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#2 [00:28] <satinfish407> ty everyone for your patience and help
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#4 [00:35] <JDigital> how I enable http API on Computercraft in multiplayer
#5 [00:35] <sugoi> JDigital: sorry, this is an irc channel for minecraft vanilla support
#6 [00:35] <sugoi> secondly, i dont know, i'd have to google it :)
#7 [00:36] * sugoi recommends google
#7 [00:36] <sugoi> it is possible someone here knows - you are welcome to hang around to see if anyone responds
#8 [00:39] <Pashka2> btw I find howto run client without launcher: java -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -cp "%APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\*"; -Djava.library.path="%APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\natives" net.minecraft.client.Minecraft "username"
#9 [00:41] <Pashka2> so class net.minecraft.LauncherFrame is depricated I guess
#10 [00:41] <sugoi> Pashka2: no it isn't, it's in the launcher, not the minecraft jars in bin
#11 [00:42] <Pashka2> ah. ok :)
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#27 [03:10] <Cenvix> HELP PLEASE
#28 [03:10] <Cenvix> anyone?
#29 [03:10] <sugoi> Cenvix: sup?
#30 [03:11] <Cenvix> Um
#31 [03:11] <Cenvix> I was playing
#32 [03:12] <Cenvix> and I got water into a buvket
#33 [03:12] <Cenvix> *bucket
#34 [03:12] <Cenvix> then suddently
#35 [03:12] <Cenvix> *suddenly
#36 [03:12] <Cenvix> it said
#37 [03:12] <Cenvix> saving chunks
#38 [03:12] <Cenvix> and crashed
#39 [03:12] <Cenvix> i tried it again
#40 [03:12] <Cenvix> and same result
#41 [03:12] <sugoi> any mods?
#42 [03:12] <Cenvix> too many items
#43 [03:13] <sugoi> Cenvix: also, try using commas, and not so many newlines :)
#44 [03:13] <Cenvix> thats it
#45 [03:13] <Cenvix> kk XD
#46 [03:13] <sugoi> try moving the mods out -
#47 [03:13] <Cenvix> ok
#48 [03:14] <sugoi> note that this channel targets vanilla clients and servers, if you have bugs with a mod, best to contact the mod dev team
#49 [03:14] <Cenvix> ok
#50 [03:14] <Cenvix> I just forced updated it
#51 [03:18] <Cenvix> THANKS NAB
#52 [03:18] <Cenvix> *MAN XD
#53 [03:18] <sugoi> :)
#54 [03:18] <Cenvix> it works perfectly now
#55 [03:20] <Cenvix> once again thanks :D and bye :D
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#58 [03:24] <Cenvix> Help
#59 [03:25] <Cenvix> it still crashes
#60 [03:25] <sugoi> Cenvix: welcome back :)
#61 [03:25] <Cenvix> XD
#62 [03:25] <sugoi> Cenvix: what mod is crashing it?
#63 [03:25] <Cenvix> inone
#64 [03:25] <Cenvix> I have no mods installed right now
#65 [03:26] <sugoi> to be sure, backup your .minecraft folder, then:
#66 [03:26] <sugoi> ?? win/reinst
#67 [03:26] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#68 [03:26] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#69 [03:26] <sugoi> then run the laucnher, and update, and run
#70 [03:26] <Cenvix> ok i'll try
#71 [03:36] <Cenvix> it works fine now
#72 [03:36] <Cenvix> but what if it does it again?
#73 [03:37] <sugoi> if it breaks before you install the mods, we'll look into the problem more
#74 [03:37] <sugoi> did it give you an error report?
#75 [03:37] <Cenvix> whats an error report
#76 [03:37] <Cenvix> the blue background thing
#77 [03:38] <sugoi> Cenvix: from where you run the game, it may have created a file for you
#78 [03:38] <Cenvix> where there is a textbox and has alot of codes and words in it?
#79 [03:38] <sugoi> probably
#80 [03:38] <Cenvix> yes it did
#81 [03:39] <sugoi> can you copy that to pastebin.com, submit, and give me the resultant url?
#82 [03:39] <Cenvix> w8
#83 [03:39] <Cenvix> idk where to find it
#84 [03:40] <sugoi> go to where you have your minecraft launcher
#85 [03:40] <sugoi> the exe you downloaded from minecraft.net/download
#86 [03:41] <Cenvix> ok
#87 [03:41] <Cenvix> whats next?
#88 [03:42] <sugoi> you foudn the file?
#89 [03:42] <Cenvix> no
#90 [03:42] <Cenvix> sorry I don't know what file your talking about XD
#91 [03:43] <sugoi> do you know where your minecraft launcher is?
#92 [03:44] <Cenvix> tes
#93 [03:44] <Cenvix> yes, on my desktop
#94 [03:44] <sugoi> in that same directory, is there a file called something like hs_err...
#95 [03:44] <sugoi> i forget the exact name
#96 [03:46] <Cenvix> nope
#97 [03:46] <Cenvix> none
#98 [03:47] <sugoi> ok, no worries then
#99 [03:47] <Cenvix> is there by any chance my world could get corrupted
#100 [03:47] <sugoi> sure
#101 [03:47] <sugoi> mods are mods
#102 [03:47] <Cenvix> if the crash happens again?
#103 [03:48] <sugoi> could already have happened
#104 [03:48] <Cenvix> O_o
#105 [03:48] <Cenvix> im scared of mods now
#106 [03:48] <sugoi> just make backups
#107 [03:48] <sugoi> :) and enjoy
#108 [03:48] <Cenvix> ok
#109 [03:48] <Cenvix> thanks alot for your help
#110 [03:48] <Cenvix> :F
#111 [03:48] <Cenvix> :D*
#112 [03:48] <sugoi> :)
#113 [03:48] <Cenvix> bye
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#127 [07:25] <Bluephenix1467> can any 1 help me?
#128 [07:26] <Bluephenix1467> my minecraft account wont let me log in
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#130 [07:26] <Bluephenix1467> my mc account wont let me login
#131 [07:26] <Bluephenix1467> why wont it let me?
#132 [07:27] <Bluephenix1467> can any one anwser that for me??
#133 [07:30] <Bluephenix1467> calinou
#134 [07:32] <|Kiichan|> Bluephenix1467: whats the error the launcher tells you?
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#136 [07:33] <Calinou> Bluephenix1467: what's the error message, without it we can't do much ;)
#137 [07:34] <|Kiichan|> or spam you with all the solutions :P
#138 [07:34] <Calinou> if it's "failed to login", then you have a wrong password - try to login on the website, click "forgot password"
#139 [07:34] <Calinou> cannot connect to minecraft.net > authentication server is down, be patient
#140 [07:34] <|Kiichan|> :passreset
#141 [07:34] <|Kiichan|> :resetpass
#142 [07:34] <Calinou> there's a command to check if it's down or not: !isdown login.minecraft.net
#143 [07:34] <WugBot> resetpass: You can reset the password for your minecraft account using the following page: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#144 [07:34] <|Kiichan|> derp
#145 [07:34] <Calinou> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#146 [07:34] <|Kiichan|> !login
#147 [07:35] <GreyBot> Calinou: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#148 [07:35] <Calinou> erm
#149 [07:35] <Calinou> has the login's site URL changed?
#150 [07:35] <Bluephenix1467> ,,,,
#151 [07:35] <Bluephenix1467> but i double checked my password and user name
#152 [07:35] <|Kiichan|> no. just aubot has an actual login check now :P
#153 [07:35] <Bluephenix1467> wont work
#154 [07:35] <Bluephenix1467> TT
#155 [07:36] <Calinou> Bluephenix1467: yeah, what's the error message
#156 [07:36] <Calinou> are you trying to log in using the launcher or in website?
#157 [07:37] <Bluephenix1467> wrong pass and account
#158 [07:37] <Bluephenix1467> oh nvm it works now
#159 [07:37] <|Kiichan|> did you migrate your account? you need to use the email as username on the website then.
#160 [07:37] <Bluephenix1467> thx
#161 [07:37] <|Kiichan|> :P
#162 [07:39] <Bluephenix1467> ok
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#167 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> ?? mcedit
#168 [08:51] <VoxelHead> mcedit: https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#169 [08:51] <gamakichi> I'm having trouble purchasing minecraft, if anyone can help that would be terrific.
#170 [08:52] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#171 [08:53] <gamakichi> for the past several days I have been trying to purchase the game, I put my debit card information but the it keeps giving the the message "Transaction Failed"
#172 [08:53] <gamakichi> I waited to see if the site just needed to clear information and looked at the FAQ but nothing has changed
#173 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> That's going to be something you'll need to take up with your bank. They're most likely denying the transaction. We've seen this happen with international transactions, because of automatic anti-fraud policies in place.
