21:01] <penguinman235> thats what i need help with
#1546 [21:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> did you set up port forwarding?
#1547 [21:01] <quiggle> if i enchant a tool will it last forever???
#1548 [21:01] <penguinman235> what is that?
#1549 [21:01] <penguinman235> what is port forwarding?
#1550 [21:01] <mikaelrocks1231> No quiggle
#1551 [21:01] <quiggle> ok thanks
#1552 [21:01] <mikaelrocks1231> It makes it better depending on the enchantment
#1553 [21:01] <penguinman235> whereismyspoon can u tell me how to port foward
#1554 [21:02] <mikaelrocks1231> penguin What is your router?
#1555 [21:02] <penguinman235> router i have verizon
#1556 [21:02] <mikaelrocks1231> Okay hold on
#1557 [21:02] <penguinman235> k
#1558 [21:02] <penguinman235> i am new
#1559 [21:02] <penguinman235> to this whole thing
#1560 [21:02] <penguinman235> so if u help me and get on i will rank u high
#1561 [21:03] <mikaelrocks1231> Okay penguinman
#1562 [21:03] <mikaelrocks1231> Do you have teamviewer?
#1563 [21:04] <penguinman235> yeah i think
#1564 [21:04] <mikaelrocks1231> Okay tell me your ID and pass
#1565 [21:04] <mikaelrocks1231> and ill do it
#1566 [21:04] * zucchini [zucchini@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1567 [21:04] <penguinman235> just tell me pls
#1568 [21:04] <penguinman235> i dont want someone on my computer
#1569 [21:04] <mikaelrocks1231> Its hard . Let me do it
#1570 [21:04] <mikaelrocks1231> You dont even know how to portforward . . .
#1571 [21:04] <penguinman235> yeah i am watching a youtube vid
#1572 [21:05] <mikaelrocks1231> Do you know how to get your IP ?
#1573 [21:05] <digit> i am trying two start but the mousegose to the minecraft gruond and freezes. help?
#1574 [21:05] <mib_0dp5wr> How do I put the java runtime path in my set or profile?
#1575 [21:05] <zucchini> i just bought minecraft and when i try to play in browser my screen just goes white please help!!!
#1576 [21:05] <penguinman235> i have my ip
#1577 [21:06] <mikaelrocks1231> Okay put it into your webrouser
#1578 [21:06] <mikaelrocks1231> Are you done now ?
#1579 [21:06] * ImSpetsnaz [ImSpetsnaz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1580 [21:07] <zucchini> anyone???
#1581 [21:07] <mikaelrocks1231> Zucchini
#1582 [21:07] <mikaelrocks1231> What is your problem?
#1583 [21:07] <zucchini> yeah
#1584 [21:07] <zucchini> when i try to play minecraft in browser as instructed my screen goes white and just stops loading
#1585 [21:08] <mikaelrocks1231> Why do you play in brouser ?
#1586 [21:08] <mikaelrocks1231> Download the game client ?
#1587 [21:08] <mikaelrocks1231> Download the game client ?
#1588 [21:08] * ImSpetsnaz [ImSpetsnaz@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1589 [21:08] <zucchini> it tells me i have to play atleast once
#1590 [21:08] <mikaelrocks1231> Thats bs
#1591 [21:08] <mikaelrocks1231> Dude you go to minecraft.net
#1592 [21:08] <zucchini> ??
#1593 [21:08] <mikaelrocks1231> go to download right underneath buy
#1594 [21:08] <mikaelrocks1231> And it'll say download client
#1595 [21:09] <zucchini> ok thanks ill brb
#1596 [21:09] <TheNoodle> mikaelrocks1231, you missed this part "my screen goes white and just stops loading"
#1597 [21:09] <TheNoodle> zucchini, do you have java 1.6_30?
#1598 [21:09] <mikaelrocks1231> TheNoodle , Wanna help me when hes done :P
#1599 [21:09] <mikaelrocks1231> When your done with him :P
#1600 [21:10] <TheNoodle> That depends, what's your prob?
#1601 [21:10] <zucchini> im not sure ive downloaded the latest version. how do i check?
