#1 [00:00] <zkxs> What if you manually run java -jar $MBEPATH/$MBESERVICE -nogui $WORLD
#2 [00:00] <TheWarden> well I changed it to root and tried to run it and it ran fine. testing to see if its working fully
#3 [00:01] <zkxs> oh, wait... that isn't right
#4 [00:01] <TheWarden> yeah I don't want it this way that is for sure.
#5 [00:01] <zkxs> don't do that manual run thing I suggested
#6 [00:01] <TheWarden> ok :)
#7 [00:02] <zkxs> Do you have rwx access to the server's directory/files
#8 [00:02] <zkxs> make sure YOU own all the files and not some other user
#9 [00:03] <zkxs> ...you shouldn't need to run it as root... that is what windows is for :P
#10 [00:04] <TheWarden> ahh actually the directory its in is rwx-r-x-r-x. but the files in the directory is set to rw-r--r--
#11 [00:04] <TheWarden> yeah so true about Windows.
#12 [00:04] <TheWarden> so I wonder why I can't as myself... mm gotta be permissions. The ownership is all root:root mm
#13 [00:04] <zkxs> as long as the directories are u+rwx and the files are u+rw you should be fine. you own them, right?
#14 [00:05] <zkxs> oh
#15 [00:05] <zkxs> that isn't right
#16 [00:05] <zkxs> you need to chown them
#17 [00:05] <zkxs> you need to chown them
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#19 [00:07] <zkxs> make sure you are in the correct directory (running this from / would be bad) and do a `chown -c -R yourusername:yourgroup *`
#20 [00:08] <zkxs> that should fix your problem
#21 [00:08] <zkxs> TheWarden: ^
#22 [00:09] <zkxs> oh, and chown needs to be run a root, so sudo that
#23 [00:09] <TheWarden> yes, I have changed ownership now. mm -c never used that parameter. I'll look it up.
#24 [00:10] <zkxs> verbose about changes
#25 [00:10] <zkxs> I like to see what it is doing so if it screw something up I know
#26 [00:10] <TheWarden> ahh okay. I think I'm good now. going to give it a try running it with my username.
#27 [00:11] <TheWarden> crap it doesn't work again when I switched back to my username. what the heck.
#28 [00:12] <zkxs> did you chown all the files?
#29 [00:12] <TheWarden> yes I did chown -R username:group server/
#30 [00:13] <zkxs> does it have to be server/* ?
#31 [00:14] <zkxs> did you verify that the ownership changed?
#32 [00:15] <zkxs> also, you want to make sure you own and have +rwx to the directory the server in. I always forget to do that
#33 [00:17] <TheWarden> take a look http://pastebin.com/aTUjSzF0
#34 [00:18] <zkxs> that looks right. It still isn't working :/
#35 [00:20] <zkxs> same error as before?
#36 [00:20] <TheWarden> not when I use my username, yes same error as before.
#37 [00:21] <TheWarden> does my account have to have certain rights or be a part of a certain group?
#38 [00:21] <zkxs> what if you try to manually start the server without using the script?
#39 [00:23] <zkxs> It *shouldn't* but I'm not quit sure what the script is up to.
#40 [00:23] <zkxs> does running the server jar manually work?
#41 [00:24] <zkxs> and do you have $USERAMFS set to 'yes'?
#42 [00:26] <TheWarden> yes I can run it manually as follows sudo java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui but as you see using sudo. I must have some permissions/ownership issues with JRE 1.7
#43 [00:26] <zkxs> it doesn't work without sudo?
#44 [00:26] <TheWarden> no it doesn't oddly.
#45 [00:26] <zkxs> huh
#46 [00:26] <zkxs> I guess you can just run it as root
#47 [00:27] <zkxs> that is weird though
#48 [00:27] <TheWarden> do you know what kind of permissions and ownership I should have for my jre-1.7 install ?
#49 [00:28] <zkxs> it should be owned by root, and g+rx
#50 [00:28] <TheWarden> I'm not sure how but I did a sudo tar zxvf jre.tar.gz to /opt/ and I have ownership as uucp:143. strange to me.
#51 [00:28] <zkxs> ah, you manually installed java
#52 [00:28] <zkxs> there isn't a .deb for that?
#53 [00:29] <TheWarden> yes I don't know any other way to install it for Debian and using JRE 1.7 from Oracle.
#54 [00:29] <zkxs> huh, I got mine using this tutorial, but it is for ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
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#56 [00:29] <TheWarden> no there isn't. Oracle will not allow it anymore apparently and all there is is OpenJDK or Sun JRE 1.6 I think it is which is no longer legal to use apparently.
#57 [00:29] <zkxs> I'm using 1.6, I believe
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#59 [00:30] <zkxs> illegal old versions?
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#61 [00:30] <zkxs> I just checked, and i'm using sun java 6
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#63 [00:32] <TheWarden> yeah it is as Oracle has revoked the license as that was under Sun not Oracle.
#64 [00:32] <TheWarden> plus I wanted to have the latest stable.
#65 [00:32] <zkxs> I'm not sure if 7 is stable
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#67 [00:32] <TheWarden> I took a look at that article and I actually did everything in that except for making it work in Firefox.
#68 [00:32] <zkxs> quite a few people have 7-related minecraft problems
#69 [00:32] <TheWarden> 1.7 is now
#70 [00:32] <TheWarden> 1.7 is now
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#72 [00:33] <zkxs> So you won't use java 6?
#73 [00:34] <TheWarden> its official JRE 1.7 is stable http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/444374
#74 [00:35] <zkxs> According to them
#75 [00:35] <TheWarden> well if I absolutely have to I will use JRE 1.6 but for now I would prefer to wait as it does work just not running as the correct username. I'll see about changing my permissions with the JRE 1.7 I have. I wonder want group I should put it into as it has 143 right now oddly
#76 [00:36] <zkxs> typically installs to /opt are root:root with all users having +rx on the executables and directories, and +r on the files
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#78 [00:40] <cooldude> i have fixed my computer!!!
#79 [00:40] <cooldude> after you people broke it >:(
#80 [00:41] <zkxs> yay for you
#81 [00:42] <zkxs> have you come here to tell us all about it?
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#83 [00:42] <M1n3cr4ftr> hello, is there any place I can take my computer so that they can update the graphics card for me? I GIVE UP
#84 [00:43] <zkxs> M1n3cr4ftr: I'm not an idiot, cooldude
#85 [00:43] <M1n3cr4ftr> lol
#86 [00:43] <M1n3cr4ftr> welll the system restore took an hour it just finished
#87 [00:43] <M1n3cr4ftr> and now im back to sqaure one with bad minecraft
#88 [00:44] <M1n3cr4ftr> whos cooldude?
#89 [00:44] <M1n3cr4ftr> he souds like an ass
#90 [00:44] <TheWarden> zkxs: after I chown -c -R root:root /opt/jre-1.7 I;m not able to start the server manually without the script. gonna try the script now.
#91 [00:44] * M1n3cr4ftr is sorry for insulting the ppl who tried to help him
#91 [00:44] <zkxs> M1n3cr4ftr: Just some canadian from Maple Ridge
#92 [00:45] <M1n3cr4ftr> umm howd you know :O
#93 [00:45] <zkxs> Magic?
#94 [00:45] <M1n3cr4ftr> will best buy do it for me
#95 [00:45] <TheWarden> yes the script is working... cheers. Not work just due to permissions and ownership of Minecraft and JRE.
#96 [00:45] <zkxs> TheWarden: cool!
#97 [00:45] <M1n3cr4ftr> im not trying ever again, i fixed minecraft but broke java
#98 [00:45] <zkxs> M1n3cr4ftr: if they have a geek squad, probably
#99 [00:46] <zkxs> if not they'll probably just try to pawn you a new laptop :P
#100 [00:46] <M1n3cr4ftr> lol probably
#101 [00:47] <M1n3cr4ftr> i had a taste of new minecraft :( 60 frames on far and fancy, back to 20 frames on tiny and fast
#102 [00:47] <M1n3cr4ftr> i didnt know a driver update could do so much
#103 [00:48] <TheWarden> zkxs: but I if I have RAMFS I get a bunch of these rsync: failed to set times on "/dev/shm/minecraft/world/players": Operation not permitted (1)
#104 [00:48] <TheWarden> rsync: mkstemp "/dev/shm/minecraft/.banned-ips.txt.l6KpkB" failed: Permission denied (13)
#105 [00:48] <zkxs> TheWarden: Do you need to use ramfs?
#106 [00:48] <cooldude> goodbye <3 luv you
#107 [00:48] <TheWarden> zkxs: well I honestly new to a minecraft server so I don't know. It sounds like a good feature to use.
#108 [00:49] <zkxs> I have no ramfs experience (aside from knowing what it is) so I don't know if it needs root or what
#109 [00:49] <zkxs> I have my server running off of my SSD
#110 [00:50] <TheWarden> mmm odd... wouldn't it be more responsive in ram
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#112 [00:51] <zkxs> cooldude: btw, monkey is spelled monkey
#113 [00:51] <zkxs> TheWarden: yeah. I'm just to lazy to set up a ramfs :P
#114 [00:52] <TheWarden> zkxs: mmm well for now I can run without but I'll have to some how figure this out.
#115 [00:54] <zkxs> you *should* have write access to /dev/shm
#116 [00:56] <TheWarden> zkxs: it appears to me rsync permission errors. I'll have to trace the code and figure out what its try to do.
#117 [00:58] <zkxs> TheWarden: If failed to set times means what I think it does (created/modified timestamp) then it isn't very serious
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#119 [01:05] <TheWarden> zkxs: well this is odd, I thought I had this fixed at least for getting to to run via the script but it only runs via the script if I run it. if I do sudo or as root the script errors out to start the server.
#120 [01:06] <zkxs> that is bad, because init scripts run as root
#121 [01:06] <TheWarden> I did sudo update-rc.d minecraft defaults and tried manually to run the script as sudo and as root in both cases it fails. Yet it runs as me fine.
#122 [01:07] <TheWarden> so confusing
#123 [01:11] * TheWarden sighs
#123 [01:15] <TheWarden> crap I did chmod -R 777 on all minecraft and that made no difference
#124 [01:20] * TheWarden shakes his fist at minecraft script
#124 [01:21] <TheWarden> well I give up for tonight.. no clue what else to try. take care all.
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#127 [01:23] <mortisha> can anyone help me find 1.2.4 mods?