#174 [08:54] <gamakichi> well I live in the States, but I'll get in contact with my bank iof that is the case. see if something is holding it up for any reason.
#175 [08:54] <GreyVulpine> Mojang is based in Sweden.
#176 [08:55] <gamakichi> oh
#177 [08:55] <gamakichi> haha
#178 [08:55] <gamakichi> I wasn't aware of that.
#179 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> Heh, no worries.
#180 [08:55] <gamakichi> well thank you for the help.
#181 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> Good luck.
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#190 [10:40] <Sladex> My client keeps crashing on startup... I've tried reinstalling the game, without any luck.... any suggestions?
#191 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> Got an error log that you can share with us?
#192 [10:42] <Sladex> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7cf3a456 -------- Generated 13.03.12 15:41 Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.3 OS: Windows 7 (amd64) version 6.1 Java: 1.6.0_31, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (mixed mode), Su
#193 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> Please use pastebin.com, don't paste it here
#194 [10:42] <Sladex> http://pastebin.com/iX7g0Qn4
#195 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> Has minecraft worked before?
#196 [10:44] <Sladex> yes. I used it yesterday, until it all of a sudden stopped working
#197 [10:44] <Wug> have you tried restarting?
#198 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> Did you install any mods?
#199 [10:45] <Sladex> yes, I've tried restarting, ofc. I have Reis Minimap
#200 [10:45] <Wug> try removing them to see if the problem is related to the mod
#201 [10:45] <Sladex> but as I said, I've tried reinstalling the game, and starting without mods. still crashes
#202 [10:45] <Wug> missed that
#203 [10:45] <Wug> :dx > Sladex
#204 [10:45] <WugBot> Sladex: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#205 [10:45] <WugBot> Sladex: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#206 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> It looks like a video issue, sometimes caused by mods, but can be attributed to video drivers sometimes crapping out.
#207 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> If you've cleared out the .minecraft folder without success, try reinstalling video drivers.
#208 [10:46] <Sladex> okay
#209 [10:47] <Sladex> I did try to reinstall java yesterday, but that was after the game crashed
#210 [10:47] <Wug> this happens immediately right? not after some gameplay?
#211 [10:48] <Sladex> I login, and then the window turns black for about 10 seconds, and then the crash report
#212 [10:48] <Sladex> I cant even play...
#213 [10:48] <Wug> I'd look at updating the video drivers
#214 [10:48] <Sladex> using spoutcraft, however, there is no problems...
#215 [10:48] <Sladex> yeah, I'll try that
#216 [10:49] <Sladex> http://pastebin.com/9jmky6ej
#217 [10:49] <Wug> Sladex: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-296.10-whql-driver.html
#218 [10:50] <Wug> most up to date driver for your card and os
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#220 [10:50] <Sladex> I'm on it already
#221 [10:50] <Sladex> but thanks :)
#222 [10:50] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't look like it
#223 [10:50] <GreyVulpine> 295.73 looks to be installed
#224 [10:50] <Wug> this one was released today
#225 [10:51] <Wug> unless you updated it within the past 6 hours, you have an older version
#226 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> I'd also do a clean install using the advanced install option
#227 [10:51] <Sladex> when I said "i'm on it", I meant that I was about to find the driver at nvidia :P
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#229 [10:51] <Wug> oh lol
#230 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#231 [10:51] <Sladex> now I just have to wait for the damned thing to download... slow ass internetconnection -.-
#232 [10:51] <Wug> ;search nvidia
#233 [10:51] <WugBot> Matches for "nvidia": driver/win7/x64/nvidia/* driver/win7/x86/nvidia/*
#234 [10:52] <Wug> :driver/win7/x64/nvidia/*
#235 [10:52] <WugBot> driver/win7/x64/nvidia/*: Platform: 64 bit Windows Vista, 7 -- Hardware: GeForce 6, GeForce 7, GeForce 8, GeForce 9, GeForce 100, GeForce 200, GeForce 300, GeForce 400, GeForce 500, and ION GPUs for Desktops
#236 [10:52] <WugBot> driver/win7/x64/nvidia/*: http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/38916
#237 [10:52] <Wug> thats a tad dated
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#239 [10:52] <clarjon1> heh.
#240 [10:52] <clarjon1> hey wug
#241 [10:53] <Wug> mm?
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#243 [10:54] <Wug> ;~ driver/win7/x64/nvidia/* Platform: 64 bit Windows Vista, 7 -- Hardware: GeForce 6, GeForce 7, GeForce 8, GeForce 9, GeForce 100, GeForce 200, GeForce 300, GeForce 400, GeForce 500, and ION GPUs for Desktops;;http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-296.10-whql-driver.html
#244 [10:55] <Wug> :driver/win7/x86/nvidia/*
#245 [10:55] <WugBot> driver/win7/x86/nvidia/*: Platform: 32 bit Windows Vista, 7 -- Hardware: GeForce 6, GeForce 7, GeForce 8, GeForce 9, GeForce 100, GeForce 200, GeForce 300, GeForce 400, GeForce 500, and ION GPUs for Desktop
#246 [10:55] <WugBot> driver/win7/x86/nvidia/*: http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/38915
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#248 [10:55] <Wug> ;~ driver/win7/x86/nvidia/* Platform: 32 bit Windows Vista, 7 -- Hardware: GeForce 6, GeForce 7, GeForce 8, GeForce 9, GeForce 100, GeForce 200, GeForce 300, GeForce 400, GeForce 500, and ION GPUs for Desktop;;http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-296.10-whql-driver.html
#249 [10:58] <Wug> ;+ driver/win7/x86/nvidia/mobile Platform: 32 bit Windows Vista, 7 -- Hardware: GeForce 8M, GeForce 9M, GeForce 100M, GeForce 200M, GeForce 300M, GeForce 400M, GeForce 500M, Quadro FX, Quadro NVS, and ION GPUs for Laptops/Notebooks;;http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-winvista-296.10-whql-driver.html
#250 [10:59] <Sladex> currently installing...
#251 [10:59] <Wug> ;+ driver/win7/x64/nvidia/mobile Platform: 32 bit Windows Vista, 7 -- Hardware: GeForce 8M, GeForce 9M, GeForce 100M, GeForce 200M, GeForce 300M, GeForce 400M, GeForce 500M, Quadro FX, Quadro NVS, and ION GPUs for Laptops/Notebooks;;http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-winvista-64bit-296.10-whql-driver.html
#252 [11:00] <Wug> new drivers woohoo
#253 [11:00] <Sladex> my screen resolution just went stoneage on me x)
#254 [11:00] <Wug> yeah it does that
#255 [11:00] <Sladex> :P
#256 [11:00] <Wug> I just updated my graphics drivers the other day
#257 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> Good ol' 800x600 res.
#258 [11:00] <Sladex> indeed <3
#259 [11:01] <Wug> do not want
#260 [11:01] <Sladex> ahh, there we go! Problem solved (for now)
#261 [11:01] <Sladex> Thanks, guys :)
#262 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> \o/
#263 [11:02] <Sladex> I don't suppose you do bukkitsupport?
#264 [11:03] <GreyVulpine> -> #bukkit
#265 [11:05] <Sladex> ty
#266 [11:05] <Sladex> ty
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#268 [11:11] <clarjon1> wait, so
#269 [11:11] <clarjon1> when you update your gfx drivers, it doesn't retain the resolution you had set?
#270 [11:12] <clarjon1> I've yet to have that problem...
#271 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> During the install process, it needs to unload the video drivers for a second, reverting your resolution back to VGA standard.
#272 [11:13] <GreyVulpine> Most modern video drivers will save the preexisting resolution settings and revert back to them upon completion of the install and restart.
#273 [11:14] <Wug> you'll probably only notice for a clean reinstall
#274 [11:14] <clarjon1> I'm playing with fire, right now.
#275 [11:14] <Wug> otherwise the driver wont be missing long enough to notice
#276 [11:14] <Wug> don't catch fail
#277 [11:14] <clarjon1> I'm updating drivers remotely.
#278 [11:14] <clarjon1> Come at me, murphy.
#279 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> Ruh-roh
#280 [11:15] <clarjon1> hmmm
#281 [11:15] <Wug> you should update your network drivers remotely
#282 [11:15] <Wug> its a great idea that has no adverse effects
#283 [11:15] <clarjon1> Not sure if driver really needed updating...
#284 [11:15] <clarjon1> Or if nvidia put out an 'update' to advertise ME3
#285 [11:16] <Wug> kind of like that time I tried to ipconfig /release /renew on a machine over teamviewer
#286 [11:16] * GreyVulpine smacks Wug over head
#286 [11:16] * Wug deflects "havent you hit me enough for that? it was one time :<)
#286 [11:16] <Wug> "*
#287 [11:16] * GreyVulpine pffts
#287 [11:17] <clarjon1> PhysX software, what?
