#MinecraftHelp > 2012-02-22
#1 [00:04] <Magiobiwan> Is the server visible on one of them?
#2 [00:05] <Magiobiwan> You need to have one in game, with the other using the Join Game option.
#3 [00:08] <AndIrc> server visable.. and that is what I've been doing both phones
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#5 [00:10] <Magiobiwan> What version are they running?
#6 [00:11] <Magiobiwan> Do they both have 0.2.1?
#7 [00:11] <Magiobiwan> iOS didn't need the 0.2.1, because it didn't have the bad bugs.
#8 [00:14] <outsomnia> so
#9 [00:14] <AndIrc> 0.2.0
#10 [00:14] <outsomnia> [19:34] <outsomnia> I get these wierd blacked out areas and black boxes and such whenever I run java things (example: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39166337/javaporbwems.png), what do I do to fix this?
#11 [00:15] <Wug> outsomnia: I havent the faintest idea. have you tried updating java
#12 [00:15] <outsomnia> yes, and reinstalling
#13 [00:15] <Wug> it could just be a poorly written program
#14 [00:15] <Wug> does it happen for all java programs or just that one
#15 [00:16] <outsomnia> all .jar things
#16 [00:16] <Wug> does minecraft do it?
#17 [00:16] <outsomnia> ironically, no
#18 [00:16] <Wug> can you launch one manually and see if you get any error messages
#19 [00:20] <Magiobiwan> AndIrc: Get the update for both of them. 0.2.0 for Android had MAJOR issues.
#20 [00:28] <AndIrc> according to market..0.2.0 is the newest for Droid
#21 [00:29] <Magiobiwan> Really?
#22 [00:29] <Magiobiwan> One sec.
#23 [00:31] <Magiobiwan> Edgar model of phones are they?
#24 [00:32] <Magiobiwan> What*
#25 [00:32] <AndIrc> htc insipre...htc rezound
#26 [00:32] <AndIrc> p.s. the rezound is freakin awesome
#27 [00:32] <Magiobiwan> The resound isn't on the officially tested list.
#28 [00:32] <AndIrc> well now its not awesome
#29 [00:34] <Magiobiwan> Well, I don't see it on the unofficial list either
#30 [00:34] <AndIrc> I wish they had a tech support anything..
#31 [00:37] <Magiobiwan> The problem with Android is how many different devices there are
#32 [00:38] <AndIrc> yea I know...the rezound is new also
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#34 [00:39] <Magiobiwan> Okay. That's probably why it isn't listed.
#35 [00:40] <Magiobiwan> But, there exists a 0,
#36 [00:40] <willyg420> by the way my name just changed
#37 [00:40] <Magiobiwan> 0.2.1 update on the market.
#38 [00:40] <Magiobiwan> For Android.
#39 [00:40] <willyg420> ok ill check it
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#41 [00:46] <D4rkGazio> Hey
#42 [00:46] <D4rkGazio> Is there going to be a ds version of mc
#43 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> Not that we've heard
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#45 [00:50] <Magiobiwan> That would be interesting to see.
#46 [00:54] <D4rkGazio> It seems that Minecraft will not be coming to Playstation after all. In a business meeting including Daniel Kaplan, it was confirmed that there were "no plans" to bring the indie title to PS Vita (Sony's handheld equivalent to the Nintendo DS), despite overwhelming success on the Sony handheld, Xperia.
#47 [00:54] <D4rkGazio> Minecraft - Pocket Edition launched on Xperia Play last summer and quickly became the Android Market's most worldwide-downloaded app. Approximately 8500 people have played the game on the device since its unveiling. The recent Survival Mode update to the game makes Pocket Edition more of an action-oriented experience, with health bars, weapons and animals included, as well as the addition of...
#48 [00:55] <D4rkGazio> ...more blocks from the PC version of the game.
#49 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> Let's see the specs of the Nintendo DS, shall we?
#50 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> 32 bit ARM946E-S main CPU; 67 MHz clock speed.
#51 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> q
#52 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> 32 bit ARM7TDMI coprocessor; 33 MHz clock speed.
#53 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> RAM: 4 MB of mobile RAM
#54 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I don't think that'll handle minecraft
#55 [00:56] <D4rkGazio> Well 3ds
#56 [00:56] <D4rkGazio> Not ds
#57 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> Fine, 16 megs of RAM instead of 4
#58 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> It is very unlikely that minecraft will be ported to the DS.
#59 [00:58] <D4rkGazio> No actually
#60 [00:58] <D4rkGazio> It has 3 ram
#61 [00:58] <D4rkGazio> in 3ds
#62 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> That's great. Yes, the DS will surely run Minecraft then. </sarcasm>
#63 [00:59] <Wug> I dont think your argument holds up when you suggest that it has less ram
#64 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> On a whole 133 MHz ARM9 ?
#65 [00:59] <Wug> you might want to consider a different strategy
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#67 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> In the meantime, minecraft on both Android and iOS, require iOS 3.2 and Android 2.2 or later. The iphone 3gs for instance, has a 600 MHz ARM chip, and 256 megs of RAM.
#68 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> The Xperia Play™, runs at a gigahertz, and has 512 megs of RAM
#69 [01:04] <Magiobiwan> MCPE runs not so great on the 3GS
#70 [01:05] <Magiobiwan> The 4S runs at a GHz Dual core an has 512 Mega of ram
#71 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> So I very highly doubt the 3ds will have any chance of running the mobile/portable edition of minecraft
#72 [01:05] <Magiobiwan> Yeah.
#73 [01:05] <Magiobiwan> 3DS is a little weak.
#74 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> Just a tad.
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#77 [01:17] <cole36912> How can i make a local server?
#78 [01:18] <cole36912> ;search local server
#79 [01:18] <WugBot> No matches for "local server".
#80 [01:18] <cole36912> ??local server
#81 [01:18] <cole36912> ?? local server
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#85 [01:22] <cole36912> hello?
#86 [01:24] <sugoi> cole36912: hi
#87 [01:24] <sugoi> sup
#88 [01:24] <sugoi> cole36912: you download the minecraft server, run it, and connect to the ip at which it is running (port 24454)
#89 [01:25] <cole36912> port 24454?
#90 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> 25565
#91 [01:26] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: i felt like that was wrong, thanks - i was looking it up
#92 [01:26] <sugoi> mine are all custom, so i forget
#93 [01:26] <sugoi> :)
#94 [01:26] <cole36912> ok
#95 [01:26] <cole36912> but the internal ip?
#96 [01:27] <sugoi> cole36912: depends what ip your router assigns the machine where you are running the server
#97 [01:28] <sugoi> cole36912: or are you asking if you use the internal ip, to that, yes
#98 [01:28] <cole36912> yes
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#100 [01:28] <cole36912> then anyone on the wifi can connect?
#101 [01:29] <sugoi> cole36912: yes
#102 [01:29] <cole36912> ok
#103 [01:29] <sugoi> cole36912: and if you forward the port to the right machine, anyone outside too
#104 [01:29] <sugoi> "the port" = 25565
#105 [01:29] <sugoi> or whichever you configure it to use
#106 [01:29] <cole36912> ok
#107 [01:29] <cole36912> ty
#108 [01:30] <sugoi> cole36912: oh
#109 [01:30] <cole36912> ?
#110 [01:30] <sugoi> cole36912: note that if you are using the default port, the client doesn't have to specify it
#111 [01:30] <sugoi> e.g. 192.168.1.10
#112 [01:30] <sugoi> same as: 192.168.1.10:25565
#113 [01:30] <cole36912> yeah
#114 [01:31] <sugoi> just keep that in mind,if you ever want to run a server on a non-default port
#115 [01:31] <cole36912> but 104.34.34.3 is not the same as 104.34.34.3:25566 on minecraft
#116 [01:32] <sugoi> well no
#117 [01:32] <sugoi> it's not :)
#118 [01:37] <D4rkGazio> Hey guys
#119 [01:37] <D4rkGazio> Do you know why
#120 [01:37] <D4rkGazio> this is happening
#121 [01:37] <D4rkGazio> http://minestatus.net/23106-d4rknovacraft
#122 [01:37] <D4rkGazio> i have voterfier
#123 [01:37] <D4rkGazio> and added it to my server
#124 [01:37] <D4rkGazio> but it's not showing how many users i have on my server -.-
#125 [01:48] <sugoi> voterfier? mod?
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#128 [02:20] <sugoi> where are the pre-releases versions of the the client/server?
#129 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> ?? snapshot
#130 [02:21] <VoxelHead> snapshot: Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w07b/minecraft.jar
#131 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Also, check mojang.com for their blog, snapshots are there
#132 [02:30] <sugoi> ah, mojang.com -- i forget about that one and keep checking minecraft.net
#133 [02:32] <Grim_Reaper> Or here http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history/Development_versions
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#135 [03:46] <D4rkGazio> will end dragons
#136 [03:46] <D4rkGazio> *enderdragons have there own sound"?
#137 [03:49] <auscompgeek> don't they already?
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#141 [03:56] <D4rkGazio> Nope?
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#151 [04:27] <CenTuy> hi is there someone
#152 [04:29] <Wug> I'll tell you the same thing here that I did there
#153 [04:29] <Wug> :scam
#154 [04:29] <WugBot> scam: Do not buy minecraft from anywhere except http://minecraft.net There is a high probability that the gift code you purchase will later be disabled.
#155 [04:29] <WugBot> scam: This scam is possible because it is possible to perform a chargeback on the payment made for the gift code. This results in the money being transferred back into the buyers account and Mojang disabling the gift code.
#156 [04:32] <CenTuy> but i want to be premium
#157 [04:32] <CenTuy> what shall i do
#158 [04:32] <Wug> then buy it from minecraft.net
#159 [04:32] <CenTuy> but i dont have any prepaid card
#160 [04:32] <Wug> you might be able to get your money back on the ither side somehow
#161 [04:32] <Wug> do you have a credit card or a paypal account
#162 [04:32] <CenTuy> but i have bought it with paysafecrad you know
#163 [04:33] <Wug> there are no authorized resellers for minecraft
#164 [04:33] <Wug> you got it from someone else, and it turns out they scammed you
#165 [04:33] <CenTuy> ohh but how can i buy minecraft form the site i have no prepaid card yor paypal -.- so i have bought it with paysafe from gameladen
#166 [04:34] <Wug> you dont need a prepaid credit card
#167 [04:34] <Wug> any credit card will do
#168 [04:34] <CenTuy> yes but i have not one xD
#169 [04:35] <CenTuy> thats it
#170 [04:35] <Wug> you can create a paypal account
#171 [04:35] <CenTuy> so i have bought it with paysafe
#172 [04:35] <CenTuy> yes but how to pay it
#173 [04:35] <Wug> im not sure. paypal can work in a number of different ways
#174 [04:35] <Wug> you can make it draw money from your bank account
#175 [04:36] <CenTuy> but i dont know if my dad will accept it
#176 [04:36] <Wug> its his choice
#177 [04:37] <Wug> you can ask someone else with a credit card or paypal account to buy it for you
#178 [04:37] <CenTuy> hmm.. yes i can do it
#179 [04:37] <CenTuy> but what shall i do now
#180 [04:37] <CenTuy> shall i wait until tommorw mybe my account will ne premium
#181 [04:37] <Wug> make every effort to get your money back
#182 [04:38] <Wug> I doubt it will become premium on its own again
#183 [04:38] <CenTuy> my friend has bought minecraft form gameldaen too and he is premium
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#185 [04:38] <Wug> maybe he got lucky
#186 [04:38] <Wug> or maybe his account just hasnt been charged back yet
#187 [04:39] <CenTuy> ohh but he he has his account for quite some time
#188 [04:39] <CenTuy> longer thant i and he rated me to buy it from gameladen
#189 [04:40] <CenTuy> i´m very sad
#190 [04:41] <Wug> try to get a refund and get it from minecraft.net somehow
#191 [04:41] <CenTuy> i will phone gameladen at 12 am and then i will try to refund it
#192 [04:42] <CenTuy> theq open at 12 am
#193 [04:42] <CenTuy> are there chances to get antother code ?
#194 [04:43] <Wug> dont try from there
#195 [04:43] <CenTuy> why?
#196 [04:43] <Wug> because the same thing might happen
#197 [04:43] <CenTuy> i will try to get another code from then
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#199 [04:44] <CenTuy> yes but how to do it taht i will get the code frome majoang
#200 [04:44] <Wug> mojang made minecraft
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#202 [04:44] <CenTuy> yes i know
#203 [04:44] <Wug> mojang makes money by selling minecraft
#204 [04:44] <CenTuy> yes ;D
#205 [04:44] <watnoufrank> who is familiar with servers and plugins????
#206 [04:44] <Wug> that other website looks like it makes money by buying codes, reselling them, and doing chargebacks
#207 [04:45] <Wug> :bukkit > watnoufrank
#208 [04:45] <WugBot> watnoufrank: (bukkit) #minecrafthelp does not support bukkit. It you are having issues with it, join #bukkit. If you're having issues with a specific plugin, it might have its own channel. If you're unsure, join #bukkit.
#209 [04:45] <watnoufrank> thanks
#210 [04:46] <CenTuy> how can I get the money from gameladen and bring back from minecraft.net
#211 [04:46] <Wug> CenTuy: I'm not sure you can. if it really is a scam then getting it back will be very difficult
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#213 [04:47] <Wug> napoleon: #bukkit
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#215 [04:48] <CenTuy> but i thing it will be a error because gameladen is selling lot of games at all my other firend who had bought minecraft throug gameladen are premium and i not -.-
#216 [04:48] <auscompgeek> Wug: I see you have a similar script to what I have
#217 [04:49] <Wug> auscompgeek: actually, its something wugbot does
#218 [04:49] <auscompgeek> oh. nice.
#219 [04:50] <newster> good day Could I ask you please when it was registered Newster account?
#220 [04:51] <Wug> We can't check when an account was registered
#221 [04:51] <Wug> ;hp newster
#222 [04:51] <WugBot> newster has paid for minecraft.
#223 [04:51] <Wug> the account is premium though
#224 [04:52] <newster> Date of registration can not find?
#225 [04:52] <Wug> nope, we don't have access to that stuff
#226 [04:53] <newster> I suspect that my nick was stolen
#227 [04:53] <Wug> :resetpass
#228 [04:53] <WugBot> resetpass: You can reset the password for your minecraft account using the following page: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#229 [04:53] <newster> Where do I write? Who has access?
