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#2 [00:09] <Fangedgameer> GreyVulpine?
#3 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> only to install it
#4 [00:09] <Fangedgameer> After the restart am I good to go?
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#6 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#7 [00:11] <Fangedgameer> What exactly does it do, the accelertator?
#8 [00:12] <DataSearcher> Probably overclocks
#9 [00:12] <DataSearcher> = more heat
#10 [00:12] <Fangedgameer> ...
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#12 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't. Wug gave you an updated video driver for your card
#13 [00:13] <Fangedgameer> So...?
#14 [00:13] <Fangedgameer> Its up-to-date
#15 [00:14] <BustedMine> Good Evening All, I'm trying to get some help on a gift code and I've tried emailing Mojang and the official forums. Can anyone help?
#16 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> Install it, reboot, be thankful you are able to run minecraft at all on an integrated intel card
#17 [00:14] <Fangedgameer> GreyVulpine Very true
#18 [00:14] <Fangedgameer> Alright, later
#19 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> BustedMine - What kind of help?
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#21 [00:22] <social> Ok, this may be a newb question but there is all sorts of conflicting info on the forums so its not entirely clear. What i am looking for is a 1.0.0 server jar as well as a 1.0.0 client jar.
#22 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Not possible
#23 [00:22] <social> really ?
#24 [00:22] <social> Seems extremely shortsighted
#25 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> It is against Mojang's Terms of Service for users to distribute older versions of files
#26 [00:23] <social> theres no ways to get it from mojang themselves?
#27 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#28 [00:23] <social> Not even a downgrader for the server version ?
#29 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> There exists no such thing
#30 [00:23] <social> wow
#31 [00:24] <social> I realize theres no mojang affiliation here but can someone explain why that is a good idea? if anyone knows?
#32 [00:24] <social> atleast why they have taken that stance?
#33 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> First off, it prevents people from using older buggy versions that newer versions have fixed. If people distribute older .jars, Mojang can not assert that it is malware/virus free.
#34 [00:25] <social> I get the whole distribute thing
#35 [00:25] <social> that makes sense mojang should have the only rights to distribute
#36 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> They explicitly say in the ToS, that only Mojang themself, is allowed to distribute files
#37 [00:26] <social> that makes sense
#38 [00:26] <social> I just dont quite understand the policy against older stable builds to be relased by mojang themselves
#39 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> "stable" is relative.
#40 [00:26] <social> thats the case with any software offering
#41 [00:28] <social> The ironic thing is this motivates people to go underground to get server jars. At any rate thank you for answering my question though it was not the answer i wanted.
#42 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> That's up to them to decide to get .jars elsewhere.
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#44 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> We have seen malware-infested .jars
#45 [00:29] <social> yeah of that i have no doubt
#46 [00:29] <helpmeplease> how can I fix my minecraft not updating?
#47 [00:30] <helpmeplease> Guys
#48 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> helpmeplease - What happens?
#49 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#50 [00:30] <helpmeplease> I goto update it to 1.1 and itll start downloading and just randomly freeze.
#51 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> Randomly freeze how?
#52 [00:30] <DataSearcher> Simple IDEA make a small piece of code that automatically makes minecraft backups on a clients PC
#53 [00:31] <DataSearcher> and integrate it into minecraft
#54 [00:31] <helpmeplease> I tried deleting .minecraft and my launcher and it still doesnt update to download all the files
#55 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> helpmeplease - At what point does it freeze?
#56 [00:31] <helpmeplease> One sec ill check
#57 [00:32] <DataSearcher> GreyVulpine?
#58 [00:32] <DataSearcher> is that a stupid idea?
#59 [00:32] <helpmeplease> Retreiving lwjgl.jar 5%
#60 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> helpmeplease - What AV software do you run?
#61 [00:32] <DataSearcher> A file that automatically is made when minecraft is loaded
#62 [00:32] <helpmeplease> Thats where it stops.
#63 [00:32] <DataSearcher> it instantly backs itself up
#64 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> DataSearcher - I really couldn't care less.
#65 [00:32] <helpmeplease> Whats AV stand for..
#66 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> Antivirus
#67 [00:32] <helpmeplease> AVG
#68 [00:33] <DataSearcher> ^ :/
#69 [00:33] <helpmeplease> Is that why its not working?
#70 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#71 [00:33] <helpmeplease> Never had a problem before :/
#72 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> AVG's been known to do this. Go into AVG's options, turn off linkscanner
#73 [00:33] <helpmeplease> should I try disabling it?
#74 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> Then try minecraft again
#75 [00:34] <DataSearcher> Also get a good AV
#76 [00:34] <DataSearcher> http://www.kaspersky.com/
#77 [00:34] <DataSearcher> or
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#79 [00:34] <DataSearcher> http://www.eset.com/
#80 [00:34] <helpmeplease> never heard of either of those
#81 [00:34] <helpmeplease> :P
#82 [00:34] <DataSearcher> :S
#83 [00:35] <helpmeplease> I disabled linkscanner. still froze.
#84 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> helpmeplease - Do a force update in the launcher
#85 [00:35] <DataSearcher> http://www.pcmag.com/image_popup/0,1871,iid=323803,00.asp
#86 [00:35] <DataSearcher> Read that helpme
#87 [00:36] <helpmeplease> force update made it stop at 0% lol
#88 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> helpmeplease - Try turning off AVG entirely, then run minecraft
#89 [00:37] <helpmeplease> lemme figure out how do to that. sec. lol
#90 [00:37] <DataSearcher> omg wow.
#91 [00:37] <DataSearcher> Boo wow Kaspersky is getting bad...
#92 [00:39] <DataSearcher> Wow Web-Root is top in Antivirus capability..
#93 [00:40] <helpmeplease> lol it works
#94 [00:40] <helpmeplease> idk what i disabled.. something in avg tho
#95 [00:40] <helpmeplease> thank you guys so much
#96 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, used to be just linkscanner in AVG
#97 [00:41] * GreyVulpine kicks AVG
#97 [00:41] <helpmeplease> avg doesnt bother me really, works good for me
#98 [00:42] <helpmeplease> doesnt really cause problem
#99 [00:42] <helpmeplease> s
#100 [00:42] <helpmeplease> but uh yeah thanks guys
#101 [00:42] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#101 [00:48] <DataSearcher> GreyVulpine?
#102 [00:48] <DataSearcher> What AV do you use if any?
#103 [00:49] <DataSearcher> GreyVulpine?
#104 [00:49] <DataSearcher> What AV do you use if any?
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#110 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> DataSearcher - Sorry, I use Eset's NOD32
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#112 [00:58] <arisspark> Hello, I've pyrchased a gift code on Mon.9th, to give it to a friend. The Credit Card Debit was successful, and the gift code arrived soon after. The problem is that when my friend tries to retreive it, he gets the answer that the code is being used by another
#113 [00:59] <arisspark> ..but I didn't retreive the code, as I want to give it as a present!
#114 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> arisspark - Check your profile page, the gift code should show up there. Make sure it hasn't been marked as redeemed
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#116 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> Once you've confirmed it hasn't, try copying it directly from your profile page, and emailing him with it. Make sure he's copying/pasting from the email, rather than typing it
#117 [01:00] <pudgetta> for some reason minecraft keeps freezing on me. anyone have any clue why?
#118 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> pudgetta - Freezing how?
#119 [01:00] <arisspark> Of course I checked it, and it hasn't been redeemed!
#120 [01:01] <pudgetta> ill be playing and it will just randomly freeze
#121 [01:01] <pudgetta> only thing i can do it hit esc and close the window
#122 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> pudgetta - Try uninstalling/reinstalling java
#123 [01:01] <pudgetta> ok. ill give it a shot
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#128 [01:08] <mib_cnqg7c> just reinstalled java, played for maybe 1 minute and it froze again
#129 [01:10] <mib_cnqg7c> anyone here?
#130 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_cnqg7c - What version of java are you running?
#131 [01:10] <mib_cnqg7c> im guessing it was the lasest verion
#132 [01:10] <mib_cnqg7c> version
#133 [01:10] <mib_cnqg7c> latest
#134 [01:10] <mib_cnqg7c> says Java 6 Update 30
#135 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Have you made sure your other drivers are up to date as well?
#136 [01:12] <mib_cnqg7c> should be. bought the computer 2 days ago :/
#137 [01:14] <mib_cnqg7c> person on here earlier got me to do the whole dxdiag thing and couldnt help me
#138 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> What operating system?
#139 [01:14] <mib_cnqg7c> windows
#140 [01:14] <mib_cnqg7c> computer has nvidia geforce gtx 560m gpu
#141 [01:15] <mib_cnqg7c> guy earlier said he wasnt familiar with it so couldnt help me
#142 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#143 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Don't suppose this is an nvidia optimus system, with the dual video cards?
#144 [01:16] <mib_cnqg7c> says with optimus yeah
#145 [01:16] <arisspark> OK, I sent an e-mail again to a friend, we 'll try again! Thanx
#146 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_cnqg7c - Could you try these instuctions: http://josoft.net/post/2011/01/18/Minecraft-on-your-Nvidia-Optimus-laptop.aspx
#147 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_cnqg7c - Because it's an optimus system, java defaults to the low-powered integrated intel card for video, instead of your nvidia card
#148 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> WIth those instructions, you'll be telling your computer to use the discrete video card for minecraft, instead of the low-powered intel one
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#153 [01:25] <Calinou> mib_cnqg7c: 64 bit computer I presume?
#154 [01:25] <Calinou> install 64 bit java.
#155 [01:25] <Calinou> and also, what grey said
#156 [01:25] <mib_cnqg7c> im not even sure if its 64 bit to be honest
#157 [01:25] <mib_cnqg7c> just did what that website told me to do. gonna try playing now
#158 [01:25] <Calinou> all recent computers that are not netbooks are 64 bit
#159 [01:26] <Calinou> mib_cnqg7c: you WILL run out of RAM often if you use 32 bit java on a 64 bit system
#160 [01:26] <Calinou> http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml
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#163 [01:28] <yortman1> Hey can somebody tell me the location of the spawn eggs in the minecraft.jar? they aren't working on my texture pack
#164 [01:29] <Calinou> yortman1: gui/items.png
#165 [01:29] <Calinou> the spawner eggs are close to the cauldron/brewing stand textures
#166 [01:29] <Calinou> they are also colored by the game, not you
#167 [01:29] <Calinou> so the egg texture must stay white
#168 [01:29] <yortman1> k thanks ill check there
#169 [01:29] <Calinou> the game will color it - example: green for creepers
#170 [01:31] <yortman1> okay i found the egg.. whats the icon underneath it.. that looks all broken
#171 [01:34] <Doomy098> i just wanna say before i go mess with 1.1 all ya'll usin avg need to switch to avast, google if u don't trust me, peace
#172 [01:35] <Wug> yortman1: try reverting to the default
#173 [01:35] <yortman1> its cool guys i got it, thanks
#174 [01:35] <Wug> revert back when you have memorized which ones you need
#175 [01:35] <Wug> maybe edit the pack yourself
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#178 [01:46] <Belaim> Can I get help for my server here? :/
#179 [01:47] <Belaim> Before the update I had 2 of my friends playing on my server without any problems, ports were forwarded! and ARE forwarded
#180 [01:48] <Belaim> Now after the update they get the classic Timed out
#181 [01:48] <Belaim> Ive had 4 more friends try and the same for them, I have not change any settings whatsoever AND the ports are open both ways
#182 [01:49] <Belaim> First connection after server restart said Disconnected (bacause of long connection time?) something liek that , but after that everyoe just pop up and says disconnected
#183 [01:49] <Belaim> would be so glad if anyone could halp, and no Im not using hamachi, and they are not on my network
#184 [01:50] <Omega_Guardian> hm. That was sudden :P Dungeon Defenders level scale goes up slowly, then suddenly from 70 to 71 it's a 30% jump :P
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#186 [01:59] <Neillithan> what method do you guys prefer to backup your minecraft servers?
#187 [02:01] <tyteen4a03> Neillithan: There isn't really any method other than copy and paste...
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#189 [02:08] <t3hkid> Do you know why i still cant download 1.1?
#190 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> No.
#191 [02:09] <t3hkid> Cause its still stuck on Done Loading
#192 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> Operating system?
#193 [02:11] <Scott> tyteen4a03: sure there is.
#194 [02:11] <Scott> you could use Time Machine
#195 [02:11] <Scott> (or a Time Machine clone)
#196 [02:11] <tyteen4a03> Scott: ?
#197 [02:11] <Scott> Or… any other method of backing up files.
#198 [02:11] <tyteen4a03> oh
#199 [02:13] <Wug> WHATS THIS 32 BIT JAVA
#200 [02:13] <Wug> how did that get on my computer
#201 [02:15] * Wug troubleshoots self
#201 [02:15] <tyteen4a03> troubleshooting a Wug is dangerous sir
#202 [02:15] <Wug> how did j6u20 get on my computer
#203 [02:15] <Wug> I think I can handle it
#204 [02:16] <Wug> last time I used windows, java was on 6u27 :P
#205 [02:16] <tyteen4a03> hidden release? :P
#206 [02:16] <Wug> huh?
#207 [02:17] <t3hkid> Tyteen4a03 I stilll cant get minecraft 1.1
#208 [02:17] <tyteen4a03> maybe you did install 6u20 before, and it hid itself to scare you today
#209 [02:17] <Wug> t3hkid: have you tried force updating
#210 [02:17] <tyteen4a03> he did
#211 [02:17] <Wug> I had to force update to get it to download
#212 [02:17] <t3hkid> Yea Wug i have
#213 [02:18] <Wug> t3hkid: what happens if you try force updating
#214 [02:18] <t3hkid> Gets Stuck on Done Loading
#215 [02:18] <Wug> :j
#216 [02:18] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#217 [02:18] <Wug> :ts/launcher > t3hkid
#218 [02:18] <WugBot> t3hkid: (ts/launcher) Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#219 [02:18] <WugBot> t3hkid: (ts/launcher) Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#220 [02:18] <Wug> :j7
#221 [02:18] <WugBot> j7: You can try java 7 here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-7u1-download-513652.html
#222 [02:19] <Wug> ;~ j7 You can try java 7 here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-7u2-download-1377135.html
#223 [02:19] <WugBot> Done.
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#225 [02:20] <mib_lku4ts> I have a quick question.
#226 [02:20] * Wug gets the jdk
#226 [02:20] <Wug> mib_lku4ts: fire away
#227 [02:21] <mib_lku4ts> I'm trying to update minecraft to 1.1, but it gets stuck at a random percent while downloading lwgjr.jar.
#228 [02:21] <mib_lku4ts> I have tried to force update.
#229 [02:21] <t3hkid> Wug i got the log
#230 [02:21] <t3hkid> oh soz
#231 [02:21] <mib_lku4ts> I also tried deleting /.minecraft and redownloading the .exe from the website.
#232 [02:21] <mib_lku4ts> No luck.
#233 [02:22] <Wug> t3hkid: ok, pastebin it and send me the link
#234 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> mib_lku4ts - disable your AV and try again
#235 [02:22] <mib_lku4ts> kk
#236 [02:23] <t3hkid> wug http://pastebin.com/5tMcvPX2
#237 [02:23] <Wug> t3hkid: have you tried redownloading the launcher
#238 [02:23] <t3hkid> Yea
#239 [02:24] <mib_lku4ts> GreyVulpine: lolz i feel like a retard
#240 [02:24] <Wug> t3hkid: have you tried reinstalling java
#241 [02:24] <t3hkid> No
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#243 [02:24] <Wug> mib_lku4ts: make a note of this, and if you have to redownload minecraft for some reason, remember to turn your AV off
#244 [02:24] <t3hkid> Which one i got two
#245 [02:25] <markos_polo> how do you reatart minecraft, while keeping your worlds?
#246 [02:25] <t3hkid> What i can unistall
#247 [02:25] <markos_polo> *restart
#248 [02:25] <Wug> t3hkid: why not
#249 [02:25] <t3hkid> I got
#250 [02:26] <t3hkid> Java(tm) 6 Update 30 and Java(TM) Update 22
#251 [02:26] <markos_polo> please, it's not working
#252 [02:26] <Wug> t3hkid: why cant you uninstall them
#253 [02:26] <t3hkid> i can wondering which one in need to unistall
#254 [02:26] <Wug> t3hkid: both
#255 [02:27] <Wug> also do you have a 32 bit computer, or a 64 bit one
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#257 [02:27] <merked_1> Hello
#258 [02:27] <merked_1> Can someone help me with account login? In private.
#259 [02:28] <t3hkid> I have 32 bit
#260 [02:28] <Wug> t3hkid: ok
#261 [02:30] <Wug> have you gotten them uninstalled yet
#262 [02:30] <Belaim> Can I get help for my server here? :/ Before the update I had 2 of my friends playing on my server without any problems, ports were forwarded! and ARE forwarded .Now after the update they get the classic Timed out . Ive had 4 more friends try and the same for them, I have not change any settings whatsoever AND the ports are open both ways .
#263 [02:31] <Wug> Belaim: make sure your internal ip address has not changed
#264 [02:31] <Wug> usually when port forwarding stops working for no reason, this is what has happened
#265 [02:31] <Wug> merked_1: pm
#266 [02:31] <Belaim> what if it has?
#267 [02:31] <Belaim> I just change port forward to that adress?
#268 [02:31] <Wug> Belaim: open your router settings and change the ip to the new address
#269 [02:31] <t3hkid> Got new java ill use the client you gave me
#270 [02:32] <Belaim> The thing is when I test my ports it shows them as open
#271 [02:32] <Wug> Belaim: just try it
#272 [02:32] <Belaim> My router doesnt set the internal ip to the port setting, it sets the computer name instead
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#274 [02:33] <Belaim> meaning no matter what my internal ip is, my computers name will still be the same
#275 [02:33] <Wug> ;check Belaim
#276 [02:33] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 90-231-92-188-no142.business.telia.com:25565 (Timed out)
#277 [02:33] <Wug> what is the address
#278 [02:33] <Wug> and port
#279 [02:33] <Belaim> Ill try to remove the forward ports and open them angain and se if that helps
#280 [02:34] <Belaim> The server is down now due to the problems, and im not at home now so I can start it either
#281 [02:34] <Wug> bleh
#282 [02:34] <Belaim> :/
#283 [02:34] <Belaim> I used the standard port 25565 ?
#284 [02:35] <Wug> come back later when its online so we can test it
#285 [02:35] <Belaim> will do! I didnt knwo this chat excisted until now :D
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#287 [02:36] <Belaim> Thanks, and ill show up here when Im at home again!
#288 [02:36] <Kaito> are mega trees more common since 1.0?
#289 [02:36] <Kaito> i've had like...5% of my trees grow to mega trees
#290 [02:36] <Kaito> and I hate mega trees
#291 [02:36] <Wug> Kaito: I doubt it
#292 [02:36] <Kaito> alright, then im just being "lucky"
#293 [02:36] <Wug> use birch
#294 [02:36] <Kaito> I dont like birch, they grow too tall
#295 [02:36] <Wug> no they dont :)
#296 [02:37] <Wug> you can stand on the ground and chop down the whole tree now
#297 [02:37] <t3hkid> wug i have the same problem still
#298 [02:37] <Kaito> O.o
#299 [02:37] <Wug> and which one do you hate more, birch trees or giant derp trees :P
#300 [02:37] <Kaito> i guess
#301 [02:37] <Wug> :tv > t3hkid
#302 [02:37] <WugBot> t3hkid: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#303 [02:37] <WugBot> t3hkid: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#304 [02:38] <t3hkid> well soz g2g
#305 [02:38] <Kaito> 64+38...102 brick blocks
#306 [02:38] <Kaito> i need more :P
#307 [02:38] <Wug> the recipe was changed in 1.0, theyre much cheaper now
#308 [02:39] <Kaito> I meant, clay bricks
#309 [02:39] <Kaito> not the stone
#310 [02:39] <Wug> yeah, I know
#311 [02:40] <Kaito> o..k..
#312 [02:40] <Kaito> I'm going to build my enchantment library out of those bricks
#313 [02:40] <Wug> maybe
#314 [02:40] <Wug> I might be wrong
#315 [02:40] <Kaito> the recipe is as it always was
#316 [02:41] <Kaito> it's just that clay is SUPER common
#317 [02:41] <Wug> i suppose its just that
#318 [02:41] <Wug> oh well, still counts
#319 [02:41] <Kaito> yup
#320 [02:41] <Kaito> My house was just solid wood...now it's a mix of wood and stone brick
#321 [02:41] <Kaito> and looks A BUNCH better
#322 [02:42] <Kaito> not to mention the incredible amount of furnaces on the 2nd level... :P
#323 [02:43] <Kaito> 107, give or take
#324 [02:45] <Kaito> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/50093375/MinecraftHouse.jpg <-- Old house
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#326 [02:46] <Kaito> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/50093375/MinecraftHouse2.jpg <-- new house
#327 [02:48] <Scott> lol here is my house: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9631803/Screenshots/lpdz.png
#328 [02:48] <Kaito> holy windows batman!
#329 [02:48] <Kaito> I still need to expand my wheat farm
#330 [02:48] <Kaito> it's still on my "first day" phase :P
#331 [02:48] * GreyVulpine snrks
#331 [02:50] <Kaito> and what Kaito household would be complete without the furnace room...http://dl.dropbox.com/u/50093375/MinecraftHouse2Furnace.jpg
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#333 [02:50] <Kaito> 107 in that room
#334 [02:50] <Kaito> plus 6 on the next level
#335 [02:55] <Wug> :o id better leave
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#339 [03:13] <Kaito> i...I thinks swamp biomes tend to spawn more super trees
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#341 [03:26] <flabbergaster> anyone else having troubles starting the game?
#342 [03:26] <flabbergaster> after patch
#343 [03:26] <Kaito> not i
#344 [03:26] <Kaito> works fine after 1.1
#345 [03:26] <flabbergaster> i get this
#346 [03:26] <flabbergaster> java.lang.NullPointerException at java.io.Reader.<init>(Unknown Source) at java.io.InputStreamReader.<init>(Unknown Source) at abn.a(SourceFile:62) at abn.a(SourceFile:99) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.a(SourceFile:254) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:648) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
#347 [03:27] <Kaito> not sure, sorry :/
#348 [03:27] <flabbergaster> :s
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#350 [03:30] <bAdStAr> hello?
#351 [03:30] <Kaito> hi
#352 [03:30] <bAdStAr> can anyone help me?
#353 [03:30] <WugBot> bAdStAr: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#354 [03:30] <bAdStAr> when i open minecraft i logged in and the file dosent update x.x
#355 [03:31] <bAdStAr> its stuck at 0.01kb per sec
#356 [03:31] <Kaito> so, you cant update minecraft?
#357 [03:31] <bAdStAr> yea
#358 [03:31] <bAdStAr> :(
#359 [03:31] <Kaito> have you tried exiting and retrying?
#360 [03:31] <bAdStAr> yes
#361 [03:32] <bAdStAr> you have any solutions?
#362 [03:32] <Kaito> yes, stand by
#363 [03:32] <bAdStAr> ok
#364 [03:32] <Kaito> you konw how to get to your minecraft folder?
#365 [03:32] <bAdStAr> ...
#366 [03:32] <bAdStAr> i think so
#367 [03:33] <Kaito> ok
#368 [03:33] <bAdStAr> is it %appdate%
#369 [03:33] <Kaito> %appdata%
#370 [03:33] <bAdStAr> appdata*
#371 [03:33] <Kaito> data, not date
#372 [03:33] <Kaito> yes
#373 [03:33] <bAdStAr> i know
#374 [03:33] <bAdStAr> but what do you do
#375 [03:34] <Kaito> back up your /bin folder (copy it to, say, your desktop), then delete it, and try redownloading
#376 [03:34] <Kaito> BACKING UP IS IMPORTANT
#377 [03:34] <bAdStAr> how do you back it up
#378 [03:34] <Kaito> back up your /bin folder (copy it to, say, your desktop), then delete it, and try redownloading
#379 [03:35] <bAdStAr> redownloade what?
#380 [03:35] <Kaito> you backed up your /bin folder, right?
#381 [03:35] <Kaito> and now deleted it?
#382 [03:35] <Kaito> er
#383 [03:35] <Kaito> hold on
#384 [03:35] <Kaito> do you have a second copy of /bin somewhere else on your computer?
#385 [03:35] <bAdStAr> whats /bin
#386 [03:36] * Kaito facepalms
#386 [03:36] <Kaito> you went to %appdata%, yes?
#387 [03:36] <bAdStAr> yes
#388 [03:36] <Kaito> double click the folder .minecraft
#389 [03:36] <bAdStAr> and .minecraft
#390 [03:36] <Kaito> see a folder called bin?
#391 [03:36] <bAdStAr> yea
#392 [03:36] <Kaito> copy that and paste it on your desktop
#393 [03:36] <bAdStAr> i did
#394 [03:36] <Kaito> good
#395 [03:37] <bAdStAr> now what do you do
#396 [03:37] <Kaito> Now delete the bin folder in .minecraft
#397 [03:37] <bAdStAr> yep
#398 [03:37] <Kaito> now restart minecraft
#399 [03:38] <bAdStAr> wtf dosent work
#400 [03:38] <bAdStAr> i cant even logg in
#401 [03:38] <Kaito> ok
#402 [03:39] <bAdStAr> so what do i do now?
#403 [03:39] <Kaito> now, copy the bin folder from your desktop back into .minecraft
#404 [03:39] <Kaito> always be sure you have a copy of the original bin folder somewhere
#405 [03:39] <Kaito> once thats done, go into bin, and delete minecraft.jar
#406 [03:39] <Kaito> and then retry
#407 [03:40] <bAdStAr> wheres minecraft.jar?
#408 [03:40] <Kaito> you're in the bin folder, right?
#409 [03:41] <bAdStAr> yep
#410 [03:41] <Kaito> see a file called minecraft?
