#1 [00:02] <DopeGhoti> Wug: it's not Java checking the x-bit; it's Nautilus, actually (:
#2 [00:02] <DopeGhoti> you can still `java -jar minecraft.jar` just fine, so long as the r-bit is set (:
#3 [00:06] <Wug> GreyVulpine: chmod -R 6777 /*
#4 [00:07] <Wug> -R is recursive (I think) and 6777 gives global r/w/e and turns on the setuid and setgid bits
#5 [00:07] <Wug> ie, basically everything has root all the timke
#6 [00:07] <Wug> you'd have difficulty NOT having root if you did that, without chmodding them back
#7 [00:10] <Wug> protip: the setuid bit was invented by dennis ritchie
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#12 [00:31] <Aymak> I haz a quick question.
#13 [00:31] <Aymak> Hopefully someone will haz a quick answer?
#14 [00:32] <lemon-rev> whas up
#15 [00:33] <Aymak> I just reformatted my PC, running windows XP.
#16 [00:33] <lemon-rev> ok ?
#17 [00:33] <Aymak> I updated Java, installed .NET Framework, and got everything ready for MC
#18 [00:33] <lemon-rev> but ?
#19 [00:33] <Aymak> But, when I run MC with MyCraft, everything runs Okay, MC opens, I can play
#20 [00:34] <Aymak> But when I try to fly, I can't move.
#21 [00:34] <Aymak> That's not my MAIN issue though. When I open my Launcher, I get a messed up screen...
#22 [00:34] <Aymak> It
#23 [00:34] <Aymak> 's
#24 [00:34] <lemon-rev> aymak your running mods we cant help i cant help, we can only help you if your running standered mc :( so i dont know why that would be
#25 [00:35] <Aymak> -.-
#26 [00:35] <Aymak> Alright, rewind then
#27 [00:35] <Aymak> When I open my Launcher, regardless of where I open it from or how I open it
#28 [00:35] <lemon-rev> its messed up
#29 [00:35] <lemon-rev> ok try forceing update
#30 [00:36] <Aymak> I have =p
#31 [00:37] <Aymak> It's blowing my mind, because I'm decently smart with PC's
#32 [00:37] <Aymak> And like I said, I just reformatted
#33 [00:37] <Aymak> So I feel like I've forgotten to download something/
#34 [00:37] <lemon-rev> hm
#35 [00:37] <lemon-rev> aymak what does it do if you force update ?
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#37 [01:03] * |Kiikun|Janus| still wonders why people think updating flash, .net, and other webtechs would help with minecraft <.<
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#38 [01:14] <mib_rn9966> Anyone here?
#39 [01:14] <mib_rn9966> I keep getting Fatal Error (4):Null
#40 [01:14] <mib_rn9966> What is the problem?
#41 [01:16] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_rn9966: whats the full error message?
#42 [01:17] <Scott> |Kiikun|Janus|: because they are stupid and tech illiterate.
#43 [01:18] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Scott: i was actually thinking someone somwhwere was putting it out a a sugested fix..
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#45 [01:19] <mib_rn9966> That is Fatal Error Occured (4): Null
#46 [01:20] <mib_rn9966> |Kiikun|Janus| thats all the error is
#47 [01:20] <mib_rn9966> Fatal Error Occured (4): Null
#48 [01:20] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_rn9966: theres more than 'null'. screenshot it please and paste it up on imgur.com
#49 [01:21] <mib_rn9966> Failed to Launch
#50 [01:21] <mib_rn9966> Fatal Error Occured (4): Null
#51 [01:21] <mib_rn9966> I am looking at it right now
#52 [01:22] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> mib_rn9966 forceupdate
#53 [01:22] <VoxelHead> mib_rn9966: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#54 [01:22] <VoxelHead> mib_rn9966: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#55 [01:23] <mib_rn9966> Nope same thing.
#56 [01:23] <mib_rn9966> Failed to Launch
#57 [01:23] <mib_rn9966> Fatal Error Occured (4): Null
#58 [01:26] <mib_rn9966> VoxelHead?
#59 [01:26] <mib_rn9966> Any ideas?
#60 [01:27] * |Kiikun|Janus| is half asleep and cant tell whats wrong... os is googling
#60 [01:28] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_rn9966: is this durring the downloading of stuff that its sayding this?
#61 [01:28] <mib_rn9966> I have Grooveshark running in the background
#62 [01:28] <mib_rn9966> would this affect it?
#63 [01:29] * |Kiikun|Janus| shrugs
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#64 [01:30] <mib_rn9966> Nope didn't fix it
#65 [01:30] <Tiagobr6> hey
#66 [01:30] <Tiagobr6> grey?
#67 [01:30] <Tiagobr6> any helpers online?
#68 [01:30] <Tiagobr6> hey almost
#69 [01:30] <Tiagobr6> ?
#70 [01:30] <Tiagobr6> i need help
#71 [01:31] <mib_rn9966> What's the problem?
#72 [01:31] <Tiagobr6> ?
#73 [01:31] <Tiagobr6> 1 sec
#74 [01:31] <Tiagobr6> pasting at pastebin
#75 [01:32] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_rn9966: you using avira?
#76 [01:32] <mib_rn9966> Kaspersky
#77 [01:32] <Tiagobr6> www.pastebin.com
#78 [01:32] <Tiagobr6> HELP
#79 [01:32] <Tiagobr6> PLEASE
#80 [01:32] <Tiagobr6> http://pastebin.com/qAp2QTkH
#81 [01:33] <mib_rn9966> Are you using mods Tiag?
#82 [01:33] <Tiagobr6> muted why?
#83 [01:33] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> Tiagobr6 forceupdate
#84 [01:33] <Tiagobr6> yes iam
#85 [01:33] <VoxelHead> Tiagobr6: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#86 [01:33] <VoxelHead> Tiagobr6: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#87 [01:33] <mib_rn9966> Thats your problem
#88 [01:34] <Tiagobr6> why i cant use mods?
#89 [01:34] <mib_rn9966> They sometimes are incompatible with minecraft
#90 [01:34] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ?? mods
#91 [01:34] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#92 [01:34] <VoxelHead> mods: as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#93 [01:34] <Tiagobr6> well anyone know my problem?
#94 [01:35] <mib_rn9966> |Kiikun|Janus| I am using Kaspersky Internet security 2012
#95 [01:35] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_rn9966: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, OS/2 Warp, or GLaDOS?
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#97 [01:36] <mib_rn9966> XP
#98 [01:36] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> mib_rn9966 win/dxdiag
#99 [01:36] <VoxelHead> mib_rn9966: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#100 [01:36] <VoxelHead> mib_rn9966: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#101 [01:39] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_rn9966: also, what version of java do you have installed? you can check here: http://javatester.org/version.html
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#103 [01:43] <mib_rn9966> 1.6_30 JRE
#104 [01:43] <mib_rn9966> I would have just -version in cmd prompt.
#105 [01:44] <mib_rn9966> 1.6.0_30-b12
#106 [01:45] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ok...
#107 [01:45] <mib_rn9966> java -version
#108 [01:45] <mib_rn9966> if you want to check javas version
#109 [01:46] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_rn9966: you know how to access the .minecraft folder?
#110 [01:46] <mib_rn9966> http://pastebin.com/Gdji09bX
#111 [01:46] <mib_rn9966> Yes
#112 [01:46] <mib_rn9966> 1 Folder
#113 [01:46] <mib_rn9966> Bin
#114 [01:46] <mib_rn9966> and last login
#115 [01:46] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_rn9966: ok go there and delete everything except the saves folder
#116 [01:47] <mib_rn9966> I already wipped minecraft I was doing a texture pack reinstall
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#118 [01:48] <DopeGhoti> Texture packs don't need installing
#119 [01:48] <DopeGhoti> you just put the .ZIP file into the .minecraft\texturepacks directory, and that's all there is to it.
#120 [01:48] <Santorum> Billy Mayes here with Chimpout Forum!
#121 [01:48] <Santorum> Are you sick of negros but can't join the kkk because you aren't white?
#122 [01:48] <Santorum> Are you still looking for a negro bashing organization that accepts jews, gays, mexicans, chinese, etc?
#123 [01:48] * WugBot kicked Santorum from #minecrafthelp (Reason: antorum :Kicked by |Kiikun|Janus|) (spam/adv)
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#125 [01:49] <mib_rn9966> DopeGhoti I do a full minecraft folder wipe
#126 [01:49] <mib_rn9966> everytime I install a texture pack
#127 [01:49] <mib_rn9966> because MCpatcher likes to bug up
#128 [01:49] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_rn9966: id you only had the bin... then its obvious the downloads arnt finishing. av/firewall issue. try disablign them and trying again
#129 [01:52] <mib_rn9966> I just tried moving minecraft and java to the trusted part of the AV
#130 [01:53] <mib_rn9966> still nothing
#131 [01:53] <mib_rn9966> same error
#132 [01:53] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_rn9966: also theres a slightly newer version of the raedon drivers... but that shouldnt matter (11/2011 vs 1/2012)
#133 [01:53] <mib_rn9966> Hmmmm
#134 [01:53] * mib_rn9966 tries updating
#134 [01:53] <|Kiikun|Janus|> making it trusted doesnt always work. thats why we sugest temporary disable just to confirm
#135 [01:54] <mib_rn9966> ok
#136 [01:54] * mib_rn9966 sets AV pausing to 5 minutes
#136 [01:58] * |Kiikun|Janus| goes back to bed
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#139 [02:09] <mib_0h13zx> |Kiikun|Janus| thank you the problem was the AV
#140 [02:09] <mib_0h13zx> Fair-well
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#142 [02:13] <huddler> |Kiikun|Janus|?
#143 [02:13] <|Kiikun|Janus|> elo... sorry.. im going to bed
#144 [02:14] <DopeGhoti> Sleep is overrated.
#145 [02:14] <huddler> Anyone know why my character
#146 [02:14] <huddler> in minecraft is black and has a cape?
#147 [02:14] <huddler> But no one else does?
#148 [02:14] <|Kiikun|Janus|> huddler: 1: did you go to minecon?
#149 [02:15] <DopeGhoti> ??> 2 do/,
#150 [02:15] <VoxelHead> 2: (do/,) The Enter key is not a comma. Please don't flood the channel with many many lines of just two or three words each. Learn how to use complete sentences, and commas.
#151 [02:15] <huddler> |Kiikun|Janus| no
#152 [02:16] <huddler> DopeGhoti I resent that I, avoid using full sentences because I am stuck in the habit of minecrafts, compartively small chatbox limit.
#153 [02:17] <DopeGhoti> Don't be resentful of your past experiences; be adaptable to new environments.
#154 [02:17] <huddler> DopeGhoti also; if you want full syntactic organisation I can be quite happy to obiligue, also I dislike arrogant people.
#155 [02:18] <huddler> strange how arrogance is an extremely non-esoteric
#156 [02:18] * |Kiikun|Janus| thnks the skin/cape are a random bug and will prob ably go away when restarting minecraft.
#156 [02:18] <DopeGhoti> It's not a question of aarogance, it's a question of decorum and appropriate behavior for IRC.
#157 [02:18] <DopeGhoti> (or of arrogance, for that matter)
#158 [02:18] <huddler> Restarted minecraft repeatedly, same result.
#159 [02:19] <DopeGhoti> If your character persists in having a cape, count yourself lucky, for not many have them.
#160 [02:19] <huddler> DopeGhoti archiac words, I already presume you are arrogant.
#161 [02:19] <huddler> It's just a cape...
#162 [02:19] <huddler> :S
#163 [02:19] <huddler> Also the character is black all over.
#164 [02:20] <DopeGhoti> Prithee, whither of my lexicon findst thou to be anachronistic of comtemporary discourse?
