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#3 [00:09] <Chris|Phone> ??< fubar/hamachi
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#7 [00:55] <KA_Gamer> I don't know if any of you remember me, but hi. I helped here for a weekend about a year ago
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#16 [02:22] <Tostieno> Hi
#17 [02:22] <Tostieno> Hi
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#31 [04:12] <mr_pants> i didnt recieve a purchase confirmation email after i purchased the game
#32 [04:12] <Finamenon> sometimes takes up to an hour
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#41 [04:53] <Jaxobs> Hey. I've got problems with MineCraft textures. Stone shows three icons on them. Two with fire and one netherportal-like. Why is that, and how could I possibly fix it? I've tried several different texture packs and it always shows up, but not with the vanilla textures.
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#45 [05:11] <mr_pants> have waited 5 hours now still no confirmation email
#46 [05:12] <mr_pants> how long does it usually take?
#47 [05:13] <Jaxobs> Have you checked your spam folder?
#48 [05:14] <mr_pants> yes
#49 [05:14] <mr_pants> i've bought it 2 times
#50 [05:14] <mr_pants> still nothin
#51 [05:14] <mr_pants> how long did it take b4 you got premium?
#52 [05:15] <Jaxobs> A minute.
#53 [05:15] <mr_pants> oh..
#54 [05:16] <mr_pants> when did you download it?
#55 [05:16] <mr_pants> i mean buy it?
#56 [05:16] <Jaxobs> I'm not entirely sure. A week before 1.0 was released.
#57 [05:17] <mr_pants> oh thats why
#58 [05:18] <Jaxobs> It makes a difference?
#59 [05:18] <mr_pants> i think its because theres been a huge increase in purchases
#60 [05:18] <mr_pants> and the dev cant handle too many
#61 [05:19] <Jaxobs> I don't think that's it. the process is automated afaik.
#62 [05:19] <mr_pants> theres been 7000 downloads in the last 24 hrs
#63 [05:19] <mr_pants> hmm..
#64 [05:20] <Jaxobs> That's 291 an hour. or 4 a minute. The servers can deal with that.
#65 [05:20] <mr_pants> oh ok
#66 [05:20] <Jaxobs> A thousand a minute could be a problem. :
#67 [05:20] <Jaxobs> :P
#68 [05:21] <mr_pants> hmm...
#69 [05:21] <mr_pants> i triple checked all the details while making the purchases
#70 [05:21] <Jaxobs> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#71 [05:21] <mr_pants> yea
#72 [05:21] <Jaxobs> "Most of the time, you will receive your premium status immediately. However, some payments (like bank transfers) can take 3-5 business days."
#73 [05:21] <mr_pants> i tried that
#74 [05:22] <mr_pants> i've been searching the internet for hrs for a solution
#75 [05:22] <Jaxobs> Did you pay with a creditcard or through bank transfer/paypal?
#76 [05:22] <mr_pants> credit
#77 [05:22] <mr_pants> i looked at the forums and stuff
#78 [05:23] <Jaxobs> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329521-what-if-something-went-wrong- Tried this?
#79 [05:23] <mr_pants> yes
#80 [05:23] <mr_pants> i looked at all of those
#81 [05:23] <mr_pants> non helped
#82 [05:23] <Jaxobs> Did you write them?
#83 [05:23] <mr_pants> ?
#84 [05:23] <Jaxobs> That last link isn't for fixing your stuff manually. It's for writing the MineCraft guys and girls so they can fix it for you!
#85 [05:24] <mr_pants> yea i wrote one
#86 [05:24] <Jaxobs> Tell them your account name. Tell them what your problem is. Tell them when you payed for it. Sit back and wait. :)
#87 [05:24] <mr_pants> it says that theres gonna be a huge delay
#88 [05:24] <Jaxobs> So you received an answer?
#89 [05:24] <mr_pants> no
#90 [05:24] <Jaxobs> Is the delay you speak of related to the answer?
#91 [05:24] <mr_pants> after i wrote it said that it might take a few weeks
#92 [05:25] <mr_pants> for them to reply
#93 [05:26] <mr_pants> it said that on march 15 they were checking emails that were sent feb 5
#94 [05:26] <Jaxobs> That's harsh, but I assume they'll grab these problems before others. Like; "OMG MY PICKAXES WONT CHOP WOOD GOOD PLZ FIX" vs. "I tried buying your game, but it doesn't upgrade." I think I know which one I'd give priority.
#95 [05:26] <mr_pants> on my catagory
#96 [05:26] <Jaxobs> Did you receive a transaction ID in mail?
#97 [05:26] <mr_pants> no
#98 [05:26] <mr_pants> thats the problem
#99 [05:27] <mr_pants> i didnt get an email
#100 [05:27] <mr_pants> but i sent the letter anyways
#101 [05:27] <Jaxobs> Just for the heck of it, I have to ask. Did you buy it through MineCraft.net, or did you purchase it from any other site?
#102 [05:28] <mr_pants> minecraft.net
#103 [05:28] <mr_pants> i read heaps of forums that said to make sure i dowloaded the game there
#104 [05:28] <Jaxobs> Good.
#105 [05:28] <mr_pants> b4 i bought minecraft
#106 [05:29] <mr_pants> i think the transaction didnt go through
#107 [05:29] <mr_pants> i dont think it got through
#108 [05:29] <Jaxobs> Double check your spam-folder for emails from Mojang.
#109 [05:29] <mr_pants> 6 hours now and still no email
#110 [05:30] <mr_pants> i quadruple checked
#111 [05:30] <Jaxobs> That's sadly the last suggestion I've got. :(
#112 [05:30] <mr_pants> well thnx
#113 [05:30] <Jaxobs> Would be nice if the ops were present! :p
#114 [05:30] <mr_pants> yea
#115 [05:30] <mr_pants> was hoping that
#116 [05:30] <mr_pants> :(
#117 [05:31] <mr_pants> im just gonna w8 for a couple more hrs
#118 [05:32] <mr_pants> and i better get a refund for my second purchase
#119 [05:33] <Jaxobs> You probably will. And in any case, you can complain to your card service provider and joink the money back forcefully if everything else fails.
#120 [05:35] <mr_pants> haha ok thnx
#121 [05:35] <mr_pants> im jus gonna stay here until some1 arrives
#122 [05:35] <mr_pants> this site was recommended on the forums if i needed help
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#124 [05:36] <mr_pants> wow jus noticed how gay my name is
#125 [05:37] <mr_pants> gotta change
#126 [05:37] <mr_pants> wth mr pants?
#127 [05:37] <mr_pants> brb
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#129 [05:38] <cookiethief> thats better
#130 [05:38] <cookiethief> can anyone here help me?
#131 [05:38] <cookiethief> ops
#132 [05:38] <cookiethief> ?
#133 [05:39] <rev-lemon> with ?
#134 [05:39] <cookiethief> getting premium
#135 [05:39] <cookiethief> i bought the game
#136 [05:40] <cookiethief> been w8ing 6 hours
#137 [05:40] <cookiethief> for a confirmation email
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#139 [05:40] <rev-lemon> bah, try and login and play via broswer or client and see what happens, could be longer depends has the money been taken ?
#140 [05:41] <cookiethief> yes
#141 [05:41] <cookiethief> i've tried all of those
#142 [05:41] <rev-lemon> when was the last time you checked the game ?
#143 [05:41] <cookiethief> few mins ago
#144 [05:41] <cookiethief> jaxobs
#145 [05:41] <rev-lemon> and no go
#146 [05:41] <cookiethief> nope
#147 [05:42] <rev-lemon> hm, your just going to have to wait
#148 [05:42] <cookiethief> i know its takes 2 day sometimes
#149 [05:43] <cookiethief> but forums said those are rare
#150 [05:43] <rev-lemon> time zomes and depends on how long it takes mojang to complete teh transaction
#151 [05:43] <cookiethief> well, guess have to w8 till tommorow
#152 [05:44] <rev-lemon> maybe but oh well sorry
#153 [05:44] <cookiethief> gotta w8 for the ops
#154 [05:44] <cookiethief> gotta w8 for the ops
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#161 [06:36] <fredtheflourgrader> Downloaded minecraft.jar, execute java minecraft.jar and get error "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: minecraft/jar". Ubuntu 11.04. Any suggestions?
