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#2 [00:01] <Carnivoris> ok, thanks
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#23 [02:04] <wippler> Does anyone have any updates on the payment issues everyone has been having?
#24 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> "Use Paypal"
#25 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Generally solves a few payment problems we see
#26 [02:07] <wippler> Doesn't work. Get an error message saying they can't process and to try a different method. I'm worried because I've tried it twice and some people are reporting it has charged them both times. I've also tried various cards and accounts. All error messages.
#27 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> You always hear of problems, but never when people solve them
#28 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> I'd first call your bank, make sure payment hasn't been made. Also, ask them if they do any automatic fraud protection for international payments.
#29 [02:10] <wippler> I"m just really wanting to get my premium account but I can't and I"m screwed if they charge me for every time I tried (I didn't know ab it charging at first) And I did call the bank and got my card cleared for an international transaction, so that's not the issue.
#30 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> Mojang doesn't charge you each time you try, only when the payment successfully makes it through
#31 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> Do you have an account at Paypal that you're using, or are you just sending your credit card info through to paypal?
#32 [02:12] <wippler> The reports were of getting the error messages but still being charged. I still can't get my premium account and it's frustrating. And I have my own PayPal account.
#33 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> I've heard of that, but those cases haven't cropped up here as of late.
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#36 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> There's not much Mojang, nor we can do about it. As Mojang doesn't do payment processing themselves, it's down to the responsibility of the buyer to contact Moneybookers/Paypal or their banking or financial institution to see what the deal is.
#37 [02:17] <wippler> Why hasn't mojang posted a warning at least ab this? They
#38 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> It generally isn't a problem. Over 4 and a half million purchases have been successfully made
#39 [02:17] <wippler> are still getting all this money, but I would'nt have tried at all if I knew there was an issue and I could lose out nearly all my money.
#40 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Because you're using a credit card, there's no risk to you, as you can always file a dispute or a chargeback through your financial institution to get any money back
#41 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> Even Paypal gives its buyers some protection against fraud or unwarranted/unwanted charges.
#42 [02:19] <wippler> It's still a lot of hassle and is very unprofessional of them to not at least post an official message or warning about this.
#43 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Again, It's not their problem. They don't run Moneybookers, nor do they run Paypal. They have no hand in how they process your payment
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#53 [02:53] <magictj> im using webgui and eery time i try to connect it says connection error any help?
#54 [03:08] <rev-lemon> magictj
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#93 [06:21] <Deal_> Hey
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#95 [06:22] <Deal_> Anyone about?
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#97 [06:33] <lemon-rev> Deal_
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#101 [06:42] <Deal_> Yo?
#102 [06:42] <lemon-rev> yea
#103 [06:42] <lemon-rev> whats up
#104 [06:42] <Deal_> Not Much :P
#105 [06:42] <Deal_> Your self?
#106 [06:43] <lemon-rev> abuot to head to bed
#107 [06:43] <lemon-rev> thought you wanted help
#108 [06:43] <Deal_> Yea,
#109 [06:44] <bearbear12345_DS> is it possible to obfuscate yml files?
#110 [06:44] <Deal_> I was kinda interested to find someone with a server based modding skill
#111 [06:44] <lemon-rev> not sure,
#112 [06:44] <Deal_> Just to help with a few things
#113 [06:44] <lemon-rev> hm, maybe not in here deal_ ask in #minecraft
#114 [06:45] <Deal_> Such as casting a lightning bolt down from the sky when a player right clicks
#115 [06:45] <bearbear12345_DS> ..
#116 [06:45] <bearbear12345_DS> y
#117 [06:45] <Deal_> PvP
#118 [06:45] <Deal_> For example
#119 [06:45] <bearbear12345_DS> o
#120 [06:45] <bearbear12345_DS> essentials?
#121 [06:45] <lemon-rev> ??> mods
#122 [06:45] <Deal_> ?
#123 [06:45] <lemon-rev> ?? mods
#124 [06:45] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#125 [06:45] <VoxelHead> mods: as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#126 [06:46] <bearbear12345_DS> mod or plugin
#127 [06:46] <Deal_> "Minecrafthelp" But what ever
#128 [06:46] <lemon-rev> plugin is a mod
#129 [06:46] <lemon-rev> it modifies the game
#130 [06:47] <bearbear12345_DS> in general/.
#131 [06:48] <lemon-rev> bearbear12345_DS dude we only help with vinilla minecraft ie the way the minecraft is as is with no mods / plugins / or pre releases
#132 [06:48] <bearbear12345_DS> kk
#133 [06:48] <bearbear12345_DS> kk
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#135 [06:49] <Deal_> *Yawn* Your job must be pretty boring then Eh?
#136 [06:49] <lemon-rev> deal_ it can get quite annoying but its what we do ,
#137 [06:49] <lemon-rev> and its no job
#138 [06:49] <lemon-rev> we are all comunity not mojang
#139 [06:50] <Deal_> Yea... Okay well i will leave you alone as i am requesting help and this 'Minecrafthelp' channel is unable to help me.. lol
#140 [06:50] <lemon-rev> because its to do with mods and plugins
#141 [06:51] <Deal_> Yes, i understand, i was being a smart ass.. Sorry
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#143 [06:51] <Deal_> So you say head over to the #minecraft chanell?>
#144 [06:52] <lemon-rev> yea
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#164 [10:04] <lalo> hy there i tried mine craft for the first time and i want buy it but i have a problem my macbook works with 100% cpu when i use it and it becomes really hot
#165 [10:04] <lalo> can someone help me
#166 [10:04] <WugBot> lalo: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
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#168 [10:14] <lalo> hello there
#169 [10:15] <lalo> are there any mac users with issue like me with the cpu at 100% when play ??
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#178 [11:14] <andrewxios> whats the mod where the ingame npc is advanced, like is able to plant stuff
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#187 [11:47] <MC> can somebody help me?
#188 [11:47] <WugBot> MC: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#189 [11:47] <MC> when i start Minecraft.exe nothing happents
#190 [11:47] <MC> can somebody help?
#191 [11:49] <Boreeas> MC: Alright
#192 [11:49] <Boreeas> MC: Do you get a black screen, or does simply nothing happen?
#193 [11:49] <MC> what do i have to do?
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#195 [11:49] <MC> no
#196 [11:49] <Boreeas> no what?
#197 [11:49] <MC> i the loggin screen doesn't come up
#198 [11:50] <MC> when i am at a blanc screen (nothing on) and i start minecraft.exe nothing happents its still blanc
#199 [11:50] <Boreeas> :ts/launcher
#200 [11:50] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#201 [11:50] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#202 [11:50] <MC> ok
#203 [11:50] <Chris> I love how that URL has illegal in it
#204 [11:51] <MC> YEEJ
#205 [11:51] <MC> THX allot
#206 [11:51] <MC> but
#207 [11:51] <MC> can i now start Minecraft.exe or the .jar?
#208 [11:52] <Zaak> I don't understand enchanting... is there any way to ensure you get a certain spell or at least increase the odds? I want silk touch so that I can get ice into the nether to make water.
#209 [11:52] <MC> ???
