#1 [00:00] <DopeGhoti> ..pretty much everything takes a while in Java (:
#2 [00:00] <DopeGhoti> that said: Mmmm, SQLite.
#3 [00:00] <Steve[MBA]> lol
#4 [00:01] <Steve[MBA]> I dunno, I code in python
#5 [00:01] <DopeGhoti> (even though it's not so Lite, I sometimes wich SQLite would allow for properly restrictive FK constraints)
#6 [00:01] <DopeGhoti> Mmm, Python.
#7 [00:01] * DopeGhoti approves of Python.
#7 [00:01] <Steve[MBA]> http://bukget.org/
#8 [00:02] <DopeGhoti> so it's apt-get for bukkit plugins? (:
#9 [00:02] <Steve[MBA]> thinking I'll just refactor the child server parser
#10 [00:02] <Steve[MBA]> yeah, I'm writing the server-side
#11 [00:02] <DopeGhoti> keen.
#12 [00:02] <Steve[MBA]> some people have been interfacing into it as they want
#13 [00:03] <Steve[MBA]> im just not a java guy, so writing into bukkit directly is just not for me
#14 [00:03] <Steve[MBA]> baskit was originally supported to be the bukget client, but people preferred something that was a plugin in the server
#15 [00:04] <Steve[MBA]> im not gonna argue, however I'm starting to think that a non-plugin app that handles everything may make more sense long-term
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#17 [00:04] <Steve[MBA]> i mean, it's not like I can't py2exe what i write for the wintel peeps
#18 [00:06] <Steve[MBA]> If you wanna see nastiness, look at the _parent_update function
#19 [00:07] <Steve[MBA]> also _plugin_update()
#20 [00:07] <Steve[MBA]> they both are basically using BeautifulSoup to parse the HTML
#21 [00:07] <Steve[MBA]> gotta love how "helpful" curse is in not providing what I had to write
#22 [00:09] <JohnEBH> Baskit? =O
#23 [00:10] <JohnEBH> Internal server error?
#24 [00:10] <JohnEBH> Mojang is a good company? xD
#25 [00:11] <Steve[MBA]> https://github.com/SteveMcGrath/baskit
#26 [00:11] <Steve[MBA]> thats baskit
#27 [00:11] <Steve[MBA]> I'm actually gonna rewrite it to support downloading spout & vanila servers as well
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#29 [00:12] <Steve[MBA]> the server error is b/c I never re-wrote the webpage on the new bukget code :-p
#30 [00:13] <Steve[MBA]> everythign is there for it except the markdown file with the details :-p
#31 [00:13] * JohnEBH pretends to understand
#31 [00:13] <JohnEBH> <:
#32 [00:13] <Steve[MBA]> JohnEBH: http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/
#33 [00:14] <Steve[MBA]> I use markdown in my webapps instead of straight html
#34 [00:14] <Steve[MBA]> I find it easier to read and less infuriating
#35 [00:15] <Steve[MBA]> JohnEBH: example: here is the markdown for the home page on bukget.org: https://raw.github.com/SteveMcGrath/bukget/master/content/home_page.md
#36 [00:15] <DopeGhoti> JohnEBH: it is. Relevant link is relevant.
#37 [00:15] <Steve[MBA]> the only HTML in the doc is the anchor links
#38 [00:16] * DopeGhoti <3 Markdown
#38 [00:16] <DopeGhoti> More things should support it.
#39 [00:16] <Steve[MBA]> DopeGhoti: all of my apps use it
#40 [00:16] <Steve[MBA]> it just makes soo much sense to have a markdown parser do all the heavy-lifting for you in that case
#41 [00:17] <Jackson413> hee hee
#42 [00:17] <Steve[MBA]> helps when there is a native one for pythong
#43 [00:17] <Steve[MBA]> *python
#44 [00:17] <Jackson413> Steve[MBA], need ones for pyloning as well
#45 [00:18] <Jackson413> harr harr
#46 [00:18] <Steve[MBA]> the wine makes for better code that has more errors :-p
#47 [00:18] <DopeGhoti> it's also delightfully more readable (Though I'm not completely fluent and I still need to RTFM now and again).
#48 [00:18] <Steve[MBA]> same applys for gen text ;)
#49 [00:18] <DopeGhoti> Using .py helps mitigate the code-dampening effects of wine.
#50 [00:18] <Steve[MBA]> DopeGhoti: gotcha, yeah I've used it enough that I do most docs in it IMHO
#51 [00:18] <DopeGhoti> TTANTS: wine, WINE
#52 [00:19] <Steve[MBA]> :-p
#53 [00:19] <Steve[MBA]> DopeGhoti: if your on a Mac, there are a couple of good apps for MD as well
#54 [00:19] <Steve[MBA]> mainly Marked & Byline
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#56 [00:24] <DopeGhoti> I am intermittently on a Mac; I primariliy use Linux however, with the occasional dash of Windows for native games.
#57 [00:26] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti, you forgot to build enough supply depots!!!
#58 [00:27] <Steve[MBA]> DopeGhoti: gotcha, I'm primarially a Mac guy. I use Linux for servers and Wintel only when I need to...mostly games
#59 [00:28] <ngc0202> Wintel?
#60 [00:29] <Steve[MBA]> ngc0202: WinTel == Windows + Intel
#61 [00:29] <ngc0202> Ahh
#62 [00:29] <Steve[MBA]> ;)
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#64 [00:32] <DopeGhoti> I'm perfectly happy in any POSIX environment (:
#65 [00:32] <Steve[MBA]> DopeGhoti: well all the nice dev apps in OSX keep me here
#66 [00:33] <DopeGhoti> (as it happens, I'm on a Mac right now, SSHed into my Linux box running my IRC client in byobu)
#67 [00:33] <Steve[MBA]> :-p
#68 [00:33] <DopeGhoti> xcode is pretty aweseome.
#69 [00:33] <Jackson413> guys
#70 [00:33] <Jackson413> seriously
#71 [00:33] <Steve[MBA]> I like TextMate more for scripting
#72 [00:33] <Jackson413> you arent building enough units
#73 [00:33] <Steve[MBA]> Jackson413: wassup?
#74 [00:33] <DopeGhoti> I built some stuff in Xcode 2 back in the day; I need to learn myself some Xcode4 when time permits.
#75 [00:33] <Steve[MBA]> honeslty i never use XCode :-p
#76 [00:33] <Jackson413> not nearly enough scvs
#77 [00:34] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: whaa?
#78 [00:34] <Jackson413> (harr harr)
#79 [00:34] <Jackson413> making starcraft references
#80 [00:34] <Jackson413> :D
#81 [00:34] <Steve[MBA]> TextMate + bpython + Git-Tower
#82 [00:34] <Steve[MBA]> :-p
#83 [00:34] <DopeGhoti> Steve[MBA]: Huh. What mac-specific dev environment were you refering to?
#84 [00:34] <DopeGhoti> ah
#85 [00:34] <Steve[MBA]> virtualenv is a must as well
#86 [00:34] <Jackson413> mac is gross!
#87 [00:34] <DopeGhoti> My boss has been evangelizing SlickEdit
#88 [00:34] <DopeGhoti> (to the point where he bought me a license)
#89 [00:35] <Steve[MBA]> DopeGhoti: it's alright, I used to use it when I was a trading firm. still prefer TextMate
#90 [00:35] <DopeGhoti> I have yet to install it, and love vim
#91 [00:35] <Steve[MBA]> Jackson413: e-text-editor is a textmate clone for windows
#92 [00:35] <Steve[MBA]> vim++
#93 [00:35] <DopeGhoti> I hear good things about TextMate, and see tons of "do this TextMate like thing in vim" plugins everywhere
#94 [00:35] <Steve[MBA]> yeah
#95 [00:36] <Steve[MBA]> the power for textmate comes in that you can write plugins for it in python, ruby, and perl
#96 [00:36] <DopeGhoti> The best selling point S made for SlickEdit is that you can use vim key bindings out-of-the-box
#97 [00:36] <DopeGhoti> ..that is kinda neat.
#98 [00:36] <Steve[MBA]> yeah, and people are always writing additions to it
#99 [00:36] <DopeGhoti> .py-based extensibility? Now you're talking my language (:
#100 [00:37] <Steve[MBA]> exactly
#101 [00:37] <Jackson413> np++?
#102 [00:37] <Steve[MBA]> bpython + virtualenv is an awsome combo as well for testing & prototyping
#103 [00:37] <Steve[MBA]> i use virtualenv for production to
#104 [00:38] * DopeGhoti makes a note to STFW for this virtualenv of which you speak
#104 [00:38] <DopeGhoti> ?find DopeGhoti virtualenv
#105 [00:38] <VoxelHead> DopeGhoti, http://is.gd/os374t
#106 [00:39] <Steve[MBA]> DopeGhoti: virtualenv basically allows you to make a pristine python environment that can or cannot link into the global site packages
#107 [00:39] <DopeGhoti> Huh.
#108 [00:40] <Steve[MBA]> the advantage comes in where you can have varying versions of the same package on the same box
#109 [00:40] <DopeGhoti> Ah, gotcha.
#110 [00:40] <Steve[MBA]> for example, lets say your prod code requires SQLAlchemy 0.6.0, but your dev code uses 0.7.0. you can setup virtual envs and install both
#111 [00:41] <Steve[MBA]> its why the first 20lines of my code look a little odd: https://github.com/SteveMcGrath/bukget/blob/master/server.py
#112 [00:43] <DopeGhoti> so it's rather like /etc/alternatives, for python libraries. I dig.