#230 [04:54] <Wug> if you think your account was stolen, use that page to reset your password
#231 [04:55] <newster> I was talking with a friend on account Minecraft and he registered yesterday at about herself under my nick.
#232 [04:58] <newster> pls help
#233 [05:01] <CenTuy> i´m very sad -.-"
#234 [05:02] <auscompgeek> newster: we cannot help with identity theft, unfortunately.
#235 [05:02] <newster> Please write an email to someone where you solve problems with the account
#236 [05:11] <newster> Where I can help with identity theft?
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#238 [05:12] <tyteen4a03> newster: IIRC, you cannot prove that your friend was registering a minecraft account under your name in order to benefit from your social status or to gain resources in an unauthorized manner, therefore I wouldn't really count it as identity theft
#239 [05:13] <Narusuji> Does anyone know why I get a black screen? I dont have any mods installed or anything.
#240 [05:13] <tyteen4a03> Narusuji: Do you have Java 6 installed?
#241 [05:14] <Narusuji> i had Java 6, but now i have java 7
#242 [05:14] <tyteen4a03> Narusuji: uninstall java 7, reinstall java 6
#243 [05:14] <Narusuji> ok
#244 [05:14] <newster> Where should I write to me at least find out the date of account registration?
#245 [05:14] <tyteen4a03> newster: Unless you take it to the court and the court requires Mojang to provide such information, there is no way of doing so
#246 [05:15] <Narusuji> what version? 32 or 64 bit? (my windows is 64 bit)
#247 [05:15] <tyteen4a03> Narusuji: 64bit
#248 [05:15] <Narusuji> okay
#249 [05:17] <Narusuji> Tried opening minecraft, still the same.
#250 [05:17] <tyteen4a03> Narusuji: has MC worked before?
#251 [05:17] <newster> Email to Mojang for more information by chance someone does not?
#252 [05:18] <Narusuji> yes, but on another windows (32 bit)
#253 [05:18] <tyteen4a03> Narusuji: are you saying that MC doesn't run on your current computer?
#254 [05:18] <Narusuji> i just had lots of junk on my hard drive so I installed everything again but 64 bit because i have 4gb ram.
#255 [05:18] <Narusuji> and I could only use 3.25gb on 32 bit
#256 [05:19] <tyteen4a03> newster: The point is, there is no way you can get that information unless you file a court case and the court requires Mojang to provide that info (I believe they do have that information)
#257 [05:19] <tyteen4a03> Narusuji: So... a complete reinstall?
#258 [05:19] <Narusuji> should i reinstall windows again?
#259 [05:20] <Narusuji> what do you mean?
#260 [05:20] <tyteen4a03> Narusuji: no, I sked if you did a complete reinstall of windows
#261 [05:20] <tyteen4a03> *asked
#262 [05:20] <Narusuji> oh, yeah i did.
#263 [05:20] <newster> I would suffice registration date then I would have handled it alone :)
#264 [05:20] <tyteen4a03> newster: We, nor Mojang, can provide such information
#265 [05:21] <newster> and it is possible to contact them?
#266 [05:22] <tyteen4a03> newster: Mojang will NOT give out such information, I am afraid
#267 [05:22] <newster> but I can not try it?
#268 [05:23] <tyteen4a03> newster: Mojang will never provide such information, however you can contact help@mojang.com if you really want to try your luck (but I wouldn't)
#269 [05:24] <newster> thank you for your email and for your help
#270 [05:24] <newster> thank you for your email and for your help
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#272 [05:31] <Narusuji> So do you know what could I do?
#273 [05:34] <AM3> Narusuji: if tyteen4a03 has no better suggestion I would try the batch file method to find the actual error message: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#274 [05:35] <AM3> Narusuji: it might be the graphics driver - after the windows reinstall did you install the newest from the card maker?
#275 [05:36] <Narusuji> yes I did
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#277 [05:36] <Narusuji> but I don't know if I have to install OpenGL
#278 [05:38] <Narusuji> What should I do next after doing the thing with minecraft.jar?
#279 [05:38] <AM3> Narusuji: OpenGL is part of the graphics driver
#280 [05:38] <Narusuji> oh okay
#281 [05:38] <AM3> Narusuji: you mean "In the same folder, right click inside, choose new -> text document" ?
#282 [05:39] <Narusuji> Yes
#283 [05:39] <Narusuji> I made a new folder with only the minecraft.jar and I made a new text document
#284 [05:40] <Narusuji> and put in the : java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame pause
#285 [05:40] <Narusuji> and then saved it as .bat at the end
#286 [05:40] <AM3> Narusuji: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh <-- keep following the instructions here; the last part is to double click the run.bat file
#287 [05:41] <Narusuji> Oh, forgot to say that it did that.
#288 [05:41] <AM3> Narusuji: ? did you launch run.bat ? What appears in the black command prompt window?
#289 [05:44] <Narusuji> How can I copy the writing from the .bat file?
#290 [05:45] <Narusuji> Says something about dependent libraries
#291 [05:45] <AM3> Narusuji: You mean the black command prompt window? Press Alt space and select select all and then copy and paste to pastebin.com
#292 [05:45] <AM3> ??> Narusuji pastebin
#293 [05:45] <VoxelHead> Narusuji: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#295 [05:46] <Narusuji> Here : http://pastebin.com/crQgXYXF
#296 [05:48] <AM3> Narusuji: Have you used mods at any time? Run it again and this time click Minecraft Options Force Update
#297 [05:49] <Narusuji> After I reinstalled Windows I couldn't run it at all, so no, I didn't install any mods.
#298 [05:49] <tyteen4a03> AM3: I think it's his driver, he said he didn't install any mods (and sorry for brb)
#299 [05:50] <AM3> Narusuji: Definitely Java 6 installed?
#300 [05:50] <Narusuji> It's still a black screen after I force updated it.
#301 [05:50] <Narusuji> Yes, Java 6 Update 31 (64 Bit)
#302 [05:51] <AM3> Narusuji: Run DxDiag so we can look at the drivers (not sure about this myself):
#303 [05:51] <AM3> ??> Narusuji win/dxdiag
#304 [05:51] <AM3> ??> Narusuji win/dxdiag
#305 [05:51] <VoxelHead> Narusuji: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#306 [05:51] <VoxelHead> Narusuji: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#307 [05:51] <auscompgeek> 256 MB? that's not a lot of RAM that you're giving to Minecraft
#308 [05:52] <AM3> auscompgeek: 256 is plenty
#309 [05:52] <auscompgeek> not when you're talking about Java
#310 [05:52] <Narusuji> http://pastebin.com/ba7NTaHC
#311 [05:53] <AM3> auscompgeek: I've used 256 for a yar now. But I run vanilla or just OptiFine with ordinary default textures; maybe some complex maps might need more, say 768, but 256 is fine for testing and solves some issues with insufficient memory
#312 [05:53] <AM3> auscompgeek: I've used 256 for a year now *
#313 [05:53] <auscompgeek> Ah.
#314 [05:54] <auscompgeek> the very minimum huh?
#315 [05:55] <AM3> Narusuji: DxDiag shows an driver up to date as far as I can see. Let's try a variation of run.bat, change it to look like this: http://pastebin.com/EuU0tLLJ
#316 [05:56] <AM3> auscompgeek: I've tested as low as 180 - but that will cause out of memory errors after a few minutes or portal uses
#317 [05:57] <tyteen4a03> AM3: 256 MB? really...?
#318 [05:57] <tyteen4a03> if you are on windows that would be a miracle
#319 [05:57] <Narusuji> should I post the text from the .bat file?
#320 [05:58] <AM3> auscompgeek: Remember that the -Xmx number is just the Java *heap* memory, Java still uses more than that; probably 768 MB more than that
#321 [05:58] <auscompgeek> Oh. Right.
#322 [05:58] <AM3> Narusuji: Yes please, pastebin it
#323 [05:58] <Narusuji> http://pastebin.com/6AfwreNs
#324 [05:58] <auscompgeek> Why does Minecraft allocate so much heap memory then :o
#325 [05:59] <AM3> auscompgeek: Good question - by default it tries 1024 MB, might be some Java or Windows default? All I know is 1024 is normally way over the top.
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#327 [06:03] <AM3> Narusuji: Hmm, that still shows the same "lwjgl.dll: Can't find dependent libraries" - Not seen that before, I'll look around for a reason
#328 [06:04] <Narusuji> Thanks for helping, I really appreciate that people spend their time helping other people like me :)
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#330 [06:05] <AM3> Narusuji: Can you check that Java 6 is really the only one installed? Click Start then click control panel and click the Java icon and click the Java tab and click the View button
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#332 [06:07] <Narusuji> Yeah, there's only one installed.
#333 [06:07] <watnoufrank> is there a channel for servers?
#334 [06:08] <watnoufrank> ?
#335 [06:09] <AM3> Narusuji: And what is the path in that View window? You may need to add it to the run.bat file as in line 17 of this example: http://pastebin.com/SWDHPUcP
#336 [06:09] <AM3> watnoufrank: I think there's #smp for servers and #bukkit for the bukkit product
#337 [06:10] <Narusuji> The path is the same.
#338 [06:10] <Narusuji> The path is the same.
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#340 [06:12] <AM3> Narusuji: Edit the run.bat to insert that path in that line like this: "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
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#342 [06:17] <Narusuji> How should I do this?
#343 [06:19] <AM3> Narusuji: right mouse click over the run.bat file in that new folder and click Edit - a Notepad window should open and you can insert the text in front of the "java" line
#344 [06:20] <AM3> Narusuji: make sure to include the quotes around the whole java command like this: "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe"
#345 [06:20] <AM3> Narusuji
#346 [06:21] <Narusuji> Should I put pause at a new line?
#347 [06:22] <AM3> Narusuji: yes
#348 [06:22] <Narusuji> Should I put the text on pastebin?
#349 [06:23] <AM3> Narusuji: is it the same Can't find dependent libraries? Otherwise, yes please pastebin it
#350 [06:23] <Narusuji> yeah
#351 [06:23] <Narusuji> it's the same
#352 [06:23] <Narusuji> lwjgl.dll
#353 [06:24] <Wug> do you have a cracked version of windows
#354 [06:24] <Narusuji> No, I have an original one
#355 [06:24] <AM3> Narusuji: I'm wondering of the java install is wierd here, but listen to Wug first for now
#356 [06:25] <Narusuji> Just have to activate it
#357 [06:25] <Wug> the only time ive ever seen this issue was on cracked versions of windows
#358 [06:27] <AM3> Narusuji: Could try the javara program to clean up any borked java: see VoxelHead's next message
#359 [06:27] <AM3> ??> Narusuji win/javara
#360 [06:27] <VoxelHead> Narusuji: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#361 [06:28] <VoxelHead> Narusuji: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#362 [06:28] <AM3> Narusuji: Otherwise I would try activating Windows and see if there are any Windows Updates pending - I'm just guessing in the dark at this point
#363 [06:29] <Narusuji> I got a message about 10 minutes ago with an important windows update.
#364 [06:32] <Narusuji> What should I do with JavaRa?
#365 [06:34] <AM3> Narusuji: download and run it ?
#366 [06:35] <Narusuji> What next?
#367 [06:36] <Narusuji> What option should I choose?
#368 [06:38] <AM3> Narusuji: click Remove older versions I would guess
#369 [06:39] <Narusuji> In the log file it says a lot about : There was an error removing C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\extensions\{CAFEEFAC-0016-0010-ABCDEFFDCBA}. The error returned was 124.
#370 [06:41] <AM3> Narusuji: probably because Java plugin is enabled in the Firefox browser, either try to disable the plugin from Firefox or close all browsers using Java and retry Javara
#371 [06:41] <Narusuji> ok, will try that.
#372 [06:41] <Narusuji> brb
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#374 [06:44] <Narusuji> Hmm, weird because I don't have mozilla firefox installed, as I use google chrome from now on.
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#376 [06:53] <AM3> Narusuji: Has Javara fixed the issue? If not we'll try a new windows profile next.
#377 [06:54] <Narusuji> The minecraft sitll doesn't work, so I think it didn't fix it.
#378 [06:55] <AM3> ??> Narusuji win/profile
#379 [06:55] <VoxelHead> Narusuji: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#380 [06:55] <VoxelHead> Narusuji: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#381 [06:56] <Narusuji> ok, will try that
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#383 [07:00] <Narusuji> Okay im back.
#384 [07:00] <Narusuji> And I must say... it worked :)
#385 [07:00] <Narusuji> Finally I can play minecraft :)
#386 [07:02] <Narusuji> Thanks for helping me, even though it took quite a while to make it work :)
#387 [07:02] <AM3> Narusuji: That's good. Something must be up with the normal user's config, my guesses are some environment variables or registry derpiness
#388 [07:02] <Narusuji> I will just have to take all the icons from this user to the other one
#389 [07:03] <Narusuji> but it works :)
#390 [07:03] <AM3> Narusuji: Although does your username have strange characters in it?
#391 [07:03] <Narusuji> Thanks anyways. :)
#392 [07:03] <Narusuji> Yeah
#393 [07:03] <Narusuji> It does have one
#394 [07:03] <AM3> Narusuji: Ah. That might be it
#395 [07:04] <Narusuji> My name in Polish. Probably why
#396 [07:04] <Narusuji> And the other username without the letter.
#397 [07:04] <AM3> Narusuji: there's a known issue with "!", but there could also be problems with other characters. I should have noticed from your pastebin
#398 [07:05] <Narusuji> Well, the letter is ł
#399 [07:05] <Narusuji> it's like an l but with an accent of some kind.
#400 [07:06] <Narusuji> ok, Thanks. Going to play minecraft now :)
#401 [07:06] <AM3> Narusuji: there's a not guarranteed wokraround that *might* work:
#402 [07:06] <AM3> ??> Narusuji win/!
#403 [07:06] <VoxelHead> Narusuji: (win/!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#404 [07:06] <VoxelHead> Narusuji: (win/!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#405 [07:07] <AM3> Narusuji: but I would just keep the separate user profile
#406 [07:07] <Narusuji> Okay
#407 [07:08] <Narusuji> Is voxelhead like a bot? because I can see you type in a special kind of code and then he answers to the person you put in the message.
