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#5 [00:27] <Jackson413> chan is dying?
#6 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> Nah, currently in talks to readd this channel back to the new support page.
#7 [00:51] <Jackson413> maybe this chan can become less serious finally
#8 [00:51] <Jackson413> Kealper, how are ya buddy?
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#10 [00:54] <Wug> I dont think it will ever die
#11 [00:55] <Jackson413> where does kealper hide these days
#12 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> His Lair Of AutoIT Doom™
#13 [00:57] <NutBunnyTheConqueror> this chan will exist until eveyone who has ever asked "what is they any key" dies.
#14 [00:58] <Wug> NutBunnyTheConqueror: and the windows key
#15 [00:58] <NutBunnyTheConqueror> yes :P
#16 [01:00] * Wug rebuilt charybdis and atheme
#16 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> Lydia's the new support person at Mojang, so been trying to get in contact with her
#17 [01:00] <Wug> you havent by any chance tried lydia@mojang.com have you
#18 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> I have
#19 [01:01] <Wug> you could nag xlson when he comes back
#20 [01:01] <Wug> did I say nag
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#23 [01:13] <SinZ> GreyVulpine: Marc Watson is the support guy
#24 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> "Ill cc Lydia since she is in charge of the support nowadays :)
#25 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> /Daniel
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#27 [01:16] <SinZ> then the support lies about the employee's
#28 [01:17] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#28 [01:22] * SinZ wonders if the minecraft/mojang account duplicate bug is still in the system
#28 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Thought that was fixed
#29 [01:22] <SinZ> minecraft account has different password to mojang account still =S
#30 [01:22] <SinZ> So minecraft account password cant be changed, so I got 2 passwords to get on minecraft
#31 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Heh.
#32 [01:24] <SinZ> with classic, its fixed.
#33 [01:25] <SinZ> but its with the minecraft launcher, that the normal minecraft account can be used still
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#35 [01:41] <Wug> it feels lonely in here
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#41 [01:57] <[shodan]> I'm not sure how it happenned but I started out wanting colored glass and now I'm trying to install mysql on windows omg where did I go wrong !!! ;)
#42 [01:58] <Wug> well, you're way off base. :P
#43 [01:58] <Wug> we dont really provide help with mods here. some advice though
#44 [01:59] <Wug> make sure you're trying to install a client mod, not a server mod
#45 [01:59] <Wug> also, make sure you read the directions. mods always come with directions.
#46 [01:59] <Wug> theyre often in the place you downloaded it frpmom
#47 [01:59] <Wug> from*
#48 [01:59] <magictj> And if it still doesnt work re download minecraft or force update it
#49 [02:04] <[shodan]> oh it was more of a reflexion on what I was doing, it's working, sort of
#50 [02:04] <[shodan]> but the lenghts you have to go to install some of these mods are kinda extreme
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#54 [02:47] <magictj> anyone have a server thats like new 2 days or a week?
#55 [02:47] <Dylan> yeah
#56 [02:48] <Dylan> i remember you
#57 [02:48] <magictj> Hey dylan
#58 [02:48] <magictj> Finally
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#60 [02:49] <magictj> welcome
#61 [02:49] <Dylan> crashed
#62 [02:49] <Dylan> why new?
#63 [02:50] <magictj> well fairly new cause people are more likely to download awsome plugins and its not to crowded
#64 [02:52] <magictj> Y dyal?
#65 [02:52] <magictj> Dylan
#66 [02:53] <Dylan> XD
#67 [02:53] <magictj> wwwWhy do you ask?
#68 [02:54] <Dylan> you have a nick simler to a greifer
#69 [02:54] <magictj> nick?
#70 [02:55] <magictj> Wha ya mean i hate them they griefed server im admin on
#71 [02:56] <Dylan> well
#72 [02:56] <Dylan> search PMC
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#83 [04:35] <Affirmative> http://rakenews.com You may earn 1000$/month!!!
#84 [04:35] <Affirmative> http://rakenews.com You may earn 1000$/month!!!
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#86 [04:38] <Dylan> ...
#87 [04:38] * Grim_Reaper gives GreyVulpine a notch cookie for banning :3
#87 [04:38] * Dylan does too
#87 [04:39] * GreyVulpine noms.
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#91 [05:29] <Wug> Grim_Reaper: can I have a cookie too
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#93 [05:29] * Grim_Reaper gives Wug a cookie
#93 [05:29] <Wug> yay :3
#94 [05:29] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#95 [05:29] <Wug> hmm so
#96 [05:30] <Wug> ;fp newrule http://rakenews.com
#97 [05:30] <Wug> is it not newrule
#98 [05:30] <Wug> ;fp addrule http://rakenews.com
#99 [05:30] * Wug doesnt remember how to use his bot
#99 [05:30] <Wug> ;alias check fp
#100 [05:30] <WugBot> That is an alias.
#101 [05:30] * Wug derp
#101 [05:30] <Wug> ;wf newrule http://rakenews.com
#102 [05:30] <WugBot> Rule created for #minecrafthelp, active rule set.
#103 [05:30] <Wug> blugh
#104 [05:30] <Wug> ;wf deleterule http://rakenews.com
#105 [05:30] <WugBot> Rule deleted for #minecrafthelp, active rule cleared.
#106 [05:31] <Wug> ;wf newrule global http://rakenews.com
#107 [05:31] <WugBot> Global rule created, active rule set.
#108 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#109 [05:31] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
#110 [05:31] <Wug> ;wf add raw CS kickban %n nope
#111 [05:31] <WugBot> Added command to rule.
#112 [05:32] <Wug> ;wf add raw tell ##wugbot %n banned from %t (poker site ad thingy)
#113 [05:32] <WugBot> Added command to rule.
#114 [05:32] * Wug le test http://rakenews.com
#114 [05:32] <Wug> >.>
#115 [05:32] <Wug> <.<
#116 [05:32] <Wug> ;wf allow
#117 [05:32] <WugBot> Allowing automatic filtering in #minecrafthelp
#118 [05:32] * Wug le test http://rakenews.com
#118 [05:32] <GreyVulpine> I think you borked it
#119 [05:32] * Wug checks flags
#119 [05:33] * Wug sheepishly gives wugbot +r
#119 [05:33] <Wug> http://rakenews.com is awesome
#120 [05:33] <Wug> still nothing
#121 [05:34] <Wug> maybe I did bork it 0.0
#122 [05:36] * Wug kicked Wug from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ug :WARNING: DERPES)
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#124 [05:36] <Wug> ;wf remove 0
#125 [05:36] <WugBot> Removed command from rule.
#126 [05:36] <Wug> ;wf remove 0
#127 [05:36] <WugBot> Removed command from rule.
#128 [05:36] <Grim_Reaper> /;removewug
#129 [05:36] <Wug> ;wf add raw CS kickban %t %n nope
#130 [05:36] <WugBot> Added command to rule.
#131 [05:37] <Wug> ;wf add tell ##wugbot %n banned from %t [poker website spambot]
#132 [05:37] <WugBot> Added command to rule.
#133 [05:37] <Wug> http://rakenews.com
#134 [05:37] * ChanServ kicked Wug from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ug :(WugBot) nope)
#135 [05:37] <Grim_Reaper> ;unban Wug
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#137 [05:37] <Wug> FIXED IT
#138 [05:37] <Grim_Reaper> You should get an ;unban
#139 [05:37] * GreyVulpine snrks
#139 [05:37] <Wug> I have one
#140 [05:37] <Grim_Reaper> Does it work ._.
#141 [05:37] <Wug> but I also have /cs which is shorter
#142 [05:38] * Wug and chanserv are bros
#142 [05:38] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#143 [05:38] <Wug> ;save
#144 [05:38] <Wug> so uh, dont say that limk
#145 [05:38] <Wug> link* mmk
#146 [05:38] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
#147 [05:38] <Grim_Reaper> You're tempting me >_>
#148 [05:38] <Wug> wugbot can ban you from pretty much everywhere
#149 [05:39] <Grim_Reaper> what about http://r@kenews.com
#150 [05:39] <Grim_Reaper> :3
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#153 [05:39] <Wug> well
#154 [05:39] <Wug> if you're tempted, you should connect to wug.me
#155 [05:39] <Wug> GreyVulpine: you're cordially invited too
#156 [05:39] <Grim_Reaper> o_O
#157 [05:39] * Wug has been playing with bots
#157 [05:39] <Grim_Reaper> irc wise or?