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#289 [11:19] <Wug> clarjon1: gpu accelerated physics computation
#290 [11:19] <Wug> its a good thing
#291 [11:19] <Wug> the more work you can do on your gpu, the better
#292 [11:19] <clarjon1> oooo
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#296 [11:36] <Werpers> Hello People! Is it okay talk about mods in here?
#297 [11:37] <nosheep> can a admin help me?
#298 [11:40] <nosheep> help me
#299 [11:40] <WugBot> nosheep: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#300 [11:45] <Wug> nosheep: please ask your question
#301 [11:45] <Wug> Werpers: we dont generally help with them, what issue are you having
#302 [11:45] <Wug> nosheep: please use the channel
#303 [11:46] <Wug> no, you cannot change your minecraft username
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#305 [11:49] <Wug> nosheep: use the channel
#306 [11:51] <Wug> nosheep: use the channel
#307 [11:51] <Wug> talk here
#308 [11:53] <nosheep> here?
#309 [11:53] <Wug> yes
#310 [11:54] <Wug> your username can
#311 [11:54] <Wug> can't be changed
#312 [11:54] <nosheep> self a admin not?
#313 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> Nobody can change your username.
#314 [11:55] <nosheep> ah ok thx
#315 [11:56] <Ketsueki> minecraft is stupid; you can't change your username (I am actually OK with this part of it) nor can you change your email (this is just stupid) nor is your account (user) name seperate from your display name for security (this is what I really have an issue with) and your user name is the unique reference added to permissions files (downright retarded; should be GUID or similar)
#316 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> You can change yuor email.
#317 [11:56] <Ketsueki> Oh they finally fixed /that/?
#318 [11:56] * GreyVulpine nods
#318 [11:57] <Wug> Ketsueki: want to know why you cant change your username
#319 [11:57] <Wug> also, if you migrate to a mojang account, your account name and your username are different
#320 [11:57] <Ketsueki> Wug: well yes actually, but I'm assuming they made that the primary key in their DB like the configs.
#321 [11:57] <Wug> your email address becomes account name
#322 [11:57] <Ketsueki> Wug: though you still can't /change/ your user name?
#323 [11:58] <Wug> Ketsueki: I'll demonstrate
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#325 [11:59] <nickname> blarg blarg I am a griefer and a pest
#326 [11:59] * VoxelHead kicked nickname from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ickname :Banned)
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#328 [11:59] <anothernickname> blarg blarg I am the same person with a different name
#329 [11:59] <Ketsueki> See right there is the issue. That name should -never- have been the key for doign that with.
#330 [12:00] <anothernickname> your bans are now ineffective because you can't ban my name
#331 [12:00] <anothernickname> they cant ban by account name, because that would involve making the account names public
#332 [12:00] <anothernickname> anyone with a server would be able to look up the account names of anyone with an account
#333 [12:00] <Ketsueki> Yet if you're truely a griefer you've probably got a hoard of password cracked account names; attacking said accounts is also easier because the /username/ is tossed out there
#334 [12:00] <Ketsueki> Yet if you're truely a griefer you've probably got a hoard of password cracked account names; attacking said accounts is also easier because the /username/ is tossed out there
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#336 [12:01] <Ketsueki> No, you want to look up the identity of those to ban. Presumably you'd also like to have those resolvable to something human for list management.
#337 [12:01] <Wug> a uid would not be a bad idea
#338 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Last I heard, it was in the plans, but that was a year or more ago
#339 [12:02] <Wug> also http://pastebin.com/nxFQuzbH
#340 [12:02] <Wug> make sure you are not on this list
#341 [12:02] <Ketsueki> A FAR better design is what valve did. Account access credentials are one thing, displayed name is another; within the system there is a system-value that both are related to (the actual identity)
#342 [12:03] <Wug> minecraft is not a very secure system
#343 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> Then people would bitch even more when mojang's id system goes down
#344 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> Mojang doesn't have a distributed CDN and worldwide account management system like Valve does
#345 [12:03] <Ketsueki> that's relevent how? If it goes down now you're still offline.
#346 [12:03] <Wug> when minecraft eventually becomes open source maybe that will be possible
#347 [12:04] <Ketsueki> Wug: if it becomes open source or replaced by such I'd far rather have a distributed credential system like a GPG/PGP web of trust.
#348 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> My point being, it's already a fragile system. It works as needed right now.
#349 [12:04] <Wug> it doesnt need a distributed system that badly
#350 [12:05] <Wug> it just needs a few little protections against some things
#351 [12:05] <Wug> account names should not be changable
#352 [12:05] <Wug> it will only cause confusion
#353 [12:08] <Ketsueki> Wug: Alternate solution. Servers feed back their bans list. If you are banned on <5 servers (to prevent griefers from locking your name) you can change it. Larger servers might count as more weight in this list...
#354 [12:08] <Wug> have you heard of mcbans
#355 [12:09] <Wug> because putting that kind of control in the hands of players has been shown by example to be a bad idea
#356 [12:09] <Wug> especially because anyone can run a server
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#358 [12:12] <adde> hi, i have got a error messege dont know what to do to get rid of it. its not my videocard
#359 [12:13] <sugoi> adde: what is the error?
#360 [12:13] <adde> em, Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7cf3a456 -------- Generated 2012-03-13 17:58 Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.3 OS: Windows NT (unknown) (x86) version 6.2 Java: 1.6.0_31, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 OpenGL: null version null
#361 [12:13] <sugoi> adde: sorry, use pastebin for large pastes
#362 [12:13] <sugoi> but first why do you think it isn't your video card? :)
#363 [12:14] <sugoi> adde: put the entire message in pastebin.com
#364 [12:14] <sugoi> and share the submitted url
#365 [12:14] <adde> i had that problem a week ago so i uppdated it then
#366 [12:14] <sugoi> i'll ask more questions after the pastebin url
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#368 [12:15] <adde> fixed the problem :)
#369 [12:15] <sugoi> what was it?
#370 [12:15] <adde> i removed and reinstalled java
#371 [12:16] <sugoi> nice o_O
#372 [12:16] * sugoi shakes his head at java
#372 [12:16] <sugoi> for posterity, would you mind still sharing your pastebin of that error?
#373 [12:16] <adde> em, are you people good at computers?
#374 [12:16] <adde> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7cf3a456 -------- Generated 2012-03-13 17:58 Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.3 OS: Windows NT (unknown) (x86) version 6.2 Java: 1.6.0_31, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 OpenGL: null version null, nu
#375 [12:16] <sugoi> adde: PASTEBIN
#376 [12:17] * sugoi shakes adde by the shoulders
#376 [12:17] <sugoi> adde: go to pastebin.com, copy+paste that error, click submit, copy the url and paste the url here
#377 [12:17] <sugoi> yes we're great at computers to answer your question
#378 [12:18] <sugoi> except for Grim_Reaper <- clueless
#379 [12:18] <adde> this is not mc related. but i have uppdated till win 8 and my soundcard dosent work with this system. do you know a card who does?
#380 [12:19] <sugoi> adde: first of all, are you wanting to share that error with us on pastebin.com ?
#381 [12:19] <adde> yes, i can share
#382 [12:19] <adde> no prob
#383 [12:21] <adde> http://pastebin.com/44GvpQ99
#384 [12:22] <sugoi> secondly, i've been googling for w8 sound issues
#385 [12:22] <adde> found anything?
#386 [12:22] <sugoi> so far i can only find people upset about it
#387 [12:23] <adde> oh, ok. thanks anyway
#388 [12:23] <sugoi> not sure yet who is happy about it (i.e. cards that are known to work)
#389 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> We just had one person with the same error come by. Needs a reinstall of video drivers to fix
#390 [12:23] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: for his pastebin? ( he said java reinst worked ), or sound?
#391 [12:23] <adde> i did a softtwhere uppdate on my videocard
#392 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#393 [12:23] <adde> a few days ago
#394 [12:23] <sugoi> adde: and that broke it? and java reinstall fixed it?
#395 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> How exactly did you update your video card?
#396 [12:24] <adde> i went to Nvidas webbpage and filled in witch videocard i had. then i got a sugestion witch veriation i wanned and i took the latestoine
#397 [12:25] <adde> latest one
#398 [12:25] * sugoi dated a which in highschool
#398 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> Do that again now. When you go to install it, instead of doing the express install, you'll want advanced. Check the "Clean install" option
#399 [12:26] <adde> i did that when i installed
#400 [12:26] <sugoi> adde: didn't you say the issue is resolved now? and that java reinstall seems to have fixed it?
