#1 [00:00] <CrusaderDeleters> me
#2 [00:00] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm on
#3 [00:00] <CrusaderDeleters> leaper? What you need?
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#5 [00:01] <mib_unksk8> hello
#6 [00:01] <mib_unksk8> i need help
#7 [00:01] <mib_unksk8> i looking dopeghote
#8 [00:02] <mib_unksk8> gohti
#9 [00:02] <mib_unksk8> someone named jackson341 said he can help me
#10 [00:03] <[1]Jackson413> .
#11 [00:04] <[1]Jackson413> derp
#12 [00:04] <[1]Jackson413> derp
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#17 [00:04] <Jackson413> k?
#18 [00:05] <mib_unksk8> hey y
#19 [00:05] <mib_unksk8> u
#20 [00:05] <mib_unksk8> hey yeah so i noticed something
#21 [00:05] <mib_unksk8> my launcher isnt right
#22 [00:06] <mib_unksk8> damn it dont u go afk on me now
#23 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell us exactly what is wrong?
#24 [00:06] <mib_unksk8> yeah it wont launch
#25 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> "Won't launch" how?
#26 [00:06] <mib_unksk8> it keeps saying cant connect to minecraft.net
#27 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> Are you using classic or premium? Are you using the inbrowser client or the downloadable version?
#28 [00:07] <Jackson413> ohai sluggo
#29 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_unksk8 - Has it ever worked before?
#30 [00:07] <mib_unksk8> premium
#31 [00:07] <mib_unksk8> no
#32 [00:07] <mib_unksk8> and both
#33 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_unksk8 - Do you get a news feed in the downloadable version?
#34 [00:07] <mib_unksk8> broswer just stops
#35 [00:07] <mib_unksk8> at updating
#36 [00:07] <Jackson413> Grey
#37 [00:07] <Jackson413> hold on
#38 [00:07] <Jackson413> mib_unksk8, are you sluggo?
#39 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_unksk8 - How far in the updating progress bar do you get?
#40 [00:07] <mib_unksk8> yeah im that guy
#41 [00:08] <mib_unksk8> lol al the wat till abt almost there
#42 [00:08] <Jackson413> Grey, i tried deleting his .minecraft folder
#43 [00:08] <mib_unksk8> yeah
#44 [00:08] <Jackson413> check firewalls
#45 [00:08] <mib_unksk8> and it frezzes
#46 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> Windows, I take it?
#47 [00:08] <Jackson413> no av software whatsoever
#48 [00:08] <mib_unksk8> but my launcher
#49 [00:08] <Jackson413> yeah win 7 64x
#50 [00:08] <mib_unksk8> its not like the ones on saw on youtube
#51 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - Did you check his windows username/
#52 [00:08] <Jackson413> his launcher gives him the error, cannot connect to minecraft.net
#53 [00:08] <Jackson413> what do you mean windows username
#54 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> Yes, I understand that part.
#55 [00:08] <Jackson413> i verified that he has paid
#56 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> I mean, what is his username in windows?
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#58 [00:09] <Jackson413> Something about a fat cat i think
#59 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> The account that he uses to log into windows
#60 [00:09] <mib_unksk8> yep lol
#61 [00:09] <Jackson413> "Dats a fat cat"?
#62 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_unksk8 - Could you please go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#63 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> Press enter. Tell me the name of the folder it takes you to
#64 [00:09] <Jackson413> there is only one account
#65 [00:09] * GreyVulpine bets it ends in !
#65 [00:10] <Jackson413> it ends in !!!
#66 [00:10] <Jackson413> i think
#67 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> That would be why then
#68 [00:10] * GreyVulpine would like to confirm
#68 [00:10] <Jackson413> whaddya mean
#69 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_unksk8 - You still there?
#70 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> ??>> Jackson413 win/!
#71 [00:11] <Jackson413> I TEAMVIEWED HIM AND I DIDNT SEE ANYTHING WRONG
#72 [00:11] <Jackson413> oh i have caps on
#73 [00:11] * GreyVulpine grumbles
#73 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> mib_unksk8 - Hello?
#74 [00:11] * Jackson413 has an idear
#74 [00:11] <Jackson413> lets spam his name!
#75 [00:12] <Jackson413> hey Grey do you know java?
#76 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> A bit
#77 [00:12] <Jackson413> enough to make a plugin?
#78 [00:12] <Jackson413> im looking to hire someone
#79 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Nah, would take me too long to get up to speed.
#80 [00:13] <Jackson413> ah ok
#81 [00:13] <Jackson413> any recommendations?
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#83 [00:13] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#83 [00:13] <Jackson413> lol
#84 [00:14] <Jackson413> am i the only one that finds mibbit annoyint?
#85 [00:14] <oldtopman> No.
#86 [00:15] <Jackson413> ok 2 people
#87 [00:15] <Jackson413> :D
#88 [00:15] <Jackson413> grey care to balence some chemical equations for me?
#89 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> ...
#90 [00:15] <Jackson413> yeah can't figure it out
#91 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> Shoot
#92 [00:16] <Jackson413> wait serious?
#93 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#94 [00:16] <Jackson413> hold on
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#96 [00:16] <kermie> jackson?
#97 [00:17] <kermie> jackson?
#98 [00:17] <kermie> grey?
#99 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#100 [00:17] <kermie> yeah i wast that last guy
#101 [00:17] <kermie> that jackson was talking abt
#102 [00:18] <Jackson413> AlBr3+K2SO4=KBr+Al2(SO4)3
#103 [00:18] <kermie> no
#104 [00:18] <Jackson413> yes?
#105 [00:18] <kermie> to man br on the left
#106 [00:18] <kermie> many
#107 [00:18] <Jackson413> lolwut
#108 [00:18] <kermie> need 2kbr
#109 [00:18] <kermie> no
#110 [00:18] <Jackson413> yeah that still isnt balanced
#111 [00:19] <kermie> yeah i didnt see al
#112 [00:19] <kermie> 6kbr?
#113 [00:19] <kermie> no
#114 [00:19] <kermie> nvm
#115 [00:19] <kermie> anyway
#116 [00:19] <kermie> any ideas
#117 [00:20] <Jackson413> yeah
#118 [00:20] <Jackson413> you have !'s in your profile name\
#119 [00:20] <kermie> yeah why
#120 [00:20] <Jackson413> 2 AlBr3 + 3 K2SO4 = 6 KBr + Al2(SO4)3
#121 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - 2AlBr3 + 3K2SO4 =
#122 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> ^
#123 [00:20] <kermie> o was i right!
#124 [00:20] <Jackson413> i think im getting it
#125 [00:20] <Jackson413> holy crap
#126 [00:21] * GreyVulpine used to love his AP chem back in high school.
#126 [00:21] <Jackson413> im a physics guy
#127 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> Too many years ago.
#128 [00:21] <kermie> dito
#129 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> Hated physics
#130 [00:21] <Jackson413> <future engineer
#131 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> <- Comp Sci
#132 [00:21] <kermie> what does ! have to dp with anythinh
#133 [00:21] <kermie> electrical
#134 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> kermie - ! is a programming symbol. Java parses !\ as part of your C:\users\username!\appdata\.minecraft\ path
#135 [00:22] <Jackson413> Grey, you have the floor for this one too!
#136 [00:22] <kermie> so delete !
#137 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Won't help
#138 [00:22] <kermie> so?
#139 [00:22] <Jackson413> doesnt change the path
#140 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Deleting ! as part of your windows username does not change the folder's path
#141 [00:23] <Jackson413> just appearence
#142 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> You have two options. Either make a new windows name that doesn't have a !, or use our workaround
#143 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> ??> kermie win/!
#144 [00:23] <VoxelHead> kermie: (win/!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#145 [00:23] <VoxelHead> kermie: (win/!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#146 [00:24] <kermie> so do i make a new windows name
#147 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> Or use our workaround
#148 [00:24] <kermie> i how how
#149 [00:24] <kermie> i mean how*
#150 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> How what?
#151 [00:24] <Jackson413> what is a voxel?
#152 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> 3d pixel
#153 [00:24] <kermie> make a new name is that like making another profile
#154 [00:25] <Jackson413> grey where did you go to college and for what?
#155 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> Comp sci, mich state
#156 [00:25] <Jackson413> cool
#157 [00:25] <Jackson413> like the wolverines?
#158 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> That's michigan. Michigan state is the spartans
#159 [00:25] <Jackson413> or the spartans
#160 [00:25] <Jackson413> ahhh ok
#161 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> kermie - If you want to make a new windows account, you'll need to do it in the control panel of windwos
#162 [00:26] <kermie> so how do i make a new window name
#163 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> windows*
#164 [00:26] <Jackson413> im a future osu student
#165 [00:26] <kermie> ok and is a tottaly new account
#166 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#167 [00:26] <kermie> so how do make that one admstrative
#168 [00:27] <kermie> o butched that word
#169 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> You can do that in the user accounts wizard
#170 [00:27] <Jackson413> were you a history freak like me by chance?
#171 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> Wasn't that much.
#172 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> I was a computer geek, through and through.
#173 [00:28] <kermie> ty ill try it out
#174 [00:28] <Jackson413> lol
#175 [00:28] <Jackson413> what languages did you learn computer-wise?
#176 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> C/C++ mainly, with a dabbling of java/C#, some VB.net on the side.
#177 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> Had some fun with RISC/SPARC ASM while in college.
#178 [00:30] <Jackson413> vb?
#179 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> visual basic.
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#181 [00:31] <Jackson413> i thought you said something about vBulletin lol
#182 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> Erm, no.
#183 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> \
#184 [00:31] <Jackson413> is that a hard language
#185 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> VBulletin?
#186 [00:31] <Jackson413> vb.netr
#187 [00:31] <Jackson413> .net\
#188 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> Nah, not at all.
#189 [00:31] <Jackson413> ugh cant type
#190 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> Less powerful than C.
#191 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> VB's great for doing GUIs, scripting, tying in spreadsheets and stuff.
#192 [00:32] <dylanbarberdude> (-) I
#193 [00:32] <dylanbarberdude> (-) I
#194 [00:32] <dylanbarberdude> Eyes!
#195 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> It has its uses, but it isn't a language you use for anything that you want speed or granularity for.
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#197 [00:33] <mib_vie4o8> sob
#198 [00:33] <mib_vie4o8> jackson
#199 [00:33] <mib_vie4o8> how do u up date drivers
#200 [00:33] <Jackson413> uh
#201 [00:33] <mib_vie4o8> the ! was the problem
#202 [00:34] <dylanbarberdude> [ (-) I
#203 [00:34] <Jackson413> ask grey im doing chem hw
#204 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> dylanbarberdude - Please stop that
#205 [00:34] <Jackson413> lol
#206 [00:34] <dylanbarberdude> Ok Sorry
#207 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_vie4o8 - Got teamviewer?
#208 [00:34] <mib_vie4o8> grey with your all might wisdom how do u up date drviers
#209 [00:34] <mib_vie4o8> lol
#210 [00:34] <mib_vie4o8> yep
#211 [00:34] <Jackson413> [ (-) I? What does that even mean??
#212 [00:34] <dylanbarberdude> Okey Dokey
#213 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> PM me your teamviewer info
#214 [00:34] <mib_vie4o8> send me the link plz
#215 [00:35] <Jackson413> http://teamviewer.com
#216 [00:35] <mib_vie4o8> i had it i x out 1 sec
#217 [00:35] <dylanbarberdude> x2 of them makes a face in my font
#218 [00:35] <Jackson413> ??> mib_vie4o8 teamvieqwer
#219 [00:35] <Jackson413> ??> mib_vie4o8 teamviewer
#220 [00:35] <VoxelHead> mib_vie4o8: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#221 [00:35] <VoxelHead> mib_vie4o8: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#222 [00:35] <Jackson413> im learing voxelese
#223 [00:36] <mib_vie4o8> how do messege
#224 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> /msg GreyVulpine stuff
#225 [00:36] <Jackson413> ./msg USER MESSAGE
#226 [00:37] <mib_vie4o8> did u get it
#227 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#229 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> Still there mib_vie4o8?
#230 [00:39] <tyteen4a03> Valerie: hello hongkonger
#231 [00:39] <mib_vie4o8> yep
#232 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> Can't seem to click on anything
#233 [00:40] <Valerie> tyteen4a03, hello
#234 [00:41] <tyteen4a03> Valerie: just so you know, we're on the same IPS :P
#235 [00:41] <Valerie> ahh HKBN
#236 [00:41] <Valerie> 69 hkd this month for me
#237 [00:41] <tyteen4a03> Valerie: I use the 1000Mbps plan and it was like $2xx
#238 [00:41] <dylanbarberdude> Valerie Why are you famous?
#239 [00:42] <Valerie> 100 Mbps plan here
#240 [00:42] <Valerie> I have no idea dylan
#241 [00:42] <Jackson413> famous o.O
#242 [00:42] <dylanbarberdude> Something about mods...
#243 [00:42] <Valerie> I switched to HKBN after Netvigator proved to be a bunch of money-grubbing assholes with shitty customer service
#244 [00:42] <dylanbarberdude> I think
#245 [00:43] <Valerie> and iCable's internet service is simply crappy
#246 [00:43] <Valerie> with frequent outages
#247 [00:43] <tyteen4a03> Valerie: Netvigator do have nice overseas network, but the price is ugh
#248 [00:43] <Valerie> I remembered when there was a quake in Taiwan
#249 [00:43] <Valerie> I went a full month without internet because of that
#250 [00:43] <tyteen4a03> iCable is the tumor of Hong Kong's internet service
#251 [00:44] <tyteen4a03> Valerie: lol, I almost never see hong kong people on irc
#252 [00:45] <Valerie> hehe
#253 [00:45] <Valerie> I like living in here
#254 [00:45] <tyteen4a03> Valerie: so that implies you are not chinese?
#255 [00:46] <Valerie> pinoy
#256 [00:46] <tyteen4a03> I see
#257 [00:47] <gPad2002> Pinoy?
#258 [00:47] <gPad2002> Pony?
#259 [00:47] <tyteen4a03> Flippion
#260 [00:47] <tyteen4a03> *Flippino
#261 [00:47] <Valerie> from the phillipines
#262 [00:47] <tyteen4a03> do you speak cantonese?
#263 [00:47] <Valerie> not too much
#264 [00:48] <Valerie> I don't speak tagalog or biscaya either
#265 [00:49] <Valerie> brb need a reboot
#266 [00:49] <tyteen4a03> gPad2002: someday I can organize a RL hangout for HK peeps :P
#267 [00:49] <gPad2002> Lol
#268 [00:50] <gPad2002> A no-TA TA party
#269 [00:50] <gPad2002> :P
#270 [00:50] <tyteen4a03> but unfortunately a lot of them are on the cracked version
#271 [00:50] <gPad2002> Aw
#272 [00:50] <tyteen4a03> because they mostly don't have stuff like bank accounts and credit cards
#273 [00:51] <tyteen4a03> those just aren't popular among teens here
#274 [00:51] <gPad2002> Wait
#275 [00:51] <gPad2002> What
#276 [00:51] <gPad2002> Why not?
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#278 [00:51] <gPad2002> Bank account is a necessity IMO >.>
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#280 [00:52] <tyteen4a03> low pocket money I guess
#281 [00:52] <gPad2002> Credit cards I get though
#282 [00:52] <gPad2002> Heck, I don't even have one
#283 [00:52] <gPad2002> Not that they'll give me one or anything though
#284 [00:52] <CheeseN1P> Any one online answering questions?
#285 [00:52] <tyteen4a03> CheeseN1P: Yes?
#286 [00:52] <gPad2002> That depends on the question, CheeseN1P
#287 [00:52] <tyteen4a03> they don't earn money, and pocket money are usually on a per-day basis
#288 [00:53] <gPad2002> That's so whacky..
#289 [00:53] <CheeseN1P> Mine craft keeps crashing, and its not giveing me alot to go off of.
#290 [00:53] <frogonia> HELP! I have been playing the free version for a long time today, and I just BOUGHT the game. I want to save the "free" game I was playing, but it wont let me.
#291 [00:53] <gPad2002> frogonia: You don't lose the free version
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#293 [00:53] <tyteen4a03> frogonia: Minecraft classic is not compatible with Mincraft full, if that's what you mean
#294 [00:53] <frogonia> gpad2002, how do i get to save that world?
#295 [00:54] <CheeseN1P> Heres a fourm post about the crashing, hopefully some one can help me out Im at a loss
#296 [00:54] <Valerie> back
#297 [00:54] <CheeseN1P> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/934597-crashing-wo-error/
#298 [00:54] <gPad2002> frogonia: The free game is a totally separate game
#299 [00:54] <tyteen4a03> so unless they try hard enough to save them up (which for me, I don't :P) a bank account's pretty much useless
#300 [00:54] <gPad2002> But but but interest
#301 [00:54] <tyteen4a03> you don't get interest unless you save up $1000 HKD or something
#302 [00:55] <Valerie> hong kong banks don't offer great interest unless you save up to 10k or 20k hkd
#303 [00:55] <gPad2002> That isn't a lot though?
#304 [00:55] <gPad2002> Oh
#305 [00:55] <gPad2002> Ok, maybe it is
#306 [00:55] <frogonia> gpad2002, so you are saying that now that I am a paying member, i can't save the game? When I tried to save the file (before I had paid), it said I had to pay up in order to be able to save it. So I paid.
#307 [00:55] <Valerie> not too much
#308 [00:55] <gPad2002> frogonia: Oh, you were playing the demo?
#309 [00:55] <Valerie> considering that the average wage of HK residents is 12k HKD per month
#310 [00:56] <tyteen4a03> I only open a bank account to hook to paypal
#311 [00:56] <frogonia> gpad2002, yes, I was on minecraft.net and playing
#312 [00:56] <gPad2002> frogonia: Uh? This is new
#313 [00:56] <tyteen4a03> ?? demo
#314 [00:56] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#315 [00:56] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#316 [00:56] <gPad2002> I've never heard of that
#317 [00:57] <gPad2002> tyteen4a03: No no
#318 [00:57] <tyteen4a03> frogonia: minecraft.net/classic/play?
#319 [00:57] <frogonia> tyteen, minecraft.net / singleplayer
#320 [00:57] <gPad2002> Which singleplayer?
#321 [00:58] <gPad2002> Classic or release?
#322 [00:58] <frogonia> classic
#323 [00:58] <gPad2002> Ah right
#324 [00:58] <gPad2002> Well, two things
#325 [00:58] <gPad2002> Firstly, no, I don't think you can retrieve that world
#326 [00:58] <frogonia> yes....
#327 [00:59] <frogonia> :( very sad
#328 [00:59] <gPad2002> Secondly, you also just bought a much newer version of the game
#329 [00:59] <frogonia> I still have it open on my system.... I want to save it.
#330 [00:59] <frogonia> yes, 2nd part is also the reason I bought it. the newer version is WAY better.
#331 [00:59] <gPad2002> Including infinite worlds, crafting, monsters..
#332 [00:59] <gPad2002> Mm
#333 [01:00] <gPad2002> Then you'll understand that moving a world from one to the other is a very difficult task in itself
#334 [01:00] <frogonia> My friend has the PAY version... I love it.
#335 [01:00] <frogonia> yes, like moving a DOS game to a Windows game with the click of a button.
#336 [01:00] <frogonia> wouldn't be too easy to do that...
#337 [01:00] <tyteen4a03> ??> CheeseN1P forceupdate
#338 [01:00] <VoxelHead> CheeseN1P: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#339 [01:00] <VoxelHead> CheeseN1P: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#340 [01:00] <frogonia> and maintain the integrity and all.
#341 [01:01] <gPad2002> Ish
#342 [01:02] <gPad2002> Anyway, the world you're playing isn't actually kept anywhere
#343 [01:02] <gPad2002> The way classic worked
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#345 [01:02] <gPad2002> Was that you would save maps and they were uploaded to Mtch's servers
#346 [01:02] <gPad2002> Notch*
#347 [01:02] <CheeseN1P> this clears out my .minecraft with default?
#348 [01:02] <gPad2002> It was removed for everyone and given back to the people who ore-purchased the game
#349 [01:02] <gPad2002> Pre*
#350 [01:02] <tyteen4a03> CheeseN1P: It only redownloads the bin folder
#351 [01:03] <tyteen4a03> CheeseN1P: removing mods
#352 [01:03] <CheeseN1P> Okay, Ive done stuff like this before, dosent seem to do anything Ill try tho
#353 [01:04] <tyteen4a03> CheeseN1P: Can you also remove any texture packs you have?
#354 [01:04] <frogonia> gPad2002, so there really really is NO way to save my world? I have worked very hard on it
#355 [01:04] <CheeseN1P> Im running 100% default as of now
#356 [01:04] <gPad2002> I'm afraid not
#357 [01:04] <LuckyTherteen> I downloaded and installed a mod on minecraft, and I already had ModLoader installed on it. Then Minecraft crashed and said it was because of ModLoader. Can you help me get the game up and running again?
#358 [01:04] <gPad2002> Sorry
#359 [01:04] <tyteen4a03> ??> LuckyTherteen forceupdate
#360 [01:04] <VoxelHead> LuckyTherteen: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#361 [01:04] <VoxelHead> LuckyTherteen: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#362 [01:04] <gPad2002> LuckyTherteen: Force update, install mod loader again
#363 [01:05] <gPad2002> Then instead of putting mods into the jar
#364 [01:05] <gPad2002> Put them in the mods/ folder
#365 [01:05] <LuckyTherteen> Okay. Thank you!
#366 [01:08] <frogonia> I guess I will have to do some screenprints so I can remember my old world... and maybe have a memorial service or something.
#367 [01:08] <frogonia> :)
#368 [01:08] <CheeseN1P> Frog, Ill be youll generate better ones
#369 [01:08] <tyteen4a03> gPad2002: server advertise hint hint :P
#370 [01:08] <CheeseN1P> I allways feel sad with new worlds, but there amazeing
#371 [01:08] <frogonia> Thanks Cheese!
#372 [01:09] <gPad2002> tyteen4a03: Y u want me to get banned
#373 [01:09] <tyteen4a03> lolol
#374 [01:09] <tyteen4a03> ./query eh
#375 [01:09] <gPad2002> tyteen4a03: Y u want me to get klined
#376 [01:09] <tyteen4a03> lolol
#377 [01:10] <frogonia> Thanks for the confirmation and help. I really appreciate it. it was so nice to get help on this right away. I really appreciate you all.
#378 [01:10] <frogonia> Have a great day.
#379 [01:10] <LuckyTherteen> If I am on a mac, will putting mods in the /mods folder still work?
#380 [01:13] <gPad2002> LuckyTherteen: Of course
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#382 [01:35] <LuckyTherteen> Do I put the mods, folder and all, directly into the /mods folder, or is there some complicated process that I have to go through?
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#385 [01:37] <gPad2002> LuckyTherteen: You put the zip into the mods folder
#386 [01:38] <gPad2002> Btw
#387 [01:38] <gPad2002> Guys
#388 [01:38] <gPad2002> What is this "chicken hack" I keep hearing about?
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#400 [01:43] <sproing> Can anyone tell me how to download Survival Island by Minecraft?
#401 [01:43] <sproing> Can anyone tell me how to download Survival Island by Minecraft?
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#417 [02:55] <Master_Jynx> imhaving crashes in which the screen goes black before i can copy the report. Im looking for the .bat file posted to deal with this problem. anyone have a link?
#418 [02:58] <Wug> when does it crash, after logging in or while playing
#419 [03:03] <Master_Jynx> the crash occures while playing on a MC Port modded smp server
#420 [03:03] <Wug> "port modded"?
#421 [03:03] <Master_Jynx> and it happens in the same area repeatedly, so id like to see the report to find out which mod is causing it
#422 [03:04] <Master_Jynx> yes, modded by the MC Port Central team
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#424 [03:05] <Wug> :ts/launcher
#425 [03:05] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#426 [03:05] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#427 [03:05] <Wug> this launcher saves a log file in the minecraft folder called minecraft.log
#428 [03:05] <Wug> the error report will be in there
#429 [03:06] <Master_Jynx> thanks much
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#431 [03:08] <Master_Jynx> thanks Wug, that caught the error for me
#432 [03:09] <Wug> np
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#443 [04:02] <Neillithan> hello, I am looking to familiarize myself with some economy plugins for Minecraft. Where should I begin?
#444 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> For multiplayer?
#445 [04:03] <Neillithan> yeah
#446 [04:04] <Neillithan> I want to be able to take certain items like diamonds or gold, and trade them for like stacks of cobblestone or other blocks.
#447 [04:04] <Neillithan> and I want those cobblestone or other blocks to be infinitely provided in a locked chest
#448 [04:04] <Neillithan> is that possible?
