#MinecraftHelp > 2012-02-15
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#18 [02:40] <magictj> Hi
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#21 [02:52] <Salty> hey guys
#22 [02:53] <Salty> anyone with experience setting up permissions?
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#26 [03:17] <matteo101> help me
#27 [03:17] <WugBot> matteo101: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#28 [03:17] <matteo101> wugbot :(
#29 [03:17] <matteo101> wugbot :(
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#34 [03:21] <matteo101> help
#35 [03:22] <matteo101> nvm
#36 [03:22] <matteo101> nvm
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#40 [04:18] <auscompgeek> ......................
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#48 [05:15] <GreyVulpine> ?? snapshot
#49 [05:15] <VoxelHead> snapshot: Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w06a/minecraft.jar
#50 [05:16] <GreyVulpine> ??~ snapshot|Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w07a/minecraft.jar
#51 [05:16] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#52 [05:16] <Grim_Reaper> ? GreyVulpine
#53 [05:16] <Grim_Reaper> ff
#54 [05:16] <Grim_Reaper> ?? GreyVulpine
#55 [05:16] <Grim_Reaper> ;_;
#56 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> :P
#57 [05:17] <Grim_Reaper> Damn you VoxelHead
#58 [05:17] <Grim_Reaper> I wanted to stalk him
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#60 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> Access Denied.
#61 [05:17] <Grim_Reaper> Actually no entry of you
#62 [05:17] <Grim_Reaper> So.. you dont actually.. exist :o
#63 [05:18] <Grim_Reaper> Also hai to you
#64 [05:18] * GreyVulpine waves
#64 [05:22] <auscompgeek> \o/
#65 [05:22] <Grim_Reaper> \o/
#66 [05:22] <auscompgeek> ?? auscompgeek
#67 [05:22] <auscompgeek> :P
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#80 [07:15] <Morrolan> "Added a redstone-controlled light source" :)
#81 [07:16] <Calinou> client-side lighting calculations will let me do light-emitting ores in MP, thanks. *trollface*
#82 [07:17] <Morrolan> Meh, it's not as if there were no mining-related hacks already. *shrug*
#83 [07:18] <Morrolan> Wait, that sentence came out wrong somehow. What I mean is "There are already mining-related hacks, so not much harm done"
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#85 [07:21] <HariboPenguin> brb
#86 [07:21] * Morrolan slaps HariboPenguin
#86 [07:21] <Morrolan> None likes amsgs, believe me.
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#89 [07:58] <Dylan> will my nearly compleated 1024x1024 texture pack crashe most computers?
#90 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> Good god, why
#91 [08:00] <Dylan> I made one because i wanted a challenge all hand drawn
#92 [08:02] <Dylan> took a while
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#94 [08:04] <Dylan> also
#95 [08:05] <Dylan> Apples are red.
#96 [08:05] <Dylan> :D
#97 [08:05] <Dylan> or green...
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#99 [08:06] <Philon> hi there
#100 [08:06] <Dylan> Hello
#101 [08:07] <Dylan> Join us!
#102 [08:07] <Philon> my minecraft freezes when downloading (deleted bin folder cuase I was trying to stop lag)
#103 [08:07] <Dylan> lol..
#104 [08:07] <Dylan> ok
#105 [08:07] <GreyVulpine> Philon - Does it freeze on any specific file?
#106 [08:07] <Dylan> easy lanch the lancher
#107 [08:07] <Philon> any ides?
#108 [08:07] <Dylan> options>force update>ok>login
#109 [08:08] <Philon> options? where
#110 [08:08] <Dylan> above login
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#112 [08:09] <EyesIsMine> somebody just pastebinned an error
#113 [08:09] <Philon> @greyvulpine - no, sometimes it stops at 0%, once it got to 35% or sth
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#115 [08:09] <Dylan> What is your minecraft name?
#116 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> Philon - What antivirus program do you run?
#117 [08:09] <Philon> kleiner_philip
#118 [08:09] <Philon> avg
#119 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> That would do it
#120 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> Go into AVG's options, disable the linkscanner module. Then try minecraft again
#121 [08:10] <Dylan> !paid kleiner_phillip
#122 [08:10] <Philon> yeah, i paid^^
#123 [08:10] <Dylan> !help
#124 [08:10] <Philon> what i did!
#125 [08:10] <EyesIsMine> !paid TheEyes
#126 [08:11] <EyesIsMine> since when?
#127 [08:11] <Philon> 2 weeks?
#128 [08:11] <Philon> 1 week? sth like that I paid 20€
#129 [08:12] <Dylan> WugBot says you havent paid aswell
#130 [08:12] <Philon> let me screenshot ym acct for you
#131 [08:12] <Philon> i absolutely paid.
#132 [08:12] <Philon> *my
#133 [08:12] <GreyVulpine> Philon - Go into AVG's options, disable the linkscanner module. Then try minecraft again
#134 [08:13] <Philon> I just did that, greyvulpine, will reply with result
#135 [08:13] <Dylan> crow also says you havent paid
#136 [08:13] <Dylan> 3 bots
#137 [08:14] <Dylan> 1 man
#138 [08:14] <Dylan> who to belive
#139 [08:14] <Philon> i don't care what your weird bots say, I can guarantee i paid
#140 [08:14] <Philon> im uploading a screenshot
#141 [08:15] <Dylan> so you could join my non cracked server?
#142 [08:15] <EyesIsMine> http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=kleiner_philip
#143 [08:15] <EyesIsMine> he's not lying
#144 [08:15] <Morrolan> Dylan - It doesn't matter whether he paid or not, now does it. If he did then it's fine, if he did not then he won't be able to download anyway.
#145 [08:15] <Morrolan> As for that paid script, if a user migrated his account to Mojang's global acc thingy it will, to my knowledge, not work properly.
#146 [08:16] <Dylan> Morrolan, he could use a cracked client
#147 [08:16] <Philon> i did use a cracked client, but I liked the game, wanted to support it, and bought it when it came out. there you go
#148 [08:16] <GreyVulpine> Cracked clients don't communicate with mojang's servers to download files
#149 [08:16] <Morrolan> ^
#150 [08:16] <Dylan> Morrolan my account is migrated no problems
#151 [08:16] <EyesIsMine> neither do legit clients
#152 [08:16] <Morrolan> Most cracked clients get shipped with the files I believe.
#153 [08:17] <Dylan> no
#154 [08:17] <Philon> not sure if proof:
#155 [08:17] <Philon> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/10573669.jpg/
#156 [08:17] <EyesIsMine> cracked clients can just download them straight of amazon
#157 [08:17] <Dylan> yep
#158 [08:18] <Philon> thanks, greyvulpine, worked! now, anyone know how I can fix those extreme lags I've been having? I downloaded optifine, but I think that was what crashed my game in the first place.
#159 [08:18] <Morrolan> Turning down view distance helps a lot.
#160 [08:18] <Philon> i can play for a couple minutes (1-5 or so), then the game almost totally freezes up
#161 [08:19] <Philon> will it stop the lags or just delay them?
#162 [08:19] <Dylan> also if you install a mod delete META-INF!
#163 [08:19] <Philon> i did that
#164 [08:19] <Morrolan> Turning dow view distance will increase fps in general, not sure whether it'll help with the game freezing after a while.
#165 [08:19] <Philon> I've read through a lot of pages, finally I found this chat -.-
#166 [08:20] <Morrolan> EyesIsMine - Cracked clients grab the files straight from Amazon's cloud? That is kind of silly. :S
#167 [08:20] <Philon> hmm... I do like to see the beautiful landscape ;)
#168 [08:21] <Philon> sounds like an awesome crack^^ dowsn't the amazon cloud have any kind of authorization?
#169 [08:21] <Dylan> nope
#170 [08:21] <Morrolan> Philon - Things you could try are updating Java, making sure you are using 64 bit Java if on a 64 bit OS, buying more RAM if you don't have much etc etc.
#171 [08:22] <Dylan> run as admin
#172 [08:22] <GreyVulpine> Pretty much all cracked clients come with the files.