#158 [05:39] <Wug> port 6667, #derp
#159 [05:40] <Wug> yes, this is an irc server
#160 [05:40] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#161 [05:40] <Grim_Reaper> /server -m irc.wug.me?
#162 [05:40] <Wug> brand smashing new, I just finished updating to the latest versions of charybdis and atheme
#163 [05:40] <Wug> just wug.me
#164 [05:40] <Grim_Reaper> k
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#166 [05:52] * Wug grabs GreyVulpine "go back, youll enjoy watching"
#166 [05:52] <Grim_Reaper> Kinky..
#167 [05:52] <Wug> :<
#168 [05:53] <Grim_Reaper> You scared him off
#169 [05:53] <Grim_Reaper> Poor GreyVulpine
#170 [05:53] <Grim_Reaper> GreyVulpine Wug has asked me to nag you to come back
#171 [05:53] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#172 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> Never!
#173 [05:53] <Grim_Reaper> If you dont. He will post nudes of you
#174 [05:54] <Grim_Reaper> With bildramer
#175 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> o.O
#176 [05:54] <Grim_Reaper> So yeah. Your choice ^___^
#177 [05:55] <Wug> dont ask how I got them
#178 [05:55] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#179 [05:55] * GreyVulpine counters with blackmail material of Wug and Kealper.
#179 [05:55] <Wug> D:<
#180 [05:55] <Wug> YOU WOULD NEVER
#181 [05:55] <Grim_Reaper> Those are photoshopped GreyVulpine D:
#182 [05:55] <Kealper> D:
#183 [05:55] <Wug> anyway you should totally go back
#184 [05:55] <Wug> Kealper: YOU SHOULD COME TOO
#185 [05:55] * Kealper coughs AutoIT
#185 [05:55] <Grim_Reaper> inb4 whole #minecrafthelp goes lol
#186 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> Save yourself Kealper!
#187 [05:55] * Kealper hides
#187 [05:56] <Wug> Kealper: do you want to see wugbot be a badass
#188 [05:56] <Grim_Reaper> Say yes and you get free cookies
#189 [05:56] <Grim_Reaper> ;-;
#190 [05:56] * Xryncre is hiding
#190 [05:56] * Wug rot13s kealper back
#190 [05:56] <bildramer> eh
#191 [05:56] <Kealper> !op
#192 [05:56] <Kealper> we need this
#193 [05:56] <Grim_Reaper> :D
#194 [05:56] <Grim_Reaper> Your op didn't work well
#195 [05:56] <Wug> BILDRAMER YOU SHOUDL COME TOO
#196 [05:56] <Wug> BILDRAMER YOU SHOUDL COME TOO
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#199 [05:56] <bildramer> where
#200 [05:56] <bildramer> where to*
#201 [05:56] <Wug> !op only works with botserv bots
#202 [05:56] <Grim_Reaper> wug.me irc
#203 [05:57] <Wug> bildramer: I'm doing something on another irc network
#204 [05:57] <Grim_Reaper> Oh I thought there was a botserv here
#205 [05:57] <Kealper> Wug: i know, we need a botserv bot lol
#206 [05:57] <Kealper> or one that has !op
#207 [05:57] <Grim_Reaper> Can we bring a bot here called Notch-Bot :D?
#208 [05:57] <Wug> wugbot has ;op
#209 [05:57] <Grim_Reaper> ;op
#210 [05:57] <Grim_Reaper> ;-;
#211 [05:57] <Wug> ;op
#212 [05:57] <Kealper> ;deop
#213 [05:57] <Grim_Reaper> Hax
#214 [05:57] <Kealper> ;deop
#215 [05:57] <Kealper> ;deop kealper
#216 [05:57] <Kealper> >:|
#217 [05:57] <Wug> I dont think you guys have permissions for that :/
#218 [05:57] <Grim_Reaper> You're not on the list of WugBot's allowed nicks
#219 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> !deop Wug
#220 [05:58] <Wug> anyway bildramer Kealper
#221 [05:58] <Grim_Reaper> ;cl ;op
#222 [05:58] <WugBot> Nonexistant Command.
#223 [05:58] <Grim_Reaper> wait D:
#224 [05:58] <bildramer> ...?
#225 [05:58] <Wug> /server wug.me 6667 then /join #derp
#226 [05:58] <Kealper> do i has to
#227 [05:58] <Grim_Reaper> ;lc ;op
#228 [05:58] <Wug> yus
#229 [05:58] <Grim_Reaper> oh wait
#230 [05:58] <Grim_Reaper> ;lc op
#231 [05:58] <bildramer> you mean
#232 [05:58] <bildramer> irc://wug.me:6667/derp
#233 [05:58] <Grim_Reaper> ;cl op
#234 [05:58] <WugBot> Command op has userlevel requirement 4 or requires one of the user flags +oO.
#235 [05:58] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#236 [05:58] <Wug> bildramer: that will do
#237 [06:00] * Kealper writes !op, !deop, !voice, !devoice to aubot
#237 [06:01] <Kealper> AuBot: nou
#238 [06:01] <Wug> GreyVulpine: YOU MUST
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#240 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> !deop wug
#241 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> Never!
#242 [06:03] <Wug> you must
#243 [06:03] <Wug> it will be epic
#244 [06:03] <Kealper> oh, GreyBot has those?
#245 [06:04] * Kealper closes mod_mchelp.au3 then
#245 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> Meh, it's a grey-only thing
#246 [06:04] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#247 [06:04] <GreyKealper> !deop wug
#248 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#249 [06:04] <GreyKealper> no?
#250 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> erm, no
#251 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> It's ghetto, but not that ghetto
#252 [06:04] <Kealper> rofl
#253 [06:04] <Grim_Reaper> Grey_Vulpine
#254 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> !op wug
#255 [06:04] <Grim_Reaper> might work
#256 [06:05] <Wug> GreyVulpine: ur gonna miss it
#257 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> I've dealt with many a botnet in my time. I'll pass, thanks.
#258 [06:09] <SinZ> botnet, where?\
#259 [06:10] <SinZ> nvm
#260 [06:22] <bildramer> eh
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#262 [06:28] <Vunistas> Alrighty I posted on the forums yesterday and got NO help or replies. Still waiting. Thought I'd come here and ask the question. I bought premium yesterday and have been trying to log in but it keeps telling me "Can't connect to Minecraft.net" and will not let me play offline because it's 'not downloaded'
#263 [06:28] <Vunistas> How do I fix this?
#264 [06:28] <Vunistas> I tried playing in single player on the browser in classic but that did nothing
#265 [06:28] <Vunistas> Someone told me it would help but it didn't.,
#266 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> Vunistas - As we're not connected to the forums, we don't see requests for help there. (Also, many of us won't touch the forums with a 10-foot pole)
#267 [06:30] <GreyVulpine> Could you start off with telling us what operating system you run?
#268 [06:30] <Vunistas> Ahh okay. No I meant I had already tried to forums and came here for a last resort. My operating system is Windows 7.
#269 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> Vunistas - Could you please go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#270 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> Press enter. Tell us if the folder it takes you to, has a ! symbol in it
#271 [06:32] <Vunistas> I see no ! symbol anywhere
#272 [06:32] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Do you know what version of java you're running?
#273 [06:33] <Vunistas> The most updated version, Version 6 Update 30
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#275 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Could you head here: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#276 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> Tell us if you see "Bad login" there
#277 [06:36] <Vunistas> My IE and Firefox tells me it has a problem loading the page: An error occurred during a connection to login.minecraft.net. SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length. (Error code: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long)
#278 [06:37] <Wug> ??
#279 [06:37] <Wug> theres one I havent heard of before
#280 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> Erm. Hmm.
#281 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> Vunistas - Could you head to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd and press enter. A black command prompt should pop up, there, type in: ping login.minecraft.net
#282 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> I need to know the ip address it resolves to.
#283 [06:41] <Vunistas> 127.0.0.1 It says
#284 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> That would be why...