#449 [04:05] <GreyVulpine> As there's thousands upon thousands of different mods and plugins, this channel isn't suited for questions like that. If you're running a bukkit server, questions for that can be directed at #bukkit, or in the bukkit forums at bukkit.org
#450 [04:05] <GreyVulpine> You can find a list of different plugins for bukkit at http://plugins.bukkit.org
#451 [04:05] <Neillithan> thanks
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#455 [04:29] <pwnyzwow> When I try to play minecraft I'm told that my drivers are bad. I've tried to update them but as far as i can tell there is no current update for my driver. I have a ATI mobility FireGL v5250.
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#462 [04:39] <Hawkhead> Does anyone know of a really easy way of getting TooManyItems mod?
#463 [04:42] <Hawkhead> good bye!
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#467 [04:43] <pwnyzwow> Can anyone help with my problem? When i try to play minecraft im told my drivers are bad. Using an ATI mobility FireGL v5250.
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#476 [05:43] <Puddles> Im having issues running minecraft.exe on Windows 7 x64 any suggestions
#477 [05:58] <KevinWe> Hello! :D
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#480 [06:06] <Miikkelsen> Hello! I tried to register on Minecraft.net But I have waited for 3 weeks to get the verifaction Email.. But I don't get it. I have also tried to send it more than once.. Need help #Desperate.
#481 [06:23] <Miikkelsen> Whatever..
#482 [06:23] <Miikkelsen> Whatever..
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#492 [06:56] <Wug> AureliusM: !help
#493 [06:56] <Wug> !help
#494 [06:56] * Wug sees everything :o
#494 [06:57] <TFG_Fursona> Wug is almighty.
#495 [06:57] <TFG_Fursona> We must follow him.
#496 [06:57] * Wug is not yet almighty
#496 [06:57] <Wug> are you still banned from #minecraft
#497 [06:57] <Wug> I herd sqozza got mad at you
#498 [06:58] <Wug> you're on the channel so it appears not
#499 [06:58] <TFG_Fursona> Sqozza got pissed because we were arguing that the Pomson 6000 was OP.
#500 [06:58] <TFG_Fursona> It's at most a moderate threat/moderate weapon.
#501 [06:59] <Wug> I know nothing about tf
#502 [06:59] <Wug> 2
#503 [06:59] <TFG_Fursona> You need to play it and learn, then.
#504 [07:00] <TFG_Fursona> Or you may not understand a lot of life.
#505 [07:00] <Wug> ive picked up most of the memes
#506 [07:00] <Wug> for what its worth
#507 [07:01] <TFG_Fursona> Some of the memes for it are not accurate at all.
#508 [07:01] <Wug> I know that too
#509 [07:01] <TFG_Fursona> But the ones that are.
#510 [07:01] <TFG_Fursona> Are hilarious as fuck.
#511 [07:01] * AuBot kicked TFG_Fursona from #minecrafthelp (Reason: FG_Fursona :Please keep it civil.)
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#513 [07:01] <TFG_Fursona> AuBot lacks humor.
#514 [07:01] <Wug> aubot does lack humor
#515 [07:02] <Wug> I know enough about memes and tf2 to know that http://tf2r.com/banned.swf is god tier
#516 [07:03] <Wug> see also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h6D31RMHIs because the swf is not loading
#517 [07:04] <Wug> rather like how I hate mlp but think http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULAhOQsHBEM&feature=related is a god tier meme
#518 [07:05] <TFG_Fursona> Yaaawn, but anywho.
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#522 [07:37] <AureliusM> I noticed some users report their browser renames the minecraft.jar to minecraft.zip - could this be related to this apparantly still open Chrome issue? http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=1c744e4ff30a95f7&hl=en
#523 [07:37] <gUni2002> I've heard this one
#524 [07:38] * AureliusM is looking at improving http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
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#534 [08:07] <Maverickq> I got a problem with power rail and hills. My carts dont want to go up hill on power rail powered by redstone torch. They go 1 or 2 blocks up and then mostly down. Sometimes they do go up but its not always the same. I have used this tutorial http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxPHAZ6Nqn0&feature=related
#535 [08:07] <Maverickq> and did everything the same as its there and its not working
#536 [08:08] <dylanbarberdude> They dont turn
#537 [08:08] <Maverickq> sorry?
#538 [08:08] <Maverickq> no no turning
#539 [08:08] <Maverickq> tthey go up
#540 [08:08] <dylanbarberdude> oh
#541 [08:08] <Maverickq> sometimes even 1 block only
#542 [08:08] <Maverickq> and then straight down
#543 [08:08] <dylanbarberdude> Try replacing the rails
#544 [08:09] <Maverickq> i did
#545 [08:09] <Maverickq> i did different highs
#546 [08:09] <Maverickq> sometimes the carts go up to the end but its not permament
#547 [08:09] <Maverickq> like the physics of the game change
#548 [08:09] <dylanbarberdude> Is it on a server?
#549 [08:09] <Maverickq> yes
#550 [08:10] <Maverickq> UK public server
#551 [08:10] <Maverickq> you think something is wrong with cfg of the server?
#552 [08:10] <dylanbarberdude> Then its caused by physics lag theres nothing you can do about it.
#553 [08:11] <Maverickq> no lag right now
#554 [08:11] <Maverickq> only 5 ppl on the server
#555 [08:11] <dylanbarberdude> Its invisible at first sight
#556 [08:11] <Maverickq> so i cant do it on mp?
#557 [08:12] <dylanbarberdude> Nope
#558 [08:12] <dylanbarberdude> It will work in single player
#559 [08:12] <Maverickq> will water lag as well?
#560 [08:12] <AureliusM> Maverickq: how are the powerrails distributed? 2 every 3 ordinary rails?
#561 [08:12] <dylanbarberdude> not as much
#562 [08:13] <Maverickq> let me check
#563 [08:13] * AureliusM would check this on his test server but has too many YouTube videos open right now
#563 [08:13] <Maverickq> well
#564 [08:13] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#565 [08:14] <Maverickq> ive done all power rails up 1straight 1 up etc and didnt work
#566 [08:14] <dylanbarberdude> Make them all Power Rails.
#567 [08:14] <Maverickq> they are
#568 [08:14] <dylanbarberdude> Every single one?
#569 [08:15] <Maverickq> ive done every block up and 1 block up 1 block straight
#570 [08:15] <Maverickq> yes
#571 [08:15] <Maverickq> got stack of em
#572 [08:15] <Maverickq> all powered
#573 [08:15] <Maverickq> i even did redstone torch near everyone of em
#574 [08:16] <Maverickq> and its the same as 1 torch
#575 [08:16] <dylanbarberdude> Try 3 every 2 normal rails
#576 [08:16] <Maverickq> but all u?
#577 [08:16] <Maverickq> or 1 up one straight
#578 [08:16] <Maverickq> up
#579 [08:18] <dylanbarberdude> Babby_Creeper, You there man?
#580 [08:18] <Maverickq> yes
#581 [08:18] <Maverickq> it worked for now i think
#582 [08:18] <Maverickq> did 1 power rail up and 1 normal straight
#583 [08:18] <dylanbarberdude> Guess not...
#584 [08:19] <dylanbarberdude> Thats awsome!
#585 [08:19] <AureliusM> Maverickq: I'm going to test this now on my lag-simulation server
#586 [08:19] <Maverickq> im not so happy cause need to check it few times
#587 [08:19] <Grim_Reaper> Wasn't Maverick the name of that character in MW2/3
#588 [08:19] <Grim_Reaper> Or am I dreaming
#589 [08:19] <dylanbarberdude> Kealper, You there?
#590 [08:20] <Maverickq> o lol
#591 [08:20] <Maverickq> u play MW2?
#592 [08:20] <dylanbarberdude> Wug?
#593 [08:20] <Grim_Reaper> I played the campaign man
#594 [08:20] <Maverickq> lol
#595 [08:20] <Maverickq> i play multi
#596 [08:20] <Grim_Reaper> Good story. Mw3 storylike was lame
#597 [08:20] <Maverickq> but i still like it
#598 [08:20] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah I playe mw2 multiplayer for a while. Then i got Bad company 2/bf3 and never looked back :p
#599 [08:21] <Maverickq> i got bad company 2 but its not the same
#600 [08:21] <dylanbarberdude> I play Once apon a monster on wii its the mostHARDCORE game ever!
#601 [08:21] <Maverickq> bf3 is not for my PC:P
#602 [08:21] <Grim_Reaper> Lol I know the feeling. I can only get about 30 fps or lower most of the time on all low/ + res >_>
#603 [08:21] <Grim_Reaper> Lol I know the feeling. I can only get about 30 fps or lower most of the time on all low/ + res >_>
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#605 [08:22] <dylanbarberdude> Lol
#606 [08:22] <dylanbarberdude> i was joking
#607 [08:22] <Grim_Reaper> I was replying to Maverickq :p
#608 [08:22] <Maverickq> :)
#609 [08:23] <dylanbarberdude> Neesueoufdah!
#610 [08:23] <Maverickq> i got minecraft its the most hardoce game i ever played :)
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#613 [08:23] <dylanbarberdude> Ignore that...
#614 [08:23] <dylanbarberdude> Same...
#615 [08:24] <Grim_Reaper> Mmm minecraft <3
#616 [08:24] <Israpony> Neeahgy!
#617 [08:24] <Maverickq> i was cursing so much doing that rail oh man
#618 [08:24] <Fumblepony> BOOM!
#619 [08:24] <Grim_Reaper> I still think minecraft should have cute cuddly penguins >_>
#620 [08:25] <Maverickq> coalas
#621 [08:25] <Maverickq> carrots
#622 [08:25] <Grim_Reaper> Those too
#623 [08:25] <Grim_Reaper> Not so sure about carrots
#624 [08:25] <Maverickq> x)
#625 [08:25] <Pony_Peculier> Heroes!
#626 [08:25] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#627 [08:25] <Grim_Reaper> Super steve!
#628 [08:26] <Grim_Reaper> *normal steve trips super steve in lava* *super steve dies* *normal steve wins*
#629 [08:26] <Pony_Peculier> lool
#630 [08:26] <Maverickq> lol
#631 [08:26] <Maverickq> trying to do bigger rails now
#632 [08:26] <Grim_Reaper> I remember my very first rail
#633 [08:27] <Pony_Peculier> Im going to RP ok
#634 [08:27] <Grim_Reaper> I got about 6 blocks forward after pushing my cart
#635 [08:27] <Pony_Peculier> Requests?
#636 [08:27] <Grim_Reaper> Requests for?
#637 [08:27] <Pony_Peculier> Im going to RP in irc
#638 [08:28] <Grim_Reaper> Ok..
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#640 [08:28] <Novis> excuse me
#641 [08:28] <Novis> i want to buy minecraft redeem code
#642 [08:28] <Pony_Peculier> Request?
#643 [08:28] <Novis> can i buy redeem code in russia?
#644 [08:29] <Novis> russia redeem code is cheap
#645 [08:29] <Grim_Reaper> You can buy a redeem code on the www.minecraft.net site once you're logged in
#646 [08:29] <Novis> i know
#647 [08:29] <Novis> but Russia web site is cheap.
#648 [08:29] <Novis> redeem code.
#649 [08:29] * Grim_Reaper requests Pony_Peculier to rp in another channel since this is minecrafthelp :p
#649 [08:29] <Grim_Reaper> You have a chance of being scammed if you buy a code from any other website
#650 [08:30] <Pony_Peculier> Request Accepted...
#651 [08:30] * Grim_Reaper also requests Pony_Peculier to sprinkle fairy dust on Morrolan|away
#651 [08:30] <Pony_Peculier> Alltering Request...48%
#652 [08:30] <Pony_Peculier> Alltering Request...86%
#653 [08:31] <Pony_Peculier> Alltering Request...Completed
#654 [08:31] <Pony_Peculier> Altered Request: RP GrimReaper
#655 [08:32] <Grim_Raper> I dont like RPs
#656 [08:33] <Grim_Reaper> Pfft
#657 [08:33] <Grim_Reaper> Impersonating is a big no no
#658 [08:33] <Grim_Raper> Im doing a RP
#659 [08:33] <Maverickq> ok done it
#660 [08:33] <Maverickq> it worked at first time :/
#661 [08:33] <Maverickq> not now
#662 [08:34] <Grim_Reaper> ;;
#663 [08:34] <Maverickq> it stops at the 3rd power rail up
#664 [08:34] <Maverickq> and goes donw
#665 [08:34] <Maverickq> down
#666 [08:35] <Esper_Bot> Beep!
#667 [08:35] <Maverickq> ok i know what is wrong
#668 [08:36] <Maverickq> it works fine when i push the damn thing
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#670 [08:36] <Maverickq> it doesnt work when it goes automatically
#671 [08:36] <Maverickq> by button
#672 [08:36] <Esper_Bot> I work like AuBot try me
#673 [08:37] <Esper_Bot> Exept use = instead of !
#674 [08:37] <Neillithan> would somebody be willing to come on my server to test something with me? an economy chestshop plugin?
#675 [08:37] <TFG_Fursona> Esper_Bot: Go back to being a bot and not a person.
#676 [08:37] * TheNoodle stares at Esper_Bot
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#677 [08:38] <TheNoodle> dylanbarberdude, do we really need another bot in here?
#678 [08:38] * Grim_Reaper stares at TheNoodle
#678 [08:38] * Esper_Bot stares at TheNoodle
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#679 [08:39] <Esper_Bot> Say Esper_Bot stare at TheNoodle
#680 [08:39] <TheNoodle> Answer the question kthx
#681 [08:39] <Grim_Reaper> Esper_Bot say /part
#682 [08:39] <Grim_Reaper> ;_;
#683 [08:40] <Esper_Bot> ./part
#684 [08:40] <Esper_Bot> He He He
#685 [08:40] <Grim_Reaper> You put a . there. Your bot ish broken
#686 [08:40] <TheNoodle> And that choice of name probably isn't the best.
#687 [08:40] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#688 [08:40] <Grim_Reaper> So how are you TheBadShepperd
#689 [08:40] <Grim_Reaper> TheNoodle **
#690 [08:40] <TheNoodle> lol
#691 [08:41] <Esper_Bot> TheNoodle, Yes we do.
#692 [08:41] <TheNoodle> And why is that?
#693 [08:41] <TheNoodle> Grim_Reaper, I'm good :p
#694 [08:41] <Grim_Reaper> ^^
#695 [08:42] <TheNoodle> You?
#696 [08:42] <Grim_Reaper> Im ok thanks
#697 [08:42] <TheNoodle> Oh and Esper_Bot, did you ask an op before bringing it in to the channel?
#698 [08:42] <Esper_Bot> I can be renamed! Use: (Current_Name) rename (New_Name)
#699 [08:43] <Grim_Reaper> This bot seems more like a troll bot :3
#700 [08:43] <TheNoodle> hmm
#701 [08:43] <Grim_Reaper> 3: *
#702 [08:43] <TheNoodle> Let's see if wugbot works
#703 [08:43] <TheNoodle> ;quiet Esper_Bot
#704 [08:43] <TheNoodle> hmm
#705 [08:43] <TheNoodle> ;help
#706 [08:43] <Grim_Reaper> ;help
#707 [08:43] <Grim_Reaper> QQ
#708 [08:44] <Grim_Reaper> Oh it pmed me :o
#709 [08:44] <TheNoodle> ahhh
#710 [08:44] <TheNoodle> ;quiet Esper_Bot #minecrafthelp
#711 [08:44] <mib_h5efao> I have a problem. II have a problem. I've tried to register minecraft.net but I have my e-mail address is entered incorrectly, it is possible to correct that.
#712 [08:44] * TheNoodle slaps Wugbot
#712 [08:45] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#713 [08:45] <mib_h5efao> sorry but i'm not so good in english
#714 [08:45] <Grim_Reaper> ;quiet Esper_Bot #minecrafthelp
#715 [08:46] <TheNoodle> You wouldn't have the flags :p
#716 [08:46] <TheNoodle> I thought I had +c, oh well.
#717 [08:46] <TheNoodle> Esper_Bot, you still haven't answered my question.
#718 [08:46] <Grim_Reaper> D:
#719 [08:46] <Grim_Reaper> Im surprised the bot pmed me when I tried ;help though >..
#720 [08:46] <mib_h5efao> please answer me
#721 [08:47] <Grim_Reaper> mib_h5efao if you entered your email incorrectly
#722 [08:47] <TheNoodle> mib_h5efao, I'm trying to remember the email address you have to send to -_-
#723 [08:47] <Esper_Bot> Unknown Codec On TheNoodles Message: Unable to read!
#724 [08:47] <TheNoodle> !kick Esper_Bot wheeee
#725 [08:47] * AuBot` kicked Esper_Bot from #minecrafthelp (Reason: sper_Bot :You are the weakest link, goodbye! (Issued by TheNoodle with reason: wheeee))
#726 [08:47] <Grim_Reaper> the best thing I can suggest is try emailing help@mojang.net or was it .com o.o
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#728 [08:47] <TheNoodle> .com
#729 [08:47] <Grim_Reaper> Thought so :3
#730 [08:47] <mib_h5efao> how
#731 [08:48] <Grim_Reaper> Just send an email explaining the issue to help@mojang.com
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#733 [08:48] <mib_h5efao> Ok thanks
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#736 [08:54] <TheNoodle> Going to stop with the stupid shit now dylanbarberdude?
#737 [08:55] <dylanbarberdude> Yes
#738 [08:55] <dylanbarberdude> Sorry
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#741 [09:02] <dylanbarberdude> !check mc.gazamo.com
#742 [09:02] <dylanbarberdude> What!?
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#747 [09:51] <mr_pants> i bought minecraft yesterday but my account is still not premium. what should i do?
#748 [09:51] <Valerie> Did you buy it from minecraft.net?
#749 [09:51] <mr_pants> yes
#750 [09:51] <Valerie> what name did you register it with?
#751 [09:52] <Valerie> !premium ArcheKruz
#752 [09:52] <mr_pants> redface66666666
#753 [09:52] <Valerie> !paid redface66666666
#754 [09:53] <TheNoodle> o.o
#755 [09:53] <Valerie> looks like voxelbot doesn't like his name
#756 [09:53] <Valerie> Well
#757 [09:53] <Valerie> one more thing
#758 [09:54] <Valerie> if you used your paypal
#759 [09:54] <Valerie> you can send the minecraft support an email with your paypal receipt
#760 [09:54] <Valerie> ask them about it
#761 [09:54] <mr_pants> no i used an ec card from "vr bank" in germany
#762 [09:54] <Valerie> hmm
#763 [09:55] <Valerie> looks like your bank may have blocked the transfer of the funds
#764 [09:55] <Valerie> you'll need to talk to your bank about it
#765 [09:55] <Valerie> if it turns out the transfer went through
#766 [09:55] <Valerie> ask the support
#767 [09:55] <Valerie> and bring in proof of purchase
#768 [09:56] <mr_pants> thanks a lot
#769 [09:56] <mr_pants> ill check it
#770 [09:56] <mr_pants> bb
#771 [09:56] <mr_pants> bb
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#777 [10:16] <wannabemac> Hello.
#778 [10:16] <wannabemac> Why is Scott no longer op?
#779 [10:17] <wannabemac> GreyVulpine?
#780 [10:17] <dylanbarberdude> Hi
#781 [10:17] <wannabemac> Hello.
#782 [10:17] <dylanbarberdude> Scott isnt even online
#783 [10:18] <wannabemac> I am not asking Scott.
#784 [10:18] <wannabemac> :P
#785 [10:19] <dylanbarberdude> I know
#786 [10:19] <dylanbarberdude> so how do you know hes not op
#787 [10:20] <wannabemac> He doesnt need to be online.
#788 [10:20] <wannabemac> To tell.
#789 [10:20] <dylanbarberdude> oh...
#790 [10:20] <dylanbarberdude> Hi Scott
#791 [10:20] <wannabemac> That doesnt mean he is online.
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#793 [10:22] <wannabemac> Hello.
#794 [10:23] <dylanbarberdude> You are Scott
#795 [10:23] <wannabemac> No.
#796 [10:23] * dylanbarberdude is suipiceous
#796 [10:23] <dylanbarberdude> I have no clue how t
#797 [10:24] <dylanbarberdude> to spell that
#798 [10:24] <wannabemac> suspicious?
#799 [10:24] <wannabemac> That word?
#800 [10:24] * dylanbarberdude is
#800 [10:24] <dylanbarberdude> god damit!
#801 [10:24] * wannabemac stabs dylanbarberdude
#801 [10:24] * dylanbarberdude dies
#801 [10:25] <dylanbarberdude> guahtfbg! (Zombie Noise)
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#803 [10:31] <[L]> Ring.
#804 [10:31] <wannabemac> Ring.
#805 [10:31] <[L]> wannabemac?
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#807 [10:31] <wannabemac> ??
#808 [10:32] <[L]> I think Scott has it intentionally turned off
#809 [10:32] <wannabemac> Reason?
#810 [10:32] <[L]> I dunno
#811 [10:32] <[L]> I just checked
#812 [10:32] <[L]> He has VOP
#813 [10:32] <[L]> Not AOP
#814 [10:32] <[L]> Stfu vox
#815 [10:32] <wannabemac> lol
#816 [10:32] * wannabemac stabs VoxelHead
#816 [10:33] <[L]> Quite.
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#818 [10:33] <[L]> Xales: Who owns VoxelHead?
#819 [10:33] <xales> DG
#820 [10:33] <wannabemac> Ninja!
#821 [10:33] <[L]> I need to bug him
#822 [10:33] <[L]> To add me to some kind of 'whitelist'
#823 [10:33] <xales> why?
#824 [10:33] <[L]> So when I say Fuck he doesn't kick me like so:
#825 [10:33] * AuBot kicked [L] from #minecrafthelp (Reason: L] :Please keep it civil.)
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#827 [10:34] <xales> that's aubot, not vox
#828 [10:34] <[L]> Oh
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#830 [10:34] <xales> and I'm not sure if there is a fucking whitelist
#831 [10:34] <xales> oh, I guess there is
#832 [10:34] <[L]> fucking
#833 [10:34] * AuBot kicked [L] from #minecrafthelp (Reason: L] :Please keep it civil.)
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#835 [10:34] <xales> hmm
#836 [10:34] <wannabemac> lol
#837 [10:34] <xales> Kealper: poke
#838 [10:34] * wannabemac stabs Kealper
#838 [10:35] <mib_c3oscz> my minecraft geets stuck and just keeps saying done loading
#839 [10:35] * wannabemac hides the body in the dumpster
#839 [10:35] <[L]> wannabemac: Why did you need scott?
#840 [10:35] <wannabemac> I was just wondering.
#841 [10:35] <xales> ??> mib_c3oscz forceupdate
#842 [10:35] <wannabemac> Crap, I have class now.
#843 [10:35] <VoxelHead> mib_c3oscz: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#844 [10:35] <VoxelHead> mib_c3oscz: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#845 [10:36] <dylanbarberdude> Do you guys find me: A) A idiot/nuisence B) A great person C) Other:____
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#847 [10:37] <[L]> C: I don't know you, therefore. I hate you
#848 [10:37] <dylanbarberdude> You auto hate kinda harsh...
#849 [10:39] <[L]> Sucks
#850 [10:39] <[L]> Don't know you, still hate you.
#851 [10:41] <dylanbarberdude> You guys see the crazy german on pbats scream at the screen
#852 [10:41] <dylanbarberdude> ?
#853 [10:42] <[L]> What
#854 [10:42] <dylanbarberdude> gtg
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#856 [10:43] <Boreeas> Quit or be kicked, that is the question
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#859 [10:45] <Psytroll> hello i have a problem i want to buy minecraft by direct transfer but everytime i go in this site the bankinformation tap disapears on the internetexplorer i see it for 2 sec more before it vanish
#860 [10:48] <Psytroll> hello?
#861 [10:48] <[L]> Give people time
#862 [10:48] <Psytroll> ok
#863 [10:48] <Psytroll> sry
#864 [10:48] <[L]> We won't respond right away
#865 [10:48] <[L]> I never bought minecraft, so I have no idea how to help you :l
#866 [10:50] <Boreeas> Psytroll: Easy fix: Don't use IE
#867 [10:53] <Psytroll> ehm
#868 [10:53] <Psytroll> i use fire fox
#869 [10:53] <Psytroll> there it doesnt apear at anytime
#870 [10:53] <[L]> You said you use IE
#871 [10:53] <Psytroll> on IE it apears for 2 sec
#872 [10:53] <[L]> Try Google chrome or Opera
#873 [10:53] <Boreeas> GC
#874 [10:54] <Psytroll> ok
#875 [10:54] <Psytroll> ill try ^^
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#877 [10:58] <masterjoeri> hi guys
#878 [10:58] <masterjoeri> if i open minecraft it goes white
#879 [10:59] <masterjoeri> can someone help?
#880 [10:59] <Boreeas> masterjoeri: Using any mods?
