#MinecraftHelp > 2012-02-13
#1 [00:00] <|Kiikun|> corinanth: youre already using optifine, right? that opens use for multicore...
#2 [00:00] <|Kiikun|> and software rendering for minecraft.... why does that scare meo.o;
#3 [00:03] <corinanth> i never said all software rendering i meand a hybrid mode where the gpu and cpu share video rendering
#4 [00:04] <|Kiikun|> i dont think such a thing exists.
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#6 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> "According to Oracle, Java SE 6 will no longer be publicly available after this July."
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#8 [00:16] <zkxs> I suppose it would be naughty for us to distribute it. But now that there is no influx of mibbits here, it looks like there won't be anyone to give it to :P
#9 [00:20] <|Kiikun|> so the java 7 issue will be fixed?
#10 [00:20] <|Kiikun|> or was it already fixed?
#11 [00:20] * GreyVulpine shrugs
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#12 [00:22] <Airlea> Hello! I have a question about game permissions
#13 [00:22] <|Kiikun|> 'permissions'?
#14 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> This is from the 2 year roadmap.
#15 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html
#16 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> "Java SE 6 will no longer be publicly available after July 2012. Customers interested in continued access to critical bug fixes and security fixes as well as general maintenance for JDK 6 have the option to purchase Oracle Lifetime Support. "
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#18 [00:24] <Airlea> Well my friend is considering allowing her son to dl the minecraft applet but is concerned that it wants all access to personal information and webcam and microphone. Since I've never played the game I'm just wondering about these specific permissions
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#20 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> What minecraft applet, and from where?
#21 [00:24] <Airlea> Pretty sure it's through itunes applett / apple store
#22 [00:24] <clarjon1> Airlea: what
#23 [00:25] <clarjon1> app store
#24 [00:25] <|Kiikun|> Airlea: minecraft doesnt use nor interacts wil webcames or microphones.... oh.. the minecraft pocket edition
#25 [00:25] <clarjon1> app as in application
#26 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. I don't think minecraft does that. Be careful where you're getting that app from
#27 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> Make sure your friend's getting it from: http://itunes.apple.com/app/id479516143
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#29 [00:26] <Airlea> ok I'll make sure she gets it from there. So minecraft pocket edition is the one that requires webcam?
#30 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft doesn't use the webcam
#31 [00:26] <Airlea> huh... interesting
#32 [00:27] <Airlea> and what kind of personal information does it look for? things like who are your friends and if they're playing it as well?
#33 [00:28] <|Kiikun|> shouldnt look at anything like that.
#34 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> My first guess would be, your friend's looking at a malware or a lookalike minecraft game that isn't from the official publisher.
#35 [00:30] <Airlea> mojang is the official developer?
#36 [00:31] <|Kiikun|> yes.
#37 [00:32] <Airlea> I just looked it up on my android. It doesn't ask for any of the permissions I specified. ok awesome. Thanks guys :) I'll point her in the right direction and get her kid playing!!
#38 [00:32] <Airlea> *waves* night!!
#39 [00:32] * GreyVulpine tips hat
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#42 [00:36] <Stoopid> Saradart has a hyphen in his computer name, and got a workaround from here before the release. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
#43 [00:36] <|Kiikun|> :!
#44 [00:36] <WugBot> !: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#45 [00:36] <WugBot> !: Special Character Workaround: http://wug.me/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work (though it usually does). Must be run as admin on vista/7.
#46 [00:37] <|Kiikun|> that one?
#47 [00:37] <Saradart> I feel like our name should be swapped...
#48 [00:37] <Stoopid> Actually, I think it is.
#49 [00:37] <|Kiikun|> its better to just create a new windows user and migrate your stuff over to it
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#51 [00:37] <Stoopid> How?
#52 [00:38] <Stoopid> Weave your mystical knowledge of the electronic world!
#53 [00:38] <Stoopid> Weave your mystical knowledge of the electronic world!
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#55 [00:38] <Saradart> thx thx wugbot... again
#56 [00:38] <|Kiikun|> the User Accounts control panel. add a new user and just log in as that.
#57 [00:38] <Stoopid> More than that, would it let him keep his achievements from session to session?
#58 [00:39] <|Kiikun|> only thing that would mess with achievements iws swapping between weekly/development versions
#59 [00:40] <Stoopid> Either way, the workaround worked this time also. Thanks again!
#60 [00:41] <Saradart> also thank you kiikun
#61 [00:42] <|Kiikun|> no prob :3
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#64 [00:45] <Wug> Saradart: WugBot loves you
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#66 [00:49] <Drewviser> why would the first #minecraft chat allow me to register last night, then when i sign on today it won't let me chat?
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#68 [00:49] <|Kiikun|> your not identified.
#69 [00:49] <Drewviser> i checked my E-mail and everything it asked
#70 [00:49] <Drewviser> i was identified last night O_O
#71 [00:50] <Drewviser> ahh
#72 [00:50] <Drewviser> nvm i just fixed it XD
#73 [00:50] <Drewviser> thanks
#74 [00:50] <|Kiikun|> Drewviser: type /msg nickserv ehlp identify
#75 [00:50] <|Kiikun|> :P
#76 [00:51] <Drewviser> i just identified myself on the other server
#77 [00:52] <clarjon1> lol
#78 [00:52] * |Kiikun| has filters on.
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#84 [01:08] <Wikyd> Do people connecting to my server use my server's ipv4, or my computer's?
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#88 [01:36] <Skyicewolf> Hello!
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#90 [01:36] <Skyicewolf> When i try to buy Minecraft using paypal, it says 'Return to Merchant'?
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#93 [01:44] <Ryannober> hey I've got a couple questions, can anybody help me out please?
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#95 [01:46] <mnjiman> is there someway to lure animals to a breeding pen(fenced off area)?
#96 [01:46] <Calinou> don't ask to ask Ryannober
#97 [01:46] <mnjiman> besides beating them
#98 [01:46] <Calinou> mnjiman: holding wheat in your hand "lures" animals to you
#99 [01:46] <Calinou> also, you may push them by throwing snowballs, they'll flee though
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#101 [01:46] <mnjiman> eep. good and awesome
#102 [01:47] <mnjiman> time to make wheat
#103 [01:47] <mnjiman> WHEAT AWAY!
#104 [01:47] <viking667> heh. So, who wanted help?
#105 [01:48] <Ryannober> haha sorry, anyway.. i have a mac, and I was having some buggy issues with my minecraft so I just deleted it and deleted everything (like all the folders and such) and now when I redownload the .app it wont open, it just bounces on my desktop and then dissapears. do you know how to fix this? thanks in asvance.
#106 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> ??> Ryannober mac/permissions
#107 [01:48] <VoxelHead> Ryannober: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#108 [01:48] <VoxelHead> Ryannober: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#109 [01:50] <Ryannober> oh it worked! thank you so much
#110 [01:50] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#110 [01:52] <viking667> Ayup. Only just came back, but that's what I thought of.
#111 [01:53] * viking667 sighs. Too late to help.
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#115 [03:38] <Lordtac> I have the answer! *has done alot of testing*
#116 [03:38] <Lordtac> anyone there?
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#119 [03:40] <WeissBlazer_> is the login server down?
#120 [03:40] <Lordtac> for minecraft? I don't think so
#121 [03:40] <WeissBlazer_> 'cause I still can't connect :S
#122 [03:41] <Lordtac> i did some testing concerning the lag spike of death though
#123 [03:41] <Lordtac> and its definently connected to chunk updates
#124 [03:42] <Lordtac> during lag spikes its the only process minecraft runs that is taking "more" ram during the spike
#125 [03:42] <WeissBlazer_> The server's security certificate is not yet valid!
#126 [03:42] <WeissBlazer_> You attempted to reach s3.amazonaws.com, but the server presented a certificate that is not yet valid. No information is available to indicate whether that certificate can be trusted. Google Chrome cannot reliably guarantee that you are communicating with s3.amazonaws.com and not an attacker. You should ensure that your clock and time zone are set correctly on your computer. If they are not, you should correct
#127 [03:42] <WeissBlazer_> wtf. :X
#128 [03:42] <Lordtac> check your computer clock
#129 [03:42] <Lordtac> if your computer clock got set back to say... 2005
#130 [03:42] <Lordtac> it will invalidate all your internet certificates
#131 [03:43] <WeissBlazer_> sonova...
#132 [03:43] <WeissBlazer_> LOL
#133 [03:43] <Lordtac> fixed?
#134 [03:43] <WeissBlazer_> 2009 O_o
#135 [03:43] <Lordtac> trololo
#136 [03:43] <Lordtac> set it to the currant date and try again
#137 [03:43] <WeissBlazer_> lol, cheers
#138 [03:43] <Lordtac> works?
#139 [03:44] <Lordtac> this problem effects general internet browsing as well as any program that needs to connect to the internet
#140 [03:45] <WeissBlazer_> including MC client D:
#141 [03:45] <Lordtac> yeps
#142 [03:45] <WeissBlazer_> weird.
#143 [03:45] <Lordtac> glad it worked for ya
#144 [03:45] <Lordtac> no its perfectly normal
#145 [03:45] <Lordtac> the clock changing is whats weird
#146 [03:45] <Lordtac> :P
#147 [03:45] <WeissBlazer_> Two days ago, my PSU crapped out, so I can't use my HD2900XT ;-;
#148 [03:45] <Lordtac> not familiar with that specific peice of hardware
#149 [03:45] <WeissBlazer_> replaced PSU, but it lacks juice.
#150 [03:46] <Lordtac> is it an external hard drive?
#151 [03:46] <WeissBlazer_> graphics card, AMD
#152 [03:46] <Lordtac> aw ok
#153 [03:46] <Lordtac> no suggestions for that unfortunately
#154 [03:46] <WeissBlazer_> it's kinda dated, I'd say. 512MB Dx 10.1 support. Just sayin'-
#155 [03:46] <Lordtac> I see
#156 [03:47] <Lordtac> I'm running a intel GTX470
#157 [03:47] <Lordtac> it serves its purpose
#158 [03:47] <Lordtac> >.> I like my processors more
#159 [03:47] <Lordtac> *gets out nerd glasses*
#160 [03:48] <WeissBlazer_> alrighty.
#161 [03:48] <Lordtac> what kinda CPU do you run?
#162 [03:48] <WeissBlazer_> Grr, I need to find a job ASAP.
#163 [03:48] <WeissBlazer_> Athlon x64 dual core, lawl
#164 [03:48] <Lordtac> don't we all
#165 [03:48] <Lordtac> aw I got... *puts on nerdy glasses* the intel core 2 quad q6600 and its overclocked to 3.0ghz
#166 [03:49] <WeissBlazer_> I've got trouble staying in one place. Seeing as most jobs I get are temp. D:<
#167 [03:49] <Lordtac> that sucks
#168 [03:49] <WeissBlazer_> and dang, nice hardware :O
#169 [03:49] <Lordtac> yep its actually not that new
#170 [03:49] <Lordtac> its just flexible
#171 [03:49] <Lordtac> having tons of ram helps >.>
#172 [03:50] <Lordtac> and a heat sink bigger then my PSU <.<
#173 [03:50] <WeissBlazer_> I think I'll go for core i7 quad or something. Or whatever it is that will last me years w/o having to upgrade JUST for a handful of new vidya gaems.
#174 [03:50] <Lordtac> that's about as fancy as my rig gets, my screen is tiny and I don't have subwuffers for my speakers T.T
#175 [03:51] <Lordtac> aw, look for something that has ghost stepping
#176 [03:51] <Lordtac> and then read about its over-clockability
#177 [03:51] <WeissBlazer_> ghost-stepping?
#178 [03:51] <Lordtac> some processors come "Pre-Overclocked"
#179 [03:51] <WeissBlazer_> That's one thing I'm not familiar with. :c
#180 [03:52] <WeissBlazer_> or atleast, a term*
#181 [03:52] <WeissBlazer_> something tells me I've gone rusty, should keep up with all that.
