#1 [00:00] <\a> the new computer is a mac right?
#2 [00:01] <sprocket> yep
#3 [00:01] <\a> put the saves folder in the same place it was on the old one
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#5 [00:02] <sprocket> Ok - we'll check and give it a go. Think it was in Library...
#6 [00:02] <peeves> how long does it take to get the game after you buy it
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#8 [00:02] <\a> there should be an empty folder called saves already there
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#10 [00:03] <\a> delete that and replace it with the old one
#11 [00:03] <\a> peeves: what is your account name
#12 [00:03] <zkxs> peeves: It depends on how you paid, and if the transaction actually completed. But it can take a day or so.
#13 [00:04] <peeves> hunter1221f
#14 [00:04] <\a> ugh all the paid bots are gone
#15 [00:05] <\a> peeves: did you pay with a credit card
#16 [00:05] <peeves> yes
#17 [00:05] <\a> it hasnt gone through yet, so call the card company and ask if the transaction was stopped or delayed
#18 [00:05] <\a> it happens a lot
#19 [00:05] <peeves> ok thanks
#20 [00:07] <zkxs> \a: due to the lack of bots, I went and added a /paid command to my xchat :)
#21 [00:07] <zkxs> ^G? \a?
#22 [00:08] <\a> zkxs: bell characters
#23 [00:08] <zkxs> I remember ^G from my XP days :)
#24 [00:09] <\a> \a is the c++ escape sequence and ^G is the ascii escape sequence
#25 [00:09] <\a> as you remember
#26 [00:10] <frogonia> Hello I tried buying Minecraft a few times using the Visa option. I have a PrePaid Wal-Mart debit card and after the last try it says I need to wait 24 hours bla bla bla. Comes to find out you don't accept those cards and will have to use PayPal and it still wouldn't let me do it. I have 30 USD on the card and it said the transaction couldn't be completed.
#27 [00:10] <\a> prepaid cards dont usually work
#28 [00:10] <frogonia> so my question is if i have to wait 24 hours with the normal pay options will it carry over to paypal
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#30 [00:11] <frogonia> so is that the reason?
#31 [00:11] <\a> im not sure. in my knowledge nobody has ever been double charged
#32 [00:11] <\a> try waiting the time
#33 [00:11] <frogonia> aaaah :( haha
#34 [00:12] <frogonia> so you believe the 24 hour wait on the Visa pay option could be what is making the PayPal option not work
#35 [00:12] <\a> im not sure.
#36 [00:13] <\a> I paid with paypal and it was immediate
#37 [00:13] <frogonia> ok thank you for your time i will try again with paypal in 24 hours :)
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#39 [00:15] <montezuma> hi my minecraft only works on the website
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#41 [00:16] <zkxs> Wug /a , as your server is down, do you need a copy of your MCH-Launcher.jar? I luckily snatched one before it went offline.
#42 [00:17] <zkxs> *cough cough* I mean \a
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#44 [00:18] <elmosworld> how do i fix black screen
#45 [00:18] <nekronuke_> we need more info than thst
#46 [00:18] <nekronuke_> what caused it, do you know/.'
#47 [00:19] <nekronuke_> mods, or what?
#48 [00:19] <\a> zkxs: I use it as an everyday launcher on all of my computers so I have a backup copy
#49 [00:19] <\a> or 5
#50 [00:19] <nekronuke_> also, system specs
#51 [00:19] <elmosworld> i mess23 45 678 901234567 890
#52 [00:19] <zkxs> lol, mkay
#53 [00:19] <\a> nekronuke_: its probably either mods or the ! issue
#54 [00:19] <\a> elmosworld: has it ever worked before
#55 [00:19] <nekronuke_> ! issue?
#56 [00:19] <\a> nekronuke_: ! in windows username. java bug
#57 [00:20] <\a> or just leave. see if that helps
#58 [00:20] <\a> nekronuke_: java fails to properly manage files if the pathname has a ! in it
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#60 [00:20] <\a> nekronuke__: java fails to properly manage files if the pathname has a ! in it
#61 [00:21] <nekronuke__> oh
#62 [00:21] <\a> its almost always the windows username that causes it
#63 [00:21] <\a> its almost always the windows username that causes it
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#65 [00:21] <\a> nekronuke__: also /ns regain is your friend
#66 [00:21] <nekronuke__> oh, he's on here is he
#67 [00:21] <nekronuke__> he isnt my BNC D:. he's a ghoooost
#68 [00:21] <\a> ns regain it
#69 [00:22] <nekronuke__> its not regged :D
#70 [00:22] <\a> nekronuke__: reggify it
#71 [00:22] <nekronuke__> you could kick it, or await a pingout
#72 [00:23] <sprocket> Thanks for your help - all fixed. Happy kid happy mum..........
#73 [00:24] <\a> sprocket: np
#74 [00:24] <\a> nekronuke__: it died
#75 [00:24] <\a> also kicking it obviously wont free the nick
#76 [00:25] <nekronuke__> i know
#77 [00:25] <nekro> there
#78 [00:25] <nekro> reg'd nick
#79 [00:25] <nekro> so i can regain/ghost this
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#83 [00:45] <Allison> Allison is not a registered nickname
#84 [00:45] <Allison> ??
#85 [00:45] <Allison> weird.
#86 [00:46] <xales> Allison: I'm guessing you last used it more than 30 days ago? :p
#87 [00:46] <Allison> xales, yes
#88 [00:46] <Allison> Do I have to re-register?
#89 [00:46] <xales> they expire after 30 days
#90 [00:47] <xales> so, yes
#91 [00:47] <Allison> ah okay
#92 [00:47] <xales> (you can set vacation mode if you plan to be gone longer, but identifying unsets it)
#93 [00:51] <\a> 30 days seems short
#94 [00:52] <\a> why isnt it something like 90
#95 [00:52] <TheNoodle> It is for vacation
#96 [00:53] <Allison> Za
#97 [00:54] <Allison> 30 days is short.
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#99 [01:06] <xales> \a: vacation mode.
#100 [01:06] <xales> derp.
#101 [01:06] <xales> \a: (which, as it happens, sets it to 90 days)
#102 [01:06] <xales> anyway
#103 [01:07] * xales goes elsewhere for a while
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#106 [01:34] <langkid1> grr
#107 [01:34] <langkid1> plugins.bukkit.org is down >:|
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#110 [01:44] <mib_diks6e> hi
#111 [01:45] <langkid1> hi
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#114 [01:52] <BOBBROWN> i have a question
#115 [01:53] <BOBBROWN> can some body help me
#116 [01:53] <Chr|s> BOBBROWN: Instead of stating that you have a question to ask, just ask the question. You wont get help unless you do :)
#117 [01:55] <BOBBROWN> i try to play minecraft through my browser and its really slow and i wont to know what do i need to do so it wont be slow
#118 [01:58] <\a> try the downloadable client
#119 [01:58] <Chr|s> It could be your processor and memory and possibly your Graphics Card.
#120 [01:58] <Pix> try the downloadable client first >.>
#121 [01:58] <Chr|s> don't think their will be much difference
#122 [01:59] <Chr|s> BOBBROWN: also try not to have a lot of programs running all at once helps too
#123 [01:59] <\a> Chr|s: browsers are usually resource hogs
#124 [01:59] <BOBBROWN> i just play for fun so i dont have to pay because i dont have any money to buy the game right now
#125 [01:59] <\a> hence the download client
#126 [01:59] <\a> oh, you're using classic
#127 [01:59] <\a> try updating your video card drivers
#128 [02:00] <\a> thats about all we can recommend
#129 [02:00] <BOBBROWN> yea classic and how do i update my video card drivers
#130 [02:02] <\a> ?? win/dxdiag
#131 [02:02] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#132 [02:02] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#133 [02:06] <BOBBROWN> after i hit submit what link do i copy
#134 [02:08] <Chr|s> BOBBROWN: the only link in the address bar after you clicked submit
#135 [02:08] <Chr|s> like it says :D
#136 [02:09] <BOBBROWN> do i have to creat an account to post it
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#140 [02:21] <Chr|s> BOBBROWN: no you do not
#141 [02:22] <Chr|s> After you submit the code as the text above tells you too, you copy the link from the address bar...just like what the text above tells you to do
#142 [02:22] <Chr|s> and you paste it here
#143 [02:22] <BOBBROWN> http://pastebin.com/24pmYfaZ
#144 [02:22] <BOBBROWN> like this
#145 [02:22] <Chr|s> Correct :)
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#147 [02:23] <mib_395ba0> I'd like to understand why my game goes black screen right after the loading page, then after about 2 minutes it goes white and stays that way
#148 [02:25] <mib_395ba0> anybody know?
#149 [02:27] <Chr|s> try updating your java
#150 [02:27] <mib_395ba0> already did
#151 [02:28] <mib_395ba0> any other suggestion?
#152 [02:28] <Chr|s> sun or openjdk?
#153 [02:30] <Chr|s> mib_395ba0: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=minecraft+blank+screen+fix+2011
#154 [02:33] <mib_395ba0> thanks
#155 [02:34] <mib_395ba0> btw what is sun or openjdk?
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#157 [02:35] <kleinebaas> Is there any way to uninstall "The ! workaround" ?
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#159 [02:35] <Xubuntu> hi
#160 [02:35] <kleinebaas> Is there any way to uninstall "The ! workaround" ?
#161 [02:36] <Xubuntu> i have a question about modded xubuntu jar file
#162 [02:38] <Xubuntu> My server runs just fine normally on 82.32.116.135:25565
#163 [02:38] <mib_395ba0> ok, so what about for multiplayer whith the downloaded minecraft, when it lets you login, then it sais "failed to login" giving you the option to "try again" or to "play offline" yes I have bought the game
#164 [02:39] <Xubuntu> but when I put the planes mod on the Jar file, it says the file is corrupted. Can I download a working Modded Jar file to try out?
#165 [02:39] <kleinebaas> mib_395ba0: did you included mc in your firewall exceptions?
#166 [02:39] <mib_395ba0> have you deleted meta inf?
#167 [02:39] <Xubuntu> yes I deleted meta
#168 [02:40] <kleinebaas> so you have installed: modloader, modloaderMP, turbo model thingy and planes.
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#170 [02:40] <mib_395ba0> I dont have firewall
#171 [02:40] <kleinebaas> oh well
#172 [02:40] <kleinebaas> are you using windows?
#173 [02:40] <Xubuntu> yups thats what i have done
#174 [02:40] <mib_395ba0> yes
#175 [02:40] <Xubuntu> but im running linux
#176 [02:40] <kleinebaas> xubuntu: try using a mod maneger, like MyCraft.
#177 [02:41] <Xubuntu> is that for xubuntu/linux?
#178 [02:41] <kleinebaas> ow, thats a good question lemme see
#179 [02:42] <kleinebaas> you can run it from a .jar, so i'd say "yes"
#180 [02:42] <kleinebaas> http://www.frustra.org/myc/MyCraft.zip
#181 [02:42] <Xubuntu> nice one Mr Kleine
#182 [02:42] <Xubuntu> want to come see the server?
#183 [02:43] <kleinebaas> maybe later; im trying to burn some cd's
#184 [02:43] <Xubuntu> 82.32.116.135:25565
#185 [02:43] <Xubuntu> ok
#186 [02:43] <Xubuntu> its in test phase
#187 [02:43] <kleinebaas> ill write it down; my minecraft doesnt work right now too :S
#188 [02:45] <mib_395ba0> so, what about my MP problems?
#189 [02:45] <kleinebaas> ...sorry, what was it? :S
#190 [02:45] <kleinebaas> oh yeah, login problems right?
#191 [02:45] <mib_395ba0> how can you fail to login but you can still play offline
#192 [02:45] <mib_395ba0> yes
#193 [02:46] <kleinebaas> when mc fails to connect, but has downloaded, it says "play offline"
#194 [02:46] <kleinebaas> I don't know how to fix it.
#195 [02:46] <mib_395ba0> ok
#196 [02:46] <kleinebaas> try using the illegal launcher; that one doesnt have login problems but you can still unput a name.
#197 [02:46] <kleinebaas> there are plenty of youtube vids where you can download it.
#198 [02:46] <mib_395ba0> could it be in the .minecraft folder, the answer?
#199 [02:47] <mib_395ba0> not quite wanting to download an illegal launcher if its ok?
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#201 [02:48] <kleinebaas> no, it is your internet connection or a program that stops minecraft from connecting to the internet. I'd say, if you've buyed minecraft, then you'd be able to download the illegal launcher too
#202 [02:48] * xales kicked kleinebaas from #minecrafthelp (Reason: leinebaas :Don't recommend those things here.)
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#204 [02:48] <kleinebaas> sorry :S
#205 [02:49] * VoxelHead kicked kleinebaas from #minecrafthelp (Reason: leinebaas :Banned: We don't like people who encourage others to use illegal versions of Minecraft.)
#206 [02:50] <xales> mib_395ba0: If it sas "LOGIN FAILED" in red letters, it means your username or password is incorrect.
#207 [02:50] <mib_395ba0> well he did say he was sorry
#208 [02:51] <mib_395ba0> kleinebaas should be unbanned, he is helpful, and understood his mistake
#209 [02:51] <xales> mib_395ba0: Don't worry about it.
#210 [02:52] <Xubuntu> klienebass was the most useful person on here
#211 [02:53] <xales> Xubuntu: Newsflash: he joined approx. 2 second before you did.
#212 [02:54] <mib_395ba0> oh, yes my password was wrong, but how do I send the password to my e-mail?
#213 [02:54] <xales> ??> mib_395ba0 resetpass
#214 [02:54] <xales> bah
#215 [02:55] <xales> ??> mib_395ba0 forgotpass
#216 [02:55] <xales> :| sorry, ignore that
#217 [02:55] <xales> ??> mib_395ba0 mc.net/password
#218 [02:55] <VoxelHead> mib_395ba0: (mc.net/password) To change your password, log into http://www.minecraft.net, and then go here: http://www.minecraft.net/profile/password
#219 [02:55] <mib_395ba0> do I have to sign out to get that option/
#220 [02:55] <xales> there we go.
#221 [02:55] <mib_395ba0> ?
#222 [02:55] <xales> ooor...maybe not
#223 [02:55] <xales> mib_395ba0: yes, you do
#224 [02:55] <xales> mib_395ba0: on the sign in page, click 'forgot password'
#225 [02:58] <mib_395ba0> thanks
#226 [02:59] <mib_395ba0> Now, could you please unbann kleinebaas?
#227 [02:59] <xales> 1: It's really none of your business who I do and don't ban
#228 [02:59] <xales> 2: He was already unbanned
#229 [02:59] <xales> ._.
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#231 [03:03] <mib_395ba0> 1: sorry, but I believe he was helpful, and got in trouble trying to help me 2: voxelhead had banned him after you, or maybe just kicked 3: I'm sorry but the message was not meant for you, I'm sorry you had misunderstood me
#232 [03:06] <mib_395ba0> btw I very much enjoy our ability to change colour
#233 [03:07] <mib_395ba0> http://www.hahayouactually fellforit.com/multiplayer
#234 [03:07] <mib_395ba0> http://www.hahayouactuallyfellforit.com/multiplayer
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#236 [03:41] <Xubuntu> quick question
#237 [03:41] <Xubuntu> for Linux
#238 [03:41] <Xubuntu> Have downloaded minecrafter
#239 [03:42] <Xubuntu> so have the .jar and unpacked
#240 [03:42] <Xubuntu> so how do i get the minecrafter program to load?
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#242 [03:43] <Xubuntu> wheres Mr Kleine when you need him
#243 [03:46] <Xubuntu> So Saturday morning.. and the one useful person on here has been permabanned for giving caution about downloading software
#244 [03:47] <Xubuntu> genius.
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#246 [03:49] <mib_395ba0> yep, sorry, sorta my fault, not for the banning but for the help he tried to give me
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#248 [03:53] <Xubuntu> not your fault mib.. just poor chat admin.
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#250 [03:55] <rouge_killer97> Hello i have hosted a minecrfat server for awhile a sent the computer to have a power suppky fixed when i got the machine back i report forwarded the settings back to nromal and now i get cnnection refused:connect when i connect
#251 [03:55] <rouge_killer97> minecrfat*
#252 [03:55] <rouge_killer97> minecraft* -.-
#253 [03:55] <rouge_killer97> tell ya what i cbf correcting all that xD
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#255 [04:03] <rouge_killer97> solved it randomly xD missed one number ffs
#256 [04:06] <mib_395ba0> good
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#258 [04:07] <rouge_killer97> anybody know a really good custon software for classic servers?
#259 [04:07] <rouge_killer97> other than mcforge ect
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#264 [04:37] <gartral> I'm stuck, i'm on Ubuntu 11.10 and i installed java7, when i login to minecraft i get http://pastie.org/3142264
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#267 [04:43] <mib_st4vdi> Hey i have a questions
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#270 [04:47] <mib_st4vdi> can i buy the game this weekend and get it now, or do you pull money first on Monday
#271 [04:48] <tyteen4a03> ??> mib_st4vdi payment
#272 [04:48] <VoxelHead> mib_st4vdi: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#273 [04:48] <VoxelHead> mib_st4vdi: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#274 [04:49] <mib_st4vdi> i have waited a hole day ?
#275 [04:50] <tyteen4a03> mib_st4vdi: Are you saying that you have purchased Minecraft and waited for a whole day, but Mojang hasn't sent you any email yet?
#276 [04:51] <mib_st4vdi> yes
#277 [04:51] <tyteen4a03> mib_st4vdi: Can you check if the payment has hit the bank? Also, what payment provider are you using?
#278 [04:52] <mib_st4vdi> de har ikke trukket noget fra min konto
#279 [04:52] <mib_st4vdi> they have not pulled anything from my account
#280 [04:52] <tyteen4a03> bank account?
#281 [04:53] <mib_st4vdi> yes.
#282 [04:53] <mib_st4vdi> the payment has not hit my bank account
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#284 [04:53] <tyteen4a03> mib_st4vdi: What payment provider are you using? Examples include PayPal, MoneyBookers and Credit Cards.
#285 [04:54] <mib_st4vdi> credit card
#286 [04:54] <tyteen4a03> mib_st4vdi: And your credit card provider is? Examples include VISA, MasterCard and American Express.
#287 [04:55] <mib_st4vdi> visa
#288 [04:55] <tyteen4a03> mib_st4vdi: Was there any error messages when you purchase Minecraft?
#289 [04:57] <mib_st4vdi> there was something extra security but it shook me to disconnect, and it simply says: thanks for Buying mincraft ......
#290 [04:59] <tyteen4a03> mib_st4vdi: There's a chance that the payment did not went through sucessfully, I suggest that you call up your bank to see if they have received the payment instruction, if not, buy again via PayPal (it has been known to have less problems)
#291 [05:00] <mib_st4vdi> i have called my bank and there was no payment instruction
#292 [05:01] <mib_st4vdi> pulling in such money once more if it went through before
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#294 [05:06] <mib_st4vdi> pulling in such money once more if it went through before
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#296 [05:07] <tyteen4a03> mib_st4vdi: Use paypal this time
#297 [05:07] <mib_st4vdi> okay thanks. :)
#298 [05:07] <tyteen4a03> no problem
#299 [05:08] <Deadkilldude> What are the specs to run Minecraft
#300 [05:08] <tyteen4a03> ??> Deadkilldude requirement/lessrude
#301 [05:08] <tyteen4a03> oof
#302 [05:08] <gartral> I'm stuck, i'm on Ubuntu 11.10 and i installed java7, when i login to minecraft i get http://pastie.org/3142264
#303 [05:09] <tyteen4a03> gartral: Firstly, do not use java 7
#304 [05:09] <tyteen4a03> Deadkilldude: At least 2GB or RAM, and a decent graphics card
#305 [05:09] <Deadkilldude> Thank you.
#306 [05:09] <Deadkilldude> I got to go now. Bye.
#307 [05:09] <tyteen4a03> bye
#308 [05:10] <tyteen4a03> gartral: I am looking at your error
#309 [05:10] <gartral> tyteen4a03: thanks
#310 [05:11] <tyteen4a03> gartral: It shows that some of the files are missing. Try reinstalling minecraft
#311 [05:11] <tyteen4a03> ??> gartral linux/reinst
#312 [05:11] <VoxelHead> gartral: (linux/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#313 [05:11] <VoxelHead> gartral: (linux/reinst) To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#314 [05:11] <tyteen4a03> ??< linux/reinst/sh
#315 [05:12] <gartral> tyteen4a03: it works with openjdk 6, I have both installed, when i run it with oracle-java-7 it gives that error.
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#317 [05:12] <tyteen4a03> gartral: Java 7 has been known to have issues with Minecraft, because of its API changes
#318 [05:12] <gartral> tyteen4a03: understood
#319 [05:15] <gartral> tyteen4a03: thank you for looking into it
#320 [05:15] <tyteen4a03> gartral: No problem :)
#321 [05:16] <gartral> tyteen4a03: ruan in #minecraft just pointed me too a possible easy solution
#322 [05:17] <tyteen4a03> gartral: Whcih is?
#323 [05:17] <tyteen4a03> *which
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#330 [05:53] <kleinebaa5> I'm sorry for what happened recently, is it possible to get unbanned? It won't happen agin.
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#332 [05:54] <kleinebaa5> ...please?
#333 [05:55] <kleinebaa5> I beg you. If I'm banned, I can't ask for help. Since my minecraft broke too :S
#334 [05:57] <kleinebaa5> ...please answer me...
#335 [05:57] <tyteen4a03> kleinebaa5:Ｂ門及？
#336 [05:57] <tyteen4a03> oops
#337 [05:57] <kleinebaa5> yeah?
#338 [05:57] <tyteen4a03> kleinebaa5: Banned?
#339 [05:58] <kleinebaa5> yup
#340 [05:58] <tyteen4a03> from where?
#341 [05:58] <kleinebaa5> my laptop
#342 [05:58] <kleinebaa5> ...but I don't know my IP :S
#343 [05:58] <kleinebaa5> and I'm using my friends pc
#344 [05:59] <tyteen4a03> kleinebaa5: What do you mean? You want to unban yourself from the server that runs on your laptop?
#345 [05:59] <kleinebaa5> no, my laptop is banned from this IRC
#346 [05:59] <kleinebaa5> For recommending something I shouldn
#347 [05:59] <kleinebaa5> t
#348 [06:01] <kleinebaa5> hmm
#349 [06:01] <kleinebaa5> well, in the meantime ill just try to help people with problems =)
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#351 [06:02] <tyteen4a03> kleinbaa5: You will have to wait for an op.
#352 [06:02] <tyteen4a03> kleinebaa5: In the meantime I recommend you to leave, since you are currently trying to evade your ban
#353 [06:02] <kleinebaa5> ok
#354 [06:02] <kleinebaa5> bai :)
#355 [06:09] <gartral> tyteen4a03: sorry for the delay. the fix was too add export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle too my ./.bashrc
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#358 [06:17] <kleinebaa5> umm, I know i shouldnt be here, but if theres an operator, could someone say I'm sorry and ask to get unbanned?
#359 [06:18] <kleinebaa5> ...no one agin?
#360 [06:18] <kleinebaa5> please? someone?
#361 [06:19] <kleinebaa5> ill wait idle until someone replies :/
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#368 [06:47] <der_huebi> german supporter ???
#369 [06:50] <tyteen4a03> kleinebaa5: The best way to say you're sorry is to stay out of this channel and talk to the operator who banned you by query
#370 [06:52] <tyteen4a03> gartral: Ah, adding java to the path. It only solves the first bit however.
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#372 [06:55] <gartral> tyteen4a03: I discovered that..
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#374 [06:57] <huebi> hi
#375 [06:59] <huebi> where can I find help. My problem is that I'm not a premium version despite purchased
#376 [06:59] <TheNoodle> ??> huebi payment
#377 [06:59] <VoxelHead> huebi: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#378 [06:59] <VoxelHead> huebi: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#379 [07:01] <gartral> huebi: it can take quite some time. I had too wait around 2 hours
#380 [07:01] <huebi> I paid for christmas. but to this day, unfortunately not the right one. have already written to the email but no answer comes
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#382 [07:05] <mib_vthj21> i am trying to play minecraft and it goes to launch, and then shuts down
#383 [07:07] <huebi> java eror?
#384 [07:07] <huebi> error -.-*
#385 [07:08] <mib_vthj21> I don't know it just disappeared
#386 [07:08] <huebi> so without error message?
#387 [07:09] <mib_vthj21> nothing, it just shut itself down
#388 [07:09] <huebi> pc restarts?
#389 [07:10] <huebi> after installation
#390 [07:10] <mib_vthj21> no the game just shuts down
#391 [07:10] <mib_vthj21> should I restart the pc or reinstall the game?
#392 [07:12] <huebi> yes. first restart and when you have this error ^^ reinstall it ^^
#393 [07:12] <mib_vthj21> thanks!
#394 [07:12] <huebi> no problem
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#407 [07:40] <mib_y8k7z8> hi
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#409 [07:42] <mib_y8k7z8> in mincraft louncer I can not log in to go online. What can be wrong? I bought the game on the internet for 19,95 pounds and I thought I got a premium access.
#410 [07:42] <crafter> every time i click on somethink to make a block it just make 2 things
#411 [07:43] <crafter> when did you buy the game
#412 [07:43] <mib_y8k7z8> 3 weeks ago
#413 [07:43] <crafter> has it ever worked
#414 [07:44] <mib_y8k7z8> yes
#415 [07:44] <peru> did you buy from minecraft.net or other website
#416 [07:44] <mib_y8k7z8> but I would like to play online with my friends
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#418 [07:44] <mib_y8k7z8> I bought it from mincraft.net
#419 [07:45] <crafter> peru when i make a block 2 come up or 3 most of the time not one can i fix it ?
#420 [07:46] <AureliusM> mib_y8k7z8: is the error "Cannot connect to minecraft.net"? If not, what error are you seeing?
#421 [07:46] <mib_y8k7z8> how can I verify that I am a premium player
#422 [07:47] <AureliusM> mib_y8k7z8: to verify goto http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user= and add your playername to the end of the URL
#423 [07:48] <AureliusM> mib_y8k7z8: For example this verifies Honeydew has paid: http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=Honeydew
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#425 [07:49] <AureliusM> mib_y8k7z8: what changed on your system since you were able to login with the minecraft launcher?
#426 [07:51] <mib_y8k7z8> ok my username is baldurreykdal and when i put my name after = nothing happens
#427 [07:51] <AureliusM> mib_y8k7z8: baldurreykdal comes up as not paid, is that the correct spelling?
#428 [07:51] <mib_y8k7z8> I have never been able to play online only offline
#429 [07:52] <mib_y8k7z8> yes that is correct
#430 [07:52] <mib_y8k7z8> and my password is baldur1110
#431 [07:52] <AureliusM> mib_y8k7z8: so you have never connected? But you believe you have paid? Did money leave your account?
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#433 [07:53] <mib_y8k7z8> yes
#434 [07:53] <AureliusM> mib_y8k7z8: I've opened a private chat with you
#435 [07:53] <DDark> I started a classic server yesterday there are ppl playing in there but i only get failed to connect why?
#436 [07:54] <mib_y8k7z8> ok
#437 [07:54] <AureliusM> Any chat mods or admin here?
