#1 [00:00] <Eden> found anything?
#2 [00:00] <Wug> well, for one, youre on windows xp, which tends to only come in 32 bit
#3 [00:00] <Eden> yes, it's 32 bit
#4 [00:00] <Wug> 32 bit systems have issues playing for long sometimes
#5 [00:00] <Wug> because minecraft is a giant bloaty memory hog
#6 [00:01] <Wug> :P
#7 [00:01] <Eden> yes
#8 [00:01] <Eden> it's a hog
#9 [00:01] <Wug> your graphics driver is also a few years old, its been 7 years since it was updated
#10 [00:01] <Wug> you might get better results if you searched for an updated driver
#11 [00:01] <Eden> lol, really?
#12 [00:01] <Wug> Driver Date/Size: 8/4/2005 02:10:38, 205312 bytes
#13 [00:02] <Wug> ;search x300
#14 [00:02] <WugBot> No matches for "x300".
#15 [00:03] <Eden> I'll just find a upgrade for my X300
#16 [00:03] <Wug> you can probably go here: http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDSupportHub.aspx
#17 [00:03] <Eden> I already've found a upgrade for mine, it
#18 [00:04] <Wug> that works then
#19 [00:04] <Eden> ll probably take another 10 mins
#20 [00:05] <Magiobiwan> The x300 is OLD.
#21 [00:06] <Eden> very OLD, indeed
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#24 [00:16] <Cole36912> !check 76.170.138.191
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#26 [00:23] <Eden> !check 69.245.220.130:25565
#27 [00:25] <Eden> guys, know where I'm supposed to find ATI support?
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#29 [00:29] <FFGF> Is anybody actively helping, because I need help.
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#32 [00:33] <FFGF> Can somebody help me; I recently migrated my minecraft account into account.mojang.com and now I cannot change my skin and it has become a nuisance.
#33 [00:34] <Wug> can you log into minecraft.net?
#34 [00:37] <zkxs> Are you logging in using your email address?
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#36 [00:40] <FFGF> Yes I can login into minecraft.net and yes I am using my email adress
#37 [00:40] <FFGF> I can get into my account but I cannot change my skin
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#41 [00:49] <Eden> well, how can you explain this, I can run GTA:SA at medium quality smoothly, but I run Minecraft smoothly too..
#42 [00:49] <Eden> I think it must be the RAM problems?
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#44 [00:50] <zkxs> If you run both of them smoothly, what is the problem?
#45 [00:50] <Eden> minecraft runs fine, I think it's 30 fps or something
#46 [00:51] <Eden> it crashes every 3~ minutes
#47 [00:51] <zkxs> How much RAM do you have?
#48 [00:51] <Eden> 1GB
#49 [00:51] <Eden> should be enough?
#50 [00:52] <zkxs> What do you have the video settings on?
#51 [00:52] <zkxs> Specifically, render distance?
#52 [00:52] <Eden> I've tried setting everything to a minium
#53 [00:52] <Eden> so, yeah it's tiny
#54 [00:52] <zkxs> Does that buy you any more time?
#55 [00:53] <Eden> yes, but, only by a few minutes
#56 [00:53] <zkxs> It is probably RAM
#57 [00:53] <Eden> That's what I said
#58 [00:53] <Eden> know any fix for that?
#59 [00:53] <zkxs> Are you using the executable launcher?
#60 [00:53] <Eden> yes
#61 [00:54] <zkxs> Download the jar launcher, I want to try a possible fix. https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#62 [00:54] <Eden> allright, downloaded it
#63 [00:55] <zkxs> Are you familiar with command prompt?
#64 [00:55] <Eden> yes
#65 [00:56] <zkxs> Using cmd, navigate to the directory you saved the jar to and run this: `java -Xmx512M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame`
#66 [00:56] <Eden> allright
#67 [00:57] <zkxs> ^ That tells java to allocate minecraft a maximum of 512MB RAM.
#68 [00:57] <Eden> I do know that
#69 [00:57] <zkxs> Oh, ok :)
#70 [00:58] <zkxs> minecraft.net/support used to link to this channel, and we got a lot of technically inept people.
#71 [00:59] <Eden> ah
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#73 [00:59] <zkxs> The fact that you aren't using mibbit should have clued me in :P
#74 [00:59] <Eden> heh
#75 [00:59] <Eden> :)
#76 [00:59] <grindcore> I need help setting up a server if anyone can lend a hand
#77 [01:00] <zkxs> grindcore: Are you having trouble port forwarding?
#78 [01:01] <grindcore> i understand how to forward ports, i just dont know how to set up a server :P is there a website with a step by step?
#79 [01:01] <zkxs> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server
#80 [01:03] <grindcore> ill return with the results
#81 [01:03] <zkxs> the ;check command is nifty
#82 [01:03] <zkxs> ;check zkxs
#83 [01:03] <WugBot> ip98-184-129-94.tu.ok.cox.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Bukkit testing server (0/20)
#84 [01:04] <Eden> thank you, zkxs
#85 [01:04] <Eden> It works seamlessly, infact, I just killed off a whole horde of green slimes ;)
#86 [01:05] <zkxs> Eden: Glad to hear it! If I were you, the next thing I would do would be to make a nice shortcut :)
#87 [01:05] <Eden> hmm, I'm supposed to make a bat file for that, correct?
#88 [01:05] <zkxs> I would use a link so it doesn't spawn the black window
#89 [01:06] <grindcore> the tutorial is telling me to open textedit, where can i find this?
#90 [01:06] <zkxs> grindcore: Notepad?
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#92 [01:06] <Eden> >textedit he must be using mac
#93 [01:07] <zkxs> Eden: You can make the link like this `java.exe -Xmx512M -Xms512M -cp "path\to\minecraft.jar" net.minecraft.LauncherFrame`
#94 [01:08] <Eden> for the .bat file, correct?
#95 [01:08] <zkxs> I wouldn't use a bat file.
#96 [01:09] <zkxs> Just right click on desktop, new shortcut, then use that command I pasted
#97 [01:09] <grindcore> okay, now its telling me to go to terminal but i cant find this
#98 [01:09] <Eden> ah, thanks
#99 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> grindcore - Use your finder
#100 [01:09] <zkxs> If you are really OCD you could find an icon for it somewhere :)
#101 [01:10] <grindcore> i have tried to search for it a few times but i dont know what im looking for
#102 [01:10] <Eden> I'll find an icon, allright
#103 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> grindcore - Are you using the magnifying glass in the upper right corner?
#104 [01:10] <Eden> btw, is bildramer active lately?
#105 [01:10] <zkxs> You can use minecraft.exe as the icon
#106 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> grindcore - Once you put in "terminal", it should show up there as termina
#107 [01:10] <grindcore> i dont gave a magnifying glass
#108 [01:11] <zkxs> ^ majora's mask flashback
#109 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> What do you have in the upper right corner?
#110 [01:11] <grindcore> nothing..
#111 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Nothing?
#112 [01:11] <grindcore> oh, i see what youre talking about
#113 [01:11] <grindcore> i still cant find terminal
#114 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Terminal is a system utility. It should show up there
#115 [01:12] <grindcore> i can search applications or terminal and get nothing
#116 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> grindcore - Do you have Teamviewer?
#117 [01:16] <grindcore> hah! i was looking at mac instructions ^_^ i have a pc
#118 [01:16] * zkxs facepalm
#118 [01:18] <Eden> zkxs, I see why minecraft removed the link to this channel
#119 [01:18] <zkxs> ?... We are here because we like to help people
#120 [01:19] <Eden> that was a joke.
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#122 [01:22] <grindcore> well that tutorial didnt really help, lol. im still no closer at having a server
#123 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> grindcore - Get the minecraft_server.exe from minecraft.net/download
#124 [01:23] <grindcore> i made it as far as make a run.bat firl
#125 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Place it in a folder by itself. Run it.
#126 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Boom. Instant server
#127 [01:23] <grindcore> i have done that, do i use my ip?
#128 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#129 [01:23] <grindcore> how do i generate a world with that ip though?
#130 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> When you run minecraft_server.exe, it generates a world for you
#131 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> You can see it as the world folder
#132 [01:26] <grindcore> cant reach server
#133 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> What IP are you putting in?
#134 [01:27] <grindcore> 69.49.46.102:25565
#135 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Did you port forward?
#136 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> If not, use 127.0.0.1 or your local IP to connect
#137 [01:28] <grindcore> local ip?
#138 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> Yes, the ip of the computer. Check cmd -> ipconfig
#139 [01:28] <grindcore> oh
#140 [01:28] <grindcore> yeha, i tried to use mine
#141 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> If you're running the server on the same computer that you're using to play, use localhost or 127.0.0.1
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#147 [02:20] <grindcore> can someone test a server for me
#148 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> ;check grindcore
#149 [02:23] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 49-46-102.wireless.iaw.on.ca:25565 (Timed out)
#150 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't look like it worked
#151 [02:24] <grindcore> j,,..
#152 [02:24] <grindcore> hmm*
#153 [02:24] <grindcore> 192.168.1.50
#154 [02:25] <grindcore> any ideas as to why its not working?
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#158 [02:31] <Eden> "(
#159 [02:31] <Eden> :(
#160 [02:31] <Eden> I found another problem
#161 [02:32] <Eden> this time ,it's something aobout minidumps
#162 [02:39] <Wug> <Unthinkable> One of the game crash's heres my crop wont work, everytime it grows teh game crash's and heres my error thing http://pastebin.com/a5ycvcxy this works.
#163 [02:39] <Wug> unthinkable is a bot
#164 [02:39] <Wug> the bots are surpassing the miblets at creating sentences
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#166 [02:42] <tyteen4a03> Wug: that is a bad thing isn't it
#167 [02:47] <grindcore> so how do servers work? if i have my dificulty on hard is everyones on hard aswell?
#168 [02:48] <Wug> servers share difficulty with everyone on the map, yes
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#170 [02:50] <grindcore> oh good, so because its running from my pc it uses my difficulty
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#172 [02:54] <cwarn23> does anybody know of minecraft applet based clients I can download for my website?
#173 [02:55] <Eden> no such thing?
#174 [02:55] <cwarn23> applet based means when you play in the browser
#175 [02:55] <Eden> sorry, but I think that there's no such thing as that
#176 [02:56] <cwarn23> Well you can play in the browser on minecraft.net and minecraftforfree.com and several other sites
#177 [02:56] <Eden> ?
#178 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> minecraftforfree is not an official site, and actually uses a pirated version of minecraft
#179 [02:56] <Wug> dont say that thing
#180 [02:57] <Eden> wow, is it a touchy subject?
#181 [02:58] <Wug> generally people who talk about it are pirates
#182 [02:59] <Eden> hell, minecraft is one of the few things that I didn't pirated
#183 [02:59] <cwarn23> I paid $50 for minecraft on two accounts. cwarn23 and cwarn22
#184 [02:59] <Eden> lolwat
#185 [02:59] <Wug> vox is a bot and doesnt know that
#186 [03:00] <cwarn23> I just want to know how to have my own client on my website
#187 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> Not possible
#188 [03:00] <cwarn23> So everybody has to install every mod?
#189 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#190 [03:00] <Eden> figured that VoxelHead was a bot
#191 [03:01] <auscompgeek> heh
#192 [03:01] <auscompgeek> I originally pirated Minecraft, but then I bought it
#193 [03:01] <auscompgeek> cos I got bored of SSP
#194 [03:02] <cwarn23> I didn't know that it was possible to pirate until I bought two accounts
#195 [03:02] <auscompgeek> heh, yeah.
#196 [03:02] <auscompgeek> Minecraft doesn't have any DRM.
#197 [03:03] <cwarn23> I know I'll make an install program
#198 [03:03] <cwarn23> A program that installs the mods
#199 [03:05] <cwarn23> Thanks for letting me know that it was impossible as it makes me closer to finding a solution
#200 [03:05] <cwarn23> cya some time in the future
#201 [03:05] <cwarn23> cya some time in the future
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#203 [03:07] <grindcore> can someone help me trouble shoot why people arent able to log onto my server?
#204 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> Have you port forwarded?
#205 [03:08] <grindcore> yes
#206 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> ;check grindcore
#207 [03:08] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 49-46-102.wireless.iaw.on.ca:25565 (Timed out)
#208 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> What did you port forward?
#209 [03:08] <grindcore> 25565
#210 [03:09] <GreyVulpine> To what local ip address?
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#212 [03:09] <grindcore> 192.168.1.50
#213 [03:09] <Wug> is that your actual local address?
#214 [03:10] <grindcore> no, its a static ip
#215 [03:10] <Wug> you have to forward to your actual internal ip
#216 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> But is it the ip address of the computer running the minecraft_server?
#217 [03:10] <Wug> static or not
#218 [03:10] <grindcore> yes, i can connect to the server with that ip
#219 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> Didn't you say you couldn't access the router before? Did you manage to reset the password?
#220 [03:11] <grindcore> i have not, i made a static ip with port forwards program and used that
#221 [03:11] <grindcore> i figured out the password eventually
#222 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> Could we get a screenshot of the port forward page on your router?
#223 [03:14] <grindcore> http://postimage.org/image/agjsdpo65/
#224 [03:14] <grindcore> this?
#225 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> I suppose that looks right. Got any firewall or security software on that machine?
#226 [03:15] <grindcore> avg free and a firewall
#227 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> Happen to know if that firewall's blocking port 25565 traffic?
#228 [03:15] <grindcore> not suer
#229 [03:15] <grindcore> 1second
#230 [03:17] <grindcore> http://postimage.org/image/oezjgvb83/
#231 [03:17] <grindcore> does that tell you anything
#232 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Just that Windows Firewall is on.
#233 [03:18] <grindcore> well
#234 [03:18] <grindcore> i went into some settings
#235 [03:18] <grindcore> and all the minecraft server rules were turned off
#236 [03:18] <grindcore> i turned on and is now allowing inbound
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#238 [03:19] <grindcore> ;check grindcore
#239 [03:19] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 49-46-102.wireless.iaw.on.ca:25565 (Timed out)
#240 [03:20] <grindcore> ;check grindcore
#241 [03:20] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 49-46-102.wireless.iaw.on.ca:25565 (Timed out)
#242 [03:20] <grindcore> hmmm...
#243 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> ;ip grindcore
#244 [03:21] <WugBot> IP address of grindcore is: 69.49.46.102
#245 [03:21] <grindcore> how can i check if my firewall is blocking the port?
#246 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> Is that the ip address that your router says you have?
#247 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> No real easy way of determining that
#248 [03:22] <grindcore> ummm
#249 [03:22] <grindcore> in ip config
#250 [03:22] <grindcore> says .50
#251 [03:22] <grindcore> default gateway .102
#252 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> How about in your router?
#253 [03:22] <grindcore> i dont know how to check that
#254 [03:23] <jamietech> hi with the client->server authentication now it does not send the players session id anymore does it?
#255 [03:25] <grindcore> internal ip adress? when in rother settings? is that what you mean
#256 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> grindcore - I mean, what public/WAN/External IP address does your router think you have?