#182 [03:53] <Lordtac> ghost stepping while I don't understand its complete worth basically means you can overclock your CPU to a much greater extent with much less heat then normal
#183 [03:53] <WeissBlazer_> like, I should've realized my clock/date had reset back. XD
#184 [03:53] <Lordtac> the Core 2 Quad q6600 has Ghost Stepping (in one of its variations) unfortunately I don't have that variation
#185 [03:54] <WeissBlazer_> :/
#186 [03:54] <Lordtac> its very important to keep ghost stepping in mind
#187 [03:55] <Lordtac> quad cores are being used much more nowadays so its important to focus on them opposed to other processors, try to find something in the 2.5ghz range
#188 [03:55] <Lordtac> make sure its overclockable
#189 [03:55] <Lordtac> and do some searches concerning how far it CAN be overclocked
#190 [03:56] <Lordtac> then for the first couple years you can just use it with automatic settings
#191 [03:56] <Lordtac> then when your comfy, up its front side bus
#192 [03:56] <Lordtac> and decrease the RAM frequency as far as the FSB will allow
#193 [03:56] <Lordtac> so you have a 1 to 1 ratio
#194 [03:57] <Lordtac> this allows the most amount of information to flow between the processors and your ram
#195 [03:57] <WeissBlazer_> interesting.
#196 [03:57] <Lordtac> after that things get complicated and you'll start running ALOT of stability tests
#197 [03:58] <Lordtac> in the bios you will definitely want to set your ram timings to the same that are on the sticks themselves
#198 [03:58] <Lordtac> or if you have different sticks, the slower of the 2
#199 [03:58] <Lordtac> then the stability testing comes when your figuring out how much energy to give the CPU and your ram
#200 [03:59] <Lordtac> high amounts of energy produce more heat and raise stability, low amounts reduce heat, and reduce stability
#201 [03:59] <Lordtac> there is a certain voltage required for each and every change you make while overclocking which will make the system stable without producing excess heat
#202 [04:00] <Lordtac> i've decided not to mess around with this part...
#203 [04:00] <Lordtac> i got my 3.0ghz, that's all I need for now, and I'm well within my temperature limits
#204 [04:00] <Lordtac> brb
#205 [04:01] <WeissBlazer_> oic
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#208 [04:03] <WeissBlazer> random d/c
#209 [04:07] <Lordtac> back
#210 [04:07] <Lordtac> just now?
#211 [04:07] <WeissBlazer> yeah
#212 [04:08] <WeissBlazer> btw, what cooling do you use?
#213 [04:08] <Lordtac> I use air cooling
#214 [04:08] <Lordtac> I have 4 fans in optimal formation
#215 [04:10] <Lordtac> 1 pulls air in through the bottom from of the case, (past both my HDD's) then a fan on top of the case blows the hot air out, while a fan connected to my heat sink (facing the rear of the case) blows air through the heat sink to cool it, which then travels out of the case, through yet another fan
#216 [04:10] <WeissBlazer> neat.
#217 [04:11] <Lordtac> bottom front**
#218 [04:11] <Lordtac> yeah, air cooling is effeciant enough for low OC's
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#220 [04:11] <Lordtac> but as soon as I want to go to 3.5ghz, I'll need more
#221 [04:12] <WeissBlazer> i see.
#222 [04:12] <Lordtac> it is possible to keep the hole system submerged in an anti-electric liquid
#223 [04:12] <Lordtac> unfortunately the liquid will eventually evaporate
#224 [04:12] <Lordtac> I'm not talking about H20
#225 [04:12] <WeissBlazer> I've heard of that-
#226 [04:12] <WeissBlazer> lol, water.
#227 [04:12] <Lordtac> :P
#228 [04:13] <Lordtac> H20 = dead computer
#229 [04:13] <WeissBlazer> It's obvious people write about it as a joke.
#230 [04:13] <Lordtac> yeah hahaha
#231 [04:13] <WeissBlazer> God forbid someone tries it :S
#232 [04:13] <Lordtac> yeah
#233 [04:13] <Lordtac> oh I was looking up how to repair the "Tick Of Death"
#234 [04:14] <Lordtac> which is an HDD issue that rings out its demise as a piece of hardware
#235 [04:14] <Lordtac> Tick of Death = To many bad sectors for the HDD to initialize OR broken hardware
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#237 [04:15] <WeissBlazer> dang.
#238 [04:16] <Lordtac> anyway
#239 [04:16] <Lordtac> it was funny
#240 [04:16] <Lordtac> the instructions were
#241 [04:16] <Lordtac> hmmm?
#242 [04:16] <Lordtac> um... voxel are you on?
#243 [04:16] <Lordtac> *recieving strange messages he can't identify*
#244 [04:17] <Lordtac> OH ok sorry voxel
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#246 [04:18] <WeissBlazer> durr. I think I be needing some shut-eye.
#247 [04:19] <Lordtac> yeah me to, if you can hear me *unsure if he's unmuted or not* ChatZilla is a little hard to figure out, anyways, heading to bed?
#248 [04:19] <WeissBlazer> digging through all the junk I have and all the PSUs and other parts seem archaic
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#250 [04:19] <Lordtac> really?
#251 [04:20] <WeissBlazer> yeah. Well, not really. Just some cases with p4 processors in motherboards.
#252 [04:20] <WeissBlazer> 386 - p2 is what I'd call archaic.
#253 [04:20] <Lordtac> i see
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#255 [04:21] <WeissBlazer> well, I be heading off. Seeya.
#256 [04:21] <Lordtac> I'm not very big on Hardware history, I'm just taking a college course in networking administration and security, so I don't go into the history of computers very much/
#257 [04:21] <WeissBlazer> ah, i see :p
#258 [04:21] <WeissBlazer> laters
#259 [04:22] <Lordtac> alright, Have a good sleep, and don't forgot your torch and sword
#260 [04:22] <Lordtac> oh and don't forget to shut your darn door *laughs*
#261 [04:22] <WeissBlazer> thanks, heh. xD
#262 [04:22] <WeissBlazer> thanks, heh. xD
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#264 [04:23] <Lordtac> *heads off to bed as well
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#275 [05:17] <LinkyCraft123> My server will not start! Any ideas?
#276 [05:17] <Grim_Reaper> Is there an error?
#277 [05:17] <Grim_Reaper> Are you running a modded server? Has it worked before?
#278 [05:18] <LinkyCraft123> Nevermind
#279 [05:18] <LinkyCraft123> BeastNode has messaged me
#280 [05:18] <Grim_Reaper> K
#281 [05:18] <LinkyCraft123> The Dallas station has been DDoS'ed
#282 [05:18] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#283 [05:18] <LinkyCraft123> ikr
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#285 [05:22] <TheNoodle> LinkyCraft123, you may be worth hitting up #bn.support before coming here next time
#286 [05:22] * TheNoodle sighs
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#289 [06:17] <MikeKox> hi how do install ModLoaderMP?
#290 [06:18] <Boreeas> ??> MikeKox mods
#291 [06:18] <VoxelHead> MikeKox: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#292 [06:18] <VoxelHead> MikeKox: (mods) as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#293 [06:19] <MikeKox> Mo creatures
#294 [06:19] <MikeKox> ok sorry
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#309 [09:06] <matt_> heyy
#310 [09:06] <matt_> question
#311 [09:06] <matt_> when i drop a recource block in the water, how long will it stay there before it disappears?
#312 [09:06] <GreyVulpine> 5 minutes
#313 [09:07] <clarjon1> same as on the ground :)
#314 [09:07] <matt_> kay thanks :)
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#323 [09:44] <Pacha> I like that quit message :D
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#337 [10:33] <Morrolan> For once I need help. ;)
#338 [10:33] <Morrolan> Whenever I shut down Minecraft it wipes my monitor's colour calibration, have you got any clue as to why this happens?
#339 [10:34] <Boreeas> Huh
#340 [10:34] <Morrolan> Other games I can exit without getting this annoying behaviour.
#341 [10:35] <Boreeas> Are you using the Advanced-OpenGL option?
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#343 [10:48] <Morrolan> Nope I am not. Even better though, now I can't reproduce it anymore. :S
#344 [10:50] <Morrolan> This is kind of driving me nuts tbh.
#345 [10:52] * GreyVulpine snickers softly.
#345 [10:52] * Morrolan hides
#345 [10:52] <Morrolan> Why is it doing this. :(
#346 [10:53] <Morrolan> I mean it is kind of stupid to complain that an issue is not there, but... :S
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#351 [11:00] <Aikar> related, my mc brightness isi really high at home, i love it, but nowhere else is it lol, i need to tweak other monitors i guess
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#353 [11:00] <Aikar> I can see pretty much anything w/o torches
#354 [11:01] <Aikar> gives me a better idea on visibility of stuff when hiding doors etc (SMP), so if i can barely see it, a darker def cant :P
#355 [11:01] <Pacha1> ;check Pacha1
#356 [11:01] <WugBot> d53-64-113-145.nap.wideopenwest.com:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: A Minecraft Server (0/20)
#357 [11:01] <Aikar> anyone know ETA on 1.2?
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#359 [11:01] <Pacha1> Good, it's working
#360 [11:02] <Aikar> I'm working on setting up a remote outpost, but I don't want to start building a base and then wild get reset
#361 [11:02] <Morrolan> 1.2? Yet another bunch of features and new bugs? :P
#362 [11:02] <Aikar> wild reset is very likely due to jungle biomes
#363 [11:02] <Boreeas> Nope
#364 [11:03] <Pacha1> !check 5.56.191.133
#365 [11:03] <Aikar> jeb said something bout a way to do it forn ew chunks w/o resetting wild, but our server admin is worried it may not be good enough
#366 [11:03] <Boreeas> New biomes don'T reset anything, you just have to venture out a bit to find the new biome
#367 [11:04] <Morrolan> Aikar - Could have sworn some of my playesr said that the new jungle biome won't generate in old worlds.
#368 [11:04] <Morrolan> Also, if the fucking biome algorithm changes again I'll kill someone -.-
#369 [11:04] <Aikar> Morrolan: yeah theres some talk, jeb said you can edit some property in your world file to make it generate in older worlds w/ oreset
#370 [11:05] <Aikar> but our server admin is remaining skeptical till more is known
#371 [11:05] <Morrolan> Well, we will see how it turns out I guess.
#372 [11:05] <Aikar> which is why i was asking, anyone know how close is 1.2 out lol?
#373 [11:05] <Morrolan> I don't really mind not getting new biome. What I am afraid of is that suddendly it'll snow in the desert and similar.
#374 [11:05] <Morrolan> No clue about how close it is, really. :)
#375 [11:05] <Aikar> i think he said that shouldnt be an issue
#376 [11:05] <Pacha1> !check 64.53.145.113
#377 [11:06] <Morrolan> Very well. :)
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#379 [11:06] <Pacha1> Yay! It's working :3
#380 [11:06] <Aikar> i just realized I wasn't actually talking in #minecraft. I was kinda confused as to why people were actually talking about minecraft
#381 [11:07] <Pacha1> Could someone test connection for me, please?
#382 [11:07] <Aikar> at work sorry
#383 [11:07] <Aikar> ;check asgard.tserver.net
#384 [11:07] <WugBot> asgard.tserver.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Asgard Home of the Gods (0/60)
#385 [11:08] <Aikar> I think I crashed his server with TNT (my coworker)
#386 [11:08] <Pacha1> Ha.
#387 [11:08] <Aikar> I can't connect, drops me to main menu (no error message)
#388 [11:08] <Pacha1> Could anyone else quickly check if they can join my server?
#389 [11:10] <Pacha1> Thanks morrolan!
#390 [11:10] <Morrolan> Sure thing.
#391 [11:10] <Morrolan> I've been drowning though ;)
#392 [11:11] <Pacha1> I know, it seems you spawn in a gigantic ocean...
#393 [11:12] <Pacha1> I port forwarded an airport extreme, but I connect through an airport express. Will the port still be forwarded if I am connected to the airport express?
#394 [11:15] <Aikar> your main router connected to modem needs the forward
#395 [11:15] <Pacha1> It is.
#396 [11:15] <Aikar> then every other router should be in bridge mode
#397 [11:15] <Pacha1> Ok,
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#399 [11:15] <Aikar> then it wont matter what device your connected to
#400 [11:16] <Pacha1> Then it should still work.
#401 [11:18] <Aikar> lunchh needs to hurry up and get here
#402 [11:18] <Aikar> i need to work on my tracks
#403 [11:19] <Aikar> so, i road a boat out 10k from all spawns (our server has 5 outposts, Center, north/west/south/east, at like 10k from each other), and built a shaft into the ocean floor and built a stairwell down, breaking into the ocean floor
#404 [11:19] <Aikar> found 3 dungeons really close to each other
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#406 [11:21] <Aikar> then built a nether portal track at like 1.5k long to get there
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#408 [11:21] <|Kiikun|> Aikar: lucky
#409 [11:21] <Aikar> then ima continue out another 10k from there and setup a remote town
#410 [11:21] <foxwarriors> hi guy, i have some problem in minecraft.net....i need help please... :)
#411 [11:22] <|Kiikun|> :vauge
#412 [11:22] * |Kiikun| cant spell!