#285 [06:42] <Vunistas> Oh how do I fix this?
#286 [06:42] <Vunistas> By the way, THANK you for helping me. This is the most help I have gotten from anyone.
#287 [06:42] <Wug> yar har fiddle dee dee
#288 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> Please go to your start menu. Go to All programs -> accessories, and find Notepad. Right click on it, and run as admin
#289 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> Once you have notepad open, please go up to File -> Open. There, type in:
#290 [06:43] <Wug> next time don't pirate minecraft
#291 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> %systemroot%\System32\drivers\etc\hosts
#292 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Let me know when you have that open
#293 [06:44] <Vunistas> Okay I have it open.
#294 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Along the bottom, do you see an entry for 127.0.0.1 login.minecraft.net ?
#295 [06:45] <Vunistas> Yeah
#296 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Please remove any line(s) that have that, and re-save the file.
#297 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Then run minecraft again.
#298 [06:46] <Vunistas> Including this one? # 127.0.0.1 localhost
#299 [06:46] <Vunistas> Just want to be sure it's all the 127's and not just the bottom line
#300 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> No, just the 127.0.0.1 login.minecraft.net
#301 [06:46] <Vunistas> Alrighty
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#303 [06:48] <Vunistas> It works! thanks so much. I freaking feared I'd have wasted a premium account. I'll be dead honest, I did pirate it at first. I wanted to be sure I'd like the game before buying it and after playing it for a bit I bought a premium account.
#304 [06:48] * GreyVulpine nods.
#304 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> We see this often enough.
#305 [06:48] * Wug coughs
#305 [06:49] * GreyVulpine hands Wug some cough drops.
#305 [06:49] * Wug hands GreyVulpine a botnet
#305 [06:50] * GreyVulpine destroys said botnet with some liberal use of zlines.
#305 [06:50] <Vunistas> Well I'm off to delete my forums post and to play minecraft, once again I thank you.
#306 [06:50] <Wug> now you see, this is why you were supposed to visit that channel
#307 [06:51] <Wug> because watching bots kill bots is amusing
#308 [06:51] * GreyVulpine shrugs.
#308 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> I've really had my fill of botnets.
#309 [06:52] <Wug> it isnt really a botnet, I dont have one of those >.>
#310 [06:52] <Wug> its just a bunch of sockses
#311 [06:52] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#311 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> Well, you haven't flexed your IRC muscles 'till you've had to deal with russian/romanian botnets, connecting from hundreds of infected PCs, all with different IPs.. using your network as a control point
#312 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> It isn't fun.
#313 [06:54] <Wug> using network as a control point would be easy enough to solve probably, I think
#314 [06:54] <Wug> they tend to all be in a channel
#315 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> Sure. But you can't be there, watching #services 24/7
#316 [06:55] <Wug> lol thats what bots are for
#317 [06:55] <Wug> I think operserv has a command to akill everyone in a channel
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#319 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> They'll just bring on more bots, from IPs you didn't ban, till you've filled up your akill list
#320 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> There is a limit to how many entries you can put in an akill. Trust me, I know
#321 [06:58] <Wug> thats what things like wugbot are for
#322 [06:58] <Wug> well, souped up mega wugbot
#323 [06:59] * GreyVulpine shakes, "Something you'll want to nip at the connection-level, not when the bots are already on your network"
#323 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> regex is your friend.
#324 [07:00] <Wug> yeah, zline will do that for you
#325 [07:01] <Wug> I'm sure you could just zline all of romania
#326 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> The botnet may be controlled from romania.. but it doesn't mean the zombies are.
#327 [07:02] <Wug> ban all the things
#328 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> You may have it easy, and get people using mibbit, or a particular hostmask, or a ip range.
#329 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> What about real name fields?
#330 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> Give me a *-zline that'll match that
#331 [07:04] <GreyVulpine> (hint: there isn't one)
#332 [07:04] <Wug> peh ill tell you a sectry
#333 [07:04] <Wug> secret*
#334 [07:04] * Wug isnt an oper anywhere except his test network
#334 [07:05] * GreyVulpine nods
#334 [07:05] * GreyVulpine has been an oper for too freakin long.
#334 [07:05] <Wug> charybdis uses different names for a lot of the lines
#335 [07:05] <Wug> is confuuusing
#336 [07:06] * GreyVulpine is an oper on a network running UltimateIRCd
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#350 [09:14] <Dylan> I need help
#351 [09:15] <Dylan> #minecraft related
#352 [09:15] <Dylan> #minecraft related
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#354 [09:42] <Cryophile> There is no Minecraft, Dylan.
#355 [09:42] <Dylan> idiot
#356 [09:42] <Boreeas> Dylan: How about giving us some more information?
#357 [09:42] * Dylan shoots Cryophile
#357 [09:43] <Dylan> HEADSHOT!
#358 [09:43] <Dylan> bye
#359 [09:43] <Dylan> XD
#360 [09:43] <Dylan> XD
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#362 [09:43] <Boreeas> Wat
#363 [09:46] <xales> Wug: derp
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#373 [10:50] <Aikar> http://9gag.com/gag/2402531
#374 [10:50] <Aikar> everyone in my group just busted out laughing to that picture
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#377 [10:59] <nazrin> i accidentally deleted my minecraft.jar file from my mac osc and emptied trash! how do i get it back?
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#382 [11:06] <Kryzz> hi, i have a problem with server backup
#383 [11:06] <Kryzz> i backed up the minecraft folder on my server to a usb-memory and it seemed to have whiped the server clean....
#384 [11:07] <Kryzz> or at least it spawns a new world when i start the server again
#385 [11:07] <Kryzz> i use ubuntu for my server
#386 [11:07] <Boreeas> Kryzz: are you using bukkit?
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#388 [11:08] <Kryzz> i dont think so, what is it ?
#389 [11:08] <GROMOR_RUS> who can help me to find a script or a programm that can backup my server and map?
#390 [11:08] <Boreeas> Nevermind it, it is a wrapper
#391 [11:08] <Boreeas> Kryzz: Do you still have a folder called "world", Kryzz?
#392 [11:09] <Kryzz> yes, i havnt really changed anything, just copied it to usb
#393 [11:09] <Kryzz> but yes
#394 [11:09] <GROMOR_RUS> heey
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#396 [11:10] <Boreeas> Kryzz: Did you change anything in the world since then? Try overwriting the folder from your usb-stick?
#397 [11:10] <GROMOR_RUS> who can help me to find a script or a programm that can backup my server and map?
#398 [11:11] <Kryzz> i did copy the things back from usb after i noticed it had reset
#399 [11:11] <Boreeas> Hmm
#400 [11:11] <Kryzz> the .dat-files are still in the folder "vince1", its the name of the server
#401 [11:11] <GROMOR_RUS> can anyone here help me?
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#403 [11:12] <Boreeas> Did you modify the server.properties at all?
#404 [11:12] <Boreeas> ??> GROMOR_RUS patience
#405 [11:12] <VoxelHead> GROMOR_RUS: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#406 [11:12] <VoxelHead> GROMOR_RUS: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#407 [11:12] <Kryzz> no
#408 [11:12] <Boreeas> Then try deleting it
#409 [11:12] <Kryzz> :x
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#411 [11:14] <Kryzz> well, now ofcourse it'll spawn a new world
#412 [11:14] <Kryzz> since my server folder isnt "world" its "vince1"
#413 [11:14] <Kryzz> confirmed
#414 [11:15] <Boreeas> I though you didn't modify the server.properties?
#415 [11:15] <Kryzz> oh, i misunderstood you
#416 [11:15] <Kryzz> i havnt changed it since my problem appeared
#417 [11:16] <Kryzz> hm
#418 [11:16] <Boreeas> Try editing it now, sow it says "vince1" again
#419 [11:16] <Kryzz> i did, its the same world, i just dont have my inventory and spawnpoint saved
#420 [11:16] <Kryzz> so it seemed like a new world
#421 [11:17] <Boreeas> Ah
#422 [11:17] <Kryzz> this tiem i spawned within sight of one of my "where the hell am i?" -pillars/lookout-towers of dirt =)
#423 [11:18] <Kryzz> time*
#424 [11:22] <Kryzz> any ideas Boreeas ?