#257 [03:26] <grindcore> i have no idea what youre talking about
#258 [03:27] <grindcore> i made the adress .50
#259 [03:27] <jamietech> GreyVulpine: would you be able to answer my question
#260 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> jamietech - Sorry, haven't touched the server stuff since beta.
#261 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't know
#262 [03:27] <jamietech> mk thx anyway
#263 [03:27] <jamietech> oh god i sound like a derp with that
#264 [03:27] <jamietech> ok, thanks anyways *
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#266 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> grindcore - Your ISP gives you a public IP address. Your router translates that one public IP address into multiple private 192.168.x.y ip addresses
#267 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> I'm asking you, what your router thinks your public ip address is
#268 [03:29] <grindcore> i know what youre asking me, but i dont now where im looking to find this information. im in cmd>ipconfig
#269 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> Check your router's status page
#270 [03:29] <grindcore> DNS1: 69.49.32.2 DNS2: 69.49.45.27
#271 [03:29] <grindcore> ?
#272 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> That's not it
#273 [03:31] <grindcore> Internet IP Address: 169.254.1.2 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway: 169.254.1.1 DNS1: 69.49.32.2 DNS2: 69.49.45.27
#274 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> That.. would be why.
#275 [03:32] <grindcore> ?
#276 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> Could you try connecting to http://169.254.1.1 ?
#277 [03:32] <grindcore> sure
#278 [03:32] <grindcore> shall i forward that ip?
#279 [03:32] <Wug> 169.254.1.2 is an invalid address
#280 [03:32] <Wug> I think
#281 [03:33] <Wug> I think its one of those error state addresses
#282 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> What I'm betting you have, is a modem that's forwarding to your router, and a router that's doing NAT to your computer
#283 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> 169.254 is a valid address
#284 [03:33] <Wug> I know theres some weird random arbitrary error address that I never remember
#285 [03:34] <grindcore> says i can use the routers ip when i try to forward the port
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#287 [03:35] <GreyVulpine> grindcore - Do you get any sort of modem/router page with http://169.254.1.1
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#289 [03:36] <grindcore_> says i cant use the routers ip
#290 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#291 [03:37] <grindcore_> when i try to forward the port
#292 [03:37] <grindcore_> says i cant use .1
#293 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> You.. don't use .1
#294 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> grindcore - Do you get any sort of modem/router page with http://169.254.1.1
#295 [03:38] <grindcore_> yes, im in there already
#296 [03:38] <grindcore_> oh
#297 [03:38] <grindcore_> no
#298 [03:38] <grindcore_> i dont
#299 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> Then, does that address not work?
#300 [03:38] <grindcore_> the one you sent doesnt work no
#301 [03:39] * GreyVulpine ponders.
#301 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> There's something screwy with your network setup, that I need more information to really help.
#302 [03:40] <grindcore_> how can i help
#303 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> Your router says your public IP address is 169.254.1.2, which is not a valid public ip address.
#304 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> Your actual public IP address is:
#305 [03:40] <grindcore_> hmm
#306 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> ;ip grindcore_
#307 [03:40] <WugBot> IP address of grindcore_ is: 69.49.46.102
#308 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> So there's something between your computer, and your modem, which you'll need to configure to forward traffic through.
#309 [03:41] <grindcore_> and how do i go about doing that
#310 [03:42] <Eden> no dice, minecraft started to crash repedeately
#311 [03:42] <Eden> can't even play for a good 5 mins
#312 [03:42] <Eden> it said something about minidumps
#313 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> grindcore_ - Do you know the model of Modem and/or router you have?
#314 [03:42] <grindcore_> E2000
#315 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> Linksys E2000 then.
#316 [03:43] <grindcore_> yes
#317 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> And your modem?
#318 [03:43] <grindcore_> and i get my internet via sattelite..
#319 [03:44] <GreyVulpine> Oh fun, so people joining your server will get pings of no less then 500ms.
#320 [03:44] <grindcore_> and that means? :P
#321 [03:44] <GreyVulpine> It would not be an enjoyable experience for anybody joining your server.
#322 [03:45] <Eden> in other words, your server will lag a lot
#323 [03:45] <grindcore_> haha :P
#324 [03:45] <grindcore_> i used to use himachi, it worked for about 10min with no problems
#325 [03:45] <Eden> Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions of Windows
#326 [03:45] <grindcore_> than nobody was ever able to connect again
#327 [03:45] <Eden> anyone can help me with that? Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions of Windows
#328 [03:46] <Wug> Eden: thats just a crash
#329 [03:46] <Wug> dumping core is what happens when a program crashes
#330 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> grindcore_ - Could you tell me what model of modem you have?
#331 [03:46] <Wug> its probably a memory issue that you cant do anything about
#332 [03:46] <Eden> :(
#333 [03:47] <Wug> if I recall your dxdiag correctly
#334 [03:47] <Eden> oh well, here I depart....
#335 [03:47] <Eden> wait, what do you mean by that?
#336 [03:48] <Wug> I think you sent a dxdiag report earlier
#337 [03:48] <Eden> I did
#338 [03:48] <Wug> they have specs in them
#339 [03:48] <Eden> I know that
#340 [03:49] <Wug> my memory of your computer specs indicates that there is probably nothing you can do about it
#341 [03:49] <grindcore_> i dont know what model modem i have....
#342 [03:49] <Eden> :(
#343 [03:49] <Eden> here I depart
#344 [03:51] <grindcore_> well
#345 [03:51] <grindcore_> on the power cord
#346 [03:52] <grindcore_> it says Motarolla and the model number is SADB-1129
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#348 [03:53] <grindcore_> actually, i dont have anything like that...
#349 [03:54] <grindcore_> its just a box on the wall with a cord that goes to the router
#350 [03:54] <grindcore_> and one that comes fromt he sattelite and goes to it
#351 [03:56] <GreyVulpine> I don't think you're able to do any port forwarding with that...
#352 [03:57] <grindcore_> well than :P
#353 [03:57] <grindcore_> maybe i can call my isp
#354 [03:57] <grindcore_> and get it sorted out with them
#355 [03:58] <GreyVulpine> Might be best
#356 [04:01] <grindcore_> well thanks for the help, too bad we couldnt come to a solution
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#358 [04:03] <Predictability> The weekly snapshots won't install correctly for me!
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#375 [06:52] <cwarn23> Does anybody know what legit minecraft clients there are for download?
#376 [06:54] <cwarn23> Are there any others that are legit apart from notches official one?
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#384 [07:58] <minecraft_guest33524> hi
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#386 [07:58] <minecraft_guest33524> hi
#387 [07:58] <minecraft_guest33524> is anybody here
#388 [07:58] <MTG> Hi. Is it possible to get bonemeal and cocoabeans on the peacefull setting?
#389 [07:59] <MTG> I'm here :)
#390 [07:59] <minecraft_guest33524> i don't know
#391 [07:59] <minecraft_guest33524> i want to find somehelp like you
#392 [07:59] <MTG> I don't know everything about the game, you can always fire your question and see if someone answerfs
#393 [08:00] <minecraft_guest33524> ok
#394 [08:00] <minecraft_guest33524> so nobody can help us
#395 [08:00] <minecraft_guest33524> bye
#396 [08:01] <MTG> maybe someone answers in a minute or two, or five...
#397 [08:01] <MTG> Impatience is a bliss...
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#399 [08:34] <Morrolan> MTG - Cocoa beans is found in dungeon chests, and these should exist on peaceful as well. Bonemeal however, I don't think you can get that one on peaceful.
#400 [08:35] <MTG> That was what I thought. Is there a way to trap skeletons in specific areas?
#401 [08:35] <NotiCon> well you could go hunt for a skeleton spawner
#402 [08:36] <NotiCon> and then make a grinder of some sort
#403 [08:36] <Morrolan> Trap them in specific areas?
#404 [08:36] <MTG> mob spawners spawn mobs of just one kind?
#405 [08:36] <Morrolan> Yep.
#406 [08:36] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: I think I screwed my MySQL installation up
#407 [08:36] <MTG> Good to know. Thanks :)
#408 [08:37] <tyteen4a03> CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS `table1`; Error: table `table1` doesn't exist <- mfw
#409 [08:37] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Heh.
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#414 [08:59] <d3rfu5> Hi! Anyone here ?
#415 [08:59] <oldtopman> d3rfu5: Only as many as you think there are.
#416 [08:59] <oldtopman> What do you need?
#417 [08:59] <d3rfu5> I need some help with some java coding
#418 [09:00] <d3rfu5> if possible
#419 [09:00] <Morrolan> Heh, go ahead and ask, though I don't know whether we have any seasoned Java coders in here.
#420 [09:00] <Morrolan> If you don't get an answer you could try any of the Minecraft-modding channels or #coders *shrug*
#421 [09:00] <d3rfu5> Well it's more of a java app than a minecraft mod help
#422 [09:00] * oldtopman knows there is a channel-full over in #java on freenode
#422 [09:00] <d3rfu5> ok thanks
#423 [09:00] <Morrolan> Yea, #java on freenode is most likely the best solution.
#424 [09:01] <Morrolan> Atleast if it can be compared to #python on freenode.
#425 [09:01] <d3rfu5> freenode ?
#426 [09:01] <Morrolan> irc.freenode.net , a different IRC network.
#427 [09:02] <d3rfu5> alright thanks
#428 [09:02] <Morrolan> Their webchat can be found at webchat.freenode.net I believe.
#429 [09:02] <Morrolan> Or just use Mibbit or a standalone client. *shrug*
#430 [09:02] <oldtopman> Morrolan: Mibbit is banned from freendode entirely.
#431 [09:02] <Morrolan> Oh, good to know.
#432 [09:02] <oldtopman> d3rfu5: webchat.freenode.net
#433 [09:02] <d3rfu5> yeah I'm on it
#434 [09:02] <Morrolan> Only knew that Quakenet removed it.
#435 [09:03] <oldtopman> heh
#436 [09:03] <oldtopman> You should see what happens when you try to connect.
#437 [09:03] <Morrolan> Now you made me curious, brb. ^.^
#438 [09:03] <d3rfu5> :D
#439 [09:04] <d3rfu5> :/ I need to be invited to #java
#440 [09:04] <Morrolan> You might have to register your nickname.
#441 [09:04] <d3rfu5> ok
#442 [09:05] <oldtopman> d3rfu5: sorry, try ##java
#443 [09:05] <EyesIsMine> #java is a redirect
#444 [09:05] <oldtopman> channel redirects ocassionally fail over there >.>
#445 [09:05] <oldtopman> EyesIsMine: I know.
#446 [09:06] <d3rfu5> Can't either join
#447 [09:08] <Morrolan> "##Java Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services"
#448 [09:08] <Morrolan> The message is self-explanatory I believe. :)
#449 [09:08] <d3rfu5> I know I'm looking where to register and ...
#450 [09:08] <Morrolan> You'll have to register your nickname, "/msg nickserv help register" should contain some information on how to do so.
#451 [09:09] <d3rfu5> let me check that
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#455 [09:11] <d3rfu5> k got it thanks
#456 [09:13] <Morrolan> Sure thing.
#457 [09:15] <d3rfu5> So what's up ?
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#460 [09:19] <Clock_> Is it possible to transfer premium status from one account to another; or convert premium account into gift code. The reason being my current account shows my birth year.
#461 [09:21] <Morrolan> No it is not.
#462 [09:22] <Clock_> Okay, thank you.
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#464 [09:22] <MetalSonic> hi
#465 [09:22] <Morrolan> Mojang really should put up a warning "The name you sign up with will be your ingame name" :S
#466 [09:22] <Morrolan> Hey MetalSonic
#467 [09:23] <Grim_Reaper> [16:22] <@Morrolan> Mojang really should put up a warning "The name you sign up with will be your ingame name" :S
#468 [09:23] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah
#469 [09:24] <MetalSonic> I have questions about this " screenshot" feature, how do you take a screenshot and how do you view them?
#470 [09:24] <Grim_Reaper> F2
#471 [09:25] <Grim_Reaper> You can view it in appdata
#472 [09:25] <Grim_Reaper> ?? appdata
#473 [09:25] <Grim_Reaper> ?? .minecraft/win
#474 [09:25] <Grim_Reaper> ff
#475 [09:25] <Grim_Reaper> ?? win/.minecraft
#476 [09:25] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#477 [09:26] <MetalSonic> Thanks. Now for my other question, how do i create a world seed?
#478 [09:26] <Grim_Reaper> When you create a world
#479 [09:26] <Grim_Reaper> There is a button called "world options"
#480 [09:26] <Grim_Reaper> Click it, and you can enter your own seed in there
#481 [09:27] <Morrolan> Hint, "1337" is not _that_ great.
#482 [09:27] <MetalSonic> So, if i create a minecraft world with the name "Alpha" and entered into a world seed, would that world be generated?
#483 [09:28] <Morrolan> It would take whatever seed you enter and generate the world based on that one, yea.
#484 [09:28] <Morrolan> Words get converted to numbers, btw.
#485 [09:28] <Grim_Reaper> MetalSonic, a minecraft world name, isnt' a seed. In the world options when creating, there is a text area called world seed
#486 [09:28] <Grim_Reaper> Only if you enter Alpha in the seed area, will the seed be alpha
#487 [09:29] <Grim_Reaper> But yes, it will get converted to numbers
#488 [09:29] <MetalSonic> Is there some sort of guide about this translation thing?
#489 [09:29] <Grim_Reaper> ?
#490 [09:30] <Grim_Reaper> As in the words being converted to numbers?
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#492 [09:30] <MetalSonic> Yes
#493 [09:30] <Grim_Reaper> Not really
#494 [09:30] <d3rfu5> Back
#495 [09:30] <Grim_Reaper> But I wouldnt see why you would want a guide on it
#496 [09:30] <Morrolan> It's Java's hash function I believe?
#497 [09:30] <Grim_Reaper> It's normal that it converts it into numbers
#498 [09:30] <Morrolan> So if you want to know the maths behind it the Java documentation will tell.
#499 [09:30] <Grim_Reaper> If you had to convert it back to words, the word would be alpha, assuming you typed alpha in the seed
#500 [09:31] <Grim_Reaper> Think of it as binary if you know binary numbers and such
#501 [09:32] <MetalSonic> Alright. I guess it makes sense, let me try somthing, i'll be right back.
#502 [09:32] <MetalSonic> something
#503 [09:32] <Grim_Reaper> K
#504 [09:33] <d3rfu5> No one good in swing ?
#505 [09:33] <Grim_Reaper> Not me
#506 [09:34] <d3rfu5> the guys over at ##java are not realy helpful :/
#507 [09:34] <Morrolan> Not helpful as in?
#508 [09:35] <Morrolan> You might have to wait more than a minute to get an answer, mind you. ;)
#509 [09:35] <d3rfu5> swing
#510 [09:35] <d3rfu5> I know, I got an answer but not the one I expected
#511 [09:35] * Morrolan sings and swings
#511 [09:35] <d3rfu5> :D
#512 [09:35] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan kinky
#513 [09:35] <Morrolan> Oh, swing is some Java-thingy, okay.
#514 [09:35] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#515 [09:35] <Morrolan> Don't you call me kinky. :P
#516 [09:35] <d3rfu5> swing is the category to make UI
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#518 [09:36] <Morrolan> Ah, okay.