#408 [07:08] <AM3> ?? bot
#409 [07:08] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#410 [07:09] <Narusuji> Hmm, weird.
#411 [07:09] <AM3> Narusuji: I am guessing that you used a different name with Windows 32 bit, and that's why MC worked before.
#412 [07:10] <Narusuji> You type in win/! and then he says that at the start and then an answer corresponding to the code thingy.
#413 [07:10] <Narusuji> Yeah, I just didn't use any special characters.
#414 [07:13] <Narusuji> Anyways, I'm going to play minecraft now.
#415 [07:13] <Narusuji> Thanks for your help.
#416 [07:13] <Narusuji> :)
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#418 [07:13] <Narusuji> Bye.
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#423 [07:51] <VideoBIT> Hi there! How can I change a spawn point on MC server?
#424 [07:52] <LilLucy> /setspawn I think
#425 [07:53] <VideoBIT> It is some plugin's command, isn't it?
#426 [07:53] <LilLucy> Most likely
#427 [07:53] <LilLucy> try /help
#428 [07:53] <LilLucy> and see the list of commands
#429 [07:53] <LilLucy> It might even be /spawn
#430 [07:53] <LilLucy> I know the original server has a command for it
#431 [07:55] <VideoBIT> There is no command that can change spawn point. http://pastebin.com/A6xJqU5K
#432 [07:57] <AM3> VideoBIT: you could probably change the level.dat file entry for the spawn with NBTEdit to avoid using plugins, but I've only tried this in SP copies of server maps and not directly in a /world/ level.dat file
#433 [07:57] <Grim_Reaper> Im sure there was one
#434 [07:58] <Grim_Reaper> But if you like, use mcedit and change the spawn that way if Im correct
#435 [07:58] <VideoBIT> I just found that CommandBook plugin has "/setspawn" command. Maybe this can solve my problem.
#436 [07:59] <LilLucy> :p
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#443 [08:27] <TheDarkPirate> Hi
#444 [08:27] <Grim_Reaper> We dont take kindly to pirates around these parts :3
#445 [08:42] <Wug> yar har fiddle dee dee
#446 [08:42] <Wug> I MEAN UH
#447 [08:42] <Wug> HELLO
#448 [08:43] <Grim_Reaper> YAR HAR fiddle dee dee! Being a pirate is alright with me! Do what you want cause a pirate is free! You ARE A PIRATE!
#449 [08:44] * Grim_Reaper hugs Wug
#449 [08:46] <Wolfmade> Well, actually...
#450 [08:46] <Wolfmade> It's "Being a pirate is alright to be!"
#451 [08:46] <Wolfmade> :D
#452 [08:47] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
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#456 [09:06] <TheDarkPirate> Hey
#457 [09:06] <Grim_Reaper> We dont take kindly to pirates around these parts :3
#458 [09:06] <Grim_Reaper> How can we help
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#460 [09:07] <TheDarkPirate> I used to use my account for a long time
#461 [09:07] <TheDarkPirate> But now when i go in it says "User Not Premium"
#462 [09:07] <TheDarkPirate> Please help me
#463 [09:07] <WugBot> TheDarkPirate: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#464 [09:08] <Grim_Reaper> Ok
#465 [09:08] <Grim_Reaper> Where did you buy the account from?
#466 [09:09] <TheDarkPirate> From A WebSite
#467 [09:09] <Grim_Reaper> Which website exactly?
#468 [09:13] <TheDarkPirate> leveltr.com
#469 [09:13] <Wug> :scam
#470 [09:13] <WugBot> scam: Do not buy minecraft from anywhere except http://minecraft.net There is a high probability that the gift code you purchase will later be disabled.
#471 [09:13] <WugBot> scam: This scam is possible because it is possible to perform a chargeback on the payment made for the gift code. This results in the money being transferred back into the buyers account and Mojang disabling the gift code.
#472 [09:13] <Grim_Reaper> yeah seems like you were given a trial account
#473 [09:14] <Grim_Reaper> or yes a charge back
#474 [09:15] <TheDarkPirate> O.o
#475 [09:16] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah sorry.
#476 [09:16] <TheDarkPirate> Omg
#477 [09:18] <Grim_Reaper> The best thing I can suggest is try see if you can do a charge back. And always check sites reviews and such out before buying
#478 [09:18] <Grim_Reaper> it's always best to buy from the original site. Never from other places
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#485 [10:19] <slimer> can someone help me?
#486 [10:19] <WugBot> slimer: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#487 [10:20] <slimer> never mind
#488 [10:20] <slimer> oh wait
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#490 [10:21] <slimer> can you help me to look at:195.241.14.150
#491 [10:21] <slimer> only a little look
#492 [10:21] <Boreeas> !check 195.241.14.150
#493 [10:21] <Aikar> thats an interesting scam
#494 [10:21] <slimer> this is no advertising
#495 [10:21] <Boreeas> Nope, not working, slimer
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#497 [10:22] <slimer> i made a server on my own ip
#498 [10:22] <Boreeas> And it's not open, check your ports
#499 [10:22] <slimer> and can i just run it on my external id?
#500 [10:23] <slimer> i will port forward it now
#501 [10:23] <Boreeas> You need to forward your ports, but otherwise, yes
#502 [10:23] <slimer> ok must i port forward my external id?
#503 [10:23] <Boreeas> Not id, ip
#504 [10:24] <slimer> oh sorry, lol
#505 [10:24] <Boreeas> And no, you don't forward that one, you forward a port
#506 [10:24] <Boreeas> the :25565 after the ip
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#508 [10:24] <slimer> how?
#509 [10:24] <Boreeas> http://portforward.com
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#511 [10:24] <slimer> thanks
#512 [10:24] <Boreeas> Tutorials are there
#513 [10:25] <Boreeas> If there is an ad for something you would have to pay for, don't click it
#514 [10:25] <Boreeas> wait a couple of seconds and a "Skip ad" button should appear
#515 [10:26] <slimer> skip ad?
#516 [10:27] <Boreeas> You'll know it when you reach it
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#524 [10:47] <watnoufrank> cani have some help?
#525 [10:47] <watnoufrank> with portforwarding?
#526 [10:47] <watnoufrank> *waiting
#527 [10:47] <watnoufrank> *waiting
#528 [10:47] <Boreeas> ??> watnoufrank patience
#529 [10:47] <VoxelHead> watnoufrank: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#530 [10:47] <VoxelHead> watnoufrank: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#531 [10:48] <watnoufrank> yeah soz
#532 [10:48] <watnoufrank> i was just making some fun:)
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#534 [10:49] <watnoufrank> can someone help me?
#535 [10:49] <WugBot> watnoufrank: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#536 [10:49] <watnoufrank> i said
#537 [10:49] <watnoufrank> ok
#538 [10:49] <watnoufrank> i need some help with portforwarding i watched a lot of youtube videos and i dont understand
#539 [10:50] <Boreeas> The website should give you all the information you need, I think (Never done it myself, though)
#540 [10:50] <watnoufrank> my router is a:zyxel p2601 hn
#541 [10:50] <watnoufrank> i dont know
#542 [10:51] <watnoufrank> the website is s***
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#544 [10:51] <watnoufrank> does someone have a easy wiki page
#545 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> Every router is different.
#546 [10:52] <watnoufrank> i am not in the list of portforward.com
#547 [10:52] <AM3> watnoufrank: portforward.com has good guides for most routers - does it nor list the zyxel?
#548 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> port forward.com does list the zyxel
#549 [10:52] <watnoufrank> yes
#550 [10:52] <watnoufrank> not my zyxel
#551 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> Don't need your exact zyxel, just choose one. The format should still be the same
#552 [10:53] <AM3> watnoufrank: try the 2602 instructions then robably very similar
#553 [10:53] <watnoufrank> ok thanks
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#555 [11:03] <watnoufrank> when i check it on a website it says it is not open
#556 [11:04] <watnoufrank> and i really opened it
#557 [11:04] <Boreeas> !check 195.241.14.150
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#559 [11:07] <watnoufrank> what's up
#560 [11:07] <watnoufrank> can't someone help me
#561 [11:08] <watnoufrank> what grim?
#562 [11:09] <EyesIsMine> ..
#563 [11:09] <watnoufrank> ?
#564 [11:10] <watnoufrank> yeah i know but i only want help
#565 [11:11] <watnoufrank> can someone help me?
#566 [11:11] <WugBot> watnoufrank: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#567 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> ??> watnoufrank teamviewer
#568 [11:11] <VoxelHead> watnoufrank: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#569 [11:11] <VoxelHead> watnoufrank: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#570 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> Grab that, download it, run it. Give us the 9digit ID and 4 digit password
#571 [11:12] <watnoufrank> ok
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#574 [11:13] <wolfx_3000> hi
#575 [11:13] <wolfx_3000> why am i banned
#576 [11:13] <wolfx_3000> why am i banned
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#578 [11:14] <watnoufrank> my id is:421 923 926
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#580 [11:15] <watnoufrank> my password is:y4yj56
#581 [11:15] <watnoufrank> my password is:y4yj56
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#583 [11:15] <watnoufrank> good greyvulpine?
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#585 [11:15] <Boreeas> watnoufrank: That is not the right password
#586 [11:15] <GreyVulpine> Yes, one moment
#587 [11:15] <watnoufrank> it is
#588 [11:15] <watnoufrank> it is 5 digit
#589 [11:15] <watnoufrank> or even 6
#590 [11:15] <Boreeas> You need a 4-digit one, numbers only
#591 [11:15] <watnoufrank> where can i find it?
#592 [11:15] <avatar9999> i have a problem with my account
#593 [11:16] <watnoufrank> it works
#594 [11:16] <avatar9999> and i have send emails too help@mojang.com
#595 [11:16] <avatar9999> but i didn't get a respond
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#597 [11:21] <watnoufrank> ;check
#598 [11:21] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 195-241-14-150.ip.telfort.nl:25565 (Timed out)
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#602 [11:29] <EyesIsMine> ;check
#603 [11:29] <WugBot> host86-173-210-11.range86-173.btcentralplus.com:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: WMC Normal (0/20)
#604 [11:29] <EyesIsMine> ;check 25564
#605 [11:29] <WugBot> Unable to determine the hostname of 25564. Nobody with that nickname seems to be online.
#606 [11:29] <EyesIsMine> ;check EyesIsMine 25564
#607 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> ;check wat
#608 [11:30] <WugBot> Unable to determine the hostname of wat. Nobody with that nickname seems to be online.
#609 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> ;check watnoufrank
#610 [11:30] <WugBot> 195-241-14-150.ip.telfort.nl:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Mijn geweldige server (0/20)
#611 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> Easy enough.
#612 [11:36] <Omega_Guardian> wow. playing Killing Floor, and I just heard one of the Bloats made a sound that sounded exactly like TMI
#613 [11:37] <EyesIsMine> ;check eyesismine:25564
#614 [11:37] <WugBot> Unable to determine the hostname of eyesismine:25564. Nobody with that nickname seems to be online.
#615 [11:37] <EyesIsMine> !check
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#617 [11:37] <EyesIsMine> !check 25564
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#621 [11:41] <Wug> ;ip EyesIsMine
#622 [11:41] <WugBot> IP address of EyesIsMine is: 86.173.210.11
#623 [11:41] <Wug> ;check 86.173.210.11:25564
#624 [11:41] <WugBot> 86.173.210.11:25564 seems to host a minecraft server: A Minecraft Server (0/20)
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#626 [11:41] <EyesIsMine> that works
#627 [11:41] <EyesIsMine> ;ip 127.0.0.1
#628 [11:41] <WugBot> Unable to determine IP address of 127.0.0.1. Are you sure you typed it right?
#629 [11:41] <EyesIsMine> ;check 127.0.0.1
#630 [11:41] <WugBot> 127.0.0.1:25565 is accepting connections.
#631 [11:41] <EyesIsMine> !check 127.0.1
#632 [11:41] <EyesIsMine> ...
#633 [11:41] <Wug> lol
#634 [11:42] <EyesIsMine> derp
#635 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> Please don't spam with the bots
#636 [11:42] <EyesIsMine> i'm noy
#637 [11:42] <Wug> yessir
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#644 [12:09] <Steve[mbp]> morning gents
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#664 [12:39] <marox> Hi
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#666 [12:39] <marox> I need some help here...
#667 [12:39] <marox> I forget my password so i wanted to reset it but Curse tells me that there is not my email in database but when i want to create new account Curse say there is already my email in use... so can anyone halp me pls ?
#668 [12:40] <Fenhl> marox: #minecraftforums was the right place
#669 [12:40] <Fenhl> marox: no need to crosspost
#670 [12:44] <marox> well sorry for spam but there is no answer
#671 [12:44] <Fenhl> marox: patience is the key.
#672 [12:48] <marox> Fenhl: I guess I will just create some new random e-mail
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#683 [13:11] <nexus> Hey guys i bought me Minecraft via EC ELV and didn't request anything after 5 days and im wondering why. Is it possible that there are some Problems with this payment?
#684 [13:13] <xales> Confirm that the payment was successful and that your account is not marked premium.
#685 [13:14] <xales> If that is the case, then we can help further, otherwise, the issue is a fairly simple fix.
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#687 [13:15] <nexus> when i try to log in at the launcher it told me that im not premium and the only thing i recieved is 5 days ago an email to confirm my account nothing else.
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#689 [13:17] <xales> Confirm that the payment was made.
#690 [13:19] <Grim_Reaper> nexus where did you buy minecraft from?
#691 [13:19] <nexus> minecraft.net
#692 [13:19] <Grim_Reaper> Ok and what is the username you used?
#693 [13:19] <nexus> nexusho
#694 [13:19] <Grim_Reaper> !paid nexusho
#695 [13:20] <Grim_Reaper> Are you sure you typed it right?
#696 [13:20] <nexus> yes i am sure
#697 [13:20] <Grim_Reaper> ok
#698 [13:20] <Grim_Reaper> Try logging in with your email address and seeing if that works
#699 [13:21] <nexus> so u mean to use my email not my account name to login on the homepage wright?