#113 [00:44] <Steve[MBA]> yeah
#114 [00:44] <Steve[MBA]> i would more call it like a python chroot
#115 [00:45] <Steve[MBA]> it does some magic and shims the python paths to talk to the venv instead of the globals first
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#117 [00:56] <AussieMaggy4510> I want to set up a server again but with hamachi.
#118 [00:56] <AussieMaggy4510> now i don't know what to do
#119 [00:56] <AndrewPH> DopeGhoti: sublimetext has python plugin ability too :(
#120 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> We provide no support for servers run on Hamachi here.
#121 [00:57] <AussieMaggy4510> dawn
#122 [00:57] <AussieMaggy4510> and where is a support about this
#123 [00:58] <AussieMaggy4510> /exit bye
#124 [00:58] <AussieMaggy4510> shit
#125 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> Try /quit
#126 [01:01] <DopeGhoti> That went surprisingly painlessly.
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#128 [01:03] <vilereaver> can i get help with something please?
#129 [01:03] <Steve[MBA]> woot....i think the code is working ^_^
#130 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> vilereaver - Only if you tell us with what.
#131 [01:03] <vilereaver> well early yesterday minecraft was working great smooth fps etc but then at 6:pm for some reason it started to stutter like crazy
#132 [01:04] <vilereaver> no lag just stuttering
#133 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> Operating system? Java version?
#134 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> Have you rebooted since then?
#135 [01:05] <vilereaver> fmy operating system is a 32bit and my java is up to date. well im not sure my brother did have it on hibernate.
#136 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> May want to try a reboot.
#137 [01:06] <vilereaver> ok thanks il do that now
#138 [01:07] <DopeGhoti> did your computer start nevermind you're gon
#139 [01:07] <DopeGhoti> er, gone
#140 [01:07] <DopeGhoti> I suspect automated virus scan kicked off at 18:00
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#142 [01:15] <mib_hv0pv2> hey pip
#143 [01:15] <mib_hv0pv2> pipola are u here?
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#156 [03:15] <Ninetails> minecraft keeps freezing at the loading screen, how do i fix this?
#157 [03:15] <Ninetails> minecraft keeps freezing at the loading screen, how do i fix this?
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#162 [03:27] <rev-lemon> Ninetails
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#165 [03:32] <Ninetails> yes?
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#169 [03:38] <rev-lemon> ok how long as mc been playing up
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#171 [03:50] <Calinou> rev-lemon: he left :P
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#173 [04:00] <rev-lemon> doh
#174 [04:00] <rev-lemon> !
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#185 [06:04] <Rainbow_DJ> my email isn't reseving the verification key what do i do
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#188 [06:19] <libraryaddict> Is it possible to drown in lava?
#189 [06:28] <rev-lemon> libraryaddict depends on themode of game your in and yes
#190 [06:28] <libraryaddict> I know you cant die in creative..
#191 [06:28] <libraryaddict> And you cant drown in lava.
#192 [06:28] <libraryaddict> You burn too fast
#193 [06:28] <libraryaddict> >:D
#194 [06:29] <rev-lemon> in creative no you cant die but you can swim in it :P
#195 [06:29] <libraryaddict> mm
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#221 [09:41] <hipy> wtf!!! I just updated my server and now my dence forrest has snow etc
#222 [09:41] <hipy> why do those retarded biomes keep changing
#223 [09:41] <hipy> a forrest with snow??
#224 [09:41] <hipy> wtf is that
#225 [09:42] <xales> Are/were you using mods?
#226 [09:42] <xales> If so, that would be why.
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#228 [09:43] <hipy> No, its a multiplayer server
#229 [09:44] <DreadLindwyrm> What did you update from, and to?
#230 [09:44] <hipy> 1.0 to 1.1
#231 [09:44] <hipy> but i see now
#232 [09:44] <hipy> i have toundra trees
#233 [09:44] <hipy> but it snowed for the first time
#234 [09:44] <hipy> so i guess, it WHAS bugged and it sint anymore
#235 [09:44] <hipy> isnt*
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#237 [09:49] <wizzle> I'm like 5 days new to minecraft. Is it possible to run server commands such as tp within minecraft?
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#240 [09:53] <pudgetta> gibt es minecraft 1.2 schon?
#241 [09:53] <TheNoodle> Yes wizzle
#242 [09:54] <TheNoodle> From the console type op your_name
#243 [09:54] <TheNoodle> then you can use any console commands in game by prefixing them with /
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#245 [09:55] <hipy> I have a problem, as soon as i join my server, my game lags and then i crash its since i updated to 1.1
#246 [09:56] <pudgetta> weiß einer wan minecraft 1.2 rauskommt?
#247 [09:57] <wizzle> How do you get console or are you refering to the server console?
#248 [09:59] <Boreeas> pudgetta: Woher sollen wir das wissen?
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#263 [10:54] <hipy> Hi i need some help, as soon as i spawn in my survival world(server) i lag and crash
#264 [10:54] <hipy> but if i spawn in my other world, nothing happens
#265 [10:54] <hipy> i already used some world fixing tools
#266 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Could be the world's just corrupt and there is nothing you can do about it
#267 [10:55] <Grim_Reaper> ^
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#271 [11:06] <Cao> Hello everybody my game is crashing consumes too much CPU (OS jre6 Debian), and it is impossible to play, someone has gone through this?
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#280 [11:50] <Hellcrasher> any support guys here
#281 [11:52] <Hellcrasher> hey i need help. I am currently trying to update my minecraft. i am on 1.8.1 been 6 months since i played. when i pull up the launcher i get this long string that basically says failed to update news permission denied. with a whole bunch of Java characters in the string. I login, asks to update then i get a fatal error (4) Permission denied connect. So, i deleted minecraft folder
#282 [11:52] <Hellcrasher> redownloaded the launcher
#283 [11:54] <Hellcrasher> same exact thing. i actually turned off my firewall and antivirus and still the same issue. I have a computer at my FEET and i decided to try there. upone trying i successfully installed minecraft on my 2nd computer. so i just took the folder and transfered it over to this PC, still the same problems with the news page. But now it doesnt ask me if i want to update... But now i have no
#284 [11:54] <Hellcrasher> sound. So i still have no NEWS feed which means i wont ever be able to update, and i have no sound now in minecraft
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#288 [12:01] <Hellcrasher> anyone?
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#292 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> Hellcrasher - If you have java 7 installed, uninstall it. Reinstall 6 instead
#293 [12:05] <xbonesx> I run LWC, essentials, mutli-verse (and portals) and worldedit. Could someone post an example of permissions.yml. I'm not entirely sure how to set up one. Pastbin it please?
#294 [12:05] <xbonesx> I want to studdy it
#295 [12:06] <xbonesx> study*
#296 [12:06] <Boreeas> Wonder hwy I never had problemms with J7
#297 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> For bukkit help, try #bukkit
#298 [12:07] * Boreeas needs to learn how to tpye
#298 [12:07] <xbonesx> GreyVulpine: talking to me?
#299 [12:08] * GreyVulpine nods
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#300 [12:09] <Hellcrasher> ok i will trying installing 6
#301 [12:11] <Hellcrasher> wher can i check my current java version
#302 [12:12] <Hellcrasher> ok i have Java 6 installed
#303 [12:12] <Hellcrasher> not 7... i never had 7
#304 [12:12] <Hellcrasher> so that doesnt fix it
#305 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> Hellcrasher - Could you tell us what the news feed says?
#306 [12:13] <xbonesx> Hellcrasher: i heard java 7 works really well with minecraft...
#307 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> xbonesx - I can dispute that.
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#309 [12:14] <Hellcrasher> well regaurdless... both PC's i mentioned have the SAME version of Java
#310 [12:15] <Hellcrasher> and 1 works while the other doesnt
#311 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Hellcrasher - On the one that doesn't, you said there's some text in the news feed
#312 [12:15] <Hellcrasher> both running windows 7
#313 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell us what it says?
#314 [12:15] <Hellcrasher> ya here
#315 [12:15] <Hellcrasher> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: connect</center></font></body></html>
#316 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> I'm positive it's Java 7 installed on that computer that it's doing that
#317 [12:16] <Hellcrasher> i dont know if it matters.. but the one that DOES work never had MC on it before
#318 [12:16] <Hellcrasher> well i went to the Java site
#319 [12:16] <Hellcrasher> and it said Congrats you already have Java 6 installed!
#320 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Don't.. go there
#321 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Windows 7, yes?
#322 [12:16] <Hellcrasher> yes
#323 [12:16] <Hellcrasher> Verified Java Version
#324 [12:16] <Hellcrasher> Congratulations!
#325 [12:16] <Hellcrasher> You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 30).
#326 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu and go to the control panel. Head to Programs and features
#327 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> I will bet you money right now, that Java 7 is installed in that list
#328 [12:17] <Hellcrasher> lol
#329 [12:17] <Hellcrasher> i do
#330 [12:17] <Hellcrasher> lol
#331 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall it. Minecraft will work again
#332 [12:18] <Hellcrasher> i actually have 6 and 7 isntalled lol
#333 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall 7, leave 6 installed
#334 [12:18] <Hellcrasher> i am i just find that funny
#335 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> It happens.
#336 [12:19] <xbonesx> GreyVulpine: sorry i missed your dispute comment, how so?
#337 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> xbonesx - Let's find out, shall we? Hellcrasher here has Java 7 installed, and is having problems
#338 [12:19] <Hellcrasher> nioce it works.. your right it was Java 7
#339 [12:20] * GreyVulpine nods
#339 [12:20] <xbonesx> hahaha
#340 [12:20] <Hellcrasher> i uninstalled it and it works.. now.. 1 last thing.. i have no sound still lol
#341 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Hellcrasher - Try going to %appdata%/.minecraft and clearing everything out there. Minecraft should redownload everything next time you log in
#342 [12:20] <xbonesx> must be the different computers i run java 7 on my desktop and laptop just fine, i also run the 64bit version. lappy is an intel duo 2.5 and the desk is 3.4 amd
#343 [12:21] <Hellcrasher> mad props to you Grey you are the ONLY person across 5 forums that new that Java 7 was the problem
#344 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> xbonesx - For a few, Java 7 works with minecraft, and even gives a small performance boost.
