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#11 [01:47] <neersighted> I_Eat_Plastic: that can't be good for your stomach
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#33 [05:35] <dervishkid> anyone know about the server file system. to the point the map files and how each links to what area on a world map?
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#45 [08:12] <julien> Hello all, I can't play minecraft , in multiplayer mode...
#46 [08:12] <julien> is there anybody who would like to try to help me? :)
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#50 [08:18] <Morrolan> julien - Ask your question and you'll see whether someone can help you.
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#52 [08:20] <julien> well I don't know what my question is, just if i try to play on multiplayer's mode, i got either:
#53 [08:21] <julien> Internal exception: Java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
#54 [08:21] <julien> or
#55 [08:21] <julien> Connection lost
#56 [08:21] <julien> End of stream
#57 [08:21] <julien> I'm using linux mint 12
#58 [08:21] <julien> ...
#59 [08:21] <julien> Don't really know what to do
#60 [08:24] <sugoi> julien: you should make sure you are using java 6 update 31, and not java 7
#61 [08:25] <sugoi> julien: also, make sure your client and server versions match
#62 [08:25] <julien> Yep i'm sure i have java 6
#63 [08:25] <sugoi> beyond that, i'm going to bed because i have work in 3 hours
#64 [08:25] <julien> How Can i know the server version?
#65 [08:25] <sugoi> julien: ask the admin :)
#66 [08:25] * sugoi is out
#66 [08:25] <julien> Ok good night sugoi
#67 [08:31] <Juze> julien: It doesn't matter much if you're using Java 6 or Java 7, the people here just dislike Java 7. I prefer J7 personally myself but it's out of the support.
#68 [08:32] <Juze> Also, have you tried any other servers?
#69 [08:32] <julien> I tries 3 of them
#70 [08:32] <julien> tried
#71 [08:32] <julien> sorry
#72 [08:32] <Juze> Firewall blocking java.exe or javaw.exe?
#73 [08:32] <julien> I'm using linux
#74 [08:32] <Juze> Ah right
#75 [08:32] <julien> and i turned of the firewall
#76 [08:32] <Juze> iptables configured?
#77 [08:33] <julien> Well on my computer it seems so
#78 [08:33] <julien> but i have a doubt
#79 [08:33] <julien> Maybe my internet box
#80 [08:33] <julien> is blocking some ports...
#81 [08:33] <julien> do u think it's possible?
#82 [08:33] <Juze> Try connecting to this IP, I'll query it
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#84 [08:39] <Calinou> julien: do you have OpenJDK or sun's java?
#85 [08:39] <Calinou> occasionally OpenJDK has problems - and, since it's opensource java - most linux distros instead use openjdk
#86 [08:39] <Calinou> julien: also are you _sure_ it's not the server's fault?
#87 [08:40] <Juze> Calinou: He tested my server aswell
#88 [08:40] <Calinou> k
#89 [08:40] <Juze> I saw his IP attempt
#90 [08:40] <Juze> But got refused
#91 [08:40] <Calinou> disable any firewall you have (software firewalls are useless IMO)
#92 [08:40] <Juze> 23:33:20 [INFO] /84.-snip- lost connection
#93 [08:41] <Juze> To be honest, I reinstalled my servers yesterday
#94 [08:41] <Juze> Haven't tested anything
#95 [08:42] <Juze> Server 1.0.1 lol
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#97 [08:46] <julien> Hello
#98 [08:46] <julien> sorry
#99 [08:46] <julien> i missed that
#100 [08:46] <Calinou> +q hammer strikes again... do not use "enter" as punctuation :)
#101 [08:46] <julien> well Calinou: I'm sure of nothing, but i tried 4 different severs
#102 [08:46] <julien> I think I don't hqve ane firewall
#103 [08:47] <Calinou> speaking of software firewalls - on your linux mint installation
#104 [08:47] <julien> I got one
#105 [08:47] <julien> but i's off already
#106 [08:47] <Calinou> ok, now can you open a terminal (ctrl+alt+T) and type this?
#107 [08:47] <Calinou> java -version
#108 [08:47] <Calinou> tell me the output please
#109 [08:49] <julien> java version "1.6.0_23"
#110 [08:49] <julien> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11pre) (6b23~pre11-0ubuntu1.11.10.1)
#111 [08:49] <julien> OpenJDK Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode)
#112 [08:50] <julien> l
#113 [08:51] <julien> Still here Calinou?
#114 [08:52] <Calinou> OpenJDK ^
#115 [08:52] <Calinou> I'm not sure at all if sun's java is included in linux mint's repos, but check in the software center
#116 [08:52] <Calinou> search "java"
#117 [08:53] <julien> hum
#118 [08:53] <julien> strange that
#119 [08:53] <julien> didn't check
#120 [08:53] <julien> I had openjdk
#121 [08:54] <julien> i changed it for the java one
#122 [08:54] <julien> ...
#123 [08:54] <julien> Ok i'm gonna restart the computer
#124 [08:55] <julien> 'cause according to the software center
#125 [08:55] <julien> i do have the java_sun
#126 [08:55] <julien> and not the open JDL
#127 [08:55] <julien> also whan i start minecraft
#128 [08:55] <julien> i have to "open with sun java 6 runtime
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#131 [09:04] <julien> Hello All
#132 [09:04] <julien> Calinou?
#133 [09:04] <julien> i'm back
#134 [09:05] <julien> Ok so:
#135 [09:05] <julien> I still got openjdk according to java -version
#136 [09:05] <julien> wich i really don't get
#137 [09:06] <julien> ok
#138 [09:07] <julien> I still had a deb that wasn't properly deleted
#139 [09:07] <julien> now it's away
#140 [09:07] <julien> and i got
#141 [09:07] <julien> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_26-b03)
#142 [09:07] <julien> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 20.1-b02, mixed mode)
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#144 [09:21] <FaBeQuiet> Hi, I have a problem with my Minecraft Server. Im running it on a vServer with Debian 6.0. After setting it up everthing looks fine. I'm able to connect, but after a few minutes the game ends with a Java Error. In Minecraft it says: Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset.
#145 [09:22] <FaBeQuiet> in the ssh client I got a java error: A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # Internal Error (synchronizer.cpp:1802), pid=296, tid=140386850936576 # Error: guarantee(mid->header()->is_neutral(),"invariant") # # JRE version: 6.0_18-b18 # Java VM: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (14.0-b16 mixed mode linux-amd64 )
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#148 [09:37] <oldtopman> FaBeQuiet: Minecraft does not like OpenJRE.
#149 [09:37] <oldtopman> You need to switch to sun-java
#150 [09:38] <FaBeQuiet> okay, thank you. I'll try sun.
#151 [09:38] <julien> I've got the same message with sun-java
#152 [09:38] <julien> Except, i can't even log in for one second
#153 [09:39] <oldtopman> FaBeQuiet: You're going to have to add non-free sources, you know how to do that, right?
#154 [09:39] <FaBeQuiet> no. I'm new to ssh. I just know aptitude install
#155 [09:40] <FaBeQuiet> You know an easy tutorial?
#156 [09:41] <Calinou> check the firewall
#157 [09:41] <FaBeQuiet> Oh I think I found one. I'll try this.
#158 [09:41] <Calinou> disable any software firewall you/the server has
#159 [09:41] <Calinou> keep the hardware firewall (your router's) on your computer of course 8)
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#161 [09:43] <julien> oh calinou us back
#162 [09:43] <julien> any suggestions for me ? :p
#163 [09:43] <MK> I had some questions about tree growth mechanics, is there a guide somewhere or shall I ask my questions here? I found the wiki article to be a bit lacking in information, and perhaps outdated
#164 [09:44] <Calinou> MK: http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tree
#165 [09:44] <Calinou> also, hi :)
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#167 [09:44] <MK> So it is up to date?
#168 [09:44] <Calinou> so yeah - trees require space to grow, pine trees require a bit more space than oak/birch
#169 [09:44] <Calinou> (oak = "default" trees)
#170 [09:44] <Calinou> it's up-to-date, yes
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#172 [09:44] <Calinou> you can see the latest edit's date on the bottom of the page
#173 [09:45] <MK> Alright, thanks. The changelog for the game calls the Spruce instead of Pine now, I should edit all the instances of that in the wiki :D
#174 [09:45] <MK> them*
#175 [09:46] <julien> Calinou?