#173 [08:22] <Dylan> no
#174 [08:22] <Philon> morralan, I did update java, I have 32bit win7 core2quad 2,6ghz, gtx260, 3.3 ram available (32bit...)
#175 [08:22] <EyesIsMine> I only know of one cracked client
#176 [08:23] <EyesIsMine> hasn't been updated since alpha
#177 [08:23] <EyesIsMine> but works flawlessly
#178 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> We deal with cracked clients constantly here
#179 [08:23] <Philon> there are new cracked clients coming out after every release
#180 [08:23] <Dylan> i use it when im offline
#181 [08:24] <Philon> ok, afk testing the new minecraft installation, will report back to you guys
#182 [08:24] <Dylan> Phillon you talking about the one with the user name input
#183 [08:24] <Dylan> and backups
#184 [08:24] <Philon> sry, not sure what your talking about
#185 [08:27] <afkPhilon> my game freezes when I press the "video options" button
#186 [08:27] <afkPhilon> ?
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#192 [09:20] <t3hkid> Hello are any of you good at minecraft offical server software
#193 [09:20] <xales> Perhaps if you just ask your question, anyone who can answer will answer.
#194 [09:22] <t3hkid> I try to join my minecraft server like i normally do with my bukkit i tryed that and it said it cant reach server so i tryed with my ip and it didnt work please can you help me?
#195 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> What IP do you use?
#196 [09:24] <t3hkid> my ip 86.183.62.246
#197 [09:24] <t3hkid> what it says on no-ip
#198 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> ;check 86.183.62.246
#199 [09:24] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 86.183.62.246:25565 (Timed out)
#200 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> Is the server running right now?
#201 [09:24] <t3hkid> yea
#202 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> On what computer are you running the server on?
#203 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> ;ip t3hkid
#204 [09:25] <WugBot> IP address of t3hkid is: 86.183.62.246
#205 [09:25] <t3hkid> The comptuer what i normally host my server on
#206 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> Which is..
#207 [09:25] <t3hkid> My windows computer
#208 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> Inside your house? The computer you're using right now? A different computer?
#209 [09:26] <t3hkid> Its inside my house
#210 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> Is it the computer you're using right now?
#211 [09:26] <t3hkid> yes
#212 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> Try using the address of 127.0.0.1
#213 [09:27] <t3hkid> lets me join with 127.0.0.1\localhost
#214 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> Then your problem lies with port forwarding
#215 [09:27] <t3hkid> No it doesnt
#216 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> Make sure your port forwarding settings are correct
#217 [09:28] <t3hkid> its wierd why bukkit will run but this no
#218 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> What port is the server running on?
#219 [09:28] <t3hkid> Defualt Minecraft server port
#220 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> Then double check your port forwarding settings in your router
#221 [09:29] <langkid1> Herro
#222 [09:29] <t3hkid> i know it works i was playing my bukkit server today
#223 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> Then there's nothing more I can do.
#224 [09:29] <langkid1> Lol
#225 [09:30] <t3hkid> It might be Buggy cause its 1.2?
#226 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> 1.2's not out yet
#227 [09:31] <t3hkid> snapshoy
#228 [09:31] <t3hkid> snapshot
#229 [09:31] * GreyVulpine points to /topic
#229 [09:32] <t3hkid> ok
#230 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> But if it works on 127.0.0.1/localhost, but not your public IP address, I'm absolutely sure it's your port forwarding
#231 [09:33] <t3hkid> do i need to put something into server.properties?
#232 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> No
#233 [09:40] <t3hkid> :/ minecraft own server software is wierd
#234 [09:42] <tyteen4a03> t3hkid: Try hosting any other server software, if your port forward settings are not correct they will all fail too
#235 [09:42] <t3hkid> i tryed 1.1
#236 [09:42] <t3hkid> server it WORKS :D
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#238 [10:26] <schnozzle> How do I patch Minecraft 1.1?
#239 [10:26] <Grim_Reaper> You can open the minecraft launcher and click options > force update
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#241 [10:29] <Hacym> So will I have to change my map to get the new things in 1.2??
#242 [10:29] <Hacym> On multiplayer server
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#244 [10:29] <nickynice> hey i need help whats min req for minecraft?
#245 [10:29] <nickynice> i got a Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller
#246 [10:29] <nickynice> and i still cant play wtf
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#248 [10:30] <nickynice> anyone?
#249 [10:30] <|Kiikun|> nickynice: did you update the driver from intel....
#250 [10:30] <|Kiikun|> yeah...
#251 [10:31] <schnozzle> can i patch it otherways?
#252 [10:31] <|Kiikun|> schnozzle: what are you tryign to do?
#253 [10:37] <schnozzle> a force update
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#255 [10:38] <|Kiikun|> :fu
#256 [10:38] <WugBot> fu: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#257 [10:38] <WugBot> fu: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#258 [10:39] <|Kiikun|> schnozzle: and you said you had 1.1 already. thats the current version of the game.
#259 [10:44] <Grim_Reaper> If you're wanting to test the 1.2 snapshot
#260 [10:44] <Grim_Reaper> ?? snapshot
#261 [10:44] <VoxelHead> snapshot: Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w07a/minecraft.jar
#262 [10:44] <Grim_Reaper> But this isn't a final release for 1.2
#263 [10:44] <Grim_Reaper> These are all test versions
#264 [10:44] <Grim_Reaper> Think of them as the pre releases in beta
#265 [10:45] <|Kiikun|> Grim_Reaper: 07b was released
#266 [10:46] <|Kiikun|> 07a had some bad crashes
#267 [10:46] <Grim_Reaper> oh :o
#268 [10:47] <|Kiikun|> ;search dev
#269 [10:47] <WugBot> Matches for "dev": amd/beta driver/naming smilingdevil wugbot
#270 [10:47] <|Kiikun|> ;search weekly
#271 [10:47] <WugBot> No matches for "weekly".
#272 [10:47] <|Kiikun|> ;search snapshot
#273 [10:47] <WugBot> No matches for "snapshot".
#274 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> ??~ snapshot|Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w07b/minecraft.jar
#275 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> Nothing to see here..
#276 [10:48] <|Kiikun|> i dont have vox privs :/
#277 [10:48] <|Kiikun|> oh hi grey :D
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#279 [10:49] <TheDeadlyShotz> Im having two problems, my client wont Auto-Update, and sound wont load when i open MC?
#280 [10:49] <xales> Is it muted...?
#281 [10:50] <Morrolan> Not auto-updating? WHat version are you using currently?
#282 [10:50] * Grim_Reaper waves to Morrolan
#282 [10:50] <Morrolan> You could also force an update by going to options->force update, then proceeding as usual.
#283 [10:50] * Morrolan waves to Grim_Reaper
#283 [10:50] <TheDeadlyShotz> Whenever i want to update, or when im bored of the latest snapshot
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#285 [10:50] <Morrolan> ??< forceupdate
#286 [10:50] <TheDeadlyShotz> i have to use minecraftforfree.com
#287 [10:51] * VoxelHead kicked TheDeadlyShotz from #minecrafthelp (Reason: heDeadlyShotz :Banned: Trying to steal)
#288 [10:51] <Morrolan> Haha.
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#290 [10:51] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#291 [10:51] <xales> O.o
#292 [10:51] <|Kiikun|> dumbass...
#293 [10:51] <Grim_Reaper> Holy snap I spawned ontop of a huge mountain (testing b snapshot)
#294 [10:51] <Grim_Reaper> And yeah water is way clearer
#295 [10:52] <|Kiikun|> wait.. water is clearer now?
#296 [10:52] <Grim_Reaper> Extremely
#297 [10:52] * |Kiikun| gets!
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#298 [10:52] <Grim_Reaper> I'll take a screeny quick
#299 [10:52] <PinkiePie> hi can anyone help me with my minecraftforfree.com
#300 [10:52] <Morrolan> *sigh*
#301 [10:52] <Grim_Reaper> Actually nvm just check yourself :p
#302 [10:52] <xales> derp.