#411 [03:41] <bAdStAr> yes
#412 [03:41] <Kaito> this is all inside the .minecraft folder, right? Not the one on your desktop
#413 [03:42] <bAdStAr> yes
#414 [03:42] <Kaito> ok
#415 [03:42] <Kaito> delete the file called minecraft
#416 [03:42] <Kaito> and then try again
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#418 [03:43] <bAdStAr> i cant even connect to minecraft
#419 [03:44] <Kaito> that would be because minecraft.net is down
#420 [03:44] <Kaito> :P
#421 [03:44] <bAdStAr> and it says (Not downloaded)
#422 [03:44] <bAdStAr> its not down
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#424 [03:44] <bAdStAr> t?
#425 [03:44] <bAdStAr> why is that
#426 [03:45] <bAdStAr> you there?
#427 [03:45] <Kaito> hold on, jeez
#428 [03:45] <bAdStAr> *.
#429 [03:45] <Kaito> so you're saying you can connect to minecraft.net
#430 [03:45] <bAdStAr> no
#431 [03:45] <bAdStAr> it says (not downloaded)
#432 [03:45] <Kaito> I know that
#433 [03:46] <Kaito> that's because, apparently, minecraft.net is down
#434 [03:46] <Kaito> the website
#435 [03:46] <Kaito> which is where the latest versions are downloaded from
#436 [03:46] <bAdStAr> and i cant even play offline!
#437 [03:47] <bAdStAr> :(
#438 [03:47] <Kaito> okay
#439 [03:47] <Kaito> since you cant update
#440 [03:47] <Kaito> go back into .minecraft, and delete the bin folder
#441 [03:47] <Kaito> then drag the one from your desktop back into .minecraft
#442 [03:47] <Kaito> and you can play offline
#443 [03:48] <bAdStAr> oh
#444 [03:48] <bAdStAr> but what does that thing mean
#445 [03:48] <Kaito> what does what thing mean?
#446 [03:49] <bAdStAr> it says not downloaded
#447 [03:49] <Kaito> i know that
#448 [03:49] <Kaito> because it didn't download
#449 [03:49] <Kaito> because the website where you download it from isn't running
#450 [03:49] <bAdStAr> oh...
#451 [03:50] <bAdStAr> but what does the minecraft jar thing do
#452 [03:50] <Kaito> minecraft.jar is the minecraft game
#453 [03:51] <bAdStAr> but i already put minecraft.jar back and still i cant even play offline
#454 [03:52] <bAdStAr> ...
#455 [03:52] <Kaito> what?
#456 [03:53] <bAdStAr> i put already the original file back and it still said it dosent work not even offline
#457 [03:53] <bAdStAr> original file =bin
#458 [03:54] <Kaito> in .minecraft, you see a bin folder
#459 [03:54] <Kaito> double click on that bin folder
#460 [03:54] <bAdStAr> yes
#461 [03:54] <bAdStAr> yes
#462 [03:54] <Kaito> is there a minecraft.jar in there? (im making sure you didn't accidentally nest the two folders)
#463 [03:54] <bAdStAr> yup
#464 [03:56] <bAdStAr> dam
#465 [03:56] <bAdStAr> FUDGE
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#469 [04:07] <nathanreed5> hey can anyone help me please?
#470 [04:08] <nathanreed5> i have opened my client and i have loged in and it turned black and shut off
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#472 [04:09] <nathanreed5> can any one help me please?
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#477 [04:42] <libraryaddict> wa! I cant login!
#478 [04:42] <libraryaddict> ok im out
#479 [04:42] <libraryaddict> oh
#480 [04:42] <libraryaddict> and its logging in
#481 [04:43] <Wug> libraryaddict: did you not read the giant red banner that says "planned maintenance"
#482 [04:43] <libraryaddict> Sure I did
#483 [04:43] <libraryaddict> I still wanted to act the nub
#484 [04:43] <libraryaddict> :)
#485 [04:43] <libraryaddict> They call me irritating
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#488 [04:44] <|Kiikun|> herpaderp
#489 [04:44] <|Kiikun|> RTFGRD?
#490 [04:44] <|Kiikun|> erm.. B. not D
#491 [04:44] <TheNoodle> lol
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#495 [05:03] <DustinDoyle> Is the login system down?
#496 [05:05] <Wug> DustinDoyle: read the giant red banner when you open the client
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#508 [06:08] <eyoxander> i've seen the 1.1 update, it's cool, but the eggs are available for creative mode only or also survival?
#509 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> Creative only
#510 [06:10] <eyoxander> ok :)
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#513 [06:21] <Romney2012> Mitt Romney has the leadership that it will take to turn America's economy around. Read more about his plan to create jobs and put America back to work at http://www.mittromney.com ! Mitt Romney for President 2012!
#514 [06:22] <auscompgeek> yay spam
#515 [06:22] <auscompgeek> I love spam
#516 [06:23] <auscompgeek> anyway, is it just me or has maintenance been done
#517 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> !kb Romney2012
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#529 [07:50] <TobyF> Please help - i have run an update, but ican't log on - its says: there is an error in the update, please contact support. What to do? anyone....?
#530 [07:50] <TobyF> Please help - i have run an update, but ican't log on - its says: there is an error in the update, please contact support. What to do? anyone....?
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#533 [07:51] <TobyF> but how to contact minecrafthelp?
#534 [07:53] <RoulleteX> guys, any of ya having trouble with the chat's colors on multiplayer, after switching to 1.1? :<
#535 [07:53] <RoulleteX> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/939316-11-chat-colors-trouble/
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#537 [07:56] <TobyF> Please help - i have run an update, but ican't log on - its says: there is an error in the update, please contact support. What to do? anyone....?
#538 [08:00] <AureliusM> TobyF: did you click Options Force Update?
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#548 [08:51] <sixnew2> Hello I was wondering if anyone would be able to assist me with some troubleshooting.
#549 [08:52] <sixnew2> i am trying to host a MC server from home but I am having alot of trouble binding the port. I have forwarded the ports correctly and they are open and have checked this
#550 [08:52] <sixnew2> I have even gone as far as disableing my firewall and makeing exceptions for java, mc and the DNS host but i still fail to bind
#551 [08:53] <sixnew2> i left my ip in the config blank and it will not bind ports for my external even tho the ports are open and firewall has exceptions
#552 [08:54] <sixnew2> LAN is only adress it will bind to
#553 [08:57] <clarjon1> It doesn't bind to an ip
#554 [08:57] <clarjon1> it binds to a port
#555 [08:57] <sixnew2> well my ports are open and it wont bind to them =/
#556 [08:57] <clarjon1> are they forwarded properly?
#557 [08:57] <sixnew2> yes i have used canyouseeme and they are open
#558 [08:57] <clarjon1> that means that they are open
#559 [08:58] <clarjon1> that doesn't mean that you're not forwarding to a typo
#560 [08:58] <sixnew2> UDP and TCP 25565 and i followed the guild on the wiki for forarding foprp my router specificly and its correct
#561 [08:58] <sixnew2> guide**
#562 [08:58] <clarjon1> you checked your computer's LAN ip first, yea?
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#564 [08:58] <sixnew2> yea every pc in the house can lan it np
#565 [08:58] <Belaim> Wug still here? :D
#566 [08:59] <Belaim> aww....
#567 [08:59] <clarjon1> and you're absolutely certain that you forwarded it to the proper comp
#568 [08:59] <Belaim> Anyone else who were here 6 hours ago?
#569 [08:59] <sixnew2> very certain
#570 [08:59] <clarjon1> doublecheck anyways :P
#571 [08:59] <Belaim> sounds like six got the same problem as me?
#572 [09:00] <clarjon1> sixnew2: what model of router
#573 [09:00] <sixnew2> I have forwarded ports manually since age of empires days i have setup many servers
#574 [09:00] <sixnew2> 2wire
#575 [09:00] <sixnew2> i have followed the Mc guide for router setup for my router its done correctly
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#577 [09:01] <sixnew2> onlything i can think of is my windows firewall but... i have even gone as far as to make exceptions for porgrams and even turn it off and still wont bind
#578 [09:01] <Belaim> let me guess sixnew, you have had a server up and running and working properly then you updated it and now people gets timeouts?
#579 [09:01] <Wug> Belaim: yes
#580 [09:01] <sixnew2> nope i can get the server to open ports for my external ip address
#581 [09:02] <sixnew2> even tho the ports are forwarded
#582 [09:02] <Wug> ;check Belaim
#583 [09:02] <WugBot> 78-72-89-40-no142.tbcn.telia.com:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Välkommen till Mine-Edsbyn! (0/20)
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#585 [09:02] <Wug> Belaim: you're using minecraft classic?
#586 [09:03] <Wug> or did you get it fixed
#587 [09:03] <Wug> ;check sixnew2
#588 [09:03] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 99.36.232.32:25565 (Timed out)
#589 [09:03] <sixnew2> nope still haveing problems
#590 [09:03] <sixnew2> i been at it all night man i dont know what els to do but ask for help lol
#591 [09:03] <Wug> sixnew2: classic or beta
#592 [09:03] <Wug> uh, release
#593 [09:03] <sixnew2> i have looked at every tutorial and forwarding guide i know there open ....
#594 [09:03] <sixnew2> release
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#596 [09:03] <Wug> have you had it working in the past
#597 [09:04] <clarjon1> Is the minecraft server running right now?
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#599 [09:04] <sixnew2> first time setting up the server from home pc
#600 [09:04] <sixnew2> but i have ran other servers
#601 [09:04] <clarjon1> sixnew2: Is the server actually running?
#602 [09:04] <sixnew2> yea
#603 [09:04] <clarjon1> like, right now?
#604 [09:04] <sixnew2> yes..
#605 [09:05] <clarjon1> and you sure that you didn't typo the port
#606 [09:05] <sixnew2> possitive
#607 [09:05] <clarjon1> making it 25556 or something
#608 [09:05] <Belaim> Wug: nope its survival
#609 [09:05] <clarjon1> or 25655
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#611 [09:05] <Belaim> Wug: No I didnt get it fixed
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#613 [09:05] <sixnew2> 25565
#614 [09:05] <Wug> Belaim: the server seems to be running
#615 [09:06] <Belaim> what?
#616 [09:06] <Wug> are they connecting to the right address?
#617 [09:06] <Wug> ;ip Belaim
#618 [09:06] <WugBot> IP address of Belaim is: 78.72.89.40
#619 [09:06] <Belaim> yes
#620 [09:06] <Wug> the bot can connect
#621 [09:06] <Belaim> try connecting to mine-edsbyn.zapto.org
#622 [09:06] <Wug> ;check mine-edsbyn.zapto.org
#623 [09:06] <WugBot> mine-edsbyn.zapto.org:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Välkommen till Mine-Edsbyn! (0/20)
#624 [09:07] <Belaim> can you login as a normal user as well?
#625 [09:07] <Wug> ... hold on
#626 [09:07] <sixnew2> 99.36.232.32 sixnew2.us.to
#627 [09:07] <sixnew2> my ports are forwarded check em
#628 [09:07] <sixnew2> i leave the ip in the config blank
#629 [09:07] <Wug> ;check sixnew2.us.to
#630 [09:07] <WugBot> sixnew2.us.to:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: A Minecraft Server (0/20)
#631 [09:07] <sixnew2> but it will only allow LAN users to connect
#632 [09:08] <Belaim> Wug: timedout right?
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#634 [09:08] <Wug> havent tried yet
#635 [09:08] <Belaim> someone did
#636 [09:08] <clarjon1> i tried
#637 [09:08] <sixnew2> someoen got in
#638 [09:08] <clarjon1> it hangs when trying to log in
#639 [09:08] <sixnew2> but i cant from a home pc lol
#640 [09:08] <Wug> sixnew2: yours works fine
#641 [09:08] <sixnew2> i cant connect to my own server tho from my network
#642 [09:08] <Belaim> clar exactly
#643 [09:08] <sixnew2> from any pc in my house
#644 [09:09] <Wug> sixnew2: use your local address
#645 [09:09] <Wug> 192.168.something
#646 [09:09] <Wug> its your routers fault
#647 [09:09] <sixnew2> should it make a diffrence tho??
#648 [09:09] <clarjon1> sixnew2: don't use your external DNS fro your LAN
#649 [09:09] <clarjon1> yes it does
#650 [09:09] <clarjon1> it always makes a difference.
#651 [09:09] <clarjon1> use the LAN ip when you're on the LAN
#652 [09:09] <sixnew2> i just assumed that since i coudlent connect from to my external it wouldent let anyone
#653 [09:09] <clarjon1> use the External IP when you're not on the LAN
#654 [09:09] <Wug> Belaim: I can get into yours too
#655 [09:09] <Wug> idk what you're all smoking but your networks work fine
#656 [09:10] <Belaim> can someone else try? cause it wasnt working for clarjon correct?
#657 [09:10] <sixnew2> its workign cuz i can see your recent connection
#658 [09:10] <sixnew2> but its just weird
#659 [09:10] <clarjon1> heh
#660 [09:10] <clarjon1> i couldn't get in cuz of the login servers derping
#661 [09:10] <sixnew2> i thought that i should be able to connect to the server with the same DNS as everyone els
#662 [09:11] <clarjon1> sixnew2: No, you can't
#663 [09:11] <frogonia> Hallo, i tryed to create an account but i havent got a verifyemail
#664 [09:11] <clarjon1> that's why there's the seperation
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#666 [09:11] <sixnew2> well thank you for the confimation that I am not as dumb as i thought i was at setting this up ^^
#667 [09:11] <Belaim> so there is no problem with my server?
#668 [09:13] <Belaim> ?
#669 [09:15] <Belaim> Clarjon you wasnt able to connect to my server correct?
#670 [09:19] <Belaim> why does my server say MEmory use: 47mb (51%) free
#671 [09:19] <Belaim> I got way more ram what kind of memory is it using?
#672 [09:19] <Wug> it doesnt use all of your ram
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#676 [09:20] <ExperimentalWugBot> Allowing user tracking in #minecrafthelp
#677 [09:20] <WugBot> Module not found. Perhaps it isn't loaded?
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#682 [09:21] <PapaMatschi> Hallo jemand hier der Deutsch spricht und auch versteht brauche hilfe
#683 [09:21] <clarjon1> PapaMatschi: English Please
#684 [09:21] <Belaim> I must be able to allow it and use more memory I mean doesnt the server need more?
#685 [09:21] <Wug> :translator > PapaMatschi
#686 [09:21] <WugBot> PapaMatschi: (translator) Google Translate: http://translate.google.com/ FreeTranslation's translator: http://www.freetranslation.com/
#687 [09:21] <WugBot> PapaMatschi: (translator) Freier Übersetzer | Traductor Libre | Traducteur Libre | Fri Översättare
#688 [09:21] <PapaMatschi> sry aber mein englisch ist nicht so gut
#689 [09:22] <Wug> ExperimentalWugBot: module clonewatch responsetype message
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#691 [09:23] <PapaMatschi> I have would ask one and to be sure I did not get is released myself on Wednesday Minecraft per card payment however somehow my Account why
#692 [09:24] <Belaim> wow great translation :)
#693 [09:24] <Wug> computing ...
#694 [09:24] <Wug> PapaMatschi: what is your minecraft username?
#695 [09:24] <PapaMatschi> PapaMatschi
#696 [09:26] <PapaMatschi> why ask you
#697 [09:27] <PapaMatschi> why you ask
#698 [09:28] <|Kiikun|> !paid PapaMatschi
#699 [09:28] * |Kiikun| still doesnt understand
#699 [09:29] <PapaMatschi> yet I input write off me all here in the computer that that that and stood there then that my account myself in the next hours updates
#700 [09:30] <PapaMatschi> From where do you not know paid would have that I?
#701 [09:32] <|Kiikun|> PapaMatschi: if im understanding correctly, you just purchased the game and it hasn't turned premium yet? it sometimes takes a few hours. you can doublecheck that payment was actually taken from your bank/creditcard as well.
#702 [09:33] <|Kiikun|> PapaMatschi: the !paid command tells aubot to check with minecraft.net if a username is premium or not. all the site will return it true or false.
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#704 [09:34] <PapaMatschi> how I said bought it on Wednesday, but I still have no Premium account around Online or Offline play to can and I wait as
#705 [09:34] <clarjon1> PapaMatschi: and how did you pay for it
#706 [09:36] <PapaMatschi> one has writes off himself yes the possibility the mojang the money of the account and so I did not make believe functioned has it however somehow I that it really: - (
#707 [09:38] <clarjon1> PapaMatschi: once Mojang receives the money, it will automatically make your account premium
#708 [09:38] <clarjon1> PapaMatschi: If you are not premium, something has interrupted the money flow
#709 [09:38] <clarjon1> !paid clarjon1
#710 [09:39] <PapaMatschi> and when should that happen? I have it on Wednesday yet made and happened it until today nothing
#711 [09:39] <Wug> clarjon1: do me a favor
#712 [09:40] <Wug> PapaMatschi: call your credit card company and see if they blocked the transaction
#713 [09:40] <PapaMatschi> Do okay you mean because the money goes abroad?
#714 [09:40] <Wug> yes
#715 [09:41] <Wug> clarjon1: clarjon1 clarjon1 clarjon1 clarjon1 clarjon1 clarjon1 clarjon1 clarjon1
#716 [09:41] <Wug> :<
#717 [09:41] <clarjon1> yo wug
#718 [09:41] <Wug> /cycle for me
#719 [09:41] <clarjon1> !sync
#720 [09:41] <clarjon1> !sync
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#723 [09:41] <PapaMatschi> that could be I become it once try
#724 [09:43] <Wug> clarjon1: ok, now part, change your nick, and come back
#725 [09:43] <Wug> in that orde
#726 [09:43] <Wug> in that orde
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#729 [09:43] <PapaMatschi> Should I mean nod change?
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#731 [09:44] <BOFH> nice
#732 [09:44] <Wug> BOFH: ok, you can go back now
#733 [09:44] <Wug> its a feature I'm adding to wugbot
#734 [09:44] <PapaMatschi> Should I mean nod change?
#735 [09:44] <Wug> PapaMatschi: can you phrase that differently? I dont understand
#736 [09:45] <PapaMatschi> Should I change my name?
#737 [09:45] <Wug> clarjon1: it basically watches hostnames and if someone connects from the same host more than once, automatically notifies something
#738 [09:45] <Wug> PapaMatschi: no, I was talking to clarjon1
#739 [09:46] <PapaMatschi> aha okay xD
#740 [09:46] <clarjon1> Wug: Nice :)
#741 [09:46] <PapaMatschi> therefore I call once my bank and ask not posted became once whether that the money
#742 [09:46] <Wug> clarjon1: it doesnt notify if your nick is the same because that would be godawful irritating
#743 [09:47] <Wug> PapaMatschi: you could call the bank, but since you paid by credit card, it might have been them that stopped it
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#747 [09:48] <PapaMatschi> Wug Why that I?
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#749 [09:50] <Wug> PapaMatschi: both companies might have stopped it
#750 [09:51] <PapaMatschi> Wug And why do you think come is that it so?
#751 [09:52] <Wug> PapaMatschi: because I've seen this happen a lot
#752 [09:53] <PapaMatschi> Wug And what do you think can make one there?
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#754 [09:56] <vortex2105> my minecraft crashes every time i play it and restarts my pc
#755 [09:57] <PapaMatschi> Wug And what do you think can make one there?
#756 [09:57] <Wug> vortex2105: update your graphics drivers
#757 [09:57] <Wug> PapaMatschi: what do you mean
#758 [09:57] <Wug> :P stupid translator
#759 [09:58] <PapaMatschi> Wug and what do you think can make one there? because you yes think that the banks at it guilt are
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#762 [10:00] <mib_k3hobp> wssup
#763 [10:00] <mib_k3hobp> is the new server version out?!
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#765 [10:00] <SinZ> yes
#766 [10:01] <SinZ> was out yesterday
#767 [10:01] <mib_k3hobp> finally..
#768 [10:01] <mib_k3hobp> kthanxbye.
#769 [10:01] <PapaMatschi> Wug whats wrong?
#770 [10:02] <Wug> PapaMatschi: like I said, I've seen it happen
#771 [10:03] <PapaMatschi> Wug And what do you think should make I now?
#772 [10:05] <Wug> PapaMatschi: just call them
#773 [10:05] <PapaMatschi> Wug the Bank?
#774 [10:05] <Wug> yes
#775 [10:06] <PapaMatschi> okay i do this
#776 [10:06] <PapaMatschi> Wug thank you
#777 [10:06] <AureliusM> PapaMatschi: Es gibt diskussion ueber Probleme beim kaufen und Hilfe hier : http://minecraft.de/showthread.php?24572-Fragen-zu-Minecraft-kaufen-und-Paypal&highlight=bezahlung
#778 [10:08] <PapaMatschi> AureliusM das problem ist ich habe nicht per Paypal bezahlt
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#780 [10:08] <AureliusM> PapaMatschi: Ah, per Ueberweisung?
#781 [10:09] <AureliusM> PapaMatschi: Dann ja, ruf' dem Bank an, als erste Schritt.
#782 [10:10] <PapaMatschi> AureliusM ich habe das spiel bei der minecraft seite gekauft das minecraft meine kontodaten hat und die es selber abbuchen können aber es ist nix passiert und ich habe es am mittwoch getan
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#786 [10:12] <AureliusM> PapaMatschi: Verstehe. Kann sein dass die Transaktion war einfach gestoppt. Wie Wug hat gesagt. Warum passiert es so, ich hab' keine Ahnung.
#787 [10:13] * Wug asplod
#787 [10:13] <PapaMatschi> AureliusM sollte ich es vllt noch einmal machen aber über eine andere bezahlungsart? ich mein paypal benutze ich nicht wirklich und ja was anderes geht eig. nicht
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#790 [10:16] <EvilWug> IM DOING SCIENCE :>
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#793 [10:16] <NotWug> science :)
#794 [10:17] <xales> Wug: It's !!!SCIENCE!!!
#795 [10:17] <AureliusM> PapaMatschi: Schwer zu sagen. Ich habe auch nicht gewohlt, meine Paypal konto zu nutzen. Ich *glaube* man kann mit Paypal bezahlen, ohne seine eigene Paypal konto nutzen. Nur name und Adresse und Karte Detaile eingeben. (Mit andere Emailadresse) Aber das war ueber 12 Monate vor.
#796 [10:19] <PapaMatschi> AureliusM kann man mojang irgendwie anschreiben oder so das man fragen kann was da jetzt sache ist?
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#801 [10:25] <AureliusM> PapaMatschi: ich glaube mojang kann nicht viel machen in diese Sache. Die nutzen moneybookers und Paypal als Zwischenhändler, so zu sagen. Vielleicht eine email an help@mojang.com ? Aber ich werde nicht viel erwarten.
#802 [10:25] <Sanky> Hello, after updating to 1.1, Minecraft crashes after the Mojang splash: http://pastebin.com/AN7d4yEN
#803 [10:25] <PapaMatschi> AureliusM trotzdem vielen dank
#804 [10:26] <AureliusM> Sanky: try a complete uninstall of Java and reinstall Java 6
#805 [10:27] <AureliusM> ??> Sanky getjava
#806 [10:27] <VoxelHead> Sanky: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
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#809 [10:27] <Sanky> I have 1.6.0_20.
#810 [10:27] <MrVinD> Hi All
#811 [10:27] <Sanky> That's Java 6.
#812 [10:27] <AureliusM> Sanky: Hmm, best to have 1.6.0_30, but have you tried Options Force Update ?
#813 [10:27] <Sanky> I have.
#814 [10:28] <AureliusM> Sanky: Any mods or high def texture packs?
#815 [10:28] <Sanky> It didn't crash before 1.1.
#816 [10:28] <Sanky> That is to say, no.
#817 [10:28] <Kryzz> hi, i'm running a server and updated it to 1.1 today, my friend updated her client and can join but get disconneted after 1-2 mins, server gets message: [INFO] Anvilfury lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
#818 [10:28] <AureliusM> Sanky: So, that means yes mods?
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#820 [10:28] <AureliusM> Sanky: Sorry, typed before saw your answer.
#821 [10:28] <Kryzz> she gets: java exception acess violation
#822 [10:29] <MrVinD> Someone knows how to do server without hamachi, premium and not dedicated?
#823 [10:29] <MrVinD> pleas help me :)
#824 [10:29] <WugBot> MrVinD: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#825 [10:29] <Kryzz> she also updated her java client
#826 [10:29] <AureliusM> Sanky: Have you got only one Java installed? I still think you should reinstall Java. It appears to fix quite a few of these problems.
#827 [10:30] <Sanky> AureliusM, if I switch back to 1.0, everything works fine.
#828 [10:30] <AureliusM> Sanky: What is in the texturepacks folder of your minecraft?
#829 [10:31] <Sanky> I have the default texture pack set, although the folder is filled.
#830 [10:31] <AureliusM> Sanky: To ind out, if Windows, click Start type %APPDATA%/.minecraft and press Enter key
#831 [10:31] <Sanky> I'm on Ubuntu.
#832 [10:31] <Sanky> Did you even read my crash report? :(
#833 [10:31] <MrVinD> Someone will help me? Pleas :)
#834 [10:31] <AureliusM> Sanky: Aah, ok then what files are inside /.minecraft/texturepacks ?
#835 [10:32] <Sanky> Well, texture packs.
#836 [10:32] <Sanky> (Also, it's ~/.minecraft)
#837 [10:32] <AureliusM> Sanky: Yeah, but I missed the Linux, and went straight for the exception
#838 [10:32] <Sanky> Boreeas: Well, hello there.
#839 [10:32] <AureliusM> Sanky: try moving everything out of texturepacks, and retry Minecraft
#840 [10:33] <Sanky> Well, that worked.
#841 [10:33] <AureliusM> Sanky: really ?
#842 [10:34] <Sanky> In 1.0, I had the default texture pack, so this makes literally zero sense.
#843 [10:34] <Sanky> Thanks, though, wouldn't have figured.
#844 [10:34] <AureliusM> Sanky: No exception? This happened to another user, but in Windows, can you upload the packs somewhere in a gzip so that we can test them?