#881 [10:59] <masterjoeri> nope
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#883 [10:59] <masterjoeri> just bought it
#884 [11:01] <masterjoeri> but im really not technical or something
#885 [11:02] <masterjoeri> please?
#886 [11:03] <Psytroll> used opera now, i dont even come to the side for bankinformation xD going to test GC now ._.
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#890 [11:10] <Psytroll> Chrome doesnt work ether
#891 [11:11] <masterjoeri> i updated my java and it still doesn't work
#892 [11:12] <masterjoeri> i have a white screen
#893 [11:13] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Windows?
#894 [11:13] <masterjoeri> jup
#895 [11:13] <xales> Psytroll: If you are trying to pay from a bank account, you won't be able to.
#896 [11:13] <masterjoeri> ?
#897 [11:13] <AureliusM> ??> masterjoeri win/dxdiag
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#899 [11:13] <VoxelHead> masterjoeri: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#900 [11:13] <VoxelHead> masterjoeri: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#901 [11:13] <masterjoeri> lol i dont get it
#902 [11:13] <Psytroll> hmm why that?
#903 [11:13] <xales> Follow VoxelHead's instructions.
#904 [11:13] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Follow VoxelHead's instructions to help get your Graphics driver details
#905 [11:14] <xales> Psytroll: Mojang requires some form of instant payment; a bank account transfer is not instant.
#906 [11:14] <masterjoeri> im not very technical and 13 years old so i dont understand it
#907 [11:14] <Psytroll> ONLY creditcard or paypal?
#908 [11:14] <masterjoeri> + im not english
#909 [11:14] <masterjoeri> i already bought it
#910 [11:15] <AureliusM> ??> masterjoeri only/you
#911 [11:15] <VoxelHead> masterjoeri: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#912 [11:15] <VoxelHead> masterjoeri: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#913 [11:15] <Psytroll> i dont get it, then why they give the opinion to buy per direct transfer ._.
#914 [11:15] <masterjoeri> oh ok
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#916 [11:16] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: can you press your Windows key and the R key on your keyboard?
#917 [11:16] <masterjoeri> jup
#918 [11:16] <masterjoeri> i have a searching screen
#919 [11:16] <masterjoeri> or something
#920 [11:17] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: In that screen type windiag and press the Enter key
#921 [11:17] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: oops, wait
#922 [11:17] <masterjoeri> ok
#923 [11:17] <masterjoeri> what/
#924 [11:17] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: In that screen type dxdiag and press Enter key
#925 [11:17] <masterjoeri> ok
#926 [11:17] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: I made a mistake, should be dxdiag
#927 [11:17] <masterjoeri> yeah i have typed it
#928 [11:18] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Does a DX diagnostics screen appear?
#929 [11:18] <masterjoeri> yes only then in dutch
#930 [11:18] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Ah, I can help in German, if that's easier for you.
#931 [11:18] <masterjoeri> no
#932 [11:19] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Look a button with the Dutch equivalent of "Save all information", and click it
#933 [11:19] <masterjoeri> i can understand english but its different in dutch
#934 [11:19] <masterjoeri> ok
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#936 [11:19] <reedlepee> hello?
#937 [11:19] <masterjoeri> and now?
#938 [11:19] <reedlepee> i hva eproblems with pay
#939 [11:20] <masterjoeri> i have done that
#940 [11:20] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: choose a place on the desktop to save the DxDiag.txt file
#941 [11:21] <masterjoeri> i clicked on desktop and save is that good?
#942 [11:22] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Yes. Now goto your desktop, find the DxDiag.txt file you have saved, and double click the left mouse button over it.
#943 [11:22] <masterjoeri> ok
#944 [11:23] <masterjoeri> i have done that
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#946 [11:23] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Did it open in a large window with text inside?
#947 [11:23] <masterjoeri> yes
#948 [11:24] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Starting with "System Information" ?
#949 [11:24] <masterjoeri> yes
#950 [11:24] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Ok, at that window's menu bar now click the Dutch equivalent of Edit and then Select all and then Edit and copy
#951 [11:25] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: (this is to copy all the text into your clipboard)
#952 [11:25] <masterjoeri> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 1/11/2012, 17:19:10 Machine name: JOERI-PC Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.110622-1503) Language: Dutch (Regional Setting: Dutch) System Manufacturer: Packard Bell System Model: imedia S3800 BIOS: Default System BIOS Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CP
#953 [11:25] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: wait
#954 [11:26] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: You now need to paste that text into the website pastebin.com
#955 [11:26] <masterjoeri> ok
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#957 [11:26] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Browse to http://pastebin.com/, click inside the large area there, and click control-v on your keyboard
#958 [11:27] <masterjoeri> i already have done that
#959 [11:27] <masterjoeri> what do i have to click
#960 [11:27] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Good, now post just the URL of that pastebin page, here
#961 [11:28] <masterjoeri> http://pastebin.com/MALraB8q
#962 [11:29] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Ok, from that dxdiag, your graphics card is: NVIDIA GeForce 315, and the driver date is: Driver Date/Size: 9/19/2009; I will look for up to date drivers for you
#963 [11:29] <masterjoeri> yes ok??
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#965 [11:32] <xales> masterjoeri: Download and install this: http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/38916
#966 [11:33] <masterjoeri> hmm ok
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#968 [11:33] <masterjoeri> and after that?
#969 [11:33] <AureliusM> xales, thanks, I was having trouble finding a Dutch language driver for taht
#970 [11:33] <xales> masterjoeri: Try Minecraft again
#971 [11:34] <masterjoeri> ty both :)
#972 [11:35] <AureliusM> xales, I had just reached http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-285.62-whql-driver-all.html which I think is the international version of that same driver, not sure it makes any difference
#973 [11:36] <xales> I don't know if it does, but it should detect region automatically and give him the right driver...it used to do that, anyway
#974 [11:37] <AureliusM> xales, Ok good, as it happens I used to work with German software engineers that insisted on always using English language version software and keyboards because it made their life easier getting support - but they all spoke good English
#975 [11:38] <xales> heh
#976 [11:38] <masterjoeri> doesnt work yet... how long will it take or was this the problem/
#977 [11:38] <masterjoeri> ?
#978 [11:38] <xales> masterjoeri: Have you downloaded and installed the thing I linked you to?
#979 [11:38] <masterjoeri> yes
#980 [11:39] <masterjoeri> and i finished it
#981 [11:39] <xales> masterjoeri: Are you trying to play minecraft on the website, or using the download?
#982 [11:39] <masterjoeri> i now play on the website
#983 [11:40] <masterjoeri> i will check out download
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#985 [11:40] <masterjoeri> no it doesnt work :(
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#987 [11:40] <xales> masterjoeri: What happens when you try?
#988 [11:41] <masterjoeri> on download the screen goes black and on browser it goes white
#989 [11:41] <masterjoeri> ??
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#992 [11:42] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: That driver file is very large and will probably take some time to download.
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#994 [11:42] <abjolm> i really need help connecting
#995 [11:42] <masterjoeri> what is a driver file? im really a noob xd
#996 [11:43] <mib_30ccbo> spricht hier jemand deutsch?
#997 [11:43] <mib_30ccbo> ich habe da nämlich ein problem...
#998 [11:43] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/38916 <-- this was the link xales gave you, did you click the green Agree and Download button
#999 [11:43] <masterjoeri> yes
#1000 [11:43] <masterjoeri> i downloaded it
#1001 [11:44] <abjolm> when i try and connect to any multiplayer server it just says connecting to server forever
#1002 [11:44] <AureliusM> mib_30ccbo: ich kann deutsch verstehen, aber am liebsten spreche ich Englisch hier
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#1004 [11:45] <mib_30ccbo> mein englisch ist aber nicht so gut das du es verstehen würdest ^^
#1005 [11:45] <AureliusM> mib_30ccbo: versuch mal mit eine Pronlembescrhreibung, und ich werd' auf Englisch antworten
#1006 [11:45] <mib_30ccbo> okay
#1007 [11:45] <AureliusM> mib_30ccbo: * Problembescrhreibung
#1008 [11:45] <Boreeas> AureliusM: Want me to take over?
#1009 [11:45] <mib_30ccbo> also ich habe mir vor einer std minecraft gekauft, da stand in einer std wird mein profil aktualisiert aber da kam nix wieso?
#1010 [11:46] <AureliusM> Boreeas: if your German is betterthan mine, go ahead, mine will have grammar errors!
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#1012 [11:46] <Boreeas> mib_30ccbo: Wo hast du das Spiel gekauft?
#1013 [11:46] <mib_30ccbo> das heißt es geht nicht im moment oder wie?
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#1015 [11:46] <Boreeas> mib_30ccbo: Von minecraft.net oder von einer anderen website?
#1016 [11:47] <mib_30ccbo> auf minecraft.net
#1017 [11:47] <Boreeas> mib_30ccbo: Und wie hast du bezahlt?
#1018 [11:47] <mib_30ccbo> per karte
#1019 [11:47] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: are you still here?
#1020 [11:47] <masterjoeri> yes
#1021 [11:48] <mib_30ccbo> und da stand das mein profil in etwar 1std aktualisiert wird
#1022 [11:48] <Boreeas> mib_30ccbo: Manchmal dauert das bis zu 3 Tage bis die Bezahlung durchkommt
#1023 [11:48] <Boreeas> mib_30ccbo: Guck dann noch mal nach
#1024 [11:48] <abjolm> when i try and connect to any multiplayer server it just keeps saying connecting to server for hours.
#1025 [11:48] <mib_30ccbo> okay weil wenn ich mich anmelden will steht da das ich kein premium user bin
#1026 [11:48] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: When you downloaded the GeForce 285.62 Driver did you save it on your desktop?
#1027 [11:48] <masterjoeri> AureliusM and you?
#1028 [11:49] <Boreeas> mib_30ccbo: Ja, probier übermorgen noch mal, und wenns dann immer noch nicht funktioniert, komm hierher zurück
#1029 [11:49] <mib_30ccbo> alles klar werde ich machen vielen dank :-)
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#1031 [11:50] <Boreeas> Kein problem :)
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#1033 [11:50] <Killer0561> moin
#1034 [11:50] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: I was away for a minute to get coffee, can you find the properties of the file you download?
#1035 [11:50] <mib_30ccbo> moin
#1036 [11:50] <Killer0561> ich hoffe, ich bin hier richtig
#1037 [11:51] <Killer0561> ich brauche technische Unterstützung
#1038 [11:51] <masterjoeri> uhh you mean i have to search that nividia thing
#1039 [11:51] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Yes, you wrote that you downloaded it, the file size should be: 47 MB (155,182,440 byte)
#1040 [11:51] <Killer0561> Mein Minecraft crashed, sobald ich einen Spieler anschaue im Multiplayer
#1041 [11:52] <Killer0561> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 11.01.12
#1042 [11:52] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: sorry 147 MB
#1043 [11:52] <masterjoeri> what is the name?
#1044 [11:52] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: 285.62-desktop-win7-winvista-64bit-english-whql.exe
#1045 [11:52] <Killer0561> ?
#1046 [11:53] <Boreeas> Killer0561: http://pastebin.com
#1047 [11:53] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> Killer0561 pastebin
#1048 [11:53] <VoxelHead> Killer0561: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1049 [11:53] <masterjoeri> i think its working
#1050 [11:53] <mib_30ccbo> Killer0561 rede am besten mit Boreeas
#1051 [11:53] <Killer0561> http://pastebin.com/BxFxxJdz
#1052 [11:53] <Killer0561> vielen Dank
#1053 [11:54] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Minecraft is working ? Or the driver is still installing?
#1054 [11:54] <Killer0561> working
#1055 [11:54] <masterjoeri> driver is installing
#1056 [11:54] <Killer0561> yes
#1057 [11:54] <masterjoeri> i think i have to agree and continue
#1058 [11:54] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Ok, I understand. Is the driver install showing a progress bar?
#1059 [11:54] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Killer0561: you dont happen to be clicking the middle mouse button for anything while in game, are you?
#1060 [11:55] <Killer0561> The game crashes when I look at a player.
#1061 [11:55] <Killer0561> mom
#1062 [11:55] <Killer0561> sorry for my bad english
#1063 [11:55] <Killer0561> i come from germany
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#1065 [11:56] <Killer0561> Ok, I understand. Is the driver install showing a progress bar? - yes
#1066 [11:56] <AureliusM> Killer0561: ignore my last message please.
#1067 [11:56] <Anthonymrb> Whats the newest version of Minecraft?
#1068 [11:56] <Killer0561> sorry
#1069 [11:56] <Killer0561> mom
#1070 [11:57] <AureliusM> my last message was for masterjoeri, sorry about that
#1071 [11:57] <Killer0561> 1.0.0
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#1073 [11:57] <Anthonymrb> Thanks
#1074 [11:57] <masterjoeri> wich>
#1075 [11:57] <masterjoeri> ?
#1076 [11:57] <masterjoeri> i downloaded it
#1077 [11:58] <Anthonymrb> Minecraft lags for me sometimes. Any suggestions as to why?
#1078 [11:58] <Anthonymrb> I use my distance as Tiny
#1079 [11:58] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Ok, good, please try to run the file you downloaded, by finding it and double clicking it.
#1080 [11:58] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Ok, good, please try to run the file you downloaded, by finding it and double clicking it.
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#1082 [11:58] <masterjoeri> uhmm
#1083 [11:59] <masterjoeri> how?
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#1085 [12:00] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: When you clicked Agree and Download, where did you save the file? It should be named: 285.62-desktop-win7-winvista-64bit-english-whql.exe
#1086 [12:00] <masterjoeri> i just downloaded it
#1087 [12:01] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Which internet browser are you using?
#1088 [12:01] <masterjoeri> chrome
#1089 [12:02] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: In the Chrome browser please click the wrench icon at the top right and click Download (or whatever it is in Dutch)
#1090 [12:02] * AureliusM is away for 40 seconds
#1090 [12:03] * AureliusM is back
#1090 [12:04] <masterjoeri> i think i got it
#1091 [12:04] <masterjoeri> its a list of downloads i did
#1092 [12:04] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: is its name 285.62-desktop-win7-winvista-64bit-english-whql.exe ?
#1093 [12:05] <masterjoeri> yes
#1094 [12:05] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: good, is it possible to run that file from within that Chrome download window?
#1095 [12:06] <masterjoeri> yes
#1096 [12:07] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: what happens when you do?
#1097 [12:07] <masterjoeri> it activates the download
#1098 [12:08] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: and what happens then?
#1099 [12:08] <masterjoeri> just the same as when i downloaded it
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#1101 [12:09] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: does Chrome tell you where on your computer the downloaded files are?
#1102 [12:09] <masterjoeri> yes before
#1103 [12:10] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Where does it put them?
#1104 [12:10] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Is it in "My documents" (translated to Dutch) ?
#1105 [12:10] <masterjoeri> no in downloads
#1106 [12:12] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: No, I mean where exactly on your computer file system.
#1107 [12:12] <masterjoeri> what is that
#1108 [12:12] <masterjoeri> sorry for being so stupid
#1109 [12:14] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: It's chrome that is stupid in my opinion. Try this: Go to Wrench Icon > Options >Under the hood(bonnet) tab > scroll down to the download section then click browse and select what folder you want
#1110 [12:16] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: Here are some pictures that should help: http://www.groovypost.com/howto/google/change-the-chrome-default-download-save-folder-location/
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#1112 [12:18] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: But wait. First try this: Click the Windows Start icon at bottom left of your screen, then type %UserProfile%Downloads and press the Enter key
#1113 [12:19] <messi> have just bought minecraft and am trying to download and it comes up with java error. i have gone into java and it has checked my system and said i have the correct version which i think is 6.0. pls help also pls can you answer in laymans terms as my ICT knowledge is not great. tks
#1114 [12:19] <AureliusM> masterjoeri: -> %UserProfile%/Downloads <- I forgot the "/"
#1115 [12:20] <AureliusM> messi: can you copy the whole error message and paste it into pastebin.com and give us the link?
#1116 [12:20] <AureliusM> ??> messi pastebin
#1117 [12:20] <VoxelHead> messi: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1119 [12:23] <AureliusM> messi: please say if you have problems getting the whole error message
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#1121 [12:24] <messi> http://pastebin.com/JzuDP0HP - is this it?
#1122 [12:24] <AureliusM> messi: yes
#1123 [12:24] <messi> ok all done
#1124 [12:25] <Featherbrainn> Does anyone know why I cant get on a particular server?
#1125 [12:25] <AureliusM> messi: Your graphics drivers need updating, can you do a DxDiag for us?
#1126 [12:26] <AureliusM> ??> messi win/dxdiag
#1127 [12:26] <VoxelHead> messi: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1128 [12:26] <VoxelHead> messi: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1129 [12:27] <AureliusM> Featherbrainn: maybe the server is down. Can you login to other servers?
#1130 [12:27] <messi> sorry what is the win ?
#1131 [12:27] <AureliusM> ??> messi win/key
#1132 [12:27] <VoxelHead> messi: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1133 [12:28] <Featherbrainn> I've tried two different servers. Don't know anymore than that
#1134 [12:29] <Featherbrainn> my brother gave me the adress so it should have been up
#1135 [12:30] <Juze> I just got here, what's up?
#1136 [12:30] <messi> ok have saved to desktop
#1137 [12:30] <Juze> Featherbrainn?
#1138 [12:30] <Featherbrainn> my brother gave me a sever adress and I can't get on it
#1139 [12:31] <AureliusM> Featherbrainn: try mc.minecraftirc.net that just worked for me
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#1141 [12:31] <minecrafter> you know minecraft lets play series's?
#1142 [12:31] <minecrafter> what software do u use to record them?
#1143 [12:31] <AureliusM> Featherbrainn: I should have asked, you mean Minecraft Premium 1.0.0? Not Classic?
#1144 [12:31] <minecrafter> fraps or hypercam?
#1145 [12:32] <AureliusM> minecrafter: Some use fraps, some use Hypercam, some use more expensive software
#1146 [12:32] <minecrafter> which is best for youtube?
#1147 [12:32] <minecrafter> cus im hoping to start my own
#1148 [12:32] <messi> once i have saved to desktop what do i do next?
#1149 [12:32] <minecrafter> :s
#1150 [12:33] <AureliusM> messi: Ok, can you follow the second part of Voxelhead's instructions, I'll copy them here: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1151 [12:33] <messi> ok
#1152 [12:33] <Featherbrainn> I have the premium
#1153 [12:33] <minecrafter> ok ill ask something different now...
#1154 [12:34] <minecrafter> what editing software do you use?
#1155 [12:34] <Featherbrainn> my brother says he has the same version
#1156 [12:34] <AureliusM> minecrafter: What's best for YouTube? It depends, but see the channel pages for docm77 and ethoslab, they describe their setup, I think they both use fraps
#1157 [12:34] <minecrafter> kk
#1158 [12:34] <minecrafter> thanks
#1159 [12:34] <minecrafter> one more thin
#1160 [12:34] <messi> hi here is the link http://pastebin.com/jY7BuwFE
#1161 [12:35] <AureliusM> minecrafter: I do not do any let's plays, and I've only made test recordings of Minecraft. I used VirtualDub, but that only gives the simplest of editing functions.
#1162 [12:35] <minecrafter> kk
#1163 [12:35] <minecrafter> thanks
#1164 [12:35] <minecrafter> cya
#1165 [12:35] <minecrafter> :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:@D:D:D::D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:DD
#1166 [12:36] <AureliusM> messi: Thanks, your dxdiag shows this graphics card model: VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP
#1167 [12:36] <messi> do i need to update or do something to get minecraft to work with this?
#1168 [12:37] <AureliusM> messi: If you can, try to get drivers from via.com's site. I am also looking at the same time, but you may be quicker.
#1169 [12:38] <messi> is the via drivers download that i need?
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#1171 [12:42] <AureliusM> messi: I *believe* so, I am looking at http://www.via.com.tw/en/support/ and trying to find the driver for this Unichrome chipset
#1172 [12:42] <messi> thankyou
#1173 [12:43] <AureliusM> messi: ... but there website search just does not work for me. Can you try http://www.via.com.tw/en/support/drivers.jsp and see if you can select the choices in steps 1 to 4
#1174 [12:44] * AureliusM is seeing whether Firefox can work with via.com
#1174 [12:44] <messi> am in the website can you see from the dxdiag am i putting in microsoft windows then windows xp
#1175 [12:45] * AureliusM Firefox works with via.com, Opera does not
#1175 [12:47] <|Kiikun|Janus|> AureliusM.. why you using a blunderbus? http://kiichan.is-a-geek.net/If-Browsers-Were-Guns.jpg
#1176 [12:47] <AureliusM> messi: I *think* this might be it: http://downloads.viaarena.com/drivers/video/ProSavage/139365IShld.zip
#1177 [12:47] <|Kiikun|Janus|> oh wait.. wrong one :P
#1178 [12:48] <messi> do i open or save it?
#1179 [12:48] <|Kiikun|Janus|> save then open
#1180 [12:48] <AureliusM> messi: I followed Microsoft Windows / Windows XP / Integrated Graphics / S3 ProSavage IGP
#1181 [12:49] <messi> shall i try opening minecraft again now ?
#1182 [12:49] <AureliusM> |Kiikun|Janus: I have several browsers, but Firefox is a memory hog
#1183 [12:50] <AureliusM> |Kiikun|Janus: And Chrome dissappointed me greatly. I may go back to using lynx...
#1184 [12:51] <AureliusM> messi: wait, no, you need to install the driver first
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#1186 [12:53] <AureliusM> messi: O waith, I see that 139365IShld.zip is older than what you already have.
#1187 [12:53] <AureliusM> messi: Oh wait, I meant to type
#1188 [12:54] <messi> oh can i uninstall and do again?
#1189 [12:55] <AureliusM> messi: I do not think it installed. It would have asked you to reboot your computer
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#1191 [12:55] <messi> i went into the zip link above and then saved and open
#1192 [12:56] <AureliusM> messi: I am unable to find a Unichrome driver for your GPU and CPU. http://www.s3graphics.com/en/products/class2.aspx?seriesId=14 lists several but none for the AMD Sempron.
#1193 [12:58] <AureliusM> messi: wait, I am searching from here instead: http://www.s3graphics.com/en/drivers/index.aspx
#1194 [12:58] <jonathon> hey AureliusM
#1195 [12:58] <messi> thank you
#1196 [12:58] <jonathon> u remember me
#1197 [12:59] <|Kiikun|Janus|> messi: you happen to be on an hp?
#1198 [13:00] <messi> sorry what does that mean?
#1199 [13:00] <|Kiikun|Janus|> nm then
#1200 [13:00] <AureliusM> messi: and .. that does not find any drivers for the Unichrome either. Can you browse to http://www.s3graphics.com/en/drivers/index.aspx and try their Windows utility WinS3ID.EXE link below the "Download utility to find your S3 graphics chip:" ?
#1201 [13:00] <AureliusM> jonathon: ah yes, I remember you
#1202 [13:00] * GreyVulpine coughs at AureliusM
#1202 [13:00] <jonathon> AureliusM are u there i need to know the website u sent me to yesterday
#1203 [13:01] <Grim_Reaper> Poor AureliusM. He now has GreyVulpine's cough
#1204 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> S3 video card, on less than half a gig of RAM?
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#1206 [13:01] <jonathon> the one that told me i had to shut down my computer
#1207 [13:01] <AureliusM> GreyVulpine: yep, I know it might be a lost cause...
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#1209 [13:02] <jonathon> hellow AureliusM i need to know
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#1211 [13:03] <AureliusM> messi: sorry about that, it looks like your machine has too little memory and too weak a graphics processor to play minecraft
#1212 [13:03] <AureliusM> jonathon: remind me at what stage you had got too.
#1213 [13:03] <|Kiikun|Janus|> AureliusM: o.o!! i woulda given up at seeing 500mb ram.
#1214 [13:04] <DopeGhoti> AureliusM: "World 3-2"
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#1216 [13:04] <messi> does that mean i would need to take it to someone to have those things changed?
#1217 [13:04] <|Kiikun|Janus|> DopeGhoti: did you build a warp-pipe?
#1218 [13:04] <DopeGhoti> |Kiikun|Janus|: can't do that until world 4-2 now.
#1219 [13:04] <jonathon> u and claron1 had me install the second graphics thing
#1220 [13:04] <AureliusM> |Kiikun|Janus: Might have got classic running at least, or minecraft with -Xmx 180M, I managed it for 5 minutes with 400 MB
#1221 [13:04] <findow> hi i made a sever it wok last night now no one but me can join
#1222 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> findow: make more friends?
#1223 [13:05] <|Kiikun|Janus|> messi: considering the age of most of that hardware... i think you might need a new computer.
#1224 [13:05] <findow> 'yeah u think
#1225 [13:05] <findow> seriously
#1226 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> I think it's six meat blocks and two cloth blocks.
