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#5 [00:42] <megadud> Im running a server on the latest snapshot version. all of a sudden its got "0+0" threads, and the tick just rapidly increases... What do I do?
#6 [00:43] <lemon-rev> i think stop and try resetting the server
#7 [00:43] <megadud> i did that several times... after like three seconds, itll be at 300+ms ticks
#8 [00:44] <lemon-rev> trouble is there is no fix for pre release things like that so you can only go back to something that doesnt have that trouble
#9 [00:45] <megadud> can i? the world got updated to the new 256 high versions...
#10 [00:46] <lemon-rev> if you goto minecraftfourm.com < or what ever minecraft fourms is use google and it will tell you, you need to rename a data track back
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#12 [00:57] <|Kiikun|> lemon-rev: the mcregion format isnt deleted... just need to delete the anvil-formatted level.dat and rename the level.dat_mcr back
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#20 [01:21] <lemon-rev> well i knew you had to do something kinda simple :)
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#47 [04:46] <Guest> does anyone know how to solve java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out issues
#48 [04:46] <Guest> it makes it really hard to run a server
#49 [04:46] <Guest> i have a fairly powerful personal server with a fast lan connection
#50 [04:46] <GreyVulpine> Eihter a firewall problem, a network connectivity issue, or a corrupt player.dat in /world/players
#51 [04:46] <GreyVulpine> Fast LAN means nothing if the WAN servicing it is a satellite with a 500ms ping
#52 [04:47] <Guest> well so starting with the player.dat file
#53 [04:47] <Guest> should i just try deleting them?
#54 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> Delete or move them, sure.
#55 [04:49] <Guest> ok i'll try that
#56 [04:49] <Guest> i assume it's that or maybe firewall
#57 [04:49] <seddy> or that wan services get sent modifed packets
#58 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> Also a possibility, various mods have also been known to cause this
#59 [04:50] <Guest> the server is running ubuntu
#60 [04:50] <Guest> their ufw firewall is disabled by default so not sure if it's that
#61 [04:50] <Guest> im not running any mods. completely vanilla
#62 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> Firewall is enabled by default on ubuntu, but it lets through all traffic.
#63 [04:50] <seddy> minefract servers can be singly dos by a modifed udp packet
#64 [04:51] <seddy> not 0day but mabye 24da
#65 [04:51] <seddy> also catacylsm ssyn
#66 [04:51] <seddy> and slowaris HTTP on host sites
#67 [04:52] <seddy> didnt mean slowairs
#68 [04:52] <seddy> slowhttp
#69 [04:54] <Guest> so what would be your suggestion for trying to get rid of that read timed out error
#70 [04:55] <seddy> read time error is a number of things
#71 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> Try clearing/moving players out of the world's folder. See if that clears it up, usually does if it only affects one person
#72 [04:55] <seddy> aka packects getting fucked
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#75 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> Try a new world, usually clears it up if there's a portion of the world corrupt that'll do it
#76 [04:55] <seddy> that gets me mad
#77 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't do it, check your firewall/network connectivity
#78 [04:56] <Guest> GreyVulpine: will do. i moved them out for now to a different folder.
#79 [04:56] <Guest> thanks
#80 [04:56] <seddy> grey isa bot with no love to peon helpers
#81 [04:56] <seddy> ;)
#82 [04:57] <Guest> aren't you all? :)
#83 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> We're all unloved pawns of Mojang
#84 [04:57] <seddy> says the op
#85 [04:57] <seddy> <-- says the peon
#86 [04:57] <Guest> hehe ya im watching their stream now
#87 [04:58] <Guest> super laggy though
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#89 [04:59] <rockon1m1> hello, I am trying to monetize youtube videos but I cannot download or link the terms and conditions of Mojang (since you can only open it with an account)
#90 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Try getting in contact with mojang through help.mojang.com
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#92 [05:03] <rockon1m1> in help.mojang.com they don't provide email or help, its just a bunch of articles
#93 [05:05] <rockon1m1> can anybody help about that? there doesn't seem to be a link or a download document of the terms and conditions
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#95 [05:11] <rockon1m1> found it
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#100 [05:31] * GreyVulpine prods Grim_Reaper
#100 [05:31] <Grim_Reaper> <3 GreyVulpine
#101 [05:31] <Grim_Reaper> Could you halp meh D:
#102 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> I'm still a little rusty from my MSCE days, but..
#103 [05:31] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#104 [05:31] <Grim_Reaper> http://i.imgur.com/WJ30Q.jpg
#105 [05:32] <GreyVulpine> Would've been great if you'd rotated that before you uploaded it
#106 [05:32] <Grim_Reaper> Sorry ._.
#107 [05:32] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#108 [05:32] * GreyVulpine tilts head
#108 [05:32] <Grim_Reaper> I would assume changing both routers sub's to 255.255.255.255 would be enough o.o
#109 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> Okay, beginning with basics. Class C, 192.168.7.0, has a subnet of 255.255.255.0
#110 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> Leaves you with a range of 192.168.7.0 to 192.168.7.255
#111 [05:33] <Grim_Reaper> Mhm
#112 [05:34] <GreyVulpine> If you do, say, a subnet of 255.255.255.128, you essentially half the number of hosts, yes?
#113 [05:34] <Grim_Reaper> I think so
#114 [05:34] <GreyVulpine> leaving you with a range of 192.168.7.0 to 192.168.7.127
#115 [05:35] <Grim_Reaper> Though all Im meant to do is remove the routers from the network infrastructure via subnet editing
#116 [05:35] <seddy> no info there
#117 [05:35] <seddy> for what your talking about
#118 [05:35] <GreyVulpine> What you're essentially asking, is how to get two Class C, /24s, on the same subnet
#119 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> One is a 192.168.7.x, and the other is 192.168.137.x
#120 [05:36] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh ok so I would have to change their subnet mask to work with each other?