#176 [09:46] <Calinou> MK: don't do that, get consensus of the users/admins first
#177 [09:47] <Calinou> some people prefer calling it "pine", some other people "spruce" and others "redwood"
#178 [09:47] <MK> and others conifer :D
#179 [09:47] <Calinou> birch/pine wood has _no_ ingame name
#180 [09:47] <Calinou> having the cursor on them only shows "Wood" or "Sapling", having no evidence
#181 [09:48] <MK> http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/post/18600004768/minecraft-1-2-3
#182 [09:48] <MK> :D
#183 [09:49] <Calinou> hmm, okay
#184 [09:49] <Calinou> write something on community portal's talk page ;)
#185 [09:50] <Calinou> julien: ok, does minecraft singleplayer work?
#186 [09:50] <julien> Yup
#187 [09:50] <julien> no problem with
#188 [09:50] <julien> that
#189 [09:50] <julien> I don't know if you got my previous messages
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#191 [09:51] <julien> so just to let u knwo: I had on deb that was still there (haven't been remove)
#192 [09:51] <julien> no i removed if
#193 [09:51] <julien> it
#194 [09:51] <julien> and I don't have openjdk at all anymore
#195 [09:51] <julien> java -version
#196 [09:51] <julien> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_26-b03)
#197 [09:52] <julien> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 20.1-b02, mixed mode)
#198 [09:52] <julien> The thing is, I got another compute on widnows and i got the same prob with it...
#199 [09:52] <julien> really don't know what to do!
#200 [09:55] <MK> "Birch and spruce seem to require a 5*6 and 5*7(height of tree) volume, respectively, starting at one meter above the base of the sapling"
#201 [09:55] <MK> does this mean the blocks directly adjacent to the sapling can be occupied?
#202 [09:57] <Calinou> julien: are you using wifi or ethernet?
#203 [09:57] <julien> ethernet
#204 [09:58] <Calinou> what's your router's brand/ISP? are you sure it allows outgoing/incoming connections to the port "25565" in TCP?
#205 [09:58] <julien> Well i did configure it
#206 [09:58] <julien> the thing is, when i do a scan from the outside
#207 [09:58] <julien> the scans says, that all my ports are closed
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#210 [10:06] <MK> And, do spruces take longer to grow in non-taiga biomes?
#211 [10:07] <Calinou> no - growth times are always the same time, regardless of the biome
#212 [10:10] <MK> Alright
#213 [10:10] <clarjon1> I like the new tree growth stuff, it's a lot easier to grow dense treefarms :)
#214 [10:10] <clarjon1> s/stuff/algorithms/
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#218 [10:19] <george> hello
#219 [10:19] <Guest37735> some technical help on a bizzare prob would be appreciated
#220 [10:21] <kermi> hi
#221 [10:21] <kermi> do you need help
#222 [10:21] <kermi> with what?
#223 [10:21] <Guest37735> I have an issue with the installer
#224 [10:21] <kermi> ok
#225 [10:21] <Guest37735> first things first
#226 [10:21] <kermi> tell me
#227 [10:21] <kermi> or just install teamviewer
#228 [10:22] <kermi> and i will help you fast
#229 [10:22] <Guest37735> my system: windows 7 home, just updated java, my system is a laptop that has not had anmy problem running mc in the past
#230 [10:23] <Guest37735> some days ago I wanted to perform a clean install of mc
#231 [10:23] <kermi> yes
#232 [10:23] <Guest37735> so I uninstalled it by erasing .minecraft
#233 [10:23] <kermi> oh
#234 [10:23] <Guest37735> from that time on, clicking on the downloadable installer does nothing
#235 [10:24] <kermi> type on google teamviewer download
#236 [10:24] <kermi> and download
#237 [10:24] <Guest37735> I get the warning about "would you like to run that file", I click yes, and then... nada
#238 [10:24] <kermi> that
#239 [10:24] <Guest37735> ok
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#241 [10:24] <kermi> so i can see the problem with my own eyes
#242 [10:24] <Guest37735> ok
#243 [10:28] <Guest37735> ok, teamviewer up and running
#244 [10:28] <kermi> pm me the 6 digit id and password
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#246 [10:40] <FaBeQuiet> I'm failing with the installation of sun java.
#247 [10:40] <FaBeQuiet> Is there an easy way for noobs?
#248 [10:42] <Morrolan> On what operating system, FaBeQuiet?
#249 [10:43] <FaBeQuiet> debian squeeze 64bit
#250 [10:43] <FaBeQuiet> debian 6.0
#251 [10:45] <MK> "Birch and spruce seem to require a 5*6 and 5*7(height of tree) volume, respectively, starting at one meter above the base of the sapling"
#252 [10:45] <MK> does this mean the blocks directly adjacent to the sapling can be occupied?
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#255 [10:51] <FaBeQuiet> Morrolan, are you able to help me?
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#260 [10:57] <oldtopman> FaBeQuiet:
#261 [10:57] <oldtopman> Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then aptitude update. But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses
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#263 [11:00] <FaBeQuiet> okay so far
#264 [11:00] <FaBeQuiet> and now ?
#265 [11:02] <oldtopman> apt-get install sun-java
#266 [11:02] <oldtopman> (AFAIK)
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#269 [11:02] <FaBeQuiet> what is AFAIK ?
#270 [11:02] <FaBeQuiet> ah okay ^^
#271 [11:05] <clarjon1> FaBeQuiet: AFAIK == As Far As I Know
#272 [11:06] <FaBeQuiet> why its impossible to check the verion?
#273 [11:06] <FaBeQuiet> version*
#274 [11:07] <FaBeQuiet> when I'm typing: java -version
#275 [11:07] <FaBeQuiet> it says Error occurred during initialzation of VM
#276 [11:07] <FaBeQuiet> Could not reserve enough space for object heap
#277 [11:07] <FaBeQuiet> Could not create the Java virtual machine
#278 [11:09] <xales> FaBeQuiet: How much RAM does your computer have?
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#280 [11:11] <FaBeQuiet> ist a vServer. 1GB RAM
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#284 [11:13] <FaBeQuiet> 1 GB RAM guaranteed, 2 GB dynamic
#285 [11:14] <xales> FaBeQuiet: That would probably be the issue
#286 [11:14] <xales> The error means that Java is not able to allocate enough RAM.
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#288 [11:15] <FaBeQuiet> 1 GB is not enough?!
#289 [11:16] <xales> For Minecraft? Not by default, no.
#290 [11:17] <FaBeQuiet> no just to run java. nothing more
#291 [11:17] <xales> I forget what Java allocates by default, but it's quite a bit.
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#295 [11:39] <MK> Calinou I overhauled the tree article, how is it?
#296 [11:39] <MK> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tree
#297 [11:39] <MK> rather
#298 [11:39] <MK> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=Tree&oldid=271896
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#301 [11:46] <luxius> Is this the place to ask about mod confs?
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#303 [11:46] <blaphmat> HI
#304 [11:46] <blaphmat> need help for minecraft
#305 [11:46] <luxius> ask away, as AuBot says
#306 [11:47] <blaphmat> it doesn't start
#307 [11:47] <luxius> which OS?
#308 [11:47] <blaphmat> neither in btowser nor with the launcher
#309 [11:47] <blaphmat> win 7
#310 [11:47] <luxius> Java problem, probably
#311 [11:47] <luxius> go to www.java.com and check
#312 [11:47] <Calinou> also I uploaded a few new screenshots, MK
#313 [11:47] <MK> nice
#314 [11:47] <Calinou> yeah I like it
#315 [11:47] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Screentree1.png
#316 [11:47] <MK> I cleaned up the article I alot
#317 [11:50] <blaphmat> Wow cool, just installed it short time ago but its broken
#318 [11:50] <blaphmat> thx
#319 [11:51] <luxius> ^_^
#320 [11:51] <Morrolan> Eh, "screentree1.png"? Seriously? ^^
#321 [11:51] <luxius> yeah, he's veeery serious -.-
#322 [11:52] <luxius> Morrolan, don't be an ass. Criticise with words.
#323 [11:52] <Morrolan> Eh?
#324 [11:53] <luxius> Canadian?
#325 [11:53] <Morrolan> No?