#345 [12:21] <Hellcrasher> nice sound is working.. i just Force updated
#346 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> xbonesx - For many that come by here, Java 7's been known to cause problems, like Hellcrasher's
#347 [12:21] <Hellcrasher> thanks Grey really appreciate it
#348 [12:21] <xbonesx> ya i think i got the performance boost, little less choppy on the 2.5 duo
#349 [12:21] * GreyVulpine tips hat
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#350 [12:22] <xbonesx> i wonder why they conflict on certain pcs and not others...
#351 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> Java 7's been known to cause "Can't connect to minecraft.net", news feed not loading, black screens, done loading, among other problems
#352 [12:23] <xbonesx> oh i don't connect to minecraft servers... i haven't bought the game "yet"
#353 [12:23] * GreyVulpine coughs
#353 [12:23] <Hellcrasher> lol
#354 [12:23] <Hellcrasher> wow
#355 [12:23] <Hellcrasher> he actually said that in here
#356 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> We frown upon minecraft piracy here...
#357 [12:23] <xbonesx> intend to now that i know its such a great game just waiting for the paycheck
#358 [12:23] <Hellcrasher> o_0 riiiiight
#359 [12:24] <xbonesx> i know, but at least i buy the games i really like and quit using the ones i dont
#360 [12:24] <Hellcrasher> just like i plan on marrying my gf right? lol
#361 [12:24] * GreyVulpine winces.
#361 [12:24] <Hellcrasher> lol
#362 [12:24] <Hellcrasher> nae messsing.. i really do plan on it
#363 [12:24] <Hellcrasher> or do i?
#364 [12:24] * GreyVulpine walks away from this conversation.
#364 [12:24] <Hellcrasher> lol
#365 [12:24] <xbonesx> serious would you like to look at my computer and see how much pirated stuff there is, just a couple games i checking out right now i have serials for everything else
#366 [12:25] <xbonesx> legit serials
#367 [12:27] <xbonesx> anyways mojang doesnt mind piracy, im sure he doesnt completely approve of it. but it was stated in quite a few articles that he liked the idea of getting his work out there, and he self assured that the majority of people who play it will buy it. hence why he lets you play it for free from the main website
#368 [12:27] * GreyVulpine coughs
#368 [12:27] <xbonesx> am i wrong?
#369 [12:28] <Hellcrasher> dude.. i am sure he doesnt either. i knwo Micrsoft does either, or Metallica, or Government...
#370 [12:28] <Hellcrasher> doesnt***
#371 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> The second part, yes. The first part, Notch did tweet that he didn't mind it as much
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#373 [12:28] <BadCraftHelp> hello?
#374 [12:28] <BadCraftHelp> I need help
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#376 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> With
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#378 [12:28] <xbonesx> told you Hellcrasher
#379 [12:28] <Hellcrasher> lol well thanks for your help Grey i need to go watch a movie now
#380 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> Take care
#381 [12:28] <BadCraftHelp> Grey
#382 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> YEs?
#383 [12:28] <BadCraftHelp> I need ur help
#384 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> BadCraftHelp - With?
#385 [12:28] <BadCraftHelp> er
#386 [12:29] <BadCraftHelp> u know MCSL
#387 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> BadCraftHelp - I do not.
#388 [12:29] <BadCraftHelp> Err
#389 [12:29] <BadCraftHelp> aw
#390 [12:29] <BadCraftHelp> Do you know who can help?
#391 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> xbonesx - Aside from from the free oudated classic version on the website, you cannot play minecraft premium without having a premium account.
#392 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> xbonesx - Unless you pirate it, of course.
#393 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> BadCraftHelp - I have no idea what MCSL is.
#394 [12:30] <BadCraftHelp> err
#395 [12:30] <BadCraftHelp> Its a Minecraft Server List
#396 [12:30] <BadCraftHelp> The premium server list
#397 [12:31] <BadCraftHelp> http://mcserverlist.net/
#398 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> There are many fan-run minecraft server lists..
#399 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#400 [12:31] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#401 [12:31] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#402 [12:31] * GreyVulpine points above
#402 [12:31] <BadCraftHelp> yeah smp servers.
#403 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> Each one of those, are run independently by the community.
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#405 [12:32] <xbonesx> I think of software like i do cars, its not piracy to test drive a car before you buy it...
#406 [12:32] <xbonesx> I appreaciate those software developers that give a demo or non-fullo version of testing
#407 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> xbonesx - It is, if you're using the car to do groceries, drive to work for a month, and return it used without having to pay a cent
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#409 [12:32] <xbonesx> true...
#410 [12:33] <xbonesx> i dont think a week is too long to ask, since ill be playing it for probably the next couple of years
#411 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> xbonesx - Let's drop the matter. Pay when you can
#412 [12:33] <xbonesx> true
#413 [12:33] <xbonesx> sorry
#414 [12:34] * GreyVulpine is just frustrated at having to deal with pirated copies of minecraft for the past year screwing up people's computers.
#414 [12:34] <xbonesx> oh and ill be buying twice lmao :p my girlfriend is addicted too lol
#415 [12:34] <xbonesx> thats the other down fall
#416 [12:34] <xbonesx> i can only imagine the amount of people who come through here with pirated copies having problems
#417 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> .... too many to count.
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#420 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> ?? snapshot
#421 [12:37] <VoxelHead> snapshot: Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w03a/minecraft.jar
#422 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> ??~ snapshot|Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w04a/minecraft.jar
#423 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> ?? snapshot
#424 [12:38] <VoxelHead> snapshot: Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w04a/minecraft.jar
#425 [12:40] <xbonesx> what are those?
#426 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> dev builds. http://mojang.com/
#427 [12:41] <Grim_Reaper> Think of them like the pre releases in beta kinda
#428 [12:43] <xbonesx> gotchya
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#438 [13:01] <Wug> silly wugbot
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#440 [13:01] <Wug> ;addalt Wug WugBot
#441 [13:01] <WugBot> Registered WugBot as alt nick of Wug.
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#443 [13:03] * Wug has to figure out which channels I was in before restarting znc
#443 [13:03] <Wug> he was*
#444 [13:03] <xales> Wug: doesn't znc save them...
#445 [13:04] <Wug> xales: I think it _can_
#446 [13:04] <Wug> but I dont think it _did_
#447 [13:04] <xales> another reason I don't use it!
#448 [13:04] <xales> :)
#449 [13:04] <Wug> feh
#450 [13:04] * Wug has a cool hostname now
#450 [13:04] <Wug> worth it
#451 [13:07] <xales> Wug: err, okay?
#452 [13:08] <xales> Wug: by the way
#453 [13:08] <xales> the initiator of a user mode change must be the user's server, IIRC
#454 [13:08] <xales> which then informs the user, and the rest of the network
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#458 [13:30] <canaillou> HI
#459 [13:31] <canaillou> there is something wrong with the lase minecraft server
#460 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> lase?
#461 [13:32] <canaillou> last
#462 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Shouldn't be
#463 [13:33] <canaillou> It'is not a real problem - but thats sucks
#464 [13:35] <canaillou> why the server.propreties ALWAYS change when the server start? the order of configs changes, and sometimes whe have the same config two times
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#466 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Don't think I've ever seen that happen. Are you modifying the server.properties in a way as to change the filename as well?
#467 [13:36] <canaillou> I edit it via "nano"
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#469 [13:38] <canaillou> So the answer is no I don't I think
#470 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> Once server.properties generates for the first time, it doesn't regenerate it again unless the file is missing
#471 [13:40] <canaillou> but If I change it maybe he don't dont find it again - that's why I got a server.propreties.back?
#472 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> That's probably why. when you're editing it via nano, you're resaving it with server.properties.back
#473 [13:40] <canaillou> fine
#474 [13:42] <canaillou> the truth is - generate the file via a php script, but the name doesn't change - maybe a non-printable char corrupt the file for the server like "\n"
#475 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> perhaps
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#477 [13:46] <Morrolan> Someone likes short nicks it seems.
#478 [13:47] <canaillou> but If I don't give the right to the server to write the file, only read and execute (555) he doesn't works - that why I thought the server write the file at any starts
#479 [13:48] <canaillou> oh sorry my mistake
#480 [13:49] <canaillou> that works
#481 [13:49] <canaillou> with 555
#482 [13:49] <canaillou> because the file is no corrupt so he realy don't need to write on it
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#485 [13:57] <cronon> hello, my minecraft lags very much when I try to play it with my graphicscard, but with my integrated graphicschip it runs without lags. I would like to use my graphicscard to play minecraft, because the integ. chip doesnt have much performance. what can i do?
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#488 [14:00] <xales> cronon: Make sure you have the latest drivers for the graphics card.
#489 [14:00] <xales> cronon: Make sure you have the latest drivers for the graphics card.
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#493 [14:08] <xbonesx> does anyone know of a daylight always plugin for bukkit servers?
#494 [14:09] <blodigabiffen> hi someone that can answer why i cant come in to my minecraft even when the have drwan the money from my bank but after that nothing has happend( havet got my premium)
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#496 [14:10] <Wug> blodigabiffen: whats your account name
#497 [14:11] <blodigabiffen> my account name is blodigabiffen
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#501 [14:12] <Wug> ;hp blodigabiffen
#502 [14:12] <WugBot> blodigabiffen has NOT paid for minecraft.
