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#7 [01:12] <josh23> hello?
#8 [01:12] <josh23> anybody know why i cant spawn a ender dragon with a egg on my server?
#9 [01:12] <Wug> is it bukkit
#10 [01:12] <Wug> it has been disabled in bukkit
#11 [01:12] <josh23> yes
#12 [01:12] <Wug> ask about it in #bukkit
#13 [01:12] <josh23> ah damnit anyway of reenable it?
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#15 [01:14] <josh23> how do i join bukkit channel?
#16 [01:17] <Wug> how did you join this channel
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#39 [06:07] <adde> hello?
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#42 [06:11] <adde> how do you make a server without hamachi?
#43 [06:12] <CaelThunderwing> Port Forward and run minecraft_server.exe.
#44 [06:12] <CaelThunderwing> wow
#45 [06:12] <CaelThunderwing> didnt wait long
#46 [06:15] <CaelThunderwing> Anyway... got a strange case, my Mate, just got her new pc built and setup, , has rather Nice Specs, cpu idles at an acceptable 34C,
#47 [06:15] <CaelThunderwing> second she gets on a server in MC. lag spike, cpu temp Shoots to 90C and MC crashes
#48 [06:16] <CaelThunderwing> the specs are @ http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2224903
#49 [06:16] <CaelThunderwing> second MC is closed out (kill process) everythings fine :/
#50 [06:19] <CaelThunderwing> Something's funny at work somewhere as i'm able to keep MC stable @22fps on an IBM Thinkcentre 8183 (which is known for Overheating )
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#53 [06:43] <AureliusM> CaelThunderwing: cpu temp Shoots to 90C? That's unusual. Not GPU? My nVidia card temp reaches 90 but my CPU stays mostly around 40. Fan broken maybe?
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#55 [06:44] <Cael|ZzZzZ> CPU yes
#56 [06:44] <Cael|ZzZzZ> its an Unlocked FX 8Core AMD
#57 [06:45] <Cael|ZzZzZ> http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2224903
#58 [06:45] <Cael|ZzZzZ> its w/ the Stock Sink/Fan
#59 [06:45] <Cael|ZzZzZ> but stock thermal compund was Artic Silver
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#61 [06:47] <Cael|ZzZzZ> thing is its ONLY w/ Minecraft.
#62 [06:48] <Cael|ZzZzZ> No Mods, no hacked clients,. Just straight up 1.1 Vanilla
#63 [06:48] <AureliusM> Cael|ZzZzZ: No idea about CPUs, all I do is watch the temps of CPU and GPU of my old HP Pavillion media center. Does CPU temp up with single player and also with Fast graphics? Is GPU control set to allow it to run with java? Maybe the CPU has to do all the graphic work instead?
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#65 [06:49] <Cael|ZzZzZ> its happening the moment she gets to the Mode section.
#66 [06:49] <Cael|ZzZzZ> by the time it gets on an SMP server or SP,
#67 [06:49] <Cael|ZzZzZ> Crash ..
#68 [06:52] <Cael|ZzZzZ> no Error window it straight out does the Windows 7 "XXXXX Has Stoped Responding" bs
#69 [06:52] <AureliusM> Cael|ZzZzZ: Get herto monitor the GPU load. But Minecraft does use 100% CPU at the title and menu pages. That CPU might need throttling to prevent it "over-revving" so to speak.
#70 [06:56] <Cael|ZzZzZ> sent her a message , (thinking she took it offline to try something
#71 [06:57] <AureliusM> Cael|ZzZzZ: My Athlon 5000 dual core is no comparison with your mate's, but I'm testing mine now: MC at title=CPU 88% 45 deg C; GPU 63 deg C; motherboard sensors 38 and 25 deg C.
#72 [06:58] <Cael|ZzZzZ> and just glad my IBM ThinkCentre runs cooler that i got a "PCI Slot" Cooler fan (the kind that take up a PCI slot but vent outwards)
#73 [06:58] <Cael|ZzZzZ> and yea on my Athlon 64 X2 4800 + averages 78% @ Main screen
#74 [06:58] <AureliusM> Cael|ZzZzZ: My MC now at Options=CPU 97% 49 deg C; GPU 67 deg C; motherboard sensors 43 and 25 deg C.
#75 [07:00] <Cael|ZzZzZ> but yea i need sleep stayed up late to stress test this IBM to make sure it runs cooler
#76 [07:00] <AureliusM> Cael|ZzZzZ: As soon as I enter a world GPU temp drops to 65 deg, CPU to 72% 49 deg C; motherboard sensors 41 and 25 deg C.
#77 [07:01] <Cael|ZzZzZ> the 8183 3.0ghz P4's are know and acknowlaged by IBM/Lenovo for overheating
#78 [07:01] <Cael|ZzZzZ> but i passed on your adice on voicemail to her and an offline message
#79 [07:03] <AureliusM> Cael|ZzZzZ: Keep your nick in this channel, maybe someone else will have more suggestions. I just tested multiplayer and saw no difference in temperatures from Single player. Graphics set to Fast and advanced OpenGL off.
#80 [07:04] <Cael|ZzZzZ> i do if i sign off the ibm Overheated.
#81 [07:04] <Cael|ZzZzZ> or Auto Update restart
#82 [07:04] <Cael|ZzZzZ> (fresh install of XxP )
#83 [07:04] <Cael|ZzZzZ> *XP
#84 [07:05] <AureliusM> I just leave my tower PC running, only re-boot once a week. I used to have overheating laptops, but fed up with their poor reliability.
