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#9 [01:08] <LawfulTub> Wug gave me a link to a MCH launcher
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#11 [01:09] <LawfulTub> what am i supposed to to with it
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#13 [01:09] <Sayaka> Not getting a verification email
#14 [01:09] <hmw> http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
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#16 [01:09] <hmw> ah... i read "give"
#17 [01:09] <LawfulTub> yepthats the one
#18 [01:09] <Sayaka> well nevermind then, I guess I was tryin to register when the site was unstable
#19 [01:10] <hmw> Sayaka: how long ago did you send the request?
#20 [01:10] <hmw> Sayaka: how long ago did you send the request?
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#22 [01:10] <helix> Hi! I've recently registered an account, but I haven't received a verification e-mail. It's not in my spam either. Any suggestions?
#23 [01:11] <hmw> helix: How long ago did you send the request?
#24 [01:11] <helix> about 2 hours or so ago
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#26 [01:11] <hmw> ?? accounts
#27 [01:11] <VoxelHead> accounts: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#28 [01:12] <hmw> uhm that was the wrong one
#29 [01:12] <helix> uh
#30 [01:12] <hmw> wait
#31 [01:12] <hmw> ?? account
#32 [01:12] <VoxelHead> account: We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#33 [01:12] <VoxelHead> account: Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#34 [01:12] <hmw> nah
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#36 [01:13] <hmw> well: It might take several hours. Give them a day or so and if you don't get the confirmation mail by then, contact Mojang through the support page linked above
#37 [01:13] <helix> oh, okay. Thanks :)
#38 [01:14] <LawfulTub> What am i supposed to do with those launcher files?
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#40 [01:16] <hmw> LawfulTub: start them?
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#42 [01:17] <LawfulTub> It tries to open them with 7-Zip
#43 [01:17] <hmw> LawfulTub: what OS do you use?
#44 [01:17] <LawfulTub> windows
#45 [01:17] <hmw> looks like you don't have Java installed, then
#46 [01:17] <LawfulTub> I do, but i had 7 zip set to open jar files
#47 [01:18] <Desktop_Gun> need real technical help from hacker gury
#48 [01:18] <Desktop_Gun> guru
#49 [01:19] <Desktop_Gun> how to make a login for the minecraft running off my website
#50 [01:19] <hmw> then you need to re-set that. Try "open with" (if that menu entry doesn't appear in the context menu ["right click menu"], then try shift+right click). Choose something like "Java(TM) Platform SE Binary"
#51 [01:19] <LawfulTub> I got it and it still got an error report
#52 [01:20] <hmw> ??> LawfulTub pastebin
#53 [01:20] <VoxelHead> LawfulTub: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#54 [01:20] <hmw> LawfulTub: please pastebin the whole error
#55 [01:20] <hmw> Desktop_Gun: what are you trying to achieve?
#56 [01:20] <Desktop_Gun> i want to host minecraft from my website
#57 [01:20] <Desktop_Gun> just like minecraft.net
#58 [01:20] <Desktop_Gun> for paid users
#59 [01:21] <Desktop_Gun> that has already paid minecraft
#60 [01:21] <hmw> Desktop_Gun: contact Mojang and ask, if they allow you this. If they do (which I doubt), they can explain
#61 [01:21] <LawfulTub> My minecraft crashed and im tryign to fix it
#62 [01:21] <hmw> LawfulTub: i need the error message. please use pastebin
#63 [01:21] <LawfulTub> ok
#64 [01:22] <Desktop_Gun> i got it to work
#65 [01:22] <Desktop_Gun> but only when my personal information is on my webpage
#66 [01:22] <hmw> Desktop_Gun: what for do you need this feature?
#67 [01:23] <Desktop_Gun> so i can play with my friends on my website
#68 [01:23] <hmw> ah. now I get you.
#69 [01:23] <hmw> I'd simply use an iframe
#70 [01:23] <hmw> and link the original page
#71 [01:24] <LawfulTub> Does that do it, the pastebin
#72 [01:24] <hmw> LawfulTub: I need the resulting link (http://www.pastebin...)
#73 [01:25] <LawfulTub> http://pastebin.com/CX55Hjtn
#74 [01:25] <hmw> Desktop_Gun: The free version ("Classic") does not allow playing on servers, iirc
#75 [01:26] <Desktop_Gun> yes, I know
#76 [01:26] <Desktop_Gun> my friends and I have all purchased minecraft
#77 [01:26] <hmw> Desktop_Gun: I'd just make a page with your server's rules and it's address and let your users connect normally
#78 [01:27] <hmw> (meaning using the downloaded version) - you'd save on bandwidth for your site, while not really loosing something special
#79 [01:28] <hmw> LawfulTub: I do not see the reason for that error. Perhaps the line "at javax.imageio.ImageIO.read" hints to problems with your GPU drivers. Also, your Java version is not up-to-date (but I think, that shouldn't matter in your case). I would try to reinstall the game, then update my GPU drivers.
#80 [01:28] <hmw> ??> win/reinst LawfulTub
#81 [01:28] <hmw> ??> LawfulTub win/reinst
#82 [01:28] <VoxelHead> LawfulTub: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#83 [01:28] <VoxelHead> LawfulTub: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#84 [01:29] <LawfulTub> Does that clear anything?
#85 [01:29] <LawfulTub> Are those files gonna mess anything up?
#86 [01:30] <hmw> LawfulTub: you can "uninstall" Minecraft by deleting this folder. If you want to keep your world(s), just don't delete the saves folder, like explained above. You will not mess up your operating system, worst case is loosing your saves
#87 [01:31] <hmw> Desktop_Gun: I am not sure, but codebase="/game/" looks like it should point to minecraft.net/game/
#88 [01:32] <Desktop_Gun> that does look like a prob
#89 [01:32] <hmw> i am just guessing
#90 [01:33] <Desktop_Gun> did it work on your end?
#91 [01:33] <hmw> still trying
#92 [01:34] <hmw> no
#93 [01:34] <Desktop_Gun> dang
#94 [01:34] <Desktop_Gun> it works on my end :)
#95 [01:34] <hmw> ah now something happens
#96 [01:34] <hmw> it updates, then i get a grey screen
#97 [01:35] <Desktop_Gun> no error to help troubleshoot, thats not nice
#98 [01:35] <hmw> I still think, that feature is not needed. Just let them connect like everybody else does.
#99 [01:36] <Desktop_Gun> lol
#100 [01:36] <LawfulTub> Thanks so much guys it worked, thanks really i most def will use this if i have any other problems
#101 [01:37] <Desktop_Gun> Never Give Up, Never Surrender
#102 [01:37] <hmw> use an iframe, problem solved
#103 [01:38] <Desktop_Gun> what would i link the iframe to?
#104 [01:38] <hmw> the page with the game on minecraft.net
#105 [01:38] <Desktop_Gun> it only comes up after login
#106 [01:39] <hmw> ah, ic
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#109 [01:40] <Desktop_Gun> the ajax automatically take your login information to the next frame
#110 [01:41] <Desktop_Gun> in implements them into the applet
#111 [01:42] <Desktop_Gun> that is where I was hoping to get some direction
#112 [01:42] <hmw> well... that's somewhat tricky. I would do it, if I got payed. You'll figure it out, i guess ;-)
#113 [01:42] <Desktop_Gun> lol
#114 [01:42] <coolostrich65> I have been banned from playing in a server on minecraft for a year. Can you explain why and can it be reset so i can play?
#115 [01:43] <Desktop_Gun> http://desktopgun.ginsync.com
#116 [01:43] <Desktop_Gun> you can play there
#117 [01:43] <|Kiikun|> coolostrich65: you'd need to contact whoever is admining the server to inquire about any bans you recieved.
#118 [01:44] <|Kiikun|> unless it was through mcbans... then they have a website that usually lists reasons
#119 [01:44] <coolostrich65> How do i do that
#120 [01:44] <Desktop_Gun> everyone can join, im out, and thanks for the support hmw
#121 [01:44] <Desktop_Gun> login, then join that server
#122 [01:44] <caymansharp123> hello im having an error when i play minecraft on minecraft launcher it sais i need to update my disk card drivers can any of u help me
#123 [01:45] <|Kiikun|> coolostrich65: dunno. find out how to contact them the same way you learned of the server
#124 [01:45] <hmw> Desktop_Gun: advertising is not allowed in this channel
#125 [01:45] <Desktop_Gun> sry
#126 [01:45] <Desktop_Gun> good day
#127 [01:45] <coolostrich65> ok
#128 [01:45] <hmw> bye
#129 [01:45] <|Kiikun|> caymansharp123: disk card... you mean video card drivers.
#130 [01:45] <caymansharp123> yes
#131 [01:45] <caymansharp123> srry
#132 [01:45] <hmw> ??> pastebin caymansharp123
#133 [01:45] <hmw> ??> caymansharp123 pastebin
#134 [01:45] <VoxelHead> caymansharp123: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#135 [01:45] <hmw> argh... why can't i remember to put the name first
#136 [01:45] <|Kiikun|> caymansharp123: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, Luna/X, or AmigaOS?
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#138 [01:46] <hmw> caymansharp123: please put the error message onto pastebin
#139 [01:46] <caymansharp123> i use windows vista
#140 [01:46] <|Kiikun|> ??> caymansharp123 win/dxdiag
#141 [01:46] <VoxelHead> caymansharp123: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#142 [01:46] <VoxelHead> caymansharp123: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#143 [01:47] <cralor> Hello! I am having issues with what I believe to be the ordering of mods being loaded in ModLoader. Here is my error: http://pastebin.com/ruPb3PZM
#144 [01:47] <cralor> This is server mods
#145 [01:47] <hmw> ??> cralor mods
#146 [01:47] <VoxelHead> cralor: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#147 [01:47] <VoxelHead> cralor: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#148 [01:48] <cralor> ah, my apologies
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#150 [01:48] <hmw> np
#151 [01:52] <caymansharp123> the pastebin is http://pastebin.com/69TfZxbr
#152 [01:54] <|Kiikun|> caymansharp123: . . .
#153 [01:54] * |Kiikun| goes off to play skyward sword now.
#153 [01:56] <|Kiikun|> caymansharp123: if you have a dell, go to dells site and get new video drivers. otherwise figure out what video card you have and go to the chipset manufacturer's site for drivers.
#154 [01:56] <caymansharp123> can u post a link 4 dells site
#155 [01:56] <DopeGhoti> ?find caymansharp123 dell
#156 [01:56] <VoxelHead> caymansharp123 -> http://lmgtfy.com/?l=1&q=dell
#157 [01:57] <|Kiikun|> DopeGhoti: thank you. i shall remember that command (when i forget my alias)
#158 [01:57] <hmw> how do you know, it is a Dell?
#159 [01:58] <DopeGhoti> hmw: it smells like weed?
#160 [01:58] * hmw smirks
#160 [01:58] <|Kiikun|> if he SERIOUSLY cant tell if his computer is a dell or not.. i woulda have kicked him repeatedly until someone removed my wugbot privelages :/
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#163 [02:06] <DopeGhoti> |Kiikun|: it usually obfuscates the URL too, if that matters (:
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#168 [02:45] <skippydippy> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. Where do i go?
#169 [02:47] <DopeGhoti> This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#170 [02:49] <skippydippy> where would i go to update them?
#171 [02:49] <DopeGhoti> That depends upon the video card your computer has.
#172 [02:49] <DopeGhoti> Do you know what that is?
#173 [02:52] <skippydippy> i'm not sure model Asus et2410 all in one core i3 processor
#174 [02:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> skippydippy gpu/intel
#175 [02:53] <VoxelHead> skippydippy: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
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#177 [02:58] <skippydippy> im not sure what to download...
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#179 [03:19] <rymate1234> lol
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#183 [04:05] <TheBadShepperd> xbox
#184 [04:06] <TheBadShepperd> I apolgoize, I meant to CTRL F for that.
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#193 [04:58] <rumpler> I need to update my video drivers!
#194 [04:59] <rumpler> so I need to know how I do this
#195 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Find out what operating system you're on, what video card you have, and go to the video manufacturer's website to download and install it
#196 [05:00] <rumpler> thanks!
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#199 [05:01] <Chr|s> running the client on linux, blank screen issues, im sure you heard it millons of times..how do I fix this?
#200 [05:01] <Valium> whats your commandline?
#201 [05:02] <hmw> Chr|s: Perhaps switching to Sun JRE imstead of OpenJDK
#202 [05:02] <Chr|s> hmw: howd you know!
#203 [05:02] <Chr|s> lol
#204 [05:03] <Chr|s> my arch linux wiki said it works fine
#205 [05:03] <hmw> I am running the game with OpenJDK on Ubuntu/Lucid. Some people had tp switch, though, and it is recommended by Mojang to use Sun's.
#206 [05:03] <Chr|s> yeah, thats what the wiki said
#207 [05:04] <Chr|s> what is the usual blank screen issue? I knew it was quite big a year ago
#208 [05:04] <Chr|s> that is the last time I have been around here
#209 [05:04] <Chr|s> I see a lot of names I remember
#210 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> Terminal say anything?
#211 [05:05] <hmw> I am not sure. Check your video drivers (perhaps errout gives you a hint to GPU problems). Make sure, enough RAM is available to the JRE (Do you use a shared memory GPU?).
#212 [05:06] <Chr|s> GreyVulpine: I will pastebin the output, one sec
#213 [05:06] <hmw> Oh the joy of dealing with someone who knows, what a computer is!
#214 [05:09] <Chr|s> GreyVulpine: http://pastebin.com/9F7uBuaa
#215 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that looks like lwjgl, possibily outdated. Have you manually updated the lwjgl files in your ~/.minecraft folders yet?
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#217 [05:11] <Chr|s> not manually I was able to login and the game started updating, and then blank screen
#218 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Yeah. Most likely fix is to manually download lwjgl's 2.7.1 files (minecraft still includes an outdated 2.4.2 lwjgl with its download), and replace them in your ~/.minecraft/bin/ and ~/.minecraft/bin/natives folders
#219 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Let me dig up a link
#220 [05:13] <Chr|s> ahh you would think they would update that
#221 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Grab the lwjgl-2.7.1.zip at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/java-game-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.7.1/
#222 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Replace the files in the zip's /jar/ and /natives/ folders in your /bin/ and /bin/natives/ folders respectively
#223 [05:14] <Chr|s> thanks I will do this now
#224 [05:14] <mi.comcast.net> Yeah, I've told them repeatedly about lwjgl, no real answer
#225 [05:15] <Chr|s> where do you tell them? type up a quick response and i'll send it on my behalf, it may help lol
#226 [05:16] <Chr|s> lets see if this works though, ims ure it will
#227 [05:16] <Chr|s> you helped me before a year ago
#228 [05:16] <Chr|s> when i was having server issues
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#230 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> Chr|s - I've mentioned it numerous times to notch, and jeb and daniel since last year. It's always been "Yeah, we haven't had time", or "We haven't tested it enough", or "We're looking into it"
#231 [05:17] <Chr|s> ahh
#232 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> lwjgl on cutting edge linux distros like mint and such have problems, especially if they're outdated.
#233 [05:18] <Chr|s> how hard could it be?
#234 [05:18] <Chr|s> yeah I use arch linux, just set it up today. I think im in love
#235 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> The reason I recommend 2.7.1, is that the latest 2.8.x lwjgl has known problems with minecraft
#236 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> So i can understand, but it's been over a year now since people have told Notch and Jeb to update the stinkin' lwjgl files
#237 [05:20] <hmw> One has to wonder, especially when they earn so much. "In the last 24 hours, 60,077 people registered, and 8,195 people bought the game." That makes roughly 160.000 Euros. In one day.
#238 [05:21] * GreyVulpine nods
#238 [05:21] <Chr|s> linux is a minority :(
#239 [05:21] <Chr|s> windows = $$$ basically
#240 [05:21] <hmw> Notch ought to be a real programmer.
#241 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> You'd be surprised at the number of linux/lwjgl problems this channel has seen in the past year
#242 [05:22] <Chr|s> he isn't the lead programmer anymore
#243 [05:22] <hmw> Nah, Minecraft can't surprise me anymore *smirks*
#244 [05:22] <Chr|s> the snowman is awesome haha
#245 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> I can't count how many stinkin toshiba c660 computers have passed through here.
#246 [05:23] <Chr|s> laptops?
#247 [05:23] * GreyVulpine nods
#247 [05:23] <hmw> Someone put a snow golem in my working hall... now I have snow next to my furnace (which is decorated with lava for molten steel) lol
#248 [05:23] <Chr|s> haven't played it in awhile, messed with it a week ago, a lot of new stuff
#249 [05:23] <Chr|s> pretty cool
#250 [05:23] <Chr|s> I hate that ender man
#251 [05:23] <Chr|s> scares the #$%^ out of you
#252 [05:23] <hmw> yeah. But sheep currently don't regrow wool
#253 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> They.. don't?
#254 [05:24] <hmw> Nah. LOL
#255 [05:24] <Chr|s> naked sheep...nice
#256 [05:24] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Chr|s: wait til he griefs you.
#257 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> I'm only just getting back into minecraft as of recently.. haven't played much since beta 1.6 or so
#258 [05:24] <hmw> Apparently there is a Bukkit plugin, that corrects this
#259 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow.
#260 [05:24] <|Kiichan|Schala|> not in 1.0.0.. the weeklys have them regrow by eating grass
#261 [05:24] <Chr|s> |Kiichan|Schala|: really? they will do that
#262 [05:25] <Chr|s> GreyVulpine: same here
#263 [05:25] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Chr|s: endermen pickup and place blocks :P
#264 [05:25] <hmw> I was quite upset, that they published the "persistent animals" feature without regrowing wool... and then call it a 1.0.0 gamma version... argh.
#265 [05:27] <|Kiichan|Schala|> hmw: they had implemented breeding by that point so it was more just to have it done and working best by minecon
#266 [05:27] <hmw> still somewhat lame, how much work could it have been?
#267 [05:28] <hmw> but I am not here to rant :-) I still love the game.
#268 [05:28] * GreyVulpine nods
#268 [05:28] <|Kiichan|Schala|> yup. it is fun watching sheep eat grass too :D
#269 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> The more I'm working with redstone now, the more I love some of the features they put in. Pistons make circuits so much easier
#270 [05:28] <hmw> I am looking forward to this feature. Sounds nice.
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#273 [05:30] <|Kiichan|Schala|> GreyVulpine: i dare you to do something that takes advantage of the fact that pistons are technicly transparent blocks so you can run wire through them without actually powering them
#274 [05:30] * |Kiichan|Schala| snerks
#274 [05:30] <GreyVulpine> Wait, pistons are transparent?
#275 [05:30] <GreyVulpine> They haven't been, when I'm working with them
#276 [05:30] <hmw> the moving part, perhaps
#277 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> I'm still discovering little quirks about pistons, like how they power each other.
#278 [05:31] <|Kiichan|Schala|> huh?
#279 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> If you stack pistons on top, the lower ones don't retract until the ones on top of them do
#280 [05:31] <hmw> have fun getting headaches lol
#281 [05:32] <|Kiichan|Schala|> grey... thats the 'quasiconnectivity' bug.
#282 [05:32] <hmw> but that stack feature is useful
#283 [05:32] <GreyVulpine> Makes for very interesting headaches
#284 [05:32] <hmw> kii i think, it's a real feature, not a disguised bug
#285 [05:33] <|Kiichan|Schala|> what it is is that there power to a block 2 off the piston but the piston doesnt update
#286 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, there's a very definite bug with redstone updates
#287 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> Happens with rails, pistons, and other stuff as well
#288 [05:34] <|Kiichan|Schala|> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Issues/Piston_Quasiconnectivity_Bug
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#290 [05:36] <|Kiichan|Schala|> the powered rail bug was fixed in the 11w49a.
#291 [05:36] <Chr|s> GreyVulpine: I must be doing something wrong, because Im getting the same error and blank screen
#292 [05:36] <|Kiichan|Schala|> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history/Development_versions
#293 [05:36] <Chr|s> I replaced the same file names in the /bin and /bin/native folders
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#295 [05:37] <alex5776> I got an Question
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#298 [05:38] <|Kiichan|Schala|> and we have lots of answers. maybe we can spinn the Wheel Of Random Answers and see if it matches your question? if it doesnt we have to destroy the universe.
#299 [05:39] <GreyVulpine> Chr|s - Could you delete bin and have minecraft redownload those files, and try again?
#300 [05:39] <Chr|s> yeah
#301 [05:41] <Chr|s> GreyVulpine: now I should only be replacing lwjgl.jar files? and all files in natives?
#302 [05:42] <GreyVulpine> Just match up the lwjgl files from the /jar folder to the ones in /.minecraft/bin/, should be like 3 files.
#303 [05:42] <Chr|s> ok
#304 [05:43] <Chr|s> othing in /bin/natives?
#305 [05:43] <Chr|s> nothing*
#306 [05:43] <GreyVulpine> Replace all the files in /natives/
#307 [05:43] <Chr|s> ok
#308 [05:43] <Chr|s> ok here we go
#309 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> If it's not lwjgl, it's java.
#310 [05:44] <Chr|s> must be java
#311 [05:44] <Chr|s> damn java
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#313 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> What java are you running? java -version
#314 [05:45] <Chr|s> openjdk
#315 [05:45] <Chr|s> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea7 2.0)
#316 [05:46] <Chr|s> should I uninstall and go with sun java?
#317 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> Generally, we recommend people use sun Java around here. but googling, it seems the problem is...
#318 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=126112 <--- run fix from 2nd post
#319 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> Looks like arch linux isn't calling the correct java to run minecraft.
#320 [05:48] <Chr|s> ahh thanks for searching man, appreciate your time, going to try this real quick
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#322 [05:51] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: Ah for Arch linux...
#323 [05:51] <Ketsueki> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/opt/java/jre/lib/amd64"
#324 [05:52] <Ketsueki> Well, I run 64 bit, change the last directory as it matters
#325 [05:56] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: Chr|s try this: http://paste2.org/p/1849276
#326 [06:01] <Ketsueki> Night
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#328 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> Ah, thanks for that. Night Ketsueki
#329 [06:05] <Chr|s> doh!
#330 [06:05] <Chr|s> Error: Could not find or load main class net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
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#332 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Erm, make sure you're using the minecraft.jar from the download page, not minecraft.jar from ~/.minecraft/bin
#333 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> One's the actual game, one's the launcher
#334 [06:06] <Chr|s> yeah, don't think I am
#335 [06:07] <Chr|s> going to try it again
#336 [06:07] <Chr|s> still getting same error :(
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#338 [06:09] <Chr|s> well
#339 [06:09] <Chr|s> what the heck
#340 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> Gah, try Ketsueki's launch file
#341 [06:10] <Chr|s> I tried both lol
#342 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> Wait, what? You're still getting the lwjgl error?
