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#16 [02:24] <Weidmo> Is there like some sort of bug going on with multiplayer? I can't log onto my own server nor my friend. But i can log on my other friends server... what is this? :<
#17 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Server running?
#18 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> What IP are you using to connect?
#19 [02:25] <Weidmo> My own
#20 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Which is?
#21 [02:25] <Weidmo> 81.234.129.157
#22 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> ;check 81.234.129.157
#23 [02:25] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 81.234.129.157:25565 (Timed out)
#24 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> No server's listening on that IP address. Port forwarding correct?
#25 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> ;check Weidmo
#26 [02:26] <Weidmo> Yes it is
#27 [02:26] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: h157n3-vs-a-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com:25565 (Timed out)
#28 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> Could you double check?
#29 [02:26] <Weidmo> Yeah sure, give me a sec
#30 [02:28] <Weidmo> Yeah as far as i can see it should be forwarded
#31 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> What's the local ip address of the computer running the server?
#32 [02:30] <Weidmo> 192.168.1.76 , not sure if that's the right thing you're looking for
#33 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to connect to that IP address?
#34 [02:30] <Weidmo> Aha yes i could
#35 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> Then something's blocking the connecting between that computer, and the outside. check your firewall, triple check your port forwarding
#36 [02:31] <Weidmo> Ok i will do, thanks for all the help
#37 [02:33] <Finamenon> router resets often change the local IP addy
#38 [02:33] <Finamenon> server might have changed and port forward no longer right
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#40 [02:42] <Plu> Internal client error: java.net.socketexception: permission denied: connect. I'm getting this error trying to connect to MY OWN minecraft server
#41 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> Do you run Java 7?
#42 [02:45] <Plu> I have no idea. How do i check?
#43 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#44 [02:45] <Plu> windows 7 home premium 64bit
#45 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, hit the Control Panel. Look for Programs and Features there. You'll be able to see what java is installed in there
#46 [02:46] <Plu> java 6 update 31
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#48 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, have you ever been able to play online?
#49 [02:47] <Plu> Yep, all the time.
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#51 [02:48] <GreyVulpine> Installed any new security software since then?
#52 [02:48] <Plu> Nope.
#53 [02:48] <Plu> I would re-install java, but, I cant get on their website.
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#55 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Erm, java.com?
#56 [02:50] <Plu> Yep, ive tried opening it in 2 browsers
#57 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> That's.. not right.
#58 [02:50] <Plu> I'm going to try restarting my computer and modem.
#59 [02:51] <Plu> Brb.
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#84 [13:51] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: ?
#85 [13:51] <Wug> it was dead earlier
#86 [13:51] <Wug> galaxy was having issues
#87 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> Ah, so by 'Vox is dead', you meant 'The IRC network node to which Vox is connected is having issues'.
#88 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> you can see how I may have misunderstood.
#89 [13:52] <Wug> is vox configured to connect only to galaxy
#90 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> Not true.
#91 [13:52] <Wug> then I dont know
#92 [13:52] <Wug> galaxy died and took everything on it with it
#93 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> 11:52 <VoxelHead> Server list:
#94 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> 11:52 <VoxelHead> irc.esper.net:6667 (apocalypse.esper.net) <- I am here
#95 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> 11:52 <VoxelHead> End of server list.
#96 [13:53] <Wug> you know what it was
#97 [13:53] <Wug> it probably just wasnt identified
#98 [13:53] <Wug> I only looked in the op list
#99 [13:53] <sugoi> ok where is this huge conversation coming from - how do you guys just start in the middle
#100 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: Wug mentioned it four hours ago, and I just reconnected my screen session and got the message.
#101 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> you just missed the beginning.
#102 [13:54] * sugoi scrolls back 4 hours
#102 [13:54] <sugoi> ah
#103 [13:55] * sugoi is @ UTC+7 hours
#103 [13:57] <DopeGhoti> You may be just about exactly on the opposite side of the world from me, at least longitudinally.
#104 [13:57] <sugoi> haha, nice
#105 [13:57] <sugoi> portland oregon
#106 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> oh. UTC*-*7, not *+*7
#107 [13:58] <sugoi> AH
#108 [13:58] <sugoi> sorry
#109 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> also, Wug: http://pastebin.com/fNQackjD Not so dead as you thought, apparently.
#110 [13:58] <Wug> idk
#111 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> no biggie, thanks for the heads-up, even if it wan't exactly needed (:
#112 [13:59] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: He played a mean trick on me :<
#113 [13:59] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: save face? i used to live in japan - also when i got into irc while there (ergo, my name) - and time was *+*9
#114 [14:01] <DopeGhoti> Face: saved. (:
#115 [14:01] <sugoi> phew
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#117 [14:18] <wilma> Can someone help me ?
#118 [14:18] <WugBot> wilma: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#119 [14:18] <sugoi> wilma: sup
#120 [14:19] <wilma> When I login to server I get a very big lag
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#122 [14:19] <sugoi> wilma: but it works?
#123 [14:19] <sugoi> wilma: lor it times out and you never play?
#124 [14:19] <wilma> example I write . and everyone else see's only about 1min later
#125 [14:19] <wilma> I played
#126 [14:19] <sugoi> heh, ouch
#127 [14:19] <wilma> but nothing before
#128 [14:20] <Wug> have you tried updating your network adapter
#129 [14:20] <wilma> well no
#130 [14:20] <sugoi> wilma: is the server distant?
#131 [14:20] <wilma> no, in my city
#132 [14:21] <wilma> well about 9km
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#134 [14:22] <sugoi> wilma: try a speed test of your bandwidth
#135 [14:22] <sugoi> http://speakeasy.net/speedtest/ or http://www.speedtest.net/
#136 [14:24] <wilma> Ping 25ms, Download speed 58,96Mbps, Upload speed 29,35Mbps
#137 [14:24] <sugoi> wilma: more than sufficient
#138 [14:24] <sugoi> and, nice, btw :)
#139 [14:25] <sugoi> Wug: how do you send commands (referring to +b) without 'saying' it in channel?
#140 [14:25] <Morrolan> "/mode #channel +b <hostmask>"?
#141 [14:25] <wilma> so what I can do that I won't be laggy
#142 [14:25] <sugoi> Morrolan: ah
#143 [14:25] <Wug> wilma: what OS are you on?
