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#2 [15:33] <|Kiichan|Schala|> that... i forget o.o; *checks*
#3 [15:34] <|Kiichan|Schala|> https://account.mojang.com/migrate
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#5 [15:35] <Asus> thanks friend
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#19 [16:31] <itshtommeh_> is there any way to get make the rain stop on SMP?
#20 [16:31] <itshtommeh_> nevermind :P
#21 [16:33] <|Kiichan|Schala|> deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp
#22 [16:33] <|Kiichan|Schala|> is it just me or is it quiet in here?
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#24 [16:38] <Jammy> Is there a way you're meant to get out of boats that doesn't result in them flying off... generally into a wall and smashing? :P
#25 [16:39] <|Kiikun|Janus|> i find trying to jump out and move sideways works more often then not.
#26 [16:39] <|Kiikun|Janus|> or make some kind of boat dock that wont kill you...
#27 [16:39] <Jammy> boat dock?
#28 [16:39] <|Kiikun|Janus|> a place the boat can be contained in some fassion...
#29 [16:40] <Jammy> I was thinking I might have to go with the mine cart on pier method :P
#30 [16:40] <|Kiikun|Janus|> though you tend to take fall damage equivalent ot thre time youre in the boat half the time :/
#31 [16:40] <Jammy> jump into minecart from boat then out of cart
#32 [16:40] <|Kiikun|Janus|> that works too
#33 [16:40] <DreadLindwyrm> What happens with slabs and boats these days?
#34 [16:40] <Jammy> slabs?
#35 [16:40] <|Kiikun|Janus|> DreadLindwyrm: Death... usualy
#36 [16:41] <DreadLindwyrm> KK. I've not tried anything with boats for a while.
#37 [16:41] <Jammy> Anyway, other reason I came in here...
#38 [16:41] <|Kiikun|Janus|> its less prevalent in singleplayer... but smp usually leads to '* Sennyotai died'
#39 [16:41] <Jammy> I deleted my .minecraft folder and reinstalled...
#40 [16:41] <Jammy> before I had to do F3 and S to get sound every time...
#41 [16:41] <Jammy> now I seem to get no sound no matter what :P
#42 [16:42] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Jammy: make sure all the sound sliders are up and windows mixer doesnt have java or minecraft muted.
#43 [16:43] <Jammy> Not showing mc or java in mixer for windows
#44 [16:43] <Jammy> both the sound related ones ingame are at full
#45 [16:43] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mc has to be open :P
#46 [16:43] <Jammy> it is :/
#47 [16:43] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ah.. xp?
#48 [16:43] <Jammy> win 7
#49 [16:44] <|Kiikun|Janus|> erm... it should show minecraft... that means the sound system isnt even starting?
#50 [16:44] <Jammy> It did the horrible beep when changing mixer levels
#51 [16:45] <Jammy> I almost deafened myself seeing if music would play having turned the sliders to full >.<
#52 [16:45] <Jammy> Thankfully I have head phones on so only I knew about it >.>
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#54 [16:45] * |Kiichan|Schala| goes afk since laptop is overheating the wifi again
#54 [16:46] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Jammy: its either openal or paulscode thats bugging out. try forceupdating again.... you can also try the troubleshooting bat to get a log.
#55 [16:47] <|Kiichan|Schala|> http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#56 [16:47] <Jammy> Hmm i closed mc and opened it again and just seen there is a thing in mixer now for mc
#57 [16:47] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :ts/bat
#58 [16:47] <WugBot> ts/bat: Could you please run minecraft using these instructions, it'll run minecraft in a command prompt window. Any errors will pop up there, please share them with us when you see them. http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh (Thanks GreyVulpine!)
#59 [16:47] <|Kiichan|Schala|> yup ok that was it :P
#60 [16:48] * |Kiichan|Schala| goes and lets laptop cool off
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#61 [16:52] <Rover> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/984218-i-can-join-my-hamachi-server-but-other-people-cannot/
#62 [16:52] <Rover> That is my problem. Can anyone help?
#63 [16:54] <AureliusM> Rover: we don't really help with hamachi here, are you able to set up a vanilla server and port forward successfully? Also the ip address in properties should be blank for vanilla.
#64 [16:57] <AureliusM> Rover: 5.162.211.188 is a Non-existent domain, and RIPE NCC reports this: These addreses are allocated to network operators who assign them to users' networks.
#65 [16:57] <Rover> AureliusM: Yes, I have indeed tried doing it with port forwarding and left it blank and gave people my external IP. I was able to connect with localhost, but again, people could not connect to my server.
#66 [16:58] <AureliusM> Rover: Test portforwarding with http://www.yougetsignal.com/
#67 [16:59] <Rover> "Port 25565 is closed on 98.166.251.242."
#68 [16:59] <Rover> Strange, I thought I had it set up.
#69 [17:00] <Rover> http://i.imgur.com/ws12k.png
#70 [17:00] <AureliusM> !check 5.162.211.188
#71 [17:00] <Rover> Yes, it looks like I have it set up.
#72 [17:00] <AureliusM> !check 98.166.251.242.
#73 [17:00] <AureliusM> !check 98.166.251.242
#74 [17:01] <Rover> I have also tried resetting my router. No luck. Any ideas?
#75 [17:02] <AureliusM> !check vwxyz.homeftp.net
#76 [17:03] <AureliusM> Rover: Did you follow the instructions at portforward.com for your router? And check any software firewall you might have.
#77 [17:03] <AureliusM> !check mc.minecraftirc.net
#78 [17:04] <Rover> Hm. Should I disable Windows Firewall, then?
#79 [17:04] <hmw> Rover: Is 5.162.211.188 your IP? I should be able to connect to your XAMPP, i guess. But I can't.