#343 [06:11] <Chr|s> Yeah
#344 [06:11] <Chr|s> his I think is for sun java jre
#345 [06:11] * GreyVulpine blinks
#345 [06:17] <Chr|s> ahh how
#346 [06:17] <Chr|s> had to downgrade version of openjdk lol
#347 [06:17] <Chr|s> don't know why but it worked
#348 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> If you were using 7, it's been known to be buggy
#349 [06:19] <Chr|s> yeah
#350 [06:19] <Chr|s> that is probably why then
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#353 [06:30] <Chr|s> right mouse button is suppose to place the blocks right?
#354 [06:30] <Chr|s> for some reason it's not lol
#355 [06:30] <TheNoodle> Do you have a block in your hand?
#356 [06:30] <Chr|s> ahh nvm I entered controls wrong
#357 [06:30] <TheNoodle> lool
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#359 [06:33] <mib_8417hx> hello
#360 [06:33] <mib_8417hx> anyone can help me please ? :(
#361 [06:34] <Chr|s> thanks for the help everyone, im off to bed
#362 [06:34] <mib_8417hx> plz help me :(
#363 [06:34] <Chr|s> mib_8417hx: patience young jedi, the force will be with you soon
#364 [06:35] <Chr|s> might help if you describe the problem you are having so others can better help you
#365 [06:35] <mib_8417hx> OK thank you
#366 [06:35] <mib_8417hx> My problem is : I am using linux and i wan't to run Minecraft ( Windows version) under wine
#367 [06:35] <mib_8417hx> but it says me something java error i haven't
#368 [06:36] <Chr|s> you can run minecraft without wine
#369 [06:36] <mib_8417hx> It says me to download JRE but i have download it already from software center
#370 [06:36] <mib_8417hx> i know :( i like under wine
#371 [06:36] <mib_8417hx> and next problem
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#374 [06:37] <mib_8417hx> i can't play Minecraft classic .. :(
#375 [06:37] <mib_8417hx> It will load and then nothing happens .
#376 [06:37] <Chr|s> I would love to stay to help you, but I am falling asleep, someone should be able to help you soon, hang in there
#377 [06:37] <mib_8417hx> just black screen
#378 [06:37] <mib_8417hx> i am using online version
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#382 [06:44] <mib_8417hx> so how guys
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#385 [06:50] <wikkit> hi just bought minecraft but i cant download it to my desktop and how do you conect to ofter worlds please can someone help me
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#387 [06:53] <wikkit> hello ppl
#388 [06:54] <mib_8417hx> hi
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#390 [06:55] <wikkit> hi just bought minecraft but i cant download it to my desktop and how do you conect to other worlds please can someone help me
#391 [06:57] <hmw> right click the link, choose "save target as" or "save link as" or "save linked page as", depending on your browser. Save it to your Desktop.
#392 [07:00] <mib_8417hx> hmw
#393 [07:00] <mib_8417hx> please
#394 [07:00] <mib_8417hx> how to download minecraft classic ?
#395 [07:00] <mib_8417hx> multiplayer ?
#396 [07:00] <hmw> both not possible
#397 [07:00] <mib_8417hx> omg
#398 [07:00] <mib_8417hx> how to play then free version ? :(
#399 [07:00] <wikkit> hmw what link
#400 [07:00] <mib_8417hx> want test it
#401 [07:00] <hmw> go to page, click classic
#402 [07:01] <mib_8417hx> I am using linux
#403 [07:01] <mib_8417hx> It will load and then nothing happens and black screen .. :(
#404 [07:01] <wikkit> am using windows 7 with opera
#405 [07:01] <hmw> wikkit: there is a download page on minecraft.net.
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#407 [07:03] <hmw> mib_8417hx: make sure, you are using Sun Java 1.6.0_30, update your GPU drivers and perhaps also this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=126112
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#415 [07:28] <zucchini> i cant enter in my minecraft
#416 [07:29] <wikkit> hmw thanks yep got it now how do i connect to multiplayer its asking for server address on direct connect and servers name nad address on add server
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#418 [07:29] <hmw> wikkit: you will have to enter a server address.
#419 [07:29] <hmw> ??> smp/servers
#420 [07:29] <hmw> ??> wikkit smp/servers
#421 [07:29] <VoxelHead> wikkit: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#422 [07:29] <VoxelHead> wikkit: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
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#425 [07:31] <mib_p9izwd> hi
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#427 [07:33] <johnii> Question: If there is no one on a stock minecraft server (like the one I'm running for my five friends) does time stop? It seems to me that if only one person is logged on sleeping in the bed advances time as it does in single player. Does anyone know this? It's a timey whimey question I know...
#428 [07:34] <hmw> the question is somewhat unlcear. The bed works as in Single Player, except all users have to go to bed in order to skip the night
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#430 [07:35] <johnii> hmw, ok! that's one question down. Thanks! The other was simply…if no one is logged on, does time still progress (night, day, plants growing, etc etc etc)
#431 [07:35] <hmw> Plants/Mobs and everything "active" is only active in a certain radius around a player. If there is nobody logged on, nothing will change (except perhaps the time of day)
#432 [07:36] <hmw> to be precise: A certain amount of chunks around every player is loaded. Every loaded chunk will be simulated (=made active)
#433 [07:37] <johnii> hmmmm, ok, cool, that answers it! Cheers
#434 [07:37] <johnii> :D
#435 [07:39] <zucchini> my Minecraft does not work and when I start out blank and big MISINGTEX
#436 [07:40] <hmw> johnii: If you drop items to the floor, they will decay after 5 minutes (Not sure about the amount of time, though). But if you force a chunk to be unloaded (e.g. by walking far away or logging out), the decay will be paused until the chunk becomes active again. This might be useful to know in some situations.
#437 [07:40] <johnii> oh….wait, hmw….does that mean that if I say plant wheat, and then travel a long long way away it won't grow?
#438 [07:40] <hmw> johnii: correct
#439 [07:40] <johnii> sweet! hmw, you I should have just come here I've been trying to figure this out on my own for ages
#440 [07:40] <johnii> THANK YOU
#441 [07:40] <hmw> johnii: read the minecraft wiki, tons of info there
#442 [07:41] <hmw> zucchini: sounds like you tried to install a texture pack?
#443 [07:41] <johnii> hmw: it's my bible…I've just been searching as I have specific question, maybe a more comprehensive read is in order
#444 [07:41] <hmw> it's huge, admitted :-)
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#446 [07:42] <johnii> it's awesome is what it is…I've never seen a better community driven wiki, it has literally never let me down
#447 [07:43] <mib_csp3vp> hi
#448 [07:43] <johnii> sometimes I don't know exactly how to find the info in it…the right question to ask
#449 [07:43] <hmw> I was impressed, too. Quite detailed... well... there are millions of users.
#450 [07:43] <hmw> mib_csp3vp: hi
#451 [07:43] <johnii> but the answers are always there!
#452 [07:44] <hmw> johnii: http://www.minecraft.net/stats
#453 [07:45] <mib_csp3vp> i was just on an other page and hwm posted a list of links so i could get servers do any of you have the links so i can start multiplaying
#454 [07:45] <TheNoodle> ??> mib_csp3vp smp
#455 [07:45] <VoxelHead> mib_csp3vp: (smp) Survival Multi-Player
#456 [07:45] <TheNoodle> ??> mib_csp3vp servers
#457 [07:45] <hmw> ?? smp/servers
#458 [07:45] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#459 [07:45] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#460 [07:45] <TheNoodle> there you go.
#461 [07:45] <TheNoodle> No idea why it's both :/
#462 [07:46] <mib_csp3vp> voxe thats the one thank you
#463 [07:46] <hmw> thank me *grins*
#464 [07:46] <hmw> VoxelHead is a bot
#465 [07:47] <mib_csp3vp> ahh there you are thankyou hmw
#466 [07:47] <hmw> perhaps we should thank the guy, who made that bot. Btw., who is VoxelHead's owner?
#467 [07:47] <mib_csp3vp> hmw thankyou
#468 [07:49] <TheNoodle> hmw, DopeGhoti.
#469 [07:50] <mib_8417hx> anyone can help me |?
#470 [07:51] <hmw> ?? ask
#471 [07:51] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#472 [07:51] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#473 [07:51] <mib_8417hx> I am sorry :(
#474 [07:51] <mib_8417hx> I have problem
#475 [07:51] <mib_8417hx> how to run minecraft under wine ( DOn't ask why i want it please :) )
#476 [07:52] <hmw> mib_8417hx: this is a question for your OS's support forum/channel. Please, tell me why, you made me curious.
#477 [07:52] <mib_8417hx> hm ..
#478 [07:52] <mib_8417hx> :(
#479 [07:52] <mib_8417hx> because
#480 [07:53] <hmw> don't use ENTER as punctuation. VoxelHead will gag you *g*
#481 [07:53] <mib_8417hx> hm
#482 [07:53] <mib_8417hx> please
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#484 [07:53] <mib_8417hx> next question
#485 [07:53] <hmw> I have no idea, how to. You'd need to install Java and I have absolutely no idea how the GPU drivers will do with wine.
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#487 [07:54] <mib_8417hx> why i can't play minecraft classic
#488 [07:54] <mib_8417hx> it will load but then stop and black screen ..
#489 [07:54] <mib_8417hx> and nothing happens
#490 [07:54] <Morrolan> Try to clear the cache / temporary files of your browser.
#491 [07:54] <hmw> maybe this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=126112 - also update Java (Sun 1.6.0_30), update GPU drivers
#492 [07:55] <mib_csp3vp> hmw can youb personaly sugest a server
#493 [07:55] <hmw> not really. there are so many.
#494 [07:55] <Morrolan> SMP or classic?
#495 [07:55] <Morrolan> As for smp smp/servers is worth taking a look.
#496 [07:56] <hmw> i gave him the list already
#497 [07:56] <Morrolan> Oh, ok. :D
#498 [07:56] <Morrolan> mib_8417hx: Say, you aren't using Mac OSX, right?
#499 [07:59] <mib_8417hx> yes i am using linux
#500 [08:00] <Morrolan> Ok, then that is fine, since Classic doesn't work on Mac OSX.
#501 [08:00] <Morrolan> In this case I can only direct you to this thread: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-40.html
#502 [08:01] <mib_8417hx> i am using Linux kUbuntu
#503 [08:01] <Morrolan> Basically: reinstalling Java, updating GPU drivers and wiping your browser's temp files is what you could try.
#504 [08:01] <mib_8417hx> how
#505 [08:01] <mib_8417hx> -.-
#506 [08:02] <mib_csp3vp> hmw kk thanks and i bid you all ferwell
#507 [08:02] <hmw> :)
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#509 [08:02] <Morrolan> Would you mib_guys mind changing your username? It's getting confusgin.
#510 [08:02] <Morrolan> confusgin*
#511 [08:02] <Morrolan> confusing**
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#513 [08:03] <hmw> not as bad as nicks containing a pipe instead of an L or a zero instead of an o. These render TAB autocompletion quite unusable
#514 [08:04] <hmw> And no, I still don't need to buy Viagra. I hate spammers. Really.
#515 [08:05] <Morrolan> D: How can you not buy Viagra on a daily basis? These offers are just sooo cheap, it's worse than steam sales! :P
#516 [08:06] * hmw is short of strangling a certain co-chatter in here
#516 [08:06] <Bluffer94> Hello, I have a Problem with my Minecraft Server. I host a Server on my PC. My Friend and i connected our PC's with LAN. Its an local offline network. We both can connect with the Server ,but sometimes i cant mine and sometimes he cant mine. We are Ops.Where is the Problem
#517 [08:06] <hmw> Bluffer94: sounds like ordinary lag
#518 [08:06] <hmw> Bluffer94: Vanilla MC Server or Bukkit?
#519 [08:07] <Bluffer94> the standart server from minecraft.net
#520 [08:07] <hmw> "can't mine" means the block comes back, or do you mean, you get no blocks to your inventory?
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#522 [08:08] <Bluffer94> the blocks comes back
#523 [08:08] <hmw> since you are OPs, it's likely lag. Perhaps your server has little RAM or a weak CPU?
#524 [08:09] <Bluffer94> i5 2cores 2,5ghz 4gb ram...only 2 players
#525 [08:09] <Morrolan> Do you get many "Can't keep up" messages in the console? If yes then it is most likely lag. If not it might still be lag.
#526 [08:09] <Bluffer94> no there arent Cant keep up messages
#527 [08:09] <hmw> the network might be clogged with download streams
#528 [08:10] <Morrolan> You could try to launch it with additional RAM, but apart from that I wouldn't know what to look for.
#529 [08:10] <Morrolan> Oh, that could be the case as well I guess.
#530 [08:10] <hmw> ^
#531 [08:11] <Bluffer94> 1 year ago ...it worked...of course with 1.4 or 1.5...but it workes woth the same RAM and CPU
#532 [08:11] <Bluffer94> *worked
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#534 [08:15] <hmw> sorry, no idea. This is not a common problem in this channel - usually they are not OP and near Spawn
#535 [08:16] <GreyVulpine> Check client's mods, check firewall/security software, check networking. Is he hosting it on wireless? Wired? Any network issues?
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#537 [08:35] <Morrolan> Stack overflow it seems.
#538 [08:36] <hmw> ?
#539 [08:37] <hmw> coffee.sys not found. sysop halted.
#540 [08:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
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#542 [08:52] <LimEBoy> Can anybody help me with the OptiFine mod? it glitches on my server, so it gets wierd... i can see though stuff and shit
#543 [08:53] <hmw> ?? mods
#544 [08:53] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#545 [08:53] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
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#547 [08:54] <LimEBoy> okay... just wanted to check if anybody had the problem :/
#548 [08:54] <LittleKrieger> i got a problem
#549 [08:55] <LittleKrieger> i played in my singleplayerworld then minecraft freezed. i hat to close it via taskmanager. since then minecraft freezes everytime i want to open the world
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#551 [08:55] <LittleKrieger> and it is a world i dont want to give up
#552 [08:56] <Morrolan> hmw: Oh, since Grey asked that guy loads of questions, and minutes later he left without having said anything. ;)
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#554 [08:57] <hmw> LittleKrieger: Perhaps you can repair it with MCEdit
#555 [08:57] <hmw> Morrolan: you relating to the "stack overflow"??
#556 [08:57] <LittleKrieger> ok, how?
#557 [08:57] <Morrolan> Yea.
#558 [08:57] <hmw> LittleKrieger: No idea, you will have to ask the almighty search engine
#559 [08:57] <LittleKrieger> ok..
#560 [08:57] <Morrolan> LittleKrieger: Just download MCEdit, open the world and save it again.
#561 [08:57] <Morrolan> Has been known to fix quite some issues.
#562 [08:58] <hmw> hah. that easy
#563 [08:58] <Morrolan> If that doesn't work there's a website somewhere where users offer you to fix saves, maybe I can find it.
#564 [08:58] <hmw> I think, it also has some special repair functions
#565 [08:59] <LittleKrieger> btw how to change the color of your letters?
#566 [08:59] <LittleKrieger> here
#567 [09:00] <Morrolan> THat'll be an option in your client. Many channels block colour codes though.
#568 [09:00] <Morrolan> hmw: Yea, I stumbled across that one too once. No clue what it does but it surely can't hurt. .)
#569 [09:00] <Morrolan> :) *
#570 [09:00] <LittleKrieger> test
#571 [09:01] <LittleKrieger> i opened the world with mcedit, now mcedit freezes...
#572 [09:02] <Morrolan> http://mcsaver.net/ <- that is the site I was talking about earlier, you could try to submit your savegame there.
#573 [09:02] <LittleKrieger> ok i will try it
#574 [09:03] <LittleKrieger> thx
#575 [09:03] <Morrolan> ??< index
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#577 [09:04] <Morrolan> ??< corruptedsaverecovery
#578 [09:04] <Morrolan> ??< nullsave
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#582 [09:28] <Wazap> hey guys can someone help me with some server issues
#583 [09:28] <Morrolan> Just ask and you'll see whether someone can.
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#585 [09:31] <lilybet> vorei comprare il gioco ma non o la carta gusta x pagare
#586 [09:31] <Wazap> Ok so... Me and my cousin are trying to make our own private server to play on but he can't connect to my server for some reason. Im using Bukkit currently but I've tried with Vanilla to and he still cant connect. We have the same versions of the game and we are playing on the latest build ... The thing that's really weird is that the server is not recognizing him and it's not showing him in the server log
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#589 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> Wazap - Are you both in the same house?
#590 [09:33] <Wazap> no
#591 [09:33] <Wazap> different cities
#592 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> Then, I assume you're hosting this at your house. Have you port forwarded your router?
#593 [09:33] <Wazap> dont think so but I didnt have to
#594 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> Why didn't you have to?
#595 [09:33] <Wazap> we used to play with no problems
#596 [09:34] <Wazap> with the recent updates this thing occured
#597 [09:34] <Wazap> i have no idea why
#598 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> Wazap - Is your computer hooked up directly to your modem?
#599 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> What ip address does your computer currently have?
#600 [09:34] <Wazap> No, im using Wi-fi
#601 [09:34] <ladyinred_888> please help, i purchase this game. using direct debit, when i click confirm and pay. this was come out.. Unfortunately we are unable to process this transaction. you may cancel your payment or choose another method
#602 [09:34] <Wazap> My ip is 192.168.1.2
#603 [09:35] <Wazap> the server is currently on
#604 [09:35] <Wazap> and im inside its just that he cant enter
#605 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> Wazap - That is a local IP address. Your friend won't be able to connect to your computer from outside your house
#606 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> ladyinred_888 - Then either your bank denied the payment, or the payment provider did. Try calling your bank to see if they're denying the payment for some reason. Also, try paying with paypal, we usually see better reliabilty from them
#607 [09:35] <Wazap> yeah I tried with this one too 95.42.90.50
#608 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> Wazap - If you didn't port forward your router, nobody outside your house can connect to your server
#609 [09:36] <ladyinred_888> thanks for the info..
#610 [09:36] <Wazap> but how was I able to play with him before without doing that
#611 [09:36] <Wazap> that's what's bugging me
#612 [09:36] <Wazap> could it be something else
#613 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> Wazap - I can be sure that you did not, unless you used some sort of VPN software, or you two were in the same house
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#615 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> Wazap - You'll need to go to http://192.168.1.1 via your browser to connect to your router. Log in, and configure port forwarding. The minecraft server uses port 25565/TCP. Forward that to your 192.168.1.2 address and give him your public ip address of the 95.x.y.z
#616 [09:38] <lilybet> esiste un altro modo x comprare il gioco tipo un negozzio x giochi
#617 [09:38] <SmexyTrixie> can anyone help me here?
#618 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> SmexyTrixie - With?
#619 [09:39] <Wazap> oh hell i hate doing that... I only managed to log in once and that was by scavenging the internet for some random usernames and passes on the forums for my router
#620 [09:39] <SmexyTrixie> I always get stuck in Minecraft
#621 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> Wazap - That's the only way of configuring your router, unfortunately.
#622 [09:39] <SmexyTrixie> and I need to press ctrl alt del to relog
#623 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> SmexyTrixie - "Stuck" how
#624 [09:40] <SmexyTrixie> Game freezes in 3mins from the time I log in
#625 [09:40] <SmexyTrixie> It happened to me many times today
#626 [09:41] <GreyVulpine> SmexyTrixie - What operating system are you on? Has this always happened before?
#627 [09:41] <SmexyTrixie> Yeah. Im using win7 32bit now
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#629 [09:41] <SmexyTrixie> I had this problem before too in winxp
#630 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> SmexyTrixie - Are you using any mods? Any HD texture packs? Have you modified minecraft at all before?
#631 [09:43] <SmexyTrixie> I used HD texture packs but I removed it to look if I have the same problem and it still freeze
#632 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> SmexyTrixie - Have you tried a complete uninstall and reinstall of minecraft? Went into your %appdata%/.minecraft directory and cleared out everything except for your saves, as well as redownloading the launcher fresh from minecraft.net/download?
#633 [09:45] <SmexyTrixie> I done that already but still the same
#634 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> Then try uninstalling java completely from your computer using window's control panel, and reinstall it from java.com -- Make sure you're usigng java 6
#635 [09:46] <SmexyTrixie> Im done doing that too
#636 [09:47] <SmexyTrixie> I run server
#637 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry...?
#638 [09:47] <SmexyTrixie> and it uses 1gb of ram so the minecraft and I have 4gb of ram
#639 [09:48] <SmexyTrixie> I'm juz telling u that I run server, just in case it has to do with my problem
#640 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried just running minecraft by itself, with no mods, and a fresh install of it, and java?
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#642 [09:49] <Happeningman> Hello guys
#643 [09:49] <Happeningman> Um im dissapointed with the game, is there someway i can get money back?
#644 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> Refund policy can be found at minecraft.net/support --> under payment/refund
#645 [09:50] <SmexyTrixie> Yeah I did that too already
#646 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> SmexyTrixie - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#647 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> ??> SmexyTrixie win/dxdiag
#648 [09:51] <VoxelHead> SmexyTrixie: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#649 [09:51] <VoxelHead> SmexyTrixie: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#650 [09:51] <SmexyTrixie> Gimmie a sec
#651 [09:52] <Happeningman> So you mean i cant get a refund -.-
#652 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> Happeningman - Yes
#653 [09:54] <SmexyTrixie> http://pastebin.com/DTGwMXa8
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#655 [09:55] <SmexyTrixie> Have u seen the dxdiag?
#656 [09:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes, I'm looking at it right now, one moment
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#658 [09:57] <SmexyTrixie> Before I played for 1-2hrs and it was ok but now I cann play for few mins only
#659 [09:59] <GreyVulpine> Looks like you're running Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit. With 32 bit java, there are memory addressing issues. Have you tried turning down some of the video settings in minecraft, particularly the view distance from far to normal, see if that helps any?
#660 [10:02] <SmexyTrixie> I wil look in the game
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#662 [10:05] <Happeningman> fucking shit face
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#664 [10:07] <SmexyTrixie> Aw its still the same :(
#665 [10:08] <SmexyTrixie> In render distance I put Normal and in Particles I put Decreased
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#667 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> SmexyTrixie - Hmm. Does the computer lock up, or just the application?
#668 [10:12] <SmexyTrixie> Just the game
#669 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> Don't know what else to suggest here.
#670 [10:15] <SmexyTrixie> I have another question.
#671 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#672 [10:18] <SmexyTrixie> As what I've said earlier, I have server in Minecraft (Bukkit) and it uses 1gb of ram and 1gb also for Minecraft. I received 2 messages from MInecraft saying "out of memory". Does it has something to do with my problem?
#673 [10:18] <SmexyTrixie> I checked also in singleplayer and game stucked also
#674 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> It could be
#675 [10:20] <SmexyTrixie> So I will need to do?
#676 [10:21] <SmexyTrixie> *So what I
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#678 [10:22] <singui> Happy new year every body.... here is my question:
#679 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> Again SmexyTrixie, we've pretty much covered the most common issues that can be easily remedied.
#680 [10:23] <singui> My two sons have been looking at this game for quite a while....they both have there computer, and I wondering if by downloading the game they both can play it on two different computer?
