#1 [00:08] <Echo> DopeGhoti i used localhost:80
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#5 [00:29] <MitchellKubillus> How do I link my IRC channel to my server in classic?
#6 [00:30] <MitchellKubillus> Anyone?
#7 [00:32] <MitchellKubillus> How do I link my IRC channel to my Minecraft Classic server so that I can talk between IRC and the server at the same time?
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#12 [01:18] <|Kiikun|> note to anyone who cares to remember... on dells upgraded from xp to 7, try intel drier installer in XP-compat mode.
#13 [01:19] * |Kiikun| just did it on a Dimention 2400. Intel 82845G
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#65 [05:47] <mib_4e299a> hi anyone here to help me
#66 [05:48] <Grim_Reaper> Hi there mib_4e299a. What can I help you with?
#67 [05:48] <mib_4e299a> i cant connet to minecraft wats going on
#68 [05:48] <Grim_Reaper> Ingame or the website?
#69 [05:49] <mib_4e299a> ingame i guess i downloaded so i wont have to play on web browser
#70 [05:49] <mib_4e299a> and i went to put on new skin and now i cant login
#71 [05:50] <Grim_Reaper> What does it say when you try login?
#72 [05:51] <mib_4e299a> cant connet to minecraft.net
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#74 [05:51] <Grim_Reaper> I take it you are on windows?
#75 [05:52] <mib_4e299a> yes
#76 [05:52] <Grim_Reaper> Ok try running the minecraft launcher as administrator, and if need be, try adding it to exceptions list on any firewalls/antiviruses you have
#77 [05:53] <mib_4e299a> thing is i was just playing 5 secs ago
#78 [05:54] <mib_4e299a> i logged off so i can put on my new skin and then this happens
#79 [05:54] <Grim_Reaper> Perhaps try restarting your internet/modem/router then.
#80 [05:54] <Grim_Reaper> Also what do you get when you try go here. https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#81 [05:54] <mib_4e299a> bad login
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#83 [05:54] <Grim_Reaper> Ok thats good for that test :p
#84 [05:55] <Grim_Reaper> try restarting your internet/modem/router and then your pc
#85 [05:55] <Grim_Reaper> See if you can login after that
#86 [05:55] <mib_4e299a> ok
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#88 [06:04] <Dylan> I survived first day of High School!
#89 [06:05] <Grim_Reaper> Well done ;p
#90 [06:05] <Dylan> thx
#91 [06:05] <Dylan> XD
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#101 [07:25] <ward3n> Does anyone know a good 1.1 island seed, preferably with lots of islands together ?
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#103 [07:39] <bearbear12345_DS> g2g bai
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#109 [07:54] <player_x> hi guys, anyone of you know something about mods for bukkit?
#110 [07:54] <Dylan> go to #bukkit
#111 [07:54] <Dylan> XD
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#116 [08:22] <thegamer0101> hi, quick question, when you join someones server, does ur character begin from 0 and his inventory only stays in that server?
#117 [08:22] <Dylan> yes
#118 [08:22] <Dylan> begin from 0 what?
#119 [08:23] <Dylan> inv only on server
#120 [08:23] <thegamer0101> so in oter words, each serveru join will have like ur char inventory and progress saved there, and not in ur pc?
#121 [08:24] <thegamer0101> by 0 i meant no inventory, my bad
#122 [08:24] <Dylan> thats right
#123 [08:25] <thegamer0101> u dont get like a copy or the saved file in ur pc as well?
#124 [08:25] <crickets> Not in MP servers
#125 [08:25] <crickets> Each MP server stores your character data themselves.
#126 [08:26] <thegamer0101> oh gotcha. some of my friends saud u can carry ur inv from an mp server to ur sp game is it true?
#127 [08:26] <xales> No
#128 [08:27] <Dylan> yes
#129 [08:27] <Dylan> with a mod
#130 [08:27] <Dylan> world downloader
#131 [08:29] <thegamer0101> oh ok, thats cool, u gotta work it from the beginning in each server, i like that, u dont get bored from having everything xp
#132 [08:30] <thegamer0101> ty for replying, i gtg, have fun !
#133 [08:33] <Dylan> yep XD
#134 [08:33] <Dylan> it can be like that in terraria tho
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#169 [10:58] <ward3n> does anyone know the name of the mod that automaticly selects the right tool depending on what type of block you are mining ?
#170 [11:00] <crickets> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/753030-11-thebombzens-mods/
#171 [11:01] <ward3n> Thanks crickets !
#172 [11:01] <ward3n> Much appreciated :0
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#176 [11:18] <SuperNoodle> Hello?
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#185 [11:34] <Esx> i've a probleme with the plugin minecart mania if someone can help me
#186 [11:35] <Kiai> Hello. I have a problem with my minecraft server crashing with a java heap space error after inserting a big sphere of blocks with MCEdit. However I have 16GB RAM so I don't really see why I would not want to increase the memory the server was allowed to use. How to fix my problem?
#187 [11:35] <Boreeas> ??> Esx plugins
#188 [11:36] <Boreeas> ??> Esx mods
#189 [11:36] <VoxelHead> Esx: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#190 [11:36] <VoxelHead> Esx: (mods) as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#191 [11:36] <Esx> thk Boreeas
#192 [11:36] <Esx> :)
#193 [11:37] <Boreeas> Kiai: Well, you already said it: Allocate more memory for your server
#194 [11:37] <Kiai> How to?
#195 [11:37] <Boreeas> Kiai: What command are you using right now to start your server?
#196 [11:38] <Kiai> None, I guess. I just start the unmodified server.exe
#197 [11:38] <Boreeas> Try this:
#198 [11:39] <Boreeas> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\javaw.exe" -Xmx2048M -Xms2048M -jar "Minecraft_Server.exe"
#199 [11:39] <Boreeas> Replace the 2048 with a larger number as needed, it's the memory in MB allocated for the server
#200 [11:40] <Kiai> Where to insert this line?
#201 [11:40] <Boreeas> Oh, right
#202 [11:40] <Kiai> My bad, I didn't modify it at all yet so I don't know what exactly you're talking about.