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#164 [06:38] <fredtheflourgrader> java -version says: java version "1.6.0_26"\nJava(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_26-b03)\nJava HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.1-b02, mixed mode)
#165 [06:40] <fredtheflourgrader> also tried: java minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame, similar error
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#167 [06:44] <fredtheflourgrader> There is a LauncherFrame.class in /net/minecraft in the jar file
#168 [06:45] <rev-lemon> linux , your java could be updated i think its closer now to 6.30 or over now, anyways, when do you get this error ?
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#170 [06:45] <fredtheflourgrader> Right at initial execution
#171 [06:46] <rev-lemon> is your minecraft modded ?
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#173 [06:46] <fredtheflourgrader> No, exactly as downloaded
#174 [06:47] <rev-lemon> when was the last time you updated have you got 1.2.3 ?
#175 [06:47] <fredtheflourgrader> 20 minutes ago, first time of trying
#176 [06:47] <rev-lemon> ok,
#177 [06:48] <rev-lemon> can you try via the web broswer for kicks , minecraft.net in broswer ?
#178 [06:48] <fredtheflourgrader> The java is showing as the most recent in the repository for natty
#179 [06:48] <fredtheflourgrader> ok will try. Does chrome work?
#180 [06:49] <rev-lemon> not sure what works with it, i know ie / firefox and i think only sometimes it works
#181 [06:49] <rev-lemon> you useing linux or windows ?
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#183 [06:50] <fredtheflourgrader> downloading packages now
#184 [06:50] <fredtheflourgrader> Linux
#185 [06:50] <rev-lemon> wired
#186 [06:50] <rev-lemon> i think that was the cause
#187 [06:50] <rev-lemon> lets see what happens
#188 [06:50] <fredtheflourgrader> white screen so far...
#189 [06:51] <rev-lemon> hm,
#190 [06:52] <rev-lemon> black screens. video / try going to java.com and see if theres a newer version of java ?
#191 [06:52] <fredtheflourgrader> Trying firefox
#192 [06:52] <fredtheflourgrader> Same result so far
#193 [06:52] <fredtheflourgrader> ok
#194 [06:53] <fredtheflourgrader> Downloading now
#195 [06:53] <rev-lemon> k
#196 [06:59] <fredtheflourgrader> Still Could not find the main class: minecraft.jar. Program will exit.
#197 [06:59] <fredtheflourgrader> 6u31
#198 [06:59] <rev-lemon> ok
#199 [06:59] <rev-lemon> goto %appdata%/.minecraft < and see how big the directory is
#200 [07:00] <rev-lemon> and i dont know how big its ment to be on linux
#201 [07:01] <fredtheflourgrader> 6752 blocks (1k)
#202 [07:01] <rev-lemon> 1k
#203 [07:01] <rev-lemon> hm
#204 [07:02] <rev-lemon> is that just the laucnher ?
#205 [07:02] <fredtheflourgrader> 6748 .minecraft/bin
#206 [07:02] <rev-lemon> oh so 6.7 meg sweet ok, getting there
#207 [07:02] <rev-lemon> do you see minecraft.jar in that /bin directory
#208 [07:02] <rev-lemon> ?
#209 [07:02] <rev-lemon> have you got firewall / antivuris on linux to stop programs runnin g ?
#210 [07:02] <fredtheflourgrader> I suspect that the attempt to play in the browser did those downloads
#211 [07:03] <rev-lemon> yes
#212 [07:03] <fredtheflourgrader> Viruses? what are they? Don't get those on Linux
#213 [07:03] <fredtheflourgrader> No anti virus
#214 [07:03] <rev-lemon> lol,
#215 [07:03] <rev-lemon> ok what about like a firewall of any type
#216 [07:03] <rev-lemon> some prog to stop you accessing stuff or running a program
#217 [07:04] <fredtheflourgrader> No active firewall, just a NAT router
#218 [07:04] <rev-lemon> could that be stoping it running ? i dont see how though, btw im no good with linux im just testing idears here
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#220 [07:05] <fredtheflourgrader> I wouldn't think so, it's a standard way of connecting
#221 [07:05] <rev-lemon> k
#222 [07:05] <rev-lemon> so see if the launcher will run now you have tryed in broswer
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#227 [07:13] <fredtheflourgrader> Sorry had to feed dogs. NO still the same, there must be something up with the jar file - it not even getting to first base
#228 [07:14] <rev-lemon> ok, well please stick around there are others that know linux much better than i
#229 [07:15] <fredtheflourgrader> Is there anyone around with a working Linux launcher?
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#233 [07:29] <fredtheflourgrader> Thanks for trying
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#241 [08:47] <Boreeas> fredtheflourgrader: Well, depends on how you define "launcher"
#242 [08:48] <Boreeas> fredtheflourgrader: How do you launch the launcher jar? Should be "java -jar /path/to/minecraft.jar"
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#248 [09:19] <fredtheflourgrader> Boreeas: Thanks, got a bit further, but now failing on an opengl problem, looks like I might need a later kernel. Tomorrow!
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#258 [10:10] <Wug> <fredtheflourgrader> Viruses? what are they? Don't get those on Linux
#259 [10:10] <Wug> HURRRRRRR
#260 [10:10] <Grim_Reaper> Hai wug \o
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#266 [10:46] <albru123> Sorry, but I can't found my question on help.minecraft.net. Is there some option, for change nickname in registred and buyed account?
#267 [10:46] <albru123> Sorry, but I can't found my question on help.minecraft.net. Is there some option, for change nickname in registred and buyed account?
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#270 [10:48] <Pepper> You can't change your Minecraft username
#271 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329522-how-do-i-create-a-username-
#272 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> "We do not currently support changing, editing, or correcting usernames. Make sure that you choose wisely; it will be used for both logging in, and your single/multiplayer persona."
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#274 [10:49] <albru123> OK, I want because my friend have account from his brother, can he migrate his account to another username??
#275 [10:50] <GreyVulpine> He can purchase another account, yes.
#276 [10:50] <albru123> register, or he must buy another one??
#277 [10:50] <GreyVulpine> He must buy another one.
#278 [10:51] <albru123> ok, thanks for help, see you again :-D
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#294 [12:35] <Ste7fan> I'm trying to put up a minecraft server but all the clients that are trying to connect are version 1.2.4, but I am running the server version 1.2.3. How do I get the server version 1.2.4?
#295 [12:35] <Ste7fan> I'm trying to put up a minecraft server but all the clients that are trying to connect are version 1.2.4, but I am running the server version 1.2.3. How do I get the server version 1.2.4?
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#299 [12:50] <sugoi> Steve[mbp]: go to minecraft.net/download to get the latest client/server
#300 [12:50] <sugoi> Steve[mbp]: ug, mistell - tab complete ste*
#301 [12:50] <sugoi> sorry
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#304 [13:03] <Steve[mbp]> lolol
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#308 [13:22] <charmander> hello everybody
#309 [13:24] <clarjon1> hi
#310 [13:24] <charmander> does anyone know of a minecraft-mapeditor that supports the 1.2 format anvil? the only one i found seems to be voxel sniper but it doesnt support copying.. any help would be appreciated
#311 [13:29] <oldtopman> charmander: mcedit has the support.
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#313 [13:31] <charmander> okay thank you. i read somewhere that it is not in development anymore.
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#315 [13:33] <cooldude> hello! how do I update my graphics card :3 and how do I kno what card I have
#316 [13:34] <charmander> hello. what operating sstem are you using?
#317 [13:34] <charmander> windows xp/7, linux, macOs?
#318 [13:34] <cooldude> windows 7 64 bit
#319 [13:36] <charmander> open the device manager and look what is used under 'display adapter'
#320 [13:37] <cooldude> theres 2 cards
#321 [13:37] <cooldude> you can chose like what programs use which cards i think
#322 [13:38] <cooldude> iim still having my lighting problem evein in 1.2.4 :(
#323 [13:39] <cooldude> so does it work If i just clik on the driver under the device manager and click update driver?
#324 [13:42] <charmander> unfortunatly not. what card do you have? ATI, Nvidia?
