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#2 [00:01] <bejoe905> i dont think it was my mods, with a vanilla install, it didnt fare much better
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#4 [00:04] <bejoe905> yeah, the mods i had werent doing much fps-wise.
#5 [00:04] <bejoe905> now, im pulling 9fps near the problem area
#6 [00:05] <bejoe905> with an average of 70 at my house
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#9 [00:13] <bejoe905> optifine seems to help, ill try installing it with my mods
#10 [00:18] <bejoe905> nope, with my mods and optifine tweaked for max performance, i still pull 8fps :/
#11 [00:20] <nipper> Then I would have to say time for a new computer
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#13 [00:20] <awd> hey can u check if my laptop is good to run minecraft?
#14 [00:20] <bejoe905> lol i cant get a new comp, the one i have ive only had for a year
#15 [00:20] <bejoe905> and im poor, i cant afford one
#16 [00:21] <awd> get a job?
#17 [00:21] <awd> = proffit
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#19 [00:21] <bejoe905> lol the job market in this area is crap, ive been looking for about a year now, and nothing.
#20 [00:22] <awd> what's your profession??
#21 [00:22] <awd> don't have one?? , go to school, train a profession make 28 -100 bucks an hour
#22 [00:22] <awd> = proffit
#23 [00:23] <bejoe905> again, poor.
#24 [00:23] <bejoe905> schooling isnt free.
#25 [00:23] <awd> school doesn't cost money, government pays for most of it.
#26 [00:24] <awd> i am pretty sure you just pay for your books or something
#27 [00:24] <bejoe905> lol here in america, you have to pay on it eventually.
#28 [00:24] <awd> wdf are you talking about , how old are you?
#29 [00:24] <bejoe905> 19
#30 [00:24] <awd> did you finish high school?
#31 [00:24] <bejoe905> no :/
#32 [00:25] <awd> right then , go finish high school , go to college and train a profession not that complicated you cant rely on your moms basement forever kid
#33 [00:25] <bejoe905> LOL i cant rely on my mom at all
#34 [00:25] <bejoe905> thats why i moved out 3 years ago
#35 [00:25] <awd> well there you go.
#36 [00:25] <awd> where do you live your girlfriends house?
#37 [00:25] <bejoe905> >.> yes...
#38 [00:25] <awd> u guys have a baby?
#39 [00:26] <bejoe905> no
#40 [00:26] <bejoe905> i may be stupid, but not that stupid
#41 [00:26] <awd> good, u can still live your life and have a fking relation ship
#42 [00:27] <bejoe905> but in the town i live in, the only open jobs are in truck driving and nursing, neither of which in qualified for.
#43 [00:27] <awd> in most cases money IS happiness in this world weather u wanna believe it or not.
#44 [00:27] <bejoe905> well, i may have nothing to my name, but im pretty happy.
#45 [00:28] <bejoe905> not content, but still happy.
#46 [00:29] <awd> wanna end up living off wellfare waking up in the morning being hypnotized by day time tv, your dreams never happens you been living your your girlfriend for 5 years and there not gonna happen why? your too fucking old and lifes to short
#47 [00:29] * AuBot kicked awd from #minecrafthelp (Reason: wd :Please keep it civil.)
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#49 [00:29] <awd> well i was kicked
#50 [00:30] <awd> anyways , minecraft wont start for me i get a black screen and says i need to update my video card drivers or something
#51 [00:30] <bejoe905> so update your drivers
#52 [00:30] <awd> don't know how
#53 [00:30] <bejoe905> what card do you have?
#54 [00:30] <awd> well i think i arealdy did
#55 [00:30] <awd> nvidia 9100m G
#56 [00:31] <awd> but i did it on my admin account and not on my other account
#57 [00:31] <awd> same computer didnt thing it would metter right?
#58 [00:31] <bejoe905> drivers are universal, not acct specific
#59 [00:31] <awd> right so what's the problem ?
#60 [00:31] <bejoe905> any mods?
#61 [00:31] <awd> nope
#62 [00:32] <bejoe905> hmm... have you tried reinstalling?
#63 [00:32] <awd> didn't get to play it yet worked before but i upgrade to win pro a lil back
#64 [00:32] <awd> nope ill try that right now
#65 [00:32] <awd> can i keep the same launcher? i just deleted the .minecraft folder
#66 [00:33] <bejoe905> yeah,that will work
#67 [00:33] <awd> doesnt metter right/
#68 [00:33] <awd> ok
#69 [00:33] <awd> oh wait i deleted that too before, one sec
#70 [00:33] <bejoe905> k
#71 [00:34] <awd> k its downloading
#72 [00:34] <awd> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#73 [00:34] <awd> what gives?
#74 [00:34] <bejoe905> Hm... are you sure your card supports it
#75 [00:34] <awd> my good sir
#76 [00:34] <awd> played it before
#77 [00:35] <awd> but this laptop is a few years old
#78 [00:35] <bejoe905> odd. have you tried backdating your drivers?
#79 [00:35] <awd> even my notebook that was for like 399 bucks on sale can run minecraft maxed out with server and 5 people on it , true story bro
#80 [00:35] <awd> i think i mma just give up on this peice of crap laptop
#81 [00:36] <bejoe905> what brand is it?
#82 [00:36] <awd> its an acer aspire 7530
#83 [00:36] <bejoe905> it should run no problem, idk what the problem could be.
#84 [00:36] <awd> i am pretty sure it was around 1k when was bought , what a waste of money :(
#85 [00:37] <langkid1> ewww
#86 [00:37] <awd> here take a look at this if u can
#87 [00:37] <langkid1> Curse just screwed up Minecraft Forums more
#88 [00:37] <langkid1> dangit, I thought it couldn't get ANY worse
#89 [00:37] <bejoe905> lol
#90 [00:37] <awd> what's the thing u copy paste into
#91 [00:37] <bejoe905> pastebin
#92 [00:37] * langkid1 hates Curse
#92 [00:37] <awd> give me link
#93 [00:37] <bejoe905> http://www.pastebin.com
#94 [00:37] <awd> want me to do that so u can take a look?
#95 [00:37] <bejoe905> sure
#96 [00:38] <awd> http://pastebin.com/09LdT60E
#97 [00:38] <awd> good luck
#98 [00:39] <awd> if you can manage looking at the specs of this sht with out wanting to tear your eye balls out
#99 [00:39] <bejoe905> lol ive played with worse before
#100 [00:39] <awd> well this thing over heats and gets super hot just browsing
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#102 [00:39] <bejoe905> try doing anything on a desktop with WinXP and 128MB of ram
#103 [00:39] <awd> i am suprised we still even have this
#104 [00:40] <awd> also paied 100 bucks just resently for a a new battery and reinstallation win 7 pro
#105 [00:40] <bejoe905> have you tried using a cooling pad?
#106 [00:40] <awd> nah
#107 [00:40] <bejoe905> my laptop has the same problem, and the pad i have helps a ton
#108 [00:40] <awd> so did u look at the specs?
#109 [00:40] <bejoe905> yeah
#110 [00:40] <bejoe905> not a bad setup
#111 [00:41] <bejoe905> wanna take a look at mine?
#112 [00:41] <awd> is it ok for minecraft?
#113 [00:41] <bejoe905> it should run it no problem
#114 [00:41] <bejoe905> lemme do a little research and see what could cause the problem
#115 [00:41] <awd> why is it being soooooooo bad like before when i played on it with this it was lap spike fest, and overheating shuting off
#116 [00:42] <bejoe905> yeah, when you get it up and running, i suggest getting a cooling pad.
#117 [00:42] <awd> the freeking adapter charger melted this is our like 6th one
#118 [00:42] <langkid1> <jefe323>Just give it some time and you'll get use to the new UI and new functions of 3.2
#119 [00:42] <langkid1> yeah, I will SO get used to that horrible curse bar
#120 [00:43] <awd> fuck it i am taking this out side and pissing on it,then gonna throw it at a homeless person PEECE OUT BITCHES
#121 [00:43] * AuBot kicked awd from #minecrafthelp (Reason: wd :Please keep it civil.)
#122 [00:43] <TheNoodle> wat.
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#124 [00:43] <bejoe905> he just cant hang tight, can he?
#125 [00:44] <bejoe905> im looking up his problem right now
#126 [00:45] <bejoe905> if he comes back, i have a link for him to possibly fix it.
#127 [00:49] <langkid1> lol awd doesn't understand how to join
#128 [00:49] <bejoe905> xD
#129 [00:49] <bejoe905> are you with him irl or something?
#130 [00:50] <langkid1> no...
#131 [00:51] <langkid1> it's clear he doesn't know!
#132 [00:51] <langkid1> he didn't rejoin
#133 [00:51] <langkid1> lol
#134 [00:51] <bejoe905> lol he prolly just got tired of waiting for help
#135 [00:51] <langkid1> bejoe905, most get tired after 1 minute or less
#136 [00:51] <langkid1> dumb n00bs
#137 [00:51] <langkid1> they don't read the topic
#138 [00:51] <langkid1> they just see a textbox and start typing
#139 [00:52] <bejoe905> the only reason i dc right after asking for help is if i realie what i need to do to fix it
#140 [00:52] <bejoe905> and even then i tell ppl that i figured it out
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#143 [01:14] * langkid1 waves to nipper o////////////
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#147 [01:27] <BliND> hello everyone
#148 [01:28] <BliND> anyone have any idea why the bat that we have to make to run a server would close immediately after opening it?
#149 [01:29] <GreyVulpine> Put pause in a second line. The cmd window will stay open with the error
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#151 [01:29] <GreyVulpine> Copy that error here, or if it's long, to pastebin
#152 [01:30] * GreyVulpine bets money on java not being in environment variables.
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#153 [01:31] <smerft> just a question
#154 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> We have answers.
#155 [01:31] <smerft> i'm making a server and adding a website but when i try do it it says
#156 [01:31] <smerft> Says Port 80 TCP Is Closed, but Port 80 UDP Is open, yet, I forwarded both.
#157 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> Adding a website how?
#158 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> The server software doesn't natively support any website tie-in
#159 [01:32] <smerft> i'm making a website for my minecraft server?
#160 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> Okay, using what?
#161 [01:33] <smerft> oh wait, lol nvm my bro said its for wow not mc
#162 [01:34] <smerft> wouldnt it still count tho?
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#164 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea what you're using to run the service, what your network's topology is like, what router you're behind, much less what you've already done.
#165 [01:35] <smerft> i'm using a "Repack"
#166 [01:35] <BliND> GreyVulpine, thanks for the answer. Uh, can't really give you anything because it's not me having the problem it's a friend. Just thought it might have been general knowledge among those with more experience with this sort of stuff. Am definately going to be back tomorrow and have him try that to see if there is an error.
#167 [01:35] <smerft> i have to port it to 80/80
#168 [01:36] <smerft> but it says cant route to host :(
#169 [01:36] <smerft> the server is public but cant let ppl join if website dont work
#170 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> BliND - If you run the .bat file with a pause at the end, the cmd prompt window will stay open. Barring that, you can open a cmd prompt window and type in the server launch line. The window will stay open with the error.
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#172 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> smerft - There could be various reasons why you can't port forward port 80. Your router may not support it. Your router's config page may already be running on port 80. Your computer has a software firewall that is filtering traffic on port 80. The web server you're running, may not actually be running, or may not be listening on port 80.
#173 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell me more about this web server?
#174 [01:39] <smerft> hmm
#175 [01:39] <smerft> i'll give u the link to where i downloaded it can i?
#176 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> Go ahead.
#177 [01:39] <smerft> it shows all the info
#178 [01:39] <smerft> http://www.ac-web.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107225
#179 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> This... is all WoW stuff. It's a repackage of the original WoW server, for use on personal/private servers. Hence, "Repack"
#180 [01:41] <smerft> yeah i kno
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#182 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> I'm not seeing a web server in any of the documentation so far. I see a MySQL batch file...
#183 [01:43] <smerft> 1sec we are using hapachi to start the website
#184 [01:43] <smerft> but it says port 80 tcp is closed but udp is open
#185 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> Hamachi is not a website tool.
#186 [01:43] <smerft> not hamachi
#187 [01:43] <smerft> hapachi
#188 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> hapachi?
#189 [01:44] <smerft> its the program inside the repack that starts the website
#190 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> I have never heard of hapachi. Google's not turning up anything on there.
#191 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> Do you mean Apache?
#192 [01:44] <smerft> oh yea...
#193 [01:45] <smerft> its meant to come with A Blizzlike registration page is included.
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#195 [01:45] <smerft> me and my bro can access it but we cant make it go public
#196 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> You do know all this, is geared towards WoW, not minecraft.
#197 [01:45] <smerft> yeah but i have noone else to turn to QQ
#198 [01:45] <smerft> and u guys have loads of knowledge
#199 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> This is a #minecrafthelp channel, not #wow
#200 [01:46] <smerft> well i couldnt find #wow
#201 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> I can't say I have any experience in WoW. Have never touched it.
#202 [01:46] <smerft> i just need the website to go public lol
#203 [01:46] <smerft> the server is public but the website aint, its driving us insane
#204 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> Why not post in http://www.ac-web.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107225 ?
#205 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> There's 255 pages, it's certainly an active forum.
#206 [01:47] <smerft> i did, no reply since
#207 [01:47] <smerft> i'm 15outland u can read my post its on the last page
#208 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes, I see it. You can't honestly expect people to monitor forums 24/7. Give them a few days to respond
#209 [01:48] <smerft> okay :(
#210 [01:48] <smerft> ty for ur help gray
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#217 [02:18] <Guest93545> hello?
#218 [02:19] <Guest93545> I am wondering if anybody knows any good minecraft server hosts
#219 [02:19] <Guest93545> dedicated
#220 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> allgamer.net, Multiplay.co.uk, xenonservers
#221 [02:27] <Guest93545> $165 for only 4gb of ram is expensive
#222 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> You're not paying for just RAM. You're paying for uptime, the server, the power, the support, the maintenance, and the bandwidth
#223 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> RAM is just something to calculate cost against.
#224 [02:29] <Guest93545> correct me if I am wrong but bandwidth is why most players can't handle a lot of people even if they have like 8gb of ram
#225 [02:29] <Guest93545> right?
#226 [02:29] <Guest93545> I know what both bandwidth and ram are
#227 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> That's one reason, yes.
#228 [02:29] <Guest93545> $169 for even the basic package
#229 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> You're not going to be hosting many people on a residential uplink of 3 megabits.
#230 [02:30] <Guest93545> Of course
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#232 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> What package are you looking at again?
#233 [02:30] <Guest93545> The cheap dedicated package
#234 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> What hoster?
#235 [02:30] <Guest93545> $169 for allgamer
#236 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> Ah, that's a dedicated server. You're paying for the hosting of a full server, not just minecraft.
#237 [02:31] <Guest93545> I don't like shared servers
#238 [02:31] <Guest93545> :\
#239 [02:31] <TheNoodle> Well then be prepared to pay more :)
#240 [02:32] <Guest93545> The dedicated don't come with minecraft apps pre-installed do they?
#241 [02:32] <TheNoodle> I'm sure the support would be happy to help you set them up.
#242 [02:33] <Guest93545> Another thing
#243 [02:33] <TheNoodle> You do pay for the support with AllGamer, and in return it is decent.
#244 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> Guest93545 - They do not. It's your server. It's a full and complete computer.
#245 [02:33] <Guest93545> But they will help me?
#246 [02:33] <Guest93545> right
#247 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> It's up to you, what you want to do with it. You're paying them to host a box in a colocated datacenter
#248 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#249 [02:33] <Guest93545> Another thing
#250 [02:33] <Guest93545> I bought an alpha gift code off of some guy like a week after the alpha event ended for the same price of a normal code
#251 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> I do not work for allgamer, but I do recommend them
#252 [02:34] <Guest93545> How do I know if it was really an alpha code
#253 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> You don't
#254 [02:34] <Guest93545> It was the same price as a normal code so I see no reason for him to scam me
#255 [02:34] <Guest93545> I think xale told me the guy was legit, I forget who did
#256 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> There is currently no way to check the alpha/beta/full status of a code. That's something you'll need to take up with Mojang
#257 [02:34] <Guest93545> It wasn't a loss anyways
#258 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> Email the code to Mojang at: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#259 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> They may or may not be able to tell you
#260 [02:35] <Guest93545> They might ban my account for purchasing a code from somebody other than them too
#261 [02:35] <Guest93545> Right?
#262 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> They will not.
#263 [02:36] <Guest93545> Of course there isn't any real benefit to an alpha code at the moment is there?
#264 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> At the moment, no. There is currently no news of DLC in the pipeline yet
#265 [02:36] <Guest93545> how do I even find my code?
#266 [02:36] <Guest93545> I made an account with it
#267 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> Um, you would've needed to enter in the code at your profile page to redeem it
#268 [02:37] <Guest93545> Yeah
#269 [02:37] <Guest93545> a long time ago
#270 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> Ah. If you don't have the actual code, I don't know if there's any way to check. You may need to just contact Mojang about it and ask.
#271 [02:38] <Guest93545> Ah
#272 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> There was talk in the past about a status checker for gift codes, but I haven't heard anything since.
#273 [02:38] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#273 [02:39] <Guest93545> I am not experienced with servers
#274 [02:39] <Guest93545> Could I host a website from a dedicated server?
#275 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#276 [02:39] <Guest93545> How exactly?
#277 [02:39] <Guest93545> Oh
#278 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> It's a physical, full-featured, box.
#279 [02:39] <Guest93545> too long to explain
#280 [02:40] <Guest93545> They'll help me with everything, right?
#281 [02:40] * TheNoodle nods
#281 [02:40] <Guest93545> A 4gb dedicated should be more than enough for minecraft
#282 [02:40] <Guest93545> I hope
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#284 [02:40] * GreyVulpine prods AG_Clinton or Scott
#284 [02:40] <Guest93545> It will, right?
#285 [02:40] <sugoi> Guest93545: mine ran fine w/ 4gb, i recently upgraded to 8
#286 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> It will
#287 [02:40] <Scott> hm?
#288 [02:40] <Guest93545> I could do 100 players right?
#289 [02:41] <Guest93545> or would I need to upgrade
#290 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> Scott, you still with AG?
#291 [02:41] <Scott> yep
#292 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> Got a guy here, interested in your dedicated box plan.
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#294 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> What can you tell him about hosting a website + minecraft on it?
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#296 [02:41] <Guest93545> I just want to host like a 100 player server and a simple website
#297 [02:41] <Scott> Well, you can do whatever you want on it as long as it's legal.
#298 [02:42] <Guest93545> Would that need the 4gb or 8gb plan?
#299 [02:42] <Scott> There is no magic formula to determine how much RAM for X amount of players.
#300 [02:42] <Guest93545> I'm an idiot
#301 [02:42] <Guest93545> :\
#302 [02:42] <Scott> It depends way on way too many variables.
#303 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> Would you help him set up Apache/IIS on it?
#304 [02:42] <Scott> on way too*
#305 [02:42] <Guest93545> I'm not purchasing one yet
#306 [02:42] <Guest93545> in a few weeks
#307 [02:42] <Scott> Well, apt-get install apache2 isn't that hard
#308 [02:43] <Guest93545> after I get everything set up
#309 [02:44] <Scott> We can setup servers with a webserver/php5/mysql and minecraft already installed on them.
#310 [02:44] <Guest93545> dedicated?
#311 [02:44] <Scott> But you will have do the setup of specific stuff.
#312 [02:44] <Scott> yes
#313 [02:44] <Scott> We can't configure Craftbukkit plugins or other software for you though.
#314 [02:45] <Guest93545> I suck with craftbukkit, I'll just have to figure it out on my own
#315 [02:45] <Guest93545> Isn't there a program that automatically configures it for you?
#316 [02:45] <Scott> No.
#317 [02:45] <Guest93545> Oh
#318 [02:46] <Guest93545> Can you define legal?
#319 [02:46] <Guest93545> Let's say I stored like mp3s or something on there
#320 [02:46] <Guest93545> I wouldn't get reported or anything, right?
#321 [02:46] <Scott> You can't do anything that isn't legal in the United States or the State of Texas.
#322 [02:47] <Guest93545> Will they help you set up a website link?
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#324 [02:48] <Scott> If you don't own the rights to them and you're distributing them, that is illegal and in violation of the terms of service.
#325 [02:48] <Scott> a what?
#326 [02:48] <Guest93545> Sorry
#327 [02:48] <GreyVulpine> Domain name hosting?
#328 [02:48] <Guest93545> I know they won't help you build the website
#329 [02:48] <Scott> A domain?
#330 [02:48] <Scott> like minecraft.net?
#331 [02:48] <Guest93545> I wasn't sure domain was the right word
#332 [02:48] <Guest93545> But yeah
#333 [02:48] <Scott> We offer domain registration and DNS hosting.
#334 [02:48] <Scott> Domains are $15 per year.
#335 [02:49] <Guest93545> Do you offer tools?
#336 [02:50] <Scott> Like what?
#337 [02:50] <Guest93545> For websites
#338 [02:50] <Scott> I don't understand what you're asking.
#339 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#340 [02:50] <Guest93545> I am not very internet-savvy
#341 [02:50] <Guest93545> savy*
#342 [02:50] <Guest93545> website building tools
#343 [02:50] <Scott> No, we don't.
#344 [02:50] <Scott> That is something you would have to get on your own.
#345 [02:51] <Guest93545> Will you guys upgrade craftbukkit for us
#346 [02:51] <Scott> No, you do that yourself.
#347 [02:51] <Scott> It's an unmanaged dedicated server. You're responsible for maintaining and installing software.
#348 [02:51] <Guest93545> oh
#349 [02:52] <Guest93545> Darn
#350 [02:52] <sugoi> [copy+paste] <+Scott> We can setup servers with a webserver/php5/mysql and minecraft already installed on them.
#351 [02:52] <Scott> Yes but we won't maintain them. ;P
#352 [02:52] <sugoi> dang it, wrong line
#353 [02:52] <sugoi> was going for the 'no craftbukkit'
#354 [02:52] <sugoi> <+Scott> We can't configure Craftbukkit plugins or other software for you though
#355 [02:53] <Guest93545> I thought they'd provide the basic craftbukkit
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#357 [02:53] <Guest93545> just not the plugins
#358 [02:53] <Scott> Well it's as simple as using a different .jar file so that's possible.
#359 [02:53] <Scott> But you have to update it yourself.
#360 [02:53] <Guest93545> I thought there was a lot of text files and editing
#361 [02:54] <Guest93545> That's not your expertise though
#362 [02:54] <Scott> There is if you're going to use plugins.
#363 [02:54] <sugoi> Guest93545: that depends on the plugin that you choose to use
#364 [02:54] <Guest93545> Do you have everything configured so you are ready to add plugins?
#365 [02:54] <TheNoodle> Guest26709, you're probably better off purchasing webhosting and a minecraft server from AG instead.
#366 [02:54] <sugoi> Guest93545: every plugin is potentially unique, but the basic idea with bukkit is that there is a plugin's folder, you just drop the plugin jar in that folder and go
#367 [02:55] <Scott> It is more complicated that just adding plugins.
#368 [02:55] <Scott> than just*
#369 [02:55] <Scott> Generally each plugin has to be configured.
#370 [02:55] <Guest93545> I know that
#371 [02:55] <Guest93545> You have it ready for us to add and configure plugins, right?
#372 [02:55] <Scott> Craftbukkit isn't much different from the standard server as far as the basic configuration is concerned.
#373 [02:55] <Scott> It works out of the box for the most part.
#374 [02:55] <Guest93545> Okay
#375 [02:56] <Guest93545> You'll give me help if I need it
#376 [02:56] <Guest93545> right?
#377 [02:56] <Guest93545> Not on configuration for plugins of course
#378 [02:56] <sugoi> that's what i'm saying with 'and go' , you then run the plugin and start configuring it (as most have runtime commands for configuring - also, running them creates the defaults files ... in most cases)
#379 [02:57] <Scott> For the most part, our dedicated server customers maintain their own servers. We almost never touch them.
#380 [02:57] <Scott> It's unmanaged. There is no guarantee of support past the connection, hardware, etc.
#381 [02:57] <Guest93545> I see
#382 [02:58] <Scott> If you're looking for full support, you should check out a company like rackspace.com.
#383 [02:58] <Scott> http://www.rackspace.com/managed_hosting/configurations/
#384 [02:59] <Guest93545> I might just get the basic minecraft package
#385 [02:59] <Guest93545> What does extra ip mean?
#386 [02:59] <Guest93545> Why would you need more than one ip to connect
#387 [02:59] <Scott> You don't.
#388 [02:59] <Scott> It's just offered for advanced users.
#389 [03:00] <Guest93545> This is probably nothing to do with the host
#390 [03:00] <Guest93545> but how do you give the address an alias for connecting
#391 [03:00] <Guest93545> Like say I wanted it to be Guestcraft.org
#392 [03:00] <Scott> you have to register a domain
#393 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> That's a domain name registration. You buy a domain name for 15 bucks a year.
#394 [03:00] <Guest93545> Oh
#395 [03:00] <Guest93545> so I can host a website and both the server on it?
#396 [03:00] <Scott> or you can get yourserver.allgamer.net for free
#397 [03:01] <sugoi> or dynds flavors
#398 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> No. When you buy a domain name, that's all you get, a name
#399 [03:01] <sugoi> dyndns, even
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#401 [03:01] <Guest93545> Yeah I can use that domain to host a website
#402 [03:01] <Guest93545> right?
#403 [03:01] <Scott> You still need hosting of some sort.
#404 [03:01] <Guest93545> Oh
#405 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> You can park it at a hoster like allgamer.net, and have them point your domain name at a service, like a web hosting package
#406 [03:01] <Guest93545> I see
#407 [03:02] <Guest93545> But I can purchase a domain name just for connecting
#408 [03:02] <Guest93545> right?
#409 [03:02] <Scott> yes
#410 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> That all depends on how you purchased the domain name.
#411 [03:02] <Scott> If you buy it with us, you can.
#412 [03:02] <Guest93545> and then I go to a webhost who acts as a thirdparty
#413 [03:02] <Guest93545> right?
