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#10 [00:52] <dunnydann> ok, googled for answer but can't find. When i am moving I cannot right or left click untill i 1 second after i have stopped or jumped
#11 [00:52] <dunnydann> windows 7
#12 [00:52] <oldtopman> dunnydann: Do you have COmcast Guard installed?
#13 [00:52] <dunnydann> no
#14 [00:53] <oldtopman> hrm
#15 [00:53] <dunnydann> oldtopman: tell me about it
#16 [00:53] <oldtopman> I have to go, but stick around, someone might be able to help.
#17 [00:53] <oldtopman> ??< index
#18 [00:53] <dunnydann> oldtopman: will do, thanks
#19 [00:54] <oldtopman> It's late though, if nobody's here now, come about 13-15hours from now
#20 [00:55] <oldtopman> (That's when this place is busiest)
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#26 [01:48] <cccangel> i wish someone with ability to help account recovery can come on and read the forums...
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#28 [01:49] <cccangel> hi xales
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#30 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Only way to contact Mojang concerning account issues, is through the email form at: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#31 [02:03] <cccangel> yeah i already emailed them and right now it looks like itll take about 2 months to get my account back... and if i need to email them again, it could take longer.. ergh
#32 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> Yikes
#33 [02:05] <cccangel> of course when i emailed them i was unsure of which email i used originally and since they are behind on their emails i dont want to send a duplicate yet
#34 [02:05] <cccangel> now im sure what email i used but their system isnt sending an email. so idk
#35 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> They've got a dedicated support team now, so turnaround, I've heard, is a couple days
#36 [02:08] <cccangel> what the heck
#37 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Of course, they only work on the weekdays, so..
#38 [02:09] <cccangel> the email ... i thought i used, it already acts like its migrated
#39 [02:09] <cccangel> out of curiousity i checked
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#41 [02:11] <cccangel> oh nvm
#42 [02:12] <cccangel> it does that for anything.
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#46 [02:28] <dempt> is it considered bad manners to try brute forcing minecraft accounts?
#47 [02:29] <Wug> very much so
#48 [02:29] <dempt> hmm... who knew?
#49 [02:31] <cccangel> i really want to get on minecraft... ahh!
#50 [02:31] <cccangel> its my only remedy for sleeping
#51 [02:37] <Wug> oldtopmanserver: I'm not sure if you're there
#52 [02:37] <Wug> dannydunn's problem was probably an option that disables the touchpad while typing
#53 [02:37] <Wug> fairly typical on windows 7 laptops
#54 [02:38] <cccangel> lower sensitivity on synaptics palm check fixes it
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#58 [03:10] <magictj> Can anyone help my apparently i need my nivida video drivers updating?
#59 [03:12] <lemon-rev> well goto nvidia.com < goto support or drivers and download
#60 [03:15] <Wug> magictj: still need help
#61 [03:15] <Wug> :dx > magictj
#62 [03:15] <WugBot> magictj: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#63 [03:15] <WugBot> magictj: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#64 [03:15] * |Kiikun| replaces lemon-rev's seat with a cactus.
#64 [03:15] <magictj> okauy
#65 [03:17] <magictj> this isnt that paster this is what the error came up as and told me where to go http://paste.thezomg.com/1974/25734041/
#66 [03:18] <magictj> Wug?
#67 [03:19] <Wug> yeah, I know. follow the instructions to create a dxdiag report
#68 [03:19] <Wug> or are you not using windows?
#69 [03:19] <Wug> that would be an important detail
#70 [03:19] <magictj> http://paste.thezomg.com/1974/25734041/ i get that error for where it sends me when i look at my log and also though I can use the TMI mod and its fine but when i put modloader in (first) it crashes
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#73 [03:22] <magictj> Wug are you going to hack me?
#74 [03:22] <Wug> no im not going to hack you
#75 [03:23] <Wug> but I know exactly whats wrong and youre not telling me what I need to know to help you fix it
#76 [03:23] <Wug> please follow the instructions to generate a dxdiag report
#77 [03:23] <magictj> ive pm u
#78 [03:23] <Wug> so you have
#79 [03:23] <Wug> please use the channel for this stuff
#80 [03:23] <Wug> I dont notice pms
#81 [03:23] <magictj> sorry but i dont want everyone to now my info
#82 [03:24] <Wug> its just your computer specs, there is no personal info
#83 [03:24] <magictj> oh well can it saty in the pm?
#84 [03:25] <Wug> yeah its fine
#85 [03:25] <Wug> hold on a sec and ill find you a link to an up to date driver
#86 [03:25] <magictj> is it free?
#87 [03:25] <Wug> ye
#88 [03:25] <magictj> and is it what causing the problem?
#89 [03:25] <magictj> because I can play minecraft just not with modloader
#90 [03:25] <Wug> the version you have installed was installed in 2006
#91 [03:26] <Wug> I suspect that you may not have updated it since you got the computer
#92 [03:26] <magictj> :) yh
#93 [03:26] <Wug> are you on a desktop or a laptop
#94 [03:26] <magictj> But just explain why I can use TMI with magiclauncher but as soon as I put on modloader it doesnt work I dont see how that works?
#95 [03:27] <magictj> Im on a computer no laptop
#96 [03:27] <Wug> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp-296.10-whql-driver.html
#97 [03:27] <Wug> installing that should fix it
#98 [03:27] <magictj> just explain first why TMI works with magiclauncher but not modloader
#99 [03:28] <Wug> modloader does something different than the way regular minecraft does
#100 [03:28] <magictj> This download is free? And will it install itself?
#101 [03:28] <magictj> okay
#102 [03:28] <Wug> the way regular minecraft does it works
#103 [03:28] <Wug> you have to run it after you download it, and its free
#104 [03:28] <magictj> k just click download?
#105 [03:28] <Wug> yep
#106 [03:29] <magictj> its free?
#107 [03:29] <Wug> modloader does something different, and it looks like there is a bug in the driver you have currently which is causing it to crash
#108 [03:29] <Wug> yes its free
#109 [03:29] <magictj> okay do you like guns n roses?
#110 [03:29] <Wug> meh
#111 [03:29] <Wug> I know very little of their music
#112 [03:30] <Wug> not really my genre
#113 [03:31] <magictj> you no anything of magiclauncher because im on default setting but it says bad login when i try to get on servers?
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#115 [03:31] <Wug> whats your minecraft account name
#116 [03:32] <magictj> magictj
#117 [03:32] <Wug> ;hp magictj
#118 [03:32] <WugBot> magictj has paid for minecraft.
#119 [03:32] <Wug> try logging in again
#120 [03:32] <Wug> maybe wait a few minutes and then login again
#121 [03:33] <Wug> the same thing can happen if you login twice with the regular client
#122 [03:33] <magictj> ah yh i had 2 amgiclaunchers open one with mods selected thats why
#123 [03:34] <magictj> do i click recommend settings?
#124 [03:34] <Wug> yeah
#125 [03:34] <magictj> Do you no anything about WAMP?
#126 [03:34] <Wug> nope
#127 [03:34] <magictj> or MySQL database?