#303 [10:52] <Grim_Reaper> Lol
#304 [10:53] <xales> yay badword filter/
#305 [10:53] <Grim_Reaper> Pirates >_>
#306 [10:53] <Morrolan> Meh, I guess they don't know better. *shrug*
#307 [10:53] <Grim_Reaper> Holy snap |Kiikun| it's like seethrough
#308 [10:53] * GreyVulpine blinks
#308 [10:53] <Grim_Reaper> I can see to the very bottom o_O
#309 [10:53] <Morrolan> On another note though, how big are the chances of two people using that site joining right after each other?
#310 [10:53] <DreadLindwyrm> Is the bot attuned to kick and ban people who mention "that site"?
#311 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#312 [10:54] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan I think it's the same person
#313 [10:54] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - comcast.net and cable.virginmedia.com? Look kinda different to me though.
#314 [10:54] <Grim_Reaper> proxy ftw?
#315 [10:54] <Morrolan> I thought the same at first as well, but these look like different providers.
#316 [10:54] <Morrolan> Maybe.
#317 [10:55] <Grim_Reaper> Also when decending in the water |Kiikun|. It's clearer near the top, but when you go the very bottom, it's lighter.. but you cant see as fast
#318 [10:55] <xales> Morrolan: ._.
#319 [10:55] <xales> The comcast.net was me.
#320 [10:55] <Grim_Reaper> But the transparancy from atop looks like.. .. yeah
#321 [10:55] <Grim_Reaper> It doesn't make sense when you go underwater
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#323 [10:55] <Morrolan> xales - ?
#324 [10:55] <Morrolan> Oh, uh, ok.
#325 [10:55] <xales> derp.
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#327 [10:56] * GreyVulpine snrks and kicks xales.
#327 [10:56] <Morrolan> Don't you derp on me, xales!
#328 [10:56] <xales> :<
#329 [10:56] * xales kicked xales from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ales :I'm sad today)
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#331 [10:57] <Morrolan> Poor xales.
#332 [10:57] <Grim_Reaper> ^
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#334 [10:57] <xales> :<
#335 [10:57] <xales> Grim_Reaper: Cheater.
#336 [10:57] <Morrolan> :)
#337 [10:57] <Grim_Reaper> Not mah fault you have join on invite d:
#338 [10:57] <xales> I only join on invite to channels that are set to autojoin
#339 [10:57] <xales> ._.
#340 [10:58] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#341 [10:59] <Grim_Reaper> Lighting is broken on the new snapshot ._".
#342 [10:59] <Grim_Reaper> And the brightness video setting hardly makes a difference
#343 [11:03] <|Kiikun|> i think its a bug in the lighting.
#344 [11:03] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah
#345 [11:03] <DreadLindwyrm> Could it be because of the new lighting and chunk building thing?
#346 [11:03] <|Kiikun|> https://twitter.com/#!/jeb_/status/169776476625965056
#347 [11:03] <Grim_Reaper> I've noticed theres quite a few unlit blocks in generated chucks as well
#348 [11:04] <Grim_Reaper> I would edit the wiki snapshot with the bugs but I dont haz access
#349 [11:04] <Grim_Reaper> Thanks for the 1) "New maps don't have caves" and 2) "Underground lighting doesn't work" bug reports! Not quick-fixing these, though =)
#350 [11:04] <Grim_Reaper> D:
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#353 [11:07] <DreadLindwyrm> So, a snapshot to avoid?
#354 [11:07] <Grim_Reaper> For now I would say yes
#355 [11:08] <Grim_Reaper> Specially because it converts your old saves if you play on them
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#358 [11:11] * |Kiikun| uses TNT-XRay to confirm lack of cave systems.
#358 [11:12] <Grim_Reaper> IF you can lol
#359 [11:12] <|Kiikun|> what you mean 'if'?
#360 [11:13] <Grim_Reaper> Do you actually mean using TNT to blow stuff up or a program?
#361 [11:13] <Grim_Reaper> If program. I hear people are having issues due to the block changes and stuff
#362 [11:13] <|Kiikun|> i mean using TNT as a non-suffocating or blinding solid block :P
#363 [11:13] <Grim_Reaper> :D
#364 [11:13] * |Kiikun| is in creative mode anyway
#364 [11:13] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#365 [11:14] <Grim_Reaper> Villagers will repopulate villages based on how many houses there are available.
#366 [11:14] <Grim_Reaper> The player may add houses to villages, provided they are enclosed with a roof and wooden door.[3][4]
#367 [11:14] <|Kiikun|> i have a mineshaft... with a rose in it
#368 [11:14] <Grim_Reaper> Lol
#369 [11:14] <Grim_Reaper> Somebody must have died there ;-;
#370 [11:14] <Grim_Reaper> Doesn't it make you wonder who built those mineshafts though ;-;
#371 [11:14] <Grim_Reaper> Cause I doubt it was the villagers
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#373 [11:15] <|Kiikun|> pre-appocolyptic civilization
#374 [11:15] <Grim_Reaper> Maybe notch-like people
#375 [11:15] <DreadLindwyrm> Grim_Reaper: That sounds good, but does it mean that if you build yourself a house in a village you'll come back to find that the villagers have stolen it?
#376 [11:16] <Grim_Reaper> By the sound of it DreamingInsane. Possibly :p
#377 [11:16] <Grim_Reaper> As long as it has an enclosed rood and wooden door
#378 [11:16] <Grim_Reaper> They'll most likely use it
#379 [11:17] <|Kiikun|> they wont beable to open iron doors.
#380 [11:18] <DreadLindwyrm> Unless you use pressure plate systems :D
#381 [11:18] <|Kiikun|> you could also use nonstandard doors (piston doors for example
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#383 [11:18] <DreadLindwyrm> Yeah, lever operated doors seem to be the way forward.
#384 [11:18] <henrikNOscout> hi
#385 [11:18] <henrikNOscout> mojang
#386 [11:18] <henrikNOscout> i need help!
#387 [11:19] <henrikNOscout> where i can contact notch?
#388 [11:19] <henrikNOscout> i need a email adress
#389 [11:19] <Grim_Reaper> help@mojang.com if you are lucky
#390 [11:19] <DreadLindwyrm> twitter?
#391 [11:19] <|Kiikun|> http://help.mojang.com
#392 [11:19] <henrikNOscout> ok thank you!
#393 [11:19] <|Kiikun|> i dont think they check the help email anymore now that the site is up
#394 [11:25] <|Kiikun|> yeah... nether lighting is forked too
#395 [11:25] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#396 [11:27] <henrikNOscout> HUH I CAN'T contact notch now :( but it is not importsnt i onky wanna report him that herobrine is ingame again becouse one of my friend thinked herobrine not is real but one time he meet him!!!!!!! and he ran away
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#398 [11:27] <henrikNOscout> he satnded right in front of him!
#399 [11:27] <henrikNOscout> standed*
#400 [11:28] <|Kiikun|> henrikNOscout: herobrine doesnt exist.. if it was multiplayer it was just another player
#401 [11:29] <henrikNOscout> it exist it does my friend have seen him it does notch trying deleting him from the game but he comes back in updates
#402 [11:29] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#403 [11:29] <Grim_Reaper> This is the worst troll ever
#404 [11:30] <DreadLindwyrm> herobrine cannot exist in game. There is no coding for him.
#405 [11:30] <|Kiikun|> yes. failtroll
#406 [11:30] <Grim_Reaper> ;kick henrikNOscout herobrine is non existant
#407 [11:30] * WugBot kicked henrikNOscout from #minecrafthelp (Reason: enrikNOscout :herobrine is non existant)
#408 [11:30] <DreadLindwyrm> In multiplayer someone could have been wearing his skin.
#409 [11:30] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#410 [11:30] <Grim_Reaper> Also there IS a char called herobrine
#411 [11:30] <|Kiikun|> thats why i said 'it was just another player'
#412 [11:30] <Grim_Reaper> But yeah ff >_>
#413 [11:30] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#414 [11:30] <|Kiikun|> !paid herobrine
#415 [11:30] <Grim_Reaper> :D
#416 [11:31] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah we all know if herobrine had not paid for minecraft, he would be real
#417 [11:34] * |Kiikun| flees to hell... i mean work
#417 [11:36] <Grim_Reaper> lol
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#420 [11:52] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: do you know what will happen if I convert indev format to anvil (I do have these worlds :P)
#421 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> See http://www.mojang.com/2012/02/15/minecraft-snapshot-12w07a/
#422 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> Wait, indev? No freakin idea
#423 [11:54] <Boreeas> >anvil?
