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#2 [00:05] <MitchellKubillus> I was banned unfairly from the #smp channel, how do I get unbanned?
#3 [00:05] <MitchellKubillus> I was banned unfairly from the #smp channel, how do I get unbanned?
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#6 [00:14] <langkid1> I'm hearing littie "pop" sounds around bedrock level
#7 [00:14] <langkid1> what is it?!
#8 [00:14] <langkid1> it's like the sound a suction cup would make when you pulled it off of something
#9 [00:15] <langkid1> I'm running 12W07b
#10 [00:15] <|Kiikun|> langkid1: lava
#11 [00:15] <langkid1> ah
#12 [00:15] <langkid1> I forgot lol
#13 [00:16] <langkid1> ._. just found it
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#17 [00:20] <outsomnia> So, any solution to that java problem besides the fixall word?
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#19 [00:45] <Smokin> How can I figure out why my client wont open and fix it?
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#22 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> Smokin - The launcher doesn't run at all?
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#24 [00:48] <Smokin> nope, I have the launcher that doesn't require a password and that runs fine, but yea it don't run
#25 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> You have a cracked launcher...
#26 [00:49] <Cael> we kinda Dont Support Pirates here,
#27 [00:49] <SinZ> ^
#28 [00:49] <Smokin> I do? My friend gave me the one where u just put in a name and play, but I don't loaded the one from mine craft that don't work for me
#29 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> You do
#30 [00:50] <Smokin> I didn't know it was cracked sorry, but this one from here is the one im trying to use http://www.minecraft.net/download
#31 [00:51] <SinZ> any errors?
#32 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay for a minecraft account?
#33 [00:51] <Smokin> Where would i look for errors at?
#34 [00:51] <Smokin> No, but planning on it soon
#35 [00:51] <SinZ> Then you cant play minecraft.
#36 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Then the launcher wouldn't do you any good anyways
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#38 [00:52] <Smokin> ahh, but I still wanna try 2 get it up to play, if i can't get the client working then whats the point in buying it
#39 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Buy the game before you play it
#40 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Stop pirating.
#41 [00:53] <Cael> that client Connects to Minecraft's Auth servers
#42 [00:53] <Cael> before it even downloads
#43 [00:53] <SinZ> Smokin: the point in paying for a game IS to play it.
#44 [00:53] <Cael> so that launcher is Completly Useles.
#45 [00:53] <SinZ> There is a demo available, but its abit old
#46 [00:53] <SinZ> but will show if the game runs or not
#47 [00:53] <Cael> on the main site select "Browser"
#48 [00:54] <Me4502> How can I still get the mojam games?
#49 [00:54] <Smokin> yes I know, but if the launcher wont load then how will it connect to minecraft''s auth servers?
#50 [00:54] <Cael> that'll run Minecraft classic
#51 [00:54] <Me4502> My computer was dead during the donate time
#52 [00:54] <SinZ> Smokin: So what happens when you run the launcher
#53 [00:54] <Cael> you still cnat i think for another hour or so on teh humble bundle page
#54 [00:54] <Smokin> When I try to run it, My admin things show's to hit yes, then nothing
#55 [00:54] <Cael> *can
#56 [00:55] <Smokin> It showed up once before but not nw
#57 [00:55] <Me4502> Cael: It just says its over
#58 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39166337/javaporbwems.png
#59 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> er
#60 [00:55] <Cael> ahh i got it earlier why they allowed it.
#61 [00:55] <Me4502> Okay :(
#62 [00:55] <Cael> *while,
#63 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> Smokin - http://launch.minecraft.net/test.html -- Pastebin.com the contents of that for us
#64 [00:56] <Me4502> I wanted the game, but my computer was dead during the time
#65 [00:56] <Smokin> http://pastebin.com/Hv3prwVq
#66 [00:57] <Smokin> that brought the client up
#67 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> Then there should be nothing wrong with the launcher, redownload it
#68 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> I'd delete your pirated launcher, also delete the contents of your C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\ folder
#69 [00:59] <Cael> when you buy Minecraft goto http://www.minecraft.net/store :3 dont forget to register!
#70 [01:00] <SinZ> ^ Dont trust any other site
#71 [01:00] <Cael> and choose your name carefully as it cant be changed lateron,
#72 [01:00] <Smokin> Alright, Well the thing you sent the test it brought it but i just downloaded another one(4th time) and still wont come up
#73 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> Smokin - Try a reboot of your computer and try the launcher.
#74 [01:01] <Smokin> Alright thanks guys, restarting comp now
#75 [01:05] <Magiobiwan> Does Minecraft run not as well with Java 6 then it does with Java 7?
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#77 [01:08] <SinZ> Magiobiwan: Java7 isnt finished yet
#78 [01:08] <SinZ> use Java6
#79 [01:09] <Magiobiwan> Oh.
#80 [01:09] <SinZ> there has been some issues with java7
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#82 [01:11] <Smokin> I tried again and still got nothing, thanks for the help any ways
#83 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> Smokin - Tell us what you see when you run this: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#84 [01:18] <Smokin> okay one sec
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#86 [01:22] <Smokin> That brought up the client but gave this error
#87 [01:22] <Smokin> C:\Users\Owner\Desktop>java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.La uncherFrame java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\lastlog in (The system cannot find the file specified) at java.io.FileInputStream.open(Native Method) at java.io.FileInputStream.<init>(Unknown Source) at net.minecraft.Lo
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#89 [01:23] <Smokin> http://pastebin.com/RCgS80Zy
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#99 [01:48] <hiimcarl> hey what is the item id for enderdragon?
#100 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Didn't think the ender dragon had an item id
#101 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> Can't spawn an e-dragon from a spawner egg anyways
#102 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Smokin - I'm betting your pirated version screwed up the regular launcher. Check your hosts file for an entry for minecraft
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#104 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> ??> Smokin win/hosts
#105 [01:53] <VoxelHead> Smokin: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#106 [01:53] <VoxelHead> Smokin: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#107 [01:54] <hiimcarl> yes you can i have done it before it was 383 1 64 or something like that
#108 [01:55] <Smokin> http://pastebin.com/LaE28Fgu
#109 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> hiimcarl - Those are spawner eggs.
#110 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Spawn_Egg
#111 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> Specifically says that enderdragons do NOT spawn from them
#112 [01:56] <hiimcarl> ok no sorry 383 1 63 try that
#113 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> Smokin - Hmm. Could you right click on the launcher and run it as admin?
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#115 [01:56] <Smokin> still doesn't do anything
#116 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Smokin - Hmm.
#117 [01:59] <hiimcarl> grey go onto a server and type in /give your name 383 1 63
#118 [02:00] <Smokin> I seen stuff on minecraft forums, about openGL(may be wrong around that) isn't supported by intel video cards, would that be it?
#119 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> Smokin - Yeah, but your error isn't the video card drivers, and the debug launcher works..
#120 [02:01] <hiimcarl> no grey?
#121 [02:01] <Smokin> Ahh alrigh
#122 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> So I'm a little confused.
#123 [02:02] <Sporkin> hey, do server logs include timestamps?
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#127 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> Sporkin - Yes
#128 [02:03] <Sporkin> mm, would anyone be able to do me a big favour and link me a few lines of txt from a server log file? just want to see the format
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#130 [02:04] <Sporkin> briefly looked on forums for anything but didn't find it
#131 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Sporkin - pastebin.com/jTwYqgDq
#132 [02:06] <Smokin> So Grey you don't know what could cause the client not to come up
#133 [02:06] <Smokin> ?
#134 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> Smokin - A few, but hmm..