#414 [03:02] <Scott> We offer webhosting services too.
#415 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> ^
#416 [03:03] <Guest93545> How much extra is that?
#417 [03:03] <Scott> Depends on the plan
#418 [03:03] <Scott> https://allgamer.net/webhosting/
#419 [03:03] <Guest93545> can a 5gb ram minecraft server with a 50gb hard drive handle a sufficient amount of people?
#420 [03:04] <Scott> The amount of players you can hold depends on the plugins, the world(s), and where the players are at in the world(s).
#421 [03:04] <Guest93545> oh
#422 [03:05] <Guest93545> your webhosting includes tools for building sites
#423 [03:05] <Guest93545> right?
#424 [03:05] <sugoi> Guest93545: if your host provider has an option to upgrade your RAM package without having to get a new 'machine', i'd recommend getting the smallest first, see how it goes, and upgrade from there
#425 [03:05] <Guest93545> Neverind
#426 [03:05] <Guest93545> i already asked that and you said no
#427 [03:05] <Guest93545> Sorry
#428 [03:06] <Scott> No, we don't offer those tools. If you want a "what you see is what you get" editor, I'd suggest looking at tools like Dreamweaver.
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#430 [03:08] <Guest93545> You probably don't get paid enough to deal with guys like me
#431 [03:08] <Guest93545> :P
#432 [03:09] <Scott> I am actually not working. I am getting ready to go to sleep. :P
#433 [03:09] <Guest93545> Oh, sorry
#434 [03:09] <Guest93545> Thanks for helping me
#435 [03:09] <Guest93545> I'll definitely go with allgamer
#436 [03:18] <Guest93545> Oh guys
#437 [03:18] <Guest93545> nevermind
#438 [03:23] <sugoi> Scott: i don't think i was helping, next time i'll let you run ag/hosting questions solo :)
#439 [03:23] * sugoi doesn't mean to be a douche
#439 [03:25] <Grim_Reaper> xales
#440 [03:25] <Grim_Reaper> You there
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#448 [04:16] <blink> anyone know how to use the snapshots?
#449 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> Just place them in your .minecraft/bin/ folder, overwriting the old minecraft.jar
#450 [04:18] <blink> Thanks
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#452 [04:31] <blink> OH!
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#457 [05:47] <blink> anyone else getting "can't connect to minecraft.net" ?
#458 [05:47] <blink> :3
#459 [05:47] <sugoi> !login
#460 [05:47] <blink> probably updating
#461 [05:47] <blink> oh
#462 [05:47] <blink> :(
#463 [05:48] <blink> :\
#464 [05:51] <blink> But is AuBot using the snapshots?
#465 [05:52] <blink> screw it, I'll just wait until the update
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#467 [05:54] <sugoi> blink: i think aubot checks the mc aws
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#497 [08:57] <watnoufrank> !check 195.241.14.150
#498 [08:57] <watnoufrank> nice
#499 [08:57] <watnoufrank> !paid mathijsdejong
#500 [08:58] <watnoufrank> !paid mjb1999
#501 [08:58] <watnoufrank> !paid koertstribos
#502 [08:58] <watnoufrank> !pad Hvarr
#503 [08:58] <watnoufrank> !paid Hvarr
#504 [08:58] <Wug> watnoufrank: you can query aubot
#505 [08:58] <watnoufrank> !paid maz1ydas
#506 [08:58] <watnoufrank> !paid notch
#507 [08:58] <LilLucy> Also please dont spam the paid command
#508 [08:59] <watnoufrank> :p
#509 [08:59] <watnoufrank> it is so fun
#510 [08:59] <LilLucy> ._.
#511 [08:59] <Wug> its floody
#512 [08:59] <LilLucy> ^
#513 [08:59] <watnoufrank> yes it is
#514 [08:59] <watnoufrank> sorry, wug.
#515 [08:59] <watnoufrank> :(
#516 [09:00] <watnoufrank> wug do you know at #bukkit?
#517 [09:00] <LilLucy> Wug only accepts apologies if there is hugs and cookies involved
#518 [09:00] <Wug> watnoufrank: uhh. thats not a sentence?
#519 [09:00] <watnoufrank> sorry do you know an op
#520 [09:00] <watnoufrank> i mean
#521 [09:01] <Wug> if you need to talk to one use /cs info #bukkit and query channel founder
#522 [09:01] <Wug> a channel ounder*
#523 [09:01] <Wug> herp
#524 [09:01] <Wug> or successor I guess, both can help you
#525 [09:02] <watnoufrank> ok thanks
#526 [09:02] <watnoufrank> *Gives Wug a cookie
#527 [09:02] <LilLucy> Or pm the great the higher beings
#528 [09:02] <Wug> LilLucy: the channel founders would be better
#529 [09:03] <LilLucy> higher beings is better wug D: Also I dont mean opers by that
#530 [09:03] <Wug> uhh
#531 [09:03] <LilLucy> I am talking about.. the higher presence in IRC
#532 [09:04] <LilLucy> That only answers to those worthy
#533 [09:04] <Wug> I'm not an op in #bukkit
#534 [09:04] * Wug winks
#534 [09:04] <LilLucy> :3
#535 [09:04] <LilLucy> ;;
#536 [09:06] <LilLucy> ;hug Wug
#537 [09:06] * WugBot hugs Wug
#537 [09:06] <LilLucy> <3
#538 [09:06] <Wug> why are you not called grim reaper
#539 [09:06] <LilLucy> BEcause I decided since people were trolling in minecraft today in pms though
#540 [09:07] <LilLucy> I felt the need to /nick to LilLucy and pretend to be a little girl who kills people who is actually the Grim Reaper thus making it some creepy horror
#541 [09:07] <watnoufrank> ;hug
#542 [09:07] * WugBot hugs
#542 [09:07] <watnoufrank> ;fight
#543 [09:08] <watnoufrank> ;cookie
#544 [09:08] <watnoufrank> haha
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#546 [09:08] <watnoufrank> Wug the Founder cant unban me
#547 [09:08] <Wug> yes he can
#548 [09:08] <Wug> he just wont
#549 [09:08] <LilLucy> A founder has full access to a channel
#550 [09:08] <LilLucy> They can
#551 [09:08] <Wug> why are you banned
#552 [09:09] <LilLucy> If he doesn't want to,then yeah
#553 [09:09] <watnoufrank> but he will not unban me he said
#554 [09:09] <Wug> well then I guess you're stuck banned
#555 [09:09] <Boreeas> Will not != Can not
#556 [09:09] <LilLucy> Oh look it's a Boreeas
#557 [09:09] <watnoufrank> i appoligized really a lot
#558 [09:09] <Boreeas> Oh look, it's me!
#559 [09:09] <Wug> I cant do anything about it
#560 [09:10] <watnoufrank> I will ask him later
#561 [09:10] <Boreeas> 5 seconds later...
#562 [09:10] <watnoufrank> :p
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#565 [09:45] <mib_o7lhmm> !check 195.241.14.150
#566 [09:45] <LovecraftianWug> mib_o7lhmm: pm the bot
#567 [09:46] <mib_o7lhmm> How do i update my bukkit server?
#568 [09:48] <LovecraftianWug> I'd tell you to ask in #bukkit but you're banned
#569 [09:48] <LovecraftianWug> Read the online instructions
#570 [09:49] <mib_o7lhmm> i cant join any server at this moment
#571 [09:49] <Tigger> Thats most likely because alot haven't updated yet
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#573 [09:49] <mib_o7lhmm> ok
#574 [09:50] <uncleninja> will using a 1.1 world in 1.2.2 mess up generation?
#575 [09:52] <mib_o7lhmm> yeah guys my server works again after update
#576 [09:54] <mib_o7lhmm> only warps does not work
#577 [09:55] <mib_o7lhmm> all my plugins do not work yet
#578 [09:55] <Tigger> Thats normal :p
#579 [09:55] <mib_o7lhmm> so i will wait for updates
#580 [09:56] <mib_o7lhmm> do you have to download the updates yourself or does it go automaticlly
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#582 [09:59] <Omen> is there a way to make tunneling between two points easier? I want to attach two different points seperated by a decent amount of distance but unsure of the exact angle and depth needed.
#583 [10:02] <LovecraftianWug> <uncleninja> will using a 1.1 world in 1.2.2 mess up generation?
#584 [10:02] <LovecraftianWug> probably not
#585 [10:02] <LovecraftianWug> Omen: f3 will help you
#586 [10:02] <LovecraftianWug> otherwise, not really
#587 [10:03] <Omen> LovecraftianWug, what is that?
#588 [10:03] <LovecraftianWug> the button f3
#589 [10:03] <Omen> I know, but what does it do
#590 [10:03] <LovecraftianWug> it does a lot of things, including displaying your current coordinates
#591 [10:04] <Omen> Ahh, I didn't notice the coords. Will look at it again, looked like a lot of debug stuff for sure.
#592 [10:04] <LovecraftianWug> thats pretty much what it is :P
#593 [10:05] <LovecraftianWug> it also has the framerate and the direction you are facing
#594 [10:05] <LovecraftianWug> the graph is an indication of what the computer is spending the most time doing
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#597 [10:17] <Omen> LovecraftianWug, Yea.. that was interesting. Ended up digging through a magma bubble
#598 [10:18] <LovecraftianWug> happens :/
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#600 [10:18] <LovecraftianWug> protip: pistons
#601 [10:19] <Omen> pistons?
#602 [10:19] <LovecraftianWug> you can move through lava by using pistons to make a path
#603 [10:19] <Omen> Ahh. I've had the game for about 12hrs so far.
#604 [10:19] <LovecraftianWug> I am going to make them manditory equipment for nether journeys as soon as I have enough to spare
#605 [10:20] <LovecraftianWug> you can use them to push a path forward
#606 [10:20] <LovecraftianWug> I believe that with a little cleverness you can extend a path through any amount of lava safely
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#609 [10:24] <rainbowfeaver> ive tried to download minecraft on brothers account but when i open it with java it wont work
#610 [10:25] <rainbowfeaver> something about the executable bit
#611 [10:25] <rainbowfeaver> i have it working on the other account
#612 [10:26] <rainbowfeaver> as another note i have ubuntu
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#615 [10:39] <LovecraftianWug> rainbowfeaver: ok
#616 [10:40] <LovecraftianWug> these directions are for mac but they're the same for ubuntu as well
#617 [10:40] <LovecraftianWug> ?? mac/permissions
#618 [10:40] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#619 [10:40] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#620 [10:40] <LovecraftianWug> well, not quite the samer
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#622 [10:40] <mib_rpwl90> my multiplayer server wont work after downloading a new minecraft update pease help
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#624 [10:40] <LovecraftianWug> mib_rpwl90: the server has to update too
#625 [10:40] <mib_rpwl90> how do i do that? :/
#626 [10:41] <clarjon1> mib_rpwl90: do you own the server?
#627 [10:41] <mib_rpwl90> yes
#628 [10:41] <LovecraftianWug> rainbowfeaver: open the terminal, cd to the folder with the launcher, then use "chmod +x minecraft.jar"
#629 [10:41] <LovecraftianWug> :server
#630 [10:41] <WugBot> server: You can download the server by clicking the correct link: (For Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe ) (For Linux and OSX: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar )
#631 [10:41] <LovecraftianWug> mib_rpwl90: grab the server from one of those links
#632 [10:41] <LovecraftianWug> and replace the existing server with it
#633 [10:42] <LovecraftianWug> stop the server first, then restart it afterwards
#634 [10:42] <mib_rpwl90> will all the things on the server still be there? like buildings and stuff?
#635 [10:46] <mib_rpwl90> thank you so much guys xD it worked
#636 [10:50] <rainbowfeaver> thanks
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#639 [11:09] <jt> is everyone else having the same server issues with the update.
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#641 [11:15] <Remas> hi
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#643 [11:15] <Remas> if i have a map from 1.0 and i update to 1.2 (and the map converts) will i get the jungle biome or not?
#644 [11:16] <LovecraftianWug> I believe that new areas you explore will have jungle biomes but existing areas will not
#645 [11:17] <Remas> thats what interests me ;) has anyone experimented with that yet?
#646 [11:19] <LovecraftianWug> there isnt really a way to do it without deleting existing areas on the map
#647 [11:19] <LovecraftianWug> it would be risky and destructive
#648 [11:19] <Remas> you are so quiet guys ;D
#649 [11:20] <jt> anyone else having issues connecting to servers after todays update
#650 [11:20] <Remas> yea but if you have a pretty small map and you go explore then will it generate
#651 [11:20] <Remas> @jt i had it
#652 [11:20] <LovecraftianWug> its possible that a program could be written to basically rebiome everything
#653 [11:20] <Remas> @jt i rebooted the server few times and i checked if everything was set properly and it worked.
#654 [11:21] <Remas> @jt try to reboot it and check if everything is set properly
#655 [11:21] <LovecraftianWug> but then of course you would run into issues like "I wanted to put my base in a forest and suddenly everything is made of sand"
#656 [11:21] <jt> is yours bukkit server or venilla
#657 [11:21] <LovecraftianWug> jt: its possible that some servers arent updated yet
#658 [11:21] <LovecraftianWug> quite probably in fact
#659 [11:21] <clarjon1> very probable.
#660 [11:22] <Remas> @jt mine is just a normal 1.2 server from verygames.net
#661 [11:23] <jt> ahh thanks i hope its the same with mine when i get to it
#662 [11:24] <Remas> @jt just try to reboot it few times and let it be for few minutes, thats what i did to my one and after few minutes it showed up
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#665 [11:31] <base3000> I was buying minecraft and its kinda stuck in Downloading package
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#667 [11:32] <Remas> @base3000 which Windows version are you using?
#668 [11:32] <base3000> Windows 7 64bit
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#670 [11:32] <Remas> close minecraft, click on start button and type in %appdata%
#671 [11:33] <Remas> delete the whole .minecraft folder (remember to backup your save files if you have any)
#672 [11:33] <Remas> then right click on minecraft, and run as administrator
#673 [11:33] <Remas> try to log in and let it install
#674 [11:33] <jschuur> I suspect this might be a common problem right now, but I'm having problems with the 1.2 update. I get Minecraft Failed to Update fatal error 4, even after I force an update. Mac OS here, and I redownloaded the new Minecraft launcher
#675 [11:34] <Remas> I've not had that problem and i've got W7 64 bit ;p
#676 [11:34] <mib_o7lhmm> hello guys
#677 [11:34] <jschuur> Is this just a capacity problem on the download servers?
#678 [11:34] <Remas> let us know when you are done so if it fails we can think of something else
#679 [11:34] <mib_o7lhmm> :server
#680 [11:34] <WugBot> server: You can download the server by clicking the correct link: (For Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe ) (For Linux and OSX: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar )
#681 [11:34] <WugBot> server: You can download the server by clicking the correct link: (For Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe ) (For Linux and OSX: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar )
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#683 [11:35] <Remas> hello mib
#684 [11:35] <mib_o7lhmm> hello remas
#685 [11:35] <mib_o7lhmm> !check set 5%glass,95%rock
#686 [11:35] <mib_o7lhmm> oops
#687 [11:35] <mib_o7lhmm> !check 195.241.14.150
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#689 [11:36] <Remas> @jschuur i dont think it is, if it would be the capacity then i dont think you would be able to log on
#690 [11:36] <jschuur> Remas: Has anyone else been here today with the problem I'm describing? Maybe it is something on my end.
#691 [11:36] <jschuur> I'm running this against my unmodded minecraft folder FWIW
#692 [11:37] <Remas> @jschuur and what is your problem?
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#694 [11:37] <jschuur> Minecraft 'Failed to launch' Fatal error occured (4) after I click on 'yes' to update
#695 [11:38] <Dusty> so i noticed the update, an the removal of irc tab on site, anyone else see that?
#696 [11:39] <jschuur> There's this e.g., from a few days ago, even before the update, but no solution http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1033983-failed-to-launch-fatal-error-occured-4-null/
#697 [11:39] <Remas> @jschuur have you tryed to reinstall minecraft completly? (delete .minecraft, but backup your saves)
#698 [11:39] <jschuur> I'll try that...
#699 [11:39] <jschuur> My saves are symlinked to dropbox, so incase I forget to back up, only the symlink is deleted ;)
#700 [11:40] <Dusty> you talking about the black screen when u try to login?
#701 [11:40] <Remas> @try it, im just watching a video about this problem and there is another solution so if this one doesnt work then we will try the other one
#702 [11:40] <Remas> @dusty nope, his problem is Minecraft 'Failed to launch' Fatal error occured (4)
#703 [11:40] <Dusty> oh, well that'd be mine =p
#704 [11:40] <Dusty> figured i'd sit an see if someone else had the same issue b4 asking
#705 [11:41] <Remas> @dusty try the same solution ;p
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#707 [11:41] <Dusty> already did
#708 [11:41] <Dusty> wouldn't be here otherwise =p
#709 [11:41] <Remas> @dusty try to disable anti-virus and firewall and then try to update
#710 [11:41] <Dusty> oh no see, i updated via browser login & play mode
#711 [11:41] <Kryzz> hello, i have a server that i updated to 1.2. i want to generate a new map but keep the players inventory, is there a good way ?
#712 [11:41] <Dusty> after i dumped the folder
#713 [11:41] <jschuur> Remas: I don't think it's that for me. I'm on Mac OS and run neither
#714 [11:42] <Dusty> i'm trying to use the jar loader to play an i keep getting black screened
#715 [11:42] <Remas> @kryzz you need to have a connect to FTP server
#716 [11:42] <Dusty> an to clarify not server mode, play mode
#717 [11:42] <Remas> @kryzz you will find that one of the folder has files with nicknames
#718 [11:42] <Remas> you need to copy it
#719 [11:43] <clarjon1> Kryzz: Be wary when doing this
#720 [11:43] <Remas> yea
#721 [11:43] <clarjon1> Kryzz: Because the players will respawn in the exact positions they were
#722 [11:43] <Kryzz> yes, but then the players will spawn at their current x y z ?
#723 [11:43] <clarjon1> meaning
#724 [11:43] <Kryzz> right, can i change those coords somehow ?
#725 [11:43] <clarjon1> since the world generation is different ( Again! )
#726 [11:43] <clarjon1> with a tool like NBT Edit i believe, yea
#727 [11:43] <Kryzz> this NBT Edit is good then ?
#728 [11:43] <Remas> i guess you could try inv edit and just copy the inventory
#729 [11:44] <clarjon1> mhm
#730 [11:44] <Remas> inventory only ofc
#731 [11:44] <Dusty> so ultimately i just login after the update, the white mojang logo pops up for a flash second an nothing but black forever
#732 [11:44] <Kryzz> meaning ?
#733 [11:44] <jschuur> Hmm. A complete reinstall did do the trick, Remas.
#734 [11:44] <clarjon1> Kryzz: nbtedit will allow you to edit their coords, yes.
#735 [11:44] <clarjon1> manually
#736 [11:44] <Kryzz> cool
#737 [11:44] <Remas> @jschuur im happy about that ;)
#738 [11:45] <Remas> @Dusty my friend had the same thing but his sollution for it was = reinstall the windows completly ;D
#739 [11:45] <Kryzz> i also spent last night copying the msot important parts of my old map (buildings etc) with MCEdit and wanted to paste it into my newly generated 1.2 map
#740 [11:45] <Kryzz> but mcedit doesnt seem to support 1.2...
#741 [11:45] <jschuur> I wonder what the problem as though. Clearly it's not affecting everyone, or there would be a lot more people talking about it
#742 [11:45] <Kryzz> is there a good alternative ?
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#744 [11:45] <LovecraftianWug> mcedit does not support 1.2 yet
#745 [11:45] <Remas> @Kryzz you need to wait for an update for mcedit
#746 [11:45] <LovecraftianWug> wait for it to update
#747 [11:45] <Remas> @Kryzz it might be today or tomorrow
#748 [11:45] <Kryzz> but no-one is working on mcedit as far as i can tell
#749 [11:45] <Remas> @Dusty
#750 [11:46] <LovecraftianWug> mcedit is kept up to date
#751 [11:46] <Dusty> well my windows is only 30 days old from its last install
#752 [11:46] <Dusty> i fail to see how that'd help anything =p
#753 [11:46] <Remas> @Dusty im not sure but im guessing that a COMPLETE reinstallation of java might help, if not that then a framework reinstall or graphics card drivers reinstall
#754 [11:46] <Kryzz> LovecraftianWug you sure ?
#755 [11:46] <Dusty> but then why would it work via web play?
#756 [11:46] <Remas> @Dusty well he had it since he installed the windows ;D
#757 [11:47] <jschuur> I see the new version detects Java 64 bit on Mac OS and I don't have to manually hack that
#758 [11:47] <jschuur> I see the new version detects Java 64 bit on Mac OS and I don't have to manually hack that
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#760 [11:47] <Dusty> see i have to use the jar file from this channel to play on 32 bit
#761 [11:47] <Remas> @Dusty that friend had the same thing, he could play through web but not through the launcher, try reinstalling graphics driver
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#763 [11:48] <Dusty> he's 64 bit tho isn't he?
#764 [11:48] <Dusty> an he's using the normal exe i imagine
#765 [11:48] <Remas> @Dusty nope, he is 32
#766 [11:48] <Remas> @Dusty yea, he is using an exe file
#767 [11:48] <Dusty> i'm not
#768 [11:48] <Dusty> i'm using the jar loader from this channel
#769 [11:48] <Kryzz> can anyone confirm that mcedit is kept up to date?
#770 [11:49] <Dusty> for whatever reason i cannot use any exe version of the game, an am forced to play via jar
#771 [11:49] <Remas> @Kryzz i can, they might update it today or tomorrow
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#773 [11:50] <Remas> @Dusty i dont have any ideas for that then, why are you not able to play via exe version?
#774 [11:50] <Kryzz> thats great news, i browsed the minecraft forums and got the impression that its discontinued
#775 [11:50] <Dusty> at any rate i'm using 6-31 java 32bit, just installed but the video driver i'll look into
#776 [11:50] <Dusty> i've been to this channel ages ago an no one could determine why
#777 [11:51] <Dusty> all we knew was i could only play via jar
#778 [11:51] <Dusty> an we left it at that
#779 [11:51] <Dusty> i kept getting a decline sound when i'd launch exe versions
#780 [11:51] <Dusty> incase u wondered
#781 [11:51] <Remas> @Dusty maybe try again? if not me then one of my mates could probably help
#782 [11:51] <Remas> right
#783 [11:51] <Dusty> already redownloaded them b4 coming here
#784 [11:52] <Dusty> same sound, same result
#785 [11:52] <Dusty> if u have ideas i'd be glad to hear e'm
#786 [11:52] <Dusty> i've already set the memory for java an everything
#787 [11:52] <Remas> @Dusty Windows? Mac?
#788 [11:52] <Dusty> windows xp pro sp3
#789 [11:53] <Dusty> full updates
#790 [11:53] <Dusty> even the bios =p
#791 [11:53] <Dusty> just idk about nvidia atm
#792 [11:53] <Dusty> they've been funny about their updates
#793 [11:53] <Dusty> some work some don't its another topic entirely
#794 [11:53] <Remas> try the following
#795 [11:54] <Remas> go to my documents or my computer
#796 [11:54] <Dusty> -listening-
#797 [11:54] <Remas> and on the top you will see a thing called Tools
#798 [11:54] <Remas> click on that
#799 [11:54] <Remas> then go to folder options
#800 [11:55] <Remas> and once you are there click on the file types tab
#801 [11:55] <Dusty> u talking about showing the protected files an all that? its already shown
#802 [11:55] <Remas> no
#803 [11:55] <Dusty> k
#804 [11:55] <Remas> Before playing with the registry try this first. Open the File Types dialog from any Explorer window -- use My Documents or My Computer (Tools | Folder Options | File Types Tab). Scroll down to where .EXE would be in the alphabetical order and make certain .EXE is not there (if it is, then edit it there by changing the association to Application). Finally, se
#805 [11:55] <Remas> ahh it doesnt paste in
#806 [11:55] <Remas> http://filext.com/faq/broken_exe_association.php
#807 [11:55] <Remas> try it
#808 [11:56] <Dusty> -following, brb-
#809 [11:56] <Remas> kk
#810 [11:58] <Dusty> to clarify executable jar file is not the same as what i'm looking for correct?
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#813 [11:59] <Remas> nope, im talking about .exe version ;p
#814 [11:59] <Dusty> i'm looking for something precisely named ".exe" not "JAR jar executable file"
#815 [11:59] <Dusty> because when i sorted the list to find exe faster
#816 [11:59] <Arimanio> Hi. Anyone know when the XBLA version will be released?
#817 [11:59] <Dusty> thats all i could find matching near that
#818 [12:00] <Remas> hi, not sure.
#819 [12:00] <Remas> ehm
#820 [12:00] <jschuur> I've never been through an update since I started using mods. Is there any chance that any of them might still work, or do I definitely have to wait until each of the mods updates now?
#821 [12:00] <Remas> let me google up for the black screen issue
#822 [12:00] <Remas> @jschuur some of them might work
#823 [12:01] <Dusty> yea on both sides of sort no .exe or just "exe" show up
#824 [12:01] <Dusty> aka void of both
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#826 [12:01] <ilxMine> hiya
#827 [12:02] <Remas> which one are you talkin about?
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#830 [12:02] <Remas> lol ;d
#831 [12:02] <Tigger> Trying to steal what?
#832 [12:02] <Dusty> just saying i couldn't find any variation of exe in the listing
#833 [12:03] <Remas> have you clicked "advanced"?
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#835 [12:04] <Dusty> unless i'm creating a new extension, why?
#836 [12:04] <jschuur> Remas: Kind of a moot point until modloader et al update
#837 [12:04] <Slendermax> Is this a place i could get help with my server?
#838 [12:05] <Dusty> -guessing u meant avanced on exe but there is no exe to do that upon-
#839 [12:05] <Remas> someone might be able to help you slendermax ;p
#840 [12:05] <Remas> anyways do you have teamviewer?
#841 [12:06] <Tigger> !paid TheDeadlyShotz
#842 [12:06] <Dusty> teamviewer?
#843 [12:06] <Tigger> GreyVulpine/Wug/Xales?