#424 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> new file format
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#426 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> "Added new world file format called “Anvil” (256 max height and 4096 block IDs*)"
#427 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Also, different way of storing chunks now.
#428 [11:58] <Boreeas> Hmm, interesting
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#431 [12:06] <Hontong> Hello Guys, does anyone understand german ? or have i write my problem in english ? ^^
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#433 [12:08] <Boreeas> Hontong: Go ahead
#434 [12:14] <Hontong> mh i cant run Minecraft.. when i start the launcher have i wait 1min to see the news.. then is the launcher rdy to write my login name and password in the launcher. then when i klick on login, see i - logging in - in the launcher does nothing more.. i cant also open the option in the launcher.. but when i try it about the mcpatcher.. minecraft works.. i tryed also deinstall minecraft and jave but he doesnt work.
#435 [12:15] <magictj> What java do you have?
#436 [12:16] <Hontong> java(TM) 7 update 3
#437 [12:16] <Hontong> and also i see java tm 6 update 31 in my software list
#438 [12:17] <magictj> right so you've got Version 6 Update 31
#439 [12:17] <xales> Hontong: Remove Java 7.
#440 [12:17] <magictj> i was gonna say that so yh remove Java 7
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#442 [12:19] <Hontong> mh ok is removed but same problem, 30sec - 1min to get the news and i can write my login name and he stand on loggin in
#443 [12:19] <Hontong> no faild no error he does nothing.. ^^
#444 [12:20] <magictj> oh yh could anyone help me I downloaded a mod once but i didnt do it right and i messed up all my folders. I re-downloaded it and minecraft was working so i thought "Hey" i can do it again but my folders are still messed up with everything out of place
#445 [12:20] <magictj> Is there anyway to keep my server ip's and gameworlds and yet get all my folders to they way they should be
#446 [12:21] <xales> Uh, just move the folders...
#447 [12:21] <EyesIsMine> Hontong, have you got slow internet?
#448 [12:21] <magictj> I cant do that stuff draged into the wrong place and everything
#449 [12:22] <xales> ._.
#450 [12:22] <magictj> theres no way i can get it back to the way it was i need the folders againg but my world and multplayer server ip to still be there
#451 [12:23] <xales> The IP will not change regardless of what you do with the filesystem.
#452 [12:23] <xales> The world will not change unless you move or delete the world.
#453 [12:23] <Hontong> oh no.. very good internet.. and i played for mhh 3month minecraft with no problems.. at last night i tryed to login and then are they problem.. have i delet some from regedit ?
#454 [12:23] * xales doesn't understand what is so complicated about this
#454 [12:23] <xales> Hontong: Completely remove and reinstall Java.
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#456 [12:23] <xales> Version 6, not 7.
#457 [12:24] <magictj> What so how do i fix i xales
#458 [12:24] <Hontong> ok i will try it.. what i have to lose.. :)) and ty for the moment ;)
#459 [12:24] <xales> magictj: I already told you. Just move things to how they "should" be. ._.
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#461 [12:25] <Ji> uh hi, can someone help me with a Hamachi server please?
#462 [12:25] <xales> ??> Ji fubar/hamachi
#463 [12:25] <VoxelHead> Ji: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#464 [12:25] <VoxelHead> Ji: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#465 [12:25] <Ji> Fuck you
#466 [12:25] * AuBot kicked Ji from #minecrafthelp (Reason: i :Please keep it civil.)
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#468 [12:25] <Ji> Jesus christ
#469 [12:25] <Ji> What was that about?
#470 [12:26] <Ji> Can someone help me please?
#471 [12:26] <tyteen4a03> Ji: We have told you that we do NOT support Hamachi
#472 [12:26] <Ji> And i didn't listen
#473 [12:26] <Ji> So help me
#474 [12:26] <tyteen4a03> We can however help you with port forwarding
#475 [12:26] <xales> ??> Ji attitude
#476 [12:26] <VoxelHead> Ji: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#477 [12:26] <VoxelHead> Ji: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#478 [12:26] <EyesIsMine> Ji, nuke hamachi or gtfo
#479 [12:26] <Ji> It's not my server
#480 [12:26] <Ji> My friend has a server running
#481 [12:26] <EyesIsMine> either way
#482 [12:26] <Ji> he can't port forward on his server
#483 [12:26] <tyteen4a03> Ji: Can you get your friend here?
#484 [12:27] <Ji> And so he has to use hamachi
#485 [12:27] <EyesIsMine> he can port forward
#486 [12:27] <Ji> Not on his router
#487 [12:27] <Ji> His router doesn't allow for it
#488 [12:27] <xales> Ji: There is absolutely no circumstance where "has to use Hamachi" exists.
#489 [12:27] <EyesIsMine> every router can
#490 [12:27] <EyesIsMine> and if he can't
#491 [12:27] <EyesIsMine> reset the router
#492 [12:27] <Ji> Oh my god
#493 [12:27] <Ji> You're all just trolls
#494 [12:27] <Ji> Screw you
#495 [12:27] <tyteen4a03> EyesIsMine: parent?
#496 [12:27] * xales kicked Ji from #minecrafthelp (Reason: i :Have a nice day! Enjoy not getting help.)
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#498 [12:28] <EyesIsMine> tyteen4a03, if he has parents he shouldn't be hosting a mc server from his home connection
#499 [12:28] <Ji> Lawl
#500 [12:28] <magictj> anyone could help
#501 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> EyesIsMine: some parents are just paranoid about kids screwing up the internet, I'd suggest talking to his parents about it before resetting the router
#502 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> Ji - You got your answer. If you don't care for it, you can find help elsewhere. Try google. This channel will not help with Hamachi connectivity in any way.
#503 [12:29] <EyesIsMine> GreyVulpine++
#504 [12:29] <Ji> You're all bloody useless >_>
#505 [12:29] <EyesIsMine> so are you.
#506 [12:29] * xales kicked Ji from #minecrafthelp (Reason: i :And *here* is the door.)
#507 [12:30] <Hontong> java removed and reinstalled and he doest work.. i dont understand this.. ^^
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#510 [12:32] <Ji> Right
#511 [12:32] <Ji> Can you help me with portforwarding then?
#512 [12:32] <tyteen4a03> Ji: As you mentioned, the server is hosted by your friend, maybe you could get him here?
#513 [12:33] <EyesIsMine> do that
#514 [12:33] <Ji> No :(
#515 [12:33] <Ji> He's convinced it's not possible
#516 [12:33] <EyesIsMine> slap him.
#517 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> EyesIsMine: lol
#518 [12:33] <Ji> Sorry for raging at you BTW
#519 [12:33] <Ji> I'm just pissed that this isn't working
#520 [12:33] <Ji> It usually works after a few treis
#521 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> Ji: we all have our times
#522 [12:33] <Ji> (troes
#523 [12:33] <Ji> **Tries
#524 [12:33] <Ji> Goddammit
#525 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> Ji: Port forwarding requires you to know the model of that router, and you must be working on his computer in order to do it
#526 [12:34] <Hontong> minecraft stuck again on loggin in
#527 [12:34] <EyesIsMine> Hontong, is java in your path
#528 [12:34] <Ji> IK apparently he needs to be connected to the phone line or something
#529 [12:34] <EyesIsMine> is he on dial-up
#530 [12:34] <Ji> Nope
#531 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> ADSL?
#532 [12:35] <Ji> Normal broadband
#533 [12:35] <EyesIsMine> hah
#534 [12:35] <xales> ._.
#535 [12:35] <tyteen4a03> Ji: anyways, call your friend and ask him the model of his router, then go to his house and come back here
#536 [12:35] <EyesIsMine> put a speedtest on him
#537 [12:35] <EyesIsMine> and tell him to post it
#538 [12:35] <Ji> He lives in Wales :3
#539 [12:35] <Ji> I live in England
#540 [12:35] <EyesIsMine> I live in England.