#135 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> First thing I would check, is how much free RAM you have, check your task manager's Performance tab, look at available
#136 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> If it's anywhere below 500K RAM, minecraft will generally not launch. Usually recommend at least a gig of RAM for minecraft
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#138 [02:07] <Smokin> should i be looking at free or avaiable?
#139 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Free.
#140 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Other thing is that sometimes a corrupt version of Java can make Minecraft not launch. Reinstalling java fresh (uninstall java completely before), usually fixes this
#141 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> As you mentioned before, video drivers can also cause this, but the debug launcher worked for you, so I don't think it's this
#142 [02:08] <Smokin> ahh, will i got 150MB+ free, alright i'll try 2 do that
#143 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Eep, how much RAM do you have on the machine total?
#144 [02:09] <Smokin> 4gb
#145 [02:09] <Sporkin> thanks GreyVulpine. Does player typing, joins/quits, deaths etc have the same format?
#146 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> And you have 150 megs FREE? Good god, what are you running on that machine?
#147 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> Sporkin - Basically, yes
#148 [02:10] <Smokin> well atm i have like 8 windows up + the ones in the back ground
#149 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> Sporkin - Try googling for: site:pastebin.com "starting minecraft server version 1.1"
#150 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/AgmmuZ7b -- One running mods and such
#151 [02:13] <Sporkin> cool, thanks
#152 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> 2012-02-14 15:33:57 [INFO] legitfartz lost connection: disconnect.quitting
#153 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> 2012-02-14 15:34:41 [INFO] legitfartz [/99.247.35.238:49898] logged in with entity id 172554 at ([DarkSuny Nation] -14024.25, 107.34375, 7386.15625)
#154 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> Typical connect and disconnect
#155 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> Smokin - Try closing a few programs, see if you can clear up some RAM
#156 [02:17] <Smokin> i will, gonna uninstall java to reinstall now, for some reason verison 6 update 29,(64-bit) and update 31 are both installed
#157 [02:19] <Smokin> Got it to come up now, I just uninstalled the update 29(64-bit) and it worked
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#159 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Great
#160 [02:20] <Smokin> Thanks Grey for the help
#161 [02:20] * GreyVulpine tips hat
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#165 [02:24] <alir100> Hey guys
#166 [02:25] <alir100> I just came across a problem
#167 [02:25] <alir100> In my singleplayer map I cannot touch blocks that are in a certain area.
#168 [02:25] <alir100> the black outline doesn't even appear when I put my cursor over them
#169 [02:25] <alir100> I can destroy blocks outside of this area fine though.
#170 [02:26] <alir100> also the singleplayer commands wall tool can target and change them, i just can't break or place blocks.
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#172 [02:27] <alir100> I've tried restarting the game, I even converted a copy of the map to anvil to try on the weekly build. same problem there.
#173 [02:27] <provegreywrong> grey how can i post a picture to here it is a pic of me spawning enderdragon with the id of 383 1 63
#174 [02:29] <provegreywrong> greyvulpine how do i post a pic here of me spawning enderdragon
#175 [02:30] <alir100> http://tinypic.com/
#176 [02:33] <EyesIsMine> no
#177 [02:34] <EyesIsMine> http://imgur.com
#178 [02:34] <provegreywrong> <a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=2hzqqtl" target="_blank"><img src="http://i44.tinypic.com/2hzqqtl.png" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a> there you go grey suck on that sucker
#179 [02:34] <alir100> thank you for that. Would have been nice in a private message though.+
#180 [02:35] <provegreywrong> wait alir are you grey
#181 [02:35] <EyesIsMine> no
#182 [02:35] <alir100> no
#183 [02:36] <provegreywrong> greyvulpine talk now you said there is no item id for ender dragon eggs i proved you wrong id is 383 1 63 only works on servers
#184 [02:36] <provegreywrong> yea with some cheese on that
#185 [02:37] <alir100> how old are you? Jesus.
#186 [02:37] <provegreywrong> well one im not jesus that is a invalid comment sir
#187 [02:38] <alir100> that is what the question mark was for. "How old are you, Jesus?" Would have been asking jesus a question.
#188 [02:39] <alir100> whew.
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#191 [02:42] <awweaver> it is certainly quiet in hur....
#192 [02:42] * awweaver drops a pin
#192 [02:42] <alir100> I know :(
#193 [02:44] <alir100> awweaver, have you ever had a problem where you couldn't break blocks in siingleplayer?
#194 [02:44] <awweaver> nope
#195 [02:44] <alir100> It won't even show the black outline when i put the cursor on some blocks
#196 [02:44] <alir100> but it's only a certain area.
#197 [02:45] <awweaver> mods?
#198 [02:45] <alir100> I used to have just a few
#199 [02:45] <alir100> took em off
#200 [02:45] <awweaver> w/ the problem
#201 [02:45] <awweaver> ?
#202 [02:45] <alir100> even tried converting a copy to anvil
#203 [02:45] <awweaver> anvil?
#204 [02:46] <alir100> the new map type
#205 [02:46] <alir100> for 12w07b
#206 [02:46] <awweaver> ....
#207 [02:46] <Cael> (1.2 Week 7 snapshot)
#208 [02:46] <awweaver> i know
#209 [02:46] <alir100> nothing worked
#210 [02:46] <alir100> it's like the blocks aren't there
#211 [02:46] <Cael> Anvil allows for 2x teh normal Map Height
#212 [02:46] <alir100> Yeah, it's awesome!
#213 [02:46] <awweaver> Beta = bugs, report it
#214 [02:46] * awweaver doesnt use the snapshots
#214 [02:46] <Cael> awweaver,
#215 [02:47] <awweaver> ?
#216 [02:47] <alir100> no no, the problem initially arose in 1.1
#217 [02:47] <Cael> he's said it happened BEFORE the snapshot.
#218 [02:47] <alir100> yeah
#219 [02:47] <Cael> you may have a chunk Error Somewhere
#220 [02:47] <awweaver> Honestly i havent played that much been playing other games
#221 [02:47] <Cael> when you try whats it say in your console?
#222 [02:47] <alir100> consol?
#223 [02:48] <alir100> you mean like, java consol, or minecraft in game consol
#224 [02:48] <Cael> your ohh depr i thougght for a moment it was a smp map
#225 [02:48] <Cael> try loading it in a Server.
#226 [02:48] <alir100> okay
#227 [02:48] <Cael> you can see if thers a chunk error as it'd shw up in vanilla and Bukkit's Server Console window
#228 [02:49] <alir100> okay, starting up the server now
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#230 [02:52] <alir100> Okay, nothing out of the ordinary in the consol
#231 [02:52] <alir100> wait i can break blocks in smp...
#232 [02:52] <EyesIsMine> out of range maybe?
#233 [02:53] <alir100> no i was right beside them
#234 [02:54] <alir100> woah....
#235 [02:54] <alir100> In the smp version, I can break blocks but not place them
#236 [02:54] <Cael> you see errors when you place?
#237 [02:54] <alir100> they appear and disappear instantly
#238 [02:54] <alir100> nope
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#240 [02:54] <alir100> I'm an op and in creative mode
#241 [02:55] <Cael> dont forget to op yourself
#242 [02:55] <Cael> ok
#243 [02:55] <alir100> Let me disable spawn protection?
#244 [02:55] <Cael> your map maybe just Corrupt
#245 [02:55] <alir100> hmm
#246 [02:56] <Cael> your going to lose your buildings but you can try a new map thats a close of teh old one.