#144 [14:25] <sugoi> Morrolan: i was wondering if he used a bot, like /msg wugbot
#145 [14:25] <wilma> win7
#146 [14:26] <Wug> sugoi: how do you think wugbot does it :/
#147 [14:26] <Wug> or did that never occur to you :|
#148 [14:26] <Wug> wilma: ok. open the start bar and type "device manager" and hit enter
#149 [14:27] <sugoi> :P touche - i'm a total irc noob, didn't know about /mode
#150 [14:27] <wilma> yea
#151 [14:27] <Kealper> 58mbit down 29mbit up? megusta
#152 [14:27] <wilma> what next
#153 [14:27] <Wug> it should show a list, find "network adapter" in the list
#154 [14:27] <wilma> yea
#155 [14:27] <Morrolan> sugoi - If he had used a bot to set it you'd see the bot's name next to the channel mode change. (And, as he mentioned, the bout would have to do it through /mode then)
#156 [14:27] <Wug> right click and pick "update driver"
#157 [14:28] * GreyVulpine blinks
#157 [14:28] <wilma> On network adapter I can't
#158 [14:28] <Wug> ok, click properties then
#159 [14:28] <sugoi> Morrolan: Wug: i guess i thought a separate channel like status or nickserv could receive commands for irc directly, and that 'modes' could be set there without broadcasting
#160 [14:29] <wilma> and nothing
#161 [14:29] <wilma> only name
#162 [14:29] <Wug> oh. hit the plus
#163 [14:29] <Morrolan> You could set it through chanserv but then it'd simply be "chanserv has set mode +b..." :)
#164 [14:29] <sugoi> anyways ... yes, i have a lot to learn about irc :)
#165 [14:29] <Morrolan> I don't think there's a sneaky way to ban someone :D
#166 [14:29] <sugoi> haha
#167 [14:30] <Wug> wilma: you should have "network adapter" and under it there will be another option with an indented name
#168 [14:30] <Wug> wilma: use the channel please
#169 [14:30] <wilma> nope
#170 [14:30] <wilma> can't see
#171 [14:30] <wilma> 'kay
#172 [14:30] <Wug> grab teamviewer and I'll look at it
#173 [14:30] <Wug> :tv6
#174 [14:30] <WugBot> tv6: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/download/version_6x/TeamViewer_Setup.exe
#175 [14:30] <WugBot> tv6: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#176 [14:30] * GreyVulpine sets mode +b M*lan!*@*
#176 [14:30] * GreyVulpine kicks
#176 [14:30] <wilma> see the pm
#177 [14:31] <Wug> I saw it. grab teamviewer
#178 [14:31] * Morrolan pokes Grey*ulpine in the eye
#178 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Ow
#179 [14:32] <Kealper> you poked out his V D:
#180 [14:33] <Morrolan> Ow. D:
#181 [14:33] <Morrolan> It's still on my finger. Eww.
#182 [14:33] * Morrolan shakes it off
#182 [14:33] <sugoi> hahaa
#183 [14:35] * sugoi considers it strange he lurked irc for 8 years and never got into the admin sides of things until #minecrafthelp
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#184 [14:36] * GreyVulpine goes /os raw svsnick sugoi KickMe
#184 [14:38] <Kealper> /os? is that a mirc command? lol
#185 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> operserv
#186 [14:38] <Kealper> OH... jeebus, doop
#187 [14:38] * Kealper just woke up ._.
#187 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> It's.. 2:30pm
#188 [14:38] <sugoi> do i have a sign on my back now?
#189 [14:38] <sugoi> :)
#190 [14:38] <Kealper> yes, yes it is 2:30pm
#191 [14:39] <Kealper> i found stargate sg1 on netflix
#192 [14:39] <sugoi> Kealper: hahaa
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#194 [14:39] <Kealper> it goes without saying... i didn't get to bet until extremely late last night lol
#195 [14:40] <sugoi> sg1 is excusable, unlike when quagmire found the internet
#196 [14:40] <sugoi> i may be the only family guy fan in here...
#197 [14:40] <sugoi> gigity
#198 [14:40] <Kealper> lol
#199 [14:51] <sugoi> Wug: did it work out?
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#201 [14:52] <Wug> it was hamachi
#202 [14:52] <sugoi> haha
#203 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> ?? snapshot
#204 [14:56] <VoxelHead> snapshot: Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w08a/minecraft.jar
#205 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> ??~ snapshot|Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/1_2/minecraft.jar
#206 [14:59] * Morrolan nags about it being a preview and not a snapshot
#206 [14:59] * GreyVulpine kicks Morrolan
#206 [14:59] <Morrolan> Ouch.
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#208 [14:59] * Morrolan limpls away
#208 [14:59] <Morrolan> limps*
#209 [15:00] * NotiCon throws a "How to spell"-book over to Morrolan
#209 [15:00] <CrusaderDeleters_> out.
#210 [15:00] * Morrolan dashes
#210 [15:00] <CrusaderDeleters_> ow*
#211 [15:00] <Morrolan> Actually.
#212 [15:00] * Morrolan picks it up
#212 [15:00] * Morrolan casts a spell of smellyness on NotiCon
#212 [15:01] * NotiCon is immune
#212 [15:01] <sugoi> CrusaderDeleters_: ironic
#213 [15:01] <CrusaderDeleters_> ?
#214 [15:01] <sugoi> your typo in mock
#215 [15:01] <CrusaderDeleters_> hold on
#216 [15:01] <CrusaderDeleters_> hold on
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#219 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Did you really have to rejoin in order to /nick?
#220 [15:03] <CrusaderDeleters> yaeh
#221 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> /ns help regain
#222 [15:06] <Wug> GreyVulpine: I think svsnick is an unreal thing
#223 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: he was probably in #minecraft and not authed.
#224 [15:06] * GreyVulpine uses it in UltimateIRCd
#224 [15:06] <Kealper> svsnick is an atheme services command
#225 [15:07] <Kealper> iirc
#226 [15:07] <Wug> Kealper: svsnick is a server to server message
#227 [15:07] <Wug> hence needing /os raw to send it
#228 [15:07] * sugoi wonders if `irc` really stands for 'i remember correctly', a backronym typifying the general smug nature of its lurkers
#228 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> no, it stands for 'internet relay chat'. _I_IRC, though, does indeed stand for 'if I recall/remember correctly'.
#229 [15:08] * sugoi joke failed
#229 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> it's early in the day.
#230 [15:09] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: emphasis on "really" in "really stands for"
#231 [15:09] <Wug> DopeGhoti: .reload mod_sense_of_humor
#232 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> segmentation fault
#233 [15:09] <sugoi> haha
#234 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> core dumped
#235 [15:09] <Kealper> shit!
#236 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> whoa, nelly
#237 [15:09] <Wug> oops
#238 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> $
#239 [15:09] <Wug> sudo cat /etc/shadow
#240 [15:09] * NotiCon throws the dumped core at Morrolan
#240 [15:10] <Wug> sudo mv /dev/null /dev/derp
#241 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> You are not on the sudoers list. This incident has been reported.
#242 [15:10] <Wug> sudo touch /dev/null
#243 [15:10] <Kealper> screen dopeghoti --server irc.esper.net --port 6667
#244 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> Cannot exec 'dopeghoti' -- no such file or directory.
