#1 [00:02] <|Kiichan|> oh wait. joke :P
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#4 [00:13] <Miselu> My computer is up to date everywhere. Java is installed, the latest version. When I try to launch minecraft, be it the .jar or the .exe, all it does is a window XP error beep, and nothing happens. My computer is in a top notch state. It never did that before.
#5 [00:13] <Miselu> How do I fix this?
#6 [00:13] <Miselu> I tried reinstalling Java and deleting the .bin many many times. Minecraft works through the browser, but I do not like playing the browser version.
#7 [00:14] <zkxs> Miselu: Try using this launcher. ftp://3545.no-ip.org/files/%23minecrafthelp/MCH-Launcher.jar
#8 [00:15] <Miselu> It works. Thank you. Could you explain why this one works but not the other?
#9 [00:16] <zkxs> I'm not quite sure, truthfully. The only alteration from the original launcher is that this one saves an error log.
#10 [00:16] <zkxs> The person who made it *might* know more, but he isn't on currently.
#11 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> Two likely causes, java or RAM
#12 [00:17] <Miselu> I bet it's Java. Oh well. I'll reinstall XP eventually anyway, I just don't feel like to do it now. Thank you very much guys! Keep up the good work.
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#16 [00:44] <Waterdust> so who do I contact about not being able to buy this game email wise?
#17 [00:45] <xales> Waterdust: Why can't you buy it?
#18 [00:45] <Ketsueki> Or more to the point; how were you trying?
#19 [00:45] <Waterdust> because somehow I've reached the maximum number of times I can attempt to do so
#20 [00:45] <xales> Waterdust: What payment method are you trying to use?
#21 [00:45] <Waterdust> visa
#22 [00:45] <Waterdust> it rejected my spouses card, then my own
#23 [00:46] <Waterdust> firstly because of some weird error
#24 [00:46] <Waterdust> then because i tried a different email for it figuring maybe i had that wrong
#25 [00:46] <Waterdust> then my own for no reason
#26 [00:46] <Waterdust> an then just outright never again allowed
#27 [00:46] <xales> Waterdust: Try using a different payment method; if your card is being rejected, you will need to contact your bank to determine why
#28 [00:46] <Waterdust> the card is good
#29 [00:47] <Waterdust> i bought my own a few hours back
#30 [00:47] <Waterdust> what i don't get is why i can't buy a 2nd
#31 [00:47] <Waterdust> i don't wanna use paypal.. that crap takes a few days
#32 [00:47] <Waterdust> the whole point was to play tonight
#33 [00:48] <Waterdust> i hate how they don't offer an email to contact about this
#34 [00:50] <xales> Waterdust: they don't handle payments
#35 [00:50] <xales> Waterdust: also, banks often reject similar transactions to the same place in a short timespan, due to the high fraud risk
#36 [00:51] <Waterdust> completely impossible it's been 6 hours
#37 [00:51] <xales> 6 hours isn't that long
#38 [00:51] <Waterdust> an 2 entirely different cards
#39 [00:51] <Waterdust> w/e the case its not applicable i know others who've done it
#40 [00:51] <xales> well, you can try Paypal, or wait 24-hours or so, at which point the other thing should work again
#41 [00:52] <xales> however, Paypal is almost always more reliable than the other method
#42 [00:52] <Waterdust> the whole point was to play tonight, right now, not later
#43 [00:52] <xales> I'm no fan of the company, but they do seem to be much faster about actually communicating the transaction
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#45 [00:52] <xales> (usually it's instant; I bought it via paypal, and it was instant)
#46 [00:52] <TheNoodle> ^
#47 [00:52] <Waterdust> i do not have a week to wait for funds to xfer
#48 [00:52] <xales> you can pay via a credit card on Paypal
#49 [00:53] <xales> you don't have to transfer funds from a bank account
#50 [00:53] <Waterdust> i do not have such a thing thru them nor do i want one
#51 [00:53] <xales> hell, you don't even need a paypal account
#52 [00:53] <xales> Waterdust: just click the paypal checkout option
#53 [00:53] <xales> type in credit card
#54 [00:53] <xales> click done
#55 [00:53] <|Kiichan|> actually you CANT pay via paypal funds. you have to use some form of instant
#56 [00:53] <Waterdust> my account with them has always been a zero balance until i xfer'd from my bank to them
#57 [00:54] <Waterdust> this process takes a week normally
#58 [00:54] <Waterdust> I hate doing this
#59 [00:54] <xales> Waterdust: Again, you can pay *directly* with a credit card
#60 [00:54] <xales> I'm not sure what's ambiguous here
#61 [00:54] <Waterdust> but i have no such thing
#62 [00:54] <Waterdust> only debit
#63 [00:54] <Waterdust> nor do i want a CC
#64 [00:54] <xales> Then use that
#65 [00:54] <xales> I use the term "credit card" interchangeably
#66 [00:54] <Waterdust> their not the same thing
#67 [00:55] <|Kiichan|> Waterdust: does your debt card act as a credit card?
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#69 [00:55] <Waterdust> it can but should not be used as such
#70 [00:55] <xales> |Kiichan|: I hope so, or he wouldn't be able to use it regardless of payment method
#71 [00:55] <|Kiichan|> meaning can use use it as a visa or master card
#72 [00:55] <Waterdust> there are detrimental reasons behind this -.-
#73 [00:55] <TheNoodle> ...
#74 [00:55] <xales> Waterdust: Okay, let's simplify this
#75 [00:55] <xales> does your debit card say Visa or Mastercard on it?
#76 [00:56] <Waterdust> visa
#77 [00:56] <xales> If so, you can use it to instantly make payments via Paypa
#78 [00:56] <xales> paypal*
#79 [00:56] <Waterdust> not that i am aware of no
#80 [00:56] <xales> You can use it just like a credit card
#81 [00:56] <xales> except it doesn't *credit* funds
#82 [00:56] <Waterdust> they have their own card with a visa/pp logo just for them
#83 [00:56] <xales> it *debits* them
#84 [00:56] <|Kiichan|> Waterdust: can you use it to pay for things at mcdonalds and the grocery store?
#85 [00:56] <xales> Waterdust: No, they don't
#86 [00:56] <xales> Waterdust: they offer a Paypal Visa card, but you can use ANY card with Paypal
#87 [00:57] <Waterdust> that doesn't make sense
#88 [00:57] <xales> Waterdust: ...what doesn't make sense about it?
#89 [00:57] <xales> Waterdust: just try it.
#90 [00:57] <Waterdust> my bank is a place for means of paying people
#91 [00:57] <xales> no
#92 [00:57] <xales> a bank is where you keep money
#93 [00:57] <Waterdust> why would pp act as a middle man for this process at no cost to themselves
#94 [00:57] <DopeGhoti> Because they take a slice off the top of the payment for themslves
#95 [00:57] <xales> Waterdust: merchants using paypal, pay paypal to do that
#96 [00:58] <|Kiichan|> Waterdust: it costs them. they just take a part of it from what mojang recieves
#97 [00:58] <DopeGhoti> the price may be €19.95, but paypal takes about €0.5 from the purchase price
#98 [00:58] <Waterdust> i have never known pp to act in this fashion
#99 [00:58] <Waterdust> an i've been using them since 02
#100 [00:58] <|Kiichan|> it does.
#101 [00:58] <xales> Waterdust: Click the "Business" button
#102 [00:59] <xales> on Paypal's site
#103 [00:59] <DopeGhoti> If you've been using PayPal for nearly ten years, why are you arguing with us about using it?
#104 [00:59] <xales> that entire section of the site? that's what that is all about
#105 [00:59] <Waterdust> because it has never offered this feature to me
#106 [00:59] <Waterdust> nor am i a biz user class
#107 [00:59] * |Kiichan| is still debating makign a donation button :P
#107 [00:59] <xales> Waterdust: Okay, enough of this
#108 [00:59] <DopeGhoti> Waterdust: If you don't want to take our work for it, that's perfectly fine
#109 [01:00] <DopeGhoti> We're not going to argue about payment processors.
#110 [01:00] <|Kiichan|> DopeGhoti: "word"
#111 [01:00] <xales> Waterdust: If you don't want to try it, your loss.
#112 [01:00] <DopeGhoti> Use them, or not.
#113 [01:00] * |Kiichan| snickers
#113 [01:00] <Waterdust> it just upsets me there is no means of contacting whoever handles the cc's
#114 [01:00] <xales> Waterdust: Mojang doesn't handle payments.
#115 [01:00] <Waterdust> notice the word "whoever"
#116 [01:00] <xales> You obviously haven't looked.
#117 [01:00] <|Kiichan|> ??< index
#118 [01:01] <xales> In any case, this isn't HOW DOES THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM WORKS.
#119 [01:01] <DopeGhoti> There's always a way to contact the handler for credit card transactions: the phone number on the back of the card.
#120 [01:01] <Waterdust> no no.. the people who take the data i submitted
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#122 [01:01] <Waterdust> not MY bank
#123 [01:01] <oan-> HELLO!
#124 [01:01] <DopeGhoti> you mean like https://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=contact
#125 [01:01] <Waterdust> if i had an issue with amazon
#126 [01:02] <DopeGhoti> oan-: HI THERE
#127 [01:02] <Waterdust> i could simply call them or email them
#128 [01:02] <oan-> :D
#129 [01:02] <Waterdust> but MC has nothing of this sort
#130 [01:02] * xales kicked Waterdust from #minecrafthelp (Reason: aterdust :DopeGhoti just gave you the answer, stop bitching at us.)
#131 [01:02] <DopeGhoti> Mojang is a tiny company, which is why they have retained the services of payment processors like Moneybookers.
#132 [01:02] <xales> Too late.
#133 [01:02] <DopeGhoti> I see that.
#134 [01:02] <xales> :D
#135 [01:02] * xales is Dr. Obvious
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#138 [01:19] <darcknes> hello
#139 [01:19] <darcknes> i need help with myminecraft
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#141 [01:21] <darcknes> can any one help
#142 [01:22] <darcknes> it keep freezing or something kinda close to it
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#144 [01:30] <Grey> can someone help me make my block only drop the items if mined with pick
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#146 [01:35] <mib_aw6syr> were do i download java from and is there a special one to download for this game
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#154 [02:30] <Farknocker01> so I wanna try the older version of the game before I buy it
#155 [02:30] <|Kiichan|> a response just means someones here and payign attention :P
#156 [02:30] <Farknocker01> but all that happens when I click single player is I get stuck with a black screen
#157 [02:30] <|Kiichan|> ??> Farknocker01 demo
#158 [02:30] <VoxelHead> Farknocker01: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#159 [02:30] <VoxelHead> Farknocker01: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#160 [02:31] <|Kiichan|> Farknocker01: with Classic?
#161 [02:31] <Farknocker01> sorry, classic? is that the free version?
#162 [02:32] <|Kiichan|> the free outdated version playable via the website
#163 [02:32] <Farknocker01> yeah, that's the one I tried to play
#164 [02:32] <|Kiichan|> Farknocker01: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, Jesux, or Atari 2600?
#165 [02:32] <Farknocker01> Mac OS X, and my software is up to date
#166 [02:33] <|Kiichan|> mac's been know to just not like classic. one sec
#167 [02:33] <|Kiichan|> ?? mac/classic
#168 [02:33] <VoxelHead> mac/classic: Minecraft Classic does not work on Mac OS X. You can however use the World of Minecraft client: http://www.worldofminecraft.com/Game_Client. Minecraft (the paid version) works just fine on Mac OS X.
#169 [02:34] <Farknocker01> does the demo you mentioned before work on Mac's?
#170 [02:34] <|Kiichan|> and the demo was for windows only... it cant be finagled to work on am ac (since the games java) but i dont know how.
#171 [02:35] <|Kiichan|> theres also a farkton of youtube videos showing the MANY MANY MANY aspects of the game :P if you just wanna see what it looks like and what can be done
#172 [02:35] <Farknocker01> yeah, I wanna test out the game play myself
#173 [02:36] <Farknocker01> from what it looks like the game requires some knowledge of code, is that true? cause I don't know very much about computers
#174 [02:36] <|Kiichan|> you dont need to code anything. unless youre writing mods.
#175 [02:36] <|Kiichan|> theres redstone. but thats more electrical engineering than coding
#176 [02:37] <|Kiichan|> and not a required gameplay mechanic
#177 [02:37] <Farknocker01> what about "setting up a server" is that something I need to worry about?
#178 [02:37] <|Kiichan|> only if you want to host a multiplayer game.
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#180 [02:38] <Farknocker01> oh, nah, not something I'm interested in atm
#181 [02:38] <|Kiichan|> the part that hangs most people is port forwarding. or theyre using bukkit and installign too many mods :/
#182 [02:39] <|Kiichan|> bukkit = custom server.
#183 [02:39] <Farknocker01> well for the moment I just wanna get a feel for the game
#184 [02:41] <Farknocker01> VoxelHead (sorry I don't know how to send you a message with your name in front of it) the client works for the classic, is that what you were saying?
#185 [02:41] <Farknocker01> oh, lol I guess it's just as simple as typing your name
#186 [02:41] <|Kiichan|> and hitting tab :3
#187 [02:41] <|Kiichan|> unless mibbit doesnt have tabcomp
#188 [02:42] <Farknocker01> |Kiichan|: lol
#189 [02:42] <|Kiichan|> and vox is a bot :P
#190 [02:42] <|Kiichan|> the full version of minecraft works fine on mac. most errors are simple fixes.
#191 [02:42] <Farknocker01> oh, really the responses seem too specific
#192 [02:43] <|Kiichan|> ?? bot
#193 [02:43] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
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#195 [02:43] <Farknocker01> |Kiichan|: yeah, I'm unemployed atm, so gotta make sure every purchase is worth it, you know
#196 [02:44] <|Kiichan|> i understand :3
#197 [02:44] <|Kiichan|> you wont get the full taste of minecraft as it is now by playing classic though.
#198 [02:44] * |Kiichan| is lookign to see if anyone has instructions on MAc-ifying the demo.
#198 [02:45] <Farknocker01> |Kiichan|: yeah, I figured, classic is never as good as the upgrade
#199 [02:46] <|Kiichan|> its called classic because its version 0.30 before the versions got names and it went into alpha
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#201 [02:49] <Farknocker01> |Kiichan|: how did you know I'm in Texas?
#202 [02:50] <|Kiichan|> your hostname :P
#203 [02:50] <|Kiichan|> Farknocker01 is Mibbit@99-126-196-81.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net
#204 [02:51] <|Kiichan|> and your best bet is to try the World of Minecraft client.
#205 [02:51] <Farknocker01> oh I see
#206 [02:52] <Farknocker01> and I clicked the link but it takes me to a WOM page that has a message "page not found"
#207 [02:52] <|Kiichan|> o.o;
#208 [02:52] <|Kiichan|> opened fine for me...
#209 [02:52] <|Kiichan|> OH! the period
#210 [02:52] <|Kiichan|> http://www.worldofminecraft.com/Game_Client
#211 [02:53] <Farknocker01> lol, DUH!
#212 [02:53] <Farknocker01> :s thanks
#213 [02:53] <|Kiichan|> no prob :3
#214 [02:54] <Farknocker01> kk lemme see how this works
#215 [02:54] <|Kiichan|> and you can check out youtube and minecraftwiki.net to see whats actually in the full game as opposed to just classic.
#216 [02:54] <|Kiichan|> Classic is similar to whats now Creative mode.... with a limited map :P
#217 [02:56] <Farknocker01> yeah I've watched a few of the youtube videos already, the "Born this Way" parody was what drew my attention:D
#218 [02:56] <|Kiichan|> lol.
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#220 [02:56] <|Kiichan|> my favorite musical minecraft creations is actually In Search of Diamonds :P
#221 [02:57] <Farknocker01> it says single player doesn't work with the client (please don't ban me) does the world work the same way in multiplayer as single player? with the obvious exception of additional players
#222 [02:57] <|Kiichan|> yes. works the same.
#223 [02:57] <Farknocker01> |Kiichan|: I'll have to watch that one
#224 [02:57] <|Kiichan|> and we arnt WoM so i dont care about the singleplayer stuff.. infact thought i HAD singleplayer
#225 [02:58] <Farknocker01> okay cool, cause I usually prefer to play with myself :O
#226 [02:58] * |Kiichan| facepalm
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#228 [03:13] <Farknocker01> |Kiichan|: kay, just downloaded the client, and I followed the walkthrough on the WoM site to the letter, but I just got a message that they don't cover
#229 [03:13] * |Kiichan| has never used the WoM client...
#229 [03:13] <|Kiichan|> whats the message? maybe ill understand it
#230 [03:13] <Farknocker01> oh, lol okay
#231 [03:15] <Farknocker01> it says "Hardware 3D accelerated driver detected" then; "Do you wish to: Continue and use Hardware 3D or, Use software 3D instead?"
#232 [03:15] <|Kiichan|> use hardware.
#233 [03:15] <Farknocker01> okay, thanks
#234 [03:17] <Farknocker01> |Kiichan|: YAY it worked, thanks for your help
#235 [03:17] <|Kiichan|> no prob :3 hope you like the game
#236 [03:17] <Farknocker01> VoxelHead: and you too bot person
#237 [03:17] <|Kiichan|> and the release ha So Much More :P
#238 [03:18] <Farknocker01> yeah, looking forward to upgrading
#239 [03:24] <Farknocker01> hmm, I keep getting messages in these multiplayer worlds such as "your rank is not allowed to build in this world" a. how do I gain rank, and b. how do I find a world that will let me build?
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#241 [03:24] <|Kiichan|> thats server mods to prevent greefing.
#242 [03:25] <|Kiichan|> find where that server allows freebuilding
#243 [03:25] <|Kiichan|> or just hop another server
#244 [03:25] <Farknocker01> okay, what's greefing?
#245 [03:26] <|Kiichan|> griefing is an act by a griefer, a person who's sole task in life id to give other people grief. in terms of minecraft this is usually destruction of things your making
#246 [03:27] <|Kiichan|> or building unacceptable things
#247 [03:27] <|Kiichan|> like 18 foot tall golden gentialia :P
#248 [03:28] <Farknocker01> oh, another reason to stick to single player
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#250 [03:28] <|Kiichan|> you just have to find the right server :3
#251 [03:28] <Farknocker01> that way I can build all the giant genitals I want
#252 [03:28] <|Kiichan|> you can probably get permission to build by just asking
#253 [03:28] <Farknocker01> :P
#254 [03:28] <|Kiichan|> or theyll tell you wheres ok to build
#255 [03:29] <Farknocker01> how do I talk to them?
#256 [03:29] <|Kiichan|> press t
#257 [03:30] <Farknocker01> gotcha
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#267 [04:09] <JavaError> grey i need help again with java
#268 [04:09] <JavaError> or any one
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#270 [04:11] <Farknocker01> |Kiichan|: I've decided it's way more time consuming to build giant genitals than it is rewarding
#271 [04:11] <|Kiichan|> heh
#272 [04:12] <|Kiichan|> Farknocker01: now think if you actually had to MINE and SMELT the gold to do it? you'd overturn a continent
#273 [04:12] * |Kiichan| needs to go to bed :/
#273 [04:12] <Farknocker01> |Kiichan|: lol, well thanks for your help, I think I'm getting the hang of it
#274 [04:13] <JavaError> can any one help me pleaswe ?
#275 [04:13] <|Kiichan|> JavaError: quick.. i wanna sleep
#276 [04:14] <JavaError> ok so i keep gettinfg this java failed to create java virtual machine
#277 [04:14] <JavaError> any suggestions ?
#278 [04:15] <|Kiichan|> reinstall java?
#279 [04:15] <JavaError> i did that
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#301 [07:09] <ROnny> Hey
#302 [07:09] <ROnny> Deutsche hier?
#303 [07:10] <Boreeas> ROnny: Wie können wir dir helfen?
#304 [07:10] <ROnny> Hey, bin ein ziemlicher Leihe, aber hab ne Frage: Hab ne Welt vor einigen Monaten erstellt, jetzt kam ja das 1.0.0er Update.
#305 [07:11] <ROnny> Kann ich ganz normal weiterspielen? Mit all den Features der neuen Version?
#306 [07:11] <ROnny> Oder schneide ich mir da neue Features ab?
#307 [07:11] <Boreeas> ROnny: Du kannst ganz normal weiterspielen
#308 [07:11] <Boreeas> ROnny: Um neue features wie Strongholds zu entdecken, musste du allerdings inm Chunks gehen die du bis jetzt noch nicht erforscht hast
#309 [07:17] <ROnny> Sorry, aber was sind Chunks :)
#310 [07:17] <ROnny> Und was sind Strongholds, ach die Höhlen unter der Erde?
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#312 [07:18] <ROnny> Hast du auch nen Tipp, was ich machen kann, wenn mein Kompass nicht zu dem Punkt zeigt, an dem ich mein Bett habe, sonder was weiß ich wohin zeigt?
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#317 [07:29] <mackinp> I cant install the game with my code that I purchased. It is telling me that my code is already used and when I try to download it says my account is not premium.
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#319 [07:32] <mackinp> What is mojang? That is who sent me my email confirmation.
#320 [07:33] <geraldbrent> Where dod you purchase the code?
#321 [07:33] <geraldbrent> did*
#322 [07:33] <mackinp> On your website. It said buy now "gift code"
#323 [07:34] <jkmcg> my minecraft wont work in browser can you help
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#325 [07:36] <geraldbrent> If you wanted to buy the game, you were supposed to select that option. If you bought this game at anywhere other than minecraft.net then you may have been scammed
#326 [07:38] <mackinp> I bought the game from your website it said the passcode was already been used and it doesnt let me download the game it says im not premium.
#327 [07:39] <jkmcg> i bought the game from minecraft.net and i have latest java it wont work in browser
#328 [07:39] <jkmcg> i bought the game from minecraft.net and i have latest java it wont work in browser
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#330 [07:40] <AureliusM> jkmcg: does it work from the minecraft.exe launcher ?
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#332 [07:41] <jkmcg> it doesnt work at all it says loading then goes blank
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#334 [07:43] <AureliusM> jkmcg: Have you installed Java 6? Also, what are your system specs? Computer, OS?
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#336 [07:44] <kleinebaas> problem: I came here yesterday with "done loading" problem, now back agin coz it bugs after that. it gives black screen, nothing happens.
#337 [07:44] <kleinebaas> problem: I came here yesterday with "done loading" problem, now back agin coz it bugs after that. it gives black screen, nothing happens.
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#340 [07:46] <kleinebaas> problem: I came here yesterday with "done loading" problem, now back agin coz it bugs after that. it gives black screen, nothing happens
#341 [07:47] <kleinebaas> ...hello?
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#343 [07:53] <Uassked4it> Minecraft loads to a screen that informs me that I do not have enough memory after playing for about 30 seconds. What can I do to fix this error?
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#345 [08:01] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: how much memory does your machine have?
#346 [08:02] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: If you do not know, use dxdiag as in the following instructions.
#347 [08:02] <AureliusM> ??> Uassked4it win/dxdiag
#348 [08:02] <VoxelHead> Uassked4it: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#349 [08:02] <VoxelHead> Uassked4it: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#350 [08:04] <Uassked4it> 3582MB of memory. Is that not enough memory to run minecraft?