#412 [11:22] <|Kiikun|> :vague
#413 [11:22] <WugBot> vague: We can't help you if your question is very general, please include as many details as possible. Things to tell us include your account name, your antivirus software, if (when) it crashes, and anything that may have helped to solve problems you have had in the past
#414 [11:22] <foxwarriors> i haven't got account in a minecraft.net! :( shiiit...
#415 [11:23] <|Kiikun|> foxwarriors: please dont swear... and you can click 'register' on the website
#416 [11:23] <foxwarriors> sorry
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#418 [11:23] <foxwarriors> but i was register on minecraft.net
#419 [11:23] <Pacha1> Did you pay for the game?
#420 [11:24] <foxwarriors> someone told me he changed password is changed about :(
#421 [11:25] <foxwarriors> please i need help
#422 [11:25] <|Kiikun|> foxwarriors: cant login? forgot your username? forgot your password? 'i have some problem with website' doesnt say... well.. ANYTHING
#423 [11:25] <|Kiikun|> :passreset
#424 [11:25] <|Kiikun|> :resetpass
#425 [11:25] <WugBot> resetpass: You can reset the password for your minecraft account using the following page: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#426 [11:25] <Aikar> i got some great ideas on how to make an SMP griefer secure "Vault"
#427 [11:25] <|Kiikun|> Aikar: no such thing :P
#428 [11:26] <Aikar> have 1 layers of obsidian, but between every layer, lava
#429 [11:26] <Aikar> 10*
#430 [11:26] <Aikar> so if someone digs and randomly finds it, they die
#431 [11:26] <Aikar> and to get in, you have to jump into a pool of java
#432 [11:26] <Aikar> lava*
#433 [11:26] <Aikar> and fall in a hole
#434 [11:26] <mib_vrnqrs> :s
#435 [11:26] <foxwarriors> but that idiot changed me and email
#436 [11:26] <Aikar> which would then have water underneath it to put you out
#437 [11:27] <Aikar> what random griefer is gonna jump into the middle of a pool of lava? :P
#438 [11:27] <|Kiikun|> Aikar: water bucket. now if the lava pool is NATURAL... camoflage would make it work better
#439 [11:28] <|Kiikun|> but you have to remember you fall SLOW through lava :P
#440 [11:28] <Aikar> was only going to do 1 layer
#441 [11:28] <Aikar> and it would be camoflauged
#442 [11:28] <|Kiikun|> Aikar: 1 layer too easy... plus with fire resistance potions...
#443 [11:29] <Aikar> the point being the entrance is meant to be hidden, youd have to know its there
#444 [11:29] <|Kiikun|> nothing if griefer proof :P just pointing it out
#445 [11:29] <foxwarriors> PLEASE HELP i wasn't login in minecraft that somone idiot changed password and email.....please help :((((
#446 [11:29] <Aikar> I didnt mean 'proof', but would take a seriously determined person
#447 [11:30] <|Kiikun|> foxwarriors: thank you for finally giving a complete description of your problem. if you email was changed then only mojang can help you. http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483
#448 [11:30] <Aikar> if you break stone, and see lava, your gonna fill it back up quick, right :P
#449 [11:30] <Boreeas> Aikar: X-Ray
#450 [11:30] <|Kiikun|> Aikar: not always :D
#451 [11:30] <Aikar> yes Xray will defeat me
#452 [11:31] <Aikar> but im hoping someone with xray wont find their way to where ill be doing this
#453 [11:31] <Aikar> ill be like 25k out from any spawn...
#454 [11:32] <Boreeas> In wich case you probably won't need any protection at all
#455 [11:32] <Aikar> prolly, but doesnt hurt to put the effort in, and it would be fun :P
#456 [11:32] <Aikar> ill prolly die a few times creating it lol
#457 [11:33] <Aikar> ive got hidden piston doors all over the place to "take the path to the base"
#458 [11:33] <Aikar> buttons hidden in holes in dark hallways
#459 [11:34] <|Kiikun|> pbbt... buttons.
#460 [11:34] <Aikar> so someone would have to "find" there way like 3 times venturing out 3k -> 10k out
#461 [11:34] <Aikar> minus xray hax of course
#462 [11:34] <Aikar> but ive also setup distractions so it just looks like im mining out there lol
#463 [11:35] * |Kiikun| sets up a Player Detector and a Hidden Cart Switch.
#463 [11:37] <Aikar> whats that?
#464 [11:38] <|Kiikun|> complex ways to have circuits triggered without use of buttons or visible inputs
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#466 [11:38] <Aikar> O.O
#467 [11:38] <Aikar> please gief links!
#468 [11:39] <Aikar> does it use that "block update detector" thing?
#469 [11:39] <|Kiikun|> neither use BUD switches.
#470 [11:39] <Aikar> how does that work then?
#471 [11:40] <|Kiikun|> the cart thing is just a self-resetting cart hidden in a corner. yoiu walk into corner and bump it (its hidden in the wall) and it triggers a switch
#472 [11:40] <|Kiikun|> actually.. one of my favorites is the hoe-switch :P
#473 [11:40] <Aikar> hmm, how does it get placed back into the wall correctly?
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#475 [11:42] * |Kiikun| looks for the youtube vid
#475 [11:43] <Aikar> http://aikar.co/dropbox/mc/outpost3k.png
#476 [11:43] <Aikar> thats my outpost at 3k
#477 [11:43] <Aikar> its 'compromised' but I dont care
#478 [11:43] <Aikar> but ive got it pretty well developed
#479 [11:43] <Aikar> to most people, itll appear "oh, this is some guys random outpost"
#480 [11:44] <Aikar> but in secret, it really goes even farther :P
#481 [11:44] <|Kiikun|> this has the masic idea.... cant find the one that used powered tail to automaticly reset it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX3FqCKoI5M
#482 [11:44] <Aikar> the cavern where the stone path leads is really "laid" out, ive got stairs everywhere making it smooth
#483 [11:45] <Aikar> and yes, i got random burning netherrack around lol
#484 [11:45] <Aikar> to act as a beacon home
#485 [11:45] <Aikar> that was my first "lets settle here"
#486 [11:45] <Aikar> then someone raided me and made me realize i gotta go farther
#487 [11:45] <Aikar> also the nether tunnel entrance was right at spawn :/ silly me
#488 [11:45] <Aikar> but i hid it
#489 [11:45] <|Kiikun|> the one i remember you woudl bump up onto an angled up powered rail, it woudl hit a detector rail, then reset.
#490 [11:46] <Aikar> yeah my main worry of visible stuff is if 1 person finds it, they will dig out and break the doors down
#491 [11:46] <Aikar> then theyll know my style and look for more
#492 [11:48] <Aikar> but ive setup a double piston door at one spot tho, so if you do find it, you find yet another "developed" cavern
#493 [11:48] <Aikar> so im putting alot of effort into psychcological detours too
#494 [11:48] <Aikar> though xray hacks will just fool all of this ;(
#495 [11:53] <Aikar> |Kiikun|: \P_D_P_/T
#496 [11:53] <Aikar> where P is powered, D is detector, when it goes up the hill, itll hit powered rail, and roll back down, and go back up to top of T?
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#498 [11:54] <|Kiikun|> something alon those lines... no... T is plain rail and sits flat at lowst point. powered rain angles up from it.. was thinking smallest form woudl have the detector angled up past that too.
#499 [11:54] <Aikar> the T i used just as a design for a line up top :P
#500 [11:55] <|Kiikun|> so its accelerated up, hits detector, gravity takes over, accelerates down back against the wall on the flat bottom plain track
#501 [11:55] <Aikar> \D_P/T maybe is sufficient
#502 [11:56] <Aikar> or would the powered rail not transmit power though the detector, maybe just \DP/T ?
#503 [11:56] <|Kiikun|> you have to permapower the powered rail with a switch or torch. then you can draw the detector power off the side of it.
#504 [11:57] <Aikar> yeah i know
#505 [11:57] <|Kiikun|> and detectors dont transmit opower, they create it
#506 [11:57] <Aikar> thanks for this, ill play with this at lunch maybe
#507 [11:57] <Aikar> which is... now!
#508 [11:57] <|Kiikun|> heh
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#510 [12:02] <DaBorsti> hi
#511 [12:06] <clarjon1> ;check 91.182.79.67
#512 [12:06] <WugBot> 91.182.79.67:25565 is accepting connections.
#513 [12:06] <WugBot> 91.182.79.67:25565 is accepting connections.
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#521 [12:50] <Pacha-iPod> Stupid adbot in #smp keeps setting my alerts off...
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#523 [12:52] <Boreeas> Pacha-iPod: You got a problem with AdBot?
#524 [12:53] <Pacha-iPod> He annoys me sometimes. I don't even know why I'm in #smp since I almost never go on multiplayer.
#525 [12:53] <Boreeas> <.<
#526 [12:54] <Boreeas> If you tell me why it is annoying you, I'll see if I can fix it
#527 [12:54] <Pacha-iPod> It's nothing you can do about it. It's just doing what it was made to do.
#528 [12:56] <Aikar> my coworker can say good bye to his server
#529 [12:56] <Aikar> im about to blow a crater in it with TNT lol
#530 [12:56] <Pacha-iPod> Sounds like fun.
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#532 [13:00] <Aikar> "minecraft has run out of memory" lol
#533 [13:01] <Pacha-iPod> In LimeChat, I have a modification that changes the sensitivity of when it highlights you. So whenever adbot said something with pa it would set my alerts off. I forgot about the setting, so i fixed it and everything's fine now :D
#534 [13:04] <Boreeas> <.<
#535 [13:05] <Pacha-iPod> Yes, that first message i sent was indeed pointless.
#536 [13:06] <Aikar> http://aikar.co/dropbox/mc/Screenshot-Minecraft.png
#537 [13:06] <Aikar> thats the after math
#538 [13:06] <Aikar> that hole goes REALLLY far down
#539 [13:06] <Aikar> had to put glowstone down in the water to see
#540 [13:07] <Pacha-iPod> What texture pack is that?
#541 [13:07] <Aikar> Coterie Craft "The new default"
#542 [13:07] <Pacha-iPod> Cool, I'll check it out sometime.
#543 [13:08] <|Kiikun|> . . .
#544 [13:08] <Pacha-iPod> ?
#545 [13:08] <|Kiikun|> is that an overlaped ravine eating into the ocean?
#546 [13:08] <Aikar> no
#547 [13:08] <Aikar> its a hole made from tnt
#548 [13:09] <|Kiikun|> x.x
#549 [13:09] <Pacha-iPod> Your coworker is going to be pissed.
#550 [13:09] <Aikar> lol
#551 [13:09] <|Kiikun|> just wanted to blow shite up?
#552 [13:09] <Aikar> theres even larger tunnels under ground
#553 [13:09] <Aikar> I had tunneled (with giant tnt explosions) under the ocean then blew out
#554 [13:09] <Aikar> now its flooding into there bad
#555 [13:10] <Aikar> yeah, my server lets you only use TNT if you pay 20$/mo, so i go on his to get a fix :P
#556 [13:10] <|Kiikun|> pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt
#557 [13:10] * |Kiikun| smacks VoxelHead
#557 [13:11] <Pacha-iPod> If its your server do you have to pay still?
#558 [13:11] <|Kiikun|> i dislike that people try to make money by disabling parts of the game.
#559 [13:11] <Aikar> i mean "server i play on"
#560 [13:11] <Pacha-iPod> Oh.
#561 [13:11] <Aikar> well, TNT is a respectable thing to disable
#562 [13:11] <Aikar> cause stuff like what i just did
#563 [13:11] <Aikar> wild looks bad enough when 60 people are on a server
#564 [13:11] <Aikar> imagine TNT
#565 [13:12] <clarjon1> hehehee
#566 [13:12] <|Kiikun|> did you craft all that tnt?
#567 [13:12] <Aikar> no im on creative
#568 [13:12] <|Kiikun|> there you go.