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#439 [07:55] <mib_y8k7z8> i don't think so
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#441 [07:55] <goyienoob> when i make a block 2 of 3 come up insted of 1 or when i delit them can i fix this
#442 [07:55] <goyienoob> ????
#443 [07:57] <AureliusM> mib_y8k7z8: please see your chat window. For account issues you should go to http://www.minecraft.net/support
#444 [07:58] <goyienoob> whats my chat window
#445 [07:58] <mib_y8k7z8> what is my chat window
#446 [07:59] <AureliusM> ??> mib_y8k7z8 pm
#447 [07:59] <VoxelHead> mib_y8k7z8: (pm) Private messages, or PM's, are sent from one person to another directly, and prevent the main chat from getting clogged.
#448 [07:59] <VoxelHead> mib_y8k7z8: (pm) PM's appear, in Mibbit, in tabs on the upper left, labelled by the nickname of the sender.
#449 [08:00] <mib_y8k7z8> ok
#450 [08:00] <AureliusM> goyienoob: that message was for someone else. Your problem is when you place a block, more than one get placed?
#451 [08:01] <goyienoob> there was nothing on it in account issues
#452 [08:02] <AureliusM> goyienoob: usually multi clicking is caused by the mouse or its driver. Sometimes really old machines with XP, or certain Mac mouses have this problem.
#453 [08:02] <naaru> I have Intel core i7 (quad core) nvidia gt540m and 4 gb RAM but my minecraft runs terribly bad with low fps and lags spikes (i have autosave set on 3min). I tried almost everything (defrag., registry mechanics, allocating more ram, ram disc, playing on fast and short ).
#454 [08:02] <goyienoob> yes
#455 [08:02] <naaru> So please can anyone help me ?
#456 [08:02] <AureliusM> ?? goyienoob only/you
#457 [08:03] <AureliusM> ??> goyienoob only/you
#458 [08:03] <goyienoob> what
#459 [08:03] <VoxelHead> goyienoob: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#460 [08:03] <VoxelHead> goyienoob: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#461 [08:04] <goyienoob> ok i get in
#462 [08:04] <AureliusM> goyienoob: sorry, I typoed there. Please tell us which machine and which mouse you are using.
#463 [08:05] <goyienoob> windows 7 intel i3 4gb ram logic wireless opticle mouse
#464 [08:05] <goyienoob> AureliusM is that what you needed
#465 [08:05] <AureliusM> goyienoob: do you get the same problem with a wired mouse?
#466 [08:06] <goyienoob> i only have one must but i will try with my laptop pad and then tell you
#467 [08:07] <goyienoob> yes it dose it with my laptop pad allso
#468 [08:07] <naaru> Please , can you help me with this ?
#469 [08:07] <AureliusM> goyienoob: have you installed the latest Java 6? If not, first uninstall all java and then install Java 6. Instructions will follow.
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#471 [08:08] <naaru> yes , i have :(
#472 [08:09] <AureliusM> goyienoob: to uninstall java see http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp
#473 [08:09] <mib_y8k7z8> is my account ok or not username baldurreykdal password baldr1110
#474 [08:09] <naaru> i have done all what is possible
#475 [08:09] <mib_y8k7z8> password baldur1110
#476 [08:10] <AureliusM> mib_y8k7z8: please see you private chat window!
#477 [08:10] <mib_y8k7z8> i can play singleplayer but not online
#478 [08:10] <AureliusM> ??> mib_y8k7z8 pm
#479 [08:10] <VoxelHead> mib_y8k7z8: (pm) Private messages, or PM's, are sent from one person to another directly, and prevent the main chat from getting clogged.
#480 [08:10] <VoxelHead> mib_y8k7z8: (pm) PM's appear, in Mibbit, in tabs on the upper left, labelled by the nickname of the sender.
#481 [08:11] <naaru> yes i know how to unninstall java, i also have the newest graphic driver
#482 [08:11] <AureliusM> ??> naaru only/you
#483 [08:11] <VoxelHead> naaru: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#484 [08:11] <VoxelHead> naaru: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#485 [08:12] <goyienoob> ok how do you uninstall java
#486 [08:12] <AureliusM> naaru: I have not looked at your question until now, I was dealing with others here. But first check your graphics card driver is up to date and supports Open GL 1.5
#487 [08:12] <AureliusM> goyienoob: to uninstall java see http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp
#488 [08:12] <goyienoob> i think i have java 7
#489 [08:13] <AureliusM> goyienoob: please follow the instructions I have posted, then install Java 6
#490 [08:13] <goyienoob> ok i will
#491 [08:13] <naaru> i have written that i have the newest graphic driver
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#493 [08:14] <naaru> and i should support OpenGL 1, or not ? how can i check it ?
#494 [08:14] <naaru> 1,5*
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#496 [08:15] <AureliusM> ??> naaru win/dxdiag
#497 [08:15] <VoxelHead> naaru: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#498 [08:15] <VoxelHead> naaru: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#499 [08:16] <jboy> minecraft wont work in browser. got latest java still wont work
#500 [08:16] <AureliusM> naaru: the dxdiag will show the specific system specs and GPU driver details
#501 [08:16] <goyienoob> AureliusM what do i do when i have uninstalled them
#502 [08:16] <naaru> And my old PC with intel celeron , 1gb ram and 256 mb Ati runs it much better
#503 [08:17] <AureliusM> naaru: poor performance can be caused by many things. For example some laptops disable the advanced graphics for some programs
#504 [08:17] <goyienoob> what do i do when i have uninstalled java
#505 [08:18] <AureliusM> goyienoob: Ok, first make sure: click Start control panel and look for the Java icon
#506 [08:19] <naaru> My laptop has the optimus technology and in the nvidia control panel is by deafult set the intel gpu for minecraft but if i set the nvidia gpu, nothing changes in the game
#507 [08:19] <AureliusM> goyienoob: If there is a Java icon click it and click the Java tab and click the View button
#508 [08:19] <naaru> and in the dx diag is nothing about opengl
#509 [08:19] <goyienoob> i have got java 6 update 30
#510 [08:20] <AureliusM> naaru: check the nvidia control panel has java.exe and javaw.exe included as needing advanced graphics
#511 [08:20] <AureliusM> naaru: can you check whether the GPU is being used with minecraft? For example, a temperature monitor for the GPU should show it rising.
#512 [08:21] <AureliusM> goyienoob: good, now try launching minecraft and checking the mouse again
#513 [08:21] <goyienoob> no i allready had that i have not delitted that one
#514 [08:22] <goyienoob> sorry
#515 [08:22] <naaru> not it hasn´t , so i should set it on the nvidia gpu right ?
#516 [08:22] <AureliusM> naaru: the dxdiag gives driver details, but not that detailed, we need to get the specs from the card maker
#517 [08:22] <AureliusM> naaru: please pastebin your dxdiag log file, and post the link to it here
#518 [08:23] <naaru> sorry whats pastebin ?
#519 [08:24] <AureliusM> ??> naaru pastebin
#520 [08:24] <naaru> wait, i have set advenced graphics for java and javaw.exe
#521 [08:24] <VoxelHead> naaru: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#522 [08:25] <naaru> so i´ll try it now
#523 [08:26] <AureliusM> goyienoob: I should have emphasized you need to uninstall ALL Java runtimes first. Use the Windows Control panel to uninstall all Java first.
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#525 [08:27] <naaru> now it runs pretty smooth but i need to wait a while if it doesnt change
#526 [08:28] <AureliusM> naaru: I am a bit confused, did you mean the nvidia control panel already had java and javaw set for advanced ? Or did you just set it a few minutes ago?
#527 [08:29] <naaru> no it has set it for automatic and the automatic was intel so i set it to nvidia gpu
#528 [08:29] <AureliusM> naaru: there may be a power saving setting there that comes in when a laptop is on battery power. When I had a laptop I had to force it, but that was years ago. I use a desktop now
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#530 [08:30] <naaru> no its not on battery
#531 [08:30] <AureliusM> naaru: Ok, that sounds good. If you have a laptop, be careful as games with advanced graphics can really drain teh battery.
#532 [08:30] <goyeinoob> ok i have uninstalled ALL java software on my laptop
#533 [08:30] <goyeinoob> witch one do i now download
#534 [08:31] <AureliusM> goyienoob: Ok, good. Now go to the sun site and install the Java 6 that's correct fro your system.
#535 [08:31] <naaru> but i cant still understand one thing .. until i have et the advenced graphics for the java.exe the chunk loading was much much slower but what has gpu to do with this ? :D
#536 [08:31] <AureliusM> goyienoob: Choose the 32 bit Java for a 32 bit OS. Or the 64 bit Java for a 64 bit OS.
#537 [08:32] <AureliusM> naaru: Hmm chunk loading slow eh? I can only guess that minecraft's video options were set to Balanced, and that causes minecraft to split the time between rendering and chunk loading
#538 [08:33] <naaru> no no it was max fps
#539 [08:33] <AureliusM> naaru: So, when GPU is allowed to offload the hard work from teh CPU, the CPU's got more time to chunk work.
#540 [08:33] <AureliusM> naaru: Oh. I'm still guessing then.
#541 [08:34] <goyeinoob> ok its downlaoded should i try the game now
#542 [08:35] <naaru> but now it looks like it helped i get around 30 fps while flying in creative mode with far distance setting
#543 [08:35] <AureliusM> naaru: Wait, when minecraft uses the slow Intel GPU, that will keep FPS low, minecraft may then only do one tick of chunk work per frame.
#544 [08:35] <AureliusM> goyienoob: Yes, try minecraft now
#545 [08:36] <goyeinoob> i have it still wont work :(
#546 [08:36] <naaru> i dont know it runs much smoother now
#547 [08:36] <naaru> but i still have some lags spikes
#548 [08:37] <AureliusM> naaru: I do not have the luxury of a fast CPU or GPU so I am grateful to get anything close to 20 FPS. But try playing with the options such as Fast Fancy, render distance Normal
#549 [08:37] <naaru> but the autosave is set on 3 min
#550 [08:37] <AureliusM> goyienoob: Ok, have you tried teh force update on minecraft launcher - press the Options button
#551 [08:38] <goyeinoob> i have but will try one more time :)
#552 [08:39] <AureliusM> naaru: Looking at your specs: Intel core i7 (quad core) nvidia gt540m a - this should run minecraft quite well. As long as nothing in Windows interferes.
#553 [08:39] <goyeinoob> that did not work either
#554 [08:40] <goyeinoob> allso in the game if i turn on a switch it just gos on and off again
#555 [08:40] <naaru> ok i hate the spikes but the overall fps are nice and its playable i just didnt want to play on tiny with laging while seeing that my old pc runs it on far :D
#556 [08:40] <AureliusM> goyienoob: If nothing works, it may just be the mouse driver, can you check the mouse control panel for the double click rate?
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#558 [08:41] <goyeinoob> ok ill try that now
#559 [08:41] <naaru> yes i know it thats why wanted to help because that was impossible
#560 [08:41] <AureliusM> naaru: lag spikes - even the best machines are getting those now. You know abou the Optifine mod that reduces the spikes?
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#562 [08:41] <naaru> no
#563 [08:42] <naaru> well, heard of it but still didnt try because i had greater problems
#564 [08:42] <AureliusM> naaru: This channel does not support mods, but I make an exception for Optifine, as it can make a big improvement - but usually for the lower specced machines.
#565 [08:43] <AureliusM> naaru: I would first backup your whole .minecraft folder before trying any mods
#566 [08:43] <goyeinoob> ok shall i try set it to fast
#567 [08:43] <naaru> sure
#568 [08:44] <AureliusM> naaru: Then look at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/249637-100-optifine-hd-d3-fps-boost-hd-textures/ but realise that after modding , you willl first need to force update to resolve any problems here
#569 [08:45] <naaru> but i watn now to thank you a lot man ;) i should make a comparison video to show you what a difference is it :))
#570 [08:45] <AureliusM> goyienoob: with mouses try anything that might work! You can also try minecraft's options for mouse sensitivity - reduce it to mayve 70% - this should not work, but people have reported it helps
#571 [08:47] <AureliusM> naaru: I'm not surprised witching to the real GPU makes a big difference. What's surprising is the intel chipset worked at all with minecraft.
#572 [08:47] <AureliusM> naaru: ... or better said tha the intel chipset gave even half playable framerate
#573 [08:49] <naaru> but..one more thing ..its another roblem but ..its not this important but.. i tried to run water shader and it works but only with minecraft,exe, not the multiplayer client
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#575 [08:50] <naaru> do you have any idea what causes this ?
#576 [08:50] <AureliusM> naaru: water shader is a mod? We cannot give support for mods here, but there are other channels, wait.
#577 [08:51] <AureliusM> ??> naaru mods
#578 [08:51] <VoxelHead> naaru: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#579 [08:51] <VoxelHead> naaru: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#580 [08:51] <AureliusM> Hmm, I thought there was a risucraft channel for mod help, still looking...
#581 [08:51] <goyeinoob> double click rate is on top speed
#582 [08:51] <goyeinoob> ?
#583 [08:52] <naaru> ok fine so thank a lot again and bye :)
#584 [08:52] <AureliusM> naaru: try /join #risucraft for modding help, not sure what they cover exactly
#585 [08:52] <AureliusM> naaru: try /join #risucraft for modding help, not sure what they cover exactly
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#587 [08:53] <AureliusM> goyienoob: well try a lower speed and see if it helps. Make sure that the mouse button is not sticking in some way - dust or fluff for example.
#588 [08:56] <mib_y8k7z8> Dear Ragnheiður Dagsdóttir, TRANSACTION CONFIRMATION You have successfully made a payment to Mojang AB using your credit/debit card (MASTERCARD, 5xxxxxxxxxxx2125) on 03 Dec 2011. The amount of EUR 19.95 has successfully been debited from your credit/debit card. This charge will appear on your card statement as a debit by: MB*Mojang Sincerest regards, 13:18 mi
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#590 [08:57] <Kryzz> hi, i have a problem with my minecraft server
#591 [08:57] <Kryzz> [SEVERE] Unexpected exception
#592 [08:57] <Kryzz> java.lang.NullPointerException
#593 [08:57] <Kryzz> anyone have an idea ?
#594 [08:58] <goyeinoob> still nothink
#595 [08:58] <mib_y8k7z8> hi how can i find out my username and password when I bought the game 3th of December 11
#596 [08:59] <AureliusM> ??> mib_y8k7z8 support
#597 [08:59] <VoxelHead> mib_y8k7z8: (support) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#598 [09:01] <AureliusM> Kryzz: need the full java log, but are you using tghe 1.0.1 server jar?
#599 [09:01] <Kryzz> how do i check that ?
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#601 [09:01] <AureliusM> goyienoob: is your mouse *always* placing 2 blocks? even when you very quickly tap it?
#602 [09:02] <AureliusM> Kryzz: how do launch your server? The version is in the server console.
#603 [09:02] <Kryzz> seems to be 1.0.0
#604 [09:03] <\a> Kryzz: the server .exe is out of date
#605 [09:03] <Kryzz> oh
#606 [09:03] <\a> 1.0.1 is only available as the jar
#607 [09:03] <Kryzz> whats a jar ?=)
#608 [09:03] <AureliusM> Kryzz: use the 1.0.1, the 1.0.0 exe version has known problems, but the only one I have had is the invalid key one. Yes mojang should provide an updated exe...
#609 [09:04] <\a> they forgot
#610 [09:04] <AureliusM> Kryzz: minecraft.net/download look at " minecraft_server.jar (621 KB)"
#611 [09:04] <Morrolan> Meh, they should just not provide an exe at all. After all it's not much more than a wrapped .jar. *shrug*
#612 [09:05] <AureliusM> I hear you Morrolan
#613 [09:05] <Morrolan> Also, them forgetting is just so typical. ^^
#614 [09:05] <Morrolan> You do? Now that is great. ;)
#615 [09:06] <Kryzz> AureliusM: seems a bit complicated..
#616 [09:06] <Morrolan> It's exactly the same as the .exe, Kryzz.
#617 [09:06] <Kryzz> oh,
#618 [09:06] <Morrolan> If you want you can just double-click it like you did with the .exe.
#619 [09:06] <\a> well not really
#620 [09:06] <Kryzz> yeah i noticed now, sorry
#621 [09:07] <Kryzz> can i use my startup script ?
#622 [09:07] <\a> it would be better if you did
#623 [09:07] <Kryzz> i use a run.bat
#624 [09:07] <\a> just change the .exe to .jar
#625 [09:07] <Kryzz> simple enough
#626 [09:07] <Morrolan> Yea, sure. Actually I'm wondering why you used the .exe if you had a startup script anyway. :)
#627 [09:07] <Kryzz> =)
#628 [09:08] <AureliusM> I just fixed the wiki to stop it advising people to download the server exe
#629 [09:09] <Kryzz> seems to be working now, thanx!
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#632 [09:11] <AureliusM> Kryzz: good, but if you still get server errors, ask here
#633 [09:11] <Kryzz> ofcourse =)
#634 [09:11] <AureliusM> ... and I also just fixed the wiki's bad advice on Java 7 ...
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#637 [09:14] <mib_y8k7z8> hi my username is balli02 and i have forgot my password. I have asked for access to change it but I dont receive any e-mail for assistant.
#638 [09:15] <mib_y8k7z8> can you help me
#639 [09:15] <mib_y8k7z8> my email address is halldor@fiton.is
#640 [09:15] <Morrolan> We can not help you with account problems. Are you sure that this is the mail address you have registered your account with?
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#643 [09:18] <Reggie> hi all
#644 [09:18] <Baenlynn> hi reggie
#645 [09:18] <Reggie> is this english or german?
#646 [09:19] <Baenlynn> Not sure. Just got here.
#647 [09:19] <Morrolan> English ofcourse.
#648 [09:19] <Baenlynn> Evening everyone. I had a question regarding toomanyitems. About a week ago it just stopped working in the middle of a game session and despite reinstalling twice it still won't work. Only other things I had installed were the mod loader and SPC. Any clues?
#649 [09:20] <Morrolan> How did you reinstall Minecraft?
#650 [09:20] <Baenlynn> just cleared out the.minecraft directory in appdata
#651 [09:20] <Morrolan> Ok, so that should provide you with a clear installation indeed.
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#653 [09:20] <Morrolan> What happens if you try to launch it now? And I assume you did not install any mods yet?
#654 [09:20] <Reggie> i have a mayor problem to get mc started (black screen). i d prefer german-solving
#655 [09:20] <mib_y8k7z8> balli02 is ok. Thanks!
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#657 [09:21] <Baenlynn> haven't bothered no. I can log in and play just fine, SPC works, but there's no TMI
#658 [09:21] <Morrolan> Uh, wait. Does the game work now or does it not?
#659 [09:21] <Baenlynn> Googled for answeres but doesn't seem like this is a common problem. Weird thing is I was ingame when this first happened.
#660 [09:22] <Morrolan> "despite reinstalling twice it still won't work." <- is that in regard to the mods or to Minecraft itself?
#661 [09:22] <Baenlynn> the mods.
#662 [09:22] <Baenlynn> well toomanyitems specifically
#663 [09:22] <Baenlynn> or should I be over on another channel asking this one?
#664 [09:22] <Morrolan> Well, after cleaning the .minecraft folder you have got a Vanilla installation of Minecraft again, so you will have to install your mods again.
#665 [09:22] <Baenlynn> Did that
#666 [09:22] <Baenlynn> twice
#667 [09:23] <Morrolan> Ah, I see what you're meaning now.
#668 [09:23] <Reggie> anyone can help in a 1on1-chat solving my black screen issue?
#669 [09:23] <Morrolan> The best thing would be to contact the owner of that specific mod, for example by asking in its forumthread, Baenlynn.
#670 [09:23] <Morrolan> Apart from that we can't help you much further. You could also try to ask in #risucraft , maybe one of these guys will have an idea.
#671 [09:23] <DDark> so can anyone help me with classic server?
#672 [09:23] <Morrolan> DDark: We pretty much dropped support for Classic I think.
#673 [09:24] <Baenlynn> Thanks Morrolan
#674 [09:24] <Morrolan> Since none really knew its way around it.
#675 [09:24] <Morrolan> Reggie: Just describe your issue here. Did it ever work? Did you install any mods? etc
#676 [09:24] <Morrolan> Reggie: Just describe your issue here. Did it ever work? Did you install any mods? etc
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#678 [09:24] <Morrolan> sure thing, Baenlynn. Good luck.
#679 [09:24] <DDark> @Morrolan Well i thought if i have issues setting up classic then it might be the same with the real version
#680 [09:25] <Reggie> on this computer it never worked. reinstalled mc and java several times. i am using vista 64bit
#681 [09:25] <Reggie> mc also doesnt work in browser-version
#682 [09:26] <Chris|ZzZ> ??< fubar/hamachi
#683 [09:27] <Morrolan> DDark: That depends on your specific issue I guess. If it's a bug of the game itself then no, Classic has not much in common with the current version of MInecraft.
#684 [09:27] <Morrolan> What is your issue with the Classic server then?
#685 [09:27] <Morrolan> Reggie: What version of Java are you using?
#686 [09:27] <Morrolan> ??< java/version
#687 [09:28] <Morrolan> http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp go on that site to find out if you don't know, Reggie.
#688 [09:28] <Reggie> newest java
#689 [09:28] <Morrolan> And what version specifically?
#690 [09:28] <Reggie> sec, checking
#691 [09:29] <DDark> @Morrolan Well i setup the server other ppl seems to play in it, but when i try to connect i get "Failed to connect You failed to connect to the server. it's probably down! "
#692 [09:29] <Morrolan> Ah, I think you can not connect to a Classic server from the computer it's hosted on, DDark.
#693 [09:29] <Morrolan> Don't ask me why, really
#694 [09:30] <DDark> @Morrolan I hosted it on my dedicated server
#695 [09:30] <Reggie> java SE runtime 1.6.0_30 , both, 32 bit and 64bit
#696 [09:30] <Morrolan> DDark: Oh, I see. :/
#697 [09:31] <AureliusM> Reggie: what error message appears after the black screen? Is there a file named hs_err_pid on the computer?
#698 [09:31] <Morrolan> Reggie: It would be worth trying to start Minecraft with the 64bit version of Java, instead of the 32bit version it'll use by default.
#699 [09:31] <Reggie> AureliusM: no error message
#700 [09:32] <Reggie> Morrolan: i also tried to start mc with .bat : java -Xms650m -jar "E:\MC\Minecraft.exe"
#701 [09:32] <Morrolan> Replace "Java" with the path to your 64bit Java installation.
#702 [09:33] <Morrolan> also, why with 650MB only?
#703 [09:33] <Morrolan> How much RAM do you have exactly?
#704 [09:34] <Morrolan> Also, when starting it with a .bat I suggest you use the .jar launcher. It might work with the exe too, but I wouldn't know.
#705 [09:34] <Reggie> Morrolan: 4gb
#706 [09:34] <Morrolan> Then just launch it without any memory arguments and let it use the default 1GB I'd suggest. :)
#707 [09:34] <Reggie> how can i find my java64bit-folder?
#708 [09:35] <Morrolan> Well, for me it would be "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin"
#709 [09:35] <Morrolan> Basically just go into your Program files folder and look for "Java".
#710 [09:35] <Morrolan> The 32bit installation will be in "Program files (x86)"
#711 [09:35] <Morrolan> And the 64bit one in the "normal" Program files folder.
#712 [09:37] <DDark> @Morrolan What if i get same prob if i buy and host a real server and refound ?
#713 [09:38] <Reggie> Morrolan: might be possible that i overinstalled both versions by installing into the same folder? i just have this one java-folder in program files (x86)
#714 [09:41] <AureliusM> Reggie: have you tried the minecraft.jar version ? If you download it to the same folder as the minecraft.exe, use this mcdef.bat batch file to catch any errors: http://pastebin.com/0VyXxtu0
#715 [09:41] <Reggie> AureliusM: i dont unstand
#716 [09:43] <Reggie> AureliusM: i downloaded the minecraft.jar several times from the official website
#717 [09:43] <Reggie> AureliusM: i dont have a mcdef.bat
#718 [09:43] <AureliusM> Reggie: Try goto minecraft.net/download ; click "Show all platforms" scroll down to "Minecraft for Linux / Other", click the " minecraft.jar (89 KB)." link, save it to your E:\MC\ folder
#719 [09:45] <DDark> ONe question is it possible to connect to classic server with minecraft client
#720 [09:45] <AureliusM> Reggie: then, click Start (links unten auf dem Desktop), type "cmd" and press Enter (Eingabe Taste). Then type: java -cp "E:\MC\Minecraft.jar" net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#721 [09:46] <Reggie> AureliusM: i just created the mcdef.bat you linked. let me start it...
#722 [09:47] <AureliusM> Reggie: This "java -cp" command should display errors in the Command window. That mcdef.bat file just saves you from having to type all that in.
#723 [09:48] <Reggie> AureliusM: hm, this bat shows my all the same text like my old start.bat
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#725 [09:48] <mib_thaxib> hello
#726 [09:48] <mib_thaxib> i need a help about account
#727 [09:49] <AureliusM> Reggie: what text? With no error messages?
#728 [09:49] <Reggie> AureliusM: why did you suggest to download Linux/Other version when i am using vista?
#729 [09:49] <Reggie> AureliusM: still no error messages
#730 [09:50] <Reggie> AureliusM: last text is: OpenAL initialized
#731 [09:50] <AureliusM> Reggie: Ok, try typing "java -version" in the cmd window
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#733 [09:52] <Reggie> AureliusM: java version "1.6.0_30", java SE Runtime Envoirement (build 1.6.0_30-b12), java Hotspot 64bit Server VM (build 20.5-bo3, mixed mode)
#734 [09:53] <AureliusM> Reggie: Ah, ok last line is OpenAL initialized, so minecraft process is still running? Does Task Manager, process tab show "Java" ?
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#736 [09:54] <Reggie> AureliusM: yes, java.exe is still in process tab
#737 [09:55] <naaru> hi.. i have a problem, just before a while i was playing minecraft and suddenly my pc shut down..do you know what causes this ?
#738 [09:55] <Reggie> AureliusM: uses 50% of my cpu thou^^
#739 [09:55] <naaru> please
#740 [09:56] <naaru> couldn it be overheat ?
#741 [09:56] <AureliusM> Reggie: and CPU is 50%, this sounds familiar. Minecraft sometimes hangs in a busy loop. Is any macromedia Flash running in any browser window?
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#743 [09:57] <naaru> hi aurelius thats me again can you read my message please ?
#744 [09:58] <Reggie> AureliusM: nothing is running atm besides this chat and mc (black screen since 5min)
#745 [10:01] <AureliusM> Reggie: try this first: click Start / Control panel (Systemsteuerung glaube ich) / Java icon / Advanced / Settings (keine Ahnung auf deutsch) / Debugging (erste >eil) / Show applet lifecycle exceptions (dritte Zeile)
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#747 [10:03] <AureliusM> naaru: yes, GPUs can overheat, and that might explain a black screen that Reggie is getting. But not each time. I suspect something else.
#748 [10:04] <AureliusM> Reggie: the Linux version also works on Windows - the exe is the same as the jar except it has a Windows wrapper around it.