#1602 [21:10] <digit> help when next guy is done . just saw tony halk
#1603 [21:10] <mib_0dp5wr> how do I put the java runtime in my path? Windows 7
#1604 [21:10] <mikaelrocks1231> Thenoodle where is your name i wanna PM you my prob :D
#1605 [21:11] <mikaelrocks1231> Got it :P
#1606 [21:11] <TheNoodle> mib_0dp5wr, this is normally automatically done. If for some reason it has not google is your friend.
#1607 [21:11] <TheNoodle> zucchini start -> run -> type cmd and hit enter -> type java -version and press enter
#1608 [21:12] <TheNoodle> ??> mikaelrocks1231 mods
#1609 [21:12] <VoxelHead> mikaelrocks1231: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1610 [21:12] <VoxelHead> mikaelrocks1231: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1611 [21:12] <mikaelrocks1231> Really bro . LOL
#1612 [21:13] <TheNoodle> What?
#1613 [21:13] <zucchini> its says its not a recongized internal or external command?????????????]
#1614 [21:13] <TheNoodle> zucchini, this V
#1615 [21:13] <TheNoodle> :j
#1616 [21:13] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#1617 [21:13] <mikaelrocks1231> Fine ill go look at the forums . . . .
#1618 [21:13] <TheNoodle> download that.
#1619 [21:14] <TheNoodle> mikaelrocks1231, we don't help with mod problems.
#1620 [21:14] <penguinman235> mikeal
#1621 [21:14] <mikaelrocks1231> Ugh
#1622 [21:14] <penguinman235> try going on now
#1623 [21:14] <mikaelrocks1231> LoL kk
#1624 [21:14] <mikaelrocks1231> Gimmi ip again
#1625 [21:14] <penguinman235> hmm
#1626 [21:15] <penguinman235> 192.168.1.2:25565
#1627 [21:15] <penguinman235> try that
#1628 [21:15] <penguinman235> or i will see if the other one works
#1629 [21:16] <TheNoodle> gf is awake, cya guys.
#1630 [21:16] <zkxs> ;check New-B2
#1631 [21:16] <WugBot> pool-96-240-214-188.spfdma.east.verizon.net:25565 does not host a minecraft server.
#1632 [21:16] <zucchini> downloaded it nothing it happens:(
#1633 [21:17] * Kaito [Kaito@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1634 [21:18] <zucchini> can anyone help??
#1635 [21:20] <zucchini> the noodle help!!
#1636 [21:22] <penguinman235> anyone wanna go on my server?
#1637 [21:22] <penguinman235> just made it :D
#1638 [21:22] <zucchini> i wish i could
#1639 [21:22] <penguinman235> we r making craftbukkit soon
#1640 [21:23] <zkxs> ;check New-B2
#1641 [21:23] <WugBot> pool-96-240-214-188.spfdma.east.verizon.net:25565 does not host a minecraft server.
#1642 [21:25] * Coll_ [Coll_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1643 [21:26] * andrewkm [andrewkm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1644 [21:26] * figaro [figaro@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1645 [21:26] * oldtopman [oldtopman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1646 [21:27] <zucchini> can anyone help?????????????????????
#1647 [21:27] * Coll_ [Coll_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1648 [21:28] <penguinman235> anyone wanna join a brand new server?
#1649 [21:29] * Loki [Loki@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1650 [21:29] <Loki> Hello everyone!
#1651 [21:29] <penguinman235> hi
#1652 [21:29] <Loki> :)
#1653 [21:29] <Loki> Happy new year!
#1654 [21:30] <Loki> ?support
#1655 [21:30] <Loki> ??support
#1656 [21:30] <Loki> How was that command again ?
#1657 [21:31] <penguinman235> thanks
#1658 [21:31] <penguinman235> idk
#1659 [21:31] <penguinman235> lol
#1660 [21:31] <Loki> Is there any way to change my Minecraft email ?
#1661 [21:31] <penguinman235> not that i know of atm
#1662 [21:31] <Loki> I really want to contact Mojang to ask them if I can do this
#1663 [21:32] * armed [armed@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1664 [21:32] <Loki> or if they can do it for me
#1665 [21:32] * TheZimm [TheZimm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1666 [21:33] <penguinman235> mik
#1667 [21:33] * mikaelrocks1231 [mikaelrocks1231@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1668 [21:33] <penguinman235> hi
#1669 [21:33] <mikaelrocks1231> Penguin you still here ?