#681 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> Not at the same time, no
#682 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to purchase two seperate accounts
#683 [10:24] <singui> 40 Dollars!!!.....I'm not quite ready for that!!!!
#684 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> Much better bargain than 60 dollars for one new game at any store
#685 [10:26] <SmexyTrixie> Grey, I don't have that problem before but when I installed the version 1.0.0 the problem started.
#686 [10:26] <singui> thank you...It's worth it, I'm sure just a lot of money
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#688 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> singui - It definitely is.
#689 [10:28] <singui> Is that game accessible for a 9 years old?
#690 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> singui - Very
#691 [10:28] <singui> soory for my english I'm french
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#693 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> singui - Check out this website, for a teacher that uses minecraft in class for youngsters: http://minecraftteacher.net/
#694 [10:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> you're doing fine ^^
#695 [10:29] <singui> Greyvulpine, you sound like a good seller!!! I'm still wondering I'm gonna look at this site!!! thanks
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#698 [10:34] <singui> an other question: my 12 years old, has a new computer, but my 9 years old son has an old one, will he be frustrated? by a lack of speed?
#699 [10:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> doubt it, as long as your pc has 2gb of ram
#700 [10:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> and a non-ancient cpu
#701 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> singui - If the computer is too old, there can be a concern that it won't be able to run minecraft well.
#702 [10:36] <singui> what are the specifications then?
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#704 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> We recommend a computer that has at least a discrete/dedicated video card, with no less than 1-1.5 gigabytes of RAM
#705 [10:38] <singui> thank you have a nicie day
#706 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> To you as well.
#707 [10:38] <BlueRaven> hello. I'm having problems running minecraft on my new computer. I Just recently updated my video card drivers, but after they were updated, for some reason minecraft will no longer run. It just stays frozen on the title screen and eventually quits. Nothing shows up in the CMD when I run it from there. Help please?
#708 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> BlueRaven - Do you get any error reports? Any files named hs_err_pid that generate where you have the launcher?
#709 [10:39] <BlueRaven> Nope.
#710 [10:40] <BlueRaven> do you mean in my .minecraft or in my downloads where I have minecraft?
#711 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> How does it quit?
#712 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Your downloads
#713 [10:40] <BlueRaven> what
#714 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> In your downloads folder, where you have minecraft.exe
#715 [10:41] <BlueRaven> it doesnt quit downloading, it downloads just fine bt after it goes to the "mojang" screen it freezes up for a little while, then goes to the main menue screen which is frozen up
#716 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> BlueRaven - Have you tried clearing your .minecraft folder of everything but the 'saves' folder?
#717 [10:42] <BlueRaven> not yet, I'll try it...
#718 [10:44] <BlueRaven> Still the same thing even after downloading :/
#719 [10:44] <BlueRaven> i think it's a problem with my card drivers, because it happened after i installed my video card drivers update
#720 [10:44] <BlueRaven> *video card drivers
#721 [10:45] <GreyVulpine> Could you try downgrading the video card drivers, install an older version then?
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#723 [10:45] <BlueRaven> uh
#724 [10:45] <BlueRaven> I have no clue how to do that :/
#725 [10:45] <mib_6sa7xx> hello, is this the right place to get support?
#726 [10:45] <GreyVulpine> What video card do you have BlueRaven?
#727 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_6sa7xx - For many technical issues with minecraft, yes.
#728 [10:46] <BlueRaven> nvidia geforce 615ose graphics
#729 [10:46] <mib_6sa7xx> it is not exactly a technical problem, more of an addiction
#730 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> BlueRaven - Try going to nvidia.com to find previous versions of your video card's drivers. In the advanced setup when you launch the .exe, it'll ask if you want to perform a clean install.
#731 [10:47] <BlueRaven> ok...
#732 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> That clean install will uninstall previous versions of the driver
#733 [10:49] <mib_6sa7xx> is there are way to prevent minecraft from running?
#734 [10:49] <GreyVulpine> Other than deleting minecraft from your computer and blocking access to minecraft.net?
#735 [10:50] <mib_6sa7xx> yes
#736 [10:50] <BlueRaven> uh, lol?
#737 [10:50] <mib_6sa7xx> i need to block myself in all possible ways
#738 [10:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> xD
#739 [10:50] <GreyVulpine> My previous suggestion will block it in all possible ways, on your computer.
#740 [10:51] <mib_6sa7xx> could you suggest how to block access to minecraft.net
#741 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> Depends on what operating system you're on
#742 [10:51] <BlueRaven> uh
#743 [10:51] <BlueRaven> Im trying to find my drivers on geforce.com/drivers
#744 [10:52] <BlueRaven> I cant find it in the manual driver search
#745 [10:52] <mib_6sa7xx> windows7
#746 [10:52] <BlueRaven> and the automatic driver detection isnt working....
#747 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> Geforce -> scroll down to 6 series.
#748 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> Then scroll down to your 6150
#749 [10:52] <BlueRaven> there is none
#750 [10:52] <BlueRaven> its just 500
#751 [10:52] <BlueRaven> 500 series
#752 [10:53] <BlueRaven> and gtx 590
#753 [10:53] <BlueRaven> oh
#754 [10:53] <BlueRaven> wait
#755 [10:53] <BlueRaven> got it nvm
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#757 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> mib_6sa7xx - Are you absolutely sure you want to do this? It's reversible... but I just want to make sure.
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#759 [10:55] <BlueRaven> Well, I'm pretty sure this is the right one... http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/38915
#760 [10:55] <kendle> sorry, i got disconnected, I was asking about the procedure to disable minecraft.net
#761 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> mib_6sa7xx - Are you absolutely sure you want to do this? It's reversible... but I just want to make sure.
#762 [10:55] <kendle> yes
#763 [10:56] <BlueRaven> actually here http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/38916
#764 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> BlueRaven - That looks right, if you updated to that and got problems, try going to beta/legacy drivers search on the left side
#765 [10:57] <BlueRaven> is there a way i can tell if i updated to that?
#766 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> BlueRaven - dxdiag -> display properties. There, you can check your driver version
#767 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> kendle - Alright. Go to your start menu, go to all programs. Then Accessories. Look for "Notepad". Right click on it and choose "Run as administrator"
#768 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> kendle - When you have notepad open, please tell me
#769 [10:58] <kendle> done
#770 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> Go to File -> open -> in the filename field, put in: %systemroot%\System32\drivers\etc\hosts
#771 [10:59] <BlueRaven> uh... there is no display properties, just properties, is that what you mean?
#772 [10:59] <BlueRaven> er Dispaly
#773 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> BlueRaven - Er, right
#774 [10:59] <BlueRaven> *display
#775 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> kendle - Got that file open?
#776 [11:00] <kendle> yea
#777 [11:00] <BlueRaven> so it says my version is 8.17.12.6684...
#778 [11:00] <BlueRaven> and on the site it says the newest is 285.62
#779 [11:01] <BlueRaven> ...Did I not get the newest version when updating or am i on the wrong page X-X
#780 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> kendle - At the very end, make a new line with: 127.0.0.1 minecraft.net
#781 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> with a tab between 127.0.0.1 and minecraft.net
#782 [11:02] <kendle> done
#783 [11:02] <GreyVulpine> kendle - Save it. Then try going to minecraft.net
#784 [11:03] <kendle> works great, will that prevent me from opening anything relating to that domain?
#785 [11:03] <GreyVulpine> Basically, yes.
#786 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> If you delete minecraft, there's absolutely no way to go back to minecraft.net to redownload it, or to log into minecraft.net via the launcher
#787 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> If you deleted the minecraft launcher as well as the .minecraft files in %appdata%/.minecraft, there's no way to redownload those files, even to play offline
#788 [11:04] <kendle> thanks so much for the help
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#791 [11:05] <kendle> i see, how do you put the username in chat?
#792 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry, username in chat?
#793 [11:05] <kendle> like when you chat you put my usename
#794 [11:05] <kendle> in the same line
#795 [11:06] <GreyVulpine> Type it in?
#796 [11:06] <kendle> GreyVulpine like this?
#797 [11:06] <kendle> oh
#798 [11:06] <GreyVulpine> Like that.
#799 [11:06] <kendle> thanks
#800 [11:06] <BlueRaven> oh also another thing i should mension is that i can run any other game just fine (not with the best preformance, but this computer isnt exactly the best)
#801 [11:06] <BlueRaven> It's only minecraft that does this
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#805 [11:13] <SinZ> uhh, why would you want to set minecraft.net to 127.0.0.1
#806 [11:13] <GreyVulpine> They asked how to block minecraft from running. *cough*
#807 [11:13] <SinZ> ...I wonder why
#808 [11:14] <SinZ> and I think he meant /me before, when he said username in chat
#809 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> <kendle> like when you chat you put my usename
#810 [11:15] <GreyVulpine> SinZ - Like this.
#811 [11:15] <timthree> does anyone know if minecraft multiplayer mode is down?
#812 [11:15] <GreyVulpine> Erm, shouldn't be.. one moment
#813 [11:15] <timthree> thnx\
#814 [11:16] <SinZ> `paid S1NZ
#815 [11:16] <SinZ> yep loginservers down
#816 [11:16] <GreyVulpine> Login server's up..
#817 [11:16] <GreyVulpine> Session server is up
#818 [11:16] <SinZ> ah
#819 [11:16] <timthree> whew thank you for checking before i reinstalled :)
#820 [11:16] <SinZ> bots not here
#821 [11:16] <GreyVulpine> No, everything seems fine from here.
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#824 [11:17] <timthree> hmm i can see the servers running but just says connecting forever
#825 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> Could you try connecting to mc.minecraftirc.net?
#826 [11:18] <BlueRaven> well that fixed it
#827 [11:18] <timthree> i will try now
#828 [11:18] <BlueRaven> it might have just been i needed to restart
#829 [11:18] <SinZ> ima update the minecraft plugin on my bot, then bring bot here
#830 [11:19] <timthree> when i try at mc.minecraftirc.net it just says connecting and thats it
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#832 [11:19] <SinZ> `paid S1NZ
#833 [11:19] <SinZBot> S1NZ has paid for Minecraft, I'll give them a hug some other time!
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#835 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> timthree - Hmm, try a Force Update through your launcher's options menu?
#836 [11:20] <timthree> ok thankx ill try
#837 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> That worked...
#838 [11:21] <timthree> ty all that worked for me
#839 [11:22] <mib_17hfgg> I bought minecraft but it said I wasn't premium.
#840 [11:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> `paid mib_17hfgg
#841 [11:22] <SinZBot> mib_17hfgg hasn't paid for Minecraft!, That bastard!
#842 [11:22] <mib_17hfgg> I paid
#843 [11:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> maybe you need to give it a few moments
#844 [11:23] <SinZ> WhereisMyspoon why would he buy an account with a mibbit default nickname
#845 [11:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> eh tahts true
#846 [11:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> doh
#847 [11:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> needs to be their mc username
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#849 [11:27] <SmexyTrixie> I come back again to ask help
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#852 [11:41] <Swanmark> Gussiiii :3
#853 [11:41] <Swanmark> oh qwwrong channel
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#858 [11:50] <mib_6s06gz> bhbhjbhjbhjbhjbhjbjhbhjbjbhjjhbbhjjbbhjjhbbhjjhbbhjhbbbbbhjjhbbhjjhbhbhjhjbbhjjjh bn jbkjn
#859 [11:50] <mib_6s06gz> i want to play minecraft
#860 [11:52] <Morrolan> Now that was an interesting guy.
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#869 [12:43] <nullspace> Hello channel. Love minecraft, decided to get it set up on a remote server. Followed the instructions, and RTFM. Seems like i got it all set up, so i run the command, and it shows the game starting. "setting up, loadinglevel, now accepting input, to connect directly type blah blah". I use the url supplied and it gives me "connecting" and then seems to time out and wont connect.
#870 [12:43] <nullspace> if anyone has any suggestions, im sure im missing something stupid, lemme know and thank you in advance
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#875 [12:51] <Morrolan> nullspace: I assume this machine is set up to accept connections on the specified port?
#876 [12:51] <nullspace> you know... lol
#877 [12:51] <Morrolan> Also, you do want to set up a classic server, right?
#878 [12:51] <nullspace> i knew it might be something stupid
#879 [12:51] <nullspace> let me set up an exception in the iptables
#880 [12:51] <nullspace> and yes
#881 [12:51] <nullspace> on the classic
#882 [12:51] <Morrolan> Ok. :)
#883 [12:52] <nullspace> ty
#884 [12:54] <nullspace> well, just to rule it out, i stopped the iptables service, and still no go. Let me check my config to make sure i got everything all set up. Just to verify, when connecting, i should use the url that the program gives me right? the readme file has a different url to connect which involves putting in the ip and port into the url, which is fine with me, just wanna make sure im using the
#885 [12:54] <nullspace> right one
#886 [12:58] <nullspace> when i use the ip and port url, i can connect, but i dont know if im actually on my own server
#887 [12:58] <nullspace> and the url changes to the basic /classic/play so im guessing this isnt mine, lol
#888 [12:59] <Diablodoct0r> http://imgur.com/r/funny/hU8SX
#889 [12:59] <Morrolan> Heh, my experience with classic is nigh-zero, so can't tell you much how this URL is set up.
#890 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> You can't join classic servers on the same machine as the one hosting
#891 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> Only way to do that is to turn off uh..
#892 [12:59] <nullspace> yea, thats fine GreyVulpine
#893 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> what's the classic equivalent of online-mode..
#894 [13:00] <nullspace> i actually got this classic server set up on a remote linux box in detroit
#895 [13:00] <nullspace> and im commin out of fl
#896 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay
#897 [13:00] <nullspace> i had it set up once
#898 [13:00] <nullspace> which is why its annoying me now
#899 [13:00] <nullspace> cause i know i got it working
#900 [13:00] <nullspace> lol
#901 [13:00] <Morrolan> Huh, can't connect from the same machine it's hosted on? what a strange thing to happen.
#902 [13:00] <Morrolan> I'm tempted to just blame Notch, but maybe there's a valid explanation so I won't. ^^
#903 [13:01] <nullspace> id like to purchase one of those dedicated new servers for the new version of the game, but wanted to mess around with the classic for now. Maybe its the port, ill try changing it
#904 [13:01] <nullspace> i havent even checked out the new version of mc to be honest
#905 [13:02] <Morrolan> I think by now you're safe with thinking it to be superior in any way.
#906 [13:02] <Morrolan> If you want you can still play creative, just with all the new blocks.
#907 [13:04] <nullspace> for sure, i appreciate your help. I run an irc server myself and know people coming in to ask the same questions over and over can be redundant.
#908 [13:04] <nullspace> lol
#909 [13:04] <nullspace> i got a site with about 48k members that would loooove this if i can get it set up
#910 [13:04] <nullspace> lol
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#912 [13:09] <nullspace> intresting, i just noticed theres no process for the mc server running unless i missed it. maybe its getting hung up somewhere, i wonder if i can print it out to nohup
#913 [13:17] <nullspace> starting to think this error is on mc's end
#914 [13:17] <nullspace> getting a heartbeat error in the logs
#915 [13:19] <Wug> yeah, thats an error with minecraft.net
#916 [13:20] <Wug> classic servers depend on minecraft.net somewhat more than beta
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#922 [13:28] <mib_fn2tdk> I'm waiting one day for minecraft, but there is no e#mail from mojang!
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#924 [13:31] <nullspace> hm, i appreciate your input wug, i think you might be right. i cant get the error all the time, and late last night i was actually able to connect to my server for about 15 seconds.
#925 [13:32] <nullspace> i can tell when im on cause i can pull up the nick list, and use the talk command
#926 [13:32] <nullspace> guess im going to have to break down and purchase the new one, no worries
#927 [13:32] <nullspace> any recommendations on minecraft dedicated hosting? i saw some links on the site, didnt know if anyone used any of em.
#928 [13:33] <Wug> you dont have to own minecraft premium to host a premium server
#929 [13:33] <Wug> it certainly helps though
#930 [13:34] <Wug> you can check out beastnode. they have a channel here, #beastnode
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#932 [13:34] <nullspace> yea, im checkin around some options. This server here is a clients server with a ton of free space on it but i think id like to keep em seperate. Ill check out beastnode right now, ty again.
#933 [13:34] <SinZ> ...or #craftnode
#934 [13:34] <nullspace> cool, ill check em both, ty again
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#936 [13:36] <nullspace> wow, really like the "package selection bar" on beastnode, imma have to incorporate something like this sometime, good setup.
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#938 [13:39] <[Co-Owner]Comptek> Just a quick question
#939 [13:39] <[Co-Owner]Comptek> Just a quick question
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#943 [13:40] <[Co-Owner]Comptek> When will the classic server list be fixed.
#944 [13:40] <[Co-Owner]Comptek> ?
#945 [13:40] <Ketsueki> Classic -had- a list?
#946 [13:41] <mib_smr7w9> hi, i have a problem with my game, if i play the game but without sounds. i reinstall the game and under options are the sounslevel of 100 % but i can´t hear tha sound (sorry for my bad english^^ )
#947 [13:41] <[Co-Owner]Comptek> http://www.minecraft.net/classic/list
#948 [13:41] <[Co-Owner]Comptek> it wont update at all
#949 [13:41] <Ketsueki> also, nullspace you might try this if hoasting it your self sounds sucky; I've heard they're pretty good at making things easy. http://minecraft-servers.com/compare.php
#950 [13:41] <[Co-Owner]Comptek> our serverisnt showung up
#951 [13:42] <Ketsueki> [Co-Owner]Comptek: check your config options? I've never run classic so that's all the help I can be.
#952 [13:42] <Ketsueki> mib_smr7w9: can you otherwise hear sounds from your computer?
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#954 [13:43] <[Co-Owner]Comptek> well its the Badcraft server. Our settings are correct and it shows our server but there are 3 old ones that are still there that are down
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#958 [13:44] <Ketsueki> IDK; wait for timeout? File a ticket with actual mojang?
#959 [13:44] <clarjon1> [Co-Owner]Comptek: Classic isn't really supported much at all, i'm afraid...
#960 [13:46] <[Co-Owner]Comptek> Lol yeah i figured guess we just gotta let it die in piece
#961 [13:46] <[Co-Owner]Comptek> peace*
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#964 [13:48] <mib_smr7w9> yes, i tested the game runing on internet it´s with sound but i played on my computer installed game without playing sounds. i have no idea what is the problem by me
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#967 [13:54] <mib_smr7w9> noch jemand da?
#968 [13:54] <nullspace> Ketsueki, thanks for that link, im checking it out now
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#970 [13:54] <Ketsueki> nullspace: that's 'pay' minecraft hosting BTW; it's not classic.
#971 [13:55] <nullspace> absolutely, thats fine
#972 [13:56] <nullspace> im diggin the pay per slot option, so i can start with 6 and see if people dig it
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#975 [14:01] <manderchar> Hi there. My worlds seems to have crashed. Upon selecting it, it hangs at the "building chunks" portion of the loading bar for a while. It eventually loads the world, but I can't move the camera, the character or anything.
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#977 [14:06] <manderchar> Any ideas?
#978 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> manderchar: you could try this..
#979 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> ??> manderchar nullsave
#980 [14:07] <VoxelHead> manderchar: (nullsave) If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#981 [14:07] <VoxelHead> manderchar: (nullsave) MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#982 [14:08] <manderchar> Let me give that a try
#983 [14:30] <Morrolan> ??< corruptedsaverecovery
#984 [14:31] <Wug> ?? corruptedsaverecovery
#985 [14:31] <VoxelHead> corruptedsaverecovery: Apocalypse_r has a thread in which he and others fix corrupted saves. The thread is: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/137381-official-corrupted-save-recovery-thread/
#986 [14:31] <VoxelHead> corruptedsaverecovery: Apocalypse_r has a thread in which he and others fix corrupted saves. The thread is: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/137381-official-corrupted-save-recovery-thread/
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#988 [14:31] <Wug> ??- corruptedsaverecovery
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#990 [14:33] <Morrolan> Instead of simply removing you could change it to link to http://mcsaver.net/ which is where the guys from that thread went, Wug. :)
#991 [14:34] <Wug> Morrolan: well, not all of them
#992 [14:34] <Wug> apocalypse_r is me
#993 [14:34] <Morrolan> Haha, ok.
#994 [14:34] <Wug> and I havent checked that thread in months
#995 [14:35] <Morrolan> Atleast some of them moved over to that site then. :) (Or, at the very least, it was linked there)
#996 [14:35] <Wug> I'll reset it but usually if someone asks about a damaged world here I just fix it for them
#997 [14:35] <Morrolan> I guess if you have the time that's the easiest solution.
#998 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> ??+ aaverecovery|A tool to possibly recover corrupted worlds can be found at http://www.mcsaver.net
#999 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> thanks, Morrolan
#1000 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> ??+ saverecovery|A tool to possibly recover corrupted worlds can be found at http://www.mcsaver.net
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#1002 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> ??- aaverecovery
#1003 [14:36] <Morrolan> Sure thing.
#1004 [14:36] <Morrolan> Also, we could just move everything save-related to save/xyz I guess.
#1005 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> good idea; will do that now.
#1006 [14:36] <Wug> probably a good idea
#1007 [14:37] <Morrolan> :)
#1008 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> Done.
#1009 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> new keys are save/null and save/recovery
#1010 [14:37] <Morrolan> Ok.
#1011 [14:38] <Morrolan> The FAQ is actually (slowly) getting organized. ^^
#1012 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> just in time for the complete rewrite (:
#1013 [14:38] <Wug> lol
#1014 [14:38] <Morrolan> heh
#1015 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> I've been meaning to migrate from a flat text file to a proper DB forever
#1016 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> I even have the schemae all ready.
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#1018 [14:41] <CyberrichterII> Guten Abend
#1019 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> Wilkommen Sie!
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#1021 [14:42] <mib_tli3o9> am i speaking to a representative of the company?
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#1023 [14:43] <Morrolan> Nope, none here is...
#1024 [14:43] <Morrolan> Yes, run! Run fast, because if I find you...
#1025 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> !topic -1
#1026 [14:44] <langkid1> notch needs to fix the mibbit link on the Community pagesess
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#1028 [14:44] <blakeman1> hi
#1029 [14:44] <Morrolan> Hmph, as if people were suddendly more patient when they wouldn't be using Mibbit anymore.
#1030 [14:44] <Morrolan> hello blakeman1
#1031 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, the support page needs to be re-written. We've bugged Mollstam about it
#1032 [14:46] <blakeman1> i sorta need help
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#1034 [14:46] <Morrolan> I suggest you ask your question then, because if you don't it's not all that probable that you'll get what you need. :)
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#1036 [14:47] <CyberrichterII> First: sorry for my bad english
#1037 [14:47] <CyberrichterII> Second: i have pay for Minecraft via ELV. How long must i am waiting, to play finaly Minecraft?
#1038 [14:47] <Morrolan> Normally it's ready in a few hours, but there are rare cases where it took up to three days, CyberrichterII.
#1039 [14:48] <blakeman1> Morr
#1040 [14:48] <Morrolan> mhm?
