#1 [00:10] <zkxs> this? http://scoutshonour.com/digital/
#2 [00:12] <sugoi> zkxs: heh, no, but interesting
#3 [00:12] <zkxs> eh, that is the only love letter game I know of
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#6 [00:15] <sugoi> zkxs: AH HA, found it
#7 [00:15] <sugoi> http://axcho.com/theloveletter/
#8 [00:15] <|Kiichan|Schala|> sugoi: yes it was me :P
#9 [00:15] <sugoi> |Kiichan|Schala|: oh NOW you show up
#10 [00:16] <|Kiichan|Schala|> yup]
#11 [00:16] <|Kiichan|Schala|> hehehe
#12 [00:16] <|Kiichan|Schala|> and i saw it on a tweet by ez
#13 [00:16] * |Kiichan|Schala| is ashamed of himself for having twitter
#13 [00:16] <sugoi> and you should be!
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#17 [00:19] <Deviant_Zangoose> So, why am I not able to use my card to purchase Minecraft for another 24 hours? I really don't understand why they temporarily blacklisted my card number.
#18 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Use paypal instead of Moneybookers
#19 [00:20] <clarjon1> huh?
#20 [00:20] <clarjon1> heh
#21 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Moneybookers will give that silly 24 hour lockout thing
#22 [00:20] <clarjon1> ah, moneybookers is still having that issue, eh
#23 [00:20] <Deviant_Zangoose> It errors with paypal as well.
#24 [00:20] <clarjon1> well, that's a MoneyBookers issue -- you should shoot a bug report off to them :)
#25 [00:21] <Deviant_Zangoose> At least I know it's not Mojang that blacklisted my card number. I was seriously about to rage at that. Thanks for what help ya'll could give me!
#26 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> Then call up your bank, see if they're holding payment for any reason. We typically see banks deny/stop payment because of international anti-fraud prevention
#27 [00:22] <Deviant_Zangoose> It's a gift card I got from my friend for my birthday today. I only have $2 in my bank lmao!
#28 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> ?? prepaid
#29 [00:23] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#30 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> ^
#31 [00:23] <Deviant_Zangoose> So I'm at a total loss of what to do. I don't supposed it's possible to transfer the funds from the card into my bank, is it?
#32 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> That's something you'll need to talk to your bank for.
#33 [00:24] <zkxs> huh, that is a curious game mechanic. I felt rather antisocial...
#34 [00:24] <sugoi> zkxs: did you finish the letter!? :)
#35 [00:25] <zkxs> yes
#36 [00:25] <sugoi> zkxs: i thought it was quite clever, thank |Kiichan|Schala|
#37 [00:25] <|Kiichan|Schala|> zkxs: thats actually how most of my high school years went. me looking for a corner noone would bother me :P
#38 [00:25] * zkxs thanks kiichan
#38 [00:25] <zkxs> :P I don't have that problem
#39 [00:26] <|Kiichan|Schala|> hmm... wasnt ez a resident of #minecraft? o.o;
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#56 [03:46] <_303> voxelhead++
#57 [03:47] <tyteen4a03> lolol
#58 [03:58] <TheNoodle> \o/
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#65 [04:47] <auscompgeek> win
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#68 [04:56] <sugoi> auscompgeek: ?
#69 [04:56] <auscompgeek> oh
#70 [04:56] <zavist> what's a good mob grinder design for items that works with the 1.2 ai?
#71 [04:56] <zavist> all i can find are xp grinders when searching for tutorials lately
#72 [04:57] <sugoi> zavist: i don't know, but what is special about 1.2 ai that doesn't work with the tutorials you have found?
#73 [04:57] <zavist> mobs stop moving >32 blocks from you, or so i've heard
#74 [04:57] <sugoi> zavist: ah, that sounds quite possible
#75 [04:58] <sugoi> zavist: thought of increasing use of height, and not just a single floor room
#76 [04:58] <sugoi> such as with many balconies, and water to bring them down to your level
#77 [04:58] <zavist> that could work, but if the distance limit is only horizontal i guess
#78 [04:58] <zavist> i'm not even sure how that new ai works right now
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#80 [05:12] <auscompgeek> I haven't opened up 12w07b and played in easy yet.
#81 [05:12] <auscompgeek> so I don't know either.
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#83 [05:15] <zoecat> my friend cant join my server for some reason
#84 [05:17] <zoecat> hello?
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#88 [05:19] <auscompgeek> zoecat: what error
#89 [05:21] <zoecat> well the server is white list and his name is in it but he cant connect even when the server thingy is running
#90 [05:24] <sugoi> zoecat: i believe we helped you earlier today?
#91 [05:24] <zoecat> yes
#92 [05:25] <sugoi> can other people, besides this one friend, connect successfuly?
#93 [05:26] <zoecat> well i have never tried because all my other friends don't have minecraft
#94 [05:26] <sugoi> ;check zoecat
#95 [05:26] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 60-240-220-186.static.tpgi.com.au:25565 (Timed out)
#96 [05:27] <zoecat> ?
#97 [05:27] <sugoi> zoecat: can you personally connect to your own server?
#98 [05:27] <zoecat> tyes
#99 [05:27] <zoecat> yes
#100 [05:27] <sugoi> are you running the game and server on the same machine?
#101 [05:27] <zoecat> yes
#102 [05:28] <sugoi> are you using a port-forwarding rule on your router?
#103 [05:28] <zoecat> ?
#104 [05:28] <sugoi> is your friend at your house? or connecting from somewhere else?
#105 [05:29] <zoecat> connecting from somewhere else
#106 [05:30] <sugoi> then you will need to setup port forwarding on your router to your machine
#107 [05:30] <zoecat> o
#108 [05:30] <zoecat> ok
#109 [05:30] <sugoi> step 1. get your machine's ip address
#110 [05:31] <zoecat> k hold on
#111 [05:32] <auscompgeek> the ipconfig command should give it
#112 [05:32] <zoecat> 60.240.220.186
#113 [05:32] <EyesIsMine> port forward
#114 [05:33] <auscompgeek> he said get your *machine's* IP
#115 [05:33] <auscompgeek> not your internet IP
#116 [05:33] <zoecat> o
#117 [05:33] <sugoi> zoecat: that's your public ip (or outward facing ip)
#118 [05:33] <EyesIsMine> 192.168.1.254 /. 192.168.1.1 / 192.168.0.1
#119 [05:33] <EyesIsMine> three common router ips
#120 [05:33] <EyesIsMine> use those to add a port forward rule
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#122 [05:34] <zoecat> afk
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#124 [05:34] <sugoi> zoecat: open a command window (hold the windows button, and press 'R', then in the little dialog window that pops up, type 'cmd')
#125 [05:34] <EyesIsMine> then install git linux utils
#126 [05:34] <EyesIsMine> makes everything ten times easier
#127 [05:35] <EyesIsMine> ls on windows
#128 [05:35] <auscompgeek> EyesIsMine: for people that have the time to that is
#129 [05:35] <sugoi> zoecat: then you'll see a command window, type ipconfig and press enter, you'll find something like: IPv4 Address. . . . . . . .192.168.1.3
#130 [05:36] * EyesIsMine slaps VoxelHead
#130 [05:36] * sugoi thanks EyesIsMine
#130 [05:36] * EyesIsMine np
#130 [05:37] <sugoi> zoecat: i know you're away, but i'll just keep explaining - don't get overwhelmed with the process, if you skip a step as i've explained this will just take longer
#131 [05:38] <zoecat> um...... there's nothing like that
#132 [05:38] <sugoi> zoecat: nothing like what?
#133 [05:38] <sugoi> did your cmd window come up?
#134 [05:38] <zoecat> yes
#135 [05:38] <sugoi> did you type ipconfig and press enter?
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#137 [05:38] <zoecat> er......... no
#138 [05:39] <sugoi> :)
#139 [05:39] <auscompgeek> don't type so many dots man
#140 [05:39] <sugoi> voxel can be a little controlling
#141 [05:40] <zoecat> ok now theres something
#142 [05:40] <sugoi> cool
#143 [05:40] <sugoi> what is it? [don't worry, it doesn't hurt to share]
#144 [05:41] <zoecat> 192.168.1.2 that?
#145 [05:41] <sugoi> mine is 192.168.8.4, in case you wanted to know :)
#146 [05:41] <sugoi> yes
#147 [05:41] <sugoi> ok, now open a web browser, and enter the address: http://192.168.1.1
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#149 [05:41] * TheNoodle sighs
#149 [05:41] <sugoi> TheNoodle: sup?
#150 [05:42] <zoecat> ok now
#151 [05:42] <sugoi> zoecat: do you know your router's password?
#152 [05:42] <zoecat> I think so
#153 [05:42] <sugoi> zoecat: if you have netgear and you have never set a password, it'll be username: admin, password: password
#154 [05:42] <zoecat> yes
#155 [05:43] <sugoi> so you're in?
#156 [05:43] <zoecat> by the way i have netcomm
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#158 [05:43] <zoecat> yes
#159 [05:43] <AussieMaggy4510> How many mods can i install
#160 [05:44] <sugoi> zoecat: i have no experience with netcomm, so you will have to figure some of the next part on your own
#161 [05:44] <zoecat> right
#162 [05:44] <sugoi> AussieMaggy4510: probably less than 16,384
#163 [05:45] <sugoi> zoecat: you'll need to find how to create/add a new "port forwarding" rule
#164 [05:45] <AussieMaggy4510> and why crashed minecraft
#165 [05:45] <zoecat> ok
#166 [05:45] <sugoi> zoecat: when you do find that, tell your router to forward port 25565 to ip 192.168.1.2
#167 [05:45] <sugoi> AussieMaggy4510: you'll have to ask the mod maker
#168 [05:45] <zoecat> k
#169 [05:45] <sugoi> zoecat: then click 'apply', or 'ok', or 'save', or 'make it so', or what ever your router calls it :)
#170 [05:46] <AussieMaggy4510> i've lots of mods
#171 [05:46] <sugoi> AussieMaggy4510: then remove them all, and add one at a time until it crashse
#172 [05:46] <AussieMaggy4510> so i can't ask those modmakers
#173 [05:46] <sugoi> AussieMaggy4510: you'll have to do some leg work to figure out which mod is causing the crash
#174 [05:47] <AussieMaggy4510> or can you tell me that with the crash-report
#175 [05:47] <sugoi> AussieMaggy4510: note, your console window from where you run the server might dump a call stack for you, and might show which mod was running when it crashed
#176 [05:47] <sugoi> AussieMaggy4510: that's possible - keep in mind, #minecrafthelp (this channel) is for vanilla client+server, not mods
#177 [05:47] <sugoi> but i'm happy to help
#178 [05:47] <sugoi> AussieMaggy4510: pastebin your report, and give us the url
#179 [05:48] <AussieMaggy4510> ok moment...
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#181 [05:48] <AussieMaggy4510> http://mibpaste.com/43YXj2
#182 [05:50] <sugoi> AussieMaggy4510: i would guess it is mod_MinecraftForge
#183 [05:59] <AussieMaggy4510> so i must install minecraft mods without mcforge
#184 [05:59] <sugoi> AussieMaggy4510: or, move forge out of your plugins folder, restart the server see if it is fixed
#185 [05:59] <zoecat> something happened and now I cant get to the site
#186 [06:00] <sugoi> AussieMaggy4510: if that fixes it, then get the latest forge version (even if you think you have the latest, just in case it is b0rked)
#187 [06:00] <zoecat> i don't know what
#188 [06:00] <sugoi> zoecat: you clicked apply and now you can't reach your router?
#189 [06:00] <sugoi> zoecat: sometimes routers are slow and it takes a minute or so for it to finish the 'apply'
#190 [06:01] <sugoi> AussieMaggy4510: if 1. removing forge fixes your problems, and 2. getting (or re-getting) the latest forge does not fix your problem, then contact the forge mod forum and give them your error details
#191 [06:01] <sugoi> auscompgeek: but at this point, we're not mod-support
#192 [06:02] <zoecat> no when i went of the page and went back on i could not connect
#193 [06:02] <sugoi> you went to the page and went back on? what do you mean you "went back on"?
#194 [06:02] <zoecat> like the password had been changed
#195 [06:02] <sugoi> zoecat: but you were able to log in once?
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#197 [06:03] <AussieMaggy4510> i'm trying this now
#198 [06:03] <zoecat> yes
#199 [06:03] <sugoi> zoecat: then why did you leave the page after you logged in?
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#201 [06:03] <sugoi> auscompgeek: mistell - sorry, that was for AussieMaggy4510
#202 [06:04] <sugoi> two 'aus*' names
#203 [06:04] <AussieMaggy4510> sorry i'm a little bit confused
#204 [06:04] <sugoi> AussieMaggy4510: about what?
#205 [06:04] <zoecat> i clicked the wrong button and closed the wrong tab
#206 [06:05] <AussieMaggy4510> about this mod and files and ...
#207 [06:05] <sugoi> zoecat: ah - well i'm not sure how to help you log into your router
#208 [06:05] <zoecat> o
#209 [06:05] <sugoi> zoecat: but that's the next step
#210 [06:06] <zoecat> ?
#211 [06:06] <sugoi> zoecat: you just need to forward port 25565 to your computer (192.168.1.2)
#212 [06:06] <sugoi> zoecat: 'next step' is get on your router and create a port forwarding rule
#213 [06:06] <sugoi> at that point, you should be gravy
#214 [06:07] <sugoi> AussieMaggy4510: what is your question?