#541 [12:35] <tyteen4a03> EyesIsMine: you should not expect good results then :P
#542 [12:35] <EyesIsMine> :3 is an ass smiley.
#543 [12:35] <tyteen4a03> nope
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#545 [12:36] <tyteen4a03> Ji: so... a friend over the net?
#546 [12:36] <xales> tyteen4a03: <3 is however.
#547 [12:36] <Ji> Aye
#548 [12:36] <xales> ._.
#549 [12:36] <xales> tyteen4a03: I'm not even joking about that!
#550 [12:36] <tyteen4a03> xales: <3
#551 [12:37] <xales> tyteen4a03: Do you know the origin of the heart symbol?
#552 [12:37] <tyteen4a03> Ji: still, try to ask your friend his model of the router
#553 [12:37] <tyteen4a03> xales: not really
#554 [12:37] <Hontong> i think so EyesIsMine.. but i do the same where i get my computer.. download mc download jave, intsall java and run mc and it works.. but not jet..
#555 [12:37] <EyesIsMine> java -cp Minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFramework
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#557 [12:38] <night98> help my mc server cant update
#558 [12:38] <EyesIsMine> download the latest server
#559 [12:39] <Ji> tyteen4a03: His router doesn't say
#560 [12:39] <night98> it cant find the update server
#561 [12:39] <xales> night98: There *is* no automatic updates for the server.
#562 [12:39] <tyteen4a03> Ji: Are you implying that he can access the router control panel?
#563 [12:39] <Ji> Yep
#564 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> Ji: can you ask him to take a screenshot of his router control panel and upload it to http://imgur.com
#565 [12:40] <xales> tyteen4a03: In before modem which is not performing NAT.
#566 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> xales: oh right, adsl...
#567 [12:41] <tyteen4a03> xales: I guess I must google this one
#568 [12:41] <xales> tyteen4a03: It will be quite obvious if it is a modem without NAT capabilities.
#569 [12:42] <tyteen4a03> xales: like the old ones without an web interface or something? (I had one)
#570 [12:42] <xales> Err, no.
#571 [12:42] <Ji> He says he can't be arsed
#572 [12:42] <EyesIsMine> then he doesn't deserve to run a server
#573 [12:43] <tyteen4a03> Ji: if he can't be arsed, there's no way we can really help
#574 [12:43] <Ji> Fuck hamachi, basically
#575 [12:43] * AuBot kicked Ji from #minecrafthelp (Reason: i :Please keep it civil.)
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#577 [12:43] <Ji> Port forwarding is awful
#578 [12:43] <EyesIsMine> Yeah, and screw you then.
#579 [12:43] <Ji> Godawful
#580 [12:43] <EyesIsMine> So are you.
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#583 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> >tried to explain ADSL
#584 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> >left before I could post
#585 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> oh well
#586 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> I suck :<
#587 [12:44] <xales> not really.
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#592 [12:52] <Hontong> mh the minecraft god dont like me.. lol. i give jave the path, make an restart and start Minecraft - black screen - ok second try - oh the same problem that i write bevore.. 30sec wait and stuck an "logging in" mh
#593 [12:52] <Hontong> thats magic.. ^^
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#604 [13:35] <Thafnine> My Minecraft keeps saying Fatal Error occured: Null. I run Windows XP, with Intel Atom Inside! Please help!!!!
#605 [13:36] <Thafnine> i HAVE GOT JAVARA 1.16
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#609 [13:51] <NinjaKirby> Hi folks, can anyone advice me which Logic Circuit to be looking for on the MC Wiki for a Timer?
#610 [13:51] <NinjaKirby> Oh wow, *Advise
#611 [13:52] <Morrolan> A timer as in something which outputs every few seconds?
#612 [13:53] <NinjaKirby> Ah, sorry, I was seeking say a 10-20 second countdown, before the output is deactivated again
#613 [13:53] <NinjaKirby> For example, I'm going for a temporary staircase with Pistons
#614 [13:53] <Morrolan> Ah, I see. ONe way would be a clock + T-flip-flop
#615 [13:54] <Morrolan> You might also need a few and gates, depending on what you want to do it.
#616 [13:54] <NinjaKirby> Right, sorry, I just called for dinners, awkward timing, I'll check them out when I get back, thanks man!
#617 [13:54] <Morrolan> Basically just activate the T flip flop so it outputs true, start the clock, and when the clock has completed one cycle it'll turn off the T-flip-flop again.
#618 [13:56] <Morrolan> Another approach would be to simply lengthen the duration the signal is active by using several redstone lines, one delivering the signal instantly, the second one delayed by a second and so forth until you've reached the duration you want.
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#620 [13:56] <Morrolan> That's kind of an ugly way in my opinion, but it'd work. :)
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#624 [14:07] <CEO> hai
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#626 [14:16] <NinjaKirby> Ahhh, Ginsters ftw, tastey tastey
#627 [14:16] <NinjaKirby> Now, time for frustration and fury over this impending work
#628 [14:16] <NinjaKirby> Now, time for frustration and fury over this impending work
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#630 [14:18] <NinjaKirby> Morrolan: Aye, I've used the extended repeater method for a timed TNT thing, it took like 3 small floors of connected repeaters -_-
#631 [14:18] <NinjaKirby> I'll roll with something more sophisticated this time
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#634 [14:29] <Morrolan> NinjaKirby - Heh, I can imagine this eating up some space. I guess the clock+toggle is a better approach in your case. :)
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#636 [14:42] <NinjaKirby> Okay, this isn't as obvious as I first expected. I've actually built a Clock Generator before, but I don't understand it's incorporation to the Toggle. Time to YouTube it me thinkies.
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#639 [14:57] <NinjaKirby> lol, Morrolan, I ended up doing it the ugle way, but it only takes like 8-10 repeaters and a simple Memory Cell, many thanks :)
#640 [14:57] <NinjaKirby> *Ugly way, damnit, still, it's compact enough
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#643 [15:20] <Morrolan> Good to hear that you've got it working, one way or another.
#644 [15:21] <Morrolan> What I did mean was that you could have first activated the toggle so it outputs a current. At the same time you could have activated the clock. After the clock had then completed one cycle it would have activated the toggle yet again, making it not output any current anymore.
#645 [15:26] <NinjaKirby> Hmm... would the length of time on the Clock be dependant on it's size as well?
#646 [15:26] <Morrolan> Yea, the longer you want a cycle to be the bigger the clock will be.
#647 [15:27] <Morrolan> Twenty seconds might take up some space, come to think of it.
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#649 [15:27] <NinjaKirby> Ah, there isn't a "555 timer" block, so I guess anything dependant on length of time is bound the get bigger?
#650 [15:27] <Morrolan> So it'd be easier to work with a lower clock cylce but not make the T flip flop toggle on the first current it receives from the clock. Have to admin that now we're reaching a level of complexity where I would have to play around though.
#651 [15:27] <Morrolan> Yea.
#652 [15:28] <Morrolan> admit*
#653 [15:28] <NinjaKirby> ^^;; At least I got something working, in fact the ability to just flick the Repeaters to different speeds is great for fine tuning.
#654 [15:29] <NinjaKirby> Pushing it to the edge of the player speed up the stairs, hehe
#655 [15:29] <Morrolan> Yea, that's a nice feature indeed. :)
#656 [15:30] <NinjaKirby> If I can ask, if it isn't trouble, have you made any adventure/puzzle maps?
#657 [15:35] <Morrolan> I have not.
#658 [15:36] <NinjaKirby> Ah, tis cool :)
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#663 [15:54] <sugoi> void foo(int n)
#664 [15:54] <sugoi> { std::cout << "foo(int)\n";
#665 [15:54] <sugoi> }
#666 [15:54] <sugoi> AH - sorry
#667 [15:54] <sugoi> right click mistake in putty window
#668 [15:55] * sugoi hides in shame
#668 [15:55] * sugoi puts something far more interesting into his clipboard while he's at it
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#669 [15:59] <stonergirlxo> ..??