#1670 [21:33] <penguinman235> yeah
#1671 [21:33] * zander [zander@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1672 [21:33] <penguinman235> did u make the server
#1673 [21:34] <mikaelrocks1231> Yee . Imma give you the link kk . Cause i cant portforward
#1674 [21:34] <penguinman235> i can portfowar
#1675 [21:35] * mikaelrocks1231 [mikaelrocks1231@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1676 [21:35] <mikaelrocks1231> Penguin
#1677 [21:36] <penguinman235> yeah
#1678 [21:37] <mib_0dp5wr> I put the java runtime in my path but where is mindcraft.exe
#1679 [21:40] * dalecannon_ [dalecannon_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1680 [21:40] <penguinman235> mikeal
#1681 [21:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> mib_0dp5wr - in the folder you installed it to
#1682 [21:41] * mib_8tombertao87w [mib_8tombertao87w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1683 [21:45] <mib_0dp5wr> how do i strart mindcraft on windows 7? I have java installed
#1684 [21:46] * Tonux [Tonux@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1685 [21:46] <|Kiikun|> mib_0dp5wr: you run the exe.
#1686 [21:46] <|Kiikun|> ?? win/client
#1687 [21:46] <VoxelHead> win/client: http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#1688 [21:47] <mib_0dp5wr> whre is mindcraft.exe on windows 7
#1689 [21:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> mib_0dp5wr where you installed it like i said last time
#1690 [21:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> if you didnt move it, in Downloads
#1691 [21:48] <mib_0dp5wr> well?
#1692 [21:49] <|Kiikun|> mib_0dp5wr: we are not psychic or omniscient. like WhereIsMySpoon, the exe is where you put it.
#1693 [21:50] <|Kiikun|> mib_0dp5wr: if you have FORGOTTEN or are UNABLE to find where you downloaded it to. download it again and save it to the desktop this time.
#1694 [21:50] <mib_0dp5wr> how do I reinstall? I don't see mindcraft in y control panel programs
#1695 [21:51] <|Kiikun|> mib_0dp5wr: it wont show up there.
#1696 [21:51] <mib_0dp5wr> I have a server and several other directories on my desktop
#1697 [21:52] <mib_0dp5wr> Ok I do I redownload
#1698 [21:52] <|Kiikun|> mib_0dp5wr: you have the ability to access the control panel... and are apparently plannign to run a server... but you CANT FIND A FILE YOU DOWNLOADED?!
#1699 [21:53] <mib_0dp5wr> I don't want to be a server I want a multiplayer client. I choose server after I paid with my credit card
#1700 [21:54] <|Kiikun|> mib_0dp5wr: the game is both single and multiplayer. you click multiplayer then put in the address of a server to play on with other people.
#1701 [21:54] <mib_0dp5wr> Any ideas
#1702 [21:55] <mib_0dp5wr> Yes do I want the client or the server I choose server by mistake I think
#1703 [21:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> client
#1704 [21:55] * bigdog [bigdog@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1705 [21:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> but you dont need to worry about that
#1706 [21:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> just run minecraft.exe
#1707 [21:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> go to multiplayer
#1708 [21:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> type in ip of the server u wanna join
#1709 [21:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> join
#1710 [21:55] * dalecannon_ [dalecannon_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1711 [21:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> nice
#1712 [21:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> :L
#1713 [21:56] <mib_0dp5wr> for some reason I search my hard drive I don't find mindcrat.exe
#1714 [21:57] <|Kiikun|> dalecannon_: um.... cant you pick a different bnc?
#1715 [21:57] <|Kiikun|> mib_0dp5wr: because its M I N E C R A F T
#1716 [21:57] <mib_0dp5wr> What is a bnc?