#128 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> See http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/51-minecraft-mods/
#129 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> As 1.2.4 was released yesterday, every modder's busy updating their mod.
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#131 [01:25] <mortisha> yeah there's only like 2 of them updated ): i'm looking for reiminimap and autoswitch for 1.2.4
#132 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> Give it a few days.
#133 [01:25] <mortisha> okay well thanks anyways (:
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#136 [01:46] <Landslide> Uh.. Hi.
#137 [01:46] <JohnEBH> Hello
#138 [01:46] <Landslide> So, uhm. I have a question - that alright?
#139 [01:46] <JohnEBH> Yeah go ahead =P Everyone in here
#140 [01:46] * Landslide pokes an IRC channel he doesn't frequent with a tentative stick.
#140 [01:47] <JohnEBH> Would be happy to help*
#141 [01:47] <JohnEBH> Or most >.>
#142 [01:47] <Landslide> Okay - so, just patched my client to the latest release.
#143 [01:47] <Landslide> But server hasn't updated.
#144 [01:47] <JohnEBH> Mhmmm
#145 [01:47] <Landslide> What are my options?
#146 [01:47] <JohnEBH> Revert to a backuped minecraft.jar =P
#147 [01:47] <JohnEBH> Mcnostalgia as far as I know isn't updated yet
#148 [01:48] <lemon-rev> john or re download the server file from minecraft.net and it should be updated
#149 [01:48] <JohnEBH> Not many servers are running 1.2.4, but I know a few are
#150 [01:48] <Landslide> Or I punch my server admin at work tomorrow?
#151 [01:48] <JohnEBH> lemon-rev, Assuming the server isn't his of course xD
#152 [01:48] <lemon-rev> lol Landslide thats funny lol you can do that anyways
#153 [01:48] <Landslide> Buddy runs the server - but I guess he didn't update.
#154 [01:48] <lemon-rev> true
#155 [01:48] <JohnEBH> otherwise he wouldn't be inhere =P
#156 [01:48] <lemon-rev> well thats true enough
#157 [01:49] <Landslide> Wanted to work on my bunker tonight without having to make plans to cut him.
#158 [01:49] <Landslide> Dammit.
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#161 [01:52] <Deathspawn> i keep getting a crash on startup.... http://pastie.org/private/kckgm096mixjxb7jtqopw
#162 [01:52] <JohnEBH> Holdup
#163 [01:53] <Deathspawn> done force update already, that happened after 2 of them so idk
#164 [01:53] <Landslide> Huh
#165 [01:53] <JohnEBH> Update Java just to make sure
#166 [01:53] <Landslide> They use Bugzilla
#167 [01:54] <Landslide> You at 32 bit or 64 bit OS?
#168 [01:54] <JohnEBH> linux
#169 [01:54] <JohnEBH> With a 32bit java
#170 [01:54] <JohnEBH> # JRE version: 6.0_24-b24
#171 [01:54] <JohnEBH> # Java VM: OpenJDK Client VM (20.0-b12 mixed mode linux-x86 )
#172 [01:54] <Landslide> Reading is hard.
#173 [01:55] <JohnEBH> Very.
#174 [01:55] <Deathspawn> heh kernel update and graphics driver updates avaliable.
#175 [01:55] <JohnEBH> Latest java release is 6.0_26, not sure about openJDK though >:
#176 [01:55] <JohnEBH> i dun use linux
#177 [01:56] <Deathspawn> i could grab openjdk7
#178 [01:57] <JohnEBH> An updated copy, try it ^^
#179 [01:57] <Deathspawn> i just recently got this after updating to 1.2.4
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#181 [01:57] <rusko> Hey - what is the general way of installing mods nowadays?
#182 [01:57] <JohnEBH> There aren't any major changes that would cause this imo.
#183 [01:57] <rusko> I haven't played in ages.
#184 [01:57] <JohnEBH> Try a clean install?
#185 [01:58] <rusko> (on Mac)
#186 [01:58] <rusko> Can anybody point me in the right direction?
#187 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> rusko - Hasn't changed. Depends on the mod still. Generally, you mod with placing files in minecraft.jar
#188 [01:59] <JohnEBH> We still don't officially do mod support right? ^^
#189 [01:59] <rusko> Yeah - that's the way I would have thought but hearing a lot of "ModLoader" sort of jazz on the forumsms
#190 [01:59] <Deathspawn> i swear, modding and force updating pretty much renders the achievements useless.
#191 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> As 1.2.4 was released yesterday, there's only a handful of mods compatible
#192 [01:59] <rusko> JohnEBH: Sorry, is there a more appropriate channel to ask in?
#193 [01:59] <JohnEBH> Nonono xD
#194 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> rusko - for those mods that use modloader, you'll mod minecraft.jar with modloader, and then place the mods that depend on modloader, in the .minecraft/mods/ folder
#195 [02:00] <rusko> I'm assuming 1.2.3 mods will not work with the latest update?
#196 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> You would be correct
#197 [02:00] <rusko> Bugger.
#198 [02:02] <JohnEBH> Opinions? http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/939149-launcher-magic-launcher-097-mods-options-news/
#199 [02:02] <rusko> Does it work!?
#200 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> Official stance is still, third party clients are not supported here
#201 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> Use at your own risk
#202 [02:02] <rusko> Of course
#203 [02:03] <JohnEBH> Caught my eye, so I shared ^^
#204 [02:05] * JohnEBH goes to sleep
#204 [02:07] <rusko> GreyVulpine: thanks for your help1
#205 [02:13] <Deathspawn> well this is odd.... did the graphics updates and kernel updates... rebooted... tried minecraft, it works... exit out of it, and then was gonna go play it, and then tell you guys oh it works now, but now it doesn't.....
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#240 [07:31] <Andy> hey, anyone knowing why my minecraft keeps hanging up while updating? it is 100% working in normal operation, but i have to start the update process about 20 times for one successful run... (my os: win 7, 64 bit)
#241 [07:37] <Andy> nevermind, it did work now on try #34 xD
#242 [07:37] <Andy> will be back on next update =)
#243 [07:37] <Andy> will be back on next update =)
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#259 [08:31] <raatuter> I can't log in to minecraft.net, neither can my friends
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#261 [08:53] <vile> can i get some help pls?
#262 [08:54] <vile> anyone ;o ?
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#267 [09:07] <Kamilko47> Hi
#268 [09:08] <Kamilko47> I have registered minecraft. Yesterday I can't login to acount - "User not premium" What I must do?
#269 [09:11] <Kamilko47> I have registered minecraft. Yesterday I can't login to acount - "User not premium" What I must do?
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#271 [09:12] <Calinou> Kamilko47: don't ask in PM, ask in the channel :P
#272 [09:12] <Calinou> minecraft is _not_ a free game, well the full game
#273 [09:12] <Calinou> classic is
#274 [09:13] <Kamilko47> But I have a code, I buy this
#275 [09:14] <Calinou> you don't have to buy a gift code to buy yourself the game
#276 [09:14] <Pepper> minecraft.net/redeem
#277 [09:14] <Calinou> are you using the right user name/password to log in?
#278 [09:14] <Kamilko47> Yes
#279 [09:14] <Grim_Reaper> Make sure you use your email to login
#280 [09:14] <Calinou> Grim_Reaper: uh?
#281 [09:14] <Calinou> on minecraft.net you login with your username
#282 [09:14] <Grim_Reaper> No on the launcher
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#284 [09:14] <Grim_Reaper> Cause of the accounts being linked with mojang.com
#285 [09:15] <Kamilko47> Game work a few week
#286 [09:15] <|Kiikun|> 'user not premium' = login valad, but not premium
#287 [09:15] <|Kiikun|> Kamilko47: you entered the gift code, correct? also what website did you purchase the game from?
#288 [09:15] <Kamilko47> Yes, write "user not premium"
#289 [09:15] <Kamilko47> allegro.pl - polish "ebay"
#290 [09:16] <|Kiikun|> :scam
#291 [09:16] <WugBot> scam: Do not buy minecraft from anywhere except http://minecraft.net There is a high probability that the gift code you purchase will later be disabled.
#292 [09:16] <WugBot> scam: This scam is possible because it is possible to perform a chargeback on the payment made for the gift code. This results in the money being transferred back into the buyers account and Mojang disabling the gift code.
#293 [09:16] <|Kiikun|> basicly, if the giftcodes already entered, and its not syaing premium anymore... you got scammed.
#294 [09:16] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#295 [09:17] <Kamilko47> This gif code working, i can play but yesterday stop work
#296 [09:17] <|Kiikun|> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-i-was-premium-now-i-m-not-
#297 [09:17] <Grim_Reaper> scam: This scam is possible because it is possible to perform a chargeback on the payment made for the gift code. This results in the money being transferred back into the buyers account and Mojang disabling the gift code.
#298 [09:17] <|Kiikun|> the gift code enters, the perform a chargeback, money gets taken back from mojang, mojang disables code, account nolonger premium
#299 [09:17] <|Kiikun|> the gift code enters, the perform a chargeback, money gets taken back from mojang, mojang disables code, account nolonger premium
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#301 [09:22] * |Kiikun| ish bored
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#308 [09:58] <Pedruxx> Hi, I made the payment by credit card minecraft "Master Card" it's been twelve hours more than the gift code has not arrived, what do I do?
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#310 [10:06] <oldtopman> ??> Pedruxx payment
#311 [10:06] <VoxelHead> Pedruxx: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#312 [10:06] <VoxelHead> Pedruxx: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#313 [10:09] <Pedruxx> Well, it was only done to twelve hours, then within 24 ho payment may have already processed?
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#316 [10:48] <Szczurek996> someone pl?
#317 [10:49] <Szczurek996> can someone help me
#318 [10:49] <WugBot> Szczurek996: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#319 [10:49] <Pedruxx> Well, it was only done to twelve hours, then within 24 ho payment may have already processed?
#320 [10:50] <Szczurek996> I've played minecraft for few mounths
#321 [10:50] <Szczurek996> and today, i can't login to minecraft on multiplayer
#322 [10:50] <Szczurek996> it shows "user not premium"
#323 [10:51] <Szczurek996> you know what's going about?
#324 [10:52] <Szczurek996> can you say me what happeind?
#325 [10:53] <Szczurek996> someone
#326 [10:55] <Szczurek996> can someone help me?
#327 [10:55] <WugBot> Szczurek996: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#328 [10:55] <Szczurek996> I've played minecraft for few mounths and today, i can't login to minecraft on multiplayer.