#519 [09:36] <Grim_Reaper> [16:35] <@Morrolan> Don't you call me kinky. :P
#520 [09:36] <Grim_Reaper> Says the guy who was swinging seconds ago
#521 [09:36] <Morrolan> ;)
#522 [09:36] <Grim_Reaper> :3\
#523 [09:37] <d3rfu5> these guys are more like "console apps" :/
#524 [09:37] <Morrolan> Chances are there's a channel dedicated to Swing then.
#525 [09:37] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#526 [09:37] <MetalSonic> Alright. I thing i got it. but i if i built something (like a house) will it appear in the world seed i entered?
#527 [09:37] <Morrolan> Tried ##swing or #swing on freenode?
#528 [09:37] <Grim_Reaper> You only need google for it if you cant find it on irc search
#529 [09:38] <Morrolan> MetalSonic - Nope, the world seed does not have anything to do with modifications you do.
#530 [09:38] <d3rfu5> i'll check it out
#531 [09:38] <Grim_Reaper> MetalSonic seeds generate ungenerated areas
#532 [09:38] <Grim_Reaper> So no
#533 [09:38] <Morrolan> MetalSonic - In order to give someone your world you'll have to give him the whole savefile.
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#535 [09:38] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#536 [09:38] <Grim_Reaper> It wont generate the house you made if you just get them to use the same seed
#537 [09:38] <Grim_Reaper> Only the actual world of yours would contain the house :p
#538 [09:40] <Morrolan> Yea, okay, ##swing has 6 people in it, doesn't seem to be as popular. ;D
#539 [09:40] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#540 [09:40] <d3rfu5> yeah
#541 [09:40] <Grim_Reaper> I bet it's not the kind of swing you're thinking of Morrolan >_>
#542 [09:40] <MetalSonic> Ah, alright. thanks for the help with that. Now one more question, i heard there was an HD minecraft mod, does it work well?
#543 [09:40] <d3rfu5> yeah
#544 [09:40] <Morrolan> Never used it. *shrug*
#545 [09:41] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - It's not? D:
#546 [09:41] <d3rfu5> if you have a good computer!
#547 [09:41] <Grim_Reaper> It can MetalSonic
#548 [09:41] <Grim_Reaper> All depends on which one you use etc
#549 [09:41] * Grim_Reaper gives Morrolan a cookie
#549 [09:41] * Morrolan eats the cookie
#549 [09:41] * d3rfu5 is jealous
#549 [09:42] * Grim_Reaper gives d3rfu5 a cookie made of swing
#549 [09:42] <MetalSonic> Alright, i guess i'll give it a shot. Thanks1
#550 [09:42] <Morrolan> Sorry, but as you see, no cookies for non-ops
#551 [09:42] <d3rfu5> You're an op ?
#552 [09:42] <Grim_Reaper> What D:
#553 [09:42] <Grim_Reaper> Since when
#554 [09:42] <Grim_Reaper> Then that means Im not allowed cookies ;-;
#555 [09:43] <Morrolan> Hmm, you're an exception. :)
#556 [09:43] <Grim_Reaper> <3
#557 [09:43] * d3rfu5 gives a 357 to Grim_Reaper
#557 [09:43] <d3rfu5> ha!
#558 [09:44] <Grim_Reaper> <3
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#560 [09:44] <Morrolan> G'luck eating that one.
#561 [09:44] <Grim_Reaper> It's pixely, but it'll do :D
#562 [09:44] <d3rfu5> :D
#563 [09:44] <Morrolan> Hint, eat the trigger first. :D
#564 [09:45] <Morrolan> Wait, is that the item id of a cookie?
#565 [09:45] <Morrolan> Ah, yes it is.
#566 [09:45] <blahblahblah> Everytime i try to merge my old acc on the minecraft forums i keep getting "There was an error adding the user to CurseAuth. Please contact an administrator if this error persists."
#567 [09:45] <Morrolan> Okay, thought you were referring to the colt.
#568 [09:45] <blahblahblah> Does anyone know how to fix this?
#569 [09:45] <Morrolan> blahblahblah - Try #minecraftforums
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#571 [09:46] <d3rfu5> Good job Morrolan, took a little while for you to find out :D
#572 [09:46] <Morrolan> ;)
#573 [09:46] <Grim_Reaper> For a moment I thought Morrolan was saying blahblah
#574 [09:46] <Morrolan> Haha.
#575 [09:46] <d3rfu5> You guys wanna hang out on a server ?
#576 [09:47] <Grim_Reaper> I would. But Im lagging alot so yeah
#577 [09:47] <Grim_Reaper> Would be pointless for meh ;-;
#578 [09:48] <d3rfu5> which one ?
#579 [09:48] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
#580 [09:48] <Grim_Reaper> I usually play on an AU
#581 [09:49] <d3rfu5> ?
#582 [09:49] <Grim_Reaper> Though yeah, lagging alot lately so I dont play multiplayer servers
#583 [09:49] <Grim_Reaper> For now
#584 [09:49] <d3rfu5> use optifine
#585 [09:49] <d3rfu5> Very handy in reducing lag!
#586 [09:51] <d3rfu5> Morrolan ?
#587 [09:51] <Morrolan> No time, gotta do some work.
#588 [09:52] <d3rfu5> No it was for something else
#589 [09:52] <Morrolan> Oh?
#590 [09:52] <Morrolan> Which server I play on usually?
#591 [09:53] <Grim_Reaper> [16:49] <d3rfu5> Very handy in reducing lag!
#592 [09:53] <Grim_Reaper> Not internet lag :p
#593 [09:53] <d3rfu5> Could you put in the topic/rules that I'm looking for a experienced java coder
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#595 [09:53] <d3rfu5> ?
#596 [09:53] <Morrolan> Nope.
#597 [09:53] <Grim_Reaper> Sorry it wouldn't be allowed
#598 [09:53] <Morrolan> Well, yes I could, but that wouldn't really work out well.
#599 [09:53] <d3rfu5> Grim_Reaper: Oh :X
#600 [09:53] <d3rfu5> Why ?
#601 [09:54] <Morrolan> Because a topic's purpose is to give a basic overview and information of the corresponding channel. ;)
#602 [09:54] <Morrolan> It's not a blackboard or similar.
#603 [09:54] <Morrolan> Also, gonna grab myself something to eat I think, back in a bit.
#604 [09:54] <d3rfu5> alright
#605 [09:54] * Grim_Reaper steals Morrolan's food >>
#605 [09:55] <d3rfu5> He cannot reply, he left :O
#606 [09:55] <Grim_Reaper> Exactly :D
#607 [09:56] * d3rfu5 steals the food that Grim_Reaper stole from Morrolan
#607 [09:56] <Grim_Reaper> D:
#608 [09:58] <d3rfu5> What is the off topic channel?
#609 [09:58] <Grim_Reaper> For offtopic purposes
#610 [09:59] <d3rfu5> I mean give me the #... :D
#611 [09:59] <Grim_Reaper> Oh
#612 [09:59] <Grim_Reaper> #minecraft
#613 [09:59] <d3rfu5> thanks :D
#614 [09:59] <Grim_Reaper> :p
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#616 [10:00] <gunther> someone online?
#617 [10:01] <d3rfu5> how do you change password after registering (irc)?
#618 [10:01] <d3rfu5> yes gunther
#619 [10:01] <Grim_Reaper> /ns help d3rfu5
#620 [10:01] <Grim_Reaper> gunther yes, how can I help you?
#621 [10:01] <gunther> ok
#622 [10:01] <gunther> i am banned from #bukkit
#623 [10:01] <gunther> so can one of you guys help me
#624 [10:01] <gunther> with it
#625 [10:01] <Grim_Reaper> Unfortunitly, we dont help with mods
#626 [10:02] <Grim_Reaper> And we are not a part of #bukkit
#627 [10:02] <gunther> i know
#628 [10:02] <Grim_Reaper> You would need to talk to an admin of the #bukkit channel
#629 [10:02] <d3rfu5> Let him finish!
#630 [10:02] <gunther> d3rfu5?
#631 [10:02] <d3rfu5> Why did you get ban ?
#632 [10:02] <gunther> i dont know
#633 [10:02] <gunther> i just got banned
#634 [10:02] <gunther> oh i know
#635 [10:02] <gunther> i did /list
#636 [10:03] <gunther> and than i sayed help help help
#637 [10:03] <gunther> and they banned my ip
#638 [10:03] <d3rfu5> change ip then
#639 [10:03] <Grim_Reaper> That would be ban evasion
#640 [10:03] <Grim_Reaper> Which would only get him banned again and longer most likely
#641 [10:04] <gunther> yh
#642 [10:04] <d3rfu5> did you spam to get banned ?
#643 [10:04] <Grim_Reaper> I've asked an op to pm you about the ban
#644 [10:04] <gunther> thanks
#645 [10:05] <gunther> i only said help help help
#646 [10:05] <gunther> because i did /list
#647 [10:05] <gunther> and they got angry because i sayd help 3x
#648 [10:05] <d3rfu5> where did you do /list ?
#649 [10:05] <gunther> type /list
#650 [10:05] <gunther> just on the chat
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#652 [10:05] <gunther> at #bukkit
#653 [10:06] <d3rfu5> doesn't do a thing for me
#654 [10:06] <gunther> for me it does
#655 [10:06] <gunther> it looks like spam
#656 [10:06] <gunther> and i cant stop
#657 [10:06] <d3rfu5> to /list
#658 [10:06] <d3rfu5> and do it again after
#659 [10:06] <gunther> ah it stopped
#660 [10:06] <gunther> it wont stop
#661 [10:07] <d3rfu5> Patience !
#662 [10:07] <gunther> now it will do 3 times
#663 [10:07] <d3rfu5> Grim?
#664 [10:07] <Grim_Reaper> Yup?
#665 [10:08] <gunther> it does not stop
#666 [10:08] <gunther> stop
#667 [10:08] <Grim_Reaper> Try restarting IRC
#668 [10:08] <EyesIsMine> it will eventually
#669 [10:08] <Grim_Reaper> Disconnect and reconnect
#670 [10:08] <gunther> yes
#671 [10:08] <gunther> ok
#672 [10:08] <gunther> it stopped
#673 [10:09] <gunther> ok
#674 [10:09] <gunther> voxel?
#675 [10:09] <Grim_Reaper> voxel is a bot
#676 [10:09] <gunther> i know
#677 [10:10] <gunther> still banned
#678 [10:10] <d3rfu5> Why do you need to be unbanned ?
#679 [10:10] <gunther> so i can ask questions
#680 [10:10] <gunther> for bukkit
#681 [10:10] <d3rfu5> About ?
#682 [10:11] <gunther> bukkit!
#683 [10:11] <tyteen4a03> Grim_Reaper: breakroom
#684 [10:11] <d3rfu5> No kidding!
#685 [10:11] <gunther> what no kidding?
#686 [10:12] <gunther> hello?
#687 [10:12] <gunther> en?
#688 [10:13] <gunther> what did you mean with no kidding?
#689 [10:13] <gunther> melk
#690 [10:13] <gunther> hello
#691 [10:13] <gunther> bye bye
#692 [10:14] <d3rfu5> Grim?
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#695 [10:17] <gunther> i am kicked
#696 [10:17] <gunther> muted
#697 [10:17] <gunther> am i muted?
#698 [10:17] <Boreeas> gunther: Not in this cchannel
#699 [10:17] <gunther> ok
#700 [10:17] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: breakroom please
#701 [10:18] <d3rfu5> Anyone good in java ?
#702 [10:18] <gunther> a bit
#703 [10:18] <EyesIsMine> a bit
#704 [10:18] <d3rfu5> especially swing
#705 [10:19] <Boreeas> d3rfu5: A little bit, but I mostly use GUI Builders
#706 [10:19] <d3rfu5> How do you update the JList's model after scanning a data file puting the lines into a string ?
#707 [10:20] <Boreeas> Yeah, uhm :P
#708 [10:20] <d3rfu5> :D
#709 [10:20] <gunther> Does someone know an op of #bukkit?
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#711 [10:21] <d3rfu5> The main problem is updating the JList model since I got the buffer reader puting the data into strings
#712 [10:22] <Boreeas> Hmm
#713 [10:22] <EyesIsMine> use c#
#714 [10:22] <d3rfu5> Tried and it's argh
#715 [10:22] <Boreeas> Bleh, C#
#716 [10:22] <EyesIsMine> c# == java but different
#717 [10:22] <Boreeas> d3rfu5: Try asking in freenode/##java
#718 [10:22] <d3rfu5> These people hate swing!
#719 [10:23] <d3rfu5> And they are ot very helpfull
#720 [10:23] <d3rfu5> helpful*
#721 [10:23] <Boreeas> Well, they usually help me <.<
#722 [10:23] <d3rfu5> Weird
#723 [10:24] <d3rfu5> Are yu over there ?
#724 [10:25] <Boreeas> Not right now
#725 [10:25] <Morrolan> gunther - Don't they have an "appeal your ban" section on their forum?
#726 [10:26] <gunther> in freenode is there a bukkit chat?
#727 [10:26] <EyesIsMine> no
#728 [10:26] <Morrolan> Doubt it.
#729 [10:26] <gunther> where is a good bukkit chat?
#730 [10:27] <EyesIsMine> #bukkit
#731 [10:27] <gunther> i am banned there
#732 [10:27] <d3rfu5> :3
#733 [10:27] <Morrolan> Then appeal your ban I'd say.
#734 [10:27] <NotiCon> good job about being banned there
#735 [10:27] <gunther> :P
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#737 [10:32] <gunther> does someone know an op there?
#738 [10:32] <gunther> is someone good in bukkit here maybe?
#739 [10:33] <gunther> someone?
#740 [10:34] <gunther> ?????
#741 [10:34] <gunther> ?????
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#743 [10:35] <Morrolan> Heh, there goes my "patience is a virtue"
#744 [10:37] <d3rfu5> :D
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#746 [10:38] <gunther> hello
#747 [10:38] <Morrolan> Why, hello gunther.
#748 [10:39] <gunther> hello
#749 [10:39] <gunther> i am kicked at #bukkit
#750 [10:39] <Morrolan> *sigh*
#751 [10:39] <Morrolan> There is still nothing we can do about that.
#752 [10:39] <gunther> :p
#753 [10:39] <gunther> ok
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#755 [10:39] <gunther> but where can i ask for bukkit help else?
#756 [10:40] <Morrolan> If you can't be arsed to try and appeal your ban then I suggest you try your luck on the bukkit forum.
#757 [10:40] <d3rfu5> On the forums
#758 [10:40] <d3rfu5> (the bukkit ones)
#759 [10:41] <d3rfu5> This is annoying :/
#760 [10:41] <gunther> yh
#761 [10:41] <gunther> ok
#762 [10:42] <gunther> does someone have teamviewer?
#763 [10:42] <gunther> does someone have teamviewer?
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#765 [10:44] <d3rfu5> :D
#766 [10:45] <Morrolan> Yea, okay, I hope he doesn't do this again.
#767 [10:50] <d3rfu5> ^^
#768 [10:50] <d3rfu5> I think I found out!