#247 [02:56] <Cael> whiel you still got it up in SMP Press F3
#248 [02:56] <Cael> and write down the Seed
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#250 [02:56] <alir100> oops I closed it lemme run the server again
#251 [02:56] <alir100> oh no, it was a superflat world
#252 [02:57] <alir100> I was building an arrow cannon
#253 [02:57] <alir100> i dunno if people know about them yet. It's incredible.
#254 [02:57] <Cael> ohh on the superflat a Seed will be basicly pointless
#255 [02:57] <Cael> ohh you mena like a gattling Gun?
#256 [02:57] <alir100> You can shoot hundreds of arrows in a direction and make them go SOOO far
#257 [02:57] <alir100> basically uses tnt to blast the arros
#258 [02:57] <alir100> arrows*
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#260 [03:04] <|Kiikun|> the seed in superflat can help control slime spawning. and can be used to determine where villages are supposed to spawn normally too i think
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#263 [03:12] <Tgriz> Hello. Get error in which i try to connect to an online minecraft server and it gets frozen at downloading terrain, then has trouble connecting to server after freezing for like 20 seconds
#264 [03:19] <Tgriz> Anyone have any dieas?
#265 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> Try other servers, if they work, then I'm betting it's a corrupt player.dat
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#267 [03:20] <Tgriz> That is the case
#268 [03:20] <Tgriz> how do i fix that
#269 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> Have server's admin delete your playername.dat in /world/players/
#270 [03:20] <Tgriz> ok
#271 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> Will clear your player's inventory/position data and any corrupt info
#272 [03:21] <alir100> Grey, there was some guy trying to show you off earlier.
#273 [03:21] <alir100> i dunno if you noticed..
#274 [03:24] * GreyVulpine did.
#274 [03:24] <Tgriz> im askign an
#275 [03:24] <alir100> sweet
#276 [03:25] <Tgriz> admin
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#278 [03:44] <Tgriz> thank you
#279 [04:05] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: where do you live in again?
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#382 [04:35] <Kealper> man, flea wasn't kidding when he said rerouting lol
#383 [04:35] <Cael> was Just about to say that
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#410 [04:36] <GreyVulpine> Bananabot's getting hosed as well
#411 [04:37] <GreyVulpine> Greybot, with its awesome mIRC client, is still okay.
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#539 [05:03] <Kealper> next netsplit will tell :o
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#542 [05:12] <lemon-rev> oooh, sounds like a good thing to watch for then :)
#543 [05:13] <lemon-rev> i would if you goto #help and ask for one :P
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#554 [06:16] <bejoe905> nick bejoe905|Away
#555 [06:16] <bejoe905> >.>
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#568 [07:59] <Wug> <Kealper> [04:37:31] it quit before it sent the whole quit message :|
#569 [07:59] <Wug> quit messages are blocked if you've been connected for less than 5 minutes to prevent spam
#570 [07:59] <Wug> I spent an hour debugging the same "problem" with wugbot
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#582 [09:10] <MTG> Hi all
#583 [09:11] <MTG> Is it possible that saplings never grow into trees even if the space and lighting requirements are met?
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#585 [09:12] <Boreeas> Nope
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#587 [09:13] <MTG> So saplings always become trees at some point?
#588 [09:15] <Boreeas> Yup
#589 [09:17] <MTG> Thanks :)
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#594 [09:36] <bejoe905> Hello all
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#596 [09:43] <Morrolan> Well, _theoretically_ it could be that, no matter how long you wait, a sapling still hasn't grown into a tree. Chances are getting pretty fast pretty low though. :P
#597 [09:43] <Morrolan> Well, _theoretically_ it could be that, no matter how long you wait, a sapling still hasn't grown into a tree. Chances are getting pretty fast pretty low though. :P
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#604 [10:32] <NotiCon> Placed stronghold in INVALID biome at (-42, -57) 50, 2 <- this meaning what? in the server window
#605 [10:34] <[L]> It placed it in the wrogn biome? Not sure.
#606 [10:34] <[L]> I don't think it spawned.
#607 [10:36] <Morrolan> I get that error message on every startup as well, but it doesn't seem to have any consequences. *shrug*
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#609 [10:42] <Wug> NotiCon: it doesnt matter
#610 [10:43] <Wug> its a peculiarity of the map
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#616 [11:03] <jackm> need help to get my sons account back after it got hacked
#617 [11:06] <Morrolan> jackm - Simply use the "reset password" option to resend the password to your mai laccount.
#618 [11:06] <Morrolan> mail account*
#619 [11:06] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword <- that one
#620 [11:07] <Morrolan> Will send you a mail with a link where you can set a new password.
#621 [11:07] <jackm> sons email was hacked at same time now it redirects to wherever
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#623 [11:13] <jackm> sent 4 emails to mojang they have not replied to any
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#625 [11:20] <Morrolan> jackm - Use their support system and support a ticket then: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#626 [11:20] <Morrolan> Actually, there is no link to the contact formular, derp, let me try to find it for you.
#627 [11:21] <Morrolan> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new that's the formular.
#628 [11:21] <Morrolan> Fill it out, and don't forget to include your transaction ID. They'll then come back to you.
#629 [11:22] <Morrolan> Oh, and for the future, do NOT use the same password for the mail account as for any other online account.
#630 [11:22] <jackm> filled in 4 of these various days from sunday 12th with no reply to any
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#632 [11:23] <Morrolan> *sigh*, nothing we can do, none here is an employee of Mojang. You will have to wait for them to respond then.
#633 [11:23] <jackm> ok thank you for your time
#634 [11:23] <Morrolan> Also, spamming support tickets doesn't really help, believe me. You'll have sit it out I'm afraid. ;)
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#636 [11:23] <Morrolan> G'luck with the retrieval of the account.
#637 [11:23] <Trenbrous> I am have purchasing problem with minecraft
#638 [11:26] <Trenbrous> my cc comp has approved for online trans but ur server/ purchasing company keeps denying it or w/e
#639 [11:26] <Morrolan> I suggest you try to pay through PayPal using your credit card, that one is known to be more reliable.
#640 [11:27] <Trenbrous> tried pay pal also
#641 [11:27] <Trenbrous> but
#642 [11:27] <Omega_Guardian> I would figure I'd have the same problem if I tried to order anything outside of the US/Canada
#643 [11:27] <Trenbrous> apprently the 26.95 was charged
#644 [11:27] <Morrolan> Trenbrous - Chances are you credit card company is blocking the payment due to fraud prevention. Suggest you call them and ask them to allow international transfers-
#645 [11:28] <Morrolan> Oh, it was charged? Then you'll just ahve to wait a bit.
#646 [11:28] <Morrolan> It is known to take up to three days, so chances are you'll just have to wait a bit.
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#648 [11:28] <HT|Lukas> hello
#649 [11:28] <HT|Lukas> I'm getting Java connection reset problem
#650 [11:28] <HT|Lukas> http://nopaste.info/60a7aefc50.html
#651 [11:29] <Boreeas> HT|Lukas: You can ignore that
#652 [11:29] <Boreeas> You might want to give your server more RAM though
#653 [11:29] <HT|Lukas> well yes, it's just a test
#654 [11:29] <Trenbrous> i try to login on my appaerent account and it says login failed. and 3 days? ok
#655 [11:30] <HT|Lukas> could you please try to connect to it?
#656 [11:30] <Boreeas> HT|Lukas: IP?
#657 [11:30] <HT|Lukas> it's on it..
#658 [11:30] <Boreeas> Oh, I see
#659 [11:30] <Boreeas> !check 88.198.47.131
#660 [11:30] <Boreeas> Nope, not working
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#662 [11:31] <HT|Lukas> ok now?
#663 [11:31] <HT|Lukas> !check 88.198.47.131
#664 [11:31] <HT|Lukas> really?