#128 [03:34] <Wug> wait
#129 [03:35] <Wug> I know what it means, I generally use linux
#130 [03:35] <magictj> because ive got a server and I need to get logblock but i have no idea how
#131 [03:35] <Wug> as opposed to windows
#132 [03:35] <magictj> logblock needs a MySQL database/server but how i get one and set it up i dont no
#133 [03:35] <Wug> well, I suggest searching youtube for a tutorial
#134 [03:35] <Wug> or maybe asking in #bukkit
#135 [03:35] <Wug> though this seems a little out of the scope of what theyd be willing to help with
#136 [03:36] <Wug> logblock is not a beginner plugin
#137 [03:36] <Wug> some level of knowledge is expected for those who attempt to use it
#138 [03:36] <magictj> Do you code?
#139 [03:37] <Wug> I do
#140 [03:37] <magictj> Would you be willing to teach pleaseeeeee
#141 [03:37] <magictj> Ive had one little play around with greenfoot
#142 [03:37] <Wug> cant do that, sorry
#143 [03:37] <Wug> it takes too long and I unfortunately dont have the time
#144 [03:37] <magictj> installer failed
#145 [03:37] <Wug> hmm did it
#146 [03:38] <Wug> did it say why
#147 [03:38] <magictj> update componets failed (probaly cause this is the most recent) and Nview is not installed
#148 [03:39] <Wug> do a clean install
#149 [03:39] <magictj> how>
#150 [03:39] <magictj> ?
#151 [03:39] <Wug> there should be a checkbox for that in the installer
#152 [03:39] <Wug> run it again and search for that box and check it
#153 [03:39] <magictj> okay
#154 [03:39] <Wug> you will probably have to restart a few times over the course of installing
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#156 [03:42] <magictj> okay haveing to restart :(
#157 [03:43] <Wug> if you need a link to get back here
#158 [03:43] <Wug> you're using the webchat, so just bookmark the page
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#160 [03:54] <magictj> hey i restarted it and nivida is now showing as a icon so i think its worked?
#161 [03:54] <Wug> is the installation finished or is it still in progreess
#162 [03:54] <Wug> it might not be done
#163 [03:55] <Wug> give it a while
#164 [03:55] <magictj> well the error satyed up check it out http://paste.thezomg.com/1976/33257569/
#165 [03:56] <Wug> thats a different error
#166 [03:56] <Wug> are you 100% sure the installer is done running
#167 [03:56] <magictj> nope
#168 [03:56] <magictj> actually yh it has
#169 [03:57] <Wug> has it asked you to restart again
#170 [03:57] <magictj> no it said that i need to restart it so i did
#171 [03:57] <magictj> now theres an icon
#172 [03:57] <Wug> where is the icon
#173 [03:57] <magictj> i hover over it and it says Nivida settings
#174 [03:57] <magictj> next to the time bottom right hand
#175 [03:58] <Wug> oh, a tray icon
#176 [03:58] <Wug> yeah, its probably done then
#177 [03:58] <Wug> what version of modloader are you trying to install
#178 [03:58] <magictj> 1.2.4
#179 [03:59] <Wug> all of the mods you are using are 1.2.4?
#180 [03:59] <magictj> yh
#181 [03:59] <Wug> I very much doubt it, since it was only released today
#182 [03:59] <magictj> no ive got TMI
#183 [03:59] <magictj> http://www.minecraftdl.com/modloader-risugami-download/
#184 [03:59] <Wug> if you have any leftover mods from 1.2.3 then they will need to be updatesd
#185 [03:59] <magictj> no i removed them all
#186 [04:00] <Wug> well, force update and try reinstalling everything
#187 [04:00] <Wug> since its no longer crashing with video driver issues
#188 [04:00] <Wug> if its still not working after that, ask in #risucraft again
#189 [04:03] <magictj> k
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#191 [04:19] * |Kiikun| looks at site... looks at risugami's thread...
#191 [04:20] <|Kiikun|> atleast they arnt hijackign the adfly links...
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#193 [04:21] <Wug> :o oh hey, look look, whats this I see
#194 [04:21] * Wug types m and hits tab
#194 [04:21] <Wug> mollstam: <3
#195 [04:21] <Wug> long time no see
#196 [04:23] <|Kiikun|> lol.. he;s been lurking
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#199 [04:47] <Sorick> Hey guys, anyone can awnser a quick server question?
#200 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> Only if you ask it
#201 [04:47] <Sorick> :D
#202 [04:49] <Sorick> alright so I havent played since 1.1 but it seems that with 1.3 I have a memory leak issue on my client as soon as I connect to a server I am currently running on my computer, I have no problem when it's another server or in solo but when It's mine, it gets up by about 10-20mb/sec in memory use and only stops when it crashes
#203 [04:50] <Sorick> do you have any fix or at least an idea of what causes this?
#204 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> 1.2.4, you mean?
#205 [04:50] <Sorick> yeah
#206 [04:50] <Sorick> sry
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#208 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> I've actually seen memory usage go down since the latest patch. What version of java do you have installed?
#209 [04:51] <Sorick> i've tried with 6.32 and 7 on both 32 and 64 bits
#210 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> Any mods installed?
#211 [04:51] <Sorick> I also tried to find anything about it but I seem to be the only one with that problem
#212 [04:51] <Sorick> nope
#213 [04:52] <Sorick> complete vanilla both server and client
#214 [04:52] <Sorick> also tried to do a clean reinstall everything
#215 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#216 [04:53] <Sorick> and I also tried with the exact same files as one of my friends
#217 [04:53] <Sorick> but he has no server so
#218 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM do you have?
#219 [04:53] <Sorick> 8gb
#220 [04:53] <Sorick> so that isnt a problem
#221 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> Also, are you running the server and client on the same machine?
#222 [04:53] <Sorick> yeah
#223 [04:53] <Sorick> and it's only in that case that I get the memory leak on the client
#224 [04:54] <Wug> you'd definitely want to stick to 64 bit java
#225 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> With 32bit java on windows, maximum allocatable heap size is about 1.5 gigs
#226 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> What Wug said ^
#227 [04:54] <Wug> you might want to try uninstalling every version except the most recent 64 bti one
#228 [04:54] <Sorick> that's what I have right now
#229 [04:54] <Sorick> and it's the only one
#230 [04:55] <Wug> are you trying to play from your browser
#231 [04:55] <Sorick> no
#232 [04:55] <Sorick> from the standard version
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#235 [04:55] <Sorick> what bugs me is that it only happens when I play on the server I made
#236 [04:55] <Wug> pull up a command prompt and use "java -version"
#237 [04:56] <Sorick> 1.6.0_31
#238 [04:56] <Sorick> so 6.31
#239 [04:56] <Sorick> 64 bit
#240 [04:56] <Wug> does it explicitly say 64 bit
#241 [04:56] <Wug> ok
#242 [04:56] <Sorick> and also
#243 [04:57] <Sorick> I can have the server running, with 4 people connected to it and play on another server without any problem
#244 [04:57] <Sorick> but as soon as I connect to the one running on my computer
#245 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> Could be just related to the server. Corrupt chunk somewhere? Maybe a mob spawner that got out of hand?