#210 [11:53] <Boreeas> Zaak: Not that I know of
#211 [11:53] <Boreeas> MC: Open your console
#212 [11:53] <MC> yes
#213 [11:53] <Zaak> so you just cross your fingers and hope to get something good?
#214 [11:54] <Boreeas> Zaak: You can edit the texture pack, since the symbols map 1:1 to alphabetical characters, therefore seeing what spell you will get
#215 [11:54] <|Kiichan|> Zaak: you cant silktouch ice anymore unless youre using an old version of the game
#216 [11:54] <Boreeas> MC: Alright, where did you save the jar?
#217 [11:55] <|Kiichan|> Boreeas: . . . the text on the enchanting buttons is random...
#218 [11:55] <Boreeas> |Kiichan|: Ah, then my information is outdated
#219 [11:55] <MC> at downloads
#220 [11:55] <|Kiichan|> Boreeas: your information was never correct <.< its ALWAYS been random
#221 [11:55] <Boreeas> |Kiichan|: The last time I read the wiki, it said that it shows the names in some weird pseudolanguage
#222 [11:55] <|Kiichan|> its SGA, but it randomly selects words from a list.
#223 [11:56] <|Kiichan|> such words have no effect on what enchantment you actually get ^^;
#224 [11:56] <Zaak> yes I have done that
#225 [11:56] <Boreeas> MC: Alright, type "cd C:\Users\<yourcomputername>\Downloads
#226 [11:56] <Boreeas> Without the quotes
#227 [11:56] <Boreeas> Replacing <yourcomputername> with your windows username
#228 [11:56] <Zaak> so is there a way to get water into the nether anymore? (without cheating)
#229 [11:57] <Zaak> or modding
#230 [11:57] <Boreeas> |Kiichan|: Ah well, I guess I read it wrong then
#231 [11:57] <|Kiichan|> Zaak: http://pernsteiner.org/minecraft/enchant/ for enchantment possibilites
#232 [11:57] <|Kiichan|> Zaak: http://pernsteiner.org/minecraft/enchant/ for enchantment possibilites
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#234 [11:57] <Boreeas> Bye MC, it was a pleasure to help you
#235 [11:57] <|Kiichan|> Zaak: nope. water in the nether was a bug anyway
#236 [11:58] <Chris> Boreeas, because I know how much you love MC, I'm trying to get him back in here to finish his treatment :P
#237 [11:58] <Boreeas> Noooooo!
#238 [11:58] <Boreeas> :P
#239 [11:58] <Boreeas> Why did he leave anyways?
#240 [11:59] <Chris> no idea :L
#241 [11:59] <|Kiichan|> Boreeas: http://pernsteiner.org/minecraft/enchant/predict.html
#242 [11:59] <Chris> he first came to #essentials with his question before I refered him here, it was kinda random
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#244 [12:00] <MC> what?
#245 [12:00] <Chris> Boreeas, there you go :P
#246 [12:00] <Boreeas> MC: Was the problem fixed?
#247 [12:00] <MC> yes
#248 [12:01] <MC> i can now start minecraft
#249 [12:01] <Chris> shouldn't you be trying to get the original client working o.o
#250 [12:01] <MC> yes
#251 [12:01] <MC> it could...
#252 [12:01] <Chris> Minecraft.exe works, does it?
#253 [12:01] <MC> no
#254 [12:01] <Chris> Boreeas, enjoy :D
#255 [12:01] <MC> :P
#256 [12:02] <MC> NOT FUNNY >:l
#257 [12:02] <Chris> what's not funny
#258 [12:02] <MC> nothing
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#260 [12:02] <Boreeas> MC: So it's fixed, but not working?
#261 [12:02] <MC> yes
#262 [12:02] <Boreeas> ...
#263 [12:03] <MC> they send me a link with something i had to download and i download it
#264 [12:03] <Boreeas> That doesn't make any sense, but whatever
#265 [12:03] <Boreeas> And that link works?
#266 [12:03] <MC> and i have to start that
#267 [12:03] <nedo> Hi ,need help with purchasing minecraft today
#268 [12:03] <MC> then i wil get minecraft
#269 [12:03] <Boreeas> nedo: What is the problem?
#270 [12:03] <Boreeas> MC: And /that/ works?
#271 [12:03] <MC> but when i start minecraft.exe nothing happents
#272 [12:03] <MC> yes
#273 [12:03] <Boreeas> Ah
#274 [12:03] <MC> that workd
#275 [12:03] <nedo> yes,didnt get any notification by e.mail for buying game
#276 [12:04] <nedo> said wait 1 hour,im waiting 5 hours already
#277 [12:04] <Boreeas> nedo: Actually, it can take up to three days
#278 [12:04] <nedo> wow
#279 [12:05] <nedo> why?
#280 [12:05] <Boreeas> MC: Alright then, have fun
#281 [12:05] <MC> thx
#282 [12:05] <MC> thx
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#284 [12:05] <Boreeas> nedo: Don't ask me, ask Mojang
#285 [12:05] <nedo> ok,How
#286 [12:05] <Zaak> OK, so your XP is listed as a bar and a number... is the number 10x or something?
#287 [12:05] <Boreeas> ...that was a rethorical statement
#288 [12:06] <Boreeas> But if you want to try, try mailing bin@mojang.com
#289 [12:06] <Boreeas> Zaak: I always thought it was your level?
#290 [12:06] <nedo> ok,I thought this is Mojang support...ok thank you
#291 [12:06] <|Kiichan|> ... bin?
#292 [12:07] <|Kiichan|> Zaak: the green number on your exp bar is your level. yo spend levels to enchant items. its generally a good idea to spend ALL your levels.
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#297 [12:42] <magictj> does anyone have a link to the hovercraft plugin?
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#307 [13:23] <hello> hi, i was wondering, how can i get people or certain people in my server to get every item like in creative mode in single player?
#308 [13:29] <Cial> Give them Op I think
#309 [13:30] <hello> is there any way to make all players? not just op
#310 [13:37] <Boreeas> hello: /gamemode <user> 1
#311 [13:39] <hello> do i have to do that for each user?
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#319 [14:03] <Boreeas> hello: Yes
#320 [14:04] <Boreeas> hello: There is also an option in the server.properties, I think
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#326 [14:52] <magictj> Im trying to use the petitions plugin and it keeps saying /pe (use without parmeters for detailed help) thats all it does any help
#327 [15:03] <ChimmyChenka> Just type /pe and it should tell you how to use the plugin
#328 [15:11] <magictj> it doesnt
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#330 [15:14] <esqn> help (team mojang)
#331 [15:21] <Boreeas> wat
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#335 [15:54] <mizuumi> So I'm getting the infamous "hs_err_pid4024" error. Clean Minecraft won't do it, but as soon as I put, say, EE, in as a mod, it black screens. Also, if I do get it to play, I don't have sound.
#336 [16:03] <mizuumi> So I'm getting the infamous "hs_err_pid4024" error. Clean Minecraft won't do it, but as soon as I put, say, EE, in as a mod, it black screens. Also, if I do get it to play, I don't have sound.