#165 [02:20] <huddler> I'm not impressed.
#166 [02:23] <huddler> DopeGhoti lets make this as least annoying as possible
#167 [02:23] <huddler> I want this black character/cape gone I don't like it.
#168 [02:23] <Iridium> i got a redstone question
#169 [02:24] <Iridium> i want this detector rail to go on and stay on when it recieves a pulse
#170 [02:24] <huddler> NOR latch
#171 [02:24] <Iridium> ty
#172 [02:24] <huddler> It's a memory unit unless you want conditional execution
#173 [02:24] <huddler> depend on whether an input is 0 or 1
#174 [02:24] <huddler> or other components are then I say a NOR
#175 [02:25] <huddler> Iridium what are you making by the way?
#176 [02:26] <Iridium> it's a dam, my mate wants it minecart operated for some reason
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#178 [02:26] <huddler> Tried a systematic cascade effect?
#179 [02:26] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Iridium: you can also loop a repeater if you want to PERMINENTLY enable on first cart
#180 [02:26] <huddler> Not an effective memory circuit
#181 [02:26] <Iridium> nah i want it to turn off when the cart comes back
#182 [02:26] <huddler> I actually made a traditional monstable flipflip
#183 [02:26] <DopeGhoti> huddler: you could try uploading a new skin and seeing of that fixes the problem for you
#184 [02:26] <huddler> flipflop*
#185 [02:27] <DopeGhoti> you can get the default skin from the Profile page, IIRC, at www.minecraft.net
#186 [02:27] <|Kiikun|Janus|> t flipflop easy :P
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#189 [02:29] <huddler> Nope
#190 [02:29] <huddler> That did not work
#191 [02:30] <huddler> Still black
#192 [02:30] <huddler> still have a cape
#193 [02:31] <huddler> Iridium?
#194 [02:31] <huddler> What are you making with redstone?
#195 [02:32] <huddler> Oh sorry -_-
#196 [02:32] <huddler> A damn
#197 [02:32] <huddler> damn*
#198 [02:32] <DopeGhoti> ...
#199 [02:32] <Iridium> dam* :P
#200 [02:32] <huddler> My sound does not work either...
#201 [02:33] <DopeGhoti> have you any mods or texture packs installed?
#202 [02:33] <huddler> Mcpatcher thats all
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#208 [02:54] <libraryaddict> ?debug
#209 [02:54] <libraryaddict> Dammit. Whats the help thingy to show how to debug
#210 [02:55] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ?? debug
#211 [02:55] <libraryaddict> ??debug
#212 [02:55] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ?? index
#213 [02:55] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#214 [02:55] <libraryaddict> ??bugreport
#215 [02:55] <libraryaddict> ?bugreport
#216 [02:55] <libraryaddict> ?? bugreport
#217 [02:55] <VoxelHead> bugreport: See the channel topic for the official Mojang bug submission site.
#218 [02:56] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ... lol
#219 [02:56] <|Kiikun|Janus|> you want the jar or the bat?
#220 [02:57] <libraryaddict> ?? win/client/moreram
#221 [02:57] <VoxelHead> win/client/moreram: If you need to launch minecraft with more ram than the defaults, download this script to the location of minecraft.exe and run it. Java must be in your path for this to work.
#222 [02:57] <VoxelHead> win/client/moreram: Windows Launch Script: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MoreRAMMCLauncher.bat
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#224 [02:59] <magictj> hey can anyone help me build in minecraft?
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#226 [03:01] <mib_12exv1> where can i download a server client from?
#227 [03:02] <mib_12exv1> hello?
#228 [03:03] <libraryaddict> server client?
#229 [03:03] <libraryaddict> Ok
#230 [03:03] <libraryaddict> Your loss
#231 [03:04] <magictj> can anyone help me?
#232 [03:04] <WugBot> magictj: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
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#234 [03:04] <mib_vg7vd2> hey
#235 [03:04] <mib_vg7vd2> anyone here
#236 [03:04] <libraryaddict> magictj whats your problem?
#237 [03:04] <|Kiikun|Janus|> !server
#238 [03:04] <mib_vg7vd2> where do i download a server client?
#239 [03:04] <libraryaddict> From that
#240 [03:05] <mib_vg7vd2> it didnt work
#241 [03:05] <mib_vg7vd2> it says
#242 [03:05] <mib_vg7vd2> users/brad/downloads/minecraft_server(1).exe could not be saved, because an unknown error occurred
#243 [03:06] <mib_vg7vd2> try saving to a different location
#244 [03:06] <libraryaddict> Hmm
#245 [03:06] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_vg7vd2: do what it says.,, try saving to a different location... or use a differnt browser to download
#246 [03:06] <libraryaddict> ^
#247 [03:06] <mib_vg7vd2> :O i'm using mozilla firefox
#248 [03:07] <mib_vg7vd2> how do i save to a location
#249 [03:07] <mib_vg7vd2> i only have download now
#250 [03:08] <mib_vg7vd2> i used internet explorer
#251 [03:08] <mib_vg7vd2> now it says
#252 [03:09] <mib_vg7vd2> minecraft_server.exe might have been moved or deleted.
#253 [03:10] <|Kiikun|Janus|> you sandboxing your browsers? or is av screaming?
#254 [03:10] <mib_vg7vd2> huh?
#255 [03:11] <|Kiikun|Janus|> your av or firewll might be brocking the download since both firefox and ie are derping out
#256 [03:11] <mib_vg7vd2> :O
#257 [03:11] <|Kiikun|Janus|> blocking.... i need to go to sleep x.x
#258 [03:11] <mib_vg7vd2> how do i close my firewall
#259 [03:14] <mib_vg7vd2> anyone?
#260 [03:15] <mib_vg7vd2> please help me someone
#261 [03:17] <mib_vg7vd2> !server
#262 [03:19] <mib_vg7vd2> !server
#263 [03:19] <mib_vg7vd2> hello?
#264 [03:20] <mib_vg7vd2> noone helping me :(
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#267 [03:44] <dylanbarberdude> !check fleximorph.minecraftarchitecture.com
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#273 [04:13] <amunak> asd
#274 [04:13] <amunak> hello
#275 [04:13] <amunak> hello
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#280 [05:01] <Bladebane> Hey there. For some reason my download of Minecraft won't work anymore. Whenever I try to launch it, attempting to log in will make it say "Cannot connect to minecraft.net", and it will now let me play offline as it says "Not Downloaded" underneath where the play offline button should be. Can anyone help me, please?
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#282 [05:02] <rev-lemon> Bladebane check %appdata%/.minecraft folder
#283 [05:02] <rev-lemon> Bladebane check %appdata%/.minecraft folder
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#285 [05:03] <rev-lemon> also minecraft.net could be down unless you can log into the site
#286 [05:03] <Bladebane> There's nothing there. All my saves are gone for some reason, all the data, everything is just gone? And I can still log into the site, the entire Minecraft folder is just empty.
#287 [05:04] <rev-lemon> hm,
#288 [05:04] <rev-lemon> Bladebane can you attempt to login to the site minecraft.net and click on in broswer and see what happens
#289 [05:07] <Bladebane> It almost crashed my browser window and nothing's loaded except the site. Everything in the background, all the links and stuff loaded, but there's no Minecraft loading.
#290 [05:07] <rev-lemon> double check your java yea
#291 [05:11] <Bladebane> My java is up to the current version.
#292 [05:11] <Bladebane> This is odd,
#293 [05:12] <rev-lemon> completely
#294 [05:12] <rev-lemon> when was the last time it was running
#295 [05:12] <Bladebane> Yesterday
#296 [05:12] <Bladebane> I was playing it fine then
#297 [05:12] <rev-lemon> ok so whats happend since then ?
#298 [05:13] <Bladebane> Nothing at all. I haven't had any complications with my computer or anything. I just tried to launch it today, it had me set as logged out and now I can't connect back in.
#299 [05:14] <rev-lemon> well if the files from your directory have gone then somethings happend to your pc over that time frame,
#300 [05:14] <rev-lemon> but i dont know what you can do if your java is up todate what broswer where you testing it out on ?
#301 [05:15] <Bladebane> I'm running a Mac computer and I'm using Safari. I thought something might have happened to my directory files, but I spent 2 hours and restored everything; it still doesn't work.
#302 [05:16] <rev-lemon> Bladebane i dont know anything about macs sorry dude, but you can wait for somone to help you eveuallty sorry
#303 [05:17] <Bladebane> That's fine mate, thanks for trying to help though.
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#305 [05:22] <Bladebane> "Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.Launcher"
#306 [05:22] <Bladebane> I'm getting this now, does anyone know what that means?
#307 [05:25] <rev-lemon> hm
#308 [05:26] <rev-lemon> sounds like java is now having trouble but you said it was up to date i hopesomeone can help you soon
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#311 [05:50] <xbonesx> is it just me or when there is more than one mob in an area try to jump they tweak out?
#312 [05:50] <xbonesx> like the collisions are all wrong...
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#326 [06:58] <Skizu> Ye hi, minecraft fails and causes lag on my pc to the extent my mouse no longer moves
#327 [06:59] <Skizu> Can anyone help?
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#335 [08:14] <Frymaster> what's the name of that script that changes the spawn point in order to force land to be generated?
#336 [08:18] <xales> Frymaster: You can change the spawnpoint using MCEdit, not sure if there is one that lets you change it specifically to force terrain generation
#337 [08:19] <Frymaster> xales: found a java thing on github for it, but I'm sure there's a python version somewhere
#338 [08:19] <Frymaster> basically edits spawnpoint in level.dat, starts the server, does save-all, stops the server, repeats
#339 [08:20] <Frymaster> possibly even from the mcedit guy, actually
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#341 [08:23] <Halicarnassus> join #bread
#342 [08:23] <Halicarnassus> damn.
#343 [08:23] <xales> Frymaster: I'm not aware of one, but it would probably be fairly simple to do using one of the NBT editor libraries
#344 [08:23] <xales> Frymaster: I'm not aware of one, but it would probably be fairly simple to do using one of the NBT editor libraries
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#347 [08:30] <clarjon1> HaltingState: I like #toast.
#348 [08:30] <xales> fail.
#349 [08:30] <clarjon1> yup
#350 [08:30] <clarjon1> lol
#351 [08:39] <Frymaster> xales: I was thinking of this: https://gist.github.com/854679/640ca074d158c197941aab70767e29d975b6bc9b
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#367 [10:17] <djbeatfire> hello
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#380 [11:04] <Dylan> Hey guys
#381 [11:05] <Dylan> How many of you guys have gone to MineCon?
#382 [11:05] <Dylan> I'm doing a tally
#383 [11:05] <Dylan> (I'm very bored...)
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#385 [11:06] <Dylan> Hello?
#386 [11:07] <Dylan> il brb
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#389 [11:09] <Dylan> back
#390 [11:13] <Dylan> guys look at this lag:
#391 [11:13] <Dylan> !check mc.gazamo.com
#392 [11:13] <Dylan> ^^^
#393 [11:14] <Dylan> woah even worse then
#394 [11:14] <Dylan> last time
#395 [11:16] <Dylan> um
#396 [11:17] <Dylan> !paid AuBot
#397 [11:17] <Dylan> ...
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#399 [11:20] <Dylan> Can anyone in australia help me in about 5-10 minutes?
#400 [11:21] <Dylan> All you have to do is connect to my home server via thr name server im setting up
#401 [11:21] <Dylan> (my
#402 [11:21] <gPad2002> Why do you need someone in AUS? :P
#403 [11:21] <Dylan> im in aus
#404 [11:21] <Dylan> less lag
#405 [11:21] <gPad2002> Your logic is.. Illogical
#406 [11:22] <gPad2002> So?