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#94 [08:11] <Dylan> hi guys
#95 [08:17] <Dylan> I'm singing Still Alive then adding the music in the background, then upload to Youtube.
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#124 [11:08] <SuperNoodles> Hello?
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#126 [11:13] <SuperNoodles> Yes it worked!
#127 [11:13] <SuperNoodles> Thanks Guys!:D
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#130 [11:19] <jenni> can newbie ask a question? :((
#131 [11:20] <Cryophile> just ask and someone will answer if they can
#132 [11:21] <jenni> I can't make Iron Furnace in the game :( (apparently it's part of the Industrial Craft and not Minecraft itself)
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#134 [11:21] <jenni> found two recipes for it, neither works
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#148 [12:15] <Kaito> is string useful for anything besides fishing poles and bows?
#149 [12:15] <Omega_Guardian> wool
#150 [12:15] <Omega_Guardian> 4 string for one piece of white wool
#151 [12:15] <Kaito> hm...alright
#152 [12:15] <Kaito> I have 61, and i need to get rid of it >_>
#153 [12:16] <Omega_Guardian> use shears on spider webs for mass amounts of wool least going by the amounts I found last time I played
#154 [12:16] <Kaito> and they still havent made it so that bone meal can bleach wool >_>
#155 [12:17] <Omega_Guardian> no recipes for making netherrack or whatever it's called now into anything else
#156 [12:18] <Kaito> i personally think netherrack should be able to be used in furnaces
#157 [12:18] <Kaito> but thats just me
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#167 [13:10] <nefa> hello people, i think its a common problem: i bought minecraft beta, i was able to play until release, now it says User not premium, contacting mojant it asks for order it, which they didnt give to me, i only have 2 confirmation emails from moneybookers, what to do?
#168 [13:11] <nefa> and it was clearly written that beta players would have kept playing after release
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#172 [13:19] <Omega_Guardian> try doing a forced update? or maybe one of the minecraft server things is broke again
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#188 [15:21] <OdnsRvns> anyone on
#189 [15:21] <22BAAAHKC> yes
#190 [15:22] <22BAAAHKC> and you dont have to say the name of a channel to join it
#191 [15:22] <OdnsRvns> wow been a while since ive been in IRC
#192 [15:22] <22BAAAHKC> you can use /join
#193 [15:22] <OdnsRvns> thanks
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#195 [15:22] <OdnsRvns> i had acouple questions maybe you all can help
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#198 [15:23] <OdnsRvns> is thier a way to change a players spawn point as an op if they are not on the server
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#200 [15:24] <GV> Hmm, nope
#201 [15:24] <OdnsRvns> i've googles all i can think of and no luck thought id try here
#202 [15:26] <OdnsRvns> second question is thier a place i can go to request a plugin beside the forum.
#203 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> plugin for bukkit, try #bukkit or #bukkitdev
#204 [15:26] <OdnsRvns> will try grey thanks
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#213 [15:47] <tekutaku> Hi guys. Has anyone come across the NullPointerException after re-starting minecraft while over thousand experience balls (?) are floating on the screen?
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#219 [16:08] <sudormrf> Hi! I want to find the cheapest netbook I can and my benchmark is being able to run minecraft as smoothly as possible. Here's what I am looking at: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-IdeaPad-netbook-1-66GHz-Premium/dp/B0030SXVEG/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1328043960&sr=1-5
#220 [16:09] <sudormrf> I'd like to spend under 200 quid, but I don't know if that is possible.
#221 [16:09] <Grim_Reaper> Im not good with netbooks. though personally, I would not recommend one for games. Even minecraft
#222 [16:09] <andrewxios> got almost the same can barely run minecraft with opticraft
#223 [16:09] <Grim_Reaper> netbooks aren't made for games to be honest
#224 [16:10] <Omega_Guardian> netbooks are infamously ...well, crap. Like e-books but lucky if they could even play a standard dvd file decent
#225 [16:10] <sudormrf> Fine, a laptop <12 inches ... whatever you want to call it.
#226 [16:11] <andrewxios> there are some good netbooks too which can run minecraft smooth, but they cost alot
#227 [16:11] <sudormrf> I need a laptop/ notebook / netbook / whatever that's ultra portable for graduate school, but I want to be able to run minecraft well.
#228 [16:12] <Grim_Reaper> I dont even think that lenovo has even a simple video card that would run minecraft o.o
#229 [16:12] <andrewxios> sony vaio laptop?
#230 [16:12] <Grim_Reaper> Or least I dont see any info on the site link
#231 [16:12] <sudormrf> The one above has 2 gigs of ram and a "decent" intel atom processor, but yeah.... the video card might be a problem.
#232 [16:12] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah
#233 [16:13] <22BAAAHKC> video card is important
#234 [16:13] <Grim_Reaper> I doubt that one you're looking at will come even close for minecraft
#235 [16:13] <Grim_Reaper> You need to find one with a decent video card with some dedicated memory
#236 [16:14] <Grim_Reaper> Personally you might be better off with a laptop than a netbook if you can afford a few extra bits of cash
#237 [16:14] <Grim_Reaper> Wug why the odd name ?
#238 [16:15] <sudormrf> I really want to keep it under 300 quid, I already have an alienware M15x, but it is just so damned HUGE and incovenient to lug around.
#239 [16:16] <Omega_Guardian> try Optifine? I never heard of Opticraft
#240 [16:17] <Grim_Reaper> I think you could get a decent laptop for under 300 quid
#241 [16:17] <Grim_Reaper> Sure it wont be all wow awesome gaming. But it should run minecraft ok.
