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#5 [00:13] <insecur> Hey I just have a question out of curiosity.
#6 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> We have answers.
#7 [00:14] <Kimax> yea?
#8 [00:14] <insecur> I am running Mac OS X Lion and whenever I open Minecraft, for a split second I get a warning that says "Do you want Minecraft.app to accept all incoming network connections?"
#9 [00:15] <insecur> Does anyone have any idea why thats all the sudden happening?
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#13 [00:20] <insecur> Hmm I do have another question.
#14 [00:20] <insecur> A while back I got this weird black screen problem where no matter how many times I deleted my Bin folder, it still kept crashing.
#15 [00:23] <Scott> I've never had that pop up for me but I don't have the firewall enabled.
#16 [00:25] <insecur> oh
#17 [00:25] <insecur> I do use firewall.
#18 [00:25] <Scott> That is likely why then.
#19 [00:25] <insecur> Hmm
#20 [00:25] <insecur> weird
#21 [00:25] <insecur> Okay thanks!
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#32 [01:47] <DopeGhoti> Huh.
#33 [01:47] <DopeGhoti> Quiet in here tonight.
#34 [01:47] <DopeGhoti> Everyone must be off playing the incrementally different version of Cobalt or something.
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#36 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> Friend gave me a guest pass for Star trek online
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#38 [01:49] <XionOblivion> can some1 help me?
#39 [01:49] <WugBot> XionOblivion: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#40 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> Since it'll go F2P in about a week, thought I might get a first look at it
#41 [01:52] <XionOblivion> i have a problem when i launch minecraft from the desktop, login and after that i get a message saying that minecraft has failed to start because it is unable to find an accelerated OpnGL mode.
#42 [01:52] <XionOblivion> OpenGL mode*
#43 [01:53] <DopeGhoti> XionOblivion: What video card has your comptuer got installed?
#44 [01:53] <Calinou> DopeGhoti: cobalt sucks, why would I :P
#45 [01:53] <Calinou> XionOblivion: are your video drivers up to date? what is your operating system/java version?
#46 [01:53] <XionOblivion> Im not sure. how can i check?
#47 [01:53] <Calinou> ?? win/dxdiag
#48 [01:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> XionOblivion win/dxdiag
#49 [01:53] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#50 [01:53] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#51 [01:53] <DopeGhoti> heh.
#52 [01:55] <DopeGhoti> What the spoon, pastebin.com? Why must you have a full terminalpage of useless cruft when I view you with elinks?
#53 [01:57] <XionOblivion> http://pastebin.com/Bp7GNQYr
#54 [01:59] <DopeGhoti> your GPU driver is from 2009
#55 [01:59] <DopeGhoti> ??> XionOblivion gpu/nvidia
#56 [01:59] <VoxelHead> XionOblivion: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#57 [02:00] <DopeGhoti> Also, you might want to install Servive Pack 1 for Windows 7.
#58 [02:00] <XionOblivion> is it on the same site?
#59 [02:00] <DopeGhoti> for the latter, go to the Control Panel, then Windows Update
#60 [02:01] <DopeGhoti> or to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
#61 [02:01] <DopeGhoti> ?find XionOblivion Windows 7 Service Pack download site:microsoft.com
#62 [02:01] <VoxelHead> XionOblivion, http://is.gd/RGVbjQ
#63 [02:03] <XionOblivion> ok
#64 [02:03] <XionOblivion> ok where do i install the nvidia, where do i put it
#65 [02:04] <DopeGhoti> The NVIDIA web site should have directions right on it for installation directions, but once you have the download complete; just run it.
#66 [02:04] <XionOblivion> ok
#67 [02:13] <XionOblivion> right now im following a guide on how to install it and its downloading to the desktop
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#70 [02:27] <XionOblivion> ok i downloaded the files and windows is updating
#71 [02:27] <XionOblivion> ok i downloaded the files and windows is updating
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#73 [02:33] <XionOblivion> brb
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#75 [02:40] <Wug> https://twitter.com/#!/jeb_/status/157141588324257792
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#77 [02:45] <|Kiikun|> woo?
#78 [02:46] * |Kiikun| isnt actually using the ladder hitboxes for anything at the moment.... but still thinks they shoudl stay ;_;
#78 [02:47] <Calinou> I like hitboxes being removed, fixes some exploits though :/
#79 [02:47] <Calinou> parkour maps are possibly going to suffer from this too
#80 [02:47] <DopeGhoti> I am not distraught about this
#81 [02:48] <DopeGhoti> This appears to mean I will not be able any longer to fall to my death on the top rung of a ladder.
#82 [02:48] <DopeGhoti> I shall, however, be able to routinely split infinitives whenever I can.
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#84 [02:54] <|Kiikun|> i just hope you can still get up onto a halfslab at the end.
#85 [02:54] <|Kiikun|> or place the ladder ona halfslab
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#87 [02:58] <XionOblivion> Ok the downloads are done
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#89 [03:01] <XionOblivion> Ok minecraft is running! thanks everyone!
#90 [03:01] <XionOblivion> :D
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#92 [03:03] <DopeGhoti> XionOblivion: glad you're up and running!
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#94 [03:05] <XionOblivion> xD thanks!
#95 [03:06] <XionOblivion> nite everyone :3
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#97 [03:13] <dr_bibble> hi
#98 [03:15] <xales> bye!
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#102 [03:42] <mib_7bvyjp> how do you change your contri
#103 [03:42] <mib_7bvyjp> controls when there are stuck on same on?
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#109 [04:05] <Z2G> Hello , i have a problem with my minecraft account...
#110 [04:05] <GreyVulpine> What problem would that be?
#111 [04:05] <Z2G> 2 weeks ago i used a grieft code, that grieft code worked with no problem , but today he`s gone.
#112 [04:06] <GreyVulpine> You didn't buy the gift code from minecraft.net then?
#113 [04:06] <Z2G> i buy it from jocuri-sms.net
#114 [04:06] <GreyVulpine> Then you were scammed. Contact the seller to get your money back
#115 [04:06] <Z2G> that grieftcode works 2 weeks...
#116 [04:06] <Z2G> but now...
#117 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> Yes, because the seller reversed payment on the gift code, making it invalid
#118 [04:07] <Z2G> pff...
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#121 [04:13] <Lykkepillen> Would it make a noticable difference if i went from "Intel Xeon X3440 Quadcore" to "AMD Athlonâ„¢ II X4 Quad-Core, 4x 2.3 GHz"
#122 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> Probably not
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#124 [04:33] <Lykkepillen> Thanks :)
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#126 [04:35] <flabbergaster> is minecraft still fun if play free version ?
#127 [04:35] <flabbergaster> i don't want to buy right now
#128 [04:35] <petern> minecraft classic?
#129 [04:35] <flabbergaster> yes
#130 [04:36] <petern> it's pretty much totally different
#131 [04:36] <flabbergaster> :/ oh
#132 [04:36] <flabbergaster> i don't like buy game if i don't know if like them first
#133 [04:40] <|Kiikun|> flabbergaster: play a bit of Classic to get a feel for the controls, watch the intro video on minecraft.net to get the 'story'... and watch random youtube vids to see whats actually possible :D
#134 [04:40] <flabbergaster> i saw some videos but i think they were not for classic. but i will thanks. i always want to play it but i never did. i dont know why
#135 [04:41] <|Kiikun|> classic is mostly just the 'i like to build stuff and do pixel art' askpect of minecraft
#136 [04:42] <|Kiikun|> full version adds crafting, tools, redstone, ADVENTURE
#137 [04:42] <|Kiikun|> and mobs
#138 [04:42] <petern> one other thing, classic's system requirements are lower than the full thing
#139 [04:42] <|Kiikun|> indeed
#140 [04:42] <flabbergaster> cool. i will try it tonight because i can't sleep
#141 [04:42] <|Kiikun|> also if youre on windows.....
#142 [04:42] <|Kiikun|> ?? demo
#143 [04:42] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#144 [04:42] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
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#146 [04:43] <|Kiikun|> its timelimited on each world.. and i think beta 1.5...
#147 [04:43] <flabbergaster> cool now i have some things to try
#148 [04:43] <|Kiikun|> but gives a betetr idea
#149 [04:43] <flabbergaster> thanks you all
#150 [04:43] * |Kiikun| likes getting more people adicted. :D
#150 [04:43] <petern> it's pre-lighting-changes-that-caused-minecraft-no-to-run-well-on-many-systems-it-did-run-on
#151 [04:43] <flabbergaster> xD
#152 [04:43] <petern> +t
#153 [04:44] <|Kiikun|> yes. petes right there,
#154 [04:44] <|Kiikun|> the lighting system and map gen changed GREATLY since beta 1.5
#155 [04:44] <flabbergaster> i also thought it was a social game its another reason i want to try it
#156 [04:44] <flabbergaster> i work and don't have a real social life anymore =P
#157 [04:45] <|Kiikun|> its social on many levels :P i like doing youtube vids. also play on a multiplayer server
#158 [04:45] <|Kiikun|> then thees the forums
#159 [04:45] <|Kiikun|> and well.. ive been here awhile :P
#160 [04:45] <petern> it's also antisocial
#161 [04:45] <flabbergaster> i think a lot of older people play it or am i wrong? in their 20s?
#162 [04:46] <petern> older people o_O
#163 [04:46] <|Kiikun|> im fairly sure its all ages
#164 [04:46] <flabbergaster> i want to try manic digger, but i think it looked more for kids and didnt want to get kicked
#165 [04:46] <|Kiikun|> ive made minecraft references and kids would go' wait. YOU play minecraft??!'
#166 [04:46] <|Kiikun|> and i got my older coworker adicted :3
#167 [04:46] <|Kiikun|> then again he's an engineer :D
#168 [04:46] <flabbergaster> cool lol
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#170 [04:47] * |Kiikun| needs to find a skin for him
#170 [04:48] <flabbergaster> im just verified my email and ill go play soon. i cant beleve its almost 5am
#171 [04:48] <flabbergaster> x_x
#172 [04:49] <|Kiikun|> yessssssssssssss *boom*
#173 [04:49] <|Kiikun|> eh shadup vox
#174 [04:50] <|Kiikun|> ok sleep nao!
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#187 [06:19] <bear2703> hi
#188 [06:19] <bear2703> hey
#189 [06:19] <bear2703> is antbody in here?
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#192 [06:37] <jamietech> Hi
#193 [06:37] <jamietech> What url do i use to fake a login
#194 [06:37] <jamietech> Where's the wiki
#195 [06:38] <TheNoodle> Why are you trying to fake a login?
#196 [06:38] <TheNoodle> And a login to what?
#197 [06:38] <TheNoodle> The client or a server?
#198 [06:39] <jamietech> the login server thing
#199 [06:39] <jamietech> to see if it's up or not
#200 [06:43] <vibbo> Hi, I have a problem with my minecraft client. I can't connect to any servers at all, i've tried a few ones & my friends can join them with no problem.. it says "Can't reach server"
#201 [06:44] <vibbo> What is ze problem?
#202 [06:50] <jamietech> Your internet
#203 [06:50] <vibbo> Probably.. but any idea what I can do?
#204 [06:58] <vibbo> Anyone?
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#209 [07:48] <hello> hey i cant run or update minecraft help please :3
#210 [07:50] <hello> help........
#211 [07:53] <hello> HELP
#212 [07:54] <AureliusM> hello: what error message are you seeing?
#213 [07:55] <hello> no error message
#214 [07:55] <AureliusM> hello: Have you downloaded minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/download ? Clicked Options and then force update ? Please describe what you do and see in more detail?
#215 [07:56] <hello> sure hold on
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#218 [07:58] <AureliusM> hello: Also, are you using Windows, Mac or Linux?
#219 [07:58] <hello> well it say updating minecraft downloading packages retrieving lwjgl.jar 0% all the time
#220 [07:58] <hello> window 7 home preimun
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#222 [07:59] <AureliusM> hello: Have you uninstalled all Java and installed Java 6 from sun.com?
#223 [07:59] <hello> let me try
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#226 [08:02] <hello> just give me a minute there
#227 [08:03] <hello> how do u install java 6?lol
#228 [08:04] <AureliusM> hello: first do this: http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp and then: http://www.java.com/en/download/
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#230 [08:08] <hello> done!!!!!
#231 [08:08] <hello> done!!!!!
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#233 [08:08] <AureliusM> hello: relaunch Minecraft and see what happens
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#235 [08:10] <hello> well it say updating minecraft downloading packages retrieving lwjgl.jar1% now!!! only 1%
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#237 [08:11] <vibbo> Hi, I have a problem with my minecraft client. I can't connect to any servers at all, i've tried a few ones & my friends can join them with no problem.. it says "Can't reach server"
#238 [08:11] <AureliusM> hello: What antivirus and firewall do you have running? Try temporarily disabling both and retrying Minecraft.
#239 [08:11] <hello> hello vibbo
#240 [08:11] <vibbo> I have tryed that
#241 [08:11] <hello> norton 360
#242 [08:11] <vibbo> Still not working
#243 [08:12] <hello> he is talking to me
#244 [08:12] <vibbo> aha
#245 [08:13] <AureliusM> vibbo: that was for hello, not you. Try this server: par.beastnode.com : if that fails then make sure you have done in Minecraft : Options Force Update
#246 [08:13] <tyteen4a03> AureliusM: only/you
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#248 [08:14] <AureliusM> vibbo: Or, try server: mc.minecraftirc.net
#249 [08:15] <vibbo> ok
#250 [08:15] <AureliusM> hello: Did you disable Norton ?
#251 [08:15] <hello> nothing happen i close my firewall
#252 [08:15] <hello> ya
#253 [08:15] <AureliusM> hello: And retried minecraft.net ?
#254 [08:16] <hello> wait
#255 [08:17] <vibbo> AureliusM: I cant connect to them
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#257 [08:18] <hello> i cant i cant even play minecraft in the browser
#258 [08:18] <vibbo> me neither
#259 [08:18] <mib_gifmvr> how do i open my minecraft .jae
#260 [08:18] <AureliusM> vibbo: Are you running the Minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/download ? And clicking on Multiplayer and entering the server URL in the Direct Connect field ?
#261 [08:18] <mib_gifmvr> .jar
#262 [08:18] <vibbo> Yepp.
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#264 [08:19] <AureliusM> hello: Has Minecraft ever run on your machine?
#265 [08:19] <hello> nope
#266 [08:19] <hello> 1%
#267 [08:19] <hello> T_T
#268 [08:20] <mib_gifmvr> my minecraft .jar wont let me open it so i can delet META INF
#269 [08:20] <AureliusM> vibbo: And you checked both firewall and antivirus to make sure they are not blocking access by java and minecraft?
#270 [08:21] <vibbo> Yupp, inactivated both.. still not working
#271 [08:21] <hello> notch own me money
#272 [08:21] <mib_gifmvr> can someone help me
#273 [08:21] <WugBot> mib_gifmvr: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#274 [08:22] <AureliusM> hello: Hmm, clcik Start then type %userprofile% and hit the Enter key. You should see your windows user name in the title, does it contain any strange characters?
#275 [08:22] <hello> wait i just want to ask IS THERE STILL HOPE DOR MEEEEE
#276 [08:22] <mib_gifmvr> my minecraft wont let me in the minecraft .jar
#277 [08:22] <hello> TYPE AT WHERE?
#278 [08:23] <hello> run?
#279 [08:23] <AureliusM> hello: On Windows 7, there is a Start icon at bottom left of screen, when you click it a white text box should appear I believe.
#280 [08:24] <hello> is it the search programmes and files thingy?
#281 [08:24] <AureliusM> vibbo: This happens in both browser and the minecraft.exe ?
#282 [08:24] <vibbo> yepp
#283 [08:25] <hello> yepp?
#284 [08:25] <vibbo> Updated java today aswell, cant be that
#285 [08:25] <AureliusM> hello: wait please
#286 [08:25] <hello> sure i have all the time in the world aureliusM
#287 [08:25] <mib_gifmvr> how do i get to delet META INF
#288 [08:26] <AureliusM> hello: yes, it's that search all area
#289 [08:26] <AureliusM> vibbo: Have you checked the HOSTS file?
#290 [08:26] <mib_gifmvr> AureliusM how do i delet META INF
#291 [08:26] <vibbo> Where can I do that?
#292 [08:26] <vibbo> ah
#293 [08:26] <vibbo> System32 ?
#294 [08:27] <hello> okey
#295 [08:27] <AureliusM> vibbo: I'm still thinking how best to troubleshoot your case. Yes in etc/drivers/ wait for instructions:
#296 [08:28] <AureliusM> ??> vibbo win/hosts
#297 [08:28] <VoxelHead> vibbo: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#298 [08:28] <VoxelHead> vibbo: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#299 [08:28] <hello> so i type %userprofile% this and it come out a folder call oscar -_-
#300 [08:28] <AureliusM> hello: Ok, in that search all area type %userprofile% and press the Enter key
#301 [08:28] <AureliusM> hello: Ok, and that name has no characters at the end?
#302 [08:29] <hello> yepp
#303 [08:29] <vibbo> AureliusM: hosts file is clean
#304 [08:30] <mib_gifmvr> AureliusM can u help
#305 [08:30] <AureliusM> hello: Ok, and that name has no characters at the end? Just 5 characters? Ok, You've done a force update, installed Java 6, so we'll try creating a new Windows profile
#306 [08:30] <AureliusM> hello: wait for instructions
#307 [08:30] <vibbo> AureliusM: http://pastebin.com/S6CBecCL
#308 [08:30] <hello> oh that is great news
#309 [08:31] <AureliusM> ??> hello win/profile
#310 [08:31] <VoxelHead> hello: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#311 [08:31] <VoxelHead> hello: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#312 [08:31] <mib_gifmvr> can some one plzzzz help
#313 [08:32] <hello> how do i create a new user account?
#314 [08:32] <AureliusM> vibbo: Yep Hosts looks ok. But you still cannot connect to any servers. Maybe try a new Windows profile too, same instructions as to hello.
#315 [08:33] <AureliusM> ??> vibbo win/profile
#316 [08:33] <VoxelHead> vibbo: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#317 [08:33] <VoxelHead> vibbo: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#318 [08:34] <vibbo> Okej, brb
#319 [08:34] <hello> how?
#320 [08:35] <AureliusM> hello: For Windows 7 follow the instructions under "To create a new user profile" here: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/fix-a-corrupted-user-profile just steps 1 to 4
#321 [08:35] <AureliusM> mib_gifmvr: WHat is the problem you are getting?
#322 [08:35] <hello> ok
#323 [08:37] <AureliusM> hello: Ok, you created a new Windows account ? Try switching to that new account and try minecraft there, you may need to download minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/download again
#324 [08:39] <vibbo> AureliusM: Didnt work
#325 [08:40] <AureliusM> vibbo: Ok, let's try nslookup, can you open a Command prompt ?
#326 [08:40] <vibbo> Yes
#327 [08:40] <AureliusM> vibbo: In that Command prompt window type nslookup mc.minecraftirc.net
#328 [08:41] <AureliusM> vibbo: and press Enter after, it should return Address: 209.236.124.169
#329 [08:41] <vibbo> Yes
#330 [08:43] <AureliusM> vibbo: this shouldn't affect server access, but also try: nslookup minecraft.net
#331 [08:43] <vibbo> Got an answer from that aswell
#332 [08:44] <vibbo> It's so wierd when I can update minecraft with no problem but cant connect to any servers...
#333 [08:44] <AureliusM> vibbo: it should be Address: 50.16.203.217 - just checking in case there's a wierd proxy misdirection going on
#334 [08:44] <vibbo> Got that adress
#335 [08:45] <AureliusM> vibbo: try also : nslookup s3.amazonaws.com
#336 [08:45] <vibbo> Address: 207.171.163.13
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#338 [08:46] <AureliusM> vibbo: ok, that amazonaws is dynamic, each time a differnt IP, but that's the right range
#339 [08:46] <vibbo> Okey
#340 [08:47] <AureliusM> vibbo: Double checking I haven't missed anything: Java uninstalled and new Java 6, force update, firewalls and antivirus disabled, no funny chars in username, new profile tried
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#342 [08:48] <vibbo> Correct.
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#344 [08:49] <AureliusM> vibbo: I'm out of scripted troubleshooting, so I'd now try looking at the network traffic using TCPView, see http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897437
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#347 [08:49] <mib_4pxwmv> minecraft has been crashed
#348 [08:50] <mib_4pxwmv> ?
#349 [08:50] <vibbo> I got that now
#350 [08:50] <mib_4pxwmv> ?
#351 [08:50] <AureliusM> vibbo: or there are command line tools that might be easier, I sometimes use netstat in a command prompt
#352 [08:50] <again> hey i am back
#353 [08:50] <again> creating another account is useless
#354 [08:50] <again> talk 2 me AureliusM
#355 [08:50] <[L]> Omgno
#356 [08:50] <again> talk
#357 [08:51] <[L]> Let's not spam 'talk'
#358 [08:51] <[L]> We have a rule
#359 [08:51] <[L]> It's called:
#360 [08:51] <[L]> We can't answer you if you leave or say the same question within 10 seconds.
#361 [08:51] <AureliusM> mib_4pxwmv: Could you give an error message and more details please, try browser and minecraft.exe version from minecraft.net/download
#362 [08:51] <[L]> This channel may have more than one person talking to a helper at a time
#363 [08:51] <[L]> So wait your turn
#364 [08:51] <AureliusM> again: hi, please be patient I'm slow at dealing with multiple requests
#365 [08:52] <dylanbarberdude> Is there a way to make Aether Collab. compatible with optifine? And Isnt zepplin mod post to be compatible with Aether Colab. ?!
#366 [08:52] <again> i just came back when u say i need to create a new account and it does nor work
#367 [08:52] <AureliusM> again: Ok, you tried the other Windows user, downloaded minecraft and it also hangs downloading package at some % ?
#368 [08:52] <again> yepp
#369 [08:53] <AureliusM> again: Click Start then type %APPDATA%\.minecraft and press Enter
#370 [08:53] <vibbo> AureliusM: Im getting crazy here.. tried fix this for hours now...
#371 [08:53] <again> i create like 7 account both standard and administrative help meeeeeeeee
#372 [08:54] <again> then??????
#373 [08:54] <AureliusM> vibbo: network connect problems are not my strong point but we can at least check if packets are going out and whatever might be coming back
#374 [08:54] <vibbo> aiit
#375 [08:54] <AureliusM> vibbo: Ah wait, one thing we could try first..
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#377 [08:55] <AureliusM> vibbo: You've run minecraft.jar using a batch file with a pause at the end? To see the detailed error?
#378 [08:55] <vibbo> Havent tried that
#379 [08:56] <AureliusM> again: Wait please. Do you see the bin folder? open it
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#381 [08:56] <again> and??????
#382 [08:56] <AureliusM> vibbo: follow this: http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#383 [08:57] <AureliusM> ??> again patience
#384 [08:57] <vibbo> Ok ty
#385 [08:57] <VoxelHead> again: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#386 [08:57] <VoxelHead> again: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#387 [08:57] <quiggle> hi can some one help me with a problem
#388 [08:58] <AureliusM> again: inside the bin should be 6 files and one folder called natives. The dates should be after November 2011
#389 [08:58] <quiggle> hello
#390 [08:58] <AureliusM> quiggle: please state the problem
#391 [08:58] <again> omg ok help please
#392 [08:58] <quiggle> the minecraft .jar file wont open
#393 [08:59] <AureliusM> again: Are the files dated November or later ?
#394 [08:59] <quiggle> um i dont nom ???
#395 [08:59] <AureliusM> again: In nay case go up to the .minecraft folder
#396 [09:00] <vibbo> AureliusM: 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
#397 [09:00] <again> 12 jan 2012
#398 [09:00] <vibbo> Do I have java problems?
#399 [09:00] <quiggle> hang on let me get my computer
#400 [09:01] <AureliusM> again: correction: go up to the .minecraft folder so you see the list of folders
#401 [09:01] <AureliusM> vibbo: You uninstalled all Java first right?
#402 [09:02] <AureliusM> again: I want you to delete the bin folder
#403 [09:02] <vibbo> Yes
#404 [09:02] <again> i only have bin and last login
#405 [09:02] <AureliusM> vibbo: Did that run.bat leave any errors when you ran it?
#406 [09:02] <vibbo> AureliusM: 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
#407 [09:02] <vibbo> it says in cmd
#408 [09:03] <AureliusM> again: Ok, delete the bin, and retry Minecraft again.
#409 [09:03] <AureliusM> vibbo: Ah, ok, click Start Control Panel and double click the Java icon there
#410 [09:03] <quiggle> AureliusM do u want me to go %appdata%
#411 [09:04] <vibbo> AureliusM: Got an error when I try start the java icon lol
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#413 [09:04] <AureliusM> quiggle: What error message are you getting
#414 [09:04] <vibbo> AureliusM: Gonna try reinstall java again, brb
#415 [09:05] <AureliusM> vibbo: Oh? Sounds like Java not installed properly.
#416 [09:05] <vibbo> AureliusM: Ye
#417 [09:05] <quiggle> AureliusM wat do u mean
#418 [09:05] <again> wait i only left last login
#419 [09:05] <again> wait i only left last login
#420 [09:05] <again> i
#421 [09:06] <AureliusM> vibbo: try uninstall Java again: http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp
#422 [09:06] <again> wait do i need to download minecraft server jar?
#423 [09:06] <AureliusM> vibbo: then http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp - pick the right Java for your Operating system
#424 [09:06] <again> or minecraft sever exe?
#425 [09:06] <again> or minecraft sever exe?
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#427 [09:07] <quiggle> AureliusM my minecraft .jar wont open so i cant delet META INF
#428 [09:07] <AureliusM> again: I'm thinking yes that's a good idea, follow this link: http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#429 [09:07] <vibbo> AureliusM: I try that now
#430 [09:08] <AureliusM> quiggle: Why do you want to delete META-INF ? We don't provide support for mods here. To return to a good state do Options Force Update
#431 [09:09] <again> why i couldn't just download it from minecraft .net?
#432 [09:09] <quiggle> AureliusM what do u mean options force update
#433 [09:10] <AureliusM> again: You could download minecraft.jar from minecraft.net/download, yes, it's the same file. Only a direct link is easier, but go ahead.
#434 [09:10] <AureliusM> quiggle: launch Minecraft, click Options then click Force Update
#435 [09:10] <quiggle> ok
#436 [09:11] <AureliusM> vibbo: If the Java install fails again, there is a "javara" tool that might clean up broken Java installs. But let's try it manually first.
#437 [09:12] <AureliusM> quiggle: Now Minecraft should be in a clean state. But for mods help see the forum for that mod.
#438 [09:13] <AureliusM> quiggle: Well, first make sure Minecraft runs Ok now and then try mods, would be my advice.
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#440 [09:14] <again> i cannot do it
#441 [09:14] <vibbo> AureliusM: No success, but atleast I can start java from control panel
#442 [09:14] <again> erm i fot a lot of stuff
#443 [09:14] <quiggle> na its not the mods it i cant even open minecraft .jar it has a realy wierd symble
#444 [09:15] <clarjon1> quiggle: how are you trying to open it
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#446 [09:15] <quiggle> double click right click open right click open with
#447 [09:15] <yakamo> whats the best permissions plugin to use with the latest bukkit
#448 [09:16] <again> achievement, lang, net, meta inf where is the text document excactly? and many CLASS files
#449 [09:16] <quiggle> nothing works
#450 [09:16] <AureliusM> vibbo: ok, we need to add the path to java in the run.bat file, It's usually in C:\ somehwe, but to get it exact open the Java control panel, click View and it should be under Path
#451 [09:17] <AureliusM> quiggle: Ok, did you download minecraft.jar from the minecraft.net/download page? named as minecraft.jar, and nothing else?
#452 [09:17] <quiggle> no dont think so
#453 [09:18] <vibbo> AureliusM: C:\Windows\System32
#454 [09:18] <AureliusM> yakamo: see #bukkit
#455 [09:18] <quiggle> im just looking it up right now
#456 [09:18] <yakamo> ok
#457 [09:19] <vibbo> AureliusM: I can start minecraft via .bat file now
#458 [09:19] <AureliusM> vibbo: The full path is just C:\Windows\System32 ?
#459 [09:19] <AureliusM> vibbo: The full path is just C:\Windows\System32 ?
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#461 [09:19] <AureliusM> vibbo: click Start and paste that in, and check there is file named java.exe there in that long list
#462 [09:20] <again> hey....
#463 [09:20] <AureliusM> vibbo: Um, in run.bat you need to prefix the "java" with "C:\Windows\System32\" and probably add a ".exe" to make it look like this: C:\Windows\System32\java.exe -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#464 [09:20] <vibbo> AureliusM: I'll try that
#465 [09:21] <AureliusM> again: I've lost where you had got to Did you look at those instructions at http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2 ?
#466 [09:22] <again> yes i did where do i paste it into?
#467 [09:22] <again> achievement, lang, net, meta inf where is the text document excactly? and many CLASS files
#468 [09:23] <AureliusM> again: You created a fodler on your desktop and downloaded minecraft.jar into it?
#469 [09:23] <again> ya
#470 [09:23] <AureliusM> again: You followed this step: In the same folder, right click inside, choose new -> text document
#471 [09:24] <again> so right click minecraft jar?
#472 [09:24] <AureliusM> again: No, the text document
#473 [09:25] <AureliusM> again: the step is: Double click to open up the text document in notepad, paste these two lines in:
#474 [09:25] <vibbo> AureliusM: Im pretty lost now, but cant connect to any server
#475 [09:26] <AureliusM> vibbo: Were you able to edit run.bat? I can give step by step instructions.