#245 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> [screen terminated]
#246 [15:10] * Wug boots DopeGhoti in a livecd and sets the setuid bit on /bin/sh
#246 [15:10] <Kealper> Wug: you completely broke everything
#247 [15:11] <Morrolan> Yikes, first a kick, then a book, now a goddamn core. :S
#248 [15:11] <Morrolan> What's next, if you don't mind me asking?
#249 [15:12] * Kealper throws a kitchen sink at Morrolan
#249 [15:12] * GreyVulpine snrks
#249 [15:13] * Morrolan puts on a helmet
#249 [15:13] <sugoi> hahaha
#250 [15:13] <Morrolan> Sure hope that one is worth its money. :/
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#253 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> money?
#254 [15:23] <NotiCon> yes DopeGhoti he pays money for his helmets
#255 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> For _IRC_ helmets?
#256 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> whatever melts eir butter, I guess.
#257 [15:33] <Morrolan> Oh, come on, DopeGhoti.
#258 [15:34] <Morrolan> If you could get everything for free because it's virtual everyone would walk around with his very own Fat Man. ;D
#259 [15:34] <Morrolan> Just imagine the possible mess in here.
#260 [15:34] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
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#267 [16:03] <jay> Hi. May I ask. I have an android tablet with a bought version of minecraft. The tablet has a faulty charge socket so the tablet will need replacing. How can I install minecraft on my new tablet without having to purcase another copy? Thanks
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#269 [16:05] <Magix> o.o
#270 [16:05] <Magix> log in and play?
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#272 [16:07] <peru> <jay> just log in with your username and password and play
#273 [16:08] <jay> so from the minecarft site i just log in...then download again to my new tablet?
#274 [16:08] <Magix> yes
#275 [16:08] <Magix> your account is bound to your account, not your computer
#276 [16:08] <Magix> just like in literally every single online game ever to be created
#277 [16:08] <Magix> in the entire world
#278 [16:10] <jay> oh, ok. many thanks for that. i just assumed it wasnt that simple otherwise one person could download the game to multiple pc's etc
#279 [16:10] <Magix> they can
#280 [16:10] <jay> but thats great. thanks.
#281 [16:10] <Magix> minecraft is incredibly easy to pirate
#282 [16:12] <sugoi> Magix: minecraft is incredibly open to use - so the honest can enjoy 'free software' as in 'freedom'
#283 [16:12] <jay> another question, if i may. on android 2.3, where is the minecraft config saved. by that I mean the things i have built, so i can save these and port to my new tablet, when i get it?
#284 [16:12] <sugoi> security comes at the cost of accessibility, and mc focuses on accessibility
#285 [16:13] <sugoi> jay the things you build are saved in world files
#286 [16:13] <sugoi> jay: for mobile devices, i'm not sure where the local world files are stored
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#288 [16:15] <jay> i have files under mc called - chunks, entities, level,player...but i get "cannot open file" meesage when i try and access any of them
#289 [16:15] <sugoi> jay well they are files known to mc -
#290 [16:15] <jay> wondering if any of those are the files i require to restore the config/things ive built etc
#291 [16:16] <sugoi> jay: i would try and copy all of it
#292 [16:16] <Morrolan> Just backup the whole folder. *shrug*
#293 [16:16] <Morrolan> These files sure do sound like a savefile.
#294 [16:16] <jay> ok, thanks very much ;)
#295 [16:17] <Morrolan> Maybe it's just me but I fail to find any documentation of the android version anywhere. :S
#296 [16:17] <sugoi> i didn't even know ppl were playing mc on android
#297 [16:17] <sugoi> mine surely couldn't handle it
#298 [16:17] <sugoi> and i have an incredible
#299 [16:18] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Pocket_Edition_hardware_performance_(Android)
#300 [16:18] <Morrolan> Seems it runs smooth on quite a number of devices.
#301 [16:18] <sugoi> oh, 'pocket edition' ?
#302 [16:18] <Morrolan> Ah, yea.
#303 [16:18] <Morrolan> Heh, running the normal version might prove difficult indeed.
#304 [16:19] * GreyVulpine snrks
#304 [16:19] <sugoi> my nes emulator is all i need on my phone
#305 [16:19] <sugoi> :)
#306 [16:19] <Morrolan> Your snrks per line ration is getting awfully high, Grey. ;)
#307 [16:19] * sugoi still has his nes
#307 [16:20] <Morrolan> ratio*
#308 [16:20] * GreyVulpine pffts
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#311 [16:32] <Wug> GreyVulpine: I made a farm you would be proud of
#312 [16:32] <Wug> Morrolan: why is ration such a common typo
#313 [16:32] <Wug> probably because of the tendancy to for the suffix -ion
#314 [16:33] <Wug> -tion even
#315 [16:33] <Morrolan> Because it's an existing word I guess, therefore you're used to typing it.
#316 [16:33] <Morrolan> It's the same as "know" and "now". I do that mistake every now and then when tired, even though I do know the difference.
#317 [16:34] <Wug> I do ration a lot
#318 [16:34] <Morrolan> Mhm.
#319 [16:34] <Wug> I think its because my fingers reflexively type the tion
#320 [16:34] <Wug> regardless of whether its supposed to be there
#321 [16:35] <Morrolan> Maybe, yea.
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#325 [16:48] <AtzE_3> Hey can anybody help me out with More Pistons? I make the piston I need, then it disappears (in the craftbench)
#326 [16:50] <Morrolan> You might want to ask in that mod's forum thread, since probably none here is using this specific mod.
#327 [16:52] <sugoi> AtzE_3: are you using a mod?
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#330 [16:56] <AtzE_3> This is in bukkit, I force updated, and then put in More Pistons SSP & SMP and then added the bukkit bit to the craftbukkit jar and it doesnt work
#331 [16:57] <sugoi> :mods >> AtzE_3
#332 [16:57] <sugoi> ;/
#333 [16:57] <sugoi> :mods > AtzE_3
#334 [16:57] <WugBot> AtzE_3: (mods) This channel provides support for the vanilla (unmodded) version of minecraft. If you are having trouble playing one of the first things we'll ask you to do is remove any texture packs or mods.
#335 [16:57] <WugBot> AtzE_3: (mods) Support for bukkit can be found in #bukkit. Most usually come with instructions, make sure you read them. Also, you can try youtube for video tutorials.