#569 [13:12] <Aikar> but you can still do massive damage with just 10 tnt :P
#570 [13:12] <Aikar> and with diamond armor, creepers arnt scary
#571 [13:13] <Pacha-iPod> Especially with enchantments.
#572 [13:13] <|Kiikun|> pbbbbbbbbbbt... diamond armor...
#573 [13:13] * |Kiikun| pets his cat
#573 [13:13] <Aikar> what is pbbbt lol
#574 [13:13] <|Kiikun|> raspberry
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#577 [13:14] <Aikar> http://aikar.co/dropbox/mc/2012-02-13_12.55.59.png
#578 [13:14] <Aikar> "blowing stuff up"
#579 [13:14] <Pacha-iPod> I was on a channel that would ban you if you used the /me command and used the bots name.
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#581 [13:15] <Pacha-iPod> It was stupid IMO :P
#582 [13:15] * |Kiikun| gropes AuBot
#582 [13:15] <|Kiikun|> :P
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#584 [13:15] <|Kiikun|> thats the extent of /me-bot interaction
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#587 [13:16] <Pacha-iPod> I love bots.
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#590 [13:17] <|Kiikun|> blargh!
#591 [13:17] <Pacha-iPod> I saw that happen last night...
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#593 [13:17] <|Kiikun|> its anetsplit
#594 [13:18] <|Kiikun|> not... UNcommon... but not usually this common
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#596 [13:18] <Pacha-iPod> I know.
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#598 [13:19] * |Kiikun| battons down the hatches!
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#599 [13:20] * Pacha-iPod cries in corner.
#599 [13:20] <|Kiikun|> TheNoodle: look what you did!
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#618 [13:26] <|Kiikun|> welcome back split netters! and almostroot!
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#622 [13:27] <|Kiikun|> meh. work. *lethargic poof*
#623 [13:28] <Pacha-iPod> Another?
#624 [13:28] <|Kiikun|> probably a different server dropping
#625 [13:28] <Pacha-iPod> Oh.
#626 [13:29] <|Kiikun|> ... or not..
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#637 [13:29] <|Kiikun|> chaos needs some lovin :P
#638 [13:30] <Pacha-iPod> At least galaxy hasn't dropped. :D
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#641 [13:31] <clarjon1> yet
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#643 [13:33] * |Kiikun| spawns a few dozen minecraft worlds just to drop them into the black hole ant the center of the galaxy
#643 [13:33] <|Kiikun|> there, that shoudl speed things up a bit.
#644 [13:33] <clarjon1> lol
#645 [13:33] * Pacha-iPod is now scared of Kiikun
#645 [13:34] <Pacha-iPod> Not really...
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#647 [13:34] <|Kiikun|> Pacha-iPod: if you wanna be scare of me.. be scared of the stuff i think of for my Origincycle books :P
#648 [13:35] <|Kiikun|> the GOOD END is a Great Crunch.. orwhatever its called.
#649 [13:36] <|Kiikun|> ok work time!!!
#650 [13:36] <Pacha-iPod> If I lock the screen on my iPod I get a ping timeout within 10 mins :(
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#653 [13:39] <xAerux> Hello all. I request assistance.
#654 [13:39] <clarjon1> we cannot assist until you tell us the issue :)
#655 [13:39] <xAerux> That was a test to see if anyone's here.
#656 [13:39] <Pacha-iPod> Lol.
#657 [13:40] <xAerux> HEre, this will make things easyer... Here's my question I posted already, no one helped :(
#658 [13:40] <xAerux> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120213062711AAUEl7F
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#660 [13:42] <Aikar> wow
#661 [13:42] <Aikar> my server just updated so you dont lose exp when you die
#662 [13:42] <Aikar> hell yeah...
#663 [13:42] <xAerux> I went in my registry and deleted java update 30, still nothing.
#664 [13:42] <Aikar> wish that was in place when i died at lv41!
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#667 [13:43] <hello> hi guys
#668 [13:44] <Pacha-iPod> I like the username 'hello'.
#669 [13:45] <xAerux> So, any suggestions yet?
#670 [13:46] <Pacha-iPod> I hate Java and know next to nothing about it. Stick around and I'm sure someone can help you.
#671 [13:46] <xAerux> Clarjon, you looking into it?
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#677 [14:03] <Pacha-iPod> |Kiikun|: can you help xAerux with his java issue? Sorry if I'm bugging you. I'm just trying to help him out here. :3
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#681 [14:09] <Morrolan> Generally speaking none responding means none can or wants to help. :P
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#683 [14:11] <Pacha-iPod> Yeah, I was just hoping someone besides me could help ATM since I'm going through soundsnap and suck at doing anything with java much less help with it.
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#691 [14:47] <mib_9u0so8> !server
#692 [14:48] <mib_9u0so8> Kealper :D
#693 [14:48] <mib_9u0so8> !help
#694 [14:48] <mib_9u0so8> !server
#695 [14:48] <mib_9u0so8> !server
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#697 [14:51] <Pacha-iPod> Ha my laptop connected and got a ping timeout
#698 [14:52] <mib_9u0so8> !kealper
#699 [14:52] <mib_9u0so8> help me
#700 [14:52] <WugBot> mib_9u0so8: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#701 [14:53] <mib_9u0so8> help me bad login
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#708 [15:14] <vith> in server.properties i have difficulty=1, which should be easy right? which should mean "Creepers will cancel their explosions after moving only a short distance away."?
#709 [15:15] <vith> last time i played was maybe 4+ months ago and i used to be able to kill creepers without them exploding. now i have maybe a 15% chance
#710 [15:15] <vith> before i was playing with 100ms+ lag, now i'm playing on a server run on my own computer
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#714 [15:21] <ShiceTea> hello?
#715 [15:21] <ShiceTea> hello?
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#717 [15:23] <pico> im just a but brainfucked atm and i cant figure out a normally simple redstone thing: i got one lever, two pistons at the end, when i switch lever to on, first piston should react fast and second a bit slower, when i switch the lever of, the first piston should react slow and the second fast, how to solve that?
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#721 [15:26] <Kealper> wat
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#723 [15:28] <Pacha-iPod> That, was a bit weird.
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#736 [16:02] <LordOfCraft> .
#737 [16:02] <Kealper> ..
#738 [16:02] <LordOfCraft> ....
#739 [16:02] <LordOfCraft> Hi
#740 [16:02] <Kealper> ........
#741 [16:02] <Kealper> hi
#742 [16:02] <LordOfCraft> Help.
#743 [16:02] <Kealper> what sort of help?
#744 [16:02] <LordOfCraft> Problems the buy
#745 [16:02] <Kealper> hmm.. what payment method are you trying?
#746 [16:03] <LordOfCraft> Sou BrI am Brazilian I'm in trouble I will use google translatorI am Brazilian I'm in trouble I will use google translator
#747 [16:03] <LordOfCraft> Sorry Douple
#748 [16:03] <Kealper> ok, i will speak simple :)
#749 [16:04] <LordOfCraft> When buying it asks for credit card I've got no ta credited to my paypal account the money
#750 [16:04] <LordOfCraft> ?
#751 [16:05] <LordOfCraft> Using google I can be problems in sentences
#752 [16:05] <Kealper> there is no other payment methods that you can see?
#753 [16:06] <DiamondLemon> Interesting, I'm having PayPal problems too D:
#754 [16:06] <LordOfCraft> Nop
#755 [16:06] <Kealper> hmm.. DiamondLemon what is it telling you?
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#757 [16:06] <LordOfCraft> Kealper Nop
#758 [16:07] <LordOfCraft> so the same paypal
#759 [16:07] <Kealper> LordOfCraft: i am not sure i can help you then :(
#760 [16:07] <jasper> anyone german ?
#761 [16:07] <LordOfCraft> ..
#762 [16:07] <LordOfCraft> Okay :(
#763 [16:07] <Kealper> LordOfCraft: sorry :/
#764 [16:07] <DiamondLemon> Kealper: What about if PayPal gives me cannot process, choose another payment method(don't say choose another payment method, because I can't)
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#766 [16:08] <DiamondLemon> Or rather, won't
#767 [16:08] <LordOfCraft> More like time to buy it asks for my credit card since I do not want want the card to my paypal account paypal already credited ta
#768 [16:08] <Kealper> DiamondLemon: only thing i can say is try again later then, it seems as if Paypal might be having an issue
#769 [16:09] <DiamondLemon> I'll give it another go today, but for last two days, hasn't worked
#770 [16:09] <clarjon1> hmm.
#771 [16:09] <clarjon1> DiamondLemon: try calling your bank or credit card company -- they may have put a block on online purchases.
#772 [16:09] <jasper> i want build a portal but i dont want in to the nether i will come out there where i want can anyone tell me how ???(Mp)
#773 [16:10] <DiamondLemon> I don't think it's that, we've used it for other online purchases before, plus it's not my PayPal
#774 [16:11] <jasper> nobody can help me ?
#775 [16:11] <DiamondLemon> (I do have permission to use it though :P)
#776 [16:11] <Kealper> jasper: could you explain your question a bit better? i did not understand :(
#777 [16:11] <Kealper> DiamondLemon: but were those purchases for things that were based out of Sweden? :P
#778 [16:11] <jasper> ^^ fucking english xD
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#781 [16:12] <Kealper> jasper: lol
#782 [16:12] <jasper> ?? :D:P
#783 [16:12] <DiamondLemon> Kealper: No ... I don't believe so D:
#784 [16:12] <jasper> i build 2 portals
#785 [16:12] <Kealper> DiamondLemon: some times banks will block international transactions like that, as a safty precaution, generally contacting the bank will get that restriction removed
#786 [16:13] <jasper> but when i go into it then i come in the nether
#787 [16:13] <DiamondLemon> Ugh. D:<
#788 [16:13] <jasper> but i want come out in my second portal
#789 [16:13] <DiamondLemon> That sounds likely actually
#790 [16:13] <jasper> is taht possibil?
#791 [16:14] <Kealper> jasper: yes, but it is annoying to set up, and you need to do some math to see where you should build your second pair of portals
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#793 [16:15] <jasper> i build one in my house and the other one is outside my house a feww blocks away
#794 [16:16] <Kealper> jasper: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Nether_Portal#Linkage_between_Overworld_and_Nether this tells about the "theory" of nether portals, it should explain it better than i can
#795 [16:18] <jasper> come one thts ... when i set it in my language then the site is small
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#797 [16:19] <Kealper> http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=en&tl=de&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.minecraftwiki.net%2Fwiki%2FNether_Portal%23Linkage_between_Overworld_and_Nether&act=url does this help? lol
#798 [16:19] <Kealper> http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=en&tl=de&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.minecraftwiki.net%2Fwiki%2FNether_Portal%23Linkage_between_Overworld_and_Nether&act=url does this help? lol
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#801 [16:21] <LordOfCraft_> Hi
#802 [16:21] <LordOfCraft_> Adm on?
#803 [16:21] <LordOfCraft> ??
#804 [16:21] <jasper> lol n1 thx
#805 [16:22] <LordOfCraft> Already bought only lack the mail to arrive and already spent the day ..
#806 [16:22] <LordOfCraft> Kelper?
#807 [16:22] <Kealper> LordOfCraft: have you tried logging in? some times email can be slow
#808 [16:23] <Kealper> LordOfCraft: what is your Minecraft username? i can check
#809 [16:23] <Aikar> i have designed my vault!
