#1 [00:01] <mib_d6tl18> Nope
#2 [00:02] <mib_d6tl18> Well :/
#3 [00:03] <mib_d6tl18> Im gonna go and wait till tomarrow
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#8 [00:19] <quiggle> My freind has an exlamation point in his windows username and he needs charater workaround file can you help?
#9 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/!
#10 [00:19] <VoxelHead> win/!: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#11 [00:19] <VoxelHead> win/!: Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#12 [00:19] <quiggle> Thanks
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#15 [00:28] <darcknes> hello I need help
#16 [00:29] <xales> We can't read your mind.
#17 [00:29] <tiwake> dont ask to ask, just ask
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#19 [00:29] <darcknes> sorry
#20 [00:30] <darcknes> my mine craft keeps freezing or some thing close to that
#21 [00:30] <xales> Are you using any mods or texture packs?
#22 [00:30] <darcknes> no
#23 [00:31] <darcknes> no wait I have the Painterly pack
#24 [00:31] <darcknes> texture
#25 [00:31] <xales> Try running it with only the default texture pack.
#26 [00:31] <darcknes> but it freezes at the mojang screen
#27 [00:32] <xales> ??> darcknes forceupdate
#28 [00:32] <VoxelHead> darcknes: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#29 [00:32] <VoxelHead> darcknes: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#30 [00:33] <darcknes> it still freeze
#31 [00:33] <xales> ??> darcknes win/reinst
#32 [00:33] <VoxelHead> darcknes: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#33 [00:33] <VoxelHead> darcknes: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#35 [00:36] <darcknes> it still not working
#36 [00:36] <mib_tlhags> I haved paid for game but cannot download. I can only player in server.
#37 [00:38] <xales> mib_tlhags: What error does it give you?
#38 [00:38] <xales> :ts/launcher > darcknes
#39 [00:39] <xales> hm
#40 [00:39] <mib_tlhags> no error, just pops up cannot download straight away
#41 [00:39] <darcknes> it just freezes
#42 [00:39] <xales> darcknes: Are you trying to use the download, or browser, version?
#43 [00:40] <xales> mib_tlhags: Does it say that when you try to download from minecraft.net or when you try to open Minecraft?
#44 [00:40] <mib_tlhags> download when trying to download from minecraftnet
#45 [00:41] <xales> mib_tlhags: Are you using Internet Explorer?
#46 [00:41] <mib_tlhags> yes
#47 [00:41] <xales> Use a different browser.
#48 [00:41] <xales> For example: http://google.com/chrome
#49 [00:41] <mib_tlhags> like what?
#50 [00:41] <mib_tlhags> ok ill try
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#52 [00:47] <darcknes> hey i tried to play minecraft in browser it froze
#53 [00:48] <darcknes> and made my browser crash
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#55 [00:49] <xales> darcknes: Completely uninstall Java, then reinstall it.
#56 [00:50] <darcknes> tried that only works for a day at best
#57 [00:51] <xales> Try it again, if it still doesn't work after doing that, come back. Make sure you are installing Java 6, not Java 7.
#58 [00:51] <darcknes> ok
#59 [00:51] <xales> g: poke
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#61 [00:53] <Schriever> I've been trying to update minecraft, but am getting the "fatal error 4: null" message. I've found several options, one of which is that my anti-virus might be blocking minecraft and keeping it from connecting. However, I have sophos anti-virus (provided by my university), and even though I added minecraft as an exception, it still isn't working.
#62 [00:53] <Schriever> Any suggestions?
#63 [00:53] <darcknes> jave 6 and update 30 right
#64 [00:54] <Schriever> I think so
#65 [00:54] <xales> darcknes: yes
#66 [00:54] <xales> Schriever: What operating system are you using?
#67 [00:55] <Schriever> Mac Snow Leopard
#68 [00:56] <xales> Schriever: One sec, I know that's a fairly common error, but I don't remember what the fix is; Scott should be around, he is the Mac expert.
#69 [00:56] <xales> Scott: hi.
#70 [00:56] <Schriever> hello
#71 [00:58] <Scott> erm
#72 [00:58] <Scott> you're using antivirus on a mac?
#73 [00:59] <Schriever> Yes, the school provides macbooks to the students that dual boot mac and windows, and they put sophos on both sides.
#74 [00:59] <Scott> that sounds dumb
#75 [00:59] <Scott> anyways, is everything up to date?
#76 [00:59] <Schriever> Because it is :P
#77 [01:00] <Schriever> I think so, but I'm trying to make sure. I'm trying to figure out how to update java
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#79 [01:02] <Scott> apple menu > software update
#80 [01:02] <Schriever> Yeah, it just finished searching/scanning and says everything is up to date
#81 [01:05] <Schriever> so...any ideas?
#82 [01:05] <xales> Schriever: You are trying to run the full version of Minecraft, and from the downloaded .app, correct?
#83 [01:06] <Schriever> Yes. I have also tried re-downloading minecraft, but when I opened it, it didn't even completely install before giving the same message, so I restored the old app
#84 [01:09] <Schriever> Should I try deleting my .minecraft file?
#85 [01:13] <Schriever> I think that's probably the one thing I haven't tried so far, b/c I didn't want to lose my saves
#86 [01:15] <xales> you can delete it without losing saves
#87 [01:15] <Schriever> you can?
#88 [01:15] <xales> and by that, I mean, delete everything inside it except the folders called 'saves' and 'stats'
#89 [01:18] <Schriever> still a fatal error. If this occurs so often, why hasn't it been fixed? Or are there so many causes that it would be pointless anyway?
#90 [01:19] <xales> well, usually it's something fairly obvious, like a file got corrupted by the OS
#91 [01:19] <xales> (which isn't somethiing they can fix)
#92 [01:20] <xales> first, try playing it in your browser
#93 [01:20] <xales> then, if that doesn't work, and your computer dual-boots with Windows, I'd suggest copying the saves and stats over and see if it runs under Windows
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#96 [01:22] <schr1ever> sorry, I missed the last message because my browser crashed
#97 [01:23] <schr1ever> and then I had to pick a new nickname (and I notice that it says I'm still here under the old one)
#98 [01:25] <xales> 01:21:17 <@xales> first, try playing it in your browser
#99 [01:25] <xales> 01:21:41 <@xales> then, if that doesn't work, and your computer dual-boots with Windows, I'd suggest copying the saves and stats over and see if it runs under Windows
#100 [01:25] <schr1ever> Trying to play it in the browser it what made it crash. It had already done it a couple of times when I tried earlier, but I was foolish enough to think I could close the tab as soon as I noticed it was about to crash
#101 [01:26] <schr1ever> I'm running firefox 8.0 if that means anything
#102 [01:26] <schr1ever> I'll try windows tomorrow, it's getting late here. Thanks for the help!
#103 [01:27] <xales> schr1ever: no problem, and if it doesn't work, you're welcome to come back and see if anyone else has any ideas
#104 [01:27] <xales> (normally more people are around than just me)
#105 [01:27] <schr1ever> Awesome, will do. Bye
#106 [01:27] <xales> o/
#107 [01:28] <tiwake> GreyVulpine: you know what it could be... it could be the client is just reporting actual ping time times 2
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#110 [01:53] <chazor> hey guys can any one point me to were i need to go to get a craftbucket server setup?
#111 [01:55] <xales> chazor: Try asking in #bukkit
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#113 [01:56] <keret> hello ummm my minecraft every time i die i get a blck screen on thiss server and i have to go on another cpu and log in just to play on my computer can u help me?
#114 [01:57] <xales> If it is a problem with only that server, contact whomever runs that server.
#115 [01:57] <keret> no it is not ive tried it already
#116 [01:58] <keret> ive tried 3 differnt servers and they just seem to all get a black screen when i die and i cant log back in plz help
#117 [01:58] <xales> ??> keret forceupdate
#118 [01:58] <VoxelHead> keret: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#119 [01:58] <VoxelHead> keret: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#120 [01:59] <keret> ok ill try it again
#121 [02:00] <keret> yes thank u guys so much it worked! ive done it before but it didnt work but now it did it might have be the mod i had thank u
#122 [02:01] <keret> by!
#123 [02:02] <xales> *sigh*
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#125 [02:13] <mib_dmqn6a> i purchased minecraft on one computer but it says i have not on another computer
#126 [02:14] <xales> What, exactly, does it say?
#127 [02:14] <xales> Are you trying to log in to the same account?
#128 [02:14] <mib_dmqn6a> yes
#129 [02:15] <mib_dmqn6a> it also says "user not premium"
#130 [02:16] <xales> Then the account you are logging into is not marked premium.
#131 [02:16] <mib_dmqn6a> how do i make it a premium account
#132 [02:17] <xales> You buy the game for that account.
#133 [02:17] <mib_dmqn6a> i already did
#134 [02:17] <xales> Obviously not, or it wouldn't say "user not premium".
#135 [02:17] <mib_dmqn6a> i'll try repurchasing it
#136 [02:19] <xales> Or, if you actually have bought it, you could try using the account you bought it under
#137 [02:20] <mib_dmqn6a> i'm using the exact account i bought it under
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#139 [02:22] <Guest24295> hello, I'm getting an issue with the Java(TM) SE Binary has stopped working. it crashes the game and I'm getting frustrated.
#140 [02:22] <xales> Guest24295: Does it do this as soon as you launch Minecraft, or after playing for a while?
#141 [02:22] <Guest24295> after a few minutes
#142 [02:22] <xales> mib_dmqn6a: You either haven't bought it, have bought a gift code, or aren't using the correct account.
#143 [02:22] <xales> Guest24295: Try updating Java, from java.com
#144 [02:23] <Guest24295> odd. well I definitely bought it, and I only have one account... whats that link?
#145 [02:23] <xales> Guest24295: I was talking to someone else, sorry.
#146 [02:23] <xales> Guest24295: http://java.com/
#147 [02:24] <Guest24295> i already tried to unistall and reinstall java but it didn't do any good
#148 [02:24] <xales> Do you know what graphics card you have?
#149 [02:25] <Guest24295> found a year old thread with some suggestions but all failed. umm good question about the graphics card. I know it's pretty beastly. my pc can run pretty much all games no problem
#150 [02:25] <xales> ??> Guest24295 win/dxdiag
#151 [02:25] <VoxelHead> Guest24295: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#152 [02:25] <VoxelHead> Guest24295: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#153 [02:26] <Guest24295> cool I'll give it a try
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#155 [02:29] <Guest24295> http://pastebin.com/khSiu2h3
#156 [02:29] <Guest24295> that oughtta do it
#157 [02:32] <Guest24295> give it to me straight doc, what are we lookin at?
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#159 [02:42] <Ep1cD1M3> Thanks for earlier GreyVulpine. My minecraft seems to be working just fine now. OpenGL was on and I think thats what was screwing with me.
#160 [02:44] <xales> Guest24295: Sorry; are you still around?
#161 [02:46] <xales> :|
#162 [02:46] <Ep1cD1M3> That was nice.....
#163 [02:46] <Ep1cD1M3> That was nice.....
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#167 [03:18] <Hesam> hi
#168 [03:19] <Hesam> I have a question: We are trying to install the Buildcraft mod on our server, but we don't know how. We currently use Bukkit and aren't sure if it's possible. Has anyone insight into how to make this work?
#169 [03:21] <TheNoodle> ??> Hesam mods
#170 [03:21] <VoxelHead> Hesam: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#171 [03:21] <VoxelHead> Hesam: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#172 [03:21] <Hesam> thanks Voxelhead
#173 [03:22] <TheNoodle> :(
#174 [03:22] <TheNoodle> ?? bot
#175 [03:22] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#176 [03:23] <Hesam> Voxelhead: what's the full location for #bukkit? I can't find it
#177 [03:23] <Hesam> if you happen to know
#178 [03:23] <TheNoodle> 1) voxelhead is a bot, being triggered by me atm 2) type /join #bukkit
#179 [03:23] <Hesam> ah ok
#180 [03:23] <Hesam> thanks TheNoodle!
#181 [03:23] <Hesam> thanks TheNoodle!
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#183 [03:23] <Hesam> thanks TheNoodle!
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#191 [03:55] <mib_xhoiie> Hi. Whwn I try to start Minecraft it wouldn't run. Help?
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#193 [04:03] <dylanbarberdude> I need tech support. Anyone help me?
#194 [04:03] <lemon-rev> guys whats up
#195 [04:03] <lemon-rev> ?
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#198 [04:09] <stomper> Is
#199 [04:09] <stomper> Hey! It Works!
#200 [04:09] <dylanbarberdude> ...
#201 [04:09] <stomper> I have a problem running Minecraft.
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#203 [04:11] <stomper> My java says "org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated" at me when playing it.
#204 [04:11] <stomper> Can someone tell me why?
#205 [04:11] <stomper> Hello?
#206 [04:12] <stomper> Does anybody know why I get the problem?
#207 [04:13] <stomper> Hello?
#208 [04:13] <stomper> Anybody?
#209 [04:13] <stomper> If you don't know, I'm another guest trying to find some help.
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#217 [04:44] <Jogge> I already bought minecraft and got a code key by email. I am not able to download the game. Can anybody help me?
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#219 [04:48] <Jogge> Is there anybody?
#220 [04:48] <TheNoodle> Sec.
#221 [04:48] <TheNoodle> http://www.minecraft.net/user/redeem
#222 [04:52] <Jogge> What do I have to do with this link?
#223 [04:54] <TheNoodle> you said you got a 'code' I assumed you meant a gift code.
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#225 [04:55] <Jogge> yes - and where must the code be written in this link?
#226 [04:57] <Titan> Hi, I can't login into my accounf from another computer. Can anyone help please? I haven't been able to play the game at all yet because the laptop I registered on didn't have the right graphics card
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#228 [04:58] <TheNoodle> Jogge, create or log into your minecraft.net account
#229 [04:58] <TheNoodle> then enter the gift code in the form I gave you.
#230 [04:58] <TheNoodle> Titan, what problems are you having?
#231 [04:59] <Titan> I can't login - it just returns me to the home page.
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#233 [05:01] <TheNoodle> heh
#234 [05:01] <TheNoodle> Not much i can do there.
#235 [05:02] <Titan> No worries, I'll try to email someone. Thanks Thenoodle
#236 [05:02] <Jogge> Must I write the code in the with field named "skin"?
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#238 [05:06] <TheNoodle> huh
#239 [05:06] <TheNoodle> Jogge, have you logged into minecraft.net?
#240 [05:07] <Jogge> yes
#241 [05:07] <TheNoodle> okay, now go to http://www.minecraft.net/user/redeem
#242 [05:07] <TheNoodle> and it should ask you to enter your giftcode.
#243 [05:07] <Jogge> Ok i am still there
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#245 [05:09] <Jogge> but they said: "You currently haven't bought any gift codes, click here to buy one. "
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#259 [05:48] <mib_6ckih5> help plz
#260 [05:48] <mib_6ckih5> anyone?
#261 [05:49] <mib_6ckih5> I HAVE NO OFFLINE
#262 [05:50] <Grim_Reaper> o-o
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#265 [06:00] <blinky> why are my world not avaible on another pc? I have a world on a pc now i have installed the program on another pc and it cant find my already saved world
#266 [06:00] <TheNoodle> You need to copy your saves over.
#267 [06:00] <blinky> how
#268 [06:00] <blinky> ?
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#270 [06:03] <frogmella> hi iv had a problem loging in to minecraft all i get is a gray screen with try ag.. or play offline for a few mothes and found out it was my antivirus so iv just got a new one (pc tools) but it is still blocking me from loging in can any one help
#271 [06:05] <blinky> how can i "copy my saves over"?
#272 [06:06] <frogmella> look in your .minecraft folder theres a save folder
#273 [06:07] <blinky> what is a minecraft folder
#274 [06:07] <w> a source of magic and wonder. Start -> Run, then type %APPDATA% and click on .minecraft
#275 [06:09] <blinky> where should i do thet?
#276 [06:10] <frogmella> if u have vister or 7 you just do the app bit in the search bar
#277 [06:11] <frogmella> vista*
#278 [06:12] <blinky> ok ty
#279 [06:14] <frogmella> dose any know if there a setting in my antivirus i need to change to allow me to login to minecarft with out tuneing it off ?
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#283 [06:29] <Kiai> I used MCEdit to move the spawn point of a server to the inside of a greater building to provide a better start for new players joining it. Unfortunately we keep spawning on the highest possible point above that spawnpoint and not right there. Why is that the case?
#284 [06:29] <TheNoodle> The default spawning code for minecraft servers is dodgy.
#285 [06:29] <TheNoodle> You're better off using craftbukkit as a wrapper then a plugin like Essentials for exact spawning.
#286 [06:32] <Kiai> Fine. Thank you anyway.
#287 [06:32] <Kiai> Fine. Thank you anyway.
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#292 [06:50] <mib_sy8kse> hi was wanting to know why i cant get this game downloaded purchased it about 4 days ago and having real trouble with it
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#298 [07:18] <mib_shvsxx> hello
#299 [07:19] <mib_shvsxx> i need help
#300 [07:19] <mib_shvsxx> "/nice username"
#301 [07:20] <mib_shvsxx> "/nick username"
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#303 [07:26] <Serone> i have a question
#304 [07:26] <Serone> is there any danger to give my skype to a person i have never met in real life
#305 [07:28] <TheNoodle> ehh
#306 [07:28] <TheNoodle> kinda...?
#307 [07:28] <TheNoodle> depends on a few things
#308 [07:29] <TheNoodle> Have you entered any personal info into skype? or linked it to facebook?
#309 [07:29] <Serone> no
#310 [07:29] <Serone> its a new email maked specyaly only for skype
#311 [07:30] <TheNoodle> then apart from getting your ip they can't really do much.
#312 [07:31] <TheNoodle> And if you were talking to them on irc they have that anyway.
#313 [07:31] <Serone> so its not very much danger
#314 [07:31] <TheNoodle> Not really no.