#215 [06:07] <AussieMaggy4510> i've nothing
#216 [06:08] <sugoi> :)
#217 [06:08] <AussieMaggy4510> the mods were my question
#218 [06:08] <sugoi> and so i think your broken mod is mcforge - you can remove it from the plugin folder and see if that fixes things
#219 [06:08] <sugoi> does that make sense?
#220 [06:11] <tyteen4a03> sugoi: MCForge is a classic server software
#221 [06:11] <tyteen4a03> oops
#222 [06:12] <sugoi> well that's not promising
#223 [06:12] * tyteen4a03 slowly walks back to his circle
#223 [06:12] <AussieMaggy4510> so bye
#224 [06:23] <zoecat> yawn! bye and thanks
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#228 [07:14] <Beldo81> Hello Guys, got a bad video quality using Nvidia GTX 560 with latest drivers, somebody know how to fix it please?
#229 [07:17] <Calinou> Beldo81: OS, java version?
#230 [07:17] <Calinou> are you sure you correclty installed the drivers? what graphic settings are you using? are you using any mods?
#231 [07:17] <Calinou> I need more information to help you :)
#232 [07:19] <Beldo81> :) Oki, so : Win 7 64 Bit, All other games run smoothly, so I guess driver is fine, I just installed the game, so no mods are used
#233 [07:19] <Beldo81> played also with the video settings, lowered to minimum and it's the same result
#234 [07:20] <Beldo81> also updated java to 64bit
#235 [07:20] <Beldo81> restarted PC
#236 [07:21] <Beldo81> java version is 6.0.310
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#239 [07:32] <Calinou> Beldo81: you should only have java 64 bit, uninstall the 32 bit version
#240 [07:33] <Calinou> singleplayer or multiplayer?
#241 [07:33] <Calinou> does the world has a large amount of mobs/dropped items?
#242 [07:33] <Beldo81> single player, not a lot of stuff around, the blocks and sky is blury and red-ish
#243 [07:37] <Beldo81> ok, have only the 64bit java now, but the same problem :/
#244 [07:38] <Beldo81> I'll try to restart the PC, brb
#245 [07:48] <Wug> Calinou: 32 bit browsers cannot use 64 bit java, so its sometimes necessary to have both
#246 [07:48] <Calinou> I know
#247 [07:48] <Calinou> just have the 32bit applet
#248 [07:48] <Wug> some browsers have only 32 bit versions for windows
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#258 [08:47] <Guest57911> anybody inside?
#259 [08:49] <Guest57911> xp-farm problem. the monsters hardly spawn!
#260 [08:59] <Wug> stuff doesnt spawn closer to the player than 24 blocks
#261 [09:00] <Wug> (except from spawners)
#262 [09:00] <Wug> spawners make really great exp farms, I recommend using a zombie one
#263 [09:00] <Wug> or if you're feeling adventurous, try one in the nether on a blaze spawner
#264 [09:01] <AnotherUser> yeah, thx. but i am near than 24 blocks. and i havnt any spawner
#265 [09:01] <Wug> you'll have to move further away
#266 [09:02] <AnotherUser> moment pls, need a translator : )
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#268 [09:03] <AnotherUser> ah ok, so u mean, more tha 24 blocks and come back after a minute?
#269 [09:03] <AnotherUser> *than
#270 [09:03] <Wug> you could do that
#271 [09:03] <AnotherUser> i´ll try
#272 [09:03] <AnotherUser> thx
#273 [09:03] <AnotherUser> but other help which is more effectiv?
#274 [09:04] <Wug> you would be better off using water or something to move them towards you
#275 [09:04] * Grim_Reaper hugs Wug tightly
#275 [09:04] * Grim_Reaper hugs Wug tightly
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#277 [09:04] <AnotherUser> effectively
#278 [09:04] <AnotherUser> i use water
#279 [09:04] <AnotherUser> let me count
#280 [09:05] <AnotherUser> source is 8....32 blocks
#281 [09:05] <AnotherUser> 36
#282 [09:05] <AnotherUser> i got stoneplats between
#283 [09:06] <AnotherUser> after that i got a trap 20 blocks deep, should be enough!
#284 [09:06] <Wug> might be a design flaw
#285 [09:06] <Wug> mobs wont spawn in water or on half blocks
#286 [09:07] <AnotherUser> thats ok between the waterways there are areas 8 x 8 for spawning
#287 [09:08] <AnotherUser> do u know a german chat for minecraft?
#288 [09:08] <Wug> no, sorry
#289 [09:08] <Wug> I also don't know much about mob farming
#290 [09:08] <Grim_Reaper> ;german
#291 [09:08] <Grim_Reaper> You should make WugBot reply "Nien"
#292 [09:08] <Wug> you would have better luck if you checked the wiki
#293 [09:09] <Wug> I believe theres a page for mob farming techniques
#294 [09:09] <AnotherUser> #de.minecraftwiki
#295 [09:10] <AnotherUser> i watched a lot of yt-videos and read all about mobs and such in wiki
#296 [09:10] <AnotherUser> Grim_Reaper ist Nein, if u meant to say "no"
#297 [09:10] <Grim_Reaper> Yes
#298 [09:11] <AnotherUser> hm... i will get it! i will read and googl and watch an try!
#299 [09:11] <AnotherUser> thx for your ear
#300 [09:12] <Grim_Reaper> :3
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#304 [09:57] <Skydive> Hello
#305 [09:58] <Skydive> What version of java is best for hosting a minecraft server, i know how to port forward and i have done it before.
#306 [09:58] <Skydive> 6 or 7?
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#308 [10:05] <Skydive> Hello?
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#310 [10:13] <Skydive> damnit
#311 [10:13] <Skydive> gtg
#312 [10:13] <Skydive> gtg
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#315 [10:30] <Skydive> No Shit.
#316 [10:30] <Skydive> still not working
#317 [10:30] <Skydive> fully reinstalled java
#318 [10:30] <Skydive> i can easily host my CS:S server
#319 [10:31] <Skydive> i get the JVM_Bind Exception
#320 [10:31] <Skydive> My Server Ip is blank too.
#321 [10:31] <Skydive> no other java processes running....
#322 [10:31] <Skydive> damnit
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#324 [10:33] <Skydive> http://gyazo.com/47fe0d8c051d74579a99141265b2f9b1
#325 [10:36] <Skydive> after...
#326 [10:36] <Skydive> http://gyazo.com/43adcaa879125fcbc4e3adf0ebfff24f
#327 [10:37] <Wug> its probably a firewall issue
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#329 [10:40] <Skydive> Ic
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#346 [11:46] <speechless> is mediafire acting up for anyone else? trying to download this texturepack 256x256 http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/746466-%E2%98%85%E2%98%85256x128x64x11-12w03a-kds-photo-realism-%E2%98%85%E2%98%85-22012012-update-%E2%98%85%E2%98%85-50k-downloads/
#347 [11:46] <speechless> but it keeps redirecting me to media fires home page
#348 [11:46] <NotiCon> could be it have been deleted from that site
#349 [11:46] <speechless> how unfortunate
#350 [11:48] <Wug> you could try posting in the thread
#351 [11:48] <Wug> its possible the creator doesnt know the links dont work
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#353 [11:51] <EyesIsMine> mediafire doesn't adfly anymore
#354 [11:52] <speechless> i tested another adfly link to media fire, it works
#355 [11:52] <EyesIsMine> it doesn't
#356 [11:52] <speechless> well something must of happened to let me download through that
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#358 [11:59] <Pacha> !check 24.13.174.26
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#362 [12:15] <stoneharry> Hello
#363 [12:15] <Wug> yo
#364 [12:16] <stoneharry> I was wondering if anyone could assist me, my Minecraft server is being flooded with connection requests from a load of ban players, which I guess is a form of DDOS, and it's overloading my server so that people in game get disconected or extreme lag, and I don't know what to do to fix it.
#365 [12:17] <stoneharry> It's running Windwos Web Server 2008 R2, so I went into the MC and IP policy manger, to try and ban the IP's through that, but it had little effect
#366 [12:18] <stoneharry> Anyone have any suggestions at all?
#367 [12:19] <Morrolan> If you have a hardware firewall then the most efficient way would be to ban it there I guess.
#368 [12:19] <Morrolan> it being the IPs in question.
#369 [12:19] <Morrolan> Worst case you could call your ISP for support I guess.
#370 [12:20] <stoneharry> I doubt there's any chance of being able to afford a hardware solution, they usually cost hundreds of $.
#371 [12:21] <stoneharry> I can barely fund the server as it is, cashing out $200 a month for my current hardware.
#372 [12:21] <Morrolan> Uh, are we talking about a dedicated server or about a machine at home?
#373 [12:22] <stoneharry> Dedicated
#374 [12:22] <Morrolan> If it's a dedi then the easiest way to handle such ddos attempts is to ask the provider for help.
#375 [12:23] <stoneharry> I guess, I wanted to see if there was a solution first since the connections are coming through minecraft
#376 [12:23] <stoneharry> Thanks for the help
#377 [12:24] <Morrolan> Minecraft can't do much more than deny these connection attempts. It'll be more efficient to block the connections earlier. :)
#378 [12:24] <Morrolan> Also, I assume you do need a Windows server for some reason? Since Linux servers tend to be cheaper, and if you just need it for Minecraft, well.
#379 [12:25] <stoneharry> I run a gaming network, and other servers on the machine require windows. :)
#380 [12:25] <Morrolan> Ah, okay.
#381 [12:25] <Morrolan> Reminds me of the TF2 Dodgeball mod.
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#385 [12:53] <Skydive> hi
#386 [12:53] <Grim_Reaper> Hello Skydive. Can I help you with anything?
#387 [12:53] <Skydive> do i add java as a firewall exeption
#388 [12:53] <Skydive> have you seen my previous posts?
#389 [12:53] <Grim_Reaper> No I haven't
#390 [12:54] <Skydive> sec
#391 [12:54] <Grim_Reaper> But yes you can add java as a firewall exception
#392 [12:54] <Grim_Reaper> Though as far as I know it should do that by itself or not even be needed
#393 [12:54] <Skydive> how do i copy stuff in mirc -_-
#394 [12:54] <Grim_Reaper> You select as if you were going to select text
#395 [12:54] <Skydive> <Skydive> fully reinstalled java
#396 [12:54] <Skydive> <Skydive> i can easily host my CS:S server
#397 [12:54] <Skydive> <Skydive> i get the JVM_Bind Exception
#398 [12:54] <Skydive> <Skydive> My Server Ip is blank too.
#399 [12:54] <Skydive> <Skydive> no other java processes running....
#400 [12:54] <Grim_Reaper> Then let go, and it's simply copied
#401 [12:54] <Grim_Reaper> ;uq Skydive
#402 [12:55] <Grim_Reaper> You may want to pastebin
#403 [12:55] <Wug> Grim_Reaper: dq
#404 [12:55] <Grim_Reaper> Oh right
#405 [12:55] <Skydive> oh.
#406 [12:55] <Grim_Reaper> thanks Wug
#407 [12:55] <Skydive> sorry
#408 [12:55] <Grim_Reaper> No problem
#409 [12:55] <Wug> its probably a firewall restriction
#410 [12:55] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#411 [12:55] <Skydive> ill add the exception and report back if the error still occcurs.
#412 [12:55] <Skydive> occurs*
#413 [12:55] <Wug> so yeah, add exceptions for port 25565 to all of your firewalls
#414 [12:55] <stoneharry> Minecraft uses port 25565 by default, a bind exception means another program is using that port
#415 [12:56] <Wug> stoneharry: hes ruled out other programs
#416 [12:56] <stoneharry> ah
#417 [12:56] <Wug> its probably a firewall blocking the port
#418 [12:56] <Skydive> no.
#419 [12:56] <Grim_Reaper> I remember when I was trying to use some webhosting stuff and skype was blocking the port >_>
#420 [12:56] <Skydive> i see
#421 [12:56] <Grim_Reaper> Not for minecraft ~
#422 [12:56] <Skydive> i dont use skype.
#423 [12:56] <Wug> I'm ankle deep in a fun project
#424 [12:57] <Skydive> ive managed it before on this computer.
#425 [12:57] <Skydive> its a 64bit os
#426 [12:57] <Grim_Reaper> What project would that be Wug
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#428 [12:57] <Skydive> Hmm, Interesting/
#429 [12:57] <Wug> I'm implementing a decision tree program
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#431 [12:57] <Grim_Reaper> What would that allow exactly?
#432 [12:58] <Wug> using the ID3 decision algorithm
#433 [12:58] <Guest_FIN> Is anyone here?
#434 [12:58] <stoneharry> lol
#435 [12:58] <Grim_Reaper> Yes Guest_FIN. What can we help you with?
#436 [12:58] <Wug> Guest_FIN: there are exactly 162 people here
#437 [12:58] <Skydive> Still.
#438 [12:58] <Skydive> the exact same error
#439 [12:58] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm ._.
#440 [12:58] <Skydive> ive added it to the firewall
#441 [12:58] <Guest_FIN> Thanks for that exhaustive answer wug :P
#442 [12:58] <Wug> well, 162 connections. there are about 6 or 7 bots
#443 [12:58] <stoneharry> You might have more than one firewall, what anti-virus if you have one?
#444 [12:58] <Skydive> this is so very frustrating.