#326 [11:53] <luxius> ...
#327 [11:53] <luxius> cause Canadians say eh, eh?
#328 [11:54] <Morrolan> Ah, forgot that Canadians are the only ones who say "eh". :)
#329 [11:54] <luxius> probably not
#330 [11:54] <luxius> but your logic fails, anyway
#331 [11:55] <luxius> if A) Hitler was a fascist and B) Hitler was a white guy, then you conclude that C) all white guys are fascists?
#332 [11:55] <Morrolan> What on earth are you referring to?
#333 [11:56] <Morrolan> I can't follow you at all.
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#335 [11:56] <EyesIsMine> Calinou, how did you get thos badges
#336 [11:56] <luxius> never mind ... you'll get around logics some time in your life.
#337 [11:56] <EyesIsMine> like alpha player beta player etc
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#339 [11:56] <Morrolan> luxius - Look, you really should watch your behaviour a bit.
#340 [11:57] <luxius> Morrolan, ditto
#341 [11:57] <luxius> so can I ask about mod confs here or get a point in the right direction?
#342 [11:57] <Morrolan> If you think I was rude, then how about telling me _where_ instead of throwing around insults?
#343 [11:57] <Morrolan> As for mod configs, ask in the mod's thread.
#344 [11:57] <luxius> <Morrolan> Eh, "screentree1.png"? Seriously? ^^
#345 [11:58] <Calinou> also, I didn't choose the file name
#346 [11:58] <Calinou> I uploaded a new version
#347 [11:58] <Calinou> you can have different resolution (but same format)
#348 [11:58] <Morrolan> I know, Calinou.
#349 [11:58] <BLBLBLBL> i'm back, installed java again and minecraft starts loading in browser but the game isn't starting. And with launcher it doesn't work
#350 [11:58] <Morrolan> luxius - This wasn't rude, was a remark about the fielname.
#351 [11:58] <Morrolan> filename*
#352 [11:58] <luxius> you didn't clarify that, did you?
#353 [11:59] <Morrolan> If I would have to make sure that each sentence I write is absolutely clear I'd have to write pretty long sentences, don't you think?
#354 [11:59] <MK> This discussion is now about redstone
#355 [11:59] <luxius> BLBLBLBL, force update minecraft, did you try that?
#356 [11:59] <Morrolan> Generally one should assume that, as long as something is not _clearly_ insulting it plain and simple is _not_ meant insulting.
#357 [11:59] <Morrolan> When in doubt, ask.
#358 [12:00] <Morrolan> MK - Works for me.
#359 [12:00] <BLBLBLBL> yes it doesn't either
#360 [12:00] <BLBLBLBL> sry doesn't work either
#361 [12:02] <Calinou> BLBLBLBL: OS, java version?
#362 [12:02] <Calinou> if you're on a 64 bit OS install 64 bit java
#363 [12:03] <MK> If you place leaves you gathered using silk touch, will they decay?
#364 [12:03] <BLBLBLBL> java 6.0.31
#365 [12:03] <BLBLBLBL> what's OS?
#366 [12:04] <BLBLBLBL> for mac?
#367 [12:04] <Morrolan> OS means "Operating System", for example "Mac OS X", "Windows 7", "Arch Linux" etc etc.
#368 [12:05] <BLBLBLBL> i have win7
#369 [12:05] <Morrolan> 64 or 32 bit Windows 7? You can check by pressing Win+Break, it's listed under "System type"
#370 [12:06] <Morrolan> if win+break doesn't work open the start menu -> control panel -> system
#371 [12:06] <BLBLBLBL> 64 bit
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#374 [12:12] <luxius> Morrolan, it's a wiki page. You're welcome to download the png, rename it and upload it again. Don't see why, but hey ...
#375 [12:12] <oldtopman> luxius: Chill out.
#376 [12:12] <luxius> I am chill =)
#377 [12:13] <Morrolan> If you want to take this further then query me please.
#378 [12:13] <Morrolan> But let's keep this out of this channel.
#379 [12:13] <oldtopman> No, you're not. You flipped out at Morrolan because he laughed at a filename.
#380 [12:13] <luxius> I'm not?
#381 [12:14] <luxius> Tell me more about me, please.
#382 [12:14] <oldtopman> He said to keep it out of chan, so I do not suggest mentioning your point further.
#383 [12:15] <luxius> I'm discussing this with you, oldtopman - how you know about my mood and stuff ^^
#384 [12:15] <luxius> but what ever ...
#385 [12:15] <MK> file names on wikis do not matter
#386 [12:16] <luxius> word
#387 [12:16] <Morrolan> *ahem*, let's leave this topic here, shall we?
#388 [12:16] <oldtopman> You want to know about mod confs?
#389 [12:16] <oldtopman> ??> luxius mods
#390 [12:16] <VoxelHead> luxius: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#391 [12:16] <VoxelHead> luxius: (mods) as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#392 [12:17] <luxius> Thanks
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#409 [13:56] <Priami> Hi, I'm having some serious issues with Minecraft
#410 [13:56] <Priami> It freezes and soon I get error message from display driver
#411 [13:57] <Priami> I can only play about 5 minutes without freeze
#412 [13:58] <sugoi> ??>> Priami win/dxdiag
#413 [13:58] <sugoi> ?? win/dxdiag
#414 [13:58] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#415 [13:58] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#416 [13:58] <sugoi> Priami: and can you paste the error report to pastebin?
#417 [13:59] <sugoi> Priami: has the game worked before? if not, when did this start/ what changed?
#418 [13:59] <Priami> It worked on my old computer which was actually worse than this
#419 [13:59] <sugoi> has it ever worked on this?
#420 [13:59] <Priami> I'm currently using HP Pavilion DV7 laptop
#421 [13:59] <Priami> I have heard of issues with Pavilion and Minecraft before
#422 [14:00] <sugoi> has it worked on this before?
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#424 [14:00] <Priami> Haven't tried
#425 [14:00] <Priami> http://pastebin.com/ffWS2vTi
#426 [14:00] <masan> What can i do if minecraft lags?
#427 [14:00] <Priami> here's Dxdiag stuff
#428 [14:01] <sugoi> masan: update display driver & reduce settings
#429 [14:01] <sugoi> Priami: and the error report?
#430 [14:01] <Priami> done already
#431 [14:01] <masan> how do i update it?
#432 [14:03] <Priami> there's no error report in my Minecraft folder, BTW
#433 [14:03] <Priami> it just freezes
#434 [14:03] <sugoi> ??> masan win/dxdiag
#435 [14:03] <VoxelHead> masan: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#436 [14:03] <VoxelHead> masan: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#437 [14:04] <Priami> and Catalyst tells me that my graphics card stopped responding
#438 [14:04] <sugoi> Priami: hmm, ok
#439 [14:04] <sugoi> Priami: fullscreen or windowed?
#440 [14:04] <Priami> and my desktop looks weird for a while but it returns to normal quite fast
#441 [14:04] <Priami> windowed
#442 [14:04] <sugoi> ok, definitely a card driver crash
#443 [14:04] <Priami> I have no probelms with other games
#444 [14:05] <Priami> just minecraft
#445 [14:05] <Priami> and my temperatures are OK
#446 [14:05] <Priami> peak at 62°C
#447 [14:06] <sugoi> Priami: well i often hear here that mc needs strong opengl support, and even some card drivers don't fully support opengl through the typical windows update (lincensing issue)
#448 [14:06] <sugoi> Priami: but i think that was nvidia, and you have amd
#449 [14:06] <Priami> yeah
#450 [14:06] <sugoi> either way, i'd recommend reinstalling the very latest amd driver directly from their site, and not via update
#451 [14:07] <Priami> I've done my updates from site, not from auto update
#452 [14:08] <sugoi> Priami: also, play with the display settings+check the forums with ppl with your card "AMD Radeon 6600M and 6700M Series"
#453 [14:08] <sugoi> Priami: beyond that, it appears you've done things correctly
#454 [14:08] <sugoi> you could try a force update of mc, but i doubt that'll affect it
#455 [14:08] <Priami> There's one thing I should maybe try
#456 [14:08] <sugoi> masan: i never got a dxdiag from you
#457 [14:08] <sugoi> ??> masan win/dxdiag
#458 [14:08] <VoxelHead> masan: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#459 [14:08] <VoxelHead> masan: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#460 [14:09] <sugoi> ??> masan gpu/update
#461 [14:09] <VoxelHead> masan: (gpu/update) You probably need to update your video drivers. See gpu/amd, gpu/intel, or gpu/nvidia for links to their respective driver download pages.