#315 [07:32] <Serone> and he isnt the tipe of that person
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#334 [10:07] <synpact> okay hey i used to have minecraft before at 1.8 beta and now 1.0 actual game it used to work perfectly i have wiped my computer since then now i have tryed to get minecraft back and i try to log on it comes up can't connect to minecraft.net ive searched the forums non of what i have found works ive reinstalled java twice ive tryed playing from the browser but
#335 [10:08] <synpact> it doesnt update it gets to done loading
#336 [10:08] <thomas001> Hi, i have a projector connected as second display device to my pc. even when i move the minecraft window to this screen, and then press f11 for full screen, the full screen mode will be enabled on the monitor screen and not the projector screen...the projector screen still shows the windowed minecraft, but with black window contents. how to get fullscreen on the projector's screen? thanks
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#338 [10:13] <AureliusM> synpact: check firewall and antivirus in case they are blocking access to minecraft.net
#339 [10:13] <synpact> kk i have checked them already but it never hurts to try again
#340 [10:15] <AureliusM> synpact: my checklist would be: fresh download of minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/download into new folder on PC; uninstall all java and double check all Java gone, reinstall Java 6
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#343 [10:19] <AureliusM> synpact: check HOSTS file contains no mention of minecraft; try delete all folders under %APPDATA%/.minecraft except the saves folder and retry minecraft
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#345 [10:20] <AureliusM> thomas001: I have no experience with second displays, but I would check the display driver control panel
#346 [10:21] <synpact> i disabled the firewall and antivirus then tryed it nothing so far ill try the fresh download things
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#348 [10:22] <AureliusM> synpact: Windows? I know Windows Vista and 7 have awkward security and access permissions (to me anyway)
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#350 [10:22] <synpact> 7
#351 [10:23] <mib_ur4mgb> how do I redownload and run minecraft?
#352 [10:24] <AureliusM> synpact: I have Vista which I run as administrator; there is also the java policies files that *might* be wrong, but can you get the full error log from hs_err_pid file or from a Java console?
#353 [10:24] <synpact> brb a min need to close browser to get rid of java to redownload
#354 [10:24] <synpact> ill check that console first
#355 [10:25] <AureliusM> mib_ur4mgb: try options force update first, if that does not work go into %APPDATA%/.minecraft and delete all except the saves folder and download minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/downloads
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#358 [10:26] <minecraft_guest02597> Hello
#359 [10:26] <AureliusM> synpact: right, have you tried both in browser and from stand-alone minecraft.exe ? Try different browser?
#360 [10:27] <minecraft_guest02597> hi
#361 [10:27] <minecraft_guest02597> is aneone here ?
#362 [10:27] <minecraft_guest02597> *anyone
#363 [10:28] <thomas001> AureliusM, i will have a look, thank you
#364 [10:28] <thomas001> AureliusM, i will have a look, thank you
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#368 [10:31] <ineedhelp> hi my minecraft servers wont work it just exits out of minecraft plz help
#369 [10:31] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: any error message ? Look for hs_err_pid file from where you launcher minecraft
#370 [10:32] <ineedhelp> no thats not it
#371 [10:32] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: sorry, missed that you wrote server
#372 [10:32] <ineedhelp> nope even if i shut down my computer
#373 [10:32] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: Using minecraft_server.jar version 1.0.1 ? No mods?
#374 [10:32] <ineedhelp> nope none
#375 [10:33] <ineedhelp> and yees
#376 [10:33] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: Does minecraft client work?
#377 [10:33] <ineedhelp> yes
#378 [10:33] <ineedhelp> and sigelpalyer
#379 [10:33] <ineedhelp> singleplayer*
#380 [10:33] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: what batch file used for server?
#381 [10:33] <ineedhelp> but not servers
#382 [10:33] <ineedhelp> idk
#383 [10:33] <ineedhelp> im 8
#384 [10:34] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: I use a batch with this line: java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#385 [10:34] <ineedhelp> i do to i think
#386 [10:34] <ineedhelp> even my friends account wont work on my computer
#387 [10:35] <ineedhelp> and i just got a new cilent
#388 [10:35] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: ? Do you mean you cannot connect to servers via the multiplayer button in the client? Please be specific.
#389 [10:35] <ineedhelp> yes but i cant im 8
#390 [10:36] <ineedhelp> idk every thing
#391 [10:36] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: describe what you do in single steps.
#392 [10:36] <ineedhelp> ok i log onto minecraft
#393 [10:36] <ineedhelp> press muiltiplayer
#394 [10:36] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: how? From here?
#395 [10:36] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: how? From where?
#396 [10:37] <synpact> okay i tryed launching the browzer version after i installed google chrome i got the same thing gets to done loading and just stops
#397 [10:37] <ineedhelp> desktop
#398 [10:37] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: Is the icon you launch named minecraft.exe ?
#399 [10:37] <ineedhelp> ilet me check brb
#400 [10:37] <synpact> and when i right click the java thing to go to console i get Java Plug-in 1.6.0_30 Using JRE version 1.6.0_30-b12 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM User home directory = C:\Users\Nick! ---------------------------------------------------- c: clear console window f: finalize objects on finalization queue g: garbage collect h: display this help message l: dum
#401 [10:38] <AureliusM> synpact: if you've tried the minecraft.jar version with the same results I'll link you to the last resort launcher they use here
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#403 [10:38] <AureliusM> synpact: wait, use pastebin to paste all that text
#404 [10:38] <AureliusM> ??> synpact pastebin
#405 [10:38] <VoxelHead> synpact: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#406 [10:39] <ineedhelp> i do use exe aure
#407 [10:40] <ineedhelp> but it dosent say minecraft.exe because exe is to big on the bottom of the icon
#408 [10:40] <synpact> http://pastebin.com/p7awbwp6 i just copyed everything i seen
#409 [10:40] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: Ok, right mouse click over that minecraft.exe, click on properties and check the size is 264 megabytes, or exact size 270142 bytes
#410 [10:41] <AureliusM> synpact: looking at it now
#411 [10:41] <ineedhelp> no my minecraft proprites is gone
#412 [10:41] <ineedhelp> and thats bad
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#414 [10:42] <AureliusM> synpact: not seen that one before, but some standard questions: does your Windows name have a "!" in it?
#415 [10:42] <ineedhelp> aure u gonna help me?
#416 [10:43] <synpact> yep my friend done my computer and named it Nick!
#417 [10:43] <murry1> are Mojang ever going to fix the door glitch it is really affecting my house
#418 [10:43] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: Do you know from where you downloaded the minecraft.exe?
#419 [10:43] <ineedhelp> ok i gtg soon help me
#420 [10:43] <ineedhelp> plz
#421 [10:43] <AureliusM> synpact: ! are a problem, there's a workaround if you cannot change your Windows username to remove it
#422 [10:43] <ineedhelp> HELP
#423 [10:44] <synpact> okay ill rename it give me a sec
#424 [10:44] <murry1> are Mojang ever going to fix the door glitch it is really affecting my house
#425 [10:44] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: You will need more time to solve problems, come back when you have more time
#426 [10:44] <ineedhelp> OK I HAVE MORE TIME
#427 [10:44] <ineedhelp> sorry caps
#428 [10:45] <murry1> are Mojang ever going to fix the door glitch it is really affecting my house
#429 [10:45] <AureliusM> murry1: no idea, you could look at the snapshots to see what they are doing, or the Known bugs page at the minecraftwiki
#430 [10:45] <ineedhelp> help
#431 [10:45] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: do you have Java 6 ?
#432 [10:46] <murry1> when i go to the known bugs it says this page is closed and will be back after we get a new name for it
#433 [10:46] <ineedhelp> yes
#434 [10:46] <AureliusM> murry1: oh yes,, try instead: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/Version_1.0.0
#435 [10:47] <synpact> okay ive renamed need to restart my computer to get it active ill be back in a second
#436 [10:47] <murry1> thanks
#437 [10:47] <AureliusM> murry1: and some discussion at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/Version_12w01a , but maybe you need to follow twitter to see what they are planning, I don't.
#438 [10:48] <ineedhelp> plz help
#439 [10:48] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: click Start / Control Panel / Java and then click the About button and tell me which Java version
#440 [10:49] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: then click the Java tab on the same Java Control Panel and click View and check there is only one and that it is 1.6
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#442 [10:50] <ineedhelp> i have newest version
#443 [10:50] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: is it 1.6 ? product 1.6.0_30 ?
#444 [10:51] <ineedhelp> 1.6 i think i just got it
#445 [10:52] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: What does the Java control panel actually say? Use control C to copy the whole line shown under Java Runtime Environment settings.
#446 [10:52] <ineedhelp> idk were that is
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#449 [10:53] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: The Java control panel should still be open on your screen
#450 [10:53] <ineedhelp> no i didnt open it
#451 [10:53] <wo0p> I need help asap, I get an error when I launch minecraft client. PM please!
#452 [10:53] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: click Start / Control Panel / Java and then click the Java tab
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#454 [10:54] <AureliusM> wo0p: we don't do PM here, what error message are you getting?
#455 [10:54] <synpact> okay i done the rename and nothing from the minecraft.exe still the same im going to try from my web browser now
#456 [10:54] <ineedhelp> i cant find java
#457 [10:55] <ineedhelp> i found it
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#459 [10:55] <synpact> argh samething on the web browser aswell gets to doneloading and stops
#460 [10:55] <wo0p> AureliusM: Connection Lost
#461 [10:55] <wo0p> Internal client error: java.net.SocketException: Adress family not supported by protocol family; connect
#462 [10:55] <AureliusM> synpact: Are you sure this is a clean unmodded minecraft client?
#463 [10:56] <ineedhelp> help
#464 [10:56] <synpact> i have never had minecraft installed since ive wiped my computer
#465 [10:56] <AureliusM> wo0p: Ok, first check you have uninstalled all Java on your machine then install Java 6 from sun.com
#466 [10:56] <ineedhelp> who me?
#467 [10:57] <wo0p> thanks
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#469 [10:57] <mib_9gqmpn> when I load minecraft 1.0.0 on my computer it looks almost like it is in 3D...like there is one image on the right and one on the left
#470 [10:57] <ineedhelp> ok now i need help
#471 [10:57] <AureliusM> synpact: Oh, so this is a fresh minecraft.exe and it gives cannot connect to minecraft.net? I'll look for that special launcher now...
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#473 [10:58] <ineedhelp> help
#474 [10:58] <synpact> yes damn i feel dumb for not mentioning like the most basic part >.<
#475 [10:58] <wo0p> AureliusM: can you send download link? :p do not find it
#476 [10:58] <ineedhelp> help plz
#477 [10:58] <jhalse> Hi, need help with black screen/Java issue in Minecraft Premium. I get a black screen immediately after I hit 'login', regardless if I play in browser or if I play the downloaded .exe. I have everything updated (ATI display driver, Java, Windows) and a clean Minecraft installation without mods or anything.
#478 [10:59] <jhalse> It seems to be a Java-related issue: in the task manager I see the process "java.exe" (when playing in browser) and "javaw.exe" (when playing downloaded .exe) suddenly eat up 99% of the CPU when the screen goes black - and stay that way until I kill the process manually? Thx
#479 [10:59] <ineedhelp> jhalse shut down computer
#480 [10:59] <SetoSeyerd> anyone know anything about how the seasons function? I worked on a good amount of things in a part of the map and now it is covered in snow (and ice). Do the seasons change or am I stuck with cold now?
#481 [11:00] <ineedhelp> I NEED HELP
#482 [11:00] <ineedhelp> PLZ
#483 [11:00] <jhalse> restarting computer doesn't help - has had the problem for more than 2 weeks when I first purchased premium.
#484 [11:00] <Boreeas> ineedhelp: Hi
#485 [11:00] <mib_9gqmpn> seasons? well my version divides the map innto different seasons
#486 [11:00] <Boreeas> ineedhelp: What is your problem?
#487 [11:00] <SetoSeyerd> mine did too, but it seems to have moved
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#489 [11:00] <ineedhelp> hi i need help but aure was helping me
#490 [11:01] <AureliusM> Wait, I can't find the special launcher now.
#491 [11:01] <mib_9gqmpn> im not sure
#492 [11:01] <ineedhelp> aure help me
#493 [11:01] <mib_9gqmpn> when I load minecraft 1.0.0 on my computer it looks almost like it is in 3D...like there is one image on the right and one on the left
#494 [11:01] <SetoSeyerd> the only problem are the water features, they are all ice now
#495 [11:01] <ineedhelp> go on options tur 3d off
#496 [11:01] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: did you open the java control panel?
#497 [11:02] <ineedhelp> yes
#498 [11:02] <mib_9gqmpn> thank you
#499 [11:02] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: if yes, click on Java tab and click on the View button
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#501 [11:03] <ineedhelp> now what
#502 [11:03] <synpact> ill play wow untill you find it :P ill be around
#503 [11:03] <AureliusM> wo0p: I can't fin dthe special launcher link. The standard exe is at http://www.minecraft.net/download, and the minecraft.jar is on same page at the Show all platforms link
#504 [11:03] <ineedhelp> hellp
#505 [11:04] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: Under Java Runtime versiosn, what is the Product number?
#506 [11:04] <AureliusM> ??> ineedhelp patience
#507 [11:04] <VoxelHead> ineedhelp: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#508 [11:04] <VoxelHead> ineedhelp: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#509 [11:05] <SetoSeyerd> do the seasons change in this game? or can I change them?
#510 [11:05] <ineedhelp> 1.6.0-ome
#511 [11:05] <AureliusM> synpact: Sorry, I'm a bit overloaded here, you've tried a fresh exe and same error, can you try the jar version ? see the instructions VoxelHead gave wo0p
#512 [11:06] <ineedhelp> u can change them with single player commands
#513 [11:07] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: Ok, what is under the Location field? Mouse click on the line and press control C and then click in this IRC channel and click control-V to paste it here
#514 [11:07] <SetoSeyerd> i see how to shut the rain off, but nothing about changing from winter
#515 [11:07] <ineedhelp> 1.6 1.6.0-oem http://java.sun.com/products/autodl/j2se c:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0\bin\javaw.exe true
#516 [11:07] <ineedhelp> thats all of it
#517 [11:08] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: ok, I've not sen oem befoire, but it's probably ok
#518 [11:08] <ineedhelp> wait i have another
#519 [11:08] <ineedhelp> 1.6 1.6.0_29 http://java.sun.com/products/autodl/j2se C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe true
#520 [11:09] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: Your problem was that clicking multiplayer in minecraft caused it to exit, is that right?
#521 [11:09] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: wait, theer are more than one Java product listed ?
#522 [11:09] <ineedhelp> no on a server i would get one but for a sec the exit and yes
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#524 [11:10] <synpact> yeah np i can see dont know how you are keeping up :P but nope that jar version gave me the same thing and yeah im patient :P i think if we dont get it fixed ill see if i can steal my friends version hopefully that works
#525 [11:10] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: You need to uninstall ALL java products first. Do this in Control Panel, add and remove programs I think on XP, or Programs and functions in Vista
#526 [11:11] <ineedhelp> ok then what
#527 [11:11] <AureliusM> synpact: teh jar version you run from a batch file, if you put "pause" at the end it should show the error in a black command window
#528 [11:11] <ineedhelp> how uninstal it
#529 [11:12] <ineedhelp> and how get another
#530 [11:13] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: Click Start Control Panel, look for add and remove programs or Programs and functions
#531 [11:14] <ineedhelp> i cant remove or drag them to deleat it
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#533 [11:15] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: Are you in the control panel which lists many programs? You scroll down to find lines beginning with java, then mpuse click over and select uninstall, or remove
#534 [11:15] <Sadface> Can someone help me my minecraft has stopped working after i tried to install Mo Creatures
#535 [11:15] <ineedhelp> ok let me try that
#536 [11:15] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: -> mouse right click over <-
#537 [11:15] <ineedhelp> ik what u mean i cant instal mo creatures
#538 [11:16] <Sadface> yeah can someone help me?
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#540 [11:16] <mib_fkf4v2> hello
#541 [11:16] <Sadface> when i try to go on it it freezes at the Mojang screen then closes its self
#542 [11:16] <Sadface> hi
#543 [11:16] <mib_fkf4v2> awww
#544 [11:17] <mib_fkf4v2> mine works but when it starts the game it crashes
#545 [11:17] <synpact> okay so how do i get to edit this bat file then i tend not to get this deep into things
#546 [11:17] <mib_fkf4v2> thats what im wondering :P
#547 [11:18] <mib_fkf4v2> hello?
#548 [11:18] <ineedhelp> done i deleated it
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#550 [11:19] <mib_q029cy> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
#551 [11:19] <ineedhelp> help Aure
#552 [11:19] <mib_q029cy> please help
#553 [11:20] <AureliusM> synpact: I still cannot find this special minecraft launcher they regulars use , I would wait for help from one of the regulars with bold names.
#554 [11:20] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: are all Java programs uninstalled now?
#555 [11:20] <synpact> allright ill keep checking back so often
#556 [11:21] <ineedhelp> o no ALL i have one more then
#557 [11:21] <mib_q029cy> when i try to log on it pops up with a document saying falt
#558 [11:21] <ineedhelp> shut down computer
#559 [11:22] <AureliusM> synpact: I'll post a link to GreyVulpine's instructions for a batch file
#560 [11:22] <ineedhelp> done deleated last one
#561 [11:22] <Sadface> Okay can someone help me now my minecraft freezes when i try to run it thi has only started after i tried to install mo creatures
#562 [11:22] <ineedhelp> deleat the file
#563 [11:22] <ineedhelp> and shut down it might help
#564 [11:22] <Sadface> ok
#565 [11:23] <Sadface> delete what file??