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#846 [10:35] <AureliusM> Sanky: If there are lots of packs, try each one in turn, see which one gives the error.
#847 [10:35] <MrVinD> Jest Ktos Z Polski??
#848 [10:35] <Sanky> ~26 texture packs.
#849 [10:35] <Boreeas> Sanky: o/
#850 [10:36] <Sanky> I'll try later, gotta take care of my server first.
#851 [10:37] * AureliusM starts trying texture packs to reproduce this InputStreamReader exception
#851 [10:38] <Sanky> Mine was a null pointer.
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#853 [10:38] <Sanky> I'll 7z up my folder in a bit, though.
#854 [10:38] <Boreeas> Sanky: That looks like a problem with translation - did you activate a language pack?
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#856 [10:39] <Sanky> I might have in a weekly release.
#857 [10:39] <Boreeas> abn.a is StringTranslate.translate()
#858 [10:39] <Boreeas> Try going back to English and see if that fixes it
#859 [10:40] <Sanky> Actually, moving the texture packs folder worked for whatever reason
#860 [10:40] <Boreeas> Huh
#861 [10:40] <AureliusM> (this Nullpointer exception probably starts from InputStreamReader, Nullpointer can happen anywhere)
#862 [10:40] <Sanky> Or
#863 [10:40] <Sanky> Probably, switching the version to 1.9 and back is what did the trick.
#864 [10:40] <Sanky> I had a 1.9-pre around, so I switched to it.
#865 [10:40] <Sanky> Let me try moving the packs back..
#866 [10:41] <AureliusM> Sanky: Could be a bug in minecraft handling of non standard format in the PNG ? I'm trying to provoke this error now.
#867 [10:41] <Sanky> Sure enough, moving the packs back works fine.
#868 [10:42] <Sanky> No, my problem was translation related.
#869 [10:42] <Boreeas> Sanky: And what language are you using now?
#870 [10:42] <Sanky> English, but the problem could be that I manually inserted some translations in a weekly release to test
#871 [10:42] <Boreeas> Might be
#872 [10:42] <Boreeas> I haven't actually taken a look at translate yet
#873 [10:42] <Sanky> The code could have changed and the old key was saved in config or something?
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#875 [10:44] <Boreeas> Maybe
#876 [10:45] <MrVinD> Someone knows how to do server without hamachi, premium and not dedicated?
#877 [10:45] <MrVinD> Pleas Help Me :D
#878 [10:45] <WugBot> MrVinD: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#879 [10:45] <Wug> MrVinD: setting up a server?
#880 [10:46] <Boreeas> ;+ crash/abn If Minecraft crashes and the stack trace shows abn, the problem might be translation-related. Try going back to the default English language pack, and check if the language file has been modified manually
#881 [10:46] <ExperimentalWugBot> Done.
#882 [10:46] <WugBot> Done.
#883 [10:46] <Wug> ExperimentalWugBot: mute + #minecrafthelp
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#886 [10:46] <Wug> ;++ crash/abn .
#887 [10:46] <WugBot> Done.
#888 [10:47] <Boreeas> Wug: ;++?
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#890 [10:47] <Wug> :crash/abn
#891 [10:47] <WugBot> crash/abn: If Minecraft crashes and the stack trace shows abn, the problem might be translation-related. Try going back to the default English language pack, and check if the language file has been modified manually.
#892 [10:47] <Boreeas> Oh
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#894 [10:47] <Sanky> Boreeas: not easy to "try going back" since it crashes before the title screen
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#896 [10:48] <MrVinD> I mean I wanted to do her own server without hamachi premium and
#897 [10:48] <MrVinD> I'm Polish I have to use google translator
#898 [10:49] <MrVinD> but i dont speak eniglish good
#899 [10:49] <AureliusM> Sanky: The Windows guy with the exact same exception (but no source lines in Reader and InputStreamReader) had texture packs he had customized himself. I'm about to try some lowdef Painterly packs now. But I only have 1.8 prerelease backups, never bothered with the 1.9 prereleases, went straight from beta 1.8 to 1.0, but no packs.
#900 [10:50] <Wug> :doop
#901 [10:51] <Wug> :doop
#902 [10:51] <Boreeas> Sanky: Removing config.txt /might/ fix that
#903 [10:51] <Boreeas> Sanky: Removing config.txt /might/ fix that
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#906 [10:52] <Sanky> I think 1.9-pre nuked the key from config fo rme
#907 [10:52] <Sanky> for me*
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#914 [11:03] <mib_90io5b> why does minecraft keep saying path could not be found
#915 [11:04] <mib_90io5b> hello?
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#918 [11:15] <Sibbles> Hey, i need some help, minecraft gets stuck at done loading.
#919 [11:15] <Sibbles> AureliusM
#920 [11:16] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Hi, I read you, bit bust making my supper at the moment, but wait a few minutes
#921 [11:16] <AureliusM> Sibbles: *bit busy*
#922 [11:20] <Sibbles> Ok, Ty Aurelius, Gd 2 see your on :)
#923 [11:23] <AureliusM> Sibbles: back for a bit: I cannot remember if we tried the full install batch file. If not, just create a new folder, name it testfull and inside create a run.bat file with these three lines: http://pastebin.com/fhivjLdY
#924 [11:25] <MrVinD> :dooSomeone knows how to do server without hamachi, premium and not dedicated?
#925 [11:25] <MrVinD> Ple Help Me :) :D
#926 [11:27] <MrVinD> AureliusM help me pleas you help all :D
#927 [11:27] <AureliusM> Sibbles: and make sure the run.bat is saved as type "all files" to make sure it will run as a command. Then, download yet another minecraft.jar from http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar and place it inside the "testfull" folder
#928 [11:27] <Sibbles> http://pastebin.com/6f2dSRTM
#929 [11:28] <AureliusM> MrVinD: setting up a vanilla server is straightforward, except for the port forwarding, see:
#930 [11:29] <AureliusM> ??> MrVinD smp/serversetup
#931 [11:29] <VoxelHead> MrVinD: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#932 [11:29] <VoxelHead> MrVinD: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
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#934 [11:29] <MrVinD> thanks
#935 [11:30] <Sibbles> Aurelius Ur a fricking legend ;D
#936 [11:30] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Ok, same NoClassDefFoundError, ... maybe check Java PATH and CLASSPATH and registry now
#937 [11:30] <Sibbles> Noo
#938 [11:30] <Sibbles> I did what you told me 2 do first
#939 [11:30] <Sibbles> and ran it
#940 [11:30] <Sibbles> Thats what came up
#941 [11:30] <mib_681u3d> what do you do when, after you have downloaded minecraft,it failed to find an accelerated GL mode
#942 [11:31] <Sibbles> but then you told me to put in the .jar file and it works :D
#943 [11:31] <|Kiikun|> mib_681u3d: update video drivers.
#944 [11:31] <mib_681u3d> how
#945 [11:31] <AureliusM> Sibbles: ? Oh, well, yes you must have the jar in there.
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#947 [11:31] <mib_681u3d> what is the jar
#948 [11:31] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Something must still be wrong with your %APPDATA%/.minecraft setup though
#949 [11:32] <mib_681u3d> whats that
#950 [11:32] <|Kiikun|> Sibbles: youre running the jar thats the client, downloaded from the website, not the jar the CLIENT downloads, right?
#951 [11:32] <|Kiikun|> mib_681u3d: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, S.H.O.D.A.N., or OS/2 Warp?
#952 [11:32] <Sibbles> Huh?
#953 [11:32] <mib_681u3d> the first one
#954 [11:32] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Note that the set APPDATA=%cd% will make Minecraft keep all its files inside testfull. It will be different from the default location in APPDATA/roaming or wherever Windows 7 puts it
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#956 [11:33] <|Kiikun|> net.minecraft.LauncherFrame only in the client, not in the actual game's jar
#957 [11:33] <|Kiikun|> ??> mib_681u3d win/dxdiag
#958 [11:33] <VoxelHead> mib_681u3d: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#959 [11:33] <VoxelHead> mib_681u3d: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#961 [11:34] <AureliusM> |Kiikun|: I'm 99% sure that Sibbles is using the minecraft.jar from the download, at least that's what I saw in yesterday's teamviewer session
#962 [11:34] * AureliusM is off to check the stove
#962 [11:34] <|Kiikun|> it shouldnt give that error then.
#963 [11:34] <Jellp> My Minecraft Doesn't update to 1.1 ._.
#964 [11:34] <|Kiikun|> Sibbles: redownload? https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#965 [11:34] <norankun> Hello there! I have a problem running minecraft. When i join to the server its starts to download terrain ,then it freezes. After like 15 seconds i got disconected beacuse the timed out. Other servers work fine ,but this one give me this error thing. Please help me!
#966 [11:35] <Sibbles> But it works.
#967 [11:35] <|Kiikun|> its giving you errors but it works...? huh?
#968 [11:35] <|Kiikun|> Jellp: does it stall out or just not ask you to update?
#969 [11:35] <Sibbles> I just said it works after saying that aurelius is a fricking legend lol.
#970 [11:36] <|Kiikun|> oh :P
#971 [11:36] <norankun> The server works fine, people online and others...but i cant connect.
#972 [11:36] <AureliusM> Sibbles: no errors at all in the black window? I would expect at least the lastlogin not found
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#974 [11:36] <|Kiikun|> norankun: it might be your firewall.... or the route between you and them might just suck.
#975 [11:36] <Jellp> |Kiikun| No, I askes to update, Yes. It freezes at a random(low) %
#976 [11:36] <norankun> So how can i fix it?
#977 [11:37] <|Kiikun|> Jellp: usually while downloading lwjgl?
#978 [11:37] <Sibbles> No errors at all
#979 [11:37] <Jellp> |Kiikun| no, its already stuck at Minecraft.jar
#980 [11:37] <|Kiikun|> Jellp: you using java 6 or 7?
#981 [11:38] <Jellp> |Kiikun| 7, I think
#982 [11:38] <Jellp> ?< index
#983 [11:38] <Jellp> What was that command again...
#984 [11:38] <|Kiikun|> Jellp: java 7 likes causing issues. uninstall it and use java 6
#985 [11:38] <Jellp> ?<index
#986 [11:38] <|Kiikun|> ??>> Jellp index
#987 [11:39] <Jellp> Thank you. :P
#988 [11:39] <AureliusM> Sibbles: But the run.bat inside your "Minecraft" folder will still give that error I think.
#989 [11:39] <Sibbles> I'll just run mc of the folder you just told me 2 make
#990 [11:40] <AureliusM> Sibbles: Well, as long as you remember it's in that folder. Remember all the files will be inside "testfull", including saves and so on.
#991 [11:41] <Sibbles> ty
#992 [11:41] <|Kiikun|> AureliusM: set APPDATA=. ?
#993 [11:41] <Jellp> Reason why I use java 7, Minecraft used to crash on java 6. D:
#994 [11:41] <AureliusM> Sibbles: You have to remember that going to %APPDATA% will not go to that testfull folder, so mention that when you next need helpl
#995 [11:41] <AureliusM> |Kiikun|: set APPDATA=%cd%
#996 [11:42] <AureliusM> |Kiikun|: It makes the folder "portable". cd is the current folder
#997 [11:42] <|Kiikun|> AureliusM: basicly the same thing. . makes isuse the cd as well
#998 [11:43] <|Kiikun|> Jellp: you get any crash logs?
#999 [11:43] <|Kiikun|> or was it just 'too much memory! *vomit*'?
#1000 [11:44] <Jellp> Too much memory
#1001 [11:44] <Jellp> it was
#1002 [11:45] <Jellp> I could only play 3 minutes before it crashed
#1003 [11:46] <norankun> How can i fix my problem with the download terrain thing,so i can get online?
#1004 [11:46] <|Kiikun|> but you nenver got an actual error log? hs_err_pid? we coudl try and force it to give one :P
#1005 [11:47] <Sibbles> Aurelius, How are you with mods?
#1006 [11:47] <|Kiikun|> norankun: if its ONLY that server... i cant think of anything offhand that you coudl do :/ especially if other servers work fine. did you play on that server before?
#1007 [11:47] <AureliusM> Sibbles: I know how to remove them!
#1008 [11:47] <norankun> No, i didn't played on the server yet. And the server is working fine for my friends.
#1009 [11:48] <Sibbles> Oh ok, because i used to have this folder in my .Minecraft called mods and it had all my mods in it and any mods i put in there got put straight on the game, but i don't know whether that was thanks to modloader or whether it was because i just made the folder.
#1010 [11:49] <|Kiikun|> Sibbles: that was most likely modloader.
#1011 [11:49] <AureliusM> Sibbles: I've only ever used Optifine, and as a test in a separate folder I tried an unlimited depth mod to make the minecraft world 1000 blocks high; but that's it. mods should be discussed in the proper mod forum. Ah, I also know misapplying mods causes no end of problems.
#1012 [11:50] <Sibbles> Ok thankyou.
#1013 [11:50] <Sibbles> Please can you send me a link to modloader?
#1014 [11:51] <|Kiikun|> norankun: the only things i can think of are firewall disrupting java.. java 7 being connectionderpy... the route from you to the server being bad... or the server being too busy or having somethign thats causing just you problems
#1015 [11:51] <|Kiikun|> ?find Sibbles minecraft modloader
#1016 [11:51] <VoxelHead> Sibbles, http://is.gd/Ng6IHR
#1017 [11:51] <Sibbles> Ty
#1018 [11:52] <AureliusM> Sibbles: And FYI: for Optifine, I always start with a clean Minecraft install, say in folder /100/, copy it to /100modded/ and apply Optifine to /100modded/, that way any mistakes causes no harm to my vanilla /100/ Minecraft.
#1019 [11:52] <Sibbles> mm
#1020 [11:52] <|Kiikun|> AureliusM: i usualy just copy the jar :P then again my mods are usually just SPC and TMI
#1021 [11:54] <Sibbles> Modloader 1.0.0 will work?
#1022 [11:54] <AureliusM> |Kiikun|: the launcher jar? Yes I used to do just that too, but for 1.0.0 and 1.1 I'm now starting to do full copies as a kind of backup.
#1023 [11:54] <|Kiikun|> AureliusM: nono.. the jar in bin
#1024 [11:55] <AureliusM> |Kiikun|: Oh, and you remove the META-INF and then mod it I suppose.
#1025 [11:55] <|Kiikun|> Sibbles: only install mods for the correct version of the game.
#1026 [11:55] <Sibbles> But the link you sent me too was 1.0.0
#1027 [11:55] <norankun> I looked up for some videos, and it says that if the admin delete's my folder it will works...
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#1029 [11:55] <|Kiikun|> Sibbles: yes. because there is no modloader for 1.1 yet.
#1030 [11:55] <Jellp> works. :D
#1031 [11:56] <Sibbles> oh
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#1034 [11:56] <|Kiikun|> Jellp: yeah. java 7 is connection-derpy. sometimes it just forgets how to connect to stuff...
#1035 [11:57] <|Kiikun|> norankun: your player file? it might be the issue. always worth a try
#1036 [11:57] <norankun> Ill try it ,when my friend come's on ,so he can warm the admin.
#1037 [11:57] <D35TR0Y3R> what time zone is utc?
#1038 [11:57] <D35TR0Y3R> GMT -/+ [insert number here]
#1039 [11:58] <|Kiikun|> GMT
#1040 [11:58] <norankun> Kiikun if i give you a video that has the same problem as mine, would you like to take a look at it?
#1041 [11:58] <|Kiikun|> UTC =Universal Time Constant
#1042 [11:58] <norankun> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4JCJfmETgw
#1043 [11:59] <D35TR0Y3R> oh...
#1044 [11:59] <|Kiikun|> norankun: i already understand the issue.. if its not your end (as you can connect to OTHER servers) then its their end.
#1045 [11:59] <D35TR0Y3R> so whens the downtime?
#1046 [12:00] <|Kiikun|> was earlier i think
#1047 [12:00] <D35TR0Y3R> ok
#1048 [12:00] <|Kiikun|> ended like 5 hours ago unless im mistaken
#1049 [12:00] <D35TR0Y3R> wait, kiikun, your getting a read time out on 1 specific server, that's it?
#1050 [12:01] <|Kiikun|> D35TR0Y3R: norankun is.
#1051 [12:01] <D35TR0Y3R> oh
#1052 [12:01] <D35TR0Y3R> what server is it?
#1053 [12:01] <D35TR0Y3R> cause that's happening to me, to
#1054 [12:02] <D35TR0Y3R> *too
#1055 [12:04] <norankun> its a romanian server
#1056 [12:06] <D35TR0Y3R> oh
#1057 [12:06] <D35TR0Y3R> whats it called?
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#1059 [12:09] <ika> hi all and happy new years =)
#1060 [12:09] <oldtopmanserver> Hello!
#1061 [12:09] <ika> i'm ika alias kerméllia on the communauty since 5 days =)
#1062 [12:10] <oldtopmanserver> What can I help you with?
#1063 [12:10] <ika> amm would ask if a server is avalable for the 1.1.0 client of minecraft
#1064 [12:10] <oldtopmanserver> ika: Are you already on one?
#1065 [12:11] <ika> i use a server for 1.0.0 under
#1066 [12:11] <ika> a seconde mdr i'm looking for the name =)
#1067 [12:11] <oldtopmanserver> ika: I would just wait until yours updates.
#1068 [12:12] <ika> a 1.0.1 server
#1069 [12:12] <ika> ah ok =)
#1070 [12:13] <ika> ok well we have to wait until a server version is available ?
#1071 [12:13] <ika> sorry for my english ^^
#1072 [12:15] <oldtopmanserver> ika: There are a lot of people with a 1.1 server, like myeslf.
#1073 [12:15] <Jellp> How does the Rcon (vanilla) work?
#1074 [12:15] <oldtopmanserver> But if you've built many things on a server, you may wish to wait until it updates.
#1075 [12:15] <oldtopmanserver> Jellp: Direct UDP IIRC
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#1077 [12:16] <Jellp> Can I have a more understandable version of that? I get a end of stream if I connect to mine
#1078 [12:16] <ika> where can i find a 1.1.0 server tho ?
#1079 [12:17] <D35TR0Y3R> ika, there are many websites that have large lists of some
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#1081 [12:17] <ika> i have tryied on bukkit, i only know this source
#1082 [12:18] <D35TR0Y3R> planet minecraft has a good list going
#1083 [12:18] <ika> oh think
#1084 [12:19] <D35TR0Y3R> but ika
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#1086 [12:19] <ika> yes ?
#1087 [12:19] <D35TR0Y3R> there is this one server, it's my absolute favorite
#1088 [12:19] <D35TR0Y3R> you have to apply for a whitelist, but when you get on, it's amazing
#1089 [12:19] <D35TR0Y3R> it's buxville.net
#1090 [12:20] <ika> it's french ?
#1091 [12:20] <ika> bux"ville".net ^^
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#1093 [12:21] <lilybet> i need help
#1094 [12:21] <ika> it's craftbukkit 1.1.R1 the core name ?
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#1096 [12:22] <Serone> hi
#1097 [12:22] <Serone> have a problem
#1098 [12:22] <lilybet> i need to know what i need to run minecraft
#1099 [12:22] <Serone> my mnecarft sound are starting to be laggy
#1100 [12:22] <Serone> do i hve any motives to be worried
#1101 [12:23] <lilybet> i need help
#1102 [12:23] <Serone> and you need a dedicated visual card and 1 gb ram minimum
#1103 [12:23] <Serone> and a good procesor
#1104 [12:23] <lilybet> whats that
#1105 [12:23] <Serone> what
#1106 [12:24] <lilybet> dedddicated visual card
#1107 [12:24] <Serone> dedicated visual card= good video card
#1108 [12:24] <Serone> a good grafix card
#1109 [12:24] <lilybet> it says i have a radeon graphics card
#1110 [12:25] <Serone> wich series
#1111 [12:25] <lilybet> idk brand new computer
#1112 [12:25] <Serone> you must tell me what serie if its above 2000x mnecarft should work
#1113 [12:26] <Serone> but whats your roblem
#1114 [12:27] <lilybet> yea
#1115 [12:27] <lilybet> like 2600
#1116 [12:27] <Serone> then it should work
#1117 [12:27] <Serone> but the ram how much is it
#1118 [12:27] <Serone> 1-2
#1119 [12:27] <Serone> ?
#1120 [12:27] <Serone> mine is 4
#1121 [12:27] <lilybet> 1.5 Tb
#1122 [12:28] <Serone> no the ram how many GBs do you have on t
#1123 [12:28] <lilybet> evmy computer
#1124 [12:28] <lilybet> om my
#1125 [12:28] <lilybet> on my
#1126 [12:28] <Serone> anyway whats the eror mesage
#1127 [12:28] <lilybet> hold on
#1128 [12:29] <lilybet> it says bad video card drivers
#1129 [12:30] <lilybet> 7fe0271
#1130 [12:31] <lilybet> u there
#1131 [12:31] <Boreeas> ??> lilybet win/dxdiag
#1132 [12:31] <VoxelHead> lilybet: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1133 [12:31] <VoxelHead> lilybet: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1135 [12:36] <Serone> i am back
#1136 [12:36] <Serone> nyway
#1137 [12:36] <Serone> i need help
#1138 [12:36] <Serone> my miecarft sounds are laggy
#1139 [12:36] <Serone> like in 5 in five secs a sound lagg
#1140 [12:36] <Serone> but the vsual lagg s none
#1141 [12:37] <Serone> an
#1142 [12:37] <Serone> anyone who can hep me?
#1143 [12:37] <Serone> lease ;(
#1144 [12:38] <Serone> lease anyone need help :9
#1145 [12:38] <lilybet> me
#1146 [12:38] <Serone> h
#1147 [12:39] <Serone> but when mean somebody i want to say somebody who can help e
#1148 [12:40] <Serone> please anyone ;9
#1149 [12:40] <Serone> ohhhh
#1150 [12:40] <Serone> boreas of VoxelHead
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#1152 [12:42] <Serone> please anyone who can help
#1153 [12:43] <Morrolan> Don't spam that much, in god's name.
#1154 [12:44] <Morrolan> As for lagging sound, I have absolutely no clue what might cause this. Tried to update your soundcard's / mainboard's driver?
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#1158 [13:02] <BlackBird> hi
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#1160 [13:03] <BlackBird> did anyone know that to do if minecraft is hanging up in the downloadscreen?
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#1162 [13:05] <Dalkonzar> can anyone remind me what the bukkit help channel is called?
#1163 [13:06] <Dalkonzar> #minecraftbukkithelp
#1164 [13:06] <Dalkonzar> oops
#1165 [13:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> Dalkonzar - #bukkit
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#1169 [13:13] <dyceman> On my gmail account. I can't get any email from minecraft to make my account. What can I do to allow minecraft to send me emails?
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#1174 [13:16] <slimer> Hello
#1175 [13:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> dyceman - do you have a .name hostspace on gmail?
#1176 [13:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> because if you do relying on forwarding from the gmail.com account wont work
#1177 [13:17] <slimer> I have an error if i want to join my server
#1178 [13:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> hi slimer
#1179 [13:17] <dyceman> umm
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#1181 [13:17] <slimer> He says Internal server error
#1182 [13:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> then you dont have port forwarding set up most likely
#1183 [13:17] <slimer> Do you know what this mean
#1184 [13:18] <slimer> Okey i will check it
#1185 [13:18] <dyceman> by hostname. Do you mean as my own email accounts that I have for my own website. Like @maple-radio.com
#1186 [13:18] <slimer> Ty WherelsMySpoon
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#1188 [13:18] <domingocool> whut?
#1189 [13:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> are you using a @gmail.com account dyceman
#1190 [13:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> or @googlemail.com
#1191 [13:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> one of those
#1192 [13:19] <dyceman> I am using a email account that is hosted by gmail
#1193 [13:19] <dyceman> I am not using a @gmail.com
#1194 [13:19] <clarjon1> google apps account
#1195 [13:19] <clarjon1> i have one of those too :3
#1196 [13:19] <joui92> hola
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#1198 [13:19] <dyceman> I tried adding minecraft to my contact
#1199 [13:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> dyceman can you pm me (if you dont want to put it here) the address you are giving to mc
#1200 [13:20] <nai> please. i need help with a server
#1201 [13:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> huh well that should work
#1202 [13:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??>nai ask
#1203 [13:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> ugh
#1204 [13:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? >nai ask
#1205 [13:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> >_>
#1206 [13:21] <domingocool> what do you need help with nia?
#1207 [13:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> i forgot the thing
#1208 [13:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> nai ask what you wnt
#1209 [13:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> dont just say i need help
#1210 [13:21] <nai> sorry i speak spanish
#1211 [13:21] <nai> and i translate slow
#1212 [13:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> dyceman try a different emaila ddress
#1213 [13:22] <dyceman> i have been wait over 30 minutes and nothing has been sent. Is there a support email for business on the minecraft site?
#1214 [13:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> i dunno why that isnt working
#1215 [13:22] <domingocool> Yo hablo un poquito de espanol
#1216 [13:22] <dyceman> I can't change anything on my email
#1217 [13:22] <dyceman> I won't be able to use the name I want
#1218 [13:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> have you paid dyceman
#1219 [13:23] <dyceman> I can't until my account is verified
#1220 [13:23] <clarjon1> from what i can tell, dyceman has a google apps domain
#1221 [13:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> then just make a new account
#1222 [13:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> with a differetn address#
#1223 [13:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> clarjon1 his emaill add is vali
#1224 [13:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> d
#1225 [13:23] <clarjon1> coo'
#1226 [13:23] <clarjon1> coo'
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#1228 [13:24] <dyceman> I am not because I want to use my name I have chosen.
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#1230 [13:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> *shrug*
#1231 [13:25] <nai> when i go to connect of the server, get the messege outdated server
#1232 [13:25] <nai> but i yesterday can connect at this server
#1233 [13:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> u need to update ur minecraft_server.jar
#1234 [13:25] <dyceman> I can't contact minecraft at all?