#1041 [14:48] <CyberrichterII> hum...
#1042 [14:48] <blakeman1> im trying to install Tale of Kingdoms mod http://mibpaste.com/VTPVbF
#1043 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> ??> blakeman1 mods
#1044 [14:50] <VoxelHead> blakeman1: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1045 [14:50] <VoxelHead> blakeman1: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1046 [14:50] <Morrolan> blakeman1: Could be either a conflicting mod or a mod not being updated for the version of Minecraft you're using. For further help it'd be best to contact the author of that mod directly, either through IRC if he has a channel here, or through the mod's thread.
#1047 [14:51] <blakeman1> kk, didnt know that, ill use MCForums instead
#1048 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> blakeman1 - From where did you download heroes guild from?
#1049 [14:54] <blakeman1> hold on
#1050 [14:54] <blakeman1> i know this is the creator http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/751960-100-tale-of-kingdoms-version-130-pre2-fixes/
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#1052 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> The problem lies with heroes guild of that mod, you'll need to talk to the creator to get it straightened out
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#1055 [14:57] <mib_hgp0i1> I just baught minecraft but I can't download it to my computer for some reason.
#1056 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_hgp0i1 - And why can't you download it? What happens when you try?
#1057 [14:58] <mib_hgp0i1> Well I get to the launcher and try to update it but the completion bar doesnt move.
#1058 [14:58] <mib_hgp0i1> I figured it was because I didn't have the game on my computer yet.
#1059 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_hgp0i1 - Does it stop on any specific file, or does it not start at all?
#1060 [15:01] <mib_hgp0i1> Even when I try to launch the game in my brouser I doesn't work.
#1061 [15:01] <mib_hgp0i1> doesnt start at all
#1062 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#1063 [15:01] <mib_hgp0i1> windows 7
#1064 [15:01] <Cyberrichter> <- xp ^^'
#1065 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Does your windows username happen to contain an exclaimation mark (!) in it?
#1066 [15:02] <mib_hgp0i1> No it"s Demonrik, just made the account today
#1067 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Not your minecraft username. Your windows username
#1068 [15:03] <mib_hgp0i1> Oh, no it does not have an exclamation mark.
#1069 [15:03] <mib_hgp0i1> The name of my computer... No
#1070 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure about that? Go to your start menu. In the search bar, type in: %userprofile% and press enter. Look at the folder's name that it takes you to
#1071 [15:04] <mib_hgp0i1> Its Just Crazy's Beast
#1072 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Could you check what version of java you have? http://javatester.org/version.html
#1073 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Is it 1.6, or 1.7?
#1074 [15:06] <mib_hgp0i1> 1.6.0
#1075 [15:06] <mib_hgp0i1> update?
#1076 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> No, 1.7's been known to do something like this, you're good with 1.6
#1077 [15:07] <mib_hgp0i1> Ok
#1078 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Could you make sure java 7's not installed on your computer by checking the control panel -> programs and features.
#1079 [15:09] <mib_hgp0i1> Java 6 Standard
#1080 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Could you try making a new windows account, using window's control panel -> user accounts, and try minecraft from there?
#1081 [15:13] <mib_hgp0i1> So I log on to this and see if the game will work?
#1082 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#1083 [15:13] <mib_hgp0i1> Il be back.
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#1087 [15:16] <SimenOlai_Phone> O.o
#1088 [15:16] <SimenOlai_Phone> O.o
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#1090 [15:17] <Guest17606> Help
#1091 [15:17] <Guest17606> I cant get out of channel
#1092 [15:18] <ellisgeek> ./exit
#1093 [15:18] <Guest17606> Only channel?
#1094 [15:18] <Guest17606> Or server ?
#1095 [15:18] <ellisgeek> are u on webchat
#1096 [15:19] <Guest17606> No
#1097 [15:19] <geraldbrent> To leave this channel, use /part #channelnamehere <reason for part>
#1098 [15:19] <ellisgeek> ./part mabu
#1099 [15:19] <Guest17606> Cellphone
#1100 [15:19] <ellisgeek> ./part #minecrafthelp
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#1104 [15:19] <mib_hgp0i1> Nothing.
#1105 [15:19] <ellisgeek> lol
#1106 [15:19] <ellisgeek> that works
#1107 [15:20] <mib_hgp0i1> Maybe im doing something wrong.
#1108 [15:20] <ellisgeek> ?
#1109 [15:20] <ellisgeek> need help?
#1110 [15:21] <mib_hgp0i1> Step by step how does one get this downloader to work poperly
#1111 [15:21] <ellisgeek> which 1
#1112 [15:22] <mib_hgp0i1> I dont see how the name o my computer would influence problems either.
#1113 [15:22] <mib_hgp0i1> thats new.
#1114 [15:22] <mib_hgp0i1> Failed to launch
#1115 [15:22] <mib_hgp0i1> hmm
#1116 [15:22] <ellisgeek> carp i forgot how to use voxel :(
#1117 [15:23] <mib_hgp0i1> Update still stuck
#1118 [15:23] <Morrolan> ??> index ellisgeek
#1119 [15:23] <Morrolan> Like that for example.
#1120 [15:23] <Morrolan> wait, other way round -.-
#1121 [15:23] <Morrolan> ??> ellisgeek index
#1122 [15:23] <VoxelHead> ellisgeek: (index) See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#1123 [15:23] <ellisgeek> duh
#1124 [15:23] <ellisgeek> thx
#1125 [15:23] <Morrolan> "??< <keyword>" to check for yourself.
#1126 [15:23] <ellisgeek> ya i know
#1127 [15:24] <ellisgeek> thanks
#1128 [15:24] <clarjon1> AG_Clinton:
#1129 [15:24] <clarjon1> you there dude
#1130 [15:24] <clarjon1> you're the hosting guy, righyt?
#1131 [15:24] <mib_hgp0i1> Can I get a refund for this.
#1132 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_hgp0i1 - What's the full fatal error message?
#1133 [15:24] <mib_hgp0i1> There is no point in me spending money If I can't use this.
#1134 [15:24] <mib_hgp0i1> This isnt helping
#1135 [15:25] <clarjon1> mib_hgp0i1: we can't help if we dont' know the full error.
#1136 [15:27] <mib_hgp0i1> I still haven't even gotten this to to download properly. the only change has been that "Failed to connect: Connection failed" thing that came up during one of my attempts. It has only come up once
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#1138 [15:29] <mib_hgp0i1> I didn't think this would be such a hassle prior to "Trying" this game.
#1139 [15:29] <mib_hgp0i1> Ok
#1140 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> "trying"?
#1141 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> aka stealing.
#1142 [15:29] <mib_hgp0i1> This is what is hapopening.
#1143 [15:29] <mib_hgp0i1> I'd Download the Launcher
#1144 [15:29] <mib_hgp0i1> Then Log in
#1145 [15:30] <mib_hgp0i1> First I had the option to update. The update never progressed
#1146 [15:30] <ellisgeek> is your account Premium
#1147 [15:31] <mib_hgp0i1> Yes
#1148 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> What did you mean by "trying" this game?
#1149 [15:31] <mib_hgp0i1> could it have something to do with my account recently being made?
#1150 [15:32] <ellisgeek> i dont think do
#1151 [15:32] <mib_hgp0i1> By trying I mean using the free version, aswell as watching others have fun with the game.
#1152 [15:32] <ellisgeek> aaaahhh
#1153 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> The free version?
#1154 [15:33] <mib_hgp0i1> I baght the game but cant access it through my brouser or download it to my computer.
#1155 [15:33] <mib_hgp0i1> Baught
#1156 [15:33] <ellisgeek> http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play
#1157 [15:33] <ellisgeek> try that
#1158 [15:33] <mib_hgp0i1> I already know about the free trial guys
#1159 [15:34] <mib_hgp0i1> Although its not really a tria
#1160 [15:34] <mib_hgp0i1> trial
#1161 [15:34] <mib_hgp0i1> just the older version
#1162 [15:35] <ellisgeek> hmm well i realy dont know
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#1164 [15:35] <ellisgeek> your java is up 2 date?
#1165 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> mib_hgp0i1 - Could you launch the inbrowser client at minecraft.net, when the applet starts up, please look for a white coffee cup icon in your system tray, near your clock
#1166 [15:36] <mib_hgp0i1> Yesand it is not version 7
#1167 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Right click on it, open up the console. Copy everything inside and paste it at www.pastebin.com, submit it, give us the URL
#1168 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Right click on it, open up the console. Copy everything inside and paste it at www.pastebin.com, submit it, give us the URL
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#1171 [15:39] <kpuck> when i try to play in browser i only get a white screen
#1172 [15:40] <ellisgeek> ?> java
#1173 [15:40] <ellisgeek> ??< Java
#1174 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> kpuck - What operating system?
#1175 [15:40] <kpuck> windows
#1176 [15:40] <ellisgeek> ??< java/info
#1177 [15:41] <ellisgeek> try that first
#1178 [15:41] <ellisgeek> more than likely your java is out of date or is not installed
#1179 [15:41] <kpuck> ok
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#1181 [15:42] <ellisgeek> also what Browser?
#1182 [15:42] <mib_hgp0i1> Should I try uninstalling java then reinstalling it?
#1183 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> mib_hgp0i1 - Try uninstalling java completely and reinstall java 6 from:
#1184 [15:42] <mib_hgp0i1> Mozilla firefox
#1185 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> :j
#1186 [15:42] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#1187 [15:43] <mib_hgp0i1> I mentioned I run Windows 7 right?
#1188 [15:45] <mib_hgp0i1> Im updating so Ill be back k
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#1190 [15:47] <Demonrik> Ok im back
#1191 [15:47] <ellisgeek> okay
#1192 [15:48] <Demonrik> Need to restart.
#1193 [15:48] <Demonrik> I hope this works
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#1197 [15:51] <boringtown> INCREDIBLY displeased with how i've spent the past hour. my account seemed to be compromised in the past 2 weeks. simple right, just reset the password? welp my email was full and the message bounced. simple right, just do it again? welp, minecraft.net just bounces you back to the home page if you try to do that. that's understandable, they want to prevent attacks, just send them an
#1198 [15:51] <boringtown> e-mail and ask for them to resend it, right? SPENT THE LAST HOUR TRYING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH ANYONE, FRICKING ANYONE, AT MOJANG WITHOUT MAKING A TWITTER ACCOUNT
#1199 [15:51] <boringtown> FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHY IS THERE NO PUBLISHED CONTACT E-MAIL?
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#1201 [15:52] <boringtown> i just want to leave a memo. this is not an urgent problem. "hey, please re-send this message you sent me earlier." but nope
#1202 [15:52] <ellisgeek> ??< spam
#1203 [15:52] <boringtown> gonna go have a smoke. maybe you guys can help me. thanks.
#1204 [15:52] <ellisgeek> ??< dont/flood
#1205 [15:53] <DreadLindwyrm> I think those should be ??>
#1206 [15:53] <Morrolan> Why? He wasn't flooding.
#1207 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> ellisgeek: a> you are sending those FAQ entries only to yourself. b> Who's flooding?
#1208 [15:53] <ellisgeek> oh balls
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#1210 [15:53] <ellisgeek> large ammounts oftexy
#1211 [15:53] <Demonrik> k
#1212 [15:53] <Demonrik> now what
#1213 [15:54] <ellisgeek> ??> demonrik mc.net/password
#1214 [15:54] <VoxelHead> demonrik: (mc.net/password) To change your password, log into http://www.minecraft.net, and then go here: http://www.minecraft.net/profile/password
#1215 [15:54] <ellisgeek> i know u know that
#1216 [15:54] <boringtown> nice recovery
#1217 [15:54] <Demonrik> Verified Java Version Congratulations! You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 30).
#1218 [15:54] <boringtown> i almost e-throttled you
#1219 [15:54] <lukegb> boringtown: what's your username?
#1220 [15:54] <Morrolan> boringtown: Either way, to get back to you - minecraft.net sending you back to the main site is not intended but a bug. I suggest you try to clear your browser's cache and cookies and try again.
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#1222 [15:54] <boringtown> thanks, i'll try that
#1223 [15:54] <lukegb> boringtown: what's your Minecraft username?
#1224 [15:54] <ellisgeek> but this channel is support by the community for the community we are in no way associated with mojang
#1225 [15:55] <boringtown> oh, i know that
#1226 [15:55] <lukegb> boringtown: what's your Minecraft username?
#1227 [15:55] <boringtown> boringtown
#1228 [15:55] <ellisgeek> sorry was to deamonric
#1229 [15:55] <lukegb> boringtown: I submitted the "Forgot password" form for you.
#1230 [15:55] <Demonrik> Updating minecraft: Downloading packages.
#1231 [15:55] <boringtown> thanks so much luke.
#1232 [15:55] <lukegb> boringtown: it said: "Success! An e-mail has been dispatched and should make its way to your inbox momentarily."
#1233 [15:56] <Demonrik> Still no movement
#1234 [15:56] <boringtown> if i could kiss you
#1235 [15:56] <ellisgeek> ??> Deamonrik dont/flood
#1236 [15:56] <VoxelHead> Deamonrik: (dont/flood) Please do not paste large globs of text into the IRC channel. This is called 'flooding' and is considered _very_ rude.
#1237 [15:56] <lukegb> I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not :P
#1238 [15:56] <VoxelHead> Deamonrik: (dont/flood) If you have an error log or other information to share that is more then one or two lines, use pastebin.com. see pastebin for more information.
#1239 [15:56] <boringtown> no, it's really not
#1240 [15:56] <ellisgeek> deamonrik as a rule
#1241 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> ellisgeek: who's flooding?
#1242 [15:56] <boringtown> let me check if the email arrived
#1243 [15:56] <boringtown> the e-mail came. thanks luke.
#1244 [15:56] <lukegb> No problem.
#1245 [15:57] <boringtown> hadn't even considered the possibility of the problem being on my side
#1246 [15:57] <lukegb> Website glitches are the worst :P
#1247 [15:57] <ellisgeek> when deamonrik joined he pasted a large rant into the chan
#1248 [15:57] <boringtown> and just came here to vent about they're not being a published email, and maybe you guys knew something i didnt
#1249 [15:57] <boringtown> there*
#1250 [15:57] <boringtown> and obviously you did
#1251 [15:57] <boringtown> thank you gentlemen
#1252 [15:57] <lukegb> boringtown: it's a combination of you and the site, methinks - minecraft.net has a habit of being glitchy
#1253 [15:57] <boringtown> good day to you all
#1254 [15:57] <lukegb> And the Minecraft response time on emails is pretty high, from what I've heard :P
#1255 [15:57] <Morrolan> boringtown: About Mojang's support mail - help@mojang.com it is, but they're, well, somewhat flooded.
#1256 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> ellisgeek: Yes, but it was cogent, short, in complete sentences, and was stating a problem with which he needed assistance. That's not flooding. Dumping 10 lines from a Java stack trace is flooding.
#1257 [15:58] <ellisgeek> ok
#1258 [15:58] <ellisgeek> sorry
#1259 [15:58] <lukegb> Demonrik: I presume you've already had people tell you to check your AV/firewall and make sure that java and Minecraft are both on it's "approved" list?
#1260 [15:59] <Demonrik> I check
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#1262 [16:00] <boringtown> Luke, thanks to you i can play multiplayer for the first time in 2 weeks. You solved my problem in 30 seconds after i had spent an hour simply trying to find a contact e-mail address for Mojang. You are a gentleman and a scholar. With that, i bid you all good day. Sorry if I came off a little abrasive at first entrance
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#1264 [16:01] <Demonrik> Java is
#1265 [16:01] <Morrolan> lukegb: Heh, now that was an interesting way of solving his problem, wouldn't have thought of that. :D
#1266 [16:02] <lukegb> Morrolan: :P
#1267 [16:02] <fkgnjdipnpbed> hey is there a problem with mc.net i make a new account and it will not send a verification code and ive tried 4 emails so far and neither of them recieve a verification code
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#1269 [16:03] <lukegb> fkgnjdipnpbed: what email provider are you trying; have you checked the Spam/Junk folders?
#1270 [16:03] <DopeGhoti> check your spam boxen, fkgnjdipnpbed
#1271 [16:04] <fkgnjdipnpbed> lol just type for my name i know it kept saying pick new nick and im using @hotmail.com and i have checked the junk file it isnt there
#1272 [16:04] <fkgnjdipnpbed> type f sorry*
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#1274 [16:08] <Zaurkahn> Does anyone know haw to revert a changed biome in MC after a gamecrash?
#1275 [16:08] <Zaurkahn> how, that is?
#1276 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> Biomes are dependant on the world's seed value. If that's changed, the biomes do as well
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#1278 [16:11] <Zaurkahn> So if I go into MCedit and redo the old seed, it should fix the biomes?
#1279 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> If you know the old seed...
#1280 [16:12] <Demonrik> Thanks for the... "Help" Really apretiated.
#1281 [16:12] <Zaurkahn> I do know the old seed! Even the numerical value!
#1282 [16:13] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Zaurkahn: if you didnt make backups then you could probably use nbtedit to change the seed back.
#1283 [16:13] <|Kiichan|Schala|> you only need to restore level.dat
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#1287 [16:20] <Zaurkahn> The next question is - after my game crash I lost all of my experience levels (not many, only 21 of them); is it possible to edit them back in somehow?
#1288 [16:21] <|Kiichan|Schala|> nbtedit :P
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#1290 [16:23] <Jenks> HALP
#1291 [16:24] <Zaurkahn> what is nbtedit?
#1292 [16:24] <Jenks> Hell if I know.
#1293 [16:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> wtfs
#1294 [16:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> O.o
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#1296 [16:26] <Morrolan> Zaurkahn: A tool which allows you to edit the level.dat file.
#1297 [16:26] <Morrolan> Google will assist you in finding it I think. :)
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#1300 [16:27] <subatomic74> I see that you guys can't offer account help or support, is there any channels that can that you know of?
#1301 [16:27] <Zaurkahn> searching now - Thank you Morrolan, Kiichan|Schala, GreyVulpine!
#1302 [16:28] <Scott> subatomic74: No.
#1303 [16:28] <Morrolan> Account issues can be taken care of by Mojang only, subatomic74.
#1304 [16:28] <Scott> You need to contact mojang via http://minecraft.net/support
#1305 [16:28] <subatomic74> okay thanx. unfortunately I have been trying for weeks with no resonse
#1306 [16:29] <Morrolan> You could describe us your issue though, it could be that it's something we can tell you how to resolve.
#1307 [16:29] <nic657890> Hi we only bought the game yesterday and it keeps telling us its out of memory and has a problem and it closes us out of the game. We have not yet been able to play it at all. Hope you can help. Thanks
#1308 [16:29] <Morrolan> Are you on a 64 or 32 bit operating system, nic657890?
#1309 [16:30] <nic657890> Not sure how do i find out?
#1310 [16:30] <Morrolan> ARe you on Windows?
#1311 [16:30] <nic657890> Yes xp
#1312 [16:30] <|Kiichan|Schala|> win+pause :D
#1313 [16:30] <subatomic74> my problem is that I bought 2 alpha acounbts a long time ago so me and my son could play together. the accounts worked great untill about two weeks ago, and now my sons account wont log in. minecraft.net tells us the username doent even exist
#1314 [16:30] <Morrolan> Yea, what |Kiichan|Schala| said. Press the windows key and the pause key at the same time, nic657890.
#1315 [16:31] <Morrolan> There will then be a popup, and next to "System type" you'll see the version of WIndows you're using.
#1316 [16:31] <nic657890> Do i do this while i am logged in
#1317 [16:31] <Morrolan> Just anywhere in Windows, nic657890.
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#1319 [16:32] <Eckoko> Hi everybody
#1320 [16:33] <Eckoko> I made a server this afternoon with bukkit, I can connect with "loalhost" but my friend can't connect, he is stuck on "Downloading Terrain". I already did minecraft servers, and never had this probleme...
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#1322 [16:34] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Eckoko: did you port forward?
#1323 [16:34] <Eckoko> They are open, I was running a server one week ago on the same computer
#1324 [16:34] <nic657890> Sorry but i do i look under general or somewhere else
#1325 [16:35] <|Kiichan|Schala|> !check 86.194.62.59
#1326 [16:35] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Eckoko: you seem to be fine... that the ip you gave your friend?
#1327 [16:35] <Eckoko> yes, and I can see him in the game but he don't see the game
#1328 [16:36] <Eckoko> I see him and he is disconnected
#1329 [16:37] <Morrolan> nic657890: Hmm, do you see anything there saying anything like "32 bit" or "64 bit"?
#1330 [16:37] <nic657890> No sorry
#1331 [16:37] <Morrolan> Since you're on XP you are most likely on 32 bit anyway, come to think of it.
#1332 [16:37] <Wug> almost certainly
#1333 [16:37] <Eckoko> (sorry but I'm french so my english is so bad) I wan't to say that, before he get disconected and while he is downloading terrain, I see him on the map
#1334 [16:38] <Morrolan> Eckoko: Try to delete his player.dat file.
#1335 [16:38] <Wug> Eckoko: your english is better than that of some of the english people we encounter
#1336 [16:38] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Eckoko: im thinking its network issues... possibly firewall :/
#1337 [16:38] <Wug> ^
#1338 [16:38] <Morrolan> Wug: Any ideas regarding "out of memory" on XP?
#1339 [16:38] <|Kiichan|Schala|> and im on laptop so cant really do much to test you outside of channel
#1340 [16:39] <Wug> I doubt its a corrupt player file issue, those usually result in being disconnected outright
#1341 [16:39] <Wug> Morrolan: probably nothing that can be done
#1342 [16:39] <Eckoko> I already tried to delete his player.dat (Seen that on a forum)
#1343 [16:39] <nic657890> Thanks for your help i need to go to appoint. I will keep trying
#1344 [16:40] <Wug> ;check Eckoko
#1345 [16:40] <Morrolan> Wug: Yea, I'm afraid so too.
#1346 [16:40] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: AGrenoble-257-1-23-59.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr:25565 (Timed out)
#1347 [16:40] <Morrolan> Oh well, he left now anyway.
#1348 [16:40] <Wug> Eckoko: are you hosting this yourself
#1349 [16:40] <Eckoko> server ?
#1350 [16:40] <Eckoko> yed
#1351 [16:40] <Eckoko> yes *
#1352 [16:40] <Wug> is it running?
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#1354 [16:40] <Eckoko> yes he is running
#1355 [16:40] <|Kiichan|Schala|> aubot succeded in a check a second ago o.o;;;\
#1356 [16:41] <Wug> ;check Eckoko
#1357 [16:41] <WugBot> AGrenoble-257-1-23-59.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: A Minecraft Server (1/20)
#1358 [16:41] <Wug> seems to be ok now
#1359 [16:41] <Wug> ;ip Eckoko
#1360 [16:41] <WugBot> IP address of Eckoko is: 86.194.62.59
#1361 [16:41] <Wug> it might be an issue on his side
#1362 [16:42] <Eckoko> Someone could try ? Cause he is able to connect on other servers ...