#769 [10:52] <d3rfu5> Oh wait... no
#770 [10:59] * Morrolan scratches head
#770 [11:00] <Morrolan> Having supper that early, Grim_Reaper?
#771 [11:00] * Grim_Reaper takes a carrot and tickles Morrolan's toe with it..
#771 [11:00] <Morrolan> Hah, who's kinky now!
#772 [11:00] <Grim_Reaper> I had supper at around 5:15 pm. Not too late
#773 [11:00] <Grim_Reaper> Early*
#774 [11:00] <Grim_Reaper> Usually we have later. But anyways
#775 [11:00] <Morrolan> Heh, okay.
#776 [11:01] <Grim_Reaper> Also Im always kinky >.>
#777 [11:01] <Morrolan> Oh, okay then. \o/
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#779 [11:01] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#780 [11:04] <d3rfu5> Here's a question about general java
#781 [11:05] <d3rfu5> Having a buffer reader in a class file (different than the main one) How can I trigger it in the main class?
#782 [11:05] <Morrolan> class.buffer.read() ?
#783 [11:06] <d3rfu5> Is this real or shit ? :D
#784 [11:06] <Morrolan> Uh, well, I'm not too sure what you mean.
#785 [11:06] <Morrolan> If you have a custom class which has a buffer reader as one of its members, then create an instance of this class and use the buffer reader as usual?
#786 [11:06] <d3rfu5> well, in a class file I have a bufferreader that allows me to see what is in a .txt file and put it into a string
#787 [11:07] <d3rfu5> how can I start the buffer reader ?
#788 [11:07] <Morrolan> Assuming the buffer reader is not shared (or whatever the keyword in Java is) then create an instance of the class. Then you _could_ access it directly if it's not a private member.
#789 [11:08] <Morrolan> However that's a bit against the OOP spirit, so better create a method inside your custom class which uses the reader and access that one afterwards.
#790 [11:08] <d3rfu5> how to do the "access"
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#793 [11:11] <d3rfu5> Morrolan ?
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#796 [11:12] <Morrolan> Uh, first create an object out of this class.
#797 [11:12] <d3rfu5> see PM
#798 [11:12] <Morrolan> Yea, I'm no Java guy so showing me the code won't do much.
#799 [11:12] <d3rfu5> ok
#800 [11:12] <d3rfu5> When you mean object ?
#801 [11:12] <Morrolan> Have you worked with classes before?
#802 [11:13] <NotiCon> object of the class you made
#803 [11:13] <d3rfu5> To few
#804 [11:13] <NotiCon> you have a class which is named what?
#805 [11:13] <Morrolan> A class is basically like a blueprint, aye? Now if you do something like JohnDoe = new MyAwesomeClass (pseudocode) you'll create an instance of this class.
#806 [11:14] <NotiCon> gotta love pseudo
#807 [11:14] <d3rfu5> Well their is the main one and JListModel
#808 [11:14] <Morrolan> Then you can access the classmembers using JohnDoe.Bufferreader, JohnDoe.readable etc etc.
#809 [11:14] <NotiCon> d3rfu5: some more info about classes http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/concepts/class.html
#810 [11:15] <Morrolan> http://pastebin.com/CkEAeyBE <- like this, basically. Once again, this is not valid code in any language I know of.
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#812 [11:16] <Morrolan> Wait, mistake in there.
#813 [11:16] <Morrolan> Wait, mistake in there.
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#815 [11:16] <NotiCon> silly Morrolan :( making mistakes in pseudo code
#816 [11:16] <d3rfu5> Other thing, I get this error: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException at MainFrame.main(MainFrame.java:314)
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#818 [11:16] <c648> hello every1
#819 [11:16] <Morrolan> NotiCon - Haha, it's more of a design error. ^^
#820 [11:16] <Morrolan> hey c648
#821 [11:16] <NotiCon> oh
#822 [11:17] <c648> #bukkit
#823 [11:17] <Morrolan> Uh, try "/join #channel", c648, it's more polite. :)
#824 [11:17] <d3rfu5> for this code: DefaultListModel model = (DefaultListModel) list.getModel();
#825 [11:17] <c648> i did
#826 [11:17] <c648> and it will not do anything
#827 [11:18] <Morrolan> Check the channelist, it will have opened there somewhere.
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#829 [11:18] <d3rfu5> Noticon?
#830 [11:18] <Morrolan> d3rfu5 - If I would have to take a guess then I'd go for you having forgotten to crete an object out of this class.
#831 [11:19] <NotiCon> d3rfu5: do you have a pastebin of your code that i can take a look at? i dont get much out of just that line
#832 [11:20] <d3rfu5> Here you go http://pastebin.com/w3yunefX
#833 [11:22] <NotiCon> d3rfu5: list havent been initialized
#834 [11:22] <d3rfu5> yes
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#836 [11:22] <d3rfu5> way before
#837 [11:22] <NotiCon> oh
#838 [11:22] <sprocket> does someone know how to change a ip adress
#839 [11:22] <d3rfu5> yes
#840 [11:22] <NotiCon> sprocket: your isp
#841 [11:22] <sprocket> how?
#842 [11:22] <d3rfu5> just unplug your router
#843 [11:22] <sprocket> ok
#844 [11:22] <Morrolan> d3rfu5 - Only if he has a dynamic IP.
#845 [11:22] <d3rfu5> or else restart internet connection from your router
#846 [11:23] <d3rfu5> if not you cannot change ip
#847 [11:23] <d3rfu5> then use a proxy
#848 [11:23] <Morrolan> Say, sprocket, why do you even want to change your IP?
#849 [11:23] <d3rfu5> Noticon, do you want the full code ?
#850 [11:23] <Morrolan> You don't happen to try and evade some ban I assume?
#851 [11:24] <NotiCon> it would be easier if i could look at the code thats relevant to that code in that paste
#852 [11:24] <d3rfu5> ?
#853 [11:24] <sprocket> yeah
#854 [11:25] <sprocket> someone said
#855 [11:25] <NotiCon> eg. all the variables in the code and their type
#856 [11:25] <sprocket> i must do it
#857 [11:25] <sprocket> d3rfu5
#858 [11:25] <sprocket> said
#859 [11:25] <d3rfu5> ok hold on
#860 [11:25] <d3rfu5> yes ?
#861 [11:25] <NotiCon> Morrolan: its that guy that wanted to join bukkit sometime ago but couldnt cause he was banned
#862 [11:25] <sprocket> yes
#863 [11:25] <Morrolan> NotiCon - Oh, thanks for the info.
#864 [11:26] <sprocket> but d3rfu5 said i must change my ip!
#865 [11:26] <Morrolan> The one thing you have to do is appeal your ban.
#866 [11:26] <sprocket> and i am quite a noob so i try
#867 [11:26] <Morrolan> Ban evading might result in a network ban, so it's a really bad idea.
#868 [11:26] <sprocket> appeal by who
#869 [11:26] <sprocket> ok thanks morrolan
#870 [11:27] <sprocket> appeal at who
#871 [11:27] <Morrolan> Well, they might have a forum secction to appeal bans.
#872 [11:27] <Morrolan> If not then politely ask the op who banned you.
#873 [11:27] <sprocket> yh
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#875 [11:28] <sprocket> thanks morrolan
#876 [11:28] <d3rfu5> @NotiCon see PM
#877 [11:28] <sprocket> there is no forum
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#879 [11:29] <sprocket> and i dont know who banned me
#880 [11:29] <sprocket> it was a long time ago
#881 [11:29] <Morrolan> bukkit.org is where the forum resides.
#882 [11:29] <sprocket> oh
#883 [11:29] <Morrolan> As for your ban, that one's placed by EvilSeph
#884 [11:30] <NotiCon> d3rfu5: looking at it now
#885 [11:31] <d3rfu5> ok
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#888 [11:38] <NotiCon> d3rfu5: what is line 314 in your mainframe file?
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#890 [11:40] <d3rfu5> hold on
#891 [11:40] <d3rfu5> this : DefaultListModel model = (DefaultListModel) list.getModel();
#892 [11:41] <NotiCon> ic
#893 [11:45] <NotiCon> d3rfu5: it seems that there is possible no data in the list for you to get with that getModel function you use
#894 [11:46] <d3rfu5> Oh yeah!
#895 [11:46] <d3rfu5> What should I replace it with ?
#896 [11:48] <NotiCon> well i would suggest figuring out how JList works and how you drag data out of it as well as insert it into it
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#898 [11:50] <sliq> hey guys, i got a huge problem with minecraft. everytime i start minecraft and i get to the main menu, my ping will raise unbelievable high until my whole internet timeout
#899 [11:50] <sliq> any help or idea?
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#901 [12:11] <Morrolan> sliq - This, uh, is strange.
#902 [12:11] <Morrolan> Minecraft should not interfere with your internet connection at all as long as it's just in the main menu.
#903 [12:11] <Morrolan> Try to disable any security software you can get your hand on.
#904 [12:14] <sliq> i will try it
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#906 [12:25] <sliq> it doesnt solved the problem but its better
#907 [12:27] <Wug> it might just be that you have a slower computer
#908 [12:27] <langkid1> ^
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#910 [12:27] <Wug> you could check if you have any updates available for your network drivers
#911 [12:27] <langkid1> ^^
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#915 [12:45] <sliq> well, its only in minecraft not any other games
#916 [12:46] <Wug> even if it is, there is no sense in using an outdated driver
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#918 [12:55] <sabesto> hello, anyone know of a tutorial off hand that can help me build a minecart intersection with 3 tracks?
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#920 [12:56] <sabesto> minecart comes in from either direction, stops and lets you select where to go
#921 [12:57] <Wug> off hand, no. but you could probably find one on youtube
#922 [12:59] <sabesto> may have found one
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#930 [13:49] <corinanth> anyone here really good with bukkit commands
#931 [13:49] <NotiCon> try #bukkit
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#937 [14:18] <Kryzz> hello, i have a problem with a specific chunk in my server beeing very laggy and beeing there puts a huge load on the server CPU
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#939 [14:19] <Wug> you could delete it with mcedit
#940 [14:19] <Kryzz> i could, but i really dont want to
#941 [14:19] <guerra999> I've bought Minecraft with PostePay but I'm not premium. What I have to do?
#942 [14:19] <Wug> Kryzz: if you havent built anything on it just delete it and it will regenerate
#943 [14:19] <Kryzz> becouse i've built a very nice cavespider-xp-farm there
#944 [14:20] <Wug> oh lol theres the problem
#945 [14:20] <Kryzz> and i think it has something to do with my problem,,
#946 [14:20] <Kryzz> right
#947 [14:20] <Wug> it probably has a zillion cave spiders on it
#948 [14:20] <Kryzz> well
#949 [14:20] <Wug> if you can find a way to kill them all
#950 [14:20] <Kryzz> i have been afk in the nether to make them despawn
#951 [14:20] <guerra999> Mojang taked E20 from my PostePay, I want the premium
#952 [14:20] <Kryzz> i have also restarted the server
#953 [14:21] <Wug> guerra999: what website did you get minecraft from
#954 [14:21] <Kryzz> and there are no spiders there now
#955 [14:21] <guerra999> www.minecraft.net
#956 [14:21] <Wug> guerra999: it sometimes takes a while, try waiting a few days
#957 [14:21] <guerra999> I losed E20 from my PostePay and I'm not premium
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#959 [14:22] <Wug> Kryzz: open the map in mcedit, select the chunk, and remove the entities
#960 [14:22] <Kryzz> entities beeing mobs and such ?
#961 [14:22] <Kryzz> entities beeing mobs and such ?
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#963 [14:22] <Wug> yeah
#964 [14:22] <Morrolan> And chests I believe?
#965 [14:22] <Kryzz> but not blocks ?
#966 [14:22] <Wug> it does remove the contents of chests
#967 [14:22] <Wug> blocks are left
#968 [14:22] <Kryzz> ah, good to know
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#970 [14:23] <Wug> it might break the spawner though
#971 [14:23] <Kryzz> torches? redstone stuff?
#972 [14:23] <Wug> you can fix that though with some twiddling
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#974 [14:23] <PetisAMeatis> so am I the 1000000 person to ask why they wont accept my purchase via card or paypal?
#975 [14:23] <PetisAMeatis> so am I the 1000000 person to ask why they wont accept my purchase via card or paypal?
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#977 [14:23] <Kryzz> have you heard of this problem before or are you just giving general probbleshooting ?:P
#978 [14:23] <Wug> PetisAMeatis: yes
#979 [14:24] <Wug> congratulations, have this millionth asker award
#980 [14:24] <Kryzz> troubble*
#981 [14:24] <Wug> :payment/stopped > PetisAMeatis
#982 [14:24] <WugBot> PetisAMeatis: (payment/stopped) Banks, credit card companies, etc. frequently stop minecraft purchases for your protection because they are international transactions. You may have to call your financial institution and ask that they approve the transfer.
#983 [14:24] <WugBot> PetisAMeatis: (payment/stopped) If you're not sure what to say, tell them: "I would like to make an international purchase and payment is being declined. How would I go about approving the purchase?"
#984 [14:24] <PetisAMeatis> sadface, guess ill have to be more patient lol
#985 [14:24] <Wug> this is one of those questions we have an answer for
#986 [14:24] <PetisAMeatis> urchse was rejected with paypal cash too, so not a bank issue
#987 [14:24] <Wug> Kryzz: I've seen it a lot
#988 [14:24] <Kryzz> ok
#989 [14:25] <Kryzz> how will it mess upp the trap?
#990 [14:25] <Wug> PetisAMeatis: if paypal rejected it, idk.
#991 [14:25] <Wug> you could try calling anyway
#992 [14:25] <PetisAMeatis> shrug, just wanted to play the game with my nephew, my brother in law tried to send me a gift license but it rejected him too
#993 [14:26] <PetisAMeatis> never had such a hard time giving someone my money lol
#994 [14:26] <PetisAMeatis> ill give it a try tomorrow during biz hours thanks for your info
#995 [14:27] <Wug> PetisAMeatis: :/
#996 [14:27] <Wug> np
#997 [14:27] <Wug> np
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#999 [14:30] <Kryzz> Wug: you know if it will mess up the redstone or blocks?
#1000 [14:30] <Wug> does not affect blocks
#1001 [14:30] <Kryzz> ok
#1002 [14:30] <Kryzz> thanx, i'll try that them
#1003 [14:30] <Kryzz> then
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#1005 [14:31] <Kryzz> anything other then content of chests i should "backup" ?
#1006 [14:31] <Wug> generally when using mcedit its a good idea to backup the whole world
#1007 [14:31] <Kryzz> i will
#1008 [14:31] <Kryzz> but ingame
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#1010 [14:31] <Wug> if you have a world backup you wont need an ingame one
#1011 [14:32] <Kryzz> but my removing entities will delete my chests contents, i meant carry the stuff i wanna keep when i said "backup"
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#1013 [14:38] <Kryzz> Wug: can i use mcedit to move the chests before i remove entities ?