#246 [04:57] <Sorick> it crashes after 30secs or so
#247 [04:57] <Wug> the server crashes or the client does
#248 [04:57] <Sorick> my friends can play on it without a problem
#249 [04:57] <Sorick> client does
#250 [04:58] <Wug> :ts/launcher
#251 [04:58] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#252 [04:58] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#253 [04:58] <Wug> try using that
#254 [04:58] <Wug> when it crashes it will save an error log
#255 [04:58] <Wug> or do you already have one
#256 [04:58] <Sorick> Client connected to server on same computer = client crash basically
#257 [04:58] <Wug> if you do can you pastebin it
#258 [04:59] <Sorick> it crash as in closing or something like that
#259 [04:59] <Sorick> but I cant move at all and have about like 1 frames per 10 seconds
#260 [04:59] <Sorick> and it's not a performance issue since my comp is pretty much a beast
#261 [05:00] <Sorick> will the troubleshooter make a log even in this condition?
#262 [05:00] <Wug> it should
#263 [05:00] <Wug> if there is an error it shold save it
#264 [05:00] <Sorick> allright give me 1 moment
#265 [05:01] <cccangel> from my understanding that client is like running a java program in verbose.. it outputs warnings even...
#266 [05:02] <Sorick> when it's frozen do I simply close MC?
#267 [05:02] <Wug> wait until it crashes if you can
#268 [05:03] <Sorick> i'm afraid it wont happen
#269 [05:03] <Sorick> last time it was stuck for about 30 minutes
#270 [05:03] <Sorick> and I just closed it
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#272 [05:04] <Sorick> cause it wouldnt give me any error
#273 [05:04] <newmbie> sup guys.
#274 [05:04] <Wug> the log is saved in %appdata%\.minecraft\minecraft.log
#275 [05:04] <newmbie> I get the usual connection refused: connect error on my server BUT, BUT the required ports are open. 25565. I've checked them, both TCP n UDP. So what gives?
#276 [05:05] <Wug> ;check newmbie
#277 [05:05] <WugBot> 175.136.186.41:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: A Minecraft Server (0/20)
#278 [05:05] <Wug> seems ok to me
#279 [05:05] <Sorick> it's empty
#280 [05:05] <Sorick> only Minecraft Launcher Started. Successfully redirected output to log file.
#281 [05:05] <newmbie> wow
#282 [05:05] <newmbie> haha, that's cool. MAybe only some can't. Thanks anyway
#283 [05:05] <newmbie> cya
#284 [05:05] <Wug> Sorick: nothing at all after that
#285 [05:05] <newmbie> !
#286 [05:05] <Sorick> no
#287 [05:06] <Wug> what address are you connecting to
#288 [05:06] <Sorick> 74.59.86.4
#289 [05:07] <Wug> Sorick: try connecting to 127.0.0.1
#290 [05:08] <Sorick> failed to connect to server
#291 [05:08] <Sorick> connection refused : connect
#292 [05:08] <Wug> Sorick: youre sure youre connecting to your server
#293 [05:09] <Sorick> yes cause I can see myself connecting in the server log
#294 [05:09] <Wug> but you get connection refused anyway?
#295 [05:09] <Sorick> not when using the external ip(redirected via router) or the local ip
#296 [05:10] <Wug> 127.0.0.1 is the local ip
#297 [05:10] <Sorick> I mean the 192.168.
#298 [05:10] <Wug> well, its the loopback ip
#299 [05:10] <Wug> did you put anything on the server-ip line
#300 [05:10] <Sorick> in server-properties?
#301 [05:11] <Wug> yes
#302 [05:11] <Sorick> yeah
#303 [05:11] <Sorick> i've put the 192.168 one
#304 [05:11] <Wug> in general its better to leave it blank
#305 [05:12] <Wug> thats not the cause of your issue, probably
#306 [05:12] <Wug> I dont think anyway
#307 [05:12] <Wug> clear the line and restart the server, then try connecting to 127.0.0.1
#308 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Memory leak issue seems more java than anything
#309 [05:13] <Sorick> Wug : yeah that's what I figured so I was trying it anyway as I am desperate, I could connect but same result
#310 [05:14] <Sorick> 10 mb increase per second
#311 [05:14] <Sorick> pretty stable
#312 [05:14] <Wug> its fairly normal for it to go up by a lot
#313 [05:14] <Wug> it should periodically drop as well
#314 [05:14] <Wug> you might just need to run it with more ram
#315 [05:14] <Sorick> as for java i'm not sure since I have no problem with the server so
#316 [05:15] <Sorick> tried to run it with more ram to
#317 [05:15] <Wug> if you're giving the server a lot of ram it might be hogging it away from the client
#318 [05:15] <Sorick> it always go to the cap
#319 [05:15] <GreyVulpine> Did you somehow turn off garbage collection with the client?
#320 [05:15] <GreyVulpine> Maybe through a cmd line argument somehow?
#321 [05:15] <Sorick> no
#322 [05:16] <Sorick> do you know the command to turn it on
#323 [05:16] <Sorick> maybe I could try that
#324 [05:16] <Wug> it should be on automatically
#325 [05:16] <Sorick> i know but still
#326 [05:16] <Wug> if you press f3 and look at the bar on the left
#327 [05:16] <Sorick> it's getting pretty desperate
#328 [05:16] <Wug> are the majority of the lines red or white
#329 [05:17] <Wug> they will probably be a little of both, but which part is longer
#330 [05:17] <Sorick> red
#331 [05:17] <Sorick> by a lot
#332 [05:17] <Wug> is your computer overheating
#333 [05:17] <Sorick> no
#334 [05:17] <Sorick> it's steady at 34-36
#335 [05:17] <Wug> how sure are you
#336 [05:17] <Sorick> really sure
#337 [05:17] <Wug> graphics card too?
#338 [05:17] <Sorick> yeah
#339 [05:18] <Sorick> graphics is at 39 now
#340 [05:19] <Wug> can you take a screencap of the f3 window
#341 [05:22] <Sorick> where do you want me to post it?
#342 [05:22] <Wug> imgur or something
#343 [05:23] <Sorick> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/mcleak.png/
#344 [05:23] <Sorick> there you go
#345 [05:24] <Sorick> took it the exact moment it froze
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#347 [05:24] <Wug> those are 32 bit javas
#348 [05:24] <Wug> well, the one is
#349 [05:24] <Wug> im guessing thats the client
#350 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's definitely running 32 bit java
#351 [05:25] <Wug> looks like you might have a remnant of an old version or something
#352 [05:25] <Sorick> ........
#353 [05:25] <Wug> teamviewer I guess
#354 [05:25] <Wug> :tv6
#355 [05:25] <WugBot> tv6: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/download/version_6x/TeamViewer_Setup.exe
#356 [05:25] <WugBot> tv6: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
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#358 [05:27] <Sorick> how do you know it's the 32?