#407 [11:22] <gPad2002> :P
#408 [11:22] <Dylan> i guess it doesnt matter
#409 [11:22] <gPad2002> I'm not on a PC, but still
#410 [11:22] <Dylan> lol
#411 [11:22] <gPad2002> lol
#412 [11:22] <Dylan> iphone?
#413 [11:22] <Dylan> Mac?
#414 [11:22] <gPad2002> iPad
#415 [11:22] <Dylan> DS
#416 [11:22] <gPad2002> Lol ds
#417 [11:22] <Dylan> Nintendo DS Lite is what im on...
#418 [11:22] <gPad2002> Do you have ANY IDEA how hard it is to type on one of those?
#419 [11:23] <gPad2002> Oh lol
#420 [11:23] <Dylan> yep
#421 [11:23] <Dylan> a bit slow
#422 [11:23] <gPad2002> Just a bit
#423 [11:23] <gPad2002> XD
#424 [11:23] <Dylan> but i can type pretty fast now
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#426 [11:23] <Dylan> ping
#427 [11:23] <Dylan> a
#428 [11:23] <Dylan> ding
#429 [11:23] <gPad2002> Silly bot
#430 [11:24] <Dylan> ...
#431 [11:24] <gPad2002> Keeps doing that to me
#432 [11:24] <Dylan> So...
#433 [11:24] <gPad2002> Cause I type with lots of new lines
#434 [11:24] <Dylan> lol
#435 [11:24] <gPad2002> lol
#436 [11:24] <gPad2002> As you can see
#437 [11:24] <gPad2002> :
#438 [11:24] <gPad2002> :P
#439 [11:25] <gPad2002> I have voice, though
#440 [11:25] <Dylan> lol
#441 [11:25] <Dylan> what is q?
#442 [11:25] * gPad2002 slaps VoxelHead around a bit with Pinkie Pie
#442 [11:25] <gPad2002> It's quiet mode
#443 [11:25] <gPad2002> Aka mute
#444 [11:25] <Dylan> aka broken mute
#445 [11:25] <gPad2002> :P
#446 [11:25] <gPad2002> It can't mute me
#447 [11:25] <Dylan> :D
#448 [11:26] <gPad2002> It muted you earlier though lol
#449 [11:26] <Dylan> idea
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#455 [11:37] <Tiagobr6> www.pastebin.com
#456 [11:38] <Tiagobr6> http://pastebin.com/NWeDb52N <-------- Help here
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#458 [11:39] <Tiagobr6> i need help any helper online ?
#459 [11:40] <Dylan> yeah
#460 [11:40] <Tiagobr6> http://pastebin.com/NWeDb52N
#461 [11:40] <gPad2002> Well that's pretty self-explanatory
#462 [11:40] <Dylan> We do not help with mods
#463 [11:40] <gPad2002> Not enough RAM
#464 [11:41] <Tiagobr6> dude
#465 [11:41] <Tiagobr6> i have 2 gb of ram
#466 [11:41] <gPad2002> That's not a mod
#467 [11:41] <Tiagobr6> how its not enough?
#468 [11:41] <gPad2002> And yeah that's the bare minimum
#469 [11:41] <Tiagobr6> thats not a mod , son
#470 [11:41] <Dylan> i cant see the link
#471 [11:41] <Tiagobr6> cant
#472 [11:41] <Tiagobr6> ?
#473 [11:41] <Tiagobr6> http://pastebin.com/NWeDb52N
#474 [11:41] <Dylan> and dont call me son
#475 [11:42] <gPad2002> It's a bunch of out of memory errors, Dylan
#476 [11:42] <Tiagobr6> soz dylan
#477 [11:42] <Dylan> try this
#478 [11:42] <gPad2002> Tiagobr6: he's on a DS
#479 [11:42] <Dylan> GET MOAR RAM
#480 [11:42] <Dylan> fixed
#481 [11:42] <AureliusM> Tiagobr6: 2 GB should be enough, but you may need to use a batch command to limit Java heap size to 256 MB.
#482 [11:42] <Dylan> yep
#483 [11:42] <gPad2002> This ^
#484 [11:42] <Tiagobr6> how?
#485 [11:42] <Dylan> 512mb id bare minimun
#486 [11:43] <Tiagobr6> teach me
#487 [11:43] <Dylan> ok
#488 [11:43] <AureliusM> Tiagobr6: http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2 <--
#489 [11:43] <Tiagobr6> dude iam running out of memory since 2011 , i bought 2 pents of memory and this problem didnt fix !
#490 [11:44] <Tiagobr6> iam tired of buying memory
#491 [11:44] <Tiagobr6> :(
#492 [11:44] <Dylan> Go to shop>look for ram>pick up ram>buy ram>go home>install ram
#493 [11:44] <Dylan> problem fixed
#494 [11:44] <Dylan> rofl
#495 [11:44] <AureliusM> Tiagobr6: I used Minecraft with 2 GB on Vista, so 2 GB is not the cause here. Might also be graphics driver though
#496 [11:44] <Dylan> yeah
#497 [11:44] <Tiagobr6> you mean video card?
#498 [11:44] <AureliusM> Tiagobr6: Windows ?
#499 [11:44] <Tiagobr6> xp
#500 [11:45] <clarjon1> could be the amount of RAM on the gfx card
#501 [11:45] <AureliusM> ??> Tiagobr6 win/dxdiag
#502 [11:45] <VoxelHead> Tiagobr6: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#503 [11:45] <Dylan> omg n00b
#504 [11:45] <VoxelHead> Tiagobr6: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#505 [11:45] <Dylan> bye
#506 [11:45] <AureliusM> Tiagobr6: Follow those VoxelHead instructions so we can see the details
#507 [11:45] <Tiagobr6> ok
#508 [11:45] <Dylan> if i return il be dylanbarberdude
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#511 [11:46] <clarjon1> that name is familiar to me for some reason.
#512 [11:46] <gPad2002> What, [L]?
#513 [11:46] <[L]> Hm?
#514 [11:47] <gPad2002> You might know him as Slizard or Lg_Legacy
#515 [11:47] <[L]> I'm always in here
#516 [11:47] <gPad2002> Sorry for the ping :P
#517 [11:47] <gPad2002> Btw
#518 [11:47] <gPad2002> Didn't know you were a brony too :D
#519 [11:48] <Tiagobr6> dylan how iam noob?
#520 [11:48] <Tiagobr6> ?
#521 [11:48] <[L]> Never said so.
#522 [11:48] <Tiagobr6> i think xp is the best one to run games, i tryed all versions
#523 [11:48] <Tiagobr6> i had mac , windows seven
#524 [11:48] <Tiagobr6> vista
#525 [11:48] <Tiagobr6> but this one rules
#526 [11:48] <Tiagobr6> idk why
#527 [11:48] <gPad2002> You're in there though. Lol
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#529 [11:48] <Tiagobr6> i can run crysis 2 faster on xp than vista
#530 [11:49] <Tiagobr6> do you believe?
#531 [11:49] <priba> hello,can someone tell me how to conect to hamachi server?
#532 [11:49] <gPad2002> Nope
#533 [11:49] <gPad2002> We cannot support hamachi.
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#535 [11:49] <gPad2002> ?? Fubar/hamachi
#536 [11:49] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#537 [11:49] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#538 [11:50] <priba> oh :/ ok
#539 [11:50] <RufoH> Hello, i have a problem http://pastebin.com/5AF54YFv
#540 [11:50] <Wug> RufoH: you either need more ram or to use a smaller Xmx argument
#541 [11:50] <gPad2002> Not enough memory
#542 [11:51] <Tiagobr6> done , SYSTEM verification http://pastebin.com/q8dMxjif
#543 [11:51] <AureliusM> Tiagobr6: Reading up I see you said you used mods. High definition texture packs can demand a lot more memory from your system, and that could also be the cause. Do a clean minecarft reinstall and see if the problem still occurs.
#544 [11:51] <RufoH> Oh, thanks.
#545 [11:52] <Tiagobr6> i know but i like hd texture packs how much memory i need to run then soft ?
#546 [11:52] <Tiagobr6> 2 gb isnt enough?
#547 [11:52] <Wug> Tiagobr6: they depend on your graphical memory, of which you have 512MB
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#549 [11:52] <Tiagobr6> D:
#550 [11:53] <Tiagobr6> only 512 mb?
#551 [11:53] <Tiagobr6> how can i expend my graphical memory?
#552 [11:53] <Wug> thats what your dxdiag says
#553 [11:54] <Tiagobr6> dangit , should i buy more memory then?
#554 [11:54] <gPad2002> You'd need a new graphics card
#555 [11:54] <Wug> you could buy a new graphics card
#556 [11:54] <Wug> graphical memory is built into the card and cannot be replaced
#557 [11:54] <Tiagobr6> 2 gb is enough ? a graphic card?
#558 [11:54] <AureliusM> Wug: where do you se 512 I saw 1024 display memory?
#559 [11:55] <Wug> mm, you're rug\\ight
#560 [11:55] <Wug> right*
#561 [11:55] <Wug> .. why do you have a 7.5GB page file
#562 [11:55] <gPad2002> How the
#563 [11:55] <gPad2002> How did you make that typo?
#564 [11:55] <Tiagobr6> i want run my game soft with hd pack , how many gb i need?
#565 [11:55] <Wug> gPad2002: \ and backspace are next to each other? :P
#566 [11:56] <gPad2002> Wut!
#567 [11:56] <Tiagobr6> 7,5 gb page file?
#568 [11:56] <gPad2002> My \ is at the bottom left
#569 [11:56] <Tiagobr6> D:
#570 [11:56] <Wug> gPad2002: did you buy your keyboard in like 1996 or something :P
#571 [11:56] <Tiagobr6> i will do greyvulpine metod do it works?
#572 [11:56] <gPad2002> I don't live in the US I gues
#573 [11:56] <gPad2002> Guess*
#574 [11:56] <Wug> gPad2002: could be that
#575 [11:56] <gPad2002> No, I bought it a month ago lol
#576 [11:57] <gPad2002> It's a G19
#577 [11:57] <Tiagobr6> i have 2 gb of ram how much it is in binary numbers?
#578 [11:57] <Wug> Tiagobr6: try removing the HD texture packs
#579 [11:57] <Tiagobr6> wug i know but cant you help me to run it softer with hd texture pack?
#580 [11:57] <gPad2002> Tiagobr6: 8*1024*1024*1024 bits
#581 [11:57] <gPad2002> *2
#582 [11:57] <Tiagobr6> 1024 mb?
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#584 [11:58] <gPad2002> That's 2GB in bits
#585 [11:58] <gPad2002> Or rather, how many binary digits you'd need
#586 [11:58] <Tiagobr6> i will do greyvulpine method lets see if that works pastebin.com/q8dMxjif
#587 [11:58] <Tiagobr6> gpad , but what do i put in the bar?
#588 [11:59] <gPad2002> Bar?
#589 [11:59] <Tiagobr6> -Xmx8*1024*1024?
#590 [11:59] <Tiagobr6> ye , to alocate more memory
#591 [11:59] <Tiagobr6> greyvulpine gave me this link
#592 [11:59] <Tiagobr6> pastebin.com/q8dMxjif
#593 [11:59] * Wug facepalms
#593 [11:59] <Wug> use 256M
#594 [11:59] <Tiagobr6> 256 m ?
#595 [11:59] <Tiagobr6> ok
#596 [12:00] <Wug> follow the instructions exactly as written
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#598 [12:01] <Jambe> So I have a friend that contacted daniel @ mojang because he can't recover his MC password since he left his original ISP whose email he used to register the account.
#599 [12:02] <Wug> Jambe: why isnt he here then
#600 [12:02] <Jambe> Because he doesn't use IRC. Am I disallowed from advocating for a friend?