#80 [17:04] <AureliusM> Rover: Better is to configure the firewall specifically for that port.
#81 [17:05] <Rover> hmw: My IP is 98.166.251.242, I believe.
#82 [17:05] <hmw> Rover: you could disable the firewal _temporarily_ to check, if it blocks your server
#83 [17:05] <hmw> no http on this IP
#84 [17:06] <Rover> Haha, disabling Firewall fixed the whole problem.
#85 [17:06] <AureliusM> Rover: On my Visat I had to first enable "Windows Firewall with advanced protection" and then create a rule specifically for 25565, with TCP (UDP also maybe I forget)
#86 [17:06] <Rover> Alright, will try that.
#87 [17:06] <hmw> only TCP is needed for MC
#88 [17:09] <AureliusM> Rover: re-reading my notes when I did this for Vista I created a rule for incoming connections . I would not run a system with no firewall at all by the way.
#89 [17:09] <hmw> Especially under Windows
#90 [17:10] <AureliusM> hmv: Indeed, especially Windows, which needs belts and braces, defence in layers, and user education, and even then it's risky.
#91 [17:11] <hmw> When I want to make a Windows box secure, I usually shut it down, format the hard drive, disconnect the network and power cables and bury the whole thing in a huge concrete block down in the Ocean. That *might* help. *smirk*
#92 [17:12] <hmw> The main problem is probably the missing user education combined with the ease, one can catch a trojan or whatnot
#93 [17:13] <DreadLindwyrm> The main problem I find with Win stuff (compared to other platforms) is that the script kiddies "write" malware for it.
#94 [17:14] <DreadLindwyrm> Few of them bother with Mac or particular Linux distributions.
#95 [17:15] <|Kiichan|Schala|> doesnt help when MS takes a year to fix a security hole :P
#96 [17:17] <DreadLindwyrm> That's fair, but still, some of the other platforms aren't necessarily much better, people just hear less about them.
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#101 [17:29] <NintendoGamerBoy> I am wondering, where can I contact mojang to send them ideas for minecraft?
#102 [17:30] <DreadLindwyrm> Try looking at their website to see if they are taking any ideas. If not you could try twitter and see if they'd accept your solicitation.
#103 [17:30] <DreadLindwyrm> I doubt it though
#104 [17:30] <NintendoGamerBoy> Ok, DreadLindwyrm, I will brb to see.
#105 [17:31] <NintendoGamerBoy> If you need me, mention my name
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#107 [17:33] <NintendoGamerBoy0> Sorry. internet explorer froze
#108 [17:33] <NintendoGamerBoy0> So Dread, where do I look?
#109 [17:35] <NintendoGamerBoy0> Dread
#110 [17:35] <DreadLindwyrm> I don't know. Is there a "contacts" section?
#111 [17:35] <NintendoGamerBoy0> DreadLindwyrm
#112 [17:35] <NintendoGamerBoy0> Nope
#113 [17:36] <DreadLindwyrm> In that case I'd assume they aren't taking submissions.
#114 [17:36] <NintendoGamerBoy0> THEY HAZ TO BE :C
#115 [17:39] <DreadLindwyrm> NintendoGamerBoy0: Try these, and post a question about if they are accepting any ideas. www.facebook.com/minecraft or http://www.minecraftforum.net/index.php
#116 [17:39] <DreadLindwyrm> Hopefully someone from the studio will get back to you.
#117 [17:40] <NintendoGamerBoy0> Ok
#118 [17:40] <NintendoGamerBoy0> Should I post it in the ideas section?
#119 [17:40] <DopeGhoti> see also reddit.com/r/minecraft
#120 [17:40] <DopeGhoti> but you may as well be writing letters to Santa.
#121 [17:40] <NintendoGamerBoy0> lol ikr?
#122 [17:40] <NintendoGamerBoy0> LOLZ
#123 [17:46] <NintendoGamerBoy0> Can you disucc my idea DreadLindWyrm?
#124 [17:47] <DreadLindwyrm> Maybe, but I'm nothing official. I can tell you if I like it.
#125 [17:47] <NintendoGamerBoy0> *discuss
#126 [17:47] <Boreeas> What ever happened to getsatisfaction?
#127 [17:47] <NintendoGamerBoy0> Ok
#128 [17:47] <NintendoGamerBoy0> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/984442-shop/
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#130 [17:47] <Boreeas> Still there
#131 [17:47] <|Kiichan|Schala|> the best chance is to make a mod for your idea... then get a butload of people to use and extol it :P
#132 [17:47] <Boreeas> NintendoGamerBoy0: Suggestions go here: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#133 [17:47] <NintendoGamerBoy0> Crud.
#134 [17:48] <|Kiichan|Schala|> o.o;
#135 [17:48] <NintendoGamerBoy0> NO THEY DON'T
#136 [17:48] <|Kiichan|Schala|> iConomy
#137 [17:48] <NintendoGamerBoy0> THEY GO ON THE FORUMS
#138 [17:48] <TheNoodle> ...
#139 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> Uh no
#140 [17:48] <Boreeas> ;kick NintendoGamerBoy0 Excessive caps and not listening
#141 [17:48] * WugBot kicked NintendoGamerBoy0 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: intendoGamerBoy0 :Excessive caps and not listening)
#142 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> the fora are by no means official
#143 [17:48] <Boreeas> Wonder if he comes back
#144 [17:48] <|Kiichan|Schala|> you could email jeb with the idea.. or spam his twitter :P
#145 [17:49] <DreadLindwyrm> Ah well. The idea wasn't bad... It'd need better villagers though,.
#146 [17:49] <DreadLindwyrm> I did suggest he poked twitter about and asked one of them about if they'd look at an idea.
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#148 [17:49] <NintendoGamerBoy> Sorry :C
#149 [17:50] <NintendoGamerBoy> I was just too mad...