#203 [11:40] <Boreeas> either the console, after cding to the folder where the server exe is
#204 [11:41] <Boreeas> Or you create a new file
#205 [11:41] <Boreeas> Name it "startserver.bat"
#206 [11:41] <Kiai> k
#207 [11:41] <Boreeas> Edit it with notepad, and copy the line there
#208 [11:41] <Boreeas> Then you can doubleclick the file to start the server
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#211 [11:51] <Kiai> Thank you, Boreeas. Will see if 8GB eventually fix the problem.
#212 [11:52] <Boreeas> Kiai: 8GB is more than enough
#213 [11:52] <Kiai> Don't say that. 4GB was insufficient. :P
#214 [11:53] <Kiai> Maybe I should start Minecraft.exe with equal settings?
#215 [11:54] <Kiai> So it loads the world quicker for me?
#216 [11:54] <Kiai> Does that work for the Minecraft.exe?
#217 [11:58] <Boreeas> Kiai: You could try, but if it crashes the server, giving more mem to the Launcher won't help you
#218 [12:06] <Kiai> Server is now at 5,5GB memory use, still rising, still not finished buffering the part of the map I edited
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#220 [12:07] <Boreeas> Kiai: How big exactly _was_ the area you edited?
#221 [12:08] <Kiai> I inserted a 150x150x150 sphere
#222 [12:09] <Boreeas> That's how much? (2/3)*pi*(75^3), right?
#223 [12:10] <Boreeas> Oh, 4/3
#224 [12:11] <Kiai> Should be 4/3 * pi * 75^3, yes
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#226 [12:12] <Boreeas> So ~ 1.5 million blocks
#227 [12:13] <Kiai> ~1,75mio, yup
#228 [12:13] <Boreeas> Which, in a 64bit os using longs as pointers is at least 12 million bytes, not counting any block data
#229 [12:14] <Kiai> At the explosions.
#230 [12:14] <Kiai> Add*
#231 [12:14] <Boreeas> TNT? Seriously?
#232 [12:14] <Kiai> Trolololol
#233 [12:15] <Kiai> I calculated about an hour to finish all the rendering.
#234 [12:15] <Kiai> Only question left is if someone has to be logged in to have them progress or not.
#235 [12:15] <Boreeas> Still weird, 12 million bytes comes down to about 11 megs, even with added block data it should not be that much. I guess it's all the calculations that have to be done that add to it
#236 [12:16] <Kiai> Well, as I said, they're exploding right now.
#237 [12:16] <Kiai> Could likely take a while.
#238 [12:16] <Boreeas> jeesus
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#243 [12:26] <Drakam> Hi
#244 [12:26] <Grim_Reaper> Greetings
#245 [12:27] <Drakam> I have some recurent crash with my minecraft server on ubuntu, someone has some time to look into the log file?
#246 [12:27] <Drakam> http://pastebin.com/7R15WLkE
#247 [12:28] <Grim_Reaper> Im not great with logfiles but lets take a looky
#248 [12:28] <Drakam> thx :)
#249 [12:29] <Grim_Reaper> Not too sure of the error and google isn't loading for me (darn internet >_>)
#250 [12:30] * Grim_Reaper pokes Boreeas hoping he might know
#250 [12:31] * Boreeas looks
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#251 [12:32] <Boreeas> A sergfault?
#252 [12:32] <Boreeas> Drakam: Update to java 1.6_30
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#257 [12:40] <SixFeetJim> hey there, any german got 2 mins for me? :)
#258 [12:41] <SixFeetJim> or any other ^^ but maybe the problem is to complicate to explain. we'll see ^^
#259 [12:41] <Boreeas> SixFeetJim: Schiess los
#260 [12:42] <SixFeetJim> I want to join a server from a friend of mine, but there is always the message can't reach server
#261 [12:42] <SixFeetJim> ah, danke
#262 [12:42] <SixFeetJim> da is jedenfalls das problem. Haben beide Version 1.1. Sie hat den Server vorhin ganz normal über Minecraft_server.jar erstellt
#263 [12:42] <SixFeetJim> aber ich komm nich drauf (auf andere Server schon, habe es mal getestet)
#264 [12:42] <Boreeas> Auf einem externen server oder von ihrem computer aus?
#265 [12:43] <SixFeetJim> von ihrem computer aus
#266 [12:43] <Boreeas> Kann irgendein anderer spieler sich verbinden?
#267 [12:43] <SixFeetJim> haben wir nich versucht
#268 [12:43] <Boreeas> Was ist di IP?
#269 [12:44] <SixFeetJim> 78.49.67.29
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#271 [12:45] <Boreeas> standardport?
#272 [12:45] <SixFeetJim> Sofern standardport 25565 is dann ja
#273 [12:45] <Boreeas> mhm
#274 [12:45] <Boreeas> !check 78.49.67.29
#275 [12:45] <Grim_Reaper> Lol every time. I get highlighted xp
#276 [12:46] <Boreeas> Ich schätze das der port nicht korrekt weitergeleitet wurde.
#277 [12:46] <Grim_Reaper> You know german o_O?
#278 [12:46] <SixFeetJim> Und.... was macht man dagegen? ;o
#279 [12:46] <Boreeas> http://portforward.com hat anleitungen wie man dieses problem löst, allerdings ist das alles auf english
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#281 [12:46] <Kiai> Comming back to my old question since there's a read time out kick that makes it impossible to stay on the server: Do you need to be near the tnt explosions or logged in to have them going on on a server?
#282 [12:46] <SixFeetJim> eouw l:
#283 [12:47] <SixFeetJim> Ich weiß ja nichmal, was das problem wirklich bedeutet :D
#284 [12:47] <Boreeas> Deine freundin muss sich ihren router heraussuchen und der anleitung folgen
#285 [12:47] <Boreeas> SixFeetJim: Der router nimmt verbindungen über ports auf, leitet die aber normalerweise nicht an den computer weiter
#286 [12:48] <SixFeetJim> is ein Modem
#287 [12:49] <Boreeas> Weiss nicht ob das ähnliche probleme hervorrufen könnte. Meine empfehlung wäre ja, auf einen professionellen server auszuweichen
#288 [12:50] <SixFeetJim> naja wir wollen einfach nur nen paar klötze aufeinander bauen, das is alles ^^
#289 [12:50] <Boreeas> Tja, server sind leider mehr als nur ein paar klötze
#290 [12:51] <Boreeas> Allerdings wage ich es zu bezweifeln, ob ein modem überhaupt genug up/download speed hat, um einen server zu hosten
#291 [12:51] <SixFeetJim> *grübelt*
#292 [12:52] <SixFeetJim> Gibts keine Möglichkeit einfach zu 2. nen bischen zu zocken? O_o
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#294 [12:54] <Boreeas> Tja, mit modems kenn ich mich leider nicht so gut aus. Wenn du einen router hast, kannst du vielleicht versuchen, den server zu hosten?
