#1 [00:01] <mib_f5hvgy> Kikun, sorry to bother you... I went to the link for intel drivers and put in i335 and satelite i355 and it gives me nothing. I searched on google for satelite i355, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for.
#2 [00:02] <|Kiikun|> mib_49dmb6: use the 'autodetect my drivers'. or i can have you give us a dxdiag
#3 [00:02] <mib_49dmb6> no one knows how to fix the menu popping up during gameplay?
#4 [00:02] <onix> ok i sent it again and its not sending it....what can i do
#5 [00:02] <|Kiikun|> mib_49dmb6: the esc menu? thats the window losing focus
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#7 [00:03] <mib_f5hvgy> kikun, i realized the i was an L.... tried the L... still nothing. I'm not quite sure what I'm looking for.
#8 [00:03] <mib_49dmb6> it says its auto saving then brings up the esc menu, it didnt use to do that until 1.1
#9 [00:04] <|Kiikun|> mib_49dmb6: go here http://www.intel.com/support/detect.htm?iid=dc_iduu or i can have you give us a DxDiag so i can find it myself
#10 [00:04] <|Kiikun|> erm
#11 [00:04] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: that one was for you
#12 [00:04] <onix> please help =/
#13 [00:04] <K3V1N> now i have uninstalled evrything whit java and installed it again still having the same problem...
#14 [00:05] <mib_f5hvgy> kikun you were "erm-ing" me? :)
#15 [00:05] <mib_49dmb6> says "Saving level" and brings up esc menu
#16 [00:05] <|Kiikun|> mib_49dmb6: not sure...
#17 [00:05] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: go here http://www.intel.com/support/detect.htm?iid=dc_iduu or i can have you give us a DxDiag so i can find it myself
#18 [00:05] <wippler> VoxellHead Thanks for the info. Tried that and we get the error "The action “Show Growl Notification” encountered an error." Any other suggestions or how do we contact Minecraft directly? We want a refund; this is crazy stuff - we've already wasted a couple of hours.
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#20 [00:06] <mib_oc83u9> sds
#21 [00:06] <mib_oc83u9> how do u fix timing out thingy
#22 [00:06] <mib_f5hvgy> kikun i will try the link... it's searching right now. Thanks!
#23 [00:07] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: if its not java... it might be some oddball application conflict with something else on your computer.
#24 [00:07] <K3V1N> lets try something...wher can i find the NEWEST java version
#25 [00:07] <|Kiikun|> mib_49dmb6: connecting to a server and it timing out?
#26 [00:07] <mib_oc83u9> java.com
#27 [00:07] <mib_oc83u9> \me too
#28 [00:07] <|Kiikun|> :j > K3V1N
#29 [00:07] <WugBot> K3V1N: (j) Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#30 [00:07] <|Kiikun|> blargh!@ too many mibs!
#31 [00:07] <mib_49dmb6> no, single player
#32 [00:08] <K3V1N> i have a 3D desktop and a 3rd party theme installed can that have anything to do whit it?
#33 [00:08] <|Kiikun|> mib_oc83u9: give us the server address please so we can have aubot poke it
#34 [00:08] <mib_f5hvgy> kikun FYI it says it just needs to update a wireless and a wifi networking file. i will update those right now. If you think of something, ummm.... LMK
#35 [00:09] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: possibly. try disabling it and tryign again? the launcher might just not like it
#36 [00:09] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: what it needs to update is the graphics drivers.
#37 [00:10] <wippler> please help me..
#38 [00:10] <WugBot> wippler: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#39 [00:10] <mib_f5hvgy> kikun Hmmm.... yep.. it said: A customized computer manufacturer driver is installed on your computer. The Intel Driver Update Utility is not able to update the driver. Installing a generic Intel driver instead of the customized computer manufacturer driver may cause technical issues. Contact your computer manufacturer for the latest driver for your comp
#40 [00:10] <|Kiikun|> ??> wippler mac/reinst
#41 [00:10] <VoxelHead> wippler: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#42 [00:10] <VoxelHead> wippler: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#43 [00:11] <|Kiikun|> ??> wippler mac/.minecraft/lion
#44 [00:11] <VoxelHead> wippler: (mac/.minecraft/lion) Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
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#47 [00:15] <K3V1N> btw Kiikun it also doz not work in the browser it dosent load, it says "new update availebel would u like to update and if i pres yes it dosent load if i press not now it loads and say loading done but nothing happens
#48 [00:15] <Fangedgameer> GreyVulpine I got the graphics accelerator downloaded and installed, and I'm sorry if you said anything last night, I do not remember. So if I may ask, what's next?
#49 [00:15] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: hmm... has it worked before?
#50 [00:16] <K3V1N> no i bught the game to day and i havent been playing yet due to my problems
#51 [00:16] <K3V1N> im using googel crome if that has anything to say
#52 [00:16] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: does your windows username have an ! or other special character in it?
#53 [00:17] <K3V1N> my username is K3V1N
#54 [00:17] <|Kiikun|> with windows, not minecraft
#55 [00:17] <K3V1N> yes
#56 [00:17] <K3V1N> my windows username is K3V1N
#57 [00:18] <|Kiikun|> ok :/ that shoudl be fine...
#58 [00:18] <K3V1N> and my pc name is k3v1n-pc i think
#59 [00:18] <|Kiikun|> java has issues with !s in names... so wanted to make sure that wasnt the issue.
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#61 [00:19] <helpplease> hello?
#62 [00:20] <helpplease> I been playing 1.1 and lately the menu keeps popping up and auto saving on an extremely frequent basis, can anyone help me with this issue?
#63 [00:21] <mib_f5hvgy> Kikun Do you have any idea where i would find the latest video driver for my Toshiba laptop? It says to contact the manufacturer. Any thoughts?
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#65 [00:22] <|Kiikun|> ??> mib_f5hvgy win/dxdiag
#66 [00:22] <VoxelHead> mib_f5hvgy: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#67 [00:22] <VoxelHead> mib_f5hvgy: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#68 [00:22] <helpplease> can anyone help me with my issue?
#69 [00:22] <|Kiikun|> helpplease: were you the one here earlier?
#70 [00:23] <mib_f5hvgy> kikun, ah yes, you did say the dxdiag was an option. Sorry... i'm doing it right now.
#71 [00:23] <helpplease> probably
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#73 [00:24] <helpplease> i cant even enjoy the game, i break like 2-3 blocks and it opens up the esc menu and says it is saving
#74 [00:24] <mib_f5hvgy> kikun http://pastebin.com/d6FGjzm6
#75 [00:24] <nj15> VoxelHead - still doesn't work.. please help. It still comes up with the same error..
#76 [00:24] <Fangedgameer> Is OptiFine for 1.1 out yet?
#77 [00:24] <DopeGhoti> ??> Fangedgameer mods
#78 [00:24] <VoxelHead> Fangedgameer: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#79 [00:24] <VoxelHead> Fangedgameer: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#80 [00:26] <helpplease> -_-
#81 [00:26] <K3V1N> Hmm stil having problems
#82 [00:26] <DopeGhoti> helpplease: Sorry, but I am not familiar with this issue.
#83 [00:27] <helpplease> im playing
#84 [00:27] <helpplease> it stops to save very often
#85 [00:27] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: download and install this. http://downloadmirror.intel.com/17407/a08/winvista_15124.exe
#86 [00:27] <helpplease> it didnt use to do this
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#88 [00:27] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: if it complains about 'not for this computer!' then tell us. im already looking into toshiba's site
#89 [00:27] <Nate> It keeps saying that my payment failed! What's wrong?
#90 [00:28] <|Kiikun|> Nate: your payment is failing. probably your bank is blocking it due to it being an international transaction
#91 [00:28] <mib_f5hvgy> kikun, does that mean I shouldn't install the file from the link?
#92 [00:29] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: the file i just linked, install it. im just saying if it complains im already looking for alternative
#93 [00:29] <Nate> No. My friend purchased it under the same wi-fi connection (if that has anything to do with it) and his worked perfectly. I, on a different computer, tried with the same credit card and it keeps failing.
#94 [00:29] <|Kiikun|> Nate: same card... did he just purchase it today?
#95 [00:30] <Nate> Yes.
#96 [00:30] <Nate> We also tried it with different credit cards and a different account but it still didn't work.
#97 [00:30] <mib_f5hvgy> kikun, yep you're right... :) it says "If this program didn't install correctly, try reinstalling using the setting that are compatible with this version of Windows" Program Package 62805
#98 [00:30] <K3V1N> Kiikun still having the same damn problem?
#99 [00:30] <|Kiikun|> Nate: its still possibly the bank. or moneybookers could be blockign it.
#100 [00:31] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: o.o; not the error i was expecting...
#101 [00:31] <Nate> I have the iPad version. Is it possible to get creepers and other features on that?
#102 [00:32] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: it MIGHT be some security program you have installed.... im completely stumped here.
#103 [00:32] <K3V1N> AVG?
#104 [00:32] <|Kiikun|> avg likes blocking parts of the downloads i think,. havent heard it breakign the client itself
#105 [00:32] <|Kiikun|> then again.. they are the same derps that flagged winamp as a virus
#106 [00:32] <K3V1N> i cant even restor my windows coz the latest i have is yesterday
#107 [00:33] <mib_f5hvgy> kikun I have the option to Reinstall using recommended settings OR "This program installed correctly"
#108 [00:33] <nj15> ???
#109 [00:33] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: did it do any actual installing? or just went to that window?
#110 [00:33] <Nate> Hello?
#111 [00:34] <|Kiikun|> Nate: im not sure the ipad has survival in it yet.
#112 [00:35] <Nate> It doesn't. Do you think there will be an update? All I want are my creepers!!!! Haha
#113 [00:35] <mib_f5hvgy> kikun it extracted a bunch of files, but then it did say "The driver being installed is not validated for this computer. Please obtain the appropriate driver from the computer's manufacturer. Setup will Exit."
#114 [00:36] <mib_f5hvgy> kikun then I clicked OK..
#115 [00:36] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: ok yes. thats the error i was expecting... and on toshiobas site. gimem a min.
#116 [00:36] <mib_f5hvgy> ok
#117 [00:37] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/support/downloads/driver_video_intel_27141D.exe
#118 [00:37] <|Kiikun|> try that one
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#120 [00:37] <t3hkid> Hi mr wug
#121 [00:38] <t3hkid> i got the teamviewer you wanted
#122 [00:38] <mib_f5hvgy> kikun it wants to me to exit all programs before installing.
#123 [00:39] <mib_f5hvgy> kikun should i close all my windows and then come back to this chat when I'm done/
#124 [00:39] <|Kiikun|> mib_f5hvgy: you can. we're not going anywhere :P
#125 [00:39] <mib_f5hvgy> LOL ok, thanks a bunch.
#126 [00:40] <t3hkid> Wug?
#127 [00:42] <|Kiikun|> he's probably asleep or afk
#128 [00:43] <t3hkid> oh :/
#129 [00:44] <t3hkid> ok ill wait he said he would help me with my minecraft program with teamviewer
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#132 [00:44] <shadoskill> Is this the right place to get help with Towny mod for bukkit?
#133 [00:45] <K3V1N> Huraaa! it worked! i uninstalled AVG and the current theme i had installed and now it works!
#134 [00:45] <nj15> IS ANYONE GONNA HELP ME?!
#135 [00:46] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: :3 so it was one or the other causing it. i'd blame avg... but gui stuff liek that can cause off problems
#136 [00:46] <|Kiikun|> :ww > nj15
#137 [00:46] <WugBot> nj15: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#138 [00:46] <t3hkid> Nj15 Please Wait The people who help are people not bots
#139 [00:46] <K3V1N> new problem *sigh*
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#141 [00:47] <ToshhibaL355Video> kikun???
#142 [00:47] <|Kiikun|> ToshhibaL355Video: hi :P
#143 [00:47] <|Kiikun|> did it help?
#144 [00:47] <ToshhibaL355Video> Hey, the link you sent me for the graphics adapter worked!! :)
#145 [00:47] <K3V1N> when trying to run the latest update it dosent load anything
#146 [00:47] <ToshhibaL355Video> kikun one more question... where do i get 64 bit java? minecraft says my kid needs that for viewing far distance. any thoughts?
#147 [00:48] <nj15> MY problem is that mine craft doesn't work, it wants me to install Java Runtime but we already have the latest version and our internet connection is up.. won't let me reinstall java and all the solutions from voxelhead didn't work ... please help
#148 [00:48] <|Kiikun|> ToshhibaL355Video: your computer isnt 64bit (atleast not from what i saw in the dxdiag) so you cant use 64bit java.
#149 [00:48] <ToshhibaL355Video> ah ha!!! :)
#150 [00:49] <K3V1N> Kiikun when updating minecraft it freezes
#151 [00:49] <ToshhibaL355Video> Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!! for everything. Have a good day!
#152 [00:49] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: locks up freezes or the download just stalls?
#153 [00:49] <K3V1N> download just stalls
#154 [00:50] <t3hkid> Nj15 Do You know how to unistall progams on your OS
#155 [00:50] <|Kiikun|> nj15: youre on mac? im no expert on macs.
#156 [00:50] <|Kiikun|> ??> K3V1N win/reinst
#157 [00:50] <VoxelHead> K3V1N: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#158 [00:51] <VoxelHead> K3V1N: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#159 [00:51] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: do that. it may be stalling because theres bugged out files partially downloaded.
#160 [00:51] <K3V1N> the is no minecraft directory
#161 [00:52] <nj15> t3hkid - yes i do why?
#162 [00:52] <t3hkid> Nj15 Try and Unistall it then
#163 [00:53] <t3hkid> install it
#164 [00:53] <nj15> t3hkid - already did
#165 [00:53] <t3hkid> Hummmmm
#166 [00:54] <K3V1N> Kiikun i havent played minecraft before its the first time im trying to run it, i can now type in password and username and login but updater stalls
#167 [00:54] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: hmm... can you make a new user account on the computer (name it minecraft or somethign simple) and try the game there?
#168 [00:55] <t3hkid> Nj15 Please Vist this and i t might help http://www.minecraft.net/support/
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#171 [00:56] <mr_sticky> okay i downloaded the game from your site, registered, but when i tried to play it said user not premium. What do i have to do to play this thing??
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#173 [00:57] <nj15> t3hkid - already did, it is useless
#174 [00:57] <|Kiikun|> mr_flea: you have to buy the game to beable to play.
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#176 [00:57] <mr_sticky> darn
#177 [00:57] <|Kiikun|> erm
#178 [00:57] <Wug> blerp derp
#179 [00:57] <|Kiikun|> sorry mr_flea :P
#180 [00:57] <|Kiikun|> lol hi wug
#181 [00:57] <|Kiikun|> lol hi wug
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#183 [00:57] * Wug pings mr_flea too :3
#183 [00:58] <t3hkid> WUG
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#185 [00:58] <t3hkid> nj15 i dont know then try and make a post on the Minecraft support forum then they might be able to help
#186 [00:59] <t3hkid> Wug I got the teamviewer you wanted so you could help my minecraft
#187 [00:59] <Wug> t3hkid: :P I cant now, I'm doing work
#188 [00:59] <Wug> kiikun can though
#189 [00:59] <|Kiikun|> nj15: you you can try coming back when scott's awake :P
#190 [01:00] * |Kiikun| is busy o.o;
#190 [01:00] * Wug threatens |Kiikun| with horror and death
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#191 [01:00] <Wug> just kidding, if you dont have time thats ok
#192 [01:00] * |Kiikun| is good friends with them
#192 [01:00] <|Kiikun|> :P
#193 [01:00] <K3V1N> Kiikun that dident work
#194 [01:00] <|Kiikun|> what was t3hkid's prblem anyway?
#195 [01:00] <Wug> I have no idea
#196 [01:01] <t3hkid> Welll
#197 [01:01] <Wug> I think it was java related
#198 [01:01] <Wug> but im not sure
#199 [01:01] <|Kiikun|> Wug: kev's having java related issues too :/ he just got the game and its stalling on the downloads.
#200 [01:01] <Wug> my brain has been occupied with other things
#201 [01:01] <Wug> |Kiikun|: stalling? check for AV interference and relevant knowledge
#202 [01:02] <Wug> and accept the invite >:(
#203 [01:02] <t3hkid> my minecraft doesnt not want to install the update just freezes on done loading
#204 [01:02] <Wug> oh, I remember
#205 [01:02] <t3hkid> And its wierd
#206 [01:02] <|Kiikun|> he already uninstalled avg because it was crashing the client (or it was the 3d gui thing)
#207 [01:02] <Wug> t3hkid: you were having classnotfound exceptions or something
#208 [01:02] <|Kiikun|> and i got an invite? o.o;
#209 [01:02] <t3hkid> wait ill use client you gave
#210 [01:02] <Wug> |Kiikun|: to a certain ##wugbotdev
#211 [01:03] <K3V1N> got and idea on how to fix my problem?
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#213 [01:04] <t3hkid> then done
#214 [01:05] <t3hkid> put it on the pastebin
#215 [01:05] <t3hkid> http://pastebin.com/uJg50452
#216 [01:06] <t3hkid> its something wrong with my computer but what it installed on my friends computer but not mine
#217 [01:06] <K3V1N> when running game it stalls when i try to update what to do?
#218 [01:07] <Wug> K3V1N: t3hkid: I cant help right now, just wait here and someone will help you sometime
#219 [01:08] <|Kiikun|> t3hkid: have you tried deleting the bin and resources folders yet?
#220 [01:09] <t3hkid> Deleted Whole Minecraft
#221 [01:09] <|Kiikun|> t3hkid: the .minecraft folder?
#222 [01:09] <t3hkid> yea
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#224 [01:10] <resinate> guys anyone know why i cant update my game to 1.1, even clean install doesnt work instant crash every time
#225 [01:10] <K3V1N> kiikun u there?
#226 [01:10] <resinate> force update, full wipe, nothing works is the game server down?
#227 [01:11] <resinate> guess no one knows why
#228 [01:11] <t3hkid> I dont
#229 [01:12] <resinate> its like i was banned for no reason
#230 [01:12] <resinate> i paid legitly
#231 [01:12] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: yes. not sure why its stalling :/ the three main things that do it should already be fixed or gonwe
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#233 [01:12] <|Kiikun|> resinate: the game runs or no?
#234 [01:12] <resinate> it runs
#235 [01:12] <resinate> i login and it starts dling then BAM freeze
#236 [01:12] <resinate> at 4%
#237 [01:13] <resinate> 1.0 works just not 1.1
#238 [01:13] <K3V1N> i found my mincraft folder i feel stupid its named .mincraft and i lokked after mincraft spamming the M key
#239 [01:13] <K3V1N> looked*
#240 [01:13] <resinate> and it seems ALOT of ppl are having trouble with this
#241 [01:13] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: :P yes the . is unusual for windows... but is linux's 'hide me' flag
#242 [01:14] <K3V1N> then what now?
#243 [01:14] <resinate> why doei guess MC is another game into the dust for now
#244 [01:14] <|Kiikun|> resinate: ive noticed... im afraid to try forcupdatign myself to see if it IS the server.
#245 [01:14] <resinate> didnt u read
#246 [01:14] <|Kiikun|> K3V1N: is there a bin and resources folder in the .minecraft folder?
#247 [01:14] <resinate> i did force update, and a full wipe
#248 [01:15] <resinate> im blocked from dling the game
#249 [01:15] <resinate> which is BS cuz i paid for it
#250 [01:15] <|Kiikun|> resinate: and its stalling for YOU. if it stalls for ME as well then the chance its the server is highly problablt
#251 [01:15] <resinate> delete ur folder and login
#252 [01:15] <resinate> whole folder
#253 [01:15] <|Kiikun|> ??> resinate attitude
#254 [01:15] <VoxelHead> resinate: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#255 [01:15] <VoxelHead> resinate: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#256 [01:15] <|Kiikun|> also im going to try anyway
#257 [01:15] <resinate> im just mad i paid for the game
#258 [01:16] <resinate> only way to update it is thru piracy
#259 [01:16] <resinate> every update doesnt work
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#261 [01:16] <|Kiikun|> update is far slower than im used to seing.
#262 [01:16] <resinate> i dunno what else im supposed to do
#263 [01:16] <|Kiikun|> but still goes.
#264 [01:16] <resinate> ive waited days too
#265 [01:16] <|Kiikun|> i think the server is just getting overloaded
#266 [01:17] <resinate> where is server located?
#267 [01:17] <resinate> over seas?
#268 [01:17] <|Kiikun|> amazon's cloud
#269 [01:17] <resinate> where is that?
#270 [01:17] <dylanbarberdude> Global
#271 [01:17] <resinate> u think u can do a full clean dl of 1.1
#272 [01:17] <|Kiikun|> wherever amazon decised to stick their servers?
#273 [01:17] <resinate> and upload it?
#274 [01:17] <|Kiikun|> resinate: cant do that.
#275 [01:18] <resinate> so no one can upload and no one can dl from main servers in usa
#276 [01:18] <resinate> -.-
#277 [01:18] <|Kiikun|> resinate: im in usa.
#278 [01:18] <resinate> i even tried the new exe
#279 [01:18] <K3V1N> kiikun its still stalling
#280 [01:19] <resinate> i dont wanna be mean
#281 [01:20] <resinate> but before they work on game they should work on getting a new server lol
#282 [01:20] <resinate> they make massive bank
#283 [01:20] <tyteen4a03> |Kiikun|: is amazon being crappy once again?
#284 [01:20] <|Kiikun|> i understand your annoyed by it.. but theres nothing i can do :/
#285 [01:20] <resinate> they can ezly afford it
#286 [01:20] <|Kiikun|> tyteen4a03: yes.
#287 [01:20] <Wug> resinate: I didnt have any issues with it
#288 [01:20] <g> my brain is full of f**k
#289 [01:20] <Wug> g: thats normal
#290 [01:20] <tyteen4a03> g: good
#291 [01:20] <resinate> they sold like 20 mil copies at 20$ each
#292 [01:20] <resinate> thats 400 mil$
#293 [01:20] <g> just soft of
#294 [01:20] <g> exploded
#295 [01:20] <g> whenI got that notice
#296 [01:20] <g> anyway, who needs help?
#297 [01:20] * g slaps VoxelHead around a bit with a large ><(((°>.
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#298 [01:20] <K3V1N> i need help
#299 [01:20] <t3hkid> Im just wondering if its our computers i went on my friends laptop yesterday installed minecraft easy
#300 [01:20] <|Kiikun|> resinate: they uses amazon's cloud to hosty the servers. any issues with server overload is AMAZON'S problem.
#301 [01:21] <g> K3V1N, alright, what's the problem?
#302 [01:21] <resinate> w/e this file is
#303 [01:21] <resinate> lwjgl.jar
#304 [01:21] <tyteen4a03> resinate: actually, about 30% of them got them at alpha, which costed them at 10euro, and 60% of them got them at beta, which costed them at 15 euro
#305 [01:21] <resinate> it wont dl
#306 [01:21] <K3V1N> when starting the game upon updating it stalls
#307 [01:21] <|Kiikun|> g: he's stalling on downloads... and im begining t thein amazon is going derpy
#308 [01:21] <tyteen4a03> ^^^^all figures are estimate
#309 [01:21] <g> stalling would sound like an amazon fail
#310 [01:21] <|Kiikun|> resinate: . . . have you updated your video driver recently? or tried disablign your av?
#311 [01:21] <resinate> yea
#312 [01:21] <tyteen4a03> Minecraft players: Crash amazon!
#313 [01:22] <resinate> i have to shut off AV in order to hack maplestory lol
#314 [01:22] <tyteen4a03> resinate: normal
#315 [01:22] <K3V1N> if i say not now it almost loads but a littel is missing?
#316 [01:22] <resinate> my comp is a beast
#317 [01:22] <resinate> so im pretty sure its not me
#318 [01:22] <|Kiikun|> resinate: also.. using java 6 and not java 7?
#319 [01:22] <resinate> java 6
#320 [01:22] <resinate> ?
#321 [01:22] <tyteen4a03> many cracks uses packing techologies similar to viruses to not let the original company to crack it up so easily and fix the exploit
#322 [01:22] <resinate> wheres dl for that
#323 [01:22] <resinate> i have 7
#324 [01:22] <tyteen4a03> windows 7 or java 7?
#325 [01:23] <resinate> i use windows 7 ult 64 bit with java 7
#326 [01:23] <|Kiikun|> resinate: uninstall java 7 and install java 6 from this link.
#327 [01:23] <|Kiikun|> :j
#328 [01:23] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#329 [01:23] * tyteen4a03 goes to food
#329 [01:23] <resinate> wow if java 7 is the problem
#330 [01:23] <resinate> notch needs to fix that
#331 [01:24] <resinate> no one will ever know that fix lol
#332 [01:24] <|Kiikun|> its java 7 not being RELEASED YET
#333 [01:24] <|Kiikun|> its out for developers to test it
#334 [01:24] <resinate> thats odd mine doesnt say java 7 beta
#335 [01:24] <resinate> jre-7-windows-x64
#336 [01:24] <|Kiikun|> and only people going to download java 7 specificly will ever have that issue
#337 [01:24] <resinate> thats what google gave me lol
#338 [01:25] <dylanbarberdude> I have java 7 and im not a dev
#339 [01:25] <resinate> wierd
#340 [01:25] <resinate> i have both java 6 and 7 installed
#341 [01:25] <DopeGhoti> be that as it may, is't still experimental.
#342 [01:25] <resinate> did notch ever fix the block cloning?
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#344 [01:26] <|Kiikun|> you mean duplicatin glitches? they get fixed once theyre known
#345 [01:26] <resinate> its been around since beta lol
#346 [01:26] <resinate> the one where u make a water wat
#347 [01:26] <resinate> way*
#348 [01:26] <t3hkid> Kiikun ?
#349 [01:27] <resinate> then place a hell portal at the end lol
#350 [01:27] <|Kiikun|> beta was only a few months ago :P
#351 [01:27] <|Kiikun|> oh that one
#352 [01:27] <resinate> yea
#353 [01:27] <|Kiikun|> its a bug. itll get fixed eventually
#354 [01:27] <resinate> notch needs to fix the java 7 issue
#355 [01:27] <resinate> or make a post on main page about it
#356 [01:27] <K3V1N> ppl on youtube had the same problem as me 7 months ago...and i cant find a fix
#357 [01:27] <|Kiikun|> resinate: notch isnt the main dev of minecraft anymore. its jeb.
#358 [01:27] <resinate> whaa
#359 [01:27] <resinate> lol
#360 [01:28] <resinate> SHYT
#361 [01:28] <resinate> oops
#362 [01:28] <resinate> i deeleted all my saves
#363 [01:28] <K3V1N> still having loading problem?
#364 [01:28] <resinate> no
#365 [01:29] <resinate> it was the java 7 thing
#366 [01:29] <K3V1N> i have loading problem
#367 [01:29] <resinate> btw have thye fixed the memory cap issue?
#368 [01:29] <resinate> or should i still use my bat file?
#369 [01:30] <|Kiikun|> resinate: memory cap? the game tells java to use 1gb of memory max.
#370 [01:30] <resinate> yea
#371 [01:30] <t3hkid> Wierd thing is i can install minecraft on my friends laptop but Not my computer :O
#372 [01:30] <|Kiikun|> above that you need a batch file to tell java to use more or less
#373 [01:30] <resinate> i made a bat to use 8 gigs
#374 [01:30] <|Kiikun|> resinate: you shoudl only need that if your using alot of mods and an hd texture pack
#375 [01:30] <DopeGhoti> There's no point to fixing "the Jav 7 issue" until the Java 7 API is actually stable
#376 [01:31] <resinate> kinda wish they made water bottles for enchanting stack
#377 [01:31] <DopeGhoti> uh
#378 [01:31] <DopeGhoti> you don't need water bottles for enchanting
#379 [01:31] <resinate> AHHAHA i have a single stack of eye of enders of 126 LOL
#380 [01:31] <|Kiikun|> potion making
#381 [01:32] <K3V1N> what is the latest mincraft version 1.1?
#382 [01:32] <DopeGhoti> correct
#383 [01:32] <t3hkid> Potions :D
#384 [01:32] <DopeGhoti> however, AFAIK
#385 [01:32] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp.1.1
#386 [01:32] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/1.1
#387 [01:32] <VoxelHead> smp/1.1: The 1.1 edition of the server has not yet been released. See also smp/recentupdate
#388 [01:32] <resinate> im trying to make run faster potions lol
#389 [01:32] <|Kiikun|> o.o;
#390 [01:32] <K3V1N> can we fix my loading problem?
#391 [01:32] <resinate> my game has no loading screens?
#392 [01:32] <resinate> that bad?
#393 [01:32] <|Kiikun|> DopeGhoti: im stumped on getting kevin able to download :/
#394 [01:32] <DopeGhoti> K3V1N: did you already try..
#395 [01:33] <DopeGhoti> ??> K3V1N win/profile
#396 [01:33] <K3V1N> yes
#397 [01:33] <VoxelHead> K3V1N: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#398 [01:33] <|Kiikun|> yes
#399 [01:33] <VoxelHead> K3V1N: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#400 [01:33] <K3V1N> it just loads a littel and then stalls
#401 [01:33] <resinate> did they ever fix the eye of ender bug?
#402 [01:33] <DopeGhoti> and you're already running the current rev of Java 1.6?
#403 [01:33] <|Kiikun|> DopeGhoti: profile, java, minecrat reinst.
#404 [01:33] <K3V1N> allrady done that
#405 [01:33] <|Kiikun|> resinate: what bug?
#406 [01:33] <DopeGhoti> K3V1N: do you have any other parallel installations of Java?
#407 [01:33] <resinate> in my game it only leads to 1 stronghold
#408 [01:33] <K3V1N> nope
#409 [01:34] <resinate> sometimes
#410 [01:34] <|Kiikun|> resinate: it shoudl lead to the nearest stronghold.
#411 [01:34] <DopeGhoti> Try a Linux liveCD?
#412 [01:34] <resinate> itll lead me away from my only stronghold to blank spots
#413 [01:34] <K3V1N> i dont think i do
#414 [01:34] <t3hkid> I Got minecraft 1.1 on my memmory stick should i try that?
#415 [01:34] <resinate> like it took me to this one spot and i dug down to where the eye floats
#416 [01:34] <resinate> its a mine shaft lol
#417 [01:34] <|Kiikun|> resinate: post it on the bug reports then.
#418 [01:34] <resinate> trying to find an apple lol
#419 [01:35] <resinate> i have like 2000 gold blocks
#420 [01:35] <resinate> no apples lol
#421 [01:35] <|Kiikun|> its possible the stronghold didnt generate
#422 [01:35] <|Kiikun|> resinate: gold apples are made from nuggets now, not blocks :P
#423 [01:35] <resinate> u still need an apple tho?
#424 [01:35] <|Kiikun|> yup
#425 [01:35] <resinate> yea
#426 [01:35] <resinate> cant find any
#427 [01:35] <|Kiikun|> and they are rare too. (1/200 from oak leaves)
#428 [01:35] <resinate> tried the tree method lol
#429 [01:36] <resinate> i grew a huge forest of like 500 tress
#430 [01:36] <resinate> cut them all down
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#432 [01:36] <resinate> no apples
#433 [01:36] <resinate> even tried growing oaks in hell
#434 [01:36] <resinate> nothing
#435 [01:36] <K3V1N> i have java 6 and i can log in and i can press update and then it just stalls
#436 [01:36] <resinate> do u cut the tree downs?
#437 [01:36] <resinate> or how do u get apples to drop from oaks?
#438 [01:36] <resinate> just punch the leaves?
#439 [01:37] <powerhousesu> Hey, I am having some issues with colours in the SMP server I play on. Anyone have similar issues?
#440 [01:37] <|Kiikun|> resinate: they shoudl do like the saplings.
#441 [01:38] <|Kiikun|> powerhousesu: colors? like grass at the edge of biomes?
#442 [01:38] <resinate> now i gotta update my zelda text mod
#443 [01:38] <powerhousesu> No, text
#444 [01:38] <|Kiikun|> powerhousesu: colored text is a mod. go ask in #bukkit
#445 [01:38] <powerhousesu> Ah, alright
#446 [01:38] <resinate> WOW
#447 [01:38] <resinate> wtf was added to minecraft
#448 [01:38] <resinate> 1.0 was 2.4 megs now its 3.7 lol
#449 [01:40] <resinate> later all thanks
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#451 [01:41] <K3V1N> still having loading stall
#452 [01:42] <K3V1N> what compitabel mode shuld ir run it whith?
#453 [01:42] <t3hkid> :( Thought i had minecraft on my memory stick But :(
#454 [01:44] <t3hkid> Does anyone have teamviewer?
#455 [01:49] <t3hkid> anyone who can help
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#460 [01:54] <t3hkid> oh my god :(
#461 [01:56] <schnozzle> when i try to get to a server it says the server is outdated but there is 88 people in the server at the same time... so what is going on?
#462 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> They've haven't updated the server, and the people haven't updated their clients from 1.0.0 to 1.1
#463 [01:57] <schnozzle> ok thanks!
#464 [01:59] <K3V1N> Can any1 help me?
#465 [01:59] <WugBot> K3V1N: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#466 [02:00] <K3V1N> when i log in to minecraft, and it says "would u like to update?" and i press yes it stalls
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#468 [02:02] <K3V1N> well?
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#471 [02:03] <K3V1N> SORRY BACK
#472 [02:03] <t3hkid> Me too K3V1N does it stop at like done loading?
#473 [02:03] <K3V1N> yews
#474 [02:03] <K3V1N> yes*
#475 [02:03] <t3hkid> Same Here
#476 [02:03] <powerhousesu> Try deleting your Bin Folder and force updating
#477 [02:04] <t3hkid> Which client ?
#478 [02:04] <t3hkid> The one wugbot gave
#479 [02:04] <t3hkid> or the minecraft.net one?
#480 [02:04] <gunther> can you un update your minecraft? because this one server has not upgraded and i would like to join it...
#481 [02:05] <K3V1N> still nothing
#482 [02:05] <t3hkid> Same
#483 [02:06] <K3V1N> im going to bed deeling whit this tomorrow
#484 [02:06] <t3hkid> ok
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#486 [02:08] <gunther> can you unupdate your minecraft?
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#489 [02:17] <MrDyne> Would support@mojang.com be the best address to beg for a Minecraft account e-mail change?
#490 [02:18] <powerhousesu> Do they even do that?
#491 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Try help@mojang.com
#492 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> No idea
#493 [02:18] <powerhousesu> I wouldn't bother them with it tbh
#494 [02:19] <MrDyne> My e-mail is part of my website and I'm losing my website in a few months so I wont be able to recover my minecraft account in the future.
#495 [02:19] <mr_pants> what do i do if i try to go to a server but it says failed to verify username?
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#497 [02:21] <mr_pants> what do i do if i try to get to a server but it says failed to verify username?
#498 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> mr_pants - Did you pay for an account?
#499 [02:22] <mr_pants> yeah
#500 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Try another server
#501 [02:22] <cosmicvoyager> Hello. I am extremely disappointed that smooth lighting *still* has not been fixed. It has been bugged since 1.8! Glowstone does not glow with it on, and glass casts shadows. It ruins my builds. Smooth lighitng OFF http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy115/cosmicvoyager/2012-01-14_010931.png Smooth Lighing ON http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy115/cosmicvoyager/2012-01-14_010948.png
#502 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, nothing we can do about it
#503 [02:23] <cosmicvoyager> Everyone, please complain! File bug reports please!
#504 [02:24] <powerhousesu> Since everyone loves people who complain
#505 [02:24] <cosmicvoyager> I know. The squeaky wheel gets the oil.
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#507 [02:34] <t3hkid> put my minecraft update problem on the support forums :D
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#511 [02:48] <Sharcaan> Hey guys
#512 [02:48] <Sharcaan> Anyone for a little tech help
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#514 [02:48] <Sharcaan> Not sure why my MC isn't working
#515 [02:50] <Sharcaan> So I have this error
#516 [02:50] <Sharcaan> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT c4e4e3ad -------- Generated 1/14/12 2:29 AM Minecraft: Minecraft 1.0.0 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java: 1.6.0_30, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 OpenGL: GeForce 6150 LE/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! version 2.0.1, NVIDIA Corporation java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Document
#517 [02:51] <lemon-rev> Sharcaan have you tryed reinstalling java
#518 [02:51] <Sharcaan> Yes
#519 [02:51] <lemon-rev> ??> Sharcaan win/dxdiag
#520 [02:51] <VoxelHead> Sharcaan: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#521 [02:51] <Sharcaan> Shall I paste the other half kind sir
#522 [02:51] <VoxelHead> Sharcaan: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#523 [02:52] <Sharcaan> Will do right now
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#525 [02:53] <Sharcaan> http://pastebin.com/Nn7QY4SP
#526 [02:54] <Sharcaan> I hope I did it properly I believe so
#527 [02:54] <lemon-rev> yea did well
#528 [02:54] <lemon-rev> give me tick
#529 [02:55] <Sharcaan> Tick?
#530 [02:55] <Sharcaan> I suppose that just means give you a moment? xD
#531 [02:55] <lemon-rev> Sharcaan http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_178.24_whql.html < can you please see if you can download and install that please
#532 [02:55] <lemon-rev> then try mc again
#533 [02:55] <lemon-rev> yea basicly
#534 [02:55] <Sharcaan> Ok will do
#535 [02:56] <Sharcaan> Doing right now sir
#536 [02:57] <lemon-rev> k
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#538 [02:59] <Sharcaan> Lemon
#539 [02:59] <mib_02x2kk> hey how do u add mods to a smp sever
#540 [02:59] <Sharcaan> It says I must restart my computer I will be back sir
#541 [02:59] <mib_02x2kk> server*
#542 [03:00] <mib_02x2kk> does anyone know how to add mods to a server
#543 [03:01] <mib_02x2kk> is anyone on?
#544 [03:02] <mib_02x2kk> anyone?
#545 [03:03] <mib_02x2kk> hello?
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#547 [03:04] <mib_02x2kk> anyone know how to add mods to a server
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#549 [03:05] <sharcaan> Lemon that is a no go :(
#550 [03:05] <mib_02x2kk> anyone know how to add mods to a server
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#552 [03:05] <lemon-rev> give me a tick
#553 [03:05] <lemon-rev> please
#554 [03:05] <lemon-rev> whats up ?
#555 [03:05] <sharcaan> Sure :)
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#557 [03:06] <mib_02x2kk> say lemon would u know how to add mods toa MC server would u
#558 [03:06] <wilma> I cant play minecraft because it won't let me can you fix for me please?
#559 [03:06] <lemon-rev> i dont run mods sorry
#560 [03:07] <mib_02x2kk> whats it saying?
#561 [03:07] <sharcaan> ....No one reads the rules here do they
#562 [03:08] <wilma> that error ecures all the time :(
#563 [03:08] <mib_02x2kk> ?
#564 [03:08] <sharcaan> But lemon I installed the driver
#565 [03:08] <sharcaan> Didn't fix unfortunately
#566 [03:08] <mib_02x2kk> whats your problem?