#1227 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> (each)
#1228 [13:06] <findow> it work last night now no1 can join
#1229 [13:06] <DopeGhoti> they'll usually only makes stacks of two, though, so they're not too efficient to carrt around.
#1230 [13:06] <|Kiikun|Janus|> DopeGhoti: 7 meat and 3 cloth is you want female friends, right? :P
#1231 [13:06] <DopeGhoti> |Kiikun|Janus|: no, still six meat blocks; just in a different configuration.
#1232 [13:07] <findow> guys
#1233 [13:07] <jonathon> AureliusM are u there
#1234 [13:07] <DopeGhoti> findow: what is your server address?
#1235 [13:07] <|Kiikun|Janus|> findow: did you turn the computer off between last night and now?
#1236 [13:07] <AureliusM> jonathon: ok, yes I'm here; I'm catching up on the conversation at http://kealper.com/irclogs/index.a3w?date=2012-01-10 and http://kealper.com/irclogs/index.a3w?date=2012-01-9
#1237 [13:08] <findow> guys real qucik if my router got DCed would i need to change the sever ip when i re connect it
#1238 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> ??> findow ip/external
#1239 [13:08] <VoxelHead> findow: (ip/external) Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/
#1240 [13:08] <|Kiikun|Janus|> !check 69.151.250.215
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#1242 [13:08] <jonathon> what is this
#1243 [13:08] <|Kiikun|Janus|> jonathon: he's reading the logs :P
#1244 [13:09] <jonathon> k
#1245 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> jonathon: This - Pronoun:
#1246 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> Used to identify a specific person or thing close at hand or being indicated or experienced
#1247 [13:09] <findow> so
#1248 [13:09] <|Kiikun|Janus|> DopeGhoti: idea. add ??dict <word> to vox.
#1249 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> |Kiikun|Janus|: I was thinking ?define (:
#1250 [13:10] <|Kiikun|Janus|> heh
#1251 [13:10] <|Kiikun|Janus|> findow: your server works. your ip is 69.151.250.215
#1252 [13:10] <AureliusM> jonathon: some of the IRC log appears to be misisng, so I can't find your pastebins or the website I linked to
#1253 [13:10] <findow> so anyone shold be able to join right
#1254 [13:10] <|Kiikun|Janus|> findow: the links vox spewed will give you your external ip
#1255 [13:10] <|Kiikun|Janus|> findow: yes.
#1256 [13:11] <jonathon> so what do i do
#1257 [13:11] <findow> ok but if my router power got dc would tht change my ip when i puged it in
#1258 [13:11] <|Kiikun|Janus|> AureliusM: the DDoS probably borked the logging
#1259 [13:11] <AureliusM> jonathon: I'm guessing it was a driver. I found: #1104 [20:29] <jonathon> i could not work minecraft then they helped me work it and know my brother uninstalled the program
#1260 [13:11] <|Kiikun|Janus|> findow: yes it will. then you go to one of those sites and it will tell you your new external ip
#1261 [13:12] <AureliusM> jonathon: can you do a dxdiag again?
#1262 [13:12] <AureliusM> ??> jonathon win\dxdiag
#1263 [13:12] <jonathon> again
#1264 [13:12] <jonathon> :(
#1265 [13:12] <findow> and from there i have to change the MC sever info?
#1266 [13:12] <|Kiikun|Janus|> jonathon: were basicly fixing you again :P
#1267 [13:13] <jonathon> k
#1268 [13:13] <AureliusM> jonathon: yes, the driver may have changed again
#1269 [13:13] <|Kiikun|Janus|> findow: no. your server works.
#1270 [13:13] <jonathon> how do i get to the pastebin
#1271 [13:13] <findow> so why can no1 join?
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#1273 [13:13] <|Kiikun|Janus|> findow: because they are using the wrong ip
#1274 [13:13] <jonathon> findow what is your server adress
#1275 [13:13] <findow> ok so how do i give them the right one
#1276 [13:14] <AureliusM> ??> jonathon win/dxdiag
#1277 [13:14] <VoxelHead> jonathon: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1278 [13:14] <VoxelHead> jonathon: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1279 [13:14] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> findow dont/pebcak
#1280 [13:14] <VoxelHead> findow: (dont/pebcak) If you can't understand our (generally) basic instructions, please don't even bother wasting our time if you won't listen. Fixing problems requires some amount of self-help ability, to say nothing of literacy and the ability to follow directions..
#1281 [13:14] <VoxelHead> findow: (dont/pebcak) Keep in mind we are all volunteers - if you need more help, hire a professional.
#1282 [13:14] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> findow ip/external
#1283 [13:14] <VoxelHead> findow: (ip/external) Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/
#1284 [13:15] <findow> right i just try to understand
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#1286 [13:15] <findow> get ip address and give it to them right
#1287 [13:15] <vIMT0> Hello
#1288 [13:15] <|Kiikun|Janus|> findow: yes.
#1289 [13:15] <AureliusM> jonathon: about your past pastebins, you could check your browser history
#1290 [13:15] <AureliusM> jonathon: but we need a fresh dxdiag anyway
#1291 [13:15] <findow> and have them plug it at add a sever right
#1292 [13:15] <|Kiikun|Janus|> findow: yes.
#1293 [13:15] <vIMT0> Anyone free to help?
#1294 [13:15] <vIMT0> Will wait if busy
#1295 [13:16] <findow> and the ip is the external ip
#1296 [13:16] <jonathon> k
#1297 [13:16] <jonathon> http://pastebin.com/y7kYqKUj
#1298 [13:16] <jonathon> there
#1299 [13:16] <|Kiikun|Janus|> findow: yes.
#1300 [13:16] <jonathon> brb
#1301 [13:16] <findow> ok
#1302 [13:18] <AureliusM> jonathon: ok, Time of this report: 1/10/2012, 11:05:50, Card name: Intel(R) 82945G Express, I remember now
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#1304 [13:18] <ZombieSalesman> Hello?
#1305 [13:18] <vIMT0> Anyone know how I can open my LAN multiplayer map in single player?
#1306 [13:19] <|Kiikun|Janus|> vIMT0: copy the world folder from server into your saves folder
#1307 [13:19] <jonathon> k
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#1309 [13:19] <vIMT0> I'm running the client, and can't find any root folder for minecraft or mojang
#1310 [13:19] <jonathon> what was the web adress not the installation that would never work the second one
#1311 [13:20] <|Kiikun|Janus|> vIMT0: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, LCARS, or Atari 2600?
#1312 [13:20] <ZombieSalesman> I'm having trouble starting up the game. Whenever I hit login, it goes through the quick loading thing, but then it's a black screen. No mods are installed or anything.
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#1314 [13:20] <sage1331> help
#1315 [13:20] <vIMT0> windows 7, i tried extracting the client (Minecraft.exe) with win rar but theres no saves folder in there
#1316 [13:20] <sage1331> i need help with my minecraft
#1317 [13:20] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> vIMT0 win/.minecraft
#1318 [13:20] <VoxelHead> vIMT0: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#1319 [13:20] <AureliusM> jonathon: ? the direct link to the exe file? I can't remember the details
#1320 [13:21] <vIMT0> ok, will try that, thank you
#1321 [13:21] <jonathon> the one that claron1 gave me that took less memmory
#1322 [13:22] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ZombieSalesman: what version of java you using?
#1323 [13:22] <vIMT0> Found it, thanks alot guys appreciate it
#1324 [13:22] <|Kiikun|Janus|> vIMT0: no prob :3
#1325 [13:22] <ZombieSalesman> I've updated it before, I'll try it again then report back.
#1326 [13:22] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ZombieSalesman: DONT use java 7. and make sure you are using 64bit if youre able
#1327 [13:23] <vIMT0> This means I can edit mine and my brothers map without horrible lag
#1328 [13:23] <AureliusM> jonathon: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=16835&ProdId=2102&lang=eng <-- I think it's this one
#1329 [13:24] <AureliusM> jonathon: Oh, you mean the batch command file?
#1330 [13:24] <|Kiikun|Janus|> http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh this?
#1331 [13:25] <AureliusM> jonathon: Oh, you mean the batch command file? Might have been this one: http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#1332 [13:25] <jonathon> that is my old pastebin
#1333 [13:25] <AureliusM> jonathon: Try the one Janus linked to. http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#1334 [13:25] <sage1331> Qube:my minecraft stoped opening yesterday my brother and i where playing on my server (hamachi) and all are programs shut down and my brothers computer turned off and since then i cant run minecraft we run windows 7 and 64 bit now i cant run minecraft it says would ypou like to run this program i click run and nothing happens and my server dose not run
#1335 [13:26] <jonathon> got it thanks by
#1336 [13:26] <jonathon> i mean bye
#1337 [13:26] <sage1331> and if i go to browser it dose not work my brother has same problem please help
#1338 [13:26] <ZombieSalesman> I only have access to 32bit Windows XP and Java 6 Update 30
#1339 [13:27] <sage1331> please help
#1340 [13:27] <sage1331> my minecraft stoped opening yesterday my brother and i where playing on my server (hamachi) and all are programs shut down and my brothers computer turned off and since then i cant run minecraft we run windows 7 and 64 bit now i cant run minecraft it says would ypou like to run this program i click run and nothing happens and my server dose not run
#1341 [13:27] <sage1331> and if i go to browser it dose not work my brother has same problem please help
#1342 [13:28] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ZombieSalesman: already tried doing a force update?
#1343 [13:28] <sage1331> please help
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#1345 [13:28] <ZombieSalesman> I did, downloaded the Jabva Update now, it;s stuck on one bar left of progress.
#1346 [13:28] <sage1331> my minecraft stoped opening yesterday my brother and i where playing on my server (hamachi) and all are programs shut down and my brothers computer turned off and since then i cant run minecraft we run windows 7 and 64 bit now i cant run minecraft it says would ypou like to run this program i click run and nothing happens and my server dose not run
#1347 [13:28] <AureliusM> sage1331: does minecraft on its own work?
#1348 [13:29] <sage1331> =no
#1349 [13:29] <sage1331> i hav no mods
#1350 [13:29] <AureliusM> sage1331: Try launch minecraft then click Options then click Force Update
#1351 [13:29] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ZombieSalesman: so the download is stalling? happen to be stalling on lwjgl?
#1352 [13:30] <sage1331> the launcher wont come up
#1353 [13:30] <ZombieSalesman> It finished, attempting again now.
#1354 [13:30] <AureliusM> sage1331: what error message do you get?
#1355 [13:30] <ZombieSalesman> Aaand, Blackscreen.
#1356 [13:30] <AureliusM> sage1331: Did you download minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/download ?
#1357 [13:30] <sage1331> no error message just i click run and nothing happens
#1358 [13:30] <sage1331> yes
#1359 [13:31] <|Kiikun|Janus|> sage1331: no hs_err_pid files?
#1360 [13:31] <sage1331> i have had minecraft for a few months
#1361 [13:31] <sage1331> computer
#1362 [13:32] <sage1331> on this computer
#1363 [13:32] <AureliusM> sage1331: try download a fresh copy from minecraft.net/download
#1364 [13:32] <sage1331> i did that
#1365 [13:32] <AureliusM> sage1331: when?
#1366 [13:32] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ZombieSalesman: um... it did work before, correct?
#1367 [13:33] <AureliusM> sage1331: after the computer shut down yesterday?
#1368 [13:33] <ZombieSalesman> It's worked on another computer of mine with the same OS, but that's since stopped working.
#1369 [13:33] <sage1331> yesterday and my computer did not shut down
#1370 [13:34] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ZombieSalesman: ok. this is on windows?
#1371 [13:34] <sage1331> yes
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#1373 [13:34] <ZombieSalesman> Windows XP Service Pack 3, yes
#1374 [13:34] <AureliusM> sage1331: hmm, have you tried the minecraft.jar version ?
#1375 [13:34] <INEEDHELP> plz help
#1376 [13:34] <sage1331> ??? whats that
#1377 [13:34] <AureliusM> sage1331: See http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#1378 [13:35] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ZombieSalesman: does the windows username contain an ! or other odd character?
#1379 [13:35] <INEEDHELP> i got a mod it took for every now it dose not work
#1380 [13:35] <sage1331> brb
#1381 [13:35] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> INEEDHELP mods
#1382 [13:35] <VoxelHead> INEEDHELP: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1383 [13:35] <VoxelHead> INEEDHELP: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1384 [13:35] <ZombieSalesman> My User Name? No it does not.
#1385 [13:35] <INEEDHELP> no thats not it minecarft wont work now
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#1387 [13:36] <INEEDHELP> never mind
#1388 [13:36] <ZombieSalesman> I tried running Minecraft in Browser, I get a crash report.
#1389 [13:36] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ZombieSalesman: your user name in windows. specificly the folder for %userprofile%
#1390 [13:37] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ZombieSalesman: an hs_err_pid? or browser crash?
#1391 [13:37] <ZombieSalesman> It crashes in both, but I disabled the HS_ERR files because they were cluttering my Desktop
#1392 [13:37] <AureliusM> INEEDHELP: try Options Force Update
#1393 [13:37] <ZombieSalesman> I also get a Browser Crash Report.
#1394 [13:37] * |Kiikun|Janus| baps ZombieSalesman
#1394 [13:37] <AureliusM> ??> INEEDHELP forceupdate
#1395 [13:37] <VoxelHead> INEEDHELP: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1396 [13:38] <VoxelHead> INEEDHELP: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1397 [13:38] <ZombieSalesman> Baps?
#1398 [13:38] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ZombieSalesman: hs_err_pid files tell us WHERE its crashing
#1399 [13:38] <ZombieSalesman> I have one though
#1400 [13:38] <|Kiikun|Janus|> think rolled up newspaper to the head.
#1401 [13:38] <ZombieSalesman> From about mid summer.
#1402 [13:38] <ZombieSalesman> Same thing was happening.
#1403 [13:39] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ZombieSalesman: put the most recent one onto www.pastebin.com and give us the link
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#1405 [13:41] <ZombieSalesman> Here it is: http://pastebin.com/ELMYZNnj
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#1407 [13:43] <ZombieSalesman> Voice?
#1408 [13:43] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ZombieSalesman: ok. ill admit this is the first time ive seen OpenAL crashes.... gimme a second to doublecheck paths.
#1409 [13:44] <ZombieSalesman> |Kiikun|Janus|: Okay
#1410 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> time: Wed Jul 20 17:20:41 2011
#1411 [13:45] <AureliusM> I've seen crashes after OpenAL I think we tried a reinstall of Java
#1412 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> This is an OLD error log
#1413 [13:45] <ZombieSalesman> Most recent one I have...
#1414 [13:45] <ZombieSalesman> And it is the same problem.
#1415 [13:45] <|Kiikun|Janus|> you SURE its the same problem? and not just one with similar symptoms?
#1416 [13:46] <ZombieSalesman> I am sure.\
#1417 [13:46] * |Kiikun|Janus| isnt even sure where to get other openal drivers.
#1417 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> creative's site
#1418 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> or lwjgl
#1419 [13:47] <ZombieSalesman> I use a Sony Vaio Laptop, anything to do with it?
#1420 [13:48] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ZombieSalesman: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#1421 [13:48] <ZombieSalesman> I'll try tgat, gimme a couple mi
#1422 [13:49] <ZombieSalesman> nutees
#1423 [13:49] <|Kiikun|Janus|> and use 2.8.1, not 2.8.2
#1424 [13:50] * GreyVulpine shakes
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#1425 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> 2.7.1
#1426 [13:50] <|Kiikun|Janus|> or that. just going by wiki
#1427 [13:50] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :P
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#1430 [13:50] <sapphire> I've been looking on the forums with no luck... so i will try here.. i have a core 2 duo laptop (2.1ghz 3mb cache, 4gb ram, Intel 965 GFX) all i can get is a black screen on minecraft??? any idea's?? the is an UNMODDED minecraft install
#1431 [13:50] <sage1331> my minecraft stoped opening yesterday my brother and i where playing on my server (hamachi) and all are programs shut down and my brothers computer turned off and since then i cant run minecraft we run windows 7 and 64 bit now i cant run minecraft it says would ypou like to run this program i click run and nothing happens and my server dose not run
#1432 [13:51] <sage1331> please help
#1433 [13:51] <sage1331> my minecraft stoped opening yesterday my brother and i where playing on my server (hamachi) and all are programs shut down and my brothers computer turned off and since then i cant run minecraft we run windows 7 and 64 bit now i cant run minecraft it says would ypou like to run this program i click run and nothing happens and my server dose not run
#1434 [13:51] * |Kiichan|Schala| [|Kiichan|Schala|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1435 [13:51] <|Kiichan|Schala|> o.o;
#1436 [13:51] <sage1331> my minecraft stoped opening yesterday my brother and i where playing on my server (hamachi) and all are programs shut down and my brothers computer turned off and since then i cant run minecraft we run windows 7 and 64 bit now i cant run minecraft it says would ypou like to run this program i click run and nothing happens and my server dose not run
#1437 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> !k sage1331
#1438 [13:51] * GreyBot kicked sage1331 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: age1331 :<Kicks:897>)
#1439 [13:51] <sapphire> spam much
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#1441 [13:52] <sapphire> could anyone help me with my issues?
#1442 [13:52] <sage1331> my minecraft stoped opening yesterday my brother and i where playing on my server (hamachi) and all are programs shut down and my brothers computer turned off and since then i cant run minecraft we run windows 7 and 64 bit now i cant run minecraft it says would ypou like to run this program i click run and nothing happens and my server dose not run
#1443 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> sapphire - Has minecraft ever worked for you/
#1444 [13:52] <AureliusM> sage1331: hi, I last pointed you to the batch file for minecraft.jar
#1445 [13:52] <AureliusM> sage1331: did that work?
#1446 [13:52] <sage1331> yeah i tryed it and it did not work
#1447 [13:53] <sapphire> GreyVulpine: no, it used to say something about bad video card drivers but recently (since the 1.0 update) it does just a black screen which is progress haha
#1448 [13:53] <AureliusM> sage1331: what error message appeared in the black command window?
#1449 [13:53] <sage1331> it says
#1450 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> sapphire - What operating system are you on?
#1451 [13:53] <AureliusM> sage1331: wait
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#1453 [13:53] <AureliusM> sage1331: use pastebin
#1454 [13:53] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :pastebin
#1455 [13:53] <WugBot> pastebin: Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#1456 [13:53] <AureliusM> sage1331: otherwise the bot might get kicky again
#1457 [13:53] <sage1331> ava is not reconized as an external command
#1458 [13:54] <sapphire> GreyVulpine: windows 7
#1459 [13:54] <sage1331> java
#1460 [13:54] <sapphire> (x64)
#1461 [13:54] <AureliusM> sage1331: Java not recognized. Ok click Start / Control Panel and look for the Java icon
#1462 [13:54] <|Kiichan|Schala|> sage1331: you have to put the full path to java then. c:\
#1463 [13:54] <|Kiichan|Schala|> blarh
#1464 [13:55] <|Kiichan|Schala|> C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe
#1465 [13:56] <sage1331> java wont open
#1466 [13:56] <sage1331> i might have the wronge one i have 64 it says 32 bit
#1467 [13:57] <AureliusM> sage1331: yes, try what |Kiichan|Schala| posted above: click Start and type "c:\Program Files\Java\" and then press Enter, no quotes
#1468 [13:57] <AureliusM> sage1331: and, what happened when you clicked Start and then Control Panel, was there a Java icon there?
#1469 [13:57] <sage1331> yes
#1470 [13:58] <AureliusM> sage1331: ok, try click Start and type "c:\Program Files (x86)\Java" and press Enter, does it find it there?
#1471 [13:59] <sage1331> jr6 and jr7
#1472 [13:59] <AureliusM> sage1331: click Start and then Control Panel, click the Java icon and does it open? May have to double click it.
#1473 [14:00] <|Kiikun|> dont use java 7. causes more problems than its worth
#1474 [14:00] <|Kiikun|> and use 64bit since youre able.
#1475 [14:00] <|Kiikun|> :j
#1476 [14:00] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#1477 [14:01] <ZombieSalesman> It won't let me change the LWJGL.Dll file from the 2.8.1 download.
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#1479 [14:01] <sage1331> ok it wont let me in the controle panle and it wont ope but when i tryed opening this c:\Program Files (x86)\Java i got jre6 and jre7
#1480 [14:01] <|Kiikun|> ZombieSalesman: the files probably stil loaded in memory.
#1481 [14:01] <AureliusM> sage1331: We'll try to uninstall all Java and then install only Java 6, as per WugBot
#1482 [14:02] <ZombieSalesman> Stop running Java.exe as a Process in Task Manager, will that owkr?
#1483 [14:02] <AureliusM> sage1331: http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp <--
#1484 [14:02] <|Kiikun|> ZombieSalesman: possibly. dont think it woudl ham anything besides running java apps
#1485 [14:05] <ZombieSalesman> Just installed LWJGL gonna try again.
#1486 [14:06] <ZombieSalesman> Got a crash report from Minecraft.
#1487 [14:06] <ZombieSalesman> You want me to Pastebin it?
#1488 [14:07] <|Kiikun|> ZombieSalesman: yes.
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#1491 [14:10] <ZombieSalesman> Alright: http://pastebin.com/n0ue3ghH
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#1493 [14:12] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: this the reason you were saying 2.7.1?
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#1495 [14:12] <sage13331> ok im back i unistalled java and it shut my internet explore down it me sage1331
#1496 [14:13] <sage13331> hello
#1497 [14:13] <sage13331> hello can any one help
#1498 [14:14] <AureliusM> sage1331: ok, so if Java is uninstalled follow http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html
#1499 [14:14] <ZombieSalesman> Here's my craSH REPORT: http://pastebin.com/n0ue3ghH
#1500 [14:15] <sage13331> ok its installing
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#1502 [14:15] <|Kiikun|> ZombieSalesman: i saw. try updating your video drivers... could also be why grey was saying to use 2.7.1 and not 2.8.1
#1503 [14:15] <sage13331> ok it installed
#1504 [14:16] <AureliusM> sage1331: Did you check the Java version ? Start / Control Panel / Java / View
#1505 [14:18] <AureliusM> sage1331: If that shows just Product Name 1.6_something ( same thing as Java 6), then try that batch file for minecraft.jar again.
#1506 [14:19] <sage13331> ok i clicked view and it poped up alot of stuff
#1507 [14:20] <ZombieSalesman> Ima try again with 2.7.1
#1508 [14:20] <AureliusM> sage1331: ? a lot? It should display just one Java product? One line.
#1509 [14:21] <ZombieSalesman> So do I do Run - DXDiag to find my Graphics Card?
#1510 [14:21] <sage13331> stuff like skin preview and stuff
#1511 [14:22] <AureliusM> sage1331: Try Start / Control Panel / Java / About
#1512 [14:22] <sage13331> ok
#1513 [14:22] <sage13331> java 6
#1514 [14:23] <ZombieSalesman> Kiikun|
#1515 [14:23] <sage13331> version 6
#1516 [14:23] <sage13331> update 30
#1517 [14:23] <ZombieSalesman> |Kiikun|: Do you needto know my Graphics Card name?
#1518 [14:24] <sage13331> version 6 update 30
#1519 [14:24] <AureliusM> sage1331: Ok, that's correct. But double check Start / Control Panel / Java / click the Java tab and click the View button
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#1521 [14:25] <|Kiikun|> ZombieSalesman: nvidia geforce, amd/ati raedon, intel bunchanumbers/gma, or something else?
#1522 [14:25] <sage13331> ok i went back to that and again alot of stuff
#1523 [14:25] * |Kiikun| is trying to get farm working before going to work
#1523 [14:26] <sage13331> like stuff from runescape and planet minecraft
#1524 [14:26] <ZombieSalesman> My graphics card is Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910 GMLExpress
#1525 [14:26] <sage13331> and mojong
#1526 [14:26] <sage13331> mojang
#1527 [14:26] <AureliusM> sage1331: hmm, wait I'm uploading an example of what you should see
#1528 [14:26] <sage13331> ok
#1529 [14:26] <AureliusM> sage1331: http://i.imgur.com/qITHg.png
#1530 [14:27] <sage13331> how do i show you mine
#1531 [14:27] <AureliusM> sage1331: Except you should see 1.6.0_30 and different Path
#1532 [14:27] <|Kiikun|> ?? gpu/intel
#1533 [14:27] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1534 [14:27] <sage13331> im rescorces
#1535 [14:27] <sage13331> resources
#1536 [14:27] <ZombieSalesman> I'll get back to you after I try that,
#1537 [14:28] <AureliusM> sage1331: do a screen shot: hold down the alt key and press Screenshot button
#1538 [14:28] <sage13331> where is screen shot
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#1540 [14:29] <AureliusM> sage1331: Check your Java comtrol panel looks a bit like this: http://www.dibol.de/vm/javproxy_en.jpg
#1541 [14:29] <AureliusM> sage1331: You should see tabs named: General Update Java Security and Advanced
#1542 [14:30] <sage13331> i dont have update
#1543 [14:30] <AureliusM> sage1331: Does it have View?