#445 [12:58] <Skydive> i use avaast
#446 [12:58] <Wug> Skydive: try a different port
#447 [12:59] <Skydive> free
#448 [12:59] <Guest_FIN> Anyway, I have a problem with my Minexraft client
#449 [12:59] <Grim_Reaper> Try adding avast to the exception list
#450 [12:59] <Skydive> ive tried it before
#451 [12:59] <Skydive> still
#452 [12:59] <Grim_Reaper> Or as wug says, try another port
#453 [12:59] <stoneharry> Try turning avaast off, see if it works, if it still doesn't, turn it back on
#454 [12:59] <Skydive> ive tried loads of other ports
#455 [12:59] <Grim_Reaper> Could even be your router perhaps
#456 [12:59] <Skydive> ive tried that also.
#457 [12:59] <Skydive> not the router
#458 [12:59] <stoneharry> if it works when it's off, you have found what needs fixing
#459 [12:59] <Skydive> works on another pc
#460 [12:59] <Wug> what did you add an exception fort
#461 [12:59] <Wug> for*
#462 [12:59] <Guest_FIN> it cannot connect to the update server or news server whenever I launch it..
#463 [12:59] <Skydive> Java Platform SE Binary
#464 [12:59] <Wug> Skydive: how are you launching the server
#465 [12:59] <Grim_Reaper> Guest_FIN what does it say?
#466 [12:59] <Guest_FIN> I am always stuck playing an outdated version
#467 [12:59] <Skydive> CMD
#468 [12:59] <Skydive> with the GUi
#469 [12:59] <Wug> Skydive: how exactly are you launching it
#470 [13:00] <Skydive> pic?
#471 [13:00] <Wug> just the line will be sufficient
#472 [13:00] <Guest_FIN> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Loading update news..</center></font></body></html>
#473 [13:00] <Wug> Guest_FIN: do you have java 7
#474 [13:00] <Guest_FIN> That's all I see in the loginf screen..
#475 [13:00] <Wug> also, can you login
#476 [13:01] <Grim_Reaper> Any chance Internet explorer is in... errm. offline mode? Though I would imagine it would say cant load page
#477 [13:01] <Grim_Reaper> ?? login
#478 [13:01] <VoxelHead> login: http://session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Meep&sessionId=test&serverId=test
#479 [13:01] <VoxelHead> login: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#480 [13:01] <VoxelHead> login: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
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#483 [13:01] <Grim_Reaper> Meh Im lagging
#484 [13:02] <Guest_FIN> no I cannot log in, it's always making me play offline
#485 [13:02] <Wug> Guest_FIN: did this just start or has it been like this for a whike
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#487 [13:03] <Skydive> @ECHO OFF
#488 [13:03] <Skydive> java -Xms1024M -Xmx1200M -jar Minecraft_Server.jar -nogui
#489 [13:03] <Skydive> PAUSE
#490 [13:03] <Guest_FIN> has been like this for a long time
#491 [13:03] <Skydive> this problem is recent
#492 [13:03] <Grim_Reaper> Guest_FIN have you tried playing through the browser?
#493 [13:03] <Guest_FIN> Java says it is 6.0.270.7
#494 [13:03] <Wug> Skydive: add an exception for c:/windows/system32/java
#495 [13:03] <stoneharry> My minecraft server uses 20GB RAM, which amazes me. :G
#496 [13:03] <Skydive> Vulpine helped me out.
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#498 [13:04] <Skydive> no success
#499 [13:04] <Grim_Reaper> Lol stoneharry thats insane
#500 [13:04] <Guest_FIN> Browser doesn't work either
#501 [13:04] <Skydive> he told me to reinstall java.
#502 [13:04] <Skydive> 20GB Seriously!
#503 [13:04] <Skydive> thats nothing
#504 [13:04] <stoneharry> not even a big map
#505 [13:04] <Skydive> go see Obsidian Craft
#506 [13:04] <Grim_Reaper> Try seeing if internet explorer is set in offline mode Guest_FIN
#507 [13:04] <Grim_Reaper> Doubt it is
#508 [13:04] <stoneharry> have a border enabled
#509 [13:04] <Grim_Reaper> But just check incase o.o
#510 [13:04] <Skydive> 120GB intel server
#511 [13:04] <stoneharry> :P It's stupid how much resources Minecraft uses
#512 [13:04] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#513 [13:04] <Grim_Reaper> That is java for you
#514 [13:05] <stoneharry> Don't blame java
#515 [13:05] <Grim_Reaper> I will ;-;
#516 [13:05] <Guest_FIN> nope, explorer works.
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#518 [13:05] <stoneharry> I have plenty of other Java applications that run fine :P
#519 [13:05] <Skydive> same
#520 [13:05] <Wug> its totally javas fault
#521 [13:05] <Skydive> c++ ftw
#522 [13:05] <Wug> also notches a little
#523 [13:05] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#524 [13:05] <stoneharry> I blame Notch and the lack of multiplayer design
#525 [13:05] <Grim_Reaper> Sure java can be good if you code something really well
#526 [13:05] <Grim_Reaper> But I still would choose C over it
#527 [13:05] <Skydive> C++ FTW
#528 [13:05] <Skydive> :D
#529 [13:05] <Grim_Reaper> Guest_FIN errm.. see if you can go here https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#530 [13:05] <Grim_Reaper> Tell me what it says
#531 [13:05] <Skydive> NO UNREALSCRIPT FTW
#532 [13:06] <Guest_FIN> it says Bad Login
#533 [13:06] <Grim_Reaper> K thats working fine then
#534 [13:06] <Grim_Reaper> Are you running any anti viruses?
#535 [13:06] <Grim_Reaper> Or firewalls?
#536 [13:06] <Grim_Reaper> Also have you tried running the launcher as admin?
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#538 [13:06] <Guest_FIN> I tried to delete java and mc client and reinstall..
#539 [13:06] <Guest_FIN> now I cannot reinstall mc ^_^
#540 [13:06] <stoneharry> 100 people online, 23GB RAM usage, 30% CPU usage of a 8 core CPU at 2.6ghz
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#542 [13:07] <Wug> Guest_FIN: ... what do you mena by delete java
#543 [13:07] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#544 [13:07] <Guest_FIN> it's all green in ZA
#545 [13:07] <Skydive> deleting java is simple.
#546 [13:07] <Grim_Reaper> Did you uninstall.. or delete?
#547 [13:07] <Wug> ^
#548 [13:07] <Guest_FIN> uninstalled ofc
#549 [13:07] <Grim_Reaper> K
#550 [13:07] <Skydive> oh
#551 [13:07] <Skydive> phew.
#552 [13:07] <Skydive> lol
#553 [13:07] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#554 [13:07] <Wug> god dont do that to me
#555 [13:07] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#556 [13:07] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#557 [13:07] <Grim_Reaper> Oh my word VoxelHead meanie
#558 [13:08] <Wug> oh grimmy >:3
#559 [13:08] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#560 [13:08] <Wug> about time you learned to use teamviewer
#561 [13:08] <Guest_FIN> I don't get it, I've tried all I can, it should work..
#562 [13:08] <Grim_Reaper> Who me?
#563 [13:08] <Wug> yes you
#564 [13:08] <Grim_Reaper> I use it on my iphone lol
#565 [13:08] <Wug> can you help people with it
#566 [13:08] <Guest_FIN> is it possible my subscription has run out or something?
#567 [13:08] <Wug> I have to finish my project -.-
#568 [13:08] <Grim_Reaper> <3 accessing my pc with it
#569 [13:08] <Grim_Reaper> Wug Im not sure how to help though D:
#570 [13:08] <Wug> Guest_FIN: it could be, if minecraft used a subscription
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#572 [13:08] <Wug> which it doesnt
#573 [13:09] <Grim_Reaper> Guest_FIN what about firewalls and errm, anti viruses?
#574 [13:09] <Skydive> Well, Please, any further steps?
#575 [13:09] <Wug> fine ill do it myself
#576 [13:09] <Wug> :tv6
#577 [13:09] <WugBot> tv6: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/download/version_6x/TeamViewer_Setup.exe
#578 [13:09] <WugBot> tv6: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#579 [13:09] <Skydive> ive got team viewer
#580 [13:09] <Skydive> Reaper
#581 [13:09] <Wug> wel fire it up
#582 [13:09] <mib_1cnqfo> Hello
#583 [13:09] <Skydive> kay
#584 [13:09] <Wug> mib_1cnqfo: yo
#585 [13:09] <Guest_FIN> it's allowed through firewall and antivirus never had any alerts about it
#586 [13:09] <Grim_Reaper> Sorry wug. also my net is lagging like hell
#587 [13:10] <Grim_Reaper> Im getting a max download of 10Kb's =\
#588 [13:10] <Grim_Reaper> bytes*
#589 [13:10] <mib_1cnqfo> Recently I set up a server and when I login to localhost (the server is on my computer) it says Bad Login
#590 [13:10] <Grim_Reaper> So I wouldn't do very well over tv at the moment
#591 [13:10] <EyesIsMine> it seems version 12 is the oldest supported by login.minecraft.net
#592 [13:10] <Wug> mib_1cnqfo: close and reopen minecraft
#593 [13:10] <Skydive> Wug, could you try then?
#594 [13:10] <Wug> Skydive: yeah, im going to
#595 [13:10] <mib_1cnqfo> wug: It didn't work
#596 [13:10] <Wug> mib_1cnqfo: whats your minecraft username
#597 [13:11] <mib_1cnqfo> RijnBridge
#598 [13:11] <Wug> ;hp RijnBridge
#599 [13:11] <WugBot> RijnBridge has NOT paid for minecraft.
#600 [13:11] <Wug> theres your problem
#601 [13:11] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#602 [13:11] <mib_1cnqfo> What?
#603 [13:11] <EyesIsMine> !paid RijnBridge
#604 [13:11] <Grim_Reaper> Seems you aren't a premium user?
#605 [13:11] <Guest_FIN> try BastionXX
#606 [13:11] <Skydive> Username: 153 963 002 Pass: 6915 Omg he hasnt paid
#607 [13:11] <Wug> ;hp BastionXX
#608 [13:11] <WugBot> BastionXX has paid for minecraft.
#609 [13:11] <EyesIsMine> !paid Grim_Reaper
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#611 [13:12] <Grim_Reaper> EyesIsMine that is not my account
#612 [13:12] <Grim_Reaper> Mine is
#613 [13:12] <Wug> inb4 !paid wug
#614 [13:12] <Grim_Reaper> !paid Grimster101
#615 [13:12] <Guest_FIN> ok, thankyou
#616 [13:12] <mib_1cnqfo> I think that's right, my friend installed Minecraft for me and said it was free I will ask him
#617 [13:12] <Skydive> 1paid sky
#618 [13:12] <Skydive> !paid sky
#619 [13:12] <Skydive> D:
#620 [13:12] <Grim_Reaper> mib_1cnqfo it isn't free
#621 [13:12] <Skydive> !paid Skydive
#622 [13:12] <Grim_Reaper> Except for creative mode
#623 [13:12] <Grim_Reaper> !paid wug
#624 [13:12] <Wug> Skydive: I'm connecting
#625 [13:12] <Grim_Reaper> D:
#626 [13:12] <EyesIsMine> !paid InTheLittleWood
#627 [13:12] <Skydive> okay
#628 [13:12] <Wug> uhh and by that I mean
#629 [13:12] <Wug> I cant because you have teamviewer 7
#630 [13:12] <EyesIsMine> !paid inthelittlewood
#631 [13:12] <mib_1cnqfo> So ok I still don't see the problem
#632 [13:12] <Skydive> :o
#633 [13:12] <EyesIsMine> no shit
#634 [13:12] <Wug> grab 6 with the link up there
#635 [13:12] <Wug> :tv6
#636 [13:12] <WugBot> tv6: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/download/version_6x/TeamViewer_Setup.exe
#637 [13:12] <WugBot> tv6: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#638 [13:13] <Wug> there is no version 7 for linux yet
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#640 [13:13] <Skydive> okay
#641 [13:13] <EyesIsMine> !paid linux
#642 [13:13] <EyesIsMine> typical
#643 [13:13] <EyesIsMine> c wut i did dere
#644 [13:14] <mib_1cnqfo> jesus what is going on? why is everyone so nazi about who paid and not? is it a problem?
#645 [13:14] <EyesIsMine> yes
#646 [13:14] <EyesIsMine> not paying is illegal
#647 [13:15] <mib_1cnqfo> But on my computer it just works fine, my friend installed it but why can't I do server on my localhost?
#648 [13:15] <EyesIsMine> Because you haven't paid
#649 [13:15] <Skydive> 153 963 002 4698
#650 [13:15] <Wug> because you're a pirate
#651 [13:15] <Wug> yar har fiddle dee dee
#652 [13:15] <Grim_Reaper> YAR HAR fiddle dee dee! Being a pirate is alright with me! Do what you want cause a pirate is free! You ARE A PIRATE!
#653 [13:15] <Skydive> !paid skydive7x6
#654 [13:15] <Skydive> =D
#655 [13:15] <Morrolan> Arr, this be drivin' me crazy. D:
#656 [13:15] <mib_1cnqfo> !paid Skydive
#657 [13:15] <Skydive> !paid Tony-The-Slayer
#658 [13:15] <EyesIsMine> YAR HAR fiddle dee dee! Being a pirate is alright to be! Do what you want cause a pirate is free! You ARE A PIRATE!
#659 [13:15] <Wug> alright I'm connected
#660 [13:15] <EyesIsMine> FTFY
#661 [13:16] <mib_1cnqfo> lolwut
#662 [13:16] <mib_1cnqfo> ok thanks bye
#663 [13:16] <mib_1cnqfo> ok thanks bye
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#665 [13:17] <Wug> Skydive: run the server again and give it a minute so I can see the error message
#666 [13:17] <Skydive> k
#667 [13:18] <Wug> Skydive: all of your firewalls are disabled?
