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#11 [00:39] <Indigomontoya_> So I am trying to connect a plugin from minecraft to my channel here, do I need to do anything special to get it to connect?
#12 [00:39] <Indigomontoya_> or just use the full url
#13 [00:41] <|Kiikun|> Indigomontoya_: i asume you mean some bukkit irc plugin?
#14 [00:41] <Indigomontoya_> yep
#15 [00:41] <|Kiikun|> ask in #bukkit
#16 [00:41] <Indigomontoya_> kk
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#20 [00:43] <cole36912> I got an error
#21 [00:43] <cole36912> == ERRORS FOUND == warning: [options] bootstrap class path not set in conjunction with -source 1.6 src\minecraft_server\net\minecraft\src\ConsoleCommandHandler.java:350: error: ca nnot find symbol dropPlayerItem(new ItemStack(3, 1, 0)); ^ symbol: method dropPlayerItem(ItemStack) location: class ConsoleCommandHandler 1 error 1 w
#22 [00:44] <cole36912> any help???
#23 [00:44] <cole36912> ;search dropPlayerItem
#24 [00:44] <WugBot> No matches for "dropPlayerItem".
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#26 [00:47] <cole36912> hey can you help me?
#27 [00:47] <lemon-rev> cole36912 have you updated java ?
#28 [00:48] <cole36912> yes
#29 [00:48] <lemon-rev> cole36912 did you get the latest minecraft version ?
#30 [00:48] <lemon-rev> cole36912 did you get the latest minecraft version ?
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#32 [00:49] <cole36912> yes but do you see whats wrong with my code?
#33 [00:49] <cole36912> this is an error from mcp
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#35 [00:50] <lemon-rev> so are you running a mod at all ?
#36 [00:50] <cole36912> no Im making one
#37 [00:51] <Jenny> can someone help me fixing a problem?
#38 [00:51] <cole36912> k
#39 [00:51] <Jenny> everytime i want to connect to a minecraft server i get the problem java.net.socketexception connection reset
#40 [00:52] <cole36912> did this just start?
#41 [00:52] <Jenny> yes
#42 [00:53] <Jenny> since yesterday
#43 [00:53] <Jenny> after the patch
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#45 [00:53] <Cole36912_> did you update?
#46 [00:53] <Jenny> yes yesterday
#47 [00:53] <Jenny> and since then it doesnt work
#48 [00:54] <Cole36912_> then the servers you are trying to connect to have not updated
#49 [00:54] <Jenny> is there a way to connect to them anyway?
#50 [00:54] <Cole36912_> going back to 1.1
#51 [00:54] <Jenny> how
#52 [00:54] <Cole36912_> hold on
#53 [00:55] <Cole36912_> use this http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-210-now-works-with-122/
#54 [00:56] <Jenny> i'll try it
#55 [00:56] <Jenny> thank you
#56 [00:56] <Cole36912_> no problem
#57 [01:01] <Viper> /clera
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#60 [01:12] <BliND> hello ppl, anyone understand how Essentials backup batch file works? trying to get mine working right, I tried following their guide but it was just putting one world over another in the folder, so I edited it a little from 'xcopy /e /c /h /i /v /r /y /q world Backup\%itdate%D\' to 'xcopy /e /c /h /i /v /r /y /q world Backup\%itdate%D\world'
#61 [01:12] <BliND> and now it's making a seperate folder
#62 [01:13] <Cole36912_> idk but cant you just copy your saves folder
#63 [01:13] <BliND> problem is it's giving me a few errors between each world, "Error: Files not found within the specific search criteria."
#64 [01:13] <BliND> yeah but I'm trying to set it up to be automatic
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#67 [01:23] <mib_w4u1bk> can i have plugins with the normal server?
#68 [01:23] <clarjon1> no
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#73 [01:51] <ahdodod> chunk it chunk it chunk it
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#76 [01:57] <RickRome> how can i play on 360?
#77 [01:58] <RickRome> it just downloads the promo vid
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#79 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft's not out on xbox yet, I thought
#80 [01:59] <RickRome> the video is titled something like "Guys, Its finally here!"
#81 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> Was still in development, not supposed to be out till later this year
#82 [01:59] <RickRome> under indie games section in the marketplace
#83 [01:59] <RickRome> oh alright
#84 [01:59] <RickRome> I really appreciate it, Grey
#85 [02:01] <sugoi> minecraftwiki -> "Minecraft is set to release on the Xbox 360 in Spring 2012.[12] It has been confirmed that Minecraft Xbox 360 will be out in the second quarter of 2012. "
#86 [02:01] <sugoi> but the citation ([12]) to gamespot is 404'd
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#89 [02:03] <Miskatatu> hello or moi
#90 [02:03] <sugoi> Miskatatu: sup
#91 [02:04] <Miskatatu> :O i am one and one Miskatatu!
#92 [02:04] <sugoi> ok, :)
#93 [02:04] <Miskatatu> :P
#94 [02:05] <Miskatatu> okey next somewho is cloning my player:(
#95 [02:05] <sugoi> Miskatatu: your server is running in offline (unprotected) mode?
#96 [02:05] <sugoi> Miskatatu: or they have your password?
#97 [02:06] <Miskatatu> i have to server how you know that??
#98 [02:07] <sugoi> Miskatatu: i am trying to understand your question/problem. someone is cloning your player? are you saying someone is using your account?
#99 [02:07] <Miskatatu> i dont know but you ny using my player name:D
#100 [02:07] <Miskatatu> :/
#101 [02:07] <sugoi> 'ny' ?
#102 [02:07] <Miskatatu> so funny:D
#103 [02:09] <Miskatatu> oh,I am from Finland and i dont know how i can say to England?:/
#104 [02:09] <sugoi> Miskatatu: what are you trying to say, "you ny using my player name"
#105 [02:09] <Miskatatu> :D
#106 [02:10] <sugoi> what does that mean?
#107 [02:10] <Miskatatu> i dont know too:D
#108 [02:11] <sugoi> Miskatatu: ok
#109 [02:11] <sugoi> Miskatatu: did you have a question about minecraft?
#110 [02:11] <Miskatatu> yea
#111 [02:11] <Miskatatu> i have 1
#112 [02:12] <Miskatatu> How i can play to my Singleplayer commands to my minecraft but is not play :/ what bug is it??
#113 [02:12] <Miskatatu> I cant play it
#114 [02:13] <Miskatatu> Are you understand?
#115 [02:13] <sugoi> Miskatatu: not 100% - 1. can you login?
#116 [02:13] <Cole36912_> did you install it right?
#117 [02:13] <sugoi> crap, baby awake, brb
#118 [02:14] <Miskatatu> I can go to my minecraft course I play my friend player:D
#119 [02:15] <Cole36912_> ok so you cant play you character
#120 [02:16] <Miskatatu> pum pu pum pum pum pu pum pum pum pu pum pum:D
#121 [02:16] <Miskatatu> yea
#122 [02:16] <Miskatatu> I can
#123 [02:16] <Miskatatu> §§1qa§
#124 [02:16] <Miskatatu> :)
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#126 [02:16] <Cole36912_> so whats the probblem then?
#127 [02:17] <Miskatatu> i cant play my singleplayer commands mod and i dont know why i cant:/
#128 [02:17] <Cole36912_> did you install modloader as well
#129 [02:17] <Miskatatu> i dont
#130 [02:18] <Miskatatu> :D
#131 [02:18] <Miskatatu> MIMWIWFNIW
#132 [02:18] <Miskatatu> efimiwk
#133 [02:18] <Miskatatu> fjiw
#134 [02:18] <Cole36912_> you should
#135 [02:19] <Miskatatu> yeah
#136 [02:20] <sugoi> Cole36912_: what?
#137 [02:20] <sugoi> why modloader
#138 [02:20] <sugoi> Cole36912_: rhetorical! ^
#139 [02:20] <sugoi> Miskatatu: what is your username?
#140 [02:21] <Miskatatu> Miskatatu is my Username
#141 [02:21] <sugoi> !paid Miskatatu
#142 [02:21] <Miskatatu> '?
#143 [02:21] <Miskatatu> what???????????????'
#144 [02:21] <sugoi> Miskatatu: you can reset your password: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#145 [02:22] <Cole36912_> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/75440-v11-risugamis-mods-everything-updated/
#146 [02:22] <sugoi> ;kick Cole36912_ don't advertise mods here
#147 [02:22] * WugBot kicked Cole36912_ from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ole36912_ :don't advertise mods here)
#148 [02:22] <sugoi> Miskatatu: don't listen to cole
#149 [02:22] <sugoi> Miskatatu: you can reset your password, go here: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
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#151 [02:23] <sugoi> ;quiet Cole36912_
#152 [02:23] <Miskatatu> !paid Miskatatu
#153 [02:23] <sugoi> Cole36912_: take it easy
#154 [02:23] <Miskatatu> ';D
#155 [02:23] <Miskatatu> !epaid Miskatatu
#156 [02:23] <Miskatatu> :D
#157 [02:24] <sugoi> Miskatatu: reset your password with the link i gave you -- then use your account
#158 [02:25] <Miskatatu> yea :kick admap Idling so much:D
#159 [02:25] <Miskatatu> ;kick Aikar
#160 [02:25] <Miskatatu> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
#161 [02:26] <Miskatatu> okey bye bye:(
#162 [02:26] <Miskatatu> :O
#163 [02:26] <Miskatatu> come my server
#164 [02:26] <Miskatatu> Server name is:TurkuCraft
#165 [02:26] <Miskatatu> and IP is : 5.57.227.139
#166 [02:27] <Miskatatu> there come to my server:)
#167 [02:27] <Miskatatu> thx
#168 [02:27] <Miskatatu> and byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
#169 [02:27] <sugoi> ;unquiet Cole36912_
#170 [02:28] <Miskatatu> :D
#171 [02:28] <Miskatatu> kjin
#172 [02:28] <Miskatatu> kjin
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#174 [02:28] <Miskatatu> how download to texturepack
#175 [02:28] <Miskatatu> ?
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#177 [02:29] <Miskatatu> coleee
#178 [02:29] <Miskatatu> coleee
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#181 [02:30] <sugoi> ;dequiet Cole36912_
#182 [02:30] <Cole36912_> thanks
#183 [02:30] <sugoi> sorry for the delay
#184 [02:31] <sugoi> look - i think you were right - but it also sounded like he was saying he couldn't log into his account, but he can on his friends
#185 [02:32] <sugoi> and i didn't want to advertise mod links here
#186 [02:35] <Cole36912_> ok
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#190 [03:19] <D4rknovaGazio> I keep getting internal server error when i join my server
#191 [03:19] <D4rknovaGazio> how do i fix it :\
#192 [03:19] <sugoi> D4rknovaGazio: i need more information
#193 [03:20] <sugoi> was it working before?
#194 [03:20] <D4rknovaGazio> Yeah :\
#195 [03:20] <sugoi> D4rknovaGazio: what changed?
#196 [03:20] <D4rknovaGazio> I was building in the sky
#197 [03:20] <D4rknovaGazio> then it suddenly
#198 [03:20] <D4rknovaGazio> did it :\
#199 [03:20] <sugoi> D4rknovaGazio: are you running 1.2.2?
#200 [03:20] <D4rknovaGazio> yeah
#201 [03:21] <sugoi> D4rknovaGazio: can you move your player data on the server out of the game folder (don't delete it, just move it out of the game folder)
#202 [03:21] <D4rknovaGazio> why
#203 [03:21] <D4rknovaGazio> what happens if i delete it?
#204 [03:22] <sugoi> D4rknovaGazio: e.g. mv minecraft-server-files/world/player bk/
#205 [03:22] <sugoi> D4rknovaGazio: those files hold things like current position, current inventory
#206 [03:22] <sugoi> current player exp points
#207 [03:22] <sugoi> i want you to take it out, and then try to login -- maybe the server doesn't like where you player is
#208 [03:26] <D4rknovaGazio> ok it worked :D
#209 [03:26] <sugoi> D4rknovaGazio: ok, if you don't want to lose your player data
#210 [03:27] <D4rknovaGazio> i deleted it xD
#211 [03:27] <sugoi> put that player folder back - and u....
#212 [03:27] <sugoi> D4rknovaGazio: well okay then :)
#213 [03:27] <sugoi> D4rknovaGazio: there have been a few bugs with 1.2 (1.2.1 and even 1.2.2)
#214 [03:27] <sugoi> D4rknovaGazio: i predict we'll see patches very soon
#215 [03:28] <sugoi> D4rknovaGazio: in the mean time, make backups regularly
#216 [03:28] <D4rknovaGazio> i'm using bukkit :P
#217 [03:28] <sugoi> D4rknovaGazio: ....so?
#218 [03:28] <sugoi> i use bukkit, and i make backups
#219 [03:28] <sugoi> i dont see your point
#220 [03:33] <D4rknovaGazio> i do use backups :P
#221 [03:34] <sugoi> ok, well good :)
#222 [03:34] <sugoi> using bukkit and making backups are two different topics
#223 [03:34] <sugoi> so i was confused what point you were trying to make
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#230 [04:07] <DiskDaemon> just ask my question? Righto, when I play vech's superhostile maps in 1.2 they crash all the time. I suspect the answer to that is to not do that, and wait until an updated map comes out
#231 [04:12] <GreyVulpine> As 1.2 just came out yesterday, any maps that require modded content need to be updated
#232 [04:12] <Pepper> Vechs aren't modded
#233 [04:13] <Pepper> It's all the conversion and lighting updates, I think
#234 [04:13] <Pepper> Happens to me too
#235 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> he does do some romhack-equivalent stuff in them though, and the shear number of mobs might play havoc due to the more extensive AI
#236 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> That may be it
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#238 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> It definately does involve though an ArrayOutOfBounds exception, of value -8
#239 [04:19] <Pepper> That's the exact number I was getting when I did my ID extender .-.
#240 [04:23] <DiskDaemon> Oh wow, a newer update is out now, 1.2.3
#241 [04:24] <Pepper> Another?
#242 [04:24] <Pepper> Damn
#243 [04:24] <DiskDaemon> yep, light bug and burning zombies
#244 [04:24] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
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#246 [04:42] <SinZ> DiskDaemon: why must they keep on putting herobrine back in, JUST to remove him.
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#250 [05:00] <DiskDaemon> Well it seems that the ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException occurs in the chunk class
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#257 [06:01] <FourFire> hello
#258 [06:01] <FourFire> I am aspiring to start a private Server (mostly just to test 1.2.3) and I was wondering if any of you could direct me to a thread on Server Modding
#259 [06:01] <sugoi> FourFire: once you mod, you longer have 1.2.3
#260 [06:01] <sugoi> :)
#261 [06:01] <FourFire> That is an ofcourse
#262 [06:02] <FourFire> but I will want to test mods afterwards
#263 [06:02] <sugoi> FourFire: well bukkit is great, use bukkit
#264 [06:02] * FourFire has never set up a server before)
#264 [06:02] <FourFire> uhh ok...
#265 [06:02] <FourFire> is there no vanilla method?
#266 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> As minecraft just updated, there are very very few mods that are compatible
#267 [06:02] <sugoi> FourFire: you can run minecraft server and client from the same machine (if it has enough ram)
#268 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> There is no vanilla support for plugins
#269 [06:03] <sugoi> FourFire: vanilla?
#270 [06:03] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: ah
#271 [06:03] <sugoi> FourFire: no
#272 [06:03] <FourFire> how much ram are we talking about here?
#273 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> Bukkit does not have a stable 1.2.3 build yet
#274 [06:03] <sugoi> over 9000
#275 [06:03] <FourFire> ok
#276 [06:03] <FourFire> kb,mb or gb?
#277 [06:03] * sugoi has been reading to many reddit memes
#277 [06:03] <FourFire> I doubt that is even a reddit meme
#278 [06:04] <FourFire> ok
#279 [06:04] <sugoi> FourFire: challenge accepted
#280 [06:04] <FourFire> > This should be interesting
#281 [06:04] <sugoi> http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/056/over9000.jpg
#282 [06:04] * sugoi wins
#282 [06:04] <FourFire> thats a demotivational
#283 [06:04] <sugoi> well it's not reddit's!
#284 [06:04] <sugoi> but i get links _from_ reddit
#285 [06:05] <sugoi> com'on
#286 [06:05] <FourFire> ah ok
#287 [06:05] * FourFire is about to attempt to run the client and server on a 2gb ram intel celeron laptop
#287 [06:05] <sugoi> so ram --- it depends on the user load, but 1GB each (game and server) is enough to test things
#288 [06:05] <sugoi> FourFire: ouch
#289 [06:05] <FourFire> If I dissapear suddenly you know why
#290 [06:05] <sugoi> celeron --- also, 2GB 'free', not total :)
#291 [06:06] <FourFire> 2gb total...
#292 [06:06] <FourFire> XD
#293 [06:06] <sugoi> XD indeed
#294 [06:06] * GreyVulpine gets the fire extinguisher ready
#294 [06:06] <sugoi> it'll do something, just not a lot
#295 [06:06] <sugoi> haha
#296 [06:06] <FourFire> I better close some of my 30+ tabs...
#297 [06:06] <sugoi> s/30+/9000+/
#298 [06:07] <FourFire> wait, how do I find my current IP as to jin my server?
#299 [06:07] <FourFire> can I set it?
#300 [06:07] <sugoi> FourFire: localhost
#301 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> 127.0.0.1
#302 [06:07] <FourFire> aha
#303 [06:07] <FourFire> hmm
#304 [06:07] <FourFire> I can just insert a ready generated map right?
#305 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#307 [06:07] <sugoi> FourFire: it'll build one for you
#308 [06:07] <FourFire> so I could make a BOD map in SP
#309 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> A.. what?
#310 [06:07] <FourFire> and have it instead of letting it make a fesh one
#311 [06:08] <FourFire> A B.O.D. map
#312 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea what that is
#313 [06:08] <sugoi> FourFire: if mc sees a world file, it won't overwrite it
#314 [06:08] <FourFire> > Marcopolo's Better Ore distribution
#315 [06:08] <FourFire> ok cool
#316 [06:08] <FourFire> BOD basically makes Few, giant veins instead of how ore is vanilla
#317 [06:09] <FourFire> "[WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?"
#318 [06:09] <FourFire> hmm...
#319 [06:09] <sugoi> FourFire: likely ram is working overtime :)
#320 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> to be expected when running with 2 gigs of total ram..
#321 [06:09] <FourFire> im at 90% ram
#322 [06:09] <sugoi> ha
#323 [06:09] <FourFire> 34% processor
#324 [06:09] <sugoi> FourFire: and client not started yet?
#325 [06:10] <FourFire> but sometimes I max out with the client if I put on far
#326 [06:10] <FourFire> yeah ill try to start the client
#327 [06:10] <FourFire> XD
#328 [06:10] <sugoi> it wont ...
#329 [06:10] <sugoi> java will get mad it can't have more memory
#330 [06:10] <FourFire> I might start using that disk
#331 [06:11] <FourFire> but it will be horribly slow
#332 [06:12] <FourFire> holy shit it WORKS
#333 [06:12] <FourFire> YEAH!
#334 [06:13] <FourFire> now to give my self 9001 levels and enchant ****
#335 [06:13] <sugoi> :)
#336 [06:13] <sugoi> haha
#337 [06:13] <sugoi> there you go
#338 [06:13] <FourFire> now if I went offline
#339 [06:13] <FourFire> can I still play my own server?
#340 [06:14] <FourFire> (PMI)
#341 [06:14] <FourFire> wait no...
#342 [06:14] <sugoi> yeah
#343 [06:14] <FourFire> because I have to log in
#344 [06:14] <sugoi> you can
#345 [06:14] <FourFire> oh I could?
#346 [06:14] <sugoi> edit server.properties, offline mode
#347 [06:14] <sugoi> doesn't auth usernames
#348 [06:14] <FourFire> neat
#349 [06:14] <FourFire> so LMS
#350 [06:14] <sugoi> lms?
#351 [06:14] <FourFire> can I NBTedit individual player files?
#352 [06:15] <sugoi> not familiar with that tool
#353 [06:15] <GreyVulpine> Only if NBTedit has been updated with the new world format
#354 [06:15] <FourFire> oh ok
#355 [06:15] <FourFire> *googles*
#356 [06:16] <Grim_Reaper> GreyVulpine I was able to use NBTedit with the new format o.o
#357 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> Oh really.
#358 [06:16] <FourFire> so uhh
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#360 [06:17] <FourFire> about potentially modding
#361 [06:17] <FourFire> because I want to have my own server to have BOD (which has a server branch)
#362 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> Only way to do that, is to yell at the mod's creator to update it for 1.2.3
#363 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> Every time minecraft updates, mods break.
#364 [06:17] <FourFire> what are the generic steps of vanilla modding for >modloader>ModloaderMP> Forge serverside mods?