#295 [12:55] <SixFeetJim> http://forum.buffed.de/index.php/topic/183495-how-to-minecraft-server-erstellen/
#296 [12:55] <SixFeetJim> ich bin den anweisungen dieses links gefolgt, bzw., auf diese Idee kam ich natürlich auch schon
#297 [12:55] <SixFeetJim> aber 1. öffnet der die Minecraft_server.jar bei mir einfach mit WinRAR und 2. Hat es, nachdem ich es dann über eine Kommandozeile versucht hatte, trotzdem nich funktioniert
#298 [12:56] <SixFeetJim> Gleiches Problem, can't reach server
#299 [12:56] <SixFeetJim> Gleiches Problem, can't reach server
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#303 [12:58] <Boreeas> Dammit
#304 [12:58] <SixFeetJim> Noch gelesen was ich schrieb?
#305 [12:59] <Boreeas> Alls letztes den link
#306 [12:59] <SixFeetJim> ich bin den anweisungen dieses links gefolgt, bzw., auf diese Idee kam ich natürlich auch schon 18:54 SixFeetJim aber 1. öffnet der die Minecraft_server.jar bei mir einfach mit WinRAR und 2. Hat es, nachdem ich es dann über eine Kommandozeile versucht hatte, trotzdem nich funktioniert
#307 [13:02] <Boreeas> Welchen fehler hast du über die kommandozeile erhalten?
#308 [13:02] <SixFeetJim> Keinen, es ging ;) also die jar öffnete sich, alle dateien sind im ordner erschienen
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#316 [13:54] <Anteu> http://rakenews.com Poker free $
#317 [13:54] <Anteu> http://rakenews.com Poker free $
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#319 [13:54] <Grim_Reaper> >_>
#320 [13:55] <Grim_Reaper> I dispise spammers
#321 [13:55] <Chris|Hospital> don't we all
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#323 [13:55] <Grim_Reaper> I think some like them actually..
#324 [13:56] <Chris|Hospital> ...freaks :3
#325 [13:56] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#326 [13:56] * Chris|Hospital checks his wikis for spam again
#326 [13:56] <Grim_Reaper> Lol your wiki gets spammed?
#327 [13:56] <Grim_Reaper> haha
#328 [13:56] <Chris|Hospital> holy... shizz...
#329 [13:56] <Chris|Hospital> so... much... spam...
#330 [13:56] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#331 [13:56] <Chris|Hospital> http://wiki.chrisgward.com/index.php/Special:RecentChanges
#332 [13:57] <Grim_Reaper> wow
#333 [13:57] * Chris|Hospital starts banning
#333 [13:57] <Grim_Reaper> Is it bad Im tempted to spam your wiki now?
#334 [13:58] <Chris|Hospital> I'll iptables you if you dare
#335 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> Oh really? *trollface*
#336 [13:59] <Chris|Hospital> make spam on my wiki and I'll stop giving you 357.
#337 [13:59] <Grim_Reaper> ;-;
#338 [14:00] <Chris|Hospital> hey look! male enlargement spam! only $300! holy god! *clicks
#339 [14:01] <Grim_Reaper> Pfft I got a better deal for $250!
#340 [14:01] <Chris|Hospital> but this one spammed me, it has to be better!
#341 [14:02] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah well I bet I get more viagra spam a week than you do
#342 [14:02] <Chris|Hospital> I doubt it, I haven't checked my hotmail in bloody ages, the spam must be totally filled
#343 [14:03] <Grim_Reaper> I remember I went away for a month. My email had gone from 0 to 1000+ emails
#344 [14:03] <Grim_Reaper> About 7% was legit
#345 [14:03] <Chris|Hospital> o.o
#346 [14:03] <Chris|Hospital> I think you win xD
#347 [14:03] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah >_>
#348 [14:04] <Grim_Reaper> Though this was a couple years ago
#349 [14:04] <Grim_Reaper> Since hotmail has gotten abit better at blocking spam
#350 [14:04] <Grim_Reaper> It's nowhere like that anymore :p
#351 [14:04] <Chris|Hospital> true
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#353 [14:06] <francistm> hello everyone
#354 [14:07] <Grim_Reaper> Hello
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#357 [14:19] <tblgeorge> hello
#358 [14:19] <tblgeorge> i need some help
#359 [14:20] <tblgeorge> i want to host i minecraft server
#360 [14:20] <tblgeorge> for free
#361 [14:20] <tblgeorge> how do i do this?
#362 [14:20] <tblgeorge> hello?
#363 [14:21] <tblgeorge> i payed for minecraft, i would like to have help available when i need it
#364 [14:21] <tblgeorge> goddamnit voxelhead, you helped me yesterday help me again
#365 [14:22] <tblgeorge> o you inactive fuckers
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#368 [14:25] <Chris|Hospital> ??< index
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#376 [15:24] <Wug> ;addalt armed_ armed
#377 [15:24] <WugBot> Registered armed as alt nick of armed_.
#378 [15:25] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#379 [15:25] <Grim_Reaper> WugBot works now?
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#381 [15:26] <MitchellKubillus> How do I assign my IRC channel to link with my minecraft classic server ???
#382 [15:26] <Wug> MitchellKubillus: you need special software
#383 [15:27] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#384 [15:27] <Wug> ask about it in #bukkit
#385 [15:27] <MitchellKubillus> Ok
#386 [15:27] <Grim_Reaper> ;kick Grim_Reaper test
#387 [15:27] <Grim_Reaper> ;kick Grim_Reaper test
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#392 [15:27] <Grim_Reaper> woot
#393 [15:28] <Morrolan> I don't think asking in #bukkit regarding a _classic_ server will be any good.