#425 [11:22] <Boreeas> Not really, except for a corrupt save file
#426 [11:22] <Boreeas> My recommendation: Get bukkit, and a plugin that can set spawn points
#427 [11:23] <Kryzz> how would that help ?
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#429 [11:25] <Kryzz> i also get java.io.EOFException when i start the server now ...
#430 [11:25] <Boreeas> Kryzz: It would save the force a spawnpoint to be set, and also save it in a external filöe that would not be as prone to file corruption
#431 [11:26] <Boreeas> Be aware, however, that we mostly don't give help for bukkit and its related plugins here
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#433 [11:29] <Kryzz> so my save os screwed?
#434 [11:29] <Kryzz> is*
#435 [11:30] <Boreeas> Well, you could try opening it in worldedit and see if that fixes anything
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#438 [11:39] <Kryzz> Boreeas: you think its just my player (only one logged in today) or all players on the serveR?
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#441 [11:45] <Boreeas> Kryzz: I honestly have no idea. Test it and see?
#442 [11:46] <Kryzz> i will, asked a friend to log in, thnx for the help.
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#448 [12:08] <mtdark> Hey all, for some reason when I host SMP, it always brings me back to spawn when I log out and log back in
#449 [12:08] <mtdark> it doesn't seem to keep/leave me where I was left at
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#452 [12:13] <AureliusM> mtdark: is your inventory the same when you log back in ?
#453 [12:13] <AureliusM> mtdark: And does this happen when you use a vanilla client?
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#462 [12:50] <dervishkid> hey guys)
#463 [12:50] <magictj> hi
#464 [12:51] <dervishkid> i got a good one? old bug but i thought maybe it can be fixed.. the overworld and the nether are merging.
#465 [12:52] <Boreeas> Sorry?
#466 [12:52] <dervishkid> anyone to split them apart again. or is it game over for this server seed and restart
#467 [12:52] <magictj> boreeas will mean can you give more information plugin?
#468 [12:52] <dervishkid> the overworld ( earth ) and the Nether ( hell) are becoming one.
#469 [12:53] <Cryophile> dervishkid: SSP?
#470 [12:54] <dervishkid> aye
#471 [12:54] <dervishkid> well no
#472 [12:54] <dervishkid> SMP
#473 [12:54] <dervishkid> be a shame to reset the world they a few good folks built so much on lol
#474 [12:54] <Cryophile> I haven't seen that one in a while
#475 [12:55] <Cryophile> Hmm
#476 [12:55] <dervishkid> aye. i read about it. but i not seen it. not sure why it came back lol
#477 [12:56] <Cryophile> Well, I don't think it was ever fixed
#478 [12:56] <Cryophile> It's just very uncommon
#479 [12:56] <dervishkid> welp it's happened lol
#480 [12:56] <Cryophile> I'm not entirely sure if there is a way to fix it. You could try to delete the chunks.
#481 [12:56] <Cryophile> Perhaps it will generate the correct chunks again
#482 [12:56] <dervishkid> useing MC edit or something like that//
#483 [12:57] <Cryophile> Afaik it only does this on chunk generation
#484 [12:57] <Cryophile> and not when they reload
#485 [12:57] <Cryophile> Yeah, with mcedit or something
#486 [12:57] <dervishkid> humm not true thier;)
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#488 [12:57] <Cryophile> Oh? It's reloading previously generated chunks incorrectly?
#489 [12:57] <dervishkid> one of the building the poeple built is not a 170 block tall Nether rack filled with lava:)
#490 [12:57] <Cryophile> vanilla server?
#491 [12:58] <dervishkid> almost vanilla.
#492 [12:58] <dervishkid> i do got a anti town grief plugin
#493 [12:58] <Cryophile> I mean to say... not bukkit?
#494 [12:59] <dervishkid> think it could be a plug in?
#495 [12:59] <dervishkid> i noticed it happened after a good deal of them went in and out of the nether a few times for stuff from in thier
#496 [12:59] <Cryophile> Are you using bukkit or the vanilla server?
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#498 [13:00] <dervishkid> Bukkit
#499 [13:00] <Cryophile> Hrm, I'm not sure bukkit discussions are appropriate here. We may need to move to #bukkit.
#500 [13:00] <Cryophile> Using NoLagg?
#501 [13:00] <dervishkid> ha no
#502 [13:01] <Cryophile> Hm, okay. I know chunk teleportation was a serious bug in one version of that.
#503 [13:01] <Cryophile> Move to #bukkit, though.
#504 [13:01] <dervishkid> ahh well. i get it fixed. i just use MC edit to move building ect to a new Seed built.
#505 [13:01] <Cryophile> That would work
#506 [13:01] <dervishkid> and i check my plugins make sure it's not one of them
#507 [13:01] <Cryophile> Which plugins are you using?
#508 [13:02] <dervishkid> town protect, store
#509 [13:02] <dervishkid> think i ditch the store plug in. no one used it anyway
#510 [13:03] <dervishkid> thanks all. i got work to do:)
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#515 [13:29] <Roophus> hi
#516 [13:30] <Roophus> MineCraft won't start up since 1.8 and I could never really figure what's the reason ...
#517 [13:31] <Roophus> I log in and screen stays black
#518 [13:31] <Roophus> any hint greatly appreciated
#519 [13:40] <Aikar> Roophus: force update?
#520 [13:40] <Aikar> did you mod MC and forget to delete meta-inf?
#521 [13:41] <Aikar> I personally use MCPatcher for mods now to know about conflicts
#522 [13:42] <Roophus> after I couldn't start minecraft I removed everything and tried a clean version, which didn't work either
#523 [13:45] <Roophus> I also updated java to be sure to have the latest version
#524 [13:45] <Roophus> (1.6.0_27)
#525 [13:46] <Roophus> I can watch the packets download but then it freezes
#526 [13:53] <Morrolan> Disable your security software and try again, Roophus.
#527 [13:56] <Roophus> Morrolan: it worked up to version 1.7 ... why would a security software prevent version 1.8 and up from working?
#528 [13:57] <Morrolan> A false-positive on one of the files which changed since 1.7?
#529 [13:57] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#530 [13:57] <Roophus> hm?
#531 [13:57] <Roophus> oh .. but in this case my security software would notify me....
#532 [13:58] <Morrolan> It _should_ do so, but there are cases where some security software does not. *shrug*
#533 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#534 [13:58] <Roophus> *sigh*
#535 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> I need to learn to type faster than Morrolan >_>
#536 [13:59] <Morrolan> I think Avira (atleast some versions) thinks one of the libraries which ship with Minecraft to be malware, and AVG for example is just messed up in general.
#537 [13:59] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - Heh. ;)
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#539 [14:00] <Roophus> ok, it's not the security software
#540 [14:01] <Morrolan> Hmph, why can't it be the easiest solution. :(
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#542 [14:01] <Morrolan> Well then, two further ideas. Either try it with a new Windows account, or grab yourself the .jar launcher from minecraft.net and launch it through the console, so we get an error to work with.
#543 [14:02] <Roophus> ok, hang on
#544 [14:02] <Morrolan> If you need help with launching it through the console, let us know and we'll throw you a guide. :)
#545 [14:02] <Grim_Reaper> Why not just give him a guide. Throwing might hit him and that would hurt o.o
#546 [14:03] <Grim_Reaper> Guides are quite heavy ._.
#547 [14:04] <Morrolan> Hmm, it's quite a lightweight one though, so it won't do much harm. :)
#548 [14:04] <Morrolan> 19 lines only, of which 7 are empty.
#549 [14:04] <Roophus> I read a bit about the guides and there seem quite a few different approaches
#550 [14:04] <Morrolan> http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#551 [14:04] <Roophus> for example memory vs graphics
#552 [14:06] <Roophus> ok, starting via console gives me a blank screen agaun
#553 [14:06] <Roophus> *again
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#555 [14:07] <Morrolan> And does it show any error in the console?
#556 [14:07] <Morrolan> IF yes then put it up on pastebin.com please.
#557 [14:07] <Morrolan> To copy from the console: right click -> select all -> enter -> ctrl-v to paste it wherever you want
#558 [14:08] <Roophus> it works witht he launcher >.>
#559 [14:08] <Roophus> \o/
#560 [14:08] <Roophus> but why!