#365 [06:18] <FourFire> I know but I mean, say I ran a 1.1 server
#366 [06:18] <FourFire> how would I go about modding it, what steps are there?
#367 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> Every mod has steps. Generally, for modloaderMP, you get minecraft_server.jar, open it up in a compression program of your choice, drag and drop files in
#368 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> If you're running a bukkit server, you'd download the plugin, drop it into the server's plugins folder.
#369 [06:19] * sugoi has 4hrs 40minutes until he has to be ready for the carpool
#369 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> If you're running something else, that's up to you to read the mod's installation steps
#370 [06:20] * sugoi needs a time machine for to sleep
#370 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, sleep's for the weak
#371 [06:20] <sugoi> FourFire: it's all about the documentation
#372 [06:21] <sugoi> read the friendly manual :)
#373 [06:24] <FourFire> yup
#374 [06:25] <FourFire> ok so generic is just drag+drop just like clientside?
#375 [06:25] <FourFire> + additional instrcutions from the mod in question ofc
#376 [06:25] <FourFire> what about the MetaINF
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#378 [06:26] <sugoi> o
#379 [06:26] <FourFire> ok how do I politely stop the server without just alt+F4 the program?
#380 [06:26] <TheNoodle> type stop in the console
#381 [06:26] <FourFire> oh ok
#382 [06:26] <TheNoodle> you can also type help :p
#383 [06:27] <auscompgeek> or ?
#384 [06:27] <FourFire> aha
#385 [06:29] <FourFire> hmm what is "View distance" ?
#386 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties
#387 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> The wiki is your friend.
#388 [06:30] <FourFire> thanks thats the link I wanted at the start
#389 [06:31] <FourFire> I suppose you just can't have a hardcore server
#390 [06:32] <FourFire> without plugins
#391 [06:33] <FourFire> cracked servers?
#392 [06:33] <FourFire> hmm
#393 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> No vanilla way of doing a 'hardcore' server.
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#395 [06:35] <FourFire> aha
#396 [06:35] <FourFire> I see
#397 [06:36] <FourFire> so basically Viewdistance is the limiter which determines how well worlddownoader works...
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#399 [06:38] <FourFire> lol
#400 [06:38] <FourFire> I have a beta 1.81 server
#401 [06:38] <Roms> Hi, where can i find beta server?
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#403 [06:39] <FourFire> I wonder is it impossible to get older versions without some form (or with) of Mcnostalgia
#404 [06:39] <FourFire> perhaps I should keep this copy of the 1.8.1 server
#405 [06:39] <FourFire> it could be valueable (in the data sense)
#406 [06:40] <Roms> FourFire, you know where i can find new betas?
#407 [06:40] <Roms> i already got 1.8.1 too :)
#408 [06:40] <FourFire> there is not beta over 1.8.1 ?
#409 [06:41] <FourFire> Im pretty sure because 1.9 was all prereleases
#410 [06:41] <FourFire> and then 1.0.0 was full game
#411 [06:41] <FourFire> so sorry nope I doubt such a thing exists
#412 [06:42] <Roms> any higher real then? 1.2.3?
#413 [06:42] <Roms> or something alike..
#414 [06:42] <FourFire> I just got my 1.2.3 server
#415 [06:42] <FourFire> tested it
#416 [06:43] <FourFire> it works on my laptop (big surprise)
#417 [06:43] <Roms> and where can i find that?
#418 [06:43] <FourFire> at the site
#419 [06:43] <FourFire> > Minecraft.net
#420 [06:43] <FourFire> >downloads
#421 [06:43] <FourFire> scrol down
#422 [06:44] <Roms> i only see https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe and Java version.., no more link
#423 [06:45] <Roms> is that 1.2.3?
#424 [06:45] <Roms> sorry to ask so dumb question
#425 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> Yes it is
#426 [06:47] <Roms> ok, thanks
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#437 [08:30] <Me4502> bye all
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#439 [08:50] <Svinet> Hi, why cant i set up a server for me and my friends? :( /whisp me when u have time.
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#441 [08:51] <Mingeraft> Helou.
#442 [08:52] <Mingeraft> I have witnessed paranormal activity with ocelots.
#443 [08:52] <Mingeraft> When I tamed an ocelot, it turned into a cat.
#444 [08:53] <Mingeraft> What should I do?
#445 [08:54] <Morrolan> Try feeding it some snow, maybe it'll transform into a golem then. *shrug*
#446 [08:54] <Mingeraft> Okay, I'll try that.
#447 [08:54] <Mingeraft> BTW can you eat cats?
#448 [08:55] <Morrolan> Don't you dare.
#449 [08:55] <Mingeraft> They look really delicious. I want to try.
#450 [08:55] <Mingeraft> Can I make some meals with the cat food alone or I need to find an Asian that will help me with that?
#451 [08:55] <Morrolan> It is known to corrupt your savegame though, mind you.
#452 [08:56] <Morrolan> It's like catching missingno, just worse.
#453 [08:56] <Mingeraft> I'll eat that.
#454 [08:56] <Mingeraft> I don't care.
#455 [08:56] <Mingeraft> Prepare for terror.
#456 [08:57] <Mingeraft> !paid Mingeraft
#457 [08:57] <Morrolan> It's your choice ofcourse.
#458 [08:57] <Morrolan> Did I mention that I've heard of two cases where eating a cat wiped a player's harddisk?
#459 [08:58] <Mingeraft> Nope, and I really don't give a damn.
#460 [08:58] <Mingeraft> I'll eat that cat with taste.
#461 [08:58] <Morrolan> Okay. Was nice talking to you. :'(
#462 [08:58] <Mingeraft> BTW, dogs are better.
#463 [08:58] <Mingeraft> Not for eating, but better at everything.
#464 [08:59] <Morrolan> Didn't try out cats so far, so can't tell.
#465 [09:04] <Mingeraft> I ate the cat.
#466 [09:04] <Mingeraft> I'm immortal.
#467 [09:06] <Mingeraft> Morrolan, please explain it to me why the sword block doesn't do a thing.
#468 [09:06] <Morrolan> It should reduce damage you get?
#469 [09:06] <Morrolan> damage you take*
#470 [09:07] <Morrolan> According to the wiki it'll block arrows.
#471 [09:07] <Morrolan> "blocked attacks deal only half the normal damage of said attack" okay, it's just damage reduction.
#472 [09:08] <Mingeraft> It doesn't reduce the damage.
#473 [09:08] <Morrolan> Then it's bugged I guess.
#474 [09:08] <Mingeraft> Spider deals same damage without block and with block.
#475 [09:08] <Mingeraft> Zombie too.
#476 [09:09] <Mingeraft> Also I thought that the sword block could bounce off the arrows.
#477 [09:09] <Mingeraft> That would be hella useful against skeletons when you don't have a distance wepon yet.
#478 [09:09] <Mingeraft> Notch needs to add dis.
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#480 [09:17] <Mingeraft> I can't find a hellish stronghold.
#481 [09:18] <Mingeraft> How do they exactly look like? Is there a hellish version of an Ender Pearl to help me locate a stronghold?
#482 [09:18] <Pepper> You mean Nether?
#483 [09:18] <Mingeraft> Yes, I require lots of blaze rods.
#484 [09:19] <Pepper> No, you just stumble across Nether fortresses
#485 [09:19] <Mingeraft> Also, the AI was really improved. One of the alerted pigmen just ran into a huge lava sea and died.
#486 [09:20] <Pepper> Pigmen don't die from lava
#487 [09:20] <Mingeraft> They do.
#488 [09:20] <Pepper> Zombie pigman*
#489 [09:20] <Pepper> They don't, check the wiki
#490 [09:20] <Mingeraft> Then why did it die?
#491 [09:20] <Pepper> Probably the 'virtual' falling caused by lava
#492 [09:21] <Mingeraft> You're probably right.
#493 [09:27] <Mingeraft> Do hellish strongholds carry valuables inside?
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#497 [09:57] <Mingeraft> How can I easily find a village?
#498 [09:58] <Morrolan> There are tools out there which give you coordinates based on your world seed.
#499 [09:59] <Morrolan> Apart from that there are plenty of them, you'll stumble across one pretty soon normally.
#500 [10:00] <Mingeraft> I've been wandering for like a hour now, and I still haven't seen a village.
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#502 [10:09] <Mingeraft> Throwing potions is not so good right now.
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#504 [10:09] <Mingeraft> I hope there will be charging implemented like in bows.
#505 [10:09] <heythere> hello
#506 [10:10] <heythere> was just wondering if theres a bug with iron golems spawning in villages right now or am i just dumb
#507 [10:10] <Mingeraft> What is happenong?
#508 [10:10] <heythere> because ive tried quite a few diffrent villages and none seem to be spawning
#509 [10:12] <Mingeraft> The village must have at least one house and 15 villagers, then iron golems will start spawning.
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#511 [10:13] <heythere> hm kinda hard to count, but i have around 10ish houses.. 1 sec ill wait till night then ill count the villagers
#512 [10:14] <Muffins> Anyone an expert at getting minecraft to run?
#513 [10:14] <heythere> whats the problem?
#514 [10:15] <Muffins> well, Whenever I attempt to run minecraft, I get a blue screen. I run windows 7, plenty plenty plenty of hard drive space, correct java version, reinstalled my drivers, and Ive already tried running it without my security program
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#517 [10:18] <Nknade> guys i need MC version 1.2.2 anyone have?
#518 [10:19] <heythere> 1 sec nknade
#519 [10:19] <Muffins> why do you need such a thing?
#520 [10:19] <Nknade> updated my mc but bukkit got v 1.2.2 only -.- i got 1.2.3
#521 [10:19] <jdawg_18> yo peepz. do i need to start a new world to get acces to the new jungle biomes and the kitties?
#522 [10:19] <Muffins> No
#523 [10:19] <Muffins> well, I dont think o
#524 [10:19] <Nknade> just search for new chunks
#525 [10:19] <Muffins> so*
#526 [10:20] <Muffins> just explore
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#528 [10:20] <Muffins> and, kitties? I wasnt aware those were added
#529 [10:20] <jdawg_18> ya kittes ocelots meow meow meow
#530 [10:20] <heythere> @nknade http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/tool-minecraft-downgrade-tool.13873/
#531 [10:20] <Muffins> oh, cool
#532 [10:21] <Nknade> THX didnt know theres such a tool
#533 [10:21] <Nknade> gonna test it now thanks
#534 [10:21] <Muffins> so, heythere, any idea on what could be wrong on my end?
#535 [10:22] <heythere> @muffins not sure. its a little beond me
#536 [10:22] <Nknade> The file is offline -.-
#537 [10:22] <heythere> ah ok hold on
#538 [10:22] <heythere> ill get you a better one
#539 [10:22] <Muffins> Understandable, I've been to this chat several times..
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#542 [10:24] <Muffins> oh well, I guess I'll just try again some other time.
#543 [10:24] <heythere> @nknade http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/106402-tool-cyborgs-tools-mcnostalgia-104/
#544 [10:24] <heythere> sorry i couldnt help muffins, perhaps google, if you haven't tried
#545 [10:25] <Nknade> theres no 1.2.2 version
#546 [10:25] <Nknade> or can you see any?
#547 [10:25] <Muffins> I suppose.
#548 [10:25] <Muffins> I just cant even fathom why a PC like mine cant run a game made of cubes
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#550 [10:26] <heythere> hmm, thats what i had always used.. again just google mincecraft downgrade something should come up
#551 [10:27] <heythere> @muffins, happend to me with a old star was game, was quite strange that my computer couldnt run it
#552 [10:27] <Nknade> i just need the 1.2.2 bin thats all
#553 [10:27] <Nknade> i already googeld for that
#554 [10:27] <heythere> well im running 1.2.3 as well so i cant help you there
#555 [10:28] <Nknade> damn bukkit^^
#556 [10:28] <Muffins> Is there even a 1.2.2?
#557 [10:28] <heythere> yeah
#558 [10:28] <Nknade> ya the 1.2.3 is a bug fix
#559 [10:28] <heythere> there was for most of yesterday
#560 [10:32] <Muffins> eh.
#561 [10:34] <Muffins> could cleaning my registry help in any way?
#562 [10:36] <Mingeraft> If you want a cat, you need to tame an ocelot. Ocelots are so weird they transform into harmless cats after being given fish.
#563 [10:36] <Mingeraft> So do not even dream about having a tamed ocelot, ever. That's just impossible, I tried that lots of times. Also cats won't defend you from anything.
#564 [10:37] <Mingeraft> That's why you should only have wolves, they're the best.
#565 [10:37] <Muffins> or puppies.
#566 [10:38] <Mingeraft> I'm sorry man but there are no puppies in Minecraft.
#567 [10:38] <heythere> yeah they were added in 1.2
#568 [10:38] <heythere> we have puppies now. :D
#569 [10:38] <Muffins> I dont *sadface*
#570 [10:38] <heythere> just breed ur wolves
#571 [10:39] <Mingeraft> There are no puppies here.
#572 [10:39] <Muffins> I actually havent played since before 1.0
#573 [10:39] <Mingeraft> Am I missing something, or tamed wolves can now breed?
#574 [10:39] <Muffins> they can
#575 [10:39] <Mingeraft> I'll check that right now. With INVEdit it won't be hard to get food and eggs required for the wolves.
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#577 [10:40] <Muffins> well, it says they can breed in the patch notes, so...yep.
#578 [10:42] <Mingeraft> You were right, they can breed. The wiki is just outdated, but the puppies look awkward.
#579 [10:42] <Mingeraft> The head looks too big, just like in other baby animals.
#580 [10:43] <Muffins> ok, Im going to try actually being able to run minecraft now...again.
#581 [10:43] <Muffins> *crosses fingers*
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#583 [10:47] <Muffins1> Didnt work
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#585 [10:50] <Mingeraft> I feel horrible while leaving my tamed wolves alone.
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#587 [10:52] <frogmella> How can you see who is the founder of #bukkit ?
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#589 [10:54] <frogmella> How can you see who is the founder of #bukkit ?
#590 [10:54] <frogmella> How can you see who is the founder of #bukkit ?
#591 [10:55] <frogmella> !paid fabianvandongen
#592 [10:55] <frogmella> !paid fabian99
#593 [10:57] <Mingeraft> !paid frogmella
#594 [10:57] <Morrolan> frogmella - "/cs info #bukkit" shows the one who initially registered the channel.
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#596 [10:57] <Mingeraft> Morrolan: Are 30 wolves enough for defence?
#597 [10:58] <Morrolan> That depends on what you want to defend yourself against.
#598 [10:58] <Mingeraft> Against everything.
#599 [10:58] <Magiobiwan> Never enough!
#600 [10:58] <Morrolan> I never use any animals as defense, they are a distraction at best. *shrug*
#601 [10:58] <Magiobiwan> !paid Magiobiwan
#602 [10:59] <Magiobiwan> I wonder what I would do if it said I had
#603 [10:59] <Magiobiwan> Because I haven't yet.
#604 [10:59] <Mingeraft> I think that Minecraft needs filth.
#605 [10:59] <Mingeraft> I'd like to throw filth at people.
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#607 [11:00] <Magiobiwan> Filth for ya
#608 [11:00] <Mingeraft> This is not a filth I was talking about.
#609 [11:01] <frogmella> how do i send a private message?
#610 [11:01] <Magiobiwan> It's /msg nick message
#611 [11:01] <frogmella> thnx
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#613 [11:02] <Magiobiwan> No problem.
#614 [11:02] <Magiobiwan> No problem.
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#617 [11:02] <Magiobiwan> Oops.
#618 [11:02] <Magiobiwan> Oops.
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#620 [11:06] <Mingeraft> I have no idea why these stone brick blocks with the holes in the middle of them are only available in Creative mode. They're exactly the same, but would give more variety for building with stone resources.
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#622 [11:07] <Guest12917> Hello,i need some help,so i updated to Windows 8,and i normally run minecraft on windows 7,always could run it,but now it does not work.
#623 [11:07] <Guest12917> Can i post the error log?
#624 [11:07] <TheNoodle> Then don't use a beta version of an os.
#625 [11:08] <Guest12917> Lol,why not?
#626 [11:08] <Mingeraft> Because beta is horrible.
#627 [11:08] <Mingeraft> And windows 8 is horrible.
#628 [11:08] <Guest12917> Actually it is not?
#629 [11:08] <Guest12917> Nope.
#630 [11:08] <Mingeraft> and you should feel horrible for using such a horrible os like windows 8
#631 [11:08] <Guest12917> I dont.
#632 [11:08] <Mingeraft> Come to the golden side of Windows XP
#633 [11:08] <Guest12917> Your just used to vista/windowss 7
#634 [11:09] <Mingeraft> Hah
#635 [11:09] <Guest12917> Windows XP is old.
#636 [11:09] <Mingeraft> It's a classic.
#637 [11:09] <Mingeraft> And it's clean.
#638 [11:09] <Guest12917> Classic sucks
#639 [11:09] <Guest12917> Get with our time
#640 [11:09] <Mingeraft> Why have you suddenly started talking about Classic?
#641 [11:10] <Guest12917> U said,Its a classic
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#643 [11:10] <Mingeraft> I won't keep arguing with you, so lets get it straight: If something does not work in a BETA of something, then live with a STABLE version.
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#646 [11:14] <Mingeraft> What file should I delete from ".minecraft" to reset the statistics?
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#648 [11:19] <Eras> Has anyone found a fix for the "Connection Lost, Internal exception: java.net.Socket.Exception: Connection Reset" problem that poped up with the 1.2 patch?
#649 [11:19] <Mingeraft> Eras.
#650 [11:19] <Eras> Yes?
#651 [11:19] <Mingeraft> You're most probably trying to connect to a server with the older version.
#652 [11:20] <Eras> Oh, so it was that afterall. Wasnt sure if it was that or something else due to others being online on the server.
#653 [11:21] <Mingeraft> I'm 100% sure that the only reason why you are getting that thing is because the server you are trying to connect to is running on 1.1 version.
#654 [11:21] <Mingeraft> Just wait for it to switch into 1.2 and everything will be okay, meanwhile play a little SP.
#655 [11:21] <Mingeraft> It's actually better than SMP, in my opinion.
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#657 [11:27] <Guest12917> Where can i download Minecraft 1.1?
#658 [11:27] <Mingeraft> You can't.
#659 [11:27] <Guest12917> I can
#660 [11:28] <clarjon1> not here
#661 [11:28] <clarjon1> You're on your own.
#662 [11:28] <clarjon1> Distributing previous versions is, by the agreements, illegal you know.
#663 [11:28] <Mingeraft> But you can return to the older version using that program called MCNostalgia: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-210-now-works-with-122/
#664 [11:28] <clarjon1> Mhm.
#665 [11:29] <Mingeraft> It has been there for a looong time so I don't think that's illegal.
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#667 [11:29] <clarjon1> That's a mod
#668 [11:29] <TheNoodle> MCNostalgia is fine.
#669 [11:29] <clarjon1> it modifies things to work with previous versions :)
#670 [11:29] <Mingeraft> It changes the versions.
#671 [11:30] <clarjon1> But it does not package an entire version, IIRC.
#672 [11:30] <Mingeraft> The only thing you've got to do is use that program and change into 1.1 and that's all.
#673 [11:30] <clarjon1> mhm
#674 [11:30] <Mingeraft> What the hell is IIRC
#675 [11:30] <clarjon1> If I Recall/Remember Correctly
#676 [11:31] <Mingeraft> Finally, I know what IIRC means.
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#679 [11:34] <Dragunov> does seeds include player-made content?
#680 [11:34] <Morrolan> No.
#681 [11:35] <Dragunov> thanks
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#683 [11:39] <evonava> I am running a server on beastnode. the problem I have is that every update throws my server off. I go to minecraft.net and DL the minecraft_server.net and upload that to the server. it never works. Im I DL the wrong file?
#684 [11:39] <clarjon1> um...
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#686 [11:39] <clarjon1> evonava: there is no minecraft_server.net file
#687 [11:40] <evonava> so, what, I up;oade the same minecraft file on the server as I use to play the game?
#688 [11:40] <clarjon1> what
#689 [11:40] <evonava> err .exe
#690 [11:40] <clarjon1> there is no file ending in .net
#691 [11:40] <clarjon1> oh
#692 [11:40] <clarjon1> is it a windows or linux server
#693 [11:40] <TheNoodle> Linux.
#694 [11:41] <evonava> Presume win.
#695 [11:41] <TheNoodle> You're looking for minecraft_server.jar evonava.
#696 [11:41] <clarjon1> yeah
#697 [11:41] <TheNoodle> evonava: http://pastebin.com/uV0SRrtS
#698 [11:41] <evonava> the .jar is listed as "other OS"
#699 [11:42] * TheNoodle nods
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#700 [11:42] <TheNoodle> Or read the pastebin I linked you.
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#702 [11:43] <evonava> ok. dl the .jar. UL it to server. restarting server . i would try and log on. and it would time out.