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#751 [10:05] <Reggie> AureliusM: hm, i followed you instructions and started minecraft.exe. now it is not java.exe in process tab it is javaw.exe ?! wierd
#752 [10:06] <Reggie> AureliusM: and the path i saw in control panal -> java was NOT c:program files...
#753 [10:07] <Reggie> AureliusM: and the path i saw in control panal -> java was NOT c:/program files...
#754 [10:07] <Reggie> args
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#756 [10:07] <Reggie> how can i disable smilies
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#758 [10:08] <mib_0uo6mh> how can i stop my minecraft from freezing?
#759 [10:09] <AureliusM> Reggie: Java Control Panel / Java tab / View => Path was not C:\ ? What was it? Click the Mpath field and press control-C to copy to clipboard
#760 [10:10] <AureliusM> Reggie: Click the Path field and press control-C to copy to clipboard, then in this char channel, press control-V.
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#762 [10:11] <Reggie> AureliusM:1.6 1.6.0_30 http://java.sun.com/products/autodl/j2se G:\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe true
#763 [10:11] <AureliusM> naaru: is it a laptop ? That might shut down because of low power or because of over heating. Find a temperature monitoring program for your PC. For example, ATI might have one.
#764 [10:12] <naaru> yes it is
#765 [10:12] <naaru> and what monitoring program ?
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#768 [10:15] <naaru> and if i find thta its overheating then what should i do ?
#769 [10:15] <AureliusM> naaru: google for ATITool that works for ATI and Nvidia cards; or Speedfan, or better get System Information viewer from microsoft's technet site here: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb795535
#770 [10:17] <AureliusM> Reggie: I am still thinking about what to check. I have Vista too and I set a CLASSPATH for Java - I ma just checking if that is necessary
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#773 [10:21] <AureliusM> Reggie: Ignore my CLASS_PATH comment, I do not set one.
#774 [10:21] <AureliusM> naaru: if it gets too hot, stop running the program that causes it to overheat. The fan should be working and clean of dust.
#775 [10:23] <AureliusM> Reggie: You wrote that minecraft blackscreens also in browser. Please enable the java console as in this image: http://i.imgur.com/fNrtU.png
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#777 [10:25] <Reggie> AureliusM: done. shall i try a start now?
#778 [10:26] <naaru> and how can i check it ?
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#780 [10:26] <Jamesfle> hi, im finding my password keeps resetting or something. So each time i go to log in, i get a wrong password, cant connect. I reset my pw and its all ok again for a day or two. Any suggestions?
#781 [10:27] <AureliusM> Reggie: try minecraft from mcdef.bat first yes
#782 [10:28] <AureliusM> naaru: how to check the fan is working? You should hear it. Also SIV (from Microsoft's technet, might be called PSInfo now) should show CPU and GPU temperatures and maybe fan speeds.
#783 [10:30] <AureliusM> naaru: also if you use the ATITool, only use it to look at the temperature, do NOT try anything else, NOT the scan NOT any of the find buttons. They can cause overheating themselves.
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#786 [10:32] <Reggie> back after browser-crash
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#788 [10:34] <Reggie> still black-screen. the browser version of mc just crashed my browser
#789 [10:34] <Reggie> i am so upset now. what the hell can be so damn hard letting damn minecraft run??
#790 [10:36] <AureliusM> Reggie: Did the Java console appear and show anything?
#791 [10:36] <Reggie> AureliusM : yes, same text. last line: OpenAL initialized
#792 [10:38] <Reggie> AureliusM : but i think it only appeared when i started the mc browser-version
#793 [10:38] <Reggie> AureliusM : should it also appear when starting mc.jar?
#794 [10:39] <AureliusM> Reggie: no, the mcdef.bat should not cause Java console to appear
#795 [10:41] <AureliusM> (To all) without more debug output from reggies's java s I'm not sure what to try next. Minecraft hangs busy with no error message. I'll suggest no browser open, then new Windows profile.
#796 [10:42] <AureliusM> (To all) When I've had a busy hang I use Process Explorer to look at the threads, and then start adding kava debug options but that's too advanced I think.
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#798 [10:43] <Reggie> browser crash again
#799 [10:44] <AureliusM> Reggie: When Minecraft hangs in a busy state like yours, it is hard to know what to do. Have you tried first closing all browsers and then launching minecraft from a batch file with no browsers open?
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#801 [10:45] <Reggie> AureliusM: yes, i just did. all applications closed. then started minecraft with bat. result: black screen
#802 [10:45] <Reggie> AureliusM: shall i change the java path to c program files / java?
#803 [10:46] <AureliusM> Reggie: Yes try that, but I suspect the result will be the same
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#805 [10:47] <Jose> Hello?
#806 [10:48] <Jose> i need help with purchasing Minecraft
#807 [10:49] <AureliusM> Reggie: Yes
#808 [10:49] <AureliusM> Reggie: Yes
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#812 [10:51] <mib_96ypgn> Help i got to buy my account and it wont let me it said it failed. After a few more trys it wont let me buy it for 24 hours. HELP!
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#814 [10:53] <Reggie> AureliusM: black screen. i gonna update my graficcard-driver. after computer restart i ll be back
#815 [10:54] <AureliusM> Reggie: Ok, also double check your Vista is 64 bit and that there is only one 64 bit Java installed
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#817 [10:54] <AureliusM> Reggie: I am away for 30 minutes to go shopping!
#818 [10:55] <mib_96ypgn> So no answer to my question? :L
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#825 [11:06] <{unimatrix}> Scott
#826 [11:06] <{unimatrix}> you there
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#831 [11:23] <mib_ugjnie> when I play minecraft after like 10 min of play it just quits why?
#832 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> Do you get any error messages?
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#834 [11:25] <mib_ugjnie> no but I get a .txt after every time and I dont understand it
#835 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> That would be an error log. Could you please share the contents of it to pastebin.com, submit it, and give us the URL?
#836 [11:26] <mib_ugjnie> ok hold ok
#837 [11:26] <Guest30853> I Need Help With An Issue Where It Says "Fatal Error Occurred" Can You Help?
#838 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> Guest2280 - Please share the contents of that error log to pastebin.com, submit it, and give us the URL?
#839 [11:27] <mib_ugjnie> http://pastebin.com/PGSUBjs8
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#841 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> mib_ugjnie - First off, you're running java 7, which has been known to cause problems with minecraft. We recommend java 6 instead. Also, your issue is with outdated nvidia video drivers, you can update them from: http://www.nvidia.com
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#843 [11:28] <Guest30853> How Would I Get The Game Running Again?
#844 [11:28] <mib_ugjnie> ok I'll try that thank you
#845 [11:28] <ClashMaxx> Greetings!
#846 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> Guest30853 - Could you share with us, what the error says?
#847 [11:29] * mib_5155g8 [mib_5155g8@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#848 [11:29] <ClashMaxx> What is the latest Minecraft Server version?
#849 [11:29] <mib_5155g8> my minecraft dose not open
#850 [11:29] <Guest30853> Sure! Just Give Me A Sec,
#851 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> ClashMaxx - 1.0.1
#852 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> mib_5155g8 - And why doesn't it? What happens when you try to run it?
#853 [11:30] <mib_5155g8> it gives me this
#854 [11:30] <ClashMaxx> I've been to minecraft.net and downloaded 1.0.0
#855 [11:30] <mib_5155g8> hs_err_pid13144
#856 [11:30] <ClashMaxx> Where can I download 1.0.1?
#857 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> ClashMaxx - If you downloaded the .exe, you'll get 1.0.0
#858 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> ClashMaxx - The .jar has 1.0.1
#859 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> mib_5155g8 - Please share the contents of that file to pastebin.com and submit it, then give us the URL
#860 [11:31] <mib_5155g8> can enyone help me pleas
#861 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> mib_5155g8 - Please share the contents of that file to pastebin.com and submit it, then give us the URL
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#863 [11:31] <mib_5155g8> how do i do that
#864 [11:31] <Guest30853> It Says The Following "An Error Has Occured While Loading That Applet. Please Contact Support" So Anyone Know How To Solve That?
#865 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> mib_5155g8 - Open up hs_err_pid13144, copy everything inside. Go to http://www.pastebin.com and paste it in the text box. Then press the submit button, look at the top of your browser for the new http:// address, copy it here
#866 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> Guest30853 - Do you have anything more than that?
#867 [11:33] <mr_sticky> ok i bought minecraft last night around eleven thirty and it said the transaction was sucessful but today when i went to play it it didnt let me. it said i needed to buy the game and i never got an email to confirm my purchase.
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#869 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> mr_sticky - Call your bank or credit card, make sure payment was made on their end. If it hasn't, then the transaction was never completed
#870 [11:34] <mib_5155g8> hey where do i find that
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#872 [11:34] <ClashMaxx> GreyVulpine - Thanks! Looks like I have a wiki page to read.
#873 [11:34] <Guest30853> Um....Yes. It Also Says The Following " Fatal Error (4) Unable To Get Input Stream For Lwjgl.apple.jar.pack"
#874 [11:35] <mr_sticky> thank you. i am calling now.
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#876 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_5155g8 - Where do you find what?
#877 [11:35] <mib_5155g8> greyvulpine where can i find that
#878 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_5155g8 - Where do you find what?
#879 [11:36] <clarjon1> oh
#880 [11:36] <mib_5155g8> the text box in pastebin.com
#881 [11:36] <clarjon1> ??> mib_5155g8 pastebin
#882 [11:36] <VoxelHead> mib_5155g8: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#883 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> Guest30853 - First off, clear your browser's cache/temp files/cookies. If that doesn't work, try a different browser. If it still doesn't work, uninstall and reinstall java.
#884 [11:36] <clarjon1> mib_5155g8: Just go to pastebin.com in your web browser. The text box is kinda hard to miss.
#885 [11:36] <Guest30853> So Can Anyone Help With My Error In The Free Version?
#886 [11:37] <mib_5155g8> ok now what gery vulpine
#887 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> Did you paste the text at pastebin.com?
#888 [11:38] <mib_5155g8> yes
#889 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> Did you press the submit button?
#890 [11:38] <mib_5155g8> yes
#891 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> What is the new http:// address in your browser's address bar?
#892 [11:39] <mib_5155g8> wahit let me paste it
#893 [11:39] <mib_5155g8> http://pastebin.com/Jdb5n74m
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#895 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> mib_5155g8 - Looks like a problem with java. Please uninstall and reinstall it
#896 [11:39] <mib_5155g8> ok
#897 [11:40] <Guest30853> Alright, I Tried Deleting Cookies. I'm Hoping This Will Work....
#898 [11:40] <mib_5155g8> how do unistall it if im in vista
#899 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> mib_5155g8 - Start -> Control panel -> programs and features -> look for Java in that list
#900 [11:41] <Guest30853> Rats! Cookies Didn't Work. Trying Another Browser....
#901 [11:41] <mr_sticky> ok i called and they said they didnt get a reguest for the payment. but then why did it say transaction complete?
#902 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> mr_sticky - The second page always says complete, even after a failed transaction
#903 [11:43] <Guest30853> Didn't Work. Any Other Way I Can Get The Free Version Working?
#904 [11:43] <mib_5155g8> greyvulpine it syas java
#905 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> mib_5155g8 - Uninstall all java from Programs and Features. Then reinstall java from java.com
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#907 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> Guest30853 - When you cleared the temp files, did you clear everything, or just the cookies?
#908 [11:44] <Guest30853> How Do I Do That?
#909 [11:44] <mib_mic0vi> paid for game but never got code
#910 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> Guest30853 - All depends on what browser you use
#911 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> mib_mic0vi - What minecraft username do you use?
#912 [11:45] <mib_5155g8> greyvulpine java updater do i unistall that
#913 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> mib_5155g8 - Everything java.
#914 [11:45] <Guest30853> I Have Firefox.
#915 [11:45] <mib_mic0vi> coletastic111
#916 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> !paid coletastic111
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#918 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> Does not look like the payment went through yet, mib_mic0vi. I'd first call your bank or credit card, see if payment has been made on their end
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#921 [11:46] <mib_mic0vi> thank you
#922 [11:46] <Skydive> hi
#923 [11:46] <Skydive> hello
#924 [11:46] <mr_sticky> ah. well the little girl said that it may be monday b4 it even shows that the acount was charged. could it take that long to work?
#925 [11:46] <Guest30853> So, How Do I Delete The Temp Files???
#926 [11:46] <Skydive> Erm im having issues with JVM_Bind
#927 [11:46] <Skydive> my minecraft server wont bind on any port
#928 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> mr_sticky - Mojang, the creator of minecraft, only gives out premium when they've received confirmation of payment
#929 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> Guest30853 - In Firefox, press your alt key to bring up the toolbar at the top. Look for tools -> Clear recent history
#930 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> Skydive - Did you input a server-ip in your server.properties file?
#931 [11:47] <Skydive> do i need to do that?
#932 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> No.
#933 [11:47] <Skydive> lol static or external
#934 [11:47] <mr_sticky> ah. well thank you for your help. it was greatly appreciated.
#935 [11:47] <Skydive> it used to work fine
#936 [11:47] <Guest30853> Done! Now What?
#937 [11:47] <Skydive> i could host a mc server
#938 [11:47] <Skydive> it doesnt work now
#939 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> Skydive - Give us a copy of your server.log, paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the address
#940 [11:47] <Skydive> k
#941 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> Guest30853 - Try minecraft again
#942 [11:48] <Guest30853> Alright! Here We Go....
#943 [11:48] <mib_t8tfad> why there's an error when I tried to start the game
#944 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_t8tfad - Could you share that error with us via www.pastebin.com?
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#946 [11:49] <Guest30853> DANG! It Didn't Work.
#947 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> Guest30853 - Alright, one more thing to try: Go to your start menu -> Control panel > Java > General > Temporary Internet Files > Settings > Delete files
#948 [11:50] <mib_dow49h> greyvulpine i was the guy hoo had the hseerr pird
#949 [11:50] <mib_dow49h> problem
#950 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_dow49h - Yes, the java problem. Did you uninstall java and reinstall it?
#951 [11:51] <Skydive> http://pastebin.com/sjBByBqi
#952 [11:51] <Skydive> there you go grey
#953 [11:51] <mib_dow49h> yes im doing it right now
#954 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> Skydive - Operating system?
#955 [11:52] <Skydive> Windows 7 - Home Premium
#956 [11:52] <Guest30853> Done! Now What?
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#958 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> Guest30853 - Now try minecraft again
#959 [11:53] <mib_dow49h> onece java is done downloading what do i do
#960 [11:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> ohai :)
#961 [11:53] <mib_dow49h> greyvulpine
#962 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> mib_dow49h - Install it, then run minecraft
#963 [11:53] <mib_dow49h> ok!
#964 [11:53] <Guest30853> Thanks! It Worked!
#965 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> Guest30853 - Great
#966 [11:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> O.o
#967 [11:54] <Guest30853> Alright Then,Till Next Time!
#968 [11:55] <Skydive> Windows 7 - Home Premium, 4 gigs of ram 3 gigs available, toshiba sattelite A660, intel i5 quad core
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#970 [11:55] <Skydive> thats pretty much it
#971 [11:55] <Skydive> it recently fucked up, it wa srunning fine earlier
#972 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> Skydive - Did you look at your task manager, make sure there's no java.exe process running before you launched the server?
#973 [11:56] <mib_dow49h> thank you man serisly greyvu,pine ! :)
#974 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> I assume it worked mib_dow49h?
#975 [11:57] <mib_dow49h> yes ilove minecraft :)
#976 [11:57] <Skydive> hmm, ill check
#977 [11:57] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#977 [11:58] <Skydive> Nope just jusched.exe, oh forgot to mention my pc is a 64-bit
#978 [11:58] <Skydive> jusched.exe = java auto updater
#979 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> Skydive - What version of java are you running?
#980 [11:58] <Skydive> dunno
#981 [11:58] <mib_dow49h> good bye greyvulpine
#982 [11:58] <Skydive> how may i check7
#983 [11:58] <Skydive> check*
#984 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> Either by going to your control panel -> programs and features....
#985 [11:59] <Skydive> kl
#986 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> Or visiting javatester.org/version.html
#987 [11:59] <Skydive> ah
#988 [11:59] <Skydive> k
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#990 [11:59] <Skydive> 1.6.0_29
#991 [12:00] <Skydive> from sun microsystems inc.
#992 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Could you check your control panel -> programs and features, make sure java 7 isn't installed on your computer?
#993 [12:01] <Skydive> k
#994 [12:01] <Skydive> it says java there
#995 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> What version?
#996 [12:01] <AureliusM> Skydive: click the Java tab and then the View button
#997 [12:01] <Skydive> on the java control panel it says
#998 [12:01] <Skydive> version 6 update 27
#999 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Alright then. Um.
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#1001 [12:02] <Skydive> lol, im as suprised as you are, if it wont work dw, ill just go back to hosting my tf2 and css server
#1002 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> Have you done a reboot of your computer since this stopped working?
#1003 [12:04] <Skydive> yes
#1004 [12:04] <Skydive> many times
#1005 [12:04] <Skydive> it stopped last month
#1006 [12:04] <Skydive> although i havent tried it on another device since the issue happened
#1007 [12:04] <Skydive> ill do that now
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#1009 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> Usually this occurs because of windows not letting the port go, or a server's already running, or the port is closed for some reason
#1010 [12:06] <Skydive> tbh, i can host other servers
#1011 [12:06] <Skydive> but the weird thing is
#1012 [12:06] <Skydive> minecraft wont host on any open port
#1013 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> Well, source games run on a different port, 27015-ish
#1014 [12:06] <Skydive> ive made exceptions on my firewall for portts 25565 too
#1015 [12:06] <Skydive> i know
#1016 [12:06] <Skydive> but mc wont host on ANY PORT
#1017 [12:06] <Skydive> at aall
#1018 [12:06] <Skydive> all*
#1019 [12:06] <Skydive> tried loads of em
#1020 [12:07] <Skydive> ive tried 7790, 7777,7790,27015 also even 2100
#1021 [12:07] <Skydive> ill try hosting on my asus laptop
#1022 [12:07] <Skydive> se
#1023 [12:07] <Skydive> sec*
#1024 [12:07] <Skydive> ?
#1025 [12:07] <langkid1> hello
#1026 [12:07] <langkid1> Skydive, you're talking too fast, the ENTER key is NOT punctuation
#1027 [12:08] <langkid1> please fit your thoughts into one or two line(s)
#1028 [12:08] <Skydive> lol okay
#1029 [12:08] <Skydive> its become a habit, my mind thinks in chunks now
#1030 [12:08] <langkid1> yeh
#1031 [12:08] <langkid1> GreyVulpine, ugh, I HATE when a server dies and doesn't let go of the port
#1032 [12:09] <Skydive> lang, my ports are not occupied
#1033 [12:09] <Skydive> i can host other servers man
#1034 [12:10] <Skydive> for minecraft ALL of them are occupied, soz chunks
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#1036 [12:10] <AureliusM> Skydive, unless GreyVulpine has better ideas, try TCPView from Microsoft to check nothing else is holding that port
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#1039 [12:11] <AureliusM> Skydive,I've had this failed to bind but it cleared when I killed all java processes and apps and browsers and started a vanilla server 1.0.1
#1040 [12:12] <mib_7ln5f3> Good evening, because I have a problem trying to log into the launcher says that connect me to fail and try again; /
#1041 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> Was thinking of doing a netstat -a... but *shrug*
#1042 [12:12] <AureliusM> Yeah I played with netstat too.
#1043 [12:12] <langkid1> AureliusM, yeah you gotta kill the processes
#1044 [12:12] <langkid1> of Java
#1045 [12:12] <Skydive> hmm
#1046 [12:13] <Skydive> done that
#1047 [12:13] <Skydive> no java is running
#1048 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> Last thing I can think of, is a reinstall of java.
#1049 [12:13] <AureliusM> Skydive, I did not make notes, so my memory's hazy, but I suspected one of the svchost processes was the cause
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#1051 [12:14] <AureliusM> Try sign out of windows user and relog in, that sometimes clears Java when it gets confused
#1052 [12:15] <AureliusM> On Vista that would be "Change user"
#1053 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> He's rebooted multiple times
#1054 [12:15] <AureliusM> Ah yes. forget my last.
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#1056 [12:17] <Skydive> its not network issues
#1057 [12:17] <Skydive> it works on another pc
#1058 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> I'd say a full uninstall/reinstall of java is in order
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#1060 [12:19] <drewdogg> I have purchased the premium version but cant seem to get it to work. When I try to play in the browser it goes to a solid white screen.
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#1062 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> drewdogg - Has it ever worked before?
#1063 [12:22] <Skydive> Allright, Thanks For The Help Guys
#1064 [12:22] <Skydive> Especially you Vulpine
#1065 [12:22] <Skydive> Keep it up
#1066 [12:22] <Skydive> Bye Guys
#1067 [12:22] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1067 [12:22] <drewdogg> not the premium version, the regular free version has though
#1068 [12:22] * Skydive Slaps Grey
#1068 [12:22] <Skydive> lol jks
#1069 [12:22] <Skydive> lol jks
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#1072 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> drewdogg - The outdated classic one?
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#1074 [12:23] <drewdogg> right that one has worked
#1075 [12:23] <kleinebaas> Is there any way to uninstall "The ! workaround"?
#1076 [12:24] <flabbergaster> minecraft isnt opening
#1077 [12:24] <kleinebaas> flabbergaster: please explain what happens when you try to open it
#1078 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> kleinebaas - Yes, delete the shortcut from the desktop, and remove the folder from... C:\programdata
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#1080 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> I believe..
#1081 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> drewdogg - Does the same thing happen with the downloadable client as well?
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#1084 [12:26] <krebbit> my minecraft is lagging a lot i need help!!!
#1085 [12:27] <izzd> whats ur fps krebbit?
#1086 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> Try turning down some of the video options in minecraft
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#1088 [12:27] <AureliusM> krebbit: system specs? CPU and GPU
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#1090 [12:27] <krebbit> what is fps?
#1091 [12:28] <drewdog> Sorry I got disconnected but I am back on
#1092 [12:28] <izzd> hit f3 and lokk for fps
#1093 [12:28] <izzd> look*
#1094 [12:28] <flabbergaster> minecraft isnt opening nothing comes up i brought it from minecraft.net about 1.3 hours ago how should i fix it i have tryed uploading up again but that didnt work
#1095 [12:28] <mib_og6huh> why is it when i mine ore or redblocks nothing ever drops?
#1096 [12:28] <AureliusM> krebbit: Check your graphics card driver control panel has set advanced graphics for java
#1097 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> mib_og6huh - You need better picks. To get iron, you need stone picks, to get diamond, you need iron picks
#1098 [12:29] <mib_og6huh> where can i find iron then?
#1099 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Underground
#1100 [12:30] <mib_og6huh> wut color?
#1101 [12:30] <flabbergaster> minecraft isnt opening nothing comes up i brought it from minecraft.net about 1.3 hours ago how should i fix it i have tryed uploading up again but that didnt work
#1102 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> yellow/orangish?
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#1104 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - What operating system?
#1105 [12:30] <mib_og6huh> hmmmm ill try it thanks!
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#1107 [12:31] <flabbergaster> windows
#1108 [12:31] <flabbergaster> 7
#1109 [12:31] <drewdog> Flabbergaster, thats the same problem I am having but I bought it last night
#1110 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Does the minecraft launcher run at all?
#1111 [12:31] <kleinebaas> mib_og6huh: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Iron_ore
#1112 [12:32] <flabbergaster> no
#1113 [12:32] <flabbergaster> nothing comes up
#1114 [12:33] <Dubb> Could anyone recommend a mod other than single player commands that will allow me to give myself xp or enchanted items? My SSP world crashed while I had a fortune III, unbreaking III, efficiency V pick and a nice sword as well :(
#1115 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> Could you please try running minecraft with these instructions: eb
#1116 [12:33] <Dubb> and SPC doesn't want to cooperate with me on OS X 10.5
#1117 [12:33] <AureliusM> ??> Dubb mods
#1118 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Dubb - We don't exactly help with mods around here
#1119 [12:34] <VoxelHead> Dubb: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1120 [12:34] <VoxelHead> Dubb: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1121 [12:34] <joesdad> Im on windows7 downloaded game but it freezes every 10 sec or so
#1122 [12:34] <flabbergaster> what instruction
#1123 [12:34] <joesdad> ?
#1124 [12:34] <Dubb> is there a #minecraftmods channel or something?
#1125 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#1126 [12:34] <clarjon1> Dubb: The best place to get support for a mod is from it's forum topic.
#1127 [12:34] <kleinebaas> Dubb: check out #RisuCraft
#1128 [12:34] <flabbergaster> thanks
#1129 [12:34] <Dubb> kleinebaas: ok thanks
#1130 [12:34] <Boreeas> Dubb: Try #risucraft
#1131 [12:35] <clarjon1> Dubb: That way, you know that the mod author will see it -- and who better to get support from than the mod author, yes?
#1132 [12:35] <Boreeas> kleinebaas: Ninja :(
#1133 [12:35] <kleinebaas> :)
#1134 [12:35] <Dubb> clarjon1: true
#1135 [12:35] <clarjon1> Dubb: Read the mod topic page -- perhaps the mod author has a special channel set up for support on IRC :) Some mod authors do you know :)
#1136 [12:36] <Dubb> thanks, I will :)
#1137 [12:36] <AureliusM> joesdad: system specs? CPU and graphics card model?
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#1139 [12:38] <AureliusM> joesdad: does it always freeze every 10 seconds? Set video options lower to Render Distance Short, Graphics to Fast and see if it changes
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#1141 [12:39] <mib_gvbwp3> guys im back with a question... theres a strange room under ground with a large chest and a strange rotating zombie in a cage thats on fire!
#1142 [12:39] <izzd> lol
#1143 [12:39] <hannabee> I am trying to run minecraft but evrey time i press run it dosent load it
#1144 [12:40] <kleinebaas> mib_gvbwp3: you're in a dungeon. On everything but peaceful, the cage spawns zombies every 7 seconds or so. They are naturally generated.
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#1146 [12:40] <mib_gvbwp3> hmmm im glad i set peacful!
#1147 [12:40] <drewdog> GreyVulpine, I ran it through your site, but when I double click on it, there is a flash of black then it goes away.
#1148 [12:40] <mib_zrgc22> hi
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#1150 [12:40] <AureliusM> hannabee: did you download the minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/download ?
#1151 [12:40] <mib_zrgc22> how to get a minecon skin?
#1152 [12:40] <mib_zrgc22> cape^^
#1153 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> mib_zrgc22 - Did you go to Minecon?
#1154 [12:41] <hannabee> yes i di
#1155 [12:41] <mib_zrgc22> yes
#1156 [12:41] <hannabee> did
#1157 [12:41] <mib_gvbwp3> whats that?
#1158 [12:41] <hannabee> yes yes i did
#1159 [12:41] <mib_zrgc22> i was there
#1160 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> mib_zrgc22 - Then send an email to help@mojang.com
#1161 [12:41] <mib_zrgc22> ty
#1162 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> drewdog - Go back to the .bat file, make sure you have two lines in there, pause should be on the 2nd line by itself
#1163 [12:41] <AureliusM> hannabee: and you double-click the minecraft.exe file on your desktop? And then what happens?