#668 [13:18] <Skydive> ill disable mine now.
#669 [13:18] <Skydive> norton one is inactive
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#671 [13:19] <Skydive> its off
#672 [13:19] <Wug> close the other one
#673 [13:19] <Skydive> both of them
#674 [13:19] <Wug> and disable it for both networks
#675 [13:19] <Skydive> okay
#676 [13:20] <Skydive> still.
#677 [13:20] <pudgetta> We are not able to process your payment using your PayPal account at this time. Please return to the merchant's website and try using a different payment method (if available).
#678 [13:21] <pudgetta> also tried credit card said had to wait 48 hours
#679 [13:22] <Skydive> this issue still occured before i had avaast.
#680 [13:22] <Skydive> i doubt avaast is the problem.
#681 [13:22] <Wug> has it ever worked
#682 [13:22] <Skydive> yes
#683 [13:22] <Skydive> take a look
#684 [13:22] <Wug> when did it randomly stop
#685 [13:22] <EyesIsMine> uninstall norton
#686 [13:23] <Skydive> its not norton.
#687 [13:23] <Skydive> i cannot remember
#688 [13:23] <EyesIsMine> norton is still crap
#689 [13:23] <Skydive> zip it eyes.
#690 [13:23] <EyesIsMine> no
#691 [13:23] <Wug> you dont really need more than one av
#692 [13:23] <Skydive> i dislike opinions.
#693 [13:23] <EyesIsMine> well gtfo
#694 [13:23] <Skydive> no thanks.
#695 [13:23] <Wug> stop arguing
#696 [13:23] * GreyVulpine kicked EyesIsMine from #minecrafthelp (Reason: yesIsMine :You First.)
#697 [13:23] <Wug> lol
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#699 [13:23] <EyesIsMine> nou
#700 [13:23] <Wug> ....
#701 [13:23] <Skydive> -_-
#702 [13:24] <Wug> uuhhh
#703 [13:24] <Wug> deoes the client work
#704 [13:24] <Wug> Skydive: ^
#705 [13:24] <Skydive> yes
#706 [13:24] <Skydive> it fully works
#707 [13:24] <Skydive> client works perfectly.
#708 [13:25] <pudgetta> So why can't I buy the game?
#709 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> pudgetta - Call up your credit card or bank, see if they're blocking the transaction.
#710 [13:26] <TheNoodle> Anyone have the bat file for launching minecraft with more memory handy?
#711 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/YhRXMsEU
#712 [13:27] <TheNoodle> <3
#713 [13:27] <Wug> try reinstalling java
#714 [13:27] <Skydive> such a shame -_-
#715 [13:27] <Wug> something seems weird
#716 [13:27] <pudgetta> they are not, moneybrokers said I have made to many payments to this client (haven't made any, but my friend on the same network has) can't use card or paypal
#717 [13:27] <Wug> grey might have been right
#718 [13:27] <Wug> grey is usually right
#719 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> I'm wah?
#720 [13:27] <Skydive> Grey
#721 [13:28] <Skydive> i reinstalled java.
#722 [13:28] <Skydive> still the same issue mate.
#723 [13:28] <Wug> i'm weirded out by the fact that you have to be in system32 to use system utilities
#724 [13:28] <Wug> there might be a windows issue here
#725 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Could you start from the top?
#726 [13:28] <Skydive> lol
#727 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> ... what's going on?
#728 [13:28] <Skydive> global varibles?
#729 [13:28] <Wug> client works but server fails to bind to port
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#731 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> And wug, system32?
#732 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> He can't run cmd?
#733 [13:29] <Wug> as far as I know, firewalls are all disabled and nothing else is using the port according to netstat
#734 [13:29] <Wug> server config is fine and issue occurs on several potrs
#735 [13:29] <Skydive> all ports*
#736 [13:29] <Wug> cmd works, but things like netstat dont
#737 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Check environment variables, chances are, a variable is screwed up
#738 [13:30] <Skydive> ddddg
#739 [13:30] <Skydive> prbly*
#740 [13:30] <Skydive> prbly*
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#742 [13:30] <Skydive> wug i suggest you check it.
#743 [13:30] <Wug> ill look
#744 [13:30] <Skydive> i might have screwed it up
#745 [13:30] <Wug> but im not sure I will be able to fix it
#746 [13:31] <Wug> I can run things from explorer but not from a command prompt
#747 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> Tell me what you see for Path
#748 [13:31] <Skydive> C:\Users\A Aleem\Desktop\android-sdk-windows\tools;C:\Program Files (x86)\Research In Motion\BlackBerry Theme Studio 6.0\bin
#749 [13:31] <Wug> there is definitely some important things missing
#750 [13:31] <Wug> lemme check system path
#751 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Yup, definitely missing
#752 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> What version of windows is hit
#753 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> this
#754 [13:32] <Skydive> C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.7.0_02\bin;C:\Program Files (x86)\Toshiba\Bluetooth Toshiba Stack\sys\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Toshiba\Bluetooth Toshiba Stack\sys\x64\
#755 [13:32] <Wug> 7 x64 I think
#756 [13:32] <Skydive> yes
#757 [13:32] <Skydive> it is.
#758 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> I see jdk1.7
#759 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> But the issue is, you're missing: %SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;%SYSTEMROOT%\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0
#760 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> Those paths are core
#761 [13:33] <Wug> I added C:\Windows and C:\Windows\System32
#762 [13:33] <Wug> I don't remember what they are all supposed to be off the top of my head
#763 [13:33] <Wug> what does your path look like
#764 [13:33] * GreyVulpine points above
#764 [13:33] <Wug> just those?
#765 [13:34] * Skydive suicides.
#765 [13:34] * Skydive -_-
#765 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> I need to brb, I screwed something up in my IRC client, it's flooding me out with crap.
#766 [13:34] <Wug> lol
#767 [13:35] <Skydive> YEY
#768 [13:35] <Wug> try the minecraft server againb
#769 [13:35] <Skydive> Fail
#770 [13:36] <Skydive> might be another issue.
#771 [13:36] <Skydive> ?
#772 [13:36] <Wug> im thinking
#773 [13:37] <Skydive> sorry.
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#775 [13:37] <Grim_Reaper> [20:34] <@GreyVulpine> I need to brb, I screwed something up in my IRC client, it's flooding me out with crap.
#776 [13:37] <Grim_Reaper> Poo lover?
#777 [13:37] <Skydive> lol
#778 [13:37] <Skydive> Grim your jks
#779 [13:37] * Grim_Reaper huggles GreyVulpine
#779 [13:37] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#780 [13:37] * GreyVulpine stabs Grim_Reaper.
#780 [13:37] <Grim_Reaper> ;_;
#781 [13:37] * Skydive eats fish fingers and chips.
#781 [13:38] <Grim_Reaper> If I had @ in here I would soooooooo slap you with a fish GreyVulpine
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#783 [13:38] <Grim_Reaper> >_>
#784 [13:38] * Wug slaps Grim_Reaper around a bit with a large brick
#784 [13:38] * Grim_Reaper slaps wug around a bit with a drunk hooker
#784 [13:39] <Wug> I CAN SEE YOU TYPING
#785 [13:39] <Wug> IM WATCHING YOU
#786 [13:39] <Grim_Reaper> Perv
#787 [13:39] * Skydive slaps @Wug and +Grim_Reaper with a knob.
#787 [13:39] <Grim_Reaper> D:
#788 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> Bah, I horridly screwed up mIRC by pressing break.
#789 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> be are bee again.
#790 [13:40] <Wug> press it again
#791 [13:40] * Skydive slays @GreyVulpine like a bitch.
#791 [13:40] <Skydive> had to :3
#792 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> I'm trying, it's not working
#793 [13:40] <Skydive> well?
#794 [13:40] <Grim_Reaper> By pressing break?
#795 [13:40] * Grim_Reaper is confuzzled
#795 [13:40] <Skydive> im out of ideas
#796 [13:40] <Skydive> fuffus
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#798 [13:40] <Skydive> this is bad juju
#799 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> Ah, much better now.
#800 [13:41] <Wug> lemme look at the routers settings
#801 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> Wug, is Java 7 still installed on that computer?
#802 [13:41] <Grim_Reaper> Inb4 Wug breaks the router >_>
#803 [13:41] <Wug> GreyVulpine: it is but the client works
#804 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> The path variable seems to think so
#805 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> I'd nuke java, reinstall 6, just to rule that out.
#806 [13:42] <Wug> ill give it a shot
#807 [13:43] <Wug> Skydive: doop
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#809 [13:43] <Skydive> l.com
#810 [13:43] <Skydive> :/
#811 [13:43] <Wug> I'm nuking your java
#812 [13:43] <Wug> SHOP CHECKING YOUR EMAIL
#813 [13:44] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#814 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Note to self, pressing ctrl+break in mIRC disables scripting engine, getting "Break: command halted (script line)" each time an event would've fired off. Gets spammy.
#815 [13:44] <Wug> I WILL CHECK YOUR WHOLE HEAD
#816 [13:44] <Grim_Reaper> Whats the break key?
#817 [13:44] <Grim_Reaper> ~ ?
#818 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> break/pause
#819 [13:44] <Grim_Reaper> OH
#820 [13:44] * Wug engages immaturity mode
#820 [13:44] <Wug> Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive: Skydive:
#821 [13:44] <Grim_Reaper> lol >_>
#822 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Oh god.
#823 [13:44] <Grim_Reaper> Kill it with fire D:
#824 [13:45] * Wug fizzles
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#825 [13:45] * Grim_Reaper pops
#825 [13:45] <Wug> asfasdfsd
#826 [13:45] * Skydive is bored
#826 [13:45] <Grim_Reaper> Wug read his mail
#827 [13:45] <Skydive> asdf
#828 [13:45] <Wug> im nuking your hava
#829 [13:45] <Wug> java*
#830 [13:45] <Grim_Reaper> hava?
#831 [13:45] <Grim_Reaper> Wow
#832 [13:45] <Grim_Reaper> Must be java 8
#833 [13:45] <Skydive> thats my other email
#834 [13:45] <Skydive> i have like 1337 email accounts
#835 [13:45] <Skydive> =D
#836 [13:45] <Skydive> wug
#837 [13:45] <Skydive> look
#838 [13:45] <Grim_Reaper> Oh yeah?
#839 [13:46] <Skydive> css server hosts perfectly
#840 [13:46] <Grim_Reaper> I have an email with @strawberrycupcak.es
#841 [13:46] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#842 [13:46] <Wug> is CSS written in java
#843 [13:46] <Grim_Reaper> Noooo o_O
#844 [13:46] <Grim_Reaper> Least last I checked >_>
#845 [13:46] <Skydive> yes
#846 [13:46] <Skydive> in my world
#847 [13:46] <Wug> doesnt look like it
#848 [13:46] <Skydive> guys
#849 [13:46] <Skydive> can i ask a question
#850 [13:46] <Wug> you can
#851 [13:46] <Grim_Reaper> ;dq Skydive
#852 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead says no
#853 [13:46] <Wug> ignore vox
#854 [13:46] <Grim_Reaper> Wugbot says yes
#855 [13:47] <Skydive> grr
#856 [13:47] <Grim_Reaper> Wug your ;dq fails ;-;
#857 [13:47] <Skydive> anyway erm
#858 [13:47] <Wug> it doesnt do comprehensive matching of the list, no
#859 [13:47] <Skydive> is java coded in java?
#860 [13:47] <Grim_Reaper> ...
#861 [13:47] <Skydive> and ic C++ coded in C++
#862 [13:47] <Skydive> im really curious
#863 [13:47] <Wug> c++ isnt coded in anything
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#865 [13:47] <Skydive> oh
#866 [13:47] <Skydive> so how was it coded.
#867 [13:48] <Skydive> magic?
#868 [13:48] <Wug> the c++ compiler is written in c++ and the java compiler is written in java
#869 [13:48] <Wug> but java is itself a program which is written mostly in c++
#870 [13:48] <Skydive> +D
#871 [13:48] <Skydive> =D
#872 [13:48] <Wug> I'm nuking your java now
#873 [13:48] <Eddie> Listen to Wug.
#874 [13:48] <Grim_Reaper> <3 Eddie
#875 [13:49] <Eddie> <3
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#877 [13:49] <Wug> I wonder if windows has which
#878 [13:50] <Grim_Reaper> What do you call a nun in a wheel chair?
#879 [13:50] <Grim_Reaper> Virgin Mobile
#880 [13:50] <Wug> :java/archive
#881 [13:50] <WugBot> java/archive: You can download old versions of java from here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/archive-139210.html
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#883 [13:51] <Skydive> i dled that
#884 [13:51] <Skydive> went there.
#885 [13:51] <Wug> you have chunks of an old version that need to be removed
#886 [13:52] <Skydive> ?
#887 [13:52] <Skydive> do i delete that
#888 [13:52] <Wug> please stop trying to do things
#889 [13:52] <Skydive> sorry :/
#890 [13:52] <Wug> I know what I'm doing and it locks me out when you move the mouse
#891 [13:52] <Skydive> oh soz
#892 [13:53] <Wug> hang on a sec
#893 [13:53] <Skydive> shit
#894 [13:53] <Skydive> mouse shifted
#895 [13:53] <Skydive> soz
#896 [13:54] <Eddie> VoxelHead is a Nazi
#897 [13:54] <Grim_Reaper> Pfft
#898 [13:54] <Skydive> lol
#899 [13:54] <Skydive> ikr
#900 [13:54] <Grim_Reaper> He's just a person with politcal differences
#901 [13:54] <Skydive> :D
#902 [13:54] <Skydive> like killing jews
#903 [13:54] <Skydive> thats political, right?