#601 [12:02] <Jambe> Daniel apparently told him to contact somebody else at Mojang since he was no longer handling customer service and it's been like, several weeks since he emailed THAT person.
#602 [12:02] <gPad2002> Took them at least a month for them to reply to me last
#603 [12:03] <gPad2002> Try http://help.mojang.com
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#605 [12:04] <Jambe> Thanks, gpad. More helpful than the op here.
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#607 [12:05] <Wug> Jambe: I dont think its that unreasonable to ask not to help by proxy
#608 [12:05] <Jambe> Oh for god's sake, if I wanted to take extra time to help this person get set up on IRC just to ask a question I can ask -myself- in ten seconds, I would've.
#609 [12:05] <Jambe> Alas, I value my time.
#610 [12:06] <Wug> does it reallu take more than 10 seconds to send a person a link to http://webchat.esper.net/?channels=#minecrafthelp
#611 [12:07] <Jambe> Does it really make a difference? gPad provided a useful link I can pass along.
#612 [12:07] <Wug> Then I guess you're set, huh
#613 [12:07] <gPad2002> Jambe
#614 [12:07] <gPad2002> It's much easier for us to provide direct support
#615 [12:08] <Jambe> Yes, yes, I realize that. I'm just not in any mood to be condescended to for asking a simple, straightforward question. Long freakin' day.
#616 [12:08] <Wug> I value my time too. Most problems of a technical nature take significantly longer if instructions are being relayed
#617 [12:08] <gPad2002> Guys
#618 [12:08] <gPad2002> Chill
#619 [12:08] <Tiagobr6> thanks so much guys
#620 [12:08] <Tiagobr6> :D
#621 [12:09] <Wug> Tiagobr6: np
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#624 [12:11] <djbeatfire> moin
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#626 [12:14] <Wug> Jambe: sorry if I came across as rude. We are all volunteers and we don't really like to waste time either.
#627 [12:15] <Wug> Nobody here works for mojang, and we cant really help with account issues like this. I personally find it irritating if people get irritable with us for not being able to help them with those issues directly.
#628 [12:15] <Wug> So I apologize.
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#631 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> Wug: learn to !topic :p
#632 [12:46] <Wug> :~
#633 [12:46] <Wug> thbbt
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#637 [12:56] <DopeGhoti> !topic /3/We are not affiliated with Mojang; f/F/
#638 [12:56] * gPad2002 has no idea what that did
#638 [12:56] <Wug> compare to topic previous
#639 [12:57] <gPad2002> Oh right
#640 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> gPad2002: s/foo/bar/ only rather than s, use topic segment.
#641 [13:03] <gPad2002> Hmm
#642 [13:03] <gPad2002> I don't use Vi
#643 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> It's not vi-specific (:
#644 [13:04] <gPad2002> Hmm, well, how does it work? :P
#645 [13:04] <gPad2002> I guess you could say I take some inspirations from Vox :P
#646 [13:04] <DopeGhoti> regular expressions
#647 [13:04] <xales> irregular expressions are far more fun
#648 [13:04] <gPad2002> Ahh, I see how it works
#649 [13:04] <gPad2002> Yeah, I don't like regex
#650 [13:05] <gPad2002> Mostly because I suck at it
#651 [13:05] <xales> gPad2002: regex is awesome, but not for what most people use it for
#652 [13:05] <gPad2002> Heh
#653 [13:05] <xales> things like parsing a file which has a nonchanging format?
#654 [13:05] <gPad2002> It's not like I don't use it
#655 [13:05] <xales> a regex is a *bad* idea.
#656 [13:05] <gPad2002> I use it in my bot to parse out HTML tags
#657 [13:05] <gPad2002> To remove the head and such
#658 [13:05] <xales> that's a bad thing to use it for, if it only ever parses html
#659 [13:06] <xales> well, not bad persay
#660 [13:06] <xales> but, not what it's meant for
#661 [13:06] <gPad2002> It does but the page isn't ever the same :P
#662 [13:06] <gPad2002> Yeah but it does the job
#663 [13:06] <xales> but the format is the same
#664 [13:06] <gPad2002> Isn't that the point?
#665 [13:06] <xales> regexes are useful when the regex itself is what needs to change
#666 [13:06] <DopeGhoti> xales: wait what?
#667 [13:06] <gPad2002> ...
#668 [13:06] <gPad2002> That.. What?
#669 [13:06] <xales> DopeGhoti: one minute
#670 [13:06] <gPad2002> My brain is full of f*ck
#671 [13:06] <DopeGhoti> "parsing a file which has a nonchanging format" is exactly what regexes are for
#672 [13:07] <DopeGhoti> s/file/text input/
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#674 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> the one thing that is better than regular expresisons, is extended regular expressions. (:
#675 [13:08] <techtwa> i cannot connect to multiplayer servers after login to client
#676 [13:08] <techtwa> t
#677 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> techtwa: what happens when you try?
#678 [13:09] <xales> DopeGhoti: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HxaD_trXwRE#t=555s
#679 [13:09] <techtwa> instead of the green bars it is x's
#680 [13:09] <techtwa> cant reach server
#681 [13:10] <DopeGhoti> the server(s) may be down.
#682 [13:10] <techtwa> no i dont think vaultcraft is down
#683 [13:10] <gPad2002> What's the IP?
#684 [13:10] <DopeGhoti> xales: "Tend to require learning a new language".. but learning Go doesn't require learning Go?
#685 [13:10] <gPad2002> Lol
#686 [13:11] <gPad2002> That made me lol irl
#687 [13:11] <xales> DopeGhoti: It's assuming that you are writing the application in Go
#688 [13:11] <DopeGhoti> ...
#689 [13:11] <gPad2002> Does anyone even use Go?
#690 [13:11] <techtwa> play.vaultcraft.com
#691 [13:11] <gPad2002> Seems like a waste of effort
#692 [13:11] <xales> DopeGhoti: Talking about methods of lexical scanning is not limited to Go
#693 [13:11] <gPad2002> !check play.vaultcraft.co
#694 [13:11] <gPad2002> Gag
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#696 [13:11] <DopeGhoti> Well, yes, if you're using Go already, then of course it makes sense to use Go.
#697 [13:11] <gPad2002> Failed, methinks
#698 [13:12] <xales> DopeGhoti: The "new language" it's talking about is the tool's language, *not* Go
#699 [13:12] <gPad2002> !check play.vaultcraft.com
#700 [13:12] <gPad2002> techtwa: it's down
#701 [13:12] <DopeGhoti> And if I'm using .py already, I'll use Python. But if I'm using "Apache config file", I'll use regex.
#702 [13:12] <techtwa> hmmm
#703 [13:12] <gPad2002> Try this:
#704 [13:12] <gPad2002> archivesmc.com:25590
#705 [13:12] <gPad2002> Try that ^ techtwa
#706 [13:12] <techtwa> how about 86.22.5.146
#707 [13:12] <xales> DopeGhoti: It's not talking about the language in which you implement a scanner, but the method of doing so.
#708 [13:13] <gPad2002> !check 86.22.5.146
#709 [13:13] <gPad2002> Brb dinner
#710 [13:13] <DopeGhoti> xales: I don't know that I have an hour to watch the entire talk at work, but I'll bookmark for later.
#711 [13:13] <xales> DopeGhoti: it ends at around 12:20, the part about regular expressions, but it's an interesting talk
#712 [13:14] <techtwa> gPad was archivesms.com a server to try to join
#713 [13:14] <gPad2002> Yeah
#714 [13:14] <techtwa> didnt work
#715 [13:14] <gPad2002> archivesmc.com:25590
#716 [13:14] <gPad2002> I know it's up
#717 [13:15] <techtwa> nothing
#718 [13:15] <xales> Are you sure you entered it correctly?
#719 [13:15] <techtwa> 3rd time trying
#720 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> !check archivesmc.com:25590
#721 [13:16] <AureliusM> !check 71.170.169.172
#722 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> well, that explains that.
#723 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> !check home.dope.ghoti.me
#724 [13:17] <techtwa> that one didnt even work for me
#725 [13:17] <AureliusM> !check mctest.dyndns.tv
#726 [13:18] <AureliusM> !check vwxyz.homeftp.net
#727 [13:19] <techtwa> that one worked
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#729 [13:20] <AureliusM> !check mctest.dyndns.tv
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#731 [13:20] <djbeatfire> help
#732 [13:21] <Wug> :ww
#733 [13:21] <WugBot> ww: Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#734 [13:21] <AureliusM> techtwa: it's a vanilla server, best used with vanilla clients
#735 [13:21] <djbeatfire> i will have the minecraft op hack
#736 [13:21] <Wug> what do you mean "you will have it"
#737 [13:21] <DopeGhoti> You will what?
#738 [13:21] <techtwa> what does that mean aure
#739 [13:22] <gPad2002> So yes
#740 [13:22] <gPad2002> As I was saying
#741 [13:23] <gPad2002> DopeGhoti: Have you seen McBans_Housecat?
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#747 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> gPad2002: I've not.
#748 [14:03] <gPad2002> I'll get you the github, sec
#749 [14:03] <gPad2002> Your bot was an inspiration for the FAQ system :P
#750 [14:04] <VoxelHead> \o/
#751 [14:04] <gPad2002> https://github.com/McBansHelpbot/McBans---Helpbot
#752 [14:06] <gPad2002> We use it in #mcbans on freenode
#753 [14:06] <gPad2002> Never thought an FAQ system could be so useful :P
#754 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> Really? I find them indespensable (:
#755 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> Glad to've sorta-helped (:
#756 [14:07] <gPad2002> :3
#757 [14:08] <gPad2002> Its a bit more strict than Vox about spamming
#758 [14:08] <gPad2002> But yes, much inspiration :3
#759 [14:08] <gPad2002> So thanks
#760 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> A pleasure
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#762 [14:08] <gPad2002> :3
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#764 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> Mmm, python. So pretty. So elegant. So everyhing TCL is not.
#765 [14:09] <gPad2002> Lol
#766 [14:09] <gPad2002> I do love python
#767 [14:09] <gPad2002> It forces you to write neat code
#768 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> TCL is the one thing I really don't like about Eggdrops; and I love everything else.
#769 [14:09] <gPad2002> Vox is an egg!
#770 [14:09] <gPad2002> Woah
#771 [14:10] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: Back to eggdrops I take it :P
#772 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> One day, I will have the time to fork the Eggdrop source and use .py for scripts rather than TCL
#773 [14:10] <oldtopman> On that day, you will be giving no fux about an IRC bot XD
#774 [14:10] <gPad2002> XD
#775 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> One day, I will have the time _and inclination_ to fork the Eggdrop source and use .py for scripts rather than TCL
#776 [14:10] <gPad2002> Brb :P
#777 [14:11] <gPad2002> lol
#778 [14:11] <gPad2002> I've nearly finished plugins for that not
#779 [14:11] <gPad2002> Bot*
#780 [14:11] <gPad2002> Anyway must wash up
#781 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> \o
#782 [14:15] <Jammy> Have I changed some setting or have they changed the leaves as i'm sure they used to be partially transparent?