#1717 [21:58] <|Kiikun|> if you want to got craft minds.. go crack your skull open and use the squishy grey stuff like paydough ~.~
#1718 [21:58] * andrewkm [andrewkm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1719 [21:59] <mib_0dp5wr> I want to de-install and reinstall what do I need to do
#1720 [21:59] * jbritt [jbritt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1721 [21:59] <|Kiikun|> ?? win/reinst
#1722 [21:59] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1723 [21:59] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1724 [21:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol kiik
#1725 [21:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> xD
#1726 [21:59] <|Kiikun|> mib_0dp5wr: note: the only reason you woudl need to go there is if youve alterd the game.
#1727 [22:00] <bigdog> My son tried to download a mod and now when he trys to get onto the game the screen gos black then white and stays that way and it shows he is logged in help
#1728 [22:00] * genshou [genshou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1729 [22:00] * genshou [genshou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1730 [22:00] * jbritt [jbritt@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1731 [22:00] <|Kiikun|> bigdog: does your son play via the browser or the client?
#1732 [22:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> mib_0dp5wr: go to C:\Users\<YOUR_USER_NAME>\Downloads
#1733 [22:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> minecraft.exe is there if you downloaded it
#1734 [22:00] <bigdog> by browser
#1735 [22:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> client >>> browser
#1736 [22:01] <|Kiikun|> bigdog: the weblauncher does NOT like mods. he has to use the client.
#1737 [22:01] <|Kiikun|> !client
#1738 [22:01] * amphibulus [amphibulus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1739 [22:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> mib_0dp5wr - did you find it?
#1740 [22:01] <zelda> can someone help me ive tried everything to try to fix the black screen issue ive updated java ive deleted and reinstalled the bin file ive updated my video drivers is there anything else i can do?
#1741 [22:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? win/reinst
#1742 [22:02] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1743 [22:02] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1744 [22:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> done that?
#1745 [22:02] * mohawk [mohawk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1746 [22:03] <zelda> wait what?
#1747 [22:03] <|Kiikun|> WhereIsMySpoon ?? forceupdate is easier :P
#1748 [22:03] <|Kiikun|> zelda: have you tried a forceupdate?
#1749 [22:03] <zelda> yeah
#1750 [22:03] <amphibulus> I cant get the game loaded, the game says its loaded but the load screen stays on. please help.
#1751 [22:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> client or browser zelda
#1752 [22:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> wait no thats a silly question
#1753 [22:03] <bigdog> that worked you are the best thank you
#1754 [22:04] <|Kiikun|> bigdog: enjoy :D
#1755 [22:04] <zelda> so what should i do now than? im so confuzzled
#1756 [22:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> zelda did you install 64 bit java (if you're on an x64 os ofc)
#1757 [22:04] <|Kiikun|> zelda: did you install any texture packs?
#1758 [22:04] <zelda> um if you mean updated jave to version 6 than yes
#1759 [22:04] * Freddy [Freddy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1760 [22:05] <zelda> oh no tex packs
#1761 [22:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> zelda - i mean having 64bit java
#1762 [22:05] <zelda> um im not sure about that
#1763 [22:05] <|Kiikun|> zelda: and he was askign if you installed java 6 64-bit if your OS is 64bit.
#1764 [22:05] <zelda> how do i check
#1765 [22:05] <|Kiikun|> zelda: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, OS/2 Warp, or AmigaOS?
#1766 [22:05] <zelda> xp
#1767 [22:06] <zelda> windows XP
#1768 [22:06] <|Kiikun|> ok ill asume 32bit then. 64bitxp is rare <.<
#1769 [22:06] <zelda> kk
#1770 [22:06] <|Kiikun|> ??> zelda java/version
#1771 [22:06] <VoxelHead> zelda: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1772 [22:06] <VoxelHead> zelda: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1773 [22:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> 64bit xp is shit
#1774 [22:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> it doesnt work at all
#1775 [22:07] <|Kiikun|> WhereIsMySpoon: language :P aubot lieks to kick.
#1776 [22:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> sorry :p
#1777 [22:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> its true though
#1778 [22:07] <|Kiikun|> i know. :3
#1779 [22:07] <zelda> well i checked and it says that i have the latest version of java
#1780 [22:07] <zelda> well i checked and it says that i have the latest version of java
#1781 [22:08] * mib_0dp5wr [mib_0dp5wr@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1782 [22:08] <zelda> version 6 update 30
#1783 [22:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> eh
#1784 [22:08] <hmw> probably 32bit
#1785 [22:08] <|Kiikun|> zelda: ok just wanted to make sure about that. hmm...