#1164 [12:41] <kleinebaas> mib_gvbwp3: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Dungeons <- wiki post about dungeons
#1165 [12:41] <mib_gvbwp3> thanks bye!
#1166 [12:41] <hannabee> let me see
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#1168 [12:42] <hannabee> I worked thanks
#1169 [12:42] <AureliusM> hannabee: What was the problem?
#1170 [12:43] <mib_gvbwp3> wow thats amazing! i found somthing rare!
#1171 [12:43] <hannabee> it worked thanks
#1172 [12:43] <chidun> Tried to pay for an account for my son but when I tried it said to send a verified identification. Tried a different credit card same thing and now account is locked. Don't want to pay for call to UK. Any ideas?
#1173 [12:43] <AureliusM> hannabee: Oj, ok, glad to have helped.
#1174 [12:43] <hannabee> Um it not working
#1175 [12:44] <hannabee> no it is thanks
#1176 [12:44] <AureliusM> hannabee: ?
#1177 [12:44] <mib_zrgc22> is it too late to get the minecon cape?
#1178 [12:44] <chidun> Anyone have email address for account issues?
#1179 [12:44] <kleinebaas> chidun: We are not affiliated with Mojang and cannot help with account issues.
#1180 [12:44] <Boreeas> chidun: help@mojang.com
#1181 [12:45] <Boreeas> kleinebaas: That's why he asked for an email address
#1182 [12:45] <flabbergaster> Greyvulpine it now sayes could not find the main class net.minecraft.launcherframe. programe will exit.
#1183 [12:45] <AureliusM> chidun: we don't do account support here, contact the payment provider and your credit card company
#1184 [12:45] <kleinebaas> boreeas: this time you were quicker ;)
#1185 [12:45] <Boreeas> flabbergaster: Reinstall minecraft
#1186 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Did you download minecraft.jar from minecraft.net/download and place it in the same folder as the bat?
#1187 [12:45] <flabbergaster> i have tryed but it didnt work#
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#1189 [12:45] <flabbergaster> yes
#1190 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> Made sure it's named minecraft.jar exactly?
#1191 [12:46] <flabbergaster> yea
#1192 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> Then something's wrong. You either didn't place the .bat file in the same folder as the minecraft.jar, or the minecraft.jar isn't named exactly that
#1193 [12:53] <kleinebaas> et agin, le IRC turns idle :P
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#1195 [12:54] <flabbergaster> GreyVulpine i done what it said but i doubble clicked to run it it worked then it said press any key to countine i pressed space bar then it closed and nothing happened
#1196 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - What does it say before "PRess any key to continue"?
#1197 [12:56] <flabbergaster> yea it sayes "Press any key to coutinue . . .
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#1199 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> What does it say before that?
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#1201 [12:58] <xptical> Hi all, Ubuntu x64 user here. Java 1.7. Minecraft 1.0. Modded with YogBox. When it rains, my sound starts freaking out. Any ideas?
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#1203 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> ?? mods
#1204 [12:58] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1205 [12:58] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1206 [12:58] <flabbergaster> could not find the main class: net.minecraft.launcherframe. programme will exit
#1207 [12:58] <mib_hu11cn> my minecraft keeps shuting down
#1208 [12:58] <flabbergaster> and java
#1209 [12:58] <mib_hu11cn> i dont know why
#1210 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Alright. Look in the folder where you have Run.bat
#1211 [12:58] <Andy> I bought the game vis credit card and got a confirmation. But I did not get the game downloaded ....How do I now get the game???
#1212 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Tell me exactly, what files are there
#1213 [12:58] <flabbergaster> k
#1214 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> Andy - http://www.minecraft.net/download
#1215 [12:59] <mib_hu11cn> my minecraft keeps shutting down like just exiting
#1216 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_hu11cn - Do you get any error messages? Any files named hs_err-pid?
#1217 [13:00] <mib_hu11cn> yes ill go see wht is says
#1218 [13:01] <flabbergaster> Grey vulpine minecraft- shortcut, new text document, Run
#1219 [13:01] <mib_hu11cn> java (TM) platform se binary has stoped working
#1220 [13:01] <kleinebaas> andy: go to minecraft.net/download
#1221 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - minecraft-shortcut?
#1222 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - When the instructions told you to download minecraft.jar, what exactly did you do instead?
#1223 [13:01] <flabbergaster> yes
#1224 [13:02] <mib_hu11cn> i just go to my programs and hit the minecraft
#1225 [13:02] <mib_hu11cn> then i log in and it has a loading bar then goes to tht message
#1226 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_hu11cn - Is there more than that error message?
#1227 [13:03] <Andy> when I go to minecraft download they ask me again to buy the game ...??
#1228 [13:03] <flabbergaster> i went to the link underneath and downloaded what was there
#1229 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> Andy - What is your minecraft username?
#1230 [13:03] <kleinebaas> andy: you buyed an account and buyed minecraft then, right?
#1231 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - And how did you place the minecraft.jar into the folder?
#1232 [13:04] <mib_hu11cn> it says under that "A problem caused the program to stop working correctly"
#1233 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> mib_hu11cn - Try an uninstall/reinstall of java from your computer. Go to your start menu -> control panel and uninstall java from there. You can then reinstall it from java.com
#1234 [13:04] <Andy> my username is andreasall
#1235 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> !paid andreasall
#1236 [13:05] <mib_hu11cn> what is java?
#1237 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't look like the payment has reached Mojang yet, Andy. I'd first call your bank or credit card, make sure payment has been made on their end.
#1238 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_hu11cn - Java is what Minecraft runs under.
#1239 [13:05] <flabbergaster> i placed it to the destop and made a new folder and put it in the folder
#1240 [13:05] <mib_hu11cn> ok so what should i do again?
#1241 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Did you move it, or create a shortcut?
#1242 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_hu11cn - Try an uninstall/reinstall of java from your computer. Go to your start menu -> control panel and uninstall java from there. You can then reinstall it from java.com
#1243 [13:05] <mib_hu11cn> ok thank you i will try
#1244 [13:05] <flabbergaster> moved it
#1245 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - What is the name of the minecraft.jar file right now?
#1246 [13:06] <Andy> Okay, i will try the payment again ...It is strange, because I got the confirmation that the payment was succesful...Thank you!
#1247 [13:06] <mib_hu11cn> how so i uninstall it?
#1248 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> mib_hu11cn - Do you see Add/remove programs, or Programs and features?
#1249 [13:07] <flabbergaster> minecraft shortcut thats what it was called when i uploaded it
#1250 [13:07] <mib_hu11cn> i clicked controll pannel and its at th controll panel home
#1251 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_hu11cn - Do you see Add/remove programs, or Programs and features in the control panel home?
#1252 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - It shouldn't be a shortcut
#1253 [13:08] <mib_hu11cn> i see a program one
#1254 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Go to your desktop, copy it over
#1255 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_hu11cn - Go into that one.
#1256 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_hu11cn - Go inside, look for anything relating to java, and uninstall it all. Then reinstall java fresh from java.com. This ensures you have the latest java, with no corrupt files.
#1257 [13:08] <mib_hu11cn> ok
#1258 [13:08] <flabbergaster> its on my descop now
#1259 [13:09] <flabbergaster> *destop
#1260 [13:09] <mib_hu11cn> ok i see java and wen i right click on it it has open and creat short cut
#1261 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_hu11cn - You're not in your control panel.
#1262 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Right click on minecraft.jar, choose "Copy", go to the folder, and choose "Paste" from the right click menu
#1263 [13:10] <mib_hu11cn> oh yea i just hit programs and features i understand now thank u so much for you help
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#1265 [13:13] <flabbergaster> i have to go ill be back in 20 mins
#1266 [13:16] <krebbit> when i type fps n0thing comes up?
#1267 [13:17] <krebbit> :s i need help
#1268 [13:17] <AureliusM> krebbit: To see FPS in minecraft press the F3 key
#1269 [13:18] <AureliusM> krebbit: what problem are you having? Error message? Slow display?
#1270 [13:18] <krebbit> my fps is mostly 10
#1271 [13:19] <AureliusM> krebbit: in video options reduce Render distance to Normal or Short
#1272 [13:19] <AureliusM> krebbit: 10 is what I get with Normal. What is your computer model and graphics card model?
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#1274 [13:21] <AureliusM> krebbit: To improve Minecraft's FPS: ensure graphics card set to Advanced for java; set Graphics Fast, Advanced OpenGL OFF, Clouds OFF, Particles minimal, Render distance Short or Tiny.
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#1279 [13:31] <flabbergaster> greyvulpine i have re done the instructions and now its just minecraft not minecraft-shortcut
#1280 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> And what happens when you run the Run.bat file now?
#1281 [13:31] <flabbergaster> the same thing
#1282 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the minecraft.jar file again from the link
#1283 [13:32] <flabbergaster> ok
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#1285 [13:34] <Reggie> its me again
#1286 [13:35] <Reggie> AureliusM: still same
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#1288 [13:38] <flabbergaster> ive just ran the .bat. file and it sayes press any key is there a certain key
#1289 [13:39] <flabbergaster> because last time i did it just closed
#1290 [13:40] <flabbergaster> i pressed spacebar last time
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#1292 [13:41] <flabbergaster> Greyvulpine is there a certain butten
#1293 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> No.
#1294 [13:41] <flabbergaster> ok#
#1295 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> I need to know what it says before that
#1296 [13:42] <flabbergaster> ok
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#1298 [13:44] <mib_ok1qdo> i bought minecraft but its not premium what do i do??????
#1299 [13:44] <Pix> whats your username mib_ok1qdo
#1300 [13:45] <mib_ok1qdo> dont have 1
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#1302 [13:45] <dervishkid> anyone home;)?
#1303 [13:45] <Pix> if you bought minecraft, you have one
#1304 [13:45] <TheNoodle> mib_ok1qdo, did you purchase a giftcode?
#1305 [13:46] <mib_ok1qdo> ya but i cant log in i have the right password and username and no i didnt buy a gift code
#1306 [13:46] <Pix> what is your username
#1307 [13:46] <dervishkid> hey all i ran in to a issue with my server. i got a area that can't be mined or built on. it just resets
#1308 [13:46] <mib_ok1qdo> y?
#1309 [13:46] <Pix> so we can check
#1310 [13:46] <dervishkid> all i gotten to work is blowing the crap out of it with tnt
#1311 [13:46] <Pix> !check notch
#1312 [13:46] <Pix> ops ^^"
#1313 [13:46] <Reggie> i have 2 java-folder. how can i see which is for 32bit and which for 64bit?
#1314 [13:46] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
#1315 [13:46] <Pix> !haspaid notch
#1316 [13:47] <Grim_Reaper> Everytime somebody does !check some random person (death) is highlighted on irc.
#1317 [13:47] <dervishkid> anyone got a ideal what i can do about it?
#1318 [13:47] <mib_ok1qdo> so what do i do pix
#1319 [13:47] <Pix> what is your username
#1320 [13:47] <mib_ok1qdo> i cant tell ya that
#1321 [13:48] <Pix> yes you can o.o
#1322 [13:48] <Grim_Reaper> You can mib_mic0vi
#1323 [13:48] <Grim_Reaper> Without it we cant check if you've paid or not
#1324 [13:48] <mib_ok1qdo> i dont know u tho
#1325 [13:48] <Pix> >.>
#1326 [13:48] <Grim_Reaper> For example
#1327 [13:48] <Grim_Reaper> !paid Grimster101
#1328 [13:48] <mib_ok1qdo> i have i checked my email
#1329 [13:48] <Grim_Reaper> !paid blahblasds
#1330 [13:48] <Pix> !paid ipixely
#1331 [13:48] <dervishkid> !paid derivshkid
#1332 [13:48] <dervishkid> lies!
#1333 [13:48] <Pix> mib_ok1qdo what is your username
#1334 [13:49] <Grim_Reaper> So we cant help you if you cant give us your username
#1335 [13:49] <Grim_Reaper> We dont want your password or anything
#1336 [13:49] <TheNoodle> mib_ok1qdo, I'm an official helper, you can tell me your username.
#1337 [13:49] <dervishkid> arrghh this is annoying.
#1338 [13:49] <dervishkid> anyone got a clue how to deal with .. not sure what to call it
#1339 [13:50] <mib_ok1qdo> i hav allready paid if seen it in my email
#1340 [13:50] <dervishkid> none-mineable-----buildable block areas....
#1341 [13:50] <TheNoodle> mib_ok1qdo, I need your username
#1342 [13:50] <Pix> mib_ok1qdo the reason we need you username is because the bots here can check a different database to see if you have been 'made' premium yet
#1343 [13:51] <mib_ok1qdo> i cant tell u i dont know if your hackers or not
#1344 [13:51] <dervishkid> i search the furoms and wiki can't find anything on it
#1345 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_mic0vi - If you don't trust us to help you, why did you come here for help?
#1346 [13:51] <flabbergaster> it sayes exciption in threat "main"java.lang no suchmethoderror: disposelater at java awt.component initIDs < Native method> at java awt.component. <clinint> <unknowen source > could not find the main: net.minecraft.launcherframe .
#1347 [13:51] <TheNoodle> ily GreyVulpine
#1348 [13:52] <flabbergaster> component will exit
#1349 [13:52] <mib_ok1qdo> cuz i dont know what kind of site this is
#1350 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Copy the whole thing to pastebin.com and submit it
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#1352 [13:52] <TheNoodle> mib_ok1qdo, you were linked here from minecraft.net correct?
#1353 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> mib_ok1qdo - This is a community-run support channel, endorsed by Mojang.
#1354 [13:52] <flabbergaster> it wont let me
#1355 [13:52] <Grim_Reaper> Yes
#1356 [13:53] <Grim_Reaper> Also anybody with a + or @ next to their name are official helpers
#1357 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Looks like a Java error. Please uninstall and reinstall java
#1358 [13:53] <mib_ok1qdo> i told u that it told me i already paid
#1359 [13:53] <mib_ok1qdo> i told u that it told me i already paid
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#1361 [13:53] <flabbergaster> ok
#1362 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> mib_ok1qdo - And what happens when you try to run minecraft and log in?
#1363 [13:53] <Pix> If someone does anything hack related then esper bans :D
#1364 [13:53] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1365 [13:53] <TheNoodle> ^ !=
#1366 [13:53] <dervishkid> !paid dervishkid
#1367 [13:53] <dervishkid> yay:)
#1368 [13:53] <dervishkid> anyway
#1369 [13:54] <Grim_Reaper> So a friend gifted me terraria on steam ._.
#1370 [13:54] <mib_ok1qdo> i think yall r just typeing that youve paid
#1371 [13:54] <Pix> its a bot o.o
#1372 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> mib_ok1qdo - If you don't want help, please don't waste our time.
#1373 [13:54] <Grim_Reaper> Ok mib_mic0vi
#1374 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> The door is over there ->
#1375 [13:54] <Grim_Reaper> If you cannot trust us
#1376 [13:55] <Grim_Reaper> Please leave and email help@mojang.com
#1377 [13:55] <|Kiichan|> mib_mic0vi: aubot checks the with minecraft.net with whatever username was given
#1378 [13:55] <Grim_Reaper> If you're not willing to let us help you. Then you can leave
#1379 [13:55] <Pix> mib_ok1qdo do ./join ##crow ill show you how its a bot
#1380 [13:55] <Pix> mib_ok1qdo do ./join ##crow ill show you how its a bot
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#1382 [13:55] <Grim_Reaper> I dont blame him for not trusting. But crickey. He needs to learn the difference between people who cant be trusted and those who can
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#1384 [13:56] <Pix> mhm
#1385 [13:56] <dervishkid> well anyone got any clue on this buged area on my server:)
#1386 [13:56] <Grim_Reaper> Least he gave me a laugh though
#1387 [13:56] <Reggie> i have 2 java-folder. how can i see which is for 32bit and which for 64bit?
#1388 [13:56] <Pix> ikr
#1389 [13:56] <Grim_Reaper> dervishkid fill me in
#1390 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Reggie - What operating system?
#1391 [13:56] <Reggie> Vista64
#1392 [13:56] <dervishkid> i got a area of the map that can't be mine ( blocked removed) or built on ( blocks added) when you try it goes thru like it should but then reset
#1393 [13:57] <Grim_Reaper> C:\program files\ is 64bit area. c:\(86) program files\ is 32bit
#1394 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> If there's a Java folder in c:\program files\, it's 64 bit java. If there's a java folder in C:\program files (x86), it's 32 bit java
#1395 [13:57] <Grim_Reaper> is it near your spawn point
#1396 [13:57] <Reggie> i have no java folder in program files
#1397 [13:57] <dervishkid> so if oyu place say stone it goes back in to your invo,
#1398 [13:57] <dervishkid> oo ya know it might be
#1399 [13:57] <Reggie> one is program files x86, one is g:\java
#1400 [13:57] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#1401 [13:57] <dervishkid> humm if i moved the spawn point would that help?
#1402 [13:57] <|Kiichan|> dervishkid: if you op yourseflon the server you shoudl bebale to
#1403 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Reggie - The one in x86 is 32 b it java. g:\java is not a default directory for java
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#1405 [13:58] <dervishkid> i tryed that kiii
#1406 [13:58] <dervishkid> turn on creative mode and still no luck
#1407 [13:58] <dervishkid> but odd part is i can blow it up with tnt
#1408 [13:58] <|Kiichan|> hmm... bukkit server with mods?
#1409 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1410 [13:58] <hello> hey its me agian pix im ready to give u my username
#1411 [13:58] <dervishkid> no base server
#1412 [13:58] <Pix> o.o
#1413 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> Perhaps try creating the world
#1414 [13:59] <|Kiichan|> it really sounds like spawn zone protection..
#1415 [13:59] * Grim_Reaper agrees with |Kiichan|
#1415 [13:59] <dervishkid> no mods. running 32bit 1gig memory .jar verson
#1416 [13:59] <Pix> okay double click me if you dont want everyone seeing it hello
#1417 [13:59] <hello> so can u help me
#1418 [13:59] <Reggie> so the java on G is the 64bit?
#1419 [13:59] <|Kiichan|> dervishkid: you runnign the server there?
#1420 [13:59] <dervishkid> it's running on the pc next to me;)
#1421 [13:59] <flabbergaster> it sayes when i was reinstalling java that the download failed
#1422 [14:00] <dervishkid> if it is spawn guarding. how can i go about moving the spawn.. i bet using a bed would not move the defualt spawn area...
#1423 [14:00] <Pix> IT says helllo's accoutn hasnt been paid
#1424 [14:00] <Pix> *it
#1425 [14:01] <dervishkid> and why would spawn guard let me blow it up with tnt lol
#1426 [14:01] <TheNoodle> ??> hello payment
#1427 [14:01] <VoxelHead> hello: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1428 [14:01] <|Kiichan|> dervishkid: mcedit coudl probably move spawn.
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#1430 [14:01] <VoxelHead> hello: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#1431 [14:01] <|Kiichan|> dervishkid: and the areas protected from players building or destroying it... not from tnt explosions :P
#1432 [14:02] <dervishkid> so i should find MCedit and try that then
#1433 [14:02] <|Kiichan|> ?? mcedit
#1434 [14:02] <VoxelHead> mcedit: http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/download.html
#1435 [14:03] <Pix> how long has it been since you paid hello
#1436 [14:03] <Reggie> GreyVulpine: i deinstalled the 64bit java and will reinstall into program files right now
#1437 [14:03] <dervishkid> humm i should shut down the server i bet before running this lol
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#1439 [14:04] <Xubuntu> help!
#1440 [14:04] <Pix> hello bought it in sept!
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#1444 [14:07] <flabbergaster> Greyvulpine what should i do
#1445 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1446 [14:07] <Pix> hello: i bought it in september! Pix: go email help@mojang.com o.o Pix: and check your bank statements to make sure it did charge you Pix: in the email Pix: give them the tracking number if there is one hello: and i already did that hello: i sent them the support email Pix: did you get a reply? hello: nope
#1447 [14:08] <flabbergaster> about the java installment because it didnt work
#1448 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> Pix - Then it's out of our hands. help@mojang.com gets quite a few emails every day.
#1449 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> All we can do, is tell them to wait for a response
#1450 [14:08] <Pix> dang..
#1451 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Are you not able to uninstall java? Reinstall java?
#1452 [14:09] <flabbergaster> i uninstalled it i went to reinstall it but it said installment failedf
#1453 [14:09] <flabbergaster> i uninstalled it i went to reinstall it but it said installment failedf
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#1455 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Did you get any error message from java?
#1456 [14:10] <flabbergaster> yes it said installment failed
#1457 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> Did it say anything else? Did it give you a specific error number or id or a more verbose error message?
#1458 [14:11] <dervishkid> hey guys thanks for the help that fixed it up very nice. and i can make a good spawn room for the server now;)
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#1460 [14:17] <flabbergaster> Greyvulpine it sayesfrom=http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/get file1.6.0._30-b12/windows-i586/jre1.6.0._30-c-l.msi/
#1461 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Could you download the java offline installer from:
#1462 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> ?? java
#1463 [14:22] <VoxelHead> java: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html
#1464 [14:23] <flabbergaster> Greyvulpine it worked i reinstalledit
#1465 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Alright. Could you try minecraft again?
#1466 [14:23] <flabbergaster> yes i will
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#1468 [14:24] <kendle> Hello i was here before and i was told to reinstall java because my minecraft wasent working but that didnt work it is still acting up
#1469 [14:25] <Grim_Reaper> Did you uninstall java first before reinstalling?
#1470 [14:25] <kendle> Yes
#1471 [14:25] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm
#1472 [14:25] <Grim_Reaper> Who helped you previously?
#1473 [14:26] <kendle> im not sure i believe andy i might be wrong
#1474 [14:26] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm
#1475 [14:26] <Grim_Reaper> So what happens when you try play?
#1476 [14:27] <kendle> it attimaticly exits and a message pops up
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#1479 [14:27] <flabbergaster> Grayvulpine minecraft sayed it needs java so i tryed java and an error message came up it was error 25025
#1480 [14:28] <Calo4562> Minecraft 1.0 freezing: Minecraft freezes about 5-30 min. after I start playing multiplayer or singleplayer. Once it freezes it stays frozen. This started happening when I switched computers, but the one it's on now is much better then the one before it. Any ideas on why it's doing this?
#1481 [14:29] <flabbergaster> im going to restart my computer
#1482 [14:29] <kendle> the message is "Java(TM) Platform SE binary has stopped working"
#1483 [14:30] <AureliusM> Calo4562: does the java process hang with about 50% CPU use? Did you start any other programs running in those 5-30 minutes?
#1484 [14:31] <AureliusM> Calo4562: specs of both machines? How much RAM each has for example.
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#1487 [14:33] <shmoo> I am trying to host a server, I did ALL of the steps right, it says the connection is good, I try to go in and I get this: COnnection lost, the server responded with an invalid server key
#1488 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> Use the minecraft_server.jar, not the .exe
#1489 [14:35] <shmoo> How do you use a .Jar>
#1490 [14:35] <shmoo> *?
#1491 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> The .exe runs 1.0.0, which has that error. It's been fixed in the 1.0.1 .jar
#1492 [14:36] <shmoo> Well, how do I open the .Jar?
#1493 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> shmoo - Download minecraft_server.jar from www.minecraft.net/download to the folder where you have the server
#1494 [14:36] <shmoo> Ok
#1495 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> shmoo - In the same folder, right-click and choose New -> text document
#1496 [14:37] <shmoo> Where DO I have the folder?
#1497 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Where do you have the server located at?
#1498 [14:37] <mib_zrgc22> need help GeryVulpine? im bored
#1499 [14:37] <shmoo> Idk
#1500 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> shmoo - Then download minecraft_server.jar to a folder on your desktop
#1501 [14:38] <shmoo> Ok
#1502 [14:39] <shmoo> Working on that now
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#1504 [14:39] <shmoo> @Greyvulpine - Done
#1505 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> shmoo - Alright. Go to that same folder. Right click inside, choose New -> text document
#1506 [14:40] <shmoo> ok
#1507 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> Open up that text document
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#1509 [14:41] <shmoo> SO on the desktop crwate a document?
#1510 [14:41] <shmoo> Or in the jar?
#1511 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> Where you have the .jar
#1512 [14:41] <shmoo> Ok
#1513 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> It's recommended that you put the .jar in a folder, as it'll create new files
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#1515 [14:41] <shmoo> Done
#1516 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> In the text document, put: java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#1517 [14:42] <kendle> my minecraft still isint working
#1518 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> shmoo - have you put that in?
#1519 [14:43] <shmoo> Done
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#1521 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> shmoo - Alright. Go up to file -> save as:
#1522 [14:44] <shmoo> Saved
#1523 [14:44] <shmoo> What do I save it as?
#1524 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> Gah, no, not yet
#1525 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you're saving it in the folder where you have the minecraft_server.jar, name it exactly as "Run.bat" with the quotes
#1526 [14:44] <shmoo> Ok
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#1528 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> Close the text document, then double click on Run.bat
#1529 [14:45] <shmoo> Ok
#1530 [14:45] <shmoo> Yet, nothing happens
#1531 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> shmoo - Right click on Run.bat, choose edit.
#1532 [14:46] <shmoo> ok
#1533 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> Put in a second line, pause
#1534 [14:46] <shmoo> It is in a notepad thing now
#1535 [14:46] <shmoo> Ok
#1536 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> Save it, run it again
#1537 [14:47] <shmoo> :D
#1538 [14:47] <shmoo> I hit a key and it closed :P
#1539 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Run it, don't press a key
#1540 [14:47] <shmoo> ok
#1541 [14:47] <shmoo> What now?
#1542 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a black command prompt window?
#1543 [14:47] <shmoo> Yes
#1544 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> What does that command prompt say?
#1545 [14:47] <shmoo> Says press any key to continue
#1546 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> What does it say above that?
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#1548 [14:48] <shmoo> Can I shorten it down?
#1549 [14:48] <shmoo> Minecraft Server> Pause
#1550 [14:48] <shmoo> How to change name lol?
#1551 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> /nick newnick
#1552 [14:49] <NintendoGamerBoy> tAhhh, that's better
#1553 [14:49] <NintendoGamerBoy> *ahhhh
#1554 [14:49] <NintendoGamerBoy> Anyways
#1555 [14:49] <NintendoGamerBoy> Minecraft Server> Pause
#1556 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> Is that it?
#1557 [14:50] <NintendoGamerBoy> C:/Users/User/Desktop/Minecraft Server?Pause
#1558 [14:50] <NintendoGamerBoy> *> not ?
#1559 [14:50] <NintendoGamerBoy> I DID COLON SLASH NOT :/
#1560 [14:50] <NintendoGamerBoy> Abtways
#1561 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#1562 [14:50] <NintendoGamerBoy> *anyways
#1563 [14:50] <flabber> hi GaryVulpine it is me from earleyer my mineccraft wasent doing anything then java didnt install but I FINNALY GOT MINECRAFT WORKING THANK YOU SOO MUCH :D
#1564 [14:51] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1564 [14:51] <NintendoGamerBoy> C:Users/User/Desktop/Minecraft Server>Pause
#1565 [14:51] <NintendoGamerBoy> That's better
#1566 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - And before that?