#476 [09:26] <again> so duble click minecraft server?
#477 [09:26] <quiggle> do i just type in Minecraft .Jar
#478 [09:26] <vibbo> AureliusM: I have edit it
#479 [09:26] <AureliusM> again: I do not understand what you are doing, are you in the folder you created?
#480 [09:27] <AureliusM> vibbo: Make sure that run.bat has a pause as the last line, and double click run.bat to run it.
#481 [09:27] <again> ya inside the folder there is only minecraft server
#482 [09:27] <vibbo> AureliusM: It has
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#484 [09:28] <AureliusM> quiggle: ? I think clarjon1 was helping you.
#485 [09:29] <AureliusM> vibbo: wait before pasting
#486 [09:29] <AureliusM> vibbo: if it's a long error messge, use pastebin.com
#487 [09:29] <AureliusM> ??> vibbo pastebin
#488 [09:29] <VoxelHead> vibbo: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#489 [09:29] <quiggle> na u were
#490 [09:29] <vibbo> AureliusM: can u give me a server ip pls?
#491 [09:29] <clarjon1> I was?
#492 [09:29] <clarjon1> vibbo: i can
#493 [09:30] <vibbo> yes pls
#494 [09:30] <AureliusM> quiggle: Right, you downloaded minecraft.jar from the minecraft.net/download page? named as minecraft.jar
#495 [09:30] <quiggle> not yet
#496 [09:30] <clarjon1> vibbo: i pm'd you it
#497 [09:30] <AureliusM> quiggle: So on your desktop there should be a file named exactly minecraft.jar .
#498 [09:30] <quiggle> do u type in minecraft .jar
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#500 [09:31] <vibbo> clarjon1: I didnt receive any
#501 [09:31] <AureliusM> quiggle: Yes
#502 [09:31] <AureliusM> vibbo: try server: mc.minecraftirc.net
#503 [09:31] <vibbo> Ty
#504 [09:32] <quiggle> no there isnt a minecraft .jar file on my desktop
#505 [09:32] <AureliusM> vibbo: what browser are you using?
#506 [09:32] <AureliusM> vibbo: ignore that please
#507 [09:32] <AureliusM> quiggle: what browser are you using?
#508 [09:32] <vibbo> AureliusM: Can I copy from cmd?
#509 [09:33] <quiggle> what do u mean browser
#510 [09:33] <AureliusM> vibbo: yes, right click over the top left corner and select Edit then click select all
#511 [09:33] <vibbo> Ok
#512 [09:33] <again> damn it
#513 [09:33] <AureliusM> quiggle: what browser are you using to download from minecraft.net ? Chrome? Internet Explorer? Firefox?
#514 [09:34] <vibbo> AureliusM: http://pastebin.com/gZ0mFffg
#515 [09:34] <quiggle> internet explorer
#516 [09:34] <vibbo> AureliusM: I cant find any error there
#517 [09:35] <AureliusM> again: You wrote minecraft server. You should download minecraft.jar - please recheck the instructions at http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#518 [09:37] <quiggle> AureliusM im am going to change computer so i will login as a diiferent username
#519 [09:37] <AureliusM> vibbo: well, java.lang.NullPointerException is an error, I don't get that.
#520 [09:37] <vibbo> Okey
#521 [09:39] <AureliusM> vibbo: Maybe time to try this javara tool, I've never used it myself, but the regulars here advise it
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#523 [09:40] <vibbo> AureliusM: I try to download it then
#524 [09:40] <AureliusM> ??> vibbo win/javara
#525 [09:40] <VoxelHead> vibbo: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#526 [09:40] <VoxelHead> vibbo: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software and you can download it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/javara/files/
#527 [09:40] <guiggle> AureliusM will u be on tommoro
#528 [09:40] <again> java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame i need to paste only this right?
#529 [09:41] <AureliusM> quiggle: ok, yes I *might* be here, but any of the others can help too, probably better than me
#530 [09:41] <vibbo> AureliusM: Got it
#531 [09:41] <guiggle> okay because i gota go
#532 [09:41] <guiggle> by
#533 [09:42] <AureliusM> quiggle: just state the problem and the helpers will look back at the log
#534 [09:42] <guiggle> yep seha
#535 [09:43] <again> erm
#536 [09:43] <again> java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame i need to paste only this right?
#537 [09:43] <AureliusM> vibbo: I've looked at the javara readme and forums, ah wait it does include Windows 7
#538 [09:44] <vibbo> AureliusM: Ok..
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#540 [09:45] <AureliusM> vibbo: I have no idea if it works for Windows 7
#541 [09:45] <vibbo> AureliusM: What should I do.. I can try atleast
#542 [09:46] <again> this is pointless bye thanks anyway @#$% notch @#$% minecraft
#543 [09:46] <AureliusM> vibbo: Maybe we should check the right Java is really insatlled, can you do a DxDiag for me?
#544 [09:46] <AureliusM> ??> vibbo win/dxdiag
#545 [09:46] <VoxelHead> vibbo: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#546 [09:46] <VoxelHead> vibbo: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#547 [09:47] <vibbo> AureliusM: http://pastebin.com/ir4PhHYu
#548 [09:48] <AureliusM> vibbo: that's fast, so: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - so should be 64 bit Java 6 from sun.com
#549 [09:49] <AureliusM> vibbo: and the Java Control Panel Java tab View button shows just 1.6 ? And nothing else?
#550 [09:49] <vibbo> AureliusM: Java Verison 6 update 30 (build 1.6.0_30-b12)
#551 [09:50] <AureliusM> vibbo: that is correct
#552 [09:50] <vibbo> AureliusM: Ok
#553 [09:51] <AureliusM> vibbo: can you do run.bat again, but this time just let minecraft launch and watch the black comamnd window ?
#554 [09:52] <vibbo> AureliusM: o
#555 [09:52] <vibbo> k
#556 [09:54] <AureliusM> vibbo: So, if you click single player or anything except multiplayer, do any errors appear?
#557 [09:54] <vibbo> AureliusM: I can play multiplayer
#558 [09:54] <vibbo> no
#559 [09:54] <AureliusM> vibbo: then, when you click multiplayer, does an error appear?
#560 [09:54] <vibbo> Singleplayer
#561 [09:55] <vibbo> AureliusM: http://pastebin.com/QQ7paNhj
#562 [09:56] <vibbo> AureliusM: Thats from singleplayer to multiplayer
#563 [09:56] <vibbo> AureliusM: That nullpointer shows up when i press multiplayer
#564 [09:57] <AureliusM> vibbo: Ah so no error occurs with single player, but as soon as you click multiplayer, an error occurs. And does the multiplayer screen open?
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#566 [09:57] <vibbo> AureliusM: Yes, I can open multiplayer screen
#567 [09:58] <AureliusM> vibbo: Does it show a list of servers you've already added?
#568 [09:58] <vibbo> AureliusM: Yes, but it says "can't reach server"
#569 [09:58] <AureliusM> vibbo: Ok, for each server listed? Or is there only one ?
#570 [09:59] <vibbo> AureliusM: Only have one
#571 [10:00] <AureliusM> vibbo: try add server / in Server name type MCEND, in Server address type: mc.endergaming.com:25565
#572 [10:00] <vibbo> AureliusM: Polling....
#573 [10:00] <vibbo> AureliusM: Cant reach server.
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#575 [10:02] <AureliusM> vibbo: ok, so something unknown is preventing your program from accessing servers. If it's not firewall and antivirus, I don't know. restriction,
#576 [10:02] <AureliusM> vibbo: oops, hit enter too soon
#577 [10:03] <clarjon1> What kind of net connection does he have?
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#579 [10:03] <AureliusM> vibbo: But, you get the NullPointerException that makes me still suspect the minecraft.jar is not right, or Java is not right
#580 [10:03] <vibbo> AureliusM: Ye... This is some wierd shit
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#582 [10:04] <AureliusM> vibbo: I ws going to suspect your internet provider next, as clarjon1 asks, what kind of ISP do you have?
#583 [10:04] <vibbo> AureliusM: comhem
#584 [10:04] <AureliusM> vibbo: I think using netstat may not help, it'll probably show connect attempts and no response coming back
#585 [10:04] <clarjon1> vibbo: what kind of connection? Cable? DSL? Fiber? 3G?
#586 [10:05] <clarjon1> Dialup?
#587 [10:05] <AureliusM> comhem is http://www.comhem.se/
#588 [10:05] <vibbo> clarjon1: dsl
#589 [10:05] <vibbo> AureliusM: yes
#590 [10:06] <xales> vibbo: Have you tried installing the 64-bit Java?
#591 [10:06] <clarjon1> hehehheheheee
#592 [10:06] <vibbo> xales: Yes.. both 32 and 64
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#594 [10:06] <clarjon1> that speed slider is HIGHLY amusing :D
#595 [10:06] <AureliusM> vibbo: Blocking port 25565 maybe? I'll start a test server on port 80 right now, please wait
#596 [10:07] <vibbo> AureliusM: Ok, I have open port 25565 already
#597 [10:07] <xales> vibbo: Has it worked in the past?
#598 [10:07] <vibbo> xales: yes, on my previous pc
#599 [10:07] <xales> hmm
#600 [10:07] <xales> ??> vibbo forceupdate
#601 [10:07] <vibbo> xales: got a new one 2 months ago
#602 [10:07] <VoxelHead> vibbo: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#603 [10:07] <VoxelHead> vibbo: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#604 [10:08] <vibbo> xales: Done.
#605 [10:08] <xales> Did that improve things at all?
#606 [10:09] <vibbo> xales: idk, need a server to connect to:D
#607 [10:09] <xales> assuming it's running, you could try mc.minecraftirc.net
#608 [10:10] <clarjon1> man.
#609 [10:10] <clarjon1> I wish i had a teleporter
#610 [10:10] * AureliusM is still fumbling through his portforwarding for the test server
#610 [10:10] <xales> portal gun
#611 [10:10] <clarjon1> i'd smack the admins of our VPS so hard >:|
#612 [10:10] <xales> clarjon1: linode.com
#613 [10:10] <xales> \o/
#614 [10:10] <vibbo> xales: not working
#615 [10:10] <clarjon1> xales: *sells us spot on overloaded server*
#616 [10:10] <xales> clarjon1: linode.com
#617 [10:10] <clarjon1> xales: *complain about server being overloaded, they move more customers onto it to punish us*
#618 [10:11] <xales> vibbo: do you have any kind of firewall, etcetera running?
#619 [10:11] <clarjon1> Each time the admin who purchased from RSH files another ticket, the lag gets worse.
#620 [10:11] <xales> lol rsh
#621 [10:11] <xales> I've never heard anything good about them ._.
#622 [10:11] <vibbo> xales: nope
#623 [10:12] <clarjon1> xales: Apparently they give only a 48 hr turnaround time to realize the server won't work out for ya
#624 [10:12] <xales> clarjon1: chargeback
#625 [10:12] <xales> paypal dispute
#626 [10:12] <xales> etc
#627 [10:12] <clarjon1> xales: That's what we're doing
#628 [10:12] <xales> k
#629 [10:12] <clarjon1> Glad our community is diehard and supportive
#630 [10:12] <clarjon1> even with all this blocklag and now 3 lagpoints that force java to go to 1% cpu usage ( causing everone to lag off )
#631 [10:12] <xales> vibbo: hmm, but it works fine in singleplayer?
#632 [10:13] <clarjon1> we be peaking at 19 ppl during peak times :3
#633 [10:13] <vibbo> xales: yes
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#635 [10:13] <xales> hmm
#636 [10:14] <AureliusM> vibbo: follow what xales advises, but if you want I've messaged you the URL of my test server
#637 [10:14] <vibbo> AureliusM: I'll try your server
#638 [10:14] <AureliusM> vibbo: it has a lower numbered port open, in case that makes a difference
#639 [10:14] <vibbo> AureliusM:
#640 [10:14] <vibbo> AureliusM: IT WORKS
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#642 [10:15] <Banditasz> hi
#643 [10:15] <Boreeas> clarjon1: "that force java to go to 1% cpu usage ( causing everone to lag off )"
#644 [10:15] <Boreeas> Wait, you are worrying about 1% CPU load?
#645 [10:15] <Banditasz> how to change name?
#646 [10:15] <AureliusM> vibbo: it works with that port number? I just missed you as you logged out.
#647 [10:15] <Banditasz> minecraft name
#648 [10:15] <Boreeas> Banditasz: You can't, sorry
#649 [10:15] <clarjon1> Boreeas: It goes from 140% cpu load down to 1% -- with no response from the server in console during that time
#650 [10:15] <Banditasz> :(
#651 [10:15] <vibbo> AureliusM: Im online now, it works with that port number
#652 [10:15] <AureliusM> vibbo: I'm looking for servers that use different ports now...
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#654 [10:16] <Boreeas> "It goes from 140% cpu load"
#655 [10:16] <clarjon1> yeah
#656 [10:16] <Boreeas> That is something I would worry about
#657 [10:16] <Banditasz> why i can't use ownblocks plugin?
#658 [10:16] <clarjon1> oh i know
#659 [10:16] <xales> Boreeas: That's not terribly high actually, depends on what the CPU is
#660 [10:16] <clarjon1> Boreeas: It's lagging harder on a 2.something ghz dualcore processor
#661 [10:16] <clarjon1> Boreeas: than on the previous host, which had the cpu at 1.7ghz or so
#662 [10:16] <Boreeas> I rarely use more than 10% CPU o.O
#663 [10:16] <xales> Banditasz: We can't assist you with third party software; if it's a Bukkit plugin, perhaps try #bukkit
#664 [10:17] <Banditasz> thanks
#665 [10:17] <xales> Boreeas: Well, Minecraft server on a meh CPU with other things running?
#666 [10:17] <xales> 120% isn't that high
#667 [10:17] <xales> (100% = full utilization of one core, by the way)
#668 [10:17] <xales> for example, my CPU has 8 logical cores, so it can go up to 800% ._.
#669 [10:17] <Boreeas> Obviously
#670 [10:17] <clarjon1> xales: it used to barely hit 100% on that 1.7ghz dualcore we used to be on
#671 [10:17] <Boreeas> Also, 8 o.O
#672 [10:17] <xales> well, in theory, but it actually has 4 cores
#673 [10:17] <clarjon1> with the same plugins and configs
#674 [10:18] <xales> Boreeas: logical cores != physical cores
#675 [10:18] <Boreeas> I only have 2 and 2 virtuals
#676 [10:18] <Boreeas> xales: I know
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#678 [10:19] <randomname> Do you guys help with MC classic issues?
#679 [10:19] <Boreeas> "30503 sigilmor 17 0 1201m 245m 7232 S 23.5 12.0 0:31.13 java "
#680 [10:19] <Boreeas> Alright, 20 %
#681 [10:19] <AureliusM> ??> vibbo smp/servers
#682 [10:19] <VoxelHead> vibbo: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#683 [10:19] <VoxelHead> vibbo: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#684 [10:19] <xales> Unfortunately, we no longer do, as classic is now very old and hasn't been touched by the developers for years. However, we might be able to try, but it has quite a few problems with no fixes.
#685 [10:19] <xales> randomname: ^
#686 [10:19] <AureliusM> vibbo: those lists might help find servers with different ports
#687 [10:20] <vibbo> AureliusM: Thank you
#688 [10:20] <randomname> When I connect to any server, it says: Failed to connect: Failed to connect to server! It's probably down!
#689 [10:20] <randomname> I tried over 10 servers, soz it's not a server problem
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#691 [10:22] <AureliusM> vibbo: triple check your router is not doing anything special with port 25565
#692 [10:22] <randomname> you guys can help meh wiv that?
#693 [10:22] <AureliusM> vibbo: I could also try 25564 and see if that works
#694 [10:24] <xales> randomname: Try disabling your firewall or adding an exception for Java
#695 [10:24] <vibbo> AureliusM: I have open port 25565 on my router thats the annoying thing
#696 [10:24] <randomname> How?
#697 [10:24] <xales> randomname: I don't know. That depends on what, if any, firewall you are using.
#698 [10:24] <AureliusM> vibbo: oh? but that's for incoming connects rigt?
#699 [10:25] <vibbo> AureliusM: think so
#700 [10:25] <randomname> But how isn't it working now? It worked fine 'till last week D:
#701 [10:25] <xales> randomname: Perhaps the servers you are trying to connect to really are just down...?
#702 [10:26] <xales> vibbo: Did you open the port before or after you first tried to connect to a server?
#703 [10:26] <AureliusM> vibbo: I changed the port to 38098
#704 [10:26] <vibbo> xales: both
#705 [10:27] <xales> vibbo: So you have tried connecting with the port closed, as well?
#706 [10:27] <vibbo> xales: AureliusM: Im on my friends server now, pretty awesome shit
#707 [10:27] <vibbo> xales: yes
#708 [10:28] <randomname> xales, I tried loads of servers -,-
#709 [10:28] <AureliusM> vibbo: so your friend changed the port for you?
#710 [10:28] <AureliusM> vibbo: to 25564 ?
#711 [10:28] <xales> okay. if you managed to get on the server you wanted to, then, excellent. some other people might be around later if you want to get the problem solved, and they probably will have a better idea of how to fix it
#712 [10:29] <randomname> The server I'm trying to connect to IS up! It has an IRC channel!
#713 [10:29] <vibbo> AureliusM: they changed to 4662
#714 [10:29] <vibbo> AureliusM: same as u had
#715 [10:29] <xales> randomname: Something is preventing you from connecting then, and as I had already mentioned, it's probably a firewall
#716 [10:29] <randomname> Do I disable firewall from the control panel?
#717 [10:30] <xales> You could try that, yes.
#718 [10:30] <xales> If you have a third party firewall, make sure to disable that as well.
#719 [10:31] <randomname> My entire firewall is already disabled...
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#721 [10:31] <xales> Do you have any third party firewalls installed...?
#722 [10:32] <randomname> I don't think sow!
#723 [10:32] <randomname> lol
#724 [10:32] <randomname> There's actually someone named think??
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#729 [10:36] <randomname> ...
#730 [10:39] <AureliusM> randomname: did you try any servers with port numbers different from 25565 ?
#731 [10:39] <randomname> FFS
#732 [10:40] <randomname> We're talking about freakin' classic -,-
#733 [10:40] <AureliusM> randomname: ah, ok, I'll read up
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#735 [10:46] <stickdude0303> I have downloaded mine craft and can't log in. it keeps saying that it's NOT downloaded, any suggestions?
#736 [10:46] <xales> stickdude0303: What does it say in red text, to the left of that?
#737 [10:47] <stickdude0303> user not premium
#738 [10:47] <xales> Minecraft isn't free; you have to purchase it to play it.
#739 [10:47] <stickdude0303> i did purchase it
#740 [10:47] <Boreeas> stickdude0303: How long ago was that?
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#742 [10:48] <stickdude0303> i purchased it last nite
#743 [10:48] <xales> stickdude0303: Make sure you are using the same account, and verify with your bank that the charge has gone through.
#744 [10:50] <stickdude0303> If I just purchase it again with the same card it won't charge it again if it didn't go through the first time, right?
#745 [10:51] <xales> Possibly, I can't predict the future.
#746 [10:51] <stickdude0303> opps. . I mean it won't charge it again if it DID charge the first time, right?
#747 [10:51] <xales> No, it will charge again.
#748 [10:51] <stickdude0303> hmmm. okay, I'll try and see if the bank has the charge or not.
#749 [10:51] <stickdude0303> thank you
#750 [10:51] <xales> If you get any sort of error, but it sends you to a 'payment confirmed' page, it just assumes the payment was successful, but it was not because there was an error
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#754 [10:53] <Serone> hey
#755 [10:53] <Serone> i buyed the game
#756 [10:53] <Serone> and a new version is out
#757 [10:53] <Serone> it will affect me
#758 [10:53] <Serone> ??
#759 [10:53] <stickdude0303> my brother is trying to set up multi-player on his computer, any pointers on getting that done
#760 [10:54] <Serone> i mean it will charge me automatilacy
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#762 [10:56] <Serone> a new ersion of minecraft is out it will charge me automaticaly for new money?
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#765 [10:58] <amphibulus> Hello
#766 [10:58] <xales> Serone: No
#767 [10:58] <AureliusM> ??> stickdude0303 smp/serversetup
#768 [10:58] <amphibulus> i have a big problem
#769 [10:58] <Serone> ohh i was scared
#770 [10:58] <VoxelHead> stickdude0303: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#771 [10:58] <VoxelHead> stickdude0303: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#772 [10:58] <Serone> thx
#773 [10:58] <AureliusM> amphibulus: we might have a big solution
#774 [10:58] <amphibulus> If i start minecraft 1.1 and the last snapshot after the mojang logo it chrashes :S Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did
#775 [10:59] <AureliusM> ??> amphibulus pastebin
#776 [10:59] <VoxelHead> amphibulus: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#777 [10:59] <amphibulus> ok
#778 [11:00] <amphibulus> http://pastebin.com/QvsiMh1L
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#780 [11:01] <amphibulus> so? do you have solution?? :S
#781 [11:01] <AureliusM> amphibulus: Minecraft 1.1 ?
#782 [11:01] <amphibulus> Yes
#783 [11:01] <xales> AureliusM: It just came out.
#784 [11:01] <xales> amphibulus: You are using Java 7, which does not work well with Minecraft yet.
#785 [11:01] <amphibulus> 10 minutes ago
#786 [11:01] <AureliusM> oooh, I'm out of touch
#787 [11:01] <xales> Please uninstall it, then install Java 6 from http://java.com/
#788 [11:02] <amphibulus> so what i had to do?
#789 [11:02] <amphibulus> ok
#790 [11:02] <amphibulus> ty
#791 [11:02] <AureliusM> amphibulus: follow xales advice then, I've never tried 1.1
#792 [11:02] <amphibulus> Very thanks to your help i will write if it is work
#793 [11:02] <amphibulus> *for
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#804 [11:19] <amphibulus> Lol it wont uninstall java 7...
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#808 [11:27] <ilkleytom> My friend seems to be having a problem where he starts his minecraft and gives him the error "missing text" we tried reinstalled minecraft, and java, can anyone help?
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#810 [11:28] <madalynn> o5040
#811 [11:28] <madalynn> hello!
#812 [11:28] <madalynn> i h
#813 [11:28] <madalynn> i have a question
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#815 [11:28] <madalynn> my friend has a server
#816 [11:28] <madalynn> and minecraft got updated now
#817 [11:28] <madalynn> and we cant enter the server.
#818 [11:29] <madalynn> he said he already re-downloaded the server.exe but it still said server outdated.
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#820 [11:30] <mojo5040> hello?
#821 [11:30] <mojo5040> can anyone help me
#822 [11:30] <WugBot> mojo5040: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#823 [11:30] <mojo5040> my friend made a pvt minecraft server for me and him
#824 [11:30] <mojo5040> and now minecraft updated.
#825 [11:30] <mojo5040> whenever i try to enter it says invalid key or something and to him it says that the server is outdated.
#826 [11:31] <mojo5040> he "said" he already deleted the old server.exe and downloaded the new server exe from the site
#827 [11:31] <tyteen4a03> mojo5040: Redownload minecraft_server.jar
#828 [11:31] <mojo5040> but that it still said that it was outdated.
#829 [11:32] <tyteen4a03> try renaming the server.properties to something else, and run the server again to see if there any changes to the server.properties file
#830 [11:32] <tyteen4a03> maybe you should get him on here
#831 [11:32] <mojo5040> he said he deleted everything, then re-downloaded the server.. so everything was gone. then started it up then went to his server and it still said outdated..
#832 [11:33] <tyteen4a03> mojo5040: Perhaps a server instance was still running in the background? Try press WinKey+R, and enter "taskkill /F /IM java.exe" and "taskkill /F /IM javaw.exe"
#833 [11:34] <tyteen4a03> *pressing
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#835 [11:34] <mojo5040> he's in the chat.
#836 [11:34] <tyteen4a03> defzum: Try pressing WinKey+R, and enter "taskkill /F /IM java.exe" and "taskkill /F /IM javaw.exe"
#837 [11:34] <defzum> hello can someone please help me=
#838 [11:34] <mojo5040> he made the server ^
#839 [11:34] <defzum> ??
#840 [11:35] <defzum> i made a server yesterday and now since the update it wont respons
#841 [11:35] <tyteen4a03> defzum: Are you using vanilla or bukkit?
#842 [11:35] <defzum> respind
#843 [11:35] <defzum> respond
#844 [11:35] <defzum> vanilla
#845 [11:35] <tyteen4a03> defzum: Try pressing WinKey+R, and enter "taskkill /F /IM java.exe" and "taskkill /F /IM javaw.exe"
#846 [11:35] <tyteen4a03> also, we are not obligated to help you. please mind your attitude
#847 [11:36] <defzum> erm i was correcting myself
#848 [11:37] <defzum> and now?
#849 [11:37] <tyteen4a03> try running the server again
#850 [11:39] <defzum> nope sais out dated server
#851 [11:39] <defzum> says*
#852 [11:40] <tyteen4a03> defzum: Do you have other servers running in the same network as yours?
#853 [11:40] <defzum> nope
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#855 [11:40] <mojo5040> maybe to add it is trough hamachi? or doesn't that matter..
#856 [11:41] <tyteen4a03> ??> mojo5040 fubar/hamachi
#857 [11:41] <VoxelHead> mojo5040: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#858 [11:41] <VoxelHead> mojo5040: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#859 [11:41] <tyteen4a03> and no, it won't help
#860 [11:41] <tyteen4a03> defzum: Are you 100% sure you redownloaded the Minecraft_server.exe file?
#861 [11:41] <tyteen4a03> and mojo5040: are you 100% sure you are on 1.0.0?
#862 [11:41] <clarjon1> ewww, hamachi
#863 [11:41] <mojo5040> yes :P
#864 [11:41] <tyteen4a03> defzum: current server version is 1.0.1
#865 [11:41] <clarjon1> tyteen4a03: oh?
#866 [11:41] <clarjon1> tyteen4a03: 1.1 was released an hour ago
#867 [11:42] <defzum> yah
#868 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> oh really
#869 [11:42] <defzum> u guys didnt know>
#870 [11:42] <defzum> ???
#871 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> defzum: I didn't, I don't play full
#872 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> defzum: I guess you will need to wait for mojang to release server that works for 1.1
#873 [11:42] <mojo5040> -_-!!!!!!!!!!!
#874 [11:42] <defzum> thank you
#875 [11:43] <tyteen4a03> should come out in a few hours
#876 [11:43] <tyteen4a03> clarjon1: if you didn't tell me, I wouldn't know :p
#877 [11:45] <TheLostDarkness> Can you restore a past version?
#878 [11:45] <tyteen4a03> TheLostDarkness: Yes, simply replace the bin folder of the new version with the old version
#879 [11:46] <krebbit> :S:S i Uninstalled Java 7 and my minecraft still crash after Mojang Logo :S
#880 [11:46] <krebbit> http://pastebin.com/nU8cSN9x
#881 [11:46] <tyteen4a03> krebbit: Has AureliusM assisted you before?
#882 [11:47] <krebbit> i think yes i was anb... i dont know what was my previous nam
#883 [11:47] <krebbit> e
#884 [11:47] <tyteen4a03> amphibulus
#885 [11:47] <krebbit> yes
#886 [11:47] <tyteen4a03> hang on
#887 [11:48] <tyteen4a03> I called him, please wait
#888 [11:48] <krebbit> ok ty
#889 [11:48] <tyteen4a03> AureliusM: you could have just responded here :P
#890 [11:48] * AureliusM was trying out 1.1
#890 [11:49] <AureliusM> krebbit: I vaguely remember the name
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#892 [11:49] <tyteen4a03> they are mibbit default names
#893 [11:50] <krebbit> i was amphibulus
#894 [11:50] <krebbit> i Uninstalled Java 7 and my minecraft still crash after Mojang Logo :S
#895 [11:50] <krebbit> http://pastebin.com/nU8cSN9x
#896 [11:50] <krebbit> http://pastebin.com/nU8cSN9x
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#898 [11:50] <AureliusM> krebbit: Ah, amphibulus, yes you tried to uninstall Java 7
#899 [11:50] <krebbit> yes
#900 [11:51] <krebbit> so do you have any idea? :S
#901 [11:52] <AureliusM> krebbit: Ok, check Java really is uninstalled: click Start / Control Panel / double click Java icon and look at the Java tab, the View button
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#903 [11:52] <eyoxander> hello
#904 [11:52] <krebbit> I have W 8 dev preview
#905 [11:52] <eyoxander> how can i downgrade minecraft back to 1.0? :/
#906 [11:52] <krebbit> so it s not like easy :D :S
#907 [11:53] <AureliusM> krebbit: what's W 8 ? Windows 8 ? I'm still in Vista
#908 [11:53] <krebbit> yes windows 8 development preview
#909 [11:53] <AureliusM> eyoxander: Did you make a backup of the bin folder ? Otherwise, unofficially, see McNostalgia.
#910 [11:54] <krebbit> Control Panel\Programs\Programs and Features do u think that??
#911 [11:54] <xales> krebbit: It may not run on Windows 8. We can't provide support for running it on prerelease operating systems.
#912 [11:54] <eyoxander> i think i havent
#913 [11:54] * AureliusM googling for what W 8 looks like
#913 [11:54] <eyoxander> so then just rewrite the bin folder?