#1786 [22:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> well do you have anything you want zelda
#1787 [22:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> worlds?
#1788 [22:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> or you new
#1789 [22:08] <zelda> well i havent done anything on this one
#1790 [22:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> if not i suggest just deleting the whole .minecraft folder and starting again#
#1791 [22:09] <|Kiikun|> zelda: has the game worked previously on this computer?
#1792 [22:09] <zelda> nope
#1793 [22:09] <bigdog> when dose minecraft come out for xbox 360
#1794 [22:09] <|Kiikun|> ^^ was gonna be my next sugestion
#1795 [22:09] <|Kiikun|> bigdog: not sure, as i dont have a 360 :P
#1796 [22:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> bigdog - it already is
#1797 [22:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> unofficially
#1798 [22:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> iirc
#1799 [22:10] <|Kiikun|> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Xbox_Edition
#1800 [22:10] <bigdog> do you think i could find it at gamestop
#1801 [22:10] <zelda> sop is there something that i can fix for my computer?
#1802 [22:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> zelda, delete the whole .minecraft folder
#1803 [22:11] <|Kiikun|> zelda: delete the entire .minecraft folder and try again.
#1804 [22:11] <zelda> ok so wouldi have to download it from the website or just open minecraft after that
#1805 [22:12] <|Kiikun|> zelda: you dont have to delete the clientexe... just the .minecraft folder.
#1806 [22:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> ye
#1807 [22:12] <zelda> kk
#1808 [22:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> then just run it again
#1809 [22:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> it will dl it all
#1810 [22:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> then try :)
#1811 [22:14] <zelda> um well i cant find the .minecraft folder
#1812 [22:14] * |Kiikun| gets wiimote and debates between netflix anime or Skyward Sword....
#1812 [22:14] <|Kiikun|> zelda: %appdata%
#1813 [22:14] <zelda> thanks
#1814 [22:16] * dalecannon [dalecannon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1815 [22:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> someone ban him
#1816 [22:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> :L
#1817 [22:17] <|Kiikun|> i would have if i could. not going to flood the channel with kicks.
#1818 [22:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> aye
#1819 [22:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> zelda - hows it going?
#1820 [22:18] * VoxelHead kicked dalecannon from #minecrafthelp (Reason: alecannon :Banned: Patently offensive virtual host. Permenant ban from this vhost.)
#1821 [22:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah good
#1822 [22:18] <|Kiikun|> thank you mysterious vox-user!
#1823 [22:18] <zelda> updating
#1824 [22:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> cool
#1825 [22:19] <zelda> just got black screen
#1826 [22:19] <zelda> ='(
#1827 [22:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> hm
#1828 [22:19] <|Kiikun|> ok that removes java and the minecraft files as the prob..
#1829 [22:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> did you try completely reinstalling java?
#1830 [22:19] <|Kiikun|> no hs_err_pid files being created?
#1831 [22:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> as in both from the installer and removing the java folder?
#1832 [22:20] * guacamole [guacamole@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1833 [22:20] <|Kiikun|> WhereIsMySpoon: no messing with java folder!!!!!
#1834 [22:20] <zelda> actully someone told me that and it didnt work
#1835 [22:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> why not
#1836 [22:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> it wasnt there before jhava was installed
#1837 [22:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> *java
#1838 [22:20] <guacamole> my game wont run
#1839 [22:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> guacamole - please provide some more info as to why
#1840 [22:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> whats happening
#1841 [22:21] <guacamole> i start the game then a white screen pop out and it stays and id doesnot run
#1842 [22:21] * mib_a0vray [mib_a0vray@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1843 [22:22] <zelda> so is there anything else i can do or are you guys stumped like me
#1844 [22:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? win/reinst
#1845 [22:22] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1846 [22:22] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1847 [22:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> tht was for guac
#1848 [22:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> no idea zelda
#1849 [22:22] <zelda> kk
#1850 [22:22] <|Kiikun|> zelda: hmm...