#1014 [14:39] <Kryzz> so that they dont empty
#1015 [14:39] <Wug> you could
#1016 [14:39] <Kryzz> thats nice, i'll do that then
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#1018 [14:58] <Kryzz> Wug: would you mind helping me a bit with mcedit? its my first time in the program
#1019 [14:58] <Wug> the interface is sort of like minecrafts, you can pick tools with the number keys
#1020 [14:59] <Wug> selection tool is 1 I think
#1021 [14:59] <Kryzz> ok, is the red cubes i see mobs ?
#1022 [14:59] <Wug> probably
#1023 [14:59] <Kryzz> i've found the trap
#1024 [14:59] <Wug> select part of it, any size
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#1026 [15:00] <Wug> hit 9 for chunk stuff and pick select chunk, then remove entities
#1027 [15:00] <Wug> I'm going from memory here, its been a while since ive used mcedit
#1028 [15:00] <Wug> the controls might not be quite what I say
#1029 [15:00] <Kryzz> ok,
#1030 [15:00] <Wug> but you need to select the whole chunk and use remove entities
#1031 [15:01] <Kryzz> where is the remove entities function ?
#1032 [15:01] <Wug> hit 9 for chunk tools
#1033 [15:01] <Wug> it should be one of the options in the box in the lower left
#1034 [15:01] <Kryzz> i have "create, delete, prune,r elight and extract"
#1035 [15:02] <Wug> is there a "delete entities"
#1036 [15:02] <Kryzz> no
#1037 [15:02] <Wug> are you using the latest version
#1038 [15:02] <Wug> it looks like it might have moved to the select tool
#1039 [15:03] <Kryzz> i think so, i found it here http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/download.html
#1040 [15:03] <Wug> select tool is 1
#1041 [15:03] <Kryzz> ah, there it is
#1042 [15:03] <Kryzz> so i dont have to remove entities for the entire chunk, nice
#1043 [15:03] <Kryzz> and the spiders should be the problem ?
#1044 [15:04] <Kryzz> even if i cant see them ingame..
#1045 [15:04] <Wug> I think so. save it and start it to see if it gets better
#1046 [15:04] <Wug> if it doesnt it might take a bit more work
#1047 [15:05] <Kryzz> ye
#1048 [15:05] <Wug> in future, stick a lava block in the end of the trap when you're not using it so spiders and drops dont build up
#1049 [15:06] <Kryzz> ah, good idea
#1050 [15:06] <Kryzz> but they dont spawn if i'm not close enough
#1051 [15:07] <Wug> if you dont want this to happen again I suggest you find a way to prevent them from building up
#1052 [15:08] <Kryzz> i will, i will also not afk there for 1,5hours to collect xp ;)
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#1056 [15:24] <Kryzz> Wug: it seemed to have worked, thanx for the help! =)
#1057 [15:24] <Wug> np
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#1065 [16:22] <bejoe905> does anyone know how to fix terribad framerate?
#1066 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Turn down detail/video options in minecraft, close down unnecessary programs, update video card
#1067 [16:24] <bejoe905> i havent had a problem with it before, i have nothing running in the background, im able to run it with fancy gfx no problem, and my vid card isn't malfunctioning or anything
#1068 [16:24] <bejoe905> its basically a brand-new laptop
#1069 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Windows?
#1070 [16:24] <bejoe905> yeah
#1071 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Give us a dxdiag?
#1072 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> ??> bejoe905 win/dxdiag
#1073 [16:24] <VoxelHead> bejoe905: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1074 [16:24] <VoxelHead> bejoe905: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1075 [16:24] <Calinou> have a real graphics card, solution #0
#1076 [16:24] <Calinou> (I'm sorry but integrated graphics card are not made for 3D games like MC.)
#1077 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> There are those laptops that have dedicated video cards.
#1078 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> Many newer laptops nowadays come with a low powered integrated intel one, and a discrete high-powered video card.
#1079 [16:25] <Calinou> laptops with "real" graphic cards are usually much bigger, never netbooks
#1080 [16:25] <bejoe905> i have an HP dv7
#1081 [16:25] <Boreeas> My laptop has an NVidia Geforce thingy I think
#1082 [16:26] <bejoe905> amd all the way
#1083 [16:26] * Boreeas is bad with graphic cards
#1083 [16:26] <Calinou> bejoe905: graphics card? the "dxdiag" thing should tell you
#1084 [16:26] <Calinou> also, I prefer nvidia :P and tends to work better with minecraft
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#1086 [16:26] <Calinou> doesn't have buggy clouds in fancy
#1087 [16:26] <bejoe905> its a ATI Radeon 5000 series, i believe
#1088 [16:26] <bejoe905> hang on, lemme pastebin the dxdiag
#1089 [16:27] <bejoe905> http://pastebin.com/cuetgV5N
#1090 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Out of curiousity, what version of java do you have installed?
#1091 [16:28] <bejoe905> i think 6, not sure
#1092 [16:28] <bejoe905> lemme check
#1093 [16:28] <bejoe905> yeah, 6
#1094 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> 7's not installed, correct?
#1095 [16:29] <bejoe905> nope
#1096 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. there's no physical reason why Minecraft should be running poorly on that machine.
#1097 [16:30] <bejoe905> possible server issue?
#1098 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Server issue?
#1099 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Are you playing on a server when this occurs?
#1100 [16:30] <bejoe905> yeah
#1101 [16:30] <bejoe905> smp plays fine
#1102 [16:30] <bejoe905> ssp*
#1103 [16:30] <Wug> is it all servers or just one
#1104 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Then perhaps. Try a different server?
#1105 [16:31] <bejoe905> afaik, its just the one, buy ill check others
#1106 [16:31] <bejoe905> yeah, its just that one
#1107 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Then there's something about that server. Don't believe there's anything you can do about it.
#1108 [16:32] <bejoe905> alright, ty
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#1116 [16:42] <Cole36912> !check 76.170.138.191
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#1120 [17:07] <AshtonK> Hey guys, I keep trying to add my server to http://minecraftservers.org/addserver and it keeps saying my server is offline or isnt valid..
#1121 [17:08] <AshtonK> I know its online & valid because me and friends are playing on it right now
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#1123 [17:11] <AshtonK> Hey guys, I keep trying to add my server to http://minecraftservers.org/addserver and it keeps saying my server is offline or isnt valid..
#1124 [17:12] <NotiCon> it could be that the site cant reach your server
#1125 [17:12] <Boreeas> AshtonK: IP?
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#1127 [17:12] <AshtonK> projectcommunity.hopto.org
#1128 [17:12] <AshtonK> Me and friends are playing on it right now..?
#1129 [17:12] <AshtonK> Well we were..
#1130 [17:13] <NotiCon> !check http://projectcommunity.hopto.org/
#1131 [17:13] <NotiCon> :(
#1132 [17:13] <NotiCon> now that one was a bit silly
#1133 [17:13] <NotiCon> !check projectcommunity.hopto.org
#1134 [17:13] <AshtonK> -.-
#1135 [17:13] <NotiCon> oh well
#1136 [17:14] <AshtonK> So what should I do?
#1137 [17:15] <NotiCon> be sure its running, be sure the port is forwarded and stuff
#1138 [17:16] <AshtonK> Its all good, friends and I are playing on it.. Its port forwarded and everything..
#1139 [17:16] <AshtonK> I dont see where the problem is
#1140 [17:16] <NotiCon> you said were a bit ago?
#1141 [17:16] <AshtonK> Yeah like 5 mins ago
#1142 [17:16] <AshtonK> LOL
#1143 [17:17] <NotiCon> but are you still ?
#1144 [17:17] <AshtonK> I am, they arnt
#1145 [17:17] <AshtonK> Iv been trying for an hour to make this work
#1146 [17:17] <AshtonK> We were playing during it and everything, and I finally decided to ask for help
#1147 [17:18] <NotiCon> try and lookup the dns info for that projectcommunity.hopto.org from your computer and see if it reaches the same ip as AuBot did
#1148 [17:19] <AshtonK> It traces back to my IP.
#1149 [17:19] <AshtonK> So thats all correct
#1150 [17:19] <NotiCon> and that one is the same one as AuBot typed?
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#1152 [17:19] <AshtonK> <AuBot> Sorry NotiCon, but things look grim for 70.76.36.14:25565, are you sure you typed it right?
#1153 [17:19] <AshtonK> ^^ That is correct.
#1154 [17:20] <NotiCon> then i dont know
#1155 [17:20] <AshtonK> Could you do me a favor and try login to the server, see if it lets you on
#1156 [17:20] <AshtonK> ?
#1157 [17:21] <NotiCon> not able to atm
#1158 [17:21] <AshtonK> :(
#1159 [17:22] <NotiCon> AshtonK: did you try with the ip instead of the host?
#1160 [17:23] <AshtonK> I will try.
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#1162 [17:32] <AshtonK> The IP did not work..
#1163 [17:32] <Cole36912_> !check 76.170.138.191
#1164 [17:34] <NotiCon> they arent by any chance on the same network as you are?
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#1167 [17:40] <AshtonK> Lol nope.
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#1172 [17:51] <Cole36912_> !check 76.170.138.191
#1173 [17:54] <Cole36912_> !check 76.170.138.191
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#1175 [17:58] <AshtonK> !check projectcommunity.hopto.org
#1176 [18:00] <AshtonK> I dont know what to do.. Can anybody help?
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#1178 [18:00] <Boreeas> |Kiichan|Schala|: Shala?
#1179 [18:00] <Boreeas> |Kiichan|Schala|: Shala?
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#1185 [18:08] <jeremy> im having issuses with my minecraft .jar, there are no folders inside of it it just has class files, ive forced updates, deleted the bin folder and ive delted the whole .minecraft folder there seems to be no way to get all these folders back and this is stopping me from being able to install any mods
#1186 [18:09] <clarjon1> ??> jeremy mods
#1187 [18:09] <VoxelHead> jeremy: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#1188 [18:09] <VoxelHead> jeremy: (mods) as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1189 [18:09] <clarjon1> btw
#1190 [18:09] <clarjon1> just pull up the launcher
#1191 [18:09] <clarjon1> click options
#1192 [18:09] <clarjon1> click force update
#1193 [18:09] <clarjon1> then log in
#1194 [18:09] <clarjon1> also, make sure you remember to exit your archive programs.
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#1196 [18:10] <jeremy> ive done it, it doesnt help the folders still arent there
#1197 [18:10] <jeremy> c:\users\jeremy\desktop>java -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -jar minecraft.jar unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar
#1198 [18:11] <jeremy> i get that error i think that means i have a corrupt.jar but nothing i do seems to be able to fix it
#1199 [18:11] <mickster04> jeremy: just donload the installer again
#1200 [18:11] <supssupbladeron> jeremy what is going on?
#1201 [18:11] <zkxs> it means that your filename/path is wrong
#1202 [18:11] <mickster04> jeremy: and delete all traces of the game, restart your PC then re-install the game
#1203 [18:12] <supssupbladeron> What!
#1204 [18:12] <supssupbladeron> The!
#1205 [18:12] <supssupbladeron> FUCK!
#1206 [18:12] * AuBot kicked supssupbladeron from #minecrafthelp (Reason: upssupbladeron :Please keep it civil.)
#1207 [18:12] <Jaw> lol
#1208 [18:12] <zkxs> :P
#1209 [18:12] <mickster04> lawl
#1210 [18:12] <Wug> whoa
#1211 [18:13] <Wug> tiny brain overload
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#1213 [18:13] <Wug> does anyone smell burning wires
#1214 [18:13] <supssupbladeron> sorry
#1215 [18:13] <mickster04> ha ha hja
#1216 [18:13] <jeremy> i am gonna try that now thanks guys
#1217 [18:13] <zkxs> I have grown used to the smell... I suck at soldering :P
#1218 [18:13] <Wug> supssupbladeron: keep your head screwed on ok
#1219 [18:13] <supssupbladeron> Wug: ok
#1220 [18:13] <Wug> having trouble
#1221 [18:14] <supssupbladeron> yeah i am having trouble
#1222 [18:14] <supssupbladeron> lets see here i am having trouble with a lot of things
#1223 [18:14] <supssupbladeron> like trying to install the Zepplin mod for minecraft
#1224 [18:15] <supssupbladeron> and trying to install skyblock
#1225 [18:15] <Wug> some mods arent compatible
#1226 [18:15] <supssupbladeron> and installing the Aether portal mod
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#1228 [18:15] <Wug> that one in particular conflicts with a lot
#1229 [18:15] <supssupbladeron> ooh
#1230 [18:15] <supssupbladeron> my gosh
#1231 [18:15] <Wug> make sure you're installing the right versions
#1232 [18:16] <supssupbladeron> i think i am missing minecraft.jar
#1233 [18:16] <AshtonK> The game is so much better without mods :(
#1234 [18:16] <Wug> mods for older versions of minecraft wont work with the new one
#1235 [18:16] <Boreeas> ^
#1236 [18:16] <Wug> I prefer subtle mods
#1237 [18:16] <supssupbladeron> i am missing minecraft.jar from my computer i have never got that
#1238 [18:16] <Wug> supssupbladeron: force update
#1239 [18:17] <AshtonK> Are you running W7?
#1240 [18:17] <supssupbladeron> Wug: force update huh?
#1241 [18:17] <supssupbladeron> yes i have windows 7
#1242 [18:17] <Wug> :fu
#1243 [18:17] <WugBot> fu: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1244 [18:17] <WugBot> fu: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1245 [18:18] <supssupbladeron> okay let me try
#1246 [18:18] <AshtonK> Go to start, type %appdata% , go into .minecraft, backup your saves and delete all Minecraft cache, then reinstall minecraft and load your mods.
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#1248 [18:19] <supssupbladeron> i made a world just for testing mods and i have set up an airship for when i get the Zepplin mod working
#1249 [18:19] <supssupbladeron> i really want that Zepplin mod cause then i can fly to places
#1250 [18:20] <AshtonK> Or just get SPC and type /fly
#1251 [18:20] <AshtonK> LOL
#1252 [18:21] <supssupbladeron> SPC? the Zepplin mod makes it so i can fly my builds to places
#1253 [18:21] * Boreeas made a fly mod, once, too
#1253 [18:21] * Boreeas released it too late, two days after the zeppelin mod
#1253 [18:21] <supssupbladeron> does the fly mod make it so you can fly builds to places
#1254 [18:22] <supssupbladeron> most likely not that is why i want the Zepplin mod
#1255 [18:22] <Boreeas> Yeah, but it's terribly outdated by now
#1256 [18:22] <Boreeas> supssupbladeron: It actually did
#1257 [18:23] <supssupbladeron> Borres: so your fly mod was able to make builds fly
#1258 [18:23] <supssupbladeron> Borreas: so your fly mod was able to make builds fly
#1259 [18:23] <Boreeas> Exactly
#1260 [18:23] <supssupbladeron> oh ok
#1261 [18:24] <supssupbladeron> well still i want the zepplin mod cause i have already got it downloaded i just need to put it in the right file
#1262 [18:24] <Boreeas> You couldn't use mine, anyways
#1263 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Did you install modloader yet supssupbladeron
#1264 [18:24] <Boreeas> Since it wasn't needed, I abandonded it after 1.7
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#1266 [18:41] <supssupbladeron> Wug guess what?