#700 [13:21] <Grim_Reaper> No I mean try login to the launcher with your email address
#701 [13:21] <Grim_Reaper> If that still doesn't work
#702 [13:21] <Grim_Reaper> As xales suggested. Make sure the payment was successful. If it was, please email help@mojang.com and request help
#703 [13:22] * GreyVulpine coughs
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#704 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#705 [13:22] <Grim_Reaper> Or use that link >_>
#706 [13:22] * Grim_Reaper coughs up a midget on GreyVulpine
#706 [13:23] <nexus> allright when i try to login with my email it say "login failed" i think i go to my bank tomorrow and watch if the money is booked if not i will know where the problem is
#707 [13:23] <Grim_Reaper> Alrighty
#708 [13:24] <nexus> thanks a lot :)
#709 [13:24] <Grim_Reaper> GreyVulpine where is my hug?
#710 [13:24] <Grim_Reaper> Anytime
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#721 [14:24] <L0LV4T> Hi, I've got a little problem with Minecraft: After Notch has released the final version of Minecraft, my computer makes horrible noises, something ultra-sound-like. I have no idea how to fix it, but before final release I haven't got this problem. What do you suggest me to do? In other game, I had a similar problem like this, and changing the rendering option to SDL has helped me, but
#722 [14:24] <L0LV4T> I don't see any rendering options in Minecraft configuration. I think that's because of the added blurry screen or Notch just made it more CPU-lusty. I've made a major check of my computer for everything. I scanned it for viruses, dusted it, applied thermo-gel on the parts of my computer, but that still happens. What should I do?
#723 [14:24] <Grim_Reaper> Is the sound coming from your speakers?
#724 [14:25] <Wug> does the noise come through the audio output or is it made from some component
#725 [14:25] <Grim_Reaper> I asked first wug :3
#726 [14:25] <Grim_Reaper> :D
#727 [14:25] <Wug> asdf
#728 [14:25] <Grim_Reaper> asdfg
#729 [14:25] <AM3> L0LV4T: sounds like capacitar whine - or the GPU fan is wearing out
#730 [14:26] <AM3> L0LV4T: does reducing the Minecraft graphics options reduce the sound?
#731 [14:26] <Wug> I get just a little bit of interference to my audio output from what I believe is the gpu, but its not usually noticable
#732 [14:26] <Grim_Reaper> o_O
#733 [14:26] <Grim_Reaper> I never get that
#734 [14:26] <Grim_Reaper> Inb4 it starts >_>
#735 [14:26] <Wug> I only notice it if I have no sound playing and turn the volume all the way up
#736 [14:27] <Wug> I hear artifacts when I do things that involve rendering work
#737 [14:27] <Grim_Reaper> Never heard of that happening..
#738 [14:27] <Wug> its not a universal problem
#739 [14:28] <Wug> its basically electrical interference by something on the analog audio output
#740 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh
#741 [14:28] <Wug> if I had to hazard a guess I'd say its probably the pci bus or something
#742 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> So would I be correct in assuming new speakers might fix it?
#743 [14:28] <Wug> which draws a fair bit of juice
#744 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> Or a new sound card
#745 [14:28] <L0LV4T> Uhm, it's from most probably my CPU.
#746 [14:29] <Wug> L0LV4T: thats exceptionally unlikely
#747 [14:29] <L0LV4T> My computer has handled Minecraft before without problems, only after the final release it started happening.
#748 [14:29] <Wug> it could be the gpu
#749 [14:29] <L0LV4T> GPU?
#750 [14:29] <Wug> graphics card
#751 [14:29] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#752 [14:29] <Grim_Reaper> Or.. graphics processing unit
#753 [14:29] <L0LV4T> But why it happens randomly on some games?
#754 [14:29] <Wug> the cpu is a slab of silicon with no macroscopic or moving parts
#755 [14:29] <L0LV4T> Some games that require alot of CPU power don't cause that problem, and some do.
#756 [14:29] <Grim_Reaper> Except for the fan wug :3
#757 [14:30] <Wug> not part of the cpu
#758 [14:30] <L0LV4T> Lets call it the main drive.
#759 [14:30] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#760 [14:30] <Wug> thats not even a thing
#761 [14:30] <Grim_Reaper> Unless you know exactly what is making the sound
#762 [14:30] <AM3> L0LV4T: check the temperatures and fan speeds of CPU and GPU? Is your system a desktop?
#763 [14:30] <Grim_Reaper> You cant exactly rule out what the problem is
#764 [14:30] <L0LV4T> Yes it is.
#765 [14:30] <Wug> L0LV4T: check with speedfan to see if something is overheating
#766 [14:30] <Grim_Reaper> Also yeah. Fans are a possibility
#767 [14:31] <L0LV4T> Also as I said, it happens randomly, on some games my computer can go really hot and don't cause this problem.
#768 [14:31] <Wug> "main drive" is not terminology im familiar with
#769 [14:31] <Wug> you might mean the hard drive
#770 [14:31] <AM3> L0LV4T: open the case and try to isolate the noise source
#771 [14:31] <L0LV4T> And sometimes, when I change rendering option, it stops happening.
#772 [14:31] <Wug> but the hdd is not taxed much by minecraft
#773 [14:31] <L0LV4T> AM3: I did, I am sure it's from the thingy that disks come in.
#774 [14:31] <Grim_Reaper> As in the cd/dvd rom?
#775 [14:31] <L0LV4T> Yes.
#776 [14:31] <Grim_Reaper> Minecraft doesn't use that though
#777 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> Unless you're playing it off of a cd
#778 [14:32] <L0LV4T> I know, but the sound starts from there though. :/
#779 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> Well...
#780 [14:32] <L0LV4T> It happens even when I don't have any disk inside.
#781 [14:32] <L0LV4T> And I figured out that changing the rendering option helps alot.
#782 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> I guess you could disable it or take the power out of that
#783 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> Try playing miencraft/other games
#784 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> And seeing if it still happens
#785 [14:32] <L0LV4T> I said, it happens randomly.
#786 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> That way you could rule it out for sure
#787 [14:33] <Wug> try limiting the framerate
#788 [14:33] <Wug> set it as low as possible
#789 [14:33] <Wug> check if it stops
#790 [14:33] <L0LV4T> Tried that, but still causes that problem.
#791 [14:33] <L0LV4T> I am really not sure what causes that.
#792 [14:33] <AM3> L0LV4T: Could the Hard drive be close to the DVD drive? Remove the DVD drive and see if that's the source?
#793 [14:33] <AM3> L0LV4T: Could the Hard drive be close to the DVD drive? Remove the DVD drive and see if that's the source?
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#796 [14:33] <L0LV4T> Hmmm, I'll try that.
#797 [14:33] <Wug> its so unlikely to be the hard drive its crazy
#798 [14:33] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#799 [14:33] <Wug> if your hard drive is making noises like that your computer wouldnt boot
#800 [14:33] <Grim_Reaper> Harddrive would make a ticking sound if it was that
#801 [14:34] <L0LV4T> So you want to tell that my problem is a rare one? D:
#802 [14:34] <Wug> because its probably the disk head scraping the platters or something
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#804 [14:34] <L0LV4T> Because, I swear to the God, I am 95% sure it comes from the hard drive.
#805 [14:34] <Grim_Reaper> I would imagine if it was the hdd you wouldn't be able to use your pc
#806 [14:34] <Wug> ^
#807 [14:34] <Grim_Reaper> Like. it would be screwed up so badly that it wouldn't have anything left to read
#808 [14:34] <Wug> start minecraft and then
#809 [14:34] <L0LV4T> And then, what?
#810 [14:35] <Wug> open your case and touch each of the fans gently to stop them for a second
#811 [14:35] <Wug> see if any of them is making the noise
#812 [14:35] <Grim_Reaper> ...
#813 [14:35] <Wug> fans go bad sometimes, bearings degrade with time
#814 [14:35] <Grim_Reaper> My friend tried touching his fan while his pc was on once lol >_>
#815 [14:35] <Grim_Reaper> He got an ouchy from it :D
#816 [14:35] <L0LV4T> Uhm, but if that would be a problem with the fan, it should be happening on all games, right?
#817 [14:35] <Wug> touch the center so you dont chop your fingers off :P
#818 [14:35] <L0LV4T> Also, well, I have Crysis, and my computer can handle it without the noise problem.
#819 [14:36] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm
#820 [14:36] <L0LV4T> No way man, I already have bad experience with fans.
#821 [14:36] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#822 [14:36] <Wug> I still bet its the graphics card
#823 [14:36] <L0LV4T> I don't want to lose any meat for now.
#824 [14:36] <Wug> try updating all of the drivers
#825 [14:36] <L0LV4T> You think I didn't I did!
#826 [14:36] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#827 [14:36] <L0LV4T> Still happens.
#828 [14:36] <L0LV4T> :(
#829 [14:36] <Grim_Reaper> have you considered cleaning the motherboard?
#830 [14:36] <Grim_Reaper> some warm soapy water helps normally
#831 [14:36] <Grim_Reaper> naa just kidding >_>
#832 [14:36] <L0LV4T> But lets take Goblin Camp for example. Do you know what is Goblin Camp? It's something like DF.
#833 [14:36] <Grim_Reaper> Anyways errm
#834 [14:37] <L0LV4T> When I launch it, the problem starts.
#835 [14:37] <Grim_Reaper> Also no
#836 [14:37] <Wug> if its that big of a deal you should maybe have a professional look at it
#837 [14:37] <L0LV4T> But the options menu has three rendering options: OpenGL, Software and SDL.
#838 [14:37] <L0LV4T> Tried OpenGL and Software: Causes the problem, but when I switch to SDL, it stops.
#839 [14:37] <Grim_Reaper> Sounds like graphics card then
#840 [14:37] <L0LV4T> Not rendering then? :S?
#841 [14:37] <Grim_Reaper> Take it out and inspect it (particurly the fan)
#842 [14:38] <L0LV4T> I am not quite sure if the graphics card causes that problem, but sure I'll do that.
#843 [14:38] <Grim_Reaper> Also make sure there is no dust clumps anywhere. You may have to blow REAALLY hard if there are some. even if it looks like there aren't
#844 [14:38] <Grim_Reaper> Also please for all the good in this world
#845 [14:38] <L0LV4T> But if that will really cause this problem, I'd need to waste lots of money for a new graphics card. And my graphics card right now is my precious.
#846 [14:38] <Grim_Reaper> Let your gpu cool down first before touching it :p
#847 [14:38] <Wug> you think fans hurt
#848 [14:38] <Grim_Reaper> What graphics card is it?
#849 [14:38] <L0LV4T> Grim, read above. :P
#850 [14:39] <L0LV4T> I dusted it.
#851 [14:39] <L0LV4T> What graphics card? Wait, let me typei t.
#852 [14:39] <L0LV4T> It*
#853 [14:39] <Grim_Reaper> Dusted and blowing the hell of it are two different things :p
#854 [14:39] <L0LV4T> It's... GeForce 9800 GT X.
#855 [14:39] <L0LV4T> I blew it too.
#856 [14:39] <L0LV4T> Oh no, perverted comments incoming.
#857 [14:40] <Grim_Reaper> Thats what she said
#858 [14:40] <L0LV4T> At the first time, I had problems because my computer was whining, and it was indeed the fans. The dust caused the problem, after dusting and blewing the hell out of it, the whining stopped.
#859 [14:40] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#860 [14:40] <Grim_Reaper> Then I would give that a try sir :3
#861 [14:40] <L0LV4T> So, uh, I don't think that's the right path, right?
#862 [14:40] <L0LV4T> But I dusted it a week ago! D:
#863 [14:40] <Wug> I have the same card and I dont get any whining
#864 [14:41] <L0LV4T> Then, what the hell causes that problem? How much GB of RAM do you have?
#865 [14:41] <L0LV4T> I have 4GB.
#866 [14:41] <Wug> I have a ... little more than that
#867 [14:41] <L0LV4T> 16GB?
#868 [14:41] <Wug> but I used to have a similar amount and no issue
#869 [14:41] <Wug> 12 actually
#870 [14:42] <Grim_Reaper> I have 4
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#872 [14:42] <L0LV4T> Okay, so fans get out, graphics card too and RAM too.
#873 [14:42] <L0LV4T> I just have no idea what to do now. Is that the hard drive or the motherboard? Do you think motherboard can cause this problem?
#874 [14:42] <Wug> its definitely the graphics card
#875 [14:42] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#876 [14:43] <L0LV4T> So then, goodbye probably 1000$? (Calculating from złotych to dollars)
#877 [14:43] <L0LV4T> :<
#878 [14:44] <Grim_Reaper> Perhaps not
#879 [14:44] <Grim_Reaper> Maybe just needs a new fan :3
#880 [14:44] <Grim_Reaper> Though if you doo.... end up having to get a new card
#881 [14:44] <Grim_Reaper> Go for a nice shiny one <3
#882 [14:44] <L0LV4T> What for example?
#883 [14:44] <L0LV4T> Wug: Then can you explain why the problem stops when I use the correct rendering option? :P
#884 [14:45] <Grim_Reaper> If I could. I would sooo get a gtx 580
#885 [14:45] <Grim_Reaper> 3GB if possible
#886 [14:45] <Grim_Reaper> Though thats like $700 usd
#887 [14:45] <L0LV4T> How much does that co- OOOH no.
#888 [14:45] <Grim_Reaper> Though a gts 450 is always decent
#889 [14:45] <L0LV4T> It will be over 2500PLN!
#890 [14:45] <Grim_Reaper> I think thats about $150 usd or so
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#892 [14:46] <L0LV4T> I'll try to fetch a new graphics card, but my financial status doesn't help me in even a little.
#893 [14:46] <Grim_Reaper> I know the feeling man
#894 [14:46] <Grim_Reaper> Im stuck with a budget card (gt 220 1GB)
#895 [14:46] <Grim_Reaper> and a core 2 duo 2.93 GHZ
#896 [14:46] <L0LV4T> Just imagine getting 350$ monthly. :/
#897 [14:46] <Grim_Reaper> Imagine getting $110
#898 [14:46] <L0LV4T> :o
#899 [14:46] <Grim_Reaper> For the rest of your life ~
#900 [14:47] <Grim_Reaper> Im on a disability grant due to terminal illness, so I cant get a job
#901 [14:47] <L0LV4T> Urgh, fuck that, I'm going to be a mechanic.
#902 [14:47] * AuBot kicked L0LV4T from #minecrafthelp (Reason: 0LV4T :Please keep it civil.)