#336 [16:57] <sugoi> :)
#337 [16:57] * sugoi considers >> a shift operator, > is 'greater than'
#337 [16:58] <sugoi> Wug: ^ :P
#338 [16:58] <_303> :»
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#340 [16:58] * sugoi slaps _303
#340 [16:58] <Wug> im keeping it the way it is
#341 [16:58] * _303 puts sugoi on pasta
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#342 [16:58] <Wug> so I dont have to type 4 million extra characters to do things
#343 [16:58] <Wug> because 1 == 4 million
#344 [16:59] <sugoi> haha
#345 [16:59] * Wug bakes _303
#345 [16:59] * _303 wakes
#345 [16:59] <Morrolan> Aw. :(
#346 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: > is 'redirect'; >> is 'redirect and append'.
#347 [17:00] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: i was also going to >> is insert operator for ostream
#348 [17:00] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: but yes, bash rules!
#349 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> \m.
#350 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> erm, \m/
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#356 [17:19] <loganizedlink> when will 1.2 come out?
#357 [17:20] <sugoi> loganizedlink: it is
#358 [17:22] <NotiCon> no a preview is out
#359 [17:22] <sugoi> loganizedlink: ok, i thought ppl here said it was..but looking for proof
#360 [17:22] <Morrolan> Should get released tomorrow.
#361 [17:22] <Morrolan> www.mojang.com has an article about it.
#362 [17:22] <Morrolan> Well, more like two lines, but still.
#363 [17:23] <sugoi> aaah, i think i got derp'd by wug's derp
#364 [17:23] <sugoi> http://notch.tumblr.com/post/2730532961/minecraft-beta-1-2
#365 [17:24] <Morrolan> Haha.
#366 [17:24] * sugoi reads the post date, 1-13-2011
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#367 [17:24] <Morrolan> Slap him good. ;D
#368 [17:24] * sugoi slaps Wug
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#369 [17:29] <sugoi> Wug: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TA8oQsHqXc&feature=related
#370 [17:40] <sabesto> hm, been trying to find a stronghold with the eye of ender, doesnt seem like it works
#371 [17:41] <sabesto> installed and x-ray mod to check the area and there is no stronghold in like 200 blocks radius from where the eye sent me
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#373 [17:43] <sabesto> is this a known bug?
#374 [17:44] <blink> >:|
#375 [17:44] <blink> Damnit
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#377 [17:54] <sugoi> sabesto: what happens when you right click the eye of ender?
#378 [17:55] <sabesto> flies in one direction, then lands
#379 [17:55] <sabesto> i followed it untill it sent me back the same direction
#380 [17:55] <sugoi> sabesto: now that's just rude
#381 [17:56] <sabesto> then dug down and found a cave system ive already explored
#382 [17:56] <sabesto> then i installed x-ray and checked the surroundings, found no stronghold
#383 [17:56] <sugoi> sabesto: i bet it was a bug,honestly, i've seen map gen errors about placing strongholds
#384 [17:56] <sugoi> "i've seen" == once
#385 [17:57] <sugoi> i didn't confirm what happened in-game, it was just in the server log
#386 [17:57] <sabesto> yeah, ive had some corrupt chunks
#387 [17:57] <sabesto> fixed it in mcedit
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#389 [18:08] <Magix> sabesto: are you sure it's not a pre-stronghold map?
#390 [18:08] <Magix> if you made the world when strongholds weren't implemented, the eye will just send you into a random place
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#392 [18:09] <sabesto> hmm, its 1.0 i belive
#393 [18:14] * sugoi sniffs his whiteboard marker
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#394 [18:15] <NovaStorm> I ry to get mods but it wont let me
#395 [18:15] <NovaStorm> can someone post their .minecraft file with a mod on it?
#396 [18:16] <NovaStorm> so i can see if it works? if its my issue
#397 [18:16] <NovaStorm> pm me if so
#398 [18:16] <NovaStorm> | | |
#399 [18:16] <NovaStorm> V V V
#400 [18:16] <NovaStorm> please
#401 [18:16] <sugoi> :mods > NovaStorm
#402 [18:16] <WugBot> NovaStorm: (mods) This channel provides support for the vanilla (unmodded) version of minecraft. If you are having trouble playing one of the first things we'll ask you to do is remove any texture packs or mods.
#403 [18:16] <WugBot> NovaStorm: (mods) Support for bukkit can be found in #bukkit. Most usually come with instructions, make sure you read them. Also, you can try youtube for video tutorials.
#404 [18:16] <sugoi> NovaStorm: also, see mcpatcher
#405 [18:16] <NovaStorm> oh k
#406 [18:16] <sugoi> NovaStorm: also, #bukkit
#407 [18:16] <NovaStorm> thanks bro
#408 [18:16] <sugoi> yw, bro
#409 [18:16] <NovaStorm> going to bukkit
#410 [18:16] <NovaStorm> going to bukkit
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#414 [18:25] <sabesto> so i just spent 10 mins looking at the map in mcedit and cant really find any strongholds
#415 [18:26] <sugoi> can you just place a deactivated ender portal with some stone aroudn it? :) via mcedit
#416 [18:26] <sugoi> around*
#417 [18:26] <sugoi> sabesto: i don't know, i haven't tried that with mcedit myself:)
#418 [18:28] <sabesto> well, we where going to start a new map with 1.2 anyway
#419 [18:29] <sabesto> guess fixing those chunk errors deleted the stronghold
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#430 [19:58] <Vault> hey
#431 [19:59] <Vault> is there anything good thatt i can switch between versions with
#432 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Yes, it's called, copy/pasting the minecraft.jar into a different location
#433 [19:59] <Magix> or juust renaming it
#434 [20:00] <Magix> or using mcpatcher so it creates backups of every version
#435 [20:02] <Vault> no i mean so i wouldnt have to keep copypasting
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#437 [20:04] <adsdds> yo homies
#438 [20:04] <adsdds> heard 1.2comming out tomorows
#439 [20:04] <adsdds> true?
#440 [20:04] <Magix> yes
#441 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> That's what we hear
#442 [20:04] <adsdds> huh
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#444 [20:05] <Magix> http://www.mojang.com/2012/02/minecraft-1-2-preview/
#445 [20:05] <adsdds> hey grey do you even play minecraft
#446 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#447 [20:05] <adsdds> why
#448 [20:06] <adsdds> does mojang even pay you guys?
#449 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Erm, no.
#450 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Mojang doesn't pay us a cent
#451 [20:06] <mickster04> what would they pay for? chan opping?
#452 [20:06] <oldtopman> I wish.
#453 [20:06] <mickster04> 0.o
#454 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> They don't pay us for anything
#455 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> We see zero financial involvement from Mojang.
#456 [20:07] <Magix> from what I understand this is just community driven minecraft channels that mojang slapped an "official" sticker on 'cause why not
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#458 [20:08] <adsdds> so why do u do this?
#459 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Why do people do altrustic things?
#460 [20:08] <Magix> do what? idle in a channel?