#394 [15:28] <Boreeas> ;kick Grim_Reaper test
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#397 [15:28] <Boreeas> \o/
#398 [15:28] <Wug> oh, is that minecraft classic
#399 [15:28] <Wug> Grim_Reaper: dont spam
#400 [15:28] <Grim_Reaper> Spam what?
#401 [15:28] <Grim_Reaper> o_o
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#406 [15:52] <oldtopman> >.>
#407 [15:52] <oldtopman> <.<
#408 [15:52] <oldtopman> -_-
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#415 [16:14] <sugoi> i've read the wiki about what can cause bad performance
#416 [16:15] <sugoi> none of the items particularly warn about VERY large world maps
#417 [16:15] <sugoi> but a friend was running a server, said he had issues and by building a new world those issues were resolved, and he had a very large map
#418 [16:15] <Wug> sugoi: thats correct
#419 [16:15] <sugoi> i suppose it could have been something else
#420 [16:15] <Wug> the map might have been damaged
#421 [16:15] <sugoi> ok - so my concern
#422 [16:16] <sugoi> i did some prerendering of my world to look for some locations i could build a village and shops for my users
#423 [16:16] <sugoi> did a HUGE prerender
#424 [16:16] <sugoi> now i have the place picked out, but i'm concerned to let them back in, i could revert the map to smaller version, and go directly to the selected locatin
#425 [16:16] <sugoi> unless this is just _silly_
#426 [16:16] <Wug> there is no issue with having large maps
#427 [16:17] <sugoi> okie doke
#428 [16:17] <Wug> the largest map I've had was 1.4GB
#429 [16:17] <Grim_Reaper> Nice
#430 [16:17] <sugoi> just wanted to hear it from someone else that knows :)
#431 [16:17] <Wug> server map
#432 [16:17] <sugoi> this one is 3.1GB
#433 [16:17] <Wug> never had any issues with the size of the map, except that it took forever to load in mcedit
#434 [16:18] <sugoi> Wug: i suppose that is a problem too
#435 [16:18] <Wug> however, it does make backing it up challenging
#436 [16:18] <sugoi> also, true (s/challenging/time consuming/)
#437 [16:18] <Wug> you could probably find a plugin to prune unmodified chunks
#438 [16:18] <Wug> #bukkit may know more about this
#439 [16:18] <Wug> you should ask them.
#440 [16:18] <sugoi> if that's all i want (pruning) i could just revert as i know my locations
#441 [16:18] <sugoi> ok, i'll ask them :)
#442 [16:21] <Wug> I should write a backup plugin
#443 [16:21] <sugoi> Wug: to make diffs rather than zips?
#444 [16:21] <Wug> incremental backups
#445 [16:21] <sugoi> i was just thinking of that too :)
#446 [16:21] <Wug> yeah. you could save an enormous amount of space and time
#447 [16:22] <sugoi> yep
#448 [16:22] <sugoi> with the way the chunk files are saved, that could be quite easy
#449 [16:22] <Wug> it would probably be per chunk
#450 [16:22] <sugoi> you could even just use timestamps on those files
#451 [16:22] <Wug> timestamps, exactly
#452 [16:22] <Wug> do a global save
#453 [16:23] <sugoi> this is such a simple+good idea....someone MUST have done this already
#454 [16:23] <sugoi> :)
#455 [16:23] <Wug> then copy all of the chunks that had been modified since the last backup into new backup regions
#456 [16:23] <Wug> yeah, youd think
#457 [16:23] <sugoi> yep
#458 [16:23] <Wug> but all of the backup plugins I've seen take an obnoxiously long time to run
#459 [16:24] <Wug> bananabackup takes like 2 minutes for whats probably a 500mb world
#460 [16:25] <sugoi> Wug: this could be cool
#461 [16:25] <Wug> you could save a gigantic amount of space too, over doing a full copy
#462 [16:25] <Wug> only issue would be because its incremental, you might end up damaging parts of it if you're not careful
#463 [16:26] <Wug> and damaging any one part would damage the whole thing
#464 [16:26] <Wug> I'll make provisions for that
#465 [16:26] <sugoi> but i'm a c++/c# dev; not saying java would be hard, i've just been doing c++/c# for so many years it would be frustrating to use a 'new' language
#466 [16:26] <sugoi> but besides that, i'm interested in this
#467 [16:26] <Wug> I am too. going from c family to java is fairly easy
#468 [16:26] <sugoi> easy sure, fun? maybe not
#469 [16:27] <Wug> youll hate java
#470 [16:27] <sugoi> haha
#471 [16:27] <Wug> but youll pick it up quickly
#472 [16:27] <Grim_Reaper> Not a fan of java
#473 [16:27] <sugoi> i toyed with it, didn't like it
#474 [16:27] <Wug> I'd probably do it in java just because I'd rather not rewrite the entire thing
#475 [16:27] <Wug> and theres plenty there that I can build from
#476 [16:28] <sugoi> yeah
#477 [16:28] <Wug> I have to go, be back later
#478 [16:29] <Boreeas> <- A fan of Java
#479 [16:29] * Boreeas hides
#479 [16:29] <sugoi> haha
#480 [16:29] * Wug impales
#480 [16:29] <Boreeas> No, seriously, I prefer JAva over C#
#481 [16:29] <Wug> I havent used c#
#482 [16:29] <sugoi> Boreeas: you're the 2nd person i've ever heard say that
#483 [16:30] <Boreeas> sugoi: Out of how many?
#484 [16:30] <SushiDude> Anyone know how I make my server generate a flat world without the use of any plugins
#485 [16:30] <sugoi> Boreeas: oh dozens...maybe a hundred
#486 [16:30] <Boreeas> I have tried C++ and thrown it away about 2 hours later
#487 [16:30] <SushiDude> oh
#488 [16:30] <SushiDude> wrong channel
#489 [16:30] <SushiDude> sorry about that =P
#490 [16:30] <sugoi> SushiDude: flat?