#783 [14:16] <gPad2002> It's a setting
#784 [14:16] <gPad2002> Back, btw
#785 [14:16] <gPad2002> Graphics -> fast does that
#786 [14:16] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#787 [14:16] <Jammy> ah ha
#788 [14:16] <Jammy> ty :)
#789 [14:16] <gPad2002> Welcome :P
#790 [14:17] <Jammy> cutting down messed up tree made easier again :)
#791 [14:19] <gPad2002> :P
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#795 [14:38] <NitroNoddy> Evening all
#796 [14:39] <NitroNoddy> my minecrfat was running fine all day i just went to log in now and got the following error "java.lang.SecurityException: SHA1 digest error for org/lwjgl/NondirectBufferWrapper.class" any help
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#798 [14:51] <Grim_Reaper> Try redownloading your minecraft NitroNoddy. Start the launcher and click options > Force update> Try again
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#801 [14:57] <NitroNoddy> ok will try that now Grim thanks.. ill report back
#802 [14:58] <Grim_Reaper> ^^
#803 [14:59] <NitroNoddy> Grim i tried that 10 mins ago and it crashed.. just did it now and it works.. it obviously feared Death ! lol thanks muchly
#804 [14:59] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#805 [14:59] <Grim_Reaper> Anytime ^^
#806 [15:00] <NitroNoddy> back to my fossils/dinosaurd and Railcraft and tunneler ;)
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#808 [15:00] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#809 [15:00] <Grim_Reaper> Oh my :o
#810 [15:01] <Grim_Reaper> Thanks DopeGhoti <3
#811 [15:01] <NitroNoddy> ah problemo.. no ovens etc for railcraft... load old saves?
#812 [15:01] <NitroNoddy> or will i have to reload the mods 1 by 1 and test each tuime
#813 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> \o
#814 [15:02] <Grim_Reaper> You can try both of those
#815 [15:02] <Grim_Reaper> But yeah. Im not so great with mods :p
#816 [15:02] <NitroNoddy> k ill try loading the saves first ( its quicker) ive only been playing minecraft for 2 weeks and im addicted
#817 [15:02] <Grim_Reaper> If the saves contain things that mods give, the game might crash
#818 [15:03] <Grim_Reaper> So be sure to make backups of your saves NitroNoddy
#819 [15:03] <Grim_Reaper> Stuff like items etc etc
#820 [15:04] <NitroNoddy> yes i always backup my whol .minecraft folder.. im going to have to load each mod in fresh..
#821 [15:05] <Grim_Reaper> :p
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#827 [15:29] <awesomeman> Just wanted to say thanks to Wug for helping me with Linux last night.
#828 [15:29] <Wug> awesomeman: np
#829 [15:30] <awesomeman> Going to attempt it right now
#830 [15:30] <Wug> its what were here for
#831 [15:30] <Wug> we're*
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#833 [15:34] <awesomeman> It worked. THank you
#834 [15:34] <awesomeman> *Thank you
#835 [15:34] <awesomeman> *Thank you
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#839 [15:38] <awesomeman> Ok, so it now launches, and lets me log in, then shows the updating minecraft screen. However, once it finishs updating, the window goes black
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#841 [15:43] <awesomeman> On the website, all I get is a white screen
#842 [15:43] <xales> awesomeman: Are you launching it from a terminal?
#843 [15:44] <awesomeman> no
#844 [15:45] <xales> awesomeman: try launching it from a terminal; it will tell you why it isn't working
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#846 [15:45] <xales> if you need help with that, ask Wug. I have to go :|
#847 [15:45] <awesomeman> alright
#848 [15:45] <awesomeman> thanks anyway
#849 [15:45] <Wug> thbbgbhsrtg
#850 [15:46] <awesomeman> ?
#851 [15:46] * Wug pokes xales
#851 [15:46] <Wug> ok, open a terminal
#852 [15:46] <awesomeman> How do I launch from a terminal. Is it the same as Windows?
#853 [15:46] <Wug> pretty much
#854 [15:47] <awesomeman> alright
#855 [15:47] <awesomeman> one sec
#856 [15:47] <awesomeman> what command?
#857 [15:48] <Wug> first, change to the location of minecraft.jar with cd
#858 [15:48] <Wug> iirc you put it in downloads
#859 [15:48] <Wug> so "cd Downloads"
#860 [15:49] <Wug> then "java -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
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#862 [15:50] <awesomeman> ok
#863 [15:50] <xales> Wug: java -jar minecraft.jar is easier
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#865 [15:50] <deathspawn> anyone else getting Took too long to log in?
#866 [15:50] <Wug> xales: -jar sometimes seperates stdout and stderr from the terminal
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#868 [15:51] <awesomeman> Xales: It said it was unable to access the file
#869 [15:51] <Wug> especially on windows though I have seen it on other oss as well
#870 [15:51] <xales> Wug: I've never seen it do that, ever
#871 [15:51] * Wug has
#871 [15:51] <NinjaKirby> Sorry, is there a bot here I can request the latest Server download link from?
#872 [15:51] <xales> deathspawn: Have you paid for it? Tried a different server?
#873 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> !server
#874 [15:51] <Wug> awesomeman: use "ls"
#875 [15:51] <NinjaKirby> Thanks Grey :)
#876 [15:51] <deathspawn> xales: yes and no, ill try another one sec
#877 [15:51] <Wug> tell me if minecraft.jar is in the list of files
#878 [15:52] <Johnny> what does it mean when it says end of stream when trying to connect to a server does that mean my computer is too slow?
#879 [15:52] <deathspawn> actually i just got on this one on my 4th try
#880 [15:52] <magictj> no it just means the server isnt on wot ip you trying to go to?
#881 [15:53] <xales> Johnny: If it happens on every server, it's a problem with your firewall or Internet connection
#882 [15:53] <awesomeman> It says "desktop Downloads Music Public Ubuntu One Documents examples.desktop Pictures Templates Videos"
#883 [15:53] <xales> Johnny: If it happens on one server all the time, it's a problem with the server
#884 [15:53] <awesomeman> minecraft.jar is not listed
#885 [15:53] <xales> Johnny: if it's the first time you've seen it, restart your client
#886 [15:53] <Johnny> no i can get on the server for like 5 min then it says that
#887 [15:53] <xales> Johnny: try a different server then...
#888 [15:54] <Wug> awesomeman: you didnt "cd Downloads"
#889 [15:54] <awesomeman> derp
#890 [15:54] <awesomeman> ONe second
#891 [15:54] <awesomeman> ONe second
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#893 [15:54] <Johnny> ok
#894 [15:54] <awesomeman> yes minecraft.jar is listed
#895 [15:55] <Wug> use the java comand again
#896 [15:55] <Wug> "java -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#897 [15:57] <awesomeman> ok
#898 [15:59] <awesomeman> It said :"Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",
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#900 [16:05] <Wug> is that all it says
#901 [16:05] <Wug> sorry, was distracted
#902 [16:06] <Wug> that error should be noncritical and it should still work
#903 [16:06] <awesomeman> it is repeated 4 times
#904 [16:06] <Wug> then nothing?
#905 [16:06] <Wug> black screen and no other messages?
#906 [16:07] <Wug> also to fix the pixmap error, run this: sudo aptitude install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
#907 [16:07] <awesomeman> yep
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#909 [16:10] <awesomeman> sudo aptitude doesn't work
#910 [16:13] <awesomeman> I need to bo.
#911 [16:13] <awesomeman> I'll be back later
#912 [16:13] <awesomeman> I'll be back later
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#914 [16:17] <Calinou> aptitude lol
#915 [16:17] <Calinou> use apt-get
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#919 [16:18] <MCDanny> hi
#920 [16:19] <Wug> lol wtf
#921 [16:19] <MCDanny> ?? xD
#922 [16:19] <MCDanny> is hi so unusual ? ^^
#923 [16:19] <Grim_Reaper> Hello
#924 [16:19] <Wug> Calinou: my brain skimmed right over that, I copied it verbatim from http://osiux.com/gtk-warning-unable-to-locate-theme-engine-in-module-path-pixmap.txt
#925 [16:19] <Wug> MCDanny: hello
#926 [16:19] <MCDanny> ive got a little problem
#927 [16:20] <MCDanny> when i go fullscreen via f11 my game freezes 90% of the time
#928 [16:20] <MCDanny> its so annoying >.<
#929 [16:20] <rev-lemon> is that with the new pre release
#930 [16:20] <rev-lemon> down down the graphics of the game
#931 [16:20] <MCDanny> no i have the 1.1 normal version
#932 [16:20] <MCDanny> and ive already tried that
#933 [16:20] <Grim_Reaper> Has it always done this or just recently?
#934 [16:21] <MCDanny> i have set the heap size to 3GB but it doesnt even work on higher or lower settings
#935 [16:21] <MCDanny> it does this since 1.0
#936 [16:21] <rev-lemon> depends on how old or new your computer is and verious other factors
#937 [16:21] <MCDanny> ive never had that problem before
#938 [16:21] <Wug> what os are you on
#939 [16:21] <MCDanny> windows 7 and my pc is pretty good :o
#940 [16:21] <MCDanny> i mean it can run bf3 smoothly ^^
#941 [16:22] <rev-lemon> bf3 isnt minecraft
#942 [16:22] <Wug> bf3 uses directx and minecraft does not
#943 [16:22] <Wug> they are as different as night and day
#944 [16:22] <MCDanny> i know im just saying its powerful
#945 [16:22] <Wug> :dx
#946 [16:22] <WugBot> dx: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#947 [16:22] <WugBot> dx: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#948 [16:22] <Calinou> Wug: and directx sucks :P
#949 [16:23] <Calinou> MCDanny: is your computer 64 bit/do you have a 64 bit os/do you have 64 bit java?
#950 [16:23] <Calinou> if so, install 64 bit java - this is essential to avoid MOST crashes
#951 [16:23] <MCDanny> i have 64 bit java installed
#952 [16:23] <MCDanny> as i said mc used to run perfectly until 1.0
#953 [16:23] <MCDanny> and no its not cracked
#954 [16:24] <Wug> :dx
#955 [16:24] <WugBot> dx: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#956 [16:24] <WugBot> dx: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#958 [16:27] <MCDanny> http://pastebin.com/QViRaQUM
#959 [16:27] <MCDanny> i did that
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#961 [16:32] <MCDanny> hello..? you there?
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#964 [16:39] <MCDanny> wug?
#965 [16:40] <Wug> this is a laptop right
#966 [16:41] <Wug> I'm not sure why its crashing. does it hang or does it close completely
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#972 [17:05] <JordanFiedelholtz> Hello
#973 [17:05] <JordanFiedelholtz> I Have A Couple Of Questions About Minecraft.
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#975 [17:06] <crazilon> Hey, does anyone know any good jungle seeds for 12x04a?
#976 [17:06] <crazilon> *12w04a
#977 [17:06] <crazilon> Oh, sorry. I just read the topic :P
#978 [17:07] <JordanFiedelholtz> Is Free Mode Unlimited Things (Like Redstone powered Tracks?)
#979 [17:08] <AureliusM> JordanFiedelholtz: Free mode? Do you mean Creative mode where you have unlimited blocks and items?
#980 [17:08] <JordanFiedelholtz> Yep.
#981 [17:09] <AureliusM> JordanFiedelholtz: Then, yes, Creative mode lets you obtain unlimited blocks and items. Powered rails included.
#982 [17:09] <JordanFiedelholtz> Cool. Now For My Second Question, What Is Survival Mode? How Does It Work?
#983 [17:10] <|Kiikun|> survival mode is surviving monsters :P
#984 [17:11] <|Kiikun|> things spawn at night and in dark places
#985 [17:11] <|Kiikun|> they try and kill you :P you try and kill them back, or try to protect yourself in lit, enclosed places
#986 [17:11] <JordanFiedelholtz> Ah, Alright. But Can You Build Blocks In This Mode?
#987 [17:11] <|Kiikun|> JordanFiedelholtz: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Survival_Mode
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#989 [17:11] <|Kiikun|> yes.
#990 [17:12] <JordanFiedelholtz> Thanks. Just Saved The Link
#991 [17:12] <|Kiikun|> you have to mine the blocks you want though
#992 [17:13] <|Kiikun|> oh... and hunger too. you need to eat
#993 [17:13] <JordanFiedelholtz> Mine? What Do You Mean?