#242 [16:17] <Grim_Reaper> Not sure where to point you though
#243 [16:18] <sudormrf> Grim_Reaper: I know, right.... I just can't find anything! My wife has an acer aspire that is about the size I'm looking for (11"), and it runs minecraft fine with low settings....
#244 [16:18] <sudormrf> But I am seriously at a loss here.
#245 [16:19] <Cryophile> Take a look at the ASUS 1215N
#246 [16:19] <Cryophile> or perhaps a more recent model
#247 [16:19] <Grim_Reaper> Can you not maybe get something similar to your wife's?
#248 [16:19] <Cryophile> I had that netbook, and it was quite amazing
#249 [16:20] <sudormrf> Grim_Reaper: I can't seem to find it on amazon.
#250 [16:20] <Cryophile> It should be around your price range as well
#251 [16:20] <Cryophile> or it was when I got mine at least
#252 [16:21] <andrewxios> idk much about it but take a look at this http://www.amazon.com/HP-311-1025NR-11-6-Inch-Black-Netbook/dp/B002R5AT6Q/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1328044869&sr=1-5
#253 [16:23] <sudormrf> Will it choke with a Intel Atom N270 Processor?
#254 [16:23] <Grim_Reaper> It would run it. But not too great
#255 [16:23] <Grim_Reaper> But yeah. That I would imagine would run okish if not ok on low settings
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#257 [16:25] <sudormrf> Oh... and the kicker is that I'll be using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on it.... forgot to mention that.
#258 [16:25] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah not sure how well that will work out for you if you want to play minecraft lol
#259 [16:25] <Grim_Reaper> Unless you decide to run a virtual os on it perhaps
#260 [16:26] <sudormrf> Grim_Reaper: Minecraft is Linux native.
#261 [16:26] <sudormrf> .... java!
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#263 [16:26] <Grim_Reaper> Mhm. though people seem to prefer windows from what I know
#264 [16:26] <Grim_Reaper> So yeah. Not sure how well you'll enjoy minecraft on linux :p
#265 [16:27] <Grim_Reaper> But hey. Im not a linux guy so I cant really say :p
#266 [16:27] <Boreeas> yay linu
#267 [16:27] <Boreeas> *linux
#268 [16:27] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#269 [16:27] <sudormrf> The game is exactly the same no mater what you play it on....
#270 [16:27] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah I know that much
#271 [16:27] <sudormrf> Except Ubuntu tends to be less burdomsome to run.
#272 [16:27] <Grim_Reaper> mhm
#273 [16:28] <Grim_Reaper> http://www.amazon.com/HP-311-1025NR-11-6-Inch-Black-Netbook/dp/tech-data/B002R5AT6Q/ref=de_a_smtd anyways in regards to that. I think that'll run it okish if not ok on low settings
#274 [16:28] <Boreeas> sudormrf: Just make sure you install sun java and not openjdk
#275 [16:28] <andrewxios> if you run windows 7 on a netbook you gotta make some tweaks before launching minecraft my asus eeepc can run minecraft smooth on low settings but i have to use game booster
#276 [16:28] <Boreeas> My win7 laptop could run minecraft just fine
#277 [16:28] <Boreeas> On the other hand, it has 3 gigs ram and an intel i5 quadcore :P
#278 [16:29] <Grim_Reaper> Though I would ask how much dedicated memory that intergrated card has sudormrf. Just to be sure
#279 [16:34] <Cryophile> Minecraft runs perfectly on linux, Grim_Reaper
#280 [16:35] <Grim_Reaper> Lol I know that :p
#281 [16:35] <Grim_Reaper> Im just not a fan of it
#282 [16:35] <Grim_Reaper> Anyways bed time for me
#283 [16:35] <Grim_Reaper> Night night ~
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#286 [16:36] <sudormrf> Gah... kicked again.
#287 [16:36] <tblgeorge> can i have some help pleasE?
#288 [16:36] <sudormrf> It looks like a cool machine, but "okayish"?
#289 [16:36] <tblgeorge> can someone help me?
#290 [16:36] <WugBot> tblgeorge: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#291 [16:37] <tblgeorge> ok, i downloaded minecraft
#292 [16:37] <tblgeorge> everytime i try and click on it and log in it closes and a thing called 'hs_err_pid' comes up on my desktop and minecraft closes
#293 [16:38] <tblgeorge> i just bought it by the way
#294 [16:39] <tblgeorge> help me please
#295 [16:39] <clarjon1> tblgeorge: can you pastebin the contents to http://pastebin.com/ and then give us the URL?
#296 [16:39] <tblgeorge> what?
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#298 [16:41] <AureliusM> ??> tblgeorge pastebin
#299 [16:41] <VoxelHead> tblgeorge: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#300 [16:41] <tblgeorge> i did that
#301 [16:41] <tblgeorge> its loading
#302 [16:42] <tblgeorge> i did it but the next webpage was internet cant display
#303 [16:43] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: You mean the page http://pastebin.com gives an error ? or after you click the Submit ? It works for me, but try http://pastebin.ca/instead
#304 [16:43] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: * try http://pastebin.ca/ instead *
#305 [16:43] <tblgeorge> im trying 1 sec
#306 [16:44] <tblgeorge> ok it did it
#307 [16:45] <tblgeorge> http://pastebin.ca/2108278
#308 [16:45] <tblgeorge> is the url
#309 [16:46] <tblgeorge> what now~?
#310 [16:46] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Ok, thanks, looks like you need to update the graphics driver. Are you using Windows?