#491 [16:30] <sugoi> mcedit would
#492 [16:30] <Boreeas> Damn lack of good arrays + confusing pointer stuff
#493 [16:30] <SushiDude> sugoi, no
#494 [16:31] <SushiDude> It is in the game now
#495 [16:31] <SushiDude> so there is no need for that
#496 [16:31] <Boreeas> Also, strings and char sequnces and stuff
#497 [16:31] <SushiDude> There must be an option in server.properties
#498 [16:32] <Boreeas> Also, Wug, you are learning Prolog?
#499 [16:33] <sugoi> i'm a c++ developer on autodesk inventor, our use of c++ with memory and graphics is critical to performance
#500 [16:33] <sugoi> otherwise, i love c#
#501 [16:33] <Boreeas> Nah
#502 [16:33] <sugoi> been doing c++ for years, so it's natural to me, but i understand the frustration ppl have
#503 [16:33] <Boreeas> Capitalised method names *shudders*
#504 [16:34] <sugoi> Boreeas: neither c++ nor c# have anything in their spec about capitalized method names, so i'm not sure what you're talking about
#505 [16:34] <sugoi> is that a java thing?
#506 [16:35] <Boreeas> sugoi: Hmm, at least in Visual Studio all public methods (System.Print()) are capitalised
#507 [16:35] <Boreeas> sugoi: In Java, classes are captialised, methods are mixedCase, as are variables
#508 [16:36] <sugoi> oh yes, method names of .net libraries, but that's not the language, that's the API designers
#509 [16:36] <Boreeas> Ah well, I only know C# as .NET framework
#510 [16:37] <sugoi> no, you're completely valid in that grouping, c# sans .net framework doesn't make any sense --- i just wasn't sure what you were bothered by
#511 [16:37] <sugoi> aaaanyways...sorry to spam #this like that
#512 [16:38] <Boreeas> No one is here, so where's the problem :P
#513 [16:38] <sugoi> heh, i suppose i'm used to more active/strick #channels
#514 [16:39] <Boreeas> It kinda comes in bursts in here
#515 [16:39] <sugoi> putting best practices (preferred) aside, there are some features in c# that i honestly think you should consider in your assessment
#516 [16:40] * GreyVulpine is a c/c++ guy. Java frustrates him to no end
#516 [16:41] * Morrolan throws a pointer at GreyVulpine
#516 [16:41] <Morrolan> ... or whatever you do with those things
#517 [16:41] <sugoi> haha
#518 [16:41] <sugoi> it's c++, you can throw anything
#519 [16:41] * GreyVulpine throws it on a linked list and points it recursively back at Morrolan
#519 [16:41] <Morrolan> Hehe
#520 [16:42] <Boreeas> C, C everywhere Q.Q
#521 [16:43] * GreyVulpine typecasts Boreeas to an int.
#521 [16:43] <sugoi> ha
#522 [16:44] <Morrolan> Quoting ChauffeR I'll just go with. $this->throw('GreyVulpine','sock');
#523 [16:44] <Boreeas> Error: Can't cast to primitives
#524 [16:44] <Boreeas> sugoi: "there are some features in c# that i honestly think you should consider in your assessment"
#525 [16:44] <Boreeas> For example?
#526 [16:45] <sugoi> in no order, and incomplete list.....
#527 [16:46] <sugoi> .net 4's threading library and data structures
#528 [16:46] <sugoi> foreach+yields+ienumerable syntax sugar
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#531 [16:46] <sugoi> explicit interface + partial class syntax sugar
#532 [16:46] <sugoi> seriously slick reflection library
#533 [16:46] <Boreeas> sugoi: Java also has threads, and foreach, and interfaces, and abstract classes, and reflection <.<
#534 [16:47] <sugoi> but it's junk in comparison
#535 [16:47] <sugoi> i say that objectively
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#537 [16:48] <Boreeas> Proof or it is subjective <.<
#538 [16:48] <sugoi> i'm not talking about 'threads', i'm talking the new .net 4's models, it's really nice (async methods, task managers for world's best thread pooling....helper classes to improve syncing data)
#539 [16:48] <sugoi> and syntax sugar around foreach to help you extend you classes with very little and simple syntax to work well with loops and queries
#540 [16:49] <sugoi> explicit interfacing and partial classes is just more syntax sugar, but very nice for API designers
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#542 [16:49] <sugoi> the reflection is outstanding, i built a library using a heavy amount of reflection, my java friends who work with reflection said that couldn't be done in java
#543 [16:50] <Boreeas> ...
#544 [16:50] <Boreeas> dammit
#545 [16:50] <sugoi> not what i did (no proof, just word of mouth)
#546 [16:50] * Boreeas goes back to python
#546 [16:50] <Boreeas> <.<
#547 [16:51] <sugoi> um, lambdas? but java has that now, right?
#548 [16:51] <Boreeas> I think there is osmetihng like that in J7
#549 [16:51] <sugoi> anonymous methods and the delegate type library?
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#551 [16:52] <Boreeas> Python has no real advantage except being really quick to write and almost impossible to understand 2 weeks later
#552 [16:53] <sugoi> also, everything can be an object implicitly, and string == string makes sense for those who don't really care
#553 [16:53] <sugoi> i mean for crying out loud java...
#554 [16:53] <sugoi> i guess the reason i found that lame in java is bc coming from c++, you just overload ==
#555 [16:53] <sugoi> and you move on
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#557 [16:54] <Boreeas> Yeah, but it makes sense. == is _always_ identity equality, so overloading it would be confusing
#558 [16:55] <sugoi> whatever
#559 [16:55] <Boreeas> <.<
#560 [16:56] <Boreeas> Also
#561 [16:56] <Boreeas> "return (Packet) Class.forName(classname).getDeclaredConstructor(bytes.getClass()).newInstance(bytes);"
#562 [16:56] <sugoi> i'm not saying java doesn't have reflectin
#563 [16:56] <Boreeas> yay reflection
#564 [16:57] <sugoi> why do i always spell "*tion" as "*ton"
#565 [16:57] <sugoi> or, *tin
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#570 [17:00] <Boreeas> Goddammit why do I always /part Q.Q
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#575 [17:21] <kermi> hi
#576 [17:21] <kermi> I need help with my minecraft
#577 [17:26] <sugoi> kermi: ask away
#578 [17:26] <kermi> sugoi: I'm actualluy trolling
#579 [17:26] <sugoi> um, ok
#580 [17:27] <kermi> for the record
#581 [17:27] <Boreeas> ;kick kermi no u :(
#582 [17:27] * WugBot kicked kermi from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ermi :no u :()
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#584 [17:27] <Boreeas> Wug: Do you know that kermi guy?