#810 [16:23] <Aikar> http://aikar.co/dropbox/mc/vaultdesign.png
#811 [16:23] <LordOfCraft> I bought such and such is now so lacking vim email
#812 [16:23] <Kealper> Aikar: :o
#813 [16:23] <Aikar> so, you will have to uncover 2 hidden switches on the wall, flip them on, itll open the 2 pistons in the shaft going down
#814 [16:24] <Aikar> you then jump into the lava marked by the diamond, fall in hole, which if you dont open piston door, youll then burn
#815 [16:24] <Aikar> if doors open, you then fall into the water to be "put out"
#816 [16:24] <LordOfCraft> cancerlar need an account I bought 2 times unintentionally
#817 [16:24] <LordOfCraft> Kelper
#818 [16:24] <LordOfCraft> help help
#819 [16:24] <LordOfCraft> cancerlar need an account I bought 2 times unintentionally
#820 [16:24] <LordOfCraft> D=
#821 [16:24] <Aikar> then youll fall into the room and can deposit stuff
#822 [16:25] <Aikar> then fall into the exit hole, same lava->water idea (iron bars will be under each of these to keep it from falling down, with the hole in middle)
#823 [16:25] <Kealper> LordOfCraft: if you accidentally paid two times, send an email to help@mojang.com and say that in there
#824 [16:25] <Aikar> then jump in the nether portal to take it 1 way to then get back up top
#825 [16:26] <Aikar> the exit portal is designed so you have to "jump into it" so if someone did break the top portal then port in, theyd immed fall into the lava, and if they survived that, they still wouldnt be able to get up the exit shaft w/o burning
#826 [16:26] <Kealper> Aikar: fancy :o
#827 [16:26] <Aikar> i dunno how ima build it lol, prolly gonna have to use fire res potions, or build it in non lava, then fill in lava everywhere
#828 [16:27] <Aikar> the goal is: the only way griefers should be able to figure out how to get in is if they know all the details about it :P
#829 [16:27] <Aikar> (please dont be on my server if any griefers in here :P)
#830 [16:28] <Aikar> even an xray hack would prolly require them studying what they see for a while to figure it out
#831 [16:28] <Kealper> lol
#832 [16:28] <Aikar> so hopefully kids, who are more likely to be the griefers , wont be able to figure it out
#833 [16:28] <Kealper> hopefully lol
#834 [16:29] <Aikar> combined with the fact this base will be 20+k away from spawn
#835 [16:29] <Aikar> im gonna hope this keeps my goods secure ;)
#836 [16:29] <Aikar> ill then lock the chest that i keep diamonds in
#837 [16:30] <LordOfCraft_> kelper
#838 [16:30] <LordOfCraft_> kelper
#839 [16:30] <LordOfCraft_> kelper
#840 [16:30] <LordOfCraft_> friend
#841 [16:30] <Kealper> LordOfCraft: ?
#842 [16:30] <LordOfCraft_> kelper
#843 [16:30] <LordOfCraft_> Please remove the payment: 1296075432
#844 [16:30] <Aikar> (our server has a chest locking system, but i dont wanna blow all my money locking every chest)
#845 [16:30] <LordOfCraft_> please
#846 [16:30] <Kealper> LordOfCraft: i can't help with accounts, you need to give that number in an email to help@mojang.com :/
#847 [16:31] <Kealper> i can only help with techinical support :(
#848 [16:35] <LordOfCraft_> Please remove the payment: 1296075432, and check payment: 4488034951
#849 [16:35] <Kealper> ?? accounts
#850 [16:35] <VoxelHead> accounts: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#851 [16:35] <LordOfCraft_> Kelper
#852 [16:35] <LordOfCraft_> Please remove the payment: 1296075432, and check payment: 4488034951
#853 [16:35] <Kealper> LordOfCraft_: read what VoxelHead said
#854 [16:35] <Aikar> Kealper: also, even if they find the piston wiring, the tunnel will only be 1 high, so cant walk in it
#855 [16:35] <Kealper> Aikar: nice, so even if they see it, they can't actually examine it in any detail to see how it works :P
#856 [16:36] <Aikar> and trying to remove any of the obsidian, lava will fill the room lol
#857 [16:36] <Aikar> making it extremely dangerous to "investigate"
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#859 [16:36] <Kealper> lol
#860 [16:36] <Aikar> xray hacks or knowing exactly how to enter will be about the only way to get in
#861 [16:36] <LordOfCraft_> Affsz
#862 [16:36] <LordOfCraft_> Mojang?
#863 [16:36] <LordOfCraft_> VISHI
#864 [16:36] <Aikar> then combine the psychlogical "hiding" i will do to that room, and the fact itll be 25k out
#865 [16:37] <Aikar> = safe room on SMP!
#866 [16:37] <Kealper> LordOfCraft_: Mojang is the company that makes Minecraft
#867 [16:37] <LordOfCraft_> KKKKK' Server Suport?
#868 [16:38] <LordOfCraft_> ?
#869 [16:38] <Kealper> hmm?
#870 [16:39] * TheNoodle is confsued as fuck
#870 [16:39] <TheNoodle> [05:31] Guirigottti : Please remove the payment: 1296075432, and check payment: 4488034951
#871 [16:40] <Kealper> Guirigottti? wat?
#872 [16:40] <TheNoodle> both are br's, that was in another channel.
#873 [16:40] <Aikar> prolly same person
#874 [16:40] <Kealper> :o
#875 [16:40] <Aikar> yeah same #'s
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#879 [16:45] <TheCurious> hi, i have a question. Can you play on the same world after an update? Does the world get updated as well with the new features?
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#881 [16:47] <Kealper> TheCurious: almost all of the time, yes
#882 [16:47] <TheCurious> alright ty!
#883 [16:48] <Kealper> TheCurious: some times you'll need to explore new areas to get new features, but usually the game will automatically be able to use old worlds
#884 [16:48] <TheCurious> ah well, that wouldn't be a problem then, as long as i can keep playing the same world with the updates
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#890 [16:59] <DDRKhat> Any redstone inclined peoples around ?
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#892 [16:59] <KleptoKat> Yeah, totally DDR.
#893 [16:59] <KleptoKat> What is your problemo?
#894 [17:00] <DDRKhat> im wondering if it's possible to fit a XNOR into a space of 2x?x3
#895 [17:00] <DDRKhat> so 2 wide, 3 long, ? tall
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#897 [17:00] <Sonic> Hello
#898 [17:00] <Pacha> Hi
#899 [17:01] <Pacha> Sonic: Do you need help with something?
#900 [17:01] <Sonic> I have a question.
#901 [17:01] <Pacha> Yes?
#902 [17:01] <Sonic> How Do You Set Up A Sever?
#903 [17:02] <Pacha> Well, you will need to port forward.
#904 [17:02] <Pacha> Let's start there.
#905 [17:02] <Pacha> Do you know how to do this?
#906 [17:02] <Sonic> Nope (Sorry, Im New At This)
#907 [17:03] <Pacha> Oh, it's alright ;)
#908 [17:03] <Pacha> Are you running a mac or windows 7 (vista or XP)
#909 [17:03] <KleptoKat> Oh, sorry about that
#910 [17:03] <Sonic> Windows 7
#911 [17:03] <KleptoKat> You still here, DDR?
#912 [17:03] <DDRKhat> Yeah.
#913 [17:03] <Pacha> Ok
#914 [17:04] <KleptoKat> Well, yeah, it's possible.
#915 [17:04] <Pacha> Open the start menu and type CMD into the search area and hit enter
#916 [17:04] <Sonic> Ok.
#917 [17:04] <DDRKhat> I can't figure it. Could you help me out ?
#918 [17:04] <KleptoKat> Sure
#919 [17:04] <KleptoKat> I'll try and make it quickly
#920 [17:04] <DDRKhat> cool
#921 [17:04] <KleptoKat> And then give you the layout
#922 [17:05] <DDRKhat> well
#923 [17:05] <DDRKhat> if it helps
#924 [17:05] <DDRKhat> i could give you the ip to a server
#925 [17:05] <DDRKhat> i could see it physically then
#926 [17:05] <Sonic> Command Prompt? Never Used It....
#927 [17:05] <Pacha> type ipconfig/all and hit enter
#928 [17:06] <Sonic> Then....
#929 [17:06] <Pacha> Scroll down until you see something along the lines of "wireless network adapter 2" it should be near the top
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#931 [17:08] <Sonic> I can't see it.
#932 [17:08] <mib_pwpauy> hello
#933 [17:08] <Pacha> try exiting the command prompt, do what i said to open it, and then just type into the command prompt ipconfig
#934 [17:09] <Pacha> without the /all
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#936 [17:10] <Sonic> Yeah. would it say "Wirless Network "
#937 [17:10] <Pacha> yes
#938 [17:10] <TheNexusElement> 184.146.82.101:25565 - port is set to open in router. canyouseeme.org says ports are closed... Any help?
#939 [17:11] <KleptoKat> Not sure if possible, DDR.
#940 [17:11] <KleptoKat> Well,
#941 [17:11] <Pacha> below it, it should say something like default gateway, do you see that?
#942 [17:11] <KleptoKat> at least to my comprehension.
#943 [17:11] <Sonic> Now what?
#944 [17:11] <Pacha> tell me what the default gateway is
#945 [17:11] <DDRKhat> darn, thought it might be impossible, Klepto
#946 [17:12] <DDRKhat> is a 3x?x3 possible?
#947 [17:12] <Sonic> 192.168.1.1
#948 [17:13] <Pacha> enter that into your web browser
#949 [17:13] <Pacha> no .com or anything
#950 [17:13] <mib_pwpauy> my minecraft closes after it finishes loading. any ideas on what to do besides give up on minecraft, it worked just this morning. all i did was reset my computer.
#951 [17:13] <Sonic> (Nods)
#952 [17:14] <DDRKhat> mib> What did you do your minecraft recently ?
#953 [17:14] <Sonic> It Asking For A Password?
#954 [17:14] <TheNexusElement> can someone check 184.146.82.101 for server activity?
#955 [17:14] <TheNexusElement> my ports are open, but no one can connect
#956 [17:14] <mib_pwpauy> played it for 5 or so hours then took a nap turning off my computer.
#957 [17:14] <Pacha> try admin for the password, if that doesn't work try password or 12345
#958 [17:14] <DDRKhat> Nexus> Are you sure the servers on the port that you have opened? And did you open BOTH TCP & UDP ?
#959 [17:15] <Sonic> Got It.
#960 [17:15] <Pacha> ok
#961 [17:15] <TheNexusElement> Yes, and both TCP and UDP are opened (in the router)
#962 [17:15] <Pacha> What company manufactured your router? I need to know so I can visualize the layout of your screen.
#963 [17:15] <TheNexusElement> Netgear
#964 [17:15] <Sonic> NETGEAR.
#965 [17:15] <DDRKhat> KelptoKat: Would a 3x?x3 be possible?
#966 [17:16] <Pacha> ok
#967 [17:16] <TheNexusElement> WNDR4000 N700
#968 [17:16] <Pacha> Sonic: one moment, i'm looking up something...
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#970 [17:17] <Pacha> Hit the button to your left that says services
#971 [17:18] <Sonic> Can't log in. What would the user name be?
#972 [17:18] <Pacha> admin
#973 [17:20] <Pacha> and if my memory is correct, netgear default passwords are password
#974 [17:20] <TheNexusElement> I have access to my router...
#975 [17:20] <Sonic> It's Not Working....
#976 [17:21] <Pacha> TheNexusElement: I'm helping someone else ATM
#977 [17:21] <TheNexusElement> oh, sorry
#978 [17:21] <Pacha> It's alright
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#980 [17:22] <Pacha> Sonic: trying to type out how to put up a server is going to kill my fingers and i'll be on here for the rest of the night trying to type everything out to you, you'd best be off looking for a tutorial
#981 [17:22] <mib_pwpauy> minecraft closes after it done load but before it shows the mojang logo. ive done all the "fixs" that is on youtube and other forums. what do i do now just give up, this worked just a few hours ago.
#982 [17:22] <Pacha> there are plenty on the minecraft forums and youtube
#983 [17:23] <Pacha> mib_pwpauy: Do you have any mods?
#984 [17:23] <mib_pwpauy> none
#985 [17:23] <mib_pwpauy> i like the game the way it is.
#986 [17:23] <Pacha> when your at the minecraft client screen, hit the options button and choose force update, then login
#987 [17:23] <Sonic> Alright, Thanks! Bye
#988 [17:24] <mib_pwpauy> ive done that still the same issue.
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#990 [17:27] <Becker> Ok hi
#991 [17:27] <Becker> I need help with something
#992 [17:27] <Becker> So, I'm no technical dummy
#993 [17:27] <Becker> I have tracked the issue
#994 [17:28] <Becker> To a Exception
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#996 [17:28] <Becker> in java.lang
#997 [17:28] <Sonic> Hello
#998 [17:28] <Becker> this exception has to do with native library loading for the LWJGL
#999 [17:28] <mib_pwpauy> yup i just closes right out. i get the evil error report in .txt and grr, im sad. i played this all last night and this morning now it dosent want to work im sad.
#1000 [17:28] <Becker> Ya
#1001 [17:28] <Becker> So
#1002 [17:28] <Becker> It just goes to a blackscreen
#1003 [17:28] <Becker> doesn't load
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#1005 [17:29] <Becker> Help?