#566 [11:23] <ineedhelp> mo creatures
#567 [11:23] <ineedhelp> and get it again
#568 [11:23] <ineedhelp> Aure done did it
#569 [11:23] <Sadface> i dont want it anymore :( i just want minecraft back!!! :(
#570 [11:24] <ineedhelp> ok delet it
#571 [11:24] <ineedhelp> and shut down minecraft
#572 [11:24] <AureliusM> synpact: http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2 <--
#573 [11:24] <ineedhelp> Aure help
#574 [11:24] <ineedhelp> i did it
#575 [11:24] <AureliusM> sadface: do force update
#576 [11:25] <synpact> kk thanks
#577 [11:25] <ineedhelp> sad face also shutdown and delet mo creatures
#578 [11:25] <ineedhelp> help Aure
#579 [11:25] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: Triple check, by click Start click Control Panel and look for the Java icon
#580 [11:25] <ineedhelp> done
#581 [11:26] <ineedhelp> i didnt see one
#582 [11:26] <AureliusM> ??> sadface forceupdate
#583 [11:26] <VoxelHead> sadface: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#584 [11:26] <VoxelHead> sadface: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#585 [11:26] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: Good. Now install Java 6, wait for VoxelHead's instructions
#586 [11:26] <AureliusM> ??> ineedhelp getjava
#587 [11:26] <VoxelHead> ineedhelp: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#588 [11:27] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: make sure you get 32 bit Java for a 32 bit windows OS, or 64 bit Java for a 64 bit OS
#589 [11:27] <ineedhelp> i did
#590 [11:28] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: You have downloaded the Java 6 already? from that java.com link?
#591 [11:28] <ineedhelp> yes
#592 [11:28] <ineedhelp> i have fast computer
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#595 [11:29] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: Did you install it already? If yes, check using Click Start Control Panel and click teh Java icon
#596 [11:29] <ineedhelp> yes
#597 [11:29] <ineedhelp> ok
#598 [11:29] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: Ok, and the minecraft.exe was freshly downloaded from minecraft.net/download to your Desktop? Try double click it.
#599 [11:30] <ineedhelp> no wait
#600 [11:30] <ineedhelp> i cant see java in file though
#601 [11:30] <ineedhelp> i just got it
#602 [11:31] <jhalse> anybody has time to help with my javaproblem described above? thx
#603 [11:31] <ineedhelp> no it needs runtime
#604 [11:31] <ineedhelp> if i press it
#605 [11:32] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: please be more specific and write all your thoughts on one line
#606 [11:32] <ineedhelp> ok im good ty for helping me
#607 [11:32] <AureliusM> jhalse: I'm looking at it now
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#610 [11:34] <jhalse> great to hear Aurelius. Sometimes the error shows as blue screen and a complete restart of pc instead of the usual Java hang.
#611 [11:34] <AureliusM> jhalse: These black screen issues are hard to track down, can you do a dxdiag so we can check the driver details?
#612 [11:34] <AureliusM> ??> jhalse win/dxdiag
#613 [11:34] <VoxelHead> jhalse: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#614 [11:34] <VoxelHead> jhalse: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#615 [11:35] <ineedhelp> aure it still wont work
#616 [11:35] <bellows> When you purchace Minecraft do you have to make a payment every month or is it just one payment for the whole thing?
#617 [11:35] <AureliusM> jhalse: Also which computer and which OS, sometimes there's a known issue with these
#618 [11:35] <ineedhelp> whole thing
#619 [11:36] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: can yo copy the whole error into a pastebin and post the link here?
#620 [11:36] <AureliusM> ??> ineedhelp pastebin
#621 [11:36] <VoxelHead> ineedhelp: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#622 [11:36] <bellows> Ok Thank you for Your help
#623 [11:36] <jhalse> Computer is kind of old...: Intel Pentium 1,5Ghz, 1GB ram, running Windows XP pro.
#624 [11:36] <AureliusM> bellows: ? I haven't helped you yet. But no you only buy minecraft account once.
#625 [11:37] <ineedhelp> IT WORKS
#626 [11:37] <ineedhelp> yeah
#627 [11:37] <AureliusM> bellows: sorry, I missed ineedhelp helped you !
#628 [11:38] * AureliusM wonders if it was just the Java reinstall that fixed ineedhelp's problem ?
#628 [11:39] <jhalse> pastebin.com/u1F5fXHU
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#630 [11:41] <AureliusM> jhalse: Thanks, dxdiag reported "Driver Date/Size: 1/20/2004" which os pretty out of date, I'm looking if there are updates
#631 [11:41] <jhalse> only by 8 years... :-)
#632 [11:42] <AureliusM> jhalse: Have you checked HP's site for drivers ? I am checking AMD now.
#633 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> the 9000 series have a known issue with minecraft, you'd be very very lucky to get minecraft working on that.
#634 [11:43] <jhalse> yeah I downloaded this one 2 weeks ago from compaq/HP, and as far as I could tell it WAS the latest ATI driver.
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#636 [11:44] <thenedman> how do i fix lagging
#637 [11:44] <jhalse> GreyVulpine, What is the 9000 series?
#638 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> The ATI 9000 series, which includes your 9200
#639 [11:44] <synpact> what do i do with this bat thing i cant copy it
#640 [11:45] <AureliusM> jhalse: Ah, GreyVulpine can help better here. (I am working through http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDSupportHub.aspx - but could you try their driver autodetect in the meantime?)
#641 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, there's not much we can do about the 9200, you can try updating the card's drivers from:
#642 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=332800&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=332798&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=228
#643 [11:46] <jhalse> GreyVulpine, Of course, now I see it Mobility Radeon 9200. Just for your info, Minecraft classic used to work on that pc - only after updating to premium it stopped.
#644 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> Yes. Minecraft classic and minecraft premium are two entirely different games, if you look at the backend
#645 [11:47] <AureliusM> GreyVulpine, thanks for helping out here, I could not find the "special" launcher for users which get hangs and no error messages
#646 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> The graphics engine for premium is vastly improved, requiring much more computational power
#647 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> For windows? http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#648 [11:48] <AureliusM> GreyVulpine, no, the on ewith illegal in the path
#649 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> Oh bleh, um. That would be on the bot that isn't here right now
#650 [11:49] <AureliusM> GreyVulpine, from a ftp server; the problem is several have had freezes that I could not resolve even after the usual java, batch, reinstall, driver check, etc.
#651 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> grepping logs, one moment
#652 [11:50] <AureliusM> jhalse: I tracked down what I think is your GPU, but AMD pass the buck to HP here: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/737-28041SupportforATIMobility.aspx
#653 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> AureliusM - For synpact, most common causes for "Can't connect to minecraft.net" are, ! in windows username, invalid system date and time, Having java 7 instead of 6 installed, pirating minecraft, or having a firewall block minecraft
#654 [11:52] <Morrolan> pirating Minecraft == modified hosts file.
#655 [11:53] * GreyVulpine nods
#655 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> Also, the URL for the illegal launcher, is at: http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#656 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> But it appears Wug's machine that hosts it, is down
#657 [11:53] <Morrolan> The what?
#658 [11:54] * Morrolan reads up
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#659 [11:54] <synpact> yeah probly the ! then
#660 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> synpact - Does your windows username happen to have a ! mark at the end?
#661 [11:54] <AureliusM> GreyVulpine, Ah yes, I forgot to check most of those! I should first get a dxdiag to get details first
#662 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> dxdiag wouldn't actually reveal any of them
#663 [11:55] <jhalse> Aurelius, "AMD driver autodetect" didn't do too well, after download and run, it only said "we were unable to find your product or OS". So AMD's passing the buck to HP seems like a dead end to me - already have their latest 12 year old ATI driver.
#664 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> If they're running windows, have them go to %userprofile%, that'll take them to their home directory, will show if they have a ! in their windows folder path
#665 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> If they don't, have them go to https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#666 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> That'll tell you if their computer can access the login server from the browser, if they can't, it usually points to a modified hosts file.
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#668 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> Do a /ctcp person time to get their system's time.
#669 [11:56] <jhalse> GreyVulpine, you suggest that my graphics card is simply too old/weak? Any other things I could do, but try to get my hands on a newer pc...?
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#671 [11:57] <mib_9tzz7y> I Need Help Installing Minecraft . It Says Bad Video Card . Do I Have To Install Java For It To Work
#672 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> jhalse - Honestly, I've seen dozens of people pass through here with 9200s/9200 SEs and such. We've tried updating multiple drivers for them, with no luck. It just seems the video card is too old for minecraft to run on.
#673 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> jhalse - Best bet is to get another computer
#674 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_9tzz7y - Do you know how to update your video card's drivers?
#675 [11:58] <mib_9tzz7y> Yeah
#676 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> How?
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#678 [11:58] * AureliusM is adding GreyVulpine0s words of wisdom to his checklist
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#679 [11:59] <mib_9tzz7y> Go To Your Computer Manufacturer Website , Go To Support And Drivers And Search Your Computer Model
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#682 [11:59] <synpact> yeah it does i dont know how to change it i thought i changed it but most of the files show the ! at the end of the folder
#683 [11:59] <jhalse> damn thats a bummer for me. But thanks a lot for the help guys, always a thrill to get help from skilled people. ROCK ON!
#684 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> synpact - Unfortunately, you can't change the username, but you can use our workaround
#685 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/!
#686 [11:59] <VoxelHead> win/!: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#687 [11:59] <VoxelHead> win/!: Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
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#689 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> synpact - Your other recourse, is to make an entirely new windows account, one that doesn't have a ! symbol in it
#690 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_9tzz7y - That sounds right. Please update your video drivers from your computer manufacturer's website
#691 [12:02] <mib_9tzz7y> Thanks
#692 [12:03] <synpact> omg omg its on the download thing!
#693 [12:03] <synpact> thank you soo much you guys are amazing!
#694 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> Glad we could help.
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#696 [12:08] <smerft> when i try to install modloader with mcpatcher there is an error that says something about bad number exception or something
#697 [12:09] <smerft> hello?
#698 [12:10] <synpact> once again thanks guys cya :D
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#701 [12:11] <Simba_eax> xx\
#702 [12:11] <AureliusM> ??> smerft mods
#703 [12:11] <VoxelHead> smerft: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#704 [12:11] <Simba_eax> 78.60.163.174
#705 [12:11] <VoxelHead> smerft: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#706 [12:12] <Simba_eax> Mine Craft server IP: 78.60.163.174
#707 [12:12] <AureliusM> smerft: do a force update to get a clean minecraft and then retry would be my advice
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#709 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> Simba_eax - Please don't advertise here, use #smp instead
#710 [12:13] * AureliusM wishes they would wait for more than a minute
#710 [12:13] <mib_2585jh> Hi, i purchased the game minecraft recently over a pc running under ubuntu. I want to install i on the pc of my son, which has no internet connection. How to proceed now? Thanks Alex
#711 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_2585jh - Do you have a USB stick, or some way to transfer files over to your son's computer?
#712 [12:14] <mib_2585jh> Yes I have a USB Stick.
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#714 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Is your ubuntu machine the only one with an internet connection?
#715 [12:16] <mib_2585jh> Yes, because windows is not really save.
#716 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Could you download minecraft.jar from minecraft.net/download and run it with the example command line from there. This will download minecraft's files onto the ubuntu machine when you log in.
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#718 [12:17] <mib_2585jh> Yes I can do. But are these files no only suitable for Ubuntu/Linux ?
#719 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> What you're going to need to do, when minecraft downloads its files, is go to your home directory in ~/.minecraft/ and copy everything over to your USB drive. Also, download the minecraft.exe launcher from minecraft.net/download onto that USB stick. You'll then need to transfer that over to your son's Windows machine
#720 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_2585jh - No. Minecraft runs under java.
#721 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> When you transfer the .minecraft folder over to your son's machine, it'll need to be copied into %appdata%/.minecraft/
#722 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> That should be all you need to do.
#723 [12:19] <mib_2585jh> Great ! Thank you for your help. Will try it soon. Alex
#724 [12:20] <creep643> i got a error message when running minecraft after patching modloader it was this: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: bad version number in .class file
#725 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> We do not assist with modloader here. You'll want to post in the thread where you got modloader for help
#726 [12:21] <Thedatabeat> my minecraft launcher says faild to update news and java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect so i cant login any solution or explanation would be greatly appreciated
#727 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> Thedatabeat - I'm betting you have java 7 installed on your computer. Java 7's been known to cause this problem. Uninstall 7, reinstall 6 instead.
#728 [12:22] <Thedatabeat> ty gonna try thank makes sense i just installed java 7 and the problem began stupid me XD
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#730 [12:25] <whidgle> hi why wont my minecraft load
#731 [12:26] <whidgle> is anybody online?
#732 [12:26] <whidgle> voxelhead?
#733 [12:26] <whidgle> greyvulpine?
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#738 [12:47] <koleboy9> Hi there i just purchased the game minecraft and am trying to play but cant find any instruction and what keys do what ? and it is very slow moving i have java 32 bit
#739 [12:47] <Morrolan> Use a,s,d,f to move, left mouse button (keep it pressed) to break blocks, right mouse button to place blocks.
#740 [12:48] <Morrolan> e opens your inventory, esc opens the menu.
#741 [12:48] <AureliusM> koleboy9: w a s d keys are the movement keys, f is the fog change key on mine
#742 [12:48] <Morrolan> As for it being slow, decrease the render distance / fog distance in the video settings.
#743 [12:48] <Morrolan> wasd, not asdf, sorry.
#744 [12:48] <mib_2585jh> Hi I am back. Tried to run Minecraft under Ubuntu, but there is an error when running the "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#745 [12:48] <Morrolan> And that error would be? ;)
#746 [12:49] <AureliusM> koleboy9: For a guide see http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
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#748 [12:50] <mib_2585jh> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame.........Could not find the main class: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame. Program will exit
#749 [12:50] <AureliusM> koleboy9: Minecraft will be slow on old machines, like mine. If yours is modern and still slow, check graphics card is set to advanced or "performance" for java
#750 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_2585jh - Usually java. Reinstall it
#751 [12:51] <koleboy9> thank you , also it says once purchased it can be played offline does that mean it was intsalled directly as a program in my computer?
#752 [12:52] <AureliusM> koleboy9: Sort of. Once logged in for the first time to download all the game files, you can copy the whole /.minecraft/ folder toother machines
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#755 [12:52] <AureliusM> koleboy9: The game files will be in %APPDATA%/.minecraft, if Windows
#756 [12:53] <koleboy9> ok thanxs for the help :)
#757 [12:54] <AureliusM> koleboy9: Anytime, come back if you need more help.
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#759 [13:00] <sprog> scott or xales online?
#760 [13:00] <sprog> they were the ones helping me last night...
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#763 [13:04] <AureliusM> sprog: I have not seen them in the last few hours
#764 [13:05] <mib_3ft4e3> when loading minecraft I get logged in and then get hit with a frozen screen that says "done loading"! Any thoughts on how to solve???
#765 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> mib_3ft4e3 - Operating system? Has minecraft worked before?
#766 [13:06] <mib_3ft4e3> only the free version. Windows 7
#767 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> The 'free' version?
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#769 [13:07] <sprog> ok, maybe someone else can help me then. I'm getting the fatal error 4:null when I try to update minecraft. when I try to skip the update, it freezes at the end of the downloading bar. I have deleted my .bin file, my .minecraft file, completely re-installed the game, added minecraft to the exception list on my antivirus. In-browser, w/ firefox 8 it crashes
#770 [13:07] <sprog> the browser, and in ff 6, it freezes the tab.
#771 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Using Avira, by any chance?
#772 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> or AVG?
#773 [13:08] <sprog> I was initially trying to get it to work on my mac, which runs Snow Leopard, and when that didn't work, I went to the other side (laptop dual boots mac and win 7) and had all of the same issues
#774 [13:08] <sprog> Sophos, on both mac and windows
#775 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> sprog - A fatal error (4): null usually points to a security software blocking minecraft from downloading its files.
#776 [13:09] <sprog> Yeah, I know that having antivirus on mac is dumb, but the computers are provided by the school and they put it on there.
#777 [13:09] <mib_3ft4e3> oops, nothing is working now. I'm not sure I ever got the thing actually downloaded but whether i try to play online or via download I get the same frozen screen suggesting "done loading"?
#778 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_3ft4e3 - Does your windows username happen to contain a ! mark in it?
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#780 [13:10] <sprog> I added minecraft to the the exception list for sophos, and on windows I added it to the exception list on the built in firewall just to be sure it wasn't getting blocked. However, I'm not familiar with sophos, and even having had this computer for 2.5 years, I'm still not sure adding to the exception list even works.
#781 [13:11] <mib_3ft4e3> No ! mark in username, windows or otherwise. I just paid for the game and haven't been able to play because its just frozen, for hours.
#782 [13:11] <koleboy9> hi again somehow the spacebar was held down to long ( my son :)) and i find myself up in the clouds and cant get down ??
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#784 [13:11] <AureliusM> koleboy9: In Creative mode, use shift to move down
#785 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> sprog - I don't think I've had anybody with sophos come on here yet. Could you check sophos to see if it does any web detection stuff? If it does, try adding http://s3.amazonaws.com/* to the exception list
#786 [13:12] <AureliusM> koleboy9: hold down shift to move down hold down space to move up. Assuming no mods have been installed.
#787 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> mib_3ft4e3 - Are you absolutely sure about that, Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
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#789 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> mib_3ft4e3 - Please confirm for me, that the folder it takes you to, does not have any ! symbols in it
#790 [13:13] <koleboy9> perfect thanxs
#791 [13:13] <sprog> hm...hadn't thought of that. I'll try it and let you know. Thanks!
#792 [13:14] <mib_3ft4e3> done, no ! mark, there are 14 other files where it took me though?
#793 [13:14] <Navaroar159> on my account, on1 computer i have all my world, and on the same account, different computer i have no worlds. how can i fix this?
#794 [13:14] <AureliusM> koleboy9: I forgot, you can also double tap the space bar to switch flight off, but then you'll fall
#795 [13:14] <AureliusM> koleboy9: ... fall fast.
#796 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_3ft4e3 - When you went to %userprofile% -- you pressed enter, right?
#797 [13:15] <mib_3ft4e3> yes
#798 [13:15] <Navaroar159> on my account, on1 computer i have all my world, and on the same account, different computer i have no worlds. how can i fix this?