#311 [16:47] <tblgeorge> yes i am
#312 [16:47] <AureliusM> ??> tblgeorge win/dxdiag
#313 [16:47] <VoxelHead> tblgeorge: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#314 [16:47] <VoxelHead> tblgeorge: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#315 [16:47] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Follow VoxelHead's instructions above ^^^ to get details so we can help find driver updates ^^^
#316 [16:48] <tblgeorge> wtf so many ppl
#317 [16:48] <tblgeorge> in what box?
#318 [16:48] <tblgeorge> on the hs err pid?
#319 [16:49] <tblgeorge> whats win+r?
#320 [16:49] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: in pastebin.com or pastebin.ca whichever works
#321 [16:49] <AureliusM> ??> tblgeorge win/key
#322 [16:49] <VoxelHead> tblgeorge: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#323 [16:50] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: ^^^ the Win key is the Windows key on the keyboard ^^^
#324 [16:50] <tblgeorge> o, so on pastebin?
#325 [16:50] <sudormrf> How about this beast: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Notebook-Hard-drive-Accelerator-Integrated/dp/B0010X54CA/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1328046539&sr=1-6
#326 [16:50] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Um, Win+R key means press the Windows key and the R key on your keyboard
#327 [16:54] <sudormrf> It's kinda chubby.. but I am only worried about it running minecraft.
#328 [16:54] <tblgeorge> its submitting
#329 [16:55] <tblgeorge> http://pastebin.com/xBwAHAHV
#330 [16:56] <tblgeorge> that it? :D
#331 [16:56] <tblgeorge> anybody?
#332 [16:57] <tblgeorge> helloooO?
#333 [16:57] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Yes, it takes time for pages to load for me. That's a Toshiba C550 rigft?
#334 [16:57] <tblgeorge> probably, it is a toshiba
#335 [16:57] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: * Toshiba C660 *
#336 [16:58] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Toshiba C660's have a known issue with their configuration, is this recently bought?
#337 [16:58] <tblgeorge> yeah
#338 [16:59] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Some Toshiba C660's have ATI driivers but they do not have ATI cards, wait for a workaround from VoxelHead.
#339 [16:59] <tblgeorge> ok
#340 [16:59] <AureliusM> ??> tblgeorge c660
#341 [16:59] <VoxelHead> tblgeorge: (c660) The Toshiba C660 laptop has known issues with its GPU drivers. Please follow the directions here: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
#342 [16:59] <tblgeorge> okay
#343 [16:59] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Take time following those steps, and ask if there's a problem at any point
#344 [17:00] <tblgeorge> ok
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#346 [17:08] <tblgeorge> ok im stuck
#347 [17:08] <tblgeorge> i click on the have disk button
#348 [17:09] <tblgeorge> then what?
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#350 [17:09] <libraryaddict> !paid miralindo
#351 [17:09] <Wug> "the disk button"?
#352 [17:09] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Can you click on a search folders button to search your disk for the drivers you downloaded?
#353 [17:10] <tblgeorge> theres no folder called graphics
#354 [17:11] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: What do you see after clicking the Have disk button?
#355 [17:11] <tblgeorge> a box with a title of 'install from disk'
#356 [17:12] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Does it look like the example in this thread: http://www.frictionalgames.com/forum/thread-9942.html after step 8?
#357 [17:13] <tblgeorge> yeah it does but that folder isnt in the drop down menu
#358 [17:15] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Is there a browse button in that dialog? Maybe it has "..." on it, I'm not familiar with Windows 7.
#359 [17:15] <tblgeorge> i clicked something and my screen went to fullscreen, how do i exit this
#360 [17:16] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: What did you click?
#361 [17:16] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Did you click a square icon at top right of a window? Just click it again to restore it to normal window mode.
#362 [17:16] <tblgeorge> double clicked standard vga graphics adapter
#363 [17:17] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Go back to this step: Head to your Start menu, right click on "Computer" and go to its properties.
#364 [17:17] <tblgeorge> out of fullscreen
#365 [17:17] <tblgeorge> so im bakc to the have disk thing
#366 [17:18] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Ok, click the "Have disk" button and just report what you see
#367 [17:19] <tblgeorge> a box with a title of 'install from disk'
#368 [17:20] <tblgeorge> what now?
#369 [17:21] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Ok, Does that box have buttons such as Ok, Cancel, and Browse following a white text area ?
#370 [17:21] <tblgeorge> yeah
#371 [17:21] <tblgeorge> but in the drop down menu it doesnt have the right option
#372 [17:22] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: What drop down? Just click the Browse button and a window for finding the driver file should appear.
#373 [17:23] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Do you remember the folder into which you downloaded the driver in this step: Using that driver, extract it to a folder where you know you can get to it easily. ?
#374 [17:24] <tblgeorge> i dont know where i downloaded it too
#375 [17:25] <tblgeorge> should i re-download it?
#376 [17:25] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Was the folder on your Desktop? If not look in your documents or your browser's download folder. If you cannot find just download it again.
#377 [17:27] <tblgeorge> im re downloading to desktop
#378 [17:28] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Ok, after it has downloaded make sure you follow this step: Using that driver, extract it to a folder where you know you can get to it easily.
#379 [17:29] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Are you using 7Zip or WinRAR to extract the driver files?
#380 [17:31] <tblgeorge> ok i redownloaded and its zip
#381 [17:32] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Did you use a program to unzip the contents to a folder? Make a note of where that folder is.
#382 [17:33] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Maybe I should have asked, do you need help using 7Zip or WinRAR?