#665 [11:31] <Boreeas> Hrm
#666 [11:31] <HT|Lukas> but players doesn't seem they can connect there
#667 [11:32] <Trenbrous> i stand corrected i was not billed
#668 [11:33] <HT|Lukas> !check 88.198.47.131
#669 [11:33] <Morrolan> Then my bets are on "blocked due to international transfer", call your credit card company and ask them to unlock it.
#670 [11:33] <Trenbrous> ok
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#672 [11:33] <Omega_Guardian> maybe just for the one transaction though, so they still block other international stuff for safety
#673 [11:34] <mmdawg1> Hello I sent a support ticket in yesterday and they have not emailed me back yet
#674 [11:35] <Morrolan> Omega_Guardian - Meh, as long as you are careful there shouldn't be any harm in having it unlocked permanently.
#675 [11:35] <Morrolan> mmdawg1 - How about waiting more than one day then? Especially considering that yesterday was Sunday?
#676 [11:36] <mmdawg1> Ok but someone told me 3 - 9 hours
#677 [11:36] <Morrolan> That _might_ be legit from Monday-Friday, and even then I doubt it to be honest. ^^
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#681 [11:54] <Trenbrous> yeah u were right its suspecting the purchase as fraud
#682 [11:54] <Trenbrous> so its denying it
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#685 [11:56] <kermi> I need help. Everytime I try and play minecraft, it shuts down and gives me this message: A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x77bc7945, pid=3984, tid=5692
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#687 [12:00] <Boreeas> kermi: Resintall java
#688 [12:01] <Boreeas> ??> kermi win/javara
#689 [12:01] <VoxelHead> kermi: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#690 [12:01] <VoxelHead> kermi: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#691 [12:04] <kermi> does it cost anything?
#692 [12:05] <kermi> what's the best place to download it?
#693 [12:06] <Boreeas> kermi: Java is free
#694 [12:06] <Boreeas> kermi: Only download java from it's official website, http://java.com
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#705 [13:36] <NotiCon> anyplace to get help with how to setup a sugar cane farm with the sugar cane harvester from the forestry mod?
#706 [13:36] <Boreeas> ??> NotiCon mods
#707 [13:36] <VoxelHead> NotiCon: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#708 [13:36] <VoxelHead> NotiCon: (mods) as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#709 [13:36] <NotiCon> ._.
#710 [13:37] <NotiCon> doesnt help me anything at all
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#717 [13:54] <reedlepee> Hi, I bought minecraft yesterday and have encountered the BWOD issue. I've updated my drivers, updated and reinstalled java, deleted and reinstalled minecraft bin files and I still haven't managed to start the game. Running out of fixes ... any help?
#718 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Give us a dxdiag?
#719 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> ??> reedlepee win/dxdiag
#720 [13:55] <VoxelHead> reedlepee: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#721 [13:55] <VoxelHead> reedlepee: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#722 [13:57] <reedlepee> http://pastebin.com/UWN8czFB
#723 [13:57] <reedlepee> thanks
#724 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> What Version of java are you running?
#725 [14:00] <reedlepee> the latest 7. something
#726 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Java 7's been known to be incompatible with minecraft. try uninstalling java completely use 6
#727 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> :j
#728 [14:01] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u30-download-1377142.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 30)
#729 [14:01] <reedlepee> ok will try that
#730 [14:04] <reedlepee> have to restart browsers so will be back once completed. thanks in meanwhile
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#733 [14:07] <bejoe905> ANyone neem help?
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#741 [14:30] <lemon-rev> nope
#742 [14:31] <frogaincia> Hello people (sorry I didn't take the time to read the rules) Can anyone help me please? I was working for over a month on a world in Single Player, and accidentally overwrote the file. can i get it back?
#743 [14:31] <lemon-rev> hm, how did you over ride it ?
#744 [14:32] <frogaincia> two days ago I copied the old one to my desktop and a few minutes ago I decided to do an update but then I saw the old backup on my desktop so I replaced the last saved world with the old backup
#745 [14:33] <MagiC3PO> Ctrl+Z
#746 [14:33] <lemon-rev> hm, and the old one totally over rode the newest one
#747 [14:33] <frogaincia> I went in Minecraft then I saw that I still had all the stuff in my "hand" (all the object e.g. iron, buckets and stuff) but my castle and everything was gone
#748 [14:33] <frogaincia> yea
#749 [14:34] <frogaincia> its really frustrating I worked so damn long on it
#750 [14:34] <lemon-rev> then what the the file you have atm is as it is, and cant be helpd
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#752 [14:35] <frogaincia> oh god cant it be restored or something with some indexing software built in in my Windows 7? like I can back up the folder? can I do that in Windows 7?
#753 [14:36] <frogaincia> and also isn't it saved anywhere else?
#754 [14:36] <lemon-rev> frogaincia you can back up the save file format i dont know how you do it now its imigrated inside the mc file now, but windows 7 it has nothing to do with it, unless you do a stupid restore point
#755 [14:39] <blink> >:[
#756 [14:39] <frogaincia> I overwrote it like ten minutes ago, when I opened it I saw everything was gone. does that mean that the screwed up file is written on the same sector or vanished the old sector and allocated new space to write it on?
#757 [14:40] <lemon-rev> hm, basicly the file you copyed over if it wasnt screwed up, is good and what ever was on that version is as it is
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#760 [14:42] <frogaincia> :( so it is really lost?
#761 [14:43] <lemon-rev> its really lost,
#762 [14:43] <frogaincia> thank you for your help
#763 [14:43] <lemon-rev> np
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#765 [14:54] <MagiC3PO> !login
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#774 [15:39] <lmh999999999> hello?
#775 [15:40] <lmh999999999> Can anyone help me?
#776 [15:40] <WugBot> lmh999999999: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
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#778 [15:41] <lmh999999999> Alright. Well, When I open minecraft ( The shortcut) It just gives ma a hs_err pid thing on my screen.
#779 [15:42] <lmh999999999> ?
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#781 [15:42] <lmh999999999> No help?
#782 [15:43] <Boreeas> lmh999999999: patience
#783 [15:43] <Boreeas> Q.Q
#784 [15:43] * Boreeas smacks VoxelHead
#784 [15:43] <clarjon1> lmh999999999: can you pastebin the data in the hs_err file to http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link? Also, please change your name to something with less nines in it, thanks.
#785 [15:43] <Boreeas> lol, clarjon1
#786 [15:43] <lmh999999999> Alright. Sorry. Just using my minecraft username.
#787 [15:43] <clarjon1> well
#788 [15:44] <Boreeas> lmh999999999: Please change your nick to something with a little less numbers
#789 [15:44] <clarjon1> that name will get people banned for helping you :P
#790 [15:44] <Boreeas> <.<
#791 [15:44] <Boreeas> >.>
#792 [15:44] <Boreeas> Someone does not know about /nick
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#794 [15:44] <lmh> ok, this better?
#795 [15:45] <clarjon1> much better
#796 [15:45] <Boreeas> Yes, thanks
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#798 [15:45] <lmh> http://pastebin.com/i4mFaYWQ
#799 [15:45] <lmh> there.
#800 [15:47] <lmh> It wont even let me download a new .minecraft.
#801 [15:47] <Boreeas> That's a broken Java installation
#802 [15:47] <Boreeas> You will need to reinstall Java
#803 [15:47] <lmh> I tried that, what version of vava do i need?
#804 [15:48] <lmh> java*
#805 [15:48] <Boreeas> 1.6_X
#806 [15:48] <Boreeas> I think 1.6_31, but it might have moved to higher numbers already
#807 [15:48] <Boreeas> First, make sure you unistalled any remaining Java installations
#808 [15:48] <lmh> yes, thats the one im getting.