#903 [14:47] * L0LV4T [L0LV4T@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#904 [14:47] <L0LV4T> Oops, :d.
#905 [14:47] <Grim_Reaper> Lol
#906 [14:47] * cole36912 [cole36912@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#907 [14:47] <L0LV4T> Wanted to give it a bigger feel.
#908 [14:47] <L0LV4T> So uh, screw that, I'll go as a mechanic.
#909 [14:47] <Grim_Reaper> xP
#910 [14:47] <1AVAAA5IU> ;kick L0LV4T Please keep it civil.
#911 [14:47] * WugBot kicked L0LV4T from #minecrafthelp (Reason: 0LV4T :Please keep it civil.)
#912 [14:48] <Grim_Reaper> Who is 1AVAAA5IU
#913 [14:48] <cole36912> ;ip
#914 [14:48] <WugBot> IP address of cole36912 is: 98.155.13.134
#915 [14:48] <Grim_Reaper> Oh
#916 [14:48] * L0LV4T [L0LV4T@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#917 [14:48] <1AVAAA5IU> <.<
#918 [14:48] <1AVAAA5IU> >.>
#919 [14:48] <1AVAAA5IU> wb
#920 [14:48] <Grim_Reaper> Hehe you got owned
#921 [14:48] <cole36912> !check 98.155.13.134
#922 [14:48] <clarjon1> hey boreeas
#923 [14:48] <L0LV4T> Uh, why did you do that AVAAA?
#924 [14:48] <Grim_Reaper> thats what you get for kicking L0LV4T
#925 [14:48] <1AVAAA5IU> Grim_Reaper: Too bad I'm +v :)
#926 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> ;kick 1AVAAA5IU Too bad I am too :)
#927 [14:49] * WugBot kicked 1AVAAA5IU from #minecrafthelp (Reason: AVAAA5IU :Too bad I am too :))
#928 [14:49] <cole36912> YEESSSSSSSSSSS
#929 [14:49] <L0LV4T> Lol!
#930 [14:49] <L0LV4T> But anyways, I am only 19 years old. I can go to a mechanical school and go to army. :S
#931 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> I turn 19 this year
#932 [14:49] <L0LV4T> Or something more civil.
#933 [14:49] * 1AVAAA5IU [1AVAAA5IU@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#934 [14:49] <1AVAAA5IU> Grim_Reaper
#935 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> Dont do army
#936 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> Welcome back
#937 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> I wuv you 1AVAAA5IU <3
#938 [14:50] <1AVAAA5IU> ;kick Grim_Reaper Q.Q
#939 [14:50] * WugBot kicked Grim_Reaper from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rim_Reaper :Q.Q)
#940 [14:50] * Grim_Reaper [Grim_Reaper@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#941 [14:50] <Grim_Reaper> ;;
#942 [14:50] <1AVAAA5IU> Dat lag
#943 [14:50] <L0LV4T> This looks like a huge mess.
#944 [14:50] <L0LV4T> I think an operator will soon engage.
#945 [14:50] <Grim_Reaper> It's all good
#946 [14:50] <1AVAAA5IU> ^
#947 [14:50] <Grim_Reaper> Boreeas loves kicking me
#948 [14:50] <Grim_Reaper> For the simplist of things
#949 [14:50] <1AVAAA5IU> >:)
#950 [14:50] <L0LV4T> But why did he kick me too? :<
#951 [14:50] <Grim_Reaper> Infact this is the first time I've kicked him >_>
#952 [14:50] <Grim_Reaper> He kicked you for swearing
#953 [14:50] <L0LV4T> I feel assaulted.
#954 [14:51] <Grim_Reaper> Even though the bot already did that
#955 [14:51] <L0LV4T> I already got kicked. D:
#956 [14:51] <Grim_Reaper> And that is the reason I kicked him
#957 [14:51] <1AVAAA5IU> He said "screw" :(
#958 [14:51] <Grim_Reaper> Because he kicked you when you had already been kicked
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#960 [14:51] <Grim_Reaper> pfft
#961 [14:51] <cole36912_> ;ip
#962 [14:51] <WugBot> IP address of cole36912_ is: 98.155.13.134
#963 [14:51] <Grim_Reaper> Screw being kicked for saying screw ;-;
#964 [14:51] <L0LV4T> Screw is nothing like a swear.
#965 [14:51] <1AVAAA5IU> ;kick Grim_Reaper Please keep it civil.
#966 [14:51] * WugBot kicked Grim_Reaper from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rim_Reaper :Please keep it civil.)
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#968 [14:51] <Grim_Reaper> Grr >_>
#969 [14:51] <1AVAAA5IU> <.<
#970 [14:51] <1AVAAA5IU> >.>
#971 [14:51] * GreyVulpine coughs
#971 [14:51] <1AVAAA5IU> <3 Grim_Reaper
#972 [14:51] * Grim_Reaper hugs GreyVulpine
#972 [14:51] * Wug coughs louder
#972 [14:51] <L0LV4T> AVAAA, you make me think you are a terrible man.
#973 [14:51] * Grim_Reaper coughs the loudest
#973 [14:52] * 1AVAAA5IU hugs AuBot and Wug
#973 [14:52] <Grim_Reaper> Come to think of it
#974 [14:52] <L0LV4T> Grim_Reaper, go as mechanic to warzone. :P
#975 [14:52] <Grim_Reaper> I think 1AVAAA5IU has a fetish for kicking me
#976 [14:52] <Grim_Reaper> I'll pass L0LV4T :p
#977 [14:52] <1AVAAA5IU> Kinky :P
#978 [14:52] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#979 [14:52] <L0LV4T> What's better than repairing and shooting huge guns?
#980 [14:52] <Grim_Reaper> Cant believe you kick me just to get off >_>
#981 [14:53] <1AVAAA5IU> You know you love it
#982 [14:53] <L0LV4T> For example the beautiful artilerry?
#983 [14:53] <Grim_Reaper> L0LV4T, making games :3
#984 [14:53] <Grim_Reaper> 1AVAAA5IU I guess I do
#985 [14:53] <Grim_Reaper> But I love Wug more <3
#986 [14:53] <1AVAAA5IU> :D
#987 [14:55] * Grim_Reaper sits next to GreyVulpine quietly
#987 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> ;kick Grim_Reaper
#988 [14:56] * WugBot kicked Grim_Reaper from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rim_Reaper :Grim_Reaper)
#989 [14:56] * Grim_Reaper [Grim_Reaper@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#990 [14:56] <Grim_Reaper> ;;
#991 [14:56] * GreyVulpine winks
#991 [14:56] <Grim_Reaper> Thats mean
#992 [14:57] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh
#993 [14:57] <Grim_Reaper> ;3
#994 [14:57] <Grim_Reaper> it was a wuv kick
#995 [14:59] * L0LV4T is a little worried by the current situation, and decides to hide in a barrel.
#995 [15:00] <L0LV4T> Is everything calm now, Grim_Reaper?
#996 [15:00] <L0LV4T> Has the kicking frenzy stopped?
#997 [15:00] <1AVAAA5IU> ;kick L0LV4T You know what they say about shooting L0LV4Ts in a barrel
#998 [15:00] * WugBot kicked L0LV4T from #minecrafthelp (Reason: 0LV4T :You know what they say about shooting L0LV4Ts in a barrel)
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#1000 [15:01] <1AVAAA5IU> <3
#1001 [15:01] <L0LV4T> You're making me a little bit mad now, you know.
#1002 [15:01] <1AVAAA5IU> Heh
#1003 [15:01] <Grim_Reaper> [22:00] <L0LV4T> Has the kicking frenzy stopped?
#1004 [15:01] <Grim_Reaper> I guess not
#1005 [15:01] <1AVAAA5IU> Tis just a kick
#1006 [15:01] <L0LV4T> But I don't want to keep re-joining.
#1007 [15:05] <L0LV4T> But since when do +v's have rights to kick? :o
#1008 [15:05] <Grim_Reaper> We're added to WugBot's list
#1009 [15:05] <Grim_Reaper> So yeah
#1010 [15:05] <Grim_Reaper> Thats how we kick :p
#1011 [15:05] <Grim_Reaper> He does it for us technically
#1012 [15:06] <L0LV4T> But aren't you a little afraid of abusing?
#1013 [15:06] <L0LV4T> Such like AVAAA's?
#1014 [15:06] <Grim_Reaper> Me? Naa
#1015 [15:06] <Grim_Reaper> I dont I wont abuse so yeah
#1016 [15:06] <Grim_Reaper> I might have my moment of kicking somebody for fun. Such as above when I kicked 1AVAAA5IU
#1017 [15:07] <Grim_Reaper> But yeah. I generally only kick when it's actually needed as a warning to said user
#1018 [15:07] <Grim_Reaper> And if they carry on, I kick them again with a final warning. And if they still carry on doing something they should not. A ban is in order in my opinion
#1019 [15:07] <Grim_Reaper> Least in most cases >.>
#1020 [15:08] <1AVAAA5IU> I also see a difference in kicking for fun, kicking with wugbot and kicking with aubot (which is followed by a short ban)
#1021 [15:08] <Grim_Reaper> o_O
#1022 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> How is kicking for fun different to kicking with wugbot lol?
#1023 [15:09] <1AVAAA5IU> Want me to demonstrate, Grim? >:)
#1024 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> Naa it's fine thanks
#1025 [15:09] * Fenhl [Fenhl@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1026 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> But yeah really thanks for the offer. But no thanks :p
#1027 [15:09] <L0LV4T> You know, kicking for fun can make your reputation fade away pretty fast. :S
#1028 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> Im not a fan of being banned ;-;
#1029 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> Thus I try my best not to get that done to me
#1030 [15:09] <L0LV4T> But it most probably depends on the people you do that.
#1031 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1032 [15:09] <1AVAAA5IU> Grim_Reaper: Kicking for fun is mostly done with a humerous message and without the intend of punishment or anything
#1033 [15:09] <L0LV4T> But doing that on me is a bad idea. :>
#1034 [15:10] <Grim_Reaper> Indeed 1AVAAA5IU
#1035 [15:10] <Wug> ;flags boreeas -c
#1036 [15:10] <WugBot> Nobody is logged on with that nickname.
#1037 [15:10] <Grim_Reaper> That I know of
#1038 [15:10] <1AVAAA5IU> (You learn to deal with that in #freebnc fairly quickly
#1039 [15:10] <Grim_Reaper> Lol Wug
#1040 [15:10] <1AVAAA5IU> Wug: <3
#1041 [15:10] <Wug> whoooah lagspike
#1042 [15:10] <Grim_Reaper> Also yeah. Chauffer does love his kicks
#1043 [15:10] <Wug> ;flags ~boreeas -c
#1044 [15:10] <WugBot> boreeas (in #minecrafthelp) has been given flags:
#1045 [15:10] <Grim_Reaper> And his disconnects >_>
#1046 [15:10] <1AVAAA5IU> Yay empty flags
#1047 [15:10] * Wug grabs 1AVAAA5IU by the beard
#1047 [15:10] <sabesto> is there any meaning to the enchantment sentences?
#1048 [15:10] <Wug> CEASE THIS MADNESS
#1049 [15:10] <Grim_Reaper> I didn't know 1AVAAA5IU had a beard
#1050 [15:10] * 1AVAAA5IU has no beard to be grabbed by
#1050 [15:10] <Grim_Reaper> sabesto yes
#1051 [15:10] <L0LV4T> Wug, can I give you a suggestion?
#1052 [15:10] <1AVAAA5IU> Wug: Aye aye
#1053 [15:10] <sabesto> "other twist inside stretch"
#1054 [15:10] * Wug grows 1AVAAA5IU a beard
#1054 [15:10] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1055 [15:10] <1AVAAA5IU> :O
#1056 [15:10] <Wug> L0LV4T: you can
#1057 [15:11] <Grim_Reaper> Not gonna ask how
#1058 [15:11] * L0LV4T pushes a huge pot full of lava under 1AVAAA5IU.
#1058 [15:11] <L0LV4T> :>
#1059 [15:11] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#1060 [15:11] * armed [armed@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1061 [15:11] * Grim_Reaper puts 3D glasses on for dramatic effect
#1061 [15:11] * 1AVAAA5IU has a waterbukket handy
#1061 [15:11] <L0LV4T> Now... Drop him!
#1062 [15:11] <Wug> ;cl flags
#1063 [15:11] <WugBot> Command flags has userlevel requirement 5 or requires one of the user flags +Ss.
#1064 [15:11] * L0LV4T takes the waterbucket away.
#1064 [15:11] <1AVAAA5IU> Too late
#1065 [15:11] <L0LV4T> You violated the law.
#1066 [15:11] <Wug> ;flags GreyVulpine
#1067 [15:11] <WugBot> greyvulpine has (in #minecrafthelp) flags:
#1068 [15:11] <1AVAAA5IU> lol
#1069 [15:11] <Wug> ;flags GreyVulpine +s
#1070 [15:11] <WugBot> greyvulpine (in #minecrafthelp) has been given flags: s
#1071 [15:11] <L0LV4T> You need to be lost in a pot of lava. May Satan have mercy on your soul.
#1072 [15:11] <Grim_Reaper> ;flags Grim_Reaper
#1073 [15:12] <Grim_Reaper> QQ
#1074 [15:12] <1AVAAA5IU> <.<
#1075 [15:12] <1AVAAA5IU> >.>
#1076 [15:12] <L0LV4T> Wug, drop him? :/
#1077 [15:12] <Grim_Reaper> I think I only have c flag anyways
#1078 [15:12] <1AVAAA5IU> Anyways, yay partition resizinh
#1079 [15:12] <1AVAAA5IU> Wish me luck, guys
#1080 [15:12] <Grim_Reaper> Not sure about the others >_>
#1081 [15:12] <Wug> L0LV4T: drop who
#1082 [15:12] <Grim_Reaper> Bye. Have fun
#1083 [15:12] <Wug> I took 1AVAAA5IU's kick away
#1084 [15:12] <Wug> ill give it back sometime
#1085 [15:12] <Wug> maybe
#1086 [15:12] <Wug> ಠ_ಠ
#1087 [15:12] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1088 [15:13] <Wug> GreyVulpine: you can ;flags now
#1089 [15:13] <1AVAAA5IU> ヽ( 。 ヮ゚)ノ
#1090 [15:13] <Grim_Reaper> Wug can I have ;huggle ;;
#1091 [15:13] <L0LV4T> Drop AVAAA.