#383 [17:33] <tblgeorge> i dont know
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#385 [17:35] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Please download 7Zip from here: http://www.7-zip.org/ choose the 64 bit version
#386 [17:35] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: Again, I should have asked if you have 7Zip, I am assuming you do not.
#387 [17:35] <tblgeorge> i dont know
#388 [17:36] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: To find out, right mouse click over the zip you download and look for 7Zip or extract with 7Zip or similar.
#389 [17:37] <tblgeorge> theres extract all
#390 [17:38] <AureliusM> tblgeorge: ok, try that, but I've never used Windows extract, it may not work. Make sure you extract the files to a new folder though, one whose location you will remember.
#391 [17:39] <tblgeorge> i think ive done it its installing driver software, i found the graphics folder and clicked the right thing
#392 [17:39] <tblgeorge> so yeah its installing i think
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#395 [17:56] <yellowduck> Wug, can you help me with error 1723?
#396 [17:58] <yellowduck> or anyone?
#397 [18:02] <yellowduck> Damn
#398 [18:02] <Echo> does anyone know if there is a way to get a minecraft server to work with only port 80 tcp forwarded? just using port 80 doesnt seem to work.
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#403 [18:12] <Jammy> There anything you can do to stop minecarts going into walls? :/
#404 [18:14] <yellowduck> fences?
#405 [18:14] <Jammy> they work better than stone brick?
#406 [18:14] <yellowduck> well, no, but the look better
#407 [18:15] <yellowduck> *they
#408 [18:15] <DreadLindwyrm> Put a loop on the end of the rail track so that it runs out of power and coasts to a stop?
#409 [18:15] <Jammy> i have a tiny track, 3 long, 2 carts on it, both ends have stone brick, and carts keep going through the stone brick >.>
#410 [18:16] <Jammy> it's only there as a means of getting out of a boat as it's next to water
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#412 [18:16] <yellowduck> you might not want to have the brick so close
#413 [18:17] <Jammy> think it just goes of the track if no wall
#414 [18:17] <yellowduck> loop?
#415 [18:17] <Jammy> don't really have space but if it's only way to do it :/
#416 [18:18] <yellowduck> yeah, pretty much
#417 [18:18] <yellowduck> or, if you want a complex system or redstone ans pistons...
#418 [18:20] <yellowduck> *and
#419 [18:20] <Jammy> all i want is a couple of mine carts to stay still :P
#420 [18:20] <yellowduck> oh, then you want no track
#421 [18:21] <yellowduck> actually, 1 peice
#422 [18:22] <yellowduck> OR, or, I have another suggestion, put two furnace minecarts that push against eachother
#423 [18:23] <Jammy> can't get in furnace mine carts can you?
#424 [18:24] <yellowduck> yes, build the minecart, then put a furnace on top of it
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#426 [18:26] * yellowduck grunts
#426 [18:27] <Wug> yellowduck: its been like 3 days so I'll try and get someone else to help, if I can find someone with experience with it
#427 [18:28] <Wug> yellowduck: yes, same project.
#428 [18:28] <Wug> Kealper: are you busy
#429 [18:30] <yellowduck> I don't know why I'm banned from #mcchatter
#430 [18:30] <Wug> probably because you're using webchat or mibbit
#431 [18:30] <Wug> and the management is largely the same
#432 [18:30] <yellowduck> nope, esper
#433 [18:31] <Wug> yeah, the webchat
#434 [18:31] <yellowduck> oh, if I use mIRC will I be allowed in?
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#436 [18:33] <Wug> yes
#437 [18:33] <yellowduck> ok, I might do that later, but for now, java
#438 [18:33] <Wug> I dont think anyone other than maybe kealper has the experience to safely fix this for you
#439 [18:34] <Wug> grey probably could but hes on vacation
#440 [18:34] <Wug> I can but I have that project
#441 [18:34] <yellowduck> ok, but he's not responding
#442 [18:34] <Wug> well, I'm on my linux laptop
#443 [18:34] <Wug> so I dont have teamviewer 7
#444 [18:34] <Wug> start by getting teamviewer 6 and I'll help sometime
#445 [18:34] <Wug> :tv6
#446 [18:34] <WugBot> tv6: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/download/version_6x/TeamViewer_Setup.exe
#447 [18:34] <WugBot> tv6: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#448 [18:35] <clarjon1> Wug: why not have tv7?
#449 [18:36] <Wug> clarjon1: idk
#450 [18:36] <Wug> I do have tv7 on windows
#451 [18:36] <yellowduck> it doesn't work for linux, right?
#452 [18:36] <Wug> yellowduck: 7 doesnt, 6 does
#453 [18:36] <Wug> grab 6 from that link
#454 [18:36] <yellowduck> yep
#455 [18:36] <clarjon1> i use 7
#456 [18:36] <clarjon1> on linux
#457 [18:37] <yellowduck> he's using linux laptop, if that matters
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#459 [18:50] <Kealper> wat
#460 [18:50] * Kealper scrolls up
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#492 [19:03] <Wug> Kealper: yellowduck needs advanced java help
#493 [19:03] <Wug> like registry level probably
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#495 [19:03] <Wug> think you can do it with teamviewer
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#497 [19:04] <Kealper> probably not
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#503 [19:08] <andrewxios> revo uninstaller removes everything(including registry entries)
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#508 [19:17] <caffeinecomplex> Question regarding gifting minecraft if anyone has time
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#510 [19:17] <Kealper> go for it
#511 [19:18] <caffeinecomplex> I noticed when I went to buy minecraft for my nephew it said something about it giving me premium status but already had premium status so if i were to just create an account for my nephew and let him gift it to the other nephew would they both be able to play or?