#121 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> Why not just give them a class B subnet, 255.255.0.0
#122 [05:36] <Grim_Reaper> Well I was thinking 255.255.248.0 if if I edited their subnet
#123 [05:37] <Grim_Reaper> Should allow for about... 2048 ip's if Im correct?
#124 [05:37] <seddy> no
#125 [05:37] <seddy> oh overall ip's?
#126 [05:37] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah
#127 [05:38] <Grim_Reaper> As in, making both those ip's act as one big network
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#129 [05:39] <Grim_Reaper> I could probably make it smaller though than 2048
#130 [05:41] <Grim_Reaper> Either way. If I edited both pc's subnet with their switches, to something like, 255.255.248.0. Would that be a correct answer?
#131 [05:41] <Grim_Reaper> Would it eliminate both routers?
#132 [05:42] <GreyVulpine> 248?
#133 [05:42] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah
#134 [05:42] <Grim_Reaper> /24's
#135 [05:42] <GreyVulpine> Erm...
#136 [05:42] <Grim_Reaper> So instead of 11111111, would be 11111000
#137 [05:42] * GreyVulpine stabs VoxelHead
#137 [05:43] <seddy> lol
#138 [05:43] <GreyVulpine> With 255.255.248.0, what would be your first subnet's range?
#139 [05:43] <Grim_Reaper> Original according to the ip/24. it would be 255.255.255.o
#140 [05:43] <GreyVulpine> 192.168.0.1 to.. 3 bits, 7. 192.168.7.255
#141 [05:44] <Grim_Reaper> So I would assume, changing it to 255.255.248.0, would be correct
#142 [05:44] <seddy> what adress is 0
#143 [05:44] <seddy> is that causing the problem?
#144 [05:44] <Grim_Reaper> All the ip's on the network
#145 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> Your 192.168.7.x and 192.168.137.0 wouldn't be able to communicate with each other on a 255.255.248.0 subnet
#146 [05:44] <Grim_Reaper> Have 24 1's in their subnet in binary
#147 [05:44] <Grim_Reaper> so 11111111.11111111.11111111.00000000
#148 [05:45] <seddy> grim
#149 [05:45] <Grim_Reaper> Thus making it 255.255.255.0
#150 [05:45] <seddy> what grey wrote
#151 [05:45] <seddy> they only diff subnet
#152 [05:45] <seddy> aka the 10.*
#153 [05:45] <seddy> ?
#154 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> Grim_Reaper - A 255.255.255.0 on a 192.168.7.0, means you have a host range of 192.168.7.0 to 192.168.7.255
#155 [05:46] <Grim_Reaper> Ok so... 192.168.7.12/24 wouldn't be able to communicate with 192.168.137.5/24 if I changed it to /21
#156 [05:46] <Grim_Reaper> Mk
#157 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> A 255.255.0.0 on a 192.168.7.0 means you have a host range of 192.168.0.1. 192.168.255.254
#158 [05:47] <Grim_Reaper> mk
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#160 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> I don't think you can get any lower than a 255.255.0.0 for your 192.168.7.x and 192.168.137.x to see each other
#161 [05:48] <Grim_Reaper> Mk
#162 [05:48] <Grim_Reaper> But either way. Long story short. 255.255.0.0 would remove the routers?
#163 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> A 255.255.128.0 means you have a host range of 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.127.254 ip range
#164 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> That's what I'm thinking
#165 [05:49] <Grim_Reaper> K
#166 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> Look it up for yourself to make sure, I know I'm plenty rusty at this
#167 [05:49] <seddy> hmm
#168 [05:49] <Grim_Reaper> Well thanks for the help. Im truly thankful
#169 [05:49] <Grim_Reaper> I'll double check with my teacher though
#170 [05:49] <Grim_Reaper> But thanks <3
#171 [05:49] <seddy> ive seen problems with that
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#177 [06:12] <B0rzinat0r> hello, I require some (hopefully) quick assistance if anyone is available to do so
#178 [06:12] <B0rzinat0r> hello, I require some (hopefully) quick assistance if anyone is available to do so
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#182 [06:22] <Zediious> hello?
#183 [06:23] <Zediious> Jag har en fel som dyker upp när jag öppnar Minecraft. det innebär en väg.
#184 [06:24] <Zediious> någon hjälp?
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#189 [06:26] <Eight> Can someone help me?
#190 [06:26] <Eight> Heeeellllooooo?
#191 [06:27] <Eight> Scott?
#192 [06:27] <Eight> VoxelHead?
#193 [06:27] <Eight> really?
#194 [06:28] <Eight> 148 afk people
#195 [06:29] <Eight> My server doesn't show the prefixes or welcome messages any more.
#196 [06:29] <Eight> Can anyone help?
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#201 [06:51] <zippity> when i downloaded minecraft and go to run it, it says could not create the java virtual machine. please help
#202 [06:52] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall and reinstall jav
#203 [06:52] <GreyVulpine> java*
#204 [06:52] <zippity> ok i will try that,thanks
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#206 [06:55] <zippity> how do i uninstall java
#207 [06:55] <zippity> oh w8 i found it
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#213 [07:31] <mib_sux8w0> when i try to run minecraft it says can not create java virtual machine
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#215 [07:35] <mib_sux8w0> please help
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#231 [09:09] <TtomtomT> about minecraft, I just get an error if i want to join my server. My friends don't have that. Minecraft says downloading terrain and the server crashes.
#232 [09:09] <TtomtomT> it is bukkit
#233 [09:09] <GreyVulpine> Delete your player.dat from /world/players/ then try connecting again
#234 [09:10] <TtomtomT> ok
#235 [09:10] <TtomtomT> do i lose stuff if i do that?
#236 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#238 [09:10] <TtomtomT> only thing I can do?