#904 [13:54] <Skydive> thought so.
#905 [13:55] <Skydive> brb wug your free to try fix it
#906 [13:55] <Eddie> :s
#907 [13:55] * Grim_Reaper waves to wug on tv
#907 [13:56] <Wug> SAENFJSDRFKJSDWRE ERE EKLNKR EYARE R
#908 [13:56] <Grim_Reaper> Errr
#909 [13:57] <Skydive> ?
#910 [13:57] <Wug> MY ORACLE ACCOUNT IS "LOCKED"
#911 [13:57] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#912 [13:57] <Wug> I NEED TO "NOTIFY THE SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR"
#913 [13:57] <Wug> FOR WHICH THERE IS OFC NO LINK
#914 [13:57] <Grim_Reaper> Oh you :3 Always getting locked out of things
#915 [13:57] <Skydive> whats next?
#916 [13:57] <Skydive> this irc channel?
#917 [13:57] <Skydive> lol
#918 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> That.. can be arranged
#919 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> GreyVulpine: ban wug
#920 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#921 [13:58] <Eddie> !ban Eddie
#922 [13:58] <Skydive> !ban wug*
#923 [13:58] <Wug> NOW it works
#924 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> I only have ;kick
#925 [13:58] <Wug> dafaq
#926 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> Otherwise I would ban wug with <3's
#927 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> Hearts
#928 [13:58] <Skydive> :D
#929 [13:58] <Skydive> lol
#930 [13:58] <Skydive> Grim u got steam?
#931 [13:59] <Eddie> He has steam of steel
#932 [13:59] <Grim_Reaper> I do but I rarely login to it
#933 [13:59] <Skydive> D:
#934 [13:59] <Skydive> do u play mc?
#935 [13:59] <Grim_Reaper> Eddie has butt cheeks of steel specially for Scott
#936 [13:59] <Grim_Reaper> MC, of course <3
#937 [13:59] <Skydive> :)
#938 [13:59] <Scott> LOL.
#939 [13:59] <Eddie> :s
#940 [13:59] * Grim_Reaper huggles Eddie and Scott
#940 [14:00] <Wug> h/o mirroring
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#942 [14:00] <SansNumbers> hello
#943 [14:01] <SansNumbers> I'm having video problems with minecraft
#944 [14:01] <Skydive> Wug is it a VERY complex issue?
#945 [14:01] <Skydive> Sans get Optifine mod
#946 [14:01] <Wug> no, I just have to get a 60MB file from me to you
#947 [14:01] <Skydive> it improves preformance a low
#948 [14:01] <Skydive> lot*
#949 [14:01] <Wug> should take but a minute
#950 [14:01] <Skydive> :O
#951 [14:01] <Grim_Reaper> SansNumbers can to elaberate?
#952 [14:01] <Skydive> what file?
#953 [14:02] <Grim_Reaper> What happens exactly with your minecraft game?
#954 [14:02] <Skydive> im good with minecraft video problems =D
#955 [14:02] <SansNumbers> http://imgur.com/czFPO,KPqHw <- this
#956 [14:02] <Wug> its actually more like 90mb. whatever
#957 [14:02] <SansNumbers> it also affects other windows -> http://i.imgur.com/KPqHw.png
#958 [14:02] <Skydive> yeah, get obtifine.
#959 [14:02] <Skydive> optifine*
#960 [14:02] <Skydive> it might fix it
#961 [14:02] <Scott> Optifine is not the solution for everything...
#962 [14:03] <SansNumbers> i'm not having FPS problem
#963 [14:03] <SansNumbers> s
#964 [14:03] <Skydive> oh
#965 [14:03] <Skydive> sorry
#966 [14:03] <Wug> Skydive: use that link
#967 [14:03] <Skydive> so
#968 [14:03] <Skydive> k
#969 [14:03] <Skydive> Forbidden
#970 [14:03] <Skydive> You don't have permission to access /jdk-7u2-windows-x64.exe on this server.
#971 [14:03] <Skydive> Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) Server at wug.me Port 80
#972 [14:03] <Wug> uhh hang on
#973 [14:03] <Grim_Reaper> What version of java are you using SansNumbers?
#974 [14:03] <Wug> vox is a bot
#975 [14:03] <SansNumbers> i'm using jre 6
#976 [14:03] <Skydive> oh :/
#977 [14:04] <Skydive> brb
#978 [14:04] <Grim_Reaper> Ok. Are all your video drivers up to date and such?
#979 [14:04] <Grim_Reaper> Also have you always had this issue?
#980 [14:04] <SansNumbers> in windows 7 i did not.
#981 [14:04] <SansNumbers> same hardware and everything
#982 [14:04] <SansNumbers> when I went to linux this started happening
#983 [14:04] <Grim_Reaper> Does it happen in new worlds?
#984 [14:04] <SansNumbers> yeah i made that world yesterday
#985 [14:04] <Grim_Reaper> Also which java are you using. Sunsdk or?
#986 [14:05] <SansNumbers> it says java runtime environment
#987 [14:05] <SansNumbers> 6
#988 [14:05] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah though I believe with linux theres openjdk and sun
#989 [14:05] <SansNumbers> yes there is
#990 [14:05] <Grim_Reaper> So two different versions of java
#991 [14:05] <Grim_Reaper> So which are you using?
#992 [14:06] <SansNumbers> sun
#993 [14:06] <Grim_Reaper> Ok. try uninstall sun and installing openjdk. And see if that helps at all
#994 [14:07] <Grim_Reaper> Just type my name if you need me. Going to pour some juice for myself
#995 [14:08] <Skydive> WUG WAS HERE :3
#996 [14:08] <Skydive> OI
#997 [14:08] <Skydive> im here too
#998 [14:08] <Skydive> i just came back
#999 [14:08] <Wug> lol
#1000 [14:08] <Skydive> damnit
#1001 [14:08] <Wug> you know
#1002 [14:08] <Wug> dopeghoti does get those messages
#1003 [14:09] <Skydive> !paid JammyTurtle
#1004 [14:09] <Skydive> !paid MrBojangles
#1005 [14:09] <Skydive> !Mr.Josekuph
#1006 [14:09] <Skydive> oop
#1007 [14:09] <Skydive> wug im confused
#1008 [14:09] <SansNumbers> !paid SansNumbers
#1009 [14:09] <SansNumbers> good.
#1010 [14:10] <Wug> there were leftover chunks of some other version
#1011 [14:10] <Wug> si I'm installing that version so I can uninstall it properly
#1012 [14:10] <Wug> so*
#1013 [14:10] <Wug> there are other ways to do it but they are last resort
#1014 [14:11] <SansNumbers> man it's taking forever to d/l openjdk
#1015 [14:12] <Wug> java is a giant cow
#1016 [14:13] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#1017 [14:13] <Eddie> like C++
#1018 [14:13] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1019 [14:13] <Wug> c++ doesnt requite an 80MB vm to run
#1020 [14:13] <SansNumbers> i wish this game was made in something else
#1021 [14:13] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1022 [14:13] <Eddie> It requires 80 men to carry around
#1023 [14:13] <Eddie> :D
#1024 [14:13] <SansNumbers> this other game I play is programmed in C++ and i don't have this problem
#1025 [14:13] <Wug> most games are c++
#1026 [14:14] <Wug> its not very cross playform
#1027 [14:14] <Grim_Reaper> Wug
#1028 [14:14] <Wug> but its definitely more efficient
#1029 [14:14] <Grim_Reaper> I have a serious question
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#1032 [14:14] <Grim_Reaper> Would a game most likely be better in C# or C++
#1033 [14:14] <Morrolan> Uah, you opened the box of Pandora. D:
#1034 [14:14] <Eddie> Grim_Reaper: It depends on how it was programmed.
#1035 [14:14] <Grim_Reaper> Well generally
#1036 [14:14] <Eddie> Well generally you can do more with C++
#1037 [14:14] <Grim_Reaper> Would it be better to use C# for an openworld
#1038 [14:15] <Grim_Reaper> I thought # was more flexible though?
#1039 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> C# can be kinda compared to java in terms of... programmer-friendliness.
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#1041 [14:15] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#1042 [14:15] <Grim_Reaper> Cause we're being taught C# next year
#1043 [14:15] <Grim_Reaper> But I wanna make games
#1044 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> I'd still prefer C++ for the speed and flexibility it gives
#1045 [14:15] <Grim_Reaper> But they dont offer c++
#1046 [14:15] <Grim_Reaper> Sadly =\
#1047 [14:16] <Eddie> Grim_Reaper
#1048 [14:16] <Eddie> You can use XNA on Windows
#1049 [14:16] <Grim_Reaper> Though if I learn C# would I somewhat be able to code in ++?
#1050 [14:16] <SansNumbers> Grim_Reaper: I ran with openjdk and it still looks like crap
#1051 [14:16] <helpsmeplz> hey, does anyone knowhow to change ur email on ur minecraft accoount
#1052 [14:16] <SansNumbers> it's not as bad but there's still static
#1053 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> helpsmeplz - See help.mojang.com
#1054 [14:16] <Grim_Reaper> SansNumbers I think GreyVulpine might know how to fix that then
#1055 [14:16] <helpsmeplz> WOW thier help site has changed, thx
#1056 [14:16] <helpsmeplz> WOW thier help site has changed, thx
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#1060 [14:17] <SansNumbers> ok then
#1061 [14:18] <SansNumbers> so GreyVulpine, will you be able to help me with my video problem?
#1062 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> Just looked over those screenshots. Not too sure what's happening.
#1063 [14:19] <Wug> Skydive: I havent the foggiest goddamn clue
#1064 [14:19] <Skydive> wait
#1065 [14:19] <Wug> try restarting
#1066 [14:19] <Skydive> what graphics card u got?
#1067 [14:19] <Skydive> restarting?
#1068 [14:19] <Skydive> my pc?
#1069 [14:19] <Wug> yes
#1070 [14:19] <Skydive> then what?
#1071 [14:20] <Skydive> another fail D:
#1072 [14:20] <Skydive> uggggh
#1073 [14:20] <SansNumbers> I'm betting if I had a real video card this problem wouldn't happen?
#1074 [14:20] <Wug> I have no idea why it isnt working
#1075 [14:20] <Skydive> yes it wouldnt
#1076 [14:20] <Skydive> awwwwwww
#1077 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> SansNumbers - What video card do you have?
#1078 [14:20] <SansNumbers> right now it's some integrated crap
#1079 [14:20] <SansNumbers> it worked with Windows 7 but apparently not when I change OSes
#1080 [14:20] <Skydive> then its gonna stay like that probrably
#1081 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate? What video card? What drivers are you using?
#1082 [14:21] <Wug> Skydive: any chance of trying the wired connection
#1083 [14:22] <Skydive> sure
#1084 [14:22] <SansNumbers> I'm not sure if this is the one, but when running lspci -v I get "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])"
#1085 [14:22] <Skydive> ill stick it in
#1086 [14:22] <Skydive> 1 sec
#1087 [14:22] <SansNumbers> as one of them
#1088 [14:22] <Skydive> its a Family
#1089 [14:22] <Skydive> yes
#1090 [14:22] <Skydive> the arguments
#1091 [14:22] <Wug> use whole sentences
#1092 [14:22] <Skydive> sorry, :/ lol
#1093 [14:22] <Skydive> that isnt a verry good intergrated graphics chip u got there
#1094 [14:23] <Wug> it should at least work
#1095 [14:23] <Wug> its probably a driver issue
#1096 [14:24] <SansNumbers> not sure how to update my drivers using linux
#1097 [14:24] <SansNumbers> most answers I get are "it should be updated already"
#1098 [14:24] <Wug> SansNumbers: what distro are you on
#1099 [14:24] <SansNumbers> mint 12
#1100 [14:24] <Wug> buh I have no idea
#1101 [14:24] <SansNumbers> it's ubuntu-based
#1102 [14:25] <Wug> try intels website? maybe they have a brand new one
#1103 [14:25] <SansNumbers> I think it'd be the same instructions with mint and ubuntu
#1104 [14:26] <Wug> Skydive: if wired connection doesnt fix it then im stumped
#1105 [14:26] <Skydive> erm
#1106 [14:26] <Skydive> Wug
#1107 [14:26] <Wug> only thing id have left to recommend is like, uninstalling all of your firewalls
#1108 [14:27] <Wug> having more than one, they sometimes conflict and do weird stuff
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#1110 [14:29] <Skydive2> hi
#1111 [14:29] <Skydive2> yeah my nick was already taken
#1112 [14:29] <Skydive2> so weird!!! D:
#1113 [14:29] <Skydive2> Wub its not working, so im sorry to tell you this but.
#1114 [14:29] <Skydive2> Your Stupid.
#1115 [14:29] <Grim_Reaper> o_O
#1116 [14:30] <Skydive> yes what
#1117 [14:30] <Grim_Reaper> What an ungrateful person ._.
#1118 [14:30] <Skydive> im connected over wire
#1119 [14:30] <Skydive> thanks though wub.
#1120 [14:30] <Skydive> ignoring what Reaper said
#1121 [14:30] <Skydive> as he points out facts with no apparent evidence.