#809 [15:49] <Boreeas> Then go to http://java.com and download the latest
#810 [15:53] <lmh> After I installed it and tried to open minecraft, I got http://pastebin.com/pCTzhvDS
#811 [15:57] <lmh> ?
#812 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall java completely from your system, you're using java 7 still
#813 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Reinstall 6
#814 [16:02] <lmh> Alright. Thanks so much.
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#829 [17:09] <minecraftbuilder> anyone know ay good mods?
#830 [17:09] <minecraftbuilder> *any
#831 [17:13] <Morrolan> Didn't try any gameplay mods in the last few months.
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#835 [17:25] <EngineerSentries> ...
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#838 [17:32] <Ruzuki> ok... I hope someone is around. =/
#839 [17:33] <Ruzuki> My minecraft keeps freezing up, and I have a brand new computer. Any tips on how to fix my preformance?
#840 [17:33] <Morrolan> Turning down view distance, setting graphics to fast.
#841 [17:33] <Morrolan> If neither helps, try a mod like optifine.
#842 [17:34] <Ruzuki> Thats much better, thanks. =D
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#844 [17:36] <MCDanny> hey guys
#845 [17:37] <MCDanny> who was the person yesterday who told my friend to install the newest graphics card driver? that didn´t help at all so do you have any other suggestions?
#846 [17:39] <MCDanny> hello...?
#847 [17:39] <Ruzuki> I just got here >.>
#848 [17:39] <Ruzuki> What is the problem?
#849 [17:41] <MCDanny> we restored a friend´s laptop and now minecraft suffers from huuuge fps lags
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#851 [17:41] <MCDanny> we installed the newest java 64bit and net framework and xna
#852 [17:41] <MCDanny> and yesterday the newest graphics card driver
#853 [17:41] <MCDanny> but it still lags like hell
#854 [17:42] <Ruzuki> Did you try turning down view distance and setting graphics to fast?
#855 [17:42] <MCDanny> yeah
#856 [17:42] <Ruzuki> that sounds like the problem I was having. Brand new computer, laggy and crashy minecraft
#857 [17:42] <MCDanny> didnt change anything
#858 [17:42] <Ruzuki> I dunno then. New to the game. =/
#859 [17:42] <MCDanny> his laptop is a very good strong one
#860 [17:43] <MCDanny> it handled minecraft perfectly with an hd texture pack(256x256) before the restore
#861 [17:43] <MCDanny> and now it cant handle mc at all
#862 [17:43] <MCDanny> but other games like battlefield and such run smoothly
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#865 [17:49] <MCDanny> ok has anyone else got something to say to my problem?
#866 [17:49] <MCDanny> we really wanna play on my server right now -.- we want to continue building our fortress !!
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#871 [17:53] <langkid1> MCDanny, hi
#872 [17:54] <langkid1> MCDanny, glad you stuck around, most people just get fed up and leave after 12 seconds
#873 [18:01] <MCDanny> :P
#874 [18:01] <MCDanny> i just want to help out a friend
#875 [18:02] <MCDanny> and it doesn´t annoy me,we´re playing bf3 at the moment and im just watching the chat when im dead
#876 [18:02] <MCDanny> so could you help us with our problem? ^^
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#878 [18:03] <langkid1> MCDanny, is your system 32bit or 64bit?
#879 [18:03] <langkid1> also net framework has nothing to do with minecraft, nor does xna
#880 [18:04] <MCDanny> his system is 64 bit
#881 [18:04] <langkid1> ok goooood
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#883 [18:10] <MCDanny> ok...?
#884 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> MCDanny - Dxdiag the computer for us
#885 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Betting it's either an optimus or an amd dynamic switchable graphics one
#886 [18:13] <MCDanny> dxdiag? someone told me direct x has nothing to do with minecraft
#887 [18:13] <MCDanny> he doesnt have dx installed
#888 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> dxdiag is integrated into windows, every windows machine has it installed
#889 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> What I'm interested in, is what dxdiag can give us, which is more information about the system, including what video card it is
#890 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> has*
#891 [18:14] <MCDanny> oh ok
#892 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Do you need instructions?
#893 [18:14] <MCDanny> no i can explain him how its done
#894 [18:14] <MCDanny> :D
#895 [18:15] <MCDanny> i know a bit about IT :P
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#897 [18:17] <MCDanny> its running now
#898 [18:17] <MCDanny> where do you want me to put up the log?
#899 [18:17] <MCDanny> or does irc have a file sharing function?
#900 [18:22] <MCDanny> hello?
#901 [18:22] <MCDanny> where do you want me to put it up????
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#903 [18:22] <Morrolan> MCDanny - www.pastebin.com , then give us the URL
#904 [18:23] <MCDanny> kk
#905 [18:23] <MCDanny> hold on a sec
#906 [18:24] <MCDanny> http://pastebin.com/dxQSsize
#907 [18:25] <Morrolan> " Dedicated Memory: 64 MB" Oh yikes, your GPU isn't really that awesome. D:
#908 [18:25] <MCDanny> not mine,HIS please ^^
#909 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - Scroll down to devices
#910 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> See: "Name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 325M "
#911 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> ie, this is a laptop with an integrated intel HD video card, and a dedicated nvidia card
#912 [18:26] <Morrolan> Oh, I see.
#913 [18:26] <Morrolan> "NVIDIA GeForce GT 325M"
#914 [18:26] <Magiobiwan> Oh god. I HATE switchable graphics
#915 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> otherwise, an nvidia Optimus system
#916 [18:26] <Morrolan> Mhm, got it, thanks. :)
#917 [18:27] <Magiobiwan> They NEVER work properly.
#918 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> Google for Optimus + minecraft.
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#920 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> Should be the first link for instructions on setting up minecraft on optimus
#921 [18:27] <MCDanny> ??
#922 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> MCDanny - Have him follow these instructions: http://josoft.net/post/2011/01/18/Minecraft-on-your-Nvidia-Optimus-laptop.aspx
#923 [18:27] <Morrolan> Do you just check every dxdiag whether there's an additional GPU installed?
#924 [18:27] <MCDanny> look guys we never did anything like this before the restore, it ran perfectly without any performance mods
#925 [18:28] <MCDanny> something is buggy
#926 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - When there's an Intel HD graphics card, yes
#927 [18:28] <MCDanny> clearly
#928 [18:28] <Morrolan> Or simply the ones where "other games run smoothly"
#929 [18:28] <Morrolan> Okay.
#930 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> And that, yes
#931 [18:28] <Magiobiwan> On my Mom's new laptop which has a Sandy Bridge, IE Integrated Graphics, and a nice AMD Radeon 6950 ( I think) Mobile chipset, I got fed up with it and went into the BIOS to set it to fixed.
#932 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> It runs 60 FPS on BF3, but not well on mincraft
#933 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Is usually what tips me off to optimus or switchable graphics
#934 [18:28] <Magiobiwan> As opposed to Dynamic, because it wouldn't freaking switch!
#935 [18:28] <Morrolan> Mhm, I see.
#936 [18:28] <MCDanny> hold hold on!!!
#937 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> MCDanny - You know IT, yes?
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#939 [18:29] <Magiobiwan> GreyVulpine, try having him select Java to use the NVIDIA GeForce one.
#940 [18:29] <MCDanny> look. we never had any issues regarding performance on minecraft before the restore
#941 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> MCDanny - Trust me, I know
#942 [18:29] <MCDanny> something must have went wrong because of the restore.