#503 [14:13] <Wug> when did you buy minecraft
#504 [14:13] <blodigabiffen> i boght the game this sunday
#505 [14:13] <Wug> check your email
#506 [14:14] <blodigabiffen> have and there is nothing
#507 [14:14] <Wug> the one you used to register your minecraft account?
#508 [14:15] <blodigabiffen> yes
#509 [14:15] <Wug> did you pay with paypal?
#510 [14:16] <blodigabiffen> no did it trough the website
#511 [14:17] <Guest58531> -.-
#512 [14:17] <Guest58531> -.-
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#514 [14:17] <Wug> yeah, but you cant just magically put money into the internet :P
#515 [14:17] <Wug> you probably paid either through paypal or moneybookers (by credit card)
#516 [14:18] <blodigabiffen> i did it trough my bank
#517 [14:18] <blodigabiffen> moneybookers!
#518 [14:18] <Wug> that would be a credit card
#519 [14:18] <Wug> try contacting moneybookers support. hold on, ill find a link
#520 [14:19] <Wug> :mb/support
#521 [14:19] <WugBot> mb/support: If you paid with a credit card (via moneybookers) and money has cleared your account but your account status has not been updated, you may need to contact MoneyBookers support.
#522 [14:19] <WugBot> mb/support: MoneyBookers support can be reached at us-service@moneybookers.com (Make sure to include as much information as possible)
#523 [14:19] <blodigabiffen> okej ty
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#526 [14:31] <canaillou> bye all my problem is solved
#527 [14:31] <canaillou> thanks for help
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#529 [14:34] <SenyorHerpyDoovz> Hio
#530 [14:34] <SenyorHerpyDoovz> I got a little problem. Block ID Conflicts with only one mod installed =\
#531 [14:35] <SenyorHerpyDoovz> http://pastebin.com/v6KBrEsc <- Error report
#532 [14:35] <Morrolan> Try to ask in #risucraft for mod-related questions. :)
#533 [14:35] <SenyorHerpyDoovz> Kk
#534 [14:35] <SenyorHerpyDoovz> Cya guys
#535 [14:35] <Morrolan> Or just in the mod's forum thread.
#536 [14:35] <Morrolan> Cya
#537 [14:35] <Morrolan> Cya
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#540 [14:35] <Grim_Reaper> Way to steal mah ??> Morrolan ;-;
#541 [14:36] <Morrolan> Heh.
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#548 [14:51] <yellowpillowware> can someone help me with getting a tree chopped?
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#550 [14:51] <yellowpillowware> i've been at it for 5 minutes
#551 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Hold down left click
#552 [14:51] <yellowpillowware> well.. ive done that for 5 minutes
#553 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Hold down left click
#554 [14:52] <yellowpillowware> thanks <3
#555 [14:52] <Boreeas> ...
#556 [14:52] <Aikar> yellowpillowware: make sure your using an axe... :P
#557 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Don't need an axe, can bash with fists
#558 [14:52] <Aikar> oh
#559 [14:52] <Boreeas> How would you get an axe in first place otherwise
#560 [14:53] <Aikar> ::shrug:: I play on an SMP server that gives you tools when you start... havent played SP
#561 [14:53] <Wug> which came first, the wood block or the axe
#562 [14:53] <Aikar> lol
#563 [14:53] <Aikar> but it makes sense now :P
#564 [14:54] <Aikar> though a wooden pickaxe doesnt seem like it would do any good to mine stone
#565 [14:55] <Wug> ikr
#566 [14:55] <Wug> oh well, gotta start somewhere
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#568 [15:01] <ArmEagle> hmm, crap. The Ladder not having a bounding box anymore actually sucks
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#570 [15:02] <ArmEagle> oh, friend just told me it will be back soon
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#579 [15:27] <Wug> _303: doesnt seem to have worked
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#589 [15:47] <MCn00b> Hey guys?
#590 [15:47] <MCn00b> I need some help with my minecraft server
#591 [15:50] <MCn00b> I can't get my friends to join my server. What am I doing wrong?
#592 [15:50] <ngc0202> Advertising
#593 [15:50] <MCn00b> No not that, he can't physically join
#594 [15:50] <TheNoodle> lol
#595 [15:51] * GreyVulpine predicts Port forwarding
#595 [15:52] <MCn00b> We try to play over hamachi but all he get is a red cross on the "diplayable connection"
#596 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> We do not provide help for servers run on Hamachi
#597 [15:53] <MCn00b> Why is that may I ask?
#598 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Hamachi adds a layer of needless complexity that has been known to bring up countless connection problems. It has also been known to be the root of a number of security and network latency issues.
#599 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Not only that, but all these can be circumvented by doing simple port forwarding, if you're on a home connection
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#601 [15:56] <MCn00b> Okay :(
#602 [15:56] <MCn00b> :)*
#603 [15:56] <Hellcrasher> hey does anyone know if i upgrade from 1.8 - 1.1 will it automatically add fortresses and such to my current saves? or will i have to go ahead and restart a new world
#604 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> I'd recommend restarting a new world.
#605 [15:57] <MCn00b> What do I have to do to not use hamachi
#606 [15:57] <MCn00b> ?
#607 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Look up port forwarding
#608 [15:58] <Hellcrasher> :( that sucks
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#610 [16:00] <MCn00b> Uhm, I'm quite the noob when it comes to computers, but does that means any costs?
#611 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> No cost.
#612 [16:01] <MCn00b> ok, is it a program?
#613 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> No. It's the process of setting up your router to direct traffic from the outside, into your home network. A person that connects to your home needs to be routed and directed to the computer in your house running the relevant server
#614 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> MCn00b - Could you tell me what operating system you're on?
#615 [16:04] <MCn00b> I'm on windows 7
#616 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> MCn00b - Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd and press enter. A black command prompt window will pop up
#617 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> MCn00b - In the black command prompt window, please put in: ipconfig
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#619 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> MCn00b - Tell me the ipv4 address and default gateway address at the top
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#621 [16:07] <MCn00b> By the way. Are you whispering me?
#622 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> I am not.
#623 [16:07] <MCn00b> ok
#624 [16:07] <MCn00b> just wonder
#625 [16:07] <MCn00b> d
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#627 [16:08] <MCn00b> uhm I have two of them
#628 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Give me the one starting with 192.168
#629 [16:08] <MCn00b> adapter?
#630 [16:08] <MCn00b> 192.168.1.2
#631 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> And the default gateway is 1.1, yes?
#632 [16:08] <MCn00b> yes
#633 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Close that. Open up a web browser. Go to http://192.168.1.1
#634 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Tell me what you see there, it'll most likely ask for a username and password
#635 [16:09] <MCn00b> It does so
#636 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Could you give me an idea of what that screen looks like. Does it mention any model number?
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#638 [16:10] <MCn00b> It says something about netgear
#639 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Great. Try "admin" for the username, and "password" for the password
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#641 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Did that work?
#642 [16:12] <MCn00b> nope "/
#643 [16:12] <MCn00b> I tried swedish as well.
#644 [16:12] <aliendoor> can i get some billing-related questions asked?
#645 [16:12] <MCn00b> if that helps
#646 [16:12] <aliendoor> answered*
#647 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> aliendoor - As we're not Mojang, we cannot answer any account or billing related questions on their behalf. Try http://help.mojang.com/
#648 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> MCn00b - Could you try admin and 1234 for the username and password respectively?
#649 [16:13] <aliendoor> well i have tried every other rescource... and there hasn't been any help. I figured i could try here...
#650 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> aliendoor - Could you tell us specifically, what question you have? Maybe we can point you in the right direction
#651 [16:15] <MCn00b> It didn't work
#652 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> MCn00b - Then the default password for the router has been changed. You'll need to talk to the person who has access to the router in your house to set up port forwarding.
#653 [16:16] <aliendoor> ok. I bought a gift code last month with paypal and didn't get a confirmation email, and the code didn't show up on my minecraft.net profile. I tried emailing various mojang support accounts, and didn't hear back.
#654 [16:16] <aliendoor> i then disputed the transaction through paypal, and did not hear back
#655 [16:17] <Wug> if you didnt get a confirmation email then payment may never have occurred
#656 [16:17] <Wug> banks stop minecraft payments a lot
#657 [16:17] <aliendoor> the money in the account is gone
#658 [16:17] <erroch> Did you get a payment confirmation email from paypal?
#659 [16:17] <aliendoor> yes
#660 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> If you're already put in a dispute through paypal, this will be something you'll need to talk to paypal for.
#661 [16:18] <MCn00b> Aliendoor?
#662 [16:18] <MCn00b> My friend had the similar problem i think
#663 [16:18] <aliendoor> the dispute timed out, and they don't allow for immediate money withdrawl
#664 [16:19] <aliendoor> did your friend fix it?
#665 [16:19] <MCn00b> He bought minecraft like a week ago and he got it "activated today"
#666 [16:20] <MCn00b> "Activated" today* (sorry)
#667 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#668 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> ^ latest support page
#669 [16:20] * Morrolan takes a mental note
#669 [16:20] <aliendoor> i just saw that! sent an emial there too about an hour ago. I dont have much hope that ill get an answer
#670 [16:21] <Morrolan> Lost hope after one hour already?
#671 [16:21] <Morrolan> Dear god, you won't get fast in life. ;)
#672 [16:21] <Morrolan> far*
#673 [16:21] <aliendoor> not at all, just after so many unheard emails
#674 [16:21] <aliendoor> :P
#675 [16:21] <Morrolan> Heh, maybe that new support site will allow them to actually keep up with the amount of support mails. *shrug*
#676 [16:21] <Morrolan> Or maybe they actually hired someone to do support. D:
#677 [16:21] * GreyVulpine coughs
#677 [16:22] <Morrolan> C'mon, one may have _some_ hope left, no?