#844 [12:06] <Remas> www.teamviewer.com/
#845 [12:06] <Remas> that
#846 [12:06] <Tigger> ;unban TheDeadlyShotz
#847 [12:07] <Tigger> Morrolan|away
#848 [12:07] <Tigger> Or even DopeGhoti
#849 [12:07] <Dusty> nope but avast has its own version of netmeeting
#850 [12:07] <Dusty> although i do have netmeeting =p
#851 [12:07] <Remas> i dont have avast ;p
#852 [12:07] <Dusty> i pray ur not on avg >.<
#853 [12:08] <Dusty> or.. or.. -shakes- norton
#854 [12:08] <Remas> dont worry
#855 [12:08] <Grim_Reaper> ;unban TheDeadlyShotz
#856 [12:08] <Grim_Reaper> meh
#857 [12:08] <Remas> NOD32+MS Essentials
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#860 [12:08] <Grim_Reaper> Kealper you there?
#861 [12:09] <Dusty> i guess its better than norton meh..
#862 [12:09] <Dusty> nod used to have some serious backdoor issues last i saw x-many years ago
#863 [12:09] <Remas> it also depends on if you have paid for it ;p
#864 [12:10] <Dusty> back then it didn't matter wither u did or not =p but i hope its better today for ya
#865 [12:10] <Remas> yea it is
#866 [12:10] <mr_fribble> I have purchased minecraft but payment website timed out. Have not receive any purchase conformations, payment have been validated by my bank, have waited for 60+ hours, but have yet to achieve premium account, please help
#867 [12:10] <Grim_Reaper> Opeth?
#868 [12:11] <Remas> have you paid for premium on minecraft.net
#869 [12:11] <Remas> ?
#870 [12:11] <Opeth> Hi
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#872 [12:11] <mr_fribble> if you are talking about me, then yes
#873 [12:11] <Grim_Reaper> Could you please unban TheDeadlyShotz
#874 [12:11] <Grim_Reaper> He we banned for being thought of stealing mc
#875 [12:11] <Grim_Reaper> But he has actually paid
#876 [12:11] <Grim_Reaper> [19:06] <+Tigger> !paid TheDeadlyShotz
#877 [12:11] <Grim_Reaper> [19:06] <@AuBot> TheDeadlyShotz has paid for Minecraft!
#878 [12:11] <Remas> write to minecraft support
#879 [12:12] <mr_fribble> I did, but no response for the past 3 days or so
#880 [12:12] <Grim_Reaper> How did you pay mr_fribble?
#881 [12:12] <mr_fribble> visa debit card
#882 [12:12] <Grim_Reaper> What is your account username?
#883 [12:12] <mr_fribble> haha438
#884 [12:12] <Grim_Reaper> !paid haha438
#885 [12:12] <mr_fribble> seriously??
#886 [12:13] <Grim_Reaper> Ok I would help help@mojang.com
#887 [12:13] <mr_fribble> how come i have a purchase record for it on my bank account?
#888 [12:13] <Grim_Reaper> Or visit mojang.com and email them from their site
#889 [12:13] <Remas> check for sure that its from mojang
#890 [12:13] <mr_fribble> emailed them last night but i guess i have to update it again
#891 [12:13] <Remas> going back to you Dusty
#892 [12:13] <Grim_Reaper> You'll need to wait about 3 days for a reply I believe
#893 [12:13] <Dusty> so i take it tm is ur only option, no netmeeting? -imagines ur on win7 or such-
#894 [12:13] <Remas> yea im on win7
#895 [12:14] <Dusty> blah.. why they no keep nm >.>
#896 [12:14] <Remas> you can download teamviewer and you dont need to install it
#897 [12:14] <Remas> just run it and choose Run instead of Install ;p
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#899 [12:14] <Dusty> well anyway what ya need to see? j/w
#900 [12:14] <mr_fribble> my bank showed MB*MINECRAFT 02/26....
#901 [12:15] <Remas> wanted to see that exe thing and also have a look over all at what happens
#902 [12:15] <Grim_Reaper> mr_fribble if you've emailed help@mojang.com then you'll just need to wait roughly 3 days for a reply
#903 [12:15] <Grim_Reaper> Other than that, there isn't much you can do
#904 [12:15] <mr_fribble> so should i purchase it again and wait for a refund for the previous one later?
#905 [12:15] <mr_fribble> assuming i wanted to play
#906 [12:15] <Grim_Reaper> No dont purchase again
#907 [12:15] <Grim_Reaper> Wait for a reply from them
#908 [12:15] <mr_fribble> ok thanks
#909 [12:16] <Grim_Reaper> Also just a friendly help guide
#910 [12:16] <Dusty> oh hmm no issues with that, thought perhaps there was something else i could check for u w/o need for tm but lemme go see here
#911 [12:16] <Grim_Reaper> Oh nvm you went
#912 [12:16] <Slendermax> Ok im back... hopeflly i have some useful information... first of all my server has worked up to the point where minecraft.net went down fr maintnence (excuse my spelling please, its horrid) and everything works for it except my ip address, my no ip duc wont even connect (not my bukket nor my orriginal minecraft server)
#913 [12:16] <Grim_Reaper> Slendermax so to put it in one sentence.. You cant connect to the server via your no-ip?
#914 [12:17] <Slendermax> i cant connect to my server via my ip address in general except local host
#915 [12:17] <Grim_Reaper> Where is the server hosted?
#916 [12:17] <Grim_Reaper> On your pc?
#917 [12:18] <Slendermax> its hosted on my mc, yes
#918 [12:18] <Slendermax> mac*
#919 [12:18] <Grim_Reaper> Ok. Im not very good with macs but I'll try help none the less
#920 [12:18] <Grim_Reaper> Errm. Is there a chance any anti viruses and such or maybe blocking connections that aren't local?
#921 [12:18] <Remas> yes
#922 [12:18] <Remas> not anti-virus but firewall
#923 [12:18] <Dusty> u actually paid for tm? thats a substantial hole in ur wallet =p
#924 [12:19] <Dusty> 700+ = >.<
#925 [12:19] <Slendermax> Well i dont like to admit this
#926 [12:19] <Remas> or either ports on your router are not unlocked
#927 [12:19] <Slendermax> but i dont have a firewall/anti virus and my server was working
#928 [12:19] <Grim_Reaper> Ok
#929 [12:19] <Remas> @dusty nope, its free ;p
#930 [12:19] <Grim_Reaper> So only after the update it stopped working?
#931 [12:19] <Slendermax> not the update
#932 [12:20] <Grim_Reaper> Oh the maint
#933 [12:20] <Slendermax> since minecraft forums went down, well thats when i noticed it
#934 [12:20] <Grim_Reaper> Did you perhaps maybe do some changes are your mac?
#935 [12:20] <Slendermax> only changes i made to my mac
#936 [12:21] <Slendermax> some mods for mc and some plugins for bukket that never got used
#937 [12:21] <Grim_Reaper> Ok. Is there any chance your ip changed at all?
#938 [12:22] <Remas> yea
#939 [12:22] <Slendermax> maybe, but my no-ip duc should have changed for it, it auto updates every hour or so
#940 [12:22] <Remas> that might be
#941 [12:22] <Remas> the problem
#942 [12:22] <Grim_Reaper> I see. Well I would double check on that
#943 [12:22] <Grim_Reaper> Also maybe restarting your router might help fix the issue
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#945 [12:23] <Slendermax> ill double check my ip, brb
#946 [12:23] <Grim_Reaper> Also forgive me, but Im not sure if mac has a host file like windows, though I would assume it would. So if that is the case lol, I would check if thats also correct
#947 [12:25] <Slendermax> ok yeh my ip is the same
#948 [12:26] <Grim_Reaper> Ok. The best thing I can suggest is try restarting your router then
#949 [12:26] <Grim_Reaper> Other than that Im not so sure unless somebody else here has any ideas sorry
#950 [12:26] <Slendermax> if that dosnt work, would there be a better place to look for answers?
#951 [12:27] <Grim_Reaper> Not that Im aware of. I mean.. you could try emailing help@mojang I guess.. Or try the minecraft forums. Though unless somebody else here is around who can give some help
#952 [12:27] <Grim_Reaper> Im not too sure
#953 [12:27] <Dusty> sorry about that, new software always needs a good look thru =p
#954 [12:27] <Dusty> can't just throw up anything an let it do w/e ^.^
#955 [12:27] <Remas> np ;p
#956 [12:28] <Slendermax> I tried the minecraft forums, its really slow lol ok.. ill go restart it, thanks forthe help though
#957 [12:28] <Grim_Reaper> No problem. Hope you get it fixed <3
#958 [12:28] <Slendermax> if it does work i guess ill let you know for the future incase someone comes in again lol
#959 [12:29] <Dusty> it should be all setup so ya
#960 [12:29] <Grim_Reaper> :p
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#964 [12:31] <Dusty> whenever ur set =)
#965 [12:33] <Remas> me? ;p
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#967 [12:33] <straylight08> hiya guys, i've just upgraded to 1.2.2 from 1.1 and now when i try to connect to a SMP server, it says "Too long to log in" - is there anything I can do to fix this?
#968 [12:33] <permissionsex264> Hello
#969 [12:33] <clarjon1> straylight08: wait for the server to update to 1.2.2
#970 [12:33] <Grim_Reaper> Straylight..
#971 [12:33] <Dusty> ur the one with the idea rem =p
#972 [12:33] <permissionsex264> Can i get some help please?
#973 [12:33] <Grim_Reaper> As in Straylight from deltaanime?
#974 [12:33] <permissionsex264> Its nothing with permissionex
#975 [12:33] <Remas> is there any way to pm someone?
#976 [12:33] <clarjon1> permissionsex264: we won't know if we can 'till you tell us the problem.
#977 [12:33] <straylight08> its from william gibson :)
#978 [12:33] <Remas> here
#979 [12:33] <Dusty> i think so
#980 [12:33] <permissionsex264> Ok
#981 [12:34] <straylight08> so if i downgrade to 1.1 again will i be able to connect to my server?
#982 [12:34] <permissionsex264> Umm,when i run minecraft,its always laggy.
#983 [12:34] <Remas> a
#984 [12:34] <permissionsex264> And i tryed updating my graphics card
#985 [12:34] <Grim_Reaper> Remas /query namehere msg
#986 [12:34] <permissionsex264> But nothing helped
#987 [12:34] <Dusty> perm - try lowering ur video settings
#988 [12:34] <permissionsex264> So i dont know what to do really
#989 [12:34] <Dusty> inside minecraft
#990 [12:34] <permissionsex264> I did that already
#991 [12:34] <Dusty> not using fancy mode?
#992 [12:34] <permissionsex264> On Tiny,it still laggs
#993 [12:34] <permissionsex264> Nope
#994 [12:34] <permissionsex264> Fast
#995 [12:34] <Dusty> might have to wait for optifine imo
#996 [12:35] <Dusty> i know that solved a few other pc's on my end that had lag issues
#997 [12:35] <permissionsex264> I know
#998 [12:35] <permissionsex264> I used that to
#999 [12:35] <Dusty> but we can't discuss that here i think
#1000 [12:35] <permissionsex264> But,is there any other way,to make my minecraft faster?
#1001 [12:35] <Dusty> other than OF? not that i know of
#1002 [12:35] <permissionsex264> So u cant do anything on your computer self?
#1003 [12:36] <Dusty> all i know is if OF wasn't helping u, an ur settings are at lowest, an ur video card settings are set to speed not quality thats the limit imo
#1004 [12:36] <Dusty> ain't much more u can do than that
#1005 [12:37] <permissionsex264> Well,optifine helps me a lot
#1006 [12:37] <permissionsex264> But its sad that u need to wait so long
#1007 [12:37] <permissionsex264> Before its updated
#1008 [12:39] <permissionsex264> What does your CPU need to be
#1009 [12:39] <permissionsex264> to smoothly run minecraft?
#1010 [12:42] <permissionsex264> One more question,where can i get Minecraft 1.1,because i updated to 1.2
#1011 [12:42] <Morrolan> Use a tool like MCNostalgia.
#1012 [12:42] <permissionsex264> I used that
#1013 [12:43] <permissionsex264> But it wont work
#1014 [12:43] <Morrolan> It might not be updated yet-
#1015 [12:43] <permissionsex264> Hmm
#1016 [12:43] <permissionsex264> Damn
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#1021 [12:49] <ComCain> anyone use craft bukkit?
#1022 [12:50] <Boreeas> ComCain: #bukkit is where you want to go
#1023 [12:50] <ComCain> thx
#1024 [12:50] <mib_7hgpew> hi, every time i access minecraft, i get a hs err pid saying exception violation
#1025 [12:50] <mib_7hgpew> plz help
#1026 [12:51] <Boreeas> mib_7hgpew: You need to reinstall Java
#1027 [12:51] <mib_7hgpew> y tyvm sonny jim its very much appreciated!
#1028 [12:53] <Boreeas> ??> mib_7hgpew win/javara
#1029 [12:53] <VoxelHead> mib_7hgpew: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1030 [12:53] <VoxelHead> mib_7hgpew: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
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#1032 [12:53] <breg> hello
#1033 [12:53] <breg> i need help
#1034 [12:53] <Boreeas> Install it, run it, remove all java installations. Go to http://java.com, download the latest version, mib_7hgpew
#1035 [12:53] <breg> not for that
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#1037 [12:54] <breg> i would like to ask are u planning to release a macedonian version?
#1038 [12:54] <breg> Can i help with it?
#1039 [12:54] <Boreeas> breg: Not directed at youi
#1040 [12:54] <breg> ok
#1041 [12:54] <mib_htc23p> have you heard the nine devines
#1042 [12:54] <Boreeas> breg: You might want to check the forums for a macedonian language pack
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#1044 [12:54] <Boreeas> If not, there are ways to create them yourself
#1045 [12:54] <edmund> ajsh akl
#1046 [12:55] <edmund> lap kal
#1047 [12:55] <Boreeas> I agree, edmund
#1048 [12:55] <edmund> oh
#1049 [12:55] <Boreeas> !kick edmund I can speak swedish, too
#1050 [12:55] * AuBot kicked edmund from #minecrafthelp (Reason: dmund :You are the weakest link, goodbye! (Issued by Boreeas with reason: I can speak swedish, too))
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#1053 [12:56] <edmund> :O
#1054 [12:56] <edmund> :O
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#1056 [12:56] <BliND> is therea modding channel or can someone help in here?
#1057 [12:56] <PaperTiiger> I'm having issues with graphics. I keep getting an error saying 'bad video card drivers' when I try load the game
#1058 [12:57] <mib_htc23p> i will help you with that
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#1060 [12:57] <Boreeas> BliND: Check #mcp-modding
#1061 [12:57] <BliND> talking to me or PaperTiiger
#1062 [12:57] <mib_htc23p> i used to have that but all you gotta do is
#1063 [12:57] <mib_htc23p> java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame pause
#1064 [12:57] <Boreeas> ??> PaperTiiger win/dxdiag
#1065 [12:57] <VoxelHead> PaperTiiger: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1066 [12:57] <VoxelHead> PaperTiiger: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1067 [12:57] <BliND> thx Boreeas
#1068 [12:58] <PaperTiiger> It's worked before, but then I reinstalled Windows 7. I have installed the graphics drivers
#1069 [12:58] <mib_htc23p> type that into notepad and save it as a batch file
#1070 [12:58] <Boreeas> PaperTiiger: Please do what VoxelHead said
#1071 [12:58] <PaperTiiger> Doing now
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#1073 [12:59] <mib_htc23p> or what i said
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#1075 [12:59] <Boreeas> mib_htc23p: That's not going to help
#1076 [12:59] <edmund> aj ksahi
#1077 [12:59] <Boreeas> !kick edmund Q.Q
#1078 [12:59] * AuBot kicked edmund from #minecrafthelp (Reason: dmund :Don't let the door hit ya where the dogs should have bit ya! (Issued by Boreeas with reason: Q.Q))
#1079 [13:00] <mib_htc23p> it will worked with me
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#1081 [13:00] <PaperTiiger> http://pastebin.com/Wer00NDX
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#1083 [13:00] <edmund> zn, nalk
#1084 [13:01] <Boreeas> What it does is fixing the heap size to 256 MB and passing "pause" as a parameter to th Launcher
#1085 [13:01] <edmund> das sa
#1086 [13:01] <Boreeas> edmund: Cut it out, now
#1087 [13:01] <edmund> sada
#1088 [13:01] <mib_htc23p> still will work
#1089 [13:01] <Boreeas> For you, not for everyone, mib_htc23p
#1090 [13:02] <mib_htc23p> damn
#1091 [13:02] <mib_htc23p> may work though
#1092 [13:02] <edmund> dsfr
#1093 [13:02] <PaperTiiger> What's up?
#1094 [13:03] * Morrolan taps edmund on the shoulder
#1094 [13:03] <Morrolan> Preferred langauge in here is English.
#1095 [13:03] <Morrolan> 'specially since what you said didn't seem to be too nice.
#1096 [13:03] <Boreeas> PaperTiiger: One second
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#1098 [13:04] <PaperTiiger> Okay
#1099 [13:04] <edmund> (angry)
#1100 [13:04] <edmund> nJKH jkah
#1101 [13:04] <Morrolan> *sigh*, Boreeas?
#1102 [13:04] <mr_pants> Hello! I have one quick question. On the new 1.2.2 minecraft update, will I have to create a new world to see the changes?
#1103 [13:04] <permissionsex264> Yrue
#1104 [13:04] <edmund> (angry) asg ahg ja
#1105 [13:04] <permissionsex264> No,u dont.
#1106 [13:04] <permissionsex264> It will update it :)
#1107 [13:04] <mr_pants> ooh thank goodness!
#1108 [13:04] <Boreeas> Morrolan: You are the op, ban/mute him already :P
#1109 [13:04] <Morrolan> !k edmund Last warning, friend
#1110 [13:04] * GreyBot kicked edmund from #minecrafthelp (Reason: dmund :<Kicks:915>)
#1111 [13:04] <mr_pants> thanks! :)
#1112 [13:04] <oldtopmanserver> !kick edmund Shoo!
#1113 [13:04] * AuBot kicked oldtopmanserver from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ldtopmanserver :No. Just...No.)
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#1115 [13:05] <Boreeas> Haha
#1116 [13:05] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Was wondering whether what he said was ban-worthy ^^
#1117 [13:05] <oldtopmanserver> that was unnesecarry
#1118 [13:05] <Boreeas> Morrolan: It was spam
#1119 [13:05] <oldtopmanserver> Boreeas: he's doing it over in #smp
#1120 [13:05] <Morrolan> Heck no, it's a brilliant feature, oldtopmanserver. :D
#1121 [13:05] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Okay, then we'll stick with "ban if he does it again" :)
#1122 [13:05] <oldtopmanserver> Morrolan: Let me explain why it was unnsecarry
#1123 [13:05] <Boreeas> Morrolan: That looks like randomly mashed keys to me, not any real language
#1124 [13:05] <Morrolan> Oh, derp.
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#1126 [13:06] <Morrolan> Yes, then it's definitely spam-
#1127 [13:06] <oldtopmanserver> !kick TheRoot
#1128 [13:06] * AuBot kicked TheRoot from #minecrafthelp (Reason: heRoot :I love you too! <3 (Issued by oldtopmanserver with reason: None given.))
#1129 [13:06] <oldtopmanserver> >.>
#1130 [13:06] <Boreeas> And in at least 3 channels
#1131 [13:07] <oldtopmanserver> Now you see what I mean :/
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#1133 [13:07] <Morrolan> Yes I do.
#1134 [13:07] <Morrolan> Guess AuBot had a bad day then. :P
#1135 [13:07] <oldtopmanserver> Eh, has to do with auth.
#1136 [13:08] <Morrolan> Oh, I see.
#1137 [13:08] * oldtopmanserver has oldtopmanserver for this and the bots.
#1137 [13:08] <oldtopmanserver> And oldtopman for the people and me.
#1138 [13:08] <mib_htc23p> you gave my friend a trojan
#1139 [13:08] <Morrolan> Pretty sure we did not.
#1140 [13:08] * oldtopmanserver agrees with Morrolan
#1140 [13:09] <Boreeas> mib_htc23p: What? When? How?
#1141 [13:09] <mib_htc23p> you told him to download javara he downloaded it and got a trojan
#1142 [13:09] <mib_htc23p> so nuhhh
#1143 [13:10] <Boreeas> PaperTiiger: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/737-28041SupportforATIMobility.aspx - Find your laptop manufacturer, and download the latest drivers please
#1144 [13:10] <Remas> a
#1145 [13:11] <PaperTiiger> Boreeas, doing now
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#1147 [13:12] <PaperTiiger> There's an intel/ati option for the driver download - I'm going to assume I go with the ATI driver, correct?
#1148 [13:13] <Boreeas> Yeah
#1149 [13:13] <PaperTiiger> 30 mins to download... are you kidding?!
#1150 [13:13] <PaperTiiger> 118mb file
#1151 [13:14] <DopeGhoti> AMD's drivers are crappy like that.
#1152 [13:14] <PaperTiiger> About 20 mins... Damn you AMD/ATI
#1153 [13:15] <jMoIIe> PaperTiiger: For graphics?
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#1155 [13:15] <PaperTiiger> Yes, for graphics :(
#1156 [13:15] <jasper> :D
#1157 [13:16] <breg> it lags
#1158 [13:16] <breg> what should i do
#1159 [13:16] <jasper> jasper l;kal;a
#1160 [13:16] <Morrolan> !kb jasper Spamming
#1161 [13:16] * GreyBot kicked jasper from #minecrafthelp (Reason: asper :<Kicks:916>)
#1162 [13:16] <jMoIIe> The files are so huge because they pack all the drivers for all Their newer cards in
#1163 [13:16] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: Hop on the Vox backchannel for a sec, would ya?
#1164 [13:16] <jMoIIe> NVIDIA does the same thing.
#1165 [13:17] <Morrolan> On my way. :)
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#1167 [13:20] <dervishkid> so anyone other then me got the issue with the older map files running like 5 mins then saving chunks and locking up?
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#1171 [13:28] <dervishkid> guess not)
#1172 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> dervishkid: I, at least, am not conversant with that particular behaviour
#1173 [13:29] <dervishkid> heh
#1174 [13:29] <dervishkid> if i make a new map. seems fine
#1175 [13:29] <dervishkid> maps from 1.1 seem to make it about 5 mins then does the saving chunk and lock up thing
#1176 [13:30] <Dusty> anyone else getting the black screen after mojang logo?
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#1180 [13:31] <Morrolan> Only when I installed an incompatible mod, Dusty.
#1181 [13:31] <Dusty> i speaking with clean install
#1182 [13:31] <Dusty> no mods
#1183 [13:32] <Morrolan> You might want to launch Minecraft through the console then, in order to get an error message to work with.
#1184 [13:32] <Morrolan> (Grab yourself the .jar launcher and start it with the command given on minecraft.net/download
#1185 [13:32] <DopeGhoti> ??> Dusty stats
#1186 [13:32] <VoxelHead> Dusty: (stats) http://statistics.minecraftirc.net/minecrafthelp.html
#1187 [13:32] <DopeGhoti> er, sorrt, wront FAQ
#1188 [13:32] <DopeGhoti> ??> Dusty specs
#1189 [13:32] <VoxelHead> Dusty: (specs) Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
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#1191 [13:32] <JulsMorrison> hi
#1192 [13:32] <DopeGhoti> Salutations
#1193 [13:33] <JulsMorrison> got a question
#1194 [13:33] <JulsMorrison> could you help me?
#1195 [13:33] <DopeGhoti> I might trade you an answer for your question.
#1196 [13:33] <DopeGhoti> Depends on the question though.
#1197 [13:33] <JulsMorrison> that's kind
#1198 [13:33] <DopeGhoti> I do what I can.
#1199 [13:33] <JulsMorrison> so i want to log into some random mc server
#1200 [13:33] <JulsMorrison> but everytime i press connect
#1201 [13:33] <JulsMorrison> it says something like
#1202 [13:34] <JulsMorrison> Minecraft Internal exception java.net.socketexception connection reset
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#1204 [13:34] <JulsMorrison> what can i do about that?
#1205 [13:34] <Dusty> asus c90s win xp pro 32bit, java 7-u3 -- 3gb ram -- nvidia gpu (getting model now)
#1206 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> Would you care to share one of the servers with which you are having trouble?
#1207 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> ??> Dusty java/7
#1208 [13:34] <JulsMorrison> empire minecraft for example
#1209 [13:34] <JulsMorrison> every single one
#1210 [13:34] <JulsMorrison> of them
#1211 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> ??> Dusty java/1.7
#1212 [13:35] <VoxelHead> Dusty: (java/1.7) Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#1213 [13:35] <Morrolan> Mind handing us an IP, JulsMorrison?
#1214 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> JulsMorrison: would you mine giving an actual server address?
#1215 [13:35] <Dusty> i just switched to java 7-u3 becuse 6-31 failed also
#1216 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> mind, even?
#1217 [13:35] <JulsMorrison> wait
#1218 [13:35] <Dusty> Remas can confirm
#1219 [13:35] <JulsMorrison> smp6.EmpireMinecraft.com here you go
#1220 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> Dusty: Java 1.7 is known to be issue-laden.
#1221 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> !check smp6.empireminecraft.com
#1222 [13:36] <Dusty> yes but i just told u 6-31 also fails
#1223 [13:36] <DopeGhoti> Dusty: in the same manner?
#1224 [13:36] <Dusty> no difference between the 2
#1225 [13:36] <Dusty> same issue
#1226 [13:36] <DopeGhoti> ??> Dusty win/profile
#1227 [13:36] <VoxelHead> Dusty: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1228 [13:36] <VoxelHead> Dusty: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1229 [13:36] <DopeGhoti> JulsMorrison: do you have any mods, texture packs, etc. installed on your client?
#1230 [13:37] <Dusty> very well.. we'll see, brb then
#1231 [13:37] <JulsMorrison> no, nothing installed, already deleted the .mc folder several times but it wont work
#1232 [13:37] <JulsMorrison> i just bought the game
#1233 [13:37] <DopeGhoti> JulsMorrison: runniny any firewalls or other security software?