#994 [17:13] <|Kiikun|> dig.
#995 [17:13] <|Kiikun|> beat on thing so they drop resources that you use to build :P
#996 [17:14] <|Kiikun|> or use to make tools, or craft into other resources.
#997 [17:14] <Boreeas> JordanFiedelholtz: Mind stopping to capitalize every word?
#998 [17:15] <JordanFiedelholtz> Sorry, it's just how i type. My final question is what's the adventure update?
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#1000 [17:18] <AureliusM> JordanFiedelholtz: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Adventure_Update
#1001 [17:19] <JordanFiedelholtz> Thank You!
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#1005 [17:36] <Puddles> Hi i am looking for assistance please
#1006 [17:37] <DreadLindwyrm> What is the problem?
#1007 [17:38] <Puddles> I bought minecraft earlyier and im having problems getting it to work
#1008 [17:38] <Puddles> its stuck on downloading packages
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#1010 [17:38] <bigcj> having trouble with players joining my server
#1011 [17:39] <AureliusM> Puddles: Try disabling your antivirus and retrying.
#1012 [17:39] <bigcj> where can i find my antivirus
#1013 [17:39] <Puddles> ok will try
#1014 [17:40] <AureliusM> bigcj: That was for Puddles; what problem are you seeing?
#1015 [17:40] <|Kiikun|> !check 75.120.225.176
#1016 [17:41] <bigcj> last night my friend joined my server and then a lot of lag then he said that it cant reach server
#1017 [17:41] <Puddles> No disabling anti virus has not worked
#1018 [17:41] <|Kiikun|> im getting massive lag too.
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#1020 [17:42] * |Kiikun| was just checking bigcj's server.
#1020 [17:43] <|Kiikun|> btw, sorry for the creeper damage... whats your connection speed?
#1021 [17:43] <bigcj> i have no idea how can i find it
#1022 [17:43] <AureliusM> Puddles: What package does it get stuck on?
#1023 [17:44] <|Kiikun|> bigcj: www.speedtest.net
#1024 [17:45] <AureliusM> Puddles: Have you uininstalled all Java and installed only Java 6?
#1025 [17:46] <Puddles> how can i tell if thats all i have
#1026 [17:46] <bigcj> 1.53mbs
#1027 [17:46] <|Kiikun|> bigcj: thats your upload speed?
#1028 [17:46] <AureliusM> Puddles: Windows?
#1029 [17:46] <|Kiikun|> and do the sharwe as image thing
#1030 [17:46] <bigcj> .27
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#1032 [17:47] <Puddles> sorry i searched java in control panel and it says i have Java 6 standered edition
#1033 [17:47] <AureliusM> Puddles: click Start click Contrrol Panel and double click the Java icon. Click the Java tab and click View and ensure there is only Java 6, product 1.6 update 30.
#1034 [17:48] <Puddles> yes its all i have
#1035 [17:48] <|Kiikun|> bigcj: i dont think you have a fast enough upload speed to run a server.
#1036 [17:48] <bigcj> but i ran one last night
#1037 [17:49] <AureliusM> Puddles: Let's see what files were downloaded: click Start or Run, type %APPDATA%/.minecraft and press the Enter key. You should see a folder with files and subfolders.
#1038 [17:49] <|Kiikun|> bigcj: was it laggy then?
#1039 [17:50] <Puddles> ok i have a Bin folder with a lone file in it named Version and i have a last login file
#1040 [17:50] <bigcj> i didnt get lag he did
#1041 [17:52] <AureliusM> Puddles: Ok, and you are sure you have disabled antivirus and firewall? Did you download a fresh copy of minecraft.exe ? What Windows operating system are you running?
#1042 [17:52] <|Kiikun|> bigcj: its lagging for you now? then that means you have too much running on the computer and are maxing out your resources running both the game and server
#1043 [17:52] <bigcj> what do i do to fix it
#1044 [17:53] <|Kiikun|> bigcj: close other programs you dont need running. you can also reboot
#1045 [17:54] <bigcj> what programs i only have server running
#1046 [17:55] <Puddles> ok tried a fresh client firewall off and anti virus still stuck on downloading packages :( thanks for this help btw
#1047 [17:55] <AureliusM> Puddles: Click Start and type %userprofile% and press Enter and check the title has no strange characters in it.
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#1049 [17:56] <bigcj> would google chrome help me go faster
#1050 [17:56] <Puddles> just the 2 folders are showing .minecraft and my username
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#1052 [17:56] <AureliusM> Puddles: Does the username have any non-alphanumeric characters?
#1053 [17:57] <Puddles> no
#1054 [17:57] <AureliusM> Puddles: Somehow Windows or some program is preventing java from downloading, can you try this method to avoid using the APPDATA folder: http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#1055 [17:57] <AureliusM> Puddles: That method should also show us what the exact error is.
#1056 [17:58] <|Kiikun|> bigcj: ... youre playign in the browser?
#1057 [17:58] <|Kiikun|> !client
#1058 [17:58] <|Kiikun|> client runs faster (because it doesnt need the webbrowser open takign resources for itself)
#1059 [17:59] <bigcj> no i am playing in downloaded minecraft
#1060 [18:01] <bigcj> my server says 94ms
#1061 [18:01] <Puddles> ok ive follwed instructions, i double click run it luanchs minecraft but its still stuck on downloading packages
#1062 [18:02] <AureliusM> Puddles: What is showing in the black command window?
#1063 [18:03] <AureliusM> Puddles: Copy the contents to a pastebin and link it here.
#1064 [18:03] <AureliusM> ??> Puddles pastebin
#1065 [18:03] <VoxelHead> Puddles: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1067 [18:03] <Puddles> ok
#1068 [18:03] <Puddles> its saying terminate batch job now?
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#1072 [18:04] <AureliusM> Puddles: Not yet. Copy the whole text from that window first.
#1073 [18:05] <Puddles> C:\Users\Dean\Desktop\minecraft>java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.min ecraft.LauncherFrame
#1074 [18:05] <bigcj> if you were able to get on why cant he
#1075 [18:05] <AureliusM> Puddles: Um, the black command window should contain more than just one line.
#1076 [18:05] <Puddles> nope :s have i dont it wrong
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#1078 [18:06] <AureliusM> Puddles: Hmmm, no error messages? You saw Minecraft launch and you did Options Forec Update, logged in and it paused at the downloading part?
#1079 [18:06] <Puddles> yup
#1080 [18:08] <Puddles> C:\Users\Dean\Desktop\minecraft>java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.min ecraft.LauncherFrame java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.client.MinecraftApplet at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
#1081 [18:08] <Puddles> thats what i get if i say dont update
#1082 [18:08] <Puddles> and it doesnt load the game
#1083 [18:09] <xales> Puddles: You have to tell it to update
#1084 [18:09] <Puddles> I know i been doing that but its not updating
#1085 [18:09] <bigcj> let me re boot and i will be back
#1086 [18:09] <xales> Puddles: Is your firewall or antivirus software blocking it?
#1087 [18:10] <Puddles> nope both off atmo
#1088 [18:11] <xales> Puddles: And you are clicking 'yes' on the update screen...?
#1089 [18:11] <Puddles> yes
#1090 [18:11] <Puddles> and trying force update in options too
#1091 [18:12] <Puddles> i bought the game 3-4 hours ago and havnt managed to play yet
#1092 [18:12] <Puddles> :(
#1093 [18:12] <AureliusM> Puddles: Could be Java is not installed correctly.
#1094 [18:12] <Puddles> ive reinstalled it twice today after looking around forums for advice
#1095 [18:12] <AureliusM> Puddles: But, try this second method first: http://pastebin.com/FRjZEyGT
#1096 [18:12] <Puddles> ok
#1097 [18:13] <xales> Puddles: Based on the error I saw, you were either trying to run it without updating or it was being blocked by an antivirus program.
#1098 [18:13] <xales> If you have a Norton product, often disabling it does not actually disable it
#1099 [18:13] <xales> and removing it entirely is required.
#1100 [18:13] <xales> anyway, I have to go for now, good luck
#1101 [18:13] <AureliusM> Puddles: (if that fails we will try using a new Windows user profile, but listen to xales for now as I'm off a for a few minutes looking after dinner )
#1102 [18:13] <mtjaxter> hello, when using regular minecraft_server.jar, what is the gamemode it has to be in, for u to not have creative
#1103 [18:14] <mtjaxter> because I've switched from 0 to 1, and both I still seem to be creative
#1104 [18:14] <mtjaxter> its 0 for non creative right?
#1105 [18:14] <Puddles> set APPDATA=%cd% java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame pause
#1106 [18:14] <Puddles> ok thanks for all the help
#1107 [18:15] <AureliusM> Puddles: Those should be three lines, first line being: set APPDATA=%cd%
#1108 [18:16] <Puddles> yer it wont paste them all il do bit by bgit
#1109 [18:16] <mtjaxter> how od u switch gamemode in regular minecraft server/
#1110 [18:16] <AureliusM> Puddles: Copy and paste does not work?
#1111 [18:17] <Puddles> C:\Users\Dean\Desktop\testfull>set APPDATA=C:\Users\Dean\Desktop\testfull C:\Users\Dean\Desktop\testfull>java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.mine craft.LauncherFrame java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Users\Dean\Desktop\testfull\.minecraft\lastlog in (The system cannot find the file specified) at java.io.FileInputStream.open(Native Method)
#1112 [18:19] <AureliusM> Puddles: that lastlogin not found is normal the first time, but did you then login with username and password?
#1113 [18:19] <Puddles> yes
#1114 [18:19] <AureliusM> Puddles: please use pastebin for pasting large texts.
#1115 [18:20] <AureliusM> Puddles: Ok, and what else is in that black command window? Could you paste it into pastebin.com ?
#1116 [18:20] <AureliusM> ??> Puddles pastebin
#1117 [18:20] <VoxelHead> Puddles: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1118 [18:20] <Puddles> sorry
#1119 [18:20] <Puddles> http://pastebin.com/PvdthCwQ
#1120 [18:22] <AureliusM> Puddles: Ok, and the downloading packages screen shows nothing? no file name?
#1121 [18:22] <Puddles> nope
#1122 [18:24] <AureliusM> Puddles: I'm stumped if it's not antivirus. But, let's try a new windows user profile, follow VoxelHead's instructions:
#1123 [18:24] <AureliusM> ??> Puddles win/profile
#1124 [18:24] <VoxelHead> Puddles: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1125 [18:24] <VoxelHead> Puddles: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1126 [18:25] * AureliusM is off for 2 minutes
#1126 [18:25] <Puddles> ok il try that
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#1128 [18:26] * AureliusM must remember to ask about the HOSTS file
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#1130 [18:27] <sprocket> hi
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#1132 [18:27] <sprocket> My minecraft sound is not working...
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#1134 [18:30] <puddles> new user didnt work
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#1136 [18:33] <AureliusM> Puddles: What antivirus are you using?
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#1138 [18:34] <puddles> AVG
#1139 [18:36] <AureliusM> Puddles: I'm looking to see how AVG is disabled.
#1140 [18:37] <puddles> ive disabled the anti virus
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#1142 [18:38] <xales_nexus> Puddles, disable the link scanner module specifically
#1143 [18:38] <AureliusM> Puddles: Have you checked the HOSTS file? Instructions follow.
#1144 [18:38] <puddles> ok
#1145 [18:38] <AureliusM> ??> Puddles win/hosts
#1146 [18:38] <VoxelHead> Puddles: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1147 [18:38] <VoxelHead> Puddles: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1148 [18:38] <xales_nexus> AureliusM its a problem with avg
#1149 [18:38] <AureliusM> Puddles: And really do check AVG is fully disabled, Linkscanner included
#1150 [18:39] <xales_nexus> Well most likely
#1151 [18:39] <AureliusM> xales_nexus: Yes I agree that's the most obvious cause, but it could be some other software that simulates antivirus blocking behaviour.