#359 [05:27] <Wug> it has *32 in the task manager entry
#360 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> java * 32
#361 [05:27] <Sorick> haw
#362 [05:27] <Sorick> nvm
#363 [05:27] <Sorick> dumb me
#364 [05:27] <Sorick> ^^
#365 [05:29] <Wug> GreyVulpine: ever done this before
#366 [05:29] <GreyVulpine> Not really
#367 [05:29] <Wug> want me to teach you
#368 [05:29] <Wug> the art of the javaectomy
#369 [05:29] <GreyVulpine> Eh, I'm good.
#370 [05:30] <GreyVulpine> It's 5:30am, my brain's shut off hours ago
#371 [05:30] <GreyVulpine> Maybe next time
#372 [05:31] <Sorick> alright all good
#373 [05:31] <Sorick> it seems like it works now
#374 [05:31] <Wug> you have it working?
#375 [05:32] <Sorick> seems so
#376 [05:32] <Wug> well, test extensively
#377 [05:32] <Sorick> I will
#378 [05:32] <Sorick> as long as i'm not bad lucky again... sigh
#379 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> Gotta love java
#380 [05:33] <Sorick> not only java
#381 [05:33] * Wug twitch
#381 [05:33] <Sorick> last time my world got completly corrupted for no reason
#382 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that happens quite frequently around here
#383 [05:33] <Wug> its often an out of memory related thing
#384 [05:33] <Sorick> some chunks would spawn all air block with spiders/creepers
#385 [05:34] <Wug> having 64 bit java may innoculate you against it
#386 [05:34] <Sorick> making it >9000
#387 [05:34] <Wug> also, I can fix those
#388 [05:34] <Sorick> well it's too late
#389 [05:34] <Wug> if you still have the world I can probably fix it
#390 [05:34] <Sorick> it was like 6 months ago
#391 [05:34] <Sorick> deleted it a long time ago ^^
#392 [05:34] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#393 [05:34] <Sorick> anyway thx guys
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#420 [09:04] <frogmella> hello
#421 [09:06] <|Kiikun|> hi o.o/
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#425 [09:13] <Gurkenglas> How do I turn off drop rendering?
#426 [09:13] <Gurkenglas> Theres thousands of drops here, and I need to get out of the under-1-fps-zone for a few secs to pick them up
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#430 [09:25] <|Kiikun|> Gurkenglas: you cant. you CAN delete them using mcedit though
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#432 [09:27] <Gurkenglas> I once saw someone do it in a video
#433 [09:27] <Gurkenglas> he typed -norender or something like that and it stopped
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#443 [10:58] <TakoMan02> .
#444 [10:58] <TakoMan02> Anyone know how to fix the "Not downloaded" issue when you first run MC?
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#447 [11:04] <TakoMan02> .
#448 [11:04] <TakoMan02> Hello?
#449 [11:06] <peru> 179 people away from keyboard :>
#450 [11:07] <TakoMan02> :P.
#451 [11:07] <JohnEBH> lol
#452 [11:07] <JohnEBH> ??> TakoMan02 win/reinst/bat
#453 [11:07] <VoxelHead> TakoMan02: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#454 [11:07] <VoxelHead> TakoMan02: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#455 [11:07] <JohnEBH> TakoMan02, Try that ^ =P
#456 [11:10] <TakoMan02> Oh, wow.
#457 [11:10] <TakoMan02> I was using the wrong password.
#458 [11:10] <JohnEBH> lol Derp
#459 [11:11] <TakoMan02> It didn't say "Incorrect password", though. That's what threw me off.
#460 [11:11] <TakoMan02> It just said "not downloaded"
#461 [11:11] <Calinou> Gurkenglas: command line setting, uh?
#462 [11:11] <JohnEBH> Bug tracker: http://goo.gl/GZWrJ
#463 [11:11] <JohnEBH> ? o.o
#464 [11:11] <TakoMan02> anyway, thanks for the help. adios.
#465 [11:11] <Calinou> Gurkenglas: also, you'll have to collect all those drops, or wait them to decay
#466 [11:11] <Calinou> Gurkenglas: also, you'll have to collect all those drops, or wait them to decay
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#471 [11:40] <Gurkenglas> Calinou, no
#472 [11:40] <Gurkenglas> it was on smp
#473 [11:41] <Gurkenglas> there were loads of drops
#474 [11:41] <Gurkenglas> he chatted -norender, and instead of postin it in chat, it lead to the drops becoming invisible and the lag being gone
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#478 [12:01] <lietuvisENG> hello here there are chatting minecraft creators?
#479 [12:02] <lietuvisENG> Iguana atsimeni toki CaptainSparklez
#480 [12:03] <LilLucy> o.o
#481 [12:03] <lietuvisENG> hey there ENG or LT?
#482 [12:03] <LilLucy> English
#483 [12:03] <lietuvisENG> oh
#484 [12:04] <lietuvisENG> im so bad i loging in the minecraft account but it say's bad login or password but the password really works
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#489 [12:35] <edw99> can someone help my friend make a server
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#491 [12:40] <Nathan2055> Hey, GreyVulpine?
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#493 [12:42] <edw99> hello?
#494 [12:42] <Nathan2055> Howdy!
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#496 [12:43] <edw99> when my friend xstammy gets on can u help him make a server
#497 [12:43] <xStammy> Can somebody help me make a server?
#498 [12:43] <Nathan2055> I can try to help.
#499 [12:44] <xStammy> Thanks
#500 [12:44] <Nathan2055> But I don't know much.
#501 [12:44] <Nathan2055> What's your question?
#502 [12:44] <Nathan2055> First, vanilla or Bukkit?
#503 [12:44] <xStammy> I want to make a vanilla minecraft server
#504 [12:44] <xStammy> From Hamachi
#505 [12:44] <Nathan2055> Okay.
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#507 [12:45] <Nathan2055> Hamachi? Bad.
#508 [12:45] <xStammy> Why?
#509 [12:45] <Nathan2055> Every server that uses that tends to have problems.
#510 [12:45] <Nathan2055> I don't completely know why.
#511 [12:45] <xStammy> My friend help me make in 1.1 and it was fine
#512 [12:46] <xStammy> I just could update it so I need to make a new one
#513 [12:46] <Nathan2055> You are better off port-forwarding.
#514 [12:46] <xStammy> Ok how do I do that?
#515 [12:46] <Nathan2055> Here, just a sec while a grab the info.
#516 [12:46] <xStammy> Ok.
#517 [12:48] <Nathan2055> Okay, read http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server
#518 [12:49] <Nathan2055> Just an FYI, Bukkit is typically better if you are running a large or public server, and they have their own support team that knows a lot more than I do :P
#519 [12:49] <xStammy> I just want it to be with like 8 friends
#520 [12:50] <Nathan2055> Okay, do you run any mods?
#521 [12:50] <xStammy> No.
#522 [12:50] <Nathan2055> Okay, vanilla is better for you.
#523 [12:51] <xStammy> Ok.
#524 [12:51] <Nathan2055> Why do you want to re-setup a server instead of updating?