#337 [16:03] <lemon-rev> mizuumi stop spamming channel
#338 [16:04] <lemon-rev> mizuumi what exactly is your trouble with minecraft ?
#339 [16:04] <mizuumi> I'm sorry if I feel as though on here and the forums people over look my request.
#340 [16:05] <lemon-rev> mizuumi i still dont know the problem ? i cant help ?
#341 [16:05] <mizuumi> Anyway, minecraft will not go past loading screen, it'll have a black screen, then crash, and generate an error log.
#342 [16:05] <mizuumi> Even when force updating to get a clean jar, it'll do the crash.
#343 [16:05] <lemon-rev> mizuumi can you goto java.com and update please
#344 [16:06] <mizuumi> I've updated, several times.
#345 [16:06] <mizuumi> I've uninstalled and reinstalled Java
#346 [16:06] <clarjon1> What's your java version
#347 [16:07] <mizuumi> Currently 6, I had 7 yesterday (I've been having this problem for a few days now), and it wasn't working either way.
#348 [16:07] <lemon-rev> mizuumi what os windows are you running ?
#349 [16:07] <mizuumi> Windows 7
#350 [16:07] <lemon-rev> ok can you please do this
#351 [16:07] <lemon-rev> ??> mizuumi win/dxdiag
#352 [16:08] <VoxelHead> mizuumi: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#353 [16:08] <mickster04> mizuumi: did you reboot as well? and delete the minecraft app data?
#354 [16:08] <VoxelHead> mizuumi: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#355 [16:09] <mizuumi> Give me a moment.
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#363 [16:11] <mizuumi> http://pastebin.com/yRCNCCxW I've got to go, I'll be back asap. >_< I'm leaving the IRC open
#364 [16:14] <lemon-rev> ty
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#366 [16:17] <lemon-rev> mizuumi http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx < please install and run that, also your running win 7 64bit you might also wish to install java for 64 bit as well as 32 bit
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#370 [16:25] <hello> do you know which option it is in the server properties pleasE? ive tried changing gamemode to 1 and nothing
#371 [16:35] <mickster04> hello: have you tried turning it off and on again
#372 [16:35] <hello> yes
#373 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> hello - What are you trying to do?
#374 [16:36] <hello> trying to make it so all users can get everything in their inventory
#375 [16:36] <hello> like creative mode in single player
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#377 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> Then because you've already generated the world, you'll need to set the gamemode individually for each player by using: gamemode playername 1
#378 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> The gamemode argument in server.properties only takes effect upon a new world generation
#379 [16:38] <hello> so setting the gamemode to 1 and generating a new world will accomplish that?
#380 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#381 [16:38] <hello> sorry to be a trouble,.how can i create a new world?
#382 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Delete the /world/ folder in your server's folder
#383 [16:39] <hello> ok, great, i'll do that, thanks guys for your help!
#384 [16:40] <mickster04> is there a guide anywhere on how to set up a server?
#385 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/serversetup
#386 [16:40] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: Lots of information here:
#387 [16:40] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#388 [16:41] <mickster04> ah ok :) i didn't see that last time i looked :D
#389 [16:41] <mickster04> ah ok :) i didn't see that last time i looked :D
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#393 [17:06] <wayland> are buildcraft and industrial craft compatible? after installing buildcraft and starting a sp game in creative to test im missing some items like the quarry
#394 [17:07] <Boreeas> wayland: We are not giving help with mods here
#395 [17:25] <mizuumi> I am back, I'm installing th Catalyst driver display, and before I had the Minecraft issue, I had both 32 and 64 bit Java. Does it matter if I only have 64? Can't 64 run 32 fine? I know 32 can't run 64.
#396 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is neither 32 nor 64 bit only. If you have 32 bit java, minecraft will run on that. If you have 64 bit java, Minecraft will run on that as well
#397 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> 32 and 64 bit java are mutually exclusive. You have have one, or both installed without problems
#398 [17:29] <mizuumi> Okay. Since the person helping me isn't here... The last couple of days my minecraft won't load. It'll have a black screen and crashes, generating this error report: http://pastebin.com/uPrSr0Gf
#399 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Could you head to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#400 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder, then delete the bin folder inside. Relaunch minecraft and log in to have it redownload fresh files for you
#401 [17:34] <mizuumi> Lol, the sad thing is I've done that about 100 times now. Clean will work sometimes. Let me see... (going to delete the .minecraft)
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#403 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Before you do that, do you have any programs that do sound manipulation?
#404 [17:35] <shaav> hi
#405 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Any programs that hook into OpenAL in any way?
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#407 [17:35] <mizuumi> Sound manipulation? No. I have Chrome open, but that's it.
#408 [17:35] <mizuumi> And Minecraft crashed doing the force update x.x
#409 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any programs that do sound editing?
#410 [17:36] <shaav> I have one question. how much performence do i need to run minecraft with the optifine-mod (far view)?
#411 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> shaav - That all depends on what hardware you have in your machine
#412 [17:36] <Omega_Guardian> it just boosts the render distance by 4x
#413 [17:36] <shaav> i have an 5770hd + 955 + 8gb ram but dont get enough frames :(
#414 [17:36] <mizuumi> No sound editing programs.
#415 [17:36] <mizuumi> It could be your graphics card.
#416 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. intel 955?
#417 [17:37] <shaav> phenom II x4 955
#418 [17:37] <shaav> :P
#419 [17:37] <mizuumi> My graphics card is crap.
#420 [17:37] <mizuumi> xD
#421 [17:37] <shaav> so, the optifine-mod requires a big graphics card?
#422 [17:37] <mizuumi> No, not at all.
#423 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> No, it actually helps for people with crappy video cards to get better performance
#424 [17:37] <mizuumi> It's to increase performance for lower spec computers
#425 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> mizuumi - Could you try updating lwjgl using these instructions. lwjgl should include openAL files as well:
#426 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
#427 [17:39] <shaav> nah, i dont want optifine to increase the FPS. Game runs brilliant with texturepack and details on maximum. Im looking for the far distance option under optifine and the multicore-support
#428 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Vanilla already gives the far distance option
#429 [17:40] <shaav> but when i activate "far view" frames fall to the ground :( from round about 80 to less than 20 ;/
#430 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> That's.. kinda the point. Far taxes the video card significantly more
#431 [17:40] <Omega_Guardian> the mouseover popup should say what the option does
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#433 [17:42] <shaav> ok, thx but what limitates the FPS? when i start the game i have constantly 14-18 fps but the CPu usage is round about 50%, RAM ist used less than 2GB and GPU ist used 30%--Yincreasing to 60-90% i think there is something wrong normally the frames should fall, when there are more and more chunk loaded, dont u think so too?
#434 [17:43] <gPad2002> ...no.
#435 [17:43] <gPad2002> As it loads chunks, it unloads other chunks
#436 [17:43] <shaav> not when i start the game
#437 [17:43] <mizuumi> Try Gamebooster as well. I'm trying Minecraft now with the edited files
#438 [17:44] <Omega_Guardian> if you find the auto-save interval, might want to change it to something higher then the default, if I remember right it auto-saves like every few seconds, which might be what causes the famous lag spikes
#439 [17:44] <gPad2002> It is
#440 [17:44] <gPad2002> But you still get lag spikes regardless :P
#441 [17:44] <gPad2002> Just less often
#442 [17:45] <mizuumi> Okay, so Minecraft loaded, let me try the mods I was running fine before MC hated me. If it runs, I'll love you forever, Grey.