#325 [13:42] <cooldude> ati and intel
#326 [13:43] <cooldude> well AMD and intel
#327 [13:44] <charmander> go to amd.com and download the driver there
#328 [13:44] <cooldude> so I just download it? i dont need to do anything else
#329 [13:45] <charmander> of coause you have to start the downloaded file, install it and reboot your computer. but that should be all
#330 [13:46] <cooldude> ok ty :)
#331 [13:46] <cooldude> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx this good? <
#332 [13:46] <charmander> no problem
#333 [13:46] <charmander> yes looks good
#334 [13:47] <cooldude> ok i might be back if my computer still workd XD
#335 [13:47] <cooldude> works
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#337 [13:47] <charmander> well, see you than
#338 [13:49] <oldtopman> charmander: Yeah, they stopped developing it.
#339 [13:49] <oldtopman> But there's Anvil support.
#340 [13:50] <charmander> yes i saw in github that there was changes 9 days ago, so it doesnt look it is dead :)
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#342 [13:52] <saddude> bad news :'( didnt work
#343 [13:52] <saddude> my card is incompatible with the driver or something
#344 [13:53] <saddude> and it said contact your notebook manufacturer
#345 [13:53] <Calinou> uh?
#346 [13:53] <Calinou> have you chosen the right driver?
#347 [13:53] <saddude> i didt choose one it picked it for me
#348 [13:54] <charmander> strange. have you chosen the right product-line and model on the drivers page? have you choosen right architecture (65 bit)?
#349 [13:54] <Calinou> 65, derp
#350 [13:55] <charmander> 64 -_-
#351 [13:55] <Calinou> saddude: press Windows+R to open the "run" menu, type this: dxdiag
#352 [13:55] <saddude> and go to pastebin?
#353 [13:56] <saddude> http://pastebin.com/haCFJT2e
#354 [14:02] <saddude> whats the verdict doc?
#355 [14:04] * sugoi wants to upgrade his outdated 64bit cpu to 65bits!
#355 [14:04] <saddude> this is the problem im having, im on 1.2.4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stPUoZfF394&noredirect=1 i have tried updatin the video card but it failed and idk where to get the right dl for it
#356 [14:05] <Grim_Reaper> lol 65bits o.o
#357 [14:05] <sugoi> saddude: the gpu driver update failed? or it didn't help with your game play issue?
#358 [14:06] <sugoi> Grim_Reaper: it has twice the power!
#359 [14:06] <saddude> the update failed, said it was incompatible with my harware even though it picked the update itseld
#360 [14:06] <Grim_Reaper> But.. it's 1 bit more?
#361 [14:06] <saddude> iitself*
#362 [14:06] <sugoi> 2^64 * 2 = 2^65
#363 [14:06] <charmander> you are laughing now, but the extra bit makes everything better. megaherz, graphics and all the good stuff
#364 [14:06] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#365 [14:07] <Grim_Reaper> I see
#366 [14:07] <Grim_Reaper> Though 128bit ftw?
#367 [14:07] <sugoi> saddude: i don't think your driver software is wrong
#368 [14:07] <sugoi> saddude: so probably you got the wrong one
#369 [14:08] <charmander> :)
#370 [14:08] <sugoi> Grim_Reaper: :)
#371 [14:08] <saddude> HOW DO I GET WRONG ONE IF IT AUTO DETECTED IT AND PICKED IT ITSELF
#372 [14:09] <sugoi> saddude: well then _that_ software made a mistake more likely :) heh
#373 [14:09] <sugoi> either way, try it again, perhaps manually
#374 [14:09] <sugoi> you'll want .. man, where is your chipset!?
#375 [14:10] <charmander> i never used autodetect, figure out what model your card is and select it yourself. usualy you can get the name under device manager as i suggested. the dxdialog info is way too much for my taste ;)
#376 [14:10] <sugoi> charmander: i agree, but his dxdiag just says "intel hd graphics family", no chipset name...am i blind?
#377 [14:11] <saddude> its stupid says the chip is intel and manufacturer is ati :3
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#379 [14:12] <sugoi> saddude: well you could visit your manufacturer's site for the laptop, they'll have drivers too
#380 [14:13] <sugoi> and at least ther you can go by your model
#381 [14:15] <saddude> i did it manualy this time and the same thing happened
#382 [14:16] <saddude> "the version of my graphics adapter is not supported"
#383 [14:17] <saddude> WHY MEEEE I JUST WANT TO PLAY MINECRAFT!!!!! :'(
#384 [14:17] <charmander> try what sugio suggested and go to your notebook manufacturer website and download there
#385 [14:18] <saddude> i diiid and idk which thing to download theres a list of 50 different drivers for each thing on it
#386 [14:18] <charmander> this happes to everybody, you will get it fixed :)
#387 [14:18] * sugoi is estranged from his adopted latino brother, sugio
#387 [14:19] <charmander> download the newes one for your model
#388 [14:19] <saddude> whats a vga driver
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#390 [14:19] <charmander> ^not my day... 65 bit... sugio... whats next?
#391 [14:21] <saddude> so is downloading a VGA driver made by AMD on the acer site under my computer info right..?
#392 [14:22] <charmander> sounds good to me
#393 [14:22] <sugoi> saddude: you're going to want to match up as much info about your computer as you can
#394 [14:22] <sugoi> saddude: look for the best fit
#395 [14:22] <sugoi> it may take a little time, and even an email to acer support if you have trouble with their site
#396 [14:23] <saddude> well i just gave it all my computer info and model and what not and it gave me list of all different type of drivers
#397 [14:23] <sugoi> saddude: can you pastebin that list?
#398 [14:24] <charmander> yes, and you select only the one for your graphics card, vga is what you are looking for
#399 [14:25] <saddude> http://pastebin.com/TAXVxnRq the list--
#400 [14:25] <saddude> the very messy list
#401 [14:26] <saddude> hooooooly the vga driver has 2 hour dl time!
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#403 [14:28] <sugoi> so i see 2 vgas, nothing else appears to fit
#404 [14:28] <sugoi> the top one is a later version, to i'd use that first
#405 [14:28] <sugoi> and it is quite large :) 341.5 MB
#406 [14:28] <charmander> line 18. is the driver you have currently installed. line 2. is the one you want to try to install
#407 [14:29] <sugoi> charmander: good catch, didn't notice which he already had
#408 [14:29] <charmander> yes that is beacause amd drivers are bundled with the catalyst control center AFAIR
#409 [14:29] <charmander> sugoi: i just compared it to the dxinfo he posted erlyer
#410 [14:29] <saddude> 7mb/341 ill be here a while
#411 [14:29] <sugoi> charmander: right, which i didn't :) [had already closed that]
#412 [14:30] <saddude> brb im plugging into the internetz!
#413 [14:31] <saddude> back
#414 [14:31] <charmander> i am going to play a little bit. see u guys
#415 [14:31] <charmander> goodluck sadddude
#416 [14:31] <saddude> ty :)
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#418 [14:32] <saddude> the 1 hour dl time turn into 1 minute one i plug into the internet...lol
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#420 [14:33] <sugoi> saddude: that's bc wireless only run on 64 bits, you get an extra one when you're plugged in
#421 [14:33] <saddude> -_- lol
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#425 [14:52] <saddude> it done dling!!
#426 [14:53] <saddude> uhh, its a winrar thing, and jsut has a folder in it with stuff, how do i install it?
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#428 [14:55] <sugoi> saddude: i prefer 7zip
#429 [14:55] <sugoi> it pwns all
#430 [14:56] <saddude> well too late :P
#431 [14:56] <saddude> this file isnt very user friendly
#432 [14:57] <saddude> do I click setup.exe in the winrar file? theres a bunch of weird stuff
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#434 [14:59] <horrorduck> why cant i update useing the minecraft in game browser?
#435 [15:00] <DreadLindwyrm> What version are you on, and what happens when you try?
#436 [15:00] <horrorduck> am on no version
#437 [15:00] <horrorduck> and it just freezes
#438 [15:00] <saddude> sugoi: setup.exe? what i click?
#439 [15:00] <horrorduck> when its download it stays on like 10%?
#440 [15:00] <horrorduck> i left it on for an hoour and still noting
#441 [15:01] <DreadLindwyrm> Strange.
#442 [15:01] <horrorduck> did it let you update to 1.2.4?
#443 [15:02] <saddude> sugoi: im doing it helpppp me
#444 [15:02] <DreadLindwyrm> I hadn't seen that was released - I thought we were still 1.2.3
#445 [15:02] <DreadLindwyrm> bear with me.
#446 [15:02] <horrorduck> yea i deleted 1.2.3 to go to 1.2.4
#447 [15:02] <horrorduck> but itd acting gay
#448 [15:03] <DreadLindwyrm> It's updated fine for me. Why did you delete it though? It updates and overwrites.
#449 [15:04] <DreadLindwyrm> I think you'll need to redownload it from the website.
#450 [15:05] <horrorduck> i did and i have to delete my whole .minecraft folder in order to update cause minecraft is gay like that and sucks it coding fuck you you are no help as well as the rest of you useless nerds
#451 [15:05] * AuBot kicked horrorduck from #minecrafthelp (Reason: orrorduck :Please keep it civil.)
#452 [15:06] <saddude> lol
#453 [15:07] <DreadLindwyrm> Useful... I was only trying to help...
#454 [15:07] <rymate1234> I bet horrorduck had mods
#455 [15:08] <DreadLindwyrm> I'm finding I don't care.
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#457 [15:19] <sugoi> and now i'm back, wow - rage quit much?
#458 [15:19] <sugoi> and now sadddude is gone
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#460 [15:35] <CaelThunderwing> ummm. i couldnt remember my pass and i hit the Too many failed logins, i allready change dmy pass but how long am i blocked from logging in?
#461 [15:37] <oldtopman> CaelThunderwing: Sis you try restarting minecraft?
#462 [15:37] <oldtopman> Did*
#463 [15:37] <CaelThunderwing> yea
#464 [15:37] <CaelThunderwing> stil says too many failed logins
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#466 [15:42] <CaelThunderwing> umm am i banned from minecraft's login servers then?
#467 [15:43] <Calinou> no
#468 [15:43] <Calinou> wait a bit at worst
#469 [15:46] <CaelThunderwing> ahh there we go :3 was afraid i got banned ;-;
#470 [15:46] <CaelThunderwing> i cant afford almost another 30$
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#472 [15:49] <CaelThunderwing> O-o got Minecraft to run in a VM,
#473 [15:50] <CaelThunderwing> (Oracle VirtualBox)
#474 [15:50] <sugoi> CaelThunderwing: NO
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#476 [15:50] <CaelThunderwing> ?
#477 [15:50] * sugoi slaps CaelThunderwing with a smelly trout
#477 [15:50] <CaelThunderwing> using it in a virtual PC is bad?
#478 [15:50] <sugoi> CaelThunderwing: giving oracle ANY credit for vbox is blasphemy
#479 [15:50] * sugoi pisses on oracle
#479 [15:51] <CaelThunderwing> *whimpers like a dog *Owww
#480 [15:51] <CaelThunderwing> but the VM itself its working.
#481 [15:52] <sugoi> :) that's good
#482 [15:52] <sugoi> what purpose, btw?
#483 [15:52] <sugoi> just curious
#484 [15:52] <CaelThunderwing> Just to see if it works
#485 [15:53] <oldtopman> ??> CaelThunderwing win/reinst/bat
#486 [15:53] <VoxelHead> CaelThunderwing: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#487 [15:53] <VoxelHead> CaelThunderwing: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#488 [15:54] <oldtopman> That should fix your too many logins problem
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#490 [15:56] <CaelThunderwing> thanks
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#495 [16:42] <Wmbh38> Hi. Please help. Post your comments and more info at http://www.minecrafthelp.info/forums/index.php
#496 [16:42] <Wmbh38> My minecraft wont download
#497 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> And what happens when you try?
#498 [16:43] <Wmbh38> It freezes
#499 [16:43] <Wmbh38> It says on the site. :). It just wont non download/download.
#500 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> We don't run minecrafthelp.info
#501 [16:43] <Wmbh38> oh
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#503 [16:44] <Wmbh38> Well I'll say what it says. kk?
#504 [16:44] <jeremy> is there a direct link to the 1.2.4 jar file
#505 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> I'll pull it up, one moment
#506 [16:44] <Wmbh38> kk
#507 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> jeremy - It should download automatically with the launcher
#508 [16:45] <jeremy> ya but i dont have mc on this computer
#509 [16:45] <jeremy> and dont have java
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#511 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Then you wouldn't be able to run minecraft anyways.
#512 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft requires the launcher, as well as java being installed
#513 [16:45] <jeremy> i relize this
#514 [16:45] <jeremy> i make a program
#515 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Wmbh38 - What antivirus program do you have?
#516 [16:45] <jeremy> that sets the version
#517 [16:46] <jeremy> and all i need is the jar
#518 [16:46] <Wmbh38> AVG free
#519 [16:46] <jeremy> so i can add it to the program im making
#520 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Wmbh38 - AVG's been known to do this. Go into AVG's options, turn off the linkscanner module. Do the force update in minecraft again.
#521 [16:46] <Wmbh38> ok. I'll try and be back with the results
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#523 [16:52] <Wmbh38> Yessssss. Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou. Your the first person I've seen who cares! And it works!!!
#524 [16:52] * GreyVulpine nods
#524 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> happy to help
#525 [16:52] <mib_ifvhed> found a bug? : unable to place mushroom in creative mode - MCv1.2.4
#526 [16:52] <Wmbh38> :) :) :) Smileys for you :) :) :)
#527 [16:53] <Wmbh38> Well, Happy minecrafting GreyVulpine
#528 [16:53] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#528 [16:53] <Wmbh38> :)
#529 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> mib_ifvhed - You can file bug reports here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/latest
#530 [16:53] <mib_ifvhed> thanks GV
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#532 [16:58] <mib_7xpazn> Hey, i was wondering, after the update, i tried to play one of my multiplayer servers. It said the server was out of date, so i couldn't connect. Is the owner supposed of the server supposed to update, or am i supposed to do something or what?
#533 [16:59] <sugoi> mib_7xpazn: the server admin needs to update
#534 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> You're right. The owner of the server needs to update as well.
#535 [16:59] <mib_7xpazn> ok, thanks!
#536 [16:59] <sugoi> mib_7xpazn: if mod'd, that may not be right aawy
#537 [16:59] * sugoi is in that boat
#537 [16:59] <mib_7xpazn> Hm ok
#538 [16:59] <mib_7xpazn> ok thanks, bye :D
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#540 [17:02] <zelda> hey, this is the same person from before who asked about updating multiplayer servers. when i went to check the the server to see if it was updated, there were 6 people on it even though i can't get on? are those players or just admins updating it?
#541 [17:03] <xales> It means they have not yet updated their client.
#542 [17:04] <zelda> ah, ok
#543 [17:04] <zelda> thanks
#544 [17:07] * sugoi wonders if zelda was a hot elf
#544 [17:07] * sugoi hot elf chic*
#544 [17:07] * GreyVulpine snrks
#544 [17:10] <Pepper> http://i.imgur.com/eFoeB.jpg heh
#545 [17:10] <sugoi> sfw?
#546 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#547 [17:10] * Pepper doesn't post NSFW
#547 [17:11] <Pepper> And particularly not here, just in case
#548 [17:11] <sugoi> my screen FACES the breakroom
#549 [17:11] <sugoi> aweful spot, really
#550 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Oh joy
#551 [17:12] <Pepper> Aweful or awful?
#552 [17:13] <sugoi> no
#553 [17:13] <Pepper> Why does that look wrong ._.
#554 [17:13] <sugoi> ppl watch me code during their lunch
#555 [17:13] <sugoi> and they sit there, in awe
#556 [17:14] <Pepper> Haha
#557 [17:14] <Morrolan> Year 2000 compliant - cute.
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#561 [17:25] <sine> how can i start up my 1.2.3 server without updating it
#562 [17:26] <xales> The server does not automatically update.
#563 [17:27] <sugoi> sine: ditto to xales , you are free to start it without worry
#564 [17:38] <rev-lemon> mc updated yet again just found out wtf
#565 [17:38] <sine> hi
#566 [17:39] <sine> is there a update serve ?
#567 [17:39] <rev-lemon> there should be if you have updated
#568 [17:40] <sugoi> 'update serve' ?
#569 [17:40] <langkid1> xales, I think sine wants to know how to let 1.2.3 people connect without ruining bukkit plugins?
#570 [17:40] <sugoi> langkid1: you mean he wants 1.2.3 AND 1.2.4 to be able to connect without a server mod for that purpose?
#571 [17:40] <langkid1> ??????
#572 [17:41] <sine> no guys jeeze
#573 [17:42] <sine> the server does not auto update like the client
#574 [17:42] <sine> where can i get the updated server
#575 [17:42] <sine> me and a my buddy play on his comptuer
#576 [17:42] <sine> we are both now on 1.2.4
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#578 [17:42] <sine> but the server is on 1.2.3
#579 [17:42] <sugoi> sine: less flood
#580 [17:42] <langkid1> ah
#581 [17:42] <sine> shut up you boring nerd
#582 [17:43] <langkid1> >:( be nice
#583 [17:43] * sugoi slaps sine
#583 [17:43] <sugoi> sine: goto minecraft.net/download
#584 [17:43] <sugoi> it has clients and servers there
#585 [17:43] <langkid1> http://minecraft.net/download
#586 [17:43] <tma428> hi everyone
#587 [17:43] <sine> ok
#588 [17:44] <tma428> i've got a little issue with our minecraft server. since i don't have any ideas left, i'd be glad if someone could help :)
#589 [17:44] <xales> tma428: Nobody can help if you do not specify the issue
#590 [17:44] <langkid1> ?? ask
#591 [17:44] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#592 [17:44] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#593 [17:44] <sugoi> tma428: more info would help - but just a stab in the dark, version conflict? :) client on 1.2.4, server still on 1.2.3 (or older)
#594 [17:44] <tma428> xales: shouldn't i be polite and first ask, if someone is willing to help? ;)
#595 [17:45] <xales> tma428: If people weren't willing to help, they wouldn't be here
#596 [17:45] <mickster04> tma428: if people aren't willing to help, they'll just ignore you
#597 [17:45] <langkid1> while it may SEEM polite, IRC denizens find it a waste of time, if someone can answer they'll answer :)
#598 [17:45] <sugoi> tma428: expected irc-behavior is the 'just ask' policy
#599 [17:47] <NinjaKirby> tma428: what they said
#600 [17:47] <tma428> i see, thanks a lot :P has been a while, that i've used that irc stuff ;)) to my problem:
#601 [17:47] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: nice input
#602 [17:47] <sugoi> haah
#603 [17:47] <tma428> the server lost data... according to some players there should about 5 days data missing. i've checked the level.dat with a tool.. so far it doesn't seem to be broken
#604 [17:47] <NinjaKirby> Sugoi: :P I was just takin' the mick out of everyone saying the same thing
#605 [17:48] <sugoi> tma428: do you use mods with auto backup and recovery?
#606 [17:48] <tma428> the strange thing is, that the serverbackups (twice a day to a nas) all do have that lack of data
#607 [17:48] <tma428> no, we don't use mods.. neither on server, nor on client side
#608 [17:49] <sugoi> tma428: what "error" were you expecting to find/looking for when you "it doesn't seem to be broken"?
#609 [17:49] <tma428> thought it might be an issue with that server.lock file. but i couldn't open it.. so i don't know if it's broken
#610 [17:50] <sugoi> the lock file basically tells the dir that the server is running (unless killed out of process)
#611 [17:50] <tma428> sugoi: nothing specific... since i didn't know where to start.. i checked all files i could open ;)
#612 [17:50] * sugoi chuckles
#612 [17:50] <sugoi> tma428: if you are backing up on schedule, i assume you're using SOME tool, what tool/script?
#613 [17:51] <tma428> sugoi: a self written script, that does backups without stopping the server
#614 [17:52] <sugoi> tma428: not all data is written to the chunks during runtime, without putting the server into some read-only mode with all data flushed, you may experience lost data
#615 [17:52] <tma428> it just takes all files from the server dir, packs a tar (which takes usually less than a second). in a second step, it copies it to the nas
#616 [17:52] <sugoi> tho, you said backups are missing from your backup folder?
#617 [17:53] <sugoi> do you have a script that would reload a backup?
#618 [17:53] <tma428> no.. they just all have the same lack of data to that specific point :/
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#620 [17:53] <sugoi> lack of data in the game? or lack of data missing the last 5 days of files?
#621 [17:53] <tma428> no, since it's a small server, i haven't thought, we need a script to reinstall a backup
#622 [17:54] <tma428> lack of gamedata, the files are present
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#624 [17:54] <NinjaKirby> I thought there was a Server command one could en-act to run Backups whilst the server operates, but I'm probably mistaken.
#625 [17:55] <NinjaKirby> Pretty much disabled Map Saving or something.
#626 [17:55] <NinjaKirby> Thus presumably releasing the files.
#627 [17:55] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: i think so to, ppl use tools to invoke it
#628 [17:55] <keret> I just bought minecraft yesterday. Can anyone tell me how I play online with my friends? We just want to play in a world where we are the only people
#629 [17:56] <sugoi> tma428: did the server ever stop/crash and you had to restatr it?
#630 [17:56] <tma428> well.. the thing is: a player was online shortly before i stopped the server for the update today. afterwards the data was gone :/ but since all the stuff is saved, when the server is stopped.. i don't know, where the data was written to :)
#631 [17:56] <sugoi> keret: you'll need to run minecraft server (free)
#632 [17:56] <NinjaKirby> "Command: save-off - Disables the server writing to the world files. All changes will temporarily be queued."
#633 [17:56] <sugoi> keret: get it from http://minecraft.net/download
#634 [17:56] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: cool
#635 [17:56] <sugoi> tma428: how did you stop the server? you should be using the command `stop` on the server console
#636 [17:57] <tma428> i did so
#637 [17:57] <NinjaKirby> I guess whilst there is constantly modified data, not even a Shadow Copy will save you
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#639 [17:58] <sugoi> tma428: i'm not sure what to tell you, ive not heard people report issues like this due to mc, but rather it is bc of file mismanagement by the user
#640 [17:58] <tma428> sugoi: and no.. no servercrashs so far .. at least none i've seen in the logfile :)
#641 [17:58] <sugoi> well the server won't restart itself - so that'd be obvious
#642 [17:58] <sugoi> tma428: anyone else manage your server?
#643 [17:59] <sugoi> keret: will you be playing in the same house/
#644 [17:59] <sugoi> ?
#645 [18:00] <tma428> nope. i'm the only one, who got access.. at least i hope so ;)
#646 [18:00] <sugoi> heh
#647 [18:00] <sugoi> i would question this so called missing data :)
#648 [18:00] <sugoi> maybe your user is making it up
#649 [18:00] <keret> sugoi: No, we won't :)
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#652 [18:01] <tma428> sugoi: nope, since the one threatened to cry.. and the other is my brother next room.. well... no ;) they didn't made it up :)
#653 [18:01] <tma428> sugoi: but... thanks a lot :)
#654 [18:02] <sugoi> keret: 1. get the server from minecraft.net/download, 2. run the server on your LAN and test you can connect, 3. configure your router to forward 25565 (default port for minecraft) to the server machine (using the LAN ip), 4. share your public/global ip with your friends
#655 [18:02] <sugoi> tma428: :(
#656 [18:03] <sugoi> tma428: what is missing, btw?
#657 [18:03] <tma428> sugoi: since you wrote, that there are no reported issues of that type you've heard about.. i should check the hardware / the serverfiles :) i'm sure there's a loss of data.. maybe because of bad luck: copying the files, while the server wrote.. i don't know :)
#658 [18:04] <tma428> sugoi: some km of tunnel, stone, ore, nothing.. you couldn'd bring back. but i'm more worried about the fact, it could happen again ;)
#659 [18:04] <tma428> *couldn't ;)
#660 [18:05] <sugoi> tma428: hardward to alter world file in such a way that it still works and runs but minecraft-work is missing?
#661 [18:05] <sugoi> that sounds...about as possible as chemicals falling into place randomly to create dna (yes, i'm a theist)
#662 [18:06] <sugoi> hehe, ok, just messing around - anyways
#663 [18:07] <sugoi> it is highly unlikely
#664 [18:07] <tma428> ;)
#665 [18:07] <sugoi> if the work was REALLY done, and is now missing, either the actions weren't written to disk (mc bug), or the files were overwritten and an old file was loaded
#666 [18:07] <sugoi> if you've never loaded a backup
#667 [18:08] <sugoi> i suppose it is possible your backup script locked the file and mc failed to write the chunk update
#668 [18:08] <sugoi> depends on what type of file lock mc requests when persisting data to the chunk
#669 [18:08] <sugoi> at any rate, you should be putting minecraft into readonly mode during backup
#670 [18:08] <sugoi> as ninja suggested
#671 [18:09] <tma428> sugoi: since there is no backup-load-skript and i wasn't drunk / sleepwalking for a long time.. i'm quite sure, no backups were loaded :D thought about that server.lock file to be the reason for our problems. but since i don't know the exact mechanics behind it, i'm not sure about that..
#672 [18:09] <sugoi> the lock file is not the problem
#673 [18:10] <sugoi> that's another tool for another purpose
#674 [18:10] <sugoi> tma428: but, to feel safer for future repeats of this issue, but the server into readonly mode during backups
#675 [18:11] <tma428> sugoi: yep, thought about it. so far, that's no option since i'm quite a linux newbie :) have to re-/learn first, how to get processes into backround and then sending commands (as stop/safe-off) to it :)
#676 [18:11] <tma428> sugoi: ok :)
#677 [18:11] <sugoi> tma428: 1. readonly mode is a command you can use in the server console, 2. use `screen` on linux
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#679 [18:11] <NinjaKirby> As much as that Server command may work, I've never bothered trusting it. But I have the fortune of shutting down whenever without interupting players.
#680 [18:12] <sugoi> < NinjaKirby> "Command: save-off - Disables the server writing to the world files. All changes will temporarily be queued."
#681 [18:12] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: same here
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#683 [18:12] <sugoi> tma428: so what we're saying is, we've not used that command, we stop the server, backup, restart
#684 [18:12] <NinjaKirby> Additionally, the MC Wiki lists Save-On, and Save-All to force save in a save-disabled state I guess
#685 [18:12] <sugoi> but i know many servers keep running 24/7, and just use this readonly mode for backups
#686 [18:13] <sugoi> oh, nifty
#687 [18:13] <sugoi> i.e. flush
#688 [18:13] <tma428> mhm.. ok, thanks to both of you, sogoi & NinjaKirby :)
#689 [18:14] * sugoi laughs when he can tell when people aren't using tab complete
#689 [18:14] <NinjaKirby> Even if you can use the VolumeShadowCopy service for on-the-fly backup, I imagine the operating state of a Map wouldn't work properly anyway.
#690 [18:14] <sugoi> why not?
#691 [18:15] <sugoi> seems legit
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#693 [18:15] <rev-lemon> game breaks in smp if you try and change game modes lol
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#695 [18:15] <NinjaKirby> Yeah, well... I don't know the innards of MC, but you are making a duplicate whilst it's try to modify stuff, have everything queued and mid-transaction.
#696 [18:15] <sugoi> rev-lemon: 1.2.4 or mod'd?
#697 [18:16] <rev-lemon> 1.2.4
#698 [18:16] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: it may not be the exact timestamp you think it is, but theoritically, it is computationally possible
#699 [18:16] <rev-lemon> and i think friends running all latest bukkit updates 5 of em
#700 [18:16] <sugoi> rev-lemon: ug
#701 [18:16] <NinjaKirby> I know what I mean, lol.
#702 [18:16] <rev-lemon> yea i know sugoi
#703 [18:17] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: did i offend?
#704 [18:19] <NinjaKirby> lol, not at all
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#706 [18:20] <valgarto> Hi there. I just downloaded the latest pacht and now some blocks of my hd texture pack show little symbols of water and lava. This two blocks are now invisible.. Anyone else with that problem?
#707 [18:20] <sugoi> valgarto: that is because your client is no longer mod'd for hd tectures
#708 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> The hd texture is a mod. You'll need to wait for that to update
#709 [18:20] <sugoi> textures
#710 [18:20] <sugoi> valgarto: you'll need to mod your client again for hd textures (maybe wait for an update to your patcher tool for this purpose)
#711 [18:22] <valgarto> Thanks a lot, then i have to wait. Anyone a guess how many days it will take for the updates?
#712 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> Usually a few days
#713 [18:23] <sugoi> really depends on the version diff
#714 [18:23] <sugoi> minor version indicates minor change :) so less than a long time, but a little more than really fast
#715 [18:23] <sugoi> :)
#716 [18:23] * sugoi is awarded points for clarity
#716 [18:24] <Calinou> MCPatcher is backwards, _sometimes_ forwards compatible
#717 [18:24] <Calinou> if you use Optifine, you gonna wait. 8)
#718 [18:24] <sugoi> Calinou: true, which is why i actualy said "maybe wait" <- was intentional
#719 [18:24] <sugoi> but thank you for pointing that out
#720 [18:24] <valgarto> Ok, im a little impaitient. just started playing few days a go and the addiction is calling :)
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#722 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> go yell at the modder to update faster. I'm sure they'll love you for it :)
#723 [18:25] <JohnEBH> It's not like you can't play =P
#724 [18:25] <sugoi> valgarto: backup your %appdata%/.minecraft/ folder, run your patcher, see if it worked, if not, revert
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#726 [18:25] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: :)
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#728 [18:26] <valgarto> @sugoi already done. i think im going to search someone with an 1.2.3 version to send me the files.
#729 [18:27] <Calinou> tested: mcpatcher doesn't work for 1.2.4
#730 [18:29] <sugoi> 1.2.4 chat fixes! nice!
#731 [18:29] <JohnEBH> And crashes >:
#732 [18:31] <sugoi> whine whine :)
#733 [18:32] <tma428> valgarto: perhaps i can help.. since i tested the old client earlier today (hoped it is a version problem :P ), i still got the old 1.2.3 files here
#734 [18:33] <sugoi> tma428: there appears to be a better way to help people revert version
#735 [18:33] <sugoi> rather than share the files
#736 [18:33] * sugoi tries to remember what tool that was
#736 [18:33] <tma428> sugoi: there is? ^^
#737 [18:33] <tma428> sugoi: ah.. tools.. :D tools tools tools for everything :P
#738 [18:34] <sugoi> tma428: we dont want people linking binaries of the client here
#739 [18:34] <tma428> sugoi: i see. sorry, didn't want to offend
#740 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> mcnostalgia
#741 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Unlikely it's been updated for 1.2.4 yet
#742 [18:35] <sugoi> MCNostalgia
#743 [18:35] <sugoi> derp! grey beat me
#744 [18:35] * GreyVulpine snrks
#744 [18:35] * sugoi had to scan the logs. ..
#744 [18:36] <sugoi> btw - i found out my brother met notch!
#745 [18:36] <sugoi> does that, by proxy, make me cool?
#746 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> No.
#747 [18:37] * sugoi frowns
#747 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> It does, however, make you a fanboi.
#748 [18:37] <Boreeas> Hey, that means I'm only seperated from notch by 3 degrees now
#749 [18:37] <tma428> sugoi: uh.. have to start up the heating again... :P
#750 [18:37] <sugoi> heating?
#751 [18:37] <sugoi> sorry :/
#752 [18:38] <tma428> sugoi: uhm.. one moment please :P
#753 [18:39] <tma428> ok, seems to be the right word (english isn't my mother tongue ;) )
#754 [18:39] <tma428> well.. thing, that you turn on.. and it gets warm? :P
#755 [18:39] <sugoi> noun? heater?
#756 [18:40] <tma428> mhm.. yes
#757 [18:40] <Pepper> Boreeas: I've spoken to jeb, that makes me 2 degrees!
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#759 [18:40] <mnjiman> Any suggestions to farming nether warts for potions
#760 [18:40] <mnjiman> ?
#761 [18:40] <Pepper> More like he spoke to me, but details
#762 [18:40] <Boreeas> D:
#763 [18:41] <mnjiman> i have 8 and thats all i can find... would like to plant more
#764 [18:41] <mnjiman> they are growing slowly in the nether.
#765 [18:41] <mnjiman> -_-
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#767 [18:42] * sugoi shares
#767 [18:42] <sugoi> derp
#768 [18:42] <sugoi> http://reckoning.amalur.com/en/r/blogs/meet-the-team-sean-bean
#769 [18:42] <sugoi> search for "notch"
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#771 [18:54] <tma428> good night
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#773 [19:03] <valgarto> gn
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#776 [19:43] <zkxs> it is the hour of nick spam...
#777 [19:51] <sugoi> zkxs: a week ago i learned how to use multiple windows in irc to filter messages
#778 [19:52] <sugoi> in irssi*
#779 [19:52] <zkxs> You can send nick changes to another window?
#780 [19:52] <sugoi> so now i have one tiny window that gets all the joins, quits, nicks, splits, etc
#781 [19:52] <zkxs> Nice
#782 [19:52] <sugoi> and one that gets only chat
#783 [19:54] <sine> how can i save the seed number from a map im on on our server we are running windows
#784 [19:54] <sugoi> sine: copy it to a text file :)
#785 [19:54] <sine> how do i know the number ?
#786 [19:54] <zkxs> F3?
#787 [19:54] <sugoi> sine: you'll see the seed in 2 places, 1. debug view on the client F3, and 2. when the server starts, it'll print it
#788 [19:54] <sine> k
#789 [19:55] <zkxs> Actually... as of 1.2.3 server sends '0' as the seed
#790 [19:55] <sugoi> RUDE
#791 [19:55] <sugoi> zkxs: why?
#792 [19:55] <sugoi> ah
#793 [19:55] * sugoi knows why
#793 [19:55] <sugoi> clever
#794 [19:55] <zkxs> :3
#795 [19:56] <sugoi> sine: ok, so only option 2 :) the server prints it to console on start
#796 [19:56] <sugoi> well, there may be other methods, but that is one of them
#797 [19:56] * sugoi notes there are some tools that can read it from the dat files
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#798 [19:56] <sine> [INFO] Done (6629004398ns)! For help, type "help" or "?"
#799 [19:56] <sine> would that be it ?
#800 [19:57] <sugoi> no, that's how many nanoseconds it took to start
#801 [19:57] <sugoi> it'll say 'seed'
#802 [19:57] <sugoi> [B
#803 [19:57] <sugoi> oops
#804 [19:57] <sugoi> [B
#805 [19:57] <sugoi> DANG IT
#806 [19:58] <sine> it doesnt show it.thanks anyway
#807 [19:58] <sugoi> sine: it's one of the first lines
#808 [19:58] * sugoi starts up a server
#808 [19:58] <cooldude> where do i get 64bit java
#809 [19:59] <cooldude> is windows offline 64bit the one i want?
#810 [19:59] <sugoi> offline just means you'll download the entire thing at once, and not download their downloader
#811 [20:00] <cooldude> um ok so that one
#812 [20:00] <sugoi> sure :)
#813 [20:00] <cooldude> i was here earlier
#814 [20:00] <sugoi> 1. i recommend version 6update31, i assume you're on windows :)
#815 [20:01] <sugoi> k'oh
#816 [20:01] <sugoi> sine: the server isn't printing it either anymore
#817 [20:01] <cooldude> i gave up on updating my video card
#818 [20:01] <sugoi> zkxs: ok, where then?
#819 [20:01] <zkxs> err
#820 [20:01] * zkxs looks under mousepad
#820 [20:01] <zkxs> my server prints it
#821 [20:02] <zkxs> It is 1.2.3 bukkit
#822 [20:02] <zkxs> It isn't at the start, it is where it is "preparing start region"
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#824 [20:03] <cooldude_> when I was here earlier I was trying to update graphics card
#825 [20:04] <sugoi> zkxs: i'm only referring to 1.2.4 i JUST downloaded
#826 [20:04] <sugoi> i don't see the seed
#827 [20:04] <zkxs> if it isn't in the server's output, I don't know where it would be
#828 [20:04] <sugoi> anyways - i'm out
#829 [20:04] <sugoi> laters
#830 [20:04] <cooldude_> nOOOO
#831 [20:04] <zkxs> perhaps if the server is restarted...?
#832 [20:05] <sugoi> zkxs: nay, 100% vanilla cold start test latest
#833 [20:05] * sugoi afk
#833 [20:05] <cooldude_> how do i dooooo it
#834 [20:05] * cooldude_ poops
#834 [20:05] <zkxs> cooldude_: have you given us a dxdiag yet?
#835 [20:05] <cooldude_> yes
#836 [20:05] * zkxs scrolls
#836 [20:05] <cooldude_> at 10am
#837 [20:06] <zkxs> oh... I wasn't awake. Could you get it again?
#838 [20:06] <cooldude_> I have the zip file thingy for my graphics card and idk what to do with it
#839 [20:06] <zkxs> oh, so you got a driver from somewhere
#840 [20:06] <cooldude_> downloading the driver from AMD failed
#841 [20:06] <cooldude_> yes and now i have a zip file from acer
#842 [20:07] <zkxs> Well, start be extracting the zip file
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#844 [20:07] <zkxs> Typically right clicking on it will give you some option to extract it
#845 [20:08] <cooldude_> i extracted it to a folder on my desktop
#846 [20:08] <cooldude_> and all that in the folder is something called setup
#847 [20:08] <zkxs> Try running it
#848 [20:10] <cooldude_> i screwup up first time, now theres a bunch of weird stuff and the setup thing in the folder
#849 [20:11] <cooldude_> express or custom install?
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#851 [20:11] <zkxs> express
#852 [20:12] <cooldude_> this is where i was confused
#853 [20:13] <cooldude_> right now the ati folder is under program filesx86 and it says its gunna install to program files
#854 [20:13] <cooldude_> do i tell it to install under the other one?
#855 [20:13] <cooldude_> and why is there 2 anyway
#856 [20:13] <zkxs> just go with the default location
#857 [20:14] <zkxs> is this an amd installer?
#858 [20:14] <cooldude_> yes
#859 [20:14] <zkxs> is it installing itself?
#860 [20:14] <cooldude_> um
#861 [20:14] <cooldude_> wut
#862 [20:14] <zkxs> I was helping someone a few months back...
#863 [20:15] <zkxs> He downloaded installer#1, which installed installer#2. When he ran installer#2 it installed a copy of installer#1
#864 [20:15] <cooldude_> lol
#865 [20:16] <zkxs> I thought he had screwed something up, so I eventually remoted into his computer, but it was actually just some kind of retarded installer loop...
#866 [20:16] <cooldude_> are you sure i dont tell it to install under programx86
#867 [20:16] <zkxs> Just go with the default
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#869 [20:16] <cooldude_> but then there will be to ati technologies folders in different places
#870 [20:16] <zkxs> It is generally a bad idea to have things install to a non-default path
#871 [20:17] <cooldude_> says ati technologies folder dont exist, want to make one...?
#872 [20:17] <reCAPTCHA> Yo, so I followed eye of ender all the way down to bedrock.... and never found a stronghold.... but it still insists that I am in the right spot.... what do I do?
#873 [20:17] <zkxs> cooldude_: yes
#874 [20:18] <zkxs> reCAPTCHA: Did you create your level in a previous version of minecraft?
#875 [20:18] <reCAPTCHA> zkxs: ..... yes?
#876 [20:18] <zkxs> reCAPTCHA: You probably don't have a stronghold then
#877 [20:18] <cooldude_> im scared
#878 [20:19] <reCAPTCHA> zkxs: So..... will a stronghold be generated if I explore more?
#879 [20:19] <zkxs> reCAPTCHA: probably not, and if it does the ender eyes won't lead you to it
#880 [20:20] <cooldude_> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
#881 [20:20] <cooldude_> its going big and small is this normal?
#882 [20:20] <zkxs> your screen?
#883 [20:20] <cooldude_> yes
#884 [20:21] <zkxs> is the installer done?
#885 [20:21] <reCAPTCHA> zkxs: But it is not an OLD version of minecraft.... I mean, we are talking late 2011 / early 2012...
#886 [20:21] <cooldude_> no
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#888 [20:21] <cooldude_> the screen flashed black and went big and small and i had a heart attack
#889 [20:21] <zkxs> cooldude_: if it keeps doing it after it is done, then you can start worrying
#890 [20:21] <cooldude_> its done now and i shit my pants
#891 [20:22] <zkxs> reCAPTCHA: When minecraft is updated, the terrain generation changes and seeds are interpreted differently.
#892 [20:22] <clarkdh> so i think my terrain generator is screwed up. even without mods it seems as if it always creates faaar too much vegetation
#893 [20:22] <cooldude_> reboot time brb
#894 [20:22] <zkxs> clarkdh: you aren't just in a jungle? :P
#895 [20:22] <reCAPTCHA> zkxs: So, If I ever want to get to a stronghold I have to make sure not to update minecraft?
#896 [20:23] <clarkdh> i always seem to spawn in the middle of a jungle
#897 [20:23] <zkxs> reCAPTCHA: If you have already found the stronghold, then you are fine. However, if minecraft's terrain generation updates, it could start thinking the stronghold should be somewhere else. Possibly somewhere terrain has already been generated
#898 [20:24] <reCAPTCHA> Yeah, I have never found a stronghold before...
#899 [20:25] <zkxs> clarkdh: it is probably just bad luck. If you think you somehow ended up with a corrupt terrain generator, you could always reinstall minecraft
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#901 [20:27] <cooldude> hey
#902 [20:28] <cooldude> minecraft is broken now guys
#903 [20:28] <rev-lemon> what are you getting explane ?
#904 [20:28] <cooldude> is the person who helped me here?
#905 [20:29] <NinjaKirby> lol, incredibru
#906 [20:29] <NinjaKirby> This is a lair of first world problems
#907 [20:30] <cooldude> i updated video driver and it says loadlibrary failed with rror 126 the specified moduule coud ot be found
#908 [20:30] <cooldude> im scared
#909 [20:30] <cooldude> its java who pops up with that message
#910 [20:30] <rev-lemon> hm, force up date and see if that helps again
#911 [20:30] <cooldude> it doesnt
#912 [20:31] <cooldude> i did
#913 [20:31] <rev-lemon> when
#914 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> It's a java issue. uninstall/reinstall java
#915 [20:31] <rev-lemon> hm,
#916 [20:31] <cooldude> does it have anything to do with the video card?
#917 [20:31] <cooldude> i tried updating
#918 [20:34] <cooldude> OMFGOMFGOMFGOMFGOMFG
#919 [20:34] <cooldude> omfg
#920 [20:34] <cooldude> I LOVE you all
#921 [20:34] <cooldude> my lighting bug is GONE
#922 [20:35] <cooldude> and im getting 1milllll fps on minecraft
#923 [20:35] <cooldude> i think that message came up because i installed java 64 without removing the old one first maybe
#924 [20:35] <NinjaKirby> Dual-wielding Java Environments, hardcore
#925 [20:36] <cooldude> so that could of been the problem..? :)
#926 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> Possible, but more than likely, it was the video drivers
#927 [20:36] * NinjaKirby notes the division in opinions
#927 [20:37] <NinjaKirby> I vehemently disagree Grey!
#928 [20:37] <cooldude> so why is it fixed now that I uninstalled java 64?
#929 [20:37] <zkxs> I'm dual wielding environments... but I have sudo update-alternatives --config java
#930 [20:37] <cooldude> do i need to restore my computer or anything?
#931 [20:38] <cooldude> minecraft runs so good now
#932 [20:39] <NinjaKirby> Really? System Restore now it's finally working?
#933 [20:40] <NinjaKirby> Is something else not working instead of?
#934 [20:42] <cooldude> umm terria says the game isnt available at this time
#935 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> That's unrelated to Minecraft. Restart steam
#936 [20:42] <NinjaKirby> Steam has always made me raeg more then plaes me.
#937 [20:42] <clarjon1> Heh
#938 [20:43] <clarjon1> They just released a TF2 update 10 minutes ago
#939 [20:43] <cooldude> i exited steam and now it says registory is in use by another process!! why is all this weird stuff happening
#940 [20:44] <cooldude> -works now
#941 [20:47] <cooldude> i have had to many heart attacks today
#942 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Welcome to the world of computers.
#943 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> You'll get used to it
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#945 [20:48] <cooldude_> i need help again, i installed java 64 bit again and minecraft doesnt work again
#946 [20:48] <NinjaKirby> There is suddenly too much coolness in here, so many cool dudes.
#947 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#948 [20:49] <cooldude_> i installed hava 64 bit offline and now minecraft wont work
#949 [20:49] <cooldude_> java
#950 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> And what happens when you try to run minecraft?
#951 [20:49] <cooldude_> that error comes up that i said before
#952 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Which error?
#953 [20:50] <cooldude_> load library failed with error 126: the specified module could not be found
#954 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Java error, uninstall/reinstall jav
#955 [20:51] <cooldude_> i did
#956 [20:51] <cooldude_> and it still happen
#957 [20:51] <cooldude_> when i just have 32 bit it works but when i install 64 it doesnt
#958 [20:52] <cooldude_> im dling windows offline (64bit) is that right?
#959 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> If you've got a 64 bit windows OS, yes
#960 [20:53] <cooldude_> yes
#961 [20:53] <cooldude_> i dont get why it wont work
#962 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> Installation of java may just be corrupt on your system
#963 [20:54] <cooldude_> i had java6_30, i installed java6_31 then i updated video driver and this error keeps coming up
#964 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall all java from your system before reinstalling any new version
#965 [20:55] <cooldude_> even if its a different bit
#966 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#967 [20:56] <cooldude_> so uninstall java 32 and 64 then install them again? right now
#968 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall ALL java from your system before reinstalling. This ensures a clean install of java
#969 [20:57] <cooldude_> so will that fix what ever ive done
#970 [20:57] <cooldude_> ill be back them :/
#971 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Hopefully.
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#974 [21:04] <cooldude> i uninstalled them both and reinstalled and it still happens
#975 [21:04] <cooldude> im freaking out
#976 [21:04] <cooldude> what do i do?
#977 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> How did you uninstall them?
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#979 [21:05] <cooldude> the control panel
#980 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't look like minecraft wants to run on java 64 bit. Hmm.
#981 [21:07] <cooldude> idk if this is related to the driver
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#983 [21:08] <cooldude> so is there a fix? or am i going to need a system restore or something
#984 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Don't think there's a fix other than java and video drivers
#985 [21:09] <cooldude> what?
#986 [21:09] <cooldude> what do you suggest i do
#987 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> I'd take another look at that video driver, see if it was the correct version
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#989 [21:12] <cooldude> i got it from my acer site and i answered my computer specs and thats what it gave me
#990 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Don't know what else to suggest here.
#991 [21:14] <cooldude> well how do i get it back to how it was before
#992 [21:14] <cooldude> anywat to uninstall the driver?
#993 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> Only if the Acer site lists older versions of that driver, or do a system restore
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#995 [21:16] <cooldude> could i just keep java 32 bit and leave it how it is? or is that doing something bad
#996 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Sure, you can leave it
#997 [21:18] <cooldude> but doing a system restore will get rid of it?
#998 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Possibly.
#999 [21:21] <cooldude> :(
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#1010 [23:00] <zkxs> :ts/launcher
#1011 [23:00] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#1012 [23:00] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
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#1019 [23:44] <TheWarden> Hi, is there anyone familiar with "M3tal Warrior/Server Startup Script"? I'm trying to get it working to setup a startup script on Debian but it keeps failing.
#1020 [23:45] <TheWarden> I have no error messages unfortunately... which has left me at a loss what to do about it.
#1021 [23:50] <TheWarden> it appears to be the better one being that it has so many options to maintain the server yet it doesn't run. I can run the server manually.
#1022 [23:52] <zkxs> This is an init script?
#1023 [23:54] <TheWarden> yes to run headless, do backups, etc. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/M3tal_Warrior_Server_Startup_Script
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#1025 [23:56] <zkxs> do init scripts even display errors? have you tried running it like it is a normal script?
#1026 [23:57] <TheWarden> its a bash script. Well to be honest I don't know how to find any errors. tried but no luck thus far. I put the script on my Debian system in /etc/init.d/minecraft so it will run at system init.
#1027 [23:57] <zkxs> not unless you enable it
#1028 [23:58] <zkxs> also, you have all the options correct? filenames, username, etc?
#1029 [23:58] <TheWarden> I run it manually and it just says error can not run minecraft_server.jar
#1030 [23:58] <zkxs> are you running it a root?
#1031 [23:58] <TheWarden> well yes I have to do update-rc.d for it to work but I'm running the script manually first to get it working.
#1032 [23:58] <zkxs> *as
#1033 [23:58] <TheWarden> I'm doing sudo /etc/init.d/minecraft start
#1034 [23:59] <zkxs> and the username you used for USERNAME='metalwarrior' is an existing username?
#1035 [23:59] <TheWarden> the username is set as mine name but I could change that to root. I double checked the paths and all looks good ot me.
#1036 [23:59] <zkxs> don't make it root, yours is fine