#1092 [15:13] <Wug> dont blow anything up
#1093 [15:13] <L0LV4T> You forgot about that pot full of lava below him?
#1094 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> ;flags GreyVulpine -s
#1095 [15:13] <WugBot> greyvulpine (in #minecrafthelp) has been given flags:
#1096 [15:13] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1096 [15:13] <L0LV4T> You only need to release the grip on his beard.
#1097 [15:13] * aikaramba [aikaramba@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1098 [15:13] <Grim_Reaper> D:
#1099 [15:13] <Wug> ...
#1100 [15:13] <Wug> I cant override that either
#1101 [15:14] <Wug> DAMN YOU ETHICAL PROGRAMMING
#1102 [15:14] * GreyVulpine hahs
#1102 [15:14] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
#1103 [15:14] <Grim_Reaper> lul
#1104 [15:14] <L0LV4T> I don't get it.
#1105 [15:15] <L0LV4T> Why HL1 costs 1$ more than HL2?
#1106 [15:15] <1AVAAA5IU> Hehe
#1107 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Because HL2 is incomplete.
#1108 [15:15] * GreyVulpine nods sagely
#1108 [15:15] <Wug> ;fod valve
#1109 [15:15] <WugBot> Wug ಠ.ಠ) -----> valve
#1110 [15:15] <1AVAAA5IU> GreyVulpine the Grey
#1111 [15:15] <L0LV4T> Well, I think that HL:S should be free when you own HL1.
#1112 [15:15] <L0LV4T> Just my opinion though.
#1113 [15:16] * Wug slaps GreyVulpine around a bit with a large balrog
#1113 [15:16] <Wug> * GreyVulpine is now known as WhiteVulpine
#1114 [15:16] <1AVAAA5IU> ^
#1115 [15:16] <Wug> TEEHEE I MADE A LOTR JOKE
#1116 [15:16] <L0LV4T> Wug.
#1117 [15:16] <L0LV4T> That's incorrect.
#1118 [15:16] * GreyVulpine thwaps Wug over the head
#1118 [15:17] <Wug> L0LV4T: its irc. I get to improvise
#1119 [15:17] <Wug> you work with what you have
#1120 [15:17] <1AVAAA5IU> Wug: *twitch*
#1121 [15:17] * Wug is now known as GanWug
#1121 [15:17] <1AVAAA5IU> Double space after dot *twitch*
#1122 [15:17] <L0LV4T> Uhm... Then explain it to me, what can I do with a toothbrush, oil and a... Dildo?
#1123 [15:17] <1AVAAA5IU> Kick people
#1124 [15:17] <Wug> lets ... not go there
#1125 [15:18] <1AVAAA5IU> Wait, no
#1126 [15:18] <L0LV4T> I thought I can polish the dildo.
#1127 [15:18] <L0LV4T> But I am pretty sure toothbrush won't work so well.
#1128 [15:18] * Wug remounts filesystem as read only
#1128 [15:18] * Wug flushes ram
#1128 [15:18] <Wug> HELLO EVERYONE
#1129 [15:19] <Grim_Reaper> Sigh
#1130 [15:19] <Wug> This is Wug v2.5
#1131 [15:19] <Grim_Reaper> I love how my cat brings me presents
#1132 [15:19] <Grim_Reaper> But a cockroach is NOT a nice one
#1133 [15:19] <Wug> Grim_Reaper: awwww
#1134 [15:19] <Grim_Reaper> The rotting bird corpse was bad enough >_>
#1135 [15:19] <Wug> you know, bugs are delicious
#1136 [15:19] <Grim_Reaper> Cockroaches creep me out x-x
#1137 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> sudo umount /Wug/
#1138 [15:20] * Wug kernel panic
#1138 [15:20] <1AVAAA5IU> sudo mv /Wug/ /dev/null
#1139 [15:20] <Wug> 1AVAAA5IU: invalid. all unix utilities are a link to /bin/wug
#1140 [15:20] <1AVAAA5IU> sudo rm -rf /Wug/
#1141 [15:20] * AuBot kicked 1AVAAA5IU from #minecrafthelp (Reason: AVAAA5IU :Please do not try tricking people with that.)
#1142 [15:21] <Grim_Reaper> lol!
#1143 [15:21] <Wug> lol
#1144 [15:21] * 1AVAAA5IU [1AVAAA5IU@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1145 [15:21] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1145 [15:21] <Grim_Reaper> Owned!
#1146 [15:21] <1AVAAA5IU> ಠ_ಠ
#1147 [15:21] <Grim_Reaper> gg Wug
#1148 [15:21] <Wug> that wasnt even me
#1149 [15:21] <Grim_Reaper> I know
#1150 [15:21] <Grim_Reaper> But you made WugBot kick with that
#1151 [15:21] <1AVAAA5IU> It was AuBot
#1152 [15:21] <Wug> >^
#1153 [15:21] <Grim_Reaper> Oh >_>
#1154 [15:21] <Grim_Reaper> My bad
#1155 [15:21] <1AVAAA5IU> lrn2read
#1156 [15:21] <1AVAAA5IU> :D
#1157 [15:21] <Grim_Reaper> ;;
#1158 [15:21] <L0LV4T> When WugBot kicks Wug, does that count as dividing by zero?
#1159 [15:21] <Wug> rm -rf
#1160 [15:21] <Wug> sudo rm -rf
#1161 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Oh fun.
#1162 [15:21] <1AVAAA5IU> sudo apt-get install reading-comprehension
#1163 [15:21] <Wug> KEALPER
#1164 [15:22] <Grim_Reaper> sudo rm -rf
#1165 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9224481/Researcher_200_000_Windows_PCs_vulnerable_to_pcAnywhere_hijacking
#1166 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9224481/Researcher_200_000_Windows_PCs_vulnerable_to_pcAnywhere_hijacking
#1167 [15:22] <Grim_Reaper> sudo rm -rf /wug/
#1168 [15:22] * AuBot kicked Grim_Reaper from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rim_Reaper :Please do not try tricking people with that.)
#1169 [15:22] * Grim_Reaper [Grim_Reaper@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1170 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> er, bah
#1171 [15:22] <Wug> sudo rm -rf /home/user/some/very/specific/directory
#1172 [15:22] * AuBot kicked Wug from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ug :Please do not try tricking people with that.)
#1173 [15:22] <Grim_Reaper> lol >_>
#1174 [15:22] * Wug [Wug@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1175 [15:22] <Wug> this is probably errant behavior
#1176 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> "As many as 200,000 systems connected to the Internet could be hijacked by hackers exploiting bugs in Symantec's pcAnywhere, including up to 5,000 running point-of-sale programs that collect consumer credit card data, a researcher said today."
#1177 [15:22] <mickster04> lol
#1178 [15:22] <1AVAAA5IU> AuBot does not understand Unix
#1179 [15:22] <1AVAAA5IU> lolwindows
#1180 [15:22] <Wug> more like aubot uses lazy pattern matching
#1181 [15:23] <Wug> !checkherpderp
#1182 [15:23] <Wug> ...
#1183 [15:23] <Grim_Reaper> Every time....
#1184 [15:23] <1AVAAA5IU> ヽ( 。 ヮ゚)ノ
#1185 [15:23] <Grim_Reaper> I get highlighted
#1186 [15:23] <Wug> ;ip
#1187 [15:23] <WugBot> IP address of Wug is: 129.21.137.155
#1188 [15:23] <Wug> AuBot: where the hell did you get that number from
#1189 [15:23] <Wug> !check
#1190 [15:24] <Wug> ;ip AuBot
#1191 [15:24] <WugBot> IP address of AuBot is: 68.42.172.90
#1192 [15:24] <Grim_Reaper> ;;
#1193 [15:24] <Wug> ;ip kealper
#1194 [15:24] <WugBot> IP address of Kealper is: 74.208.227.185
#1195 [15:24] <Grim_Reaper> Bad Wug
#1196 [15:24] <1AVAAA5IU> Non-authoritative answer:
#1197 [15:24] <1AVAAA5IU> 132.65.215.67.in-addr.arpa name = hit-nxdomain.opendns.com.
#1198 [15:24] <1AVAAA5IU> AuBot, wat
#1199 [15:24] <Wug> !checkherpderp
#1200 [15:25] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#1201 [15:25] <Wug> !checkherpderp google.com:80
#1202 [15:25] * Grim_Reaper grrrrs at wug
#1202 [15:25] <1AVAAA5IU> WWW
#1203 [15:25] <Wug> !checkagoogle.com:80
#1204 [15:25] <1AVAAA5IU> That is grim
#1205 [15:25] <Grim_Reaper> p_p
#1206 [15:25] * Wug goes to mch.br
#1206 [15:29] <EyesIsMine> !checka5.5.5.5
#1207 [15:29] <EyesIsMine> !checkamojang.com
#1208 [15:29] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#1209 [15:29] <Grim_Reaper> You guys are evil
#1210 [15:36] <L0LV4T> Uh... Ugh... Into what did I stuble to?
#1211 [15:37] <L0LV4T> Internet is full of weird things.
#1212 [15:37] <L0LV4T> And full of odd people.
#1213 [15:38] <Grim_Reaper> Welcome to the internet/irc where men are men, woman are men, and little girls are FBI agents
#1214 [15:38] <L0LV4T> I think you don't want to know into what did I stumble.
#1215 [15:39] <L0LV4T> Because that's just too odd.
#1216 [15:39] <Grim_Reaper> Actually do tell. It might make me giggle :3
#1217 [15:39] <L0LV4T> Are you 100% sure?
#1218 [15:39] <Grim_Reaper> Yes
#1219 [15:39] <L0LV4T> Uh, okay. I just stumbled into a rule 34 picture of an enderwoman 69'ing with a creeperwoman.
#1220 [15:39] <Grim_Reaper> HAHA
#1221 [15:39] <L0LV4T> I warned you.
#1222 [15:39] <Grim_Reaper> Lol <3
#1223 [15:39] <Grim_Reaper> pm me the link please lol?
#1224 [15:40] <Grim_Reaper> I have to see this >_>
#1225 [15:40] <L0LV4T> On PM only, I think it's illegal to do it here.
#1226 [15:40] <Grim_Reaper> Thats why I said pm me :p
#1227 [15:40] <Grim_Reaper> [22:40] <+Grim_Reaper> pm me the link please lol?
#1228 [15:40] <Grim_Reaper> [22:40] <+Grim_Reaper> I have to see this >_>
#1229 [15:40] <L0LV4T> I mean, it's almost 69, but still.
#1230 [15:44] <Wug> on one hand, im curious
#1231 [15:44] <Wug> on the other hand, im in public
#1232 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Walk... away
#1233 [15:44] <L0LV4T> On the member, you can PM.
#1234 [15:44] <Wug> yeah, I think im going to do that
#1235 [15:44] <Grim_Reaper> Wug it's rather odd
#1236 [15:44] <Grim_Reaper> Not quite what I expected
#1237 [15:44] <Wug> Grim_Reaper: uhh
#1238 [15:44] <L0LV4T> Yeah, it is weird.
#1239 [15:44] <Wug> >creeper/enderwoman r34
#1240 [15:44] <Wug> >odd
#1241 [15:44] <Wug> you think
#1242 [15:45] <L0LV4T> You want to see it?
#1243 [15:45] <Wug> what made you draw that conclusion
#1244 [15:45] <Grim_Reaper> I would imagine the endermen saying "Im gonna steal your your blocks baby"
#1245 [15:45] <Grim_Reaper> And she'll go "Oh thatssssss... ssssssso hot"
#1246 [15:45] * Wug purges day memory again
#1246 [15:46] <L0LV4T> Wug, do you want to see it? Y/N? :P
#1247 [15:46] <Grim_Reaper> Too late L0LV4T
#1248 [15:46] <Wug> if you feel like sharing it with me then link it and im sure my roommates will walk in right as I open it and assume that I have YET ANOTHER fetish
#1249 [15:46] <Grim_Reaper> He has the link
#1250 [15:46] <Grim_Reaper> Lol wug
#1251 [15:46] <Grim_Reaper> Speaking of mc porn actually
#1252 [15:46] <L0LV4T> You gave him the link?
#1253 [15:47] <Wug> at this point the things they think I have fetishes for outnumber things they dont think
#1254 [15:47] <Grim_Reaper> sec getting a link and yes I did
#1255 [15:47] * GreyVulpine coughs
#1255 [15:47] <L0LV4T> Wug: No one can stop Rule 34.
#1256 [15:47] <Wug> its mostly #risucraft's fault
#1257 [15:47] <Grim_Reaper> Minecraft game, a new way to hide your porn! http://pastebin.com/vJBNe4w9
#1258 [15:48] <L0LV4T> It's still, not fap-worthy or how you call that.
#1259 [15:48] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1260 [15:48] <L0LV4T> But people appreciate that.
#1261 [15:48] <L0LV4T> Mostly because it's one of the first rule 34 pictures of Minecraft ever made.
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#1263 [15:49] <Cryp71c> Are there any continuing projects using or similar to MCEdit?
#1264 [15:50] <Cryp71c> It doesnt seem like there is a good level editor anymore?
#1265 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> MCedit's actually pretty good
#1266 [15:50] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1267 [15:50] <Cryp71c> Thought mcedit wasn't being maintained anymore?
#1268 [15:50] <L0LV4T> Grim, what was your first reaction after seeing that?
#1269 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Erm, yeah it is
#1270 [15:50] <L0LV4T> Be honest.
#1271 [15:50] <Wug> no, it is
#1272 [15:50] <Cryp71c> ...
#1273 [15:50] <Wug> but its going to be borky when 1.2 comes out
#1274 [15:50] <Morrolan> Cryp71c - TkTech took over.
#1275 [15:50] <Grim_Reaper> L0LV4T not much
#1276 [15:50] <Wug> for those who do not know, 1.2 is overhauling the save format
#1277 [15:50] <Grim_Reaper> I giggled abit
#1278 [15:51] <L0LV4T> :)
#1279 [15:51] <Cryp71c> Morrolan, is he keeping everything up to date on the official mcedit github, or did he branch it?