#1267 [18:41] <Wug> what?
#1268 [18:42] <Boreeas> >Nothing
#1269 [18:42] <supssupbladeron> afetr i had told minecraft to force update i lost my internet connection
#1270 [18:42] <Wug> did it actually work? can you play minecraft
#1271 [18:43] <supssupbladeron> i have always been able to play minecraft the question right now is if the Zepplin mod will work now
#1272 [18:46] <Wug> you wouldnt be able to play without minecraft.jart
#1273 [18:47] <supssupbladeron> well i just learned the hard way of figuring out if the mod works cause i lost stuff crafting the airship controller that you can craft when the mod works
#1274 [18:47] <supssupbladeron> which sucks
#1275 [18:47] <Wug> it must be partially installed or broken somehow, you will need to make force updating actually work
#1276 [18:47] <Wug> otherwise you probably wont get it working properly
#1277 [18:49] <supssupbladeron> wait F*** i just remebered i dont even have minecraft.jar on my computer
#1278 [18:49] <supssupbladeron> which f***ing sucks even worse
#1279 [18:49] <supssupbladeron> :(
#1280 [18:49] <supssupbladeron> i am sad now
#1281 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Does minecraft work, right now?
#1282 [18:50] <supssupbladeron> yeah minecraft works right now i am on it at the same time i am on here so yeah minecraft does work right now
#1283 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Then you have minecraft.jar, what operating system are you on?
#1284 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Windows? MacOS? Linux?
#1285 [18:51] <supssupbladeron> Windows 7
#1286 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#1287 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder. Go inside. Find the Bin folder. You'll see a minecraft.jar file there
#1288 [18:52] <supssupbladeron> i have searched all my files i dont have anything called minecraft.jar i guess it didnt get installed with the downloaded version of minecraft
#1289 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Hold on.
#1290 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Are you at the bin folder right now?
#1291 [18:52] <supssupbladeron> let me look in the bin folder
#1292 [18:54] <supssupbladeron> i just looked in the bin folder the only other folder there is called natives
#1293 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> What files are in bin?
#1294 [18:55] <supssupbladeron> some things are just installed with the internet but i will still tell you what is in there
#1295 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> If Minecraft is working, then you have minecraft.jar.
#1296 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft.jar will be in the bin folder.
#1297 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> Windows, if you haven't configured it, will drop the file extension from files by default. You may just see it as "minecraft"
#1298 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> I can tell you how to enable file extensions, if you wish.
#1299 [18:57] <supssupbladeron> the natives folder. jinput is installed with the internet. lwjgl is also internet installed. same with lwjgl_util, md5s, minecraft, and vesion are all installed with the internet
#1300 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Right. Follow my instructions. In the bin folder. press your Alt button. Look at the top of your screen for the toolbar, press Tools -> Folder Options.
#1301 [18:58] <supssupbladeron> 1 second
#1302 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Then look for the View tab. Go there, then press, "Hide file extensions for known file types"
#1303 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Make sure that option is unchecked, then look at the bin folder again. You should see "minecraft.jar" now
#1304 [18:58] <supssupbladeron> ok let me do that
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#1306 [19:02] <supssupbladeron> nope nothing called minecraft.jar
#1307 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Did you uncheck "Hide file extensions for known file types"?
#1308 [19:04] <supssupbladeron> ok there is a minecraft.jar but it is not a folder it is installed with the internet
#1309 [19:04] <supssupbladeron> is that it
#1310 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Right. Minecraft.jar is not a folder, but it is still a zipped file that you can open to put modded files in
#1311 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a program like winrar, winzip, or 7zip?
#1312 [19:04] <Wug> you keep saying "installed with the internet" what on earth does that mean
#1313 [19:05] <supssupbladeron> "installed with the internet" means it is linked to internet explorer nothing else
#1314 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> supssupbladeron - Do you have a program like winrar, winzip, or 7zip?
#1315 [19:06] <supssupbladeron> no
#1316 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> You're going to need one of those to be able to continue.
#1317 [19:06] <supssupbladeron> no i do not have any of those
#1318 [19:06] <supssupbladeron> ok
#1319 [19:06] <Wug> https://twitter.com/#!/wikileaks
#1320 [19:06] <supssupbladeron> now how do i get those
#1321 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> Uh-oh, what happened now?
#1322 [19:06] <Wug> I ... do not know
#1323 [19:07] <supssupbladeron> me neither
#1324 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> supssupbladeron - Say you wanted 7zip, you'd go to: http://www.7-zip.org/
#1325 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Or if you wanted winrar, http://www.win-rar.com/download.html
#1326 [19:07] <supssupbladeron> okay will do GreyVulpine
#1327 [19:10] <supssupbladeron> What! The! FUCK! my f***ing parent wont put in the password for the download
#1328 [19:10] * AuBot kicked supssupbladeron from #minecrafthelp (Reason: upssupbladeron :Please keep it civil.)
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#1330 [19:11] <supssupbladeron> did you see what i said
#1331 [19:11] <Wug> "password for the download"
#1332 [19:11] <Boreeas> Didn't we have that a couple of days ago?
#1333 [19:11] <supssupbladeron> no like over a week ago
#1334 [19:11] <supssupbladeron> my parent needs to put in a password to allow me to do the donload
#1335 [19:12] <Wug> use a different browser
#1336 [19:13] <supssupbladeron> my parent has Kaspri-antivirus installed with the computer and with that i cant do most downloads
#1337 [19:13] <mickster04> supssupbladeron: well just ask them to put it in?
#1338 [19:13] <supssupbladeron> my parent will need to put in a password
#1339 [19:13] <mickster04> supssupbladeron: why won't they?
#1340 [19:13] <supssupbladeron> i asked my parent and the answer was NO
#1341 [19:14] <mickster04> why not?
#1342 [19:14] <supssupbladeron> i dont freaking know
#1343 [19:14] <mickster04> well they must have a reason
#1344 [19:14] <supssupbladeron> i am not my freaking parent
#1345 [19:14] <mickster04> and i don't think any of us should consider trying to find a work around
#1346 [19:15] <supssupbladeron> trying to find a work around what?
#1347 [19:15] <mickster04> you didn't ask your parents why they won't let you download?
#1348 [19:16] <supssupbladeron> i did 2 ask my parent why they wouldnt put in the password for the download my parent said "well it is non of your fucking bussiness why i wont fucking put in the password"
#1349 [19:16] * AuBot kicked supssupbladeron from #minecrafthelp (Reason: upssupbladeron :Please keep it civil.)
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#1351 [19:17] <mickster04> well then
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#1353 [19:17] <mickster04> that sounds like sound logixc to me
#1354 [19:17] <mickster04> logic*
#1355 [19:17] <supssupbladeron> AuBot" can you please stop kicking me out i am trying to tell people stuff
#1356 [19:18] <clarjon1> supssupbladeron: aubot is a bot
#1357 [19:18] <supssupbladeron> oh
#1358 [19:18] <clarjon1> you can't say please to it
#1359 [19:18] <clarjon1> it'll just do what it's been programmed to do.
#1360 [19:18] <supssupbladeron> oh
#1361 [19:18] <clarjon1> ( the hint was the word 'bot' in the name :P )
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#1363 [19:18] <supssupbladeron> well shiz
#1364 [19:19] <mickster04> well we can't help you circumnavigate your parental protection supssupbladeron
#1365 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> *circumvent
#1366 [19:19] <supssupbladeron> can you people please stop doing tells to me the beep is getting annoying
#1367 [19:20] <mickster04> ?
#1368 [19:20] <Boreeas> supssupbladeron: Nope, that is common practice in IRC when talking to other people directly
#1369 [19:20] <supssupbladeron> the beep is gettiing annoying
#1370 [19:20] <Wug> supssupbladeron: perhaps if you are as polite to your parents as aubot wants you to be here you will have more luck. hint hint
#1371 [19:20] <mickster04> GreyVulpine: yeah thanks for that
#1372 [19:21] <mickster04> supssupbladeron: the beep is your client... turn it off in settings
#1373 [19:21] <supssupbladeron> ok
#1374 [19:22] * Boreeas notifies supssupbladeron some more
#1374 [19:22] * GreyVulpine wonders if the parental controls block ftp. Hmm.
#1374 [19:22] * Wug base64 encodes it and dumps it into the channel
#1374 [19:22] <Boreeas> Do eet
#1375 [19:24] <supssupbladeron> yay there are no more beeps
#1376 [19:24] * supssupbladeron says yay really loud and rages on his own builds in minecraft
#1376 [19:25] * supssupbladeron does not like the beep sounds
#1376 [19:25] * |Kiichan|Schala| pokes Boreeas
#1376 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Well, at least now you know where your minecraft.jar is. When you do get a chance to get winrar/7zip/whatever, you'll need to open minecraft.jar in it to add files in
#1377 [19:27] <supssupbladeron> kk thx
#1378 [19:29] <supssupbladeron> i cant see what i say or what any1 else says cause i made the text and IRC background the same colour
#1379 [19:29] * |Kiichan|Schala| facepalms
#1379 [19:31] <supssupbladeron> ok now it is all set yo default
#1380 [19:31] <mickster04> supssupbladeron: are you old enough to be using a computer?
#1381 [19:31] <supssupbladeron> yes i am
#1382 [19:32] <supssupbladeron> i am 17 years old
#1383 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> And you have parental controls on the computer?
#1384 [19:32] <supssupbladeron> so my parent still has custody over me
#1385 [19:32] <mickster04> so sometimes people accidently make the two colours the same, but you don't need to tell us about it :|
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#1387 [19:32] <mickster04> you sound much younger
#1388 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> Or rather, you have parental controls on the computer, and you haven't found ways around it?
#1389 [19:33] <supssupbladeron> no i am 17
#1390 [19:33] <mickster04> yeah
#1391 [19:33] <mickster04> google "how to get around parental controls"
#1392 [19:34] <mickster04> supssupbladeron: where are you from?
#1393 [19:34] <supssupbladeron> i am still trying to figure out my parent's password so i can do anything i want
#1394 [19:34] <mickster04> you said eastern europe? buy alaptop? they can't be that expensive in europe?
#1395 [19:35] <supssupbladeron> i am living in the same state i was born in which is missouri which is located in USA
#1396 [19:35] <supssupbladeron> and plus i cant buy a laptop i have no mulah
#1397 [19:36] <mickster04> get a job ya hippee :p
#1398 [19:36] <AshtonK> This guy sounds like hes 9..
#1399 [19:36] <AshtonK> No offense
#1400 [19:36] <mickster04> AshtonK: i agree
#1401 [19:36] <Boreeas> ^
#1402 [19:36] <|Kiichan|Schala|> AshtonK: that an offense to the well-speakign youngins.
#1403 [19:37] * GreyVulpine takes offense
#1403 [19:37] <AshtonK> Lol :)
#1404 [19:37] <mickster04> then you clearly are not stereotypical youngins
#1405 [19:38] <AshtonK> Ha, im quite young myself :)
#1406 [19:38] * GreyVulpine shakes cane, "Git-er off mah lawn"
#1406 [19:38] <|Kiichan|Schala|> inteligent youngin: http://www.youtube.com/user/ACtennisAC
#1407 [19:40] <supssupbladeron> i am 17 poeples
#1408 [19:40] <supssupbladeron> so sush up
#1409 [19:40] <AshtonK> Hey guys, so I own the domain Http://AshtonK.org , and im having it transferred to No-IP.. Once its on No-IP's NS's will I be able to make a host like Projectcommunity.ashtonk.org ?
#1410 [19:40] <mickster04> AshtonK: yeah
#1411 [19:40] <Boreeas> supssupbladeron: So tell us the secret code everyone is given at the age of 17
#1412 [19:41] <mickster04> yeah
#1413 [19:41] <AshtonK> Alright awesome.. Unfourtunately I still havent figured out my connectivity problems.. :(
#1414 [19:41] <mickster04> that code that i got a while ago...i'm sure i have it around here somewhere
#1415 [19:41] <supssupbladeron> o6952156
#1416 [19:41] <Boreeas> Wrong
#1417 [19:41] <AshtonK> LOL
#1418 [19:41] <supssupbladeron> 06952156
#1419 [19:41] <AshtonK> As he types random numbers ^^ :D
#1420 [19:41] <Boreeas> Derp
#1421 [19:41] <Boreeas> It's a pass phrase, silly
#1422 [19:42] <|Kiikun|> phrase? really.
#1423 [19:42] <Boreeas> |Kiikun|: Maybe it's different where you live :P
#1424 [19:42] <AshtonK> 8SUM :D
#1425 [19:43] * |Kiikun| hands Boreeas a sheet of paper with the code written on it.
#1425 [19:43] * Wug waves cane at GreyVulpine "Won't stand for it? You CAN'T stand for it! You'd probably break a leg."
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#1426 [19:43] * GreyVulpine pffts at Wug
#1426 [19:43] * mickster04 chuckles
#1426 [19:43] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: careful there.. your spewing prune juice again.
#1427 [19:43] <mickster04> you old people :p
#1428 [19:44] <Wug> when i waz ur age
#1429 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Dinosaurs still roamed the Earth?
#1430 [19:44] <mickster04> the elders of the internet?
#1431 [19:44] <Wug> basically
#1432 [19:44] <Wug> I rode a dinosaur to school instead of a bus
#1433 [19:44] <Boreeas> In my youth, we didn't have this fancy "Assembly", we only had 0s and 1s
#1434 [19:45] <Boreeas> And sometimes not even that
#1435 [19:45] <Wug> Boreeas: "assemblatory"
#1436 [19:45] <Boreeas> I once write an enitre database application using only 0s
#1437 [19:45] <Wug> lol
#1438 [19:45] <AshtonK> There are 10 types of people in this world.. Ones that understand binary, and ones that dont.
#1439 [19:45] * Boreeas plagiarises shamelessly
#1439 [19:45] <AshtonK> Who can answer it ! :D
#1440 [19:45] <Wug> how do you answer a statement
#1441 [19:45] <AshtonK> WHO understands it*
#1442 [19:46] <Wug> lol everyone
#1443 [19:46] <Boreeas> Do they, AshtonK?
#1444 [19:46] <AshtonK> I doubt that very much.
#1445 [19:46] <Wug> everyone here with a @ or + at least
#1446 [19:46] <|Kiikun|> indeed,
#1447 [19:46] <Boreeas> And some of the normal ones, too, I guess
#1448 [19:46] <AshtonK> Good point.
#1449 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> If not, I will personally revoke their geek credentials.
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#1451 [19:47] * GreyVulpine gets out stamp.
#1451 [19:47] <Wug> you don't end up shackled into the slavery of #minecrafthelp by not knowing what binary is
#1452 [19:47] <mickster04> i thought you read binary left to right, so 1,2,4,8.....
#1453 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Left.. to right?
#1454 [19:47] <AshtonK> LOLOLOL
#1455 [19:47] <mickster04> so actually there are 010 types of people in the world
#1456 [19:47] <AshtonK> 64,32,16,8,4,2,1
#1457 [19:47] <|Kiikun|> leftmost bit is the highest weight
#1458 [19:47] <Wug> perhaps you mean little endian
#1459 [19:47] * GreyVulpine stamps mickster04's forehead.