#703 [11:43] <evonava> brb
#704 [11:43] <clarjon1> woah
#705 [11:43] <clarjon1> woah
#706 [11:43] <clarjon1> you have to stop the server first!
#707 [11:43] <evonava> eh?
#708 [11:44] <TheNoodle> evonava, ffs.
#709 [11:44] <TheNoodle> Read the pastebin.
#710 [11:44] <clarjon1> You can't update the server while it's running
#711 [11:48] <evonava> stoped server. upload file. start server. let run 30 sec. stop server. wait 30 sec. restart server try n log iin. timed out.
#712 [11:48] <EyesIsMine> check the console
#713 [11:49] <evonava> http://mibpaste.com/2dEIQF
#714 [11:49] <TheNoodle> You failed.
#715 [11:49] <evonava> tom said i need a permissions file. tried one. not going well. so i dont knw if its the permission file or what.
#716 [11:49] <evonava> thank you troll. if i was 8 i could do this.
#717 [11:50] <TheNoodle> I'm not a troll.
#718 [11:50] <evonava> old fat farts like me trying to learn how to run this. beat on me later.
#719 [11:50] <TheNoodle> You've probably seen me in your hosting companies support channels.
#720 [11:50] <clarjon1> ....
#721 [11:50] <clarjon1> oh
#722 [11:50] <clarjon1> ffs
#723 [11:50] <clarjon1> you're not using minecraft vanilla, evonava, you're using craftbukkit. There isn't a supported release for craftbukkit for 1.2 yet
#724 [11:51] <TheNoodle> Now, your server is loading a craftbukkit jar, which means you didn't rename the file.
#725 [11:51] <evonava> like i said. i dont know if the problem is the permissions file or the .jar
#726 [11:51] <clarjon1> evonava
#727 [11:51] <clarjon1> you're trying to update craftbukkit by moving to a vanilla minecraft -_-
#728 [11:51] <evonava> craftbukkit-0.0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar is the file name.
#729 [11:51] <clarjon1> Also, your permissions plugin is broken.
#730 [11:51] <evonava> ok. lets back this up.
#731 [11:52] <clarjon1> and your LWC configuration is messed up too
#732 [11:52] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: hi
#733 [11:52] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: i'm at work now
#734 [11:52] <evonava> you said that the mc i neded was the .jar the only .jar file on the minecraft.net page is the one that listed as "other OS"
#735 [11:52] <sugoi> remember when i wasn't sleeping yet?! --- now very tired. just thought i'd share
#736 [11:52] <clarjon1> we were operating on the assumption that you were using vanilla minecraft
#737 [11:52] <clarjon1> craftbukkit is NOT vanilla.
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#739 [11:52] <TheNoodle> I wasn't :P
#740 [11:53] <ghostbolos2> i have debug when i see to the sky
#741 [11:53] <TheNoodle> I linked him to the instructions provided by his host for upgrading from craftbukkit to a vanilla 1.2.
#742 [11:53] <clarjon1> ah
#743 [11:53] <evonava> ok. so let me go back to the first question i had. where, o I get the minecraft file for my beastnode server?
#744 [11:53] <ghostbolos2> jest jakis polak ?
#745 [11:53] <sugoi> ghostbolos2: is this a riddle?
#746 [11:53] * clarjon1 facepalm
#746 [11:53] <TheNoodle> +TheNoodle : evonava: http://pastebin.com/uV0SRrtS
#747 [11:53] <clarjon1> TheNoodle: you can have 'im.
#748 [11:53] <TheNoodle> nooo
#749 [11:54] <ghostbolos2> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x52dd933c, pid=4976, tid=3628 # # JRE version: 6.0_30-b12 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.5-b03 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [atioglxx.dll+0xdc933c] # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
#750 [11:54] <clarjon1> ghostbolos2: your ati drivers are breaking.
#751 [11:54] <ghostbolos2> i have new drivers
#752 [11:55] <clarjon1> # Problematic frame: # C [atioglxx.dll+0xdc933c]
#753 [11:55] <Mingeraft> Lol!
#754 [11:55] <clarjon1> The error is occuring in your ATI drivers.
#755 [11:56] <ghostbolos2> ;/ what i must do ?
#756 [11:56] <Mingeraft> Update them.
#757 [11:56] <ghostbolos2> i update them
#758 [11:56] <evonava> see. old fat farts like me, woudl naturally presume that the updated server file woudl be on the minecraft.net site.
#759 [11:56] <clarjon1> evonava: the vanilla one yes
#760 [11:56] <clarjon1> evonava: but craftbukkit is a different project than minecraft vanilla.
#761 [11:57] <clarjon1> so... you'd have to go to the craftbukkit website :P
#762 [11:57] <ghostbolos2> I from poland and i understand english ;(
#763 [11:57] <clarjon1> But there isn't a 1.2 craftbukkit out yet.
#764 [11:57] <ghostbolos2> don't*
#765 [11:58] <sugoi> clarjon1: maybe ghost has in card plugged into /dev/null - ergo access violation :)
#766 [11:58] <evonava> so the mc-server.jar dont need to be updated jsut the bukkit?
#767 [11:59] <sugoi> ghostbolos2: your graphics card driver is unhappy - either it doesn't support minecraft or it needs to be updated/reinstalled
#768 [11:59] <clarjon1> evonava: yes. and you'll need to update your plugins as well.
#769 [11:59] <ghostbolos2> maybe any speak polish? :)
#770 [12:00] <sugoi> evonava: as clarjon1 is trying to explain. this is an 'either-or' scenario, you either use "craftbukkit and NOT minecraft server" or "NOT craftbukkit and minecraft serevr"
#771 [12:00] <ghostbolos2> I have newest drivers
#772 [12:00] <sugoi> ghostbolos2: was your game working before newest drivers?
#773 [12:00] <Mingeraft> He's from poland.
#774 [12:01] <Mingeraft> I am from poland too, I can translate your words for him.
#775 [12:01] <ghostbolos2> yupi :D
#776 [12:01] <Mingeraft> Should I do it here or in PMs?
#777 [12:01] <ghostbolos2> on chyba pyta czty dzialala wczesniej
#778 [12:01] <evonava> Ok clarj so. when they update mc. i dont have to fight with my server for weeks to get it running, jsut in time to do the next update. because the serverfile i dl fomr mc.net is vanilla and NOT the file i need. I NEED the craftbuk so the server will run with the noew updated MC that the players are using to log in with. ???
#779 [12:01] <Mingeraft> On się pytał czy gra działała dobrze przed najnowszymi sterownikami.
#780 [12:02] <ghostbolos2> yes my game working before newest drivers
#781 [12:02] <sugoi> evonava: i don't get the last part -- but, run craftbukkit 1.1 until 1.2 comes out, and tell your users to wait to update their client's
#782 [12:02] <sugoi> ghostbolos2: why did you update your driver?
#783 [12:02] <ghostbolos2> napisz mu ze nie dziala mi od update jak patrze sie w niebo to mnie wywala
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#785 [12:03] <evonava> yea. sorry. im old. i dont type well. im dyxlecic and im sleepy. its my midnight. I work 3rd shift.
#786 [12:03] <madalynn> tweh gwehj
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#788 [12:03] <madalynn> odorpdi0rtt
#789 [12:03] <Mingeraft> ghostbolos2 says that it doesn't work after updating the drivers. The game crashes when he looks at the sky.
#790 [12:03] <sugoi> madalynn: english
#791 [12:03] <madalynn> yruhej gehje eu eukehjhehkjeh hejjke
#792 [12:03] <madalynn> NE
#793 [12:03] <ghostbolos2> chyba cos przekreciles
#794 [12:03] <sugoi> Mingeraft: and why did he update his drivers? can he restore the old driver, or try to install the new _again_
#795 [12:04] <sugoi> madalynn: english
#796 [12:04] <ghostbolos2> o ile sie orientuje to pisze ze gra mi nie dzialala po updejcie sterow
#797 [12:04] <ghostbolos2> a chodzilo o gre
#798 [12:04] <Mingeraft> No powiedziałem.
#799 [12:04] <Mingeraft> Powiedziałem że gra ci nie działa po aktualizacji sterowników i że wywala cię z gry jak patrzysz w niebo.
#800 [12:04] <ghostbolos2> nie mam tam slowa gra :D
#801 [12:04] <madalynn> Russian oh ok
#802 [12:04] <Mingeraft> A no, i sugoi się pyta czemu zaaktualizowałeś sterowniki.
#803 [12:04] <ghostbolos2> ale ja sie slabo znam
#804 [12:05] <madalynn> uisojjs hsjksl jskls
#805 [12:05] <Mingeraft> Możesz stare sterowniki odzyskać?
#806 [12:05] <madalynn> lofdp
#807 [12:05] <sugoi> ;kick madalynn "Please speak english"
#808 [12:05] * WugBot kicked madalynn from #minecrafthelp (Reason: adalynn :"Please speak english")
#809 [12:05] <ghostbolos2> bo jak zalaczalem battlefield 3 to wyskakiwalo mi zebym zaktualizowal stery
#810 [12:05] <evonava> sugoi, clarjon1. thank you both.
#811 [12:05] <sugoi> evonava: hey, i didn't do anything
#812 [12:05] * sugoi gives points to clarjon1
#812 [12:05] <ghostbolos2> nie mam opcji odzyskanai starych
#813 [12:05] <Mingeraft> ghostbolos1 says that he updated his drivers because Battlefield 3 popped out with the request to update the drivers.
#814 [12:06] <Mingeraft> Also he says he has no option to restore old drivers.
#815 [12:06] <sugoi> ghostbolos2: does "Battlefield 3" work now? or is it broken too?
#816 [12:06] <ghostbolos2> bf3 work now
#817 [12:06] <sugoi> :(
#818 [12:06] <sugoi> ghostbolos2: remove the driver (uninstall)
#819 [12:06] <Mingeraft> ghostbolos2, sugoi też powiedział że możesz od nowa zainstalować te sterowniki.
#820 [12:06] <sugoi> and then install the driver again
#821 [12:07] <sugoi> ghostbolos2: and what version of java are you running?
#822 [12:07] <Mingeraft> To chyba rozumiesz, nie? :D
#823 [12:07] <ghostbolos2> jaka wersja javy mi dziala
#824 [12:07] <ghostbolos2> ?: D
#825 [12:07] <Mingeraft> Tak, jaką wersje Javy masz teraz.
#826 [12:08] <ghostbolos2> i don't know
#827 [12:08] <ghostbolos2> jak mam to zobaczyc ?
#828 [12:08] <Mingeraft> Wejdź w Panel Sterowania
#829 [12:08] <ghostbolos2> k
#830 [12:08] <Mingeraft> Potem Dodaj I Usuń Programy
#831 [12:08] <Mingeraft> A nie, nie nie.
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#833 [12:08] <Mingeraft> Wyjdź z tego Dodaj I Usuń Programy.
#834 [12:08] <Elfeno> hello
#835 [12:08] <Mingeraft> Tam będzie taka ikonka "Java"
#836 [12:08] <Mingeraft> Kliknij w nią.
#837 [12:08] <Elfeno> can you help me ?
#838 [12:08] <WugBot> Elfeno: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#839 [12:08] <sugoi> ghostbolos2: see your java version: http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
#840 [12:09] <sugoi> Elfeno: sup
#841 [12:09] <Mingeraft> sugoi
#842 [12:09] <ghostbolos2> version 6 update 30
#843 [12:09] <Mingeraft> I will guide him.
#844 [12:09] <Elfeno> I can't connect to my account
#845 [12:09] <sugoi> Elfeno: we have some polish speakers atm, ignore them, ask your questions
#846 [12:09] <sugoi> Elfeno: username?
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#848 [12:09] <ghostbolos2> (build 1.6.0_30-b12)
#849 [12:09] <sugoi> ghostbolos2: ok, taht is good
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#851 [12:09] <sugoi> that*
#852 [12:09] <Elfeno> i've reset my password 4 times and always say "bad password"
#853 [12:09] <Elfeno> Elfeno
#854 [12:09] <Mingeraft> Masz dziwnego problema.
#855 [12:09] <Elfeno> my username is Elfeno
#856 [12:09] <sugoi> !paid elfeno
#857 [12:10] <sugoi> Elfeno: but when you submit your password update, it is accepted?
#858 [12:10] <Mingeraft> Wystartuj aktualizacje Javy.
#859 [12:10] <Elfeno> yes
#860 [12:10] <Elfeno> 1 time no accept
#861 [12:10] <ghostbolos2> kk
#862 [12:10] <sugoi> Elfeno: you've migrated, i think you need to use your email as your username now
#863 [12:10] <Mingeraft> Jest nowa wersja, może ci tam pomoże. A jeśli nie, to usuń Jave i zainstaluj od nowa.
#864 [12:10] <Elfeno> ha i test that
#865 [12:11] <ghostbolos2> 30 sec
#866 [12:11] <Elfeno> don't work
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#868 [12:12] <Elfeno> the site say me when i try to connect : Oops, unknown username or password.
#869 [12:13] <Elfeno> and i talk with my friends he can connect
#870 [12:13] <Elfeno> her account
#871 [12:14] <sugoi> Elfeno: yeah . all i can say is if you've migrated, use your email address. if continues to give you trouble, contact mojang account support
#872 [12:14] <sugoi> Elfeno: here we don't have account access to help you further
#873 [12:15] <ghostbolos2> kurcze
#874 [12:15] <ghostbolos2> ;/
#875 [12:15] <ghostbolos2> po pewnym czasie mnie wywala
#876 [12:15] <Elfeno> migrated ?
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#879 [12:15] <Elfeno> how i can contact mojang account support ?
#880 [12:16] <sugoi> Elfeno: account migration: https://account.mojang.com/migrate
#881 [12:16] <mtdark> Is there a minecraft 1.2.3 assets? like the link http://assets.minecraft.net/1_2/minecraft.jar
#882 [12:16] <mtdark> only have it be 1.2.3? because my MC wont auto update, no matter what I do
#883 [12:17] <sugoi> mtdark: client or server?
#884 [12:17] <mtdark> client
#885 [12:17] <sugoi> mtdark: did you ask you if you want to update?
#886 [12:17] <Elfeno> the account migration don't accept my migration =(
#887 [12:17] <mtdark> I had same issue yesterday, and they gave me that link, http://assets.minecraft.net/1_2/minecraft.jar, and here they updated again today, and I cannot auto update :/
#888 [12:17] <Elfeno> thank you for your help
#889 [12:18] <Elfeno> just , how i can contact mojang account support ?
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#891 [12:18] <sugoi> ?? reinst
#892 [12:18] <sugoi> zug
#893 [12:18] * sugoi sucks at the ?? text
#893 [12:18] <sugoi> mtdark: can you select 'force update' ?
#894 [12:18] <sugoi> Elfeno: looking for that
#895 [12:19] <Keeshi> Can anyone see if they can connect to my server? just to see if I got it right. ip: 74.195.172.35:46345
#896 [12:19] <mtdark> sugoi, I did that, I redeleted my files, I tried everything I could think of, it always just freezes mid download after about 4-10% of downloading
#897 [12:19] <mtdark> I can leave it there for forever and it would never chang
#898 [12:21] <Mingeraft> Wywala cię?
#899 [12:21] <Mingeraft> Ale gra działa?
#900 [12:21] <ghostbolos2> znaczy wchodze w gre
#901 [12:21] <ghostbolos2> gram popatrze sie w niebo gram gram gram
#902 [12:21] <ghostbolos2> i po jakiejs minucie mnie wywala
#903 [12:21] <w> that's a lot of w's
#904 [12:22] <Mingeraft> sugoi, he says that after a few minutes, minecraft crashes.
#905 [12:22] <sugoi> ;check 74.195.172.35:46345
#906 [12:22] <WugBot> 74.195.172.35:46345 seems to host a minecraft server: A Minecraft Server (0/20)
#907 [12:22] <sugoi> Mingeraft: he just reinstalled the drivers?
#908 [12:22] <sugoi> w: haha
#909 [12:22] <sugoi> Keeshi: ^^
#910 [12:23] <sugoi> Keeshi: the wugbot check
#911 [12:23] <Keeshi> sugoi; that means its running and can connect right?
#912 [12:23] <Mingeraft> ghostbolos, zainstalowałeś sterowniki od nowa?
#913 [12:23] <Keeshi> ah!
#914 [12:23] <Keeshi> Thank you
#915 [12:23] <sugoi> Keeshi: aye
#916 [12:23] <Keeshi> so much
#917 [12:23] <ghostbolos2> nie
#918 [12:23] <Mingeraft> To zrób to.
#919 [12:23] <ghostbolos2> jak odinstalowac?
#920 [12:23] <Keeshi> ;chekck 74.195.172.35:46345
#921 [12:23] <Mingeraft> Nie wiem. :d
#922 [12:23] <Keeshi> ;chek 74.195.172.35:46345
#923 [12:23] <Keeshi> omg >.<
#924 [12:23] <Keeshi> ;check 74.195.172.35:46345
#925 [12:23] <WugBot> 74.195.172.35:46345 seems to host a minecraft server: A Minecraft Server (1/20)
#926 [12:24] <Keeshi> awesome, thanky everyone :D
#927 [12:24] <Elfeno> please ,i search, and i don't find the mojang account support
#928 [12:27] <mtdark> ok guys its OBVIOUSLY not me, I tried 3 different computers just now, none will update correctly on MC, they just freeze and stop updating!
#929 [12:28] <ghostbolos2> i install old drivers and game working
#930 [12:29] <ghostbolos2> thx for help :)
#931 [12:29] <mtdark> OH, i see the problem, it is trying to download at 1kb a second
#932 [12:29] <mtdark> what the FUCK is that about!!!!!!!!!
#933 [12:29] * AuBot kicked mtdark from #minecrafthelp (Reason: tdark :Please keep it civil.)
#934 [12:29] <Mingeraft> ghost
#935 [12:30] <Mingeraft> Po co mówiłeś że nie możesz starych sterowników odzyskać?
#936 [12:30] <ghostbolos2> pobralem stare
#937 [12:30] <ghostbolos2> :0
#938 [12:30] <Mingeraft> sugoi: ghostbolos2 has solved the problem, he has installed old drivers and now the game is working fine for him.
#939 [12:30] <ghostbolos2> :)
#940 [12:31] <sugoi> ghostbolos2: but bf3 is broken again? :(
#941 [12:31] <sugoi> Elfeno: i'm still working on finding that info
#942 [12:31] <sugoi> Elfeno: boy they make it hard! :)
#943 [12:31] <Elfeno> ok thanks
#944 [12:32] <sugoi> Mingeraft: big thanks :)
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#946 [12:33] <sugoi> Elfeno: ok, try this: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#947 [12:33] <sugoi> Elfeno: that's the best we can do with -- mojang doesn't give us special account access
#948 [12:33] <Elfeno> works !! thanks
#949 [12:33] <Mingeraft> ghost
#950 [12:33] <Mingeraft> Ale BF3 ci działa?
#951 [12:33] <sugoi> Mingeraft: he left
#952 [12:33] <Elfeno> i go to report that
#953 [12:33] <Mingeraft> Ah, he left.
#954 [12:34] <sugoi> Mingeraft: by the way, big thanks in tranlsating for us
#955 [12:34] <Mingeraft> No problem, man.
#956 [12:36] <sugoi> Mingeraft: Czy polski podobny do niemieckiego?
#957 [12:37] <sugoi> Mingeraft: clearly that is slavic :)
#958 [12:38] <sugoi> but being that germany is nearby, do they share any words?
#959 [12:38] <Dragunov> Where to find friends to play minecraft together
#960 [12:39] <sugoi> Dragunov: internet cafes
#961 [12:42] <Mingeraft> Nope sugoi.
#962 [12:42] <Mingeraft> Polish is in NO way similar to German.
#963 [12:42] <sugoi> Mingeraft: i didn't mean similar
#964 [12:42] <sugoi> i was just wondering if they share any words
#965 [12:43] <Morrolan> "Taxi" most likely. :P
#966 [12:43] <sugoi> like. ..
#967 [12:43] <sugoi> Morrolan: :)
#968 [12:43] <Mingeraft> Every language shares at least one word from every country.
#969 [12:43] <sugoi> :)
#970 [12:43] <Mingeraft> But honestly, I don't care. :P
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#973 [12:58] <Daphonic> can an admin change spawn point? Some reason our server changed spawn point, and its not near our base anymore
#974 [12:58] <Mingeraft> Wrong channel
#975 [12:59] <Daphonic> ?
#976 [13:02] <Morrolan> There are bukkit plugins which allow to change the spawnpoint, Daphonic.
#977 [13:02] <Morrolan> Apart from that someone with access to the serverfiles can use MCEdit, NBTedit or similar to change the spawn point.
#978 [13:05] <Daphonic> ok, so once our Start Base is done, i can set that as the spawn point?