#567 [03:09] <sharcaan> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT c4e4e3ad -------- Generated 1/14/12 3:04 AM Minecraft: Minecraft 1.0.0 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java: 1.6.0_30, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 OpenGL: GeForce 6150 LE/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! version 2.1.2, NVIDIA Corporation java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Docum
#568 [03:09] <sharcaan> Long error for some odd reason
#569 [03:10] <sharcaan> it goes on but I don't want to flood chat
#570 [03:10] <mib_02x2kk> like what
#571 [03:10] <lemon-rev> sharcaan so its still not working ?
#572 [03:10] <sharcaan> No lemon
#573 [03:10] <sharcaan> Didn't work >.<
#574 [03:10] <lemon-rev> ??> sharcaan win/reinst
#575 [03:10] <lemon-rev> try that
#576 [03:10] <VoxelHead> sharcaan: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#577 [03:11] <VoxelHead> sharcaan: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#578 [03:11] <sharcaan> Voxel
#579 [03:11] <sharcaan> I did %appdata% and there is no .mincraft
#580 [03:11] <lemon-rev> hm
#581 [03:12] <lemon-rev> so there isnt a .minecraft folder ?
#582 [03:12] <sharcaan> Nope
#583 [03:12] <mib_02x2kk> did u trry running it in the browser?
#584 [03:12] <sharcaan> did run .mincraft
#585 [03:12] <sharcaan> Didn't work
#586 [03:12] <lemon-rev> ok,
#587 [03:12] <mib_02x2kk> did u trry running MC in the browser?
#588 [03:12] <lemon-rev> goto minecraft.net login and click on the home page in broswer
#589 [03:12] <lemon-rev> ty mib
#590 [03:13] <t3hkid> i got a problem
#591 [03:13] <lemon-rev> whats up t3?
#592 [03:13] <t3hkid> update
#593 [03:14] <lemon-rev> what about it
#594 [03:14] <mib_02x2kk> elaberate
#595 [03:14] <t3hkid> Wait
#596 [03:14] <t3hkid> ill give you link to forum post i made
#597 [03:14] <t3hkid> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/941397-update-issue-11-windows-minecraft/
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#599 [03:15] <sharcaan> Lemon
#600 [03:15] <mib_02x2kk> oooo mine was doing that the other night
#601 [03:15] <sharcaan> In browser mc is stuck at done loading
#602 [03:16] <mib_02x2kk> have u played mc on that comp b4
#603 [03:16] <sharcaan> Yes
#604 [03:16] <mib_02x2kk> t3
#605 [03:16] <sharcaan> oh
#606 [03:16] <sharcaan> xD
#607 [03:16] <mib_02x2kk> my fualt
#608 [03:16] <sharcaan> Np
#609 [03:16] <t3hkid> Yes
#610 [03:17] <t3hkid> i got 1.0.0
#611 [03:17] <lemon-rev> sharcaan ok you might need to reinstall java what verwion do you havr ?
#612 [03:17] <sharcaan> Lemon how do I tell
#613 [03:17] <sharcaan> xD
#614 [03:17] <lemon-rev> goto java.com
#615 [03:17] <lemon-rev> and press update and it should tell you what vers you have
#616 [03:17] <t3hkid> Verified Java Version
#617 [03:17] <t3hkid> Congratulations!
#618 [03:17] <t3hkid> You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 30).
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#620 [03:17] <lemon-rev> java.io.FileNotFoundException < see that
#621 [03:18] <lemon-rev> thats saying java cant find a file
#622 [03:18] <mib_02x2kk> do the win/reinst thing lemon
#623 [03:18] <sharcaan> Verified Java Version Congratulations! You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 30).
#624 [03:18] <lemon-rev> no that will only reinstall minecraft
#625 [03:18] <lemon-rev> bah
#626 [03:18] <lemon-rev> ok
#627 [03:18] <lemon-rev> ??> sharcaan win/javara
#628 [03:18] <VoxelHead> sharcaan: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#629 [03:18] <VoxelHead> sharcaan: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software and you can download it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/javara/files/
#630 [03:18] <mib_02x2kk> no to t3
#631 [03:18] <lemon-rev> get this program run it kill java and anything java goto java.com < reinstall it
#632 [03:18] <lemon-rev> and try mc again
#633 [03:19] <mib_02x2kk> tel t3 that win/reinst thing
#634 [03:20] <blaphmat> hello. i've been playing for about two weeks and now the loadera says that im not a premium user. how can i fix it?
#635 [03:20] <sharcaan> Lemon
#636 [03:20] <sharcaan> brb again
#637 [03:20] <sharcaan> Must close chrome
#638 [03:21] <mib_02x2kk> ??> t3hkid win/reinst
#639 [03:21] <VoxelHead> t3hkid: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#640 [03:21] <VoxelHead> t3hkid: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#641 [03:21] <mib_02x2kk> ha
#642 [03:21] <mib_02x2kk> try that t3
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#644 [03:21] <pastimerbucky> i can't upgrade my server to minecraft 1.1.0. The jar file on minecraft.net is apparently not up to date. Does anyone know how I might be able to upgrade otherwise?
#645 [03:22] <t3hkid> is skype java?
#646 [03:22] <mib_02x2kk> force up date it
#647 [03:22] <pastimerbucky> how do I do that
#648 [03:22] <mib_02x2kk> are u using the client
#649 [03:22] <pastimerbucky> no, the server
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#651 [03:22] <pastimerbucky> I had no trouble updating the client
#652 [03:22] <mib_02x2kk> so your sever is upto date
#653 [03:23] <mib_02x2kk> ?
#654 [03:23] <mib_02x2kk> mine said the same thing im trying to remeber what i did to fix it
#655 [03:24] <mib_02x2kk> o
#656 [03:24] <mib_02x2kk> in your sever file copy the world file
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#658 [03:24] <t3hkid> which one
#659 [03:24] <mib_02x2kk> thats to past
#660 [03:24] <pastimerbucky> no the server is not up to date
#661 [03:24] <mib_02x2kk> i know
#662 [03:25] <pastimerbucky> copy the world file to where
#663 [03:25] <t3hkid> Search for updates, remove older versions,additonal tasks?
#664 [03:25] <bellows> Hello, When I open up Minecraft (in both download and browser) the screen says "Updating Minecraft" and at the 95%ish green indicator bar, it will stop and not continue to load even though it says "done loading". This also happens when I choose to "Force Update" under "options"...then it will show "downloading packages" and it will not continue to load either
#665 [03:25] <mib_02x2kk> your going to have to delete the sever parsay and redownload the sever client
#666 [03:25] <pastimerbucky> I've done that several times :(
#667 [03:25] <bellows> I have a new computer with all new java updates (windows 7) and I have followed all instructions in re-downloading the updates and drivers. I have tried to delete the .minecraft folder in order to start off fresh but it still does not work. As I said, I have a brand new computer with all necessary drivers and RAM space (4gb). I have also looked on your minec
#668 [03:25] <Sharcaan> Voxel
#669 [03:25] <Sharcaan> Still around?
#670 [03:26] <mib_02x2kk> whats your computer name bellows
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#672 [03:26] <bellows> hp pavilion g6
#673 [03:26] <Sharcaan> Still not working if you're there voxel. ..<
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#675 [03:26] <mib_02x2kk> no the name u gave your profile i mean
#676 [03:26] <mib_02x2kk> no the name u gave your profile i mean
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#678 [03:27] <bellows> I have tried to delete the bin folder and the entire .minecraft folder
#679 [03:27] <bellows> I just purchased the game tonight so no worries about delting a map
#680 [03:27] <mib_02x2kk> see if u have thing like ! @#$@ ect... in your profile folder it can mess with java
#681 [03:27] <mib_02x2kk> i mean profile name
#682 [03:28] <bellows> ???
#683 [03:28] <mib_02x2kk> i mean user name
#684 [03:28] <bellows> were would i find the "profile folder"
#685 [03:28] <Sharcaan> Anyone there?
#686 [03:28] <mib_02x2kk> when turn on your computer it says login into user
#687 [03:28] <bellows> my minecraft username?
#688 [03:28] <Sharcaan> Who can takeover for lemon
#689 [03:29] <mib_02x2kk> i ment to say user name for your computer no MC your computer
#690 [03:29] <mib_02x2kk> not*
#691 [03:29] <bellows> C. Harley Ellis
#692 [03:29] <bellows> ???
#693 [03:29] <bellows> my pc name?
#694 [03:30] <bellows> sorry but i do not understand how this will fix the minecraft problem....
#695 [03:30] <mib_02x2kk> somt imes puctuations mess with java
#696 [03:30] <mib_02x2kk> sometimes*
#697 [03:30] <mib_02x2kk> srry long night bear with my typos
#698 [03:30] <bellows> 5 minutes ago i downloaded the newest version of JAVA
#699 [03:30] <mib_02x2kk> i know
#700 [03:30] <bellows> no prob.!
#701 [03:31] <mib_02x2kk> samething happened to me
#702 [03:31] <mib_02x2kk> my user name for my comp is this cat is fat!!!
#703 [03:31] <mib_02x2kk> the " !!! " messed with the code for java not alowing the game to down load correctly
#704 [03:32] <mib_02x2kk> cause it to stop at 95%
#705 [03:32] <bellows> yes!
#706 [03:32] <bellows> exactly my problem
#707 [03:32] <mib_02x2kk> yeah dont ask me how it messes with it it just does
#708 [03:32] <bellows> and it also stops at around the 5% mark when I try and update
#709 [03:33] <mib_02x2kk> so i had to use my guest uesr on my comp to play
#710 [03:33] <bellows> ok I will try...thanks for your help!
#711 [03:33] <mib_02x2kk> i mean there are sever ressons why it can be messing up
#712 [03:33] <mib_02x2kk> ok ttyl
#713 [03:34] <Sharcaan> Hmmm
#714 [03:34] <Sharcaan> I guess lemon gave up on me
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#716 [03:36] <mib_02x2kk> yeah i hope that works
#717 [03:36] <mib_02x2kk> t3 did u do the win/reinst
#718 [03:36] <mib_02x2kk> idk
#719 [03:36] <mib_02x2kk> it seems he on and off
#720 [03:36] <mib_02x2kk> o past
#721 [03:36] <mib_02x2kk> pasttimer u still there?
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#723 [03:38] <mib_02x2kk> guess not?
#724 [03:38] <mib_02x2kk> Shar what was your problem
#725 [03:38] <t3hkid> what sorry
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#727 [03:38] <mib_02x2kk> t3 did u do the win/reinst
#728 [03:39] <Sharcaan> I have a nice long error
#729 [03:39] <Sharcaan> mib
#730 [03:39] <mib_02x2kk> hes back
#731 [03:39] <mib_02x2kk> '
#732 [03:39] <t3hkid> win/reinst ??
#733 [03:39] <Sharcaan> that nothing suggested works
#734 [03:39] <Sharcaan> tried
#735 [03:39] <lemon-rev> ok Sharcaan you said it worked correct ?
#736 [03:39] <Sharcaan> No
#737 [03:39] <Sharcaan> :(
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#739 [03:39] <mib_02x2kk> ??> t3hkid win/reinst
#740 [03:39] <VoxelHead> t3hkid: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#741 [03:39] <lemon-rev> did your username become none premium
#742 [03:39] <VoxelHead> t3hkid: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#744 [03:40] <Sharcaan> Nope
#745 [03:40] <t3hkid> did that no diffrence
#746 [03:40] <mib_02x2kk> well.... i guess it wasnt ment to be my friend
#747 [03:41] <mib_02x2kk> im jk hold let me think
#748 [03:41] <mib_1fomfc> Someone said I should try to fix the frozen loading bar error by using a guest account on my computer but it did not work :(
#749 [03:41] <Sharcaan> I don't really know what's wrong...
#750 [03:41] <t3hkid> i was told to get teamvir
#751 [03:41] <t3hkid> teamviewer
#752 [03:41] <t3hkid> by wug
#753 [03:42] <t3hkid> but wug afk
#754 [03:42] <mib_1fomfc> does "teamviewer" fix the frozen loading bar in minecraft? (are you talking to me?)
#755 [03:43] <t3hkid> no wug said i need to get team viewer
#756 [03:43] <mib_1fomfc> why
#757 [03:43] <t3hkid> so he could try something
#758 [03:43] <mib_1fomfc> ok?
#759 [03:43] <Sharcaan> lemon any other ideas?
#760 [03:43] <lemon-rev> mib_1fomfc dude no but it will allow someone on your pc to try and see if they can fix it
#761 [03:43] <mib_02x2kk> mib i was saying there a bunch of resson why that could happen thats what happened to me
#762 [03:44] <mib_1fomfc> but does anyone know how to fix the frozen loading bar in minecraft (on start up)???
#763 [03:44] <t3hkid> can you guys teamviewer meeting?
#764 [03:44] <t3hkid> my computer
#765 [03:44] <lemon-rev> Sharcaan what was your trouble
#766 [03:44] <lemon-rev> your loading screen
#767 [03:44] <lemon-rev> oh
#768 [03:45] <mib_1fomfc> I have tried to delete the .minecraft folder but it still will not work
#769 [03:45] <mib_02x2kk> i think mib and shar have the same problem
#770 [03:45] <Sharcaan> http://pastebin.com/iEt0k9L4
#771 [03:45] <Sharcaan> No mib_02
#772 [03:45] <mib_1fomfc> where does the link go
#773 [03:45] <Sharcaan> I have a whole dif area
#774 [03:45] <lemon-rev> Sharcaan ModLoader.cfg (Access is denied)
#775 [03:45] <lemon-rev> bah
#776 [03:45] <lemon-rev> sharcann force update
#777 [03:45] <Sharcaan> but I don't have that folder anywere
#778 [03:45] <Sharcaan> how?
#779 [03:46] <lemon-rev> and take all the mod cap away
#780 [03:46] <mib_02x2kk> yeah i was abt to say dump the mods
#781 [03:46] <Sharcaan> Not sure how lemon
#782 [03:46] <lemon-rev> %appdata%/.minecraft/bin
#783 [03:46] <Sharcaan> I don't have a .mincraft
#784 [03:46] <mib_1fomfc> ya if you delete all that it still wont unfreeze the bar
#785 [03:46] <lemon-rev> then its not properly loaded on your system then
#786 [03:46] <t3hkid> Any of you have teamviewer?
#787 [03:47] <mib_1fomfc> what is teamviewer???
#788 [03:47] <lemon-rev> Sharcaan what happens if you play online
#789 [03:47] <Sharcaan> Doesn't work
#790 [03:47] <Sharcaan> Stuck at done loading 95%
#791 [03:47] <lemon-rev> what you see
#792 [03:47] <mib_1fomfc> Sharcaan it does the same for me!
#793 [03:47] <Sharcaan> ^
#794 [03:47] <mib_02x2kk> teamviewer lets me take control of your mose and keyboard from here
#795 [03:48] <Sharcaan> Me mib_02?
#796 [03:48] <mib_1fomfc> yes
#797 [03:48] <mib_1fomfc> no]
#798 [03:48] <mib_1fomfc> bah!
#799 [03:48] <Sharcaan> ....
#800 [03:48] <lemon-rev> thing is that you cant be stuck on any number if you dont have the files
#801 [03:48] <lemon-rev> Sharcaan can you do a search on your my documents folder please for minecraft.exe
#802 [03:48] <Sharcaan> But when I do %appdata%
#803 [03:48] <lemon-rev> iknow it doesnt show up
#804 [03:48] <Sharcaan> I don't see a .mc
#805 [03:49] <Sharcaan> ok
#806 [03:49] <mib_1fomfc> sharcaan once you search %appdata% go to roaming and then .minecraft
#807 [03:49] <Sharcaan> Nothing lemon
#808 [03:49] <lemon-rev> hm
#809 [03:49] <Sharcaan> and ok mid_1
#810 [03:49] <lemon-rev> C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\Application Data\.minecraft
#811 [03:49] <Sharcaan> mib_1*
#812 [03:49] <mib_1fomfc> lol no prob
#813 [03:50] <mib_1fomfc> call me 1
#814 [03:50] <Sharcaan> No .minecraft though in appdata
#815 [03:50] <mib_1fomfc> are you mac or pc sharcaan?
#816 [03:50] <Sharcaan> idk why
#817 [03:50] <Sharcaan> pc
#818 [03:50] <lemon-rev> Sharcaan dont look for .minecraft look for minecraft.exe
#819 [03:50] <mib_1fomfc> ok press the windows button
#820 [03:50] <lemon-rev> please
#821 [03:51] <lemon-rev> or minecraft.jar
#822 [03:51] <mib_1fomfc> and search %app data% then click the roaming foldr
#823 [03:51] <Sharcaan> Lemon I couldn't find those
#824 [03:51] <Sharcaan> 1 there is no roaming folder
#825 [03:51] <Sharcaan> in app data
#826 [03:51] <mib_1fomfc> aww
#827 [03:51] <mib_1fomfc> %appdata% no space
#828 [03:51] <lemon-rev> ok if you goto that directory that i pointed you to before the doc / hp admin / application can you got there
#829 [03:51] <Sharcaan> I know
#830 [03:51] <Sharcaan> xD
#831 [03:51] <mib_1fomfc> lol
#832 [03:52] <Sharcaan> 5 folders
#833 [03:52] <lemon-rev> what are they
#834 [03:52] <Sharcaan> in appdata
#835 [03:52] <lemon-rev> yes
#836 [03:52] <Sharcaan> idetities
#837 [03:52] <Sharcaan> Microsoft
#838 [03:52] <Sharcaan> Reak
#839 [03:52] <Sharcaan> tuit
#840 [03:52] <lemon-rev> give vox a sec
#841 [03:52] <lemon-rev> ok
#842 [03:52] <lemon-rev> one more
#843 [03:53] <mib_1fomfc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgK0BIsrmcE&feature=related
#844 [03:53] <Sharcaan> ok intuit, real, microsoft symantec, and identites
#845 [03:53] <mib_02x2kk> load noies
#846 [03:53] <mib_1fomfc> try this link
#847 [03:53] <mib_1fomfc> it might work for you! not me though
#848 [03:53] <mib_1fomfc> hope it helps
#849 [03:54] <Sharcaan> microsoft and symantec are two diff folders of course
#850 [03:54] <lemon-rev> yup
#851 [03:54] <mib_1fomfc> oh
#852 [03:54] <mib_02x2kk> ok well who now how to add mods to a sever
#853 [03:54] <lemon-rev> Sharcaan have you a cracked version ?
#854 [03:55] <mib_02x2kk> .... busted
#855 [03:55] <mib_02x2kk> knows*
#856 [03:55] <Sharcaan> Nope
#857 [03:55] <lemon-rev> where di you get the launcher file ?
#858 [03:55] <t3hkid> any op have teamviewer? to help fix the problem
#859 [03:55] <Sharcaan> I got it legit from the website
#860 [03:55] <mib_1fomfc> I just bought mine like 4 hours ago :\
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#862 [03:56] <lemon-rev> Sharcaan when was the last time you got the file ?
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#864 [03:56] <mib_02x2kk> do u have another comp
#865 [03:56] <mib_02x2kk> #1
#866 [03:57] <mib_1fomfc> yes i am tryiong it on my moms
#867 [03:57] <Sharcaan> What file
#868 [03:57] <mib_1fomfc> trying*
#869 [03:57] <lemon-rev> Sharcaan from minecraft.net < get the client again
#870 [03:58] <Sharcaan> ok
#871 [03:58] <Sharcaan> Lemon
#872 [03:59] <Sharcaan> I think I got it
#873 [03:59] <lemon-rev> yes ?
#874 [03:59] <Sharcaan> I feel stupid
#875 [03:59] <Sharcaan> all the folders were hidden for some reason
#876 [03:59] <Sharcaan> how do I unhide folders
#877 [03:59] <lemon-rev> hm, sounds like it but i wasnt totally sure
#878 [03:59] <lemon-rev> hm, when your in your folders you should beable to see tools menu
#879 [03:59] <lemon-rev> clcik on that,
#880 [04:00] <lemon-rev> goto options
#881 [04:00] <Sharcaan> I can see the hidden folders now
#882 [04:00] <Sharcaan> But I can't "unhide" them
#883 [04:00] <mib_1fomfc> oh ya!
#884 [04:00] <lemon-rev> Sharcaan are you folling ?
#885 [04:00] <Sharcaan> Folling?
#886 [04:00] <Sharcaan> Whats that?
#887 [04:00] <lemon-rev> yes
#888 [04:00] <Sharcaan> xD
#889 [04:00] <lemon-rev> tools/ options
#890 [04:00] <Sharcaan> Yes
#891 [04:01] <lemon-rev> bah,
#892 [04:01] <lemon-rev> ok, goto my computer
#893 [04:01] <Sharcaan> K
#894 [04:01] <lemon-rev> now
#895 [04:01] <lemon-rev> goto tools/ folder options
#896 [04:01] <Sharcaan> mmmk
#897 [04:02] <lemon-rev> click on tab view
#898 [04:02] <lemon-rev> if you see it ?
#899 [04:02] <Sharcaan> Yes
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#901 [04:02] <lemon-rev> there should be serveral things listed there
#902 [04:02] <Sharcaan> Indeed
#903 [04:02] <mvp> i cant get minecraft to run on my pc i need help please
#904 [04:02] <lemon-rev> there should be a round circle saying do not show hidden files
#905 [04:02] <Sharcaan> Yes
#906 [04:02] <lemon-rev> is that marked ?
#907 [04:03] <Sharcaan> Nope
#908 [04:03] <Sharcaan> I unmarked it
#909 [04:03] <lemon-rev> hm
#910 [04:03] <lemon-rev> good
#911 [04:03] <lemon-rev> now
#912 [04:03] <Sharcaan> But all the files are still grayed out
#913 [04:03] <Sharcaan> ish
#914 [04:03] <lemon-rev> theres a box saying hide extention file types
#915 [04:03] <Sharcaan> ok
#916 [04:03] <lemon-rev> make sure thats unticked
#917 [04:03] <Sharcaan> Done
#918 [04:03] <lemon-rev> ok press ok button, and see what happens now
#919 [04:04] <Sharcaan> Still grayed out "ish"
#920 [04:04] <mvp> can someone help me figure out why minecraft wont run on my pc
#921 [04:04] <lemon-rev> whats exactly grayed out ?
#922 [04:04] <lemon-rev> mvp was it running before
#923 [04:04] <mib_1fomfc> mvo is it the loading bar freeze?
#924 [04:04] <mvp> no it wont load at all
#925 [04:04] <mib_1fomfc> mvp*
#926 [04:04] <Sharcaan> All the files that were previously "hidden"
#927 [04:05] <mib_1fomfc> ok go online and look up java
#928 [04:05] <mib_1fomfc> download the latest version
#929 [04:05] <mvp> i download the latest version of java still not working
#930 [04:05] <lemon-rev> Sharcaan so can you see the hidden files now ?
#931 [04:05] <Sharcaan> Yes
#932 [04:05] <mib_1fomfc> are you windows?
#933 [04:05] <mvp> ya windows 7 64 bit
#934 [04:05] <mib_1fomfc> 2000,xp,vista, 7?
#935 [04:05] <mib_1fomfc> ok
#936 [04:05] <lemon-rev> mvp can you goto minecraft.net and login click in broswer
#937 [04:06] <lemon-rev> Sharcaan ok, so can you delete the bin folder and restart minecraft
#938 [04:06] <mvp> ok
#939 [04:06] <Sharcaan> Yes just did it :)
#940 [04:06] <Sharcaan> Checking to see if I can run it now
#941 [04:06] <mib_1fomfc> *fingers crossed*?
#942 [04:06] <mvp> its says pixel format not accelerated
#943 [04:07] <lemon-rev> ??> mvp win/dxdiag
#944 [04:07] <VoxelHead> mvp: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#945 [04:07] <VoxelHead> mvp: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#946 [04:07] <mib_1fomfc> oh, then look on there forum for that
#947 [04:07] <t3hkid> need to wait for wug :(
#948 [04:07] <Sharcaan> BAHhhh
#949 [04:07] <mib_1fomfc> aww
#950 [04:07] <Sharcaan> Still same error as before
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#952 [04:07] <mib_1fomfc> does it still freeze?
#953 [04:07] <lemon-rev> hm
#954 [04:07] <lemon-rev> Sharcaan so it just stops ?
#955 [04:08] <mib_1fomfc> did you try going to "options" and force download
#956 [04:08] <mib_1fomfc> ???
#957 [04:08] <lemon-rev> Sharcaan search for mod < and delete the files
#958 [04:08] <lemon-rev> in minecraft folder only
#959 [04:08] <Sharcaan> Yeah right after the mojang
#960 [04:08] <lemon-rev> black or white screen ?
#961 [04:08] <Sharcaan> ok
#962 [04:08] <Sharcaan> black then error
#963 [04:08] <mib_1fomfc> lemon it just stops for me...when I update it will load like 5%....when I do it reg. It will say "finished download" and wont continue
#964 [04:09] <lemon-rev> hm
#965 [04:09] <lemon-rev> mib_1fomfc does that happen on the web broswer as well ?
#966 [04:09] <mib_1fomfc> yes
#967 [04:09] <mib_1fomfc> and i have tried to delete the .minecraft folder
#968 [04:09] <mib_1fomfc> :(
#969 [04:09] <lemon-rev> mib_1fomfc and what happend ?
#970 [04:10] <mib_1fomfc> nothing!
#971 [04:10] <lemon-rev> hm
#972 [04:10] <lemon-rev> mib_1fomfc sorry to hear dude, what i sugest is reboot then delete it and reinstall and test
#973 [04:10] <mib_1fomfc> I even restarted the comp. and erased all minecraft stuff.
#974 [04:10] <lemon-rev> hm
#975 [04:10] <lemon-rev> so hm,
#976 [04:10] <mib_1fomfc> yup
#977 [04:10] <lemon-rev> what file or where does it stop ?
#978 [04:11] <mib_1fomfc> when I do the update, it will say........
#979 [04:11] <mib_1fomfc> downloading packages
#980 [04:11] <mib_1fomfc> and it stops
#981 [04:11] <lemon-rev> and you see the green bar
#982 [04:11] <mib_1fomfc> yes
#983 [04:11] <mib_1fomfc> it stops at like 5%
#984 [04:12] <lemon-rev> but it should show you a file, oh, btw try make sure your firewall / anitvirus is turned off
#985 [04:12] <lemon-rev> just while your updateing
#986 [04:12] <mib_1fomfc> ok just one seconf
#987 [04:12] <mib_1fomfc> second*
#988 [04:12] <mvp> http://pastebin.com/uPrmSXpp
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#990 [04:13] <mvp> does that help?
#991 [04:13] <lemon-rev> i need more of the dxdiag dude, need your info on your graphic driver and what year it is
#992 [04:14] <mvp> http://pastebin.com/JP66HqZq
#993 [04:14] <mib_1fomfc> it still does not work when the firewall is turned off
#994 [04:15] <lemon-rev> what about your antivirus as well ?
#995 [04:15] <mib_1fomfc> :'(
#996 [04:15] <mib_1fomfc> still nothing
#997 [04:15] <mib_1fomfc> i did both
#998 [04:15] <mvp> is that what you need?
#999 [04:15] <mib_1fomfc> IT IS WORKING ON A SEPARATE COMPUTER!!!!!!!!!
#1000 [04:16] <t3hkid> :( i hate this new update
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#1002 [04:16] <mib_1fomfc> so bai bai!
#1003 [04:16] <lemon-rev> http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/38916 < mvp
#1004 [04:16] <t3hkid> Do you ops have teamviewer?
#1005 [04:17] <t3hkid> to help me?
#1006 [04:17] <mvp> what do i do with that ?
#1007 [04:17] <lemon-rev> t3hkid i could but im trying to help this guy dude
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#1009 [04:17] <lemon-rev> teamview is basicly an admin tool
#1010 [04:17] <Wug> :driver
#1011 [04:17] <Wug> ;search driver
#1012 [04:17] <WugBot> Matches for "driver": amd/beta c660 driver/naming driver/win7/x64/intel/4series win/hosts
#1013 [04:17] <t3hkid> hi wug
#1014 [04:17] <Wug> :driver/naming
#1015 [04:17] <WugBot> driver/naming: If you're going to add factoids to wugbot with driver downloads, please use the following naming convention:
#1016 [04:17] <WugBot> driver/naming: driver/<operating system>/<x64 or x86 for 64 bit or 32 bit>/<device vendor>/<chipset name>
#1017 [04:19] <DataSearcher> GreyVulpine?
#1018 [04:19] <Wug> :driver/win7/x64/intel/4series
#1019 [04:19] <WugBot> driver/win7/x64/intel/4series: Download and install this driver for Windows 7 or Windows Vista, 64 bit editions, with "Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family" GPUs:
#1020 [04:19] <WugBot> driver/win7/x64/intel/4series: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20601
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#1022 [04:21] <Wug> ;+ driver/win7/x64/nvidia/* Download and install this driver for Desktops with Windows 7 or Windows Vista, 64 bit editions, with GeForce Series 6, 7, 8, 9, 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, or ION GPUs:;;http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/38916
#1023 [04:21] <WugBot> Done.
#1024 [04:21] <t3hkid> ill try install minecraft again
#1025 [04:21] <Wug> t3hkid: hold on and I'll help you in a few minutes
#1026 [04:21] <Wug> I have to submit some files to my grader
#1027 [04:22] <t3hkid> i know but can i try install it again?
#1028 [04:22] <mvp> that worked thanks alot for the help man!!
#1029 [04:22] <Wug> t3hkid: you can try but I doubt it will help
#1030 [04:22] <Wug> you might need a special solution
#1031 [04:22] <mvp> thanks lemon rev
#1032 [04:24] <DataSearcher> Wug?
#1033 [04:24] <DataSearcher> Why did you make a bot?
#1034 [04:25] <DataSearcher> Wug?
#1035 [04:26] <t3hkid> Probs so people who help other people wont need to take time writing out the default things
#1036 [04:31] <Wug> DataSearcher: a large number of reasons
#1037 [04:31] <lemon-rev> np
#1038 [04:31] <Wug> thats one reason
#1039 [04:31] <Wug> it does a few other things too
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#1041 [04:39] <DataSearcher> So it's a mere expert system?
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#1044 [04:41] <quaddle> i cant installe java 64 bits on my computer
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#1047 [04:50] <SinZ> DataSearcher: its also fun making bots
#1048 [04:53] <DataSearcher> ?
#1049 [04:53] <DataSearcher> SinZ?
#1050 [04:53] <DataSearcher> What is fun about making a bot tell me?
#1051 [04:54] <SinZ> coding is fun <3
#1052 [04:54] <DataSearcher> That you have to mundanely program every aspect and after a while programming becomes repeative as it begins to follow the same iterative patterns ?
#1053 [04:54] <DataSearcher> Again and Again?
#1054 [04:55] <DataSearcher> The likely probability you come to the same solutions is extremely high every time.
#1055 [04:55] <DataSearcher> Programming is entertaining if you are trying to solve something that makes you *actually think*
#1056 [04:55] <DataSearcher> You *become soo good at programming* it becomes second nature?
#1057 [04:55] <DataSearcher> Then what?
#1058 [04:55] <DataSearcher> You have no more challenges.
#1059 [04:56] <DataSearcher> So you need to move onto programming more and more interesting things and not the same problems again and again.
#1060 [04:56] <DataSearcher> Why make a bot when there are hundreds of bots already out there?
#1061 [04:56] <DataSearcher> Seems like a redundant waste of time?
#1062 [04:56] <DataSearcher> Program bot --> Time --> Effort --> Data --> Re-inventing the wheel -->
#1063 [04:57] <DataSearcher> --> Why do it?
#1064 [04:57] <DataSearcher> The same statement comes in why mine metals?
#1065 [04:57] <DataSearcher> Why not recycle them repeatedly and they would never end?
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#1067 [04:58] <Wug> I find it amusing that someone called DataSearcher is so against searching for data
#1068 [04:59] <SinZ> ^
#1069 [05:00] <t3hkid> Mirc
#1070 [05:01] <t3hkid> is a bot software easy to use
#1071 [05:03] <t3hkid> humm
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#1075 [05:06] <t3hkid> humm how can i turn norton off?
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#1077 [05:21] <t3hkid> so bored
#1078 [05:24] <b0xxy> lol @ DataSearcher
#1079 [05:24] <b0xxy> what a tool
#1080 [05:24] <DataSearcher> Please don't incite a logic arguement with me
#1081 [05:24] <DataSearcher> You will lose.
#1082 [05:25] <b0xxy> you sir
#1083 [05:25] <b0xxy> are a loser
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#1085 [05:27] <DataSearcher> Not even close.
#1086 [05:27] <DataSearcher> Not even close.
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#1088 [05:27] <DataSearcher> Although
#1089 [05:27] * DataSearcher mocks himself
#1089 [05:28] <DataSearcher> I don't lose things sometimes
#1090 [05:28] <b0xxy> http://rolandog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Forever_Alone_kindleDX.png = you
#1091 [05:28] <DataSearcher> I do*
#1092 [05:28] <DataSearcher> I lose keys, my glasses
#1093 [05:28] <DataSearcher> what not.
#1094 [05:28] <b0xxy> anyway, you are not worth my time
#1095 [05:28] <b0xxy> bye
#1096 [05:28] <DataSearcher> Have a pleasant day b0xxy
#1097 [05:29] <t3hkid> lol
#1098 [05:30] <DataSearcher> It is good to show you're the better being to show the deepest respect for him.
#1099 [05:31] <DataSearcher> GreyVulpine by the way you idea for adding a firewall rule worked thank you
#1100 [05:31] <DataSearcher> I strangely thought it it wouldn't be that simple.
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#1103 [05:35] <DataSearcher> Hello t3hkid we haven't been properly introduced
#1104 [05:35] <DataSearcher> I am DataSearcher.
#1105 [05:35] * DataSearcher Shakes t3hkids hand
#1105 [05:35] <t3hkid> Hello I am t3hkid
#1106 [05:35] <DataSearcher> How old are you?
#1107 [05:35] <t3hkid> 13
#1108 [05:35] <DataSearcher> ah indeed beginning of teenage years.
#1109 [05:36] <DataSearcher> I'm 17.
#1110 [05:36] <DataSearcher> Are you having any specific problem with minecraft?
#1111 [05:37] <DataSearcher> Bah....
#1112 [05:37] <DataSearcher> Bukkit Dev is crashing repeatedly
#1113 [05:37] <t3hkid> oh Sorry
#1114 [05:37] <t3hkid> Yea I am
#1115 [05:37] <DataSearcher> Can I attempt to assist you ?
#1116 [05:38] <DataSearcher> What seems to be the problem?
#1117 [05:38] <t3hkid> Do You want me to give you the link?
#1118 [05:38] <DataSearcher> What is the link?
#1119 [05:38] <DataSearcher> What is it about?
#1120 [05:38] <DataSearcher> What country is it from?
#1121 [05:38] <t3hkid> its my problem
#1122 [05:38] <DataSearcher> Sorry about all the questions
#1123 [05:38] <DataSearcher> ok
#1124 [05:38] <DataSearcher> I'll use WOT to check it
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#1126 [05:39] <t3hkid> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/941397-update-issue-11-windows-minecraft/
#1127 [05:40] <DataSearcher> Hmmmmm.
#1128 [05:40] <DataSearcher> What executable are you using?
#1129 [05:40] <DataSearcher> Is it one you had prior to 1.1
#1130 [05:40] <DataSearcher> or after?
#1131 [05:40] <t3hkid> before
#1132 [05:40] <DataSearcher> Ok
#1133 [05:41] <DataSearcher> This is going to sound wierd
#1134 [05:41] <t3hkid> i got the errtor when trying to get update 1.1
#1135 [05:41] <DataSearcher> you do know how to nuke your .minecraft folder?
#1136 [05:41] <DataSearcher> Also are you on windows 7 or XP?
#1137 [05:41] <DataSearcher> Or Vista?
#1138 [05:41] <t3hkid> Windows 7
#1139 [05:41] <DataSearcher> You know where the .minecraft folder is?
#1140 [05:42] <t3hkid> appdata roaming
#1141 [05:42] <DataSearcher> Ok
#1142 [05:42] <DataSearcher> Delete that.
#1143 [05:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> make a backup of ur saves
#1144 [05:42] <DataSearcher> The minecraft folder
#1145 [05:42] <DataSearcher> only
#1146 [05:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> before u delete it
#1147 [05:42] <DataSearcher> yes
#1148 [05:42] <DataSearcher> Make a backup
#1149 [05:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> just of the saves folder
#1150 [05:42] <t3hkid> well its got nothing really in
#1151 [05:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> no need of anytrhin else
#1152 [05:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> well if u got no worlds then ok delete it all
#1153 [05:42] <DataSearcher> Yeah just delete the entire folder
#1154 [05:42] <t3hkid> Done
#1155 [05:42] <DataSearcher> .minecraft ONLY
#1156 [05:42] <DataSearcher> Ok
#1157 [05:42] <DataSearcher> Goto minecraft.net
#1158 [05:43] <DataSearcher> and download a new exe.
#1159 [05:43] <DataSearcher> Do not
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#1161 [05:43] <DataSearcher> take the exe out of you downloads folder
#1162 [05:43] <DataSearcher> before deleting the one you had prior to 1.1
#1163 [05:43] <DataSearcher> Delete the OLD exe
#1164 [05:43] <t3hkid> ok
#1165 [05:43] <DataSearcher> Download the new one
#1166 [05:43] <DataSearcher> Reboot your PC
#1167 [05:43] <DataSearcher> then run the new exe
#1168 [05:44] <t3hkid> ok brb
#1169 [05:45] <DataSearcher> I am only testing this WhereIsMySpoon
#1170 [05:45] <DataSearcher> because I've experienced the same problem
#1171 [05:45] <DataSearcher> with old exe's
#1172 [05:45] <DataSearcher> Downloading a new exe
#1173 [05:45] <DataSearcher> and flushing the memory
#1174 [05:45] <DataSearcher> by rebooting worked for me.
#1175 [05:45] <DataSearcher> Notch does update the executable
#1176 [05:46] <DataSearcher> or sometimes the exe becomes corrupted
#1177 [05:46] <DataSearcher> I am only assuming lets hope
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#1179 [05:46] <DataSearcher> Ok
#1180 [05:46] <DataSearcher> Now use the new exe
#1181 [05:47] <DataSearcher> Are you the admin of your PC?
#1182 [05:47] <t3hkid> ok login in and force update
#1183 [05:47] <t3hkid> yea
#1184 [05:47] <DataSearcher> No don't force
#1185 [05:47] <DataSearcher> just let it update
#1186 [05:47] <DataSearcher> Login
#1187 [05:47] <DataSearcher> And let it try updating
#1188 [05:48] <DataSearcher> t3hkid downloading?
#1189 [05:48] <t3hkid> yea
#1190 [05:48] <DataSearcher> What percentage?
#1191 [05:48] <t3hkid> Done same again
#1192 [05:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> jeez, fill up the screen why dont u :P
#1193 [05:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> try to put more than 3 words on a line ^^
#1194 [05:49] <DataSearcher> Hmmmmm so it froze?
#1195 [05:49] <t3hkid> Yea
#1196 [05:49] <t3hkid> Near The end
#1197 [05:49] <DataSearcher> Sorry WhereIsMySpoon it becomes a habit when you play minecraft, you know the small amount of chatbox?
#1198 [05:50] <DataSearcher> Have you tried something called Run AS?
#1199 [05:50] <t3hkid> Nope
#1200 [05:50] <DataSearcher> Left click over the minecraft executable
#1201 [05:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> you can type off the end of the screen in mc btw
#1202 [05:50] <DataSearcher> See a little tab that says *Run as.....*
#1203 [05:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> have you tried updating ur grapghics drivers and/or java t3?
#1204 [05:51] <DataSearcher> Click that if promoted for a password type it if not don't
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#1206 [05:51] <DataSearcher> and just *say run as administrator*
#1207 [05:51] <Tewdric> Hi
#1208 [05:51] <Tewdric> does anyone know the spawning conditions for mushrooms ?
#1209 [05:52] <DataSearcher> Warts or Mushrooms?
#1210 [05:52] <t3hkid> Ahhhhhh :(
#1211 [05:52] <DataSearcher> didn't work t3hkid?
#1212 [05:52] <t3hkid> Same again
#1213 [05:52] <DataSearcher> Ok
#1214 [05:52] <DataSearcher> Goto cmd
#1215 [05:53] <DataSearcher> Under accessorys
#1216 [05:53] <t3hkid> Done
#1217 [05:53] <DataSearcher> Then in the console type java -version
#1218 [05:53] <DataSearcher> Tell me the information
#1219 [05:53] <Tewdric> mushrooms
#1220 [05:53] <Tewdric> i know how to grow netherwarts
#1221 [05:53] <t3hkid> java version "1.6.0_30"
#1222 [05:53] <t3hkid> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_30-b12)
#1223 [05:53] <t3hkid> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 20.5-b03, mixed mode, sharing)
#1224 [05:53] <DataSearcher> It should reply with runtime version etc
#1225 [05:54] <DataSearcher> ok
#1226 [05:54] * DataSearcher thinks
#1226 [05:54] <DataSearcher> Goto
#1227 [05:54] <DataSearcher> Add/Remove programs
#1228 [05:54] <DataSearcher> how many versions of Java is there?
#1229 [05:54] * GreyVulpine coughs, "AV"
#1229 [05:55] <t3hkid> Just one
#1230 [05:55] <DataSearcher> GreyVulpine says AV
#1231 [05:55] <DataSearcher> oke
#1232 [05:55] <DataSearcher> What AV do you have?
#1233 [05:55] <DataSearcher> Antivirus?
#1234 [05:55] <DataSearcher> t3hkid?
#1235 [05:56] <t3hkid> Norton and Bullguard
#1236 [05:56] <DataSearcher> O.O
#1237 [05:56] <DataSearcher> 2
#1238 [05:56] <DataSearcher> AV's
#1239 [05:56] <GreyVulpine> Bullguard will do this
#1240 [05:56] * DataSearcher checks something
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#1241 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> Disable bullguard, and you'll be able to download minecraft again
#1242 [05:58] <GreyVulpine> Bullguard's been known, as of recently, to quarantine minecraft.jar due to a false positive
#1243 [05:58] <t3hkid> how to disable bullguard
#1244 [05:58] <DataSearcher> Goto add/remove programs
#1245 [05:58] <GreyVulpine> Absolutely no idea
#1246 [05:58] <Tewdric> looking for some help on how to get mushrooms to spread
#1247 [05:58] <DataSearcher> Left click
#1248 [05:58] <DataSearcher> Uninstall it
#1249 [05:58] <DataSearcher> You DO not have 2 real time AV's running on the same PC
#1250 [05:58] <DataSearcher> They will generally conflict
#1251 [05:59] <DataSearcher> Keep Norton
#1252 [05:59] <DataSearcher> I just checked it has a better review than bullguard
#1253 [05:59] <DataSearcher> t3hkid it uninstalling?
#1254 [05:59] <t3hkid> yea
#1255 [06:00] <DataSearcher> k
#1256 [06:00] <DataSearcher> Once it's done try running minecraft
#1257 [06:00] <DataSearcher> after a reboot
#1258 [06:00] <DataSearcher> When the uninstallation completes and only then
#1259 [06:00] <GreyVulpine> (and a force update/.minecraft delete)
#1260 [06:00] <t3hkid> WOOP WOOP /me HUGS ALL
#1261 [06:00] * DataSearcher no problem
#1261 [06:00] * t3hkid Hugs All Who Helped
#1261 [06:00] <DataSearcher> Enjoy your minecraft
#1262 [06:01] <t3hkid> TY very much
#1263 [06:01] <DataSearcher> No problem just as future reference
#1264 [06:01] <DataSearcher> if you want a good antivirus it's a matter of personal preference but I've had good success with both Kaspersky And ESET
#1265 [06:02] <t3hkid> ok ty for the advice
#1266 [06:02] <DataSearcher> Also don't run 2 AV's
#1267 [06:02] * GreyVulpine can vouch for ESET, has used it for over a decade
#1267 [06:02] <DataSearcher> You may think it's protecting you better it's actually not. 2 *realtime antiviruses meaning in laymans terms* it means when you are on the computer the antivirus is repeatedly scanning files
#1268 [06:03] <Tewdric> @Datasearcher Mushrooms not warts
#1269 [06:04] <DataSearcher> Tewdric
#1270 [06:04] <DataSearcher> For your convience
#1271 [06:04] <DataSearcher> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mushrooms
#1272 [06:04] <DataSearcher> All the information you need to know about mushrooms
#1273 [06:04] <DataSearcher> GreyVupline I use Kaspersky
#1274 [06:05] <DataSearcher> GreyVulpine I use Kaspersky
#1275 [06:05] <DataSearcher> I've been wondering about ESET
#1276 [06:05] <DataSearcher> How well does it perform?
#1277 [06:06] <Tewdric> thanks
#1278 [06:06] <DataSearcher> np
#1279 [06:06] <DataSearcher> Hey Wug?
#1280 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Pretty good. I actually like it better than Kaspersky.
#1281 [06:06] <DataSearcher> You there?
#1282 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Has a smaller memory footprint
#1283 [06:06] <DataSearcher> Ah fair enough
#1284 [06:06] <DataSearcher> I heard WebRoot
#1285 [06:06] <DataSearcher> Was good but I tried it
#1286 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Have not heard anything about Webroot.
#1287 [06:07] <DataSearcher> and It kind of felt too *unthrough*
#1288 [06:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> i use eset too
#1289 [06:07] <lukegb> I've heard of ESET
#1290 [06:07] <DataSearcher> It scanned only 12,000 files or son
#1291 [06:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> its pretty good
#1292 [06:07] <DataSearcher> so*
#1293 [06:08] <DataSearcher> I use Malwarebytes/Kaspersky Virus removal tool as a backup scanner
#1294 [06:08] <DataSearcher> And Spybot
#1295 [06:08] * GreyVulpine uses spybot/malwarebytes/hitman pro as backup
#1295 [06:09] <DataSearcher> I wonder when the minecraft Ather is coming to come in
#1296 [06:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> spybot is also good
#1297 [06:13] <DataSearcher> Hey if anyone is interested
#1298 [06:13] <DataSearcher> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Upcoming_features
#1299 [06:13] <SinZ> ather?
#1300 [06:14] <DataSearcher> Yeah sky dimension
#1301 [06:14] <DataSearcher> While initially replaced by The End, Notch has expressed interest in adding a new Sky Dimension to replace the original idea.[1]
#1302 [06:14] <t3hkid> is craftbukkit-1.0.1-R1.jar 1.1
#1303 [06:15] <DataSearcher> No
#1304 [06:15] <DataSearcher> CraftBukkit is running on an experimental build
#1305 [06:15] <DataSearcher> currently
#1306 [06:15] <DataSearcher> V1.1 CraftBukkit (Dev)
#1307 [06:15] <SinZ> DataSearcher Sky Dimension != Aether
#1308 [06:16] <DataSearcher> ?
#1309 [06:16] <DataSearcher> Really?
#1310 [06:17] <t3hkid> Ill Get it up so you guys can play
#1311 [06:19] <DataSearcher> haha
#1312 [06:19] <DataSearcher> Creepers mod
#1313 [06:19] <DataSearcher> Friendly Creeper,MiniCreeper
#1314 [06:20] <DataSearcher> Angry Creeper xD
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#1316 [06:20] <DataSearcher> And stupid Creepr xD
#1317 [06:20] <DataSearcher> Creeper*
#1318 [06:20] <DataSearcher> t3hkid?
#1319 [06:20] <DataSearcher> Do you have ADSL?
#1320 [06:20] <DataSearcher> or Cable internet?
#1321 [06:21] <DataSearcher> www.speedtest.net please
#1322 [06:21] <t3hkid> I got it all portforwarded
#1323 [06:21] <DataSearcher> http://www.speedtest.net
#1324 [06:21] <DataSearcher> Please follow that
#1325 [06:21] <DataSearcher> and report your information
#1326 [06:22] <t3hkid> ok?
#1327 [06:22] <DataSearcher> Yes please
#1328 [06:22] <DataSearcher> Copy and paste the address
#1329 [06:22] <DataSearcher> after you have tested your connection
#1330 [06:23] <t3hkid> http://www.speedtest.net/results.php?ria=61630162
#1331 [06:24] <DataSearcher> Just tell me what values you got
#1332 [06:24] <DataSearcher> In Mb's
#1333 [06:24] <t3hkid> Download and upload?
#1334 [06:24] <DataSearcher> Both
#1335 [06:25] <t3hkid> Download 15.22 mb/s upload 0.69 mb/s
#1336 [06:25] <DataSearcher> Your server will support a maximum of 6 - 8 people
#1337 [06:25] <t3hkid> ok you want to join?
#1338 [06:26] <DataSearcher> Yeah sure
#1339 [06:26] <t3hkid> Just wait need to update no-ip
#1340 [06:26] <DataSearcher> ok
#1341 [06:27] <DataSearcher> Updating firefox brb
#1342 [06:27] <t3hkid> oh done
#1343 [06:27] <t3hkid> :D
#1344 [06:27] <t3hkid> t3hkid.zapto.org
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#1346 [06:32] <Sigd> Hi just created my first minecraft account, paid for premium. as well (payment gone through). I'm launching Minecraft.exe but keep getting "Can't connect to minecraft.net". Help would be great.
#1347 [06:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> sigd can you connect to www.minecraft.net
#1348 [06:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> and try to log in
#1349 [06:33] <Sigd> In IE, yes logged as well.
#1350 [06:33] <Wug> ^ with a browser
#1351 [06:33] <Wug> its probably a firewall issue
#1352 [06:34] <Wug> try disabling your firewall
#1353 [06:34] <Sigd> Um,
#1354 [06:34] <Sigd> Windows Firewall I think
#1355 [06:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> ye if u havent got any other software
#1356 [06:34] <Sigd> No I use windows firewall on this laptop. Are there know issues with this?
#1357 [06:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> not especially other than the usual windows problems
#1358 [06:35] <Sigd> Windows 7 32 bit
#1359 [06:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> just disable it a min
#1360 [06:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> and try to log into minecraft
#1361 [06:35] <DataSearcher> Sigd
#1362 [06:35] <Sigd> 1 minute...
#1363 [06:35] <DataSearcher> Ask your mum/dad or whatever to get an AV
#1364 [06:36] <DataSearcher> ESET or Kaspersky are my recommendations
#1365 [06:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> dont get avg
#1366 [06:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> or norton
#1367 [06:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> they both suck
#1368 [06:36] <Sigd> Windows nfirewall off, but no luck
#1369 [06:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> odd
#1370 [06:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> how many times did u try sigd
#1371 [06:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> to log into mc
#1372 [06:37] <Sigd> Also says play offline , not downloaded as well afterwards
#1373 [06:37] <Sigd> trying again
#1374 [06:38] <Sigd> Nope
#1375 [06:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> sometimes it just takes a few tries
#1376 [06:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> cause mc's network code sucks balls
#1377 [06:38] <Sigd> My AV is AVG
#1378 [06:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> eww
#1379 [06:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> anyhoo, maybe avg is also blocking it
#1380 [06:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> can you make an exception for minecraft?
#1381 [06:39] <Wug> GreyVulpine: whats that thing about avgs linkscanner
#1382 [06:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> in avg
#1383 [06:39] <Wug> ;search linkscanner
#1384 [06:39] <WugBot> Matches for "linkscanner": No results
#1385 [06:39] <Wug> ;search avg
#1386 [06:39] <WugBot> Matches for "avg": No results
#1387 [06:39] <Scott> Yes, the link scanner is the issue.
#1388 [06:39] <Wug> ?? win/avg
#1389 [06:40] <Scott> Microsoft Security Essentials is free and decent if you're looking for something else, Sigd.
#1390 [06:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://minecraftirc.net/thread-35.html
#1391 [06:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> avg is a horrible av imo
#1392 [06:41] <Sigd> I've used AVg for almost 10 years, not looking to change that today
#1393 [06:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> well, up to you
#1394 [06:41] <Wug> ;+ avg AVG sometimes blocks minecraft from being able to connect to the internet. To fix it, add exceptions to AVG and AVG's Linkscanner.
#1395 [06:41] <WugBot> Done.
#1396 [06:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> follow what wug said
#1397 [06:42] <Scott> That's not actually true. It just stops the download of one of the libraries.
#1398 [06:42] <Scott> Once you have it downloaded, AVG doesn't cause any issues to my knowledge.
#1399 [06:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> until theres an update
#1400 [06:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> or you need to reinstall mc
#1401 [06:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> or maybe a mod ur dl'ing has a similar issue
#1402 [06:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> :)
#1403 [06:43] <Scott> Both of which would be redownloading it so you'd need to disable the link scanner for that.
#1404 [06:43] <SinZ> AVG Free is quite nice
#1405 [06:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> or just add exceptions
#1406 [06:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> which would be better
#1407 [06:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> so anyway, sigd, add exceptions to avg and its linkscanner
#1408 [06:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> then try again
#1409 [06:44] <Sigd> I've disabled AVG and AVG linkscanner, still fails immediately. I'll try and figure out how to make exceptions
#1410 [06:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> O.o
#1411 [06:44] <Scott> Then there's another problem.
#1412 [06:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> did you relaunch mc?
#1413 [06:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> after disabling them
#1414 [06:45] <Scott> Umm yeah.
#1415 [06:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> sigd
#1416 [06:45] <Scott> The error he is getting isn't even caused by AVG...
#1417 [06:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> it could be caused by different avs
#1418 [06:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> doesnt just affect one
#1419 [06:46] <Wug> Sigd: is java up to date
#1420 [06:46] <Sigd> yes
#1421 [06:46] <Wug> do you have java 7 by any chance
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#1423 [06:47] <Sigd> not sure to be honest
#1424 [06:47] <Wug> ;search version
#1425 [06:47] <WugBot> Matches for "version": cantconnect check/java java/archive java/version/cmd login/manual loginurl mc/register mods old/mac
#1426 [06:47] <Wug> :check/java
#1427 [06:47] <WugBot> check/java: Please ensure that you have only the most recent version of java installed. If you have any older versions of java installed, uninstall them. If uninstallation fails, contact someone here for help.
#1428 [06:47] <Wug> uhh
#1429 [06:47] <Wug> :java/version/cmd
#1430 [06:47] <WugBot> java/version/cmd: Press WIN+R. In the box that appears, enter 'cmd' and hit enter. In the black command prompt window, type the following command: "java -version > file.txt && file.txt". Notepad will open with java's version info. Copy to pastebin, click submit, and send us the link you are sent to.
#1431 [06:47] <Wug> Sigd: do this ^
#1432 [06:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> wugbots on strike
#1433 [06:48] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
#1434 [06:48] <Sigd> java version "1.5.0"
#1435 [06:48] <Sigd> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0-b64)
#1436 [06:48] <Sigd> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0-b64, mixed mode)
#1437 [06:49] <Wug> Sigd: holy crap thats old
#1438 [06:49] <Sigd> :)
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#1440 [06:49] <Sigd> I'm a MS .Net developer UK ...
#1441 [06:49] <Wug> :j
#1442 [06:49] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#1443 [06:50] <Wug> wow lol
#1444 [06:50] <Sigd> OK I'll do that now and log back in later ...
#1445 [06:50] <Wug> Sigd: grab java from there ^
#1446 [06:50] <Sigd> It's a recent Windows 78 build so ...
#1447 [06:50] <Sigd> 7
#1448 [06:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> 78?
#1449 [06:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> o
#1450 [06:50] <Wug> java 5 is ancient
#1451 [06:51] <Sigd> I have big fingers
#1452 [06:51] <Wug> if its a new install of win7, I have no idea why you have it
#1453 [06:51] <Sigd> Hey the games retro right?
#1454 [06:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> retro = what in your mind
#1455 [06:51] <Sigd> Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30 OK
#1456 [06:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> if by retro you mean non computer intensive or not needing latest software, then no
#1457 [06:52] <Wug> java 5 came out like 7 years ago
#1458 [06:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> yes
#1459 [06:52] <Wug> 2004
#1460 [06:52] <Wug> minecraft isnt very retro at all
#1461 [06:52] <SinZ> ^
#1462 [06:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> its just got big blocks
#1463 [06:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> dont confuse big blocks with being a small non intensive game
#1464 [06:53] <Sigd> My kids are happily playing Minecraft on the iPad...
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#1466 [06:56] <Sigd> java version "1.6.0_30"
#1467 [06:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> good
#1468 [06:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> now try again
#1469 [06:56] <Sigd> Successfully past the problem, downloading stuff...
#1470 [06:56] <mib_n2xzf3> When I try to login on minecraft (1.1) I get a black screen, anyone know why / what I can do ?
#1471 [06:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> ;search drivers
#1472 [06:57] <WugBot> Matches for "drivers": amd/beta c660 win/hosts
#1473 [06:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> eh
#1474 [06:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> update your video drivers mib_n2xzf3
#1475 [06:57] <Sigd> Thanks for the help. I suggest a java version check might me worth mentioning somewhere in support.
#1476 [06:58] <mib_n2xzf3> okay, thanks !
#1477 [06:59] <Wug> WhereIsMySpoon: :dx is dxdiag instructions
#1478 [06:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> im used to voxel
#1479 [06:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> :L
#1480 [06:59] <Wug> you generally need to figure out what they have for a graphics card that way since people only very raerly know
#1481 [07:00] <Wug> wugbot has a few entries for specific drivers but only 2 or 3 at this point
#1482 [07:00] <Wug> ;search driver/
#1483 [07:00] <WugBot> Matches for "driver/": driver/naming driver/win7/x64/intel/4series driver/win7/x64/nvidia/*
#1484 [07:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> why doesnt it match "driver" to those
#1485 [07:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> its a subset of all of those
#1486 [07:01] <Wug> you searched for 'drivers'
#1487 [07:01] <Wug> :P its just string matching
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#1489 [07:04] <mib_z3qb7o> Ineed help... i just bought the game but it keeps saying done loading...
#1490 [07:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh, yea
#1491 [07:06] <arjan28> Can anyone help me with the loading game page? it keeps stuck on "Done Loading"
#1492 [07:07] <Wug> arjan28: has it worked before
#1493 [07:07] <arjan28> Yes
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#1495 [07:07] <Wug> did you try to install mods for 1.0 onto minecraft 1.1?
#1496 [07:08] <arjan28> i probably did.... with single player commands...
#1497 [07:09] <Wug> :fu
#1498 [07:09] <WugBot> fu: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1499 [07:09] <WugBot> fu: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1500 [07:09] <arjan28> ok im trying
#1501 [07:10] <arjan28> THX now i can play again :)
#1502 [07:10] <Wug> np
#1503 [07:10] <arjan28> bye
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#1507 [07:22] <ferminter> \hi, we purchased minecraft and can not get it to work on our childs new laptop. Running win 7 32 bit We have the latest Java, Intel HD grahic drivers, yet when we load any version we get a white or black empty screen after loading the game.
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#1513 [07:24] <wnriuhwithwiriqehwruisxehjri> how do i allocate more memory to java?
#1514 [07:25] <mib_en32h4> can anyone help we have dowloaded mincraft anf after a while playing it comes up with the out or memory message and quits - help
#1515 [07:25] <wnriuhwithwiriqehwruisxehjri> what do i do to allocate more memory???
#1516 [07:26] <Boreeas> wnriuhwithwiriqehwruisxehjri: Change your nick please
#1517 [07:26] <Boreeas> wnriuhwithwiriqehwruisxehjri: With /nick <newnick>
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#1519 [07:26] <minecraftter> kk iv echanged it
#1520 [07:26] <Boreeas> Welcome back, minecraftter
#1521 [07:26] <minecraftter> lol
#1522 [07:26] <minecraftter> so what do i do?
#1523 [07:26] <Boreeas> minecraftter: What do you need more memory for?
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#1525 [07:27] <minecraftter> it says minecraft has run outa memory all the time
#1526 [07:27] <minecraftter> and java needs to be allocated more memory
#1527 [07:27] <Boreeas> minecraftter: Do you know how much RAM you have in total?
#1528 [07:27] <minecraftter> no
#1529 [07:27] <Boreeas> minecraftter: What OS are you using? Windows, Mac, something else?
#1530 [07:28] <minecraftter> windows
#1531 [07:28] <Boreeas> Okay
#1532 [07:28] <Boreeas> minecraftter: Press CTRL + Shift + Escape at the same time
#1533 [07:28] <Boreeas> The task manager should pop up
#1534 [07:28] <minecraftter> kk while on minecraft?
#1535 [07:28] <Boreeas> Nah, outside minecraft
#1536 [07:28] <minecraftter> kk
#1537 [07:28] <minecraftter> got it
#1538 [07:28] <minecraftter> now what
#1539 [07:29] <Boreeas> Do you see the tab called "Performance"?
#1540 [07:29] <minecraftter> yes
#1541 [07:29] <dylanbarberdude> Can i ban the use of eggs on my server to ops only?
#1542 [07:29] <Boreeas> dylanbarberdude: Try #bukkit
#1543 [07:29] <Boreeas> minecraftter: Alright, one second
#1544 [07:30] <dylanbarberdude> bukkit is not for 1.0.1 yet
#1545 [07:30] <ferminter> \first time user here, how long should i wauit for some assistance?
#1546 [07:30] <minecraftter> ..
#1547 [07:30] <Boreeas> minecraftter: Do you see the box called "Physical memory"?
#1548 [07:30] <minecraftter> yes
#1549 [07:30] <minecraftter> it says total 3581
#1550 [07:31] <Boreeas> dylanbarberdude: Vanilla server can't do that, sorry
#1551 [07:31] <minecraftter> cached 2751
#1552 [07:31] <minecraftter> free 41
#1553 [07:31] <Boreeas> ferminter: That depends on how many people need assistance and how many people are helping
#1554 [07:31] <Boreeas> minecraftter: Are you running minecraft right now?
#1555 [07:31] <minecraftter> the launcher is open, yes
#1556 [07:31] <Boreeas> Okay
#1557 [07:32] <minecraftter> oh now it says 0
#1558 [07:32] <minecraftter> i just logged in
#1559 [07:32] <minecraftter> it says 0 free
#1560 [07:32] <Boreeas> Can you switch back to the processes tab?
#1561 [07:32] <ferminter> Thanks. Not been able to use it for 3 weeks s don't mind waiting
#1562 [07:32] <minecraftter> kk
#1563 [07:32] <Boreeas> minecraftter: Now sort the list by Memory usage
#1564 [07:32] <dylanbarberdude> When i run the bat to start my server as admin were do my server files go?
#1565 [07:33] <minecraftter> the biggest user is java
#1566 [07:33] <Boreeas> dylanbarberdude: The directory where the bat is
#1567 [07:33] <minecraftter> second is iexplore
#1568 [07:33] <Boreeas> minecraftter: By how much each?
#1569 [07:33] <dylanbarberdude> No its not there
#1570 [07:33] <minecraftter> java 428 thousand
#1571 [07:34] <minecraftter> iexplore 51 thousand
#1572 [07:34] <Boreeas> dylanbarberdude: Maybe the directoy from which you called the bat
#1573 [07:34] <dylanbarberdude> no
#1574 [07:34] <Boreeas> minecraftter: Hmm
#1575 [07:34] <Boreeas> minecraftter: What letter is behind each number?
#1576 [07:34] <dylanbarberdude> dont worry i justn theoy
#1577 [07:34] <minecraftter> K
#1578 [07:35] <dylanbarberdude> how to select the dir
#1579 [07:35] <dylanbarberdude> bye
#1580 [07:35] <Boreeas> So, it says 428,000 K, minecraftter ?
#1581 [07:35] <minecraftter> yes
#1582 [07:35] <Boreeas> Hmm
#1583 [07:36] <Boreeas> minecraftter: What other processes are at the top?
#1584 [07:36] <minecraftter> steam
#1585 [07:36] <Boreeas> By?
#1586 [07:36] <Boreeas> Brb
#1587 [07:36] <minecraftter> 49,000 k
#1588 [07:37] <Boreeas> Hmm
#1589 [07:38] <Boreeas> minecraftter: Try restarting your computer, something is hogging your memory but I can'T find it
#1590 [07:38] <minecraftter> kk
#1591 [07:38] <Boreeas> minecraftter: On another note (this is not causing youir problems) consider switching Browsers
#1592 [07:38] <minecraftter> brb then!
#1593 [07:38] <Boreeas> minecraftter: I recommend Firefox, but Chrom is good, too
#1594 [07:39] <Boreeas> ferminter: Alright, what was your problem?
#1595 [07:39] <ferminter> hi, we purchased minecraft and can not get it to work on our childs new laptop. Running win 7 32 bit We have the latest Java, Intel HD grahic drivers, yet when we load any version we get a white or black empty screen after loading the game.
#1596 [07:40] <SinZ> any mods?
#1597 [07:40] <Boreeas> ??> ferminter win/dxdiag
#1598 [07:40] <VoxelHead> ferminter: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1599 [07:40] <VoxelHead> ferminter: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1600 [07:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> chrome > all :p
#1601 [07:43] <Boreeas> WhereIsMySpoon: shaddup
#1602 [07:44] <ferminter> sorry what is IRc channel?
#1603 [07:44] <Boreeas> ferminter: This is
#1604 [07:44] <ferminter> http://pastebin.com/juu8G4y4
#1605 [07:44] <Boreeas> ferminter: First of all, you are not running windows 32, but windows 64
#1606 [07:45] <ferminter> ok
#1607 [07:46] <Boreeas> ferminter: Alright, try updating your crad drivers
#1608 [07:47] <Boreeas> *video card
#1609 [07:47] <ferminter> tried that and have most up to date drivers
#1610 [07:47] <Boreeas> Hmm
#1611 [07:47] <Boreeas> ferminter: Are you using Java for 32 bit or 64 bit?
#1612 [07:48] <ferminter> hold on
#1613 [07:48] <ferminter> 32 bit
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#1615 [07:49] <K3V1N> any online?
#1616 [07:49] <Boreeas> ferminter: Alright. Deinstall java 32bit and reinstall java 64
#1617 [07:49] <Boreeas> ferminter: This tool makes removing java fiarly easy
#1618 [07:49] <Boreeas> ??> ferminter win/javara
#1619 [07:49] <VoxelHead> ferminter: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1620 [07:49] <VoxelHead> ferminter: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software and you can download it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/javara/files/
#1621 [07:49] <ferminter> will do Thx
#1622 [07:50] <Boreeas> ferminter: I guess you know how to install a new java?
#1623 [07:50] <K3V1N> i cant run my mincraft, when i try to it stalls at loading
#1624 [07:52] <AureliusM> K3V1N: tried Options Force Update ?
#1625 [07:52] <K3V1N> yes
#1626 [07:52] <ferminter> yes, will come back if cant fix. thanks for your advice and help
#1627 [07:53] <AureliusM> K3V1N: tried deleting all of \.minecraft except the saves?
#1628 [07:53] <K3V1N> i havent got any saves bught the game today, and havent been playing yet coz it stalls at loading
#1629 [07:53] <SinZ> any errors?
#1630 [07:53] <K3V1N> no no errors
#1631 [07:54] <SinZ> Have you tried to install any mods?
#1632 [07:54] <AureliusM> K3V1N: Ok, are you using Windows? And what Antivirus and firewall are running?
#1633 [07:54] <K3V1N> no
#1634 [07:54] <K3V1N> no antivirus or firewall is up and yes i am running windows 7 games 64 bi version and i have java
#1635 [07:54] <K3V1N> windows 7 gamer*
#1636 [07:55] <SinZ> what version of java
#1637 [07:55] <K3V1N> java 6
#1638 [07:55] <AureliusM> K3V1N: So, you've never tried Minecraft before on this PC? In browser, or the PCGamer demo?
#1639 [07:55] <K3V1N> no
#1640 [07:56] <AureliusM> K3V1N: Hmm, no antivurus at all? Not even Microsoft's default?
#1641 [07:56] <K3V1N> nope
#1642 [07:56] <AureliusM> K3V1N: Can you do a dxdiag for us? Instructions follow:
#1643 [07:56] <SinZ> ??> K3VIN win/dxdiag
#1644 [07:56] <VoxelHead> K3VIN: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1645 [07:56] <AureliusM> ??> K3V1N win/dxdiag
#1646 [07:56] <VoxelHead> K3VIN: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1647 [07:57] * AureliusM was ninja'd
#1647 [07:57] * mib_stcml8 [mib_stcml8@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1648 [07:57] * SinZ is a ninja
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#1650 [07:58] <mib_stcml8> my son cant log in on minecraft right now, are there server problems?
#1651 [07:58] <K3V1N> http://pastebin.com/ENK8155e
#1652 [07:58] <AureliusM> mib_stcml8: I'll check
#1653 [07:58] <Boreeas> !login
#1654 [07:58] <Boreeas> Nope, servers are up
#1655 [07:59] <mib_stcml8> got this error: --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 14-01-12 13:00 Minecraft: Minecraft 1.1 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.6.0_29, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 OpenGL: Intel(R) HD Graphics version 2.1.0 - Build 8.15.10.2509, Intel java.lang.IllegalArgumentExcept
#1656 [07:59] <Wug> K3V1N: has it worked on that computer before?
#1657 [08:00] <mib_stcml8> yes, until yesterday
#1658 [08:00] <Wug> :pastebin > mib_stcml8
#1659 [08:00] <WugBot> mib_stcml8: (pastebin) Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#1660 [08:00] <SinZ> mib_stcml8: use pastebin
#1661 [08:00] <K3V1N> nope as i said, bught the game today anf it is the first time im trying to play it
#1662 [08:00] <Wug> mib_stcml8: if we're speaking to you we'll use your name
#1663 [08:00] <Wug> :tv > K3V1N
#1664 [08:00] <WugBot> K3V1N: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1665 [08:00] <WugBot> K3V1N: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1666 [08:01] <K3V1N> i have a team user
#1667 [08:02] <K3V1N> i dont understand this --->/msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1668 [08:02] <Wug> send me the user id and password
#1669 [08:02] <Wug> use that command
#1670 [08:02] <Wug> get the id and pass from teamviewer
#1671 [08:02] <K3V1N> what doz x y and www stand for?
#1672 [08:03] <Boreeas> Just numbers
#1673 [08:03] <Boreeas> The numbers in the teamviewer window
#1674 [08:04] <K3V1N> did u get my message ?
#1675 [08:05] <Wug> K3V1N: I did, read mine
#1676 [08:05] <Wug> ;module clonewatch load
#1677 [08:05] <WugBot> Loaded and initialized module: clonewatch
#1678 [08:05] <Wug> ;module clonewatch allow
#1679 [08:05] <WugBot> Allowing user tracking in #minecrafthelp
#1680 [08:05] <Wug> ;module clonewatch responsetype notice
#1681 [08:05] <WugBot> Response type for #minecrafthelp set to notice.
#1682 [08:06] <K3V1N> wug pm
#1683 [08:06] <Wug> ;module clonewatch notify #minecrafthelp +#minecrafthelp
#1684 [08:06] <WugBot> Response target for #minecrafthelp set to +#minecrafthelp.
#1685 [08:06] <Wug> doing things with the bot, h/o reading message
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#1687 [08:15] <K3V1N> ;search driver
#1688 [08:15] <Wug> ;search driver
#1689 [08:15] <WugBot> Matches for "driver": amd/beta c660 driver/naming driver/win7/x64/intel/4series driver/win7/x64/nvidia/* win/hosts
#1690 [08:16] <K3V1N> : Matches for "driver": amd/beta c660 driver/naming driver/win7/x64/intel/4series driver/win7/x64/nvidia/*
#1691 [08:16] <K3V1N> :driver/win7/x64/nvidia/*
#1692 [08:16] <K3V1N> ...
#1693 [08:16] <Wug> :driver/win7/x64/nvidia/*
#1694 [08:16] <WugBot> driver/win7/x64/nvidia/*: Download and install this driver for Desktops with Windows 7 or Windows Vista, 64 bit editions, with GeForce Series 6, 7, 8, 9, 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, or ION GPUs:
#1695 [08:16] <WugBot> driver/win7/x64/nvidia/*: http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/38916
#1696 [08:16] <Wug> bot y u no listen
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#1698 [08:18] <Wug> :j
#1699 [08:18] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
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#1702 [08:19] <TheNexusElement> Connecction Lost. Internal client error: java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: connection
#1703 [08:19] <TheNexusElement> I ahve uninstalled, reinstalled, let through firewall, and restarted my computer but still get the same error...
#1704 [08:20] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: trying multiplayer?
#1705 [08:21] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: Are you hosting a server, or trying to connect to one? Or Is this error when you try to login?
#1706 [08:21] <TheNexusElement> Yes, that's all that's affected at the moment
#1707 [08:21] <TheNexusElement> Both hosting and playing on it. No errors have happened like this while connecting locally in over a yeae
#1708 [08:21] <TheNexusElement> *year
#1709 [08:23] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: So you run server 1.1 on your own machine and try to connect locally with 1.1 client?
#1710 [08:23] <TheNexusElement> Yes
#1711 [08:23] <TheNexusElement> Bukkit to be exact
#1712 [08:24] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: Never used bukkit, but can you pastebin the full error log?
#1713 [08:24] <AureliusM> ??> TheNexusElement pastebin
#1714 [08:24] <VoxelHead> TheNexusElement: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1715 [08:25] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: did you check the client you use works with a vanilla client? I'll go look for a 1.1 server now.
#1716 [08:25] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: I meant vanilla 1.1 server of course
#1717 [08:26] <TheNexusElement> All the error displays on the console is lost connection. The client is just a one line error said above(Internal client error: java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: connect)
#1718 [08:26] * mib_n5f97x [mib_n5f97x@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1719 [08:26] <TheNexusElement> My client is vanilla. I refuse to use anything but that, seeing as it wouldnt be minecraft
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#1721 [08:27] <mib_n5f97x> Hi, got advice to load Java 64 bit for my Win 7 64bit laptop. Got latest Intel HD drivers and trying IE and Chrome, but still get blank white screen on browser version and blank black screen on classic.
#1722 [08:28] <Wug> AureliusM: did I tell you to check k3vin for relevantknowledge or was that someone els
#1723 [08:28] <Wug> because THATS WHAT IT WAS BSEKLGSEJRGK
#1724 [08:28] * Wug baps everyone
#1724 [08:28] <Wug> I'm getting food because I'm grumpy
#1725 [08:28] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: I pm'd you a vanilla 1.1 server to try
#1726 [08:29] * peru_ [peru_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1727 [08:29] <AureliusM> Wug: not me
#1728 [08:29] * Wug baps AureliusM anyway
#1728 [08:29] * AureliusM eats the tasty bap
#1728 [08:29] <TheNexusElement> I get the same error
#1729 [08:30] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: I saw no connection attempt at my server
#1730 [08:30] <TheNexusElement> I'll try again...
#1731 [08:30] <Wug> ;check AureliusM
#1732 [08:30] <WugBot> dynamic-adsl-78-14-182-142.clienti.tiscali.it:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Vanilla 1.1 Minecraft Server (1/11)
#1733 [08:30] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: wait I saw a lost connection
#1734 [08:30] <TheNexusElement> Still the same response. On my server it only says lost connection...
#1735 [08:31] <Wug> AureliusM: that was wugbot
#1736 [08:31] <Wug> ;ip wugbot
#1737 [08:31] <WugBot> IP address of WugBot is: 129.21.137.155
#1738 [08:31] <AureliusM> Sorry
#1739 [08:31] <TheNexusElement> Is it possible to be the launcher? (i tried connecting without mods as welll)
#1740 [08:31] <Wug> its highly unlikely
#1741 [08:31] <AureliusM> Does that WugBot check if the server actually accepts logins? Mine usually does
#1742 [08:31] <Wug> try using the online client
#1743 [08:32] <Wug> :game/online
#1744 [08:32] <WugBot> game/online: To play the game in browser, click this link: http://www.minecraft.net/play
#1745 [08:32] <Wug> AureliusM: it doesnt actually try to log in but it queries the motd and player counts
#1746 [08:32] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: I see 2 lost connections from or to /184.146.81.62
#1747 [08:33] <TheNexusElement> That's me
#1748 [08:33] <TheNexusElement> the ip at least
#1749 [08:33] <mib_n5f97x> Anyone got advice for Blank screens after Java app loads on all versions of Minecraft? Unhappy 11 year old son unable to play since he got new laptop 4 Xmas and paid his £17
#1750 [08:33] <TheNexusElement> I'm also unable to force update...
#1751 [08:33] <AureliusM> ;check AureliusM
#1752 [08:33] <WugBot> dynamic-adsl-78-14-182-142.clienti.tiscali.it:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Vanilla 1.1 Minecraft Server (0/11)
#1753 [08:35] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: Ok, so login from the launcher works, singleplayer works, but outside servers do not. I'll try a different port, please wait
#1754 [08:35] <TheNexusElement> Ok.
#1755 [08:35] <TheNexusElement> I deleted my bin, and I can't even download packages...
#1756 [08:36] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: Check your router restrictions for port 25565
#1757 [08:36] <TheNexusElement> I have it forwarded, but I'll check
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#1759 [08:37] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: try my test server again but with port 38098
#1760 [08:37] <TheNexusElement> Where would I find port restrictions
#1761 [08:38] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: Depends on router and firewall, I only now my Thomson Alcatel router and the Windows Firewall
#1762 [08:39] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: *only know
#1763 [08:39] <AureliusM> ;check AureliusM
#1764 [08:39] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: dynamic-adsl-78-14-182-142.clienti.tiscali.it:25565 (Timed out)
#1765 [08:39] <TheNexusElement> This time it said bad login (Probably due to the deleting of my bin) - I can't redownload the pckages...
#1766 [08:39] <AureliusM> ;check AureliusM:38098
#1767 [08:39] <WugBot> Unable to determine the hostname of aureliusm:38098. Nobody with that nickname seems to be online.
#1768 [08:40] <AureliusM> How can I tell WugBot to try different port numbers?
#1769 [08:40] <SinZ> ;check AureliusM 38098
#1770 [08:40] <TheNexusElement> Both UDP and TCP have IP and Port restrictions set to on
#1771 [08:40] <SinZ> Bad Login, try redownloading the launcher
#1772 [08:41] <SinZ> and make sure your systems clock and date are correct
#1773 [08:41] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: I saw one lost connection from same IP as before
#1774 [08:41] <mib_n5f97x> Anyone here able to offer advice on issue with getting Minecraft to load?
#1775 [08:41] <TheNexusElement> I just updated via browser, it updated me to 1.0.0
#1776 [08:42] <SinZ> 0.o
#1777 [08:42] <SinZ> but latest is 1.1
#1778 [08:42] <TheNexusElement> and now it isn't saying anything about an update
#1779 [08:42] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: Ah, 1.0.0, I was running 1.1 server. I can switch to 1.0.1 server if it helps
#1780 [08:42] <TheNexusElement> That's what I mean, why would it update me o
#1781 [08:42] <TheNexusElement> to 1.1.0? and I was on 1.1 before
#1782 [08:43] <TheNexusElement> I deleted my bin and then client wouldnt let me update, so i went to web and it downloaded 1.0.0
#1783 [08:43] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: 1.0.1 server was the jar version of server 1.0.0 (which had problems)
#1784 [08:43] <TheNexusElement> My server is 1.1.0 at the moment, was 1.0.0 last night and the problem still presists
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#1786 [08:44] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: do you have backups of the 1.0.0 client you can test?
#1787 [08:44] <TheNexusElement> Yes. Modded though
#1788 [08:45] <TheNexusElement> Although my minecraft just updated to 1.0.0 (not 1.1.0)
#1789 [08:46] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: but the problem is your current client doesn't update to 1.1 . I cannot understand how it could update to 1.0.0 ...
#1790 [08:47] <TheNexusElement> I don't understand how it's running. It's updated, but my bun has ths natives folder, and WorldEdit.jar. Nothing else...
#1791 [08:48] <TheNexusElement> Ok, now that I used a backup jar, it says i can update, but comes back with an error while trying to update
#1792 [08:48] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: Was the 1.0.0 completely clean? I have tested vanilla 1.0.0 updates to 1.1.0 yesterday. ... oh wait worldedit is a mod...
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#1794 [08:49] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: So, the minecraft.jar in bin has no META-INF ?
#1795 [08:49] <TheNexusElement> the 1.0.0 was modded..
#1796 [08:49] <TheNexusElement> so no META-INF
#1797 [08:49] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: We would normally try a 100% clean install, but that would get 1.1
#1798 [08:49] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: We would normally try a 100% clean install, but that would get 1.1
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#1800 [08:50] <TheNexusElement> I have a clean jar now
#1801 [08:50] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: Can you create a new folder, call it testfull, and inside download minecraft.jar from minecraft.net/download into it
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#1803 [08:51] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: and then sort of follow these instructions, skipping the minecraft.jar part: http://pastebin.com/z6W2GTKz
#1804 [08:52] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: this way you should get a clean install, and we can diagnose from there. Might be Java or something else interfering
#1805 [08:52] * AureliusM is away for 86 seconds
#1805 [08:55] <mib_n5f97x> anyone able to help?
#1806 [08:55] <TheNexusElement> I have a bunch of error lines now, from the console
#1807 [08:56] <AureliusM> mib_n5f97x: Please state your problem
#1808 [08:57] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: are they classnotfound errors? Please pastebin them to us
#1809 [08:57] <TheNexusElement> http://pastebin.com/Ras2eYev
#1810 [08:57] <TheNexusElement> Not classnotfound, just permission based
#1811 [08:58] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: never seen that before, did minecraft launch and download packages fully? And you tried multiplayer ?
#1812 [08:58] <mib_n5f97x> Had advice this morning to load jav 64 for my Win 7 64bit laptop. have latest Intel Vid drivers and when loading browser, java app loads then get blank white screen. In classic loads Java then get blank black screen
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#1814 [08:59] <TheNexusElement> I can't even download the packages, I get that error too
#1815 [08:59] <xorcon> i cannot get minecraft to run and I need help
#1816 [09:00] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: Ah an error right at the beginning? Something not allowing access for java to download. Check firewall and antivirus carefully. Check hosts. Might still be Java needs a kick.
#1817 [09:01] <TheNexusElement> My firewall has 6 different jave versions allowed (jre6,jre7,javaw,java from both)
#1818 [09:01] <xorcon> it is saying that it could not find an accelerated openGL mode
#1819 [09:01] <AureliusM> mib_n5f97x: Was it Java 6? And which laptop model?
#1820 [09:01] <TheNexusElement> Antivirus allows java, just says it takes alot of processor power
#1821 [09:02] <TheNexusElement> What do you mean by chack hosts?
#1822 [09:02] <mib_n5f97x> Yep latest Java and Toshiba laptop with Intel HD graphics card
#1823 [09:02] <mib_n5f97x> tosh Satelite C660
#1824 [09:02] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: So you have multiple Java's installed, can you disable all but the latest Java 6? in Java control panel Java tab I believe
#1825 [09:03] <TheNexusElement> I'll uninstall...
#1826 [09:03] <TheNexusElement> Java 6 Update 30 right?
#1827 [09:04] <TheNexusElement> Rather that's all I should have?
#1828 [09:04] <AureliusM> mib_n5f97x: No error message in files name starting with hs_err_pid ? Did you do a dxdiag you could link to ?
#1829 [09:05] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: Yes, normally we get users to uninstall all, but I thought you might want the others for dev work, but they can complicate things. So, please uninstall all and reinstall Java 6 u 30.
#1830 [09:06] <TheNexusElement> Give me about 2 minutes... almost done
#1831 [09:07] <AureliusM> mib_n5f97x: what nick did you have when you were here earlier? So I can check the history.
#1832 [09:08] <TheNexusElement> Ok, I only have java 6 update 30 now
#1833 [09:09] <_303> mib_n5f97x: /nick yournewnickhere
#1834 [09:09] <AureliusM> mib_n5f97x: I found this which might be yours: http://pastebin.com/juu8G4y4
#1835 [09:09] <TheNexusElement> Seems to work...
#1836 [09:09] <mib_n5f97x> yes i was
#1837 [09:10] <TheNexusElement> Multiplayer works as well. Thanks. (Java 7 might have been the problem alll along)
#1838 [09:10] <AureliusM> mib_n5f97x: Posted by nick ferminter - I'm still catching up in the log
#1839 [09:10] <mib_n5f97x> thx
#1840 [09:11] <_303> ferminter is another mibbit default nick
#1841 [09:11] <AureliusM> TheNexusElement: ok good, and good idea to keep a separate folder with vanilla client for diagnosis. Difficult to track down errors when mods are involved.
#1842 [09:11] <xorcon> what does it mean when it is saying that their it could not find an accelerated OpenGL
#1843 [09:13] <xorcon> could someone please help me out?
#1844 [09:13] <AureliusM> mib_n5f97x: formerly ferminter: recap: Windows 64 bit, you uninstalled all Java and installed 64 bit Java 6 update 30? You used the javara tool?
#1845 [09:13] <AureliusM> xorcon: Try to update your video graphics video drivers.
#1846 [09:14] <AureliusM> xorcon: also, please do a dxdiag:
#1847 [09:14] <mib_n5f97x> No, went on Java website and downloaded after un installing 32 bit
#1848 [09:14] <AureliusM> ??> xorcon win/dxdiag
#1849 [09:14] <VoxelHead> xorcon: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1850 [09:14] <VoxelHead> xorcon: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1851 [09:14] <AureliusM> xorcon: If you have Windows that is
#1852 [09:15] <AureliusM> mib_n5f97x: formerly ferminter: ok, and minecraft still white screens at the downloading progress bar ?
#1853 [09:15] <mib_n5f97x> Yep, seems to complete download then white screens for browser
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#1855 [09:16] <AureliusM> mib_n5f97x: click Start click Control Panel, find and double click the java icon, click teh Java tab and click the View button there: product name should be 1.6.0_3'
#1856 [09:17] <pheleas_frog> how do u downlode the game
#1857 [09:17] <AureliusM> mib_n5f97x: 1.6.0_30
#1858 [09:18] <AureliusM> mib_n5f97x: What firewall and antivirus are running?r
#1859 [09:18] <mib_n5f97x> yep
#1860 [09:18] <mib_n5f97x> Norton
#1861 [09:18] <pheleas_frog> yes
#1862 [09:18] <AureliusM> ??> pheleas_frog client
#1863 [09:18] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: Windows?
#1864 [09:19] <pheleas_frog> yes
#1865 [09:19] <AureliusM> mib_n5f97x: Please check Norton's settings to ensure it allows java and minecraft to run. If not possible, please disable Norton temporarily and retry Minecraft Options Force Update
#1866 [09:20] <AureliusM> ??> pheleas_frog win/client
#1867 [09:20] <VoxelHead> pheleas_frog: (win/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#1868 [09:20] <pheleas_frog> ok
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#1872 [09:31] <AureliusM> mib_n5f97x: I've not used Norton, but I would allow java.exe and javaw.exe to access minecraft.net and s3.amazonaws.com which is minecraft.net's hoster, so to speak
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#1874 [09:34] <jdog> after log in, and clicking on "play in browser", it goes to the next mindcraft screen but never loads
#1875 [09:34] <jdog> I just get the grey screen
#1876 [09:35] <AureliusM> jdog: Has minecraft worked on your machine before?
#1877 [09:35] <jdog> yes, but very slowly
#1878 [09:35] <jdog> running on wifi
#1879 [09:37] <AureliusM> jdog: Is this Classic minecraft or the premium 1.1 version?
#1880 [09:37] <jdog> premium 1.1
#1881 [09:38] <AureliusM> jdog: did minecraft 1.1 ever work on your machine? And can you try a fixed connection, not WiFi?
#1882 [09:39] <jdog> yes it worked for weeks, i have fixxed the wifi as needed.
#1883 [09:40] <jdog> I have no lines coming to this home. We only use cell phones and the tv is a dish
#1884 [09:40] <AureliusM> jdog: 1.0 just updated to 1.1 a couple of days ago, so did the problem start after you updated to 1.1 ?
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#1886 [09:42] <jdog> maybe I only have 1.0? Not shure. Do I need the update?
#1887 [09:42] <AureliusM> jdog: Is it hanging after you click the Yes button in the Would you like to update screen ?
#1888 [09:42] <AureliusM> jdog: If you have slow wifi I would wait to update
#1889 [09:43] <jdog> I never get the update screen
#1890 [09:43] <jdog> I never get the update screen
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#1893 [09:44] <AureliusM> jdog: In browser what appears?
#1894 [09:44] <jdog> Goes to next screen, says Minecraft at top, but only a grey screen and it's stuck.
#1895 [09:46] <AureliusM> jdog: ok, have you any firewall or antivirus that could be blocking access to the programs java.exe, javaw.exe or to the sites minecraft.net or amazonaws.com ?
#1896 [09:47] <jdog> I have AVG virus check and firewall
#1897 [09:48] <AureliusM> jdog: Can you check AVG's settings, or look at its log to see if it reported anything?
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#1899 [09:48] <jdog> yes, I will try that
#1900 [09:49] <AureliusM> jdog: Did I ask about what java you have? It should be Java 6 update 30. On Windows to check: click Start click Control Panel, double clcik Java icon and click the About button
#1901 [09:50] <Guest26441> I'm going to wipe my hardrive in order to convert my computer to Windows7. But I have Minecraft on my computer. How can I save it from being deleted?
#1902 [09:50] <jdog> I'm going to try to update java, thanks
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#1904 [09:51] <AureliusM> jdog: make sure to uninstall all Java first, and use the offline Java 6, if you have wifi that might be easier
#1905 [09:52] * AureliusM has to go shopping, back in 40 minutes
#1905 [09:52] <AureliusM> Guest26441: copy all the %APPDATA%/.minecraft to a USB stick
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#1907 [09:53] <dylanbarberdude> That was a quick 40 minutes!
#1908 [09:53] <AureliusM> Guest26441: the bin folder there contains the program files, the saves folder contains your worlds
#1909 [09:53] <Guest26441> How much memory would you suggest it to have in order to contain Minecraft?
#1910 [09:53] <dylanbarberdude> 512mb
#1911 [09:54] <frogmella> how to fix error code 4
#1912 [09:54] <AureliusM> Guest26441: disk space you mean? Depends, Mine take only 40 MB disk, but memory to run minecraft - at least 1 GB I would say, can work with less
#1913 [09:54] <Guest26441> Ok...hang on a sec
#1914 [09:54] * AureliusM is really off shopping now
#1914 [09:54] <dylanbarberdude> min 512mb
#1915 [09:54] <dylanbarberdude> lol
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#1917 [09:55] <Guest26441> Would moving it to a 1 terribyte shared drive e safe?
#1918 [09:57] <frogmella> what does error code 4 mean while trying to update to 1.0
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#1920 [10:00] <Guest26441> dylanbarberdude - Would moving it to a 1 terribyte shared drive be safe?
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#1922 [10:00] <Guest26441> ...and how can I find the "bin folder"
#1923 [10:02] <Guest26441> anybody here?
#1924 [10:04] <JohnEBH> Guest26441- Windows 7?
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#1927 [10:09] <Guest26441> JohnEBH - I'm wiping my hardrive, but I want to keep my Minecraft files safe. Would moving it to a 1 terribyte shared drive be safe?
#1928 [10:10] <JohnEBH> I guess?
#1929 [10:11] <JohnEBH> What do you mean by shared drive? It's not on your PC?
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#1931 [10:11] <Kraeuterbutter> Hi.
#1932 [10:12] <Kraeuterbutter> Ive got a problem
#1933 [10:12] <JohnEBH> ??> Kraeuterbutter ask
#1934 [10:12] <VoxelHead> Kraeuterbutter: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1935 [10:12] <VoxelHead> Kraeuterbutter: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#1937 [10:13] <Kraeuterbutter> OK.
#1938 [10:13] <Kraeuterbutter> OK.
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#1940 [10:14] <Kraeuterbutter> Minecraft is always running out of memory.
#1941 [10:14] <Kraeuterbutter> i think the problem is java.
#1942 [10:14] <JohnEBH> How much memory do you have?
#1943 [10:14] <Kraeuterbutter> 2gb
#1944 [10:15] <JohnEBH> we recommend 1.5GB for Minecraft to run
#1945 [10:15] <Kraeuterbutter> ok!?
#1946 [10:15] <JohnEBH> Probably means you have to many things open at once
#1947 [10:15] <Kraeuterbutter> No.
#1948 [10:15] <JohnEBH> Task Manager and check how much RAM you're using with playing MC.
#1949 [10:15] <JohnEBH> Without*
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#1952 [10:19] <Guest26441> Is there anyway I can send you guys a photo of what I need help with?
#1953 [10:19] <Guest26441> GreyVulpine sent me a link awhile back but I forgot what it was
#1954 [10:20] * mib_0p65ii [mib_0p65ii@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1955 [10:20] <mib_0p65ii> how do u make a minecraft server
#1956 [10:20] <tayyor> Hello. I bought minecraft last night, and haven't been able to play it since. I downloaded the server, but every time I try to log in, it says it can't connect to minecraft.net. I know it's not my antivirus or firewall, and I honestly can't think of any other way to fix the problem. I was hoping you guys could help me?
#1957 [10:21] <JohnEBH> Guest26441- If you're just backing up Minecraft and your saves just copy the entire .minecraft directory from %appdata%
#1958 [10:21] <mib_2sajrc> Hi, spoke to Aurelius who advised dsiabling Norton IS to try and sort issue with Minecraft Browser Whitescreening after loading Java. No joy. Any other ideas?
#1959 [10:21] <JohnEBH> ??> mib_0p65ii smp/server
#1960 [10:21] <JohnEBH> ??> mib_0p65ii smp/serversetup
#1961 [10:21] <VoxelHead> mib_0p65ii: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#1962 [10:21] <VoxelHead> mib_0p65ii: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1963 [10:21] <mib_0p65ii> k thax
#1964 [10:21] <Kraeuterbutter> without: 1.12gb; with: 1.82gb
#1965 [10:22] <Guest26441> OK, now I have another problem:
#1966 [10:22] <JohnEBH> Kraeuterbutter- 1.5GB needed =P
#1967 [10:22] <JohnEBH> Kraeuterbutter- End a few processes in Task Manager
#1968 [10:22] <Guest26441> There is a really deep put (filled with water and lava) and I want to dig for some diamonds. Any suggestions on getting down there?
#1969 [10:22] <Guest26441> I don't want to dig straight down, because I might hit lava.
#1970 [10:22] <JohnEBH> ??> tayyor error/cantconnect
#1971 [10:23] <VoxelHead> tayyor: (error/cantconnect) Cannot connect to minecraft.net
#1972 [10:23] <VoxelHead> tayyor: (error/cantconnect) This error can occur for a number of reasons, including outdated java config, incorrect system time, or firewall issues. To fix it, make sure the system time is correct, check that java is allowed to access the internet, and if that fails, uninstall and reinstall java.
#1973 [10:23] <JohnEBH> mib_2sajrc- Have you tried updating Java?
#1974 [10:24] <mib_2sajrc> Downloaded latest 64 bit this morning. also have latest Video drivers for Intel HD graphics card
#1975 [10:24] <Kraeuterbutter> Another Problem: ive got java 32bit, but my computer got 64bit.
#1976 [10:24] <Kraeuterbutter> (sry but my english isnt very wel)
#1977 [10:24] <Kraeuterbutter> *(sry but my english isnt very well)
#1978 [10:25] <JohnEBH> mib_2sajrc- Minecraft beta or classic?
#1979 [10:25] <JohnEBH> Kraeuterbutter- Well a 64bit OS will take up more RAM than a 32bit, which is why it's recommended you have a 64bit if you have 4GB or more
#1980 [10:26] <JohnEBH> Kraeuterbutter- Otherwise the issue is that you don't have enough RAM
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#1982 [10:26] <mib_2sajrc> Paid for minecraft (in browser) Java loads then whitescreens. Clasiic it Blackscreens after loading Java
#1983 [10:26] <JohnEBH> Kraeuterbutter- Fix it by closing a few processes and etc.
#1984 [10:26] <JohnEBH> mib_2sajrc- Have you tried the launcher?
#1985 [10:26] <JohnEBH> !client
#1986 [10:26] <Guest26441> It's Guest26441 again. Accidently left...any tips on getting down that pit?
#1987 [10:27] <tayyor> I'm pretty sure that java can access it, because the program is enabled as an add-on in my browser. I've downloaded twice, and still nothing. The time is right as well. Is there anything else I should try?
#1988 [10:27] <JohnEBH> Guest26441- A buckt of water would be handy if you we're to dig straight down
#1989 [10:27] <JohnEBH> Guest26441- Use it as an elevator
#1990 [10:27] <mib_2sajrc> Dont think so. where do i find it?
#1991 [10:27] <JohnEBH> Guest26441- Most would build a winding staircase.
#1992 [10:27] <Guest26441> Would taking a waterfall down be good.
#1993 [10:27] <Guest26441> Or that...that's a good idea.
#1994 [10:28] <JohnEBH> Guest26441- Since lava and fire got nerfed to not kill you instantly, you should be fine
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#1996 [10:28] <Newly_Non_Virgin> He He He
#1997 [10:28] <JohnEBH> tayyor- Can you disable you antivirus/firewall temporarily?
#1998 [10:29] <JohnEBH> tayyor- See if that fixes it?
#1999 [10:30] <Qube> http://www.minecraft.net/download has "run minecraft_server.jar (621 KB) with" ... should probably update the KB size for the new server
#2000 [10:30] <JohnEBH> ^ Whut? o.o
#2001 [10:30] <Qube> It is now 1.2MB
#2002 [10:31] <Dylan> lol
#2003 [10:31] <JohnEBH> Oh... ok xD I wouldn't know, I stick to Bukkit =P
#2004 [10:32] <tayyor> I did both, and still nothing.
#2005 [10:32] <Qube> I only heard of bukkit last week but after I had the server running
#2006 [10:32] <Qube> so havents used bukkit
#2007 [10:32] <Qube> s/s//
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#2009 [10:33] <JohnEBH> tayyor- Can you try from a different computer? Also does your WINDOWS Username have any special characters? (? , ! and etc)
#2010 [10:34] <tayyor> I don't have access to any other computers. Also, I just took the exclamation point out of the name.
#2011 [10:35] <JohnEBH> tayyor- You might want to try on a new windows user account
#2012 [10:35] <JohnEBH> tayyor- That may have been the problem.
#2013 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> Taking the exclaimation point out of your name does not fix the ! in the profile folder
#2014 [10:35] <JohnEBH> Yaaaay, I'm free to do whatever.
#2015 [10:36] <Wants> crap
#2016 [10:36] <Wants> um
#2017 [10:36] <Wants> um
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#2020 [10:37] <need_helpz> how to play MC on the osx lion
#2021 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> Classic or premium?
#2022 [10:38] <need_helpz> either one
#2023 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> Classic does not work on Macs. To play premium, you need to purchase an account.
#2024 [10:38] <need_helpz> it just loads but its on black screen
#2025 [10:38] <need_helpz> oo okay
#2026 [10:40] <mib_2sajrc> Get this error when download Mineraft: A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000000006856f5bf, pid=4624, tid=5224
#2027 [10:41] <JohnEBH> mib_2sajrc- Pastebin.
#2028 [10:41] <JohnEBH> ??> mib_2sajrc pastebin
#2029 [10:41] <VoxelHead> mib_2sajrc: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#2031 [10:42] <TheCrusher> hi
#2032 [10:42] <mib_2sajrc> http://pastebin.com/E1Bxp1WU
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#2034 [10:42] <JohnEBH> mib_2sajrc- Update your video drivers
#2035 [10:43] <JohnEBH> TheCrusher- Hello
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#2037 [10:43] <TheCrusher> i have a problem launching minecraft.exe
#2038 [10:44] <mib_2sajrc> Laptop has Intel Vid drivers. Intel site directed me back to Tosh to do this. Nothjing on Tosh website, went into control panel and advised I had latest drivers.
#2039 [10:44] <JohnEBH> TheCrusher- Alright, what does it do?
#2040 [10:44] <TheCrusher> every time i try to launch it, it won't do anything exept making a hs_err_pid file with a lot if info in it
#2041 [10:44] <TheCrusher> saying that java runtime has found a fatal error
#2042 [10:45] <JohnEBH> mib_2sajrc- Can I get the specific model?
#2043 [10:45] <JohnEBH> TheCrusher- pastebin that information for us
#2044 [10:45] <JohnEBH> ??> TheCrusher pastebin
#2045 [10:45] <VoxelHead> TheCrusher: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2046 [10:45] <TheCrusher> i tried reinstalling minecraft and java but i still get the same problem
#2047 [10:45] <TheCrusher> ok
#2048 [10:46] <TheCrusher> im new with pastebin, do i need to register or something?
#2049 [10:47] <mib_2sajrc> Tosh Satelite C660/C660D
#2050 [10:47] <JohnEBH> TheCrusher- copy everything in the hs_err_pid file and paste in the area
#2051 [10:47] <JohnEBH> TheCrusher- Then hit submit on the bottom and send us the link it send you to
#2052 [10:47] <TheCrusher> ok, i'll do that
#2053 [10:47] <JohnEBH> mib_2sajrc- give me a sec
#2054 [10:48] <JohnEBH> mib_2sajrc- Another specific? -###
#2055 [10:48] <JohnEBH> http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/series/Satellite-C660-series/1093752/
#2056 [10:48] * GreyVulpine pokes JohnEBH
#2056 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> :c660
#2057 [10:48] <WugBot> c660: The Toshiba C660 laptop has known issues with its GPU drivers. Please follow the directions here: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
#2058 [10:49] <TheCrusher> here's the link: http://pastebin.com/1kJvNAm5
#2059 [10:49] <JohnEBH> I've never heard of it ><"""""
#2060 [10:49] <GreyVulpine> Now you do
#2061 [10:49] <mib_2sajrc> C660/C660D - 21Q
#2062 [10:49] <JohnEBH> Have* :D
#2063 [10:50] <GreyVulpine> TheCrusher - Completely uninstall java from your system. Install only java 6 from:
#2064 [10:50] <tayyor> I created a new user account, and it allowed me to log in to the game, but it stopped during the loading and said there was an error with my video card. At this point there is really nothing I can do..
#2065 [10:50] <GreyVulpine> :j
#2066 [10:50] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#2067 [10:50] <JohnEBH> tayyor- Update your video drivers
#2068 [10:50] <TheCrusher> ok, thanx!:D
#2069 [10:51] <Guest26441> DANGGIT! CURSE YOU LAPIS LAZULE!!!
#2070 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> Easy on the caps.
#2071 [10:51] <tayyor> I've tried, but this is an older computer, and I can't find anything to help.
#2072 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> tayyor - Operating system?
#2073 [10:52] <TheCrusher> what could've caused this problem?
#2074 [10:52] <JohnEBH> Windows.
#2075 [10:52] <TheCrusher> Because i haven't got it before
#2076 [10:52] <JohnEBH> ??> tayyor win/dxdiag
#2077 [10:52] <VoxelHead> tayyor: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2078 [10:52] <VoxelHead> tayyor: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2079 [10:52] <JohnEBH> TheCrusher- You're running Java 7 =P
#2080 [10:53] <TheCrusher> i know, it started to appear when i activated fullscreen this morning
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#2082 [10:54] <TheCrusher> every time i clicked the fullscreen closed and it was normal sized mc again
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#2084 [10:54] <Guest26441> I thought that was diamonds...it's so easy for me to mistake Lapis for Diamonds
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#2086 [10:55] <TheCrusher> sorry i meant : every time i clicked in fullscreen it closed and it was normal sized mc again
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#2091 [10:57] <TheCrusher> will the fullscreen issue still appear when i installed java 6.30, or is that something different?
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#2093 [10:59] <Wug> GreyVulpine: is my new wugbot feature overly annoying
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#2096 [11:02] <mib_w1uo9o> Hello can I play regular mine craft on iPad
#2097 [11:02] <FbrAndy97> Hello, I have problem with my Minecraft!
#2098 [11:03] <tayyor> Okay, I've got the link on pastebin up. I'm slightly confused, though, where exactly is my browser's irc channel and where would I paste the link?
#2099 [11:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> tayyor this is the irc channel
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#2101 [11:04] <tayyor> Ohh, sorry.
#2102 [11:04] <Jeni> Hello can I install something to my iPad to play one raft regular version online instead of app?
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#2104 [11:05] <Jeni> I meant mine craft sorry!
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#2106 [11:06] <Wug> Jeni: there is no online minecraft for ipads or other mobile devices
#2107 [11:06] <Guest26441> Where does minecraft save any data files (maps, etc) (which folder on the hard drive)?
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#2109 [11:06] <Wug> Guest26441: %appdata%/.minecraft
#2110 [11:06] <Guest26441> thnx
#2111 [11:07] <Jeni> Thank you mine will not work on my old pc as I think it does not have capacity it moves in blocks and takes too long
#2112 [11:08] <FbrAndy97> Hello, I have a problem with my Minecraft. I can not log on minecraft.net ... I have Premium Minecraft account ... This is my video there i show my problem : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK4ahLTYOOY . Please help me !
#2113 [11:08] <onix> does not finish loading
#2114 [11:09] <tayyor> and... Nothing happened.
#2115 [11:09] <onix> after it starts to update it says error (4) null
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#2117 [11:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> onix - try disabling your antivirus
#2118 [11:10] <Jeni> Is there something I could upgrade to make it work?
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#2120 [11:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> i think the null error is to do with av
#2121 [11:10] <onix> ok ill try
#2122 [11:11] <Trinityman> Minecraft maintenence still wont let my log into some servers, even when its the day after
#2123 [11:11] <Jeni> Works but delayed in blocks not smooth movements
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#2125 [11:11] <onix> how do i disable it
#2126 [11:11] <TheCrusher> hi again
#2127 [11:12] * aaronkiller111_ [aaronkiller111_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2128 [11:12] <Trinityman> Im still getting the took to long to log in error, the day after the maintenance from team Mojang was scheduled
#2129 [11:12] <aaronkiller111_> help
#2130 [11:12] <aaronkiller111_> does anyone can give me a 1.1 server installer
#2131 [11:12] <aaronkiller111_> custom server
#2132 [11:12] <aaronkiller111_> pls
#2133 [11:13] <TheCrusher> im having a problem with fullscreen
#2134 [11:13] <TheCrusher> im having a problem with fullscreen
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#2137 [11:14] <aaronkiller111_> help
#2138 [11:14] <aaronkiller111_> does anyone haves a minecraft server
#2139 [11:14] <aaronkiller111_> custom
#2140 [11:14] <aaronkiller111_> i need 1 please
#2141 [11:14] <aaronkiller111_> give me 1
#2142 [11:14] <AureliusM> Trinityman: maintenance was yesterday, some servers may have there own problems
#2143 [11:14] <aaronkiller111_> the link not the
#2144 [11:14] <aaronkiller111_> XD...
#2145 [11:14] * Wug kicked aaronkiller111_ from #minecrafthelp (Reason: aronkiller111_ :aaronkiller111_)
#2146 [11:14] <Trinityman> right
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#2148 [11:15] <onix> help it not working and i dont know how to disable it
#2149 [11:15] <Trinityman> others are still able to connect tho
#2150 [11:15] <FbrAndy97> Hello, I have a problem with my Minecraft. I can not log on minecraft.net ... I have Premium Minecraft account ... This is my video there i show my problem : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK4ahLTYOOY . Please help me !
#2151 [11:15] <aaronkiller111_> help
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#2153 [11:15] <aaronkiller111_> i need custom server
#2154 [11:15] <aaronkiller111_> 1.1 version
#2155 [11:15] <TheCrusher> every time i left or right click in fullscreen it flashes and after a few clicks fullscreen mode closes
#2156 [11:15] <Trinityman> Other people are able to connect to a server that I cant because I still take "too long to log in" even after the maintenance
#2157 [11:16] <aaronkiller111_> please put me link not rar xd please put me link .
#2158 [11:16] <AureliusM> Trinityman: I've been checking a few 1.0 servers and they work, my 1.1 server works, but I'm looking for other 1.1 servers now
#2159 [11:16] <Wug> aaronkiller111_: you've asked several times, and have been answered
#2160 [11:16] <Wug> THERE ISNT ONE
#2161 [11:16] <onix> help please
#2162 [11:16] <aaronkiller111_> where
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#2164 [11:16] <Wug> now CALM THE F*CK DOWN
#2165 [11:16] <aaronkiller111_> Wug: ah ok
#2166 [11:16] <Wug> and wait for it to update
#2167 [11:16] <aaronkiller111_> how to put name red
#2168 [11:16] <AureliusM> Trinityman: Have you tried with an unmodded 1.1 client?
#2169 [11:16] <Jeni> Hello can anyone help with my question about being slow and moving in blocks can I upgrade something?
#2170 [11:17] <Jeni> A
#2171 [11:17] <Trinityman> No, the server im trying to connect to is 1.0.0
#2172 [11:17] <Jeni> Thank you
#2173 [11:17] <aaronkiller111_> hey fbrandy97
#2174 [11:17] <aaronkiller111_> it also happens to me
#2175 [11:17] <Trinityman> so it would be useless to try, cos it would give my the outdated server error
#2176 [11:17] <onix> hello anybody
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#2178 [11:18] <Jeni> For mine craft
#2179 [11:18] <AureliusM> Trinityman: I've PM'd you a 1.1 test server that should work
#2180 [11:18] <aaronkiller111_> het
#2181 [11:18] <aaronkiller111_> hey
#2182 [11:18] <Trinityman> Okay
#2183 [11:19] <aaronkiller111_> anyone can give me the minecraft 0.0.21a_01 version? i like try old versions
#2184 [11:19] <aaronkiller111_> because i started on 1.7.3 and i want view Old versions
#2185 [11:19] <aaronkiller111_> :(
#2186 [11:19] <Wug> aaronkiller111_ check the tos
#2187 [11:19] <Wug> distributing old versions is illegal
#2188 [11:19] <onix> wug: i dont know how to disable my antivirus
#2189 [11:19] <TheCrusher> to use older mc versions use a program like mcnostalgia
#2190 [11:19] <Jeni> Can anyone help me?
#2191 [11:19] <aaronkiller111_> whats the tos
#2192 [11:19] <AureliusM> ??> Trinityman smp/servers
#2193 [11:19] <VoxelHead> Trinityman: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2194 [11:19] <VoxelHead> Trinityman: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2195 [11:19] <aaronkiller111_> Wug whats the tos
#2196 [11:20] <AureliusM> Trinityman: About 10% of servers are running 1.1 when I checked
#2197 [11:20] <onix> wug help please
#2198 [11:20] <Wug> aaronkiller111_: http://www.minecraft.net/terms
#2199 [11:20] <Jeni> Help please
#2200 [11:20] <Wug> onix: do you know what antivirus software you have
#2201 [11:20] <TheCrusher> i have got a problem with fullscreen mode
#2202 [11:20] <Trinityman> Nope, im still getting the error
#2203 [11:20] <aaronkiller111_> Wug: Minecraft.net dont works for me
#2204 [11:20] <aaronkiller111_> Wug: Give me the version nowwwwwwwh i have
#2205 [11:20] <Wug> aaronkiller111_: whats your account name
#2206 [11:21] <Trinityman> its not letting me on
#2207 [11:21] <JohnEBH> Jeni- buy a new computer altogether rather than upgrade it.
#2208 [11:21] <aaronkiller111_> Wug: Diefordie33
#2209 [11:21] <Wug> !paid Diefordie33
#2210 [11:21] <aaronkiller111_> wug: i made it before the error happened
#2211 [11:21] <Jeni> What a bunch of jack holes!
#2212 [11:21] <Jeni> Bye bye
#2213 [11:21] <onix> wug avira
#2214 [11:21] <Wug> :win/avira
#2215 [11:21] <Wug> ;search avira
#2216 [11:21] <WugBot> Matches for "avira": avira
#2217 [11:21] <aaronkiller111_> !padi
#2218 [11:21] <aaronkiller111_> Wug: Whats !paid
#2219 [11:21] <Wug> :avira
#2220 [11:21] <WugBot> avira: To stop Avira from blocking Mincraft, please do the following:
#2221 [11:21] <WugBot> avira: Open Avira, open the Extras menu, and click Configuration. Then, set the switch to 'Expert' and open the 'Internet Protection' sub-menu, and open 'Web Protection', and then 'Scan'. Click 'Exceptions', and at 'URLs Skipped by Web Protection', enter 'http://s3.amazonaws.com/*', and click Add then Apply.
#2222 [11:21] <aaronkiller111_> !paid
#2223 [11:21] <onix> k
#2224 [11:21] <aaronkiller111_> yes
#2225 [11:21] <aaronkiller111_> i paid
#2226 [11:22] <Wug> aaronkiller111_: you need a break
#2227 [11:22] <aaronkiller111_> AuBot: i paid but it was on my mommy's pc
#2228 [11:22] <JohnEBH> !kick aaronkiller111_
#2229 [11:22] * AuBot kicked aaronkiller111_ from #minecrafthelp (Reason: aronkiller111_ :Uh oh! Looks like someone should have read the rules! (Issued by JohnEBH with reason: None given.))
#2230 [11:22] <onix> wug im at avira .com now wat
#2231 [11:23] <tayyor> http://pastebin.com/NjbDHTyW
#2232 [11:23] <Wug> onix: follot wugbot's directions
#2233 [11:24] <TheCrusher> JohnEBH: i've installed java 6.30 and the launcher works now!:D
#2234 [11:25] <TheCrusher> but the fullscreen mode doesn't work properly
#2235 [11:25] <TheCrusher> every time i left or right click in fullscreen it flashes and after a few clicks fullscreen mode closes
#2236 [11:26] <JohnEBH> TheCrusher- How much RAM do you have?
#2237 [11:26] <TheCrusher> 4 GB
#2238 [11:26] <onix> wugbot i dont know how to get to the extras menu
#2239 [11:27] <JohnEBH> TheCrusher- you're using f11 full screen right?
#2240 [11:27] <TheCrusher> yes
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#2242 [11:27] <JohnEBH> Wug- I love WugBot's new feature.
#2243 [11:27] <Herobrine> Wug: How do you type Bot on ur name???
#2244 [11:27] <JohnEBH> TheCrusher- Can you work with expanding the window?
#2245 [11:28] <TheCrusher> sure:D
#2246 [11:28] <Herobrine> Wug: give me the 0.0.21a_01 jar NOW!
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#2249 [11:29] <TheCrusher> i've got to go now but thanx for all of the support!:)
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#2253 [11:38] <JennieST> I'm having issues. When I load my client, it is now saying cannot connect to minecraft.net. I need assistance please.
#2254 [11:38] <JohnEBH> ??> JennieST Error/cantconnect
#2255 [11:38] <VoxelHead> JennieST: (error/cantconnect) Cannot connect to minecraft.net
#2256 [11:38] <VoxelHead> JennieST: (error/cantconnect) This error can occur for a number of reasons, including outdated java config, incorrect system time, or firewall issues. To fix it, make sure the system time is correct, check that java is allowed to access the internet, and if that fails, uninstall and reinstall java.
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#2258 [11:39] <JennieST> I will try the java install. THank you
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#2262 [11:44] <jfsalaba> hello?
#2263 [11:45] <JohnEBH> Hi there.
#2264 [11:45] <jfsalaba> um, my minecraft wont run properly
#2265 [11:45] <jfsalaba> ill download the launcher then when i try to play, itll say not downloaded
#2266 [11:46] <Wug> huh. oops
#2267 [11:46] <jfsalaba> ?
#2268 [11:46] <Wug> JohnEBH: you may have noticed
#2269 [11:46] <Wug> -WugBot/+#minecrafthelp- Herobrine (V32-03.opera-mini.net) is currently in this channel as ':herobrine', 'aaronkiller111_'.
#2270 [11:46] <JohnEBH> Hm? o.o
#2271 [11:46] <jfsalaba> oh noes
#2272 [11:46] <Wug> this was after aaronkiller111_ got kicked
#2273 [11:47] <Wug> I forgot to make it remove kicked people from the list
#2274 [11:47] <jfsalaba> well, kicked is different then ban right?
#2275 [11:47] <JohnEBH> Ohhh
#2276 [11:47] <JohnEBH> Well he's been silent... Meh
#2277 [11:47] <Wug> JohnEBH: hes not here now, I banned him
#2278 [11:47] <Wug> I really hope he evades it
#2279 [11:47] <JohnEBH> jfsalaba- Anyways, have you tried playing from browser?
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#2281 [11:47] <jfsalaba> it works there yes
#2282 [11:48] <Wug> hes an annoying pest and I'd love to get him klined
#2283 [11:48] <jfsalaba> but not if i download it
#2284 [11:48] <JohnEBH> lol K
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#2286 [11:48] <JohnEBH> jfsalaba- Not sure of what causes that, try disabling antivirus/firewall temporarily?
#2287 [11:48] <jfsalaba> i can try that quickly
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#2289 [11:49] <jfsalaba> it was already off
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#2291 [11:50] <JohnEBH> Eh?
#2292 [11:50] <jfsalaba> i checked, it was off
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#2294 [11:51] <jfsalaba> i made backups of my stuff and when i try to put it in the .minecraft folder, it wont update then either
#2295 [11:51] <JohnEBH> I don't know ><
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#2297 [11:51] <jfsalaba> :(
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#2299 [11:52] <jfsalaba> and yes, i did try force update
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#2301 [11:55] <jfsalaba> hello?
#2302 [11:55] * JohnEBH is idealess
#2302 [11:56] <jfsalaba> is now sad.
#2303 [11:56] <jfsalaba> ill go check the firewall again
#2304 [11:57] <jfsalaba> nope, still off
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#2306 [12:01] <jfsalaba> if it helps, i have a mod on that helps minecraft runs smoother, b/c w/o it i get about 8fps
#2307 [12:02] <JohnEBH> nah optifine should be fine
#2308 [12:02] <JohnEBH> Lol
#2309 [12:02] <jfsalaba> and clay soldiers mod
#2310 [12:02] <jfsalaba> and modloader
#2311 [12:02] <jfsalaba> and a minimap
#2312 [12:02] <Wug> jfsalaba: wont be able to make minecraft work with those mods
#2313 [12:02] <Wug> most of them (all of them?) are not updated for 1.1
#2314 [12:02] <jfsalaba> ill try ininstalling them
#2315 [12:02] <Wug> I think modloader is
#2316 [12:02] <JohnEBH> A mod within a mod
#2317 [12:02] <jfsalaba> so is toomanyitems
#2318 [12:03] <clarjon1> M O D C E P T I O N
#2319 [12:03] <clarjon1> JohnEBH: ;)
#2320 [12:03] <jfsalaba> you stole my line
#2321 [12:03] <Wug> JohnEBH: /part, /nick, /join
#2322 [12:04] <JohnEBH> What o.o
#2323 [12:04] <Wug> do those things
#2324 [12:04] <Wug> do those things
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#2327 [12:05] <Wug> you didnt do the /nick
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#2329 [12:06] <jfsalaba> restored the minecraft.jar
#2330 [12:06] <JohnEBH> >.>
#2331 [12:06] <jfsalaba> it looks like ill have to manually delete everything else
#2332 [12:08] <jfsalaba> ok, as far as i can tell, minecraft is totally vanilla now
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#2334 [12:09] <jfsalaba> i can play, but it wont let me join servers "login failed" and the fps sucks again
#2335 [12:10] <jfsalaba> and it still wont update
#2336 [12:10] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: does your bin/minecraft.jar have a META-INF ?
#2337 [12:10] <jfsalaba> hmm
#2338 [12:10] <jfsalaba> yes, both of them
#2339 [12:11] <jfsalaba> minecraft.jar and the 1.0.0 jar
#2340 [12:11] <jfsalaba> mcpatcher restored the .jar file for me
#2341 [12:12] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: Hmm, should work. Try upload bin/minecraft.jar to virustotal.com to get the hashsum and compare it against the vanilla 1.0 hashsum
#2342 [12:12] <jfsalaba> i guess
#2343 [12:13] <jfsalaba> nothing came up
#2344 [12:14] <jfsalaba> i have to go for now, but ill leave this running
#2345 [12:14] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: I uploaded my vanilla .jar to virustotal and hashsum is 136e3dd54454e96175badf50bee2cdebdab9e7d66fee4fd6d135f39ead99eb58
#2346 [12:14] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: virustotal isn't only for testing viruses, it gives a SHA256
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#2348 [12:15] <elfgirl> I've exhausted the forums and still cant get minecraft to run on my computer
#2349 [12:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? telepathic
#2350 [12:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> eh
#2351 [12:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? telepathy
#2352 [12:17] <VoxelHead> telepathy: We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#2353 [12:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> thats for you elfgirl
#2354 [12:17] <elfgirl> just waiting to see if anyone was there
#2355 [12:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> we wont usually answer unless you ask a question
#2356 [12:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> as theres nothing for us to do unless you ask#
#2357 [12:18] <elfgirl> I keep getting that bad vidio card driver error
#2358 [12:18] <elfgirl> but my drivers are upto date
#2359 [12:18] <elfgirl> I run vista
#2360 [12:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> tried reinstalling/updating java?
#2361 [12:19] <elfgirl> did that
#2362 [12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> =/
#2363 [12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> get a better os
#2364 [12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> but tahts a different convo
#2365 [12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> what java do you have?
#2366 [12:19] <elfgirl> ya i know
#2367 [12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> if its 7, then you need 6
#2368 [12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> 7 breaks mc
#2369 [12:19] <elfgirl> i've got 6
#2370 [12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? win/dxdiag
#2371 [12:19] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2372 [12:19] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2373 [12:20] * WhereIsMySpoon pokes voxel
#2373 [12:20] <elfgirl> k give me a min
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#2375 [12:23] <elfgirl> sorry it's taking my system a bit to complete the task
#2376 [12:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> np
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#2378 [12:25] <jake81201> Is everyone still having problems logging on after updating to 1.1?
#2379 [12:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> define everyone
#2380 [12:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> im not
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#2382 [12:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> in almost all cases , saying "everyone" will be a minority, as you do not have access to talk to every minecraft subscriber in the world
#2383 [12:27] * AureliusM had no problems from 1.0 to 1.1, nor with 1.1 server hosting and joining
#2383 [12:27] <jake81201> I updated on the 12th, when I try to log on to the empire server, it says "outdated server". Any suggestions?
#2384 [12:28] <JohnEBH> jake81201- MCNostalgia and rollback to 1.0
#2385 [12:29] <AureliusM> jake81201: or find a 1.1 server, there are a few
#2386 [12:29] <AureliusM> ??> jake81201 smp/servers
#2387 [12:29] <VoxelHead> jake81201: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2388 [12:29] <VoxelHead> jake81201: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2389 [12:29] <AureliusM> !check 173.15.60.241
#2390 [12:29] <elfgirl> k done
#2391 [12:30] <elfgirl> http://pastebin.com/5Ay07fRe
#2392 [12:30] <jfsalaba> im back
#2393 [12:30] <jake81201> k, thanks all, will try.....
#2394 [12:30] <jfsalaba> aureliusm, what were you saying about hashsums earlier?
#2395 [12:32] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: you can checksum any file to get its hashsum, and use that to compare against hashsums of known, good files.
#2396 [12:32] <jfsalaba> ?
#2397 [12:32] <jfsalaba> this is virustotal.com right?
#2398 [12:33] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: When you uploaded \bin\minecraft.jar to virustotal.com it should have reported SHA256: 136e3dd54454e96175badf50bee2cdebdab9e7d66fee4fd6d135f39ead99eb58 - did it?
#2399 [12:33] <jfsalaba> hmm
#2400 [12:33] <jfsalaba> ill try
#2401 [12:34] <jfsalaba> 136e3dd54454e96175badf50bee2cdebdab9e7d66fee4fd6d135f39ead99eb58
#2402 [12:34] <jfsalaba> looks the same
#2403 [12:34] <elfgirl> u there spoon?
#2404 [12:35] <jfsalaba> SHA:256
#2405 [12:35] <jfsalaba> so yes, its vanilla
#2406 [12:35] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: That's good. Well, the rest of your bin and other folders might have non vanilla stuff.
#2407 [12:35] <jfsalaba> i guess
#2408 [12:36] <jfsalaba> wats the minecraft1.0.0 hashsum
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#2410 [12:36] <Daedron3> hi i have a problem with minecraft
#2411 [12:36] <elfgirl> looks like spoon went idle. can anyone else help me?
#2412 [12:36] <jfsalaba> i got SHA256: 136e3dd54454e96175badf50bee2cdebdab9e7d66fee4fd6d135f39ead99eb58
#2413 [12:37] <elfgirl> I keep getting the bad video card error but my drivers are upto date
#2414 [12:37] <Daedron3> i have problems since the new update 1.1. my minecraft stand still by done loading and can't do anything. can anyone help me please.
#2415 [12:37] <jfsalaba> maybe its just old elfgirl
#2416 [12:37] <elfgirl> no I run more complicated games than mincraft
#2417 [12:38] <jfsalaba> idk though
#2418 [12:38] <elfgirl> here look http://pastebin.com/5Ay07fRe
#2419 [12:38] <jfsalaba> daedron, will yours not update?
#2420 [12:38] <Daedron3> i have the update but he stand still bij done loading
#2421 [12:39] <jfsalaba> idk elfgirl
#2422 [12:39] <jfsalaba> mine wont update at all
#2423 [12:39] <elfgirl> does minecraft have a tech support of its own
#2424 [12:39] <jfsalaba> i dont think so
#2425 [12:39] <jfsalaba> theres an faq
#2426 [12:39] <jfsalaba> but its kind of useless
#2427 [12:40] <jfsalaba> it just says to make sure all your drivers and stuff are updated
#2428 [12:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> woops
#2429 [12:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> sorry
#2430 [12:40] <elfgirl> oh hi spoon
#2431 [12:40] <jfsalaba> where is your spoon?
#2432 [12:40] <jfsalaba> lol, srry
#2433 [12:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> Driver Date/Size: 11/24/2006 23:34:34, 2494464 bytes
#2434 [12:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> 2006?
#2435 [12:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> you havent updated
#2436 [12:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> or it didnt install properly
#2437 [12:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> try again
#2438 [12:41] <elfgirl> there aren't any new updates
#2439 [12:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://download.cnet.com/ATI-RADEON-XPRESS-200M-Series/3000-2108_4-142962.html
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#2441 [12:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> dont listen to windows
#2442 [12:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> search on google urself
#2443 [12:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> windows is shite at updating drivers
#2444 [12:41] <jfsalaba> aureliusm, wats the hash sum for the 1.0.0 jar?
#2445 [12:41] <elfgirl> did but i'll try this
#2446 [12:42] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: Also, if you look inside /bin/md5s you'll see the MD5 hashes; You can check MD5 hashes using a Windows program like rehash; MD5 for minecraft.jar is 3820d222b95d0b8c520d9596a756a6e6; the SHA256 I already gave
#2447 [12:42] <jfsalaba> ok
#2448 [12:42] <jfsalaba> rehash?
#2449 [12:43] <jfsalaba> googles just coming up w/ useless crap
#2450 [12:44] <jfsalaba> im looking at the sourceforge.net page and i have no idea what im looking at
#2451 [12:44] <jfsalaba> http://rehash.sourceforge.net/rehash.html
#2452 [12:45] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: All this is unnecessary if you do 100% clean installs. I only check hashes to check nonone's trying to pass off malware as minecraft. For 100% clean install of 1.1 do this: http://pastebin.com/z6W2GTKz
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#2454 [12:45] <jfsalaba> thats wat im doing
#2455 [12:45] <jfsalaba> the .exe file is useless
#2456 [12:46] <jfsalaba> it makes the .minecraft floder w/ nothing in it
#2457 [12:46] <jfsalaba> so just do everything?
#2458 [12:50] <elfgirl> extracting files
#2459 [12:51] <jfsalaba> it didnt work, now it just says, minecraft not dowloaded even though theres still stuff in the folder
#2460 [12:51] <jfsalaba> i do have an error document from when minecraft crashed a week or so ago
#2461 [12:51] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: I'm testing a fresh exe file now, it's still downloading packages for me. But the jar and batch method allow better control of the memory use.
#2462 [12:54] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: My test of the exe is downloading files but very very slow.
#2463 [12:54] <jfsalaba> http://pastebin.com/SVfMz2iX
#2464 [12:54] <jfsalaba> theres the link to the .txt file the error left
#2465 [12:55] <jfsalaba> its the only time a crash of minecraft ever left something
#2466 [12:55] <jfsalaba> for me at least
#2467 [12:55] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: That error shows what looks like a ATI driver out of date or really old ATI chip: [awt.dll+0xb71e0] D3DVertexCacher
#2468 [12:56] <jfsalaba> idk what that is
#2469 [12:56] <jfsalaba> but minecraft ran fine after that until the update
#2470 [12:56] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: can you do a fresh dxdiag to check the graphics details?
#2471 [12:57] <jfsalaba> dxdiag?
#2472 [12:57] <AureliusM> ??> jfsalaba win/dxdiag
#2473 [12:57] <VoxelHead> jfsalaba: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2474 [12:57] <VoxelHead> jfsalaba: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2475 [12:57] <jfsalaba> srry, im not good w/ computers
#2476 [12:57] <jfsalaba> ok
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#2478 [12:57] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: dxdiag is DirectX Diagnostics from Microsoft
#2479 [12:58] <jfsalaba> ok, its working on it now
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#2483 [13:00] <sprocket> Can anyone help when i open my inventory in minecraft, it just crashes my laptop Help please?
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#2485 [13:00] <mcraftmom> anyone in here who can help me install mo creatures for minecraft 1.1 on a mac?
#2486 [13:01] <jfsalaba> http://pastebin.com/Ad9i9qWF
#2487 [13:01] <sprocket> nope sorry
#2488 [13:01] <sprocket> try searching on utube
#2489 [13:01] <jfsalaba> one sec
#2490 [13:01] <sprocket> kk
#2491 [13:01] <mcraftmom> there are so many different versions of how to do it, I have been working on it for two hours, follwed 2 diff set of directions, minecraft keeps crashing with some kind of java error but the error goes away too fast
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#2493 [13:02] <sprocket> ok what the problem is your putting something in the wrong directory
#2494 [13:03] <sprocket> do you have Modloader1.1 ??
#2495 [13:03] <sprocket> and make sure to delete META-INF
#2496 [13:03] <mcraftmom> is there anywhere that lists what should be in what directory?
#2497 [13:03] <sprocket> ill try find one for you
#2498 [13:03] <sprocket> brb
#2499 [13:03] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: Ok, your dxdiag shows 32 bit Windows 7 and AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics should be Ok
#2500 [13:03] <jfsalaba> that sounds about right
#2501 [13:04] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: but today Minecraft hangs at the update? Have you tried clicking the Not Now button?
#2502 [13:04] <jfsalaba> thats the thing, the update now/not now thing isnt showing up
#2503 [13:05] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: are there any hs_err_pid files more recent than January 8?
#2504 [13:05] <jfsalaba> no, thats the only one
#2505 [13:05] <jfsalaba> ill check though
#2506 [13:06] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: what messages were in the black command window when you tried these instructions: http://pastebin.com/z6W2GTKz
#2507 [13:06] <jfsalaba> ill have to try it again
#2508 [13:06] <mcraftmom> sprocket: this is the site I used for directions but had to modify because the video didn't correlate with what downloaded from the second site. First site for video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S3qGZOyP_s second site: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/81771-v100-mo-creatures-v31-with-goats-jellyfish-mantarays-and-stingrays/
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#2510 [13:06] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: use a brand new testfull folder, don't use one with stuff already in it from before
#2511 [13:06] <sprocket> Does anyone know how to fix minecraft crashing when opening inventory in survival ?
#2512 [13:07] <jfsalaba> ok
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#2516 [13:11] <jfsalaba> it says not downloaded
#2517 [13:11] <jfsalaba> and login failed
#2518 [13:11] <mcraftmom> yo what up
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#2520 [13:11] <jfsalaba> the command window says that it could find the lastlogin file though
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#2522 [13:12] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: can you copy all the messages in the black command window into a pastebin? The lastlogin one is normal
#2523 [13:12] <jfsalaba> sure
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#2525 [13:13] <jfsalaba> its not letting me copy paste, i have to type it all out
#2526 [13:13] <Fabian> Guys Im having a Java.net.socketException error all the time when I play minecraft
#2527 [13:13] <Fabian> Anyone knows how to fix it (Also getting time outs in IRC)
#2528 [13:13] <Fabian> but not in any other games.
#2529 [13:13] <Fabian> test
#2530 [13:13] <Fabian> Hmmz, no time-out yet
#2531 [13:13] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: wait
#2532 [13:14] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: you right mouse click the top left corner in the black window and use the Edit sub menu
#2533 [13:14] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: So, you right click, click Edit , click select all, click Edit click Copy
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#2536 [13:15] <Fabian> Guys Im having a Java.net.socketException error all the time when I play minecraft
#2537 [13:15] <Fabian> Anyone knows how to fix it (Also getting time outs in IRC)
#2538 [13:15] <Fabian> but not in any other games.
#2539 [13:15] <AureliusM> recap: works in browser, downloaded launcher reports not downloaded, antivirus and firewall off, fresh install from minecraft.net/download into "testfull" reports not downloaded
#2540 [13:16] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: sorry that recap: was for me and you
#2541 [13:16] <man> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 2012-01-14 19:
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#2544 [13:16] <Fabian> fuck sake
#2545 [13:16] * AuBot kicked Fabian from #minecrafthelp (Reason: abian :Please keep it civil.)
#2546 [13:16] <man> help?
#2547 [13:16] <AureliusM> Fabian: I read your report, this happens with all servers?
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#2549 [13:17] <Fabian> rofl
#2550 [13:17] <AureliusM> man: please use pastebin
#2551 [13:17] <AureliusM> ??> man pastebin
#2552 [13:17] <VoxelHead> man: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2553 [13:17] <AureliusM> Fabian: I read your report, this happens with all servers?
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#2555 [13:17] <Fabian> Could someone try to answer me before Im timing out again?
#2556 [13:17] <AureliusM> ??> Fabian patience
#2557 [13:17] <VoxelHead> Fabian: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#2558 [13:17] <VoxelHead> Fabian: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#2559 [13:18] <Fabian> I know I know
#2560 [13:18] <Fabian> Its just pritty annoying that Im having time outs all the time and if my questions is getting answered that I can't see it.
#2561 [13:18] <AureliusM> Fabian: Please give some system specs, Windows? Computer model? Internet connection?
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#2563 [13:19] <AureliusM> Fabian: What exactly you are running, minecraft version, mods or not, which servers you have tried.
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#2565 [13:20] <Fabian> test
#2566 [13:21] <Fabian> .
#2567 [13:21] <AureliusM> oh
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#2569 [13:22] <Fabian> -.-'
#2570 [13:22] <Fabian> this is not gonna work anyways
#2571 [13:22] <Fabian> getting to many time outs
#2572 [13:22] <jfsalaba> http://pastebin.com/Q6Hv2HAf
#2573 [13:22] <AureliusM> Fabian: Too many timeouts? Using Wifi?
#2574 [13:22] <jfsalaba> that took forever
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#2576 [13:22] <jfsalaba> hes out again
#2577 [13:22] <jfsalaba> and now hes back in
#2578 [13:23] <AureliusM> Fabian: Problem is likely your internet connection. Your computer time is correct though.
#2579 [13:23] <Fabian> Well
#2580 [13:23] <Fabian> that's weird since Im not having time outs at any other games
#2581 [13:24] <jfsalaba> aureliusm, do you remember the hs_err_pid file i had? it looks like i used to have another one, but i deleted it
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#2583 [13:24] <Fabian> Everything what runs at Java is giving me time outs
#2584 [13:24] <jfsalaba> maybe you should update java
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#2586 [13:24] <Fabian> Im at Teamspeak at Minecraft at the same time, why do I get time outs at Minecraft and not at Teamspeak?
#2587 [13:25] <Fabian> at = and
#2588 [13:25] <AureliusM> jfsalaba:apart from tha lastlogin there are no java errors there. Did Minecraft hang completely and you had to force quit it with Ctrl Alt Del?
#2589 [13:25] <jfsalaba> no, i quit the by clicking the X button
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#2591 [13:26] <jfsalaba> what if i put the 1.1 file into the bin an renamed it? would that work?
#2592 [13:26] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: Ok, and as before Minecraft did not even get to display anything, not even the Update now screen?
#2593 [13:26] <jfsalaba> it displayed the login scren, but it wouldnt let me play
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#2595 [13:27] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: manually fiddling with the /bin/ will likely not help
#2596 [13:27] <jfsalaba> it said something about a scheduled update/maintinence thing, but that was yesterday and its still there
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#2598 [13:28] <Fabian> Well thanks for the help anyways, will try to fix it myself.
#2599 [13:29] <jfsalaba> wait, can i get the hashsum for the total of the .minecraft folder? then compare it against a vanilla? (minus the saves and the server.dat)
#2600 [13:29] <sprocket> hi
#2601 [13:29] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: and replying to your Q on whether I remember hs_err_pid files, No
#2602 [13:29] <jfsalaba> well, there this one:http://pastebin.com/SVfMz2iX
#2603 [13:29] <jfsalaba> but it looks like there used to be another one
#2604 [13:29] <jfsalaba> its gone now
#2605 [13:30] <jfsalaba> hs_err_pid3392
#2606 [13:30] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: you could, but I think there's something else going on, since that testfull procedure should create a 100% clean install. Java is 6 right? And antivirus firewall off? And nothing wierd in the HOSTS file? and Windows user name does not contain a "!" - I'm going through most of a checklist here
#2607 [13:31] <jfsalaba> ill check java
#2608 [13:31] <jfsalaba> no the username doesnt have a "!", the firewall is off and im checking java
#2609 [13:32] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: try this batch whish shows some environment variable values (you can blank out the username from the output after): http://pastebin.com/LKcPCPW6
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#2611 [13:33] <jfsalaba> ok, since, i cant find which java i have, im updating it
#2612 [13:33] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: put those lines into a file named show.bat and put that file into the testfull folder
#2613 [13:33] <jfsalaba> ok, the one w/ everythig else?
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#2615 [13:33] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: yes, this batch only echoes about 5 lines, nothing else
#2616 [13:34] <kermit> can you install minecraft on a mac?
#2617 [13:34] <jfsalaba> ok
#2618 [13:34] <jfsalaba> yes, kermit, you can
#2619 [13:34] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: With antivirus and firewall off have you scanned your PC?
#2620 [13:34] <siluro> Hello, I was wondering if I could get some help with my minecraft server... I'm running Ubuntu and have everything running (I've also setup on Windows). People can join and the default port is open, but after about 20 minutes or so everyone gets disconnected, including myself on my own network. Any ideas?
#2621 [13:34] <kermit> ty
#2622 [13:35] <jfsalaba> aurelius, should i start typeing what showed up?
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#2624 [13:35] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: paste it into pastebin, and you can blank the user name parts,
#2625 [13:36] <jfsalaba> ok, but the command window has no copy option :(
#2626 [13:36] <jfsalaba> typeing it is
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#2628 [13:37] <AureliusM> siluro: not used Ubuntu, I've only guesses, wait here though maybe someone will have some
#2629 [13:37] <siluro> Aureliusm: Thanks sure thing.
#2630 [13:37] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: -> To copy from black command window: you right mouse click the top left corner in the black window and use the Edit sub menu
#2631 [13:37] <siluro> Aureliusm: Also happens with my windows based server.
#2632 [13:39] <AureliusM> siluro: I've seen a similar report on the forum but the users got disconnected about 1 minute after the hoster left his own server. Difficult to troubleshoot, check network isn't losing packets? ISP? Antimalware overkeen?
#2633 [13:39] <dr_bibble> it says it is unable to input stream for twjgl_applet.jar.pack What should I do?
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#2635 [13:40] <jfsalaba> its not working, the copy thing b/c i already have something on clipboard
#2636 [13:40] <AureliusM> siluro: back in 1.3 and 1.5 network disconnects were very common, but I've not seen one in 1.0 or 1.1 yet
#2637 [13:40] <siluro> Aureliusm: Doubt its malware since it was a fresh install. Network may be losing packs I have comcast and it hasn't been the most reliable, but it never comes back on after it shuts down.
#2638 [13:41] <guacamole> how can i get more than 10 FPS? this is making me unable to even move around in the game!
#2639 [13:41] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: Create text file named notes.txt and put the clipboard contents there.
#2640 [13:41] <jfsalaba> i have it, it worked now
#2641 [13:41] <jfsalaba> http://pastebin.com/6bUTDqEk
#2642 [13:41] <dr_bibble> Is there a link or something where I can fix this problem?
#2643 [13:41] <jfsalaba> oh well, for got to blank out username
#2644 [13:41] <AureliusM> siluro: You are trying the 1.1 server with no mods? Does it happen with 1.0 server?
#2645 [13:41] <guacamole> how can i get a better FPS?
#2646 [13:42] <jfsalaba> optifine is the way guacamole
#2647 [13:42] <jfsalaba> if its been updated
#2648 [13:42] <AureliusM> guacamole: drop graphics to fast, rendr distance to normal or short
#2649 [13:42] <siluro> Aureliusm: I actually haven't done 1.1 yet, but 1.0 was bad no mods at all.
#2650 [13:42] <guacamole> i have and i only get 1 FPS!!
#2651 [13:42] <jfsalaba> what do you have on your cpu?
#2652 [13:43] <guacamole> what do u mean?
#2653 [13:43] <jfsalaba> like ram and stuff, b/c my brothers laptop is better then mine but i run minecraft better
#2654 [13:43] <jfsalaba> idk why though
#2655 [13:43] <dr_bibble> NVM I'm not going to play Minecraft....
#2656 [13:43] <guacamole> i have a 4 gb ram?
#2657 [13:43] <jfsalaba> whoa
#2658 [13:43] <AureliusM> siluro: 1.8.1 server (I can't remember if I tried that myself) ?
#2659 [13:43] <jfsalaba> java is updated?
#2660 [13:44] <guacamole> its on java 7
#2661 [13:44] <jfsalaba> 7? i thought it went up to 6
#2662 [13:44] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: java not there, and I've not seen QTJava.zip before
#2663 [13:44] <siluro> Aureliusm: Haven't done 1.8.1 on the linunx based server, but windows I was also having the same issue.
#2664 [13:44] <guacamole> no 7
#2665 [13:44] <jfsalaba> thats wat showed up
#2666 [13:44] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: No, use Java 6. Java 7 gives no end of problems.
#2667 [13:44] <jfsalaba> im using java 6
#2668 [13:45] <guacamole> i dosent make a difference
#2669 [13:45] <guacamole> its running on a brand new laptop(win 7)
#2670 [13:46] <jfsalaba> 7 is probably more glitchy if it just came out
#2671 [13:46] <guacamole> ok
#2672 [13:46] <jfsalaba> also, your ram is alot better then mine and i get around 8fps on the same settings
#2673 [13:46] <jfsalaba> idk why cpus are so complicated
#2674 [13:47] <guacamole> but i have done everything to get a better FPS but nothing works
#2675 [13:47] <jfsalaba> like, tiny rendering and everything?
#2676 [13:47] <guacamole> yes
#2677 [13:47] <jfsalaba> let me check something
#2678 [13:47] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: Check there is a java.exe file at this folder: C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin
#2679 [13:47] <guacamole> everything
#2680 [13:47] <jfsalaba> ok
#2681 [13:48] <AureliusM> ?? getjava
#2682 [13:48] <VoxelHead> getjava: http://www.java.com/en/download/
#2683 [13:48] <guacamole> i have the bin folder now what?
#2684 [13:48] <AureliusM> That shows Java 6. Please avoid Java 7.
#2685 [13:48] <jfsalaba> guacamole, wait a few days and check for the optifine update to 1.1
#2686 [13:48] <guacamole> every time i put optifine on it gives me a black screen
#2687 [13:48] <guacamole> no matter what i do..
#2688 [13:49] <jfsalaba> mcpatcher?
#2689 [13:49] <guacamole> yes
#2690 [13:49] <AureliusM> guacamole: what jfsalaba says is right, but give us your computer specs to see what can be tweaked: CPU, RAM in GB
#2691 [13:49] <jfsalaba> also, aureliusm there is a file called java (applicable extension)
#2692 [13:49] <jfsalaba> that it?
#2693 [13:49] <AureliusM> guacamole: Start with a clean Minecraft and get that working before adding mods
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#2695 [13:50] <jfsalaba> thats what ive been doing
#2696 [13:50] <guacamole> i have no mods or texture packs on at the min
#2697 [13:50] <jfsalaba> it wont work vanilla either
#2698 [13:50] <jfsalaba> i only have texture packs
#2699 [13:50] <jfsalaba> and a custom skin
#2700 [13:50] <jfsalaba> no mods @ all
#2701 [13:51] <guacamole> do i need mc patcher even thogh i dont have mods?
#2702 [13:51] <jfsalaba> you dont need it, but it improves some textures
#2703 [13:51] <hatman> Hey, mine minecraft messed up while trying to execute the recent update. Now it says "Failed to launch - Fatal error (4)
#2704 [13:51] <jfsalaba> which would probably slow it down more
#2705 [13:52] <jfsalaba> i use it to install mods, usually works
#2706 [13:52] <guacamole> it couldnt go slower i sometimes get o FPS!
#2707 [13:52] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: Ok, there should be java.exe and javaw.exe. Edit the show.bat file you made and change the java command to look like (quotes included): "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -version
#2708 [13:52] <jfsalaba> ok
#2709 [13:53] <jfsalaba> thats the one thats says echo java home right?
#2710 [13:53] <AureliusM> guacamole: wait before modding. Do a dxdiag so we can look: instructions follow
#2711 [13:53] <AureliusM> ??> guacamole win/dxdiag
#2712 [13:53] <VoxelHead> guacamole: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2713 [13:53] <VoxelHead> guacamole: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2714 [13:53] <AureliusM> guacamole: If you are running Wndows, that is.
#2715 [13:54] <jfsalaba> ill run the show.bat file now
#2716 [13:54] <jfsalaba> idk what im seeing but ill post it
#2717 [13:54] <AureliusM> hatman: that might be because of Firewall or antivirus restrictions
#2718 [13:55] <guacamole> hatman delete the roaming,.minecraft folder, then launch minecraft and force update this will replace all of the .minecraft files and it will work!
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#2720 [13:55] <jfsalaba> i tried the force update, it doesnt work
#2721 [13:56] <jfsalaba> http://pastebin.com/UfnReHNQ
#2722 [13:56] <jfsalaba> here, aureliusm
#2723 [13:56] <guacamole> force update always works..
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#2725 [13:57] <jfsalaba> where it says **rogram Files is supposed to be Program Files, i just failed at deleting
#2726 [13:57] <jfsalaba> force update isnt for me though
#2727 [13:58] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: Ok that's Java 6. and it's in C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\, which is normal.
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#2729 [13:58] <keret> hi everyone i'm new to minecraft and every time i start it is a blackscrenn in the window
#2730 [13:58] <jfsalaba> mhm
#2731 [13:58] <jfsalaba> wat are your cpu specs
#2732 [13:58] <keret> premium member original
#2733 [13:58] <jfsalaba> ram, processor and stuff
#2734 [13:58] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: Can you edit the run.bat now, and change the java line there to look like: "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2735 [13:58] <keret> wIT A MOMENT
#2736 [13:58] <jfsalaba> ok
#2737 [13:59] <hatman> thank you for the suggestion, but it is still freezing during the update process
#2738 [13:59] <AureliusM> keret: Are you using Windows?
#2739 [14:00] <hatman> Yes
#2740 [14:00] <hatman> windows 7
#2741 [14:00] <guacamole> if you have one do theforce update when plugged into a static landline
#2742 [14:00] <keret> amd quad 3.60 ghz 8gb ram ati radeon 6450
#2743 [14:00] <guacamole> can someone help me get good FPS?
#2744 [14:01] <keret> aurelius im using win7 64-bit
#2745 [14:01] <AureliusM> hatman: ok, that was for keret, but could you tell us which firewall and antivirus you are running?
#2746 [14:01] <AureliusM> ??> keret win/dxdiag
#2747 [14:01] <VoxelHead> keret: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2748 [14:01] <VoxelHead> keret: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2749 [14:01] <hatman> oh, sorry bout that, but AVG
#2750 [14:01] <AureliusM> keret: please follow Voxelhead's instructions to do a dxdiag
#2751 [14:02] <jfsalaba> http://pastebin.com/hJP6sgxG
#2752 [14:02] <AureliusM> hatman: no problem, um AVG, can you check the options there to see if it allows java.exe and javaw.exe and minecraft.exe to run, and also to allow them to access minecraft.net and s3.amazonaws.com
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#2754 [14:03] <AureliusM> hatman: If that's not possible or too tricky, please temporarily disable AVG and retry minecraft
#2755 [14:03] <AureliusM> hatman: .... and then re-enable AVG afterwards
#2756 [14:04] <hatman> ok, but it was working before the update with it on
#2757 [14:05] <jfsalaba> wait, is everyone having problems w/ the update? other then guacamole
#2758 [14:05] <hatman> look like
#2759 [14:05] <guacamole> i dont have update issues i have really bad FPS issues
#2760 [14:05] <jfsalaba> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTCH
#2761 [14:05] <hatman> looks like*, yes
#2762 [14:05] <keret> voxelhead here is the linkl http://pastebin.com/gJNrJFV5
#2763 [14:06] <jfsalaba> aureliusm, http://pastebin.com/hJP6sgxG
#2764 [14:06] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: I just noticed your windows username has spaces, that might be the problem; can you create a new windows porfile and try a minecraft install there? Instructions follow.
#2765 [14:06] <jfsalaba> i guess
#2766 [14:06] <jfsalaba> i didnt set it up, dad did
#2767 [14:07] * guacomole [guacomole@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2768 [14:07] <guacomole> hi
#2769 [14:07] <jfsalaba> also, what would username spaces do?
#2770 [14:07] <guacomole> anyone help me with FPS Problems
#2771 [14:07] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: Ok, instructions will follow a bit later, for now can you find the run.bat that launched the minecraft?
#2772 [14:07] * keret [keret@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2773 [14:07] <jfsalaba> which one?
#2774 [14:08] <jfsalaba> i still have all the links and the file
#2775 [14:08] <guacomole> to what?
#2776 [14:08] <keret> voxelhead what is now
#2777 [14:08] <VoxelHead> Then.
#2778 [14:08] <keret> hä
#2779 [14:09] <hatman> Thank you, AureliusM, got it
#2780 [14:09] <keret> link ishttp://pastebin.com/gJNrJFV5
#2781 [14:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol
#2782 [14:09] <jfsalaba> guacamole, i have an idea. drop all the settings then try using a simple texture pack, like OCD or Tronic if they've been updated
#2783 [14:10] <guacomole> ok i will try brb!
#2784 [14:10] <jfsalaba> gl
#2785 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> keret: your GPU driver is very old.
#2786 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> ??> keret gpu/amd
#2787 [14:10] <VoxelHead> keret: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#2788 [14:10] <keret> i'm downloADING THIS MOMENT
#2789 [14:11] <keret> shit this capslock get's on my nervers
#2790 [14:11] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: back after reading up, make a new folder according to these instructions: http://pastebin.com/rbi9gdbV
#2791 [14:11] <jfsalaba> i have a feeling that aureliusm is starting to have trouble keeping up w/ everyone, no offense
#2792 [14:11] <jfsalaba> ok
#2793 [14:11] <jfsalaba> i can use the .jar i downloaded earlier right?
#2794 [14:12] <jfsalaba> one sec, or two
#2795 [14:13] <AureliusM> Yes, I am having trouble keeping up.
#2796 [14:13] <guacomole> how come i now dont have a minecraft 1.1 file in my bin after i updated?
#2797 [14:13] <AureliusM> hatman: the update changes programs on your disk, and antivirus programs watch for that
#2798 [14:14] <AureliusM> hatman: have you tried diabling AVG and retrying?
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#2800 [14:15] * mib_nxwdyo [mib_nxwdyo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2801 [14:15] <mib_nxwdyo> can i have help?
#2802 [14:15] <keret> ok thanks for your helb but i need morre kb/s to download faster
#2803 [14:15] <keret> help sry
#2804 [14:16] <mib_nxwdyo> who can help?
#2805 [14:16] <jfsalaba> copy paste is failing again, might be a minute
#2806 [14:16] <TheDiamondGuy> jfsalaba can u help me?
#2807 [14:16] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: Well, I always download fresh copies. And make really sure you are using the minecraft.jar LAUNCHER and not the /bin/ file with the same name.
#2808 [14:16] <keret> nobody just said good bye
#2809 [14:16] <jfsalaba> the icon right?
#2810 [14:16] * TheDiamondGuy needs ned
#2810 [14:17] <TheDiamondGuy> .
#2811 [14:17] <AureliusM> keret: no problem, downloading drivers can take a long time, just wait for it to finish
#2812 [14:17] * TheDiamondGuy needs help
#2812 [14:17] <hatman> yes, but I also had some issues with my router.
#2813 [14:17] <jfsalaba> what do you need diamondguy?
#2814 [14:17] <TheDiamondGuy> well i can't connect to mc servers
#2815 [14:17] <jfsalaba> connections okay?
#2816 [14:17] <TheDiamondGuy> yes
#2817 [14:17] <TheDiamondGuy> i think
#2818 [14:18] <jfsalaba> check
#2819 [14:18] <TheDiamondGuy> :show
#2820 [14:18] <jfsalaba> check the internet strength and the servers connection
#2821 [14:18] <TheDiamondGuy> how :S
#2822 [14:18] <TheDiamondGuy> sos im puzzld:s
#2823 [14:19] <TheDiamondGuy> *puzzled
#2824 [14:19] <AureliusM> hatman: Ok, router may also be blocking ports, but I don't think that can cause that fatal error. Somehow make sure the system is not blocking access to minecraft.net and s3.amazonaws.com
#2825 [14:19] <jfsalaba> go to the multiplayer list and try to join
#2826 [14:19] <AureliusM> TheDiamondGuy: Multiplayer servers you mean?
#2827 [14:19] <TheDiamondGuy> can't comnect to any
#2828 [14:19] <TheDiamondGuy> yes
#2829 [14:20] <jfsalaba> what does it say when you try
#2830 [14:20] <TheDiamondGuy> can't reach server every server i te=ry does that
#2831 [14:20] <TheDiamondGuy> try
#2832 [14:20] <AureliusM> TheDiamondGuy: Most servers are still on 1.0, if you are trying with 1.1 try : 173.15.60.241
#2833 [14:20] <jfsalaba> the exact message
#2834 [14:20] <jfsalaba> good point
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#2836 [14:21] <jfsalaba> bukkit still hasnt updated
#2837 [14:21] <TheDiamondGuy> can't reach that server
#2838 [14:21] <AureliusM> !check 173.15.60.241
#2839 [14:21] <jfsalaba> aureliusm http://pastebin.com/dq8DMwDn
#2840 [14:21] <TheDiamondGuy> i did
#2841 [14:21] <mib_iczn80> how can i get optifine with out getting the 'Black Screen'?
#2842 [14:21] <TheDiamondGuy> i can't reach the server
#2843 [14:21] * AureliusM launched MC to check again
#2843 [14:21] <jfsalaba> its not 1.1 yet Aubot
#2844 [14:21] <jfsalaba> it says cant reach server?
#2845 [14:22] <TheDiamondGuy> yes
#2846 [14:22] <AureliusM> !check 173.212.204.170
#2847 [14:22] <jfsalaba> either its down or your having the same problems as everyone else.
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#2849 [14:22] <mib_iczn80> anyone know any good anti-lag software?
#2850 [14:22] <jfsalaba> stupid update
#2851 [14:22] <AureliusM> TheDiamondGuy: try : 173.212.204.170
#2852 [14:22] <jfsalaba> optifine when it updates
#2853 [14:22] <jfsalaba> aureliusm, heres the link http://pastebin.com/dq8DMwDn
#2854 [14:22] <mib_iczn80> when will it updata?
#2855 [14:23] <jfsalaba> idk check the forum page
#2856 [14:23] <TheDiamondGuy> that syas can reach srever ar
#2857 [14:23] <jfsalaba> ?
#2858 [14:23] <jfsalaba> wats the ar?
#2859 [14:24] <AureliusM> ?? smp/servers
#2860 [14:24] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2861 [14:24] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2862 [14:24] <TheDiamondGuy> ignore that what i mean is i says can't reach server
#2863 [14:24] <jfsalaba> VoxelHead, that server is up right?
#2864 [14:24] <AureliusM> For 1.1 servers, you need to check several until you find one that is 1.1, most are still 1.0
#2865 [14:24] <jfsalaba> the 172.212.204.170
#2866 [14:24] <AureliusM> ?? bot
#2867 [14:24] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#2868 [14:25] <AureliusM> !check 173.212.204.170
#2869 [14:25] <TheDiamondGuy> i can't reach that sersver jf
#2870 [14:25] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: It's up, I've been in and out of there most of the day
#2871 [14:26] <jfsalaba> ?is Aubot a bot? he just typed the exact same thing twice
#2872 [14:26] <jfsalaba> nvm
#2873 [14:26] <jfsalaba> i still have the link if you want it aureliusm
#2874 [14:27] <hello> I JUST WANT SERVERS TO WORK FOR ME!
#2875 [14:27] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: Ok, the run.bat with the full java file path? You pasted the output?
#2876 [14:27] <jfsalaba> thats what popped up
#2877 [14:28] <jfsalaba> http://pastebin.com/dq8DMwDn
#2878 [14:28] <AureliusM> hello: Are you using 1.1 Minecraft?
#2879 [14:28] <hello> yes
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#2881 [14:28] <jfsalaba> diamondguy, most of the servers arent working for me either, only my friends are
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#2883 [14:28] <jfsalaba> or hello anyway
#2884 [14:29] <hello> ok i was one one today now its gone?
#2885 [14:29] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: Ok, same error; let's try a new windows profile now, instructions from VoxelHead:
#2886 [14:29] <jfsalaba> ok
#2887 [14:29] <AureliusM> ??> jfsalaba win/profile
#2888 [14:29] <VoxelHead> jfsalaba: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2889 [14:29] <Floris> Guys, why i get this all the time Java.net.socketException and when i get this im timing out all the time
#2890 [14:29] <VoxelHead> jfsalaba: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2891 [14:29] <hello> anyways brb
#2892 [14:29] <jfsalaba> ok
#2893 [14:29] <jfsalaba> make a new user?
#2894 [14:29] <jfsalaba> w/ no spaces
#2895 [14:29] <jfsalaba> ok
#2896 [14:30] <Floris> What do i need to do if i get his Java.net.socketException?
#2897 [14:30] <AureliusM> hello: most servers are still on 1.0, few are on 1.1. You need to wait for your favourite server to get updated.
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#2899 [14:31] <jfsalaba> ok, im going to try to run minecraft on the new user
#2900 [14:31] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: yes no spaces, keep name simple alphabetical characters othing strange
#2901 [14:31] <jfsalaba> ok
#2902 [14:31] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: *nothing strange
#2903 [14:31] <jfsalaba> will copy paste carry over between usernames?
#2904 [14:31] <AureliusM> Floris: When does this message appear?
#2905 [14:32] <Floris> when i join a Server i can play for a few secs and than i get this and need to join again the server
#2906 [14:32] <jouster500> ok i need to downgrade minecraft and i got the file izip patchs and copied the 1.0 rc2 file and replaced that patch with the original one and i tryed to play minecraft 1.0 but it didn't finish loading: just froze.... what did i do wrong since im still new to this?
#2907 [14:32] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: Um, probably best to paste all text into a file common to both users, in a shared directory.
#2908 [14:33] <AureliusM> Floris: Has this problem started recently? And which version of Minecraft are you running?
#2909 [14:33] <jouster500> 1.1 final to 1.0 final
#2910 [14:33] <jouster500> and im not sure
#2911 [14:33] <jouster500> i just did it
#2912 [14:33] <Floris> no i already got it long and im now playing on 1.0.0
#2913 [14:34] <jouster500> no the 1.0 final
#2914 [14:34] <AureliusM> jouster500: If Options Force Update and deleting all folders except /saves/ in %APPDATA%/.minecraft did not work, try this: http://pastebin.com/z6W2GTKz
#2915 [14:35] <jouster500> and do what with that link? i probably didn't do tge app data thing
#2916 [14:35] <jouster500> twait
#2917 [14:35] <jouster500> thats the folder for minecraft right?
#2918 [14:35] <AureliusM> jouster500: The APPDATA thing keeps minecraft away from your default minecraft. But if that fails, and you've tried reinstalling Java 6, we'll need to look deeper
#2919 [14:36] <AureliusM> jouster500: No
#2920 [14:36] <AureliusM> jouster500: Make the testfull folder far away from the default folder (which is %APPDATA%/.minecraft).
#2921 [14:37] <AureliusM> jouster500: The instructions say to make the folder on your desktop.
#2922 [14:37] <jouster500> no im trying to downgrade... not update
#2923 [14:38] <AureliusM> jouster500: Are you sure? The problem is probably fixable with a clean install? But, google McNostalgia and follow the minecraftforum thread
#2924 [14:39] <jouster500> k
#2925 [14:40] <jouster500> wait a sec i downloaded the patchs zip folder
#2926 [14:40] <AureliusM> Floris: sorry, so all servers time out for you?
#2927 [14:40] <jouster500> do i need mcnoastlagia?
#2928 [14:40] <AureliusM> jouster500: We cannot help with mods or with McNostalgia here, if you use it see the forum.
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#2930 [14:41] <jouster500> .............no..... not what i said i downloaded the patchs zip folder
#2931 [14:41] <jfsalaba> hello?
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#2933 [14:41] <AureliusM> jouster500: We can try to help you get a clean 1.1 install, but unless you made backups, 1.0 will not be possible, officially.
#2934 [14:41] <Floris> yes i got it whit all servers
#2935 [14:41] <jouster500> noooooooooooooooooooo i want the 1.0 version
#2936 [14:42] <jfsalaba> aurelium and VoxelHead, i downloading minecraft again
#2937 [14:42] <AureliusM> jouster500: Did you make a backup?
#2938 [14:42] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: on the news Windows profile?
#2939 [14:42] <jfsalaba> yes
#2940 [14:42] <jouster500> like another version of the minecraft 1.0 update seperately?
#2941 [14:42] <jfsalaba> i for got my password and optimum is slow today for me
#2942 [14:43] <jouster500> i have this folder...
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#2944 [14:43] <AureliusM> jouster500: ? I only know of beta 1.8.1, Release 1.0 and Release 1.1, others between those were prereleases. There is no 1.0 available officially.
#2945 [14:43] <jfsalaba> trying it now
#2946 [14:44] <Lykkepillen> Will NPC Villagers despawn? And how much CPU/RAM will it take to run let's say.. 50 of em
#2947 [14:44] <jouster500> the 1.0 relase and the folders being stupid wit meh
#2948 [14:45] <AureliusM> jouster500: Either you made a backup of the older Minecraft versions or you did not. If Windows, did you use Windows backup at any time after November say?
#2949 [14:45] <jfsalaba> THANK THE LORD
#2950 [14:45] <jfsalaba> it works
#2951 [14:45] <jfsalaba> thanks so much guys
#2952 [14:45] * AureliusM claps
#2952 [14:45] <jouster500> for gods sakes i told you i have a folder with all the patchs
#2953 [14:45] <jfsalaba> bows
#2954 [14:46] <jouster500> i need to know what went wrong ^
#2955 [14:46] <AureliusM> jfsalaba: Ok, it might have been the user name, but it might be the new profile is nice and clean.
#2956 [14:46] <jfsalaba> server.dat is the server list right?
#2957 [14:46] <jfsalaba> ok
#2958 [14:46] <jfsalaba> i dont care, so long as it works
#2959 [14:46] <AureliusM> jouster500: what patches? McNostalgia patches? I cannot help there.
#2960 [14:47] <jouster500> no izip
#2961 [14:47] <jfsalaba> oh yeah, does mcnostalgia work for 1.1?
#2962 [14:47] <jouster500> or something like that
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#2964 [14:47] <AureliusM> jouster500: Did you install the minecraft prereleases into their own folders away from %APPDATA%/.minecraft ?
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#2966 [14:48] <jouster500> no i downloaded patchs.zip
#2967 [14:48] <jfsalaba> thanks guys
#2968 [14:48] <jfsalaba> i never would have figured this out, simple as it was
#2969 [14:48] <Floris> When i will get helped again?
#2970 [14:49] <jouster500> apparently holds all the patchs
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#2972 [14:49] <AureliusM> Floris: you still there? I forgot about you.
#2973 [14:49] <mib_dy0sne> Does anyone know why when i try to log on a black window pops up says it's loading then the window loads all the way turns black and stays that way?
#2974 [14:49] <jouster500> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/284331-tool-mc-downgrader-the-time-machine-for-minecraft/
#2975 [14:49] <Floris> xD yes
#2976 [14:49] <jouster500> this was the place where i got the patchs.zip file and i followed the manuel instructions
#2977 [14:50] <|Kiikun|> um... we usually sugest mcnostalgia
#2978 [14:50] <jouster500> your joking right?
#2979 [14:51] <|Kiikun|> ?? oldversion
#2980 [14:51] <mib_dy0sne> How do i play? the login just ends up witha black screen?
#2981 [14:51] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=113094
#2982 [14:51] <jouster500> k
#2983 [14:51] <AureliusM> Floris: timing out after a few seconds, ok, can you find a hs_err_pid file with th efull error log?
#2984 [14:52] <jouster500> ok so will this link send me back to the last version?
#2985 [14:52] <Floris> kk i will search but need to do now a little thing brb
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#2987 [14:52] <Floris> and btw where i need to search?
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#2989 [14:53] <gamakichi> I am hosting a server from my computer and someone else in my house is using the default address and can't connect
#2990 [14:53] <jouster500> will it work?
#2991 [14:53] <AureliusM> Floris: If running in browser on Windows turn error logging like this: click Start click Control Panel double click Java, click Advanced tab, click Java console and clcik Show Console so the circle is filled (selected)
#2992 [14:54] <AureliusM> Floris: If running the standalone minecraft.exe , there should be a file whose name starts with hs_err_pid, you would use Windows search to search, starting at folder C:\
#2993 [14:55] <Floris> kk thx brb
#2994 [14:55] <minecraft_guest93738> when i open minecraft it dissapears???? i cant just play it ( its a disaster)
#2995 [14:55] <AureliusM> Floris: If none of these shows errors, you need to try this: http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#2996 [14:56] <AureliusM> mib_dy0sne: Antivirus and firewall need to allow java to access minecraft.net and s3.amazonaws.com
#2997 [14:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> gz ^^
#2998 [14:58] <jouster500> ok downloaded the nostalgia but step 2 and 3 confuse me
#2999 [14:58] <jouster500> and 4 for that matter
#3000 [14:59] <AureliusM> minecraft_guest93738: Did you download minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/download ?
#3001 [14:59] * AureliusM doesn't understand ChanServ
#3001 [15:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> someone gave you it through cs, aur :)
#3002 [15:00] <jouster500> what now?
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#3004 [15:01] <jouster500> pr better yet in nostaligia should i extract all? and what exactly a i extracting?
#3005 [15:01] <minecraft_guest74797> could someone say the pastebin thing in swedish
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#3007 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> "the pastebin thing in Sweedish".
#3008 [15:02] <mib_zjq26o> Hi Guyz
#3009 [15:03] <Floris> But AureliusM, If i do this it will be fixed?
#3010 [15:03] * mib_e36az0 [mib_e36az0@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3011 [15:03] <minecraft_guest74797> yes
#3012 [15:03] <jouster500> so no help?
#3013 [15:03] <AureliusM> Floris: maybe, a lot of the time it's firewall blocking minecraft, but there may be other causes
#3014 [15:04] <minecraft_guest74797> my mc dessapears when i open my world
#3015 [15:04] <AureliusM> Floris: ignore my last about firewall,
#3016 [15:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> < ?? pastebin
#3017 [15:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? < pastebin
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#3019 [15:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> goddamit
#3020 [15:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?? < index
#3021 [15:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> eh
#3022 [15:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> amidoinitwrong
#3023 [15:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> ??< pastebin
#3024 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> ??> WhereIsMySpoon help
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#3026 [15:05] <VoxelHead> WhereIsMySpoon: (help) To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#3027 [15:05] <VoxelHead> WhereIsMySpoon: (help) For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
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#3029 [15:05] <AureliusM> Floris: disconnects might be Java, might be internet service, hard to tell without the error log
#3030 [15:05] <Floris> kk
#3031 [15:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> why isnt anything happening
#3032 [15:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh
#3033 [15:05] <Floris> im now trying that link
#3034 [15:06] <minecraft_guest74797> that sucks
#3035 [15:06] <ShAmAn9999> Hi all,How I can change my email ?
#3036 [15:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> my client is just taking ages to give me the responses
#3037 [15:07] <AureliusM> Floris: we really need more details, first would be the error log, then we'd check java 6 is installed, then other things
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#3039 [15:09] <AureliusM> minecraft_guest74797: have you tried Minecraft in the browser? Premium account?
#3040 [15:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> he quit AureliusM
#3041 [15:10] <AureliusM> Oh yes, I keep missing that
#3042 [15:11] <AureliusM> ShAmAn9999: see http://www.minecraft.net/support but the answer tthere is "We apologize but we do not currently support this action, for your protection."
#3043 [15:11] <AureliusM> oh he quit too
#3044 [15:12] * AureliusM is here half the time only for next 30 minutes, preparing my supper
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#3045 [15:13] <ShAmAn9999> Hi all! Can you help me ?
#3046 [15:13] <ShAmAn9999> How I can change my e-mail ?
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#3048 [15:16] <xxxLukass123xxx> how do i downgrade my minecraft?
#3049 [15:16] <xxxLukass123xxx> i want a clear minecraft.jar
#3050 [15:16] <Scott> Unless you made a backup, you can't.
#3051 [15:17] <Scott> It is illegal to distribute Minecraft files.
#3052 [15:17] <xxxLukass123xxx> yeah i know
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#3055 [15:23] <onix> i bought the minecraft game on xmas for $26+ and never was able to download the game but my credit card was charged. help me fix it, or if i can't get it then i want a refund
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#3057 [15:25] <mib_qpad76> when i go into the game a message pops up that minecraft is out of memory and I tried getting rid of things bet it didn't work PLEASE HELP!! I LOVE THIS GAME!!!
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#3059 [15:26] <AureliusM> mib_qpad76: Are you using Windows?
#3060 [15:26] <mib_qpad76> yes
#3061 [15:26] <AureliusM> ??> mib_qpad76 win/dxdiag
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#3063 [15:26] <VoxelHead> mib_qpad76: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3064 [15:26] <VoxelHead> mib_qpad76: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3065 [15:27] <AureliusM> mib_qpad76: Follow VoxelHead's instructions to get the details of your system
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#3067 [15:27] <Sulph8> !admin
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#3069 [15:29] <Morrolan> What is it, Sulph8?
#3070 [15:29] <Morrolan> Just ask your question and soemone will come back to you if needed.
#3071 [15:29] <Sulph8> Hi
#3072 [15:29] <Morrolan> No need to throw around with queries ;)
#3073 [15:29] <Sulph8> My minecraft wont work
#3074 [15:29] <Sulph8> I try load it up
#3075 [15:29] <Sulph8> and it doesnt load
#3076 [15:29] <Sulph8> I tried reinstalling
#3077 [15:30] <Morrolan> Did it ever work before?
#3078 [15:30] <Sulph8> Yes
#3079 [15:30] <Morrolan> Did you install any mod or similar since then?
#3080 [15:30] <Sulph8> Nope
#3081 [15:30] <Morrolan> Ok. How did you reinstall Minecraft?
#3082 [15:30] <Sulph8> on the website
#3083 [15:30] <Sulph8> I clicked download
#3084 [15:30] <mib_qpad76> what do I do after I save to the desktop?
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#3086 [15:31] <Morrolan> Ah, let's try something different then, Sulph8. Start Minecraft and click on "options" (above login). THen select "Force update" and log in to Minecraft as usual.
#3087 [15:31] <Morrolan> mib_qpad76 - Read VoxelHead's instructions again, they tell you what to do afterwards.
#3088 [15:31] <Sulph8> It doesnt let me do that
#3089 [15:32] <Morrolan> How so, Sulph8?
#3090 [15:32] <Sulph8> do you have teamviewer? it would be alot easier
#3091 [15:32] <Sulph8> The actual program doesnt load up at all
#3092 [15:32] <Morrolan> Ah, ok. Are you on Windows, Mac or Linux?
#3093 [15:32] <Sulph8> Windows 7 64 bit
#3094 [15:32] <Morrolan> ??> Sulph8 win/reinst
#3095 [15:32] <VoxelHead> Sulph8: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3096 [15:32] <VoxelHead> Sulph8: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3097 [15:32] <Morrolan> Follow VoxelHead's instructions then. :)
#3098 [15:33] <Morrolan> And yea, I do have TV, but I'd prefer doing it over IRC as long as possible.
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#3100 [15:35] <Sulph8> Still doesn't load up..
#3101 [15:36] <vicki142> just purchased minecraft and can't get it to download
#3102 [15:36] <Sulph8> Morrolan, it still doesn't work.
#3103 [15:37] <Morrolan> Meh, inconvenient, to say the least. Especialyl since it suddendly stopped working. Ok then, let's try to get it to spit out an error.
#3104 [15:37] <Morrolan> I guess now's the time for TeamViewer, easier that way. *sigh*
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#3106 [15:38] <AureliusM> vicki142: Is Minecraft hanging while it is downloaidng packages? If not, please describe what you see.
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#3108 [15:43] <vicki142> no i am at the home screen and it says in browser and download i have tried both and it looks like it is downloading but i cant find anything
#3109 [15:45] <vicki142> no i am at the home screen and it says in browser and download i have tried both and it looks like it is downloading but i cant find anything
#3110 [15:45] <AureliusM> vicki142: Ok, no error messages in browser or in a file named has_err_pid on your computer? The downloaded minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/download launches and you can login but the download progress bar stops?
#3111 [15:47] <AureliusM> vicki142: If the progress bar stops, your antivirus and firewall maybe blocking java and minecraft. Do you know how to check?
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#3114 [15:48] <Liamers> hey is it possible to revert the 1.1 update if I play via browser?
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#3116 [15:48] <AureliusM> ??> Liamers oldversion
#3117 [15:48] <VoxelHead> Liamers: (oldversion) The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#3118 [15:48] <vicki142> no
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#3120 [15:49] <AureliusM> vicki142: What antivirus and firewall do you have?
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#3122 [15:50] <Liamers> windows firewall on recommended and I don't have an anti-virus installed atm
#3123 [15:50] <Liamers> oh nvm
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#3126 [15:52] <AureliusM> vicki142: Whichever you have, temporarily disable them and try Minecraft again. Then re-enable them both afterwards.
#3127 [15:53] <vicki142> mcafee personal firewall
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#3129 [15:54] <Floris> Aureliusm Thx ist working
#3130 [15:54] <Floris> but
#3131 [15:55] <Floris> Is it possible to play minecraft whit Mycraft now or not?
#3132 [15:55] <AureliusM> Floris: Not working? The run.bat give any errors? Um, is Mycraft a mod?
#3133 [15:56] <AureliusM> Floris: We don't support mods here. If your 1.0 was modded that would explain why you could not update.
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#3135 [15:57] <AureliusM> vicki142: I've never used mcafee personal firewall, and so this guide may not be up to date, but see if it helps: http://www.leeindy.com/firewall_mcafee_exit-1.shtml
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#3137 [15:58] <Floris> yeah its a mod where you need to start it whit up but do i need to start it always whit that minecraft.jar whit that Notepad file?
#3138 [15:59] <AureliusM> Floris: The best we can do its suggest you use Options Force Update in the minecraft.exe, that might work, or if not you need to delete all files except the /saves/ folder in %APPDATA%/.minecraft
#3139 [16:00] <vicki142> it just came up to the downloading screen so i will see what happens
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#3141 [16:03] <AureliusM> Floris: Um, I am unclear, the run.bat launches Minecraft you can login and play as normal?
#3142 [16:04] <Floris> yes
#3143 [16:05] <AureliusM> Floris: did minecraft ask whether you wanted to update?
#3144 [16:05] <Floris> yes but im not gonna update
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#3146 [16:06] <mib_80nroa> i need help
#3147 [16:06] <Floris> till Buckit releasd
#3148 [16:06] <AureliusM> Floris: and whe you try multiplayer servers does it report disconnect errors? In the black command window?
#3149 [16:06] <mib_80nroa> i've been hacked
#3150 [16:06] <mib_80nroa> and i can't find my recept id
#3151 [16:06] <mib_80nroa> where can i find that?
#3152 [16:07] <Floris> no all is working fine now
#3153 [16:07] <mib_80nroa> hello?
#3154 [16:07] <AureliusM> mib_80nroa: In your email inbox? If you paid with PayPal your paypal account should have a history of transactions.
#3155 [16:07] <mib_80nroa> i'll check
#3156 [16:07] <mib_80nroa> ...
#3157 [16:07] <mib_80nroa> wtf?
#3158 [16:07] <mib_80nroa> it's not there....
#3159 [16:07] <mib_80nroa> hmmm
#3160 [16:07] <AureliusM> Floris: Oh, but you get disconnects with the minecraft.exe application? The only difference between that and the run.bat method is run.bat uses less memory.
#3161 [16:08] <AureliusM> Floris: ... and keeps the error messages in the black window
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#3163 [16:08] <mib_80nroa> nope
#3164 [16:08] <mib_80nroa> not there, sigh
#3165 [16:08] <AureliusM> mib_80nroa: How did you pay?
#3166 [16:08] <mib_80nroa> why do i get hacked so often?
#3167 [16:08] <Floris> if i start it whit the .bat then its working fine but i didnt try whit the minecraft.exe
#3168 [16:08] <mib_80nroa> i think by paypal
#3169 [16:09] <mib_80nroa> but it might have been sending money through mail
#3170 [16:09] <AureliusM> mib_80nroa: Eh?
#3171 [16:09] <mib_80nroa> during beta 1.4
#3172 [16:09] <mib_80nroa> yeah
#3173 [16:09] <vicki142> now it is asking me if i want to update and when i said yes it only went to 80%. so i tried not updating it and it got almost to the end and stoped
#3174 [16:09] <mib_80nroa> that's what it said....
#3175 [16:09] <mib_80nroa> maybe i remember wrong
#3176 [16:10] <mib_80nroa> it was along time ago
#3177 [16:10] <AureliusM> mib_80nroa: For account and payment problesm it's best to go to http://www.minecraft.net/support
#3178 [16:10] <mib_80nroa> anyway, it won't send my pass to my e-mail
#3179 [16:10] <AureliusM> mib_80nroa: *problems
#3180 [16:11] <mib_80nroa> i did that, though
#3181 [16:11] <AureliusM> vicki142: Did you disable mcafee?
#3182 [16:12] <mib_80nroa> i don't use mfafee
#3183 [16:12] <mib_80nroa> mcafee
#3184 [16:12] <AureliusM> ??> mib_80nroa only/you
#3185 [16:12] <VoxelHead> mib_80nroa: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#3186 [16:12] <VoxelHead> mib_80nroa: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#3187 [16:12] <mib_80nroa> yes
#3188 [16:13] <AureliusM> Floris: Try the minecraft.exe, if the disconnect problem returns there, then it may be memory related
#3189 [16:13] <mib_80nroa> aurelius i really want my acc back
#3190 [16:13] <mib_80nroa> aureliusm i need help, how do i change where the eamil will go to?
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#3192 [16:14] <AureliusM> ??> mib_80nroa accounts
#3193 [16:14] <mib_80nroa> because it's not showing up in my box
#3194 [16:14] <VoxelHead> mib_80nroa: (accounts) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#3195 [16:14] <mib_80nroa> do i have to be logged on?
#3196 [16:14] <mib_80nroa> because that's the problem
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#3198 [16:15] <mib_80nroa> you see, my friend bought the game, and didn't like it, so he gave the acc to me
#3199 [16:16] <mib_80nroa> but he failed to change the email
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#3201 [16:16] <AureliusM> mib_80nroa: did you follow the support menu choice hacked? Select Account then hacked.
#3202 [16:16] <mib_80nroa> yes
#3203 [16:16] <CoolAEW> Does Minecraft have a deal with Zugco?
#3204 [16:16] <mib_80nroa> but I don't have the recept code
#3205 [16:17] <mib_80nroa> my friend does, and I can't get ahold of him for a month
#3206 [16:17] <vicki142> yes
#3207 [16:17] <mib_80nroa> he's on vacation
#3208 [16:17] <CoolAEW> How do you know vicki?
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#3210 [16:17] <mib_80nroa> this is really irritating, because i really liked playing on this server I found
#3211 [16:18] <mib_80nroa> and I can't play on the server or update untill I get my acc back
#3212 [16:18] <AureliusM> mib_80nroa: you will need the receipt or transaction id for mojang to do anything, search your mail history, try to remember how you paid. There's not anything we can do about this othjer than direct you there.
#3213 [16:18] <mib_80nroa> jkabpiwgfobesgvkugroiugapr
#3214 [16:18] <mib_80nroa> AARGHH!
#3215 [16:18] <bing> Hello, I'm getting an error that says " Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers." When I try to log in.
#3216 [16:18] <mib_80nroa> this sucks
#3217 [16:18] <mib_80nroa> stupid hacker
#3218 [16:18] <CoolAEW> Bing, Update your drivers
#3219 [16:19] <mib_80nroa> ihave HIS eamil address
#3220 [16:19] <mib_80nroa> but i can't get to the activation email
#3221 [16:19] <mib_80nroa> sigh
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#3223 [16:19] <bing> I've tried, but I can't seem to find which driver is installed on my computer. It's a dell desktop that's a few years old.
#3224 [16:19] <AureliusM> vicki142: After disabling McAfee, minecraft still does not finsih downloading? Ok did you install Java 6 ?
#3225 [16:20] <CoolAEW> Try the control paner
#3226 [16:20] <CoolAEW> panel*
#3227 [16:20] <mib_oh5ayw> grey vulpine
#3228 [16:20] <CoolAEW> Anyone directly from Mojang here?
#3229 [16:21] <bing> It only shows the resolution and desktop settings.
#3230 [16:21] <AureliusM> vicki142: To see which java you have, click Start or Run click Control Panel double click the java icon and click the About button
#3231 [16:21] <CoolAEW> Try to go to the Properies and then drivers
#3232 [16:21] <CoolAEW> Wich OS?
#3233 [16:21] <mib_oh5ayw> i need help pleas
#3234 [16:21] <AureliusM> bing: You could do a dxdiag to get driver details:
#3235 [16:22] <AureliusM> ??> bing win/dxdiag
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#3238 [16:22] <VoxelHead> bing: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3239 [16:22] <VoxelHead> bing: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3240 [16:22] <AureliusM> bing: If Windows that is.
#3241 [16:22] <AureliusM> bing: If Windows that is.
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#3243 [16:22] <bing> Will do.
#3244 [16:23] <mib_oh5ayw> need help
#3245 [16:23] <AureliusM> bing: And please if you have problem with any step.
#3246 [16:23] <AureliusM> ??> mib_oh5ayw specific
#3247 [16:23] <VoxelHead> mib_oh5ayw: (specific) Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#3248 [16:23] <VoxelHead> mib_oh5ayw: (specific) NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#3249 [16:23] <vicki142> java 6
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#3251 [16:24] <mib_oh5ayw> ok my minecraft crashes when i open it openlg problem
#3252 [16:24] <AureliusM> vicki142: Ok, does your windows name have any strange characters, such as "!" in it?
#3253 [16:24] <bing> http://pastebin.com/QHybzHaY
#3254 [16:25] <vicki142> no
#3255 [16:26] <AureliusM> vicki142: Ok, did you try launching Minecraft and clicking Options then Force Update?
#3256 [16:26] <vicki142> when i click on the in browser button it takes me to another screen that is blank with minecraft at the top and nothing else happens
#3257 [16:26] <mib_oh5ayw> it says this java (TM)platform sebinary has stopped working
#3258 [16:26] <bing> Now what?..
#3259 [16:27] <lukegb> ??> mib_oh5ayw win/dxdiag
#3260 [16:27] <VoxelHead> mib_oh5ayw: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3261 [16:27] <VoxelHead> mib_oh5ayw: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3262 [16:27] <bing> Sorry for being so uneducated about the situation, I just bought the game and haven't been able to play yet.
#3263 [16:27] <mib_oh5ayw> how do i fine that
#3264 [16:28] <AureliusM> bing: DxDiag reports you have no graphics card, just the default vga.dll - can you check the devices from I think it's device manager: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283658
#3265 [16:28] <StEugen> how do u upgrade minecraft?
#3266 [16:29] <StEugen> to the 1.1 version?
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#3268 [16:30] <StEugen> how do i uprg
#3269 [16:31] <StEugen> how do i upgrade to the latest minecraft version 1.1
#3270 [16:31] <AureliusM> vicki142: Try downloading the launcher instead, instructions follow:
#3271 [16:31] <AureliusM> ??> vicki142 client
#3272 [16:31] <AureliusM> ??> vicki142 win/client
#3273 [16:31] <VoxelHead> vicki142: (win/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#3274 [16:31] <StEugen> thank you
#3275 [16:31] <AureliusM> vicki142: Try downloading the launcher from that link above ^^
#3276 [16:32] <mib_oh5ayw> http://pastebin.com/SDm6dGsd
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#3278 [16:32] <mib_oh5ayw> 0K
#3279 [16:32] <StEugen> do i have to be a premium member for it to work?
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#3281 [16:34] <mib_oh5ayw> know what
#3282 [16:34] <AureliusM> bing: I cannot find what graphics card or chip is in that Dell DXC051, I'm looking for a way to find out
#3283 [16:35] <StEugen> do i have to be a premium member to uprgade minecraft ?
#3284 [16:35] <bing> Thanks for helping me, everyone.
#3285 [16:35] <bing> I really appreciate it.
#3286 [16:36] <StEugen> ?????? do i have to buy minecraft to upgrade it?
#3287 [16:36] <mib_oh5ayw> is enyone going to help me
#3288 [16:37] <frogaincia> My son was updating Minecraft and now his screen says "Updating Complete Download Complete" but the screen is frozen and we can see the download progress bar shows that it looks like id dint complete???
#3289 [16:37] <frogaincia> it didnt
#3290 [16:37] <StEugen> how do u uprgade it in the first place?
#3291 [16:37] <AureliusM> bing: Can you download the program GLView ? That will report what graphics card is on that machine. See http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/
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#3294 [16:39] <StEugen> ??????? how do u upgrade minecraft ????
#3295 [16:39] <StEugen> ???????????????????????????????????????????????????
#3296 [16:40] <AureliusM> StEugen: launch minecraft and click options force upgrade
#3297 [16:40] <lemon-rev> steugen you can update two ways, you can delete the bin folder or you can force update
#3298 [16:40] <mib_q8irie> i need help my minecraft crashs openlg help
#3299 [16:40] <AureliusM> StEugen: *click options click force update*
#3300 [16:40] <StEugen> do i have to be a premium member
#3301 [16:40] <StEugen> ?
#3302 [16:40] <AureliusM> StEugen: yes
#3303 [16:40] <lemon-rev> it would help
#3304 [16:40] <StEugen> thanks
#3305 [16:41] <lemon-rev> mib_q8irie dude, what os win/ mac / linux ?
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#3307 [16:42] <AureliusM> frogaincia: ok, check antivirus and firewall are not blocking java or minecraft
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#3309 [16:43] <frogaincia> minecraft is on a macbook pro - would making sure java is updated help?
#3310 [16:43] <AureliusM> frogaincia: If that's unclear, try disabling both temporarily and retrying minecraft - click options click force update, and then re-eanable both afterwards
#3311 [16:44] <AureliusM> frogaincia: Yes, Java 6 should be installed. All other Java should be uninstalled
#3312 [16:45] <mib_q8irie> i need help my minecraft crashes
#3313 [16:45] <lemon-rev> mib_q8irie dude, what os win/ mac / linux ?
#3314 [16:45] <frogaincia> it was fine this morning. weird..ok aee what i can do.
#3315 [16:45] <mib_q8irie> windows vista
#3316 [16:45] <AureliusM> frogaincia: I don't know macs, but I know it must be Java 6. Any mac-specific errors - wait for a Mac expert here
#3317 [16:45] <frogaincia> ok
#3318 [16:45] <lemon-rev> ??> mib_q8irie win/dxdiag
#3319 [16:45] <VoxelHead> mib_q8irie: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3320 [16:45] <VoxelHead> mib_q8irie: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3321 [16:46] <lemon-rev> follow vox mib_q8irie
#3322 [16:46] <mib_q8irie> i got it already http://pastebin.com/SDm6dGsd
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#3324 [16:46] <bing> Downloading now.
#3325 [16:47] <mohawk> my minecraft world has been crashing how can i fix it?
#3326 [16:47] <mib_q8irie> now what voxelhead
#3327 [16:47] <lemon-rev> mib_q8irie give me a sec
#3328 [16:47] <bing> Okay, I have the viewer up.
#3329 [16:47] <mib_q8irie> ok
#3330 [16:48] <lemon-rev> mib_q8irie is that a 32-64bit ? version
#3331 [16:48] <AureliusM> bing: Ok, it should show details of the card if any, also under OpenGL there should be a number
#3332 [16:49] <mohawk> hello?
#3333 [16:49] <lemon-rev> ?? ask
#3334 [16:49] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3335 [16:49] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3336 [16:49] <mib_q8irie> i dont know how do i check?
#3337 [16:49] <lemon-rev> mib_q8irie k
#3338 [16:49] <bing> Version: 1.1 Driver Version: 0.00.000
#3339 [16:49] <mohawk> my minecraft world has been crashing how can i fix it?
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#3341 [16:49] <bing> That was the text under the OpenGL section.
#3342 [16:49] <vicki142> this still isn't working is there anything else i can try
#3343 [16:50] <lemon-rev> mib_q8irie http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx < please download and run that
#3344 [16:50] <lemon-rev> vicki can you tell me what the prob was and what you have presently tryed ?
#3345 [16:50] <AureliusM> bing: 1.1 is too low for the OpenGL needed by Minecraft. But did that desktop ever have a real graphics card inside?
#3346 [16:50] <mib_q8irie> download faild
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#3348 [16:51] <mib_q8irie> pk its a 32bit
#3349 [16:51] <lemon-rev> mib_q8irie try a different broswer please
#3350 [16:51] <mohawk> ??
#3351 [16:51] <mib_q8irie> its working sorry about that
#3352 [16:51] <Nemiland> can anyone help? i got fatal error(5):White error
#3353 [16:51] <frogaincia> Any Mac users have issues downloading update for Mac
#3354 [16:51] <lemon-rev> mib_q8irie http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English < try that one now then
#3355 [16:51] <bing> Not that I'm aware of.
#3356 [16:52] <lemon-rev> Nemiland what you mean by white error please
#3357 [16:52] <mib_q8irie> ok its working now
#3358 [16:52] <AureliusM> vicki142: Ok, we'll need more details, can you do a dxdiag?
#3359 [16:52] <lemon-rev> mib_q8irie whats working the file or mc ?
#3360 [16:52] <AureliusM> ??> vicki142 win/dxdiag
#3361 [16:52] <VoxelHead> vicki142: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3362 [16:52] <VoxelHead> vicki142: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3363 [16:52] <Nemiland> it says An error occured while loading the outlet
#3364 [16:52] <Nemiland> Fatal error occured (5):White error
#3365 [16:53] <lemon-rev> Nemiland can you copy and paste the error into pastebin.com and give us the link please
#3366 [16:53] <Nemiland> oh Write error
#3367 [16:53] <mib_q8irie> what know di i do the installation
#3368 [16:53] <vicki142> the only thing that i have been able to do is pay for the game i've been working on this for a couple hours now and haven't even got to see what the game looks like
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#3370 [16:54] <Nemiland> i dont know how
#3371 [16:54] <mib_q8irie> voxxelhead custom/exprees
#3372 [16:54] <mohawk> can anyone help?? i asked my question twice.
#3373 [16:55] <lemon-rev> mib all you said was it crashed how and what do you see
#3374 [16:55] <AureliusM> bing: Can you try Msinfo32.exe to get information on the graphics of the desktop? Click Start or Run and type Msinfo32.exe and press the enter key
#3375 [16:55] <lemon-rev> bah, mowhawk sorry
#3376 [16:55] <mib_q8irie> voxelhead custom or exprees
#3377 [16:55] <AureliusM> bing: More instructions are here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308549
#3378 [16:55] <AureliusM> bing: More instructions are here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308549
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#3380 [16:56] <mib_q8irie> aurellusm what know
#3381 [16:57] <AureliusM> vicki142: Could you give details of your system? teh DxDiag would help, but we need to know CPU, Memory, Graphics card, and driver date
#3382 [16:57] <mib_q8irie> ok what now
#3383 [16:57] <Nemiland> http://pastebin.com/Xi3zH0ue
#3384 [16:57] <AureliusM> vicki142: Can you press the Windows key and the R keys on the keyboard at the same time?
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#3387 [16:58] <vicki142> http://pastebin.com/1ikmPpaF
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#3389 [16:58] <skippydippy> anyone nees help?
#3390 [16:58] <lemon-rev> Nemiland did the game work before ?
#3391 [16:59] <bing> There are only Kernel and File System drivers
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#3393 [16:59] <bing> So I guess I need to download a video driver. Any idea where I should begin to look? o.o
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#3395 [17:00] <AureliusM> bing: Well you need to find out the video card or chipset details first.
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#3400 [17:00] <mib_q8irie> hello
#3401 [17:00] <AureliusM> bing: DxDiag just give blank, and msinfo says nothing? In mine it shows under Components - Display
#3402 [17:01] <war87> can anyone help me with mods
#3403 [17:01] <mib_q8irie> help me pleas you left me hanging
#3404 [17:02] <mib_q8irie> why isint no one help me o my god >:
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#3406 [17:02] <AureliusM> mib_q8irie: I think lemon-rev was handling you? But I'll look at your pastebin now
#3407 [17:02] <bing> My Display section is completely empty. The website you directed me to said to go under Software Environment and then to System Drivers/
#3408 [17:03] <mib_q8irie> ok
#3409 [17:04] <AureliusM> mib_q8irie: Last I saw lemon-rev pointed you to http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English - did you install that ok?
#3410 [17:04] <mib_q8irie> yes it works know do you know how you downgarde
#3411 [17:05] <war87> if anyone can help my problem is i have tryed to play the tale of kingdoms mod i have followed the instructions for both mod loader and the tale of kingdoms but when every i try to run minecraft with tale of kingdoms it say cant be loaded and crashes to fast for me to look at any thing when i dont have it in it runs fine with mod loader and i dont have any other mods in
#3412 [17:06] <AureliusM> bing: Ok, so msinfo agrees with DxDiag that you have no display adapters. Strange. What is the history of this desktop? It should have an adapter, could someone have removed it?
#3413 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> bing - You're running a Intel® 82945G Express video chipset. Please download the drivers for it from: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=16835&ProdId=2301&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20%20Home%20Edition*&DownloadType=Drivers
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#3415 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> war87 - We do not assist with mods here. Ask the person who made the mod for help
#3416 [17:06] <war87> ok thank you
#3417 [17:06] <monkiwrench> hey i need help my minecraft crashed
#3418 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> monkiwrench - How does it crash?
#3419 [17:07] <monkiwrench> i was playing then the screen sad it justed crashed
#3420 [17:07] <monkiwrench> isaid i mean
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#3422 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> monkiwrench - Got any error reports?
#3423 [17:07] <mib_q8irie> greyvulpine how do you get .0.0 back if you have 1.1
#3424 [17:07] <monkiwrench> a little bit
#3425 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_q8irie - Google for MCnostalgia
#3426 [17:08] <panitaliemom> why my minecraft wont start at all?
#3427 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> monkiwrench - A little bit?
#3428 [17:08] <monkiwrench> yeah
#3429 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> monkiwrench - Could you elaborate?
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#3431 [17:08] <bing> My cousin works with computers, and he took it for a few weeks to put more memory on it, so it would run smoother. He could have taken it out.
#3432 [17:08] <monkiwrench> i cant start it if u mean that
#3433 [17:09] <panitaliemom> could somone help me with minecraft running problem
#3434 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> monkiwrench - Do you get any error reports? Any crash logs?
#3435 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> monkiwrench - Does minecraft say anything when it crashes?
#3436 [17:09] <monkiwrench> i got a copule error reports
#3437 [17:09] <panitaliemom> at desktop it wont open and at minecraft.net/play it says that not enought memory..
#3438 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> monkiwrench - Please go to www.pastebin.com and paste the entirety of the error reports there, then submit it and give us the http:// address so that we may read it
#3439 [17:10] <monkiwrench> kk
#3440 [17:12] * AureliusM is still puzzled about the no devices showing in dxc031
#3440 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> AureliusM - Will give you a small walkthrough of bing's dxdiag in #mc.breakroom
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#3442 [17:13] <bing> It's downloading now. Thanks everyone. c:
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#3444 [17:13] <ShadowBlaze18> I need help
#3445 [17:13] <monkiwrench> hey where can u find the error reports
#3446 [17:13] <ShadowBlaze18> will I be able to host a minecraft server? Broadband Link Connection Speed: • Incoming: 6016 kbps • Outgoing: 768 kbps
#3447 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> ShadowBlaze18 - not for that many people
#3448 [17:15] <ShadowBlaze18> I want 20 people
#3449 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> You'll be lucky to get 2-3
#3450 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Your upload bandwidth is not conducive to hosting that many people
#3451 [17:15] <ShadowBlaze18> oh
#3452 [17:15] <ShadowBlaze18> #mine craft forums says
#3453 [17:16] <ShadowBlaze18> my friend got outgoing 75 and if we are 5 its still playable [16:14] <FIX94> so with 768... [16:15] <FIX94> and your sure about this speed? [16:15] <ShadowBlaze18> oh yes it is in my system summary [16:15] <ShadowBlaze18> Broadband Link Connection Speed: • Incoming: 6016 kbps • Outgoing: 768 kbps
#3454 [17:16] <ShadowBlaze18> Fix94 said all that stuff
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#3456 [17:19] <robbyfix> HELP please! I tried to install buildcraft-Mod, but it failed. Befor installation I forced an update - I think that i got an update of the brandnew MC vers. 1.1 - could be this the problem?? I think the buildcraft-mod-packages are for 1.0.0
#3457 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Then yes. The mod hasn't been updated for 1.1
#3458 [17:20] <robbyfix> thanks - but how can I get the update for 1.0.0? At minecraft.net I couldn't find a possibility to download 1.0.0 again - or is there another solution for
#3459 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> Since 1.0.0 is a legacy version, it is no longer supported by Mojang, and you cannot download it from them anymore. There is a fan-made mod called MCnostalgia that can apply a binary rollback to minecraft.jar if you want to revert back, but it is not officially recognized by Mojang
#3460 [17:22] <ShadowBlaze18> Fully Operational DSL Link: Connected Internet: Connected Connection Speed: • Incoming: 6016 kbps • Outgoing: 768 kbps
#3461 [17:22] <ShadowBlaze18> What the heck
#3462 [17:22] <ShadowBlaze18> this is so messed up
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#3464 [17:23] <robbyfix> that's incredible - I bought the 1.0.0 only 3 weeks ago!!
#3465 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> robbyfix - Minecraft only updated to 1.1 just recently. People who make mods have to update their mods whenever minecraft updates.
#3466 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Go yell at them to update faster.
#3467 [17:25] <AureliusM> ShadowBlaze18: I have half your upload and I've managed to host 2 people, but with lag
#3468 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft's bandwidth needs scale geometrically, not linearly, as everyone is sending map updates to everyone else
#3469 [17:26] <vicki142> have you figured out anything out
#3470 [17:27] <robbyfix> thank you very much, GreyVulpine ! You helped me a lot !! bye
#3471 [17:27] * GreyVulpine waves
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#3473 [17:29] <AureliusM> vicki142: yes I'm looking for drivers for your chip now
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#3475 [17:32] <vicki142> ok thanks
#3476 [17:32] <bing> Sorry for bugging you guys again... The driver's progress bar will get to the very end, when you'd suspect it's done downloading, and then suddenly have an "error" and close. ;-; I don't mean to sound whiny, but I've been trying since last night to play.
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#3478 [17:32] <AureliusM> vicki142: You should download and install these drivers: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx
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#3480 [17:35] <Guest52037> minecraft crash when i updated 1.1 what can i do ?
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#3482 [17:37] <AureliusM> bing: Ok, no problem. Can you find the error in a hs_err_pid file?
#3483 [17:38] <Guest52037> What is that?
#3484 [17:38] <bing> Err, I'm not familiar with that type of file.
#3485 [17:38] <AureliusM> bing: I should have asked did you manage to install the drivers that GreyVulpine linked for you?
#3486 [17:38] <bing> That's what I
#3487 [17:38] <ShadowBlaze18> how do I get better internet?
#3488 [17:38] <bing> *I've been attempting, but they keep closing.
#3489 [17:38] <ShadowBlaze18> eith at&t?
#3490 [17:38] <ShadowBlaze18> *with
#3491 [17:39] <Guest52037> what?
#3492 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> ShadowBlaze18 - Call them up and ask?
#3493 [17:39] <ShadowBlaze18> ok
#3494 [17:39] <AureliusM> bing: You mean the driver install closes?
#3495 [17:39] * ShadowBlaze18 the 12 year old will call at&t
#3495 [17:40] <bing> Yes. Right when it's about to finish downloading, it closes.
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#3497 [17:41] <Guest52037> my minecraft crashes when i run minecraft 1.1, can anyone help me?
#3498 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Guest52037 - Got any error reports? Any files named hs_err_pid?
#3499 [17:41] <AureliusM> bing: Hmmm, I'm trying the dowload now to see what might be wrong
#3500 [17:41] <Guest52037> what?
#3501 [17:42] <AureliusM> bing: Which browser are you using to download this?
#3502 [17:42] <bing> Mozilla Firefox.
#3503 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> Guest52037 - How does minecraft crash? When it crashes, do you get any errors?
#3504 [17:42] <Goldblue> I just downloaded the game from the site. How do i enter the game?
#3505 [17:42] <Guest52037> Yes
#3506 [17:42] <AureliusM> bing: Check the download folder of firefox
#3507 [17:43] <AureliusM> bing: The download worked for me, it's name is winxp_14324.exe and is 18,118,056 bytes large
#3508 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> Guest52037 - Could you copy the contents of that error report to pastebin.com and submit it, then give us the URL so that we can read it?
#3509 [17:43] <bing> I must go, sorry. Can we speak again tomorrow?
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#3511 [17:43] <Guest52037> I log in to minecraft, it freezes at the mojang logo, then it crashes
#3512 [17:43] <AureliusM> bing: yes, use the same nick "bing" so we remember
#3513 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Guest52037 - Could you copy the contents of that error report to pastebin.com and submit it, then give us the URL so that we can read it?
#3514 [17:44] <bing> Okay, thanks again. ^^
#3515 [17:44] * Morrolan kicks his PC
#3515 [17:44] <Guest52037> ok...
#3516 [17:44] <Goldblue> I just bought the game but its not working. How do i get on and play?
#3517 [17:44] <Goldblue> I just bought the game but its not working. How do i get on and play?
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#3519 [17:45] <Morrolan> I think Grey is still waiting for your error report, Guest52037.
#3520 [17:45] <Morrolan> Oh, sorry, wrong guy.
#3521 [17:45] <Morrolan> Somehow I saw two nicks starting with "g" and assumed they'd be the same person. -.-
#3522 [17:45] <Morrolan> Goldblue - How exactly does it not work?
#3523 [17:46] <Guest52037> I still dont know how to fix this crashing on minecraft
#3524 [17:47] <Morrolan> Guest52037 - Just give Grey that error report already, and he'll take care of you.
#3525 [17:47] <Goldblue> I got the game 30 minutes ago and tried logging in but it just brought me to a error page
#3526 [17:47] <Guest52037> who is Grey?
#3527 [17:47] <Morrolan> Goldblue - So, when logging into minecraft.net or when starting the launcher?
#3528 [17:47] <Morrolan> Guest52037 - GreyVulpine, the guy who asked you to give you the error report you get.
#3529 [17:48] <Goldblue> when trying to get in the game
#3530 [17:48] <Morrolan> Goldblue - That error page, does it contain things which look like HTML? Stuff in < and > ?
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#3532 [17:48] <Goldblue> I was on home page already on account, i clicked open browser.
#3533 [17:49] <Morrolan> Oh, I see. Try the downloaded client for a change.
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#3535 [17:49] <Goldblue> Do you want to know what it says?
#3536 [17:50] <Morrolan> Yea, that'll work too I guess. If it's longer than a few lines use www.pastebin.com
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#3538 [17:50] <sk8terguy713> i need help
#3539 [17:51] <Goldblue> "Internet Explore has stopped trying to restore this website. It appears this website continues to have a problem"
#3540 [17:51] <Guest52037> BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528
#3541 [17:51] <Morrolan> Guest52037 - www.pastebin.com - use it. ;)
#3542 [17:52] <Morrolan> Goldblue - Uh, try the downloaded version of Minecraft for a change. :)
#3543 [17:52] <Morrolan> Goldblue - That is, select "Download" instead of "In browser", save the file onto your desktop and execute it.
#3544 [17:52] <Guest52037> how do i use it
#3545 [17:52] <Morrolan> Guest52037 - Copy the contents of your error report onto pastebin, hit "submit" and give us the link.
#3546 [17:52] <sk8terguy713> when i logged into a server i made my self mod and when i took it off to pvp i couldnt take damage what happend?
#3547 [17:53] <Goldblue> ok i will
#3548 [17:53] <sk8terguy713> god i mean not mod
#3549 [17:53] <mib_yr2ame> hey so im playing in browser and when i jpin a server it says" an error occured while loading the applet please contact support to resolve this issue fatal error occured(4): unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack
#3550 [17:53] <mib_yr2ame> what does that mean? how can i fix it?
#3551 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> mib_yr2ame - Clear your java's cache
#3552 [17:53] <Guest52037> how do i put a link
#3553 [17:53] <Morrolan> sk8terguy713 - You might have used the wrong command, for some plugins you have to use /god to ungod yourself, and for some you have to use /god. I suggest you read up on your plugin's documentation.
#3554 [17:54] <Goldblue> I think i found it
#3555 [17:54] <Morrolan> Guest52037 - Well, copy the one from the title bar and put it in here.
#3556 [17:54] <sk8terguy713> but im not the owner
#3557 [17:54] <mib_yr2ame> how do i clear my java cache
#3558 [17:54] <Guest52037> http://pastebin.com/XSmgbuNz
#3559 [17:54] <Goldblue> Found it! Thank you for your help!
#3560 [17:54] <Morrolan> sk8terguy713 - Then ask the owner what plugin he uses. There is no way we can help you with that, since we don't know what plugin that server uses.
#3561 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> mib_yr2ame - What operating systema are you running?
#3562 [17:54] <Morrolan> Goldblue - Ok, now try that one. If it works - wonderful. If not - we'll look further.
#3563 [17:54] <mib_yr2ame> firefox
#3564 [17:55] <Guest52037> like that?
#3565 [17:55] <mib_yr2ame> wait nvm
#3566 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> mib_yr2ame - that's a browser. What Operating system are you on? WIndows? Mac? Llinux? Amiga?
#3567 [17:55] <mib_yr2ame> thtz the browser, the operating system is vista
#3568 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> mib_yr2ame - Read: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/plugin_cache.xml
#3569 [17:56] <mib_yr2ame> k thank you
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#3571 [17:58] <Guest52037> Hello? The person that told me to put the link, well, um, this is it http://pastebin.com/XSmgbuNz
#3572 [17:58] <sk8terguy713> the plugin is essentials
#3573 [17:59] <Morrolan> sk8terguy713 - Then ask in #essentials
#3574 [17:59] <Morrolan> Guest52037 - Uh, yea, let me read up on your intial issue.
#3575 [17:59] <sk8terguy713> #essentials
#3576 [17:59] <sk8terguy713> how do i got there
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#3578 [18:00] <Morrolan> sk8terguy713 - use "/join #essentials"
#3579 [18:00] <Jon> Hi. Is there any way to download an version 1.0 for server and client?
#3580 [18:00] * vicki142 [vicki142@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3581 [18:00] <Morrolan> Jon - For the client use a tool like MCNostalgia, for the server I wouldn't know.
#3582 [18:01] * Morrolan pokes GreyVulpine with http://pastebin.com/XSmgbuNz
#3582 [18:01] <Morrolan> ^ Guest52037's error report.
#3583 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> ??> Guest52037 win/reinst
#3584 [18:01] <VoxelHead> Guest52037: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3585 [18:01] <VoxelHead> Guest52037: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3586 [18:01] <Morrolan> Thanks. :)
#3587 [18:02] <Jon> I don't have windows. I have a Mac.
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#3589 [18:03] <Jon> MCNostalgia only works for mac.
#3590 [18:03] <Guest52037> VoxelHead are you sure?
#3591 [18:03] <Jon> I mean for windows.
#3592 [18:03] <AureliusM> Jon: unofficially, I read that McNost runs on python which runs on a Mac
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#3594 [18:04] <vicki142> this still didnt work how do i get a refund
#3595 [18:05] <Morrolan> Jon - I thought it to be a Python app, like AureliusM said?
#3596 [18:05] <Morrolan> vicki142 - You don't, Mojang doesn't give out refunds.
#3597 [18:05] <AureliusM> vicki142: we haven't finished yet, did the driver install Ok?
#3598 [18:05] <Guest52037> THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP
#3599 [18:06] <Guest52037> BYE
#3600 [18:06] <Jon> Ok, nevermind, they also have a mac version. I guess I jumped ahead of myself.
#3601 [18:06] <Jon> Ok, nevermind, they also have a mac version. I guess I jumped ahead of myself.
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#3604 [18:08] <AureliusM> vicki142: Can you do another dxdiag so we can check the new driver details? Follow VoxelHead's instructions:
#3605 [18:08] <AureliusM> ??> vicki142 win/dxdiag
#3606 [18:08] <VoxelHead> vicki142: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3607 [18:08] <VoxelHead> vicki142: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3608 [18:08] <vicki142> yes i have installed them and the same thing is happening
#3609 [18:09] <AureliusM> vicki142: The java machine has stoipped? Can you try this batch method to catch the full error log? Link follows next
#3610 [18:09] <AureliusM> vicki142: http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#3611 [18:09] <AureliusM> vicki142: ^^ instructions are there ^^
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#3613 [18:10] <AureliusM> \me wishes mojang included a full error logger in Minecraft
#3614 [18:10] <ShadowBelmont> Hi I have had a bug plaguing me since 1.8, where my character, any mobs, and chests are blacked out permanently. I can't find any related bugs other than the usual lighting bugs, but I'm hoping this isn't just me. sorry for the repeat but I disconnected
#3615 [18:10] * AureliusM wishes Windows did not use backslashes
#3615 [18:11] <Jon> Thanks, it worked for me.
#3616 [18:11] <vicki142> http://pastebin.com/PqEvQWds
#3617 [18:11] <AureliusM> ShadowBelmont: I had this problem on servers with chests only
#3618 [18:13] <ShadowBelmont> I've had it in Single Player. I hope it isn't just the fact that my computer is a dinosaur...I have the latest drivers for my graphics card and still it is doing this
#3619 [18:14] <AureliusM> ShadowBelmont: But if you are getting this in single player with default texture pack, *might* be driver related.
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#3622 [18:14] <AureliusM> ShadowBelmont: Try all video options, fast and Advanced OpenGL off, smooth lighting off ?
#3623 [18:15] <mermi> it wont let me play singal player
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#3626 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> mermi - And why won't it?
#3627 [18:15] <mermi> errer loading page
#3628 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> What error do you get?
#3629 [18:16] <ShadowBelmont> I've tried everything lowest possible settings. I'm using a VISIONTEK Xtasy Radeon 9250 PCI graphics card
#3630 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> The radeon 9000 series, around here, has been known to have problems with minecraft
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#3632 [18:17] <Mixxit> hey
#3633 [18:17] <mermi> it say anable to load logo and progressbar to image
#3634 [18:17] <Mixxit> does anyone know of a mod to help you convert snowballs into snowblocks quickly
#3635 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> mermi - What operating system are you on, and what browser do you use?
#3636 [18:18] <mermi> computer
#3637 [18:18] <mermi> vista
#3638 [18:18] <ShadowBelmont> Well darn, I was hoping it wasn't the graphics card...I can play beta 1.7.6 just fine but B1.8-1.1 give me the same problems
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#3640 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> I've seen many people pass through here with 9200s, that worked in pre-1.8, but since the graphical improvements made in 1.8 and 1.0.0, getting a black screen
#3641 [18:20] <Omega_Guardian> just put 4 snowballs into craft table and theres some button/mouse combo that auto-makes a full stack
#3642 [18:20] <mib_u179fv> Hi I'm ussing a mac and i can't update to the new server for some reason.. i get the message fatal error occured (4)
#3643 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> mib_u179fv - What's the full error?
#3644 [18:20] <ShadowBelmont> I don't get a black screen, though. That's what confuses me. It just my character, mobs, and chests that are blacked out...All other blocks are fine
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#3646 [18:21] <Omega_Guardian> sounds like could be texture pack issue
#3647 [18:21] <mib_u179fv> thats the error it gets all the way to minecraft.jar and stops
#3648 [18:21] <mib_u179fv> i just need to update but it won't let me
#3649 [18:21] <Balee> Hiya.
#3650 [18:21] <ShadowBelmont> I'm using default textures Omega, its the Vanilla game no mods or textures
#3651 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> mib_u179fv - There's more to the error text than just Fatal error occured (4)
#3652 [18:22] <mib_u179fv> can anybody help me it says Fatal Error occured 4 (Retrieving:lwjgl_utl.jar21%
#3653 [18:23] <mib_u179fv> i'm on a mac
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#3659 [18:25] <mib_u179fv> can anybody help me it says Fatal Error occured 4 (Retrieving:lwjgl_utl.jar21%
#3660 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_u179fv - Is this on the free outdated classic version, or the premium version?
#3661 [18:26] <Balee> A question!
#3662 [18:26] <Balee> Updated to 1.1.
#3663 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> An answer!
#3664 [18:26] <Morrolan> That's not a question, Balee.
#3665 [18:26] <Balee> Does anyone else have focusing issues?
#3666 [18:26] <Balee> Like...
#3667 [18:26] <Morrolan> Now _that_ is one.
#3668 [18:26] <Balee> Alt-tab away, go back, try to Esc from the menu, and nothing.
#3669 [18:27] <Morrolan> Only when I didn't put my lens in.
#3670 [18:27] <AureliusM> ShadowBelmont: I guess you tried full screen and different size windows? dropped the colour depth to 65536?
#3671 [18:27] <Balee> And you have to click the screen to get it focused again.
#3672 [18:27] <mib_u179fv> update to 1.1
#3673 [18:27] <mib_u179fv> premium version
#3674 [18:27] <ShadowBelmont> I haven't tried dropping color depth, not sure how to do that but the problem persists on all window sizes
#3675 [18:27] <mib_u179fv> hi i can't update to 1.1 can anybody help me.. im using mac
#3676 [18:27] <Balee> Anyone? Noone?
#3677 [18:28] <Balee> I know it's not just me.
#3678 [18:28] <AureliusM> ShadowBelmont: There's the GLView program which lists details of which OpenGL functions your graphics adapter supports, might point to what's missing
#3679 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_8zmlyh mac/reinst
#3680 [18:28] <VoxelHead> mib_8zmlyh: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3681 [18:28] <VoxelHead> mib_8zmlyh: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3682 [18:28] <Balee> But I need at least a few other cases to feel justified when I edit the version history article on the wiki.
#3683 [18:28] <Morrolan> Balee - Didn't update to 1.1 yet, so can't say anything about this particular issue myself.
#3684 [18:28] <Morrolan> You could try to ask in #Minecraft as well.
#3685 [18:28] <mib_u179fv> ok vovel head i think thats the problem but how do i do it
#3686 [18:29] <ShadowBelmont> I'll try that then come back with results...or lack thereof...whichever the case
#3687 [18:29] <Balee> I thought of that too, but they always seem to be so busy with other stuff.
#3688 [18:29] <Balee> I figured I'd ask here first.
#3689 [18:29] <Cide> Another question. My minecraft will play no sound. Yet it will play the random cave noises. Your thoughts?
#3690 [18:30] <Morrolan> mib_u179fv - Just follow the instructions VoxelHead provided you with.
#3691 [18:30] <langkid1> does the Ender Crystals have a item id?
#3692 [18:30] <mib_u179fv> hi thank u it worked
#3693 [18:30] <mib_u179fv> thanks for the help
#3694 [18:30] <Morrolan> langkid1 - Not one you could use to spawn it as far as I know.
#3695 [18:31] <Morrolan> Actually, yes, you can it seems. "/give PLAYERNAME 383 1 200"
#3696 [18:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> doesnt work
#3697 [18:32] <Morrolan> "In Minecraft versions including Spawn Eggs, the player can spawn Ender Crystals by using the /give command in SMP as so: /give PLAYERNAME 383 1 200"
#3698 [18:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> and yes im admin
#3699 [18:32] <Morrolan> on 1.1 already?
#3700 [18:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh its for spawn eggs
#3701 [18:32] <Morrolan> mhm
#3702 [18:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> nah dont think server is updated to 1.1
#3703 [18:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> nvm then
#3704 [18:32] <Morrolan> Seems it's a subtype of these eggs. FOr whatever reason.
#3705 [18:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> i like the way the eggs are enchanted
#3706 [18:33] <vicki142> still waiting
#3707 [18:35] <vicki142> still waiting
#3708 [18:38] <ShadowBelmont> Ok where in GLViewer should I go to check if somethings missing for Minecraft?
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#3710 [18:39] <AureliusM> vicki142: waiting for Minecraft to finish downloading packages?
#3711 [18:39] <AureliusM> ShadowBelmont: see the OpenGL section? Should be a number 1.6 or over. Click the details over it and check each version is 100% I guess
#3712 [18:40] <Balee> Such an unfocused bunch of people!
#3713 [18:40] <AureliusM> vicki142: What messages are in the black command window?
#3714 [18:40] <Balee> @ #minecraft
#3715 [18:41] <ShadowBelmont> Ok my version is 1.3...only 1.1-1.3 are 100%
#3716 [18:41] <AureliusM> Balee: I tried to reproduce your symptoms with 1.1 vanilla but failed on Vista no Aero. Alt tab and back and escape always worked
#3717 [18:42] <Balee> Weird...
#3718 [18:42] <Balee> Thanks, though. :)
#3719 [18:42] <AureliusM> Balee: Months ago there were reports on getsatisfaction of lost focus .
#3720 [18:43] <Balee> Well this is new to me.
#3721 [18:43] <Balee> I've been alt-tabbing out of the game since, like, forever.
#3722 [18:43] <AureliusM> Balee: But we couldn't get any consistent details from the users reporting it. Wild speculation: Windows apps "grabbing" the focus.
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#3724 [18:43] <AureliusM> Balee: I alt tab all the time, and never see that problem.
#3725 [18:44] <Balee> Yeah, but if other applications would be causing this, they should've caused this long ago.
#3726 [18:45] <AureliusM> Balee: I maybe unusual in that I've disabled most bloatware and have no active browser plugins. No Aero. Ordinary wired mouse, default driver.
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#3728 [18:46] <mr_boo> can you construct a mob spawner
#3729 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> No.
#3730 [18:46] <Balee> I'm on XP, by the way.
#3731 [18:46] <Dglink12> Help. I'm trying to login into my minecraft account but it says failed to login and the online option says "(not downloaded)" no quotes
#3732 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Login failed means you're putting in your username/password in wrong. Try resetting your password
#3733 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> :resetpass
#3734 [18:47] <WugBot> resetpass: You can reset the password for your minecraft account using the following page: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#3735 [18:47] <Cide> Dglink, you have to login to install it.
#3736 [18:47] <ShadowBelmont> Ok so it is my graphics card that is causing my problem...Is there anything outside of buying a new graphics card or updating drivers that I can do to fix it?
#3737 [18:48] <Dglink12> No I'm loving in from the minecraft game
#3738 [18:48] <Dglink12> Sorry loging in not loving
#3739 [18:49] <Balee> And so is my friend who also has this problem.
#3740 [18:49] <AureliusM> ShadowBelmont: Sorry I missed your return. Um only 1.1 to 1.3 ? I know that beta 1.8 used a new 1.4 or 1.5 OpenGL function - Notch did a tweet about it, I have to look it up
#3741 [18:50] <ShadowBelmont> yeah 1.4 and 1.5 have 86% and 2.0+ are all at 0%
#3742 [18:50] <ShadowBelmont> correction 1.5 is at 66%
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#3745 [18:51] <Balee> Plus there's also another weird thing...
#3746 [18:52] <Balee> Sometimes the last chat message flashes up after it disappeared.
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#3748 [18:53] <_3Power> Hello?
#3749 [18:54] <_3Power> I am unable to log into my account on the website or via the client. I have reset the password several times to no avail
#3750 [18:55] <blinky> I am stuck in the air how do I get down nothing is working for me
#3751 [18:55] <_3Power> Aw what the fuck, the official site links here, but this isn't real support at all?
#3752 [18:55] * AuBot kicked _3Power from #minecrafthelp (Reason: 3Power :Please keep it civil.)
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#3754 [18:56] <AureliusM> ShadowBelmont: Hmm all I can find is Notch's note on the 1.3 function ARB_multitexture. Can't find a definitive list of what functions Minecraft uses. As to graphics card, my old Nvidia 7500 just deteriorated over weeks until it died and I had to buy another. Um, keep it well ventilated (mine overheated) ?
#3755 [18:56] <_3Power> ...How do I talk to a person who can actually fix something?
#3756 [18:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> _3Power - by not being sarcastic
#3757 [18:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> try again but with a please
#3758 [18:57] <AureliusM> blinky: In creative double tap space, or press the shift key
#3759 [18:57] <ShadowBelmont> I think it is just the fact that my computer is a dinosaur, I'm hopefully getting a new laptop soon so that should be the end of my problems
#3760 [18:58] <Cide> I can't look down on blinky because I just now learned you could sprint.
#3761 [19:00] <_3Power> Please tell me where I can talk to someone who can fix my problem
#3762 [19:00] <AureliusM> Balee: ah I've seen that on YouTube let's plays from servers, and also an armour item moved to inventory briefly appears as the previous item, eg: move helmet to inventory, move boots to inventory = boots apppear as a second helmet for a frame.
#3763 [19:00] <Cide> _3Power, I'll make a poor attempt to help. Problem is?
#3764 [19:01] <_3Power> Problem is I cannot log in.
#3765 [19:01] <_3Power> Changing password appears to do nothing
#3766 [19:01] <Balee> AureliusM: This is new too. At least for me.
#3767 [19:01] <_3Power> The site recognizes my email and that I have paid for the game
#3768 [19:01] <_3Power> It just will not let me get past the login screen
#3769 [19:01] <Cide> What is the error called that you recieve.
#3770 [19:02] <_3Power> Oops, unknown username or password.
#3771 [19:02] <ShadowBelmont> _3Power, are you sure you're using the right username?
#3772 [19:02] <_3Power> Yes
#3773 [19:03] <ShadowBelmont> Have you checked Caps Lock is off and the usual other business?
#3774 [19:03] <Cide> Check the email to be sure. I accidently add extra letters to my pass sometimes.
#3775 [19:03] <_3Power> It sends to my email when I request a new password.
#3776 [19:03] <_3Power> I will reset my password one more time
#3777 [19:04] <ShadowBelmont> Well now that I'm sure about my problem, I have work to do, thanks for the help
#3778 [19:06] <_3Power> Ah here we go
#3779 [19:06] <_3Power> I just changed my password to something
#3780 [19:06] <_3Power> new
#3781 [19:06] <_3Power> It said I successfully changed it
#3782 [19:06] <_3Power> I go to log in
#3783 [19:07] <_3Power> and it brings me to a forget password page
#3784 [19:07] <_3Power> but I seem to have been logged in this one time....
#3785 [19:07] <Wug> try clearing your cookies
#3786 [19:08] <_3Power> could it be that the system hates certain characters, like numbers?
#3787 [19:08] <_3Power> The password I used this time didn't have one
#3788 [19:08] <Wug> numers are encouraged
#3789 [19:08] <Wug> try clearing your cookies
#3790 [19:09] <_3Power> Well, it works now
#3791 [19:09] <_3Power> I don't know what was different this one time, but it works
#3792 [19:09] <Cide> _3Power
#3793 [19:09] <Cide> Keep your password down somewhere
#3794 [19:09] <Cide> Now all you need is to forget what you changed it too x3
#3795 [19:10] <_3Power> Thanks all
#3796 [19:10] <Wug> _3Power: since its possible that someone changed it
#3797 [19:10] <Wug> ...
#3798 [19:10] <Cide> At least he said thanks.
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#3800 [19:11] <vicki142> still waiting
#3801 [19:11] <Cide> Welcome to #Minecrafthelp, whats your deal
#3802 [19:12] <AureliusM> vicki142: tell us more than just "still waiting". What messages are in the black command window?
#3803 [19:13] <vicki142> im still waiting on someone to help me a minecraft download was working with voxelhead
#3804 [19:13] <Wug> vox is a bot
#3805 [19:13] <AureliusM> vicki142: did you follow my instructions up there?
#3806 [19:14] <AureliusM> vicki142: AureliusM vicki142: http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2 <-- these
#3807 [19:15] <AureliusM> vicki142: hello?
#3808 [19:16] <Cide> hes still there `-`
#3809 [19:16] <vicki142> yes i have done everything and still NOTHING
#3810 [19:16] <AureliusM> vicki142: Does a black command window appesr?
#3811 [19:16] <AureliusM> vicki142: *appear
#3812 [19:17] <AureliusM> vicki142: have you done this first step: Download the minecraft.jar from minecraft's site https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar ?
#3813 [19:19] <Cide> [vicki142 PING Reply] : 5.164 seconds [Assuming busy]
#3814 [19:21] * AureliusM has to go to bed now, bye bye all
#3814 [19:21] <Cide> I assume he pinged.
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#3816 [19:24] <vicki142> YES I HAVE DOWNLOADED IT FROM THIS SITE ALSO AND IT STILL DOESNT WORK
#3817 [19:25] <Cide> undo, capslock. Also, what error name are you getting.
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#3823 [19:56] <Wug> vicki142: its not going to work immediately
#3824 [19:56] <vicki142> ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS
#3825 [19:56] <Wug> we need information in order to figure out whats actually wrong before we can fix it
#3826 [19:56] <Wug> now follow those goddamn instructions to the letter
#3827 [19:57] <Wug> and tell us exactly what happens
#3828 [19:57] <Wug> down to the last printed letter
#3829 [19:58] <Wug> "IT STILL DOESNT WORK" is not an answer in any way shape or form
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#3831 [19:58] <vicki142> I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE 2 SO JUST GET ME MY GODDAMN MONEY BACK
#3832 [19:58] <Wug> i cant
#3833 [19:59] <Wug> we're all volunteers
#3834 [19:59] <Wug> dont be rude to any of us or I will eject you from this channel
#3835 [20:01] <Wug> AureliusM: doop
#3836 [20:01] <Wug> what were you making vicki142 do
#3837 [20:03] <vicki142> YOUR THE ONE THAT GOT RUDE WITH ME, I JUST KNOW THAT MY PAYMENT WENT THROUGH JUST FINE BUT WHEN IT CAME TO DOWNLOADING NOTHING HAS WORKED
#3838 [20:04] <Wug> stop shouting, last chance
#3839 [20:04] <Wug> :tv
#3840 [20:04] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#3841 [20:04] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
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#3843 [20:07] <Wug> vicki142: it takes 20 seconds to download teamviewer
#3844 [20:07] <Wug> why do I not have your id and password yet
#3845 [20:08] <Wug> vicki142: if you dont want help, then by all means, continue ignoring us
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#3847 [20:10] <Strapples> hey im having a problem in MINECRAFT CLASSIC on a MAC running 10.7.2 LION running CHROME
#3848 [20:10] <Strapples> it will not run, freezes up the tab and the tab crashes
#3849 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Classic hasn't been running on macs for months now
#3850 [20:10] <Wug> minecraft classic doesnt work on macs
#3851 [20:10] <Wug> GreyVulpine: is that like permanently in your clipboard or something
#3852 [20:10] <Strapples> well that blows... but its nice to know its not just me >_<
#3853 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> wug - Pfft, no
#3854 [20:11] <Wug> GreyVulpine: if vicki142 gives you any crap, kick him
#3855 [20:11] <Wug> hes been shouting at everyone
#3856 [20:11] * GreyVulpine nods
#3856 [20:11] <Wug> nobody has any idea whats wrong because all hes been doing is yelling
#3857 [20:11] <Wug> I told him to download teamviewer
#3858 [20:12] <Wug> its probably something stupid like a firewall or !
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#3860 [20:12] <Wug> give him exactly one chance
#3861 [20:12] <Zyler> Hello
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#3863 [20:12] <Wug> Zyler: hello
#3864 [20:12] <mib_yrunof> hello
#3865 [20:13] <Todd> hey
#3866 [20:13] <Zyler> When i try to open minecraft it just shows a black screen
#3867 [20:13] <mib_yrunof> that is what is happening to us too. we bought the premium and uploaded Java but we just get a black screen. can you help?
#3868 [20:14] <Zyler> Im not sure whats going on either
#3869 [20:14] <Todd> i just have a completely random glitch
#3870 [20:14] <Wug> :dx > Zyler
#3871 [20:14] <WugBot> Zyler: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3872 [20:14] <WugBot> Zyler: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3873 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> mib_yrunof - How far do you get in launching minecraft, when you get a black screen? Has minecraft worked before?
#3874 [20:14] <Wug> :dx > mib_yrunof
#3875 [20:14] <WugBot> mib_yrunof: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3876 [20:14] <WugBot> mib_yrunof: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3877 [20:15] <Zyler> it worked in the browser once
#3878 [20:15] <Wug> GreyVulpine: have you noticed wugbot's new feature
#3879 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> Which one Wug?
#3880 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> Which one Wug?
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#3883 [20:15] <Wug-> did it do it? I dont think it did
#3884 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> Erm, do what?
#3885 [20:16] <Wug-> lol definitely not
#3886 [20:16] <Todd> anyone help me with a glitch i have?
#3887 [20:16] <Todd> anyone help me with a glitch i have?
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#3889 [20:16] <Zyler> I wonder why it worked in the browser but not once i downloaded it
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#3891 [20:17] <mib_yrunof> thank you will try that now
#3892 [20:17] <Wug> hmm did I break it or something
#3893 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Wug - Got something that time..
#3894 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Wug - "Wug (wugserv.student.rit.edu) is currently in this channel as 'wugbot'."
#3895 [20:18] <Wug> mmhm
#3896 [20:18] <mib_yrunof> sorry, can you tell me how to get to Win+R keys?
#3897 [20:18] <Wug> I guess I forgot to turn it on when I restarted it
#3898 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_yrunof - Lower left, between ctrl and alt, is the windows key. Press that and your R key
#3899 [20:18] <Wug> it tracks duplicate users and users who leave and come back
#3900 [20:19] <Wug> I was testing it in here the other day, thats what experimentalwugbot was doing in here
#3901 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> Wug - Neat. And BNCs?
#3902 [20:19] <mib_yrunof> thanks
#3903 [20:19] <Wug> its not very spammy, it averages about 20 messages a day or so
#3904 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> Does it use hostmasks, or nickserv?
#3905 [20:19] <Wug> hostmasks
#3906 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#3907 [20:19] <Wug> it ignores if you leave and come back with the same nickname, so cycling wont do anything
#3908 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Well, you know my position on chatty bots. I do reserve the right to mute/kick, unless there'sa clear !stfu command.
#3909 [20:20] <Wug> I'm constantly scrolling through the logs trying to figure out who was here last as who
#3910 [20:20] <Wug> browsers restarting and all
#3911 [20:21] <Wug> and wugbot does have a ;stfu
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#3913 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> One of these days, we are going to compile a list of bot commands.
#3914 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> Maybe.
#3915 [20:21] <Wug> I need to make wugbot's command list searchable, and not cut off the last bunch of them :/
#3916 [20:22] <Wug> I already made that list of aubots commands, its still incomplete though
#3917 [20:22] * GreyVulpine nods
#3917 [20:22] <Wug> I'll go through and define help messages for all of wugbots' aliases, some of them still dont have descriptions
#3918 [20:23] <Wug> if you know what the command is but not what it does you can use ;help <command?
#3919 [20:24] <mib_yrunof> I've followed the instructions and pasted the system info into pastebin but don't know where to find the link to paste here?
#3920 [20:32] <mib_yrunof> Hi Wug, are you still there?
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#3924 [20:58] <George> Hi, running MC on a Mac, 64 bit installed, but Minecraft claims it isn't!
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#3926 [20:58] <George> Is there anyone around to help?
#3927 [21:00] <kitasokaru> I've tried to connect to my friends server and I've also tried making my own and connecting people to it and I cannot do either. My friend thinks it's a firewall problem but idk. What should I do?
#3928 [21:02] <kitasokaru> Help?
#3929 [21:03] <|Kiikun|Janus|> kitasokaru: did you port forward or did he?
#3930 [21:04] * |Kiikun|Janus| half wishes the server would attempt uPnP..
#3930 [21:04] <kitasokaru> We've tried it both ways. =\
#3931 [21:04] <|Kiikun|Janus|> kitasokaru: i dont mean have you tried connecting to him. i mean did you go into your router and set up port forwarding
#3932 [21:05] <kitasokaru> hmmm I don't think I did actually
#3933 [21:05] <|Kiikun|Janus|> kitasokaru: Goto http://goo.gl/DsVIL and click on your router model, skip the PFConfig Ad, and follow the instructions to set up port forwarding! :D
#3934 [21:05] <kitasokaru> What exactly do I need to do for that?
#3935 [21:07] * |Kiikun|Janus| goes to prep dinner. brb
#3935 [21:12] * BeastmodeXX [BeastmodeXX@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3936 [21:12] <BeastmodeXX> hello? :P
#3937 [21:12] <BeastmodeXX> anybody there?
#3938 [21:13] <Wug> I am
#3939 [21:13] <Wug> what do you need help with
#3940 [21:13] * |Kiikun| isnt hereb ecause he's making cordon bleu
#3940 [21:13] <|Kiikun|> <.<
#3941 [21:13] <BeastmodeXX> Can someone help me :P
#3942 [21:13] <|Kiikun|> :ww
#3943 [21:13] <WugBot> ww: Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
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#3945 [21:14] <Wug> |Kiikun|: you may be interested in :vague
#3946 [21:14] <Wug> :vague } |Kiikun|
#3947 [21:14] <|Kiikun|> wugbot have an ??< equiv?
#3948 [21:14] <Wug> oops :P that was supposed to be }}
#3949 [21:14] <stomper> How do i get to minecraft from my desktop?
#3950 [21:14] <Wug> >> sends as a message, }} sends as a user
#3951 [21:14] <Ketsueki> WTF?
#3952 [21:15] <Wug> and I hate when people use voxs' ??<, I always immediately wonder what the factoid said
#3953 [21:15] <|Kiikun|> stomper: 'get from your desktop'? you mean you want to copy your worlds?
#3954 [21:15] <Wug> Ketsueki: what
#3955 [21:15] <BeastmodeXX> When i go onto the minecraft server i play on. usually the chat is colored. and for everyone else it is colored. but on mine. when i recently updated to minecraft 1.1.0 it made my chat colors all white with the colors outlining the chat. and i have reinstalled minecraft many times but it does not work. i dont know how to fix this. so if you could help i would greatly appreciate it.
#3956 [21:15] <kitasokaru> Well port forwarding isn't going to work with the program I was told to use. It can't even find my network.
#3957 [21:16] <stomper> I cant find minecraft. I downloaded it a couple hours ago, and i cant seem to find it
#3958 [21:16] <Wug> BeastmodeXX: chat colors are controlled by the server
#3959 [21:16] <|Kiikun|> BeastmodeXX: colored chat is a bukkti plugin.
#3960 [21:16] <Wug> the plugin that controls them is probably not updated yet
#3961 [21:16] <Wug> the admins will fix it sometime
#3962 [21:16] <BeastmodeXX> yes but everyone elses colors work fine?
#3963 [21:16] <|Kiikun|> stomper: if you forgot where you downloaded the client, just redownload it./
#3964 [21:16] <stomper> heeelp
#3965 [21:16] <Wug> :client > stomper
#3966 [21:16] <WugBot> stomper: (client) You can download the client by clicking the correct link: (For Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe ) (For Linux: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar ) (For OSX: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip )
#3967 [21:17] <Wug> ... IE sucks
#3968 [21:17] <Ketsueki> Wugbot hilight everyone
#3969 [21:17] <Wug> Ketsueki: sorry
#3970 [21:17] <Wug> and it wasnt a highlight, it was a channel notice
#3971 [21:17] <|Kiikun|> Everyone *beep*
#3972 [21:17] <Wug> most peoples clients dont do that for channel noticed
#3973 [21:17] <Wug> s*
#3974 [21:18] <Wug> I'll make it not notice channels unless explicitly directed to
#3975 [21:19] <|Kiikun|> Wug: just make } notice the target. target can be person or channel
#3976 [21:20] <Wug> }} does that
#3977 [21:20] <Wug> :vague }} |Kiikun|
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#3979 [21:20] <|Kiikun|> why make it double? <.<
#3980 [21:20] <Wug> but I agree, it should not be as easy to send channel notices
#3981 [21:20] * mib_mwli2w [mib_mwli2w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3982 [21:20] <Wug> for the same reason that > sends to the channel and highlights the user, and >> sends as a pm
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#3984 [21:23] <kitasokaru> Alright I'm about to just never attempt to join group minecrafts. I can't get this stupid port forward thing to port find anything.
#3985 [21:24] <|Kiikun|> ... 'port find'?
#3986 [21:24] <mib_mwli2w> after i hit not now for update it says done loading it doesnt work
#3987 [21:24] <mib_mwli2w> it stays like that
#3988 [21:24] <wdan> Just purchased and downloaded minecraft. After I log in, select single player and select a world the program closes on me. I am running windows XP, with 2 gig ram. I have updated my Java. Any help would be appreciated.
#3989 [21:24] <kitasokaru> It's asking me to pick a network adaptor but isn't giving me any option for one.
#3990 [21:25] <|Kiikun|> mib_mwli2w: have you played before? or tried to update and failed prior?
#3991 [21:25] <kitasokaru> And yes port find because it isn't do anything which puts me back where I started
#3992 [21:25] <kitasokaru> PLayed minecraft before?
#3993 [21:25] <wdan> No have not played before.
#3994 [21:26] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: what router do you have because 'port find' makes no sense to me.
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#3997 [21:26] <|Kiikun|> wdan: if the games never fully downloaded, then of course its black screening when you try and tel it not to download the game files
#3998 [21:26] <kitasokaru> I have a realtek router
#3999 [21:27] <wdan> At what point in the download do I do that?
#4000 [21:27] <|Kiikun|> rt 3500?
#4001 [21:27] <|Kiikun|> wdan: thats what the 'do you want ot update' is.
#4002 [21:28] <mib_mwli2w> no for update i said not now
#4003 [21:28] <kitasokaru> When I look at the details through my laptop I get Realtek RTL8191SE
#4004 [21:29] <wdan> I will give it a try. Thanks.
#4005 [21:29] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: thats a wifi chip, not a router
#4006 [21:29] <mermi> My copy of mine craft black screens at random times when I use it I have cleared the bin heck I deleted the hole .minecraft folder but the problem persists I have the error report if that is needed
#4007 [21:30] <kitasokaru> Well I don't know anything but the fact it's a realtek
#4008 [21:30] <|Kiikun|> :pastebin > mermi
#4009 [21:30] <WugBot> mermi: (pastebin) Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#4010 [21:30] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: thats your wireless card, not the router. go to the physical device you connect to via wifi and look at it for brand name and model number
#4011 [21:31] <mermi> http://pastebin.com/idvuuwc4 this is the report
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#4013 [21:32] <mib_kxbkbf> when i buy the game what do i do to download it
#4014 [21:33] <|Kiikun|> Wug: any ideas on mermi? o.o; first time ive seen 'array out of bounds'
#4015 [21:33] <|Kiikun|> :client > mib_kxbkbf
#4016 [21:33] <WugBot> mib_kxbkbf: (client) You can download the client by clicking the correct link: (For Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe ) (For Linux: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar ) (For OSX: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip )
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#4018 [21:34] <Wug> |Kiikun|: uuhh hang on
#4019 [21:34] <onix> hey is it possible to play minecraft classic on mac osx?
#4020 [21:34] <|Kiikun|> ??> onix mac/classic
#4021 [21:34] <VoxelHead> onix: (mac/classic) Minecraft Classic does not work on Mac OS X. You can however use the World of Minecraft client: http://www.worldofminecraft.com/Game_Client. Minecraft (the paid version) works just fine on Mac OS X.
#4022 [21:35] <Wug> mermi: is this only on one world or all of them? or online?
#4023 [21:35] <|Kiikun|> note, we do not support the WoM client.
#4024 [21:35] <onix> online
#4025 [21:35] <mermi> just the one single player world that i have
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#4027 [21:36] <onix> alright thanks
#4028 [21:36] * |Kiikun| wonders if it was a formerly modded world...
#4028 [21:37] <mermi> no this world is pristine as i wiped my mods when 1.1 came out
#4029 [21:37] <kitasokaru> I got two numbers because it looks like I have two routers. I'm assuming the router is my Linksys model WRT54GS.
#4030 [21:38] <|Kiikun|> mermi: this was generated with 1.1?
#4031 [21:38] <mermi> yes
#4032 [21:38] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: yes. thats a router.
#4033 [21:39] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Linksys/WRT54GS/Minecraft_Server.htm
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#4035 [21:40] <mermi> weird thing was everything was fine for awhile then i started useing the map to navigate
#4036 [21:40] <mermi> almost always crashes after i start refrenceing my map
#4037 [21:42] <kitasokaru> How am I supposed to use this site? I'm not understanding how my router has anything to do with port forwarding or why I can't connect to multiplayer.
#4038 [21:43] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: you are running a server on your computer. you need to tell the router that you want incoming connections from the internet to be ROUTED (aka port forwarded) to your specific computer on your network.
#4039 [21:44] <|Kiikun|> and the cant connect to multiplayer.. you only tried your friend's server, right?
#4040 [21:45] <kitasokaru> I've tried a friends server and attempted to make my own which no one can enter
#4041 [21:45] <kitasokaru> I can't go in or invite people in and this program isn't letting me enter info
#4042 [21:46] <mermi> I suppose ill just have to consider this world dead and just start a new one only 10 or 12 hrs lost I suppose it can't be helped.
#4043 [21:46] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: try connecting to the server at mc.minecraftirc.net
#4044 [21:46] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: can you connect to that one?
#4045 [21:46] <kitasokaru> nope
#4046 [21:47] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: whatdid it say?
#4047 [21:47] <kitasokaru> Could not connect
#4048 [21:47] <Wug> mermi: can you just delete the map
#4049 [21:47] <Wug> dammit
#4050 [21:48] <Wug> this could have been a really good bug report
#4051 [21:48] <wdan> I cannot get this game to work. After I select a world it completely shuts down, and I get this error log. A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x691458bb, pid=500, tid=2128
#4052 [21:48] <Wug> :dx > wdan
#4053 [21:48] <WugBot> wdan: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4054 [21:48] <WugBot> wdan: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#4055 [21:48] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: your firewall might be blockign java then. try disabling it temporarilly and trying again.
#4056 [21:50] <kitasokaru> nope
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#4058 [21:50] <kitasokaru> still not working
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#4061 [21:52] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: same message? are you using java 7 by chance?
#4062 [21:52] <kitasokaru> idk. I was told it needed an update so I just did the usual and installed it. I have no idea what number it was
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#4064 [21:53] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: http://javatester.org/version.html
#4065 [21:53] <wdan> Wugbot: here is the link http://pastebin.com/te1CwRnY
#4066 [21:54] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: what does the pink box say?
#4067 [21:54] <kitasokaru> 1.7.0_01
#4068 [21:54] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, AmigaOS, or ShadOS 486?
#4069 [21:54] <kitasokaru> Windows 7
#4070 [21:54] <Wug> kitasokaru: java 7 sometimes causes connection issues
#4071 [21:54] <Wug> uninstall it and install this version instead:
#4072 [21:54] <Wug> :j
#4073 [21:54] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#4074 [21:55] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: open the run dialog (Win+R) and type appwiz.cpl and... do what wug just said
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#4076 [21:57] <Wug> wdan: hang on
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#4078 [21:57] <wdan> I'm still here, Thanks
#4079 [21:57] <Wug> wdan: go here: http://driveragent.com/0/instructions
#4080 [21:57] <|Kiikun|> :P
#4081 [21:57] <Differ> I purchased an account approx. 5 hours ago, received confirmation of payment on my email account ... but the site claims we still need to purchase a premium account?
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#4085 [21:58] <Wug> install the driver agent thing and use it to try to update your drivers
#4086 [21:58] <|Kiikun|> Differ: did you get a second email from mojang?
#4087 [21:58] <Differ> No.
#4088 [21:58] <kitasokaru> ok that's installed now what?
#4089 [21:58] <Differ> Just the first email indicating that I had purchased the game.
#4090 [21:59] <|Kiikun|> Differ: mojang will send you a email once your status is premium. the first em,ail is your reciept from moneybookers or paypal.
#4091 [21:59] <|Kiikun|> ?? payment
#4092 [21:59] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#4093 [21:59] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#4094 [21:59] <Differ> Ok thanks ... we will wait.
#4095 [22:00] <Differ> "Differ" out. ;-)
#4096 [22:01] * |Kiikun| adds javatester to aliases.
#4096 [22:01] <Wug> javatester?
#4097 [22:01] <|Kiikun|> http://javatester.org/version.html
#4098 [22:01] <kitasokaru> COuld it have something to do with the fact that I don't know my router username and password? Do I need to access that first?
#4099 [22:01] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: thats only if you were hosting. you still intend to host?
#4100 [22:02] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: your connection issues are java 7.
#4101 [22:02] <kitasokaru> I was going to but at this point just connecting would be nice
#4102 [22:02] <|Kiikun|> ?? java/1.7
#4103 [22:02] <VoxelHead> java/1.7: Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#4104 [22:03] <kitasokaru> I removed 7
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#4106 [22:03] <|Kiikun|> install java 6 update 30 and you shoudl be fine then.
#4107 [22:04] <kitasokaru> What if I attempt to connect to a server and it says the server is outdated?
#4108 [22:04] <|Kiikun|> that meas you connected and the server isnt updated for 1.1 yet.
#4109 [22:04] <|Kiikun|> 1 sec and ill kick my test server on
#4110 [22:04] <kitasokaru> ok
#4111 [22:04] <|Kiikun|> ;ip
#4112 [22:04] <WugBot> IP address of |Kiikun| is: 75.27.145.86
#4113 [22:04] <|Kiikun|> connect to my ip.
#4114 [22:05] * |Kiikun| just updated the test server to 1.1 :P
#4114 [22:06] <kitasokaru> Respone was failed to connect to the server the connection was refused: connect
#4115 [22:06] <mr_pants> i am trying to play but since this morning i was able to log on but when it loads the menu it automatically closes and does not let me play
#4116 [22:07] * |Kiikun| blinks and checks router
#4116 [22:09] * mib_pycdpa [mib_pycdpa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4117 [22:09] <|Kiikun|> !check
#4118 [22:09] <|Kiikun|> o.o;
#4119 [22:09] <|Kiikun|> ok... not me..
#4120 [22:09] <kitasokaru> ?
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#4122 [22:09] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: might still be firewall thing because my server didnt even see you
#4123 [22:10] <kitasokaru> hmmm
#4124 [22:10] <|Kiikun|> and brb food done
#4125 [22:10] <Wug> ;check |Kiikun|
#4126 [22:10] <WugBot> adsl-75-27-145-86.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: World of Sennyo (0/3)
#4127 [22:10] <mib_pycdpa> Bought game but can't sign in , says user not premium
#4128 [22:10] <Wug> mib_pycdpa: how long ago did you buy it
#4129 [22:10] <mib_pycdpa> yesterday
#4130 [22:10] <Wug> and did one of the pages indicate that an error had occurred?
#4131 [22:10] <kitasokaru> ok that worked. My firewall turned itself off. =\
#4132 [22:10] <kitasokaru> or on that is
#4133 [22:11] <kitasokaru> XD
#4134 [22:11] <mib_pycdpa> nope
#4135 [22:11] <Wug> mib_pycdpa: what is your account name
#4136 [22:11] <mr_pants> i am trying to play but since this morning i was able to log on but when it loads the menu it automatically closes and does not let me play
#4137 [22:11] <mib_pycdpa> willywilly2
#4138 [22:11] <Wug> ;hp willywilly2
#4139 [22:11] <WugBot> willywilly2 has NOT paid for minecraft.
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#4141 [22:11] <Wug> :payment/stopped > mib_pycdpa
#4142 [22:11] <WugBot> mib_pycdpa: (payment/stopped) Banks, credit card companies, etc. frequently stop minecraft purchases for your protection because they are international transactions. You may have to call your financial institution and ask that they approve the transfer.
#4143 [22:11] <WugBot> mib_pycdpa: (payment/stopped) If you're not sure what to say, tell them: "I would like to make an international purchase and payment is being declined. How would I go about approving the purchase?"
#4144 [22:12] <kitasokaru> So I guess if I want to play on a server I create I'm gonna have to figure out my routers username and password. =\
#4145 [22:12] <Wug> mr_pants: ok, can you check if java is up to date?
#4146 [22:12] <mib_pycdpa> ok. thx
#4147 [22:12] <gamefreak713> Everytime I try to play Minecraft on my web broswer, it says its loading then goes all white.Why is this?
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#4150 [22:13] <mr_pants> well i have java Version 6 Update 30
#4151 [22:13] <Wug> gamefreak713: does it work if you play with the download client?
#4152 [22:14] <gamefreak713> Nope, same thing happens
#4153 [22:14] <Wug> mr_pants: ok, can you check if your graphics hardware is up to date?
#4154 [22:14] <Wug> :dx > mr_pants
#4155 [22:14] <WugBot> mr_pants: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4156 [22:14] <WugBot> mr_pants: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#4157 [22:14] <Wug> gamefreak713: has it ever worked before
#4158 [22:14] <gamefreak713> This is my first time i just bought it
#4159 [22:14] <Wug> gamefreak713: check if java is up to date
#4160 [22:14] <|Kiikun|> kitasokaru: go and make an exception in the firewall for java and minecraft.
#4161 [22:15] <Wug> tell us the exact version number you have installed
#4162 [22:15] <gamefreak713> Ok i'll check
#4163 [22:17] <kitasokaru> alright
#4164 [22:19] <gamefreak713> I have the latest
#4165 [22:19] <Wug> tell us the exact version number you have installed
#4166 [22:21] <|Kiikun|> gamefreak713: Please tell us what version of Java you are running. http://javatester.org/version.html
#4167 [22:21] <mr_pants> i cannot find the link
#4168 [22:22] <|Kiikun|> mr_pants: you clicked submit? its in the address bar.
#4169 [22:23] <mr_pants> http://pastebin.com/RFCmcfDc
#4170 [22:29] <|Kiikun|> mr_pants: download and install this. http://downloadmirror.intel.com/17407/a08/winvista_15124.exe
#4171 [22:29] <gamefreak713> i still cant find what version it is
#4172 [22:30] <|Kiikun|> gamefreak713: Please tell us what version of Java you are running. http://javatester.org/version.html
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#4174 [22:32] <liamj> Hi I am new to MineCraft. I just purchase the game and downloaded it. When I try to run it Windows just gives an error "beep" and nothing further happens
#4175 [22:33] <Wug> liamj: what version of java are you using
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#4177 [22:34] <liamj> Version 6 update 29 according to the Java icon in Control Panel
#4178 [22:34] <Wug> liamj: judging by the error you're getting, I suspect java may be broken
#4179 [22:35] <Wug> uninstall all versions of it and come back
#4180 [22:35] <liamj> OK will do thanks
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#4184 [22:43] <liamj> Went to java.com downloaded and installed lattest version (6 update 30) installed it OK, and ran the verify link at the site - all looked OK, still no joy unfortunately
#4185 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> liamj - Could you please use these instructions to try and launch minecraft. It'll pop up a command prompt window, hopefully with the error: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
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#4188 [22:45] <joe> Hey We Have a Spammer who has many acounts how do i get his ip banned from minecrafted all together
#4189 [22:45] <|Kiikun|> joe: cant. though you can ipban him from the server
#4190 [22:45] <|Kiikun|> ban-ip
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#4192 [22:46] <Wug> mib_osfrrk: still having issues?
#4193 [22:46] <joe> okay because another player said it was possible to ban him from minecraft all together because i am not admin
#4194 [22:46] <mib_osfrrk> i was mr_pants and what do i do after i download that link and my cpu resets
#4195 [22:46] <ferdinand> i cant find any minecraft servers that actually work do you know any
#4196 [22:47] <|Kiikun|> ??> ferdinand smp/servers
#4197 [22:47] <VoxelHead> ferdinand: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#4198 [22:47] <VoxelHead> ferdinand: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#4199 [22:48] <mib_osfrrk> i was mr_pants and what do i do after i download that link and my cpu resets
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#4201 [22:48] <joseph> sorry lost connection
#4202 [22:48] <joseph> and ideas on how i would do that
#4203 [22:49] <joseph> get him banned??>
#4204 [22:50] <Wug> ....
#4205 [22:51] <|Kiikun|> joe: you can get one of ther admins on the server he's spammign to ban his ip
#4206 [22:51] <mib_osfrrk> hello
#4207 [22:52] <liamj> Thanks it seems to run that way - I do not know why - weird
#4208 [22:53] <mib_osfrrk> hello i was mr_pants and what do i do after i download that link and my cpu resets
#4209 [22:54] <|Kiikun|> mib_osfrrk: after the drive is installed, try minecraft again.
#4210 [22:55] <mib_osfrrk> ya it works know thank you very much
#4211 [22:55] <Wug> mib_osfrrk: glad it works
#4212 [22:55] <Wug> we know you were mr_pants, we have a bot that tells us
#4213 [22:55] * Wug wugs hugbot
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#4216 [23:08] <mib_f19ifr> hello i want my money back how do i work this out?
#4217 [23:08] * WugBot kicked |Kiikun|Janus| from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Kiikun|Janus| :Kicked by |Kiikun|) (ghost!!!!!!)
#4218 [23:09] <|Kiikun|> mib_f19ifr: dont like the game or having technical probs?
#4219 [23:09] <mib_f19ifr> any one there
#4220 [23:09] <mib_f19ifr> i bought two games one works and the other crashes
#4221 [23:10] <|Kiikun|> i asume the crashing one is on a different computer?
#4222 [23:10] <mib_f19ifr> two different labtops but both the same hp and its the pavillion g7 its brand new
#4223 [23:10] <mib_f19ifr> its just odd that one works and the other doesnt it crashes and laggs alot
#4224 [23:12] <mib_f19ifr> ive tried fixing the lagg but ive grown tired of it the only reason why i bought it was to play for multiplayer
#4225 [23:12] <|Kiikun|> crashign can be related to something installed on the one crashing. we can try and help you fix it... otherwise if you just dont care and want a refund... http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#4226 [23:12] <|Kiikun|> and laptops generally arnt good for gaming most of the time.
#4227 [23:13] <mib_f19ifr> hmmm well how can i fix the lagg and my labtop is the same as the other one even bought it at the same day and its everything the same and it works perfect
#4228 [23:13] <mib_f19ifr> no lagg or anything
#4229 [23:14] <mib_f19ifr> if i cant fix it then i would like my money back please :(
#4230 [23:14] <|Kiikun|> ?? support
#4231 [23:14] <VoxelHead> support: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#4232 [23:15] * mib_01ym7w [mib_01ym7w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4233 [23:15] <mib_f19ifr> okay but i payed threw credit card how will i know if i got my money back?
#4234 [23:17] * |Kiikun| islooking at g7's since mib isnt the first one with problems with one
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#4236 [23:17] <mib_ae5bsm> i downloaded it but it says i didnt buy it when i did
#4237 [23:17] <|Kiikun|> mib_ae5bsm: minecraft username?
#4238 [23:18] <mib_ae5bsm> x_Slave_x
#4239 [23:18] <|Kiikun|> !paid x_Slave_x
#4240 [23:18] <|Kiikun|> mib_ae5bsm: how long ago did you buy the game?
#4241 [23:18] <mib_ae5bsm> like an hour ago
#4242 [23:18] <|Kiikun|> mib_ae5bsm: also, what site did you purchase it from?
#4243 [23:18] <|Kiikun|> ?? payment
#4244 [23:18] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#4245 [23:18] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#4246 [23:19] <mib_ae5bsm> iok
#4247 [23:19] <mib_ae5bsm> i bought it on the website
#4248 [23:19] <mib_ae5bsm> minecraft.net
#4249 [23:19] <Wug> |Kiikun|: you know, you can ghost ghosts
#4250 [23:19] <|Kiikun|> i know :P id rather just kick it :D
#4251 [23:19] <Wug> /ns ghost
#4252 [23:20] <mib_ae5bsm> ?
#4253 [23:20] <mib_ae5bsm> i need help here
#4254 [23:20] <|Kiikun|> mib_ae5bsm: not related to you :P
#4255 [23:20] <Omega_Guardian> ah, ghosting. Slightly disturbing when it happens, and even creepier when it's not the irc kind of ghosting :P
#4256 [23:20] <mib_f19ifr> is it going to be inpossible to get my money back -_-
#4257 [23:20] <|Kiikun|> mib_ae5bsm: you just need to be patient. youll get emails when payment has been passed through
#4258 [23:20] <mib_ae5bsm> u guys are ok
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#4260 [23:22] <mib_f19ifr> the website you gave me does not help me in which or how i can get my money back
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#4262 [23:22] <|Kiikun|> mib_f19ifr: payment > refund
#4263 [23:22] <mib_f19ifr> yea i went there but
#4264 [23:23] <mib_f19ifr> there was no information or anything for me to write down or take down
#4265 [23:24] <|Kiikun|> mib_f19ifr: you clicked the payment radio button then the refund radio button?
#4266 [23:25] <|Kiikun|> and theres MANY DIFFERENT g7s apparently... *still trying to figure out what the default video card is*
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#4268 [23:25] <mib_f19ifr> lol im so sorry dont go threw the trouble just help me get a refund lol and i cant find the payment radio button
#4269 [23:26] <mib_f19ifr> i clicked payment then refund and it gave me a mini peragraph
#4270 [23:26] <TheWonderNuts> i need help from somebody with a mac :s
#4271 [23:26] <|Kiikun|> yes. read that
#4272 [23:26] <|Kiikun|> yes. read that
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#4274 [23:27] <TheWonderNuts> anybody..mac?
#4275 [23:27] <mib_f19ifr> cant i just get my money back from the bank?
#4276 [23:27] <mib_f19ifr> i dont have a mac they are very complicated :(
#4277 [23:27] <TheWonderNuts> :(
#4278 [23:27] <TheWonderNuts> my mc application isn't responding -.-
#4279 [23:27] <Wug> Scott: doop
#4280 [23:27] <TheWonderNuts> and redownloading it doesnt do anything
#4281 [23:27] <Wug> TheWonderNuts: try force closing it and restarting it
#4282 [23:27] <TheWonderNuts> it wont open at all
#4283 [23:28] <Scott> TheWonderNuts: You have… about 5 minute of my time
#4284 [23:28] <Scott> minutes*
#4285 [23:28] <mib_f19ifr> it says "we do not issue refunds for purchased game ect"
#4286 [23:28] <TheWonderNuts> ok when i click on the application it bounces once then doesn't open at all
#4287 [23:28] <Scott> What OS?
#4288 [23:28] <TheWonderNuts> mac
#4289 [23:28] <Scott> Obviously
#4290 [23:28] <Scott> But what verison?
#4291 [23:28] <Scott> version*
#4292 [23:28] <TheWonderNuts> oh my bad haha
#4293 [23:28] <TheWonderNuts> 10.5.8
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#4295 [23:29] <Scott> Apple menu > Software Update
#4296 [23:29] <Scott> is it all up to date?
#4297 [23:29] * |Kiikun| facepalms
#4297 [23:29] <TheWonderNuts> only update available is itunes, doubt that has anything to do with it
#4298 [23:29] <Scott> OK.
#4299 [23:29] <Scott> Where is the Minecraft.app located?
#4300 [23:29] <mib_f19ifr> im so fusterated now D:
#4301 [23:30] <TheWonderNuts> umm my applications i believe? when i unpack it it all goes into a folder which im told to put in the applications
#4302 [23:30] <Scott> Good.
#4303 [23:30] <Scott> open the Terminal app under Utilities
#4304 [23:30] <Scott> and type this: chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#4305 [23:30] <|Kiikun|> mib_f19ifr: finally dound a dxdiag of a g7... they have intel hd for video and intel is bad with opengl implementation. that woudl cause video lag running thegame at higher quality.
#4306 [23:31] <|Kiikun|> mib_f19ifr: lowe the game quality and window size and it shoud lrun better. you can also look up the optifine mod and see if that helps as well
#4307 [23:31] <TheWonderNuts> ok scott i did
#4308 [23:31] <Scott> Now try openign the game
#4309 [23:32] <TheWonderNuts> ok scott, is there anyway i could KISS YOU RIGHT NOW?
#4310 [23:32] <Scott> My boyfriend would not approve.
#4311 [23:32] <TheWonderNuts> ive been trying to fix this for ages :D
#4312 [23:32] <|Kiikun|> mib_f19ifr: and since you fail at reading the paragraph on the support page i will repeat it. mojang doesnt give refunds. and we are NOT mojang in here... so we cant give you refunds either
#4313 [23:32] <Scott> GLad it's fixed. :)
#4314 [23:32] <TheWonderNuts> i really appreciate it man <3
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#4317 [23:33] <mib_f19ifr> ......damm i just got it lol!
#4318 [23:34] <djnever00> hi im running java 7, just updated to version 1.1 of minecraft and played for about 20 mins, then went to chang vid settings and it crashed, tried 2 more times from the main menu and it crashed both times
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#4320 [23:34] <Scott> Java 7 isn't supported.
#4321 [23:34] <Scott> Remove it and install Java 6.
#4322 [23:34] <djnever00> k
#4323 [23:34] <Wug> Scott: chmod fix?
#4324 [23:34] * Wug files away
#4324 [23:34] <Scott> It's a leopard issue
#4325 [23:34] <Scott> it doesn't happen all the time either
#4326 [23:35] * |Kiikun| shakes head at mac derpery.
#4326 [23:35] <mib_f19ifr> so let me get this sraight i am screwed with this game like it or not :(
#4327 [23:35] <Gramma> I can't connect to a server, everyone else says its up, not for me. also, when i try to log into a server that IS up, it takes so long to log in, it disconnects.
#4328 [23:35] <mib_f19ifr> stright*
#4329 [23:36] <|Kiikun|> Gramma: do you happen to be running java 7?
#4330 [23:36] <Omega_Guardian> I'd be 90% sure it'd be fixable, if one had used a demo/trial/cracked version there might be issues though unless you removed the files right
#4331 [23:36] <Gramma> mmm, how do i check?
#4332 [23:36] <Eddie> <TheWonderNuts> ok scott, is there anyway i could KISS YOU RIGHT NOW?
#4333 [23:37] * Eddie takes out a shotgun
#4333 [23:37] <|Kiikun|> lol
#4334 [23:37] <Scott> toldya
#4335 [23:37] <|Kiikun|> Gramma: Please tell us what version of Java you are running. http://javatester.org/version.html
#4336 [23:38] <Gramma> 1.6.0_29...
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#4338 [23:39] <djnever00> same crash on java 6 30
#4339 [23:39] <|Kiikun|> Gramma: it could be your firewall then. try disabling it temporarilly and trying to connect again.
#4340 [23:39] <Gramma> alright.
#4341 [23:39] <Omega_Guardian> software firewall?
#4342 [23:40] <mib_f19ifr> OKAY sence i am totally screwed how in the world can i fix this lag? the internet is top notch even in single player it lags
#4343 [23:40] <Wug> mib_f19ifr: its the computer then, not the internet
#4344 [23:40] <Wug> djnever00: are you on 32 bit or 64 bit windows
#4345 [23:40] <djnever00> 64
#4346 [23:40] <Omega_Guardian> turn view distance to normal, maybe check that ctrl-alt-delete thing to see if something is maxing out the cpu.
#4347 [23:41] <Wug> do you have 64 bit java?
#4348 [23:41] <djnever00> yup
#4349 [23:41] <Wug> its probably a graphics driver issue then
#4350 [23:41] <djnever00> k
#4351 [23:41] <Wug> :dx > djnever00
#4352 [23:41] <WugBot> djnever00: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4353 [23:41] <WugBot> djnever00: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#4354 [23:42] <Gramma> after disabling both of my firewalls the problem was the same.
#4355 [23:42] <|Kiikun|> [23:30] <+|Kiikun|> mib_f19ifr: finally dound a dxdiag of a g7... they have intel hd for video and intel is bad with opengl implementation. that woudl cause video lag running thegame at higher quality.
#4356 [23:42] <|Kiikun|> [23:31] <+|Kiikun|> mib_f19ifr: lowe the game quality and window size and it shoud lrun better. you can also look up the optifine mod and see if that helps as well
#4357 [23:42] <Wug> Gramma: what server are you trying to login to
#4358 [23:43] <Gramma> mc.zeldathon.net
#4359 [23:43] <|Kiikun|> !check mc.zeldathon.net
#4360 [23:43] <|Kiikun|> it down,
#4361 [23:43] <Gramma> that one says its downm but other tell me its up.
#4362 [23:43] <|Kiikun|> Gramma: try connecting to 75.27.145.86
#4363 [23:43] <Wug> Gramma: that one is indeed down
#4364 [23:43] <Wug> what does the other one say when you try to connect to it
#4365 [23:44] <Wug> "outdated server" by any chance?
#4366 [23:44] <Gramma> nope, i havent updated to 1.1 yet.
#4367 [23:44] <djnever00> http://pastebin.com/Bfd765j8
#4368 [23:44] <Wug> have the servers updated but you havent?
#4369 [23:44] <|Kiikun|> Gramma: try mc.minecraftirc.net
#4370 [23:44] * |Kiikun| closes the 1.1 server
#4370 [23:44] <oldtopman> Wug: Its down. Connection Refused.
#4371 [23:45] <Gramma> nope, ive talked to the server admins and they are waiting for plugin updates.
#4372 [23:45] <Wug> oldtopman: whats down
#4373 [23:45] <Wug> ;check mc.minecraftirc.net
#4374 [23:45] <WugBot> mc.minecraftirc.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: The Official Minecraft IRC Server (0/50)
#4375 [23:45] <Gramma> other servers say "disconnected by server : took too long to log in"
#4376 [23:45] <auscompgeek> ;login
#4377 [23:45] <Wug> Gramma: have you updated java lately
#4378 [23:45] <auscompgeek> er...
#4379 [23:45] <Gramma> no,
#4380 [23:45] <|Kiikun|> !login
#4381 [23:46] <Wug> auscompgeek: login is an aubot command
#4382 [23:46] <auscompgeek> Right.
#4383 [23:46] <oldtopman> Wug: Gramma's server
#4384 [23:46] <oldtopman> !login
#4385 [23:46] <auscompgeek> oldtopman: we established that
#4386 [23:46] <oldtopman> auscompgeek: Chill out.
#4387 [23:46] <Gramma> ok, the minecraftirc server worked...
#4388 [23:47] <oldtopman> I wondered what it did.
#4389 [23:47] <auscompgeek> oldtopman: no, the previous line
#4390 [23:47] <Wug> Gramma: IF that one worked then theres something wrong with the server you're trying to connect to
#4391 [23:47] <mib_f19ifr> i barly have several days with it and i want a refund
#4392 [23:47] <Gramma> both of them?
#4393 [23:47] <Wug> one of them is offline completely
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#4395 [23:47] <TheWonderNuts> Another Question!
#4396 [23:48] <Gramma> two different severs have disconnected me for taking too long to log in.
#4397 [23:48] <Wug> the other is having issues of some sort
#4398 [23:48] <|Kiikun|> mib_f19ifr: email help@mojang.com
#4399 [23:48] <oldtopman> auscompgeek: I missed it. Just leave me alone.
#4400 [23:48] <Wug> Gramma: its possible that they are 1.1.0 servers
#4401 [23:48] <Gramma> ok, let me update and try...
#4402 [23:49] <Wug> make a backup first
#4403 [23:49] <TheWonderNuts> i'm trying to downgrade to 1.0 for a server on mac and it just says updating minecraft done loading and won't go anywhere
#4404 [23:49] <Wug> TheWonderNuts: how are you downgrading
#4405 [23:49] <TheWonderNuts> my friend sent me a .jar that is for 1.0, so im just taking out my .jar and putting in that one
#4406 [23:49] <TheWonderNuts> it worked for him and one other person
#4407 [23:50] <Wug> thats not technically legal
#4408 [23:50] <TheWonderNuts> o.o
#4409 [23:50] <TheWonderNuts> never mind then i guess
#4410 [23:50] <Wug> without being about to restore from a known good copy there is nothing I can do to help
#4411 [23:51] <TheWonderNuts> ok thanks anyway
#4412 [23:51] <Wug> though, I have an ide
#4413 [23:51] <TheWonderNuts> ?
#4414 [23:51] <Wug> open a termian
#4415 [23:51] <Wug> terminal*
#4416 [23:51] <Gramma> yeah, the other servers mustve been updated.
#4417 [23:51] <TheWonderNuts> btw, i bought my copy of minecraft if thats what your saying
#4418 [23:52] <Wug> TheWonderNuts: open a terminal
#4419 [23:52] <TheWonderNuts> it is open
#4420 [23:52] <Gramma> guess i'll wait until tomorrow and talk to the owner of the server that some people tell me is up.
#4421 [23:52] <Wug> Gramma: that would probably do
#4422 [23:52] <Gramma> thanks for your help.
#4423 [23:52] <Wug> TheWonderNuts: use this command: cd "~/Library/Application support/minecraft"
#4424 [23:53] <Gramma> also, about java 7, is it ok to update to java 7?
#4425 [23:53] <Wug> Gramma: I'd stick with 6
#4426 [23:53] <Gramma> alright, will do. thanks, later.
#4427 [23:53] <Wug> you can install 7 and test to see if it works, but people sometimes have issues with it
#4428 [23:53] <djnever00> any idea on mine?
#4429 [23:53] <TheWonderNuts> do i need the " or did you just put that?
#4430 [23:54] <Wug> TheWonderNuts: you need it
#4431 [23:54] <Wug> djnever00: to be honest, no
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#4433 [23:54] <Wug> graphics drivers are up to date, card is ok
#4434 [23:54] <djnever00> lol k, i sent a copy of the crash to support@majong.com, ill see if they say anything
#4435 [23:54] <Wug> can you give us the crash report?
#4436 [23:54] <Wug> pastebin it
#4437 [23:54] <mib_f19ifr> jeez im in the verge of crying!! i waisted 55 dollers on this game that does not work!!
#4438 [23:54] <djnever00> k
#4439 [23:55] <balt11t> when I try to log in to minecraft, it says it can't connect to minecraft.net, but I can connect to minecraft.net just fine in a browser
#4440 [23:55] <Wug> mib_f19ifr: $55 on a $25 game?
#4441 [23:55] <Omega_Guardian> could be the login server is down again
#4442 [23:55] <Wug> balt11t: disable your firewalls
#4443 [23:55] <TheWonderNuts> wug that code isnt work, but if you just need me to go to my application support i know how to get there :s
#4444 [23:55] <mib_f19ifr> yes becuase i bought two! and in total it was that and its not 25 anymore its 26 with tax
#4445 [23:55] <balt11t> I'm on Linux, no firewalls
#4446 [23:55] <djnever00> http://pastebin.com/ZuGEVGFw
#4447 [23:55] <Wug> Omega_Guardian: doubtfuj
#4448 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> balt11t - Check your system time/date?
#4449 [23:56] <Wug> TheWonderNuts: have you done it? is the terminal still open?
#4450 [23:56] <TheWonderNuts> terminal is open still, but its saying no such directory. i can manually get there i think
#4451 [23:56] <balt11t> Sat Jan 14 23:56:52 EST 2012, GreyVulpine
#4452 [23:56] <Wug> TheWonderNuts: cd to it manually then
#4453 [23:57] <Wug> balt11t: check firewall then
#4454 [23:57] <balt11t> I'm not running a firewall
#4455 [23:57] <Wug> windows firewall?
#4456 [23:57] <Wug> hmm wait, do you have java 7 installed?
#4457 [23:57] <TheWonderNuts> im there
#4458 [23:57] <balt11t> openjdk6
#4459 [23:58] <Wug> balt11t: what os are you on
#4460 [23:58] <balt11t> Arch
#4461 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> balt11t - Are you able to ping login.minecraft.net on that computer?
#4462 [23:58] <Wug> use chmod +x minecraft.jar
#4463 [23:58] <Wug> TheWonderNuts: ^
#4464 [23:58] <balt11t> yes I can
#4465 [23:58] <Wug> balt11t: install openssl?
#4466 [23:59] <Wug> I think thats what its called
#4467 [23:59] <balt11t> No luck for the chmod, I can already open it >.>
#4468 [23:59] <Wug> balt11t: does it say its not found?
#4469 [23:59] <balt11t> No, can't connect
#4470 [23:59] <Wug> balt11t: sorry, meant to ping TheWonderNuts