#1235 [13:25] <clarjon1> nai: that means that the server owner has to update the server for you.
#1236 [13:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> if its your server that is nai
#1237 [13:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> if its someone elses they need to update their server
#1238 [13:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> you can dyceman
#1239 [13:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> but a) they have a long list and are busy and b) your request is prolly not a top prio
#1240 [13:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> they will most likely at least list what i said as a solution
#1241 [13:26] <nai> and how is it updated?
#1242 [13:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> dl it from the site nai
#1243 [13:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#1244 [13:27] <nai> ok, thanks
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#1248 [13:35] <joui92> .
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#1250 [13:36] <nai> sorry but minecraft_server.jar don't run
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#1252 [13:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> nai did you download it using internet explorer?
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#1254 [13:38] <JordanTheGamer> hi
#1255 [13:38] <nai> no, i use mozila firefox
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#1257 [13:38] <nai> hello
#1258 [13:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok good
#1259 [13:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> what error do u get
#1260 [13:39] <JordanTheGamer> I Need Help. The Game (Free Version) Won't Appear!
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#1262 [13:40] <JordanTheGamer> So Is There Anything I Can Do To Solve This Issue?
#1263 [13:41] <nai> the server don't run and the program minecraft_server.jar don't run only aappears many messeges
#1264 [13:42] <nai> sorry it's 2 messeges but repeat only time
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#1266 [13:42] <Dathron> hello, I have a quick question about Mods
#1267 [13:43] <JordanTheGamer> So Can Anyone Here Help?
#1268 [13:43] <Dathron> I'm trying to use the Technic pack in a new save game, but it only seems to work on the one I created right after downloading it
#1269 [13:43] <Dathron> is there an easy way to get them to work in all saves I create?
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#1271 [13:44] <_korova_> hey
#1272 [13:44] <_korova_> guys i need help
#1273 [13:45] <Dathron> no ones here it seems like :P
#1274 [13:45] <_korova_> lol
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#1276 [13:45] <_korova_> I have a problem launching minecraft :/
#1277 [13:45] <Dathron> well I'm here looking for help too, but I suppose I could try to help as well :P
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#1279 [13:45] <ClassicSonic> hi
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#1282 [13:46] <_korova_> well, I used to play minecraft.. it was okay the i tried to install a mod and then it didnt run at all... Only the cracked minecraft runs the one I bought doesnt! :/
#1283 [13:46] <_korova_> then*
#1284 [13:46] <Dathron> ahh
#1285 [13:46] <ClassicSonic> I Seem To Have A Problem With The Free Version, The Game Won't Appear!
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#1288 [13:47] <_korova_> did you instal any mods ?
#1289 [13:47] <_korova_> install*
#1290 [13:47] <Narusuji> hello
#1291 [13:47] <Dathron> I had a similar problem korova, the obvious answer is always "did you delete the META-INF file?" :P
#1292 [13:47] <Dathron> assuming you did, I dunno if I can help past that hehe
#1293 [13:47] <naruto2000> hi i have just paid for game and now i cant get on it help
#1294 [13:47] <_korova_> well it doesnt launch at all i said only the cracked one launches...
#1295 [13:47] <_korova_> also i have deleted it
#1296 [13:48] <ClassicSonic> So Anyone Know How To Fix My Issue?
#1297 [13:48] <Dathron> well you could delete every minecraft folder you have and re-download the paid-for one
#1298 [13:48] <Dathron> I had to do that a few times
#1299 [13:48] <Narusuji> i have a problem with the launcher. when i click on the launcher it doesnt load up the login menu.
#1300 [13:48] <Dathron> sorry Classic, I haven't played the free version in ages
#1301 [13:48] <_korova_> ClassicSonny, did you install any mods ?
#1302 [13:49] <ClassicSonic> nOPE
#1303 [13:49] <_korova_> sonic*
#1304 [13:49] <_korova_> hmm
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#1306 [13:49] <naruto2000> it wont play
#1307 [13:49] <_korova_> Narusuji tried re-downloading and updating ?
#1308 [13:49] <Narusuji> yes
#1309 [13:50] <naruto2000> yes
#1310 [13:50] <Narusuji> i tried reinstalling java and minecraft :/
#1311 [13:50] <naruto2000> me to
#1312 [13:50] <_korova_> ive also tried it
#1313 [13:50] <ClassicSonic> It Seems That Everything BUT The Game Will Appear, Odd.
#1314 [13:50] <Narusuji> but i have a digiex launcher and it works fine, so it has to be something with launcher.
#1315 [13:51] <Morrolan> ClassicSonic - You don't happen to be on Mac OSX?
#1316 [13:51] <ClassicSonic> No. Windows 7
#1317 [13:51] <Dathron> if anyone here IS good with working with mods, I'd like to get some help on my question too :)
#1318 [13:52] <Dathron> how to get my mods to work in more than just the one save game I create after downloading
#1319 [13:52] <Morrolan> Ok, since Minecraft Classic doesn't work on OSX for some reason. In this case I'll just throw this FAQ at you, ClassicSonic, you could try some of the things listed there. http://minecraftirc.net/thread-40.html
#1320 [13:52] <_korova_> Morrolan
#1321 [13:52] <Morrolan> Dathron - They... shouldn't be limited to one savegame only. What mods are you talking about?
#1322 [13:52] <_korova_> can you help me too ?
#1323 [13:52] <ClassicSonic> Alright,I'll Try, Give Me A Sec
#1324 [13:52] <Morrolan> What's your issue, _korova_?
#1325 [13:52] <_korova_> well, I used to play minecraft.. it was okay the i tried to install a mod and then it didnt run at all... Only the cracked minecraft runs the one I bought doesnt!
#1326 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> ??> _korova_ win/hosts
#1327 [13:52] <_korova_> thn*
#1328 [13:52] <VoxelHead> _korova_: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1329 [13:52] <Narusuji> anyone know why minecraft.net's launcher doesnt load up?
#1330 [13:52] <VoxelHead> _korova_: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1331 [13:53] <Morrolan> _korova_ - And it only stopped working after you installed a mod on the bough version? Or did the one you buy never work?
#1332 [13:53] <_korova_> my buy worked
#1333 [13:53] <_korova_> when i installed the mod it didnt
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#1335 [13:54] <ClassicSonic> Sorry, Nothing. What Should I Do?
#1336 [13:54] <Morrolan> Then it'll be easiest to simply force an update to get rid of that mod, _korova_. Start up the launcher, then go on "Options" (above "login") and select "Force update". Then log in and let it redownload the files.
#1337 [13:54] <Morrolan> ClassicSonic - That's as far as my expertise with Minecraft Classic goes I'm afraid. ;)
#1338 [13:55] <_korova_> i got rid of it
#1339 [13:55] <_korova_> then again it didnt
#1340 [13:55] <_korova_> also VoxelHead # Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp. # # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows. # # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name. # The IP address and
#1341 [13:55] <Dathron> Morrolan: I am using the Technic Pack
#1342 [13:55] <Morrolan> Waitwait, use www.pastebin.com , _korova_.
#1343 [13:55] <ClassicSonic> Should I Wipe The Java Files?
#1344 [13:55] <Dathron> it worked perfectly fine on the first save-game, but now every save-game after is just vanilla Minecraft
#1345 [13:56] <Morrolan> ClassicSonic - Reinstalling Java is always worth a shot, yea.
#1346 [13:56] <_korova_> http://pastebin.com/XQguEcSN
#1347 [13:56] <_korova_> here
#1348 [13:56] <ClassicSonic> Ok, Be Right Back....
#1349 [13:56] <Morrolan> Dathron - I am not familiar with that mod in particular. It'd be best to contact the mod developer via the forums. You could also ask in #risucraft , one of them might know why this'd happen.
#1350 [13:56] <Dathron> ok
#1351 [13:56] <Morrolan> Dathron - Generally speaking mods shouldn't be for one savegame only. :/
#1352 [13:57] <Dathron> well it happened with every mod I've downloaded in the past too, I was just surprised with the Technic Pack because it didn't even give me a chance to mess up the download haha
#1353 [13:57] <_korova_> Also if it helps the mod i installed when it didn't launch was Technic pack!
#1354 [13:57] <Morrolan> _korova_ - Ok, the hosts file isn't the issue. Since the forceupdate didn't work, try this here.
#1355 [13:57] <Dathron> since it came with its own download manager setup haha
#1356 [13:57] <Morrolan> ??> _korova_ win/reinst
#1357 [13:57] <VoxelHead> _korova_: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1358 [13:57] <VoxelHead> _korova_: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1359 [13:57] <ClassicSonic> Ok, It Just Go Even Weirder. Java Is Not On My Computer, Even Though I DID....
#1360 [13:58] <_korova_> VoxelHead I've already done that
#1361 [13:58] <Dathron> I'll contact the mod developers though
#1362 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> ??> _korova_ win/profile
#1363 [13:58] <VoxelHead> _korova_: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1364 [13:58] <VoxelHead> _korova_: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1365 [13:58] <_korova_> the problem is the same with: Texture pack patcher, minecraft server and the PREMIUM minecraft, the cracked works
#1366 [13:59] <_korova_> Okay I will try this
#1367 [13:59] <_korova_> Be right back!
#1368 [13:59] <Omega_Guardian> Optifine has built-in support for higher res texture packs
#1369 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> Optifine also has built-in support for not getting support in #minecrafthelp
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#1371 [14:01] <ClassicSonic> Let Me Try Instaling It Again. WAY TO WEIRD.
#1372 [14:02] <ClassicSonic> alright, Installing It.
#1373 [14:03] <ClassicSonic> Hmmmm
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#1375 [14:04] <_korova_> Okay
#1376 [14:04] <_korova_> so in the new user
#1377 [14:04] <_korova_> it works
#1378 [14:04] <_korova_> what could the problem be ?
#1379 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> _korova_: one of the many cracks you have run, quite possibly.
#1380 [14:05] <Morrolan> Like for some of Ubisoft's games. :P
#1381 [14:05] <_korova_> what ?
#1382 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> I see that you've also cracked the UbiSoft DRM, for example :p
#1383 [14:05] * DopeGhoti isn't judging; merely observing
#1383 [14:05] <_korova_> so what should i do ?
#1384 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> the easy answer is run Minecraft in the clean profile
#1385 [14:05] <_korova_> the hard one ?
#1386 [14:06] <ClassicSonic> java is currently installing. But Is There A Reason Why The Free Version Is Not Running?
#1387 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> The tedious answer is to look at all the running processes in your normal profile and weed out the one that's interfering with Minecraft.
#1388 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> ClassicSonic: other than that it requires Java?
#1389 [14:06] <_korova_> how can i do it ?
#1390 [14:06] <ClassicSonic> Very Possible.'
#1391 [14:07] <ClassicSonic> It's Taking Very Long. I'll Wait.
#1392 [14:07] <_korova_> ?
#1393 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> _korova_: ctrl+alt+del, go to the Task Mangler^WManager, and start endign processes.
#1394 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> Do this at your own risk.
#1395 [14:08] <_korova_> ending processes?
#1396 [14:08] <_korova_> lols
#1397 [14:08] <_korova_> ok
#1398 [14:09] <ClassicSonic> Almost Done.
#1399 [14:10] <Omega_Guardian> theres one reason IU heard why might have issues: cracked version of Minecraft adding something to hosts file to redirect away from the Minecraft site
#1400 [14:10] <Morrolan> Yea, already checked that one though. :)
#1401 [14:11] <Morrolan> Oh, _korova_, don't end any process called "iexplorer.exe" "opera.exe" or however your browser is named. :P
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#1403 [14:12] <_korova_> yeah i know
#1404 [14:12] <_korova_> i am not noob at pcs :p
#1405 [14:12] <_korova_> i just am not good at solving problems xD
#1406 [14:12] <Morrolan> Ok. ;)
#1407 [14:12] <ClassicSonic> (Tapping Foot)
#1408 [14:12] <ClassicSonic> How Long Does It Take For Java To Install, Anyway?
#1409 [14:12] <Morrolan> Uh, half a minute maybe?
#1410 [14:12] <Morrolan> Well, if you went for the "online install" it'll depend on your connection speed.
#1411 [14:13] <ClassicSonic> Ok, So That;s Why It's Slow...
#1412 [14:13] <_korova_> also gotta
#1413 [14:13] <_korova_> say
#1414 [14:14] <_korova_> that minecraft
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#1416 [14:15] <Mrcrazysalad> hello
#1417 [14:15] <Cryp71c> rar
#1418 [14:15] <Mrcrazysalad> i need help
#1419 [14:16] <Mrcrazysalad> can someone help me
#1420 [14:16] <WugBot> Mrcrazysalad: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1421 [14:16] <Mrcrazysalad> when i use spout i cant connect to any servers, it just says took too long to log in.
#1422 [14:17] <Mrcrazysalad> well, will you help me
#1423 [14:17] <Mrcrazysalad> please help
#1424 [14:17] <Mrcrazysalad> can you help me
#1425 [14:17] <WugBot> Mrcrazysalad: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1426 [14:17] <Mrcrazysalad> i said it already
#1427 [14:17] <Mrcrazysalad> cryp71c
#1428 [14:17] <_korova_> Cant i just copy the running processes from the other user to mine ?
#1429 [14:18] <Mrcrazysalad> help
#1430 [14:19] <Mrcrazysalad> comon, help
#1431 [14:19] <Mrcrazysalad> help me please
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#1433 [14:20] <gamakichi> Sorry. Don't Know What Happened.
#1434 [14:21] <Mrcrazysalad> when i use spout i cant connect to any servers, it just says took too long to log in.
#1435 [14:21] <Mrcrazysalad> can someone help me, please?
#1436 [14:21] <gamakichi> I Was ClassicSonic, It Just Sent Me To "Esper", Odd
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#1438 [14:22] <AureliusM> Mrcrazysalad: is spout a plugin for helping with bukkit server-side plugins? If yes, try #bukkit .
#1439 [14:23] <gamakichi> So I Basically Got Java. Should I try again?
#1440 [14:24] <gamakichi> Hello?
#1441 [14:25] * mib_ruv4lf [mib_ruv4lf@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1442 [14:25] <mib_ruv4lf> I have a problem from the start minecraft
#1443 [14:26] <AureliusM> gamakichi: formerly known as ClassicSonic: Um, you downloaded the Java offline install? Did someone advise you to uninstall all Java and then install Java 6 ?
#1444 [14:26] <gamakichi> Yes!
#1445 [14:26] <mib_ruv4lf> If I start and hit the login is just a black window and then I crash. please help me.
#1446 [14:28] <mib_ruv4lf> I have java 6 update 30 and all. net framework.ä
#1447 [14:29] <gamakichi> alright it works,thanks!
#1448 [14:29] <gamakichi> alright it works,thanks!
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#1450 [14:29] <AureliusM> gamakichi: (just finished reading up) And Java 6 is installed now? Please check: Start / click Control panel, double click the Java icon and click the About button, it should show Java 6, maybe also 1.6.0_30
#1451 [14:29] <AureliusM> gamakichi: oh, so it just needed a Java install then? That's good.
#1452 [14:30] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Do you have Windows? If yes, which version?
#1453 [14:30] <mib_ruv4lf> Ja, ich habe windows xp 32 bit
#1454 [14:31] <Mrcrazysalad> when i use spout i cant connect to any servers, it just says took too long to log in.
#1455 [14:31] <mib_ruv4lf> yes i have windows xp 32 bit
#1456 [14:31] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Any error message? Any file name starting with hs_err_pid ?
#1457 [14:31] <mib_ruv4lf> yes
#1458 [14:32] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Ok. Can you copy the contents of the error message to pastebin.com. Instructions follow next:
#1459 [14:33] <AureliusM> ??> pastebin
#1460 [14:33] <AureliusM> ??> mib_ruv4lf pastebin
#1461 [14:33] <VoxelHead> mib_ruv4lf: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1462 [14:34] <mib_ruv4lf> ok. pls wait a moment
#1463 [14:35] <mib_ruv4lf> http://pastebin.com/9Fp8Y1Ub
#1464 [14:37] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: ok, thanks. the error report has "Problematic frame: # C 0x491b212c" and "GL11.glTexCoordPointer"; This is probably due to the graphics drivers. Please do a dxdiag . Instructions follow:
#1465 [14:37] <AureliusM> ??> mib_ruv4lf win/dxdiag
#1466 [14:37] <VoxelHead> mib_ruv4lf: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1467 [14:38] <VoxelHead> mib_ruv4lf: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1468 [14:38] <C> np AureliusM
#1469 [14:39] <AureliusM> C: ? what's np? no problem?
#1470 [14:39] <mib_ruv4lf> ok
#1471 [14:40] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: and copy and paste the contents into another pastebin.com, and post the URL here
#1472 [14:40] <mib_ruv4lf> http://pastebin.com/dEHUTnxq
#1473 [14:42] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Thanks, the dxdiag has: FUJITSU SIEMENS, Graphics Card name: SiS661FX on board
#1474 [14:42] <mib_ruv4lf> yes
#1475 [14:42] <mib_ruv4lf> and why I can not play then?
#1476 [14:43] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: I'm not sure this card can run Minecraft, I'm looking up its specs now. Has Minecraft ever run on your machine?
#1477 [14:44] <mib_ruv4lf> No. only multiplayer in the browser works.
#1478 [14:45] <mib_ruv4lf> but for which I had not even pay € 20.
#1479 [14:45] <mib_ruv4lf> for multiplayer
#1480 [14:46] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: The graphics driver date is Driver Date/Size: 4/12/2010, I'm looking for any newer versions. Have you looked at the fujitsu website for driver updates? sis.com appears defunct now. I found an old German post about getting an update for OpenGL here: http://www.tomshardware.de/foren/199573-4-sis661fx-opengl
#1481 [14:48] <mib_ruv4lf> and the update should work minecraft?
#1482 [14:50] <mib_ruv4lf> mh can not download it, because like you said dei page is no longer available ... what should I do then?
#1483 [14:51] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: I found drivers for the IGP Grafiktreiber - SIS661FX here: http://w3.sis.com/download/download_step1.php - but I remember another user had a SiS chipset and the new minecraft stand alone client would not run with it.
#1484 [14:51] <mib_ruv4lf> and I have the current (last update was 2009/2010) driver ...
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#1487 [14:53] <mib_ruv4lf> I should try it?
#1488 [14:54] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Yes your driver looks like it could be the same. 4/12/2010 probably is 4 December, and sis.com site "Download Center > IGP Graphics Drivers : SiS66x/SiS76x & SiS67x : Windows XP " shows R393_logo.zip dated 2010-12-13, which must have the same inside.
#1489 [14:54] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Wait. I mean No! I think it will be the same.
#1490 [14:55] <Minejan> i need help when i start minecraft there is always standing " updating minecraft done loading "
#1491 [14:55] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: So, the free Classic version in the browser works, but when you try Minecraft official 1.0.0 or 1.1 you get a black screen immediately after login?
#1492 [14:56] <mib_ruv4lf> ok I'm waiting
#1493 [14:57] <AureliusM> Minejan: Has Minecraft ran on your machine before? Have you tried Force Update?
#1494 [14:57] <mib_ruv4lf> a black screen then closes the window automatically ....
#1495 [14:57] <mib_ruv4lf> updates but it has brought
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#1497 [14:58] <Minejan> yes it runs before. where can i find this update?
#1498 [14:58] <AureliusM> Minejan: When you launch Minecraft, click Options then click Force Update, then try login again
#1499 [15:02] <Minejan> ok i try it now
#1500 [15:03] <Minejan> it works !! ;-)) thank you
#1501 [15:03] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: AH, after looking at the SiS pages and your display memory I believe it will not run the new Minecraft. It appears to be too old and only 32 Mb display memory makes it impossible I think.
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#1503 [15:03] * AureliusM is looking for that list of OpenGL compatible GPUs
#1503 [15:04] <mib_ruv4lf> I have 32 bit
#1504 [15:06] <mib_ruv4lf> schauf auf display devices bei display memory
#1505 [15:06] <mib_ruv4lf> schauf auf display devices bei display memory
#1506 [15:07] <mib_ruv4lf> show on display devices in display memory
#1507 [15:07] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Yes, Display Memory: 32.0 MB. But that is very low. Now, there is a free GL viewer that can report what OpenGL your chip should support here :http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/
#1508 [15:09] <mib_ruv4lf> and what should I do now?
#1509 [15:11] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Have you downloaded the free GL Viewer? I have never used it, but I'm looking at it now.
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#1511 [15:11] <napoleon> urm
#1512 [15:11] <napoleon> i have two computers right
#1513 [15:12] <napoleon> if i get the update for 1.1 on one of them
#1514 [15:12] <napoleon> will it automatically update the other?
#1515 [15:12] <napoleon> or can i keep the other one on 1.0.0
#1516 [15:12] <AureliusM> napoleon: No.
#1517 [15:12] <napoleon> so i can keep the other one on 1.0.0?
#1518 [15:12] <mib_ruv4lf> no not yet wait briefly
#1519 [15:12] <napoleon> using the same account
#1520 [15:13] <napoleon> :s
#1521 [15:13] <AureliusM> napoleon: Unless you have the 2 computers networked together in some way that they share a common %APPDATA% - unlikely unless you set it that way
#1522 [15:13] <napoleon> great!| thanks!
#1523 [15:15] <mib_ruv4lf> j ow did it and now?
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#1525 [15:17] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Try launching GLView and look for the OpenGL tab
#1526 [15:17] <mib_ruv4lf> I will send a screen so you can watch it better?
#1527 [15:18] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Ok, a screenshot? Post a link.
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#1529 [15:19] <mib_ruv4lf> ok pls wait for upload
#1530 [15:22] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: You can use imgur.com to post images. For example here is what GLView report looks like for me: http://i.imgur.com/WNovO.png
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#1532 [15:23] <Serone> can somebody help me?
#1533 [15:23] <WugBot> Serone: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1534 [15:23] <Serone> well
#1535 [15:23] <Serone> my sound from minecarft are very laggy
#1536 [15:23] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: The part you want is the OpenGL section, the number after Version:
#1537 [15:24] <Serone> why
#1538 [15:24] <AureliusM> Serone: what are your system specs? CPU, and RAM mainly
#1539 [15:24] <Serone> and do have motives to be worried
#1540 [15:24] <Serone> cpu is 2.93 GHz and ram is 4 gb
#1541 [15:24] <Serone> ohh and cpu is dual core
#1542 [15:25] <mib_yxizrq> Hi there. My son loves playing the game.... We got a new computer, and when he starts the game the cross for the mouse/courser is an error instead, and not very easy working with. How do we change from mouse/courser to the cross?
#1543 [15:25] <mib_ruv4lf> I just loaded it up. takes a little bit. my pc is not the best.
#1544 [15:25] <AureliusM> Serone: Ok, that should be Ok, what about graphics card? And How are you running Minecraft? In browser or standalone
#1545 [15:25] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: No problem.
#1546 [15:26] <Serone> i have graphics ati radeon think 400 or 500 series i will check
#1547 [15:26] <xales> mib_yxizrq: What do you mean by, an error?
#1548 [15:26] <Serone> i mean 4000 or 5000
#1549 [15:27] <AureliusM> mib_yxizrq: the cursor is an error? Can you post a cropped screenshot? If Windows there is a key labeled Prtscr on top row near to the backspace key
#1550 [15:27] <Serone> its ati radeon 5670 series
#1551 [15:27] <Serone> hd
#1552 [15:27] <Serone> and what do you mean by in browser or standalone
#1553 [15:28] <mib_ruv4lf> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/unbenanntqo.png/
#1554 [15:29] <AureliusM> Serone: sound lags for me only when I overload my PC with too many memory using programs, for example when I run a server at same time. WHat does task manager show for the system and for the java process? How much memory?
#1555 [15:29] <Serone> hey anyone in there
#1556 [15:29] <Serone> oh sry
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#1558 [15:29] <Serone> wit a sec
#1559 [15:29] <Serone> i will check
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#1562 [15:31] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Ok, GLView shows OpenGL Version 1.4 . Can you click the More details link in GL View ?
#1563 [15:31] <AureliusM> ??> Serone dont/tweet
#1564 [15:31] <VoxelHead> Serone: (dont/tweet) IRC has a very generous limit on the length of its messages. Please, for the sake of our sanity, use complete words, such as 'you', 'one', and 'are', and not 'u', '1', and 'r'.
#1565 [15:32] <Serone> ok
#1566 [15:32] <mib_yxizrq> I mean, when you work on your computer you use the cursor to find the maps, files and so.... And it is marked with an "arrow" - sorry pore spelling.... do you know what I mean?
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#1568 [15:32] <Serone> anyway
#1569 [15:32] <Serone> the sound was good this time
#1570 [15:32] <AureliusM> Serone: oopps, I meant to get VoxelHead to advise you to put all thoughts on one line, and not use the Enter key as a comma
#1571 [15:32] <Serone> twhen i was on singleplayer
#1572 [15:33] <Serone> and sory for that
#1573 [15:33] <Serone> tiping
#1574 [15:33] <Serone> but my keyboard isnt rectng good
#1575 [15:33] <Serone> espacialy at i
#1576 [15:33] <AureliusM> Serone: Um, please avoid using the Enter key!
#1577 [15:33] <Serone> why?
#1578 [15:33] <mib_ruv4lf> to see datails at the version number?
#1579 [15:33] * AureliusM arghs
#1579 [15:34] <Serone> i dont understamd
#1580 [15:34] <Serone> anyway
#1581 [15:34] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: yes, there shpould be a list for each opengl, eg 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4
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#1583 [15:35] <Serone> my cpu usage on singleplayer hardcore was 55-65 on hardocre with power saving mode
#1584 [15:35] <Serone> and my memory usage was 1.83 gb
#1585 [15:36] <Serone> and am speakng about 1.0.0. version because al my favourite servers are on 1.0.0.
#1586 [15:36] <AureliusM> Serone: Ok, and how bad was the sound lag? seconds or fractions of a second?