#461 [20:09] <adsdds> run a minecraft help channel
#462 [20:09] <Magix> it's not like they have to actively run it
#463 [20:09] <Magix> sit at a desk and stare at this screen all day
#464 [20:09] <Magix> they literally just have IRC open
#465 [20:09] <Magix> and when someone asks a question, they will answer it if they're around
#466 [20:09] <adsdds> who
#467 [20:09] <mickster04> anyone
#468 [20:09] <adsdds> who are you guys anyway?
#469 [20:09] <mickster04> like most help channels
#470 [20:09] <Magix> we're basically gods
#471 [20:10] <mickster04> I am a dog
#472 [20:10] <Magix> ^
#473 [20:10] <mickster04> on the internet :) but sush
#474 [20:10] <adsdds> cool
#475 [20:10] <adsdds> hey skype
#476 [20:10] <adsdds> i has a random quastion
#477 [20:10] <adsdds> question
#478 [20:10] <mickster04> just ask it
#479 [20:10] <adsdds> i send a skype friend thing and the other person didnt get it
#480 [20:11] <adsdds> and i need it to work so we can play on a server
#481 [20:11] <mickster04> well get them to send you one
#482 [20:11] <adsdds> smart,
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#484 [20:11] <Magix> :l
#485 [20:11] <adsdds> is hamachi safe?
#486 [20:12] <mickster04> ;define himachi
#487 [20:12] <mickster04> hamachi*
#488 [20:12] <adsdds> since i am poor and don't anything i play minecraft on a netbook and get at most 11 fps with simplecraft and optifine
#489 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> ?? fubar/hamachi
#490 [20:12] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
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#492 [20:13] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#493 [20:13] <adsdds> since i am poor and don't anything i play minecraft on a netbook and get at most 11 fps with simplecraft and optifine
#494 [20:13] <adsdds> u jelly?
#495 [20:13] <adsdds> and i have to go deep deep under ground to get that fps or its like 6-5 fps outside
#496 [20:14] <adsdds> so i have to make a farm and stuff underground
#497 [20:14] <adsdds> i play it on the lowest setting possible too so it looks even worse
#498 [20:15] <Magix> brool stoly
#499 [20:15] <adsdds> wat?
#500 [20:15] <adsdds> cool story*
#501 [20:15] <adsdds> dumb butt
#502 [20:15] <adsdds> dace
#503 [20:16] <adsdds> face*
#504 [20:16] <adsdds> whaat?
#505 [20:16] <adsdds> i need to take a sh1t sooo bad right now u dont even know man
#506 [20:17] <adsdds> but i am to interested in watching commentators on youtube playing minecraft
#507 [20:17] <adsdds> i just ate eggs and i feel like soo bad right now feel like i am gonna throw up
#508 [20:18] <adsdds> --------------- knee ---------------->
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#510 [20:19] <Magix> wtf
#511 [20:19] <adsdds> what
#512 [20:19] <adsdds> what's wrong lil guy?
#513 [20:19] <adsdds> u lost?
#514 [20:19] <lemon-rev> adsdds woudl you please try and put your commments on one line at least ?
#515 [20:19] <adsdds> share we can help u
#516 [20:21] <adsdds> my fingers are all greasy from eating sausages and when i type they slip on the enter key
#517 [20:21] <adsdds> sorry
#518 [20:21] <adsdds> i think lemon-rev is mad
#519 [20:22] <adsdds> hey lemon u mad dog?
#520 [20:22] <adsdds> i need to know, its an energy thing
#521 [20:22] <adsdds> i do yoga
#522 [20:22] <adsdds> not
#523 [20:22] <adsdds> got cha
#524 [20:24] <adsdds> i need to wash my bed sheets i think , there like all drenched in urine and feces , like i wipe my butt with them when it is itchy and it has poop on it after
#525 [20:24] <ertyuiop99> adsdds, are you the same guy as yesterday?
#526 [20:24] <adsdds> what guy?
#527 [20:24] <adsdds> i know lots of guys
#528 [20:25] <ertyuiop99> I don't know, he had a name similar to yours
#529 [20:25] <adsdds> yesterday i had a party at my house and i invited like 8 guys and we played monopoly and ate cookies
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#531 [20:28] <sugoi> adsdds: nice party :) - were you the guy that had the older laptop that was running mc very flowly and hot
#532 [20:28] <adsdds> the Mexican family that lives in my basement laundry keeps making noise so sometimes i make this thing with ping pong and foil and it like a smoke bomb
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#534 [20:29] <sugoi> ...
#535 [20:29] <adsdds> laundry room *
#536 [20:30] <adsdds> yeah it works i swear to gosh
#537 [20:30] <ertyuiop99> sugoi, think he's the same?
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#539 [20:31] <adsdds> they pay like sh1t rent but they get the laundry done but most of it gets hanged up on the walls and stuff and used as blankets , they dont get heating down there
#540 [20:31] <adsdds> i am not the same guy what are u talking about
#541 [20:31] <sugoi> adsdds: language, bro
#542 [20:31] <sugoi> adsdds: and, let's keep on topic (i.e. minecraft)
#543 [20:31] <adsdds> minecraft is like so epic
#544 [20:31] <sugoi> indeed it is
#545 [20:32] <Magix> dno, it's pretty underwhelming
#546 [20:32] <Magix> you get to place blocks
#547 [20:32] <mib_zPolarBear> I'm new and trying to get information (from #risucraft) for exploring .class files and learning about modding...
#548 [20:32] <Magix> that's pretty much it
#549 [20:32] <adsdds> one time i joined this server and me and a few others found this town
#550 [20:32] <sugoi> :mods > mib_zPolarBear
#551 [20:32] <WugBot> mib_zPolarBear: (mods) This channel provides support for the vanilla (unmodded) version of minecraft. If you are having trouble playing one of the first things we'll ask you to do is remove any texture packs or mods.
#552 [20:32] <WugBot> mib_zPolarBear: (mods) Support for bukkit can be found in #bukkit. Most usually come with instructions, make sure you read them. Also, you can try youtube for video tutorials.
#553 [20:32] <sugoi> mib_zPolarBear: try #bukkit
#554 [20:33] <ertyuiop99> mib_zPolarBear, what do you need to know about?
#555 [20:33] <adsdds> and then i was bored so i burned it and blamed it on the other guy and he got kick, then they build like a portal thing and i broke it, the guy was stuck there for like an hour, before he figured out he could /spawn command
#556 [20:33] <ertyuiop99> Anyways, you can do almost nothing with .class files. You'll need MCP to decompile and deobfuscate it
#557 [20:33] <ertyuiop99> Anyways, you can do almost nothing with .class files. You'll need MCP to decompile and deobfuscate it
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#559 [20:34] <adsdds> i know right files and stuff totally
#560 [20:34] <adsdds> modding
#561 [20:34] <adsdds> dude i am turning like 5 i think in only 4 months
#562 [20:34] <ertyuiop99> Also, I really suggest you learn Java first. But it's possible without
#563 [20:34] <mib_zPolarBear> I'm loading my first mod (Elevator v2.0) into a clean (MCPatched) 1.1 minecraft. I was curious to look into the .class files to learn from them; I'm a professional programmer and I'm curious :-)
#564 [20:34] <adsdds> i forgot how old i am well kinda
#565 [20:34] <adsdds> stuff
#566 [20:34] <adsdds> pigs
#567 [20:34] <adsdds> and booobes
#568 [20:34] <sugoi> mib_zPolarBear: we don't support modding here
#569 [20:35] <ertyuiop99> I support modding here!