#351 [08:04] <AureliusM> Yes, that is enough. The problem could be something else. Look for a file named hs_err_pid on your PC
#352 [08:05] <Boreeas> ROnny: Tschuldingung für die späte antwort. "Chunks" sind die 16*16 gebiete, die Minecraft als Gruppe lädt und generiert. Stringholds sind (meist unterirdische9 verfallenen ruinend mit Zugriff auf den "end"
#353 [08:05] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: It should be in your desktop or in whichever folder you launched minecraft from
#354 [08:06] <tyteen4a03> test
#355 [08:06] <tyteen4a03> good, my internet did not die
#356 [08:06] * Boreeas stabs tyteen4a03's internet
#356 [08:06] <tyteen4a03> :o
#357 [08:06] <tyteen4a03> HOW DARE YOU :<
#358 [08:07] <Uassked4it> I have no such named file in my desktop, minecraft folder, or in a search of my entire PC
#359 [08:07] * Boreeas also stabs tyteen4a03
#359 [08:07] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: Y U MURDER
#360 [08:07] * tyteen4a03 dies
#360 [08:07] <tyteen4a03> also
#361 [08:07] <Boreeas> <.<
#362 [08:07] <tyteen4a03> AureliusM: allocate more RAM to java?
#363 [08:08] <Boreeas> tyteen4a03: CUZ I LIEK TEH MURDER
#364 [08:08] <Uassked4it> So the minecraft help is a PvP server? I see now.
#365 [08:08] <tyteen4a03> Uassked4it: It is mostly for people to test internet connections
#366 [08:08] <tyteen4a03> we helpers sometimes play on it
#367 [08:08] <Uassked4it> I have no idea how to allocate more RAM to it. I am not that tech savy unfornately.
#368 [08:09] <tyteen4a03> Uassked4it: It was something to AureliusM
#369 [08:10] <AureliusM> ??> Uassked4it win/client/moreram
#370 [08:10] <VoxelHead> Uassked4it: (win/client/moreram) If you need to launch minecraft with more ram than the defaults, download this script to the location of minecraft.exe and run it. Java must be in your path for this to work.
#371 [08:10] <VoxelHead> Uassked4it: (win/client/moreram) Windows Launch Script: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MoreRAMMCLauncher.bat
#372 [08:11] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Try that bat file from Voxelhead - it will launch with 1500 megabytes, and save any errors in a file
#373 [08:12] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Download that MoreRaMMMCLauncher.bat file to whereever minecraft.exe is, and double click it
#374 [08:12] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: But, the problem may be your graphics driverss, so please also follow the dxdiag instructions above
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#377 [08:13] <TheNoodle> ..
#378 [08:13] <tyteen4a03> TheNoodle: he's stubborn
#379 [08:13] <TheNoodle> yeah...
#380 [08:14] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Sorry to add confusion. First try the MoreRAMM launcher and report what happens; later we'll do the dxdiag
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#383 [08:15] <Uassked4it> It did the memory screen again, But I'm not quite sure I put in it right location. I just put in it the same file as the .exe location?
#384 [08:16] <AureliusM> Yes, so is there a file named errorlog.txt at that location now?
#385 [08:16] <Uassked4it> (Sorry that I am completely brainless when it comes to the inner workings of my computer)
#386 [08:17] <Uassked4it> I do not see one no.
#387 [08:17] <AureliusM> No problem, that's why we are here
#388 [08:17] <Uassked4it> Let me make a folder and just have those two items in it and try again.
#389 [08:19] <Boreeas> SimenOlai isw banned :O
#390 [08:20] <Uassked4it> It quit on me again, and the only two files in the folder are still just the .exe and the MoreRAMMCLauncher
#391 [08:20] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Are you using Windows 7?
#392 [08:21] <Uassked4it> Vista. It is a older computer.
#393 [08:21] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Are you logged in as administrator ?
#394 [08:21] <Uassked4it> That would have probably been a good thing to know starting this conversation.
#395 [08:21] <Uassked4it> Yes, I am an Admin.
#396 [08:21] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: I am going to suggest you add a line to the launcher.bat.
#397 [08:22] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Right mouse click on MoreRAMMCLauncher.bat and click edit and it should open in Notepad
#398 [08:22] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Move teh cursor to the line after the "java" line and type the word "pause", with no quotes.
#399 [08:25] <Uassked4it> Still quits on me, still only the 2 files.
#400 [08:26] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Does a black Windows command prompt window appear when you double click the bat file?
#401 [08:27] <Uassked4it> a command prompt asking me if want to run the file appears, yes.
#402 [08:28] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Try this, click Start, type cmd and hit enter
#403 [08:28] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: A large black Command window should appear
#404 [08:28] <Uassked4it> I now have a black window command prompt.
#405 [08:29] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Good, now type java -version and press Enter
#406 [08:29] <Uassked4it> java version "1.6.0_26"
#407 [08:30] <Uassked4it> Java<TM> SE Runtime Environment <build 1.6.0_26-b03>
#408 [08:30] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Good, now type dir and press enter, a long list of files and folders should appear
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#410 [08:30] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Is one of them "Desktop"
#411 [08:30] <Uassked4it> yes
#412 [08:31] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: type cd Desktop and press Enter
#413 [08:31] <Uassked4it> okay
#414 [08:31] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: type dir and press enter
#415 [08:32] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Is the folder you created listed there? Or is minecraft.exe listed there?
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#417 [08:32] <Uassked4it> no, because I moved them to a seperate folder of their own. I can move them back.
#418 [08:33] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Ok
#419 [08:33] <Uassked4it> now they are listed
#420 [08:34] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: in that black command window type java -Xmx800M -cp minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#421 [08:37] <Uassked4it> Okay the minecraft launcher has popped up.
#422 [08:37] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: what do you see in the black command window ?
#423 [08:38] <Uassked4it> nothing. i just loaded the minecraft launcher after i hit enter. No more list or anything are after me typing that.
#424 [08:38] <Uassked4it> *it just loaded...
#425 [08:39] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: never mind, in the minecraft launcher just login for now, but keep the minecraft window it's usual small size so that you can still see the black window
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#427 [08:39] <Uassked4it> okay, now the command window has posted some things
#428 [08:40] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: has minecraft crashed with the not enough memory error ?
#429 [08:41] <Uassked4it> Not yet.
#430 [08:43] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: When it does then in the black window, please select and copy then: mouse left click the top left corner of the window, clcik Edit and click Select all; then mouse left click the top left corner again click edit and click copy
#431 [08:44] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: That was confusing. To copy text from the Windows command window do this: mouse left click the top left corner of the window, click Edit and click Select all; then mouse left click the top left corner again click edit and click copy.
#432 [08:47] <Uassked4it> Here is the bit for after it loaded the program.
#433 [08:47] <Uassked4it> C:\Users\Lauren\Desktop>java -Xmx800M -cp minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFr ame 27 achievements 174 recipes Setting user: Uassked4it, -6997366640742398585 Loading: net.java.games.input.DirectAndRawInputEnvironmentPlugin Starting up SoundSystem... Initializing LWJGL OpenAL (The LWJGL binding of OpenAL. For more information, see http://www.lwjgl.or g
#434 [08:47] <Uassked4it> ...........thats not at all what it says
#435 [08:48] <Uassked4it> C:\Users\Lauren\Desktop>java -Xmx800M -cp minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFr ame 27 achievements 174 recipes Setting user: Uassked4it, -6997366640742398585 Loading: net.java.games.input.DirectAndRawInputEnvironmentPlugin
#436 [08:48] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: please don't paste that here.
#437 [08:48] <Uassked4it> Okay then.
#438 [08:49] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: the bot here may treat it as spam, and we use pastebin for large amounts of text
#439 [08:50] <Uassked4it> Alright. What would you like me to do.
#440 [08:50] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: I still do not understand why the launcher batch file does not work on your system. When the Launcher.bat quit on you were there any errors?
#441 [08:51] <Uassked4it> In the black command window?
#442 [08:52] <AureliusM> Yes
#443 [08:52] <Uassked4it> Yes. A "GL ERROR"
#444 [08:52] <Uassked4it> @ post render
#445 [08:52] <Uassked4it> 1285: Out of memory
#446 [08:54] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: I see. Ok, try this different bacth file in your Desktop: http://pastebin.com/GM1j8Wdr
#447 [08:55] <Uassked4it> Do I save the test as a notepad file on my desktop?
#448 [08:55] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: download that pastebin.com file (I just made it), to your Desktop named as m800.bat . Make sure the name ends in ".bat"
#449 [08:56] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Yes, then open it in Notepad to check it contains those four lines - first line should be echo... and last line pause.
#450 [08:57] <Uassked4it> It is those lines, and it now saved on the desktop as a bat file
#451 [08:58] <Uassked4it> Should I remove the previous .bat file?
#452 [08:59] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: No, as long as they have different names
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#455 [09:00] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Now double click the m800.bat file and login to minecraft as usual
#456 [09:00] <Uassked4it> SUCCESSS WE HAVE AN ERROR FILE
#457 [09:01] <Uassked4it> ........And it's empty.
#458 [09:01] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Are there two files, err1.txt and err2.txt?
#459 [09:01] <nisse> How do I start multiplayer and join another server?
#460 [09:01] <Uassked4it> err too says only "^C"
#461 [09:02] <Uassked4it> *err2....
#462 [09:02] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: What does the black command window show? It should end with a pause
#463 [09:03] <Uassked4it> It actually hasn't changed at all.
#464 [09:03] <Uassked4it> No new codes, lines, or prompts
#465 [09:03] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Is Minecraft still running?
#466 [09:04] <Uassked4it> No. It gave me the memory error message.
#467 [09:04] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: where did the message appear? Just in the Minecraft window?
#468 [09:04] <Uassked4it> Yes.
#469 [09:05] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Is this minecraft.exe freshly downloaded from minecraft.net/download webpage?
#470 [09:05] <Uassked4it> Yes.
#471 [09:05] <Uassked4it> This morning actually.
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#474 [09:08] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: I am trying to figure out how to get java on your Vista to produce an error log. I also have Vista, and these batch commands leave log files.
#475 [09:09] <Uassked4it> It's Windows Vista Ultimate, if that makes any difference.
#476 [09:10] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: try this: click Start Control Panel , click the Java icon looking like a coffee cup
#477 [09:10] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: in the Java Control Panel click the Advanced tab and click the + next to Debugging
#478 [09:11] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: does the line Show applet ... have a tick mark? If no, click it to make a tick appear
#479 [09:11] <Uassked4it> WOuld you like me to click enable tracing or enable logging? Those are also unmarked.
#480 [09:12] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: not yet, my JAVA also does not have them checked, I only have the show exceptions.
#481 [09:12] <Uassked4it> Alright. Should I try the m800 launch again?
#482 [09:12] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: I have used tracing and logging but it can give too much output
#483 [09:13] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Was the Show unchecked when you first looked? And it is now ticked?
#484 [09:13] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: If so, then yes try the m800.bat file again
#485 [09:13] <Uassked4it> Yes, it as unmarked, noe it is marked.
#486 [09:13] <Uassked4it> *now
#487 [09:13] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: If this works, then you've helped solve why others have had no error logs too.
#488 [09:14] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: (But I am always pessimistic that this is the reason.) (I'm away for 2 minutes)
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#492 [09:16] <Uassked4it> So it worked. the err1 file just repeats what it told me in the black command prompt 11 times.
#493 [09:16] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: and the err2.txt file?
#494 [09:16] <Uassked4it> GL ERROR, @ Post render, 1285: Out of memory
#495 [09:16] <Uassked4it> is blank.
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#497 [09:17] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: teh err1.txt has nothing else, just GL:ERROR? No long list of java exceptions?
#498 [09:18] <Uassked4it> http://pastebin.com/a3LC7nQ8
#499 [09:19] <[L]> GL Error ey?
#500 [09:19] <[L]> Graphical problem.. Hm
#501 [09:20] <Uassked4it> Is it something simpler then? That my java needs to be updated or that I should be running it a different bit size?
#502 [09:21] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: I am reading up on this GL_ERROR now. I have also had it once
#503 [09:22] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: It happens when I try to play on a very large and complex map with an old Nvidia graphics card
#504 [09:22] <Uassked4it> my graphics card is a bit old, a Nvidia 8800
#505 [09:23] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Mine is an even older 6500.
#506 [09:24] <Uassked4it> Then what is my goofy PC doing?
#507 [09:24] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Do you have a 64 bit Vista?
#508 [09:24] <tyteen4a03> I wouldn't call a computer with 3GB RAM goofy :P
#509 [09:25] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: If yes, then make sure the Java is the 64 bit version. If not (like mine) I suggest keeping Render distance at Normal or below, and reduce a few of Minecraft's video options.
#510 [09:26] <Uassked4it> My system is 32 bit actually.
#511 [09:26] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Many months ago I was able to reproduce this 1285 GL_ERROR on a player's map, it always happened after several switches to full screen and back to normal window.
#512 [09:27] <Uassked4it> If I do anything it'll pop up, mining, placings blocks, just jumping around.
#513 [09:27] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Full screen?
#514 [09:27] <Uassked4it> And the render distance is set to tiny.
#515 [09:28] <Uassked4it> no, just in it's little window.
#516 [09:28] <Uassked4it> That's why I'm really confused
#517 [09:28] <Uassked4it> it should be working, but it doesn't.
#518 [09:29] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Is render distance Far? What about smooth lighting? Advanced OpenGL?
#519 [09:29] <Uassked4it> All off.
#520 [09:29] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: sorry did not read your answer above.
#521 [09:30] <Uassked4it> Clouds off, everything set down as low as it will go.
#522 [09:31] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: That is strange, I can only create this error on my Vista by pushing all the options to extreme
#523 [09:31] <Uassked4it> Indeed it is. I don't understand.
#524 [09:31] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: I do use the minecraft.jar instead of the .exe but that should make little difference.
#525 [09:32] <Uassked4it> should i switch it and try it that way?
#526 [09:32] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: I remember following this thread when investigating this: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/72384-gl-error-post-render-1285-out-of-memory/
#527 [09:32] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: If you know how to use the minecraft.jar in a command file, yes do so, it lets you control the memory use
#528 [09:33] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: I just remembered I also use the Optifine mod so that might fix teh error. Wait I will test vanilla 1.0.0 again
#529 [09:36] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: I am now stress-testing 1.0.0 with all options maxxed with Optifine there is no problem just slow FPS; I will now test vanilla at max.
#530 [09:40] <Uassked4it> just the simple switch to .jar instead of .exe seemed to fix it
#531 [09:40] <Uassked4it> it's not crashing on me, nor running slowly.
#532 [09:40] <Uassked4it> ....after all this time, just name it ".jar" instead of ".exe"........
#533 [09:41] <Uassked4it> So ummmm, there we go!
#534 [09:41] <Uassked4it> Now we know how to fix it apparently...
#535 [09:41] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: strange; you renamed the .exe to .jar?
#536 [09:42] <Uassked4it> yes
#537 [09:42] <Uassked4it> right click, rename "Minecraft.exe" to "Minecraft.jar"
#538 [09:42] <Uassked4it> double click load up.
#539 [09:42] <Uassked4it> Works fine.
#540 [09:43] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: Well, the .exe is a jar wrapped inside an Windows executable, so its extension should make no difference. Windows must be doing something screwy.
#541 [09:43] <Uassked4it> .........No idea why it's working. Perhaps my system prefers .jars
#542 [09:43] <Uassked4it> Or my system is doing something screwy, even two PCs with the same build will at differently.
#543 [09:43] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: There is a minecraft.jar version from minecraft.net/download under the "Linux" section: that's the version I use
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#545 [09:44] <Uassked4it> Oh well I don't have a Linux.
#546 [09:44] <Uassked4it> Anyways, it's working now for whatever reason. So thank you very much for your help AureliusM over the past......... 2 hours........
#547 [09:44] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: It works in Windows too.
#548 [09:45] <KostiK1988> hello ...how long must I wait after I payed for the game...till I can play ?...sorry my english is bad
#549 [09:45] <Uassked4it> Goodbye! And thank you again for helping. I know it took a very long time.
#550 [09:46] <AureliusM> Uassked4it: I've been playing minecraft and having snacks and reading stuff in the past hours. But do come back or ask at getsatisfaction.com/mojang if you need more help, or tips
#551 [09:46] <AureliusM> too late
#552 [09:46] * AureliusM is still puzzled why a rename should have such an effect
#552 [09:47] <KostiK1988> ?
#553 [09:47] <KostiK1988> are here some german people ??? to help me plz ^^
#554 [09:48] <AureliusM> KostiK1988: sorry, we don't handle account issues here, but some people have waited for a few days after paying.
#555 [09:48] <AureliusM> KostiK1988: I can understand German.
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#557 [09:49] <AureliusM> KostiK1988: http://minecraft.de/index.php is a good German forum for minecraft
#558 [09:49] <AureliusM> KostiK1988: http://minecraft.de/index.php is a good German forum for minecraft
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#560 [09:51] <ali-amatriox> hi can you help me my minecraft says when i open it
#561 [09:51] <ali-amatriox> sorry i cant paste it
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#563 [09:52] <ali-amatriox> my minecraft says it has crashed
#564 [09:54] <siumut> Hi everyone when i try to run the game i get following fault message : Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
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#566 [09:55] <siumut> does anyone reconice this problem
#567 [09:57] <tyteen4a03> siumut: Are you on Windows?
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#569 [09:59] <siumut> Tyteen: yes, windows 7
#570 [10:01] <tyteen4a03> ??> siumut win/dxdiag
#571 [10:01] <VoxelHead> siumut: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#572 [10:01] <VoxelHead> siumut: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#573 [10:02] <tyteen4a03> Please follow VoxelHead's instruction
#574 [10:02] <siumut> ok, will try now...
#575 [10:08] <siumut> Voxelhead: what is the IRC channel?
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#577 [10:12] <tyteen4a03> siumut: here
#578 [10:14] <siumut> http://pastebin.com/qspPX5dq
#579 [10:14] <tyteen4a03> siumut: hang on
#580 [10:15] <siumut> ok
#581 [10:15] <tyteen4a03> ??< pci/database
#582 [10:16] <tyteen4a03> siumut: Hang on
#583 [10:16] <siumut> was this for me?
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#585 [10:17] <Nietosvuori> hello! i got problem to start minecraft nothings happens when i start
#586 [10:17] <Nietosvuori> it
#587 [10:17] <tyteen4a03> Nietosvuori: Are you using Minecraft.exe to launch Minecraft?
#588 [10:18] <tyteen4a03> siumut: hang on
#589 [10:18] <Nietosvuori> ok
#590 [10:18] <Nietosvuori> yeah i do
#591 [10:19] <tyteen4a03> Nietosvori: Do you see a window at all?
#592 [10:19] <Nietosvuori> nope :/
#593 [10:20] <tyteen4a03> Nietosvuori: Can you go to minecraft.net/play and see what happens?
#594 [10:20] <tyteen4a03> siumut: Do you know the product number of your laptop?
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#596 [10:21] <Nietosvuori> it comes up "wrong click for more inte
#597 [10:21] <Nietosvuori> onfo*
#598 [10:21] <Nietosvuori> info*
#599 [10:21] <tyteen4a03> Nietosvuori: Can you type out the exact message here?
#600 [10:21] <siumut> HP Pavilion dv6
#601 [10:22] <Nietosvuori> exact message is: Fel, klicka för mer information
#602 [10:23] <tyteen4a03> siumut: Do you know anything more than that?
#603 [10:23] <tyteen4a03> siumut: or that's all you know
#604 [10:23] <tyteen4a03> Nietosvuori: hmm, I can't understand sweden... can you click the More Info thing?
#605 [10:24] <Nietosvuori> i click more info then details and this appears: Java-plugin 1.6.0_30 Använder JRE-version 1.6.0_30-b12 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM Användarens hemkatalog = C:\Users\TimN ---------------------------------------------------- c: töm systemfönster f: slutför objekt i slutföringskö g: skräpinsamling h: visa det här hjälpmeddelandet l: dumpa class
#606 [10:25] <tyteen4a03> Nietosvuori: Please use pastebin.com
#607 [10:26] <AureliusM> ??> Nietosvuori pastebin
#608 [10:26] <VoxelHead> Nietosvuori: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#610 [10:27] <Nietosvuori> http://pastebin.com/XGCSS1cD
#611 [10:27] <m4r1anN> Hello.When i enter to minecraft it gaves me that error : --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 1e9eae24 -------- Generated 06.01.2012 17:15 Minecraft: Minecraft 1.0.0 OS: Windows Vista (x86) version 6.0 Java: 1.6.0_30, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 OpenGL: Intel(R) G41 Express Chipset version 2.1.0 - B
#612 [10:28] <tyteen4a03> m4r1anN: Please use pastebin.com to paste the error
#613 [10:28] <tyteen4a03> siumut: Have you installed a mod before?
#614 [10:29] <siumut> no
#615 [10:30] <tyteen4a03> ??> siumut win/gpuz
#616 [10:30] <VoxelHead> siumut: (win/gpuz) GPUz is a utility which can, in some cases, help identify the model of graphics card on a system, even if there are no (or incorrect) drivers installed for it.
#617 [10:30] <VoxelHead> siumut: (win/gpuz) GPUz's download page: http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2018/mirrors.php
#618 [10:31] <tyteen4a03> siumut: Please download and install this software, tell me when you are done
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#620 [10:35] <Nietosvuori> how its going on my issue??
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#622 [10:36] <tyteen4a03> Nietosvuori: Have you ever installed any mods?
#623 [10:36] <Nietosvuori> yes i have
#624 [10:36] <Ali-A> yes
#625 [10:36] <tyteen4a03> ??> Ali-A only/you
#626 [10:36] <VoxelHead> Ali-A: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#627 [10:36] <VoxelHead> Ali-A: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#628 [10:37] <tyteen4a03> Nietosvuori: Try a force update
#629 [10:37] <tyteen4a03> ??> Nietosvuori forceupdate
#630 [10:37] <VoxelHead> Nietosvuori: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#631 [10:37] <VoxelHead> Nietosvuori: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#632 [10:37] <Nietosvuori> but when i start minecraft nothings happens i dont get up login screen
#633 [10:37] <Nietosvuori> so i cant
#634 [10:38] <tyteen4a03> ??> Nietosvuori win/reinst/bat
#635 [10:38] <VoxelHead> Nietosvuori: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#636 [10:38] <VoxelHead> Nietosvuori: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#637 [10:38] <Ali-A> can you help me i installed planes mod and everything it needs but it crashed
#638 [10:38] <tyteen4a03> ??> Ali-A forceupdate
#639 [10:38] <VoxelHead> Ali-A: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#640 [10:38] <VoxelHead> Ali-A: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#641 [10:38] <Nietosvuori> it says it cant find the files
#642 [10:39] <Ali-A> VoxelHead i did
#643 [10:39] <tyteen4a03> Nietosvuori: Have you ever applied the win/! setup?
#644 [10:39] <tyteen4a03> ??> Nietosvuori win/!