#1363 [16:42] <Wug> wugbot can connect
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#1365 [16:42] <Wug> though I seem to be stuck at downloading terrain as well
#1366 [16:43] <Morrolan> Pft, I'm stuck at "connecting to the server"
#1367 [16:43] <Eckoko> strange ...
#1368 [16:43] <Eckoko> Trying to re-download minecraft server
#1369 [16:44] <Eckoko> it may be corrupted ..?
#1370 [16:44] <Wug> can you pastebin the log file
#1371 [16:44] <Wug> it might have errors in it
#1372 [16:44] <Eckoko> 2012-01-02 22:19:32 [INFO] Starting minecraft server version 1.0.0 2012-01-02 22:19:32 [INFO] Loading properties 2012-01-02 22:19:32 [WARNING] server.properties does not exist 2012-01-02 22:19:32 [INFO] Generating new properties file 2012-01-02 22:19:32 [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on *:25565 2012-01-02 22:19:32 [WARNING] Failed to load ban list: java.io.
#1373 [16:44] <Morrolan> pastebin.com please. :)
#1374 [16:44] <Wug> use pastebin, dont paste it here
#1375 [16:45] <Eckoko> ok sorry
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#1377 [16:45] <Eckoko> http://pastebin.com/tA1351an
#1378 [16:46] <Eckoko> don't know if this is what you need, never knew this thing
#1379 [16:46] <Eckoko> ouch
#1380 [16:46] <Eckoko> it not look good
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#1382 [16:52] <Wug> Eckoko: it looks an awful lot like a firewall thing
#1383 [16:52] <Wug> double check to make sure all of your firewalls are off
#1384 [16:52] <Wug> make sure there arent any router traffic rules blocking it from sending data either
#1385 [16:54] * GreyVulpine bets something like comodo/zonealarm.
#1385 [16:56] <Eckoko> the only firewall I have is Windows one
#1386 [16:56] <Morrolan> What exactly does WugBot do when trying to connect? Send a Handshake packet and wait for a response?
#1387 [16:56] <ellisgeek> if it were a firewall you would not even get that far
#1388 [16:56] <Wug> Morrolan: you know how the client shows the motd and the number of players in the server select screen
#1389 [16:56] <Wug> it does that
#1390 [16:56] <Morrolan> Ah, I see.
#1391 [16:57] <Eckoko> seems that Java was forbbid in windows firewall, but it change nothing
#1392 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> so it sends a query and parses the response.
#1393 [16:57] <Wug> Eckoko: your isp might be blocking it
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#1395 [16:57] <mace9984> Hi, I have a quick question if anyone has a second?
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#1397 [16:57] <ellisgeek> mace9984: whats up?
#1398 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> I have not only a second, but many answers, all available for trade.
#1399 [16:57] <mace9984> Hey, thanks
#1400 [16:58] <mace9984> I have minecraft on pc, and i purchased it on my android phone.
#1401 [16:58] <mace9984> and my wife just got me an ipad, do I have to buy it again?
#1402 [16:58] <ellisgeek> pocket edition?
#1403 [16:58] <ellisgeek> yes
#1404 [16:58] <mace9984> yeah, both the regular, and pocket edition
#1405 [16:58] <ellisgeek> unfortunatly you do
#1406 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> Yes, iOS and Android are different markets
#1407 [16:58] <Eckoko> yes it's not the same OS so not the same market
#1408 [16:58] <mace9984> Dang
#1409 [16:58] <mace9984> ok :)
#1410 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> compare buying a game on XBLA; you'd still have to rebuy it for PSN
#1411 [16:58] <mace9984> Thanks guys
#1412 [16:59] <mace9984> sure, that makes sense
#1413 [16:59] <ellisgeek> no prob
#1414 [16:59] <Eckoko> sorry but what is ISP ?
#1415 [16:59] <Morrolan> Internet Service Provider
#1416 [16:59] <ellisgeek> Internet Service Provider
#1417 [16:59] <Wug> sometime I'm going to try to port actual minecraft to the android platform
#1418 [16:59] <Morrolan> The guys you buy your internet from, basically. :P
#1419 [16:59] <ellisgeek> damn to slow :P
#1420 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> That's officially a FAQ now.
#1421 [16:59] <Eckoko> ok ^^
#1422 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> ??+ ISP|Internet Service Provider
#1423 [16:59] <Morrolan> Heh
#1424 [16:59] <Wug> my phone is probably fast enough to actually run it
#1425 [17:00] <Wug> at least if I turned all of the options down far enough
#1426 [17:00] <mace9984> What phone do you have?
#1427 [17:00] <ellisgeek> wug: lol i wish i had a phone that could
#1428 [17:00] <Eckoko> In france, it' a FAI ;)
#1429 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> MPE works pretty well on the T-Mobile G2
#1430 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> And the Nook Color
#1431 [17:00] <mace9984> It runs well on my evo 4g too
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#1433 [17:03] <Calinou> Eckoko: ISP === FAI
#1434 [17:04] <Calinou> france @ connection speeds suck though. :/
#1435 [17:04] <Eckoko> I agree with you ^^
#1436 [17:04] <Calinou> I'm french too :P
#1437 [17:04] <Eckoko> I'm so excited when I get 5Mb/s !
#1438 [17:04] <Bloodek> Hey, I've had a problem with my save file. My computer, and don't ask me why, after some time crashes, and everything running at that time stops working. This has happened once or twice while I was playing, but everytime I went back, the file had saved right where I was. The problem is that now it happened and the game stopped recognizing my save files.
#1439 [17:05] <Calinou> ?? nullsave
#1440 [17:05] <Eckoko> Calinou : Nice ;)
#1441 [17:05] <Bloodek> The folders are there with all the files, but in the game menu my world doesnt show. Can anybody help me?
#1442 [17:05] <Calinou> VoxelHead: ...
#1443 [17:05] <Calinou> download MCEdit first. then open the map, then save the map using MCEdit (you don't need to edit anything)
#1444 [17:06] <Bloodek> Gonna try that, thanks
#1445 [17:06] <Calinou> erm, it doesn't seem uptodate for 1.0 maps
#1446 [17:07] <Wug> Calinou: ?? save/null
#1447 [17:07] <Calinou> then use ANY tool that edits the world that can save the work
#1448 [17:07] <Calinou> ?? save/null
#1449 [17:07] <Wug> we reorganized the factoid
#1450 [17:07] <VoxelHead> save/null: If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#1451 [17:07] <VoxelHead> save/null: MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
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#1453 [17:11] <Bloodek> Thanks guys, worked perfectl
#1454 [17:11] <Bloodek> perfectly*
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#1458 [17:17] <peeves> can some one help me, i have a problem with running minecraft on my vist computer?
#1459 [17:17] <peeves> windows vista computer
#1460 [17:18] <peeves> i can't play minecraft in my browser or when i download the game it won't play online only offline mode
#1461 [17:22] <Wug> peeves: what happens when you try to play in browser
#1462 [17:23] <peeves> it just say i need a new version of java, witch i downloaded 3 times but it still doesn't 'work
#1463 [17:24] <Wug> peeves: did you actually install it
#1464 [17:24] <Wug> or did you just download it
#1465 [17:24] <Wug> also, did you uninstall the old version
#1466 [17:24] <peeves> it says run so i clicked run
#1467 [17:25] <peeves> but nothin happend
#1468 [17:26] <Wug> save it to your desktop instead
#1469 [17:26] <peeves> i did
#1470 [17:26] <Wug> then try to run it once its saved
#1471 [17:27] <peeves> when i log in it is the problem, when i try to log in i can only play offline
#1472 [17:27] <peeves> i reinstalled everything now
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#1474 [17:29] <peeves> in some way it started working
#1475 [17:29] <peeves> but still thx for helping me
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#1479 [17:41] <blinky> hello
#1480 [17:42] <Eckoko> so can't do anything about this, nevermind, thank for the help
#1481 [17:43] <Eckoko> have a good night (Well, In france, It's almost midnight ;) )
#1482 [17:43] <Eckoko> have a good night (Well, In france, It's almost midnight ;) )
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#1484 [17:44] <blinky> wow
#1485 [17:44] <blinky> good day mate
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#1488 [17:52] <smerft> I'm not sure if I bought the game or not... For one card it said that I couldnt get the money from my bank account so I changed cards and the site said something about not being able to get money again but click OK to continue
#1489 [17:52] <smerft> I did that and then the site said thank you for buying minecraft
#1490 [17:52] <smerft> so im confused
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#1492 [17:54] <Wazap> hey guys, if I want to play on a private server with my friend do we both have to port forward in order to connect or does the server admin have to do it only ?
#1493 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Server
#1494 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> smerft - The second page always returns a successful message. trust the first page.
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#1496 [17:55] <morphalias> hello!
#1497 [17:55] <smerft> so i should try to rebuy it?
#1498 [17:56] <morphalias> can someone help me with my minecraft server?
#1499 [17:56] <morphalias> '
#1500 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> smerft - yes
#1501 [17:56] <Wazap> yeah... GreyVulpine I followed your instruction from earlier and I couldnt retrieve my log in info but i got my friend to do it on his computer and we still can't connect
#1502 [17:59] <morphalias> I have a portforwarding minecraft server and I can connect but my friend can not? Seems to work fine!
#1503 [18:00] <morphalias> #smp
#1504 [18:02] <Wazap> can you give any other suggestions Grey ?
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#1511 [18:23] <zelda> I can't download minecraft after purchasing it a couple of days ago
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#1513 [18:24] <zelda> :)
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#1515 [18:25] <zelda> hi
#1516 [18:25] <zelda> :(
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#1518 [18:27] <Jiggler> does anyone know how to make a moving time lapse?
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#1520 [18:29] <imperfect> Minecraft crashes after the load in screen. can anyone help? http://pastebin.com/W0T3mRKZ
#1521 [18:29] <imperfect> loading*
#1522 [18:29] <Jiggler> have you installed any pluggins?
#1523 [18:30] <imperfect> yes, but i've been playing with them for a while.
#1524 [18:30] <imperfect> i did a force update aswell.
#1525 [18:30] <Jiggler> maybe delete bin folder and restart over
#1526 [18:30] <Jiggler> thats what i do
#1527 [18:30] <imperfect> ok.
#1528 [18:31] <imperfect> still crashes
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#1531 [18:33] <imperfect> minecraft crashes at loading screen, can anyone help? http://pastebin.com/W0T3mRKZ
#1532 [18:33] * Jiggler is out of ideas
#1532 [18:33] <imperfect> >.>
#1533 [18:33] <Jiggler> owait
#1534 [18:33] <Jiggler> updated java?
#1535 [18:34] <imperfect> hm
#1536 [18:34] <imperfect> i think im at the newest version
#1537 [18:34] <imperfect> this happened to me like a week ago, so i updated java then
#1538 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Those point to your intel video drivers
#1539 [18:34] <Jiggler> meaning your gpu
#1540 [18:35] <Jiggler> i had a ton of problems using a old gpu then i got a new one and never 1 problem
#1541 [18:36] <imperfect> would make sense
#1542 [18:36] <imperfect> but this is a laptop
#1543 [18:36] <imperfect> i literally just updated drivers last week to solve this problem
#1544 [18:37] <imperfect> now its back already :(
#1545 [18:38] <imperfect> rofl
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#1547 [18:38] <imperfect> just checked if drivers are up to date
#1548 [18:38] <imperfect> and they are..
#1549 [18:39] <imperfect> so unless you know how to fix im going to throw my laptop off a 23 story building.
#1550 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Did you check it from intel's site?
#1551 [18:39] <imperfect> yes
#1552 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> How exactly did you check?
#1553 [18:39] <imperfect> Intel update driver utility
#1554 [18:39] <Jiggler> does anyone have a idea on how ppl do moving timelapses?
#1555 [18:40] <imperfect> they take a super long clip and speed it up.
#1556 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Jiggler - Any decent movie/video software will do frame skipping
#1557 [18:40] <imperfect> yes
#1558 [18:40] <imperfect> that too
#1559 [18:40] <imperfect> i is stupid >.>
#1560 [18:40] <imperfect> anyways brb for like 5 min
#1561 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> imperfect - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#1562 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> ??> imperfect win/dxdiag
#1563 [18:40] <VoxelHead> imperfect: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1564 [18:41] <VoxelHead> imperfect: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1565 [18:41] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: So I redid my java for openjdk under arch, and aside from issues with the lwjgl libs (I more or less had to clean .minecraft and re-install all mods) I got everything working again with this modified script: http://paste2.org/p/1850016
#1566 [18:41] * GreyVulpine ahs and nods
#1566 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Is this something that every arch user should know?
#1567 [18:43] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: It's something potentially every linux user should know; if more java paths were added it would likely also be useful for OSX
#1568 [18:43] * GreyVulpine nods and saves.
#1568 [18:44] <Ketsueki> Also, there's a reason I'm not using a list and loop of somekind. Some /bin/sh (all?) have issues with variable scope inside of loops
#1569 [18:44] <Jiggler> GreyVulpine im talking like i start and then later ive moved 10 blocks one way
#1570 [18:44] <Ketsueki> It's at least happened to me before while processing file lists.
#1571 [18:44] <Jiggler> where my player has to move
#1572 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Jiggler - Huh?
#1573 [18:47] <Jiggler> for a timelapse when the player moves
#1574 [18:47] <Jiggler> the player being
#1575 [18:47] <Jiggler> the one who is recording
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#1577 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea what you're talking about Jiggler.
#1578 [18:48] <Jiggler> sec
#1579 [18:50] <imperfect> win/dxdiag
#1580 [18:50] <imperfect> facepal
#1581 [18:50] <imperfect> GreyVulpine:what do you mean dxdiag?
#1582 [18:51] <Ketsueki> imperfect: exactly what the instructions said to do.
#1583 [18:51] <imperfect> see it now
#1584 [18:52] <Ketsueki> imperfect: are you having trouble creating a successful pastebin; or did you get stuck somewhere else in the process?
#1585 [18:52] <imperfect> http://pastebin.com/zSrci2MJ
#1586 [18:52] <imperfect> nah
#1587 [18:52] <imperfect> i was taking a shower o.o
#1588 [18:52] <imperfect> mybad
#1589 [18:54] <imperfect> i hate windows vista, like this probably has nothing to do with it.. but i just hate it :P
#1590 [18:54] <Ketsueki> imperfect: your CPU is a little slow, you've got enough ram, but what's /really/ killing you is the built in GPU. Quite frankly, it absolutely sucks. Are you sure you're using the latest Intel graphics driver form Intel's site? You might be able to eek out 2-4 FPS
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#1592 [18:54] <Jiggler> like this http://youtu.be/vQzmgoBXrEE?t=2m2s
#1593 [18:55] <Jiggler> where he is moveing from
#1594 [18:55] <Jiggler> one side to the other
#1595 [18:55] <imperfect> yes its the latest.. but mc crashes before it loads all the way.
#1596 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Looks like imperfect is running the latest video drivers
#1597 [18:55] <imperfect> im aware that the gpu sucks..
#1598 [18:55] <imperfect> im also aware the cpu is slow
#1599 [18:55] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: I ask, because early 2009 is nearly 3 years ago now.
#1600 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> I know, I just looked up the drivers for him
#1601 [18:55] <imperfect> but this is what my dad got me like 2 years ago, and until i have saved up 650 bucks for my pc build im doing soon..
#1602 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> build 1666 is the latest from intel's site, for the 965 mobile series
#1603 [18:56] <imperfect> im stuck with this piece of crap, like the charging plug is shorted out
#1604 [18:56] <imperfect> you have to wiggle it and get it in the right place.
#1605 [18:56] <imperfect> hp has dissapointed me with this :(
#1606 [18:56] <Ketsueki> imperfect: let me put it this way. Your GPU drivers were end-of-lifed 3 years ago. You're trying to use that to play a /modern' game.
#1607 [18:56] <imperfect> yay..
#1608 [18:56] <imperfect> so i have no hope? LOL
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#1610 [18:56] <imperfect> that would be a good reason to get a new computer..
#1611 [18:56] <Ketsueki> Even at the time, that wasn't a gaming GPU either.
#1612 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> imperfect - Try running minecraft with these instructions:
#1613 [18:56] <imperfect> i know
#1614 [18:56] <imperfect> its a daily laptop.
#1615 [18:57] <imperfect> and ok Grey.
#1616 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> imperfect - can you try running minecraft with these instructions:
#1617 [18:57] <imperfect> k
#1618 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> bleh
#1619 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#1620 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Wrong paste
#1621 [18:57] <imperfect> :o
#1622 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't work, then there really is no hope for your computer
#1623 [18:57] <imperfect> hahahahaha
#1624 [18:57] <imperfect> yesss
#1625 [18:57] <imperfect> idk why but thats awesome to me
#1626 [18:58] <imperfect> maybe i can get a new laptop for HP..
#1627 [18:58] <imperfect> idk
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#1629 [19:01] <imperfect> GreyVulpine: *shoots himself* http://pastebin.com/V0cpns5j
#1630 [19:01] <imperfect> its funny cause it worked like a week ago..
#1631 [19:01] <Ketsueki> imperfect: at the moment, the best option for a gaming laptop involves windows 7, and an nvidia card that can combine with the intel framebuffer. HOWEVER if you wait about 3 months, AMD should be launching the successor to llano and that should give you more options and better prices irrespective of what you select.
#1632 [19:02] <imperfect> i was looking into that..
#1633 [19:02] <imperfect> im building a pc..
#1634 [19:02] <imperfect> 1sec ill link you to wishlist on newegg.
#1635 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Jiggler - camera moving exceptionally slow while video is sped up by video editing software.
#1636 [19:03] <Ketsueki> imperfect: try this instead of the 256 line: java -Xmx768M -Xms768M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1637 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Jiggler - Many mods can do camerawork like this.
#1638 [19:03] <imperfect> k, gotta love batch programs
#1639 [19:03] <imperfect> always liked fooling the kids with like shutting down the computers with em :P
#1640 [19:04] <morphalias> hey, can you please help with my minecraft server?
#1641 [19:04] <imperfect> just gave me some kinda error message
#1642 [19:05] <morphalias> the ip address is my ipv4 address, and I can connect but my friend can not!
#1643 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> imperfect - What error message?
#1644 [19:05] <imperfect> are you using logmein morph?
#1645 [19:05] <Ketsueki> morphalias: does 'your ip' start with 10. 172. or 192. ?
#1646 [19:05] <imperfect> and 1 sec grey
#1647 [19:05] <morphalias> 192!
#1648 [19:05] <morphalias> it is port forwarding!
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#1650 [19:06] <Ketsueki> morphalias: that's not your IP, you need to get the outside IP not your inside-NAT IP
#1651 [19:06] <imperfect> not an error sorry
#1652 [19:06] <imperfect> but like a list of things in command prompt
#1653 [19:06] <morphalias> what is that ip?
#1654 [19:06] <imperfect> doesnt load minecraft
#1655 [19:06] <Ketsueki> http://www.google.com/search?q=find+my+ip
#1656 [19:07] <imperfect> GreyVulpine: thats what im looking into, unless i decide to get the new line of amd.. https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=15975651
#1657 [19:08] <imperfect> GreyVulpine:https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=18065125
#1658 [19:08] <imperfect> meant that
#1659 [19:08] <Ketsueki> imperfect: the 'upper' (>=150USD MSRP) 7xxx cards AMD will be releasing soon sound VERY nice.
#1660 [19:08] <imperfect> yes i heard first half of 2012
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#1662 [19:08] <imperfect> am looking forward to that :D
#1663 [19:09] <Ketsueki> imperfect: yeah mid Q2 is likely for the mid-range cards
#1664 [19:09] <imperfect> hopefully they are still cheap like the phenom series
#1665 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> imperfect - Would be nice if you can pastebin the error you're getting from command prompt
#1666 [19:09] <Ketsueki> http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=18065125 << imperfect you meant THAT link for GreyVulpine and me
#1667 [19:09] <imperfect> how do you copy in command prompt again?
#1668 [19:10] <Ketsueki> imperfect: right click, mark, select right click again
#1669 [19:10] <imperfect> yes u did
#1670 [19:10] <imperfect> k
#1671 [19:11] <imperfect> http://pastebin.com/girbasqe
#1672 [19:11] <Ketsueki> imperfect: 3 things: #1) save up for 3-6 more months. #2) http://www.anandtech.com/ #3) http://www.xbitlabs.com/
#1673 [19:12] <imperfect> thats what i was thinking, cause i have to save in the first place
#1674 [19:12] <imperfect> itll probably take 3-6 months
#1675 [19:12] <imperfect> wait what are the two links you gave me?
#1676 [19:13] <imperfect> websites like newegg?
#1677 [19:13] <Ketsueki> imperfect: those websites are... more or less news trackers for various tech industry things.
#1678 [19:13] <imperfect> ah,
#1679 [19:13] <Ketsueki> Reading them will help educate you about how to get the best value for your dollar.
#1680 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> imperfect - Instead of -cp minecraft.jar, try -jar minecraft.jar
#1681 [19:14] <imperfect> k
#1682 [19:15] <imperfect> http://pastebin.com/gJG2mTAj
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#1684 [19:16] <Wug> lol girbasqe
#1685 [19:17] <Wug> what a beautiful pastebin link
#1686 [19:17] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: it looks pretty solidly like he has no opengl
#1687 [19:17] <Wug> imperfect: if you're going to use -cp you need to specify the class as well
#1688 [19:18] <Wug> the class is net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1689 [19:18] <imperfect> didnt use -cp
#1690 [19:18] <Wug> you did the first time
#1691 [19:18] <imperfect> ended up using -kar
#1692 [19:18] <imperfect> jar
#1693 [19:18] <Wug> and theres no point in specifying -Xms
#1694 [19:18] <imperfect> right
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#1696 [19:18] <Wug> "java -Xmx768M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#1697 [19:19] <imperfect> vvk
#1698 [19:19] <Ketsueki> Actually the point would be to force it to allocate all it's memory in one shot... but try it without it.
#1699 [19:19] <Wug> Ketsueki: there really is no point in doing that
#1700 [19:19] <imperfect> still crashes..
#1701 [19:20] <Wug> though as was pointed out, you need to update your drivers
#1702 [19:20] <imperfect> what happened between this time i played and last time i played like a week ago..
#1703 [19:20] <imperfect> thats keeping this from working?
#1704 [19:20] <Wug> windows might have automatically updated a driver or something
#1705 [19:20] <Ketsueki> Dunno, what /did/ happen to your computer imperfect?
#1706 [19:20] <Wug> and the new one may not have worked
#1707 [19:20] <imperfect> i updated the drivers to my gpu
#1708 [19:21] <Ketsueki> I guess as a last effort he could try re-installing Intel's driver
#1709 [19:21] <imperfect> because minecraft didnt work
#1710 [19:21] <imperfect> then it worked after that
#1711 [19:21] <iPixeli> is there something wrong with the minecraft database right now? I changed my password hours ago
#1712 [19:21] <Ketsueki> It's really the only thing left to try with this hardware
#1713 [19:21] <imperfect> havent installed anything since.. and now minecraft doesnt work
#1714 [19:21] <Wug> windows drivers often perform poorly with opengl
#1715 [19:21] <imperfect> tbh i give up with this laptop..