#799 [13:15] <AureliusM> Navaroar159: copy the /saves/ folder from one to the other, on a USB stick for example
#800 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Navaroar159 - Copy the worlds from the computer's profile over.
#801 [13:16] <Navaroar159> ok, ty.
#802 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_3ft4e3 - Alright. The other thing that can cause this, is Java 7. Could you check to see if you have java 7 installed?
#803 [13:16] <sprog> how do I go about adding it? It adds by programs or files from my computer, and that is a link to an xml file...is it saved to my computer somewhere?
#804 [13:16] <mib_3ft4e3> whats the best way to do that?
#805 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> sprog - In sophos? Check the control panel.
#806 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_3ft4e3 - Depends on what you have access to. Got internet connections on both computers? Try emailing the files to yourself. Got a USB stick? Copy the files onto it, and walk it over to the other computer.
#807 [13:17] <mib_3ft4e3> Java says the latest version is 6?
#808 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_3ft4e3 - Java 7 is out, but has been known to cause this problem. Java 6 is the recommended version to install.
#809 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_3ft4e3 - Could you check your windows control panel -> programs and features, and see if java 7 is listed there?
#810 [13:18] <mib_3ft4e3> so we'll download 6 but how can I check to see which version is there now?
#811 [13:19] <mib_3ft4e3> got it
#812 [13:19] <mib_3ft4e3> checking
#813 [13:19] <mib_3ft4e3> java 6 is our version
#814 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> mib_3ft4e3 - Hmm, could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#815 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> mib_3ft4e3 - Find the .minecraft folder. delete everything inside except for 'saves', then try minecraft again?
#816 [13:22] <mib_3ft4e3> working on that...
#817 [13:23] <sprog> It's not letting me add it, or at least I still haven't figured out how to add it.
#818 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Do you have some sort of "Web content scanner" for sophos enabled?
#819 [13:25] <sprog> nvm
#820 [13:25] <sprog> figured it out.
#821 [13:25] <sprog> I had to save the link as a file X_x
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#823 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> Erm, huh?
#824 [13:26] <sprog> I'm on the mac side of my computer right now, and the only way it allows me to add an exception, is to browse and "open" a file on my computer, so it wouldn't just let me add the link you gave me earlier. So I right clicked and "save link as" so that it was a file in my downloads folder
#825 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Erm, heh.
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#828 [13:28] <sprog> not that it worked. =.=
#829 [13:29] <AureliusM> sprog: no idea about macs and sophos but maybe "java" needs to be in the exception list?
#830 [13:29] <maxi_swe> My game is stuck it says its updating but its says its done what should i do
#831 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> maxi_swe - Has minecraft ever worked before?
#832 [13:29] <sprog> Does the fact that I haven't been able to update since the wolves were first released make a difference? Because after that I was having difficulties connecting to the server and a general lack of time to play the game.
#833 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Hmm. Have you redownloaded the launcher itself since then?
#834 [13:30] <sprog> Yes. The last time I played was...either spring of last year, or early fall (August/September) of this year.
#835 [13:30] <sprog> Yes
#836 [13:30] <maxi_swe> hello
#837 [13:30] <maxi_swe> a
#838 [13:30] <sprog> And on the windows side, I hadn't downloaded it at all, but I got the exact same issues.
#839 [13:31] <mib_3ft4e3> seems like the game getting stuck is common, whats the deal with that?
#840 [13:31] <sprog> *hadn't downloaded it until this morning that is
#841 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> mib_3ft4e3 - It isn't that common, and usually has to deal with something on the computer itself
#842 [13:31] <mib_3ft4e3> maxi was a little impatient?
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#844 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> mib_3ft4e3 - Did you delete everything in .minecraft except for saves?
#845 [13:32] <mib_3ft4e3> yea and are now restarting minecraft
#846 [13:33] <mib_3ft4e3> at launcher
#847 [13:33] <mib_3ft4e3> logging in
#848 [13:33] <mib_3ft4e3> do you recommend online or download?
#849 [13:34] <sprog> I wish I had a way to access internet off campus. I'm beginning to wonder if it's something on my school's network. How else would it affect both sides of my computer when I had only ever played minecraft on the one side before?
#850 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_3ft4e3 - Both will work
#851 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> sprog - It could be a network issue.
#852 [13:35] <sprog> Any idea how to go about checking that? Other than going off campus. Maybe talking to someone (how would I explain this particular problem I mean) or should I try an ethernet connection?
#853 [13:35] <mib_3ft4e3> ok, downloaded and now screen is just black
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#856 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> sprog - I honestly don't really have an answer for you there.
#857 [13:37] <mib_3ft4e3> we appear to be in! thanks! so should we use those steps if this happens again?
#858 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_3ft4e3 - Yup
#859 [13:37] <sprog> ok, I'll ask some of my IT friends and see what they think. Thanks for the help! Hopefully I'll get this thing up and running soon.
#860 [13:37] <mib_3ft4e3> Cool thanks again!
#861 [13:39] * GreyVulpine nods
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#862 [13:42] <Dante> Hello Everyone i have a question and a problem i need help with
#863 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> We have answers and solutions
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#865 [13:44] <Dante> Sweet ok alright, so i just "installed" the Water shader mod for 1.0 , it is beautifull and working buit there is one problem. I get really low Fps beneath 30 and when i see lots of water it even goes below 20 fps , my system is not bad and i really can say that it could run minecraft very smoothly my system is a Intel Core I5 720 2,8Ghz, GTX570 1,25 mb , 4 g
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#867 [13:45] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> what is the point of the accheivements?
#868 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> GAGEYSMOOTHE - No point at all
#869 [13:45] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> ok so they dont give experience or anything like that?
#870 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> GAGEYSMOOTHE - Nope
#871 [13:45] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> ok
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#873 [13:45] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> so whaat would u consider to be the easiest way to get experience then?
#874 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> GAGEYSMOOTHE - Killing mobs
#875 [13:46] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> ok so just run around at night?
#876 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Dante - As mods are made by individuals and unsupported by Mojang, we cannot provide help on every possible mod out there. This is something you'll need to take up with the creator of the water shader mod.
#877 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> GAGEYSMOOTHE - Basically, yes.
#878 [13:46] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: build a trap around a spawner to get exp
#879 [13:47] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> ok but spawners can be hard to find sometimes
#880 [13:47] <Dante> I should have known , great thanks anyways
#881 [13:48] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: then build a mob spawner, but the natural spawning rate is quite low now
#882 [13:50] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: tips: look for cave spider spawners in abandonned mineshafts, listen for mob sounds above ground in daylight, lookup "experience grinder minecraft" on YouTube,
#883 [13:52] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> how do you build a mob spawner?
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#885 [13:54] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> AureliusM: how do you build a mob spawner
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#887 [13:55] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: mob spawnertrap really. Many ways, carve out large area keep it dark, use water streams to channel the mobs to one place. Look at YouTubers xisumavoid, Docm77, Ethoslab
#888 [13:55] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> ok so i have to find one in the first place tho right?
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#890 [13:55] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: yes
#891 [13:55] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> ok
#892 [13:55] <Buildguy> anyone here?
#893 [13:55] <Buildguy> anyone here?
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#895 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Buildguy - Nope
#896 [13:55] <AureliusM> No I'm not here
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#898 [13:56] <Buildguy> Ofc you are not here! That would be burglary!
#899 [13:56] <Buildguy> but anyway...
#900 [13:56] <Buildguy> I don't have any sound in MC D:
#901 [13:56] <koleboy9> so ive just started the game and it says attack a tree till a block of wood falls out so i did , like ten trees but no block of wood falls out ? what am i doing wrong ?
#902 [13:56] <Buildguy> I re-installed my MC and the sound just stopped working :/
#903 [13:57] <AureliusM> koleboy9: hold down the mouse key when hitting the tree
#904 [13:57] <Buildguy> lol
#905 [13:57] <Buildguy> If you can read this you're boss
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#907 [13:58] <Buildguy> Does anyone know what's the problem
#908 [13:58] <Buildguy> ??
#909 [13:58] <Buildguy> anyone here?
#910 [13:59] <Buildguy> ...
#911 [13:59] <blue_berry> I have bought Minecraft 1.0.0 for my 9 year old son. It is installed and runs nicely. He has built many worlds. Now he wants Dr. Zhark's Mo Creatures Mod to go with it. I watched the instructions how to install that and think I can do it. However, it seems this requires installing Minecraft completely fresh. But my son loves the worlds he has created already and wants to keep them. How can I put them back in after following the instruc
#912 [13:59] <Buildguy> dot dot dot
#913 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> blue_berry - You don't have to delete the world when installing mods
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#915 [14:00] <AureliusM> koleboy9: Paulsoaresjr has a good series of tutorials for beginners: start at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B36Ehzf2cxE
#916 [14:00] <Buildguy202> What was the problem again?
#917 [14:00] <blue_berry> GreyVulpine: The instructions said to delete some file (have to look up the name again). I thought that would delete the old worlds?
#918 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> It does not
#919 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Are you on windows?
#920 [14:00] <blue_berry> I'm on Windows 7
#921 [14:00] <Buildguy202> Just back up that world
#922 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> blue_berry - Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#923 [14:01] <blue_berry> What is the name of the file that stores the worlds?
#924 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> All the files for minecraft, go into .minecraft
#925 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Back up the .minecraft/saves/ folder, if you want to save your single player worlds
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#927 [14:03] <blue_berry> GreyVulpine: So after installing the mod, I just copy this folder into its old place again, right?
#928 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#929 [14:03] <blue_berry> GreyVulpine: Thank you so much!!! Bye.
#930 [14:03] <blue_berry> GreyVulpine: Thank you so much!!! Bye.
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#938 [14:25] <WugPhone> Ill be back at school in a few houra
#939 [14:25] * GreyVulpine pffts
#939 [14:25] <WugPhone> Wugbot will be back online then
#940 [14:25] <ferdinand> my minecraft had crashed and my world had been deleted once i logged back in
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#942 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> ??> ferdinand mcedit
#943 [14:26] <VoxelHead> ferdinand: (mcedit) http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/download.html
#944 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> Download mcedit, load up the world in mcedit, press ctrl+S to save it, then run minecraft again
#945 [14:26] <ferdinand> what does mcedit
#946 [14:26] <ferdinand> do?
#947 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> Mcedit will fix your world. It's a map editor
#948 [14:26] <WugPhone> Its a map editor
#949 [14:27] <WugPhone> Includes some diagnoatic capabilities as well
#950 [14:27] <ferdinand> how do i use it? I have my deleted world in my saves folder but i cant get it back
#951 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> Download it, run it, open the world in mcedit.
#952 [14:27] <ferdinand> so itll help see if theres a problem too?
#953 [14:28] <ferdinand> which one do i download
#954 [14:28] <ferdinand> ?
#955 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? Windows? MacOS? Linux?
#956 [14:28] <ferdinand> windows. and my minecraf goes from a launcher
#957 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> Download setup.exe [MCEdit-stable33-win32-setup.exe]
#958 [14:29] <ferdinand> on my desktop
#959 [14:29] <ferdinand> cool thank you!
#960 [14:29] <mib_e75l9c> my mine craft thing will say "error code (4):" and it won't open, please help
#961 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - What is the full Fatal error occured (4): message?
#962 [14:30] <mib_e75l9c> hold on...
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#964 [14:30] <mib_e75l9c> unexpected end from server
#965 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - Say what? What does it say exactly?
#966 [14:31] <WugPhone> Sounds like AV interference
#967 [14:31] <mib_e75l9c> Failed to Launch
#968 [14:32] <mib_e75l9c> Fatal error occurred (4): Unexpected end of file from server
#969 [14:32] <ferdinand> is it safe?
#970 [14:32] <ferdinand> the mceditor
#971 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - I use Mcedit all the time.
#972 [14:33] <WugPhone> Yes, its fine
#973 [14:33] <ferdinand> cool thank you! (again)
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#975 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - What operating system are you on?
#976 [14:34] <mib_e75l9c> Mac
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#978 [14:35] <mib_e75l9c> Mac book pro
#979 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - Could you go to /users/username/Library/Application Support/minecraft/ and delete everything inside there except for saves, then run minecraft again? It should redownload those files
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#981 [14:36] <mib_e75l9c> I have never saved it on my mac, it is new it has never opened up
#982 [14:37] <mib_dskwqf> i did the wrong email like a one that does not exit what do i do
#983 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Check that folder to see if it's been created
#984 [14:37] <mib_dskwqf> it hasen't
#985 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_dskwqf - Send an email to help@mojang.com with a description of your problem
#986 [14:37] <mib_dskwqf> ok
#987 [14:37] <mib_e75l9c> the Minecraft folder?
#988 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - Yes
#989 [14:38] <mib_e75l9c> ok would that be in finder?
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#991 [14:39] <schnozzle> hello
#992 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> Like I said before, the minecraft folder can be found at: /users/username/Library/Application Support/minecraft/
#993 [14:39] <mib_e75l9c> ok let me try
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#996 [14:40] <darcknes> hello my mine craft keeps freezing
#997 [14:41] <mib_e75l9c> serch it on the internet?
#998 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - No, look at your hard drive.
#999 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> dark - How does it keep freezing?
#1000 [14:41] <mib_dskwqf> my account is not sowing up even though i paid for it
#1001 [14:41] <mib_e75l9c> ok
#1002 [14:41] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> when i went into the nether it froze while uploading and when i returned nothing was there where did it go?
#1003 [14:42] <mib_dskwqf> what do i do
#1004 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> mib_dskwqf - As we're community-run support, we have no access to account information. That's something you'll need to take up with your bank or financial institution.
#1005 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Make sure your bank has actually sent the payment to Mojang
#1006 [14:42] <mib_dskwqf> man come on
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#1008 [14:42] <mib_dskwqf> it did
#1009 [14:42] <darcknes> it loads up then it spends like 2 min at mojang screen then it goes to main menu but its like every min it moves 1 fps
#1010 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> mib_dskwqf - Then send an email to help@mojang.com
#1011 [14:43] <agent_fro> who are we talking to
#1012 [14:43] <mib_dskwqf> i sent it to the wrong email address
#1013 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> mib_dskwqf - Again, as we're not Mojang, we cannot do anything concerning account issues. You'll have to contact Mojang directly
#1014 [14:43] <mib_e75l9c> sorry... i am new to the mac, how do I search the hard drive?
#1015 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> Use help@mojang.com
#1016 [14:43] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> :/
#1017 [14:44] <mib_dskwqf> sad face
#1018 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - Press your command + shift + G keys to bring up the Go to Folder prompt
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#1020 [14:44] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: what do you mean "nothing was there" ?
#1021 [14:44] <agent_fro> i had some trouble when I re installed it
#1022 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - From there, put in: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#1023 [14:44] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> alll of my inventory
#1024 [14:44] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> but everything in my chests and all of that was still there
#1025 [14:45] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: did minecraft crash or freeze in a black screen?
#1026 [14:45] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> yeah like when it is loading the nether
#1027 [14:46] <mib_e75l9c> it says No such file or directory
#1028 [14:46] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: I am unclear. You went through the portal and miecraft froze while it was doing the simulating world bit?
#1029 [14:46] <agent_fro> can i get help with a mod issue i didn't have befor
#1030 [14:47] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> yeah thats exactly what happend
#1031 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> agent_fro - We do not assist with mods here.
#1032 [14:47] <mib_dskwqf> what email do i use to get account help
#1033 [14:47] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: Did you relaunch minecraft and find yourself back in the overworld? Where? at the spawn or just outside the portal?
#1034 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_dskwqf - help@mojang.com
#1035 [14:47] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: And is there a hs_err_pid file on your PC?
#1036 [14:48] <mib_e75l9c> wait... go there/
#1037 [14:48] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> i found myself at the original spawn point when i first started the game in the overworld
#1038 [14:48] <mib_e75l9c> ?
#1039 [14:48] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> what is a hs_err_pid file?
#1040 [14:48] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: a file created when java crashes, should be whereever you launch minecraft from
#1041 [14:49] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> i dont see it
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#1043 [14:49] <darcknes> can someone help?
#1044 [14:50] <mib_1qaq00> I have been able to play with no problem but now I get this Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. Can I fix this?
#1045 [14:50] <mib_e75l9c> in terminal, it says, No such file or directory
#1046 [14:50] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: but use Windows explorer to look for it. Click Start and type C:\ and in the rightside white box type hs_err_pid
#1047 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - Do you run any security software on that machine? Any antivirus or firewall software?
#1048 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_1qaq00 - Try updating your video drivers.
#1049 [14:50] <mib_e75l9c> yes
#1050 [14:51] <mib_1qaq00> How do you update?
#1051 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - Could you try turning it off to test, then run minecraft again?
#1052 [14:51] <mib_1qaq00> tries a lot of times
#1053 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_1qaq00 - Go to your computer manufacturer's website, or your video card manufacturer's website, and download the latest drivers for your card from there.
#1054 [14:51] <mib_e75l9c> i guess...
#1055 [14:52] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: How are you launching minecraft? Try using minecraft.jar and a batch file, I will link to GreyVulpine's pastebin containing instructions if you need
#1056 [14:54] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> i llaunch it off the desktop
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#1058 [14:55] <mr_fribble> how do i change my character?
#1059 [14:55] <mib_e75l9c> It didn't work
#1060 [14:55] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2 <-- copy of GreyVulpine's batch instructions
#1061 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - You mean, upload a different skin? Go to the profile page at minecraft.net
#1062 [14:56] <mr_fribble> i will try that..
#1063 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - What security software do you run?
#1064 [14:56] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> what will this accomplish for me?
#1065 [14:56] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: Also, what is your Windows operating system? Searching can be different in XP from Vista or Wndows 7.
#1066 [14:56] <mib_e75l9c> AVG
#1067 [14:57] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: It should keep th efull error log visible when minecraft crashes
#1068 [14:57] <mr_fribble> also, i am having trouble downloading - i paid for the game but it doesnt seem to download and when i play in browser it 'crashes'
#1069 [14:57] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: We need the full error log in case there are problems with graphics drivers for example
#1070 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - Are you running the launcher from minecraft.net/download?