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#1123 [14:31] <Wug> you're grating on my patience
#1124 [14:31] <Grim_Reaper> He actually took the time to try and help you Skydive
#1125 [14:31] <SansNumbers> ok so i'll just get a video card I guess
#1126 [14:31] <Skydive> i said thanks
#1127 [14:31] <Grim_Reaper> Calling him stupid is BELOW being low
#1128 [14:31] <Skydive> i serious am thankfu.
#1129 [14:31] <Skydive> how is it below being low :/
#1130 [14:31] <Grim_Reaper> SansNumbers is it your card?
#1131 [14:31] <Grim_Reaper> Calling him stupid is an insult =\
#1132 [14:31] <Skydive> shit is it
#1133 [14:31] <Grim_Reaper> If he was stupid he wouldn't even know what to try in the first place
#1134 [14:32] <SansNumbers> Grim_Reaper It's probably something in the OS
#1135 [14:32] <SansNumbers> since it worked in windows 7
#1136 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> I would assume so SansNumbers
#1137 [14:32] <Skydive> okay lets put it like this, im stupid and he isnt.
#1138 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> Though its sad none the less >_>
#1139 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> Thats even worse to insult yourself .-.
#1140 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> Anyways Ima just shush now
#1141 [14:32] <Skydive> .....
#1142 [14:32] <Wug> stop arguing
#1143 [14:32] <Skydive> we arent arguing
#1144 [14:32] <Skydive> we are friendly arguing
#1145 [14:33] <Wug> its a proper subset
#1146 [14:33] <Skydive> subset?
#1147 [14:34] <Skydive> ill use hamachi.
#1148 [14:34] <Skydive> i hope it works
#1149 [14:34] <Skydive> thanks wug.
#1150 [14:34] <SansNumbers> maybe if i installed all of the windows stuff for java and minecraft and ran it under wine, then it might work better?
#1151 [14:35] <SansNumbers> i doubt it though, lemme try it
#1152 [14:35] <Wug> SansNumbers: I rather doubt it
#1153 [14:35] <Wug> you could try it though
#1154 [14:35] <SansNumbers> it's something
#1155 [14:37] <SansNumbers> well actually i'll update to u31 first then try again in wine
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#1157 [14:39] <SansNumbers> k that was a dumb idea
#1158 [14:39] <SansNumbers> brb
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#1160 [14:55] <Guest_FIN> I am back :)
#1161 [14:56] <Guest_FIN> So, I Disabled my firewall for a moment and MC Launcher was able to connect to the web and display the news of the frontpage.
#1162 [14:57] <Guest_FIN> I have Minecraft.exe allowed to access internet in my firewall, what other programs need access..?
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#1164 [14:57] <blakeman1> hello!
#1165 [14:58] <blakeman1> anyone need help?
#1166 [14:58] <Guest_FIN> I do...
#1167 [14:58] <blakeman1> what do you need?
#1168 [14:58] <Guest_FIN> my Minecraft client launcher cannot connect to the web
#1169 [14:58] <blakeman1> are you connected to the internet?
#1170 [14:59] <blakeman1> wait
#1171 [14:59] <blakeman1> -_-
#1172 [14:59] <blakeman1> nvm
#1173 [14:59] <Guest_FIN> I disabled my firewall for a moment and it did connect...but Minecraft.exe is cleared for access in zonealarm
#1174 [14:59] <Guest_FIN> lol, yea I'll ignore that Q :P
#1175 [14:59] <blakeman1> whats zonealarm?
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#1177 [15:00] <Guest_FIN> so, what other programs does the client use to connect and update etc..?
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#1179 [15:00] <Guest_FIN> Zone Alarm is my firewall...
#1180 [15:00] <blakeman1> you could go to the browser and play it there
#1181 [15:00] <blakeman1> oh
#1182 [15:00] <Guest_FIN> it doesnt work in browser either,
#1183 [15:00] <Guest_FIN> it doesnt even load in the browser..
#1184 [15:01] <blakeman1> what does it do in the browser?
#1185 [15:01] <blakeman1> oh
#1186 [15:01] <blakeman1> does it get stuck at loading?
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#1188 [15:01] <Guest_FIN> no
#1189 [15:01] <blakeman1> white screen?
#1190 [15:01] <Guest_FIN> it says it cannot connect to server when I log in the launcher
#1191 [15:02] <blakeman1> try turning off you firewall completely
#1192 [15:02] <Guest_FIN> I did, and it worked
#1193 [15:02] <blakeman1> so cant you keep it off?
#1194 [15:03] <Guest_FIN> what other programs need access through my firewall besides minecraft.exe?
#1195 [15:03] <blakeman1> none
#1196 [15:03] <Guest_FIN> um, I prefer not to
#1197 [15:03] <blakeman1> XD
#1198 [15:03] <blakeman1> im just jk'ing
#1199 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Don't forget Java
#1200 [15:05] <blakeman1> jes
#1201 [15:05] <blakeman1> yes
#1202 [15:06] <Guest_FIN> well, there lies my problem...I've got over 35 java SE Binarys and whatnot in the firewall program list and they're all also allowed...
#1203 [15:07] <Guest_FIN> not all of them are in use for sure, they're just leftovers from me trying to get NetBeans successfully installed...
#1204 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Oh geez
#1205 [15:07] <Guest_FIN> Whatever you say, don't tell me to reinstall the firewall... xD
#1206 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> You're going to need to figure out which java you need to allow through that firewall, as Minecraft uses java.
#1207 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps add it manually, if you can?
#1208 [15:08] <Guest_FIN> a handful are set to allow automatically, the rest are set so that the FW requests authorisation
#1209 [15:09] <Guest_FIN> but it never asks me when I fire up the MC launcher
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#1211 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> What firewall do you run?
#1212 [15:09] <Guest_FIN> zone alarm
#1213 [15:09] * GreyVulpine winces
#1213 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> I've never gotten people with zonealarm working on here. Have always had to uninstall it.
#1214 [15:10] <Guest_FIN> my brother uses it too, and he has no issues..
#1215 [15:11] <Guest_FIN> I tried Norton, but that was absolutely useless, it kept deleting important files from other games...
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#1217 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I don't really know what to tell you. Zonealarm's known to cause problems with Minecraft around here.
#1218 [15:12] <Morrolan> "Important files", suuure. XD
#1219 [15:12] <Guest_FIN> hmm, ok
#1220 [15:12] <Morrolan> I can very well imagine what these "Important files" are ;D
#1221 [15:13] <Guest_FIN> Morrolan, try playing MU Online with Norton.
#1222 [15:13] <Morrolan> Ok then, if you say so I'll believe you. ;)
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#1224 [15:24] <flooodie> hey guys
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#1227 [15:49] <Skywing> Does anyone know how far away digging can be heard?
#1228 [15:50] <Skywing> I can't seem to find any information about the distance that sounds travel ingame
#1229 [15:55] <zkxs> You could test it in a server
#1230 [15:55] <zkxs> I know that note blocks can be heard 48 blocks away, but digging is probably much less than that.
#1231 [15:59] <Skywing> Trying to determine if someone was using xray... they claim to have heard digging something from up to 50 blocks away, with around 20 blocks of vertical seperation
#1232 [16:02] <zkxs> They probably were. You could use this if you are on a bukkit server: http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/orebfuscator/
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#1237 [16:26] <Mutoko> why is paypal not working
#1238 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> As nobody here works for Paypal, we cannot answer that question for you. Contact Paypal or your financial institution.
#1239 [16:27] <Mutoko> nothing i do works it rejects it every time i do not know why
#1240 [16:27] <Mutoko> ok
#1241 [16:28] <Mutoko> i have a discover card and paypal is not working. how else could i get it?
#1242 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> If neither Moneybookers nor Paypal is accepting your card, try a different card. If you do not have one, call up Discover's customer service number, ask if they're blocking payment to Mojang AB.
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#1244 [16:29] <Mutoko> ok
#1245 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> We usually see financial institutions block payments due to international anti-fraud protection
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#1247 [16:30] <Mutoko> how do the gift cards work?
#1248 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> For minecraft? You buy a Minecraft Gift code. Mojang will send you an email containing a string of numbers and letters. The person that you give the code to, will redeem that at minecraft.net
#1249 [16:31] <Mutoko> ok thanks
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#1251 [16:42] <Coolkid7665> I need some help.
#1252 [16:42] <Coolkid7665> I need some help.
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#1254 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1255 [16:43] <Coolkid7665> Minecraft Multiplayer won't work.
#1256 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> And what happens when you try?
#1257 [16:43] <Coolkid7665> I get blank screen
#1258 [16:43] <Coolkid7665> black screen
#1259 [16:43] <Coolkid7665> when I try.
#1260 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Is this after you put in a server address?
#1261 [16:43] <Coolkid7665> What?
#1262 [16:43] <Coolkid7665> How do I do that?
#1263 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> When exactly do you get a black screen?
#1264 [16:44] <Coolkid7665> After I select a server.
#1265 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Where?
#1266 [16:44] <Coolkid7665> It loads for a split second and than
#1267 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Are you playing on classic or premium? In the web browser or the downloaded client?
#1268 [16:45] <Coolkid7665> Classic Browser.
#1269 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Ah. Try a different browser. If that doesn't work, uninstall and reinstall java
#1270 [16:45] <Coolkid7665> Alright, I have Firefox and INternet Explorer
#1271 [16:45] <Coolkid7665> I'll try Java.
#1272 [16:45] <Coolkid7665> I installed firefox due to this problem.
#1273 [16:47] <Coolkid7665> Where exactly do I uninstall java.
#1274 [16:47] <Coolkid7665> From Control Panel?
#1275 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1276 [16:48] <Coolkid7665> Do I do that from Add Or Remove Programs?
#1277 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Right
#1278 [16:48] <Coolkid7665> Programs and Features I mean.
#1279 [16:48] <Coolkid7665> I'm on Windows 7.
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#1283 [16:54] <bjonnhy> Hello
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#1285 [16:54] <bjonnhy> I would like to ask about some erro
#1286 [16:54] <bjonnhy> r
#1287 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> What error would that be?
#1288 [16:55] <bjonnhy> I got several mods installed
#1289 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Are they up to date?
#1290 [16:55] <bjonnhy> I got everything right set up
#1291 [16:55] <bjonnhy> In the same way as my other computer, and i'ts works just fine
#1292 [16:56] <bjonnhy> I have the error report from modloader, but its quite long
#1293 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Then copy the .minecraft folder from the computer that works, over to the one you're trying to use
#1294 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URl
#1295 [16:56] <bjonnhy> k
#1296 [16:57] <bjonnhy> http://pastebin.com/5q6tf7Pa
#1297 [16:58] <zkxs> I have found that copying .minecraft doesn't work all the time, for example copying from linux to windows. bin/natives is probably the culprit there though
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#1299 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Probably
#1300 [16:58] <Coolkid7665> Didn't work.
#1301 [16:58] <bjonnhy> Both machines is Windoes 7 though
#1302 [16:58] <Coolkid7665> Re-installing Java did not work.
#1303 [16:59] <Coolkid7665> Plus, I'm running on Firefox.
#1304 [16:59] <bjonnhy> Did you see my paste grey? Sorry for being unpatient but I'm tired
#1305 [16:59] <bjonnhy> :(
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#1307 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, moment, looks like you're running 1.3.3.24 of forge.
#1308 [17:01] <bjonnhy> yea
#1309 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> Latest stable is 1.3.3.12
#1310 [17:02] <Coolkid7665> A little help please.
#1311 [17:02] <bjonnhy> got the lates on the other machine, but I kinda didn't try the stable..
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#1313 [17:02] <Coolkid7665> It's not working on either of my browsers I reinstalled Java still nothing.
#1314 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> bjonnhy - I'd recommend trying the latest recommended version
#1315 [17:02] <bjonnhy> Latest not recmmened thingy
#1316 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Coolkid7665 - Has minecraft ever worked before?
#1317 [17:02] <bjonnhy> I'll brb then
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#1319 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Coolkid7665 - Hello?
#1320 [17:03] <Coolkid7665> Only Single Player.
#1321 [17:03] <Magiobiwan> What's going on?
#1322 [17:03] <Coolkid7665> I can get on Single Player Right now.
#1323 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Coolkid7665 - Then Minecraft should be working fine. Hmm.
#1324 [17:04] <Coolkid7665> I just started yesterday could that have anything to do with it?
#1325 [17:04] <Magiobiwan> GreyVulpine: You should set in the topic for Minecraft PE issues to Be referred to me.
#1326 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Coolkid7665 - Could you pull up the Java console when you try to load the multiplayer? Paste the contents of it to www.pastebin.com and give us the URL
#1327 [17:04] <bjonnhy> Grey, do you know if I can just paste the recommended forge in the jar, or do I have to get a blanc?
#1328 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> bjonnhy - I don't do support for Forge. That's something you'll need to ask the creator of Forge for.
#1329 [17:04] <bjonnhy> blanc jar
#1330 [17:06] <Coolkid7665> GreyVulpine - Java Runtime Environment?
#1331 [17:06] <bjonnhy> I can test my self if you don't know..
#1332 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Coolkid7665 - Hmm?
#1333 [17:07] <Coolkid7665> I'm not sure what you mean.
#1334 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Coolkid7665 - Go to the multiplayer link for minecraft. Let it load until you get the black screen. Look at the bottom-right of your screen, near the clock. There, you should see a white coffee cup icon
#1335 [17:08] <Coolkid7665> k
#1336 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Right click on it, open up the Java Console. This will pop up a window with a bunch of debug text.