#462 [14:09] <Priami> I have also an integrated graphics chip in my laptop
#463 [14:09] <Priami> it should only be used when my laptop is on battery
#464 [14:09] <sugoi> masan: w/ dxdiag i can link the right one to you (e.g. nvidia)
#465 [14:09] <masan> thank you
#466 [14:10] <Priami> maybe my laptop tries to use it instead of the better "real" graphics card
#467 [14:10] <sugoi> Priami: that's possible, with nvidia i know how to force gpu over software rendering
#468 [14:11] <sugoi> improved my laptop
#469 [14:12] <Priami> At least Catalyst says that high performane GPU is always used, even if i unplug my laptop
#470 [14:12] <Priami> and the power saving GPU is now never used
#471 [14:13] <Priami> but anyway, thanks for help, im gonna try tweaking my settings and ask from forums if it doesn't help
#472 [14:13] <sugoi> k
#473 [14:13] <sugoi> good luck
#474 [14:13] <Priami> bye
#475 [14:13] <Priami> bye
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#478 [14:14] <sugoi> ;seen wug
#479 [14:14] <sugoi> !sseen sug
#480 [14:14] <sugoi> !seen sug
#481 [14:14] <GreyBot> I last saw sug (Mibbit@67-6-230-195.hlrn.qwest.net) 32wks 4days 23hrs 23mins 37secs ago, being kicked from #minecrafthelp by Kealper, who stated: Do I have to?
#482 [14:15] <sugoi> derp
#483 [14:15] <sugoi> !seen wug
#484 [14:15] <GreyBot> I last saw wug (~Wug@lol.rit.edu) 4days 1hr 49mins 51secs ago, talking in #minecrafthelp. They were saying: use something else
#485 [14:15] <Pepper> lol sug
#486 [14:16] <sugoi> :)
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#498 [15:17] <cpach> hey guys and gals, I have an issue with minecraft loading, It hangs at the login screen (desktop client). I have deleted the .minecraft folder in %appdata% and it still is having this issue.
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#500 [15:20] <sugoi> cpach: do you get an error report file created?
#501 [15:22] <cpach> no
#502 [15:22] <cpach> http://imgur.com/w4AQO
#503 [15:23] <cpach> this is what happens, I even let it run for over an hour to see if anything would happen.
#504 [15:24] <sugoi> cpach: is the app frozen? or just doing nothing?
#505 [15:24] <sugoi> cpach: has it worked before?
#506 [15:25] <cpach> just doing nothing. Yes it has. I recently installed the java development kit and now this happens
#507 [15:26] <sugoi> cpach: what version of java?
#508 [15:27] <cpach> latest, just installed from java.sun.com 1 week ago
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#510 [15:27] <sugoi> yes, which version?
#511 [15:27] <sugoi> i.e. a number
#512 [15:27] <sugoi> like, java 7 update whatever
#513 [15:27] <cpach> 7
#514 [15:28] <sugoi> java 7 is known to be incompatable with minecraft
#515 [15:28] <sugoi> you'll need java 6 (latest is update 31)
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#517 [15:29] <cpach> is there a java 7 client in beta form for minecraft?
#518 [15:29] <sugoi> cpach: java 7 is incompatable with minecraft
#519 [15:29] <sugoi> until mc makes changes to support it
#520 [15:29] <sugoi> which i've heard nothing of
#521 [15:30] <cpach> ok, is it possible to run both on win 7?
#522 [15:30] <cpach> sorry I am a noob to java and learning =D
#523 [15:31] <sugoi> yes, you can run >1 at a time; you could set java 7 as your system default, and then learn how to start minecraft using java 6
#524 [15:31] <sugoi> but
#525 [15:31] <sugoi> do you need java 7?
#526 [15:31] <sugoi> why?
#527 [15:31] <cpach> Computer Brain Interface application development
#528 [15:32] <cpach> using Emotiv SDK to attempt to create interactive applications
#529 [15:32] <sugoi> which REQUIRES 7? or could run on 6 as well?
#530 [15:33] <cpach> requested 7 for updated wrapper
#531 [15:33] <cpach> do you know how to start minecraft with specific java version?
#532 [15:34] <sugoi> cpach: i was googling for a guide (which you could do too) on how to have >1 java version installed
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#534 [15:34] <sugoi> when you install java, you choose the path
#535 [15:34] <sugoi> or, you _can_ choose
#536 [15:34] * sugoi ALWAYS chooses
#536 [15:34] <sugoi> :)
#537 [15:34] <cpach> =D
#538 [15:34] <sugoi> so, /path/you/chose/for/java minecraft-stuff
#539 [15:35] <sugoi> cpach: i'm at work, and dont want to google a lot for an answer :)
#540 [15:35] <sugoi> Boreeas-: wanna help cpach ? he wants java 6 and 7, 7 default, 6 w/ explicit start cmd (and a bat?) for mc
#541 [15:35] <cpach> I totally understand
#542 [15:38] <sugoi> cpach: he might afk - to install multiple versions works anyways
#543 [15:38] <sugoi> in fact, you prolly still have java 6
#544 [15:39] <sugoi> just google for starting mc from the command line
#545 [15:39] <sugoi> and use an absolute path to jave
#546 [15:39] <cpach> just uninstalled 7, letting you know in a moment
#547 [15:39] <sugoi> java*
#548 [15:39] <sugoi> uninstalling?
#549 [15:39] <sugoi> i thought you said you needed 7?
#550 [15:39] <cpach> I can install it on laptop
#551 [15:42] <cpach> nope still hanging =(
#552 [15:42] <cpach> brb in about an hour, got to get kids =D
#553 [15:46] * |Kiikun| WANTS HIS RAM TO ARRIVE!! ;_;
#553 [15:46] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: the delivery truck ran out of room, and is having to use swap
#554 [15:46] <sugoi> ergo, delayed
#555 [15:47] <|Kiikun|> nope :P while it WAS UPS shipped.. it was their 'we handed it to the post office in your town' end-delivery...
#556 [15:47] <|Kiikun|> and my mail doesnt come til after 5pm :/
#557 [15:47] <sugoi> utc+?
#558 [15:48] <|Kiikun|> +7-3+1-10
#559 [15:48] <sugoi> rude
#560 [15:48] <|Kiikun|> :P
#561 [15:48] * sugoi ....
#561 [15:48] <sugoi> -5
#562 [15:48] <sugoi> bam!
#563 [15:49] <|Kiikun|> yes
#564 [15:49] <sugoi> that's not bad
#565 [15:49] <|Kiikun|> hmm.... and youre west coast :P
#566 [15:50] <sugoi> aye
#567 [15:50] <|Kiikun|> ctcp time is your friend
#568 [15:51] <sugoi> silly kiikun, trusting i log in from where i am
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#570 [15:52] <|Kiikun|> im trusting youd atleast have your bnc time set to be your local time :P
#571 [15:52] <sugoi> sometimes i switch things up
#572 [15:52] <|Kiikun|> and make yourself chinese?
#573 [15:52] <sugoi> japanese :)
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#578 [16:16] <mib_yarvji> so im trying to play this star wars rise of the rebellion map: i have it downloaded and i have done what the instructions say to do, move texture pack to texture pack and rest of folder into saves, the texture pack works but it wont load the map
#579 [16:17] <mib_yarvji> do i have to unzip something? any help would be great
#580 [16:17] <sugoi> mib_yarvji: unfortunately, no one here made that map
#581 [16:17] <sugoi> :)
#582 [16:17] <DiskDaemon> mib_yarvji: sounds interesting, where did you get it from?
#583 [16:18] <mib_yarvji> saw it on yagscast
#584 [16:18] <mib_yarvji> yogscast*
#585 [16:18] <mib_yarvji> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/820712-epic-adv-winner-of-minecraftnetcursecom-star-wars-content-contest-rise-of-the-rebellion-rated-1920-by-rsmalec-10838-downloads/
#586 [16:19] <sugoi> mib_yarvji: can you give more detail about the error?