#443 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> I won't be surprised if it works. Minecraft ships with version 2.4.2 of lwjgl. Mojang's been talking of updating to 2.8.3 in 1.2.
#444 [17:48] <mizuumi> Shouldn't they update it with the release of new patches? ._.
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#446 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> minecraft's been using 2.4.2 of lwjgl ever since I started in minecraft, back in alpha.
#447 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> They've 'tried' updating lwjgl, but it kept breaking minecraft.. and with the hectic release schedule they were doing in alpha/beta, it wasn't a good idea
#448 [17:49] <mizuumi> Ah, understandable.
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#450 [17:51] <mizuumi_> I hate when shockwave becomes unresponsive. Crashes entire browser.
#451 [17:53] <mizuumi_> test
#452 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> It works
#453 [17:57] <mizuumi_> Joy, black screen. I'm just waiting for the official crash.
#454 [17:59] <mizuumi_> Well Minecraft isn't crashing. But it's not loading either.
#455 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> Erm, mod problems?
#456 [18:00] <mizuumi_> These mods worked fine for me a few days ago. Then suddenly stopped. And they're all Forge, so I know they aren't incompatible.
#457 [18:02] <mizuumi_> I have Industrial Craft^2, Equivalent Exchange and Buildcraft, and the needed Modloader, Audiomod, and ModloaderMP
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#459 [18:04] <Boreeas> "forge"?
#460 [18:04] <mizuumi_> Oh yeah, and Forge lol.
#461 [18:07] <mizuumi_> So minecraft finally crashed, but didn't generate an error
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#463 [18:13] <hia> Hia
#464 [18:13] <hia> uhaiowd
#465 [18:13] <hia> awd
#466 [18:13] <hia> a
#467 [18:13] <hia> what?
#468 [18:13] <hia> O hia
#469 [18:14] <hia> can someone help me
#470 [18:14] <WugBot> hia: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#471 [18:14] <hia> yes i bought a account and it nerver went premium
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#473 [18:15] <hia> ==mode/#minecrafthelp [-q *!webchat@pool-96-255-139-81.washdc.fios,verzion.net] by VoxelHead
#474 [18:16] <hia> I bought a minecratf account about a week agoj
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#478 [18:30] <mib_biinpd> Hey, I have had minecraft 1.1 for a while now, because no matter what I have tried, it just won't update. I have deleted my old one and re-downloaded it, but nothing happens, and I have even forced updated it , but still nothing. Any help?
#479 [18:31] <xales> 1.1 is the latest version.
#480 [18:31] <mib_biinpd> i thought 1.8 was..
#481 [18:31] <xales> No.
#482 [18:31] <mib_biinpd> oh ok
#483 [18:31] <xales> There was a beta 1.8, which is now quite old.
#484 [18:32] <xales> This is the release series, not beta.
#485 [18:32] <mib_biinpd> oh I thought it was old, because there are so many things i haven't been able to find, like nether and endermen
#486 [18:35] <mib_biinpd> are those only in the release series too?
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#488 [18:36] <mib_biinpd> or the beta or which ever way around it is
#489 [18:36] <xales> The nether has always been in the beta.
#490 [18:37] <mib_biinpd> hmmm.. what about endermen?
#491 [18:37] <xales> They were in later beta releases.
#492 [18:38] <mib_biinpd> but are both of those in 1.1?
#493 [18:38] <xales> Yes. 1.1 is newer than the beta.
#494 [18:39] <mib_biinpd> huh odd.. okay i guess i will just keep searching. thanks
#495 [18:39] <xales> Did you purchase Minecraft?
#496 [18:39] <mib_biinpd> Yeah, i got it when it was on the sale.
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#498 [18:40] <mib_biinpd> for like $10 bucks less or so
#499 [18:40] <Nathan2055> I just got 12w06a.
#500 [18:40] <xales> Err..sale? Around what time was that?
#501 [18:40] <Nathan2055> But the sound is really weird.
#502 [18:40] <Nathan2055> It lags a lot...
#503 [18:40] <xales> Nathan2055: Well, that's what you get for using a pre-release.
#504 [18:41] <xales> Use the supported version if you want...support.
#505 [18:41] <mib_biinpd> hmmm... last year, sometime. I got it off the minecraft for $21 bucks or so
#506 [18:41] <xales> mib_biinpd: Did you buy it on minecraft.net?
#507 [18:41] <mib_biinpd> how do i get it
#508 [18:41] <mib_biinpd> yeah
#509 [18:41] <Nathan2055> Could it have to do with the fact I opened it using Magic Launcher instead of Minecraft.exe?
#510 [18:41] <xales> Does it show the version number when you are in-game?
#511 [18:41] <Nathan2055> xales: Is that to me?
#512 [18:41] <xales> Nope
#513 [18:41] <xales> Nope
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#515 [18:42] <mib_biinpd> yeah when i first open it it says 1.1
#516 [18:42] <xales> Nathan2055: Yes. Using any prerelease or third-party software can have all sorts of side effects.
#517 [18:42] <xales> mib_biinpd: I'm not talking about when you first open it, but when you are actually playing the game.
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#519 [18:42] <mib_biinpd> where would it show that?
#520 [18:42] <xales> I'm asking you *if* it shows it.
#521 [18:43] <Nathan2055> xales: That feature was removed when it left Beta.
#522 [18:43] <mib_biinpd> I have never seen that is it supposed to be like in a corner or something?
#523 [18:43] <xales> Nathan2055: I know, that's why I'm checking.
#524 [18:43] <xales> mib_biinpd: If you don't see it there, then you have the latest release.
#525 [18:44] <mib_biinpd> But is it like a prerelease or something?
#526 [18:45] <Nathan2055> mib_biipd: No, if it says 1.1 it's 1.1.
#527 [18:46] <Nathan2055> Prerelease versions say something like "12w06a".
#528 [18:46] <Nathan2055> And you have to get them yourself.
#529 [18:47] <mib_biinpd> Ok..I hope there isn't anything messed up with mine though. And you guys don't recalled there ever being a sale on minecraft.net?
#530 [18:47] <Nathan2055> Well, I believe there were at some point sales...
#531 [18:48] <Nathan2055> But I got it only last November.
#532 [18:48] <xales> Nathan2055: There was one a long time ago.
#533 [18:48] <xales> But...it was at least a year ago, if not longer.
#534 [18:48] <mib_biinpd> yeah that makes sence, I got mine about a year ago if not more
#535 [18:48] <xales> Well before Minecraft got abhorrently popular.
#536 [18:48] <Nathan2055> Hey, there was 25% off during Beta.
#537 [18:49] <Nathan2055> Maybe that's what your talking about.
#538 [18:49] * Nathan2055 shrugs
#538 [18:49] <mib_biinpd> maybe, but it does say 1.1...