#1280 [15:51] <Wug> specifically, the order of blocks saved to the file is being changed from xyz to yxz
#1281 [15:51] <Wug> also, biomes will be stored in chunks, and default map height will be increased to 256
#1282 [15:52] <clarjon1> Wug: ppl on my mc server are annoyed at that
#1283 [15:52] <Wug> Cryp71c: I believe mcedit is self updating
#1284 [15:52] <Morrolan> Cryp71c - I think he's using the "Official" one.
#1285 [15:52] <Morrolan> https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit that one, to be specific.
#1286 [15:52] <Cryp71c> Wug, you made me chuckle...MCEDIT IS UPDATING ITSELF!
#1287 [15:52] <clarjon1> Wug: cuz they just laid the ground for a huge glass dome... terraforming a huge area....
#1288 [15:52] <Cryp71c> Soon, it will be able to EDIT THE WORLD
#1289 [15:53] <Cryp71c> Morrolan, thanks.
#1290 [15:53] <clarjon1> Wug: only to find out that they didn't need to lol
#1291 [15:53] <Wug> clarjon1: what why
#1292 [15:53] <Wug> I dont get it
#1293 [15:54] <Cryp71c> Morrolan, source only?
#1294 [15:54] <Wug> the dome is too tall so they had to indent it and it turns out that the new maps will be tall enough?
#1295 [15:54] <Morrolan> Cryp71c - Uh, I would assume he's gonna compile one every now and then and release it?
#1296 [15:54] <Morrolan> I don't think he has a Jenkins installation somewhere.
#1297 [15:55] <clarjon1> Wug: Because of the new height limit, they wouldn't have had to dig down to terraform the land for the dome.
#1298 [15:55] <Cryp71c> Morrolan, I don't see any compiles available atm.
#1299 [15:55] <Wug> yeah ok.
#1300 [15:55] <Wug> oh well they'll get over it
#1301 [15:55] <Cryp71c> Guess its still being updated to 1.1?
#1302 [15:55] <Morrolan> Cryp71c - I would assume he doesn't think it's time for a new release then?
#1303 [15:55] <Morrolan> Works like a charm on 1.1
#1304 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> I've edited 1.1 maps in MCedit..
#1305 [15:55] <Wug> its not like if they hadnt changed it they would have been able to avoid indenting it
#1306 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> ?? mcedit
#1307 [15:55] <VoxelHead> mcedit: http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/download.html
#1308 [15:55] * GreyVulpine points ^
#1308 [15:56] <Wug> the map format hasnt changed since like 1.5
#1309 [15:56] <Wug> whenever the mcregion format was rolled out
#1310 [15:57] <Wug> I'm making a massive mountain of bookcases
#1311 [15:57] * LilLucy sits really close to GreyVulpine
#1311 [15:58] <Wug> what is a baby wug called
#1312 [15:58] <LilLucy> A wuglet
#1313 [15:58] <LilLucy> Or wuggie
#1314 [16:00] <LilLucy> ;wug
#1315 [16:01] <Grim_Reaper> ;wug
#1316 [16:01] <Grim_Reaper> damnit!
#1317 [16:01] <Wuglet> :wug
#1318 [16:01] <WugBot> wug: http://i.imgur.com/4dt56.png
#1319 [16:01] <Wuglet> :wugbeard
#1320 [16:01] <Wuglet> :beardwug
#1321 [16:01] <Wuglet> ;search beard
#1322 [16:01] <WugBot> No matches for "beard".
#1323 [16:01] <Wuglet> CRAP
#1324 [16:01] <Wuglet> ;search imgur
#1325 [16:01] <WugBot> Matches for "imgur": wug
#1326 [16:01] <Wuglet> dang
#1327 [16:02] <Wuglet> SAVE
#1328 [16:02] <Wuglet> ;+ wugbeard http://i.imgur.com/au5T0.png
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#1330 [16:03] <NotiCon> hehe
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#1335 [16:39] <L0LV4T> HL1 AI is so weird.
#1336 [16:40] <L0LV4T> Got killed by a shottyman, and in less than a minute the whole squad came to my body to just stare.
#1337 [16:40] <L0LV4T> That's creepy. :(
#1338 [16:40] <Eddie> I killed a scientist once and he kept talking
#1339 [16:41] <Eddie> "I'm quite busy right now"
#1340 [16:41] <L0LV4T> Eddie.
#1341 [16:41] <L0LV4T> I did the same thing.
#1342 [16:41] <L0LV4T> Killed the sciencist, the head was spinned 180 and when I kept pressing E, he said "I'm really dizzy right now".
#1343 [16:41] <Eddie> lol
#1344 [16:42] <L0LV4T> PLEASE, LEAVE ME ALONE TO AFTER THE EXPERIMENT!
#1345 [16:43] <Eddie> yes
#1346 [16:43] <L0LV4T> I understand them. It's kinda dickish to place bullets in your friend's head.
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#1351 [17:21] <|Anthony|> can i use a world from a single player survival game to start a multiplayer world?
#1352 [17:21] <Morrolan> Yes.
#1353 [17:21] <|Anthony|> is it just the level.dat file i need or is there more to it?
#1354 [17:22] <Morrolan> The whole saves folder. If you use just the level.dat you'll get the same world, but without any modifications you made.
#1355 [17:22] <|Anthony|> k
#1356 [17:22] <Morrolan> You'll also have to either edit world-name in server.properties or rename your world.
#1357 [17:22] <Morrolan> Just so the property is the same as the name of your world.
#1358 [17:23] <|Anthony|> do i need to create an individual folder for the world (like the saves folder) or just put it in the minecraft_server folder
#1359 [17:23] <|Anthony|> like if i wanted to host multiple worlds
#1360 [17:24] <Morrolan> each world needs a folder.
#1361 [17:24] <Morrolan> Just like the saves in .minecraft\saves
#1362 [17:25] <|Anthony|> ok, so is there a naming scheme for the server saves? like would it be .minecraft/server/saves
#1363 [17:26] <|Anthony|> or will minecraft be able to sort through the directory structure
#1364 [17:26] <Morrolan> As I said. The server will load the world whose name you specify in server.properties
#1365 [17:26] <|Anthony|> mmm
#1366 [17:26] <|Anthony|> k
#1367 [17:26] <Morrolan> If you want to have more than one world (not including nether and end) at once you'll need bukkit + a plugin.
#1368 [17:26] <Morrolan> e.g. Multiverse
#1369 [17:26] <|Anthony|> gotcha
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#1371 [17:45] <L0LV4T> Eddie.
#1372 [17:45] <L0LV4T> I have died possibly the silliest death ever.
#1373 [17:45] <Eddie> L0LV4T
#1374 [17:45] <Eddie> Really now?
#1375 [17:46] <L0LV4T> I tried to fastly slide into another room, but a damn sergeant launched a grenade, it exploded, I died and I flied directly into a pipe that took me to non-existence.
#1376 [17:46] <L0LV4T> That's called trash disposal, eh?
#1377 [17:48] <Eddie> yes
#1378 [17:49] <Eddie> This... is... BLACK MESA!!!!
#1379 [17:49] <Eddie> AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHRGGHHHH
#1380 [17:50] <Eddie> VoxelHead needs to die
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#1382 [17:54] <|Kiikun|> VoxelHead: eat yourself!
#1383 [17:54] <|Kiikun|> :P
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#1388 [18:48] <ethan> i died in lava is there any way, using mcedit or another program, to get my stuff back? i had lots of vluables
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#1390 [18:50] <ethan> i died in lava. is there any way, using mcedit or another program, to get my stuff back? i had lots of valuables
#1391 [18:51] <ethan> does anyone know?
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#1393 [18:57] <Cole36912> ;ip
#1394 [18:57] <WugBot> IP address of Cole36912 is: 98.155.13.134
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#1396 [18:57] <bill> i died in lava. is there any way, using mcedit or another program, to get my stuff back? i had lots of valuables
#1397 [18:58] <AM3> bill: NBTEDIT will do it
#1398 [18:58] <bill> ok thanks
#1399 [18:59] <AM3> bill: Assuming single player I should add. On a server it's up to the server admin and ops.
#1400 [18:59] <bill> yes, its single player. so i can get back lost items?
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#1402 [19:00] <Cole36912> !check 98.155.13.134
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#1404 [19:01] <AM3> bill: NBTEDIT let's you add whatever items you want to your inventory, using the item codes from the minecraftwiki. Otherwise MCEDIT *might* have a similar function, but I've never used it.
#1405 [19:02] <bill> ok and does that mean i can add enchanted items?
#1406 [19:02] <Morrolan> bill - I suggest you use INVEdit though, if you just want to edit your inventory it's faar more convenient.
#1407 [19:02] <Cole36912> With NBT edit, yes
#1408 [19:03] <bill> ok thanks very much. i wish i could know ALL the items i had, but thanks very much for the help!
#1409 [19:04] <Cole36912> ;search ipv4
#1410 [19:04] <WugBot> No matches for "ipv4".
#1411 [19:04] <Cole36912> ~
#1412 [19:05] <Cole36912>
#1413 [19:05] <Cole36912>
#1414 [19:05] <Cole36912> ;help
#1415 [19:06] <Cole36912> ;
#1416 [19:07] <Morrolan> If you want to play around with WugBot then ##wugbot might prove useful, Cole36912.
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#1418 [19:13] <Zantherus> hi
#1419 [19:14] <Zantherus> im trying to connect to a server and i always get same problem
#1420 [19:14] <Zantherus> hold in.
#1421 [19:14] <Zantherus> on*
#1422 [19:14] <Cole36912> ##wugbot
#1423 [19:14] * Eddie kills VoxelHead
#1423 [19:14] <Zantherus> hi
#1424 [19:14] <Zantherus> 1 second.
#1425 [19:14] <AM3> Zantherus: what error message and which server?
#1426 [19:15] <Zantherus> AM3, every server i try to join, 1 sec ill get the error
#1427 [19:15] <AM3> Cole36912: you want to type /join ##wugbot
#1428 [19:16] <Cole36912> what message?
#1429 [19:16] <Zantherus> it starts connection then says.
#1430 [19:16] <Zantherus> Connection Lost Failed to login:Bad login
#1431 [19:16] <Zantherus> and it isn't the server because it has like 19 people on it.
#1432 [19:17] <Cole36912> did you log in on the minecraft launcher?
#1433 [19:17] <Zantherus> yes.
#1434 [19:17] <Cole36912> did you make sure you are on the same version as the server
#1435 [19:18] <AM3> !check par.beastnode.com
#1436 [19:18] <Zantherus> cole how do i check?
#1437 [19:18] <AM3> Zantherus: see if you get the same error with par.beastnode.com
#1438 [19:18] <Zantherus> yes, i do AM3
#1439 [19:19] <Cole36912> are you running 1.1?
#1440 [19:19] <AM3> Zantherus: Ok, have you uninstalled Java and installed only Java 6 ?
#1441 [19:19] <Zantherus> yes i am running 1.1 cole
#1442 [19:19] <Zantherus> Am3, it's not a java problem,
#1443 [19:19] <Cole36912> does anyone else us your account?
#1444 [19:19] <Zantherus> maybe cole, why?
#1445 [19:20] <Cole36912> you cant both play multiplayer at the same time
#1446 [19:20] <Zantherus> oh, im not sure.
#1447 [19:20] <Zantherus> hold on lemme see sumthin.
#1448 [19:22] <Zantherus> got it working ty
#1449 [19:22] <Cole36912> how?
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#1451 [19:23] <Cole36912> -
#1452 [19:23] <AndIrc> I need help with mc Pocket edition
#1453 [19:23] <Cole36912> ok
#1454 [19:23] <Cole36912> what do you need?
#1455 [19:24] <Cole36912> ...
#1456 [19:24] <AndIrc> multiplayer will not connect...2 fones same WiFi. both set to visable but will not find eachother
#1457 [19:25] <AndIrc> tried multiple routers
#1458 [19:25] <Cole36912> Have you made sure both phones have internet
#1459 [19:26] <AndIrc> I would to email mojang but I can't seem to find any kind of support
#1460 [19:26] <AndIrc> yes
#1461 [19:26] <Cole36912> and they are both androids?
#1462 [19:26] <AndIrc> yes..htc inspire htc rezound
#1463 [19:27] <Cole36912> what king of routers are you using?
#1464 [19:27] <Cole36912> kind*
#1465 [19:27] <AndIrc> linksys...and another that was provided by my isp some off brand
#1466 [19:28] <AndIrc> comtrend lol
#1467 [19:28] <Cole36912> hmm
#1468 [19:29] <AndIrc> no one seems to have any answers for me..I've been ask
#1469 [19:29] <Cole36912> so in the menu the button says "server set to visible"
#1470 [19:29] <AndIrc> I've been asking and trying for awhile...yes it is visable
#1471 [19:30] <AndIrc> completly open WiFi..
#1472 [19:30] <Cole36912> hmm
#1473 [19:31] <Cole36912> has it ever even seemed to work
#1474 [19:31] <AndIrc> yea and anywhere I search there isn't anyone else with this problem..
#1475 [19:31] <AndIrc> nope..tried with previous versions also
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#1477 [19:32] <AndIrc> I've been trying sense the game came out basically
#1478 [19:32] <AndIrc> ugh I wish I could contact someone in the company
#1479 [19:33] <AndIrc> posted on minecraft forum..posted on stupid Twitter.. no answers
#1480 [19:33] <AndIrc> I miss contact phone numbers
#1481 [19:34] <Cole36912> do both phones have the most recent update?
#1482 [19:34] <rhyser9> Hello, I keep trying to download my .minecraft but the download gets stuck at: lwjgl.jar 0%..... Does anyone have an idea why MC won't download for me?
#1483 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> Yes rhyser9, check your AV.
#1484 [19:35] <rhyser9> AV?
#1485 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> Avast, AVG, Avira, Mcafee, and norton's been known to block lwjgl
#1486 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> Antivirus software
#1487 [19:35] <rhyser9> ohhhhh
#1488 [19:35] <rhyser9> lol... I just got Avast and AVG... I'm suprised Norton didnt block it though
#1489 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> Turn off AVG's linkscanner module, been known around here to block it
#1490 [19:36] <AndIrc> no anti virus at all.