#1006 [17:29] <mickster04> Becker: fewer enter presses pls
#1007 [17:29] <Becker> srry
#1008 [17:29] <Becker> Can anyone help though?
#1009 [17:29] <Sonic> I can!
#1010 [17:29] <mickster04> Becker: OS? java version, when did you last update your pc?
#1011 [17:29] <mickster04> Becker: OS? java version, when did you last update your pc?
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#1013 [17:30] <danxtag> help http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1024284-somethingsomethingthatscrewsme/
#1014 [17:30] <Sonic> First,Becker ,did you try forcing an update?
#1015 [17:30] <danxtag> yes
#1016 [17:30] <danxtag> minecraft alos closes
#1017 [17:31] <danxtag> wronpaste -faceplam
#1018 [17:33] <Sonic> Closes? That is weird...
#1019 [17:34] <Sonic> Ok. At this point, you should uninstall Minecraft, then reinstall it.
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#1021 [17:36] <danxtag> how do u uninstall minecraft
#1022 [17:38] <TheNexusElement> danxtag: start the launcher, click options > force update. or goto %appdata% and delete .minecraft
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#1024 [17:40] <danxtag> ok did that
#1025 [17:40] <danxtag> wat now
#1026 [17:41] <mickster04> run minecraft
#1027 [17:41] <mickster04> it will update everything
#1028 [17:41] <mickster04> maybe restart first though?
#1029 [17:41] <danxtag> its doing that but it jjust froze
#1030 [17:42] <mickster04> how froze?
#1031 [17:42] <mickster04> what screen?
#1032 [17:42] <danxtag> rember the old computers that froze all the time with that white screen
#1033 [17:43] <mickster04> so your PC is frozen or the program?
#1034 [17:43] <danxtag> the program came back
#1035 [17:44] <danxtag> but the background on the main menu is shorter and in down left conor
#1036 [17:44] <mickster04> danxtag: patience young jedi master
#1037 [17:44] <mickster04> option>graphics>ui scaling
#1038 [17:44] <mickster04> sumat like that
#1039 [17:45] <danxtag> shiit got werid bro
#1040 [17:45] <danxtag> everything is small
#1041 [17:45] <danxtag> and the background is still the same
#1042 [17:46] <danxtag> should i like put a texture pack or something
#1043 [17:46] <mickster04> danxtag: probably not
#1044 [17:46] <mickster04> restart your pc? what OS you using?
#1045 [17:46] <danxtag> windows xp
#1046 [17:47] <danxtag> OS: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 3 CPU:total 1 (1 cores per cpu, 1 threads per core) family 15 model 4 stepping 9, cmov, cx8, fxsr, mmx, sse, sse2, sse3 Memory: 4k page, physical 507376k(29784k free), swap 1182252k(278132k free) vm_info: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.4-b02) for windows-x86 JRE (1.6.0_29-b11), built on Oct 3 2011 01:01:08 by "java_re" with MS VC++ 7.1 (VS2003) time: Tue Feb 14 02:03:24 2012 elapsed time: 630 seconds
#1047 [17:47] <mickster04> ok
#1048 [17:47] <mickster04> uhm, reboot and see what happens :p
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#1056 [17:54] <TheNexusElement> Anyone able to help check 184.146.82.101? canyouseeme.org says its port is closed, but in my router its set to open
#1057 [17:54] <danxtag> minecraft litte thing that say stuff is saying fuk you
#1058 [17:55] <mickster04> TheNexusElement: it's not pingeable
#1059 [17:55] <danxtag> what should i fo
#1060 [17:55] <danxtag> and it got smaller
#1061 [17:55] <mickster04> TheNexusElement: but i haven't got nmap installed so i can't see if there are any ports open
#1062 [17:55] <TheNexusElement> so what could possible problems be?
#1063 [17:56] <mickster04> TheNexusElement: well which port(s) have you opened
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#1065 [17:56] <TheNexusElement> 25500-25600
#1066 [17:56] <Pacha> !check 184.146.82.101
#1067 [17:56] <danxtag> should i tmake a world and try it out
#1068 [17:57] <mickster04> TheNexusElement: and is any server listening to those ports for anything?
#1069 [17:57] <mickster04> TheNexusElement: your outer may still disallow pings
#1070 [17:57] <TheNexusElement> whare would i find that in the router?
#1071 [17:57] <TheNexusElement> *where
#1072 [17:59] <mickster04> TheNexusElement: iunno, your router, not mine :p
#1073 [17:59] <Subnatural> Hi guys, I am trying to start up a server. I did it a while ago, but stopped, and would like to restart a server up again. I have reinstalled windows since I last ran the server though, so my static ip address is all messed up. Also, my router doesn't seem to have a static ip anymore, and when I tried to change it to a static IP, it messed up my internet, and I had to reset everything
#1074 [17:59] <Subnatural> back to default in order to reconnect to the internet
#1075 [17:59] <TheNexusElement> WNDR4000 netgear model N700
#1076 [18:01] <TheNexusElement> it's a bukkit server...
#1077 [18:03] <danxtag> does this irc use java in anyway ??
#1078 [18:03] <Pacha> danxtag: your client might
#1079 [18:04] <danxtag> damn
#1080 [18:04] <Pacha> What are you using to connect to #minecrafthelp?
#1081 [18:04] <danxtag> most ppl need help with minecraft then want to talk about minecraft
#1082 [18:05] <danxtag> i have no idea
#1083 [18:05] <Pacha> are you on www.minecraftforum.net and talking to us?
#1084 [18:05] <danxtag> forget it ava installed
#1085 [18:05] <danxtag> yes
#1086 [18:05] <Pacha> I think that uses flash.
#1087 [18:06] <TheNexusElement> So does anyone know why a port forwarded port wouldnt be open?
#1088 [18:07] <Pacha> TheNexusElement: did you forward the port yourself?
#1089 [18:07] <TheNexusElement> Yes
#1090 [18:08] <Pacha> So what's saying the port isn't open?
#1091 [18:08] <TheNexusElement> canyouseeme.org. and the fact noone can connect to my server
#1092 [18:08] <Pacha> Do you have the server running right now?
#1093 [18:09] <TheNexusElement> yes
#1094 [18:09] <Pacha> ;check TheNexusElement
#1095 [18:09] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: bas2-hamilton02-3096597093.dsl.bell.ca:25565 (Timed out)
#1096 [18:09] <Pacha> Connection timed out :/
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#1098 [18:10] <Subnatural> Hey did you guys see my last post? Just wondering cuz my internet's being kind of annoying right now
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#1100 [18:11] <TheNexusElement> Thats what I mean...
#1101 [18:11] <TheNexusElement> http://s14.postimage.org/iw38wnt1t/Untitled.png
#1102 [18:11] <QuicK> hey, any coders on?
#1103 [18:11] <TheNexusElement> Thats a picture of my router port settings
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#1105 [18:12] <Pacha> If it makes you feel any better canyouseeme.org says it can't see that the port is open but everyone can join my server
#1106 [18:12] <Pacha> can't the port is open on my server i meant*
#1107 [18:12] <TheNexusElement> well even when you tried to connect you had no luck
#1108 [18:15] <Pacha> Well, I can't see what's wrong. I looked at the img and I didn't see anything wrong with how you forwarded it.
#1109 [18:15] <Pacha> Have you ever gotten the server to work before?
#1110 [18:16] <TheNexusElement> Yes, less than a week ago.
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#1112 [18:16] <Pacha> Did you have the ports forwarded then?
#1113 [18:16] <TheNexusElement> yes
#1114 [18:17] <Pacha> Did you happen to check canyouseeme.org then also?
#1115 [18:17] <TheNexusElement> yes, it had said open
#1116 [18:18] <TheNexusElement> or success, I can see you
#1117 [18:18] <Pacha> Well, did you change anything from then to now?
#1118 [18:18] <TheNexusElement> Nope
#1119 [18:19] <QuicK> whats the ip
#1120 [18:19] <TheNexusElement> albaingubrath.dyndns.org
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#1122 [18:21] <Pacha> TheNexusElement: AuBot and WugBot both say they have no connection to your server
#1123 [18:21] <TheNexusElement> So what does that mean, and how could I attempt to fix it?
#1124 [18:23] <Pacha> It means that the ports aren't forwarded (at least not correctly) and since I don't have the same router as you, It's a different set up. Try looking for guides on YouTube and The minecraft forums.
#1125 [18:23] <Subnatural> Hey so I'm trying to set up a minecraft server, but I can't figure out the static ip address thing. Can someone help?
#1126 [18:24] <TheNexusElement> Subnatural: Don't get static, just get DHCP Reservation
#1127 [18:24] <JohnEBH> ??> smp/serversetup
#1128 [18:25] <JohnEBH> ?? smp/serversetup
#1129 [18:25] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: Lots of information here:
#1130 [18:25] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1131 [18:25] <Subnatural> So should I just google that, TheNexusElement?
#1132 [18:26] <Pacha> Subnatural: Yes or look it up on YouTube
#1133 [18:26] <Subnatural> Alright, thanks dude.
#1134 [18:26] <Pacha> Your welcome :3
#1135 [18:32] <Subnatural> Ok, so I found a guide, but I can't fine the dhcp reservation thing in my router's set up
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#1137 [18:39] <Subnatural> So...Can anyone help?
#1138 [18:41] <Subnatural> Anyone else actually here? Lol
#1139 [18:41] <Subnatural> Anyone else actually here? Lol
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#1141 [18:43] <Wug> I'm in class, sorry
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#1143 [18:48] * |Kiikun| has arrisen from the grave!
#1143 [18:49] * |Kiikun| stalks some villagers and bangs down doors
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#1145 [18:55] <Dylan> SOI Out today! YAY!
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#1148 [19:00] <danxtag> back
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#1150 [19:00] <danxtag> and i need help
#1151 [19:01] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Is there any variant of the redstone directional quirks that involves up/down orientation?
#1152 [19:02] <danxtag> i belive u use redstone torches to go up or down
#1153 [19:02] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I have 4 identical piston lock "platters" stacked atop one another (far enough for the torches and such to not conflict), and only the top one works - on the other 3, one piston stays on for a microsecond too long and causes the one behind it to not fire
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#1156 [19:03] <hmmwhatsthisdo> danxtag: not like that, as in any variant of the N/W quirk that involves up/down
#1157 [19:03] <danxtag> i dont under stand
#1158 [19:03] <Dylan> redstonetorches only go up
#1159 [19:04] <danxtag> no
#1160 [19:04] <hmmwhatsthisdo> <hmmwhatsthisdo> I have 4 identical piston lock "platters" stacked atop one another (far enough for the torches and such to not conflict), and only the top one works - on the other 3, one piston stays on for a microsecond too long and causes the one behind it to not fire
#1161 [19:04] <david62650> i have an mc server but my internal or external are not joinable. and localhost on the host pc is useable
#1162 [19:04] <danxtag> trasnlate it in dumb
#1163 [19:04] <david62650> i have all ports done and the latest java
#1164 [19:04] <hmmwhatsthisdo> tl;dr: 4 identical redstone contraptions stacked above each other but out of the way for any redstone interference
#1165 [19:04] <hmmwhatsthisdo> and only the top one works
#1166 [19:04] <danxtag> oh
#1167 [19:04] <hmmwhatsthisdo> the rest are bugged
#1168 [19:04] <danxtag> thats simple
#1169 [19:05] <danxtag> i once made something like that
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#1171 [19:05] <danxtag> but do u want all of them to fire at the same time
#1172 [19:06] <danxtag> if u want that
#1173 [19:06] <danxtag> your going have to use redstone
#1174 [19:06] <hmmwhatsthisdo> no, they're supposed to fire in rapid sequence to advance a ring of stone and glass
#1175 [19:06] <hmmwhatsthisdo> and I am using redstone
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#1177 [19:07] <hmmwhatsthisdo> the problem is that only the top contraption works, but they're all identical
#1178 [19:07] <danxtag> try this
#1179 [19:07] <hmmwhatsthisdo> and spaced far enough apart for no interference to be possible
#1180 [19:07] <danxtag> put 4 stack of stone ,wood ,anything really
#1181 [19:08] <Subnatural> Hey guys I'm trying to set up a server, and I've got the port forwarding done, but I can't connect for some reason when I have server running, and I try to use the ip i get from whatismyip.com
#1182 [19:08] <danxtag> next to the the contraptions
#1183 [19:08] <danxtag> add red stone torchs to all of them
#1184 [19:08] <hmmwhatsthisdo> why?