#1152 [18:40] <puddles> yup avg anti virus disapled, link scanner disabled and firewall off
#1153 [18:40] <AureliusM> xales_nexus: Or some wierd Windows permission setting...
#1154 [18:40] <AureliusM> ??> Puddles win/hosts
#1155 [18:40] <VoxelHead> Puddles: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1156 [18:40] <VoxelHead> Puddles: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1157 [18:41] <puddles> yer im trying to find this
#1158 [18:41] <AureliusM> Puddles: I still do not know what Windows operating system you have. XP I'm guessing?
#1159 [18:41] <puddles> aorry im a tool i been clicking the windows key you mean the one on the keyboard :s 1 sec doing it now
#1160 [18:41] <puddles> windows 7
#1161 [18:43] <puddles> http://pastebin.com/XNtCbYs5
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#1163 [18:44] <sauevaem> Hello.
#1164 [18:44] <sauevaem> My minecraft crashes.
#1165 [18:44] <sauevaem> It's a pitty I cant play it under linux.
#1166 [18:44] <sauevaem> http://pastebin.com/iqvW3GNP
#1167 [18:44] <AureliusM> Puddles: Ok your HOSTS is clean
#1168 [18:44] <sauevaem> cccccpastebin.com/Q7V1j5Ru
#1169 [18:44] <sauevaem> pastebin.com/Q7V1j5Ru
#1170 [18:44] <sauevaem> http://pastebin.com/Q7V1j5Ru
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#1172 [18:45] <sauevaem> Check error logs and please, please help me!
#1173 [18:45] <sauevaem> I tried sudo chmod go=u /dev/input/event* already.
#1174 [18:45] <sauevaem> Reinstalled java as well.
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#1176 [18:46] <sauevaem> Hardwere is also fine (probably)
#1177 [18:47] <AureliusM> Puddles: I'm looking for other causes still.
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#1180 [18:47] <wannabemac> Hello
#1181 [18:48] <puddles> thankyou, ive been looking all evening though, alot of people on forums had this unresolved and the ones who fixed it there methods havnt worked for me
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#1183 [18:48] * wannabemac stabs GreyVulpine
#1183 [18:48] * wannabemac stabs Wug
#1183 [18:48] <wannabemac> I have been meaning to do that.
#1184 [18:49] <sauevaem> AureliusM please give me some atention as well xD
#1185 [18:49] <puddles> my wife is about to try on her laptop and see if it works on that
#1186 [18:49] <mermi> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 1/27/12 6:49 PM Minecraft: Minecraft 1.1 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.6.0_3
#1187 [18:50] <wannabemac> lol?
#1188 [18:50] * oldtopman tests
#1188 [18:50] <AureliusM> Puddles: Let me recap: you've reinstalled Java 6 Update 30 (64 bit if the Os is 64), fully disabled AVG, deleted the /bin/ folder and retried, tried new windows profile, checked HOSTS is clean.
#1189 [18:50] * oldtopman fuck
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#1190 [18:50] <oldtopman> >.>
#1191 [18:50] <puddles> yup :(
#1192 [18:51] <mermi> I need help
#1193 [18:52] <sauevaem> We all need it.
#1194 [18:52] <AureliusM> Puddles: I can suggest things that should not give this error, but: try clearing the java cache: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/plugin_cache.xml
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#1196 [18:52] <mermi> Aurelius
#1197 [18:52] <puddles> ok
#1198 [18:52] <sauevaem> mermi: Why dont you update card drivers then?
#1199 [18:52] <mermi> How do i do that :p
#1200 [18:53] <sauevaem> How old are you?
#1201 [18:53] <mermi> 17 :p
#1202 [18:53] <sauevaem> xD
#1203 [18:53] <mermi> know shit about comps
#1204 [18:53] <sauevaem> What's your video card?
#1205 [18:53] <mermi> so do i update/
#1206 [18:53] <mermi> uhh how do i find out
#1207 [18:54] <wannabemac> ??>mermi win/dxdiag
#1208 [18:54] <puddles> nope hasnt worked
#1209 [18:54] <AureliusM> Puddles: Now I'm looking a possible Windows 7 problem with folder permissions...
#1210 [18:54] <sauevaem> I dont know. Havent used windows for ages.
#1211 [18:54] <wannabemac> ??> mermmi win/dxdiag
#1212 [18:54] <VoxelHead> mermmi: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1213 [18:54] <VoxelHead> mermmi: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1214 [18:55] <AureliusM> Puddles: Have you successfully downloading executable files to your desktop before?
#1215 [18:55] <sauevaem> Can someone look into my problem?
#1216 [18:55] <puddles> yes
#1217 [18:55] <sauevaem> http://pastebin.com/Q7V1j5Ru
#1218 [18:55] <sauevaem> http://pastebin.com/iqvW3GNP
#1219 [18:57] <AureliusM> Puddles: Can you search the Windows Event log for any errors reported at the same time as you've tried Minecraft? I'm looking up clear instructions to do this now.
#1220 [18:57] <mermi> http://pastebin.com/c3cDbs0T
#1221 [18:58] <puddles> ok
#1222 [18:58] <mermi> Sauevaem^
#1223 [18:59] <AureliusM> Puddles: I'm on Vista so Windows 7 might be different, some Microsoft instructions are here: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/What-information-appears-in-event-logs-Event-Viewer
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#1225 [19:00] <mermi> AureliusM
#1226 [19:00] <mermi> Can you help me
#1227 [19:00] <WugBot> mermi: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1228 [19:00] <mermi> Bad video card driver?
#1229 [19:00] <mermi> fixed by update driver
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#1231 [19:01] <mermi> but how do i do that?
#1232 [19:01] <|Kiikun|> mermi: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, Atari 2600, or LCARS?
#1233 [19:01] <mermi> 7
#1234 [19:01] <|Kiikun|> :dx > mermi
#1235 [19:01] <WugBot> mermi: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1236 [19:01] <WugBot> mermi: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1237 [19:02] <mermi> http://pastebin.com/c3cDbs0T
#1238 [19:02] <mermi> already did kt
#1239 [19:02] <AureliusM> sauevaem: that looks like a Linux error, I have little clue there.
#1240 [19:02] <puddles> http://pastebin.com/hBZN6wvr
#1241 [19:02] <puddles> hope thats right
#1242 [19:03] <sauevaem> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20601&ProdId=2996&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20Ultimate%2C%2064-bit%20version*&DownloadType=Drivers
#1243 [19:03] <mermi> saueveam
#1244 [19:03] <mermi> is that for me?
#1245 [19:03] <|Kiikun|> mermi: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20601
#1246 [19:03] <sauevaem> yup
#1247 [19:04] <|Kiikun|> mermi: and in the future, when windows update tries to update video drivers.... tell it to bugger off.
#1248 [19:04] <puddles> ive also had a warning one http://pastebin.com/twRBWx9L
#1249 [19:04] <AureliusM> Puddles: That event refers to "Minecraft(1).exe" - is there one which mentions java ?
#1250 [19:05] <sauevaem> AureliusM Can I do anything to give you better perspective on the problem?
#1251 [19:07] <sauevaem> I'm really clueless here and still want to play the damn minecraft on my laptop.
#1252 [19:07] <sauevaem> It's so annoying being poor.
#1253 [19:08] <sauevaem> I bet that it will work just fine on windows.
#1254 [19:08] <puddles> no only when i reinstalled it
#1255 [19:09] <AureliusM> sauevaem: Ok, your second pastebin looks as if Miencraft hung after it initialised OpenAL. The other is shows problematic frame [+0x424] __kernel_vsyscall+0x10 but I've never seen that kind of error before. I'd have to look at the advice we give Ubuntu users.
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#1257 [19:10] <AureliusM> Puddles: What error was reported when Java installed?
#1258 [19:10] <puddles> no error it just said installation process sucessfull
#1259 [19:11] <AureliusM> Puddles: Ah ok. Doew Minecraft hang at downloading and you have to kill the process with Task Manager?
#1260 [19:11] <AureliusM> Puddles: * Does *
#1261 [19:11] <puddles> nope i can exit via cross
#1262 [19:12] <puddles> my pc is the problem right
#1263 [19:13] <puddles> hold on
#1264 [19:13] <AureliusM> Puddles: Well, I've seen this once before here. maybe have been Windows 7, but no solution was found. I keep thinking it's some Windows security permission.
#1265 [19:13] <puddles> http://pastebin.com/6MpzDX87
#1266 [19:14] <puddles> under system i have DNS errors on event viewer
#1267 [19:15] <puddles> and another one when i tried to reload minecraft
#1268 [19:16] <AureliusM> Puddles: Does the 2012-01-27T23:43:18 match the time you tried Minecraft ? I'm just googling around now...
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#1270 [19:17] <puddles> i think so becuase i just tried minecraft a min ago and a new dns error came up
#1271 [19:18] * Wug realizes is stabb't
#1271 [19:18] <Wug> h/o backreading
#1272 [19:18] <andrewxios> "problematic frame" is a graphics driver error
#1273 [19:19] <andrewxios> oh sorry u were right xD
#1274 [19:19] <sauevaem> ?
#1275 [19:19] <puddles> and alot of these all night since i bought the game http://pastebin.com/KFiT8T37
#1276 [19:20] <NinjaKirby> Sorry, quicky question, is it possible to change Server Map Difficulty from the Server Console at all?
#1277 [19:21] <NinjaKirby> Actually, that must be a no, because it still troubles Simon & Lewis in their latest video's, heh
#1278 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: I think you need to edit the .properties file and restart.
#1279 [19:22] <NinjaKirby> Hey dope, thanks, I might end up doing that :P
#1280 [19:22] <AureliusM> Puddles: They all refer to Microsoft-Windows-DNS-Client, I've no idea if that's relevant. But DNS should be working to get downloads to work, that I know.
#1281 [19:22] <sauevaem> Oh, wow, new updates for video card have been released.
#1282 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> or, for safest results, shit down the server, edit the .properties file, and _then_ restart.
#1283 [19:22] <sauevaem> Hope it will fix the problem.
#1284 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> er.. sh_u_t down the server.
#1285 [19:22] <puddles> hmm so its narrowed down
#1286 [19:22] <NinjaKirby> Aye Dope, I wouldn't dare without Stopping it ^^;; And grand typo, hehe
#1287 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> I've done worse.
#1288 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> let's just say that the file system check utility, fsck, has unintended consequenses.
#1289 [19:23] <AureliusM> Puddles: Or, the error's always there, my Event log has hundreds of irrelevant events. But let's check this again: click Start and type %SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\etc\ and press Enter key
#1290 [19:23] <NinjaKirby> Lawdy :P
#1291 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> Not as bad as the Fashion College of the United Kingdom, or FCUK, though.
#1292 [19:24] <puddles> done
#1293 [19:24] * Wug backread complete
#1293 [19:24] <AureliusM> Puddles: That should open the \etc folder showing the HOSTS file and probably others
#1294 [19:24] <Wug> AureliusM: what are you trying now
#1295 [19:24] <Wug> his hosts file is clean
#1296 [19:25] <puddles> yer we checked that didnt we
#1297 [19:25] <andrewxios> maybe he could try google dns?
#1298 [19:25] <AureliusM> Puddles: Have yo set Windows to show file extensions? If not: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/865219
#1299 [19:25] <Wug> :tv > puddles
#1300 [19:25] <WugBot> puddles: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1301 [19:25] <WugBot> puddles: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1302 [19:26] <puddles> ok and i am on google too
#1303 [19:26] <Wug> puddles: download teamviewer from their site and I'll see if I can fix it
#1304 [19:27] <puddles> ok
#1305 [19:27] <AureliusM> WUg: I know, I wanted to check the attributes of the HOSTS, but I'm out of ideas really.