#678 [16:22] <Morrolan> Atleast that support site looks far more professional.
#679 [16:22] <Morrolan> I mean, the old one with expanding menus was pretty silly.
#680 [16:23] <aliendoor> i'm disgustingly optimistic, and i really like mojang as a company. this is why i havnt flipped my s**t at paypal to get my money back
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#682 [16:24] <Morrolan> "How do I change the email address linked to my account?", oh, so I guess that's a solution for those guys who have to change their mail address for some reason.
#683 [16:24] <Morrolan> Though I'd hate having to sign up for that global acc solution for such a reason.
#684 [16:26] <Morrolan> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/331367-employees <- they do have an awful amount of web-guys.
#685 [16:26] <Morrolan> Wonder what they do all day.
#686 [16:27] <Morrolan> </end mockery>
#687 [16:27] <Morrolan> G'night :)
#688 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Night Morrolan|away.
#689 [16:28] <Boreeas> "Mattis Grahm - he is cute"
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#694 [16:33] <cplhaircut> can anyone see if you can connect to my server
#695 [16:33] <cplhaircut> ip: 10.0.05
#696 [16:33] <cplhaircut> 10.0.0.5
#697 [16:33] <cplhaircut> *
#698 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> That's not a public IP address
#699 [16:35] <cplhaircut> how do i get that
#700 [16:35] <cplhaircut> just dont get it
#701 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> whatismyip.com
#702 [16:36] <cplhaircut> when i go cmd and type ipconfig
#703 [16:36] <cplhaircut> my dns is : lan
#704 [16:36] <cplhaircut> any way i can change to blank
#705 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#706 [16:37] <Wug> ;ip cplhaircut
#707 [16:37] <WugBot> IP address of cplhaircut is: 83.109.33.215
#708 [16:37] <Wug> ^ public ip
#709 [16:38] <cplhaircut> Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#710 [16:39] <cplhaircut> thats what it says
#711 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Are you filing in server-ip in server.properties?
#712 [16:40] <cplhaircut> yes
#713 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't do what you think it does
#714 [16:41] <cplhaircut> but if i go cmd, and ipconfig, my ip should be listed by the ipv4 adress right
#715 [16:41] <cplhaircut> it just says 10.0.0.5
#716 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> By filling in a server-ip, you're telling the MC server to accept connections by that IP address
#717 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> For most, leaving the server-ip link blank will work
#718 [16:41] <cplhaircut> i do not, i just cant connect to that ip
#719 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> If you do ipconfig, it'll only give you your local IP address. Only people inside your house/network can connect to your server
#720 [16:45] <Wug> cplhaircut: have you cleared the server-ip line yet
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#723 [16:47] <Wug> cplhair: have you cleared the server-ip line yet
#724 [16:47] <Wug> ;ip cplhair
#725 [16:47] <WugBot> IP address of cplhair is: 83.109.33.215
#726 [16:51] <cplhair> and how do i do that
#727 [16:52] <cplhair> as told, when i go cmd, and type ipconfig, it will show the ip adress i need to use to host a minecraft server
#728 [16:52] <cplhair> but the only ip i see, is 10.0.0.5
#729 [16:52] <cplhair> and thats a lan adress
#730 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#731 [16:53] <cplhair> that can only be used on my own network
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#733 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> That's correct
#734 [16:53] <cplhair> how do i cange it from lan to public
#735 [16:53] <cplhair> change*sry
#736 [16:53] <fag> hi bitvhes
#737 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Go to 10.0.0.1 via your web browser to access your router. Port forward traffic using port 25565/TCP to 10.0.0.5
#738 [16:53] <fag> hi bitchs
#739 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> !k fag
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#742 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> cplhair - After you do so, you'll use 83.109.33.215 for people to connect to your server
#743 [16:54] <fag> how the fuck are you
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#746 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> !kb fag
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#748 [16:55] <Wug> inb4 evasion
#749 [16:55] <Wug> I should add a lookup to the clone watcher
#750 [16:56] <cplhair> cant get into 10.0.0.1
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#752 [16:56] <Wug> cplhair: didnt you say your internal address was 10.0.0.5
#753 [16:56] <cplhair> oh
#754 [16:56] <cplhair> haha;D
#755 [16:56] <Wug> ;check cplhair
#756 [16:56] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: ti0197a380-0471.bb.online.no:25565 (Timed out)
#757 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> cplhair - What do you get next to default gateway in ipconfig?
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#759 [16:57] <cplhair> 10.0.0.138
#760 [16:57] <cplhair> i should use that?
#761 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Then connect to that via your browser
#762 [16:58] <cplhair> ok
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#771 [17:14] <DJXage> hey guys im having issues updating Minecraft to 1.1 its stuck on downloading packages is there anything u guys can do to help?
#772 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> What AV do you use? AVG?
#773 [17:15] <DJXage> yes and its on the exception list
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#775 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Disable AVG's linkscanner module, then try again
#776 [17:16] <DJXage> ok give me one min
#777 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> AVG's been known around here to stymie the download of minecraft's files.
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#779 [17:18] <DJXage> ok it worked
#780 [17:19] * GreyVulpine nods
#780 [17:20] <bruterules> Hi, I've been trying to install modloader onto my minecraft. I've installed it on a fresh 1.1 jar with the META-INF deleted from it. However, it simply errors out each time. I do have the error report and will send it through, if you would like it.
#781 [17:21] <bruterules> Anyone have any ideas?
#782 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> For the most part, we don't assist with problems concerning mods. Try pasting the contents of that error report to pastebin.com, as well as the contents of the modloader.txt file
#783 [17:21] <bruterules> Ah, ok. Thank you.
#784 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> Give us the URLs of that to us please.
#785 [17:22] <bruterules> One sec.
#786 [17:23] <bruterules> http://pastebin.com/X2RNWQ7u
#787 [17:23] <DJXage> question how does 1 install texture packs?
#788 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> DJXage - What operating system are you on?
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#791 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> bruterules - Hmm. Could you paste the contents of the modloader.txt file to pastebin as well? It can be found in your .minecraft/ folder
#792 [17:24] <bruterules> Hold on, I may have just found the problem.
#793 [17:25] <bruterules> There's an outdated mod in my mincraft/mod folder
#794 [17:25] <bruterules> let my try removing that frist
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#796 [17:25] <bruterules> hehe, that fixed it
#797 [17:25] <Wug> :|
#798 [17:25] <bruterules> i feel kinda dumb right now
#799 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Heh, alright then
#800 [17:25] <bruterules> =S
#801 [17:26] <ebuzz42> How can I stop MC running out of memory?
#802 [17:26] <bruterules> Thanks for your help!
#803 [17:26] <Wug> :win/specs > ebuzz42
#804 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> ebuzz42 - What operating system are you on?
#805 [17:26] <Wug> ;search pause
#806 [17:26] <WugBot> Matches for "pause": pause/key win/info
#807 [17:26] <ebuzz42> windows 7
#808 [17:26] <Wug> :win/info > ebuzz42
#809 [17:26] <WugBot> ebuzz42: (win/info) Press the Win+pause keys. This will bring up the Windows System Information.
#810 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> ebuzz42 - 32 or 64 bit?
#811 [17:26] <ebuzz42> 64
#812 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Please download and install 64 bit java.
#813 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> :j
#814 [17:26] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#815 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> That should fix the problem.
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#817 [17:27] <ebuzz42> thanks =D
#818 [17:27] <DJXage> nvr mind got it
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#825 [17:59] <sudormrf> Hey all.. how can I add my own art into my own minecraft server? (wall hanging art)
#826 [18:00] <sudormrf> I know how to do it for a single player game... but not on my server.
#827 [18:02] <xales> I don't think it's possible
#828 [18:02] <xales> without requiring every client to use some sort of mod
#829 [18:02] <sudormrf> Ahh... okay..
#830 [18:03] <sudormrf> What about hosting a second server on the same machine?
#831 [18:03] <xales> just use a different port number
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#857 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> !weather hell
#858 [18:15] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan (6:10p Jan 26 12) temp(34.0 F / 1.1 C, feels like 34 F / 1 C) cond(Light Drizzle) wind(North at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(95%) dewpnt(33 F / 0 C) bp(29.72 in / 1006.3 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Overcast (OVC) : 400 ft / 121 m) vis(2.0 miles / 3.2 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#859 [18:15] <GreyBot> Tonight: A chance of light rain and snow in the evening...then a chance of light snow after midnight. Cloudy. Lows 27 to 31. Light and variable winds...becoming northwest 5 to 15 mph after midnight. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.
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#863 [18:31] <Dave> Hello
#864 [18:32] <Guest10002> I have been running a minecraft server at home for my son and his friends. Out of the blue Avast antivirus tags Minecraft_server.exe as malware
#865 [18:33] <Wug> tell it no
#866 [18:33] <Wug> maybe also redownload it if it suddenly randomly started doing this
#867 [18:33] <Guest10002> It catched the fresh download as well
#868 [18:34] <Wug> add an exception to avast then
#869 [18:34] <Guest10002> I plan on it
#870 [18:34] <Guest10002> just wondering if anyone else had an issue like this
#871 [18:34] <Wug> we see lots of issues like it
#872 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> AVs flagging Minecraft as a false positive isn't a new thing around here
#873 [18:35] <Guest10002> Thats what I wanted to hear
#874 [18:35] * Wug glances upward
#874 [18:35] <Wug> hell appears to be freezing over, again
#875 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> It is
#876 [18:36] <Wug> I spose thats a good thing, taking the future into consideration
#877 [18:36] <Wug> though personally, I prefer warmth
#878 [18:36] <Guest10002> Thanx for your help Wug and Grey
#879 [18:36] <Wug> np
#880 [18:36] <Guest10002> I just wanted to be sure before I created an exception
#881 [18:37] <Wug> yeah, it happens a lot
#882 [18:37] <Wug> avast is supposedly a common offender
#883 [18:37] <Wug> we also see lots of avira and kaspersky
#884 [18:37] <Wug> oh, and mcafee
#885 [18:37] <Wug> those ones pick it up a lot
#886 [18:38] <Guest10002> I submited a report to Avast with notes telling them what it is and what it should not be flagged
#887 [18:38] <Guest10002> I suspect it will take more than one person though
#888 [18:39] <Guest10002> anywhore...... thanx for the help again....l8r
#889 [18:39] <Guest10002> anywhore...... thanx for the help again....l8r
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#895 [18:50] <yellowduck> hello, I am having the java runtime environment error, any suggestions?