#979 [13:06] <sugoi> Daphonic: affirmative, just not with vanilla server without tools support
#980 [13:06] <sugoi> Daphonic: i use multiverse-core w/ bukkit, op command: `/mv set spawn`
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#983 [13:10] <FourFire> hey
#984 [13:10] <FourFire> back again
#985 [13:10] <Viper> hay is for horses
#986 [13:10] <sugoi> oh look, we have a baddass here
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#988 [13:11] <sugoi> :)
#989 [13:11] <clarjon1> <img src="memes/badass.png" />
#990 [13:12] * sugoi is doing it right; memes
#990 [13:12] <FourFire> so if I have my latop running through the same ruter as this compute
#991 [13:12] <FourFire> how do I locate the IP for the server?
#992 [13:12] <sugoi> FourFire: then you are in the same 'subnet'
#993 [13:12] <clarjon1> FourFire: you go to the server, and get the ip from it
#994 [13:13] <sugoi> FourFire: on the server, query the ip
#995 [13:13] <Viper> just go to your router page
#996 [13:13] <clarjon1> if it's windows
#997 [13:13] <FourFire> ok
#998 [13:13] <FourFire> ty
#999 [13:13] <Viper> or to the router machine, and view network info
#1000 [13:13] <Viper> *server machine
#1001 [13:13] <clarjon1> FourFire: http://kb.iu.edu/data/aapa.html
#1002 [13:13] <FourFire> thanks
#1003 [13:13] <FourFire> thanks
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#1005 [13:13] * sugoi has a router that refuses to update its connected devices and traffic consistently and dependably
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#1006 [13:23] <FourFire> how may I view the logs from this channel?
#1007 [13:23] <FourFire> (I derped)
#1008 [13:24] <clarjon1> is there a log channel for this room?
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#1010 [13:24] <clarjon1> er
#1011 [13:24] <clarjon1> does this channel log, rather
#1012 [13:24] <clarjon1> I know the main minecraft room does.
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#1014 [13:25] <PuerScyph> http://wallpaperskhf.blogspot.com/ Please visit my Blog
#1015 [13:25] <PuerScyph> http://wallpaperskhf.blogspot.com/ Please visit my Blog
#1016 [13:25] <PuerScyph> http://wallpaperskhf.blogspot.com/ Please visit my Blog
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#1018 [13:26] <FourFire> ok maybe not'
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#1020 [13:26] <sugoi> FourFire: what are you looking form?
#1021 [13:26] <sugoi> for*
#1022 [13:26] <FourFire> well if you don't mind could you please repeat what you told me before?
#1023 [13:26] <clarjon1> <clarjon1> FourFire: http://kb.iu.edu/data/aapa.html
#1024 [13:26] <clarjon1> this link can show you what your server's ip is
#1025 [13:26] <clarjon1> so you can connect to it on the LAN
#1026 [13:26] <clarjon1> :)
#1027 [13:27] <FourFire> yeah but the other instructions?
#1028 [13:28] <clarjon1> That's all i was here for.
#1029 [13:28] <clarjon1> i joined just before you were all "Hey Back again"
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#1031 [13:29] <FourFire> oh ok
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#1033 [13:36] <FourFire> is there any case where the server IP is not identical to the computer IP when I havn't done anything special
#1034 [13:36] <sugoi> FourFire: nope
#1035 [13:36] <sugoi> assuming you're in the same nat
#1036 [13:36] <sugoi> FourFire: windows server? firewall?
#1037 [13:37] <FourFire> IDK lol
#1038 [13:37] <sugoi> FourFire: what os is running on the machine with your server atm?
#1039 [13:38] <FourFire> Im actually trying to play MC in browser
#1040 [13:38] <sugoi> how did we go from talking about a local server to playing in a browser?
#1041 [13:38] <FourFire> on the server connected wirelessly (my laptop)
#1042 [13:38] <FourFire> I have both computers connected to the same wireless router (not mine)
#1043 [13:39] <FourFire> (but I am alowed to use it ofc)
#1044 [13:39] <sugoi> yes
#1045 [13:39] <sugoi> but that has nothing to do with playing mc in browser
#1046 [13:39] <FourFire> I want to connect to a server which theorectically is on the same network
#1047 [13:40] <FourFire> oh yeah win / both machnes
#1048 [13:40] <FourFire> windows 7
#1049 [13:40] <sugoi> k'oh
#1050 [13:40] <sugoi> wow
#1051 [13:40] <sugoi> i don't know what i'm talking about
#1052 [13:41] <sugoi> browser does have multiplayter
#1053 [13:41] <FourFire> yeahup
#1054 [13:41] <sugoi> i never even tried it until now
#1055 [13:41] <sugoi> :)
#1056 [13:41] <sugoi> haha
#1057 [13:41] <FourFire> anyone care to help?
#1058 [13:41] <sugoi> FourFire: i wonder if the browser isn't running locally ....
#1059 [13:41] <sugoi> FourFire: and so it doesnt see the IP's in your nat
#1060 [13:41] <FourFire> well it is via MC.net
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#1062 [13:42] <FourFire> im just wondering what to type in as my server IP
#1063 [13:42] <FourFire> so I may connect and do... stuffs
#1064 [13:42] <sugoi> FourFire: im saying, maybe local server connection doesn't work in browser
#1065 [13:42] <clarjon1> sugoi: it does
#1066 [13:42] <sugoi> FourFire: as the game's IP isn't local
#1067 [13:42] <sugoi> clarjon1: ok
#1068 [13:42] <sugoi> FourFire: scratch that
#1069 [13:43] <clarjon1> the game runs from the same files :P
#1070 [13:43] <sugoi> then why even use a browser?
#1071 [13:43] <FourFire> yeah it's 1.2.3 both sides
#1072 [13:43] <FourFire> because diffrent computer
#1073 [13:43] <FourFire> (one which though I may use I may not install things on)
#1074 [13:44] <FourFire> see this is highly experimental (i've never done any messing around with servers myself before)
#1075 [13:45] <sugoi> clarjon1: i don't see the value in running from browser if it runs the same files - why even have the option?
#1076 [13:45] <clarjon1> sugoi: some people are on computers that won't let them run downloaded programs. eg: schools
#1077 [13:46] <clarjon1> the launcher exe would just fail
#1078 [13:46] <sugoi> oh, haha
#1079 [13:46] <sugoi> fail
#1080 [13:46] <clarjon1> besides, it started out as a browser only game
#1081 [13:46] <FourFire> oh I could physically install the game on here, I would just rather not
#1082 [13:46] <sugoi> FourFire: TIL, if you already installed it by running it in the browser
#1083 [13:47] <sugoi> s/if//
#1084 [13:47] <FourFire> I did?
#1085 [13:47] <sugoi> FourFire: TIL, you* already installed it by running it in the browser
#1086 [13:47] <FourFire> oh well
#1087 [13:47] <FourFire> huh
#1088 [13:47] <FourFire> where?
#1089 [13:48] <sugoi> FourFire: when you first started the game in the browser, the browser should have asked you if you give java permission to install/add files to your computer
#1090 [13:48] <sugoi> FourFire: %appdata/.minecraft/
#1091 [13:48] <FourFire> ah but I didn't
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#1093 [13:48] <FourFire> I used "run this time"
#1094 [13:48] <FourFire> instead of "install"
#1095 [13:48] <sugoi> FourFire: .... it still put those files in
#1096 [13:48] <FourFire> I think ?
#1097 [13:49] <FourFire> oh well AM tech illiterate
#1098 [13:49] <FourFire> I*
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#1101 [14:01] <reac> any1 here?
#1102 [14:01] * Morrolan looks around
#1102 [14:01] <Morrolan> Sorry, afraid none is.
#1103 [14:01] <reac> kk
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#1105 [14:02] <sugoi> Morrolan: voxel should say that :)
#1106 [14:02] <Morrolan> He should slap everyone who asks something like this.
#1107 [14:02] <sugoi> haha, OR that
#1108 [14:02] <reac> ?
#1109 [14:03] * Grim_Reaper hugs Morrolan
#1109 [14:03] * Viper hugs Grim_Reaper
#1109 [14:03] <Grim_Reaper> You're stalking me Viper..
#1110 [14:03] <Viper> I'm neer?
#1111 [14:03] <sugoi> heh
#1112 [14:03] <Viper> I'm always in here?
#1113 [14:03] <reac> anybody knows a workaround a java exception problem, when I go to a specific place it says connection reset...
#1114 [14:03] <Grim_Reaper> I know that
#1115 [14:03] <Grim_Reaper> But you're stalking me
#1116 [14:03] <Viper> I'm your friend?
#1117 [14:04] <Grim_Reaper> Stalker ;-;
#1118 [14:04] <Viper> I'm not stalking you
#1119 [14:04] * Grim_Reaper hugs Viper
#1119 [14:04] <Viper> Grim_Reaper: Y U NO ACCEPT FREIND REQUEST?
#1120 [14:04] <Grim_Reaper> ?
#1121 [14:04] <sugoi> reac: do you get an error report?
#1122 [14:04] <Viper> on facebook
#1123 [14:04] <reac> nop sry
#1124 [14:04] <Grim_Reaper> I haven't got any requests
#1125 [14:04] <Viper> ._.
#1126 [14:04] <sugoi> reac: when does minecraft crash?
#1127 [14:05] <Viper> I still have one open with you
#1128 [14:05] <reac> when I get to my town
#1129 [14:05] <reac> and all my friends are in there, but theyre ok
#1130 [14:05] <sugoi> reac: really...
#1131 [14:05] <sugoi> reac: and you can play everywhere else no problem?
#1132 [14:05] <reac> yes
#1133 [14:05] <sugoi> reac: mods?
#1134 [14:06] <reac> bc
#1135 [14:06] <reac> industrial
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#1137 [14:06] <reac> redpower forestry
#1138 [14:06] <kero-jarun> please help me
#1139 [14:06] <WugBot> kero-jarun: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1140 [14:06] <reac> additional pipes
#1141 [14:06] <reac> and railcraft
#1142 [14:07] <sugoi> reac: let's just test -- remove all mods, client and server, see if problem persists
#1143 [14:07] <kero-jarun> I no longer have a premium acc
#1144 [14:07] <sugoi> kero-jarun: uh oh
#1145 [14:07] <reac> ok ill comeback in a few, thanks for ur help
#1146 [14:07] <sugoi> kero-jarun: what was your username?
#1147 [14:07] <kero-jarun> _ProfessorX_
#1148 [14:07] <kero-jarun> ._ProfessorX_
#1149 [14:07] <sugoi> reac: run vanilla server too
#1150 [14:07] <sugoi> !paid _ProfessorX_
#1151 [14:08] <kero-jarun> omg
#1152 [14:08] <sugoi> kero-jarun: looks like you bought a bogus account
#1153 [14:08] <sugoi> kero-jarun: only buy from minecraft.net
#1154 [14:08] <Wugg`Sohoth> :scam
#1155 [14:08] <WugBot> scam: Do not buy minecraft from anywhere except http://minecraft.net There is a high probability that the gift code you purchase will later be disabled.
#1156 [14:08] <WugBot> scam: This scam is possible because it is possible to perform a chargeback on the payment made for the gift code. This results in the money being transferred back into the buyers account and Mojang disabling the gift code.
#1157 [14:08] <Grim_Reaper> ?? scam
#1158 [14:08] <VoxelHead> scam: If you bought from or were given a gift code that was bought from anywhere but minecraft.net it's a scam. Mojang does not give out discounts for purchasing gift codes so there's absolutely no profit to be made.
#1159 [14:08] <VoxelHead> scam: DO NOT purchase minecraft from any site other than minecraft.net, under any circumstances, period.
#1160 [14:08] <Wugg`Sohoth> ninjad
#1161 [14:08] <Grim_Reaper> Lol wug >_>
#1162 [14:09] <kero-jarun> ://
#1163 [14:09] <Grim_Reaper> Also wug why the new nick
#1164 [14:09] <Grim_Reaper> Sorry kero-jarun =\
#1165 [14:09] <sugoi> kero-jarun: who is the culprit?
#1166 [14:09] <kero-jarun> Oh my God
#1167 [14:09] <sugoi> you bought mc from God?
#1168 [14:09] <sugoi> man...you'd think...
#1169 [14:10] <sugoi> that'll shake your faith
#1170 [14:10] <kero-jarun> my cousin, I gave him to buy me
#1171 [14:10] <kero-jarun> ://
#1172 [14:10] <sugoi> you, ' gave him to buy me' ?
#1173 [14:10] <sugoi> you sold your cousin for minecraft?
#1174 [14:10] <Grim_Reaper> I think he means..
#1175 [14:10] <sugoi> dude, it's not that expensive
#1176 [14:11] <Grim_Reaper> He gave his cousin the link to buy it
#1177 [14:11] <kero-jarun> xD no
#1178 [14:11] * sugoi is a lot funnier IRL
#1178 [14:11] <kero-jarun> Sss
#1179 [14:11] <sugoi> kero-jarun: well call him up and stop him if it's not too late
#1180 [14:12] <sugoi> kero-jarun: but use http://minecraft.net/
#1181 [14:12] <kero-jarun> Now I have to buy again?
#1182 [14:12] <sugoi> kero-jarun: technically...you never bought "minecraft"
#1183 [14:12] <sugoi> so, unfortunately, yes, you would have to buy it
#1184 [14:13] <kero-jarun> ://
#1185 [14:15] <kero-jarun> initially worked my Accaunt
#1186 [14:16] <kero-jarun> I could change the skin
#1187 [14:16] <sugoi> kero-jarun: that's usually how the scammers work
#1188 [14:16] <sugoi> it'll work for a bit, then stop working
#1189 [14:18] <kero-jarun> -.-
#1190 [14:19] <sugoi> kero-jarun: i'm sorry, man
#1191 [14:19] <sugoi> wish i could do more for you
#1192 [14:19] <sugoi> we should find these people, and throw eggs at their house
#1193 [14:19] <kero-jarun> thank you
#1194 [14:19] <Grim_Reaper> [21:19] <+sugoi> we should find these people, and throw eggs at their house
#1195 [14:20] <Grim_Reaper> I would prefer to torture them
#1196 [14:20] <sugoi> we can do both
#1197 [14:20] <Grim_Reaper> Works for me
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#1199 [14:43] <Chips> any admins here? have a problem to login with my Brend new account.
#1200 [14:45] <Wugg`Sohoth> what's the account name
#1201 [14:45] <Chips> Dahlgreen
#1202 [14:45] <Chips> have reset my password 4 times.
#1203 [14:46] <Wugg`Sohoth> ;hp Dahlgreen
#1204 [14:46] <WugBot> Dahlgreen has NOT paid for minecraft.
#1205 [14:46] <Wugg`Sohoth> are you just not getting the email address?
#1206 [14:46] <Wugg`Sohoth> email response*
#1207 [14:46] <Chips> Thank you for registering as Dahlgreen at minecraft.net!
#1208 [14:47] <Chips> cant login and buy the game thats all.
#1209 [14:48] <Wugg`Sohoth> you shouldnt need to reset your password if you just registered, don't you have the password you registered with?
#1210 [14:48] <Chips> hmmm come in now (:
#1211 [14:48] <Wugg`Sohoth> did you make a typo in it :/
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#1213 [14:55] <Burrito_Mussolini> just wondering what are the steps needed for a refund/re-purchase of the game?
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#1215 [14:58] <Wugg`Sohoth> Burrito_Mussolini: mojang does not offer refunds
#1216 [15:00] <Burrito_Mussolini> i'm just wondering b/c my payment did not went through in terms of with mojang but it did with my bank
#1217 [15:01] <Burrito_Mussolini> so i "paid" for the game but the game does not recognize it
#1218 [15:01] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: the bank is likely showing it as paid when really it is just 'reserved funds'
#1219 [15:01] <sugoi> and mojang hasn't yet collected it
#1220 [15:02] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: what type of payment method did you use?
#1221 [15:02] <Wugg`Sohoth> yeah, its probably this. Try again tomorrow and see if its gone through. If it still hasnt, call them and ask about it
#1222 [15:02] <Burrito_Mussolini> how do i tell if it is reserved fund?
#1223 [15:03] <Burrito_Mussolini> my expense category said "professional services & membership organization"
#1224 [15:03] <Burrito_Mussolini> my bank statement has said it is validated for the past few days
#1225 [15:04] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: it's common practice for banks to show funds unavailable online, when the money is still in the account..or with the bank
#1226 [15:04] <Burrito_Mussolini> and last time i'm here using the !paid command, it showed i didn't pay
#1227 [15:04] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: have you tried contacting the bank, to see if any hold is on the money?
#1228 [15:04] <Burrito_Mussolini> nope, figure it is already processed
#1229 [15:04] <Burrito_Mussolini> didn't say anyhting regarding a "hold" on the purchase
#1230 [15:05] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: you called
#1231 [15:05] <sugoi> ?
#1232 [15:05] <Burrito_Mussolini> nope
#1233 [15:05] <sugoi> because online typically does not distinguish holds from processsed
#1234 [15:05] * sugoi wonders why no one ever trusts him on this
#1234 [15:05] <sugoi> in my last job i wrote software the processed funds for banks
#1235 [15:06] <Wugg`Sohoth> sugoi: SO THIS IS YOUR FAULT
#1236 [15:06] <sugoi> that*
#1237 [15:06] <sugoi> haha
#1238 [15:06] <Burrito_Mussolini> haha, i trust what he said is correct based on his knowledge, it is just that i have never heard of this before
#1239 [15:06] <Wugg`Sohoth> lol
#1240 [15:06] * sugoi sighs
#1240 [15:06] <Wugg`Sohoth> Burrito_Mussolini: most people come to us because they have issues they have never seen
#1241 [15:06] <Burrito_Mussolini> yeah
#1242 [15:06] <Wugg`Sohoth> we have all seen them a lot ;)
#1243 [15:06] <Burrito_Mussolini> but i never received any email after purchase
#1244 [15:06] <Burrito_Mussolini> which is also weird
#1245 [15:07] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: well no ... that email should come after mojang takes the money
#1246 [15:07] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: i'd call your bank, and clear a hold
#1247 [15:07] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: if there was and is no hold...then i'd contact mojang support
#1248 [15:07] <Burrito_Mussolini> i have no email, but then again, my purchase browser timed out
#1249 [15:07] <Burrito_Mussolini> can i have the number for mojang support?
#1250 [15:07] <Wugg`Sohoth> that usually indicates an error
#1251 [15:07] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: interesting, but the funds are not available in your account, so SOMETHING was processed
#1252 [15:07] <Wugg`Sohoth> mojang doesnt have telephone support
#1253 [15:08] <Wugg`Sohoth> you can contact them by email with this form: http://is.gd/G3zPKi
#1254 [15:08] <Burrito_Mussolini> figured... but i have heard some people haven't gotten any reply for months
#1255 [15:08] <Burrito_Mussolini> i already send them an email haha
#1256 [15:08] <Wugg`Sohoth> they get ... a lot of emails
#1257 [15:08] <Burrito_Mussolini> yeah so i have heard
#1258 [15:08] <Wugg`Sohoth> if you've sent one, dont send another, just wait until you get a response
#1259 [15:09] <Burrito_Mussolini> what is the estimated time for a reply (on average)
#1260 [15:09] <Wugg`Sohoth> if you dont for a while, try sending another with a different return email address
#1261 [15:09] <Wugg`Sohoth> its usually several days
#1262 [15:09] <sugoi> they get ~400 emails daily
#1263 [15:10] <Burrito_Mussolini> how long is several? cuz i already waited several days
#1264 [15:10] <Burrito_Mussolini> just an average estimate
#1265 [15:10] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: but you haven't confirmed your bank isn't holding the money
#1266 [15:10] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: we typically say wait up to 3
#1267 [15:13] <sugoi> curious, was it a prepaid card? did you use a credit card?
#1268 [15:14] <sugoi> what country is your bank from?
#1269 [15:15] <sugoi> Wugg`Sohoth: just in case your fun sarcasm was actually light curiosity: i worked on the protocol that handles fund tranfer requests - not the online banking UI for some bank :)
#1270 [15:15] <sugoi> transfers*, too
#1271 [15:15] <sugoi> -s...whatever
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#1276 [15:25] <KingIrwin> Hello, I received the error "Credit/debit card deposits disabled" while purchasing Minecraft, and it also said to wait 24 hours but I haven't yet. I have used two or three different cards now and none of them have worked and gave me pretty much the same response. Will waiting 24 hours really do the trick or is there another problem occuring
#1277 [15:26] <KingIrwin> I used a Visa Gift card first
#1278 [15:26] <sugoi> gift card fail
#1279 [15:26] <oldtopman> KingIrwin: Since Mojang is in europe, you're probably activating anti-fraud programs.