#239 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> Can try moving the player.dat out of the /world/players/ folder, if you can connect successfully after that, you know it's the .dat file which is corrupt
#240 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> If not, move the file back in
#241 [09:11] <TtomtomT> oh yea, smart
#242 [09:12] <TtomtomT> ok it works
#243 [09:12] <TtomtomT> thanks
#244 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> Then the player.dat file is corrupt, nothing you can really do about it
#245 [09:12] <TtomtomT> ok
#246 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> Can always just /give yourself back the stuff
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#248 [09:13] <TtomtomT> i was going to do that
#249 [09:13] <TtomtomT> *I am
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#252 [09:29] <TtomtomT> minecraft if I click on a item in inventory it does the same as shift, placing all of it
#253 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> Check your controls, make sure the binds aren't screwy there
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#255 [09:34] <TtomtomT> looks good
#256 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise I've seen screwy controls from having programs like Synergy and other KVM programs.
#257 [09:36] <TtomtomT> works now
#258 [09:36] <TtomtomT> maybe because of camtasia that was on
#259 [09:36] <TtomtomT> ?
#260 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea. I use camtasia as well, haven't had any problems like that
#261 [09:37] <TtomtomT> hm
#262 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> But if it works now without camtasia, there's a fair chance you found the offending program
#263 [09:37] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#263 [09:53] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine - Every now and then I get that "shift seems to be stuck" bug without any apparent cause. A restart fixed it always so far. "shrug*
#264 [09:54] <Morrolan> Well, there are worse things which could happen I guess.
#265 [09:55] * GreyVulpine sticks Morrolan's character on a floating block of sand, at y=256
#265 [09:55] <Morrolan> Hehe.
#266 [09:55] <Morrolan> Happened to try out one of the recent previews already?
#267 [09:55] <GreyVulpine> Nah, not yet
#268 [09:56] <Morrolan> Me neither. Guess I'll give it a shot today though, some of these new features seems neat.
#269 [09:56] <Morrolan> Maybe enough to make me play again once it's out. :)
#270 [09:56] <GreyVulpine> Heh, maybe
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#305 [12:58] <Electrochock> test
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#313 [13:46] <LordOfCraft> hi
#314 [13:47] <LordOfCraft> lolololololololoo
#315 [13:47] <LordOfCraft> hi?
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#319 [14:08] <Morrolan> hi too, LordOfCraft ;)
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#321 [14:08] <Morrolan> Electrochock - Your test succeeded, btw. :P
#322 [14:09] <Electrochock> what ?
#323 [14:09] <Morrolan> [18:58:23] <Electrochock> test <- this
#324 [14:10] <Electrochock> oh ^
#325 [14:11] <Electrochock> Morrolan, can i talk about minecraft here or registered to #minecraft ?
#326 [14:11] <Morrolan> Uh, yea, you could talk about Minecraft here if you wish. If it's just a gameplay question or some general chatter #minecraft might be better suited though.
#327 [14:12] <Electrochock> ok i made some pics about minecraft all the long watching the mojang streaming
#328 [14:14] <Electrochock> and if i had a agreement or copyright about it
#329 [14:14] <Electrochock> what do you think about it
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#333 [14:22] <Boreeas> Electrochock: Explain that please
#334 [14:22] <Boreeas> Electrochock: What exactly did you make pictures of?
#335 [14:22] <Electrochock> about it http://nuagedecube.fr/ scroll down
#336 [14:22] <Electrochock> this is my website
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#338 [14:24] <Boreeas> You mean that picture of notch in a heart?
#339 [14:24] <Electrochock> yes
#340 [14:25] <Boreeas> Considering that they even tell people to pirate the game, and this is an abstraction from the original picture, you should be fine
#341 [14:26] <Electrochock> i bought the game
#342 [14:26] <Electrochock> i love Minecraft
#343 [14:26] <Boreeas> I wasn't implying you didn't
#344 [14:27] <Electrochock> ok so i'm sorry i'm french sometimes i don't understand very well
#345 [14:27] <Boreeas> No problem
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#347 [14:30] <Electrochock> However, if I want to add more pictures like this I should apply for an authorization?
#348 [14:33] <Boreeas> The best way to do this is probably to ask them via twitter
#349 [14:34] <Electrochock> yes ok thank you
#350 [14:34] <Electrochock> i hope to have a reply ^^
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#356 [15:42] <Electrochock> i am bann mojang streaming tchat :(
#357 [15:42] <Electrochock> are t hey serious ?
#358 [15:42] <TheNoodle> lol
#359 [15:43] <Electrochock> i can talk , i reboot my computer and i'm bann ?
#360 [15:43] <TheNoodle> No idea, not really our problem tbh.
#361 [15:44] <TheNoodle> ;check 184.45.40.45
#362 [15:44] <Electrochock> what is it ?
#363 [15:44] <TheNoodle> !check 184.45.40.45
#364 [15:44] <TheNoodle> This isn't for you.
#365 [15:44] <Electrochock> ok
#366 [15:44] <TheNoodle> !check 184.45.40.45:80
#367 [15:45] <Boreeas> :O
#368 [15:45] <TheNoodle> pfft
#369 [15:45] <TheNoodle> someone wanted me to check it, and screw joining it myself :P
#370 [15:46] <sugoi> whatever happened to the smb that some ops here were going to host?
#371 [15:46] <Boreeas> smb?
#372 [15:46] <sugoi> p
#373 [15:46] <TheNoodle> minecraftirc.net?
#374 [15:46] <sugoi> p*
#375 [15:46] <Boreeas> your mean mc.minecraftirc.net?
#376 [15:46] <sugoi> i suppose i do
#377 [15:46] <sugoi> i tried it once when you guys were talking about it, but it was up yet
#378 [15:46] <sugoi> did that go up?
#379 [15:46] <sugoi> !check mc.minecraftirc.net
#380 [15:47] <sugoi> neato
#381 [15:47] <sugoi> whitelist?
#382 [15:47] <Boreeas> Nope
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#384 [15:48] <sugoi> vanilla
#385 [15:48] <sugoi> ?