#670 [15:59] <stonergirlxo> ..??
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#674 [16:03] <bobwafflemoo> er any help my mineraft wont work...
#675 [16:03] <Morrolan> Be more specific
#676 [16:05] <bobwafflemoo> well i was useing alpha and naw minecraft just wont work.
#677 [16:08] <bobwafflemoo> ....any help?
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#679 [16:12] <bobwafflemoo> can some on help my minecraft is not working...
#680 [16:13] <Boreeas> bobwafflemoo: More info please
#681 [16:13] <Boreeas> Do you get any error? What exactly doesn't work?
#682 [16:14] <bobwafflemoo> i was playing alpha and it crashed now my minecraft wont work
#683 [16:15] <Boreeas> bobwafflemoo: Alpha, you mean the free classic version?
#684 [16:15] <bobwafflemoo> nope alpha
#685 [16:15] <Boreeas> You know Minecraft already moved out of beta, right? You might want to update
#686 [16:16] <bobwafflemoo> i know i play 1.10 allso...
#687 [16:16] <Boreeas> That's not alpha
#688 [16:17] <Boreeas> Alpha was the version /before/ beta
#689 [16:17] <Boreeas> Anyways, no error? No crash screen?
#690 [16:17] <bobwafflemoo> no it just closed and no more minecraft
#691 [16:19] <bobwafflemoo> i cant use 1.10 alpha or even the web borawser game (sry if thares bad spelling)
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#693 [16:20] <Boreeas> Is there a file called "hs_err_pid<somenumber>" in the same folder as your launcher?
#694 [16:20] <bobwafflemoo> let me see
#695 [16:21] <bobwafflemoo> yes thare is
#696 [16:21] <Boreeas> Alright, can you copy the contents to http://pastebin.com?
#697 [16:23] <bobwafflemoo> ok now what?
#698 [16:24] <bobwafflemoo> what do i do now that i did?
#699 [16:25] <EyesIsMine> copy the link to t here
#700 [16:26] <bobwafflemoo> http://pastebin.com/XuxjyJV4
#701 [16:27] <Boreeas> Ouch
#702 [16:27] <Boreeas> ??> bobwafflemoo win/javara
#703 [16:27] <VoxelHead> bobwafflemoo: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#704 [16:27] <VoxelHead> bobwafflemoo: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#705 [16:28] <Boreeas> You probably have to completely reinstall Java, sorry
#706 [16:28] <bobwafflemoo> um.......
#707 [16:28] <Boreeas> Install JavaRa, remove all java installations on your computer, then download the latest version at http://java.com
#708 [16:29] <bobwafflemoo> ....i dont think i know haw to do that...
#709 [16:29] <Boreeas> Do you have anyone around you who knows how to do it?
#710 [16:30] <bobwafflemoo> no unless my cat can...
#711 [16:30] <Boreeas> Hmm
#712 [16:32] <bobwafflemoo> so is thare any other way?
#713 [16:32] <Boreeas> ??> bobwafflemoo teamviewer
#714 [16:32] <VoxelHead> bobwafflemoo: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#715 [16:32] <VoxelHead> bobwafflemoo: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#716 [16:33] <bobwafflemoo> and if i use that what will hapen?
#717 [16:34] <Boreeas> You will be presented with a screen containing a user-id and a 4-digit password that is changing every time you start the program. As long as teamviwer is running, and you tell a person your userid and current password, that person will be able to connect to your computer and help you
#718 [16:35] <Boreeas> And in case you worry, it is completely safe, as the connection will be closed the instant your shut down teamviewer
#719 [16:35] <bobwafflemoo> but who would help?
#720 [16:36] <sugoi> Boreeas would
#721 [16:36] <Boreeas> I would, in this case
#722 [16:36] <sugoi> bobwafflemoo: but just give him your code, not this whole channel
#723 [16:36] <bobwafflemoo> ok
#724 [16:37] <bobwafflemoo> haw?
#725 [16:37] <Boreeas> Tell me when you have it installed, then /msg Boreeas UID; xxx-yyy-zzz Pass: abcd
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#727 [16:38] <bobwafflemoo> do i have to install it or run it?
#728 [16:38] <Boreeas> Run it
#729 [16:39] <bobwafflemoo> what do i tipe to tell you it?
#730 [16:39] <EyesIsMine> oh god
#731 [16:39] * EyesIsMine cringes
#731 [16:39] <bobwafflemoo> oh i see
#732 [16:40] <sugoi> bobwafflemoo: use the command [here], /msg Boreeas [type your message here]
#733 [16:42] <bobwafflemoo> did i do it?
#734 [16:43] <Boreeas> I didn't get anythign
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#736 [16:44] <bobwafflemoo> hmmm
#737 [16:44] <Boreeas> Try /query Boreeas Hi
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#739 [16:50] <sugoi> Boreeas: note the lurkers check from time to time for reports of the final outcome :)
#740 [16:51] <Boreeas> Still trying to open a private chat with him
#741 [16:52] <Boreeas> What's with Mibbit and Private Chat anyways? When I was still using it, I never had problems with it
#742 [16:54] <sugoi> bleh, i was going to test it for you from here
#743 [16:54] <sugoi> but "I" am ssh'd here, and from HERE i am on a proxy, and apparently am blocked
#744 [16:54] <sugoi> so i'd have to tunnel to a browser to use mibbit to get .. here
#745 [16:54] <sugoi> haha, if that's not confusing enough
#746 [16:54] <bobwafflemoo> iv been saying things.....
#747 [16:55] <Boreeas> Mhm, I just don't receive anything
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#749 [16:55] <Boreeas> Alright, let's try this, join this channel: ##tempchan
#750 [16:56] <bobwafflemoo> ok
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#753 [17:04] <sluggo> FREE MineCraft Premium Membership, go here http://quickprize.info/?ref=532
#754 [17:04] <sluggo> FREE MineCraft Premium Membership, go here http://quickprize.info/?ref=532
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#757 [17:07] <Pacha-AWAY> Somebody needs to stop sluggo, he's spammed about 7 other channels.
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#759 [17:11] <Morrolan> Pacha-AWAY - If what he does might be considered spamming then you could report him to #dragonweyr . Mind you however that most of the opers aren't too fond of MInecraft, so chances are you'll just get a "This is not spamming" as a response. *shrug*
#760 [17:11] <Morrolan> Either way, he's banned from atleast this channel now. ;)
#761 [17:12] <sugoi> i wonder if he gets comissions, or just personal jackass points
#762 [17:12] <Wug> the second one
#763 [17:13] <sugoi> :)
#764 [17:13] <Morrolan> Well, no matter what sorts of points, it's points, now isn't it. :)
#765 [17:13] <sugoi> hehe
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#767 [17:13] <Itsanact> Requesting that someone help me connect to a server by using Teamviewer
#768 [17:14] <sugoi> Itsanact: it might be easier than you think
#769 [17:14] <sugoi> Itsanact: do you have the server address you want to connect to?
#770 [17:14] <Itsanact> You'd think, wouldn't you?
#771 [17:14] <sugoi> :)
#772 [17:14] <Itsanact> I have the server address, I can connect to every server other than this one
#773 [17:14] <sugoi> ok
#774 [17:14] <sugoi> what error do you get?
#775 [17:15] <sugoi> or, what happens when you try
#776 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> what is the server address?
#777 [17:15] <Itsanact> Connection refused: Connect
#778 [17:15] <Itsanact> It's a Hamachi address
#779 [17:15] <Itsanact> Even though I'm connected to his Hamachi
#780 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> ??> Itsanact fubar/hamachi
#781 [17:15] <VoxelHead> Itsanact: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#782 [17:15] <VoxelHead> Itsanact: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#783 [17:15] <Itsanact> Oh
#784 [17:16] <Itsanact> Well that's wonderful
#785 [17:16] <sugoi> Itsanact: port forward is really not hard
#786 [17:16] <sugoi> Itsanact: sorry...i didn't mean to make that the ponit
#787 [17:16] <Itsanact> ^ It is when your friend isn't connected through the phone jack :P
#788 [17:16] <sugoi> Itsanact: what i meant to say, is port forwarding an option for you guys?