#1716 [19:21] <Wug> iPixeli: we have no way to know. try again
#1717 [19:21] <imperfect> i can even keep 30 frames in normal distance
#1718 [19:22] <iPixeli> Wug ive tried every 30 minutes or so
#1719 [19:22] <imperfect> can't eve*
#1720 [19:22] <Wug> iPixeli: does it say its working
#1721 [19:23] <iPixeli> Wug you know how it behaves when you have it wrong? and then it gives you the play offline button? My other account works just fine. And I am able to loginto minecraft.net:80 just fine.
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#1723 [19:23] <imperfect> what sucks is that the floods in thailand raised hard drive prices up to twice as much as they used to be :S
#1724 [19:23] <morphalias> 76.249.21.35
#1725 [19:24] <morphalias> does this work?
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#1727 [19:24] <Ketsueki> !test 76.249.21.35
#1728 [19:24] <Ketsueki> !check 76.249.21.35
#1729 [19:24] <Ketsueki> or whatever that command was. Ah one of them worked
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#1731 [19:24] <Ketsueki> morphalias: looks like you might have a port-forwarding or wrong-IP issue
#1732 [19:25] <MagicLantern> Quick Question. Is there any keypress to find out my coords?
#1733 [19:25] <morphalias> I can connect but my friend can not!
#1734 [19:25] <Ketsueki> morphalias: F3 in debug will show you them.
#1735 [19:25] <Ketsueki> morphalias: well the bot here can't either.
#1736 [19:25] <MagicLantern> sweet, thanks
#1737 [19:25] <Ketsueki> morphalias: wrong IP, wrong port-map, or firewall somewhere; take your pick.
#1738 [19:25] <morphalias> that is my external IP address!
#1739 [19:25] <morphalias> well, my IP is protected by homeland security
#1740 [19:26] <Ketsueki> One down, two to check
#1741 [19:26] <morphalias> port map?
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#1744 [19:27] <iPixeli> Nick: morphalias
#1745 [19:27] <iPixeli> Username: webchat@adsl-76-249-21-35.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net
#1746 [19:27] <Ketsueki> morphalias: I really can't help you with that; you have to know how to work with your own hardware.
#1747 [19:27] <iPixeli> >.>
#1748 [19:27] <imperfect> iPixeli
#1749 [19:27] <iPixeli> ?
#1750 [19:27] <morphalias> I don't work with my own hardware.
#1751 [19:27] <imperfect> did you watch any vids on how to do it?
#1752 [19:27] <morphalias> my dad manages it
#1753 [19:27] <iPixeli> how to do what
#1754 [19:27] <imperfect> set up a server with port forwarding?
#1755 [19:28] <iPixeli> ive known that for awhile o.o
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#1757 [19:28] <imperfect> o.o well rewatch them if your having trouble maybe you missed something
#1758 [19:28] <JohnEBH> portforward.com might help >.>
#1759 [19:28] <iPixeli> Is there more than one person who needs help?
#1760 [19:28] <Ketsueki> morphalias: http://www.google.com/search?q=minecraft+port+map You might also need to allow it in through your anti-virus or windows-firewalls
#1761 [19:29] <morphalias> it is allowed.
#1762 [19:29] <morphalias> there is exceptions for TDP!
#1763 [19:29] <imperfect> what sucks is its only minecraft that has problems.. :S other games play just fine
#1764 [19:29] <iPixeli> ?portforward
#1765 [19:29] <morphalias> TCP, I mean!
#1766 [19:29] <iPixeli> .r portforward http://www.simpleportforwarding.com/download
#1767 [19:29] <morphalias> it is only minecraft that has problems!
#1768 [19:29] <iPixeli> oh im so not voiced.
#1769 [19:29] <JohnEBH> lol ^
#1770 [19:30] <iPixeli> but you can use this to port forward for you: http://www.simpleportforwarding.com/download Do you know your setup?
#1771 [19:30] <morphalias> 76.249.21.35
#1772 [19:30] <morphalias> I can not connect using this!
#1773 [19:30] <morphalias> but I can connect in my internal ip address!
#1774 [19:30] <iPixeli> okay.
#1775 [19:30] <iPixeli> Tell me how your internet is. Do you have one router? two routers?
#1776 [19:31] <morphalias> one!
#1777 [19:31] <iPixeli> that is usually the case morphalias.
#1778 [19:31] <iPixeli> okay
#1779 [19:31] <iPixeli> do you know how to access it's web interface?
#1780 [19:31] <morphalias> my dad did.
#1781 [19:31] <morphalias> he was accessing it for me.
#1782 [19:32] <iPixeli> have you asked him to portforward?
#1783 [19:32] <morphalias> yep!
#1784 [19:32] <morphalias> he did!
#1785 [19:32] <Ketsueki> Then you'll need your dad to add minecraft's port and map it to whichever computer... well it doesn't seem to be going through.
#1786 [19:32] <iPixeli> for 25565 to your computer?
#1787 [19:32] <Ketsueki> !test 76.249.21.35
#1788 [19:32] <morphalias> it goes through 25565 to my computer!
#1789 [19:32] <morphalias> '
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#1792 [19:33] <iPixeli> Is the minecraft server on a different comptuer than the one you are using now?
#1793 [19:33] <Ketsueki> !check 76.249.21.35
#1794 [19:33] <morphalias> um, it was setup on the other computer!
#1795 [19:33] <Ketsueki> Might the port-forward be pointing to the /other/ computer?
#1796 [19:33] <iPixeli> okay. which computer are you having run the minecraft server at the moment
#1797 [19:33] <iPixeli> ketsueki i got this.
#1798 [19:33] <morphalias> this one
#1799 [19:34] <iPixeli> alright go to the other one
#1800 [19:34] <iPixeli> and start up the server.
#1801 [19:34] <morphalias> I do not have minecraft there!
#1802 [19:34] <imperfect> dl it? >.>
#1803 [19:34] <morphalias> is there any way I do not have to do that?
#1804 [19:34] <Ketsueki> morphalias: the server and the client need not be on the same computer
#1805 [19:34] <iPixeli> Is the minecraft server on a different comptuer than the one you are using now? "um, it was setup on the other computer!"
#1806 [19:34] <morphalias> that would be a HUGE pain.
#1807 [19:35] <Ketsueki> morphalias: can you run the server on the other computer just for a little testing?
#1808 [19:35] <iPixeli> morphalias do you want to get it working or not.
#1809 [19:35] <iPixeli> what he said.
#1810 [19:35] <morphalias> okay fine, I'll be right back.
#1811 [19:36] <iPixeli> !check 76.249.21.35
#1812 [19:36] <Ketsueki> I can't wait for IPv6
#1813 [19:36] <iPixeli> what do you mean o.o it already is in use.
#1814 [19:36] <iPixeli> just not everywhere...
#1815 [19:36] <Ketsueki> Not by every shitty consumer ISP
#1816 [19:36] <iPixeli> lol =]
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#1818 [19:37] <iPixeli> Wug you should check this out and .r it. http://www.pcwintech.com/simple-port-tester
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#1820 [19:37] <Ketsueki> !check 76.249.21.35
#1821 [19:37] <iPixeli> ive used it before i knew what i was doing
#1822 [19:37] <iPixeli> @wug.
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#1824 [19:38] <Wug> iPixeli: we can use the bot for it
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#1826 [19:38] <Wug> aubot and wugbot both have check
#1827 [19:38] <iPixeli> this sets up the routers though
#1828 [19:38] <mib_shlx20> my minecraft wont work
#1829 [19:38] <bezaban> !check mc.snowcrashed.net
#1830 [19:39] <iPixeli> you tell it the model and password and bleh and it does it.
#1831 [19:39] <Wug> maybe. lots of things claim to do that though
#1832 [19:39] <iPixeli> ive used it lol
#1833 [19:39] <Wug> you can set factoids yourself
#1834 [19:39] <iPixeli> it didnt earlier o.o
#1835 [19:39] <Wug> ;+ something text goes here
#1836 [19:39] <WugBot> Done.
#1837 [19:39] <figaro> Hi there. We recently set up a sever. 5 of my friends are able to connect however 3 of us arn't. It says it cannot reach the server - we have opened the appropriate ports and such and checked versions. Done a force update too. Any ideas?
#1838 [19:39] <iPixeli> lol
#1839 [19:39] <iPixeli> something text goes here
#1840 [19:39] <iPixeli> +
#1841 [19:40] <bezaban> figaro: what error messages are they getting?
#1842 [19:40] <Wug> :something
#1843 [19:40] <WugBot> something: text goes here
#1844 [19:40] <iPixeli> oh.. :D
#1845 [19:40] <Wug> ;; is newline
#1846 [19:40] <imperfect> ive got a non minecraft problem, anyone want a go? when i run League of Legends it gives me an error saying "unable to load direct3d"
#1847 [19:40] <Wug> imperfect: this is not #leagueoflegendshelp
#1848 [19:40] <imperfect> i know
#1849 [19:40] <Wug> fix your graphics drivers
#1850 [19:40] <iPixeli> ;+ portforwarder Give it the router model & password and it will portforward for you! http://www.pcwintech.com/simple-port-tester
#1851 [19:40] <WugBot> Done.
#1852 [19:40] <imperfect> if only..
#1853 [19:41] <iPixeli> portforwarder
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#1855 [19:41] <imperfect> i can reinstall and thats all i got.
#1856 [19:41] <imperfect> its not like i can replcae this in a laptop.
#1857 [19:41] <bezaban> imperfect: directx
#1858 [19:41] <imperfect> otherwise i would
#1859 [19:41] <iPixeli> portforwarder
#1860 [19:41] <figaro> was that directed at me ipixeli, the port tester?
#1861 [19:41] <iPixeli> :portforwarder
#1862 [19:41] <WugBot> portforwarder: Give it the router model & password and it will portforward for you! http://www.pcwintech.com/simple-port-tester
#1863 [19:41] <iPixeli> no =]
#1864 [19:41] <figaro> ok lol
#1865 [19:42] <Wug> imperfect: fix your graphics drivers
#1866 [19:42] <Wug> they are software
#1867 [19:42] <imperfect> so how does one go about fixing that?
#1868 [19:43] <Wug> if it worked before and does not now then its a software problem
#1869 [19:43] <imperfect> installing directx?
#1870 [19:43] <Wug> what graphics card do you have
#1871 [19:43] <imperfect> 1sec
#1872 [19:43] <figaro> Did anyone manage to have a look at my minecraft issue?
#1873 [19:43] <bezaban> figaro: what error messages are they getting?
#1874 [19:43] <iPixeli> figaro do you have the max slots on the server over 5?
#1875 [19:43] <bezaban> oh right. cannot reach server
#1876 [19:43] <bezaban> try pinging it
#1877 [19:43] <figaro> It will poll the server and then say can't reach server.
#1878 [19:44] <figaro> the max is set to 250
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#1881 [19:44] <figaro> how do i ping it?
#1882 [19:44] <iPixeli> ^ try pinging it
#1883 [19:44] <bezaban> well.. *they* would have to
#1884 [19:44] <iPixeli> do they use windows?
#1885 [19:44] <figaro> yes
#1886 [19:44] <bezaban> but if polling works that shouldn't be an issue
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#1888 [19:44] <iPixeli> start>run>cmd ping YOURIP
#1889 [19:45] <figaro> the IP of the minecraft server i take it?
#1890 [19:45] <iPixeli> is polling directed to ports? i think it is.
#1891 [19:45] <wazthatme> hey i payed for minecraft 2 days ago and i have not got it yet whats up?
#1892 [19:45] <iPixeli> yes
#1893 [19:45] <imperfect> Wug: cant find it :S but i know that it sucks? and that its in a 3 year old computer...
#1894 [19:45] <imperfect> laptop*
#1895 [19:45] <bezaban> figaro: are the 5 users able to connect on your local network? What is your server ip? :)
#1896 [19:45] <imperfect> nvm found it
#1897 [19:46] <iPixeli> well ima go gl :D
#1898 [19:46] <imperfect> Mobile Intel(R) 965 express chipset family
#1899 [19:46] <figaro> they can connect, but the server is located at a local school
#1900 [19:46] <figaro> and tried pinging it and it won't see it
#1901 [19:47] <figaro> hwoeever my house mate tried, turned some settings on and it would see it - but it still wouldn't connect
#1902 [19:47] <Wug> imperfect: grab us a dxdiag report
#1903 [19:47] <Wug> :dx
#1904 [19:47] <WugBot> dx: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1905 [19:47] <WugBot> dx: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1906 [19:47] <iPixeli> the school probally is blocking it figaro
#1907 [19:47] <iPixeli> you should host from home, or find a server you can all play on
#1908 [19:47] <figaro> but there is one of the guys sat next to me on the same network playing it
#1909 [19:47] <imperfect> i have one :3 up top lemme find the link again
#1910 [19:47] <wazthatme> if its on a school server its most likely blocked
#1911 [19:47] <iPixeli> figaro school networks get crazy. Trust me.
#1912 [19:47] <Wug> figaro: exactly, on the same network
#1913 [19:47] <figaro> the it manager of that school is here and the correct ports are open
#1914 [19:48] <Wug> try playing it at home
#1915 [19:48] <imperfect> http://pastebin.com/zSrci2MJ
#1916 [19:48] <imperfect> i did that one like an hour ago
#1917 [19:48] <iPixeli> it would be due to switches
#1918 [19:48] <Morphalias_> the ip address does not work !
#1919 [19:48] <Morphalias_> I can not connect to the public ip address
#1920 [19:48] <Wug> imperfect: you could have sent me the same link, I wasnt watching an hour ago
#1921 [19:48] <Morphalias_> !
#1922 [19:49] <iPixeli> :portforwarder
#1923 [19:49] <bezaban> figaro: the correct ports don't seem to be open.
#1924 [19:49] <WugBot> portforwarder: Give it the router model & password and it will portforward for you! http://www.pcwintech.com/simple-port-tester
#1925 [19:49] <iPixeli> have your dad do it or use that ^
#1926 [19:49] <figaro> we have the sever hosted on a local school. My house mates are able to log on, i and 2 others are not however. the It manager doesn't have any random things blocked, opened ports. i think it may be an issue with versions hwoever i have done a force update
#1927 [19:50] <imperfect> that is the same link >.>
#1928 [19:50] <imperfect> Wug:^
#1929 [19:50] <bezaban> differing client versions (should) trigger a message for that
#1930 [19:50] <Wug> imperfect: ok
#1931 [19:50] <bezaban> nmap the IP from the outside to see open ports
#1932 [19:50] <imperfect> mhm
#1933 [19:50] <Wug> uninstall your graphics driver
#1934 [19:50] <bezaban> or supply the ip
#1935 [19:50] <Wug> you should be able to do that from the control panel
#1936 [19:50] <Wug> then download and install this one: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=17407&ProdId=2800&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20Vista%2032*&DownloadType=
#1937 [19:51] <figaro> bezaban, was that directed at me?
#1938 [19:51] <Wug> make sure you uninstall first so the new one will install cleanly
#1939 [19:51] <bezaban> figaro: yes. sorry
#1940 [19:51] <Wug> if the old one is damaged somehow then its important that you do it that way
#1941 [19:51] <bezaban> figaro: can check what it looks like from here
#1942 [19:51] <iPixeli> >< figaro... your doing this at a school... Schools are filled with controls to prevent lots of things. IF ANY device is between two of your computers its likely not going to work. Have the it test ping from all the computers your friends are using to the mcserver. If it doesnt ping successfully its probally due to the school's poor network structure and is likely they are using a lot of hubs.
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#1944 [19:51] <imperfect> Wug: ok
#1945 [19:52] <bezaban> figaro: is it 86.171.114.78??
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#1947 [19:52] <iPixeli> There are many many things other than this that could be wrong. So just play at home, or find a public server.
#1948 [19:52] <Cat> Hey, when I try to start up Minecraft, the one that I downloaded, it says that I can't connect to Minecraft.net
#1949 [19:53] <wazthatme> cat try to redownload it
#1950 [19:53] <Cat> ok ill try that
#1951 [19:53] <imperfect> wow..
#1952 [19:53] <figaro> No it isn't bezaban. and i don't really want to give the IP out on a public forum
#1953 [19:53] <imperfect> this is like 5 pixels
#1954 [19:53] <bezaban> figaro: IPs aren't secret, but then I can't help you
#1955 [19:54] <imperfect> its like im playing super nintendo.. not really. but jesus this is defiantly a lot worse than those drivers
#1956 [19:54] <bezaban> security isn't there because people know your adress, it's there by locking your door :P
#1957 [19:54] <Wug> imperfect: install the new one
#1958 [19:54] <Cat> Yeah, it's still not working..
#1959 [19:55] <Wug> if you already have, then set the resolution back
#1960 [19:55] <bezaban> figaro: I suggest you portscan the school from the outside to see open ports, assuming it is sanctioned by the school.
#1961 [19:55] <Wug> Cat: has it ever worked
#1962 [19:55] <Cat> I dunno, this is my first time trying it
#1963 [19:55] <Wug> ;check figaro
#1964 [19:55] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: host86-171-114-78.range86-171.btcentralplus.com:25565 (Timed out)
#1965 [19:55] <Cat> I think it may be the computer =^= I'm on the old desktop
#1966 [19:55] <imperfect> last revised in march 2009... facepalm
#1967 [19:55] <figaro> bezaban we use: remote.middlewichhigh.cheshire.sch.uk:110
#1968 [19:55] <bezaban> 110 is pop3 port..
#1969 [19:56] <Wug> imperfect: its a truly ancient chipset
#1970 [19:56] <figaro> whats a pop3 port?
#1971 [19:56] <bezaban> used for email
#1972 [19:56] <Wug> its a port that something else uses
#1973 [19:56] <bezaban> bad choice of port
#1974 [19:56] <figaro> i know,however everyone else has connected off it
#1975 [19:56] <figaro> will it just be unreliable?
#1976 [19:56] <Ketsueki> figaro: pick a port above 1024
#1977 [19:56] <Wug> they got lucky
#1978 [19:56] <Wug> use like 40000 or something
#1979 [19:56] <imperfect> so ive noticed.. :P
#1980 [19:56] <imperfect> i gotta restart.. so ill be back momentarily..
#1981 [19:56] <Wug> or just use the default one at 25565
#1982 [19:56] <bezaban> yes. don't use 110 if you school is running pop3, which is very common
#1983 [19:56] <Cat> Though, if school computers can run Minecraft I don't know why this stupid thing can't
#1984 [19:57] <bezaban> :P
#1985 [19:57] <Wug> or you could stop trying to play minecraft at school and learn things
#1986 [19:57] <figaro> :P
#1987 [19:57] <wazthatme> cat get new java force update
#1988 [19:57] <Ketsueki> Later
#1989 [19:57] <figaro> i'm not at school, just running the sever off it
#1990 [19:57] <Cat> I can't even play in browser because it wont load
#1991 [19:57] <figaro> long story
#1992 [19:57] <Cat> Ok, I'll try that as well..
#1993 [19:57] <Wug> Cat: has it ever worked
#1994 [19:57] <Wug> answer the question
#1995 [19:57] <figaro> Bezaban, should i just ask him to change ports then?
#1996 [19:57] <Wug> (on that computer)
#1997 [19:57] <Cat> Wug: Like I said, this is the first time doing it
#1998 [19:58] <bezaban> figaro: yes. standard minecraft port is fine
#1999 [19:58] <bezaban> figaro: picked specifically to be out of the way :)
#2000 [19:58] <Wug> Cat: does your windows username have a ! in it
#2001 [19:58] <Cat> Wug: No
#2002 [19:59] <Wug> Cat: you're 100% sure? you have all the symptoms, cant connect to minecraft.net from client, black screen from browser
#2003 [19:59] <bezaban> figaro: needs to be opened for outside access in the firewall
#2004 [19:59] <Wug> Cat: open a command prompt and tell me the folder it starts at
#2005 [19:59] <Cat> Wug: I haven't really changed it since I rebooted the computer..it's HP_Owner, still, if I'm sure that's what you're talking about
#2006 [20:00] <morphalias> hey, how do I make minecraft use more ram?
#2007 [20:00] <figaro> bezaban much appreciated. Why do you think the others managed to log on? Is there anything i can copy from their machines over onto mine to make it work like theirs?
#2008 [20:00] <figaro> or am i clutching at straws
#2009 [20:00] <Wug> I have to go eat. Ill be back later
#2010 [20:00] <bezaban> figaro: no, it's probably pop3 interfering. Don't run two services on the same port
#2011 [20:01] <Cat> Ok..can someone else help me while Wug is gone?
#2012 [20:01] <wazthatme> ok cat um so nothing i said worked?
#2013 [20:01] <Cat> wazthatme: I'm actually still waiting for the Java update to download
#2014 [20:01] <wazthatme> ok
#2015 [20:01] <bezaban> figaro: and your school shouldn't be running ftp ;)
#2016 [20:02] <wazthatme> says it cant find .net right?
#2017 [20:02] <Cat> It can't connect
#2018 [20:03] <wazthatme> well it gave me that one time and minecraft did not download the .net file for minecraft
#2019 [20:03] <Cat> Oh..
#2020 [20:04] <wazthatme> so have you tryed to update you minecraft yet? on the pc that is
#2021 [20:04] <Cat> I just downloaded it
#2022 [20:04] <wazthatme> ok
#2023 [20:04] <Cat> And redownloaded it as suggested
#2024 [20:04] <wazthatme> ok btw what OS do you have like windows xp or what
#2025 [20:05] <Cat> XP because this is the old computer
#2026 [20:05] <wazthatme> ok
#2027 [20:05] <wazthatme> have you played on the user name before?
#2028 [20:05] <wazthatme> on like a diff pc
#2029 [20:05] <Cat> No, this is my first time trying to play it
#2030 [20:05] <Cat> At all
#2031 [20:05] <wazthatme> ok
#2032 [20:06] <wazthatme> so have you tryed it again?
#2033 [20:06] <Cat> Ah! Downloading Java worked
#2034 [20:06] <Cat> Thank you so much
#2035 [20:06] <wazthatme> yea that what i tought lol
#2036 [20:06] <wazthatme> yep yep
#2037 [20:07] <Cat> Haha xD
#2038 [20:07] <bezaban> aight
#2039 [20:07] <Cat> Thanks~
#2040 [20:07] <bezaban> all fixed for now
#2041 [20:07] <bezaban> *waits*
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#2043 [20:07] <wazthatme> now can some one help me
#2044 [20:08] <bezaban> oh sorry
#2045 [20:08] <bezaban> what's your issue? :)
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#2047 [20:08] <imperfect> all done.. lets see if it works
#2048 [20:08] <wazthatme> lol i payed for mc 2 days ago and still have yet to get it what should i do?
#2049 [20:08] <bezaban> wazthatme: oh crap. payment issues
#2050 [20:08] <imperfect> get it?