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#389 [15:52] <grhmrsn> hi- in classic i can start a single player game but can't connect to ANY multiplayer server. they all return "failed to connect! you failed to connect to the server. it's probably down.". i've tried more than 10 so far. also, already tried deleting all minecraft %appdata%
#390 [15:53] <clarjon1> perhaps the servers are down
#391 [15:53] <grhmrsn> seems unlikely that 12-13 random servers are all down
#392 [15:54] <clarjon1> seeing as minecraft classic is quite abandoned, in terms of dev and support...
#393 [15:55] <grhmrsn> i understand that but people do still use it. seems odd i suddenly can't log on to any server at all
#394 [15:55] <sugoi> grhmrsn: it seems highly unlikely to me that the servers you are trying to use are 'classic' servers
#395 [15:56] <sugoi> as _today_ things are updated
#396 [15:56] <grhmrsn> i'm using the offical website so it's what's listed there: http://www.minecraft.net/classic/list
#397 [15:57] <sugoi> then i don't know
#398 [15:57] <grhmrsn> i could understand it if i was using a ropey old build of WoM client or something but i'm not (already did try that though :P )
#399 [15:57] <clarjon1> heh
#400 [15:57] <grhmrsn> ah well, thanks anyway. i'll scour google some more and figure it out myself
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#402 [15:57] <wippler> hey
#403 [15:57] <clarjon1> i get server is full messages
#404 [15:58] <wippler> can some1 help me
#405 [15:58] <sugoi> wippler: we cannot - we would need to know the problem first
#406 [15:58] <clarjon1> wippler: we wont know until you tell us the issue
#407 [15:58] <wippler> you know heroes plugin?
#408 [15:58] <wippler> how does it actually work
#409 [15:58] <sugoi> wippler: this channel isn't for mods/plugins, sorry
#410 [15:58] <wippler> also what plugins does it require along side it
#411 [15:58] <sugoi> wippler: you should check their website for info
#412 [15:58] <wippler> what is the channel for plugins ?
#413 [15:59] <wippler> well they got topics not website so its confusing
#414 [15:59] <sugoi> sorry, we're not a part of that
#415 [15:59] <clarjon1> there isn't really a single channel for all mods
#416 [15:59] <TheNoodle> ??> wippler mods
#417 [15:59] <VoxelHead> wippler: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#418 [15:59] <VoxelHead> wippler: (mods) as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#419 [15:59] <clarjon1> they tend to have their own separate channels
#420 [15:59] <clarjon1> so
#421 [15:59] <clarjon1> read their forum topics to find where to look for your favorite mod's support!
#422 [16:00] <wippler> im banned from #bukkit
#423 [16:00] <sugoi> what douchey thing did you do?
#424 [16:00] <Electrochock> what is bukkit ?
#425 [16:00] <sugoi> Electrochock: minecraft mod framework
#426 [16:00] <Electrochock> oh yes
#427 [16:01] <wippler> ..
#428 [16:01] <Electrochock> what did he do for a bann ?
#429 [16:01] <wippler> im banned from bukkit so i cannot ask for help
#430 [16:01] <wippler> admin was making fun of me
#431 [16:01] <wippler> i said a mod sucks cuz its not updated
#432 [16:01] <wippler> he banned me for trolling
#433 [16:01] <wippler> 0,-
#434 [16:01] <TheNoodle> I think I remember you wippler.
#435 [16:01] <clarjon1> uhoh
#436 [16:01] <sugoi> wippler: ah, you're the victim
#437 [16:01] <clarjon1> you've been REMEMBERED
#438 [16:01] <clarjon1> that's never good for you, fyi.
#439 [16:01] <Electrochock> i was banned because i love notch
#440 [16:01] <TheNoodle> It's your own fault, and this isn't the place to discuss your ban.
#441 [16:02] <wippler> lol
#442 [16:02] <sugoi> TheNoodle: my fault, i got curious
#443 [16:02] <wippler> i dont really care which place is which ;)
#444 [16:02] <TheNoodle> ily clarjon1
#445 [16:02] <TheNoodle> wippler, Well we do.
#446 [16:02] <wippler> good for you?
#447 [16:02] <clarjon1> wippler: I don't really care whether or not you really care.
#448 [16:02] <clarjon1> wippler: this is the channel for vanilla minecraft support.
#449 [16:02] <TheNoodle> The people that run this channel do not run #bukkit, and vice versa.
#450 [16:02] <Electrochock> by the way
#451 [16:02] <sugoi> wippler: anywho -
#452 [16:02] <Electrochock> I am disappointed
#453 [16:03] <wippler> what for
#454 [16:03] <sugoi> wippler: as clarjon1 said, check the wippler site for irc channels and other forms of supprt
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#456 [16:03] <sugoi> but we ain't it
#457 [16:04] <TheNoodle> Electrochock, I don't think anyone cares
#458 [16:04] <wippler> can some1 help me
#459 [16:04] <Electrochock> there are moderators
#460 [16:04] <sugoi> wippler: ! dude, what did we just say?
#461 [16:04] <Electrochock> and no one can help me i am very confused
#462 [16:04] <Electrochock> i made a website about Notch you said no problem about my pics and i bann
#463 [16:05] <Electrochock> i do not understand
#464 [16:05] <sugoi> Electrochock: we don't make nor enforce the rules
#465 [16:05] <TheNoodle> What the hell are you on about.
#466 [16:05] <Electrochock> where is the problem
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#468 [16:05] <TheNoodle> sugoi, I do :p
#469 [16:05] <wippler> guys
#470 [16:05] <TheNoodle> Electrochock, where were you banned from?
#471 [16:05] <wippler> can somebody tell me one thing
#472 [16:05] <Boreeas> Electrochock: Stream != Chat
#473 [16:05] <TheNoodle> wippler, No, go away.
#474 [16:05] <Electrochock> banned on http://fr.twitch.tv/mojang
#475 [16:05] <wippler> if i run bukkit how can i make it so people cant join only me for testing?