#587 [16:19] <mib_yarvji> its not realy an error, i downloaded the file. followed instructions on where to put things. it then says 3) Drag the .zip file called mine into the 'texturepacks' folder. 4) Drag and drop the 'Rise of the Rebellion' folder into your 'saves' folder. 5) Run Minecraft, enjoy!
#588 [16:20] <sugoi> and?
#589 [16:20] <mib_yarvji> but when i run it doesnt make the map (the adventure map) but the texture works... so im wondering if i need to do something for the map to register instead of the generate map option
#590 [16:21] <sugoi> nope, if a map is already there, mc doesn't make a new one
#591 [16:21] <sugoi> so the question is, what/where is 'there'
#592 [16:21] <sugoi> you can specify the world folder in the server.properties
#593 [16:21] <mib_yarvji> step 5 says run minecraft, enjoy. so i start minecraft, click single player, and it has my 2 saved maps, but no adventure map
#594 [16:21] <sugoi> but review the instructions from their site, and see that you put your copy in the right place
#595 [16:22] <DiskDaemon> SO if it's not being seen as a saved map, that implies that something didn't go right when unpacking the folder to the saves folder
#596 [16:23] <sugoi> in other words, sounds like you have the world folder in the wrong place/wrong name
#597 [16:23] <sugoi> note, world folders are not zips
#598 [16:25] <mib_yarvji> i have the folder saved in "saves" as instructed. it didnt say to unzip the "Rise of the rebellion" folder in the "saves" folder, i just tried unzipping there and it still didnt work... i guarentee this is user error, lol
#599 [16:25] <DiskDaemon> I have just download and installed - works for me
#600 [16:26] <mib_yarvji> and it loaded the proper map?
#601 [16:26] <DiskDaemon> yep
#602 [16:27] <mib_yarvji> u just started minecraft, and clicked single player, and it was there to click?
#603 [16:27] <DiskDaemon> That's right, I end up in a room full of signs. So many signs!
#604 [16:27] <mib_yarvji> hmmmmm
#605 [16:28] <mib_yarvji> cuss i have the "mine" zip folder in "texture pack" folder, and the "rise of the rebellion 10.9" in the saves folder, but nothing happens from there
#606 [16:28] <DiskDaemon> I know that "works for me" isn't all that useful, but it's confirmation that things can be and are successful.
#607 [16:29] <DiskDaemon> okay, stop there - "10.9" ?? Why is that a part of the saves folder name?
#608 [16:29] <mib_yarvji> just the version i think
#609 [16:29] <mib_yarvji> ah, wait, i see what you mean
#610 [16:29] <DiskDaemon> No, that's adirect confirmation that you've done something wrong, so investigations need to proceed from there
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#612 [16:31] <DiskDaemon> Inside of that that "... 10.9" folder, what do you see?
#613 [16:31] <mib_yarvji> DiskDaemon: That was the problem, i had moved the wrong rise of rebellion folder, i had moved everything instead of just the single folder
#614 [16:31] <DiskDaemon> good one
#615 [16:31] <mib_yarvji> Thank you for helping me realize my mistake, herpa derp
#616 [16:31] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#627 [18:14] <Liru> I keep on getting disconnections from my server in the newest Minecraft version with varying reasons... "socket write error", "connection reset" among other things... it started with 1.2.3. Is there a known fix?
#628 [18:19] <Liru> I keep on getting disconnections from my server in the newest Minecraft version with varying reasons... "socket write error", "connection reset" among other things... it started with 1.2.3. Is there a known fix?
#629 [18:19] <sugoi> Liru: ?
#630 [18:20] <sugoi> Liru: why did you just repeate the same thing but ignored my two questions?
#631 [18:20] <Liru> sugoi: I didn't see your two questions
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#633 [18:20] <sugoi> Liru: what version is the server and what version is the client?
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#635 [18:20] <sugoi> Liru: did you update java on either end?
#636 [18:21] <Liru> 1.2.3 clientside, Craftbukkit 1.2.3 on the server
#637 [18:21] <Liru> Java is updated on my end
#638 [18:21] <Liru> Friend can connect without problems
#639 [18:21] <sugoi> Liru: what version of java
#640 [18:22] <Liru> sugoi: Java 6 u31
#641 [18:22] <Liru> 64 bit
#642 [18:23] <sugoi> does mc create an error report?
#643 [18:23] <Liru> Client/serverside?
#644 [18:23] <sugoi> client
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#646 [18:24] <Liru> Yeah
#647 [18:24] <Liru> Well, there's a message that shows up when it disconnects me
#648 [18:25] <sugoi> sometimes mc will create an error log
#649 [18:25] <sugoi> it would be located 'next' to the launcher
#650 [18:25] <sugoi> i.e. in the same dir
#651 [18:26] <Liru> Let me see
#652 [18:26] <Liru> Not sure if this one is the most recent
#653 [18:26] <sugoi> rm it
#654 [18:27] <sugoi> then connect it
#655 [18:27] <sugoi> then connect again*
#656 [18:27] <sugoi> rm == remove, == delete
#657 [18:27] <Liru> ooh
#658 [18:27] <Liru> lack of response
#659 [18:27] <Liru> possibly incoming new log
#660 [18:27] <sugoi> k
#661 [18:27] <Liru> Hrm
#662 [18:27] <Liru> Doesn't cause an error log
#663 [18:28] <sugoi> it is valuable to rule out mods
#664 [18:28] <Liru> None installed
#665 [18:28] <sugoi> are you running any?
#666 [18:28] <Liru> Valinna bukkit
#667 [18:28] <Liru> Vanilla client
#668 [18:28] <Liru> ...
#669 [18:28] <sugoi> vanilla bukkit? :)
#670 [18:28] <Liru> vanilla bukkit
#671 [18:28] <Liru> Craftbukkit
#672 [18:28] * sugoi chckles
#672 [18:29] * sugoi and chuckles* even
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#673 [18:29] <sugoi> Liru: vanilla in our context means no mods
#674 [18:29] <sugoi> bukkit is orthogonal to 'vanilla'
#675 [18:29] <Liru> Vanilla server causes it as well
#676 [18:29] <sugoi> Liru: you didn't even patch your client for textures?
#677 [18:29] <Liru> Nope
#678 [18:30] <sugoi> have you tried running your own server in your LAN, and connecting?
#679 [18:30] <sugoi> you could even run a server on localhost and try to connect
#680 [18:31] <Liru> I can connect to the server
#681 [18:31] <sugoi> to your own?
#682 [18:31] <Liru> It's just that it kicks me off after an unspecified amount of time
#683 [18:31] <Liru> Gonna try my own
#684 [18:31] <Liru> hold on
#685 [18:31] <sugoi> ok
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#687 [18:37] <Liru> Nope, no disconnect errors
#688 [18:38] <sugoi> localhost or in-lan?
#689 [18:38] <Liru> localhost
#690 [18:38] <Liru> Don't have a separate computer for in-lan atm
#691 [18:38] <Liru> all my roommates are gone
#692 [18:38] <sugoi> that's the best time
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#694 [18:39] <sugoi> but anyways, it shouldn't matter
#695 [18:39] <Cwitchy10> Can someone help me with ore generation?
#696 [18:39] <sugoi> localhost is a good test
#697 [18:39] <sugoi> Cwitchy10: ?
#698 [18:40] <Cwitchy10> I can't generate more than one ore
#699 [18:40] <sugoi> Cwitchy10: can you give a lot more detail/
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#701 [18:41] <Cwitchy10> Ok
#702 [18:41] <Cwitchy10> First, how do I PM you?
#703 [18:41] <sugoi> ./query sizeof(|Kiikun|::ram)
#704 [18:41] <sugoi> Cwitchy10: unless you are sharing confidential information, like a username+password for team viewer; don't
#705 [18:42] <sugoi> Cwitchy10: use this channel
#706 [18:42] <sugoi> ?? dont/flood
#707 [18:42] <VoxelHead> dont/flood: Please do not paste large globs of text into the IRC channel. This is called 'flooding' and is considered _very_ rude.
#708 [18:42] <|Kiikun|> /reply 8GB
#709 [18:42] <VoxelHead> dont/flood: If you have an error log or other information to share that is more then one or two lines, use pastebin.com. see pastebin for more information.