#1337 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Copy everything in there to www.pastebin.com and submit it, give us the URL
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#1339 [17:11] <Coolkid7665> It doesn't give me enough time to click it.
#1340 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Does it go away?
#1341 [17:12] <Coolkid7665> Yep
#1342 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Strange.
#1343 [17:13] <Coolkid7665> I opened it for a sec then it closed
#1344 [17:13] <bjonnhy> Many thanks GreyVulpine, just pasted the recomended in my .jar, and now it's just these stupid blockvalues I have to change in the congfigs..
#1345 [17:13] * GreyVulpine nods
#1345 [17:13] <Coolkid7665> I wonder what's going on.
#1346 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Coolkid7665 - Hmm, something's closing/blocking java?
#1347 [17:13] * bjonnhy happy
#1347 [17:14] <Coolkid7665> I have AVG 2012
#1348 [17:14] <Coolkid7665> That might be it.
#1349 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> AVG has been known to block minecraft.
#1350 [17:14] <Coolkid7665> But not single player for me.
#1351 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Multiplayer traffic then. Hitting AVG's firewall
#1352 [17:15] <Coolkid7665> I wish I could uninstall AVG.
#1353 [17:16] <Coolkid7665> Also another seperate question, Can you download Minecraft Classic.
#1354 [17:16] <Coolkid7665> ?
#1355 [17:16] <Wug> nope
#1356 [17:16] <Wug> its online only
#1357 [17:16] <Coolkid7665> Odd, people at school talk about them downloading Classic
#1358 [17:17] <Coolkid7665> Well they don't say classic they say free version.
#1359 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Then they're talking about pirating minecraft
#1360 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> We don't support pirated versions here
#1361 [17:17] <Coolkid7665> I wouldn't either.
#1362 [17:18] <zkxs> Although, almost everyone I know pirated minecraft, then bought it when they liked it.
#1363 [17:19] <Coolkid7665> Isn't pirated minecraft not allowed?
#1364 [17:19] * GreyVulpine didn't >.>
#1364 [17:19] <zkxs> This was back before the demo, though....
#1365 [17:19] <Coolkid7665> you mean classic?
#1366 [17:19] <zkxs> ??demo
#1367 [17:20] <zkxs> ?? demo
#1368 [17:20] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#1369 [17:20] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#1370 [17:20] <zkxs> ^ is that still the beta version?
#1371 [17:21] <Coolkid7665> How do you remove it after trial expires?
#1372 [17:21] <Wug> you can just uninstall it
#1373 [17:21] <zkxs> You can delete the launcher and %appdata%\.minecraft
#1374 [17:21] <Wug> I think
#1375 [17:21] <Coolkid7665> From Uninstall Programs?
#1376 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> Something like that, yeah
#1377 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> No, minecraft doesn't 'install' like other programs
#1378 [17:22] <zkxs> Although apt-get install minecraft would be amazingly convenient
#1379 [17:23] <Coolkid7665> Ok I have Demo
#1380 [17:23] <Coolkid7665> How long does it last 90 minutes?
#1381 [17:23] <zkxs> yep
#1382 [17:23] <Coolkid7665> awesome alright let's do this
#1383 [17:23] <zkxs> After that it locks down and you can't use the world anymore
#1384 [17:24] <Magiobiwan> Coolkid7665: You CAN download World of Minecraft for the classic version. I don't believe it is officially supported.
#1385 [17:24] <Coolkid7665> it says 1 hour 40 minutes here.
#1386 [17:24] <Magiobiwan> However, one nice thing about it is that does use Hardware 3D acceleration for MC Classic
#1387 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> WoM is not an official client
#1388 [17:25] <Wug> Magiobiwan: I'm pretty sure you get HW acceleration anyway
#1389 [17:26] <Magiobiwan> Nope.
#1390 [17:26] <Wug> otherwise you would not have graphics driver issues with it
#1391 [17:26] <Magiobiwan> I checked.
#1392 [17:26] <Magiobiwan> Key bit is Minecraft CLASSIC.
#1393 [17:26] <Wug> yeah, I know
#1394 [17:26] <Coolkid7665> I have Demo not WoW
#1395 [17:26] <zkxs> WoM?
#1396 [17:26] <Wug> you can get pixel format errors with classic if you have driver issues
#1397 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1398 [17:27] <Magiobiwan> On my laptop and my school workstation, doing MC Classic, it's not tapping my GPU at all.
#1399 [17:27] <Magiobiwan> WoM does though.
#1400 [17:27] <Wug> what is the difference in framerate
#1401 [17:28] <Wug> for the record, you can run the current version without acceleration
#1402 [17:28] <Wug> there is some command line argument you can pass to force software rendering
#1403 [17:28] <Wug> I get a framerate difference of about 5000%
#1404 [17:28] <Wug> and I have a powerful processor and a meh gpu
#1405 [17:29] <Wug> so in a situation with a meh processor and a powerful gpu, you'd easily see 15000% difference
#1406 [17:29] <Wug> if you're not seeing a difference of at least 1000%, its not done in software
#1407 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> http://minecraftirc.net/thread-17.html
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#1409 [17:49] <Coolkid7665> Can you spawn in Minecraft Demo?
#1410 [17:51] <Morrolan> "spawn"?
#1411 [17:51] <Morrolan> If you die you'll respawn I think, yes.
#1412 [18:00] <langkid1> thinking about starting my own server list site
#1413 [18:00] <langkid1> since all the others touch themselves 24/7
#1414 [18:00] <Morrolan> Hah, yet another site?
#1415 [18:00] <langkid1> Morrolan, yes, based on the fact that no server will receive more adverts than the other
#1416 [18:00] <Morrolan> That makes... six I know of, of which three are popular I guess.
#1417 [18:00] <Morrolan> Heh, okay.
#1418 [18:01] <langkid1> ex: click a button, get 10 random servers, no annoying ads telling you to play on the server that put in the highest bid
#1419 [18:01] <langkid1> also, written reviews, no just "one up this server" buttons
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#1423 [18:20] <bigcj> i need assistance with my server other players can't connect
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#1425 [18:22] <Morrolan> bigcj - Did you portforward?
#1426 [18:22] <Morrolan> Also, what IP are they using to connect?
#1427 [18:22] <Morrolan> And, lastly, what is the error message they get when trying to connect?
#1428 [18:23] <bigcj> what sorry i left for a sec so what
#1429 [18:23] <bigcj> they got cannot reach server
#1430 [18:24] <Morrolan> What IP did you give them to connect?
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#1432 [18:25] <bigcj> my srver is 75.120.236.218
#1433 [18:25] <Morrolan> Okay. Now did you set up portforwarding?
#1434 [18:25] <Morrolan> !check 75.120.236.218
#1435 [18:26] <bigcj> yes we tried both
#1436 [18:26] <Morrolan> You tried both?
#1437 [18:26] <bigcj> with :25565 and without
#1438 [18:27] <Morrolan> That's not what portforwarding is. In order to let people from outside connect you will have to set up so called port-forwarding in your router.
#1439 [18:27] <Morrolan> This basically tells your router to allow connections on port 25565 and redirect them to your PC.
#1440 [18:28] <bigcj> wait ive done that they were able to connect before but now they can try this ip 99.195.234.232:25565
#1441 [18:29] <Morrolan> Uh, what is with this IP?
#1442 [18:29] <bigcj> what
#1443 [18:29] <Morrolan> Either way. If it worked previously but now it does not anymore then chances are that your internal IP changed. I suggest you check that the one in the portforwarding rule matches your current one.
#1444 [18:29] <Morrolan> "99.195.234.232:25565" <- what is with this IP?
#1445 [18:30] <bigcj> GreyVulpine gave this ip to me for my friend to connect
#1446 [18:30] <Morrolan> Ah, okay.
#1447 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Looks like your IP changed then. Your public IP is no longer that
#1448 [18:31] <bigcj> k how do i find my public ip
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#1450 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> ;check bigcj
#1451 [18:31] <WugBot> 174-125-204-171.dyn.centurytel.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: A Minecraft Server (0/20)
#1452 [18:31] <Morrolan> Ow.
#1453 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> ;ip bigcj
#1454 [18:31] <WugBot> IP address of bigcj is: 174.125.204.171
#1455 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Use that IP ^
#1456 [18:31] <Morrolan> This... yea, would have taken me some time to figure that out.
#1457 [18:31] <bigcj> k
#1458 [18:32] <nickelback7> My minecraft.jar isn't working. Could someone please check it out? http://www.mediafire.com/?cfqgdf47dn3t57t
#1459 [18:32] <nickelback7> it gives me an error after i attempt to login
#1460 [18:32] <Morrolan> Installed any mods, nickelback7?
#1461 [18:32] <Morrolan> Also, what is the error you get?
#1462 [18:32] <nickelback7> yes but i used force update
#1463 [18:33] <nickelback7> first my screen goes black then i get the mc crash screen
#1464 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> That minecraft.jar is 6k
#1465 [18:33] <nickelback7> is that bad?
#1466 [18:33] <NotiCon> its more than normal
#1467 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Either you're not telling us the whole truth, or you're trying to give one of us a virus
#1468 [18:34] <Morrolan> That's about twice the size of the normal .jar
#1469 [18:34] <langkid1> O_O looks like bigcj needs dyn DNS
#1470 [18:34] <nickelback7> well i gave you my jar from %appdata%/.minecraft
#1471 [18:34] <nickelback7> and /bin
#1472 [18:34] <Morrolan> Pft, and I was planning to check its Hash value. I really should try to think of simpler solutions first. ^^
#1473 [18:34] <NotiCon> did you try to delete the .jar and rerun the app?
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#1475 [18:34] <Morrolan> Just wipe the whole bin folder and rerun it.
#1476 [18:34] <nickelback7> ok
#1477 [18:34] <nickelback7> ill try that
#1478 [18:34] <nickelback7> ill try that
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#1480 [18:35] <nickelback7> yea!! thank you all
#1481 [18:35] <nickelback7> It works now
#1482 [18:35] <langkid1> ur welcome
#1483 [18:35] <langkid1> ur welcome
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#1485 [18:36] <Morrolan> Did a force update my ass.
#1486 [18:36] <Morrolan> Sorry.
#1487 [18:36] <langkid1> ^
#1488 [18:36] <NotiCon> more like failed a force update
#1489 [18:42] <sugoi> hello guys! :)
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#1493 [18:51] <benfa79> Are there any seeds for 12w08a where a stonghold is close to the spawn point?
#1494 [18:52] <rippyrose23> you could try my custom server: http://www.mediafire.com/?4ndhb0cin879tig it has a addon that places you next to one
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#1496 [19:07] <Morrolan> !kb rippyrose23 Distributing malware
#1497 [19:07] * GreyBot kicked rippyrose23 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ippyrose23 :<Kicks:913>)
#1498 [19:07] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine - ^
#1499 [19:07] <Morrolan> Same IP as the guy who gave that mediafire link to the minecraft.jar earlier
#1500 [19:08] <Morrolan> File has approximately the same size, just that he now adveristed it as "custom server software"
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#1503 [19:10] <micha> hi there. i was wondering
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#1505 [19:10] <Coolkid7665> Is WoW allowed or is it against rules?
#1506 [19:11] <Coolkid7665> WoM*
#1507 [19:11] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine - The two files he linked have the same md5sum, really seem to be the same file.
#1508 [19:11] <Wug> Coolkid7665: depends
#1509 [19:11] <Coolkid7665> Like is it allowed by Minecraft?
#1510 [19:11] <Wug> well, its an addon for classic
#1511 [19:11] <Wug> yes, its allowed, but some servers may not allow it
#1512 [19:11] <micha> since i started my server, my castle was in a swamp biome. after days and days of playing it started to snow. know my world is starting to get covered under ice. is there any way this will end?
#1513 [19:12] <Morrolan> This... shouldn't happen, micha.
#1514 [19:12] <Coolkid7665> What skills do you need to develop a server?
#1515 [19:12] <Morrolan> Coolkid7665 - Patience and coding experience.
#1516 [19:12] <Morrolan> Oh, and a LOT of patience. Minecraft's server protocol is everything but amazing.
#1517 [19:12] <Coolkid7665> It's allowed to develop them, correct?
#1518 [19:13] <micha> it's really annoying
#1519 [19:13] <micha> could i prevent this from changing the seeds? or is there any way to change it?
#1520 [19:13] <Morrolan> Coolkid7665 - Sure. You may not reuse their textures when you create a new Minecraft client, but a client/server just like that is no problem.
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#1522 [19:14] <Morrolan> micha - Whatever this issue is, there's a chance it'll be fixed with the next update, when biome data is written to disk.
#1523 [19:14] <micha> so this will be done?
#1524 [19:14] <micha> i mean the writing biomes to disc part
#1525 [19:15] <Morrolan> Yep, the next update, respectively the new world format, will finally have biome saved to the savefile instaed of calculating it on the fly.
#1526 [19:16] <micha> well this isn't what i hoped to hear... but thank you
#1527 [19:16] <Morrolan> The only explanation I can think of is, is that for some reason the seed of your world changes.
#1528 [19:17] <Morrolan> However the only time I know this to happen is when there's a power-outtage.
#1529 [19:17] <micha> i started the server 'vanilla'
#1530 [19:17] <micha> and then gone bukkit
#1531 [19:17] <sugoi> Morrolan: i was here just as he linked that dumb file - i should have voiced my concern about the untrusted source; hopefully that visitor didn't take it
#1532 [19:17] <micha> i just copied the map
#1533 [19:17] <Morrolan> sugoi - Heh, no worries, I didn't suspect anything when I saw it for the first time either.