#1280 [15:26] <KingIrwin> That was recently registered, and when that failed I tried a regular visa
#1281 [15:26] <sugoi> KingIrwin: call your bank, release the funds over the phone
#1282 [15:26] <oldtopman> This happens *every* *time*
#1283 [15:27] <sugoi> KingIrwin: on the phone, "yeah, see that charge to a company in europe, it's okay, let it go through, thanks"
#1284 [15:27] <KingIrwin> Dang really?
#1285 [15:27] * sugoi quotes james bond, "It's okay, let it happen"
#1285 [15:27] <sugoi> KingIrwin: aye
#1286 [15:28] <KingIrwin> Okay thank you so much!
#1287 [15:28] <Burrito_Mussolini> i used my bank debit card, in california US
#1288 [15:29] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: that's good -- still worth calling the bank
#1289 [15:29] <Burrito_Mussolini> btw calling my bank right now and should be find out soon, so hopefully it is on hold so less trouble
#1290 [15:29] <sugoi> coo
#1291 [15:31] <Burrito_Mussolini> i have called my bank and they said Mojang has accepted it
#1292 [15:31] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: o_O
#1293 [15:31] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: what was your accoutn name again?
#1294 [15:32] <Burrito_Mussolini> it was transferred on the 26th and pretty much was accepted on the same day
#1295 [15:32] <sugoi> s/tn/nt/
#1296 [15:32] <Burrito_Mussolini> posted on my bank online on the 27th
#1297 [15:32] <Burrito_Mussolini> haha438 is my acc #
#1298 [15:32] <sugoi> ;hp haha438
#1299 [15:32] <WugBot> haha438 has NOT paid for minecraft.
#1300 [15:32] <sugoi> rude!
#1301 [15:32] <Burrito_Mussolini> ......
#1302 [15:32] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: and you didn't get a confirmation email?
#1303 [15:32] <Burrito_Mussolini> nope
#1304 [15:32] <sugoi> ;hp WugBot
#1305 [15:32] <WugBot> WugBot has paid for minecraft.
#1306 [15:32] <sugoi> k'oh!
#1307 [15:32] <Grim_Reaper> What
#1308 [15:32] <Grim_Reaper> That is lies!
#1309 [15:32] <Burrito_Mussolini> maybe it is b/c my browser timed out, but the purchase was still processed
#1310 [15:32] <Grim_Reaper> Pure lies!
#1311 [15:32] <sugoi> haha
#1312 [15:33] <Burrito_Mussolini> lol
#1313 [15:33] <Grim_Reaper> a bot doesn't play mc
#1314 [15:33] <Burrito_Mussolini> i wish i was lying, that way i can just purchase it right now
#1315 [15:33] <Burrito_Mussolini> oh lol
#1316 [15:33] <Burrito_Mussolini> they r minecraft
#1317 [15:33] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: perhaps, ok, email support again and tell them what your bank told you
#1318 [15:33] <Burrito_Mussolini> they don't play it
#1319 [15:33] <Burrito_Mussolini> ok hopefully they will have a reply faster
#1320 [15:33] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: grim was talking about wugbot
#1321 [15:33] <Burrito_Mussolini> btw r you guys working in the PR department?
#1322 [15:33] <Burrito_Mussolini> yeah i found that out after he said it
#1323 [15:33] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: we're not official
#1324 [15:34] <Grim_Reaper> We are just a free support community
#1325 [15:34] <sugoi> self volunteers
#1326 [15:34] <Grim_Reaper> We aren't staff of Mojang at all
#1327 [15:34] <Burrito_Mussolini> oh ok
#1328 [15:34] <sugoi> i actually work for autodesk (software dev)
#1329 [15:34] * sugoi cheers for inventor
#1329 [15:34] <Burrito_Mussolini> cuz i thought if u guys r PR personals, then maybe I can tell them that you guys assisted me but still have this problem
#1330 [15:34] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: hey, you can still mention us :)
#1331 [15:34] <Burrito_Mussolini> but i guess not
#1332 [15:34] <Burrito_Mussolini> thanks for the tips though
#1333 [15:35] <Burrito_Mussolini> sure
#1334 [15:35] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: say, "man, those guys in #minecrafthelp ROCK, esp. sugoi"
#1335 [15:35] <Burrito_Mussolini> haha of course
#1336 [15:35] <sugoi> " but not so much Grim_Reaper, what a douche"
#1337 [15:35] <Grim_Reaper> P_p
#1338 [15:35] <Burrito_Mussolini> so has there been any of this type of problem before?
#1339 [15:35] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: yes ...
#1340 [15:35] <Grim_Reaper> Yes there has Burrito_Mussolini
#1341 [15:35] <sugoi> in varied forms
#1342 [15:35] <Burrito_Mussolini> does this count as account problem or payment problem?
#1343 [15:35] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: payment
#1344 [15:36] <Burrito_Mussolini> wow that sucks, but then again if their problem is resolved, then i'll be in luck cuz it will be faster
#1345 [15:36] <Burrito_Mussolini> thanks
#1346 [15:36] <sugoi> np :)
#1347 [15:36] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#1348 [15:37] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini:
#1349 [15:37] <sugoi> you said you used a 'real visa' ?
#1350 [15:37] <sugoi> give mojang the last 4 of that card in your ticket
#1351 [15:37] <sugoi> billing name and address, too
#1352 [15:38] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: worst case scenario (and wait a good number of days first, to be polite)
#1353 [15:39] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: tell your bank to reverse the transfer, they'll usually let you do this a few times a year -- they'll open an investigation and will typiaclly pay you back (cost to bank) while they litigate against the seller
#1354 [15:39] <sugoi> this looks bad on mojang -- but it is one option.
#1355 [15:40] <Burrito_Mussolini> yeah but i don't want to hurt either party
#1356 [15:40] <Burrito_Mussolini> but at the same time i do want to get what i pay for
#1357 [15:41] <sugoi> it's not a big hurt...just an image thing
#1358 [15:41] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: the process to request payment should be LAST in the chain of web actions
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#1360 [15:42] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: so...if this error is because of your browser timeout
#1361 [15:42] <sugoi> then mojang has a poorly designed payment processor
#1362 [15:42] <KingIrwin> I called my bank and then the card company
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#1364 [15:42] <KingIrwin> And they said they didnt see anything in the last 4 days
#1365 [15:43] <sugoi> therefore, bank litigation could actually intice mojang to improve this process
#1366 [15:43] <sugoi> KingIrwin: did you say you used a prepaid card?
#1367 [15:43] * sugoi is lazy and doesn't want to scroll up
#1367 [15:43] <Burrito_Mussolini> probably because of the timed out, but i assumed that the time out period is long enough so that the purchase can be made successfully, but i guess i was wrong
#1368 [15:44] <KingIrwin> The first card I attempted to use was a prepaid card, but after that did not work I switched to a regular visa, so I called regarding that card
#1369 [15:44] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: what i'm saying is..from a developer point of view, the transfer request should not have happened if anything else in the puzzle was incomplete
#1370 [15:44] <sugoi> KingIrwin: so no funds ahve been taken?
#1371 [15:44] <KingIrwin> Nope
#1372 [15:45] <KingIrwin> I mean yes no funds have been taken xD
#1373 [15:45] <sugoi> KingIrwin: and the purchase fails on mojang's site when using your visa?
#1374 [15:45] <Burrito_Mussolini> yep, but i hope they would improve upon it, the website itself is still in a pretty early stage
#1375 [15:45] <KingIrwin> Yep I receive the error Credit/debit card deposits disabled
#1376 [15:46] <sugoi> KingIrwin: i don't know why mojang would say that, unless they have fraud detection that thinks your card is being misused
#1377 [15:47] <sugoi> KingIrwin: can you wait a day or use another card?
#1378 [15:47] <KingIrwin> Yeah
#1379 [15:47] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: agreed, that part of their site should be air tight
#1380 [15:47] <Burrito_Mussolini> yep, and hopefully a more organized FAQ as well
#1381 [15:47] <sugoi> paypal is also an option, btw
#1382 [15:47] <sugoi> i recommend paypal, actually
#1383 [15:48] <KingIrwin> So should I wait until next monday and use a third different card?
#1384 [15:48] <KingIrwin> Okay
#1385 [15:48] <sugoi> KingIrwin: you can setup paypal
#1386 [15:48] <KingIrwin> I have paypal also
#1387 [15:48] <sugoi> oh, good!
#1388 [15:48] <sugoi> i've not heard one issue with paypal purchases
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#1390 [15:50] <Burrito_Mussolini> .....should have purchased through paypal then lol
#1391 [15:54] <sugoi> Burrito_Mussolini: yep
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#1393 [16:09] <Daphonic> hey guys, So im trying to install texture pack, but they are always greyed out from this site. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/127377-16x-32x-64x-128x-256x12-lb-photo-realism-12-update-322012/
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#1395 [16:09] <Daphonic> any thoughts? or is it user error?
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#1397 [16:11] <sugoi> greyed out within minecraft texture selector/
#1398 [16:11] <sugoi> ?
#1399 [16:11] <sugoi> odd, that's not something i know how to resolve
#1400 [16:11] <Daphonic> yea
#1401 [16:12] <Daphonic> im thinking its not compatiable with 1.2.2?
#1402 [16:12] <sugoi> ....unlikely
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#1404 [16:12] <Mingeraft> Hello.
#1405 [16:13] <Mingeraft> I'm Mingeraft and I am going to violate you with an iron spear.
#1406 [16:13] <sugoi> eep
#1407 [16:14] <Mingeraft> But at first, please let me eat this watermelon.
#1408 [16:14] * Mingeraft eats the entire watermelon in just one bite.
#1408 [16:14] <sugoi> nom nom
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#1410 [16:17] <Mingeraft> And now, who's first for the violation?
#1411 [16:17] * Mingeraft prepares his iron spear.
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#1413 [16:17] <asdff> hey greyvulpine u thre?
#1414 [16:18] <asdff> anyone heh?
#1415 [16:18] <asdff> seriously
#1416 [16:19] * sugoi tries to quiet his breathing
#1416 [16:19] * Mingeraft violates sugoi with the iron spear.
#1416 [16:20] <sugoi> dang it!
#1417 [16:20] * sugoi slaps Mingeraft
#1417 [16:20] <sugoi> keep your iron spears to yourself, bro
#1418 [16:20] <Mingeraft> Too sharp?
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#1420 [16:21] <Calinou> Daphonic: usually texture packs take a while to be updated
#1421 [16:21] <Calinou> even though updates are not required, they will add the new, updated textures of the pack
#1422 [16:21] <Calinou> out-of-date packs may result in some purple blocks/invisible items
#1423 [16:21] <Calinou> also, HD texture packs require a third-party patcher
#1424 [16:22] <asdff> hey surgoi
#1425 [16:22] <Mingeraft> sugoi, the only thing that pisses me off in most of the games is that, a person sees another person all bloody, without an arm, open chest, guts all over the place, and the only thing the person does is "<enter name here> are you okay?!"
#1426 [16:22] <asdff> remember that driver update thing
#1427 [16:23] <asdff> ..lolwut
#1428 [16:23] <asdff> surgoi wow u ignoring me bra?
#1429 [16:23] <asdff> though u liked to help people
#1430 [16:23] <Mingeraft> Only those that actually tell them what's the problem.
#1431 [16:24] <asdff> minecraft gives me driver problm
#1432 [16:24] <Mingeraft> What driver exactly?
#1433 [16:25] <asdff> geforce 9100m G, NVIDIA Graphics
#1434 [16:25] <sugoi> asdff: :) i went pee
#1435 [16:25] * sugoi doesn't take laptop to urinal
#1435 [16:25] <Mingeraft> asdff
#1436 [16:25] <Mingeraft> That's a graphics card.
#1437 [16:25] <Mingeraft> Not a driver.
#1438 [16:25] <asdff> lol
#1439 [16:25] <asdff> well k hold on
#1440 [16:26] <sugoi> asdff: can you pastebin the error?
#1441 [16:26] <Mingeraft> Sugoi, let me repeat what I said:
#1442 [16:26] <Mingeraft> sugoi, the only thing that pisses me off in most of the games is that, a person sees another person all bloody, without an arm, open chest, guts all over the place, and the only thing the person does is "<enter name here> are you okay?!"
#1443 [16:26] <sugoi> Mingeraft: i saw it
#1444 [16:26] <sugoi> ...
#1445 [16:26] <Mingeraft> Duh.
#1446 [16:26] <Mingeraft> Okay then, you didn't tell me.
#1447 [16:26] <sugoi> i didn't have a response
#1448 [16:27] <sugoi> i'd just search the dude for money/weapons/good shoes
#1449 [16:27] <asdff> ill give you th error message and you tel me what to do please?
#1450 [16:27] <sugoi> !
#1451 [16:27] <asdff> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#1452 [16:27] <sugoi> i wonder if there is a dnd irc channel where people quest together
#1453 [16:27] <Mingeraft> Have you seen that video on YouTube where a rabbit is sexing a cat?
#1454 [16:27] <sugoi> asdff: nvidia - > do you have an nvidia control panel?
#1455 [16:28] <asdff> i don't know
#1456 [16:28] <sugoi> Mingeraft: don't want to - let's be civil/chill here
#1457 [16:28] <Mingeraft> But that was a really popular video on YouTube. The black cat was making the rabbit angry so he stopped messing around.
#1458 [16:28] <Mingeraft> Then the cat went like "WTF just happened" and walked away, dizzy.
#1459 [16:28] <asdff> i am pretty sure i had a power management thing but can't find it
#1460 [16:29] <asdff> but anyways if i do how do i check? i mean how do i check if i do lol
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#1462 [16:30] <asdff> surgoi i need your nerd powers here
#1463 [16:30] <asdff> your so cool too, :D
#1464 [16:31] <sugoi> asdff: look in program files for 'nvidia corporation'
#1465 [16:31] <asdff> SECOND : 0
#1466 [16:31] <sugoi> i found one in both "Program Files" and "Program Files(x86)"
#1467 [16:31] <Mingeraft> I have no idea how do you check that out so I am pretty sure you need to wait for someone that knows how to check that out. But because barely anyone knows how to check that out, you need to check that out by yourself because you should check that out and not force someone else to check that out to tell you to check that out.
#1468 [16:31] <asdff> k now what
#1469 [16:32] <sugoi> Mingeraft: tone it down ... you're not making any sense
#1470 [16:32] <Mingeraft> sugoi: Just like his requests for help. :D
#1471 [16:32] <sugoi> asdff: open it, does it have a Control Panel Client folder?
#1472 [16:32] <asdff> do you have turrets ? mingeraft
#1473 [16:32] <sugoi> he speaks polish
#1474 [16:33] <asdff> oh right ok
#1475 [16:33] <Mingeraft> Yes, I've got turrets. Many kinds of turrets. Laser-shooting turrets, bullet-shooting turrets. What turret would you like?
#1476 [16:33] <asdff> so opening it
#1477 [16:33] <asdff> so opening it
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#1479 [16:33] * sugoi sighs
#1479 [16:33] <sugoi> nvcplui.exe thingie
#1480 [16:33] <asdff> lol
#1481 [16:33] <sugoi> run that
#1482 [16:33] <sugoi> dah
#1483 [16:33] <sugoi> food in microwave, brb
#1484 [16:33] <asdff> wait what
#1485 [16:34] <asdff> thre is a file called installer.0
#1486 [16:34] <asdff> that?
#1487 [16:35] <asdff> wait its installer2 and then installer .0 and then theres no file called nvplui.exe
#1488 [16:36] <asdff> i am scared
#1489 [16:36] <sugoi> asdff: was there a folder called "Control Panel Client" ?
#1490 [16:36] <Mingeraft> You're scared of nothing. That sounds like a nasty syndrome. Would you like me to call a mental doctor?
#1491 [16:37] <asdff> its just a bunch of pictures and there's a ie page
#1492 [16:38] <asdff> go ahead mingeraft i think that would help us both and everyone around u
#1493 [16:38] <sugoi> asdff: ? ...
#1494 [16:38] <sugoi> C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Control Panel Client\nvcplui.exe ?
#1495 [16:38] <sugoi> asdff: if not, go to nvidia.com and get their driver for your card
#1496 [16:38] <sugoi> and not your laptop vendor's driver for it
#1497 [16:39] <asdff> C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Installer2\installer.0
#1498 [16:39] <asdff> when i open that it just gives me installer2 , then installer.0 then there's some pictures and a ei page or something and some weird stuf nothing interesting
#1499 [16:40] <sugoi> haah
#1500 [16:40] <asdff> what do you mean not my laptop vendor's driver for it??
#1501 [16:40] <sugoi> weird
#1502 [16:40] <sugoi> i thought you said it was a nvidia ***M card
#1503 [16:40] <sugoi> M, for mobile
#1504 [16:40] <asdff> you though i was on a cell phone?
#1505 [16:41] <asdff> hold on
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#1507 [16:41] <sugoi> no no, mobile - laptop
#1508 [16:41] <sugoi> that's how nvidia names their cards
#1509 [16:41] <asdff> NVIDIA GeForce 9100 (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM v1.1) 185.93
#1510 [16:41] <asdff> The manufacturer of this system requires that you download the driver for your GPU from their support site.
#1511 [16:42] <sugoi> geforce 9100m G, NVIDIA Graphics
#1512 [16:42] <sugoi> that's what you pasted the first time
#1513 [16:42] <asdff> ye
#1514 [16:42] <sugoi> 9100*m*
#1515 [16:42] <asdff> well that's what it says on the laptop sticker thing next to the touchpad
#1516 [16:43] <sugoi> ah ha!
#1517 [16:43] <sugoi> laptop
#1518 [16:43] * sugoi was right
#1518 [16:43] <asdff> ..lolwut?
#1519 [16:43] <Morrolan> sugoi is muted. :3
#1520 [16:43] <asdff> are you seriouse?
#1521 [16:43] <asdff> why
#1522 [16:43] <Morrolan> If he wasn't voiced, that is.
#1523 [16:43] <Morrolan> Oh, was the bot auto-muting him because of the amount of lines per second. ;D
#1524 [16:43] <asdff> oh when will he be back :( ?
#1525 [16:43] <sugoi> flood alert, to mock VoxelHead (for asdff behalf)
#1526 [16:43] <sugoi> 1
#1527 [16:43] <sugoi> 2
#1528 [16:43] <sugoi> 3
#1529 [16:43] <sugoi> 4
#1530 [16:44] <sugoi> haha, voxel!
#1531 [16:44] <asdff> ....lolwut?
#1532 [16:44] <Morrolan> asdff - The auto-muteo nly lasts a few seconds, and since sugoi is voiced the mute doesn't affect him anyway. :)
#1533 [16:44] <sugoi> anyways...let me get you nvidia link
#1534 [16:45] <asdff> dude next to the laptop touch pad says on a sticker thing says GRAPHICS BY NVIDIA GeForce 9100m G. on the website scan thing says NVIDIA GeForce 9100
#1535 [16:46] <sugoi> meh
#1536 [16:46] <sugoi> not a big deal
#1537 [16:46] <asdff> i am scared :( , tell me its gonna be ok
#1538 [16:46] <sugoi> i bet their driver bundle holds both drivers anyways
#1539 [16:46] <asdff> i am don't speck nerd i am not smart
#1540 [16:47] <asdff> but i am gonna try becoming a computer engineer :D
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#1543 [16:47] <asdff> soon i shell understand the secrets of your language
#1544 [16:48] <sugoi> asdff: work, got distracted
#1545 [16:48] <sugoi> so
#1546 [16:48] <asdff> so yeah anyways what's up? u figure it out yet?
#1547 [16:48] <sugoi> asdff: nvidia is nice becase they check your card during install and tell you if you downloaded teh wrong driver
#1548 [16:48] <sugoi> you on 32 or 64bit?
#1549 [16:48] <asdff> cool story bro i did that already last time i was here , .... with you...
#1550 [16:49] <asdff> but we can try it again 32 bit
#1551 [16:49] <sugoi> you already installed their driver?
#1552 [16:49] <sugoi> and it didn't give you a control panel?!
#1553 [16:49] <sugoi> weird...
#1554 [16:49] <asdff> nope said it was a wrong install and next time u gave me another link i downloaded on the admin account, then rebooted and nothing changed
#1555 [16:50] <sugoi> oh, i remember that
#1556 [16:50] <asdff> so i am guessing it didn't really do anything , but like i said like just try again
#1557 [16:52] <asdff> u still there?
#1558 [16:52] <asdff> dude take the laptop with u when u go piss
#1559 [16:52] <sugoi> asdff: the solution is definitely video card and driver
#1560 [16:52] <asdff> multie tasking is fun
#1561 [16:53] <sugoi> i suck at multitasking, tbh
#1562 [16:53] <sugoi> i pretend i can
#1563 [16:53] <asdff> cool so u said something about giving me a link? multitasking*
#1564 [16:53] <sugoi> asdff: but then you reminded me we already did this
#1565 [16:53] <asdff> yeah it was prob a wrong link
#1566 [16:53] <asdff> let's try again no harm it will just tell me if its wrong or something?