#1234 [13:37] <Morrolan> You are on their whitelist I assume, JulsMorrison?
#1235 [13:37] <DopeGhoti> (TIL I apparently cannot type at work today)
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#1237 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> JulsMorrison: 32- or 64-bit Windows?
#1238 [13:38] <Alatreonkillers> hello
#1239 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> Cordial greetings, Alatreonkillers.
#1240 [13:38] <JulsMorrison> 64
#1241 [13:38] <Alatreonkillers> thanks
#1242 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> JulsMorrison: also, 64-bit java? or 32-bit?
#1243 [13:38] <Alatreonkillers> am i registerd?
#1244 [13:38] <JulsMorrison> i hope so, i registered
#1245 [13:38] <Alatreonkillers> am i registed?
#1246 [13:38] <Morrolan> Alatreonkillers - As in, nickserv account? No.
#1247 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> Alatreonkillers: if you mean with NickServ, no.
#1248 [13:39] <Alatreonkillers> But i registerd
#1249 [13:39] <DopeGhoti> did you identify?
#1250 [13:39] <Alatreonkillers> i think
#1251 [13:39] <Morrolan> Check your status window for any error messages.
#1252 [13:39] <Morrolan> Also check your ethernet cable whether any dead mouse is stuck inside.
#1253 [13:40] <Morrolan> Okay, only do the former, the later is silly.
#1254 [13:40] <JulsMorrison> i do not know i think it could be 32 how can i check?
#1255 [13:40] <Morrolan> JulsMorrison - "java -version" inside a console.
#1256 [13:40] <Morrolan> If you're on Windows: Windows + R -> cmd.exe -> enter to open one
#1257 [13:41] <Alatreonkillers> how do i register?
#1258 [13:41] <lukegb> GOT FROM Mibbit:
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#1260 [13:41] <DopeGhoti> ??> Alatreonkillers irc
#1261 [13:41] <VoxelHead> Alatreonkillers: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#1262 [13:41] <VoxelHead> Alatreonkillers: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#1263 [13:41] <Morrolan> Alatreonkillers - "/msg nickserv help register" will contain some information.
#1264 [13:42] <blaphmat> every time i go onto minecraft i get a hs err pid i have restarted my java and reinstalled minecraft and i dont know what to do
#1265 [13:42] <Morrolan> Throw this error file onto www.pastebin.com and put the link in here please. :)
#1266 [13:42] <Morrolan> Not literally, ofcourse.
#1267 [13:43] <JulsMorrison> it's 64
#1268 [13:43] <Boreeas> Morrolan: You might want to set a ban on *!*@host192-28-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it
#1269 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> ??> JulsMorrison won/profile
#1270 [13:43] <Boreeas> He has been ad-spamming in multiple channels already
#1271 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> ??> JulsMorrison win/profile
#1272 [13:43] <VoxelHead> JulsMorrison: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1273 [13:43] <VoxelHead> JulsMorrison: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#1275 [13:44] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Normally I prefer not to set bans on a channel which wasnt' affected by the user. :)
#1276 [13:44] <Morrolan> wasn't*
#1277 [13:44] <JulsMorrison> i'll gimme a sec
#1278 [13:44] <blaphmat> can someone help me pls
#1279 [13:44] <Boreeas> Ah well, then we wait and see :P
#1280 [13:44] <Morrolan> Heh.
#1281 [13:44] <Someone> You pinged me!
#1282 [13:44] <Morrolan> blaphmat - As I said, put the error on pastebin.com and give us the url.
#1283 [13:44] <Someone> WHY!
#1284 [13:44] <Morrolan> Someone - Haha.
#1285 [13:44] <Alatreonkillers> am i registerd now?
#1286 [13:44] <Alatreonkillers> :D
#1287 [13:45] <Alatreonkillers> OK i am now
#1288 [13:45] <Alatreonkillers> am i?
#1289 [13:45] <blaphmat> hello
#1290 [13:45] <Alatreonkillers> hey
#1291 [13:45] <Morrolan> Yep, you are. FOr the reference, if you "/whois" yourself you'll see whether you are.
#1292 [13:45] <blaphmat> can anyone help me
#1293 [13:45] <WugBot> blaphmat: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1294 [13:46] <Morrolan> blaphmat - I told you twice already. Put the error message on www.pastebin.com and give us the URL.
#1295 [13:46] <Alatreonkillers> Ok am i registerd for ever chat room now?
#1296 [13:46] <DopeGhoti> Alatreonkillers: for general IRC help, please go to #help
#1297 [13:46] <Morrolan> Yes, Nickserv is network-wide, Alatreonkillers.
#1298 [13:46] <Alatreonkillers> Ok thanks for the help
#1299 [13:46] <Alatreonkillers> w8 are you sure?
#1300 [13:46] <blaphmat> every time i go onto minecraft i get an hs err pid saying exception access violation and ive restarted my java and reinstalled my minecraft
#1301 [13:46] <blaphmat> still wont work
#1302 [13:47] <blaphmat> just get a black box
#1303 [13:47] <blaphmat> just get a black box
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#1305 [13:47] <Morrolan> !k blaphmat Put the error message on www.pastebin.com and give us the link please.
#1306 [13:47] * GreyBot kicked blaphmat from #minecrafthelp (Reason: laphmat :<Kicks:917>)
#1307 [13:47] <Morrolan> If this doesn't work I'm clueless. >:D
#1308 [13:48] <Morrolan> IRC really needs flashy letters. *sigh*
#1309 [13:48] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: that doesn't provide the message to the user. :p
#1310 [13:48] <DopeGhoti> IRC has flashy letters; we just disable them here.
#1311 [13:48] <Morrolan> It has colours, but does it have flashy letters too?
#1312 [13:48] <Morrolan> Oh, I just hope he got this message before GreyBot got my kick command, DopeGhoti. :P
#1313 [13:49] <Morrolan> Also, I thought IRC supported kick messages. GUess not. -.-
#1314 [13:49] <DopeGhoti> IRC does.
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#1316 [13:49] <DopeGhoti> GreyBot does not.
#1317 [13:49] <Morrolan> Oh, I see.
#1318 [13:49] * DopeGhoti kicked Morrolan from #minecrafthelp (Reason: orrolan :See?)
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#1320 [13:49] <Morrolan> "You have been kicked from #minecrafthelp by DopeGhoti [~DopeGhoti@vps.dope.ghoti.me]: See?"
#1321 [13:49] <Morrolan> Yea, I see.
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#1323 [13:49] <DopeGhoti> The message that blaph got via greybot was "<Kicks:917>"
#1324 [13:49] <Morrolan> Ah.
#1325 [13:49] <Morrolan> Grr.
#1326 [13:50] <DopeGhoti> if you want to do that, just use "/kick nick your snarky message"
#1327 [13:50] <Morrolan> Yea, I do know that much. ;)
#1328 [13:50] <Morrolan> I just like Greybot's command because of the counter.
#1329 [13:51] <JulsMorrison> nope didnt work
#1330 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> JulsMorrison: same problem on a new Windows profile in Java 1.6?
#1331 [13:52] <Boreeas> Silly Chatzilla changes the >) in the kick message to an alien face ...
#1332 [13:52] <JulsMorrison> yes think so
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#1334 [13:53] <JulsMorrison> i do not understand, when i played /w my friends via hamachi before it never said something like that
#1335 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> Do you still have Hamachi installed?
#1336 [13:53] <JulsMorrison> but now as i bought the game it doesn't work im kinda unhappy
#1337 [13:53] <Dusty> so to answer the question about making a new user for the black screen, no difference, same issue persists.
#1338 [13:54] <Dusty> plays in browser mode tho, if that helps
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#1340 [13:54] <Dusty> perhaps i have to redownload the jar loader?
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#1342 [13:55] <DopeGhoti> If it plays in browser mode but not the standalone client, try re-downloading the launcher.
#1343 [13:55] <Dusty> i can only get the jar launcher from here
#1344 [13:56] <base3000> Hello, i have the problem that minecraft is stuck at the Downloading Package's part, i tryed to delete the .minecraft folder ect...
#1345 [13:56] <Dusty> base - try the browser mode to update the game
#1346 [13:56] <JulsMorrison> browsermode doesnt work too
#1347 [13:57] <JulsMorrison> yes i do have hamachi installed
#1348 [13:57] <Dusty> oh.. ya.. that stumps me then.. could be IE or FF ? try switching?
#1349 [13:57] <JulsMorrison> should i uninstall?
#1350 [13:57] <Dusty> as for what i was asking, if someone has the link for the jar loader i'll try a new copy from that
#1351 [13:58] <Dusty> Aikar is same user from windower?
#1352 [13:59] <PaperTiiger> +boreeas, you gonna be here later?
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#1354 [14:00] <base3000> Could it be a server issue that minecraft wont update?
#1355 [14:01] <DopeGhoti> JulsMorrison: try uninstalling it; its additional virtual network interfaces may be interfering with Minecraft somehow.
#1356 [14:01] <DopeGhoti> Lord knows it has enough other issues.
#1357 [14:02] <Boreeas> PaperTiiger: Not sure
#1358 [14:02] <Boreeas> Probably, though
#1359 [14:02] <Boreeas> Probably, though
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#1362 [14:04] <Dusty> Anyone else familiar with black screen issue?
#1363 [14:08] <oldtopmanserver> ??> Dusty force/update
#1364 [14:08] <oldtopmanserver> ??> Dusty win/reinst/bat
#1365 [14:08] <VoxelHead> Dusty: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1366 [14:08] <VoxelHead> Dusty: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#1367 [14:12] <Dusty> that file seems to just delete the entire mc folder as was previously done.. but i'll run it again anyways
#1368 [14:13] <Dusty> same results
#1369 [14:13] <Dusty> even with forced update
#1370 [14:14] <Dusty> more than happy to TM an prove my case if u doubt my claims Voxel
#1371 [14:14] <Dusty> Remas saw for himself earlier tho
#1372 [14:15] <Dusty> teamview* sry wrong abbr with tm
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#1377 [14:17] <Dusty> i'd also like to point out temp files have been dumped also, even prefetch.
#1378 [14:21] <Morrolan> For the record, VoxelHead is a bot. :)
#1379 [14:22] <Eddie> An annoying one, yes.
#1380 [14:22] <Morrolan> You might want to run Minecraft through the console though, so you get an error message.
#1381 [14:22] <Morrolan> Grab the .jar launcher and launch it with the command specified on minecraft.net/download
#1382 [14:22] * Morrolan hugs VoxelHead
#1382 [14:22] <Dusty> not familiar with "console"
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#1384 [14:23] * VoxelHead raspberries Eddie
#1384 [14:23] <Morrolan> Dusty - If you're on Windows you can get there by pressing windows+r, typing in "cmd.exe" and hitting enter.
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#1386 [14:23] <Eddie> I prefer blackberries, thanks
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#1388 [14:23] <Luffy2002> Hi
#1389 [14:23] <Dusty> eh? load from dos? what difference is that going to make?
#1390 [14:23] <Luffy2002> Are the authentification servers down?
#1391 [14:23] <Morrolan> It'll show the error message in there, Dusty.
#1392 [14:23] <Dusty> alright.. i'll give that a shot brb then
#1393 [14:24] <Morrolan> https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13 seems fine, Luffy2002.
#1394 [14:24] <Luffy2002> ok...
#1395 [14:24] <Reepime_> I have a question regarding pistons. Is minecraft intentionally set up to activate pistons if they are 2 blocks below redstone wiring? See the link for a screenshot. http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l284/Reepime/2012-03-01_141932.png
#1396 [14:24] <Luffy2002> It's cause i can't log in a serv
#1397 [14:24] <Morrolan> Luffy2002 - Chances are either the server is down or you and the server aren't on the same version.
#1398 [14:25] <Luffy2002> well i doubt 2B2T is down
#1399 [14:25] <Reepime_> Other items affected by redstone don't activate at that level. This is the case with 1.1 as well as 1.2.2
#1400 [14:25] <Dusty> i see no messages in dos
#1401 [14:25] <Morrolan> No clue whether it's intended, but pistons behave pretty strange in a number of ways.
#1402 [14:25] <Luffy2002> i think it's because of the version... It shows me that I "took too long to log in"
#1403 [14:25] <Morrolan> Dusty - You did launch the .jar launcher, right?
#1404 [14:25] <Luffy2002> oh,sorry for the highlight
#1405 [14:26] <Dusty> typed minecraft.jar an only the usual happened
#1406 [14:26] <Morrolan> Dusty - Try "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#1407 [14:26] <Dusty> game shows up, login, mojang logo, black screen forever
#1408 [14:26] <Reepime_> Sounds like it may be a Java corruption.
#1409 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> ??> Dusty win/javara
#1410 [14:27] <VoxelHead> Dusty: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1411 [14:27] <VoxelHead> Dusty: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#1412 [14:27] <Dusty> morro is that a bat file with quote marks?
#1413 [14:27] <Morrolan> You can put it in a bat file, but could just as well type it directly in the console. *shrug*
#1414 [14:27] <Luffy2002> by the way, do you have the name of a serv that is already updated? So I can check if that 's the problem?
#1415 [14:27] <Morrolan> Remove the quotatoin marks, ofcourse.
#1416 [14:27] <Morrolan> quotation*
#1417 [14:28] <sugoi> Luffy2002: pretty easy to test that yourself
#1418 [14:28] <Dusty> all that does is loads a black dos screen for a split second, then nothing
#1419 [14:28] <sugoi> Luffy2002: download the server from http://www.minecraft.net/download, run it, and connect to local
#1420 [14:28] <Dusty> remas did the same thing earlier via teamview
#1421 [14:29] <Morrolan> Dusty - If you put it in a bat file then add a new line with "pause" in it.
#1422 [14:29] <Luffy2002> local like "local", or like "localhost"?
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#1424 [14:29] <Morrolan> localhost, Luffy2002.
#1425 [14:29] <Morrolan> Or 127.0.0
#1426 [14:29] <sugoi> Morrolan: i think it should be universally accepted/taught that `command text to enter` be denoted with backtics, and implied to not include said back tics :)
#1427 [14:29] <Morrolan> Or 127.0.0.1, whatever flaots your boat.
#1428 [14:29] <Morrolan> floats*
#1429 [14:29] <sugoi> haha
#1430 [14:29] <Luffy2002> lol
#1431 [14:29] <Dusty> ok now we're getting somewhere, i have this text in dos
#1432 [14:29] <Luffy2002> connexion refused
#1433 [14:29] * sugoi thnks Morrolan runs IPv33
#1433 [14:30] <Morrolan> ;)
#1434 [14:30] <sugoi> Luffy2002: you ahve to start the server first
#1435 [14:30] <sugoi> Morrolan: dang it, typo day, s/33/3/
#1436 [14:30] <Luffy2002> oh damn
#1437 [14:30] <Luffy2002> i can't download things on that comp
#1438 [14:30] <Luffy2002> besides being a mac, it's my sister's
#1439 [14:30] <Morrolan> Dusty - Paste it on www.pastebin.com and throw a link in here. :)
#1440 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: I never could get the hang of Thursdays, either.
#1441 [14:30] <Dusty> error occured during initialization of vm / could not reserve enough space for object heap / error could not create java virtual machine / a fatal exception has occured program will exit
#1442 [14:31] <Luffy2002> k, so i'll just look for some servers
#1443 [14:31] <Luffy2002> thanks for the help =
#1444 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> Dusty: how much RAM has your computer got, again?
#1445 [14:31] <Luffy2002> !$
#1446 [14:31] <Morrolan> sugoi - Heh, some obligatory "How to use your computer" lessons for every computer user would save tech support a lot of time.
#1447 [14:31] <Dusty> 3gb
#1448 [14:31] * sugoi renames Thursday as "Typoday"
#1448 [14:31] <Aikar> Dusty: yes
#1449 [14:31] <Dusty> Aikar from windower? dev OF windower?!
#1450 [14:31] <Aikar> there is no other Aikar :P
#1451 [14:31] <Aikar> yes
#1452 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> Dusty: and what are your virtual memory settings, and how much VM is gree?
#1453 [14:31] <Morrolan> Somewhere along these lessons one could also be taught that one should not include quotation marks / backtics / whatever for commands :D
#1454 [14:31] <Aikar> been talking bout MC alot on FFOChat :P
#1455 [14:32] <Dusty> cannot be.. must be some mistake >.> the god of 11 would never be somewhere in public view
#1456 [14:32] <Aikar> lol
#1457 [14:32] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: actually, ticks and quotes should be included, but not backticks. (:
#1458 [14:32] <sugoi> Morrolan: well at times, more commonly with windows paths, quotes happen, ergo my pref of backtics
#1459 [14:32] <Aikar> yeah i actually broke free of online games for a while
#1460 [14:32] <Aikar> but MC pulled me in
#1461 [14:32] <Morrolan> sugoi - I guess that's a valid reason, yea.
#1462 [14:32] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti - See above :P
#1463 [14:32] * DopeGhoti sees.
#1463 [14:32] * DopeGhoti is a seer, apparently.
#1463 [14:32] * sugoi chuckles
#1463 [14:33] <Morrolan> However, to be honest, these backtics are a bitch to type on my keyboard. I'd hate that practice. ^^
#1464 [14:33] <Dusty> this cannot be.. Aikar.. THE Aikar.. no.. no.. impossible.. what server were u from? -skeptical-
#1465 [14:33] <Aikar> Dusty: yuo just starting MC? and did you frequent FFO Chat IRC?
#1466 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: they are? They're not just an unshifted tilde?
#1467 [14:33] <Aikar> Titan originally, then Leviathan :P, you could just connect to windower/ffochat IRC which I run!
#1468 [14:33] * sugoi puts a tiny sticker covering the ` symbol on his keyboard, it reads, 'bitch'
#1468 [14:33] <Dusty> i was never a part of the 11 irc or such, i know ur name it is legend
#1469 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> use $(this) syntax instad then. backticks are deprecated in favor of it anyhow (:
#1470 [14:33] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti - it's shift + the button next to backspace.
#1471 [14:34] <sugoi> Morrolan: what?! seriously... mac?
#1472 [14:34] <Morrolan> It's not _that_ hard to type, but have to reach out with my little finger on the right hand pretty far.
#1473 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: that's not a Mac thing, that's a non-en_US layout thing
#1474 [14:34] <sugoi> ah
#1475 [14:34] * sugoi considers mac a non-en_US layout thing
#1475 [14:34] <Morrolan> Yea, Swiss QWERTz keyboard it is.
#1476 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: for en_US, it's the key to the left of '1'.
#1477 [14:35] <Morrolan> Hmm, that's a bit easier to type I guess. :)
#1478 [14:35] <Morrolan> Left of '1' is § / ° for me.
#1479 [14:35] <Dusty> Dope - i cannot say for certain the memory allocated to java since i switched to 7-u3
#1480 [14:35] <Morrolan> § without, ° with shift.
#1481 [14:35] <sugoi> o_O
#1482 [14:35] <Dusty> i will look into it now tho, it is a good point
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#1484 [14:35] <Dusty> tho know that 6-31 had memory values set an it still failed
#1485 [14:35] <sugoi> Dusty: you mean java 1.7u3?
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#1487 [14:36] <Dusty> i am not aware of a 1 being infront of it
#1488 [14:36] <sugoi> Dusty: ahs it been suggested (yes, i see my typo <-- but it's typoday) to downgrade to 1.6*?
#1489 [14:36] <sugoi> Dusty: sorry, java v7 == 1.6
#1490 [14:36] <sugoi> AH
#1491 [14:36] <dervishkid> ok. anyone got the issue of 1.1 maps loading up running say 5 mins then saving chunks pops up and it's locked/crash?
#1492 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: how is this non-en_US? http://imgur.com/hnwSK
#1493 [14:36] <Dusty> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-7u3-download-1501631.html
#1494 [14:36] <sugoi> typoday!
#1495 [14:36] <Dusty> if that helps
#1496 [14:36] <Dusty> to ID my java
#1497 [14:36] <sugoi> Dusty: sorry, java v7 == 1.7
#1498 [14:37] <sugoi> Dusty: i'm just saying, when anyone says 1.7 they mean 7 and visa versa
#1499 [14:37] <sugoi> it's just java-version lingo
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#1501 [14:37] <sugoi> 1.6 and 6, etc
#1502 [14:37] <mtdark> Hey all, anyone know where I can get an updated jar? my minecraft wont update to the latest
#1503 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> dervishkid: not since last time you asked.
#1504 [14:37] <mtdark> it just freezes and pauses during update
#1505 [14:37] <mtdark> :(
#1506 [14:37] <Morrolan> "Subversion Edge"?
#1507 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> ??> mtdark win/client
#1508 [14:37] <VoxelHead> mtdark: (win/client) https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#1509 [14:37] <mtdark> windows client
#1510 [14:37] <mtdark> I updated it
#1511 [14:37] <Morrolan> I like your "E" btw. :D
#1512 [14:37] <dervishkid> heh strange
#1513 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> ??> mtdark win/reinst
#1514 [14:38] <VoxelHead> mtdark: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1515 [14:38] <VoxelHead> mtdark: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1516 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: which 'e'? I've been told I'm 80% of the way to an MD from my penmanship (:
#1517 [14:38] <dervishkid> ok realy quit how do i load minecraft with the java consol. maybe a error message clear this up
#1518 [14:38] <mtdark> I deleted everything
#1519 [14:38] <mtdark> it still wont update
#1520 [14:38] <mtdark> I restarted computer afterwards as well
#1521 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: seriously, though, how is that key layout different from en_US?
#1522 [14:38] <mtdark> it just freezes after about 2-10%
#1523 [14:39] <mtdark> every time
#1524 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> ??> mtdark specs
#1525 [14:39] <VoxelHead> mtdark: (specs) Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#1526 [14:39] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: is that your keyboard, right now! and all this time i thought you were a bot
#1527 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> I just type quickly.
#1528 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> But yes, that's the keyboard I am using this very moment.
#1529 [14:39] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: it's en_US _technically_ , i just enjoy to baseless mac-mock every now and then
#1530 [14:39] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti - I don't really know what an "MD" is, and neither does Wikipedia, but the upper case 'E' in "Edge" I meant.
#1531 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: MD (abbrev.): Medical Doctor
#1532 [14:40] <mtdark> I7 920, 12gb ram 1333mhz, not OC'ed processor, 560 TI video card, Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 64 bit java
#1533 [14:40] <mtdark> maybe I should update my java or somethin
#1534 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> (doctors in the US have notoriously bad handwriting)
#1535 [14:40] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti - Oh, haha, should have figured that one out.
#1536 [14:40] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: tho, the lack of backspace AND delete always bugs me on those
#1537 [14:40] <Morrolan> Yea, doctors everywhere have.
#1538 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: delete and X> do exactly what they are expected to do. :p
#1539 [14:41] <sugoi> ha
#1540 [14:41] <Dusty> lol so "32768 mb" in disk space should be enough?
#1541 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> [X]> even. however you want to diagram the 'other delete key''s iconography
#1542 [14:41] <Morrolan> 32 GB looks fine to me. *shrug*
#1543 [14:41] <Dusty> if not tell me what it should be, cuz thats the memory from b4
#1544 [14:42] <Dusty> i didn't set it that way >.>
#1545 [14:42] <Dusty> i found it set to 32gb
#1546 [14:42] <Dusty> i'm throwing it back to 1gb
#1547 [14:42] <mtdark> does anyone know where I could get an updated minecraft.jar or osmethin? lol
#1548 [14:42] <mtdark> its so lame I cant update
#1549 [14:43] <Morrolan> AUto-update function of the launcher is the onyl way.
#1550 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> mtdark: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_2/minecraft.jar
#1551 [14:43] <Morrolan> You can access that one directly? oO
#1552 [14:43] <mtdark> I'll try that out :)
#1553 [14:43] <Dusty> that is the jar loader url?
#1554 [14:43] <Morrolan> Well, come to think of it there's no reason not to I guess.
#1555 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> I believe that to by the /bin/ java archive.
#1556 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> s/to/do/
#1557 [14:44] <mtdark> hey that worked
#1558 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> that'll be $8
#1559 [14:44] <mtdark> DopeGhoti that worked!
#1560 [14:44] <mtdark> lol
#1561 [14:44] <Morrolan> "I believe that do by the /bin/ java archive." <- sure you won't want to replace (yet) another word, DopeGhoti? :)
#1562 [14:44] <mtdark> screw the auto updater, use the assets page! let everyone know for anyone who has the issue of updating :)
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#1564 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> fscking Thursdays.
#1565 [14:45] * Grim_Reaper hugs DopeGhoti
#1565 [14:45] * DopeGhoti quietly runs sudo killall -KILL typod
#1565 [14:45] <Andreas> hello every1 does any1 know why i cant join any servers on minecraft after the new update is something wrong with the client?
#1566 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> ??> Andreas dont/tweet
#1567 [14:45] <VoxelHead> Andreas: (dont/tweet) IRC has a very generous limit on the length of its messages. Please, for the sake of our sanity, use complete words, such as 'you', 'one', and 'are', and not 'u', '1', and 'r'.
#1568 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> ??> Andreas recentupdate
#1569 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> ??> Andreas smp/recentupdate
#1570 [14:45] <VoxelHead> Andreas: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#1571 [14:45] <VoxelHead> Andreas: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#1572 [14:46] <Dusty> who has the url to the jar loader since that wasn't it?
#1573 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> ??> Dusty linux/client
#1574 [14:46] <VoxelHead> Dusty: (linux/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar
#1575 [14:46] <Morrolan> Uh, I think I'll close IRC, won't get any work done if I stay here. :)
#1576 [14:46] <Morrolan> G'day everyone.
#1577 [14:46] <Andreas> im the server admin/owner but i cant update it it should do it self?
#1578 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> ciao, Morrolan
#1579 [14:46] <mtdark> erh DopeGhoti
#1580 [14:46] <Dusty> wait a d-- min.. that last jar file from u dope whats IN that?
#1581 [14:47] <mtdark> now that I removed my folders, uhh, it didn't redownload resources
#1582 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> Andreas: no, servers do not self-update. You'll have to reacquire the server archive.