#1491 [19:36] <AndIrc> both phones on 0.2.0
#1492 [19:37] <Cole36912> are they both on this list http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Pocket_Edition_hardware_performance_(Android)
#1493 [19:39] <AndIrc> rezound doesnt apear there but inspire is..resound is a pretty new phone with the dual core processor maybe has issues with other phones because that
#1494 [19:40] <Cole36912> perhaps
#1495 [19:41] <AndIrc> I'm just shocked that there is nowhere to report bugs or support for issues..its not like these programs are free..I paid I expect some kind of contact
#1496 [19:42] <AndIrc> only reason I bought the game was for multiplayer ya know
#1497 [19:42] <Cole36912> yeah
#1498 [19:43] <AndIrc> frustrating lol
#1499 [19:43] <AndIrc> I'm a network computer engineer so its not like I don't know what's goin on lol
#1500 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Join the club. Either people figure it out on their own and never share their solutions, or they post in some forum topic, never to see help.
#1501 [19:44] <Cole36912> you should try to contact mojang
#1502 [19:44] <AndIrc> how do they expect to fix issues if there is no way to report it lol. pretty lame of mojang
#1503 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Mojang's a bit tough to get help from
#1504 [19:45] <AndIrc> yea I would love to....please tell me where to contact them at.. because I've looked..there is no way to contact
#1505 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> This channel was set up for other Minecraft players to help fellow minecraft players.
#1506 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> help.mojang.com
#1507 [19:45] <AndIrc> been there no dice
#1508 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, not a whole lot of people who play on Android/iOS devices come here.
#1509 [19:46] <AndIrc> yea I figured as much.
#1510 [19:46] <rhyser9> Ok Got it... THX
#1511 [19:46] <AndIrc> I couldnt even contact them if I wanted to give them a million dollars
#1512 [19:46] <AndIrc> I don't though lol
#1513 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Google maps -> Mojang AB, sweden
#1514 [19:47] <AndIrc> lol
#1515 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Fancy a long distance call?
#1516 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Number's right there
#1517 [19:47] <rhyser9> They'd prob answer it but not talk to you for 10 mins lol
#1518 [19:47] <rhyser9> jk
#1519 [19:47] <AndIrc> sure I'm on my phone right now free long distance nice
#1520 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> I doubt your phone will give you free long distance overseas..
#1521 [19:48] <AndIrc> I'm callin them..hope they speak English
#1522 [19:48] <AndIrc> unlimted everything..
#1523 [19:48] <rhyser9> F*CK the download stopped agian...
#1524 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> You also realize they're in Sweden
#1525 [19:48] <rhyser9> lol
#1526 [19:48] <AndIrc> yea damn closed
#1527 [19:49] <AndIrc> ok set alarm for 4am to call lol
#1528 [19:50] <rhyser9> YES it works now
#1529 [19:50] <Scott> Do they even answer the phone? :s
#1530 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> No idea
#1531 [19:51] <Scott> They probably got a PBX and you have to enter a valid extension #.
#1532 [19:52] <AndIrc> lol no they don't answer
#1533 [19:53] <AndIrc> I can't beleive this game has zero support
#1534 [19:53] <AndIrc> stupid Swedes..
#1535 [19:54] <AndIrc> they can program but can't hire someone for 10 bucks an he to answer the phone
#1536 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> I don't think you realize the volume of support requests they get daily
#1537 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Also, the size of their company
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#1540 [19:58] <slayer_1> I am experiencing poor performance and hanging on my system. Anyone want to take a crack and diagnosing?
#1541 [19:59] <slayer_1> *at diagnosing?
#1542 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Specs? Operating system? RAM?
#1543 [19:59] <slayer_1> Windows 7 Ult. 64-bit, 16 gB
#1544 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Video card? Version of java installed?
#1545 [19:59] <AndIrc> yea I'm sure there is a ton of support requests..I know they only have 17 people that work for them also. I can't understand how they expect to make a working product without any sort of issue reporting..ok I'm done ranting thx for the help
#1546 [20:00] <slayer_1> Asus GTX 560 1 gB, checking java version
#1547 [20:00] <slayer_1> Java 6 Update 30
#1548 [20:00] <slayer_1> 6.0.300
#1549 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> This a laptop?
#1550 [20:01] <slayer_1> no, it's a monster pc
#1551 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> A desktop?
#1552 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a dxdiag?
#1553 [20:02] <slayer_1> AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 3.6GHz processor
#1554 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> ??> slayer_1 win/dxdiag
#1555 [20:02] <VoxelHead> slayer_1: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1556 [20:02] <VoxelHead> slayer_1: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1557 [20:03] <slayer_1> k, just a second
#1558 [20:04] <slayer_1> http://pastebin.com/8vQkDHeN
#1559 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> I see no physical reason why minecraft should run slowly on that machine.
#1560 [20:08] <slayer_1> tell me about it ;)
#1561 [20:08] <slayer_1> this thing should crush the worst I could throw at it from Minecraft
#1562 [20:08] <slayer_1> I got an "Out of Memory Exception" after I let the game run for a while once.
#1563 [20:08] <slayer_1> 64 bit problem?
#1564 [20:08] <slayer_1> Can I send crash logs to anyone?
#1565 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, uninstall java completely. Reinstall 64 bit java
#1566 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you're running java 6
#1567 [20:09] <slayer_1> it's worth a shot. I'll make sure to get back on and let you know if that works.
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#1574 [20:30] <slayer_1> installing 64-bit java appears to have fixed it.
#1575 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> \o/
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#1578 [21:00] <Trebrous> hi
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#1583 [21:28] <jschuur> I'm having some problems installing the Not Enough Items mod. Followed all the instructions: ModLoader, ModLoaderMP, Mod Forge and the ChickenCoreClient are installed, but when I install NEI into the JAR, I get a black screen after I log in. Any debug tips? TMI wasn't installed and this is a fresh MC 1.1 install.
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#1586 [21:30] <clarjon1> ??> jschuur mods
#1587 [21:30] <VoxelHead> jschuur: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#1588 [21:30] <VoxelHead> jschuur: (mods) as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1589 [21:30] <Evo> Is there a help channel for Forge?
#1590 [21:30] <clarjon1> jschuur: also, make sure to delete META_INF
#1591 [21:31] <clarjon1> and run from a command line window so you can see any errors. :P
#1592 [21:31] <clarjon1> other than that, you'll have to post a help request on the mod's forum topic
#1593 [21:31] <jschuur> clarjon1: Yeah, I did delete META_INF, but good tip on the command line, I'll give that a shot
#1594 [21:31] <Wug> Evo: #mcforge maybe?
#1595 [21:31] <Evo> ty
#1596 [21:32] <clarjon1> jschuur: make sure to read the mod forum page. Perhaps it has an 'official' channel for it's mod. if not, you'll have to either reply to the topic, pm the author, etc etc.
#1597 [21:32] <jschuur> clarjon1: I half expect people to accuse me of not having followed the instructions, so I thought I'd try a place with more interactivity first, to see if there's more debugging I can do..
#1598 [21:32] <clarjon1> jschuur: we don't really support mods as there's too damn many of 'em to keep up with :)
#1599 [21:32] <Evo> Wug Empty :/
#1600 [21:32] <jschuur> Gotcha, will do. This is one of the more common mods, so I thought perhaps someone might have an idea. Thanks.
#1601 [21:33] <Wug> Evo: try #forge then?
#1602 [21:33] <Wug> I don't actually know. try a few
#1603 [21:33] <clarjon1> jschuur: well, once you see if there are any errors, you can then scan the topic pages to see if someone else has had that same issue :)
#1604 [21:33] <Evo> I tried
#1605 [21:33] <Evo> I just need to know how to update it...
#1606 [21:33] <Evo> I triend just putting the files into the jar like I did when installing it the first time.. but i get errors
#1607 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Force Update to get fresh files, install the mod again
#1608 [21:34] <Evo> but i have so many other mods.
#1609 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> There's no other way
#1610 [21:34] <Wug> Evo: apparently its #minecraftforge
#1611 [21:34] <jschuur> clarjon1: Hmm. How do I get MC to output debug info if I launch via command line? Using a Mac here. If I just 'open Minecraft.app' form the Terminal, I don't see any additional output.
#1612 [21:34] <Evo> thanks wut
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#1614 [21:35] <clarjon1> jschuur: get the .jar launcher, and run java -jar ./minecraft.jar
#1615 [21:35] <clarjon1> jschuur: replacing, of course, minecraft.jar with the name of the launcher file
#1616 [21:36] <jschuur> clarjon1: What does '.jar launcher' refer to? Is that a generic Java tool or a MC specific utility?
#1617 [21:36] <clarjon1> jschuur: from minecraft.net/download
#1618 [21:37] <Wug> ;search client
#1619 [21:37] <WugBot> Matches for "client": account/mojang ascii client dont/ding linux/client mac/client rc win/client
#1620 [21:37] <Wug> :linux/client
#1621 [21:37] <WugBot> linux/client: Cross Platform minecraft launcher: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1622 [21:37] <clarjon1> that one
#1623 [21:37] <jschuur> clarjon1: Ahh, from the Linux downloads. Got it.
#1624 [21:41] <jschuur> Ahh, looks like it could be Forge related: Exception in thread "Thread-8" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: forge/IShearable
#1625 [21:41] <jschuur> (I'll ask on the Forge channel)
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#1627 [21:42] <clarjon1> jschuur: and some say that the command line is no longer relevant ;) lol
#1628 [21:42] <jschuur> clarjon1: I write Rails apps. Still very relevant ;)
#1629 [21:42] <jschuur> Kids these days with their newfangled launchers I tell you!
#1630 [21:43] * GreyVulpine shakes cane, "Git off mah lawn!"
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#1631 [21:46] <jschuur> Uphill! Through the snow! Both ways!
#1632 [21:55] <jschuur> Well, for record, it looks like my install process failed to copy some of the .class files over. Problem solved.
#1633 [21:56] <jschuur> Now onto the real problem of figuring out how much of my life I want to pour into Red Power and Industrial & Buildcraft ;)
#1634 [21:58] <clarjon1> lol
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#1636 [22:31] * |Kiikun|Janus| thinks redpower takes all the skill out of building redstone circuits :P
#1636 [22:34] <jschuur> If by 'skill' you mean 'kludgy space talking workarounds', then yes ;)
#1637 [22:35] <jschuur> ...taking...
#1638 [22:36] <|Kiikun|> part of the skill is being able to minimize the space it takes :3
#1639 [22:37] <|Kiikun|> or minimize the needed resources
#1640 [22:37] * |Kiikun| hops on a bike and rides all over GreyVulpine's lawn
#1640 [22:38] <jschuur> I barely touched redstone and it already drove me crazy that you couldn't easily have currents travel vertically.
#1641 [22:38] <|Kiikun|> ill give you that one. but theres other still simple ways
#1642 [22:39] * |Kiikun| still prefers his piston vertical power transfer stuff :P
#1642 [22:40] <jschuur> Industrialcraft automation is currently blowing my mind.
#1643 [22:40] <jschuur> And by 'blowing my mind' I mean I'm watching other people use it in YouTube videos and quietly weeping at their comprehension skills
#1644 [22:40] <|Kiikun|> IC an BC turn minecraft from 'dig and build!' to 'build contraptions to do everything for you.'
#1645 [22:42] <jschuur> Yeah, but there's more diversity in what you can build, and it's more rewarding on an intellectual level. Digging ends up being a little too monotonous for my taste
#1646 [22:42] <|Kiikun|> while i woudl love some legit wat to put items in chests...
#1647 [22:43] <jschuur> Me to. I built a little wheat farm the other day with a water harvester in the unmodded game, but it's hardly 'automatic'
#1648 [22:43] <|Kiikun|> you dont want a whear farm to be automatic... unless its the breadmaker :P
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#1650 [22:45] <jschuur> I wouldn't call it automatic until it has one ;)
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#1652 [22:49] <|Kiikun|> breadmaker is this. http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3De7c7w_ND-4Q&session_token=Dv5k-fXsnOjG-uzs6kmEr5v_L598MTMzMDA1NTE5M0AxMzI5OTY4Nzkz
#1653 [22:49] <|Kiikun|> erm..
#1654 [22:49] <|Kiikun|> damn youtube links!
#1655 [22:49] <|Kiikun|> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7c7w_ND-4Q
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#1657 [22:51] <jschuur> Just a few more views than my wheat farm video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAc766Obid0
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#1660 [22:54] <|Kiikun|> eh, not bad. though im still of the belief that verticly falling water ERASES things instead of causing them to pop.
#1661 [22:55] <jschuur> I only recently started playing MC again. I don't have all the legacy cruft built up in my brain
#1662 [22:56] * |Kiikun| has one on the server that can grow 104 wheat.
#1662 [22:57] <|Kiikun|> oh.. and water hydrates farmlan up to 4 blocks away :3
#1663 [22:57] <jschuur> reseeding sounds like it's a a real time suck then
#1664 [22:58] <jschuur> Yeah, I found that out after the video
#1665 [22:58] <jschuur> I must have been thinking of sugar cane
#1666 [22:58] <|Kiikun|> nah. i only collect rarely and its just holding down the rightlick on my newly gained seed stacks
#1667 [22:59] <|Kiikun|> thin i just run arround replanting :P
#1668 [22:59] <|Kiikun|> clearing the tree leaves from my tree farm is more timeconsuming
#1669 [22:59] <jschuur> That seems to be a common problems too. Seeds and wheat not always going where it's supposed to and requiring manual cleanup
#1670 [22:59] <jschuur> ...problem...
#1671 [23:01] * |Kiikun| blinks at sausages.
#1671 [23:03] <|Kiikun|> hotdogs do that too. cooking 40 on a flattop grill is fun to watch them try and 'escape'
#1672 [23:04] <jschuur> Ohh. you're still looking at my YouTube channel.
#1673 [23:04] <jschuur> You're not just some crazy guy who changes the topic randomly
#1674 [23:04] <|Kiikun|> yes :P just that one
#1675 [23:04] <|Kiikun|> i COULD be...
#1676 [23:05] <jschuur> Oh, I am, quite often.
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#1681 [23:24] <|Kiikun|> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NexG6gWy3w
#1682 [23:24] <|Kiikun|> ooo...
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#1691 [23:54] <SinZ> AMD64 is just 64bit, right?
#1692 [23:54] <SinZ> an intel core 2 quad can use an AMD64 type OS
#1693 [23:54] <SinZ> right?
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