#1544 [14:30] <ZombieSalesman> What do I do once at the Download Center?
#1545 [14:30] <sage13331> in genreral
#1546 [14:32] <AureliusM> sage1331: List the tabs that you see in the java Control Panel
#1547 [14:33] <|Kiikun|> ZombieSalesman: XP?
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#1549 [14:33] <|Kiikun|> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=12536
#1550 [14:33] <sage13331> General,Java,Security,and Advanced
#1551 [14:34] <ZombieSalesman> Thanks I'll try that
#1552 [14:35] <sage13331> General,Java,Security,and Advanced
#1553 [14:36] <AureliusM> sage1331: Ok, click the Java tab
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#1555 [14:36] <sage13331> ohhhhhh
#1556 [14:36] <sage13331> 1.6
#1557 [14:36] <AureliusM> sage1331: Good, in case it helps here is an oracle page on the control panel: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/deployment/deployment-guide/jcp.html
#1558 [14:37] <sage13331> ok thanks
#1559 [14:37] <AureliusM> sage1331: Now, try the batch file which calls minecraft.jar.
#1560 [14:37] <sage13331> how do i do that
#1561 [14:38] <sage13331> its working thanks
#1562 [14:38] <AureliusM> sage1331: See http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#1563 [14:39] <sage13331> oh my god thank you so much
#1564 [14:39] <AureliusM> sage1331: Oh, good. Must have the Java that fixed it then.
#1565 [14:40] <sage13331> do you think i could try the one frm minecraft.net download
#1566 [14:40] <ZombieSalesman> Ima restart from the install see if it works.
#1567 [14:40] <ZombieSalesman> I'll be back
#1568 [14:41] <AureliusM> sage1331: Be careful not to install Java 7, just keep it at Java 6. Also, depending how much RAM your computer has, you might need to increase the 256 inside the Run.bat file to 512, or higher.
#1569 [14:41] <AureliusM> sage1331: Um, which one, the minecraft.exe ?
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#1571 [14:42] <sage13331> yes
#1572 [14:43] <sage13331> cause i have to help my brother
#1573 [14:43] <sage13331> and as bad as i am my brothers worse at computers
#1574 [14:43] <AureliusM> sage1331: That should work now, too
#1575 [14:44] <AureliusM> sage1331: Ie. it should work even without the bacth file, if you have enough RAM
#1576 [14:44] <sage13331> i do
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#1578 [14:45] <sage13331> bye
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#1581 [15:07] <ZombieSalesman> It did not work.
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#1590 [15:33] <pachuco> I cant run minecraft!!! Im trying to play it online but i cant
#1591 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you try?
#1592 [15:34] <pachuco> I just have a black screen
#1593 [15:34] <rherr1> i cant find .minecraft and minecraft will not start
#1594 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> pachuco - Has minecraft worked before?
#1595 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> rherr1 - What oeprating system are you on?
#1596 [15:35] <rherr1> yes
#1597 [15:35] <rherr1> windows
#1598 [15:35] <pachuco> this is my first time playing
#1599 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> rherr1 - What version of windows?
#1600 [15:35] <pachuco> Lion
#1601 [15:35] <rherr1> 7
#1602 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> rherr1 - Head to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#1603 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> rherr1 - You'll be able to find .minecraft there
#1604 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> pachuco - Are you playing classic or premium?
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#1606 [15:36] <pachuco> classic
#1607 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> Classic does not work on macs
#1608 [15:37] <rherr1> i checked its not there andi downloaded minecraft a few times and deleted too
#1609 [15:37] <OHYEAH> hi everyone, i have a question
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#1611 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> rherr1 - Does minecraft actually work for you?
#1612 [15:38] <rherr1> it dosnt even start
#1613 [15:38] <pachuco> how much do I have to pay to play in mac?
#1614 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> pachuco - Premium costs 20 euros
#1615 [15:38] <Wug> pachuco: minecraft is the same price for all platforms
#1616 [15:38] <Wug> if you have already bought it once, you do not need to buy it again
#1617 [15:38] <Wug> just download the launcher and login with your username and password
#1618 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> rherr1 - The launcher doesn't start at all?
#1619 [15:39] <rherr1> nope
#1620 [15:39] <Wug> rherr1: does a java icon appear in the start bar
#1621 [15:39] <Wug> but no window appears?
#1622 [15:39] <rherr1> no window no java and i have java
#1623 [15:40] <Wug> reinstall java
#1624 [15:40] <rherr1> i did
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#1626 [15:41] <Wug> did you uninstall all of the versions you had?
#1627 [15:41] <OHYEAH> *dont kill me please* i downloaded minecraft by illegal means abotu a week ago to make sure i would like the game before i buy the it... and i like it very much. I was wondering if i can move the worlds from this client to when i buy the game???
#1628 [15:42] <rherr1> yes
#1629 [15:42] <OHYEAH> how
#1630 [15:42] * GreyVulpine kicks
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#1631 [15:43] <Wug> OHYEAH: worry about that after you buy it
#1632 [15:43] <Wug> rest assured its possible
#1633 [15:43] <OHYEAH> kk stay with me please, buying atm
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#1635 [15:45] <OHYEAH> k purchase complete
#1636 [15:46] <OHYEAH> now where do i find those worlds
#1637 [15:46] <Bmac> I have downloaded minecraft on my son's computer as instructed.The account is paid for however I only get the prompt "not downloaded" when i try to sign in. anyone know how to get this connected. The application IS downloaded but not connecting with mine craft
#1638 [15:48] <rherr1> hello??
#1639 [15:49] <AureliusM> Bmac: Windows?
#1640 [15:49] <OHYEAH> i bought the game how do i get my worlds from this random client :'(
#1641 [15:49] <Morrolan> Windows, Mac OSX or Linux=
#1642 [15:49] <Morrolan> ? *
#1643 [15:50] <OHYEAH> me? im so confused but im windows 7 if me
#1644 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> OHYEAH - Minecraft username?
#1645 [15:50] <OHYEAH> IRONMAN43
#1646 [15:50] <rherr1> i still need help
#1647 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Bmac - The launcher does not contain any actual game files. It only downloads those files upon a successful login of a premium minecraft account
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#1649 [15:50] <Bmac> nevermind...i got it to work. persistence and repetition. thank you. Now how do I load his world he created on his friends account to his new account?
#1650 [15:51] <OHYEAH> oh wow
#1651 [15:51] <OHYEAH> i dont have to do anything
#1652 [15:51] <OHYEAH> my worlds r here :')
#1653 [15:51] <dak> my join server button is grayed out. why?
#1654 [15:51] <Morrolan> OHYEAH - If you're on the same computer then yes indeed.
#1655 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Bmac - Do you have physical access to the computer where your son created the world?
#1656 [15:51] <Bmac> yes,
#1657 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Bmac - What operating system is it running?
#1658 [15:51] <Bmac> is there a file I can transfer?
#1659 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Bmac - Yes
#1660 [15:52] <Morrolan> OHYEAH - If you ever need to transfer them to another computer, they're in %appdata%\.minecraft\saves
#1661 [15:52] <AureliusM> Bmac: If Windows, the world is saved in the folder %APPDATA%\.minecraft\saves\
#1662 [15:52] <OHYEAH> kk thanks alot
#1663 [15:52] <rherr1> how do i fix my probolem plz plz plz plz plz
#1664 [15:52] <OHYEAH> whats problem
#1665 [15:53] <AureliusM> Bmac: Each world is in its own folder inside /saves; so just copy the whole /saves/worldname (for example) to a USB stick and copy it to the destination computer
#1666 [15:53] <Bmac> operating system is lion
#1667 [15:53] <rherr1> .minecraft is not there and minecraft will not start and i redownloaded it and the same with java
#1668 [15:54] <Bmac> will saves folder be in "documents"?
#1669 [15:54] <AureliusM> Bmac: Ah, Mac I guess. I have no idea, pure guess somewhere in a Library folder?
#1670 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> On Lion, please press the command + shift + g keys to bring up the Go to Folder prompt
#1671 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> There, put in: ~/Library/Application support/minecraft
#1672 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> The world(s) wil be saved in the minecraft/saves/ folder
#1673 [15:55] <OHYEAH> lol why r minecraft files in appdata in first place and not program files?
#1674 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> That's just how Mojang set up minecraft to save its files
#1675 [15:56] <AureliusM> rherr1: What happens when you launch minecraft.exe ? Can you login ?
#1676 [15:56] <rherr1> my minecraft dosent even open
#1677 [15:56] <AureliusM> rherr1: No error message? Are you using Windows?
#1678 [15:57] <rherr1> no message yes windows 7
#1679 [15:57] <AureliusM> rherr1: You uninstalled all Java first then installed Java 6 ?
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#1682 [15:57] <dak> Why when i click multiplayer on the homescreen does my 'join server' button grayed out and unable to be clicked on???
#1683 [15:57] <Bmac> thx still trying. not finding saves folder still??
#1684 [15:58] <rherr1> yes
#1685 [15:58] <majkel> Hi, I have a problem. I had an account that was entered Minecraft gif-code which was a premium. Unfortunately, someone guessed my password and changed e-mail. Now in my account says that the account is not premium. Can I somehow save these account?. I spent the money and do not want to continue to play Minecraft.
#1686 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> majkel - There is no way of changing the email address in a minecraft account
#1687 [15:58] <AureliusM> rherr1: Has it ever worked on your computer? Downloaded minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/download ?
#1688 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> majkel - The real question is, did you purchase minecraft from minecraft.net, or a different site?
#1689 [15:59] <majkel> minecraft.net
#1690 [15:59] <rherr1> it worked before and i did redownload it
#1691 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Bmac - Are you putting in directly: "~/Library/Application Support/minecraft"
#1692 [15:59] <OHYEAH> multiplayer, where r the server lists
#1693 [15:59] <Bmac> ahh. found the saves folder. thank you guys!
#1694 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> ??> OHYEAH smp/servers
#1695 [15:59] <VoxelHead> OHYEAH: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1696 [15:59] <VoxelHead> OHYEAH: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
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#1698 [16:00] <majkel> Is it possible that someone has done it with my premium account is not premium?
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#1700 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> majkel - Are you sure you bought a gift code from minecraft.net?
#1701 [16:00] <majkel> yes
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#1703 [16:01] <AureliusM> rherr1: But it does not even launch now? Try the minecraft.jar by following these instructions: http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#1704 [16:01] <OHYEAH> thanks VoxelHead
#1705 [16:01] <Bmac> i am new to this and loading for my son. Is the $26.95 a monthly fee and is that paying for a premium account?
#1706 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Bmac - It's a one time fee for a premium account
#1707 [16:01] <rherr1> dosnt even launch ok i will
#1708 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> majkel - Then do a http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename on all email addresses you normally use. It'll give back an email with what usernames are registered, and which ones are premium
#1709 [16:03] <AureliusM> rherr1: the batch file from that link will show you any errors that might be the cause
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#1714 [16:04] <ZombieSalesman> Hi
#1715 [16:05] <Bmac> thank you greyvulpine
#1716 [16:05] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1716 [16:05] <dak> why is myjoinserver button unable to beclicked?
#1717 [16:06] <AureliusM> dak: No servers in list selected ?
#1718 [16:07] <dak> i dont have any to select
#1719 [16:07] <ZombieSalesman> You know how I was told to update my Graphics Drivers last time I was here?
#1720 [16:07] <AureliusM> dak: So that's why the Join Server is greyed. You need to Add server first.
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#1722 [16:08] <rherr1> now i works and is stuck on downloading packages
#1723 [16:08] <Wug> dak: use direct connect
#1724 [16:08] <Wug> or add server to add a server to the list
#1725 [16:09] * AureliusM forgot about Direct Connect
#1725 [16:09] <dak> direct connect didnt work but when i add server do i need the name of the server AND the ip address?
#1726 [16:09] <ZombieSalesman> I updated my Graphics Drivers and Minecraft still crashes when I try to play.
#1727 [16:09] <rherr1> wats the link again
#1728 [16:10] <Honathanjunter> I need help updating minecraft, i am on 1.5_01 and when i try to update it says fatal error (4) occured and access is denied, I have just bought paid version for minecraft and this is starting to annoy me now
#1729 [16:10] <AureliusM> dak: Join Server has two fields: Server Name = anything you want; and Server Address: must be the URL or domain name of the server
#1730 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> Honathanjunter - What is the full fatal error (4) message?
#1731 [16:10] <Honathanjunter> one moment
#1732 [16:10] <ZombieSalesman> I was in here earlier, but no solutions I was given worked.
#1733 [16:11] <Bmac> a little more help. I moved the Minecraft saves folder from the library of from the friend's computer to my son's computer and new account. It has not imported the worlds. How do I get it to recognize it?
#1734 [16:11] <AureliusM> dak: For example, try Direct Connect and enter mc.minecraftirc.net
#1735 [16:11] <Honathanjunter> fatal error occured (4): C:/users/Jonny Hunter/appData/Roaming/.minecraft\bin\lwjgl.jar (access is denied)
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#1737 [16:12] <AureliusM> rherr1: what link? http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2 ?
#1738 [16:12] <rherr1> i cant find the batch thing???
#1739 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Honathanjunter - Please go to C:/users/Jonny Hunter/appData/Roaming/.minecraft\, delete the bin folder. Then try turning off your security software and running minecraft again
#1740 [16:12] <OHYEAH> i joined this > mc.minecraftirc.net
#1741 [16:12] <OHYEAH> im just jumping in my spot cant move
#1742 [16:13] * OHYEAH [OHYEAH@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1743 [16:13] <ZombieSalesman> Could someone PLEASE help me?
#1744 [16:13] <AureliusM> rherr1: You tried that and saved the two lines into a file named run.bat on your desktop?
#1745 [16:13] <OHYEAH> ooooooooooo whats mc.minecraftirc.net im in it
#1746 [16:14] <OHYEAH> O.O
#1747 [16:14] <rherr1> minecraft is running but is updateing and is frozen on downloading packages
#1748 [16:14] <AureliusM> rherr1: Did I forget to ask whether what Windows version you have?
#1749 [16:14] <rherr1> i hav 7
#1750 [16:15] <AureliusM> OHYEAH: I see two players there myself. It's the official server for this IRC channel
#1751 [16:16] <OHYEAH> oh nice
#1752 [16:16] <OHYEAH> im ironman
#1753 [16:16] <rherr1> i have windows 7
#1754 [16:16] <ZombieSalesman> AureliusM: I was in here before, do you remember me?
#1755 [16:16] <AureliusM> OHYEAH: Yeah I guessed, the one with the defauilt skin.
#1756 [16:16] <OHYEAH> nop i have ironman skin
#1757 [16:17] <AureliusM> OHYEAH: Oh, I mixed up with the other guy there then.
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#1759 [16:17] <OHYEAH> grr this is disconnecting today strange
#1760 [16:18] <AureliusM> rherr1: When ypou followed those instructions did you do "save as" and ensure the name was run.bat ?
#1761 [16:18] <OHYEAH> im the only person on that server? lol
#1762 [16:18] <rherr1> yes
#1763 [16:18] <AureliusM> rherr1: And you can find the run.bat on your desktop ?
#1764 [16:19] <rherr1> yes
#1765 [16:19] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: I forget a lot.
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#1767 [16:19] <OHYEAH> can i not play in it? whe cant i chop tree
#1768 [16:19] <ZombieSalesman> :D
#1769 [16:19] <AureliusM> rherr1: Right mouse click over the run.bat and click Properties
#1770 [16:19] <rherr1> k
#1771 [16:20] <ZombieSalesman> But anyway, when I was in here earlier I was told to Update my Drivers. I did, and my game still crashes
#1772 [16:20] <AureliusM> rherr1: Is the name there run.bat ?
#1773 [16:20] <Honathanjunter> #GreyVulpine you are a life saver thank you for your help and support!
#1774 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Glad we could help
#1775 [16:21] <rherr1> yup
#1776 [16:21] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Can you paste the error message into a pastebin?
#1777 [16:21] <AureliusM> rherr1: Right mouse click over the run.bat again but this time click edit
#1778 [16:21] <Honathanjunter> I shall be recommending this website to my friends! thank you all x
#1779 [16:21] <ZombieSalesman> Alright, I will. I've done it before but I'll do it again.
#1780 [16:21] <rherr1> k
#1781 [16:22] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: I can't remembr all the error messages we see here! Can you link to where it was pasted before?
#1782 [16:22] <OHYEAH> why is mc.minecraftirc.net not letting me change blocks
#1783 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> Guests can't build without permission
#1784 [16:22] <AureliusM> rherr1: You should see a Notepad window showing two lines,
#1785 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> Prevents griefing
#1786 [16:22] <OHYEAH> oh what do i have to do to chop tree
#1787 [16:23] <rherr1> k
#1788 [16:23] <ZombieSalesman> I've restarted since then, Ima do it again. Sorry if I annoyed you with that comment :'(
#1789 [16:23] <AureliusM> rherr1: the first should be: java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1790 [16:23] <rherr1> yup
#1791 [16:23] <AureliusM> rherr1: the second should be: pause
#1792 [16:23] <ZombieSalesman> http://pastebin.com/6ruQPtd1
#1793 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> OHYEAH - If you want to play around in mc.minecraftirc.net, you'd first have to fill out an application at the forums at minecraftirc.net
#1794 [16:23] <rherr1> no pause
#1795 [16:24] <AureliusM> rherr1: Move the cursor to the end of the first line, hit Enter and type one word: pause
#1796 [16:24] <AureliusM> rherr1: Then click File, Save
#1797 [16:24] <OHYEAH> kk
#1798 [16:24] <Wug> someone should just teamviewer rherr1
#1799 [16:24] <rherr1> kk
#1800 [16:25] <Wug> :tv > rherr1
#1801 [16:25] <WugBot> rherr1: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1802 [16:25] <WugBot> rherr1: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1803 [16:25] <AureliusM> rherr1: find the run.bat on the desktop (that you just saved now) and double click it; watch for errors in the black command window
#1804 [16:26] <AureliusM> Wig: hmmm, yeah you're probably right, I was wondering if it was the path for java , or something else. But I have never used teamviewer
#1805 [16:26] <rherr1> k
#1806 [16:26] <AureliusM> Wug: ooops I meant Wug.
#1807 [16:27] <ZombieSalesman> Here's the link to my Crash Log, Aur http://pastebin.com/6ruQPtd1
#1808 [16:28] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: do you know how to update your drivers? We need a dxdiag to help find them for you.
#1809 [16:28] <rherr1> error duing instalation of VM
#1810 [16:28] <ZombieSalesman> I did so earlier, but it didn't work.
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#1812 [16:29] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: teh dxdiag did not work?
#1813 [16:29] <ZombieSalesman> Graphics Driver Update
#1814 [16:29] <ZombieSalesman> Did not work.
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#1816 [16:29] <helpplease> hey
#1817 [16:29] <ZombieSalesman> Didn't solve problem atleast.
#1818 [16:29] <helpplease> i need lot of helps
#1819 [16:29] <rherr1> how do i use team play work
#1820 [16:29] <jr753100> when ever i join a server i cant place or breakblocks after i open a chest or any interface can anyone help?
#1821 [16:29] <rherr1> teamview
#1822 [16:29] <helpplease> look, my silly brother was annoying me
#1823 [16:29] <helpplease> and deleted the folder
#1824 [16:29] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: what was the error? Did the driver not install? Or installed but Minecraft still reported bad drivers?
#1825 [16:29] <helpplease> at application support
#1826 [16:30] <ZombieSalesman> Still reported bad drivers: http://pastebin.com/6ruQPtd1
#1827 [16:30] <helpplease> and now all my maps died, but my question is
#1828 [16:30] <helpplease> when i download minecraft again
#1829 [16:30] <helpplease> i just recieve
#1830 [16:30] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: can you do another dxdiag ?
#1831 [16:30] <helpplease> "not downloaded"
#1832 [16:30] <AureliusM> ??> ZombieSalesman win/dxdiag
#1833 [16:30] <VoxelHead> ZombieSalesman: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1834 [16:30] <helpplease> help?
#1835 [16:30] <VoxelHead> ZombieSalesman: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1836 [16:30] <jr753100> this only happens on servers
#1837 [16:31] <rherr1> aureliusM it said error during instalation of VM
#1838 [16:31] <ZombieSalesman> Got it I kno whow t odo it.
#1839 [16:31] <ZombieSalesman> Sorry for typoes
#1840 [16:31] <helpplease> ugh
#1841 [16:31] <helpplease> nmmh
#1842 [16:31] <helpplease> zombie
#1843 [16:31] <helpplease> can i download the aplication support folder
#1844 [16:31] <helpplease> from somewhere?
#1845 [16:31] <helpplease> lol
#1846 [16:32] <helpplease> ?
#1847 [16:32] <helpplease> ....
#1848 [16:32] <ZombieSalesman> Do you know where Recycling Bin is?
#1849 [16:32] <helpplease> it got deleted there too
#1850 [16:32] <helpplease> i am a mac user.
#1851 [16:33] <ZombieSalesman> I can't help then. I',m a PC.
#1852 [16:33] <helpplease> it is almost the same as i now
#1853 [16:33] <helpplease> ?
#1854 [16:33] <AureliusM> rherr1: What, the run.bat said error during instalation of VM ? Or teamviewer ?
#1855 [16:34] <helpplease> ?
#1856 [16:34] <rherr1> yes error and someone said something about teamviewer
#1857 [16:34] <AureliusM> helpplease: I see your message but I have no Mac experience, please wait for a helper to answer
#1858 [16:34] <helpplease> lol
#1859 [16:34] <helpplease> ):
#1860 [16:34] <AureliusM> rherr1: Ok, the black command window had the error message?
#1861 [16:34] <helpplease> fml
#1862 [16:35] <rherr1> yes
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#1864 [16:35] <AureliusM> ??> helpplease patience
#1865 [16:35] <VoxelHead> helpplease: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#1866 [16:35] <helpplease> all my maps, gfed
#1867 [16:35] <VoxelHead> helpplease: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#1868 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> "the error message"
#1869 [16:35] <helpplease> yup i will wait
#1870 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> ?? specific
#1871 [16:35] <CaelThunderwing> umm/.
#1872 [16:35] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#1873 [16:35] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#1874 [16:35] <CaelThunderwing> is auth down?
#1875 [16:35] <helpplease> i'm just sad cause my maps won't come back
#1876 [16:35] <helpplease> lol
#1877 [16:36] <rherr1> yes
#1878 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> CaelThunderwing: not that I am aware of.
#1879 [16:36] <CaelThunderwing> my friend cant login to his server . he gets "Faile dto verify Username"
#1880 [16:36] <AureliusM> rherr1: In that black command window please copy the whole error message. Like this: right mouse click over the top left corner and click select all; then right mouse click over the top left corner and click copy.
#1881 [16:36] <ZombieSalesman> AureliusM: It dstill says bad Graphics Drivers as seen here: http://pastebin.com/6ruQPtd1
#1882 [16:37] <AureliusM> rherr1: oops, I missd a bit: right mouse click over the top left corner and click edit and then click select all
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#1884 [16:37] <CaelThunderwing> the IP for his server is 142.167.66.142:25566
#1885 [16:37] <CaelThunderwing> i forgot AuBot's Server check ! command.
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#1887 [16:38] <rherr1> its not pasteing
#1888 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> !check 142.167.66.142:25566
#1889 [16:39] <AureliusM> rherr1: wait, you did the copy right ?
#1890 [16:39] <helpplease> aare you guys lagging?
#1891 [16:39] <mib_jvpell> rupertthehunter
#1892 [16:39] <rherr1> no
#1893 [16:39] <AureliusM> rherr1: In that black command window please copy the whole error message. Like this: right mouse click over the top left corner and click edit then click select all; then right mouse click over the top left corner and click edit then click copy.
#1894 [16:40] <rherr1> its not pasting?
#1895 [16:40] <mib_jvpell> I have just signed up to mindcraft and can,t for the life set it up to play a game for my 8yrs old to play please help
#1896 [16:41] <helpplease> 8 years old, mmh if your kid can play this, he is pretty intelligent :3
#1897 [16:41] * AureliusM is still installing teamviewer
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#1898 [16:41] <AureliusM> rherr1: wait, now go to pastebin.com
#1899 [16:42] <rherr1> k
#1900 [16:42] <ZombieSalesman> AureliusM, I've got the PasteBin link
#1901 [16:42] <AureliusM> ??> rherr1 pastebin
#1902 [16:42] <VoxelHead> rherr1: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1903 [16:42] <whiteguy> i sent a email to help@mojang.com and how long should it take to get a response? if you know
#1904 [16:43] * helpplease lol
#1904 [16:43] <rherr1> http://pastebin.com/GeVjd4Gz
#1905 [16:43] * helpplease does it make a sound when someone answers me?