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#944 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> MCDanny - I've dealt with this before. Trust me on this
#945 [18:29] <MCDanny> before it,he had like 200 fps on mc
#946 [18:29] <MCDanny> now its about 10-20
#947 [18:29] <Morrolan> Trust him he's a doctor. Err.
#948 [18:29] <MCDanny> ^^
#949 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> MCDanny - His computer has two graphics cards, an integrated intel HD graphics, and a nvidia 325M graphics card
#950 [18:30] <MCDanny> ah i see
#951 [18:30] <MCDanny> what you mean
#952 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Usually, when games launch, the nvidia card will run, giving him better performance.
#953 [18:30] <MCDanny> you mean that mc uses the weak one
#954 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft runs under java, which java applications usually don't trip up the "Hi, I'm a game, please give me more power" switch
#955 [18:30] <MCDanny> and you want me to change it to the geforce 325m
#956 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Right
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#958 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Instructions on how to set up nvidia's Optimus control panel to switch minecraft from the intel to the nvidia card can be found here: http://josoft.net/post/2011/01/18/Minecraft-on-your-Nvidia-Optimus-laptop.aspx
#959 [18:31] <MCDanny> ok how do i do that o.O im not good at java stuff,all i can do is align more ram to mc and stuff like that
#960 [18:31] <MCDanny> alright
#961 [18:31] <MCDanny> ill do that via teamviewer
#962 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Follow that link's instructions. It details everything you need to know
#963 [18:31] <MCDanny> it might take a long time^^
#964 [18:32] <Magiobiwan> What I did for my Mom's laptop with an Intel HD 3000 and am AMD Radeon HD 6950m was tell the BIOS to use fixed mode, as opposed to Dynamic
#965 [18:32] <Morrolan> Downside is that it'll eat more power if you choose to always use the powerful GPU.
#966 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Just means it'll run off the dedicated, which draws more power, lessening battery life..
#967 [18:32] <Omega_Guardian> it should use less power when it's not needing it all I'd think
#968 [18:33] <Magiobiwan> Morrolan, I set the AMD Catalyst control center thign to switch EVERYTHING to the Integrated when on Battery
#969 [18:33] <Morrolan> Ah, that'll work I guess. :)
#970 [18:33] <Magiobiwan> and back tot he Radeon when on the Adapter
#971 [18:34] <MCDanny> hey then i have a question to you guys for me
#972 [18:34] <Magiobiwan> Go ahead and shoot.
#973 [18:35] <MCDanny> i have an amd ati radeon 6370m in my notebook and as far as i know from my old pc i can like overpower the card via the ccc but i cant find that option here. i´d like to do that like i did on my old pc which made it a gaming beast with one click ;P
#974 [18:36] <Magiobiwan> Laptops aren't as OCable as desktops
#975 [18:36] <Magiobiwan> mainly because of heat issues.
#976 [18:36] <Morrolan> Laptops tend to set stuff on fire even when not overclocked, I wouldn't dare overclocking mine. ^^
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#978 [18:37] <MCDanny> yeah ive heard that from my IT teacher last week aswell XD
#979 [18:37] <MCDanny> i asked him a similar question
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#981 [18:38] <MCDanny> "i wouldn´t recommend trying to overclock a notebook.. unless you want to have some serious issues" were his words :P
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#984 [18:45] <MCDanny> alright ive done everything in the guide but i cant see if it runs smoothly via teamviewer.. gotta wait till he gets back from his shower xD
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#986 [18:48] <Morrolan> Just check the FPS counter in the debug screen I'd say.
#987 [18:55] <MCDanny> oh damn
#988 [18:55] <MCDanny> didnt think about that
#989 [18:56] <MCDanny> xD
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#991 [18:57] <MCDanny> ok he got back,tried it and it works smoothly as before!
#992 [18:57] <MCDanny> thanks and a shall tell you a nice "thank you very much" from him
#993 [18:57] <MCDanny> :D
#994 [18:57] <MCDanny> good bye then. :)
#995 [18:57] <Morrolan> I'll tell Grey to add it to his "list of people whose day I made".
#996 [18:57] <Morrolan> Cya.
#997 [18:59] * GreyVulpine snrks
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#999 [19:04] <adampro326> Hi, if my computer completely crashed while i was hosting a multiplayer map, can that cause the map to create corrupted chunks?
#1000 [19:05] <clarjon1> mhm
#1001 [19:05] <adampro326> like it did, and I mean HUGE like it covered more than 20 chunks, it was like a hole border, a wide sea to one side and the region I had explored to the other
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#1003 [19:06] <adampro326> i tried MC region fixer, chunkster, but they don't appear to find any corrupted chunks at all.
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#1005 [19:18] <Morrolan> adampro326 - Try MCEdit's "repair chunks" tool. If that one doesn't help either you're out of luck I'm afraid.
#1006 [19:18] <adampro326> MCEdit's runs on 1.1?
#1007 [19:19] <Morrolan> There haven't been any changes to the map format recently, so it should.
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#1009 [19:20] <Morrolan> The repair option is under menu -> world info -> repair regions.
#1010 [19:20] <Morrolan> Or ctrl-i -> repair regions
#1011 [19:20] <adampro326> alright i'll give it a try, brb, thxs btw!
#1012 [19:20] <Morrolan> G'luck with your world.
#1013 [19:21] <Morrolan> Worst case you'll just have to delete these chunks and let them regenerate.
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#1015 [19:25] <MCDanny> hi again xD
#1016 [19:26] <MCDanny> i just noticed a problem i was having the whole time but i forgot to ask you about it
#1017 [19:26] <MCDanny> sometimes when i go fullscreen by f11 the game crashes
#1018 [19:26] <MCDanny> but not if i go fullscreen in window mode which i do not like : /
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#1022 [19:39] <I3loodDevilz> anyone here
#1023 [19:40] <mickster04> yes
#1024 [19:41] <I3loodDevilz> Looking for a plug-ins expert to donate there time to help me set-up my MC server with plug-ins. It be greatly appreciated
#1025 [19:42] <DreadLindwyrm> You'd be better trying #smp
#1026 [19:42] <I3loodDevilz> all right thx
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#1037 [20:14] <adampro326> Morrolan you still there?
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#1039 [20:14] <Morrolan> Nearly asleep but yes.
#1040 [20:14] <adampro326> hehe
#1041 [20:14] <adampro326> well
#1042 [20:15] <adampro326> I tried the program, got it working and went to the chunks and all, but the problem is, none of these programs are detecting any "bad" chunks.
#1043 [20:15] <adampro326> they don't find any bad chunks, any error in the regions or anything
#1044 [20:15] <Morrolan> Ah, that is inconvenient. :S
#1045 [20:16] <Morrolan> Can't think of anything but simply deleting that chunk and letting it regenerate.
#1046 [20:16] <Omega_Guardian> maybe you could delete the chunks that seem wrong
#1047 [20:16] <Omega_Guardian> the gamne should re-generate them
#1048 [20:16] <adampro326> tried that, theere are over 50 chunks that are wrong
#1049 [20:16] <adampro326> when they regenerated, half of the chunks were below sea, the rest had nothing to do wiht the landscape :P
#1050 [20:17] <Morrolan> Oh, yikes.
#1051 [20:17] <adampro326> it is as if the map generator just messed up the borders of the region i had explored
#1052 [20:17] <Morrolan> You could ask Wug if he's got some time to take a look, I think he used to be into fixing worlds. *shrug*
#1053 [20:17] <Morrolan> I for one will be off for today, g'night.
#1054 [20:17] <adampro326> good night thxs for the help :)
#1055 [20:18] <adampro326> Wug are you on?