#645 [10:39] <VoxelHead> Nietosvuori: (win/!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#646 [10:39] <VoxelHead> Nietosvuori: (win/!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#647 [10:39] <tyteen4a03> ^this
#648 [10:40] <tyteen4a03> Nietosvuori: Have you ever applied the win/! setup?
#649 [10:40] <Nietosvuori> no
#650 [10:40] <tyteen4a03> Nietosvuori: Hmm...
#651 [10:40] <tyteen4a03> ??> Nietosvuori win/reinst
#652 [10:40] <VoxelHead> Nietosvuori: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#653 [10:40] <VoxelHead> Nietosvuori: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#655 [10:40] <Ali-A> help me
#656 [10:41] <tyteen4a03> Ali-A: Please follow VoxelHead's instrctions
#657 [10:41] <tyteen4a03> *instructions
#658 [10:41] <tyteen4a03> ??> Ali-A forceupdate
#659 [10:41] <VoxelHead> Ali-A: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#660 [10:41] <VoxelHead> Ali-A: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#661 [10:42] <Nietosvuori> it didnt work i have done it many times before but now it doesnt work :(
#662 [10:43] <tyteen4a03> Nietosvuori: Probably a problem with java.. can you try reinstalling java"
#663 [10:43] <tyteen4a03> ?
#664 [10:43] <Nietosvuori> did it 1 hour ago :/
#665 [10:43] <Ali-A> im updating.....
#666 [10:44] <tyteen4a03> Nietosvuori: Hmm... hang on
#667 [10:44] <siumut> i cant find the updating:(
#668 [10:44] <Ali-A> UPDATED ITS WORKSSSSSSS :O
#669 [10:45] <tyteen4a03> siumut: Ok... hang on
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#671 [10:45] <siumut> ok
#672 [10:45] <D00dle_MH> hi all
#673 [10:45] <D00dle_MH> can someone help me ?
#674 [10:46] <tyteen4a03> D00dle_MH: Yes?
#675 [10:46] <tyteen4a03> siumut: Try this driver: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-100231-1&cc=uk&dlc=en&lc=en&os=4063&product=5182507&sw_lang=
#676 [10:46] <siumut> ok
#677 [10:46] <D00dle_MH> I made a server (with the fCraft software) , but only I can join
#678 [10:46] <D00dle_MH> port is open
#679 [10:47] <tyteen4a03> D00dle_MH: fCraft's support channel is #fCraft (I can help you but there are several people that needs help also)
#680 [10:47] <D00dle_MH> ohmm.... I asked there
#681 [10:47] <D00dle_MH> and someone from there told me, that I should to ask here
#682 [10:47] <tyteen4a03> D00dle_MH: he misunderstood you
#683 [10:48] <Ali-A> THANKS MY MINECRAFT NOW WORKS
#684 [10:48] <D00dle_MH> :'(
#685 [10:49] <Nietosvuori> how its going with my issue?
#686 [10:49] <tyteen4a03> Nietosvuori: Your problem is kinda tricky, hang on
#687 [10:49] <Nietosvuori> ok :P
#688 [10:49] <Nietosvuori> ok :P
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#691 [10:52] <tyteen4a03> Nietosvuori: The error report is hinting that your installation of java is broken. Are you sure you have uninstalled and installed java?
#692 [10:53] <Nietosvuori> yep but can try again
#693 [10:54] <Nietosvuori> i have to close this side then and i come in again when i have installed with same nick name
#694 [10:54] <Nietosvuori> brb
#695 [10:54] <Ketsueki> ??> Nietosvuori win/javara
#696 [10:54] <VoxelHead> Nietosvuori: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#697 [10:54] <VoxelHead> Nietosvuori: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software and you can download it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/javara/files/
#698 [10:55] <tyteen4a03> Ketsueki: thanks :P
#699 [10:57] <tyteen4a03> http://pastebin.com/XGCSS1cD for me to remember
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#702 [11:01] <mib_lr6dpr> i need help
#703 [11:02] <mib_lr6dpr> when i click login it loads a green bar for 1 sec then closes and has a erro
#704 [11:02] <mib_lr6dpr> `/nick thenedman
#705 [11:03] <mib_lr6dpr> "/nick thenedman"
#706 [11:03] <mib_lr6dpr> ?
#707 [11:04] <tyteen4a03> mib_lr6dpr: Type them without quotes
#708 [11:04] <tyteen4a03> mib_lr6dpr: Also, can you paste the error on pastebin.com?
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#714 [11:14] <ned> are you there i need help i cant go on the game but i have borte premium
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#716 [11:16] <GreyVulpine> ned - What happens when you try and go onto the game?
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#718 [11:20] <ned> it just closes and then brings up an erro
#719 [11:20] <ned> witch dose not explane enythink
#720 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> ned - Please copy the contents of that error, paste it to www.pastebin.com and submit it, then give us the URL so that we may read it
#721 [11:22] <ned> what URL
#722 [11:24] <ned> do you want me to copy the full erro details
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#724 [11:26] <joe> minecraft crashed
#725 [11:26] <ned> no it just want evan go on to the game
#726 [11:27] <joe> How do i fix it
#727 [11:27] <joe> it says it crashed
#728 [11:27] <ned> hello joe
#729 [11:27] <joe> hello ned
#730 [11:27] <ned> do you have mincraft and dose yours ever work
#731 [11:28] <joe> yes & yes
#732 [11:28] <ned> i just bort it but i wont worked
#733 [11:28] <joe> what
#734 [11:28] <ned> it just says download for a second then shutdown and says erro
#735 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> ned - What does the error say?
#736 [11:29] <ned> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000000006c62f5bf, pid=5512, tid=5748 # # JRE version: 6.0_27-b07 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (20.2-b06 mixed mode windows-amd64 compressed oops) # Problematic frame: # C [aticfx64.dll+0x2f5bf] # # If you would like to sub
#737 [11:29] <joe> just a sec
#738 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> That would be your ATI video drivers. Do you know how to update them ned?
#739 [11:29] <ned> no how
#740 [11:29] <ned> ?
#741 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> First off, do you have a toshiba c660 laptop?
#742 [11:29] <ned> i think
#743 [11:29] <joe> Mods loaded: 24 ModLoader 1.0.0 mod_Arrows 1.0.0 mod_ModLoaderMp 1.0.0 mod_ReiMinimap v2.9 [1.0.0] mod_Stackables 1.0.0 mod_TwilightForest 1.5r1 mod_Armor 1.0.0 mod_CraftGuide 1.2.2 mod_crystalWing Minecraft 1.0.0 mod_ElementalCreepers 1.0.0 mod_EE EEv5.7.3 mod_ingameInfo Release 2 [2011/12/1] for Minecraft 1.0.0 mod_InvTweaks 1.33 (1.0.0) mod_mocreatures v3.
#744 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> You think?
#745 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> joe - We don't assist with mods here.
#746 [11:30] <ned> ye its a windows 7 tosiba
#747 [11:30] <joe> oh
#748 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> ned - What is the model of your toshiba?
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#750 [11:30] <ned> um how do you find out
#751 [11:31] <ned> do you have a phone line i could talk to you on
#752 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> No.
#753 [11:31] <ned> ok how do you find out the laptop model
#754 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, right click on your Computer, and go to properties
#755 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> Tell me what the computer manufacturer and model is listed as there.
#756 [11:32] <skippydippy> if my computer is a 2007 model will Minecraft work
#757 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> That depends skippydippy.
#758 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> Not all computers made in 2007, have the same computer components. Desktops might work, laptops and netbooks might or might not, depending on what components they have.
#759 [11:33] <ned> model= personal computer make= Tosiba
#760 [11:33] <ned> i meen toshiba
#761 [11:33] <skippydippy> because it says my drivers all updated
#762 [11:34] <skippydippy> but it still does not work
#763 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Do you know what CPU your computer has? How much RAM? What video card it has?
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#765 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Could you give me an idea of what type of computer this is?
#766 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> ned - Alright. Let's try this another way. Please go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: dxdiag
#767 [11:35] <skippydippy> no but it says my video card is not up to date
#768 [11:35] <ned> OK
#769 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> ned - Please tell me when you have the directx diagnostic window ok
#770 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> open
#771 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy = please do the same thing I'm telling ned to do.
#772 [11:36] <skippydippy> ok one sec
#773 [11:36] <ned> what sorry
#774 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> ned - Please go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: dxdiag
#775 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> ned - Tell me when you have the directx diagnostic window open
#776 [11:36] <ned> ye i done that and opend it
#777 [11:37] <skippydippy> what start menu
#778 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Button in your lower left of your screen
#779 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> ned - What is the system model listed there?
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#781 [11:37] <ned> C660
#782 [11:37] <ned> satelite
#783 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> Thank you, that's what I needed
#784 [11:38] <ned> cool
#785 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> ned - Please follow these directions to get your video card's drivers updated: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
#786 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> You'll be able to play minecraft when you've downloaded and installed them
#787 [11:38] <ned> ok ill try
#788 [11:38] <skippydippy> wait is this on this webpage
#789 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Hello? You still there?
#790 [11:38] <skippydippy> yes
#791 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Are you on windows?
#792 [11:39] <ned> is this your job
#793 [11:39] <ned> ?
#794 [11:39] <skippydippy> no mac
#795 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> ned - I do not work for Mojang, nor do I get paid by them. We're all community volunteers here.
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#797 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> We help others try to get minecraft working on their computer, out of the kindness of our heart.
#798 [11:40] <ned> wow thank you so much for helping me but not done yet ;)
#799 [11:40] <ned> im downloading a new driver
#800 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Ah, well then. Go to your apple icon in the upper left. Look for System preferences. Then, Apple Update. Make sure you have all the updates from there
#801 [11:40] <skippydippy> ok i have my dell now
#802 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> Your.. dell?
#803 [11:41] <ned> no im Toshiba
#804 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> I thought you had a mac?
#805 [11:41] <ned> if your talking to me
#806 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> ned - I'm not.
#807 [11:41] <ned> are ok sorry
#808 [11:41] <skippydippy> i do but i what it on my dell
#809 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Is your dell the one with the video driver problem?
#810 [11:42] <skippydippy> yes and the model is vostro 1000
#811 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Does it have access to the internet?
#812 [11:42] <skippydippy> yes
#813 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Could you connect via your dell here? It would make it a lot easier.
#814 [11:43] <skippydippy> the ram is 1918mb
#815 [11:43] <skippydippy> ok
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#817 [11:45] <skippydippy> sorry its taking a long time to load
#818 [11:46] <skippydippy> and adding a pinch of salt
#819 [11:48] <skippydippy> hello are u still here
#820 [11:48] <ned> he is still there
#821 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes. Waiting on you.
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#823 [11:49] <skippy2> hi iam ready
#824 [11:49] <ned> im downloading a windows7 64bit exe will that work
#825 [11:50] <skippy2> im skippydippy
#826 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> ned - No, follow the directions exactly in the post that I gave you
#827 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Do you have it booted up? Do you see a start menu in the lower left?
#828 [11:50] <ned> are ok i wil do will that fix the game
#829 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> ned - Yes
#830 [11:50] <skippy2> yes
#831 [11:51] <clarjon1> ned: We wouldn't give those instructions out if they weren't supposed to fix the game :P
#832 [11:51] <skippy2> now what should i do now
#833 [11:51] <ned> what dose "extract it to a folder" mean
#834 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Please go to the start menu, do you have a search bar, or Run command there?
#835 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> ned - Right click on the .zip file that you downloaded and extract it
#836 [11:52] <skippy2> yes search bar
#837 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> It could also be named "Uncompress", or "Unzip"
#838 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - In the search bar, please put in: dxdiag
#839 [11:52] <ned> ok thanks :)
#840 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Press enter. Tell me when you have the directx diagnostic window open
#841 [11:52] <skippy2> ok a page poped up
#842 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Do you see a button labeled, "Save all information" in the lower right?
#843 [11:53] <skippy2> yes
#844 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> Press the "Save all information" button, and save the dxdiag.txt on your desktop
#845 [11:53] <skippy2> should i press it
#846 [11:54] <skippy2> ok now what
#847 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> Next, close the directx window. Go to your desktop, and open the document that you just saved.
#848 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> Please go up to Edit -> select all, then Edit -> copy. Using a web browser, go to the website: http://www.pastebin.com
#849 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> There, you should see a text box under the label, "Create new paste", please put the text in the text box using "Paste" from the edit menu.
#850 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Submit it, then give us the new http:// address in your browser's address bar
#851 [11:55] <skippy2> slow down
#852 [11:57] <ned> i downloaded the driver and clicked on it but now i dont no what to do a load off stuff came up in a folder like graphics intel controlcenter iips and lots more witch do i extracked
#853 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> ned - Like the instructions told you, unzip all the files to a folder that you can get to.
#854 [11:59] <ned> are all of them ok thanks
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#856 [12:00] <mindboy1234> my pc will not run game for my son vidio card is not go for it ,,, what do i do to try and get his money back ??
#857 [12:00] <skippy2> how do i give u the address
#858 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> mindboy1234 - Mojang's refund policy can be found at: http://www.minecraft.net/support -- under payment/support
#859 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Copy it here
#860 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> mindboy1234 - Er, payment/refund
#861 [12:01] <mindboy1234> ty very much
#862 [12:01] <skippy2> http://pastebin.com/7bw32800
#863 [12:01] <skippy2> did that work
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#865 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Yes, one moment while I look it over
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#867 [12:03] <Dobstopper> Hi ok see I need help
#868 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Please go to dell's website here: http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/DriversHome/
#869 [12:04] <Dobstopper> Whenever I start Minecraft the Launcher will open and I cant log in then it will go past the Mojang part
#870 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - There, you'll put in: Choose from a list of all Dell products -> Laptop -> Vostro -> Vostro 1000 --- From there, you'll be able to find the video drivers you need to download and install
#871 [12:05] <Ketsueki> Dobstopper: are you able to login in minecraft.net ?
#872 [12:05] <Dobstopper> After that I will choose Single player and my world then as soon as the world finishes loading then the launcher crashes please help me?
#873 [12:05] <Dobstopper> And yes I can
#874 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - Does it crash on all worlds, or just that one? Have you tried making a new world?
#875 [12:06] <Dobstopper> ALL!!!!!!!!!!
#876 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - Easy on the caps.
#877 [12:06] <skippy2> do i have a service tag
#878 [12:06] <Dobstopper> sorry i was just expressing my point
#879 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - DO you get an error report? Any files named hs_err_pid where you have the l
#880 [12:06] <Dobstopper> yes i do
#881 [12:06] <skippy2> or code
#882 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - Please share them via pastebin.com and give us the URL so that we may read it
#883 [12:06] <Ketsueki> ??> Dobstopper pastebin
#884 [12:06] <VoxelHead> Dobstopper: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#885 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - No.
#886 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - There, you'll put in: Choose from a list of all Dell products -> Laptop -> Vostro -> Vostro 1000 --- From there, you'll be able to find the video drivers you need to download and install
#887 [12:09] <Dobstopper> http://pastebin.com/k4rSuXDL this is where it took me
#888 [12:09] <Dobstopper> Hello?
#889 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - Looks like your problem lies with a legacy video chipset. You're still running an old video card that minecraft does not support.
#890 [12:09] <Dobstopper> ok how do i fix it?
#891 [12:09] <skippy2> grey it says i need a service tag to see the latest updates
#892 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - Buy a new video card, or a new computer?
#893 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - No, you don't.
#894 [12:11] <Dobstopper> where can i get a new video card and which one would you suggest?
#895 [12:11] <skippy2> http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19
#896 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - What is to the right of the service tag field? Do you see a series of 3 options?
#897 [12:11] <Dobstopper> Also do you need to know what version my computer is?
#898 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - One of them should say, "Choose from a list of all Dell products"
#899 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - That's not something we assist with here.
#900 [12:11] <skippy2> no im way past that
#901 [12:11] <ned> thank you so much i done it wont no if it has worked untill i reset my comp if not i will com back here again thank :)
#902 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Are you at your Vostro 1000 page?
#903 [12:11] <Dobstopper> Ok thank you for the help
#904 [12:11] <skippy2> yes
#905 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> ned - Good luck
#906 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Do you see a Video heading at the bottom?
#907 [12:11] <Dobstopper> If i have a problem again Ill come back
#908 [12:12] <skippy2> it says one video
#909 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Okay, expand it. Do you see a download button to the right?
#910 [12:13] <skippy2> yes
#911 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Press that.
#912 [12:13] <skippy2> k
#913 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> Choose the first option, then download it.
#914 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> When it finishes downloading, you'll need to install it.
#915 [12:14] <skippy2> it says
#916 [12:14] <skippy2> what should i do
#917 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Run it
#918 [12:14] <Dobstopper> Skippy you need to run it
#919 [12:15] <skippy2> im downloading it and im at 15% ya
#920 [12:15] <Dobstopper> Would you be able to tell me how to put my Video card in?
#921 [12:15] <skippy2> 25%
#922 [12:16] <Dobstopper> Also do I need a video card or a graphics card?
#923 [12:16] <skippy2> ive got a varly slow computer
#924 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - A video and a graphics card are the same thing
#925 [12:17] <Dobstopper> oh ok lol
#926 [12:17] <Dobstopper> what kind of graphics card do i have?
#927 [12:18] <skippy2> 70%
#928 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - You have a UniChrome (Pro) IGP video card
#929 [12:18] <py2> 80%
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#931 [12:19] <Dobstopper> To run Mine Craft what type of Graphics card would you suggest?
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#933 [12:19] <skippy2> 95%
#934 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - Anything that's not that. A discrete video card would be best.
#935 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Anything from nvidia or ATI
#936 [12:20] <Dobstopper> Ok thank you
#937 [12:20] <skippy2> its done
#938 [12:20] <skippy2> what should do
#939 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 -Run it
#940 [12:20] <skippy2> it dint give me that
#941 [12:20] <skippy2> option
#942 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Right click on the download and run it
#943 [12:20] <Dobstopper> Nvidia or ATI what about EVGA or Radeon?
#944 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - Radeon is one of ATI's models. Evga distributes nvidia cards
#945 [12:21] <Dobstopper> Oh ok cool
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#947 [12:22] <Dobstopper> so this one would be good: EVGA GeForce 8400 GS 512 MB DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 DVI/HDMI/VGA Graphics Card, 512-P3-1300-LR
#948 [12:22] <skippy2> but i just did download it
#949 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> Yes, that would be a good card
#950 [12:22] <Dobstopper> ok cool
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#952 [12:23] <skippy2> hello
#953 [12:23] <skippy2> grey
#954 [12:23] <Dobstopper> Skippy he said RUN the download that means double click it and then the run option will pop up
#955 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#956 [12:23] <Dobstopper> That is correct right?
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#958 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> Yes, that is correct
#959 [12:24] <Dobstopper> ok
#960 [12:24] <Dobstopper> Skippy did that help you?
#961 [12:24] <skippy2> it says its 51% complete
#962 [12:24] <Dobstopper> ok
#963 [12:24] <skippy2> thanks
#964 [12:24] <Dobstopper> wait for it to get to 100%
#965 [12:24] <skippy2> duh
#966 [12:25] <Dobstopper> wait does it say 51% because you clicked run or because you entered the download file?
#967 [12:25] <skippy2> its just downloading and its 85% complete
#968 [12:25] <Dobstopper> Also Skippy when you get Minecraft running would you like to play together sometime?
#969 [12:25] <Dobstopper> Ok
#970 [12:26] <skippy2> sure dont we need a server to play multiplayer
#971 [12:27] <Dobstopper> seriously!!!!!!?????????
#972 [12:27] <skippy2> its done downloading
#973 [12:27] <Dobstopper> ok do you see a run button or did it close?
#974 [12:27] <Dobstopper> Skippy?
#975 [12:28] <skippy2> ya
#976 [12:28] <Dobstopper> ok do you see a run button or did it close?
#977 [12:28] <skippy2> i ran it
#978 [12:28] <Dobstopper> Grey?
#979 [12:28] <Dobstopper> ok cool
#980 [12:28] <Dobstopper> does minecraft work?
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#982 [12:28] <skippy2> ya ware is gray
#983 [12:28] <Dobstopper> Grey?
#984 [12:28] <nediboy> hello
#985 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> What's up?
#986 [12:29] <nediboy> thank you loads i got the game working
#987 [12:29] <skippy2> it says i need to unzip
#988 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> Glad to hear it.
#989 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Then unzip it
#990 [12:29] <nediboy> how do you fix laging
#991 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> Turn down the video options
#992 [12:29] <Dobstopper> hello
#993 [12:29] <skippy2> i think im done
#994 [12:30] <Dobstopper> hey i have a Mine Craft question
#995 [12:30] <Dobstopper> for grey
#996 [12:30] <nediboy> ok thanks if i had a textur pack would that make it lag more
#997 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> nediboy - It could
#998 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - Yes?
#999 [12:30] <skippy2> im i done now
#1000 [12:30] <Dobstopper> How do You play on Multiplayer without the use of a server
#1001 [12:30] <Dobstopper> ?
#1002 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - You can't
#1003 [12:30] <skippy2> oh
#1004 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - That's the whole point of a multiplayer server, to play with others
#1005 [12:31] <skippy2> is it hard to get a server
#1006 [12:31] <nediboy> thank you bye
#1007 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Did you run the setup file from the install?
#1008 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Not at all
#1009 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#1010 [12:31] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1011 [12:31] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1012 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> There's thousands of minecraft servers, those are just a few websites with a li
#1013 [12:32] <Dobstopper> You can easily make a minecraft sever by going to the website
#1014 [12:32] <skippy2> will minecraft work now
#1015 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - If you've installed the video dirvers, yes
#1016 [12:32] <Dobstopper> also is modding allowed on minecraft?
#1017 [12:32] <skippy2> k should i try to play
#1018 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - MOdding is unsupported, but there's nothing preventing you from doing so
#1019 [12:32] <Dobstopper> probably
#1020 [12:34] <t-207-254-228-104.classicnet.net> ok
#1021 [12:34] <Dobstopper> so you can do it but its frowned upon?
#1022 [12:34] <skippy2> im going to try
#1023 [12:34] <Dobstopper> ok
#1024 [12:34] <clarjon1> Dobstopper: it's not frowned upon
#1025 [12:34] <clarjon1> Dobstopper: It's just that there's too may mods out there for us to be able to provide support :)
#1026 [12:34] <Dobstopper> ok
#1027 [12:34] <clarjon1> Dobstopper: If you run into problems, contact the mod developer :)
#1028 [12:34] <Dobstopper> Oh ok
#1029 [12:34] <Dobstopper> Ok
#1030 [12:34] <clarjon1> They'll usually give instructions on how to give support
#1031 [12:34] <clarjon1> if not, just post a bug report on the forum topic for the mod
#1032 [12:34] <clarjon1> After all, who better to get help from than the person who made the mod, amirite?
#1033 [12:34] <Dobstopper> Also another question if you set up a server can you make it where only 2 people can play on it
#1034 [12:34] <Dobstopper> and yes you are
#1035 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1036 [12:34] <clarjon1> mhm
#1037 [12:34] <clarjon1> Set it to be whitelist only :)
#1038 [12:34] <Dobstopper> epic
#1039 [12:34] <clarjon1> then, add the two player names to the whitelist file
#1040 [12:34] <Dobstopper> so do you guys ge paid for doing this?