#561 [14:08] <Morrolan> Heh. Couldn't tell.
#562 [14:09] <Roophus> what's Xmx and Xms?
#563 [14:09] <Morrolan> xms is the amount of RAM it uses at startup, and XMX is the maximum amount of RAM it is allowed to use.
#564 [14:09] <Morrolan> You can increase that one if you want.
#565 [14:09] <Roophus> ok
#566 [14:10] <Morrolan> 1024M, aka ~1 GB should be enough, but if youv'e got a lot of spare RAM then you could also assign it two GBs.
#567 [14:11] <Roophus> ok, it freezes with Xmx768M
#568 [14:12] <Roophus> though I actually should have some GB of RAM left >.>
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#570 [14:12] <Rainweaver> i need help
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#572 [14:14] <Rainweaver> i need help with m y server
#573 [14:14] <hi> i accedently eleted my bin folder how do i get it back?
#574 [14:15] <Morrolan> Roophus - Mind you that you should make sure that your system has atleast 1 GB left.
#575 [14:15] <Morrolan> hi - Your Minecraft folder? I suggest you check your recyle bin.
#576 [14:15] <Morrolan> If it's not in there anymore then there is nothing you can do.
#577 [14:15] <Morrolan> Rainweaver - Be more specific please.
#578 [14:15] <hi> ok thx :)
#579 [14:15] <Roophus> hi: download it again?
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#581 [14:16] <Morrolan> Roophus - He might have been talking about the .minecraft folder in %appdata%, with the saves and stuff.
#582 [14:16] * Roophus would like to understand why it works with 256M but not with 512M ... -.-
#582 [14:16] <Rainweaver> Sorry. when i run the server exe all i get is it glitching out saying "generating new properties files" above that it just glitches out on 29 and 37 until i have to endtask it off
#583 [14:16] <Morrolan> Roophus - Well, I suggest you check how much RAM your PC has.
#584 [14:16] <Roophus> 2,8GB
#585 [14:17] <Morrolan> What a strange amount of RAM. Either way, I wouldn't see why you couldn't launch it with 1 GB then. :/
#586 [14:17] <Morrolan> Rainweaver - What do you mean with "glitches out on 29 and 37"?
#587 [14:17] <Roophus> 1,6GB RAM available
#588 [14:18] <Roophus> java has turned against me! ;)
#589 [14:18] <Morrolan> After generating the properties file it should generate the world, or, if one is there already, show something like "Loading spawn area"
#590 [14:18] <Rainweaver> "at rh.a(sourcefile29)" "at rh.b(sourcefile37)"
#591 [14:18] <Rainweaver> this is one my server
#592 [14:19] <imagirl> hi ummm when i load minecrft it says done loading and it has a bar that almost completley full how do i fix this?
#593 [14:19] <Morrolan> imagirl - Try to force an update. Start up the launcher -> Options -> Force update -> Log in as usual.
#594 [14:19] <imagirl> ok
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#596 [14:19] <Grim_Reaper> [21:17] <@Morrolan> What a strange amount of RAM.
#597 [14:19] <Grim_Reaper> Got that right
#598 [14:19] <Morrolan> Rainweaver - And this happens with the server you downloaded from www.minecraft.net/download.jsp ?
#599 [14:20] <Rainweaver> yup but only during the day. i can get it to work normally at night O.O this is why im confused
#600 [14:20] <Morrolan> Rainweaver - Uh. This does sound strange indeed.
#601 [14:21] <Rainweaver> i could attempt at getting screenshots but idk ><
#602 [14:21] <imagirl> it didnt work :(
#603 [14:21] <Morrolan> imagirl - Did it ever work before?
#604 [14:21] <imagirl> yes
#605 [14:21] <imagirl> i played it befor school ol
#606 [14:21] <Morrolan> Rainweaver - Better idea, put up the server.log file on Pastebin.com and give us the URL.
#607 [14:21] <Morrolan> imagirl - Are you on WIndows, Mac or Linux?
#608 [14:22] <imagirl> umm accer lol
#609 [14:22] <Rainweaver> its working now O.o?? what is going on with this dang thing...
#610 [14:23] <imagirl> ....
#611 [14:23] <Morrolan> imagirl - I assume chances are pretty high that you're on WIndows then. FOllow these instructions please:
#612 [14:23] <Morrolan> ??> imagirl win/reinst
#613 [14:23] <VoxelHead> imagirl: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#614 [14:23] <VoxelHead> imagirl: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#615 [14:24] <imagirl> woah im so confused lol
#616 [14:24] <Rainweaver> Thank you for all your time
#617 [14:24] <Rainweaver> @morrolan if it messes up again i'll be back
#618 [14:24] <imagirl> o wait i get t
#619 [14:24] <imagirl> thx it worked
#620 [14:24] <Morrolan> Sure thing, Rainweaver. We'll be here. :)
#621 [14:25] <Morrolan> imagirl - Good to hear. :)
#622 [14:25] <imagirl> : thx ya
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#625 [14:28] <Roophus> how can I switch to fullscreen?
#626 [14:29] <Morrolan> F11
#627 [14:29] <madbro> ok i no this probally has almost nothing to do with u peoples but if u no the awnser could you tell me can you install to mods at the same time?
#628 [14:29] <Grim_Reaper> I just maximize >_> Even though it's not full fullscreen..
#629 [14:29] <Morrolan> This really depends on the mobs, madbro.
#630 [14:29] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#631 [14:29] <Morrolan> Some can be installed together, others can't.
#632 [14:29] <Grim_Reaper> You should check the minecraft forums about that
#633 [14:30] <madbro> okk good to no
#634 [14:30] <Grim_Reaper> If you're meaning server mods. Try #bukkit
#635 [14:30] <Roophus> finally: is there a forum where I can ask why I can start with Xmx256MB but Xmx512MB ?
#636 [14:31] <Morrolan> You could ask on the Minecraftforum, but chances of getting an answer there are, meh.
#637 [14:31] <Roophus> :/
#638 [14:32] <Morrolan> You could idle here some more until some of the other guys are back, one of them might have an idea.
#639 [14:32] <Roophus> ok ^^
#640 [14:32] * Grim_Reaper throws Morrolan a cookie
#640 [14:32] * Morrolan grabs it
#640 [14:32] * Roophus has the ram ... I'd also like to use it =D
#640 [14:32] <Roophus> thanx anyway so far ^^
#641 [14:32] * Morrolan shares the cookie with VoxelHead and Grim_Reaper
#641 [14:32] <Morrolan> Sure thing, Roophus
#642 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#643 [14:33] <Roophus> heh .. now it did crash again ... "Placed stronghold in INVALID biome at (12, 39)"
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#645 [14:34] <Morrolan> Oh, I get that error on startup all the time as well, but it never crashes.
#646 [14:35] <Roophus> ah ... then it's the error below ... "EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION" ^^
#647 [14:37] <Morrolan> Yea, that is like the most generic error possible. ^.^
#648 [14:37] <Morrolan> Removing and reinstalling Java might fix it, for example.
#649 [14:37] <Morrolan> I'm sure there are also loads of other causes, but I can't recally any of the top of my head.
#650 [14:37] <AureliusM> Roophus: paste the whole error into pastebin.com and link it here
#651 [14:37] <AureliusM> ??> Roophus pastebin
#652 [14:37] <VoxelHead> Roophus: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#653 [14:38] <Morrolan> Oh, AureliusM feels like poking around in error messages, great. :D
#654 [14:38] * Morrolan vanishes
#654 [14:38] <Roophus> o.o
#655 [14:38] <Morrolan> I assure you, he's qualified, go ahead. ;)
#656 [14:38] <Morrolan> !excuse
#657 [14:39] <Morrolan> Hmm, could have sworn one of the bots here had such a command.
#658 [14:39] <Morrolan> ;excuse
#659 [14:39] <Morrolan> Oh well, I gotta look after my collection of tapeworms, sorry.
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#661 [14:40] <AureliusM> Roophus: you're getting an error with -xmx 768 and -xmx 512 but not -xmx 256M ? Without the full error I'm guessing it's memory insufficient for whatever the graphics card and system needs.