#1587 [15:36] <Serone> no lagg this time but this on singleplayer i havent checked yet on multiplayer
#1588 [15:37] <AureliusM> Serone: Oh servers are giving the sound lag. That's quite possible, depends on the server. But you get no sound lag on single player?
#1589 [15:38] <mib_ruv4lf> jop. and I should open all of them and a screen?
#1590 [15:38] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Let's try running minecraft with less memory, that might help. Wait for instructions.
#1591 [15:38] <Serone> i was geting on singleplayer too but now noo
#1592 [15:39] <Serone> on mutiplayer when i cose the door it sound lke i open and close it two times
#1593 [15:39] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Follow these: http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#1594 [15:40] <Serone> and it might be from my headphone the sound is tulburated
#1595 [15:40] <Serone> anyway its not very bad
#1596 [15:40] <Serone> ti am facng ths lagg from morning
#1597 [15:40] <Serone> i am knda payng it 24?7
#1598 [15:41] <Serone> and sory for the l and i letters tey dont work properly from when i attacked my keybord
#1599 [15:43] <Serone> anyway i am usng powersaving mod because my comp can run it with no lagg at high but i want to prevent cpu usage
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#1602 [15:44] <AureliusM> Serone: Use Task Manager to monitor the total memory use when playing - if it exceeds the Physical that can cause pauses. Do all servers give you this lag? Is powersaving mod = powersaving mode? That may also cause lag, you really need performance mode.
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#1605 [15:45] <mib_tyoekj> Hi my minecraft is really laggy and it is making my computer laggy too
#1606 [15:45] <Lykkepillen> Will Minecraft prevent me from adding an out of date texture pack?
#1607 [15:46] <Serone> wel first yes all every servers and my comp can use high performance but i want to prevent my cpu usage and my memory never got higher then 2.00 gb
#1608 [15:46] <Lykkepillen> mib_tyoekj: Is the graphic settings set to fast?
#1609 [15:46] <mib_tyoekj> yes
#1610 [15:46] <AureliusM> mib_tyoek: What are your computer specs? CPU RAM and GPU.
#1611 [15:46] <Serone> mne?
#1612 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Lykkepillen - It will not
#1613 [15:46] <mib_tyoekj> idk
#1614 [15:46] <Serone> mine?
#1615 [15:46] <Lykkepillen> Is Performance also set till "Performance: MAX FPS"?
#1616 [15:46] <Serone> but the new item will be purple blocks
#1617 [15:47] <Lykkepillen> GreyVulpine: What filetypes will it accept? .Zip?
#1618 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes. .zip
#1619 [15:47] <Serone> so at my problem i should test it with balanced
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#1621 [15:47] <Serone> ?
#1622 [15:47] <mib_ruv4lf> have you temviewer?
#1623 [15:47] <mib_tyoekj> how do I find out
#1624 [15:47] <AureliusM> Serone: Lykkepillen just reminded me another thing that might help is to reduce Minecraft's video options, say to Fast, and distance to Normal or Short. I have similar specs and I must do the same
#1625 [15:48] <Lykkepillen> Then what could the reason be that i can't select it?
#1626 [15:48] <mib_ruv4lf> I figure it is not the degree.
#1627 [15:48] <Serone> i will try
#1628 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Lykkepillen - HD texture pack without the fix?
#1629 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Lykkepillen - Did you unzip the file instead of leaving it as a zip
#1630 [15:48] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: If you have problems with any step, please ask.
#1631 [15:48] <mib_tyoekj> how do i find out
#1632 [15:49] <Lykkepillen> GreyVulpine: http://www.planetminecraft.com/texture_pack/hd-ak-47-with-ammo-and-bullets-for-arrows/
#1633 [15:49] <Lykkepillen> It wouldn't accept the unzipped file (It didn't show)
#1634 [15:49] <mib_ruv4lf> I do not know how to explain it.
#1635 [15:50] <Lykkepillen> Oh.. It is HD..
#1636 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Lykkepillen - First off, it's an HD texture pack. You need to mod minecraft with the fix for it
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#1638 [15:50] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Sorry, I missed reading your last messages, yes I do have teamviewer. Can you explain in German?
#1639 [15:50] <mib_tyoekj> I hate u guys you suck
#1640 [15:50] <mib_yxizrq> er der nogen på dansk som kan hjælpe med et spørgsmål?
#1641 [15:50] <Lykkepillen> mib_yxizrq: Spørg løs :)
#1642 [15:51] <Lykkepillen> GreyVulpine: Yea, thanks :)
#1643 [15:51] <mib_ruv4lf> I'm trying :P.
#1644 [15:51] <Serone> i am trying to update it to 1.1 cuz i was having many mods on lke teinc pack
#1645 [15:52] <ZLolie> Why is it that minecraft goes to black login if option to not update is picked? I removed java 7 and deleted %appdata% mincraft folder (which goes into 1.1 update automatically) but want to not update now cause can't log into server I use (not sure if they have not updated) so reverted back to old save, and it just goes to blank screen after loading without update.
#1646 [15:53] <Serone> its the server i a playing on think or t might be powersaving mod
#1647 [15:53] <xales> ZLolie: If you deleted the .minecraft folder, then you need to update to play, as you no longer have Minecraft installed.
#1648 [15:53] <mib_ruv4lf> also...ich habe jetzt das textdokument gemacht und das hier eingefügt:java-Xmx256M-Xms256m-cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame Go up to File -> Save as. ich habe auch das textdokument in run.bat geändert. aber nun bin ich mir nicht sicher was ich noch machen soll. da steht dass ich alle dateien so nennen soll aber wie? soll ich am besten nochmal ein
#1649 [15:53] <Serone> bye and thx
#1650 [15:53] <mib_ruv4lf> ein screen vom ordner und der datei machen?
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#1652 [15:55] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Ist die ertse Zeile von den run.bat = java -Xmx256M -Xms256m -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1653 [15:56] <mib_yxizrq> min søn spiller på en computer, og her er + det som styrer billedet (personen). Når jeg åbner på min computer, så er + langsomt samt der kommer en pil (coursor) hele tiden... Forstår du hvad jeg mener? Svært at forklare...
#1654 [15:56] <ZLolie> ok, I did delete the mc folder but had it backed up\
#1655 [15:56] <mib_ruv4lf> ja ist in der ersten zeile
#1656 [15:56] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Dass hesit, mit Lehrraum zwischen java und -Xmx256M und auch zwusschen -Xms256m und -cp uns so weiter ?
#1657 [15:57] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Ok, und die zweite Zeile soll eine Wort sein: pause
#1658 [15:57] <mib_ruv4lf> zweite oder erste?
#1659 [15:57] <mib_ruv4lf> dritte sry
#1660 [15:57] <mib_ruv4lf> zweite oder dritte?
#1661 [15:58] <ZLolie> When ran mc it auto updated to 1.1 without even asking..... but I dont want to do the update yet cause the server I play on is outdated or something that does not let me in so.... reverted back to my backup save and choose = do not update mc yet = loads but then gives me black screen
#1662 [15:59] <ZLolie> removed texture packs and still same thing
#1663 [15:59] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Dann, wenn Sie der datei sparrten (=save auf deutsch hoffe ich), muessen sie das "dateityp" aendern = "Change the file type to "all files" . Also, nicht als text, aber als .bat.
#1664 [16:00] <ZLolie> I see the game loading.... it says download complete.... lingers for a few min there then goes into black screen ...... any clues from anyone?
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#1666 [16:01] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Meine Computer ist gleich beschaeftigt (und ueberlastet) mit TrustedInstaller, dH es wird schwer teamviewer zu nutzten fuer den naecshten 20-30 Minuten
#1667 [16:01] <SpeedStar5> hey
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#1669 [16:02] <SpeedStar5> Anyone know if you can download older versions of the server? Didnt mean to upgrade it to 1.1 and want 1.0.1 again
#1670 [16:02] <mib_yxizrq> Lykkepillen, - forstår du mig?
#1671 [16:02] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Warte, guck mal an: http://pastebin.com/fhivjLdY <-- Es soll so ausziehen, aber ohne die ertse Ziel
#1672 [16:03] <mib_ruv4lf> jop hab ich jetzt so
#1673 [16:04] <mib_ruv4lf> habe jetzt auch dateityp .bat...
#1674 [16:04] <AureliusM> SpeedStar5: I've not seen an archive of older server versions. That question was asked on the McNostalgia thread with the only answer as : No.
#1675 [16:04] <mib_ruv4lf> was nun? soll ich dei andere datei jetzt auch auf .bat machen?
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#1677 [16:04] <SpeedStar5> ok thanks
#1678 [16:05] <Evan> can someone help me please ?
#1679 [16:05] <Evan> can someone help me please ?
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#1681 [16:05] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Ok, dH wenn Sie der datei run.bat doppelklicken, sie soll .. ehm .. laufen / starten .
#1682 [16:06] <Evan> IS ANY1 THERE. please i need just a lil help
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#1684 [16:07] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Was fuer andere Datei? Es soll nur eine, run.bat.
#1685 [16:07] <mib_ruv4lf> moment ich mache ein screen und lade es hoch. da kann was nicht stimmen
#1686 [16:07] <AureliusM> Evan: please state your problem
#1687 [16:08] <Evan> ok thanks for replying. im having alot of lag in minecraft resently ive not had it long. i get like 4-5fps even on tiny
#1688 [16:08] <Evan> and fast not fancy grafhics
#1689 [16:08] <Evan> and max fps
#1690 [16:08] <Evan> and max fps
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#1692 [16:09] <mib_ruv4lf> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/unbenanntem.png/
#1693 [16:10] <Evan> so can you help me ?
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#1695 [16:11] <Evan> pleaseeee
#1696 [16:11] <AureliusM> Evan: And it was faster before the update? Or Beta 1.8 and before? Check the graphics card is set to run on performance for Java and minecraft. Check memory use is not reaching or exceeding the physical RAM.
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#1698 [16:13] <Evan> woah woah slow down. im new to this sorry. yes it was faster before the update 1.1. ive updated my graphics but i dont no how do set performance. and this laptop is new-ish (christmas) so i dont think i would exeed
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#1700 [16:16] <AnimalSoundss> hello! is anyone on that can help with a updating a private server?
#1701 [16:16] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Seiner run.bat ist eigentlich run.bat.txt , aber Windows hat die Dateinamenerweiterunge ".txt" ausgeblendet / versteckt (English hidden). Kenne ich nicht mit deutsche Windows XP, aber fuer Vista, siehe: http://windows.microsoft.com/de-DE/windows-vista/Show-or-hide-file-name-extensions
#1702 [16:17] <AureliusM> Evan: can you do a dxdiag to get the details, instructions follow:
#1703 [16:17] <AureliusM> Evan: Forgot to ask, Windows?
#1704 [16:18] <Evan> windows 7
#1705 [16:18] <AureliusM> ??> Evan win/dxdiag
#1706 [16:18] <VoxelHead> Evan: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1707 [16:18] <VoxelHead> Evan: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1708 [16:18] <Evan> wait where am i typing win/dxdiag
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#1710 [16:19] <AureliusM> AnimalSoundss: What problem are you having? I just download the new minecraft_server.jar to my server folder. But if you have bukkit, then #bukkit has the experts
#1711 [16:20] <AureliusM> Evan: after you click the Windows Start button you should have an area for typing, I think it has the word search in ot
#1712 [16:20] <AureliusM> Evan: *in it*
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#1714 [16:21] <Evan> yea it says 'search programs and files. is that it ?
#1715 [16:21] <AureliusM> Evan: yes
#1716 [16:22] <Evan> when i type it in it says no search results
#1717 [16:22] <AnimalSoundss> Aureliusm: I have the Minecraft_server.exe for windows that you download on the main minecraft website. Just wondering how to update it to 1.1
#1718 [16:23] <AureliusM> Evan: http://res2.windows.microsoft.com/resbox/en/Windows%207/main/68440ea7-68ec-4e2f-ad4f-b33006455983_56.jpg <- You type dxdiag in that box and press Enter key, and a DxDiagnostics should run
#1719 [16:23] <mib_ruv4lf> ja jetzt sehe ich es aber wie änder ich es dann?
#1720 [16:23] <mib_yxizrq> can anyone tell me, why my coursor has influence on the + sign??
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#1722 [16:23] <Calinou> AnimalSoundss: re-download it on the minecraft downloads sign
#1723 [16:23] <Calinou> mib_yxizrq: your mouse cursor appears over the crosshair?
#1724 [16:23] <ollywalker> i need help
#1725 [16:24] <Calinou> weird problem. never seen it
#1726 [16:24] <AureliusM> Evan: -> http://www.pctips3000.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/DXDIAG.jpg
#1727 [16:24] <Calinou> and yes... basically moving your mouse aims. :P
#1728 [16:24] <AnimalSoundss> Calinou: won't that completely reset the world, and all our builds?
#1729 [16:24] <ollywalker> help please
#1730 [16:24] <Calinou> ollywalker: to update your server, redownload the server .exe/.jar
#1731 [16:24] <ollywalker> but
#1732 [16:24] <Calinou> AnimalSoundss: only touch the Minecraft_Server.exe, not the other files
#1733 [16:24] <ollywalker> i am using bukkit
#1734 [16:24] <mib_yxizrq> Yes, if the + is called crosshair, - that is correct
#1735 [16:24] <Calinou> download the new .exe or .jar (depends of your system - jar also works on windows under certain circumstances)
#1736 [16:25] <ollywalker> and mcmyadmin on the web
#1737 [16:25] <Calinou> mib_yxizrq: some texture packs may edit or remove the crosshair
#1738 [16:25] <mib_ruv4lf> ok hat sich erledigt. aber habe immer noch das gleiche problem wie vorher schwarzes fenster und danach schließt es sich wieder
#1739 [16:25] <ollywalker> calinou
#1740 [16:25] <ollywalker> i fly need to know what to di
#1741 [16:25] <ollywalker> *do
#1742 [16:26] <Evan> ok ive finished the diognostic thing and got the page up . Now what ??
#1743 [16:26] <AnimalSoundss> Calinou: so after redownloading it, just replace the old .exe with the new one I downloaded, right?
#1744 [16:26] <Calinou> AnimalSoundss: yeah, it will not touch already generated world
#1745 [16:26] <Calinou> however newly generated chunks (= unexplored terrain) will contain new content
#1746 [16:26] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Auf Windows XP habe fast alles vergessen, aber in einer Ordner es soll ein menuitem "Tools" geben. Auf Englisch: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/865219
#1747 [16:26] <ollywalker> calinou: please i really need help
#1748 [16:26] <Calinou> already generated stuff will not get new content, like snowy taigs/beaches/hilly deserts
#1749 [16:26] <AnimalSoundss> Calinou: fantastic, you are a gentleman
#1750 [16:27] <Calinou> ollywalker: I told you :) download the minecraft server on the downloads page: http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1751 [16:27] <ollywalker> no
#1752 [16:27] <ollywalker> but i don't want that
#1753 [16:27] <ollywalker> i need bukkit
#1754 [16:27] <ollywalker> and i am renting the server
#1755 [16:27] <Evan> ok ive finished the diognostic thing and got the page up . Now what ??
#1756 [16:27] <Calinou> bukkit is NOT updated for 1.1 yet - there are _unstable_ versions available
#1757 [16:27] <Calinou> use at your own risk.
#1758 [16:28] <ollywalker> oh
#1759 [16:28] <Evan> IS AURELIUSM STILL SPEAKING
#1760 [16:29] <mib_ruv4lf> I write in english again. I guess is better for you?
#1761 [16:29] <Calinou> Evan: post it to pastebin: http://pastebin.com
#1762 [16:29] <Calinou> copy-paste the contents
#1763 [16:29] <Calinou> mib_ruv4lf: yes, english please. :)
#1764 [16:29] <Evan> ok thank you for replying
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#1766 [16:30] <mib_ruv4lf> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/651/unbenanntixl.png/ nothing has really changed. still black window and then it closes again. when I press a button nothing happens.
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#1768 [16:30] <Calinou> oldtopmanserver: http://ci.bukkit.org/job/dev-CraftBukkit/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/target/craftbukkit-1.1-R1-SNAPSHOT.jar
#1769 [16:30] <Calinou> use at your own risk - don't forget to edit your startup script
#1770 [16:31] <Calinou> since the name of the jar has changed (or edit the jar's name)
#1771 [16:32] <Evan> OK ITS BEEN PASTED. PLEASE CHECK IT OUT
#1772 [16:32] <Calinou> mib_ruv4lf: is your computer a 64-bit system? seems fairly unlikely though since you're on XP
#1773 [16:32] <Calinou> Evan: now send us the link. :)
#1774 [16:32] <Evan> OK
#1775 [16:33] <Evan> http://pastebin.com/NixX92bi
#1776 [16:33] <mib_ruv4lf> Calinou no i have 32 bit. why?
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#1778 [16:34] <wikkit> minecraft crashes after logo
#1779 [16:34] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: A bit easier in English, yes. Ok, you ran run.bat which uses less memory but still get the same crash. In opengl.GL11.glTexCoordPointer . What does Taskmanager show for memory (Speicher) ?
#1780 [16:35] <wikkit> i had no problems befor
#1781 [16:35] <Calinou> mib_ruv4lf: if you are on a 64 bit system use 64 bit java, that's why
#1782 [16:36] <Calinou> mib_ruv4lf: what is your graphics card? amount of memory?
#1783 [16:36] <mib_ruv4lf> AureliusM Committed memory? + / - 800 m
#1784 [16:36] <Calinou> ?? win/dxdiag
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#1786 [16:36] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1787 [16:36] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1788 [16:36] <Calinou> wikkit: read what VoxelHead said
#1789 [16:36] <mib_4sphnt> hello
#1790 [16:36] <Calinou> hi
#1791 [16:36] <mib_4sphnt> can someone help me out?
#1792 [16:36] <AureliusM> Calinou: mib_ruv4lf's dxdiag is http://pastebin.com/dEHUTnxq and shows 960 RAM but only 32 MB display memory
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#1794 [16:36] <gnaeh> Hello everyone. Are there ways to acquire old (specially 1.0.1) server builds of minecraft? The web is full of ways to download and downgrade your client, but the servers are not covered.
#1795 [16:36] <Calinou> 32MB display memory - seems you have a very old graphics card
#1796 [16:37] <wikkit> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 2012-01-13 22:
#1797 [16:37] <Calinou> contrary to common belief minecraft requires a good graphics card...
#1798 [16:37] <Calinou> it sometimes renders up to 300000 polygons, that is a lot.
#1799 [16:37] <clarjon1> yup
#1800 [16:37] <Calinou> not counting all the mobs/etc
#1801 [16:37] <clarjon1> just cuz it LOOKS retro
#1802 [16:37] <clarjon1> doesn't mean that it can handle a retro computer
#1803 [16:37] <mib_4sphnt> i just went to go play mine craft and it said would i like to update i clicked yes and it started then it stopped and said it couldn't locate the file mine craft on my computer. I'm using a mac
#1804 [16:38] <Calinou> there is no "remipping", that would be too slow for updating, but would be usable for adventure maps (and requiring a huge rewrite. ;)
#1805 [16:38] <AureliusM> Calinou: about mib_ruv4lf's GPU reports it supports OpenGLL 1.4, is that enough ?
#1806 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> AureliusM - What video card?
#1807 [16:38] <Calinou> AureliusM: it is - however... if he has a very old video card minecraft will probably run in a very choppy way
#1808 [16:38] <Evan> http://pastebin.com/NixX92bi
#1809 [16:38] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf's GPU details: http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8562/unbenanntqo.png
#1810 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> "SiS 661", hello no.
#1811 [16:38] <mib_4sphnt> ??????anybody????
#1812 [16:39] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf's GPU Card name: Fujitsu Siemens Computers SiS661FX on board Graphics
#1813 [16:39] <Morrolan> mib_4sphnt - What is the exact error message you get?
#1814 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> AureliusM - Card's too old.
#1815 [16:39] <Evan> SOME1 PLEASE REPLY TO ME
#1816 [16:39] <mib_4sphnt> i just went to go play mine craft and it said would i like to update i clicked yes and it started then it stopped and said it couldn't locate the file mine craft on my computer. I'm using a mac and it could not find the mine craft folder in my library how can i reinstall mine craft so it puts that folder back
#1817 [16:39] <Morrolan> Evan - What is the _exact_ error message you get?
#1818 [16:40] <Morrolan> Uh, sorry, not Evan, mib_4sphnt I meant.
#1819 [16:40] <AureliusM> GreyVulpine: That's what I thought, but I found old German 2005 forums where they said its OpenGL worked but was slow, so I was hoping against hope
#1820 [16:40] <mib_4sphnt> um letme look
#1821 [16:40] <Morrolan> Evan - Just wait for whoever told you to get a dxdiag to come back to you. :)
#1822 [16:40] <mib_4sphnt> error code (4)
#1823 [16:41] <Evan> i will but i have been waiting bout 10mins
#1824 [16:41] <Calinou> AureliusM: on board graphics almost always run minecraft unplayably
#1825 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> mib_4sphnt - What's the full error?
#1826 [16:41] <Calinou> my netbook runs minecraft at 15 FPS on tiny+fast - maybe 20 with optifine
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#1828 [16:41] <Calinou> I consider 30+ playable, 50+ smooth
#1829 [16:41] <Morrolan> Meh, 20 is playable already. :)
#1830 [16:41] <Morrolan> If you're used to it, that is. :P
#1831 [16:41] <mib_ruv4lf> Calinou I could live with but it does not open in time. and that bothers me a bit =(
#1832 [16:42] <mib_4sphnt> failed to launch /users/myname/library/applicationsupport/minecraft/bin/mi something it doesn't display all away across screen
#1833 [16:42] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: sorry, it looks like your graphics card is too old for Minecraft . Here are some unofficial requirements for Minecraft: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-3.html
#1834 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Evan - Nothing you can do with your computer. It has integrated intel graphics. You won't get much better out of it
#1835 [16:42] <mib_4sphnt> hold on
#1836 [16:43] <mib_4sphnt> okay
#1837 [16:43] <Evan> but why then does it run so slow ??????i have a good laptop though
#1838 [16:43] <Morrolan> /msg *status loadmod admin
#1839 [16:43] <Evan> CMON THERES GOTTA BE SOMETHING
#1840 [16:43] <Morrolan> yea, right, not what I wanted. -.
#1841 [16:43] <Evan> like 4fps on tiny ?????/
#1842 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Evan - It's a rather crappy laptop
#1843 [16:43] <mib_ruv4lf> AureliusM the game is not only because of the graphics card?
#1844 [16:44] <Evan> no it aint. how is it ? please explain
#1845 [16:44] <mib_4sphnt> ?
#1846 [16:44] <Morrolan> Evan - I assume you already tried your luck with Optifine? No clue how much use it'll be with such a laptop though.
#1847 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> evan - You have an intel HD graphics chipset. it's not a video card, it's an integrated video chipset. It's NOT suited for gaming
#1848 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Evan - it's like having a ferrari, with a 4 cylinder engine
#1849 [16:45] <AureliusM> Evan: it was probably me that asked for the dxdiag, looking at it now
#1850 [16:45] <mib_4sphnt> okay i got the whole error code
#1851 [16:45] <AureliusM> Evan: -> Satellite C660
#1852 [16:45] <Morrolan> Oh, nice, mib_4sphnt. :)
#1853 [16:45] <Evan> so if i got a video card would it be better
#1854 [16:45] <Evan> yea i got that
#1855 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Evan - Yes. with a new computer
#1856 [16:46] <AureliusM> Evan: theres' a well known problem with the c660
#1857 [16:46] <Evan> but i just got this laptop
#1858 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> It is not possible to update the video card on a laptop
#1859 [16:46] <mib_4sphnt> fatal error occurred (4): /users/myname/library/application support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#1860 [16:46] <Evan> i dunno ?
#1861 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_4sphnt mac/reinst
#1862 [16:46] <VoxelHead> mib_4sphnt: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1863 [16:46] <VoxelHead> mib_4sphnt: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1864 [16:46] <mib_4sphnt> mac
#1865 [16:46] <AureliusM> ??> Evan c660
#1866 [16:46] <VoxelHead> Evan: (c660) The Toshiba C660 laptop has known issues with its GPU drivers. Please follow the directions here: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
#1867 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> AureliusM - Already updated
#1868 [16:47] <mib_4sphnt> yeah the mine craft folder is gone though :(
#1869 [16:47] <Morrolan> Are you looking in the correct "Library", mib_4sphnt?
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#1871 [16:48] <Morrolan> There is one in the system folder as well as the user folder. THe one you want is the one in your user folder.
#1872 [16:48] <mib_ruv4lf> AureliusM is still crap. 've now spent an extra 20 € and then I find out that it does not work, because my video card is too old.
#1873 [16:48] <Evan> ive been on this site before because i couldnt run it so i updated my grafics and it worked. so how would it make any difference
#1874 [16:48] * AureliusM just caught up reading Evan's case
#1874 [16:48] <mib_4sphnt> yes i went into library then application support and there is no mine craft folder
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#1876 [16:48] <Morrolan> Yes, but did you go into the library in your home folder, mib_4sphnt?
#1877 [16:49] <mib_20dwtq> My minecraft runs out of memory after a few minutes of playing can you help?
#1878 [16:49] <mib_4sphnt> yeah
#1879 [16:49] <Morrolan> mib_20dwtq - Are you on a 64 or 32 bit system? Also, would you please change your nick using "/nick newnickhere"? Getting a bit confusing. :D
#1880 [16:49] <Evan> ive already downloaded that link you sent me VoxelHead
#1881 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_4sphnt - Mac OS lion?
#1882 [16:49] <mib_4sphnt> yess
#1883 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_4sphnt - Hit command+shift+g
#1884 [16:49] <mib_4sphnt> but it was there before i played yesterday night
#1885 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> In the go to folder, please put in: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#1886 [16:50] <mib_4sphnt> okay
#1887 [16:51] <mib_4sphnt> now what it opened
#1888 [16:51] <gnaeh> sorry to repeat myself, but havent found it so far somewhere: Are there ways to acquire old (specially 1.0.1) server builds of minecraft? The web is full of ways to download and downgrade your client, but the servers are not covered.