#789 [17:16] <Itsanact> It's not, the guy who's hosting has to connect to his phone jack which he can't do
#790 [17:16] <Wug> Itsanact: its not about hamachi is it
#791 [17:16] <Itsanact> It is..
#792 [17:16] <Itsanact> I'm guessing I should move this to PM
#793 [17:16] <Wug> because last time you were here
#794 [17:17] <Wug> you were not very polite
#795 [17:17] <sugoi> zing!
#796 [17:17] <Itsanact> o.O
#797 [17:17] <Itsanact> I've never been here before
#798 [17:17] <Wug> -WugBot/+#minecrafthelp- Itsanact (cpc6-slam5-2-0-cust260.2-4.cable.virginmedia.com) was last in this channel as 'Ji' [4 hours, 29 minutes, 52 seconds ago]
#799 [17:17] <Itsanact> Who the hell is Ji?
#800 [17:17] <Itsanact> D:
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#802 [17:17] <sugoi> oh snap
#803 [17:17] <Wug> probably your brother
#804 [17:17] <Wug> he was having issues with hamachi too
#805 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> or your "brother".
#806 [17:18] <sugoi> wait wait, let me get some popcorn
#807 [17:18] <Itsanact> Apparently I have a brother
#808 [17:18] <Itsanact> :3
#809 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> in short: someone else using the same internet connection you're on now.
#810 [17:18] <Itsanact> Apparently so :3
#811 [17:18] <Wug> who just happened to come here
#812 [17:18] <Wug> with the same problem you were having
#813 [17:18] <Wug> Don't be rude to helpers again, or we'll send you on vacation
#814 [17:19] * sugoi needs a vacation
#814 [17:19] <Itsanact> *isn't being rude*
#815 [17:19] <Wug> this is a warning.
#816 [17:19] <Itsanact> Safe
#817 [17:19] <Boreeas> ;kick sugoi Requested
#818 [17:19] * WugBot kicked sugoi from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ugoi :Requested)
#819 [17:19] <Itsanact> So you guys are unable to help me?
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#821 [17:19] <sugoi> har har
#822 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> Back on topic: We don't have any interest in Hamachi, because it is inherently broken
#823 [17:19] <Itsanact> *inherently sh*tty and f*cked up
#824 [17:20] <sugoi> Itsanact: i don't understand why port forwarding isn't an option
#825 [17:20] <Itsanact> If it were up to me I wouldn't have it installed :3
#826 [17:20] <Wug> we could show you how to forward ports
#827 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> Also that, which is why we don't support it.
#828 [17:20] <Itsanact> I don't think you understand :3
#829 [17:20] <Itsanact> I don't think *I* understand
#830 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> I have another question though:
#831 [17:20] <Itsanact> My friend said he needed to plug his computer directly into the phone jack if he wants to configure ports
#832 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> your internet connection is through the phone jack-- does that mean you are using DSL, or dual-up?
#833 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> er, dial-up?
#834 [17:21] <sugoi> i see where this is going
#835 [17:21] <Itsanact> It's not my server, but I'm guessing it's broadband
#836 [17:21] <Itsanact> He can download things fast enough
#837 [17:21] <sugoi> then dsl
#838 [17:21] <sugoi> he need not conncet directly
#839 [17:21] <sugoi> connect*- but configure the router/modem that _is_ connected
#840 [17:22] <sugoi> have him join here, perhaps we can help
#841 [17:22] <Itsanact> I'm here because he's lazy :3
#842 [17:22] <Itsanact> He isn't really bothered if it gets fixed
#843 [17:22] <Itsanact> ANd other people can connect to the server
#844 [17:22] <sugoi> then you'll need to have access to his modem
#845 [17:22] <Itsanact> just not me
#846 [17:22] <Itsanact> K hax tiem
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#848 [17:23] <Itsanact> Wnd R cmd.exe access domain 192.168.2.1 ololol torolololol hamachisux.15
#849 [17:23] <INeedHelp1> How can I delete my minecraft.net account?
#850 [17:23] <Morrolan> INeedHelp1 - Currently you can not.
#851 [17:23] <INeedHelp1> Can someone please delete it for me?
#852 [17:23] <Boreeas> INeedHelp1: Why would you want to? :O
#853 [17:23] <Morrolan> INeedHelp1 - None here works for Mojang, and Mojang doesn't offer that service anyway, so nope.
#854 [17:23] <Boreeas> INeedHelp1: Sorry, we can't help you with accounts, sorry
#855 [17:24] <Itsanact> Give me the username and password
#856 [17:24] <Itsanact> I'll take it off your hands
#857 [17:24] <Itsanact> :3
#858 [17:24] <INeedHelp1> There's no way I can get my account deleted, at all?
#859 [17:24] <Morrolan> Not currently, no.
#860 [17:24] <Wug> why do you need it deleted
#861 [17:24] <Itsanact> I can take it off your hands :3
#862 [17:24] <Wug> Itsanact: ಠ_ಠ
#863 [17:24] <INeedHelp1> Will this be implemented soon?
#864 [17:24] <Morrolan> Itsanact - You've got some strange definitions of "deleting" and "hacking" btw.
#865 [17:24] <Boreeas> ;kick Itsanact Don't
#866 [17:24] * WugBot kicked Itsanact from #minecrafthelp (Reason: tsanact :Don't)
#867 [17:24] <sugoi> Itsanact: chil
#868 [17:24] <sugoi> :/
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#870 [17:24] <Itsanact> Sorry :3
#871 [17:24] <Wug> INeedHelp1: Why do you want to delete it
#872 [17:25] <INeedHelp1> I don't need it
#873 [17:25] <Wug> can you just keep it for later?
#874 [17:25] <INeedHelp1> I don't need it
#875 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> so don't use it, and pretent it no longer exists.
#876 [17:25] <INeedHelp1> Lol?
#877 [17:25] <Itsanact> Email notch. Oh wait, he's a useless c*nt
#878 [17:25] * Morrolan hands DopeGhoti a d, taking away a t in return.
#878 [17:25] <INeedHelp1> That's not what I want to do. I want it genuinely gone
#879 [17:26] <Morrolan> Itsanact - While I am not too fond of Notch either - keep it nice pelase.
#880 [17:26] <Morrolan> please*
#881 [17:26] * DopeGhoti thanks Morrolan for his consonant assistance.
#881 [17:26] <Itsanact> Sorryyy
#882 [17:26] <Itsanact> But he is a right knob
#883 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> don't be sorry; be civil.
#884 [17:26] <Wug> ^
#885 [17:26] <Boreeas> INeedHelp1: As we said, nothing we (or mojang) can do, really, sorry
#886 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> ad hominem in absentia attacks: not civil
#887 [17:26] <INeedHelp1> Kay.
#888 [17:26] <INeedHelp1> Kay.
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#890 [17:27] <Itsanact> Going back to my H*machi issue, before I leave, would restarting my router possibly help?
#891 [17:27] <sugoi> Itsanact: you're a lot like your brother
#892 [17:27] <Itsanact> I don't have a brother
#893 [17:27] <sugoi> Itsanact: if restarting your server removes hamachi, then yes
#894 [17:27] <sugoi> s/server/router/
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#896 [17:40] <sugoi> would it help any to require an internet driver's licence?
#897 [17:42] <clarjon1> lol
#898 [17:50] <sugoi> fun segway to quote in part from goya, the anonymity of the internet causes the sleep of reason and brings forth monsters
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#917 [19:17] <Dusty> Anyone here available to helps? D:
#918 [19:19] <|Kiikun|> possibly?
#919 [19:19] * |Kiikun| just sat down
#919 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> empathic help is the simplest help.
#920 [19:36] <|Kiikun|> indeed.
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#922 [19:56] <corinanth> does anyone know how to place a trap door right next to a furnace or crafting table
#923 [19:56] <corinanth> i tried using a second block next to the furnace but every time you break it the door pops too
#924 [19:56] <corinanth> is there a button that temporarily disables block gui;s
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#927 [19:58] <jessicaishere> ok when i log in nd go on a world its like the world is like jumping up and down how do i fix this
#928 [19:58] <jessicaishere> ?