#896 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Got an error report?
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#903 [19:09] <windz> hi guys, i am looking for some one to help me with my server issues.
#904 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> What issues?
#905 [19:11] <windz> well its like this, i have been using the server for a long time and since 1.8-current i have been haveing the same issue
#906 [19:11] <windz> i run the server on my com
#907 [19:11] <windz> and me and my friends keep geting this error msg
#908 [19:12] <windz> minecraft connection lost internal exception java.net.socketexception read timed out
#909 [19:12] <windz> then i open the server window and try and type well anything really in the cmd bar
#910 [19:13] <windz> and it will let me type, but wont do anything, like it froze
#911 [19:14] <windz> i have tried all sorts of things, tried useing the .jar file, alocateing more ram, re installing everything
#912 [19:14] <windz> got any ideas?
#913 [19:14] <su> OS?
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#915 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> Server modded? Unmoddied? What firewall or security software is on your computer?
#916 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> bleh, unmodded*
#917 [19:17] <su> windz: hello?
#918 [19:18] <Wug> I believe it may be an issue with the world
#919 [19:19] <su> Wug: yes or it could be 187 other things :P
#920 [19:19] <windz> server is vanilla no mods, windows firewall.
#921 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> read timed out could be anything from network issues stemming from security software to connection issues (hamachi's been known to do this), as well as world corruption and mods of all sorts
#922 [19:19] <windz> and we have restarted with new worlds so many times thinking that
#923 [19:19] <Wug> if its an unmodified server on a properly configured network and its getting read timed out, its probably something wrong with the world
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#925 [19:19] <windz> i have made new worlds all the time
#926 [19:19] <Wug> windz: I was going to ask you to do that but I guess it hasnt helped
#927 [19:19] <su> or the network latency is WAY too high
#928 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> windz - This on a home connection?
#929 [19:20] <Wug> also, are you hosting it on windows?
#930 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Also, does it affect all users or..?
#931 [19:20] <windz> tried hamachi too, same issue
#932 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> I believe user profile corruption can affect this as well
#933 [19:21] <Wug> windz: is the server running now
#934 [19:21] <Wug> trying to run* :P
#935 [19:22] <windz> ya, it just froze so i told my friend to try and he got in and now its running. would hosting and joining from the same computer make a diffrence?
#936 [19:22] <su> yes
#937 [19:22] <windz> its wierd i have been useing the server for s long time, and the issues only really started around the 1.8 update
#938 [19:22] <windz> ya its up
#939 [19:22] <Wug> playing from the same computer should be fine
#940 [19:22] <Wug> ;check windz
#941 [19:22] <WugBot> c-174-61-234-107.hsd1.wa.comcast.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: A Minecraft Server (0/20)
#942 [19:22] <Wug> are you running windows?
#943 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Is it just you having the timed out issue?
#944 [19:23] <windz> yes, windows.
#945 [19:23] <windz> no, outhers have the issue too
#946 [19:23] <Wug> does it seem to crash, and then have problems again until it is restarted?
#947 [19:23] <Wug> or does it seem to go away if you leave it alone for a while
#948 [19:23] <Wug> without restarting, I mean
#949 [19:25] <windz> what ya mean?
#950 [19:25] <Wug> when it has problems, will they go away if left alone, or do you have to restart to fix it
#951 [19:25] <windz> if it hase issues it boots us all form the server, then i try and close it but no matter how much i try and X out of it it just stays frozen
#952 [19:26] <windz> have been having to end its process
#953 [19:26] <windz> restart it
#954 [19:26] <Wug> anything in the error log aside from timing out?
#955 [19:26] <windz> even then that does not fix it most of the time
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#957 [19:27] <Wug> if its locking up hard like that it might mean you have a hardware issue
#958 [19:28] <Wug> it could still be several other things
#959 [19:28] <windz> what kind of hardware issue
#960 [19:28] <Wug> could be a java problem, have you tried updating java?
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#962 [19:28] <Wug> could maybe be a ram issue
#963 [19:28] <xales> Wug: my first suspect would be firewall/antivirus
#964 [19:29] <xales> killing the socket somehow
#965 [19:29] <windz> the part that really annoys me is it worked for a long time no issues before this started happening
#966 [19:29] <xales> Wug: and bad java
#967 [19:29] <windz> i have reinstalled jave a few times
#968 [19:29] <Wug> xales: I dealt with a bad ram issue a few weeks ago
#969 [19:29] <windz> tried installiung 64 bit too
#970 [19:29] <windz> installing*
#971 [19:29] <windz> what ya mean bad ram?
#972 [19:29] <Wug> programs (particularly minecraft, which uses a lot of ram) were locking up or closing without warning
#973 [19:30] <windz> minecraft itself runs fine.
#974 [19:30] <windz> its just the server that has issues
#975 [19:30] <Wug> do you have a 32 bit computer
#976 [19:30] <Wug> and you never answered my question about the log, is there anything in it apart from timeouts
#977 [19:32] <windz> ahh sorry, no i have a 64 bit. its a desktop. and where can i see that
#978 [19:32] <windz> in the server log?
#979 [19:36] <Wug> yeah
#980 [19:36] <Wug> you might as well just pastebin the whole thing
#981 [19:36] <Wug> also, do you have 64 bit java
#982 [19:36] <windz> if so no, well it alwasy gives me the [warning] cant keep up did the time and date change
#983 [19:37] <windz> i dont think so i think i removed it when it didnt help at all
#984 [19:37] <Wug> well, it might help :P
#985 [19:37] <Wug> if you're having memory issues of a software sort (which minecraft very much does have)
#986 [19:38] <Wug> then 64 bit java may help
#987 [19:38] <Wug> try removing all of the java installtions you have
#988 [19:38] <Wug> :j
#989 [19:38] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#990 [19:38] <Wug> 64 bit java is the last in the list, uninstall the others before installing that one
#991 [19:39] <windz> wouldnt i see that with minecraft too thought not just the server
#992 [19:39] <windz> because minecraft runs fine.
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#994 [19:40] <Wug> server tends to be more intensive than the client
#995 [19:40] <Wug> especially for multiplayer play (on the client) because the client isnt doing any of the work, the server is
#996 [19:40] <Wug> and send me that log file
#997 [19:41] <windz> ok give me a sec
#998 [19:42] <windz> ok... i cant now it froze and wont let me do anything tio it
#999 [19:42] <windz> i got a snap of it though, how do i make a link?
#1000 [19:42] <Wug> open the log file
#1001 [19:42] <Wug> its called server.log
#1002 [19:43] <Wug> pastebin it
#1003 [19:45] <windz> http://mibpaste.com/NWYq3l
#1004 [19:45] <windz> try that
#1005 [19:47] <Wug> is that the whole log or just part of it
#1006 [19:48] <windz> thats the whole log
#1007 [19:48] <windz> i have ra made the server so many times
#1008 [19:48] <Wug> the error messages dont seem to show up in it. can you pipe the output to a file
#1009 [19:48] <windz> umm do what? haha sorry
#1010 [19:49] <Wug> follow the instructions on minecraft.net to launch the server on linux
#1011 [19:49] <Wug> they work on windows too
#1012 [19:50] <Wug> except, use this command instead of the command they use, use instead: java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui > file.txt
#1013 [19:51] <windz> i have used the .jart too i will give it a shot again though
#1014 [19:51] <Wug> use the command I just said to launch it from the command line
#1015 [19:52] <Wug> actually, add this to the end: 2> file2.txt
#1016 [19:52] <Wug> it should read: java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui > file.txt 2> file2.txt
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#1018 [19:54] <windz> ok so i download the .jar
#1019 [19:54] <windz> put it in a folder
#1020 [19:54] <windz> make a text doc
#1021 [19:54] <windz> open it, paste, "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui > file.txt 2> file2.txt"
#1022 [19:54] <Wug> no quotes, right?
#1023 [19:54] <windz> save as, allfiles, "run.bat"
#1024 [19:54] <windz> ya
#1025 [19:55] <Wug> then run it
#1026 [19:55] <windz> then run it right
#1027 [19:55] <Wug> server should start
#1028 [19:55] <windz> damnit
#1029 [19:55] <windz> ok here
#1030 [19:55] <windz> it gives me 2 text docs
#1031 [19:55] <windz> first is empty
#1032 [19:55] <windz> 2nd says
#1033 [19:55] <Wug> second has stuff in it, yeah
#1034 [19:55] <windz> 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
#1035 [19:55] <windz> no server
#1036 [19:56] <Wug> ok, you need to use the full path of java
#1037 [19:56] <windz> dos just opens for a half sec and closes
#1038 [19:56] <windz> how do i do that
#1039 [19:56] <Wug> its probably "c:\program files (x86)\java\jre6\bin\java.exe"
#1040 [19:56] <Wug> with quotes
#1041 [19:57] <Wug> or you could reinstall java which will make you able to call it with just "java"
#1042 [19:58] <windz> ok
#1043 [19:58] <Wug> server should be running now?