#150 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> don't be sorry; be civil.
#151 [17:51] <Boreeas> NintendoGamerBoy: 1) there was no reason for you to be mad
#152 [17:51] <Boreeas> 2) To quote DopeGhoti, the forums are not official
#153 [17:51] <Boreeas> 3) getsatisfaction is the bugtracker used by mojang
#154 [17:51] <Boreeas> And also allows to submit suggestions
#155 [17:51] <DreadLindwyrm> It's not the worst idea ever. I rarely ever see a villager though, so I'd not have an NPC to trade with. In MP people set this sort of thing up themselves.
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#157 [17:55] <NintendoGamerBoy> Sorry, I meant just being a nub.
#158 [17:55] <NintendoGamerBoy> (sorry)
#159 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> don't be sorry; be well-behahed..
#160 [17:56] <|Kiichan|Schala|> i like the idea of it being official... but what woudl the currency be? and it would make it so people WOULDNT explore ionce finding this npc/shop
#161 [17:56] <|Kiichan|Schala|> thats a 180 from what they mentioned for the adventure update
#162 [17:58] <NintendoGamerBoy> What what?
#163 [17:59] <DreadLindwyrm> The adventure idea is to encourage people to go out and find things.
#164 [18:04] <NintendoGamerBoy> Anyone here know who Turtlesz13195 is?
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#166 [18:06] <NintendoGamerBoy> |Kiichan|Schala| Things would cost alot
#167 [18:06] <|Kiichan|Schala|> shops imply you can sell stuff.
#168 [18:07] <NintendoGamerBoy> Ok, so?
#169 [18:07] <Boreeas> I don't like the idea of a shop. The idea of minecraft is to gather ressources on your own, not buy and sell them
#170 [18:07] <NintendoGamerBoy> IDEA!
#171 [18:07] <NintendoGamerBoy> You can buy only 10 items per minecraft day
#172 [18:07] <Boreeas> Still too much
#173 [18:07] <NintendoGamerBoy> 5 items?
#174 [18:08] <Boreeas> No, it's the idea itself, not the limit
#175 [18:08] <NintendoGamerBoy> Oh
#176 [18:08] <Boreeas> But yeah, go ahead, make a mod that does that
#177 [18:08] <NintendoGamerBoy> Well if there was a limit, it would be better - and I can
#178 [18:09] <NintendoGamerBoy> *can
#179 [18:09] <NintendoGamerBoy> *can't make mods
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#181 [18:10] <clarjon1> heyo
#182 [18:10] <clarjon1> To fix a corrupted chunk, i should just load the world in mcedit and save, right?
#183 [18:10] <NintendoGamerBoy> Boreeas, I cannot make mods
#184 [18:10] <Wug> clarjon1: corrupt chunk might take a little more work than that
#185 [18:10] <Boreeas> NintendoGamerBoy: Got it the first time
#186 [18:10] <Wug> you may have to locate and remove the offending chunk
#187 [18:11] <clarjon1> Wug: :s
#188 [18:11] <NintendoGamerBoy> Boreeas: Good
#189 [18:11] <clarjon1> Wug: And how would i know if i need to do that, on a multiplayer server map?
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#192 [18:11] <Wug> clarjon1: describe exactly the symptoms of your issue
#193 [18:12] <clarjon1> Wug: one moment while i pastebin the error
#194 [18:12] <awesomeman> Ok, so I still get a black screen after logging into the client in Ubuntu.
#195 [18:12] <NintendoGamerBoy> Wug: I feel like you are like a doctor
#196 [18:12] <Wug> NintendoGamerBoy: so do I
#197 [18:12] <Wug> "symptoms" did it
#198 [18:13] <NintendoGamerBoy> Wug, QUOTE FROM WUG: "Symptoms" LOLOLOL
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#200 [18:13] <NintendoGamerBoy> Wug, I love how alot of ppl join, but never talk
#201 [18:13] <clarjon1> Wug: The server crashes hard when a user enters a specific area
#202 [18:14] <Wug> clarjon1: more details
#203 [18:14] <clarjon1> Wug: i'm trying to find the errors, but it looks like the log rotation script may have eaten them >.<
#204 [18:14] <Wug> can you reproduce them
#205 [18:15] * |Kiichan|Schala| blames insane number of mobs being loaded at the edge of region.
#205 [18:15] <NintendoGamerBoy> Wug: is there any free way to host a server without hamachi or crap like that?
#206 [18:15] <Wug> NintendoGamerBoy: forward ports
#207 [18:15] <clarjon1> NintendoGamerBoy: port forwarding
#208 [18:15] <|Kiichan|Schala|> NintendoGamerBoy: your computer, if you have a good connect
#209 [18:15] <|Kiichan|Schala|> NintendoGamerBoy: Goto http://goo.gl/DsVIL and click on your router model, skip the PFConfig Ad, and follow the instructions to set up port forwarding! :D
#210 [18:15] <Wug> double ninjad
#211 [18:16] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :speedtest > NintendoGamerBoy
#212 [18:16] <WugBot> NintendoGamerBoy: (speedtest) Could you please check connection speed ratings with http://www.speedtest.net/ ? Once done click "Share this result" then "Copy" and paste the link within the chat.
#213 [18:16] <NintendoGamerBoy> Wug, clarjon1, then what?
#214 [18:16] <|Kiichan|Schala|> !server
#215 [18:16] <NintendoGamerBoy> KII
#216 [18:16] <NintendoGamerBoy> I am not asking you
#217 [18:16] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :P
#218 [18:16] <|Kiichan|Schala|> fine... ignore me.