#1889 [16:51] <Morrolan> mib_4sphnt - Now remove all the folders except the "saves" one from that folder.
#1890 [16:52] <Evan> so what is my laptop so crap. is there any way i can increase fps without getting a new laptop
#1891 [16:52] <mib_4sphnt> what about loose files such as last login
#1892 [16:52] <Morrolan> gnaeh - You could use an unofficial tool like "MCNostalgia"
#1893 [16:52] <Morrolan> mib_4sphnt - These too. :)
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#1895 [16:52] <Puddles> hi
#1896 [16:52] <mib_4sphnt> okay
#1897 [16:52] <Morrolan> hey Puddles
#1898 [16:52] <Puddles> how do i downgrade to 1.0
#1899 [16:53] <Morrolan> You will have to use an unofficial tool like "MCNostalgia", Puddles.
#1900 [16:53] <mib_4sphnt> okay now what
#1901 [16:53] <Puddles> wats that
#1902 [16:53] <clarjon1> or restore from backup
#1903 [16:53] <Morrolan> Now start Minecraft again, and look whether it works this time, mib_4sphnt.
#1904 [16:53] <clarjon1> you DID make backups, right?
#1905 [16:53] <AureliusM> mib_ruv4lf: Problem is Minecraft needs a reasonably modern machine. With a decent graphics adapter. Es tut mir leid. Meine PC ist auch etwas alt - 2004 aber mit eine Nvidia 6500 karte.
#1906 [16:53] <Morrolan> Puddles - A tool to downgrade Minecraft if you don't have any backups.
#1907 [16:53] <Evan> PLEASE SOME1 REPLY
#1908 [16:53] <Puddles> does it work on a Mac?
#1909 [16:54] <Morrolan> Puddles - Uh, I think it's Python or Java or something, so it should, yes.
#1910 [16:54] <AureliusM> Evan: ok, did you check the graphics card is actually runing for Java?
#1911 [16:54] <Puddles> k thx
#1912 [16:54] <Puddles> till be back if it doesnt world
#1913 [16:54] <Puddles> work*
#1914 [16:54] <Morrolan> Evan - You would have to put it a new graphics card, which can't be done with a laptop.
#1915 [16:54] <mib_4sphnt> Hey i just want to thank you guys. you've been a great help :)
#1916 [16:54] <Evan> k so there is no way at all i could increase fps then
#1917 [16:54] <Morrolan> Sure thing, mib_4sphnt. Have fun with Minecraft. :)
#1918 [16:54] <mib_4sphnt> ttyl
#1919 [16:55] <Morrolan> Evan - Sorry but yea, your chances aren't all that well.
#1920 [16:55] <AureliusM> Evan: true your CPU is good, but the 64MB memory of the GPU looks rather low.
#1921 [16:55] <Evan> is there a way i could get my money back
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#1923 [16:56] <gnaeh> Morrolan than you, but this is just for clients i think.
#1924 [16:56] <mib_ruv4lf> AureliusM thanks anyway for the effort.
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#1926 [16:56] <gnaeh> im looking for server 1.0.1
#1927 [16:57] <Morrolan> gnaeh - Oh, I see.
#1928 [16:57] <mib_ruv4lf> AureliusM But you can somehow get back the money?
#1929 [16:57] <Morrolan> Yea, not sure whether MCNostalgia handles server files too. You could ask in #risucraft , they might know of one.
#1930 [16:57] <Morrolan> mib_ruv4lf - Mojang doesn't give out refunds.
#1931 [16:57] <Evan> so because i have this un fix-able problem could i get my money bck from minecraft
#1932 [16:57] <Morrolan> Same for you, Evan.
#1933 [16:57] <claude> Minecraft crashes when I try to log in. I have no mods installed and I have a MAC OS X version 10.6.8
#1934 [16:57] <AureliusM> Evan: try http://forums.computers.toshiba-europe.com/forums/index.jspa there are several C660 owners with similar performance problems, they might have more tips to help performance
#1935 [16:58] <gnaeh> Morrolan - thanks for your help I'll try it.
#1936 [16:58] <Evan> ok thanks at least its something to build on
#1937 [16:58] <Evan> i was literally going to throw my laptop out the window
#1938 [16:59] <AureliusM> Evan: there's some Gaming posts here: http://boardreader.com/fp/Toshiba_Support_Forums_15342265/Gaming_13894692.html
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#1941 [17:00] <Blue> I have had an account on Minecraft for a while
#1942 [17:00] <Evan> thanks i guess.
#1943 [17:00] <claude> Can someone help me? Minecraft crashes when I try to log in. I have no mods installed and I have a MAC OS X version 10.6.8
#1944 [17:00] <Evan> its a shame because i loved minecraft
#1945 [17:00] <Morrolan> claude - Did it ever work before?
#1946 [17:00] <claude> yes
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#1948 [17:01] <poopz> how do i set up my own minecraft server??
#1949 [17:01] <claude> it happened at the newest update
#1950 [17:01] <Morrolan> Evan - Well, as soon as you've got a new laptop / PC you can install it again, since your acccount doesn't expire or anyhting. :)
#1951 [17:01] <Morrolan> !server
#1952 [17:01] * mib_mdt5cy [mib_mdt5cy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1953 [17:01] <mib_mdt5cy> yo can someone help me here
#1954 [17:01] <poopz> how do i set it up/
#1955 [17:01] <Morrolan> ??< index
#1956 [17:02] <mib_mdt5cy> with my minecraft
#1957 [17:02] <Morrolan> give me a second, poopz, trying to find the wiki article
#1958 [17:02] <poopz> HAHAH YOU SAID poopz
#1959 [17:02] <Blue> I have to change e-mails because of a different internet provider
#1960 [17:02] <Blue> Can someone help with this...
#1961 [17:02] <Morrolan> poopz - Pft, less joking please. :P
#1962 [17:02] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server <- follow this guide.
#1963 [17:02] <poopz> hehe
#1964 [17:02] <mib_mdt5cy> hello can someone help me with my minecraft im getting pissed off at it right now
#1965 [17:03] <Morrolan> Blue - You will have to send a mail to help@mojang.com , explaining your situation I'm afraid.
#1966 [17:03] <Morrolan> mib_mdt5cy - Patience please.
#1967 [17:03] <Blue> thanks
#1968 [17:03] <Morrolan> Explain your issue, then wait for a reply, mib_mdt5cy. :)
#1969 [17:03] <Morrolan> claude - Hmm, try to force an update. Start the launcher -> Options -> FOrce update, then log in as usual.
#1970 [17:03] <claude> I already did
#1971 [17:06] <Morrolan> claude - Hmm, let's try to reinstall it completely then. FOllow these instructions please
#1972 [17:06] <Morrolan> ??> claude mac/reinst
#1973 [17:06] <VoxelHead> claude: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1974 [17:06] <AureliusM> mib_mdt5cy: Give us the error message you are getting, if it is long paste it in pastebin.com and give us the link
#1975 [17:06] <VoxelHead> claude: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1976 [17:07] <claude> ok ill try
#1977 [17:08] <claude> It still crashed
#1978 [17:09] <poopz> ok how does me make a server ;D
#1979 [17:10] <AureliusM> ??> poopz smp/serversetup
#1980 [17:10] <VoxelHead> poopz: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#1981 [17:10] <VoxelHead> poopz: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1982 [17:10] <poopz> kk thnx
#1983 [17:10] <poopz> LOL U SAID POOPZ
#1984 [17:11] <claude> Morrolan it still crashed
#1985 [17:11] <Morrolan> Mweh. It's kinda strange that it suddendly stopped working.
#1986 [17:11] <Morrolan> poopz - I think everyone's got it by now.
#1987 [17:12] <Morrolan> claude - You could try to create a new mac profile, to check whether it's an issue with your current profile. :/
#1988 [17:12] <Morrolan> ??> claude mac/profile
#1989 [17:12] <VoxelHead> claude: (mac/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1990 [17:12] <VoxelHead> claude: (mac/profile) Please create a new system account (System Preferences => Accounts, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1991 [17:13] <claude> ok
#1992 [17:16] * MusiiiicDuDe [MusiiiicDuDe@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1993 [17:17] <MusiiiicDuDe> Hello! I got a problem with minecraft. it seems it cant accelerate pixel format or something. Neither 1.0.0 or Minecraft Classic is working.
#1994 [17:18] <poopz> i dont understand any of these instructions
#1995 [17:19] <MusiiiicDuDe> Ok. I simply cant run minecraft.
#1996 [17:19] <MusiiiicDuDe> It says i have bad video card drivers
#1997 [17:20] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: ok, and have you tried to update drivers from the manufacturer's website or graphics card maker?
#1998 [17:21] <MusiiiicDuDe> Yes i have. They are up to date
#1999 [17:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> theyre pretty self explanatory pojojoe
#2000 [17:21] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Windows?
#2001 [17:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> oops, poopz
#2002 [17:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> not pojo
#2003 [17:21] <MusiiiicDuDe> Windows 7
#2004 [17:21] <AureliusM> ??> MusiiiicDuDe win/dxdiag
#2005 [17:21] <VoxelHead> MusiiiicDuDe: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2006 [17:21] <VoxelHead> MusiiiicDuDe: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2007 [17:21] <poopz> what do i do i just dont understanf
#2008 [17:21] <poopz> *stand
#2009 [17:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> follow the instructions on the page
#2010 [17:22] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Please follow Voxelhead's instructions so we can get your system specs, that should help find the cause
#2011 [17:22] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok
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#2013 [17:22] <poopz> i dont understand them it says all this stuff about java and commands nd stuff is there any SIMPLE ways of me creating a server just for me and a few friends to play on?
#2014 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> poopz - Nope
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#2016 [17:24] <MusiiiicDuDe> Ok here it is
#2017 [17:24] <MusiiiicDuDe> http://pastebin.com/Ew1UHAXX
#2018 [17:24] <poopz> So what is the BASIC things i need to do i just dont understand
#2019 [17:24] <Claeri> poopz I made a video tutorial on how to make a craftbukkit server if you want to take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKmSsCdwsyA&context=C3fecbcaADOEgsToPDskKXNrBvPBZhaK1GG_sEgB-l
#2020 [17:25] <MusiiiicDuDe> So And i just wanna add that i have been able to play before, it suddenly just wouldnt work one day
#2021 [17:25] <poopz> K is it EASYY PEASSY??:D
#2022 [17:25] <Claeri> sort of...
#2023 [17:25] <poopz> im on windows 7
#2024 [17:25] <poopz> is it the same basis?
#2025 [17:25] <Claeri> i thik it will work for windows
#2026 [17:25] <Claeri> I have a mac
#2027 [17:26] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Thanks, card is ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4330, that should work, I'm looking up the details on the Micro-Star International, and the CPU is Ok. Can you paste us the error log?
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#2029 [17:26] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok but just so u know i have been able to play the game. it just suddenly one day wouldnt start
#2030 [17:27] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: What changed since it worked? Is there a graphics driver control panel that can set performace or power saving?
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#2032 [17:27] <MusiiiicDuDe> Nope
#2033 [17:27] <MusiiiicDuDe> Where can i find the error log?
#2034 [17:27] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Look for a file named hs_err_id_somenumbers
#2035 [17:27] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok
#2036 [17:28] <Blue> My email adress is changing. Why can't my Minecraft account change as well?
#2037 [17:28] <Blue> Like change to a different email
#2038 [17:28] <MusiiiicDuDe> it didnt find any hs_err_id_
#2039 [17:28] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: If you cannoy find one, follow these instructions to make a batch command: http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#2040 [17:28] <poopz> because it has poop clogged up
#2041 [17:29] <Blue> shut up poopz
#2042 [17:29] <Blue> Go somewhere else
#2043 [17:29] <poopz> calm down
#2044 [17:29] <poopz> im only kiddin
#2045 [17:30] <Blue> Could I please get some help?
#2046 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> !k poopz
#2047 [17:30] * GreyBot kicked poopz from #minecrafthelp (Reason: oopz :<Kicks:900>)
#2048 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Blue - Email help@mojang.com
#2049 [17:30] <Blue> I have already...
#2050 [17:30] <Blue> Should i just wait?
#2051 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> That's all we can tell you to do
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#2053 [17:30] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: The graphics driver date is 12/28/2011 - before that date did Minecraft run? You said 1.0 did not run, but what about beta 1.8 ?
#2054 [17:30] <Blue> Ok
#2055 [17:31] <Blue> Thanks, i guess
#2056 [17:31] <Blue> Thanks, i guess
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#2058 [17:31] <MusiiiicDuDe> Beta 1.8 does not work
#2059 [17:31] <MusiiiicDuDe> Ok i have found the error log now
#2060 [17:31] * mib_bm3exy [mib_bm3exy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2061 [17:32] <mib_bm3exy> what do i do when it says, "Bad video card drivers" ?
#2062 [17:32] <Blue> How much does it usually take to fix an account problem via internet?
#2063 [17:32] <Blue> I have limited time...
#2064 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Blue - It depends, Mojang gets hundreds of emails daily
#2065 [17:32] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Ok, good paste it in pastebin like before.
#2066 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Blue - They also have a small staff.
#2067 [17:32] <Blue> I know
#2068 [17:33] <MusiiiicDuDe> http://pastebin.com/cwrShPuw
#2069 [17:33] <Blue> But i only have three hours before my old email gets deactivated
#2070 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Blue - You realize Mojang is based in Sweden, right?
#2071 [17:33] <Blue> Indeed
#2072 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Blue - What time do you think it is in Sweden right now?
#2073 [17:33] <Blue> ...
#2074 [17:33] <Blue> Good point
#2075 [17:33] <Claeri> Can someone help me? I have a Mac OS X Version 10.6.8 and minecraft crashes when I try to log in. I have force updated and it works if I play it on another profile (computer profile not minecraft) on the same computer but I dont want to have to re-log in whenever I want to play minecraft. What should I do?
#2076 [17:34] <MusiiiicDuDe> In sweden it is 23.33
#2077 [17:34] <Blue> Well
#2078 [17:34] <Blue> I'll just never play Minecraft again
#2079 [17:34] <Blue> Good bye
#2080 [17:35] <Omega_Guardian> could send an email to them saying what your new one is
#2081 [17:35] <mib_bm3exy> what do i do when it says, "Bad video card drivers" ?
#2082 [17:35] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Ok, the relevant part of the error log has: C [awt.dll+0xb70d0] D3DVertexCacher
#2083 [17:36] <mib_bm3exy> what do i do?
#2084 [17:36] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok and what does that meen?
#2085 [17:36] <MusiiiicDuDe> It was in my error log i pasted right?
#2086 [17:36] <mib_bm3exy> ?
#2087 [17:37] <Claeri> Can someone help me? I have a Mac OS X Version 10.6.8 and minecraft crashes when I try to log in. I have force updated and it works if I play it on another profile (computer profile not minecraft) on the same computer but I dont want to have to re-log in whenever I want to play minecraft. What should I do?
#2088 [17:37] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Usually it means the graphics drivers are not up to date, but here it might be Java. Let's check: click Start click Control Panel and double click the Java icon
#2089 [17:37] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok and now what?
#2090 [17:38] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: click the Jva tab and click the View button, it should list only one Java product, 1.6
#2091 [17:38] <MusiiiicDuDe> it does
#2092 [17:38] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Have you had mods or high def texture packs on Minecraft ?
#2093 [17:39] <MusiiiicDuDe> Yes i have but i have re-installed without them
#2094 [17:39] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Ok, so you deleted all folders except the saves folder?
#2095 [17:39] <MusiiiicDuDe> yes
#2096 [17:40] <MusiiiicDuDe> and i tried running it without putting back the saves folder
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#2098 [17:40] <zpoop> can someone tell me how to set up a server
#2099 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> zpoop - You were already told
#2100 [17:41] <zpoop> no that was poopz my evil brother
#2101 [17:41] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Let's uninstall Java and reinstall the latest. Follow this: http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp and then http://www.java.com/en/download/
#2102 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> !k zpoop
#2103 [17:41] * GreyBot kicked zpoop from #minecrafthelp (Reason: poop :<Kicks:901>)
#2104 [17:41] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok
#2105 [17:42] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Make sure to choose the 64 bit Java 6 version.
#2106 [17:43] <MusiiiicDuDe> yes
#2107 [17:44] <MusiiiicDuDe> it seemed i had 2 java programs in my program list. i had Java (TM) 6 Update 29 and Update 30
#2108 [17:45] <MusiiiicDuDe> if i remove java it will close this site so i will re-login when i download it agian
#2109 [17:45] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: oh, but 1.6.0_26 was in the error log. Strange
#2110 [17:45] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: try remove all but the Update 30
#2111 [17:45] <MusiiiicDuDe> i have already remove them all unfortunaly
#2112 [17:45] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Oh yes, bookmark this: irc://irc.esper.net/MineCraftHelp
#2113 [17:46] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: No problem withremoving all, but now you need to get the 64 bit Java 6, I would get the offline version.
#2114 [17:46] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok
#2115 [17:48] * AureliusM is away fot 75 seconds
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#2116 [17:50] <MusiiiicDuDe> Ok I am back
#2117 [17:50] * AureliusM just got back now
#2117 [17:51] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok me too
#2118 [17:51] <MusiiiicDuDe> ima try starting minecraft now
#2119 [17:52] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Java 6 installed ok? Then retry that run.bat you made earlier
#2120 [17:52] <MusiiiicDuDe> oh okay
#2121 [17:52] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Yes, or just start Minecraft normally, either way.
#2122 [17:52] <MusiiiicDuDe> same crasch
#2123 [17:53] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: exact same error? In the error log it has "C [awt.dll+0xb70d0] D3DVertexCacher::Render+0x50" ?
#2124 [17:53] <MusiiiicDuDe> ima check
#2125 [17:53] <MusiiiicDuDe> cant find any new error log
#2126 [17:54] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: did you run the run.bat ?
#2127 [17:54] <MusiiiicDuDe> and the one i sent you didnt seem to be the right one either! Cuz its date was back when it still worked
#2128 [17:54] <MusiiiicDuDe> yes
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#2130 [17:55] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Yes, I just noticed that error log's not the right one.
#2131 [17:55] <lildrummerdrew> Heya. So I just heard the database will be updated Friday January 13th 2012 AD about 08:00 - 12:00 (UTC), and login will be affected?
#2132 [17:55] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok
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#2134 [17:55] <lildrummerdrew> What's that, mean persay?
#2135 [17:55] <lildrummerdrew> Specifically?
#2136 [17:57] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: have yoy retried the run.bat to get an error message in the black command window?
#2137 [17:57] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: please copy the error text from the command window and paste it into a pastebin
#2138 [17:57] <MusiiiicDuDe> yes but it failes to find the main class or something, and the window shuts down directly
#2139 [17:58] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: run.bat must have a last line with this one word: pause
#2140 [17:58] <MusiiiicDuDe> yes
#2141 [17:58] <MusiiiicDuDe> i can read the last line
#2142 [17:58] <MusiiiicDuDe> a little
#2143 [17:58] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: the window should not close then
#2144 [17:58] <WorthierSpinman> well, i need help with running minecraft. ever time i open it up it says ''driver components mismatch. Exit is only option.''
#2145 [17:58] <MusiiiicDuDe> it closes automaticaly
#2146 [17:59] <MusiiiicDuDe> i can barely read it
#2147 [17:59] <MusiiiicDuDe> it says couldnt find the main class :net.minecraft.launcherframe
#2148 [18:00] <MusiiiicDuDe> Program will not exist
#2149 [18:01] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Can you open the run.bat file in Notepad? Right mouse click over run.bat and select Edit
#2150 [18:01] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok
#2151 [18:01] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Then make the contents look like this: http://pastebin.com/EuU0tLLJ
#2152 [18:01] <MusiiiicDuDe> yes
#2153 [18:02] <MusiiiicDuDe> thats how it looks like
#2154 [18:02] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: With the APPDATA line at top ?
#2155 [18:02] <MusiiiicDuDe> oh okay
#2156 [18:02] <MusiiiicDuDe> now it paused
#2157 [18:03] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: And save it, and check it is in the same folder as the minecraft.jar you downloaded several minutes ago
#2158 [18:03] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Oh, ok, what is in the black window now?
#2159 [18:03] <MusiiiicDuDe> alot
#2160 [18:04] <MusiiiicDuDe> i will give u a pastebin link
#2161 [18:04] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: You know how to copy from the cmd window?
#2162 [18:04] <WorthierSpinman> well, i need help with running minecraft. ever time i open it up it says ''driver components mismatch. Exit is only option.''
#2163 [18:04] <MusiiiicDuDe> yes
#2164 [18:04] <MusiiiicDuDe> http://pastebin.com/VE3JdgrU
#2165 [18:04] * AureliusM away for 45 seconds for coffee
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#2166 [18:05] <mib_vaps46> are the online servers working?
#2167 [18:05] <mib_vaps46> im having issues with port forwarding, but i need to know that the online servers are still working despite the maintenance notices
#2168 [18:06] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Ok, now the error is: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame
#2169 [18:06] <MusiiiicDuDe> yes
#2170 [18:07] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Where did you download the minecraft.jar to ? It looks like this is in the bin folder.
#2171 [18:07] <MusiiiicDuDe> it is
#2172 [18:07] <MusiiiicDuDe> Isnt it supposed to bee?
#2173 [18:08] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: not really, no. not at all.
#2174 [18:08] <MusiiiicDuDe> oh
#2175 [18:08] <MusiiiicDuDe> but it has always been there for me
#2176 [18:08] <MusiiiicDuDe> and worked
#2177 [18:09] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: I'm making some better instructions. The minecraft.jar from the minecraft.net/download should not be placed in the bin.
#2178 [18:10] <WorthierSpinman> well, i need help with running minecraft. ever time i open it up it says ''driver components mismatch. Exit is only option.''
#2179 [18:10] <MusiiiicDuDe> when it installed, it placed it there
#2180 [18:10] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: When you copied it there today did Windows warn you were oveerwriting a file?
#2181 [18:10] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Wait for better instructions. A minute.
#2182 [18:10] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok yes it did
#2183 [18:10] <MusiiiicDuDe> i think
#2184 [18:11] <MusiiiicDuDe> but i never downloaded a .jar only .exe launcher
#2185 [18:11] <MusiiiicDuDe> today
#2186 [18:11] <MusiiiicDuDe> and the launcher isnt in the bin folder
#2187 [18:12] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Follow these instructions carefully: http://pastebin.com/z6W2GTKz
#2188 [18:12] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok
#2189 [18:14] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Ok, there should now be a folder named testfull on your Desktop. In that folder should be one minecraft.jar file, and one run.bat file.
#2190 [18:15] <MusiiiicDuDe> yes
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#2192 [18:15] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Inside the run.bat file should be 3 lines. Tell me what the first line is.
#2193 [18:15] <WorthierSpinman> well, i need help with running minecraft. ever time i open it up it says ''driver components mismatch. Exit is only option.''
#2194 [18:15] <MusiiiicDuDe> set APPDATA=%cd%
#2195 [18:15] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: And the second should be begin: java
#2196 [18:15] <MusiiiicDuDe> yes
#2197 [18:16] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Ok, that seems good. Now double click that run.bat file.
#2198 [18:16] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok
#2199 [18:16] <MusiiiicDuDe> it opend up minecraft launcher
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#2201 [18:16] <AureliusM> WorthierSpinman: I read your error report, but I'm thinking what step to take
#2202 [18:17] <WorthierSpinman> thanks
#2203 [18:17] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Ok, now login as normal
#2204 [18:17] <MusiiiicDuDe> i cant log in. think it is cuz of the database update
#2205 [18:18] <AureliusM> WorthierSpinman: is there more error message than just that line?
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#2207 [18:19] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Hmmm, yes I cannot login either-
#2208 [18:19] <MusiiiicDuDe> damn
#2209 [18:20] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: But I can login with my 1.0.0 client, wait I'll test some more
#2210 [18:20] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok
#2211 [18:20] <WorthierSpinman> no but the window name says ''nVidia OpenGL Driver'' and when i go to the minecraft browser or use the outdated version all that happens is a little x at the top of the box
#2212 [18:21] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Ok, it must have been a temporary problem, both 1.0.0 and 1.1 login now. So retry that run.bat please
#2213 [18:21] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok
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#2215 [18:22] <MusiiiicDuDe> Too many failed logins
#2216 [18:22] <MusiiiicDuDe> damn
#2217 [18:22] <AureliusM> WorthierSpinman: Are you running minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/download ?
#2218 [18:23] <WorthierSpinman> yes
#2219 [18:24] <AureliusM> WorthierSpinman: is there a hs_err_pid file on the PC? Java usually writes an error log in that file.
#2220 [18:25] <WorthierSpinman> i dont know. can u tell me where to find it if there is one?
#2221 [18:26] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Try this, in th etestfull folder, open the .minecraft folder and then find the lastlogin file and delete itt
#2222 [18:26] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok
#2223 [18:26] <AureliusM> WorthierSpinman: Windows?
#2224 [18:26] <MusiiiicDuDe> the .minecraft folder is empty!
#2225 [18:26] <WorthierSpinman> windows 7
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#2227 [18:27] <AureliusM> WorthierSpinman: If Windows search cannot find any files whose name starts with hs_err_pid, we need to use this batch method: http://pastebin.com/z6W2GTKz
#2228 [18:28] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Then something is strange with the java setup. But try this: click Start and type %APPDATA%/.minecraft and look inside that folder
#2229 [18:29] <MusiiiicDuDe> remove the last login file?
#2230 [18:29] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Yes, but also list the files you see there for me,
#2231 [18:30] <MusiiiicDuDe> all the files in .minecraft?
#2232 [18:30] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: There should be a bin folder, options.txt, resources, saves screenshots, servers.dat, stats amd texturepacks,
#2233 [18:31] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Did you say you used no mods, or that you had mods and uninstalled them?