#476 [16:05] <sugoi> TheNoodle: oh, well then
#477 [16:05] <Electrochock> the tchat
#478 [16:05] <TheNoodle> lol sugoi :P
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#480 [16:05] <Boreeas> Electrochock: Did you spam it, maybe?
#481 [16:05] <sugoi> :)
#482 [16:06] <TheNoodle> Electrochock, that has nothing to do with this channel.
#483 [16:06] <Electrochock> spam ? no
#484 [16:06] <sugoi> wippler: enough
#485 [16:06] <Boreeas> wippler: Whitelist
#486 [16:06] <TheNoodle> wippler, whitelist=on
#487 [16:06] <Electrochock> or maybe copy/paste my website
#488 [16:06] <Boreeas> In either case, Electrochock, we can't give you support for that here
#489 [16:06] <Electrochock> ok
#490 [16:06] <wippler> wtf is wrong with u guys
#491 [16:07] <wippler> does it matter on what channel you are?
#492 [16:07] <Boreeas> wippler: Excuse me?
#493 [16:07] <Electrochock> it does not matter
#494 [16:07] <sugoi> wippler: indeed
#495 [16:07] <wippler> you can just help people
#496 [16:07] <TheNoodle> The people in this channel are here because they help with vanilla minecraft.
#497 [16:07] <sugoi> wippler: that's why we have channel!
#498 [16:07] <Boreeas> wippler: This is for Minecraft support, not some weird livestream issues
#499 [16:07] <sugoi> s/!/s!/
#500 [16:07] <wippler> Do you help them because of channel name or because you are lazy lol
#501 [16:07] <TheNoodle> The people in #bukkit help with bukkit.
#502 [16:07] <wippler> im banned from there
#503 [16:07] <wippler> what can i do now?
#504 [16:07] <TheNoodle> That's not our problem.
#505 [16:07] <wippler> change my ip or what
#506 [16:07] <Boreeas> Contact the ops maybe?
#507 [16:08] <TheNoodle> yeah, do that.
#508 [16:08] <TheNoodle> And get network banned \o/
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#510 [16:08] <Boreeas> Yeah, change your ip and ban evade <.<
#511 [16:08] <sugoi> wippler: well first learn to not be a douche
#512 [16:08] <TheNoodle> I wonder if aubot still loves me...
#513 [16:08] <sugoi> hahaha
#514 [16:08] <TheNoodle> \o/
#515 [16:08] * sugoi hugs AuBot
#515 [16:08] * sugoi blushes
#515 [16:09] * Boreeas tells AuBot to hug AuBot
#515 [16:09] <sugoi> haaha
#516 [16:09] * Boreeas is foreveralone.jpeg
#516 [16:09] <sugoi> '.'
#517 [16:10] <wippler> FUCk
#518 [16:10] * AuBot kicked wippler from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ippler :Please keep it civil.)
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#520 [16:10] <sugoi> wippler: sometimes the same people in ...
#521 [16:10] <sugoi> well fine
#522 [16:10] <wippler> lol
#523 [16:10] <sugoi> i was going to say something nice
#524 [16:10] <wippler> im so pissed lokl
#525 [16:10] <sugoi> wippler: grow up, man -- 12?
#526 [16:10] <Boreeas> ;kick wippler ?? attitude
#527 [16:10] <Boreeas> Dammit, WugBot
#528 [16:11] <wippler> are u admin?
#529 [16:11] <Boreeas> Wug: Fix it, nao
#530 [16:11] <sugoi> wippler: there are channels for a reason
#531 [16:11] <wippler> im banned from #bukkit
#532 [16:11] <Boreeas> wippler: I'm +v, which means that I can kick people that are annoying
#533 [16:11] <wippler> what am i ment to do
#534 [16:11] <TheNoodle> Go somewhere else.
#535 [16:11] <Boreeas> Contact the ops, behave better
#536 [16:11] <TheNoodle> It's not our problem.
#537 [16:11] <sugoi> wippler: i'm just saying - keep to the channel topic in your questions, that's the point, and be civil
#538 [16:12] <sugoi> wippler: if you disagree, make your own channel
#539 [16:12] * sugoi welcomes wippler to irc
#539 [16:12] <wippler> fuck it lol
#540 [16:12] * AuBot kicked wippler from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ippler :Please keep it civil.)
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#542 [16:12] <wippler> omg i want ban
#543 [16:12] <Boreeas> Sigh
#544 [16:12] <wippler> i will get it :)
#545 [16:12] <Boreeas> You will, indeed
#546 [16:12] <TheNoodle> I'm not sure if I can ban here...
#547 [16:12] <TheNoodle> ;ban wippler
#548 [16:12] <TheNoodle> awww
#549 [16:12] <Boreeas> TheNoodle: WugBot's gone
#550 [16:12] <sugoi> ;love wippler
#551 [16:12] <TheNoodle> :o
#552 [16:12] <TheNoodle> wat.
#553 [16:13] <TheNoodle> !kick wippler
#554 [16:13] * AuBot kicked wippler from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ippler :Uh oh! Looks like someone should have read the rules! (Issued by TheNoodle with reason: None given.))
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#556 [16:13] <wippler> omg
#557 [16:13] <sugoi> haha, nice kick msg
#558 [16:13] <TheNoodle> lol
#559 [16:13] <Boreeas> TheNoodle: Why can you still kick with AuBot Q.Q
#560 [16:13] <wippler> !kick
#561 [16:13] <TheNoodle> Because it loves me
#562 [16:13] <TheNoodle> :P
#563 [16:13] <wippler> lol i need help
#564 [16:13] <Boreeas> wippler: You forgot a name
#565 [16:13] <Boreeas> .!kick <name>
#566 [16:13] <sugoi> ;hug sugoi
#567 [16:13] <wippler> !kick wippler
#568 [16:13] * AuBot kicked wippler from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ippler :No. Just...No.)
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#570 [16:13] <TheNoodle> lol
#571 [16:13] <wippler> no just no?