#1567 [14:51] <flabber> THANKYOU GUYS AMAZING JOB
#1568 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Do you see something like "Java is not recognized as a...."
#1569 [14:52] <NintendoGamerBoy> '-xms1024M' is not recongnised as an internal or external command, operable program or hatch file
#1570 [14:53] <NintendoGamerBoy> @GreyVulpine that is what it said
#1571 [14:53] <NintendoGamerBoy> BRB
#1572 [14:57] <NintendoGamerBoy> back
#1573 [14:57] <NintendoGamerBoy> @GreyVulpine I am back
#1574 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Go back to the run.bat file. Please right click on it, choose edit.
#1575 [14:57] <NintendoGamerBoy> Opened
#1576 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Make sure the first line says: java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#1577 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> There's a space between java and -Xms
#1578 [14:58] <NintendoGamerBoy> LOL I forgot the java part
#1579 [14:58] <NintendoGamerBoy> I added that o
#1580 [14:58] <NintendoGamerBoy> *on
#1581 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Resave it, run Run.bat agin
#1582 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> again*
#1583 [14:58] <NintendoGamerBoy> Now it says java thing
#1584 [14:59] <NintendoGamerBoy> java not recognised as blah bleh blargh blha
#1585 [14:59] <NintendoGamerBoy> ... uthere?
#1586 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Yeah. Moment.
#1587 [15:00] <NintendoGamerBoy> java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#1588 [15:00] <NintendoGamerBoy> pause
#1589 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - What version of windows are you on?
#1590 [15:00] <NintendoGamerBoy> 7
#1591 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu for a second, right click on "Computer" and go to properties.
#1592 [15:00] <NintendoGamerBoy> tA windows 7 OS
#1593 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Look at System type, do you see 32 or 64 bit there?
#1594 [15:01] <NintendoGamerBoy> Lemme check
#1595 [15:01] <NintendoGamerBoy> Where is system type?
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#1597 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu for a second, right click on "Computer" and go to properties.
#1598 [15:02] <NintendoGamerBoy> 64 bit
#1599 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Close that. Go back to the Run.bat file, edit it again.
#1600 [15:02] <NintendoGamerBoy> ok
#1601 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Change the first line from:
#1602 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#1603 [15:02] <NintendoGamerBoy> to what?
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#1606 [15:03] <NintendoGamerBoy> Grey?
#1607 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> •TomRone• "c:\program files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#1608 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> er
#1609 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> To: "c:\program files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#1610 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> Include those quotes.
#1611 [15:03] <NintendoGamerBoy> Saved
#1612 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Now run Run.bat
#1613 [15:04] <NintendoGamerBoy> Unable to access jarfile minecraft_server.jar
#1614 [15:04] <NintendoGamerBoy> That's what it says
#1615 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Do you have minecraft_server.jar in the same place as the Run.bat file?
#1616 [15:04] <NintendoGamerBoy> a
#1617 [15:04] <NintendoGamerBoy> *ya
#1618 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't see it.
#1619 [15:05] <NintendoGamerBoy> ??? you can access my files?
#1620 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> I cannot.
#1621 [15:05] <NintendoGamerBoy> ok hold on plz
#1622 [15:06] <NintendoGamerBoy> So what can I do to fix it?
#1623 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Redownload minecraft_server.jar from minecraft.net/download
#1624 [15:06] <NintendoGamerBoy> Ok :C
#1625 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> make sure it's named exactly "minecraft_server.jar", and place it in the folder with your Run.bat file
#1626 [15:07] <NintendoGamerBoy> Ok
#1627 [15:07] <NintendoGamerBoy> Do I need to delete the meta inf?
#1628 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Um, no?
#1629 [15:07] <NintendoGamerBoy> Ok
#1630 [15:08] <NintendoGamerBoy> I renamed it
#1631 [15:08] <NintendoGamerBoy> It is a .zip file though :I
#1632 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> .zip? Why.. a .zip?
#1633 [15:08] <Boreeas> :?
#1634 [15:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> is the jar inside the zip?
#1635 [15:08] <NintendoGamerBoy> Idk
#1636 [15:08] <NintendoGamerBoy> Idk
#1637 [15:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> <_>
#1638 [15:08] <NintendoGamerBoy> Lemme check
#1639 [15:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> unzip whatever u have
#1640 [15:08] <NintendoGamerBoy> ok
#1641 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> No.. don't unzip.
#1642 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> You've got the wrong file
#1643 [15:09] <Boreeas> Do it, work it, make it, zip it
#1644 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Go to http://www.minecraft.net/download
#1645 [15:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> harder better faster stronger
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#1647 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> Look at the very bottom of the page. do you see a link for minecraft_server.jar
#1648 [15:09] <Boreeas> NintendoGamerBoy: You need this one: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe or this one: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar?
#1649 [15:10] <NintendoGamerBoy> It still downloads to my computer as a .zip file
#1650 [15:10] * AureliusM saw another user claim to get a zip when they tried to download the minecraft_server.jar - maybe Windows browser is doing it?
#1650 [15:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> maybe whatever software he has is recognising the jar as a zip
#1651 [15:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> which it kinda is
#1652 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Place that file into the folder where you have Run.bat
#1653 [15:11] <NintendoGamerBoy> @Greyvulpine I extracted the files
#1654 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Now, right click on that f...
#1655 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Don't extract the files
#1656 [15:11] <NintendoGamerBoy> AHHHH D:
#1657 [15:11] <NintendoGamerBoy> Brb
#1658 [15:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol
#1659 [15:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> whats going on here
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#1661 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Trying to get NintendoGamerBoy to run the minecraft_server.jar with a batch file
#1662 [15:12] <AureliusM> Could it be Internet Explorer does the zip thing?
#1663 [15:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> why are you using IE is a good first q :p
#1664 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> Nah, might just be winzip/rar/whatever associating .jar with it
#1665 [15:12] <NintendoGamerBoy> Ok it is back
#1666 [15:13] <NintendoGamerBoy> And I don't have winzip
#1667 [15:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> 7zip?
#1668 [15:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> winrar?
#1669 [15:13] <Boreeas> "You have chosen to open "minecraft_server.jar" which is a: Excecutable Jar File"
#1670 [15:13] <Boreeas> Where is the problem?
#1671 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Right click on the minecraft_server file. Please go to properties. What does it say the file type is?
#1672 [15:13] <NintendoGamerBoy> Compressed (zipped) Folder (.zip)
#1673 [15:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> O.o
#1674 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> What in the world...
#1675 [15:13] <Boreeas> wat
#1676 [15:14] <Calo4562> Minecraft 1.0 Freezing: Minecraft freezes about 5-30 min. after I start playing multiplayer or singleplayer. Once it freezes it stays frozen. This started happening when I switched computers, but the one it's on now is much better then the one before it. Any ideas on why it's doing this? Java hangs at 50% cpu usage and I never opened any other programs.
#1677 [15:14] <AureliusM> What browser are you using Nintendo?
#1678 [15:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok right
#1679 [15:14] <Boreeas> NintendoGamerBoy: Out of curiosity, try renaming it to a .jar
#1680 [15:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> IE dls it as a zip
#1681 [15:14] <NintendoGamerBoy> Internet browser?
#1682 [15:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> i just checked it
#1683 [15:14] <NintendoGamerBoy> I did bor
#1684 [15:14] <Boreeas> NintendoGamerBoy: Didn't help?
#1685 [15:14] <Boreeas> Hmm
#1686 [15:14] <AureliusM> Calo4562: specs of both machines? How much RAM each has for example.
#1687 [15:14] <NintendoGamerBoy> I have IE
#1688 [15:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> guys
#1689 [15:14] <NintendoGamerBoy> I will try with GC
#1690 [15:14] <Boreeas> NintendoGamerBoy: Download FF
#1691 [15:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> IE downloads it as a zip
#1692 [15:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> so thats why he has a zip
#1693 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Well, that's screwed up
#1694 [15:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> just rename it
#1695 [15:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> to .jar
#1696 [15:15] * AureliusM shudders at the thought of what else IE gets up to
#1696 [15:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> it will work then
#1697 [15:15] <NintendoGamerBoy> THERE WE GO
#1698 [15:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> yay for ie
#1699 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> AureliusM - IE used to strip the .exe from minecraft.exe upon download
#1700 [15:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> <___>
#1701 [15:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol win
#1702 [15:15] <Calo4562> AureliusM: These are the specs of the newer one. OS: Microsoft Windows XP Professional 2002 Service Pack 3
#1703 [15:16] <AureliusM> Calo4562: How much RAM ?
#1704 [15:16] <Calo4562> RAm is 3.5 GB
#1705 [15:16] <Calo4562> Graphics Card: NVIDIA Quadro FX 1600M
#1706 [15:16] <NintendoGamerBoy> IT WORKED
#1707 [15:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> NintendoGamerBoy - now download chrome
#1708 [15:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> and use that instead
#1709 [15:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> forever
#1710 [15:17] <NintendoGamerBoy> I hav chrome
#1711 [15:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> use it then
#1712 [15:17] <NintendoGamerBoy> *hav
#1713 [15:17] <NintendoGamerBoy> t**have
#1714 [15:17] <NintendoGamerBoy> I dled the file succesfully
#1715 [15:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> i know, but i mean for future stuff
#1716 [15:17] <NintendoGamerBoy> And now minecraft server is opened
#1717 [15:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> dont use IE
#1718 [15:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> its shit
#1719 [15:17] <Boreeas> ;kick WhereIsMySpoon NO U! Use FF
#1720 [15:17] <Boreeas> <.<
#1721 [15:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> ff suxx
#1722 [15:17] <Boreeas> >.>
#1723 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Now try connecting to it
#1724 [15:17] <NintendoGamerBoy> [WARNING] server.properties does not exist
#1725 [15:17] <NintendoGamerBoy> Ok
#1726 [15:17] <AureliusM> Calo4562: That's plenty. But I remember the FX 1600M might have some problems
#1727 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - That's normal
#1728 [15:18] <NintendoGamerBoy> :D now I need help portforwarding
#1729 [15:18] <Calo4562> AureliusM: Any way to fix it?
#1730 [15:18] <NintendoGamerBoy> :P
#1731 [15:18] <AureliusM> Calo4562: ThatHave you updated the graphics drivers?
#1732 [15:18] <NintendoGamerBoy> Guys, can you help me portforwarddd????
#1733 [15:18] <Calo4562> AureliusM: Yes, they're updated
#1734 [15:19] <NintendoGamerBoy> @Greyvulpine can you help?
#1735 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Got Teamviewer?
#1736 [15:19] <NintendoGamerBoy> No, do I need it?
#1737 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarding would go a lot quicker on it
#1738 [15:19] <NintendoGamerBoy> Ok
#1739 [15:19] <NintendoGamerBoy> Link me to it?
#1740 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> ?? teamviewer
#1741 [15:20] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1742 [15:20] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1743 [15:20] <Calo4562> AureliusM: I updated them from the Comp Manufactuer site, should I try from the Graphics card site?
#1744 [15:20] <AureliusM> Calo4562: No, that's correct, from the laptop maker.
#1745 [15:21] <NintendoGamerBoy> Now Vulpine
#1746 [15:21] <NintendoGamerBoy> WIll this work with PFing for blockland too?
#1747 [15:21] <AureliusM> Calo4562: Minecraft freezes with 50% CPU. Several have reported this but I've never tracked down a cause, no error message. I'm guessing GPU overheats, but that's a wild guess.
#1748 [15:22] <NintendoGamerBoy> Also, vlupine, what do I do?
#1749 [15:22] <NintendoGamerBoy> I have dled it
#1750 [15:22] <AureliusM> Calo4562: Do you have a program on the laptop that displays temperatures of teh CPU and GPU?
#1751 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Run teamviewer, you'll get a 9 digit ID number, and a 4 digit password. Private message me with it.
#1752 [15:22] <NintendoGamerBoy> Why?
#1753 [15:22] <Calo4562> AureliusM: No, is there a program you can get like that for free?
#1754 [15:22] <NintendoGamerBoy> Why should I?
#1755 [15:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> so grey can help you
#1756 [15:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> unless you dont wnt him to set up port forwardig
#1757 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - So I can remote in and help you with it. I'll be able to see your screen with it
#1758 [15:23] <NintendoGamerBoy> He can't delete and mess up files, right?
#1759 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - I would not do that.
#1760 [15:23] <NintendoGamerBoy> ALright
#1761 [15:23] <NintendoGamerBoy> How to PM?
#1762 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> /msg GreyVulpine Stuff_goes_here
#1763 [15:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> ./query
#1764 [15:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> also
#1765 [15:24] <NintendoGamerBoy> ???
#1766 [15:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> :)
#1767 [15:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> but msg works fine too
#1768 [15:24] <AureliusM> Calo4562: There is System Information Viewer from http://rh-software.com/ but it might be rather advanced, it shows almost everything.
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#1771 [15:25] <AureliusM> Calo4562: I use ATITool but I cannot recommend it as you can accidently damage your GPU with it!
#1772 [15:26] <Calo4562> AureliusM: Ok, I'll check it out real quick, let's see if it overheating is the problem.
#1773 [15:26] <AureliusM> Calo4562: But, before looking at temperatures, look at what TaskManager reports for memory use by java process when it next freezes. There might be a problem when it reaches 1024M on XP systems
#1774 [15:27] <AureliusM> Calo4562: One thing to try is to use a small batch file to run minecraft with less memory, say about 800M.
#1775 [15:27] <Calo4562> AureliusM: How do you create a batch file?
#1776 [15:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> its just a file with .bat extension
#1777 [15:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> you can just make a text file then rename it to .bat
#1778 [15:28] <Calo4562> Ok.
#1779 [15:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> but make sure (if windows) that you have file extensions turned on
#1780 [15:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> otherwise you'll just have a .bat.txt
#1781 [15:29] <Calo4562> AureliusM: What should the code look like in the .bat file
#1782 [15:30] <AureliusM> Calo4562: the code will be: java -Xms800M -Xmx800M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1783 [15:30] <AureliusM> Calo4562: add this one line afterwards: pause
#1784 [15:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> why the net.minecraftbla stuff?
#1785 [15:31] <Calo4562> AureliusM: Ok I'll try that.
#1786 [15:32] <AureliusM> Calo4562: You will need to download the minecraft.jar from minecraft.net/download under the Show all platforms link
#1787 [15:33] <AureliusM> The net.minecraft stuff is the Java class path that java must use in the launcher
#1788 [15:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> whys it need that? isnt the classpath already in the jar?
#1789 [15:34] <Calo4562> AureliusM: Ok, I downloaded that.
#1790 [15:34] <AureliusM> Not in the jar from minecraft.net
#1791 [15:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> heh ok
#1792 [15:34] <AureliusM> Calo4562: Ok, create a new folder somewhere and move both the minecraft.jar and the run.bat files into it
#1793 [15:35] <Calo4562> AureliusM:Ok.
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#1795 [15:35] <AureliusM> Calo4562: Then double click teh run.bat, and login
#1796 [15:36] <Calo4562> AureliusM: I made the extension of the notepad file .bat, but it's not showing up as that.
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#1798 [15:37] <AureliusM> Calo4562: For file extensions set the to show here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/865219
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#1800 [15:38] <AureliusM> Calo4562: Also, open the run.bat.txt file in notepad and click "save as" but make sure the name is run.bat (no .txt at the end)
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#1802 [15:39] <blinky> I get a open GL error code , when I launsh game
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#1804 [15:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> blinky - paste the error you're getting in a pastebin.com paste then link it here
#1805 [15:41] <AureliusM> Calo4562: When you have saved run.bat , check it *really* is named run.bat by right mouse clicking over the file and clicking properties
#1806 [15:41] <blinky> what s a pastebin?
#1807 [15:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> pastebin.com is a website
#1808 [15:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> you paste stuff there so it doesnt clutter the channel
#1809 [15:42] <AureliusM> ??> blinky pastebin
#1810 [15:42] <VoxelHead> blinky: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1811 [15:44] <AureliusM> Calo4562: let us know if you have a problem with any of these steps
#1812 [15:44] <Calo4562> AureliusM: Ok, so now I just run the .bat file and see if that fixes it?
#1813 [15:44] <blinky> http://pastebin.de/22013
#1814 [15:44] <AureliusM> Calo4562: did you check the run.bat properties?
#1815 [15:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#1816 [15:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> that is in your paste
#1817 [15:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> have you tried that?
#1818 [15:45] <Calo4562> AureliusM: Yes, it's a .bat file
#1819 [15:45] <AureliusM> Calo4562: but yes, if it's named run.bat then double click it.
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#1821 [15:45] <AureliusM> Calo4562: watch for errors in the black command window
#1822 [15:45] <Calo4562> AureliusM: Ok I'll see how long I last.
#1823 [15:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> yea if you get a crash dont close the black window
#1824 [15:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> paste whatever error you get to pastebin then here
#1825 [15:46] <AureliusM> Calo4562: any crash or error, keep the window open and come here and use pastebin as WhereisMySpoon says
#1826 [15:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.a
#1827 [15:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> :(
#1828 [15:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> why would you name a class 'a'
#1829 [15:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> method even
#1830 [15:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> :<
#1831 [15:47] <tyteen4a03> WhereIsMySpoon: obfuscated code?
#1832 [15:47] <AureliusM> who what where ? obfuscation strikes again ?
#1833 [15:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah yea
#1834 [15:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> duh
#1835 [15:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> hehe
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#1837 [15:52] <AureliusM> blincki: were you blinky earlier? Your error log in the pastebin contains: Minecraft Beta 1.5_01
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#1839 [15:53] <whidgle> VUlpine
#1840 [15:53] <whidgle> The files wont work, can you help again?
#1841 [15:53] * AureliusM goes all nostalgic and fires up 1.5.2
#1841 [15:54] <NintendoGamerBoy> Vulpine'\
#1842 [15:54] <NintendoGamerBoy> @Greyvulpine!
#1843 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#1844 [15:56] <Calo4562> Well No freezing so far, I hope it keeps working! :)
#1845 [15:56] <blincki> yes I was disconnected
#1846 [15:57] <NintendoGamerBoy> Can you help me?
#1847 [15:57] <NintendoGamerBoy> The files wont work for bl, can you help again?
#1848 [15:57] <NintendoGamerBoy> Or at least try?
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#1851 [15:58] <NintendoGamerBoy> @Greyvulpine The files wont work for bl, can you help again?
#1852 [15:59] <xptical> Hi all. Sound stutters under Ubuntu x64 and vanilla MineCraft.
#1853 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Sorry, I don't really know anything about BL. From the forums, it says to run the installer again to get the option to install the dedicated server files.
#1854 [15:59] <NintendoGamerBoy> I did
#1855 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> Did you install the dedicated server?
#1856 [16:00] <NintendoGamerBoy> Ya
#1857 [16:00] <AureliusM> Calo4562: good to hear so far; the 800M can be changed to other numbers under 1024 - even 512 should work for most maps but can run out of memory for very complex maps.
#1858 [16:00] <xptical> I have already replaced the LWJGL files.
#1859 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> xptical: xptical Are you using theSun JRE or OpenJDK?
#1860 [16:01] <xptical> Sun's. Tried 1.6 and 1.7
#1861 [16:02] <xptical> Also tried OpenJDK 1.6 and 1.7 just for S&Gs.
#1862 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> Definitely 1.7 will give problems
#1863 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> Hrm. I use Sun6 and OpenJDK6 on Ubuntu x64 and it works perfectly fine for me
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#1865 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> which release are you running?
#1866 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Did you run the dedicated server?
#1867 [16:03] <xptical> Maybe it's a sound-card problem. I can play the OGGs fine in an external player
#1868 [16:03] <NintendoGamerBoy> I can't find the file, and I know EXACTLYwhere it goes
#1869 [16:03] <DopeGhoti> xptical: which sound engine are you running? ALSA? OSS? PA?
#1870 [16:04] <xptical> ALSA. Maybe I can try another?
#1871 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> xptical: I use PulseAudio and it works flawlessly.. try that?
#1872 [16:05] <NintendoGamerBoy> Please grey can you try?
#1873 [16:05] <NintendoGamerBoy> @GreyVulpine Please can you try
#1874 [16:06] <NintendoGamerBoy> NintendoGamerBoy
#1875 [16:06] <NintendoGamerBoy> GreyVulpine - Please!!!!!!
#1876 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> ??> NintendoGamerBoy patience
#1877 [16:06] <VoxelHead> NintendoGamerBoy: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#1878 [16:06] <VoxelHead> NintendoGamerBoy: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#1879 [16:07] <NintendoGamerBoy> ok
#1880 [16:07] <NintendoGamerBoy> Voxel
#1881 [16:07] <NintendoGamerBoy> Do you use, like automatic answers?
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#1883 [16:08] <VoxelHead> Sometimes.
#1884 [16:08] * Aoyagi waves
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#1885 [16:08] * DopeGhoti salutes
#1885 [16:08] <Aoyagi> "Is there a possibility to get a minecraft server with 3-5 slots?"
#1886 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> Aoyagi: Yes, in the server.properties file, you set how many people can be logged into the server at any one time.
#1887 [16:09] <Aoyagi> Eh, I don't think that's what my friend meant :D
#1888 [16:09] <Lilou> test
#1889 [16:09] <Aoyagi> yay
#1890 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> Lilou: B+
#1891 [16:09] <Lilou> ^^
#1892 [16:09] <NintendoGamerBoy> Some
#1893 [16:09] <NintendoGamerBoy> One
#1894 [16:09] <xptical> DopeGhoti Do I need to do any command-line stuff to change engines? I just picked from the "mixer" app on my task bar.
#1895 [16:09] <NintendoGamerBoy> Please
#1896 [16:10] <NintendoGamerBoy> Help
#1897 [16:10] <Aoyagi> NintendoGamerBoy: What?
#1898 [16:10] <NintendoGamerBoy> It is not a minecraft thing, I just need to talk to GreyVulpine
#1899 [16:10] <Lilou> well i wanted to ask if someone can "give" one 3 to 5 slot minecraft server if someone want to
#1900 [16:10] <Lilou> you got the question wrong
#1901 [16:10] <DopeGhoti> xptical: I'm not sure; I'd have to RTFM that.
#1902 [16:10] <NintendoGamerBoy> brb
#1903 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Again, I'm sorry, I don't really have any experience with setting up a blockland server.
#1904 [16:11] <Lilou> not setting up
#1905 [16:11] <Lilou> i mean
#1906 [16:11] <Lilou> the server in general
#1907 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - That's something you'll have to check the forums for
#1908 [16:11] <Lilou> if someone has one for me
#1909 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Lilou - Sure, if you're willing to pay somebody to host a minecraft server for you
#1910 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> There's hundreds of server hosts out there willing to do that
#1911 [16:12] <Lilou> if the price is right
#1912 [16:12] <Lilou> sure
#1913 [16:12] <NintendoGamerBoy> GreyVUlpine - Well can you help me with something to do with minecraft?
#1914 [16:12] <NintendoGamerBoy> Just hook up wit hthe porgram thingerr
#1915 [16:12] <Aoyagi> Lilou: See, that's what I asked you before.
#1916 [16:12] <Aoyagi> You never listen to meeee!
#1917 [16:12] <Lilou> huh ?
#1918 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> Lilou: https://allgamer.net/clients/aff.php?aff=061
#1919 [16:12] <NintendoGamerBoy> GreyVUlpine - Well can you help me with something to do with minecraft?
#1920 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Program thing?
#1921 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Could you be more speific?
#1922 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> er, specific, even.
#1923 [16:13] <NintendoGamerBoy> I need help creating a server that is cool
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#1925 [16:14] <Lilou> well buying is an option but i wanted just to check first if theres a so called give away or someone has one which he can give me...if not i can buy
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#1927 [16:14] <NintendoGamerBoy> Greyvulpine?
#1928 [16:14] <NintendoGamerBoy> You there?
#1929 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> That's not something I can help you with here.
#1930 [16:15] <NintendoGamerBoy> Please.
#1931 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> You've got a minecraft server running now. Just invite your friends on, and you can all create your own world together.
#1932 [16:16] <Lilou> well im aware of that i can do that with my PC
#1933 [16:16] <Lilou> but
#1934 [16:16] <Lilou> i run windows
#1935 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Lilou - Nobody's going to simply give you a server.
#1936 [16:16] <Lilou> asking doesnt cost
#1937 [16:17] <nekronuke_> GreyVulpine, whats he/she want?
#1938 [16:17] <nekronuke_> someone to host a server, and give him OP?
#1939 [16:17] <nekronuke_> /her?
#1940 [16:17] <Lilou> i will buy one if noone has one for me =) theres no problem with that
#1941 [16:17] <Lilou> but asking before buying
#1942 [16:17] <Lilou> so well
#1943 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> nekronuke_ - NintendoGamerBoy recently asked for help port forwarding for his server. That's been resolved.
#1944 [16:18] * mib_8v5n8u [mib_8v5n8u@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1945 [16:18] <Lilou> nekronuke_ minecraft
#1946 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> nekronuke_ - He's now asking to make his server's world 'cool'
#1947 [16:18] <Lilou> me ?
#1948 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Lilou here, wants a minecraft server.
#1949 [16:18] <Lilou> aye
#1950 [16:18] <mib_8v5n8u> hey what is an easy way to get experience(for enchanting)
#1951 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Preferably free, which isn't going to happen.
#1952 [16:19] <NintendoGamerBoy> Well Grey , can you help me set up a server that will run even when I am not there?
#1953 [16:19] <Lilou> if not its ok too again i will buy ..but asking doesnt hurt
#1954 [16:19] <mib_jma4uz> ok so when i try to play minecraft on my macbook pro it constantly freezes, forcing me to restart my computer. I have tried to force update and it hasn't helped much. i am currently running minecraft 1.0.0 and OS X Snow Leopard.
#1955 [16:19] <NintendoGamerBoy> greyvulpine
#1956 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Just keep the server window open, and you won't have to be there.
#1957 [16:19] <Boreeas> ??> NintendoGamerBoy dont/repeat
#1958 [16:19] <VoxelHead> NintendoGamerBoy: (dont/repeat) There is absolutely no need to repeat messages in IRC. Messages do not 'expire' and unless there is a lot of conversation, your message is not going anywhere.
#1959 [16:19] <VoxelHead> NintendoGamerBoy: (dont/repeat) Failure to follow this rule is very irritating, clouds the chat, and is almost certain you get you kicked for spamming.
#1960 [16:19] <Aoyagi> mib_jma4uz: You could get a PC
#1961 [16:20] <NintendoGamerBoy> GreyVulpinnneeee!!!
#1962 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> NintendoGamerBoy: Pay me $20 per month and I will set you up with a Minecraft server which will be up 23/7.
#1963 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> er
#1964 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> 24/7
#1965 [16:20] <AureliusM> mib_8v5n8u: find a dungeon spawner and build a exp grinder around it
#1966 [16:20] <mib_8v5n8u> what is an exp grinder?
#1967 [16:21] <mib_8v5n8u> what is a dungeon spawner
#1968 [16:21] <Boreeas> NintendoGamerBoy: I do the same for 5 $ less, but I don't promise 24/7 as it might crash every now and then :P
#1969 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_8v5n8u - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Monster_Spawner
#1970 [16:21] <Boreeas> DopeGhoti: How low can you go?