#1041 [12:34] <clarjon1> nope
#1042 [12:34] <Dobstopper> oh ok
#1043 [12:34] <clarjon1> We just really love the
#1044 [12:35] <Dobstopper> EPIC
#1045 [12:35] <skippy2> all i have is a white screen
#1046 [12:36] <skippy2> and it says i have a bad video card drivers
#1047 [12:36] <Dobstopper> er idk
#1048 [12:36] <clarjon1> skippy2: Well, it sounds like you need newer graphics card drivers.
#1049 [12:36] <clarjon1> skippy2: or a better graphics card.
#1050 [12:36] <Dobstopper> Like me!!!!!!!!
#1051 [12:36] <clarjon1> xD
#1052 [12:36] <skippy2> how do i get that
#1053 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - I can't tell if you've actually installed those drivers or not
#1054 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> If you had, you would've been asked to reboot your machine at the end
#1055 [12:37] <Dobstopper> Look on amazon thats what I'm doing
#1056 [12:37] <skippy2> k let me try agen
#1057 [12:37] <Dobstopper> Grey
#1058 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - Yes?
#1059 [12:38] <Dobstopper> If i used what skippy used would i be able to play minecraft?
#1060 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> No. you don't have the same video card
#1061 [12:38] <skippy2> what kind of computer do you have
#1062 [12:38] <Dobstopper> so if i did what you told him to do it wouldnt work
#1063 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> It wouldn't work, no.
#1064 [12:39] <Dobstopper> Windows XP V2002 service pack 3
#1065 [12:39] <Dobstopper> Oh ok
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#1067 [12:39] <skippy2> u have a ay better computer
#1068 [12:39] <Dobstopper> Would Minecraft be very laggy on my computer?
#1069 [12:39] <skippy2> and my mac book pro is bad to
#1070 [12:40] <skippy2> dob
#1071 [12:40] <skippy2> u still here
#1072 [12:40] <Dobstopper> I have Java Version 6 Update so would I be able to run Minecraft without it lagging?
#1073 [12:41] <Dobstopper> Yeah I am
#1074 [12:41] <Dobstopper> I had to look something up
#1075 [12:41] <Dobstopper> Grey
#1076 [12:41] <Dobstopper> Clarjon
#1077 [12:41] <Dobstopper> someone?
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#1079 [12:41] <skippy2> grey what do i do when im done downloading
#1080 [12:41] <Dobstopper> Hello?
#1081 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - Having java 6 by itself doesn't mean anything
#1082 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Run the installer
#1083 [12:42] <skippy2> k on sec
#1084 [12:42] <Dobstopper> I have version 6 update 30
#1085 [12:42] <skippy2> 5 more %
#1086 [12:42] <skippy2> 3%
#1087 [12:42] <Dobstopper> But would Minecraft lag on my computer?
#1088 [12:42] <skippy2> done
#1089 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - That's like saying, I have a car with leather seats, My car is obviously capable of racing, right?
#1090 [12:43] <Dobstopper> lol
#1091 [12:44] <Dobstopper> You remind me of one of my friends
#1092 [12:44] <skippy2> it asked if i want to run software
#1093 [12:44] <Dobstopper> yes run it
#1094 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - THen run it
#1095 [12:44] <Dobstopper> lol
#1096 [12:44] <skippy2> video atigp
#1097 [12:45] <skippy2> should i abort
#1098 [12:45] <skippy2> im i done now
#1099 [12:46] <skippy2> grey
#1100 [12:46] <skippy2> hello
#1101 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> I don't know, you tell me?
#1102 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> Did it say you installed the drivers?
#1103 [12:47] <Dobstopper> If I installed Drivers could I run Minecraft
#1104 [12:47] <skippy2> no it sayed i unzid all files and went away
#1105 [12:47] <skippy2> unziped
#1106 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> Then go to where you unzipped those files and run the setup.exe file
#1107 [12:48] <Dobstopper> Grey?
#1108 [12:48] <Dobstopper> If I downloaded some drivers would it make me able to run Minecraft?
#1109 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopper - No.
#1110 [12:48] <Dobstopper> How come
#1111 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> You have an old card, it doesn't support what minecraft needs, even with the latest drivers
#1112 [12:50] <Dobstopper> Oh wow
#1113 [12:50] <skippy2> i froget whare i unziped the files
#1114 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> Then unzip it again, this time, look at where it's unzipping
#1115 [12:51] <skippy2> does that mean i have to download again
#1116 [12:52] <skippy2> help
#1117 [12:52] <skippy2> me
#1118 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> No, you don't need to download it again. You already have the file.
#1119 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> Just run it, unzip it again
#1120 [12:52] <Dobstopper> no you have to Run it
#1121 [12:52] <skippy2> how do i do that
#1122 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Where did you download the file to?
#1123 [12:53] <skippy2> i forget im going to do it again
#1124 [12:55] <skippy2> gtg going to be back in min
#1125 [12:56] <Dobstopper> To put in my new graphics card do i have to uninstall my old graphics drivers?
#1126 [12:56] <DopeGhoti> Dobstopper: it'd generally be wise to, yes.
#1127 [12:56] <Dobstopper> how do i do that?
#1128 [12:58] <Dobstopper> Grey? please help me
#1129 [12:58] <Dobstopper> Hello?
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#1131 [12:59] <rumpler> Hello
#1132 [12:59] <rumpler> I need help
#1133 [12:59] <skippy2> ask grey
#1134 [12:59] <rumpler> ok cool
#1135 [12:59] <rumpler> lol
#1136 [13:00] <skippy2> hes your man
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#1138 [13:00] <skippy2> im done
#1139 [13:00] <Dob> Ok I need to know how to uninstall my graphics card
#1140 [13:01] <skippy2> dob is that u
#1141 [13:01] <Dob> graphics card drivers so that I can get a new graphics card
#1142 [13:01] <Dob> er...
#1143 [13:01] <Dob> yes my name is dob isnt it
#1144 [13:01] <skippy2> dobstopper
#1145 [13:01] <Dob> oh lol yes
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#1147 [13:02] <skippy2> yay
#1148 [13:02] <Dob> Beano do you need help?
#1149 [13:02] <DreadLindwyrm> I think you do it from control panel.
#1150 [13:03] <Dob> i need you to be for sure
#1151 [13:03] <skippy2> nont listen to him
#1152 [13:04] <Dob> yeah lol
#1153 [13:04] <clarjon1> Dob: Go to the website of the ppl who made it
#1154 [13:04] <Dob> we need GreyVulpine to help
#1155 [13:04] <clarjon1> Dob: EG: nvidia card? go to nvidia's site
#1156 [13:04] <AureliusM> Dob: if it's Nvidia, see http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_13955.html
#1157 [13:04] <clarjon1> Dob: Are you getting a new, physical graphics card?
#1158 [13:04] <Dob> its a certain type
#1159 [13:04] <Dob> and yes i am
#1160 [13:05] <clarjon1> Dob: All you gotta do is put it in, and install the drivers
#1161 [13:05] <Dob> but Idk what type of graphics card i have
#1162 [13:05] <clarjon1> Dob: the operating system will stop using the old drivers once the hardware is not used anymore
#1163 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> "its a certain type" <-- This is one of the most unhelpful things ever said, ever.
#1164 [13:05] <Dob> im sorry
#1165 [13:05] <skippy2> grey i unziped the files to desktop
#1166 [13:05] <clarjon1> Dob: You can worry about uninstalling the old drivers after installing the new card :)
#1167 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> ??+ gpu/nvidia/uninstall|Instructions for removing your NVIDIA GPU drivers can be found at http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_13955.html
#1168 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> AureliusM: thanks for that link. FAQ'd.
#1169 [13:07] <DopeGhoti> ??+ gpu/amd/uninstall|Instructions for removing your AMD (formerly ATI) GPU drivers can be found at http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/GPU57RemoveOldGraphicsDrivers.aspx
#1170 [13:08] <skippy2> grey i need help
#1171 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Then go into the files, find setup.exe and run it
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#1175 [13:14] <skippy2> grey
#1176 [13:14] <skippy2> i need help I'm on my mac now
#1177 [13:15] <skippy2> hello
#1178 [13:15] <skippy2> whoes here
#1179 [13:15] <skippy2> grey
#1180 [13:16] <skippy2> someone
#1181 [13:16] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: skippy's here
#1182 [13:18] <skippy2> you guys are no help but your were before
#1183 [13:18] <skippy2> bi
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#1185 [13:23] <quiggle> Can't play with a mac os 10.4. After try to connect with my log an d password, it appears a "not downloaded" aDvert. Help!
#1186 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> quiggle: Mac OS 10.4 is well past its expiration date.
#1187 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> You need at least 10.6 to play Minecraft.
#1188 [13:26] <quiggle> What a good news! But I had already played with my system !
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#1193 [13:30] <t_wrex> my minecraft memebership is no longer premium.
#1194 [13:31] <t_wrex> I purchased an account during beta
#1195 [13:31] <t_wrex> and was allowed to play
#1196 [13:31] <t_wrex> but recently I haven't been allowed to play
#1197 [13:31] <t_wrex> can someone help?
#1198 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Do a http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename on all email addresses you normally use
#1199 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> It'll send back an email with all MC accounts that are linked to that email address, and whether it's premium or not
#1200 [13:32] <t_wrex> ok
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#1202 [13:34] <t_wrex> I got the email but it didn't specify whether my account was premium or not
#1203 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> Then that specific account is not premium. Check other email addreses. You may have forgotten which account you paid for premium under
#1204 [13:35] <t_wrex> I only have one
#1205 [13:35] <t_wrex> one account
#1206 [13:35] <t_wrex> one address
#1207 [13:35] <t_wrex> this isn't user error
#1208 [13:35] <t_wrex> I promise you
#1209 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> If you're absolutely sure abuot that, send an email to help@mojang.com with proof of purchase
#1210 [13:35] <t_wrex> how do you find proof of purchase?
#1211 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> When you bought minecraft, you would've gotten a receipt. That's your proof of purchase.
#1212 [13:37] <t_wrex> isn't the fact that I have an account proof enough? you can't have an account wihtout buying one
#1213 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> Sure you can.
#1214 [13:37] <t_wrex> how?
#1215 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/stats
#1216 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> 19,485,895 registered users, of which 4,566,928 (23.44%) have bought the game.
#1217 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> There's over 19 million user accounts on minecraft.net, only 23% of them are paid for
#1218 [13:38] <t_wrex> fine. But I could play online.
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#1220 [13:38] <t_wrex> I could actually log in where the screen woulnd't say "user not premium?
#1221 [13:39] <TheNoodle> ...
#1222 [13:39] <TheNoodle> t_wrex, you've been told how to solve your problem.
#1223 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> Then that means that user account is not paid for.
#1224 [13:39] <tyteen4a03> I think he's kinda disappointed
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#1228 [13:44] <mib_sc9whq> im having problems with minecraft
#1229 [13:44] <mib_sc9whq> anybody her
#1230 [13:45] <mib_sc9whq> there*
#1231 [13:45] <mib_4dh93s> mee to
#1232 [13:45] <mib_sc9whq> mine wont let me login to get my mineccraft
#1233 [13:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> ? ask
#1234 [13:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? ask
#1235 [13:45] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1236 [13:45] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1237 [13:46] <mib_sc9whq> why wont it let me login to get minecraft?
#1238 [13:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> what syour minecraft username
#1239 [13:46] <mib_sc9whq> BERNARDZ12
#1240 [13:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> `paid BERNARDZ12
#1241 [13:46] <SinZBot> BERNARDZ12 has paid for Minecraft, I'll give them a hug some other time!
#1242 [13:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> can you log into minecraft.net?
#1243 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> that's the problem...
#1244 [13:47] <tyteen4a03> oh, my bad
#1245 [13:47] <mib_sc9whq> yes but you know how you can dowload it right
#1246 [13:47] <mib_sc9whq> well i tried that and it says fail to log in
#1247 [13:47] <mib_4dh93s> i cant open minecraft, it black screens every time
#1248 [13:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? mib_4dh93s win/reinst
#1249 [13:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? win/reinst
#1250 [13:48] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1251 [13:48] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1252 [13:48] <mib_4dh93s> I deleted bin but it didnt help
#1253 [13:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> mib_sc9whq - can you log into www.minecraft.net?
#1254 [13:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> mib_4dh93s - did you try to reinstall video drivers?
#1255 [13:50] <mib_4dh93s> what are video drivers?
#1256 [13:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> drivers for your video card
#1257 [13:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> be it onboard or separate
#1258 [13:51] <mib_4dh93s> how do I do that
#1259 [13:51] <mib_sc9whq> it worked thank you
#1260 [13:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? win/dxdiag
#1261 [13:51] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1262 [13:51] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1263 [13:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> do that first
#1264 [13:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> then i can see your card
#1265 [13:53] <mib_4dh93s> what is the irc channel
#1266 [13:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> this is the irc channel
#1267 [13:53] <mib_4dh93s> oh
#1268 [13:53] <mib_4dh93s> http://pastebin.com/JNz3Aayv
#1269 [13:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> or an irc channel, more specifically
#1270 [13:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> you're on irc
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#1272 [13:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450
#1273 [13:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> that is your video card
#1274 [13:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh, thank you
#1275 [13:54] <mib_4dh93s> i used to be able to play just fine but it stopped the other day
#1276 [13:54] <VoxelHead> \o
#1277 [13:54] <skippy2> grey get in here
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#1279 [13:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://www.official-drivers.com/installer/?seed=nvidia&v=2&gclid=CNn7waeJvK0CFYKJDgodiV_q_w
#1280 [13:55] <mib_4dh93s> ok downloading
#1281 [13:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> google fu ;)
#1282 [13:57] <mib_4dh93s> it is going to be a while my internet is laggy and slow
#1283 [13:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> no problemo :)
#1284 [13:58] <skippy2> it says i have bad video card drivers can someone help
#1285 [13:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> skippy2 - tried upgrading them?
#1286 [13:59] <skippy2> ya grey helped me a hour ago but it didnt work
#1287 [13:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> hm
#1288 [13:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> tried d'ling them from another site??
#1289 [13:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> *site?
#1290 [13:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> maybe the ones u downloaded were bad
#1291 [14:00] <skippy2> ya doyou have an idea
#1292 [14:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> use the site i just linked
#1293 [14:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> or google
#1294 [14:00] <mib_4dh93s> ok i installed it but it still doesnt work
#1295 [14:00] <skippy2> k
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#1297 [14:01] <mib_4dh93s> whereismyspoon i installed it but it still doesnt work
#1298 [14:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> yes one sec
#1299 [14:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> you had a black screen right?
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#1301 [14:02] <mib_4dh93s> yes
#1302 [14:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> did you try deleting everything from .minecraft bar your saves?
#1303 [14:02] * DopeGhoti has never heard of 'official-drivers.com', and would instead advise:
#1303 [14:02] <mib_4dh93s> yeah
#1304 [14:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> i mean everything
#1305 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> ?? gpu/nvidia
#1306 [14:02] <VoxelHead> gpu/nvidia: You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#1307 [14:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> yea that works too
#1308 [14:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> why does everyone use mibbit :S
#1309 [14:03] <mib_4dh93s> do i just type in my graphics card?
#1310 [14:06] <mib_4dh93s> ok i typed my graphics card into the page voxelhead do i just dowload it?
#1311 [14:07] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: if your system is XP 32 bit then this should be your driver: http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/38913
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#1313 [14:08] <mib_4dh93s> ok aurelius ill download it
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#1315 [14:08] <mib_4dh93s> my internet is slow so it will be a while
#1316 [14:09] <skippy2> grey i need help
#1317 [14:09] <mib_4dh93s> who is grey
#1318 [14:09] <skippy2> hi Drake
#1319 [14:10] <skippy2> i need better card drivers
#1320 [14:10] <skippy2> video card drivers
#1321 [14:10] <skippy2> someone please help me
#1322 [14:11] <skippy2> for tha sake of minecraft
#1323 [14:11] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: Is your system Windows XP 32 bit ? Grey is GreyVulpine a helper here.
#1324 [14:11] <mib_4dh93s> how do i tell
#1325 [14:11] <skippy2> i know but hes helpful
#1326 [14:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> the dxdiag
#1327 [14:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> yes its 32bit
#1328 [14:12] <skippy2> whereis myspoon help me
#1329 [14:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> you know you can tab complete names right
#1330 [14:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> like just do where<tab>
#1331 [14:12] <mib_4dh93s> WhereIsMySpoon:
#1332 [14:12] <mib_4dh93s> oh cool
#1333 [14:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> there we go
#1334 [14:12] <skippy2> WhereIsMySpoon: help me
#1335 [14:13] <skippy2> where is grey
#1336 [14:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> how
#1337 [14:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> how do i know
#1338 [14:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> i dont know him irl
#1339 [14:13] <mib_4dh93s> GreyBot: help me
#1340 [14:13] * WhereIsMySpoon highlights GreyVulpine
#1340 [14:13] <skippy2> your link didnt work
#1341 [14:14] <mib_4dh93s> what do you mean highlight
#1342 [14:14] <skippy2> WhereIsMySpoon:
#1343 [14:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> if you say someone's name it (if they have it set up) highlights them
#1344 [14:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> as in sends them a sound or flashes their irc client
#1345 [14:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> like msn flashes when you get a msg
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#1347 [14:14] <mib_4dh93s> oh ok
#1348 [14:15] <skippy2> oh
#1349 [14:15] <skippy2> WhereIsMySpoon: yor link didnt work can u help
#1350 [14:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> skippy2 - what is your actual problem?
#1351 [14:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> mc is black?
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#1353 [14:16] <skippy2> bad video card drivers
#1354 [14:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> who says that
#1355 [14:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> mc?
#1356 [14:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> your pc?
#1357 [14:16] <skippy2> pc
#1358 [14:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh get lost vox
#1359 [14:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> <_>
#1360 [14:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> where/why does your pc say that
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#1362 [14:17] <skippy2> i dont know i thought you could help with that
#1363 [14:17] <whidgle> how to you fix lagging
#1364 [14:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> whidgle - better internet or the host getting a better server
#1365 [14:17] <skippy2> better internet
#1366 [14:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> skippy2 - i have to know what is popping up this message
#1367 [14:18] <whidgle> im playing offline
#1368 [14:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> in what program ur getting it
#1369 [14:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> whidgle - then it isnt lag, its fps issues
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#1371 [14:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> there's a big difference
#1372 [14:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> try turning down render distance
#1373 [14:18] <whidgle> how to i fix that
#1374 [14:18] <skippy2> k let me send it to u
#1375 [14:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> and how much ram do you have?
#1376 [14:18] <whidgle> 4gb
#1377 [14:18] <p0dfrillaN> Hello! Can I somehow change my nickname ingame?
#1378 [14:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok 4gb is more than enough
#1379 [14:19] <whidgle> so why is it all jumpie
#1380 [14:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> p0dfrillaN - some servers will allow you to make a nickname, but you cannot change your real minecraft name unless you get a new account
#1381 [14:19] <skippy2> 2938MB available
#1382 [14:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> whidgle - press esc -> video options -> render distance
#1383 [14:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> set it to one less than you have it atm
#1384 [14:20] <whidgle> ok will do
#1385 [14:20] <mib_4dh93s> well I still dont know what to do
#1386 [14:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> mib_4dh93s - still black screen?
#1387 [14:21] <p0dfrillaN> whereismyspoon - thx for the answere so the crew cant change it, thats sad cuz i dont want my nickname x(
#1388 [14:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> i dont think so
#1389 [14:21] <whidgle> thanks much better allso how do you get a esay realistick texture pack
#1390 [14:21] * WhereIsMySpoon pokes DopeGhoti
#1390 [14:21] <mib_4dh93s> WhereIsMySpoon: yes
#1391 [14:21] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: did you download Nvidia driver from : http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/38913 ?
#1392 [14:21] <mib_4dh93s> i did but it said it was already installed
#1393 [14:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> then you should be ok
#1394 [14:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> er
#1395 [14:22] <skippy2> Bad video card drivers!
#1396 [14:22] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: to be sure please do another dxdiag
#1397 [14:22] <AureliusM> ??> mib_4dh93s win/dxdiag
#1398 [14:22] <VoxelHead> mib_4dh93s: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1399 [14:22] <VoxelHead> mib_4dh93s: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1400 [14:22] <whidgle> ?
#1401 [14:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> it isnt for you
#1402 [14:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> whidgle - go ask somewhere else for texture packs
#1403 [14:23] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: I think your last dxdiag showed driver dated 10/19/2010 ; but the latest are 2011 October, one year newer
#1404 [14:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> this is a channel for tech help
#1405 [14:24] * Morrolan pats WhereIsMySpoon on the back
#1405 [14:24] <Morrolan> Welcome to the team son blablabla
#1406 [14:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> haha
#1407 [14:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> thx (:
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#1409 [14:25] <AureliusM> WhereIsMySpoon; mib_4dh93s 's black screen might not be driver but a weird Windows problem with java. I suggest tryingthe minecraft.jar version
#1410 [14:26] <mib_4dh93s> http://pastebin.com/wXx9fLEZ
#1411 [14:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> 9/7/2011 17:33:00, 7150276 bytes
#1412 [14:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> =/
#1413 [14:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> they arent installed
#1414 [14:26] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: thanks, your driver date is 9/7/2011 from that dxdiag
#1415 [14:27] <mib_4dh93s> what about the minecraft.jar version
#1416 [14:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> AureliusM - what
#1417 [14:29] <mib_4dh93s> what do I do with the minecraft.jar
#1418 [14:29] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: goto http://www.minecraft.net/download, click on show all platforms and click on minecraft.jar (89 KB) and save it to your desktop
#1419 [14:30] <mib_4dh93s> ok i have it
#1420 [14:30] <AureliusM> WhereIsMySpoon: another user had a black screen minecraft.exe, correct drivers, but the fix was wierd: rename the .exe to .jar
#1421 [14:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> O.o
#1422 [14:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> wat
#1423 [14:31] <AureliusM> WhereIsMySpoon: I didn't understand it either.
#1424 [14:31] <mib_4dh93s> i try to open it but nothing happens
#1425 [14:31] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: Ok, click Start and type cmd and hit the Enter key
#1426 [14:32] <mib_4dh93s> ok
#1427 [14:32] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: A large black command window should appear, type dir and look for Desktop
#1428 [14:32] <mib_4dh93s> ok i see it
#1429 [14:32] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: type cd desktop and then hit Enter
#1430 [14:33] <mib_4dh93s> ok but it didnt do anything
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#1432 [14:33] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: type dir and look for the file minecraft.jar
#1433 [14:33] <mib_4dh93s> ok i see it
#1434 [14:33] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: wait, cd desktop did nothing? Did you hit the Enter key afterwards?
#1435 [14:34] <mib_4dh93s> wait it changed the line thing, it says desktop now
#1436 [14:34] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: ok, so you are in Desktop now? And you can see minecraft.jar in the list of files?