#710 [18:42] <Cwitchy10> no I mean
#711 [18:42] <Cwitchy10> your name is in red
#712 [18:42] <Cwitchy10> I thought that means your PMing me]
#713 [18:42] <sugoi> Cwitchy10: i'm guessing that is either because i'm using your name at the start of the line: e.g.
#714 [18:42] <sugoi> Cwitchy10: like this
#715 [18:43] <Cwitchy10> sugoi like this?
#716 [18:43] <Cwitchy10> ...
#717 [18:43] <sugoi> or because i'm 'voiced', as shown by the '+' in front of my name
#718 [18:43] <sugoi> Cwitchy10: aye
#719 [18:43] <sugoi> Cwitchy10: 'private messages' are different
#720 [18:43] <Cwitchy10> sugoi so I just put your name at the beginning each time?
#721 [18:44] <sugoi> Cwitchy10: it is not necessary, everyone in the channel can see that last line
#722 [18:44] <sugoi> which is good
#723 [18:44] <Cwitchy10> ok
#724 [18:44] <Cwitchy10> So I use the ore generation code
#725 [18:44] <sugoi> Cwitchy10: using a name in the line help notify me that youare talking to me
#726 [18:44] <Cwitchy10> Ok
#727 [18:44] <sugoi> Cwitchy10: are you talking about using an API with bukkit, or a mod?
#728 [18:44] <Cwitchy10> A mod
#729 [18:44] <Cwitchy10> With ModLoader
#730 [18:44] <|Kiikun|> helps when theres a half dozen people going 'HELP ME NAAOOO!!!!!!!'
#731 [18:44] <sugoi> ?? mod
#732 [18:45] <|Kiikun|> ?? mods
#733 [18:45] * |Kiikun| stabs vox!
#733 [18:45] <sugoi> ??> Cwitchy10 mods
#734 [18:45] <Cwitchy10> ?
#735 [18:45] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: netsplit earlier .. maybe
#736 [18:45] <Cwitchy10> A gem mod
#737 [18:45] <|Kiikun|> possibly
#738 [18:45] <Cwitchy10> That has 13 different gems
#739 [18:45] <Cwitchy10> but only one generates
#740 [18:45] <|Kiikun|> Cwitchy10: we dont assist with mods.
#741 [18:46] <|Kiikun|> contact the author of the mod if youre having trouble with using it
#742 [18:46] <Cwitchy10> What is the channel for mod help?
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#744 [18:46] <Cwitchy10> No I'm making a mod
#745 [18:46] <|Kiikun|> oh your makign it? try #mcp
#746 [18:46] <Cwitchy10> Ok
#747 [18:46] <Cwitchy10> Thanks
#748 [18:46] <sugoi> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#749 [18:46] <sugoi> mods: as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#750 [18:46] <sugoi> vanilla: vanilla (adj.): Bland; original; with no garnish. In the context of Minecraft, a server or client with no mods, skins, texture packs, or other customizations.
#751 [18:47] * sugoi meh, close enough
#751 [18:47] <sugoi> Cwitchy10: yeah, to get help with an API, like bukkit, #bukkit is better
#752 [18:47] <Cwitchy10> No bukkit
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#754 [18:47] <Cwitchy10> just a minecraft mod with Modloader
#755 [18:48] <sugoi> oh you're configuring meta data for a new ore for a mod that reads in custom ore?
#756 [18:48] <Cwitchy10> O_o
#757 [18:49] <Cwitchy10> i don't know...
#758 [18:49] <sugoi> Cwitchy10: are you programming in java?
#759 [18:49] <Cwitchy10> Yes
#760 [18:49] <sugoi> so what api are you using?
#761 [18:49] * Eddie spits out his drink
#761 [18:49] <Cwitchy10> none...
#762 [18:49] <Cwitchy10> Just Modloader
#763 [18:49] <sugoi> the vanilla client won't load mods
#764 [18:49] <|Kiikun|> you COULD try #risucraft. modloader is something of risugami's
#765 [18:50] <sugoi> so modloader is injecting some hack to load your mod, and thus giving an api
#766 [18:50] * sugoi considers reading what modloader does fully
#766 [18:50] <Cwitchy10> ...
#767 [18:50] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: basicly what you said.
#768 [18:50] <Cwitchy10> I only needed help with the generating code
#769 [18:50] <Cwitchy10> I already have one that works
#770 [18:50] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: i know, i'm being somewhat rhetorical
#771 [18:50] <Cwitchy10> Its just the other 12 won't work
#772 [18:50] <|Kiikun|> Cwitchy10: then one of those two places can help.
#773 [18:51] <|Kiikun|> we only support the vanilla game.
#774 [18:51] <sugoi> Cwitchy10: also, read up on what an API is, and realzie you're using one
#775 [18:51] <sugoi> it'll help you in the future
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#777 [18:51] <Cwitchy10> Ok, thanks guys.
#778 [18:53] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: so 8GB huh, nice
#779 [18:53] <|Kiikun|> yup. doubled.
#780 [18:53] <sugoi> what are you going to use it for?
#781 [18:53] <sugoi> i noticed your msg after you quit
#782 [18:53] <|Kiikun|> THAT is a GOOD QUESTION! :P
#783 [18:53] <sugoi> only had to wait 1hr12min after 5 :)
#784 [18:53] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: does it run a mc server?
#785 [18:53] <|Kiikun|> nope. :P
#786 [18:53] <tej> hi guys. i'm having a problem with my minecraft when i try to join MP servers. Error message: "internal exception java.net.socketexception connection reset " keeps on popping up. I've tried to reinstall Java but still doesn't work. Any clue of what to do? Seems to be a common problem but there's not decent explenation out there on google. :/
#787 [18:53] <sugoi> do you code?
#788 [18:53] <|Kiikun|> my uopload is .5M at best
#789 [18:53] <tej> explanation*
#790 [18:54] <sugoi> tej: what java version?
#791 [18:54] <tej> 1.6 / 1.7
#792 [18:54] <sugoi> well which? :)
#793 [18:54] <|Kiikun|> tej: dont use java 7. that sounds liek a 7 error
#794 [18:54] <sugoi> tej: yeah, you need to run mc on java 6
#795 [18:54] <tej> well, on my desktop i use 1.6 and on my laptop i use 1.7 it's the same on them both.
#796 [18:54] <|Kiikun|> tej: what server?
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#798 [18:55] <sugoi> tej: good to know, but first get your laptop using 1.6, as you'll have to anyways
#799 [18:55] <sugoi> tej: what |Kiikun| means is, what version of minecraft is the server and what version of minecraft is your client/
#800 [18:55] <sugoi> bc they need to match
#801 [18:55] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: 7 works for some people... so i dont force it unless they have connection issues
#802 [18:55] <tej> i know
#803 [18:55] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: fair
#804 [18:55] <|Kiikun|> what i mean.. is whats the server ip :P
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#806 [18:55] <tej> i do have the same version of the game as of the server.
#807 [18:56] <|Kiikun|> it might be down
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#809 [18:56] <tej> w2.raidcraft.net
#810 [18:56] <|Kiikun|> !check w2.raidcraft.net
#811 [18:56] <tej> It's been like these for a week now
#812 [18:56] <|Kiikun|> boom.
#813 [18:56] <sugoi> haah
#814 [18:56] <Liru> Hrm
#815 [18:56] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: not fair, when is THAT ever the problme
#816 [18:56] <sugoi> problem*
#817 [18:56] <Liru> !check minecraft.sleepymaid.com
#818 [18:56] <Liru> Cool bot
#819 [18:57] <tej> been like this**
#820 [18:57] <|Kiikun|> Liru: why am i getting 'magical pokan' vibes from your nickname? :P
#821 [18:57] <Liru> |Kiikun|: Because that's where I got the nick from? :p
#822 [18:57] <|Kiikun|> tej: the server is probably down
#823 [18:57] <sugoi> ??
#824 [18:57] <tej> can't be. It's been online all week (watched streamers) ;p
#825 [18:57] <sugoi> tej: would you like me to hack into that server and get it working again?
#826 [18:57] <tej> and i've tried to connect during the whole week.
#827 [18:58] <|Kiikun|> ;check w2.raidcraft.net
#828 [18:58] <WugBot> w2.raidcraft.net:25565 is accepting connections.