#2234 [18:31] <MusiiiicDuDe> all those files exist exept texturepacks
#2235 [18:32] <MusiiiicDuDe> and screenshots and servers.dat
#2236 [18:32] <MusiiiicDuDe> i re- downloaded minecraft
#2237 [18:32] <MusiiiicDuDe> and THEN i used NO mods
#2238 [18:34] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Ok, if you deleted the lastlogin, then retry the run.bat file
#2239 [18:34] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok
#2240 [18:35] <WorthierSpinman> didnt work
#2241 [18:38] <AureliusM> WorthierSpinman: what error is in the black command window? Please paste it at pastebin.com, instructions follow
#2242 [18:38] <AureliusM> oh
#2243 [18:39] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: if any errors appear in the black command window, please paste them to pastebin as usual
#2244 [18:39] <MusiiiicDuDe> ok
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#2246 [18:42] <calatalee> I bought the game 4 days ago and it wont let me log in to the minecraft launcher it says im not premium
#2247 [18:43] <AureliusM> calatalee: has the money been taken from your account? In some cases the transaction failed even though the website said it was successful.
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#2253 [19:02] <nomsayin> Hi, for a few months now every minecraft version I use freezes after a few seconds. CPU usage maxes out at 25 (on a quad core) and memory shoots up to 1 gb. Anyone know a solution?
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#2255 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> nomsayin: when MC is running, press F3. There will be a pie graph in the lower right that will tell you where the bottleneck is.
#2256 [19:07] <nomsayin> the majority of the pie graph is render
#2257 [19:07] <nomsayin> 97%
#2258 [19:13] <nomsayin> brb going to reboot
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#2260 [19:15] <nomsayin_> So, someone told me to install 64 bit java and that would fix it, but now minecraft cant load update news and I can't log in.
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#2262 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> nomsayin - Problem is that you installed java 7. Uninstall it, use Java 6, 64 bit
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#2264 [19:16] <wannabemac> Anyone know what time logins will be down in EST
#2265 [19:16] <willy2> Just bought minecraft and cant seem to download. Keep getting message that user is not premium, what should I try?
#2266 [19:16] <wannabemac> wait
#2267 [19:16] <wannabemac> Are you sure the payment went through?
#2268 [19:17] <willy2> yes - got a confirmation email
#2269 [19:17] <wannabemac> It should work within 24 hours
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#2271 [19:18] <AureliusM> wannabemac: that red banner is old news now, it is January 14 UTC now
#2272 [19:18] <keret> Hi
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#2274 [19:19] <MusiiiicDuDe> Hi Im back! =)
#2275 [19:19] <keret> Hello?
#2276 [19:19] <keret> :|
#2277 [19:19] <MusiiiicDuDe> hey
#2278 [19:20] <MusiiiicDuDe> AureliusM??
#2279 [19:21] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Hi, did the login work?
#2280 [19:21] <MusiiiicDuDe> no
#2281 [19:21] <MusiiiicDuDe> but minecraft works now!
#2282 [19:21] <MusiiiicDuDe> I fixed it myself :)
#2283 [19:21] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: offline? How?
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#2285 [19:23] <MusiiiicDuDe> It didnt work when i updated them but re installed worked! =)
#2286 [19:23] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Oh, even though the driver was the correct one? Just reinstalling did the trickl ?
#2287 [19:23] <MusiiiicDuDe> yea
#2288 [19:24] <MusiiiicDuDe> Im guessing it needed a full Re install on the drivers,
#2289 [19:24] <MusiiiicDuDe> Not just updating it
#2290 [19:24] <MusiiiicDuDe> :P
#2291 [19:24] <nomsayin_> ty for your help, i got it to work i think
#2292 [19:24] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Well, we usually do try a driver install, but not if they already look ok. Installing drivers is not the most pleasant of jobs.
#2293 [19:25] <MusiiiicDuDe> haha no i agree
#2294 [19:25] <MusiiiicDuDe> But my pc did it automatticaly soo :P
#2295 [19:26] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Is this the PC with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4330 ? Driver File Version: 8.14.0010.0678 ?
#2296 [19:26] <MusiiiicDuDe> yes
#2297 [19:27] <AureliusM> nomsayin: GreyVulpine helped you by saying uninstall Java 7 and use 6 I think.
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#2301 [19:28] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: I will add that to checklist: even if drivers are good, reinstall them anyway. It is odd that this happens though.
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#2303 [19:28] <MusiiiicDuDe> Yea i agree
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#2305 [19:29] <MusiiiicDuDe> btw i just came back to tell you that in case this happens again :)
#2306 [19:29] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: I was beginning to think your case was like the Toshiba C660
#2307 [19:29] <samcraftx> my computer crashed and i lost everything now i cant download minecraft
#2308 [19:29] <MusiiiicDuDe> AureliusM ok what happend to that?
#2309 [19:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> my computer crashed != i lost everything
#2310 [19:29] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Several C660 owners were getting bad drivers, with eror in ATI driver, but no ATI card in the laptop !
#2311 [19:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> unless you crashed because you just deleted all of your registry or something
#2312 [19:30] <MusiiiicDuDe> AureliusM Thats wierd
#2313 [19:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> in whch case you owuldnt be here
#2314 [19:31] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: It was Toshiba that misconfigured the drivers.
#2315 [19:31] <MusiiiicDuDe> AureliusM ah okay
#2316 [19:31] <MusiiiicDuDe> AureliusM Well ima go now
#2317 [19:31] <MusiiiicDuDe> AureliusM byee and thanks for all your help! :D
#2318 [19:31] <AureliusM> MusiiiicDuDe: Well, thanks for coming back and reporting, otherwise we thought a disaster had happened.
#2319 [19:31] <MusiiiicDuDe> No problem! =)
#2320 [19:31] * AureliusM waves bye bye
#2320 [19:32] <MusiiiicDuDe> lol xD
#2321 [19:34] <samcraftx> my computer was reset and now it will not download minecraft again the page starts to load then it stops and goes to a white page
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#2332 [20:16] <Damein> hey can i get help with servers here
#2333 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> Not if you rely on our telepathy.
#2334 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> Please state the nature of the Minecraft emergency.
#2335 [20:17] <Damein> i need to portfoward logmein is being bi curious
#2336 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> firstly:
#2337 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> ?? fubar/hamachi
#2338 [20:18] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#2339 [20:18] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#2340 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> secondly, I fail to see what any potential sexual preference has on inanimate hardware or software's performance.
#2341 [20:18] <Damein> yea i wanna portforward
#2342 [20:18] <Damein> it is coming out of the closet
#2343 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> I fail to see what any potential sexual preference has on inanimate hardware or software's performance.
#2344 [20:20] <Damein> now your coming out of the closet -_-
#2345 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> I fail to see how that might be relevant to your inability to configure your network.
#2346 [20:21] <Damein> how do i port forward
#2347 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> That depends on what you're using for a router.
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#2349 [20:23] <Greywisaper> anyone on?
#2350 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> In abstract, you instruct your router to forward incoming TCP socket requests on a specific port, to a specified internal IP address.
#2351 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> Greywisaper: Often.
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#2353 [20:23] <Greywisaper> does anyone know of a way to fix the 1.1 loading crash yet?
#2354 [20:23] <Scott> Coming out of the closet?
#2355 [20:23] <Damein> http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx5g9n9tHC1r9ujdio1_500.jpg here is what is on my brain after what you said dope
#2356 [20:24] <Scott> How risqué!
#2357 [20:24] * DopeGhoti gives Scott a gold star for proper use of é.
#2357 [20:24] * Damein kicks dopeghoti
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#2358 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> Woohoo, four minutes to the weekend.
#2359 [20:26] * GreyVulpine shows Damein to www.portforward.com
#2359 [20:26] <Scott> I am learning French. Accents aren't that hard.
#2360 [20:26] <Scott> and OS X makes them super easy.
#2361 [20:27] <Damein> ok thank you that is all i needed dope
#2362 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> Ah, bien. ça va?
#2363 [20:27] <Damein> ca va bien
#2364 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> Jay n'parlez-pas francais.
#2365 [20:28] <Damein> je suis parle en francais en petite
#2366 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Pourquoi? C'est excellant.
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#2368 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> Greywisaper: too many silent letters make DopeGhoti something something
#2369 [20:28] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2369 [20:29] * DopeGhoti huggles Deutschsprache
#2369 [20:29] <Damein> grey je suis d'accord
#2370 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> I took a couple semesters of french way back in high school... I don't remember much
#2371 [20:30] <Damein> that means i agree im in high school taking french :)
#2372 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> I learned enough French to make any actual francophones wince and ask me to please just use English.
#2373 [20:30] * GreyVulpine hehs
#2373 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> This, by the way, is the key to getting by in Quebec.
#2374 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> (and France, for that matter)
#2375 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Bien sur.
#2376 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> You see; you get points for trying, but they want the pain to stop. If you just start blabbing in English, many will just pretend not to understand.
#2377 [20:31] <Greywisaper> so does anyone know if the 1.1 loading bug is fixable?
#2378 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> Greywisaper: which bug is this?
#2379 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Greywisaper - Could you elaborate?
#2380 [20:32] <Greywisaper> the one where you update to 1.1 and the game always crashes after the majong screen
#2381 [20:32] <Greywisaper> ps. no a in my name
#2382 [20:33] <Greywisaper> ops there is... my bad
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#2384 [20:35] <Greywisaper> i have to rollback to 1.0 to b able to play whichis no problem exacpt that servers are now going to 1.1 so i can't play multiplayer
#2385 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Greywisaper - Have you tried a force update in your launcher?
#2386 [20:38] <Greywisaper> yes, i did all the usual, removed all mos, of chich i only had one texture pack, checked my java was updated, im running latest and reinstalled it just to be sure, removed latest jar and reinstalled twice and still crashes
#2387 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> Got any error reports?
#2388 [20:39] <Greywisaper> im reinstalling again and will post it, do you have a special channel to post it in?
#2389 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> pastebin.com it?
#2390 [20:40] <Greywisaper> oh well thats a bitch...... after fourth rininstall it now works....
#2391 [20:41] <Greywisaper> maybe it was the java
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#2393 [20:41] <khaleel> hey
#2394 [20:41] <khaleel> can someone help me
#2395 [20:41] <WugBot> khaleel: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#2396 [20:42] <Greywisaper> if someone else has this problem get them to reinstalll both minraft and java.... maybe that will help them
#2397 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> It's part of our standard procedure.. thanks
#2398 [20:42] <khaleel> my chat on minecraft server has gone white
#2399 [20:42] <khaleel> rey i did that and still does not work
#2400 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> Using any texture packs? Any mods?
#2401 [20:43] <khaleel> so you wish to see an image to see the diffrence
#2402 [20:43] <oblMraptor> Hi ! Need a little help with redstone : is this normal that when you set a torch in "off-state" it still be off when the circuitry is off too ?
#2403 [20:43] <khaleel> not mods
#2404 [20:43] <khaleel> not mods
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#2406 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> oblMraptor - Screenshot?
#2407 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> khaleel - Sure, a picture would be nice
#2408 [20:44] <khaleel> ok let me get the url
#2409 [20:44] <oblMraptor> ye i'll make it
#2410 [20:45] <khaleel> http://i40.tinypic.com/1j5op.jpg
#2411 [20:45] <oblMraptor> http://i.imgur.com/g182k.png
#2412 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> oblMraptor - That's not a correct state, try replacing the torch
#2413 [20:47] <oblMraptor> i already did that
#2414 [20:48] <oblMraptor> i put off the torch and replacing it
#2415 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> There's a slight bug from 1.0 that redstone doesn't update correctly on changes
#2416 [20:48] <oblMraptor> same thing
#2417 [20:48] <oblMraptor> Also i tried to make a piston door
#2418 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> oblMraptor - Also a bug from /time, if you've used that command in MP
#2419 [20:48] <oblMraptor> same problem
#2420 [20:48] <oblMraptor> ah
#2421 [20:48] <oblMraptor> ok
#2422 [20:48] <oblMraptor> Need to sleep to correct ?
#2423 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> Can't remember if beds fixes it, or makes it worse
#2424 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Just need to go through a day/night cycle without doing /time
#2425 [20:49] <oblMraptor> ok
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#2427 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> khaleel - Hmm. modded server. You may need to hit up #bukkit
#2428 [20:50] <khaleel> ok
#2429 [20:50] <oblMraptor> I'll wait some mins to let the cycle be
#2430 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Some plugins may not have updated correctly, or bukkit hasn't hooked it correctly yet
#2431 [20:50] <oblMraptor> because bed hasn't fixed it
#2432 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> oblMraptor - I've seen /time break many of my redstone stuff. Just need to wait
#2433 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> oblMraptor - I've seen /time break many of my redstone stuff. Just need to wait
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#2435 [20:50] <oblMraptor> ok
#2436 [20:50] <oblMraptor> Well it's a server
#2437 [20:51] <oblMraptor> And i suppose it still do the cycle even if am not there ?
#2438 [20:51] <oblMraptor> though, i was used to make some "rapid pulsar" with the torch blink
#2439 [20:52] <oblMraptor> it also has problems
#2440 [20:52] <oblMraptor> maybe the blink has been fixed ?
#2441 [20:53] <oblMraptor> thx for your help though :)
#2442 [20:56] <oblMraptor> http://i.imgur.com/CFezf.png > another screen
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#2444 [21:02] <khaleel> hey
#2445 [21:03] <oblMraptor> hi back :)
#2446 [21:03] <khaleel> it turn out this problem is cleint side
#2447 [21:03] <khaleel> whould you know any fixes?
#2448 [21:03] <khaleel> http://i40.tinypic.com/1j5op.jpg
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#2450 [21:05] <mib_x0x3oa> what video settings do i set to prevent lag
#2451 [21:05] <mib_x0x3oa> ?
#2452 [21:06] <khaleel> can anyone help?
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#2454 [21:06] <mib_x0x3oa> hello?
#2455 [21:10] <mib_x0x3oa> how do i stop lag?
#2456 [21:13] <oblMraptor> To stop lag
#2457 [21:13] <mib_x0x3oa> how do i stop lag?????/
#2458 [21:13] <oblMraptor> You can set your graph
#2459 [21:13] <oblMraptor> vid settings
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#2461 [21:13] <oblMraptor> Graphics fast
#2462 [21:14] <oblMraptor> smooth lighning off
#2463 [21:14] <oblMraptor> Performance "power saver"
#2464 [21:14] <oblMraptor> render distance
#2465 [21:14] <oblMraptor> tiny
#2466 [21:14] <oblMraptor> And that's it
#2467 [21:14] <mib_x0x3oa> ok thanks
#2468 [21:14] <oblMraptor> np^
#2469 [21:15] <mib_x0x3oa> mucho gracias
#2470 [21:16] <oblMraptor> YEAH
#2471 [21:16] <oblMraptor> FIXED MY PROB
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#2473 [21:16] <BradleyWuzHere> Hello
#2474 [21:16] <oblMraptor> Hello
#2475 [21:17] <BradleyWuzHere> I need help with the game
#2476 [21:17] <oblMraptor> Yeah ?
#2477 [21:18] <BradleyWuzHere> D downloaded it about 3 hours ago, and I am trying to open it for the first time, but the update option gets frozen at lwjgl 11% when updating
#2478 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> Turn off your Antivirus, then try again
#2479 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> AVG, among others,have been known to do this
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#2481 [21:19] <oblMraptor> Hey Grey, my torch is now normal :)
#2482 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> Just waited?
#2483 [21:19] <BradleyWuzHere> thats what i use
#2484 [21:19] <oblMraptor> yeap
#2485 [21:19] * GreyVulpine nods
#2485 [21:19] <oblMraptor> but another problem is up
#2486 [21:19] <oblMraptor> xD
#2487 [21:20] <oblMraptor> http://i.imgur.com/CFezf.png > another screen
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#2489 [21:20] <mib_x0x3oa> fghxf
#2490 [21:20] <oblMraptor> this is with the blink of redstone torches
#2491 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea if rapid pulsars work right now
#2492 [21:20] <oblMraptor> yeah
#2493 [21:20] <BradleyWuzHere> i disabled it, what do i do now
#2494 [21:20] <oblMraptor> i wonder how i'll make my cobble gen fast nah.
#2495 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> BradleyWuzHere - Run minecraft
#2496 [21:21] <xorcon> i can't purchase minecraft for any of my accounts
#2497 [21:21] <oblMraptor> Now run and update ?
#2498 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> xorcon - And why can't you?
#2499 [21:21] <xorcon> idk
#2500 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> xorcon - Then we don't know how to help you in that regard. Try taking to your bank or financial institution
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#2502 [21:22] <xorcon> yeah i treid that and used a windows and mac to try and fix it
#2503 [21:22] <xorcon> it keeps saying couldn't withdraw funds
#2504 [21:22] <sam502> Hey guys, any ideas on getting people to come to my server?
#2505 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> sam502 - Advertise your server on one of these, or all of these, websites:
#2506 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> ??> sam502 smp/servers
#2507 [21:23] <VoxelHead> sam502: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2508 [21:23] <VoxelHead> sam502: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2509 [21:23] <BradleyWuzHere> now its stuck at retrieving lwjgl.jar 12% then it says something about a kbps speed
#2510 [21:23] <sam502> Okay thanks
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#2512 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> BradleyWuzHere - Do a force update in the launcher's options menu, turn off AVG, then run minecraft
#2513 [21:23] <sockmister> Hi
#2514 [21:23] <sockmister> i need help with minecraft
#2515 [21:23] <oblMraptor> Yeah sock ?
#2516 [21:24] <mib_x0x3oa> how do i find the xyz cordinates
#2517 [21:24] <mib_x0x3oa> ?
#2518 [21:24] <sockmister> well when i run it on my hp it doesn't run it
#2519 [21:24] <oblMraptor> Type F3
#2520 [21:24] <oblMraptor> Eh
#2521 [21:24] <oblMraptor> Does it shows an error message ?
#2522 [21:24] <sockmister> nope
#2523 [21:24] <oblMraptor> You run it and nothing happens ?
#2524 [21:24] <sockmister> yea
#2525 [21:24] <mib_x0x3oa> ???
#2526 [21:24] <BradleyWuzHere> after i forced update, it stopped at 7%
#2527 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_x0x3oa - Press F3
#2528 [21:24] <oblMraptor> mib_x0x3oa > Type F3
#2529 [21:25] <mib_x0x3oa> ok thanks
#2530 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> mib_x0x3oa - Your XYZ coordinates will be in the upper left
#2531 [21:25] <mib_x0x3oa> ok
#2532 [21:25] <mib_x0x3oa> thak
#2533 [21:25] <oblMraptor> sockmister > Has the game already worked ?
#2534 [21:25] <mib_x0x3oa> s
#2535 [21:25] <sockmister> no
#2536 [21:25] <sockmister> and i bought full version
#2537 [21:25] <oblMraptor> You try to launch it for the first time ?
#2538 [21:25] <oblMraptor> Maybe update Java ?
#2539 [21:25] <sockmister> i did
#2540 [21:25] <sockmister> wait what version of java?
#2541 [21:26] <oblMraptor> let's see, wait
#2542 [21:26] <oblMraptor> Version 6 Update 30
#2543 [21:26] <sockmister> i have it
#2544 [21:26] <oblMraptor> ok
#2545 [21:26] <sockmister> i have past that
#2546 [21:26] <oblMraptor> k
#2547 [21:27] <oblMraptor> Did you download the game from the official website ?
#2548 [21:27] <sockmister> yes
#2549 [21:27] <oblMraptor> Mmh, dunno, try to download it again, see if it's not blocked by any program
#2550 [21:27] <oblMraptor> firewall or stuff like that
#2551 [21:27] <sockmister> i tried that
#2552 [21:28] <oblMraptor> reboot your laptop ?
#2553 [21:28] <oblMraptor> i rly don't see ._.
#2554 [21:28] <sockmister> tried that
#2555 [21:28] <sockmister> can i get a refun?
#2556 [21:28] <BradleyWuzHere> every time i reopen minecraft and force an update, the lwjgl percent thing stops at a random number below 12
#2557 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> BradleyWuzHere - Make sure AVG is completely disabled
#2558 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> BradleyWuzHere - AVG's a crap AV that's been known to do this
#2559 [21:29] <oblMraptor> sockmister > Eh, dunno,
#2560 [21:29] <sockmister> is there a way to get a refun?
#2561 [21:29] <oblMraptor> i dunno sry
#2562 [21:29] <sockmister> o_o
#2563 [21:29] <sockmister> Wtf
#2564 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> Refund policy can be found at www.minecraft.net/support -- under payment -> refund
#2565 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> But try uninstalling and reinstalling java again
#2566 [21:29] <oblMraptor> thx GreyVulpine
#2567 [21:30] <oblMraptor> (Well for my torch i changed the spot where it was, i made a longer redstone circuit but it works now \o/)
#2568 [21:31] <sockmister> www.minecraft.net/supportwww.minecraft.net/support
#2569 [21:31] <BradleyWuzHere> yes, it works! so, do i have to do this every time i wanna play?
#2570 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> oblMraptor - Sure thing
#2571 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> BradleyWuzHere - Only when you want to update minecraft
#2572 [21:31] <BradleyWuzHere> how often is that?
#2573 [21:31] <sockmister> OH GOD YEA YEA YEA! YEA YEA YEA
#2574 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> BradleyWuzHere - I don't know Mojang's update schedule.
#2575 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> BradleyWuzHere - 1.0.0 was released last november. It's now january for 1.1
#2576 [21:32] <BradleyWuzHere> okay, thanks. any tips to survive the first night/
#2577 [21:32] <oblMraptor> They don't make updates very often
#2578 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> !tutorial
#2579 [21:33] <BradleyWuzHere> yeah, i am a beginner, about to play for the first time..
#2580 [21:33] <oblMraptor> Eh, the beginning is so far for me, i don't even remember it.
#2581 [21:33] <oblMraptor> now am doing hard stuff with redstone. :(
#2582 [21:36] <BradleyWuzHere> well, thank you guys, i am off to play minecraft for the first time ever....... :D
#2583 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> G'luck!
#2584 [21:36] <sam502> First time?
#2585 [21:36] <sam502> ...
#2586 [21:36] <sam502> o.e
#2587 [21:36] <BradleyWuzHere> yes, first time
#2588 [21:36] <sam502> What version are you using
#2589 [21:37] <sam502> aka it says like Minecraft 1.1
#2590 [21:37] <sam502> Minecraft 1.0.0
#2591 [21:37] <BradleyWuzHere> how do i leave this irc/
#2592 [21:37] <sam502> Exit
#2593 [21:37] <sam502> >.>
#2594 [21:37] <BradleyWuzHere> ohhh. *facepalm* bye
#2595 [21:38] <sam502> I wish their was more minecraft newbies
#2596 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> We get them every day
#2597 [21:38] <sam502> o;?
#2598 [21:38] <sam502> I mean like new new
#2599 [21:38] <sam502> like him
#2600 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Again. Every day.
#2601 [21:38] <sam502> Wow...
#2602 [21:38] <sockmister> hundred to a code damit?
#2603 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> I haven't had to help with a complex redstone creation in months.
#2604 [21:38] <sockmister> lol
#2605 [21:39] <sam502> Do you have any ideas when the new bukkit realease with come out
#2606 [21:39] <sam502> *release
#2607 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> sam502 - That's a question for #bukkit
#2608 [21:39] <sockmister> kPOKdopskpos
#2609 [21:39] <sam502> I saw that coming
#2610 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> (no really, don't ask, they'll kill ya)
#2611 [21:39] <sam502> >.>
#2612 [21:39] <sockmister> I SHIT MY ASS
#2613 [21:39] <sockmister> www.minecraft.net/support
#2614 [21:39] <Kealper> dowhat
#2615 [21:39] <sockmister> loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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#2617 [21:40] <sam502> dyndns?
#2618 [21:40] <Kealper> sockmister: stop spamming random crap before i have some fun
#2619 [21:40] <sam502> Sounds fancy enough to me
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#2621 [21:44] <Logan> I put all my card info. in and it said transaction failed but then I clicked ok and it said Payment Completed but it says that I am not premeium and can not play the game what is goin on?
#2622 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> 2nd page always displays a successful message. Trust the first page
#2623 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Also, try paypal. Usually more reliable, we've seen
#2624 [21:47] <Logan> How can I trust You if you do not work with Mojang
#2625 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> We're linked from Mojang's support page at www.minecraft.net/support. If you don't trust us, then why did you come here for support in the first place?
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#2628 [21:48] <oblMraptor> Do someone know how to do a 1-tick clock ?
#2629 [21:48] <oblMraptor> I watched some on Minecraft Wiki but i can't make them oO
#2630 [21:49] <oblMraptor> Or i read wrong or this is complicated
#2631 [21:49] <Logan> Sorry, do you think I should but my info. on my card again or should i wait till tomorrow and see if it works?
#2632 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> Logan - If you got a failed transaction the first time, the payment never got through
#2633 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Logan - You can call your card to double check, but it's been our experience to trust the first page
#2634 [21:50] <Logan> Ok thank you but do you think I should try again?
#2635 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Yes, but try paypal instead of moneybookers. We've seen more people report success with paypal instead
#2636 [21:51] <Pasqualy> hey, i'm trying to run minecraft 1.0 (downgraded from 1.1 using MCNostalgia) but it keeps giving me an error that reads "Could not find the main class:net.minecraft.LauncherFrame. Program will exit" then minecraft doesn't open. anyone know how to fix this? thanks
#2637 [21:51] <Logan> Ok umm so if it says that transaction failed should I wait a day or 2 do you the game will come through?
#2638 [21:51] <Pasqualy> i'm using 32bit win 7 btw
#2639 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> The game will not come through with a transaction failed message
#2640 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Pasqualy - As we do not support MCNostalgia, we cannot vouch for anything it does, or provide any help in using it
#2641 [21:52] <Pasqualy> ok thanks, trying to open MC a million times worked
#2642 [21:54] <oblMraptor> Yeah ! I've found alone :)
#2643 [21:54] <Logan> Ok thank you for al the help.