#662 [14:41] <Roophus> AureliusM: I don't get an error, that's the catch. The program simply freezes
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#664 [14:41] <AureliusM> Roophus: where was that Exception reported ?
#665 [14:41] <Roophus> I ought to have some 2gb of free memory left
#666 [14:42] <Roophus> AureliusM: a crash happened while playing. Xmx256M
#667 [14:42] <AureliusM> Roophus: It's best to look at the actual error. Are you using mods or high def texture packs?
#668 [14:42] <Roophus> If it *is* the graphics card ... are there any recommendations for AGP Pro cards? ^^'
#669 [14:43] <Roophus> AureliusM: neither. I't a clean install, java has been updated to the lates version.
#670 [14:43] <AureliusM> Roophus: Best to get the error message. Can you paste it into a pastebin for us?
#671 [14:43] <AureliusM> Roophus: Java 6 Update 30 ?
#672 [14:44] <Roophus> AureliusM: sorry to repeat myself: but there *is* no error message when I try to play with xmx512M or xmxm768M - the program simply freezes
#673 [14:44] <Roophus> update 27 >.>
#674 [14:44] <AureliusM> Roophus: Does crash or freeze happen even with no browser running?
#675 [14:44] <Roophus> AureliusM: no browser running
#676 [14:45] <AureliusM> Roophus: When you use the run.bat from http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh - do you get an error message in the black command window? Have you tried that same run.bat with 512 and seen no error message?
#677 [14:45] <Roophus> AureliusM: exactly.
#678 [14:46] <Roophus> I have to kill the java process to get control back
#679 [14:46] <AureliusM> Roophus: The black command window just shows "OpenAL initialized." as the last line ?
#680 [14:46] <Roophus> yupp
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#683 [14:49] <AureliusM> Roophus: Hmm, that's a freeze alright. I'm not sure about those, for some they happen when browser open, for others when Flash video has been opened in full screen. You could try changing Windows user and changing back again (without logging out of the Windows user).
#684 [14:50] <Roophus> hmm ... I'll try with a fresh user.
#685 [14:50] <Roophus> Hang on.
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#687 [14:55] <Diablodoct0r> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2Jxs7lR8ZI
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#691 [15:02] * Wug doops into existence
#691 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> About time.
#692 [15:02] * GreyVulpine kicks Wug for downtime
#692 [15:02] <Grim_Reaper> ...
#693 [15:02] <Grim_Reaper> Dont hit mah fwiend ;-;
#694 [15:03] * Wug makes a shell script
#694 [15:03] * Grim_Reaper throws a wild wug at GreyVulpine
#694 [15:03] <Wug> while (true) ./IRCBot -nd
#695 [15:03] <Wug> wugbot crashes? NO PROBLEMO
#696 [15:03] * Wug accidentally forgets the -nd and gets klined for flooding connects
#696 [15:04] * GreyVulpine sautees said wild wug with wild mushrooms and a creamy sauce made with white wine.
#696 [15:04] <Wug> ... why did it have to be mushrooms
#697 [15:04] <Grim_Reaper> ..
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#699 [15:05] * GreyVulpine serves it up on a bed of the finest NY steak strips, and lightly dusts it with bacon crumbs
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#700 [15:05] * Wug eats self
#700 [15:05] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#701 [15:05] <Grim_Reaper> Poor wug =\
#702 [15:06] <Wug> lol I should art wug themed things
#703 [15:06] <Grim_Reaper> Good idea
#704 [15:06] <Wug> putting aside the fact that I cannot art
#705 [15:06] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#706 [15:07] <Wug> I need a tshirt that says "this is a wug" with the picture
#707 [15:07] <Grim_Reaper> :D
#708 [15:08] <Wug> I should mail the idea to thinkgeek
#709 [15:08] <Grim_Reaper> maybe make a google doodle
#710 [15:08] <Wug> lol
#711 [15:08] <Wug> a google logo made of wugs
#712 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> :3
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#722 [15:28] <Lykkepillen> What would happen if i took a region file from one world and put it into another?
#723 [15:28] <Lykkepillen> Like.. Made something on one server and transfered it to another to reduce downtime
#724 [15:29] <Wug> region files are very large
#725 [15:29] <Wug> you would probably regret it
#726 [15:29] <Boreeas> No. Regrets.
#727 [15:30] <Lykkepillen> Well.. My admins are talking about making their own binome.. And they keep telling me how large they want it
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#729 [15:32] <Lykkepillen> Anyway, would it be possible or would my world get corrupted somehow?
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#731 [15:36] <Roophus> re
#732 [15:36] <Roophus> AureliusM: I set up a different user bust with the exact same results
#733 [15:36] <AureliusM> Roophus: Ok, we should check the graphics drivers are correct: please do a DxDiag, instructions from VoxelHead follow:
#734 [15:37] <AureliusM> ??> Roophus win/dxdiag
#735 [15:37] <VoxelHead> Roophus: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#736 [15:37] <VoxelHead> Roophus: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#737 [15:37] <Roophus> except that it wouldn't start in the beginning, claiming it couldn't find the "lastlogin" file >.>
#738 [15:37] <Roophus> AureliusM: ok ...
#739 [15:40] <AureliusM> Roophus: lastlogin not found - that's normal if you have reinstalled minecraft by deleting all files except the saves. Or you launched minecraft in a new Windows user for the first time.
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#741 [15:41] <Roophus> AureliusM: yupp ... I copied the lastlogin file from the user user and it worked =)
#742 [15:42] <Roophus> 62kb of info? XD
#743 [15:43] <Roophus> what does "Display Memory: 256.0 MB" mean in the graphics card section?
#744 [15:43] <AureliusM> Roophus: dxdiag does produce a lot of text, we need all down to the "Sound Devices" unless there are sound problems too, but just copy and paste the whole lot into a pastebin.com
#745 [15:44] <AureliusM> Roophus: Display Memory means how much RAM the graphics card is set to use. What's the Memory and Page File show? Best is if you give us the pastebin.
#746 [15:45] <Roophus> pastebin on the way ...
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#748 [15:46] <Roophus> http://pastebin.com/Vyz6r0Au
#749 [15:47] <Roophus> Memory: 2816MB RAM, Page File: 568MB used, 2191MB available
#750 [15:47] <AureliusM> Roophus: RADEON 9600 SERIES - but the driver date is 2004 - must be a newer driver for that, I'll look
#751 [15:48] <Roophus> wow, I never noticed that o.o
#752 [15:48] <Roophus> I installed the catalyst driver pack
#753 [15:50] <AureliusM> Roophus: Catalyst is what AMD advise: was it from here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#754 [15:51] <Roophus> errr... ATI hasn't been with AMD back in those days ;)
#755 [15:51] <Roophus> but probably yes ;)
#756 [15:52] <Roophus> I'll get thos drivers and update ... thanx a million =D
#757 [15:53] <AureliusM> Roophus: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx <-- I followed the menu from here, assuming your PC is a desktop
#758 [15:54] <Roophus> check =)
#759 [15:55] <AureliusM> Roophus: Your dxdiag also shows "RADEON 9600 SERIES - Secondary " I don't know what that means.
#760 [15:56] <Roophus> that's the secondary monitor outlet thingy
#761 [15:56] <Roophus> port
#762 [15:57] <AureliusM> Roophus: Yes, I see the 1280 x 1024 for the second one. a SyncMaster monitor. Are you using one monitor when trying minecraft?
#763 [15:57] <Roophus> no, two
#764 [16:00] <Roophus> btw... is AGP Pro = AGPx8?
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#766 [16:01] <AureliusM> Roophus: Well, I would try reinstalling the Catalyst from AMD's page and retrying Minecraft.
#767 [16:06] <AureliusM> Roophus: AGP just means Advanced Graphics port, I think 8x means the bus interface but I have little clue about these details.
#768 [16:07] <Roophus> Just pondering if there'd be a better graphics card available for my settings =)
#769 [16:08] <Roophus> brb, restart
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#772 [16:14] <Roophus> re, with updated graphics driver
#773 [16:14] <Sad_Programmer> hello!
#774 [16:15] <Sad_Programmer> i need some help
#775 [16:15] <AureliusM> Roophus: does the dxdiah show updated driver date?