#1306 [19:28] <Wug> his hosts file contains all comments
#1307 [19:28] <puddles> ok i have teamviewer
#1308 [19:28] <Wug> you know, I think I might know what it is
#1309 [19:28] <Wug> puddles: start it and send me the id and pass
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#1311 [19:29] * AureliusM is quite curious what the problem turns out to be
#1311 [19:30] * GreyVulpine reads up...
#1311 [19:30] * wannabemac stabs GreyVulpine
#1311 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> Did you have puddles disable the linkscanner module of AVG?
#1312 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Ow?
#1313 [19:31] <AureliusM> Recap Puddles: reinstalled Java 6 Update 30 (64 bit if the Os is 64), fully disabled AVG, deleted the /bin/ folder and retried, tried new windows profile, checked HOSTS is clean.
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#1315 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Even disabling AVG has the effect of blocking minecraft downloads
#1316 [19:32] <AureliusM> GreyVulpine: You mean it has to be uninstalled ?
#1317 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> You need to specifically tell AVG's linkscanner module to buzz off.
#1318 [19:32] <bigcj> i am having trouble with getting players on my server
#1319 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> I mean, disabling AVG doesn't disable AVG.
#1320 [19:32] <Frymaster> GreyVulpine: ah, it only disables the scan-on-file-access component, not the browser download security component?
#1321 [19:33] * GreyVulpine nods
#1321 [19:34] <Wug> puddles is all fixes
#1322 [19:34] <puddles> he fixed it
#1323 [19:34] <Wug> it was relevant knowledge
#1324 [19:34] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#1324 [19:34] * Wug palms AureliusM's face
#1324 [19:34] * AureliusM ohs, relevant knowledge again?
#1324 [19:34] <puddles> whats relevant knowledge
#1325 [19:35] <Wug> its some sort of shady adware-like thing
#1326 [19:35] <Wug> youre better off without it
#1327 [19:35] <puddles> aaah
#1328 [19:35] <Frymaster> GreyVulpine: http://blog.jitbit.com/2012/01/why-developers-hate-antiviruses.html
#1329 [19:35] <puddles> thankyou so so so much
#1330 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> Frymaster - Indeed
#1331 [19:35] <puddles> and aurelius thanks too
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#1333 [19:36] * AureliusM adds relevant knowledge to his checklist
#1333 [19:36] * GreyVulpine points AureliusM to http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/587899-failed-to-launch-fatal-error-occured-4/
#1333 [19:37] <bigcj> i am having trouble with players not being able to get on my server
#1334 [19:37] <puddles> that should be stickied on those forums ive seen lots of the same issue unresolved
#1335 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> ;check bigcj
#1336 [19:38] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 99-195-234-232.dyn.centurytel.net:25565 (Timed out)
#1337 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> bigcj - Port forwarded?
#1338 [19:38] <bigcj> what
#1339 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> That would be a no, then.
#1340 [19:38] <Wug> puddles: it either causes weird errors or hangs when downloading
#1341 [19:38] <Wug> but its symptoms are kind of vague
#1342 [19:39] <Wug> usually, I suspect it after trying hosts and firewalls
#1343 [19:39] <Wug> and after checking for java 7
#1344 [19:39] <Wug> which manifests in a similar way
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#1346 [19:40] <puddles> well thanks very much im gonna crack on with my new game woop
#1347 [19:40] <puddles> goodbye all
#1348 [19:40] <bigcj> i gave my friend my location name and ip address and we got on last night and then there was some lag and then he tried to get back on and he said it said could not connect to server
#1349 [19:41] <bigcj> even though i was able to get on
#1350 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> bigcj - Either your port forwarding is not set up correctly, or the server is not running
#1351 [19:41] <bigcj> how can i fix my port forwarding
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#1353 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on, that's hosting the minecraft server?
#1354 [19:43] <bigcj> you talkin to me
#1355 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#1357 [19:44] <bigcj> idk how can i find it out
#1358 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Are you running windows? MacOS? Linux? AmigaOS?
#1359 [19:44] <bigcj> windows 7
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#1361 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> bigcj - Head to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd
#1362 [19:45] <bigcj> alright i clicked it
#1363 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> At the black command prompt window, please put in: ipconfig
#1364 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Tell me the IPv4 address and default gateway:
#1365 [19:46] <bigcj> k
#1366 [19:47] <bigcj> ip10.0.0.11 gway 10.0.0.1
#1367 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Head to your web browser, put in: http://10.0.0.1
#1368 [19:47] <xbonesx> is it normal for an admin to not have to sleep for the night to progress when other players sleep?
#1369 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Log into your router, look for port forwarding. Port forward port 25565/TCP to 10.0.0.11
#1370 [19:48] <xbonesx> i have one other player on my server and whenever they sleep the night passes whether im in bed or not (im the owner...)
#1371 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> Are you in creative mode?
#1372 [19:48] <xbonesx> no
#1373 [19:48] <bigcj> what im on a westell router
#1374 [19:48] <xbonesx> were playing survival with no mods or plugins available to the default players just me...
#1375 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> bigcj - Then configure your westell router to port forward port 25565/TCP to 10.0.0.11
#1376 [19:50] <xbonesx> GreyVulpine: could it be one of my pluggins allowing this?
#1377 [19:50] <bigcj> how do i do that
#1378 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> ??> bigcj teamviewer
#1379 [19:50] <VoxelHead> bigcj: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1380 [19:50] <VoxelHead> bigcj: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1381 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> get that, PM me the teamviewer ID and password
#1382 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> xbonesx - No idea
#1383 [19:51] <xbonesx> I have multi-verse/w portal, essentials/w groupmang., LWC, timeshift, and worldedit.
#1384 [19:51] <bigcj> ok i have it downloading
#1385 [19:53] <clarjon1> xbonesx: you're having an issue with bukkit.
#1386 [19:53] <clarjon1> xbonesx: also, it'll be vanish
#1387 [19:53] <bigcj> now what do i give you
#1388 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> The 9 digit ID and 4 digit password
#1389 [19:54] <bigcj> in remote control
#1390 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1391 [19:55] <bigcj> on your id or on partner
#1392 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Your id
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#1394 [19:55] <xbonesx> clarjon1: meaning what exactly?
#1395 [19:55] <xbonesx> can i change vanish?
#1396 [19:55] <bigcj> do i clear out my id and password
#1397 [19:55] <clarjon1> xbonesx: Do you have VanishNoPacket installed?
#1398 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> bigcj - No. Copy the 9 digit ID from "Your ID" and 4 digit password from the field beneath that to me
#1399 [19:56] <xbonesx> clarjon1: not even sure what that is... never messed with anything called that, no permissions or anything
#1400 [19:56] <clarjon1> xbonesx: anyways, it's a Bukkit issue. go ask in #bukkit
#1401 [19:57] <xbonesx> oh i wasn't sure if it would be a bukkit issue
#1402 [19:57] <clarjon1> well seeing as native minecraft doesn't let you use plugins...
#1403 [19:57] <bigcj> i dont understand
#1404 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> bigcj - Do you have teamviewer up?
#1405 [19:58] <bigcj> yes
#1406 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Is it switched to the "Remote Control" tab?
#1407 [19:58] <bigcj> yes
#1408 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a heading marked, "Allow remote Control"?
#1409 [19:58] <bigcj> yes
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#1411 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Underneath that, are two fields, "Your ID" and "Password"
#1412 [19:59] <Wug> the id and password should be on the left somewhere
#1413 [19:59] <bigcj> yes
#1414 [19:59] <Wug> GreyVulpine needs those
#1415 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> What does it say to the left of those fields?
#1416 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> er, right
#1417 [19:59] * GreyVulpine kicks Wug
#1417 [19:59] * Wug bows
#1417 [20:00] <bigcj> id354 122 472 password9916
#1418 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Sit back, let me take control here.
#1419 [20:01] <NinjaKirby> Derp, I just disabled level saving, to run a backup without stopping the server. It says "Disabling level saving.." and has for a while.
#1420 [20:01] <NinjaKirby> Which is eventually indicate a success, or has it processed the command? :/
#1421 [20:01] <NinjaKirby> *Will it eventually, wut
#1422 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> ;check bigcj
#1423 [20:02] <WugBot> 99-195-234-232.dyn.centurytel.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: A Minecraft Server (0/20)
#1424 [20:02] <NinjaKirby> Sweet O_o
#1425 [20:02] <NinjaKirby> ;check NinjaKirby
#1426 [20:02] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 5ad6d06d.bb.sky.com:25565 (Timed out)
#1427 [20:02] <NinjaKirby> Heh, fair enough
#1428 [20:03] <NinjaKirby> Oh I see, wrong port number
#1429 [20:07] <ngc0202> ;check ngc0202
#1430 [20:07] <WugBot> c-24-2-207-168.hsd1.ma.comcast.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: ngc0202's Server (2/10)
#1431 [20:07] <ngc0202> me gusta
#1432 [20:08] <ngc0202> ;check 70.81.43.81
#1433 [20:08] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 70.81.43.81:25565 (Timed out)
#1434 [20:08] <ngc0202> I knew it!
#1435 [20:15] <NinjaKirby> inb4 I cry
#1436 [20:15] <NinjaKirby> Hurray! I thought I screwed myself over for a moment
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#1438 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> ?
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#1440 [20:26] <NinjaKirby> I did that no-save stuff, run my new Cobian backup task, it saved everything except the map files O_o
#1441 [20:26] <NinjaKirby> I'm glad I was smart and did a normal Copy of the folder as well
#1442 [20:28] <NinjaKirby> "I'm smart! Unlike someone we know...", cookie to the first who knows the quote
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#1444 [20:39] <ngc0202> Raw Deal?
#1445 [20:39] <ngc0202> If so, cookie to the internet
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#1447 [20:44] <bigcj> grey vulcanire
#1448 [20:45] <bigcj> i need that ip address again
#1449 [20:45] <bigcj> i mean grey vulpine
#1450 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> For your friend to connect?
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#1452 [20:46] <bigcj> yes
#1453 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> 99.195.234.232
#1454 [20:46] <HammerOfThor> Hi, For some reason Essentials was just working. I edited one line, and now it says Essentials hasn't loaded properly check console logs...
#1455 [20:47] <bigcj> thanks man now i saved it
#1456 [20:47] <bigcj> thanks man now i saved it
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#1463 [21:36] <NinjaKirby> A trap in my map is exploding seconds after I login, so I'm trying to find a save now before it occurs.
#1464 [21:36] <NinjaKirby> Just found it, but guess what, launched in server mode it exploded and was saved anyway, I'm such a derp
#1465 [21:41] <Jiggler> whats a good plugin for survial to make monsters not spawn in the spawn and no pvp like safe zone?
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#1467 [21:44] <xales> Perhaps ask #bukkit .
#1468 [21:52] <Jiggler> think i got one
#1469 [21:52] <Jiggler> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/admn-sec-izone-v7-1-zone-protection-system-1-1.54721/
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#1472 [21:58] <NinjaKirby> Night guys, thanks for the help tonight
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#1490 [23:54] <superduck23> Can I ask questions inquiring the MCforum because nobody answers me in their chat?
#1491 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> We have no control over the forums here
#1492 [23:54] <superduck23> I know
#1493 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> That's why the admins of the forums have #minecraftforums
#1494 [23:55] <superduck23> I tried, I'll go try again then
#1495 [23:55] <superduck23> I tried, I'll go try again then
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#1497 [23:59] <Wug> GreyVulpine: ...
#1498 [23:59] <Wug> it helps if they have more than 45 seconds of patience