#329 [10:56] <Szczurek996> WugBot: I've played minecraft for few mounths and today, i can't login to minecraft on multiplayer.
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#332 [11:13] <Lions\Fiskelim> Hi
#333 [11:14] <Lions\Fiskelim> Can someone tell me what server version that came out yesterday? The version ID
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#335 [11:22] <Morrolan> http://www.mojang.com/
#336 [11:22] <Morrolan> 1.2.4
#337 [11:22] <Lions\Fiskelim> Thank you!
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#339 [11:35] <|Anthony|> how often does minecraft update?
#340 [11:36] <|Anthony|> seems like over the past month or so there have been 3 updates
#341 [11:36] <|Anthony|> is that regular?
#342 [11:37] <Pepper> It really does depend on what sort of features or bug fixes are done
#343 [11:37] <Pepper> I know jeb has stated that 1.3 is probably going to be May
#344 [11:37] <|Anthony|> but there is no release schedule that the adhere to... like distros typically do?
#345 [11:38] <Pepper> Basically, when they feel they've done enough for a release, they'll release it
#346 [11:39] <|Anthony|> kinda makes setting up a server difficult if there isn't a steady known timeframe... just finish setting up a server to find it needs to be done again
#347 [11:39] <|Anthony|> a bukkit server with plugins that is
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#349 [11:40] <|Anthony|> hmm... maybe now with the absorption of the bukkit team, that will be something to seriously consider.
#350 [11:40] <|Anthony|> would make developing mods and running a server more manageable
#351 [11:41] <|Anthony|> developers get a devel version of the upcoming release so that they are ready when minecraft is
#352 [11:42] <Boreeas> Dev builds for bukkit are availlable already
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#354 [11:42] <mib_nydcqx> hello i need help
#355 [11:43] <mib_nydcqx> my brick block and golden block and anybrick type item in fact has a portal/fire and regular brick in it
#356 [11:43] <|Anthony|> yes, but i'm suggesting that client and bukkit server be kept on the same release schedule instead of the server AND mods being one or more versions behind
#357 [11:43] <mib_nydcqx> and my gold block has a fire corner
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#359 [11:44] <Boreeas> mib_nydcqx: Sounds like you are using an unpatched high-res texture pack
#360 [11:44] <mib_nydcqx> i pacthed it
#361 [11:44] <mib_nydcqx> its gerodoku
#362 [11:44] <TheWarden> Hi
#363 [11:44] <mib_nydcqx> and its 1.2.4
#364 [11:45] <Boreeas> Did you choose the right patch resolution?
#365 [11:45] <mib_nydcqx> im not sure
#366 [11:45] <mib_nydcqx> can you help
#367 [11:45] <mib_nydcqx> like in skype maybe
#368 [11:45] <mib_nydcqx> i can screen share
#369 [11:45] <Boreeas> Double check that. The texture pack should tell you what resolution you need (16x16, 32x32, etc) ,and you need to set the patcher to the same resolution
#370 [11:45] <mib_nydcqx> its 32x32
#371 [11:46] <Boreeas> Then check your patcher, possibly repatch it with 32x32 and try again.
#372 [11:46] <TheWarden> I'm trying to get the startup script http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/M3tal_Warrior_Server_Startup_Script to work. I can manually run the server using the same parameters the script uses.
#373 [11:46] <mib_nydcqx> i cant find it
#374 [11:46] <mib_nydcqx> its mc pacther
#375 [11:46] <mib_nydcqx> dosent seem to have one
#376 [11:47] <TheWarden> I can also run the server using screen. However for some reason the script does not work at boot up and it does not work when I try to stop the server either. I have to manually go screen -r as root and then type stop.
#377 [11:47] <TheWarden> how can I find out why the script does start the server at system boot time (init.d)?
#378 [11:47] <TheWarden> I'm on Debian
#379 [11:48] <Boreeas> mib_nydcqx: in that case, we can't help you, and we can only tell you to go back to the default texture pack or try another one.
#380 [11:48] <mib_nydcqx> ok
#381 [11:48] <mib_nydcqx> thx
#382 [11:56] <TheWarden> very frustrating
#383 [11:58] <|Anthony|> any way to run minecraft in a debug mode... so it will output errors to file or stdout?
#384 [11:58] <|Anthony|> i'd like to know what is causing it to crash X
#385 [11:59] <Morrolan> Start it through the terminal.
#386 [11:59] <|Anthony|> right
#387 [11:59] <Pepper> Or mc error
#388 [11:59] <Morrolan> There's also a tool which outputs additonal information if you really want, but I don't know its name. I guess it might be "mc error" which Pepper mentioned.
#389 [12:00] <Pepper> https://github.com/downloads/medsouz/MinecraftError/MCErrorv24.jar < that :D
#390 [12:01] <|Anthony|> hmm... actually i use Magic Launcher and it has the option to output msgs to a console
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#392 [12:01] <|Anthony|> now if it stores a file of that it would be great
#393 [12:01] <|Anthony|> can't exactly read the log if x crashes
#394 [12:01] <|Anthony|> lol
#395 [12:02] <TheWarden> would this be an issue that jre 1.7 is not auto mode? http://pastebin.com/euU9NT1L
#396 [12:03] <TheWarden> keep in mind I can run the server manually just doesn't start up at boot time. I see the statements that its starting or stopping but nothing more. I have no idea where to track down the reason of it not starting.
#397 [12:03] <Pepper> |Anthony|: Magic launcher doesn't stay open on crash?
#398 [12:03] <|Anthony|> my X server crashes
#399 [12:03] <|Anthony|> nothing stays open
#400 [12:03] <|Anthony|> the whole session is ended
#401 [12:04] <Pepper> OH, heh
#402 [12:04] <Morrolan> "script_to_start_server.sh > log.txt" ?
#403 [12:04] <|Anthony|> lol
#404 [12:04] <|Anthony|> mm
#405 [12:04] <|Anthony|> good idea
#406 [12:05] <|Anthony|> now i have to wait for rain... usually a trigger
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#409 [12:21] <JavaGuest713> does anyone anywhere have a download link to the JAR for 1.2.3 server? I just corrupted mine and most of my mods are not 1.2.4 compatible yet :(
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#412 [12:26] <JavaGuest713> anyone?
#413 [12:27] <JavaGuest713> does anyone anywhere have a download link to the JAR for 1.2.3 server? I just corrupted mine and most of my mods are not 1.2.4 compatible yet :(
#414 [12:28] <Grim_Reaper> The ToS states we are not allowed to give out jars
#415 [12:28] <Grim_Reaper> Only mojang may distribute them
#416 [12:28] <Grim_Reaper> So if you did not back up. sadly chances are, you wont get one
#417 [12:29] <JavaGuest713> there's no official backup source? They host the jars on S3, so unless they nuke the old versions there'd be downloads someplace
#418 [12:29] <|Anthony|> well, it seems there is some issue with the sound system for me... at some point sounds stop working and load and usage spike
#419 [12:30] <|Anthony|> try to close minecraft, it hangs on stopping sound system
#420 [12:30] <|Anthony|> sometimes minecraft crashes Xorg
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#422 [12:35] <JavaGuest713> seriously sucks that there's nowhere to get older versions, especially of the servers :(
#423 [12:37] <|Kiikun|> the files might still be there... but the links arnt publicly known
#424 [12:37] <|Kiikun|> you can still get the prereleases.
#425 [12:38] <|Kiikun|> and for server... bukkit has the server encapsulated in it... dunno how you revert it back to being seprate from bukkti though
#426 [12:38] <|Kiikun|> also....
#427 [12:38] <|Kiikun|> :oldversion
#428 [12:38] <|Kiikun|> ?? oldversion
#429 [12:38] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#430 [12:39] <JavaGuest713> does that work for the server? thought it was client-only
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#439 [13:51] <tyteen4a03> |Kiikun|: MCnostalgia
#440 [13:51] <tyteen4a03> the g is gone in vox's faq
#441 [13:52] <|Kiikun|> DopeGhoti: fix yer bot :P
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#443 [14:00] <Wug> ?? mcnostalgia
#444 [14:00] <Wug> ?? mcnostalia
#445 [14:00] <Wug> tyteen4a03: ??
#446 [14:02] <tyteen4a03> ?? oldversion
#447 [14:02] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#448 [14:02] <tyteen4a03> ^
#449 [14:02] <Wug> ??~ oldversion|The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
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#456 [14:24] <|Anthony|> is there a way to enable verbose logging output? I am having an issue and i'd like to track it down.
#457 [14:25] <sugoi> |Anthony|: client or server?
#458 [14:28] <|Anthony|> sugoi, client
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#460 [14:29] <baldux> hi
#461 [14:29] <sugoi> |Anthony|: one method is to execute the client from the command line, it'll print stuff
#462 [14:29] <sugoi> |Anthony|: what OS, and what is the problem you are experiencing, and what mods are you using on your cilent side?
#463 [14:29] <sugoi> baldux: sup
#464 [14:30] <|Anthony|> yes it does, and i have logged it, but it is not "human readable"
#465 [14:30] <sugoi> |Anthony|: well there are some bots on this channel, could they help?
#466 [14:30] <baldux> i have a problem, i have bought minecraft and when i have wrote my e-mail i have make a mistake so how can i change this?
#467 [14:31] <|Anthony|> sugoi, ubuntu 10.04 64bit openjdk and any mc version with or without mods
#468 [14:31] <sugoi> baldux: on the confirmation page of the purchase, you would have been given a number
#469 [14:32] <sugoi> baldux: but i think there is an easier way ...
#470 [14:32] * sugoi pings ops
#470 [14:32] <sugoi> i think you can login with your username and password to their site, and then migrate your account to mojang, and then change your email
#471 [14:32] <sugoi> baldux: but wait for someone in this channel to confirm+elaborate on this
#472 [14:33] <baldux> no i couldn't do that so i clic on ok and then i saw that i have make a mistake
#473 [14:33] <sugoi> |Anthony|: what is the problem tho? and could you pastebin your non-human-readable stuff ?
#474 [14:33] <|Anthony|> sugoi, this is the output up until Xorg crashes: http://pastebin.com/A3nF5H56
#475 [14:33] <sugoi> baldux: there are solutions, but it isn't my area of expertise, just wait in this channel, someone else will know
#476 [14:34] <sugoi> |Anthony|: xorg crashes! like you lose graphics and have to restart your wm?