#1567 [16:54] <sugoi> yes - it is safe with nvidia
#1568 [16:54] <sugoi> but this should work: http://www.geforce.com/Drivers
#1569 [16:54] <sugoi> use the "auto-detect your gpu" feature
#1570 [16:54] <sugoi> get that driver, install, try minecraft
#1571 [16:54] <sugoi> that really is the best option
#1572 [16:54] <sugoi> beyond that ... don't know
#1573 [16:55] <sugoi> with the control panel, you can tell your grpahics card to ALWAYS be used
#1574 [16:55] <sugoi> default is, "let the app decide when to use your graphcis card"
#1575 [16:55] <sugoi> and for some reason, java says "i dont know your gpu this time, i'm good on my own"
#1576 [16:55] <sugoi> so you can force the gpu to always be used
#1577 [16:55] <asdff> will that break or overheat the laptop
#1578 [16:55] <sugoi> but that's done with nvidia control panel - i don't know if that ^ is the problem, but it was something to try
#1579 [16:56] <asdff> its already a sht storm
#1580 [16:56] <sugoi> for me, one laptop ran _faster_ when doing this, that is all
#1581 [16:56] <sugoi> yours sounds more like an incompatable driver issue
#1582 [16:56] <asdff> i get a run time error
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#1584 [16:57] <asdff> run time error then message next to the thing , Unfortunately we were unable to detect your GPU. Please try again using the manual search
#1585 [16:57] <asdff> the ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffk
#1586 [16:57] <asdff> :(
#1587 [16:57] <sugoi> asdff: language :)
#1588 [16:58] <asdff> :)
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#1590 [16:58] <asdff> so yeah what now
#1591 [16:58] <asdff> java message gives me a run time error
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#1593 [16:59] <asdff> rage quit
#1594 [16:59] <asdff> surgoi we can do this :) come on
#1595 [16:59] <asdff> yor my only hope
#1596 [17:00] <sugoi> s/surgoi/sugoi/
#1597 [17:01] <asdff> ? o.o
#1598 [17:01] <sugoi> asdff: that basically means, "replace 'surgoi' with 'sugoi'"
#1599 [17:02] <asdff> oh yeah
#1600 [17:02] <sugoi> asdff: what OS? windows 7 32 bit?
#1601 [17:02] <asdff> just noticed lolsssssss
#1602 [17:02] <asdff> yeah
#1603 [17:02] <asdff> yeas
#1604 [17:02] <asdff> yeahs
#1605 [17:02] <asdff> yeah'sz
#1606 [17:03] <asdff> yeahs'z101021023
#1607 [17:03] <sugoi> http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/41702
#1608 [17:03] <sugoi> that, based on what you've told me, is your driver :)
#1609 [17:03] <sugoi> so unless your computer is lieing to you, or you're lieing to me
#1610 [17:03] <sugoi> that's your driver :)
#1611 [17:04] <asdff> YES!!!
#1612 [17:04] <asdff> ok ill try it
#1613 [17:04] <asdff> yo avg is being annoying
#1614 [17:04] <asdff> imagine if that was the problem the whole time lols
#1615 [17:05] <asdff> duuuuuude sugoi u so cool
#1616 [17:05] <sugoi> asdff: i'd turn off avg
#1617 [17:05] <sugoi> until we're done
#1618 [17:05] <sugoi> after driver installed, after game works - then turn avg back on
#1619 [17:06] <asdff> k ill try and turn it off sec
#1620 [17:06] <asdff> how do i turn it off?
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#1622 [17:06] <sugoi> asdff: http://forums.cnet.com/7723-6132_102-274495/how-do-i-temporarily-turn-off-avg/
#1623 [17:07] <asdff> well theres no quit AVG when right clicking on the icon , ill just try it from control panal
#1624 [17:08] <asdff> panel*
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#1626 [17:09] <asdff> dam there always gonna be a facking problem
#1627 [17:10] <asdff> yeee i don't know how to turn it off bud
#1628 [17:10] <asdff> :D
#1629 [17:10] * sugoi doesn't run anti-virus; never had a virus
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#1630 [17:10] <Nate_> hello
#1631 [17:10] <asdff> eh k one sec
#1632 [17:10] <Nate_> please help my server console is spazzing out
#1633 [17:10] <sugoi> Nate_: 'cant keep up' messages?
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#1635 [17:11] <Nate_> please help me
#1636 [17:11] <WugBot> Nate_: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1637 [17:11] <Nate_> Alright
#1638 [17:11] <Nate_> Well my server console
#1639 [17:11] <Nate_> whenever someone moves it has ENORMOUSLY spamming errors
#1640 [17:12] <Nate_> any ideas
#1641 [17:12] <Nate_> please help igotta go soon :(
#1642 [17:13] <asdff> k done do i run th download now?
#1643 [17:13] <sugoi> Nate_: mods/
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#1645 [17:13] <sugoi> asdff: yep
#1646 [17:13] <Nate_> mods/?
#1647 [17:13] <Nate_> what is that
#1648 [17:13] <asdff> or should i go on my admin account , wont metter? right?
#1649 [17:13] <sugoi> are you running minecraft_server or craftbukkit?
#1650 [17:13] <sugoi> asdff: admin
#1651 [17:13] <Nate_> craftbukkit
#1652 [17:14] <Nate_> the newest one
#1653 [17:14] <sugoi> Nate_: yeah, craftbukkit is a modified server
#1654 [17:14] <sugoi> modified == mod
#1655 [17:14] <Nate_> ok
#1656 [17:14] <asdff> ok one sec so i ll have re download it :(
#1657 [17:14] <asdff> give me this link when i come back
#1658 [17:14] <asdff> http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/41702
#1659 [17:14] <Nate_> I have already tried to restart all the plugins
#1660 [17:14] <Nate_> it still does it
#1661 [17:14] <Nate_> please help
#1662 [17:14] <sugoi> :mods > Nate_
#1663 [17:14] <WugBot> Nate_: (mods) This channel provides support for the vanilla (unmodded) version of minecraft. If you are having trouble playing one of the first things we'll ask you to do is remove any texture packs or mods.
#1664 [17:14] <WugBot> Nate_: (mods) Support for bukkit can be found in #bukkit. Most usually come with instructions, make sure you read them. Also, you can try youtube for video tutorials.
#1665 [17:14] <Nate_> Its not a normal thing guys
#1666 [17:15] <Nate_> it says like java.
#1667 [17:15] <Nate_> pluginloader.
#1668 [17:15] <sugoi> Nate_: so, if you run minecraft_server (vanilla - no plugins will load either) and you get those errors - then let us know
#1669 [17:15] <Nate_> like millions of times
#1670 [17:15] <sugoi> Nate_: !
#1671 [17:15] <sugoi> Nate_: it's craftbukkit, not minecraft_server
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#1673 [17:15] <asdd> hello
#1674 [17:15] <Nate_> i dont want vanilla
#1675 [17:16] <Nate_> i want plugins!
#1676 [17:16] <sugoi> Nate_: you are completely missing the point -- if you plugins are failing, why are you asking us about it?
#1677 [17:16] <sugoi> we don't make/support the plugins
#1678 [17:16] <Nate_> I dont know which it is!!!!!
#1679 [17:16] <Nate_> SCREW YOU GUYS
#1680 [17:16] <Nate_> you dont know CRAP
#1681 [17:16] <asdd> link plox?
#1682 [17:16] <sugoi> Nate_: run the vanilla server
#1683 [17:16] <Nate_> I DONT WANT VANILLA
#1684 [17:16] <sugoi> Nate_: if you see the errors, let us know
#1685 [17:16] <Nate_> GEEZ
#1686 [17:16] <asdd> wow nate chillaxe your talking to a smart person
#1687 [17:16] <sugoi> but right now, you're not even running minecraft server
#1688 [17:17] <asdd> vanilla is pimp sdfu foo
#1689 [17:17] <sugoi> Nate_: it's a completely different app
#1690 [17:17] <asdd> can i has link please?
#1691 [17:17] <sugoi> Nate_: imagine microsoft word is crashing, do you call adobe tech suppotr?
#1692 [17:17] <sugoi> asdd: to?
#1693 [17:17] <asdd> the one i left and said to give brb, going on admin account -.-
#1694 [17:18] * sugoi scrolls up
#1694 [17:18] <asdd> :)
#1695 [17:18] <sugoi> http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/41702
#1696 [17:18] <asdd> why nate gotta be comming in heh yelling and making everyone depressed
#1697 [17:18] <asdd> rage quited too
#1698 [17:18] <sugoi> asdd: i pretty tough skinned
#1699 [17:19] <asdd> yay
#1700 [17:19] <sugoi> Nate_ is still here
#1701 [17:19] <sugoi> Nate_: did you read my last comment?
#1702 [17:19] <asdd> 0.0
#1703 [17:20] <asdd> i might be playing with a friend today i met on ps3
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#1705 [17:20] <asdd> god dam i hate mw3 so bad its like the most fastest way to get a headace in history
#1706 [17:20] <LilLucy> o_o
#1707 [17:21] <asdd> everytime u die and watch the kill cam u face palm and your face hurts for a week
#1708 [17:21] <Omega_Guardian> my brain tends to focus in on the bad bugs/design of about any game
#1709 [17:21] <asdd> i dont do that though i am calm guy
#1710 [17:21] <sugoi> LilLucy: :)
#1711 [17:21] <LilLucy> Hello
#1712 [17:21] <asdd> lilcucy :) !!!!!
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#1714 [17:22] <sugoi> help mode
#1715 [17:22] <sugoi> eep
#1716 [17:22] <sugoi> :(
#1717 [17:22] * sugoi hides
#1717 [17:23] <asdd> well i get an error surgio , the graphics driver could not find campatible graphics hardware
#1718 [17:23] <LilLucy> asdd
#1719 [17:23] <asdd> .....
#1720 [17:23] <LilLucy> Could you please do the following
#1721 [17:23] <sugoi> asdd: SUGOI
#1722 [17:23] <LilLucy> ??> win/dxidag
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#1724 [17:23] <LilLucy> ??> asdd win/dxidag
#1725 [17:23] <LilLucy> woops
#1726 [17:23] <LilLucy> ??> asdd win/dxdidag
#1727 [17:23] <LilLucy> there we go
#1728 [17:23] <LilLucy> oh my word >_>
#1729 [17:23] <Wugg`Sohoth> asdd: su[tab]
#1730 [17:23] <sugoi> ?? > asdd win/dxdiag
#1731 [17:23] <LilLucy> ??> asdd win/dxdiag
#1732 [17:23] <VoxelHead> asdd: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1733 [17:23] <VoxelHead> asdd: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1734 [17:24] <LilLucy> I typo'd
#1735 [17:24] <sugoi> asdd: read voxel ^
#1736 [17:24] <LilLucy> Sorry kinda hard to type in the dark
#1737 [17:24] <LilLucy> Specially at 12:25 am >_>
#1738 [17:24] <asdd> god dam this is never gonna get fixed
#1739 [17:24] <asdd> http://pastebin.com/4cU0d0Sc
#1740 [17:25] <Wugg`Sohoth> I dont think the driver is up to date
#1741 [17:25] <LilLucy> Seems that way
#1742 [17:25] <LilLucy> Dedicated Memory: 243 MB
#1743 [17:25] <LilLucy> Should be enough
#1744 [17:25] <LilLucy> Have you tried updating everything asdd?
#1745 [17:25] <LilLucy> Also on a completely random note
#1746 [17:26] <LilLucy> Wugg`Sohoth or Wug.. I lost my phone number. Can I have yours ;3?
#1747 [17:26] <Wugg`Sohoth> thats not how that works
#1748 [17:26] <asdd> yeah me and surgoi been working on this all day and yesterday we tried and nothing WORKS
#1749 [17:26] <LilLucy> ok so to make sure Im on the right page
#1750 [17:26] <Wugg`Sohoth> the more you say surgoi, the more I think you're trollong
#1751 [17:26] <LilLucy> When starting the game, it gives that error
#1752 [17:27] <Wugg`Sohoth> :ts/launcher > asdd
#1753 [17:27] <WugBot> asdd: (ts/launcher) Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#1754 [17:27] <WugBot> asdd: (ts/launcher) Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#1755 [17:27] <Wugg`Sohoth> download and run that
#1756 [17:27] <Wugg`Sohoth> when you're done, tell us
#1757 [17:27] <asdd> Wugg`Sohoth lol
#1758 [17:27] <asdd> i am not
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#1760 [17:28] <asdd> k what ?
#1761 [17:28] <jettix> Hmmm...
#1762 [17:28] <jettix> New dec:/block ID for spawn eggs?
#1763 [17:28] <asdd> alright one sec
#1764 [17:28] <jettix> Anyone know?
#1765 [17:29] <asdd> now wht?
#1766 [17:29] <asdd> i still get Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. , why did u want me to download this luancher ?
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#1768 [17:29] <Mingeraft> Is this possible to change the e-mail adress in your account?
#1769 [17:30] <LilLucy> Yes it is
#1770 [17:30] <lemon-rev> asdd because it can, did you update your video card ? and have you tryed also updateing java
#1771 [17:30] <LilLucy> ?? change/email
#1772 [17:30] <LilLucy> ?? index
#1773 [17:30] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#1774 [17:30] <asdd> omg me and sugio ( :D ) , have BEEN TRYING TO FOR @ DAYS
#1775 [17:30] <asdd> 2 DAYS*
#1776 [17:30] <Mingeraft> Uh, what's that.
#1777 [17:30] <lemon-rev> asdd windows or mac ?
#1778 [17:30] <LilLucy> Mingeraft you can change your email at mojang.com as long as your minecraft account is linked with mojang.com
#1779 [17:31] <asdd> sec
#1780 [17:31] <Wugg`Sohoth> probably windows
#1781 [17:31] <LilLucy> http://help.mojang.com/
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#1783 [17:31] <LilLucy> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329523-how-do-i-change-the-email-address-linked-to-my-account-
#1784 [17:31] <LilLucy> There you go
#1785 [17:32] <asdd> windows 7 32 bit, NVIDIA GeForce 9100 ,
#1786 [17:32] <asdd> acer
#1787 [17:32] <Wugg`Sohoth> asdd: you need this http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-winvista-295.73-whql-driver.html
#1788 [17:33] <asdd> alright here we go, my 20nth download hope this works
#1789 [17:33] <Mingeraft> I cannot migrate.
#1790 [17:33] <Mingeraft> It says "An error occured. Please try again later"
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#1792 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> See: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/369784-account-migration-failed
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#1794 [17:34] <asdd> omg i just relized its the same thing
#1795 [17:35] <asdd> that sugoi gave meeeeee
#1796 [17:35] <Mingeraft> Doesn't work.
#1797 [17:35] <Mingeraft> I have no idea what should I do.
#1798 [17:36] <asdd> AND............
#1799 [17:36] <asdd> FAIL.... :(
#1800 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Mingeraft - Contact Mojang at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1801 [17:37] <asdd> nope doesnt work , just like the other 20 download that were given :(
#1802 [17:37] <Mingeraft> Why it just cannot be damn simple.
#1803 [17:37] <Mingeraft> I am using an e-mail that is going to be wiped out in a week.
#1804 [17:37] <Mingeraft> and when that happens I don't know what should I do.
#1805 [17:38] <asdd> any ideas ??
#1806 [17:38] <Morrolan> As long as you don't have to reset your password there won't be any consequences, Mingeraft.
#1807 [17:38] <Mingeraft> And that's the problem.
#1808 [17:39] <Mingeraft> Because MC had many problems with hackers lately.
#1809 [17:39] * LilLucy hugs Morrolan
#1809 [17:39] <asdd> ...
#1810 [17:39] * Morrolan hugs Grim_Reaper
#1810 [17:39] <Morrolan> LilLucy *
#1811 [17:39] <LilLucy> lol
#1812 [17:39] <LilLucy> It's ok
#1813 [17:39] <LilLucy> We both know Im death <3
#1814 [17:39] <asdd> JUST DONT GIVE YOUR PASSWROD TO ANYONE OR FORGET TO LOG OUT AT THE WEBSITE minegraft
#1815 [17:39] <LilLucy> Also make sure your password is very strong
#1816 [17:40] <LilLucy> 12346 is not strong
#1817 [17:40] <asdd> lol
#1818 [17:40] <LilLucy> neither is iwuvmorrolansoverymuchaswellasnotch
#1819 [17:40] <Mingeraft> Have you heard of extra safety by changing the password every month?
#1820 [17:40] <asdd> HEY faces
#1821 [17:40] <Morrolan> Haha.
#1822 [17:40] <asdd> we still helping me or what's up? homes?
#1823 [17:41] <LilLucy> I think my cat just winked at me
#1824 [17:41] <Morrolan> Sorry mate, time's up, insert a coin on the very left and you'll get another five minutes, asdd.
#1825 [17:41] <LilLucy> ^
#1826 [17:42] <asdd> moronlan , i am poor :(
#1827 [17:42] <Mingeraft> Damned Mojang.
#1828 [17:42] <asdd> so everyone just gonna give up on meh?
#1829 [17:42] <Mingeraft> Even changing the E-Mail is so complicated.
#1830 [17:42] <Morrolan> Seriously though, seeing that you already tried to update your GPU driver I wouldn't know what to do.
#1831 [17:43] <asdd> :(
#1832 [17:43] <Morrolan> Are you able to play other modern games with your graphics card?
#1833 [17:43] <asdd> k thank you all for helping meh
#1834 [17:43] <asdd> i have not tried
#1835 [17:43] <Mingeraft> Morrolan, so what should I do if I am un-able to migrate my account for an unknown reason?
#1836 [17:44] <asdd> thank you surgoi
#1837 [17:44] <asdd> TOOTLES !!!!!
#1838 [17:44] <asdd> pinis
#1839 [17:44] <jettix> Hmmm...
#1840 [17:44] <Morrolan> Mingeraft - Use the ilnk GreyVulpine gave you and contat Mojang.
#1841 [17:44] <asdd> ..
#1842 [17:44] <asdd> fuck
#1843 [17:44] * AuBot kicked asdd from #minecrafthelp (Reason: sdd :Please keep it civil.)
#1844 [17:44] <jettix> I used commands to get an Ender Dragon spawn egg... but the spawn egg doesn't work. Why?
#1845 [17:45] <jettix> Any help?
#1846 [17:45] <LilLucy> Because the egg has no use
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#1848 [17:49] <Mingeraft> Also, I want to make my own skin, but why does it draw with a skinny color instead of yellow?
#1849 [17:49] <Mingeraft> I mean, I pick the yellow color but it paints with a skin-like color.
#1850 [17:50] <LilLucy> I think it's due to the format the skin file is in
#1851 [17:50] <Mingeraft> And in what format it is?
#1852 [17:51] <LilLucy> png isn't it
#1853 [17:51] <Mingeraft> It is png, but why does it mess up my colors?
#1854 [17:52] <Mingeraft> I am using GIMP, by the way.
#1855 [17:52] <LilLucy> it might be the images bit color settings if I recall
#1856 [17:52] <LilLucy> Try using a skin editor program
#1857 [17:52] <Mingeraft> Hmm, like what?
#1858 [17:52] <sugoi> Wugg`Sohoth: i have a suspicion he never actually installed that driver
#1859 [17:53] <Wugg`Sohoth> ;host asdd
#1860 [17:53] <WugBot> Unable to determine hostname of asdd. Are you sure you typed it right?
#1861 [17:53] <jettix> Ah...
#1862 [17:53] <LilLucy> [00:53] <Mingeraft> Hmm, like what? minecraft wiki has some links
#1863 [17:53] <jettix> Wiki says unavaible spawn eggs doesn't work in SMP...
#1864 [17:53] <Wugg`Sohoth> fixed
#1865 [17:58] <Mingeraft> I want red eyes but GIMP doesn't let me do this. It's starting to annoy me.
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#1867 [17:59] <sugoi> Wugg`Sohoth: confirmed, he was running 185.93, not
#1868 [17:59] <sugoi> derp, not 295.73
#1869 [18:00] <Wugg`Sohoth> what a shock
#1870 [18:00] <sugoi> yeah
#1871 [18:00] <sugoi> i assumed when he installed it that he really had
#1872 [18:00] <sugoi> :)
#1873 [18:00] <LilLucy> lol
#1874 [18:00] <sugoi> i should have asked for a 2nd dxdiag
#1875 [18:00] <sugoi> [as you did]
#1876 [18:00] <LilLucy> So all along.. he didn't install it?
#1877 [18:00] <sugoi> in thaqt 2nd one, i saw that old version still
#1878 [18:01] <sugoi> LilLucy: nope
#1879 [18:01] <sugoi> next time, let's just remote for him
#1880 [18:01] <LilLucy> :p
#1881 [18:04] <Mingeraft> How do I contact Mojang about the failed account migration again?