#539 [18:49] <Nathan2055> I know, Beta is any period between...
#540 [18:50] <xales> Late 2010 and now?
#541 [18:50] <xales> >.>
#542 [18:50] <xales> No, beta was...February of 2011...?
#543 [18:50] * xales has bad memory
#543 [18:50] <Nathan2055> Let me check.
#544 [18:51] <Nathan2055> Between December 2010 and Minecon.
#545 [18:51] <mib_biinpd> I dont know for sure, it was like a year ago
#546 [18:51] <mib_biinpd> I am just confused why there are things missing
#547 [18:51] <Nathan2055> Huh? What's missing?
#548 [18:52] <mib_biinpd> things like the nether, endermen, some other things too I'm pretty sure, but i don't remember
#549 [18:52] <Nathan2055> Enderman spawn rarely.
#550 [18:53] <Nathan2055> Let's try something.
#551 [18:53] <mib_biinpd> ok
#552 [18:53] <Nathan2055> Create a new world, but select "Creative mode" instead of "Survival mode".
#553 [18:53] <mib_biinpd> ok
#554 [18:54] <Nathan2055> Done?
#555 [18:54] <mib_biinpd> yeah
#556 [18:54] <Nathan2055> Okay, open your inventory.
#557 [18:54] <mib_biinpd> ok
#558 [18:55] <Nathan2055> It will look very different.
#559 [18:55] <Nathan2055> Scroll to the bottom.
#560 [18:55] <Nathan2055> You should see several different colored eggs.
#561 [18:55] <mib_biinpd> the spwans
#562 [18:55] <mib_biinpd> *spawns
#563 [18:55] <Nathan2055> Yes!
#564 [18:55] <mib_biinpd> huh there is an enderman
#565 [18:56] <Nathan2055> Do you see one that is solid black and says "Spawn Enderman"?
#566 [18:56] <mib_biinpd> yup
#567 [18:56] <Nathan2055> Grab one and put it on your hotbar.
#568 [18:56] <mib_biinpd> ok
#569 [18:56] <Nathan2055> Then select it and right-click any block around you.
#570 [18:57] <mib_biinpd> it makes little pink things fly around
#571 [18:57] <Nathan2055> Do you see an Enderman?
#572 [18:58] <mib_biinpd> no thats all it does
#573 [18:58] <mib_biinpd> brb i have to feed my cat
#574 [18:58] <Nathan2055> When you get back, try spawning a Zombie.
#575 [19:01] <mib_biinpd> ok
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#578 [19:02] <mib_biinpd> It does nothing..
#579 [19:02] <Nathan2055> I can fix that!
#580 [19:03] <Nathan2055> Open Options in the pause menu.
#581 [19:03] <Nathan2055> Set the difficulty to anything other than Peaceful.
#582 [19:03] <xales> ._.
#583 [19:03] <mib_biinpd> yeah its on peaceful from when I was editing earlier
#584 [19:04] <Nathan2055> That was your problem.
#585 [19:04] <Nathan2055> Peaceful stops mobs from spawning.
#586 [19:04] <Nathan2055> xales: Do an egg spawn test with people like this, if it doesn't spawn a hostile mob, they are on peaceful.
#587 [19:05] <xales> Most people...ehh, nevermind.
#588 [19:05] <xales> >.>
#589 [19:05] <Nathan2055> xales: Or just tell them to check their difficulty.
#590 [19:05] <Nathan2055> I run into this a lot.
#591 [19:05] <mib_biinpd> I only had it on peaceful from earlier today though
#592 [19:05] <Nathan2055> You just didn't set it back.
#593 [19:06] <Nathan2055> Now, try crafting an Obsidian Nether portal in that same world.
#594 [19:06] <mib_biinpd> ok
#595 [19:07] <mib_biinpd> what combination?
#596 [19:08] <Nathan2055> Read this: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Nether_Portal
#597 [19:09] <mib_biinpd> k
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#600 [19:14] <mib_biinpd> cool it worked thanks! I feel a lot more reassured :D
#601 [19:14] <Nathan2055> Any time!
#602 [19:14] <mib_biinpd> Ok seeya!
#603 [19:14] <Nathan2055> Bye!
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#605 [19:18] <mib_biinpd> Oh yeah one more question
#606 [19:21] <mib_biinpd> ah its okay
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#608 [19:26] <yeahummineedhelp> how can i fix lag spikes i have a toshiba satelite c650d wich has 3 gigs of ram.
#609 [19:26] <xales> Turn the graphics settings down or play it on a computer with a graphics card.
#610 [19:28] <yeahummineedhelp> my computer does have a graphics card
#611 [19:29] <xales> If by "card" you mean "little integrated circuit," then yes.
#612 [19:31] <mickster04> you could also turn down windows effects
#613 [19:31] <xales> That's not going to make a very big impact
#614 [19:32] <mickster04> depends if it windows 7 with everything turned on, turning all that crap off would make a difference
#615 [19:32] <mickster04> but it would look like 2000
#616 [19:33] <andrewxios> try gamebooster
#617 [19:33] <mickster04> i never understood how that was supposed to work "here is a program that stops your other program from being so slow by running and magic."
#618 [19:33] <mickster04> ?
#619 [19:34] <xales> mickster04: GameBooster is a ripoff piece of junk.
#620 [19:34] <andrewxios> it closes unimportant system tasks
#621 [19:34] <xales> All it does is turn off Windows services that you shouldn't allow to run ever anyway.
#622 [19:34] <xales> Like Windows Image Acquisition.
#623 [19:35] <andrewxios> you can optional close background programs, which will be reenabled when turning gamebooster off
#624 [19:35] <andrewxios> i run it on my nvidia gt 9600 and get 80 fps on all high
#625 [19:36] <andrewxios> settings* xD
#626 [19:36] <xales> Background programs will make very, very little difference.
#627 [19:36] <xales> Minecraft is GPU intensive, it's not all that CPU intensive.
#628 [19:36] <andrewxios> cpu tells when gpu shall work
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#630 [19:37] <xales> Actually, it doesn't.
#631 [19:37] <andrewxios> when you have a gpu processor it wont but the cpu gives the commands, gpu only calculates
#632 [19:38] <xales> The GPU is a processor.
#633 [19:38] <xales> In fact, most GPUs are faster than CPUs at things.
#634 [19:38] <gPad2002> ^
#635 [19:38] <mickster04> calculations
#636 [19:38] <gPad2002> Not only that
#637 [19:38] <gPad2002> It's not an "if"
#638 [19:38] <gPad2002> ALL GPUs are processors
#639 [19:39] <andrewxios> inside a graphics card
#640 [19:39] <xales> Graphical Process{or,ing} Unit.
#641 [19:39] <xales> :\
#642 [19:39] <gPad2002> Derp.
#643 [19:39] <mickster04> but what you are suggesting is we should be using gpus instead of cpus because they're faster, so clearly there are some major differencees
#644 [19:39] <gPad2002> Yeah there are
#645 [19:39] <xales> mickster04: I didn't say that, did I?
#646 [19:39] <xales> GPUs are faster than CPUs for *many* things.