#401 [12:26] <adde> yes, it did
#402 [12:27] <adde> i have one more question. chuld i take it now or chuld i wait with it?
#403 [12:29] <sugoi> take what now?
#404 [12:29] <adde> how do i fix so it says admin or owner or player etc infront of your name online?
#405 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> requires a modded server
#406 [12:30] * sugoi dittos
#406 [12:30] <adde> its a 24/7 server
#407 [12:30] <Wug> then you can't add it
#408 [12:30] <sugoi> o_O heh
#409 [12:31] <adde> like [Owner] the_adde or [Admin] the_adde
#410 [12:31] <sugoi> adde: mods
#411 [12:31] <adde> where from do i download it?
#412 [12:32] <sugoi> adde: i don't know, i just know that isn't a vanilla feature, try google
#413 [12:32] <adde> ok, thanks
#414 [12:32] <sugoi> adde: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=minecraft+server+mod+prefix+admin+names
#415 [12:32] <Morrolan> Most permissions plugin offer the adding of Metadata, e.g Prefixes and Suffixes
#416 [12:32] <Morrolan> Permissions plugins*
#417 [12:33] <Morrolan> Suggest you check the documentation of yours.
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#422 [12:55] <Alatreonkillers> Im looking for somone to work in my channel 24/7 AND they get a bigg shiney star and a big shiney key
#423 [12:55] <Alatreonkillers> can anyone do that?
#424 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> This isn't a operator-recruitment channel.
#425 [12:55] <Alatreonkillers> Im asking anyone
#426 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> What does the job pay?
#427 [12:56] <clarjon1> a big shiney star?
#428 [12:56] <clarjon1> ohgod
#429 [12:56] <clarjon1> you're a mibbit user
#430 [12:56] <clarjon1> You really shouldn't use mibbit for running a channel, it lacks features that assist in this task :)
#431 [12:56] <|Kiichan|> Alatreonkillers: ill give it a shot if you pay me better than my parttime job :P
#432 [12:56] <Alatreonkillers> The job pay u get to custonize the channel a little bit and if you get more people to stay you get higher in command
#433 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> Woo...
#434 [12:57] * |Kiichan| has no idea what 'custonize' is
#434 [12:57] <Alatreonkillers> lol
#435 [12:57] <|Kiichan|> is that custom colonization? :D
#436 [12:57] <Alatreonkillers> so you can do it 24/7?
#437 [12:57] * |Kiichan| calls in wug to 'colonize' with his botnet
#437 [12:57] <Alatreonkillers> kinda
#438 [12:58] <Alatreonkillers> Kiichan
#439 [12:58] <Alatreonkillers> ...
#440 [12:58] <Alatreonkillers> can you [Kiichan]
#441 [12:58] <|Kiichan|> Alatreonkillers: as grey said, this isnt a recruitment channel. mibbit is crap. and no, if im going to run a channel for you, i woudl DEMAND founder-level before anything
#442 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> Please stop bugging the users here.
#443 [12:59] <clarjon1> |Kiichan|: oi, i said that mibbit is crap
#444 [12:59] <|Kiichan|> tl;dr; shoo. you go 'way now.
#445 [12:59] <Alatreonkillers> kiichan want me to tell you the ranks?
#446 [12:59] <|Kiichan|> ok clarjon1 said mibbit was crap.. i was just a greeing :P
#447 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> !k Alatreonkillers
#448 [12:59] * GreyBot kicked Alatreonkillers from #minecrafthelp (Reason: latreonkillers :<Kicks:920>)
#449 [12:59] <Calinou> v_v
#450 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> Rather not
#451 [12:59] <|Kiichan|> ^
#452 [12:59] <Calinou> let's not spam more
#453 [12:59] <|Kiichan|> :P
#454 [13:00] <|Kiichan|> also.. he fails for not knowing his pipes. :P
#455 [13:00] <clarjon1> lol
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#457 [13:02] * Wug attacks channel with bots
#457 [13:02] <Wug> IM MANAGING
#458 [13:02] <clarjon1> wooo
#459 [13:02] * GreyVulpine pats Wug on head.
#459 [13:03] <|Kiichan|> hehehe
#460 [13:03] <clarjon1> huzzah, my experiment to create a ssh key based multi-user git is working :3
#461 [13:04] <|Kiichan|> orly?
#462 [13:04] <clarjon1> mhm
#463 [13:05] <|Kiichan|> also... the MCForum character tourny.. i call last round being Enderman vs Diablo
#464 [13:08] <|Kiichan|> is it bad that ez's avatar scares me? http://www.minecraftforum.net/uploads/av-17.png
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#467 [13:21] <mandy> hey
#468 [13:22] <mandy> how can my brother connect to my server(we use the same router)?
#469 [13:22] <Wug> have him connect to your local address
#470 [13:22] <sugoi> mandy: you'll need two accounts
#471 [13:22] <mandy> yes,we have 2 different accounts
#472 [13:22] <mandy> and he is on the other computer
#473 [13:23] <clarjon1> mandy: do you know the IP of your server computer?
#474 [13:23] <clarjon1> the LAN IP?
#475 [13:23] <Wug> you can find it by using the command "ipconfig" from a command prompt
#476 [13:23] <Wug> the field you are looking for is labeled "IPv4 address"
#477 [13:23] <clarjon1> it'll look something like 192.168.1.100 or similar :)
#478 [13:24] <mandy> yes,found it
#479 [13:24] <clarjon1> tell him to connect to that ip :)
#480 [13:24] <sugoi> mandy: and you'll need some popcorn as you enjoy the MASS response to you question
#481 [13:24] <mandy> tipe it in "direct connect"?
#482 [13:24] <clarjon1> yup
#483 [13:24] <clarjon1> He can also add it to the server list.
#484 [13:24] <mandy> ok,thanks
#485 [13:25] <mandy> works,thank you :)
#486 [13:25] <mandy> and bye
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#488 [13:26] <sugoi> i'm surprised no one addressed the first part of his question
#489 [13:26] <sugoi> i.e. his brother
#490 [13:27] <Wug> sugoi: what of it
#491 [13:27] * sugoi fails at humor
#491 [13:27] * |Kiichan| throws a pie
#491 [13:27] * sugoi catches it with his face
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#496 [13:56] * sugoi thinks of _the_ _navigator_ when he reads [Hyperspace]
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#497 [14:17] <Britanian> hi
#498 [14:17] <sugoi> hi :)
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#500 [14:26] <Brooky> hello.. Question about MC for Android and/or Ipod , trying to connect to MC server on local lan possible?
#501 [14:28] <sugoi> Brooky: i'll google it, but my bet is that the mobile version is not compatable
#502 [14:28] * sugoi is reading http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Pocket_Edition
#502 [14:28] <Brooky> Tried to google but got hit brick wall...
#503 [14:29] <Brooky> but that website said [Online mode] only 5 players can be on 1 server.
#504 [14:29] <sugoi> i see that
#505 [14:29] <Brooky> no instructions on that or HOW to do it...
#506 [14:29] <Brooky> thanks :)
#507 [14:29] <sugoi> but again, i feel this is a different game essentially
#508 [14:30] <sugoi> hmm...ok, still looking
#509 [14:30] <sugoi> Brooky: there are others here that know more than me
#510 [14:30] <sugoi> so don't leave too soon :)
#511 [14:34] <Brooky> Great. im still here and watiing...
#512 [14:35] <sugoi> Brooky: um, it could take 1 minute, it could take 1 hour ... it's irc :)
#513 [14:35] <sugoi> i found this tho: http://www.technobuffalo.com/gaming/portable/minecraft-pocket-edition-available-for-the-xperia-play/
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#515 [14:35] <sugoi> Brooky: ppl here are volunteers; we aren't paid to do this and may go afk for our own personal reasons
#516 [14:36] <sugoi> but the bots are always listening
#517 [14:36] <sugoi> Grim_Reaper is a bot, for example
#518 [14:36] * sugoi starts up Grim_Reaper
#518 [14:36] <Brooky> I see.. Im always learning soemthing new everyday :)
#519 [14:36] <Grim_Reaper> Brooky Im not a bot
#520 [14:37] <Grim_Reaper> ~goes back to watching movie
#521 [14:37] * Pepper has cookies for Grim_Reaper
#521 [14:37] <Grim_Reaper> <3 thanks lol
#522 [14:37] * Grim_Reaper hugs Pepper
#522 [14:37] <Grim_Reaper> ~afkish
#523 [14:37] <Pepper> <3
#524 [14:38] <sugoi> Brooky: so my super quick glance confirms my initial thought, it is not compatable with the 'pc' server/client
#525 [14:39] <sugoi> and that links should be enough info to start up a server you need
#526 [14:39] <Calinou> ^ and probably never will
#527 [14:39] <Calinou> more like "and never will"
#528 [14:39] * sugoi nods
#528 [14:39] * sugoi is still nodding
#528 [14:39] <Brooky> Yes, I can see what your saying..
#529 [14:40] <Brooky> I will have to inform my kids and they'll be disappointment.. for now.. THANKS!
#530 [14:40] <Brooky> g'day ya'll
#531 [14:40] <sugoi> laters
#532 [14:41] <Morrolan> Eh, somehow I'm having a hard time believing that all these "parents" who join here are actually parents.
#533 [14:41] <sugoi> heh
#534 [14:42] <sugoi> i balance it out by declaring i'm 7 years old
#535 [14:42] <Morrolan> If parents these days are actually that impatient like most of them, then we'll have some issues sooner or later.
#536 [14:42] <Morrolan> Haha
#537 [14:42] <Morrolan> like most of them are*
#538 [14:42] * sugoi has actually been employed as a software enginner for about 7 years
#538 [14:44] <sugoi> haha, 7 years this month
#539 [14:44] <sugoi> happy birthday to me!
#540 [14:44] * GreyVulpine gives sugoi a cookie
#540 [14:44] * sugoi noms
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#546 [14:59] <IDome> Does anyone know a good software which allows the ability to change jars?
#547 [15:02] <sugoi> IDome: 7zip
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#565 [16:18] <RPAnimation> whether it is possible that when I log on to two computers at the same time I lose my premium account?
#566 [16:19] <TheMouldyMarsBar> No
#567 [16:19] <TheMouldyMarsBar> That wouldn't happen, because doing something like that would give you a refund if it took away your premium
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#569 [16:23] <TheMouldyMarsBar> I can't, but you could ask Mojang.
#570 [16:24] <RPAnimation> how?
#571 [16:24] <TheMouldyMarsBar> Twitter.
#572 [16:24] <TheMouldyMarsBar> Just search for "Mojang"
#573 [16:25] <TheMouldyMarsBar> And use the official one
#574 [16:26] <Oerg866> hey I'm having a problem
#575 [16:26] <Oerg866> After a few seconds, minecraft starts losing
#576 [16:26] <Oerg866> er
#577 [16:26] <Oerg866> closing
#578 [16:26] <Oerg866> just, it closes
#579 [16:28] <TheMouldyMarsBar> Move your mouse away from that goddamn red button.
#580 [16:28] <TheMouldyMarsBar> Hope I fixed your simple problem.
#581 [16:28] <Oerg866> red button?
#582 [16:28] <Wug> TheMouldyMarsBar: do you own a computer
#583 [16:28] <TheMouldyMarsBar> Yes.
#584 [16:28] <Wug> ever had a program crash
#585 [16:28] <TheMouldyMarsBar> I own 4 PC's and 2 macs.
#586 [16:29] <TheMouldyMarsBar> No, because my program's are up to date.
#587 [16:29] * sugoi rolls eyes
#587 [16:29] * Wug kicked TheMouldyMarsBar from #minecrafthelp (Reason: heMouldyMarsBar :I understand why you're banned from so many other minecraft channels)
#588 [16:29] <sugoi> Oerg866: do you get an error report file (Created in the same dir as your launcher)
#589 [16:30] <Oerg866> uh let me check
#590 [16:30] <Spudstabber> Wug: wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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#592 [16:30] <sugoi> ;quiet TheMouldyMarsBar
#593 [16:30] <sugoi> TheMouldyMarsBar: keep it chill in here, k?
#594 [16:30] <sugoi> ;dq TheMouldyMarsBar
#595 [16:30] <Spudstabber> VoxelHead: y u so oversensitive
#596 [16:30] <Oerg866> sugoi: there is no report file
#597 [16:30] <Wug> because voxelhead
#598 [16:30] <TheMouldyMarsBar> I'm not.
#599 [16:31] <Wug> >keep it chill in here, k?
#600 [16:31] <Spudstabber> Wug: It's almost as bad as Lain
#601 [16:31] <sugoi> Oerg866: well that's not fair
#602 [16:31] <Wug> >I'm not.
#603 [16:31] <Wug> theres your problem
#604 [16:31] <sugoi> :)
#605 [16:31] <TheMouldyMarsBar> And, wug, I'm not banned from so many other Minecraft channels, kthx.
#606 [16:31] * Wug /mode #minecraft b
#606 [16:31] <Grim_Reaper> Errherrrm
#607 [16:31] * sugoi predicts minecrafthelp
#607 [16:32] <Oerg866> I just noticed it doesnt happen in the browser version
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#609 [16:32] <TheMouldyMarsBar> Hmm..
#610 [16:32] <TheMouldyMarsBar> Do you have any mods installed?
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#612 [16:32] <Oerg866> No
#613 [16:32] <sugoi> Oerg866: _not_ in browser, interesting - are you running the game fullscreen when it crashes?
#614 [16:32] <Oerg866> No
#615 [16:32] <Wug> mods work only rarely in the browser version
#616 [16:33] <TheMouldyMarsBar> Wug, I was talking about the standalone program.
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#618 [16:33] <Wug> they share the same files
#619 [16:34] <sugoi> Oerg866: i'm just guessing here now, i would reinstall the latest gpu driver directly from the manufacterer
#620 [16:34] <sugoi> s/erer/urer/
#621 [16:35] <Oerg866> OK well
#622 [16:35] <Oerg866> It seems that the standalone version crashes after like 1 minute
#623 [16:35] <Oerg866> and just disappears
#624 [16:35] <RPAnimation> Will I be informed of this when I lose my premium account (e-mail)
#625 [16:35] <Wug> Oerg866: os/gpu/version of java?
#626 [16:35] <Oerg866> and the browser version is completely fine
#627 [16:35] <RPAnimation> ??
#628 [16:36] <sugoi> RPAnimation: why would you lose it?
#629 [16:36] <Wug> RPAnimation: you do not lose premium status
#630 [16:36] <Oerg866> Win7 64 / radeon 6850 / 1.6 whatever the altest update is because i installed it today
#631 [16:36] <sugoi> ^ better put
#632 [16:36] <Wug> it is permanent barring exceptional circumstances
#633 [16:36] <Wug> Oerg866: did you install the 64 bit version
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#635 [16:37] <Wug> because if you didnt, minecraft likes to crash after 10 minutes because it runs out of memory
#636 [16:37] <Oerg866> Wug: I installed the one that minecraft told me to... you know,w hen you don't have java installed and run minecraft.exe it opens the java website
#637 [16:37] <Wug> Oerg866: open a command prompt and run java -version
#638 [16:37] * sugoi still recommends latest video driver
#638 [16:38] <Wug> thats also a possibility
#639 [16:38] <Oerg866> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_31-b05)
#640 [16:38] <Oerg866> My graphics driver *is* the latest :o
#641 [16:38] <Wug> does it say 64 bit?
#642 [16:38] <Oerg866> No it does not
#643 [16:38] <Wug> :j
#644 [16:38] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u31-download-1501637.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 31)
#645 [16:39] <Wug> or if you like
#646 [16:39] <Wug> :j7
#647 [16:39] <WugBot> j7: You can try java 7 here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-7u2-download-1377135.html
#648 [16:39] <Wug> I think theyre on 7u3 now
#649 [16:39] * Grim_Reaper hugs Wug x-x
#649 [16:39] * sugoi thought 6 is always better than 7 for mc, and 7 works sometimes but not when 6 doesnt
#649 [16:39] <Wug> sugoi: I havent seen any java7 caused issues for a while
#650 [16:39] <Oerg866> well I have the recommmended version
#651 [16:40] <Wug> Oerg866: uninstall it and get this one http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-7u3-download-1501631.html
#652 [16:40] <Wug> the 64 bit for windows one
#653 [16:40] <Wug> or, you can leave it and install both
#654 [16:40] <Wug> if you dont use java for much else you might as well uninstall it
#655 [16:40] <sugoi> Oerg866: it is 'recommended' to listen to wug, just fyi :)
#656 [16:40] <Wug> heh
#657 [16:41] <Wug> ;~ j7 You can try java 7 here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-7u3-download-1501631.html
#658 [16:41] <Oerg866> The installer crashes when it starts
#659 [16:41] <Oerg866> o_o
#660 [16:41] * sugoi laughs
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#661 [16:41] <Wug> uhh
#662 [16:41] <Wug> get teamviewer
#663 [16:42] <RPAnimation> if I bought a key from another source and it is inappropriate, Mojang inform me about this that I do not have a premium account?