#1971 [16:21] <NintendoGamerBoy> GreyVulpine - Can you help me install a mod?
#1972 [16:21] <AureliusM> mib_8v5n8u: a trap which channels the mobs to one place, softens them with a fall or crushing, so that you can one shot kill them for the exp
#1973 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Sorry, I don't do mods.
#1974 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> NintendoGamerBoy: mods
#1975 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> ??> NintendoGamerBoy mods
#1976 [16:22] <VoxelHead> NintendoGamerBoy: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1977 [16:22] <VoxelHead> NintendoGamerBoy: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1978 [16:22] <NintendoGamerBoy> WHat is Bukkit?
#1979 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> ?find NintendoGamerBoy bukkit
#1980 [16:22] <VoxelHead> NintendoGamerBoy, http://is.gd/X7yRJf
#1981 [16:22] <Boreeas> NintendoGamerBoy: Seriously, you are annoying me <.<
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#1983 [16:23] <Boreeas> On an not completely unrelated note, wherre did WugBot go?
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#1985 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Wug went on vacation with family or something.
#1986 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> His computer's off
#1987 [16:24] <Boreeas> Oh, he isn't runinng it on a server? Interesting
#1988 [16:24] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1988 [16:24] <schnozzle> Does Minecraft run on a mac with the Safari browser?
#1989 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> I think he runs it out of his own IRC client.
#1990 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> schnozzle: Yes.
#1991 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - For classic, no. For premium, yes
#1992 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> http://www.minecraft.net/play
#1993 [16:25] <schnozzle> All I got so far was a blank screen :(
#1994 [16:25] <zenon> Im having a problem playing my minecraft. whenever i turn it on and enter a world, the screen goes grey and just sits there. I cant play and it has no error that i can fix. I just update my video card drivers and java, and still have no luck. Im running on windows on a lenovo laptop. Any help?
#1995 [16:25] <Boreeas> An AuBot still hates me, I think. Oh well then, no kick for me :P
#1996 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> schnozzle: what version of OS X are you running?
#1997 [16:25] <zenon> i dont know
#1998 [16:25] <Aoyagi> Oh well, thanks for the help. Bai bai
#1999 [16:26] <schnozzle> OSX 10.6.8
#2000 [16:26] <schnozzle> OSX 10.6.8
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#2002 [16:26] <mib_8v5n8u> will killing a whole bunch of animals get me good exp?
#2003 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> schnozzle: To be perfectly honest, I've not played in-browser on my Mac at work; try the stand-alone client, which I know to work
#2004 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> ??> schnozzle mac/client
#2005 [16:26] <VoxelHead> schnozzle: (mac/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip
#2006 [16:27] <zenon> how would i see my OS X version?
#2007 [16:27] <AureliusM> zenon: with no error mesaage I can only guess: graphics card drivers do not fully support Open GL 1.5; overheating (unlikely)
#2008 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> zenon: Apple menu -> About this Mac
#2009 [16:27] <zenon> I played on it yesterday and it just started happening
#2010 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> zenon isn't running a mac
#2011 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> zenon just confused your message to schnozzle
#2012 [16:28] <zenon> lenovo with windows
#2013 [16:28] <NintendoGamerBoy> How do you use Bukkit?
#2014 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> NintendoGamerBoy: RTFM
#2015 [16:28] <AureliusM> zenon: run dxdiag and get the driver details
#2016 [16:28] <NintendoGamerBoy> ???
#2017 [16:28] <AureliusM> ??> zenon win/dxdiag
#2018 [16:28] <VoxelHead> zenon: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2019 [16:28] <VoxelHead> zenon: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2020 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - You can find more information about bukkit from http://www.bukkit.org
#2021 [16:29] <NintendoGamerBoy> DopeGhoti ????
#2022 [16:29] <schnozzle> THX DopeGhoti. I'll try the download
#2023 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Specifically, it's a modded minecraft server with additional features. None of which, we support here.
#2024 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - You'll need to ask at the bukkit forums, if you want to learn more about bukkit
#2025 [16:29] <AureliusM> zenon: But also, did you do a force update in minecraft? Uninstall all Java and then install Java 6?
#2026 [16:30] <NintendoGamerBoy> GreyVulpine - Can you link me to a moding help in IRC?
#2027 [16:30] <NintendoGamerBoy> *modding
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#2029 [16:30] <zenon> i didnt do a force update. I just reinstalled java
#2030 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Try the minecraft forums at minecraftforums.net
#2031 [16:30] <AureliusM> NintendoGamerBoy: #risucraft is for modding
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#2033 [16:30] <NintendoGamerBoy> Well grey, I followed their instructions, but it didn't work
#2034 [16:31] <zenon> http://pastebin.com/
#2035 [16:31] <AureliusM> zenon: Ok, launch Minecraft click Options click Force Update and see how that works
#2036 [16:31] <NintendoGamerBoy> Can you use the TeamViewer and do it for me?
#2037 [16:31] <zenon> http://pastebin.com/NM9EPcSR heres the link
#2038 [16:31] <NintendoGamerBoy> ?
#2039 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Again, sorry, I do not do modding help.
#2040 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - That's something you'll need to take up with the creator of the mod. Post in the forum thread where you got the mod from
#2041 [16:32] <NintendoGamerBoy> Does anyone in here do modding help?
#2042 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> This channel isn't for modding help
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#2044 [16:32] <AureliusM> zenon: Thanks for the dxdiag, it has: Intel(R) HD Graphics Family
#2045 [16:32] <NintendoGamerBoy> Ok
#2046 [16:33] <NintendoGamerBoy> Well, alrighty then
#2047 [16:33] <AureliusM> zenon: The dxdiag is not complete, did you click Save all Information?
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#2049 [16:34] <ombliga> Hi there, i accidently bought a gift code and the game, is there anyway to refund the gift code????
#2050 [16:34] <blincki> http://pastebin.com/BJpf38Tu
#2051 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Mojang does not do refunds, unfortunately. You can either redeem it yourself, or give it to a friend.
#2052 [16:35] <ombliga> thats for minecraft too?
#2053 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> ombliga - I'm sorry?
#2054 [16:36] <ombliga> thanks
#2055 [16:39] <blincki> cant launch game get open GL error
#2056 [16:42] <AureliusM> blincki: you posted http://pastebin.de/22013 which shows minecraft 1.5_01 and error was org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated
#2057 [16:42] <AureliusM> blincki: You will need to update your graphics card drivers
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#2059 [16:43] <blincki> i cant update
#2060 [16:44] <AureliusM> blincki: Sorry, I missed your second pastebin, and that has Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family , driver dated 2008
#2061 [16:44] <blincki> because I got last one
#2062 [16:44] <AureliusM> blincki: I see
#2063 [16:44] <ombliga> does anyone know somewhere we can sell the extra code to get the money back by any chance?
#2064 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> It's a gift code; meant to be given
#2065 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> anyone selling gift codes brings to mine this:
#2066 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> ?? fraud
#2067 [16:44] <VoxelHead> fraud: DO NOT buy Minecraft from any third parties! http://mojang.com/2011/04/26/achtung-uwaga-attention/
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#2069 [16:45] <DopeGhoti> (brings to mind, even)
#2070 [16:45] <AureliusM> blincki: maybe intel has updated drivers, I'm checking now
#2071 [16:45] <ombliga> well thank you for telling me lol
#2072 [16:46] <blincki> i looked but i found nothing
#2073 [16:48] <AureliusM> blincki: There are what look like different 2008 drivers here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&keyword=%22Mobile+Intel(R)+945+Express%22
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#2075 [16:48] <Me> Sorry, I disconnected :P
#2076 [16:48] <Me> Wait, LOL
#2077 [16:48] <Me> I am still in here
#2078 [16:49] <Guest2848> As Nintendo :P
#2079 [16:49] <Guest2848> Hey!
#2080 [16:51] <AureliusM> blincki: This says the express chipset supports OpenGL 1.4: http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/intel945gm/sb/CS-021517.htm
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#2082 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> The 945 can run minecraft, albeit with much lag. The problem isn't the video drivers, but with how those intel integrated video chipsets share system RAM, and that system only has a gig of RAM to share between the operating system, all running programs, minecraft, and the video card
#2083 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> batch file running minecraft with 128/256 megs of RAM is really your only workaround.
#2084 [16:54] <blincki> I m turning around between an hour on this site and still found nothing
#2085 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> blincki - Follow these instructions: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
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#2089 [16:55] <AureliusM> Thanks GreyVulpine I was having no luck finding more info on this chipset
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#2091 [16:56] <ThisGuy> GreyVulpine - Please help, I need to put a .zip into a .jar! Can you tell me how?
#2092 [16:57] <ThisGuy> Grey>>>>
#2093 [16:57] <b0xxy> google.com
#2094 [16:57] <mib_0irnmq> I bought minecraft and the game wont connect to server on my laptop
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#2096 [16:57] <AureliusM> ( I missed the 1024 MB memory for blincki's sytem, but I know one can run Minecraft in XP with only 1 GB as long as you use an optimal bat file )
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#2098 [16:57] <findow> i need help i bought the game but it still says im not premium
#2099 [16:57] <ThisGuy> b0xxy - I tried google
#2100 [16:58] <ThisGuy> findow - it takes up to an hour to register you
#2101 [16:58] <findow> its been an hour
#2102 [16:59] <ThisGuy> findow - EXACTLY (don;t include seconds) how long has it been?
#2103 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> findow - Then call your credit card or bank, make sure there's a record of payment going to Mojang AB for minecraft. If there hasn't, the transacftion was never completed
#2104 [16:59] <ThisGuy> GreyVulpine - Please help, I need to put a .zip into a .jar! Can you tell me how?
#2105 [16:59] <findow> already did
#2106 [16:59] <blincki> i m trying
#2107 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> ThisGuy - Open up the .jar in a compression program of your choice. If you have winrar or winzip, open it up with that
#2108 [17:00] <AureliusM> mib_0irnmq: do you mean you are trying to login for the first time ?
#2109 [17:00] <NintendoGamerBoy> I am nintendo now lol
#2110 [17:00] <NintendoGamerBoy> brb
#2111 [17:00] <\a> AureliusM: you can run minecraft on much less than 1GB
#2112 [17:00] <AureliusM> mib_0irnmq: Do you get "Cannot connect to minecraft.net" when you click Login ?
#2113 [17:00] <\a> I cant show you the picture but I have one
#2114 [17:01] <findow> i bought the game but it still says im not premium
#2115 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> findow - Did you call your financial institution?
#2116 [17:01] <findow> yes
#2117 [17:01] <AureliusM> \a: I know, I run it with 256M heap, plus the 256M java overhead.
#2118 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> findow - And did they say the payment went through?
#2119 [17:01] <findow> yes
#2120 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> findow - Then send an email to help@mojang.com
#2121 [17:01] <\a> AureliusM: I have gotten it working on a machine with 386MB total
#2122 [17:02] <\a> I'd show you the picture but the box is down
#2123 [17:02] * GreyVulpine stabs Wug
#2123 [17:02] * Wug stabbed
#2123 [17:03] <NintendoGamerBoy> Greyvulpine
#2124 [17:03] * Wug bleeds on the floor
#2124 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Yes NintendoGamerBoy?
#2125 [17:03] <NintendoGamerBoy> Can you use the Team Viewer to help me out?
#2126 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Again, I do not assist with mods.
#2127 [17:03] <Wug> GreyVulpine: I promise he's not me
#2128 [17:03] <NintendoGamerBoy> THis isn't about a mod
#2129 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> NintendoGamerBoy - Then, what exactly do you require help on?
#2130 [17:04] <NintendoGamerBoy> Puttin a .zip into a .jar
#2131 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> A .zip from where? Into what .jar?
#2132 [17:04] * AureliusM is now trying to run minecraft on less than 384MB
#2132 [17:04] <NintendoGamerBoy> From the forums, into minecraft_server
#2133 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Like I said, I don't assist with modding
#2134 [17:05] <NintendoGamerBoy> THIS ISN'T ABOUT MODDING
#2135 [17:05] <blincki> it works
#2136 [17:05] <NintendoGamerBoy> It's about trying to get a file into a /jar
#2137 [17:05] <NintendoGamerBoy> *.jar
#2138 [17:05] <blincki> thank you guys
#2139 [17:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> why do you need to do that if you arent modding
#2140 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> blincki - Glad to hear it.
#2141 [17:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> or is it for smth that isnt mc
#2142 [17:05] <NintendoGamerBoy> I am modding but you need NO modding skills to help with this
#2143 [17:07] <NintendoGamerBoy> GreyVulpine - Can you just help so that we can get this overwith?
#2144 [17:07] <NintendoGamerBoy> Please?
#2145 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> No.
#2146 [17:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> NintendoGamerBoy - i pmd you
#2147 [17:07] <NintendoGamerBoy> k
#2148 [17:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> take it out of this channel pls
#2149 [17:08] <DopeGhoti> NintendoGamerBoy: if you need no modding skills, why are you asking for help. Go away.
#2150 [17:09] <NintendoGamerBoy> GreyVulpine what do I do after installing WinZip?
#2151 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Read the instructions from the mod.
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#2153 [17:10] <NintendoGamerBoy> Ok
#2154 [17:10] <NintendoGamerBoy> Ok
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#2156 [17:13] <NintendoGamerBoy> WhereIsMySpoon I PMed you
#2157 [17:14] <NintendoGamerBoy> WhereIsMySpoon - SO I delete the minecraft server meta inf?
#2158 [17:15] * AureliusM managed just now to load a world in 1.0.0 with only 276 MB physical, but needed 580 MB virtual : http://i.imgur.com/wpiD0.png
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#2159 [17:18] <NintendoGamerBoy> I can't host a server, it says Can't Reach server
#2160 [17:20] <NintendoGamerBoy> Anyone?
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#2164 [17:23] <NintendoGamerBoy> ANYONE?
#2165 [17:23] <joey1618> my minecraft is not working after sign in, it goes to updating minecraft, then goes to white screen and crashes.. What do i do?
#2166 [17:24] <NintendoGamerBoy> joey1618 - Did you try reinstalling?
#2167 [17:24] <joey1618> yes and deleted the .minecraft folder and everything and it doesnt even work on minecraft.net
#2168 [17:24] <mr_sticky> new user on windows . I updated JAVA and dowloaded the Minecraft stand alone. I get an error message: application fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#2169 [17:25] <NintendoGamerBoy> Hmmm, idk joey
#2170 [17:25] <joey1618> mr_sticky that happened to me 2
#2171 [17:26] <TGF> I am running minecraft (server) as a service. Any way I can throw commands at it (I want to spawn some items)
#2172 [17:27] <mr_sticky> more on the error message:EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x49c1c528, pid=4208, tid=2680... Any ideas??
#2173 [17:28] <AureliusM> mr_sticky: can you get the whole error log into a pastebin and post the link to it here ?
#2174 [17:28] <AureliusM> ??> mr_sticky pastebin
#2175 [17:28] <VoxelHead> mr_sticky: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2176 [17:29] <mr_sticky> I'll try. Thx
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#2178 [17:30] <AureliusM> joey1618: Can you do the same and paste the whole error log into a pastebin ?
#2179 [17:31] <AureliusM> joey1618: and mr_sticky: there are several causes for this, but most likely is the graphics drivers need updating
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#2181 [17:34] <mr_sticky> VoxelHead : Can you try looking at this please? http://pastebin.com/WQsyigb2
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#2183 [17:35] <AureliusM> mr_sticky: looked inside, it has: glTexCoordPointer which indicates a graphics driver that has incomplete support for OpenGL
#2184 [17:36] <AureliusM> mr_sticky: try a dxdiag next, follow VoxelHead's instructions that follow:
#2185 [17:36] <AureliusM> ??> mr_sticky win/dxdiag
#2186 [17:36] <VoxelHead> mr_sticky: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2187 [17:36] <VoxelHead> mr_sticky: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2189 [17:38] <AureliusM> mr_sticky: your system only has 1000 megabytes which is a bit low for Minecraft, but usable with the right batch file; but we'll do this after the drivers are updated
#2190 [17:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> mr_sticky - voxelhead is a bot
#2191 [17:40] <AureliusM> ?? bot
#2192 [17:40] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#2193 [17:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> dont ask it questions
#2194 [17:40] * AureliusM thinks bots are people too
#2194 [17:40] * B0kz knows they are better
#2194 [17:41] * AureliusM , for one, welcomes the new bot overlords
#2194 [17:43] <mr_sticky> Voxel head, here goes: http://pastebin.com/fZyTcTEZ
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#2197 [17:45] <Solamin> Anyone available to help me out?
#2198 [17:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> 5/26/2005 driver date?
#2199 [17:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> O.o
#2200 [17:45] <tyteen4a03> WhereIsMySpoon: common
#2201 [17:46] <SM00TH> i bought minecraft a week ago, and im still not a premuim user... WHY? i got the verification email, and the money was taken from my account... but no minecraft
#2202 [17:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> whats your mc username
#2203 [17:46] <SM00TH> imSM00THiBuild
#2204 [17:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> `paid SM00THiBuild
#2205 [17:47] <SinZBot> SM00THiBuild hasn't paid for Minecraft!, That bastard!
#2206 [17:47] <tyteen4a03> SM00TH: Please email help@mojang.com or payment@mojang.com
#2207 [17:47] <SM00TH> imSM00THiBuild... not smoothibuild
#2208 [17:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh sorry
#2209 [17:47] <mr_sticky> Can anyone help with this: http://pastebin.com/fZyTcTEZ
#2210 [17:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> `paid imSM00THiBuild
#2211 [17:47] <SinZBot> imSM00THiBuild hasn't paid for Minecraft!, That bastard!
#2212 [17:47] <Solamin> I seem to be having issues with Minecraft locking up periodically on my new rig.
#2213 [17:47] <Solamin> Anyone know anything about that?
#2214 [17:47] * B0kz loooove Bots
#2214 [17:47] <tyteen4a03> mr_sticky: WhereIsMySpoon is handling your case, please be patient
#2215 [17:48] <mr_sticky> Sorry
#2216 [17:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> am i?
#2217 [17:48] <B0kz> Why do you think that i meen you?
#2218 [17:48] <Solamin> Anyone know anything about that?
#2219 [17:49] <AureliusM> mr_sticky: sorry I was away for a few minutes
#2220 [17:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> right well
#2221 [17:50] <AureliusM> mr_sticky: Ok, I 've looked at the dxdiag, and it has: LENOVO 9218D1F and SiS Mirage graphics, this looks familiar
#2222 [17:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> SM00TH - do what tyteen4a03 said
#2223 [17:51] <SM00TH> i emailed them, thank you
#2224 [17:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> it may take a while
#2225 [17:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> as in more than a week
#2226 [17:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> theyre usually quite busy
#2227 [17:51] <Solamin> Spoon, I don't suppose you could find a bit of time to help me? Or anyone for that matter? ;)
#2228 [17:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> er
#2229 [17:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> im busy trying to understand bitwise assignments in pics
#2230 [17:52] <Solamin> Alright, I'll just wait then.
#2231 [17:52] <Solamin> Hopefully someone will give me notice when they can help me out.
#2232 [17:53] <B0kz> Solamin, I really wish that can help you, but there are 2 little Problems, no 3! I'm to stupid, i english is too bad and i try to solve my own problem at the moment. ;D
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#2234 [17:54] <Solamin> That's fine. I've been here about four times in the past, I'm used to waiting a while for them to find time.
#2235 [17:54] <Solamin> Normally they're busy.
#2236 [17:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> Solamin whats your problem
#2237 [17:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> i can try to help you intermittently
#2238 [17:55] <Solamin> Alrighty.
#2239 [17:55] <Solamin> Well, I reformatted my computer a few days ago to fix a bunch of crap.
#2240 [17:55] <Solamin> I re-downloaded minecraft
#2241 [17:56] <Solamin> and got the "Out of memory" crash error
#2242 [17:56] <Solamin> So naturally I allocated more memory to Java for Minecraft to run.
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#2244 [17:56] <Solamin> Now it's periodically locking up on me. Every 2-3 minutes It'll freeze for 5-20 seconds
#2245 [17:56] <Solamin> and just go back to normal.
#2246 [17:56] <Solamin> It's driving me insane.
#2247 [17:56] <AureliusM> mr_sticky: I think I have found lenovo's driver website for you PC, could you check? It is http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/default.page?
#2248 [17:56] <greggry> how do you put a message of the day on a server
#2249 [17:56] <tyteen4a03> Solamin: how much RAM do you have?
#2250 [17:56] <AureliusM> mr_sticky: Wait, I'll get a better URL
#2251 [17:57] <tyteen4a03> greggry: They should be inside server.properties
#2252 [17:57] <greggry> ok, thanks
#2253 [17:57] <Solamin> #Tyteen3a03 - http://screensnapr.com/v/svmzV1.png
#2254 [17:57] <Solamin> Quite a bit.
#2255 [17:57] <AureliusM> mr_sticky: Go to that lenovo website and search for 9218D1F and you should get to a ThinkCentre E50 (9218-D1F)
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#2257 [17:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> definitely enough
#2258 [17:58] <Solamin> I can run battlefield 3 at full graphics without issue...
#2259 [17:58] <Solamin> Aside from heating, of course.
#2260 [17:58] <Solamin> :)
#2261 [17:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> erm
#2262 [17:58] <Wug> Solamin: opengl
#2263 [17:59] <Wug> bf3 uses directx
#2264 [17:59] * |Kiichan| shakes head at everyone saying "But I run <DirectX Big Budget Game> just fine!"
#2264 [17:59] <Solamin> I understand the difference between the two, I'm not relating BF3 to it.
#2265 [17:59] <Solamin> The only relation I'm making, is that I'm not used to issues with games.
#2266 [18:00] <Solamin> I'd just like some info on why Minecraft rapes my computer. : \
#2267 [18:00] <|Kiichan|> you dont get issues with big budget games because they spend months just bughunting
#2268 [18:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> Solamin - what java do you have? 64 or 32
#2269 [18:01] <Solamin> 64-bit was reccomended for Far-render distance.
#2270 [18:01] <Solamin> So I use 64-bit.
#2271 [18:01] <mr_sticky> AureliusM: I'm there... which driver do you suggest I look for?
#2272 [18:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok good
#2273 [18:01] <Wug> Solamin: because you probably have integrated intel graphics, with drivers that are poorly optimized for opengl
#2274 [18:01] <Solamin> I have 2 GPU's.
#2275 [18:01] <Wug> or just old drivers in general
#2276 [18:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??> Solamin win/dxdiag
#2277 [18:01] <VoxelHead> Solamin: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2278 [18:01] <VoxelHead> Solamin: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2279 [18:01] <Solamin> On it already.
#2280 [18:02] <Wug> opengl didnt get a lot of attention until a few years ago
#2281 [18:02] <|Kiichan|> oh bloddy... im beginnign to hate the dynamic gpu thing
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#2283 [18:02] <AureliusM> mr_sticky: lenovo's website is not giving me any results for video drivers. I do not think they have any updates.
#2284 [18:02] <Solamin> http://pastebin.com/47ECymK0
#2285 [18:02] <Solamin> There you go.
#2286 [18:02] <|Kiichan|> AureliusM: just go for the gpu.
#2287 [18:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> 9 months old drivers
#2288 [18:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> im sure there are some newer ones
#2289 [18:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> update then try again
#2290 [18:03] <|Kiichan|> [15:54] <+GreyVulpine> There's instructions for the nvidia optimus here: http://josoft.net/post/2011/01/18/Minecraft-on-your-Nvidia-Optimus-laptop.aspx
#2291 [18:03] <AureliusM> mr_sticky: also, I looked at http://www.kludx.com/opengl_versions.php and they list some SiS graphics "cards" under OpenGL 1.2, so I suspect your graphics chipset just cannot support minecraft. But wait if others can offer any advice
#2292 [18:04] <|Kiichan|> Solamin: that links for you
#2293 [18:04] <Solamin> Alrighty, thanks Kii.
#2294 [18:04] <Solamin> I'll give it a look.
#2295 [18:04] <bobthegrate> Is this the right place to look for a moderators help?
#2296 [18:04] <Solamin> ^ Yes.
#2297 [18:04] <Solamin> Tech help, mostly. :D
#2298 [18:05] <|Kiichan|> bobthegrate: we're mostly tech support. we dont operate servers (that we support in here atleast)
#2299 [18:05] <AureliusM> mr_sticky: The GPU is SiS 661FX but I cannot find an exact match yet
#2300 [18:05] <mr_sticky> I guess this old PC is just getting closer and closer to the dump site.
#2301 [18:05] <|Kiichan|> mr_sticky: i dont think SiS card do opengl all that well either
#2302 [18:06] <bobthegrate> |Kiichan|: ok I will go look some place else then
#2303 [18:06] * |Kiichan| likes helping with the random person with redstone questions :P
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#2304 [18:06] <AureliusM> mr_sticky: Now I am looking through http://w3.sis.com/download/
#2305 [18:07] <Solamin> @kii - http://screensnapr.com/v/lMOQ8F.png
#2306 [18:07] <Solamin> Set, though it was already running off of that GPU.
#2307 [18:09] <AureliusM> mr_sticky: Ok, I think I have found the driver page for SIS661FX, you have to start at http://w3.sis.com/download/download_step1.php and select IGP Graphics Drivers : SiS66x/SiS76x & SiS67x : Windows XP 64-Bit Edition
#2308 [18:10] <Solamin> I'm going to give Minecraft a 5-minute test run
#2309 [18:10] <Solamin> I'll be back with the results.
#2310 [18:10] * Solamin is now away - Reason : Brb
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#2311 [18:11] <RazorboyX> Hi
#2312 [18:12] <AureliusM> mr_sticky: I am not sure, there are 2 driver versions: SiS UniVGA3 graphics driver uvga3_384.zip dated 2008-04-09 and SiS UniVGA3 Graphics Driver for Windows 64-bit Version. - Is your XP system 32 bit ?
#2313 [18:12] <RazorboyX> My MineCraft Says ''Failed To Lunch Fatal Error Occored (4):Invalid Arguement
#2314 [18:13] <Wug> RazorboyX: check the control panel for a program called relevant knowledge
#2315 [18:13] <Wug> if you find it, uninstall it
#2316 [18:13] <RazorboyX> What do i do
#2317 [18:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> O.o
#2318 [18:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> whats relevant knowledge
#2319 [18:13] <RazorboyX> I have
#2320 [18:13] <RazorboyX> 2
#2321 [18:13] <AureliusM> mr_sticky: Are you checking that driver page?
#2322 [18:13] <Wug> RazorboyX: use whole sentences
#2323 [18:13] * Solamin is no longer away : Gone for 3 minutes 35 seconds
#2323 [18:13] <Solamin> Froze.
#2324 [18:14] <RazorboyX> I am using a macbook pro
#2325 [18:14] <Wug> RazorboyX: oh, im not sure then
#2326 [18:14] <RazorboyX> ...
#2327 [18:14] <Solamin> Took roughly 3 minutes to freeze.
#2328 [18:14] <Solamin> No idea why.