#1185 [19:08] <danxtag> to test it
#1186 [19:09] <danxtag> if the contraptions work normly
#1187 [19:09] <danxtag> u may have to use alot of wireing
#1188 [19:09] <danxtag> if they work normaly
#1189 [19:10] <hmmwhatsthisdo> eh, I don't think that will work. Let me grab a screenshot of it so you can see what I have.
#1190 [19:10] <danxtag> ok
#1191 [19:11] <david62650> is some one free?
#1192 [19:11] <hmmwhatsthisdo> the reason I'm asking is because the 4 are physically identical (I used WorldEdit to copy/paste them and then verified they were all the same)
#1193 [19:12] <danxtag> @david are u asking if someone is useing a illegal minecraft versoin
#1194 [19:12] <danxtag> dude
#1195 [19:13] <danxtag> mods are gay
#1196 [19:13] <david62650> no
#1197 [19:13] <danxtag> then what are you asking
#1198 [19:14] <david62650> im asking for help setting up a server
#1199 [19:14] <danxtag> oh
#1200 [19:14] <danxtag> then i cant help
#1201 [19:14] <danxtag> hmm
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#1203 [19:14] <danxtag> i think in minecrafts new update pistons dont work like that
#1204 [19:14] <david62650> i have an mc server but my internal or external are not joinable. and localhost on the host pc is useable
#1205 [19:15] <danxtag> i need help minecraft closes everytime it loads my world
#1206 [19:15] <clarjon1> danxtag: have you tried loading a new world?
#1207 [19:16] <danxtag> yes
#1208 [19:16] <Wug> ;addalt MagiC3PO Magiobiwan
#1209 [19:16] <WugBot> Registered Magiobiwan as alt nick of MagiC3PO.
#1210 [19:17] <clarjon1> danxtag: does it load said new world?
#1211 [19:17] <danxtag> yes
#1212 [19:17] <clarjon1> sounds like your one map is corrupted
#1213 [19:17] <danxtag> it closes when its simualting world for a lit bit
#1214 [19:17] <clarjon1> danxtag: The new map, that you create, cna you play it
#1215 [19:18] <danxtag> no
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#1217 [19:20] <david62650> i have an mc server but my internal or external are not joinable. and localhost on the host pc is useable
#1218 [19:20] <david62650> i have all ports done and the latest java
#1219 [19:22] <hmmwhatsthisdo> danxtag: http://i.imgur.com/0w2v9.jpg
#1220 [19:22] <hmmwhatsthisdo> That's the top level.
#1221 [19:23] <danxtag> what texture pack is that
#1222 [19:23] <hmmwhatsthisdo> as you can probably see, the pulse creators make it rather difficult to just use an always-on circuit
#1223 [19:23] <hmmwhatsthisdo> the Minecraft Enhanced 128x pack
#1224 [19:24] <hmmwhatsthisdo> would you like me to get you one that shows the redstone that's off? (it's kinda hard to see)
#1225 [19:24] <danxtag> ok
#1226 [19:24] <danxtag> i should warn u
#1227 [19:24] <danxtag> i havent made something this complex before
#1228 [19:25] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Oh.
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#1230 [19:27] <danxtag> i think u should doubblle check see if anything is odd or out of place
#1231 [19:27] <hmmwhatsthisdo> they're all exactly identical
#1232 [19:28] * |Kiikun| sees a piston loop.
#1232 [19:28] <danxtag> ,mods you cant trust them
#1233 [19:28] <|Kiikun|> hmmwhatsthisdo: what you tryign to make it do?
#1234 [19:28] <hmmwhatsthisdo> in fact, I cleared out the bottom 3 and used worldedit to paste the 3 loops
#1235 [19:28] <danxtag> http://i.imgur.com/6RqyE.png
#1236 [19:28] <danxtag> why is my minecraft like this
#1237 [19:28] <|Kiikun|> and yes.. i dont trust anything like worldedit to duplicate anythign as complex as redstone
#1238 [19:29] <danxtag> see
#1239 [19:29] <hmmwhatsthisdo> They're still all exactly the same - I checked
#1240 [19:29] <hmmwhatsthisdo> down to the last repeater
#1241 [19:29] <|Kiikun|> danxtag: o.o;;;; first time ive seen that
#1242 [19:30] <hmmwhatsthisdo> it's supposed to advance the loop clockwise as the tumbler portion of a 4-digit b15 lock
#1243 [19:30] <|Kiikun|> danxtag: no mods? if not im thinking either java, video, or a slightly corrupt minecraft.
#1244 [19:31] <hmmwhatsthisdo> looks like bad video settings, make sure you're on the latest java
#1245 [19:31] <hmmwhatsthisdo> and your gfx drivers are up-to-date
#1246 [19:31] <hmmwhatsthisdo> |Kiikun|: the problem is that the 3 under it are non-functional - the bottom-right piston stays on for a fraction of a second too long, causing the top-right one to fail
#1247 [19:33] <|Kiikun|> hmmwhatsthisdo: you checked it for accidental piston quasiconnectivity? pistons are... odd when it comes to power sometimes. its a bug but its also the key component to a Block Update Detector
#1248 [19:33] <danxtag> has no grapich car
#1249 [19:33] <danxtag> but is able to play skyrim
#1250 [19:33] <hmmwhatsthisdo> danxtag: integrated?
#1251 [19:33] <hmmwhatsthisdo> it still has drivers of some sort
#1252 [19:33] <danxtag> but isnt able to play minecraft
#1253 [19:33] <david62650> its keeps tellimg me that my port is closed and i know its forwared
#1254 [19:33] <|Kiikun|> danxtag: if you have no graphic card, you have no monitor.
#1255 [19:33] <hmmwhatsthisdo> |Kiikun|: I'm sorry, but I've run out of scrabble tiles. What the hell does quasiconnectivity mean?
#1256 [19:34] <|Kiikun|> david62650: have you tried connecting to the internal ip?
#1257 [19:34] <hmmwhatsthisdo> also, you could have integrated onboard gfx
#1258 [19:34] <danxtag> i have a graphic card
#1259 [19:34] <danxtag> but i dont what type
#1260 [19:34] <danxtag> so i dont which drivers to get
#1261 [19:34] <david62650> it wont see it on pc 2
#1262 [19:34] <danxtag> http://chzragecomics.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/97472bc5-787c-4920-bfe1-a29f1dedfaf6.png
#1263 [19:34] <hmmwhatsthisdo> danxtag: it should say in the Display options
#1264 [19:34] <|Kiikun|> danxtag: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, Digitronix, or Haiku OS?
#1265 [19:34] <david62650> my host pc sees localhost and the internal
#1266 [19:35] <hmmwhatsthisdo> |Kiikun|: the window frame suggests XP
#1267 [19:35] <|Kiikun|> i dont recognise that as XP.
#1268 [19:35] <hmmwhatsthisdo> david62650: do you use a modem from your ISP and a router?
#1269 [19:35] <|Kiikun|> unles thats the Noir setup
#1270 [19:35] <hmmwhatsthisdo> |Kiikun|: it's a theme from microsoft
#1271 [19:35] <david62650> wifi router to motem but the hoster is wired to router and its worked before but i dont know why its not now
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#1273 [19:36] <JohnEBH> david62650, The static IP of the computer changed
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#1275 [19:36] <danxtag> xp
#1276 [19:36] <JohnEBH> david62650, You're going to have to redo the port forward and this time assign a static IP to the PC in the router
#1277 [19:36] <|Kiikun|> ??> danxtag win/dxdiag
#1278 [19:36] <VoxelHead> danxtag: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1279 [19:36] <VoxelHead> danxtag: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1280 [19:36] <JohnEBH> Finally ^
#1281 [19:37] <david62650> do i use the ip4 address
#1282 [19:37] <hmmwhatsthisdo> you mean IPv4?
#1283 [19:37] <david62650> ipv4
#1284 [19:37] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I'd recommend so.
#1285 [19:37] <hmmwhatsthisdo> |Kiikun|: so, any recommendations on how to fix this thing?
#1286 [19:37] <|Kiikun|> david62650: yes. the one ipconfig calls the 'ipv4 address'
#1287 [19:38] <david62650> its all done with the right ip
#1288 [19:38] <|Kiikun|> hmmwhatsthisdo: is this in smp or singleplayer?
#1289 [19:39] <hmmwhatsthisdo> S/CMP
#1290 [19:39] <|Kiikun|> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Issues/Piston_Quasiconnectivity_Bug
#1291 [19:39] <|Kiikun|> and that explainf the quasiconnectivity bug
#1292 [19:39] <hmmwhatsthisdo> it's an MP server, but some are on survival and some on creative
#1293 [19:40] * hmmwhatsthisdo is on creative atm
#1293 [19:40] <|Kiikun|> basicly, pistons powered by block not directly adjacent to it
#1294 [19:40] <hmmwhatsthisdo> oh god.
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#1296 [19:41] <|Kiikun|> wanna msg me the ip and tp me so i can see if i spot any troublespots?
#1297 [19:41] <danxtag> http://pastebin.com/JWjhcKiY
#1298 [19:42] <danxtag> wat know
#1299 [19:43] <danxtag> i did what u said
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#1301 [19:43] <danxtag> i still dont know which driver my viedo card is
#1302 [19:46] <danxtag> can someone explain to me
#1303 [19:46] <JohnEBH> danxtag, wait.
#1304 [19:46] <david62650> i have an mc server but my internal or external are not joinable. and localhost on the host pc is useable
#1305 [19:46] <danxtag> ok
#1306 [19:46] <JohnEBH> danxtag, Jesus, people need to read your paste.
#1307 [19:47] <JohnEBH> david62650, Have you tried making a firewall exception?
#1308 [19:47] <david62650> my fire wall is off i think
#1309 [19:47] <JohnEBH> danxtag, VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP
#1310 [19:47] <JohnEBH> danxtag, Go crazy and find your drivers
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#1312 [19:49] <Jordon> I'm having troubles running my minecraft client, http://pastie.org/3377484 is the error i get
#1313 [19:50] <zkxs> Looks like it can't find openGL
#1314 [19:50] <Jordon> How can i fix that?
#1315 [19:50] <zkxs> update your video drivers
#1316 [19:50] <Jordon> My video drivers are up to date
#1317 [19:51] <zkxs> are you on linux?
#1318 [19:51] <Jordon> ye
#1319 [19:52] <danxtag> windows
#1320 [19:52] <danxtag> has a minecraft versoin
#1321 [19:52] <danxtag> but try to download the linux versoin of minecraft on windows
#1322 [19:52] <danxtag> its faster then normal
#1323 [19:52] <Jordon> What are you talking about danxtag? I'm running linux
#1324 [19:53] <Pacha> danxtag: Who are you even talking to?
#1325 [19:53] <danxtag> anyone whos stupid enough to listen to that
#1326 [19:54] <clarjon1> http://hackedirl.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/epic-win-photos-valentines-card-win.jpg
#1327 [19:54] <clarjon1> oh, whoops, wrong channel
#1328 [19:54] <zkxs> Jordon: are you running as root?
#1329 [19:54] <Jordon> yes
#1330 [19:54] <zkxs> why?
#1331 [19:54] <Jordon> I always run terminal as root
#1332 [19:54] <Pacha> danxtag: Are you trying to confuse people? Because you really shouldn't do that...
#1333 [19:55] <hmmwhatsthisdo> |Kiikun|: Sorry bout that, the server shits on itself sometimes
#1334 [19:56] <|Kiikun|> yeah.
#1335 [19:56] <|Kiikun|> :P
#1336 [19:56] <Jordon> zkxs: I get the error still when not running as root
#1337 [19:56] <zkxs> what do you get when you ls /root/.minecraft/bin/natives/
#1338 [19:57] <Jordon> libjinput-linux64.so liblwjgl64.so libopenal64.so libjinput-linux.so liblwjgl.so libopenal.so
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#1341 [20:02] <zkxs> Jordon: what version of java are you running?
#1342 [20:02] <Jordon> 1.7.
#1343 [20:02] <Jordon> 0
#1344 [20:02] <Magiobiwan> Update it!
#1345 [20:03] <zkxs> is it openjdk?
#1346 [20:03] <Jordon> no, oracle
#1347 [20:03] <zkxs> wat
#1348 [20:03] <Magiobiwan> Seriously Java version 1.7.0? Isn't public Java 7.0 by now?