#1882 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1883 [18:05] <sugoi> LilLucy: typo, url address panrdora.com <- 'free credit report', 'cheap laptops', 'free ringtones', etc
#1884 [18:05] <sugoi> seems legit
#1885 [18:05] <Mingeraft> GreyVulpine, the only problem is that I don't have a transaction ID or the gift key.
#1886 [18:05] <LilLucy> lol
#1887 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> Is there any way you can find that out? You're going to need something to prove a proof of purchase
#1888 [18:06] <Mingeraft> Can't !paid Mingeraft be enough?
#1889 [18:06] <sugoi> ;hp Mingeraft
#1890 [18:06] <MagiC3PO> Erm, I need help
#1891 [18:06] <WugBot> Mingeraft has paid for minecraft.
#1892 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> Sure. I can go on, say I'm sugoi.
#1893 [18:07] <sugoi> ;host MagiC3PO
#1894 [18:07] <WugBot> Hostname of MagiC3PO is: static-76-14-252-238.or.wavecable.com
#1895 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> !paid sugoi
#1896 [18:07] <MagiC3PO> I can't get onto MC Classic Multiplater
#1897 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> Bah
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#1899 [18:07] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: hehe, payonel
#1900 [18:07] <sugoi> ;hp payonel
#1901 [18:07] <WugBot> payonel has paid for minecraft.
#1902 [18:07] <MagiC3PO> Says it cannot verify player name
#1903 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> I can say I'm a paid member, get control of a paid account, all without proving I made the purchase
#1904 [18:08] <Wugg`Sohoth> MagiC3PO: close any running minecraft instances and then open one
#1905 [18:08] <MagiC3PO> It's Minecraft Classic, via Browser
#1906 [18:08] <Wugg`Sohoth> if you're using the WOM launcher, it might bypass authentication, so you should try the browser one
#1907 [18:08] <Wugg`Sohoth> I know, do it anyway
#1908 [18:08] <MagiC3PO> Wierd. I can get onto another server, but not my normal one
#1909 [18:09] <MagiC3PO> Okay. Never mind then, must be an issue on their end
#1910 [18:12] <MagiC3PO> The server Im having trouble with is the ThunderCraft Dev Server
#1911 [18:12] <MagiC3PO> Oh. Got in
#1912 [18:14] <sugoi> welcome back, Wug
#1913 [18:14] <Wug> >implying I went anywhere
#1914 [18:14] <sugoi> what cured your c'thulhu problem?
#1915 [18:14] * sugoi wonders if that spelling is even close
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#1916 [18:15] <Wug> its vaguely accurate
#1917 [18:15] <Mingeraft> I thought he said "vaginely"
#1918 [18:15] <Wug> I'm going to think of another eldritch nick
#1919 [18:15] <sugoi> wow! got it :) <img src='success-baby.jpg' />
#1920 [18:15] <Mingeraft> Uhm, do you mean a hellish name?
#1921 [18:15] * Wug kicks sugoi (imageposting)
#1921 [18:15] <sugoi> =D
#1922 [18:15] <Wug> Mingeraft: please google eldritch
#1923 [18:15] <sugoi> i stayed up so late last night reading funny memes
#1924 [18:16] <sugoi> it's not good for the brain
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#1927 [18:19] <htaran> Hey I need help?
#1928 [18:19] <Wug> :ww > Halicarnassus
#1929 [18:19] <WugBot> Halicarnassus: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#1930 [18:19] <Wug> FFFFFFFF
#1931 [18:20] <Wug> htaran: that was directed at you
#1932 [18:20] <htaran> K minecraft wont start
#1933 [18:20] <htaran> says run than doesnt even open
#1934 [18:20] <Wug> hmm. do you get an error log called hspidXXXX.log
#1935 [18:20] <Wug> the X's are numbers
#1936 [18:21] <sugoi> and _ ?
#1937 [18:21] <htaran> I have updated java and it worked yesterday. I am not getting any errors no screen opens at all.
#1938 [18:21] <sugoi> htaran: do you have an error file it created for you?
#1939 [18:21] <Wug> so it stopped working when you updated?
#1940 [18:22] <Wug> ehh you know what
#1941 [18:22] <Wug> :tv6
#1942 [18:22] <WugBot> tv6: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/download/version_6x/TeamViewer_Setup.exe
#1943 [18:22] <WugBot> tv6: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1944 [18:22] <Wug> htaran: follow those instructions and I'll fix it for you
#1945 [18:22] <sugoi> lazy
#1946 [18:23] <htaran> no it didn't work then I tried updating java it still doesnt work even after I updated. Wug you want me to teaview?
#1947 [18:23] <Wug> yes
#1948 [18:23] <htaran> k
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#1950 [18:25] <Nephqt> So, I'm trying to connect to a server, and it's saying disconnected from server, took too long to connect. I've already tried re-installing
#1951 [18:25] <LilLucy> wug tv7 is out
#1952 [18:25] <lansiir> Nephqt: Does it happen with all servers, or just the one?
#1953 [18:25] <Wug> LilLucy: I know, theres no linux version
#1954 [18:25] <LilLucy> ahh
#1955 [18:25] <Nephqt> I only play on one multi server =l.
#1956 [18:26] <sugoi> Nephqt: perhaps version mismatch
#1957 [18:26] <sugoi> Nephqt: did you update to 1.2 and they didn't?
#1958 [18:26] <Nephqt> Is there a way to back to down to 1.1 then?
#1959 [18:26] <sugoi> Nephqt: not officially, no
#1960 [18:28] <Nephqt> Thank you.
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#1962 [18:32] <htaran> Can someone else help me i think Wug is ADK
#1963 [18:32] <htaran> AFk
#1964 [18:32] <sugoi> ADK..o
#1965 [18:33] <sugoi> htaran: did he connect?
#1966 [18:33] <htaran> no
#1967 [18:33] <Wug> dslkgs
#1968 [18:33] <Wug> sorry
#1969 [18:33] <Grim_Reaper> Night ~
#1970 [18:33] <sugoi> did you /msg him your ^ ok back
#1971 [18:33] <sugoi> Grim_Reaper: laters
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#1973 [18:41] <Mingeraft> I'm out, it is late.
#1974 [18:41] <Mingeraft> Alas, everyone.
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#1976 [18:49] <Wug> reinstalling java fixes htaran
#1977 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Yay and crap
#1978 [18:49] <sugoi> yeah, seriously, why does java get into this state so often?
#1979 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Because, java.
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#1981 [18:51] <Reko> i just put up a server..... and when i goto the nether its all flat..... how do i fix this
#1982 [18:53] <Reko> anyone
#1983 [18:54] <sugoi> Reko: craftbukkit and mods?
#1984 [18:54] <sugoi> Reko: new nether? or did it exist before?
#1985 [18:54] <Reko> so i need a mod to have nether in multiplayer?
#1986 [18:54] <sugoi> Reko: no, i'm just trying to figure out where you are
#1987 [18:54] <Reko> ok
#1988 [18:55] <Reko> threw up a new bukkit server
#1989 [18:55] <Reko> made a nether portal
#1990 [18:55] <sugoi> so, using craftbukkit . ok
#1991 [18:55] <Reko> went threw it
#1992 [18:55] <Reko> and its completly flat
#1993 [18:55] <sugoi> Reko: it will be more helpful for you to ask on #bukkit
#1994 [18:55] <sugoi> :mods > Reko
#1995 [18:55] <WugBot> Reko: (mods) This channel provides support for the vanilla (unmodded) version of minecraft. If you are having trouble playing one of the first things we'll ask you to do is remove any texture packs or mods.
#1996 [18:55] <WugBot> Reko: (mods) Support for bukkit can be found in #bukkit. Most usually come with instructions, make sure you read them. Also, you can try youtube for video tutorials.
#1997 [18:55] <Reko> no one is in that channel
#1998 [18:56] <sugoi> Reko: 620 ppl on are that channel :)
#1999 [18:56] <sugoi> Reko: one solution might be to run a vanilla server and then copy the nether is creates into your craftbukkit folder
#2000 [18:59] <jschuur> Reko: So if I have a problem with SSP and mods, and there's no channel for the specific mod (or it's a combination of a lot of mods), there's no real channel here to ask for help?
#2001 [19:02] <jschuur> Err. That was for sugoi of course.
#2002 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> jschuur - There is not.
#2003 [19:04] <sugoi> jschuur: there are two parts to why i would not answer a question here. 1. people on the mod-centric channels likely know a lot more than we do (or those of us that know will be there also), and 2. we like to keep the discussion here focused on topic. this 2nd item has been benefits. the many people lurking here can learn about minecraft-vanilla
#2004 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> If there was a person that knew the ins and outs of thousands of plugins and mods and custom texture packs and utilities out there, I think their brain would explode if somebody needed to ask, "How do I install x", "Is y updated for version..", "Why can't I install mod a with mod b".
#2005 [19:04] <sugoi> jschuur: but that's not a hard set rule -- just a guideline
#2006 [19:04] <sugoi> heh, true
#2007 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Needless to say, there isn't a person like that, that we've met
#2008 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> And I've been here for quite a while.
#2009 [19:05] <jschuur> Makes sense. I'm just about to futz with my installation to see why I keep getting saving chunks over and over again, and before I reinstall everything, wanted to make sure there wasn't a place that might be suited to bring my problem up at
#2010 [19:05] <sugoi> jschuur: but if i know i'll help -- but i like to point out first that another channel would be more helpful (most of the time, in general)
#2011 [19:05] <sugoi> jschuur: for me, if newbs come here with vanilla questions - they get priority
#2012 [19:05] <sugoi> right now, it's quiet - i'll help if _I_ can (if i know && i have time)
#2013 [19:06] <sugoi> :)
#2014 [19:06] <sugoi> jschuur: so just saying, as a first response, this isn't the ideal place for those questions
#2015 [19:06] <sugoi> jschuur: would you agree with that?
#2016 [19:07] <jschuur> I understand. No worries. There just seems the potential for a few basic top level pieces of advice that are likely to help in some cases. Like 'delete all your config files and restart' or 'launch with the launcher app and you get a log file to check that crashed' e.g.
#2017 [19:07] <sugoi> true - i could make sure i provide the 'go elsewhere' a bit more tactfully :)
#2018 [19:08] <sugoi> jschuur: with a flat nether, it really sounds like a generator got out of control
#2019 [19:08] <sugoi> and generators are a mod-topic ... one i don't mess with personally
#2020 [19:08] <sugoi> but tact, i should get more of it :)
#2021 [19:09] <jschuur> I vaguely recall it crashed a couple of days ago when I last successfully played it, and I might have been crafting a mod specific item for the first time.
#2022 [19:09] <jschuur> I'm going to try some kind of inventory editor and see if deleting something from my inventory helps
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#2024 [19:11] <sugoi> i need an "area [I] would like to improve in FY13"
#2025 [19:11] <sugoi> anyone ?
#2026 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#2027 [19:11] <sugoi> need some bs for management
#2028 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Give me a little more context?
#2029 [19:12] <sugoi> heh, sorry
#2030 [19:12] <sugoi> work related
#2031 [19:12] <sugoi> fiscal year 13, what area do i want to improve in
#2032 [19:12] <sugoi> it's one of those 'how did you do last year' things
#2033 [19:13] <jschuur> sugoi: "Able to be able to provide better Minecraft mod advice"? ;)
#2034 [19:13] <sugoi> jschuur: SNAP
#2035 [19:14] <jschuur> Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week.
#2036 [19:14] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2036 [19:14] <sugoi> :)
#2037 [19:14] <jschuur> Plus it doesn't look like I'll be able to play anymore Industrialcraft/Buildcraft/RedPower/Forestry on my new world.
#2038 [19:14] * jschuur weeps.
#2038 [19:15] * jschuur pokes around some more in his minecraft folder.
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#2039 [19:25] <jschuur> |8bitben|: Are you the _8bit from this Inside Job fork thread? http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/893091-inside-job-20-minecraft-inventory-editor-for-mac-os-x/
#2040 [19:25] <|8bitben|> jschuur: Nope, sorry. This is me: http://www.minecraftforum.net/user/42751-8bitben/
#2041 [19:27] <Wug> jschuur: you will get your mods. patience
#2042 [19:27] <jschuur> |8bitben|: Gotcha. I was just looking at the other guy's inventory editor when I saw you here.
#2043 [19:27] <|8bitben|> No problem :)
#2044 [19:28] <jschuur> Wug: Well, in my case, patience won't help me with my problem. Just persistence in trying out different fixes ;)
#2045 [19:28] <Wug> well, its probably patience
#2046 [19:28] <Wug> a lot of mods havent updated for 1.2.3
#2047 [19:29] <jschuur> Oh, this happened before 1.2 came out and I haven't updated this instance of my Minecraft folder.
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#2049 [19:31] <Aquadragon99> hey guys
#2050 [19:31] <Aquadragon99> umm.. is there a modloader irc?
#2051 [19:31] <Aquadragon99> I am having problems with it
#2052 [19:32] <Aquadragon99> ..
#2053 [19:32] <Aquadragon99> anyone her
#2054 [19:32] <Aquadragon99> ?
#2055 [19:32] <Aquadragon99> ?
#2056 [19:32] <jschuur> Aquadragon99: #rusicraft maybe?
#2057 [19:32] <jschuur> Err, #risucraft
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#2059 [19:33] <sugoi> Aquadragon99: what about mcpatcher, i use that one
#2060 [19:33] * sugoi sneers at jschuur
#2060 [19:33] <Rich_Tomson> Hello all, have water ladders been removed, I don't seem to be able to get them to work?
#2061 [19:33] <jschuur> sugoi: Not good advice?
#2062 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> Water ladders were removed back in beta
#2063 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> 1.6 or so
#2064 [19:33] <Rich_Tomson> Thanks for the update
#2065 [19:33] <sugoi> jschuur: :)
#2066 [19:34] <jschuur> For what it's worth, the channel topic there is 'General Modding Discussion' ;)
#2067 [19:34] <sugoi> losers
#2068 [19:34] <Rich_Tomson> Now I can quit trying to make them work :)
#2069 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> jschuur - The deal is, #risucraft's been a general modding discussion for a long time. Means they've seen month after month of, "Why won't mod x work with version y.", "How can I install mod z"
#2070 [19:35] <jschuur> I don't mean to get in the way of any channel rivalries. Just pointing out that it's named after the person who released Modloader, and Aquadragon99 asked about that
#2071 [19:35] <jschuur> GreyVulpine: In that case, shielding them from yet another person ain't such a bad thing
#2072 [19:35] <jschuur> GreyVulpine: In that case, shielding them from yet another person ain't such a bad thing
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#2074 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> No channel rivalry here. Just pointing out that #risucraft does deal with modloader, but you need to be aware of the past, and have a thick skin when asking for help
#2075 [19:35] * sugoi lights gasolene-soaked ball on fire
#2075 [19:36] * sugoi throws flames at jschuur
#2075 [19:36] <jschuur> Ohhh, shiny ball!
#2076 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> Also
#2077 [19:36] * jschuur plays with fire.
#2077 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> aquadragon cracked minecraft. Will receive no help
#2078 [19:37] <jschuur> Yeah, agreed on that.
#2079 [19:37] <jschuur> !paid Aquadragon99
#2080 [19:38] <sugoi> for shame!
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#2085 [19:48] <opdelt1> Anyone else getting "Internal Server Error" since upgrading to 1.2.3? I upgraded my server and client, and that's all I get. I have a couple dozen players with the same issue.
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#2088 [20:15] <asdddsa> yo i fixed the drivers, i had to change some stuff in the setup files and stuff,
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#2090 [20:16] <asdddsa> but i wanna use paste bin and show u my info so u guys can tell me its it's ok to run minecraft + a server , with 2 people ..
#2091 [20:16] <asdddsa> for that can u unban me on my other laptop...
#2092 [20:16] <asdddsa> -.-
#2093 [20:17] <asdddsa> HeLLo?
#2094 [20:17] <asdddsa> .....
#2095 [20:17] <asdddsa> hEY
#2096 [20:18] <asdddsa> Hey
#2097 [20:18] <asdddsa> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEy
#2098 [20:18] <asdddsa> i know your there
#2099 [20:18] <asdddsa> sugoi
#2100 [20:18] <asdddsa> hey grey
#2101 [20:18] <asdddsa> anyone?
#2102 [20:19] <asdddsa> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
#2103 [20:19] <Morrolan> You really sho..
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#2106 [20:31] <langkid1> I might be writing a minecraft bot in PHP
#2107 [20:31] <langkid1> I /might/
#2108 [20:32] <langkid1> since I finally figured out how to send data to the MC vanilla server
#2109 [20:32] <Daphonic> hmm anyone not able to get texture packs to work? they are greyed out for me.. everyone i try
#2110 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Daphonic - Make sure you're not using an HD texture pack
#2111 [20:36] <Daphonic> it is a HD pack
#2112 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> HD texture packs are, by default, not compatible with vanilla minecraft.
#2113 [20:36] <Daphonic> cant use them anymore?
#2114 [20:36] <Daphonic> oh :(
#2115 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> You would need to modify minecraft with an HD patch
#2116 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> See http://www.minecraftdl.com/mcpatcher-hd-fix/
#2117 [20:36] <Daphonic> where does one get this? didnt see it on the wiki
#2118 [20:36] <Daphonic> thank you oh lord of the craft
#2119 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't work, try: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-11-123update-223-mcpatcher-hd-fix-233-02/
#2120 [20:40] <Daphonic> first one didnt work
#2121 [20:40] <Daphonic> trying 2nds
#2122 [20:41] <langkid1> GreyVulpine, but I was able to run HD packs in vanilla without patching
#2123 [20:41] <langkid1> are there even higher resolutions of packs now?!
#2124 [20:42] <Daphonic> i was looking at a 512 one
#2125 [20:42] <Daphonic> grr not working :(
#2126 [20:43] <Daphonic> i want to try the LB photoreleasim one
#2127 [20:43] <langkid1> Daphonic, yeah I think it only supports up to 258 or something like that
#2128 [20:43] <langkid1> (in vanilla)
#2129 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Texture_Packs
#2130 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> "The native resolution of Minecraft's Texture is 16×16 (measured pixels in block height and width). 32×32, 64×64, 128×128, 256×256 and 512×512 are referred to as ‘HD’ and requires a 3rd party patcher "
#2131 [20:44] <Daphonic> yea im trying the 256 LB photo realism pack
#2132 [20:44] <Daphonic> i used patcher but nothing
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#2139 [21:31] <CrusaderDeleters> anyone knows cyberdragon's application to version backwards?
#2140 [21:31] <Cole36912> !check 199.192.205.104:25602
#2141 [21:32] <CrusaderDeleters> !check 75.181.97.19:7777
#2142 [21:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Yep. It just wasn't up! :D
#2143 [21:32] <CrusaderDeleters> greyvulpine?
#2144 [21:33] <CrusaderDeleters> do you know cyberdragon's application to version backwards?
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#2146 [21:37] <unitedtigers> Hello there, can somebody help me pls with a question? :)
#2147 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> If you ask it, perhaps
#2148 [21:37] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#2149 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Also, sorry CrusaderDeleters, I have no idea what application you're talking about
#2150 [21:38] <CrusaderDeleters> It was mcnostlgia.
#2151 [21:38] <unitedtigers> i am lookin for the ozelots "CATS" i entered the jungle on my map but can´t find any cats
#2152 [21:38] <CrusaderDeleters> keep looking.
#2153 [21:38] <CrusaderDeleters> they don't always spawn.
#2154 [21:38] <unitedtigers> i should stay a while there?
#2155 [21:39] <unitedtigers> ....
#2156 [21:40] <CrusaderDeleters> keep looking.
#2157 [21:40] <CrusaderDeleters> all we can say.
#2158 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> He left
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#2167 [22:19] <ferminter> is the minecraft server down??
#2168 [22:19] <oldtopman> !isdown
#2169 [22:19] <GreyBot> oldtopman: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#2170 [22:19] <oldtopman> ferminter: nope.
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#2172 [22:21] <mib_yfsm4f> my server keeps saying that its taking too long to connect and its not letting me log in. anything that I can do?
#2173 [22:21] <oldtopman> mib_yfsm4f: Is the server on the same computer as the client?
#2174 [22:22] <mib_yfsm4f> its my server. port forward from my computer to friends
#2175 [22:22] <mib_yfsm4f> my friend is actually on it now but i cant connect
#2176 [22:23] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: have you tried your NAT ip, rather than your public ip / domain name
#2177 [22:25] <mib_yfsm4f> internal exception: java.net.socket.timeout
#2178 [22:25] <mib_yfsm4f> thats the message im getting
#2179 [22:26] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: what version of java are you running?
#2180 [22:26] <mib_yfsm4f> should be the newest version
#2181 [22:26] <mib_yfsm4f> 64 bit and my computer is 64 bit
#2182 [22:27] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: can you check for me? use http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
#2183 [22:28] <mib_yfsm4f> says no working java was detected
#2184 [22:28] <mib_yfsm4f> doesnt really make sense. i played on this server a few days ago
#2185 [22:29] <sugoi> did you update java since then?