#585 [17:28] * WugBot kicked Boreeas from #minecrafthelp (Reason: oreeas :no u)
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#587 [17:28] <Boreeas> Wug: He is also connected over *.rit.edu
#588 [17:28] <kermi> Boreeas: sugoi: if you see someone with a .rit.edu hostname
#589 [17:28] <Boreeas> I take that as a yes <.<
#590 [17:28] <kermi> 1) automatically assume wug
#591 [17:29] <Boreeas> ;kick Automatic kick for kicking people that kicked you
#592 [17:29] <WugBot> automatic is not in the channel.
#593 [17:29] <Boreeas> ;kick kermi Automatic kick for kicking people that kicked you
#594 [17:29] * WugBot kicked kermi from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ermi :Automatic kick for kicking people that kicked you)
#595 [17:29] <Boreeas> \o/
#596 [17:29] <sugoi> haha
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#600 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> !k WugBot
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#602 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> !k kermi
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#604 [17:29] * GreyVulpine coughs
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#605 [17:29] <kermi> :<
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#607 [17:30] <sugoi> kermi: Boreeas: i actually filter my channel output
#608 [17:30] <sugoi> joins/quits (for example) are not displayed
#609 [17:31] <kermi> GreyVulpine: are you back from vacation then
#610 [17:31] <sugoi> Boreeas: is this still true: http://www.jprl.com/Blog/archive/development/2007/Aug-31.html#jcs-java-runtime
#611 [17:31] <sugoi> or is that outdated?
#612 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> No, no I'm not
#613 [17:32] * crickets stabs Wug with chirps
#613 [17:32] <Boreeas> Well, first of all, Java is already at v7, sugoi
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#616 [17:33] <sugoi> thus the use of the words "*still* true"
#617 [17:33] <kermi> sugoi: I believe it is
#618 [17:34] <Rainbow_DJ> i need an email to minecraft.net or mojang so i can conntact them dose any one know? i need help and iv tryed every where so any help would be nice
#619 [17:34] <sugoi> sheesh, for generics and delegates alone i would feel annoyed with java
#620 [17:34] <crickets> Rainbow_DJ, http://help.mojang.com
#621 [17:34] <sugoi> Rainbow_DJ: there is an email address you can use, but i'm curious what issue you're having
#622 [17:34] <kermi> there are no generics in minecrafts decompiled source because they are smashed at compile time
#623 [17:35] <Boreeas> sugoi: First: "Map<String, String> incorrect = new HashMap ();"
#624 [17:35] <Boreeas> No longer valid
#625 [17:35] <Frymaster> sugoi: could be worse, I learned java nefpre generics existed
#626 [17:35] <Frymaster> before*
#627 [17:35] <Frymaster> right-hand typing fail
#628 [17:35] <Boreeas> Constructor must be HashMap<String, String>() (Java 6) or HashMap<>() (Java 7)
#629 [17:36] <sugoi> Boreeas: and in c# we just use `var`
#630 [17:36] <sugoi> Frymaster: haha :)
#631 [17:37] <Boreeas> But honestly, I haven't much owkred with generics yet, at least not implementation-side
#632 [17:37] <Rainbow_DJ> well i created an email and it got deleted some how but befor it got deleted i made an minecraft.net account on it but i did not get to verify my email so i need to talk to them to tell them to send the verify email thing to some other email and majang support center can not help0 me with my problem
#633 [17:37] <sugoi> Rainbow_DJ: ah, that's a good one :)
#634 [17:38] <sugoi> Rainbow_DJ: i wish you good fortune
#635 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Rainbow_DJ - then use: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#637 [17:39] <Rainbow_DJ> i did not get to buy the game so that wont help me becuz i need the Transaction ID which i have not buyed the game
#638 [17:39] <kermi> just use 0 or something
#639 [17:40] <Rainbow_DJ> so in less i can send it with out the Transaction ID that wont help me
#640 [17:41] <Rainbow_DJ> also where is the email i dont see it
#641 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Mojang's moved from direct email, to that forum there.
#642 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> er, form
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#644 [17:45] <kermi> Rainbow_DJ: can you just make up a transaction id
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#648 [18:05] <DreadLindwyrm> Or try it without the ID, and see if it goes through
#649 [18:05] <DreadLindwyrm> Oops. Didn't realise the time...
#650 [18:07] <kermi> this is the part where I go away and come back in 5 minutes
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#659 [19:05] <t4nk255> did minecraft 1.2 come out yet?
#660 [19:05] <|Kiikun|> i dont tyhink so
#661 [19:05] <Boreeas> t4nk255: Start minecraft, it should tell you
#662 [19:06] <t4nk255> i can't start it right now i am on a diffrent computer
#663 [19:06] <t4nk255> that's why i am asking here
#664 [19:06] <|Kiikun|> t4nk255: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_History
#665 [19:06] <t4nk255> why wont u start minecraft and then tell me
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#667 [19:07] <t4nk255> :( so i guess it didn't any ideas when it might come out?
#668 [19:07] <|Kiikun|> t4nk255: when jeb says so.
#669 [19:07] <t4nk255> umm
#670 [19:07] <|Kiikun|> he doesnt like giving fixed dates... usually ita 'we may release tomorrow'
#671 [19:08] <t4nk255> oh, well where does he say this stuff? also i heard he has a youtube channel where he releases videos or something
#672 [19:08] <t4nk255> on twitter or something?