#2644 [21:57] <Logan> Wait if i already have it downloaded should i just by minecraft or download it again while paying for it at the same time?
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#2646 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> The launcher does not contain any game files until you log in with a premium account
#2647 [21:58] <Logan> ok
#2648 [22:04] <Jackson413> !login
#2649 [22:06] <Logan> Hey I just tried PayPal and it did not work it will not accept any payment i try why?
#2650 [22:08] <DopeGhoti> Logan: you'd have to ask the folks at PayPal about that.
#2651 [22:09] <Omega_Guardian> my guess is cause it's going to a foreign site, they reject it by default cause they figure is fraud
#2652 [22:09] <Logan> But its not Just PayPal its every other payment i try, i dont undestand.
#2653 [22:12] <Jackson413> hey GreyVulpine?
#2654 [22:13] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti
#2655 [22:13] <Jackson413> you there?
#2656 [22:13] <DopeGhoti> No; I'm here. _you_ are there.
#2657 [22:13] <Jackson413> lololol
#2658 [22:13] <Jackson413> my cousin katie is having problems w/ minecraft
#2659 [22:13] <Logan> Why does minecraft deny every payment option I try?
#2660 [22:14] <Jackson413> ill get her on (shes 23 lol), but can you help her?
#2661 [22:14] <Jackson413> Logan, Mojang currently does not accept payments via carrier pigeon
#2662 [22:15] <Logan> why?
#2663 [22:15] * |Kiikun| facepalms
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#2664 [22:16] <CaelThunderwing> Logan: Load the $$ onto paypal Balance funds THEN try.
#2665 [22:16] <|Kiikun|> costs too much to clean up all the pidgeon poop?
#2666 [22:16] <CaelThunderwing> Not from a linked debit/credit card/Bank account
#2667 [22:16] <|Kiikun|> CaelThunderwing: i dont think they let you pay via paypal balance.... not 100% sue though
#2668 [22:16] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti, ok she is on
#2669 [22:16] <CaelThunderwing> it did for me,
#2670 [22:16] <Jackson413> can you help her?
#2671 [22:17] <CaelThunderwing> !paid CaelThunderwing
#2672 [22:17] <CaelThunderwing> :3
#2673 [22:17] <CaelThunderwing> damn AuBot's down.
#2674 [22:17] <CaelThunderwing> but, it did work and i've been playing since
#2675 [22:18] <Jackson413> Kealper, you there with your mighty RAWR?
#2676 [22:19] * mib_25vwg5 [mib_25vwg5@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2677 [22:19] <Jackson413> xales?
#2678 [22:20] * Kealper rawrs
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#2679 [22:20] <Jackson413> yay
#2680 [22:20] <Kealper> was hooking my ham packet station back up :o
#2681 [22:20] <Jackson413> Kealper, ardorpyro is my cousin katie
#2682 [22:20] <Jackson413> she cannot connect to minecraft.net, would you mind being of assistance?
#2683 [22:21] <Kealper> is the launcher saying "Cannot connect to minecraft.net" or is she literally unable to even get on the website?
#2684 [22:21] <ardorpyro> cant reach server
#2685 [22:21] <Kealper> oh, you're here
#2686 [22:22] <ardorpyro> yea
#2687 [22:22] <Kealper> ok so... you are unable to view http://minecraft.net?
#2688 [22:22] <Jackson413> shit
#2689 [22:22] <Jackson413> misunderstanding
#2690 [22:22] <Jackson413> its a specific server that she can't reach
#2691 [22:22] <Kealper> oh, doop
#2692 [22:22] * Jackson413 plamflace
#2692 [22:22] <Kealper> what's the server?
#2693 [22:23] <Jackson413> mine\
#2694 [22:23] <Jackson413> :D
#2695 [22:23] <Kealper> odd...
#2696 [22:23] <Kealper> what's your server again since i suck like that?
#2697 [22:23] <Jackson413> craftbukkit isnt ready yuet
#2698 [22:23] <Jackson413> still on 1.0
#2699 [22:23] <Kealper> oh, well then
#2700 [22:24] <Jackson413> but its ManlyCraft PvP
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#2702 [22:24] <ardorpyro> but it doesnt work
#2703 [22:24] <ardorpyro> :(
#2704 [22:24] <Kealper> hit the googles for "MCNostolgia" if she wants to downgrade her client to 1.0.1 for a while
#2705 [22:24] <_frozen> allright, do I have a weird client issue I want to bring to you and see if anyone have a workaround
#2706 [22:24] <_frozen> to begin:
#2707 [22:24] * Kealper listens
#2707 [22:24] <_frozen> I have client installed on this main computer
#2708 [22:24] <_frozen> i have two accounts, one for kids, one for myself
#2709 [22:24] <_frozen> I also have my own server hosted somewhere else
#2710 [22:25] <_frozen> now, using my main account, accessing that server-- and that server only -- lags my MC like theres no tomorrow
#2711 [22:25] <_frozen> if i check other servers-- like imdeity and sovereign-- it works fine
#2712 [22:25] <_frozen> I switched over to kids' account and accessed my server
#2713 [22:25] <_frozen> no lag whatsoever
#2714 [22:25] <ardorpyro> I need a new server!
#2715 [22:25] <_frozen> it is only my account, on this client on this computer that is causing problems
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#2717 [22:25] <_frozen> sooo
#2718 [22:25] <_frozen> what is the possible causes, and what can I do
#2719 [22:26] <Kealper> ardorpyro: unfortunately it'll be hard to find a new server for a bit while the mods like Bukkit and stuff update
#2720 [22:26] <Wug> my computer is stable again \o/
#2721 [22:26] <Kealper> _frozen: did you have anything you really really really wanted to keep inside your inventory on your own server?
#2722 [22:26] <Wug> silly dusty dimm slots
#2723 [22:26] <Kealper> Wug: \o/
#2724 [22:26] <_frozen> nah, I can always get them back in creative
#2725 [22:26] <ardorpyro> grrrrrr, but my damn cousins have me addicted to this freakin minecraft shit!
#2726 [22:26] <_frozen> admin of the server so no big
#2727 [22:26] <ardorpyro> what will I do with my life?
#2728 [22:26] <sockmister> Any way to revert or download 1.0 again? I upgraded and now I can't get back on my regular server. Running Fedora 15.
#2729 [22:27] <Kealper> _frozen: on your server, navigate to the world folder, and look for one called "players", inside there, look for your name .dat and delete that file while you are logged out
#2730 [22:27] <ardorpyro> kinda Kealper
#2731 [22:27] <Kealper> _frozen: log back in, it should reset your player and it will most likely start working right again
#2732 [22:27] <_frozen> done, and restarted. same conclusion (that was the ticket answer from beastnode)
#2733 [22:28] * sdgajkfgaskjdfha [sdgajkfgaskjdfha@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2734 [22:28] <Wug> now to restart and install updates because I havent used windows in months
#2735 [22:28] <sockmister> It is not my server. I mean the server I normally log into (maintained by someone else)
#2736 [22:28] <Kealper> sockmister, ardorpyro: google "MCNostalgia" and that will let you both downgrade your game clients to 1.0.1 so you can get back on 1.0 servers again
#2737 [22:28] <Wug> sdgajkfgaskjdfha: thats really the best name you could think of?
#2738 [22:28] <sockmister> I am on 1.1 but the server/bukkit is 1.0
#2739 [22:28] <_frozen> at least its not qwertyuiop wug
#2740 [22:28] <sockmister> MCNostalgia... I shall give it a shot. Thx
#2741 [22:29] <Kealper> sockmister, ardorpyro: once the preferred server updates, you can just re-update your client and it'll work
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#2743 [22:30] <_frozen> any other way to flush player data from within client?
#2744 [22:30] <sockmister> Gotcha, Thank you Kealper
#2745 [22:30] <Kealper> _frozen: unfortunately not, as when it comes to online mode, all player data is stored on the remote server, not your client :/
#2746 [22:31] <_frozen> erm
#2747 [22:31] <_frozen> what other avenues?
#2748 [22:31] <Kealper> _frozen: and it's quite possible that something about your player data file has become corrupt enough to make your client hate it, but not corrupt enough to cause other issues
#2749 [22:32] <Kealper> _frozen: basically the only way would be to delete your .dat file on your server... if you are hosting it from a professional hosting company, they should have some way to access that stuff, and if they do not then you can email them and ask them to remove your .dat file for your account
#2750 [22:32] * mib_b9mre3 [mib_b9mre3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2751 [22:33] <mib_b9mre3> getting a login failed not downloaded thing when i try to play offline help
#2752 [22:34] <Kealper> mib_b9mre3: you have to log in once with a paid account to make it ....
#2753 [22:34] <Kealper> ......
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#2756 [22:35] <Kealper> jdog84532: you have to log in once with a paid account to make it work
#2757 [22:35] <jdog84532> when i downloaded the game i try to login and it says login failed not downloaded and i cant click play offline
#2758 [22:35] <jdog84532> help me
#2759 [22:35] <WugBot> jdog84532: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#2760 [22:35] <Kealper> jdog84532: you have to log in once with a paid account to make it work
#2761 [22:35] <Kealper> that also implies that you've paid for the game
#2762 [22:36] <jdog84532> so how can i play if i dont want to buy the game
#2763 [22:36] <Kealper> buy the game?
#2764 [22:36] <jdog84532> thanks
#2765 [22:36] <Kealper> what on earth would drive you to come in to the official technical support chat asking why you can't play a paid version of a game without buying it first?
#2766 [22:37] <jdog84532> i dont know
#2767 [22:37] <jdog84532> youre rude
#2768 [22:37] <Kealper> i happen
#2769 [22:37] <sockmister> LOL
#2770 [22:37] <ardorpyro> thx guys
#2771 [22:37] <Kealper> also, it's you're
#2772 [22:37] <jdog84532> f you
#2773 [22:37] <sockmister> Get a jjob jdog
#2774 [22:38] <Kealper> ardorpyro: did you get the MCNostalgia thing working?
#2775 [22:38] <sockmister> It is taking me forever to download
#2776 [22:38] <sockmister> 9 minute eta originally
#2777 [22:38] <sockmister> 3 mins left
#2778 [22:38] <Kealper> sockmister: there are more people like jdog than i'd like to admit ._.
#2779 [22:38] <|Kiikun|> Kealper: atleast he didnt claim that everything on the internet was free in his country :P
#2780 [22:39] <Kealper> |Kiikun|: true xD
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#2782 [22:45] <sockmister> Kealper, Looks like MCNostalgia is an EXE and not Linux compatible
#2783 [22:45] <sockmister> I need a .jar
#2784 [22:45] <Kealper> there isn't a linux version? i thought there was...hmm.. lemme do some digging
#2785 [22:45] <DopeGhoti> The Linux version is remembering to cp or tar.
#2786 [22:46] <rawer> linux version is a jar
#2787 [22:46] <rawer> file
#2788 [22:46] <DopeGhoti> Not the Linux version of Minecraft (:
#2789 [22:46] <DopeGhoti> which is to say, that's not to which I was referring
#2790 [22:46] <rawer> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#2791 [22:46] <sockmister> We are talking about MCNostalgia
#2792 [22:47] <Kealper> sockmister: there is a linux version, let me fetch the link
#2793 [22:47] <rawer> ok
#2794 [22:47] <Kealper> wait, hmm
#2795 [22:47] <Kealper> that's huge
#2796 [22:47] <sockmister> Sorry, I didn't even check. The google link I found was just generic and auto downloaded
#2797 [22:47] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: "that's what she said"?
#2798 [22:47] <Kealper> there is no sort of .sh, .py, .pl, etc?
#2799 [22:48] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: giggedy
#2800 [22:48] <Kealper> giggity?
#2801 [22:49] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: time to start browsing with elinks
#2802 [22:49] <sockmister> pyd
#2803 [22:50] <rawer> MCNostalgia 2.0.1 www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#2804 [22:50] <sockmister> ahh there is a py
#2805 [22:51] <rawer> www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#2806 [22:51] <Kealper> rawer: we've established this already lol
#2807 [22:53] <DopeGhoti> But what protocol do I use? Gopher? FTP?
#2808 [22:53] <rawer> k
#2809 [22:53] <rawer> k
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#2811 [22:54] <DopeGhoti> Bye then.
#2812 [22:57] <sockmister> I don't know Python
#2813 [22:58] <Kealper> just run it in a terminal window, it'll run like a normal program
#2814 [22:58] <Kealper> actually you can probably just double click it
#2815 [22:59] <DopeGhoti> if it's properly written with a shebang line, just chmod u+x and run it
#2816 [22:59] <sockmister> It opens the .py file as a text
#2817 [23:00] <sockmister> So... Command Line: chmod u+x MCNostalgia2.0.1.py?
#2818 [23:00] <sockmister> <- newb
#2819 [23:01] <Kealper> sockmister: open a terminal window in the same folder as the .py file
#2820 [23:01] <Kealper> type this: python MCNostalgia2.0.1.py
#2821 [23:01] <sockmister> right
#2822 [23:01] <Kealper> program should start
#2823 [23:02] <sockmister> Got it
#2824 [23:06] <sockmister> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory An error has ocurred while running this program. Please paste the above traceback into a code box in a spoiler box on a new post on the MCNostalgia thread. Preferrably, however, is that you come onto IRC and ask about it and provide a link to the traceback.
#2825 [23:06] <sockmister> That is when selecting to revert to 1.0
#2826 [23:06] <Kealper> O.o
#2827 [23:07] <Kealper> dunno, i've never actually used said program
#2828 [23:07] <|Kiikun|> they probably have a channel.
#2829 [23:08] <|Kiikun|> actually.. its #risucraft.
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#2831 [23:10] <sockmister> nobody on #risucraft :-/
#2832 [23:11] <onix> i forgot my user name and password....i dont remember my old emails password eather but it might be on the one that i do know witch is featherfam@yahoo.com... the other one it could be is hurra300@hotmail.com (the one i dont remember ) can i get it back??? i have a new email hurra20001@gmail.com witch i keep track of...
#2833 [23:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> onix account
#2834 [23:12] <VoxelHead> onix: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#2835 [23:12] <VoxelHead> onix: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#2836 [23:13] <onix> thankks
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#2838 [23:16] <langkid1> what character is this?: 
#2839 [23:16] <langkid1> someone just typed it in game somehow, well, more like they typed something in game and CraftIRC sent it as that
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#2841 [23:17] <langkid1> the entire message was 'Oomg!!!'
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#2843 [23:17] <K3V1N> argh!
#2844 [23:18] <K3V1N> i have a huge problem
#2845 [23:18] <langkid1> sockmister, try http://bit.ly/mcversion for a different way of playing 1.0.1
#2846 [23:18] <langkid1> sockmister, try http://bit.ly/mcversion for a different way of playing 1.0.0*
#2847 [23:18] <langkid1> ?ask
#2848 [23:18] <langkid1> K3V1N, state problem :)
#2849 [23:18] <K3V1N> just bught minecraft
#2850 [23:19] <K3V1N> when i have downloadet it and i run it i cant type my password or my username and if i minimize the window i just get black screen?
#2851 [23:20] <K3V1N> when i open minecraft.exe that is and also it wont run in browser
#2852 [23:20] <langkid1> do you have Java?
#2853 [23:20] <Kealper> not sure about the legality of that launcher you linked, langkid1 :|
#2854 [23:20] <K3V1N> yes
#2855 [23:20] <K3V1N> both versions
#2856 [23:20] <langkid1> Kealper, really? Then sue them!
#2857 [23:20] <langkid1> K3V1N, 6 & 7?
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#2859 [23:20] <Kealper> langkid1: does that launcher contain the .jar files or does it only allow you to select what .jar to launch?
#2860 [23:20] <K3V1N> no
#2861 [23:21] <K3V1N> 64 bit and 32bit
#2862 [23:21] <K3V1N> i think
#2863 [23:21] <langkid1> Kealper, it doesn't EXPLITICALLY contain them, but allows you to download them
#2864 [23:21] <K3V1N> the only file i get is minecraft.exe
#2865 [23:21] <K3V1N> nothing else
#2866 [23:21] <langkid1> yep
#2867 [23:21] <langkid1> that's what you need
#2868 [23:22] <K3V1N> im using windows 7 64bit version
#2869 [23:22] <langkid1> you're on Windows, right?!
#2870 [23:22] <langkid1> good
#2871 [23:22] <langkid1> are your video card drivers up to date?
#2872 [23:22] <Kealper> ehh... i'm still not sure if it's safe to post in here, as it sounds like it could easily be used to pirate the game :|
#2873 [23:22] <K3V1N> yes
#2874 [23:22] <langkid1> GreyVulpine, poke
#2875 [23:23] <K3V1N> i bught this damn game and i really want it to work! and ther is nothing on google on my problem and ther is nothing i can do about it! it is frustrateing!
#2876 [23:24] <langkid1> it's ok we can find a way :)
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#2878 [23:24] <langkid1> Kealper, do we have any scripts to link to for error reporting?
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#2880 [23:25] <K3V1N> i have teamviwer if you would like to see how it behaves
#2881 [23:25] <langkid1> Kealper, help him, I have to go play some Minecraft
#2882 [23:26] <K3V1N> Kealper are you there?
#2883 [23:28] <sockmister> langkid, download Digiex Launcher... when I launch the jar it just starts 1.1
#2884 [23:28] <sockmister> looking into it further
#2885 [23:28] <nj15> Trying to install Minecraft; running Mac OSX Lion. Error says "need to install Java RunTime but you are not connected to the internet". We are connected. Friend in different suburb also running Mac has same problem. What's up?? Offers option to open MineCraaft and install later but comes up with the same problem.
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#2887 [23:30] <K3V1N> why is ther a help channel wher no help is given...
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#2889 [23:31] <|Kiikun|> nj15: try installing java by the application update thing for macs...
#2890 [23:31] <Kealper> i'd assist but i'm currently busy with real-life things atm
#2891 [23:31] <|Kiikun|> ??> K3V1N patience
#2892 [23:31] <VoxelHead> K3V1N: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#2893 [23:31] <VoxelHead> K3V1N: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#2894 [23:32] <K3V1N> sorry
#2895 [23:32] <K3V1N> its just...i have spent like 3 hours now trying to get my damn minecraft to work
#2896 [23:32] <sockmister> Free volunteer online support FTW. Just have patience
#2897 [23:35] <onix> i sent a message to my e-mail to recover my user name about 5 min ago and i haven't gotten it yet....how long will it take?
#2898 [23:35] <sockmister> EPIC WIN. The digiex launcher that langkid linked to works. Took a little figuring out, but it works! Reverted to 1.0 and now I can use it anytime there is an update to still login to the outdated server. Love you guys
#2899 [23:35] <sockmister> rock on
#2900 [23:36] <|Kiikun|> onix: the server shoudl be sending it instantly. any delay/loss of the email is solely the email network's issue... or your spamblocker
#2901 [23:36] <sockmister> Thanks again everyone. See you in the Nether...
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#2903 [23:37] <mib_f5hvgy> hi
#2904 [23:37] <K3V1N> i have downloaded the minecraft.exe, when i save it to my desktop and open it, i cant type in my password or username and if i minimize the mincraft window and maximize it again it just goes black
#2905 [23:37] <mib_f5hvgy> is minecraft not working?
#2906 [23:38] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: i asume youve dont the basics already? Java 6 (64 bit is able, NOT JAVA 7), video drivers properly updated from manufacturer, and minecraft reinstalled/forcupdated?
#2907 [23:38] <K3V1N> Yes all that
#2908 [23:38] <K3V1N> Wait
#2909 [23:38] <mib_f5hvgy> are you talking to me?
#2910 [23:38] <|Kiikun|> ok launcher issue scream java breaking.
#2911 [23:38] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: no was talkign to kevin
#2912 [23:39] <K3V1N> Java 6 (64 bis is able, NOT JAVA 7) <--what do u mean by that?
#2913 [23:39] <mib_f5hvgy> ok
#2914 [23:39] <mib_f5hvgy> I will wait for my turn
#2915 [23:39] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: dont use java 7. it causes oddball issues. use java 6, and if your os is 64bit, use 64bit java.
#2916 [23:40] <K3V1N> how do i downgrade java?
#2917 [23:40] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: and nothing shoudl be wrong with minecraft itself. whats up?
#2918 [23:40] <mib_f5hvgy> I have paid for minecraft and played today
#2919 [23:40] <onix> when i logg onto my hotmail it says on the upper right corner that its my gmail account but mid left side it says hotmail... what am i on?
#2920 [23:40] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: windows? uninstall all versions of java from the programs and features control panel. then reinstall from the link wugbot is abotu to say
#2921 [23:40] <|Kiikun|> :j
#2922 [23:41] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#2923 [23:41] <|Kiikun|> onix: um.. those dont happen to be Tabs...?
#2924 [23:41] <onix> what do you mean
#2925 [23:42] <mib_f5hvgy> I am trying to login but it won't let me
#2926 [23:42] <mib_f5hvgy> is there still mantinace
#2927 [23:42] <|Kiikun|> onix: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/toolbar/basics/toolbar-57.html
#2928 [23:42] <|Kiikun|> !login
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#2930 [23:43] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: login seems fine... this the same comp you connected with before?
#2931 [23:43] <onix> what do you mean in tabs? the email loggin is in a tab yes
#2932 [23:43] <mib_f5hvgy> I click login and it loads almost to the end and then it closes itself
#2933 [23:44] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: are there any hs_err_pid files in the same place as the client (exe/app/jar)?
#2934 [23:45] <mib_f5hvgy> no i don't think so
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#2936 [23:46] <|Kiikun|> onix: there is nowhere on the gmail website that woudl say hotmail that i know of. and i doubt hotmail woudl advertize gmail. so im asuming you have a hotmail tab and a gmail tab open amoung others.
#2937 [23:46] <|Kiikun|> onix: there is nowhere on the gmail website that woudl say hotmail that i know of. and i doubt hotmail woudl advertize gmail. so im asuming you have a hotmail tab and a gmail tab open amoung others.
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#2939 [23:46] <onix> no im on hotmail and it says gmail on upper right
#2940 [23:47] <K3V1N> Kiikun, could we possibel Use Teamviewer so u can see what problem i have?
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#2943 [23:50] <mib_f5hvgy> kikun, my kid was talking to you about this problem... let me check about the hs err pid file... but where should I check for that?
#2944 [23:50] <mib_f5hvgy> kikun... found them
#2945 [23:50] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: shoudl be in the same folder the client exe is in.
#2946 [23:50] <mib_f5hvgy> kikun, there are a bunch of them
#2947 [23:50] <|Kiikun|> open the most recent one and put it up on pastebin please?
#2948 [23:50] <|Kiikun|> :pastebin
#2949 [23:50] <WugBot> pastebin: Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
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#2951 [23:51] <wilma> hey guys, installed Minecraft and is all working fine, but im trying to figure out how to play/install/find the survival map Skyblocks, anyone able to help me out?
#2952 [23:51] <mib_f5hvgy> KIKUN http://pastebin.com/2q4Z1pcn
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#2954 [23:52] <wippler> Guys, still can't get it to work. Java Rune Time is up to date and can't re-download it. How do we get this game to work on a Mac OSX Lion?
#2955 [23:52] <KillerDragon> I'm looking for help with some mods. does anyone know what challe I should go to for help?
#2956 [23:52] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: its crashing on your intel video drivers... you happen to be on a toshiba c660 laptop?
#2957 [23:53] <|Kiikun|> ??> KillerDragon mods
#2958 [23:53] <VoxelHead> KillerDragon: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2959 [23:53] <VoxelHead> KillerDragon: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#2960 [23:53] <mib_f5hvgy> Kikun, yes a toshiba laptop... not sure of model.
#2961 [23:54] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: should say on one ofthe bottom stickers. c660s are gamiong laptops that have a specific fix. otherwise you just have to update your intel video drivers.
#2962 [23:54] <|Kiikun|> ?? gpu/intel
#2963 [23:54] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2964 [23:54] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
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#2966 [23:54] <K3V1N> im still not up and running
#2967 [23:55] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: still the 'cant type in the client' thing?
#2968 [23:55] <K3V1N> yeah
#2969 [23:56] <wippler> is anyone gonna help ME?
#2970 [23:56] <wippler> pleaasseee..
#2971 [23:56] <K3V1N> password and username, cant type it and cant login
#2972 [23:56] <|Kiikun|> ??> wippler patience
#2973 [23:56] <VoxelHead> wippler: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#2974 [23:56] <VoxelHead> wippler: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#2975 [23:56] <mib_f5hvgy> model psld0u-00800x
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#2977 [23:57] <wippler> !!!!!
#2978 [23:57] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: *google* satelite l355. just update your video drivers from http://downloadcenter.intel.com/ then
#2979 [23:57] <K3V1N> Kiikun this would go so much easyer if we just used teamviewer
#2980 [23:57] * mib_49dmb6 [mib_49dmb6@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2981 [23:57] <mib_49dmb6> Hello
#2982 [23:57] <mib_49dmb6> I started playing minecraft again recently and it keeps opening up the game menu, is there anyway to fix that?
#2983 [23:57] <wippler> Guys, still can't get it to work. Java Rune Time is up to date and can't re-download it. How do we get this game to work on a Mac OSX Lion?
#2984 [23:58] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: i already conceptualize the problem. i dont need to use teamviewer, the thing is i cant think of anything thats causing it besides java crashing.
#2985 [23:58] <K3V1N> okay, then how do i uninstall all my java and the reinstall the right version?
#2986 [23:58] <DopeGhoti> ??> wippler mac/reinst/tool
#2987 [23:58] <VoxelHead> wippler: (mac/reinst/tool) Here is a helpful tool to purge the preinstalled files for you: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/Minecraft_Reinstall.dmg
#2988 [23:59] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: open the run dialog (win+r) and type appwiz.cpl
#2989 [23:59] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: uninstall everything that starts with Java(tm)