#929 [19:58] <jessicaishere> ......
#930 [19:59] <jessicaishere> ummmm
#931 [19:59] <oldtopman> jessicaishere: Wait a while.
#932 [19:59] <jessicaishere> okkk
#933 [19:59] <|Kiikun|> corinanth: i think a piston might help
#934 [19:59] <oldtopman> That happens when the world loads, it might a take a short amount of time.
#935 [20:00] <jessicaishere> ok
#936 [20:00] <|Kiikun|> corinanth: you want to place the trapdoor so its connected to the furnace/table right?
#937 [20:00] <|Kiikun|> jessicaishere: you spawn on a boat in smp? i tend to have that issue in smp ^^;
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#939 [20:03] <jessicaishere> kk
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#941 [20:05] <sup> i no this isnt like part of this but im asking everywear that involves minecraft this do you no any good adventure maps???
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#943 [20:07] <madbro> how do you force update?
#944 [20:09] <|Kiikun|> :fu
#945 [20:09] <WugBot> fu: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#946 [20:09] <WugBot> fu: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#947 [20:09] <madbro> okk thx
#948 [20:10] <Dusty> Having a server issue. Could I post the link here to have you guys take a crack at it?
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#950 [20:10] <imaaperson> whitney is dead!!!
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#952 [20:11] <|Kiikun|> ilikewolves: ~.~
#953 [20:12] <Dusty> I guess that won't be a problem :S
#954 [20:12] <Dusty> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1030012-server-running-while-not-running/page__gopid__12828890#entry12828890
#955 [20:12] <ilikewolves> im ust here to watch the convo
#956 [20:12] <Dusty> Really really has me stuck! :P
#957 [20:12] <|Kiikun|> ilikewolves: yes.. after you just yelled about whitney being dead... like that isnt old news.
#958 [20:12] <ilikewolves> ?
#959 [20:13] <ilikewolves> i didnt say anything about whitney
#960 [20:13] <ilikewolves> who is whitney?
#961 [20:13] <Dusty> A dead person.
#962 [20:14] <|Kiikun|> ilikewolves: you did as imaaperson... just saying as a trolling, it was a failure.
#963 [20:14] * VoxelHead kicked ilikewolves from #minecrafthelp (Reason: likewolves :Banned: Rule 2 violation.)
#964 [20:14] <VoxelHead> Three hours, by the way.
#965 [20:15] * |Kiikun| shrugs
#965 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> Dusty: Please state the nature of the Minecraft emergency.
#966 [20:18] <Dusty> I posted a link, DopeGhoti.
#967 [20:18] <Dusty> Asked if peepz could take a look.
#968 [20:19] <Dusty> I'm having a herpderp moment with my server lol
#969 [20:20] <Dusty> Thanks by the way.
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#971 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> Dusty: okay, step one: `sudo killall -9 java`; then try starting MC again.
#972 [20:25] <quibbit> Having a problem I bought a copy of minecraft for myself today and when I went to my daughters house to buy it for her.. it said I couldn't do it with my credit card too many transactions in 1 day have to wait 48h.. what can I do about this???
#973 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> if that works, then it was still runnning, or _some_ Java proccess was bound to the MC TCP port
#974 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> quibbit: other than wait 48 hours? Maybe use PayPal or another credit card?
#975 [20:26] <quibbit> i don't have another credit card.. I will wait 48 hours I guess and if that don't work..
#976 [20:26] <|Kiikun|> quibbit: you can pick the paypal option and then use the card to pay with through paypal
#977 [20:26] <quibbit> ok
#978 [20:28] <Dusty> DopeGhoti: Didn't work.
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#980 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> Dusty: pastebin the output of `sudo netstat -plnt` please.
#981 [20:35] <Dusty> mc2 is not in the sudoers file.
#982 [20:35] <Dusty> Which is the directory.
#983 [20:35] <Dusty> Basically don't have any sudo permission.
#984 [20:36] <zkxs> try `killall -9 java`;
#985 [20:38] <Dusty> "Operation not permitted"
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#987 [20:40] <Dusty> I might rip my hair out by the end of the night :(
#988 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> Dusty: pastebin the output of `netstat -plnt` please.
#989 [20:40] <|Kiikun|> Dusty: get the admin on?
#990 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> (without sudo it'll have less info, but still enough, usually)
#991 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> also: I am about to head home from work, so make it snappy (:
#992 [20:42] <Dusty> Here you are. http://pastebin.com/wAq0Ty9K
#993 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> tcp 0 0 188.138.106.126:25565 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN -
#994 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> Someone else on that system is already running Minecraft on port 25565.
#995 [20:43] <|Kiikun|> something derped and still has the port open :P
#996 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> not 'something'; 'someone else on the server'
#997 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> if it were mc2's process, the netstat output would have the PID and binary name
#998 [20:44] <Dusty> Yeah. I've been trying to see if I could get it shutdown somehow.
#999 [20:44] <Dusty> With a command or something because when I type in the command "stop" it gives me this exception error.
#1000 [20:45] <Dusty> http://pastebin.com/inYJiqeH
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#1002 [20:46] <DopeGhoti> Dusty: that's exactly what you'll see when starting the server unless you pick a new port, until the other user on the system shuts down their Minecraft server.
#1003 [20:48] <Dusty> If I were to forward it to a new port. Same IP still applies, right?
#1004 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> yep
#1005 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> just open your server.properties file and pick a new port, IIRC
#1006 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> yep, just mogivy the server-port line
#1007 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> ciao!
#1008 [20:54] <Dusty> Bye and thanks for the help!
#1009 [21:00] <Dusty> By the way.
#1010 [21:00] <Dusty> Which port should I pick, guys? D:
#1011 [21:00] <langkid1> 25565
#1012 [21:00] <langkid1> unless it's taken
#1013 [21:01] <langkid1> 25565 is the default for MC, use any other port and you have to append :<port> to the end of every IP/host you use in SMP
#1014 [21:01] * langkid1 is saying this to Dusty
#1014 [21:01] <Dusty> Ah. I see.
#1015 [21:02] <Dusty> 188.138.104.178:11378
#1016 [21:02] <Dusty> That's what it would be?
#1017 [21:02] <Dusty> There wouldn't be any issues with ports?
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#1020 [21:17] <Vim0> Hi there
#1021 [21:17] <Vim0> ive got a question, i have multivers and want to change the gamemode when i go from one world in an other, does anyone know how i do this?
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#1023 [21:21] <TheNoodle> ??> Vim0 mods
#1024 [21:21] <VoxelHead> Vim0: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#1025 [21:21] <VoxelHead> Vim0: (mods) as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
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#1027 [21:22] <Vim0> thank you ;-)
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#1034 [22:15] * |Kiikun| stabs Pacha-iPod
#1034 [22:16] <Pacha-iPod> D:
#1035 [22:16] * Pacha-iPod suffers from blood loss.
#1035 [22:17] <|Kiikun|> you have too many nicks. :P
#1036 [22:18] <Pacha-iPod> Pacha and Pacha-iPod
#1037 [22:18] <Pacha-iPod> That's it.
#1038 [22:18] <zkxs> Pacha-iPod2, Pacha-AWAY
#1039 [22:18] <Pacha-iPod> Huh, oh yea.
#1040 [22:18] <Pacha-iPod> My 2nd iPod.
#1041 [22:19] <|Kiikun|> yes... added them all to the list so they wont trigger the bot anymore :P
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#1043 [22:22] <Pacha-iPod> Sorry i have so many nicks :(
#1044 [22:22] <|Kiikun|> itsok :P
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#1051 [23:11] <lilginachu> Hi i'm trying to purchase Minecraft, won't accept my card - help?
#1052 [23:11] <SylveRstynE> how do i get to the nether region
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#1054 [23:14] <langkid1> lilginachu, sorry we can't help with account issues
#1055 [23:15] <lilginachu> dang it I was directed here :/
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