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#514 [19:19] <Kealper> (if i understood you correctly)
#515 [19:20] <caffeinecomplex> Let me go reread that and come back and see if I can be more specific hehe
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#517 [19:23] <caffeinecomplex> Ah ok I misread that when I saw I was buying the gift it said what you get when buying "Premium status for your account" and misunderstood it as saying if I bought it as a gift the account that bought it as a gift would recieve the premium status as well thanks for the help :D
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#519 [19:24] <Toagac|gtfoACTA> I'm guiding some users through mod instalation and I need to be clear about this: if a player uses a single player world and gets mod items, if they don't have the mods, the world would become unplayable, right?
#520 [19:24] * Kealper saves the day again...
#520 [19:24] <Kealper> maybe
#521 [19:24] <Kealper> uhh
#522 [19:24] <Kealper> actually
#523 [19:25] <Kealper> that depends on the mod
#524 [19:25] <Kealper> if it's like new block types and such, then yeah that breaks the world for all non-modded clients
#525 [19:25] <Toagac|gtfoACTA> OK. Thank you.
#526 [19:25] <Toagac|gtfoACTA> I figue it's best to be up front, right
#527 [19:26] <Kealper> helps to know beforehand than to find out afterwards lol
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#531 [19:28] <Beatlynx> Hello?
#532 [19:28] <Kealper> ello
#533 [19:28] <Beatlynx> whenever i try and run my server it says FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#534 [19:29] <Beatlynx> what should i do
#535 [19:29] <Beatlynx> it used to run fine
#536 [19:29] <Kealper> did you touch server.properties?
#537 [19:29] <Beatlynx> yes
#538 [19:29] <Kealper> did you change a line called server-ip?
#539 [19:29] <Beatlynx> no
#540 [19:29] <Beatlynx> it is the same
#541 [19:29] <Kealper> so that entire line just says "server-ip="?
#542 [19:29] <Kealper> it should be left blank
#543 [19:30] <Beatlynx> no it has my ip on it
#544 [19:30] <Kealper> remove that, just make it blank
#545 [19:30] <Beatlynx> ok
#546 [19:30] <Kealper> now save that, and try the server again
#547 [19:30] <Beatlynx> ok
#548 [19:31] <Kealper> works now?
#549 [19:31] <Beatlynx> hang on....
#550 [19:32] <Beatlynx> no
#551 [19:32] <Kealper> what is it saying?
#552 [19:32] <Beatlynx> Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#553 [19:33] <Kealper> could be.. is this on a professionally hosted machine or is this on your own computer?
#554 [19:33] <Beatlynx> my computer
#555 [19:33] <Kealper> what port are you trying to run it on?
#556 [19:33] <Beatlynx> i gtg ill be back
#557 [19:33] <Beatlynx> 25565
#558 [19:33] <Kealper> alright
#559 [19:34] <Beatlynx> brb
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#563 [19:43] <yellowduck> hey Kealper
#564 [19:43] <yellowduck> could you help me when you're done?
#565 [19:43] <Kealper> yellowduck: i'm not sure; what was the issue you were having? i was told it might have required registry editing and such
#566 [19:44] <yellowduck> error 1723
#567 [19:44] <yellowduck> java
#568 [19:44] <Kealper> when do you get this error?
#569 [19:44] <yellowduck> when I try installing 64-bit Java
#570 [19:44] <Kealper> hmm...
#571 [19:45] <Kealper> when you try installing it...
#572 [19:45] * yellowduck wonders if Kealper is Googling the solution
#572 [19:46] <Kealper> along with that error 1723, is it asking about an "msi.dll"?
#573 [19:46] <yellowduck> it is asking about a DLL, but none specifically
#574 [19:47] <Kealper> oh, it just says something to the effect that a dll file that it wants is missing?
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#576 [19:48] <yellowduck> it says could not be run
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#578 [19:49] <Kealper> "Error 1723. There is a problem with this Windows Install package. A DLL required for this install to complete could not be run." <-- this is the error, right? just making absolutely sure
#579 [19:49] <yellowduck> yes, exactly
#580 [19:50] <Kealper> ok then
#581 [19:50] <Kealper> have you tried uninstalling all copies of Java from the list of installed programs on your computer?
#582 [19:51] <yellowduck|BeingHelped> well, see if I do that, then Minecraft would break and I would be pissed and take a crap on the computer
#583 [19:52] <Kealper> well, try uninstalling that first, as the error seems to be caused by the Java installer not fully cleaning up after itself
#584 [19:53] <yellowduck> I only have 32-bit, so I'll just uninstall that?
#585 [19:53] <Kealper> yeah, uninstall that
#586 [19:54] <yellowduck> oh, and when I try to install, it says I already have it
#587 [19:54] <yellowduck> install java 64-bit
#588 [19:54] <Kealper> hmm....
#589 [19:54] <yellowduck> It's uninstalled, now what?
#590 [19:54] <Kealper> it sounds like the installer borked up a bit
#591 [19:55] <Kealper> now try and install the 64-bit one
#592 [19:55] <oldtopman> ??> yellowduck win/javara
#593 [19:55] <VoxelHead> yellowduck: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#594 [19:55] <VoxelHead> yellowduck: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software and you can download it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/javara/files/
#595 [19:55] <yellowduck> ah
#596 [19:55] <yellowduck> h
#597 [19:55] <Kealper> (the 64 bit one will still run Minecraft just fine)
#598 [19:55] <yellowduck> better
#599 [19:56] <yellowduck> I'm running on a chrome, which I think needs 32-bit
#600 [19:56] <yellowduck> I got the same error
#601 [19:56] <Kealper> hmm...