#570 [20:35] <adsdds> we DONT SUPPORT IT
#571 [20:35] <sugoi> adsdds: let's tone it down
#572 [20:35] <ertyuiop99> mib_zPolarBear, what language?
#573 [20:35] <adsdds> STOP BREAKING THE RULES!!!!!!! STOP IT!!!!!!! OH GOD , OADJWIODAJWDIOAJDJDDDD
#574 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> !kb adsdds
#575 [20:35] * GreyBot kicked adsdds from #minecrafthelp (Reason: dsdds :<Kicks:914>)
#576 [20:35] <Magix> shit just got real.
#577 [20:35] <ertyuiop99> Lol
#578 [20:36] <ertyuiop99> Are any of the bots here skybots?
#579 [20:36] <mib_zPolarBear> Sorry, but the forum suggested that information on deobucation of .class files could only be found (somewhere near) here (perhaps #risucraft)
#580 [20:36] <sugoi> sometimes ppl are so weird i don't know how to respond
#581 [20:36] <[L]> Hm?
#582 [20:36] <mib_zPolarBear> deobfucation *
#583 [20:37] <[L]> #risucraft is meant for Modding
#584 [20:37] <mib_zPolarBear> (cant spell)
#585 [20:37] <[L]> So it 'might' go there.
#586 [20:37] <ertyuiop99> mib_zPolarBear, you're not going to get good advice at #risucraft. Trust me, you won't
#587 [20:37] <sugoi> mib_zPolarBear: deobfuscation
#588 [20:37] <ertyuiop99> [L], it's mainly offtopic these days
#589 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Can always try #mcp-modding
#590 [20:37] <mib_zPolarBear> ty
#591 [20:37] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: 'p' ?
#592 [20:37] <ertyuiop99> mcp-modding is a better idea, mib_zPolarBear
#593 [20:37] <mib_zPolarBear> How do I change channels, I tried /join #risucraft and got a banned notice...
#594 [20:38] * sugoi snickers
#594 [20:38] <ertyuiop99> Because you're on mibbit :P
#595 [20:38] <mib_zPolarBear> I dont want to get banned from mcp-modding
#596 [20:38] <mib_zPolarBear> ok...:)
#597 [20:38] <ertyuiop99> Join #risucraft with something other than mibbit
#598 [20:38] <mib_zPolarBear> suggestions? for alternate to mibbit for mac
#599 [20:39] <ertyuiop99> Also, I believe mcp-modding allows mibbiters
#600 [20:39] <sugoi> mibbiters
#601 [20:39] <sugoi> that's fun to say
#602 [20:39] <ertyuiop99> mib_zPolarBear, you're a professional programmer?
#603 [20:39] <ertyuiop99> ikr
#604 [20:39] <ertyuiop99> mibbit
#605 [20:39] <ertyuiop99> mibbiters
#606 [20:39] <mib_zPolarBear> yes, 25+ years
#607 [20:40] <ertyuiop99> In what?
#608 [20:40] <mib_zPolarBear> a dozen asm languages and 4 or 5 high level languages; "embedded systems engineer"
#609 [20:41] <ertyuiop99> No java experience? c#? c++?
#610 [20:41] <mib_zPolarBear> Not much C pound other than JScript .net and reading/decoding Java on web pages.
#611 [20:42] <mib_zPolarBear> C++ plenty
#612 [20:42] * sugoi is a c pounder
#612 [20:42] <ertyuiop99> Thats...helpful
#613 [20:42] <mib_zPolarBear> c, c++ fortran DB and can read just about anything
#614 [20:43] <mib_zPolarBear> I also to Verilog and VHDL, but that's hardware languages
#615 [20:43] <mib_zPolarBear> do*
#616 [20:43] <mib_zPolarBear> (still can't spel...:(
#617 [20:45] <mib_zPolarBear> I've programmed on Ataris, Amigas and 16 bit processors to main frames and DB servers.
#618 [20:45] <ertyuiop99> Well, since you're familiar with those languages, learning java won't be too hard
#619 [20:45] <mib_zPolarBear> Hope not :)
#620 [20:46] <mib_zPolarBear> Its always the set up and the mechanics that sticks you for the first week...
#621 [20:47] <mib_zPolarBear> I had XCode installed on my previous machine, then burned it up playing WOW... ^_^ Haven't reinstalled...would it be of any help?
#622 [20:48] <ertyuiop99> Nope
#623 [20:48] <ertyuiop99> Windows?
#624 [20:49] <mib_zPolarBear> I have boot camp, but I work in Windowz all day and like to stay as far from it at home as possible... :)
#625 [20:49] <ertyuiop99> Your best bet for a good setup is using either notepad++ or Eclipse(I suggest this one)
#626 [20:50] <mib_zPolarBear> We're converting to Eclipse at work, so I may as well dive in...
#627 [20:50] <ertyuiop99> Yup
#628 [20:50] <ertyuiop99> I'm not as professional as you, but I know a good amount of python and and okay amount of java
#629 [20:51] <mib_zPolarBear> But that only give me a good editor; I'm trying to open a .class and need help there ... perhaps mcp-modding is best for that?
#630 [20:51] <mib_zPolarBear> Compiled Py?
#631 [20:51] <mib_zPolarBear> Maybe you could help us fix Meld Lol :)
#632 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> See eclipse for an IDE
#633 [20:52] <sugoi> mib_zPolarBear: .class files are byte code (i.e. compiled to jvm-terms)
#634 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Or netbeans, if that's your thing
#635 [20:52] <sugoi> mib_zPolarBear: you can decompile them, but it'll be in obfuscated form
#636 [20:52] <mib_zPolarBear> (I like mibbitters too; it is fun to say)
#637 [20:52] <sugoi> mib_zPolarBear: i would point you to use the craftbukkit server and learn to code to their api
#638 [20:53] <ertyuiop99> Oh yeah, mib_zPolarBear: Server or client modding?
#639 [20:53] <sugoi> mib_zPolarBear: bukkit has tons of docs, and a very active community, and an irc channel at @bukkit
#640 [20:53] <mib_zPolarBear> Starting with client.