#1459 [19:47] <mickster04> yeah...
#1460 [19:47] <Wug> but even then, thats only least significant byte first
#1461 [19:48] <|Kiikun|> but theres caes where its read from the LOWEST weight...
#1462 [19:48] <mickster04> gonna sue my school :p
#1463 [19:48] <|Kiikun|> never figured out what those cases were
#1464 [19:48] <Boreeas> Wug: Does it have to do with trash?
#1465 [19:48] <Wug> so the bit ordering is 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
#1466 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> Gah.
#1467 [19:49] <Wug> also shame on me for using 1-indexing instead of 0
#1468 [19:49] * GreyVulpine waves stamp menacingly at Wug
#1468 [19:49] <|Kiikun|> Wug: not all languages are 0. mIRC scriopt uses 0 for 'count'
#1469 [19:49] <Boreeas> >mIRC script
#1470 [19:49] <Boreeas> >language
#1471 [19:49] <Wug> |Kiikun|: all sensible languages use 0
#1472 [19:49] <Boreeas> Hahaha
#1473 [19:50] <mickster04> yeah
#1474 [19:50] <mickster04> i know that much :D
#1475 [19:50] <|Kiikun|> im sure theres atleast one good language that doesnt.
#1476 [19:50] <Wug> |Kiikun|: if you can find it I'll give you an internet nickel
#1477 [19:50] <mickster04> no, it's a definition of a good language, must count from 0
#1478 [19:50] <Boreeas> Pascal, but that's hardly a good langauge
#1479 [19:50] <mickster04> :p
#1480 [19:50] <AshtonK> K guys so im trying to register my server on http://minecraftservers.org/addserver, and im afraid I keep getting this error, "Your server is offline or it isn't valid. Please try again" .. My server is online, and im infact logged in right now so I do not understand the problem.. All of my entered information is correct.
#1481 [19:51] <Wug> ;check AshtonK
#1482 [19:51] <WugBot> S010600226b803fac.ss.shawcable.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: A Minecraft Server (1/20)
#1483 [19:51] <|Kiikun|> !check 70.76.36.14
#1484 [19:51] <supssupbladeron> dudes i just got around my parent's controlls the download is going i will have skyblock and all of that soon yaya
#1485 [19:51] <|Kiikun|> both bots agre
#1486 [19:51] <Wug> !check AshtonK
#1487 [19:51] <|Kiikun|> !check 70.76.36.14
#1488 [19:51] <Wug> ;ip AshtonK
#1489 [19:51] <WugBot> IP address of AshtonK is: 70.76.36.14
#1490 [19:51] * |Kiikun| scratches head
#1490 [19:52] <Wug> aubot: you're a derp
#1491 [19:52] <Boreeas> Enough checks?
#1492 [19:52] <Boreeas> !check !check
#1493 [19:52] <Wug> oh wait we went over this
#1494 [19:52] <Wug> comcast, you're a derp
#1495 [19:52] <AshtonK> Soo . What should I do?
#1496 [19:52] <Wug> AshtonK: no idea. its not canon minecraft
#1497 [19:52] <Wug> I don't know how to help with it
#1498 [19:52] <Wug> is there a support page or something?
#1499 [19:52] <AshtonK> Ill check.
#1500 [19:53] <|Kiikun|> AshtonK: watch the hostname your giving as the server?
#1501 [19:53] <|Kiikun|> *what's
#1502 [19:53] <AshtonK> Nope. no support. & projectcommunity.hopto.org
#1503 [19:53] <|Kiikun|> !check projectcommunity.hopto.org
#1504 [19:53] * |Kiikun| shrugs then
#1504 [19:54] <AshtonK> Thats f@cked.
#1505 [19:54] <AshtonK> Sorry ^^
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#1507 [19:54] <|Kiikun|> how long you had it on that hostname? (thinking dns registry updated havent propogated yet)
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#1509 [19:54] <AshtonK> Like a day.. & I also tried just using my IP.. Same error
#1510 [19:55] <AshtonK> Would you mind trying to log on to see if you get access?
#1511 [19:55] <|Kiikun|> theyre checker is probably borked... or reqwuired a specific mod installed
#1512 [19:55] <AshtonK> Maybe..
#1513 [19:56] <supssupbladeron> dudes i just got around my parent's controlls the download is going i will have skyblock and all of that soon yaya
#1514 [19:56] <AshtonK> Dudes? Theres no way he is 17.
#1515 [19:56] <supssupbladeron> well i am 17
#1516 [19:57] <supssupbladeron> so shut up
#1517 [19:57] <AshtonK> Want a plaque?
#1518 [19:57] <supssupbladeron> the download is finished yaya
#1519 [19:57] <|Kiikun|> supssupbladeron: nice comeback... real 'young adult' of you.
#1520 [19:57] <Boreeas> >yaya
#1521 [19:57] <Boreeas> seems_legit.jpg
#1522 [19:57] <AshtonK> Lool ^
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#1526 [20:22] <lilybet> !check
#1527 [20:22] <lilybet> Yay :)
#1528 [20:22] <lilybet> damn 359 lat
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#1534 [20:42] <mmdawg1> Can I have a link for the mojang support ticket please
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#1536 [20:42] <mmdawg1> Hello?
#1537 [20:43] <mmdawg1> I need the mojang support ticket link
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#1539 [20:45] <bejoe905> I come wih another problem -_-
#1540 [20:46] <bejoe905> i installed zombe's modpack, along with rei's minimap and CJB's chat mod, and my fly is sticky. It's like it's defaulted to always be on.
#1541 [20:47] <mmdawg1> This is not for mods
#1542 [20:47] <mickster04> !mods
#1543 [20:47] <mickster04> ?mod
#1544 [20:47] <mickster04> i can't remember how to get the bot to expain it to you
#1545 [20:47] <mmdawg1> And hit f7
#1546 [20:47] <mmdawg1> the goto fly
#1547 [20:47] <mmdawg1> and look at your toggle key
#1548 [20:48] <bejoe905> I know all that, but it trns off for like, .5 seconds.
#1549 [20:48] <mickster04> mmdawg1: ave you looked at mojang.com?
#1550 [20:48] <bejoe905> but i just realized what i did wrong
#1551 [20:48] <bejoe905> so nvm
#1552 [20:48] <mmdawg1> mick I can't find the support ticket
#1553 [20:48] <mmdawg1> ok bejoe
#1554 [20:48] <mickster04> mmdawg1: for minecraft?
#1555 [20:49] <mmdawg1> The Mojang site has a support ticket page
#1556 [20:49] <mmdawg1> I can't find it
#1557 [20:50] <mickster04> http://help.mojang.com/
#1558 [20:50] <mmdawg1> the tickets are not on this page though
#1559 [20:52] <mmdawg1> found it
#1560 [20:52] <mickster04> where?
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#1562 [20:59] <cwarn23> Does anybody know a list of legit clients the come with pre installed mods
#1563 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> There is no such thing. Mods are not officially supported
#1564 [20:59] <mmdawg1> Ummm
#1565 [20:59] <cwarn23> I mean ones that people have made like teleporter
#1566 [21:00] <mmdawg1> I tried to login to minecraft.net and it didnt let me so I went to recover username and it said my email wasn't on record
#1567 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Right. There is only one legit client, and that's from minecraft.net/download
#1568 [21:00] <cwarn23> ow ok
#1569 [21:00] <mmdawg1> then I did check usernames so I typed in my email and it said it was not on record
#1570 [21:00] <cwarn23> that's good to know
#1571 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Any other client is not produced by Mojang, and is not supported by Mojang
#1572 [21:01] <mmdawg1> anything you can do to help?
#1573 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> mmdawg1 - Did you migrate your account?
#1574 [21:01] <cwarn23> not for me
#1575 [21:01] <mmdawg1> yes
#1576 [21:01] <mickster04> mmdawg1: check your email again
#1577 [21:02] <mmdawg1> What do you mean
#1578 [21:02] <mmdawg1> I migrated over a month ago and I couldn't login since I migrated
#1579 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> mmdawg1 - Once you migrate your account, you'll need to use your email address in place of your username
#1580 [21:02] <mmdawg1> I did
#1581 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> Try logging into https://account.mojang.com/
#1582 [21:03] <mmdawg1> it says unknown
#1583 [21:03] <mmdawg1> I have
#1584 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> And does that work?
#1585 [21:03] <mmdawg1> yes
#1586 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> Then I don't see a problem. Once you migrate your account, you'll need to use https://account.mojang.com/
#1587 [21:03] <mmdawg1> and I just checked to see if I migrated and it said I was alreadt migrated
#1588 [21:04] <mmdawg1> but I can't change my skin through that
#1589 [21:04] <|Kiikun|> mmdawg1: use the email address as username to log into the minecraft website. use the game username to log in throguh client
#1590 [21:04] <mmdawg1> I did
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#1592 [21:04] <mmdawg1> I can login to my game client fine
#1593 [21:05] <mmdawg1> its the site I can't access
#1594 [21:05] <|Kiikun|> then as grey said, you have no problem
#1595 [21:05] <|Kiikun|> *repeats* mmdawg1: use the email address as username to log into the minecraft website.
#1596 [21:05] <mmdawg1> I did
#1597 [21:05] <mmdawg1> It doesn't work
#1598 [21:05] <|Kiikun|> then its either the email being typed worn or the password
#1599 [21:05] <|Kiikun|> *wrong
#1600 [21:06] <mmdawg1> No I did it super slow carfully examining each key
#1601 [21:06] <mmdawg1> slow and carfully
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#1603 [21:06] <mmdawg1> Ive sent in a support ticket and I'm waiting for feed back
#1604 [21:06] <mmdawg1> But I was trying to see if anyone could help
#1605 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft username?
#1606 [21:07] <mmdawg1> mmdawg1
#1607 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> !paid mmdawg1
#1608 [21:07] <mmdawg1> but I have a non premium linked to the same email and I think thats fucking it up
#1609 [21:07] * AuBot kicked mmdawg1 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mdawg1 :Please keep it civil.)
#1610 [21:07] <mickster04> eejit
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#1612 [21:08] <mmdawg1> but I have a non premium linked to the same email and I think thats messed it up
#1613 [21:08] <mmdawg1> but I have a non premium linked to the same email and I think thats messed it up
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#1615 [21:08] <mmdawg1> and the non premium would be mmdawg2
#1616 [21:08] <mmdawg1> !paid mmdawg2
#1617 [21:08] <mmdawg1> see
#1618 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> If you're able to log into accounts.mojang.com, try changing your password through there, and use it to login at minecraft.net
#1619 [21:08] <mmdawg1> Ok
#1620 [21:08] <mmdawg1> i will brb
#1621 [21:08] <|Kiikun|> !paid ThisIsNotAnyonesAccountName
#1622 [21:08] <|Kiikun|> :P
#1623 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> !paid |Kiikun|
#1624 [21:09] * GreyVulpine gasps and points, "Pirate!"
#1624 [21:09] <|Kiikun|> lawls!
#1625 [21:09] <|Kiikun|> yarrrhar!
#1626 [21:09] <mmdawg1> Still doesnt work
#1627 [21:10] <mmdawg1> !paid Krystian1333
#1628 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, Don't think there's anything else we can suggest.
#1629 [21:11] <mmdawg1> okj
#1630 [21:12] <mickster04> !paid
#1631 [21:12] <mickster04> awww yeahh :D
#1632 [21:12] <|Kiikun|> mickster04: why did i just hear that in baritone?
#1633 [21:14] <mickster04> :DF
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#1636 [21:22] <CrusaderDeleters> Alright, so then does anyone here know how the authentication of the users for premium mode takes place via password works?
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#1638 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#1639 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> ?? login
#1640 [21:23] <VoxelHead> login: http://session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Meep&sessionId=test&serverId=test
#1641 [21:23] <VoxelHead> login: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#1642 [21:23] * GreyVulpine points above ^
#1642 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> er, the second one.
#1643 [21:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Ahh.
#1644 [21:24] <CrusaderDeleters> yeah, guessed so.
#1645 [21:24] <CrusaderDeleters> So then I will be able to make a working mc client with that.
#1646 [21:24] <CrusaderDeleters> kinda.
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#1650 [21:36] <langkid1> ...
#1651 [21:36] <langkid1> I don't understand, why do we need upside down stairs
#1652 [21:36] <|Kiikun|> design.
#1653 [21:37] <langkid1> so it's just a adv map maker thing?
#1654 [21:37] <CrusaderDeleters> what?
#1655 [21:37] * |Kiikun| WANTS MULTI-ANGLED SLABS!
#1655 [21:37] * CrusaderDeleters AGREES!
#1655 [21:37] <langkid1> if Jens wanted design he'd add slabs and tiny blocks like in the Better Than Wolves mod
#1656 [21:37] <mickster04> no
#1657 [21:37] <mickster04> perpendicular or bust!
#1658 [21:37] <langkid1> D:
#1659 [21:38] <|Kiikun|> langkid1: its for makign things look purdy... or for other thiongs the technical guys learn to use it for
#1660 [21:38] <langkid1> lol
#1661 [21:38] <CrusaderDeleters> kiikun, I think they will add upside down slabs in 1.3! :D
#1662 [21:38] * mickster04 wants to see one of those cofused viewpoint images, like the surrealist ones
#1662 [21:38] * |Kiikun| sends a multi-angled horror at mickster04 :P
#1662 [21:38] <|Kiikun|> probabbly
#1663 [21:38] <CrusaderDeleters> actually
#1664 [21:39] <mickster04> think end of 'the labrinth' with david bowie
#1665 [21:39] <CrusaderDeleters> multi angling will be really hard in minecraft.
#1666 [21:39] <|Kiikun|> i mean side-slabs, and top-slabs were already mentioned
#1667 [21:39] <CrusaderDeleters> yeah.
#1668 [21:39] <|Kiikun|> slabs then become wall tiles :P
#1669 [21:40] <CrusaderDeleters> But notch really- erm, jebs (sorry, I am from back then), really needs to add some new kinds of blocks.
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#1671 [21:40] <|Kiikun|> the restone lamp not good enough for 'new'? :P
#1672 [21:40] <|Kiikun|> and the whole mushroom biome isnt all THAT old.
#1673 [21:40] <Jouster500> What is the name of the site that transforms minecraft photos to the right code for forums?
#1674 [21:41] * |Kiikun| just wishes you codul save the shroom-skin..
#1674 [21:41] <|Kiikun|> Jouster500: imgur.com ?
#1675 [21:41] <Jouster500> thx
#1676 [21:42] <CrusaderDeleters> I really wish that the redstone lamps were not blocks.
#1677 [21:43] <|Kiikun|> you wanted something liek the torches.. just brighter?
#1678 [21:44] <CrusaderDeleters> no, torches you can hang on the cieling.
#1679 [21:44] <mickster04> I would like to have less fog :) like epic long range graphics :D
#1680 [21:44] <CrusaderDeleters> and can turn on/off
#1681 [21:44] <CrusaderDeleters> YEAH!
#1682 [21:44] <mickster04> you could get some stunning views from mountain tops :)
#1683 [21:44] <CrusaderDeleters> LONGER RANGE!