#1437 [14:34] <mib_4dh93s> yeah i see minecraft.jar
#1438 [14:35] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: ok, now you need to type this long line to launch this minecraft: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1439 [14:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> best to copy it in
#1440 [14:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> just select all that text after the colon
#1441 [14:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> copy
#1442 [14:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> paste into the cmd prompt
#1443 [14:35] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: yep, copy and paste it as WhereIsMySpoon advises.
#1444 [14:36] <mib_4dh93s> ok i did do i hit enter now
#1445 [14:36] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: yes
#1446 [14:36] <mib_4dh93s> ok minecraft came up
#1447 [14:36] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: and shift the minecraft window away from the black window so you can see both
#1448 [14:36] <mib_4dh93s> ok i did
#1449 [14:36] <mib_4dh93s> rdgkekrkgtaejr
#1450 [14:36] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: login to minecraft as normal and see what happens
#1451 [14:37] <mib_4dh93s> it black screened again
#1452 [14:37] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: what shows on the black window
#1453 [14:37] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: after the lomg "java" line is there anything there? Any error?
#1454 [14:38] <mib_4dh93s> something like file not found lastlogin error
#1455 [14:38] <mib_4dh93s> thats it
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#1457 [14:38] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: After that line? That not found error is normal the first time.
#1458 [14:39] <mib_4dh93s> nothing
#1459 [14:39] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: is minecraft still running then?
#1460 [14:39] <mib_4dh93s> yeah but its just black
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#1462 [14:40] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: ok, open Task Manager by clicking Start and typing taskmgr and hitting Enter
#1463 [14:40] <mib_4dh93s> i think it might be a java error because it happened when i tried to update java
#1464 [14:41] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: A small window titled Task Manager should appear. click on the processes tab of that window and look for java
#1465 [14:41] <mib_4dh93s> i see it it says 50%
#1466 [14:42] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: Ok, that means java is in a busy loop and has not crashed.
#1467 [14:42] <mib_4dh93s> should i try reinstalling java
#1468 [14:42] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: Close down minecraft ny clicking the x in the rop right corner
#1469 [14:42] <mib_4dh93s> ok it closed
#1470 [14:43] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: Maybe, but first return to the black window and type java -version and hit Enter
#1471 [14:43] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: It should report something like java version "1.6.0_30", or 26 or 29, doesn't matter much which
#1472 [14:44] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: To check what Java runtime is installed do this: click Start / Control Panel / click Java icon that looks like a coffee cup
#1473 [14:44] <mib_4dh93s> it says java version "1.5.0_13"
#1474 [14:44] <mib_4dh93s> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_13-b05-237)
#1475 [14:44] <mib_4dh93s> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_13-119, mixed mode, sharing)
#1476 [14:45] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: Ah, that Java is probably too old
#1477 [14:45] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: uninstall java using the Control Panel, as described here: http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp
#1478 [14:46] <mib_4dh93s> ok
#1479 [14:47] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: is java uuninstalled, check with Start / Control Panel and you should see no Java icon
#1480 [14:47] <mib_4dh93s> there are like 10 javas, should I remove all of them
#1481 [14:47] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: Ah, yes, remove them all
#1482 [14:47] <mib_4dh93s> ok
#1483 [14:47] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: after removing them all, double check with Start Control Panel, and ensure *no* Java is there
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#1485 [14:48] <AureliusM> ??> mib_4dh93s getjava
#1486 [14:49] <VoxelHead> mib_4dh93s: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#1487 [14:49] <zucchini> I am trying to purchase minecraft with my paypal account but my transaction keeps getting cancelled, why does this happen?
#1488 [14:49] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: Now, follow VoxelHead's link to download Java, you should select Java 6 for 32 bit operating systems
#1489 [14:50] <mib_4dh93s> ok i get an error when i uninstall one of them it says error 1722
#1490 [14:50] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: Oh? have you any browser window open that is using Java right now?
#1491 [14:50] <mib_4dh93s> hang on ill close them and try again brb
#1492 [14:51] <zkxs> Did aubot die again?
#1493 [14:52] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: sun.com says that error 1722 is due to a faulty installer. Try to uninstall that Java from Control Panel again.
#1494 [14:52] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: You may need to close all browsers before uninstalling that Java. Can you find your way back here later?
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#1496 [14:52] <mib_h8der3> ok it still says error 1722
#1497 [14:53] <zkxs> ...wug?
#1498 [14:53] <mib_h8der3> ... shit
#1499 [14:53] <mib_h8der3> I lose
#1500 [14:53] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: Oh, please close the black command window too, I forgot about that
#1501 [14:54] <zkxs> lol
#1502 [14:54] <mib_h8der3> Kealper: you win $5
#1503 [14:54] <mib_h8der3> AureliusM: you performed admirably
#1504 [14:55] <AureliusM> mib_h8der3: aka Wug: Eh? I'm fumbling in the dark here
#1505 [14:55] <Wug> yeah I dont actually need help
#1506 [14:55] <Wug> but I bet kealper $5 that I could get someone to teamviewer me
#1507 [14:55] <Wug> I WAS SO CLOSE TOO
#1508 [14:55] <WhereIsMySpoon|Away> zkxs - aubot is not behaving atm so has been turned off
#1509 [14:56] <Wug> if a java uninstall goes wrong teamviewer is the only sane option
#1510 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> hmm
#1511 [14:56] <Wug> Im not even on windows xp lol
#1512 [14:56] <Wug> Im on loonicks and was googling for dxdiag reports and java -version outputs
#1513 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> I can teamviewer, if somebody tells me what to do
#1514 [14:56] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: ah teamviewer I know nothing about. With java I was going to suggest all browsers and apps close and retry uninstall, then a tedious reboot and retry
#1515 [14:57] <Wug> AureliusM: mib_4dh93s isnt real
#1516 [14:57] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: I see.
#1517 [14:58] <Wug> generally if you get errors during a java uninstall it means something is very very wrong and usually you have to get an expert to remove it for you
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#1519 [14:58] <Dobstopping> Please help me
#1520 [14:58] <tyteen4a03> ?? ask
#1521 [14:58] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1522 [14:58] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1523 [14:58] <Dobstopping> Ok heres waht it is
#1524 [14:58] <Dobstopping> what*
#1525 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Wug! Bring back Wugbot!
#1526 [14:59] <AureliusM> mib_4dh93s: I see. java.com has a procedure for trying to resolve 1722 here: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/error_1722.xml
#1527 [14:59] <WhereIsMySpoon|Away> wug why did you change names
#1528 [14:59] <Wug> WhereIsMySpoon|Away: I'm an op here and was doing a spot of trolling/testing
#1529 [14:59] <Wug> you passed
#1530 [15:00] <Wug> GreyVulpine: I cant, as you may have noticed, im internationally traveling
#1531 [15:00] * zkxs wonders if he was ever tested
#1531 [15:00] * Wug points to .ca
#1531 [15:00] * GreyVulpine stabs Wug
#1531 [15:00] * WhereIsMySpoon|Away stabs everyone
#1531 [15:00] <Wug> zkxs: you passed by noticing that I was wug and not a miblet
#1532 [15:00] <zkxs> :D
#1533 [15:00] <Dobstopping> Minecraft opens on my computer and I can logon then i can choose either single player or multiplayer but whenever I choose the world that I want to play on then the game crashes as soon as the world is done loading.
#1534 [15:00] <Wug> GreyVulpine: I'll restart it on the 8th when I get back to school
#1535 [15:00] <Wug> the box crashed for some reason
#1536 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopping - You've been told before, it's your video card, it's a crap Unichrome S3
#1537 [15:01] <zucchini> so can anyone help me as to why i cant buy minecraft using paypal, please
#1538 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Dobstopping - There's nothing we can do about it for you, unless you upgrade, or find a different computer to play minecraft on
#1539 [15:01] <Wug> :payment/stopped
#1540 [15:01] <Wug> *crickets chirp*
#1541 [15:01] <Wug> DAMMIT
#1542 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> zucchini - That's something you'll need to take up with Paypal. They have a support page
#1543 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> zucchini - We have no control over Paypal here.
#1544 [15:01] <Dobstopping> yeah I know but the problem with that is that since I have a Compaq it was built with only one type of graphics card
#1545 [15:01] <AureliusM> Wug: well, I would have passed the buck before trying teamviewer, I have no experience with remote access.
#1546 [15:02] <Dobstopping> The frame was built a certain way so that all i can do is fit a certain type of graphics card in
#1547 [15:02] <zucchini> man ive been there for like an hour almost they support center sucks , they should have something like this
#1548 [15:02] <Wug> AureliusM: thats fine. I was hoping GreyVulpine would do it. timing was perfect, he popped up right as I got to the teamviewer point
#1549 [15:03] <Wug> lol now GreyVulpine is not going to trust any .ca miblets
#1550 [15:03] <zucchini> i guess ill just keep trying with them thanks any way
#1551 [15:03] <Dobstopping> yeah I know but the problem with that is that since I have a Compaq it was built with only one type of graphics card
#1552 [15:03] <Wug> Dobstopping: you have been given your options
#1553 [15:03] <Dobstopping> and only one type of Graphics card has been built for it thought
#1554 [15:03] <Wug> the graphics card is not fit to run minecraft, your only options are to upgrade that computer or to find a better one
#1555 [15:04] <Wug> then find a better one is your only option
#1556 [15:04] <Dobstopping> Dang it
#1557 [15:04] <Dobstopping> thanks
#1558 [15:04] <Wug> sorry but thats how it is
#1559 [15:04] <Dobstopping> yeah i know
#1560 [15:04] <Dobstopping> i hate Compaq
#1561 [15:04] <Dobstopping> it sucks
#1562 [15:05] <tyteen4a03> Compaq is ok, it's just time
#1563 [15:06] <Dobstopping> yeah lol
#1564 [15:06] <Dobstopping> mine is a presario sr1124nx
#1565 [15:08] <Wug> ok well ive had my fun for today
#1566 [15:08] <zkxs> Wug, why didn't you actually use mibbit?
#1567 [15:09] <Wug> zkxs: because i was hoping someone would teamviewer in and say "thats not mibbit. furthermore, that minecraft wors just fine. furthermore, thats not windows xp"
#1568 [15:09] <zkxs> ~Mibbit@modemcable117.53-80-70.mc.videotron.ca the ~Mibbit should have tipped me off
#1569 [15:10] <tyteen4a03> [03:52] * mib_h8der3 (~wug@modemcable117.53-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #minecrafthelp
#1570 [15:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> wait what
#1571 [15:10] <Wug> "DID I TEAMVIEWER THE WRONG MIBLET" *head aplod*
#1572 [15:10] <tyteen4a03> the hostname already tells things off
#1573 [15:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> it is xp
#1574 [15:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> it says so
#1575 [15:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_qfe.111025-1623)
#1576 [15:10] <Wug> WhereIsMySpoon: lol I'm on ubuntu
#1577 [15:10] <Wug> I found a dxdiag report on google
#1578 [15:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> <_________>
#1579 [15:10] * GreyVulpine stabs Wug
#1579 [15:10] <Wug> and I changed the dates on the driver install and everything
#1580 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, you would
#1581 [15:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh get out of here vox
#1582 [15:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> ugh
#1583 [15:11] <Wug> what should have really tipped you off is that the first dxdiag report I posted was generated almost a week ago
#1584 [15:11] <tyteen4a03> WhereIsMySpoon: the +q wouldn't affect you anyway :P
#1585 [15:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh?
#1586 [15:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> i see
#1587 [15:11] <tyteen4a03> you are voiced
#1588 [15:11] <zkxs> I didn't get here until right before you left and rejoined.
#1589 [15:12] <Wug> yeah I noticed that
#1590 [15:12] <Dobstopping> is my computer xp?
#1591 [15:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> Wug - only if we thought you might have been an imposter
#1592 [15:12] <Wug> i set up a server profile in xchat that mirrors mibbits settings
#1593 [15:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> which we didnt
#1594 [15:12] <Wug> I just forgot that it doesnt apply if I use /server
#1595 [15:12] <Wug> which is how I reconnected
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#1597 [15:13] <Dobstopping> HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1598 [15:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> how did you know it was wug, zkxs
#1599 [15:13] <tyteen4a03> [03:52] * mib_h8der3 (~wug@modemcable117.53-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #minecrafthelp
#1600 [15:13] <tyteen4a03> ^ hostname
#1601 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> WhereIsMySpoon -Check hostmask
#1602 [15:13] <zkxs> Wug, You need an ident server to make it perfect. I run OIdentD
#1603 [15:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh
#1604 [15:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> i see
#1605 [15:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> xD
#1606 [15:13] <Wug> i could have done that but decided it would be too much work
#1607 [15:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> nice :)
#1608 [15:14] <Wug> well I owe kealper $5 because I didnt get into teamviewer
#1609 [15:14] <zkxs> Nice thing about oidentd, is it allows ident spoofing if it is configured correctly
#1610 [15:15] <CrusaderDeleters> Nice thing about teamviewer, you can stop people from changing your files :P
#1611 [15:15] <Dobstopping> hello can you guys help me figure this out
#1612 [15:15] <CrusaderDeleters> just ask.
#1613 [15:15] <Wug> i would have let them in and brought up xchat, working minecraft, and my wallpaper
#1614 [15:15] <Wug> which I changed just for the occasion :3
#1615 [15:15] <Dobstopping> ok well i already know what is wrong but idk how to fix it
#1616 [15:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??> CrusaderDeleters ask
#1617 [15:15] <VoxelHead> CrusaderDeleters: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1618 [15:15] <VoxelHead> CrusaderDeleters: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1619 [15:15] <tyteen4a03> Dobstopping: The solution is to get a new laptop
#1620 [15:16] <zkxs> Wug: Does it say PWNED! ?
#1621 [15:16] <Wug> WhereIsMySpoon: derp
#1622 [15:16] <Dobstopping> i know that
#1623 [15:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> wait woops
#1624 [15:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol
#1625 [15:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> derp
#1626 [15:16] <CrusaderDeleters> yeah, derp bro XP
#1627 [15:16] <Dobstopping> but i want to figure out how to change my graphics card
#1628 [15:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> I WAS TESTING YOU
#1629 [15:16] <tyteen4a03> Dobstopping: It's hard on a laptop
#1630 [15:16] <Wug> zkxs: it says "You're being trolled by Wug. if you're reading this over teamviewer, Kealper owes me $5"
#1631 [15:16] <CrusaderDeleters> it is.
#1632 [15:16] <Dobstopping> it isnt a lap top though lol
#1633 [15:16] <zkxs> lol
#1634 [15:16] <Dobstopping> its a desktop
#1635 [15:16] <CrusaderDeleters> it's like assembling a 3-d puzzle with many loops and turns
#1636 [15:17] <Dobstopping> ;)
#1637 [15:17] <tyteen4a03> Dobstopping: oh, when I hear brands I assume it's a laptop :P
#1638 [15:17] <Dobstopping> nah
#1639 [15:17] <CrusaderDeleters> and there's that one piece that you must use a very tiny instrument to place it in.
#1640 [15:17] <Dobstopping> Ok great
#1641 [15:17] <CrusaderDeleters> I wish I had my Nvidia Geforce GTX 7800 back. :(
#1642 [15:17] <Wug> I should start a bouncer on aquinas so i dont miss anymore logs
#1643 [15:17] <tyteen4a03> Dobstopping: You can ask your local computer store to help you select a display card
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#1645 [15:17] <Dobstopping> can you tell me if i am able to change the graphics card in my computer?
#1646 [15:17] * Wug sqozzs TrueWolves
#1646 [15:18] <CrusaderDeleters> idk. Can you? :P
#1647 [15:18] <Wug> you missed my epic troll
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#1650 [15:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> u so witty mr man
#1651 [15:18] <Dobstopping> idk thats your job to tell me
#1652 [15:18] <Wug> goddamnit truewolvses
#1653 [15:18] <tyteen4a03> Dobstopping: You can, but it would take much effort to people who doesn't know much about computer hardware
#1654 [15:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> job?
#1655 [15:18] <Wug> Drake: are you the real one
#1656 [15:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> if he says yes or no are you going to believe him Wug
#1657 [15:19] <CrusaderDeleters> WEll, It aint a job. It's more slave labour XD
#1658 [15:19] <MineCraftHelp> so i died while filling up a map... is there any way to go to the death point within five minutes, maybe with an external program?
#1659 [15:19] <CrusaderDeleters> loljk. I aint being forced to do this.
#1660 [15:19] <Wug> WhereIsMySpoon: hes the same person, connected twice, one of them is probably an accident
#1661 [15:19] <CrusaderDeleters> nope.
#1662 [15:19] <MineCraftHelp> ^to me?
#1663 [15:19] <tyteen4a03> Dobstopping: If you can get a computer friend to help you, tell him that you need a new display card, else you can go to a local computer store and ask about new display cards
#1664 [15:19] <tyteen4a03> ??> MineCraftHelp only/you
#1665 [15:19] <CrusaderDeleters> depends where you dood is, though
#1666 [15:19] <VoxelHead> MineCraftHelp: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#1667 [15:19] <VoxelHead> MineCraftHelp: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#1668 [15:20] <Wug> GreyVulpine: you should idle in ##wugbot
#1669 [15:20] <Omega_Guardian> anything you dropped will be frozen until you get within some range of it
#1670 [15:20] <CrusaderDeleters> tyteen: he was responding to me
#1671 [15:20] <CrusaderDeleters> tyteen: he was responding to me
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#1673 [15:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> nice job
#1674 [15:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> <_>
#1675 [15:20] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#1676 [15:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> read before macro next time :)
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#1678 [15:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Omega: On server and client, Every item that isn't in a loaded chunk will be preserved.
#1679 [15:22] <Guest29542> i died and lost my stuff- can i get it back? i dont know where i was
#1680 [15:22] <zkxs> Guest29542: If you can get there in five minutes.
#1681 [15:22] <Wug> Guest29542: if you can find your stuff you can get it back
#1682 [15:22] <CrusaderDeleters> The 5-minute timer includes the time from when you died to respawning, and how long you look for it while it's loaded.
#1683 [15:22] <CrusaderDeleters> ugh, brb guys. Gotta reboot.
#1684 [15:23] <Guest29542> Wug: i know that, but it is completely out of my reach. are there any external programs or any other way to get it?
#1685 [15:23] <zkxs> Guest29542: InvEdit lets you spawn items in you inventory
#1686 [15:23] <Wug> there are programs you can use to move yourself but you would still need to know where your stuff was
#1687 [15:23] <Omega_Guardian> should be able to dig down/build up assuming you know the coords
#1688 [15:23] <Guest29542> Wug: ok thanks
#1689 [15:24] <Wug> Guest29542: in future, f3 shows current coordinates
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#1691 [15:24] <Guest29542> Wug: yeah, but a creeper just stuck up on me and i couldnt check
#1692 [15:24] <Guest29542> snuck*
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#1694 [15:24] <Wug> Guest29542: have you absolutely no idea where you were?
#1695 [15:25] <Guest29542> well i thought i was one place but i was wrong. also i couldnt find it using mcedit...
#1696 [15:25] <Guest29542> thanks anyways
#1697 [15:26] <Wug> mcedit doesnt show items as items, they show up as little red blobs
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#1699 [15:31] <mib_nypr> i just tried to buy the full version of minecraft but this error message appeared :"Your purchase was for some reason denied to be processed. (Reference: 4a540180-89b3-4a3b-99e8-92d8e7085335)"
#1700 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> That's something you'll need to contact the payment processor for, or your bank/financial institution
#1701 [15:32] <iPixeli> ^ this
#1702 [15:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> mib_nypr - sure you have money for it?
#1703 [15:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> otherwise, what grey said
#1704 [15:33] <mib_nypr> yeah i have the money
#1705 [15:34] <mib_nypr> guess ill just keep tryin
#1706 [15:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> dont do it more than once again
#1707 [15:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> otherwise you might pay lots
#1708 [15:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh
#1709 [15:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> he left
#1710 [15:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> =/
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#1713 [15:48] <mib_ivy6xv> my game said it wasnt responding and i cant do anything
#1714 [15:50] <len> ok my game said it wasnt responding and now im stuck in not responding mode
#1715 [15:51] <len> and now i cant do anything
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#1720 [16:05] <clevoadam> hello,
#1721 [16:06] <clevoadam> Hello. I'm not sure if my security settings are messing up minecraft, but it used to work, and now when it goes through loading after login screen, once it loads, it just disappears and the program doesn't run.
#1722 [16:08] <clevoadam> hello?
#1723 [16:08] <AureliusM> clevoadam: what changed since minecraft worked for you? Have you clicked options then force update?
#1724 [16:09] <clevoadam> i installed microsoft security, spybot, and malwarebytes and cleaned up my computer.. that's it.. I can't seem to find any security program issues.. but i could be missing something
#1725 [16:10] <clevoadam> ya log in, then it runs the bar to green, and right when the game should launch, it just disappears and i'm left sad
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#1727 [16:11] <AureliusM> clevoadam: do any of those security programs log what actions they take? Is there an allow-list for microsift security for example?
#1728 [16:12] <AureliusM> clevoadam: Also, look for a file named "hs_err_pid" wherever you launch Minecraft.
#1729 [16:12] <clevoadam> ok. i'm checking
#1730 [16:16] <clevoadam> i don't see anything.. when i try to run in browser it gives me the error Java.io.FIleNotFoundException: C:\Users\Adam\AppData\LocalLow\Sun\Java\Deployment\security\trusted.certs (Access is denied)
#1731 [16:18] <AureliusM> clevoadam: Ok, did you install Java 6 ?
#1732 [16:19] <clevoadam> hmm.. i'll check!
#1733 [16:19] <AureliusM> clevoadam: But I would first uninstall all Java runtimes - see Java\Deployment\security\trusted.certs - and then install again from sun.com
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#1735 [16:20] <mib_1tp50m> sgnfnetgnhdegyhndeeddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddbhbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
#1736 [16:20] <clarjon1> heh.
#1737 [16:21] <clevoadam> ok, yeah, i have java 6
#1738 [16:21] <clarjon1> clevoadam: did you install it with user Adam?
#1739 [16:21] <AureliusM> clevoadam: Windows? Click Start / Control Panel / click the Java icon and click teh Java tab and click teh View button
#1740 [16:23] <clevoadam> yeah, windows. trying!
#1741 [16:24] <clevoadam> i'm viewing properties
#1742 [16:28] <AureliusM> clevoadam: oops I typoed back then; I meant see http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp
#1743 [16:29] <clevoadam> thanks! I'll try and see, I gotta run kid to soccer game.. thanks so much!
#1744 [16:32] <m0nk> how come i keep getting connection closed end of stream all the time?
#1745 [16:32] <m0nk> it worked for the first few days fine but then after like 4 days ago it started end of stream
#1746 [16:33] <AureliusM> m0nk: internet poor between client and server? Are you connecting to a server on same machine?
#1747 [16:35] <m0nk> i have a client and am connecting to a server wich a friend of mine have
#1748 [16:35] <AureliusM> m0nk: I used to get it a lot with older versions and when server was CPU starved
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#1750 [16:35] <AureliusM> m0nk: What appears in your friend' server console? overloading warnings?