#2329 [18:14] <Wug> Solamin: you did say you had 64 bit java, correct
#2330 [18:14] <Solamin> 'course.
#2331 [18:15] <Wug> you're using the download client
#2332 [18:15] <Solamin> Yep.
#2333 [18:15] <RazorboyX> It worked perfectly 2 mins ago
#2334 [18:15] <mr_sticky> AureliusM: THX I'll do just, thankx for your help
#2335 [18:15] <Wug> you dont have any 32 bit versions of java installed
#2336 [18:15] <RazorboyX> And It Works On My iMac
#2337 [18:15] <Wug> RazorboyX: try force updating
#2338 [18:15] <Solamin> Well I updated Java from 32-bit
#2339 [18:15] <Solamin> but Minecraft is running off of 64-bit.
#2340 [18:15] <Solamin> : \
#2341 [18:15] <RazorboyX> Tried Thats
#2342 [18:15] <Solamin> Hold on, stove is overboiling
#2343 [18:15] <Solamin> give me a moment
#2344 [18:15] <RazorboyX> Its Just Says The Same
#2345 [18:16] <Wug> RazorboyX: redownload the launcher
#2346 [18:16] <RazorboyX> I have
#2347 [18:16] <RazorboyX> I tried to get the free one
#2348 [18:16] <RazorboyX> MineCraft SP
#2349 [18:16] <RazorboyX> Still didn't work!
#2350 [18:16] <RazorboyX> -_-
#2351 [18:17] <Wug> whats your minecraft account name
#2352 [18:17] <RazorboyX> Mine
#2353 [18:17] <RazorboyX> ?
#2354 [18:17] <Wug> yes
#2355 [18:17] <RazorboyX> RazorboyX
#2356 [18:17] <AureliusM> mr_sticky: I'm no expert but I also suspect these SiS drivers will not help the SiS661FX support Open GL 1.5, but try it anyway. There is a chance they support 1.2 which you might allow an old Minecraft beta to run
#2357 [18:17] <Solamin> Alright, I'm back.
#2358 [18:17] <RazorboyX> Same One I Am Using
#2359 [18:17] <Solamin> Any ideas, wug?
#2360 [18:18] <Wug> Solamin: you got java 6u30 right
#2361 [18:18] <mr_sticky> Ciao amigos
#2362 [18:18] <Solamin> 6u30....?
#2363 [18:18] <Solamin> Is that the version
#2364 [18:18] <Solamin> ?
#2365 [18:18] <Wug> the most recent version of 6
#2366 [18:18] <Solamin> How do I check?
#2367 [18:18] <Wug> ... you just installed it right
#2368 [18:18] <Wug> where did you get it from
#2369 [18:18] <Solamin> Java.sun...
#2370 [18:18] <Solamin> about 3-4 days ago..
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#2372 [18:19] <RazorboyX> Well Thank For Trying To Help
#2373 [18:19] <Wug> java.sun? you mean java.com?
#2374 [18:19] <Solamin> Yeah.
#2375 [18:19] <Solamin> But it shows up as sun.java.com or something.
#2376 [18:19] <Solamin> That or I'm going insane.
#2377 [18:19] <Wug> the online installer picks 32 bit
#2378 [18:20] <Solamin> Yes, and I manually chose a download for 64-bit.
#2379 [18:20] <Wug> open the control panel and tell me all of the versions of java it says are installed
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#2381 [18:21] <Solamin> It doesn't tell me in control panel, one sec.
#2382 [18:21] <B0kz> O.o
#2383 [18:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> wrong
#2384 [18:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> it does
#2385 [18:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> now try again
#2386 [18:22] <Solamin> @WhereIsMySpoon - http://screensnapr.com/v/pOqxl2.png
#2387 [18:22] <Solamin> Wrong
#2388 [18:22] <Solamin> it doesn't.
#2389 [18:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> that isnt the right place
#2390 [18:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> go to add or remove programs
#2391 [18:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> then try again :p
#2392 [18:23] <Solamin> That's "Control panel". : \
#2393 [18:23] <Solamin> One sec.
#2394 [18:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> i think wug assumed you knew to go to there to look at progrmas u have installed
#2395 [18:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> also, league of legends is cool ;D
#2396 [18:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> icechat not so cool, but hey
#2397 [18:24] <Solamin> @Whoever is helpin' - http://screensnapr.com/v/cSvHRr.png
#2398 [18:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> uninstall the not 64bit one
#2399 [18:25] <Solamin> On it.
#2400 [18:25] <Solamin> Also, I didn't know where to go because you guys tend to be incredibly specific.
#2401 [18:25] <Solamin> Lol.
#2402 [18:26] <Solamin> @WhereIsMySpoon - http://screensnapr.com/v/YttBoY.png
#2403 [18:26] <Solamin> Removed.
#2404 [18:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> not everyone thinks that people dont have some degree of knowledge about some things
#2405 [18:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok now try mc
#2406 [18:26] <Solamin> Mmk.
#2407 [18:26] <B0kz> good luck ;)
#2408 [18:26] <|Kiichan|> just over half the people coming through here had the inteligence of a pea.
#2409 [18:27] <DreadLindwyrm> That's harsh on peas
#2410 [18:27] <|Kiichan|> indead.
#2411 [18:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> |Kiichan| - only to do with computers
#2412 [18:27] <Solamin> Well, the entire minecraft populus consists of kids who have the mental capacity of a potato.
#2413 [18:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> they might be amazing artists
#2414 [18:27] <Solamin> So I understand, lol.
#2415 [18:28] <Wug> Solamin: we get people who dont know what the windows key is
#2416 [18:28] <Solamin> pfffft.
#2417 [18:29] <Wug> so forgive me for hoping you had a grasp on installing and uninstalling programs
#2418 [18:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#2419 [18:29] <tyteen4a03> Solamin: almost all of them, yes
#2420 [18:29] * Wug suddenly suspects something
#2420 [18:29] <Wug> but keeps it to himself
#2421 [18:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?
#2422 [18:30] <|Kiichan|> case in point...
#2423 [18:30] <|Kiichan|> ?? win/key/image
#2424 [18:30] <VoxelHead> win/key/image: WARNING: May not appear exactly as shown. http://daily-grind.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Windows-Key-722215.jpg
#2425 [18:31] <Solamin> Froze.
#2426 [18:31] <Solamin> Still not fixed.
#2427 [18:31] <Solamin> http://screensnapr.com/v/4fJQc8.png
#2428 [18:31] <Solamin> Abnormally high memory usage..
#2429 [18:31] <Solamin> O.o
#2430 [18:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> no it isnt
#2431 [18:32] <Solamin> I've had it at 1,200,000 bytes..
#2432 [18:32] <Solamin> - http://screensnapr.com/v/c4GhZm.png
#2433 [18:32] <Solamin> Heat.
#2434 [18:32] <Solamin> I'm stumped.
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#2436 [18:33] <Wug> Solamin: it might be overheating
#2437 [18:33] <|Kiichan|> Solamin: have minecraft just opnedn at at 600mb already
#2438 [18:33] <Wug> 90C is really hot
#2439 [18:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> yea,m 75 isnt that bad
#2440 [18:33] <|Kiichan|> yeouch!
#2441 [18:33] <Solamin> it's been up to 90c.
#2442 [18:33] <|Kiichan|> my desktop is 40 right now... laptop gets to 60s
#2443 [18:33] <Solamin> Well I'm on a laptop.
#2444 [18:34] <|Kiichan|> well.. laptop hits 70s when i block the fan.
#2445 [18:34] <|Kiichan|> then the wifi dies.,.
#2446 [18:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol
#2447 [18:34] <Wug> Solamin: no errors or anything when it stops?
#2448 [18:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> win
#2449 [18:34] <Solamin> None at all.
#2450 [18:34] <Solamin> I'd be posting them. :(
#2451 [18:34] <Wug> also it just freezes, doesnt crash?
#2452 [18:34] <Solamin> Correct.
#2453 [18:34] <Solamin> It locks up for about...
#2454 [18:35] <Solamin> Anywhere from 5-20 seconds
#2455 [18:35] <Solamin> then just resumes.
#2456 [18:35] <Wug> actually
#2457 [18:35] <Wug> thats definitely overheating
#2458 [18:35] <Wug> the processor clocks down for a while
#2459 [18:35] <Wug> until it cools off a bit
#2460 [18:35] <Solamin> I had thought so aswell.
#2461 [18:35] <Solamin> I checked that, though.
#2462 [18:35] <Solamin> It does it regardless of temperature.
#2463 [18:35] <Wug> how cool were you keeping it
#2464 [18:35] <Wug> it might be the gpu doing it
#2465 [18:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> pour cold water over it
#2466 [18:36] <Wug> umm no
#2467 [18:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#2468 [18:36] <Wug> but if you have a cooling pad that might help
#2469 [18:36] <Wug> or a fan or something
#2470 [18:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> put it in the arctic
#2471 [18:36] <Solamin> I have a cooling pad.
#2472 [18:36] <Solamin> I actually bought one the other week.
#2473 [18:36] <Solamin> Hold on a sec.
#2474 [18:36] <Solamin> Alright, uhh...
#2475 [18:37] <Solamin> I was monitoring the temp, and noticed that regardless of the temperature, it locks up. after prolonged playing (2-3 hours), it gets up to about 90C.
#2476 [18:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> you have bad cooling then
#2477 [18:38] <Solamin> it sounds rediculous, but doesn't harm the computer. I called LG to ask about it, and they said it was normal.
#2478 [18:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> er
#2479 [18:38] <Solamin> For games that take up massive amounts of memory.
#2480 [18:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> bullcrap
#2481 [18:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> 90c isnt good for the pc
#2482 [18:38] <Solamin> That's what I said.
#2483 [18:38] <Solamin> It's a laptop. : \
#2484 [18:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> whatever
#2485 [18:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> what the hell do lg know about this anyway
#2486 [18:39] <Solamin> Fans on the side. Running cooling pad underneath, it's beside a window blowing cold air (It's Canada.).
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#2488 [18:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> canada is a nice place
#2489 [18:39] <Solamin> Minecraft is the ONLY game this happens in.
#2490 [18:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> mc is a very resource intensive game
#2491 [18:39] <Solamin> I can tell..
#2492 [18:40] <AureliusM> Solamin: does the temperature rise less if you use Fast graphics and no Advanced OpenGL ?
#2493 [18:40] <Solamin> Everything in MC is Optimized, it runs at 75-80C with everything on low graphics.
#2494 [18:41] <Solamin> I believe OpenGl is turned off.
#2495 [18:41] <Solamin> Don't want it raping my cpu.
#2496 [18:42] <Wug> advanced opengl*
#2497 [18:42] <Wug> also your cpu can more than handle it
#2498 [18:42] <Solamin> I figure since I bought the Cooling pad in the first place, to stop Bf3 from overheating, I might as well not take chances.
#2499 [18:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> bf3 =/
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#2501 [18:43] <Solamin> Yeah, I get it.
#2502 [18:43] <Solamin> Did it with league too.
#2503 [18:43] <Solamin> And minecraft, from time to time.
#2504 [18:43] <Solamin> I'd rather not stress test my CPU, I normally keep everything Optimized.
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#2506 [18:44] <Wug> well im going back to the states shortly, I'll see you all then. I'll be back at RIT tomorrow evening
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#2508 [18:44] <Wug> I'll have wugbot back online sometime about then
#2509 [18:44] <oldtopman> Solamin: Your CPU will start slowing down before anything bad happens.
#2510 [18:45] <oldtopman> I once fixed a laptop that ran at 100C nonstop due to a dust issue.
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#2512 [18:45] <TEXASFOOTBALL> Hey is there a way i can uncap my minecraft name as of now its TEXASFOOTBALL wondering if i can change it to TexasFootball
#2513 [18:45] <Bradlord33> Hello
#2514 [18:45] <mr_boo> hello i buy me a gift code for minecraft but the code is invalid
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#2516 [18:45] <Bradlord33> I have a problem i try to connect tonight with my account and it tells me bad login
#2517 [18:45] <Bradlord33> impossible to login
#2518 [18:46] <Bradlord33> Trying severals times restartign the computer nothing to do
#2519 [18:46] <TEXASFOOTBALL> password incorrect?
#2520 [18:46] <Bradlord33> No just Bad login
#2521 [18:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> mr_boo - you didnt tell it to anyone else did you?
#2522 [18:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> or show it to anyon
#2523 [18:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> e
#2524 [18:46] <mr_boo> i didnt tell it anyone
#2525 [18:46] <mr_boo> no
#2526 [18:47] <TEXASFOOTBALL> ahh ur trying to play with a free account or u selected play offline Bradlord
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#2528 [18:47] <Bradlord33> Well i brought an account liek 1 years ago
#2529 [18:47] <Bradlord33> First time i have this problem
#2530 [18:47] <TEXASFOOTBALL> Are you using that account you bought a year ago?
#2531 [18:47] <Bradlord33> Yes
#2532 [18:47] <mr_boo> what can i do?
#2533 [18:48] <Bradlord33> I use it everyday
#2534 [18:48] <Bradlord33> Never had this problem
#2535 [18:48] <TEXASFOOTBALL> Did it give you the:cant connect to minevraft.net" message wen u logged in?
#2536 [18:48] <TEXASFOOTBALL> *minecraft
#2537 [18:49] <Scott> TEXASFOOTBALL: A free account?
#2538 [18:49] <Bradlord33> No
#2539 [18:49] <Bradlord33> The only message that appeared was " Bad login failed to connect or w.e "
#2540 [18:49] <TEXASFOOTBALL> Well im not sure then
#2541 [18:49] <Scott> What do you mean by a free account, TEXASFOOTBALL?
#2542 [18:49] <mr_boo> WhereIsMySpoon what can i do?
#2543 [18:49] <Scott> Hi mr_boo, did it give you a code?
#2544 [18:50] <Bradlord33> Anyone else can help me ?
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#2546 [18:50] <Scott> Bradlord33: What is your problem?
#2547 [18:50] <mr_boo> i have a code yes
#2548 [18:50] <Scott> And what error do you get?
#2549 [18:50] <mohawk> i can't even play cuz i have the launcher but hen i want to play it says not downloaded
#2550 [18:50] <mohawk> when*
#2551 [18:50] <Bradlord33> Well I try to connect to mincraft with my accoutn and it tells me bad login i tried to restart the computer same problem trying to relaunch minecraft etc still same problem
#2552 [18:50] <mohawk> need help
#2553 [18:51] <mr_boo> i have a code with 12 letters and numbers
#2554 [18:51] <Scott> Bradlord33: What is your minecraft username?
#2555 [18:51] <Bradlord33> Bradlord33
#2556 [18:51] <Scott> !paid bradlord33
#2557 [18:51] <TEXASFOOTBALL> @Scott Is there a way i can uncap my name from TEXASFOOTBALL to TexasFootball?
#2558 [18:51] <Scott> Are you sure you're entering the correct password?
#2559 [18:51] <Bradlord33> Im pretty sure
#2560 [18:51] <mohawk> can anyone help
#2561 [18:51] <Scott> TEXASFOOTBALL: Your Minecraft username? Also, you never answered me.
#2562 [18:51] <mib_cjl2vx> when i login the screen just goes off and says error
#2563 [18:52] <TEXASFOOTBALL> Scott : Yes
#2564 [18:52] <Bradlord33> Oh
#2565 [18:52] <Scott> TEXASFOOTBALL: You cannot change your username at this time.
#2566 [18:52] <Bradlord33> Nevermind if works now...
#2567 [18:52] <Bradlord33> it*
#2568 [18:52] <Scott> Bradlord33 :)
#2569 [18:52] <TEXASFOOTBALL> Scott: thanks
#2570 [18:52] <Bradlord33> Thank you for your help
#2571 [18:52] <Bradlord33> xD
#2572 [18:52] <Scott> mohawk: Problem?
#2573 [18:52] <Bradlord33> Bye and have fun !
#2574 [18:53] <mr_boo> Scott i have a code with 12 letters and numbers
#2575 [18:53] <mib_cjl2vx> my minecraft just turns off and says error
#2576 [18:53] <Scott> mr_boo: OK. How did you buy it?
#2577 [18:53] <mr_boo> on mmoga
#2578 [18:53] <Scott> mr_boo: be more specific.
#2579 [18:53] <Scott> mr_boo: We cannot help you then. You were probably scammed.
#2580 [18:54] <mr_boo> okay
#2581 [18:54] <Scott> You should only buy the game or gift codes from minecraft.net.
#2582 [18:54] <Scott> No other sites except 1 educational reseller is permitted to resell codes.
#2583 [18:56] <Solamin> Odd.
#2584 [18:56] <Solamin> 13 minutes without any issues...
#2585 [18:57] <Solamin> Apparently all I had to do was switch the full graphics?
#2586 [18:57] <Solamin> O.o
#2587 [18:57] <Tressler> I have a paid account and set up a multiplayer server. The server is working, except that It disconnects anyone who creates a bucket. They (including myself) can no longer join the server without removing the player file from the server. Is there anything to i can do about this?
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#2589 [18:58] <mr_boo> okay scott thank you for your help
#2590 [18:58] <mr_boo> bye
#2591 [18:58] <Scott> Tressler: Are you using any mods?
#2592 [18:59] <Solamin> it probably had something to do with me uninstalling 32-bit java.
#2593 [18:59] <Solamin> give my thanks to wug if you see him. :D
#2594 [18:59] <Tressler> yes, Finite Water. Its not installed on the server, and others have tried joining without any mods
#2595 [19:00] <Tressler> Whenever i try a creativer server i can hold a water/milk/lava bucket, just not an empty one without a crash
#2596 [19:00] <AureliusM> Tressler: the server is the 1.0.1 jar I assume?
#2597 [19:00] <Tressler> yes. Downloaded directly from the minecraft website
#2598 [19:03] <oldtopman> ??> Tressler win/reinst/bat
#2599 [19:03] <VoxelHead> Tressler: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2600 [19:03] <VoxelHead> Tressler: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#2601 [19:03] <oldtopman> Tressler: Run that on the client.
#2602 [19:04] <Tressler> ok. I will try that. Thanks.
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#2605 [19:06] <RoyCraft> voor nederlanders >>>> http://roycraft.forumgratis.nl/
#2606 [19:07] <RoyCraft> hello??
#2607 [19:07] <TGF> Any way you can repeat a command ?
#2608 [19:08] <RoyCraft> for MP?
#2609 [19:08] <RoyCraft> for a bukkit client, I can help
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#2618 [19:19] <Jet_Mapex> hi
#2619 [19:20] <Jet_Mapex> can somebody help me set up a static ip?
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#2622 [19:21] <DreadLindwyrm> You;d generally get that from your ISP
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#2625 [19:30] <dina> how long does it take for payment and authorization to play?? We paid for the game, got the email verification, but can't get into the game.
#2626 [19:31] <dina> nevermind, just saw the non affiliation with mojang.....even tho they say to come here for help. This game/website is the most difficult I've ever encountered to navigate.
#2627 [19:31] <dina> No customer service sucks!!!!
#2628 [19:31] <DreadLindwyrm> What happens when you try to log in?
#2629 [19:32] <dina> it says to purchase the game...
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#2631 [19:32] <mib_0n654d> hi i bought minecraft about three hours ago, how long until im premium?
#2632 [19:33] <dina> I'd hate to purchase it twice....wouldn't know where to go to get my money back as I can't seem to find any customer service.
#2633 [19:33] <DreadLindwyrm> dina - what username did you pick?
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#2635 [19:33] <dina> spinner541
#2636 [19:33] <DreadLindwyrm> !paid spinner541
#2637 [19:33] <DreadLindwyrm> OK, that means that the server hasn't confirmed the payment at their end.
#2638 [19:34] <dina> should i continue to wait for it to be confimed?
#2639 [19:34] <DreadLindwyrm> It can take a day or two for all the systems to fully update. I'd recommend trying again tomorrow.
#2640 [19:34] <mib_4d9n9p> "/nick hail"
#2641 [19:34] <mib_0n654d> so dread, that would go the same for me then too?
#2642 [19:34] <dina> Thanks very much for your help....we'll wait another day.
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#2644 [19:35] <DreadLindwyrm> No problems. mib_4d9n9p I'd suggest the same.
#2645 [19:35] <DreadLindwyrm> mib_0n654d: sorry, autocomplete is a pain.
#2646 [19:36] <mib_0n654d> haha okay thanks
#2647 [19:36] <dina> true that!! :)
#2648 [19:36] <mib_bzpwmp> hello
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#2652 [19:37] <mib_bzpwmp> i have just bought minecraft and i dowloaded it. opened it, signed in and loged in, then it went black and my computer restarted itself. this keeps happening :(
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#2654 [19:38] <Nathan2055> Has anyone noticed that Slime spawn rates are up in the new snapshot?
#2655 [19:41] <Nathan2055> Has anyone noticed that Slime spawn rates are up in the new snapshot?
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#2662 [19:45] <Morrolan> Now why did you REGAIN your nick, GreyVulpine?
#2663 [19:46] <Morrolan> Couldn't GHOST it?
#2664 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> bwah?
#2665 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Oh, *shrug*
#2666 [19:47] <Morrolan> "GreyVulpine [~GreyVulpi@c-76-122-172-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] hat den Server verlassen: Killed (chaos.esper.net (Nickname regained by services))" <- that wasn't exactly a GHOST, was it?
#2667 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> There have been times when I couldn't ghost my nick for some reason, I've since changed my on connect script to REGAIN instead
#2668 [19:48] <Morrolan> Ah, I see.
#2669 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> That was quite a long while ago.
#2670 [19:48] <Morrolan> I mean there probably is no difference in functionality, regain just seems more aggressive to me. :P
#2671 [19:48] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2671 [19:48] <Morrolan> Okok. ;)
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#2673 [19:49] <Hawkhead> does any body know of a really good multiplayer server?
#2674 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#2675 [19:50] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2676 [19:50] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2677 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> One of those will give you a server or three to try.
#2678 [19:50] <Hawkhead> thanks
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#2684 [20:00] <wannabemac> Hello.
#2685 [20:00] <sudormrf> Hi. I have a local server running between a few of my home computers. I want to be able to access the map file for the server.. any idea where I could find it?
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#2687 [20:01] <Morrolan> In the folder where you put the server is a folder called "world", sudormrf.
#2688 [20:01] <Morrolan> That's the one you want.
#2689 [20:01] <sudormrf> Ha... funny.. I JUST found it as you beeped.
#2690 [20:01] <sudormrf> Thanks much.
#2691 [20:02] <Morrolan> Sure thing.
#2692 [20:02] <Morrolan> ALso, the webchat has a highlight function? Neat. :)
#2693 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Indieroyale bundle price just dropped to 3.05
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#2701 [20:14] <blakeman1> hello!
#2702 [20:16] <blakeman1> !check 71.226.79.70:25565
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#2704 [20:18] <blakeman1> !check 71.226.79.70:59321
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#2706 [20:29] <RhiTehn> Every time I try to register with the minecraft website it says (even if I use a brand new email address) the email address is in use, and wont let me register...
#2707 [20:29] <RhiTehn> I wanna buy the gaaaaaaaaaame ::wails::
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#2709 [20:30] <dr_bibble> i have bought the game but i didnt take an email with the code whats wrong?
#2710 [20:31] <TheNytangel> It can take a couple of minutes
#2711 [20:31] <TheNytangel> It can take a couple of minutes
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#2713 [20:42] <RhiTehn> registration site is still www.minecraft.net/register ? Nothing has changed that I need to know about?
#2714 [20:45] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Indieroyale? Since when has that been around?
#2715 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Not that long
#2716 [20:47] <Morrolan> Thanks for bringing it to my attention then. :)
#2717 [20:48] <Morrolan> Guess I'll buy it for my default pay-what-you-want price.
#2718 [20:50] <Morrolan> Heh, I entered the price in $, and while paying it wanted to charge me the same price in €. ^^
#2719 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> heh
#2720 [20:51] <Morrolan> And this is how you get your clients to pay more than they want. :)
#2721 [20:52] <Morrolan> I do like that they are using a minimum amount, that's something I always missed with the HumbleBundle.
#2722 [20:53] <Morrolan> No point in earning less than you'll spend on bandwith and energy costs.
#2723 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> Hah, yeah
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#2725 [20:56] <Morrolan> G'night
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#2731 [21:04] <skippy2> hello
#2732 [21:04] <skippy2> anyone here
#2733 [21:05] <skippy2> grey can u help me
#2734 [21:05] <skippy2> someone help me
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#2737 [21:09] <skippy2> hello can someone help me
#2738 [21:10] <peru> umm im just ordinary user here so i cant help you
#2739 [21:10] <peru> but maybe someone will if you describe your problem
#2740 [21:13] <skippy2> i have bad video card drivers
#2741 [21:13] <skippy2> i have a vostro 1000 and windows vista
#2742 [21:14] <skippy2> peru thanks
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#2744 [21:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> skippy2 - then upgrade them/?
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#2747 [21:25] <ig88hk> hi i need help!
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#2750 [21:37] <michert> While playing minecraft I experience lag after about 5 minutes of play. I was thinking unistalling and reistalling minecraft would fix it. Is this a good idea? Will I lose my worlds?
#2751 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps, especially if you had any mods. And no, you wouldn't lose your worlds if you did it right
#2752 [21:38] <michert> How would I do it "right"?
#2753 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> michert - That all depends on what operating system you're on
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#2755 [21:40] <michert> What operating system would I have to use to keep my worlds?
#2756 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Well, if you can tell me what operating system you're on, I can give you specific instructions on how to clear minecraft, without deleting your saved worlds in the process
#2757 [21:42] <michert> Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Java product version 7.0.20.13
#2758 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> Alright. In order to uninstall minecraft properly, you'd first delete the minecraft.exe launcher that you got from the website. Next, go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata% and press enter. Find the .minecraft folder. Delete everything inside except for the saves folder
#2759 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the launcher, and it'll download the latest minecraft files for you.
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#2761 [21:46] <tiwake> 600ppl in the main channel... o.0
#2762 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#2763 [21:48] <tiwake> was doing a little experimenting, and it seems that the two servers I pinged would be about twice as long from a ping command to the in-game ping time
#2764 [21:48] <michert> How do you delete the minecraft.exe launcher?
#2765 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> michert - Highlight the minecraft.exe icon and press delete?
#2766 [21:49] <tiwake> is this typical for minecraft servers? or is something wrong with how its set up or something?
#2767 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> tiwake - Huh?
#2768 [21:50] <michert> where would i find the icon?
#2769 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> michert - How do you run minecraft?
#2770 [21:51] <tiwake> so, if I ping from the command line a server, it might be 100ms, when I get in the minecraft game it might say 200ms ping time..
#2771 [21:52] <michert> is it the icon you open to login to minecraft, or the login screen?
#2772 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> michert - The icon you use to open the launcher, which you use to log into minecraft
#2773 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> tiwake - I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, frankly.
#2774 [21:52] <tiwake> lol
#2775 [21:53] <tiwake> lets say my server
#2776 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> How are you checking the latency time ingame?
#2777 [21:53] <tiwake> tiwake.com
#2778 [21:53] <tiwake> oh, before you actually join the game its got those bars that if you hover your mouse over it tells you what the ping time is
#2779 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Right...