#219 [18:17] <Wug> NintendoGamerBoy: |Kiichan|Schala| is just as capable of helping
#220 [18:17] <NintendoGamerBoy> Wug: OK FINE
#221 [18:17] <NintendoGamerBoy> Kii
#222 [18:17] <Wug> I'm doing a project that is due in 6 hours
#223 [18:17] <NintendoGamerBoy> I have the server.ajr, now what?
#224 [18:17] <NintendoGamerBoy> *jar
#225 [18:17] <awesomeman> Good luck Wug!
#226 [18:17] <|Kiichan|Schala|> double ckick it.
#227 [18:18] <NintendoGamerBoy> It is open
#228 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> ??> NintendoGamerBoy smp/serversetup
#229 [18:18] <VoxelHead> NintendoGamerBoy: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#230 [18:18] <VoxelHead> NintendoGamerBoy: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#231 [18:18] <NintendoGamerBoy> DopeGhot: No.
#232 [18:18] <NintendoGamerBoy> *DOpeGhoti: No
#233 [18:19] <clarjon1> sheesh
#234 [18:19] <NintendoGamerBoy> !lua print("Why?"
#235 [18:19] <clarjon1> he wants help, but then doesn't want it
#236 [18:19] <NintendoGamerBoy> !lua print("Why?")
#237 [18:19] <NintendoGamerBoy> Fine, I will try that.
#238 [18:19] <NintendoGamerBoy> Fine, I will try that.
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#240 [18:20] <NintendoGamerBoy> Nvm, too much to do, thanks the Ghoti
#241 [18:20] <NintendoGamerBoy> *tho
#242 [18:20] <NintendoGamerBoy> Can some/one link me to a tutorial on making mods? I have tried searching, but cannot find anything
#243 [18:21] <NintendoGamerBoy> *someone
#244 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#245 [18:21] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#246 [18:21] <VoxelHead> mods: as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#247 [18:21] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ?find minecraft coder pack tutorial
#248 [18:21] <VoxelHead> minecraft isn't on this channel. If your trying to be funny, consider this a failure to impress me with your wit.
#249 [18:21] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ?find NintendoGamerBoy minecraft coder pack tutorial
#250 [18:21] <VoxelHead> NintendoGamerBoy, http://is.gd/gVzjM5
#251 [18:21] <NintendoGamerBoy> ty
#252 [18:22] <NintendoGamerBoy> IDIOT
#253 [18:22] <NintendoGamerBoy> Sorry
#254 [18:22] <NintendoGamerBoy> Dude, I said I tried searching.
#255 [18:22] <|Kiichan|Schala|> then you failed?
#256 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> Try reading the pages you find when you search.
#257 [18:22] <NintendoGamerBoy> I did, don't be a smartbutt.
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#259 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> ?? attitude
#260 [18:23] <VoxelHead> attitude: The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#261 [18:23] <VoxelHead> attitude: In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#262 [18:23] <|Kiichan|Schala|> damn.. ninjaed by a fish
#263 [18:23] <Wug> a dope fish no less
#264 [18:23] <NintendoGamerBoy> Sorry, jeez
#265 [18:23] <NintendoGamerBoy> I do not kno the rules here.
#266 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> Read them
#267 [18:23] <Wug> they're in the topic
#268 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 1
#269 [18:23] <Wug> you have no excuse not to
#270 [18:23] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 1 = Rules: http://is.gd/zB1w9I ] ... set by [ Wug | Fri Jan 27 10:30:07 MST 2012 ]
#271 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> Ignorance of the rules is no excuse for violating them.
#272 [18:24] <Wug> especially because they're the first thing you see when you join
#273 [18:24] <Wug> I suggest you read them now
#274 [18:24] <Wug> because if you continue not following them, I'll put you on vacation
#275 [18:26] <NintendoGamerBoy> WIll someone here forward me to a place that helps with mods
#276 [18:26] <NintendoGamerBoy> Please?
#277 [18:26] <Wug> I'm not sure
#278 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> WE already tried to.
#279 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> ??>> NintendoGamerBoy mods
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#281 [18:26] <Wug> even if we did, you'd probably just not read the rules and get yourself banned within 5 minutes
#282 [18:26] <|Kiichan|Schala|> NintendoGamerBoy: join #mcp
#283 [18:26] * |Kiichan|Schala| waits for them to ban him.
#283 [18:26] <NintendoGamerBoy> DopeGhoti (Quote: #minecrafthelp cannot guarantee support or compatibility with or for client or server modifications, and may ask you when troubleshooting to remove any mods or texture packs, as this has demonstrably proven to be a solution to myriad problems. It is too difficult to diagnose the many issues with mods. You can ask to be forwarded to a place for support with mods.)
#284 [18:27] <NintendoGamerBoy> |Kiichan|Schala| Thanks!
#285 [18:28] <clarjon1> Wug: We've opened the map in mcedit, and chunks are not appearing in the Proper Locations
#286 [18:28] <clarjon1> Wug: It's like some areas are a deck of cards that's been shuffled.
#287 [18:28] <clarjon1> others, completely fine.
#288 [18:28] <Wug> clarjon1: yeah, that sounds like map corruption
#289 [18:29] <Wug> also, is the server actually crashing, or is it just spamming 'wrong location' errors to the logs
#290 [18:29] <clarjon1> Wug: Crashing
#291 [18:29] <clarjon1> thwoign java errors
#292 [18:29] <Wug> because 'wrong location' isnt actually a crash, its a hang that, given enough time, will proably resolve itself
#293 [18:29] <clarjon1> and then preventing any incoming connections.