#673 [19:09] <|Kiikun|> ?? mojang/twitter
#674 [19:09] <VoxelHead> mojang/twitter: There is a compilation of the Twitter feeds of all Mojang staff at http://www.twitter.com/DopeGhoti/mojang
#675 [19:09] <t4nk255> omg i have to take a shit so bad right now
#676 [19:10] <|Kiikun|> t4nk255: please dont share that.. just go
#677 [19:11] <t4nk255> hmm
#678 [19:12] <t4nk255> is notch the boss or jeb?
#679 [19:12] <Wug> this is not a general chat channel
#680 [19:12] <t4nk255> i heard jeb became the bossaru or something
#681 [19:12] <|Kiikun|> notch is the boss of mojang. jeb was handed the reigns of minecraft though
#682 [19:12] <|Kiikun|> and... *scared now... creepers may open doors o.o;*
#683 [19:13] <t4nk255> in 1.2 they made the zombies smarter
#684 [19:13] <|Kiikun|> zombies and skeles have pathfinding and sunlight-avoidance
#685 [19:13] <t4nk255> i hope they dont make creepers thow that would suck
#686 [19:13] <t4nk255> i know
#687 [19:14] <t4nk255> they go in water too
#688 [19:14] <t4nk255> witch is kinda retarded if u live on like a water base
#689 [19:14] <|Kiikun|> DopeGhoti: you need to add @jonkagstrom to your mojang-compilation-feed.
#690 [19:15] <t4nk255> hey kiikun u have a server
#691 [19:15] <Wug> t4nk255: this is not a general chat channel
#692 [19:16] <t4nk255> then what is
#693 [19:16] <Wug> theres #minecraft
#694 [19:16] <|Kiikun|> #minecraft
#695 [19:16] <|Kiikun|> or #smp
#696 [19:16] <t4nk255> says cant send to minecraft
#697 [19:16] <Wug> you can also ask via pm
#698 [19:16] <Wug> read the topic
#699 [19:17] <t4nk255> i dont understand heeeelp me
#700 [19:17] <t4nk255> this is a help channel no?
#701 [19:18] <|Kiikun|> t4nk255: join #help and ask "how do i register my nickname?"
#702 [19:18] <|Kiikun|> this is MINECRAFT help.. not irc help :P
#703 [19:18] <t4nk255> just tell me i know u know spas
#704 [19:18] <Wug> yes we do know
#705 [19:18] <Wug> now go to #help and ask there
#706 [19:18] <t4nk255> itcommon courtesy
#707 [19:19] <t4nk255> its called common courtesy
#708 [19:19] <t4nk255> :)
#709 [19:19] <Wug> no, its common courtesy to maintain the topic
#710 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> |Kiikun|: danke schoen.
#711 [19:19] * sugoi kicks t4nk255
#711 [19:19] <Wug> this is a minecraft help channel, not a general help channel
#712 [19:19] <t4nk255> ok i ll go and ask them
#713 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> |Kiikun|: done.
#714 [19:23] <|Kiikun|> :3
#715 [19:26] * Wug is too grumpy
#715 [19:26] <TheNoodle> pfft
#716 [19:26] <|Kiikun|> Wug: should i get you a trash can to move into? :P
#717 [19:30] <t4nk255> haha hey wug got kicked from help
#718 [19:30] <t4nk255> umad bro?
#719 [19:30] <Wug> t4nk255: dont try to troll me
#720 [19:31] <t4nk255> so yeah i registerd what the channel?
#721 [19:31] <Wug> #minecraft
#722 [19:31] <t4nk255> ok
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#725 [19:37] <t4nk665> hi
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#730 [19:46] <xales> hey, hey Wug.
#731 [19:46] <xales> bah
#732 [19:46] <xales> why did I close my voxelhead window
#733 [19:46] <t4nk255> hey wug i told on u
#734 [19:46] <t4nk255> and they said ur not the bousss over at minecraft chanel
#735 [19:47] <t4nk255> whats the #minecraft thing?
#736 [19:47] <t4nk255> i wanna join
#737 [19:47] <t4nk255> whats the minecraft chnnel?
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#739 [19:47] <xales> That works.
#740 [19:47] <xales> Wug: ^
#741 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> xales: o/
#742 [19:54] <xales> \o
#743 [19:54] <VoxelHead> *snap*
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#745 [20:00] <VoxelHead> :D
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#755 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> I smell a netsplit
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#767 [20:23] <awesomeman> What is a netsplit
#768 [20:23] <awesomeman> and how did this chat open itself
#769 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> !wiki netsplit
#770 [20:24] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
#771 [20:24] <GreyBot> In computer networking, specifically Internet Relay Chat (IRC), netsplit is the disconnection of a given node from the previously established network or between two nodes. As an IRC network is an undirected acyclic graph, a split between any two nodes splits the entire network into two pieces.
#772 [20:24] <awesomeman> ah
#773 [20:24] <awesomeman> This irc chat opened itself while I was out at dinner
#774 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> We're awesome like that.
#775 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Your IRC client just had to open it up to us.
#776 [20:25] <awesomeman> Haha
#777 [20:26] <awesomeman> That would be all.
#778 [20:26] <awesomeman> That would be all.
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#782 [21:13] <sugoi> that's similar to how bugs get into my code
#783 [21:14] <sugoi> i swear
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#787 [21:49] <Inucoru> hello
#788 [21:49] <Inucoru> can anyone help me with a little issue lol
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#790 [21:50] <Inucoru> i have no idea how to update my server without loosing my current world
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#793 [22:03] <JohnEBH> Inucoru, Just replace the minecraft_server.jar
#794 [22:03] <JohnEBH> Inucoru, Unless any changes have been made to the map generation in Minecraft, your world should be fine.
#795 [22:03] <JohnEBH> Inucoru, But it's your responsibility to have backups of the map.
#796 [22:25] <Ketsueki> Inucoru: 1.1 seems to have slightly different placement of trees and such from 1.0; but the world as a whole more or less still fits. If you make a backup of everything you should be fine as long as you keep that backup clean (copy from it, work on the working copy not the backup)
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#799 [22:45] <TheNexusElement> Don't know if anyone here can help. I have a netgear N750 router, and ports forwarded, but reports show that the ports are really closed.
#800 [22:45] <TheNexusElement> What's wrong?