#776 [16:15] <AureliusM> Roophus: dxdiag *
#777 [16:15] <Sad_Programmer> A crash error that i haven't got before
#778 [16:15] <Sad_Programmer> any1 wanna help me? :)
#779 [16:15] <AureliusM> Sad_Programmer: can you paste the full error into pastebin.com?
#780 [16:15] <Roophus> :}
#781 [16:15] <Roophus> AureliusM: yes
#782 [16:15] <AureliusM> ??> Sad_Programmer pastebin
#783 [16:15] <VoxelHead> Sad_Programmer: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#784 [16:15] <Roophus> and it works with xmx512M =)
#785 [16:16] <Roophus> *dances*
#786 [16:16] <Sad_Programmer> there was just a short error that i dont understand
#787 [16:16] <Sad_Programmer> the thing is
#788 [16:16] <Sad_Programmer> i recently downgraded my linux ubuntu
#789 [16:16] <Sad_Programmer> into 11.04
#790 [16:16] <Sad_Programmer> because i like it better
#791 [16:16] <Sad_Programmer> then i got this error "failed to get system properties"
#792 [16:16] <Roophus> (AND 1024!)
#793 [16:16] <AureliusM> Roophus: Hmm, check it also works with Fancy graphics, and full screen. Just in case there's any remaining problems.
#794 [16:16] <Sad_Programmer> D:
#795 [16:18] <AureliusM> Sad_Programmer: "failed to get system properties" usually related to graphics settings, but I'm not good with Ubuntu. They need special drivers I read. I'll look around.
#796 [16:18] <Wug> failed to get system properties is noncritical
#797 [16:18] <Wug> in other words, dont worry about it
#798 [16:19] <Wug> if it happens at the same time as another error, we need that one instead
#799 [16:19] <Roophus> AureliusM: it does \o/
#800 [16:19] <Roophus> AureliusM: thanx for the hint on the Graphics driver ... don't know why I didn't think of that myself
#801 [16:19] <AureliusM> Sad_Programmer: Ok, are there any other errors from minecraft?
#802 [16:19] <Sad_Programmer> wait
#803 [16:19] <Sad_Programmer> ima upload whole msg
#804 [16:19] <Sad_Programmer> to pastebin
#805 [16:20] <AureliusM> Roophus: If it wasn't drivers I was going to suggest reinstalling Java...
#806 [16:20] <Sad_Programmer> its at http://pastebin.com/nyjshLiB
#807 [16:20] <Sad_Programmer> :/
#808 [16:21] <Sad_Programmer> It worked before and when I had upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10
#809 [16:22] <Wug> try updating lwjgl
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#811 [16:26] <Sad_Programmer> hmm
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#813 [16:29] <Sad_Programmer> ...
#814 [16:29] <Sad_Programmer> i was away for 8 minutes...
#815 [16:30] <Sad_Programmer> what happened?
#816 [16:30] <Sad_Programmer> what do you think?
#817 [16:30] <AureliusM> Sad_Programmer: Wug suggested this: try updating lwjgl
#818 [16:30] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#819 [16:30] <Wug> I dont think we have a factoid for that
#820 [16:30] <Wug> ;search lwjgl
#821 [16:30] <WugBot> No matches for "lwjgl".
#822 [16:31] <AureliusM> Sad_Programmer: lwjgl is from http://lwjgl.org/download.php but I would not know which version is best for Ubuntu.
#823 [16:31] <Sad_Programmer> ok!
#824 [16:31] <Sad_Programmer> i suppose 2.7 is best
#825 [16:31] <Sad_Programmer> ill try them
#826 [16:31] <Sad_Programmer> ty!
#827 [16:31] <Wug> I have heard that the most recent version works
#828 [16:31] <Wug> but that the earlier versions of 2.8 did not
#829 [16:32] <Sad_Programmer> ok!
#830 [16:33] <Wug> ;+ lwjgl/update Some versions of linux may not work out of the box with the lwjgl libraries included with minecraft. You may need to update the lwjgl libraries to make minecraft run.
#831 [16:33] * AureliusM notices http://mojang.com/ has "We?ve been using a really old version of LWJGL " ... "recent LWJGL version (2.8.3) includes a bunch of fixes for those of you who play with non-latin languages"
#831 [16:34] <Sad_Programmer> I live is Sweden, so non-latin languages is not a problem for me ^^
#832 [16:35] <Wug> ;++ lwjgl/update ;;Download lwjgl (version 2.8.3) from the following link and replace the files in .../bin and .../bin/natives with the identical entries from the zip file. LWJGL download: http://lwjgl.org/download.php
#833 [16:35] <Wug> thar
#834 [16:35] <Wug> that should do it
#835 [16:37] <Sad_Programmer> i know... but NOOO! goddam**t!
#836 [16:37] <Sad_Programmer> still the same crash D:
#837 [16:38] <Sad_Programmer> now i am REALLY a sad_programmer D:
#838 [16:38] <Grim_Reaper> A Sad_Programmer is a bad programmer. A happy programmer. Is a good programmer ^___^
#839 [16:39] <Sad_Programmer> or... a sad_prgrammer just had is family killed O.O luckily i am a happy programmer then :D
#840 [16:39] <Sad_Programmer> *its family
#841 [16:39] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#842 [16:40] <Sad_Programmer> ...
#843 [16:40] <Sad_Programmer> Ima test with java 7... :)
#844 [16:40] <AureliusM> Sad_Programmer: Unless the Linux experts here suggest anything better, maybe reinstall Java from here? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-jre-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-using-ppa.html
#845 [16:41] <Sad_Programmer> i can already install java :)
#846 [16:42] <Sad_Programmer> ..... :(
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#848 [16:44] <Sad_Programmer> i still get "failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerExeption) D:
#849 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Could you copy the full error to pastebin.com?
#850 [16:47] <Sad_Programmer> i did.. here is the adress :
#851 [16:47] <Sad_Programmer> http://pastebin.com/nyjshLiB
#852 [16:47] <Sad_Programmer> but LWJGL is 2.8.3 now
#853 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Is.. that the latest error report?
#854 [16:48] <Sad_Programmer> yes... exept for the LWJGL
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#856 [16:48] <Sad_Programmer> then everything is similar
#857 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> Then it's your video drivers.
#858 [16:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> whats up :)
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#860 [16:49] <Sad_Programmer> .... but...
#861 [16:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> Question: my router is saying that, when I try to port forward, another application would interfere with that setup, yet there are no other applications applied to my computer according to the router
#862 [16:49] <Sad_Programmer> it worked fine...
#863 [16:50] <Sad_Programmer> try another port
#864 [16:50] <[L]> WhereIsMySpoon: Choose another?
#865 [16:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> er
#866 [16:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> but i thought mc needed 25565
#867 [16:50] <[L]> You can change the port in server.properties
#868 [16:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh
#869 [16:51] <[L]> You may need to connect to the IP With :WHATEVERPORT
#870 [16:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> can i do like 23000 or smth then
#871 [16:51] <[L]> Yes, as long as it's forwarded.
#872 [16:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> kk
#873 [16:51] <Sad_Programmer> The thing is... I upgraded my Ubuntu to 11.10 and then i didnt like it so i downgraded it to 11.04 It worked fine before and after the update.. but now, after the downgrade it dont D:
#874 [16:51] <[L]> An example IP: 192.168.9.9:23000
#875 [16:51] <[L]> (Doesn't work.)
#876 [16:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> ye
#877 [16:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> eh
#878 [16:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> it done it again
#879 [16:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> *its
#880 [16:55] <[L]> :l
#881 [16:55] <[L]> Is it stopping the forwarding?
#882 [16:55] * Grim_Reaper steals [L]'s L []
#882 [16:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> dont know
#883 [16:57] <Wug> Sad_Programmer: idk if you've fixed it but try different drivers
#884 [16:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> :S
#885 [16:57] <Wug> if you're not using nvidias, try that, and if you are not using the most recent, try that
#886 [16:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> this is rly weird
#887 [16:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> ive just tried like 4 different random ports in the 10ks
#888 [16:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> as in like 30ks, 20ks etc
#889 [16:58] <Wug> WhereIsMySpoon: which port
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#891 [16:58] <Sad_Programmer> hm....