#1044 [19:58] <windz> so i can put my mine at rest on that issue
#1045 [19:59] <windz> best way to reinstall java?
#1046 [19:59] <windz> also what do i do with "c:\program files (x86)\java\jre6\bin\java.exe"
#1047 [19:59] <windz> sorry
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#1050 [20:00] <Wug> uhh. remove all of the installations you have
#1051 [20:01] <Wug> look in add/remove programs in the control panel
#1052 [20:02] <windz> now just reinstall the recomended ver from the website?
#1053 [20:03] <windz> or should i look for 64 bit?
#1054 [20:06] <Wug> grab the 64 bit one from this list
#1055 [20:06] <Wug> :j
#1056 [20:06] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
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#1058 [20:09] <windz> ok
#1059 [20:09] <windz> done
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#1062 [20:12] <windz> nod try ""java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui > file.txt 2> file2.txt"?
#1063 [20:12] <windz> now try*
#1064 [20:15] <windz> ok cool that works
#1065 [20:15] <windz> wi will give that a try
#1066 [20:16] <windz> thanks
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#1074 [21:14] <yellowduck> How do I fix the Java Runtime Environment error?
#1075 [21:15] <Wug> have you asked already
#1076 [21:15] <yellowduck> no, but I asked yesterday, I went afk
#1077 [21:16] <Wug> did we tell you anything then
#1078 [21:16] <yellowduck> i wasn't on, my computer went into hibernate
#1079 [21:17] <Wug> well theres your problem, you asked and immediately left
#1080 [21:17] <Wug> I'm being sarcastic
#1081 [21:17] <Wug> but you did ask, and I did answer then
#1082 [21:17] <Wug> and I get this feeling that you missed it
#1083 [21:17] <yellowduck> I still need it answered, please
#1084 [21:17] <Wug> try reinstalling
#1085 [21:17] <Wug> java, not minecraft
#1086 [21:18] <yellowduck> i did, followed the directions perfectly
#1087 [21:18] <Wug> give me more details
#1088 [21:19] <yellowduck> i used the built-in uninstaller to uninstall java, downloaded the standard offline installer, ran it, deleted minecraft.exe, installed it again
#1089 [21:20] <Wug> details about the error? when/how does it occur
#1090 [21:20] <yellowduck> whenever I run minecraft.exe
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#1092 [21:21] <Wug> before logging in? before anything at all? how do you see the error? is it a file? a message box? a minecraft crash screen?
#1093 [21:22] <yellowduck> "This registry refers to a nonexistent Java Runtime Environment installation or the runtime is corrupt" (error message)
#1094 [21:22] <Wug> :tv
#1095 [21:22] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1096 [21:22] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1097 [21:23] <yellowduck> so, download this and run it?
#1098 [21:24] <Wug> yep
#1099 [21:24] <yellowduck> ok....gimme a second
#1100 [21:24] <Wug> serious damage to java installations is generally not something people can solve on their own
#1101 [21:24] <Wug> and its usually dangerous to have them try
#1102 [21:24] <Wug> therefore, remote assistance.
#1103 [21:24] <Wug> I'm grabbing a drink, brb
#1104 [21:25] <yellowduck> well, dammit! java needs better coders
#1105 [21:26] <andrewxios> download revo and wipe java off your hdd
#1106 [21:27] <yellowduck> I did that, reinstalled java, and I still got the same error message
#1107 [21:27] <Wug> follow the teamviewer instructions
#1108 [21:27] <Wug> I've fixed this a few times before
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#1110 [21:28] <yellowduck> yea, just waiting for the page to load, my internet is slow
#1111 [21:28] <yellowduck> downloading
#1112 [21:28] <Wug> that should make using teamviewer ... interesting
#1113 [21:29] <yellowduck> why/
#1114 [21:29] <yellowduck> *?
#1115 [21:29] <Wug> teamviewer streams video
#1116 [21:29] <yellowduck> oh
#1117 [21:29] <Wug> might help to lower your screen resolution before I connect
#1118 [21:30] <Wug> though I can probably do it from my end
#1119 [21:30] <yellowduck> wait, why does it stream vidoe?
#1120 [21:30] <yellowduck> *video
#1121 [21:30] <Wug> so I can see what I'm doing :P
#1122 [21:32] <yellowduck> I, I don't understand...but, ok
#1123 [21:32] <Wug> Teamviewer is remote access software
#1124 [21:32] <yellowduck> do I have to download? because it'a not woking
#1125 [21:32] <Wug> its .. not working?
#1126 [21:33] <yellowduck> the download isn't
#1127 [21:33] <Wug> you're downloading from http://www.teamviewer.com/download/TeamViewer_Setup_en.exe
#1128 [21:33] <Wug> right?
#1129 [21:34] <yellowduck> HOLD ON JUST A SECOND! you're going to edit stuff on my computer?
#1130 [21:34] <clarjon1> yellowduck: with you watching.
#1131 [21:34] <Wug> yes, didnt you read the message
#1132 [21:34] <clarjon1> yellowduck: and you able to stop it at any time
#1133 [21:34] <yellowduck> ok, that makes me feel better
#1134 [21:34] <Wug> lol
#1135 [21:35] <yellowduck> well, what if you were just trolling me the whole time just to put a virus in my computer
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#1138 [21:35] <Wug> I wouldnt have a magic @
#1139 [21:36] <Wug> I caution however
#1140 [21:36] <Wug> just because you can stop the connection doesnt mean you should
#1141 [21:36] <Wug> the reason I'm doing this is because I'm probably going to have to do things that should only be done by an experienced user
#1142 [21:36] <yellowduck> can I like ask you what you are doing through the thing?
#1143 [21:37] <Wug> I'll be checking the registry and the hard drive for remnants of old java installations and purging them
#1144 [21:37] <clarjon1> yellowduck: yes, there is a instant messenger feature built into teamviewer
#1145 [21:38] <Wug> If I tried to guide you through doing this yourself, you could potentially cause serious damage to the computer
#1146 [21:38] <yellowduck> I used regedit to remove everything
#1147 [21:38] <yellowduck> that had java
#1148 [21:38] <Wug> ugh, dont ever do that
#1149 [21:38] <Wug> if you hadnt, it wouldnt be acting up like this
#1150 [21:38] <yellowduck> why? I did it AFTER. and only in one folder
#1151 [21:39] <Wug> uninstall programs properly unless absolutely impossible
#1152 [21:39] <yellowduck> yes, when I tried to uninstall a certain file, it gave me an error message
#1153 [21:39] <Wug> error messages can be fixed
#1154 [21:40] <yellowduck> the download isn't loading whatsoever
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#1156 [21:40] <Wug> going through and messing with the registry is not a good idea unless you really know what you;re doing
#1157 [21:40] <Wug> try disabling your antivirus
#1158 [21:40] <yellowduck> I used a step by step tutorial
#1159 [21:40] <Wug> I dont know why it would stop teamviewer
#1160 [21:41] <yellowduck> no, it just says loading
#1161 [21:41] <Wug> what does, teamviewer?
#1162 [21:41] <yellowduck> yes
#1163 [21:41] <Wug> as in, you have it downloaded and it isnt working?
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#1165 [21:41] <yellowduck> the tab
#1166 [21:41] <yellowduck> no, the page
#1167 [21:41] <Wug> did you try the direct link I sent
#1168 [21:41] <yellowduck> yes
#1169 [21:42] <yellowduck> that's what says loading
#1170 [21:43] <Wug> try from http://wug.me/TeamViewer_Setup_en.exe
#1171 [21:43] <yellowduck> "wug.me" lol
#1172 [21:44] <Wug> if youre concerned about me tampering with it or something, its digitally signed
#1173 [21:44] <Wug> which would make tampering evident
#1174 [21:44] <yellowduck> ok, the estimated time just steadily increases
#1175 [21:44] <Wug> you tried disabling your antivirus?
#1176 [21:44] <yellowduck> i only have windows firewall
#1177 [21:45] <Wug> do you have winrar
#1178 [21:45] <yellowduck> nope
#1179 [21:45] <yellowduck> i have 7zip, tho
#1180 [21:46] <Wug> http://wug.me/TeamViewer_Setup_en.zip
#1181 [21:46] <Wug> try that
#1182 [21:46] <yellowduck> same
#1183 [21:46] <yellowduck> it's just my internet
#1184 [21:47] <Wug> can you try a different browser
#1185 [21:47] <yellowduck> i think
#1186 [21:47] <Wug> is it actually downloading or is it failing
#1187 [21:47] <clarjon1> yellowduck: what kind of net connection do you have
#1188 [21:47] <yellowduck> i have satilite (don't know how to spell
#1189 [21:47] <yellowduck> )
#1190 [21:48] <Wug> are you using a laptop
#1191 [21:48] <yellowduck> no
#1192 [21:48] <Wug> ugh
#1193 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> satellite internet?
#1194 [21:48] <yellowduck> wired connection to a PC
#1195 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> Yikes
#1196 [21:48] <Wug> you need to get teamviewer downloaded somehow
#1197 [21:49] <yellowduck> yea, but i live out of town so...
#1198 [21:49] <yellowduck> and it's slowed becaus I went over the bandwidth
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#1200 [21:50] <yellowduck> so, I might just have to wait until February
#1201 [21:50] <Wug> I cant help until you get teamviewer
#1202 [21:50] <Wug> and I highly recommend that you not try anything else until someone can look at it
#1203 [21:51] <Wug> if you take it to a repair shop or something, they can probably do it
#1204 [21:51] <yellowduck> I have a brother who knows quite a bit about it
#1205 [21:51] <Wug> I know I can, and I can do it for free, but I need you to have teamviewer
#1206 [21:52] <yellowduck> I'll get it, as soon as my isp gives my internet freedom agasin
#1207 [21:52] <yellowduck> *again
#1208 [21:52] <yellowduck> but that won't be until 4 days or so
#1209 [21:52] <Wug> youre quite sure it isnt downloading at all?