#572 [16:13] <wippler> wtf is that
#573 [16:14] <Boreeas> The kick message
#574 [16:14] <sugoi> don't kick yourself
#575 [16:14] <wippler> !kick sugo
#576 [16:14] * AuBot kicked wippler from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ippler :No. Just...No.)
#577 [16:14] <sugoi> 'literal'
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#579 [16:14] <Boreeas> :D
#580 [16:14] <wippler> kick dont work
#581 [16:14] <wippler> lol
#582 [16:14] <sugoi> looks like it works to me
#583 [16:14] <Boreeas> ^
#584 [16:14] <wippler> !kick sugoi
#585 [16:14] * AuBot kicked wippler from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ippler :No. Just...No.)
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#587 [16:14] <sugoi> i like this
#588 [16:14] <wippler> STFU STOP KICKING ME
#589 [16:14] <TheNoodle> This amuses me.
#590 [16:14] <TheNoodle> lolled
#591 [16:14] <wippler> same lol
#592 [16:14] <TheNoodle> Nah, you seem a little mad.
#593 [16:15] <wippler> i am
#594 [16:15] <wippler> lols
#595 [16:15] <Boreeas> he mad
#596 [16:15] <sugoi> wippler: but seriously, read the mod's website-docs, you can learn a lot there
#597 [16:15] <wippler> c'mon some1 help me with heroes plugin
#598 [16:15] <wippler> it dont have any
#599 [16:15] <sugoi> wippler: and it probably has a forum you can ask questions on
#600 [16:15] <TheNoodle> I can't think of an op that'd be online.
#601 [16:15] <wippler> it got bunch of topics
#602 [16:15] <TheNoodle> :/
#603 [16:16] <wippler> is there any video showing heroes abilities?
#604 [16:16] <TheNoodle> Not here.
#605 [16:16] <Boreeas> http://www.nairaland.com/attachments/571446_hemad_jpg14f606ea423f7672fd5b4777cea3af40
#606 [16:16] <sugoi> wippler: well the internets should have an age limit, i understand
#607 [16:16] <TheNoodle> !kick wippler Go away.
#608 [16:16] * AuBot kicked wippler from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ippler :I love you too! <3 (Issued by TheNoodle with reason: Go away.))
#609 [16:16] <TheNoodle> Hopefully he stays away now.
#610 [16:16] <Boreeas> !kick TheNoodle I want to use this, too D:
#611 [16:16] * AuBot kicked TheNoodle from #minecrafthelp (Reason: heNoodle :Uh oh! Looks like someone should have read the rules! (Issued by Boreeas with reason: I want to use this, too D:))
#612 [16:17] <Boreeas> Oh wait, I can :O
#613 [16:17] <Boreeas> Since when is that?
#614 [16:17] <sugoi> ...
#615 [16:17] <sugoi> beware the wrath of the noodle
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#617 [16:17] * sugoi hides
#617 [16:17] <Boreeas> Sorry D:
#618 [16:17] <Boreeas> I wasn't aware I was able to use it again
#619 [16:18] <TheNoodle> lolled
#620 [16:22] <sugoi> so guys
#621 [16:22] <sugoi> i'm curious how you log in _here_
#622 [16:22] <clarjon1> huh
#623 [16:22] <sugoi> me: @work, putty to home server, screen, screen named esper, irssi
#624 [16:23] <clarjon1> lol
#625 [16:23] <sugoi> well bc i work from many different machines, so this set is nice for me
#626 [16:23] <sugoi> then i can just put my little putty window off on my 2nd monitor in the bottom right corner
#627 [16:24] <sugoi> nice and cozy
#628 [16:24] <Boreeas> sugoi: chatzilla -> bouncer -> esper
#629 [16:25] <Boreeas> And sometimes telnet, if I'm really bored
#630 [16:27] <sugoi> i should use a bouncer
#631 [16:27] <Boreeas> Yeah
#632 [16:29] <sugoi> Boreeas: is one recommended over another?
#633 [16:30] * Boreeas points sugoi to #freebnc
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#635 [16:30] <Boreeas> Or, if you want to set it up yourself, znc
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#637 [16:35] <sugoi> hmm
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#639 [16:37] <sugoi> Boreeas: well i want remote host so as to mask my origin
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#644 [17:04] <UltraMC> Hi
#645 [17:05] <UltraMC> How to start a Minecraft server? It just stopped and my minecraf.sh deleted itself -.- when recreted it in home/user/ and starting it on SSH with minecraft.sh it says: minecraft$ minecraft.sh
#646 [17:05] <UltraMC> -bash: minecraft.sh: command not found
#647 [17:05] <TheNoodle> use sh minecraft.sh
#648 [17:05] <Boreeas> UltraMC: ./minecraft.sh
#649 [17:05] <UltraMC> always did minecraft.sh with no prefix "sh"
#650 [17:05] <UltraMC> lol?
#651 [17:05] <UltraMC> BUT it worked
#652 [17:06] <UltraMC> How it is possible?
#653 [17:06] <Boreeas> ./<filename> to start a file in your current dir
#654 [17:06] <Boreeas> <commandname> for a command
#655 [17:06] <Boreeas> minecraft.sh is a file, not a command
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#657 [17:09] <UltraMC> oooo
#658 [17:09] <UltraMC> Yeah
#659 [17:09] <UltraMC> Ive did it ./FILE
#660 [17:09] <UltraMC> Right
#661 [17:09] <UltraMC> *ashamed*
#662 [17:09] <UltraMC> Thank YOU
#663 [17:09] <TheNoodle> lol
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#665 [17:11] <AndreasB> !paid chleyney
#666 [17:11] <AndreasB> !paid chleyney
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#668 [17:11] <Boreeas> Quick support was quick
#669 [17:11] <TheNoodle> \o/
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#671 [17:18] <UltraMC> Quick support is quick, indeed
#672 [17:18] <UltraMC> Can I ask here about server freezing problemo?