#2780 [21:54] <tiwake> so that time
#2781 [21:54] <tiwake> vs the command ping tiwake.com
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#2783 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> tiwake - I don't honestly know why the discrepancy
#2784 [21:57] <tiwake> me neither, but I was wondering if thats typical for minecraft servers
#2785 [21:57] <tiwake> the 2x ping time difference between those two values
#2786 [21:58] <tiwake> tried it on a different server and got about the same conclusion
#2787 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> I don't know. Minecraft obviously doesn't use a raw ping value then.
#2788 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps minecraft's adding some other latency in with the bare value?
#2789 [21:59] <tiwake> the command its self is generally bounced off the router...
#2790 [21:59] <tiwake> I donno
#2791 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, the ping times are a wee bit over 2x for me as well.
#2792 [22:00] <tiwake> donno if there is a way I could lower that
#2793 [22:01] <tiwake> to something close to the actual ping
#2794 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> I don't think so.
#2795 [22:01] <tiwake> other than going over a LAN connection :D
#2796 [22:01] <michert> You redownload though the minecraft website, right?
#2797 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> michert - Yes
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#2799 [22:02] <skippy2> i need help getting better video card drivers
#2800 [22:02] <tiwake> how does the minecraft client ping the server?
#2801 [22:02] <michert> Once you are on the website, do you click buy now, is there smething else?
#2802 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> michert - You click on Download, beneath the Buy now button
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#2805 [22:03] <Fangedgameer> Hey how do I craet my own server?
#2806 [22:03] <skippy2> hi grey do u remember me
#2807 [22:03] <Fangedgameer> Create*
#2808 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> ??> Fangedgameer smp/serversetup
#2809 [22:03] <VoxelHead> Fangedgameer: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#2810 [22:04] <VoxelHead> Fangedgameer: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2811 [22:04] <tiwake> maybe I could try setting up a dev version... perhaps there is some optimization stuff being worked on
#2812 [22:04] <skippy2> grey can u help me again
#2813 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - I've already told you how to update your video drivers
#2814 [22:05] <skippy2> but it didnt work
#2815 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Then there's no way to update your video drivers.
#2816 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - That is the only way to update your video drivers
#2817 [22:05] <tiwake> GreyVulpine: are you popular today :)
#2818 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> tiwake - Welcome to everyday
#2819 [22:05] <skippy2> what knd of windows works best
#2820 [22:06] <skippy2> on minecraft
#2821 [22:06] <skippy2> :)
#2822 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Any windows will work
#2823 [22:06] <tiwake> skippy2: windows millennium edition
#2824 [22:06] <skippy2> ya i wish]
#2825 [22:06] <skippy2> then howcome mine doesnt work
#2826 [22:07] <michert> Works Great! Thank You so so much!!!!!!
#2827 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Your problem is that you haven't actually installed your video drivers.
#2828 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> When you download the .zip file from the website, you'll need to extract the files to a folder, then run the setup.exe file
#2829 [22:08] <skippy2> k
#2830 [22:08] <skippy2> i dont think i have setup exe file
#2831 [22:09] <tiwake> GreyVulpine: could you check a server that you know dosent lag much (if at all) the ping time difference?
#2832 [22:09] <skippy2> ive got a setup inx
#2833 [22:09] <skippy2> does it matter
#2834 [22:09] <tiwake> GreyVulpine: my server and the other server I checked are not really good representatives
#2835 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> tiwake - I don't know really. This is really the first time I've actually checked the ping times
#2836 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Give me one second. I'm going to download the file.
#2837 [22:11] <tiwake> meh
#2838 [22:11] <tiwake> GreyVulpine: could you check a known good server for me though? or give me an address so I could?
#2839 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> tiwake - mc.minecraftirc.net or smp.shadow-craft.net or s.nerd.nu
#2840 [22:12] <tiwake> thanks
#2841 [22:12] <skippy2> what file
#2842 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - The drivers, that I had you download from dell's site yesterday?
#2843 [22:13] <skippy2> k
#2844 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Go to: C:\dell\drivers\R168684\
#2845 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Do you see that folder?
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#2847 [22:14] <skippy2> no
#2848 [22:14] <skippy2> were doi find it
#2849 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Go download the video drivers again from: http://downloads.dell.com/video/R168684.EXE
#2850 [22:15] <tiwake> GreyVulpine: yeah, seems to be a bit over 2x like I said before
#2851 [22:16] <tiwake> hmm
#2852 [22:16] <skippy2> this might take time
#2853 [22:17] <Ep1cD1M3> Hello everyone.
#2854 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Ep1cD1M3 - 'lo
#2855 [22:17] <skippy2> hi
#2856 [22:17] <Ep1cD1M3> I have a question.
#2857 [22:17] <skippy2> yes
#2858 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Ep1cD1M3 - We have answers.
#2859 [22:18] <Ep1cD1M3> I keep getting a memory error. My laptop says I have 6G RAM.
#2860 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Ep1cD1M3 - In minecraft?
#2861 [22:18] <Ep1cD1M3> I am hearing Vista 32bit can only run 3G RAM. Is this true?
#2862 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Ep1cD1M3 - That is true.
#2863 [22:18] <Ep1cD1M3> Yes in Minecraft
#2864 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Do you have 32 or 64 bit windows?
#2865 [22:18] <Ep1cD1M3> 32 bit.
#2866 [22:18] <tiwake> any 32bit operating system can only address at most 4 gigs of RAM
#2867 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> With 6GB of RAM?
#2868 [22:19] <Ep1cD1M3> Yes, I have a Dell studio 15 with 6 gig RAM but people keep telling me
#2869 [22:19] <skippy2> almost done
#2870 [22:19] <Ep1cD1M3> I can only run 3.5 gigs of it.
#2871 [22:19] <tiwake> 4 actually, but yeah
#2872 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Ep1cD1M3 - Could you go to your start menu, right click on "Computer", and choose properties. Look at System type
#2873 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Tell me what you see next to System type, as well as Memory.
#2874 [22:20] <Ep1cD1M3> 32-bit Operating System
#2875 [22:20] <Ep1cD1M3> 6.00 GB
#2876 [22:20] <skippy2> grey im done
#2877 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Run the file
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#2879 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Ep1cD1M3 - Hmm, then there's really no fix for you. Go into Minecraft's video options, turn down the render distance from Far to normal.
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#2881 [22:21] <skippy2> were should i unzip the files to
#2882 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Ep1cD1M3 - This will lessen how much RAM java will take up for minecraft.
#2883 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - The default folder will do
#2884 [22:22] <Ep1cD1M3> I currently have it on normal already.
#2885 [22:22] <tiwake> heh, you could install linux 64bit and just run minecraft on linux
#2886 [22:23] <Ep1cD1M3> My laptop is peaking out on RAM as it is for some reason.
#2887 [22:23] <Ep1cD1M3> When I play minecraft I can't have other programs running.
#2888 [22:23] <tiwake> vista likes to eat RAM as it is
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#2890 [22:23] <tiwake> more than windows7
#2891 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Ep1cD1M3 - You may want to try turning down some of the graphics options a bit further.
#2892 [22:24] <skippy2> the default folder is my computer is that ok
#2893 [22:24] <Ep1cD1M3> Ok, I will give that a shot. Thank you.
#2894 [22:24] <skippy2> grey the default folder is my computer is that ok
#2895 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Try C:\dell\drivers\R168684\
#2896 [22:25] <tiwake> GreyVulpine: are there dev versions of minecraft that I could try out?
#2897 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> ?? snapshot
#2898 [22:25] <VoxelHead> snapshot: Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w01a/minecraft.jar
#2899 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2900 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> replace minecraft with minecraft_server if you want the server
#2901 [22:25] <tiwake> mm, thanks
#2902 [22:25] <skippy2> all file were secsesfully unziped
#2903 [22:26] <skippy2> files
#2904 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - It should have launched the setup file.
#2905 [22:26] <skippy2> grey?
#2906 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Yes?
#2907 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Do you now see an ATI setup window?
#2908 [22:26] <skippy2> it didnt
#2909 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Go to C:\dell\drivers\R168684\
#2910 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Do you see the folder?
#2911 [22:26] <skippy2> i see the ati
#2912 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Do you see setup.exe
#2913 [22:26] <tiwake> GreyVulpine: does it conflict with the current version at all?
#2914 [22:27] <tiwake> thats installed
#2915 [22:27] <skippy2> one sec
#2916 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> tiwake - I'd back up your current minecraft.jar in ~/.minecraft, also back up your saves, just to be sure
#2917 [22:27] <tiwake> saves?
#2918 [22:27] <Fangedgameer> What is a Terminal, when refered to creating a smp server
#2919 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> in ~/.minecraft/saves
#2920 [22:27] <skippy2> its just a big sign of ati
#2921 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Look for a window that asks if you want to install it
#2922 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Where are you seeing this?
#2923 [22:28] <skippy2> is it the installshield wizerd
#2924 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Are you on a macOS or Linux?
#2925 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Yes
#2926 [22:28] <tiwake> Fangedgameer: its the... herm.. how to explain the command line (terminal)
#2927 [22:29] <Fangedgameer> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Start_the_Minecraft_server Then click Start the Minecraft server in the ToC
#2928 [22:29] <skippy2> exprees or custom
#2929 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Express
#2930 [22:29] <Fangedgameer> I am on Windows
#2931 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> You're looking at the linux instructions
#2932 [22:30] <skippy2> it just went away
#2933 [22:30] <Fangedgameer> I see, I see the windows instructions also
#2934 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Did it install?
#2935 [22:31] <skippy2> i think
#2936 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Did it ask you to reboot your machine?
#2937 [22:31] <skippy2> no should i do it again
#2938 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea skippy2, I don't see your screen.
#2939 [22:32] <skippy2> i will do it again
#2940 [22:34] <Fangedgameer> Is this new file 'world' that came up on my desktop the new server?
#2941 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> That, among many other files, yes.
#2942 [22:34] <Fangedgameer> Ok do I drag the other files into the world file?
#2943 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> No
#2944 [22:34] <skippy2> it said i need a standerd VGA driver
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#2946 [22:35] <Fangedgameer> Make a new File and do so?
#2947 [22:35] <Fangedgameer> New folder*
#2948 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> What you should have done, is place minecraft_server in its own folder. When you run minecraft_server, it generates new files
#2949 [22:35] <Fangedgameer> Ok
#2950 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Delete world, ops.txt, server.properties, whitelist.txt, and the other files on your desktop now
#2951 [22:36] <Fangedgameer> Ok
#2952 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> The server will generate those files in the folder where you have the server.
#2953 [22:36] <skippy2> GreyVulpine it said i need a standerd VGA driver
#2954 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Say what?
#2955 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - What says that?
#2956 [22:38] <Fangedgameer> Do i create a folder and then download and sae Minecraft_Setup in it?
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#2958 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Minecraft_server, yes
#2959 [22:39] <skippy2> setup was unable to complete the installation try to set up your adapter with a standerd VGA driver before running setup
#2960 [22:39] <skippy2> thats what it said
#2961 [22:40] <skippy2> GreyVulpine?
#2962 [22:40] <tiwake> well, lets see about getting this dev minecraft going
#2963 [22:40] <Fangedgameer> Ok so now I drag all the new created files into the Minecraft_Setup folder?
#2964 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - That's up to you
#2965 [22:40] <Fangedgameer> ?
#2966 [22:41] <Fangedgameer> What happens if i do/dont?
#2967 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Running the minecraft_server will generate whatever files it needs. If it doesn't see an ops.txt file, it'll generate it
#2968 [22:41] <skippy2> setup was unable to complete the installation try to set up your adapter with a standerd VGA driver before running setup
#2969 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Reboot your machine, run the setup file again
#2970 [22:41] <skippy2> k
#2971 [22:41] <skippy2> bi i will be back
#2972 [22:42] <Fangedgameer> Ok so i can delete the new files
#2973 [22:42] <Fangedgameer> ?
#2974 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Yes
#2975 [22:43] <Fangedgameer> OK On the Mincraft_setup I ran, at the very bottom it says 'done' now is there anything else i need to do?
#2976 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Nope. server's running.
#2977 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Just connect to it with your client
#2978 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Just connect to it with your client
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#2980 [22:46] <Fangedgameer> What do you mean connect it with my client?
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#2982 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Launch your minecraft, the one you use to play
#2983 [22:46] <skippy2> grey im back
#2984 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Go to the multiplayer option. Use the direct connect button, put in: localhost
#2985 [22:47] <skippy2> GreyVulpine?
#2986 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - yes?
#2987 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Have you reran the setup file?
#2988 [22:47] <Fangedgameer> GreyVulpine It says: connection refused: connect
#2989 [22:47] <skippy2> yes but it didnt work
#2990 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - are you on the same computer that you've just run the server on?
#2991 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - What does it say now?
#2992 [22:48] <skippy2> same thing
#2993 [22:48] <skippy2> should i try on my mac
#2994 [22:49] <Fangedgameer> Yes
#2995 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Is the server window still open?
#2996 [22:49] <Fangedgameer> No, Do I need to open it?
#2997 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - You need to keep it open for the server to run
#2998 [22:50] <tiwake> interesting
#2999 [22:50] <tiwake> GreyVulpine: the server part seems to be working
#3000 [22:50] <skippy2> GreyVulpine should i try again
#3001 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Yes
#3002 [22:50] <tiwake> GreyVulpine: however when I run the client it says...
#3003 [22:50] <tiwake> walter@walter-Ubuntu:~/Desktop$ java -jar minecraft.jar
#3004 [22:50] <tiwake> Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from
#3005 [22:50] <tiwake> minecraft.jar
#3006 [22:50] <tiwake> walter@walter-Ubuntu:~/Desktop$
#3007 [22:51] <skippy2> ok
#3008 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> tiwake - Wait, are you running the minecraft.jar from the download?
#3009 [22:51] <skippy2> does minecraft work on a mac
#3010 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Yes it does
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#3012 [22:51] <cornelius> is minecraft compatable with windows 7?
#3013 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> tiwake - The minecraft.jar from the snapshot link, goes into your ~/.minecraft/bin/ folder
#3014 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> cornelius - Yes it is
#3015 [22:52] <tiwake> GreyVulpine: this is the pre-release snapshot... and no.. I'm not
#3016 [22:52] <cornelius> why do i lag soooo badly after like 10 minutes of play
#3017 [22:52] <cornelius> even though i have optifine
#3018 [22:52] <Fangedgameer> GreyVulpine on the Mincraft Server window at the top it says things like: Failed to load ban list, Failed to load operators list....etc
#3019 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> cornelius - If you're running optifine and it still lags, then your computer is too old to run minecraft properly.
#3020 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - That's normal
#3021 [22:52] <cornelius> but its brand new
#3022 [22:53] <cornelius> and its a relatively new model
#3023 [22:53] <tiwake> Fangedgameer: thats fine, you are running it for the first time so it has to make those files
#3024 [22:53] <cornelius> newer than my old one
#3025 [22:53] <cornelius> which runs mc better
#3026 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Now, keep that window open, launch minecraft.
#3027 [22:53] <Fangedgameer> GreyVulpine But when i try and connect to localhost it will say something like: End of Stream
#3028 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Try connecting to it now
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#3030 [22:53] <cornelius> did you port forward?
#3031 [22:54] <Fangedgameer> Same result
#3032 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - What exactly does it say?
#3033 [22:54] <Fangedgameer> "Connection Lost
#3034 [22:54] <Fangedgameer> End of strem"
#3035 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Then you've got something on your machine that filters traffic. What security software do you have?
#3036 [22:55] <Fangedgameer> AVG but it doesnt say it works
#3037 [22:55] <Fangedgameer> Like since its not free anymore
#3038 [22:55] <skippy2> im try my mac
#3039 [22:56] <skippy2> sorry trying
#3040 [22:56] <tiwake> GreyVulpine: as I recall that error message "Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from minecraft.jar" means it dosent know what file makes it start
#3041 [22:56] <tiwake> erm
#3042 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> tiwake - redownload minecraft.jar from minecraft.net/download
#3043 [22:56] <Western> Who best to direct a payment issue with paypal vs minecraft?
#3044 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> That's what you use to launch minecraft.
#3045 [22:57] <tiwake> well, the manafest is the file that tells the java runtime what files to start with
#3046 [22:57] <tiwake> GreyVulpine: wait, for the dev version?
#3047 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> tiwake - The thing is, the dev version you download is not what you use to launch minecraft with. It's what you put into your ~/.minecraft/bin folder
#3048 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> The launcher is what you get from minecraft.net/download
#3049 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> That is what you use to launch minecraft
#3050 [22:58] <tiwake> oOo
#3051 [22:58] <Western> The minecraft website is ever refusing to accept a paypal payment... No credit card, no debit card, nothing... Suggestions?
#3052 [22:58] <tiwake> ok,
#3053 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Western - Minecraft doesn't process payments directly. If you can't pay for minecraft through paypal, that's something you'll need to take up with either paypal directly, or your financial institution
#3054 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, Minecraft = Mojang
#3055 [22:59] <skippy2> thank u so much it worked u should work for minecraft GreyVulpine
#3056 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, Mojang couldn't afford me.
#3057 [23:00] * GreyVulpine winks.
#3057 [23:00] <Fangedgameer> GreyVulpine Are you saying run minecraft with AVG?
#3058 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - No, I'm saying, there's something on your machine that's blocking a connection being made to your server if you're getting an end of stream error, even connecting with localhost
#3059 [23:01] <skippy2> i:):):):):):):)thank u so much u dont know how much time this took
#3060 [23:01] <Fangedgameer> So what do I do, then?
#3061 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - You can try turning off AVG or whatever other security software you have on the server.
#3062 [23:02] <Fangedgameer> AVG says it isn't licensed, should it still be able to filter traffic?
#3063 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
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#3065 [23:04] <Fangedgameer> Would I do that by going to Windows Firewall settings?
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#3067 [23:05] <tiwake> GreyVulpine: is there a list of changes so far for the dev version?
#3068 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Do you have any other security software on your machine? Comodo firewall? Zonealarm firewall?
#3069 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> tiwake - One moment, let me dig up the link
#3070 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> http://mojang.com/2012/01/05/minecraft-snapshot-12w01a/
#3071 [23:06] <tiwake> thanks
#3072 [23:06] <Fangedgameer> No
#3073 [23:06] <Fangedgameer> Nothing except windows and AVG
#3074 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - AVG's hasn't been known to filter traffic like this before..
#3075 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure you're getting "End of stream" errors?
#3076 [23:08] <tiwake> GreyVulpine: can you check in minecraft the ping time now to tiwake.com?
#3077 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> Moment.
#3078 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> I'm getting.. 250-300ms ping in-game to tiwake.com
#3079 [23:09] <tiwake> which is about what it was before...
#3080 [23:09] <tiwake> hmm
#3081 [23:11] <Fangedgameer> Now its saying internal error: Java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out
#3082 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> There's something on your computer that's filtering connections locally. Typically a firewall.
#3083 [23:13] <Fangedgameer> Should I disable my firewall
#3084 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Can try..
#3085 [23:14] <tiwake> only to see if thats the problem
#3086 [23:14] <Fangedgameer> Whats recommeneded?
#3087 [23:14] <Fangedgameer> Recommended*
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#3089 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Go ahead and try turning off your firewall, just to test.
#3090 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> If you're able to connect to your server afterwards, you'll know it's that.
#3091 [23:15] <ferminter> Help! i go to buy the game and it says Transaction failed please try again. Then it won't let me put it in for another 24 hours! HELP ME!
#3092 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> ferminter - Try paying with Paypal, it's been known to be more reliable
#3093 [23:16] <ferminter> Ok thank you!
#3094 [23:16] <Fangedgameer> Firewall is not the problem I tried and i got both end of stream and java socket error
#3095 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - You're not running any mods on your minecraft client, right?
#3096 [23:17] <Fangedgameer> Just optifine 1.0, and a texture pack
#3097 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> Hmm...
#3098 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Could you try connecting to the server: mc.minecraftirc.net on that computer?
#3099 [23:19] <Fangedgameer> Yeah im there
#3100 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> You've connected fine?
#3101 [23:19] <Fangedgameer> Yeah
#3102 [23:19] <Fangedgameer> Short time too
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#3104 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> Then there's nothing wrong with your client. It's something to do with your server/computer
#3105 [23:19] <amosngweein> Hi
#3106 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Where did you download the server from?
#3107 [23:19] <amosngweein> Anybody need helps?
#3108 [23:20] <Fangedgameer> The Official minecraft site
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#3110 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - What other security software do you have on the machine, other than avg?
#3111 [23:21] <Fangedgameer> Nothing that I know of
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#3113 [23:22] <tiwake> amosngweein: lol... trying to figure out how to reduce ping time inside of minecraft
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#3116 [23:22] <Crontic> *Crontic jumps over to the area that he wants to build, as he begins placing and removing dirt to flatten the land. Crontic puts his builders items in the hotbar, and minecraft crashes* Hello there. Every 5 minutes I will get a Java error, and my Minecraft will shut down. I run fine at about 150 FPS, and for some reason it just crashes. I have the latest ver
#3117 [23:22] <tiwake> amosngweein: actual ping time is 1/2 that of minecraft
#3118 [23:23] <Crontic> sion of java.
#3119 [23:23] <Crontic> What could my problem be?
#3120 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> Crontic - Got any error reports that you can share with us?
#3121 [23:23] <Crontic> No.
#3122 [23:23] <Crontic> It just comes up with a box that says 'Minecraft has stopped working'
#3123 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> Crontic - Look at where you have the launcher, you should also see a file named Hs_err_pid
#3124 [23:24] <tiwake> Crontic: you could launch minecraft from the command prompt and see what the error message is
#3125 [23:24] <Crontic> And how do I do that?
#3126 [23:24] <zkxs> Crontic: You could use this instead of the command line: ftp://3545.no-ip.org/files/%23minecrafthelp/MCH-Launcher.jar
#3127 [23:25] <tiwake> open up the start menu and... meh.. I'm not on windows right now
#3128 [23:25] <tiwake> I dont like the windows command line anyway :P
#3129 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Could you try disabling AVG and trying to connect to your server?
#3130 [23:25] <Crontic> I dont play on servers.
#3131 [23:25] <Fangedgameer> How do I disable AVG?
#3132 [23:25] <Crontic> I'm a single player guy.
#3133 [23:26] <zkxs> MCH-Launcher.jar saves a log to %appdata%\.minecraft\minecraft.log
#3134 [23:26] <Crontic> :P
#3135 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Try launching the control panel for AVG
#3136 [23:26] <Crontic> Hhhhm . . .
#3137 [23:26] <Crontic> Its starting to work o-o
#3138 [23:27] <Crontic> Ty.
#3139 [23:27] <Fangedgameer> GreyVulpine Uh.... I got the control panel open.. now what? .-.
#3140 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Look for an option to disable it?
#3141 [23:28] <tiwake> GreyVulpine: who should I talk to about this ping time issue?
#3142 [23:28] <tiwake> enh
#3143 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> tiwake - I have absolutely no idea
#3144 [23:28] <tiwake> well
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#3146 [23:28] <Fangedgameer> I got the regular control panel open, I did not understand what you meant bt launch it for avg, and when i search avg in the control panel nothing shows
#3147 [23:28] <Fangedgameer> Wait
#3148 [23:28] <tiwake> GreyVulpine: I'm thinking its just poor programming... every server I've looked at is the same
#3149 [23:28] <mib_d6tl18> Ugh, again it wouldent let me pay! I tried Visa, MasterCard, PayPal nothing seems to work!
#3150 [23:29] <zkxs> Fangedgameer: AVG should have a little icon in the lower right corner of your screen
#3151 [23:29] <mib_d6tl18> It just wont let me get the game!
#3152 [23:29] <zkxs> Fangedgameer: right clicking on it will give you an option to bring up the UI
#3153 [23:30] <Fangedgameer> zkxs No it doesnt...
#3154 [23:30] <mib_d6tl18> So guid me through this please!
#3155 [23:31] <zkxs> Fangedgameer: Nothing says 'Open AVG User Interface'?
#3156 [23:31] <mib_d6tl18> :L
#3157 [23:32] <Fangedgameer> Uhh Nope
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#3159 [23:33] <zkxs> Fangedgameer: What if you type AVG into the start menu?
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#3161 [23:33] <iExtant> what can you do with nether rock?
#3162 [23:33] <mib_d6tl18> So help me!
#3163 [23:34] <Fangedgameer> Theres the UI
#3164 [23:34] <iExtant> ui?
#3165 [23:35] <mib_d6tl18> :|
#3166 [23:35] <zkxs> User Interface
#3167 [23:35] <xales> mib_d6tl18: Contact your bank if your method of payment is being denied.
#3168 [23:35] <xales> If you are trying to pay with a gift card, that won't work.
#3169 [23:35] <mib_d6tl18> Im not
#3170 [23:36] <mib_d6tl18> I tried Visa, mastercard, and paypal
#3171 [23:36] <xales> mib_d6tl18: What are you trying to use to buy it with, and what does it say when you try to use it?
#3172 [23:36] <mib_d6tl18> Both my visa and mastercard got billed and i didn't get the game.
#3173 [23:37] <xales> ...
#3174 [23:37] <mib_d6tl18> Not like the download
#3175 [23:37] <xales> Did you *try* logging in?
#3176 [23:37] <zkxs> mib_d6tl18: What is your minecraft username?
#3177 [23:37] <mib_d6tl18> Kranago
#3178 [23:37] <zkxs> Well, that user isn't premium...
#3179 [23:38] <mib_d6tl18> I know
#3180 [23:38] <xales> mib_d6tl18: How long ago did you try to purchase it?
#3181 [23:38] <xales> mib_d6tl18: Also, did you buy a gift code?
#3182 [23:38] <mib_d6tl18> It said transaction failed and since thursday
#3183 [23:39] <Fangedgameer> Brb for a while
#3184 [23:39] <mib_d6tl18> After i clicked back to merch it said transaction complete but i still wasnt premium
#3185 [23:39] <mib_d6tl18> And then i got billed
#3186 [23:39] <xales> mib_d6tl18: Call your bank to inquire as to the reason for the denied transaction. Additionally, check that the charges have gone through.
#3187 [23:40] <xales> If it has been more than 24 hours, the charge has gone through, and you are still not marked premium, then you either bought a gift code or the payment gateway you used got screwed up, and you should contact them.
#3188 [23:40] <zkxs> right after you pay, minecraft.net doesn't actually know if it worked, it just assumes the transaction completed.
#3189 [23:40] <xales> That, or you paid for it under another account.
#3190 [23:40] <mib_d6tl18> I didn't
#3191 [23:41] <mib_d6tl18> I went to store clicked "Buy MineCraft for this account" and i put in my mastercard stuff and still it didn't work... And i live in a small town the bank is closed at 11:00 and on sundays so it's not open tomarrow
#3192 [23:42] <xales> mib_d6tl18: Call the number on the back of your card. They accept calls pretty much all hours (at least that I've seen)
#3193 [23:43] <mib_d6tl18> Ok.
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#3195 [23:46] <mib_d6tl18> They said they don't know why the Transaction was failed. They said everything was running smoothy and i bought food today at the market with my card.
#3196 [23:53] <mib_d6tl18> Ill try paypal again but still not sure :/