#294 [18:29] <Wug> care to share the errors
#295 [18:29] <Wug> thats what I meant by details
#296 [18:30] <clarjon1> i'm looking for the logs, but it looks like one of the other admins was 'helpful' and renamed it -_-
#297 [18:30] <Wug> ls
#298 [18:31] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ls -alh
#299 [18:31] <clarjon1> pastebinning
#300 [18:31] <clarjon1> http://paste.kde.org/195914
#301 [18:32] <Wug> 2012-01-29 10:39:30 [SEVERE] Chunk (-47, 25) stored at (-48, 31) in world 'world'
#302 [18:32] <Wug> chunks are out of place, as you noticed
#303 [18:32] * Magiobiwan is back (gone 14:28:47)
#303 [18:33] <Wug> the fix for this is well known, unfortunately, its not in bukkit because I dont know why
#304 [18:33] <clarjon1> What's the fix?
#305 [18:34] <Wug> the reason the server does not recover from this is because of a bug in one line of the code responsible for reading chunks
#306 [18:34] <clarjon1> ack.
#307 [18:34] <clarjon1> lovely.
#308 [18:34] <Wug> this line determines, from the chunk data itself, the correct location of the chunk
#309 [18:34] <Wug> and then proceeds to write the new location to the wrong part of the nbt structure
#310 [18:34] <clarjon1> Again, what's the fix?
#311 [18:35] <Wug> you'd have to fix the line
#312 [18:35] <clarjon1> ah.
#313 [18:35] <Wug> I personally think bukkit is bleck
#314 [18:35] <|Kiichan|Schala|> bleckkit!
#315 [18:35] <Wug> for this exact reason, pretty much
#316 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> mmm, vanilla.
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#318 [18:36] <Wug> their devs are online constantly and anyone can talk to them, but bugs like this have been present for months
#319 [18:36] <|Kiichan|Schala|> van[L]a?
#320 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> ??> |Kiichan|Schala| vanilla
#321 [18:36] <VoxelHead> |Kiichan|Schala|: (vanilla) vanilla (adj.): Bland; original; with no garnish. In the context of Minecraft, a server or client with no mods, skins, texture packs, or other customizations.
#322 [18:36] <Wug> vanilla is affected too, if jeb is on at all ever, I think I'm going to attack him about it
#323 [18:36] <Wug> again
#324 [18:36] * |Kiichan|Schala| is being a derp
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#330 [18:49] <Wug> clarjon1: I yelled at them
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#332 [18:49] <Wug> I will continue yelling later
#333 [18:49] <Wug> but hopefully, they will actually fix the goddamn bug
#334 [18:49] <clarjon1> Wug: I'm gonna yell at 'em too!
#335 [18:49] <clarjon1> :#
#336 [18:49] <clarjon1> :3
#337 [18:49] <Wug> in the meantime, open mcedit, pull up the menu, pick world info, and choose repair regions
#338 [18:50] <Wug> I believe this will at least help, I'm not sure it will fix it
#339 [18:50] <clarjon1> ty kindly, wug :)
#340 [18:50] <clarjon1> ty kindly, wug :)
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#351 [19:33] <awesomeman> I did some research and found that my issues with minecraft in Ubuntu should be solved by updating the game engine. How would I go around doing this?
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#355 [19:40] <Adrion> hey
#356 [19:41] <Adrion> what do i do now that this popped up?
#357 [19:41] <Adrion> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 1/29/12 4:38 PM Minecraft: Minecraft 1.1 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.6.0_30, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 OpenGL: GeForce 6150SE nForce 430/PCI/SSE2 version 2.1.2, NVIDIA Corporation java.lang.NullPointerException at java
#358 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> ??> awesomeman forceupdate
#359 [19:43] <VoxelHead> awesomeman: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#360 [19:43] <VoxelHead> awesomeman: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#361 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> Adrion: what were you doing what that error occurred?
#362 [19:43] <Adrion> okay i'll try that
#363 [19:44] <awesomeman> one mometn Voxel
#364 [19:44] <Adrion> it happened right after it updated to 1.1
#365 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> Adrion: any mods installed?
#366 [19:44] <Adrion> no
#367 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> Adrion: I'd check also for updated GPU drivers.
#368 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> ??> Adrion gpu/nvidia
#369 [19:45] <VoxelHead> Adrion: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#370 [19:46] <awesomeman> Didn't work
#371 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> awesomeman: which version of Java have you got installed?
#372 [19:47] <awesomeman> OpenJDK 6 and 7
#373 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> definitely don't use 7
#374 [19:47] <awesomeman> that would be my problem
#375 [19:47] <Adrion> 6.1
#376 [19:47] <awesomeman> :D It works
#377 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> you might have luck with trying sun-jre6 if openjdk doesn't work
#378 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> \o/
#379 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> Glad to be of service!
#380 [19:48] <Adrion> i'm still having problems meanwhile
#381 [19:48] <awesomeman> I can finally play Minecraft on my own computers!
#382 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> ??> Adrion win/reinst
#383 [19:48] <VoxelHead> Adrion: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#384 [19:48] <VoxelHead> Adrion: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#385 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> awesomeman: happy crafting, sir!
#386 [19:49] <Adrion> okay...
#387 [19:49] <awesomeman> Wait, now its stuck on the Mojang Splash screen D:
#388 [19:49] <awesomeman> I'll give it a bit to make sure its not just taking a while to load
#389 [19:50] <awesomeman> Just to be sure I'm not wasting my time, a 1.8 ghz processor and half a gig of ram are adequate, right?
#390 [19:51] <awesomeman> ok it loaded
#391 [19:52] <Adrion> i uninstalled/reinstalled java recently would this have anything to do with my problem?
#392 [19:52] <Adrion> nevermind i'm working now thanks!
#393 [19:53] <Adrion> i mean minecraft is working now <.< >.>
#394 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> awesomeman: ½GiB is a bit low.
#395 [19:53] <Adrion> bye now
#396 [19:53] <awesomeman> I know its low
#397 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> It does allocate 1GiB on startup after all
#398 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> Adrion: have fun!