#477 [14:34] <baldux> i have try it but i don't understand what i have to do i'm french and i don't understand all the text
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#479 [14:34] <|Anthony|> Xorg shuts down, session ends and i go back to gdm login
#480 [14:35] <baldux> ok ths for your help
#481 [14:35] <sugoi> baldux: i cannot help, but other people here, in this channel, they know more than me, maybe wait for them
#482 [14:35] <|Anthony|> there is an xsession-error.log file that could go with it, but it along with every other log file doesn't show the cause, just X crapping out
#483 [14:35] <sugoi> |Anthony|: heh, nice
#484 [14:35] <sugoi> |Anthony|: heh, nice
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#486 [14:36] <sugoi> |Anthony|: how long into your play session does this happen?
#487 [14:36] <|Anthony|> well, time varies but it seems to happen with sound events
#488 [14:37] <sugoi> but sounds does work?
#489 [14:37] <xales> |Anthony|: The X crash will probably be in gdm's log
#490 [14:38] <|Anthony|> initially, but a rain storm will start for example and sound might go out, Xorg usage spikes
#491 [14:38] <|Anthony|> sometimes i am able to catch it and close out clean, sometimes killall java, once sudo kill -9 PID.
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#495 [14:39] <|Anthony|> but if it hangs and i need to killall java, i can see that it is hanging at Shutting down sound
#496 [14:40] <|Anthony|> some phrase like that
#497 [14:41] <clarjon1> That is odd.
#498 [14:41] <|Anthony|> it's epic
#499 [14:41] <clarjon1> outta curiosity, do you have advanced opengl turned on in your graphics settings?
#500 [14:41] <|Anthony|> in minecraft's settings yes
#501 [14:42] <|Anthony|> nvidia GeForce 8600GT vinary driver 295.20
#502 [14:42] <|Anthony|> *binary
#503 [14:43] <|Anthony|> is any of that terminal output useful?
#504 [14:44] <clarjon1> looks like 'normal' debugging output
#505 [14:51] <|Anthony|> is there any reference material that will help make use of the output?
#506 [14:52] <Deathspawn> seems minecraft works better with the magic launcher... tho it won't force update from there. i don't get the random crash though.
#507 [14:52] <|Anthony|> <3 Magic Launcher
#508 [14:52] <Deathspawn> ohai |Anthony|
#509 [14:52] * |Anthony| nods
#509 [14:53] <|Anthony|> minecraft is crashing x on me
#510 [14:53] <|Anthony|> :/
#511 [14:53] <Deathspawn> ouch that's bad
#512 [14:53] <|Anthony|> yeah
#513 [14:54] <|Anthony|> kinda makes it unplayable
#514 [14:54] <xales> |Anthony|: Did you look in the gdm logs?
#515 [14:54] <Deathspawn> ever tried it in its own environment? like another wm dedicated to it, and you just swap between say, gnome, and a multi-session of gnome, or fluxbox or something?
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#517 [14:57] <|Anthony|> Deathspawn, does gdm do multiple x sessions?
#518 [15:02] <|Anthony|> hmm there is a backtrace in there
#519 [15:03] <|Anthony|> i'm probably going to do a distro hop soon anywho, but there is an issue, i'd like to identify it
#520 [15:03] <sugoi> x sessions is a feature of x, not the wm (tho the wm can have virtual sessions too of course)
#521 [15:04] <sugoi> not sure what you'd gain by having multiple tho, seems x would still crash for the same reason
#522 [15:04] <|Anthony|> hehe
#523 [15:05] <|Anthony|> http://pastebin.com/hs2Dj5f3
#524 [15:07] <xales> |Anthony|: Does appear to be a driver issue, make sure that you have the latest release (from nvidia, most distibutions do not have up to date repositories)
#525 [15:07] <sugoi> i agree, get latest
#526 [15:07] <|Anthony|> i do
#527 [15:08] <sugoi> latest x too?
#528 [15:08] <|Anthony|> well, at least i did bout 5 dys ago
#529 [15:08] <xales> |Anthony|: This is a laptop, I'm assuming?
#530 [15:08] <|Anthony|> x... doubtful
#531 [15:08] <|Anthony|> desktop
#532 [15:08] <|Anthony|> why assume lappy?
#533 [15:09] <xales> (II) Power Button: Close
#534 [15:09] <|Anthony|> oh
#535 [15:09] <xales> I seem to recall that being what the log looks like for ACPI events, but I may be wrong
#536 [15:09] <xales> ...or something is emitting ACPI close events
#537 [15:10] <|Anthony|> think it's possible that X realizes that there is an issue and inserts a ctrl-alt-bkspc event?
#538 [15:11] <|Anthony|> or something to that effect
#539 [15:11] <xales> Nope, it's just crashing
#540 [15:13] <|Anthony|> lol
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#542 [15:17] <sugoi> Antilus: i use linux quite a lot, but still (and this is probably blasphemy to the zealots) i don't expect any game to run on linux
#543 [15:17] <sugoi> and when it does, i consider it a kind miracle
#544 [15:17] <sugoi> :)
#545 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> |Kiikun|: Please, elaborate.
#546 [15:18] <Antilus> sugoi: ??
#547 [15:18] <|Kiikun|> nm. wug fixed it :P
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#549 [15:18] <sugoi> dang it
#550 [15:18] <sugoi> |Anthony|: ** ^
#551 [15:18] <sugoi> you guys need more distance in your names
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#553 [15:19] <sugoi> an* <- 5
#554 [15:19] <|Anthony|> lol
#555 [15:19] <sugoi> Ant* <- 2
#556 [15:19] <sugoi> Ant* <- 2
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#558 [15:19] <sugoi> anth* <- 1,
#559 [15:19] <sugoi> i mean come ON, 4 letter before a tab complete!?!?!
#560 [15:19] <|Anthony|> |A
#561 [15:20] <OKai> sup
#562 [15:20] <OKai> guise
#563 [15:20] <sugoi> yeah, like i'm going to hold shift, and pinky to my pipe
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#565 [15:20] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: i use index and ring :P
#566 [15:20] <|Anthony|> well you'll never tab-complete my nick if you don't
#567 [15:20] <Trizzel> Ok so I asked in another channel, they said try the support which I made a ticket. But it says they are still working on tickets from February... I bought an account and bought some one else an account. There's no way to talk to some one faster about my account saying not premium all of a sudden?
#568 [15:20] <|Anthony|> ;)
#569 [15:21] <sugoi> ;scam
#570 [15:21] * sugoi rolls eyes
#570 [15:21] <|Kiikun|> :scam
#571 [15:21] <Pedro> Hi minecraft bought yesterday at 11:00 hours, and still am not premium can anyone help me?
#572 [15:21] <|Kiikun|> ... wugbot where are you~
#573 [15:21] <sugoi> Trizzel: real accounts don't go non-premium on their own
#574 [15:21] <xales> sugoi: Well, chargeback...
#575 [15:21] <Trizzel> I have my email confirms
#576 [15:21] <Trizzel> That I bought the account
#577 [15:22] <Trizzel> So yeah I think I did
#578 [15:22] <sugoi> xales: implied that real ones don't chargeback
#579 [15:22] <Trizzel> plus I have bank statements
#580 [15:22] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: the bank may do it on its own.
#581 [15:22] <sugoi> Trizzel: where did you buy the game fom?
#582 [15:22] <Trizzel> So thanks
#583 [15:22] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: rude
#584 [15:22] <Trizzel> the game....
#585 [15:22] <xales> Trizzel: Where did you buy it from?
#586 [15:22] <Trizzel> https://www.minecraft.net/store
#587 [15:22] <Trizzel> ....
#588 [15:22] <sugoi> Pedro: there could be a hold on your purchase by your bank, call your bank and let them know the purchase was legit
#589 [15:23] <Pedro> I've done that friend, and the money has already been deposited, was made by card master card.
#590 [15:23] <Trizzel> Yeah I even have the moneybookers confirm email
#591 [15:24] <Trizzel> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-i-was-premium-now-i-m-not-
#592 [15:24] <Trizzel> and sugoi I guess it does happen
#593 [15:24] <Pedro> email with the gift code did not ...
#594 [15:25] <xales> Pedro: Where did you buy it from?
#595 [15:25] <Pedro> minecraft.net
#596 [15:25] <xales> And you bought a gift code, not an account?
#597 [15:26] <xales> Pedro: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#598 [15:26] <Pedro> I bought an account, but got the message that would get a code in my email more he failed.
#599 [15:27] <sugoi> Trizzel: i guess you could check that your bank hasn't charged back the purchase
#600 [15:27] <sugoi> if not, this is a frist i've ever seen it happen (this happens when people buy from a scam site)
#601 [15:27] <sugoi> Trizzel: if you're sure you got it from minecraft.net
#602 [15:28] <Trizzel> Yeah, 100%
#603 [15:28] <sugoi> Trizzel: and what is your username?
#604 [15:28] <Trizzel> Trizzel101
#605 [15:28] <sugoi> ;hp Trizzel1101
#606 [15:28] <sugoi> !paid Trizzel1101
#607 [15:28] <sugoi> !paid Trizzel101
#608 [15:28] <Pedro> more friendly, I paid by credit card and the value is out of my account.
#609 [15:28] <Trizzel> yeah the website says that too now, I have a the gift code active still
#610 [15:28] <Trizzel> that accounts fine
#611 [15:29] <sugoi> Trizzel: wait, gift code? sure, you have to apply the gift code
#612 [15:29] <Trizzel> just looked at my bank account too, nothing came back or anthing.
#613 [15:29] <Trizzel> No, I bought the game a month ago or so. I bought some one a gift code yesterday or the day before. I was on just a bit ago and I tried to get back on and now I can't
#614 [15:29] <Trizzel> Sorry for the confussion
#615 [15:30] <Trizzel> confusion *
#616 [15:30] <sugoi> oh, isee
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#618 [15:33] <Trizzel> So any ideas of what I can do or who I can talk to? :S
#619 [15:33] <sugoi> Trizzel: how long ago did you buy your Trizzel101 account?
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#621 [15:33] <Trizzel> Well, I have the email for the purchase complete on March 1st
#622 [15:34] <Trizzel> With the transaction ID and all that
#623 [15:34] <sugoi> and stopped working once you bought that gift code
#624 [15:34] <Trizzel> Not right away
#625 [15:34] <Trizzel> It's been up for 24 hours at least
#626 [15:35] <sugoi> that is quite bizarre
#627 [15:35] <sugoi> does indeed sound like an issue on their end
#628 [15:35] <Trizzel> yeah, march 21st is when i bought that
#629 [15:35] <sugoi> the ticket solution is your best option
#630 [15:35] <Trizzel> Damn, that kinda sucks. They are only at February lol :(
#631 [15:36] <Trizzel> for the tickets
#632 [15:36] <sugoi> where do you play?