#602 [19:57] <Kealper> one moment
#603 [20:00] <Kealper> hmm.. well, it looks like the problem is with the installer leaving some stuff left over from when it fails, and this prevents it from properly running again
#604 [20:01] <Kealper> what version of Windows are you on?
#605 [20:01] <yellowduck> 7
#606 [20:02] <Kealper> http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall give this a try
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#608 [20:02] <yellowduck> will the thing that the bot said work for anything?
#609 [20:03] <Kealper> oh, JavaRa? actually... it might
#610 [20:03] <Kealper> try JavaRa first from the link VoxelHead gave
#611 [20:03] <Kealper> if that fails, then give that Microsoft FixIt thing a go
#612 [20:04] <yellowduck> I have CCleanup, if that does anything
#613 [20:04] <yellowduck> *CCleaner
#614 [20:05] <Kealper> i'm not sure if that could help or not, honestly :/
#615 [20:05] <yellowduck> it's a disk cleaner
#616 [20:05] <Kealper> well yeah but i mean i don't know if it can fix the bad installer files
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#618 [20:11] <yellowduck> sorry about that
#619 [20:12] <Kealper> anyways... did you give that JavaRa tool a try?
#620 [20:14] <yellowduck> same error
#621 [20:15] <Wug> Kealper: you're going to have to do it yourself
#622 [20:15] <Wug> he messed with his registry before coming to us
#623 [20:15] <crickets> Ruh-roh
#624 [20:15] <yellowduck> Shh
#625 [20:15] <Wug> I cleared it out and got 32 bit to install but apparently I missed something, 64 bit isnt installing
#626 [20:16] <Wug> yellowduck: details like this are important
#627 [20:16] <Kealper> ehh
#628 [20:16] <Wug> java will not usually screw its registry settings up this badly on its own
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#630 [20:16] <yellowduck> ok, well I expected that you told him
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#632 [20:16] <Kealper> http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall give this a try.... if that doesn't work then i won't know what registry settings are needing to be poked at
#633 [20:16] <Wug> yellowduck: does it say a version is already installed and try to uninstall it first
#634 [20:17] <Kealper> that's something Microsoft cooked up to go through and fix any issues with the Windows Installer, which is the reason that installer is failing
#635 [20:17] <Wug> Kealper: I'm going to have to show you the great java registry wizardry
#636 [20:17] <yellowduck> the fixer is loading....done
#637 [20:18] <Kealper> Wug: what all did he touch, exactly? like.. what keys?
#638 [20:18] <yellowduck> lol
#639 [20:18] <yellowduck> i touched stuff from uninstall
#640 [20:18] <Kealper> so... Windows Installer-related keys? :/
#641 [20:19] <yellowduck> the folders that had java stuff in them, i kill
#642 [20:19] <yellowduck> under uninstall
#643 [20:21] <Kealper> did that Microsoft FixIt thing finish what it was doing?
#644 [20:21] <yellowduck> it's about to try
#645 [20:22] <yellowduck> fixed
#646 [20:22] <yellowduck> is what it says
#647 [20:22] <yellowduck> now should I try to install?
#648 [20:22] <Kealper> well... let's see if it lies... try the java install again
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#650 [20:23] <yellowduck> the normal installer!
#651 [20:23] <Kealper> it's working so far?
#652 [20:23] <yellowduck> yay! it worked
#653 [20:24] <Kealper> \o/
#654 [20:24] <Wug> Kealper: make a factoid for that thing
#655 [20:24] <yellowduck> what is that?
#656 [20:24] <Wug> yellowduck: its an emote
#657 [20:24] <Kealper> a emote for victory, or throwing your hands up in excitement
#658 [20:24] <yellowduck> oh, person with arms in air?
#659 [20:24] <Kealper> indeed
#660 [20:25] <yellowduck> \o/ |
#661 [20:25] <yellowduck> oh! it almost worked
#662 [20:25] <Kealper> Wug: uhh... you make a factoid about that thing :o
#663 [20:25] <yellowduck> wtf is a factoid?
#664 [20:25] <Wug> yellowduck: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8_0dnNQ6GrY/TM7nqhJesqI/AAAAAAAAAZw/dpPyhynqTiQ/s1600/IMG_6303Hooray.jpg
#665 [20:26] <Wug> thats what the emote represents, sort of
#666 [20:26] <Kealper> yellowduck: FAQ entry for the auto-response bots
#667 [20:26] <Wug> Kealper: link?
#668 [20:26] * Wug ddoss voxelhead
#668 [20:26] <Kealper> http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall
#669 [20:26] <Kealper> !tinyurl http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall msfixit
#670 [20:27] <Kealper> well screw you too aubot
#671 [20:27] <yellowduck> AuBot be trollin
#672 [20:27] <Kealper> ^
#673 [20:28] <Wug> ;+ error/1723 If you have made changes to your registry, you may experience issues installing or uninstalling java.;;You may be able to repair these issues automatically with this tool: http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall
#674 [20:28] <Wug> :error/1723
#675 [20:28] <WugBot> error/1723: If you have made changes to your registry, you may experience issues installing or uninstalling java.