#1056 [20:19] <DreadLindwyrm> Has your seed changed? Or have you changed versions of the game with that world?
#1057 [20:20] <Wug> I am now
#1058 [20:20] <Wug> but its something I cant fix
#1059 [20:20] <mickster04> Wug: you start your 'time of the month' on demand?
#1060 [20:21] <Wug> this happens when you have a crash or something and level.dat gets destroyed
#1061 [20:21] <Wug> the game can regenerate it but it will not have the same seed and the terrain wont match up
#1062 [20:21] <|Anthony|> i can't seem to get a mob farm/grinder to actually spawn any mobs
#1063 [20:21] <Wug> |Anthony|: dont stand in it
#1064 [20:22] <|Anthony|> lol
#1065 [20:22] <Wug> mobs wont spawn close to the player
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#1067 [20:22] <|Anthony|> is that the most common mistake?
#1068 [20:22] <Wug> mickster04: ಠ_ಠ
#1069 [20:22] <Wug> |Anthony|: there are a few things people do wrong
#1070 [20:22] <mickster04> Wug: adampro326> Wug are you on?
#1071 [20:22] <Wug> mob farming is more of an art than a science
#1072 [20:22] <|Anthony|> lol... well i doubt that it is it ;)
#1073 [20:22] <mickster04> Wug: to which you responded 'i am now' :)
#1074 [20:23] <Wug> the best thing you can really do is look up youtube tutorials
#1075 [20:23] <Omega_Guardian> one server I was on the admins said they had to regen the map like a half dozen times to get one that wasn't mostly water
#1076 [20:23] <|Anthony|> but... is there a certain material or location that they need to be?
#1077 [20:23] <Wug> mickster04: in case you hadnt noticed he was talking about the context of me sitting at my computer
#1078 [20:23] <Omega_Guardian> a map size area with 90% water is useless for multiplayer :P
#1079 [20:23] <mickster04> Wug: well yes but i find it amusing to take things out of context sometimes
#1080 [20:23] <Wug> Omega_Guardian: I hate when they do that
#1081 [20:23] <DreadLindwyrm> Depends if you want to play underwater trench warfare.
#1082 [20:23] <Wug> my solution is usually nether portals
#1083 [20:24] <Wug> and lots and lots of minecart rails
#1084 [20:26] <Omega_Guardian> wonder if water breathing time is any better nowadays?
#1085 [20:26] <Omega_Guardian> last time I played it was still like 20 seconds max and you'd be dying
#1086 [20:29] <|Anthony|> Wug, here is a screenshot of one design i'm testing:
#1087 [20:29] <|Anthony|> http://goo.gl/ai7u8
#1088 [20:29] <|Anthony|> notice the mobs have spawned outside of that area
#1089 [20:29] <Wug> what do you do when you dont want mobs to spawn in places ;D
#1090 [20:30] <|Anthony|> add light
#1091 [20:30] <Wug> yep
#1092 [20:30] <Wug> so you have 2 options
#1093 [20:30] <Wug> make the inside of the trap permadark and use it only during the day
#1094 [20:30] <Wug> or light up everything
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#1100 [20:34] <napoleon> everytime i play minecraft for 2-5 minutes I suddenly get a black screen. how do i fix this?
#1101 [20:35] <Wug> its probably a memory issue
#1102 [20:35] <Wug> do you have a 64 bit computer?
#1103 [20:35] <napoleon> no
#1104 [20:36] <mickster04> napoleon: have you got swap or paging file turned on on your system
#1105 [20:36] <napoleon> ummm i don't think so.
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#1107 [20:36] <|Anthony|> Wug, so this is the actual mob farm/grinder i built... but it doesn't work so i tried that other bigger design. http://goo.gl/rsFIy http://goo.gl/sQHjy
#1108 [20:37] <mickster04> napoleon: well if it is a memory issue and you turn that on, your pc should in theory use the hdd to store some RAM data, therefore you won't get a memory issue
#1109 [20:37] <napoleon> mickster04 how would i know is i have that turned on?
#1110 [20:37] <Wug> mobs wont spawn on certain blocks, including transparent ones, non solid ones, half blocks, and liquids
#1111 [20:37] <mickster04> napoleon: which oS?
#1112 [20:37] <napoleon> windows xp
#1113 [20:37] <Wug> they also tend not to jump large distances unless pushed
#1114 [20:38] <DreadLindwyrm> |Anthony|: Somehow it doesn't look tall enough.
#1115 [20:39] <|Anthony|> the interior of that structure is 5x7x2
#1116 [20:39] <mickster04> sos control panel > system > "advanced" tab>performance>Advanced tab again, then see paging, it should be on system managed or whatever the equivalent is
#1117 [20:39] <|Anthony|> grass blocks 1 thick
#1118 [20:39] <DreadLindwyrm> How close are you staying to it when you have it running?
#1119 [20:39] <mickster04> napoleon: ignore the SOS, not sure what'thats there for
#1120 [20:40] <|Anthony|> meh... on top, in the field several yards away, on a journey
#1121 [20:40] <|Anthony|> any distance really
#1122 [20:40] <DreadLindwyrm> If you're too close (I think 24 blocks) the mobs won't spawn.
#1123 [20:40] <napoleon> ok thanks. i will try that and see if that works.
#1124 [20:41] <DreadLindwyrm> If you're too far away (several chunks - basically if it doesn't load the chunk) they won't spawn either.
#1125 [20:42] <|Anthony|> so there is no minimum size room they need?
#1126 [20:42] <Wug> |Anthony|: mob grinders that are really effective are typically small, located near the bottom of the level, and a large area around them is totally lit
#1127 [20:42] <Wug> they tend to use lava to kill mobs because it is faster than drowning or other methods
#1128 [20:42] <Wug> however you may experience success with a crushing trap that uses pistons
#1129 [20:43] <|Anthony|> was going to farm some xp before i added the grinder parts
#1130 [20:43] <Omega_Guardian> saw one a few months after, even after notch nerfed mob drops, it still dropped more then 1 item per second I think
#1131 [20:43] <|Anthony|> i can't even get them to spawn
#1132 [20:43] <Wug> you might also experiment with using pistons to move mobs through the trap, which might help bypass things like the fact that they don't like to move on their own
#1133 [20:43] <Wug> mobs will spawn anywhere within about 3 blocks of the ground in the dark
#1134 [20:44] <Wug> so optimally, you'd want a floor every 5 levels or so
#1135 [20:44] <|Anthony|> hmm
#1136 [20:44] <Wug> also, standing as close to the trap as the pictures you took, you are too close and nothing will spawn
#1137 [20:45] <|Anthony|> was that close for the photo
#1138 [20:46] <Wug> the point im trying to make is if you're standing there waiting, you are too close
#1139 [20:46] <Wug> one thing you may find very useful for an experience trap is to use a spawner
#1140 [20:46] <Wug> they are slower but will spawn regardless of distance
#1141 [20:46] <Wug> I made a pretty mean spider spawn trap once
#1142 [20:48] <DreadLindwyrm> Another possibility is a mob tower going up as high as possible with small drops that funnels the mobs to a dead end that you can attack into safely - possibly a 3 deep pit beneath your feet - just watch out for endermen.
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#1148 [21:51] <adampro326> is generating a new world, copying your region files over it a good alternative for when you have bad chunks that none of the available programs seem to fix/find?
#1149 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> No, because you'll be moving over bad chunks onto a world that doesn't make the seed you generated it with
#1150 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> s/make/match
#1151 [21:54] <adampro326> doesn't make sense then, I just tried it, and it worked >.>
#1152 [21:57] <adampro326> the bad chunks did not cause lag, or any trouble, or anything, in fact none of the programs to fix it (chunkster, region fix, MCEdit) found any bad/error chunks.