#1905 [16:44] <helpplease> ?
#1906 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> helpplease: It depends on your IRC client.
#1907 [16:44] <AureliusM> rherr1: Ok, I see the "Error occurred during initialization of VM"; We will now uninstall all Java and install only Java 6.
#1908 [16:44] <helpplease> any mac helper on?
#1909 [16:44] <rherr1> ok u do that
#1910 [16:44] <AureliusM> rherr1: to uninstall all Java see: http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp
#1911 [16:45] <ZombieSalesman> AureliusM
#1912 [16:46] <helpplease> ...
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#1914 [16:46] <just> ...
#1915 [16:46] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: post the URL here
#1916 [16:46] <ZombieSalesman> http://pastebin.com/6ruQPtd1
#1917 [16:47] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: that's the error log, we need a dxdiag:
#1918 [16:47] <just> lol
#1919 [16:47] <AureliusM> ??> ZombieSalesman win/dxdiag
#1920 [16:47] <just> zombie is A BOT
#1921 [16:47] <VoxelHead> ZombieSalesman: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1922 [16:47] <just> WHYYYY
#1923 [16:47] <VoxelHead> ZombieSalesman: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1924 [16:47] <just> ):
#1925 [16:47] <just> oh not him
#1926 [16:47] <just> rofl
#1927 [16:48] <ZombieSalesman> http://pastebin.com/TRSAGYRS
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#1929 [16:49] <derp> hello?
#1930 [16:49] <just> lol
#1931 [16:49] <just> derp rofl XD
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#1933 [16:49] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Ok, thanks, the dxdiag shows: Card name: Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML Express, and 1000 MB of RAM
#1934 [16:49] <just> guacamole :D
#1935 [16:49] <guacamole> Hello guys I have a question
#1936 [16:49] <derp> >bought premium account
#1937 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> guacamole: we have answers.
#1938 [16:50] <derp> >tried to login with new download on my new pc
#1939 [16:50] <guacamole> I have bought a premium account but didn't received
#1940 [16:50] <derp> >user not premium
#1941 [16:50] <guacamole> An email or anything, and my money are gone ..
#1942 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> derp: >fails to use complete sentences.
#1943 [16:50] <derp> >babby.jpg
#1944 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> ??> derp do/,
#1945 [16:50] <VoxelHead> derp: (do/,) The Enter key is not a comma. Please don't flood the channel with many many lines of just two or three words each. Learn how to use complete sentences, and commas.
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#1947 [16:50] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: I guess this is a Sony laptop? I'll look for updated drivers, if any, star
#1948 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> guacamole: what means did you use to fund the purchase?
#1949 [16:51] <ZombieSalesman> Yes it is
#1950 [16:51] <derp> paypal
#1951 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> guacamole: also, wat is your account name?
#1952 [16:51] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: ... at http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1953 [16:51] <ZombieSalesman> I've updated from there once before,
#1954 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> ??> guacamole dont/pm
#1955 [16:51] <VoxelHead> guacamole: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1956 [16:51] <rherr1> it says i need to turn off the internet exploer
#1957 [16:52] <just> ugh
#1958 [16:52] <guacamole> DopeGhoti
#1959 [16:52] <just> i need to download the support
#1960 [16:52] <just> folder
#1961 [16:52] <DopeGhoti> Yes, green pasty one?
#1962 [16:52] <guacamole> I have bought via paypal premium but I havent received any emails or anything
#1963 [16:52] <guacamole> And my money are gone
#1964 [16:52] <DopeGhoti> guacamole: what is your Minecraft account name?
#1965 [16:52] <guacamole> DaveHarm
#1966 [16:53] <rherr1> brb'
#1967 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> guacamole: can you log in at www.minecraft.net and go to your Profile page?
#1968 [16:53] <guacamole> yeah hold on
#1969 [16:53] <whiteguy> i also bought a premium but i haven't got an email or anything in 2 days!
#1970 [16:53] <ZombieSalesman> You don't get an email.
#1971 [16:54] <guacamole> Okay
#1972 [16:54] <ZombieSalesman> You can play.
#1973 [16:54] <guacamole> I'am on my profile Dope
#1974 [16:54] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: I've reached: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Chipsets&ProductLine=Laptop+Chipsets&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%c2%ae+915+Express+Chipset+Family&ProdId=2032&LineId=1088&FamilyId=40
#1975 [16:54] <whiteguy> but i can't. it still says "Buy Game"
#1976 [16:54] <guacamole> Dope, I'am on my profile
#1977 [16:55] <ZombieSalesman> What do I do from there, AureliusM?
#1978 [16:55] <whiteguy> i bought it on the 9th and still haven't got an confirmation thing
#1979 [16:55] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: which has 7 drivers, I think the right one is the third: "Intel� Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Windows* XP (exe)" 14.25.50.4764
#1980 [16:55] <AureliusM> Latest. See http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=12536&ProdId=2032&lang=eng
#1981 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> guacamole: Below the Upload skin button, do you see any gift codes?
#1982 [16:55] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Go here http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=12536&ProdId=2032&lang=eng
#1983 [16:55] <guacamole> Sadly no :( .. and I just waited to play the game .. damn
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#1985 [16:55] <just> help....
#1986 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> guacamole: if you go to the Store page, does it still say "buy the game" in the upper left?
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#1988 [16:56] <guacamole> yeah
#1989 [16:56] <guacamole> exactly .. :(
#1990 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> okay, this is out of our hands, we're just community volunteers here, but I can recommend this:
#1991 [16:56] <max65784> minecraft the app wont work and it crashes any 1 no y?
#1992 [16:56] * rherr3 [rherr3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1993 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> send an email to 'help@mojang.com' with your account name and paypal transaciton confimation number, which you should have in your email, or failing that, you can get it by logging into your paypal account.
#1994 [16:57] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: on that page the list includes "Mobile Intel� 915GM/GMS, 910GML Express" and you should click the Download button at right, near the top
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#1996 [16:57] <ZombieSalesman> Downloading now.
#1997 [16:57] <guacamole> Ohhh I see ..
#1998 [16:57] <guacamole> Okay dope thanks
#1999 [16:57] <rherr3> aureliusM i uninstaled java its me rherr1 hjbkfijnk
#2000 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> guacamole: good luck!
#2001 [16:58] <Boreeas> What
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#2003 [16:58] <jpgunny101> can someone help me with a billing question?
#2004 [16:58] <just> ..
#2005 [16:58] <just> any mac helper?
#2006 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> jpgunny101: we can try, but we're not directly affiliated with Mojang.
#2007 [16:58] <AureliusM> rherr3: formerly known as rherr1 : Ok, now we check : click Start and then control panel and look for a Java icon
#2008 [16:58] <Boreeas> jpgunny101: Probably not. We are not affiliated with Mojang and cannot help with account issues.
#2009 [16:58] <max65784> minecraft the app wont work and it crashes any 1 no y? i own it
#2010 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> max65784: when it crashes, what error message, if any, do you get?
#2011 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> also
#2012 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> ?? dont/tweet
#2013 [16:59] <VoxelHead> dont/tweet: IRC has a very generous limit on the length of its messages. Please, for the sake of our sanity, use complete words, such as 'you', 'one', and 'are', and not 'u', '1', and 'r'.
#2014 [16:59] <max65784> it leaves a note pad and has an error thing in it
#2015 [16:59] <zkxs> ??< mac/reinst
#2016 [16:59] <Boreeas> DopeGhoti: Isn't the limit per line like 255 characters?
#2017 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> max65784: put the contents of that file onto Pastebin and let us review it
#2018 [17:00] <max65784> kk
#2019 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> Boreeas: I think it's closer to 512? It's quite long.
#2020 [17:00] <rherr3> there is no java
#2021 [17:00] <ZombieSalesman> Finished installing it
#2022 [17:00] <Boreeas> Ah, might be too
#2023 [17:00] <just> FML
#2024 [17:00] <just> ...
#2025 [17:00] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: did it ask to reboot?
#2026 [17:00] <jpgunny101> does anyone know how to get a hold of someone at Mojang so i can receive help?
#2027 [17:00] <max65784> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000084c1, pid=4752, tid=4252 # # JRE version: 6.0_30-b12 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.5-b03 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C 0x000084c1 # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: # http://j
#2028 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> ??> max65784 pastebin
#2029 [17:00] <VoxelHead> max65784: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2030 [17:00] <ZombieSalesman> ?? pastebin
#2031 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> Boreeas: the RFC specifies a 508 byte limit
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#2033 [17:01] <Boreeas> jpgunny101: help@mojang.com
#2034 [17:01] <max65784> o sorry
#2035 [17:01] <Boreeas> jpgunny101: Alternatively, tweeting them might work
#2036 [17:01] <rherr3> no java
#2037 [17:01] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: It probably just downloaded the driver to your machine. Can you remember where you saved it ?
#2038 [17:01] <max65784> what do i do when i pasted it?
#2039 [17:01] <ZombieSalesman> It installed it.
#2040 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> max65784: give us the Pastebin.com URL for your paste.
#2041 [17:02] <jpgunny101> thank you
#2042 [17:02] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Hmmm, usually a driver install requires a reboot. What did the install procedure report?
#2043 [17:02] <ZombieSalesman> It says I have to restart for the changes to take effect and to remove any installation media from the drives. What does the second term mean/
#2044 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> ZombieSalesman: that menas, if you got the driver from a CD, to remove the CD from the drive.
#2045 [17:03] <ZombieSalesman> Alright
#2046 [17:03] <rherr3> aureliusM there is n java
#2047 [17:03] <ZombieSalesman> Ima restart and be back
#2048 [17:03] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Ah Ok, yes, so you need to restart. The last part is in case you have install disks in any drives, such as CDROM or DVDROMs.
#2049 [17:03] <max65784> http://pastebin.com/GSpMaVqW
#2050 [17:04] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Can you find your way back here ? It is irc://irc.esper.net/MineCraftHelp .
#2051 [17:04] <ZombieSalesman> I Favorited the page
#2052 [17:05] <max65784> it runs alot of things but not mc it runs more newer things fine
#2053 [17:05] <AureliusM> rherr3: formerly known as rherr1 : good! Now install Java 6 from this page: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#2054 [17:06] <just> anyone nows where i can download the aplication support folder?
#2055 [17:07] <zkxs> ??> just mac/reinst
#2056 [17:07] <VoxelHead> just: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2057 [17:07] <VoxelHead> just: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2058 [17:07] * AureliusM looks for that list of Java install files with specific links for 32 and 64 bit Java
#2058 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> ?? java
#2059 [17:08] <VoxelHead> java: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html
#2060 [17:08] <max65784> aubot what do u mean update ur client?
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#2062 [17:09] <rherr3> java is downloaded
#2063 [17:09] * AureliusM thanks GreyVulpine
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#2064 [17:10] <rherr3> aureliusM java is downloaded
#2065 [17:10] <AureliusM> rherr3: can you double-click the Java file you downloaded to install it ?
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#2067 [17:11] <rherr3> i instaled it
#2068 [17:11] <AureliusM> rherr3: now try the run.bat again
#2069 [17:11] <max65784> updata client? what does that mean? like the 1.0.0 what?
#2070 [17:12] <rherr3> minecraft works
#2071 [17:12] * AureliusM claps
#2071 [17:13] <max65784> hello updata client? what does that mean? like the 1.0.0 what?
#2072 [17:13] <AureliusM> rherr3: So, again it was re-installing Java 6 that fixed it. Also, try the minecraft.exe on your desktop (if it is still there).
#2073 [17:13] <max65784> minecraft.exe thta does not work
#2074 [17:13] <max65784> that
#2075 [17:14] <AureliusM> rherr3: Or, quit minecraft, look for the minecraft.exe that you tried before, and double click it. That should also work.
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#2077 [17:15] <rherr3> ok minecraft works but it is still frozen updateing and downloading packages
#2078 [17:15] <ZombieSalesman> Back, AureliusM.
#2079 [17:15] <AureliusM> max65784: Run Minecraft and click the Options and then click Force Update
#2080 [17:16] <AureliusM> ??> max65784 forceupdate
#2081 [17:16] <VoxelHead> max65784: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2082 [17:16] <VoxelHead> max65784: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
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#2084 [17:16] <rherr3> minecraft is frozen while it is updateing and downloading packages
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#2086 [17:17] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Ok, so the driver install worked? If yes, try Minecraft again.
#2087 [17:17] <ZombieSalesman> IT did Ima try it now
#2088 [17:17] <rherr3> eg
#2089 [17:17] <rherr3> g
#2090 [17:17] <rherr3> g
#2091 [17:17] <rherr3> g
#2092 [17:17] <rherr3> g
#2093 [17:17] <rherr3> g
#2094 [17:17] <rherr3> g
#2095 [17:17] <rherr3> gg
#2096 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> rherr3: do that again and you're gone. Except you're gone already.
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#2098 [17:17] <AureliusM> oh
#2099 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> rherr4: do that again and you're gone. Except you're gone already.
#2100 [17:18] <Boreeas> DopeGhoti: No, he's not gone right now :P
#2101 [17:18] <max> minecraft.exe gets black screen after loading help
#2102 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> he or she or it is on the verge.
#2103 [17:18] <rherr4> its me rherr3 aureliusM
#2104 [17:18] <ZombieSalesman> No luck, AureliusM.
#2105 [17:18] <AureliusM> rherr4: any error message or just freezes with black screen? Tried the run,bat again?
#2106 [17:18] <max> o it me max65784
#2107 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> ??> max specs
#2108 [17:18] <VoxelHead> max: (specs) Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#2109 [17:19] <rherr4> minecraft is frozen updateing again
#2110 [17:19] <Boreeas> DopeGhoti: I've got it typed and cut out already :P
#2111 [17:19] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Error messages? Are you using the run.bat from GreyVulpine ?
#2112 [17:20] <ZombieSalesman> I don't have the Run.bat, it gives the crash report that it did before.
#2113 [17:20] <max> 32 bit uptodate xp dell optiplex gx280 2gb gpu?
#2114 [17:21] <max> but i use 64 bit
#2115 [17:21] <max> java 6
#2116 [17:21] <just> any mac helper?
#2117 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> max: if you're running 32-bit WinXP, there's no way you're running a 64-bit Java. Are you certain?
#2118 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> just: none who are telepathic.
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#2120 [17:22] <max> how do i check java
#2121 [17:22] <Boreeas> just: There are, but no one knows what you need
#2122 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> ??> max java/version
#2123 [17:22] <VoxelHead> max: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2124 [17:22] <VoxelHead> max: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2125 [17:22] <rherr4> minecraft is frozen updateing again
#2126 [17:22] <rherr4> dghhsdht
#2127 [17:23] <Boreeas> Good for you
#2128 [17:23] <just> fml D:
#2129 [17:23] <just> :d
#2130 [17:23] <just> :D
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#2132 [17:23] <ZombieSalesman> AureliusM could you please link me to the Run.Bat?
#2133 [17:23] <max> Version 6 Update 30
#2134 [17:23] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: I'm reading the IRC log to see what's been tried in your case. It crashes after OpenAL32.dll+0xc059, you have no "!" in the windows user name, and we tried re-installing Java 6, right?
#2135 [17:23] <just> any mac helper?
#2136 [17:23] <jpgunny101> i understand that you guys do not deal with mojang directly but i went to help@mojang.com and nothing came up i tried going to mojang.com and looking for a help button and still could not find anything can someone help me?
#2137 [17:23] * VoxelHead kicked rherr6 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: herr6 :Banned: Take a couple hours and learn that banging on your keyboard and sending us the resultant text is not productive.)
#2138 [17:23] <Boreeas> just: You didn't listen, did you?
#2139 [17:23] <ZombieSalesman> Yes we did.
#2140 [17:24] <Boreeas> jpgunny101: mailto:help@mojang.com
#2141 [17:24] <just> ok
#2142 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> jpgunny101: that was an email address.
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#2144 [17:24] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: You did a force update too ?
#2145 [17:24] <ZombieSalesman> Yep
#2146 [17:24] <jpgunny101> okay, thank you. I was not told that before hand
#2147 [17:24] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Let's double check, click Start and type %userprofile% and press enter
#2148 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> jpgunny101: what part of "send an email to" was unclear? (:
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#2150 [17:25] <ZombieSalesman> Okay
#2151 [17:25] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: A Windows Explorer window shoul dopen with your Windows user name as titkle, there should be no "funny" characters
#2152 [17:25] <ZombieSalesman> Nope. Just 'Admin'
#2153 [17:25] <max> Version 6 Update 30
#2154 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> max: okay, so it's not 64-bit then, but it's at least up-to-date.
#2155 [17:26] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Close that window. Now click Start and type %appdata% and press enter
#2156 [17:26] <max> now what
#2157 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> ??> max win/profile
#2158 [17:26] <VoxelHead> max: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2159 [17:26] <VoxelHead> max: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2160 [17:26] <ZombieSalesman> Okay
#2161 [17:27] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Look for .minecraft and double click it, and it should show 2 files and about 7 folders
#2162 [17:27] <max> kk
#2163 [17:27] <ZombieSalesman> 5 Folders.
#2164 [17:27] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Yep 5, double click the bin folder
#2165 [17:28] <max> i dont think im aloud ill ask tho
#2166 [17:28] <ZombieSalesman> Okay
#2167 [17:29] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: The bin should hold about 6 files and one natives folder. Dated around November 2011
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#2169 [17:29] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: double click the natives folder and 8 files shoul dlist dated also 13/11/2011
#2170 [17:30] <ZombieSalesman> Yep, but since the force updates and LWJGL updates they're dated today
#2171 [17:30] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Ah yes. That's true.
#2172 [17:30] <ZombieSalesman> LWJGL files dated...
#2173 [17:31] <ZombieSalesman> 7/20/2011
#2174 [17:32] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Hmm, my lwjgl files are dated 13/11/2011 which is when I did my update.
#2175 [17:32] <ZombieSalesman> Mine are the 2.7.1 files.
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#2177 [17:32] <ZombieSalesman> Someone told me to go to that one instead of 2.8.1
#2178 [17:33] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Yeah, I know there's sometimes problem with the library versions that mohang includes.
#2179 [17:34] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: mojang* I'm looking at the LWJGL issue a bit more now. I also had to do a manual update back in Beta days
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#2181 [17:34] <tyteen4a03> AureliusM: mohang
#2182 [17:34] <tyteen4a03> somehow it sounds right
#2183 [17:34] <just> hey guys
#2184 [17:34] <just> when i try to buy miencraft
#2185 [17:34] <just> with payapal
#2186 [17:34] <ZombieSalesman> What do I do now AureliusM
#2187 [17:34] <just> paypal
#2188 [17:34] <just> it fails
#2189 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> ??> just do/,
#2190 [17:34] <VoxelHead> just: (do/,) The Enter key is not a comma. Please don't flood the channel with many many lines of just two or three words each. Learn how to use complete sentences, and commas.
#2191 [17:34] <just> ok
#2192 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> when it fails, what error do you get?
#2193 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> Please state the complete error, verbatim. If it's long, please use PAstebin
#2194 [17:35] <just> le tme copy apsdte it
#2195 [17:35] <just> paste*
#2196 [17:35] <just> let*
#2197 [17:35] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Ok, did you have the 2.8.2 library files before?
#2198 [17:35] <just> Your purchase was for some reason denied to be processed don't give me an exact reason
#2199 [17:36] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: We'll try to move the 2.7.1 libraries out of bin and replace then with the 2.8.2.
#2200 [17:36] <just> ?
#2201 [17:36] <ZombieSalesman> I'm not sure what ones I had before, but I know 2.8.2 has ab ug with the Options menu.
#2202 [17:37] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: But wait, as I'm still reading up on possible problems with 2.8.2 ... Might try 2.8.1 instead
#2203 [17:38] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: You were getting a bug yourself with 2.8.2 ?
#2204 [17:40] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: I think we'll still try 2.8.2 first. Create two folders on your desktop, name one lib281 and the other libprob
#2205 [17:40] <ZombieSalesman> No, as it's never worked on this computer, but on the wiki it states that the Options menu does not close on 2.8.2 sometimes
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#2208 [17:43] <ZombieSalesman> Folders made
#2209 [17:44] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: It works for me and I have 2.8.2, but ok, create a third folder and name it lib281
#2210 [17:44] <ZombieSalesman> You already told me to make a folder named that
#2211 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> *gasp* AureliusM, you're fired! (:
#2212 [17:47] <ZombieSalesman> ...
#2213 [17:47] <ZombieSalesman> *gasp*
#2214 [17:47] <AureliusM> Why what happened?
#2215 [17:47] <ZombieSalesman> *sigh* That's the way the M turns into a W
#2216 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> You dared to give the same instruction twice. Also, I was kidding.
#2217 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> (hence the '(:' (: )
#2218 [17:48] <ZombieSalesman> :D
#2219 [17:48] <AureliusM> Yes I saw that, but just checking.
#2220 [17:49] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Which wiki page reports this problem?
#2221 [17:50] <ZombieSalesman> What?
#2222 [17:50] <ZombieSalesman> Oh one sec.
#2223 [17:50] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: ah here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#2224 [17:51] <ZombieSalesman> Yep
#2225 [17:52] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Ok, first you copy the whole/.minecraft/bin folder into that "libprob" folder on your desktop
#2226 [17:52] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Then browse to http://sourceforge.net/projects/java-game-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.8.1/ and download the "lwjgl-2.8.1.zip" listed there
#2227 [17:53] <ZombieSalesman> Okay
#2228 [17:54] <ZombieSalesman> Downloaded
#2229 [17:54] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Do you have 7Zip or WinRAR?
#2230 [17:55] <ZombieSalesman> Yes, it's opened in that already.
#2231 [17:55] <ZombieSalesman> I have Chrome\
#2232 [17:55] <ZombieSalesman> by Google
#2233 [17:56] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Ah so Chrome opens archive files in 7Zip , that's good.
#2234 [17:56] <ZombieSalesman> WinRAR
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#2236 [17:57] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: I don't know WinRAR, we'll see how it goes. In WinRar open the /jar folder
#2237 [17:57] <ZombieSalesman> Done
#2238 [17:58] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: You should see several jar files (mine has Apple at the top, never seen that before): select only these three: jinput.jar, lwjgl.jar, lwjgl_util.jar
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#2240 [17:58] <ZombieSalesman> Done
#2241 [18:00] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: In WinRAR extract them, or drag them somehow into the folder %APPDATA%/.minecraft/bin/
#2242 [18:00] <Ninetails> why does the browser version appear white?
#2243 [18:00] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: If WinRAR asks do you want to overwrite the existing files, click Yes
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#2245 [18:01] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: It might help to keep the folder showing %APPDATA%/.minecraft/bin/ on one part of the screen and the WinRAR window on the other, if this step is tricky
#2246 [18:01] <ZombieSalesman> Not tricky
#2247 [18:02] <ZombieSalesman> Just forgot I had minecraft open
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#2249 [18:02] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: I just realized it might have been easire to just extract all into the lib281 folder
#2250 [18:02] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: But, I always do my extracts directly from archive file to final destination.
#2251 [18:03] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: *easier*
#2252 [18:03] <ZombieSalesman> What now?
#2253 [18:03] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: I'm mainly following http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/798457-100-no-sound-glitch/ and my memory for these instructions, by the way
#2254 [18:03] <ZombieSalesman> Okay.
#2255 [18:04] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Ok, back to WinRAR and open the \native\windows folder- you may have to go up from the jar folder
#2256 [18:05] <ZombieSalesman> Now go into Natives and copy it in?
#2257 [18:05] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: In that folder there should be 8 dll files dated 2011-10-15
#2258 [18:06] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Yep, select them all copy them and paste into %APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\natives
#2259 [18:06] <ZombieSalesman> So put them into bin/natives?
#2260 [18:07] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Yes, put them into the \bin\natives inside the disk folder %APPDATA%\.minecraft - the minecraft folder that's NOT in WinRAR
#2261 [18:08] <ZombieSalesman> Done
#2262 [18:09] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Check the dates in %APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin - some jar files should be dated October 15, they are the 2.8.1 library jars, and all the ones in \bin\natives should have that date
#2263 [18:10] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: And then try minecraft again.
#2264 [18:11] <ZombieSalesman> Doesn't work, and the Natives files are dated 7/20/2011
#2265 [18:13] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: 7/20 is the dat they had before. The bin/natives should all be 10/15
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#2267 [18:14] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Close minecraft. When you checked the dates of the dll files in %APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\natives were they 10/15? And then after running Minecraft they changed?
#2268 [18:15] <ZombieSalesman> They're 7/20 before rnunning minecraft
#2269 [18:16] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Well, this time just use WinRAR to extract all the files from lwjgl-2.8.1.zip and put them into the /lib281 folder
#2270 [18:16] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Somehow WinRAR did not overwrite the dll files...