#892 [16:58] <Gurkenglas> What grows faster, sugarcane or cactus?
#893 [16:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> i tried 25565 initially
#894 [16:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> then 23000
#895 [16:58] <Sad_Programmer> i use Nvidias
#896 [16:58] <Sad_Programmer> but..
#897 [16:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> now 32495
#898 [16:58] <Sad_Programmer> imma check
#899 [16:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> and also 10293
#900 [16:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> its like just random ports
#901 [16:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> :S
#902 [16:59] <Sad_Programmer> whoa
#903 [16:59] <Sad_Programmer> i didnt use one at all :S
#904 [17:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> this is really weird
#905 [17:00] <AureliusM> WhereIsMySpoon: has that router ever port forwarded successfully?
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#907 [17:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> i havent tried it before
#908 [17:01] <AureliusM> !check WhereIsMySpoon
#909 [17:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> i havent got port forwarding set up
#910 [17:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> im trying to
#911 [17:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> cf my previous comments
#912 [17:02] <AureliusM> WhereIsMySpoon: following portforward.com instructions ?
#913 [17:02] <Gurkenglas> What grows faster, sugarcane or cactus?
#914 [17:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> cactus iirc
#915 [17:02] <Sad_Programmer> cacti
#916 [17:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> !check WhereIsMySpoon
#917 [17:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> hm
#918 [17:03] <Sad_Programmer> now ima restart my computer to activate the driver :) ill be back
#919 [17:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> guess it doesnt work without assigning it to a device
#920 [17:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> why cant i assign it :S
#921 [17:03] <Calinou> Sad_Programmer: sun's java IS available for 11.04
#922 [17:03] <Calinou> not in 11.10 though, manual install required
#923 [17:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> who would use sun's java for linux
#924 [17:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> :S
#925 [17:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> this is really annoying :(
#926 [17:07] <Calinou> WhereIsMySpoon: why
#927 [17:07] <Calinou> better performance
#928 [17:07] <Calinou> I don't mind using closedsource stuff at all
#929 [17:07] * Calinou isn't an "ecologist"
#929 [17:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> what
#930 [17:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh
#931 [17:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> mostly because there isnt a repository for it
#932 [17:09] <Calinou> manual install ftw
#933 [17:10] <Calinou> especially when your download speed is 250kb/sec
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#936 [17:13] <Sad_Programmer> Thanks every1 it worked!
#937 [17:13] <Sad_Programmer> bye!
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#939 [17:23] <Wug> dem drivers
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#941 [17:24] <Wug> also for those who are curious, I've been using openjdk to run minecraft for a while now
#942 [17:25] <Wug> I find 7 to work fine, though I seem to recall running into missing libraries or something and manually fixing it
#943 [17:25] <Wug> you can grab that with sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre
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#958 [19:18] <flash1133> i have a port-forwarded server. how can i change the name from numbers to my server name?
#959 [19:20] <flash1133> i have a port-forwarded server. how can i change the name from numbers to my server name?
#960 [19:21] <flash1133> 我有一个端口转发服务器，我可以有一定的帮助silvercraft这样的东西改变IP
#961 [19:21] <flash1133> 请帮助！
#962 [19:22] <flash1133> ughh
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#965 [19:30] <toasterpastries> can anyone offer me some help with Smart Moving mod?
#966 [19:31] <toasterpastries> I get this: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: The class 'net.minecraft.move.playerapi.SmartMovingPlayerBase' can not be registered with the id 'Smart Moving' because the class 'net.minecraft.move.playerapi.SmartMovingPlayerBase' has allready been registered with the same id
#967 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> ?? mods
#968 [19:36] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#969 [19:36] <toasterpastries> oops my question doesn't belong here
#970 [19:36] <VoxelHead> mods: as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#971 [19:37] <toasterpastries> 'pologies, i just got to there in the rules
#972 [19:38] <toasterpastries> ill head over to the appropriate channel, sorry again
#973 [19:38] <toasterpastries> ill head over to the appropriate channel, sorry again
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#978 [20:04] <XJamesdogX> hello?
#979 [20:04] <XJamesdogX> Hello?
#980 [20:05] <XJamesdogX> Well no one is answering so I'll impose my question
#981 [20:05] <XJamesdogX> I just bought minecraft with a mastercard about an hour ago
#982 [20:06] <XJamesdogX> It said I should recieve a payment email, but i haven't gotten one on my yahoo or the credit card one
#983 [20:06] <XJamesdogX> And before that when I was buying it,
#984 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> If you haven't received a confirmation email, or you've tried logging in and getting a "User not premium" message, go call your credit card's customer service. Make sure the payment went through
#985 [20:07] <XJamesdogX> But this seems to have happened to multiple people
#986 [20:07] <XJamesdogX> I tried to buy it byt it said I can't use the card
#987 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Also, if you've gotten any errors during the payment process, but got a Payment successful on the second page, trust the first page. The second page always gives a successful message
#988 [20:07] <XJamesdogX> Oh
#989 [20:07] <XJamesdogX> Okay
#990 [20:07] <XJamesdogX> Thank-you
#991 [20:07] <XJamesdogX> So what should I do from here?
#992 [20:07] <XJamesdogX> Pay again?
#993 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> First off, call your card's customer service number. Make sure payment wasn't already made. This helps guard against multiple payments
#994 [20:08] <XJamesdogX> Okay then.
#995 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Second, if there's no record of payment, go pay through Paypal instead of Moneybookers. We usually see better reliability from paypal
#996 [20:09] <XJamesdogX> If the first page was shown multiple times, does that mean it was payed for multiple times?
#997 [20:09] <XJamesdogX> Or does it mean the payment wasn't accepted?
#998 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Only way to answer that is to ask your credit card.
#999 [20:09] <XJamesdogX> Okay then.
#1000 [20:09] <XJamesdogX> I guess I have all my questions answered, so thank you.
#1001 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Good luck.
#1002 [20:09] <XJamesdogX> Bye!
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#1005 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> !weather hell
#1006 [20:33] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan (8:30p Feb 06 12) temp(32.8 F / 0.4 C, feels like 33 F / 0 C) cond(Overcast) wind(West at 2.0 mph / 3.2 km/h) hu(84%) dewpnt(28 F / -2 C) bp(30.13 in / 1020.2 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Overcast (OVC) : 1500 ft / 457 m) vis(7.0 miles / 11.3 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#1007 [20:33] <GreyBot> Early This Evening: Sunny. Temperatures falling to around 44. West winds 5 to 15 mph.
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#1014 [21:14] <MK> Question: are biome locations totally random, or do they have regional edges?
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#1016 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> They're random, based on the seed value
#1017 [21:19] <MK> I see, do they have chunk boundaries or random down to the block?
#1018 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I want to say it's discrete with chunk boundaries, but I'm not sure.
#1019 [21:29] <MK> and an area designated as a biome will never change, right? Like if I removed everything from a snow biome, it'll still snow there, and etc? And the grass will always regrow the right color?
#1020 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> Right. Provided the seed value of that world doesn't change or get corrupted
#1021 [21:30] <MK> Alright, thanks.
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#1024 [21:47] <Wug> MK: you can make a backup of it
#1025 [21:48] <Wug> store a copy of level.dat somewhere you can find it
#1026 [21:48] <Wug> call it level.backup or something obvious
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#1038 [23:13] <aniseed> Hi everyone, i installed a minecraft server on FreeBSD. It works fine and I've been using it for a few days with friends.
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#1040 [23:14] <aniseed> I heard that it is possible to send commands to a server, such as 'give', 'list', etc.
#1041 [23:14] <aniseed> How can i do this?
#1042 [23:16] <Wug> prefix them with a forward slash
#1043 [23:16] <Wug> i.e. /list
#1044 [23:16] <Wug> etc
#1045 [23:16] <Wug> you must be an op to use most commands
#1046 [23:17] <Wug> you can op yourself from the server console with "op <username>"
#1047 [23:17] <Wug> commands used from the server console do NOT have a slash
#1048 [23:17] <Wug> ops can op other people with /op <person>
#1049 [23:17] <Wug> so dont share it with people who do not deserve it
#1050 [23:17] <Wug> aniseed: ^
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#1055 [23:39] <aniseed> Thanks Wug