#2051 [20:08] <bezaban> there are a lot of them
#2052 [20:08] <wazthatme> yea
#2053 [20:08] <imperfect> wug: it worked <3
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#2055 [20:09] <bezaban> not the expert there sadly, has it been withdrawn from your account?
#2056 [20:09] <wazthatme> ill tell you what went down
#2057 [20:09] <bezaban> !paid wazthatme
#2058 [20:09] <bezaban> got mc username?
#2059 [20:09] <imperfect> wazthatme: mc username?
#2060 [20:09] <wazthatme> yes thats my name
#2061 [20:10] <wazthatme> but
#2062 [20:10] <wazthatme> 1st it said it didnt go though but then it said it did
#2063 [20:10] <imperfect> how did you buy it? through paypal?
#2064 [20:10] <bezaban> I'm sorry but I can't help with payment issues
#2065 [20:10] <wazthatme> no card
#2066 [20:10] <bezaban> no idea
#2067 [20:11] <imperfect> is it on your credit card statement?
#2068 [20:11] <wazthatme> idk i have to ask my mother i used her
#2069 [20:11] <imperfect> i would do that, cause if its not on there. then it didnt go through
#2070 [20:11] <imperfect> i bought mine and instantly had access to mc.
#2071 [20:12] <imperfect> so chnaces are it didnt go through and its a delay in the bank due to it being a holiday.
#2072 [20:12] <wazthatme> thanks ill try again and yea
#2073 [20:12] <bezaban> me too, but seen quite a few having problems
#2074 [20:12] <imperfect> yep.
#2075 [20:12] <bezaban> and yeah, holiday times and
#2076 [20:12] <bezaban> traffic
#2077 [20:12] <imperfect> i deposited a check saturday and it hasnt gone through yet so im in the same boat.
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#2081 [20:17] <bezaban> figaro: any luck?
#2082 [20:19] <bezaban> bah, he left
#2083 [20:20] <bezaban> machine had imap and pop3 open, while imaps and smtps were filtered, so assuming they're running some pop3
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#2086 [20:24] <alex504405> hello i am having a problem with loging into minecraft
#2087 [20:25] <alex504405> anyone there?
#2088 [20:25] <bezaban> alex504405: needs a few tries sometimes :(
#2089 [20:25] <alex504405> huh?
#2090 [20:26] <alex504405> ask a few times?
#2091 [20:26] <bezaban> a few connection tries
#2092 [20:27] <bezaban> what's your minecraft username?
#2093 [20:27] <alex504405> alex504405
#2094 [20:27] <alex504405> XD
#2095 [20:27] <bezaban> !paid alex504405
#2096 [20:27] <bezaban> :P
#2097 [20:27] <alex504405> ok...
#2098 [20:27] <bezaban> you can't connect at all?
#2099 [20:27] <alex504405> lol
#2100 [20:27] <alex504405> no it says login error
#2101 [20:27] <bezaban> tried a few times?
#2102 [20:27] <bezaban> sometimes I need to try multiple times
#2103 [20:28] <bezaban> and using web client or downloaded one?
#2104 [20:28] <alex504405> yes i did yesterday untill it said to many failed logins
#2105 [20:28] <alex504405> downloaded
#2106 [20:28] <bezaban> :(
#2107 [20:28] <morphalias> !paid morphalias
#2108 [20:28] <alex504405> i have had minecraft fir a year now and this is the first time this has happended
#2109 [20:29] <morphalias> !server
#2110 [20:29] <bezaban> I've had those issues sometimes, but I usually get in eventually
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#2112 [20:29] <alex504405> !paid ez
#2113 [20:29] <alex504405> XD
#2114 [20:29] <morphalias> !paid honeydew
#2115 [20:29] <alex504405> well it wont let me in
#2116 [20:29] <morphalias> !paid notch
#2117 [20:29] * AuBot kicked morphalias from #minecrafthelp (Reason: orphalias :notch has paid for Minecraft!)
#2118 [20:29] <bezaban> haha
#2119 [20:29] <alex504405> lol
#2120 [20:30] <mchelpplz> Hi, so all of a sudden I'm getting stuck on the white "Mojang" screen after I launch Minecraft, I tried to search the support forums but there are about a million search results with 400 different suggestions for things that "might" fix it. I tried several and nothing helped and I can find no offical word about this issue. Any help to be found here?
#2121 [20:30] <iPixeli> Are you using mods
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#2123 [20:30] <bezaban> wb ;)
#2124 [20:30] <mchelpplz> I deleted everything, I redownloaded and installed both minecraft and java, so no, no mods now
#2125 [20:31] <morphalias> !paid aubot
#2126 [20:31] <morphalias> haha no!
#2127 [20:31] <morphalias> no you have not!
#2128 [20:31] <alex504405> !paid stfumorphalias
#2129 [20:31] <alex504405> lol
#2130 [20:32] <mchelpplz> There are a LOT of posts on the support forums about this issue, but no fixes. It just happened suddenly for no reason. I tried to log in one day and couldn't :(
#2131 [20:32] <iPixeli> mchelpplz
#2132 [20:32] <alex504405> do !paid jeb
#2133 [20:32] <bezaban> mchelpplz: might have some issues with graphics drives, although a longshot :/
#2134 [20:32] <morphalias> !paid jec
#2135 [20:32] <bezaban> drivers*
#2136 [20:32] <morphalias> !paid jeb
#2137 [20:32] <bezaban> stop spamming please morphalias
#2138 [20:32] <alex504405> plz
#2139 [20:32] <alex504405> so no fix for the login errors?
#2140 [20:33] <mchelpplz> No, sorry, logging in isn't the problem. I shouldn't have said it that way. I can login, I can't get past the white "Mojang" splash screen
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#2142 [20:33] <bezaban> alex504405: worked perfectly for me just now
#2143 [20:33] <mchelpplz> the entire game locks up and I have to ctrl+alt+del to shut it down
#2144 [20:33] <alex504405> huh?
#2145 [20:33] <bezaban> alex504405: logged in just fine seconds ago
#2146 [20:33] <alex504405> mchel i think minecraft may keep crashing
#2147 [20:33] <alex504405> for you
#2148 [20:33] <bezaban> mchelpplz: runnig sun java?
#2149 [20:33] <alex504405> well is it my cpu bezaban?
#2150 [20:34] <bezaban> 64bit?
#2151 [20:34] <bezaban> alex504405: no idea :(
#2152 [20:34] <alex504405> and how u loged into my account?
#2153 [20:34] <bezaban> alex504405: hehe, I didn't. Just saying logging in works for me
#2154 [20:34] <alex504405> oh
#2155 [20:34] <iPixeli> !haspaid mchelpplz
#2156 [20:34] <mchelpplz> I downloaded the latest 64 bit release from java.com, so whatever that is
#2157 [20:34] <alex504405> !paid mchelpplz
#2158 [20:35] <morphalias> the ban hammer has spoken!
#2159 [20:35] <mchelpplz> mchelpplz is a name I created for joining this to ask for help, not my account name for minecraft
#2160 [20:35] <alex504405> ok
#2161 [20:35] <mchelpplz> My account name is sam76108
#2162 [20:35] <morphalias> !paid sam76108
#2163 [20:35] <iPixeli> has minecraft worked for you before?
#2164 [20:36] <alex504405> well bezaban u think it is my mod i downloaded single player commands and then it broke
#2165 [20:36] <morphalias> mchelpplz - force update!
#2166 [20:36] <mchelpplz> Yes, Ive had it for a long time now, since before pistons. Everything was fine, then about 4 days ago I launched it and tried to login and it hung at the white Mojang splashscreen and wont go past it
#2167 [20:36] <alex504405> force update
#2168 [20:36] <iPixeli> o.o
#2169 [20:37] <iPixeli> ?java
#2170 [20:37] <mchelpplz> There are a TON of threads about this happening to people on the support forums, but no one has a fix. Lots of people suggest different things but none of it worked for me.
#2171 [20:37] <mchelpplz> I
#2172 [20:37] <iPixeli> Did java have an update or something?
#2173 [20:37] <mchelpplz> I have already deleted minecraft totally and redownloaded it, I have reinstalled java twice, I have forced updates, I've done all that stuff
#2174 [20:37] <alex504405> when u go to login click options and then force update then login try tht
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#2176 [20:37] <iPixeli> He has
#2177 [20:37] <mchelpplz> Already did that, it was the first thing I tried
#2178 [20:38] <alex504405> oh
#2179 [20:38] <mchelpplz> :(
#2180 [20:38] <iPixeli> Anyone know when the last sun java update was?
#2181 [20:38] <alex504405> no
#2182 [20:38] <alex504405> brb
#2183 [20:38] <oldtopman> ??> mchelpplz win/reinst/bat
#2184 [20:38] <VoxelHead> mchelpplz: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2185 [20:38] <VoxelHead> mchelpplz: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
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#2187 [20:39] <mib_u7bdbx> hello?
#2188 [20:40] <oldtopman> ??> mib_u7bdbx ask
#2189 [20:40] <VoxelHead> mib_u7bdbx: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2190 [20:40] <VoxelHead> mib_u7bdbx: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#2192 [20:41] <mchelpplz> No joy oldtopman, it still sticks at the mojang splash screen
#2193 [20:41] <oldtopman> mchelpplz: Downloaded version?
#2194 [20:41] <mchelpplz> I just redownloaded minecraft from the offical site about 10 minutes ago as part of trying to fix this myself
#2195 [20:41] <alex504405> umm i need help i keep getting the login failed error when i try to login
#2196 [20:41] <mchelpplz> so whatever that version is
#2197 [20:41] <mchelpplz> 1.0 I guess
#2198 [20:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> alex504405 whats your mc username
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#2200 [20:42] <alex504405> spoon it is alex504405
#2201 [20:42] <bezaban> alex504405: to be clear, this is logging into minecraft in the first window?
#2202 [20:42] <alex504405> i am paid
#2203 [20:42] <EmCeeStanky> so theres this problem with my forum avatar
#2204 [20:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> `paid alex504405
#2205 [20:42] <SinZBot> alex504405 has paid for Minecraft, I'll give them a hug some other time!
#2206 [20:42] <alex504405> XD
#2207 [20:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok then just checkin
#2208 [20:42] <EmCeeStanky> and its not animating
#2209 [20:42] <EmCeeStanky> -.-
#2210 [20:43] <alex504405> yes loging in in the first window
#2211 [20:43] <mib_u7bdbx> ok, well i purchased the game, it said something along the lines of "purchase successful" and it said something about being updated or something within the hour, so i downloaded the game, waited about two hours and tried to log in, but it keeps saying user not premium...
#2212 [20:43] <alex504405> give it time to up date mib
#2213 [20:43] <alex504405> iit could take up to a day
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#2215 [20:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> mib_u7bdbx - tried http://www.minecraft.net/support
#2216 [20:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?
#2217 [20:44] <mib_u7bdbx> ok, thanks because i did not know if my transaction did not go through, or something along those lines
#2218 [20:45] <EmCeeStanky> im having some issues with my animated avatar
#2219 [20:45] <EmCeeStanky> on minecraft forums
#2220 [20:45] <EmCeeStanky> and uh
#2221 [20:45] <EmCeeStanky> its not animating -.-
#2222 [20:45] <alex504405> wrong place for tht
#2223 [20:45] <alex504405> -_-
#2224 [20:45] <EmCeeStanky> kk
#2225 [20:45] <alex504405> XD
#2226 [20:45] <EmCeeStanky> well uh
#2227 [20:46] <EmCeeStanky> noones responding on the other one :\
#2228 [20:46] <EmCeeStanky> noones even talking
#2229 [20:46] <alex504405> what was it
#2230 [20:46] <EmCeeStanky> like my avatar wont animate
#2231 [20:46] <alex504405> wrong place for tht question -_-
#2232 [20:46] <oldtopman> EmCeeStanky: Try #minecraftforums
#2233 [20:46] <EmCeeStanky> k
#2234 [20:46] <alex504405> lol
#2235 [20:47] <oldtopman> mchelpplz: Login failed is not our fault. Make sure your password is correct. Same for your username.
#2236 [20:47] <mchelpplz> I didn't say anything about login failed, I can log in just fine
#2237 [20:47] <oldtopman> derp
#2238 [20:48] <oldtopman> Sorreh.
#2239 [20:48] <alex504405> i need help with my multiple login fails i cant login
#2240 [20:48] <EmCeeStanky> -.- no response
#2241 [20:48] <oldtopman> alex504405: Check your password and username.
#2242 [20:48] <alex504405> and my pass word and user name are in check
#2243 [20:48] <oldtopman> Disable firewall, etc
#2244 [20:48] <mchelpplz> I was hoping to get help here so I wouldn't add more clutter to the forums, but I guess I'll make a post there and see what people say
#2245 [20:48] <mchelpplz> I was hoping to get help here so I wouldn't add more clutter to the forums, but I guess I'll make a post there and see what people say
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#2247 [20:49] <alex504405> well its worked before this it just stoped working yesterday
#2248 [20:49] <oldtopman> ??> alex504405 win/reinst/bat
#2249 [20:49] <VoxelHead> alex504405: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2250 [20:49] <VoxelHead> alex504405: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#2251 [20:49] <alex504405> ok
#2252 [20:50] <alex504405> so i run tht then redownload mc?
#2253 [20:51] <alex504405> still getting login failed errors
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#2255 [20:52] <alex504405> any more ideas?
#2256 [20:53] <alex504405> still getting the login failed error what do i do now?
#2257 [20:55] <alex504405> hello?
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#2259 [20:56] <TechnoScrabble> I just bought and downloaded minecraft and when I start it up it flashes by the brown dirt and green loading bar too fast to see what it says and then gives me a black screen inside the window. I know that's sort of vague, but I'm wondering what could cause that.
#2260 [20:57] <TechnoScrabble> maybe i need to force update?
#2261 [20:57] <alex504405> try that
#2262 [20:57] <TechnoScrabble> yeah, that worked
#2263 [20:57] <alex504405> good
#2264 [20:57] <TechnoScrabble> sorry to bother you
#2265 [20:58] <alex504405> thats what their here for e XD
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#2268 [21:10] <azeem> Hello
#2269 [21:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> hai
#2270 [21:10] <azeem> i dont know if im tripping out or that my gold pick when mining iron doesnt give me iron *same with nikolite but my iron pick does it fine
#2271 [21:14] <azeem> hello can someone help me with my problem?
#2272 [21:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> you might need to see a doctor
#2273 [21:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? mods
#2274 [21:15] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2275 [21:15] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#2276 [21:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> nikolate sounds like a mod to me :)
#2277 [21:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> nikolate sounds like a mod to me :)
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#2284 [21:20] <alex504405> anyone have a fix to my failed logins?
#2285 [21:21] <Walker1212> How do you compile a classic server software as a whole?
#2286 [21:22] <alex504405> hello?
#2287 [21:23] <alex504405> minecraft keeps giving me thew failed login error
#2288 [21:24] <alex504405> any help at all?
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#2290 [21:24] <alex504405> thanks fo the help
#2291 [21:26] <Applesauce> I've been trying to purchase minecraft for the past 4 days and they havent accepted my visa debit card, prepaid visa debit card or my paypal, is there something going on with the site? ( i dont really have any other available payment options besides those 3)
#2292 [21:27] <alex504405> visa no work sorry
#2293 [21:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> er
#2294 [21:27] <TheNoodle> ..
#2295 [21:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> i bought mc with a visa debit
#2296 [21:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> so thats crap
#2297 [21:27] <bezaban> <-- too
#2298 [21:27] <alex504405> oh well prepaid dont
#2299 [21:27] <TheNoodle> alex504405, what are you on about?
#2300 [21:27] <Applesauce> is something wrong with the site then?
#2301 [21:27] <geraldbrent> Transfer money to your paypal, then try to buy it
#2302 [21:27] <Applesauce> i tried that gerald
#2303 [21:27] <geraldbrent> That's what I did
#2304 [21:27] <Applesauce> it says try a different method
#2305 [21:27] <geraldbrent> Might be the site then
#2306 [21:28] <Applesauce> and sends me back to merchant
#2307 [21:28] <Applesauce> do you know when it might be fixed?
#2308 [21:28] <alex504405> the noodle i keep getting the failed login error
#2309 [21:28] <Walker1212> How do you compile a classic server software? :)
#2310 [21:29] <Applesauce> so is the site for sure acting up?
#2311 [21:29] <Applesauce> Or don't they accept visa/paypal anymore?
#2312 [21:29] <alex504405> ik they don accept prepaid visa
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#2314 [21:30] <Applesauce> so they for sure still accept visa debit and paypal though right?
#2315 [21:30] <alex504405> idk
#2316 [21:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> yes
#2317 [21:30] <Applesauce> Do you have any idea why it isn't accepting purchases then? i've noticed alot of people have had this problem
#2318 [21:31] <Applesauce> i've been reading forums and it's been happening alot starting 2 months ago
#2319 [21:31] <Applesauce> or something like that?
#2320 [21:31] <alex504405> any help for my failed logins?
#2321 [21:31] <Arthus> Has anyone else had the problem where when you start Minecraft it says "Could not create java virtual machine." Or something like that?
#2322 [21:31] <alex504405> no
#2323 [21:31] <Applesauce> Or does anybody know a number i can call to contact an actual support moderator?
#2324 [21:32] <alex504405> no
#2325 [21:32] <alex504405> lol ima be the no guy
#2326 [21:32] <Applesauce> or anything like that?
#2327 [21:32] <alex504405> no
#2328 [21:32] <alex504405> i still need help
#2329 [21:33] <Applesauce> alex stop saying no please
#2330 [21:33] <alex504405> ok
#2331 [21:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://www.minecraft.net/support
#2332 [21:33] <Applesauce> But does anybody know a place i can go to talk to a moderator?
#2333 [21:33] <Applesauce> lol spoon
#2334 [21:33] <Applesauce> i used that alot of times :( doesnt help at all
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#2336 [21:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> help@mojang.net
#2337 [21:34] <Arthus> Spoon guy! Im sure thats why most of us are here. Thats where it says to go
#2338 [21:34] <alex504405> how do i fix the failed login error ?
#2339 [21:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> email them and ask, we dont deal with account issues
#2340 [21:35] <alex504405> it keeps happining
#2341 [21:35] <alex504405> me spoon?
#2342 [21:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> yes
#2343 [21:35] <Applesauce> Email who?
#2344 [21:35] <Arthus> I cant even start minecraft and ive had it sense the Beta was released >.<
#2345 [21:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> ./facepalm
#2346 [21:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> pls read what im putting
#2347 [21:35] <alex504405> its not my account its loging in to minecraft
#2348 [21:36] <alex504405> help god damn it i dont want feedback in 2 weeks i want it now
#2349 [21:36] <Applesauce> i tried going to that site and it doesn't let me
#2350 [21:36] <TheNoodle> ...
#2351 [21:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> we dont deal with account issues, alex
#2352 [21:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> read the topic
#2353 [21:36] <TheNoodle> Can you log into minecraft.net?
#2354 [21:36] <alex504405> its not fucking an accout issue
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#2357 [21:36] <alex504405> its not an account issue
#2358 [21:36] <TheNoodle> Answer my question please.
#2359 [21:36] <Applesauce> Yes noodle i can
#2360 [21:37] <TheNoodle> not you Applesauce :P
#2361 [21:37] <alex504405> i cant login to minecraft client
#2362 [21:37] <Applesauce> :( lol
#2363 [21:37] <TheNoodle> You come next :p
#2364 [21:37] <TheNoodle> ALEX
#2365 [21:37] <TheNoodle> Answer the question.
#2366 [21:37] <TheNoodle> Can you.
#2367 [21:37] <TheNoodle> Log in.
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#2369 [21:37] <TheNoodle> To minecraft.net
#2370 [21:37] <alex504405> i can login to minecraft.net
#2371 [21:37] <Arthus> This is like talking to a cable company lmao jk
#2372 [21:37] <alex504405> i allready am
#2373 [21:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> XDD
#2374 [21:38] <TheNoodle> Thank you for actually answering the question.
#2375 [21:38] <alex504405> your welcome Xd
#2376 [21:38] <alex504405> XD
#2377 [21:38] <TheNoodle> Now, what is the exact error you're getting when you try to log in using the client?
#2378 [21:38] <alex504405> login failed
#2379 [21:38] <Arthus> I used to get that all the time
#2380 [21:38] <TheNoodle> So not cannot connect to minecraft.net?
#2381 [21:39] <alex504405> no i cannot login\
#2382 [21:39] <TheNoodle> ..
#2383 [21:39] <alex504405> it doesnt give me the could not connect to minecraf.net error
#2384 [21:39] <TheNoodle> In that case it looks like an account issue.
#2385 [21:39] <alex504405> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
#2386 [21:40] <TheNoodle> The account system has been a bit broken because of the migration.,
#2387 [21:40] <Applesauce> migration?
#2388 [21:40] <alex504405> so should i try my email as my username?
#2389 [21:40] <TheNoodle> If you want I guess.
#2390 [21:40] <TheNoodle> Applesauce, some random login stuff.
#2391 [21:40] <alex504405> omfg that worked /facepalm
#2392 [21:40] <Arthus> LOLOLOL
#2393 [21:40] <alex504405> T___T
#2394 [21:41] <TheNoodle> See, migration issues.
#2395 [21:41] <alex504405> why didnt i think of tht?
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#2398 [21:41] <Walker1212> Does anyone know how to compile things?
#2399 [21:41] <alex504405> cause i bought cobalt like a week ago then the problems started happining
#2400 [21:41] <alex504405> well ty and bye
#2401 [21:41] <Arthus> Ok so who was before me?
#2402 [21:42] <TheNoodle> Walker1212 >javac somefile ?
#2403 [21:42] <Applesauce> when am i next? lol
#2404 [21:42] <Walker1212> erm what?
#2405 [21:42] <TheNoodle> Now :p
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#2407 [21:42] <TheNoodle> What's up Applesauce?
#2408 [21:42] <TheNoodle> Walker1212, javac is a command line program for compiling java.
#2409 [21:42] <SimenOlai_Phone> Wtf ?
#2410 [21:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> Walker, you modding mc?
#2411 [21:42] <Walker1212> No
#2412 [21:42] <Applesauce> I've been trying to purchase minecraft the past 4 days
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#2414 [21:43] <Walker1212> I have a classic minecraft software that needs compiling
#2415 [21:43] <Walker1212> but idk how
#2416 [21:43] <Applesauce> and it won't accept my visa debit card, prepaid visa card, or my paypal
#2417 [21:43] <TheNoodle> hang on...
#2418 [21:43] <TheNoodle> SimenOlai_Phone, have you been unbanned?
#2419 [21:43] <Applesauce> And the same for my cousin
#2420 [21:43] <TheNoodle> Applesauce, that's odd :/
#2421 [21:43] <Applesauce> he's also trying to buy it
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#2423 [21:43] <whidgle> we bought minecraft and it said it was successfuly purchased and and it did not download
#2424 [21:43] <Applesauce> and is getting the same problem
#2425 [21:43] <TheNoodle> Not much we can do about that.