#647 [19:39] <gPad2002> Mm
#648 [19:39] <gPad2002> Not ALL the things
#649 [19:39] <xales> CPUs are, however, more efficient.
#650 [19:40] <andrewxios> i should have said " when you use a gpu as processor" xD but isnt the norm yet
#651 [19:40] <xales> Especially in low-load scenarios, like home computing.
#652 [19:40] <gPad2002> andrewxios: it won't be either
#653 [19:40] <xales> andrewxios: You *always* use the GPU as a processor >.>
#654 [19:40] <mickster04> but you still need a cpu to get the gpu to work effectively... so gpu does require the cpu
#655 [19:40] <xales> For processing things which the GPU can process.
#656 [19:40] <gPad2002> xales: he means
#657 [19:40] <xales> mickster04: No, actually, you don't.
#658 [19:40] <gPad2002> As your primary CPU
#659 [19:40] <gPad2002> But why you'd do that I have no idea
#660 [19:41] <xales> gPad2002: Render clusters have only GPUs, mostly.
#661 [19:41] <mickster04> i do believe if you had a nice graphics card on a crap processor the game would not work very well...
#662 [19:41] <xales> mickster04: Depends on how crappy it is. That is irrelevant to the point we are making.
#663 [19:41] <mickster04> oh
#664 [19:42] <andrewxios> gPad2002 ever heard of ps3 clusters?
#665 [19:42] <gPad2002> Yep
#666 [19:42] <gPad2002> Folding@Home
#667 [19:42] <gPad2002> PS3s still have normal CPUs though
#668 [19:43] * xales folds at work
#668 [19:43] * gPad2002 folds work
#668 [19:43] <gPad2002> Wait what
#669 [19:43] * xales folds gPad2002's iPad
#669 [19:43] <xales> :3
#670 [19:43] <mickster04> folds at home and at work (the latter being barely because i can't use a pc of my own spec)
#671 [19:43] * gPad2002 didn't know iPad could be- HEY WAIT
#671 [19:43] <gPad2002> xD
#672 [19:43] <andrewxios> they need cpus because there would be no way in telling the graphics processor what to do and because of the gpu theyre that fast
#673 [19:44] <gPad2002> andrewxios: I'm gonna put this bluntly
#674 [19:44] <gPad2002> Stop talking out of your ass
#675 [19:44] <gPad2002> And go learn how this stuff works
#676 [19:44] <xales> ^
#677 [19:44] <mickster04> are there any cpu-less pc's?
#678 [19:44] <gPad2002> Yes
#679 [19:45] <xales> gPad2002: No.
#680 [19:45] <gPad2002> Well, that depends
#681 [19:45] <xales> The GPU becomes the CPU, as it is the central processing unit of the system.
#682 [19:45] <xales> \:D/
#683 [19:45] <gPad2002> Ragh
#684 [19:45] <gPad2002> You know what we mean
#685 [19:46] <xales> No, I really don't.
#686 [19:46] <xales> How many times do I have to tell you that I'm just a bunch of heuristic algorithms?
#687 [19:46] <xales> I'm not a person.
#688 [19:46] <xales> :|
#689 [19:46] <gPad2002> Lol
#690 [19:46] <gPad2002> XD
#691 [19:46] <andrewxios> gpad you said i didnt understand how stuff works, go take out your cpu and try to start your computer
#692 [19:46] <xales> VoxelHead: Fuck you.
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#695 [19:46] <gPad2002> andrewxios: You could replace it with a GPU with some hacking around
#696 [19:47] <andrewxios> is "hacking" the norm?
#697 [19:47] <gPad2002> It is in some industries
#698 [19:47] <gPad2002> Mostly clustering
#699 [19:47] <mickster04> why don't we use GPUs instead of CPUs then? seeing as they are so much faster
#700 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> andrewxios - You really don't understand us at all. Go take a class or two in computer architecture before you try to "school" us
#701 [19:47] <gPad2002> They're not as efficient
#702 [19:47] <xales> mickster04: As I've already said, CPUs are *far* more efficient.
#703 [19:47] <xales> And less expensive.
#704 [19:48] <mickster04> on electricity or otherways?
#705 [19:48] <gPad2002> ...
#706 [19:48] <Magiobiwan> CPU's are more efficient at with the sort of things that they do than GPUs are
#707 [19:48] <gPad2002> I'm not even going to respond to that, mickster04
#708 [19:48] <Magiobiwan> GPU's are designed and are most efficient with Graphics work
#709 [19:49] <mickster04> gPad2002: too bad you did then
#710 [19:49] <gPad2002> mickster04: Are you as young as you act?
#711 [19:49] <mickster04> gPad2002: you wouldn't believe
#712 [19:49] * Magiobiwan wants to replace mickster04's brain with an old Pentium Pro Processor
#712 [19:49] <gPad2002> mickster04: I would, actually
#713 [19:49] <gPad2002> Magiobiwan: Probably would work better :P
#714 [19:49] <Magiobiwan> It would be an Improvement over what he has now!
#715 [19:50] <xales> CONSENSUS.
#716 [19:50] * gPad2002 wins
#716 [19:50] <xales> We has it.
#717 [19:50] <mickster04> gPad2002: well seeing as my interests lie more with software than hardware, i don't really mind not knowing everything
#718 [19:50] <Magiobiwan> Anybody HAVE a Pentium Pro?
#719 [19:50] <gPad2002> mickster04: Same
#720 [19:51] <andrewxios> grey i dont try to school anyone, but tell me then how an opengl app communicates with the gpu
#721 [19:51] <mickster04> well then, stop going on about it
#722 [19:52] <gPad2002> mickster04: Kid, you're the one who has no idea what they're talking about
#723 [19:52] <Magiobiwan> Does the Cherbdys IRCd not have Founder, Admin and Half-Op modes for users?
#724 [19:52] <gPad2002> andrewxios: Through the CPU, of course
#725 [19:52] <gPad2002> Magiobiwan: nope
#726 [19:52] <Magiobiwan> Ah. I'm used to IRCd's with them.
#727 [19:53] <Magiobiwan> Like Unreal and Inspire
#728 [19:53] <xales> andrewxios: You obviously don't know what OpenGL is.
#729 [19:53] <andrewxios> i do code in opengl
#730 [19:53] <xales> So I suggest stop trying to prove a point when you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
#731 [19:53] <mickster04> gPad2002: dude, i have only asked questions the majority of the time...
#732 [19:53] * Magiobiwan reccomends a +q for mickster
#732 [19:54] <gPad2002> mickster04: Ah yes, my mistake
#733 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> andrewxios - Explain OpenCL then. Explain CUDA then
#734 [19:54] <mickster04> i didn't intend to make ? sound like an opinion
#735 [19:55] <Magiobiwan> I don't get CUDA and OpenCL
#736 [19:55] <andrewxios> open computing language was made by mapple :S and cuba by nvidia
#737 [19:55] <gPad2002> Jeez, I wish I could swear in here
#738 [19:55] <Magiobiwan> What exactly Do they do!
#739 [19:55] <xales> GreyVulpine: OpenGL runs directly on the graphics hardware, actually.