#399 [19:53] <awesomeman> but it was a 10 dollar desktop my school sold me
#400 [19:54] <awesomeman> But is it enough?
#401 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> awesomeman: might be worth investing anouther $15 or so in another GiB of RAM
#402 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> it'll run, but slowly. Be sure you have a couple gigs of swap, at least.
#403 [19:54] <awesomeman> alright
#404 [19:55] <awesomeman> I literally baught it only for minecraft, because my main laptop doesn't work to well with java.
#405 [19:55] <awesomeman> *bought
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#407 [20:07] <awesomeman> can I use a flashdrive as ram, or is that only in Windows?
#408 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> You can put a swap file onto a flash drive, yes, but it will be _very_ slow to write to.
#409 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> (as with Windows; it's a hardware limitation)
#410 [20:08] <awesomeman> ok :/
#411 [20:08] <awesomeman> I looked online, and ram for this computer is 15 dollars used
#412 [20:09] <awesomeman> Will is still show an improvement?
#413 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> Huh. $15 was a good guess, sight-unseen.
#414 [20:09] <awesomeman> a bit less
#415 [20:09] <awesomeman> its 30 dollars new
#416 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> Upgrading RAM will fantastically increase the performance of your computer.
#417 [20:09] <awesomeman> Oh, I know it will
#418 [20:09] <awesomeman> I'm just cheap
#419 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> I figured (:
#420 [20:10] <awesomeman> I AM 16 without a job, after all... Oh well, I suppose I can fork over another 15 bucks
#421 [20:17] <awesomeman> Will 1 gig be sufficient?
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#423 [20:25] <FiFiTiDo> #dick
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#425 [20:28] <langkid1> does anyone wanna see the page I made that lists the snapshots?
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#427 [20:29] <Predictability> hi.
#428 [20:29] <Predictability> I need some help with a multi-player server...
#429 [20:29] <Predictability> I need some help with a multi-player server...
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#431 [20:29] <langkid1> yes?
#432 [20:30] <langkid1> ?? ask
#433 [20:30] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#434 [20:30] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#435 [20:30] <Predictability> I've made my minecraft server and all, but then I can't connect to it.
#436 [20:30] <langkid1> is the server on the same PC as you?
#437 [20:30] <Predictability> I think so
#438 [20:30] <langkid1> ...
#439 [20:31] <langkid1> what IP are you using, you should be using "localhost" or "127.0.0.1"
#440 [20:31] <langkid1> (to connect to the server)
#441 [20:31] <Predictability> what do you mean?
#442 [20:31] <langkid1> like, the IP, under Server Address
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#444 [20:32] <Predictability> I don't know what you mean, sorry...
#445 [20:32] <langkid1> I'll take a pic for you
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#447 [20:34] <langkid1> http://i.imgur.com/e1ZPQ.png
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#449 [20:34] <Predictability> ok
#450 [20:34] <night98> help i can chat on minecraft
#451 [20:34] <night98> cant
#452 [20:35] <Predictability> the server IP is 5.41.34.73, is that what you need?
#453 [20:36] <langkid1> night98, press T
#454 [20:36] <langkid1> (multiplayer only!_
#455 [20:36] <langkid1> Predictability, hamachi?
#456 [20:36] <Predictability> Yeah
#457 [20:36] <night98> i di but no one anwsers
#458 [20:37] <langkid1> night98, does your text come back to you? Like do you see something like "<yourname> blah blah, some text that you just typed"
#459 [20:37] <night98> yes
#460 [20:37] <langkid1> Predictability, make sure you got the port right
#461 [20:37] <Predictability> what do you mean?
#462 [20:37] <langkid1> night98, maybe no one wants to reply? As long as the message you just typed comes back in that way it's working
#463 [20:38] <night98> ok
#464 [20:38] <langkid1> Predictability, the server could be on a different internet port on that machine, ask the owner of the machine or consult the web page you got it off of
#465 [20:38] <Predictability> uhh, what do you mean consult the web page?
#466 [20:39] <langkid1> like, if you got that IP off a web page
#467 [20:39] <langkid1> did you?
#468 [20:39] <Predictability> no, I made the server
#469 [20:39] <langkid1> did you edit the port setting in server.PROPERTIES?
#470 [20:39] <Predictability> but when I try to join it, it says "Outdated Server!"
#471 [20:39] <langkid1> oh why didn't you just say that! :|
#472 [20:39] <Predictability> Sorry :/
#473 [20:39] <GV> Then you're running an outdated version of the server
#474 [20:40] <langkid1> yeah
#475 [20:40] <GV> Redownload the server from minecraft.net/download
#476 [20:40] <langkid1> update
#477 [20:42] <Predictability> I redownloaded it, but it still says Outdated Server...
#478 [20:43] <GV> When you run the server, what does the first line say?
#479 [20:43] <Predictability> what do you mean?
#480 [20:43] <GV> Does a server console pop up when you run the server?
#481 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> ah
#482 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> I see the problem, Predictability
#483 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> ??> Predictability fubar/hamachi
#484 [20:44] <VoxelHead> Predictability: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#485 [20:44] <VoxelHead> Predictability: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#486 [20:44] <GV> Bleh, hamachi
#487 [20:44] <Predictability> what's a VPN?
#488 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> ?find Predictability VPN
#489 [20:44] <VoxelHead> Predictability, http://is.gd/GSqDFo
#490 [20:46] <Predictability> do I download the VPN?
#491 [20:46] <DopeGhoti> you as the server operator and each client who wishes to connect would have to set it up.
#492 [20:46] <DopeGhoti> It's much more straightforward just to set up IP Masquerading (aka port forwarding).
#493 [20:47] <Predictability> ok, well, I'll keep trying...
#494 [20:47] <Predictability> bye.