#914 [11:54] <AureliusM> eyoxander: If Windows 7 there might be old versions of files saved
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#916 [11:55] <krebbit> xales but before the last snapshot it worked on W8 but the last snapshot an the 1.1 dont work
#917 [11:55] <xales> Well, if upgrading to a new snapshot is what made it stop working, then that is the problem.
#918 [11:55] <tyteen4a03> eyoxander: Yes, after you got the 1.0 files, replace them
#919 [11:56] <eyoxander> where can i find them? :D
#920 [11:56] <AureliusM> krebbit: I'd just try Java 6 as usual, and check all the Windows restrictions, and the W 8 dev forums
#921 [11:56] <krebbit> i will try but i wana play 1.1 :D :S:S
#922 [11:56] <AureliusM> eyoxander: have you Windows 7 ?
#923 [11:56] <eyoxander> yes
#924 [11:57] <AureliusM> eyoxander: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Previous-versions-of-files-frequently-asked-questions
#925 [11:57] * AureliusM is off for one minute looking after his supper
#925 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> AureliusM: he wanted 1.0 bin files...
#926 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> oh
#927 [11:57] * tyteen4a03 shrusg
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#928 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> *shrugs
#929 [11:57] <eyoxander> cool thanks
#930 [11:58] <krebbit> yes it is work with 11w50a
#931 [11:58] * AureliusM is back
#931 [11:58] <krebbit> so the new snapshots are worse than the others?
#932 [11:58] <krebbit> or not worse just
#933 [11:59] <AureliusM> eyoxander: Ah, I thought you had 1.0 before.
#934 [11:59] <eyoxander> i had
#935 [11:59] <krebbit> the older work on newer OS and the newer dont work on it?? :S
#936 [11:59] <eyoxander> i updated today
#937 [11:59] <eyoxander> :/
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#939 [11:59] <samfishy> hey
#940 [11:59] <eyoxander> but server i am playing on is 1.0
#941 [11:59] <krebbit> van magyar?
#942 [11:59] <xales> ??> krebbit win/reinst
#943 [11:59] <VoxelHead> krebbit: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#944 [11:59] <VoxelHead> krebbit: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#946 [12:00] <AureliusM> eyoxander: Too late now, you should have backed up the bin folder. But check whether Windows 7 has kept old versions for those bin files
#947 [12:00] <eyoxander> ok
#948 [12:00] <samfishy> can anyone help me with running minecraft on 64 bit windows 7?
#949 [12:00] <xales> samfishy: Not if you don't tell us what the problem is.
#950 [12:00] <krebbit> VoxelHead i m not English speaking so i had to delete all files whitout the saves?
#951 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> krebbit: yes
#952 [12:01] <AureliusM> eyoxander: Try this, but I've never used Windowws 7: click Start and type %APPDATA%/.minecraft and press the Enter key
#953 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> xales: so no more dos prompt on win8?
#954 [12:01] <samfishy> ok well i try and run minecraft, the login screen comes up and i log in, then minecraft screen goes black, and closes, leaving me with a text file with fatal error to do with java on it i think
#955 [12:01] <xales> tyteen4a03: what?
#956 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> samfishy: Please copy the content of the error log and paste it on pastebin.com
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#958 [12:01] <xales> samfishy: Please copy the contents of the text file to http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link to it.
#959 [12:01] * AureliusM cannot live without the dos prompt
#959 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> xales: you didn't give him win/reinst/bat and I heard that dos prompt is gone in win8
#960 [12:03] <samfishy> http://pastebin.com/0X6idQhm
#961 [12:03] <krebbit> YEAH!!!! Thanks a lot
#962 [12:03] <krebbit> it is work now
#963 [12:03] <krebbit> on 1.1
#964 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> ??> samfishy win/dxdiag
#965 [12:03] <VoxelHead> samfishy: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#966 [12:03] <VoxelHead> samfishy: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#967 [12:04] <krebbit> THANK You GUYs
#968 [12:04] <AureliusM> eyoxander: You still there?
#969 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> samfishy: Please follow Voxelhead's information
#970 [12:04] <eyoxander> yes wait
#971 [12:04] <eyoxander> i found it and maybe restores
#972 [12:04] <eyoxander> d
#973 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> samfishy: Also, please do not use Java 7
#974 [12:04] <AureliusM> eyoxander: After click Start and type %APPDATA%/.minecraft and press the Enter key; then Right-click the bin folder, and then click Restore previous versions
#975 [12:05] <eyoxander> i did
#976 [12:05] <eyoxander> hmmm
#977 [12:05] <AureliusM> eyoxander: But do a full backup of the whole .minecraft folder first - copy the contents to a new folder named "m11" on your desktop
#978 [12:06] * AureliusM is off to check my dinner, back in 2 minutes
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#979 [12:06] <t3hkid> hi
#980 [12:07] <t3hkid> i need help
#981 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> hi
#982 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> t3hkid: Yes?
#983 [12:07] <t3hkid> Its My minecraft wont update to 1.1
#984 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> t3hkid: Is it stuck on downloading?
#985 [12:07] <samfishy> http://pastebin.com/0j7HiU1y
#986 [12:07] <t3hkid> Its Stuck on Done loading on the update bar thing
#987 [12:07] <samfishy> voxelhead shall i uinstall java 7 then?
#988 [12:08] <tyteen4a03> samfishy: Yes, you should do that first, then
#989 [12:08] <t3hkid> tyteen4a03 What should i do
#990 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> t3hkid: has it worked before?
#991 [12:09] <samfishy> voxelhead i have now uinstalled java 7
#992 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> samfishy: Install Java 6 Update 30
#993 [12:10] <eyoxander> AureliusM i love u, thanks!!
#994 [12:10] <AureliusM> eyoxander: If there are no restored versions dated before today, then google for McNostalgia and look for the minecraftforum.net thread; but I've never used it and you'll have to work out how to do it on your own
#995 [12:10] <eyoxander> :)
#996 [12:10] <eyoxander> it worked, i had backup
#997 [12:10] <t3hkid> tyteen4a03 Yea its just this uptade what will not work
#998 [12:11] <eyoxander> 4 days ago
#999 [12:11] <AureliusM> eyoxander: why? Did Windows 7 save the old versions? Did they work?
#1000 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> t3hkid: you might want to wait then, the download servers are currently very busy
#1001 [12:11] <samfishy> voxelhead i already have java 6 update 30 and java 6 update 30 (64 bit)
#1002 [12:11] <eyoxander> yes i backup my computer while updating every time
#1003 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> samfishy: ok, hang on
#1004 [12:12] <AureliusM> eyoxander: good, I just backup minecraft these days, I have nearly every version back to Alpha 1.2 something
#1005 [12:12] <eyoxander> ok :)
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#1007 [12:12] * AureliusM is checking the kitchen again
#1007 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> samfishy: Please download and install this driver: http://support1.toshiba-tro.de/tedd-files2/0/display-20110506114650.zip
#1008 [12:13] <mib_dmaldh> Hello!
#1009 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> hi
#1010 [12:13] <mib_dmaldh> does anyone know how to outdate minecraft? i wanna play on 1.0 server, but i have minecraft 1.1
#1011 [12:14] * tyteen4a03 is supposed to study for Geography Exam in 10 hours but couldn't bother
#1011 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> mib_dmaldh: did you back up your 1.0 bin files?
#1012 [12:14] <mib_dmaldh> no :((
#1013 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> mib_dmaldh: then it will be impossible to do so, unless you get it from a friend
#1014 [12:14] <samfishy> tyteen4a03 its downloading now
#1015 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> I think AureliusM has a site that has those
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#1018 [12:16] <mib_dmaldh> nvm. i got it from youtube
#1019 [12:16] <mib_dmaldh> thankyou tyteen4a
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#1021 [12:17] <Ch33f> hey there a friend of mine has bought the game and IS able to play but when he tries to change his skin it says please purchase the game...
#1022 [12:17] <Ch33f> can anyone help pls?
#1023 [12:18] <xales> Ch33f: Is he logged in to his account on the website?
#1024 [12:18] <Ch33f> yes
#1025 [12:18] <xales> What account is that?
#1026 [12:18] <Ch33f> Viliog
#1027 [12:18] <xales> The account is not marked as premium
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#1030 [12:18] <xales> He either did not buy it, bought it on another account, or the charge was dropped
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#1032 [12:19] <baltasar> hi ! i have a question, can i get an answer here?
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#1034 [12:19] <xales> baltasar: Only if you ask the question...
#1035 [12:19] <Ch33f> ... he already changed his skin once
#1036 [12:20] <xales> Ch33f: Well, he didn't do it on that account
#1037 [12:20] <baltasar> i was playing on a server the last 2 month, now there was the update, and now i have version 1.1, but the server has still 1.0.0 and now i cant play anymore (sry for the english :D)
#1038 [12:20] <mib_5hpb34> my minecraft i stuck on the done loading screen....help
#1039 [12:21] <baltasar> i deleted minecraft i few times, but everytime the update starts automatically....
#1040 [12:21] <Ch33f> hm ok i'll ask him again
#1041 [12:21] <baltasar> what can i do?
#1042 [12:22] <xales> baltasar: You can try to use the MCNostalgia program to return to 1.0.0, but there is no official support for doing that.
#1043 [12:22] <samfishy> tyteen4a03 i think its now downloaded
#1044 [12:22] <xales> ??> mib_5hpb34 forceupdate
#1045 [12:22] <VoxelHead> mib_5hpb34: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1046 [12:22] <VoxelHead> mib_5hpb34: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1047 [12:23] <Ch33f> ok it was a tipping error his actual account is Villion but he seems to have created another account "Viliog" ... ok sry it was his own fault
#1048 [12:23] <mib_5hpb34> when i start minecraft it goes straight to the done loading page...
#1049 [12:23] <Ch33f> ok thank you bye
#1050 [12:23] <Ch33f> ps: it now works
#1051 [12:23] <xales> mib_5hpb34: Read what VoxelHead just told you to do.
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#1053 [12:24] <baltasar> do you think the server will make an update soon? or is it normal to run them a few week longer on the old version?!
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#1055 [12:24] <xales> baltasar: That depends entirely on the server
#1056 [12:24] <samfishy> tyteen4a03 what do i do next?
#1057 [12:25] <tyteen4a03> samfishy: Install the driver
#1058 [12:25] <samfishy> how is that done?
#1059 [12:25] <AureliusM> baltasar: there are servers that will update to 1.1 quickly, but others will take their time to get their bukkit plugins right
#1060 [12:25] <tyteen4a03> samfishy: When you extract the zip to a folder, do you see a setup.exe?
#1061 [12:26] <midnightchan123> I was wondering, I`m trying to connect to a server (mine is recently updated) and every time I try to connect it says the server is outdated whats wrong?
#1062 [12:26] <AureliusM> baltasar: and just checking: do you have Windows 7 and did you use Windows Backup ?
#1063 [12:26] <tyteen4a03> midnightchan123: The server is still on 1.0.0
#1064 [12:26] <xales> midnightchan123: The server has not updated to 1.1 yet.
#1065 [12:26] <baltasar> ok but you think the prog is working? its a little bit strange, because people pay 20 euros and theres no service for changing the version, or to decide if i want to update or not
#1066 [12:27] <baltasar> i have windows 7 but didnt use backup no, i deleted it an reinstalled several times
#1067 [12:27] <xales> baltasar: It asked you if you wanted to upgrade.
#1068 [12:28] <baltasar> yes but only one time... , didnt know that there is no turning back for eternety,...
#1069 [12:28] <xales> Other games don't let you play old versions of them, either.
#1070 [12:29] <xales> Again, there is also the mcnostalgia tool.
#1071 [12:29] <baltasar> yes but the servers hace the update immediatelly
#1072 [12:29] <samfishy> tyteen4a03 setup is now running
#1073 [12:29] <xales> The servers require manual updates.
#1074 [12:29] <baltasar> yes, i will try it... hope it works
#1075 [12:29] <baltasar> thy alot
#1076 [12:29] <baltasar> thx
#1077 [12:30] <midnightchan123> I dont follow you xales, it asked me if I wanted to update it, I agreed (this happend 5 minutes ago)
#1078 [12:30] <samfishy> tyteen4a03 now installed that
#1079 [12:30] <xales> midnightchan123: Yes, you are running a newer version than the server
#1080 [12:30] <xales> Which is why you cannot connect to it
#1081 [12:31] <midnightchan123> ah so thats why dangit, good server to, oh well, I`ll just wait on them to update thanks
#1082 [12:32] <tyteen4a03> samfishy: Did it tell you to reboot your computer?
#1083 [12:32] <samfishy> tyteen4a03 nope
#1084 [12:32] <tyteen4a03> samfishy: ok, try running Minecraft again
#1085 [12:32] <samfishy> tyteen4a03 thats if i clicked the right setup
#1086 [12:32] <t3hkid> :( Minecraft still not updateing
#1087 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> t3hkid: be patient
#1088 [12:33] <samfishy> tyteen4a03 i think i must have clicked the wrong setup
#1089 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> samfishy: no, you should be ok
#1090 [12:33] <samfishy> tyteen4a03 just tried running minecraft and it still aint workin
#1091 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> samfishy: anymore log files?
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#1093 [12:34] <samfishy> tyteen4a03 what do you mean by that?
#1094 [12:34] <t3hkid> Dont know why its still locked on the Done Loading
#1095 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> samfishy: when you run minecraft, does it generate more log files?
#1096 [12:34] <xales> ??> t3hkid forceupdate
#1097 [12:34] <VoxelHead> t3hkid: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1098 [12:34] <VoxelHead> t3hkid: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1099 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> xales: I told him to
#1100 [12:35] <samfishy> tyteen4a03 yes it does, similar to the ones before
#1101 [12:35] <xales> samfishy: Try this: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
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#1103 [12:36] <miawn> anyone know how to get a clean version of minecraft 1.0.0 .. my computer was updated to 1.0.1 by mistake
#1104 [12:37] <samfishy> tyteen4a03 it says it was unable to find my product
#1105 [12:37] <t3hkid> does it matter what java i have?
#1106 [12:38] <xales> t3hkid: You should have Java 6 Update 30.
#1107 [12:39] <AureliusM> Um the Satellite C660 has the wrong drivers doesnìt it, shouldn't they be Intel
#1108 [12:39] <xales> Oh, he has a C660?
#1109 [12:39] <xales> :c660
#1110 [12:39] <WugBot> c660: The Toshiba C660 laptop has known issues with its GPU drivers. Please follow the directions here: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
#1111 [12:39] <samfishy> yeah i have a c660
#1112 [12:39] <xales> samfishy: Follow the instructions at that link.
#1113 [12:40] <xales> miawn: There is no supported way of doing that. You could try using the MCNostalgia tool.
#1114 [12:40] <miawn> ok thanks
#1115 [12:41] <AureliusM> miawn: unless you used Windows Backup and have Windows 7
#1116 [12:41] <miawn> hmmm .. haven't backed up sence it came out
#1117 [12:42] <xales> AureliusM: It is extremely unlikely that it will back up things in the appdata folder.
#1118 [12:42] <tyteen4a03> xales: hmm, never knew about that
#1119 [12:43] <tyteen4a03> xales: but the error report referred me to an ATI card... weird
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#1121 [12:44] <samfishy> WugBot ok so ive downloaded it, do i click the setup application then?
#1122 [12:44] <xales> samfishy: Follow the instructions in the link.
#1123 [12:45] <samfishy> xales good point
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#1125 [12:52] <DopeGhoti> Huh.
#1126 [12:52] <DopeGhoti> !isdown www.mojang.com
#1127 [12:52] <GreyBot> DopeGhoti: It's not just you! http://www.mojang.com looks down from here.
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#1130 [12:57] <PapaMatschi> Guten Abend
#1131 [12:57] <PapaMatschi> ich habe eine frage würde mir jemand helfen?
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#1133 [12:57] <PapaMatschi> sofern jemand hier ist der Deutsch versteht und es schreiben kann
#1134 [12:58] <PapaMatschi> ????
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#1136 [12:58] <PapaMatschi> hello i need help
#1137 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> PapaMatschi: Was ist Sein frage?
#1138 [12:59] <DopeGhoti> alternatavely, what is your question?
#1139 [13:00] <PapaMatschi> DopeGhoti also ich habe mir gestern das spiel gekauft also minecraft aber irgendwie hat mojang mein account noch nicht freigeschaltet woran liegt das
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#1141 [13:01] <DopeGhoti> Ich weiß, dass die Website im Moment offline ist, dass kann die Verzögerung bezogen werden.
#1142 [13:01] <PapaMatschi> also heißt das dass irgendwie keiner der gestern oder heute das spiel gekauft hat spielen kann?
#1143 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> Es scheint nur zu betreffen einige Konten nicht alle von ihnen. Der einzige Rat, den ich haben wäre, zu warten und gib es einige Zeit, vielleicht noch einen Tag.
#1144 [13:03] <PapaMatschi> okay ich werde warten und mal abwarten was passiert
#1145 [13:04] <DopeGhoti> Ich hoffe, Ihr Konto schnell aktiviert wird!
#1146 [13:04] <PapaMatschi> danke, das hoffe ich auch
#1147 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> Bitte sehr.
#1148 [13:07] <t3hkid> Im annoyed now waited ages
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#1150 [13:07] <DopeGhoti> I'm DopeGhoti; nice to meet you annoyed now waited ages. An interesting monicker you have selected.
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#1152 [13:08] <mojo5040> when!!
#1153 [13:08] <mojo5040> will!!
#1154 [13:08] <mojo5040> the update for the server come out!
#1155 [13:08] <mojo5040> i need to play online
#1156 [13:09] <tyteen4a03> mojo5040: rushing is no use
#1157 [13:09] <t3hkid> Slow and steady wins the race :D
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#1159 [13:10] <Nitroe> Hey
#1160 [13:10] <Nitroe> I need help
#1161 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> Yes?
#1162 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> t3hkid: the same goes to you :P
#1163 [13:10] <Nitroe> I have updated to 1.1, and the server i playing on needs 1.0.. how do i update down?
#1164 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> Nitroe: Unless you backed up your 1.0 bin files, it is impossible
#1165 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> You can try the McNogstia (sp) program, but no guarantees
#1166 [13:11] <Nitroe> Oh shit
#1167 [13:12] <Nitroe> So in that case, i have to wait for the server to update to 1.1?
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#1169 [13:14] <mojo5040> when will the server update be.
#1170 [13:14] <tyteen4a03> no idea
#1171 [13:16] <mojo5040> >_<"
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#1173 [13:18] <dimitor> Minecraft 1.1
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#1176 [13:19] <dimitor> Minecraft has crashed! need help
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#1178 [13:19] <hellopanda> hi
#1179 [13:19] <dimitor> hi
#1180 [13:19] <ArashiKanashimi> Minecraft has crashed too!
#1181 [13:19] <tyteen4a03> dimitor: Please paste the full error log at pastebin.com
#1182 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> same for ArashKanashimi
#1183 [13:20] <hellopanda> does anyone know how i can downgrade my minecraft to 1.0.1
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#1185 [13:21] <ArashiKanashimi> http://mibpaste.com/AsL5RK .....is that the right way to do it?
#1186 [13:21] <AureliusM> hellopanda: You mean 1.0.0 ? Either you made a backup beforehand or you could google for McNostalgia and look for the minecraftforum.net thread; but I've never used it and you'll have to work out how to do it on your own
#1187 [13:22] <hellopanda> ok thanks
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#1189 [13:22] <dimitor> http://pastebin.com/MrCeRMbR what then?
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#1191 [13:24] <Minecraft_Ryan> Ok, I've downloaded Minecraft 1.1, but it crashes. Tried deleting bin but still won't work. Want me to post error log?
#1192 [13:24] <Minecraft_Ryan> Ok, I've downloaded Minecraft 1.1, but it crashes. Tried deleting bin but still won't work. Want me to post error log?
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#1194 [13:24] <ArashiKanashimi> I think we all have the same bug ^_^
#1195 [13:24] <dimitor> :D
#1196 [13:25] <dimitor> :
#1197 [13:25] <AureliusM> ?ArashiKanashimi: Have you tried uninstalling all Java and re-installing only Java 6
#1198 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> dimitor: looking at it
#1199 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> dimitor: Do not use Java 7
#1200 [13:25] <mojo5040> grooooooooooooooooooooowl
#1201 [13:25] <dimitor> I need java 7?
#1202 [13:25] <ArashiKanashimi> No, I'm not even sure what Java I have
#1203 [13:26] <mojo5040> i have java 9
#1204 [13:26] <samfishy> tyteen4a03 hey im back
#1205 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> mojo5040: Are you from the future?
#1206 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> samfishy: hi
#1207 [13:26] <mojo5040> yes.
#1208 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> dimitor: You don't need Java 7
#1209 [13:26] <Minecraft_Ryan> Anyone for my question?
#1210 [13:27] <mojo5040> i have 9.3 actually.
#1211 [13:27] <tyteen4a03> dimitor: Java 7 is known not to work with Minecraft
#1212 [13:27] <tyteen4a03> mojo5040: Hello future-er ;)
#1213 [13:27] <ArashiKanashimi> I'm searching for my Java stuff now :)
#1214 [13:27] <AureliusM> ArashiKanashimi: It looks like you have 1.6, but to check there are no others: click Start / Control Panel / click the Java icon and click the Java tab, then click the View button; assuming you have Windows
#1215 [13:27] <mojo5040> wassup! anything you want to know? i'm from the year 2016.
#1216 [13:27] <tyteen4a03> I doubt they will ever release a 9.3 ;)
#1217 [13:27] <ArashiKanashimi> Yeah, I have windows. I'll do that, thanx!
#1218 [13:28] <mojo5040> well your not in the year 2016 are ya.
#1219 [13:28] <mojo5040> so you dont know.
#1220 [13:28] <Minecraft_Ryan> mojo5040 I want to know how to fix my minecraft :(
#1221 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> Minecraft_Ryan: Yes?
#1222 [13:28] <mojo5040> sorry but that doesn't have anything to do with the future im sorry.
#1223 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> mojo5040: from the history, java has never released a x.2 or x.3
#1224 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> I doubt they have done a x.1, not sure though
#1225 [13:28] <mojo5040> but times change my friend, times change.
#1226 [13:28] <Minecraft_Ryan> I have version 6, update 29, is that broken?
#1227 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> so the word "doubt"
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#1230 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> Minecraft_Ryan: Newest is u30, but 29 should work
#1231 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> What is the problem?
#1232 [13:29] <ArashiKanashimi> I have two different variations of 1.6 and one 1.5. Should I disable that one?
#1233 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> ArashiKanashimi: uninstall 1.5
#1234 [13:29] <ArashiKanashimi> ok thanx
#1235 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> and uninstall anything that isn't 1.6_u30
#1236 [13:30] <Minecraft_Ryan> (copied + pasted from earlier) Ok, I've downloaded Minecraft 1.1, but it crashes. Tried deleting bin but still won't work. Want me to post error log?
#1237 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> Minecraft_Ryan: in pastebin.com, yes
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#1239 [13:30] <mib_diinm2> kann man irgendwoher 10.0 wieder herunterlade?
#1240 [13:31] <reedlepee> hi, i wanted to know how i could make a server for mine craft.
#1241 [13:31] <mojo5040> you can
#1242 [13:31] <mojo5040> but not at this moment
#1243 [13:31] <ArashiKanashimi> Call me a newb, but I can't find an uninstall option anywhere...Sorry...
#1244 [13:31] <AureliusM> mib_diinm2: Auf englisch: Either you made a backup beforehand or you could google for McNostalgia and look for the minecraftforum.net thread; but I've never used it and you'll have to work out how to do it on your own
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#1246 [13:31] <mojo5040> since the server isnt at the same version as minecraft itself is.
#1247 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> ??> ArashiKanashimi win/javara
#1248 [13:31] <mojo5040> i know it sounds stupid but thats the way it is.
#1249 [13:31] <VoxelHead> ArashiKanashimi: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1250 [13:31] <VoxelHead> ArashiKanashimi: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software and you can download it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/javara/files/
#1251 [13:31] <samfishy> omg i love you guys, it works!!!!! XD
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#1253 [13:32] <reedlepee> thanks!!!!
#1254 [13:32] <Sibbles> Minecraft is stuck on Done Loading.
#1255 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> ??> Sibbles forceupdate
#1256 [13:32] <VoxelHead> Sibbles: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1257 [13:32] <VoxelHead> Sibbles: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1258 [13:33] <ArashiKanashimi> I'm getting javara now :)
#1259 [13:33] <samfishy> thank you to all who helped, including tyteen4a03 and voxelhead, you have made my day, keep up the good work :)
#1260 [13:33] <tyteen4a03> vox's a bot :P
#1261 [13:33] <Minecraft_Ryan> http://pastebin.com/kn42fCXa any help appreciated
#1262 [13:33] <tyteen4a03> and you should credit xales
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#1264 [13:34] <t3hkid> wonder how many people are trying to download 1.1
#1265 [13:34] <Sibbles> I have tried that yet it still persists.
#1266 [13:34] <tyteen4a03> Minecraft_Ryan: try updating to 1.6_u30
#1267 [13:34] <tyteen4a03> t3hkid: a lot
#1268 [13:34] <tyteen4a03> at leas 100 thousand I assume
#1269 [13:34] <Sibbles> Still stuck on done loading.
#1270 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> Sibbles: Please be patient, a lot of users are trying to get 1.1
#1271 [13:35] <t3hkid> wow al
#1272 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> xales: mind updating the topic?
#1273 [13:35] <Sibbles> 1.1 Is full of bugs.. Sorry but it is.
#1274 [13:35] <t3hkid> WOW thats alot
#1275 [13:35] <ArashiKanashimi> Thanks, it's all coming together now :) I'm off to play Minecraft
#1276 [13:35] <Sibbles> Game now doesnt even work.
#1277 [13:35] <Minecraft_Ryan> tyteen4a03 I am installing v6 u30 now
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#1279 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> Sibbles: Updater is not related to game
#1280 [13:35] <Sibbles> But it is already updated
#1281 [13:36] <Sibbles> My game is stuck on done loading, thats my only problem.
#1282 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> no comment on game bugs, but if you are plainly stuck on done loading screen that could mean some files are corrupt during the download
#1283 [13:36] <DopeGhoti> !topic add Please be patient as we get used to the new update.
#1284 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> blame Amazon for their limited bandwidth :P
#1285 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> thanks Doe
#1286 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> *dope
#1287 [13:36] <DopeGhoti> Topic /4/1.0.0/1.1/
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#1289 [13:37] <DopeGhoti> !topic /4/1.0.0/1.1/
#1290 [13:37] <pachuco> so how and when can i make my own server for minecraft?
#1291 [13:37] <DopeGhoti> ??> pachuco smp/serversetup
#1292 [13:37] <VoxelHead> pachuco: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#1293 [13:37] <VoxelHead> pachuco: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1294 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> pachuco: Note: Server for 1.1 is not out yet
#1295 [13:37] <pachuco> yAY!
#1296 [13:37] <pachuco> thank you!
#1297 [13:37] <Sibbles> I have completely deleted the .Minecraft folder, and deleted it from the recycle bin then reinstalled java and then minecraft, and the problem still carries on.
#1298 [13:37] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: that's why I didn't update the noted server version.
#1299 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> ??> Sibbles win/profile
#1300 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: was speaking to pachuco
#1301 [13:38] <VoxelHead> Sibbles: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1302 [13:38] <VoxelHead> Sibbles: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#1304 [13:38] <Sibbles> ok,
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#1306 [13:39] <mr_sticky> (HOW CAN I GET MY SERVER BACK) i did a very nice server!!!! but then i did the latest update in minecraft.. and after that i was going to join my server again. then when i joined it... it sais (OUT DATED SERVER) JUST BECAUSE I DID A NORMAL UPDATE????? please tell me how to get my server back :(!
#1307 [13:39] <Minecraft_Ryan> tyteen4a03 I have updated to v6 u30, yet still crashes
#1308 [13:39] <mib_powmb7> Hi everyone i have some lag with the website, when i click on Log in anything run (Sorry For my english i'm french ^^ ) Anyone can help me ?
#1309 [13:40] <mr_sticky> what do you mean?
#1310 [13:40] <DopeGhoti> ??> mr_sticky recentupdate
#1311 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> mib_powmb7: The servers are currently very busy.
#1312 [13:40] <DopeGhoti> Huh.
#1313 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> mib_powmb7: Please try again later
#1314 [13:40] <DopeGhoti> where'd taht FAQ go?
#1315 [13:40] <mr_sticky> so that's why i can't join?
#1316 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> mr_sticky: Server for 1.1 is not out yet
#1317 [13:40] <DopeGhoti> ah
#1318 [13:40] <mib_powmb7> Anyone can help me ? :(
#1319 [13:41] <mib_diinm2> wie bekommt man version 1.0.0
#1320 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> mib_powmb7: The servers are currently very busy. Please try again later
#1321 [13:41] <AureliusM> ??> mr_sticky smp/recentupdate
#1322 [13:41] <VoxelHead> mr_sticky: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#1323 [13:41] <VoxelHead> mr_sticky: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
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#1325 [13:41] <DopeGhoti> ??+ smp/1.1|The 1.1 edition of the server has not yet been released. See also smp/recentupdate
#1326 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> ?? smp/1.1
#1327 [13:41] <VoxelHead> smp/1.1: The 1.1 edition of the server has not yet been released. See also smp/recentupdate
#1328 [13:41] <mib_powmb7> Ok anyone not problem :( Good Bye
#1329 [13:42] <tyteen4a03> Minecraft_Ryan: NullPointer still?