#1071 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - Or the inbrowser client at minecraft.net?
#1072 [14:58] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> ok so do you want infor from this log after i set it up?
#1073 [14:58] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: Yes, if it crashes again.
#1074 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - Crashes how? Do you get any error messages?
#1075 [14:58] <mr_fribble> yes... let me get more info to be more specific
#1076 [14:58] <GAGEYSMOOTHE> okayyy
#1077 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - Please upload it to pastebin.com if it's a long error report.
#1078 [14:59] <mib_e75l9c> like do you mean, playing it "in browser" or downloaded? like are you asking which one i play?
#1079 [14:59] <AureliusM> GAGEYSMOOTHE: So, follow those GreyVulpine instructions, and try the Nether portal again, and error messages should appear in the black command window
#1080 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - How do you launch minecraft? Do you use minecraft.net/play/ or do you click on an icon on your dock?
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#1082 [15:00] <mib_e75l9c> uhhh i don't play it online
#1083 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - Then how do you play it?
#1084 [15:00] <mib_e75l9c> if thats what you mean
#1085 [15:01] <mib_e75l9c> either right from downloads or I move it into applecations
#1086 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> With minecraft.app that you got from minecraft.net/download?
#1087 [15:02] <mib_e75l9c> yes i believe so
#1088 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> Could you try the inbrowser client at minecraft.net/play
#1089 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> See if it does the same thing?
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#1091 [15:04] <mib_e75l9c> yeah i will try
#1092 [15:04] <mib_e75l9c> no it still does the same thing
#1093 [15:05] <mr_fribble> it's me again... i have more error info for downloading
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#1095 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - Launch the downloaded version, go to the options button, and click on "Force Update". Then log in as normal
#1096 [15:06] <mr_fribble> i go to www.minecraft.net/
#1097 [15:06] <ineedhelp> i need help
#1098 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> ineedhelp - With?
#1099 [15:06] <mib_e75l9c> ok i will try
#1100 [15:06] <mr_fribble> and click on download which is under the play minecraft icon
#1101 [15:06] <ineedhelp> how do i instal a mod?
#1102 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> ineedhelp - Read the mod's instructions.
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#1104 [15:07] <ineedhelp> ok
#1105 [15:07] <derpherp> can i remotely log out of my account from all minecraft locations?
#1106 [15:08] <mr_fribble> i then click on minecraft.exe under minecraft for windows then i either press run or save to desktop then the page opens to the login but after a few minutes of play i get a message out of memory
#1107 [15:08] <mib_e75l9c> it just did the same thing except it didn't give me the choice of updating
#1108 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> derpherp - No, but if you log in with an account, the login token for all other accounts will be invalidated.
#1109 [15:08] <mr_fribble> also... it never shows up under programs on my comuter so it doesn't seem to download
#1110 [15:08] <derpherp> ok thanks
#1111 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - What version of windows are you on?
#1112 [15:08] <mr_fribble> vista
#1113 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - 32 or 64 bit?
#1114 [15:09] <derpherp> i have another question: my minecraft when i open the screen with alll the updat info is blank
#1115 [15:09] <mr_fribble> umm .. how do i check that?
#1116 [15:09] <derpherp> and when i try to log in it gives me a null error
#1117 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - Go to your start menu, right click on "Computer" and go to properties. Look at System Type
#1118 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> derpherp - Usually is because of security software (Avira and AVG are known to cause this)
#1119 [15:10] <derpherp> ok
#1120 [15:10] <mr_fribble> it is 32
#1121 [15:10] <derpherp> im pretty sure its not that
#1122 [15:10] <derpherp> but if it was how would i fix it?
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#1124 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - Then all you can do is try turning down some of the graphics options in minecraft to lower the amount of RAM minecraft takes up. Try turning the render distance down from far to normal or below
#1125 [15:11] <mib_e75l9c> It doesn't work
#1126 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> derpherp - Either by adding http://s3.amazonaws.com/* to the web/link checker's exceptions list, or by configuring traffic from java through
#1127 [15:12] <rumpler> for some reason i am unable to buy minecraft and i was just wondering if i tried to buy a giftcard and lets just say that that did work, would i be able to use that same gift card to buy minecraft
#1128 [15:12] <derpherp> oh and another error i get is fatal error occurance: permission denied connect
#1129 [15:12] <ineedhelp> i need help
#1130 [15:12] <ineedhelp> help me plz
#1131 [15:12] <ineedhelp> i need help on instaling mo creatures
#1132 [15:13] <AureliusM> rumpler: I do not think gift cards will work.
#1133 [15:13] <ineedhelp> aure
#1134 [15:13] <rumpler> aww man why not?
#1135 [15:13] <ineedhelp> Aure help me plz
#1136 [15:13] <koleboy9> do i need 64 bit java ? my graphics are so jumpy not smooth at all very frustrating
#1137 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> derpherp - Do you have java 7 installed?
#1138 [15:13] <mib_e75l9c> hello
#1139 [15:13] <AureliusM> ineedhelp: see the forum for mo creatures, we do nt support mods here really
#1140 [15:13] <derpherp> ineedhelp: try looking up on the youtubes thats where i get the deets on installing mods
#1141 [15:13] <ineedhelp> ok
#1142 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> derpherp - Java 7's been known to cause that as well
#1143 [15:14] <mr_fribble> thank you.. i will try that for the error messages, but do you know why it doesn't seem to download to my computer?
#1144 [15:14] <derpherp> GreyVulpine: not sure... how do i check?
#1145 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> derpherp - operating system?
#1146 [15:14] <derpherp> for the java version
#1147 [15:14] <AureliusM> rumpler: I do not know why, only have seen many people have no luck with them on getsatisfaction. In fact oftenntimes, PayPal is the way that works best.
#1148 [15:14] <derpherp> my os is
#1149 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> derpherp - What operating system are you on?
#1150 [15:14] <derpherp> windows 7
#1151 [15:14] <mib_e75l9c> Hello???????????????
#1152 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> derpherp - Go to your start menu -> control panel -> programs and features -> look to see if you have java 7 in there.
#1153 [15:15] <derpherp> i do have java 7
#1154 [15:15] <rumpler> well paypal is the way im trying
#1155 [15:15] <mib_e75l9c> I am still here!
#1156 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> derpherp - Uninstall java 7, reinstall 6
#1157 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> ?? java
#1158 [15:15] <VoxelHead> java: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html
#1159 [15:16] <derpherp> ok thanks
#1160 [15:16] <rumpler> and ive asked them for help a whole bunch of times and well there help center just isnt good
#1161 [15:16] <AureliusM> rumpler: I have used both a prepaid VISA card (not a gift card) and a real VISA credit card and each one worked. Both PayPal and moneybookers.
#1162 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - I don't know what else to tell you.
#1163 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - Check to see if you have all the latest updates for your computer from apple software update.
#1164 [15:17] <koleboy9> also when smashing blocks one hit and their gone , arent you supposed to hit it several times before it breaks ?? cause i cant collect wood at all and ive taken down many trees
#1165 [15:17] <rumpler> so just in case is there any posible reason why it wont work for me
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#1167 [15:17] <rumpler> not related to paypal
#1168 [15:17] <AureliusM> koleboy9: Sounds like Creative mode.
#1169 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> ?? prepaid
#1170 [15:17] <mib_e75l9c> how do i do that?
#1171 [15:17] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#1172 [15:17] <koleboy9> whats the diferences between creative and others ?
#1173 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_e75l9c - Check the apple icon in the upper left.
#1174 [15:18] <AureliusM> koleboy9: When you create a new world you choose the world type: Creative or Survival, or I think Hardcore. I'll check now
#1175 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> You're right AureliusM.
#1176 [15:18] <mib_e75l9c> ok
#1177 [15:18] <koleboy9> yes you do i did choose creative
#1178 [15:19] <AureliusM> koleboy9: See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Creative_(Game_Mode) and http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Category:Game_modes
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#1180 [15:20] <lara> Hello, i need some help.
#1181 [15:20] <derpherp> GreyVulpine:Thank you so much! it worked
#1182 [15:20] <lara> Anyone willing to help me out?
#1183 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> derpherp - Glad to help
#1184 [15:20] <lara> Grey, can you help me?
#1185 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> lara - With?
#1186 [15:21] <lara> See,i found out the version i saw on the forums that i loved
#1187 [15:21] <mib_e75l9c> can't do it right now... i will stay on here and ask anything else when I can
#1188 [15:21] <lara> Which was the monster killing version and stuff
#1189 [15:21] <lara> Was PTP.
#1190 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> lara - Right, the premium, paid for version
#1191 [15:21] <lara> But then i googled some stuff
#1192 [15:21] <lara> And it got me confused
#1193 [15:21] <lara> Is there any way
#1194 [15:21] <lara> Any way to play a lighter version
#1195 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> lara - To get it for free? No. Not legally
#1196 [15:21] <lara> for free and single player?
#1197 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> lara - There is the outdated classic version, available on the website at minecraft.net, but that's creative only, no monsters or crafting
#1198 [15:22] <lara> Yeah i played that one
#1199 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> Beyond that, there's no other version
#1200 [15:22] <lara> Oh well.. how much does the paid one cost?
#1201 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> 20 euros, or about 27 dollars USD
#1202 [15:22] <lara> Wewt.
#1203 [15:23] * AureliusM thinks the PC Gamer demo version is still availabe
#1203 [15:23] <lara> Thank you.
#1204 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, but that's time-locked to 90 minutes
#1205 [15:24] <AureliusM> I know, but if they want to try before they buy...
#1206 [15:24] <lara> Where can i download it?
#1207 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> ?? demo
#1208 [15:24] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#1209 [15:24] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#1210 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> It is quite out of date, with not all of the new features of 1.0.0
#1211 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> It's still running beta 1.5 features
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#1213 [15:24] <lara> Atleast it's better than Classic version.
#1214 [15:25] <lara> I kinda don't like that classic version, i feel it's not full enough and end up talking to trees out of boredom.
#1215 [15:25] <lara> Thank you again.
#1216 [15:25] <mib_igaape> how long does it takes for mojang to replay to a email
#1217 [15:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> depends how busy they are
#1218 [15:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> id say at least a few days
#1219 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_igaape - We have no ETA really, nobody ever tells us
#1220 [15:26] <AureliusM> lara: if you think classic is limited try Minicraft, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minicraft
#1221 [15:26] <mib_igaape> i need to be replyed right now
#1222 [15:26] <lara> Minicraft?
#1223 [15:27] <Eddie> Minicraft, a game by Notch for the Ludum Dare competition.
#1224 [15:27] <mib_igaape> what do i do
#1225 [15:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> mib_igaape that istn going to happen
#1226 [15:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> you'll just need to wait
#1227 [15:27] <lara> If you had to relate it to a version of Minecraft
#1228 [15:27] <lara> What version would it be?
#1229 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> lara - 2d classic
#1230 [15:28] <lara> Thank you! after the 90 minutes have passed, i'll go play that Minicraft thing.. i'll see if i buy it after that.
#1231 [15:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> may as well play terarria
#1232 [15:28] <lara> Terraria?
#1233 [15:28] <AureliusM> lara: Minicraft is far too simple makes Classic look advanced.
#1234 [15:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> its like mc but with a load of bosses and monsters, items, armor etc
#1235 [15:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> and its 2d
#1236 [15:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> side scrolling
#1237 [15:29] <lara> Then nevermind.
#1238 [15:29] <mib_igaape> i pay $86.23 for my permium account
#1239 [15:29] <AureliusM> lara: ignore my last, I got confused about Minicraft
#1240 [15:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> wat
#1241 [15:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> how did you do that
#1242 [15:29] <mib_igaape> yes $86.23
#1243 [15:29] <lara> I checked the wiki and it's wizard killing and stuff in minicraft.
#1244 [15:29] <ineedhelp> HELP
#1245 [15:30] <mib_igaape> i dont know
#1246 [15:30] <ineedhelp> plz
#1247 [15:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??> ineedhelp ?? help
#1248 [15:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> oops
#1249 [15:30] <ineedhelp> yes
#1250 [15:30] <mib_igaape> and i put the wrong email account
#1251 [15:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??> ineedhelp ask
#1252 [15:30] <VoxelHead> ineedhelp: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1253 [15:30] <VoxelHead> ineedhelp: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1254 [15:30] <lara> I'll check Terraria after.
#1255 [15:30] <lara> This is just so confusing for me..
#1256 [15:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> terarria isnt free
#1257 [15:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> its a different game made by different people
#1258 [15:30] <ineedhelp> i just got mo creatures the mod and it dosent work
#1259 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> lara - If you kinda like creative, but want to try out premium, use the demo
#1260 [15:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??> ineedhelp mods
#1261 [15:31] <VoxelHead> ineedhelp: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1262 [15:31] <VoxelHead> ineedhelp: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1263 [15:31] <lara> Yeah, i will.
#1264 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> lara - If you still like the demo, the full, paid for version is only 27 USD
#1265 [15:31] <mib_igaape> and my account doesent wrock
#1266 [15:31] <lara> The thing is Grey, in my country 27 USD isn't that little, so i have to see if i really can spend 27 USD on it or not after i think about it.
#1267 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> mib_igaape - As it's the weekend, Mojang isn't in the office right now, you'll need to wait until Monday at the very least to get a reply
#1268 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> mib_igaape - Be aware that many people besides you also require help, so a little patience is necessary
#1269 [15:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> why do all the new people use mibbi
#1270 [15:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> t
#1271 [15:33] <koleboy9> GRAPHICS ARE VERY CHOPPY AND JUMPY??? ANY IDEAS ?
#1272 [15:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> kole dont caps
#1273 [15:33] <koleboy9> sorry caps was on :)
#1274 [15:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> kole - tried updating gfx drivers and making sure you have 64bit java (if you have a 64bit os)
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#1276 [15:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> also how much ram do you have koleboy9
#1277 [15:35] <koleboy9> not sure how to update drivers does java 7 have 64bit?
#1278 [15:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> yes
#1279 [15:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> but only if you have a 64bit os would you get 64bit java
#1280 [15:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??> koleboy9 win/drivers
#1281 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> Java 7's also been known to cause extreme lagginess
#1282 [15:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> hm ok
#1283 [15:36] <lara> Excuse me guys.
#1284 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> lara - Yes?
#1285 [15:36] <lara> How much does the actual full game weigh?
#1286 [15:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> GreyVulpine how do i consult the index of voxel
#1287 [15:36] <lara> Not the launcher, the game as a whole.
#1288 [15:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> weigh?
#1289 [15:36] <lara> In MB
#1290 [15:36] <TheNoodle> 1.2kg.
#1291 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> 40 megs for the actual game. Plus saved games
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#1293 [15:36] <lara> Ok, thank you again.
#1294 [15:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??> WhereIsMySpoon index
#1295 [15:36] <VoxelHead> WhereIsMySpoon: (index) See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#1296 [15:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah
#1297 [15:37] <AureliusM> lara: Physical memory needed to run it will be over one gigabyte, two would be better
#1298 [15:37] <TheNytangel> WhereIsMySpoon: there's also a command... ??<
#1299 [15:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> whats that do
#1300 [15:37] <TheNytangel> Try it
#1301 [15:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> pm?
#1302 [15:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??< WhereIsMySpoon index
#1303 [15:37] <TheNytangel> No
#1304 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> without your name
#1305 [15:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh
#1306 [15:37] <TheNytangel> Don't use your name
#1307 [15:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??> index
#1308 [15:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> oops
#1309 [15:38] <TheNytangel> -_-
#1310 [15:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??< index
#1311 [15:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> oki
#1312 [15:38] <lara> Thanks for the information Aurelius, i got the necessary.
#1313 [15:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??< telepathy
#1314 [15:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> ^^
#1315 [15:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> anyhow
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#1319 [15:45] <lara> How do i check for materials to build?
#1320 [15:45] <lara> I'm on the demo
#1321 [15:45] <lara> I have no idea what to do lol.
#1322 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
#1323 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials#Newcomers
#1324 [15:46] <lara> Nevermind, just found out.
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#1326 [15:49] <Ian4lulz> Hello, I am just trying to figure out why I can't drag items/weapons onto my workbench or on the 1-9 keys. they just move directly
#1327 [15:50] <AureliusM> Ian4lulz: shift key is held down?
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#1329 [15:50] <Ian4lulz> nope
#1330 [15:50] <OH> but why
#1331 [15:51] <AureliusM> Ian4lulz: or, you are Creative mode?
#1332 [15:51] <Ian4lulz> nope survival
#1333 [15:51] <OH> hey how come i cant find iron ore in survival
#1334 [15:51] <AureliusM> Ian4lulz: Mouse? Mac? Windows?
#1335 [15:51] <OH> i have more diamond and reddstone than iron ore
#1336 [15:52] <AureliusM> OH: iron is available at most depths even some close to surface level 64
#1337 [15:52] <Ian4lulz> I have windows
#1338 [15:52] <OH> i have a tunnel which goes to the deepest level and no iron
#1339 [15:52] <OH> makes me cry....
#1340 [15:52] <Ian4lulz> And if you are asking what mousice I have, it is wireless logitech
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#1342 [15:53] <AureliusM> OH: seed number? I've always found more iron than other ores. Unless playing a custom built adventure map.
#1343 [15:54] <OH> sec let me get seed
#1344 [15:54] <AureliusM> Ian4lulz: You left mouse click and hold it down on the item in your inventory and drag the item to the workbench, and let goof the mouse key?
#1345 [15:54] <AureliusM> Ian4lulz: -> let go of <-
#1346 [15:54] <OH> erm how do i get seed again
#1347 [15:54] <OH> it was one of the f's
#1348 [15:55] <AureliusM> OH: F3
#1349 [15:55] <Ian4lulz> yeah. but even if I hold it down it doesn't matter. it goes directly between my inventory and 1-9
#1350 [15:55] <Ian4lulz> the second I touch the mouse, the item moves
#1351 [15:55] <AureliusM> Ian4lulz: vanilla minecraft with no mods? No mouse helper utilities?