#1851 [22:22] <|Kiikun|> zelda: try this...
#1852 [22:22] <|Kiikun|> :ts/launcher
#1853 [22:22] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#1854 [22:22] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#1855 [22:23] <zelda> thanks
#1856 [22:24] <|Kiikun|> zelda: after it makes its log, put it on pastebin and /msg me the link
#1857 [22:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> /illegal... :P
#1858 [22:25] <bigdog> how do you play with firends
#1859 [22:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> put them in the fire?
#1860 [22:25] <|Kiikun|> bigdog: you need to find or start a server that you can all play on
#1861 [22:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> whats firends
#1862 [22:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> O.o
#1863 [22:26] <|Kiikun|> WhereIsMySpoon: its 'technicly' illegal in the fact that wug is redistributing the launcher and thats against the Terms of Use. thought i think weve gotten a provisional ok for it
#1864 [22:26] <bigdog> how do you make one
#1865 [22:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh isee
#1866 [22:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> :)
#1867 [22:26] <|Kiikun|> ?? smp/serversetup
#1868 [22:26] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: Lots of information here:
#1869 [22:26] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1870 [22:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> im off, cya
#1871 [22:27] * |Kiikun| goes back to watchign anime
#1871 [22:28] <bigdog> looks to hard
#1872 [22:30] <|Kiikun|> bigdog: its a bit advanced.
#1873 [22:30] <|Kiikun|> ?? smp/servers
#1874 [22:30] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1875 [22:30] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1876 [22:32] * keret [keret@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1877 [22:33] * xorcon [xorcon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1878 [22:33] <keret> I have a mac and the game won't load.
#1879 [22:33] <|Kiikun|> keret: classic or full version?
#1880 [22:33] <hmw> keret: You still trying to play Classic?
#1881 [22:33] <keret> full version
#1882 [22:34] <keret> no
#1883 [22:34] <|Kiikun|> keret: you need java installed and do the whole app thing.
#1884 [22:34] <keret> thanks
#1885 [22:35] <xorcon> I downloaded minecraft and after downloading the update, a .txt file appears with the name "hs_err_pid1492".
#1886 [22:35] <clarjon1> pastebin the contents of that file, xorcon
#1887 [22:35] <Omega_Guardian> thats the error crash report file
#1888 [22:35] <|Kiikun|> xorcon: paste the co.... whats clarjon1 said :P
#1889 [22:35] <xorcon> i have done that as well
#1890 [22:36] <|Kiikun|> xorcon: link then?
#1891 [22:36] <xorcon> http://pastebin.com/9vsC4e8L
#1892 [22:37] * blinky [blinky@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1893 [22:37] <|Kiikun|> xorcon: you on a toshiba c660?
#1894 [22:37] * Zemedelphos [Zemedelphos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1895 [22:37] <xorcon> zt systems, not sure the model
#1896 [22:38] <blinky> When my game is loading, the screen goes black and i cannot play. Any idea how to fix that
#1897 [22:38] <|Kiikun|> xorcon: update your video drivers then.
#1898 [22:38] <|Kiikun|> ??> xorcon gpu/amd
#1899 [22:38] <VoxelHead> xorcon: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#1900 [22:40] <xorcon> ZT Affinity 7156Mi Desktop PC- - thats my model
#1901 [22:40] <blinky> It worked for the first few times I played and then started going black. I will try the drivers
#1902 [22:40] <xorcon> intel core i7
#1903 [22:41] * |Kiikun| HATES when people ignore the fact a message is directed at someone else
#1903 [22:41] <|Kiikun|> xorcon: and i already told you what you need to do ~.~
#1904 [22:41] <xorcon> ok sorry
#1905 [22:41] <xorcon> ill check back if i have any more problems :)
#1906 [22:42] <bigdog> so i tried going in the nether the game froze i logged out went back in and iwas spawned somewhere out of where i was building
#1907 [22:43] * jackb223 [jackb223@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1908 [22:44] <|Kiikun|> bigdog: that server might have nether problems... its a server issue probably
#1909 [22:44] <jackb223> Good evening :)
#1910 [22:44] <bigdog> ok
#1911 [22:47] * oldtopman [oldtopman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1912 [22:48] <|Kiikun|> would it be bad if i accused certain pebcaks that come here for giving me migranes? <.<
#1913 [22:49] <hmw> yes
#1914 [22:49] <|Kiikun|> aw.