#1330 [13:42] <Minecraft_Ryan> java.lang.NullPointerException
#1331 [13:42] <tyteen4a03> Minecraft_Ryan: I think AureliusM has handled these problems before, let me refer you to him
#1332 [13:43] <mr_sticky> but it sais outdated server? dostn't that mean that the server is running an older version? so that's why i can't jooin?
#1333 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> mr_sticky: Yes
#1334 [13:43] <Minecraft_Ryan> thanks tyteen4a03
#1335 [13:43] <mr_sticky> so i can never join it again?
#1336 [13:43] <mr_sticky> :(
#1337 [13:43] <AureliusM> mib_diinm2: Versuch mal mit McNostalgia - aber sie ist Unoffiziel . DH auf eigener Gefahr.
#1338 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> mr_sticky: Not if you downgrade your client, or wait for 1.1 server to come out.
#1339 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> AureliusM: Minecraft_Ryan, NullPointer
#1340 [13:44] <t3hkid> Yay yogcast did a review of 1.1
#1341 [13:44] <mr_sticky> if you only were some swedish to talk to :/
#1342 [13:44] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: have you uninstalled all Java and installed only Java 6?
#1343 [13:44] <t3hkid> well not review having a look at it
#1344 [13:44] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: also, please paste the whole error log into pastebin.com
#1345 [13:44] <Minecraft_Ryan> http://pastebin.com/kn42fCXa
#1346 [13:45] <AureliusM> ??> Minecraft_Ryan pastebin
#1347 [13:45] <VoxelHead> Minecraft_Ryan: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1348 [13:45] <tyteen4a03> AureliusM: :P
#1349 [13:45] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: oops, you'ìre fast
#1350 [13:45] <Minecraft_Ryan> lol had it copeid already
#1351 [13:45] <mr_sticky> here is what it sais in consol [INFO] Preparing level "world" [INFO] Default game type: 1 [INFO] Preparing start region for level 0 [INFO] Preparing spawn area: 52% [INFO] Done (1744359688ns)! For help, type "help" or "?" [INFO] Disconnecting gabyyF [/5.60.59.59:50101]: Outdated server!
#1352 [13:45] <Minecraft_Ryan> I have Java v6 update 30, ho9w do I check if I have any other java versions?
#1353 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> mr_sticky: This means the client has updated to 1.1, but the server hasn't.
#1354 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> mr_sticky: Up to now, server software for 1.1 is not out yet
#1355 [13:46] <mr_sticky> so how do i update the server?
#1356 [13:46] <mr_sticky> ooh
#1357 [13:46] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: we usually get users to uninstall all Java and re-install Java 6. But first click Start / Control panel / double click the Java icon, click the tab Java and click View
#1358 [13:47] <mr_sticky> so i can't join my server untill 1.1 comes?
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#1360 [13:47] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: That View button should list only one Java product.
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#1362 [13:47] <Minecraft_Ryan> It only has product "1.6.0_30"
#1363 [13:48] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: which is correct, did you upgrade Miecraft from 1.0.0 ?
#1364 [13:48] <mr_sticky> yes
#1365 [13:48] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: *Minecraft*
#1366 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> ??> mr_sticky only/you
#1367 [13:48] <VoxelHead> mr_sticky: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#1368 [13:48] <VoxelHead> mr_sticky: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
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#1371 [13:48] <Minecraft_Ryan> no, I had 12w01a
#1372 [13:49] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: Things to try : Launch Minecraft, click Options click Force Update
#1373 [13:49] <curmet> i am having problems installing minecraft
#1374 [13:49] <tyteen4a03> curmet: Yes?
#1375 [13:49] <mr_sticky> okey thank you. you have been really nice to me!
#1376 [13:49] <mr_sticky> :)
#1377 [13:49] <Minecraft_Ryan> forcing update, hope for the best!
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#1380 [13:50] <Alza> Hi there
#1381 [13:50] <Alza> Can someone help meh ?
#1382 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> hi
#1383 [13:50] <Alza> I uptaded the last version but my serv aint on it
#1384 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> ??> Alza smp/1.1
#1385 [13:50] <VoxelHead> Alza: (smp/1.1) The 1.1 edition of the server has not yet been released. See also smp/recentupdate
#1386 [13:50] <Alza> So i need the jar of the last version, can some guy it to me ?
#1387 [13:51] <Alza> Yup i know, I just need the .jar if someone got it.. cant find it anywhere
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#1389 [13:51] <tyteen4a03> Alza: It has not been released, so nobody has the latest minecraft_server.jar
#1390 [13:51] <Alza> Nah
#1391 [13:51] <Alza> Dont need the latest !
#1392 [13:52] <Alza> I uptaded mine, but now all servs are " outdated "
#1393 [13:52] <Alza> I the one just before
#1394 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> Alza: Do you mean the server or the client?
#1395 [13:52] <AureliusM> Alza: for the client 1.0.0 google McNostalgia but use at your own risk, we can't support problems you have with it
#1396 [13:52] <Minecraft_Ryan> aureliusM new crash report at http://pastebin.com/u188tk8K
#1397 [13:53] <Alza> Okay i will ask in another way. What this the actual version of the game ? ( no the one updated today )
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#1399 [13:53] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: Ok, same error, let's try deleting all but the saves folder: click Start and type %APPDATA%/.minecraft and press the Enter key
#1400 [13:54] <tyteen4a03> Alza: Client: 1.1, Server: 1.0.1
#1401 [13:54] <tyteen4a03> Alza: 1.1 client will not work on 1.0 servers
#1402 [13:54] <Alza> Tyteen > ok so i need to find the 1.0 jar ?
#1403 [13:54] <tyteen4a03> Alza: find the 1.0 jar for the client, yes
#1404 [13:55] <Sibbles> I made a new windows profile and the problem is still there, what to i do now?
#1405 [13:55] <Minecraft_Ryan> should I copy + paste saves, then delete it all?
#1406 [13:55] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: Well, do it this way: A window should appear listing files and folders inside .minecraft, delete all EXCEPT the saves folder.
#1407 [13:55] <Alza> tyteen > ok thanks a lot dude, so do you got an idea where i can find it ?
#1408 [13:55] <tyteen4a03> Sibbles: Try again later, the minecraft servers are very busy right now
#1409 [13:55] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: but a backup of saves is always a good idea too
#1410 [13:55] <tyteen4a03> Alza: for the client 1.0.0 google McNostalgia but use at your own risk, we can't support problems you have with it
#1411 [13:55] <Sibbles> Should i do a system restore?
#1412 [13:55] <tyteen4a03> Sibbles: no
#1413 [13:56] <tyteen4a03> Sibbles: Try again later, the minecraft servers are very busy right now
#1414 [13:56] <Sibbles> and that will affect my login?
#1415 [13:56] <tyteen4a03> Sibbles: yes
#1416 [13:56] <Sibbles> What if i disconnected from internet and then tried?
#1417 [13:56] <Minecraft_Ryan> done, but i didnt delete saves/ texture packs
#1418 [13:56] <tyteen4a03> Sibbles: It will be the same
#1419 [13:56] <Sibbles> Ahh kk ty
#1420 [13:57] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: what is in the texture pack folder?
#1421 [13:57] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: and did you have versions before 12w01a ? and they all worked ?
#1422 [13:58] <tyteen4a03> AureliusM: What is 12w01a?
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#1424 [13:58] <AureliusM> 12w01a was a weekly snapshot
#1425 [13:58] <tyteen4a03> oh
#1426 [13:58] <tyteen4a03> okay
#1427 [13:59] <Minecraft_Ryan> just my custom texture pack.png and a zip of it, and everything worked, including 12w01a, but not 1.1
#1428 [13:59] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: I would move all that out of texturepacks for now
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#1430 [13:59] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: in case Minecraft is trying to read those files
#1431 [13:59] <Minecraft_Ryan> and delete the texture pack folder?
#1432 [14:00] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: yes
#1433 [14:00] <Minecraft_Ryan> ah yes, it would good spot
#1434 [14:00] <Minecraft_Ryan> ok, just saves left, what now?
#1435 [14:01] <searchhelp> is there any way to downgrade minecraft to 1.0.0
#1436 [14:01] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: um, how do run minecraft normally? From the minecraft.exe ?
#1437 [14:01] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: Just try minecraft.exe again as normal, login let it download packages.
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#1439 [14:01] <Minecraft_Ryan> yes, standalone launcher
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#1441 [14:02] <Minecraft_Ryan> downloading...
#1442 [14:02] <mib_diinm2> wo kann ich 1.0.0 herunterladen?
#1443 [14:02] <mib_diinm2> wo kann ich 1.0.0 herunterladen?
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#1445 [14:02] <AureliusM> searchhelp:: unless you made a backup before, for the client 1.0.0 google McNostalgia but use at your own risk, we can't support problems you have with it.
#1446 [14:03] <AureliusM> mib_diinm2: unless you made a backup before, for the client 1.0.0 google McNostalgia but use at your own risk, we can't support problems you have with it.
#1447 [14:03] <searchhelp> ok thanks
#1448 [14:03] * AureliusM is fetching a coffee
#1448 [14:03] <Minecraft_Ryan> omg, AureliusM is beast, minecraft is working!!! thank you so much, and thank you tyteen4a03 !
#1449 [14:05] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: so it was something outside the bin folder then? That causes this NullPointerException .
#1450 [14:06] * AureliusM should remember to ask about mods and snapshots and texture packs now
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#1451 [14:07] * AureliusM speculates Minecraft tries to read each file inside texture packs and has problems with non standard format files.
#1451 [14:08] <Minecraft_Ryan> probably, i had already tried restoring the bin folder
#1452 [14:08] <Minecraft_Ryan> and I had no mods installed ;)
#1453 [14:09] <tyteen4a03> AureliusM: minecraft hates non-standard stuff :P
#1454 [14:10] * AureliusM cannot get minecraft to error even after throwing assorted zips and pngs into texturepacks, might be something else
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#1455 [14:11] <mib_rfgnx0> hello
#1456 [14:11] <tyteen4a03> AureliusM: correct header, incorrect content?
#1457 [14:12] <AureliusM> Minecraft_Ryan: might have been resources, or stats, would need to use a file handle tool to see what it was trying to read
#1458 [14:12] <mib_rfgnx0> can anybody help me?
#1459 [14:12] <WugBot> mib_rfgnx0: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1460 [14:12] <mib_rfgnx0> is it possible to get my minecraft back to 1.0.0 in stead of the newest version?
#1461 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> mib_rfgnx0: not if you didn't make backups
#1462 [14:13] <AureliusM> mib_rfgnx0: did you backup your computer or the application data folder before upgrading?
#1463 [14:13] <mib_rfgnx0> but there was a program to do it?
#1464 [14:14] <mib_rfgnx0> last time i did it with this.
#1465 [14:14] <mib_rfgnx0> http://www.ze0s.net/dl/MUC.exe
#1466 [14:15] <mib_rfgnx0> hello?
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#1468 [14:15] <Calinou> mib_rfgnx0: not legally for now
#1469 [14:16] <Calinou> and no. PEOPLE DON'T DOWNLOAD THIS!
#1470 [14:16] <mib_rfgnx0> can anybody still hear me?
#1471 [14:16] <Calinou> we can
#1472 [14:16] <Calinou> if you are trying to share a virus -- please don't. ;)
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#1474 [14:17] <mib_rfgnx0> so it isn't possible anymore to reset my minecraft to 1.0.0? :(
#1475 [14:18] <clarjon1> Well, it's possible if you backed up the old version.
#1476 [14:18] <Morrolan> There are unofficial tools like MCNostalgia which apply diff patches. That one won't be updated yet though I guess. *shrug*
#1477 [14:18] <_303> what
#1478 [14:18] <_303> it is being updated right now
#1479 [14:18] <clarjon1> being updated
#1480 [14:18] <clarjon1> but not ready yet, 303
#1481 [14:18] <Morrolan> Well paint me pink and call me barney.
#1482 [14:19] <Morrolan> That's pretty fast. :)
#1483 [14:19] <DopeGhoti> Know what'd be nicer? If Jeb had released the server and client at the same time.
#1484 [14:19] <mib_rfgnx0> can you please sent me the url?
#1485 [14:19] <_303> <@CyborgDragon> yes mcn is updated
#1486 [14:19] <Morrolan> Yes, yes it would have been more intelligent of him.
#1487 [14:19] <Calinou> DopeGhoti: ...he had?
#1488 [14:19] <Morrolan> mib_rfgnx0 - Google will help you with that.
#1489 [14:20] <_303> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#1490 [14:20] <Morrolan> _303 - You got a highlight on "MCNostalgia" or was it simply a conincidence?
#1491 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> Calinou: It'd be nicer _if_ he had.
#1492 [14:20] * AureliusM thinks sonicrules1234 must be popular today
#1492 [14:20] <_303> coincidence
#1493 [14:20] <Morrolan> Ah, ok. :)
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#1495 [14:23] <mr_sticky> #hi
#1496 [14:23] <mr_sticky> Hi
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#1498 [14:24] <Morrolan> 'lo
#1499 [14:24] * DopeGhoti hands mr_sticky some solvent.
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#1500 [14:27] <Kaito> Minecraft update?
#1501 [14:28] <Morrolan> Mhm.
#1502 [14:28] <Morrolan> Mostly bugfixes / fixing half-baken features.
#1503 [14:28] <Kaito> where's the changelog?
#1504 [14:28] <Morrolan> mojang.com
#1505 [14:28] <Kaito> ah
#1506 [14:29] <Morrolan> Well, the most important changes are there, the various bugfixes (if he actually fixed any bugs) aren't there.
#1507 [14:29] <Kaito> thank you
#1508 [14:29] <Cryp71c> Ive heard the Armor bug was fixed.
#1509 [14:29] <Cryp71c> Can't confirm.
#1510 [14:29] <Kaito> are all the changelogs on mojang.com?
#1511 [14:29] <Cryp71c> All the changelogs are on reddit.com/r/minecraft
#1512 [14:29] <Morrolan> Since Jeb took over all the new ones will be on there now, yea.
#1513 [14:29] <Cryp71c> Search for "(version number) changelog"
#1514 [14:30] <Cryp71c> sadly, its the easiest way to find (almost completely) comprehensive changelogs
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#1522 [14:35] <igotit> hello, i was finally able to buy minecraft, it runs fine but for some reason there is no sound, can someone help plz
#1523 [14:37] <igotit> hello??
#1524 [14:37] <mib_rfgnx0> hello
#1525 [14:37] <baltasar> has anybody found the 1.0.0 patch for mcnostalgia?
#1526 [14:37] <mib_rfgnx0> nope
#1527 [14:37] <_303> yup
#1528 [14:37] <mib_rfgnx0> still searching
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#1530 [14:37] <mib_rfgnx0> what is it?
#1531 [14:37] <baltasar> _303: you have it?
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#1533 [14:38] <_303> sonicrules1234: <baltasar> has anybody found the 1.0.0 patch for mcnostalgia?
#1534 [14:38] <mib_rfgnx0> :D
#1535 [14:38] <igotit> can some one help me help with m sound problem?
#1536 [14:38] <mib_rfgnx0> is your pc sound on?
#1537 [14:38] <sonicrules1234> baltasar: Its in the mcnostalgia thread
#1538 [14:38] <mib_rfgnx0> what?
#1539 [14:38] <sonicrules1234> Well, the newer one
#1540 [14:38] <baltasar> ok, is it within the big zip packageß
#1541 [14:38] <igotit> yeah me sound works fine wit everything cept mincecraft
#1542 [14:38] <baltasar> ?
#1543 [14:38] <sonicrules1234> baltasar: Yep
#1544 [14:38] <mib_rfgnx0> what is the url to dowload>?
#1545 [14:38] <baltasar> name?
#1546 [14:39] <baltasar> pls :P
#1547 [14:39] <sonicrules1234> Huh?
#1548 [14:39] <mib_rfgnx0> from where did you download it?
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#1550 [14:39] <baltasar> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/106402-tool-cyborgs-tools-mcnostalgia-104/
#1551 [14:39] <elias> can somebody help me
#1552 [14:39] <WugBot> elias: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1553 [14:39] <baltasar> from there
#1554 [14:40] <sonicrules1234> baltasar: Click the link at the top of the thread that goes to the newer one
#1555 [14:40] <elias> i try to run minecrft and when i click create new world or load a previous world it beginsn to load and then crashes
#1556 [14:40] <igotit> so does anyone know why i have no sound plz help
#1557 [14:41] <baltasar> ok thx! i try it :P
#1558 [14:41] <sonicrules1234> No problem
#1559 [14:41] <sonicrules1234> No problem
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#1562 [14:41] <mib_rfgnx0> what is the number for 1.0.0?
#1563 [14:42] <AureliusM> igotit: How are you running Minecraft? Browser or standalone minecraft.exe?
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#1565 [14:42] <elias> hello?
#1566 [14:42] <AureliusM> igotit: Possible causes of no sound (happend to me a few times): YouTube videos in browser; not enough memory free.
#1567 [14:43] <igotit> stand alone but there no volume in the browser version either
#1568 [14:43] <AureliusM> igotit: You mean the Options part of Minecraft has no Volume control?
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#1570 [14:44] <igotit> wow i feel dumb now
#1571 [14:44] <igotit> that was it
#1572 [14:44] <igotit> it was set on zero
#1573 [14:44] <igotit> it was set on zero
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#1575 [14:44] <ZLolie> Any one having issues with mincraft update occurring today?
#1576 [14:44] <elias> no but i need help plz
#1577 [14:44] <AureliusM> igotit: Ah, the simple cause of no volume.
#1578 [14:45] <AureliusM> ZLolie: and elias: please state your problem
#1579 [14:46] <elias> i try to run minecraft but when i start a new world or enter an old one it begins to load and then crashes when the bar is full
#1580 [14:46] <AureliusM> elias: I'm reading your problem now
#1581 [14:46] <elias> thanks
#1582 [14:47] <ZLolie> updating minecraft and either selecting - not now or update causes game to stall
#1583 [14:47] <AureliusM> elias: Did it work before? If yesm what changed from then?
#1584 [14:48] <AureliusM> ZLolie: do you have mods installed?
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#1586 [14:48] <ZLolie> only texture packs
#1587 [14:48] <elias> well it worked (not well, but worked) for 1.7 but after that it stopped. i purchased more rom in order to help but still no luck
#1588 [14:48] <Cryp71c> s/rom/ram
#1589 [14:48] <AureliusM> ZLolie: any high definition textures ?
#1590 [14:49] <mib_4jyhf6> hi can someone tell me how i can get back to 1.0.0
#1591 [14:49] <ZLolie> and last login was using default and yes HD
#1592 [14:49] <AureliusM> elias: So you've been running with 1.7 because 1.8 caused it to crash?
#1593 [14:49] <Cryp71c> mib_4jyhf6, check ./minecraft/bin for an old 1.0.0 .jar
#1594 [14:49] <Cryp71c> otherwise, there are no official channels by which you can download it, afaik.
#1595 [14:50] <AureliusM> ZLolie: how did you get HD textures to work without mods?
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#1597 [14:50] <elias> im prety sure thats when it first started
#1598 [14:50] <mib_4jyhf6> how?
#1599 [14:51] <mib_4jyhf6> i checked there arent any
#1600 [14:51] <AureliusM> elias: there were some old systems that could not support the new OpenGL features in 1.8, but that means you are still running 1.7.3 right?
#1601 [14:51] <mib_4jyhf6> are there any easy ways
#1602 [14:51] <ZLolie> well this is shared pc, and I was not the one that installed those TxtPcks, hence I logged in with default.... may could be person used mods.... It was working up until today and update option choice
#1603 [14:52] <Suhutki> Hello. Maybe you know why my comp is crashing when I press E to open inventory? That is probably cause of my graphics card, but with version 1.7.3 weren't any problems.
#1604 [14:52] <ZLolie> should i remove them
#1605 [14:52] <langkid1> yay update!
#1606 [14:52] <langkid1> :D spanish
#1607 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> langkid1: be careful
#1608 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> ??> langkid1 smp/1.1
#1609 [14:52] <VoxelHead> langkid1: (smp/1.1) The 1.1 edition of the server has not yet been released. See also smp/recentupdate
#1610 [14:52] <AureliusM> ZLolie: If you do not want to upgrade to 1.1 I suggest first making a full backup copy of %APPDATA%/.minecraft - then we'll try to trace the error
#1611 [14:52] <elias> no im updated to 1.1 now. and i changed all settings so opengl is off
#1612 [14:52] <Morrolan> ??< smp/recentupdate
#1613 [14:53] <langkid1> I can read ONE word in the spanish version, the ones for easy and hard :<
#1614 [14:53] <AureliusM> elias: but nothing works? no worlds load, and you cannot create new worlds ?
#1615 [14:53] <elias> well i create a new world and it will actually create the world but minecraft crashes before i ever enter it
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#1617 [14:54] <elias> the world will be there next time i load it tho
#1618 [14:54] <ZLolie> ok, will do backup, but as of now I'm not getting error, game just stalls = Just sits at screen = download complete screen...
#1619 [14:54] <AureliusM> elias: let's check your save worlds: if Windows, click Start and type %APPDATA%/.minecraft/saves and then press the Enter key
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#1621 [14:55] <blaphmat> WHEN WILL SERVER UPDATE BE.
#1622 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> blaphmat: when Mojang releases it.
#1623 [14:55] <blaphmat> WHEN WILL THAT BE!!
#1624 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> ?? dont/shout
#1625 [14:55] <VoxelHead> dont/shout: There is no need to yell. The acoustics in here are wonderful.
#1626 [14:55] <AureliusM> ZLolie: I suggest backup in case 1.1 does not work for you for some reason, and to allow playing on servers with 1.0.0
#1627 [14:55] <blaphmat> its typing..
#1628 [14:55] <blaphmat> i cant yell because you guys wouldnt hear me.
#1629 [14:56] <blaphmat> if if i was yelling you still wouldnt hear me
#1630 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> blaphmat: No one in here knows when Mojang will do anything. You'll just have to wait.
#1631 [14:56] <blaphmat> just inclining since im typing in capitals doesnt also mean im yelling.
#1632 [14:56] <ZLolie> ok will do that AureliusM, thank you for help :) peace and out
#1633 [14:56] <elias> ok i opened my saves
#1634 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> your nettiquetty has nothing to do with the angle of the back of my chair.
#1635 [14:56] <AureliusM> elias: so, you should see an Explorer window titles saves with one folder for each world you have
#1636 [14:56] <mib_4jyhf6> !myip
#1637 [14:56] <Cryp71c> blaphmat, no one here works for Mojang (pretty sure, anyways), none of us magically know when the 1.1 server jar will come out.
#1638 [14:56] <AureliusM> elias: *titled saves*
#1639 [14:56] <mib_4jyhf6> can someone check if it works
#1640 [14:57] <Cryp71c> blaphmat, go ask on jeb's twitter.
#1641 [14:57] <elias> ya im familiar with all the folders
#1642 [14:57] <blaphmat> dont type in that ip shiz.
#1643 [14:57] <blaphmat> and thanks for doing that mib..
#1644 [14:57] <blaphmat> i will backfire it at ya
#1645 [14:57] <AureliusM> ZLolie: come back after you've backed up, we'll try to trace the error
#1646 [14:57] <ZLolie> will do
#1647 [14:58] <blaphmat> so you are from kuwait
#1648 [14:58] <blaphmat> hmm..
#1649 [14:58] <mib_4jyhf6> ya
#1650 [14:58] <Cryp71c> mib_4jyhf6, works more or less, lagging down my client though.
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#1652 [14:58] <mib_4jyhf6> finally thanks
#1653 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> !check 62.150.124.60
#1654 [14:58] <mib_4jyhf6> :)
#1655 [14:58] <AureliusM> elias: Ok, let's check: no mods and you're using Java 6 right?
#1656 [14:59] <elias> no mods completely fresh minecraf how do i check java
#1657 [14:59] <mib_4jyhf6> oh and i live in kuwait but im canadian
#1658 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> ??> elias java/version
#1659 [14:59] <VoxelHead> elias: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1660 [14:59] <VoxelHead> elias: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1661 [14:59] <AureliusM> elias: And after it crashes is there a file named hs_err_pid somewhere?
#1662 [14:59] <mib_4jyhf6> bye
#1663 [14:59] <AureliusM> elias: Ah yes, best to check Java with the link that DopeGhoti made for you
#1664 [14:59] <mib_4jyhf6> :)
#1665 [15:00] <elias> yeas that folder appears. and i have java 6 update 26
#1666 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> it's old.
#1667 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> ??> elias getjava
#1668 [15:00] <VoxelHead> elias: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#1669 [15:01] <AureliusM> elias: I have build 1.6.0_26-b03 but it's best to get the latest, please follow those getjava instructions
#1670 [15:01] <elias> do i get online or offline/
#1671 [15:01] <elias> ?
#1672 [15:02] <elias> online right?
#1673 [15:02] <AureliusM> elias: I usually first uninstall using this: http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp and then install with: an offline download, but the online should work too
#1674 [15:03] <elias> ok holdon
#1675 [15:03] * DopeGhoti holds on.
#1675 [15:04] * AureliusM watches docm's 1.1 video
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#1676 [15:10] <ZLolie> I think need to clean up my %appdata% folder, what can or should I keep .... in trying to run update or not game keeps stalling... backup of %appday% completed...?
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#1678 [15:10] <Morrolan> keep the "saves" folder. And if you have texturepacks the "texturepacks" one too.
#1679 [15:11] <clarjon1> alright
#1680 [15:11] <clarjon1> my friend is having issues
#1681 [15:11] <Morrolan> the servers.dat file if you don't want to readd all your favourites.
#1682 [15:11] <clarjon1> http://pastebin.com/G7Hn1zK3
#1683 [15:11] <Morrolan> Division by zero? Haha.
#1684 [15:12] <ZLolie> OK Morralan but from earlier help, figured it may be th HD txtpcks causing problem... but other than those two.... can get rid of everything else?
#1685 [15:12] <elias> hi i need help. first of al can someone send me a link for java download
#1686 [15:12] <clarjon1> yeah, it starts to download the files, then gives that
#1687 [15:12] <AureliusM> ZLolie: do what Morrolan suggests; if that fails move the texturepacks folder away and retry as that *might* cause a problem
#1688 [15:12] <Morrolan> ZLolie - Yep, all the other folders are expendable.
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#1690 [15:12] <AureliusM> elias: http://www.java.com/en/download/
#1691 [15:12] <ZLolie> ok will do and will be back :
#1692 [15:12] <Dalkonzar> can anyone help me with a problem Im having with my server?
#1693 [15:13] <elias> thank you. i had to close my internet because it used java
#1694 [15:13] <AureliusM> Dalkonzar: what is the problem?
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#1696 [15:13] <Dalkonzar> I am trying to change the world file name and every time I change it (I change the file name in settings to) it regens the old file name
#1697 [15:13] <clarjon1> ok, i'm updatng his java first thing.
#1698 [15:14] <Dalkonzar> any suggestions?
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#1701 [15:14] <minecrafter> urm
#1702 [15:14] <minecrafter> urm
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#1704 [15:15] <minecrafter> you know the new 1.1 update?
#1705 [15:15] <AureliusM> Dalkonzar: Hmm, I always keep the server world the same
#1706 [15:15] <minecrafter> does updataing to 1.1 get rid of your current mods?
#1707 [15:15] <Cryp71c> minecrafter, yes.
#1708 [15:15] <minecrafter> so ill have to wait till a 1.1 version of them is made?
#1709 [15:15] <Cryp71c> They're built into the .jar file, updating causes a new .jar file to be downloaded, ergo, your old mods are not in the new .jar file.
#1710 [15:15] <clarjon1> ok, updated to latest java
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#1712 [15:15] <Dalkonzar> well I changed it a while back to "Indivisible Anarchy" but the 2 word file name is running into issues with a pluggin im trying to use (bukkit server)
#1713 [15:15] <clarjon1> still got a division by zero error
#1714 [15:15] <Cryp71c> minecrafter, probably
#1715 [15:16] <gamakichi> and had an error in Minecraft If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 3bf78bf3 -------- Generated 12/01/12 15:04 Minecraft: Minecraft 1.0.0 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.6.0_30, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM
#1716 [15:16] <minecrafter> darn!
#1717 [15:16] <langkid1> minecrafter, back up your JAR files
#1718 [15:16] <minecrafter> whenever i try to do that it doesnt work
#1719 [15:16] <langkid1> use this http://digiex.net/minecraft/mcvtool/ to change between JAR files
#1720 [15:16] <langkid1> that launcher allows you to use multiple JAR files
#1721 [15:16] <langkid1> or you can use AnyCraft
#1722 [15:17] <elias> ok i downloaded java what now
#1723 [15:17] <minecrafter> kk, what about the backup the jar thing? how i do that?
#1724 [15:17] <gamakichi> and had an error If you wish to Minecraft report this, please copy this text and email Entire support@mojang.com to it. Please include a description of what you did When the error occurred. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT -------- 3bf78bf3 Generated 12/01/12 15:04 Minecraft: Minecraft 1.0.0 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.6.0_30, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM:
#1725 [15:17] <langkid1> minecrafter, just copy and paste the JAR in .minecraft/bin to another folder
#1726 [15:17] <AureliusM> Dalkonzar: wait do you mean the name inside server.properties?