#1352 [15:55] <OH> 5738823960488309968
#1353 [15:56] <AureliusM> I need to restart my browser to try minecraft, back in a minute
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#1355 [15:56] <Ian4lulz> No mods or anything
#1356 [15:56] <Ian4lulz> No mods or anything
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#1358 [15:56] <Ian4lulz> I was literally playing all day
#1359 [15:56] <Ian4lulz> and then it just stopped working
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#1361 [15:57] <skippydippy> When I try to play in browser it just gives me a blank screen
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#1363 [15:59] <WugPhone> Colon pee
#1364 [15:59] <TheNytangel> Someone is watching iCarly...
#1365 [15:59] <OH> O.O
#1366 [15:59] <WugPhone> No, i just say thag
#1367 [15:59] <WugPhone> That*
#1368 [16:00] <TheNytangel> Uh huh
#1369 [16:00] <TheNytangel> WugPhone: SBBQ tonight?
#1370 [16:00] <WugPhone> Exclamation point left parenthesis
#1371 [16:00] <skippydippy> When I try to play in browser it just gives me a blank screen
#1372 [16:00] <TheNytangel> !(
#1373 [16:00] <TheNytangel> I don't know what..... that face is
#1374 [16:00] <WugPhone> skippydippy try a differrnt browser
#1375 [16:01] <skippydippy> already did
#1376 [16:01] <WugPhone> TheNytangel its an angry winky face
#1377 [16:01] * AureliusM [AureliusM@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1378 [16:01] <TheNytangel> WugPhone: I'm PMC
#1379 [16:01] <WugPhone> skippydippy are you trying to play classic or the full version
#1380 [16:01] <oldtopman> WugPhone: Us programmers say "bang". It's monosyllabic.
#1381 [16:02] <skippydippy> full
#1382 [16:02] <TheNytangel> WugPhone: http://wiki.freedragon.org/index.php?title=Omnitron
#1383 [16:02] <TheNytangel> Not that...
#1384 [16:02] <WugPhone> oldtopman go blork yourself colon dee
#1385 [16:02] <TheNytangel> WugPhone: http://imgur.com/gallery/0pWh3
#1386 [16:02] * AureliusM cannot find the logs for this irc channel
#1386 [16:03] <oldtopman> WugPhone: Cut that out eff you
#1387 [16:03] <WugPhone> TheNytangelim on my phone on a train, link it again later
#1388 [16:03] <TheNytangel> AureliusM: http://sbnc.khobbits.co.uk/log/logs/minecrafthelp.htm
#1389 [16:04] <AureliusM> Thank you TheNyteAngel, now bookmarked. Although they look different from the other ones I saw.
#1390 [16:05] <TheNytangel> Well look in your browser history
#1391 [16:05] <WugPhone> AureliusM Kealper has logs too
#1392 [16:05] <skippydippy> full
#1393 [16:05] <AureliusM> TheNyteAngel: of course! They were at http://kealper.com/irclogs/index.a3w
#1394 [16:06] <TheNytangel> Uh huh
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#1396 [16:06] <eloscuro> How can i change my email adress from my minecraft account
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#1399 [16:07] <eloscuro> ?
#1400 [16:07] <EnigmaClueless> Hello?
#1401 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> eloscuro - Currently not possible
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#1403 [16:08] <WugPhone> Fffff
#1404 [16:08] <eloscuro> and no way to realeese the email adress, by deleting the account for example?
#1405 [16:08] <TheNytangel> eloscuro: can't
#1406 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> eloscuro - Could you tell us exactly why you want to change the email address?
#1407 [16:09] <TheNytangel> He murdered 5 people
#1408 [16:09] <TheNytangel> Needs a new identity
#1409 [16:09] <EnigmaClueless> Is there any server connection issues with the current Minecraft version?
#1410 [16:09] <eloscuro> I really want to change my account name
#1411 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> EnigmaClueless - With 1.0.0, yes, with 1.0.1, no
#1412 [16:09] <eloscuro> but i guess that's not possible so i want to keep the same email adress for my new account name
#1413 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> eloscuro - No possible way to do that right now, unless you want to purchase a new account
#1414 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> You can register multiple accounts under one username
#1415 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> er, email
#1416 [16:10] <EnigmaClueless> Has 1.0.1 been released? My launcher hasen't automatically updated.
#1417 [16:10] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: do you like SBBQs?
#1418 [16:10] <AureliusM> OH: I found iron within 2 minutes from your seed: 5738823960488309968 - iron at x 100 z 234 just dig down 2 deep in the pool. Maybe you need to spelunk caves closer to the surface to find more iron.
#1419 [16:10] <eloscuro> it says i can't when i try to
#1420 [16:10] <TheNytangel> EnigmaClueless: server is 1.0.1
#1421 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> EnigmaClueless - 1.0.1 is a server version only
#1422 [16:10] <eloscuro> it says "Email already in use!"
#1423 [16:11] <EnigmaClueless> Okay, thanks.
#1424 [16:11] <TheNytangel> Smart people would read the topic..
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#1431 [16:41] <eloscuro> GreyVulpine
#1432 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#1433 [16:42] <eloscuro> You said that i can register multiple accounts under one email adress right?
#1434 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> That used to be the case, I don't know if you still can.
#1435 [16:43] <eloscuro> I think it's no longer possible, when i try it says "Email already in use!"
#1436 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> eloscuro - You may be better off trying to email Mojang directly at help@mojang.com with this issue.
#1437 [16:43] <eloscuro> ok, thx
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#1441 [16:58] <TheApplenator> hey my TheApplenator account for minecraft has been hacked and the pass word has been changed and so has the email i dont no how anyone could have done this but can someone help me
#1442 [16:59] <TheNoodle> TheApplenator, the email address associated with a minecraft account cannot be changed.
#1443 [16:59] <TheApplenator> well then i must not remeber the right email fuck but i no for a fact that my password has been changed
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#1446 [17:00] <TheApplenator> srry lol
#1447 [17:00] <TheApplenator> my password has diffen been changed can u tell me what email i used cause i cant remeber my email havent been able to play in 2 months
#1448 [17:01] <TheNoodle> We can't I'm afraid.
#1449 [17:01] <TheApplenator> i dont no what i can do then what am i supposed to do
#1450 [17:01] <TheNoodle> One moment.
#1451 [17:01] <TheApplenator> :) ok
#1452 [17:02] <TheNoodle> You should get an email from mojang asking you to reset your password.
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#1454 [17:02] <TheNoodle> Unless the site is broken again :/
#1455 [17:02] <TheApplenator> i dont remeber the email that i used for theapplenator account i bought the shit a year ago
#1456 [17:03] <TheApplenator> if i can figure out the email then i will be able to log into it
#1457 [17:03] <TheNoodle> There's not much I can do.
#1458 [17:03] <TheApplenator> i have alot of emails accounts what should i do
#1459 [17:03] <TheNoodle> Have less emails.
#1460 [17:04] <TheApplenator> im going to have to try and remeber all my emails
#1461 [17:04] <TheApplenator> thanks for the help
#1462 [17:05] <OH> Guys.... my health is at 1 heart and its been 2 days in the game
#1463 [17:05] <OH> how do i heal??
#1464 [17:05] <TheApplenator> peaceful
#1465 [17:05] <AureliusM> OH: eat
#1466 [17:05] <TheApplenator> lolzzzz
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#1468 [17:05] <OH> i ate
#1469 [17:05] <OH> still 1 heart
#1470 [17:05] <TheNoodle> Eat enough that your hunger bar is full
#1471 [17:05] <AureliusM> OH: if you want to play it real, quyick grow some wheat, make bread: or kill pigs and cows for meat
#1472 [17:05] <TheNoodle> then you'll start healing.
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#1474 [17:06] <OH> ohhh needs fulll hunger?
#1475 [17:06] <OH> yup healing now
#1476 [17:06] <AureliusM> OH: that seed you gave me has a village near the spawn with wheat growing
#1477 [17:06] <OH> yea i know
#1478 [17:06] <OH> what do i do with them
#1479 [17:06] <DaggaRoosta> Howdy y'all. Anyone in the mood to answer a n00b question?
#1480 [17:06] <AureliusM> OH: put three wheat in a row on a crafting bench makes bread
#1481 [17:07] <OH> ah ok
#1482 [17:07] <OH> thanks
#1483 [17:07] <AureliusM> OH: there's a crafting bench in one of the houses too!
#1484 [17:07] <TheNytangel> DaggaRoosta: and the question is
#1485 [17:07] <AureliusM> OH: and plenty of iron on the surface in the caves around
#1486 [17:08] <DaggaRoosta> I'm trying to play on an older laptop, one where in order to get the game to play I have to turn hardware acceleration down
#1487 [17:08] <OH> caves r scary
#1488 [17:08] <OH> i dig myself
#1489 [17:08] <DaggaRoosta> and optifine and other FPS mods are making the game crash. I take it that's because I have to turn down hardware acceleration?
#1490 [17:09] <OH> but AureliusM, i took a couple steps up and dug on the side of my cave that i dug
#1491 [17:09] <OH> i did find iron
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#1493 [17:09] <OH> i was too deep for iron i guess
#1494 [17:10] <DaggaRoosta> in other words, does anyone know if optifine, etc. require full hardware acceleration to work?
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#1496 [17:11] <AureliusM> DaggaRoosta: it should not crash with optifine, but maybe the other mods are the cause. I'm not sure but I do not think Optifine needs hardware cceleration
#1497 [17:11] <AureliusM> DaggaRoosta: what graphics card do you have?
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#1499 [17:12] <DaggaRoosta> I'm only installing one mod at a time, and none of them are working. My "graphics card" is onboard Intel 965 family.
#1500 [17:12] <TheNytangel> Integrated..
#1501 [17:12] <mudpit> i cannot run minecraft. It says cannot get input stream for lwgjl_applet.jar.pack
#1502 [17:12] <mudpit> plz help
#1503 [17:13] <DaggaRoosta> I figured out from trial and error that the base game will only play if I turn hardware acceleration down; otherwise I get a accelerated Open GL error.
#1504 [17:13] <mudpit> how do i do that
#1505 [17:13] <AureliusM> DaggaRoosta: you mean in Minecraft video options you turn Advanced OpenGL to OFF? Or in the display adapter control panel?
#1506 [17:13] <TheNytangel> mudpit: they didn't tell you to do anything...
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#1508 [17:14] <mudpit> ...
#1509 [17:14] <DaggaRoosta> No, sorry for being unclear; in the display properties in WinXP, I'm turning HA down to the point where DirectDraw and Direct3D are disabled.
#1510 [17:15] <DaggaRoosta> Then the game will work...at about 9 FPS.
#1511 [17:15] <OH> i made a pond next to myy house on top of the mountain!!! I OWNNNNN yesss
#1512 [17:16] <DaggaRoosta> It'd be great to get better FPS via mods but all of them are giving me blackscreen. I'm thinking it's due to the HA settings, but I'd like to be sure.
#1513 [17:16] <OH> can i fish in it
#1514 [17:17] <AureliusM> DaggaRoosta: I see, 9 FPS with distance far? I only get 20 with Normal, Fast graphics and I have a Nvidia 6500. It's likely you won't get better. Have the helpers here checked your drivers are up to date even though it's Intel integrated?
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#1516 [17:17] <BenMcLean> hey guise
#1517 [17:17] <BenMcLean> I am trying to setup a minecraft server and get no signal
#1518 [17:17] <DaggaRoosta> Naw unfortunately, 9 FPS with Normal and all the other settings turned down.
#1519 [17:17] <AureliusM> mudpit: have you reinatlled Java 6?
#1520 [17:18] <BenMcLean> I have made an exception to the firewall on my local machine, setup port forwarding on the router and made a dns subdomain to point to this IP
#1521 [17:18] <mudpit> yeah, i installed the latest version of java and the 64bit java
#1522 [17:18] <OH> how do i see fps
#1523 [17:18] <BenMcLean> but I get no signal on YouGetSignal. Any suggestions?
#1524 [17:18] <DaggaRoosta> I updated my Intel drivers, and Java to 1.7. That helped a little. But I see with optifine that people can get 3X FPS and I start drooling uncontrollably.
#1525 [17:18] <BenMcLean> BTW we're on comcast cable internet and they say servers are ok
#1526 [17:18] <AureliusM> DaggaRoosta: I'm looking for the Intel 965 specs now
#1527 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> 965s kinda suck
#1528 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> You're not going to get much more out of it
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#1530 [17:19] <DaggaRoosta> GreyVulpine: you're not kidding...
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#1532 [17:20] <BenMcLean> guys, help please. :)
#1533 [17:20] <OH> how do i see fps
#1534 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> BenMcLean - Walk us through your network setup, give us IPs. What's the ip address of your server/
#1535 [17:20] <OH> nvm
#1536 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> OH - Press F3
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#1538 [17:20] <OH> i have 40 fps with ati radeon 5650
#1539 [17:21] <DaggaRoosta> I'm not expecting the world here, of course. It's not a good machine for Minecraft. But it's BORDERLINE playable, a little more FPS boost and I'm good. Any tips beyond driver and Java upgrades would be appreciated.
#1540 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> DaggaRoosta - turning down some of the video options in minecraft to minimum?
#1541 [17:22] <DaggaRoosta> Yup, done that. I can get a decent FPS by turning the render settings all the way down, but then I can't see anything beyond a few paces.
#1542 [17:22] <BenMcLean> GreyVulpine, mclean.us.to
#1543 [17:22] <BenMcLean> is the subdomain
#1544 [17:23] <BenMcLean> points to 69.242.133.252 our public IP
#1545 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Right, okay..
#1546 [17:23] <BenMcLean> inside that is 192.168.0.18, the local IP for the machine I am on
#1547 [17:23] <BenMcLean> it runs the minecraft server
#1548 [17:23] <AureliusM> DaggaRoosta: not sure if this helps, opengl compatibility list of intel 965 : http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/cs-010479.htm
#1549 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> BenMcLean - Could I get a screenshot of the router's status page at 192.168.0.1, or make sure the WAN ip there matches your 69.242.133.252 address?
#1550 [17:24] <BenMcLean> I first tried the default minecraft port 25565 but when that didn't work, I tried port 80 which is what I'm on now
#1551 [17:24] <DaggaRoosta> Thanks AureliusM, I'll check it out. You guys are the bee's knees for volunteering your time, thanks.
#1552 [17:24] <BenMcLean> GreyVulpine OK
#1553 [17:24] <BenMcLean> i'll pm u in a se
#1554 [17:24] <BenMcLean> *second
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#1556 [17:35] <TM> could someone see if they can connect to my server..if you have a second
#1557 [17:35] <TM> 64.78.153.134 port 25565
#1558 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> !check 64.78.153.134
#1559 [17:36] <TM> ah didn't know u could do that
#1560 [17:36] <TM> thanks!
#1561 [17:36] <krebbit> my game loads and asks to run the same thing like 5 time then stops and leaves me with a white screen. what's going on?
#1562 [17:38] <AureliusM> !check vwxyz.homeftp.net
#1563 [17:39] <AureliusM> !check 78.14.182.119
#1564 [17:41] <krebbit> help?
#1565 [17:41] <krebbit> any answer for me?
#1566 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> krebbit - How are you launching minecraft? What operating system are you on? Are you trying the one in-browser or the downloaded client?
#1567 [17:42] <AureliusM> !check 78.14.182.119
#1568 [17:42] <krebbit> it's in browser on safari on a mac
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#1570 [17:43] <reedlepee> if the free minecraft does not work, will premium minecraft work?
#1571 [17:44] <BenMcLean> reedlepee, probably not
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#1573 [17:47] <krebbit> still no answer?
#1574 [17:47] <TM> try chrome on mac
#1575 [17:47] <TM> check for any updates on your mac to make sure java is updated
#1576 [17:48] <krebbit> i don't hab any updates and i don't hav chrome
#1577 [17:48] <TM> try chrome
#1578 [17:49] <krebbit> my parents don't want to download stuff off the web so i can't
#1579 [17:49] <BenMcLean> krebbit, come back when you've got parents who understand how to use computers.
#1580 [17:49] <BenMcLean> or you're grown up, whichever happens first.
#1581 [17:50] <BenMcLean> because the web is downloading stuff. you're downloading stuff by reading what I'm typing right now.
#1582 [17:50] <BenMcLean> you're downloading these words.
#1583 [17:50] <krebbit> lol i wish they would and i guess i'll hav to wait until i get a computer at the end of june
#1584 [17:50] <krebbit> lol i wish they would and i guess i'll hav to wait until i get a computer at the end of june
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#1586 [17:52] <BenMcLean> well um, I think GreyVulpine is AFK
#1587 [17:52] <BenMcLean> anybody else around? :)
#1588 [17:52] * BenMcLean is having really bad server issues.
#1588 [17:52] <TM> ben is your server still not working?
#1589 [17:53] <BenMcLean> TM, no changes have occured
#1590 [17:53] <TM> so your using a cisco router it looked like?
#1591 [17:53] <BenMcLean> only suggestions I've gotten have been to try things I've already tried
#1592 [17:53] <TM> can you access the server on your local network?
#1593 [17:53] <BenMcLean> My router is a ZOOM model 5350 series 192 if that means anything to you
#1594 [17:54] <BenMcLean> TM, yes I can access the server inside the LAN. my little bros and i have been making castles and railroads and crap
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#1596 [17:55] <BenMcLean> i bought them minecraft for christmas
#1597 [17:55] <BenMcLean> it was like one of those advertisements
#1598 [17:55] <BenMcLean> "Give the gift of Minecraft this holiday season. Because scruffy looking Swedish guys with odd hats deserve your moneys."