#1534 [19:18] <Morrolan> micha - That shouldn't affect it. :/
#1535 [19:18] <micha> i have done this before... and it worked fine
#1536 [19:18] <Wug> well, first of all, distributing the minecraft jars is against the tos
#1537 [19:18] <Wug> so if someone tries to do it, immediate red flags should happen
#1538 [19:19] <sugoi> micha: changing server versions (or types) _should_ only change biomes for _new_ chunks, not existing ones
#1539 [19:19] <micha> should ;-)
#1540 [19:19] <Coolkid7665> Do you need payed version for WoM?
#1541 [19:19] <Morrolan> Coolkid7665 - WoM is a classic client, so no.
#1542 [19:19] <Coolkid7665> kk but you download minecraft.jar right?
#1543 [19:19] <Wug> Coolkid7665: you should read the directions
#1544 [19:21] <micha> can i ask you some questions for bukkit mods as well?
#1545 [19:21] <sugoi> micha: i know a little, but #bukkit would really be best to help you out
#1546 [19:21] <sugoi> micha: it's just as easy as typeing '/join #bukkit' :)
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#1548 [19:21] <micha> sorry, could you post that link again?
#1549 [19:22] <sugoi> ?
#1550 [19:22] <sugoi> you just type /join [channel name]
#1551 [19:22] <sugoi> so, for #bukkit, /join #bukkit
#1552 [19:22] <micha> that one to the channel
#1553 [19:22] <micha> ah, thanks
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#1559 [19:48] <noah160> hello?
#1560 [19:49] <sugoi> noah160: hi
#1561 [19:50] <noah160> we the only ones on?
#1562 [19:50] <Wug> nah, there are tons of people
#1563 [19:50] <sugoi> noah160: ha, no
#1564 [19:50] <sugoi> noah160: we're all just here quietly, waiting patiently for anyone to talk to us
#1565 [19:50] <noah160> oh ok
#1566 [19:50] * sugoi gigles
#1566 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Brains.
#1567 [19:50] <sugoi> giggles* even
#1568 [19:52] <noah160> well i needed help because one of my mods stoped working when i downloaded the newest snapshot
#1569 [19:53] * Wug runs away from GreyZombie
#1569 [19:53] * GreyVulpine shuffles after Wug
#1569 [19:53] <Wug> D:
#1570 [19:54] <Wug> I'm going to be eaten
#1571 [19:54] <noah160> can anyone help me?
#1572 [19:54] <WugBot> noah160: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1573 [19:54] <Wug> mods dont work between versions
#1574 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> With mods, each time minecraft updates, the mods have to be updated as well
#1575 [19:54] <Wug> either wait for them to update, or use the last known working version
#1576 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Because you're using a snapshot version of minecraft, the mod won't be compatible
#1577 [19:54] <sugoi> noah160: ignore WugBot - it's a bot, says that when you say 'help me'
#1578 [19:55] <noah160> so with the snapshot the mods wont work?
#1579 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Right
#1580 [19:56] <sugoi> noah160: not unless the mod makers update it for a snapshot
#1581 [19:56] <sugoi> which is highly unlikely
#1582 [19:56] <noah160> ok. i'll just have to live without until minecraft 1.2 comes out
#1583 [19:57] <noah160> thank's for helping
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#1585 [20:02] <sugoi> where do mibbiters get links to here now?
#1586 [20:02] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1586 [20:02] <zkxs> they don't D:
#1587 [20:03] <sugoi> zkxs: well that micha was from mibbit
#1588 [20:03] <zkxs> meh, probably the forums
#1589 [20:03] <Wug> maybe we are back on lists somewhere
#1590 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> http://chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.esper.net&channel=#minecrafthelp ?
#1591 [20:03] <sugoi> ah
#1592 [20:03] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: well yes, but where would they find that link i was wondering
#1593 [20:04] * GreyVulpine shrugs and googles.
#1593 [20:04] <zkxs> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/197-read-first-how-to-get-the-best-support/ <-- last post?
#1594 [20:04] <sugoi> fair
#1595 [20:07] <zkxs> D: https://www.google.com/search?q=link:chat.mibbit.com%2F%3Fserver%3Dirc.esper.net%26channel%3D%23minecrafthelp
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#1597 [20:23] <FairyCarry> I've downloaded the texture packs Bordercraft(Borderlands) and PhotoRealism, and they both gave me a similar problem(seen here: http://i42.tinypic.com/ofdp8z.jpg ). Any ideas how to fix this?
#1598 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Not running the correct version of MCpatcher?
#1599 [20:24] <FairyCarry> I am.
#1600 [20:25] <FairyCarry> Patching is fine
#1601 [20:25] <FairyCarry> But every time I load up a high def pack, it does this to me.
#1602 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Either the pack is out of date, or the patcher isn't loading the patch right (usually from being out of date)
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#1604 [20:28] <FairyCarry> I wasn't aware there was an mcpatcher outside of Minecraft's patching itself. Now have 2.3.3 and it works fine. thx
#1605 [20:28] <FairyCarry> I wasn't aware there was an mcpatcher outside of Minecraft's patching itself. Now have 2.3.3 and it works fine. thx
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#1607 [20:29] <Kawachiboy14> hello everyone :)
#1608 [20:30] <Kawachiboy14> i can't by some gift in minecraft.net anyone can help me please ?
#1609 [20:31] <Kawachiboy14> it's says "You are only allowed to have 2 unredeemed gift codes at once and 5 in total."
#1610 [20:32] <Kawachiboy14> but i din't have unredeem gift
#1611 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> Have you purchased any gift codes?
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#1613 [20:32] <Kawachiboy14> yes i have but it' just all redeemed
#1614 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Do you have more than 5 gift codes?
#1615 [20:33] <Kawachiboy14> Yes
#1616 [20:33] <Kawachiboy14> but it's all just have redeemed
#1617 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Then that's why, Mojang's limited the number of gift codes that you can purchase.
#1618 [20:34] <Kawachiboy14> oh it's just limit right now ? no more gift ?
#1619 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> If you want to purchase more gift codes, you'll need to contact Mojang.
#1620 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329763-i-want-to-buy-more-than-5-gift-codes-
#1621 [20:36] <Kawachiboy14> thanks mate
#1622 [20:36] <Kawachiboy14> thanks mate
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#1626 [20:58] <curmet> Hey, I have a flat map were I was making all this stuff in an NPC village. I have been working on it for about 2 days and I turned one of the village houses into a really cool house... but then I accidentally fell off the map, is there any way to get back to my place?
#1627 [20:59] <Scott> GreyVulpine: Anti-stolen credit card measure?
#1628 [20:59] <curmet> ?
#1629 [21:02] <curmet> any help please?
#1630 [21:02] <|Kiikun|Janus|> curmet: you fell off the map in a flatlands world...?
#1631 [21:02] <|Kiikun|Janus|> broke bedrock?
#1632 [21:03] <curmet> yeah
#1633 [21:03] <|Kiikun|Janus|> curmet: i asume you never built a bed and slept in it. you can try a world maping program like Cartograph G.
#1634 [21:05] <curmet> whats that?...and i never knew the whole bed thing dictated where u spawned, hah i wish i did
#1635 [21:06] <|Kiikun|Janus|> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/153066-cartograph-g-map-your-world-minecraft-10/
#1636 [21:06] <curmet> ah its too full
#1637 [21:08] <|Kiikun|Janus|> you can make a map of the world and use it to find the village you were building at. would sugest makign some sort of X where you are now so you have a point of reference
#1638 [21:08] <curmet> okay
#1639 [21:10] <|Kiikun|> alternative is to just fly WAAAAY up and fly around until you spot it... works best on Far view distance
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#1641 [21:17] <curmet> i tried, but i dont have far view. my java doesnt allow it
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#1644 [21:23] <auscompgeek> it doesn't allow it?
#1645 [21:23] <auscompgeek> it does for me
#1646 [21:23] <auscompgeek> it just gives me a warning
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#1655 [22:21] <DeadlyInsane> Help! I need an adult
#1656 [22:22] <DeadlyInsane> I'm being stalked by sticky controls
#1657 [22:22] <DeadlyInsane> anyone knows how to deal with this? :)
#1658 [22:22] <lemon-rev> get a new keyboard
#1659 [22:22] <xales> Do you mean "Sticky Keys" in Windows?
#1660 [22:23] <DeadlyInsane> it isnt my keyboard :)
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#1662 [22:23] <DeadlyInsane> no I mean in MC, some random controls like left, right or even space gets stickied
#1663 [22:23] <lemon-rev> does it happen in any other game ?
#1664 [22:24] <DeadlyInsane> I dunno what else to call it :)
#1665 [22:24] <DeadlyInsane> no
#1666 [22:24] <lemon-rev> what vers of mc are you running ?
#1667 [22:24] <DeadlyInsane> latest
#1668 [22:24] <lemon-rev> which is what 1.1 ?
#1669 [22:25] <DeadlyInsane> Yeah
#1670 [22:25] <DeadlyInsane> I uninstalled and reinstalled Java, but that didnt help
#1671 [22:26] <lemon-rev> get another keyboard give that a go if you still get the same results then you know its not your keyboard
#1672 [22:27] <DeadlyInsane> I'm on a laptop. but I guess I could try and plug in a usb keyboard
#1673 [22:31] <DeadlyInsane> and yes, it's also doing it on the usb keyboard
#1674 [22:32] <lemon-rev> hm
#1675 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Got any programs that screw with input from the keyboard? Any KVMs? Any programs like synergy?
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#1677 [22:32] <DeadlyInsane> nope
#1678 [22:33] <DeadlyInsane> only programs I've got running now is mIRC, Firefox and MC
#1679 [22:34] <xales> DeadlyInsane: I believe that...what was it called
#1680 [22:34] <xales> optifine? has a fix for that
#1681 [22:35] <DeadlyInsane> ok thanks, I'll google it :)
#1682 [22:37] <tyteen4a03> DeadlyInsane: just wondering, is the problem fixed by pressing the key stickied
#1683 [22:37] <DeadlyInsane> yah
#1684 [22:38] <tyteen4a03> I have that problem too, and it happens in every application
#1685 [22:39] <DeadlyInsane> I havent been playing too much with this crappy laptop, but it doesnt happen with wow or anything else but MC
#1686 [22:39] <tyteen4a03> probably all the lag caused by MC delayed keyboard/CPU comm
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#1692 [23:29] <Eden> Hello
#1693 [23:29] <Eden> I think I requested for help preivously
#1694 [23:30] <Wug> its possible, we see a lot of people
#1695 [23:30] <Wug> if you have a question, go ahead and ask it
#1696 [23:30] <Wug> DeadlyInsane: Its an lwjgl issue
#1697 [23:30] <Eden> Remember when I said something about minecraft crashing unexpedectly every 5 mins?
#1698 [23:31] <Wug> you may have better luck if you update to the most recent version
#1699 [23:31] <Eden> wait, there was a new update?
#1700 [23:31] <Eden> Wow,I haven't been updated. o.O
#1701 [23:31] <Wug> Eden: I was talking to DreamingInsane about lwjgl
#1702 [23:32] <Wug> Eden: I don't remember you specifically but lots of people have that issue
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#1704 [23:36] <mmdawg1> Ok I have a complaint I sent in a Support Ticket a few weeks ago and I have gotten no reply what is up with that
#1705 [23:37] <mmdawg1> hello??
#1706 [23:37] <xales> mmdawg1: Where did you submit a ticket?
#1707 [23:39] <mmdawg1> The mojang site
#1708 [23:39] <xales> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#1709 [23:40] <mmdawg1> its been like two weeks though
#1710 [23:40] <Eden> well, shit went down like this http://pastebin.com/hyMt6wsv
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#1712 [23:49] <Wug> Eden: is this immediate or after playing a bit? it looks fairly immediate
#1713 [23:50] <Eden> it's immeient after around 2-3 mins
#1714 [23:50] <Wug> mmdawg1: minecraft's help system is fairly overloaded
#1715 [23:50] <mmdawg1> ok
#1716 [23:50] <Wug> we can't help with complaints as we're community support
#1717 [23:50] <Wug> but we might be able to help with your issue
#1718 [23:50] <mmdawg1> How?
#1719 [23:50] <Wug> well, what is your issue
#1720 [23:51] <Wug> Eden: did you fix it before? or were you without a solution
#1721 [23:51] <mmdawg1> Ok so I migrated my account over to mojang and I didn't realize that it would do my non premium alt
#1722 [23:51] <Eden> I was without a solution
#1723 [23:51] <mmdawg1> so when I tried to login using my email it says it;'s not on records
#1724 [23:52] <mmdawg1> and the only way to fix it is to get the account guy to remove my alt or something like that
#1725 [23:53] <Wug> mmdawg1: yeah, we can't help with account issues :P
#1726 [23:53] <Wug> if its been that long with no response, you could submit another ticket
#1727 [23:53] <Wug> :dx > Eden
#1728 [23:53] <WugBot> Eden: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1729 [23:53] <WugBot> Eden: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1730 [23:53] <Wug> do that and I'll see if theres an obvious problem
#1731 [23:54] <mmdawg1> Can I have the ticket link?
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#1733 [23:55] <|Kiikun|> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1734 [23:56] <Eden> http://pastebin.com/5hv7tQbE
#1735 [23:58] <Eden> ?