#1349 [20:03] <Jordon> it's java 7
#1350 [20:03] <Jordon> lol
#1351 [20:03] <Kealper> no
#1352 [20:03] <zkxs> AHA
#1353 [20:03] <Jordon> it's just put as 1.7.0 lol
#1354 [20:03] <Kealper> 1.7 and 7 are the exact same Java
#1355 [20:04] <Kealper> they just abbriviate it as "7" or "6"
#1356 [20:04] <zkxs> minecraft does not like java 7
#1357 [20:04] * Magiobiwan wonders why Sun must be so silly in their version numbering
#1357 [20:04] <Jordon> so what are you proposing zkxs?
#1358 [20:04] <danxtag> minecraft with java 7 <3
#1359 [20:04] <Magiobiwan> I mean, version 1.7.0 = Java 7
#1360 [20:04] <Magiobiwan> WTF!
#1361 [20:04] <Kealper> zkxs: generally depends on the user's setup, it's hit or miss with 7 usually
#1362 [20:05] <zkxs> Jordon: If you were to downgrade, it would most likely fix minecraft.
#1363 [20:05] <Kealper> what error is he getting?
#1364 [20:05] <Jordon> Alright zkxs, i'll try that
#1365 [20:05] <zkxs> Kealper: http://pastie.org/3377484
#1366 [20:07] <Kealper> yeah i'd have basically said the same thing, with the trying Java 1.6 lol
#1367 [20:10] <danxtag> finshed downloading drivers for my pc
#1368 [20:10] <danxtag> nothing has changed
#1369 [20:13] <zkxs> did you install them too?
#1370 [20:14] <danxtag> need help again
#1371 [20:14] <zkxs> danxtag: Did you install the driver you just downloaded?
#1372 [20:16] <danxtag> yes
#1373 [20:17] <zkxs> danxtag: and did it prompt you to reboot?
#1374 [20:17] <danxtag> nope
#1375 [20:18] <danxtag> should i reboot my comp
#1376 [20:18] <Magiobiwan> Yes
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#1378 [20:18] <Magiobiwan> What driver were you installign?
#1379 [20:18] <Magiobiwan> A Graphics driver?
#1380 [20:18] <zkxs> yes
#1381 [20:19] <Magiobiwan> Did your screen flicker or go black briefly?
#1382 [20:19] <Magiobiwan> That's typically the sign that the driver installed completely.
#1383 [20:20] <LegendaryB3ast> If I start making a texture pack in 1.1, how can I update it without losing the data for 1.2?
#1384 [20:21] <danxtag> waiting for 1.2
#1385 [20:21] <danxtag> and then make the texture pack
#1386 [20:22] <LegendaryB3ast> That's what I may do, but I want to at least start it. Can I start on something like armor?
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#1388 [20:24] <LegendaryB3ast> Because nothing SHOULD change in the armor folder.
#1389 [20:24] <danxtag> they might change it
#1390 [20:24] <danxtag> so i suggest u wait
#1391 [20:25] <danxtag> becouse me and my frineds have been haveing some bugs with the armor
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#1393 [20:25] <LegendaryB3ast> Ok at least I can start on the map I'm making it for.
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#1395 [20:26] <zkxs> LegendaryB3ast: You can start working on whatever you want. When the new textures come out, you just need to paste your images to the new texture file.
#1396 [20:26] <LegendaryB3ast> The map is gonna be pretty awesome.
#1397 [20:26] <danxtag> lol
#1398 [20:27] <LegendaryB3ast> How would I "paste" the image files?
#1399 [20:27] <danxtag> theres some aweosome ppl that make texture packs just for a channglle map
#1400 [20:27] <zkxs> Use an image editor. GIMP is free.
#1401 [20:27] <danxtag> does ppl are sexy and awsome
#1402 [20:27] <LegendaryB3ast> I am using GIMP lol
#1403 [20:28] <LegendaryB3ast> I don't know why some people prefer paint.net, Ive used both and GIMP is better
#1404 [20:29] <zkxs> well, take terrain.png for example
#1405 [20:29] <LegendaryB3ast> Ok
#1406 [20:29] <zkxs> when the textures are updated, more of the pink squares will be filled in
#1407 [20:29] <LegendaryB3ast> Yes
#1408 [20:29] <zkxs> however, the existing objects should be the same
#1409 [20:30] <zkxs> you just need to copy the squares you changed in 1.1 into 1.2's terrain.png
#1410 [20:30] <LegendaryB3ast> So it won't get deleted or anything... Yeah how do you copy it
#1411 [20:31] <zkxs> I suppose you haven't made a texture pack before?
#1412 [20:32] <LegendaryB3ast> Sort of... But how do you copy something to a different place is what I'm asking now
#1413 [20:32] <zkxs> in gimp, you can select an area, then Ctrl+C to copy it to the clipboard
#1414 [20:33] <zkxs> then in a different image, you can ctrl + v to paste it as a new layer
#1415 [20:33] <LegendaryB3ast> Oh ok
#1416 [20:33] <zkxs> The layer's name should show up as 'pasted layer', and by changing the name you save the layer
#1417 [20:34] <danxtag> so i need good texture packs
#1418 [20:34] <danxtag> send me some please
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#1420 [20:34] <LegendaryB3ast> Well danxtag, the texture pack is for my map.
#1421 [20:35] <LegendaryB3ast> When I'm done with the map I can give you both.
#1422 [20:38] <LegendaryB3ast> I have this idea where the texture for lily pads will look like glass platforms and aI will make them float with MCEdit
#1423 [20:38] <zkxs> danxtag: this one is the best ever: http://zcraft.no-ip.org:8080/tmp/derp.zip
#1424 [20:39] <LegendaryB3ast> If my map gets a lot of downloads Ill make more. How many does the average map get?
#1425 [20:42] <LegendaryB3ast> Well thanks zkxs bye
#1426 [20:42] <zkxs> bye
#1427 [20:43] <zkxs> bah, that ruins the joke
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#1431 [20:55] <|Kiikun|> heh :P
#1432 [20:56] <|Kiikun|> zkxs: im scared as to what your derp-age is...
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#1434 [20:56] <zkxs> :D
#1435 [20:57] <zkxs> i took it down ;)
#1436 [20:57] <zkxs> It was only terrain.png inverted in a zip file
#1437 [20:58] <|Kiikun|> ... lol
#1438 [21:00] <zkxs> I need to make it better
#1439 [21:00] <|Kiikun|> color invert it... make smoothstone look like iron. make ALL ores look liek smoothstone
#1440 [21:00] <zkxs> yesh
#1441 [21:00] <|Kiikun|> :3
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#1443 [21:01] <zkxs> and all text will have a leading §k
#1444 [21:03] <|Kiikun|> *frrrrrrt*
#1445 [21:04] <|Kiikun|> ;_;
#1446 [21:04] <|Kiikun|> no more choco syrup..
#1447 [21:04] <Xcuz> t^_^t
#1448 [21:07] <Xcuz> Noob question. How do I register on #minecraft?
#1449 [21:08] <Kealper> ? irc
#1450 [21:08] <Kealper> doop
#1451 [21:08] <Kealper> ?? irc
#1452 [21:08] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#1453 [21:08] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#1454 [21:08] <Kealper> read the second line that bot VoxelHead said
#1455 [21:09] <|Kiikun|> aws... i was just going to link http://esper.net/nickserv.php :P
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#1458 [21:24] <Kaminoyouni> hey, was having trouble connecting to multiplayer severs
#1459 [21:34] <Magiobiwan> Classic or Full?
#1460 [21:34] <Kaminoyouni> full
#1461 [21:35] <Magiobiwan> Hmm. Out of my Area of Expertise
#1462 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> Try connecting to mc.minecraftirc.net
#1463 [21:36] <Kaminoyouni> well when ever it ry to connectI get one of two messages, either "out dated sever" or "internal exception: java.net.socketexception: Connection reset"
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#1465 [21:36] <Kaminoyouni> okay I'll try that
#1466 [21:36] <Magiobiwan> What version of Java are you running?
#1467 [21:36] <Kaminoyouni> I'm not sure
#1468 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> With those messages, either you're running a newer version of the client than what the server is, or the server is down
#1469 [21:37] <zkxs> |Kiikun|: http://zcraft.no-ip.org:8080/files/BESTPACK-1.1.zip <-- its derp level is over 9000
#1470 [21:38] <Kaminoyouni> yeah I just got the outdated sever message again when trying to get on mc.minecraftirc.net
#1471 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Kaminoyouni - What version does your client say you're running?
#1472 [21:39] <Kaminoyouni> 12w06a
#1473 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> That would be why, you're running a prerelease/snapshot
#1474 [21:40] <Kaminoyouni> oh
#1475 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Force Update at the launcher's options menu to get the latest version
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#1478 [21:44] <Kaminoyouni> I'm not seeing a force update option
#1479 [21:44] <Kaminoyouni> I'm believe I'm running 1.1
#1480 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png
#1481 [21:44] <Kaminoyouni> 12w06a is just what it says t the conner of the title menu
#1482 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Right, you're running a development release, not the stable one
#1483 [21:44] <Kaminoyouni> ah sou
#1484 [21:44] <Kaminoyouni> sorry
#1485 [21:46] <Kaminoyouni> I can imagen how stupid I seem cause I failed to notice the obvious
#1486 [21:47] <Kaminoyouni> now, this shouldn't affect stuff when I'm trying to play on my friend's private sever will it?
#1487 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> Nah, don't worry about it.
#1488 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> Only if your friend's private server was running the dev release as well
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#1490 [21:50] <Kaminoyouni> so do i just wait when this says "will force"
#1491 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Log in as normal
#1492 [21:51] <Kaminoyouni> I think I've up dated like this before
#1493 [21:51] <Kaminoyouni> its just been too long, i didn't remember
#1494 [21:51] <Kaminoyouni> my friend kept having me DL those snapshots
#1495 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Well, after minecraft downloads those files again, you should be running the latest stable 1.1
#1496 [21:52] <Kaminoyouni> cool
#1497 [21:53] <Kaminoyouni> I dunno if my friend was trying to pull my leg or not, but he said that creeper will be able to open doors in a future update?
#1498 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Don't think I've heard anything about that
#1499 [21:54] <Kaminoyouni> bah he's always tryign to pull one over on me like that >_<
#1500 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Upcoming_features
#1501 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Nothing there about that
#1502 [21:57] <zkxs> zombies, on the other hand, will be able to break down doors on hard difficulty.
#1503 [21:59] <Kaminoyouni> yeah, he must be joking, that would cause a whole lot of rage if mobs could open doors
#1504 [22:01] <Eddie> "Updated Language files, having "50%" less profanities."
#1505 [22:01] <Eddie> What?
#1506 [22:01] <Eddie> oops
#1507 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> There was a prankster who 'translated' in a profane word in one of the language locales for minecraft
#1508 [22:07] <Kaminoyouni> that was for the african language setting wasn't it?
#1509 [22:07] * GreyVulpine nods
#1509 [22:09] <|Kiikun|> creepers dont open doors. zombies break down doors.
#1510 [22:09] <|Kiikun|> creepers will stalk the player like ocelots stalk chickens though
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#1513 [22:12] <mickster04> cats will scare creepers :D
#1514 [22:12] <|Kiikun|> yup :D
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#1516 [22:26] <Kaminoyouni> from how close a proximity though
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#1519 [22:29] <sprog> i need help with a server mod
#1520 [22:30] <sprog> i need help with a server mod
#1521 [22:30] <clarjon1> server mod?
#1522 [22:30] <sprog> yes
#1523 [22:30] <clarjon1> we don't do mods here, due to the number of mods
#1524 [22:30] <sprog> its called
#1525 [22:30] <clarjon1> if it's a bukkit mod
#1526 [22:30] <clarjon1> ask in #bukkit ^_^
#1527 [22:30] <sprog> sigh
#1528 [22:36] <Kaminoyouni> heh seem like there isn't a sever can do vanilla survival without pvp
#1529 [22:38] <Kaminoyouni> one i just tried i got banned for breaking grass
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#1537 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> ?? snapshot
#1538 [23:50] <VoxelHead> snapshot: Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w05b/minecraft.jar
#1539 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> ??~ snapshot|Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w06a/minecraft.jar
#1540 [23:51] <Wug> I could probably make a magical page that stays always up to date and downloads the client and the server
#1541 [23:52] * Wug gets the php
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