#1599 [17:56] <BenMcLean> anyways, so that we can paly when i'm at university, we need internet server setup now, not just lan server :)
#1600 [17:57] <TM> right..ok well just wanted to make sure the server itself was setup correctly
#1601 [17:57] <BenMcLean> university IT people don't seem to comprehend the idea that in your apartment, it's reasonable that you might wanna run a small server and get around their firewall cause that's where you live.
#1602 [17:57] <TM> which appears it is
#1603 [17:57] <BenMcLean> so anyways i would be setting this up on my end at college except for that, so it has to be on their end (here)
#1604 [17:58] <TM> and does your router have a web administration panel?
#1605 [17:58] <BenMcLean> i can understand having strict filtering and firewall rules and whatever other junk they think they need on a college campus in the college buildings but not in the dorms. not where people live
#1606 [17:58] <BenMcLean> TM, yeah, been in it, setup port forwarding
#1607 [17:58] <BenMcLean> even got a freeDNS subdomain to point to us
#1608 [17:59] <TM> try setting up your server under the DMZ zone..for testing purposes
#1609 [17:59] <BenMcLean> what's DMZ ZONE?
#1610 [18:00] <TM> its where it opens all ports to a desigated IP on your internal network
#1611 [18:00] <TM> that will just tell us if then the port forward is incorrect
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#1614 [18:07] <WugPhone> T minus 2 hours to wuggybot
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#1630 [18:34] <WugPhone> I love this channel when its quiet
#1631 [18:34] <WugPhone> Otherwise i only like it >„>
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#1634 [18:44] <LevyDude> So i was just trying to get a mod for minecraft, when minecraft stopped working, the screen would just go black, when I deleted the game, and got it again, it still did not work
#1635 [18:45] <LevyDude> anything I can do to fix it?
#1636 [18:45] <WugPhone> LevyDude options -> force update
#1637 [18:46] <LevyDude> I can't find options, I have a mac
#1638 [18:46] <WugPhone> Its in the launcher
#1639 [18:46] <WugPhone> Before you login
#1640 [18:48] <LevyDude> I can't find it, I have version 1.0.0
#1641 [18:50] <WugPhone> The options button is right next to the login buttin
#1642 [18:51] <LevyDude> i clicked it but nothing happened
#1643 [18:53] <WugPhone> Login again
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#1645 [18:54] <LevyDude> It's working, THANKS, it is downloading packages
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#1647 [18:55] <mib_emsuy2> can someone help my minecraft wont load
#1648 [18:55] <AureliusM> mib_emsuy2: What error message are you seeing?
#1649 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Wow, a whole 33 seconds.
#1650 [18:55] <LevyDude> Oh, same thing happened to mee, force an update and try singing in again
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#1653 [19:19] <mr_pants> i bought minecraft 3 days ago but i cant download the game because i havent recieved a verification email.
#1654 [19:22] <mr_pants> hello?
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#1658 [19:24] <leaper> Hello I keep getting a cannot locate java virtual machine and i have java downloaded? Is there a fix?
#1659 [19:24] <Buddy> Hello i Have bought minecraft 3 days ago but i cant download the game because i havent gotten a verification email.
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#1661 [19:28] <Puddles> how to set up to play multiplayer. I looked at the server thing and well this should not be so complicated
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#1666 [19:40] <mib_5xtprl> can u help?
#1667 [19:40] <mib_5xtprl> java
#1668 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1669 [19:41] <mib_5xtprl> java prob
#1670 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> What java problem would that be?
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#1672 [19:41] <mib_5xtprl> when i start the game up (multiplayer) the screen is black
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#1674 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> mib_5xtprl - Has minecraft ever worked before?
#1675 [19:42] <WugPhone> Durp
#1676 [19:42] <mib_5xtprl> no
#1677 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> mib_5xtprl - Are you using classic or the paid for premium client?
#1678 [19:42] <WugPhone> Do you have a! In your windiws usernamw?
#1679 [19:42] <mib_5xtprl> paid
#1680 [19:43] <WugPhone> A '!' , username*
#1681 [19:43] <WugPhone> Horrible typos
#1682 [19:43] <mib_5xtprl> the game will work fine on my laptop but not on my desktop
#1683 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> mib_5xtprl: how about answering the questions asked of you?
#1684 [19:43] <sprocket> we just downloaded the game onto a Mac and can't get the game to work. any thoughts?
#1685 [19:43] <mib_5xtprl> no a in uusername
#1686 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> sprocket: what version of OS X are you running?
#1687 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> mib_5xtprl: okay. how about '!'s?
#1688 [19:44] <WugPhone> mib_5xtprl Do you have a '!' in your windows username
#1689 [19:44] <mib_5xtprl> its not a mac
#1690 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> mib_5xtprl: that's why I didn't ask you about that.
#1691 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> Work with us here.
#1692 [19:44] <mib_5xtprl> ive an idea ill get back to u thnx
#1693 [19:45] <WugPhone> Windows is not mac, that us correct
#1694 [19:45] <sprocket> version 10.6.8
#1695 [19:45] <WugPhone> Stupid touxh keyboard
#1696 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> sprocket: when you try to start the game, what happens?
#1697 [19:46] <sprocket> it loads but can't build any blocks
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#1699 [19:46] <WugPhone> sprocket single or multi player?
#1700 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> sprocket: single-player, or online?
#1701 [19:46] <sprocket> single
#1702 [19:47] <coyote> If i purchased a prereales do I still get the full release
#1703 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> coyote: yes.
#1704 [19:47] <WugPhone> Are you new to the full version?
#1705 [19:47] <coyote> yes
#1706 [19:47] <WugPhone> sprocket ^
#1707 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> sprocket: when you say you cannot build any blocks, exactly what do you mean?
#1708 [19:48] <coyote> i cant get on line, without it saying I need to buy
#1709 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> coyote - What is your minecraft username?
#1710 [19:48] <WugPhone> coyote what is your account name
#1711 [19:48] <sprocket> we can left click and eliminate blocks, but when we right click it doesn't add like I think it is suppose to?
#1712 [19:49] <coyote> grant529
#1713 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> sprocket - Do you have the block selected in your bar at the bottom?
#1714 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> sprocket: do you have a block selected in your inventory hotbar?
#1715 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> coyote - We don't show that account as being premium. When did you pay for minecraft?
#1716 [19:49] <WugPhone> sprocket you have to select from your inventory. The full version does not have infinite blockd
#1717 [19:50] <coyote> 11-12-2011 for 21.95
#1718 [19:50] <WugPhone> ?? Senduser
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#1720 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> coyote - Could you do a http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename on all email addresses you normally use? It'll send back a email with all MC usernames that are attached to that address, including which ones are premium
#1721 [19:51] <sprocket> ok we'll try that
#1722 [19:51] <sprocket> thanks
#1723 [19:53] <WugPhone> Almost at my station
#1724 [19:53] <coyote> I did that and I got this back * grant529
#1725 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't say ( * premium ) after that.
#1726 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> Could you check your other email addresses you might have used?
#1727 [19:54] <WugPhone> Do you have a transaction reciept?
#1728 [19:54] <coyote> My son said he played it about 2 weeks ago and he could get on by browser
#1729 [19:54] <coyote> I already did and there were none there
#1730 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay for minecraft through minecraft.net?
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#1732 [19:55] <coyote> yes, transaction went through 11-14-2011 to mojang moneybookers for 21.95
#1733 [19:56] <WugPhone> coyote do you have cobalt as well?
#1734 [19:56] <coyote> cobalt?
#1735 [19:56] <WugPhone> Or was that fixed
#1736 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> I believe that was fixed
#1737 [19:56] <WugPhone> Well gtg train station
#1738 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> Cobalt is another game coming out by Mojang. Accounts migrated over to their system have a tendancy to get paid status mixed up
#1739 [19:56] <sprocket> we're on create your own world. where do you find blocks to build with?
#1740 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> It has recently been fixed
#1741 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> sprocket - Destroy blocks to get them
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#1743 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> sprocket - See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VWnQHS-ffs
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#1745 [19:58] <Guywhoneedshelp> HiLow! I needs teh help.
#1746 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Guywhoneedshelp - With?
#1747 [19:58] <Guywhoneedshelp> When I try to start up minecraft (I have to use a batch file) It says... 1sec
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#1749 [20:00] <coyote> when i purchased it was at reduced price, arent those acounts still open
#1750 [20:00] <Guywhoneedshelp> Exeption in thread "Minecraft main thread" java.lang.VerifyError the a bunch of other stuff including something that says incompatable
#1751 [20:00] <Guywhoneedshelp> Incompatable type for getting and setting field
#1752 [20:01] <Guywhoneedshelp> And ive already reinstalled minecraft and java
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#1754 [20:01] <Guywhoneedshelp> Still says the same thing
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#1757 [20:03] <AureliusM> Guywhoneedshelp: can you paste the whole error log into a pastebin and link it here?
#1758 [20:03] <Guywhoneedshelp> Erm
#1759 [20:04] <AureliusM> ??> Guywhoneedshelp pastebin
#1760 [20:04] <VoxelHead> Guywhoneedshelp: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1761 [20:04] <Guywhoneedshelp> Nope :/ Its in command prompt
#1762 [20:04] <AureliusM> Guywhoneedshelp: you can select all in command prompt window and then copy
#1763 [20:04] <mib_5wbcs5> can someone help me? Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 1/8/12 7:59 PM Minecraft: Minecraft 1.0.0 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.
#1764 [20:04] <Guywhoneedshelp> Oh :/ kk
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#1766 [20:05] <mib_5wbcs5> thats what happened
#1767 [20:05] <mib_5wbcs5> i need help for this bug
#1768 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Not a bug, update your video drivers
#1769 [20:05] <mib_5wbcs5> its already updated
#1770 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> How did you check?
#1771 [20:05] <AureliusM> Guywhoneedshelp: If Windows then : right mouse click the top left corner of the black command window, click select all, then right mouse click again and click copy, then got to the pastebin website and click control V there ....
#1772 [20:05] <mib_5wbcs5> directx 11
#1773 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft doesn't use directx
#1774 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> mib_5wbcs5 - Again, how did you check your video card's drivers were up to date?
#1775 [20:06] <mib_5wbcs5> then what does it use?
#1776 [20:06] <Guywhoneedshelp> AureliusM: http://pastebin.com/5FrvMHtz
#1777 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft uses OpenGL
#1778 [20:06] <mib_5wbcs5> oh, i have that
#1779 [20:07] <mib_5wbcs5> but the thing still appears when i run it
#1780 [20:07] <AureliusM> Guywhoneedshelp: Thanks, looking at it now
#1781 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Look, if you won't tell us how you checked your video drivers were up to date, I can't help you.
#1782 [20:07] <Guywhoneedshelp> K
#1783 [20:08] <mib_5wbcs5> how do you check if your video drivers are up to date?
#1784 [20:08] <AureliusM> Guywhoneedshelp: The exception is: java.lang.VerifyError: (class: adk, method: a signature: ()V) Incompatible type for getting or setting field
#1785 [20:08] <mib_5wbcs5> sorry, its just its my first time
#1786 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_5wbcs5 - Give us a dxdiag
#1787 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_5wbcs5 win/dxdiag
#1788 [20:08] <VoxelHead> mib_5wbcs5: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1789 [20:08] <VoxelHead> mib_5wbcs5: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1790 [20:09] <AureliusM> Guywhoneedshelp: did you uninstalling all Java and install Java 6?
#1791 [20:09] <Guywhoneedshelp> Yes
#1792 [20:09] <Guywhoneedshelp> Version 6 Update 30
#1793 [20:10] <AureliusM> Guywhoneedshelp: and the minecraft.jar came from minecraft.net/download ?
#1794 [20:11] <Guywhoneedshelp> Yes, but then I modded it O.o
#1795 [20:11] <AureliusM> Guywhoneedshelp: then you need to do Options Force Update to remove the mod changes
#1796 [20:11] <AureliusM> ??> Guywhoneedshelp forceupdate
#1797 [20:12] <VoxelHead> Guywhoneedshelp: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1798 [20:12] <VoxelHead> Guywhoneedshelp: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1799 [20:12] <Guywhoneedshelp> :( So the mods are the problem? Ive been able to play with them before
#1800 [20:13] <AureliusM> ??> Guywhoneedshelp mods
#1801 [20:13] <VoxelHead> Guywhoneedshelp: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1802 [20:13] <VoxelHead> Guywhoneedshelp: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1803 [20:13] <AureliusM> Guywhoneedshelp: after a force update you try to re-apply the mod and see it works, bust best is to go to the forum for that mod
#1804 [20:13] <AureliusM> Guywhoneedshelp: ignore my typos
#1805 [20:14] <Guywhoneedshelp> Hmm, question
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#1807 [20:15] <AureliusM> Guywhoneedshelp: fire away, I mean I use Optifine mod and have no problems, but also run vanilla unmodded when investigating bugs.
#1808 [20:15] <Guywhoneedshelp> I installed these mods before I even opened up the game (I uninstalled the game in the first place cause one of the mods I DLed screwed it up) Should I play the game then install mods?
#1809 [20:16] <AureliusM> Guywhoneedshelp: but the best person to support crashes with a modded minecraft is the mod author
#1810 [20:17] <Guywhoneedshelp> I mean would installing a mod prior to even opening up the game effect what happened?
#1811 [20:17] <AureliusM> Guywhoneedshelp: if it was me, I would first play the vanilla minecraft (unmodded) for a while to make sure there are no memory or video card problems, and then mod it. Better is to keep two minecraft folders, one for vanilla, the other for modded.
#1812 [20:18] <Guywhoneedshelp> Alright, thx.
#1813 [20:18] <AureliusM> Guywhoneedshelp: I always check minecraft freshly installed from minecraft.net before I do anything else.
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#1815 [20:19] <Guywhoneedshelp> Btw whats Optifire?
#1816 [20:19] <AureliusM> Guywhoneedshelp: Look up "set APPDATA" and minecraft to find examples of how to keep several minecraft inatallations separate, you need some basic computer knowledge of command lines, and folders and files
#1817 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/249637-100-optifine-hd-d3-fps-boost-hd-textures/
#1818 [20:19] * GreyVulpine points ^
#1818 [20:20] <AureliusM> I got ninja'd, see GreyVulpine's link
#1819 [20:21] <Guywhoneedshelp> Thx, and I have done that before, I put clay soldiers in one file (Not compatible with any other mod -,-) and the rest of them in another and I just drag and drop them when I need to switch out.
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#1821 [20:21] * AureliusM is still seeing people with the GL_ERROR post render "1285: Out of memory" problem but finding no definitive solution anywhere
#1821 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Usually a mod problem. I've seen that from people using hd texture packs that their computer can't support
#1822 [20:22] <AureliusM> the post render problem due to a mod?
#1823 [20:22] <Guywhoneedshelp> Kk thx for the help
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#1825 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> AureliusM - At least, I've seen mods cause it, yes.
#1826 [20:25] <AureliusM> I once got it in vanilla 1.0.0 Normal render distance default texture , but I was setting only 512M in my batch file
#1827 [20:25] <AureliusM> I tried to reproduce it yesterday for several hours in vanilla 1.0.0 maximum graphics settings but no luck
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#1830 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. I've seen people with 32 bit systems, trying to run 128x128 or 256x hd texture packs, have that problem
#1831 [20:26] <gakins> Bought the game for my sons laptop. The Video card isn't supported and I'd like a refund. Any options?
#1832 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Mojang's refund policy can be found at www.minecraft.net/support -- under payment -> refund
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#1834 [20:27] <quaddle> i get a black screen whenever i start minecraft i recently i downloded aether and i think i messed up the jar for minecraft
#1835 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> ??> quaddle forceupdate
#1836 [20:28] <VoxelHead> quaddle: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1837 [20:28] <VoxelHead> quaddle: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1838 [20:28] <gakins> Right.. says there isn't any refund because most issues can be resolved. However, unless I can get a workaround for this issue, I think a refund is warranted
#1839 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> gakins - As we're community-run support, we can do nothing about account issues here. You can try emailing mojang directly at help@mojang.com, but they've already clearly stated their refund policy
#1840 [20:29] <AureliusM> gakins: please give us your computer specs, maybe we can find a video card driver update that solves the problem
#1841 [20:29] <gakins> Thanks. I understand that refund.. but the policy also states most issues can be resolved, and it appears I am an exception
#1842 [20:30] <AureliusM> gakins: Windows?
#1843 [20:30] <quaddle> there isnt anything above log in button
#1844 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> quaddle - In the downloadable client
#1845 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> quaddle - http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png <-- see that
#1846 [20:32] <quaddle> ses my name quaddle.......
#1847 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> quaddle - Say what?
#1848 [20:33] <quaddle> yes my name quaddle
#1849 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> quaddle - Are you launching minecraft through the downloadable client?
#1850 [20:34] <quaddle> i am using in browser
#1851 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> quaddle - Mods don't work inbrowser
#1852 [20:34] <OH> Hi, im in creative mode, how do i power a cart and how to blow up tnt from a distance
#1853 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> quaddle - If you modded minecraft, you'll always need to launch it through the downloadable client at minecraft.net/download
#1854 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> OH - Powered rail, powered by redstone torches
#1855 [20:35] <OH> do i put tourches next to rail?
#1856 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> OH - Also, redstone wires with a torch or lever/button/pressure plate will power the wire to the TNT
#1857 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Yes oh
#1858 [20:35] <quaddle> well that explains the tons of mods that failed but i just want it to work again
#1859 [20:35] <AureliusM> OH: Or levers next to powered rail will work too
#1860 [20:35] <OH> oh ok
#1861 [20:35] <OH> kk thx
#1862 [20:36] <OH> just want to experiment b4 survival
#1863 [20:36] * AureliusM was ninja'd again
#1863 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> quaddle - Get the downloadable client at minecraft.net, launch it. Then do this: http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png
#1864 [20:37] <OH> i dont see restone wires?
#1865 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> redstone dust? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_Wire
#1866 [20:38] <quaddle> i found force update i can handle the rest myself
#1867 [20:38] <OH> ohhh dust ok
#1868 [20:40] <OH> sooo the cart wont move unless i push it and get on it?