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#674 [17:31] <UltraMC> Can I ask for an assistance: http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/freezed-server-exception-in-thread-listen-thread.60307/#post-969920
#675 [17:31] <UltraMC> Please :)
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#683 [18:05] <Avenkal19> Does anyone on here have experance with Forestrycraft?
#684 [18:07] <Electrochock> what is it ?
#685 [18:08] <Avenkal19> Its a mod that adds bee keeping and forestry to minecraft. But when I go and try to download it i receve the error invalid or corrup jarfile
#686 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Is that the error when you try to download it, or run it?
#687 [18:09] <Avenkal19> Download.
#688 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Did you download it from: http://forestry.sengir.net/wiki/index.php?n=Main.Downloads
#689 [18:10] <Avenkal19> Yeap
#690 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Then try another browser, it seems to download fine for me
#691 [18:11] <Avenkal19> i downloaded the first link Client: http://bit.ly/zjCv4T
#692 [18:11] <Avenkal19> what browser do you use
#693 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Firefox, Opera, both work fine for me
#694 [18:13] <Avenkal19> I got chrome ill try and report what i find. Thank you so much
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#696 [18:14] <Avenkal19> I used IE (i feel so dirty) and that worked thank you so much
#697 [18:15] * GreyVulpine tips hat
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#698 [18:16] <TheNoodle> GreyVulpine, mind if I pm you?
#699 [18:17] <xMRSOLODOLOx> hey could anyone help me with some farming questions i have?
#700 [18:18] <Avenkal19> Not sure if i can but whats the question
#701 [18:18] <xMRSOLODOLOx> Im trying to farm trees in a desert biome, and i have dirt and the saplings planted. they are surrounded by water and sunlight/ torch light. im unsure why they aren't growing and i can find a reason why
#702 [18:19] <Avenkal19> have you tried useing bonemeal on them
#703 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> TheNoodle - As long as it's quick.
#704 [18:20] <xMRSOLODOLOx> Avenkal19: yeah i used a bunch on it and it won't grow either
#705 [18:20] <xMRSOLODOLOx> yet they have plenty of room
#706 [18:20] <Avenkal19> hmmm are you sure that it has room to grow
#707 [18:21] <Avenkal19> Also are they birch or Pines i dont think they will grow in a desert
#708 [18:21] <Avenkal19> but normal trees will
#709 [18:22] <Avenkal19> I hope that helps
#710 [18:22] <Avenkal19> Later guys
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#716 [18:46] <TheNoodle> ah, it won't be :(
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#725 [19:32] <mib_p2ywlv> how do I get a beta 1.3
#726 [19:33] <Morrolan> Grab yourself a tool like MCNostalgia and downgrade to that version.
#727 [19:34] <Morrolan> Unless you are talking about the upcoming 1.2 update, which is _not_ a beta. If that's the case then there's a link to the .jar on mojang.com
#728 [19:35] <mib_p2ywlv> can you get seeds on mojang.com
#729 [19:35] <mib_p2ywlv> new to minecraft
#730 [19:37] <clarjon1> mib_p2ywlv: you just punch seeds in if youw ant
#731 [19:37] <clarjon1> or use a random one :3
#732 [19:37] <mib_p2ywlv> do i need a beta
#733 [19:38] <clarjon1> what?
#734 [19:38] <clarjon1> no.
#735 [19:38] <clarjon1> You jsut pay, then grab the client from minecraft.net, and it'll download the game to play
#736 [19:39] <mib_p2ywlv> we have the game just want to get some maps
#737 [19:39] <clarjon1> You start off with a fresh map, and build stuff on it :)
#738 [19:40] <mib_p2ywlv> how do i get certain types of maps like deserted island, airplanes, etc
#739 [19:42] <mib_p2ywlv> where can you get texture packs?
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#741 [19:46] <silvy> hello
#742 [19:46] <silvy> i want a plugin so my bukkit will connect to my IRC chanel
#743 [19:47] <silvy> what type of plugin would i get
#744 [19:47] <silvy> what type of plugin would i get
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#747 [20:18] <mizuumi> I've had almost two weeks of Java Runtime Errors, and half a week of just bumping a thread of no help. Details and error report are here: http://pastebin.com/fygUmD2j
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#749 [20:20] <Wug> try updating your sound drivers?
#750 [20:21] <Wug> Boreeas: oh hello
#751 [20:21] <mizuumi> Let me see if it helps.
#752 [20:21] <Wug> so I herd u were fighting with services
#753 [20:22] <Wug> mizuumi: it also looks related to industrialcraft. If IC requires audiomod, you should try vanilla and see if it works without it
#754 [20:23] <mizuumi> It doesn't. I don't know why the log is saying IC. That log was generated under a vanilla minecraft (I did, however, have IC2, but deleted .minecraft completely to get a vanilla MC)
#755 [20:25] <mizuumi> Let me reupdate and get a new log error
#756 [20:26] <mizuumi> I was trying to use my boyfriend's .minecraft to see if it was something in my folders, and yeah, didn't work
#757 [20:27] <Wug> there is definitely industrialcraft in there
#758 [20:28] <mizuumi> Wow, really, minecraft? You don't generate a log error when I have someone legitly trying to help. >o<
#759 [20:28] <Wug> we have a launcher that saves a log
#760 [20:28] <Wug> I dont remember the link and the bot is down, hang on a sec
#761 [20:29] <mizuumi> Okay, I don't know what happened, but my minecraft is loading fine, and the sound is working (which wasn't working without crashing)
#762 [20:29] <Wug> might be the updated audio drivers
#763 [20:29] <Wug> did you actually do that
#764 [20:30] <mizuumi> They were up to date
#765 [20:30] <Wug> might want to do a force update
#766 [20:30] <Wug> if you do have leftover mods or anything, that will clear them
#767 [20:31] <mizuumi> Yeah, I did. It's a very clean minecraft lol
#768 [20:31] <Wug> maybe it was industrialcraft then
#769 [20:31] <Wug> did it start working after you force updated
#770 [20:32] <mizuumi> Oh believe me, it wasn't Industrial. I had force updated several times generated that exact error. >_<;
#771 [20:32] <mizuumi> This problem has been with me for about two weeks
#772 [20:32] <mizuumi> and all of a sudden it's working, idk
#773 [20:32] <Wug> was the error log out of date? because the crash was definitely happening during industrialcraft's initialization
#774 [20:34] <Wug> |Kiikun|: so i herd you broke wugbot
#775 [20:34] <mizuumi> That was the most current one, which was from the... 13th? I'd given up hope of actually getting help
#776 [20:34] <Wug> mizuumi: well
#777 [20:34] <Wug> I dont know what I did that fixed it
#778 [20:34] <Wug> but if it breaks again
#779 [20:34] <Wug> come back here
#780 [20:34] <Wug> support on the forum is ... patchy at best. *cough*
#781 [20:35] <mizuumi> Lol will do, thank you
#782 [20:35] <mizuumi> No kidding! It's frustrating there
#783 [20:36] <zkxs> but help.mojang.com says the forum is the place to go!