#633 [15:36] <Trizzel> I have my own server
#634 [15:36] <sugoi> offline server?
#635 [15:36] <Trizzel> Some friends introduced it to me and said I should host one
#636 [15:36] <Trizzel> no
#637 [15:36] <Trizzel> online
#638 [15:37] <Trizzel> :(
#639 [15:37] <Trizzel> What was that lol
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#641 [15:37] <|Kiikun|> flood protection.
#642 [15:37] <Trizzel> oh, sorry
#643 [15:37] <sugoi> Trizzel: what is your irc client
#644 [15:37] <sugoi> ?
#645 [15:37] <Trizzel> chatzilla
#646 [15:38] <Trizzel> I use firefox so I thought might as well
#647 [15:38] <Trizzel> Says you tried to message me but I have +g
#648 [15:38] <Trizzel> ?
#649 [15:38] <sugoi> yay
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#651 [15:40] <Trizzel> What do I do about the +g situation. You sent me something else
#652 [15:40] <Trizzel> xD
#653 [15:41] <|Kiikun|> /mode Trizzel -g
#654 [15:42] <Trizzel> Oh ok, why is that mode on..?
#655 [15:42] <|Kiikun|> chatzilla enabled it be default?
#656 [15:42] <Trizzel> Ah
#657 [15:43] <Trizzel> Oh I see why, it was my fault
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#659 [15:46] <zkxs> !paid ;paid
#660 [15:46] <zkxs> D:
#661 [15:46] <|Kiikun|> zkxs: depr
#662 [15:46] <zkxs> oh, wugbot isn't here :P
#663 [15:51] <sugoi> zkxs: haha
#664 [15:52] <sugoi> !paid !paid foo
#665 [15:52] <sugoi> :(
#666 [15:52] <|Kiikun|> you both foos!
#667 [15:52] <zkxs> !paidforsomreasonaubotignorestheendofcommands WugBot
#668 [15:52] <zkxs> ?
#669 [15:53] <zkxs> perhaps I have my bots mixed up...
#670 [15:57] * |Kiikun| crys at failstreaming
#670 [15:59] <Boreeas> !help
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#676 [16:31] <JohnEBH> !paid Player982
#677 [16:31] <JohnEBH> o.o"
#678 [16:32] <zkxs> What kink of username is that?
#679 [16:32] <zkxs> s/kink/kind
#680 [16:32] <Pepper> Sounds like MCP
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#691 [17:24] <Jesper> I got a servere where we wanna run mods on, but since it is hard for some pep to install, is it okay to share the minecraft.jar file with the mods?
#692 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> It is not okay.
#693 [17:25] <xales> Could share a binary diff though.
#694 [17:25] <Jesper> is a binary diff some you make by you self?
#695 [17:27] <xales> It would be something you have to make, yes.
#696 [17:28] <Jesper> what program do i use for that?
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#698 [17:31] <sugoi> Jesper: there are tools to help people injects mods into their minecraft.jar's
#699 [17:31] <sugoi> mcpatcher, for example
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#702 [17:36] <Jesper> mcpatcher is to complicated! Do you know of a program that you put the mods into and it makes a installer you can give to pep so they only have to chose the directry and click install
#703 [17:38] <sugoi> well first, .minecraft install path is non negociable (always to %appdata%/.minecraft)
#704 [17:39] <sugoi> and 2ndly, mcpatcher is a good tool, i don't know of any better nor more simple
#705 [17:43] <Jesper> then my guess is that you are not a kid that haven learnt english yet
#706 [17:43] <sugoi> heh, no and no :) but -
#707 [17:43] <sugoi> can you go to their house and set it up for them?
#708 [17:43] <Jesper> no
#709 [17:43] <sugoi> or, can you use remote desktop?
#710 [17:44] <Jesper> no to many peps
#711 [17:45] <Jesper> i know how to make a installer whit winrar but i can not get it to add files and delete files in the minecraft.jar
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#713 [17:48] <sugoi> Jesper: you can use `jar xf minecraft.jar` to extract the files
#714 [17:48] <sugoi> then write a script to call that, and add/del the files you want
#715 [17:49] <sugoi> then `jar cf jarfile -C dir` to create/compress it again
#716 [17:51] <Jesper> yes i have tryed thoes but what do i use so the commands work?
#717 [17:52] <sugoi> i'm not sure what you mean --- but those commands come from installing java
#718 [17:52] <auscompgeek> I'd just stick to MCPatcher if I were you though.
#719 [17:52] <sugoi> auscompgeek: tried that, said it's too hard
#720 [17:53] <Jesper> sugoi okay i will try working whit it again then
#721 [17:53] <auscompgeek> I don't see what's hard in browsing to a .zip and o
#722 [17:53] <auscompgeek> -.- silly mobile device
#723 [17:54] <auscompgeek> but you get my point
#724 [17:54] <sugoi> auscompgeek: _i_ do, yes
#725 [17:54] <sugoi> Jesper: i think i'm wrong about where jar comes from, i'm looking it up
#726 [17:54] <Jesper> okay, i will be hanging in her then :)
#727 [17:55] * sugoi is NOT a java guy, .net kicks butt
#727 [17:55] <sugoi> ok, i think jar comes with the jdk
#728 [17:55] <sugoi> that makes sense
#729 [17:56] <sugoi> and your users (the 'kids') are only going to have the jre
#730 [17:56] <sugoi> i recommend making a video for them, posting said video on youtube, and email a link to mcpatcher, the mods, and your youtube video
#731 [17:56] <sugoi> :)
#732 [17:56] <sugoi> honestly, kids learn fast
#733 [17:57] <sugoi> my boy turned two yesterday, you can ask him "how old are you", and he replies with two finger up, "two!"
#734 [17:57] <Jesper> yes but its easy for them to download a file and locate .minecraft and click install
#735 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Aw
#736 [17:57] <sugoi> :)
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#738 [17:57] <sugoi> Jesper: they don't need to locate .minecraft
#739 [17:57] <sugoi> oh, i think i see what you're saying
#740 [17:58] <sugoi> Jesper: look, i think you're making this harder than it needs to be
#741 [17:58] <sugoi> Jesper: have _you_ used mcpatcher?
#742 [17:58] <Jesper> for my self yes, for others no
#743 [17:58] <Jesper> yes destryed my minecraft the 2 first time and gave up
#744 [17:59] * GreyVulpine snrks
#744 [17:59] <sugoi> ...
#745 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-11-124update-322-mcpatcher-hd-fix-234-02/
#746 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> You'll find that it has been updated for 1.2.4, and there's even a nifty installation video on youtube there
#747 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Even if you can't install it yourself, I'm sure your users can.
#748 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> There's detailed instructions in that first post, on how to use MCPatcher to install mods
#749 [18:00] <Jesper> lol i think there are to manny buttons :D
#750 [18:00] * sugoi laughs
#750 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Indeed. It's a powerful tool
#751 [18:01] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: "...i'm sure your users can." :)
#752 [18:01] <Jesper> mcpatcher is my backup plan if the other fails ;)
#753 [18:01] <sugoi> Jesper: we feel if you take the time to learn how mcpatcher works, you'll see that a very simple (and best) solution
#754 [18:01] <sugoi> >is<
#755 [18:03] <Jesper> you are not gonna convince me :P
#756 [18:03] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: is vanilla 16x textures?
#757 [18:03] <sugoi> Jesper: that's fine, no skin off my back
#758 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> Yes sugoi
#759 [18:04] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: word if vanilla will support higher?
#760 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> I haven't heard anything
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#762 [18:08] <D3C0D3R> Hello, is there any way to aquire a Minecraft 1.1 Server.jar? all i can currently find are 1.2.4 or 1.1 (exe's)
#763 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> There is not
#764 [18:08] <D3C0D3R> so i just have to sit and wait for all of the mods to update?
#765 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Unless you want to shoot for a bukkit server. That .jar is still available on the bukkit site
#766 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#767 [18:08] <D3C0D3R> great help
#768 [18:09] <sugoi> D3C0D3R: wait for the mods to update? if you are using...
#769 [18:09] <Boreeas> http://assets.minecraft.net/11w50a/minecraft_server.jar
#770 [18:09] * sugoi grunts
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#776 [18:47] <Pedruxx> Could anyone help me? bought minecraft further'm not premium.
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#778 [18:49] <Pedruxx> Could anyone help me? bought minecraft further'm not premium.
#779 [18:50] <lemon-rev> Pedruxx when did you buy it
#780 [18:51] <sugoi> Pedruxx: and where
#781 [18:51] * lemon-rev was next question lol
#781 [18:51] * sugoi wants some lemonaid
#781 [18:51] <Morrolan> Also check whether your card actually got charged the money, or whether the payment got blocked by your credit card provider.
#782 [18:52] * Morrolan thinks we've covered all the possible solutions now
#782 [18:52] * lemon-rev sugoi pours some lemonaid and shoves the glass over
#782 [18:52] <lemon-rev> all these questions and no responce :P
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#784 [18:52] <sugoi> :)
#785 [18:52] * sugoi enjoys his lemonaid
#785 [18:53] <Pepper> Lemonade
#786 [18:53] <Pepper> Grenades
#787 [18:53] <Pepper> And gasoline
#788 [18:53] <sugoi> ah, spelling
#789 [18:53] <sugoi> you wicked fiend
#790 [18:53] <sugoi> :)
#791 [18:53] <Pedruxx> friendlier payment is ok, the content has already been removed.
#792 [18:54] <sugoi> Pedruxx: when and where?
#793 [18:54] <sugoi> did you buy it, from minecraft.net?
#794 [18:55] <Pedruxx> yes, I bought last night at 11 hours and still not received the email.
#795 [18:56] <xales> Where did you buy it *from*?
#796 [18:57] <sugoi> Pedruxx: like minecraft.net?
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#798 [18:57] <sugoi> Pedruxx: also, just because the money is not in your account doesn't mean the bank sent it to mojang. the money could be on hold. call your bank and say the transaction is good
#799 [18:58] <sugoi> Pedruxx: also, did you use a prepaid card? or a true credit card?
#800 [18:58] <Wug> :payment/stopped
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#802 [18:58] <Wug> :payment/stopped
#803 [18:58] <WugBot> payment/stopped: Banks, credit card companies, etc. frequently stop minecraft purchases for your protection because they are international transactions. You may have to call your financial institution and ask that they approve the transfer.
#804 [18:58] <WugBot> payment/stopped: If you're not sure what to say, tell them: "I would like to make an international purchase and payment is being declined. How would I go about approving the purchase?"
#805 [18:58] <sugoi> Pedruxx: read what WugBot said ^^
#806 [19:03] <Pedruxx> real credit card
#807 [19:03] <sugoi> Pedruxx: then call your bank
#808 [19:04] <sugoi> Pedruxx: and where did you buy it from!?!
#809 [19:04] <sugoi> minecraft.net?
#810 [19:04] <Pedruxx> yes
#811 [19:04] <sugoi> Pedruxx: did you get a confirmation email?
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#813 [19:05] <Pedruxx> yes
#814 [19:05] <sugoi> Pedruxx: then call your bank, ask if money is on hold, and allow it to be released
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#818 [19:10] <cole36912> !check 98.155.13.134
#819 [19:10] <cole36912> ip
#820 [19:11] <cole36912> ;ip
#821 [19:11] <WugBot> IP address of cole36912 is: 98.155.13.134
#822 [19:12] <cole36912> !check 98.155.13.134
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#826 [19:19] <valgarto> Hi there.
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#828 [19:19] <Morrolan> "/o\"
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#830 [19:21] <valgarto> I have a problem with my Minecraft Texturepack. I used the newest mcpatcher and an 1.2.4 texturepack (remixpack HD 3.1) but minecraft cant't find it
#831 [19:21] <valgarto> Even so every other texture pack i tried to use
#832 [19:22] <Morrolan> Eh, from what I know you can't put HD texture packs into the texture packs folder, you have to throw them into the .jar directly.
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#834 [19:23] <valgarto> Is this new? I used old LB HD Texturepack until yesterday with the normal folder
#835 [19:24] <Pepper> Morrolan: They work fine from the folder
#836 [19:24] <Pepper> Or should
#837 [19:25] <Morrolan> They do? Okay then.
#838 [19:25] <sugoi> valgarto: maybe you have your texture pack zip'd too many times?
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#840 [19:25] <sugoi> valgarto: it should be zip/content
#841 [19:26] <sugoi> valgarto: and just for kicks, make sure you are looking in the right place: %appdata%/.minecraft/texturepacks
#842 [19:26] <valgarto> I used a new installed version of minecraft, then the mc patcher and then copyed the fresh downloaded texturepack into the folder. it was only zipped one time
#843 [19:26] <sugoi> valgarto: for kicks, open the texturepacks folder from the game's interface
#844 [19:27] <sugoi> do you know what i'm referring to?
#845 [19:27] <valgarto> yes, just tried and there is the content
#846 [19:27] <sugoi> :/
#847 [19:28] <valgarto> yesterday it worked, but with some graphic bugs because of the old hd pack version
#848 [19:28] <sugoi> valgarto: i'd start over then
#849 [19:28] <sugoi> vanilla mc, patch, copy in
#850 [19:28] <valgarto> now it doesnt even show the pack in the texturepack list??
#851 [19:29] <valgarto> ok, im starting over then.
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#853 [19:34] <valgarto> Hmm, didnt work. It still dont show the Texturepack in the List.... How can it "throw" the HD textures direct to the .jar?
#854 [19:34] <sugoi> what does that?
#855 [19:35] <sugoi> valgarto: perchance, your hd texture isn't compatable (but i didn't think this caused it not to show in the list)
#856 [19:35] <valgarto> Morrolan Eh, from what I know you can't put HD texture packs into the texture packs folder, you have to throw them into the .jar directly.
#857 [19:35] <sugoi> valgarto: that's not been my experience - either that is an option, or was in older versins
#858 [19:35] <sugoi> versions*
#859 [19:37] <valgarto> hmm, ok. maybe i should try another patcher
#860 [19:37] <sugoi> can you test with a 16x texture on vanilla?
#861 [19:37] <sugoi> then at least prove it works
#862 [19:38] <sugoi> then place the hd in the folder, see if it is shown, but won't be able to use it (sans patch)
#863 [19:38] <sugoi> then see if it 'disappears' when you patch it
#864 [19:38] <valgarto> good idea, i ll try
#865 [19:40] * sugoi learned 'sans' from 'sans serif'
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#867 [19:46] <awfulwaffle> I'm trying to join a server that still uses 1.1
#868 [19:47] <sugoi> awfulwaffle: then you need client 1.1
#869 [19:47] <abzolutezero> is the loggin server down? i can't get in all day
#870 [19:47] <sugoi> !login
#871 [19:47] <abzolutezero> !login
#872 [19:47] <abzolutezero> ?
#873 [19:47] <abzolutezero> oh ok
#874 [19:47] <sugoi> abzolutezero: it appears to be fine, check the admin of your server
#875 [19:47] <awfulwaffle> Hrm, I'm looking for 1.1, but I don't know where I can find it.
#876 [19:47] <sugoi> Boreeas: what did you say about older versions?
#877 [19:47] <abzolutezero> i am the admin of my server lol. i mean i can't get online with minecraft at all
#878 [19:47] <sugoi> abzolutezero: what is the error?
#879 [19:48] <sugoi> abzolutezero: can you log into minecraft.net in your browser?
#880 [19:48] <abzolutezero> i can't get in with the launcher, also with the technic launcher. "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#881 [19:48] <sugoi> awfulwaffle: you can try:
#882 [19:48] <abzolutezero> i have not tried browser version. i'll try it now
#883 [19:49] <valgarto> sugoi Didnt work. The 16x Pack i used was ModernCraft
#884 [19:49] <sugoi> ?? oldversion
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#886 [19:49] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#887 [19:49] <sugoi> awfulwaffle: ^
#888 [19:49] <sugoi> valgarto: something is not right about your situation, it should work that way
#889 [19:49] <sugoi> i'm out of ideas tho :/
#890 [19:50] <valgarto> it was the newest version from the MC Forum
#891 [19:50] <abzolutezero> ok, so i CAN get in from browser but i'm really trying to get on with my technic launcher.
#892 [19:50] <sugoi> valgarto: 'it' you mean mcpather?
#893 [19:50] <abzolutezero> also i can't get in when i load the vanilla launcher
#894 [19:50] <sugoi> oh you mean the texture?
#895 [19:51] <awfulwaffle> alright, thanks :)
#896 [19:51] <sugoi> abzolutezero: sounds like an issue with technic, have you tried the vanilla laucnher?
#897 [19:51] <sugoi> launcher*
#898 [19:51] <abzolutezero> yes. same problem
#899 [19:51] <valgarto> i loaded everything from the forum
#900 [19:51] <sugoi> valgarto: you loaded everything? what on earth does that mean?
#901 [19:52] <abzolutezero> it says can't connect. also the technic launcher says "the tumblr seems to be down" feels like something is blocking the connection here somehow
#902 [19:52] <abzolutezero> technic launcher says "Oh Noes! Our Tumblr Feed is Down!"
#903 [19:53] <valgarto> sugoi That means i loaded the mcpatcher and the texturepacks from the official minecraft forum
#904 [19:53] <sugoi> abzolutezero: sounds a little like anti-virus to me
#905 [19:53] <abzolutezero> so weird because avast isn't blocking that i know of... minecraft.net works... i have no clue what is going on here
#906 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> abzolutezero - What do you see when you go to: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#907 [19:53] <abzolutezero> that's what i though but avast says no blockings
#908 [19:53] <sugoi> valgarto: but did you try a 16x texture without any patching (pure vanilla client)
#909 [19:53] <abzolutezero> "badlogin"
#910 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> I'm thinking security software then
#911 [19:54] <abzolutezero> ok just turned off avast.. still can't connect
#912 [19:54] <sugoi> abzolutezero: are you plugged into the internet?
#913 [19:54] <valgarto> sugoi yes, the official ModernCraft 16x Texture. It wasnt found by the game either
#914 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> What version of java do you run?
#915 [19:54] * sugoi hopes the humor is not lost
#915 [19:54] <abzolutezero> LMAO nice sugoi
#916 [19:54] <sugoi> :)
#917 [19:55] <sugoi> valgarto: well like i said, what you are saying 'here' is correct, something else is wrong :(
#918 [19:55] <abzolutezero> i just updated to java7. maybe that's the issue?
#919 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> That might be it
#920 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Java 7's been known to do this as well
#921 [19:55] <sugoi> abzolutezero: yep, stick with java6
#922 [19:56] <abzolutezero> gay. cuz my tekkit server wouldn't launch due to issues with java6, so i updated, but i hadn't tried anything else b4 that
#923 [19:56] <sugoi> abzolutezero: did you try the latest java 6? (update 31)
#924 [19:57] <valgarto> sugoi im going to get an old 1.2.3 version and use the old LB Pack, hope that works
#925 [19:57] <abzolutezero> >_>.... not sure... i'll try that too. i'm gonna see if i can launch server with java7 and everything else with java6
#926 [19:57] <valgarto> Thanks all for your help :)
#927 [19:59] <sugoi> valgarto: good luck
#928 [20:00] <abzolutezero> so what does it mean that the login link says "bad login"?
#929 [20:01] <abzolutezero> i'm on update 29, so i'm patching up to 31 now.
#930 [20:01] <sugoi> abzolutezero: bad login means bad username or password
#931 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> If it didn't say anything, that would be bad
#932 [20:02] <sugoi> abzolutezero: grey wanted to see if you were able to ...
#933 [20:02] <sugoi> that ^
#934 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> If you're getting bad login, it means your computer can access the login server, which was what I was testing for
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#936 [20:03] <sugoi> abzolutezero: if tekkit didn't like update 29, i don't know if it is going to care about 31. you read that tekkit depends on java 7?
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#941 [20:24] <awfulwaffle> Ok, I'm having trouble
#942 [20:24] <awfulwaffle> I've tried deleting all of my minecraft info
#943 [20:24] <awfulwaffle> I'm trying to downgrade to 1.1
#944 [20:24] <awfulwaffle> and everytime
#945 [20:24] <awfulwaffle> it comes up with
#946 [20:25] <awfulwaffle> Error> The filed in C:\users\xx\appdata\roaming\.minecraft\bin are not for the current version or are not vanilla.
#947 [20:26] <Boreeas> Did you try to remove the bin folder?
#948 [20:26] <awfulwaffle> I removed all of the minecraft data that was in the .minecraft, and installed it fresh
#949 [20:29] <Boreeas> Hmm
#950 [20:29] <awfulwaffle> Trying it again
#951 [20:29] <awfulwaffle> It told me to run launcher and login
#952 [20:29] <mib_lz2iv9> Boreeas
#953 [20:29] <Boreeas> mib_lz2iv9: Yes?
#954 [20:29] <awfulwaffle> Yep, I redid that, and it's doing the same thing. :(
#955 [20:29] <mib_lz2iv9> I'm not who you think I am...
#956 [20:30] <mib_lz2iv9> Do you have experience with dynmap?
#957 [20:30] <Boreeas> mib_lz2iv9: I didn't expect you to be anybody, really. And no, I don't. The dynmap channel you are in is probbly the best place to ask
#958 [20:30] <mib_lz2iv9> They're afk
#959 [20:32] <Boreeas> TheNytangel: Log in to your nickserv account already, so I get relevant /whois output :P
#960 [20:32] <TheNytangel> Eh...
#961 [20:32] <TheNytangel> It got deleted
#962 [20:32] <Boreeas> Ah. You didn't log in for 30 days?
#963 [20:32] * GreyVulpine points and laughs
#963 [20:32] <TheNytangel> 30 days?
#964 [20:32] <TheNytangel> Way longer...
#965 [20:32] * TheNytangel points and laughs at GreyVulpine
#965 [20:32] <TheNytangel> More work for you
#966 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> We
#967 [20:33] <TheNytangel> Sure
#968 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> We're not listed in the support section anymore. Been pretty stale here
#969 [20:33] <TheNytangel> Stale like crackers...
#970 [20:33] <Boreeas> Oh, we are not?
#971 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> The absence of the constant flood of mibbit users didn't tip you off?
#972 [20:34] <TheNytangel> http://www.minecraft.net/community
#973 [20:35] <Boreeas> Eh, we had slow days before
#974 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> It's been a slow 3 months..
#975 [20:36] <TheNytangel> Anyways...
#976 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> Answer's no.
#977 [20:36] <TheNytangel> I know
#978 [20:37] * TheNytangel goes to bukkit
#978 [20:37] <Boreeas> GreyVulpine: Eh, that would explain it, I guess I just got used to it already :P
#979 [20:37] * GreyVulpine hehs
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#980 [20:43] <sugoi> honestly, makes me sad just a little
#981 [20:44] <sugoi> i feel you guys have worked so hard to support ppl, and then we (we?, not that i'm in the 'we') get nix'd from their site
#982 [20:44] * sugoi sniffles
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#986 [21:17] <abzolutezero> hey all, i'm back from earlier and the problem with my launchers was that i had updated to java7 and it was broke as shit not letting the launchers connect to anything
#987 [21:17] <Wug> we see that a lot
#988 [21:17] <abzolutezero> so i removed it and updated java6 to .31. working now, just my tekkit server is broken without java7 lol. FML
#989 [21:17] <Wug> not so much anymore but we used to see it a lot
#990 [21:18] <Wug> chances are if you uninstall all versions and install the most recent of 7 it will work properly
#991 [21:18] <Wug> :j7
#992 [21:18] <WugBot> j7: You can try java 7 here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-7u2-download-1377135.html
#993 [21:18] <Wug> thats out of date
#994 [21:18] <Wug> ;~ j7 You can try java 7 here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-7u3-download-1501631.html
#995 [21:19] <abzolutezero> hm... maybe later. just feel so lazy right now LOL. so you are saying that generally java7 works ok with minecraft vanilla?
#996 [21:19] <abzolutezero> jdk-7u3-windows-x64.exe <<< that's the one i installed a while ago
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#998 [21:21] <Wug> abzolutezero: the only time ive ever seen the connection issues is when remnants of old versions interfere
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#1000 [21:21] <Wug> unless you removed all existing java installs before installing 7, you might benefit from trying again later
#1001 [21:22] <abzolutezero> ah i see... ok well i'll give that a shot later. putting baby to bed soon and probably gonna play some TOR with the wife. was trying to get her to try out MC but couldn't get my server running
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#1010 [21:55] <funnyman2213> i need smp help
#1011 [21:57] <lemon-rev> like what ?
#1012 [21:58] <funnyman2213> how do i portfoward
#1013 [21:58] <lemon-rev> please google how to, put how to in front of portforward :P
#1014 [21:59] <funnyman2213> i tryed that and none of the at least 15 different methods worked
#1015 [22:00] <funnyman2213> i can get on but my friend cant
#1016 [22:00] <lemon-rev> hm, it should be as simple as login to your router / goto portforward or port settings and setting up 65535 to a port and make sure you have the correct ip
#1017 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> 25565
#1018 [22:00] <lemon-rev> whos the server
#1019 [22:00] <lemon-rev> lol, me doupe
#1020 [22:00] <lemon-rev> sorry :(
#1021 [22:01] <TheNytangel> Lol
#1022 [22:02] <funnyman2213> lemon-rev: i have already got into my router and set it all up but he still cant get on
#1023 [22:02] <lemon-rev> so you can log in but no one else ?
#1024 [22:02] <funnyman2213> yes
#1025 [22:02] <lemon-rev> are you running a firewall and antivirus that could be blocking others
#1026 [22:03] <funnyman2213> yes
#1027 [22:03] <funnyman2213> its bitdiffender
#1028 [22:03] <lemon-rev> can you test if you tempararly disable that, to see if you can get your friend on your server
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#1030 [22:04] <funnyman2213> idk how
#1031 [22:04] <lemon-rev> and are you running the latest server file ?
#1032 [22:04] <funnyman2213> yes its the latest
#1033 [22:04] <Nathan2055> Can I ask a ridiculous Nether question?
#1034 [22:04] <TheNytangel> Yes.
#1035 [22:04] <lemon-rev> on the task bar can you see the icon for it, right click on it, and see if thats one of the options
#1036 [22:05] <funnyman2213> it has a game mode to let me do stuff
#1037 [22:05] <funnyman2213> like this
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#1039 [22:12] <cccangel> hi. i have been trying to track down the proper way to recover my account. i purchased the game 5/6/11 and i know the card number. moneybrookers says they didn't process the payment so im having trouble finding a transaction id or someway to recover change the email address so i can recover the account.
#1040 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Did you use Paypal?
#1041 [22:17] <cccangel> I dont remember since its been a long time since i bought the game.
#1042 [22:17] <cccangel> i know i entered in my card info.
#1043 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Did you keep the email that you got upon payment? It would say either the paypal transaction ID, or the moneybooker ID.
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#1045 [22:18] <Nathan2055> Ugh...
#1046 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Either way, you'll use one of them to contact Mojang through: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1047 [22:19] <Nathan2055> Curse you, never ending wave of computer errors!
#1048 [22:19] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#1049 [22:19] <Nathan2055> First my PC slows to a crawl, then Firefox crashes, then it all goes down...
#1050 [22:19] <cccangel> well i thought my game account was associated with one email so i tried to recover it to a hotmail account.. but im not receiving any emails from mojang.
#1051 [22:19] <CrusaderDeleters> I have one, it's in my newer program. It is trying to kill me.
#1052 [22:19] <Nathan2055> Anyway, my question was, I'm stuck in the Nether.
#1053 [22:20] <Nathan2055> I lost my exit portal.
#1054 [22:20] <Nathan2055> I've got good stuff, so I don't want to kill myself to get out.
#1055 [22:20] <Nathan2055> What can I do?
#1056 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> cccangel - Check all the email addresses you use?
#1057 [22:20] <cccangel> the minecraft website says that there is a username associated with that email...
#1058 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Nathan2055 - inventory edit?
#1059 [22:21] <cccangel> GreyVulpine: i had to recover my hotmail account because it got hacked so i deleted it.
#1060 [22:21] <Nathan2055> I try to avoid hacking.
#1061 [22:21] <Nathan2055> Of course, I could just use the updated MCEdit.
#1062 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Then there's no real legit way of getting the obsidian to form the portal
#1063 [22:22] <Nathan2055> Well, I'm going to try two things.
#1064 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> cccangel - Either way, you'll need to prove to Mojang that you paid for the account, and to forward the transaction ID to Mojang for them to recover the account for you
#1065 [22:22] <Nathan2055> 1. See if I can find the exit portal.
#1066 [22:22] <Omega_Guardian> always write down important info
#1067 [22:22] <Nathan2055> 2. TRY TO GET THIS THING TO RUN!!
#1068 [22:22] <Nathan2055> I hate this sluggish PC...
#1069 [22:23] <Nathan2055> Wish there was a way to speed-boost things.
#1070 [22:23] <cccangel> GreyVulpine: well i was trying to find the transaction ID but all i can find is my banking transaction history?
#1071 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Could you look at your banking history, see if it was processed through paypal or Moneybookers?
#1072 [22:24] <Nathan2055> Just noticed: Nobody updated the description for 1.2.4. (And what is MCBans?)
#1073 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Think of MCbans as punkbuster
#1074 [22:25] <Nathan2055> Huh?
#1075 [22:25] <cccangel> it actually says WWW.MINECRAFT.NEWWW.MINEC STOCKHOLM
#1076 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> A way for server owners to share banlists
#1077 [22:25] <Nathan2055> Ah. What's wrong with that?
#1078 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Database was hacked sometime ago, drama ensued.
#1079 [22:26] <Nathan2055> cccangel: Stockholm, Sweden is where Mojang is located.
#1080 [22:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Oi
#1081 [22:26] <Nathan2055> GreyVulpine: Yes. That makes since.
#1082 [22:26] <CrusaderDeleters> was there damage?
#1083 [22:26] * Nathan2055 imagines how bad THAT would be...
#1083 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> I can't tell you.
#1084 [22:26] <Nathan2055> Why not?
#1085 [22:26] <cccangel> Nathan2055: i know that, but it doesn't say who processed the transaction and when i tried to contact paypal their system is trying to ask me for my account information. i dont have an account.
#1086 [22:27] <CrusaderDeleters> how long ago was it?
#1087 [22:27] <CrusaderDeleters> I might remember it.
#1088 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Admin of MCbans at first, denied everything. This network was host to the #mcbans channel, which got attacked
#1089 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Brought down the esper network for a day or two
#1090 [22:27] <Nathan2055> Wait, so the channel was hacked?
#1091 [22:27] <Nathan2055> Wow.
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#1093 [22:27] <Nathan2055> That's bad.
#1094 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> No. The database of mcbans was hacked
#1095 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> usernames and password from the forums were compromised
#1096 [22:28] <meow> what was!?!?
#1097 [22:28] <Nathan2055> MCBans.
#1098 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> mcbans
#1099 [22:28] <meow> what that..
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#1101 [22:28] <meow> did they get my password?
#1102 [22:28] <montezuma> Test
#1103 [22:28] * Nathan2055 builds time machine
#1103 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Admin(s) of MCbans, at first, played down the threat, saying it was all under control
#1104 [22:28] <montezuma> Sup guys?
#1105 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> meow - No
#1106 [22:29] <montezuma> Connect to mc.diamcraft.com if you want. It's a Faction server
#1107 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Not unless you used MCbans a few months ago
#1108 [22:29] <meow> good cuz my minecraft pass is the same as every other pass i own
#1109 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> montezuma - Please don't advertise here
#1110 [22:29] <montezuma> Okay dokee.
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#1112 [22:29] <Nathan2055> It's a third party MC ban list sharer.
#1113 [22:29] <ngc0202> Heya
#1114 [22:29] <cccangel> So i am trying to figure out how to get a hold of a rep at paypal (being thats probably my solution to this madness) but i dont know how to jsut talk to someone. its asking for account info.
#1115 [22:29] <Nathan2055> montezuma: Use #smp
#1116 [22:29] <ngc0202> What's the best mapper that works with the latest version?
#1117 [22:29] <montezuma> Ah,, Heading there.
#1118 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> cccangel - Check out the paypal website. There's a place to contact them there
#1119 [22:29] <ngc0202> For multiplayer
#1120 [22:30] <Nathan2055> ngc0202: You mean world editor?
#1121 [22:30] <cccangel> GreyVulpine: yes i saw that, called the number, but its asking for account info.
#1122 [22:30] <ngc0202> Nah I just want it to generate a map of the world
#1123 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> probably something like dynmap, or..
#1124 [22:30] <Nathan2055> MCEdit has gotten an unofficial official update.
#1125 [22:30] <meow> i still havnt been able to update my video card :'(
#1126 [22:30] <ngc0202> Like, what was it, cartographer, or something
#1127 [22:30] <meow> byby
#1128 [22:31] <Nathan2055> GreyVulpine: You were saying?
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#1130 [22:31] <Nathan2055> ngc0202: I've heard of it, never used it.
#1131 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1132 [22:31] <Nathan2055> MCBans, played down threat.
#1133 [22:31] <Nathan2055> Wow, 8 people active.
#1134 [22:32] <Nathan2055> That's a new record for me.
#1135 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Some group got annoyed at the lack of disclosure.
#1136 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> They attacked #mcbans here, basically taking down espernet for a day or so
#1137 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> #mcbans was forced to move to another network
#1138 [22:32] <Nathan2055> That's bad.
#1139 [22:32] <cccangel> the bigger question is why i am not getting an email from mojang to my hotmail account for recovering username when I created a new account to my gmail and i get an email instantly?
#1140 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Since then, I can't really tell you what happened to the staff at #mcbans, people quit.
#1141 [22:33] <Nathan2055> Better remember to avoid that.
#1142 [22:33] <Nathan2055> cccangel: Hold up, what account did you use to sign up?
#1143 [22:34] <Nathan2055> E-mail, I mean?
#1144 [22:34] <cccangel> Nathan2055: i used a hotmail account... had to delete it because i used it for wow, someone hacked it so i deleted the account and just recently microsoft helped me recover the account but now i am not getting any emails from mojang.
#1145 [22:34] <cccangel> i sent a test email from gmail, and it came through
#1146 [22:34] <Nathan2055> Try again.
#1147 [22:35] <cccangel> i used username recovery multiple times (typing the hotmail address) and password recovery and i m getting nothing
#1148 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Check all your email addresses. Perhaps you used another email account?
#1149 [22:36] <Nathan2055> Hmm. I'm not sure.
#1150 [22:37] <cccangel> GreyVulpine: being that was back in May last year, and I deleted another email around the same time, I never wrote it down but I dont remember what it was... :(
#1151 [22:37] <cccangel> someone from my gaming clan only saw this email..
#1152 [22:37] <cccangel> hotmail
#1153 [22:37] <CrusaderDeleters> http://piratepad.net/EsixfjMCTO
#1154 [22:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Tell me which method looks neater
#1155 [22:38] <CrusaderDeleters> They are both the same exact method.
#1156 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Dear.. god.
#1157 [22:39] <Nathan2055> I'm off to try and escape the Nether (again).
#1158 [22:40] <CrusaderDeleters> which one looks better, grey?
#1159 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> 2nd one, definitely
#1160 [22:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Haha
#1161 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> But it's your code. You'll have to be the one to maintain it
#1162 [22:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Lemme skype quote.
#1163 [22:41] <oldtopman> CrusaderDeleters: Your language of choice doesn't do switch/case?
#1164 [22:41] <CrusaderDeleters> java can do cases.
#1165 [22:41] <CrusaderDeleters> I just didn't do that.
#1166 [22:41] <CrusaderDeleters> it's a school project at that.
#1167 [22:42] <CrusaderDeleters> Someone said that the second one was messier than the first
#1168 [22:42] <CrusaderDeleters> When I unraveled it, it looked like crud.
#1169 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Whitespace is necessary for readability, but the first one is just in excess
#1170 [22:42] <CrusaderDeleters> yeah
#1171 [22:43] <CrusaderDeleters> That's how I was taught in my class. But I tend to rather other methods.
#1172 [22:43] <CrusaderDeleters> XD
#1173 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> As long as you comment your code, there should be no worries
#1174 [22:43] <CrusaderDeleters> I do.
#1175 [22:43] <CrusaderDeleters> I do it a lot.
#1176 [22:43] <oldtopman> CrusaderDeleters: Fixed it.
#1177 [22:44] <CrusaderDeleters> And yet I still got stuck at soemthing for like 7 hours.
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#1179 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> I have absolutely no idea what you're doing with that logic, but the one at the bottom should be valid as well
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#1181 [22:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah
#1182 [22:50] <CrusaderDeleters> I see what you attempted to do there.
#1183 [22:51] <cccangel> Okay so its not a hotmail issue. I created an account to use another newer hotmail account and I am getting emails from mojang. What the heck, it says that this one hotmail email is on record but im not getting anything from mojang.
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#1185 [22:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Hrm...
#1186 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Possibly spam protection
#1187 [22:54] <Wahsu> Hey, where did you guys learn java?
#1188 [22:54] <Eddie> University.
#1189 [22:54] <CrusaderDeleters> High School
#1190 [22:54] * GreyVulpine was born with the natural skill of programming ingrained.
#1190 [22:54] <CrusaderDeleters> I was born with the natural of logics.
#1191 [22:54] <Eddie> So was I
#1192 [22:55] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh man.
#1193 [22:56] <CrusaderDeleters> hey grey
#1194 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> \o
#1195 [22:56] <CrusaderDeleters> Something in your code actually broke my program :O
#1196 [22:56] <CrusaderDeleters> It stopped it from continueing.
#1197 [22:56] * GreyVulpine laughs
#1197 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> I probably forgot a bracket somewhere
#1198 [22:57] <Eddie> Where's your logic now, EH?
#1199 [22:57] <Eddie> EEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
#1200 [22:57] <Eddie> </Canada>
#1201 [22:57] <Eddie> VoxelHead is a Nazi
#1202 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> Bad canadian.
#1203 [22:58] <CrusaderDeleters> nope.
#1204 [22:58] <CrusaderDeleters> It would have given in error in-editor
#1205 [22:58] <Eddie> the wonders of statically-typed languages?
#1206 [22:58] <CrusaderDeleters> Java
#1207 [22:58] <Eddie> ye
#1208 [22:58] <CrusaderDeleters> I am working on a school project due monday
#1209 [22:59] <Eddie> What is it about?
#1210 [22:59] <CrusaderDeleters> and I am havign such a horrid time with this one single error
#1211 [22:59] <CrusaderDeleters> battleship
#1212 [22:59] <CrusaderDeleters> right now, I am trying to get ANYONE to help me.
#1213 [22:59] <Eddie> I can try to help, depending on my mood.
#1214 [22:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Are you happy? :D
#1215 [23:00] <Eddie> Not really, I'm grieving.
#1216 [23:00] <CrusaderDeleters> :(
#1217 [23:00] <CrusaderDeleters> why?
#1218 [23:01] <Eddie> Well my fiancé's mother passed away Wednesday.
#1219 [23:01] <oldtopman> CrusaderDeleters: Are you on freenode?
#1220 [23:01] <CrusaderDeleters> whats that?
#1221 [23:01] <oldtopman> irc.freenode.net
#1222 [23:01] <oldtopman> It's another chat network.
#1223 [23:01] <CrusaderDeleters> now I am
#1224 [23:01] <oldtopman> Add that as a server in your chatZilla and get over into #java
#1225 [23:01] <oldtopman> (You'll have to register)
#1226 [23:01] <oldtopman> And why the heck are you still on FF 3.5?
#1227 [23:02] <oldtopman> 3.6*
#1228 [23:02] <CrusaderDeleters> I like the looks.
#1229 [23:02] <CrusaderDeleters> :P
#1230 [23:02] * oldtopman facepalms
#1230 [23:02] <oldtopman> You're on windows or smth, right?
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#1232 [23:02] <oldtopman> CrusaderDeleters: /msg NickServ REGISTER HELP
#1233 [23:02] <CrusaderDeleters> windows 7 home premium 64
#1234 [23:02] <oldtopman> And then join #java
#1235 [23:02] <CrusaderDeleters> I registered before.
#1236 [23:03] <oldtopman> Then login and you should be able to join the java chan
#1237 [23:03] <CrusaderDeleters> #java is invite only
#1238 [23:03] <oldtopman> ##jaav then
#1239 [23:03] <oldtopman> ##java*
#1240 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> That funky formatting in NeedEnemyAbort() is throwing me off
#1241 [23:04] <CrusaderDeleters> I guess logging on in one irc server doesn't log onto a different.
#1242 [23:04] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
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#1244 [23:12] <cccangel> Gah... i am reactivating old accounts just to see what other emails I might of used last year that i stopped using...
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#1246 [23:15] <cccangel> it would be awesome if i could see old emails i used with my android device
#1247 [23:16] <cccangel> i know it was a google account... argh
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#1249 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Oh my, it's xales.
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#1258 [23:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Imma log now.
#1259 [23:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Bye all.
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