#1869 [20:41] <OH> i put the restne rails and it wont move unless im outside pushing it then it darts away
#1870 [20:42] <gakins> AureliusM: Sorry.. I was responding to another email. Windows 7 .. It's a Toshiba L455-S5975
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#1872 [20:44] <mib_s1n2ch> Hello my minecraft keeps on frezzing after 5 to 10 minites of play
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#1875 [20:47] <mib_s1n2ch> Hello
#1876 [20:47] <mib_s1n2ch> my minecraft keeps on frezzing after 5 to 10 minites of play
#1877 [20:48] <AureliusM> ??> gakins win/dxdiag
#1878 [20:48] <VoxelHead> gakins: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1879 [20:48] <VoxelHead> gakins: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1880 [20:49] <AureliusM> gakins: I was away from IRC for a while myself, the win/dxdiag instructiins will get precise details of the GPU and its driver, this helps us find its capabilities and get up to date drivers
#1881 [20:50] <gakins> gist.github.com/1580527
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#1883 [20:52] <AureliusM> gakins: toshiba's spec sheet for that shows Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M
#1884 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Looks like there's updated video drivers for that card
#1885 [20:54] <mib_s1n2ch> Hello my minecraft keeps on frezzing after 5 to 10 minites of play
#1886 [20:55] <mib_s1n2ch> Can some1 help me Please
#1887 [20:55] <AureliusM> gakins: I suspect that Intel 4500M should support minecraft if it is allowed to run, are you getting the bad video driver error?
#1888 [20:55] <gakins> AureliusM: Sorry... I've done very little with graphics cards.
#1889 [20:56] <AureliusM> gakins: What error do you get when running minecraft?
#1890 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> gakins - Could you download and try installing these drivers: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20598&ProdId=2991&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20%2832-bit%29*&DownloadType=
#1891 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> (betting they won't work, since toshiba's going to block it)
#1892 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_s1n2ch - How does it freeze exactly?
#1893 [20:58] <AureliusM> Thanks Grey, I could not get through toshiba's site to find drivers
#1894 [20:58] <gakins> GreyVulpine: Thanks.. I'll try
#1895 [20:59] <gakins> AureliusM: The error is the "failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode"
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#1897 [20:59] <AureliusM> gakins: is there a display control panel that lets you select "Advanced" graphics for programs?
#1898 [20:59] <guywhoneedshelp> AureliusM
#1899 [21:01] <AureliusM> gakins: I've never used Intel graphics before, but this looks like it shows how to configure it: http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/cs-022130.htm
#1900 [21:01] <guywhoneedshelp> I would like to add something to your knowledge of Minecraft. I found out the problem, if you have Modloadermp installed and nothing using it it gives you teh msg.
#1901 [21:01] <guywhoneedshelp> That is all
#1902 [21:01] <guywhoneedshelp> Bais!
#1903 [21:04] <gakins> AureliusM: I'm not seeing it, if there is.
#1904 [21:04] <gakins> AureliusM: Looking in Control Panel, under Appareance / Display
#1905 [21:05] <gakins> Still downloading the exec found through GreyVulpine 's link
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#1907 [21:09] <AureliusM> gakins: I'm still searching various support forums for toshiba and Intel Graphics Media Accelerator, but only finding people with problems, for example: http://forums.toshiba.com/t5/Computer-Troubleshooting/instal-issue-with-Intel-R-Graphics-Media-Accelerator-Driver/td-p/29483
#1908 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Easy there. If those drivers don't work, we can try the zip file. If that still doesn't work, then pastebin link to the 256M batch
#1909 [21:11] <gakins> I'm rebooting after installing now.. Give me a minute
#1910 [21:15] <gakins> AureliusM: and GreyVulpine You guys rock! Thanks so much for your help. My son just gave me a big hug and said "You're the best" I gave you all the credit:-)
#1911 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> It worked?
#1912 [21:15] <gakins> Yep
#1913 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> Heh, good to hear.
#1914 [21:19] * AureliusM just returned from reading toshiba forums and missed the excitement
#1914 [21:20] <AureliusM> So the drivers from intel installed Ok on the toshiba? Toshiba did not block the drivers?
#1915 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> Apparently they didn't block it
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#1917 [21:26] <jasper> i just got the game and cant seem to mine any sort of stone or ore and was wondering if thatsa a bug if if it has somthing to do with the leveling system?
#1918 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> jasper - You need wood to make a wooden pickaxe. With wooden pickaxes, you can mine stone and get stone blocks. With stone pickaxes, you can mine iron. With iron, you can mine diamond and other ores
#1919 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Pickaxe
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#1921 [21:34] <jasper> thnx
#1922 [21:35] <dragovi> How can i speed up Minecraft?
#1923 [21:36] <AureliusM> dragovi: Graphics Fast, reduce render distance,
#1924 [21:36] <dragovi> did all that
#1925 [21:36] <dragovi> is normal ok?
#1926 [21:36] <AureliusM> dragovi: what graphics card do you have?
#1927 [21:36] <dragovi> wait, checking
#1928 [21:36] <AureliusM> dragovi: se Render distance to short to increase the frame rate
#1929 [21:37] <dragovi> I don't care about frame rate, i just want to speed up mc
#1930 [21:37] <dragovi> k wait, telling you specs in a bit
#1931 [21:37] <AureliusM> dragovi: ? you mean run and mine faster?
#1932 [21:37] <dragovi> no.
#1933 [21:37] <dragovi> so it's not choppy
#1934 [21:38] <AureliusM> dragovi: that's frame rate and also interruptions in the frame rate
#1935 [21:38] <dragovi> 894 mbs of ram,
#1936 [21:38] <AureliusM> dragovi: we need your specs, can you do a dxdiag for us?
#1937 [21:38] <dragovi> i am dxdiaging right now
#1938 [21:38] <AureliusM> dragovi: ah, ok, wait, you'll need to use a batch file with that little memory
#1939 [21:39] <dragovi> i'm getting an imac however so you won't see me here later
#1940 [21:39] <AureliusM> dragovi: To use less memory: http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#1941 [21:39] <dragovi> in a few months
#1942 [21:39] <dragovi> wait
#1943 [21:39] <dragovi> so what does it do?
#1944 [21:39] <dragovi> can i copy the dxdiag stats?
#1945 [21:40] <dragovi> some how?
#1946 [21:40] <AureliusM> dragovi: if you only have 894 MB of RAM, Java will use all of that and try to grab more, causing "disk thrashing"
#1947 [21:40] <dragovi> oh
#1948 [21:40] <dragovi> what is that?
#1949 [21:40] <AureliusM> ??> dragovi dxdiag
#1950 [21:40] <dragovi> 8bitbin!
#1951 [21:40] <dragovi> ben
#1952 [21:41] <dragovi> ok how do i copy the dxdiag stats?
#1953 [21:41] <AureliusM> dragovi; Do a dxdiag and paste the results in a pastebin, instructions follow from VoxelHead:
#1954 [21:41] <AureliusM> ??> dragovi pastebin
#1955 [21:41] <VoxelHead> dragovi: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1956 [21:41] <dragovi> but I can't copy my dxdiag stats!
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#1958 [21:42] <dragovi> nvm
#1959 [21:42] <dragovi> wait
#1960 [21:42] <flash1133> hey GreyVulpine
#1961 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#1962 [21:42] <AureliusM> dragovi: to copy the text from the dxdiag.txt log file, open the file in Notepad, click Edit select all, and click copy
#1963 [21:42] <dragovi> wait
#1964 [21:43] <dragovi> doing it now
#1965 [21:43] <flash1133> what is the name of the program you use to remote access someones computer again?
#1966 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> teamviweer
#1967 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> er, teamviewer, even
#1968 [21:43] <flash1133> ok thanks
#1969 [21:44] <dragovi> http://pastebin.com/1nAwmEXz
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#1971 [21:45] <AureliusM> dragovi: ok, that dxdiag has Vista and only 894 physical RAM, that's very low, but it's possible to work with
#1972 [21:46] <AureliusM> dragovi: first, have you disabled the Aero feature of Vista?
#1973 [21:46] <dragovi> oh, no, i thought it would fck up my colours
#1974 [21:46] <AureliusM> dragovi: also first, follow GreyVulpine's instructions here: http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#1975 [21:47] <AureliusM> dragovi: that will set up a batch file that runs minecraft with only 256 MB heap space, which is better than the default 1024 MB
#1976 [21:47] <dragovi> but then won't it run slower?
#1977 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't say "better", but it'll try to launch minecraft with less heap, on computers that don't have much RAM to start with.
#1978 [21:48] <AureliusM> dragovi: I had Vista with twice your RAM and had great problems, I disabled Aero as that saved 256 MB
#1979 [21:48] <dragovi> Oh wowo
#1980 [21:48] <dragovi> wow*
#1981 [21:48] <dragovi> how are the colours though?
#1982 [21:48] <AureliusM> dragovi: also, you will need to close all unneeded applications
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#1984 [21:49] <AureliusM> dragovi: colours stay the same at 32 bit - do not change colour or resolution,
#1985 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> Colours are fine. Aero just makes things prettier, at the cost of RAM and system resources
#1986 [21:49] <dragovi> oh i see
#1987 [21:49] <AureliusM> dragovi: first do the batch file solution, later we'll try to disable Aero if it's still choppy
#1988 [21:49] <dragovi> what do you mean by "prettier"?
#1989 [21:51] <AureliusM> dragovi: here's what I did: disabled Aero; disabled most of the bloatware HP put on their machines; switched to Classic theme, disabled desktop animations; close all browsers before launching minecraft.
#1990 [21:51] <dragovi> I can't do the batch file solution, i have 2 or 3 mods!
#1991 [21:51] <dragovi> i disabled all the bloatware
#1992 [21:51] <AureliusM> dragovi: you need to forceupdate first then. Or live with the choppiness. Are the mods HD texture packs?
#1993 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> The batch file will run minecraft with mods, it won't touch them
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#1995 [21:52] <dragovi> nope, humans+ and weapons
#1996 [21:52] <AureliusM> dragovi: ah yes, forget my last, GreyVulpine's right I forgot
#1997 [21:52] <dragovi> so i guess disabling Aero is my only hope?
#1998 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Also, aero does stuff like this: http://res1.windows.microsoft.com/resbox/en/Windows%20Vista/main/d06a7aed-cff4-443c-aac1-a602c9fa9e92_16.png
#1999 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> See the title bar's slight transparency with aero.
#2000 [21:53] <AureliusM> dragovi: have you downloaded minecraft.jar as specified in that pastebin ?
#2001 [21:53] <dragovi> i saw the aero difference
#2002 [21:54] <dragovi> ok thanks for your help guys, I'll disable aero and do other stuff to improve the comps performance.
#2003 [21:54] <dragovi> Bye!
#2004 [21:54] <dragovi> Bye!
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#2009 [22:08] <flash1133> hey i open up my minecraft, click multiplayer and join, it connects and a second later minecraft just exes out
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#2011 [22:10] <flash1133> hey i open up my minecraft, click multiplayer and join, it connects and a second later minecraft just exes out
#2012 [22:10] <Bluekeegan1> hello
#2013 [22:11] <flash1133> GreyVulpine?
#2014 [22:12] <flash1133> Kealper?
#2015 [22:13] <flash1133> Scott?
#2016 [22:14] <flash1133> Can Somebody PLEASE help me!!!
#2017 [22:14] * Scott kicked flash1133 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: lash1133 :Highlighting ops != getting help.)
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#2019 [22:14] <flash1133> Scott i need help
#2020 [22:15] <Scott> Good for you.
#2021 [22:15] <flash1133> i was highlighting ops because nobody has been helping me
#2022 [22:15] <flash1133> not to be a loser
#2023 [22:15] <flash1133> i open up my minecraft, click multiplayer and join, it connects and a second later minecraft just exes out
#2024 [22:16] <flash1133> Scott r u op can u help??
#2025 [22:17] <Bluekeegan1> flash is making me mad help him :P
#2026 [22:18] <Bluekeegan1> :P
#2027 [22:18] <Bluekeegan1> :D
#2028 [22:18] <Bluekeegan1> D:
#2029 [22:18] <Bluekeegan1> XD
#2030 [22:18] <Bluekeegan1> :(
#2031 [22:19] <Bluekeegan1> have mixed emotion about you :P :D :P
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#2034 [22:22] <WugTop> BOOYAH
#2035 [22:22] <WugTop> Wugbot is undergoing an operation and will likely be back online shortly
#2036 [22:22] <Bluekeegan1> wait dude can you still see now di it go black? tyour screen is black? yes ok nver mind
#2037 [22:23] <WugTop> i.e. when I came back and tried to restart it, it wouldnt post
#2038 [22:23] <WugTop> its posting again but its disassembled and all of the memory and pci cards are all over the floor
#2039 [22:24] <Bluekeegan1> i open minecraft, it shows connecting to server, i connect and then minecraft quits. HELP plese!
#2040 [22:25] <Bluekeegan1> nevermind. NOBODY HELPS HERE >:(
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#2045 [22:43] <jessejame> how come when i try to pay with my visa it then asks me for my moneybookers account and password?
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#2047 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Because moneybookers is what Mojang uses to process credit card payments. You can choose from other services like Paypal, if you have that
#2048 [22:45] <jessejame> oh. do i have to have money in my paypal account to do that or can i pay with my visa still?
#2049 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Paypal can process credit cards as well, or you can tie in a bank account, or use a paypal balance
#2050 [22:46] <jessejame> okay. thanks a lot!
#2051 [22:46] <jessejame> take it easy!
#2052 [22:47] <jessejame> why does paypal change it to euros?
#2053 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Because Minecraft is in euros. Paypal does the conversion for you to your native currency transparently.
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#2062 [23:43] <Col_Sera_> Can someone help me I cant run minecraft but all my drivers are updated and I don't know what to do.
#2063 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you run minecraft?
#2064 [23:43] <Col_Sera_> Hold on I will pull it up and copy it.
#2065 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> If you get a long error message, please post it at www.pastebin.cmo
#2066 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> com*
#2067 [23:44] <Col_Sera_> Ok
#2068 [23:44] <Col_Sera_> I will just post the important part
#2069 [23:44] <Col_Sera_> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#2070 [23:44] <Col_Sera_> that is what it says
#2071 [23:45] <Col_Sera_> but I already updated my video card drivers.
#2072 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> How did you update your video card drivers?
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#2074 [23:45] <Col_Sera_> I did it from the windows thing and my computer friend gave me a bunch of sites but still no minecraft.
#2075 [23:46] <Col_Sera_> I know they are up to date so I dont know what to do now.
#2076 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Col_Sera_ - Windows will never give you the latest video drivers
#2077 [23:46] <Col_Sera_> Really/
#2078 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Col_Sera_ - Could you give us a dxdiag? This will provide us with more information about your computer, including what video card you have
#2079 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Col_Sera_ - Yes, really.
#2080 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> ??> Col_Sera_ win/dxdiag
#2081 [23:46] <VoxelHead> Col_Sera_: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2082 [23:46] <VoxelHead> Col_Sera_: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2084 [23:47] <Col_Sera_> ok hold on
#2085 [23:48] <Col_Sera_> How do i press win+R key?
#2086 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Col_Sera_ - Look at your keyboard, in the lower left, you should see two keys, a ctrl and alt. Between them, you'll see a button with the windows logo on it. That's your windows key
#2087 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Press the windows and the R key at the same time to bring up a Run command
#2088 [23:49] <Col_Sera_> oh ok
#2089 [23:50] <Col_Sera_> ok I got it saved to my desk top
#2090 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Please follow the rest of the directions
#2091 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#2092 [23:51] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2093 [23:51] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2094 [23:51] <Col_Sera_> ok
#2095 [23:52] <Wug> GreyVulpine:
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#2097 [23:52] <Wug> ;doop
#2098 [23:52] <WugBot> Wug: ping
#2099 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Wugbot lives!
#2100 [23:52] <Col_Sera_> Do I save it?
#2101 [23:52] <Wug> it might have lost some of its database because it crashed
#2102 [23:53] <Wug> but probably not much
#2103 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Col_Sera_ - Save what?
#2104 [23:53] <Col_Sera_> on the site do I hit save?
#2105 [23:53] <Col_Sera_> oops submit
#2106 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> On the site, you hit submit
#2107 [23:53] <Col_Sera_> ok
#2108 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the http:// address
#2109 [23:53] <Ketsueki> it'll have some extra numbers at the end; which is how you know it worked
#2110 [23:53] <Col_Sera_> http://pastebin.com/T7VvYZ2d
#2111 [23:53] <Col_Sera_> there it is
#2112 [23:54] <Ketsueki> Woah, that's... pretty old and way low on ram for minecraft.
#2113 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Good god that is an old computer.
#2114 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> One moment
#2115 [23:54] <Ketsueki> Col_Sera_: I can tell looking at your 'gpu' there is no hope for this computer to run minecraft.
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#2117 [23:55] <Col_Sera_> I did it before I had windows sp
#2118 [23:55] <Col_Sera_> xp
#2119 [23:55] <Col_Sera_> I had linux mint and it worked fine.
#2120 [23:55] <Ketsueki> It ran /minecraft/ just fine?
#2121 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> Col_Sera_ - Try running minecraft with these instructions: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#2122 [23:56] <Col_Sera_> Yea really good
#2123 [23:56] <Ketsueki> (I ///seriously/// doubt that... what version of it were you running at the time?)
#2124 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> The 915 can run minecraft, but you'd be lucky to get double digit FPS out of it
#2125 [23:56] <Col_Sera_> what version of what?
#2126 [23:56] <Ketsueki> nevermind; try GreyVulpine's directions
#2127 [23:57] <Col_Sera_> ok hold on
#2128 [23:57] <Wug> wug.me liiiiives
#2129 [23:58] <Col_Sera_> when I put that site in it take me to google on weird links
#2130 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> Col_Sera_ - To http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh ?