#1 [00:05] * Mraptor[Away] [Mraptor[Away]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2 [00:06] * DopeGhoti corrects a minor typo in that FAQ entry.
#2 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> s/or/nor?
#3 [00:10] <Eddie> s/nor/t
#4 [00:10] * Eddie snorts
#4 [00:10] <DopeGhoti> s/servers,/servers;/
#5 [00:14] <Eddie> Someone updated to 1.1 but wants to downgrade to 1.0
#6 [00:14] <Eddie> Do I tell him/her he/she can't legally do so if he/she doesn't have a copy of it?
#7 [00:15] <Grim_Reaper> Lol Eddie that MRCunnyFuny just pmed me too D:
#8 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> ?? oldversion
#9 [00:15] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#10 [00:15] <Eddie> Oh thank you
#11 [00:16] <Eddie> Really Grim_Reaper? lol
#12 [00:16] <Grim_Reaper> mhm :3
#13 [00:16] <Grim_Reaper> pmed me the same question
#14 [00:27] <DopeGhoti> ??> MrCunnyFuny dont/pm
#15 [00:27] <VoxelHead> MrCunnyFuny: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#16 [00:27] <DopeGhoti> damn, missed a >
#17 [00:27] <DopeGhoti> ??>> MrCunnyFuny dont/pm
#18 [00:28] <Eddie> he's not here.
#19 [00:28] <Eddie> he's in #minecraft
#20 [00:28] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#21 [00:29] * Grim_Reaper slides a cookie across the chat towards Eddie
#21 [00:29] <DopeGhoti> hence the intent to use >>, which sends a private notice.
#22 [00:29] * Chris [Chris@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#23 [00:29] <Eddie> I did not know that
#24 [00:29] <Eddie> please don't get mad. *cries*
#25 [00:29] <DopeGhoti> ??>> Eddie help
#26 [00:29] <Grim_Reaper> Lol
#27 [00:29] * DopeGhoti is not angry
#27 [00:30] <Grim_Reaper> DopeGhoti is high
#28 [00:30] <DopeGhoti> No, I'm roughly at sea level
#29 [00:30] <Grim_Reaper> The dope says otherwise
#30 [00:31] <DopeGhoti> well, perhaps a few hundred feet. Regardless, with a meter or so of AGL @ Sun City, AZ
#31 [00:31] <Grim_Reaper> brb tracing you to stalk
#32 [00:31] <DopeGhoti> good luck with that.
#33 [00:32] <Grim_Reaper> Thanks I'll need it <3
#34 [00:32] * Ignorama [Ignorama@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#35 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti's behind 20 routers, including bouncing off 4 satellites, and 2 microwave dishes.
#36 [00:32] <Grim_Reaper> Nice
#37 [00:33] <Grim_Reaper> Also hai GreyVulpine <3
#38 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> \o
#39 [00:33] <DopeGhoti> Don't forget the Jovian relay
#40 [00:33] <DopeGhoti> Hence all the latency
#41 [00:33] * GreyVulpine snrks
#41 [00:33] <Eddie> I'm behind Scott, beat that.
#42 [00:33] * DopeGhoti looks around the room he's in and counts two routers.
#42 [00:34] <Grim_Reaper> Eddie are you sure scott approves of you being behind him while afk D:
#43 [00:34] <DopeGhoti> Eddie: Behind every great man is another great man.
#44 [00:34] <Eddie> Thank you
#45 [00:34] <Eddie> Yes Grim_Reaper
#46 [00:34] <Grim_Reaper> Also sounds kinky
#47 [00:34] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#48 [00:34] <DopeGhoti> You know what's really kinky? Those bendy straws.
#49 [00:34] <Eddie> I could play with one for hours.
#50 [00:35] <Grim_Reaper> Mmm bendy straws
#51 [00:35] <Grim_Reaper> Wait why are they kinky o.o
#52 [00:35] <DopeGhoti> I find they tend to crack after too much use.
#53 [00:35] <Eddie> They do
#54 [00:35] <Eddie> hopefully the same is not true with bendy buses :s
#55 [00:35] <DopeGhoti> Grim_Reaper: before most marketing companies caught on, they were sold as 'kink straws'. Right there on the packaging.
#56 [00:36] <DopeGhoti> Eddie: fortunately, bendy busses are only intermittently bent. More fun for all.
#57 [00:36] <Grim_Reaper> holy snap
#58 [00:36] <Eddie> I do not like the spelling 'busses'
#59 [00:36] * Eddie coughs
#59 [00:36] <DopeGhoti> Eddie: you prefer, what? Beese?
#60 [00:36] <Eddie> buses
#61 [00:36] <DopeGhoti> but.. that's not how pluralization is _done_, sir.
#62 [00:37] <Eddie> Oh really?
#63 [00:37] * DopeGhoti tries to think of other nouns that end in one 's'.
#63 [00:38] <DopeGhoti> s/nouns/singular 7/
#64 [00:38] <DopeGhoti> ..
#65 [00:38] <DopeGhoti> s/7/&/
#66 [00:38] <Eddie> gas?
#67 [00:38] <DopeGhoti> gas --> gasses
#68 [00:38] * Eddie gasps
#68 [00:39] <DopeGhoti> ?define busses
#69 [00:39] <VoxelHead> Noun (1/5) (n) bus, autobus, coach, charabanc, double-decker, jitney, motorbus, motorcoach, omnibus, passenger vehicle (a vehicle carrying many passengers; used for public transport) "he always rode the bus to work"
#70 [00:39] <VoxelHead> Verb (1/4) (v) bus (send or move around by bus) "The children were bussed to school"
#71 [00:39] <DopeGhoti> Princeton also agrees with that being the correct plural form, apparently (:
#72 [00:40] <Eddie> Well it depends whether it's American or British spelling
#73 [00:40] <DopeGhoti> the wordform 'buses' implies a long 'u'
#74 [00:40] <DopeGhoti> (compare 'fuses')
#75 [00:40] <DopeGhoti> (and 'fusses')
#76 [00:40] <Eddie> yes
#77 [00:41] * peru [peru@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#78 [00:41] <Eddie> You are correct
#79 [00:41] <DopeGhoti> clearly the British pluralization of 'bus' is 'traffic congestion' (:
#80 [00:42] <Eddie> How naïve
#81 [00:44] <DopeGhoti> touché.
#82 [00:48] <Eddie> And here they claim one bus = 50 less vehicles on the streets
#83 [00:49] <Ketsueki> Eddie: no no, 'up to' except the people who could ride busses would probably be able to carpool.
#84 [00:49] <DopeGhoti> Eddie: lrn2douplespeak. "up to" means "less than".
#85 [00:49] <Ketsueki> So really it's more like 5-10 less cars; except during rush hour. However those less cars are only /during/ rush hour and you need all those busses at the same time.
#86 [00:49] <DopeGhoti> (and I'm in _favor_ of public transit, no matter how many times I nearly type it as 'pubic transit'.)
#87 [00:50] <Eddie> Why the spam highlighting?
#88 [00:51] <Ketsueki> I too am in favor of public transit; but it's got to be high-speed (few stop) light rail; AND they need to load that freaker up with all operating units during the rush hours; only taking them out of service during the lulls.
#89 [00:51] <Eddie> I'm not the one saying 1 bus = 50 less cars
#90 [00:51] <Eddie> they are.
#91 [00:51] <DopeGhoti> Damn They.
#92 [00:52] * Flying^Llama [Flying^Llama@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#93 [00:52] <Eddie> http://www.mouvementcollectif.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Sans-titre.jpg
#94 [00:52] <Flying^Llama> I was wondering if i can change my mincraft userername
#95 [00:52] <Eddie> It says it here lol
#96 [00:52] <Ketsueki> Hanging off that you need busses which form a nice mesh... Actually Portland (Oregon) got this largely correct. They just need a few more max-line cars and silent wheel cars for night runs (slow, less frequent, but still there)
#97 [00:53] <Flying^Llama> ???
#98 [00:53] <DopeGhoti> Flying^Llama: no, account names and related email addresses cannot currently be changed.
#99 [00:53] <Ketsueki> Flying^Llama: unpossible. Mojang sucks
#100 [00:53] <DopeGhoti> Ketsueki: it's not a Mojang sucking issue, it's a fraud prevention issue
#101 [00:53] <Flying^Llama> That sucks, thanks thoug
#102 [00:54] <DopeGhoti> it used to be doable, and then everyone was getting their accounts stolen
#103 [00:54] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: Really?
#104 [00:54] <Ketsueki> DopeGhoti: the ultimate endgame however is something I heard from a collegue and agree with; Google (or similar) self-driving cars which are the 'public transit' system... AKA 'Here's Johnny cab'
#105 [00:54] * GreyVulpine nods, "DG's correct"
#105 [00:54] <Ketsueki> DopeGhoti: No, the reason it's retarded is that they have your LOGIN name the same as your Display name
#106 [00:55] <Ketsueki> If the login name were secret and the display name not then it'd be /far/ less of an issue.
#107 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> Ketsueki - That issue will be addressed later on
#108 [00:55] <Flying^Llama> Would be good if they changed that
#109 [00:55] <DopeGhoti> Ketsueki: it's not outside the realm of possibility that adding a layer of abstraction there may happen. Not currently, though.
#110 [00:56] <DopeGhoti> nanite, folks
#111 [00:56] <Eddie> They should've thought about it.
#112 [00:56] * Finamenon [Finamenon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#113 [00:56] <Eddie> Those rascals.
#114 [00:56] <Ketsueki> DopeGhoti: I could actually care less about changing my /login/ name if they'd let me re-assign my display name.... (which would also be what server operators see and could resolve to a user ID- a thing unique to me but not within my control)
#115 [00:56] * mitch_ [mitch_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#116 [00:57] * Evixion [Evixion@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#117 [01:02] * Freddy [Freddy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#118 [01:02] * Cookies [Cookies@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#119 [01:02] * peru [peru@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#120 [01:03] * PapaMatschi [PapaMatschi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#121 [01:03] * peru_ [peru_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#122 [01:03] <PapaMatschi> ich brauche hilfe jemand da der deutsch lesen und schreiben kann?
#123 [01:05] <PapaMatschi> keiner da der mir helfen kann?
#124 [01:05] * peru__ [peru__@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#125 [01:06] <PapaMatschi> :-(
#126 [01:06] <PapaMatschi> hallo?
#127 [01:06] <DopeGhoti> PapaMatschi: Was ist Los?
#128 [01:07] <PapaMatschi> DopeGhoti moin hier ich habe ein problem und zwar kann ich minecraft nicht starten weil anscheind meine grafikkarte nicht auf dem neusten stand ist, habe eben ein update drauf gemacht aber irgendwie geht es immer noch nicht warum das?
#129 [01:09] <DopeGhoti> Welches Graffikkarte haben Sie?
#130 [01:10] <PapaMatschi> Ich habe eine Intel 82945G Express Family Chipsatz
#131 [01:11] <DopeGhoti> Auf der folgenden URL erhalten Sie die neuesten Treiber für Ihre Grafikkarte.
#132 [01:11] <DopeGhoti> ?? gpu/intel
#133 [01:11] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#134 [01:12] <PapaMatschi> Da war ich ja und habe mir da den neusten runtergeladen aber irgendwie geht es nicht ich weiß nicht warum...
#135 [01:12] * alfroger [alfroger@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#136 [01:13] <DopeGhoti> Haben Sie den Computer neu gestartet, nachdem sie zu installieren?
#137 [01:13] <PapaMatschi> mein Computer hat selbst einen neustart gemacht
#138 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> RAM?
#139 [01:14] <PapaMatschi> wo sehe ich da?
#140 [01:15] <DopeGhoti> Rechts-Uhr auf "My Computer", und wählen Sie Eigenschaften. Sie werden sehen, wie viel RAM auf Ihrem Computer auf das Fenster, das auf dem Bildschirm erscheint.
#141 [01:15] <alfroger> Is this where I can ask for help getting MineCraft to run? (It crashes within a minute or so, and I've tried everything that the wiki's help FAQ suggests... The error log is here: http://pastebin.com/rVVY4pf8)
#142 [01:15] <DopeGhoti> ..."Rechts-Uhr" ist veilleiche nicht gut überzetzung.
#143 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> alfroger - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#144 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> ??> alfroger win/dxdiag
#145 [01:16] <VoxelHead> alfroger: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#146 [01:16] <VoxelHead> alfroger: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#147 [01:16] <DopeGhoti> PapaMatschi: ↑ Auch das, bitte.
#148 [01:16] <alfroger> 1 min
#149 [01:18] <PapaMatschi> also 2,66GHz und 0,99 RAM
#150 [01:18] <alfroger> just the first page, or shall i get all the pages?
#151 [01:19] <PapaMatschi> das spiel kann ich nicht starten weil mir gesagt wird das meine Grafikkarte nicht gut genug ist um es zu spielen da würde mir irgendwas von OpenGL fehlen oder so
#152 [01:19] <DopeGhoti> Ihr Computer hat nicht genug RAM; Minecraft allein braucht 1GB, die nichts für Windows verlassen würde.
#153 [01:20] <PapaMatschi> also fehlt mir 0,1 RAM mehr um es spielen zu können?
#154 [01:20] <alfroger> OK, here's the dxdiag results: http://pastebin.com/Zc3ADBvL
#155 [01:20] <alfroger> thanks so much!
#156 [01:21] <DopeGhoti> Ich würde empfehlen, dass Sie Ihren Computer ein Upgrade auf mindestens 2 GB RAM.
#157 [01:22] <PapaMatschi> ein Update? muss ich mir das nicht kaufen also mehr RAM?
#158 [01:24] <DopeGhoti> Ich glaube, dass nur 1GB nicht genug für Minecraft ist. Sollen Sie mehr RAM einkaufen.
#159 [01:24] <DopeGhoti> Ich glaube, dass nur 1GB nicht genug für Minecraft ist. Sollen Sie mehr RAM einkaufen.
#160 [01:24] * mitch_ [mitch_@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#161 [01:24] <PapaMatschi> okay also am besten gleich einen neuen PC
#162 [01:25] <DopeGhoti> Wenn Sie das tun, dass das neue PC hat mindestens 2 GB RAM.
#163 [01:25] <PapaMatschi> ja okay aber sonst kann ich nix machen? auch wenns geht nur offline spielen?
#164 [01:26] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft, auch offline, benötigt 1 GB RAM zu sich selbst, was nichts für Windows verlassen. Wenn es überhaupt ausgeführt wurden, wäre es unspielbar langsam.
#165 [01:26] <DopeGhoti> Tut mir Leid.
#166 [01:27] <PapaMatschi> okay Danke, aber warum kann ich die Demo spielen?
#167 [01:27] <DopeGhoti> ??> PapaMatschi demo
#168 [01:27] <VoxelHead> PapaMatschi: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#169 [01:27] <VoxelHead> PapaMatschi: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#170 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> alfroger - Do you know how to update your video drivers?
#171 [01:28] <alfroger> my video drivers are updated already
#172 [01:29] <PapaMatschi> die Minecraft demo
#173 [01:29] <GreyVulpine> You sure? Those video drivers are from 2005
#174 [01:30] <DopeGhoti> http://is.gd/l507ow fur die Demo, PapaMatschi.
#175 [01:30] <alfroger> GreyVulpine: yes, on the dell support site, that's the latest version....
#176 [01:30] <PapaMatschi> die demo habe ich ja aber warum kann ich die spielen aber das original nicht?
#177 [01:30] <alfroger> GreyVulpine: And ATI just points me back to Dell
#178 [01:31] <DopeGhoti> Die Demo ist Älter.
#179 [01:32] <PapaMatschi> und deswegen geht es nicht? naja okay trotzdem danke
#180 [01:32] <DopeGhoti> Bitte sehr, PapaMatschi.
#181 [01:33] <PapaMatschi> ich bin dann weg byebye
#182 [01:34] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#183 [01:34] <alfroger> GreyVulpine: In Display Properties | Settings | Advanced, there are OpenGL settings...
#184 [01:35] <alfroger> GreyVulpine: but i don't see a version number of OpenGL
#185 [01:35] * jackbull14 [jackbull14@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#186 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> I'm thinking the drivers are just out of date.
#187 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> Can't find where to get a later version for that X300 though
#188 [01:36] <|Kiikun|> grey.. 2008?
#189 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> Mini VDD Date: 8/3/2005
#190 [01:36] <|Kiikun|> .,. oh x300 raedon.. nm :P
#191 [01:36] <jackbull14> hi habe mincraft ausversehen 2 mal gekauft kann ich von ein kauf wider zurück treten
#192 [01:36] * |Kiikun| thoguth it was the intel gma300
#192 [01:37] <alfroger> i'd be willing to try installing ubuntu on this machine if you thought there was a reasonable chance that would make things work, but if X300 is just too old...
#193 [01:37] <DopeGhoti> alfroger: it might be worth firing up a LiveCD, that'd tell you one way or the other.
#194 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> The x300 is pretty old.. but I think I've seen it working before.
#195 [01:38] <alfroger> from an ubuntu live cd, i should be able to tell whether minecraft would run?
#196 [01:40] <alfroger> i'm rather a newbie on linux... wouldn't a live cd need a driver for the x300 just the same?
#197 [01:41] <|Kiikun|> livecds tend to have.... everything
#198 [01:41] <DopeGhoti> alfroger: the liveCD is designed, IIRC, to have the GPU driver pre-installed. Failing that, you can do a Wubi install and remove it if you don't like it
#199 [01:42] <alfroger> ok, i'll give it a try... but this kind of crash seems consistent with video driver issues?
#200 [01:43] * Oerg866 [Oerg866@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#201 [01:44] * guacamole [guacamole@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#202 [01:44] * GreyVulpine nods
#202 [01:44] <alfroger> hey, thanks so much! i sure appreciate your help!
#203 [01:45] <guacamole> hallo habe ausversehen 2 mal minecraft gekauft kann ich von ein kauf zurückttreten
#204 [01:45] <guacamole> hallo habe ausversehen 2 mal minecraft gekauft kann ich von ein kauf zurückttreten
#205 [01:46] * alfroger [alfroger@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#206 [02:17] * HariboPenguin [HariboPenguin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#207 [02:33] * onwrd [onwrd@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#208 [02:39] * armed [armed@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#209 [02:41] * Kellins [Kellins@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#210 [02:43] <Kellins> This will probably be a repeated question, but I'm having a hard time under standing the posts in the forum. I'm having the "out of memory" message and I have an updated java, and reinstalled the exe file
#211 [02:43] <Kellins> I'm also running a windows XP
#212 [02:44] * serverghost [serverghost@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#213 [02:45] <Ketsueki> ??> Kellins win/dxdiag
#214 [02:45] <VoxelHead> Kellins: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#215 [02:46] <VoxelHead> Kellins: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#216 [02:46] <Ketsueki> Kellins: likely it will be the low-memory .bat script you require... but to be sure
#217 [02:47] <serverghost> Hi there people, if I have trouble with my account who do I contact? its about the cdkey
#218 [02:47] <lemon-rev> serverghost you have to get to minecraft.net and find help on that site i think its like minecraft.net/support
#219 [02:48] <Kellins> http://pastebin.com/S6dSv7T0
#220 [02:48] <serverghost> ok ty lemon-rev
#221 [02:50] <lemon-rev> Kellins http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English < please try the option two down the bottem of the page
#222 [02:53] * rf`` [rf``@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#223 [02:53] * think_ [think_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#224 [02:54] * Evixion [Evixion@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#225 [02:54] <Kellins> I'll have to restart my computer now. I'll be back if I still have the problem
#226 [02:54] <Kellins> if not, thank you for your help
#227 [02:54] <lemon-rev> np
#228 [02:54] <lemon-rev> np
#229 [02:57] * serverghost [serverghost@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#230 [02:57] * westmi [westmi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#231 [03:01] * Kellins [Kellins@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#232 [03:01] <Kellins> I'm back =(
#233 [03:04] <Kellins> still got the "out of memory" and the flashing black textures
#234 [03:11] * Iaccidentally_ [Iaccidentally_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#235 [03:12] <Kellins> I tried opening the java file to try the -Xmx"number"M I've tried to game offline and it does the same problem, and I think I tried the bat file solution, but I might have done that wrong
#236 [03:13] * JonathanHA [JonathanHA@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#237 [03:14] <Kellins> I've been having this problem since version 1.0 as well ^^;
#238 [03:14] * Diecold [Diecold@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#239 [03:24] <Kellins> guess I'll come back tomorrow then.
#240 [03:43] * JackSzpara [JackSzpara@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#241 [03:45] <JackSzpara> Hello! I was a nick stolen account password was JackSzpara lolek12345 paradox298-99@o2.pl mail today and wanted to sign in to your account and password pops up with the wrong password and tried to reset the address is changed, what you can do about it?
#242 [03:48] <JackSzpara> hello??
#243 [03:50] * JackSzpara [JackSzpara@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#244 [03:50] <JackSzpara> Hello! I was a nick stolen account password was JackSzpara lolek12345 paradox298-99@o2.pl mail today and wanted to sign in to your account and password pops up with the wrong password and tried to reset the address is changed, what you can do about it?
#245 [03:50] <Kealper> JackSzpara: did you get my response?
#246 [03:50] <JackSzpara> no
#247 [03:50] <Kealper> JackSzpara: oh, well then
#248 [03:50] <Kealper> JackSzpara: have you tried resetting your password?
#249 [03:51] <JackSzpara> yes
#250 [03:51] <JackSzpara> also changed the e-mail
#251 [03:51] <Kealper> hmm... and you still can not log in?
#252 [03:51] <JackSzpara> I apologize for my English I'm from Polish
#253 [03:52] <JackSzpara> email address is changed
#254 [03:53] <Kealper> and it says you can not log in after changing your password and email?
#255 [03:53] <JackSzpara> my account has been stolen and I can not regain it I did not change anything
#256 [03:54] <Kealper> send an email to help@mojang.com
#257 [03:54] <JackSzpara> ok
#258 [03:54] <Kealper> say what happened, that might help
#259 [03:55] <JackSzpara> ok
#260 [03:58] * Tanjoodo [Tanjoodo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#261 [04:17] * Patze [Patze@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#262 [04:24] * Thayli [Thayli@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#263 [04:38] * mib_uoy118 [mib_uoy118@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#264 [04:39] <mib_uoy118> hi, question about the server => how much traffic does it need if they're about 2players online 1 month without a break =P
#265 [04:40] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#266 [04:40] * Miner_Dave [Miner_Dave@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#267 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> Rough ballpark of 50-150K/sec per player
#268 [04:42] <mib_uoy118> wow, that's alot
#269 [04:50] * CoZmicShReddeR [CoZmicShReddeR@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#270 [04:52] <mib_uoy118> thanks and bye^^
#271 [05:04] * HaltingState2 [HaltingState2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#272 [05:19] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#273 [05:27] <Kealper> doing an average of 25KB/s for 24 hours a day, for 16 days (all averaging out to some intense Minecrafting for the month while not moving too far from spawn)...
#274 [05:27] <Kealper> it works out to like 33.5GB of data just in upload
#275 [05:36] * MuumiJumala [MuumiJumala@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#276 [05:39] * eyoxander [eyoxander@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#277 [05:42] * Pseudokist [Pseudokist@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#278 [05:42] <Pseudokist> Why can't I access this using Babbel?
#279 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> Babbel?
#280 [05:44] <Pseudokist> It's an IRC cliet
#281 [05:44] <Pseudokist> *client
#282 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> No idea
#283 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> Are you connecting to irc.esper.net?
#284 [05:45] <Pseudokist> I tried that, but it told me the connection was closed.
#285 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> What port are you connecting to?
#286 [05:47] <Pseudokist> There isn't anywhere to put a port in from what I can see
#287 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> What command do you use to connect?
#288 [05:47] <Pseudokist> It doesn't seem as simple as mIRC
#289 [05:47] <Pseudokist> ./connect irc.esper.net
#290 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> Try /connect irc.esper.net:6667
#291 [05:49] * Sudokist [Sudokist@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#292 [05:49] <Sudokist> Ahhh
#293 [05:49] <Sudokist> Thats perfect, thank you :)
#294 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> I think the client was using a non standard port
#295 [05:50] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo. *tips hat*
#296 [05:50] <Sudokist> Ahhh I see :)
#297 [05:50] <Sudokist> Thanks!
#298 [05:51] <Sudokist> Right! now for my minecraft query! I am a little confused as to how the minecarts function? Seems that a number of the vid tutorials on youtube are outdated?
#299 [05:51] <GreyVulpine> I don't quite understand the question.
#300 [05:52] <Sudokist> Aside from making a powered rail, how can I get the minecart to run along the track at a steady speed?
#301 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> That is how you do it, use powered railed
#302 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> rails, even
#303 [05:53] <Sudokist> Ahhh
#304 [05:53] <Sudokist> So the booster cart thing is not relevant anymore?
#305 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> The outdated "booster cart" trick was fixed back in beta 1.6 or so
#306 [05:53] <Sudokist> Ahhh I see
#307 [05:54] <Sudokist> So that is the only option?
#308 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> It's the most efficient method, unless you want to use a powered minecart to push your cart
#309 [05:55] <Sudokist> I haven't got as far as mining gold ingots yet or red dust
#310 [05:56] <Sudokist> I'm guessing they're essential to all methods?
#311 [05:56] * GreyVulpine nods
#311 [05:57] <Sudokist> Ahhh
#312 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> Unless you just want to go downhill all the way, then you don't need any powered rails.
#313 [05:58] <Sudokist> Yea... I built a really long tunnel while mining and I'm feeling lazy about running up and down it regularly
#314 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> Fair enough
#315 [06:00] <Sudokist> I can mine the said items with iron tools, right?
#316 [06:00] * JPSnuffy [JPSnuffy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#317 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#318 [06:03] * mib_miaq8b [mib_miaq8b@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#319 [06:03] * flitch [flitch@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#320 [06:04] * TheReddeH [TheReddeH@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#321 [06:04] <mib_miaq8b> hey
#322 [06:04] <Sudokist> Oh and how can I capture animals for farming purposes?
#323 [06:04] * Thunder7102 [Thunder7102@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#324 [06:05] <mib_miaq8b> how can i play minecraft? the game never finishes loading in the classic version
#325 [06:05] <Wug> are you on a mac?
#326 [06:06] <mib_miaq8b> yeah
#327 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Sudokist - With wheat.
#328 [06:06] <Wug> Sudokist: if you need more info, check the wiki
#329 [06:06] <Wug> mib_miaq8b: classic hasnt worked on macs for a while :P
#330 [06:06] <Sudokist> Thank you
#331 [06:06] <mib_miaq8b> :(
#332 [06:07] <mib_miaq8b> at the top of this chat it says SOPA was defeated?
#333 [06:07] * _303 [_303@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#334 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> Shelved for now, yes
#335 [06:08] <mib_miaq8b> shelved?
#336 [06:08] * GreyVulpine nods
#336 [06:09] <mib_miaq8b> well thanks :)
#337 [06:12] * HariboPenguin [HariboPenguin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#338 [06:13] <Wug> it was shelved "indefinitely"
#339 [06:13] * GreyVulpine did not see that modifier.
#339 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> PIPA's still alive though
#340 [06:14] <Wug> http://www.extremetech.com/computing/114045-the-internet-wins-sopa-has-been-shelved-but-we-must-remain-vigilant
#341 [06:14] <Wug> take this
#342 [06:14] * frdmn [frdmn@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#343 [06:15] <GreyVulpine> Moment. Checking sources
#344 [06:15] * Iguana [Iguana@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#345 [06:15] <GreyVulpine> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9223461/Opponent_says_SOPA_may_be_stalled_in_Congress
#346 [06:15] <frdmn> hey
#347 [06:15] <Sudokist> Hmmm, yet wiki in the UK is still going to be shut for 24 hours tomorrow?
#348 [06:16] <frdmn> i got a problem with my mac-client:
#349 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> Also, http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9223476/Wikipedia_to_go_dark_in_SOPA_protest_Twitter_declines
#350 [06:16] <frdmn> if i connect to a onlinemode server: "failed to login: <doctype html public
#351 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> frdmn - Where are you getting this?
#352 [06:16] <frdmn> on my own server… i could connect 10 mins ago
#353 [06:16] <frdmn> now i cant
#354 [06:16] <frdmn> ip: frd.mn
#355 [06:17] <Wug> ;check frd.mn
#356 [06:17] <WugBot> frd.mn:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: [1.1.0] frdmn's Creative & Survival (3/1337)
#357 [06:17] <Wug> seems ok to me
#358 [06:17] <frdmn> ye for me too
#359 [06:17] <frdmn> there are playing some users out of my network
#360 [06:17] <frdmn> so it's strange
#361 [06:17] <frdmn> it isn't blocked by firewall or something
#362 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> What's the full error?
#363 [06:18] <frdmn> wait a sec
#364 [06:19] <Wug> frdmn: connect with the local address of the computer its running on
#365 [06:19] <frdmn> screenshot here: http://cl.ly/1a0a2P3W283O3Q012t16
#366 [06:19] <frdmn> i did
#367 [06:19] <frdmn> with ip: 82.212.221.9
#368 [06:19] <frdmn> is the server ip
#369 [06:19] <Wug> thats not your local address
#370 [06:20] <frdmn> wtf?! its a dedicated root server
#371 [06:20] <Wug> is it on the computer you're using?
#372 [06:20] <frdmn> not in my own network
#373 [06:20] <Wug> oooohohhh
#374 [06:20] <frdmn> no of course not
#375 [06:20] <Wug> ok
#376 [06:20] <Wug> ;check 82.212.221.9
#377 [06:20] <WugBot> 82.212.221.9:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: [1.1.0] frdmn's Creative & Survival (3/1337)
#378 [06:20] <frdmn> i googled and found something that reports that the problem happend to mac users
#379 [06:20] <Wug> are you on windows
#380 [06:20] <frdmn> some times
#381 [06:20] <frdmn> nope
#382 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> What network are you on that you're connecting this from?
#383 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> Home? School? Work?
#384 [06:22] <frdmn> school… its behind a proxy.. but im in a completely open part of it
#385 [06:22] <frdmn> can browse youporn
#386 [06:22] <Wug> play at home
#387 [06:22] <frdmn> and the 2 players out of my class are playing right now
#388 [06:22] <GreyVulpine> Thinking the school's network may be blocking it
#389 [06:22] <frdmn> nope
#390 [06:22] <GreyVulpine> Or.. not.
#391 [06:22] <frdmn> =)
#392 [06:22] <frdmn> i'm network engineer
#393 [06:22] <frdmn> i can solve that problems
#394 [06:22] <Wug> .....
#395 [06:22] <Sudokist> haha
#396 [06:22] <Wug> specify the port number
#397 [06:22] <frdmn> 25565
#398 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> frdmn - Could you do a:
#399 [06:23] <Wug> no, I mean, specify it when you connect
#400 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> ??> frdmn mac/reinst
#401 [06:23] <VoxelHead> frdmn: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#402 [06:23] <VoxelHead> frdmn: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#403 [06:23] <frdmn> i did that too
#404 [06:23] <frdmn> =)
#405 [06:23] <frdmn> let me check @wug
#406 [06:24] <frdmn> nope
#407 [06:24] <frdmn> same error when specify the port
#408 [06:24] <Wug> youre behind a school proxy
#409 [06:24] <frdmn> lol
#410 [06:24] <frdmn> yeah
#411 [06:24] <frdmn> but it's open for us
#412 [06:24] <Wug> its probably routing issues or something
#413 [06:24] <frdmn> nope
#414 [06:24] <frdmn> because pupils out of the same network
#415 [06:24] <frdmn> can connect
#416 [06:24] <frdmn> they sit beside me
#417 [06:24] <Wug> I can think of no other reason why connecting to a server on port 25565 would cause port 80 to respond
#418 [06:25] <Wug> use a different computer
#419 [06:25] <frdmn> iv tried telnet too
#420 [06:25] <frdmn> all looks good
#421 [06:25] <frdmn> i think he always try to http
#422 [06:25] <frdmn> and ignores my port
#423 [06:25] <Wug> yes
#424 [06:25] <frdmn> but wtf?!
#425 [06:25] <Wug> which is why I suspect routing issues
#426 [06:26] <Wug> it would probably require a configuration change to your schools network that you are not able to perform
#427 [06:26] <frdmn> but it worked
#428 [06:26] <frdmn> 10 mins ago
#429 [06:26] <frdmn> and still works for others
#430 [06:26] <Wug> and now it doesnt
#431 [06:26] <frdmn> out of the same network
#432 [06:26] <frdmn> it still works… only not for me
#433 [06:26] <Wug> have them disconnect and reconnect
#434 [06:26] <frdmn> yes
#435 [06:29] <frdmn> tried again
#436 [06:29] <frdmn> they all can connect
#437 [06:29] <frdmn> same network… same vlan
#438 [06:29] <Wug> use a different computer
#439 [06:30] <frdmn> they all use windows… i dont want it
#440 [06:30] <frdmn> got my own
#441 [06:30] <Wug> then go without it
#442 [06:30] * Valerie [Valerie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#443 [06:30] * TheTFEF [TheTFEF@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#444 [06:32] * Snail [Snail@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#445 [06:33] <frdmn> lol?
#446 [06:33] <frdmn> that's not even a solution
#447 [06:33] <frdmn> i need it in school
#448 [06:35] <Wug> then use a different computer
#449 [06:35] <frdmn> welll… i dont think thats a proper solution
#450 [06:35] <frdmn> thx anyway
#451 [06:35] <frdmn> i will google it up
#452 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ioSafe-Thunderbolt-SSD-Megavolt-lightning,14496.html
#453 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> SSD is put up against a tesla coil going at a million volts
#454 [06:46] <Sudokist> Are there any mods that particularly worth having?
#455 [06:47] * GreyVulpine doesn't run any mods.
#455 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> Some people need inventory editing mods, like TooManyItems. Others need minimap mods. There's also gameplay modification mods, adding different blocks, different NPCs, more monsters/pets/animals
#456 [06:48] <Sudokist> I didn't really want to tamper with it anyway, just wondered
#457 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> It's all in how you want to play minecraft.
#458 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> Some just want higher res textures, with more realistic water and lava effects.
#459 [06:50] <Sudokist> Well in my first few days of playing I kept building things miles away from spawn, before I knew anything about beds and basically I'd lose where I was (a mini map could have been helpful!)
#460 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> F3 will give you coordinates.
#461 [06:50] <Sudokist> In the end I just built on the spawn point
#462 [06:52] * Jarvis[Away] [Jarvis[Away]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#463 [06:53] <Sudokist> I just press f3 and its come up with some diagnostic-looking things
#464 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> Look for X: Y: and Z:
#465 [06:55] <Sudokist> Ok I see it, thanks
#466 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> For more info on the F3 debug stuff, you can check out: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Debug_screen
#467 [06:57] <Sudokist> looking at that tesla coil thing you posted
#468 [06:58] <Sudokist> Crazy
#469 [07:07] <Sudokist> Cheers for your help
#470 [07:12] * I [I@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#471 [07:19] * MuumiJumala [MuumiJumala@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#472 [07:28] * mib_krns11 [mib_krns11@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#473 [07:28] * WTFWatch [WTFWatch@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#474 [07:31] * neo6633 [neo6633@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#475 [07:31] <neo6633> hi
#476 [07:31] <neo6633> there is norch?
#477 [07:32] <neo6633> 저기요
#478 [07:38] * HariboPenguin [HariboPenguin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#479 [07:40] * I [I@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#480 [07:41] * Silent [Silent@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#481 [07:50] * Hisui_ [Hisui_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#482 [08:19] * Tanjoodo [Tanjoodo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#483 [08:28] * Cryp71c [Cryp71c@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#484 [08:28] * mib_2qpust [mib_2qpust@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#485 [08:29] * doodlejmup9 [doodlejmup9@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#486 [08:29] <doodlejmup9> hello
#487 [08:30] <doodlejmup9> i have got a modloader, if i download a mod (it doesnt matter what mod), the game will crash when i will start the game (minecraft)
#488 [08:31] * Dkong [Dkong@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#489 [08:31] <doodlejmup9> i have got a modloader, if i download a mod (it doesnt matter what mod), the game will crash when i will start the game (minecraft)
#490 [08:32] <Dkong> hello, im having a problem to find where the spawn eggs texture is found and i thought this is the best place to ask, so on what file are they?
#491 [08:32] <doodlejmup9> sorry, i dont know :)
#492 [08:33] <Dkong> hmm.. are you at 1.0 version of minecraft?
#493 [08:33] <doodlejmup9> im at 1.1
#494 [08:33] <doodlejmup9> i hav got a modloader for 1.1
#495 [08:33] <doodlejmup9> have*
#496 [08:34] <Wug> the mods must be for 1.1 as well
#497 [08:34] <Dkong> are the mods made for 1.1? are those updated mods?
#498 [08:34] <doodlejmup9> yes, that mod is for 1.1
#499 [08:34] <doodlejmup9> i had got the same problem for 1.,0 , 1.7.3
#500 [08:34] <doodlejmup9> 1.0*
#501 [08:34] <doodlejmup9> 1.8.1
#502 [08:34] <doodlejmup9> and so on
#503 [08:35] <Dkong> so that problem exsist before 1.1?
#504 [08:35] <doodlejmup9> yes
#505 [08:35] * koreaquentin [koreaquentin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#506 [08:35] <doodlejmup9> i think that this problem is because of my computer or sth
#507 [08:36] <doodlejmup9> because these mods worked for my frineds playing minecraft
#508 [08:36] <doodlejmup9> i got to get .minecraft from my friends
#509 [08:36] <doodlejmup9> then the mods will work
#510 [08:36] <koreaquentin> minecraft funktioniert nicht mehr habe texture pack default gelöscht was tun
#511 [08:36] <Dkong> you should try more simple mods, if that wont work it could be your antiviruse
#512 [08:37] <doodlejmup9> i turned off the antivirus, but still didnt work
#513 [08:37] <doodlejmup9> and it doesnt matter what mod i will downlaod, nothing will work
#514 [08:38] <koreaquentin> minecraft chrashed i have deleted texture pack default HELP!!!!
#515 [08:38] <Dkong> did your try a mode without modloader
#516 [08:38] <doodlejmup9> it doesnt work without that
#517 [08:38] <Dkong> koreaquentin you just need to force update minecraft
#518 [08:38] <doodlejmup9> koreaquentin, u got to download a new texture pack
#519 [08:38] <doodlejmup9> :)
#520 [08:38] <Dkong> then idk doodle :P
#521 [08:38] <doodlejmup9> :(
#522 [08:39] <Dkong> im just a random guy that came here...
#523 [08:39] <doodlejmup9> :)
#524 [08:39] <Dkong> btw do you get white chat in multyplayer?
#525 [08:39] <doodlejmup9> im downloading .minecraft from my frined, and im very sure it will work
#526 [08:39] <doodlejmup9> do u mean white chatbox?
#527 [08:40] <Dkong> i mean every thing i see on chat is white, and not for others
#528 [08:40] <doodlejmup9> hmm...
#529 [08:40] <doodlejmup9> even when u will force update?
#530 [08:41] <doodlejmup9> have u got default texture pack?
#531 [08:41] <Dkong> yea i think its the grapick card
#532 [08:41] <Dkong> graphic card*
#533 [08:41] <doodlejmup9> i dont think so...
#534 [08:41] <doodlejmup9> so u have got a efault texture pack...
#535 [08:41] <doodlejmup9> have u got mos
#536 [08:41] <doodlejmup9> mods*
#537 [08:41] <Dkong> yeaa i noticed the shadows of the letters have color
#538 [08:42] <Dkong> its abit weird :P
#539 [08:42] <doodlejmup9> idk how to fix it
#540 [08:43] <doodlejmup9> have u got that problem from the first day when u playd that game on your computer?
#541 [08:43] <Dkong> no i think its beacuse of the update
#542 [08:44] <doodlejmup9> well, thats possible, do u know a name of your computer´s graphic card
#543 [08:45] <Dkong> nope but i found out at minecraft forum that is the problem just now
#544 [08:59] * mib_2wqwkw [mib_2wqwkw@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#545 [09:00] <mib_2wqwkw> Hi my question is - when I start the Game there is a black screen
#546 [09:00] <mib_2wqwkw> and
#547 [09:01] <mib_2wqwkw> I've delete the Minecraft Dir but now I can't download a new one
#548 [09:01] <mib_2wqwkw> can you help me?
#549 [09:05] * Snikeman [Snikeman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#550 [09:06] <Snikeman> hello, does anyone know a cuboid mod for minecraft 1.0.0?
#551 [09:06] <Snikeman> SPC
#552 [09:09] * xjeroenx [xjeroenx@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#553 [09:10] <xjeroenx> my problem is that i can't login to minecraft anymore?
#554 [09:11] * piotmetans [piotmetans@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#555 [09:12] * ArcheKruz [ArcheKruz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#556 [09:12] <piotmetans> Just bought a gift code, but an error occured and it's not showing up in my profile. I have the paypal reciept, who should i contact in this situation?
#557 [09:17] * whidgle [whidgle@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#558 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> piotmetans - help@mojang.com
#559 [09:24] * lutrox [lutrox@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#560 [09:25] * frogaincia [frogaincia@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#561 [09:26] <lutrox> Good evening. Is there a possibility to download your skin in minecraft when its already uploaded? I lost my copy on my harddrive... :/
#562 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> Yes, one moment
#563 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftSkins/GreyVulpine.png
#564 [09:28] * bildramer [bildramer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#565 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> Replace my name with yours. It's caps-sensitive
#566 [09:29] <lutrox> Thank you very much! I was getting mad already.. :D
#567 [09:32] * AussieMaggy4510 [AussieMaggy4510@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#568 [09:32] <AussieMaggy4510> It's me again...
#569 [09:33] <AussieMaggy4510> yes my minecraft doesnt start
#570 [09:34] <AussieMaggy4510> i pasted my system information and ... yes
#571 [09:36] <AussieMaggy4510> can you say me what i must do now?
#572 [09:37] <AussieMaggy4510> hello?
#573 [09:38] <AussieMaggy4510> hello?
#574 [09:40] * Miner_Dave [Miner_Dave@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#575 [09:40] <AussieMaggy4510> can anyone help me?
#576 [09:41] <lutrox> I believe people will answer, when they have some... I cant help you since I have no idea.
#577 [09:41] <AussieMaggy4510> HELLO?
#578 [09:45] * Risuhime [Risuhime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#579 [09:46] <AussieMaggy4510> Can you help me?
#580 [09:46] <doodlejmup9> hi
#581 [09:46] <doodlejmup9> yes
#582 [09:46] <doodlejmup9> tell me your prob
#583 [09:46] <doodlejmup9> i was afk, sry
#584 [09:47] <AussieMaggy4510> my minecraft doesnt start
#585 [09:47] <AussieMaggy4510> i pasted my system information
#586 [09:47] <doodlejmup9> where
#587 [09:47] <tyteen4a03> AussieMaggy4510: Has a helper assisted you before?
#588 [09:47] <AussieMaggy4510> yes
#589 [09:48] <tyteen4a03> AussigMaggy4510: Do you remember who?
#590 [09:48] <AussieMaggy4510> Wug i think
#591 [09:48] * Risuhime [Risuhime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#592 [09:49] <tyteen4a03> AussieMaggy4510: I think Wug's not here ATM
#593 [09:49] <AussieMaggy4510> oh then can you help me?
#594 [09:49] <tyteen4a03> AussieMaggy4510: What's the problem?
#595 [09:49] <AussieMaggy4510> my minecraft doesnt start
#596 [09:49] * Risuhime [Risuhime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#597 [09:50] <doodlejmup9> i have got a modloader, if i download a mod (it doesnt matter what mod), the game will crash when i will start the game (minecraft)
#598 [09:50] <doodlejmup9> a mod is for 1.1, i have got minecraft 1.1 and modloader is for 1.1
#599 [09:52] <tyteen4a03> AussieMaggy4510: What happens when you start MC?
#600 [09:52] * HariboPenguin [HariboPenguin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#601 [09:52] * Risuhime [Risuhime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#602 [09:52] <tyteen4a03> doodlejmup9: We do not support mods here, but you can try to reinstall ModLoader, and make sure you put mods in ./minecraft/mods, not inside the minecraft.jar
#603 [09:52] <tyteen4a03> (reinstall ModLoader: forceupdate, install ModLoader again)
#604 [09:53] <AussieMaggy4510> theres the message "Bad video card drivers"
#605 [09:53] <tyteen4a03> AussieMaggy4510: Can you link me to your system info?
#606 [09:53] * Risuhime [Risuhime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#607 [09:54] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: The title is kinda misleading, SOPA is just shelved indefinitely, and PIPA is still alive
#608 [09:54] <AussieMaggy4510> http://pastebin.com/jUuLg0GC
#609 [09:55] <tyteen4a03> AussieMaggy4510: I am sorry, but you will probably not be able to play Minecraft with that video card
#610 [09:55] * Risuhime [Risuhime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#611 [09:55] * klickos [klickos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#612 [09:55] <AussieMaggy4510> sh**.
#613 [09:55] <AussieMaggy4510> can i update it
#614 [09:55] * ledut [ledut@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#615 [09:55] <klickos> i dont receive verification key..how can i get ?
#616 [09:56] <AussieMaggy4510> sorry i must go by
#617 [09:56] <AussieMaggy4510> *e
#618 [09:56] <tyteen4a03> AussieMaggy4510: The card itself's known to have many problems, even after updating
#619 [09:56] <tyteen4a03> but if you want to try you can go here
#620 [09:56] * Risuhime [Risuhime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#621 [09:56] <tyteen4a03> ??> AussieMaggy4510 gpu/intel
#622 [09:56] <VoxelHead> AussieMaggy4510: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#623 [09:56] <tyteen4a03> klickos: What do you mean?
#624 [09:56] <AussieMaggy4510> thanks
#625 [09:57] * whidgle [whidgle@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#626 [09:57] <klickos> If i want to login i should type a verification key
#627 [09:57] * Risuhime [Risuhime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#628 [09:57] <tyteen4a03> klickos: A verification key is not required to login, but if you mean email verification, please check your email inbox
#629 [09:57] <ledut> i need help with a bukkit plugin citizens cause i get an error saying java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.server.Packet17EntityLocationAction how do i fix this?
#630 [09:58] <tyteen4a03> ledut: please go to #bukkit
#631 [09:58] <ledut> ok
#632 [09:58] <klickos> i checked but no mail received
#633 [09:58] <tyteen4a03> klickos: What email provider are you using?
#634 [09:58] * Risuhime [Risuhime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#635 [09:58] <klickos> web.de
#636 [09:59] <tyteen4a03> klickos: Try a different email provider such as gmail.com
#637 [10:01] * Risuhime [Risuhime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#638 [10:01] * eyoxander [eyoxander@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#639 [10:01] * mr_pants [mr_pants@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#640 [10:03] * Dwarfyboy123 [Dwarfyboy123@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#641 [10:03] <Dwarfyboy123> hi?
#642 [10:03] <Dwarfyboy123> i need some help
#643 [10:04] * Risuhime [Risuhime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#644 [10:04] <Dwarfyboy123> is there anyone here at the moment?
#645 [10:04] <Dwarfyboy123> aha
#646 [10:04] * nibla12 [nibla12@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#647 [10:05] <Dwarfyboy123> How dous Spoutcraft client api thing work, i dont know where to place it or use it can anyone help me?
#648 [10:05] <Dwarfyboy123> How dous Spoutcraft client api thing work, i dont know where to place it or use it can anyone help me?
#649 [10:13] * Dwarfyboy123 [Dwarfyboy123@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#650 [10:15] * amup [amup@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#651 [10:16] * klickos [klickos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#652 [10:16] <amup> Any1 know how to install Iconomy to Minecraft server and get it to work
#653 [10:17] <klickos> hi again..i bought minecraft and payed by paypal
#654 [10:17] <klickos> but im not premium on the page
#655 [10:18] <doodlejmup9> idk
#656 [10:18] <doodlejmup9> idk
#657 [10:18] <doodlejmup9> idk :)
#658 [10:19] <amup> can any1 link the Iconomy plugin so i can have credit on minecraft server
#659 [10:21] <klickos> should i have to wait or what ?
#660 [10:23] <amup> yeah i tink so have you got any mail yet
#661 [10:23] <klickos> no not after paying with paypal
#662 [10:23] <klickos> paypal status is completed
#663 [10:24] <amup> hmm you are gona get a mail i tin
#664 [10:24] <amup> tink
#665 [10:24] <klickos> k i will wait until tomorrow
#666 [10:24] <klickos> thx for help
#667 [10:24] <klickos> bye
#668 [10:27] * J0rd4n [J0rd4n@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#669 [10:30] * Omega_Guardian [Omega_Guardian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#670 [10:43] * PitTux_64 [PitTux_64@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#671 [10:44] * krebbit [krebbit@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#672 [10:45] * Alexux [Alexux@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#673 [10:49] <Alexux> N'abend
#674 [10:49] * Valerie [Valerie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#675 [10:53] * AuBot [AuBot@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#676 [10:55] * Cray-on- [Cray-on-@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#677 [10:55] <Cray-on-> where can i find the new server jar?
#678 [10:56] * mib_d72cmq [mib_d72cmq@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#679 [10:56] <mib_d72cmq> Hi paypal payment went through but I can't play. What gives?
#680 [10:56] <Cray-on-> mib_d72cmq aliens
#681 [10:57] <mib_d72cmq> ?
#682 [10:58] <mib_d72cmq> Well what a useless shower of shit you lot have been
#683 [10:58] * clarjon1 [clarjon1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#684 [10:59] <Cray-on-> anywho, the one on minecraft.net seems outdated
#685 [11:04] * jan [jan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#686 [11:05] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#687 [11:09] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#688 [11:11] * NetplayerD [NetplayerD@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#689 [11:11] * mudpit [mudpit@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#690 [11:11] * mudpit [mudpit@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#691 [11:14] * NetplayerD [NetplayerD@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#692 [11:14] <Cray-on-> 164 users and not a single reply?
#693 [11:15] <Morrolan> The new server.jar? That one... should be under minecraft.net/downloads as usual.
#694 [11:15] <Morrolan> Also, this is IRC, not your 24 hour support hotline, people being in here doesn't mean they're looking at your channel / can be arsed to help / know how to help etc etc. :)
#695 [11:15] <Morrolan> at the channel*
#696 [11:15] <Morrolan> !server
#697 [11:16] <Morrolan> Either way, as far as I know that .jar should be pretty much updated.
#698 [11:17] <Morrolan> Yea, it is. If you're getting an old download it might be a cached version, using the link AuBot gave you should force-download the new one.
#699 [11:17] * Morrolan slaps AuBot
#699 [11:19] <Cray-on-> Morrolan i've donloaded that one 3 times now
#700 [11:19] <Cray-on-> and it gives me 1.0,1
#701 [11:20] <AG_Clinton> Cray-on-: Clear your cache.
#702 [11:20] <Morrolan> Downloaded using the link AuBot gave you?
#703 [11:20] <Morrolan> Since in this case it is, most likely, your cache interfering, like AG_Clinton said. :)
#704 [11:20] <Cray-on-> hang on
#705 [11:22] <Cray-on-> it worked, guess my broswer had some problem with the ? in a link
#706 [11:24] <Cray-on-> never mind
#707 [11:24] <Cray-on-> i still get the 1.0.1 ver
#708 [11:24] <Cray-on-> bah, ill just quit minecraft
#709 [11:24] <Cray-on-> bah, ill just quit minecraft
#710 [11:24] * Cray-on- [Cray-on-@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#711 [11:25] <AG_Clinton> If he would've just cleared the cache...
#712 [11:32] * aikaramba [aikaramba@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#713 [11:41] * mermi [mermi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#714 [11:43] <mermi> Does anyone have any advise for us in regards to downloading this game. We have been trying to download for a week and we keep getting re-directed back to the home page where you log in. We can't open it in our browswer, we get an error message everytime. Any suggestions?
#715 [11:43] * OnceOverPenguin [OnceOverPenguin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#716 [11:44] * Cookies [Cookies@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#717 [11:44] <Ketsueki> mermi: can you login to the minecraft site?
#718 [11:45] <mermi> Yes
#719 [11:45] <Ketsueki> mermi: in your profile does it say you're a 'premium' user?
#720 [11:46] <mermi> yes
#721 [11:46] <Ketsueki> ?? urls
#722 [11:46] <Ketsueki> ?? index
#723 [11:46] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#724 [11:47] <Ketsueki> mermi: ah that's why, windows, mac, or linux?
#725 [11:47] <mermi> windows
#726 [11:48] * think [think@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#727 [11:49] <Ketsueki> ??> mermi win/client
#728 [11:49] <VoxelHead> mermi: (win/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#729 [11:49] * Syndic [Syndic@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#730 [11:49] <Ketsueki> ??< win/client/moreram
#731 [11:49] * JonathanHA [JonathanHA@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#732 [11:50] <Ketsueki> Partly useful...
#733 [11:50] * BHOK [BHOK@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#734 [11:50] <mermi> It just takes me to the minecraft launcher and I log in and it tells me I cant connect to minecraft.net
#735 [11:52] <Ketsueki> mermi: It sounds like you might have a firewall problem; as you can go to the website in browsers but not the client. You'll have to configure your security software to allow the minecraft client and java.exe / javaw.exe out on to the internet
#736 [11:53] <mermi> do you have an idea how I do this in Nortons? I appreciate the help!
#737 [11:53] * Oramis [Oramis@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#738 [11:53] * pheleas_frog [pheleas_frog@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#739 [11:53] <Ketsueki> Sorry I have no idea; you'll have to consult your documentation and possible google/noroton's site.
#740 [11:53] <Ketsueki> Sorry I have no idea; you'll have to consult your documentation and possible google/noroton's site.
#741 [11:53] * Oramis [Oramis@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#742 [11:53] * Oramis [Oramis@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#743 [11:54] <mermi> Ok, I will try that. Thanks!
#744 [11:54] <mermi> Ok, I will try that. Thanks!
#745 [11:54] * Oramis [Oramis@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#746 [11:56] <BHOK> Hey, I have a friend here who is having connection issues to our server. We think it is an account issue as we have tried his account on multiple computers, but it never works
#747 [11:56] <Ketsueki> ??> BHOK accounts
#748 [11:56] <BHOK> I however, have never had a problem on those same computers. The error he gets is... INTERNAL EXCEPTION: JAVA.NET.SOCKETTIMEOUTEXCEPTION: READ TIME OUT
#749 [11:56] <Ketsueki> Also you might try
#750 [11:56] <VoxelHead> BHOK: (accounts) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#751 [11:56] <Ketsueki> !paid Notch
#752 [11:56] * AuBot kicked Ketsueki from #minecrafthelp (Reason: etsueki :Notch has paid for Minecraft!)
#753 [11:56] * Ketsueki [Ketsueki@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#754 [11:56] <BHOK> sorry if i but in there
#755 [11:57] <Ketsueki> AuBot: Idiot bot; it's an EXAMPLE. AureliusM ??? please fix that since it IS a good testing example.
#756 [11:58] * Alexux [Alexux@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#757 [12:02] <pheleas_frog> hello, i have a weird bug where everything in minecraft works fine, and then all of a sudden it closes down. I have tried deleting ".minecraft" folder and then "force updating" (to re-install the .minecraft folder), but the problem persists. it doesn't seem to happen at any particular moment, it does however seem to affect some worlds more than others.
#758 [12:04] <oldtopmanserver> Ketsueki: If you need to test, use it on your own account. You're the first non-abuser to do it that way :|
#759 [12:05] <oldtopmanserver> You *did* pay for it, right?
#760 [12:05] <pheleas_frog> yes i paid for it
#761 [12:05] <pheleas_frog> i never get nonlegit copyies of games
#762 [12:05] * oldtopmanserver was talking to Ketsueki
#762 [12:06] * DreadLindwyrm [DreadLindwyrm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#763 [12:07] <pheleas_frog> or do i... <.<....>.>...but seriously i don't buy illegal copies
#764 [12:16] * maro [maro@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#765 [12:16] <oldtopmanserver> pheleas_frog: How much RAM do you have? And did you download the oficcial client?
#766 [12:17] <AureliusM> Ketsueki: I don't know hot fix bots, I can just about manage to work out WugBot's factoids and search
#767 [12:18] <pheleas_frog> i do have the official client, i got it from minecraft.net (plz say that is the official, otherwise i have been tricked for a long time), as for the ram ill go check
#768 [12:18] <AureliusM> Ketsueki: * don't know how to fix bots *
#769 [12:18] <pheleas_frog> 512MB of RAM
#770 [12:19] * AureliusM realises Ketsueki thinks AuBot is mine when it's not
#770 [12:19] * AureliusM ehs
#770 [12:19] <pheleas_frog> which I'm pretty sure is good enough for minecraft, but it just closes, doesn't say "Minecraft has ran out of Memory" or anything like that.
#771 [12:21] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: you're using the batch file that keeps Java heap limited to 256 M ?
#772 [12:22] <pheleas_frog> im not much of a computer genius, i have no clue what a batch file is and what is a java heap?
#773 [12:23] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: 512 MB is seriously low, usually minimum of 1024 MB is needed. Under that you need to use the jar and bat method: http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#774 [12:24] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: What are your system specs? Operating system, RAM, graphics card?
#775 [12:25] <pheleas_frog> 512 is low?! but every game i have is able to run on 512....but i must admit this computer sucks and i seriously should get a more powerful computer
#776 [12:25] * j4mie [j4mie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#777 [12:25] <pheleas_frog> what are my sysytem specs?! whats that?
#778 [12:25] <pheleas_frog> operatin sysytem is a windows XP
#779 [12:26] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: It's low. Minecraft is probably crashing due to lack of memory. Use dxdiag to get your details:
#780 [12:26] <pheleas_frog> RAM just said 512MB
#781 [12:26] <AureliusM> ??> pheleas_frog win/dxdiag
#782 [12:26] <VoxelHead> pheleas_frog: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#783 [12:26] <VoxelHead> pheleas_frog: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#784 [12:26] <pheleas_frog> whats a Win key?
#785 [12:26] <AureliusM> ??> pheleas_frog win/key
#786 [12:26] <VoxelHead> pheleas_frog: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#787 [12:27] <pheleas_frog> slow down, the stuff you have said is going too fast for me to read, hold on
#788 [12:27] * Alexux [Alexux@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#789 [12:27] * m0nk [m0nk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#790 [12:27] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: You can scroll up in the IRC chat window to read it at your own pace
#791 [12:28] <pheleas_frog> umm i have no idea what some of your instuctions are, or wheter they're safe
#792 [12:29] <pheleas_frog> verifying WHQL?
#793 [12:29] <pheleas_frog> what is that?
#794 [12:29] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: dxdiag has been a standard Windows program since Windows 2000. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DxDiag
#795 [12:29] <pheleas_frog> sorry if im irritating about knowing nothing but basics computers
#796 [12:30] <pheleas_frog> so what does verifying itm do?
#797 [12:30] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: I've never seen WHQL on my machine, but see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHQL
#798 [12:33] <pheleas_frog> why is the logo for the applictaion of this dxdiag look like a big cross?
#799 [12:33] <pheleas_frog> hmm......worrys me
#800 [12:34] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: If you do not want to use the method by GreyVulpine that I linked above, you will probably get crashes; to reduce the frequency of crashes, set video options to Graphics fast, Render distance to Normal or Short or even Tiny
#801 [12:34] <pheleas_frog> i use tinuy all the time anyway
#802 [12:34] <pheleas_frog> i always use fats
#803 [12:34] <pheleas_frog> *fast
#804 [12:35] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: DxDiag should look like this: http://i.technet.microsoft.com/dynimg/IC213115.gif
#805 [12:35] <pheleas_frog> and i have everything on min except the lighting smoother and the perticules are on decreased
#806 [12:35] <pheleas_frog> yes it does
#807 [12:36] <pheleas_frog> but i have an odd box that i can choose to check on the left
#808 [12:36] <Ketsueki> AureliusM: sorry, it was a good guess based on names before I drove off to work.
#809 [12:36] <pheleas_frog> check for WHQL digital signitures
#810 [12:36] <pheleas_frog> sorry forgot quotation marks :I
#811 [12:37] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: With only 512 MB you will need to close all other applications before launching Minecraft. How often does it crash and can you find the error log in a file named hs_err_pid ?
#812 [12:37] <AureliusM> Ketsueki: No problem, these Bots confuse me too
#813 [12:37] <pheleas_frog> i never run anything but minecraft whehn playing, except often i have the steam chat up (steam chat uses virtually nothing)
#814 [12:37] * clarjon1 [clarjon1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#815 [12:38] <pheleas_frog> and whats an error log?
#816 [12:38] * peru [peru@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#817 [12:38] * mib_j3bc59 [mib_j3bc59@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#818 [12:39] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: When Minecraft crashes it usually leaves a long error log in a file whose name starts with hs_err_pid - search your computer for such a file and inside should be the error details
#819 [12:39] <pheleas_frog> hold on, ill find it
#820 [12:39] <Ketsueki> pheleas_frog: well historically, and currently actually, command line programs open three standard input/output devices: the standard input (keyboard/etc), the standard output (normal results), and the standard /error/ output. Information that may be related to bad data, program crashes, etc, goes in to the 'error' output, which is most typically a log of events.
#821 [12:40] <pheleas_frog> can i use the search thing on the start menu?
#822 [12:41] <Ketsueki> pheleas_frog: for running dxdiag? yes
#823 [12:41] <Ketsueki> Oh wait, XP
#824 [12:41] <pheleas_frog> no, for finding the hs_err_pid file thing
#825 [12:41] <Ketsueki> no you need the run-dialog
#826 [12:41] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: How To Search for Files and Folders in Windows XP : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308895
#827 [12:42] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: which has: Click Start, and then click Search. In the Search Companion dialog box, click All files and folders. Type part or all of the name of the file or folder, ...
#828 [12:43] * m0nk [m0nk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#829 [12:44] <pheleas_frog> where should it look? local hard drives (C:) ?
#830 [12:44] <pheleas_frog> -_____- stupid face thing
#831 [12:44] <pheleas_frog> *(C: )
#832 [12:45] <pheleas_frog> ooh i found some
#833 [12:45] <pheleas_frog> they all start with hs_err_pid, and then a number
#834 [12:46] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: look for the one with the newest date as that will be from the most recent crash; and in which folder are they located?
#835 [12:47] * Syrupey [Syrupey@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#836 [12:47] <Ketsueki> Next you'll need...
#837 [12:47] <pheleas_frog> hold on
#838 [12:47] <Ketsueki> ??> pheleas_frog pastebin
#839 [12:47] <VoxelHead> pheleas_frog: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#840 [12:48] <pheleas_frog> i cant see the name of the folder they belong in...it gets cut off y an elipsis
#841 [12:48] <Syrupey> Hi, there's something that Minecraft is doing that is basically shutting down the internet throughout the entire house. Basically, if I turn on Minecraft, the internet starts to get flunky, until it fails all together and has to be reset manually.
#842 [12:49] <AureliusM> Syrupey: In what way does it get "flunky"? Error messages? Lost connections?
#843 [12:49] <pheleas_frog> for some reason when i opend one, it made a shortcut to it...it is possible to delet shortcuts through right clicking and then selecting delete?
#844 [12:51] * Oerg866 [Oerg866@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#845 [12:52] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: do your search results look like this: http://www.recipester.org/Recipe:Save_search_results_in_Windows_XP_31342042 ? If yes you can widen the In Folder part by dragging the right divider; you may also be able to right mouse click and see more details, I've forgotten a lot of XP stuff though
#846 [12:52] <pheleas_frog> they are located in:
#847 [12:52] * hipy|MC [hipy|MC@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#848 [12:52] <Syrupey> The searches get stuff like "Can't connect to this webpage", and the internet just runs slower in general
#849 [12:53] <hipy> hi, i step in a portal in smp but i only get dizzy from all the spinning but i wont teleport:S
#850 [12:53] <pheleas_frog> C:\Documents and settings\User\My Documents\Downloads
#851 [12:54] <Ketsueki> hipy: the server might have the nether disabled
#852 [12:54] <Ketsueki> pheleas_frog: great, but we need you to open the file and use pastebin to share it with us.
#853 [12:54] <AureliusM> Syrupey: Does Minecraft itself report can't connect errors? What are your computer specs? Operating system, RAM, and CPU for example
#854 [12:54] * Malvburo [Malvburo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#855 [12:55] <Syrupey> A little, about 2/5 times it connects, but then it's 1/10 times that I can actually get into the server. I have Windows 7, 8 BG RAM, and 1 TB HDD.
#856 [12:55] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: try right mouse click over just one of the hs_err_pid files and click Edit, or Open in Notepad
#857 [12:56] * Jake12001200 [Jake12001200@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#858 [12:56] <AureliusM> Syrupey: Are you using Java 7 ?
#859 [12:57] <Syrupey> No, Java 6 64-bit
#860 [12:57] <pheleas_frog> i seem to now have a shortcut ot evysingle one i opened, is it possible to remove shortcuts by right clicking and then clicking delete?
#861 [12:57] * wannabemac [wannabemac@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#862 [12:57] <AureliusM> Syrupey: By connect, you mean connect to a multiplayer server? When you start the launcher it Logins Ok each time?
#863 [12:57] <wannabemac> Holy crap.
#864 [12:57] <wannabemac> Alot more people have voice since I have been gone.
#865 [12:58] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: Um yes, but can you try to just open one of hs_err_pid files in Notepad first?
#866 [12:58] <Syrupey> Not all the time. And yes, I meant the multiplayer server. 1/7 times it doesn't login ok
#867 [12:58] <pheleas_frog> i opened them in notepad from the beggining
#868 [12:59] <AureliusM> Syrupey: And your browser is able to browse to web pages as normal during this time?
#869 [13:00] <Syrupey> It browses perfectly without Minecraft running. With it, very slow and doesn't connect half the time
#870 [13:00] <pheleas_frog> this file looks weird just a bunch of nonsense to me
#871 [13:00] <pheleas_frog> this file looks weird just a bunch of nonsense to me
#872 [13:00] * Malvburo [Malvburo@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#873 [13:01] <AureliusM> Syrupey: What does Task Manager show under the Performance tab for CPU use, and also under the Network tab for network input output during this time?
#874 [13:01] <Syrupey> Allow me to check
#875 [13:02] * Malvburo [Malvburo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#876 [13:04] <Syrupey> The CPU ranges from 25-50. And the input/output is going crazy.
#877 [13:06] <pheleas_frog> umm hello? AureliusM, Ketsueki? you there?
#878 [13:06] <AureliusM> Syrupey: What figures appear in the Net use and Velocity columns under the Network display? For example I have 0.1% and 100 Mbps
#879 [13:06] <pheleas_frog> nvm
#880 [13:07] <Syrupey> 0%, 100 Mbps
#881 [13:08] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: If it starts with "A fatal error has been detected" that is a hs_err_pid file. Can you copy the entire contents and paste it into pastebin.com ?
#882 [13:08] <pheleas_frog> what is pastebin.com?
#883 [13:08] <Morrolan> A website which allows you to, well, paste long files.
#884 [13:08] <Morrolan> paste and share, that is.
#885 [13:09] <pheleas_frog> is this file gonna contain any personal information (i know, i am alittle worried about silly things)
#886 [13:09] <AureliusM> Syrupey: What does the graph above look like when connecting to a server? For example mine has peaks at 0.5% which is about 500 kbps, and my total ADSL bandwidth is about 4000
#887 [13:10] <AureliusM> Syrupey: Or, what do the graphs above the velocity columns, etc look like
#888 [13:10] <Syrupey> It goes above 12.5%
#889 [13:10] <pheleas_frog> caso i need an acount on pasdtebin? or can i simply use it as a guest?
#890 [13:10] <Morrolan> YOu can use it as a guest.
#891 [13:10] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: no account needed, just paste and click Submit
#892 [13:11] <Syrupey> Wait, you mean the Wireless Network? My computer is the host computer for the entire network, so I only have Local Area Connection
#893 [13:11] * jellybean [jellybean@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#894 [13:11] <pheleas_frog> will this file contain any personnal information?
#895 [13:11] <Morrolan> Worst case it'll contain your computer's name, pheleas_frog.
#896 [13:12] * C [C@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#897 [13:12] <AureliusM> Syrupey: 12.5 % ok that IS high, that means about 12.5 Mbps. Never seen one that high. Does it plateau at that 12.5% or stablise at 1 or 2 % say?
#898 [13:12] <pheleas_frog> and what does knowing my computers name do?
#899 [13:12] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: Use notepad to blank out the computer name if you are concerned
#900 [13:13] <pheleas_frog> where is the name loacted?
#901 [13:13] <Morrolan> Nothing, apart from us finding out whether you called it "John" or "Hans"
#902 [13:13] <Morrolan> I don't even know whether it is in that error log, I was just guessing.
#903 [13:13] <Morrolan> You can search for it with a texteditor if you really want.
#904 [13:14] <Syrupey> It likes to be bi-polar and switch in between a small amount above 0%, then back up. Then it plateaus back to 0% for about 15 seconds before it happens again
#905 [13:14] * Oerg866 [Oerg866@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#906 [13:14] <pheleas_frog> i have no idea what my computer's name is anyway :I
#907 [13:14] <Syrupey> Once Minecraft is off, it goes back to 0% completely
#908 [13:14] <AureliusM> Syrupey: Try to connect to this test server: par.beastnode.com - see if the network use is still high
#909 [13:16] <pheleas_frog> im on pastebin.com...now how od i upload it?
#910 [13:16] <Syrupey> It just almost reached 25%, and now staying near 12.5%
#911 [13:16] <Syrupey> And back to 0%
#912 [13:17] * mib_otwf5w [mib_otwf5w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#913 [13:17] * Mrrcazysalad [Mrrcazysalad@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#914 [13:17] <Morrolan> pheleas_frog - Open the file, ctrl-a to select it all, ctrl-c to copy, then go to pastebin.com, click into the textfield, ctrl-v to paste, hit submit and finally give us the URL.
#915 [13:17] <Mrrcazysalad> is minecraft.net down
#916 [13:18] <AureliusM> !login
#917 [13:18] <pheleas_frog> what happens if i set this thing to private instead of public?
#918 [13:19] <Syrupey> And now it's going up a little from 0%
#919 [13:19] <Mrrcazysalad> i cant connect to minecraft
#920 [13:19] <AureliusM> Syrupey: I just tried mc.minetown.net with Far distance rendering and my network use peaked at 0.6 % and the 1.0 % when I walked around, otherwise it kept to close to 0%.
#921 [13:19] * ShaRose [ShaRose@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#922 [13:19] <Morrolan> Only visible for people you give the link to, pheleas_frog.
#923 [13:19] * SimenOlai [SimenOlai@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#924 [13:19] * ChanServ kicked SimenOlai from #minecrafthelp (Reason: imenOlai :User is banned from this channel)
#925 [13:20] <Morrolan> If you set it to public it can be accessed by anyone using Pastbin's search function.
#926 [13:20] <pheleas_frog> so shall i set it to private?
#927 [13:20] <Morrolan> Your choice. It's not as if it would do much harm if a random person would see it.
#928 [13:20] <Morrolan> But you can if you prefer.
#929 [13:20] <Mrrcazysalad> can someone help
#930 [13:20] <Syrupey> I use the max settings for everything
#931 [13:20] <Morrolan> Also, great, simenolai added it to his auto-join list again it seems.
#932 [13:20] <Morrolan> Mrrcazysalad - I'm able to log in, so probably no.
#933 [13:20] <AureliusM> Syrupey: The problem *may* be the particular server you connect to, or the use of mods to travel fast.
#934 [13:20] * peru [peru@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#935 [13:21] <pheleas_frog> i clicked upload, did this bot check thing, am i now on the page i need to give you the URL to?
#936 [13:21] <AureliusM> Syrupey: Or something else is interfering with the internet connection - I'm guessing now: firewall, proxy ?
#937 [13:21] * Harryhy [Harryhy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#938 [13:22] <Morrolan> Yes, pheleas_frog.
#939 [13:22] <Morrolan> It's the thingy shown in the address bar of your browser.
#940 [13:22] <Morrolan> should look something like "http://pastebin.com/D1ePpxm8", just with different letters at the end.
#941 [13:22] <pheleas_frog> and how do i adress it to a certain peson?
#942 [13:23] * blinky [blinky@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#943 [13:23] <Syrupey> I'm outdated to 1.0 most of the time. And the only thing that could be interfering is Norton
#944 [13:23] <pheleas_frog> you keep putting my name at the end of those messages ina green text...how?
#945 [13:23] <AureliusM> Mrrcazysalad: have you connected to minecraft.net before? Website and via Minecraft launcher?
#946 [13:23] <blinky> When i download Minecraft it opens, goes black, then closes. What can i do to fix this?
#947 [13:24] <Morrolan> pheleas_frog - That is done by your client, msot likely when I mention your nickname. As for sending it to a specific person only, use "/msg Person Stuffhere", e.g "/msg AureliusM Here is the error log you asked me about <link here>"
#948 [13:24] <Morrolan> You could also just put the link in here.
#949 [13:24] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: That's probably your IRC client, in my Opera IRC all I see is black text, my name is in blue, and others are in red. People joining appear green.
#950 [13:25] <AureliusM> Syrupey: Norton might be it then. From that 12.5% figure your internet must be 3 times better than mine, and I don't get server internet problems, except a pause when joining servers.
#951 [13:26] <blinky> Also when it closes it opens a document that say the error but it is very complicated an di cant read it. What should i do?
#952 [13:26] * izzd [izzd@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#953 [13:26] * sivrex [sivrex@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#954 [13:27] <Syrupey> Then how do I make it to where Norton doesn't conflict with the internet?
#955 [13:27] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: Thanks I've got your error logm the problem appears to be in your ATI driver. You will need to update them, do you how to?
#956 [13:27] <sivrex> when I innstalled the 1.0.1 and tryed to start the game crashed!!!
#957 [13:27] <blinky> When i download minecraft it opens, goes black, then closes, it also opens a strange document type program that says the error but i cant read it becuase it looks like a bunch of numbers. What should i do i can;t play minecraft?
#958 [13:28] <pheleas_frog> ATI driver? whats that?
#959 [13:28] * onwrd [onwrd@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#960 [13:28] <sivrex> me eather!!
#961 [13:28] <blinky> will soemone PLEASE help me!!!
#962 [13:28] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: Now, the error may *also* be because the ATI driver does not get enough memory. So you really do need to use the minecraft.jar from minecraft.net/download
#963 [13:29] * AureliusM is not sure if -Xmx works on the .exe
#963 [13:29] <pheleas_frog> i use the download -___- the browser is too slow for me
#964 [13:29] <blinky> HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!
#965 [13:29] <pheleas_frog> but what is an ATI driver? and how do i update it?
#966 [13:29] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: try this first: http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#967 [13:29] <blinky> im leaving this service stinks
#968 [13:30] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: Those are instructions from GreyVulpine , a long time regular here. Any problems with any step please ask
#969 [13:30] <pheleas_frog> service stinks!?!? this is great service...considering the internet can never give you personnal tutorials on what to do
#970 [13:31] * AureliusM sees some have too little patience
#970 [13:31] <pheleas_frog> umm what are these instructions gonna do, and i dont understand them.
#971 [13:32] <AureliusM> ??> sivrex patience
#972 [13:32] <VoxelHead> sivrex: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#973 [13:32] <VoxelHead> sivrex: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#974 [13:33] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: The first instruction there is to dowload the file minecraft.jar from https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar - this is exactly the same file as from minecraft.net/download under Other platforms
#975 [13:34] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: Mojang, the makers of minecraft, use https://s3.amazonaws.com to host the minecraft program files.
#976 [13:35] <pheleas_frog> why do i need to download the jar file? i already have it...
#977 [13:36] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: Where?
#978 [13:36] <pheleas_frog> in my .minecraft bin folder
#979 [13:36] <pheleas_frog> where it should be
#980 [13:38] <pheleas_frog> so why do i need to download another minecraft.jar?
#981 [13:39] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: the file minecraft.jar from https://s3.amazonaws.com/ is exactly the same file as from minecraft.net/download , but that is different from the one in the bin folder - the bin folder one is downloaded *by* the launcher minecraft.jar that is usually on the desktop. Two different files, same name, but two locations on the computer.
#982 [13:39] <pheleas_frog> oh.....im confused
#983 [13:39] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: well, you don't need to do *anything* if you are happy with Minecraft crashing every now and again.
#984 [13:40] * AureliusM is off for 2 minutes to start my supper
#984 [13:40] <pheleas_frog> >:( i am trying to do stuff...but im easily confused
#985 [13:41] <pheleas_frog> if you are talking about the launcher, i have it on my desktop
#986 [13:42] * AureliusM is back for 2 minutes
#986 [13:42] <pheleas_frog> so download it? okay ill do that now
#987 [13:43] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: If you want, skip the download instruction, but you will need to change the batch file to use the minecraft.exe instead.
#988 [13:43] <pheleas_frog> now what do i do with this `minecraft.jar` file
#989 [13:43] * toni [toni@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#990 [13:43] <pheleas_frog> i wnot skip instructions...that sounds confusing
#991 [13:45] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: Create a folder onyour desktop, name it test and then drag the minecraft.jar file from the desktop into this new test folder
#992 [13:47] <pheleas_frog> can i put it in my "Minecraft Stuff" folder? (it is a folder i made for all my minecraft junk, e.g. back-up saves, back-up texture packs, etc.)
#993 [13:48] * Tanjoodo [Tanjoodo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#994 [13:48] <pheleas_frog> done, now what
#995 [13:49] <toni> hello... i cant start minecraft...:( nothing works.. can you help me? i bought minecraft 3 days ago and downloaded it. but every time it says"cant connect to inecraft.net". sometimes the "play offline" button can be pressed. But when i do that theres a black screen.i think the problem is that the .minecraft folder is empty except the bin...?what can i do?
#996 [13:49] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: Then, line 12 of those instructions is : In the same folder, right click inside, choose new -> text document
#997 [13:50] <AureliusM> toni: Ok, do you have Java 6 update 30 ?
#998 [13:50] <toni> yes both 32bit and 64bit!
#999 [13:51] <pheleas_frog> ummm i got this error messge popping up when i moved it
#1000 [13:51] <toni> and the newest driver for my grafic card..
#1001 [13:51] <pheleas_frog> saying cant read from source or somehting like that
#1002 [13:51] <AureliusM> toni: No other Java installations? Are you using Windows ?
#1003 [13:52] <toni> my laptop is one year old, lenovo, i5, win7, nvidia
#1004 [13:52] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: Did you download the minecraft.jar file onto your desktop? Can you see it there? Right mouse click over it and click Properties. The name should be minecraft.jar and nothing else
#1005 [13:53] <pheleas_frog> it is just called minecraft...not minecraft.jar
#1006 [13:53] <toni> and no, i dont have other java installations..
#1007 [13:54] <AureliusM> toni: Check Java like this: click Start or Run click Control Panel, double click the java icon and click the Java tab then clcik the View button: there should be only one product : 1.6.0_30
#1008 [13:54] <pheleas_frog> it automaticly downloaded to my downloads folder
#1009 [13:54] * mib_4qegpf [mib_4qegpf@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1010 [13:54] <pheleas_frog> i had to move it to make it on my desktop
#1011 [13:54] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: You will need to open the download folder and drag the minecraft.jar out of there and into the test folder.
#1012 [13:55] * calatalee [calatalee@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1013 [13:55] <pheleas_frog> oh okay....?....alittle confused
#1014 [13:55] <mib_4qegpf> :(hey every one. I'm really stuck on getting onto servers, my other half set one up and everytime I try to get on it says that it can't be found ... help anyone :
#1015 [13:55] <pheleas_frog> i have the file on my desktop....isnt that good?
#1016 [13:56] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: It is less confusing to move into the test folder.
#1017 [13:56] <calatalee> Hi i have an existing account and i lost internet, when i went to login on my account once i got internet back i couldn't get in i tried everything can someone please help me
#1018 [13:56] * Tanjoodo [Tanjoodo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1019 [13:56] <toni> yes there is only on thing, 1.6.0_30 Java!
#1020 [13:56] <pheleas_frog> no imean cant i just move it from desktop to file?
#1021 [13:57] <pheleas_frog> is it bad now it has been in the desktop and not moved directly?
#1022 [13:57] <AureliusM> mib_4qegpf: In Minecraft's Multiplayer window there should be a list of servers you or someone else has added.
#1023 [13:57] <calatalee> i have the most resent java updates avalible
#1024 [13:57] <pheleas_frog> by bad i mean corrupted or something oike that
#1025 [13:57] <calatalee> isn't there a support number i can call ?
#1026 [13:57] <AureliusM> toni: Which bit sze 32 or 64? You said you had both which confused me.
#1027 [13:57] * Minecrafboxing [Minecrafboxing@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1028 [13:58] <mib_4qegpf> AureliusM: I added his server but it says it can't connect
#1029 [13:58] <AureliusM> calatalee: Ok, have you tried Options Force Update?
#1030 [13:58] <calatalee> yes but it doesn't do anything just sits there after i click done
#1031 [13:58] <AureliusM> mib_4qegpf: What is the server's URL ?
#1032 [13:59] <toni> i dont no, i just saw both in my list of all my programs...i take another look
#1033 [13:59] <Minecrafboxing> Hi, i got a problem when i use towny a normal guest or a citizen can remove,add blocks on the towns property but on citizens claimed plots not.Help.
#1034 [13:59] <pheleas_frog> btw in the propertiers it says that this file came from another computer and some stuff may be blocked...is this releavent...or does it not make much of a difference
#1035 [13:59] <AureliusM> calatalee: No images appear on the Minecraft window at all after you click done?
#1036 [13:59] <calatalee> nope
#1037 [13:59] <pheleas_frog> wow...poor aurealiusM........so many people using his help at once
#1038 [14:00] <AureliusM> calatalee: after you click done there is a Login button - when you click that what happens?
#1039 [14:02] * AuBot [AuBot@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1040 [14:02] <Minecrafboxing> i got a problem when i use towny a normal guest or a citizen can remove,add blocks on the towns property but on citizens claimed plots not.
#1041 [14:02] <pheleas_frog> so do i hneed to copy paste row 12 in the instructions into a notpad file?
#1042 [14:03] <AureliusM> calatalee: how long ago did you buy the minecraft account?
#1043 [14:03] <mib_4qegpf> AureliusM:the pc is thinking about connecting ...
#1044 [14:03] <calatalee> the beta stage
#1045 [14:03] <calatalee> when it was like 20 dollars
#1046 [14:03] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: "In the same folder, right click inside, choose new -> text document" <-- that line 12 ?
#1047 [14:04] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: line 16 is "Double click to open up the text document in notepad, paste these two lines in:"
#1048 [14:04] <pheleas_frog> it says put in these 2 lines:...i just see 1 line of text, not 2
#1049 [14:04] <calatalee> when i go to the website to login it says its an invalid username or password as well but i kno for sure its correct
#1050 [14:04] <AureliusM> calatalee: ok, what is your minecraft player name ?
#1051 [14:04] <calatalee> icywolf
#1052 [14:04] <toni> please do u have any other idea?
#1053 [14:05] <mib_4qegpf> AureliusM: nope, still not loved ... maybe its something wrong with my accont and not the server itself???
#1054 [14:05] <AureliusM> mib_4qegpf: It should connect quickly, something else might be interfering. What Antivirus or firewall do you have?
#1055 [14:05] <pheleas_frog> do i need to behave that space as though it was an [enter]
#1056 [14:05] <mib_4qegpf> none, i'm on ac
#1057 [14:05] <mib_4qegpf> mac
#1058 [14:06] <AureliusM> toni: Did you install the full minecraft into a complete separate folder? If in doubt we'll try a full reinstall by deleting all except saves from the bin folder
#1059 [14:06] * box [box@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1060 [14:06] <mib_4qegpf> but my java has been playing up of late .... do you recon tis that??
#1061 [14:07] <AureliusM> mib_4qegpf: Best is to undinatll all java and reinstall only Java 6 Update 6
#1062 [14:07] <AureliusM> mib_4qegpf: acck: uninstall
#1063 [14:07] <AureliusM> mib_4qegpf: http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp
#1064 [14:08] <toni> what seperate folder do you mean? i often reinstalled it or just deleted the bin folder it didnt work..
#1065 [14:08] <calatalee> this might be a stupid question but is it only able to be on one computer or can i login anywhere because i just built this computer and the account was origanally made on my dads pc which crashes alot
#1066 [14:08] <toni> theres always justthe bin folder and nothing else...
#1067 [14:08] <AureliusM> ??> toni win/reinst
#1068 [14:08] <VoxelHead> toni: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1069 [14:08] <VoxelHead> toni: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1070 [14:08] <mib_4qegpf> AureliusM: on it ... thank you so much <3
#1071 [14:09] <AureliusM> toni: Um, I think my message was for one of the others. A better question is what Anitivirus are you using?
#1072 [14:09] <toni> thx, but i have done this before and it didnt work
#1073 [14:10] <toni> :((
#1074 [14:10] <AureliusM> toni: Some antivirus programs stop minecraft from downloading from the internet
#1075 [14:10] <toni> anti vir, but not the premium version. but my brother has the same version and on his computer it runs....
#1076 [14:10] <toni> avira
#1077 [14:11] <toni> but i try it without a antivirus program;)
#1078 [14:11] <AureliusM> toni: The usual checklist we follow is: uninstall all Java install only Java 6; delete all in bin except saves; disable antivirus; after that we look at drivers and detail stuff
#1079 [14:12] <calatalee> norton is my antivirus
#1080 [14:12] <AureliusM> mib_4qegpf: what happened? You will need to install Java 6 after uninstalling.
#1081 [14:12] <toni> ok ill do so!
#1082 [14:13] <AureliusM> calatalee: Disable Norton, retry Minecraft, then re-eneable Norton
#1083 [14:13] <pheleas_frog> hello? sorry but i have waited awhile and got no respones from you areliusM
#1084 [14:13] * Diablodoct0r [Diablodoct0r@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1085 [14:13] * mib_ntm0vu [mib_ntm0vu@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1086 [14:13] <mib_4qegpf> AureliusM: the pc is looking at me funny and taking the rest of time to unnstall, bless it, I think he is sick of the abuse I put him though
#1087 [14:13] <mib_4qegpf> brb
#1088 [14:14] <mib_ntm0vu> aureliusm its catelly my internet closed cause it said i needed to close windows to uninstall it
#1089 [14:14] <pheleas_frog> it says to put in "these 2 lines:" but i see only 1 line of text, do i behave this space in the line as though it was an [enter]?
#1090 [14:14] <AureliusM> mib_4qegpf: It can take several minutes to install Java. But more details would be helpful.
#1091 [14:14] <mib_ntm0vu> im the one with icywolf username
#1092 [14:14] <pheleas_frog> -_-
#1093 [14:14] <mib_ntm0vu> so i just uninstalled java now what
#1094 [14:14] <pheleas_frog> sorry i did that fascw just to see if it made a facepicture
#1095 [14:15] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: Make the run.bat file look like this one, BUT not including the first line, just the 2nd and 3rd lines: http://pastebin.com/fhivjLdY
#1096 [14:16] <pheleas_frog> no no no im talking about row 16 and 19
#1097 [14:16] * th [th@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1098 [14:16] <AureliusM> !paid icywolf
#1099 [14:16] <mib_ntm0vu> yes
#1100 [14:17] <th> Hello all. Is this an official channel? I may require some assistance :(
#1101 [14:17] <mib_ntm0vu> i just uninstalled minecraft and java what next?
#1102 [14:18] <AureliusM> mib_ntm0vu: Ok, that's good, Can you login to minecraft.net with that name ?
#1103 [14:18] <AureliusM> mib_ntm0vu: Ignore my last
#1104 [14:18] <mib_ntm0vu> nope
#1105 [14:19] <AureliusM> mib_ntm0vu: Oh, what error does the login give?
#1106 [14:19] * RaptorofDoom [RaptorofDoom@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1107 [14:19] <mib_ntm0vu> it gave login failed
#1108 [14:19] <RaptorofDoom> ?
#1109 [14:19] <th> Where I can find help with my payment problem?
#1110 [14:19] <AureliusM> th: You'll need to be patient there's only me here at the moment.
#1111 [14:20] <pheleas_frog> im confused, can you tell me exactly what to put in this notepad file
#1112 [14:20] <th> AureliusM, okay. Just doesn't have patience when it's my money lost :(
#1113 [14:20] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: Please read the instructions carefully : http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2 there are two lines that need to be in the run.bat file
#1114 [14:21] <RaptorofDoom> I bought a Minecraft code through pay-pal and received an error shortly after purchase. I was charged, yet did not get what I paid for. Any suggestions?
#1115 [14:21] <pheleas_frog> run.bat file? it's a notepad file isnt it?!
#1116 [14:21] <th> AureliusM, plz hilight me when you have time
#1117 [14:22] <AureliusM> mib_ntm0vu: Ok, username is correct, so maybe the password is wrong. But first, has there ever been any pirated game programs on that PC? You may need to check your Hosts file.
#1118 [14:23] * RaptorofDoom [RaptorofDoom@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1119 [14:23] <RaptorofDoom> A Minecraft Gift code was purchased through pay-pal, I was charged and I never got the code. Instead, I received an error message? I'd like to get what I paid for. I have the receipt.
#1120 [14:23] <RaptorofDoom> Any suggestions?
#1121 [14:23] <mib_ntm0vu> nope, but if its my password i can't reset it because my email on that account isn't active anymore hense why i didn't reset it yet
#1122 [14:24] <AureliusM> mib_ntm0vu: I'm catching up with your messages, you uninstalled java and then reinstalled Java 6? You deleted all files except saves from the bin folder and retried minecraft but still get login failed? And your email account is inactive - can you reactivate it?
#1123 [14:25] <pheleas_frog> the instructions put the writting as: java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame [enter] [enter] pause..is it 2 [enters] or just 1?
#1124 [14:25] <mib_ntm0vu> no
#1125 [14:25] <mib_ntm0vu> different internet provider
#1126 [14:26] <AureliusM> mib_ntm0vu: If you cannot login to minecraft.net it's best to go through http://www.minecraft.net/support - and maybe email help@mojang.com
#1127 [14:27] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: As long as you have at least one Enter between the lines, it's ok
#1128 [14:28] <mib_ntm0vu> ok thank you so much for your assistance
#1129 [14:28] <AureliusM> RaptorofDoom: Did paypal email you receipt id ?
#1130 [14:28] <AureliusM> ?? accounts
#1131 [14:28] <VoxelHead> accounts: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#1132 [14:29] <RaptorofDoom> Alright. Thanks.
#1133 [14:29] <mib_ntm0vu> umm do they have a phone number or just an email ?
#1134 [14:30] <AureliusM> RaptorofDoom: outside of paypal some banks block international transactions, but the answer is always contact paypal or the bank, only they can answer
#1135 [14:30] <RaptorofDoom> AureliusM, I did receive the receipt from Pay-pal, meaning, I was charged.
#1136 [14:30] <pheleas_frog> now what does running this batch file do?
#1137 [14:30] <AureliusM> RaptorofDoom: then if it's been more than 3 days say, chase mojan up via http://www.minecraft.net/support and help@mojang.com
#1138 [14:30] * harry [harry@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1139 [14:31] <pheleas_frog> after making this batch file......what do i do?
#1140 [14:31] <RaptorofDoom> I've sent an Email to Support@Mojang.com
#1141 [14:31] <AureliusM> RaptorofDoom: there's a choice "I didn't receive the email with the gift code" at http://www.minecraft.net/support
#1142 [14:31] <Guest78728> help i have paid for minecraft but cant get the download or run the game
#1143 [14:32] <RaptorofDoom> Alright, thanks.
#1144 [14:32] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: make sure you saved this file named as run.bat with the type "all files"
#1145 [14:32] <pheleas_frog> i did
#1146 [14:32] <AureliusM> Guest78728: Windows?
#1147 [14:32] <pheleas_frog> now what does this file do?
#1148 [14:32] <Guest78728> yes it is windows
#1149 [14:32] * AlphaBlend [AlphaBlend@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1150 [14:33] <AureliusM> Guest78728: And have you download the minecraft.exe client fom minecraft.net/download ? If yes, what error is it reporting?
#1151 [14:33] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: run.bat will launch minecraft with less memory than usual
#1152 [14:33] <pheleas_frog> i have togo to dinner now, afterwards, can yuo continue to help me?
#1153 [14:34] <Guest78728> we have got minecraft.exe but no error
#1154 [14:34] <AureliusM> pheleas_frog: It is still the same Minecraft, just with instructions to java to use a lot less memory
#1155 [14:34] <AureliusM> Guest78728: What happens when you double click minecraft.exe ?
#1156 [14:35] <Guest78728> hang on i will try and comeback
#1157 [14:35] <RaptorofDoom> AureliusM, my options according to the link you sent me are wait a few days for the Email to reach me, or go to my profile where i can view the code immidately. Where do I go to view the code?
#1158 [14:35] <AureliusM> ??> th accounts
#1159 [14:35] <VoxelHead> th: (accounts) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#1160 [14:35] <th> VoxelHead, thx
#1161 [14:35] <AureliusM> RaptorofDoom: http://www.minecraft.net/ and click login then click profile
#1162 [14:36] <AureliusM> RaptorofDoom: that is, go to http://www.minecraft.net/ and click login , enter user name, enter password, click sign in . Then click the Profile link at the top
#1163 [14:37] <Guest78728> its harry aca guest78728, windows cant open it
#1164 [14:37] * Phayze [Phayze@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1165 [14:38] <AureliusM> Guest78728: aka harry: What does Windows say when you double click minecraft.exe ?
#1166 [14:38] <RaptorofDoom> I've done this, where is it dispayed?
#1167 [14:39] <Guest78728> what programme created it
#1168 [14:40] * Electrochock [Electrochock@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1169 [14:40] <Electrochock> Good evening
#1170 [14:40] <AureliusM> Guest78728: aka harry: Right mouse click over minecraft,exe and click Properties, it should say minecraft.exe and should be about 260 kilobytes in size
#1171 [14:41] <AureliusM> RaptorofDoom: Under Gift codes on the Profile page, if theer are none llisted then taht account did not buy any. Or I guess there's been a delay in clearing payment.
#1172 [14:42] * AureliusM is off for 90 seconds
#1172 [14:42] <RaptorofDoom> I did buy it, I have the receipt to prove the transaction even took place....
#1173 [14:42] <Guest78728> it says 9.66 kb
#1174 [14:43] <AureliusM> Guest78728: Then that is not minecraft.exe. Which browser are you using to download ?
#1175 [14:44] <AureliusM> RaptorofDoom: Were you logged in to that same account when you purchased the gift code? F
#1176 [14:44] <Guest78728> sorry im dumb what is a browser
#1177 [14:45] <AureliusM> Guest78728: internet browser like Internet Explorer, Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Opera, Lynx.
#1178 [14:45] <RaptorofDoom> Yes, I was.
#1179 [14:45] <Guest78728> we use google chrome
#1180 [14:46] <RaptorofDoom> Like I said before, after the transaction and the purchase, I was redirected to Minecraft.net where I received an error. I did not get the code, yet I was charged. I'd just like to get what I paid for.
#1181 [14:47] * |Kiikun|Janus| [|Kiikun|Janus|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1182 [14:47] <AureliusM> RaptorofDoom: is that account a premium account? Ie. did you first buy an account and then buy a gift code ?
#1183 [14:47] <AureliusM> RaptorofDoom: What error message?
#1184 [14:48] <RaptorofDoom> I don't know the error message, I didn't stay on the page. The account was not premium, the whole reason for the purchase was to get a code for the same account on a different PC.
#1185 [14:48] <AureliusM> RaptorofDoom: Did you start the purchase from minecraft.net ?
#1186 [14:48] <RaptorofDoom> Yes.
#1187 [14:49] <AureliusM> RaptorofDoom: And the buy link took you to paypal or moneybookers, and you chose paypal?
#1188 [14:49] <AureliusM> RaptorofDoom: I am unclear what you mean by "for the same account on a different PC"
#1189 [14:50] <RaptorofDoom> I went from here. http://www.minecraft.net/store/gift and selected Pay-Pal as my payment option.
#1190 [14:51] <RaptorofDoom> AureliusM, rather than buying the game on a PC where the game is intensely laggy. I chose to buy a gift code so I could just redeem the Premium on the same account on a different computer, which is being fixed.
#1191 [14:53] <AureliusM> RaptorofDoom: Well, I'm out of ideas, it's best to keep emailing mojang.com with the details. Also, I am unsure you can redeem a gift code on the same account that bought it, although I've never tried that. Nevertheless the gift codes should be listed under the Profile for the account that bought it.
#1192 [14:54] <RaptorofDoom> Alright, thanks anyway.
#1193 [14:54] <AureliusM> Guest78728: Look inside Chrome's download folder for minecraft.exe
#1194 [14:54] * AureliusM is off for 2 minutes to tend to his kitchen
#1194 [14:59] <Guest78728> it keeps on coming up minecraft news
#1195 [14:59] <Guest78728> on the launcher page
#1196 [15:00] <AureliusM> Guest78728: that's correct, does it also show the login and Options buttons?
#1197 [15:00] * mib_ka4zgh [mib_ka4zgh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1198 [15:00] <Guest78728> yes
#1199 [15:01] <AureliusM> Guest78728: Can you move (or drag) the minecraft.exe out of Chrome's download folder and place it on the desktop?
#1200 [15:02] * Capitalist2010 [Capitalist2010@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1201 [15:02] <Capitalist2010> What is the smallest horizontal block changer? Got a link to a tutorial / schematic for it?
#1202 [15:04] <Guest78728> how!
#1203 [15:04] <AureliusM> Guest78728: Or, retry the download but change Chrome's options somehow. I do not use Chrome maybe this helps: http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=95759
#1204 [15:05] <AureliusM> Guest78728: Or use a different browser such as Firefox
#1205 [15:06] <AureliusM> Guest78728: You need to tell whatever browser you use to download the fiel and place it where *you* want and not where the browser wants.
#1206 [15:07] <AureliusM> Capitalist2010: try google and search minecraftforum.net, sometimes reddit has posts for stuff like that
#1207 [15:08] <AureliusM> Capitalist2010: All I have ever built is a vertical block changer, part of the 3 x 3 door
#1208 [15:08] <Guest78728> its now on the desktop
#1209 [15:09] <AureliusM> Guest78728: Ok, good, can you right mouse click over it and check the properties? File size should be about 260 KB
#1210 [15:09] <Guest78728> yes 263kb
#1211 [15:10] <AureliusM> Guest78728: Ok, what happens when you double click it?
#1212 [15:11] <Guest78728> we run it and then it goes to minecraft news on the launcher page
#1213 [15:11] <AureliusM> Guest78728: What happens when you enter username and password and click Login?
#1214 [15:12] * quibbit [quibbit@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1215 [15:13] * Pyro [Pyro@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1216 [15:13] <Guest78728> the page disappears and appears as a note pad type file on the desk top
#1217 [15:13] <quibbit> my minecraft when loading says it has crashed
#1218 [15:14] <AureliusM> Guest78728: Does the notepad file start with an error message ?
#1219 [15:15] <Guest78728> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x4921f52c, pid=2356, tid=296 # # JRE version: 6.0_25-b06 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.0-b11 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C 0x4921f52c # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: # http://java.
#1220 [15:16] <AureliusM> ??> Guest78728 pastebin
#1221 [15:16] <VoxelHead> Guest78728: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1222 [15:16] <Guest74946> I'm having an issue where minecraft simply does not update to 1.1. I've tried force update, but it doesnt seem to work. Any solution?
#1223 [15:16] <AureliusM> Guest78728: Ok, normally we use pastebin for long text, but that looks like your graphics drivers need updating
#1224 [15:17] <Guest78728> how do we update them
#1225 [15:17] <AureliusM> Guest78728: To be sure, could you paste the whole error into pastebin.com ?
#1226 [15:17] <quibbit> my minecraft dosesn't even start up then says its crashed
#1227 [15:18] <AureliusM> quibbit: Can you get the error message into pastebin.com for us ?
#1228 [15:18] <AureliusM> ??> quibbit pastebin
#1229 [15:18] <VoxelHead> quibbit: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1230 [15:18] <AureliusM> quibbit: At the same time, please give details of the computer: RAM, CPU, operating system?
#1231 [15:19] <Guest78728> its in pastebin how do i send it to you
#1232 [15:19] <quibbit> ive done the paste bin
#1233 [15:20] <AureliusM> Guest78728: Copy the web page address link from the address bar at top and paste that link here
#1234 [15:20] * MrFr33ze [MrFr33ze@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1235 [15:20] <AureliusM> quibbit: same for you as for Guest78728: Copy the web page address link from the address bar at top and paste that link here
#1236 [15:20] <Guest78728> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x4921f52c, pid=2356, tid=296 # # JRE version: 6.0_25-b06 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.0-b11 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C 0x4921f52c # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: # http://java.s
#1237 [15:20] <AureliusM> quibbit: Copy the web page address link from the address bar at top of the pastebin.com page - to be clearer
#1238 [15:21] <quibbit> http://pastebin.com/kU7tzmY6
#1239 [15:21] <AureliusM> Guest78728: -> In your browser click in the address field at the top and select all and copy and paste that here, not the whoile text again
#1240 [15:21] <MrFr33ze> Ok so I ordered this game for my son this morning and pay pal says the transaction is complete and my bank has processed it but my sons account is saying we still need to buy the game. Any ideas?
#1241 [15:21] <pheleas_frog> hello, im back
#1242 [15:22] * mib_zszs7e [mib_zszs7e@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1243 [15:22] <AureliusM> quibbit: Are you using mods?
#1244 [15:22] <quibbit> 2