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#497 [20:51] <awesomeman> Since I can't use my desktop, I need some help getting it to work on my laptop. When I try to launch the client, nothing happens, and I get a white screen when I try to launch it on the website.
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#499 [20:53] <xbonesx> are there any other prerequisites to installing mine craft other than java 6?
#500 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> ??> xbonesx requirements/lessrude
#501 [20:54] <VoxelHead> xbonesx: (requirements/lessrude) 1.5GiB of RAM (3 GiB if you want to run the server and client at the same time), a 2.4GHz or so per core CPU, and if you expect the world to get rather big, 100MB or so of hard drive space.
#502 [20:54] <VoxelHead> xbonesx: (requirements/lessrude) A server will use a lot of bandwidth, _per player_ because the world is in a constant state of flux.
#503 [20:54] <xbonesx> for some reason it acts like it is going to start but I get a hang error after i force the program closed?
#504 [20:55] <xbonesx> says that the java binary errored ive reinstalled java twice
#505 [20:56] <DopeGhoti> xbonesx: which version of Java?
#506 [20:57] <xbonesx> ive tried java 6 30 and java 7 currently trying on 6.
#507 [21:01] <awesomeman> Minecraft won't load the client, and I get a white screen when I attempt to run it in my browser
#508 [21:02] <DopeGhoti> ??> awesomeman specs
#509 [21:02] <VoxelHead> awesomeman: (specs) Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#510 [21:03] <awesomeman> Toshiba l505d with Windows 7 32 bit, 3 gigs of ram, a AMD 4100 series gpu and Java 7, but I had the same problem with Java 6
#511 [21:03] <DopeGhoti> well, definitely do not use Java 7
#512 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> ?? java/1.7
#513 [21:04] <VoxelHead> java/1.7: Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#514 [21:04] <awesomeman> How would I downgrade?
#515 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> ??> awesomeman win/reinst
#516 [21:04] <VoxelHead> awesomeman: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#517 [21:04] <VoxelHead> awesomeman: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#518 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> By uninstalling 1.7 and reinstalling 1.6u30
#519 [21:05] <awesomeman> I don't have a .minecraft directory for some reason
#520 [21:08] <xbonesx> AppHangB1 <--- problem event name
#521 [21:10] <awesomeman> How can I download a .minecraft folder?
#522 [21:12] <Wug> you do not
#523 [21:12] <Wug> :dx
#524 [21:12] <WugBot> dx: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#525 [21:12] <WugBot> dx: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#530 [21:16] <awesomeman> I still get a white screen after going back to Java 1.6
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#532 [21:17] <awesomeman> How do I get a .minecraft folder?
#533 [21:18] <Wug> :dx > awesomeman
#534 [21:18] <WugBot> awesomeman: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#535 [21:18] <WugBot> awesomeman: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#536 [21:21] <awesomeman> http://pastebin.com/gyYJsmF1
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#538 [21:22] <I3eacon> OK, so minecraft suddenly decided to stop working and is giving me a crashed error message when I try to log in. Several mods installed, all of them working just fine until spontaneously they weren't.
#539 [21:23] <DopeGhoti> ??> I3eacon forceupdate
#540 [21:23] <VoxelHead> I3eacon: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#541 [21:23] <VoxelHead> I3eacon: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#542 [21:24] <I3eacon> That's cool, but I did that and reinstalled the mods and I'm still having the problem.
#543 [21:25] <DopeGhoti> so clearly it's the mods
#544 [21:25] <I3eacon> Yes.
#545 [21:25] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#546 [21:25] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#547 [21:25] <VoxelHead> mods: as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#548 [21:25] <I3eacon> The mods were working fine, though.
#549 [21:26] <I3eacon> But alright, thanks for your total dissmissal.
#550 [21:26] <DopeGhoti> Yes, but of Minecraft is working without the mods, then the mods are the problem and it's out of our hands
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#553 [21:26] <awesomeman> so any idea what is causing my issues?
#554 [21:26] <DopeGhoti> Is it just me, or are peophe who use IceChat less willing to listen than others?
#555 [21:26] <xbonesx> did a restart still no luck
#556 [21:27] <awesomeman> I use Opera.
#557 [21:27] <DopeGhoti> I wasn't talking about you, awesomeman
#558 [21:28] <awesomeman> I know
#559 [21:28] <awesomeman> Just sayin'
#560 [21:28] <DopeGhoti> heh
#561 [21:28] <DopeGhoti> ??> awesomeman win/profile
#562 [21:28] <VoxelHead> awesomeman: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#563 [21:28] <VoxelHead> awesomeman: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#565 [21:29] <awesomeman> I have used Minecraft on 3 other computers.
#566 [21:29] <DopeGhoti> same problem on all three?
#567 [21:29] <awesomeman> Only this one
#568 [21:29] <awesomeman> Its my best computer too.
#569 [21:30] <DopeGhoti> okay, so… on the computer exhibing problems, follos VoxelHead's recent instructions.
#570 [21:30] <awesomeman> alright
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#572 [21:31] <awesomeman> Can I use a guest account?
#573 [21:32] <DopeGhoti> It'd be best to create a brand new, and thus known to be clean, profile
#574 [21:32] <awesomeman> alright
#575 [21:32] <awesomeman> alright
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#579 [21:41] <awesomeman> Alright, so it works fine on this new account
#580 [21:44] <DopeGhoti> Then there is something on your normal account that's getting in the way. Try closing other programs and utilities until you find the culprit.
#581 [21:46] <awesomeman> I need to go right now.
#582 [21:47] <awesomeman> Thanks though. I'm one step closer to finding the problem!
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#584 [21:49] <xbonesx> still cant figure out why my java is crashing...
#585 [21:52] <xbonesx> i dont know what else to try.... :(
#586 [21:52] <Wug> DopeGhoti: awesomeman probably had the ! bug
#587 [21:53] <Wug> if he didnt have a .minecraft folder, its possible he had installed the workaround and forgot
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#590 [22:06] <xbonesx> java binary error help please
#591 [22:07] <Wug> xbonesx: can you tell us exactly what the error says
#592 [22:08] <xbonesx> one moment
#593 [22:10] <xbonesx> http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/450/capturethv.png
#594 [22:11] <Wug> does this happen before logging in, immediately after, or some other time
#595 [22:13] <xbonesx> the minute i click login the minecraft window freezes. when i "end task" the operation i get that message. also when i look in the applications tab the the manager it says its running
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#597 [22:14] <xbonesx> yesterday it did this too, and then suddenly it didnt, this morning i restored from a acronis backup and now its doing it gaain
#598 [22:15] <Wug> have you tried reinstalling java
#599 [22:15] <xbonesx> several time with differnet versions
#600 [22:15] <xbonesx> 6 and 7
#601 [22:15] <xbonesx> same issue with both
#602 [22:17] <Wug> can you do it again, and copy everything in the "problem signature" box, and pastebin it
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#604 [22:18] <xbonesx> http://mibpaste.com/HckK3G
#605 [22:18] <sproing> Hi, I bought Minecraft recently, but when I tried to play it, the screen freezed and made everthing else slower when the Mojang logo came up. Help!
#606 [22:20] <sproing> hello?
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#608 [22:21] <Wug> mib_17r4jh: dont do that
#609 [22:21] <mib_17r4jh> Hm?
#610 [22:21] <Wug> just wait for a while, you dont have to hop in and out every 5 seconds
#611 [22:21] <mib_17r4jh> oh, sorry.
#612 [22:22] <mib_17r4jh> So, can you help?
#613 [22:25] <Wug> sorry, was distracted
#614 [22:25] <Wug> probably, ill need more details though
#615 [22:25] <mib_17r4jh> Ok.
#616 [22:25] <Wug> please do this:
#617 [22:25] <Wug> :dx
#618 [22:25] <WugBot> dx: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#619 [22:25] <WugBot> dx: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#620 [22:25] <xbonesx> http://mibpaste.com/HckK3G
#621 [22:26] <Wug> :dx > xbonesx
#622 [22:26] <WugBot> xbonesx: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#623 [22:26] <WugBot> xbonesx: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#624 [22:26] <mib_17r4jh> ok, hold on
#625 [22:26] <mib_17r4jh> Win key?
#626 [22:27] <Wug> mib_17r4jh: you are on windows, right
#627 [22:27] <Wug> not a mac or something
#628 [22:27] <Wug> :win/key
#629 [22:27] <WugBot> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#630 [22:27] <xbonesx> http://mibpaste.com/ezX2J6
#631 [22:27] <mib_17r4jh> oh, right
#632 [22:27] <mib_17r4jh> i dont have that, im on an IBM thinkpad. does that make a difference?
#633 [22:27] <Wug> xbonesx: do you have 64 bit java
#634 [22:28] <mib_17r4jh> yes
#635 [22:28] <mib_17r4jh> oh, never mind, not me
#636 [22:28] <Wug> mib_17r4jh: if im talking to you ill use your name
#637 [22:28] <Wug> yeah
#638 [22:28] <mib_17r4jh> sorry
#639 [22:28] <Wug> start menu -> "dxdiag"
#640 [22:28] <Wug> proceed from there
#641 [22:28] <mib_17r4jh> k
#642 [22:28] <xbonesx> yessir
#643 [22:29] <Wug> xbonesx: get teamviewer, ill look at it
#644 [22:29] <Wug> no guarantees ill be able to fix it though
#645 [22:31] <xbonesx> thanks anyways. ive wasted too much time trying to get it to work as it is, i need to finish other things
#646 [22:33] <mib_17r4jh> Almost done saving
#647 [22:35] <Wug> xbonesx: if you get teamviewer, ill look at it
#648 [22:35] <Wug> if its something dumb that im overlooking i can probably have it fixed in a few minutes
#649 [22:35] <Wug> also, has it ever worked before
#650 [22:35] <xbonesx> yes
#651 [22:36] <xbonesx> it did this yesterday when i first installed it too. im not sure what i did either to get it too work, but recovered using an acronis image and now its doing it again
#652 [22:36] <Wug> yeah, you did say it had just recently stopped
#653 [22:36] <Wug> :tv
#654 [22:36] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#655 [22:36] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#656 [22:37] <mib_17r4jh> Hey it works now. thx for the help man. i appreciate it alot!
#657 [22:37] <xbonesx> ya i have teamviewer but i have not been able to purchase the game yet...
#658 [22:37] <Wug> mib_17r4jh: uhh
#659 [22:38] <Wug> dxdiag is a data gathering step
#660 [22:38] <mib_17r4jh> i know, i dont know what happened either
#661 [22:38] <Wug> shouldnt actually make it start working :/
#662 [22:38] <Wug> but whatever
#663 [22:42] <Wug> xbonesx: ... youre supposed to ask for help after you buy it
#664 [22:43] <Wug> games that are loaded with drm work better when you crack them
#665 [22:43] <Wug> minecraft is not loaded with drm
#666 [22:43] <xbonesx> i know... :/
#667 [22:43] <xbonesx> believe me or not, i am going to buy the game i just dont have the money yet
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#669 [22:43] <xbonesx> waiting on taxes
#670 [22:44] <xbonesx> them im buying two copies one for me and one for my gf
#671 [22:44] <Wug> come ask for help when you have bought it
#672 [22:44] <xbonesx> was hoping to troubleshoot it without that getting brought into the matter but its likely the reason it isnt working
#673 [22:46] <Wug> probably
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