#740 [19:55] <andrewxios> hasnt much to do with opengl since then
#741 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> ^
#742 [19:56] * GreyVulpine coughs
#742 [19:56] <xales> :\
#743 [19:56] <xales> GreyVulpine: I think you might be catching a cold.
#744 [19:56] <gPad2002> lol
#745 [19:56] <gPad2002> Fuck, I laughed, now I don't want to sw- oh wait
#746 [19:57] <gPad2002> >.>
#747 [19:57] * GreyVulpine kicks xales across #minecrafthelp using jmp
#747 [19:57] <andrewxios> opengl is hardcoded in (almost)any gpu opencl is just another programing language which uses the gpu
#748 [19:57] <gPad2002> Lol.
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#750 [19:57] <xales> Nope.
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#755 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> !weather hell
#756 [20:27] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan (8:25p Feb 09 12) temp(30.2 F / -1.0 C, feels like 30 F / -1 C) cond(Clear) wind(WSW at 3.0 mph / 4.8 km/h) hu(68%) dewpnt(21 F / -6 C) bp(30.16 in / 1021.2 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Clear (CLR)) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#757 [20:27] <GreyBot> Early This Evening: Sunny. Temperatures falling to around 35. Southwest winds 10 to 20 mph.
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#759 [20:29] <xales> !weather mars
#760 [20:29] <GreyBot> xales: From APRSWXNET Cranberry Twp PA US, Mars, Pennsylvania (8:02p Feb 09 12) temp(29 F / -1.7 C, feels like 25 F / -4 C) cond(Partly Cloudy) wind(West at 4 mph / 6.4 km/h) hu(66%) dewpnt(19 F / -7 C) bp(30.15 in / 1020.9 hPa) clouds((FEW) : 5000 ft / 1524 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#761 [20:29] <GreyBot> Tonight: Partly cloudy this evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 20s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.
#762 [20:29] <xales> hehe.
#763 [20:29] * GreyVulpine hehs
#763 [20:29] <xales> I know someone that lives there, too.
#764 [20:29] <xales> :\
#765 [20:30] <MagiC3PO> !weather 97381
#766 [20:30] <GreyBot> MagiC3PO: From MCCULLY MOUNTAIN, LYONS, Oregon (5:30p Feb 09 12) temp(51.3 F / 10.7 C) cond(Partly Cloudy) wind(ENE at 5.4 mph / 8.7 km/h) hu(61%) dewpnt(38 F / 3 C) uv(N/A)
#767 [20:30] <GreyBot> Tonight: Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly cloudy with a 40 percent chance of rain after midnight. Lows 40 to 45. East wind 5 to 15 mph. Rainfall amounts less than a tenth of an inch.
#768 [20:30] <MagiC3PO> Oh
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#770 [20:33] * langkid1 was almost falling asleep in second period
#770 [20:33] <xales> and then you dreamed
#771 [20:33] <xales> of minecraft
#772 [20:33] <xales> 2.2
#773 [20:33] <langkid1> while I was dozing off, between sleep and consciousness, I saw this image, it was of the Minecraft launcher with the title "Minecraft 2.2" on it
#774 [20:33] <xales> VoxelHead: Fuck off.
#775 [20:33] <langkid1> xales, WTF
#776 [20:34] <xales> I'm busy reading minds.
#777 [20:34] <langkid1> lol
#778 [20:34] <xales> langkid1: I can read your mind.
#779 [20:34] <langkid1> no I said that on #lobby
#780 [20:34] <langkid1> :|
#781 [20:34] <xales> clarjon1, I told you so.
#782 [20:34] <xales> langkid1: I'm not in #lobby
#783 [20:34] <mickster04> !weather auckland
#784 [20:34] <GreyBot> mickster04: From Auckland, New Zealand (2:00p Feb 10 12) temp(75 F / 24 C) cond(Scattered Clouds) wind(SW at 10 mph / 17 km/h) hu(65%) dewpnt(63 F / 17 C) bp(29.86 in / 1011 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 3000 ft / 914 m) vis(6.2 miles / 10.0 kilometers) uv(9 out of 16)
#785 [20:34] <GreyBot> Thursday: Clear. High: 75 F.
#786 [20:34] <mickster04> sweet
#787 [20:35] <Magiobiwan> !urban Sweet
#788 [20:35] <Magiobiwan> aww... No Urban Dictionary Script?
#789 [20:35] <langkid1> lol
#790 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Too spammy.
#791 [20:35] <langkid1> .u
#792 [20:35] <langkid1> TIP, don't set +g
#793 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Greybot has one, I just have to enable it
#794 [20:35] <langkid1> unwanted bots might come
#795 [20:36] <Magiobiwan> What's +g do?
#796 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> +g - Free invite. Everyone may invite users.
#797 [20:38] <xales> Free software.
#798 [20:38] <xales> Free lunch.
#799 [20:38] <xales> Free beer.
#800 [20:38] <xales> Free invites.
#801 [20:38] <xales> What next?
#802 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Free xales?
#803 [20:38] <xales> \:O/
#804 [20:38] <xales> I know.
#805 [20:38] <xales> Free kicks for stupid bots.
#806 [20:38] * ChanServ kicked VoxelHead from #minecrafthelp (Reason: oxelHead :(xales) cranberry)
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#808 [20:39] <xales> Did it just PM me as I closed the window.
#809 [20:39] <xales> I think it did.
#810 [20:39] <xales> I don't feel like looking in my log.
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#813 [21:03] <Predictability> Is there any way to find servers I've been on?
#814 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> Not really, no
#815 [21:04] <Predictability> ok then
#816 [21:04] <Predictability> ok then
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#818 [21:05] * GreyVulpine pokes xales
#818 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Adbot's allowed in #smp
#819 [21:06] <xales> Is it?
#820 [21:06] <xales> :<
#821 [21:06] * GreyVulpine nods
#821 [21:06] <xales> I wanted to get away with feigned ignorance. Again.
#822 [21:06] <xales> ._.
#823 [21:13] <langkid1> Just published my script on the MCforums
#824 [21:13] <langkid1> you know, the one that lists snapshots?
#825 [21:13] <langkid1> http://langkid1.me/pre
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#827 [21:14] <Aces> Is anyone there
#828 [21:14] <Aces> ;O
#829 [21:14] <Aces> I have a question
#830 [21:14] <Aces> :P
#831 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> We have answers
#832 [21:15] <Aces> cool
#833 [21:15] <Aces> okay
#834 [21:15] <Aces> Is there a way I can contact the owner of an account name?
#835 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> No.
#836 [21:15] <Aces> :/
#837 [21:16] * langkid1 hands Aces some botox to turn his frown into a smile
#837 [21:16] <xales> Mmm, botox.
#838 [21:16] <Aces> :/
#839 [21:16] <xales> Tasty.
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#841 [21:39] <JoshhT> Hey guys what's up?
#842 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> The Moon and the Stars of yesteryear.
#843 [21:42] <JoshhT> Well I'm in need of some help. I just downloaded JRE 6.30 and the minecraft client. And when I try to run it I get this message "The registy refers to a nonexistant JRE installation or the runtime is corrupted. The system cannot find the path specified."