#1684 [21:44] <CrusaderDeleters> YEAH! STUNNING VIEWS!
#1685 [21:44] <mickster04> :|
#1686 [21:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Who's with me?
#1687 [21:44] <|Kiikun|> mickster04: stunning views from 256? :P
#1688 [21:45] <mickster04> you're, mocking me, aren't you
#1689 [21:45] <CrusaderDeleters> No.
#1690 [21:45] <CrusaderDeleters> I am agreeing :D
#1691 [21:45] <mickster04> there are some pretty cool sunset sin the game
#1692 [21:46] * |Kiikun| sees 'Farther' being added to view distance.. and this channel becomgin populated by everyone with less than 3 gb of ram, 32bit OSs, and craptacular video cards
#1692 [21:46] <|Kiikun|> all going 'WHY U NO WORK FOR ME FARTHERERR!!!
#1693 [21:46] <CrusaderDeleters> Why did you describe me!? D:
#1694 [21:46] <mickster04> man, i would love to see what my pc could do :)
#1695 [21:47] <|Kiikun|> mickster04: i liek watchign the sunset through my treefarm's leaf-windows
#1696 [21:47] <CrusaderDeleters> When I build mine, same.
#1697 [21:47] <mickster04> nvidia geforce 460 SE, 16GB ram, AMD x4
#1698 [21:47] <mickster04> it would be awesome
#1699 [21:47] <|Kiikun|> 460 SE?
#1700 [21:47] <mickster04> yeah
#1701 [21:47] <mickster04> 1GB ram
#1702 [21:47] <|Kiikun|> i dont remember the SE tag,
#1703 [21:47] <CrusaderDeleters> I used to have an nvidia geforce 7800 (.5 gig), 2 gigs, 32 os xp, and a duo core.
#1704 [21:47] <mickster04> GDDR5? sdoes that sound right?
#1705 [21:47] <mickster04> i can't remember the exact name of the thing :0
#1706 [21:48] <mickster04> win 7 for me :)
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#1708 [21:48] <mickster04> just needto install and set up rainmeter :D
#1709 [21:48] <CrusaderDeleters> I now haz win 7 64, 8 gig, and a crappier card.
#1710 [21:49] <|Kiikun|> oh. SE = cheeper version :P
#1711 [21:49] <CrusaderDeleters> lol.
#1712 [21:49] <mickster04> it had bigger numbesr in it :p
#1713 [21:49] <|Kiikun|> well... slightly disabled version :P
#1714 [21:49] <mickster04> i want a 580 though
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#1716 [21:50] * |Kiikun| has a GeForce GTX 460
#1716 [21:50] <|Kiikun|> not SE :P
#1717 [21:50] <|Kiikun|> and its 'super-superclocked' by EVGA
#1718 [21:50] <mickster04> good point. i don't have the SE
#1719 [21:50] <mickster04> ooh
#1720 [21:50] <mickster04> i dunno
#1721 [21:50] <mickster04> i'll find out later :)
#1722 [21:53] * |Kiikun| is bored so listens to random tracks on http://incompetech.com
#1722 [21:53] <|Anthony|> i've installed GLSL shaders and it didn't spit out any errors, but there are no noticeable effects
#1723 [21:53] <|Anthony|> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/120261-110-glsl-shaders-dof-bump-mapping-waving-wheat-dynamic-shadows-and-more/
#1724 [21:54] <|Kiikun|> ?? mods
#1725 [21:54] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#1726 [21:54] <VoxelHead> mods: as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1727 [21:54] <|Anthony|> gotcha
#1728 [21:54] <|Anthony|> i figured as much, but w/e
#1729 [21:54] <|Kiikun|> but you probably installed the wrong version or something
#1730 [21:54] * |Kiikun| shrugs
#1730 [21:54] <|Anthony|> meh :/
#1731 [21:55] <CrusaderDeleters> Anyone here knows how to code in visual basics?
#1732 [21:55] <|Kiikun|> i know some VB
#1733 [21:55] <|Kiikun|> and java.... and mIRC Script... and C.. and C++
#1734 [21:55] * |Kiikun| is multilingual.... only in computer languages though
#1734 [21:55] <CrusaderDeleters> kool. do you know how to return a variable from a web page?
#1735 [21:56] <mickster04> that doenn't make sense, right
#1736 [21:56] <mickster04> ?
#1737 [21:56] <mickster04> it's not just me
#1738 [21:56] <|Kiikun|> yeah... unless its something like greasemonkey
#1739 [21:56] <|Kiikun|> but thats JS
#1740 [21:56] <mickster04> or ASP.net?
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#1742 [21:57] <CrusaderDeleters> You know how they check for premium without the password?
#1743 [21:57] <|Kiikun|> yes.
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#1745 [21:57] <CrusaderDeleters> and it just has a blank page with true/false?
#1746 [21:57] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, I want to basically use that kind of thing
#1747 [21:57] <|Kiikun|> not a page.. it JUST returns true or false
#1748 [21:57] * |Kiikun| doesnt know how to make vb deal with ports
#1748 [21:58] <CrusaderDeleters> hrm.
#1749 [21:58] <|Kiikun|> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3918639/visual-basic-2010-http-post-request
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#1751 [22:06] <|Kiikun|> CrusaderDeleters: why do you want to rewrite the client in somethign as crappy as VB?
#1752 [22:06] <CrusaderDeleters> well, for one, vb is the easiest language I know.
#1753 [22:07] <CrusaderDeleters> and 2: I just felt like it.
#1754 [22:07] * |Kiikun| shrugs
#1754 [22:07] <|Kiikun|> good luck then?
#1755 [22:07] <CrusaderDeleters> haha.
#1756 [22:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Thanks.
#1757 [22:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Seems to be going pretty well.
#1758 [22:07] <CrusaderDeleters> I just don't know how I will do the graphics.
#1759 [22:07] <mickster04> pen and paper
#1760 [22:08] <CrusaderDeleters> lol.
#1761 [22:09] <mickster04> well you could use them and then take images and make it the background for whatever you are doing
#1762 [22:09] <mickster04> just scan stuff in and take images etc :p
#1763 [22:09] <CrusaderDeleters> haha.
#1764 [22:09] <CrusaderDeleters> I wish it was that easy
#1765 [22:10] <mickster04> what do you mean graphics?
#1766 [22:11] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, the background for the client
#1767 [22:11] <CrusaderDeleters> oh, kii, 3: it's something new.
#1768 [22:11] <|Kiikun|> dirt texture repeated
#1769 [22:11] <CrusaderDeleters> lolno.
#1770 [22:11] <|Kiikun|> or you mean the menu?
#1771 [22:11] <CrusaderDeleters> The client, the launcher
#1772 [22:11] <mickster04> just use default grey :)
#1773 [22:12] <CrusaderDeleters> XD
#1774 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> Red letters, scrolling, in Comic Sans, "This is my uber-awesome Minecraft client"
#1775 [22:13] * GreyVulpine nods sagely
#1775 [22:14] <CrusaderDeleters> lol.
#1776 [22:14] <CrusaderDeleters> I am trying to make something worth the making here XD
#1777 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Oh, well then. g'luck!
#1778 [22:15] <CrusaderDeleters> oh hell. Why must vb be so complex with grabbing variables from web pages?
#1779 [22:15] <|Kiikun|> no. in System font :P
#1780 [22:15] <CrusaderDeleters> lol.
#1781 [22:15] <CrusaderDeleters> No.
#1782 [22:15] <|Kiikun|> CrusaderDeleters: because it IS a complex task? wanna do it it mircscript?
#1783 [22:15] <CrusaderDeleters> In paint.
#1784 [22:16] <CrusaderDeleters> lol. Yes. But no really, I got it to grab the variable, but it won't let me use it in an if statement.
#1785 [22:16] <|Kiikun|> get it.. use .toString
#1786 [22:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Well if only I thought of that. -_-
#1787 [22:17] <CrusaderDeleters> I feel just as smart as a bag of rocks.
#1788 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Are you using http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user= -- or -- https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#1789 [22:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Laugh at me, please.
#1790 [22:17] <CrusaderDeleters> #2
#1791 [22:17] <|Kiikun|> oh.. derp.
#1792 [22:17] <|Kiikun|> haspaid is true/false
#1793 [22:17] <CrusaderDeleters> #1 will allow ANYONE to be able to log into ANYONE's login page.
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#1795 [22:18] <CrusaderDeleters> no, not login page. Account.
#1796 [22:18] * |Kiikun| looks at the ircclound users...
#1796 [22:18] <|Kiikun|> CrusaderDeleters: use the Parchment Regular font, if you have it :P all in caps too
#1797 [22:19] <CrusaderDeleters> freawp!
#1798 [22:19] <CrusaderDeleters> I just realized... trying to get link 2 to work might be the end of my attempt :(
#1799 [22:20] <CrusaderDeleters> it gives a random variable for the second set of numbers
#1800 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Yes, that's the login token
#1801 [22:21] <CrusaderDeleters> I... don't understand any of these things. :(
#1802 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Either you get a login token, or you get "User Not Premium"
#1803 [22:21] <|Kiikun|> [currentVersion]:depreciated:[user]:[loginToken]
#1804 [22:21] <CrusaderDeleters> ahh.
#1805 [22:22] <CrusaderDeleters> So then the first number is the same for everyone, and used to check for updates, deprecated is just there, then user, then logintoken
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#1807 [22:23] <lilybet> hey
#1808 [22:23] <lilybet> Do you help with Mcbans?
#1809 [22:23] <CrusaderDeleters> and then it will say bad login if the password is wrong.
#1810 [22:23] <|Kiikun|> no. try #mcbans is its still there
#1811 [22:23] <|Kiikun|> CrusaderDeleters: yup
#1812 [22:23] <lilybet> ty :D
#1813 [22:23] <CrusaderDeleters> thanks for your help. :D
#1814 [22:24] <lilybet> Typical, i need help setting it up and every is as quiet as a ghost lol
#1815 [22:24] <CrusaderDeleters> should it even need to check for the login token? if everything else returned just fine, it should work well.
#1816 [22:24] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#1817 [22:24] <lilybet> why lang?
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#1819 [22:25] <CrusaderDeleters> ?
#1820 [22:25] <lilybet> and>
#1821 [22:25] <langkid1> don't use mcbans, ads for their porn sites might bleed through
#1822 [22:25] <lilybet> lolo
#1823 [22:25] <CrusaderDeleters> oh
#1824 [22:25] * |Kiikun| whaps langkid1
#1824 [22:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Who was it that was being a total douche to one of the people who needed help here?
#1825 [22:25] <langkid1> |Kiikun|, also that firestar character is pretty sketchy =\
#1826 [22:26] <CrusaderDeleters> what firestar character?
#1827 [22:26] <langkid1> isn't that the one from mcbans?
#1828 [22:26] <lilybet> amg
#1829 [22:26] <lilybet> the mcbans channel is closed
#1830 [22:27] <CrusaderDeleters> look at their topic
#1831 [22:27] <lilybet> oh yeah lo
#1832 [22:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Topic for #mcbans is “channel closed | MAIN mcbans channel irc.freenode.net #mcbans | Or join us on your Unofficial MCBans Esper Oasis #mcbans-esper”
#1833 [22:27] <langkid1> o.o
#1834 [22:27] <langkid1> did someone hack the mcbans site?
#1835 [22:28] <langkid1> there's a blank section... with a message saying there was somthing here
#1836 [22:28] <langkid1> I believe that the main MCBans channel was moved from esper because it was attracting,... bad business
#1837 [22:28] <|Kiikun|> they probably removed it and didnt have somethign to replace it with
#1838 [22:28] <langkid1> DDoSes and stuff like that from griefer groups
#1839 [22:28] <CrusaderDeleters> I think that it is just a little joke :P
#1840 [22:28] <|Kiikun|> groups? just one group i think
#1841 [22:28] <langkid1> |Kiikun|, yeah :|
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#1843 [22:29] <|Kiikun|> CrusaderDeleters: and you dont need to keep the token. unless youre planning on makign it load the game and the player will want to multiplay
#1844 [22:29] <|Kiikun|> :P
#1845 [22:29] <CrusaderDeleters> :L
#1846 [22:29] <CrusaderDeleters> so then it uses the token for multiplayer
#1847 [22:29] <mib_2ofwx7> noone ever replies
#1848 [22:29] <mib_2ofwx7> i just want to setup mcbans :(
#1849 [22:30] <CrusaderDeleters> well, I must log. Bye
#1850 [22:31] <|Kiikun|> mib_2ofwx7: the sire should tell you how.
#1851 [22:31] <|Kiikun|> *site
#1852 [22:31] <|Kiikun|> argh... typopopon
#1853 [22:32] <mib_2ofwx7> huh? lol
#1854 [22:37] <langkid1> mib_2ofwx7, you never asked a question ._.
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#1856 [22:38] <|Kiikun|> langkid1: mib was lily
#1857 [22:38] <langkid1> :o
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#1859 [22:39] * |Kiikun| resumes debating usiong the other MCkey
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#1860 [22:42] <|Kiikun|> !paid NutBunny
#1861 [22:42] <Eddie> !paid !paid
#1862 [22:42] <|Kiikun|> !paid NutBunny
#1863 [22:42] <oldtopman> Eddie: niiice.
#1864 [22:43] <|Kiikun|> Eddie: haha :P
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#1866 [22:43] <Eddie> I got scared it would recursively call itself
#1867 [22:43] <|Kiikun|> oldtopman: YOU!!!
#1868 [22:43] <oldtopman> Just a little more clever than checking Notch's status.
#1869 [22:43] <|Kiikun|> !paid NutBunny
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#1873 [22:55] <langkid1> GreyVulpine, there should be a akick set on anyone with the host *!Mibbit@* with the reason "We don't support mibbit, please use http://webchat.esper.net/?channels=lobby"
#1874 [22:57] <mib_2ofwx7> i use mibbit
#1875 [22:57] <langkid1> mib_2ofwx7, yes, please see the porn add above
#1876 [22:57] <langkid1> ad*
#1877 [22:57] <mib_2ofwx7> lol
#1878 [22:57] <langkid1> do you want to use webchat yet :)?
#1879 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
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#1881 [23:03] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: ignore him. its bes explains already why we dont ban mibbit :P
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#1883 [23:05] <langkid1> |Kiikun|, NO ONE is banned here
#1884 [23:05] <langkid1> that's a problem
#1885 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> And how is that a problem?
#1886 [23:06] <langkid1> nvm...
#1887 [23:08] <|Kiikun|> exactly.
#1888 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> By banning mibbit, you're essentially blocking off a line of communications to a channel where we try to help people with problems. It quite frankly, doesn't matter if you use mibbit, or webchat, or mIRC, or xchat, or some other IRC client.
#1889 [23:09] <langkid1> GreyVulpine, bug notch to change the link
#1890 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> Ask yourself, if you needed help, and the only way to get it is with morse code, would you be more or less inclined to seek it?
#1891 [23:09] <|Kiikun|> .... damned i dont have a /morse alias. *fixes*
#1892 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> We try to be available here, regardless of the IRC client that people use.
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