#1210 [21:53] <yellowduck> yes
#1211 [21:54] <yellowduck> "*click* 5 mins left, 7 mins left, 10 mins left, 16 mins left......."
#1212 [21:54] <Wug> does it show that any data is coming at all
#1213 [21:54] <Wug> like any number of KB downlaoded
#1214 [21:55] <yellowduck> yea, a tinsy tiny bit, 0.2 MB, not changing
#1215 [21:56] <Wug> try from here, and follow the instructions http://wug.me/teamviewer.html
#1216 [21:56] <Wug> you must save it as a .zip
#1217 [21:57] <yellowduck> uuuuuuugh! no, my internet is extemely slow, that's all there is
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#1219 [21:58] <Wug> I guess you should try again come february
#1220 [21:59] <yellowduck> yes! exactly what i think
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#1222 [22:00] <yellowduck> so, when my internet comes back to life, I'll come here and mention your name
#1223 [22:01] <Wug> k
#1224 [22:01] <yellowduck> trust me, this will be alot easier when my internet gets better
#1225 [22:03] <yellowduck> so, I'll see you later, I'm going to go play my 360 to pass the time until then
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#1233 [22:29] <xbonesx> I keep getting a java flush buffer error coming up in my server console?
#1234 [22:29] <Wug> bluebren: go to #risucraft
#1235 [22:29] <Wug> this channel doesnt help with mods
#1236 [22:29] <bluebren> oh okay
#1237 [22:29] <bluebren> oh okay
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#1239 [22:30] <Wug> xbonesx: some errors are normal. can you pastebin this one so I can look at it
#1240 [22:31] <xbonesx> when another one happens i will, i reset the server... hasn't happened in the past 5 minutes
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#1242 [22:59] <Nemesis_Factor> Hey there, trying to set up a LAN server but having no luck getting another client to connect
#1243 [22:59] <Nemesis_Factor> When the server is running I can connect via loopback and local IP, but no other LAN clients can connect via IP
#1244 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Did you fill in server-ip in server.properties?
#1245 [23:02] <Nemesis_Factor> Yes, but other clients got the same symptoms
#1246 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Yes, that would be why.
#1247 [23:02] <Nemesis_Factor> and for me, loopback stopped working
#1248 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> by filling in server-ip, you told the server to only accept connections from that ip address
#1249 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Remove the ip so that the server-ip line is blank.
#1250 [23:03] <Nemesis_Factor> It is currently
#1251 [23:03] <Wug> they need to make it so that line doesnt even generate in the default config
#1252 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> They're in the same network, yes?
#1253 [23:04] <Nemesis_Factor> yes
#1254 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> What ip are they using to connect?
#1255 [23:04] <Nemesis_Factor> 192.168.1.4
#1256 [23:04] <Nemesis_Factor> my local
#1257 [23:04] <Wug> that is your local ip, right?
#1258 [23:04] <Nemesis_Factor> yup
#1259 [23:04] <Wug> you're sure? <.<
#1260 [23:04] <Nemesis_Factor> positive
#1261 [23:04] <Wug> you checked right now?
#1262 [23:04] <Nemesis_Factor> I have checked twice now
#1263 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Then, firewall?
#1264 [23:05] <Wug> ^
#1265 [23:05] <Wug> idk why we didnt ask about this first
#1266 [23:05] <Nemesis_Factor> I disabled my Windows FW with no luck
#1267 [23:05] <Wug> probably because firewalls will usually allow connections from local ips
#1268 [23:05] <Wug> you're 100% that theyre not just derping and entering the wrong ip or something?
#1269 [23:05] <Nemesis_Factor> And I assume it has nothing to do with the router's firewall as those usually don't impede local traffic
#1270 [23:05] <Wug> you're not using hamachi are you?
#1271 [23:05] <Nemesis_Factor> Nope
#1272 [23:06] <Nemesis_Factor> I went upstairs and tried the connection myself
#1273 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> What security software do you run besides windows firewall?
#1274 [23:06] <Nemesis_Factor> This was working two months ago
#1275 [23:06] <Nemesis_Factor> Nothing, not even AV
#1276 [23:06] <Nemesis_Factor> on either machine
#1277 [23:06] <Wug> what error message are you getting on the other machines
#1278 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Running on the default port? You haven't changed port in server.properties, yes?
#1279 [23:06] <Nemesis_Factor> correct, 25565
#1280 [23:07] <xbonesx> Wug: it only seemed to do it when someone from tunngle was connected, my girl and i aren't having the problem at all
#1281 [23:07] <Nemesis_Factor> I'll get the error, one minute
#1282 [23:07] <Wug> xbonesx: does it appear in the server log?
#1283 [23:07] <xbonesx> anyone know how to enable the recipe book mod on a server, my server to be exact?
#1284 [23:07] <xbonesx> Wug: hasn't yet
#1285 [23:07] <xbonesx> Wug: but i dont have anyone from tunngle connected just my girl on local net
#1286 [23:08] <Nemesis_Factor> So it attempts to connect for a good 30 seconds but ends with "
#1287 [23:08] <Wug> xbonesx: we dont normally help with mods
#1288 [23:08] <Nemesis_Factor> not that, one sec
#1289 [23:08] <Wug> see also, if you're jha
#1290 [23:08] <Nemesis_Factor> Failed to connect to server
#1291 [23:08] <Wug> .. having issues on a server with mods, it could be the fault of the mods
#1292 [23:09] <Nemesis_Factor> Connection timed out: connect
#1293 [23:09] <xbonesx> Wug: oh ok...
#1294 [23:09] <xbonesx> Wug: no problem
#1295 [23:09] <Wug> xbonesx: does it work with a vanilla server
#1296 [23:09] <Wug> I spose you cant check because its working for you now :P
#1297 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Nemesis_Factor - Can you paste the contents of the server.properties file to pastebin.com? Give us the URL? Also, server.log?
#1298 [23:10] <Wug> Nemesis_Factor: maybe also the output of ipconfig?
#1299 [23:10] <xbonesx> Wug: oh i also went into java properties and set jre6 to work rather than jre7, maybe that was the java issue. i also have this in the para. box for jre6 -Xincgc -Xmx2048M
#1300 [23:11] <Wug> xbonesx: none of that should cause a crash as far as I know
#1301 [23:11] <xbonesx> ok
#1302 [23:11] <Wug> is this bukkit you're using? you might try asking in #bukkit
#1303 [23:11] <Nemesis_Factor> http://pastebin.com/FthrgCxa
#1304 [23:12] <Wug> Nemesis_Factor: their connection attempts are not reaching the server at all
#1305 [23:12] <Nemesis_Factor> http://pastebin.com/ve0GeAbu
#1306 [23:12] <Wug> you're sure theyre not on like the neighbors wireless or something
#1307 [23:13] <Nemesis_Factor> yup
#1308 [23:14] <Nemesis_Factor> Maybe that virtual Box adapter?
#1309 [23:14] <Wug> can they connect to any servers?
#1310 [23:14] <Nemesis_Factor> Could the server be broadcasting on that or something?
#1311 [23:14] <Wug> you could try disabling it, but the server should be listening on all adapters
#1312 [23:19] <Nemesis_Factor> hmm
#1313 [23:19] <Nemesis_Factor> hmm
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#1315 [23:19] <Nemesis_Factor> just tried to have him connect to a url server I KNOW works
#1316 [23:19] <Nemesis_Factor> let me go see if he can't connect to anything
#1317 [23:24] <Nemesis_Factor> Thanks guys!
#1318 [23:24] <Nemesis_Factor> Couldn't connect o public servers, so I deleted his app data and tried the in-browser
#1319 [23:24] <Nemesis_Factor> worked right off the bat
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#1321 [23:36] <Wug> lol
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#1323 [23:37] <awesomeman> I recently aquired a desktop and put Ubuntu on it. When I downloaded the minecraft.jar file, I get the error message "e
#1324 [23:37] <awesomeman> The file '/home/brandon/Downloads/minecraft.jar' is not marked as executable. If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run. For more details, read about the executable bit." What do I do?
#1325 [23:40] <Wug> awesomeman: try right clicking and opening with java
#1326 [23:40] <Wug> jar files are not standalone executable
#1327 [23:40] <Wug> if it still does not work, pull up a terminal, cd to Downloads, and use "chmod +x minecraft.jar"
#1328 [23:41] <Wug> then try again. you might have to install java if you havent already. you can do that with "sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre"
#1329 [23:42] <DopeGhoti> Wug: your second guess was right
#1330 [23:42] <DopeGhoti> chmod +x will allow right-click-to-run to work.
#1331 [23:43] <Wug> I know the error was an executable bit one, but I'm not sure he was trying to launch it correctly
#1332 [23:44] <Wug> I'm not sure java checks the executable bit
#1333 [23:44] <Wug> I know wine does, but no clue about java. I've never had issues running jars that I just downloaded and didnt bother setting the x it
#1334 [23:44] <Wug> bit*
#1335 [23:45] * GreyVulpine pffts and never has that problem, always runs things as root, and chmods 777 everything
#1335 [23:46] <Wug> D:
#1336 [23:46] <Wug> dont you use windows 7
#1337 [23:48] <Wug> GreyVulpine: do you also store all of your passwords for your computer and every web service you have registered for in a file on your desktop called passwords.txt
#1338 [23:48] <Wug> along with usernames, sorted alphabetically by site?
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