#1915 [22:49] <hmw> I can understand your headache, but remember, you were a newbie once, too.
#1916 [22:50] <hmw> you should not tell them, that they are stupid. You may msg me, if you need to vent ;-)
#1917 [22:50] <|Kiikun|> yes.. but when i cant find something ive downloaded, i usually just redownload it instead of going "TELL ME WHERE IT ISSS!!!"
#1918 [22:50] <hmw> Imagine, they are 7 years old
#1919 [22:50] <jackb223> Not sure if I'm allowed to ask here; but I've been looking around on forums for some nice building server, preferably with an IRC channel. Any suggestions?
#1920 [22:50] <hmw> some of them even are
#1921 [22:50] * Hisui_ [Hisui_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1922 [22:50] <hmw> jackb223: People advertise their servers in the #smp channel, and also: ...
#1923 [22:51] <hmw> ?? smp
#1924 [22:51] <VoxelHead> smp: Survival Multi-Player
#1925 [22:51] <hmw> uhm
#1926 [22:51] <hmw> ?? smp/servers
#1927 [22:51] <|Kiikun|> jackb223: *shamelessly advertizes* #topcraftia has a 'passive' and 'survival' server :D
#1928 [22:51] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1929 [22:51] <jackb223> Alright, thanks, I'll hang out there for a bit, see what happens =).
#1930 [22:51] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1931 [22:52] * WugBot kicked |Kiikun| from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Kiikun| :Kicked by |Kiikun|) (for shamelessly advertizing.)
#1932 [22:52] * |Kiikun| [|Kiikun|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1933 [22:52] <|Kiikun|> :P
#1934 [22:55] * Oerg866_ [Oerg866_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1935 [23:02] * sproing [sproing@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1936 [23:04] <sproing> hi my mom bought an an account under her name and email instead of sending me a gift code is there anything we can do about this? i cant go around under her full name....
#1937 [23:05] * Zemedelphos [Zemedelphos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1938 [23:07] * mib_y3ibr1 [mib_y3ibr1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1939 [23:09] <quiggle> when i dig down really far there is a lot of one stone tht doesnt seem to break at all what is it?
#1940 [23:09] <quiggle> i cant seem to break it
#1941 [23:10] <quiggle> so what should i do
#1942 [23:10] <hmw> bedrock
#1943 [23:10] <DopeGhoti> ?find quiggle minecraft wiki Adminium
#1944 [23:10] <VoxelHead> quiggle -> http://is.gd/QDM5U6
#1945 [23:10] <quiggle> is there anything i can do to break it other than giving me a link?
#1946 [23:12] <DopeGhoti> The link will answer all your questions about this strange material
#1947 [23:12] <DopeGhoti> Including information about its unbreakability and what lies beneath it.
#1948 [23:15] <quiggle> well thts dissapointing so i just start goin back up from my dig?
#1949 [23:15] <DopeGhoti> or dig out laterally, in search of diamond, redstone, and Lapis.
#1950 [23:16] <quiggle> ok how long will those take to break with cobblestone
#1951 [23:16] <quiggle> im actually looking for iron
#1952 [23:16] <DopeGhoti> you'll find iron down there too; don't mine anything other than coal or iron until you have an iron pick
#1953 [23:16] <quiggle> ok will do
#1954 [23:17] * Roy [Roy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1955 [23:17] * Keltinray [Keltinray@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1956 [23:26] <quiggle> would i be more likely to find iron while digging down through a mountain or down from the regular like plain
#1957 [23:31] <DopeGhoti> It's more about how far up from the Adminium you are than it is about how far down from the surface.
#1958 [23:33] <quiggle> about how far up from it should i be do you know?
#1959 [23:33] * AlphaBlend [AlphaBlend@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1960 [23:36] <DopeGhoti> http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2010/09/Mining-levels-in-minecraft.png
#1961 [23:36] <DopeGhoti> ^ old but still useful
#1962 [23:48] * Miner_Dave [Miner_Dave@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp