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#10 [00:59] <skream> i need some help plz
#11 [01:03] <rev-lemon> with
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#14 [01:09] <skream> crev failed error
#15 [01:09] <skream> extremely annoying...
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#17 [01:17] <rev-lemon> hm, when you get that ?
#18 [01:27] <skream> ?
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#21 [01:50] <rev-lemon> failed crev ? you said failed error
#22 [01:55] <Scott> !check 107.8.93.95
#23 [01:58] <Eddie> !check 127.0.0.1
#24 [01:58] <Eddie> SHHHHHHHHH
#25 [01:59] <Eddie> I hate you too, VoxelHead
#26 [01:59] <Eddie> I hate you too, VoxelHead
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#31 [02:18] <rymate1234> !check 192.168.1.14
#32 [02:18] <rymate1234> I have no external IP! :3
#33 [02:21] <Magiobiwan> rymate1234: You are on a bouncer.
#34 [02:21] <Magiobiwan> With a bouncer's hostmask.
#35 [02:21] <rymate1234> yes lol
#36 [02:21] <Magiobiwan> So AuBot can't find your ip
#37 [02:22] <Magiobiwan> !kick rymate1234 Connect unbounded fool.
#38 [02:22] * AuBot kicked Magiobiwan from #minecrafthelp (Reason: agiobiwan :No. Just...No.)
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#40 [02:22] <Magiobiwan> Oh yeah...
#41 [02:22] <Magiobiwan> Forgot about that.
#42 [02:22] <rymate1234> ... fail
#43 [02:23] <Magiobiwan> Yep.
#44 [02:23] <Magiobiwan> ;kick rymate1234 will I get kicked for this?
#45 [02:23] <Magiobiwan> Apparently not.
#46 [02:24] <rymate1234> and apparently neither will I
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#48 [02:30] * TheNoodle wonders what happens if he does it
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#49 [02:35] <Herobrime> Hello
#50 [02:35] <Herobrime> Hello
#51 [02:35] <Herobrime> Hello...
#52 [02:36] <rymate1234> hello
#53 [02:36] <rymate1234> what seem to be the problem? :)
#54 [02:37] <rymate1234> Herobrime, ^
#55 [02:38] <Herobrime> I have a question about a char whitout eyes
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#57 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> If you want a custom skin, try minecraftskins.com
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#63 [03:35] <SinZ> GreyVulpine: I broke something on my computer physically, and I dont know what.
#64 [03:36] <rev-lemon> sinz what did you break and how did you go about doing that lol
#65 [03:36] <SinZ> Well, iv been having bluescreens, so I turned off pc, unplugged everything
#66 [03:36] <rev-lemon> ok
#67 [03:36] <SinZ> took out the ramstick that didnt appear to be fully in, put it back in
#68 [03:36] <SinZ> And now something doesnt work right
#69 [03:36] <rev-lemon> hm,
#70 [03:37] <rev-lemon> are you getting error beeps
#71 [03:37] <SinZ> think so, also taking three revs to get the front LEDS to change to the colour I set in bios
#72 [03:37] <SinZ> doesnt even send anything to monitor
#73 [03:38] <rev-lemon> hm, so the video card could be faulty ? check the connection on the pins for the plug and make sure bios is useing the correct video card
#74 [03:38] <SinZ> dont recall touching the video cards
#75 [03:39] <rev-lemon> the leds on the front of the case could be changed if its set up on the board correctly , i havent done such jobs before my self
#76 [03:39] <rev-lemon> what about in bio's
#77 [03:39] <rev-lemon> how many beeps are you getting before it stops and how long do the beeps come in from ?
#78 [03:43] <SinZ> well the nvidia fans are spinning on the graphics cards
#79 [03:44] <rev-lemon> sins how many graphics cards have you got in the machine and do you have an onboard one ?
#80 [03:46] <SinZ> two nvidia 8800 GT's in SLI and got an unknown onboard graphics
#81 [03:47] <rev-lemon> ok, so if the monitor is pluged up to any one of those two gphx cards it still doesnt stow up ?
#82 [03:48] <SinZ> nup
#83 [03:48] <rev-lemon> thats bad
#84 [03:49] <rev-lemon> ok, try taking one of the cards out, and testing it again
#85 [03:51] <SinZ> the light codes before loading the bios settings say faulty ram, after loading bios settings, replug in the graphics cards
#86 [03:52] <rev-lemon> hm, well you could have stuffed up one of the ram sticks and i hope that isnt the case
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#88 [03:56] <rev-lemon> sinz ?
#89 [03:57] <SinZ> oops =S
#90 [03:57] <SinZ> took out one too many ram sticks
#91 [03:57] <rev-lemon> lol
#92 [03:57] <rev-lemon> so its working again ?
#93 [03:58] <SinZ> nah, doesnt stop revving now
#94 [03:58] <SinZ> took out 1 and 3 I believe
#95 [03:58] <rev-lemon> so its duel boot with ram sticks ?
#96 [03:59] <Wug> SinZ: try one stick at a time
#97 [04:00] <rev-lemon> wug i dont think he can
#98 [04:00] <rev-lemon> lol
#99 [04:00] <Wug> well I have to go to bed
#100 [04:00] <rev-lemon> ok nn
#101 [04:00] <Wug> I have to be up in like 4 hours
#102 [04:01] <rev-lemon> you silly man
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#104 [04:02] <SinZ> rev-lemon: took out all the ram except 1, works again
#105 [04:03] <rev-lemon> lol ok at least you can test all ram sticks that way as well
#106 [04:03] <rev-lemon> :)
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#109 [04:04] <SinZ> 1,3 in, works <3
#110 [04:04] <mnjiman> i have a completely lit area, and sometimes a creeper appears
#111 [04:04] <mnjiman> is there something I am missing?
#112 [04:05] <rev-lemon> hm, is there a verry dark area near by ?
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#115 [04:06] <mnjiman> i over killed the torches
#116 [04:06] <mnjiman> any dark areas in a different room
#117 [04:06] <rev-lemon> so its geting in from there
#118 [04:07] <mnjiman> when i say different room
#119 [04:07] <mnjiman> i mean a sealed off area
#120 [04:07] <mnjiman> but i think i found the area anyways
#121 [04:07] <mnjiman> there was a dark patch on the far ceiling
#122 [04:08] <SinZ> Im so happy rev-lemon
#123 [04:08] <SinZ> Im doing memtest now, and its not spamming errors
#124 [04:08] <SinZ> used to spam errors
#125 [04:08] <SinZ> sure i've got half my ram out...
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#127 [04:10] <rev-lemon> neet
#128 [04:10] <rev-lemon> well at least now you can see which ones are the damaged ones or not, good for you dude
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#130 [04:33] <SinZ> rev-lemon: first time touching ram
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#133 [04:42] <SinZ> rev-lemon: yay, memtest finished, no errors on my first 4gb ram
#134 [04:44] <crab> hi, im running mc 1.2.3 multiplayer using both osx (snow leopard) and ubuntu clients.
#135 [04:44] <rev-lemon> nice one sinz
#136 [04:45] <SinZ> ah fuck, DIMM3 failed
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#139 [04:45] <crab> ive built a very long track and im unable to ride it without out of memory errors.
#140 [04:45] <crab> i found this thread:
#141 [04:45] <crab> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/289812-issues-with-really-long-rollercoasterminecart-track/
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#143 [04:46] <crab> ive ensured that the clients are using 64-bit java and ive dropped the view distance to "tiny"
#144 [04:46] <crab> the only thing ive not done is upgrade to java 7 (well i did try openjdk-7 on ubuntu but the client wouldnt run...)
#145 [04:46] <SinZ> crab: tried assigning java more ram
#146 [04:46] <rev-lemon> crab cant help you , not good with osx sorry
#147 [04:48] <crab> SinZ: hmmm. i had it set at 512 - 1024 on both (both machines have 2GB)
#148 [04:48] <crab> i hadnt tried increasing it.
#149 [04:48] <crab> i actually decreased it to 256 - 256 as i read somewhere that was all it needed.
#150 [04:48] <crab> ill have a play and see what happens.
#151 [04:54] <SinZ> Minecraft prefers 1gb ram
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#156 [05:14] <SinZ> rev-lemon: You know how to fix ram?
#157 [05:14] <rev-lemon> only way to fix it, replace it, you can like put
#158 [05:14] <rev-lemon> it though lke a defrag and make it stop useing the errors on the stick but your not going to fix it
#159 [05:15] <rev-lemon> like a defunt hd
#160 [05:15] <SinZ> dont feel like buying a 2gb DDR2 Ram stick, when I'm planning on building a new computer from scratch in a couple of months time
#161 [05:15] <rev-lemon> then hold off
#162 [05:15] <SinZ> which should have 16 or 32gb ram
#163 [05:16] <rev-lemon> hm, i say thats far too much but everyone now days things thats just basic
#164 [05:16] <rev-lemon> gay
#165 [05:16] <SinZ> Well, a 16gb ramdisk would be nice
#166 [05:16] <rev-lemon> ok
#167 [05:16] <SinZ> It'll go with a new AMD CPU, 8core 3.6GHz, or 4.2GHz turbo
#168 [05:17] <rev-lemon> well its up to you how you go about it, but more cores always good
#169 [05:17] <SinZ> not for minecraft really <3
#170 [05:18] <SinZ> from what iv seen and heard, single threaded
#171 [05:18] <rev-lemon> minecraft is a kettle of fish that needs work
#172 [05:18] <rev-lemon> lol
#173 [05:29] <SinZ> Atleast I found the problem with my ram...
#174 [05:29] <SinZ> still happy
#175 [05:29] <rev-lemon> true
#176 [05:29] <SinZ> was worried more then 2gb wasnt working
#177 [05:30] <SinZ> on test #8 of the ram, no errors yet
#178 [05:30] <rev-lemon> ok, looking good if its only one stick
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#189 [06:56] <SinZ> rev-lemon: yay, windows 7 now installs on it, due to the ram fix
#190 [06:56] <rev-lemon> lol
#191 [06:56] <rev-lemon> now thats even better what, win 7 didnt instll cause of ram gay
#192 [06:56] <SinZ> did. not. like. xp. 64bit.
#193 [06:56] <rev-lemon> oh,
#194 [06:56] <rev-lemon> oh,
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#196 [06:56] <rev-lemon> ok, nothing likes xp 64 bit
#197 [06:57] <SinZ> and java hates faulty ram
#198 [06:57] <rev-lemon> it hates everything :)
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#202 [07:01] * SinZ gives rev-lemon 1337 internets
#202 [07:01] <SinZ> ...and a cookie
#203 [07:01] <rev-lemon> bah, its ok, just a matter of what was up with your pc :)
#204 [07:02] <SinZ> waiting for windows to do the rating
#205 [07:02] <SinZ> so I can install wi-fi drivers
#206 [07:02] <rev-lemon> ok
#207 [07:03] <rev-lemon> whats a rateing ?
#208 [07:03] <SinZ> the Windows Experience Index
#209 [07:03] <rev-lemon> gay
#210 [07:03] <SinZ> rates your computer from 1.0 to 9.9
#211 [07:03] <SinZ> and is calculated by your worst performing score
#212 [07:03] <rev-lemon> windows experiance index WTF < more like get real Micro crap :P
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#214 [07:03] <rev-lemon> anyways
#215 [07:03] <rev-lemon> im off to bed, later :)
#216 [07:03] <SinZ> so almost guarenteed lower then 7.5 due to primary hard disk
#217 [07:04] <SinZ> cya
#218 [07:04] <rev-lemon> o
#219 [07:04] <rev-lemon> anyways, good luck
#220 [07:04] <SinZ> thanks, you gave it already
#221 [07:04] <rev-lemon> yup
#222 [07:04] <rev-lemon> :)
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#248 [07:23] <asfad> fdgfdgfdgfg fdgfdgfd gfdgfdgfd gfdgsfdgfd gfdsgfdgfdg fdgdfsgdf gfdgfdg sfdgfgfeh gjthjytjk thre fsdga sfdgfdgh fgnghntrf htrgsfd gfdgdfhghsfdsh sgfdg regsfdh sghfgh fgsheagdftg fdtgretg yreyefg dfgdfh trhtry regfdg fdgerg regth sfgasfdg astreg trhsfd gasg regh egredgjkfhduiggasrhdgjkhuigaehag srgeuiwehuighguo srdhguosdhguosdh
#249 [07:23] <asfad> fdgfdgfdgfg fdgfdgfd gfdgfdgfd gfdgsfdgfd gfdsgfdgfdg fdgdfsgdf gfdgfdg sfdgfgfeh gjthjytjk thre fsdga sfdgfdgh fgnghntrf htrgsfd gfdgdfhghsfdsh sgfdg regsfdh sghfgh fgsheagdftg fdtgretg yreyefg dfgdfh trhtry regfdg fdgerg regth sfgasfdg astreg trhsfd gasg regh egredgjkfhduiggasrhdgjkhuigaehag srgeuiwehuighguo srdhguosdhguosdh
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#253 [07:33] <bbbb> lol
#254 [07:34] <bbbb> dickless idiot
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#280 [10:26] <hirsty> Hey all is there a developer channel for minecraft?
#281 [10:27] <Grim_Reaper> Not that Im aware of
#282 [10:29] <hirsty> If not my question is i am wanting to put a minecraft applet on my website but i need to know how the password is hashed or how to connect to the minecraft server to has the password for me :) Basically, members log in, go to applet, my page sends request to minecraft net site for hashed password maybe or has it lovally i unno and then use that password within the applet
#283 [10:29] <hirsty> so essentially they can connect to my server only from our website
#284 [10:30] <Grim_Reaper> Not sure about that
#285 [10:30] <Grim_Reaper> I would ask on the minecraft forums
#286 [10:30] <Grim_Reaper> Also sounds.. somewhat dodgy :p
#287 [10:31] <hirsty> >.> i know they obv wont give me the salt they use
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#289 [10:31] <hirsty> just wondered if there was a method in receiving the hashed password ^^
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#291 [10:32] <Grim_Reaper> As I said. Try asking on the minecraft forums. I dont think anybody who does possibly know how on here, is here right now
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#298 [11:28] <fireme126> hello
#299 [11:28] <fireme126> can someone help me??
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#302 [11:29] <fireme126> hi
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#338 [14:40] <JoOb> Hey
#339 [14:41] <JoOb> someone can help me? I can't connect to minecraft
#340 [14:43] <Cory__> That's extremely vague. Do you get an error?
#341 [14:43] <JoOb> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Loading update news..</center></font></body></html>
#342 [14:44] <JoOb> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect</center></font></body></html>
#343 [14:44] <JoOb> i've the newest version of java 64bit
#344 [14:45] <Pepper> That's a known issue with the client
#345 [14:45] <Pepper> You should be able to login fine
#346 [14:45] <Cory__> ^
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#348 [14:47] <Pepper> You should still be able to login fine
#349 [14:49] <JoOb> but i can't login to the minecraft client
#350 [14:49] <Cory__> What error do you get when clicking the "Login" button?
#351 [14:50] <JoOb> if i try to connect, i get the error "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
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#353 [14:52] <Morrolan> JoOb - Chances are your security software is disallowing Minecraft from connecting to the Internet.
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#355 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> Or they're running java 7
#356 [14:54] <sugoi> JoOb: ^, connections are due to (in order of liklihood) 1. software blocked (anti-virus usually), 2. java issue (use 6), 3. bad client (hacked or otherwise broken, reinstall it), 4. network cable unplugged :)
#357 [14:55] <sugoi> y'all agree? :)
#358 [14:55] <sugoi> save #4, just being funny, tho no one laughed probably
#359 [14:55] <JoOb> i'll try it :-)
#360 [14:56] <Pepper> Too tired
#361 [14:56] * sugoi notes that you can tell when he's 'being funnny' when he's the only one laughing
#361 [14:56] * GreyVulpine pats sugoi over the head
#361 [14:56] <sugoi> :)
#362 [14:59] <JoOb> i'll come back if don't work thank you guys
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#365 [15:10] <Brian> haller
#366 [15:10] <Brian> Can I get vanilla minecraft texture pack in hd?
#367 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> Not unless you retexture it yourself
#368 [15:10] <Brian> hum.
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#371 [15:31] <ixxlikexxpie> hello
#372 [15:31] <ixxlikexxpie> hello
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#374 [15:37] <mickster04> hi
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#382 [16:22] <Kinge> my friends cant connect locally to me if i make a server on minecraft however if they make one i am able to connect to them
#383 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> LAN server?
#384 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Check firewall/security software
#385 [16:23] <Kinge> i did put to allow minecraft through the firewall on my pc
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#387 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> What firewall do you use?
#388 [16:23] <Gir> Hello
#389 [16:24] <Kinge> i tried portforwarding through my router however i have bt home hub v3.0 and it doesnt seem to work
#390 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Ah, if your friend is connecting from the outside, you'll need to port forward correctly
#391 [16:24] <Kinge> no its inside
#392 [16:24] <Gir> I have a quick question. How do i view screenshots?
#393 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Gir - What operating system?
#394 [16:24] <Gir> Windows 7
#395 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> gir - Screenshots are saved in %appdata%/.minecraft/screenshots
#396 [16:25] <Gir> Thank you. Have a nice day.
#397 [16:25] <Gir> Thank you. Have a nice day.
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#401 [16:31] <aojiki> hi guys, im having a problem fixing the black screen
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#403 [16:32] <aojiki> ive tried deleting the folders and installing again, also tried forcing update and to no avail.
#404 [16:32] <aojiki> hello can anyone help?
#405 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? What version of minecraft are you playing/
#406 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> Has minecraft ever worked for you before on that computer?
#407 [16:33] <aojiki> the latest
#408 [16:34] <aojiki> yes minecraft was fine untill i did update for a mod
#409 [16:34] <aojiki> it was also working for the mod untill the latest fix
#410 [16:34] <aojiki> im on windows vista
#411 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> That would be why. Whenever minecraft updates, mods break until they're updated by their creator as well
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#413 [16:35] <aojiki> yh but i have removed the mod and deleted all the folders and also forced updated on minecraft still black screen
#414 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#415 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder, delete everything inside except for saves, then run minecraft again
#416 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Also, redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#417 [16:37] <aojiki> updated packages still black screen
#418 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> Could you look at the %appdata%/.minecraft/ folder, and tell me if you see all the typical minecraft files there?
#419 [16:38] <aojiki> ok i have, bin resources saves stats texturepacks last login and options
#420 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Alright. And in the bin folder?
#421 [16:39] <aojiki> natvies, jinput lwjgl lwjjl_util md5s minecraft version
#422 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that looks complete.
#423 [16:40] <aojiki> i have the latest graphics card drivers and java
#424 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Could you uninstall java and reinstall it?
#425 [16:41] <aojiki> i did like 10 mins ago
#426 [16:42] <aojiki> i didnt uninstall it tho i just reinstalled
#427 [16:42] <aojiki> because it said i had that version so i just reinstalled
#428 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> I'd uninstall it complete, to ensure a clean install
#429 [16:43] <aojiki> where can i uninstall it? add or remove programmes?
#430 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#431 [16:44] <aojiki> im gonna have to come back
#432 [16:44] <aojiki> need to close internet
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#434 [16:48] <aojiki> did fresh install
#435 [16:48] <aojiki> still black screen
#436 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#437 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Could you follow these instructions: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#438 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> When minecraft tries to run in the cmd prompt, it'll output some debug info. Copy that to pastebin.com and share the URL here.
#439 [16:51] <aojiki> when i went to delete mojang files it says they where corrupt
#440 [16:51] <aojiki> ok
#441 [16:56] <aojiki> got it
#442 [16:56] <aojiki> http://pastebin.com/MBMPDnZw
#443 [16:56] <sugoi> 256M max?
#444 [16:56] <sugoi> aojiki: that's smells like trouble
#445 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Nah
#446 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> That's a corrupt minecraft.jar
#447 [16:57] <aojiki> yh it said that minecraft.jar was currupt?
#448 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Go back to %appdata%/.minecraft/, go into the /bin/ folder and delete minecraft.jar
#449 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to delete it, or does it say anything?
#450 [16:58] <sugoi> aojiki: have you been unmodding and modding?
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#452 [16:58] <aojiki> is that the file that is just minecraft?
#453 [16:58] <aojiki> ok i deleted it
#454 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Delete the version file in /bin as well.
#455 [16:59] <aojiki> ok done that aswell
#456 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download and run that launcher
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#458 [17:00] <aojiki> ok im trying to log in downloading packages
#459 [17:00] <aojiki> well it says updating
#460 [17:01] <aojiki> hmm it apprears stuck
#461 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> What is it stuck on?
#462 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.jar?
#463 [17:01] <aojiki> extracting windows_natives.jar
#464 [17:01] <aojiki> izma
#465 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> What AV do you run?
#466 [17:02] <aojiki> dont have one LAWL
#467 [17:02] <sugoi> aojiki: t'sokay, i've never had one
#468 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure?
#469 [17:02] <aojiki> erm well im using one atm
#470 [17:02] <aojiki> malwarebytes
#471 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> That's not an antivirus.
#472 [17:03] <aojiki> then none
#473 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Could you run the .bat file and pastebin the results again?
#474 [17:04] <aojiki> kk
#475 [17:05] <aojiki> http://pastebin.com/9h7FqFLh
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#477 [17:06] <silvdbosch> hi
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#481 [17:14] <aojiki> seen anything like this before vulpine?
#482 [17:14] <aojiki> seen anything like this before vulpine?
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#484 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Erm, did you download minecraft.jar from the website and place it in the %appdata%/.minecraft/bin/ folder?
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#486 [17:17] <TheNytangel> Hello Grey
#487 [17:17] <aojiki> no
#488 [17:17] <aojiki> i dont think so
#489 [17:18] <aojiki> i put it in a new folder
#490 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Delete the bin folder in %appdata%/.minecraft/
#491 [17:20] <Wug> aojiki: have you tried force updating
#492 [17:20] <aojiki> yes ive tried force update
#493 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the minecraft.jar launcher from minecraft.net/download
#494 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Place it in the spot where you have the .bat file
#495 [17:20] <Wug> hmm ack
#496 [17:20] <Wug> what was ack
#497 [17:21] <Wug> aojiki: delete servers.dat
#498 [17:21] <aojiki> yh its in the spot where the bat file is now
#499 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> aojiki's deleted .minecraft/ multiple times
#500 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> Run the .bat file, give me the output again
#501 [17:22] <Wug> it's encountering the error when it attempts to load the server list
#502 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Mrah?
#503 [17:23] <aojiki> http://pastebin.com/e4LZQ35s
#504 [17:23] <Wug> it looks like its working
#505 [17:23] <aojiki> i can click on stuff in minecraft but not see anything
#506 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Bwah?
#507 [17:27] <Wug> aojiki: try restarting?
#508 [17:27] <aojiki> the game?
#509 [17:27] <Wug> the computer
#510 [17:27] <Wug> if it works but you cant see anything, that might be a weird problem that will go away if you restart
#511 [17:28] <aojiki> but it was still black before i restarted
#512 [17:28] <aojiki> meh il try it brb
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#514 [17:45] <TheNytangel> Hmm
#515 [17:45] <mickster04> ?
#516 [17:45] <TheNytangel> Wug, do you know where the www folder is on a VPS?
#517 [17:45] <Wug> /var/www
#518 [17:45] <Wug> probably
#519 [17:45] <TheNytangel> Huh
#520 [17:46] <Wug> thats the apache default anyway
#521 [17:46] <TheNytangel> I don't have one for some reason
#522 [17:46] <Wug> find / | grep www
#523 [17:46] <TheNytangel> Wut
#524 [17:46] <Cory__> TheNytangel- Do you know what webserver it is?
#525 [17:46] <mickster04> which OS is on the VPS?
#526 [17:46] <TheNytangel> Something that starts with a C.... CentOS
#527 [17:46] <Wug> TheNytangel: that will list all files in the filesystem that have www in the name
#528 [17:46] <mickster04> by default it is /var/www/ though
#529 [17:47] <Cory__> <Wug> find / | grep www
#530 [17:47] <mickster04> ^
#531 [17:48] <TheNytangel> Looks like there is no www folder...
#532 [17:48] <Cory__> Try find / | grep htdocs
#533 [17:49] <TheNytangel> Nothing
#534 [17:49] <Cory__> service httpd status
#535 [17:49] <TheNytangel> Wug, fix it
#536 [17:49] <TheNytangel> :P
#537 [17:50] <xales> TheNytangel: Look in apache config, look in /srv
#538 [17:50] <xales> :p
#539 [17:50] <xales> (nothing uses /var/www/ any more, to my knowledge)
#540 [17:50] <TheNytangel> There is nothing in /srv
#541 [17:50] <Cory__> xales- apache2 does
#542 [17:50] <xales> TheNytangel: Is there a webserver running?
#543 [17:50] <xales> Cory__: Nope, it defaults to /srv/http in the shipped configs.
#544 [17:50] <TheNytangel> And I believe Apache is not set up yet
#545 [17:51] <Cory__> Ah, since when?
#546 [17:51] <xales> TheNytangel: Then you won't /have/ such a folder.
#547 [17:51] <TheNytangel> xales: that's what I'm trying to do is set one up..
#548 [17:51] <xales> Cory__: A while now.
#549 [17:51] <TheNytangel> You should have said that in the first place..
#550 [17:51] <xales> TheNytangel: You need to configure the webserver then.
#551 [17:51] <TheNytangel> Apache first?
#552 [17:51] <xales> If you want to use Apache.
#553 [17:52] <TheNytangel> I'll use Apache
#554 [17:52] <TheNytangel> *sigh*
#555 [17:52] <TheNytangel> I have no idea what I'm doing....
#556 [17:53] <TheNytangel> Wug or xales, step by step instructions?
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#558 [17:54] <xales> TheNytangel: http://library.linode.com/web-servers/apache
#559 [17:54] <TheNytangel> xales: webmin has a link here to have it install using YUM...
#560 [17:54] <xales> :|
#561 [17:55] <TheNytangel> Wo
#562 [17:55] <TheNytangel> Install complete
#563 [17:55] <xales> TheNytangel: I have to go shortly. I'll be back in ~30 minutes if you want me to help you with it.
#564 [17:56] <Cory__> TheNytangel- I would suggest using webmin if you don't understand linux commands and don't want to ruin your system :P
#565 [17:57] <TheNytangel> There
#566 [17:57] <TheNytangel> Brb...
#567 [17:57] <TheNytangel> Back
#568 [17:58] <TheNytangel> Anyways, yes, I am using Webmin, and it created the var/www folder
#569 [17:59] <TheNytangel> Now what...
#570 [17:59] <Cory__> Now you have a web server.
#571 [17:59] <Cory__> Congrats.
#572 [17:59] <TheNytangel> Do I want PHP...
#573 [17:59] <Cory__> If so, you have to install it and restart apache
#574 [18:00] <TheNytangel> What about a MySQL Database server...
#575 [18:00] <Cory__> Let's try this first.. What are you using the web server for?
#576 [18:00] <TheNytangel> A web... site?
#577 [18:01] <Cory__> What kind of website?
#578 [18:01] <Cory__> If it's static html, you don't need a DB or php
#579 [18:01] <TheNytangel> The kind people visit
#580 [18:01] <TheNytangel> Static html, no.
#581 [18:01] * TheNytangel needs a DP and PHP
#581 [18:02] * Boreeas takes a P from the TheNytangel and puts a B in its place
#581 [18:03] * TheNytangel thanks Boreeas
#581 [18:03] <TheNytangel> :P
#582 [18:03] <mickster04> :D
#583 [18:03] <TheNytangel> Anyways, where do I get the php.ini file
#584 [18:03] <xales> TheNytangel: See PM >.>
#585 [18:04] <Boreeas> I tried to set up mysql once, and failed horribly
#586 [18:04] <TheNytangel> I just did what xales told me not to and clicked a few buttons.. and now it's installed :D
#587 [18:04] <Cory__> It's pretty easy after you fail at it twice
#588 [18:05] <TheNytangel> And it looks like I'll be waiting 30 minutes
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#590 [18:09] <Zixt> Hello. I'm having an issue joining certain servers (generally happens with those with 40 players+ online. Error log is at http://pastebin.com/FHZ9WYvw
#591 [18:09] <Zixt> If anybody could point me in the right direction to fixing it that'd be great.
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#595 [18:30] <madalynn> hello?
#596 [18:30] <mickster04> hi
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#602 [18:40] <Toasty> Hey Guys, I'm setting up a server running Bukkit, and i am currently looking for some help with Sorting out Plugins, Multiverse, Perms ect. Most of it is done, but just need some tweaks and stuff. If anyone is interested, PM me here in the IRC :)
#603 [18:40] <xales> Perhaps #bukkit is a better place to ask.
#604 [18:40] <Boreeas> #bukkit for th- xales, dammit
#605 [18:40] <mickster04> :D
#606 [18:40] <Toasty> ive asked in #bukkit #minecraft and now here :)
#607 [18:41] <Boreeas> Toasty: Don't ask the same thing in multiple channels. Ask in one, wait if you get a reply, if no one can help you, /then/ you can move on to the next one
#608 [18:41] <Toasty> ok
#609 [18:41] <Toasty> sorry
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#611 [18:50] <Zixt> Hello. I'm having an issue joining certain servers (generally happens with those with 40 players+ online. Error log is at http://pastebin.com/FHZ9WYvw
#612 [18:52] <mickster04> Zixt: has it ever worked?
#613 [18:52] <mickster04> as in has an update broken it?
#614 [18:52] <mickster04> any mods added etc?
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#616 [19:01] <Boreeas> So, the stack traces comes down to Renderer, RenderItem and renderEntity, so I guess it is a) An unpatched HD texture pack, b) A client mod which adds entities or c) A serverside mod which adds entities which the client can't handle
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#636 [20:48] <MC> hey all! What is the best way to make an ever expanding pit of Lava?
#637 [20:48] <MC> I'm trying to make a bed area that is low enough away from all the creepers and surround it in lava so the people sleeping there can't be bothered by creepers.
#638 [20:49] <MC> How would I go about doing that?
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#640 [20:50] <xales> MC: Define "ever expanding"
#641 [20:52] <MC> ok well, when you place a block of lava... it only flows so far from that initial block... is there a way to get it to flow farther? without placing lava blocks in every blockspace until it's full...
#642 [20:52] <xales> If it goes down a level, it will start again. Otherwise, no.
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#644 [20:56] <MC> oh. :/ well that sucks. oh well.
#645 [20:56] <MC> thanks anyways! :)
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#648 [21:07] <almostroot> My nick dereg'ed. O.o
#649 [21:09] <TheNytangel> So did mine
#650 [21:09] <TheNytangel> But I don't care, I just came here for help with my VPS ;)
#651 [21:09] <Pepper> 2 weeks, I believe it is
#652 [21:09] <almostroot> Awww. No more op for me.
#653 [21:10] <almostroot> TheNytangel: What's up with your VPS?
#654 [21:10] <almostroot> !op
#655 [21:16] <hello> I purchased MC quite awhile ago and could not get it to run on my computer. I now have a new computer and just DLed the client but it is giving me an error
#656 [21:16] <hello> at the login
#657 [21:17] <Scott> perhaps you could say the error
#658 [21:17] <hello> it only says login failed
#659 [21:18] <hello> i can log into the website just not the actual game
#660 [21:19] <almostroot> hello: In the area above the Username and Password box, does it display Minecraft News, or a bunch of HTML code?
#661 [21:20] <hello> It has the news
#662 [21:23] <almostroot> hello: Try playing
#663 [21:23] <almostroot> minecraft in your browser here: http://www.minecraft.net/play
#664 [21:23] <hello> it is saying I need to purchase the game.
#665 [21:24] <hello> i bought it when it was still in beta i believe
#666 [21:24] <almostroot> hello: What is your Minecraft username?
#667 [21:24] <hello> RecyclesarusRex
#668 [21:24] <almostroot> !paid RecyclesarusRex
#669 [21:25] <Omega_Guardian> last I heard the valid account checker thing might be a bit borked
#670 [21:25] <almostroot> hello: Verify that you received the confirmation e-mail stating that your account is premium.
#671 [21:25] <hello> i just recovered my password. it says i am a premium user
#672 [21:25] <Omega_Guardian> not sure if it handles uppercase right
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#674 [21:26] <hello> the email says the accounts for my email are *RecyclesarusRex* then RecyclesaurusRex and it says (premium!) under that
#675 [21:26] <almostroot> hello: But with that username, in the web browser, it informs you that you have purchased the game?
#676 [21:26] <dougztr> Hi there. If I get minecraft is that good enough so my family can play together on the lan or do I have to pay for each and every person seperately?
#677 [21:27] <almostroot> dougztr: Accounts are per person, but are independent from the computer, meaning you can install it multiple times.
#678 [21:27] <hello> When i click to play in browser it directs me to a buy now link.
#679 [21:28] <dougztr> so if we can get a "family account" we could run a local server and have a couple of us logged in?
#680 [21:28] <almostroot> dougztr: The stock server verifies that only one instance of an account be be logged into a server at a time.
#681 [21:29] <almostroot> dougztr: can be*
#682 [21:29] <almostroot> dougztr: You would have to run the server in "offline" mode, which means that it would not verify usernames.
#683 [21:29] <dougztr> almostroot: so they could play individually, but not together
#684 [21:29] <almostroot> dougztr: (Assuming that it hasn't changed since 1.1)
#685 [21:30] <almostroot> dougztr: That means that if you buy a single account, only one person can use that account on a server at a time. It would give an error if another user attempted to log in.
#686 [21:31] <almostroot> hello: That generally means that the payment never went through. See if you can find the original e-mail stating that your account is now premium.
#687 [21:33] <almostroot> hello: In addition to that, find the e-mail receipt of the transaction when you bought the game. From Moneybrokers, PayPal, etc.
#688 [21:33] <almostroot> hello: Also, check out this webpage for more information, and a link at the bottom to contact Mojang if needed. http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-i-was-premium-now-i-m-not-
#689 [21:34] <hello> when i have this information, should i come back here? or email someone else?
#690 [21:34] <almostroot> Hmm, two beta. gift codes left over for Minecraft.
#691 [21:35] <almostroot> hello: Look at the page I linked above, it contains more information, as well as a link to a contact form for Mojang. (The orange HERE at the bottom.)
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#693 [21:36] <hello> excellent, thank you.
#694 [21:36] <dglearner> hi everyone
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#696 [21:37] <almostroot> !help
#697 [21:38] <almostroot> !op almostroot
#698 [21:38] <dglearner> is anyone here able to help with modloader? my 10 year old has been trying to install this, but we are having some difficulty tracking down the right file to download (i am a novice)
#699 [21:38] <Pepper> dglearner: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20629262/Latest/ModLoader.zip
#700 [21:38] <dglearner> thank you!
#701 [21:39] <Pepper> Mhm
#702 [21:40] <almostroot> !kick almostroot
#703 [21:40] * AuBot kicked almostroot from #minecrafthelp (Reason: lmostroot :You are the weakest link, goodbye! (Issued by almostroot with reason: None given.))
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#705 [21:40] <dougztr> almostroot:
#706 [21:40] <almostroot> At least I can still do that, lol.
#707 [21:40] <dougztr> almostroot: sorry mistell
#708 [21:40] <almostroot> dougztr: Yes?
#709 [21:40] <dougztr> banged enter to wake up my machine and it hilighted you lol
#710 [21:41] <Omega_Guardian> caps lock might work better, cause it doesn't activate stuff like enter would
#711 [21:42] <almostroot> dougztr: That's because I am so highlightable.
#712 [21:42] <Omega_Guardian> especially when you keep hitting it cause the computer decides it's gonna take 5 minutes to come outta standby
#713 [21:43] <almostroot> !k almostroot
#714 [21:43] <dougztr> Thats kinda disappointing about the no-family-fun. Minecraft is expensive. I'd like to play with the kiddo but I can't afford 2 copies because I suck. I guess we will get the small one an account unless there is a multi-account discount
#715 [21:44] <Omega_Guardian> Notch or Jeb might be able to do that cause they the Powers That Be
#716 [21:45] <clarjon1> ;check 75-1-195-60.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net
#717 [21:45] <dougztr> Omega_Guardian: send them an email?
#718 [21:45] <clarjon1> hm
#719 [21:45] <almostroot> dougztr: As far as I know, there isn't. If you aren't evil pirating scum, you could buy one copy, log in and install it on multiple computers in your home, then create a private server and add/change offline=yes
#720 [21:45] <Omega_Guardian> thats what I'd do
#721 [21:46] <almostroot> dougztr: The flag is "online-mode=" without quotes. Sorry. You would change it to online-mode=false
#722 [21:46] <dougztr> almostroot: if I was an evil pirating scum, I wouldn't even be asking would I. And I know the unofficial policy too.
#723 [21:46] <almostroot> dougztr: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties
#724 [21:46] <dougztr> almostroot: ok thats good to know
#725 [21:47] <dougztr> thanks for the advice everybody!
#726 [21:47] <almostroot> dougztr: That is information about the config file for a Minecraft server that you would have to change. Beware enabling port forwarding for your server in offline mode. Anyone can use any username, including an op.
#727 [21:48] <dougztr> almostroot: yeah I run exactly one game server and thats for neverwinter nights. thanks for the warning
#728 [21:49] <dougztr> is the game client pure java i.e. run in linux too?
#729 [21:49] <almostroot> dougztr: Yes. Java. Even runs well with OpenJDK, but Oracle Java is recommended to eliminate issues.
#730 [21:51] <dougztr> almostroot: just curious, I run a mini gentoo farm of toy microservers, and i do have a full blown gentoo desktop, but i play games too much and boot up win7 mostly
#731 [21:52] <dougztr> i don't think i have oracle java anymore, icedtea seems to come to mind
#732 [21:53] <almostroot> I remember printing out the complete Gentoo installation manual once around 2003.
#733 [21:53] <dougztr> almostroot: O_o
#734 [21:53] <almostroot> It was the better part of a ream of paper.
#735 [21:54] <dougztr> almostroot: ideally a newb would boot the cdrom, load up links in graphics mode for a cheap n sleazy browser to read the manual, then switch to a different virtual console and do the stuff
#736 [21:54] <almostroot> dougztr: I would assume OpenJDK/IcedTea would be more than adequate in most situations, especially for a server. If you do encounter issues, consider installing the proprietary Java to see if they are resolved.
#737 [21:55] <almostroot> dougztr: I had a boss with a dead tree fetish.
#738 [21:55] <dougztr> the slick way is make 2 partitions, install ubuntu or something on a small one, then open an xterm and do a chroot install of gentoo on the other partition with the full luxury of ubuntu while you work, then you wipe ubuntu when you are done :D
#739 [21:56] <almostroot> dougztr: Virtualization and deployment scripts.
#740 [21:57] <dougztr> almostroot: yeah thats the new way, i need to learn more virtualization. I have only used it to emulate other architectures for cross-compiling purposes. I'd love to be able to toggle between windows and linux
#741 [21:57] <almostroot> I realized my need to tone down the ridiculous hardware when I had a .01% CPU usage on a four-way.
#742 [21:59] <dougztr> i have aging phenom which still runs great for me, and i've built dual core x64 machines for the kids and my wife. my house is like a computer lab
#743 [22:00] <dougztr> i actually have the slowest machine in the house, but the only quad
#744 [22:01] <dougztr> then again, i do a lot of compiling in linux, so i really get the benefit of the quad. everybody else just plays games so they need more GHz
#745 [22:01] <dougztr> then again, i do a lot of compiling in linux, so i really get the benefit of the quad. everybody else just plays games so they need more GHz
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#747 [22:02] <dougztr> almostroot: ok nice chatting with ya. I'm heading back to #gentoo-chat on freenode. ttyl
#748 [22:02] <almostroot> dougztr: Take care.
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#750 [22:04] <badmojo> I keep getting "read timed out" about 20 seconds after joining any server, reinstall mc?
#751 [22:04] <badmojo> was playing fine until about 20mins ago
#752 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Try joining the server smp.shadow-craft.net
#753 [22:05] <Pepper> :O that's shadow's server
#754 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#755 [22:06] <badmojo> looks like it worked
#756 [22:06] <badmojo> oh there it goes
#757 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Then try connecting to the server that's giving you the error
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#759 [22:06] <badmojo> no it timed out there also
#760 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, if you're getting read timed out, you'll need to contact that server's admin, have them remove the player.dat file from the server
#761 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> It's most likely corrupted, giving you a read timed out
#762 [22:07] <badmojo> it does it on every server tho
#763 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> You said it worked on smp.shadow-craft.net
#764 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Try s.nerd.nu
#765 [22:07] <badmojo> for about 15seconds it worked
#766 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Then there's some sort of firewall or security software filtering connections from minecraft
#767 [22:09] * almostroot waves to GreyVulpine.
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#768 [22:12] <badmojo> seems like it fixed itself, thanks for the help
#769 [22:22] * GreyVulpine waves to almostroot
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#770 [22:24] <DrPastah> hey
#771 [22:24] <DrPastah> Why is my redstone getting burned out here: http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6267/xorgaters.jpg
#772 [22:24] <DrPastah> my redstone torch that is
#773 [22:25] <clarjon1> yeah
#774 [22:25] <DrPastah> and after i destroy it
#775 [22:25] <Pepper> Why is it off? Because the block it's attached to is powered
#776 [22:25] <DrPastah> after i destroy the burnt out redstone torch and destroy the circuit with it
#777 [22:26] <DrPastah> for some reason levers attached to a block of dirt with a redstone torch attached to it, they get burned out instantly
#778 [22:26] <DrPastah> in that chunk
#779 [22:26] <DrPastah> i have no idea why this is happening
#780 [22:27] <DrPastah> I have to destroy all the block of dirt i worked on
#781 [22:27] <DrPastah> to make it unglitch
#782 [22:27] <DrPastah> unglitched*
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#785 [22:28] <DrPastah> was it because it was not attached to anything to power on?
#786 [22:28] <Guest60785> hmm
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#790 [22:40] <M1n3cr4ftr> why hasnt the stupid lighting but where my hand and chests spaz dark and light?
#791 [22:40] <M1n3cr4ftr> or how do i fix it
#792 [22:40] <Pandaofchaotica> I cant get my port to open on my computer. Opened it on the router, even in Windowsfirewall but it will not connect and the port checker I've used still says it is closed to my external IP. What can I do to get it to open?
#793 [22:40] <Guest60785> Pandaofchaotica: which port
#794 [22:41] <Guest60785> ;check Pandaofchaotica
#795 [22:41] <Guest60785> !check Pandaofchaotica
#796 [22:41] <almostroot> Pandaofchaotica: Can you connect to your server from a different computer inside of your own network?
#797 [22:41] <Pandaofchaotica> Custom port since my router doesn't go up to 65565, so I'm using 65535
#798 [22:41] <Guest60785> asdasdas
#799 [22:41] <Pandaofchaotica> Nope, not from any computer in the house or even to my own server.
#800 [22:42] <almostroot> Pandaofchaotica: Are you running the server on your computer or a separate computer?
#801 [22:42] <Pandaofchaotica> the same computer i'm trying to open the port from; this computer.
#802 [22:42] <Guest60785> Pandaofchaotica: they only go up to 65535 anyway
#803 [22:43] <DrPastah> how do you make it that 1 button opens 2 pistons
#804 [22:43] <DrPastah> but another button only opens 1 of those pistons?
#805 [22:43] <Guest60785> DrPastah: connect them with redstone
#806 [22:43] <DrPastah> i can't get the other button to open only one
#807 [22:43] <DrPastah> it opens both of them
#808 [22:43] <Pandaofchaotica> Then why is minecraft default 65565?
#809 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> It's not default 65565, it's 25565
#810 [22:43] <Pandaofchaotica> oh okay.
#811 [22:44] <M1n3cr4ftr> is there anyway to stop my hand and chests to stop going dark and light? IT NEVER STOPS
#812 [22:44] <Pandaofchaotica> Odd when i first got the file it said 65565.
#813 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#814 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> It's always 25565. Has been since alpha
#815 [22:44] <Pandaofchaotica> Let me give it another shot, if it doesnt work, mind if I come back for more help?
#816 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> That's what we're here for
#817 [22:45] <Pandaofchaotica> Thank you, thank you greatly.
#818 [22:45] <M1n3cr4ftr> so are you here to help me to?
#819 [22:45] * GreyVulpine nods
#819 [22:46] * M1n3cr4ftr wait for an answer
#819 [22:46] <DrPastah> any help with what i'm trying to do with redstone?
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#821 [22:47] <Guest60785> too slow aubot
#822 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe I fully understand your problem M1n3cr4ftr
#823 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> When's it going black?
#824 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> DrPastah - Got a picture of what you're trying to do somewhere?
#825 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Or a server?
#826 [22:47] <DrPastah> actually i think the up and down elevator tutorial might help me
#827 [22:48] <M1n3cr4ftr> whenever i look around chests and my hand go dark and light
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#829 [22:48] <langkid1> oh I hate that bug
#830 [22:48] <Pandaofchaotica> Awesome! Thank you for catching my error ^.^ Minecraft is open, Really appreciate the help
#831 [22:49] <M1n3cr4ftr> other people dont have it so why do I?
#832 [22:50] <M1n3cr4ftr> here is a vid of what is happening...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stPUoZfF394
#833 [22:50] <Wug> lets see, where else was wugbot
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#835 [22:52] <M1n3cr4ftr> sooo you dont know why it does this...?
#836 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> M1n3cr4ftr - What version of minecraft are you on?
#837 [22:53] <M1n3cr4ftr> 1.2.3
#838 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> That's strange. the lighting bug should've been fixed
#839 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> (again)
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#841 [22:53] <M1n3cr4ftr> not for me ive redownloaded the jar and such also
#842 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Do a force update.
#843 [22:55] <M1n3cr4ftr> nothing changed
#844 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> Are you doing anything special with the video options?
#845 [22:56] <M1n3cr4ftr> the in game options? i have them on min, ive tried all of them
#846 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> Fast or fancy?
#847 [22:57] <M1n3cr4ftr> fast, on fancy it freaks out very fast between light and dark when im not even moving
#848 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> Very strange. Your video drivers up to date?
#849 [22:58] <M1n3cr4ftr> i dont know, or know how to check, got this computer in october
#850 [22:59] <almostroot> M1n3cr4ftr: Know if you have an AMD, NVIDIA or Intel graphics card?
#851 [22:59] <mickster04> M1n3cr4ftr: right click on my computer>properties
#852 [22:59] <mickster04> that might tell you
#853 [22:59] <M1n3cr4ftr> i have Intel and AMD, you can switch between the 2 i believe, its a laptop
#854 [23:02] <almostroot> M1n3cr4ftr: Your computer manufacturer may not allow driers from anywhere but them, but you can check Intel here: http://www.intel.com/support/detect.htm?iid=dc_spotlight_dctop10 and AMD here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#855 [23:05] <M1n3cr4ftr> im scared of messing with these drivers, after updating them on my old pc is got bsod lol but ill try
#856 [23:05] <Wug> chances are it will fix the weird lighting issues
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#858 [23:10] <M1n3cr4ftr> the intel sight just has the install bar moving and nothing seems to be happening, the amd one worken and ill install later
#859 [23:11] <M1n3cr4ftr> thanks for the help, wouldve never checked this without help, thanks :)
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#861 [23:20] <pandaofchaotica> Okay, so got my server up and running, just got the craftbukkit.jar and my run.bin up, but since I added Bukkit it stays at logging in for myself and wont show connection for anyone else.
#862 [23:21] <pandaofchaotica> Wait, nvm i think i installed the wrong craftbukkit.
#863 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that'll happen when you install 1.1 for RB, but connect with 1.2.3
#864 [23:23] <pandaofchaotica> Yeah thought the wiki would be up to date and then Gf reminded me there is a much newer one now.
#865 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> You'll generally want the latest build from: http://dl.bukkit.org/downloads/craftbukkit/
#866 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> Considering there's not a stable build out for 1.2.3 yet, for bukkit
#867 [23:23] <pandaofchaotica> Thanks, and true. however saw a tweet from Jeb, they are hoping to be done with current bukkit build by thursday
#868 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> Ah, good to know. Haven't kept up to date on jeb's tweets
#869 [23:25] <pandaofchaotica> Saw it when I was checking mine. Dont follow many people
#870 [23:25] <pandaofchaotica> so easy to see those XD
#871 [23:25] <pandaofchaotica> So, which build should i use, the beta 1.2.3-RO.2 or the latest 1.2.3-RO.3
#872 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Really, up to you. It's dependent on what plugins you need as well. Some plugins may not be compatible with the latest build
#873 [23:27] <pandaofchaotica> Just essentials to start and ill test the others as i find ones i want.
#874 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll need to read over essentials, see if there's any adverse effects from running the latest build
#875 [23:28] <pandaofchaotica> Kk, I know it runs on beta, Ill check their page to see if it works.
#876 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> Looks like it's compatible with 03: http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/essentials/
#877 [23:29] <pandaofchaotica> Oh thanks for the link Grey :)
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#879 [23:37] <pandaofchaotica> Would anyone be willing to test getting into my server? my gf cant get in but i can launch it and get in. Testing to make sure Bukkit works with launching before getting essentials.
#880 [23:38] <mickster04> ;check pandaofchaotica
#881 [23:38] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: host-76-11-221-196.newwavecomm.net:25565 (Timed out)
#882 [23:38] <mickster04> pandaofchaotica: whats the ip?
#883 [23:38] <pandaofchaotica> >< never mind just checked my port status and its closed, again.
#884 [23:39] <pandaofchaotica> Server IP
#885 [23:39] <pandaofchaotica> lets see if its open yet
#886 [23:42] <pandaofchaotica> 76.11.221.196
#887 [23:42] <pandaofchaotica> sorry thought i put it up
#888 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> ;check pandaofchaotica
#889 [23:42] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: host-76-11-221-196.newwavecomm.net:25565 (Timed out)
#890 [23:42] * GreyVulpine shakes
#890 [23:43] <pandaofchaotica> Checked router port forward and windows firewall forwarding.
#891 [23:44] <pandaofchaotica> Is there something i need to do int he .bat file so it keeps the port open?
#892 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, as long as the server's running, the port should be open
#893 [23:45] <pandaofchaotica> let me run it one more time and then do a test
#894 [23:46] <pandaofchaotica> nope still says its closed
#895 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Recheck port forwarding, recheck firewall/security software?
#896 [23:46] <pandaofchaotica> First thing i did before i came here and even after coming here i checked it.
#897 [23:47] <mickster04> ;check 76.11.221.196
#898 [23:47] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 76.11.221.196:25565 (Timed out)
#899 [23:47] <pandaofchaotica> Up til I added bukkit and edited the run.bat it worked, after that it closed.
#900 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Did you modify server.properties at all?
#901 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to connect to it locally?
#902 [23:48] <pandaofchaotica> Other then changing the port a few times now it says 25565, thats it and yeah i can connect locally but no one else can.
#903 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Recheck that you're port forwarding to the right local IP address?
#904 [23:49] <pandaofchaotica> let me make sure
#905 [23:50] <pandaofchaotica> yup, using the IP its been using
#906 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> What ip would that be?
#907 [23:52] <pandaofchaotica> my computers IP
#908 [23:52] <pandaofchaotica> Same one it used when it did connect before bukkit
#909 [23:52] <pandaofchaotica> or do i need to change it to my router IP?
#910 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> No.
#911 [23:53] <pandaofchaotica> kk
#912 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to connect to the IP address that you listed for the port forwarding rule?
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#914 [23:54] <pandaofchaotica> the external IP?
#915 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> No, the internal ip address that you used for the port forwarding rule
#916 [23:55] <pandaofchaotica> Really dumb question, how do i check if i can connect to it?
#917 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> What is the ip address that you listed for the port forwarding rule?
#918 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> You port forwarded port 25565 to what IP?
#919 [23:55] <pandaofchaotica> My computers IP
#920 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> Which is?
#921 [23:56] <DrPastah> if you add a repeater one after the other, does it make the signal go over 15 redstone without using repeaters?
#922 [23:56] <DrPastah> i mean
#923 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> DrPastah - No
#924 [23:56] <DrPastah> do repeaters stack?
#925 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> The max a signal will propagate between repeaters is 15 blocks
#926 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Doubling a repeater will not make it go 30. It'll still only go 15 after the last repeater
#927 [23:57] <DrPastah> thanks GreyVulpine
#928 [23:58] <pandaofchaotica> Would rather not give my computers IP on an IRC i know it makes it harder to help.
#929 [23:58] <zkxs> We already know your IP...
#930 [23:58] <DrPastah> is it possible to make a redstone signal spiral within itself?
#931 [23:58] <pandaofchaotica> yeah i know, external ip connected to the other IP.
#932 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> An internal IP address can not be used for any mischievous action. It's not a publically accessible address
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#934 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> I can tell you my computer's internal ip address is 192.168.1.101. Nobody can do anything with it
#935 [23:59] <pandaofchaotica> 192.168.1.3 IP using the port forwarding