#1583 [14:47] <mtdark> so I have 0 sounds in game
#1584 [14:47] <mtdark> lol
#1585 [14:47] <Dusty> now mc works
#1586 [14:47] <Dusty> i wanna know whats inside that file that makes it work o.o
#1587 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> Dusty: what's in that java archive is the Minecraft launcher.
#1588 [14:47] <Dusty> an ty vox for the other url - saves it-
#1589 [14:47] * VoxelHead tips its cap
#1589 [14:47] <Andreas> hmm its at multicraft and i didnt need to upload the last craftbukkit into it, it did that it self
#1590 [14:48] <Dusty> idk what u did to it.. but that seems to have fixed my issue
#1591 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> ??> Andreas mods
#1592 [14:48] <VoxelHead> Andreas: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#1593 [14:48] <VoxelHead> Andreas: (mods) as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1594 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> Dusty: nothing was done, that was a stock archive direct from Mojang.
#1595 [14:48] <Andreas> i dont got any mods...
#1596 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> multicraft and craftbukkit are mods.
#1597 [14:49] <Andreas> oooh
#1598 [14:49] <Andreas> srry didnt know xD
#1599 [14:49] <Dusty> then.. idk but ty
#1600 [14:49] <Dusty> maybe my dl is getting corrupted but that one worked.. i have no idea
#1601 [14:52] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: a programmers rant on keyboards: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2009/02/have-keyboard-will-program.html
#1602 [14:53] <Andreas> im back i cant join other server too it says Connection lost internal exception: java.net.socketexception: connection reset?:(
#1603 [14:55] <Andreas> can any1 please help me ?:(
#1604 [14:55] <WugBot> Andreas: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1605 [14:56] <Andreas> any1?
#1606 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> What server are you trying to join?
#1607 [14:57] <Andreas> all my servers no1 off them are working
#1608 [14:57] <Andreas> it says i got connection to them but cant join them
#1609 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Try mc.minecraftirc.net
#1610 [14:58] <Andreas> it says the same
#1611 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> !check mc.minecraftirc.net
#1612 [14:58] <Andreas> Connection lost internal exception: java.net.socketexception: connection reset
#1613 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell me what servers you've tried?
#1614 [14:59] <Andreas> mc.euro-craft.net:25565, 50.115.37.66:25555, evercraft.sytes.net
#1615 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> !check mc.euro-craft.net
#1616 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> !check 50.115.37.66:25555
#1617 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Oh wait... are you running 1.2?
#1618 [15:00] <Andreas> im running the new update yes
#1619 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> That would be why..
#1620 [15:01] <Andreas> doesnt it work?
#1621 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Servers don't automatically update. You'll need to wait for the server's admin to update them for you before you can join with the new 1.2
#1622 [15:01] <Andreas> oky how do i get the old version?
#1623 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Did you back up your minecraft.jar before you updated?
#1624 [15:01] <Andreas> no
#1625 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Then you can't.
#1626 [15:02] <Boreeas> Andreas: Get one of the old snapshots from the forums, I guess
#1627 [15:02] * GreyVulpine prods Boreeas.
#1627 [15:02] <Andreas> damn
#1628 [15:02] <Andreas> if i ask 1 of my friend can they send me would that work?
#1629 [15:02] <Boreeas> GreyVulpine: Hmm?
#1630 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> Mojang's policy on distributing minecraft files...
#1631 [15:03] <Boreeas> GreyVulpine: Official prereleases?
#1632 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> I suppose.
#1633 [15:04] <Boreeas> They were announced on the forums
#1634 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> 1.1 itself wasn't a pre-release
#1635 [15:04] <Boreeas> But there /should/ be old ones
#1636 [15:04] * TheDeadlyShotz [TheDeadlyShotz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1637 [15:04] * VoxelHead kicked TheDeadlyShotz from #minecrafthelp (Reason: heDeadlyShotz :Banned: Trying to steal)
#1638 [15:05] <Boreeas> :|
#1639 [15:05] <clarjon1> ?
#1640 [15:06] <clarjon1> what was he trying to steal?
#1641 [15:06] * Boreeas reads logs
#1641 [15:07] <Dusty> anyways ty for the time being
#1642 [15:08] <Boreeas> Hrm, I don't have any logs before 19:00
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#1646 [15:13] <bejoe905> hey, is framerate lag common under 1.2.2/
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#1648 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Ah. "<TheDeadlyShotz> i have to use minecraftforfree.com"
#1649 [15:15] <bejoe905> LOL
#1650 [15:16] <Boreeas> Hm
#1651 [15:16] <Boreeas> Hahaha
#1652 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Back in 2/15
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#1655 [15:16] <hoepen> ...hmpf... "We do not support pre-releases.".... could i get a download link for 1.1 without support instead?
#1656 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> There are no download links for 1.1
#1657 [15:16] <bejoe905> http://minecraftjars.s3.amazonaws.com/minecraft-1.1.jar
#1658 [15:17] <Boreeas> hoepen: You can not, legally, unless there are 1.1aX prerelease snapshots availlaple
#1659 [15:17] <Boreeas> bejoe905: Is that from Mojang?
#1660 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> bejoe905 - Is.. that an official link?
#1661 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> sugoi: I agree with _everything_ in that keyboard rant.
#1662 [15:17] <Boreeas> DopeGhoti++
#1663 [15:17] <bejoe905> no idea, i just got that from my server channel
#1664 [15:18] <Boreeas> Don't give out these links then
#1665 [15:18] <bejoe905> okay
#1666 [15:18] <sugoi> DopeGhoti: :)
#1667 [15:18] <Boreeas> You don't even know what kind of malicious content might be in the jar
#1668 [15:18] <bejoe905> alright, point taken
#1669 [15:18] <hoepen> bejoe905: won't work for minecraft_server...
#1670 [15:18] <hoepen> but thx
#1671 [15:18] <bejoe905> alright, isregard it then
#1672 [15:18] <bejoe905> disregard*
#1673 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: I've removed you from the ban list. Shame on you.
#1674 [15:19] * GreyVulpine pffts
#1674 [15:19] * GreyVulpine pffts
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#1675 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> spammer
#1676 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> ..I can ineffectively put you back on if you like.
#1677 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> That's.. alright
#1678 [15:20] <bejoe905> Does anyone know if fps lag is bad with 1.2.2?
#1679 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> Don't know, haven't tried 1.2
#1680 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> also, the spammer's ship has already sailed:
#1681 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> 13:19 <VoxelHead> ! [ 15] *!*@host192-28-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it (expires in 29 days)
#1682 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> 13:19 <VoxelHead> DopeGhoti: Reported multi-channel drive-by spamming.
#1683 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> 13:19 <VoxelHead> Created 11:43
#1684 [15:21] <Boreeas> DopeGhoti: How do I!
#1685 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> how do you what?
#1686 [15:21] <Boreeas> (Check, that is) :P
#1687 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> Do you have access to Vox' backchannel?
#1688 [15:22] <bejoe905> i updated earlier, and made myself a new world, and long after my spawnpoint and surrounding area loaded, i was still getting ~13fps
#1689 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> Oh hey, new launcher as well
#1690 [15:22] <bejoe905> oh, really? I thought that was just for new purchasers
#1691 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> "In addition, the Minecraft launcher has been updated. The new launcher should properly select 64 bit Java installations for Mac OS X users. If you haven’t downloaded Minecraft yet you can grab it here: www.minecraft.net/download"
#1692 [15:23] <bejoe905> ohh, so its mainly for macs
#1693 [15:24] <oldtopmanserver> Hey, quick question.
#1694 [15:24] <oldtopmanserver> Why does the server crash when trying to convert my worlds?
#1695 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Quick answer
#1696 [15:24] <oldtopmanserver> Gets to 11% and dies.
#1697 [15:24] <oldtopmanserver> http://pastebin.com/uE94Ary7
#1698 [15:25] <bejoe905> looks like it got overloaded and choked
#1699 [15:25] <oldtopmanserver> hrm
#1700 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Nether enabled?
#1701 [15:26] <oldtopmanserver> Yep.
#1702 [15:26] <oldtopmanserver> (but not hellworld.
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#1704 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Could.. you enable hellworld and try again?
#1705 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Could.. you enable hellworld and try again?
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#1707 [15:27] <oldtopmanserver> http://pastebin.com/AaJTVzKz
#1708 [15:27] <sugoi> nooo! coffee machine out of order!
#1709 [15:27] <oldtopmanserver> Seems they removed hellworld.
#1710 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Ah, hmm
#1711 [15:28] <bejoe905> they prolly just removed the flag and are useing the allow-nether flag
#1712 [15:28] <oldtopmanserver> I know that much.
#1713 [15:28] <sugoi> oldtopmanserver: i'm just poking ideas here, but
#1714 [15:28] <oldtopmanserver> But it's already set to true!
#1715 [15:29] <sugoi> oldtopmanserver: 1. was your world created via mods, and now vanilla can't conver it?
#1716 [15:29] <oldtopmanserver> sugoi: Straight vanilla since 1.2
#1717 [15:29] <oldtopmanserver> (beta)
#1718 [15:29] <sugoi> oldtopmanserver: 2. consider opening and saving the world files in mcedit, sometimes that corrects back chunks
#1719 [15:29] <oldtopmanserver> This world in specific was made in 1.8
#1720 [15:29] <oldtopmanserver> sugoi: The chunks are fine, i already did that. And this is happening on both maps.
#1721 [15:30] <bejoe905> has the terrain generation changed, besides the addition of jungles?
#1722 [15:31] <bejoe905> if not, possibly generate a new ma in 1.2 with the same seed, and mcedit all the important buildings and such?
#1723 [15:31] <bejoe905> map*
#1724 [15:31] <sugoi> oldtopmanserver: did you know you can save 15% on your car insurance in 15 minutes?
#1725 [15:31] <oldtopmanserver> sugoi: shoo.
#1726 [15:32] <sugoi> oldtopmanserver: does that world still open with 1.1?
#1727 [15:32] <oldtopmanserver> yes.
#1728 [15:33] <oldtopmanserver> aaand same thing when I try to convert via client.
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#1730 [15:33] <oldtopmanserver> fffs
#1731 [15:33] <mmdawg1> Hello?
#1732 [15:33] <bejoe905> hi
#1733 [15:34] <mmdawg1> can I have the support ticket link
#1734 [15:34] <oldtopmanserver> bejoe905: This server has been around since 1.2. The terrain generation has changed so much since then, it wouldn't be the same. Not to mention that there are some 35 megaprojects that go both above and below ground and are unique to the terrain.
#1735 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1736 [15:34] <bejoe905> oh damn, okay, nvm then.
#1737 [15:35] <oldtopmanserver> yeah, sorry :/
#1738 [15:35] <bejoe905> maybe thats whats tripping it up, trying to convert an entire generation back up to the new format
#1739 [15:35] <bejoe905> just spitballin' here.
#1740 [15:36] <sugoi> oldtopmanserver: file version migration is not a simple task, and it may be they (mc devs) have made a mistake - i would post a bug and attack your world files
#1741 [15:36] <oldtopmanserver> sugoi: Where do I go for filing bugreports?
#1742 [15:37] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: ? ^
#1743 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> I have.. no idea.
#1744 [15:37] <PaperTiiger> +Boreeas, still there?
#1745 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> It's a good idea.
#1746 [15:37] <Boreeas> PaperTiiger: In a second
#1747 [15:37] <sugoi> oldtopmanserver: also, after you have "attacked" your world file, remember today is typoday and then also _attach_ the world file to the bug report
#1748 [15:38] <oldtopmanserver> oic
#1749 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> perhaps try emailing jeb@mojang with it?
#1750 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Er wait, the support ticket has support for attachments, perhaps try that?/
#1751 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1752 [15:38] <bejoe905> i looked at that, its for account and payment issues
#1753 [15:39] <bejoe905> but it ws a good thought
#1754 [15:40] <bejoe905> maybe take it to the forums?
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#1756 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> Forums are a joke.
#1757 [15:41] <Ray_Romano> Is there a legit way to downgrade minecraft? My dad doesn't like the mobs in the game, so I need a specific mod (only for 1.0) to remove them...
#1758 [15:41] * GreyVulpine shakes
#1758 [15:41] <bejoe905> there is no official manner in which to backdate your client.
#1759 [15:41] <Ray_Romano> that stinks
#1760 [15:41] <Ray_Romano> oh well
#1761 [15:41] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: drafty? or shaking 'head' :)
#1762 [15:41] * GreyVulpine shakes head
#1762 [15:42] * bejoe905 unserstood it the first time
#1762 [15:42] <sugoi> Ray_Romano: yeah, next time back up first :/ sry
#1763 [15:42] <bejoe905> tyopday strikes again
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#1765 [15:44] <sugoi> bejoe905: typoday celebrator, your doign it rihgt
#1766 [15:44] <bejoe905> D:
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#1769 [15:45] <Daphonic> When someone gets a chance, can i get a tad bit help. Trying to figure out how to host minecraft. I have a Buisness SMC gateway from Comcast. but my friends cant join on my IP
#1770 [15:46] <bejoe905> Is the port forwarded corrently?
#1771 [15:46] <AG_Clinton> Port forward.
#1772 [15:47] <Daphonic> yea thought it was, but i cant seem to log into the default gateway now at 10.1.10.1 keeps giving me no site found.
#1773 [15:47] <bejoe905> Is the port forwarded corrently?
#1774 [15:47] <bejoe905> >.>
#1775 [15:47] <bejoe905> try 192.168.0.1
#1776 [15:48] <Daphonic> its 10.1.10.1, even my cmd/ipconfig shows that as default ip
#1777 [15:48] <bejoe905> odd.
#1778 [15:48] <Daphonic> is there a Checker out there to put in IP/port to see where connection stops.
#1779 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> what does it list your computer's ip address is?
#1780 [15:48] <sugoi> bejoe905: not really, that range is allowed
#1781 [15:50] <Daphonic> im 10.1.10.15
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#1783 [15:50] <Daphonic> its not a normal router. its a buisness modem/router
#1784 [15:50] <bejoe905> that may be why
#1785 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Should still be able to access the setup page through 10.1
#1786 [15:51] <Daphonic> hmm i hosted before on it, i just cant seem to figure it out
#1787 [15:51] <Finamenon> Hiya, this may have been asked already.. but anyone here know how the new update will affect the file sizes of my current server?
#1788 [15:51] <Daphonic> 256 height <3
#1789 [15:51] <oldtopman> Finamenon: If you can get it to upgrade, that is.
#1790 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Daphonic - Are you hooked up directly to the modem via a wire?
#1791 [15:51] <Daphonic> yes
#1792 [15:52] <Finamenon> oldtopman: is that been a major issue for people?
#1793 [15:52] <oldtopman> Finamenon: Yes.
#1794 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Daphonic - Perhaps try a hard reset of the modem, reset it back to factory default?
#1795 [15:52] <Daphonic> i cant grey, I have static ip on it.
#1796 [15:52] <Daphonic> im not going to call them back to put it back on lol
#1797 [15:53] <Finamenon> what exactly is the issue?
#1798 [15:53] <Daphonic> brb let me just unplug and plug back in
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#1801 [15:53] <mib_75y557> hello?
#1802 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Hi
#1803 [15:54] <bejoe905> hi
#1804 [15:54] <PaperTiiger> Harro
#1805 [15:54] <mib_75y557> i got a login problem
#1806 [15:54] <bejoe905> bad login?
#1807 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> What login problem would that be?
#1808 [15:54] <mib_75y557> yep
#1809 [15:54] <mib_75y557> "login failed"
#1810 [15:54] <mib_75y557> in launcher
#1811 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Try redownloading the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#1812 [15:54] <mib_75y557> a few minutes a ago there was no problem to login in browser
#1813 [15:55] <mib_75y557> but atm i cant login to the page asswell
#1814 [15:55] <mib_75y557> i reloaded, i delete the romaing .minecraft allready
#1815 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> !login
#1816 [15:56] <Finamenon> if anyone knows how the update will affect file sizes let me know D:
#1817 [15:56] <mib_75y557> spaehling
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#1819 [15:56] <mib_75y557> mail: spaehling@gmx.de
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#1823 [15:57] <potatosack> Can someone help me i can't get my minecraft to go past 2% on lwjgl.jar while re downloading minecraft
#1824 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> potatosack - Disable your AV
#1825 [15:58] <potatosack> dont have one
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#1827 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> You sure about that?
#1828 [15:58] <potatosack> worked fine 2 hours ago now it wont
#1829 [15:58] <potatosack> yep
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#1831 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> Then something's blocking minecraft from downloading lwjgl
#1832 [15:58] <bejoe905> not even windows defender?
#1833 [15:58] <Daphonic> ok i can log back into the SMC again
#1834 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> We typically see AVG, avast, norton, bulldog, and a number of other AVs do this
#1835 [15:58] <potatosack> why would it all of a sudden do something and 2 hours ago it was fine
#1836 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> We see AVs do strange things with minecraft.
#1837 [15:59] <bejoe905> ive been using avast since i discovered minecraft, and ive never had that problem...
#1838 [15:59] <bejoe905> weird.
#1839 [15:59] <mib_75y557> okay iam logged in again. but i don't know if the problem is done
#1840 [15:59] <mib_75y557> logged in the game. not in the page
#1841 [16:00] <potatosack> so besides AV is there anyother solutions
#1842 [16:00] <bejoe905> are you trying to log into the page while youre logged into the client?
#1843 [16:00] <potatosack> the what
#1844 [16:01] <oldtopman> Finamenon: Go to open an old world > it crashes at 11%
#1845 [16:01] <Daphonic> 1 Minecrat 25565 25565 ~ 25565 TCP/UDP 10.1.10.15
#1846 [16:01] <Daphonic> that look right?
#1847 [16:01] <bejoe905> sry, i meant that for mib_75
#1848 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Daphonic - That looks right
#1849 [16:01] <Daphonic> k let me try again
#1850 [16:02] <bejoe905> Mib_75y557: Are you logging into the website while youre logged into the client?
#1851 [16:02] <Daphonic> can one the admins try and connect for me? none my guildies on anymore
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#1853 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Daphonic - Are you running 1.2?
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#1855 [16:03] <Daphonic> yes
#1856 [16:04] <Daphonic> just downloaded the new client and server
#1857 [16:04] <bejoe905> ill try to log on
#1858 [16:04] <bejoe905> ip?
#1859 [16:04] <Daphonic> i got the Defualt ip
#1860 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> ;ip Daphonic
#1861 [16:04] <WugBot> IP address of Daphonic is: 50.77.137.214
#1862 [16:04] <potatosack> So i have every AV turned off and i can't do anything with minecraft still stuck at 2% lwjgl.jar
#1863 [16:04] <Daphonic> 50.77.137.214
#1864 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> potatosack - Do you run AVG?
#1865 [16:04] <potatosack> no
#1866 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> What security software do you run?
#1867 [16:05] <potatosack> i don't run any
#1868 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> I find that really hard to believe.
#1869 [16:05] <potatosack> and windows defender is turned off
#1870 [16:05] <potatosack> don't have money for a AV and AVG free sucks i think
#1871 [16:05] <potatosack> so i use nothing
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#1873 [16:05] <bejoe905> Daphonic: Connection timed out
#1874 [16:06] <Daphonic> hmmm
#1875 [16:06] <Daphonic> if i change the server config
#1876 [16:06] <Daphonic> from white.list = true to false while server is running
#1877 [16:07] <Daphonic> do i have to reset it if i go back to false?
#1878 [16:07] <bejoe905> youll have to reload before it sets
#1879 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> You would need to reload the server for any changes to the server.properties to take effect
#1880 [16:07] <Daphonic> ahh
#1881 [16:07] <Daphonic> k brb
#1882 [16:08] <Daphonic> ok restarted
#1883 [16:08] <Daphonic> could you try again
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#1885 [16:09] <Daphonic> hmm other guy still cant get to it
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#1887 [16:11] <Daphonic> i DMZed my IP address see if that works i guess
#1888 [16:11] <bejoe905> if i could connect and it was whitelisted, it would tell me im not on the whitelist
#1889 [16:11] <bejoe905> connect failed
#1890 [16:11] <Daphonic> ahh
#1891 [16:11] <Daphonic> well i dont know :(
#1892 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> ;ip Daphonic
#1893 [16:12] <WugBot> IP address of Daphonic is: 50.77.137.214
#1894 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I'm unable to connect as well
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#1896 [16:13] <Finamenon> will the new patch create those ugly chunk seams again?
#1897 [16:13] <Daphonic> i turned off windows firewall as well
#1898 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> It may.
#1899 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> Still nothing Daphonic. Are you sure you're port forwarding to the correct IP address?
#1900 [16:14] <Finamenon> man thats awful news.. lol
#1901 [16:14] <tricorder42> I would like to replace my iron doors powered from below with a two-height sticky-piston contraption that pushes up and then pulls down two glass blocks (stacked on top of each other). This *must* be completely underground except for the glass (extended pistons being visible is OK) but can be wider or really high undergorund. Also, preferrably these can have two next to each other as well as pushing two blocks.
#1902 [16:14] <Daphonic> damnit
#1903 [16:14] <Daphonic> when i reset my router it changed me to .11 not .155
#1904 [16:14] <Daphonic> .15 try again
#1905 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#1906 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> Now it works
#1907 [16:15] <Daphonic> yea im an idiot
#1908 [16:15] <Daphonic> now how do i set it so everyone spawns same spot?
#1909 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> Everybody does spawn at the same spot
#1910 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> more or less.
#1911 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> There's only one spawn point, er, area
#1912 [16:16] <Daphonic> hmm dont see anyone im at the spawn i was at
#1913 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Try a /tp Daphonic GreyVulpine
#1914 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> You may have already explored a bit
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#1916 [16:17] <Daphonic> no i stayed same spot and put bedrock right under me so i knew were it was
#1917 [16:17] <BlackSheepie> My Multiplayer Server Connection Read times out
#1918 [16:17] <Daphonic> im going to reset the world once i get things working
#1919 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> BlackSheepie - It'll do that if you haven't updated your server to 1.2.2
#1920 [16:18] <BlackSheepie> How do I go about doing that?
#1921 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.net/download
#1922 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the server
#1923 [16:18] <BlackSheepie> Wouldn't I lose all of my server information by replacing the whole server download
#1924 [16:18] <LovecraftianWug> ;search minecraft.net/download
#1925 [16:18] <WugBot> Matches for "minecraft.net/download": not/downloaded
#1926 [16:18] <Grim_Reaper> ;search wug
#1927 [16:18] <WugBot> Matches for "wug": ! driver/naming flood/protection mclol ts/launcher wug wug/site wugbot wugmods
#1928 [16:18] <Grim_Reaper> o_O
#1929 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> You don't replace the whole server download. You replace minecraft_server.exe/jar
#1930 [16:19] <LovecraftianWug> ;- wugmods
#1931 [16:19] <LovecraftianWug> thats amazingly out of date
#1932 [16:19] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#1933 [16:19] <BlackSheepie> Okay I'll try that
#1934 [16:19] <Grim_Reaper> Wug share your out dated mods
#1935 [16:19] <Grim_Reaper> Or show rather
#1936 [16:19] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1937 [16:19] <Grim_Reaper> >.>
#1938 [16:19] <Finamenon> greyvulpine, perhaps you would know... how does converting the server to 1.2 affect file sizes?
#1939 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea, haven't touched 1.2 yet
#1940 [16:20] <Finamenon> >_<
#1941 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> I actually haven't played minecraft for a while now.
#1942 [16:21] <Finamenon> I cant find anyone who seems to know, and as I run on a ramdisk its pretty important
#1943 [16:21] <Grim_Reaper> Finamenon the conversion doesn't seem to effect the file size much
#1944 [16:22] <Finamenon> how much is the problem
#1945 [16:22] <Grim_Reaper> That I cant say
#1946 [16:22] <Finamenon> 1.2 out of 1.5 gig currently used on my disk
#1947 [16:22] <Finamenon> a 20% increase would fill it
#1948 [16:23] <Finamenon> 25
#1949 [16:23] <Grim_Reaper> Not so sure it would be that much
#1950 [16:24] <Finamenon> I hope not ><
#1951 [16:24] <BlackSheepie> The minecraft site only has the 1.1 server download still
#1952 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Nope. 1.2.2 for me
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#1954 [16:26] <BlackSheepie> Strange. I'll try it again
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#1956 [16:27] <hoepen> BlackSheepie: really?
#1957 [16:27] <hoepen> BlackSheepie: gimme!
#1958 [16:28] <BlackSheepie> I wouldn't know how. But every time I download from the link it automatically gives me the 1.1
#1959 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> In terms of size. A freshly created 1.1 world for me is 1,438,125 bytes, 1.2.2 is 3,195,377 bytes
#1960 [16:28] <hoepen> BlackSheepie: I've been lokking for a working _server.jar in v 1.1 for 2 hours now...
#1961 [16:28] <BlackSheepie> It's an .exe, not .jar
#1962 [16:29] <Boreeas> BlackSheepie: There is a jar, too
#1963 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> The .exe gives me 1.2.2 as well
#1964 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Clear your browser's cache
#1965 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Or try
#1966 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> !server
#1967 [16:29] <Boreeas> Grey: What's the number?
#1968 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Sometimes ISPs cache files as well, use one of those links to force a new, uncached download
#1969 [16:30] <BlackSheepie> I'll try that
#1970 [16:30] <BlackSheepie> I'm at a friend's house at the moment. When I get home I have a .jar for 1.1 on my Mac if anyone wants it
#1971 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Please don't distribute old files. It's against Mojang's TOS
#1972 [16:31] <BlackSheepie> Oh, sorry. Wasn't aware.
#1973 [16:31] <Daphonic> Hmm ok so i have a killer Rig. and i have 50mb down and 15mb up, Should the other person be rubberbanding?
#1974 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure you're trying to be helpful, but there's no guarantee that people sharing those files can be trusted. Files hosted not by Mojang can be compromised
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#1976 [16:31] <hoepen> BlackSheepie: I got: md5sum= a97d6de0c414b292076b0a75a98c070b for minecraft_server.jar (1345638 Bytes), so it's v1.2.2 (http://apocalyptech.com/minecraft/)
#1977 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Daphonic - Shouldn't be, I wasn't.