#801 [22:45] <samineru> I have a computer with dual graphics, a lenovo w500. I am using the ATI FireGL V5700. Since at least the most recent update to minecraft it crashes with a null pointer exception before showing the mojang logo.
#802 [22:46] <Ketsueki> TheNexusElement: try inspecting your computer for firewalls and allowing the ports in.
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#805 [22:47] <Jouster500> how do i post pictures in the minecraft forum without using url?
#806 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> You cannot
#807 [22:48] <Jouster500> then how do i post without using email
#808 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to find a place to host your images, like imgur.com, post the picture, get a URL back
#809 [22:48] <Wug> if you have a picture on your computer you can upload it on imgur.com
#810 [22:48] * Wug too slow
#810 [22:48] <Jouster500> k
#811 [22:48] <TheNexusElement> It worked fine with my d-link, but the power supply died in it
#812 [22:48] <Jouster500> is imgur free?
#813 [22:48] <Jouster500> virus free?
#814 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Jouster500 - yes
#815 [22:48] <Jouster500> k thx
#816 [22:49] <Wug> TheNexusElement: are they forwarded to the right address
#817 [22:49] <Wug> what is your internal ip address, do you know
#818 [22:49] <TheNexusElement> 192.168.0.7
#819 [22:49] <TheNexusElement> *6
#820 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> What is the WAN address of the netgear router in question?
#821 [22:49] <TheNexusElement> java is allowed in the firewall
#822 [22:50] <TheNexusElement> how do i find the WAN of my router?
#823 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Check the netgear router's status page
#824 [22:51] <TheNexusElement> "70.27.156.2"
#825 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Does that match the ip from whatismyip.com ?
#826 [22:52] <TheNexusElement> yes
#827 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> ;check TheNexusElement
#828 [22:53] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: bas2-hamilton02-1176214530.dsl.bell.ca:25565 (Timed out)
#829 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Server running?
#830 [22:53] <TheNexusElement> fails to bind to port 25565
#831 [22:54] <Wug> TheNexusElement: fails to bind is a computer issue
#832 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Did you enter in an ip in server-ip of server.properties?
#833 [22:54] <Wug> ^ its probably this
#834 [22:54] <Wug> though it could be a firewall issue or conflict with other software
#835 [22:55] <TheNexusElement> right... i changed from .100 to .6
#836 [22:55] <TheNexusElement> server is up now
#837 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> ;check TheNexusElement
#838 [22:55] <WugBot> bas2-hamilton02-1176214530.dsl.bell.ca:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Help Build A New City! (0/100)
#839 [22:55] <TheNexusElement> that's it...
#840 [22:55] <Wug> no way youll be able to run 100 people on that
#841 [22:55] <Wug> you should lower it to something more reasonable
#842 [22:56] <TheNexusElement> its just a number, but i will for sure.
#843 [22:56] <TheNexusElement> does this mean the ports are open?
#844 [22:56] * GreyVulpine nods
#844 [22:57] <Wug> if you actually have anything written on the server-ip line, you can clear it
#845 [22:57] <Wug> it has a very specific purpose and the server will work just fine for you if its clear
#846 [22:57] <TheNexusElement> Apparently they are... 10 minutes ago they wern't... weird..
#847 [22:58] <TheNexusElement> Thanks, I will clear the line
#848 [22:58] <Wug> if the server-ip line has something on it, then the port issues you were having were due to that
#849 [22:58] <Wug> had*
#850 [23:00] <TheNexusElement> Never had before I switched from the dlink router
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#853 [23:02] <Wug> you probably couldnt connect to localhost
#854 [23:03] <Cryophile> even six might be overkill for bell
#855 [23:03] <Cryophile> wow
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#858 [23:04] <WugBot> Registered Iguana as alt nick of Iguana_.
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#861 [23:07] <Eddie> Derp.
#862 [23:08] <samineru> So uh, sorry to bother but there seems to be a lull. I was having a null pointer exception on launching from a fresh download.
#863 [23:11] <Wug> yeah, if your question doesnt get any attention like that, repeating yourself every here and there is fine
#864 [23:12] <Wug> you said it used to work fine on another computer
#865 [23:12] <Wug> dual graphics you say. can you post a dxdiag report
#866 [23:12] <Wug> :dx
#867 [23:12] <WugBot> dx: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#868 [23:12] <WugBot> dx: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#869 [23:13] <Wug> samineru: ^
#870 [23:13] <samineru> In process, thank you. I'm going to replicate the crash but I think it may have said OpenGL
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#872 [23:15] <samineru> dxdiag: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/544436/ minecraft crash: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/544437/
#873 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> nullpointer... that's usually the result of a bad mod
#874 [23:16] <Wug> GreyVulpine: texture pack in this case
#875 [23:16] <samineru> This is a fresh download
#876 [23:16] <samineru> Or should I delete more than the bin folder?
#877 [23:16] <Wug> delete your texture packs
#878 [23:17] <Wug> you must have an HD pack or something without a patch
#879 [23:17] <Wug> if you know which one it is, delete just that oe
#880 [23:17] <samineru> I think I know what happened, I just relinked dropbox to a different partition that is having troubles, and that's where my texturepacks are.
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#885 [23:26] <Eearslya> Are there any bugs that would cause a sheep to despawn or change colors? If so, what are they and how can I avoid them?
#886 [23:30] <Wug> I havent encountered anything like tha
#887 [23:30] <Wug> and animals do despawn, though I'm not sure colored sheep do
#888 [23:30] <Eearslya> I thought animals weren't supposed to despawn anymore?
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#890 [23:31] <samineru> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/Version_1.1#Bugs_4 I'm looking through this now
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#893 [23:33] <Eearslya> Stupid internet.
#894 [23:33] <Eearslya> But see, the only issue isn't them despawning, some of them are actually changing color.
#895 [23:34] <Eearslya> I had a full collection, one sheep for every color. I went out to a skeleton dungeon a good distance away (far enough for the chunk to be unloaded) and when I came back, I had 13 sheep, two were gray, two were cyan, and three were gray. Did the sheep eat each other? D:
#896 [23:35] <samineru> Do you have a mean friend who may have dyed them?
#897 [23:35] <Eearslya> Singleplayer.
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