#664 [16:42] <Oerg866> I think i know what it is to
#665 [16:42] <sugoi> RPAnimation: it may be premium for now, but the scam could cause it to be disabled
#666 [16:42] * sugoi tries to not get into details
#666 [16:43] <Oerg866> I'll change my RAM tomorrow and check if it happens again.. i think it isnot entirely stable
#667 [16:43] <sugoi> RPAnimation: point is, if you didn't buy it from minecraft.net, expect it to not last
#668 [16:43] <Wug> RPAnimation: if you lose premium status, perform a chargeback
#669 [16:43] <sugoi> ^^
#670 [16:44] <sugoi> in fact - i think if he didn't buy it from minecraft, he should charge back now anyways
#671 [16:44] <sugoi> and even inform mojang of his username and that it is from suchandsuch.com
#672 [16:44] <sugoi> Wug: agree?
#673 [16:44] <Wug> you could do that
#674 [16:44] <Wug> use the account issues link in the topic
#675 [16:45] <sugoi> ..AndThisNi ?
#676 [16:46] <sugoi> :) NickIsReallyLong?
#677 [16:46] <LilLucy> Yeah
#678 [16:46] <LilLucy> for him
#679 [16:46] <LilLucy> /nick IReallyHeartWugSoMuchAndThisNickisLongForHim
#680 [16:46] <sugoi> heh
#681 [16:46] <LilLucy> Didnt' work out well
#682 [16:46] <sugoi> haha
#683 [16:46] * Wug kickbans
#683 [16:46] <LilLucy> ;;
#684 [16:48] <RPAnimation> When I entered the key for a few hours I had a premium account. But now I haven't. Mojang inform me that the key was illegal?
#685 [16:48] <LilLucy> ;scam
#686 [16:48] <Wug> :scam
#687 [16:48] <WugBot> scam: Do not buy minecraft from anywhere except http://minecraft.net There is a high probability that the gift code you purchase will later be disabled.
#688 [16:48] <WugBot> scam: This scam is possible because it is possible to perform a chargeback on the payment made for the gift code. This results in the money being transferred back into the buyers account and Mojang disabling the gift code.
#689 [16:48] <LilLucy> WugBot!
#690 [16:48] <sugoi> RPAnimation: are you asking if mojang WILL inform you?
#691 [16:48] <LilLucy> Oh you changed the prefix?
#692 [16:49] <Wug> no, its al;ways been :
#693 [16:49] <sugoi> LilLucy: text nodes are :
#694 [16:49] <LilLucy> pfft
#695 [16:49] <sugoi> LilLucy: commands are ;
#696 [16:49] <LilLucy> Oh right >_>
#697 [16:49] <RPAnimation> no
#698 [16:49] * sugoi accepts LilLucy's pfft
#698 [16:50] <sugoi> RPAnimation: so you're saying mojang already told you it was illegal?
#699 [16:50] * sugoi wonders how much he isn't understanding
#699 [16:50] <RPAnimation> yes
#700 [16:51] <sugoi> RPAnimation: you now need to contact your bank and report the fraudulent charge
#701 [16:51] <sugoi> RPAnimation: i.e. chargeback
#702 [16:51] <sugoi> RPAnimation: then, go to minecraft.net and buy an account from them directly
#703 [16:52] <RPAnimation> I understand
#704 [16:52] <sugoi> RPAnimation: also
#705 [16:52] <sugoi> i'm sorry
#706 [16:52] <sugoi> :(
#707 [16:52] * sugoi growls at voxelhead
#707 [16:52] <Spudstabber> VoxelHead really is too sensitive... xD
#708 [16:52] <sugoi> Spudstabber: :) nah, it helps more than it disrupts
#709 [16:53] <Spudstabber> Heh
#710 [16:53] <sugoi> truth is, i could have said: "RPAnimation: also, I'm sorry, :(" <- one line
#711 [16:53] <Spudstabber> True, but when someone genuinely is a fast typer
#712 [16:53] <Spudstabber> it can be irritating
#713 [16:54] <sugoi> Spudstabber: just type fast and use ',' in place of \n :)
#714 [16:54] <Spudstabber> Yeah
#715 [16:54] * Spudstabber does
#715 [16:54] <Spudstabber> Alternatively, semicolons!
#716 [16:54] <Spudstabber> wheee \o/
#717 [16:54] <sugoi> Spudstabber: i head you, for irc the text is pushed up too high when everyone is using numerous and short phrases
#718 [16:54] <sugoi> heh
#719 [16:54] <sugoi> heard* you
#720 [16:55] <Spudstabber> Heh, yeah
#721 [16:55] <sugoi> hear** even
#722 [16:55] <Spudstabber> Careful with all those corrections, you'll get quieted!
#723 [16:55] <sugoi> sheesh! typos!
#724 [16:55] <sugoi> ;quiet sugoi
#725 [16:55] <Spudstabber> xD
#726 [16:55] * Spudstabber tuts at sugoi
#726 [16:56] <LilLucy> ;dq sugoi
#727 [16:56] <LilLucy> Oh right >_.
#728 [16:56] <Spudstabber> xD
#729 [16:56] <LilLucy> I dont think Wug knows this nick
#730 [16:56] <Spudstabber> Silly grim
#731 [16:57] <Wug> yes I do
#732 [16:57] <sugoi> LilLucy: :/ - it was a ruse to get back to work :)
#733 [16:57] * Wug knows everything
#733 [16:57] * sugoi knows he can talk w/o q
#733 [16:58] <LilLucy> WugBot *
#734 [16:58] <LilLucy> Not you wug ;;
#735 [17:02] <RPAnimation> When I lose my skin premium account is deleted?
#736 [17:02] <RPAnimation> When I lose my premium account skin is deleted? *
#737 [17:02] <sugoi> RPAnimation: edit? "Do I lose my skin when my p... ^
#738 [17:03] <Wug> youre not supposed to be able to lose premium under regular circumstances, so I dont know
#739 [17:03] <Wug> its not something I can test
#740 [17:03] <sugoi> if skin is associated to an account you can't access or no logner exists, i don't see how you haven't "lost" your skin
#741 [17:06] <RPAnimation> the one who sold me the code says that after three days the account should be premium again
#742 [17:06] <sugoi> RPAnimation: lies
#743 [17:06] <Wug> please just believe us
#744 [17:06] <sugoi> RPAnimation: or truth covered in more lies
#745 [17:06] <Wug> we're the official support
#746 [17:06] <Wug> its a very common scam
#747 [17:06] <Wug> its not going to return
#748 [17:10] <RPAnimation> so why my skin when it logs remain in offline mode?
#749 [17:10] <sugoi> cached?
#750 [17:10] <sugoi> RPAnimation: seriously bro, there is only ONE place to buy minecraft: minecraft.net
#751 [17:11] <sugoi> RPAnimation: maybe your skin works still bc it is cached on your computer
#752 [17:16] <RPAnimation> not true when I deleted the entire contents of the game and installed it again the skin remains
#753 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> RPAnimation - What is your minecraft username?
#754 [17:17] <RPAnimation> RPAnimation
#755 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> !paid RPAnimation
#756 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Looks like the custom skin is still loaded, though you probably can't change it now that you're not premium
#757 [17:18] <RPAnimation> what?
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#759 [17:18] <RPAnimation> i paid for giftcode
#760 [17:19] <Wug> RPAnimation: you have been told what has happened
#761 [17:19] <Grim_Reaper> Night ~
#762 [17:19] <Wug> when you buy things from people who are not selling things, you dont get anything
#763 [17:19] <Wug> this is what happened
#764 [17:20] <Wug> only buy minecraft from minecraft.net
#765 [17:20] * sugoi wonders how RPAnimation installed it again if his account is not premium
#765 [17:21] <RPAnimation> from pi**te version
#766 [17:22] <sugoi> RPAnimation: we really do sympathize for your loss, but to mojang, you have no account
#767 [17:22] <sugoi> RPAnimation: i don't know where 'skins' are cached/stored, i don't know how they exist post scam issues...but that proves nothing either way
#768 [17:23] * Wug kicked RPAnimation from #minecrafthelp (Reason: PAnimation :RPAnimation)
#769 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Easy there..
#770 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> sugoi - For your information, skins are stored at: http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftSkins/usernamehere.png
#771 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> the username is caps-sensitive
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#773 [17:25] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: but in the context of post premium-loss (scam), i didn't know if your system caches it after download
#774 [17:25] <Wug> on second thought that probably was not justified
#775 [17:25] <Wug> but only because he owned it before
#776 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft does not cache your skin
#777 [17:25] <Wug> I have a feeling that you only cannot *change* your skin if you are not premium
#778 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Upon login, the skin is downloaded from the amazonaws server.
#779 [17:25] <sugoi> local cache may exist, that was my point
#780 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Back in alpha, it was possible to change the character skin via the minecraft.jar
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#782 [17:25] <Wug> and that if it has been changed and you are not premium, it will remain changed
#783 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> I do not know if it is still possible
#784 [17:26] <sugoi> he asked 'why do i still have my old skin'
#785 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Because it's still there on amazonaws
#786 [17:26] <sugoi> so i was theorizing 'where' it might be - perhaps the skin is kept online post premium (i.e. they don't clean up)
#787 [17:26] <sugoi> k
#788 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> You can also check via http://minecraft.novaskin.me/
#789 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Enter in the username there
#790 [17:29] * sugoi does not see a skin for rpanimatino
#790 [17:29] <sugoi> on*
#791 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Caps sensitive
#792 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> "RPAnimation"
#793 [17:29] <sugoi> noted the first time you said that, i cp pasted from irc the username spelling he gave
#794 [17:30] <sugoi> ah
#795 [17:30] <sugoi> i misunderstood the site
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#797 [17:31] <sugoi> ok nope, i still fail
#798 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#799 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> You're entering RPAnimation into the Name/URL box at the top, right?
#800 [17:32] <sugoi> aah
#801 [17:32] * sugoi was not
#801 [17:32] <sugoi> thanks :)
#802 [17:32] * GreyVulpine nods
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#804 [18:01] <KOOLGUY> Hi all!
#805 [18:01] <KOOLGUY> this is my first time here!
#806 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Welcome.
#807 [18:02] <KOOLGUY> do you have minecraft?
#808 [18:02] <Boreeas> Nah <.<
#809 [18:02] <Boreeas> No one here has minecraft
#810 [18:03] <KOOLGUY> realy?
#811 [18:03] <KOOLGUY> i have minecraft the crack one :)
#812 [18:03] <Boreeas> We give support for it because we know enough about computers to fix it anyways
#813 [18:03] <Boreeas> *cough*
#814 [18:03] <KOOLGUY> by the way, i konw what KIA means!
#815 [18:04] <Boreeas> A shitty korean car
#816 [18:04] <KOOLGUY> What?
#817 [18:05] * sugoi is not less confused
#817 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> KIA is a brand of car
#818 [18:05] <KOOLGUY> KIA = Killed In Action
#819 [18:06] <KOOLGUY> i find by my self
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#823 [18:07] <sugoi> KOOLGUY: i think you're lost
#824 [18:07] <KOOLGUY> ?
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#827 [18:08] <yourface> is three a server command to make it snow?
#828 [18:08] <sugoi> KOOLGUY: this irc channel is in place to help users with vanilla minecraft issues. we'd prefer you stay on that topic
#829 [18:08] <sugoi> yourface: without mods, no
#830 [18:08] <sugoi> KOOLGUY: do you have a question about purchasing minecraft?
#831 [18:08] <yourface> how about making it day/night?
#832 [18:09] <sugoi> yourface: night -> day w/ bed :)
#833 [18:09] <KOOLGUY> im watching "How I Met Your Mother" :)
#834 [18:09] <sugoi> ;kick KOOLGUY on topic please
#835 [18:09] * WugBot kicked KOOLGUY from #minecrafthelp (Reason: OOLGUY :on topic please)
#836 [18:09] <Boreeas> ;quiet KOOLGUY
#837 [18:09] <sugoi> ha!
#838 [18:09] <yourface> lol
#839 [18:09] <Boreeas> Damn ninjas
#840 [18:09] <sugoi> haha
#841 [18:09] <yourface> havent watched that show in a while
#842 [18:10] <Boreeas> ;dequiet KOOLGUY
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#850 [18:40] <longnmusic> Hi, I created my account a long time ago with the username Longwang because thats my real name. I recently started playing minecraft online and now am running into ban issues because of that name. Is there anyway I can change my username?
#851 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> There is not
#852 [18:40] <sugoi> longnmusic: currently there is not
#853 [18:40] <longnmusic> :[
#854 [18:40] <sugoi> pretty good real-life name, tho
#855 [18:41] <DiskDaemon> The only solution seems to be to buy another account with a less offensive name
#856 [18:41] <longnmusic> How is it an offensive name
#857 [18:41] <sugoi> :)
#858 [18:42] <longnmusic> that is my real name
#859 [18:42] <DiskDaemon> longnmusic: You are being banned due to the name. Q.E.D.
#860 [18:42] <sugoi> DiskDaemon: ?
#861 [18:42] <longnmusic> i dont think being born asian should warrant a ban
#862 [18:42] <longnmusic> o well
#863 [18:42] <clarjon1> well, why not play on an asian server then
#864 [18:43] <clarjon1> besides, we can't do anything about account issues, we don't work for mojang.
#865 [18:43] <clarjon1> ;paid clarjon1
#866 [18:43] <WugBot> clarjon1 has paid for minecraft.
#867 [18:43] <clarjon1> ;paid longwang
#868 [18:43] <WugBot> longwang has paid for minecraft.
#869 [18:43] <DiskDaemon> what's the Mojang contact in regard to account issies?
#870 [18:43] <longnmusic> i couldnt find one
#871 [18:44] <longnmusic> thats why i'm here
#872 [18:44] <DiskDaemon> It starts from help.mojang.com
#873 [18:45] <longnmusic> theres no contact option on that site
#874 [18:45] <longnmusic> at least not one i can find
#875 [18:46] <sugoi> longnmusic: you can try: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#877 [18:52] <longnmusic> thanks
#878 [18:52] <longnmusic> hopefully they will make an exception
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#881 [18:59] <DiskDaemon> How can that account/payment form be navigated to from the help.mojang.com site? Is there a way to get there?
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#884 [19:02] <DiskDaemon> Ahh right, you have to go to some rather extreme options such as "my account was hacked" or "my email account has changed" and choose the link called HERE.
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#887 [19:16] <mib_68rahu> i downloaded the windows exe file and logged in but the play offline button is disabled and it says not downloaded
#888 [19:17] <mib_68rahu> any help?
#889 [19:21] <clarjon1> mib_68rahu: did you buy the game?
#890 [19:26] <mib_68rahu> yea
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#892 [19:33] <Monkeys> Hey guise. So I'm running a Minecraft server despite barely playing Minecraft, because my community's players wanted one really bad.
#893 [19:33] <Monkeys> Now there's one issue I was pointed at is Nether and End world. I didn't reach those areas in the little time I played Minecraft, but I have a vague idea of what they are.
#894 [19:33] <Monkeys> However I'm not sure what the implications of having Nether and The End accessible in Multiplayer are.
#895 [19:33] <Monkeys> Can anyone give me some insight?
#896 [19:35] <clarjon1> It means they can get to netherrack and stuff
#897 [19:35] <clarjon1> and to the ender dragon
#898 [19:35] <clarjon1> Monkeys: Nether access, if you're running vanilla, is a Must Have for potions and such
#899 [19:36] <Monkeys> I was told "you should disable nether forts if you won't have nether/end world resets"
#900 [19:36] <Monkeys> And something about a boss in the end world only spawning once ever
#901 [19:36] <Monkeys> And that it can make the game bad/unbalanced if i don't reset the worlds regularly
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#903 [19:47] <JustSarah305> Whats the deal with minecraft 1.2? I've been getting this weird bug, where even when a button is highlighted, I can't even select it on the title screen? I havent had this problem with 1.1
#904 [19:48] <JustSarah305> I still can't select anything.
#905 [19:50] <JustSarah305> Anything, thats a bug, it sometimes goes on and off, I can select sometimes, but not others.
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#908 [19:53] <Nathan2055> Can I ask a wheat question?
#909 [19:53] <Nathan2055> I'm going to pastebin because it's kind of long.
#910 [19:58] <Nathan2055> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/882548/
#911 [19:58] <Nathan2055> What am I doing wrong?
#912 [19:59] <Nathan2055> Anybody here?
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#915 [20:06] <grizzly> Hey all, Im working on a custom texture pack, and had a few questions...the main one is, can I make multiple versions of the same item and have the game randomly choose one? for example, torches...can I put in 6 different .png and have the game randomly choose one each time i place it?
#916 [20:08] <grizzly> echoooooo.....>.<
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#918 [20:09] <grizzly> well shoot.
#919 [20:09] <Pepper> grizzly: There's a mod for Random Mobs, but I've never heard of one like that for items
#920 [20:10] <Nathan2055> grizzly: I'm here.
#921 [20:10] <grizzly> :)
#922 [20:10] <grizzly> Thanks for answering ;)
#923 [20:10] <Nathan2055> grizzly: No, I don't believe that's possible.
#924 [20:10] <grizzly> tHE WIFE WANTS TO HAVE MORE THAN WHAT IS JUST OFFERED IN THE TEXTURE PACKS, AND IM TRYING TO LEARN THIS AS FAST AS i CAN
#925 [20:10] <grizzly> gah...warclubs for fingers
#926 [20:11] <Nathan2055> grizzly: Well, there could be a mod out there for it,
#927 [20:11] <Nathan2055> But we don't support that.
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#929 [20:12] <grizzly> yeah...im not into mods though....i mean the only one i saw that might be interesting is the millenaire mod, but otherwise its just the looks im after
#930 [20:12] <Nathan2055> gizzly: Well, I can't help you there.
#931 [20:12] <Nathan2055> *grizzly
#932 [20:13] <grizzly> no worries :) I can just make her more than one texture pack then :)
#933 [20:13] <Nathan2055> grizzly: Yeah, that would work.
#934 [20:14] <grizzly> hrmmm..reccomend any good texture packs for inspiration? i already looked at misa, and the high defintion packs, and I liked the steampunk with the dokucraft..
#935 [20:15] <Nathan2055> grizzly: You might try,
#936 [20:15] <grizzly> oh and the summer fields one...
#937 [20:15] * Nathan2055 tries to remember the name...
#937 [20:15] <Nathan2055> Uh...
#938 [20:15] <Nathan2055> Let me check.
#939 [20:15] <grizzly> ROFL welcome to my world
#940 [20:15] <grizzly> my memory is shot
#941 [20:16] <Nathan2055> Found it!
#942 [20:17] <Nathan2055> Defscape: http://miburl.com/5w9Tdv
#943 [20:17] <grizzly> will have to look into that one :) thanks :)
#944 [20:17] <Nathan2055> Any time!
#945 [20:18] <grizzly> bleh...gotta jet now,, gotta help the neighbor :)
#946 [20:18] <Nathan2055> See you!
#947 [20:19] <Pepper> Hm
#948 [20:19] <Pepper> I'm going to go download the 512x Misa and see what's it like
#949 [20:19] <Pepper> Compared to sphax
#950 [20:20] <Nathan2055> Pepper: Can I ask you a question?
#951 [20:20] <Pepper> Hmm?
#952 [20:20] <Nathan2055> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/882548/
#953 [20:20] <Nathan2055> Why is my wheat not growing?
#954 [20:21] <Pepper> Probably went far enough away the chunk was unloaded
#955 [20:21] <Nathan2055> Hmm...
#956 [20:21] * Nathan2055 recalls the new biome indicator said I had gone over two biomes away. That's a big branch mine
#956 [20:22] * Nathan2055 loves the new indicator
#956 [20:23] <Pepper> lol I know what little project I should do
#957 [20:23] <Pepper> Make blocks that change the biome of the column you place them in, when you place them
#958 [20:23] <Nathan2055> As a mod?
#959 [20:24] <Pepper> Of course
#960 [20:24] <Nathan2055> Cool.
#961 [20:25] <Nathan2055> Speaking of mods, I wonder if the five mods I'
#962 [20:25] <Nathan2055> Ugh, hit the enter key while typing.
#963 [20:25] <Nathan2055> ...I'm looking into have updated?
#964 [20:25] <Pepper> Which?
#965 [20:26] <Nathan2055> BuildCraft + Forestry, IndustrialCraft, and Equivalent Exchange. (Plus the major add-on packs for those mods)
#966 [20:28] <Pepper> BC has a prerelease out
#967 [20:30] <Nathan2055> I try to keep things stable.
#968 [20:30] <Nathan2055> (except for RedPower, but it's basically out)
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#970 [20:30] <HelpMe> Help Me Please
#971 [20:30] <HelpMe> Here's my MC error when I start the game
#972 [20:30] <HelpMe> http://pastie.org/3589953
#973 [20:33] <HelpMe> Please
#974 [20:33] <HelpMe> I reinstalled MC and Tried updating Java still doesnt work
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#977 [20:37] <Hereward> Hi, guys. Just a quick question: I've got two plugins (AdminCMD, WorldEdit) which compete for the use of a command (/fly). Is there any way that I can specify which I'd like to use?
#978 [20:37] <Pepper> Hereward: We don't generally help with mods here; if these are Bukkit plugins, try asking in #bukkit
#979 [20:38] <Hereward> Thanks, Pepper :)
#980 [20:38] <Pepper> Sure thing
#981 [20:38] <Pepper> Sure thing
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#987 [21:34] <silencer4311> YO
#988 [21:34] <silencer4311> is anyone on here
#989 [21:38] <langkid1> hi
#990 [21:38] <langkid1> ?aks
#991 [21:38] <langkid1> ?ask
#992 [21:39] <langkid1> ?? ask
#993 [21:39] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#994 [21:39] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#995 [21:40] <silencer4311> oh sorry i was afk
#996 [21:41] <Monkeys> If I want to reset everything (all the players start from pure scratch and a brand new world) put keep all the same plugins, same whitelist, same settings, etc. can I just delete the worlds folders?
#997 [21:41] <silencer4311> i was just checking if my friend was here because she said she needed help with something
#998 [21:41] <silencer4311> so i wanted to make sure she got here
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#1002 [21:45] <mib_hi9haw> hello can you please help with launch4j error
#1003 [21:45] <mib_hi9haw> with minecraft
#1004 [21:46] <firedawg> please help me with launch4j error
#1005 [21:48] <DiskDaemon> ?ask
#1006 [21:48] <firedawg> please help me with launch4j error
#1007 [21:48] <DiskDaemon> What sort of error?
#1008 [21:48] <firedawg> starting up error
#1009 [21:49] <DiskDaemon> DO you have an error log?
#1010 [21:49] <firedawg> no
#1011 [21:50] <DiskDaemon> mcerror is a program by znospəɯ (With help from ɓuıʞıɹ and GUI by ɐnblɐɯ!) to log Minecraft's output and errors view the source and download on GitHub! http://bit.ly/t154lG
#1012 [21:50] <firedawg> ?
#1013 [21:51] <DiskDaemon> What sort of startup error are you having with launch4j?
#1014 [21:52] <Monkeys> http://pastebin.com/dbqtAaSa What's with the "unknown packet 56" error?
#1015 [21:53] <Pepper> ModLoader MP, I think
#1016 [21:53] <Monkeys> ModLoader MP?
#1017 [21:53] <Pepper> Oh, spout
#1018 [21:53] <Pepper> No idea then
#1019 [21:53] <Monkeys> Yeah.
#1020 [21:53] <Monkeys> Oh.
#1021 [21:53] <Monkeys> Okay, well thank you anyhow. :)
#1022 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> There is a #spout channel that might know better too
#1023 [21:53] <Pepper> ^
#1024 [21:53] <Pepper> I should start paying attention to that channel; I've been idling for months now
#1025 [21:55] <firedawg> like it wont open it just gives me a page that says (the registery refers to a nonexistent Java Runtime Environment installation or the runtime is corrupted the system cannot find the path specified
#1026 [21:55] <firedawg> )
#1027 [21:56] <DiskDaemon> firedawg: Sounds like you should uninstall your java (from the control panel), delete the java folder, then reinstall a known working version of java
#1028 [21:57] <firedawg> it wont let me install it! it just says (Java is correpted you cannot proceed this installation)
#1029 [21:57] <DiskDaemon> You may not know how your java became broken, but you are being told in no uncertain terms that your java is broken. You need to remove the broken one first.
#1030 [21:58] <firedawg> ok thanks
#1031 [21:58] <firedawg> :)
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#1033 [22:03] <TheNoodle> ?<< win/dxdiag
#1034 [22:04] <TheNoodle> ??< win/dxdiag
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#1040 [23:35] <Monkeys> Found Bedrock, how many blocks upwards should I go to maximize my chances of finding sweet diamonds?
#1041 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> No more than a couple dozen
#1042 [23:37] <Monkeys> Whut.
#1043 [23:37] <Monkeys> Wasn't like 6?
#1044 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Diamond
#1045 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> "Diamond Ore can be mostly found at levels below 18, and is found in small veins of 1-9 together"
#1046 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> I think you may be thinking of redstone, can also be found very near bedrock as well
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#1049 [23:49] <m0nk> below 18 = from bedrock and up = ?
#1050 [23:50] <m0nk> or 18 from top?
#1051 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> Bedrock = 1.
#1052 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> sea level = 32
#1053 [23:51] <m0nk> k
#1054 [23:51] <Pepper> Sea level = 63*
#1055 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> er wait, 32 or 64, can't remember
#1056 [23:51] <m0nk> 64
#1057 [23:52] <m0nk> around 564
#1058 [23:52] <m0nk> ..
#1059 [23:52] <m0nk> 64
#1060 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, something like that
#1061 [23:52] <m0nk> sry spam
#1062 [23:52] <Pepper> 63 from zero index (as in the code)