#784 [20:36] <Wug> zkxs: yeah. we're working on fixing that
#785 [20:36] <zkxs> i miss the mibbits
#786 [20:37] <sugoi> zkxs: haah
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#788 [20:37] <zkxs> voxelhead doesn't have anyone to tell what an OS is!
#789 [20:38] <zkxs> ?? os
#790 [20:38] <VoxelHead> os: Some examples of operating systems are Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Mac OS X Leopard, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Mac OS X Lion, Ubuntu Linux, Fedora Linux, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and Arch Linux.
#791 [20:38] <mib_xxa435> can anyone help? minecraft won't work
#792 [20:39] <zkxs> :D
#793 [20:39] <Wug> mib_xxa435: ...
#794 [20:40] <mib_xxa435> it just says "cannot open file or directory"
#795 [20:40] <mib_xxa435> is minecraft a file?
#796 [20:40] <Wug> I'll turn your minecraft into a directory
#797 [20:40] <zkxs> just like the good ol' days
#798 [20:40] <Wug> * filesystem crashes
#799 [20:40] <mib_xxa435> Wug: does that fix it?
#800 [20:41] <sugoi> wish i could keep messing around - have to run
#801 [20:41] <sugoi> later guys (/afk)
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#804 [20:59] <Galakanokas> so im just going to throw this out there and hopefully someone can help. To make a long short I bought the game back in october 2010 but stopped playing about 6-12months now when i try logging on it says i need to buy premium.
#805 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> First question. Did you buy it from minecraft.net?
#806 [21:00] <Galakanokas> i went to the support center a few days ago but they havent messaged me back
#807 [21:00] <Galakanokas> yes i did
#808 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Then, what we frequently see is that people make multiple accounts at minecraft.net, but purchased premium under one account. They'll forget which account they purchased it under.
#809 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Try doing a http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename on all email addresses you normally use. It'll send an email back, with all MC accounts linked to that email, along which which ones are premium
#810 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> along with which*
#811 [21:02] <Galakanokas> i only ever had one, i used the retrievename to get my username and in that email address history i found my old transaction number
#812 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> Did the email contain your username, with the phrase "(*premium)" next to it?
#813 [21:03] <Galakanokas> yeah
#814 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> Then you should be able to log in fine...
#815 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> What was the username?
#816 [21:04] <Galakanokas> Fr0zen89
#817 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> !paid Fr0zen89
#818 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure that was exactly how it was spelled in the email?
#819 [21:06] <Galakanokas> ill make sure, brb
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#826 [21:29] <Fr0zen89> the email doesnt say my username..
#827 [21:29] <Fr0zen89> Description Unit price Qty Amount
#828 [21:29] <Fr0zen89> Minecraft premium account
#829 [21:29] <Fr0zen89> 9.95 EUR 1 9.95 EUR
#830 [21:31] <Fr0zen89> its me.. Galakanokas
#831 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Fr0zen89 - Request an email from: http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#832 [21:33] <Fr0zen89> Accounts for --------------@hotmail.com:
#833 [21:33] <Fr0zen89> * fr0zen89
#834 [21:33] <Fr0zen89> ... only the one account
#835 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> It might have been the email you used for paypal, but is it the same email address you used for minecraft.net?
#836 [21:34] <Fr0zen89> same email
#837 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Do you use any other email addresses?
#838 [21:35] <Fr0zen89> only use one for gaming, i tried my other emails just to be sure
#839 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> If there's no other MC accounts you use, you'll need to wait for Mojang to get back to you on that ticket. There's nothing else we can suggest for you here.
#840 [21:38] <Fr0zen89> just my luck, thanks anyways grey
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#845 [22:37] <Panda> Does anyone know which enchantment is the fortune?
#846 [22:38] <m0nk> www.google.com or www.wiki.com
#847 [22:38] <Panda> i looked on wiki and it said its just random
#848 [22:38] <m0nk> then it is random
#849 [22:38] <Panda> :(
#850 [22:38] <m0nk> does it say how random?
#851 [22:44] <Wug> the wiki breaks down enchantments by probability
#852 [22:48] <|Kiikun|> even better breakdown. http://pernsteiner.org/minecraft/enchant/
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#855 [23:18] <quibbit> why did trying to buy mine craft freeze my debit card for 24 hours?
#856 [23:19] <quibbit> hello??
#857 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> Your debit card wasn't frozen for 24 hours, just that MoneyBookers won't accept it for 24 hours for reasons unknown
#858 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> You can try Paypal instead
#859 [23:20] <quibbit> i don't have a paypal :(
#860 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> Don't need to make a paypal account to use it
#861 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> You can use paypal like any other payment processing site, just enter in your info and Paypal will take care of the payment process
#862 [23:21] <quibbit> so just click the paypal payment option and then just enter in my info just like a normal card?
#863 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> right
#864 [23:21] <quibbit> oh
#865 [23:22] <quibbit> so i don't even need a payapl it just automatically works without it?
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