#641 [20:53] <ertyuiop99> ModLoader?
#642 [20:53] <sugoi> bukkit also has a client api
#643 [20:54] <mib_zPolarBear> Not ModLoaderMP yet (that is required for Vertical Redstone), but MCPatcher has some Mod loading feature I think
#644 [20:54] <sugoi> -- or is spoutcraft not 'bukkit' official
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#646 [20:54] <ertyuiop99> Nope, spoutcraft is unofficial
#647 [20:54] <mib_zPolarBear> The decompile and deobfuscating is best learned from the craftbukkit folks?
#648 [20:55] <sugoi> mib_zPolarBear: if you program to their api - you won't need to decompile nor deobfuscate anything
#649 [20:55] <ertyuiop99> sugoi, spout?
#650 [20:55] <sugoi> mib_zPolarBear: if you are looking to mod from scratch, you won't be using their api/mods
#651 [20:55] <sugoi> ertyuiop99: ?
#652 [20:56] <ertyuiop99> Are you talking about spout?
#653 [20:56] <sugoi> i don't know what i'm talking about :) i only dabble in a few bukkit mods, but no client mods
#654 [20:56] <mib_zPolarBear> I rarely step into something new 'from scratch' I find it much better to read other code and modify it to see why they did what they did...then start scratching :)
#655 [20:56] * GreyVulpine pokes at: http://mcp.ocean-labs.de/index.php/MCP_Releases
#655 [20:57] <ertyuiop99> mib_zPolarBear, download that ^ and eclipse(find it with google)
#656 [20:57] <ertyuiop99> Bukkit just joined Mojang..
#657 [20:58] <mib_zPolarBear> Ok. I'll start with MCP_Releases and eclipse...
#658 [20:58] <mib_zPolarBear> Thanks.
#659 [20:58] <mib_zPolarBear> I may check out mcp-modding if they don't mind mibbitters ;)
#660 [20:58] <ertyuiop99> Also, modloader is a nice little API that improves compatibility with all mods. I really suggest you add that into the jar before you decompile
#661 [20:59] <ertyuiop99> ModLoader adds a ton of methods and hooks that allow you to add blocks and items without overriding other blocks and items
#662 [20:59] <mib_zPolarBear> Is that the ModLoaderMP that djoslin of vertical redstone is referring?
#663 [21:00] <ertyuiop99> ModLoaderMP is for multiplayer, and isn't made by Risugami.
#664 [21:01] <mib_zPolarBear> It looked like Vertical was calling modloader apis...; I should look at ModLoader by Risugami then?
#665 [21:01] <ertyuiop99> Yes
#666 [21:01] <ertyuiop99> ?ml
#667 [21:01] <mib_zPolarBear> Ok, I've got work to do... TY
#668 [21:01] <ertyuiop99> GreyVulpine, any specific reason why there is no crow here?
#669 [21:01] <ertyuiop99> I love her
#670 [21:02] <ertyuiop99> mib_zPolarBear, http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1033221-
#671 [21:02] <ertyuiop99> My mod page :P
#672 [21:02] <mib_zPolarBear> got it =)
#673 [21:03] <mib_zPolarBear> (Revived even...hehe)
#674 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> ertyuiop99 - never had a need for crow.
#675 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> We also have half a dozen bots in here already
#676 [21:03] <mib_zPolarBear> (oh, I've eaten crow before...)
#677 [21:04] <ertyuiop99> lol
#678 [21:05] <ertyuiop99> GreyVulpine, ah. Okay
#679 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> If there's a function you think this channel needs, I'm sure either myself, or the other bot owners in here can whip up a quick one
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#682 [21:43] <|Kiikun|> or if the bot owners arnt aroudn and i am, i can botify myself some more :3
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#684 [21:49] <rtomson> Hello, I need help activating my daughters account, the original activation email did not come through and I can't get it to resend.
#685 [21:50] <|Kiikun|> rtomson: you mean for the migrated account? theres a 'resend validation email' link in login
#686 [21:50] <rtomson> Yes, I tried that and it says it has recently sent an email. Is there a waiting period for it to resend?
#687 [21:52] <|Kiikun|> im not 100% sure.. but there might be a time limit to prevent people from just spamming it. how long ago was the last time you tried?
#688 [21:53] <rtomson> I tried to set her up 2 hours ago. I was able to set myself up fine. Does she need a separate account or can I add her login to mine?
#689 [21:53] <andrewxios> have you checked that you didnt make any typos?
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#691 [21:54] <rtomson> andrewxios: yes, I triple checked that and sent a test email to the account from gmail and I received that fine.
#692 [21:55] <|Kiikun|> rtomson: you cant tie multiple accounts together. when you buy the game your buyign premium status on the account. that allows that account to log in,download the game files, and be able to play the full version of the game.
#693 [21:56] <|Kiikun|> you can use that account on any number of comupters (i play at home, from a portable drive, on laptop, and at GFs all on same account)
#694 [21:56] <rtomson> KiiKun: O.k. That is what I thought which is why I made her a separate account as we want to be able to play together.
#695 [22:00] <rtomson> I don't suppose anyone has access to force a resend of the verification email?
#696 [22:00] <|Kiikun|> nope. we're community support and dont have access to anything that isnt publicly accessible :P
#697 [22:01] <rtomson> o.k. I will try it again tomorrow. Thanks for the help.
#698 [22:01] <|Kiikun|> rtomson: no prob and good luck
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#701 [22:15] <bejoe905> Can someone suggest a possible fix to severe framerate lag near flowing water?
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#703 [22:18] <andrewxios> whats is your overal fps on areas without flowing water?
#704 [22:18] <bejoe905> depending on my settings, anywhere from 20 to 55
#705 [22:18] <bejoe905> currently, with everything dumbed down, im getting 50+
#706 [22:19] <bejoe905> but near running water, id be lucky to get 10
#707 [22:21] <andrewxios> what are you playing on?
#708 [22:21] <bejoe905> im playing multiplayer
#709 [22:21] <bejoe905> on my laptop
#710 [22:21] <bejoe905> ill pastebin a dxdiag
#711 [22:21] <andrewxios> ok
#712 [22:22] <bejoe905> i did this yesterday, so nothing should have changed
#713 [22:22] <bejoe905> http://pastebin.com/JjrcqaEY
#714 [22:23] <andrewxios> i see no problem at all, have you tried to delete minecraft and redownload it?
#715 [22:24] <bejoe905> ive done it so many times, and no change at all.
#716 [22:24] <andrewxios> have you checked for the latest graphics drivers?
#717 [22:25] <bejoe905> they havent updated in a while, but ill check
#718 [22:31] <bejoe905> updating now
#719 [22:35] * sugoi slips a switch in |Kiikun|'s back, bot enabled
#719 [22:35] <|Kiikun|> Beep.