#1751 [16:36] <m0nk> nothing it works for my friend and everyone else but not me
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#1753 [16:37] <m0nk> end of stream for me in the server
#1754 [16:38] <AureliusM> m0nk: your client reports end of stream, and friend's server just shows disconnected?
#1755 [16:38] <m0nk> yes
#1756 [16:38] <AureliusM> m0nk: I'm trying my own client and server now to try to reproduce this ...
#1757 [16:39] <m0nk> or is 150 ms too much?
#1758 [16:39] <m0nk> does that create the dc's?`
#1759 [16:39] <clarjon1> 150ms ping time aint bad.
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#1761 [16:40] <badvideocard> hey
#1762 [16:40] <clarjon1> badvideocard: Lemme guess.
#1763 [16:40] <badvideocard> i have a bad video card
#1764 [16:40] <badvideocard> :P
#1765 [16:40] <m0nk> lol
#1766 [16:40] <clarjon1> badvideocard: Really? I was gonna guess sound ;)
#1767 [16:40] <badvideocard> so where do i find the file??
#1768 [16:40] <clarjon1> badvideocard: we dont know
#1769 [16:40] <clarjon1> badvideocard: It's your hardware, and you've not told us anything about it
#1770 [16:41] <clarjon1> We can't see your computer from this side of the screen :)
#1771 [16:41] <badvideocard> well give me the steps to do that
#1772 [16:41] <clarjon1> ??<index
#1773 [16:41] <badvideocard> the bot
#1774 [16:41] <clarjon1> ??< index
#1775 [16:41] <clarjon1> ??> badvideocard win/dxdiag
#1776 [16:41] <VoxelHead> badvideocard: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1777 [16:41] <VoxelHead> badvideocard: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1778 [16:42] <AureliusM> m0nk: can you connect to other servers Ok?
#1779 [16:43] <badvideocard> http://pastebin.com/EzeG5kYk
#1780 [16:43] <badvideocard> there ya go
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#1782 [16:43] <m0nk> not tried
#1783 [16:44] <AureliusM> m0nk I have sent you a private chat with the URL of my test server to try
#1784 [16:45] <m0nk> im in it
#1785 [16:45] <m0nk> laggy as fuck:P
#1786 [16:45] <AureliusM> m0nk: Yep, it's laggy, I see no error so far
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#1788 [16:46] <badvideocard> http://pastebin.com/EzeG5kYk
#1789 [16:48] <zkxs> ??< fubar
#1790 [16:49] <zkxs> ??< fubar/hamachi
#1791 [16:52] <AureliusM> m0nk: well I tried to run that server with a loaded PC to get it to lag...
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#1794 [16:55] <mib_vlosew> I bought one of my sons and account about a year ago, now my other son is wanting an account and when I try to pay for it, it came up and told me to send in a copy of my passport. What is up with that? Then it tells me the account is locked.
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#1797 [17:02] <dr_bibble> hey
#1798 [17:03] <mbange123> I am trying to buy an account for my son. First it came up and asked for me to send in a copy of my passport, why would you need that? Then it told me that the account was locked, please help.
#1799 [17:03] <dr_bibble> http://pastebin.com/EzeG5kYk
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#1801 [17:03] <dr_bibble> i have a bad video card
#1802 [17:03] <dr_bibble> drivers
#1803 [17:03] <dr_bibble> im windows 7
#1804 [17:04] <mbange123> What
#1805 [17:04] <dr_bibble> minecraft.net.
#1806 [17:05] <dr_bibble> http://pastebin.com/EzeG5kYk
#1807 [17:05] <dr_bibble> can you help me with my bad video card drivers
#1808 [17:05] <inept> I can login to the site but cannot run the game.
#1809 [17:05] <mbange123> I am looking for help my self.
#1810 [17:06] <mbange123> Don't they have a customer support department
#1811 [17:06] <dr_bibble> they do its vortexhead
#1812 [17:06] <inept> not that i can find.
#1813 [17:06] <dr_bibble> lol
#1814 [17:06] <AureliusM> mbange123: sounds like a scam to me. Are you going to minecraft.net ?
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#1816 [17:06] <dr_bibble> voxelhead\\\
#1817 [17:06] <dr_bibble> oops
#1818 [17:07] <mbange123> yes, my son was logged in he uses the name from his spanish class
#1819 [17:07] <inept> I better check that for sure before i get more critical.
#1820 [17:07] <AureliusM> mbange123: I've bought an account and gift cards and had no need for passports. Just credit card.
#1821 [17:08] <mbange123> I did not have a problem with my other sons account, just this one.
#1822 [17:09] <mbange123> do you think it could be because he used Jefe as his name instead of Jeff
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#1825 [17:09] <AureliusM> mbange123: is it the payment processor telling you about the passport?
#1826 [17:10] <mbange123> yes
#1827 [17:11] <AureliusM> mbange123: Ah, I just read your message about the name. I'm not sure, I know payment processors will check name and address of the card matches the details of the account, but no idea what they'll ask for now.
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#1829 [17:12] <mbange123> of so if the name on the card is mine but his name is on the account they will not accept payment
#1830 [17:12] <AureliusM> mbange123: Also, we here at minecrafthelp have no way to handle these queries, you really need to talk to the payment processor.
#1831 [17:13] <dr_bibble> can i have help with my bad video card drivers?
#1832 [17:13] <mbange123> ok thanks
#1833 [17:13] <AureliusM> mbange123: I spoke up because I was concerned there might have been a scam.
#1834 [17:13] <mbange123> could i just buy a gift code and give to him for his account?
#1835 [17:14] <Zeenek> yo i got a question. I took one of my old minecraft world files from my now dead computer at my dads as a back up just in case. and i now have minecraft on my computer at my moms but i don't know how to get that world to be played on this computer can anyone help me i'm stumped
#1836 [17:14] <AureliusM> mbange123: I would say yes, but I would like to check what exact problem the processor had.
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#1838 [17:15] <mbange123> Thanks
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#1840 [17:16] <AureliusM> Zeenek: the world files under the /saves/ folder ? You would copy the whole /saves/ subfolder onto a USB stick, say, and then copy it to the new .minecraft/saves/ folder
#1841 [17:17] <AureliusM> Zeenek: nut how old is old? Not the classic .mine format files?
#1842 [17:17] <skippydippy> How do you install Modloaders? I know how to put it in the .minecraft file etc but it always says in game modloader is off :/
#1843 [17:17] <AureliusM> Zeenek: typo: but how old is old? Not the classic .mine format files?
#1844 [17:17] <AureliusM> ??> skippydippy mods
#1845 [17:17] <skippydippy> Its the latest minecraft 1.0.0
#1846 [17:17] <VoxelHead> skippydippy: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
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#1848 [17:17] <VoxelHead> skippydippy: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
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#1850 [17:17] <Zeenek> it was a 1.6.6
#1851 [17:18] <skippydippy> RIght, thanks
#1852 [17:19] <AureliusM> Zeenek: that would copy fine, I do this myself, even back from 1.3 versions. I suggest using 7Zip or WinRAR to do the copy - zip the old workd into a zip file, and move it to a stick, then unzip it a t the other end
#1853 [17:19] <dr_bibble> http://pastebin.com/EzeG5kYk
#1854 [17:19] <dr_bibble> voxel can you look at that
#1855 [17:19] <dr_bibble> bad video card drivers
#1856 [17:19] <dr_bibble> windows 7
#1857 [17:19] <Zeenek> Thanks :)
#1858 [17:20] <dr_bibble> ??
#1859 [17:21] <bonoboy> I cannot get the mouse to pick up or move blocks. Will scroll over the screen but that's it. Any suggestions? thx (Mac user/Safari)
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#1861 [17:21] <AureliusM> dr_bibble: RADEON X800 GTO - and drivers dated 2009? So you need to update from AMD, wait a minute
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#1863 [17:21] <Atol> Hello
#1864 [17:21] <AureliusM> ??> dr_bibble gpu/amd
#1865 [17:21] <VoxelHead> dr_bibble: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#1866 [17:21] <dr_bibble> thank you
#1867 [17:22] <Atol> Anyone able to setup a home base mine craft server
#1868 [17:22] <Atol> so you can play between computers
#1869 [17:24] <Atol> I already viewed videos and how to on wiki. Setup just like they have. Everything from my router config to the firewall disable
#1870 [17:25] <Atol> while running minecraft
#1871 [17:25] <AureliusM> bonoboy: Not a mac user, I'm searching the Voxel's database for help
#1872 [17:25] <AureliusM> Atol: I have setup a test server, only tricky bit was port forwarding on the router
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#1874 [17:26] <Atol> Yes that the part I am having the Port forward issue
#1875 [17:26] <bonoboy> Thanks-have searched on line, changed control settings, no luck
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#1877 [17:27] <zkxs> ;check 99.30.61.191
#1878 [17:28] <zkxs> oh yeah...
#1879 [17:28] <Atol> Checking on http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/ It showing Port 25565 is closed on 99.30.61.191
#1880 [17:28] <AureliusM> bonoboy: Only problem I can find in Voxel is with Synergy
#1881 [17:29] <AureliusM> Atol: make sure that IP address is your external address, and then you need to set your router to map port 25565; I guess you've looked at portforward.com ?
#1882 [17:29] <Atol> Router is a My routher is N600 DB Wireless Dual-Band N+
#1883 [17:30] <Atol> Ya and also ask Scott Mueller from http://forum.scottmueller.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2332 who written about 30+ books on computers
#1884 [17:30] <Atol> Ya
#1885 [17:31] <AureliusM> Atol: When I did it I used ipconfig to get my default gateway IP addresss and then browsed to that IP which is where my Thomson-Alcatel router was, and then had to dive into game and application sharing
#1886 [17:31] <bonoboy> AureliusM: Such a noob-not sure what that means. Thinking I got a bad download
#1887 [17:32] <Atol> Ya AureliusM I use the old dos comand ipconfig
#1888 [17:32] <Atol> I also tried on 2 differnt computers
#1889 [17:32] <Atol> different computers
#1890 [17:34] <AureliusM> Atol: I've setup server for other games as well, different router, I forget which. I setup a homeftp.net account to have a static URL, rather than a dynamic numeric IP.
#1891 [17:35] <Atol> Do they charge much
#1892 [17:35] <AureliusM> Atol: they charge ... nothing. But you lose it if you don't use it every 3 months or so.
#1893 [17:36] <VoxelHead> AureliusM: I have a problem with Synergy? What?
#1894 [17:36] <Atol> is there a way you can try for free for a bit and make sure it works
#1895 [17:36] <AureliusM> Voxelhead: I meant the only mention of mouse problems in the http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ that I could find was Synergy
#1896 [17:38] <zkxs> Mouse problems typically mean some type of security software is interfering with minecraft's mouse trapping
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#1898 [17:38] <DopeGhoti> zkxs: more likely, the mouse^Wtouchpad driver's "Ignore the input if I'm typing" setting.
#1899 [17:39] <zkxs> laptops do that? That seems like a terrible idea...
#1900 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> Generally not, with larger touchpads people are likely to rest their wrists on as they type
#1901 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> but for games, it's decidedly unhelpful
#1902 [17:40] <Atol> A trick I do with a laptop I tend to use external mouse when Playing a game
#1903 [17:40] <AureliusM> Atol: You mean homeftp.net? They are free. For the basic url to IP address mapping.
#1904 [17:40] <Atol> So I disable the touch pad
#1905 [17:40] <Atol> How is that setup AureliusM
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#1907 [17:42] <AureliusM> Atol: I'm looking now, it's over a year since I set it up with dyn.com
#1908 [17:42] <Atol> ty
#1909 [17:43] <AureliusM> Atol: Hmm, they've changed, can't find the free service anymore, but I'm still using it ok!
#1910 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> AureliusM: gimme a sec; I still use dyndns.org for some of my purposes
#1911 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> Looks like I got grandfathered in though. Huh.
#1912 [17:46] <AureliusM> Atol: I better not let my free dyndns account expire, seems it's only pay for it now! But look for free dynamic dns, eg, no-ip.com
#1913 [17:47] <Atol> well crap lol
#1914 [17:47] <AureliusM> Yeah, I also use dyndns for occassional ftp server work.
#1915 [17:47] <Atol> wonder if there a peer to peer way to get it worki8ng
#1916 [17:49] <zkxs> Atol: a domain name won't fix your server, you need to do port forwarding
#1917 [17:49] <AureliusM> Atol: not sure I understand - peer to peer DNS? Or connecting minecraft servers to players via peer to peer? Some server would need to hold the server addresses I guess.
#1918 [17:50] <Atol> Meaning Connecting two computers directly and play that way
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#1920 [17:50] <AureliusM> Atol: Ah, to avoid port forwarding. You just have to do that. Alternative is to use some software that I would not trust.
#1921 [17:50] <dr_bibble> hey my video card drivers are still bad it says
#1922 [17:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> AureliusM - such as hamachi? :P
#1923 [17:52] <Atol> Dr Bibble what your computer specs?
#1924 [17:52] <Atol> what issue you are having
#1925 [17:52] <AureliusM> Hamachi sounds dodgy to me. I like to be in charge of my ports and traffic
#1926 [17:53] * AureliusM just checked his router settings again just in case...
#1926 [17:53] <dr_bibble> my video card drivers are bad
#1927 [17:53] <dr_bibble> it wont update
#1928 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> We have a rule here, for the convenience of our helpers. We don't support servers run on hamachi.
#1929 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Adds a needless level of complexity, and has been known to cause problems by itself
#1930 [17:53] <dr_bibble> http://pastebin.com/EzeG5kYk
#1931 [17:53] <dr_bibble> there is a amd
#1932 [17:54] <Atol> had the same issue with my computer Bibble. With Battlefeild 3
#1933 [17:54] <Atol> Alienware M17x r2 with dual ati 5870s
#1934 [17:54] <Atol> Had to reinstall windows
#1935 [17:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> AureliusM - and your files?
#1936 [17:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> And your computer?
#1937 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> WhereIsMySpoon: nah, just ports and traffic
#1938 [17:55] <dr_bibble> well it worked last time and i just updated my drivers
#1939 [17:55] <dr_bibble> i had to set my computer to factory standards because my hard drive was fucked
#1940 [17:55] <Atol> Have you tried CCleaner to uninstall your grapics drivers and install the new ones?
#1941 [17:55] <dr_bibble> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#1942 [17:56] <dr_bibble> voxel said go there
#1943 [17:56] <dr_bibble> but i dont know which one
#1944 [17:56] <Atol> you dont know your computer spec?
#1945 [17:56] <dr_bibble> no
#1946 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> see where it says "Automatically Detect and Install"? And below that where it says "Download Now"?
#1947 [17:56] <Atol> is it a laptop or desktop
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#1949 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> Try that.
#1950 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> OR, even further below, you can click where it says "How to identify your graphics card"
#1951 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> Rocket surgery, this ain't.
#1952 [17:58] <Atol> How is this place to get a home server running http://dyn.com/dns/
#1953 [17:59] <Atol> Sorry I am good with computer hardware and windows but router and internet info I suck at lol
#1954 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> Atol: did you miss the half-page-long discussion about how their former free service is now no longer free?
#1955 [17:59] <Atol> ya I know
#1956 [17:59] <Atol> But $30 not that much
#1957 [18:01] <Atol> That cheaper then Playing Wizard101 for 3 people for $300+ dollors lol
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#1959 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> wait.. dyndns isn't free anymore?
#1960 [18:03] <Atol> Nope
#1961 [18:03] <dr_bibble> i have a radeon x800 gto
#1962 [18:03] <dr_bibble> graphics card
#1963 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Welll bleh, glad I got one then
#1964 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: As of sometimes recently, the free dyndns.org dommains are not limited to one-per-lapsed-trial customer
#1965 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> Others have been grandfathered in, though
#1966 [18:04] <dr_bibble> doep
#1967 [18:04] <dr_bibble> dope
#1968 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> I see, just checked to see if I still had mine.
#1969 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> High-five, old-timer! o/
#1970 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> \o
#1971 [18:04] <dr_bibble> i got a radeon x800 gto
#1972 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> ??> dr_bibble gpu/amd
#1973 [18:05] <VoxelHead> dr_bibble: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#1974 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> dr_bibble: follow the directions thereupon.
#1975 [18:05] <Atol> That what a 2004 grapics card right
#1976 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> Atol: rougly
#1977 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> er, roughly
#1978 [18:06] <Atol> Had the same make on my old P4 3.4 EE 3mb cache. laptop
#1979 [18:06] <Atol> ops 2mb lol
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#1981 [18:09] <Atol> Ok if I get a dyndns. Which is cheaper then paying $5 to $15 bucks a month for 3 people
#1982 [18:09] <Atol> How would I setup a server
#1983 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> ??> Atol smp/serversetup
#1984 [18:09] <VoxelHead> Atol: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#1985 [18:09] <VoxelHead> Atol: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1986 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> Quite literally the only thing DNS gets you is a more easily memorized server address.
#1987 [18:11] <Atol> But will it fix the Portforward issue
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#1990 [18:13] <AureliusM> Atol: No, I still think you have to port forward first
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#1992 [18:22] <mortisha> hello?
#1993 [18:23] <mortisha> my minecraft wont run
#1994 [18:25] <Ketsueki> I guess it won't.
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#1996 [18:26] <Atol> did you try uninstalling Minecraft and reinstall it
#1997 [18:27] <Atol> Update your Java
#1998 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> Atol: the Shotgun Method of tech support, eh?
#1999 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Forgot the "reinstall windows"
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#2002 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> And "Reformat the hard drive"
#2003 [18:34] <mib_y15kwo> I run the game and get a black screen
#2004 [18:35] <beyer45> Hallo i need help. i am danish.
#2005 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, can't do anything about you being danish.
#2006 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> beyer45: have you looked into Swiss citizenship?
#2007 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> Or did you mean that you are _a_ danish? I'm somewhat hungry.
#2008 [18:39] <beyer45> I bought the game, but are not sure of my purchase has come out through. I've waited an hour, but I have not received any mail. I bought it with visas and filled boxes, so there was something that I should do my visa online purchases more secure. But I said to disconnect. then went back and said thank you for buying this game .......
#2009 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> beyer45: on the reverse of your Visa card, there should be a telephone number. Call that number, and ask whether there is a recent or pending transaction to Mojang AB in Sweeden.
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#2011 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> If there is no such pending or posted transaction, the payment did not go through.
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#2013 [18:41] <beyer45> thanks, but I just do not bother to pay again if it has not gone out through the. Is there a way to where i can see it?
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#2015 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> beyer45 - Only if you call your bank
#2016 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> beyer45: it's difficult to prove a dispositive. Only the bank can tell you with ceartainty.
#2017 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> erm, certainty.
#2018 [18:43] <beyer45> hmm okay.
#2019 [18:43] <stormin> hey i need a little help
#2020 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> We can provide little helps
#2021 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> stormin: sure, but you'll need six meters of tram cable, 19 philips screws, and fourteen gerbils.
#2022 [18:46] <zkxs> Do they have to be philips? I only have the flathead type...
#2023 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> zkxs: sorry, the head type is of vital importance.
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#2025 [18:46] <stormin> i am getting a black screen whenever i try to join any world or server. it may have been because i tried to download singleplayer command mod. i downloaded it but it didn't work so i ignored it. but then when i tried to start minecraft a little latr i got a black screen. i tried many tutorials on youtube but they didn't work. i went to the support page on
#2026 [18:46] <stormin> on the website and it brought me here
#2027 [18:46] <sam502> Remove
#2028 [18:46] <sam502> uhh
#2029 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> ??> stormin forceupdate
#2030 [18:46] <VoxelHead> stormin: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2031 [18:46] <VoxelHead> stormin: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2032 [18:46] <sam502> Remove meta-inf
#2033 [18:47] <sam502> if you didnt
#2034 [18:47] <sam502> Anyway so my server is running fine but i accidently spawned 10000 squids
#2035 [18:47] <sam502> Any idea on removing them?
#2036 [18:47] <sam502> >.>
#2037 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Mcedit -> remove entities
#2038 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> sam502: swords generally work well
#2039 [18:47] <sam502> 10000 squids?
#2040 [18:48] <stormin> wow that was simpler than i thot
#2041 [18:48] <sam502> i used auto aim and auto attack
#2042 [18:48] <stormin> thanks guys?
#2043 [18:48] <sam502> still didnt do much
#2044 [18:48] <sam502> stormin need anything elce?
#2045 [18:48] <stormin> thanks guys!
#2046 [18:48] <stormin> i meant
#2047 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> stormin: quite welcome
#2048 [18:48] <stormin> no thanks but if i have another problem im coming back here cus u guys rock
#2049 [18:48] <sam502> yea these people rock
#2050 [18:48] <sam502> they solve all of my problems
#2051 [18:49] <stormin> :D alright im leaving. thanks again!
#2052 [18:49] <sam502> GreyVulpine how do i edit servers? not sp levels
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#2054 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> MCedit -> open level -> find the level.dat in your server's world folder
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#2056 [18:50] <sam502> okay thanks ill try it
#2057 [18:55] <sam502> im in mcedit
#2058 [18:55] <sam502> what now
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#2061 [18:56] <sam502> never
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#2063 [18:56] <sam502> i figured it out
#2064 [18:57] <sam502> thanks greyvulpine
#2065 [18:57] <sam502> ;]
#2066 [18:57] <sam502> its suppost to delete all the red thingies
#2067 [18:57] <tylord> When i start minecraft and do force update i get "Failed to launch, fatal error (4): null"
#2068 [18:57] <sam502> right?
#2069 [18:57] <sam502> o.e
#2070 [18:58] <sam502> tylord i got that a lot
#2071 [18:58] <sam502> heres what i did
#2072 [18:58] <tylord> How do i fix?
#2073 [18:58] <sam502> what os are you using?
#2074 [18:58] <tylord> Windows
#2075 [18:58] <sam502> xp or 7?
#2076 [18:58] <sam502> or vista
#2077 [18:58] <tylord> 7
#2078 [18:58] <sam502> okay good
#2079 [18:58] <sam502> it will take a minute to type
#2080 [18:59] <tylord> I have tried starting from cmd, im not a noob at computers
#2081 [18:59] <tylord> Ill listen to what you have to say though
#2082 [19:00] <sam502> Go to search and type in %appdata% after that open right click .minecraft properties previous versions then choose when the version when minecraft was working
#2083 [19:01] <zkxs> version... of windows?
#2084 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> zkxs: 7 sometimes has automagic file versioning that works about as well as you'd expect any new Microsoft feature to work, most of the time.
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#2087 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> "Waterdust", also known as 'mud' or 'silt'?
#2088 [19:03] <Waterdust> no..
#2089 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> Or 'slip', to pottery workers?
#2090 [19:03] <THErmAl11> im very laggy how do i fix that
#2091 [19:03] <Waterdust> turn down your video settings in mc
#2092 [19:03] <Waterdust> specifically the distance
#2093 [19:03] <Waterdust> turn off the smooth lighting also
#2094 [19:04] <Waterdust> you might even wanna try turning the particle settings lower
#2095 [19:04] <zkxs> change 'fancy' to 'fast'
#2096 [19:04] <Waterdust> that too
#2097 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> or get a better network connection.