#2426 [21:43] <Applesauce> is it the site?
#2427 [21:43] <TheNoodle> whidgle, did you actually download the program?
#2428 [21:43] <SimenOlai_Phone> Idk, im trying to leave
#2429 [21:43] <Applesauce> or did they stop selling minecraft?
#2430 [21:43] <TheNoodle> It could be Applesauce.
#2431 [21:43] <Applesauce> or what? lol
#2432 [21:44] <TheNoodle> !kick SimenOlai_Phone
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#2435 [21:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> mc is still selling
#2436 [21:44] <whidgle> yes
#2437 [21:44] <Applesauce> k
#2438 [21:44] <SimenOlai_Phone> Fuck autorejoin
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#2441 [21:44] <Applesauce> do you think i should just wait and keep trying?
#2442 [21:44] <TheNoodle> I'd say so Applesauce.
#2443 [21:44] <Applesauce> I'm so confused as to why they won't accept my options
#2444 [21:44] <Arthus> My turnz XD
#2445 [21:44] <Walker1212> Wait could someone help me compile ?
#2446 [21:44] <Applesauce> i've been searching forums/ support stuff
#2447 [21:44] <TheNoodle> Things are always a little odd.
#2448 [21:44] <SimenOlai_Phone> There
#2449 [21:45] <TheNoodle> !kick SimenOlai_Phone
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#2451 [21:45] <Applesauce> and still havent found ANYthing helpful except other people in similar situations
#2452 [21:45] <TheNoodle> Arthus, what's up?
#2453 [21:45] <TheNoodle> Applesauce, you can always buy from someone you trust that has managed to get it working.
#2454 [21:45] <TheNoodle> Don't buy from other sites though.
#2455 [21:45] <Arthus> I wanted to start playing minecraft again
#2456 [21:45] <Arthus> But
#2457 [21:45] <Applesauce> thats what i was thinking too...
#2458 [21:45] <Applesauce> but i dont know anyone who can get it working
#2459 [21:45] <Applesauce> Oh well, i'll keep trying XD
#2460 [21:45] <Applesauce> tyvm noodle!
#2461 [21:46] <whidgle> i bought it but it did not download; im afraid that if i click on it again it is going to cahrge ,e againg
#2462 [21:46] <Arthus> Im getting this message that says "Could not create java virtual machine"
#2463 [21:46] <whidgle> charge me again
#2464 [21:46] <TheNoodle> Let us know if there's anything else we can do Applesauce.
#2465 [21:46] <Applesauce> thank you very much XD
#2466 [21:46] <Applesauce> have a nice night
#2467 [21:46] <TheNoodle> whidgle, just log into minecraft.net and click the download button.
#2468 [21:46] <TheNoodle> It's bellow the purchase button.
#2469 [21:47] <Arthus> Im getting this message that says "Could not create java virtual machine"
#2470 [21:47] <whidgle> thanks
#2471 [21:47] <Arthus> Whenever I try to start Minecraft.exe
#2472 [21:48] <TheNoodle> hmm
#2473 [21:48] <TheNoodle> On windows?
#2474 [21:48] <Arthus> Yes, XP
#2475 [21:48] <Arthus> And I have been playing sense the Beta
#2476 [21:48] <Arthus> And its always worked fine
#2477 [21:50] <TheNoodle> hmm
#2478 [21:50] <TheNoodle> ??> Arthus win/dxdiag
#2479 [21:50] <VoxelHead> Arthus: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2480 [21:50] <VoxelHead> Arthus: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2481 [21:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> Arthus - you tried launching mc with extra mem?
#2482 [21:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> or rather, with an amount that will be sufficient if it isnt allocating enough
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#2484 [21:51] <Arthus> Easily
#2485 [21:51] <Arthus> Also... Win key ?.?
#2486 [21:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> the windows key is next to left ctrl
#2487 [21:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> if you have a normal keyboard
#2488 [21:52] <Arthus> Oh that -,- i feelz dumb
#2489 [21:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> xD
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#2491 [21:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> Arthus - Arthus - what compression format are you using?
#2492 [21:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> 7zip?
#2493 [21:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> or something else
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#2495 [21:58] <Arthus> Well I think I just found out what may have been causing my problems O.o
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#2497 [21:58] <Arthus> I just got a blue screen -.-
#2498 [21:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> \o/
#2499 [21:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> i got blue screens
#2500 [21:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> then i got an nvidia card
#2501 [21:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> no more bsod
#2502 [22:00] <eman> Okay so here's my issue. I'm playing on a mac, and the entire Minecraft folder was deleted. I want to minecraft.net and re-installed, got the minecraft logo in my bar at the bottom of my screen, no issues at all. But when I click it, it bounces like it's about to start running, but then it doesn't. To try and find a way around this... (hang on I'll type more)
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#2504 [22:01] <Arthus> Boxxy -.- like off Youtube?
#2505 [22:02] <eman> I opened the minecraft logo and figured out I could run it by running the java launcher. This does work, but there are several errors. First of all, if I try to adjust any sound settings, it completely freezes and I have to force quit. Second, it frequently runs out of memory when I switch server to server.
#2506 [22:02] <eman> Please help me!
#2507 [22:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> eman - tried running with -Xmx1024M flag?
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#2509 [22:03] <DravenNZ> Hello,
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#2511 [22:04] <DravenNZ> I have seen in some youtbue videos there is sound when picking up experance, i dont have the sounds tho can anyone help?
#2512 [22:04] <Arthus> Lol just leave it without sound... gets annoying as hell after a while.
#2513 [22:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> ^
#2514 [22:05] <eman> I don't think so... Is it compatible with macs?
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#2516 [22:09] <Walker1212> Can someone help me compile a classic server softare?
#2517 [22:11] <xales> Walker1212: Unfortunately, that is outside the scope of this channel. Perhaps ask the developer, or a support location for the software you are wishing to use? You're also welcome to stick around and see if anyone wants to try to help you, but none of us are familiar with any Classic software.
#2518 [22:12] <Arthus> Anyway spoon, do you have an ideas? I dont think any virus is the problem. Ive been having this problem sense I reinstalled.
#2519 [22:12] <Arthus> Oh, spoons gone >.<
#2520 [22:12] <Walker1212> Alright, thanks :)
#2521 [22:12] <Walker1212> Alright, thanks :)
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#2523 [22:12] <Arthus> Xales
#2524 [22:13] <xales> hi.
#2525 [22:13] <Arthus> So I wanted to start playing minecraft again, but everytime I try to start up Minecraft.exe it says "Could not create the java virtual machine"
#2526 [22:14] <xales> Arthus: How much RAM does your computer have?
#2527 [22:14] <Arthus> And Ive been playing sense the beta, and never had this problem before
#2528 [22:14] <Arthus> Umm, dont know the exact numbers but more than enough, 1sec
#2529 [22:15] <Arthus> 2gigs
#2530 [22:15] <Arthus> Sorry, 4
#2531 [22:15] <xales> Arthus: Try playing in your browser, at minecraft.net
#2532 [22:16] <Arthus> Says... Fatal Error Occured Write error: then something with the natives.jar file
#2533 [22:17] <xales> ??> Arthus win/reinst
#2534 [22:17] <VoxelHead> Arthus: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2535 [22:17] <VoxelHead> Arthus: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2537 [22:19] <Arthus> Ive done that several times, installing differant version of Java, restarting, even making this wierd Minecraft.bat files
#2538 [22:19] <xales> Arthus: Have you tried completely uninstalling all versions of Java and re-installing it?
#2539 [22:19] <Arthus> Yep
#2540 [22:20] <xales> Arthus: Are you running any sort of anti-malware software?
#2541 [22:20] <Arthus> Lol yes, way overkill on it
#2542 [22:20] <xales> ...there's your issue.
#2543 [22:20] <nullspace> absolutely
#2544 [22:20] <nullspace> lol
#2545 [22:20] <nullspace> sorry, been lurking, lol
#2546 [22:20] <eman> I'm playing on a mac and after I launch MC, if I try adjusting and audio settings of MC at all, it freezes up and I have to force quit it. Please help :?
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#2548 [22:20] <xales> First of all, using more than one anti-malware program tends to have *severe* problems
#2549 [22:21] <xales> eman: Ask Scott, he's lurking and he's our resident Mac expert (ask him in here, don't PM him)
#2550 [22:21] <Arthus> Wow...
#2551 [22:21] <Arthus> This explains alot...
#2552 [22:21] <Arthus> Bluescreens... crashed?
#2553 [22:21] <Arthus> Lmao
#2554 [22:21] <xales> Arthus: Yeah...
#2555 [22:21] <xales> Arthus: Remove all of them, if they aren't free, stop paying for them
#2556 [22:21] <eman> Scott I need your help
#2557 [22:21] <xales> Arthus: Then install one of the decent ones... ._.
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#2559 [22:22] <Arthus> Alright, keep Trend Micro?
#2560 [22:22] <xales> Nah
#2561 [22:22] <nullspace> trend isnt bad, imo, i use there online scanner from time to time. I like Eset myself
#2562 [22:22] <nullspace> but its not free
#2563 [22:23] <jross> I thought I purchased Minecraft but can not seem to find it or get it started told I am not a premium user
#2564 [22:23] <Scott> oh xales, people really listen.
#2565 [22:23] <xales> Arthus: I'm a fan of MalwareBytes personally, but it does cost money for the version that does active protection. Unlike other stuff, it's a 1-time payment, and cheap. :D
#2566 [22:23] * Scott closes the tab from eman's PM and goes back to eating.
#2566 [22:23] <nullspace> malwarebytes is good too, for sure, i second that.
#2567 [22:23] <xales> jross: Check with your financial institution, make sure there was a charge.
#2568 [22:23] <Arthus> Alright, thanks for the help
#2569 [22:23] <xales> jross: And that it has cleared, assuming it exists.
#2570 [22:24] <eman> :D
#2571 [22:24] <eman> Sorry Scott
#2572 [22:24] <eman> thought you were AFK
#2573 [22:24] <eman> are you ready for my question?
#2574 [22:24] <jross> ok so that means since i ordered it tonight I may not be a premium user
#2575 [22:25] <nullspace> eman, its probably better to just ask away, he will answer if hes available
#2576 [22:25] <eman> Okay
#2577 [22:25] <xales> jross: If there was a charge, just be patient. Your account will be marked premium soon. If there was not, then no payment was made.
#2578 [22:25] <eman> Well my issue is, I'm running Minecraft off of minecraftlauncher.jar. I'm doing this because double clicking on the logo doesn't work at all.
#2579 [22:25] <jross> ok i will give till tomorrow and see.
#2580 [22:25] <eman> There are two issues with this
#2581 [22:26] <xales> eman: err...minecraftlauncher.jar?
#2582 [22:26] <xales> eman: where did you download that from?
#2583 [22:26] <eman> One, I can't adjust any sound settings without it freezing up completely
#2584 [22:26] <eman> Two, I frequently run out of memory and have to relaunch. It's never once done this before.
#2585 [22:27] <eman> Xales what's wrong with minecraftlauncher.jar?
#2586 [22:27] <eman> It's on a mac
#2587 [22:27] <xales> eman: Where did you download it from?
#2588 [22:27] <eman> It's legit from Minecraft.net
#2589 [22:27] <eman> I put it in my applications folder like it said
#2590 [22:27] <eman> I followed all instructions
#2591 [22:27] <eman> but when I would click it, it just wouldn't launch
#2592 [22:28] <xales> eman: minecraft.net doesn't have any .jar files called that, unless you changed the name of it
#2593 [22:28] <eman> I didn't do any editing
#2594 [22:28] <eman> that's how it came
#2595 [22:28] <eman> do you think that's what's keeping it from launching?
#2596 [22:28] <eman> and if so, should I rename it so it works?
#2597 [22:29] <eman> Xales you still here?
#2598 [22:29] <xales> eman: sorry, no
#2599 [22:29] <xales> eman: one sec..
#2600 [22:29] <eman> kk thanks
#2601 [22:29] <xales> eman: just to verify, can you tell me the username you use to log into Minecraft?
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#2603 [22:30] <eman> eman1000
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#2605 [22:30] <xales> eman: try downloading minecraft again, from minecraft.net
#2606 [22:30] <mib_scty3u> DOES THIS WORK ON A MAC
#2607 [22:30] <eman> I have multiple times
#2608 [22:31] <eman> always been the same result
#2609 [22:31] <eman> I suppose I can try one more time though
#2610 [22:31] <xales> eman: if you are downloading a file called 'minecraftlauncher.jar', then something is weird
#2611 [22:31] <xales> eman: the file you should be downloading is 'Minecraft.zip'
#2612 [22:31] <mib_8xfkur> I paid for my account about 2 days ago but i still cannot play Minecraft its saying that my account is not premium
#2613 [22:32] <xales> mib_8xfkur: Are you sure that a charge was made?
#2614 [22:32] <mib_8xfkur> yes it said your payment has been made
#2615 [22:32] <mib_scty3u> Does it need any special system requirements ie min graphics cards
#2616 [22:32] <eman> I don't think you quite understood; the file itself is minecraft.zip, but when I right click on the icon and click "show package contents", then I go through a couple folders before reaching minecraftlauncher.jar
#2617 [22:32] <xales> mib_8xfkur: That's not what I am asking you. Have you verified with your financial institution that there was a charge made?
#2618 [22:32] <xales> eman: Ah, that's not how you should launch it...
#2619 [22:33] <xales> eman: Just double-click on Minecraft.app
#2620 [22:33] <eman> That's the issue
#2621 [22:33] <mib_8xfkur> i really dont know
#2622 [22:33] <eman> When I do, it bounces once like it's going to launch
#2623 [22:33] <eman> but nothing happens
#2624 [22:33] <xales> mib_scty3u: Yes - it needs a modern, generally non-Intel, graphics card.
#2625 [22:33] <DopeGhoti> ??> eman mac/permissions
#2626 [22:33] <VoxelHead> eman: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#2627 [22:33] <VoxelHead> eman: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#2628 [22:34] <xales> mib_8xfkur: If you don't know, then I suggest contacting your financial institution. If you don't know what that entails, you should ask whomever paid for it for you.
#2629 [22:34] <eman> So I just open teminal, copy and paste that in, hit enter, and then try again?
#2630 [22:34] <xales> eman: Pretty much
#2631 [22:34] <mib_8xfkur> uhhh what?? haha
#2632 [22:34] <mib_scty3u> thanks about to buy a macmin intel version and want minecraft to work
#2633 [22:35] <eman> allright I'll try clicking on the icon...
#2634 [22:35] <eman> fingers crossed everyone
#2635 [22:35] <xales> mib_scty3u: A Mac Mini will probably be able to play it, but I don't know off the top of my head what the specs are.
#2636 [22:35] <eman> Nope :'(
#2637 [22:35] <mib_scty3u> cheers it should work..
#2638 [22:35] <xales> mib_8xfkur: I'm going to guess that you aren't actually the person to whom the money belongs that you paid for it with. Ask that person.
#2639 [22:36] <xales> eman: Are you double-clicking on the Minecraft.app residing in your Applications folder?
#2640 [22:37] <eman> Yes I am :/
#2641 [22:37] <mib_8xfkur> ohh so the person who paid for it online.....which would be my mom
#2642 [22:37] <xales> mib_8xfkur: Ask your mom to verify with the bank that the charge went through.
#2643 [22:38] <xales> eman: When you pasted that into Terminal, and hit enter, did it give you any sort of message back?
#2644 [22:38] <eman> it's strange though, because I've been playing for over a year just fine
#2645 [22:38] <eman> Let me try again quick
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#2647 [22:38] <mib_8xfkur> ohh ok....what if we did pay and it still isnt working
#2648 [22:39] <eman> When I enter it, the whole thing just copies and pastes itself right after it on a new line
#2649 [22:39] <Arthus> xales You still here?
#2650 [22:39] <xales> Arthus: indeed
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#2652 [22:39] <xales> mib_8xfkur: Are you sure that is the case?
#2653 [22:40] <xales> eman: Try this:
#2654 [22:40] <mib_8xfkur> i was just wondering so if we did i could have a back up plan
#2655 [22:40] <xales> eman: In the terminal, paste this in and hit enter, don't include the quotes: 'curl -o minecraft.jar https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar'
#2656 [22:40] <eman> BTW Thanks a ton for all of this Xales. Whether things end up okay or not in the end, I really appreciate everything you're doing for me
#2657 [22:41] <eman> some stuff happened
#2658 [22:41] <xales> mib_8xfkur: If you did, and it's been more than two days...well, that pretty much doesn't happen. otherwise, just wait
#2659 [22:41] <xales> eman: yeah, that's good
#2660 [22:41] <eman> should I try again?
#2661 [22:41] <xales> eman: now this, which should launch Minecraft: 'java -jar minecraft.jar'
#2662 [22:41] <eman> okay
#2663 [22:41] <mib_8xfkur> oh okk well thank you for all the help xales
#2664 [22:41] <eman> I'll try it
#2665 [22:42] <xales> eman: (basically what those two commands did it download the .jar from minecraft.net and launch it from the terminal, so that any errors go there instead of the bit bucket)
#2666 [22:42] <eman> It still didn't work :(
#2667 [22:43] <eman> you want me to try re-downloading
#2668 [22:43] <eman> ??
#2669 [22:43] <xales> eman: Can you copy everything it said after you entered 'java -jar minecraft.jar', go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste it, click submit, then give me the URL that it sends you to?
#2670 [22:43] <mib_8xfkur> how can you play offline?
#2671 [22:44] <xales> mib_8xfkur: If you don't have a premium account yet, then you can't
#2672 [22:44] <Arthus> I took out my anti-malware programs, but im still getting the same virtual machine message.
#2673 [22:44] <eman> http://pastebin.com/wEDfDhag
#2674 [22:44] <mib_8xfkur> well how can you get a premium account
#2675 [22:44] <xales> Arthus: Have you restarted your computer after uninstalling them?
#2676 [22:44] <xales> mib_8xfkur: By buying the game
#2677 [22:45] <mib_8xfkur> ohh okkk i get it now
#2678 [22:45] <xales> eman: That should be after the 'curl', not 'java -jar minecraft.jar'
#2679 [22:45] <eman> ?
#2680 [22:45] <Arthus> Yes
#2681 [22:45] <xales> eman: Did you run 'java -jar minecraft.jar' in the terminal?
#2682 [22:46] <mib_8xfkur> so now all i have to do is get my mom to verify that we paid for the game and if we didnt we just pay like a regular payment?
#2683 [22:46] <eman> I don't think so
#2684 [22:46] <xales> mib_8xfkur: correct
#2685 [22:46] <xales> eman: please do so, then
#2686 [22:46] <Arthus> I restarted after the uninstallation of the programs, installed the latest version of java, then restarted again and downloaded minecraft.
#2687 [22:46] <xales> Arthus: Try in a web browser again, at minecraft.net
#2688 [22:46] <eman> dude
#2689 [22:47] <eman> it just suddenly made the screen pop up
#2690 [22:47] <eman> I'll try adjusting sound
#2691 [22:47] <mib_8xfkur> ok I got it forreall now Thank you for all the help though
#2692 [22:47] <Arthus> Same error message.
#2693 [22:47] <eman> Still couldn't adjust sound... I had to force quit it
#2694 [22:48] <eman> did you want me to do the pastebin thing for the message I got on terminal after entering what you told me?
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#2696 [22:50] <eman> I have to go Xales
#2697 [22:50] <eman> thanks for all your help
#2698 [22:51] <eman> I might come back another time
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#2700 [22:51] <wilma> hi can you help me?
#2701 [22:51] <xales> Arthus: Hmm, interesting.
#2702 [22:51] <xales> wilma: With?
#2703 [22:52] <wilma> when i try to open the free mine craft
#2704 [22:52] <wilma> it says
#2705 [22:52] <wilma> (hold on ill get it)
#2706 [22:53] <xales> wilma: If it's more than one line long, please use http://pastebin.com
#2707 [22:53] <wilma> an error occured wile loading the applet
#2708 [22:53] <wilma> whats that?>
#2709 [22:53] <wilma> *?
#2710 [22:54] <wilma> its more than a line long, how do i use that?
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#2712 [22:55] <xales> wilma: go to the site, paste it into the box, click 'submit', copy the URL that it sends you to, and paste it here
#2713 [22:56] <wilma> oh ok one sec
#2714 [22:56] <Arthus> So xales, any ideas?
#2715 [22:57] <xales> Arthus: Not off the top of my head, I could look into it more but I'm not really in a place I can do that right now (on a very crappy laptop, at the moment)
#2716 [22:57] <xales> Arthus: However, if you'll be around some other time, I'd be happy to look into it then
#2717 [22:57] <wilma> oh ok
#2718 [22:57] <wilma> http://pastebin.com/imnUHQMe
#2719 [22:57] <wilma> i think..
#2720 [22:58] <wilma> i think i spelled sum stuff wrong thoug
#2721 [22:58] <wilma> *though
#2722 [22:58] <wilma> tell me if that works..
#2723 [22:58] <xales> wilma: Yup, that worked
#2724 [22:58] <wilma> k
#2725 [22:58] <xales> wilma: Are you running any sort of firewall software?
#2726 [22:58] <wilma> sorry if some stuff was spelled wrong
#2727 [22:58] <wilma> and umm duunno
#2728 [22:59] <wilma> like anti virus stuff?
#2729 [22:59] <xales> wilma: Yes
#2730 [22:59] <wilma> there is some on my computer but not running at the moment
#2731 [23:01] <wilma> do you know what it might be?
#2732 [23:03] <wilma> are you still there?
#2733 [23:05] <wilma> can you help me?
#2734 [23:05] <xales> wilma: sorry about that
#2735 [23:05] <xales> wilma: Do you know how to open the control panel?
#2736 [23:06] <wilma> uhh possibly
#2737 [23:08] <wilma> yea i got it
#2738 [23:09] <xales> wilma: go to Java. Under General, click Temporary Internet Files, then Settings
#2739 [23:09] <xales> Click "delete files", then try to play Minecraft again.
#2740 [23:10] <wilma> umm
#2741 [23:10] <wilma> java the website
#2742 [23:11] <xales> wilma: No, in Control Panel
#2743 [23:11] <wilma> r we still talking about the control pannel?
#2744 [23:11] <wilma> so control pannel..general then java?
#2745 [23:13] <wilma> oh and another quick question, if you want to buy minecraft..can you use a visa gift card?
#2746 [23:14] <xales> wilma: No, you can't
#2747 [23:14] <wilma> aww\
#2748 [23:14] <xales> wilma: Visa Gift Cards cannot be used for international transactions, so unless you got the card in Sweden...
#2749 [23:14] <wilma> ok but you go to the control pannel then gerneral then java?
#2750 [23:16] <wilma> yes no lol
#2751 [23:18] <xales> wilma: Go to the control panel, where it says categories, click and then click 'small icons'
#2752 [23:19] <xales> then go to Java, then General
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