#829 [18:58] <sugoi> dun dun dunnnn
#830 [18:58] <sugoi> you're welcome
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#832 [18:58] <tej> trolol.
#833 [18:58] <|Kiikun|> !check w2.raidcraft.net
#834 [18:58] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: version dif in the bots?
#835 [18:58] <sugoi> !check w2.raidcraft.net
#836 [18:58] <|Kiikun|> port open, something listening... but neither aubot or my game se it as a server, and
#837 [18:58] <sugoi> ;check w2.raidcraft.net
#838 [18:58] <WugBot> w2.raidcraft.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Hardcore PvP - RaidCraft.net! (0/200)
#839 [18:59] <tej> it's the same on w1.raidcraft.net
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#841 [18:59] <sugoi> ;check w1.raidcraft.net
#842 [18:59] <WugBot> w1.raidcraft.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Hardcore PvP - RaidCraft.net! (71/225)
#843 [18:59] <sugoi> !check w1.raidcraft.net
#844 [19:01] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: i still don't like that |Kiikun|Janus| is first in tab order
#845 [19:01] <sugoi> you should fix that
#846 [19:01] <|Kiikun|> i have no controll over your clients derpery :P
#847 [19:01] <tej> I've tried to disable my firewall but that doesn't help either FYI.
#848 [19:01] <Sennyotai> sugoi: better? :P
#849 [19:01] <Sennyotai> tej: its a problem with the internet or the server itself
#850 [19:02] <Sennyotai> i blame the server because i cant log in either
#851 [19:02] <tej> Would probably be my internet then as i just moved ,p
#852 [19:02] <tej> it's the same on EVERY single server i try to connect to.
#853 [19:02] <Sennyotai> i blame them :P
#854 [19:02] <sugoi> Sennyotai: heh, totally
#855 [19:02] <Sennyotai> tej: even mc.minecraftirc.net ?
#856 [19:03] <sugoi> ;check mc.minecraftirc.net
#857 [19:03] <WugBot> mc.minecraftirc.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: The Official Minecraft IRC Server (0/50)
#858 [19:03] <sugoi> 0?
#859 [19:03] <sugoi> sad
#860 [19:03] <Sennyotai> sugoi: ;check is wugbot, !check is aubot.
#861 [19:03] <sugoi> i know, but one worked and the other failed
#862 [19:03] * Sennyotai prefers aubot when its not being derpy
#862 [19:03] <sugoi> so i was wondering if they use different protocols
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#864 [19:03] <sugoi> Sennyotai: haha
#865 [19:03] <tej> actually
#866 [19:03] <tej> that one is working
#867 [19:04] <tej> first one that's not giving me that bloody error message >.<
#868 [19:04] <sugoi> but i like ; commands, and ; is right on my pinky
#869 [19:04] <Sennyotai> tej: its probably the servers youre tryign to connect to. contact the admins and see if they have any ideas why you cant connect?
#870 [19:04] <sugoi> and ! is all the way up in the corner
#871 [19:04] <tej> will do
#872 [19:04] <tej> Cheers for quick respons.
#873 [19:05] <sugoi> yay
#874 [19:05] <tej> e*
#875 [19:05] <Sennyotai> and i reboot again for software updates!
#876 [19:05] <sugoi> cheers for Sennyotai taking my points
#877 [19:05] <sugoi> Sennyotai: on ram?
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#883 [19:09] <|Kiichan|> sugoi: yes. software update for my ram. it makes it run faster
#884 [19:09] <sugoi> |Kiichan|: so more ram
#885 [19:10] <sugoi> you code?
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#887 [19:10] <|Kiichan|> yes i do. java and action script are my l;atest languages
#888 [19:10] <sugoi> or do you just run mindlessly in a straight line in minecraft until your ram croaks
#889 [19:10] <|Kiichan|> know mirc script like a lover. and familiar with C and VB
#890 [19:11] <sugoi> odd, neat, wut; respectively
#891 [19:11] <|Kiichan|> wut to C and VB? really?
#892 [19:12] <sugoi> mirc: odd, c: neat
#893 [19:12] <sugoi> i just don't miss a chance to mock vb
#894 [19:13] <|Kiichan|> ah. ok
#895 [19:13] * |Kiichan| actually started programign in basic.
#895 [19:13] <Raistlinnn> I like vb for small things that need done fast, I also started with it.
#896 [19:13] <Cwitchy10> sugoi, risucraft is full of people who think they're better than everyone else.
#897 [19:14] <sugoi> <flamewar /> <rant /> <etc />
#898 [19:14] <sugoi> Cwitchy10: i get so tired of people thinking they're better than me
#899 [19:14] <Cwitchy10> Was that sarcasm
#900 [19:14] <Cwitchy10> Was that sarcasm?
#901 [19:15] <|Kiichan|> Cwitchy10: thats not news, actually
#902 [19:15] * sugoi is the best, no one is better!
#902 [19:15] <|Kiichan|> its why i sugest mcp first
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#904 [19:15] <Cwitchy10> Ok thanks you guys. :)
#905 [19:16] <|Kiichan|> sugoi: and really.. it was for DTLite
#906 [19:17] <|Kiichan|> .... ipod prevents computer booting.... and ipod itself crashes...
#907 [19:17] * |Kiichan| cheers....
#907 [19:17] <sugoi> how does your ipod prevent computer booting? when it's plugged in?
#908 [19:18] <|Kiichan|> yup.
#909 [19:18] <|Kiichan|> it causes the post to derplock
#910 [19:19] <sugoi> that's the affect apple has on everyone i know
#911 [19:19] <|Kiichan|> yes. ive managed to avoid apple products except this ipod...
#912 [19:19] <|Kiichan|> because zune sucks balls
#913 [19:20] <|Kiichan|> and nothign else is worth note
#914 [19:21] <sugoi> i can't dispute that
#915 [19:22] <|Kiichan|> exactly :P
#916 [19:22] <Cwitchy10> BTW My mod works now
#917 [19:22] <|Kiichan|> and its only because i won 400 buck on a scratcher :P
#918 [19:22] <Cwitchy10> But apparently its 'stupid'
#919 [19:22] <sugoi> |Kiichan|: seriously - 400th ticket?
#920 [19:23] <|Kiichan|> $400
#921 [19:23] <sugoi> |Kiichan|: i.e. how many scratch ticket did you buy
#922 [19:23] <|Kiichan|> it was a $2 ticket.. i think i got 2 that time.
#923 [19:23] * |Kiichan| opens shadowgrounds!
#923 [19:24] <sugoi> |Kiichan|: what i mean is -- how long had you been playing
#924 [19:25] <oldtopman> I won over $100 with my gambling habit :D
#925 [19:25] <oldtopman> (this year)
#926 [19:25] <oldtopman> net total.
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#931 [19:48] * |Kiichan| never realized LEDs died like a firefly
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#932 [19:53] <sugoi> firefly's use luciferin, which is part of a chemical reaction that emits light, leds emit light as charge is moved, not when chemical bonds are changed
#933 [19:54] <sugoi> or have i been misinformed?
#934 [19:54] <sugoi> and fireflys are not cyborgs with little led lights on their back
#935 [19:54] <sugoi> are now*
#936 [19:55] <|Kiichan|> i meabn my numlock is dying... it flickers back to life for a few seconds then goes out again... liek a firefly :P
#937 [19:55] <sugoi> oh, that
#938 [19:55] <sugoi> yeah, it's a firefly
#939 [19:55] <sugoi> haah
#940 [19:56] <sugoi> but you got me to look up the name of the chemical fireflies use :)
#941 [19:56] <|Kiichan|> this game looks sillyfun http://store.steampowered.com/app/115110/
#942 [19:57] * |Kiichan| closes steam before he's too tempted to buy something!! ;_;
#942 [19:57] * oldtopman was just looking at this: http://www.desura.com/games/on-the-shoulders-of-ancestors
#942 [19:57] <oldtopman> Looks similar.
#943 [19:57] <sugoi> oh doublefine
#944 [19:57] <sugoi> up to your ol' shinnangins
#945 [19:57] <|Kiichan|> yes. doublefine :D
#946 [19:58] <sugoi> s/typo//
#947 [19:59] <|Kiichan|> oldtopman: nah... not exactly... it was givigm me more of a Messiah mechanics vibe.