#2098 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> It depends upon what the source of the 'lag' is.
#2099 [19:04] <Waterdust> i suspect he's playing single mode
#2100 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Needs more cathode lighting. Blue LEDs make everything faster
#2101 [19:04] <Waterdust> in which case.. the above applies heavily
#2102 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> If you feel really fancy, go for red, they give 155% improvement in less lagginess
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#2104 [19:05] <THErmAl11> im very laggy how do i fix that
#2105 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: Blue LEDs are good, but I've found black stripes or stickers that say 'Turbo' are remarkably efficacious.
#2106 [19:05] <Waterdust> anyways.. despite being kicked from this channel last nite, i came to update ya'll about this whole "cannot buy game" thing for future complaints
#2107 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - Definitely.
#2108 [19:06] <Waterdust> despite contacting every end other than MC itself (as they have no phone number) about payments an who's fault it is that gives the "must wait xx hours because you've reached the max tries to purchase" error
#2109 [19:06] <dodox> Hi everyone, my account was premium and worked during the first week i bought it, but i haven't touched it in about 2-3 weeks and now its no longer premium. anybody have any idea why this might be the case? it was a gift code from a friend.
#2110 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> dodox - Ask your friend if his bank stopped or reversed payment on the gift code
#2111 [19:08] <dodox> will do. thanks GreyVulpine!
#2112 [19:08] <Waterdust> in the end MC has to admit some level of fault as to why payments won't be allowed, paypal, banks, moneybookers, all deny any fault an claim there are no blocks on their ends, that infact no errors have reached them saying the payments got declined
#2113 [19:08] <zkxs> What happens if MC denies fault too?
#2114 [19:08] <Waterdust> BBB complaint is my next motion
#2115 [19:09] <Waterdust> I don't stand alone in the problem, others will join the cause an eventually MC will have to take notice of the problem
#2116 [19:09] <THErmAl11> how do i make a server
#2117 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/serversetup
#2118 [19:10] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: Lots of information here:
#2119 [19:10] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2120 [19:10] <Waterdust> if they'd had taken my money but not allowed something i wouldn't be here talking to ya'll =p
#2121 [19:10] <THErmAl11> ive tryed that site but i can barly understand it at all
#2122 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> We can't do a damn thing about it. We have no representatives from Mojang, nor Moneybookers or Paypal here.
#2123 [19:11] <Waterdust> not asking you to
#2124 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> What we have seen, is that people using moneybookers, having those exact problems, but not when using Paypal
#2125 [19:12] <Waterdust> updating you so if you get another user complaining about this crap, u know what i said, an u can copy paste ur own version of the story
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#2127 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> Waterdust - We understand the frustration, we are too. We can't do anything other than point users to the customer support sections of the respective payment processor
#2128 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> Waterdust - You're not the first person to experience this, and you certainly won't be the last.
#2129 [19:13] <Waterdust> I aim to end it
#2130 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> By all means, please do.
#2131 [19:13] <Waterdust> but that won't be here
#2132 [19:13] <Waterdust> not in this channel
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#2134 [19:14] <Waterdust> just sometimes it means something to another person to hear that someone else went as far as them or further to get it fixed, idk maybe what i said will be of use to you
#2135 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> I want to reiterate, Mojang doesn't do payment processing. All their system does, is receive confirmation of payment, and flip a digital boolean from false to true in the user's profile, indicating they've paid
#2136 [19:15] <Waterdust> I have heard that before
#2137 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> If there's a failure of payment, it's almost always (from the few we've heard back), the fault of the customer's bank, their credit card, their card, or the payment processor
#2138 [19:15] <Waterdust> but when you get right down to it, something is wrong, no ones making enough "noise" to get it looked into by MC
#2139 [19:16] <Waterdust> I understand that pov, an plz remember i'm not here to complain about it just to share the story on my end
#2140 [19:16] <THErmAl11> does anyone have a link to a site that tells you how to make a online erver that has easy to understand steps
#2141 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> Waterdust - I can assure you there has been droves of emails to Mojang on this issue. Support@mojang.com, is consistantly backed up to 60-70 THOUSAND emails
#2142 [19:16] <jca2323> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2143 [19:17] <Waterdust> sadly the wiki url imo would be the best mAl11
#2144 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> They've had to move away to start a new help email, help@mojang.com, to try to start fresh.
#2145 [19:17] <Waterdust> i think they should just have another company handle the transactions
#2146 [19:17] <THErmAl11> oh ok thanks ill try it again see if i can do it this time with that link thx jca2323
#2147 [19:17] <Waterdust> they pull in enough $ to do it
#2148 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> They already have a dozen or more
#2149 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Moneybookers, paypal, ideal, ELV, and several others
#2150 [19:18] <Waterdust> it's like when square enix had a direct pay option, now they have some junk thru a 3rd world wannabe paypal
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#2153 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> Waterdust: you have no idea how much of a pain in the ass VISA et al. make it to be able to be licensed to handle their transactions.
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#2155 [19:19] <Waterdust> i hear u that they have different payment options but my story goes to say even those get denied as far as i can use
#2156 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> that's why many companies end up going through established third parties.
#2157 [19:19] <Waterdust> i'm talking about an all out right no allow
#2158 [19:19] <Waterdust> no matter what the payment is
#2159 [19:19] <Waterdust> or where it comes/goes thru
#2160 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> Then doesn't that tell you something's wrong on your end? If 4 and a half million people have successfully paid for Minecraft, through those sources?
#2161 [19:20] <Waterdust> with all protection disabled
#2162 [19:20] <Waterdust> full support from my bank/3rd parties
#2163 [19:20] <Waterdust> i seriously doubt this
#2164 [19:20] <THErmAl11> i was able to purchase minecraft ok why are u complianing
#2165 [19:21] <Waterdust> i was sharing my story
#2166 [19:21] <Waterdust> not complaining
#2167 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> Stats are freely available off their website. Mojang's completely transparent about their earnings since day one
#2168 [19:21] <Waterdust> i had to get specific for a moment plz don't confuse my statements
#2169 [19:21] <Waterdust> do you work for them?
#2170 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> I do not.
#2171 [19:21] <Waterdust> your awefully defensive
#2172 [19:21] <jca2323> Just to let you know Waterdust, Mojang doesn't directly handle your money.
#2173 [19:21] <Waterdust> i'm not saying that
#2174 [19:22] <jca2323> Moneybookers does.
#2175 [19:22] <Waterdust> i'm sharing a story
#2176 [19:22] <jca2323> Oh, Ok
#2177 [19:22] <Waterdust> it's my experience, maybe it'll help someone else idk
#2178 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Then give us something about your experience that might relate. What bank did you use? How did you try and pay? Where are you located in the world?]
#2179 [19:22] <Waterdust> someone could be sitting here about to complain about the very thing an is reading what we're saying now =p
#2180 [19:23] <THErmAl11> ok ur really getting annoying just tell them ur problme
#2181 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> When did you pay, with what service did you use? What sort of interaction did you have between either the payment processor, or your financial institution
#2182 [19:23] <Waterdust> usa / chase / visa / paypal / multiple accounts / different IP's
#2183 [19:23] <Waterdust> i would have a forum url about it but the forum despite saying i have 3 more posts won't make my topic to share the story
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#2187 [19:24] <Waterdust> it does some error #9001?
#2188 [19:24] <Waterdust> an then changes the error each time i try
#2189 [19:24] <zkxs> its over 9000!?
#2190 [19:24] <Waterdust> yes =p
#2191 [19:24] <Waterdust> with an arrow to its knee
#2192 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Sounds like a moneybookers Error ID
#2193 [19:24] <zkxs> The plot thickens...
#2194 [19:24] <keret> we cant get past the trail ...page do we need to buy it ?
#2195 [19:24] <Waterdust> thats a forum error
#2196 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> keret - Trial page?
#2197 [19:25] <Waterdust> not the error in question to my story
#2198 [19:25] <Waterdust> if you want the only actual error message i get from paypal is this
#2199 [19:25] <Waterdust> Your purchase was for some reason denied to be processed. (Reference: 5b376f37- c017-xxxxxxxxxxxblocked by me)
#2200 [19:25] <keret> we got a name and then went to the first page
#2201 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> "denied to be processed"?
#2202 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> That does not sound like an actual PayPal error message.
#2203 [19:26] <jca2323> I think that means Moneybookers rejected your paypal
#2204 [19:26] <Waterdust> the rest of my errors are along the lines of "you must wait 12, 24, 48 hours to try again"
#2205 [19:26] <Waterdust> if the forum would let me make a topic about it i'd take screen shots to aid the matter
#2206 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> What browser(s) did you use? Have you tried clearing your browser's cache/temp files/cookies before trying again? Did you try this on other computers?
#2207 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> Did you contact Moneybookers or Paypal directly? How about your bank?
#2208 [19:29] <Waterdust> yes, all 3
#2209 [19:29] <Waterdust> each one denies fault
#2210 [19:29] <Waterdust> they all state no restrictions an infact i quote "we have no errors on our end showing a blocked or denied transaction"
#2211 [19:30] <Waterdust> i even asked if there was a restriction placed in regards to "international purchases" the replies given was "we show no such restriction per your account(s)"
#2212 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> Waterdust: did you ever try putting the 20 Euro directly into your PayPal account, and using that at the source of funds?
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#2214 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> I literally did that myself last week, and it worked both perfectly and instanteously.
#2215 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> er, instantaneously.
#2216 [19:33] <Waterdust> that would take a few days, i can add it to the to-do list tho
#2217 [19:33] <Waterdust> tho i doubt it'll be effective, i tried using my account # seperate from the debit card an PP still was rejected
#2218 [19:34] <Waterdust> aka account = checking #
#2219 [19:34] <Waterdust> at any rate thx
#2220 [19:35] <Waterdust> i don't want to set fire to the channel
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#2224 [19:39] <mib_4z3iik> My account cant connect to minecraft.net and i was wondering how i could fix this
#2225 [19:40] <akalien> i cant find my minecraft.jar or .bin folders where would they be located.
#2226 [19:40] <mib_4z3iik> i think you have to search your %appdata
#2227 [19:40] <akalien> thanks
#2228 [19:44] <Waterdust> oh one more thing, the exe not working is the result of it not being 32bit or compatible with 32bit, that is my results from last nite
#2229 [19:44] <Waterdust> same for the server exe
#2230 [19:45] <Waterdust> incase anyone comes asking =)
#2231 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#2232 [19:45] <Waterdust> it's 64bit only
#2233 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Uh, no it isn't
#2234 [19:45] * GreyVulpine runs minecraft fine on his 32 bit Windows XP box
#2234 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> for both the client and server
#2235 [19:45] <Waterdust> doesn't work on mine
#2236 [19:45] <Waterdust> i have to use that mod'd jar file
#2237 [19:46] <Waterdust> i also tested it on 2 other 32 bit systems
#2238 [19:46] <Waterdust> same results different hardware
#2239 [19:47] <Waterdust> don't have to accept my findings but thats what it is, each 64bit system i run it on works flawlessly so far
#2240 [19:48] <Waterdust> an if u can awesome =)
#2241 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> I've run minecraft on multiple 32 bit systems with no problem. I've helped remotely set up people with both the minecraft and minecraft server on 32 bit systems
#2242 [19:48] <Waterdust> idk what to tell you, 3 systems can't be wrong from my exp
#2243 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> I've helped set up hundreds of systems. That's not wrong
#2244 [19:48] <Waterdust> u got any other idea why its like that i'm open to hear it
#2245 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Don't know what to say, Minecraft hates you for some reason
#2246 [19:49] <Waterdust> lol
#2247 [19:49] <clarjon1> some people swear up and down that computers and softwares don't have feelings...
#2248 [19:50] <Waterdust> 3 systems, no protection, varying settings & hardware.. idk.. college taught me different..
#2249 [19:50] <Waterdust> i'm just sayin =)
#2250 [19:50] <Waterdust> clar, are you implying the cake isn't a lie?
#2251 [19:51] <clarjon1> I never said any such thing
#2252 [19:51] <Waterdust> then shhh.. you'll wake skynet =p
#2253 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> Waterdust: you seem to ahve a lot of problems that are uniqie to you specifically.
#2254 [19:52] <Waterdust> yep i get that alot
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#2256 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft is ad-hoc Java compiled by whichever JRE is present, be it 32-bit, 64-bit, or 73-bit
#2257 [19:53] <Waterdust> 73?
#2258 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> If there were a 73-bit JRE, Java would work in it
#2259 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> er, Minecraft rather
#2260 [19:53] <Waterdust> well, all i can say is come to my house? i prove you wrong?
#2261 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> The code is agnostic to the CPU it's run on, that's the whole point of Java.
#2262 [19:54] <Waterdust> that might be but none of that changes the results i get
#2263 [19:55] <Waterdust> it would lead me to believe i'm missing a variable.. but when you run a system of elimination.. i can't find anything else =/
#2264 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> I have a Minecraft server running flawlessly in this environment:
#2265 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> /bin/sh: minecraft: not found
#2266 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> java version "1.6.0_26"
#2267 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_26-b03)
#2268 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 20.1-b02, mixed mode)
#2269 [19:56] <Waterdust> if the programming is good, an the hardware is different, but the setups are proper, an the error remains the same, what would be your conclusion ya know?
#2270 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> protip: "minecraft -version" is not a command. :p
#2271 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> Assuming the programming is good may be your first mistake.
#2272 [19:56] <Waterdust> i didn't say perfect
#2273 [19:56] <Waterdust> i said good
#2274 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> assumption just makes an 'ass' out of 'u' and 'mption'.
#2275 [19:57] <Waterdust> good just means someone who has more of an idea than some kid learning c++ or w/e, usually college exp'd
#2276 [19:58] <Waterdust> an by experience such people don't generate this kind of flaw.. unless their from Epic..
#2277 [19:58] <Waterdust> they remain the "exemption"
#2278 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> "They're".
#2279 [19:58] <Waterdust> an i continue to spell it wrong just for people like you =p
#2280 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> "and".
#2281 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> and it was not misspelled; it was misused.
#2282 [19:58] <Waterdust> same thing
#2283 [19:58] <Waterdust> =p
#2284 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> Not remotely.
#2285 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> But we digress.
#2286 [19:59] <Waterdust> yup =)
#2287 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> The fact remains that Minecraft (both Server and Client) runs perfectly happily on both 32- and 64-bit environments. If you find this not to be the case, the fault lies with your environment.
#2288 [20:00] <Waterdust> i find fault in that statement, you just admitted that the code was not perfect =p
#2289 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> I never asserted the code was perfect; only that it runs perfectly well in 32- and 64-bit JREs.
#2290 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> Warts and all.
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#2292 [20:01] <Waterdust> "assuming" remember? that lil bit, implies that the code was never perfect or at the least has given me said impression even if not intended =)
#2293 [20:01] <Waterdust> at any rate go play
#2294 [20:01] <Waterdust> =)
#2295 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> Can't. I'm at work.
#2296 [20:02] <Waterdust> u don't need to spend time with me
#2297 [20:02] <gamakichi> how do I install mindcraft on my laptop?
#2298 [20:02] <Waterdust> first get a bottle of whiskey.. prepare a chicken..
#2299 [20:02] <Waterdust> ^.^
#2300 [20:02] <Waterdust> jk
#2301 [20:02] <Waterdust> peace
#2302 [20:03] <gamakichi> trying to start the game and I get some java error console ???
#2303 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> Copy the error to pastebin.com, submit it, give us the http:// address so that we can read it
#2304 [20:05] <gamakichi> Detected from bootclasspath: C:\PROGRA~1\Java\jre7\lib\deploy.jar
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#2306 [20:06] <gamakichi> http://mibpaste.com/6kfhnr
#2307 [20:06] <gamakichi> there it is ..
#2308 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Java 7's been known to have issues with Minecraft. We recommend users instead using Java 6
#2309 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Please try uninstalling java 7, and reinstall java 6 from:
#2310 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> ?? java
#2311 [20:06] <VoxelHead> java: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html
#2312 [20:07] <gamakichi> so I need t odown grade to ver 6?
#2313 [20:07] <gamakichi> oh ok thks
#2314 [20:07] <gamakichi> oh ok thks
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#2317 [20:28] <Gassy> hello
#2318 [20:29] <Gassy> can i get some help
#2319 [20:30] <|Kiichan|> Gassy: possibly :P im makign dinner right now
#2320 [20:30] * |Kiichan| is also slappign people on the forums
#2320 [20:30] <Gassy> oh kool
#2321 [20:32] <|Kiichan|> Gassy: just describe your problem in as much detail as possible
#2322 [20:34] <Gassy> so i go to sign in and my pc lets me then i click on in browser and all i can see were i should see the game starting up i only see stone
#2323 [20:35] <|Kiichan|> IS this classic? or the full game?
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#2325 [20:38] <Gassy> full
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#2328 [20:40] <|Kiichan|> the stone is the webpage background, not the game's. the game usually errors to a white, black, or dirt backgrown.
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#2330 [20:40] <|Kiichan|> the browser blockign java apps?
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#2332 [20:44] <|Kiichan|> Gassy: have you tried runnign the client? the download.
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#2334 [20:49] <wesSS> minecraft keeps locking up. what should I do?
#2335 [20:49] <|Kiichan|> wesSS: modded the game at all?
#2336 [20:49] <wesSS> nope
#2337 [20:50] <wesSS> it worked okay until today and now it locks up after about 3 minutes
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#2339 [20:50] <wesSS> then have to log off to quit out of it
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#2343 [20:55] <wesSS> any help please?
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#2345 [21:01] <|Kiichan|> ??> wesSS forceupdate
#2346 [21:01] <VoxelHead> wesSS: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2347 [21:01] <VoxelHead> wesSS: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2348 [21:06] <wesSS> I'll try to force update ty
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#2350 [21:09] <wesSS> there is no options above the login
#2351 [21:10] <|Kiichan|> wesSS: you have the client? with news and login in the bottom right corner?
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#2354 [21:13] <Superbllama> im trying to buy mc but after i put my information in, i get this, "Credit/debit card deposits disabled You can not use your credit/debit card for the next 24 hours. This restriction cannot be lifted manually by you or our service team. Please return to the website of the Merchant where you will receive further instructions."
#2355 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Superbllama - Try paying with Paypal instead. Paypal's usually more reliable
#2356 [21:14] <wesSS> no, I play in browser
#2357 [21:14] <Superbllama> i clicked return to merchant and it said my transaction was successful and no email or code was given
#2358 [21:14] <|Kiichan|> ??> wesSS win/reinst
#2359 [21:14] <VoxelHead> wesSS: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2360 [21:14] <VoxelHead> wesSS: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2361 [21:14] <Superbllama> GreyVulpine- ill try paypal thanks
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#2363 [21:17] <Gassy> no
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#2365 [21:22] <wesSS> I see roaming in appdata so I'll delete all except for a save
#2366 [21:23] <wesSS> windows+R doesn't work though
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#2368 [21:24] <|Kiichan|> you press and hold the win key and press r, like you do with shift
#2369 [21:24] <UsF> hello
#2370 [21:24] <|Kiichan|> or ctrl
#2371 [21:24] <|Kiichan|> UsF: hi *goes and nukes the corn*
#2372 [21:24] <UsF> are users that are hacking mc servers reportable?
#2373 [21:24] <UsF> i dont get that reference o.o
#2374 [21:25] <Gassy> what do i do i downloaded minecraft and it opens wierd files
#2375 [21:25] <UsF> you just need a minecraft.exe from the official website
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#2377 [21:26] <UsF> maybe you downloaded the server files?
#2378 [21:26] <Gassy> no
#2379 [21:27] <UsF> are you on windows?
#2380 [21:27] <Gassy> do you have centOS as an OS
#2381 [21:27] <|Kiichan|> UsF: im making mah dinner :P and 'hacking' servers? not just griefing?
#2382 [21:27] <Gassy> no
#2383 [21:27] <UsF> kiichan: yes, deleting the server backup and sending in a friend onto the server to negotiate a hostage situation, threatening more measures >.> he played there before and appareantly then got bored and started hacking and crashing it
#2384 [21:27] <Gassy> no im not on windows
#2385 [21:28] <UsF> i dont know how the other versions run then, sorry for assuming this :/
#2386 [21:28] <Cth977> Gassy: do i know you from somewhere?
#2387 [21:28] <Gassy> it ok thanks for the help
#2388 [21:28] <Gassy> idk
#2389 [21:28] <Cth977> Gassy: you on youtube?
#2390 [21:29] <Gassy> yeah
#2391 [21:29] <Cth977> gassy mexican?
#2392 [21:29] <Gassy> no
#2393 [21:29] <Cth977> nvm
#2394 [21:29] <|Kiichan|> UsF: there no central policing system.
#2395 [21:29] <Cth977> i dont know you then
#2396 [21:29] <Cth977> i dont know you then
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#2398 [21:29] <UsF> the "how to run minecraft" from the official website didnt help? gassy http://www.minecraft.net/download
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#2400 [21:30] <UsF> kiichan: i dont get why not but ok...that sucks. we do have an account system, why not use it for something useful besides online drm ;/
#2401 [21:30] <|Kiichan|> UsF: your best bet is to threaten to call some sort of authority on them if they actually DID hack the server itself and wernt just given access prior.
#2402 [21:30] <UsF> they were given access prior, but then banned and removed, however they then started crashing it :s
#2403 [21:30] <|Kiichan|> UsF: its not drm.. its ensuring the named player IS the actual player
#2404 [21:30] <UsF> not my server though, im just pissed about loosing all my work :<
#2405 [21:31] <zkxs> well, apparently he wasn't banned very well
#2406 [21:31] <UsF> its drm too
#2407 [21:31] <UsF> he wasnt connected when crashing the server
#2408 [21:31] <zkxs> drm that lets you install the game onto as many computers that you want to?
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#2410 [21:32] <|Kiichan|> UsF: DRM typicly defines something client side that denies usage of the game and reconfirms your authorization to use it each time.
#2411 [21:32] <UsF> one time online drm is also drm :s
#2412 [21:32] <UsF> zkxs yea that ;P its less restrictive :d
#2413 [21:33] <UsF> ah well
#2414 [21:33] <UsF> thanks for the info though, i dont wanna rant about the auth system
#2415 [21:33] <|Kiichan|> UsF: so.. if they put the game files behind a login but were free to download and anyone coudl sue any name they wanted after that...
#2416 [21:33] <|Kiichan|> *coudl use
#2417 [21:34] <UsF> non registered playernames get a prefix or number behind that ;s
#2418 [21:34] * |Kiichan| tries something
#2418 [21:34] <zkxs> UsF: Then how does Mojang prevent minecraft from being pirated?
#2419 [21:35] <UsF> i dont want to get into this discussion s:
#2420 [21:35] * |Kiichan| logs in with the non-premium account abd still gets the play offline button enabled
#2420 [21:36] <UsF> but preventing it from getting pirated = drm :>
#2421 [21:36] <UsF> non premium accounts? never heard of that D:
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#2423 [21:36] <zkxs> UsF: They can be used for classic.