#1727 [15:17] <langkid1> then force update, AFTER copy and pasting
#1728 [15:17] <minecrafter> kk
#1729 [15:17] <Dalkonzar> well what im doing is I change the actual world file name to the new name then I got into server properties and change the one its supposed to load
#1730 [15:18] <Dalkonzar> but it still wants to generate the old named world files
#1731 [15:18] <langkid1> gamakichi, do not post that here
#1732 [15:18] <langkid1> gamakichi, http://pastebin.com please
#1733 [15:18] <langkid1> then give us the link to the paste :)
#1734 [15:18] <minecrafter> thanks!
#1735 [15:18] <langkid1> :)
#1736 [15:19] <AureliusM> Dalkonzar: level-name=world <- that line ? You make these changes with Minecraft Server off? I'll try it now myself, one minute.
#1737 [15:19] <Dalkonzar> yes I do
#1738 [15:19] <elias> aureliusM?
#1739 [15:20] <langkid1> I hear slimes in my hosue
#1740 [15:20] <langkid1> which is near the surface
#1741 [15:20] <langkid1> what changed about slimes in 1.1?
#1742 [15:20] <langkid1> or, is a NEW mob making the slime sound?!
#1743 [15:20] <AureliusM> Dalkonzar: I've just changed level-name=world to level-name=world2 and then renamed the folder world to world2 and started server, and it worked as expected,
#1744 [15:21] <Morrolan> langkid1 - It might be a bit early to ask about slimes. I can imagine that their spawing algorithm changed though.
#1745 [15:21] <AureliusM> elias: yes, listening
#1746 [15:21] <Dalkonzar> whom......ill play with it some more it worked before but now its not for some reason
#1747 [15:21] <elias> ok i downloaded new java now what
#1748 [15:21] <t3hkid> :9
#1749 [15:21] <AureliusM> Dalkonzar: Maybe there was something strange in the name?
#1750 [15:22] <t3hkid> Any one got minecraft 1.1
#1751 [15:22] <Dalkonzar> maybe but ive tried a couple times 2 letters all caps should work as a file name shouldnt it?
#1752 [15:22] <AureliusM> elias: Ok, now try minecraft again and see what happens
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#1754 [15:23] <[ALT]Blade> Hello
#1755 [15:23] <elias> ok
#1756 [15:23] <[ALT]Blade> I got a problem with minecraft
#1757 [15:23] <[ALT]Blade> when i start mc
#1758 [15:23] <AureliusM> Dalkonzar: Might be the space in "Indivisible Anarchy", I'll do another test
#1759 [15:23] <[ALT]Blade> i can log in
#1760 [15:23] <[ALT]Blade> then it loads
#1761 [15:23] <[ALT]Blade> when the mojang screen has to load
#1762 [15:23] <[ALT]Blade> it crashes
#1763 [15:24] <Dalkonzar> yeah I tried again
#1764 [15:24] <Dalkonzar> even tried putting a space after the =
#1765 [15:24] <Dalkonzar> no matter what I do it still regens the old file
#1766 [15:24] <ZLolie> lwjgl.jar sat at 0% with txt pack then blinked and went to black screen, removed txt pack lwjgl.jar during update went to 1% sat there then got = Fatal error occured (4): Connection reset Retrieving:lwijgl.jar 1% and just stalls there.
#1767 [15:25] <[ALT]Blade> zlolie
#1768 [15:25] <AureliusM> Dalkonzar: Nope, even Indivisible Anarchy works for me. How are you editing the file server.properties
#1769 [15:25] <elias> still no luck
#1770 [15:25] <Dalkonzar> with notepad
#1771 [15:25] <[ALT]Blade> maybe delete the mc folder
#1772 [15:25] <[ALT]Blade> or press the force update button
#1773 [15:25] <Dalkonzar> although I tried notepad++ earlier
#1774 [15:25] <t3hkid> Still loads of people Downloading new minecraft
#1775 [15:26] <AureliusM> Dalkonzar: Hmm, I use emacs, mainly because it does what I want. How are you renaming the world folder?
#1776 [15:26] <Dalkonzar> from Indivisible Anarchy to IA
#1777 [15:26] <AureliusM> elias: Ok, we'll try a batch command to find the error log
#1778 [15:26] <ZLolie> I was working with others here and was simply reporting on my progress
#1779 [15:26] <AureliusM> elias: see http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#1780 [15:27] <[ALT]Blade> anyone did hear my question?
#1781 [15:27] <Dalkonzar> aww it does work fine on a normal server
#1782 [15:27] <AureliusM> [ALT]Blade: I'm seeing it now, can you find the error log?
#1783 [15:27] <Dalkonzar> it has something to do with mines a bukkit I guess
#1784 [15:28] <[ALT]Blade> sure
#1785 [15:28] <[ALT]Blade> ill send it on that pastebin thingy
#1786 [15:28] <AureliusM> Dalkonzar: I was wondering the space might be escaped in a different way, but I forgot to ask if you use Windows?
#1787 [15:28] <AureliusM> Dalkonzar: I guess yes, because of Note Pad++
#1788 [15:29] <Dalkonzar> well I tried both notepad and notepad++ it was originally done in note pad
#1789 [15:29] <[ALT]Blade> http://pastebin.com/LF4dkvT4
#1790 [15:29] <Dalkonzar> and yes windows 7
#1791 [15:29] <ZLolie> Just dont get it... even if I choose "do not update" it shows screen = "Updating Minecraft, Done loading" and then just sits there
#1792 [15:30] <AureliusM> Dalkonzar: Try use command prompt to cd to the server folder and look at the folder name
#1793 [15:30] <ZLolie> have deleted all in folder minus saves and still same
#1794 [15:30] <elias> ive made a batch fil already not the same way but i made a working one.
#1795 [15:30] <Dalkonzar> to cd?
#1796 [15:30] <Dalkonzar> and you mean command prompt like starting the server?
#1797 [15:31] <[ALT]Blade> with cmd
#1798 [15:31] <AureliusM> [ALT]Blade: You're using Java 7, could you uninstall it and install Java 6 ?
#1799 [15:31] <[ALT]Blade> i tried that allreadyt
#1800 [15:31] <[ALT]Blade> many times
#1801 [15:31] <[ALT]Blade> well, ill just do it again
#1802 [15:31] <AureliusM> [ALT]Blade: please put all thoughts on one line, use commas and full stops.
#1803 [15:32] <elias> so wut now/
#1804 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> [ALT]Blade: Java 1.7 is _known_ to have compatibility problems with Minecraft.
#1805 [15:32] <[ALT]Blade> mmm
#1806 [15:32] <Dalkonzar> aurelisuM what does cd mean and do you mean command prompt like starting up the server?
#1807 [15:32] <AureliusM> elias: In your batch file make sure there's a pause at the end, also could you pastebin me your batch file? Or make sure it has same options as GreyVulpine's batch ?
#1808 [15:33] <elias> how do i paste bin it
#1809 [15:33] <ZLolie> Is there an update from Java 1.7
#1810 [15:33] <[ALT]Blade> Sorry, i was in a little rush =/.
#1811 [15:34] <AureliusM> ZLolie: Um, Java 7 we do not reccommend. Use Java 6. 1.6 is Java 6.
#1812 [15:34] <AureliusM> [ALT]Blade: We get too many problems with Java 7. You need to uninstall ALL Java and reinstall Java 6.
#1813 [15:34] <ZLolie> ok ty
#1814 [15:35] <[ALT]Blade> Done, i'll start mc now.
#1815 [15:35] <AureliusM> elias: goto pastebin.com and click in the white area and paste a copy of the contents of your batch file there.
#1816 [15:35] <Dalkonzar> :O?
#1817 [15:35] <AureliusM> ??> elias pastebin
#1818 [15:35] <VoxelHead> elias: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1821 [15:36] <Magician> Quick question, for multiplayer servers, with the new update, what do the new server.properties thingys do?
#1822 [15:36] <[ALT]Blade> @AureliusM: http://pastebin.com/dgMTt8JU
#1823 [15:37] <Magician> ex. spawn-structures, level-type
#1824 [15:37] <AureliusM> Dalkonzar: oops, sorry, cd is change directory in DOS-speak. Try this: click Start type cmd and press Enter. A black command window should open. then wait for me to think a bit!
#1825 [15:37] <Dalkonzar> can anyone tell me what cd means in relation to Try use command prompt to cd to the server folder and look at the folder name
#1826 [15:37] <elias> this is the link to my pastebin http://pastebin.com/PRwkvTXN
#1827 [15:37] <Dalkonzar> k
#1828 [15:37] <t3hkid> just annoyed that i been waiting ages fro minecraft and i no get it
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#1830 [15:38] <Magician> Anyone? :D
#1831 [15:38] <ZLolie> Is it weird the PC had both the 6 and 7 installed does Java not replace it's updated programs?
#1832 [15:38] <Dalkonzar> im not rly good with dos how do I change it using that
#1833 [15:38] <AureliusM> Dalkonzar: I'm thing to use cmd to look at the server folder and list the full details of the world folder. "cd" is the command line equivalent of opening a folder.
#1834 [15:38] <AureliusM> Dalkonzar: *I'm thinking*
#1835 [15:39] <[ALT]Blade> lol
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#1837 [15:39] <sage1331> hi its sage1331 i need help
#1838 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> sage1331: Please state the nature of the Minecraft emergency.
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#1840 [15:40] <sage1331> my server is hamachi andfor some reason its telling me bad login
#1841 [15:41] <[ALT]Blade> Aure: I have heard more people got the same problem as i stated, it seems to be minecraft codes, i got a Toshiba laptop.
#1842 [15:41] <AureliusM> Dalkonzar: Ok, maybe it is bukkit that has problems with world names with spaces, in. I suggest cmd as a way to get the full details. Maybe try the #bukkit channel. Or try a vanilla server and see if the problem is still there?
#1843 [15:41] <AureliusM> [ALT]Blade: A C660 ?
#1844 [15:41] <Dalkonzar> the problem isnt there on a vanilla server I tested it
#1845 [15:41] <elias> aureliasM?
#1846 [15:41] <Dalkonzar> and its not a matter of 2 name files not working the 2 name is the current one
#1847 [15:42] <Dalkonzar> that I want to change
#1848 [15:42] <[ALT]Blade> uhhh
#1849 [15:42] <AureliusM> Dalkonzar: Then you need to /join #bukkit and ask there, this is for umnodded clients and servers generally
#1850 [15:42] <[ALT]Blade> let me look
#1851 [15:42] <sage1331> my server is hamachi and for some reason its telling me bad login
#1852 [15:42] <Dalkonzar> oh ok didnt know that
#1853 [15:42] <ZLolie> OMG AureliusM it was the Java 7 .... wow and wow... thx for your help.... :)
#1854 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> sage1331 - Did you pay for a minecraft account?
#1855 [15:43] <[ALT]Blade> Intek Pentium P6100
#1856 [15:43] <sage1331> yes
#1857 [15:43] <[ALT]Blade> Intel*
#1858 [15:43] <AureliusM> ZLolie: Yes, I've heard that's what happens. That's why we ask users to unsinatall it all. Then install Java 6. Even then there's sometimes a problem and we need to use another tool.
#1859 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> sage1331 - Try a force update of your client
#1860 [15:44] <elias> aureliusM?
#1861 [15:44] <AureliusM> elias: sorry I've lost where I was, looking at your pastebin now
#1862 [15:44] <ZLolie> Well thank you it seems to work now, but will be sure to come back here if problem continues
#1863 [15:44] <elias> thanks
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#1865 [15:44] <AureliusM> elias: ok, to the end of that batch file just add a second line with the single word: pause
#1866 [15:45] <elias> ok hold on
#1867 [15:45] <ZLolie> This console is new to me so will also try to explore it a bit more at later time... but has been very helpful... Peace and Out :D
#1868 [15:45] <sage1331> i have had onefor 2 years and a server for 8 monthes but yesterday i got a bukkit server and now its out dated so i got the old one back and now it says bad login
#1869 [15:46] <AureliusM> elias: How much RAM do you have?
#1870 [15:46] <AureliusM> elias: How much RAM do you have?
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#1872 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> sage1331 - Bad login means your login token from your client is bad. Try relogging into minecraft with your client. if that doesn't work, do a Force update.
#1873 [15:47] <sage1331> ok
#1874 [15:47] <sage1331> brb
#1875 [15:47] <[ALT]Blade> @ AureliusM, i have got an Intel(R) Pentium(R) P6100 x2
#1876 [15:47] <AureliusM> elias: Your batch file reserves quite a lot of Java heap space, I suggest changing the numbers to: -Xmx256m -Xms256m
#1877 [15:47] <elias> added the pasue now what
#1878 [15:47] <elias> ok holdon
#1879 [15:47] <AureliusM> elias: pause <--
#1880 [15:48] <AureliusM> elias: And could you do a dxdiag for us? Instructions follow:
#1881 [15:48] <sage1331> thanks it worked
#1882 [15:48] <AureliusM> ?? dxdiag
#1883 [15:48] <AureliusM> ?? win/dxdiag
#1884 [15:48] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1885 [15:48] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1886 [15:49] <elias> im doing it now holdon
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#1888 [15:49] <elias> dxdiag is open
#1889 [15:49] <elias> heap size is 256
#1890 [15:49] <Magician> What do the new server.properties variables do?
#1891 [15:50] <elias> u want dxdiag stats?
#1892 [15:50] <AureliusM> [ALT]Blade: Can you do a dxdiag as well? We need precise details of teh CPU and GPU.
#1893 [15:50] <[ALT]Blade> k
#1894 [15:51] <AureliusM> elias: In the DxDiagnostics did you get past the Save All Information stage?
#1895 [15:51] <AureliusM> ??> elias win/dxdiag
#1896 [15:51] <VoxelHead> elias: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1897 [15:51] <VoxelHead> elias: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1898 [15:51] <elias> ok
#1899 [15:52] <[ALT]Blade> http://pastebin.com/kW68wamN
#1900 [15:52] <AureliusM> elias: Ok, I guess you have opened the dxdiag.txt file? So you need to copy and paste the contents into pastebin.com
#1901 [15:53] <SockMonkey> Does anyone know if the Mojang accounts are working properly for having two Minecraft accounts under the same email address? I don't want to convert them both and lose access to one because of the different Minecraft.net login scheme.
#1902 [15:53] <AureliusM> [ALT]Blade: Thanks, you have a Satellite C660 . there is a known problem thee and a fix, standby
#1903 [15:53] <[ALT]Blade> okay! good :D
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#1905 [15:54] <elias> http://pastebin.com/GsbZeUd8 this is for the dxdiag
#1906 [15:54] <AureliusM> ??> [ALT]Blade c660
#1907 [15:54] <VoxelHead> [ALT]Blade: (c660) The Toshiba C660 laptop has known issues with its GPU drivers. Please follow the directions here: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
#1908 [15:55] <Caobie> Ive got an issue with launching the game. When i bring up the launcher it give me a string of code and invalid argument is towards the end. this prevents me from logging in. What can be done?
#1909 [15:56] <xales> Caobie: Reinstall Java, version 6
#1910 [15:56] <Caobie> ok ty ill try it now
#1911 [15:56] <AureliusM> elias: Ok, you have a Compaq Presario 061 with a VIA/S3G UniChrome IGP abd only 960 MB or RAM. This laptop may have great difficulties running minecraft.
#1912 [15:56] <elias> i dont have a laptop. i have a desktop
#1913 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> More like, no chance of running minecraft on that UniChrome chipset
#1914 [15:58] <AureliusM> elias: GreyVulpine is probably right. Although it worked for Beta 1.7.
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#1916 [15:58] <elias> ya thats y im confused. and its a desktop
#1917 [15:59] <AureliusM> elias: sorry, you're right it's a desktop.
#1918 [15:59] <elias> ya but what would change between 1.7 and 1.8
#1919 [15:59] <bman> Can someone tell me where I can find the 1.1 version of minecraft_server.jar the link on the downloads page @ minecraft.net is still 1.0.1
#1920 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Remember that 1.8 as well as 1.0.0 did some graphical improvements as well, rendering many old/legacy chipsets from not running minecraft at all
#1921 [15:59] <AureliusM> elias: 1.8 used more advanced OpenGL features
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#1923 [16:00] <PawButtox> Hai There
#1924 [16:00] <PawButtox> I'm back again :D
#1925 [16:00] <elias> but i have opengl off
#1926 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> elias - You can't turn off OpenGL. Minecraft runs entirely off of OpenGL
#1927 [16:01] <elias> well the setting "advanced opengl" is off
#1928 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> That's not what AureliusM means by "More advanced OpenGL features"
#1929 [16:02] <AureliusM> elias: Setting it to off will not help. Unofficially you could try the McNostalgia mod and revert back to 1.7.
#1930 [16:02] <Caobie> problem solve thanks a bunch guys
#1931 [16:02] <Caobie> problem solve thanks a bunch guys
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#1933 [16:03] <PawButtox> Herro, i need help again :D
#1934 [16:03] <elias> could you send me a link tio get that mod
#1935 [16:03] <[ALT]Blade> @ Aure, im going to restart my laptop now, hope it works
#1936 [16:04] * mib_jyu4q2 [mib_jyu4q2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1937 [16:04] <AureliusM> elias: please google McNostalgia and look for the minecraftforum.net thread
#1938 [16:04] <mib_jyu4q2> Hi
#1939 [16:05] <PawButtox> AureliusM, it's time for Problem No. 2
#1940 [16:05] <Tiny> hi guys
#1941 [16:05] <elias> ok thank you guys for all your help
#1942 [16:05] <Tiny> i have a problem
#1943 [16:05] <Tiny> my minecraft updated automaticly to 1.1
#1944 [16:05] <elias> i really apreciate it
#1945 [16:05] <PawButtox> And it crashed
#1946 [16:05] <PawButtox> I had the same Problem
#1947 [16:05] <Tiny> and now i cant play on my favorite minecraft server
#1948 [16:06] <PawButtox> Oh, mine crashed
#1949 [16:06] <PawButtox> :L
#1950 [16:06] <Tiny> because its still running 1.0
#1951 [16:06] <Tiny> it says outdated server
#1952 [16:06] <AureliusM> elias: no problem, sorry that that graphics chip isn't up to it. Maybe look at finding an old nvidia card for that dekstop?
#1953 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Tiny - Then go yell at your server admin to update
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#1955 [16:06] <Tiny> i dont have contact with him
#1956 [16:06] <Tiny> and dont know how
#1957 [16:06] <Tiny> can i degrade my minecraft somehow?
#1958 [16:06] <PawButtox> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/284331-tool-mc-downgrader-the-time-machine-for-minecraft/
#1959 [16:07] <PawButtox> Yes by using that Tiny
#1960 [16:07] <Tiny> thanks pawbuttox, ill try it
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#1963 [16:10] <fenster> My game lags a lot, I have all the updates and it still lags like crazy
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#1965 [16:10] <[ALT]Blade> @aure, Thank you very much! it works!
#1966 [16:11] <Tiny> Paw, the downloadlink for that tool is dead..
#1967 [16:11] <fenster> What can I do to stop the laging on my Game?
#1968 [16:11] <AureliusM> [ALT]Blade: Thank GreyVulpine and the regulars, it took a bit of work to get that fix
#1969 [16:12] <Tiny> nevermind
#1970 [16:12] <Tiny> it works now
#1971 [16:12] <PawButtox> Can i get help yet?
#1972 [16:13] <Tiny> fenster, go to taskmanager and set priority of java to high
#1973 [16:13] <Tiny> fenster, go to taskmanager and set priority of java to high
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#1975 [16:14] <Tiny> oh xD
#1976 [16:14] <Tiny> btw pawbuttox i got to the forum after soo many ads
#1977 [16:14] <Tiny> the real downloadlink is dead
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#1981 [16:17] <Roland> I need some help, I've owned Minecraft since early beta, but now it's telling me that I don't own it anymore... what should I do? (i've looked all over the website and have found nothing)
#1982 [16:17] <Ketsueki> ??> Roland accounts
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#1984 [16:17] <VoxelHead> Roland: (accounts) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#1985 [16:17] <PawButtox> Oi
#1986 [16:17] <PawButtox> I was here first
#1987 [16:17] <PawButtox> :L
#1988 [16:18] <Roland> Thanks for the link
#1989 [16:18] <Roland> Thanks for the link
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#1991 [16:20] <AureliusM> PawButtox: Could you remind us what your problem was?
#1992 [16:20] <PawButtox> I updated to 1.1 and remember what happened 2 days, ago where it only loads bin and lastlogin
#1993 [16:20] <PawButtox> Same thing is happened
#1994 [16:21] <AureliusM> PawButtox: did it black screen? Or hang without crashing? My memory got flushed.
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#1996 [16:21] <PawButtox> Black Screen then the Crash Message
#1997 [16:22] <AureliusM> PawButtox: link to the pastebin with the error if any?
#1998 [16:22] <PawButtox> If i can find it 2 secs
#1999 [16:22] <PawButtox> http://pastebin.com/7mUZh3cU
#2000 [16:23] <PawButtox> Same problem
#2001 [16:23] * AureliusM trawls through th eIRC chat logs from http://kealper.com/irclogs/index.a3w?date=2012-01-10
#2001 [16:24] <AureliusM> PawButtox: ok, that shows LWJGLException: Could not create context
#2002 [16:24] <PawButtox> Ya
#2003 [16:24] <PawButtox> Confuzzled
#2004 [16:24] <Kealper> i should figure out why that irclogs site skips QUIT messages
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#2006 [16:25] <elias> what is the mod to downgrade to 1.7?
#2007 [16:25] <AureliusM> PawButtox: and you deleted all the folders except saves in %APPDATA%/.minecraft ?
#2008 [16:25] <PawButtox> Deleted .minecraft completely
#2009 [16:25] <Ketsueki> elias: MCNostalga
#2010 [16:26] <elias> thank you
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#2012 [16:26] <AureliusM> elias: google McNostalgia and in the minecraftforum.net thread there is al ink to McNostalgia 2.0 I think, and it was just updated for 1.1 users a couple of hours ago
#2013 [16:26] <miharuu> hello
#2014 [16:27] <AureliusM> PawButtox: and did we get a dxdiag for the CPU and GPU details?
#2015 [16:27] <PawButtox> Yes
#2016 [16:27] <PawButtox> You told me to update drivers last time
#2017 [16:27] <miharuu> im haveing a probley updateing my minecraft
#2018 [16:27] <miharuu> problem*
#2019 [16:28] <AureliusM> PawButtox: what IRC nick did you have so I can search the logs ?
#2020 [16:28] <PawButtox> IRC?
#2021 [16:28] <Morrolan> Just search for his hostmask, should lead you to his join-message. :)
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#2023 [16:28] <Morrolan> IRC is the thing you are using to chat right now.
#2024 [16:28] <Morrolan> IRC is the thing you are using to chat right now.
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#2026 [16:28] <PawButtox> PawButtox
#2027 [16:28] <PawButtox> :L
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#2029 [16:29] <merunes> hope that was right.....uhm hello
#2030 [16:29] <Morrolan> hey merunes
#2031 [16:29] <merunes> have a problem with instaling the mod loader.
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#2033 [16:30] <|Kiikun|> ?? mods
#2034 [16:30] <PawButtox> Don't think it's been updated merunes
#2035 [16:30] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2036 [16:30] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#2037 [16:30] <Morrolan> Ah, we don't provide mod-support here. It'd be best if you contact the creator of that mod, for example through its forum thread. :)
#2038 [16:30] <AureliusM> PawButtox: but you might as well do another dxdiag: (and I can't find the join message)
#2039 [16:30] <PawButtox> Ok
#2040 [16:30] <AureliusM> ??> PawButtox win/dxdiag
#2041 [16:30] <VoxelHead> PawButtox: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2042 [16:30] <VoxelHead> PawButtox: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2043 [16:30] <Morrolan> And yea, what PawButtox is most likely the cause, it might not have been updated yet.
#2044 [16:30] <miharuu> did any one else have a problem updating minecraft today and know how to fix it ?
#2045 [16:31] <Matt_> I was wondering where I can find a download for version 1.0.0? I downloaded 1.1 without thinking about how the plugins for our SMP won't be updated for a while.
#2046 [16:31] <AureliusM> Morrolan, you mean the driver update, or the minecraft ?
#2047 [16:31] <Morrolan> Uh, neither. Modloader I meant.
#2048 [16:31] <PawButtox> http://pastebin.com/0CrkJQ8f Merry Christmas
#2049 [16:31] <Morrolan> Oh, I see, I was missing a verb.
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#2051 [16:31] <Morrolan> "And yea, what PawButtox _said_ ..." it should have been, sorry.
#2052 [16:32] * AureliusM has found PawButtox in the logs
#2052 [16:32] <merunes> okay uh thask then :)
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#2054 [16:33] <swinting> can someone please help me i'm trying to load minecraft and i get a black screen
#2055 [16:33] <Matt_> Where can I find a download for 1.0's .jar?
#2056 [16:33] <miharuu> dose any one know how ot fix minecraft were it wont update it moves to downloading update and stops i left it for 2 hours and never moved and if i say later it wont load up at all jsut atops a near the ned and dose nothing can someo ne plz help me
#2057 [16:34] <AureliusM> PawButtox: thanks, Graphics is Intel(R) G41 Express, and Driver Version: 8.15.10.2555 and Driver Date/Size: 10/13/2011 .
#2058 [16:34] <Ketsueki> Matt_: you can't. Maybe MCNostalga will help
#2059 [16:34] <PawButtox> Thats what i downloaded last time..
#2060 [16:34] <Matt_> I just want the old version so I can get back on the SMP.
#2061 [16:35] <Matt_> The whole download would do, if not just the .jar.
#2062 [16:35] <PawButtox> IRC: 1
#2063 [16:35] <PawButtox> Urrr
#2064 [16:35] <PawButtox> My Bad :L
#2065 [16:35] * AureliusM is still reading the PawButtox saga in the logs
#2065 [16:36] <Ketsueki> Matt_: Unfortunately Copyright prevents anyone from legitimately sharing their /backup/ of that file with you. You -really- should keep backups of your own. For the moment...
#2066 [16:36] <Ketsueki> Matt_: 20120112-13:26:25 < AureliusM> elias: google McNostalgia and in the minecraftforum.net thread there is al ink to McNostalgia 2.0 I think, and it was just updated for 1.1 users a couple of hours ago
#2067 [16:36] <Matt_> Yeah, I can see that now :l
#2068 [16:37] <swinting> can someone help me anytime soon
#2069 [16:38] <miharuu> im jsut w8ing tell some one is free to help me
#2070 [16:38] <Matt_> Will I be able to connect to the multiplayer servers with McNostalgia?
#2071 [16:38] <AureliusM> PawButtox: Hmm 2 dayas ago: #539 [15:50] <PawButtox> Ok i installed the Drivers, and then you reported that worked, was there a second machine with a problem ?
#2072 [16:39] <swinting> can someone please help me i'm trying to load minecraft and i get a black screen
#2073 [16:39] <PawButtox> Nope
#2074 [16:39] <PawButtox> Only this computer
#2075 [16:39] <Matt_> You probably have non compatible mods.
#2076 [16:40] <AureliusM> PawButtox: the last Help I see is GreyVulpine telling you to install http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20601&ProdId=3048&lang=eng after which you reported it worked
#2077 [16:40] <swinting> no Matt_ it worked for a while i clsoe out re-open it and i get a black screen can't even get to the main menu i just go the game and get a black screen
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#2080 [16:41] <PawButtox> Yes and the same Problem has occured, should i install them again?
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#2082 [16:41] <Ketsueki> swinting: First thing to try... well actually have you upgraded to 1.1 yet? (if not don't x.x)
#2083 [16:42] <swinting> i have i did the update
#2084 [16:42] <mib_ti91oh> Why do I keep getting 'outdated server' when I try to connect?
#2085 [16:42] <PawButtox> Cause the server is 1.0
#2086 [16:42] <PawButtox> Derp
#2087 [16:42] <Ketsueki> swinting: was it working before 1.1 and then you updated and now it's not?
#2088 [16:42] <AureliusM> PawButtox: that driver *looks* like the right one for your machine. The readme includes your G41 chipset: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20601/eng/installation_readme_64.txt
#2089 [16:43] <PawButtox> Thats the same one i downloaded lasttime
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#2091 [16:43] <swinting> it worked before, i do the update works for abotu an hour, close out because internet stopped repsonding opened it back up and now i get a black screen
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#2093 [16:43] <Ben> yes, it worked before the update
#2094 [16:43] <PawButtox> Just wondering why it happened again
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#2096 [16:43] <Ketsueki> swinting: ok, try rebooting your computer (the internet not responding is just weird... but maybe you need a reboot to update something)
#2097 [16:43] <swinting> ok
#2098 [16:43] <AureliusM> PawButtox: but the dxdiag shows that same driver version.
#2099 [16:44] <flash1133> my 1.0.1 bukkit server isnt working, and i have 1.1 client
#2100 [16:44] <swinting> let me try that
#2101 [16:44] <Ketsueki> flash1133: duh, client and server don't match.
#2102 [16:44] <PawButtox> I give up, i'll just wait for my new como
#2103 [16:44] <PawButtox> comp*
#2104 [16:44] <Em_Dash> Hello everyone, I am having a big problem, I can't even play minecraft anymore because it won't download the new update with the languages!