#948 [19:59] <|Kiichan|> if you ever played it :P
#949 [19:59] <oldtopman> (nope)
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#953 [20:10] <cpach> Hey Sugoi, Thank you for your help earlier
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#955 [20:11] <cpach> removing JDK 7 and installing JDK 6 while also restarting helped fix my issue.
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#959 [20:40] <|Kiichan|> o.o Blade Kitten is FUN... and cute.. :P
#960 [20:41] <|Kiichan|> Wall? no thats a vertical floor that people cant chase you on.
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#967 [22:36] <Monkeys> Sup!
#968 [22:36] <Monkeys> How do you update a vanilla TF2 Minecraft_Server?
#969 [22:36] <Monkeys> Just download the new exe?
#970 [22:37] <lemon-rev> downloading the new exe will update your server file to what ever it should be
#971 [22:37] <Monkeys> Thank you dear.
#972 [22:37] <Pepper> More deear
#973 [22:37] <Pepper> More dears* :3
#974 [22:38] <Monkeys> What was in the latest Minecraft update? I updated like two days ago.
#975 [22:38] <Monkeys> And now it made me update again.
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#977 [22:50] <lemon-rev> hm,
#978 [22:50] <lemon-rev> should b e at 1.2.3 vers
#979 [22:50] <Monkeys> Thanks.
#980 [22:51] <Monkeys> I just found this big guy in my mine. http://snag.gy/upi83.jpg
#981 [22:51] <Monkeys> Any good other than killing it for gel?
#982 [22:51] <lemon-rev> lol yea pisonts
#983 [22:52] <lemon-rev> pistons that allow you to grab and pull blocks
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#985 [23:01] <Monkeys> Alright. :)
#986 [23:01] <Monkeys> What are the consequences of eating zombie bacon?
#987 [23:02] <lemon-rev> you can get poisend
#988 [23:02] <lemon-rev> look at the minecraft wiki,
#989 [23:02] <Monkeys> Sorry.
#990 [23:02] <lemon-rev> its youll find more info there
#991 [23:02] <lemon-rev> thats all
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#993 [23:03] <Monkeys> Alright, thanks. :)
#994 [23:03] <Monkeys> I can walk on wheat crops now without them getting destroyed right?
#995 [23:04] <lemon-rev> i belive thats correct
#996 [23:04] <lemon-rev> i know mobs can
#997 [23:04] <Monkeys> Mobs can tramble them?
#998 [23:04] <Monkeys> Can mobs jump above fences?
#999 [23:04] <lemon-rev> no mobs can walk on them with out crops getting damaged
#1000 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Mobs shouldn't be able to jump over fences
#1001 [23:04] <lemon-rev> well theres still bugs,
#1002 [23:05] <Monkeys> Wait, I'm confused.
#1003 [23:05] <Monkeys> If I walk over crops, will they get destroyed?
#1004 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure mobs can walk on crops without damaging them? They didn't before?
#1005 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Back then, walking over crops yourself will destroy them. You could sneak over them without harm
#1006 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Don't know if that's been changed since 1.1-1.2
#1007 [23:06] <Monkeys> What about now? Can I walk on my own crops with no danger?
#1008 [23:06] <lemon-rev> GreyVulpine yes im sure
#1009 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> No idea, haven't checked
#1010 [23:06] <lemon-rev> monkeys thats correct
#1011 [23:06] <lemon-rev> np
#1012 [23:07] <Brogar> I just tried to buy minecraft but I am getting the "transaction failed" message then it leads me to the "succesful payment page" havn't gotten a receipt or an email. How can I know if it went through at all?
#1013 [23:07] <Brogar> I have mastercard and tried 3 times
#1014 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Trust the first page. The second will always give a successful message even after a failed one
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#1016 [23:07] <PiercingGoblin> Are questions related to mods allowed here?
#1017 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> If you got a failed/error message immediately after purchasing, your purchase did not go through
#1018 [23:08] <Brogar> so should I keep trying?
#1019 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> Brogar - Yes. Perhaps try a different payment solution provider. I usually recommend paypal over moneybookers, as they seem to be more reliable
#1020 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> PiercingGoblin - As there's hundreds, if not thousands of mods out there, each produced by a modder from the community, it's basically impossibile to provide support for every mod out there.
#1021 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> PiercingGoblin - You can try and ask, but don't expect an answer.
#1022 [23:10] <PiercingGoblin> Does anyone know anything about Mumfreys Macro / Keybind mod? I got a question on it if anyone might know the answer.
#1023 [23:11] <Brogar> my card is going through my bank, its debit backed by mastercrad
#1024 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Can't say I know anything about Mumfreys Macro / Keybind. Try asking in the forum thread at: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/467504-123-macro-keybind-mod-v085-fully-updated-to-123/
#1025 [23:12] <clarjon1> PiercingGoblin: never heard of it.
#1026 [23:12] <lemon-rev> brogar ring mastercard and tell them what your trying to do and see if they might be blocking it by any chance
#1027 [23:12] <PiercingGoblin> clarjon1: Understandable lol. Just thought I'd give it a shot.
#1028 [23:12] <Brogar> ok thanks for the help
#1029 [23:15] <Monkeys> Will creepers blow me up if I'm too close to my house's door and they're on the other side?
#1030 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> No. Creepers will only start their timer if they have a direct line of sight to you
#1031 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> Doors are considered opaque in this instance
#1032 [23:18] <Monkeys> Are there different types of arrows?
#1033 [23:18] <lemon-rev> monkeys what ?
#1034 [23:19] <Monkeys> Different types of arrows.
#1035 [23:19] <Monkeys> Fire arrows or something like that.
#1036 [23:19] <Monkeys> Some way to make bows stronger.
#1037 [23:20] <Monkeys> Since there's stone/iron/diamond swords, I was wondering if there was a better alternative to the usual bow.
#1038 [23:20] <lemon-rev> monkeys you can now enchart things
#1039 [23:20] <Monkeys> Enchart?
#1040 [23:20] <lemon-rev> encharnt things with an encharnt box
#1041 [23:20] <lemon-rev> cant say it correctly
#1042 [23:20] <Monkeys> Enchant?
#1043 [23:20] <Monkeys> Really?
#1044 [23:20] <Monkeys> As in magically make them different?
#1045 [23:21] <lemon-rev> correct
#1046 [23:21] <Monkeys> Wow, that's nuts.
#1047 [23:21] <Monkeys> Since when?
#1048 [23:21] <lemon-rev> a while back, anyways look at wiki it will tell you everythign you need to know
#1049 [23:21] <Monkeys> Sweet, thanks. :)
#1050 [23:22] <Monkeys> I can confirm that you can not walk on crops.
#1051 [23:22] <Monkeys> They'll get destroyed.
#1052 [23:22] <lemon-rev> hm, are you running vers 1.2.3 ?
#1053 [23:22] <Monkeys> Latest one.
#1054 [23:23] <lemon-rev> k
#1055 [23:27] <Monkeys> On Pumpkins: When worn as a helmet, the player may look directly at Endermen without consequences, making it useful for going outside at night.
#1056 [23:27] <Monkeys> :) clever.
#1057 [23:31] <Brogar> you cant enchant arrows, but you can enchant the bow. Dont get to eager tho, fire arrows is a pretty high level enchant
#1058 [23:32] <Brogar> too*
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#1060 [23:32] <Brogar> *note* if they mob dies from fire damage you dont get xp
#1061 [23:32] <Brogar> which is sad because my main weapon is flint and tinder :/
#1062 [23:33] <Brogar> are they chat admins on here or is it just anyone who joins?
#1063 [23:33] <Brogar> that answers questions*
#1064 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1065 [23:34] <Brogar> ah, kk OP's
#1066 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> Anybody's welcome to answer questions around here.
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#1068 [23:35] <nipper> Anyone know of a client mod that can highlight players names even if there blocked?
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#1073 [23:46] <oldtopman> ??> nipper mods
#1074 [23:46] <VoxelHead> nipper: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#1075 [23:46] <VoxelHead> nipper: (mods) as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1076 [23:46] <nipper> Not looking for support.
#1077 [23:46] <nipper> Just looking for a mod name with name highlighter.
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#1079 [23:56] <oldtopman> nipper: this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content
#1080 [23:58] <nipper> Not asking for assist just looking for a name.