#2271 [18:16] <ZombieSalesman> Done
#2272 [18:17] <ZombieSalesman> The files say today's date now for 'date created'
#2273 [18:17] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Check the dates in \lib281\ are all 10-15
#2274 [18:17] <ZombieSalesman> Because they were moved over
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#2276 [18:18] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: What does WinRAR do? My 7Zip does not change the date .
#2277 [18:18] <ZombieSalesman> It copies the files from the WinRAR'd file to the Folder.
#2278 [18:18] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Ah ok, look at the date modified
#2279 [18:18] <ZombieSalesman> As if you Copy-Pasted it
#2280 [18:18] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: that should show 10-15
#2281 [18:18] <ZombieSalesman> Yep
#2282 [18:18] <mib_76ox6b> i have windos vista and i cant get it to run
#2283 [18:19] <Ketsueki> ??> mib_76ox6b win/dxdiag
#2284 [18:19] <VoxelHead> mib_76ox6b: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2285 [18:19] <VoxelHead> mib_76ox6b: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2286 [18:19] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: ok that's good. Now we'll first delete the old dll files from %APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\natives\
#2287 [18:20] <Ketsueki> mib_76ox6b: pastebin link us the results of that please.
#2288 [18:20] <ZombieSalesman> Deleted and moved over
#2289 [18:20] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: And then delete just these three from %APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\ : jinput.jar, lwjgl.jar, lwjgl_util.jar
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#2291 [18:21] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: You made a full copy in \libprob\ first ?
#2292 [18:21] <ZombieSalesman> Yep\
#2293 [18:21] <ZombieSalesman> Copied over and such
#2294 [18:22] <Ninetails> why does the browser version of minecraft appear completely white?
#2295 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Ninetails - What operating system are you on, and what browser are you using?
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#2297 [18:22] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Now, just copy all the dlls from \lib281\ into %APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\natives\
#2298 [18:23] <ZombieSalesman> Yep
#2299 [18:23] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: And copy the three jars from \lib281\ into %APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\
#2300 [18:23] <ZombieSalesman> Done that already
#2301 [18:23] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: And retry minecraft
#2302 [18:24] * AureliusM wonders if the META-INF needs deleting
#2302 [18:24] <Ninetails> GreyVulpine: im using the latest google chrome and Mac OSX Snow Leopard 10.6.8
#2303 [18:24] <ZombieSalesman> I tried again
#2304 [18:24] <ZombieSalesman> Craaaaaaaaaaaaaash
#2305 [18:24] <Ninetails> AureliusM: yea, META-INF always needs deleting
#2306 [18:25] <AureliusM> Ninetails: Even for lwjgl updates?
#2307 [18:25] <ZombieSalesman> So I delete Meta-Inf?
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#2309 [18:25] <zenon> :l
#2310 [18:25] <ZombieSalesman> Like I was installing mods?>
#2311 [18:25] <zenon> i was buying minecraft
#2312 [18:25] <zenon> and it failed
#2313 [18:25] <zenon> and then it said
#2314 [18:25] <zenon> i can't buy it
#2315 [18:25] <zenon> in 24 hours
#2316 [18:25] <zenon> ...
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#2318 [18:25] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Let's leave META-INF alone for now.
#2319 [18:26] <Ninetails> AureliusM: im not sure, but it's usually the case when manually changing the minecraft files.
#2320 [18:26] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: what's teh crash error message?
#2321 [18:26] <AureliusM> Ninetails: I've only done it for the Optifine mod, can't remember having to delet META-INF for the LWJGL
#2322 [18:26] <ZombieSalesman> The same Bad video card drivers
#2323 [18:27] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Oh, but the last error was a freeze after OpenAL wasn't it?
#2324 [18:28] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: "org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated" in the hs_err_pid ?
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#2326 [18:29] <ZombieSalesman> http://pastebin.com/6HZ7Y9gk is the Crash Log from MC
#2327 [18:30] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: I see, I don't think this is a LWJGL problem, but with the drivers themselves
#2328 [18:31] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Ok , need a dxdiag now:
#2329 [18:31] <AureliusM> ??> ZombieSalesman win\dxdiag
#2330 [18:32] <AureliusM> ??> ZombieSalesman win/dxdiag
#2331 [18:32] <VoxelHead> ZombieSalesman: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2332 [18:32] <VoxelHead> ZombieSalesman: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2333 [18:32] * AureliusM grumbles about WIndows backslash syntax
#2333 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> AureliusM: Blame CP/M
#2334 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> From which Microsoft stole most of MS-DOS' internals
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#2336 [18:34] <mib_5r17am> i can't start up minecraft
#2337 [18:34] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: I found your dxdiag: Card name: Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML Express, and 1000 MB of RAM
#2338 [18:34] <ZombieSalesman> Yep
#2339 [18:34] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: If this is the right dxdiag paste: http://pastebin.com/TRSAGYRS
#2340 [18:34] <ZombieSalesman> Yes it is
#2341 [18:36] <ZombieSalesman> So what now?
#2342 [18:37] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: I'm looking to see whether the 915GM/GMS,910GML Express supports OpenGL sufficient for Minecraft
#2343 [18:38] <ZombieSalesman> If it's not Ima be mad.
#2344 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> AureliusM - It does, with enough RAM
#2345 [18:39] <ZombieSalesman> Required RAM?
#2346 [18:39] * mib_5mvsk5 [mib_5mvsk5@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2347 [18:39] <AureliusM> Zombie has 1014MB RAM
#2348 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> If you have any less than a gig..
#2349 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, did you try the batch file with 256 megs of RAM?
#2350 [18:40] <ZombieSalesman> I dun have it
#2351 [18:40] <mib_5mvsk5> i have a question will minecraft run on my 32 bit windows vista home premium?
#2352 [18:41] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: try this -> http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
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#2354 [18:43] <ZombieSalesman> NNot working
#2355 [18:44] <Jackson413> hey Grey
#2356 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific?
#2357 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Yo.
#2358 [18:44] <Jackson413> can you answer a general win question?
#2359 [18:44] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: same bad video drivers with "Pixel format not accelerated" ?
#2360 [18:44] <ZombieSalesman> It says it cannot find the LauncherFrame
#2361 [18:44] <Jackson413> shit gtg
#2362 [18:45] <ZombieSalesman> And does not open minecraft
#2363 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Did you follow the instructions exactly?
#2364 [18:45] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: is the minecraft.jar downloaded to you desktop, and named minecraft.jar ?
#2365 [18:46] * AureliusM wonders if Chrome has renamed the jar
#2365 [18:46] <ZombieSalesman> Yes it is and yes it is.
#2366 [18:46] <ZombieSalesman> Do I need to download from that link or can I use my Clean Jar?
#2367 [18:47] <Ketsueki> ZombieSalesman: download it from the minecraft downloads page
#2368 [18:47] <Ketsueki> You need the /launcher/ and your clean jar should be in .minecraft/
#2369 [18:47] <ZombieSalesman> It is in there
#2370 [18:47] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: and the run.bat has 2 lines? Last line "pause"?
#2371 [18:47] <ZombieSalesman> Yes
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#2373 [18:48] <ZombieSalesman> This link does not work: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar/
#2374 [18:48] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: What does the black command window show as error?
#2375 [18:49] <mib_5mvsk5> back and it says that it couldn't find or load main class net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2376 [18:49] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: the link is: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#2377 [18:49] <ZombieSalesman> It says it cannot find Launcher Frame
#2378 [18:49] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: you had a slash at the end
#2379 [18:49] <ZombieSalesman> IT WORKS
#2380 [18:50] <ZombieSalesman> THANK YOU
#2381 [18:50] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: wait for it to load a world
#2382 [18:50] <ZombieSalesman> THANK YOU
#2383 [18:50] <ZombieSalesman> *THANK YOU SO MUCH*
#2384 [18:50] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: there may still be an error when it runs out of memory
#2385 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> The 915, 945 and 965 intel chipsets usually can play minecraft fine. It's just a matter of the system not having enough RAM.
#2386 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> by "fine", I mean, minecraft can launch with it, FPS issues aside.
#2387 [18:51] <ZombieSalesman> It works, I can move around with a good amount of FPS and everything!
#2388 [18:52] <AureliusM> Yeah, I just want to warn that with only 1000 MB even the 256M heap size can end up with disk swapping after many minutes
#2389 [18:52] <ZombieSalesman> I'll play for a few minutes and come back if there is a problem
#2390 [18:52] * DopeGhoti gets ?? dontclick ready (:
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#2392 [18:53] <ZombieSalesman> ?? dontclick
#2393 [18:53] <VoxelHead> dontclick: You will have better luck holding down the mouse button. Clicking is for instant interactions like placing blocks and flipping switches. To mine, chop wood, or dig; hold down the mouse button.
#2394 [18:54] <AureliusM> Hmmm, so that 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chipset will cause the "Pixel format not accelerated" error if there isn't enough free RAM left for the driver ? Anyone know how much free RAM it needs?
#2395 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> As much as you can give it. The thing is, Minecraft.exe reserves 512-1024M on launch
#2396 [18:55] * AureliusM keeps losing the IRC forum with the Support questions thread
#2396 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Leaving no free RAM for the video card, the operating system, and any running programs
#2397 [18:56] <AureliusM> GreyVulpine: Yes, I noticed the exe reserves memory for things other than the heap at the start.
#2398 [18:56] <ZombieSalesman> Ima come back on if I experience issues
#2399 [18:56] <ZombieSalesman> Is anyone on the mc.minecraftirc.net thing?
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#2401 [18:57] <AureliusM> GreyVulpine: Mojang ought to provide a minecraft_lite.exe for people with little RAM (like myself a few months ago)
#2402 [18:57] <soggymushrooms> Does anyone know how to install audiomod?
#2403 [18:57] <AureliusM> I'll check the mc.minecraftirc.net now
#2404 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> AureliusM - Eh. Would be a good idea
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#2406 [18:57] <ZombieSalesman> I've just logged onto mc.minecraftirc.net if anyone is on there.
#2407 [18:57] <ZombieSalesman> I'm at spawn'
#2408 [18:57] <ZombieSalesman> I'm Telamon1
#2409 [18:59] <AureliusM> ZombieSalesman: Yes I see you at the mc.minecraftirc.net
#2410 [18:59] * mib_unycdi [mib_unycdi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2411 [19:00] <mib_unycdi> hello?
#2412 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> Hello
#2413 [19:00] <mib_unycdi> hi i need help with my minecraft
#2414 [19:00] <mib_unycdi> can you help me?
#2415 [19:01] <soggymushrooms> does anyone know how to install audiomod?
#2416 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> What kind of help do you need mib_unycdi?
#2417 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> soggymushrooms - Check the forum thread where you found audiomod, there should be instructions there.
#2418 [19:01] <soggymushrooms> ok
#2419 [19:02] <mib_unycdi> my minecraft keeps crashing as i try to load up a world, it goes to saving chunks and then black
#2420 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_unycdi - Have you tried creating a new world to see if it crashes there as well?
#2421 [19:02] <mib_unycdi> yes
#2422 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> And does it?
#2423 [19:02] <mib_unycdi> yep :(
#2424 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any mods installed?
#2425 [19:03] <mib_unycdi> i tried to install a couple and im pretty sure i did it right
#2426 [19:03] <mib_unycdi> but now the whole game wont wor anyway
#2427 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Could you remove them to see if minecraft still crashes? Do a "Force update" at the options menu before you log in
#2428 [19:05] <mib_unycdi> how do you force update?
#2429 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> Do you have the downloadable launcher from minecraft.net/download?
#2430 [19:06] <mib_unycdi> yes the grass icon
#2431 [19:06] <Ketsueki> mib_unycdi: you log out; re-launch minecraft and above login there is a button; click it, then in the popup click the checkbox
#2432 [19:07] <mib_unycdi> i cant see a button above ogin
#2433 [19:07] <mib_unycdi> login
#2434 [19:09] <mib_unycdi> please help it wont work
#2435 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png
#2436 [19:09] <mib_unycdi> im on mac
#2437 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> It's the same launcher
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#2439 [19:10] <mib_unycdi> oh yer thanks
#2440 [19:10] <mib_unycdi> i see it
#2441 [19:10] <Jackson413> howdy all
#2442 [19:10] <Jackson413> Grey still here?
#2443 [19:10] <Jackson413> mousier?
#2444 [19:10] <mib_unycdi> no its still crashing
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#2446 [19:11] <Jackson413> Senor Vulpine?
#2447 [19:11] <mib_unycdi> as i load the world, it sticks on saving chunks for 10 secs and then goes black
#2448 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - Yes?
#2449 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> mib_unycdi - Could you try making a new world?
#2450 [19:12] <mib_unycdi> i have, its something to do with java
#2451 [19:12] <Jackson413> why are there so many svchost.exe processes?
#2452 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> mib_unycdi - And how do you know that?
#2453 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - Google it.
#2454 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> If course it's something to do with Java. Minecraft is written entirely _in_ Java.
#2455 [19:13] <mib_unycdi> it flashes that it crashed because of something to do with java script
#2456 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> That's like saying life on earth has something to do with carbon.
#2457 [19:13] <Jackson413> i drink java for breakfast!
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#2460 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: I prefer tea.
#2461 [19:14] * Jackson413 gives Dope a biscuit
#2461 [19:14] * DopeGhoti munches happily.
#2461 [19:14] <j34> i woulld like some help
#2462 [19:14] <Jackson413> j34?
#2463 [19:14] * DopeGhoti throws j34 a life preserver.
#2463 [19:14] <mib_unycdi> does anyone know about my problem?
#2464 [19:14] <j34> i have a vista and it wont run minecraft
#2465 [19:14] <j34> i have a vista and it wont run minecraft
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#2467 [19:14] * Jackson413 pukes
#2467 [19:14] <Jackson413> vista ftw
#2468 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> "A vista"?
#2469 [19:14] <j34> no startup at all
#2470 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> What is your scenic view of?
#2471 [19:15] <j34> y?
#2472 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> ?? dont/tweet
#2473 [19:15] <VoxelHead> dont/tweet: IRC has a very generous limit on the length of its messages. Please, for the sake of our sanity, use complete words, such as 'you', 'one', and 'are', and not 'u', '1', and 'r'.
#2474 [19:15] <j34> why?
#2475 [19:15] <mib_unycdi> as i load the world, it sticks on saving chunks for 10 secs and then goes black
#2476 [19:15] <Jackson413> I'm not sure he gets the joke\
#2477 [19:15] <Jackson413> permission to do something funny?
#2478 [19:16] <mib_unycdi> please can someone help
#2479 [19:16] <j34> how do you get a windos vista to run minecraft?
#2480 [19:16] <Jackson413> ??> mib_unycdi specs
#2481 [19:16] <VoxelHead> mib_unycdi: (specs) Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#2482 [19:17] <mib_unycdi> mac, snow leopard 150gb
#2483 [19:17] <Jackson413> you do not have 150gb of ram
#2484 [19:17] <mib_unycdi> built in java
#2485 [19:17] <Jackson413> java is not built in
#2486 [19:17] <j34> current java, both 32 and 64-bit, more than enough ram, GPU?
#2487 [19:17] <mib_unycdi> to macs it is
#2488 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: it sort of is.
#2489 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_unycdi java/version
#2490 [19:17] <VoxelHead> mib_unycdi: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2491 [19:18] <VoxelHead> mib_unycdi: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2492 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> mib_unycdi: please report the version you've installed.
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#2494 [19:18] <mib_unycdi> Mac Users:Use the Software Update feature (available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date version of Java for your Mac.
#2495 [19:18] <Jackson413> j34, have you tried reinstalled?
#2496 [19:18] <j34> this site failed
#2497 [19:18] <Jackson413> does it get the to loading part even?
#2498 [19:18] <j34> no
#2499 [19:18] <mib_unycdi> mine is up to date
#2500 [19:18] <Jackson413> ??> j34 win/reinst
#2501 [19:18] <VoxelHead> j34: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2502 [19:18] <VoxelHead> j34: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2503 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_unycdi mac/permissions
#2504 [19:19] <VoxelHead> mib_unycdi: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#2505 [19:19] <VoxelHead> mib_unycdi: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#2506 [19:19] <Jackson413> macs
#2507 [19:19] * Jackson413 pukes
#2507 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: this is not the place of OS evangelism.
#2508 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> s/of/for/
#2509 [19:19] <Jackson413> s/of/for?
#2510 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> substitute 'for' for 'of'.
#2511 [19:21] <j34> voxell those files arnt even installed
#2512 [19:21] <mib_unycdi> nothing happens
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#2514 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> mib_unycdi: if you got no response to the command, that's a Good Thing. Try running Minecraft again.
#2515 [19:23] <raisin> We just purchased the game. However it states that it can't run due to our video card needing updated. How do we know how to udpate the video card?
#2516 [19:23] <j34> i did
#2517 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> raisin: what video card have you got installed?
#2518 [19:23] <mib_unycdi> no, it still gets stuck on saving chunks and then gets a black screen
#2519 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_unycdi mac/reinst/tool
#2520 [19:23] <VoxelHead> mib_unycdi: (mac/reinst/tool) Here is a helpful tool to purge the preinstalled files for you: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/Minecraft_Reinstall.dmg
#2521 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> well, that makes things easier.
#2522 [19:25] <mib_unycdi> it has an error message
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#2524 [19:25] * DopeGhoti fades into view.
#2524 [19:25] <mib_unycdi> The action “Show Growl Notification” could not be loaded because it could not be located.
#2525 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> Please state the nature of your Minecraft emergency.
#2526 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> mib_unycdi: you have OS X 10.6 and it didn't come with Growl? Interesting.
#2527 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> manually, then
#2528 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_unycdi mac/reinst
#2529 [19:26] <VoxelHead> mib_unycdi: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2530 [19:26] <VoxelHead> mib_unycdi: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2532 [19:26] <mr_boo> I need help
#2533 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> Please state the nature of your Minecraft emergency.
#2534 [19:27] <mr_boo> Minecraft? I need help getting CSS to put this pictuer at the very bottom of a page, no matter how big the window
#2535 [19:27] <mr_boo> Picture*
#2536 [19:27] <clarjon1> mr_boo: this room is for minecraft help
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#2538 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> Why are you asking for CSS tips in #minecrafthelp?
#2539 [19:27] <mr_boo> Because you guys don't seem busy
#2540 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> Fair enough.
#2541 [19:28] <mr_boo> DopeGhoti: you design websites anyways :)
#2542 [19:28] <Jackson413> mr_boo, have you tried the toMaTo method?
#2543 [19:28] <Jackson413> this has always worked
#2544 [19:28] <mr_boo> No idea what that is
#2545 [19:28] <Jackson413> you;ve never heard of it?
#2546 [19:28] <Jackson413> damn lol
#2547 [19:28] <mr_boo> No
#2548 [19:29] <mib_unycdi> same problem after deleting bin
#2549 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> mr_boo: try background-position: bottom center;
#2550 [19:29] <Jackson413> well anyway, cs5 has this build in webeditor where you can allow it to insert images directly into the site
#2551 [19:30] <mib_unycdi> dopeghoti?
#2552 [19:30] <mr_boo> DopeGhoti: no luck. Also have been trying left bottom
#2553 [19:30] <Jackson413> mr_boo, the toMaTo method would work
#2554 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> mr_boo: position: fixed;
#2555 [19:31] <Jackson413> but ok ignore me and enjoy your misery
#2556 [19:31] <mib_unycdi> hello?
#2557 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> mib_unycdi: thinking. And also at work.
#2558 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_unycdi mac/profile
#2559 [19:31] <VoxelHead> mib_unycdi: (mac/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2560 [19:31] <VoxelHead> mib_unycdi: (mac/profile) Please create a new system account (System Preferences => Accounts, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2561 [19:31] <mib_unycdi> same problem after deleting bin
#2562 [19:32] <mr_boo> DopeGhoti: that puts it at the top...
#2563 [19:32] <Jackson413> steve jobs fed cows Linux Brand cow feed
#2564 [19:32] <Jackson413> they crapped out Mac OS shortly afterward
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#2566 [19:32] <Jackson413> :D
#2567 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> mr_boo: position: absolute; bottom: 0px; ?
#2568 [19:33] <mr_boo> Bottom what...
#2569 [19:33] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti, recommend the toMaTo method to him, let him know that pros use it
#2570 [19:34] <mib_unycdi> same problem
#2571 [19:34] <mr_boo> Jackson413: you still haven't explained what that is
#2572 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: AFAIK, 'Tomato' is a fruit, vegetable, and router firmware.
#2573 [19:34] <Jackson413> well, basically, it was never released to the pulic
#2574 [19:34] <mib_unycdi> im still getting the problem?
#2575 [19:34] <Jackson413> but if you go onto the adobe website, and then get onto images.google.com
#2576 [19:35] <Jackson413> search for "tomato" and then download the third picture from the results and place it directly into both SYSTEM32 and the root program file directoy for CS5 it will unlock it
#2577 [19:36] <mib_unycdi> hello?
#2578 [19:36] <mr_boo> Well I'm almost possitive that I'm not stupid
#2579 [19:36] <Jackson413> you'd be stupid not to try it, and to be 'possitive' about it
#2580 [19:37] <mib_unycdi> my minecraft is broken, what do i do?
#2581 [19:38] <mr_boo> Jackson413: just because I'm a mibbit doesn't mean I'll fall for putting a picture in my SYSTEM32 folder
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#2583 [19:38] <Jackson413> fair enough, enjoy your struggle then
#2584 [19:38] <mr_boo> Ok
#2585 [19:38] <Jackson413> just trying to help
#2586 [19:39] <mr_boo> I don't see what CS5 would do with my CSS anyways
#2587 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> mr_boo: img { bottom: 0px; position: fixed; } works in my testing
#2588 [19:39] <oldtopman> !kick Jackson413
#2589 [19:39] * AuBot kicked Jackson413 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ackson413 :Uh oh! Looks like someone should have read the rules! (Issued by oldtopman with reason: None given.))
#2590 [19:39] <mr_boo> DopeGhoti: it's a background
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#2593 [19:39] <mib_unycdi> hello?
#2594 [19:39] <Jackson413> oldtopman?
#2595 [19:40] <oldtopman> Jackson413: Please don't go about telling people to ruin their computers. Not even as a joke.
#2596 [19:40] <Jackson413> who are you and why were you able to kick me?
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#2598 [19:40] <mr_boo> Lol
#2599 [19:40] <Jackson413> placing an image in the system32 folder will not do anything
#2600 [19:41] <mr_boo> Jackson413: I too could have kicked you
#2601 [19:41] <oldtopman> Jackson413: That does not concern you. Repeat it and suffer the consequences.
#2602 [19:41] <mr_boo> But I've always been too nice for that kind of stuff...
#2603 [19:41] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti, who is this guy?
#2604 [19:41] <TheNytangel> Boo
#2605 [19:41] * VoxelHead kicked Jackson413 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ackson413 :That sort of behavior is unacceptable in #minecrafthelp.)
#2606 [19:41] * oldtopman stifles some laughter.
#2606 [19:41] <mib_unycdi> i thought this is supposed to be minecraft help?
#2607 [19:42] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti: anyways, the background image I am having keep repeating on the x, but I just need it to get to the bottom of the stupid page
#2608 [19:43] <TheNytangel> oldtopman: like my new chat program?
#2609 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: http://pastebin.com/QPHRHESa
#2610 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: and background-repeat: repeat-x;
#2611 [19:44] <oldtopman> TheNytangel: What are you using?
#2612 [19:45] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti: do I need you to give you the link so you can see it?
#2613 [19:45] <TheNytangel> oldtopman: mibbit
#2614 [19:45] <oldtopman> Niiiice
#2615 [19:45] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti: it doesn't go to the bottom, it just goes.. like, to the bottom of the div
#2616 [19:45] <oldtopman> TheNytangel: Let me add you as an exception in #smp
#2617 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: it's going to the bottom for me
#2618 [19:46] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti: I'll notice you the link
#2619 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> your .css file is painful to read what with the lack of indentation
#2620 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> or is that just my inspector?
#2621 [19:52] <TheNytangel> No indentation
#2622 [19:52] <TheNytangel> What is indentation?
#2623 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> that answers that.
#2624 [19:53] <TheNytangel> Do you want me to indent?
#2625 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> I don't care; it's your site
#2626 [19:54] <TheNytangel> Actually
#2627 [19:54] <TheNytangel> Making it for someone else
#2628 [19:54] <TheNytangel> That's why it's a new directory
#2629 [19:55] <TheNytangel> And I'm going to go eat now... I'll finish the background later
#2630 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> enjoy your eatery.
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#2635 [20:02] <JordanNGT> When I am loading minecraft (In browser) it stops at " Done Loading " Why is this?
#2636 [20:03] <xales> Have you tried with the downloaded version?
#2637 [20:04] <JordanNGT> Yes I downloaded it and I click login and it says cannot connect to minecraft.net, then I click Play offline and my screen goes black?
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#2639 [20:04] <just> hey i'm ack
#2640 [20:04] <just> anyone?
#2641 [20:04] <just> back*
#2642 [20:04] <just> i need help, with files and premium
#2643 [20:04] <just> ?
#2644 [20:05] <xales> JordanNGT: Have you purchased Minecraft?
#2645 [20:05] <JordanNGT> Yes
#2646 [20:05] <just> the files will appear
#2647 [20:05] <xales> just: We can't read your mind, and can't help if you don't tell us what the problem is
#2648 [20:05] <just> if i log in
#2649 [20:05] <just> with premium acc?
#2650 [20:05] <xales> JordanNGT: Has it worked before?
#2651 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> ??> just do/,
#2652 [20:05] <VoxelHead> just: (do/,) The Enter key is not a comma. Please don't flood the channel with many many lines of just two or three words each. Learn how to use complete sentences, and commas.
#2653 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> just: this is your final warning about flooding the channel.
#2654 [20:05] <JordanNGT> No I purchased it today
#2655 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> JordanNGT: what is your account name?
#2656 [20:06] <just> ok, so if i buy a minecraft acc, and log in with it in minecraft client, will the files for offline playing will unlock?
#2657 [20:06] <JordanNGT> JordanNGT
#2658 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> just - Yes
#2659 [20:06] <just> ok, here is my problem
#2660 [20:06] <just> if i try to buy miencraft with paypal, it just fails
#2661 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> JordanNGT: you show as having a premium account. Try the standalone client.
#2662 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> presuming Windows:
#2663 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> ??> JordanNGT win/client
#2664 [20:06] <VoxelHead> JordanNGT: (win/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#2665 [20:06] <just> yes, i did have a premium acc
#2666 [20:07] <xales> just: Are you trying to use a gift card?
#2667 [20:07] <just> but this is for my friend
#2668 [20:07] <xales> ??> just only/you
#2669 [20:07] <VoxelHead> just: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#2670 [20:07] <VoxelHead> just: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#2671 [20:07] <xales> just: Are you trying to use a gift card?
#2672 [20:07] <just> sorry, my english is kinda bad.
#2673 [20:07] <just> i'm trying to buy it as a gift code, but it fails
#2674 [20:08] <JordanNGT> Ok I clicked login, and it says Cannot connect to minecraft.net, so i click play offline and its stuck on Done Loading
#2675 [20:08] <xales> just: What is the error it gives you?
#2676 [20:08] <just> that the transition have been cancelled.
#2677 [20:09] <xales> JordanNGT: 'Cannot connect to minecraft.net' suggests that some sort of firewall software is preventing it from connecting. Please disable any firewall software you may be running, and then running it again, to see if that is the issue.
#2678 [20:09] <JordanNGT> Ok
#2679 [20:09] <just> doesn't give me more detail
#2680 [20:10] <xales> just: We are neither Paypal, nor your financial institution, and as such, can't assist you further. Contacting Paypal support would probably be the best thing to do. You could also attempt to purchase it with another payment gateway or funding source.
#2681 [20:10] <just> ty, have a good day ^^
#2682 [20:11] <JordanNGT> It says, My computer is not running a firewall
#2683 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> JordanNGT win/profile
#2684 [20:12] <VoxelHead> JordanNGT: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2685 [20:12] <VoxelHead> JordanNGT: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2686 [20:12] <JordanNGT> This is in Security Centre for windows
#2687 [20:12] <JordanNGT> OK
#2688 [20:13] <xales> VoxelHead: What's in the warehouse?
#2689 [20:14] <xales> :(
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#2691 [20:14] <VoxelHead> Wares.
#2692 [20:15] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti: finished
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#2695 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: your container div needs some margin. or padding. Whichever is the inside one. Margin I think.
#2696 [20:17] <JordanNGT> It worked, thank you all for your help, have a good day!
#2697 [20:17] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti: the content div is in the container div
#2698 [20:18] <JordanNGT> Its working in browser I'll check in standalone
#2699 [20:18] <JordanNGT> Its working Once again thank you for your help!
#2700 [20:18] <TheNytangel> How's that DopeGhoti?
#2701 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: you need just a pixel or three of left and right padding
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#2703 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> yeah, in the content div; not the container div
#2704 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> it makes the text at the edge of the lightbox easier to read.
#2705 [20:20] <TheNytangel> How's that?
#2706 [20:20] <TheNytangel> More?
#2707 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> oh, I was editing inline again
#2708 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> let me refresh
#2709 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> that's good.
#2710 [20:21] <Wug> ?define
#2711 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> Where shall I send the invoice? (:
#2712 [20:21] <Wug> DopeGhoti: ?Define interfaces with bmotion, correct?
#2713 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> Wug: Negative.
#2714 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> ?define discrete
#2715 [20:23] <Wug> oh, I get it
#2716 [20:23] * DopeGhoti pokes vox with a stick.
#2716 [20:23] <Wug> its just a dictionary lookup thingy
#2717 [20:23] <Wug> ?define four
#2718 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> ?define moo
#2719 [20:23] <VoxelHead> Noun (1/2) (n) four, 4, IV, tetrad, quatern, quaternion, quaternary, quaternity, quartet, quadruplet, foursome, Little Joe (the cardinal number that is the sum of three and one)
#2720 [20:23] <VoxelHead> Adjective (1/1) (adj) four, 4, iv (being one more than three)
#2721 [20:23] <VoxelHead> Noun (1/1) (n) moo (the sound made by a cow or bull)
#2722 [20:23] <VoxelHead> Verb (1/1) (v) moo, low (make a low noise, characteristic of bovines)
#2723 [20:23] * GreyVulpine hehs
#2723 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> !def Voxel
#2724 [20:23] <GreyBot> Word cannot be found.
#2725 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#2726 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> ?define voxel
#2727 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> wasn't in the princeton dictionary either.
#2728 [20:24] * Wug immediately replicates the feature in wugbot
#2728 [20:24] <Wug> just kidding
#2729 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> !def minecart
#2730 [20:24] <GreyBot> Word cannot be found.
#2731 [20:24] * GreyVulpine kicks Greybot
#2731 [20:24] <TheNytangel> !def angel
#2732 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> !def bot
#2733 [20:24] <GreyBot> Word: bot [bot]
#2734 [20:24] <GreyBot> Noun:  The parasitic larva of a botfly.
#2735 [20:24] <GreyBot> Noun:  bots(used with a sing. or pl. verb) A disease of mammals, especially cattle and horses, caused by infestation of the stomach or intestines with botfly larvae.
#2736 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#2737 [20:35] <Wug> Kealper: you thar
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#2739 [20:42] <xAerux> Anyone here?
#2740 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Only the undead
#2741 [20:43] <xAerux> Gotta love zombies...
#2742 [20:43] <xAerux> I'm having a "major" issue.
#2743 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> Elaborate?
#2744 [20:43] <xAerux> Port Forward...
#2745 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> Oh fun. What issue are you having with port forwarding?
#2746 [20:43] <xAerux> I have a bukkit server, which I had working online before, but now it's just not working :o
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#2748 [20:44] <xAerux> I went into my modem, and forwarded the port.
#2749 [20:44] <xAerux> Still says thought this **
#2750 [20:44] <xAerux> www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
#2751 [20:44] <xAerux> That the port is not forwarding.
#2752 [20:44] <xAerux> wtf///
#2753 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Screenshot the port forwarding page?
#2754 [20:44] <xAerux> Now it says open :O
#2755 [20:44] <xAerux> Let's see if I magically fixed it..
#2756 [20:45] <xAerux> Nope...
#2757 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> ;check xAerux
#2758 [20:45] <WugBot> cpe-173-171-142-248.tampabay.res.rr.com:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Welcome to Aeru's Server. (0/20)
#2759 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it works
#2760 [20:46] <xAerux> Wait what?
#2761 [20:46] <xAerux> Would someone like to try and connect?
#2762 [20:47] <xAerux> 173.171.142.248
#2763 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> ;check xAerux
#2764 [20:48] <WugBot> cpe-173-171-142-248.tampabay.res.rr.com:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Welcome to Aeru's Server. (2/20)
#2765 [20:48] * GreyVulpine points
#2765 [20:49] <xAerux> Ummm..
#2766 [20:49] <xAerux> You used that ip to get in?
#2767 [20:49] * GreyVulpine nods
#2767 [20:50] <xAerux> Thanks.
#2768 [20:50] <xAerux> For what may have been help xD
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#2778 [21:11] <mermi> hey guys how do you give minecraft for fps
#2779 [21:11] <mermi> hello?
#2780 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> What in the who what now?
#2781 [21:11] <mermi> how do you give minecraft more fps
#2782 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Try turning down some of the video options in minecraft.
#2783 [21:12] <Wug> GreyVulpine: http://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/157261795139125248
#2784 [21:12] <mermi> i did
#2785 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Then buy a new computer.
#2786 [21:12] <mermi> i got a NEW laptop and it has 64bit and has windows 7
#2787 [21:12] <Wug> how much was it
#2788 [21:13] <mermi> 4 gb of ram
#2789 [21:13] <mermi> 800
#2790 [21:13] <Wug> :dxdiag
#2791 [21:13] <mermi> $
#2792 [21:13] <Wug> :dx
#2793 [21:13] <WugBot> dx: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2794 [21:13] <WugBot> dx: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2795 [21:13] <Wug> ^ do this
#2796 [21:13] <mermi> win r?
#2797 [21:14] <Wug> :win/key
#2798 [21:14] <WugBot> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#2799 [21:14] <Wug> also, you could try installing 64 bit java
#2800 [21:14] <Wug> which I doubt you have, you probably have the 32 bit one
#2801 [21:14] <Wug> but get the dxdiag report first
#2802 [21:18] <mermi> i have 64 bit
#2803 [21:19] <mermi> pastebin.com/y7fskVK1
#2804 [21:19] <mermi> greyvulpine
#2805 [21:19] <mermi> im zinc
#2806 [21:19] <mermi> remember me?
#2807 [21:20] <mermi> hello?
#2808 [21:20] <mermi> any one?
#2809 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Nothing you can do with that laptop, has an integrated intel HD graphics chipset.
#2810 [21:21] <mermi> is there somthing i could do with minecraft
#2811 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> You've already done it, by turning down the graphics/video options
#2812 [21:22] <mermi> is there somthing i could do with java
#2813 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#2814 [21:22] <mermi> like alacate more memory
#2815 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> memory isn't your problem, it's a crappy video chipset
#2816 [21:23] <mermi> could i get a better chip set
#2817 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Not without buying a new laptop
#2818 [21:24] <mermi> what would it have to be
#2819 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> A "gaming"-grade laptop with a discrete video card would be better.
#2820 [21:25] <mermi> well isnt hd graphics good?
#2821 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> The "Intel HD graphics" chipset is crap.
#2822 [21:25] <mermi> you know what
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#2824 [21:25] <mermi> this is madness
#2825 [21:26] <mermi> all because of a game
#2826 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> No, this is #minecraft
#2827 [21:26] <mermi> its not even worth it
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#2829 [21:26] <mermi> there are better games out there i can play
#2830 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Don't let us keep you from it then.
#2831 [21:27] <skippy2> how do u stop lagging
#2832 [21:27] <mermi> SAME THING
#2833 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> skippy2 - Turn down some of the video settings in minecraft
#2834 [21:27] <mermi> skippy there going to tell you your graphics crad sucks ass
#2835 [21:28] <skippy2> k thank what about my screen freezing once and a while
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#2837 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> That's normal, chunk loading at edges
#2838 [21:28] <skippy2> thay allready did
#2839 [21:28] <mermi> FUCK
#2840 [21:28] * AuBot kicked mermi from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ermi :Please keep it civil.)
#2841 [21:29] <skippy2> and minecraft wont work on mac book pro
#2842 [21:29] <skippy2> just a white screen
#2843 [21:30] <skippy2> can u help
#2844 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> For classic?
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#2847 [21:32] <rarrar> hello
#2848 [21:33] <rarrar> um, soI own an iMac and i recently purchased Minecraft. I downloaded it and it ran great for about 6 hours yesterday. After going to bed, waking up, and trying to play it again this morning, i opened up the downloaded program, logged in, and the screen turns black. I have no mods downloaded and my Java version is up to date! So i tried to play it on the web b
#2849 [21:34] <xales> Have you turned the computer off since you last played?
#2850 [21:34] <rarrar> web browser verison and when i logg in to play it gives me a white box. i really like this game and would appreciate some help please!
#2851 [21:35] <Ketsueki> rarrar: that's very odd... unfortunately I can't think of anything to try but what xales just suggested.
#2852 [21:35] <rarrar> yes
#2853 [21:35] <xales> Scott: poke
#2854 [21:35] <rarrar> ive restarrted my computer and updated it, and tried three diffrent web browsers
#2855 [21:35] <skippy2> GreyVulpine can u help with the white screen
#2856 [21:36] <xales> ??> rarrar mac/profile
#2857 [21:36] <VoxelHead> rarrar: (mac/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2858 [21:36] <VoxelHead> rarrar: (mac/profile) Please create a new system account (System Preferences => Accounts, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2859 [21:36] <skippy2> rarrar i have the same white screen problem
#2860 [21:37] <xales> skippy2: Are you trying to play Classic (the free version)?
#2861 [21:37] <rarrar> so you want me to create another account on my iMac and log into it? okay ill try it
#2862 [21:37] <rarrar> i just purchased it the 1.0.0
#2863 [21:37] <skippy2> no i have bought the game
#2864 [21:37] <rarrar> or whatever the latest version is
#2865 [21:37] <xales> skippy2: Try using the download.
#2866 [21:38] <skippy2> ok
#2867 [21:38] <rarrar> im going to go try what voxelhead suggested,
#2868 [21:38] <skippy2> and my mac is really laggy
#2869 [21:38] <skippy2> any help
#2870 [21:39] <xales> skippy2: If you are experiencing trouble with non-Minecraft aspects of your Mac, perhaps take it to the nearest Apple Store, where the people who are paid to help you can help you.
#2871 [21:39] <rarrar> ill be back if any problems persist. will i be brough back to the same chat room?
#2872 [21:40] <skippy2> no its with minecraft and it frezzes
#2873 [21:40] <xales> Yes.
#2874 [21:40] <rarrar> thank you
#2875 [21:40] <xales> skippy2: Are you saying that Minecraft is laggy when you play it?
#2876 [21:40] <skippy2> yes
#2877 [21:40] <xales> Quit out of all of the other programs you have open.
#2878 [21:40] <skippy2> i have them all closed
#2879 [21:41] <Wug> O.O Ive started a minecraft forum thread that has 2500 replies
#2880 [21:41] <xales> Turn down the graphics settings under Options, otherwise, you just have to deal with it.
#2881 [21:41] <Scott> oh well hello xales
#2882 [21:41] <xales> hi Scott
#2883 [21:41] <skippy2> thanks got to go bi
#2884 [21:41] <Eddie> hi salex
#2885 [21:41] <xales> you left some poor Mac users to be helped by me!
#2886 [21:41] <Scott> How are you today?
#2887 [21:42] <Eddie> skippy2 had to go bi
#2888 [21:42] <Eddie> I had to go str8
#2889 [21:42] <Scott> Me too :(
#2890 [21:42] <Scott> Quite literally.
#2891 [21:42] <Eddie> lol.
#2892 [21:42] <Eddie> No you didn't
#2893 [21:43] <Scott> But I pretended to be :(
#2894 [21:43] <Eddie> You didn't, you just didn't say everything?
#2895 [21:43] <Scott> i guess that is true.
#2896 [21:44] <Eddie> Though yes, you pretended to be
#2897 [21:44] <Eddie> If she had asked something, you would've pretended.
#2898 [21:44] <Eddie> "What are you guys talking about?"
#2899 [21:44] <Eddie> We're talking about the future of Java.
#2900 [21:44] <Eddie> More specifically the language.
#2901 [21:44] <xales> Not the bean?
#2902 [21:44] <xales> :<
#2903 [21:45] <Eddie> Is that not included in the language?
#2904 [21:45] <Eddie> You use the language Java to create a bean?
#2905 [21:45] * xales makes Eddie a cup of Java
#2905 [21:45] * Eddie hates xales
#2905 [21:46] * xales setah eiddE
#2905 [21:46] <Eddie> I only drink tea, preferably earl grey, hot.
#2906 [21:46] * xales shaves Eddie's head
#2906 [21:46] <xales> Eddie: Now, say 'engage'!
#2907 [21:46] * Eddie is ENRAGED
#2907 [21:46] * Eddie is also engaged
#2907 [21:47] <Scott> Now let's go make babies.
#2908 [21:47] <Eddie> That is unrealistic.
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#2911 [21:54] <joe> my mince craft crashed. can u please help?
#2912 [21:54] <Wug> joe: when did it crasg
#2913 [21:54] <Wug> h*
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#2915 [21:54] <joe> about 10 minutes ago
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#2917 [22:01] <joe> Wug: are you still here?
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#2919 [22:05] <Wug> yes, sorry
#2920 [22:05] <Wug> I meant when in game
#2921 [22:05] <Wug> as soon as you logged in, or during gameplay
#2922 [22:05] <Wug> also, was it online or offline play
#2923 [22:05] <joe> as soon as i logged in. online play
#2924 [22:09] <joe> if it helps i downloaded imod, followed the steps to download the archaeology mod, and it told me to log on and play. when i logged in it crashed.
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#2926 [22:10] <xales> ??> joe forceupdate
#2927 [22:10] <VoxelHead> joe: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2928 [22:10] <VoxelHead> joe: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2929 [22:11] <joe> thank you so much it worked
#2930 [22:11] <joe> thank you so much it worked
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#2935 [22:15] <joe> one more question: how does the mod work? i tried to craft a tool in the mod and nothing happened
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#2938 [22:16] <joe> in the archaeology mod
#2939 [22:16] <xales> joe: The mod is what caused Minecraft to crash
#2940 [22:16] <joe> i know but will the mod work
#2941 [22:17] <xales> I don't know. We can't provide support for mods, because there are too many for us to be familiar with every single one.
#2942 [22:17] <joe> are any of you familiar with the archaeology mod
#2943 [22:18] <joe> also, do know of a website that has mac mod downloads.
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#2945 [22:21] <xales> Mods are platform-independant.
#2946 [22:21] <joe> wat does that mean
#2947 [22:21] <schnozzle> I just installed minecraft after purchasing and verifying email but when I open launcher and click login I get in red letters, Can't connect too minecraft.net
#2948 [22:22] <xales> schnozzle: Try playing in your web browser.
#2949 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> joe - Mods can be installed on Windows, MacOS, or linux, or any operating system that can run minecraft
#2950 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> There are no mac-specific mods for minecraft
#2951 [22:22] <schnozzle> triied but stops loading right at the end on browser
#2952 [22:22] <joe> so a download that says for pc windows will work on mac
#2953 [22:22] <schnozzle> after installing updates it says done loading but goes no farther
#2954 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Windows, yes?
#2955 [22:23] <schnozzle> window 7 yep, mate has virtually same comp we did same steps his is loading up
#2956 [22:23] <schnozzle> he's in now beside me
#2957 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Head to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile% and press enter
#2958 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Tell me if the name of the folder it takes you to, has a ! symbol at the end
#2959 [22:24] <schnozzle> ok
#2960 [22:24] <schnozzle> TODD!
#2961 [22:24] <schnozzle> as in my name folder
#2962 [22:24] <schnozzle> has a lock beside it
#2963 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Yup. That would be why
#2964 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> You have two choices at this point. You can either make a new windows account, one that doesn't have a ! symbol at the end... or you can try our workaround:
#2965 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/!
#2966 [22:25] <VoxelHead> win/!: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#2967 [22:25] <VoxelHead> win/!: Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#2968 [22:26] <schnozzle> ook
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#2972 [22:38] <muppet> looking for help, bought minecraft yesterday and bank have confirmed payment, but no game anyone know what I should do ?
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#2974 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> muppet - Minecraft username?
#2975 [22:41] <muppet> chumningtons
#2976 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> !paid chumningtons
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#2978 [22:42] <GoMittGo> Mitt Romney has the experience necessary from running businesses in the private sector to promote policies that get America working again! Vote Mitt Romney for President 2012! http://www.mittromney.com
#2979 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> !kb GoMittGo
#2980 [22:42] * GreyBot kicked GoMittGo from #minecrafthelp (Reason: oMittGo :<Kicks:898>)
#2981 [22:42] <muppet> how do you know I have not paid
#2982 [22:42] <muppet> ?
#2983 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> muppet - The bot queries Mojang's database. Mojang hasn't received your payment yet.
#2984 [22:43] <muppet> ok will have to give bank a call thanks for your help
#2985 [22:44] <muppet> how long would it take approx for Mojang to email you with verification that you have purchased Minecraft ?
#2986 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> muppet - Depends on what payment provider you used, and what type of payment you paid with
#2987 [22:47] <muppet> mastercard on Minecraft website ?
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#2989 [22:49] <quibbit> how do you make your own server for free
#2990 [22:49] <clarjon1> quibbit: step one, download the server from minecraft.net
#2991 [22:49] <clarjon1> quibbit: step two, run server
#2992 [22:49] <clarjon1> quibbit: step three, port forward
#2993 [22:50] <clarjon1> quibbit: Step four, give others your ip
#2994 [22:50] <clarjon1> anyone can run a server
#2995 [22:50] <clarjon1> you just need premium to legally go on it :)
#2996 [22:50] <muppet> the payment i used was mastercard geyvulpine
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#2998 [22:54] <quibbit> wait got that wats the ip
#2999 [22:55] <quibbit> or where is the ip
#3000 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> whatismyip.com
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#3002 [22:56] <TheNoodle> ;check 66.225.198.130:25668
#3003 [23:00] <Kimax> anyone notice massive lost connections from one IP but multiply ports?
#3004 [23:01] <xales> Kimax: Ban the ip and ignore it, is probably best thing to do
#3005 [23:01] <clarjon1> oh
#3006 [23:02] <clarjon1> i've seen that happen.
#3007 [23:02] <clarjon1> happens on my server when it lags out
#3008 [23:02] <clarjon1> and someone tries to connect
#3009 [23:02] <clarjon1> the timeout appears on the client first
#3010 [23:02] <clarjon1> and then the server will do a 'burst' of those lagged connection attempts.
#3011 [23:02] <Kimax> there is no problem with the server at all :D
#3012 [23:03] <clarjon1> Kimax: This can also happen if their connection is faulty.
#3013 [23:04] <Kimax> over 100 lost connections from the same IP... i dont think so...
#3014 [23:04] <Kimax> I just wanna know why
#3015 [23:05] <clarjon1> hm
#3016 [23:05] <clarjon1> Kimax: check logs
#3017 [23:05] <clarjon1> Kimax: check and see if it's a legit player
#3018 [23:05] <clarjon1> if not, ban 'em :)
#3019 [23:05] <Kimax> thats gonna take some time O.O
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#3023 [23:30] <Kimax> lets see if that help
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#3025 [23:32] <mib_ss954c> so i got my ip for creating my server but it says cant reach server what shouls i do
#3026 [23:33] <mib_ss954c> *should i do
#3027 [23:33] <Kimax> what kind of server are you running
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#3029 [23:33] <jrogers> hello all.
#3030 [23:33] <Kimax> is it a private server from your home or a server from a host?
#3031 [23:33] <mib_ss954c> idk a normal free one
#3032 [23:33] <mib_ss954c> from home
#3033 [23:34] <Kimax> if your running it on the standart port, then you have to make a portforward on 25565 on your router
#3034 [23:34] <jrogers> so... it appears 'spawn-radius' stopped working on my bukkit server for some reason. I'm trying to sort what was changed that messed that up.
#3035 [23:35] <xales> Roger: try asking in #bukkit
#3036 [23:35] <Roger> xales: thanks, I will.
#3037 [23:37] <Kimax> xales i have banned the IP, but i still see the lost connection... is there a way to totally block the connection from the IP?
#3038 [23:37] <xales> firewall
#3039 [23:38] <Kimax> oh
#3040 [23:38] <Kimax> i'm a little tired right now :D
#3041 [23:43] <Kimax> xales do you know how to block a IP on Windows Server 2007?
#3042 [23:43] <xales> have to use some sort of firewall
#3043 [23:43] <xales> (see also: why Windows is a piss-poor platform for hosting anything at all)
#3044 [23:43] <Kimax> LoL
#3045 [23:44] <Kimax> it works
#3046 [23:44] <Roger> yes... just like a spoon works for eating a steak.
#3047 [23:45] <Kimax> i know Linux is better... but its not my server... im only a administrator...
#3048 [23:46] <Kimax> but it works, and thats good enouth for me...
#3049 [23:46] <mib_ss954c> i have no clue what portforward is
#3050 [23:49] <Roger> mib_ss954c: google has a little info on the subject.