#720 [22:35] * sugoi unslips the switch, and then actually flips* it
#720 [22:36] * GreyVulpine aims TV remote at |Kiikun|, presses random buttons
#720 [22:36] <sugoi> Attack GreyVulpine > |Kiikun|Bot
#721 [22:36] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: I am sorry. I do not have an RF input.
#722 [22:37] * |KiiBot| flails arms pointlessly at GreyVulpine
#722 [22:37] <|KiiBot|> Attack failed.
#723 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> !grey on
#724 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> !fart |KiiBot|
#725 [22:37] <sugoi> hah
#726 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#727 [22:38] * |KiiBot| is now playing: Chuckle Track 3.wav
#727 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> !grey off
#728 [22:39] * GreyVulpine pokes greybot
#728 [22:39] * GreyVulpine nods
#728 [22:39] <|KiiBot|> ok... so i take it whitelist isnt saved until the server is shut down?
#729 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> /whitelist reload?
#730 [22:39] <|KiiBot|> yes. did that. whitelist 'cleared' <.<
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#732 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> Whoops
#733 [22:40] <|KiiBot|> indeed....
#734 [22:40] <|KiiBot|> though not like it was enabled..
#735 [22:43] <|KiiBot|> riiiight....
#736 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> !grey on
#737 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> !say Moo
#738 [22:45] <GreyBot> Moo
#739 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> !grey off
#740 [22:45] <sugoi> yay!
#741 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Pfft. Archaic piece of authentication that I never got around to updating.
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#745 [23:01] <langkid1> uh oh
#746 [23:01] <langkid1> we're in trouble!
#747 [23:01] <bejoe905> mods are gone, post ponies
#748 [23:01] <|Kiikun|> Wug: save us!
#749 [23:02] <|Kiikun|> :P
#750 [23:02] <|Kiikun|> bejoe905: um... no.
#751 [23:02] <bejoe905> jk
#752 [23:02] <|Kiikun|> i mean the mods arnt gone :P
#753 [23:02] <bejoe905> ik lol
#754 [23:02] <bejoe905> mods are never gone her
#755 [23:03] <|Kiikun|> ;dq IHavDaPawaa!ToMute@Random.Ppl
#756 [23:03] <|Kiikun|> :P
#757 [23:04] * [L] kicked bejoe905 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ejoe905 :Mods are here, scatter like cockroaches)
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#759 [23:04] <|Kiikun|> lol hi L
#760 [23:04] <bejoe905> lol
#761 [23:04] <[L]> And this is why I don't say anything.
#762 [23:04] <bejoe905> >.>
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#765 [23:05] <|Kiikun|> wb GreyVulpine
#766 [23:06] <|Kiikun|> yo missed it. [L] spoke! :P
#767 [23:06] * GreyVulpine rawrs
#767 [23:06] <bejoe905> he kicked me, thwn spoke.
#768 [23:07] * blink tackles [L]
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#769 [23:08] <tyteen4a03> Iguana: hi
#770 [23:10] <|Kiikun|> ;search lwjgl
#771 [23:10] <WugBot> Matches for "lwjgl": lwjgl/update
#772 [23:10] <|Kiikun|> :lwjgl/update }} raiderguy
#773 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> >
#774 [23:11] <|Kiikun|> by msg
#775 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> Ah, ignore me then
#776 [23:11] <|Kiikun|> :lwjgl/update }} |Kiikun|
#777 [23:11] <|Kiikun|> yep that was it
#778 [23:11] <bejoe905> well, returning to my problem of terrible framerate lag near running water...
#779 [23:11] <bejoe905> updating the vid drivers did nothing
#780 [23:14] <bejoe905> anyone else have a suggestion? I'm pulling ~60fps on fast gfx normally, but that drops to ~6fps near the waterfall in the pvp arena on the server i play on.
#781 [23:14] <bejoe905> I just updated my gfx drivers, and it did nothing to help.
#782 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure it's flowing water that's doing this, and not something else? Could you test in SSP? Another server?
#783 [23:16] <bejoe905> i dont know of any other server that has an arena of that scale, but i can try to test it on another ine
#784 [23:16] <bejoe905> rather, flowing water like that
#785 [23:20] <bejoe905> attempting to recreate in SSP atm
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#787 [23:24] <bejoe905> couldn't reproduce in SSP creative, even sif=tting in the middle of the water, i got no lower than 37fps
#788 [23:24] <bejoe905> about to try in survival
#789 [23:29] <|Kiikun|> it might be something near the waterfall but out of sight
#790 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Only other things I can guess it might be, are tons of redstone, or corrupt chunks
#791 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> Active redstone can take quite a performance hit.
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#793 [23:31] <bejoe905> i dont think its redstone, but i can ask
#794 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> I don't recall flowing water being a huge cpu hit, is why I'm asking
#795 [23:32] <sugoi> flowing water hits the server more than the client
#796 [23:32] <sugoi> water movement updates are chunk updates
#797 [23:32] <sugoi> it's not a cpu thing at all for the client
#798 [23:33] <sugoi> and water flow that has completed will have no 'cost'
#799 [23:33] <bejoe905> well, its definitely not a sevrer issue, its got 16GB on a dedicated machine
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#804 [23:52] <bejoe905> there isnt a ton of redstone there...
#805 [23:53] <nipper> GreyVulpine it can be if there is alot of it.
#806 [23:53] <bejoe905> afaict, the only redstone there is on the 4 sides controlling pistons that drop you down
#807 [23:53] <nipper> you using craftbukkit?
#808 [23:53] <bejoe905> yeah
#809 [23:54] <nipper> worldedit?
#810 [23:54] <bejoe905> not often
#811 [23:54] <nipper> but the plugin is on the server correct?
#812 [23:54] <bejoe905> yeah
#813 [23:54] <nipper> type /stoplag see if it solves it.
#814 [23:54] <bejoe905> i dont have worldedit access, only leadmods do
#815 [23:54] <nipper> This will tell you if its due to flows or something along that lines.
#816 [23:56] <bejoe905> no access to the command
#817 [23:56] <nipper> Well is your computer lagging out or is it the server thats lagging out?
#818 [23:56] <nipper> does your client freeze up?
#819 [23:56] <bejoe905> its my computer
#820 [23:56] <nipper> install opifine mod and tweek the settings.
#821 [23:57] <nipper> you can sometimes solve clinet lag with it.
#822 [23:57] <bejoe905> :/ i already have 3 mods installed, im not too fond of installing more than that
#823 [23:57] <bejoe905> but ill try
#824 [23:57] <nipper> Its worth installing as it helps with video settigns and diabling somethings to give better preformence out of your client.
#825 [23:58] <bejoe905> alright
#826 [23:59] <bejoe905> im onna force update first, to see if its my mods causing the lag