#2105 [16:44] <Em_Dash> Please help me
#2106 [16:44] <WugBot> Em_Dash: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#2107 [16:44] <mib_ndy289> Purchased the game and downloaded yesterday, today I can't even find where to start game, not on my computer anywhere? Minecraft
#2108 [16:44] <AureliusM> PawButtox: Ok, I'm guessing it's not driver then. Might be Java, or something blocking access.
#2109 [16:44] <flash1133> yeah, but where do i get 1.1?
#2110 [16:44] <Kealper> !client
#2111 [16:44] <mib_ndy289> Mind Craft, oops
#2112 [16:44] <Guest53981> How do I get back into that server? Can I "unupdate" Minecraft?
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#2114 [16:45] <Kealper> mib_ndy289: it's Minecraft, not Mind Craft
#2115 [16:45] <Kealper> Guest53981: unfortunately not
#2116 [16:45] <Ketsueki> flash1133: there probably isn't a 1.1 yet; You're hosed. Why'd you update the client if your server wasn't yet up to date?
#2117 [16:45] <Kealper> Guest53981: you'll have to wait until that server updates to 1.1
#2118 [16:45] <flash1133> ok nevermind. thanks for your help ill just back date
#2119 [16:45] <AureliusM> PawButtox: Or, the graohics driver control panel has settings to switch off advanced graphics for certain programs? I'm guessing now.
#2120 [16:46] <Guest53981> okay... makes sense thanks
#2121 [16:46] <Ketsueki> Kealper: could we add MCNostalga to one of the bots as a link please?
#2122 [16:46] <Em_Dash> Ketsueki
#2123 [16:46] <Em_Dash> Ketsueki
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#2125 [16:46] <Kealper> Ketsueki: ehh.... that's in a bit of a grey area as far as legality goes
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#2127 [16:47] <Em_Dash> Is anyone going to even respond to me at all?
#2128 [16:47] <AureliusM> PawButtox: what kind of PC is it? laptop?
#2129 [16:47] <Kealper> Em_Dash: what is happening when you try to update it?
#2130 [16:47] <Ketsueki> Kealper: Linking to information should never be a grey area; that's a clear white area, discussing facts. USING said information... well be very clear in how it's worded.
#2131 [16:47] <Em_Dash> It says downloading packages, and for hours it just stays there
#2132 [16:48] <Ketsueki> Em_Dash: at the login screen, click the button above login; select force update, try again.
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#2134 [16:48] <Em_Dash> Tried that
#2135 [16:48] <Em_Dash> Even tried removing the appdata .minecraft folder
#2136 [16:49] <Ketsueki> Em_Dash: OS?
#2137 [16:49] <Ketsueki> ... Ok, I have no idea why it isn't working for you then.
#2138 [16:49] <Em_Dash> Windows 7
#2139 [16:49] <Em_Dash> 64 bit
#2140 [16:49] <Ketsueki> Sorry, I can't be of any furhter help.
#2141 [16:49] <Em_Dash> Great
#2142 [16:49] <Em_Dash> Thanks for nothing, see yah
#2143 [16:49] <Ketsueki> Em_Dash: I'm saying ....
#2144 [16:49] <Ketsueki> I
#2145 [16:50] <Kealper> Ketsueki: if you want to have it added, ask Wug or DopeGhoti to add it to either WugBot or Vox, respectively
#2146 [16:50] <Kealper> he should not be so impatient.... i probably could have helped him fix the problem...
#2147 [16:50] <Kealper> oh well, his loss
#2148 [16:50] <mathieu> Hello,we paid by credit card the amounto 26,95$ to buy the game, received a confirmation from Mojang noreply@mojang.com which tells that to finish the registration we need to go on minecraft, but when we go there we have no game , no way to download it and to play!!! what should we do? thanks
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#2151 [16:51] <Kealper> !client
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#2153 [16:51] <peachfuzz> minecraft wont load for me
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#2155 [16:51] <Kealper> mathieu: download the link that corrosponds to your operating system in the above message
#2156 [16:51] <Kealper> peachfuzz: could you elaborate?
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#2158 [16:53] <shadowbaku> hey does anyone know y this server i was on keeps saying outdated even though i just played on it yesterday
#2159 [16:53] <peachfuzz> I press play on browser and it goes to a white screen twice then says we were unable to return you to minecraft.net
#2160 [16:53] <Kealper> peachfuzz: To run the game like the browser does, try the instructions in this URL: http://pastebin.com/u9K9WD3a
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#2162 [16:54] <shadowbaku> kealper
#2163 [16:54] <Kealper> shadowbaku: there was a new update and that server you play on must still be using the older version
#2164 [16:54] <shadowbaku> so wat ur saying is wen they update it i will be able to go back on
#2165 [16:54] <Kealper> yes
#2166 [16:55] <shadowbaku> ok that helps i just wish i was able to get back on there to tell them to do that
#2167 [16:55] <peachfuzz> it wont let me open the download page
#2168 [16:55] <shadowbaku> is there anyway to reset the update back to 1.0.0
#2169 [16:56] <Kealper> peachfuzz: what does it say when you go to this page? http://www.minecraft.net/download
#2170 [16:56] <Kealper> shadowbaku: not really... there is MCNostalgia but you'll need to google that and find out about that for yourself
#2171 [16:56] <mathieu> thank you for mathieu we tried the link but could'nt login today....
#2172 [16:56] <peachfuzz> it will let me download it
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#2174 [16:57] <Kealper> mathieu: what did it tell you when you tried to log in?
#2175 [16:58] <mr_sticky> why does my mine craft says this saving chunks then says there is not enough memory
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#2177 [16:58] <lucas> hello?
#2178 [16:58] <mathieu> it said: login failed
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#2180 [16:58] <Kealper> mr_sticky: do you have any mods installed?
#2181 [16:58] <lucas> hello?
#2182 [16:58] <Kealper> mathieu: hmm...
#2183 [16:58] <Sibbles> Is the server still busy? Because i still get the done loading error.
#2184 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> login failed means bad username/password
#2185 [16:58] <lucas> i deleted .minecraft
#2186 [16:58] <lucas> does anyone know how to get it back?
#2187 [16:59] <Kealper> oh, doesn't it say bad username/password or something when you get something like that wrong?
#2188 [16:59] <peachfuzz> i recently got a new laptop and my maps arent showing up
#2189 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - Nope. Login Failed is Bad username/password on the launcher
#2190 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> lucas - By logging into the launcher again.
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#2193 [16:59] <lucas> i get a black screen
#2194 [16:59] <Kealper> peachfuzz: maps are stored in your computer, so you'll need to grab your maps off the other computer
#2195 [17:00] <peachfuzz> how do i do that?
#2196 [17:00] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: oh, i guess i thought it did at one point O.o
#2197 [17:00] <mr_sticky> kealper can ya help me plz
#2198 [17:00] <Sibbles> I need help i load minecraft and it gets to done loading and freezes.
#2199 [17:00] <Kealper> peachfuzz: do you know where your .minecraft folder is?
#2200 [17:00] <peachfuzz> on what computer?
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#2202 [17:00] <Kealper> mr_sticky: do you have any mods installed?
#2203 [17:00] <Kealper> peachfuzz: either, the folder will be in the same place on both computers
#2204 [17:00] <peachfuzz> the one i am using now or the old computer that i used to play minecraft on?
#2205 [17:01] <Sibbles> Hello??/
#2206 [17:01] <Brian228> Hey, been trying to download a .jar for my mac for 2 hours now, no .jars want to open. I updated my thing to 1.0.1, now I want to downgrade, therefore I deleted it and now no minecraft.jar/.app wants to work. Also deleted the /applications support minecraft folder. Help please?
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#2208 [17:01] <mr_sticky> no i just started minecraft
#2209 [17:01] <Kealper> peachfuzz: but you will need to go in to that folder on your old computer and grab the "Saves" folder from there, then move it in to the .minecraft folder on your new computer. after that, all your worlds will work again
#2210 [17:01] <Kealper> mr_sticky: is your computer old or pretty new?
#2211 [17:01] <peachfuzz> ok
#2212 [17:01] <lucas> hello nobody wanna help me out?
#2213 [17:02] <Brian228> Well my computer is a mac, and its 2011
#2214 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Brian228 - By deleting the minecraft folder, you'll only be able get the latest 1.1 update on download.
#2215 [17:02] <mr_sticky> kealper i ve just started minecraft but when i play offline it says not enough memory for minecraft
#2216 [17:02] <Brian228> Grey, even 1.1 update doesn't work bro
#2217 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Brian228 - Define, "Doesn't work"
#2218 [17:02] <Brian228> no minecraft files want to work
#2219 [17:02] <Brian228> sec
#2220 [17:03] <Kealper> mr_sticky: is your computer kind of old or kind of new?
#2221 [17:03] <Brian228> https://aluminas.net/v?ID=66d4b2 grey
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#2223 [17:03] <Bruce> Hi I want to purchase minecraft but I'm not sure if it'll work with my gfx card, a mobile intel 945gm express, google brings up some troublesome looking forum posts with minecraft failing to launch but they're all older posts, does anyone know if this bug is fixed or if minecraft is compatible with my gfx card?
#2224 [17:03] <peachfuzz> my old computer stopped working and i cant even get on it, is there anyother way to get the maps back?
#2225 [17:03] <mr_sticky> kealper xp xD
#2226 [17:03] <Sibbles> I need help please.
#2227 [17:03] <Kealper> peachfuzz: unfortunately not
#2228 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Bruce - It is compatible, albeit you won't be playing it with a decent FPS
#2229 [17:03] <peachfuzz> ok
#2230 [17:04] <Kealper> ??> mr_sticky win/dxdiag
#2231 [17:04] <Brian228> Grey, the screenshot-link
#2232 [17:04] <VoxelHead> mr_sticky: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2233 [17:04] <VoxelHead> mr_sticky: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2234 [17:04] <Kealper> mr_sticky: follow what VoxelHead just told you please
#2235 [17:04] <Bruce> GreyVulpine: in classic i get around 30fps i presume it'll be worse than that
#2236 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Bruce - Much, yes
#2237 [17:04] <Sibbles> Please can i get some help with minecraft?
#2238 [17:04] <Brian228> Anyone? I get minecraft.jar cannot be launched error?
#2239 [17:05] <AureliusM> Sibbles: You get a freeze after done loading? Has Minecraft worked before on your machine?
#2240 [17:05] <Sibbles> Yes
#2241 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Brian228 - Could you launch mincraft.jar in the terminal and post a screenshot of the error?
#2242 [17:05] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Any mods or HD texture packs?
#2243 [17:05] <Sibbles> No
#2244 [17:05] <Sibbles> I deleted them
#2245 [17:05] <Bruce> GreyVulpine: Ok cool thank you.
#2246 [17:05] <Brian228> hey grey, do you know the command to launch the jar?
#2247 [17:05] <Brian228> ill google it lol
#2248 [17:05] <Sibbles> i deleted the whole .minecraft file
#2249 [17:05] <Sibbles> and minecraft
#2250 [17:05] <Sibbles> and java
#2251 [17:06] <Sibbles> I tried making a new windows account aswell.
#2252 [17:06] <Sibbles> But it sitll gives me the error.
#2253 [17:07] <AureliusM> Sibbles: ok, wait. please paste the error message into a pastebin
#2254 [17:07] <AureliusM> ??> Sibbles pastebin
#2255 [17:07] <VoxelHead> Sibbles: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2256 [17:07] <Kealper> Brian228: java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2257 [17:07] <mr_sticky> kealper http://pastebin.com/aGTNER8S
#2258 [17:07] <Kealper> Brian228: caps matter on that last part
#2259 [17:08] <Kealper> mr_sticky: Try following the instructions in this URL: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#2260 [17:08] <Sibbles> What error message?
#2261 [17:08] <Brian228> Kealper, http://goo.gl/L16DL
#2262 [17:08] <Brian228> that's my error
#2263 [17:08] <Sibbles> All i see is Done loading
#2264 [17:08] <Sibbles> A bar that isnt ful
#2265 [17:09] <Sibbles> and a non-working minecraft
#2266 [17:09] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Please put all thoughts on one line.
#2267 [17:09] <Kealper> Brian228: are you trying to run the minecraft.jar inside the minecraft folder or the launcher one that you download from minecraft.net?
#2268 [17:09] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Are you using Windows?
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#2270 [17:09] <Sibbles> Yes
#2271 [17:09] <AureliusM> ?? Sibbles win/dxdiag
#2272 [17:09] <Sibbles> whats that?
#2273 [17:09] <AureliusM> ??> Sibbles win/dxdiag
#2274 [17:09] <VoxelHead> Sibbles: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2275 [17:09] <VoxelHead> Sibbles: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2276 [17:10] <Brian228> kealper Idk I just downloaded this file, it's a 1.0.0 version. I don't want a 1.0.1
#2277 [17:10] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Sorry, me getting the bot command wrong. Please follow VoxelHead's instructions.
#2278 [17:10] <Kealper> Brian228: ehh... did the original 1.0.0 work for you?
#2279 [17:10] <Sibbles> Ok i'm doing that now.
#2280 [17:11] <kingCole2nd> ow can un update
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#2282 [17:11] <AureliusM> Sibbles: If you have any problem at any step, please ask.
#2283 [17:11] <Brian228> Yes it did, then I updated it like a moron.....Then I deleted it with the minecraft.jar/minecraft folder in app support
#2284 [17:11] <mr_sticky> kealper it just says on the icon as minecraft.exe
#2285 [17:11] <kingCole2nd> i cant get on a server because it is outdated
#2286 [17:12] <Brian228> king because they're running 1.0.0
#2287 [17:12] <kingCole2nd> how?
#2288 [17:12] <Brian228> because their server isn't ungraded...
#2289 [17:12] <Brian228> you're running 1.0.1
#2290 [17:12] <Sibbles> http://pastebin.com/2VpPw2FA Thats what i Copy'N'Pasted
#2291 [17:12] <kingCole2nd> yea, but how do i get back to 1.0.0
#2292 [17:12] <Kealper> Brian228: odd... what happens when you try running 1.1.0?
#2293 [17:12] <Brian228> WELLL I deleted my shit and it screwed me over, now im here :p
#2294 [17:13] <mib_nh56yo> minecraft says that i cant get on cause drivers ar not updated ? how do i fix that
#2295 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_nh56yo - What operating system are you on?
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#2297 [17:13] <Kealper> mr_sticky: completely follow the instructions to the letter in that link i gave you
#2298 [17:13] <mib_nh56yo> ????????
#2299 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_nh56yo - Are you running windows? mac? Linux? AmigaOS?
#2300 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Or just leave
#2301 [17:14] <xales> hehe, Amiga
#2302 [17:14] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Ok, thanks, did you install Java 6 ?
#2303 [17:14] <Brian228> kealper it works
#2304 [17:14] <Sibbles> Yeah
#2305 [17:14] <Brian228> on 1.0.1 not 1.0.0 download :L
#2306 [17:14] <kingCole2nd> how do i un update?
#2307 [17:14] <Sibbles> J6 U30 64Bit
#2308 [17:14] <Brian228> idk king, wondering the same
#2309 [17:14] <pugmaster> I am having problems downloading minecraft to my computer. When I try to open the file after the download, I get a message "cannot create Java Virtual Machine". How can I fix this
#2310 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> kingCole2nd - If you kept a backup, you can switch back to that. otherwise, look up mcnostalgia
#2311 [17:14] <Kealper> Brian228: where did you aquire said 1.0.0 minecraft.jar? the file might not even work :|
#2312 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> It's against the Terms of Service to distribute older minecraft files
#2313 [17:15] <kingCole2nd> look at what
#2314 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Google for MCNostalgia
#2315 [17:15] <kingCole2nd> 1 min
#2316 [17:15] <Brian228> Kealper I downloaded from atleast 10 other sources, anyways grey I didn't know
#2317 [17:15] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Let's check. Click Start Control Panel, double click the Java icon, click the java tab and click the View button. It should list just that one Java 6 product, named 1.6.0_30
#2318 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> 10.. sources of what?
#2319 [17:15] <Brian228> 10 websites, none of the .jars work.
#2320 [17:15] <mr_sticky> kealper not valid on win32
#2321 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Brian228 - Did you try running the .jar in your terminal?
#2322 [17:16] <Kealper> Brian228: i'd recommend googling "MCNostolgia" then, it lets you revert current versions of Minecraft backwards
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#2324 [17:16] <Brian228> 1.0.1 works, 1.0.0 doesn't :L
#2325 [17:16] <Brian228> ok Kealper
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#2327 [17:16] <kingCole2nd> i googled it
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#2329 [17:16] <Sibbles> 1.6.0_30
#2330 [17:16] <jamietech> Hi, what's the maximum character limit for a Minecraft username
#2331 [17:16] <kingCole2nd> which one?
#2332 [17:17] <mib_nbneuo> Can you please tell me how i can Unupdate?
#2333 [17:17] <mr_sticky> kealper how do i change the file type to all files i cant see it
#2334 [17:17] <jamietech> I guess I came at a bad time O_O
#2335 [17:17] <Kealper> mr_sticky: follow this: http://www.granneman.com/techinfo/windows/showextensions/
#2336 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> jamietech - About 15-16 characters, letters, numbers and underscore only
#2337 [17:17] <Minecraftchick> Lol
#2338 [17:18] <jamietech> bye
#2339 [17:18] <jamietech> or do you not kb for nick impersonation
#2340 [17:18] <Kealper> Minecraftchick: change your name please, stealing someone else's name is frowned upon
#2341 [17:18] <Minecraftchick> Kealper were u responding to my question
#2342 [17:18] <jadebeauty3> When u said the link
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#2344 [17:18] <Kealper> jadebeauty3: was your name mr_sticky?
#2345 [17:18] <mr_sticky> kealper its not availible on win32 application
#2346 [17:19] <jadebeauty3> no
#2347 [17:19] <Kealper> hey xales
#2348 [17:19] <ZacTurner> hello
#2349 [17:19] <Kealper> fine, be like that and ignore me >:|
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#2351 [17:19] <ZacTurner> I bought the game a few months ago, and it just now says that i am not premium anymore
#2352 [17:19] <jadebeauty3> How do i un update?
#2353 [17:20] <Kealper> jadebeauty3: google "MCNostolgia"
#2354 [17:20] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Ok, that's good. Your minecraft freezes at the done laoding stage. And you tried a new Windows Profile, with same result? Have you tried minecraft.jar from a batch file ?
#2355 [17:20] <mr_sticky> java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame pause kealper i copy this into the file is it rite?
#2356 [17:20] <Sibbles> Yeah with the exact same result, No i have not tried a batch file, How do i do that?
#2357 [17:20] <Kealper> mr_sticky: yes, and did you save it as a ".bat" file?
#2358 [17:20] <jadebeauty3> kk
#2359 [17:20] <Ketsueki> Wug: or DopeGhoti should please add the correct link to MCNostalga so that we can correctly state something like. "We can't send you a minecraft.jar; you should keep better backups. The only known, possibly legitimate, way might be to use MCNostalga; which we won't help support your use of aside from pointing to the correct forum thread (link here) ."
#2360 [17:20] <mr_sticky> yep now i ran it and it this windows is coming up
#2361 [17:21] <mr_sticky> press any key to continue
#2362 [17:21] <ZacTurner> please help me? I bought the game a few months ago, and it just now says that i am not premium anymore
#2363 [17:21] <Kealper> mr_sticky: what does it say just above that "press any key to continue" line?
#2364 [17:21] <Ketsueki> ??> ZacTurner accounts
#2365 [17:21] <VoxelHead> ZacTurner: (accounts) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
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#2367 [17:21] <ZacTurner> I did that many times. they never respond to me.
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#2369 [17:22] <newbie> i just got minecraft and i want to know how to change my avatar dude
#2370 [17:22] <xales> hi Ketsueki
#2371 [17:22] <Ketsueki> ZacTurner: We can't help you; we're not part of mojang and have no way of resolving this issue.
#2372 [17:22] <ZacTurner> go to minecraft.net, and go to profile
#2373 [17:22] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Here are instructions to minecraft.jar : http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#2374 [17:22] <ZacTurner> and alrighty
#2375 [17:22] <Kealper> xales: name-tab fail
#2376 [17:22] <AureliusM> Sibbles: *instructions to run minecraft.jar*
#2377 [17:23] <newbie> i did but when i hit download reference skin it just takes me to a distorted image
#2378 [17:23] <mr_sticky> c:\documents and settings/tung/my docutments/downloads/mine/java -xmx256m -xms256
#2379 [17:24] <Kealper> mr_sticky: you could just take a screenshot of it
#2380 [17:24] <mr_sticky> cannot fine or load main class net.minecraft.launcher frame
#2381 [17:25] <Kealper> mr_sticky: it has to be spelled just like "net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" the capitals matter in that
#2382 [17:25] <xales> Kealper: yeah pretty much
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#2384 [17:25] <newbie> why does it send me to a weird distorted image of an avatar?
#2385 [17:26] <mr_sticky> yep its spelt exactly like dat
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#2387 [17:26] <Kealper> mr_sticky: and you are using the minecraft.jar file that you downloaded directly off the website?
#2388 [17:26] <Ketsueki> mr_sticky: either you copied it wrong, or you don't have java... did you leave the line numers in or something?
#2389 [17:26] <obi_wan> any reason minecraft just randomly freezes on me?
#2390 [17:26] <Sibbles> AureliusM I have done all that and i still get the same error.
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#2392 [17:26] <obi_wan> downloaded version
#2393 [17:26] <huddler> Hi can someone please tell me how to play minecraft without internet connection
#2394 [17:27] <Slicker> Hello is it possible to revert to last version of minecraft? friend updated and now cant join server =(
#2395 [17:27] <AureliusM> Sibbles: ok, so the run.bat command launches minecraft whih still freezes? And there are no messages in the black command window?
#2396 [17:27] <mr_sticky> yes
#2397 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Slicker - Google McNostalgia
#2398 [17:28] <Sibbles> There are messages, I'll tell them to you. But theres alot.
#2399 [17:28] <mr_sticky> but i pressed the download Download Minecraft.exe (270 KB). Place it anywhere you want, then run it.
#2400 [17:28] <AureliusM> Sibbles: wait
#2401 [17:28] <Sibbles> What?
#2402 [17:28] <Ketsueki> mr_sticky: it should look like... well not this http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=gDRbA6g2 but rather the .bat file should contain this: http://pastebin.com/cwdQ8p8m
#2403 [17:28] <AureliusM> ??> Sibbles pastebin
#2404 [17:28] <VoxelHead> Sibbles: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2405 [17:28] <obi_wan> anyone know why it freezes or how to fix it?
#2406 [17:28] <huddler> Like is there some way i can download something that i dont have to be online to play?
#2407 [17:28] <Sibbles> I can't copy on a batch file.
#2408 [17:29] <Sibbles> http://pastebin.com/GTgA3tDS ok there it is.
#2409 [17:29] <AureliusM> Sibbles: use pastebin if there is a lot of text. Do you know how to copy all the text from that command window?
#2410 [17:29] <huddler> njm
#2411 [17:29] <Slicker> thx will check it out
#2412 [17:29] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Ah, you're fast
#2413 [17:29] <Ketsueki> huddler: yes; you download the launcher for your OS; launch minecraft (logging in once); then you can play offline by launching, logging in (which will fail) and saying the correct thing to continue playing anyway (You will have local worlds at that point)
#2414 [17:30] <mr_sticky> yes still the same
#2415 [17:30] <mr_sticky> how do i upload the screen shot
#2416 [17:30] <obi_wan> any reason people who posted questions after me are getting responses first?
#2417 [17:30] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Oh: ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.client.MinecraftApplet <-- not seen that before, wait I'll check
#2418 [17:31] <Kealper> mr_sticky: i think i know what is wrong now.... you downloaded "minecraft.exe" not "minecraft.jar"
#2419 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Means they're using the wrong .jar
#2420 [17:31] <newbie> so can anyone tell me why when i hit "download reference skin" in my profile it just takes me to a distorted image of what looks like an avatar
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#2422 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> newbie - That is the skin, laid out flat
#2423 [17:31] <mr_sticky> do i download this ? run minecraft_server.jar (621 KB) with java
#2424 [17:31] <newbie> okay so what do i do wit it
#2425 [17:31] <Ketsueki> obi_wan: maybe; harder questions... Windows I'm guessing?
#2426 [17:32] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Can you check you downloaded the https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar to your desktop ?
#2427 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> newbie - If you want to make your own skin, try this website: http://minecraft.novaskin.me/
#2428 [17:32] <Kealper> mr_sticky: no...
#2429 [17:32] <Kealper> !client
#2430 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> You can also see the result of the file in the upper right
#2431 [17:32] <obi_wan> yeah. brand new computer, downlaoded minecraft. im able to play for a few minutes but then it randomly freezes
#2432 [17:32] <Kealper> mr_sticky: download this: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar?64270574340372
#2433 [17:32] <Ketsueki> ??> obi_wan win/dxdiag
#2434 [17:32] <VoxelHead> obi_wan: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2435 [17:32] <VoxelHead> obi_wan: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2436 [17:32] <Sibbles> Yeah i did
#2437 [17:33] <Sibbles> Well, it's in a Folder on the desktop to be precise.
#2438 [17:33] <mr_sticky> lol
#2439 [17:33] <obi_wan> where do i open the file?
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#2441 [17:34] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Ok, in that same folder should be the run.bat file
#2442 [17:34] <Ketsueki> obi_wan: you save it someplace and then go there and open it.
#2443 [17:34] <Sibbles> Yes it is.
#2444 [17:34] <mr_sticky> umm kk now my minecraft popped up
#2445 [17:35] <newbie> this seems complicated
#2446 [17:35] <obi_wan> you lost me. save what i downloaded or the world that keeps freezing on me?
#2447 [17:35] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Please check the minecraft.jar in that folder: open the folder and right mouse click over minecraft.jar and select Properties - tell me what the file size is in bytes
#2448 [17:35] <Sibbles> Size on disk or Size?
#2449 [17:35] <Kealper> mr_sticky: ok, try seeing if it works correctly now
#2450 [17:35] <Ketsueki> newbie: your computer performs several billion simple logic instructions each second; yeah, this stuff is complicated.
#2451 [17:36] <mr_sticky> kk
#2452 [17:36] <Ketsueki> obi_wan: NO, Follow the instructions slowly, step by step. It should then be clear.
#2453 [17:36] <newbie> im talkin about makin your own avatar at nova skin
#2454 [17:36] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Either size really
#2455 [17:36] <Slicker> ugh that McNostalgia seems like a pain the ass to just go back a version
#2456 [17:37] <Sibbles> Size: 89,484 Bytes Size on Disk: 94,208 Bytes
#2457 [17:37] <mr_sticky> OMG I LOVE YOU
#2458 [17:37] <Ketsueki> Slicker: looks relatively easy at a glance to me.
#2459 [17:37] <mr_sticky> thanks heaps kealper
#2460 [17:37] <AureliusM> Sibbles: It should be 89,406 bytes, or on disk 90,112 (on my disk of course)
#2461 [17:37] <obi_wan> trying to. dont know which file they want me to open or how to copy the contents
#2462 [17:37] * Kealper runs off now
#2462 [17:37] <Ketsueki> obi_wan: the file you /make/ by running the dxdiag diagnostic tool and saving the report (so we can look at the information it collected for you)
#2463 [17:37] <mr_sticky> lol -.-
#2464 [17:38] <obi_wan> ok. how do i run that?
#2465 [17:38] <mr_sticky> kk bye peeps
#2466 [17:38] <Ketsueki> ??> obi_wan win/key
#2467 [17:38] <VoxelHead> obi_wan: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#2468 [17:38] <Ketsueki> ??> obi_wan win/dxdiag
#2469 [17:38] <VoxelHead> obi_wan: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2470 [17:38] <Sibbles> Mines bigger?
#2471 [17:38] <VoxelHead> obi_wan: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2472 [17:38] <mr_sticky> thanks kealper i'll be back lol
#2473 [17:38] <AureliusM> Sibbles: It should be the same.
#2474 [17:39] <Sibbles> Do you have teamviewer?
#2475 [17:39] <Sibbles> Because you can help me through that, Because i don't know what "Extra 400 Bytes" i have,
#2476 [17:39] <Ketsueki> obi_wan: if you can't at least get to the 'save it to your desktop' step being done, I really can't help you.
#2477 [17:39] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Hmm, I do installed it yesterday but I don't know how to use it.
#2478 [17:41] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Try download it again from: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar?64270574340372
#2479 [17:41] <obi_wan> http://pastebin.com/SHPUTGQQ
#2480 [17:41] <obi_wan> see if thats right
#2481 [17:42] <AureliusM> Sibbles: and save it in the Minecraft folder, overwriting the one already there
#2482 [17:42] <Sibbles> I'v done that but still the same error
#2483 [17:42] <Sibbles> I did that.
#2484 [17:42] <AureliusM> Sibbles: have you got 7Zip or WinRAR ?
#2485 [17:42] <Sibbles> WinRAR
#2486 [17:43] <mr_sticky> how do you craft shit
#2487 [17:43] <AureliusM> Sibbles: use WinRAR to open the minecraft.jar and we'll look insid
#2488 [17:43] <Ketsueki> Ick, obi_wan that's some weird high-end laptop with no GPU isn't it? Well, try this just since your graphics driver is so old...