#1978 [16:32] <Largoh> I just updated to 1.2.2 but now I don't seem to be getting any monsters spawn. I've deleted the world several times and loaded old ones but still no joy
#1979 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Monsters only spawn at nighttime.
#1980 [16:32] <Grim_Reaper> Lies
#1981 [16:32] <Grim_Reaper> They spawn in the dark too ;-;
#1982 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Or in dark.
#1983 [16:33] * GreyVulpine kicks Grim_Reaper
#1983 [16:33] * Grim_Reaper yelps
#1983 [16:33] <Grim_Reaper> That wasn't nice ;-;
#1984 [16:33] * LovecraftianWug bashes your heads together
#1984 [16:33] <Grim_Reaper> That wasn't nice either..
#1985 [16:33] <LovecraftianWug> I'm not nice
#1986 [16:33] <Grim_Reaper> im /parting this evil hatred filled place ;-;
#1987 [16:33] <Grim_Reaper> im /parting this evil hatred filled place ;-;
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#1990 [16:33] * GreyVulpine sends cats after LovecraftianWug.
#1990 [16:33] <Largoh> I know that
#1991 [16:33] <Boreeas> Wug: y u lovecrafting?
#1992 [16:34] * Grim_Reaper slaps GreyVulpine around a bit with a drunk hooker
#1992 [16:34] <Boreeas> GreyVulpine: cat LovecraftianWug
#1993 [16:34] * Grim_Reaper slaps LovecraftianWug around a bit with a drunk hooker
#1993 [16:34] <Grim_Reaper> Thats payback >_>
#1994 [16:34] <Largoh> Day and night has been several times and we've had no monsters spawn at all
#1995 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Strange..
#1996 [16:34] <Largoh> I've gone down into caves and found nothing
#1997 [16:34] <Daphonic> Grey it was when he Ran far away
#1998 [16:34] <Grim_Reaper> Are you using any mods Largoh?
#1999 [16:34] <Boreeas> Largoh: What is the difficulty in the server.properties?
#2000 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Daphonic - Might I ask, how far?
#2001 [16:34] <LovecraftianWug> maybe you're just lucky
#2002 [16:34] <Grim_Reaper> Also is monster spawning enabled in the server.properties
#2003 [16:35] <Largoh> I've set difficulty to Hard to see if that works, but it's normally on Normal
#2004 [16:35] <Largoh> Mosters are on yes
#2005 [16:35] <Boreeas> Hmm
#2006 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Daphonic - There may be rubberbanding if he's extremely far, as in The End far.
#2007 [16:35] <Grim_Reaper> And are you using any mods?
#2008 [16:35] <Largoh> Plugins was just Craftbukkit with Keep items on respawn. Turned them off and tried vanilla and still same issue
#2009 [16:35] <Grim_Reaper> That is most odd
#2010 [16:36] <Grim_Reaper> Maybe try making a new worldwith vanilla
#2011 [16:36] <Grim_Reaper> See if monsters spawn
#2012 [16:36] <Largoh> Just trying that now
#2013 [16:36] <Largoh> Can I force it into night time?
#2014 [16:37] <Grim_Reaper> Errm, not on vanilla nope
#2015 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
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#2017 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> with /time set 18000?
#2018 [16:37] <Grim_Reaper> Oh right >_>
#2019 [16:37] <Grim_Reaper> I forgot about that
#2020 [16:37] <Largoh> I looked at that but didn't understand the value
#2021 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> 0-24000.
#2022 [16:37] <Largoh> I assumed it was an Int for hours
#2023 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> 0 is dawn
#2024 [16:37] <Finamenon> greyvulpine are you saying the world size more than doubled? O_o
#2025 [16:37] <Largoh> ah
#2026 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> Finamenon - I'm just telling you, what I just generated in 1.1 vs 1.2.2
#2027 [16:38] <Grim_Reaper> Finamenon when the convert happens. The files get backed up as well
#2028 [16:38] <Finamenon> holy crap D:
#2029 [16:38] <Finamenon> I dont have that kind of space on my ramdisk.. >< lol
#2030 [16:38] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#2031 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> I have no working 1.1 world to really convert.
#2032 [16:38] <Daphonic> Grey not far, just to a BIom across the lake
#2033 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Daphonic - Then there should be no reason why it should be rubberbanding, unless his connection is crap
#2034 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Daphonic - I wasn't rubberbanding at all
#2035 [16:39] <Daphonic> not sure
#2036 [16:39] <Finamenon> thanks for checking for me
#2037 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Monsters are working, I've gotten shot in the back by skellies on Daphonic's server
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#2039 [16:41] <Vvarius> What does the Anvil patch do? o.O
#2040 [16:42] <Grim_Reaper> Various changes to world generation
#2041 [16:42] <Grim_Reaper> It also ups the height limit for minecraft
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#2043 [16:44] <Largoh> Working again!
#2044 [16:47] <Grim_Reaper> :D
#2045 [16:47] <Grim_Reaper> Was it the world?
#2046 [16:50] <LovecraftianWug> ?mcp
#2047 [16:50] <LovecraftianWug> fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu
#2048 [16:50] <LovecraftianWug> vox you're a derp
#2049 [16:52] <Finamenon> ok take care people
#2050 [16:58] <Largoh> Must have been a combination of things. Remade the world with Vanilla and it worked. Really wanted craftbukkit though for that Keep Items mod :/ Ah well, I'm sure I can go without for a while
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#2052 [17:02] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: so after the Anvil update, the indev format doesn't get recongized anymore
#2053 [17:03] <tyteen4a03> my indev world just doesn't show up :P
#2054 [17:03] <Donarkhun> Hello, i have a problem for my account activation, (Donarkun) i have created it but there is no mail for active it
#2055 [17:03] <Donarkhun> Help please?
#2056 [17:04] <Donarkhun> ...
#2057 [17:05] <Donarkhun> I just want but
#2058 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/sendemailverification
#2059 [17:05] <LovecraftianWug> is the most recent version of the server 1.2.1 or 1.2.2
#2060 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> 1.2.2
#2061 [17:05] <Donarkhun> Nottin GreyVulpine..
#2062 [17:05] <LovecraftianWug> buh I somehow ended up with 1.2.1
#2063 [17:06] <LovecraftianWug> :server
#2064 [17:06] <WugBot> server: You can download the server by clicking the correct link: (For Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe ) (For Linux and OSX: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar )
#2065 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Donarkhun - Check your spam folder?
#2066 [17:06] <Donarkhun> yahoo mail is ok?
#2067 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2068 [17:06] <Donarkhun> notting..
#2069 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> You sure you used the right email address?
#2070 [17:07] <Donarkhun> yep
#2071 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Wait a little while, if it still doesn't get sent, try http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2072 [17:07] <Donarkhun> ..
#2073 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> As we're community-run support, we have no access to accounts. You'll need to contact Mojang directly
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#2075 [17:11] <Donarkhun> I don't know why i didn't receveid the email...
#2076 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> We don't know either, contact Mojang
#2077 [17:11] <Donarkhun> Aleready.
#2078 [17:12] <Donarkhun> Already*
#2079 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Then all you can do is wait for a reply
#2080 [17:13] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: just read the lastest chat in here, honestly thought i had accidentally scrolled up
#2081 [17:13] <sugoi> "we're community-run support" .. "wait for a reply"
#2082 [17:14] <sugoi> :)
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#2084 [17:20] <Donarkhun> There is notting..
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#2086 [17:22] <Donarkhun> It's too long
#2087 [17:22] <multirpg> Anyone else seen server and client both crash when testing the new height?
#2088 [17:22] <Donarkhun> I don't know why i don't receive this email
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#2091 [17:26] <Donarkhun> ...
#2092 [17:29] <Donarkhun> How long this can take?
#2093 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Mojang's based in Sweden. It can take some time for them to get back to you
#2094 [17:36] <Donarkhun> I'm French.
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#2096 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Yes. Do you work?
#2097 [17:37] <Donarkhun> I'm 13 years old ;)
#2098 [17:37] <Grim_Reaper> A frenchy :o
#2099 [17:37] <Donarkhun> :p
#2100 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Then you should know what times your parents work.
#2101 [17:37] <Grim_Reaper> <3
#2102 [17:37] * ahhhhdod [ahhhhdod@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2103 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> They don't work 24/7, right?
#2104 [17:37] <ahhhhdod> hi
#2105 [17:37] <Donarkhun> Yep Grey.
#2106 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Mojang doesn't either.
#2107 [17:37] <Donarkhun> I know
#2108 [17:37] <Grim_Reaper> What GreyVulpine is trying to say
#2109 [17:37] <Grim_Reaper> Is give about 3 working days to get a reply
#2110 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> So give them a little time to reply back to you
#2111 [17:37] <Donarkhun> I just hope i will receive it tomorrow
#2112 [17:38] <ahhhhdod> i just upgraded to minecraft server 1.2 and it is crashing with 2012-03-01 22:20:30 [INFO] Converting map! 2012-03-01 22:20:30 [SEVERE] Unexpected exception java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: Index: 1, Size: 1
#2113 [17:38] <sugoi> 'hoping' does tend to make a difference...
#2114 [17:38] <ahhhhdod> anyone seen this error?
#2115 [17:38] <Grim_Reaper> Also GreyVulpine Im charging you with sexual harrassment for kicking me ;-;
#2116 [17:38] <Grim_Reaper> I have not seen that error
#2117 [17:38] <sugoi> ahhhhdod: 1. plz use less 'h's, and 2. YES, someone was just here with that error
#2118 [17:38] * GreyVulpine dismisses the charges on grounds of "You deserved it"
#2118 [17:38] <ahhhhdod> i've also used chunkster, it appear to have cleaned out some errors
#2119 [17:38] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: someone had it just a little bit ago
#2120 [17:39] <sugoi> Grim_Reaper: **, not grey
#2121 [17:39] <Grim_Reaper> How did I deserve it
#2122 [17:39] <Grim_Reaper> I helped you ;-;
#2123 [17:39] <ahhhhdod> did he get a fix?
#2124 [17:39] <ahhhhdod> :)
#2125 [17:39] <Grim_Reaper> Oh sugoi. Didn't see
#2126 [17:39] <sugoi> ahhhhdod: please use shorted name, type /nick ahhdod
#2127 [17:39] <sugoi> ahhhhdod: shorter*, and no, no fix yet, try to contact mojang support and let them know of the bug
#2128 [17:39] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#2129 [17:40] <ahdodod> ok
#2130 [17:40] <Donarkhun> hmmm..
#2131 [17:40] <Donarkhun> I can't change my e-mail ?
#2132 [17:40] <Grim_Reaper> I for one am sueing you GreyVulpine D: ;_; Kicking me so hard just cause I helped you
#2133 [17:40] <ahdodod> is there a way to get a previous version of minecraft_server.jar?
#2134 [17:40] <Grim_Reaper> http://help.mojang.com/customer
#2135 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> ahdodod - No
#2136 [17:40] <ahdodod> i hate to leave the guys on my server hanging
#2137 [17:40] <Grim_Reaper> ahdodod no
#2138 [17:40] <sugoi> ahdodod: nope
#2139 [17:41] <sugoi> ahdodod: some ppl do put them on the internet, but they are NOT trusted
#2140 [17:41] <sugoi> so, just keep that in mind
#2141 [17:41] <Donarkhun> can change my email adress?
#2142 [17:41] * GreyVulpine countersues Grim_Reaper for undue mental anguish.
#2142 [17:41] <ahdodod> oh man. should have kept a backup on my minecraft_server.jar
#2143 [17:41] <Grim_Reaper> D:
#2144 [17:41] <Grim_Reaper> You are one evil person ;-;
#2145 [17:41] * Grim_Reaper hugs GreyVulpine none the less
#2145 [17:41] <Donarkhun> I want change the email of one account to change it with the new account
#2146 [17:42] <ahdodod> i do have minecraft1.0. you guys see a problem with going back to 1.0 after playing 1.1 for a while?
#2147 [17:42] <sugoi> ahdodod: your clients will
#2148 [17:42] <ahdodod> i mean, will it mess up the map?
#2149 [17:42] <Grim_Reaper> Donarkhun - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329523-how-do-i-change-the-email-address-linked-to-my-account-
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#2151 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> ahdodod - It could. There are some features in 1.1 that are not supported in 1.0
#2152 [17:42] <langkid1|cell> I got everyone in my school hooked on Minecraft
#2153 [17:43] <ahdodod> damn. hate to mess up the map even more
#2154 [17:43] <langkid1|cell> Now I see lots of MC shirts, and the word Minecraft every day
#2155 [17:43] <ahdodod> so, people who use mods, are they pretty much screwed?
#2156 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> ??>> sugoi distribution
#2157 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> ahdodod - Yup
#2158 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> habit?
#2159 [17:43] <langkid1|cell> ahdodod, what kind of mods?
#2160 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> Go yell at the mod's creators to update them
#2161 [17:44] <ahdodod> thing is, i haven't even used any mods and this thing is broke
#2162 [17:44] <ahdodod> damn
#2163 [17:44] <ahdodod> i did get this problem where there was a million sheep
#2164 [17:44] <langkid1|cell> If a mod adds blocks or items then Vanilla should remove the modded blocks
#2165 [17:44] <ahdodod> killed the server when anyone was near
#2166 [17:44] <ahdodod> cleaned it up with mcedit
#2167 [17:45] <ahdodod> then run chunkster, which looks like it cleaned up more stuff
#2168 [17:45] <ahdodod> is there a way to get more detailed logging message from the server?
#2169 [17:45] <ahdodod> say, [DEBUG] messages?
#2170 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> What you see in the console is what is logged.
#2171 [17:45] <Donarkhun> So, i have created a Mojang account, now, what i did do?
#2172 [17:46] <Donarkhun> must do*
#2173 [17:46] <ahdodod> yeah, it has [INFO] and [SERVERE], i wonder if there's a command line switch for [DEBUG]
#2174 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> There is not
#2175 [17:46] <Grim_Reaper> Couldn't you do it if you used the .jar though
#2176 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Donarkhun - Log into minecraft with it
#2177 [17:46] <Grim_Reaper> Or doesn't it support the debug messages
#2178 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> He's asking about the server console's messages
#2179 [17:47] <Donarkhun> Uhh..
#2180 [17:47] <Donarkhun> What GreyVulpine?
#2181 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> <@GreyVulpine> Donarkhun - Log into minecraft with it
#2182 [17:48] <Donarkhun> Yes but how?
#2183 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Use your email address you registered at account.mojang.com with, at minecraft.net
#2184 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> The email address is your username. Use the password you registered as your password at minecraft.net
#2185 [17:49] <Donarkhun> Ook.
#2186 [17:49] <Donarkhun> Unknow --'
#2187 [17:50] <Donarkhun> I tried but it's writed : Oops, unknown username or password.
#2188 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to log into account.mojang.com with it?
#2189 [17:50] <Donarkhun> I'm connected.
#2190 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> connected?
#2191 [17:50] <Donarkhun> Yes.
#2192 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Connected to?
#2193 [17:51] <Donarkhun> mojang
#2194 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Are you logged into the account page at mojang.com right now, using the account you just registered with?
#2195 [17:51] <Donarkhun> Uh..
#2196 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> https://account.mojang.com/login
#2197 [17:52] <Donarkhun> yes?
#2198 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> Then I have no idea.
#2199 [17:52] <Donarkhun> Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu..
#2200 [17:53] <Donarkhun> I just want buy the game!!
#2201 [17:54] <Donarkhun> ._.
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#2203 [17:54] <FizzyPop> Hi all. I just downloaded the new 1.2.2 jar (previously had 1.1). I noticed it automatically "converted" my world. Will it automatically put in the new stuff, like the jungle areas, or should I start a new world for full compatibility?
#2204 [17:55] <LovecraftianWug> that second one
#2205 [17:55] <LovecraftianWug> no reason you cant keep the old one though
#2206 [17:55] <FizzyPop> Ok
#2207 [17:55] <Grim_Reaper> You could technically.. edit the level.dat file to enable the new biomes to generate if you wanted
#2208 [17:55] <Grim_Reaper> You would have to use something like ntbedit
#2209 [17:55] <FizzyPop> well it was a pretty new world so ill just scrap it
#2210 [17:55] <Grim_Reaper> I did that for me
#2211 [17:56] <Grim_Reaper> mine*
#2212 [17:56] <FizzyPop> thanks!
#2213 [17:56] <FizzyPop> :D
#2214 [17:56] <Grim_Reaper> You have to simply change the generation setting to say "default"
#2215 [17:57] <Grim_Reaper> Night night ~
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#2217 [17:58] <Donarkhun> :(
#2218 [18:00] <Donarkhun> http://scrolls.com/
#2219 [18:00] <Donarkhun> ._.
#2220 [18:01] <Donarkhun> A french?
#2221 [18:03] <Donarkhun> Is it me or .minecraft ?
#2222 [18:04] <Donarkhun> I created my account, so, Donarkun/Password/Email.. All it's ok
#2223 [18:04] <Donarkhun> I don't know why this won't work :(
#2224 [18:05] <sugoi> Donarkhun: is this a new problem or are you still waiting for your support email response?
#2225 [18:05] <Donarkhun> Waiting..
#2226 [18:06] <Daphonic> did they ever put in Lanterns? or the Tourches last for ever still?
#2227 [18:07] <sugoi> Daphonic: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
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#2229 [18:10] <newbie> Every time i log onto minecraft, it says "Can't connect to minecraft.net" so I play offline. Then it loads super fast and i get a black screen. Please help!
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#2231 [18:10] <oldtopman> ??> newbie win/reinst/bat
#2232 [18:10] <VoxelHead> newbie: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2233 [18:10] <VoxelHead> newbie: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#2234 [18:11] <sugoi> oldtopman: did you see someone else had your map migration crash with 1.2
#2235 [18:11] <newbie> i'll try that!
#2236 [18:11] <oldtopman> sugoi: Who?
#2237 [18:11] <oldtopman> (no)
#2238 [18:11] <sugoi> oldtopman: just a visitor here
#2239 [18:11] <sugoi> -> ahdodod
#2240 [18:12] <oldtopman> :|
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#2242 [18:15] <rumpler> gust update to 1.2.2 and hit ahs a major lag
#2243 [18:16] <sugoi> rumpler: you server on 1.2.2 how gives client major lag?
#2244 [18:16] <newbie> Now it says "Can't connect to minecraft.net" and i can't play offline. @VoxelHead
#2245 [18:16] <rumpler> give lag
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#2247 [18:17] <rumpler> stops suudenmly
#2248 [18:17] <rumpler> suddenly
#2249 [18:17] <rumpler> the lag i bad
#2250 [18:17] <newbie> sits waitingly
#2251 [18:18] <rumpler> the lag is bad
#2252 [18:18] <sugoi> newbie: voxelhead is a bot, i see you were reinstalling bc you can't login but you play offline and it loads fast but you get black screen?
#2253 [18:18] <sugoi> rumpler: you're not the first to mention this - i bet there will be an update soon (i.e. 1.2.3)
#2254 [18:18] <newbie> yes!
#2255 [18:18] <rumpler> so i have to do offline
#2256 [18:18] <Donarkhun> .
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#2258 [18:19] <rumpler> what is the update
#2259 [18:19] <sugoi> newbie: so your issue hasn't changed?
#2260 [18:19] <sugoi> rumpler: there is no update yet, i just predict there will be one
#2261 [18:19] <sugoi> rumpler: can you revert to 1.1?
#2262 [18:19] <rumpler> no
#2263 [18:20] <rumpler> ok
#2264 [18:20] <sugoi> then local may be your only option in the interum
#2265 [18:20] <rumpler> do i have to be offline
#2266 [18:20] <rumpler> to have no lag
#2267 [18:21] <rumpler> hello
#2268 [18:21] <newbie> well, after i executed the script and it uninstalled minecraft, it said "Not Downloaded" under the play offline option. @sugoi
#2269 [18:21] <sugoi> rumpler: you don't have to be offline, that is your choice
#2270 [18:21] <sugoi> newbie: can you now try to login and let it update?
#2271 [18:22] <rumpler> how can i remove the lag
#2272 [18:22] <newbie> it says "can't connect to minecraft.net" @sugoi
#2273 [18:22] <rumpler> no
#2274 [18:23] <rumpler> i cant help you sugio
#2275 [18:23] <sugoi> rumpler: help _me_ ?
#2276 [18:24] <sugoi> !login
#2277 [18:24] <rumpler> i cant help you
#2278 [18:24] <sugoi> rumpler: i don't need help
#2279 [18:24] <sugoi> i'm good, man, i'm good
#2280 [18:24] <newbie> sugoi???
#2281 [18:24] <rumpler> why did you ask
#2282 [18:25] <sugoi> rumpler: i didn't
#2283 [18:25] <rumpler> ya
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#2285 [18:25] * sugoi sees a large miscommunication in progress
#2285 [18:25] <newbie> So, sugoi, can you help my issue?
#2286 [18:25] <sugoi> newbie: i would check firewalls
#2287 [18:26] <sugoi> newbie: make sure they are turned off, sometimes anti-virus doesn't like minecraft (java) trying to hit an external host (the login)
#2288 [18:26] <intangible> Can anyone help me? when i try to connect to a server it says "Connection reset Internal exception"
#2289 [18:26] <newbie> i already enable an exception for minecraft. @sugoi
#2290 [18:26] <sugoi> intangible: did you just update your server?
#2291 [18:26] <newbie> so it will let minecraft through. @sugoi
#2292 [18:26] <sugoi> newbie: try turning all anti-virus and firewalls off, just to test this
#2293 [18:26] <intangible> I just updated MC not the server
#2294 [18:27] <sugoi> newbie: if that fixes it - it means you setup the exception wrong
#2295 [18:27] <sugoi> intangible: they have to be the same version
#2296 [18:27] <sugoi> intangible: backup first
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#2298 [18:27] <rainbow> hi
#2299 [18:27] <sugoi> rainbow: sup
#2300 [18:28] <rainbow> when i try to connect to a server i get a java error
#2301 [18:28] <rainbow> :/
#2302 [18:28] <rainbow> on all of them
#2303 [18:28] <intangible> same problem here
#2304 [18:28] <sugoi> rainbow: intangible: did you upgrade your clients with 1.2?
#2305 [18:28] <newbie> how do i turn AVG 9.0 off? @sugoi
#2306 [18:29] <sugoi> perhaps those servers have not upgraded yet
#2307 [18:29] <intangible> It automatically updated when i logged in.
#2308 [18:29] <rainbow> and if they havent what happens?
#2309 [18:29] <rainbow> let me check brb
#2310 [18:29] <sugoi> newbie: first google hit: http://tinyurl.com/786rblz
#2311 [18:30] <rainbow> ok
#2312 [18:30] <rainbow> it updated why wont it work
#2313 [18:30] <sugoi> intangible: it gave you an option "do you want to update"
#2314 [18:30] <sugoi> intangible: when using servers, you need to wait until the server upgrades
#2315 [18:30] <sugoi> else you'll have this issue
#2316 [18:30] <intangible> ah ok, there are people in the server though.
#2317 [18:30] <sugoi> rainbow: the server is 1.2? and your client is 1.2?
#2318 [18:30] <rainbow> yesh
#2319 [18:31] <rainbow> yes
#2320 [18:31] <rainbow> how are the others on the server
#2321 [18:32] <newbie> turning them off did not fix it. @sugoi
#2322 [18:32] <sugoi> rainbow: what exactly is the error? and you pastebin the error?
#2323 [18:32] <sugoi> newbie: :(
#2324 [18:32] <ahdodod> can someone post a link to minecraft_server.jar for 1.1, i upgraded to 1.2.2 and still unable to launch the server without it crashing
#2325 [18:32] <newbie> wat now? @sugoi
#2326 [18:33] <sugoi> newbie: did it ever work?
#2327 [18:33] <sugoi> ahdodod: no, we cannot
#2328 [18:33] <sugoi> ahdodod: and i'll kick anyone who does
#2329 [18:34] <newbie> no. it won't connect to minecraft. I haven't ever gotten to play the game. :( @sugoi
#2330 [18:34] <intangible> the error says " Connection lost Internal exception: java.net.socketexception: connection reset"
#2331 [18:34] <ahdodod> what can i do now? i have 20 people who paid for the game on my server, they are not going to be happy in a couple of hours when they get off work.
#2332 [18:34] <sugoi> newbie: it really sounds like your computer is blocking minecraft somewhere...this is not a new issue, others see it
#2333 [18:34] <sugoi> newbie: do you have >1 antivirus?
#2334 [18:35] <rainbow> internal exception: java.net.SocketException: connection reset
#2335 [18:35] <newbie> AVG 9.0 is what i use. @sugoi
#2336 [18:35] <sugoi> ahdodod: honestly, you can look elsewhere for the 1.1, but be warned, mojang will not have a link for it, and it will be an untrusted source
#2337 [18:35] <sugoi> rainbow: saw the first one
#2338 [18:35] <Eddie> AVG means average
#2339 [18:35] <ahdodod> yeah. i failed at google. :/
#2340 [18:35] <Eddie> :3
#2341 [18:35] <sugoi> rainbow: which version of java
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#2343 [18:36] <ahdodod> am i the only one who has problems with the new 1.2.2 release?
#2344 [18:36] <sugoi> ahdodod: i can't endorse anything you find, but if i were you, that'd be my best option
#2345 [18:36] <chrismatta> hello, forgive me if this has been a constant question all day but is the 1.2.2 server out?
#2346 [18:36] <sugoi> ahdodod: actually, i know other server people, [besides my own backups]
#2347 [18:36] <sugoi> ahdodod: but i can't distribute for mojang
#2348 [18:36] <sugoi> chrismatta: yes
#2349 [18:36] <chrismatta> it's not on the main download page as far as I can tell, the one available is still 1.1.
#2350 [18:36] <sugoi> rainbow: java 7 has issues, will give you socket exception
#2351 [18:37] <ahdodod> really?