#2186 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Probably the server hasn't been updated to 1.2.x
#2187 [22:29] <mib_yfsm4f> have not. maybe i missed the prompt to
#2188 [22:29] <mib_yfsm4f> ill go try that now
#2189 [22:29] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: have you updated your client?
#2190 [22:29] <mib_yfsm4f> client??
#2191 [22:29] <sugoi> minecraft
#2192 [22:30] <sugoi> on your computer - that you play
#2193 [22:30] <mib_yfsm4f> yeah just did a few minutes ago
#2194 [22:30] <mib_yfsm4f> maybe thats what messed me up???
#2195 [22:30] <mib_yfsm4f> need the most current java?
#2196 [22:30] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: and perhaps the server did not update? and neither has your friend?
#2197 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> And what version is the server running?
#2198 [22:30] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: no, you want java 6
#2199 [22:30] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: the client and server should be the same version, and you want the last version 6 of java, not 7
#2200 [22:31] <mib_yfsm4f> ok one sec
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#2202 [22:33] <mib_yfsm4f> just downloaded java 6.31 and still couldnt connect
#2203 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_yfsm4f - And what version is the server running?
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#2205 [22:34] <mib_yfsm4f> how do i check?
#2206 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Check the first line of the server log
#2207 [22:34] <mib_yfsm4f> 1.1
#2208 [22:34] <mib_yfsm4f> how can i chsnge it?
#2209 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the server
#2210 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.net/download
#2211 [22:35] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: after you update the server, your friend will need to update his client
#2212 [22:36] <mib_yfsm4f> i just downloaded the new minecraft but it still didnt work
#2213 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the minecraft_server. Close your server, launch the new one
#2214 [22:36] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: what version is printed in the server console?
#2215 [22:36] <mib_yfsm4f> im guessing i have to change which version the server is running but how do i chnage that?
#2216 [22:36] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: you just 'start' the new one
#2217 [22:36] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: how did you start the current one?
#2218 [22:39] <mib_yfsm4f> i open my server folder and run the server
#2219 [22:39] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: you double click on the server file?
#2220 [22:39] <mib_yfsm4f> was a hamachi server but i started port forwarding
#2221 [22:39] <sugoi> thankfully :)
#2222 [22:39] * sugoi feels dumb for not checking that to begin with
#2222 [22:40] <mib_yfsm4f> start it by double clicking the batch file
#2223 [22:40] <sugoi> batch file? is there a minecraft_server file in there too?
#2224 [22:41] <mib_yfsm4f> its the one with the gears next to it. i may have re named it so im not sure
#2225 [22:41] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: can you edit the batch file?
#2226 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> is it named start-server.bat?
#2227 [22:41] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: where is that from?
#2228 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Classic server software
#2229 [22:41] <mib_yfsm4f> i named it run server.bat
#2230 [22:42] <mib_yfsm4f> not sure how to eit it
#2231 [22:42] <mib_yfsm4f> edit
#2232 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Right click on it -> edit
#2233 [22:42] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: can you copy paste what it has in pastebin?
#2234 [22:42] <sugoi> http://pastebin.com
#2235 [22:42] <sugoi> then submit, and give us the url
#2236 [22:42] <mib_yfsm4f> what what has?
#2237 [22:42] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: is server.bat open for edit now?
#2238 [22:43] <mib_yfsm4f> http://pastebin.com/jSCqSd8w
#2239 [22:43] <mib_yfsm4f> thats all it has
#2240 [22:43] <sugoi> 19:41 < mib_yfsm4f> edit
#2241 [22:43] <sugoi> ail
#2242 [22:43] <sugoi> fail! sorry
#2243 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Ah, bukkit server
#2244 [22:44] <sugoi> yeah, i was trying copy that in
#2245 [22:44] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: so you're running a bukkit server
#2246 [22:44] <mib_yfsm4f> yea that sounds right
#2247 [22:44] <sugoi> 1.1-R1 in fact
#2248 [22:44] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: so you have two options
#2249 [22:45] <sugoi> 1. get all your clients to be on version 1.1 also
#2250 [22:45] <sugoi> or, 2. use the latest minecraft server (1.2.3), and update all clients to 1.2.3
#2251 [22:45] <mib_yfsm4f> i just updated so lets go with option 2
#2252 [22:45] <mib_yfsm4f> my friend will just have to update as well
#2253 [22:45] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: ok - yeah :)
#2254 [22:46] <sugoi> so, download the server file (grey posted it earler)
#2255 [22:46] <sugoi> i'll repost the link. ..
#2256 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> :server
#2257 [22:46] <WugBot> server: You can download the server by clicking the correct link: (For Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe ) (For Linux and OSX: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar )
#2258 [22:46] <sugoi> thanks
#2259 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Grab minecraft_server.jar
#2260 [22:46] * sugoi makes note of :server
#2260 [22:46] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: yeah, see the 2nd one? says (at the end) minecraft_server.jar
#2261 [22:46] <sugoi> download that link, put it in the same folder next to server.bat
#2262 [22:47] <sugoi> let me know when you're done with that
#2263 [22:49] <mib_yfsm4f> ok i clicked the link and downloaded
#2264 [22:49] <sugoi> and put it in that folder?
#2265 [22:49] <mib_yfsm4f> what exactly do i put in the folder?
#2266 [22:49] <sugoi> that minecraft_server.jar you just downloaded
#2267 [22:50] <mib_yfsm4f> i clicked it and it asked me to run it and some weird screen came up
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#2269 [22:50] <sugoi> haha
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#2271 [22:51] <mib_yfsm4f> is there something i have to copy and paste?
#2272 [22:51] <sugoi> DOWNLOAD, not run
#2273 [22:51] <LonelyGod> funnyman69ers
#2274 [22:51] <mib_yfsm4f> im so lost lol sorry
#2275 [22:51] <mib_yfsm4f> just bare with me
#2276 [22:51] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: it's okay, close that 'weird' thing
#2277 [22:51] <mib_yfsm4f> done
#2278 [22:51] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: then, click that link again, and SAVE it
#2279 [22:51] <LonelyGod> youtube.com/funnyman69ersyoutube.com/funnyman69ersyoutube.com/funnyman69ersyoutube.com/funnyman69ersyoutube.com/funnyman69ersyoutube.com/funnyman69ers
#2280 [22:51] <LonelyGod> youtube.com/funnyman69ersyoutube.com/funnyman69ersyoutube.com/funnyman69ers
#2281 [22:51] <LonelyGod> youtube.com/funnyman69ersyoutube.com/funnyman69ersyoutube.com/funnyman69ers
#2282 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> !kb LonelyGod
#2283 [22:51] * GreyBot kicked LonelyGod from #minecrafthelp (Reason: onelyGod :<Kicks:919>)
#2284 [22:52] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: dang it, i had my chance :( used /kick, not ;kick
#2285 [22:52] * sugoi had his chance to use kick for reals the first time :(
#2285 [22:52] <mib_yfsm4f> i saved it,
#2286 [22:52] <mib_yfsm4f> its in my download folder
#2287 [22:52] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: ok, save that to the minecraft server folder
#2288 [22:52] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: yeah, i don't think your download folder is where you want it
#2289 [22:53] <mib_yfsm4f> copy download link?
#2290 [22:53] <sugoi> move it to the other one...next to server.bat and craftbukkit-1.1-R1.jar
#2291 [22:53] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: you have a minecraft_server.jar in your download folder, right? cut and paste that into your minecraft server folder
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#2293 [22:54] <mib_yfsm4f> i clicked and dragged that folder into my server folder. is that right?
#2294 [22:55] <mib_yfsm4f> it didnt give me anything that i could copy and paste
#2295 [22:55] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: i think so -
#2296 [22:55] <sugoi> oh, ok
#2297 [22:55] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: my terminology might be confusing
#2298 [22:55] <mib_yfsm4f> when i clicked it i made me run it and when i right clicked i had no options
#2299 [22:55] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: made you run it? or asked if you wanted to run OR save?
#2300 [22:55] <mib_yfsm4f> run or cancel
#2301 [22:56] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: can we use team viewer?
#2302 [22:56] <mib_yfsm4f> yeah
#2303 [22:56] <sugoi> you can watch me and you'll understand faster what i'm saying
#2304 [22:56] <sugoi> :tv7
#2305 [22:56] <sugoi> :tv6
#2306 [22:56] <WugBot> tv6: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/download/version_6x/TeamViewer_Setup.exe
#2307 [22:56] <WugBot> tv6: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#2308 [22:56] <mib_yfsm4f> downlaoding now
#2309 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> May just want :tv
#2310 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> :tv6 is the version 6 that Wug needs to use, because 7 isn't ported to *nix yet
#2311 [22:57] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: ok
#2312 [22:57] <mib_yfsm4f> 447 902 102
#2313 [22:57] <mib_yfsm4f> pw: 5912
#2314 [22:58] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: close it for a sec
#2315 [22:58] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: well
#2316 [22:58] <sugoi> maybe ok, next time, /msg sugoi
#2317 [22:58] <sugoi> to keep it private
#2318 [22:58] <mib_yfsm4f> gotcha. ill reset it
#2319 [22:58] <sugoi> ok
#2320 [22:59] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: so, say /msg sugoi blahblah
#2321 [22:59] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: that's correct
#2322 [23:01] <jschuur> It's OK, I saw nothing ;)
#2323 [23:02] <sugoi> jschuur: :)
#2324 [23:05] <mib_yfsm4f> something else i need to do? you havent taken me over yet ;) lol
#2325 [23:05] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: haha, i was talking to you in the other chat
#2326 [23:05] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: that explains the silence
#2327 [23:05] <sugoi> :tv
#2328 [23:05] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#2329 [23:05] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#2330 [23:05] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: use that version ^
#2331 [23:05] <mib_yfsm4f> what other chat?
#2332 [23:05] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: it's okay, forget about it
#2333 [23:06] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: so close the last teamviewer, and get this latest version instead
#2334 [23:06] <sugoi> click on "Join Remove Control Session"
#2335 [23:06] <sugoi> Remote*
#2336 [23:08] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: how's it going?
#2337 [23:08] <mib_yfsm4f> dont see join remote control session
#2338 [23:08] <sugoi> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#2339 [23:08] <mib_yfsm4f> want my id and pass?
#2340 [23:08] <sugoi> that link, right?
#2341 [23:08] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: no, close that teamviewer
#2342 [23:08] <sugoi> go to: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#2343 [23:09] <sugoi> click on "Join Remote Control Session"
#2344 [23:09] <mib_yfsm4f> downloaded full version :/
#2345 [23:09] <mib_yfsm4f> one sec
#2346 [23:09] <sugoi> just below the big green button
#2347 [23:10] <mib_yfsm4f> that should be right
#2348 [23:10] <sugoi> ok
#2349 [23:10] <sugoi> sec
#2350 [23:11] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: k, hold for a minute
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#2352 [23:16] <jschuur> You're a very patient helper, sugoi. Thanks.
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#2355 [23:17] * GreyVulpine feels a netsplit coming on
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#2356 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> Rather large one.
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#2359 [23:20] <BuckShot74> Why is it takign so long to send me my email verification
#2360 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> Automated process, just be patient. Check your junk mail folder(s)
#2361 [23:21] <BuckShot74> ok. its been about 20min and nothing in my junk mail. How long does it usually take?
#2362 [23:21] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: i disconnect (on purpose)
#2363 [23:21] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: try your client now
#2364 [23:21] <BuckShot74> nevermind just got it
#2365 [23:21] <BuckShot74> thanks
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#2367 [23:22] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: hello?
#2368 [23:22] <Finamenon> evening
#2369 [23:22] <mib_yfsm4f> worked but my brick is on fire and no water ???? lol
#2370 [23:22] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: haha
#2371 [23:22] <mib_yfsm4f> run patcher?
#2372 [23:22] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: first ---
#2373 [23:22] <sugoi> everything appears to be working now?
#2374 [23:23] <mib_yfsm4f> it let me log in so i guess so
#2375 [23:23] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: ok :)
#2376 [23:23] <sugoi> i'd hold off on mods and patches for a bit
#2377 [23:23] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: until you your mods update
#2378 [23:23] <sugoi> they aren't 1.2.3 ready
#2379 [23:23] <mib_yfsm4f> so run default texture pack for now?
#2380 [23:24] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: you are free to run your patcher and textures right now
#2381 [23:24] <sugoi> but the textures may need to be updated
#2382 [23:24] <mib_yfsm4f> ok. i dont use mods. just dokucraft texture pack
#2383 [23:24] <sugoi> if things break, just 'force update' on minecraft
#2384 [23:24] <mib_yfsm4f> ok
#2385 [23:25] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: one last thing, can you keep a secret?
#2386 [23:25] <sugoi> :)
#2387 [23:25] <mib_yfsm4f> ya
#2388 [23:25] <sugoi> when i was copying that file for you, i saw your username - we have the same real-life name :)
#2389 [23:26] <sugoi> :0
#2390 [23:28] <mib_yfsm4f> i tried to open my texture pack folder and now minecraft isnt responding :/
#2391 [23:29] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: heh
#2392 [23:29] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: open %appdata%
#2393 [23:29] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: just type %appdata% in a file browser address line
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#2395 [23:30] <sugoi> ?? reinst/win
#2396 [23:30] <sugoi> ?? win/reinst
#2397 [23:30] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2398 [23:30] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2399 [23:30] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: ^^ do that
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#2402 [23:33] <mib_yfsm4f> did that and same thing happened
#2403 [23:33] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: when you ran minecraft, did it update?
#2404 [23:33] <mib_yfsm4f> tried to open texture pack folder and minecraft stopped responding
#2405 [23:33] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: haha :)
#2406 [23:33] <mib_yfsm4f> no
#2407 [23:34] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: i laugh because i didn't expect that to be any different
#2408 [23:34] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: i don't think your texture is ready for 1.2.3
#2409 [23:34] <mib_yfsm4f> :(
#2410 [23:34] <Blockhead> Hi all -- here's my question: After 5-6 minutes of playing Minecraft, it crashes -- either black screen or artifacting -- and I get a message saying my nvidia kernel stopped working but it was able to recover. I have tried numerous times reinstalling my drivers. Nothing helps!
#2411 [23:34] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: so, we want to get your client back to vanilla 1.2.3
#2412 [23:34] <mib_yfsm4f> i cant even open the folder in minecraft
#2413 [23:34] <sugoi> what folder in minecraft?
#2414 [23:35] <mib_yfsm4f> when you click texture pack and at the bottom it says open texture pack folder
#2415 [23:35] <mib_yfsm4f> when i click it it stops responding
#2416 [23:35] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: you ran the patcher?
#2417 [23:36] <mib_yfsm4f> i havent moved the texture pack there yet cause i cant open the folder :( when i deleted everything except saves it took it out of the folder
#2418 [23:36] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: i understand
#2419 [23:36] <sugoi> but...
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#2421 [23:37] <sugoi> 1. remove the folders from %appdata%/.minecraft except saves/
#2422 [23:37] <sugoi> 2. run minecraft again, let it update
#2423 [23:37] <sugoi> 3. do not run the patcher, play without texture packs
#2424 [23:37] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: which item (1, 2, or 3) do you have a question about?
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#2426 [23:39] <mib_yfsm4f> ok i deleted everything
#2427 [23:39] <mib_yfsm4f> downloaded and ran minecraft
#2428 [23:39] <mib_yfsm4f> it updated and now i stopped
#2429 [23:40] <mib_yfsm4f> so just play without texture packs. i get that. but why when i tried to open the texture pack folder did minecraft freeze?
#2430 [23:40] <sugoi> i don't know, was that a patched* version of minecraft?
#2431 [23:40] <sugoi> i mean, had you run the patcher, THEN minecraft client
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#2433 [23:41] <mib_yfsm4f> im not sure. its a bit overwhelming
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#2435 [23:41] <mib_yfsm4f> i think im gonna just take a break and figure it out later
#2436 [23:41] <sugoi> mib_yfsm4f: it's okay :) if it was patched, it could be that patcher's fault
#2437 [23:41] <mib_yfsm4f> im sure we'll be talking soon
#2438 [23:41] <mib_yfsm4f> thanks for all the help
#2439 [23:41] <sugoi> heh
#2440 [23:41] <sugoi> np
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#2442 [23:42] <bejoe905> Has anyone had random client crashes that generate a report in the launcher directory?
#2443 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Paste the contents of the hs_err_pid file to pastebin.com and give us the URL
#2444 [23:43] <bejoe905> working on it atm, i knew you would ask lol
#2445 [23:44] <bejoe905> http://pastebin.com/xtQ0ndaw
#2446 [23:44] <bejoe905> i was around some iron golems at the time
#2447 [23:45] <sugoi> sound system
#2448 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Looks like you're running a pretty old version of Java 6. I'd first start by updating that.
#2449 [23:45] <sugoi> interesting
#2450 [23:45] <sugoi> ah, that too
#2451 [23:45] <sugoi> GreyVulpine is so good at this
#2452 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> If it still occurs, I'd then consider updating lwjgl. It contains the OpenAL files with it
#2453 [23:46] <bejoe905> how would i go about that?
#2454 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Updating lwjgl? See: http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
#2455 [23:46] <bejoe905> oh, okay
#2456 [23:46] <sugoi> bejoe905: java version 6u31: http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=60338
#2457 [23:47] <bejoe905> d/ling now
#2458 [23:47] <sugoi> that's 64bit too, as i see that's what you were running before
#2459 [23:47] <bejoe905> thanks~
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#2461 [23:48] <Guest> anyone know how to deal wth "java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out" on the server end?
#2462 [23:49] <bejoe905> Disconnect before the server stops
#2463 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> If it only affects one player, most likely the player.dat is corrupt. Delete/move it from the /world/players folder
#2464 [23:50] <Guest> it's hard to tell if it's just one person since the server is just for 3 people, 2 of which are on the same connection
#2465 [23:50] <Guest> but deleting the player dat file didn't help. i've also generated new worls
#2466 [23:50] <Guest> worlds*
#2467 [23:51] <bejoe905> sounds like its overloaded
#2468 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Well, is it a vanilla or modded server?
#2469 [23:51] <Guest> it's vanilla
#2470 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Running what version?
#2471 [23:51] <Guest> fresh install yesterday of the latest server jar
#2472 [23:51] <Guest> one person keeps getting socket exceptions after like 30 seconds
#2473 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Running the latest version? 1.2.3 is the current stable
#2474 [23:52] <Guest> Yup latest
#2475 [23:52] <bejoe905> tangential question: What exactly goes on with a socket exception?
#2476 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the specific exception.
#2477 [23:52] <bejoe905> okay, read time-out
#2478 [23:52] <Guest> i can show the stack trace if that helps
#2479 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Read timed out means the connection was aborted due to either a firewall/security software issue that's filtering connections..
#2480 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Or a corrupt player.dat, which the connection was cut off due to malformed data
#2481 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> The stack trace would help. Could you paste it at www.pastebin.com?
#2482 [23:53] <Guest> sure thing
#2483 [23:53] <Wug> socket exceptions tend to be a network issue
#2484 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> I've also seen read timed out on servers running off of hamachi, as well as due to various firewalls, including zonealarm, comodo, and others
#2485 [23:55] <Guest> http://pastebin.com/eJAXEas4
#2486 [23:55] <Wug> does he get to play at all before he gets disconnected or ...
#2487 [23:55] * Wug has a sudden suspicion
#2487 [23:55] <Guest> hey guys thanks for the help
#2488 [23:56] <Guest> retarded friend who claimed he had no firewall preventing access was incorrect after i saw it for myself :)
#2489 [23:56] <bejoe905> lol
#2490 [23:56] <Wug> ;hp Kermit_the_BAMF
#2491 [23:56] <WugBot> Kermit_the_BAMF has paid for minecraft.
#2492 [23:56] <Wug> Guest: it was a firewall then? ok
#2493 [23:56] <Wug> my suspicion was incorrect it seems
#2494 [23:57] <bejoe905> did you think it was a corrupt player.dat?
#2495 [23:57] <Wug> no, I thought he might be using a cracked version and was having the relevant knowledge issue
#2496 [23:57] <Guest> yup was teh firewall on his end. i only bothered checking the server's end
#2497 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> RK does this as well?
#2498 [23:58] <Wug> GreyVulpine: I've never seen that happen before, most people who have the rk issue never get past loading
#2499 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> Ah, *nod*
#2500 [23:58] <bejoe905> rk?
#2501 [23:58] <Wug> I don't know how it would act. it was a conjecture
#2502 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> Relevant knowledge. It's a malware that we sometimes see around here
#2503 [23:58] <Wug> causes connection issues
#2504 [23:58] <bejoe905> ah
#2505 [23:59] <Wug> particularly when downloading packages, but theres no indication it wouldnt interfere with other things too