#676 [20:28] <WugBot> error/1723: You may be able to repair these issues automatically with this tool: http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall
#677 [20:28] <Wug> wugbot seems lightning quick today
#678 [20:28] <Wug> stupid long uptimes
#679 [20:28] <yellowduck> yeah
#680 [20:28] <Kealper> ;+ D :D
#681 [20:28] <Wug> always ends up on a server thats 5000 miles away from me probably
#682 [20:28] <Kealper> :D
#683 [20:28] <WugBot> d: :D
#684 [20:29] <Wug> and it must be on a nearby one
#685 [20:29] <Kealper> indeed it does seem... immensely fast
#686 [20:29] <Wug> ;fod Kealper
#687 [20:29] <WugBot> Wug ಠ.ಠ) -----> Kealper
#688 [20:29] <yellowduck> you're like "what is this?" Wugbot: "<5 posts of stuff>"
#689 [20:29] <Wug> dont abooz factoids
#690 [20:29] <Kealper> :<
#691 [20:29] <Wug> ;- d
#692 [20:29] <Wug> ;lock d
#693 [20:29] <Kealper> rofl
#694 [20:29] <Wug> :d
#695 [20:30] <Kealper> oh come on, you know that was slightly funny... lol
#696 [20:30] <yellowduck> what was?
#697 [20:30] <Kealper> me making the bot say ":D" when someone else said that in the channel
#698 [20:33] * crickets chirp
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#699 [20:34] <Wug> Kealper: yeah, it was :/
#700 [20:34] <Wug> but spammy bots are not allowed in this channel, or on #minecraft
#701 [20:34] <Wug> so I attempt to keep the pointless factoids to a minimum
#702 [20:34] <Wug> (or really in any channel its in)
#703 [20:35] * Kealper gets Maths in here
#703 [20:35] <yellowduck> {-- } { --} {-- } { --}
#704 [20:36] * crickets pre-emptively stabs Kealper
#704 [20:37] <yellowduck> I just realized something, I have a machete and cookies in the same room
#705 [20:37] * Kealper cackles menacingly
#705 [20:43] <yellowduck> how do I install the "Timber!" mod?
#706 [20:44] <Kealper> depends on the mod, generally it should come with instructions
#707 [20:45] <yellowduck> yeah, but it tells me to put it in the mods folder, which is non-existent
#708 [20:46] <Kealper> it might need modloader
#709 [20:47] <Wug> crickets: you are on vacation
#710 [20:56] <Kealper> crickets: beep
#711 [20:56] <yellowduck> it's a very simple mod
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#752 [21:02] <Kealper> i should fix that
#753 [21:11] <yellowduck> fix what?
#754 [21:12] <Kealper> when some of the servers in the chat network get disconnected from eachother, and then reconnect, everyone on that "split" server will suddenly rejoin instantly
#755 [21:12] <Kealper> aubot sees this and just starts going crazy trying to send everyone that channel MOTD
#756 [21:12] <Kealper> and it gets kicked for sending too much stuff too fast
#757 [21:14] <yellowduck> motd? what does that mean
#758 [21:14] <Kealper> Message Of The Day
#759 [21:14] <Kealper> it's that little message that you get from AuBot when you join a channel
#760 [21:17] <yellowduck> oh, the "Welcome to #___, enjoy your stay!"
#761 [21:18] <yellowduck> that thing?
#762 [21:18] <Kealper> yeah that.... said MOTD can be changed, but that is the default one
#763 [21:19] <yellowduck> what is the command for that?
#764 [21:19] <Kealper> for what? changing what it says?
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#766 [21:21] <yellowduck> yeah
#767 [21:21] <Kealper> that's a command that only certain people can do :P
#768 [21:21] <yellowduck> I have a bot in my channel
#769 [21:21] <yellowduck> oh
#770 [21:25] <yellowduck> tfc changed it's name?
#771 [21:25] <Kealper> tfc?
#772 [21:26] <yellowduck> the mod manager
#773 [21:26] <Kealper> modloader?
#774 [21:27] <yellowduck> no
#775 [21:27] <yellowduck> ever heard of MyCraft
#776 [21:27] <Kealper> nope
#777 [21:28] * Kealper runs off to a different screen to set up public key authentication on his login
#777 [21:28] <yellowduck> ugh, someone help?
#778 [21:30] * yellowduck puts a virus in his computer while he's not looking
#778 [21:31] <yellowduck> haha!
#779 [21:31] <yellowduck> I costed you a little money!
#780 [21:31] <yellowduck> so I can get your facebook account!
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#789 [22:41] <MrTheSean> Hello.
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#794 [22:49] <Echo> Does anyone know how to solve "java.net.SocketException:software caused connection abort:recv failed" on the server it just says "myip has dc'ed " i can connect to other servers just not the one me+my friend set up.
#795 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Try deleting your playername.dat file from the server's /world/ folder
#796 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> er, world/players/
#797 [22:52] <Echo> removed it and restarted the server ( its 100% new ) and still have the same error. ( just to clarify i am on a different network than the server and remote desktop into it. i can connect to it locally )
#798 [22:53] <Echo> by locally i mean on the same machine that is running the server
#799 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, what firewall or security software is installed on the computer running the server?
#800 [22:58] <Echo> none
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#805 [23:41] <Eearslya> Are there any bugs about sheep that aren't listed on the wiki? Namely, any bugs that would cause sheep to disappear or become a different color?
#806 [23:56] <yellowduck> they do grow their wool back, maybe it's a random color each time
#807 [23:56] <DopeGhoti> Echo: what IP are you using in the client to connect to the server on the same machine?
#808 [23:58] <yellowduck> and animals do despawn and respawn