#2352 [18:37] <ahdodod> let me see
#2353 [18:37] <sugoi> rainbow: if you have 7, uninstall and get 6
#2354 [18:37] <sugoi> chrismatta: oh really?
#2355 [18:37] <ahdodod> i used mineos, and just clicked on update
#2356 [18:37] <newbie> Sugoi???
#2357 [18:37] <rainbow> so what do you recomend
#2358 [18:37] <sugoi> newbie: all i can say is something on your computer is blocking that java application from running
#2359 [18:38] <rainbow> ok
#2360 [18:38] <newbie> any ideas? @sugoi
#2361 [18:38] <rainbow> how
#2362 [18:38] <sugoi> newbie: i'm out of options myself, ask here again later or go to the forums
#2363 [18:38] <rainbow> sorry i know your busy
#2364 [18:38] <newbie> I already checked the forums :( @sugoi
#2365 [18:39] <ahdodod> chrismatta: http://www.minecraft.net/download
#2366 [18:39] <sugoi> newbie: did you disable your windows firewall?
#2367 [18:39] <ahdodod> that's 1.1?
#2368 [18:39] <ahdodod> looks like it should be 1.2
#2369 [18:39] <sugoi> ahdodod: i'm checking that now
#2370 [18:39] <sugoi> ahdodod: no, that's 1.2.2
#2371 [18:39] <newbie> yes. maybe i could try taking off the exception? @sugoi
#2372 [18:39] <sugoi> newbie: first, completely turn OFF the firewall
#2373 [18:39] <chrismatta> this is 1.2?
#2374 [18:39] <chrismatta> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe
#2375 [18:40] <sugoi> rainbow: to remove java 7 you can find it in your programs list
#2376 [18:40] <rainbow> thanks
#2377 [18:40] <sugoi> chrismatta: yes
#2378 [18:40] <rainbow> it came when i got my op
#2379 [18:40] <chrismatta> when I download it and run it it starts up as 1.1
#2380 [18:40] <newbie> how exactly? @sugoi
#2381 [18:40] <rainbow> i mean os
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#2383 [18:41] <chrismatta> do I have to give it a flag?
#2384 [18:41] <sugoi> rainbow: visit
#2385 [18:41] <dervishkid> i noticed that zombies and skeletion not burn in day light now
#2386 [18:41] <sugoi> http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2387 [18:41] <sugoi> dervishkid: weird, that doesn't sound right
#2388 [18:42] <sugoi> rainbow: what version does it say you have?
#2389 [18:42] <dervishkid> ya not sure
#2390 [18:42] <newbie> sugoi?
#2391 [18:42] <rainbow> io have 6
#2392 [18:42] <dervishkid> i shut down the bukkitt serverand just put it back up in vallnie mode
#2393 [18:42] <rainbow> i have 6
#2394 [18:42] <chrismatta> yea, I just re-downloaded it and it says it's version 1.1
#2395 [18:42] <chrismatta> odd
#2396 [18:42] <dervishkid> 1.2 nothing added but i seen lighting issues and none day light burning skeletions ect
#2397 [18:43] <chrismatta> the jar file is 1.2.2
#2398 [18:43] <chrismatta> the .exe is 1.1
#2399 [18:43] <sugoi> rainbow: good, then i'm out of ideas besides making sure your client and server version match exactly
#2400 [18:43] <Cookies> On terrain.png, what are the two textures on the far right, immediately below full-stage wheat?
#2401 [18:43] <newbie> SUGOI?
#2402 [18:43] <rainbow> ok thanks
#2403 [18:43] <sugoi> newbie: patience bro, sup?
#2404 [18:43] <newbie> oh, sorry. : /
#2405 [18:43] <sugoi> chrismatta: really?
#2406 [18:44] <chrismatta> yea
#2407 [18:44] <chrismatta> the jar is 1.2.2
#2408 [18:44] <chrismatta> the exe is 1.1
#2409 [18:44] <sugoi> newbie: you are asking how to turn off the firewall?
#2410 [18:44] <sugoi> newbie: what OS version?
#2411 [18:44] <chrismatta> i can use the .jar, no big deal
#2412 [18:44] <sugoi> chrismatta: no the exe is 1.2.2
#2413 [18:44] <sugoi> that's the one i just tested
#2414 [18:44] <newbie> Windows Xp Version 5.1 @sugoi
#2415 [18:45] <sugoi> newbie: been too long, look in control panel for firewall
#2416 [18:45] <chrismatta> that's weird
#2417 [18:45] <newbie> found it. now? @sugoi
#2418 [18:45] <chrismatta> maybe there's a cached version on amazon for my region
#2419 [18:45] <chrismatta> who knows
#2420 [18:46] <sugoi> newbie: turn off the firewall. read this for more help: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283673
#2421 [18:46] <sugoi> chrismatta: seems unlikely, i bet your not running what you think you are
#2422 [18:46] <newbie> been turned off. now wat? @sugoi
#2423 [18:46] <chrismatta> thanks for the help
#2424 [18:46] <sugoi> newbie: try to connect again
#2425 [18:46] <sugoi> start up minecraft again, login
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#2427 [18:47] <newbie> not working. @sugoi
#2428 [18:47] <whoreslut> hi
#2429 [18:47] <sugoi> whoreslut: welcome back
#2430 [18:48] <whoreslut> umm
#2431 [18:48] <sugoi> newbie: sorry - i'm out of ideas
#2432 [18:48] <whoreslut> sorry
#2433 [18:48] <sugoi> newbie: wyou can try again later
#2434 [18:48] <sugoi> here ---
#2435 [18:48] <whoreslut> i left my computer unattended
#2436 [18:48] <sugoi> newbie: you are welcome to hangout here too
#2437 [18:48] <whoreslut> sorry
#2438 [18:48] <newbie> any other ideas before i go? @sugoi
#2439 [18:48] <sugoi> newbie: if you see another member speak, you can ask them (someone with a '+' or '@' in front of their name)
#2440 [18:49] <sugoi> newbie: what version of java do you have?
#2441 [18:49] <newbie> java 6, update 31 @sugoi
#2442 [18:50] <sugoi> yeah, i'm out of ideas
#2443 [18:51] <sugoi> newbie: it really does sound like your computer is blocking minecraft. i know we've turned off your anti virus and firewall, that should be enough. but you've said the game plays locally fine, so something else is blocking the connectino
#2444 [18:52] <newbie> not exactly, after i press play offline, it gets a black screen. any ideas on how to fix that? @sugoi
#2445 [18:52] <sugoi> newbie: THAT sounds like video card support
#2446 [18:52] <sugoi> ?? dxdiag > newbie
#2447 [18:53] <sugoi> erm
#2448 [18:53] <sugoi> :dxdiag > newbie
#2449 [18:53] <sugoi> double erm
#2450 [18:53] <sugoi> :(
#2451 [18:53] <newbie> i have THAT! how to i post the link?
#2452 [18:53] <newbie> @sugoi
#2453 [18:53] <sugoi> you made a dxdiag report to pastebin?
#2454 [18:53] <sugoi> !dxdiag
#2455 [18:54] <sugoi> : dxdiag/win
#2456 [18:54] * sugoi gives up
#2456 [18:54] <newbie> no, how are you going to read my dxdiag?
#2457 [18:55] <newbie> @sugoi
#2458 [18:55] <sugoi> newbie: open dxdiag, save the report, copy that text to http://pastebin.com (and hit submit on that website), then copy the new address in your browser and paste that here
#2459 [18:59] <newbie> http://pastebin.com/pJceRsGB here. @sugoi
#2460 [19:01] <sugoi> newbie: btw, if you start your text here with 'sugoi: '
#2461 [19:01] <sugoi> it help notify me
#2462 [19:01] <sugoi> helps*
#2463 [19:02] <sugoi> newbie: your laptop uses an integrated chipset for graphics, and it isn't that new
#2464 [19:03] <newbie> Sugoi:so, i can't play minecraft EVER?
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#2466 [19:07] <newbie> sugoi: so, i can't play minecraft EVER?
#2467 [19:08] <sugoi> sec
#2468 [19:10] <sugoi> newbie: try this driver (this is directly from intel) http://tinyurl.com/7lx4egq
#2469 [19:10] <sugoi> newbie: try this driver (this is directly from intel) http://tinyurl.com/7lx4egq
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#2471 [19:11] <newbie> sugoi: okay. btw, thanks for helping! i'm not going yet.
#2472 [19:13] <newbie> sugoi; it is installing. hope it works! :)
#2473 [19:13] <newbie> have to restart pc, brb!
#2474 [19:15] <ertyuiop99> GreyVulpine: Actually, once I think about it, there is a nice little crow command called deadfly. Which pretty much strips the link of it's adf.ly redirect and gives you the original
#2475 [19:15] <ertyuiop99> No idea how it works, but it does. No waiting 5 seconds for a response too
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#2477 [19:17] <Dragunov> Hello
#2478 [19:18] <Dragunov> Where do i get charcoal
#2479 [19:21] <sugoi> Dragunov: retail stores carry it
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#2481 [19:21] <sugoi> Dragunov: albertsons, for example
#2482 [19:22] <sugoi> http://tinyurl.com/6q9uv3p
#2483 [19:22] <newbie> sugoi: i'm back, and i installed that download. now what?
#2484 [19:22] <sugoi> newbie: hopefully you video card is smarter now
#2485 [19:22] <sugoi> newbie: startup minecraft (local play)
#2486 [19:22] <newbie> okay! :)
#2487 [19:23] <Dragunov> wat do you mean
#2488 [19:23] <Dragunov> By the way i got question answered:D
#2489 [19:23] <Dragunov> need to burn logs to get charcoal
#2490 [19:23] <Dragunov> now i only need to find stone
#2491 [19:24] <Dragunov> to make oven
#2492 [19:24] <sugoi> Dragunov: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Coal_%28Item%29#Charcoal
#2493 [19:25] <Dragunov> oh thats a nice website
#2494 [19:25] <newbie> sugoi: it isn't working. :'(
#2495 [19:25] <Dragunov> do u know how to findout what time is it now in minecraft?
#2496 [19:27] <ahdodod> hey sugoi
#2497 [19:27] <ahdodod> mojang.com is official?
#2498 [19:28] <ahdodod> there seems to be minecraft_server.jar's there
#2499 [19:28] <ahdodod> any issue with using those?
#2500 [19:30] <sugoi> ahdodod: no, but they are probably 1.2.2, if you see one that isn't, let me know
#2501 [19:30] <sugoi> no == mojang.com is official
#2502 [19:30] <ahdodod> oh, they are not official? whoa
#2503 [19:31] <newbie> sugoi?
#2504 [19:31] <Scott> Mojang AB is the developer of Minecraft...
#2505 [19:31] <ahdodod> that site looks pretty official to me
#2506 [19:31] <sugoi> Dragunov: you can make a watch, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Clock
#2507 [19:31] <sugoi> ahdodod: we are not communicating well, double negative
#2508 [19:32] <sugoi> ahdodod: mojang IS official, downloads you see there are good
#2509 [19:32] <sugoi> ahdodod: if they are providing 1.1 still, i'd be interested in knowing
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#2511 [19:32] <newbie> r u there sugoi?
#2512 [19:33] <ahdodod> if i have 1.2.2 client, can i connect to 1.1 server?
#2513 [19:33] <sugoi> newbie: i am
#2514 [19:33] <sugoi> ahdodod: no
#2515 [19:33] <sugoi> versions need to match
#2516 [19:33] <ahdodod> omg damnz
#2517 [19:33] <sugoi> afaik
#2518 [19:33] <newbie> Sugoi: it is not working.
#2519 [19:33] <sugoi> Scott: client-server version matching?
#2520 [19:33] <sugoi> with 1.2
#2521 [19:33] <sugoi> newbie: sorry bro
#2522 [19:34] <sugoi> newbie: it sounds like on your current computer, you won't be able to play
#2523 [19:34] <sugoi> need a bit more muscle
#2524 [19:36] <Dragunov> Anyone would like to help a new player build a house or something? :D i love this game
#2525 [19:36] <ahdodod> yeah. so that appears to be the problem
#2526 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZJzuSjIcAA
#2527 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> How to build a cosy cottage
#2528 [19:36] <ahdodod> minecraft_server.jar 1.2 crashes on load
#2529 [19:36] <ahdodod> minecraft_server 1.1 works fine
#2530 [19:37] <ahdodod> on my map anyway, vanilla, never been modded
#2531 [19:37] <Dragunov> i cant find stone to make it for some reason
#2532 [19:37] <Dragunov> is the minecraft map randomized or something
#2533 [19:37] <sugoi> ahdodod: so client is 1.2, happy to connect to server 1.1?
#2534 [19:40] <sugoi> Dragunov: all random
#2535 [19:40] <sugoi> Dragunov: you can pick cobblestone, then melt it down to stone
#2536 [19:40] <sugoi> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Stone
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#2538 [19:41] <ogllyboogly> how to update a server to 2.1?
#2539 [19:42] <ogllyboogly> its a server ran through my own ip
#2540 [19:42] <sugoi> ogllyboogly: you mean 1.2? go to minecraft.net/downloads
#2541 [19:42] <sugoi> ogllyboogly: back it up first, some people have had issues with 1.2
#2542 [19:42] <ogllyboogly> oh yea 1.2 lol ok if i download that then how do i copy my world over
#2543 [19:43] <ogllyboogly> i know how to setup a server do i just copy my old world into that folder or do i run the new server.exe
#2544 [19:43] <ogllyboogly> in my current folder
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#2546 [19:44] <CJ> I have this error. Can anyone tell me how to resolve it or anything past the obvious? I know that it involves mods, sorry. 19:42 Cannot send to channel: #minecraft 19:42 CJ http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1062408-mod-click-error/page__fromsearch__1
#2547 [19:44] <sugoi> ogllyboogly: well either works
#2548 [19:44] <sugoi> ogllyboogly: i would backup, and then just run in current folder
#2549 [19:44] <ogllyboogly> ok thanks ill try now
#2550 [19:44] <CJ> I have this error. Can anyone tell me how to resolve it or anything past the obvious? I know that it involves mods, sorry. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1062408-mod-click-error/page__fromsearch__1
#2551 [19:44] <sugoi> CJ: #bukkit is a better mod channel, also, go to the people that made the mod
#2552 [19:44] <sugoi> :mods > CJ
#2553 [19:44] <WugBot> CJ: (mods) This channel provides support for the vanilla (unmodded) version of minecraft. If you are having trouble playing one of the first things we'll ask you to do is remove any texture packs or mods.
#2554 [19:44] <WugBot> CJ: (mods) Support for bukkit can be found in #bukkit. Most usually come with instructions, make sure you read them. Also, you can try youtube for video tutorials.
#2555 [19:45] <ogllyboogly> cj just go into app dats and deleate your bin folder for mod troubles it will give you a fresh minecraft update
#2556 [19:45] <CJ> I said I was sorry but I can't read it. can you tell me which mod?
#2557 [19:45] <ogllyboogly> your mods will be deleated though
#2558 [19:45] <ogllyboogly> most mods wont work atm not updated to 1.2
#2559 [19:52] <ogllyboogly> it worked ty
#2560 [19:53] <ahdodod> fyi: im running a snapshot, pre 1.2
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#2562 [19:54] <ahdodod> it's the only way to get the server up and running. both client and server needs to match
#2563 [19:54] <sugoi> ahdodod: ok
#2564 [19:54] <sugoi> so no to 1.1(c) on 1.2(s)
#2565 [19:54] <ahdodod> no
#2566 [19:54] <sugoi> k
#2567 [19:54] <ahdodod> i can't find those :p
#2568 [19:54] <sugoi> didn't think so, just wanted to confirm
#2569 [19:55] <sugoi> can't find which?
#2570 [19:55] <ahdodod> just curious, why have that policy?
#2571 [19:55] <ahdodod> not allowing older builds
#2572 [19:55] <sugoi> ahdodod: i don't think it has always been that way, but this is definitely a breaking change in the server with the chuncks and data ids
#2573 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> New builds, new features, new net code, new blocks, new biomes, new everything
#2574 [19:55] <sugoi> personally, i hate making software backwards compatable
#2575 [19:56] <ahdodod> i do a google search and i see the same error i have in various pastbins
#2576 [19:56] <sugoi> i wish we could always force our users to migrate
#2577 [19:56] <ahdodod> that's fine
#2578 [19:56] <sugoi> ahdodod: but, some old GreyVulpine
#2579 [19:56] <ahdodod> but it can't whip the old data
#2580 [19:56] <sugoi> he hasn't changed in millenia
#2581 [19:56] <ahdodod> right now, if i update, my old data is gone
#2582 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> Old data?
#2583 [19:56] <ahdodod> the old maps
#2584 [19:56] <ahdodod> i can create a new map with 1.2
#2585 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> you can also play 1.1 maps in 1.2
#2586 [19:57] <ahdodod> but my vanilla 1.1 map crashes on loading
#2587 [19:57] <ahdodod> i think on converting
#2588 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> It'll convert
#2589 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> If you're running any mods, minecraft won't know what to do with them, and crash
#2590 [19:57] <ahdodod> 2012-03-01 22:09:10 [INFO] Converting map! 2012-03-01 22:09:10 [SEVERE] Unexpected exception java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: Index: 1, Size: 1
#2591 [19:57] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: two ppl have come here about map conversion failure (index out of range error)
#2592 [19:57] <ahdodod> no mods
#2593 [19:57] <ahdodod> all vanilla
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#2595 [19:57] <sugoi> out of bounds, silly java
#2596 [19:57] <ahdodod> this is also a vanilla map from 1.1
#2597 [19:58] <ahdodod> maybe 1.0
#2598 [19:58] <ahdodod> it's about 2 months old
#2599 [19:58] <sugoi> ahdodod: i'll try to update my map right now, sec
#2600 [19:58] <ahdodod> although i did have that sheep problem, got a million sheeps
#2601 [19:58] <ahdodod> had to delete them with mcedit
#2602 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin the error?
#2603 [19:58] <ahdodod> i think someone else already did, let me check
#2604 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> I need your stacktrace
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#2606 [19:59] <night98> i want to run a wom server where do i go
#2607 [19:59] <ahdodod> here's mine
#2608 [19:59] <ahdodod> http://pastebin.com/x9FEuKff
#2609 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Google. WoM
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#2611 [20:01] <ahdodod> i also ran chunkster, removed all entities
#2612 [20:01] <ahdodod> no help
#2613 [20:02] <ahdodod> but it still runs on an old snapshot just fine, pre 1.2
#2614 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Converter's choking on something. I have no idea what.
#2615 [20:03] <sugoi> ahdodod: convert succeeded
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#2617 [20:06] <ahdodod> is there a command line option to convert?
#2618 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe so
#2619 [20:06] <sugoi> don't think so, i just started it
#2620 [20:06] <ahdodod> i see other people's logs, i don't even get pass 1%
#2621 [20:06] <ahdodod> well, it doesn't even say
#2622 [20:07] <ahdodod> do you guys have access to the source code?
#2623 [20:08] <ahdodod> im not asking for it, just wondering if i can give you the map for debugging :D
#2624 [20:08] <ahdodod> since this is vanilla, im sure others will have the same issue
#2625 [20:09] <sugoi> ahdodod: we're not mojang devs
#2626 [20:09] * sugoi is actually an autodesk dev
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#2627 [20:09] <KoS> GO GO GO !!! IP : 109.239.156.118:25565
#2628 [20:09] * Volcris [Volcris@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2629 [20:09] <sugoi> ;check KoS
#2630 [20:09] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: AAmiens-154-1-4-20.w83-192.abo.wanadoo.fr:25565 (Timed out)
#2631 [20:09] <ahdodod> so you guys just do this for fun?
#2632 [20:09] <ahdodod> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1047558-minecraft-severe-problem/
#2633 [20:09] <sugoi> ;check 109.239.156.118:25565
#2634 [20:09] <WugBot> 109.239.156.118:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Bienvenue Chez les Project-X (2/10)
#2635 [20:09] <Volcris> can any one answer a technical question about the new patch?
#2636 [20:09] <ahdodod> this other guy have a similar problem
#2637 [20:09] <KoS> GO GO GO !!! IP : 109.239.156.118:25565
#2638 [20:10] * sugoi grumbles
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#2639 [20:10] <CaptCody> Hi
#2640 [20:10] <sugoi> Volcris: go for it
#2641 [20:10] <sugoi> CaptCody: hi
#2642 [20:10] <sugoi> ahdodod: yep, for fun
#2643 [20:10] <CaptCody> I need help about my AllGamer.net server
#2644 [20:10] <CaptCody> .
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#2646 [20:10] <sugoi> CaptCody: does AG have a customer support line you can contact?
#2647 [20:10] <CaptCody> \Anybody know how to update my 1.1 allgamer to 1.2
#2648 [20:10] <CaptCody> No
#2649 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Send a ticket into AG.
#2650 [20:10] <CaptCody> AG isnt on
#2651 [20:10] <ahdodod> good stuff
#2652 [20:10] <Volcris> I host a server for a couple of friends and my girlfriend off my computer, before the new patch it ran just fine ( I was running vanilla 1.1, no snap shots) since then, even when I connect to it alone I'm getting the "Can't keep up!" warning
#2653 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> AG will give you support via their support ticket system
#2654 [20:11] <sugoi> CaptCody: log into the server and put in 1.2
#2655 [20:11] <Scott> You should submit a ticket at https://allgamer.net/clients/clientarea.php, CaptCody.
#2656 [20:11] <sugoi> CaptCody: we aren't ag, use their ticket system
#2657 [20:11] <CaptCody> aww man wtf :(
#2658 [20:11] <Volcris> any one know what problem I'm running into?
#2659 [20:11] <Scott> This isn't the appropriate venue to get support.
#2660 [20:11] <Donarkhun> Fuuu...
#2661 [20:11] <Donarkhun> There is notting!
#2662 [20:11] <Donarkhun> I'm waiting for this fucking email :(
#2663 [20:11] * AuBot kicked Donarkhun from #minecrafthelp (Reason: onarkhun :Please keep it civil.)
#2664 [20:11] <CaptCody> Scott will you actually READ my ticket.
#2665 [20:11] <Scott> You can upgrade by clicking About > Updates > Update Minecraft though.
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#2667 [20:11] <CaptCody> I did.
#2668 [20:11] <CaptCody> It didnt work
#2669 [20:11] <wnfakind> S
#2670 [20:11] <Scott> Then it should upgrade.
#2671 [20:11] <CaptCody> and my server freezes on Server is Online but players can not connect.
#2672 [20:11] <Scott> If you submit a ticket, we'll certainly take a look.
#2673 [20:12] <Scott> We don't provide support over IRC officially.
#2674 [20:12] <sugoi> Volcris: that is odd, haven't heard that one yat
#2675 [20:12] <CaptCody> Because any information typed here is not safe I haz heard it before.
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#2678 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> The "Can't keep up" message is really nothing to be concerned about
#2679 [20:12] <sugoi> CaptCody: scott is kind enough to help you, but this is not AG's irc, they don't support over irc
#2680 [20:13] <Volcris> mhm, I checked ping, Checked my hardware and monitored usage, it's not even remotely stressing my rig, and my ping is fine, but it keeps overloading and booting me, even when solo connected.
#2681 [20:13] <Scott> GreyVulpine: op me :(
#2682 [20:13] <Tarry> Hi guys.
#2683 [20:13] <Donarkun> I want this confirmation mail
#2684 [20:13] <sugoi> Donarkun: give them a few days
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#2686 [20:13] <Scott> I have to get Kealper to fix my access on AuBot.
#2687 [20:13] <Tarry> I don't know if this is a common problem with the new patch, but Minecraft keeps crashing on me. It doesn't give an error, it just flat out vanishes.
#2688 [20:13] <Donarkun> Anyone know what is the problem? I send a confirmation mail to my e-mail
#2689 [20:13] <Tarry> I'm running Windows 7 64 bit.
#2690 [20:13] <Donarkun> But i have'nt receveid it
#2691 [20:13] <Donarkun> But i have'nt receveid it
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#2693 [20:13] <sugoi> Donarkun: this is a warning, we've told you it takes a few days
#2694 [20:14] <Donarkun> What?
#2695 [20:14] <Scott> Thank you, GreyVulpine.
#2696 [20:14] <sugoi> Tarry: does it create an error report?
#2697 [20:14] <Tarry> It makes a hr_err_pid# yes.
#2698 [20:14] <sugoi> :pastebin
#2699 [20:14] <WugBot> pastebin: Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#2700 [20:14] <sugoi> Tarry: read that ^
#2701 [20:14] <sugoi> paste your error there
#2702 [20:14] <Tarry> Okay
#2703 [20:14] <Tarry> One sec.
#2704 [20:15] <CaptCody> okay Wugbot
#2705 [20:15] <CaptCody> :pastebin
#2706 [20:15] <WugBot> pastebin: Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#2707 [20:15] <CaptCody> :D
#2708 [20:15] <CaptCody> Wugbot who are u
#2709 [20:15] <sugoi> CaptCody: he's a bot
#2710 [20:15] <Tarry> pastebin.com/sByXaC8B
#2711 [20:15] <sugoi> CaptCody: let's use those msg's when ppl need them
#2712 [20:15] <sugoi> Tarry: k
#2713 [20:15] <CaptCody> Oho.
#2714 [20:15] <CaptCody> help me
#2715 [20:15] <WugBot> CaptCody: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#2716 [20:15] <CaptCody> Help?
#2717 [20:16] <sugoi> Tarry: ati driver update, maybe
#2718 [20:16] <CaptCody> lol wugbot. Wugbot rocks.
#2719 [20:16] <Tarry> I have drivers recent to about a few weeks ago.
#2720 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Wipe .minecraft, reinstall ati drivers
#2721 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> ??> Tarry win/reinst
#2722 [20:16] <VoxelHead> Tarry: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2723 [20:16] <VoxelHead> Tarry: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2724 [20:17] <Tarry> Hmm.
#2725 [20:17] <Tarry> I'll give it a shot.
#2726 [20:17] <sugoi> CaptCody: do you have other questions besides your AG server issue?
#2727 [20:17] <CaptCody> Yes.
#2728 [20:17] <sugoi> ok, what?
#2729 [20:17] <CaptCody> The new Mob AI.