#2489 [17:43] <Ketsueki> ??> obi_wan intel/gpu
#2490 [17:43] <Ketsueki> ??> obi_wan gpu/intel
#2491 [17:43] <VoxelHead> obi_wan: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
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#2494 [17:44] <obi_wan> i literally bought this computer 2 days ago
#2495 [17:44] <oldtopman> !topic Rules: http://u.kealper.com/rules | Bug tracker: http://goo.gl/GZWrJ | We are not affiliated with Mojang and cannot help with account issues. | Minecraft client 1.1 is out. Server is 1.1 | We do not provide support for pre-releases. | Twitter Minecraft giveaways are SCAMS. | Please be patient as we get used to the new update.
#2496 [17:44] <oldtopman> nuuu
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#2498 [17:44] <squiggy> oldtopman
#2499 [17:45] <oldtopman> squiggy: Hello!
#2500 [17:45] <Ketsueki> obi_wan: Well, your computer is //not// a gaming computer. It has tons of memory but no ability to run demanding 3d games.
#2501 [17:45] <Ketsueki> http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect
#2502 [17:45] <squiggy> oldtopman: I have a question
#2503 [17:45] <oldtopman> Fire away.
#2504 [17:45] <obi_wan> thats the whole reason i bought it. was for gaming and media
#2505 [17:45] <squiggy> Do you know anything about PHP mail
#2506 [17:45] <obi_wan> supposed to be everything that i need and more
#2507 [17:47] <Ketsueki> obi_wan: well whoever sold it to you lied. It won't do higher end games well. It will -barely- run today's games at all, and even then the newer ones will be painfully slow.
#2508 [17:47] <Ketsueki> obi_wan: actually MAYBE dxdiag doesn't have the knowledge of those hybrid gpu solutions... does anyone know?
#2509 [17:48] <Ketsueki> obi_wan: does that thing have an Nvidia or ATI/AMD sticker on it?
#2510 [17:48] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Ok, I retested that minecraft.jar from that link and it works, so what you've downloaded has changed. Are you using Chrome?
#2511 [17:48] <Kealper> that... is one expensive laptop
#2512 [17:48] <Sibbles> Yes, I'm opening up in winrar now, should i put it in pastebin?
#2513 [17:48] <obi_wan> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M GPU with Optimus
#2514 [17:49] <AureliusM> Sibbles: yes, good idea, just the text
#2515 [17:49] <Ketsueki> Ahh obi_wan there NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M Yes, dxdiag just doesn't know... that's a different beast that makes MUCH more sense to me with all that memory.
#2516 [17:49] <Kealper> Ketsueki: yeah, i was about to say.... lol... that thing is like an $1800 MSRP laptop o.o
#2517 [17:49] <obi_wan> so does that help with the whole why its freezing problem?
#2518 [17:49] <Ketsueki> obi_wan: please go here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook_drivers.html and hit the Download Now button
#2519 [17:50] <obi_wan> ok
#2520 [17:50] <AureliusM> Sibbles: In that minecraft.jar WinRAR should show 4 folders: net META-INF LZMA and .svn, and one file: Util.class
#2521 [17:50] <Sibbles> Yeah i have all of them
#2522 [17:51] <Ketsueki> obi_wan: I've --never-- used a computer like that before, and while I might be able to figure out what to do if one were in front of me; I unfortunately don't have any way of helping you. Someone -else- who is familliar with "Nvidia/Intel Optimus GPU AND Minecraft" will need to help; you might also try googling what I just put in quotes.
#2523 [17:51] <obi_wan> i clicked it but nothing happened. just brought me to a what it does screen
#2524 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> http://josoft.net/post/2011/01/18/Minecraft-on-your-Nvidia-Optimus-laptop.aspx
#2525 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> For the person running optimus ^
#2526 [17:52] <AureliusM> Sibbles: You could test the minecraft.jar is Ok by uploading it to https://www.virustotal.com/
#2527 [17:52] <Ketsueki> obi_wan: you'll have to enable scripts/etc on that site
#2528 [17:52] <Ketsueki> obi_wan: 20120112-14:51:51 <@GreyVulpine> http://josoft.net/post/2011/01/18/Minecraft-on-your-Nvidia-Optimus-laptop.aspx
#2529 [17:52] <cd1207> does anyone know how to get a server updated to minecraft 1.1?
#2530 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> cd1207 - By downloading the minecraft_server from the website and replacing it
#2531 [17:52] <Ketsueki> cd1207: same way you setup the server to begin with.
#2532 [17:53] <Sibbles> 0/42 Detection ratio
#2533 [17:53] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Browse to https://www.virustotal.com/ and click the Choose button, browse to the desktop and into your new Minecraft folder and select the minecraft.jar; and the SHA code should be: d275a1895b5d18e5a913d637d941cc1df83097add76103c2e02e4e513ceb982a ; Virustotal should report it was analysed before
#2534 [17:54] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Ok, did you click the View last Analysis button?
#2535 [17:54] <Sibbles> It did report it was analysed before here is the code: d275a1895b5d18e5a913d637d941cc1df83097add76103c2e02e4e513ceb982a
#2536 [17:54] <cd1207> okay, but my server uses bukkit. :/
#2537 [17:55] <Ketsueki> cd1207: you should know this drill by now... bukkit is more or less a mod; mods take time to update
#2538 [17:55] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Yes that's all correct.
#2539 [17:56] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Ok, let's ignore the difference in size.
#2540 [17:56] <cd1207> ...that's what i was afraid of. okay thanks
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#2543 [18:05] <jdgregson> Hello. I just updated to 1.1, and may have found a bug. On Linux, at least. If I press F2 to take a screen shot, the whole game crashes. It just closes without any error messages. My syslog doesn't even have any segfault messages or anything.
#2544 [18:07] <AF24> hi i just got this error message when i selected my world to enter on minecraft:
#2545 [18:07] <AF24> Minecraft has crashed minecraft has stopped working because it encountered a problem. if you wish to repport this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@majong.com. please include a description of what you did when the error occurred. Begin error report a1dce528 Generated 12/01/12 22:58 Minecraft: minecraft 1.1 os: windows 7 (x86) java: 1.6
#2546 [18:08] <AureliusM> java experts, Sibbles's java is still giving the error ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.client.MinecraftApplet when I tried in teamviewer
#2547 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> AureliusM - Means they're using the wrong minecraft.jar
#2548 [18:08] <Boreeas> ^
#2549 [18:08] <Boreeas> Redownload
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#2551 [18:08] <AureliusM> java experts, I think I'll try setting the full path to java
#2552 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Are you absolutely sure you're using the launcher, and not the one from .minecraft
#2553 [18:09] <AureliusM> I've checked the SHA hashsum matches for minecraft.jar
#2554 [18:09] <AureliusM> Yes, the launcher starts, but fails after the login. I'll recheck the jar a third time
#2555 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Wait, fails how?
#2556 [18:10] <AureliusM> fails: http://pastebin.com/GTgA3tDS
#2557 [18:10] <AF24> hi i just got this error message when i selected my world to enter on minecraft:
#2558 [18:10] <newbie> okay once i made my own skin in novaskin and have uploaded it to my profile then what?
#2559 [18:10] <AF24> Minecraft has crashed minecraft has stopped working because it encountered a problem. if you wish to repport this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@majong.com. please include a description of what you did when the error occurred. Begin error report a1dce528 Generated 12/01/12 22:58 Minecraft: minecraft 1.1 os: windows 7 (x86) java: 1.6
#2560 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> newbie - Then you're all good to go. You should see that skin when you play the game
#2561 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> AF24 - Pastebin.com the entire error message please
#2562 [18:11] <newbie> what but i dont
#2563 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> AF24 - Give us the URL to it
#2564 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> newbie - Re-login
#2565 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> AureliusM - You get this after the cmd launches the login window?
#2566 [18:12] <AF24> http://pastebin.com/SfJE6SGR
#2567 [18:12] <jdgregson> I just updated to 1.1, and may have found a bug. On Linux, at least. If I press F2 to take a screen shot, the whole game crashes. It just closes without any error messages. My syslog doesn't even have any segfault messages or anything.
#2568 [18:12] <newbie> yay it change but it looks weird gotta go edit it
#2569 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> AF24 - That can't be the entire error message..
#2570 [18:13] <newbie> thanks
#2571 [18:13] <AF24> no i couldnt copy it all it would not let me
#2572 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> jdgregson - As we're not Mojang, we cannot provide them with any bug reports. Try posting it in the wiki at minecraftwiki.net
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#2574 [18:13] <jdgregson> Thank you.
#2575 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> AF24 - That's an incomplete error report, without the entire text, I cannot determine why it crashed
#2576 [18:14] <AF24> but i did just create a new world and i got into that one fine could it be a problem with my old worlds from before an update?
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#2578 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> AF24 - It could, yes
#2579 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> Having an older mod would also explain problems like that
#2580 [18:15] <AF24> ok thanks for your help and sorry im such a noob haha
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#2582 [18:15] <AF24> been revising for exams so not been on it in ages
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#2585 [18:16] <Sojo> Anyone, I have a large problem. My minecraft.jar refuses to open due to me not 'having permissions' but I used the hidden administrator account, 'Take Ownership', even making a new computer account. I even had a friend send me their .jar. I can open any .jar file EXPECT for Minecraft 1.1 version. What do?
#2586 [18:16] <Sojo> I've raged all my hair out, I've been at it for about 2 hours.
#2587 [18:17] <Sojo> Anyone???
#2588 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Sojo - Why are you opening the minecraft.jar?
#2589 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Hello?
#2590 [18:18] <Sojo> Minecraft.exe needs to open it to run, and I open it with winrar.
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#2592 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Sojo - And why are you opening it with winrar? You shouldn't need to
#2593 [18:19] <shadoom> Hey I'm having a question regarding the new Multilanguage feature... when I switch to the Chinese language, the interface is in chinese... but I still cannot write in Chinese letters only "?"s appear, will minecraft ever support chinese?
#2594 [18:19] <Sojo> Minecraft.exe also gets stuck at 'Done Loading' before saying anything, yes I have multiple times removed .minecraft folder.
#2595 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> shadoom - We cannot tell you
#2596 [18:19] <Sojo> I opened with winrar to see if anything was clearly missing.
#2597 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Sojo - On windows?
#2598 [18:19] <Sojo> Windows 7
#2599 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Sojo - Could you please go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#2600 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Press enter. Tell me if you have a ! in the folder name
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#2602 [18:20] <Sojo> In which folder name? .minecraft?
#2603 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> With the instructions I just told you
#2604 [18:21] <Sojo> I do not see any '!'
#2605 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> What is the folder's name?
#2606 [18:21] <Sojo> My name.
#2607 [18:21] <Sojo> 'Sam'
#2608 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> And you're sure there's no ! symbol in the folder... okay
#2609 [18:21] <Sojo> No !
#2610 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> When you removed .minecraft, did you delete all the files in it?
#2611 [18:22] <Sojo> Yes.
#2612 [18:22] <Sojo> Shift + del
#2613 [18:22] <Sojo> Entire .minecraft folder
#2614 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> And minecraft wasn't running at the time, correct?
#2615 [18:22] <Sojo> The minecraft.jar allows me to remove it for some reason. Correct.
#2616 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#2617 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Does it, or doesn't it?
#2618 [18:22] <Sojo> minecraft.jar allows me to remove it, but not copy,move or open it.
#2619 [18:23] <Sojo> Correct, it wasn't running.
#2620 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> Please check your .minecraft folder now. What is currently in there?
#2621 [18:23] <Sojo> bin folder and lastlogin
#2622 [18:23] <Ketsueki> shadoom: to be more precice; we have no way of knowing
#2623 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Sojo - Could you delete the bin folder right now?
#2624 [18:24] <Sojo> Yes, do you want me to?
#2625 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Sojo - Yes
#2626 [18:25] <Sojo> Done.
#2627 [18:25] <shadoom> Ketsueki: is there any email/tracker officially from mojang? Where I could ask them about that?
#2628 [18:25] <Ketsueki> shadoom: getsatisfaction?
#2629 [18:26] <AureliusM> Could someone more expert at java teamviewer Sibbles for me? I cannot figure it out.
#2630 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Sojo - the bin folder is gone, correct? Then try minecraft
#2631 [18:26] <Sojo> Bin folder is gone. Now I'm runnin' Minecraft.exe
#2632 [18:27] <Sojo> Stops at 'Done Loading'
#2633 [18:27] <Sojo> But...
#2634 [18:27] <Sojo> For the FIRST time I got a ballon from Bitdefender....
#2635 [18:28] <Sojo> One second, adding expection.
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#2637 [18:30] <Sojo> It was Bitdefender...
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#2639 [18:30] <Sojo> Sorry for wasting your time. *walks away with sunken shoulders*
#2640 [18:32] <AureliusM> GreyVulpine, apasrt from wrong minecraft.jar what could cause classnotfound in Windows 7 ? The java path in environment variables?
#2641 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> AureliusM - I've only ever had it happen on bad minecraft.jars
#2642 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> If it was a bad java path, windows wouldn't know what to do with the java command
#2643 [18:33] <Ketsueki> AureliusM: try downloading it again
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#2645 [18:34] <zee4786> How do I update my server? its hosted by gameservers.com
#2646 [18:34] <Ketsueki> zee4786: ask gameservers.com
#2647 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> zee4786 - You'll need to talk to gameservers
#2648 [18:34] <Ketsueki> Likely you'll find they will have an update within a day.
#2649 [18:34] <zee4786> i can't update my version and upload via FTP?
#2650 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> zee4786 - No. Gameservers will need to do it for you
#2651 [18:35] <zee4786> QQ
#2652 [18:35] <zee4786> thanks
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#2655 [18:40] <Guest52633> hello?
#2656 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2657 [18:41] <Guest52633> uh........
#2658 [18:42] <AureliusM> Hi Grey?
#2659 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Yo?
#2660 [18:42] <AureliusM> Or Ketsueki? Is there a java cache that needs clearing, that makes java not find the class?
#2661 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Hmm... what version of java are they running?
#2662 [18:43] <AureliusM> Java 6
#2663 [18:44] <AureliusM> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.client.MinecraftApplet <- is the error, ah wait, I need to check the .minecraft/
#2664 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> And you've redownloaded minecraft.jar directly?
#2665 [18:45] <AureliusM> I'll do that now, but the hashsum matches. I'll do that anyway.
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#2670 [18:51] <AureliusM> GreyVulpine, I've just downloaded minecraft.jar directly myself on Sipples PC and same error. I'm thinking temporary files problem, or Java just has the wrong path somewhere
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#2672 [18:51] <Bogdigity> hi
#2673 [18:51] <Ketsueki> Or you need a 100% clean download to start with.
#2674 [18:52] <Bogdigity> so I tried to install the Aether mod, I did everything in the updated tutorial to the last step
#2675 [18:52] <Bogdigity> but when I start minecraft I just get a black screen
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#2678 [18:53] <justdavid> I have just upgraded to 1.1. Now I get a minecraft has crashed error on startup. Forced a full update and rebooted - still a problem
#2679 [18:53] <ledfall> Just downloaded 1.1 server and before with 1.0 i had a run server.bat file so it could run properly and friends could join but it seems i need a new code for the startserver.bat file
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#2682 [18:56] <Jacobharden> Could somebody link me 1.0.1 download for minecraft please? I accidently updated and cant get on meh servers
#2683 [18:57] <Ketsueki> Jacobharden: look for mcnostolga (sp) on minecraftforums
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#2685 [18:57] <Ketsueki> ledfall: you shouldn't.
#2686 [18:57] <Ketsueki> ??> justdavid win/dxdiag
#2687 [18:57] <VoxelHead> justdavid: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2688 [18:57] <VoxelHead> justdavid: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2689 [18:58] <Ketsueki> ??> Bogdigity mods
#2690 [18:58] <VoxelHead> Bogdigity: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2691 [18:58] <VoxelHead> Bogdigity: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#2692 [18:58] <Ketsueki> ??> Bogdigity win/reinst
#2693 [18:58] <VoxelHead> Bogdigity: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2694 [18:58] <VoxelHead> Bogdigity: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2695 [18:59] <Ketsueki> now back to my real job. Oh justdavid I or someone else will glance at your pastebin as we have time.
#2696 [18:59] <ledfall> i cant join my server now then
#2697 [18:59] <Hawkhead> I had too many items yesterday and today I updated minecraft and its not there
#2698 [18:59] <justdavid> Thanks very much, but I deleted contents of .minecraft in the mean time. Restarted and it worked :)
#2699 [19:01] <hobotan> I probably have missed it, but I when I logged into my server there is much lag and I am unable to interact with blocks or objects as a result. The world loads incredibly slow and it makes it unplayable. I think I have to purge the files that minecraft saves on my computer, but I am unsure how to do this. Any suggestions?
#2700 [19:04] <ledfall> Since 1.1 i cant join my server
#2701 [19:06] <Hawkhead> ........
#2702 [19:09] <Hawkhead> I had too many items yesterday and today I updated minecraft and its not there
#2703 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> With mods, you'll need to always update the mods when minecraft updates
#2704 [19:10] <Hawkhead> o
#2705 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> Since minecraft just updated, you'll need to wait for the mod's creator to update it
#2706 [19:10] <ledfall> i updated my server with 1.1 and now so one can connect or even reach it.What do?
#2707 [19:10] <Hawkhead> how do I do that?
#2708 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> Hawkhead - Wait?
#2709 [19:10] <Hawkhead> ok
#2710 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Hawkhead - Well, you sit there, and do other stuff while the person working on the mod updates it
#2711 [19:11] <Hawkhead> bye
#2712 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> ledfall - Vanilla or bukkit?
#2713 [19:11] <hobotan> I'm having issues with my server. I can't do anything once I log in because of what looks like terrible server lag, after the update. I'm not sure how to remedy this
#2714 [19:12] <ledfall> Vanilla
#2715 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> hobotan - vanilla or modded?
#2716 [19:12] <hobotan> just standard, so vanilla
#2717 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> ledfall - Are you hosting it yourself?
#2718 [19:13] <ledfall> Yes
#2719 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> ;check ledfall
#2720 [19:13] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: c-71-194-188-174.hsd1.il.comcast.net:25565 (Timed out)
#2721 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> ledfall - And you're sure you're running 1.1 from the server's console.
#2722 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> hobotan - If you want to clear your client's files, please tell me what operating system you're running
#2723 [19:14] <ledfall> Yes?
#2724 [19:14] <ledfall> Was the one on minecraft.net not 1.1
#2725 [19:14] <hobotan> windows 7
#2726 [19:14] <hobotan> shit, no vista on this comp
#2727 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> ledfall - Have no idea. It should tell you in the server's console. Recheck your port forwarding
#2728 [19:14] <hobotan> sorry for profanity
#2729 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> hobotan - Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#2730 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder. Delete everything inside except for saves. When you run minecraft again, it'll redownload
#2731 [19:15] <ledfall> alright
#2732 [19:15] <ledfall> Yes its 1
#2733 [19:15] <ledfall> 1.1
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#2735 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> ledfall - Again, recheck your port forwarding
#2736 [19:16] <Jess3> Hey can anyone help me, my minecraft will not update
#2737 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> Jess3 - What version are you on? What happens when you try?
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#2739 [19:17] <Jess3> 1.9, it stops downloading the update at minecraft.jar
#2740 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> Jess3 - 1.9?
#2741 [19:17] <Jess3> Im trying to update to 1.1
#2742 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Jess3 - You're still running a beta pre-release?
#2743 [19:18] <Jess3> 1.9/ 1.0
#2744 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> 1.9 is not 1.0
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#2746 [19:18] <ledfall> Thanks it was the port forwarding
#2747 [19:18] <hobotan> deleted the folder except for saves and it has reloaded. When I log into the server, everything just loads incredibly slow there is delay when anything is done. I hit a block and nothing pops out. Sometimes it produces a block but sometimes it just doesn't. If I try a chest nothing happens
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#2749 [19:18] <Jess3> I am on 1.0
#2750 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> hobotan - Make sure you're not within the spawn protection
#2751 [19:19] <Jess3> Trying to update to 1.1
#2752 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> Jess3 - Launch your minecraft client, before logging in, go to the options menu and hit "Force Update"
#2753 [19:19] <hobotan> I'm way out in the boonies
#2754 [19:19] <Jess3> I have done that, deleted my .minecraft and then did that, and even deleted my minecraft.exe and redownloaded and forced update
#2755 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Jess3 - And the progress bar gets stuck on minecraft.jar?
#2756 [19:20] <Jess3> Yea
#2757 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Jess3 - Check to make sure your security software isn't blocking it
#2758 [19:20] <Jess3> It stops at different percents of it.
#2759 [19:20] <Bozy> I updated my account and now it doesnt work. Y? Please help
#2760 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> Bozy - Updated what account to what?
#2761 [19:21] <Jess3> Does minecraft have a certain port or anything
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#2763 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> Jess3 - Nope
#2764 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Jess3 - Many antivirus or security software will sometimes block minecraft.jar from downloading, thinking it's a virus
#2765 [19:22] <Bozy> There was an update on mine raft this morning. I pressed update and now my I am not allowed to access any servers
#2766 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Bozy - Servers don't automatically update. you'll need to wait for the server's admint o update
#2767 [19:22] <hobotan> I'm far from spawn protect. Monsters sort of just appear and teleport around, when I type in chat it takes at least a minute in order to appear in game.
#2768 [19:22] <summoslammer> tried to connect and it says "cannot reach server" for the past two days, any thoughts?
#2769 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> hobotan - Try remaking the minecraft folder
#2770 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> or the server itself
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#2773 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> summoslammer - Then that server is down
#2774 [19:23] <hobotan> mine? or the server?
#2775 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> hobotan - The server
#2776 [19:24] <summoslammer> GreyVulpine - Is it typical for the server to be down for two days? Who do I contact about this?
#2777 [19:24] <hobotan> so I save the world file so I don't lose the server and just get a redownload?
#2778 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> summoslammer - Whomever runs your minecraft server
#2779 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> hobotan - Just don't touch the current server, and redownload the server binary into a new folder.
#2780 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Run that new server by itself.
#2781 [19:25] <summoslammer> GreyVulpine - how do I find out who runs my minecraft server
#2782 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> summoslammer - I have no idea
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#2784 [19:25] <Jess3> I just got it, diabled my antivirus thanks
#2785 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> summoslammer - Servers are independently-run.
#2786 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Jess3 - What antivirus do you run?
#2787 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Jess3 - What antivirus do you run?
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#2789 [19:26] <Jess3> AVG 2011
#2790 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Ah, Thanks for the info.
#2791 [19:26] <summoslammer> GreyVulpine - Thanks, I think my son might know something about this...as I don't and am on this board on his behalf...
#2792 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> AVG's been known to do this
#2793 [19:26] <Jess3> It didn't use to which is weird :P
#2794 [19:26] <Jess3> It didn't use to which is weird :P
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#2796 [19:28] <mib_k8bwxw> recently my minecraft has decided that it cannot go online. every time i open it there is nothing where it usually shows updates and no matter what login i enter it tells me im wrong!!!i have reinstalled it a billion times
#2797 [19:28] <mib_k8bwxw> help :(
#2798 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> mib_k8bwxw - What version of java are you running?
#2799 [19:29] <mib_k8bwxw> how do i know?
#2800 [19:29] <mib_k8bwxw> should i update
#2801 [19:29] <mib_k8bwxw> ?
#2802 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> Well, what operating system are you on? Windows? MacOS? Linux? AmigaOS?
#2803 [19:29] <mib_k8bwxw> windows
#2804 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> What version of windows?
#2805 [19:30] <mib_k8bwxw> 7
#2806 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu, go to the control panel and click on "Programs and features". Look for Java in there.
#2807 [19:31] <mib_k8bwxw> 1.6
#2808 [19:31] <mib_k8bwxw> is that what u need to know?
#2809 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> mib_k8bwxw - Do you see Java 7 in there at all? If so, uninstall it
#2810 [19:32] <mib_k8bwxw> it doesnt say java 7 just java
#2811 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> mib_k8bwxw - What is the error when you try to log into minecraft?
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#2813 [19:33] <mib_k8bwxw> cant connect to minecraft.net
#2814 [19:33] <fenster> hi there
#2815 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> mib_k8bwxw - Has minecraft worked before for you?
#2816 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Hello
#2817 [19:34] <mib_k8bwxw> i have had it for ages
#2818 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_k8bwxw - And minecraft's worked for you, on that computer?
#2819 [19:34] <mib_k8bwxw> it has worked perfectly on this computer
#2820 [19:34] <fenster> can someone help
#2821 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_k8bwxw - This usually occurs, "Can't connect to minecraft.net" along with the "No news in the news feed", because of java 1.7 being installed on the computer.
#2822 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_k8bwxw - Could you please uninstall all java from that computer, and reinstall only Java 1.6/Java 6
#2823 [19:35] <mib_k8bwxw> ok
#2824 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Only if you tell us what the issue is
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#2828 [19:38] <sluseeee> so i open up minecraft log in and then the screen just gos black
#2829 [19:38] <mib_k8bwxw> it worked!!!
#2830 [19:39] <mib_k8bwxw> thank you so much!
#2831 [19:39] <mib_k8bwxw> force update sluseee
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#2833 [19:40] <sluseeee> thanks
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#2835 [19:41] <mohawk> can i download 1.0.0
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#2837 [19:42] <mohawk> hello
#2838 [19:42] <mib_k8bwxw> yerr
#2839 [19:43] <mohawk> is there any way i can download 1.0.0
#2840 [19:44] <acid> i'm sure it has been asked a thousand times already and i am about to do it again:) I did the deed and clicked the update now button. of course i can not get onto any of the servers i was playing on. Is there a minecraft legacy directory or something?
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#2842 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> acid - Check out mcnostalgia
#2843 [19:44] <acid> haha you did it too mohawk?
#2844 [19:44] <acid> thx grey
#2845 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> It is against the terms of service to distribute older minecraft.jars
#2846 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> MCnostalgia is a bit of a grey area. It applies binary patches to the existing minecraft.jar
#2847 [19:45] <acid> i guess i could understand that but i would also think it is against human nature to give a choice to update and not the option to take it back
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#2849 [19:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Ahh, MCNostalgia
#2850 [19:46] <CrusaderDeleters> By an old acquaintance of mine.
#2851 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Next time, back up minecraft.jar before updating
#2852 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> We get this everytime minecraft updates
#2853 [19:47] <acid> yeah well i normally wouldnt have done it to begin with but it was one of those sleepy, why is this box in my way decisions
#2854 [19:47] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#2855 [19:47] <acid> i bet you do
#2856 [19:48] <Ketsueki> acid: I /almost/ had that problem, except, I keep backups (and if I do update it that annoying question will go away...)
#2857 [19:49] <acid> i know right
#2858 [19:49] <acid> yeah that thingy there is a mod. i am not really a fan of that idea so i will op out of that.
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#2860 [19:50] <quiggle> Why wont my Minecraft update to 1.1?
#2861 [19:50] <acid> i just figured that maybe minecraft.net kept the last version since there was an option to update for a reason.
#2862 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> acid - It doesn't, normally
#2863 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> quiggle - Don't know, what happens when you try?
#2864 [19:51] <quiggle> It says it failed to download
#2865 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> What is the Full error message?
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#2867 [19:51] <quiggle> Hold on,
#2868 [19:51] <quiggle> Hold on,
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#2870 [19:52] <quiggle> Fatal error occured (4): s3.amazonaws.com
#2871 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> Check your security software, it is likely blocking minecraft from downloading
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#2873 [19:55] <oldtopman> ??< server
#2874 [19:55] <quiggle> Do I let it run Java(TM) Platform SE binary?
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#2876 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> quiggle - Yes
#2877 [19:58] <quiggle> Ok its working. Thanks!
#2878 [20:02] <Cyndre> hey trying to get my server up and running with the update and having a few issues. 1 when I download in ie I get a zip file ( http://cable-lynx.net/images/why.png ) and after download the jar in chrome I still get outdated server
#2879 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> Cyndre - First one is IE's fault. It tends to rename the .jar to a .zip for some stupid inane reason.
#2880 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> Cyndre - Secondly, are you running vanilla or modded?
#2881 [20:04] <Cyndre> GreVulpine: craftbukkit mod with lockette installed
#2882 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Cyndre - That would be why. You'll need to wait for the bukkit people to update their server binary
#2883 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> There's a dev version, but again, there's no stable release for bukkit yet
#2884 [20:05] <Cyndre> kk was going to try running without it but will go install the dev version, thanks :)
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#2896 [20:58] <AlexJ8> Sorry. I'm new to this.
#2897 [20:59] <acid> ok i had a friend send me his bin file since he hasnt updated yet so i will be good to go. thank you for all your help here and keep popping those blocks!
#2898 [21:00] <iPixeli> alexj8 explain your problem, it makes this faster
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#2900 [21:01] <AlexJ8> I'm able to destroy blocks by punching them, and then it stops working. So I reinstalled Minecraft and got it working again, and then it stopped a second time.
#2901 [21:01] <iPixeli> Are you playing on multiplayer?
#2902 [21:02] <AlexJ8> No. THe Mac version of single player.
#2903 [21:02] <Lobo> Hello, I need your help with starting minecraft up. Whenever I click Minecraft.exe, nothing happens. I tried downloading another, but the same thing happened. This all started after downloading 64-bit java and restarting my pc. Any ideas?
#2904 [21:03] <iPixeli> what os?
#2905 [21:03] <Lobo> Me? Windows
#2906 [21:03] <Lobo> 7
#2907 [21:03] <Lobo> 64-bit
#2908 [21:04] <Wug> :tv > Lobo
#2909 [21:04] <WugBot> Lobo: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#2910 [21:04] <WugBot> Lobo: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#2911 [21:04] <iPixeli> Have you ever messed with your environemnt variables, lobo
#2912 [21:05] <iPixeli> and up ^ do that.