#1153 [21:57] <adampro326> but they were just there, there were over 30 bad chunks, and it seems to have happened after my pc crashed while hosting the server.
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#1155 [21:59] <BroBuzz> Got a question about enchanting stuff with protection.
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#1157 [22:00] <BroBuzz> Does armor protection max out at a certain point with Protection enchants?
#1158 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean?
#1159 [22:02] <BroBuzz> I heard some people say that you don't need Protection 4 on every armor piece because they say "two Protection 4 armor pieces will max out the EPF (Whatever that is)"
#1160 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that's a good question. I don't know.
#1161 [22:06] <BroBuzz> Danr
#1162 [22:07] <BroBuzz> I was hoping someone would be able to answer my question
#1163 [22:09] <Omega_Guardian> worst team ever :P they keep moving so I can't hit them with healing dart...then when I die, someone stole my medic device and sold it :P
#1164 [22:19] <|Kiikun|> Pubestep! http://loldwell.com/
#1165 [22:20] * |Kiikun| wubwubwubwub
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#1166 [22:23] <langkid1> wtf...
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#1168 [22:25] <|Kiikun|> langkid1: thats my general reaction to half of caldwell's stuff. usually followed by a laugh
#1169 [22:26] <ITSHAIRTIME> My friend is having trouble while we are playing MP he is running the server and playing on the same computer but his screen occasionally turns a solid color its been different each time and locks up and has to restart his computer is there something we can do?
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#1171 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> First thought, video card overheating/video driver issue
#1172 [22:27] <|Kiikun|> is his computer overheating?
#1173 [22:27] <Eden> f
#1174 [22:27] <ITSHAIRTIME> no it isnt
#1175 [22:27] <|Kiikun|> Eden: g!
#1176 [22:27] <Eden> can anyone help me with my problem?
#1177 [22:28] <|Kiikun|> :ask > Eden
#1178 [22:28] <WugBot> Eden: (ask) Don't ask to ask, just ask without asking to ask before asking.
#1179 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> ITSHAIRTIME - Do you know how hot the video card is running?
#1180 [22:28] <Eden> k
#1181 [22:28] <Eden> My minecraft crashes every five minutes without any reasons
#1182 [22:29] <ITSHAIRTIME> not sure exactly but he keeps track of how hot his video card is most if not all the time
#1183 [22:29] <Eden> I only have 1 gb ram, I'm pretty sure that it's enough
#1184 [22:29] <|Kiikun|> Eden: thers obviously a reason even if you dont know it...
#1185 [22:29] <|Kiikun|> :lessram
#1186 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> ITSHAIRTIME - Have him update his video card's drivers. if he's overclocking his video card at all, undo it.
#1187 [22:30] * |Kiikun| pokes GreyVulpine for the ling
#1187 [22:30] <Eden> well, I have a ATI raedon x300 video card if that helps
#1188 [22:30] <|Kiikun|> *link
#1189 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> Erm
#1190 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#1191 [22:30] <Eden> I think i did updated it...
#1192 [22:30] <ITSHAIRTIME> we just updated the drivers and hes not ocing it and it didnt work
#1193 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft reserves up to a gig of RAM for itself
#1194 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> ITSHAIRTIME - If it's going to a solid color on his screen, I'm betting it's a heat problem, or the card is suffering some sort of hardware problem
#1195 [22:31] <|Kiikun|> Eden: follow the instructions in the link from grey and put 800M in the two spots it says 256M
#1196 [22:31] <Eden> allright
#1197 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Neither of which, we can really help wtih.
#1198 [22:31] <Eden> thanks, tho
#1199 [22:32] * |Kiikun| looks in topic....
#1199 [22:32] <|Kiikun|> whats with the $ in Minecraft?
#1200 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> I goofed when typing minecraft.
#1201 [22:33] <DreadLindwyrm> Perhaps it should be fixed at some stage.
#1202 [22:33] <|Kiikun|> .... thats some goof.
#1203 [22:33] <DreadLindwyrm> Perhaps not.
#1204 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> !topic del 1
#1205 [22:33] <ITSHAIRTIME> wouldnt all those things like bad hardware and heating issues cause other games to not work properly? minecraft is the only game he is having trouble with
#1206 [22:33] <Eden> you dun goofed up
#1207 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> ITSHAIRTIME - Does he have any other games that run off of OpenGL?
#1208 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> I'll bet you the answer is a resounding, No.
#1209 [22:34] <Eden> wut, no
#1210 [22:34] * |Kiikun| doesnt even remember any non-indie games that run on opengl that are newer than UT...
#1210 [22:35] <Eden> you ever heard of 'Ace of Spades'?
#1211 [22:35] <|Kiikun|> nope!
#1212 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> That silly FPS/minecraft-like game?
#1213 [22:35] <Eden> yes
#1214 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Didn't do anything for me.
#1215 [22:35] <Eden> hrm?
#1216 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Didn't like it.
#1217 [22:36] <Eden> which version did you tried out?
#1218 [22:36] <Eden> .70?
#1219 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Was a while ago.
#1220 [22:37] <Eden> ah
#1221 [22:40] <Eden> no dice
#1222 [22:40] <Eden> it crashed, again
#1223 [22:42] <|Kiikun|> anything come up in the console that looked like an error?
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#1225 [22:42] <Eden> shit, I closed it while taking a screenshot
#1226 [22:42] <Eden> drup
#1227 [22:42] <Eden> mfw
#1228 [22:43] <Eden> hold on
#1229 [22:43] <|Kiikun|> im thinking it might just be 'too out of memory to actually report it'...
#1230 [22:44] <Eden> here's the error
#1231 [22:44] <Eden> http://pastebin.com/jAzxPatT
#1232 [22:44] <Eden> what do you mean by updating the client?
#1233 [22:45] <|Kiikun|> erm.. that an old autoreply...
#1234 [22:45] <|Kiikun|> but.. its still triggering..
#1235 [22:45] <Eden> ah
#1236 [22:46] <clarjon1> Could be too old of a version of opengl shipped with his video card drivers
#1237 [22:46] <|Kiikun|> Eden: try updating your video drivers.
#1238 [22:46] <Eden> maybe
#1239 [22:47] <|Kiikun|> i think its the opengl driver dying and dragging the game kicking and screamign with it.
#1240 [22:47] <Eden> probably
#1241 [22:47] <|Kiikun|> or youre runnign out of memory :P
#1242 [22:47] <Eden> but, strangely enough, it can run DoW:DC
#1243 [22:48] <|Kiikun|> try with the memmory set less... like 650M
#1244 [22:49] <Eden> I'm going to update my video card drivers if that'll work
#1245 [22:50] <|Kiikun|> yes, try that first.
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#1247 [22:53] <BroBuzz> Grr, I've Google searched my question yet no answer.
#1248 [22:54] <|Kiikun|> BroBuzz: im trying to find out. trying to avoid going code-diving at the moment though
#1249 [22:54] <BroBuzz> Awesome, thanks.
#1250 [22:54] <|Kiikun|> i THINK all protections stack on different items anyway... dont think theres a coded limit.
#1251 [22:55] <|Kiikun|> or if Wug wants to codedive :P i dont have the MCP on this comp
#1252 [23:01] <Eden> I tried again, but it went lol
#1253 [23:01] <Eden> http://screensnapr.com/v/Am0HhK.png
#1254 [23:02] <Eden> gha, I can live without minecraft on my laptop
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