#2730 [20:17] <CaptCody> I need to know more about it than the description on the client.
#2731 [20:17] <sugoi> heh :)
#2732 [20:17] <CaptCody> Can you please tell me more in PM
#2733 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Zombies will find a path to the nearest door and start pounding it in
#2734 [20:18] <sugoi> CaptCody: the best i have for you is: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#2735 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Mobs will have semi-intelligent pathing, instead of just going in a straight line towards their target
#2736 [20:18] <Volcris> what difficulties do zombies attack doors on? if you don't mind me asking
#2737 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Hard+
#2738 [20:18] <Volcris> thank you
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#2740 [20:19] <wnfakind> Hey does anyone know if the jungle biome will generate in current world's?
#2741 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2742 [20:19] <wnfakind> Excellent
#2743 [20:19] <Daphonic> command to turn raid off?
#2744 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> raid?
#2745 [20:19] <Daphonic> rain
#2746 [20:19] <Daphonic> sorry
#2747 [20:19] <Daphonic> its laggin one our ppl out
#2748 [20:19] <wnfakind> So If I take a look around through the map i had before 1.2 there should be a jungle now?
#2749 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> No vanilla command exists to do that
#2750 [20:19] <wnfakind> -_-
#2751 [20:20] <Tarry> I have the latest AMD drivers.
#2752 [20:20] <Tarry> Re-installing Minecraft
#2753 [20:20] <Tarry> Or rather re-downloading.
#2754 [20:20] <Daphonic> ok its /toggledownfall THANKS!
#2755 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> wnfakind - Any chunks already generated will not be changed. To have new features, you would need to go to the edge of current worlds
#2756 [20:21] <Scott> CaptCody: Are you wanting the vanilla server?
#2757 [20:21] <wnfakind> So, this update map the world map bigger? Anything prior to 1.1 is still the world, but the area has been increase?
#2758 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> Right
#2759 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> The height limit has been increased from 128 to 256
#2760 [20:22] <Tarry> It's no longer crashing. Thank you.
#2761 [20:22] <wnfakind> Time for some world edit when bukkit works
#2762 [20:22] <wnfakind> lol
#2763 [20:22] <sugoi> Tarry: nice
#2764 [20:22] <wnfakind> Thanks greyvulpine
#2765 [20:22] * GreyVulpine nods
#2765 [20:22] <DreadLindwyrm> So does this mean the ground is higher as well, or is there just more sky to build into?
#2766 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> More sky
#2767 [20:23] <Volcris> ok guys, I reset the server, and started a new map to see if a fresh map would help in the new format (after backing up the old one) and this happened: http://pastebin.com/zDYDM674 and that is with 0 players in the server
#2768 [20:23] <oldtopman> Volcris: Yeah, so?
#2769 [20:24] <Donarkun> The minecraft.fr site is...
#2770 [20:24] <Volcris> why is it saying it is overloaded with 0 people? I'm confused
#2771 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> The "Can't keep up" message is inconsequential. It's not an error.
#2772 [20:24] <Donarkun> I tried with others emails, but: notting
#2773 [20:24] <Donarkun> It's not me, this is them
#2774 [20:24] <Volcris> well, it's also booting me and lagging, two things it didn't do before it started spewing that message
#2775 [20:24] <Donarkun> minecraft.net*
#2776 [20:25] <Donarkun> Grey
#2777 [20:25] <Donarkun> Has you got an hotmail ?
#2778 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> No.
#2779 [20:25] <wnfakind> Hey GreyVulpine I just redownloaded my world backup, it's stil the same size as before
#2780 [20:25] <Donarkun> Hum
#2781 [20:25] <wnfakind> if they increase the world size fort the jungle biome
#2782 [20:25] <Donarkun> I think it's minecraft.net
#2783 [20:25] <wnfakind> the file hsould be bigger
#2784 [20:25] <Donarkun> Not me, because i tried with other emails
#2785 [20:25] <sugoi> Donarkun: it takes a few business days for a reply
#2786 [20:25] <Donarkun> To suscribe and there is notting
#2787 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> wnfakind - It should be bigger, after converting
#2788 [20:25] <Donarkun> sugoi,
#2789 [20:26] <wnfakind> Converting, i must have missed something...
#2790 [20:26] <wnfakind> ?
#2791 [20:26] <Donarkun> Just minecraft.net
#2792 [20:26] <Donarkun> It's not me
#2793 [20:26] <wnfakind> Im using clanforge..
#2794 [20:26] <Donarkun> They don't send any email
#2795 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Donarkun - Contact Mojang. It'll take a few days for them to respond. We can do nothing about account issues here
#2796 [20:26] <Donarkun> Already.
#2797 [20:26] <Donarkun> I know
#2798 [20:26] <Donarkun> It's just minecraft.net
#2799 [20:26] <Donarkun> They had a problem i think
#2800 [20:27] <Donarkun> OOooooohhh.
#2801 [20:27] <Donarkun> I received a confirm e-mail ._.
#2802 [20:27] * sugoi facepalms
#2802 [20:27] * GreyVulpine hahs
#2802 [20:27] <Donarkun> but not for the real account..
#2803 [20:27] * sugoi deleted his kick command in progress
#2803 [20:27] <Donarkun> Oh and it's not very important
#2804 [20:27] <Donarkun> I just added 1 "n" to ne name: DonNarkhun
#2805 [20:28] <Donarkun> (not with MAJ)
#2806 [20:28] <CaptCody> donarkun
#2807 [20:28] <Donarkun> ?
#2808 [20:28] <CaptCody> it has to change the file type
#2809 [20:28] <CaptCody> from whatever you have
#2810 [20:28] <CaptCody> to anvil
#2811 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> .mcr to .mca
#2812 [20:28] <CaptCody> it incrases the hight limit from 128 to 256
#2813 [20:28] <CaptCody> so make sure to convert your world.
#2814 [20:29] <CaptCody> Thats your problem with the sizes.
#2815 [20:32] <ahdodod> how do you convert your world?
#2816 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> Run minecraft. It'll convert automatically
#2817 [20:32] <ahdodod> damn
#2818 [20:32] <ahdodod> :D
#2819 [20:32] <sugoi> :)
#2820 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> "@Marc_IRL Ah, neat. How often do people need customer service? I didn't even realize Mojang had such a thing." -- "@101Blasphemy101 We get about 400 emails a day"
#2821 [20:32] <ahdodod> i still see mcr files
#2822 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> It'll convert when you load the old world
#2823 [20:33] <ahdodod> if it doesn't crash :)
#2824 [20:33] <ahdodod> have you heard of mcedit?
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#2826 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> I use it all the time
#2827 [20:33] <ahdodod> i wonder if i can move over my old word to a newly generated one
#2828 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Not sure if it's been updated for the new world format yet
#2829 [20:33] <ahdodod> and see if 1.2.2 will convert it
#2830 [20:33] <ahdodod> is there a "quick copy"
#2831 [20:33] <ahdodod> ?
#2832 [20:34] <ahdodod> say, select all and then paste
#2833 [20:34] <ahdodod> yeah, that's a good idea
#2834 [20:34] <ahdodod> lol
#2835 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. There's a unstable 1.1 build for MCedit out. https://github.com/downloads/mcedit/mcedit/MCEdit-0.1.1.win32.zip
#2836 [20:35] <ahdodod> oh crap
#2837 [20:35] <ahdodod> perhaps i used 1.0 to edit my 1.1 file?
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#2839 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> The file format hasn't been changed since beta 1.8. Anything between there and 1.1 will use the same file format
#2840 [20:36] <ahdodod> ok. you scared me
#2841 [20:36] <ahdodod> lolll
#2842 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> 1.2.x, uses a new file format, which many map editors have not updated to yet
#2843 [20:37] <ahdodod> yeah. i think something barfed in my old world file
#2844 [20:37] <ahdodod> so i am thinking of creating one from scratch and copy over regions
#2845 [20:37] <ahdodod> see if 1.2.2 will convert it
#2846 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Just have a backup of your old world. Maybe there'll be a fix for the conversion issue in the near future
#2847 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't look like you're the only person with the issue.
#2848 [20:39] <ahdodod> yeah. you're probably right, i'll wait a couple days, see how it pans out
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#2851 [20:53] <Lance> Hey. I've bought the game today and I keep getting a "can't connect to minecraft.net" error when signing in. I've tried adding an exception to my firewall, updating java, redownloading the client and all the files, forwarded ports. Any ideas?
#2852 [20:53] <Lance> thanks
#2853 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> Lance - Has it ever worked before?
#2854 [20:55] <Lance> Not that I can remember. I was able to play way back when there were a few days it was free due to the site being down. I can play on the website but not on the client.
#2855 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Have you redownloaded the client since then?
#2856 [20:57] <Lance> I downloaded it today. Deleted all the files in .minecraft and opened the website version.
#2857 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Lance - Windows?
#2858 [20:58] <Lance> yep
#2859 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Lance - Does the client have a news feed above where you log in?
#2860 [20:58] <Lance> yep
#2861 [20:58] <CaptCody> i be sad
#2862 [20:58] <Eddie> Hello
#2863 [20:58] <Eddie> I am here for you
#2864 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Lance - Hmm. Could you tell me what you see when you go to: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#2865 [20:59] <CaptCody> I want people to join mah server :(
#2866 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> Will tell us whether or not your computer can communicate with the login server
#2867 [20:59] <Lance> SSL connection error
#2868 [20:59] <CaptCody> Mine just says
#2869 [20:59] <CaptCody> Bad Login
#2870 [20:59] <CaptCody> in a text
#2871 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> Bad login is the correct answer
#2872 [20:59] <CaptCody> Lol
#2873 [20:59] <CaptCody> I spammed voxelhead :)
#2874 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Lance - Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd
#2875 [21:00] <Lance> done
#2876 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> At the black command prompt, type in: ping login.minecraft.net
#2877 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Tell me the ip address that you get back from the ping
#2878 [21:00] <Lance> 127.0.0.1
#2879 [21:01] <CaptCody> ping is not recognized.
#2880 [21:01] <Lance> Thats odd
#2881 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> And that would be why your client cannot connect to minecraft.net
#2882 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> let's fix that.
#2883 [21:01] <CaptCody> i cant use ping.
#2884 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Lance - Go to your start menu, go to "All programs", then accessories. Do you see Notepad? Right click on it and Run as Admin
#2885 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Tell me when you have notepad open
#2886 [21:02] <Lance> yep
#2887 [21:02] <Lance> its open
#2888 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Go up to File -> Open
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#2890 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> In the file path, put in: %systemroot%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
#2891 [21:02] <firestorm21> hello?
#2892 [21:02] <firestorm21> hello?
#2893 [21:03] <Lance> yup done
#2894 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> When you have the file open, please look at the bottom of the file. Do you see a line for login.minecraft.net?
#2895 [21:03] <Lance> I do
#2896 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> Remove it.
#2897 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> Resave the file. Then try logging into the minecraft client again
#2898 [21:03] <Lance> You are the best GreyVulpine
#2899 [21:03] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#2899 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> firestorm21 - How can we help?
#2900 [21:04] <Lance> Thanks a million
#2901 [21:04] <firestorm21> whenever I try to start minecraft, the green bar for updating gets stuck on "downloading packages"
#2902 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> firestorm21 - Has minecraft worked before?
#2903 [21:04] <firestorm21> yes
#2904 [21:04] <firestorm21> its just with the new update
#2905 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> firestorm21 - Redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download -- Before logging in with the new client, go to the options button, and hit "Force Update"
#2906 [21:05] <firestorm21> i tried that
#2907 [21:05] <firestorm21> like 3 times
#2908 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> firestorm21 - Do you run any antivirus/security software?
#2909 [21:05] <firestorm21> norton
#2910 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Is that it?
#2911 [21:06] <firestorm21> yep
#2912 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Does it get stuck at the very beginning?
#2913 [21:06] <firestorm21> yes
#2914 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. What operating system are you on? Windows?
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#2916 [21:07] <firestorm21> windows
#2917 [21:07] <firestorm21> 7
#2918 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#2919 [21:07] <firestorm21> ok
#2920 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder. Go inside, delete everything but the saves folder. then try minecraft again?
#2921 [21:07] <firestorm21> done
#2922 [21:08] <firestorm21> all that is in there is bin and lastlogin'
#2923 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, alright. Could you right click on the minecraft launcher, and choose 'Run as admin', then log in?
#2924 [21:09] <firestorm21> ok
#2925 [21:09] <firestorm21> it worked
#2926 [21:09] <firestorm21> thank you sooo much
#2927 [21:09] * GreyVulpine nods
#2927 [21:09] <CaptCody> Grey
#2928 [21:10] <CaptCody> oh wait
#2929 [21:10] * firestorm21 flies away into the sunset
#2929 [21:10] <CaptCody> i was going to say you should be admin
#2930 [21:10] <CaptCody> but
#2931 [21:10] <CaptCody> tthen i saw the
#2932 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> I've been here for far too long to not be an op.
#2933 [21:10] <CaptCody> :(
#2934 [21:10] <CaptCody> Your very mature
#2935 [21:11] <CaptCody> Do you know where I can advertise my server over irc
#2936 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> #smp
#2937 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Also, these sites
#2938 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> ??> CaptCody smp/servers
#2939 [21:11] <VoxelHead> CaptCody: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2940 [21:11] <VoxelHead> CaptCody: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2941 [21:11] <CaptCody> VoxelHead
#2942 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead is a bot
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#2944 [21:12] <mingo> hello?
#2945 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Hello.
#2946 [21:12] <mingo> hi
#2947 [21:12] <CaptCody> What do you need today mingo.
#2948 [21:12] <mingo> is this the minecraft room?
#2949 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> This is #minecrafthelp
#2950 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> The general minecraft room is at #minecraft
#2951 [21:13] <mingo> ok thx
#2952 [21:13] <mingo> ok thx
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#2954 [21:14] <Dragunov> hey , is it possible in vanilla 1.2 to name a chest?
#2955 [21:14] <Dragunov> saw it on some videos on youtube the guy had chests with name on them
#2956 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Not sure, probably a mod
#2957 [21:14] <Dragunov> thanks
#2958 [21:14] <CaptCody> Dargon
#2959 [21:14] <CaptCody> It is
#2960 [21:14] <CaptCody> Dragunov
#2961 [21:14] <CaptCody> It us.
#2962 [21:14] <Dragunov> oh really:D
#2963 [21:14] <CaptCody> Right click on a chest with a sign.
#2964 [21:15] <Dragunov> which sign
#2965 [21:15] <CaptCody> What do you mean "which sign"
#2966 [21:15] <Dragunov> oh i need to make a sign first?
#2967 [21:15] <Dragunov> just joined game today:D learning it
#2968 [21:15] <CaptCody> Wait...
#2969 [21:15] <CaptCody> Oh
#2970 [21:15] <CaptCody> put a block in front of the chest
#2971 [21:15] <CaptCody> and go behind the chest
#2972 [21:15] <CaptCody> and aim at the block
#2973 [21:15] <CaptCody> put a sign.
#2974 [21:15] <CaptCody> and then you can name your chest.
#2975 [21:15] <CaptCody> and then you can name your chest.
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#2977 [21:16] <Dragunov> ok cool i will remember it
#2978 [21:17] <CaptCody> okay.
#2979 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> Not quite sure what you mean by that CaptCody. I can't seem to place a sign directly on a chest
#2980 [21:17] <CaptCody> Grey
#2981 [21:18] <CaptCody> You have to aim a certain way.
#2982 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> Unless that's a new feature for 1.2
#2983 [21:18] <Dragunov> Thanks it worked
#2984 [21:19] <CaptCody> You are welcome.
#2985 [21:19] <CaptCody> :)
#2986 [21:19] <CaptCody> Grey
#2987 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> Yeah?
#2988 [21:19] <CaptCody> Maybe I have a shot at OP too.
#2989 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> We shall see
#2990 [21:20] <CaptCody> :)
#2991 [21:20] <CaptCody> Time can only tell.
#2992 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Happen to have a screenshot of that chest+sign? I can put a sign on the blocks next to it, but not directly on the chest
#2993 [21:21] <CaptCody> No.
#2994 [21:21] <CaptCody> I dont
#2995 [21:21] <CaptCody> I have jsut done it before.
#2996 [21:21] <CaptCody> voxelhead is pissing me off.
#2997 [21:21] <CaptCody> and plus I think you have to use glass
#2998 [21:21] <clarjon1> well stop using the enter key as a punctuation mark.
#2999 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Glass isn't working either..
#3000 [21:22] <CaptCody> Clarjon1
#3001 [21:22] <clarjon1> See? You're doing it again.
#3002 [21:22] <CaptCody> Please do not correct me as I am in a state of being you will never comprehend :)
#3003 [21:22] <clarjon1> Oh, so you're high? :)
#3004 [21:22] * clarjon1 runs
#3004 [21:23] <DopeGhoti> Listen up, kids. This is what you're like when you're on drugs.
#3005 [21:23] <DopeGhoti> ⋯-=≡★ ♪ The More You Know… ♫
#3006 [21:23] <CaptCody> Yeah
#3007 [21:23] <CaptCody> Im high.
#3008 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, can't seem to get the sign on the chest. Got any tips?
#3009 [21:23] <CaptCody> Not really grey
#3010 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Does the chest need to be in an enclosed space?
#3011 [21:23] <CaptCody> I can try to walk you through it. But no promises.
#3012 [21:23] <CaptCody> Yes.
#3013 [21:23] <CaptCody> It does.
#3014 [21:23] <DopeGhoti> Some people never learn.
#3015 [21:24] <CaptCody> ?
#3016 [21:24] <CaptCody> never learn what.
#3017 [21:24] <clarjon1> You're gonna get banned if you don't learn how to put multiple thoughts on a single line, CaptCody.
#3018 [21:24] <DopeGhoti> ??> CaptCody do/,
#3019 [21:24] <VoxelHead> CaptCody: (do/,) The Enter key is not a comma. Please don't flood the channel with many many lines of just two or three words each. Learn how to use complete sentences, and commas.
#3020 [21:24] <CaptCody> do/,
#3021 [21:24] <CaptCody> captcody do
#3022 [21:24] <CaptCody> lol...
#3023 [21:24] <CaptCody> You just got told by a bot. Im ashamed.
#3024 [21:25] <CaptCody> ??> DopeGhoti do/,
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#3026 [21:30] <CaptCody> Im a troll
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#3028 [21:37] <Alex_Hupsch> Mojang on here?
#3029 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> No.
#3030 [21:37] <Alex_Hupsch> damn it
#3031 [21:37] <Alex_Hupsch> didn't fugre
#3032 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> This is community-run support. If you need to get in contact with Mojang, use help.mojang.com
#3033 [21:37] <Alex_Hupsch> figure, I mean
#3034 [21:38] <Alex_Hupsch> that's the thing
#3035 [21:38] <Alex_Hupsch> I have
#3036 [21:38] <Alex_Hupsch> I've emailed them twice and they haven't responded
#3037 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Might I ask, concerning what?
#3038 [21:38] <Alex_Hupsch> twice in the past week
#3039 [21:38] <Alex_Hupsch> my account isn't premium anymroe
#3040 [21:38] <Alex_Hupsch> and I'm trying to figure out why not
#3041 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Did you purchase an account from minecraft.net?
#3042 [21:38] <DopeGhoti> Where did you purchase your account from?
#3043 [21:38] <Alex_Hupsch> the minecraft website
#3044 [21:39] <Alex_Hupsch> ghoti? like fish?
#3045 [21:40] <Alex_Hupsch> I'm just really frustrated with my situation
#3046 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, Mojang received a notice of payment being reversed. The reasons for this include the bank getting a chargeback request from the customer, or the payment hitting an anti-fraud measure put into place
#3047 [21:40] <Alex_Hupsch> anti-fraud measure?
#3048 [21:40] <Wugg`Sohoth> :payment/stopped
#3049 [21:40] <WugBot> payment/stopped: Banks, credit card companies, etc. frequently stop minecraft purchases for your protection because they are international transactions. You may have to call your financial institution and ask that they approve the transfer.
#3050 [21:40] <WugBot> payment/stopped: If you're not sure what to say, tell them: "I would like to make an international purchase and payment is being declined. How would I go about approving the purchase?"
#3051 [21:40] <Wugg`Sohoth> happens a lot
#3052 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Usually happens when a international payment goes through... ^
#3053 [21:40] <CaptCody> Auntifraud measure basically means they are checking to see if your information is legitament.
#3054 [21:41] <CaptCody> And to see if you arent someone that is illegally using the form of payment.
#3055 [21:41] <CaptCody> Its basically a test.
#3056 [21:41] * GreyVulpine coughs
#3056 [21:41] <Wugg`Sohoth> in this case, its more that theyre making sure that its really you making the payment
#3057 [21:41] <Alex_Hupsch> thanks captcody, king of the obvious
#3058 [21:41] <Wugg`Sohoth> and not someone else who stole your info
#3059 [21:41] <CaptCody> Alex_Hupsch
#3060 [21:41] <CaptCody> You can shut up >.>
#3061 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> !k CaptCody
#3062 [21:41] * GreyBot kicked CaptCody from #minecrafthelp (Reason: aptCody :<Kicks:918>)
#3063 [21:41] <Alex_Hupsch> heh
#3064 [21:41] <Wugg`Sohoth> how about we be civil
#3065 [21:41] <Wugg`Sohoth> you included
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#3067 [21:42] <CaptCody> Umad xD
#3068 [21:42] <Wugg`Sohoth> CaptCody: cool it
#3069 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Easy there CaptCody. No need for that type of language here.
#3070 [21:42] * Wugg`Sohoth yawns
#3070 [21:42] <Alex_Hupsch> I get the idea though, guys
#3071 [21:42] <Alex_Hupsch> and I do thank you for your help
#3072 [21:43] <DopeGhoti> quite welcome, and good luck
#3073 [21:43] <Alex_Hupsch> why haven't they gotten back to me?
#3074 [21:43] <Alex_Hupsch> it's been over a week
#3075 [21:43] <Wugg`Sohoth> they get _a lot_ of emails
#3076 [21:43] <Alex_Hupsch> ugh
#3077 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> Apparently, they get 400 emails daily.
#3078 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> Small team, they only recently signed on a customer service manager.
#3079 [21:43] <Alex_Hupsch> dopeghoti, you didn't answer my question
#3080 [21:43] <Wugg`Sohoth> every time someone sends them more than one, it just adds to the workload without adding any work
#3081 [21:43] <DopeGhoti> You might be well-served by calling your bank to see whether they are holding the transaction in abeyance.
#3082 [21:43] <Wugg`Sohoth> so avoid duplicate emails if at all possible
#3083 [21:44] <Alex_Hupsch> ok
#3084 [21:44] <DopeGhoti> and yes, 'ghoti' is pronounced in the same manner as 'fish'
#3085 [21:44] <Alex_Hupsch> if only my bank wasn't closed for the day
#3086 [21:45] <Scott> Your bank doesn't provide 24/7 customer service?
#3087 [21:45] <Alex_Hupsch> I suppose I'll look into it
#3088 [21:46] <Alex_Hupsch> why wouldn't I have received notice of them holding the funds?
#3089 [21:46] <DopeGhoti> If you used a Visa card, call the number on the back of the card; the fraud divisions are usually 24/7
#3090 [21:46] <Alex_Hupsch> ok
#3091 [21:46] * DopeGhoti goes home.
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#3094 [22:26] <syn> minecraft keeps crashing when starting up :(
#3095 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Crashes how?
#3096 [22:27] <syn> i run it, starts to load then says, Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem.
#3097 [22:28] <syn> followed by some information
#3098 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Is that from an error report?
#3099 [22:28] <syn> yes
#3100 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Could you copy the entirety of that error report to pastebin.com and give us the URL?
#3101 [22:28] <syn> yes
#3102 [22:29] <syn> http://pastebin.com/WRhQQMgh
#3103 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Please follow VoxelHead's instructions
#3104 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> ??> syn win/reinst
#3105 [22:29] <VoxelHead> syn: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3106 [22:29] <VoxelHead> syn: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3107 [22:31] <syn> excellent, thanks!
#3108 [22:31] * GreyVulpine nods
#3108 [22:36] <blink> YO!
#3109 [22:36] <blink> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1068755-how-to-update/page__fromsearch__1
#3110 [22:36] <blink> Someone should help this person out
#3111 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> I don't do forums
#3112 [22:36] <|Kiikun|> . . .
#3113 [22:37] <|Kiikun|> stop server, replace server jar/exe with new server jar/exe, start server
#3114 [22:42] <blink> well he doesn't know that :\
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#3116 [22:52] * clarjon1 is away: "Some fairy tales begin with "Once upon a time..." Others begin with "If elected, I promise...""
#3116 [22:52] * |Kiikun| slaps clarjon1
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#3122 [23:10] <MC> hey all! Where is the best tutorial for setting up buildcraft?
#3123 [23:10] <MC> I am trying to do it, and end up having to reinstall minecraft...
#3124 [23:10] <MC> lol
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#3126 [23:18] <asdff> Hey
#3127 [23:18] <asdff> its me the guy with the updating drivers problem
#3128 [23:19] <asdff> i wanna play with a friend and my other computer is busy right now so i wanna get this fixed! :D
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#3130 [23:21] <asdff> fuck you guys
#3131 [23:21] * AuBot kicked asdff from #minecrafthelp (Reason: sdff :Please keep it civil.)
#3132 [23:27] <Eddie> If only people were more like that towards governments
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#3136 [23:33] <asddd> hey
#3137 [23:33] <asddd> help
#3138 [23:33] <asddd> NVIDIA GeForce 9100 (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM v1.1) 185.93
#3139 [23:34] <asddd> i need update driver but i cant find the download thing
#3140 [23:34] <asddd> i need update driver but i cant find the download thing
#3141 [23:34] <asddd> anyone there?
#3142 [23:34] <asddd> anyone there????
#3143 [23:36] <asddd> heeeeeeeeelp
#3144 [23:37] <asddd> heeeeeeeeelp
#3145 [23:39] <Jackson413> bonkbonkbonk
#3146 [23:39] <Jackson413> bonkbonkbonk
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