#2913 [21:05] <Lobo> nope, I have not
#2914 [21:05] <iPixeli> *um
#2915 [21:05] <squiggy> Wug: hi
#2916 [21:05] <Wug> squiggy: yo
#2917 [21:05] <Lobo> one sec, I want to try something
#2918 [21:05] <Lobo> I'll be back
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#2925 [21:22] <slimer> i just set up a minecraft server before the recent program update. i can no longer access it as it is saying it is an outdated server. can i update the server to be able to access it again?
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#2927 [21:23] <Toteke> I have Minecraft installed, but on this computer, it won't let me login from the window.
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#2929 [21:24] <Fangedgameer> If I delete some of my programs I no longer use, will it improve my minecraft performance?
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#2931 [21:26] <|Kiikun|> Fangedgameer: only if you dont have alot of harddrive space or the programs are actually running in the background
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#2933 [21:26] <|Kiikun|> slimer: yes, just download the server from minecraft.net/download again
#2934 [21:27] * |Kiikun| asumes 1.1 is out now
#2934 [21:27] <Fangedgameer> I have 4GB of RAM, is there something im missing?
#2935 [21:27] <Fangedgameer> *Random question
#2936 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - What video card do you have?
#2937 [21:28] <Fangedgameer> Where would I go to find that?
#2938 [21:28] * mib_uc6e6u [mib_uc6e6u@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2939 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> What operating system?
#2940 [21:29] <Fangedgameer> Windows
#2941 [21:29] <mr_evil> I cannot get this game to load, just black screen
#2942 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - What version of windows
#2943 [21:30] <Fangedgameer> Windows 7
#2944 [21:30] <mr_evil> I just spent $27 and this game will not load, goes through download process and then just gets stuck on a black screen. (winxp sp3 p4 3.0g 2gb ram)
#2945 [21:30] <mib_uc6e6u> Hey I updated the new version of mc and now its telling me that the server is outdated how can I go back to the original version????
#2946 [21:30] <Wug> :dx > mr_evil
#2947 [21:30] <WugBot> mr_evil: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2948 [21:30] <WugBot> mr_evil: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2949 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in:... bleh, just follow WugBot's instructions
#2950 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> mib_uc6e6u - Google for MCnostalgia
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#2953 [21:32] <Fangedgameer> http://mibpaste.com/SfAnVh
#2954 [21:32] <TehPantz> Hello! I have a unique problem (I think): When I start up the minecraft client, i login and it says that it cannot connect to minecraft.net. This had been this way for over SIX months.
#2955 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - That's not the full dxdiag
#2956 [21:33] <Fangedgameer> ?
#2957 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - Make sure you have the full dxdiag copied
#2958 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> TehPantz - Not a unique problem. Has minecraft ever worked for you?
#2959 [21:33] <TehPantz> I have tried re-downloading minecraft several times and forcing updates to no avail
#2960 [21:33] <Fangedgameer> I see my mistiake Hold on
#2961 [21:33] <TehPantz> yes
#2962 [21:33] <slimer> Kiikun - i downloaded the new server program and it spawns a new world. i have my old server in a different folder, can i still access what i created before?
#2963 [21:33] <TehPantz> a long time ago when i played multiplayer
#2964 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> TehPantz - Do you see a news feed in the launcher?
#2965 [21:34] <TehPantz> nope
#2966 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> No?
#2967 [21:34] <Fangedgameer> http://mibpaste.com/G8EEB2
#2968 [21:34] <TehPantz> this is not a browser launcher
#2969 [21:34] <TehPantz> it is from my computer
#2970 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> TehPantz - Yes. There's a news feed in the downloadable launcher
#2971 [21:34] <TehPantz> if that makes any sense
#2972 [21:34] <TehPantz> ah
#2973 [21:34] <TehPantz> yeah i have no feed
#2974 [21:34] <TehPantz> just Login and Pass
#2975 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> TehPantz - If you have an old launcher, redownload minecraft
#2976 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> That would be why it doesn't work
#2977 [21:35] <TehPantz> i have many times
#2978 [21:35] <TehPantz> i actually just did
#2979 [21:35] <TehPantz> about 2 min ago
#2980 [21:35] <TehPantz> still the same thing
#2981 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> TehPantz - One moment
#2982 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> TehPantz - Do you see this: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Launcher.png
#2983 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Or this: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Oldlauncher.png
#2984 [21:36] <TehPantz> is there suppose to be stuff after the colon?
#2985 [21:36] <TehPantz> so i guess not :D
#2986 [21:36] <Wug> Fangedgameer: download and install this
#2987 [21:36] <Wug> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20601&ProdId=2991&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20(64-bit)*&DownloadType=
#2988 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Fangedgameer - You're running a Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset. It's like having a ferrari, but with a 4-cyl engine. You might see yourself as having a fantastic computer from the outside, but you're not going to be racing with it
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#2990 [21:37] <Fangedgameer> GreyVulpine So wise =.=
#2991 [21:38] <Fangedgameer> This is giong to take 40m?
#2992 [21:39] <mr_evil> Is this the correct link from pastebin you wanted (http://pastebin.com/ay5Xey04)
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#2995 [21:40] <Wug> ;+ driver/win7/x64/intel/4series Download and install this driver for Windows 7 or Windows Vista, 64 bit editions, with "Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family" GPUs:;;http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20601
#2996 [21:40] <WugBot> Done.
#2997 [21:41] <TehPantz> so, any thoughts?
#2998 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> TehPantz - Did you answer my question? I didn't see...
#2999 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> TehPantz - Which launcher do you see?
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#3001 [21:42] <Wug> ;+ driver/naming If you're going to add factoids to wugbot with driver downloads, please use the following naming convention:;;driver/<operating system>/<x64 or x86 for 64 bit or 32 bit>/<device vendor>/<chipset name>
#3002 [21:42] <WugBot> Done.
#3003 [21:42] <Fangedgameer> Im downloading the first link, do I need do do all of these?
#3004 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Um, no. Those are pictures of launchers.
#3005 [21:42] <TehPantz> I do not see anything
#3006 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> I'm trying to determine if you're still using the old launcher, or the new one
#3007 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> TehPantz - Go here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Oldlauncher.png
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#3009 [21:43] <TehPantz> i can't see that either
#3010 [21:43] <TehPantz> :/
#3011 [21:43] * GreyVulpine blinks
#3011 [21:43] <TehPantz> says it is a broken immage
#3012 [21:43] <TehPantz> image*
#3013 [21:43] <benjimin> i need help downgrading my version from 1.1 to 1.0.0 so my mods will work
#3014 [21:44] <TehPantz> pretty sure i have the old client though
#3015 [21:44] <TehPantz> how do i get the new one
#3016 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> TehPantz - Redownload it from minecraft.net/download
#3017 [21:44] <TehPantz> when i go into my '.minecraft' folder
#3018 [21:44] <TehPantz> i can't execute the .jar
#3019 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> TehPantz - Don't execute the .jar
#3020 [21:44] <TehPantz> i ahve redownloaded
#3021 [21:44] <TehPantz> many times
#3022 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> TehPantz - What did you redownload?
#3023 [21:44] <TehPantz> i can't find any executable file
#3024 [21:44] <TehPantz> the whole thing
#3025 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> !client
#3026 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Download the windows one ^
#3027 [21:45] <TehPantz> roger that
#3028 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> benjimin - It is against Mojang's Terms of service to distribute older files. You can go back to older versions if you had the foresight to back it up before updating. Otherwise, google MCNostalgia
#3029 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> benjimin - We do not provide any support for MCNostalgia, since it is a grey area of legality
#3030 [21:46] <TehPantz> ok
#3031 [21:46] <TehPantz> i have downlaoded that clinet many times
#3032 [21:46] <TehPantz> and it works
#3033 [21:46] <TehPantz> but after i close it
#3034 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> TehPantz - Make sure you're saving it in a place you can get to next time
#3035 [21:46] <TehPantz> i can't find it againt without redownloading
#3036 [21:46] <TehPantz> does that make sense?
#3037 [21:47] <benjimin> uokay sorry but i just got mincraft a little while agoand i didnt know what to do so sorry for bothering you and is there someplace i can go to find someone who will take me step by step though how to downgrade
#3038 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes. Make your browser download it to a different spot. Or check your browser's downloads history to see where it downloads to
#3039 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> benjimin - Try googling for MCNostalgia
#3040 [21:48] <TehPantz> i know where it downloads to
#3041 [21:48] <TehPantz> but after i run it
#3042 [21:48] <TehPantz> the program works great
#3043 [21:48] <TehPantz> but then i can't get back there after i close it
#3044 [21:48] <mr_evil> anybody check mo out yet
#3045 [21:49] <TehPantz> there is no executable minecraft program in my '.minecraft' folder
#3046 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> TehPantz - What browser do you use?
#3047 [21:49] <TehPantz> chrome
#3048 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> TehPantz - Alright. Follow me, step by step.
#3049 [21:49] <TehPantz> kk
#3050 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> TehPantz - Go to minecraft.net/download
#3051 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> TehPantz - Do you see a link for Minecraft.exe there?
#3052 [21:49] <TehPantz> yes
#3053 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Right click on it. Choose, "Save link as"
#3054 [21:50] <TehPantz> yes
#3055 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Above the Minecraft.exe file name. Do you see Documents > Downloads
#3056 [21:51] <TehPantz> yes
#3057 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> Click on the << button to the left of Documents. Select your Desktop. Then choose save.
#3058 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> You should now have a minecraft.exe on your desktop
#3059 [21:53] <Fangedgameer> Thansk Greyvulpin and Wug
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#3061 [21:53] <pacogutierrez> Hello
#3062 [21:54] <pacogutierrez> I'm getting the blackscreen on the downloaded version of MC ever time I try to install an addon. What can I do?
#3063 [21:54] <TehPantz> aha
#3064 [21:54] <TehPantz> that did it
#3065 [21:54] <TehPantz> thanks GreyVulpine
#3066 [21:54] <TehPantz> you are a gentleman and a scholar
#3067 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> pacogutierrez - Since minecraft just updated, mods are very likely not updated yet. You'll need to wait for the mod's creator to update them before you can install them
#3068 [21:54] * GreyVulpine tips hat at TehPantz
#3068 [21:55] <pacogutierrez> I forgot to mention, I didn't update minecraft. I'm still wth 1.0.0
#3069 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> pacogutierrez - Then you didn't install the mod correctly, or didn't delete meta-inf, or forgot some other instruction that the mod needed you to do
#3070 [21:56] <pacogutierrez> I followed all of the instructions. Deleted Meta-Inf, unzipped the fils, made sure that mods don't conflict bt the second I start up minecraft with even jut one mod, it shows the blackscreen
#3071 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> pacogutierrez - As there's thousands upon thousands of mods out there, nobody knows how every and every one of them work, whether they're updated, or how to install them all; much less how they'll interact with each other. To find help for your mod, please post in the forum thread where you got the mod from
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#3073 [21:56] <pacogutierrez> Alright
#3074 [21:56] <pacogutierrez> But is there a way to ee the error log of MC?
#3075 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Depends on your operating system
#3076 [21:57] <pacogutierrez> Windows Vista Home Basic, SP2 32bit
#3077 [21:57] <mr_evil> Any answers?
#3078 [21:57] <squiggy> Huh...
#3079 [21:57] <squiggy> GreyVulpine: how do you center something vertically with CSS?
#3080 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> pacogutierrez - Follow these instructions to launch minecraft in a command prompt window http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#3081 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> squiggy - Don't use CSS, wouldn't know. This is #minecrafthelp
#3082 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> pacogutierrez - Any errors will (hopefully) show up there
#3083 [21:58] <pacogutierrez> Kk
#3084 [21:58] <pacogutierrez> Thanks GreyVulpine
#3085 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> pacogutierrez - If you're running modloader, check the .minecraft folder for a .log file
#3086 [21:59] <pacogutierrez> Extension .log?
#3087 [22:00] <pacogutierrez> No .log file.
#3088 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> pacogutierrez - I do not remember what modloader calls its .log file. If it created one, it'll be in the %appdata%/.minecraft folder
#3089 [22:00] <squiggy> Probably modloader.log
#3090 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> That's only if you're using modloader with that mod.
#3091 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Still there?
#3092 [22:00] <pacogutierrez> Yeah, I'm using ModLoader
#3093 [22:01] <squiggy> Actually, modloader.txt I think
#3094 [22:01] <pacogutierrez> Thing is, I ca't find a .log file
#3095 [22:01] <pacogutierrez> Yeah, modloader.txt but it doesn't show ay error
#3096 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> pacogutierrez - Could you post the contents of it to pastebin.com?
#3097 [22:01] <pacogutierrez> Surething
#3098 [22:02] <benjimin> thank you guys
#3099 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - You still there?
#3100 [22:02] <pacogutierrez> http://pastebin.com/82cS3D9j
#3101 [22:02] <squiggy> GreyVulpine: am I just squiggy to you?
#3102 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#3104 [22:03] <squiggy> GreyVulpine: IP doesn't even ring a bell...
#3105 [22:04] <Zpectre> Hi, Im having some problems launching my Minecraft, its stuck on "Done Loading" with almost a full bar
#3106 [22:04] <Zpectre> any idea whats wrong ?
#3107 [22:04] <pacogutierrez> Zpectre: Happend to me one. Reinstall MC
#3108 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> pacogutierrez - Hmm. There really isn't anything there I can work with. Try taking that .log file to #risucraft. Tell them you're running 1.0.0 with modloader, and you've deleted meta-inf
#3109 [22:04] <pacogutierrez> That shouldfix it
#3110 [22:05] <pacogutierrez> IRC Channel #risucraft?
#3111 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Yes, in this network. /join #risucraft
#3112 [22:05] <Zpectre> I did go to my %appdata/roaming/ and deleted the .minecraft folder, is that enough ?
#3113 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Zpectre - Yes. Has minecraft worked before?
#3114 [22:06] <Zpectre> yes it has, but when it updated to 1.1 it stopped
#3115 [22:06] <Zpectre> even redownloaded the minecraft.exe
#3116 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Zpectre - And you're sure you deleted everything in the .minecraft folder, without minecraft running? (Saving saves)
#3117 [22:06] <Zpectre> yes sir
#3118 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Zpectre - Check your .minecraft folder right now. What is in there?
#3119 [22:07] <Zpectre> Bin folder and lastlogin file
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#3121 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Anything in the bin folder?
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#3123 [22:08] <Zpectre> yea, folder and files
#3124 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Please delete them
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#3126 [22:09] <infectedspawn> hello
#3127 [22:09] <Zpectre> done
#3128 [22:09] <Doomy098> when someone gets the chance, is it normal for minecraft to take forever to download the update?
#3129 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Zpectre - Now try minecraft
#3130 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Doomy098 - No.
#3131 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Doomy098 - Is it stuck on a specific file?
#3132 [22:09] <oblMraptor> Hi ! Does the Rapid Pulser works on 1.1 ?
#3133 [22:09] <Doomy098> its stuck on the download itself
#3134 [22:09] <infectedspawn> im having a little trouble with minecraft server can someone help when they can
#3135 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Doomy098 - For the launcher, from minecraft.net/download?
#3136 [22:10] <Doomy098> perhaps because i'm using the jar version to launch it?
#3137 [22:10] <Doomy098> i can't use the exe
#3138 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Doomy098 - Shouldn't make a difference.
#3139 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Doomy098 - How are you launching the .jar?
#3140 [22:10] <Zpectre> its the same as before... it downloaded the files, and now its stuck on "Done Loading" with almost a full bar
#3141 [22:10] <Doomy098> thru a bat file
#3142 [22:10] <Doomy098> wrong one sry thats my server
#3143 [22:10] <Doomy098> i mean normally for the other
#3144 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> Zpectre - you completely deleted the bin folder from .minecraft?
#3145 [22:11] <Doomy098> both are run off jar tho, server via bat file, game as is
#3146 [22:11] <Doomy098> server is not on at time of update
#3147 [22:11] <Zpectre> yes
#3148 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> Doomy098 - The launcher runs, you can log in, but it gets stuck on updating?
#3149 [22:11] <Doomy098> so i'm lost as to why it won't update
#3150 [22:11] <Doomy098> yep i can run the game, all that just not download
#3151 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> Doomy098 - Do you see it get stuck on any specific file?
#3152 [22:12] <Doomy098> nope
#3153 [22:12] <Doomy098> just the bar progress at the second? bar tick
#3154 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> Doomy098 - Does it provide you with a progress bar when you log in?
#3155 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> Doomy098 - How far does the progress bar get?
#3156 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> Zpectre - What version of java are you on?
#3157 [22:12] <Doomy098> it logs in fine as far as i know, i don't notice any bars i think?
#3158 [22:12] <Zpectre> dont know, how do I check ?
#3159 [22:12] <Doomy098> the download gets to the 2nd tick an stops
#3160 [22:13] <Doomy098> rather "hangs"
#3161 [22:13] <Zpectre> wait, think I got it, hang on
#3162 [22:13] <Doomy098> no error messages or anything just sits there
#3163 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Doomy098 - Check your security software, make sure java/minecraft is not being blocked
#3164 [22:13] <Doomy098> its not i had to set that up to let it play
#3165 [22:13] <Doomy098> ports are clear as well
#3166 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Doomy098 - What security software do you run?
#3167 [22:14] <Doomy098> zone alarm
#3168 [22:14] <Zpectre> Java version 6 update 29 (build 1.6.0_29-b11)
#3169 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> That has been known to do this before
#3170 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Doomy098 - Could you try disabling zonealarm entirely?
#3171 [22:15] <Doomy098> even tho i set it to allow? ya i can look into that
#3172 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Zpectre - Hmm. That should be right. Could you make sure Java 7/1.7 is not installed on your computer?
#3173 [22:15] <Doomy098> the purpose of setting up firewalls to allow is so one doesn't have to do this sorta thing ya know what i mean?
#3174 [22:15] <Doomy098> but i'll go mess with it
#3175 [22:16] <Doomy098> brb
#3176 [22:16] <infectedspawn> can someone help me with my mincecraft server
#3177 [22:16] <infectedspawn> minecraft**
#3178 [22:16] <infectedspawn> it wont update to 1.1
#3179 [22:16] <Zpectre> theres only one Java icon in my control panel, so I dont know where any other would be
#3180 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> infectedspawn - Are you running vanilla or modded?
#3181 [22:17] <infectedspawn> the one off minecraft.net
#3182 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> infectedspawn - Then redownload the server from minecraft.net/download and replace yours
#3183 [22:17] <infectedspawn> i have done that about 5 times now and it keeps going to 1.0
#3184 [22:18] <infectedspawn> and idk where a .jar file for it is to replace it
#3185 [22:18] <infectedspawn> if it has one
#3186 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> infectedspawn - Are you running the minecraft_server.exe?
#3187 [22:18] <infectedspawn> yup
#3188 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Moment.
#3189 [22:18] <infectedspawn> k
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#3191 [22:18] <Doomy098> nope makes no difference with a full defense drop, av or fw
#3192 [22:19] <Doomy098> still hangs at the 2nd download tick
#3193 [22:19] <infectedspawn> how about your ports?
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#3195 [22:19] <Doomy098> 25565 is open an verified
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#3197 [22:19] <infectedspawn> have you tried a computer restart?
#3198 [22:19] <Doomy098> yes
#3199 [22:20] <infectedspawn> a game reinstall?
#3200 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> infectedspawn - The minecraft_server.exe from minecraft.net/download is running 1.1 for me
#3201 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> infectedspawn - Redownload it, run it in a seperate, new folder
#3202 [22:20] <infectedspawn> idk mine stays at 1.0
#3203 [22:20] <Doomy098> i have deleted the .minecraft folder, an reloaded the jar file as original, no mods/add ons
#3204 [22:20] <Doomy098> so yes
#3205 [22:20] <infectedspawn> i have tried that to
#3206 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> infectedspawn - Try running it in a new folder
#3207 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> !server
#3208 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Download that for windows
#3209 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Doomy098 - Do you run any other security software? What antivirus do you run?
#3210 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> AVG perhaps?
#3211 [22:22] <infectedspawn> ok that worked thank you
#3212 [22:23] <Doomy098> avast, but i did a full defense drop
#3213 [22:23] <Doomy098> turned all things off
#3214 [22:23] * GreyVulpine scratches head
#3214 [22:23] <Zpectre> GreyVulpine, I have located my problem
#3215 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Version of java?
#3216 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Zpectre - Do tell
#3217 [22:23] <Doomy098> an tested the different folder on 3 seperate drives an via desktop, none change the situation
#3218 [22:23] <Zpectre> Anti Virus quarentined minecraft.jar
#3219 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Ahh....
#3220 [22:23] <Doomy098> 6.30 java
#3221 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> What AV?
#3222 [22:24] <Zpectre> Bullguard
#3223 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> That's a new one for me
#3224 [22:24] <Zpectre> disabled my AV and relaunched minecraft without problems
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#3226 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Thanks for letting me know
#3227 [22:24] <Doomy098> is it possible to get an updated jar file?
#3228 [22:24] <fat_apple> hi
#3229 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Doomy098 - Updated jar file for...
#3230 [22:24] <Doomy098> or something that has the files i can copy/paste into wherever
#3231 [22:24] <fat_apple> anybody knows how to make infinite lava in 1.1? single player survival
#3232 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> fat_apple - Nope
#3233 [22:25] <Doomy098> jar that launches minecraft
#3234 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Doomy098 - Only through the launcher
#3235 [22:25] <Doomy098> so even if someone else did the download they can't find the updated files to share?
#3236 [22:25] <Zpectre> GreyVulpine: my AV claims theres a "Trojan.Script.474570" in minecraft.jar
#3237 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> It's against Mojang's Terms of service to distribute minecraft files
#3238 [22:26] <Doomy098> but yet the jar i got is from here.. an they don't supply that
#3239 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Zpectre - Strange, but not uncommon. Many AVs flag various files from mojang as false positives
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#3241 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Doomy098 - What jar?
#3242 [22:26] <Zpectre> I'll see if I cant noticy the Bullguard team that its false, but thanks for you help =)
#3243 [22:27] <Zpectre> notify*
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#3245 [22:27] <Doomy098> the mod'd jar to allow me to play as the exe won't launch, it makes a crash sound an never opens
#3246 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Erm.. hmm.
#3247 [22:28] * GreyVulpine prods Wug
#3247 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> I think you might have used the one from Wug, but let me check
#3248 [22:33] <Doomy098> prolly
#3249 [22:33] <Doomy098> something about the bot that normally gives it out was down the day i got it
#3250 [22:34] <Wug> yeah that would probably be it
#3251 [22:34] <Wug> what is it doing?
#3252 [22:34] <Doomy098> can't download the 1.1 update
#3253 [22:34] <Doomy098> 2nd download tick hangs
#3254 [22:34] <Doomy098> no errors nothing
#3255 [22:34] <Doomy098> just sits there
#3256 [22:35] <Doomy098> i left it for a hour while i went to eat, came back still hanging
#3257 [22:35] <Doomy098> full defense drop, no change, different folders, no change
#3258 [22:36] <Doomy098> gonna see what the web version does
#3259 [22:37] <Doomy098> well for whatever reason the web version appears to update the game
#3260 [22:38] <Doomy098> but it leaves this white square on the screen
#3261 [22:38] <Doomy098> if i click it, it takes me to some language option stuff
#3262 [22:39] <Doomy098> well thx in the meantime, gtg help in rl bbl
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#3264 [22:43] <Mr_Pryor> http://pastebin.com/ijp198wM
#3265 [22:44] <Mr_Pryor> Im trying to use my 5th mouse button ingame for ptt Sometimes its just pressing esc sometimes it crashs me with that error. How can i fix this problem?
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#3267 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Mr_Pryor - Running 1.0.0 still?
#3268 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Mr_Pryor - This problem was fixed in 1.0.1 of the server
#3269 [22:53] <Mr_Pryor> @GreyVulpine: How can i fix when i use my 5th mouse button it opens game menu?
#3270 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Mr_Pryor - It opens the game menu? How? Do you have it set in your mouse's options?
#3271 [22:54] <Wug> I'm not sure you can. minecraft wasnt designed with 5 mouse buttons in mind
#3272 [22:55] <Mr_Pryor> Im using it for teamspeak ptt
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#3274 [22:57] <TrueCapitalistBrony> http://www.blogtalkradio.com/9-volt/2012/01/13/true-capitalist-brony--first-episode
#3275 [22:57] <TrueCapitalistBrony> Show starts on 3.
#3276 [22:59] <Mr_Pryor> Oh also my middle mouse button crashs my mc.
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#3279 [23:07] <pacogutierrez> GreyVulpine
#3280 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#3281 [23:08] <pacogutierrez> Remember when you told me to ask for help on risucraft?
#3282 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#3283 [23:08] <pacogutierrez> InsanityBringer said this was the first time he had a case like mine
#3284 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> Erm..
#3285 [23:09] <pacogutierrez> Same did Risugami
#3286 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Well, #risucraft are the modloader people.. so if they have no idea..
#3287 [23:11] <pacogutierrez> It's a serious problem with my client.
#3288 [23:11] <pacogutierrez> Well, that's what the error log showed and what they think
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#3292 [23:17] <DataSearcher> Hello I am enquiring about minecraft having a problem
#3293 [23:17] <DataSearcher> Can anyone respond to my issue?
#3294 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> Perpahs
#3295 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> er, perhaps
#3296 [23:19] <DataSearcher> The problem I am having with minecraft/java is when playing minecraft for a while
#3297 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> And what happens?
#3298 [23:19] <DataSearcher> it will flood outbound on port 80
#3299 [23:19] <DataSearcher> I've check for viruses
#3300 [23:19] <DataSearcher> with about 9 Av's
#3301 [23:19] <DataSearcher> List:
#3302 [23:19] <DataSearcher> Kaspersky Internet Security
#3303 [23:19] <pacogutierrez> Those 9AV can conflict with eachother, lol
#3304 [23:19] <DataSearcher> Norton Eraser tool
#3305 [23:20] <DataSearcher> Kaspersky Virus removal tool
#3306 [23:20] <DataSearcher> Sophos Virus removal tool
#3307 [23:20] <pacogutierrez> An anti virus can pick up another antivirus scanner as a virus
#3308 [23:20] <DataSearcher> They are Run once only files
#3309 [23:20] <DataSearcher> and are not real time systems I do not believe they can conflict at all
#3310 [23:21] <DataSearcher> All on HTTP port.
#3311 [23:21] <DataSearcher> And it's going to the IP
#3312 [23:21] <DataSearcher> 207.171.185-189.200
#3313 [23:21] <DataSearcher> Which is amazon
#3314 [23:21] <pacogutierrez> Actually, they can
#3315 [23:22] <pacogutierrez> If they are checking the same port and same Ip an object and stuff, they can
#3316 [23:22] <DataSearcher> I did not run them all at once
#3317 [23:22] <pacogutierrez> Then nvm
#3318 [23:22] <DataSearcher> I'd Pause Kaspersky
#3319 [23:23] <DataSearcher> then run them.
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#3321 [23:23] <DataSearcher> One at a time
#3322 [23:23] <DataSearcher> Still turned up nothing....
#3323 [23:23] <DataSearcher> GreyVupline?
#3324 [23:23] <pacogutierrez> Bye guys. Good night
#3325 [23:23] <pacogutierrez> Bye guys. Good night
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#3327 [23:23] <DataSearcher> GreyVulpine?
#3328 [23:23] <DataSearcher> Got any ideas what's going on?
#3329 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I have no idea..
#3330 [23:24] <DataSearcher> :/
#3331 [23:24] <DataSearcher> I posted to the forums
#3332 [23:26] <DataSearcher> Someone had told me they put BlackShades on this Pc but how can they
#3333 [23:26] <DataSearcher> minecraft isn't P2P?
#3334 [23:26] <DataSearcher> is it?
#3335 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> It isn't
#3336 [23:26] <DataSearcher> ok....
#3337 [23:27] <DataSearcher> I hope this isn't a PEBKAC error....
#3338 [23:28] <DataSearcher> GreyVulpine?
#3339 [23:28] <DataSearcher> You know what a PEBKAC Is right?
#3340 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#3341 [23:28] <DataSearcher> k
#3342 [23:28] <DataSearcher> techy?
#3343 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Number of years in tech support.
#3344 [23:28] <DataSearcher> ah k
#3345 [23:29] <DataSearcher> Still why would s3 spam me?
#3346 [23:29] <Ketsueki> AKA an id10t error
#3347 [23:29] <DataSearcher> Yeah but it's a disputable error.
#3348 [23:30] <DataSearcher> idiot is a very specific word.
#3349 [23:30] <DataSearcher> I think naivity has a lot to do with it.
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#3355 [23:46] <DataSearcher> Bugs....bugs..
#3356 [23:46] <DataSearcher> and more bugs!!!
#3357 [23:46] <DataSearcher> Minecraft is crawling with them!
#3358 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, well, nothing new there.
#3359 [23:52] <DataSearcher> Why?
#3360 [23:52] <DataSearcher> Why does it have so many bugs?
#3361 [23:53] <DataSearcher> Minecraft likes to gobble RAM
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#3363 [23:55] <DataSearcher> Wow I just hacked the minecraft FOV...
#3364 [23:55] <DataSearcher> I bumped it upto 14470
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#3366 [23:58] <Fangedgameer> I downloaded the 64-bit graphics card accelerator, is there anything else I need to do?