#844 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Completely uninstall java from your system and reinstall it
#845 [21:43] <JoshhT> Alright I'll give it a shot. Thanks mate.
#846 [21:44] <JoshhT> Does that include my JDK updates and shit?
#847 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> I would recommend completely removing all java, as to ensure a clean install of java next time.
#848 [21:45] <JoshhT> Okay sweet :)
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#851 [21:58] <audiox> can somebody help me with an eclipse problem im having?
#852 [21:59] <zkxs> I tried eclipse for a while, but it crashed when I opened .html files, so I went back to a plain text editor.
#853 [22:00] <audiox> I go to create a new class file for a mod, Source folder: Minecraft, I saw on guides they have theres set to /bin/src or something like that but wont give me the option to change?
#854 [22:02] <zkxs> Are you using modloader, or just decompiled source?
#855 [22:03] <audiox> pretty sure i just decompiled source?
#856 [22:03] <audiox> I have modloader tho
#857 [22:03] <audiox> Oh i moved those files in minecraft.jar
#858 [22:03] <audiox> correct?
#859 [22:03] <zkxs> idk
#860 [22:04] <zkxs> #mcp-modding is where the decompiled source people are at, and #risucraft is for modloader
#861 [22:04] <audiox> When i click on net.minecraft.src - create class
#862 [22:04] <audiox> ok
#863 [22:05] <zkxs> This channel is more for people who can't get the game running
#864 [22:05] <zkxs> I know java, but I have no experience making minecraft mods.
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#867 [22:24] <JoshhT> GreyVulpine, still doing the exact same thing bro. Any other suggestions?
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#869 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#870 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/javara
#871 [22:25] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#872 [22:25] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa's info is at http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software and you can download it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/javara/files/
#873 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Oh hmm, need to update that link
#874 [22:25] <yippy> my redstone torches are not updating, i have no idea whats up
#875 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> ??~ win/javara|JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.;;JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#876 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> yippy - Single or multiplayer?
#877 [22:26] <JoshhT> Awesome I'll give that a shot.
#878 [22:26] <yippy> single
#879 [22:26] <yippy> I'm running better than buildcraft
#880 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, then I don't know. I don't run Buildcraft myself.
#881 [22:28] <yippy> hmm. thanks anyway
#882 [22:30] <JoshhT> Yeah that didn't find anything... Lol
#883 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. did you do the "Remove older versions"?
#884 [22:34] <JoshhT> I sure did.
#885 [22:34] <JoshhT> Came up with zero. Lol
#886 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Let me dig through some bots' entries. Sec..
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#888 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Ah, try: http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall
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#890 [22:39] <JoshhT> Just checked mate, Minecraft runs perfect with the browser. So my Java is fine. It must be my environmental variables.
#891 [22:39] <JoshhT> I'm just not sure which bloody value I'm looking for. Lol
#892 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> Try Path
#893 [22:41] <JoshhT> And just add the address of my mincraft.exe?
#894 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> No, the path to java.
#895 [22:43] <JoshhT> I'm almost certain it's already listed, but I'll have a peek.
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#897 [22:45] <JoshhT> Still fails :/
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#899 [22:47] <Jessstar> Hi, is anyone here that can help me with texturepacks on a mac?
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#901 [22:49] <mathis> is there a download for the "Minequest Quest Helper BETA" or anyway i can use it offline (save webpage with app somehow) its found here http://minequest.cheetahlabs.com/
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#903 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> mathis - Doesn't look like it
#904 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Jessstar - texture packs go in /users/yourname/Library/Application support/minecraft/texturepacks
#905 [22:53] <Jessstar> I have but I can't seem to find the texturepacks folder even when I search for it.
#906 [22:54] <GLDud> Hey, I'm playing MC with a .jar file and the .bat file lowering memory requirements. Does this impede certain game functions?
#907 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Jessstar - Press your command+shift+g keys
#908 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> GLDud - Not really.
#909 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Jessstar - In the Go to folder prompt that pops up, put in: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#910 [22:55] <GLDud> Can I ask something trivial, then?
#911 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#912 [22:55] <Jessstar> One sec.
#913 [22:55] <GLDud> How do I get noteblocks to work? All I get is a thwumping sound when I power them.
#914 [22:55] <Jessstar> Awesome!! thank you! I found it.
#915 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> Jessstar - To note, the library folder is hidden by default on OSX Lion
#916 [22:56] <GLDud> Jessstar: Looking for the texture pack folder?
#917 [22:56] <Jessstar> Oh... I just recently started using a mac so I am quite new to this.
#918 [22:56] <Jessstar> I just found it. :)
#919 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> GLDud - The wiki can provide you with much info.
#920 [22:57] <GLDud> Jessstar: I just main menu on the game, Texture packs, Open texture pack folder.
#921 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> To summarize though, Placing note blocks over certain terrain blocks will generate different notes. Right clicking on a note block will tune it to a pitch
#922 [22:57] <Jessstar> Okie dokie
#923 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> You make the note block work, by either hitting it, or sending redstone power to it
#924 [22:57] <GLDud> Terrain?
#925 [22:58] <GLDud> That's the key?
#926 [22:58] * GreyVulpine nods
#926 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Note_Block
#927 [22:58] <GLDud> Like I said, all I've ever gotten was thumping sounds.
#928 [22:58] <Jessstar> I think I got it from here. If I have anymore questions, I'll be back. Thank you all!
#929 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> Look at block type in the wiki article GLDud.
#930 [22:58] <GLDud> I was even preparing a server to demonstrate what's going on.
#931 [22:59] <GLDud> I guess I don't need to.
#932 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> I've worked pretty extensively with redstone, and dabbled in noteblocks myself.
#933 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Jessstar - We'll be here.
#934 [23:00] <JoshhT> GreyVulpine: My program still won't start, same error. :/
#935 [23:00] * GreyVulpine ponders...
#935 [23:00] <JoshhT> EV settings are correct. I only have the latest JRE on my system. Lol. I don't know what's going on.
#936 [23:00] <GLDud> Like I said, trivial.
#937 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Normally, the person I would hit up is Wug.
#938 [23:00] <GLDud> Thanks for the assistance. ^^
#939 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> He's dealt with this on many occasions.
#940 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing GLDud.
#941 [23:01] <JoshhT> He appears to be afk? Lol.
#942 [23:01] * GreyVulpine pings Wug
#942 [23:02] <GLDud> Actually, I have a friend with an MC question, and he doesn't want to come in here to help solve it.
#943 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Wait around a little bit JoshhT, wug should be able to help
#944 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> GLDud - If it's something simple...
#945 [23:03] <GLDud> He wants to host his own server, but port forwarding is a touchy subject, it seems.
#946 [23:03] <JoshhT> Alright sweet as.
#947 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. port forwarding is not a simple topic.
#948 [23:05] <GLDud> ...
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#951 [23:30] <JoshhT> Brb a bit. Still chilling, waiting for Wug. Lol
#952 [23:32] <GLDud> Well, I have to go now.
#953 [23:33] <GLDud> Goodbye all.
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