#2424 [21:36] <|Kiichan|> !paid Sennyotai
#2425 [21:36] <|Kiichan|> !paid NutBunny
#2426 [21:37] * |Kiichan| just logged in in the client as nutbunny
#2426 [21:37] <|Kiichan|> !paid NutBunny
#2427 [21:38] <|Kiichan|> said user not premium, buitthe playoffline button was still useable
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#2429 [21:38] <UsF> ah okay
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#2431 [21:39] <UsF> !paid UsF
#2432 [21:40] <UsF> D:
#2433 [21:40] <UsF> how does that check even work? username?
#2434 [21:40] <UsF> !paid Breitschwert
#2435 [21:40] <UsF> sweet
#2436 [21:40] <zkxs> UsF: Minecraft has no copy protection, if you obtain a copy of the game, but can't login, you can still play offline.
#2437 [21:41] <UsF> ah ok
#2438 [21:41] <zkxs> UsF: And it works using this: http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=Usernamehere
#2439 [21:41] <UsF> ah ok
#2440 [21:45] <UsF> oO i wrote ah ok two times and didnt even notice it
#2441 [21:46] <|Kiichan|> lol
#2442 [21:48] <|Kiichan|> mmm buttery sweet corn.
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#2444 [21:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> quite a change
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#2450 [22:25] <Coll> hey uh
#2451 [22:26] <Coll> I thought Herobrine was just a rumor and stuff
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#2454 [22:30] <Waterdust> heya guys
#2455 [22:30] <Waterdust> I'm back
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#2457 [22:30] <Waterdust> I have an update of USE for you this time
#2458 [22:30] <Waterdust> but before that.. whats with the forum errors not allowing me to post?
#2459 [22:31] <xales> We don't run the forums.
#2460 [22:31] <Waterdust> #10344 specifically if someone knows it
#2461 [22:31] <Waterdust> aw..
#2462 [22:31] <Waterdust> no one even familiar with it?
#2463 [22:31] <xales> Try asking in #minecraftforum
#2464 [22:31] <Waterdust> very well..
#2465 [22:31] <xales> #minecraftforums , sorry
#2466 [22:31] <Waterdust> but you still get an update
#2467 [22:31] <Waterdust> I have solved the payment problem
#2468 [22:32] <Waterdust> an it wasn't easy
#2469 [22:32] <xales> it *would* have been if you had listened. regardless, I don't really care
#2470 [22:32] <Waterdust> I wanted to post it on the fourm an just url u guys but nope.. it'll have to wait
#2471 [22:32] <Waterdust> no.. i did listen
#2472 [22:32] <xales> uh, what?
#2473 [22:32] <Waterdust> but it failed
#2474 [22:32] <Waterdust> the problem was that "the transaction is flagged as a high risk"
#2475 [22:33] <xales> which is exactly what I said...
#2476 [22:33] <Waterdust> an requres cusomer support that knows what this is
#2477 [22:33] <Waterdust> no you did not but i won't argue with you
#2478 [22:33] <xales> ?? attitude
#2479 [22:33] <VoxelHead> attitude: The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#2480 [22:33] <VoxelHead> attitude: In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#2481 [22:33] <Waterdust> I didn't come here to fight with you guys
#2482 [22:33] <Waterdust> an I'm not the one with an attitude
#2483 [22:34] <Noodle_> Waterdust, what was your nick the last time you were here?
#2484 [22:34] <Waterdust> the same
#2485 [22:34] <Noodle_> and how long ago was it?
#2486 [22:34] <Waterdust> a few hours ago why
#2487 [22:35] <TheNoodle> So I can look through logs.
#2488 [22:35] <Waterdust> why?
#2489 [22:35] <Waterdust> I didn't fight with you guys last time I was here either
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#2491 [22:36] <Fangedgameer> Hey my Minecraft says it keeps running out of memory all the time, is there anything I can do to fix that?
#2492 [22:36] <Waterdust> this is starting to feel like people here have some sort of agenda against me, its just an update, an a shared story, I don't see the big deal
#2493 [22:37] <TheNoodle> Waterdust, the problem is that your 'update' is a common solution.
#2494 [22:37] <Waterdust> if it saves you guys from having to type stuff out yourselves, i'd imagine you'd be happy for it
#2495 [22:37] <xales> Fangedgameer: If you have a 64-bit operating system and more than 4GB of RAM, install the 64-bit version of Java.
#2496 [22:37] <Waterdust> but I have the solution
#2497 [22:37] <TheNoodle> You're not listening.
#2498 [22:37] <Waterdust> you can test it
#2499 [22:37] <xales> Otherwise, get more memory. Alternatively, stop using any mods if you happen to be, as well as texture packs.
#2500 [22:37] <Waterdust> it's not as common as you think, no ones really heard this part of my story
#2501 [22:38] <Fangedgameer> xales I have exactly 4GB of RAM, is that fine?
#2502 [22:38] <Waterdust> you assuming my story is "common" doesn't make it "entirely" so
#2503 [22:38] <xales> Fangedgameer: If you have a 64-bit OS, then you should install the 64-bit version of Java from Java.com
#2504 [22:38] <xales> Fangedgameer: Follow the prompts to download it, but when it tells you it's suggested version, click 'show all versions' or something like that
#2505 [22:39] <TheNoodle> I'll let xales deal with you given that neither aubot or wugbot are here.
#2506 [22:39] <Fangedgameer> xales Ok Thanks
#2507 [22:39] <xales> Fangedgameer: then select the 64-bit one (I believe it says exactly "Offline Windows (x64)") and download+install it
#2508 [22:39] <xales> TheNoodle: Have fun
#2509 [22:39] <TheNoodle> ily
#2510 [22:39] <Waterdust> at any rate i am clearly not welcome here wither I have something to contribute or not
#2511 [22:39] * VoxelHead kicked Waterdust from #minecrafthelp (Reason: aterdust :Banned)
#2512 [22:40] <xales> I'm pretty sure I banned him before...though I forget if it was via Vox or not
#2513 [22:40] <TheNoodle> <3
#2514 [22:40] <Fangedgameer> xales I was told to download java 6 for better minecraft performannce, is there a 64-bit download for java 6?
#2515 [22:41] <TheNoodle> There is.
#2516 [22:41] <xales> Fangedgameer: Yep
#2517 [22:41] <Fangedgameer> xales Ok
#2518 [22:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> its dark magic
#2519 [22:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> some say, heresy
#2520 [22:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> but we know better
#2521 [22:41] <TheNoodle> Fangedgameer: http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=58126
#2522 [22:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> quickly, before the stake men come
#2523 [22:42] <Fangedgameer> TheNoodle Thanks but I think I already got it
#2524 [22:42] <TheNoodle> lolk
#2525 [22:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> Fangedgameer - do java -version in prompt
#2526 [22:42] <Fangedgameer> WhereIsMySpoon .....
#2527 [22:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> "i think" != "i know i have"
#2528 [22:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> unless you dont want to make sure you have the best performance
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#2532 [22:47] <Fangedgameer> WHereismyspoon How do I do that
#2533 [22:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?
#2534 [22:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> i just told you
#2535 [22:48] <Fangedgameer> WhereIsMySpoon How so
#2536 [22:48] <TheNoodle> "- do java -version in prompt"
#2537 [22:48] <TheNoodle> Fangedgameer, hold down the windows key and press R, in the box that comes up type cmd and hit enter. This is the command prompt
#2538 [22:48] <TheNoodle> Type java -version here
#2539 [22:49] <Fangedgameer> TheNoodle Im not so smart as to know where to do that at
#2540 [22:49] <Fangedgameer> TheNoodle ,though*
#2541 [22:50] <thunderbite> When I start up the minecraft launcher, it just shows the grey screen with bunch of html code at the top, and I cant log in, i can only play offline and I cant connect to any server
#2542 [22:50] <xales> thunderbite: Have you successfully logged in before?
#2543 [22:50] <Fangedgameer> java -version
#2544 [22:50] <thunderbite> yes
#2545 [22:50] <xales> thunderbite: What username are you trying to log in with?
#2546 [22:50] <thunderbite> thunderbite
#2547 [22:51] <xales> thunderbite: It sounds like your firewall software is blocking Minecraft; please try adding an exception or completely disabling any firewall software you might be running.
#2548 [22:51] <Fangedgameer> TheNoodle I take it there is some kind of sumbol i put such as an asterick or parenthesis, or maybe just a dash, not that i would know that, but..
#2549 [22:53] <thunderbite> xales i think it's something about java though
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#2551 [22:54] <Fangedganeer> TheNoodle Anything you might have said I didnt catch cause I lost connection a while ago
#2552 [22:54] <xales> thunderbite: Everything you have described indicates that Minecraft is failing to connect, which is almost always caused by firewall software.
#2553 [22:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> Fangedganeer - hold down the windows key and hit r, type cmd and press enter
#2554 [22:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> then type "java -version" without quotes, and paste result here
#2555 [22:55] <thunderbite> xales Well when I try to play any java games, they don't work, they just show that java symbol and it doesn't load up
#2556 [22:55] <thunderbite> like the powder game
#2557 [22:55] <xales> thunderbite: Try completely uninstalling Java, and reinstalling it
#2558 [22:55] <thunderbite> I did
#2559 [22:55] <thunderbite> many times
#2560 [22:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> you need to press enter
#2561 [22:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> after typing the java -version
#2562 [22:56] <thunderbite> I tried Java 6 u30, 7 u2, 6 u29 etc
#2563 [22:56] <Fangedganeer> WhereIsMySpoon Ok Im not that behind in computers
#2564 [22:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok :)
#2565 [22:57] <xales> thunderbite: Then, back to disabling any security software you might be running. They tend to like screwing with Java. This is a very common issue, and it's good to remove it as a possibility early on.
#2566 [22:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> i see
#2567 [22:57] <Fangedganeer> WhereIsMySpoon But i do need to know how to highlight the results
#2568 [22:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> highlight by left click + drag
#2569 [22:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> copy by hitting enter
#2570 [22:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> make sure you highlight all teh text in a box
#2571 [22:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> or it wont select it properly
#2572 [22:58] <Fangedganeer> WhereIsMySpoon I cant highlight
#2573 [22:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> right click top left of cmd prompt -> edit -> mark
#2574 [22:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> left click + drag box over text
#2575 [22:59] <Fangedganeer> WhereIsMySpoon Nvm I right click and select all
#2576 [22:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok that works too
#2577 [22:59] <Fangedganeer> Lol
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#2579 [22:59] <Fangedganeer> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
#2580 [22:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> er
#2581 [22:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> what
#2582 [22:59] <thunderbite> java
#2583 [22:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> you did do "java -version"
#2584 [22:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> right?
#2585 [22:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> without quotes
#2586 [23:00] <Fangedganeer> Yeah
#2587 [23:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> you shouldnt get anything to do with microsoft
#2588 [23:00] <TheNoodle> And then you looked at what appeared after you pressed enter?
#2589 [23:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> :S
#2590 [23:00] <TheNoodle> Not what was at the top of the box?
#2591 [23:00] <thunderbite> xales but the weird thing is... I can play minecraft singleplayer...
#2592 [23:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh right yea
#2593 [23:01] <Fangedganeer> WhereIsMySpoon I highlighted pressed enter, and came here and CTRL+V and thats what came up
#2594 [23:01] <xales> thunderbite: Again, indicating it's a problem related to establishing an Internet connection
#2595 [23:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> you cant ctrl-v large portions of text into this channel
#2596 [23:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> pastebin it
#2597 [23:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> www.pastebin.com
#2598 [23:01] <mib_q7qxfx> I am trying to play Minecraft Classic and I downloaded Java and still I have a black screen that shows. It shows a Java circle download, then for a brief second a Minecraft sign, then it turns black. I installed .NET Harware and it still didn't work. How can I fix this?
#2599 [23:01] <Fangedganeer> http://mibpaste.com/tuZtZZ
#2600 [23:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> thats empty
#2601 [23:01] <Fangedganeer> Wtf
#2602 [23:02] <Fangedganeer> K
#2603 [23:02] <Fangedganeer> Hold on
#2604 [23:02] <Fangedganeer> http://mibpaste.com/R2xAvm
#2605 [23:02] <Fangedganeer> There we go
#2606 [23:02] <thunderbite> xales ooh it looks like it's doing something
#2607 [23:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok so its 64bit
#2608 [23:02] <Fangedganeer> Yes
#2609 [23:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> so you're fine
#2610 [23:03] <Fangedganeer> Lol
#2611 [23:03] <Fangedganeer> Ok
#2612 [23:03] <mib_q7qxfx> I am trying to play Minecraft Classic and I downloaded Java and still I have a black screen that shows. It shows a Java circle download, then for a brief second a Minecraft sign, then it turns black. I installed .NET Harware and it still didn't work. How can I fix this?
#2613 [23:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> now i can go to bed
#2614 [23:03] <xales> mib_q7qxfx: Unfortunately, we can no longer provide support for Classic. It's very old, and has stopped being developed a long time ago.
#2615 [23:03] <Fangedganeer> WhereIsMySpoon xales TheNoodle Thanks for the help
#2616 [23:03] <mib_q7qxfx> Oh, well, could you tell me what might be my problem and I can research it???
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#2618 [23:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> mib_q7qxfx - only thing i can recommend is getting latest drivers for card and reinstalling java, the usual stuff
#2619 [23:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> otherwise yea, what xales said
#2620 [23:04] <nekronuke_> i assume i guessed right
#2621 [23:04] <mib_q7qxfx> Ok, I'm not going to fix it, I willl just buy the game! ROFL!
#2622 [23:05] <nekronuke_> mib_q7qxfx, whats your error?
#2623 [23:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> yay
#2624 [23:05] <nekronuke_> oh derp
#2625 [23:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> buy the game is best option
#2626 [23:05] <mib_q7qxfx> I am trying to play Minecraft Classic and I downloaded Java and still I have a black screen that shows. It shows a Java circle download, then for a brief second a Minecraft sign, then it turns black. I installed .NET Harware and it still didn't work. How can I fix this?
#2627 [23:05] <nekronuke_> bad video card?
#2628 [23:05] <mib_q7qxfx> That's my error.
#2629 [23:05] <Ketsueki> Dunno about classic
#2630 [23:05] <nekronuke_> bad video drivers or something?
#2631 [23:05] <Ketsueki> mib_q7qxfx: let's try the usual suspects
#2632 [23:05] <Ketsueki> ??> mib_q7qxfx
#2633 [23:06] <mib_q7qxfx> No, I got a new Video Card, but you might be talking about something else
#2634 [23:06] <Ketsueki> ??> mib_q7qxfx win/dxdiag
#2635 [23:06] <Ketsueki> absent minded ^.^;
#2636 [23:06] <VoxelHead> mib_q7qxfx: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2637 [23:06] <VoxelHead> mib_q7qxfx: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2638 [23:06] <thunderbite> aha!
#2639 [23:06] <thunderbite> xales thanks bro, I think it's working
#2640 [23:06] <nekronuke_> mib_q7qxfx, i was thinking minecraft error saying you have bad video card drivers
#2641 [23:07] <Ketsueki> mib_q7qxfx: do the dxdiag pastebin thing
#2642 [23:08] <thunderbite> xales but it's stuck at 1% when downloading lwjgl.jar
#2643 [23:09] <xales> thunderbite: Again, this points to firewall software, or, possibly antivirus software
#2644 [23:09] <thunderbite> I disabled everything
#2645 [23:09] <xales> Out of curiosity, what software are you running?
#2646 [23:09] <thunderbite> antivirus?
#2647 [23:09] <xales> A...certain product by a certain company that used to be known as Symantec likes to not-actually-disable-itself
#2648 [23:10] <thunderbite> ew, symantec
#2649 [23:10] <mib_q7qxfx> Hw do I get to the adress bar and the IRC Channel?
#2650 [23:10] <thunderbite> I have AVG
#2651 [23:10] <nekronuke_> ...what?
#2652 [23:10] <xales> thunderbite: Full version, or free?
#2653 [23:10] <thunderbite> free
#2654 [23:10] <mib_q7qxfx> Hw do I get to the adress bar and the IRC Channel?
#2655 [23:10] <xales> mib_q7qxfx: The address bar is in your browser...this is the IRC channel.
#2656 [23:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> avg sucks =/
#2657 [23:10] <thunderbite> norton sucks
#2658 [23:11] <mib_q7qxfx> rofl srry
#2659 [23:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> eset is good as far as security software goes
#2660 [23:11] * nekronuke_ high-fives xales
#2660 [23:11] <thunderbite> ooh, Fatal Error (4)
#2661 [23:11] <xales> thunderbite: hmm, AVG isn't really known to cause any problems when it's disabled...
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#2663 [23:11] <xales> thunderbite: do you have any other firewall-type software installed/
#2664 [23:11] <Kealper> if you've got a real copy (as in not stolen copy) of Windows Vista or Windows 7, i'd suggest Microsoft Security Essentials
#2665 [23:11] <nekronuke_> cant stand default nicks
#2666 [23:11] <mib_ir6zyl> mac OS Lion, game wont launch, help!
#2667 [23:12] <Kealper> mib_ir6zyl: has it worked before?
#2668 [23:12] <thunderbite> nope
#2669 [23:12] <thunderbite> just the default windows firewall
#2670 [23:12] <mib_q7qxfx> How do I get to my Borwser? Sorry, I have never doon this before
#2671 [23:12] <mib_ir6zyl> no
#2672 [23:12] <mib_ir6zyl> new install
#2673 [23:12] <nekronuke_> ...
#2674 [23:12] <xales> thunderbite: ask Kealper, he's our resident Windows person :p
#2675 [23:12] <Kealper> dowhat
#2676 [23:12] <nekronuke_> mib_q7qxfx, thats your internet
#2677 [23:12] <nekronuke_> >_>
#2678 [23:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> <_>
#2679 [23:12] <Scott> xales was just talking about your sinful activities, Kealper
#2680 [23:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol
#2681 [23:13] <xales> yeah! sinner!
#2682 [23:13] <Kealper> oh, crap
#2683 [23:13] <thunderbite> yay windows...
#2684 [23:13] <mib_q7qxfx> ------------------
#2685 [23:13] <Kealper> i told you not to tell anyone ;_;
#2686 [23:13] <Scott> Too late
#2687 [23:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> cookies?
#2688 [23:13] <mib_ir6zyl> focus people!
#2689 [23:13] <Kealper> anywho...
#2690 [23:13] <Kealper> thunderbite: what's up?
#2691 [23:13] <Scott> We told the whole world that you can't stay out from under ballmers desk.
#2692 [23:13] <Kealper> :<
#2693 [23:14] <nekronuke_> bahaha
#2694 [23:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol
#2695 [23:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> winnar
#2696 [23:14] <mib_q7qxfx> http://mibpaste.com/XuHMDT
#2697 [23:14] <mib_ir6zyl> any ideas on why mac os 10.7.2 won't allow the game to launch? gets to 29% and fails, did force update, reinstalled, no luck
#2698 [23:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> nice quit message
#2699 [23:15] <Scott> How did you reinstall?
#2700 [23:15] <mib_ir6zyl> moved to trash, redownloaded
#2701 [23:15] <Scott> moved what to trash?
#2702 [23:15] <Scott> the .app file?
#2703 [23:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> if you say the exe
#2704 [23:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> or app
#2705 [23:15] <Scott> (or folder, really)
#2706 [23:15] <mib_ir6zyl> the app file
#2707 [23:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> ima kill you
#2708 [23:15] <mib_ir6zyl> folder
#2709 [23:15] * WhereIsMySpoon kills mib_ir6zyl
#2709 [23:15] <Scott> Okay.
#2710 [23:15] <Scott> ??> mib_ir6zyl mac/reinst
#2711 [23:15] <VoxelHead> mib_ir6zyl: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2712 [23:15] <VoxelHead> mib_ir6zyl: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2713 [23:16] <Scott> do that :P
#2714 [23:16] * TheOneWithNoName_AKA_TOWNN kills the room
#2714 [23:16] <mib_q7qxfx> http://mibpaste.com/XuHMDT
#2715 [23:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??> mib_q7qxfx only/you
#2716 [23:16] <VoxelHead> mib_q7qxfx: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#2717 [23:16] <VoxelHead> mib_q7qxfx: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#2718 [23:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> that isnt exactly what i meant
#2719 [23:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> but dont repaste stuff over and over again
#2720 [23:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> wait your turn
#2721 [23:17] <mib_q7qxfx> VoxelHead http://mibpaste.com/XuHMDT
#2722 [23:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> voxelhead is a bot
#2723 [23:19] <thunderbite> YES!
#2724 [23:19] <thunderbite> xales thank you
#2725 [23:19] <mib_q7qxfx> ...
#2726 [23:19] <thunderbite> now to figure out which firewall is not allowing it
#2727 [23:20] <thunderbite> xales thanks anyway
#2728 [23:20] <thunderbite> bye!
#2729 [23:20] <xales> thunderbite: If you have more than one...you really don't need more than one
#2730 [23:20] <xales> ..nevemind
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#2732 [23:20] <Scott> mib_ir6zyl: got it fixed?
#2733 [23:21] <mib_ir6zyl> cant find library-i know everyone can laugh now
#2734 [23:21] <mib_ir6zyl> new to mac
#2735 [23:21] <Scott> Open finder
#2736 [23:22] <Scott> press command + shift + g
#2737 [23:22] <mib_q7qxfx> Hello?
#2738 [23:22] <Scott> and then type: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft in the pop up
#2739 [23:22] <mib_ir6zyl> is it case sensitive cause it didn't pop up
#2740 [23:22] <xales> mib_q7qxfx: Again, we can't provide any support for Classic.
#2741 [23:23] <mib_q7qxfx> Ok, thanks...
#2742 [23:23] <mib_q7qxfx> Adios
#2743 [23:24] <Scott> mib_ir6zyl: Are you sure you pressed all of those keys at once while you were in Finder?
#2744 [23:25] <Scott> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9631803/Screenshots/-9d6.png
#2745 [23:25] <Scott> it should look like this
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#2747 [23:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> night :)
#2748 [23:32] <xales> Scott: ragequit
#2749 [23:32] <xales> HOW DO I PUSH BUTTONS??????
#2750 [23:32] <xales> HOW DO I PUSH BUTTONS??????
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#2753 [23:37] <ruff> Hi i have a question if anyone can help.. :)
#2754 [23:37] <ruff> is it possible to buy 2 minecraft with the same visa card?
#2755 [23:38] <ruff> or do we have to wait 6 hours before my friend can play? :<
#2756 [23:43] <flitch> anyone know how to make group-format work in essentials chat?
#2757 [23:43] <flitch> it only uses the format: line
#2758 [23:45] <|Kiichan|> flitch: ask in #bukkit
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#2761 [23:58] <sprocket> Trying to help my 10YO here - he had minecraft on my mac - now has his own and we've copied his saves over to his mac. When he opens MC on his computer it doesn't see his previous worlds - none there at all. how can he access these old creations.?
#2762 [23:58] <\a> sprocket: make sure they're in the right folder
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#2764 [23:59] <sprocket> MC is in apps, the saves folder is in apps but I can't add it to the app as such. where should it be (feeling a bit dumb here........)