#525 [12:51] <xStammy> Well I lost my server
#526 [12:52] <xStammy> I wiped it out
#527 [12:52] <Nathan2055> Huh?
#528 [12:52] <Nathan2055> Oh!
#529 [12:52] <Nathan2055> Okay.
#530 [12:52] <Nathan2055> Well, read the page I linked above.
#531 [12:52] <xStammy> I reset my entire computer so I could get all my space back
#532 [12:53] <Nathan2055> Oh, okay.
#533 [12:57] <xStammy> Ok so I downloaded the thing on the page and out it all into a file now what?
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#535 [12:58] <Red_Mist> might be an easy question for you minecraft xperts...
#536 [12:58] <xStammy> Like how do I portforward
#537 [12:59] <Nathan2055> See the Firewalling, NATs and external IP addresses section
#538 [12:59] <Red_Mist> I have some old saved map data files... I think might have somehow became corrupt.. the files says click to convert map.. I get the converting bar for about a half second, then a brick screen then goes black indefinately.
#539 [12:59] <Red_Mist> is this a "tell" for map corruption?
#540 [13:00] <Red_Mist> new game files convert just fine.. and the game works flawlessly.
#541 [13:01] <Nathan2055> Red_Mist: Are you converting them using the converter built into the Minecraft singleplayer "area"?
#542 [13:01] <Red_Mist> yes.
#543 [13:02] <Nathan2055> Okay, do you have a backup of 1.1?
#544 [13:02] <Red_Mist> ahh.. good question..
#545 [13:02] <Red_Mist> I dont think so, let me check.
#546 [13:02] <Red_Mist> brb
#547 [13:02] <xStammy> Nathan I cant portforward I dont know the password for my router
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#549 [13:03] <xStammy> So I need to do Hamachi
#550 [13:03] <Red_Mist> I have a restore point to 3.2.2012, not sure what version it is.. probably 3.2
#551 [13:03] <|Kiikun|> xStammy: did someone reset it?
#552 [13:03] <Nathan2055> Okay. I don't know how to do that. You might want to come back when someone that knows more can tell you what to do.
#553 [13:03] <|Kiikun|> xStammy: i mean did someone else set a password to it, or you just dont know the default?
#554 [13:04] <xStammy> I dont know
#555 [13:04] <Nathan2055> Kiikun: Perfect timing. Can you help xStammy?
#556 [13:04] <xStammy> Like I asked know one knows so I need Hamachi
#557 [13:04] <Nathan2055> Red_Mist: Do you mean System Restore?
#558 [13:04] <Red_Mist> yeah, for minecraft.jar... I dont have 1.1 physically backed up.
#559 [13:05] <Red_Mist> not system restore.. just file.
#560 [13:05] <|Kiikun|> xStammy: what brand and model router do you have?
#561 [13:05] <xStammy> I dont know let me check
#562 [13:05] <xStammy> Like you mean the company/
#563 [13:05] <xStammy> ?
#564 [13:05] <Nathan2055> Red_Mist: Well, I don't know if that will work. Try converting your maps again.
#565 [13:06] <zkxs> company and model
#566 [13:06] <Red_Mist> (like if I go to minecraft.jar right click, it gives me an option to restore a previous version, but its not a backup.
#567 [13:06] <|Kiikun|> ex: Linksys e1000
#568 [13:06] <Nathan2055> Red_Mist: What OS are you on?
#569 [13:06] <Red_Mist> 7
#570 [13:06] <Nathan2055> Okay, I'm running XP so I don't know.
#571 [13:06] <Nathan2055> Convert your maps again.
#572 [13:06] <Nathan2055> Tell me what happens.
#573 [13:06] <Red_Mist> ahh... well, I will try the file restore, and re-try to convert.. brb.
#574 [13:07] <Nathan2055> No, don't restore.
#575 [13:07] <Red_Mist> oh..
#576 [13:07] <Red_Mist> just try to convert.
#577 [13:07] <Red_Mist> k.
#578 [13:07] <xStammy> Wait whos helping me here?
#579 [13:07] <|Kiikun|> me
#580 [13:07] <xStammy> Ok so what do I do?
#581 [13:07] <zkxs> Isn't there a bug where the map converter crashes if there are blocks at max height?
#582 [13:07] <|Kiikun|> tell me what router you have....?
#583 [13:08] <xStammy> Well how do I find that out?
#584 [13:08] <|Kiikun|> zkxs: yes... but i think it was fixed for 1.2.4
#585 [13:08] <|Kiikun|> xStammy: look at the router. look for brand name and a model number
#586 [13:08] <xStammy> Ok one second
#587 [13:08] <Red_Mist> okay, so I tried a completely different map that needs converting.. shows progress bar, goes to brick texture screen, then indefinately black.
#588 [13:08] <Nathan2055> Wait, zkxs, that's it!
#589 [13:09] <Nathan2055> Red_Mist: Go to the title screen.
#590 [13:09] <Red_Mist> done
#591 [13:09] <Nathan2055> In the bottom left corner, what does it say?
#592 [13:09] <Red_Mist> minecraft
#593 [13:09] <Nathan2055> Then what?
#594 [13:10] <Red_Mist> your talking about the launcher right?
#595 [13:10] <Red_Mist> 1.2.4
#596 [13:10] <Nathan2055> No, the title screen.
#597 [13:10] <Red_Mist> lol.
#598 [13:10] <Red_Mist> got that.
#599 [13:10] <Nathan2055> Where it says Singleplayer, Multiplayer, etc.
#600 [13:10] <Nathan2055> I can't type very fast....
#601 [13:10] <Nathan2055> :P
#602 [13:10] <Red_Mist> np
#603 [13:10] <Red_Mist> thanks for the help btw.
#604 [13:11] <Nathan2055> Any time!
#605 [13:11] <Red_Mist> it says Minecraft 1.2.4
#606 [13:11] <Nathan2055> Hmm...
#607 [13:11] <Red_Mist> I can roll it back to 1.2.3 and then try converting.
#608 [13:11] <Nathan2055> Go to the folder where you saved the "Minecraft.exe" file.
#609 [13:12] <Nathan2055> No, don't do that.
#610 [13:12] <Red_Mist> k..
#611 [13:12] <Nathan2055> Keep it at 1.2.4.
#612 [13:12] <Nathan2055> There are more converting bugs in 1.2.3
#613 [13:12] <Nathan2055> Go to the folder where you saved the "Minecraft.exe" file.
#614 [13:12] <Red_Mist> is it in the %appdata% location?
#615 [13:13] <Nathan2055> No, where you initially saved the launcher.
#616 [13:13] <Red_Mist> thats right on my desktop.
#617 [13:13] <Nathan2055> Is there any text files on your desktop.
#618 [13:13] <xStammy> Ok I got the model and the P/N is that what I need?
#619 [13:13] <Red_Mist> well, to be sure, I'm searching for the file... it may just be a shortcut.
#620 [13:14] <|Kiikun|> brand and model.
#621 [13:14] <xStammy> Well what do you mean brand like the company that made it
#622 [13:14] <Nathan2055> Red_Mist: Should be a .log file in the same folder where the Minecraft.exe is saved.
#623 [13:14] <|Kiikun|> yes
#624 [13:14] <xStammy> Ok rodgers and I got the model
#625 [13:14] <Red_Mist> k.. checking.
#626 [13:14] <|Kiikun|> xStammy: ok. want to tell me the model?
#627 [13:14] <Nathan2055> Wait a sec...
#628 [13:14] <xStammy> Sure
#629 [13:15] <Nathan2055> Kiikun: Quick question.
#630 [13:15] <xStammy> SMCD3GN-RRR
#631 [13:15] <Nathan2055> Where a Minecraft error reports saved?
#632 [13:15] <|Kiikun|> Nathan2055: if its a java crash it goes into hs-err-pid usualy.
#633 [13:15] <xStammy> I told you the pin
#634 [13:16] <Nathan2055> Well, what about Minecraft errors, you know,
#635 [13:16] <xStammy> I mean model
#636 [13:16] <Nathan2055> "Minecraft has crashed. if you want to report this error...."
#637 [13:17] <Nathan2055> Red_Mist: Look for a file like hs_err_pid<random numbers>.log
#638 [13:17] <Red_Mist> not finding either file D:
#639 [13:17] <Red_Mist> k
#640 [13:17] <|Kiikun|> xStammy: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/SMC/SMCD3GN/Minecraft_Server.htm
#641 [13:18] <Red_Mist> did find a minecraft.exe in windows\prefetch
#642 [13:18] <Red_Mist> with some other stuff after it.
#643 [13:18] <Red_Mist> k found the log file
#644 [13:18] <Nathan2055> What I'm trying to find is a Minecraft error report.
#645 [13:19] <Nathan2055> Let's try something different,
#646 [13:19] <Red_Mist> but I found it.
#647 [13:19] <|Kiikun|> xStammy: your ISP provided this, correct? the user and pass are either the same as you need to log in to your main account email or are in the documentation somewhere
#648 [13:19] <Nathan2055> Wait,
#649 [13:19] <Nathan2055> Don't paste it here,
#650 [13:19] <Nathan2055> use Pastebin
#651 [13:19] <Nathan2055> :pastebin
#652 [13:19] <WugBot> pastebin: Please use pastebin to share error logs or long messages, do not flood the channel. http://pastebin.com Paste your text into the box, click 'Submit' and give us the link from the address bar.
#653 [13:20] <Red_Mist> lol
#654 [13:20] <Red_Mist> sure
#655 [13:20] <|Kiikun|> Nathan2055: the hserrpid usually appears on the desktop
#656 [13:20] <xStammy> So wait what do I do Kiikun
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#658 [13:20] <Eddie543> Hello i have a Problem with my Minecraft :o can me Anybody Help ?
#659 [13:20] <Nathan2055> Eddie543: Sure. What's up.
#660 [13:21] <|Kiikun|> xStammy: follow the instructions after logging into the router. 3.
#661 [13:21] <|Kiikun|> In the Login User Password screen, enter the default username and the default password provided by your service provider. Both the username and password are case sensitive.
#662 [13:21] <Eddie543> i buyed Today in the Morning, but evry time when i want to log in there stand: minecraft not connecting to minecraft.net
#663 [13:21] <Eddie543> BUT
#664 [13:21] <Nathan2055> Kiikun: on my PC, it either shows up in the folder where my launcher is or the root of .minecraft.
#665 [13:21] <Eddie543> When i log in at my girlfriends Laptop, it works
#666 [13:21] <Red_Mist> k.. done
#667 [13:21] <|Kiikun|> Eddie543: did you pirate the game on that computer previously?
#668 [13:21] <Nathan2055> Eddie543: You computer isn't connecting to the internet.
#669 [13:22] <Eddie543> i write from the computer...
#670 [13:22] <|Kiikun|> Eddie: or your getting java7 derpery
#671 [13:22] <Nathan2055> Red_Mist: Paste the link into the channel.
#672 [13:22] <Eddie543> i try evrything
#673 [13:22] <Eddie543> i deinstalled java 6 times
#674 [13:22] <xStammy> Kiikun do you have skype cause I dont know what to do
#675 [13:22] <Nathan2055> Eddie543: Wait a sec.
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#677 [13:22] <Eddie543> kk
#678 [13:23] <Red_Mist> k, gimme a sec to figure out the site, first time using.
#679 [13:23] * Red_Mist is a pastbin virgin
#679 [13:23] <Nathan2055> Eddie543: Go to http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp and hit the big red button.
#680 [13:23] <|Kiikun|> xStammy: the manual for the router/modem: http://www.smc.com/files/AJ/SMCD3GN-UserManual_Rogers.pdf
#681 [13:23] <Nathan2055> Eddie543: What does it say?
#682 [13:23] <Eddie543> You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 31).
#683 [13:24] <Red_Mist> http://pastebin.com/kNgnxQHL
#684 [13:24] <Red_Mist> try that once.
#685 [13:24] <|Kiikun|> xStammy: you need to find the actual paper documentation your isp provided (or call them and ask them how) to log into the router.
#686 [13:24] <Nathan2055> Eddie543: Then it's not java.
#687 [13:24] <Eddie543> ok
#688 [13:24] <Eddie543> next :D
#689 [13:24] <Eddie543> the problem is
#690 [13:24] <Eddie543> when i start it in my browser
#691 [13:24] <Nathan2055> Eddie543: Have you ever tried to pirate Minecraft from your PC?
#692 [13:24] <Eddie543> it load the game, and then there stand DONE. its freez
#693 [13:25] <Nathan2055> Hmm...
#694 [13:25] <Nathan2055> What OS are you on?
#695 [13:25] <Eddie543> Windows 7 :o
#696 [13:25] <Eddie543> and no
#697 [13:25] <Eddie543> the laptop is 3 weeks old
#698 [13:25] <|Kiikun|> Red_Mist: thats an opengl crash. try updatign your video drivers
#699 [13:25] <Eddie543> its new :D
#700 [13:25] <Nathan2055> Kiikun: I can't read error reports. What can you make of Red_Mist's Paste....Got me,
#701 [13:26] <Nathan2055> Kiikun: Your fast.
#702 [13:26] <Red_Mist> kiikun, why would it work with not updated maps? also, wouldnt running in software mode fix any opengl issue?
#703 [13:26] <Red_Mist> but I can try.
#704 [13:26] <Eddie543> Nathan
#705 [13:26] <|Kiikun|> Eddie: does the following link say anything besides "bad login'? https://login.minecraft.net/?user=notARealUser&password=notARealPass&version=15
#706 [13:26] <Nathan2055> And you can read my mind apparently :P
#707 [13:26] <Eddie> |Kiikun|: hello :s
#708 [13:26] <|Kiikun|> Nathan2055: heh
#709 [13:26] <|Kiikun|> erm. sorry Eddie was talkgin to Eddie543
#710 [13:26] <Eddie> Yes I know :p
#711 [13:26] <Eddie543> öh
#712 [13:27] <Red_Mist> brb, gonna update catalyst.. it has been popping up with wierd messages lately anyway.
#713 [13:27] <Eddie543> when i run at the website to a older version from Minecraft then comes: java illegalargumentexception
#714 [13:27] <Nathan2055> ...we've been Ed, Ed and Eddied!
#715 [13:27] <Nathan2055> :P
#716 [13:27] <|Kiikun|> dun. dundun. dundundeedee~
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#718 [13:27] <Nathan2055> Anyway, What does that link say, Eddie543?
#719 [13:28] <Eddie543> Kiikun
#720 [13:28] <Eddie543> Yes it comes bad log in
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#722 [13:28] <Eddie543> Bad login
#723 [13:28] <Nathan2055> Okay, then you can connect.
#724 [13:28] <Nathan2055> That's step 1.
#725 [13:28] <|Kiikun|> Eddie: ok then its not the site or your hosts file... is java blocked by the firewall?
#726 [13:28] <Eddie543> i dont know
#727 [13:28] <Eddie543> i try
#728 [13:28] <Red_Mist> awe man, 158 mb.. this better be worth it, lol.
#729 [13:28] <Eddie543> sec
#730 [13:29] <|Kiikun|> erms... x.x
#731 [13:30] <Eddie543> öhm
#732 [13:30] <Eddie543> Nathan
#733 [13:30] <Eddie543> u wanna join my laptop with Teamviewer to Look ?
#734 [13:30] <Nathan2055> Eddie543: Let's try something else first.
#735 [13:30] <Eddie543> okay
#736 [13:31] <Nathan2055> First, is Java blocked by your Firewall?
#737 [13:31] <Eddie543> no
#738 [13:31] <Eddie543> i
#739 [13:31] <Eddie543> closed my firewall
#740 [13:31] <Nathan2055> No, don't do that!
#741 [13:31] <Nathan2055> Then your prone to viruses!
#742 [13:31] <xStammy> So kiikun I just call them tell them my router model thingy and they will give me the password
#743 [13:31] <Eddie543> kk
#744 [13:31] <Nathan2055> Open it back up.
#745 [13:32] <Eddie543> done
#746 [13:32] <Eddie543> how i see
#747 [13:32] <Eddie543> when my firewall block minecraft
#748 [13:32] <Nathan2055> What firewall do you use?
#749 [13:32] <xStammy> Kiikun?
#750 [13:32] <Eddie543> Norton internet Security
#751 [13:32] <|Kiikun|> xStammy: its most likely in all the paperwork you got when you got the router.
#752 [13:32] <Nathan2055> What version?
#753 [13:33] <xStammy> Well i probably lost that
#754 [13:33] <Eddie543> mh i look sec
#755 [13:33] <Nathan2055> It should be a year.
#756 [13:33] <|Kiikun|> xStammy: then tell them that and you need to access the router's settings.
#757 [13:33] <xStammy> Ok
#758 [13:34] <Eddie543> 19.0.0.128
#759 [13:34] <Nathan2055> No, the year...
#760 [13:34] <Eddie543> oh
#761 [13:34] <Eddie543> sec
#762 [13:34] <Nathan2055> Norton 2012?
#763 [13:35] <Eddie543> mh
#764 [13:35] <Eddie543> i dont know
#765 [13:35] <Eddie543> dosnt see it anywhere
#766 [13:35] <|Kiikun|> its 2012
#767 [13:35] <Nathan2055> What does it look like?
#768 [13:36] <Nathan2055> I use Norton and there is no problem for me.
#769 [13:36] <Nathan2055> Let's try something else.
#770 [13:36] <Eddie543> ok
#771 [13:36] <Red_Mist> drivers are complete? http://pastebin.com/jGKVnPKZ should I reboot?
#772 [13:36] <|Kiikun|> Red_Mist: if its asking to, yes
#773 [13:36] <Red_Mist> its not.
#774 [13:37] <Nathan2055> Reboot anyway, it helps sometimes.
#775 [13:37] <Red_Mist> k, brb
#776 [13:38] <Nathan2055> There we are.
#777 [13:38] <Eddie543> Nathan Another Idea ?
#778 [13:38] <Nathan2055> Okay, Eddie543?
#779 [13:38] <Eddie543> Mh ?
#780 [13:38] <Eddie543> Dosnt Work :0
#781 [13:38] <Eddie543> teamviewer ?
#782 [13:38] <Nathan2055> Let's try the java launcher.
#783 [13:38] <Eddie543> ok
#784 [13:39] <Nathan2055> Hmm, where are those instructions...
#785 [13:39] <EyesIsMine> kill norto
#786 [13:39] <Nathan2055> Just a sec.
#787 [13:39] * Nathan2055 facepalms
#787 [13:39] <Eddie543> no problem :> i wait
#788 [13:39] <Nathan2055> Hello, EyesIsMine
#789 [13:39] <EyesIsMine> java -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#790 [13:40] <Eddie543> is that the website :D ?
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#792 [13:40] <Nathan2055> Here we are.
#793 [13:40] <Red_Mist> m back.
#794 [13:40] <Nathan2055> :jardownload
#795 [13:40] <WugBot> jardownload: If you are having problems getting the normal Minecraft application to open you can run the java file (jar) itself. The instructions can be found at http://paste.ubuntu.com/877709/ courtesy of GreyVulpine.
#796 [13:40] <|Kiikun|> EyesIsMine: youre advising on something irrelevant to the problem...
#797 [13:40] <Nathan2055> Eddie543: ^
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#799 [13:40] <Eddie543> hö ß xD
#800 [13:40] <Eddie543> what now ?
#801 [13:41] <Eddie543> :jardownload in my URL ?
#802 [13:41] <Red_Mist> next step, try and convert a file again?
#803 [13:41] <EyesIsMine> wget https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar ; java -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#804 [13:41] <JoeUnverzagt> Hi there.
#805 [13:41] <Eddie543> sec
#806 [13:41] <Nathan2055> Hello.
#807 [13:41] <Eddie543> dont work
#808 [13:42] <Nathan2055> Eddie543: Do what WugBot said above.
#809 [13:42] <Eddie543> same like a do it on the normal way
#810 [13:42] <JoeUnverzagt> One short question. I just screwed up my minecraft folder while installing a few mods. Is there any way of getting a fresh installation of minecraft 1.1 somewhere?
#811 [13:42] <EyesIsMine> Eddie543, http://paste.ubuntu.com/877709/
#812 [13:42] <EyesIsMine> JoeUnverzagt, mc nostiwhatever
#813 [13:42] <Eddie543> k
#814 [13:42] <Nathan2055> JoeUnverzagt: That's easy.
#815 [13:42] <Nathan2055> JoeUnverzagt: Delete you mods folder,
#816 [13:42] <|Kiikun|> :oldversion
#817 [13:43] <|Kiikun|> orthat
#818 [13:43] <EyesIsMine> Nathan2055, nope
#819 [13:43] <Eddie543> big construktion xD
#820 [13:43] <Eddie543> im German give me a second to read
#821 [13:43] <Nathan2055> EyesIsMine: That's irrelevant.
#822 [13:43] <EyesIsMine> Nathan2055, nope
#823 [13:43] <Nathan2055> ...did he say 1.1
#824 [13:43] <JoeUnverzagt> And what about the things I dropped into the minecraft.jar?
#825 [13:43] <EyesIsMine> Nathan2055, ^^
#826 [13:44] <EyesIsMine> JoeUnverzagt, force update then mcnostil it
#827 [13:44] <JoeUnverzagt> mcnostil?
#828 [13:44] <|Kiikun|> ?? oldversion
#829 [13:44] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#830 [13:44] <Nathan2055> MCNostalgia
#831 [13:45] <Nathan2055> There we are,
#832 [13:45] <JoeUnverzagt> Ah ok, thank you.
#833 [13:45] <Red_Mist> well, thats might be the problem guys.
#834 [13:45] <|Kiikun|> also itsn ot up for 1.2.4 yet
#835 [13:45] <Nathan2055> Okay, Eddie543, you still with us?
#836 [13:45] <Red_Mist> go to run the program with opengl turned on, it kills catalyst control center.
#837 [13:45] <Red_Mist> then the game becomes un-responsive.
#838 [13:46] <EyesIsMine> not for me
#839 [13:46] <Eddie543> im here yea
#840 [13:46] <Eddie543> but i try to follow the construction
#841 [13:46] <Eddie543> second pls
#842 [13:47] <Nathan2055> Are you following my instructions?
#843 [13:47] <Nathan2055> :jardownload
#844 [13:47] <WugBot> jardownload: If you are having problems getting the normal Minecraft application to open you can run the java file (jar) itself. The instructions can be found at http://paste.ubuntu.com/877709/ courtesy of GreyVulpine.
#845 [13:47] <Eddie543> how can i change it as a bat. ?
#846 [13:47] <Nathan2055> ^
#847 [13:47] <Eddie543> Yea i do
#848 [13:47] <Nathan2055> Are you using Notepad?
#849 [13:47] <Eddie543> y
#850 [13:47] <Eddie543> notebook :D
#851 [13:47] <Eddie543> laptop ?
#852 [13:47] <|Kiikun|> notepad as in the text editor
#853 [13:47] <Eddie543> oh..
#854 [13:47] <Eddie543> second
#855 [13:47] <Nathan2055> Save that text has a txt, then change the txt extension to bat and ignore the warnings (it will work)
#856 [13:48] <Eddie543> k sec
#857 [13:48] <Eddie543> with "Pause" ?
#858 [13:48] <EyesIsMine> lolnotepad
#859 [13:48] <Eddie543> is Word the same ? or only the Editor ?
#860 [13:48] <|Kiikun|> word saves with formatting.
#861 [13:49] <Nathan2055> No, you have to use Notepad
#862 [13:49] <|Kiikun|> best to just use notepad.
#863 [13:49] <Eddie543> ok i done
#864 [13:49] <Eddie543> second
#865 [13:49] <Nathan2055> Search for it in your Start menu
#866 [13:49] <Nathan2055> Save that text has a txt, then change the txt extension to bat and ignore the warnings (it will work)
#867 [13:49] <EyesIsMine> still lolnotepad
#868 [13:49] <Eddie543> dosnt work
#869 [13:49] <Eddie543> same things like bevore
#870 [13:50] <|Kiikun|> EyesIsMine: you like textpad or something?
#871 [13:50] <Nathan2055> EyesIsMine: We are trying to use the jar format of Minecraft. We have to use Notepad to write a batch
#872 [13:50] <Eddie543> Can´t Connect to minecraft.net
#873 [13:50] <Nathan2055> Hmm
#874 [13:50] <Eddie543> and
#875 [13:50] <Nathan2055> Is your password right?
#876 [13:50] <Eddie543> Ofc
#877 [13:50] <Eddie543> i said, on my other laptop it works
#878 [13:50] <Eddie543> but i want to play with my girlfriend together
#879 [13:50] <Nathan2055> Hmm.
#880 [13:50] <Nathan2055> Kiikun: What do you want to do?
#881 [13:50] <Eddie543> u wanna now the thinks in the black box ?
#882 [13:51] <EyesIsMine> Nathan2055, you don't have to use notepad
#883 [13:51] <EyesIsMine> notepad++ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> notepad
#884 [13:51] <EyesIsMine> in every single way
#885 [13:51] <|Kiikun|> EyesIsMine: were not going to make someone install ANOTHER TEXT EDITOR when theres one that works perfectly fine
#886 [13:51] <Nathan2055> EyesIsMine: ^
#887 [13:52] <EyesIsMine> I'm giving useful advice
#888 [13:52] <Nathan2055> I know.
#889 [13:52] <Eddie543> guys i make u a screenshot from the Black Screen cmd.exe ok ?
#890 [13:52] <Nathan2055> But he's just writing one batch
#891 [13:52] <EyesIsMine> Eddie543, google "add java to path"
#892 [13:52] <EyesIsMine> Nathan2055, no need for a batch
#893 [13:52] <|Kiikun|> its out of context. i coudl advise people to install 400 different things that wouldnt help the direct problem
#894 [13:52] <Nathan2055> He doesn't need another utility to do that
#895 [13:52] <EyesIsMine> java -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
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#897 [13:53] * |Kiikun| waves to WugBot
#897 [13:54] <Red_Mist> I did some checkin, and It may be that windows media center 7 is causing my video drivers to crash, the fix is to re-install medea center, going to try that, and I will update you guys.
#898 [13:54] <EyesIsMine> Red_Mist, what graphics card.
#899 [13:54] <Red_Mist> saphire 6870 I believe
#900 [13:54] <EyesIsMine> how old is the cataylst drivers
#901 [13:55] <Calinou> AMD. (my answer)
#902 [13:55] <EyesIsMine> no shit
#903 [13:56] <Red_Mist> they are the newest one, just updated them 15 minutes ago.
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#905 [13:56] <EyesIsMine> ah
#906 [13:56] <Red_Mist> they were the same ones before update as well.
#907 [13:56] <Red_Mist> I'm usually pretty on top of that stuff.
#908 [13:56] <|Kiikun|> EyesIsMine: language please.
#909 [13:56] <Nathan2055> |Kiikun|!!!
#910 [13:56] <Nathan2055> There you are
#911 [13:56] <|Kiikun|> hmm?
#912 [13:57] <Nathan2055> Eddie543 wants to Teamviewer with someone
#913 [13:57] <Nathan2055> You want to?
#914 [13:57] <Eddie543> :o
#915 [13:57] <|Kiikun|> i was just debating going out for food ^^;
#916 [13:58] <EyesIsMine> time to go out for food then?
#917 [13:58] <Nathan2055> Kiikun: can you check your PMs?
#918 [14:02] <|Kiikun|> Eddie: is your computer 64 bit? or 32bit?
#919 [14:02] <Eddie543> 64 i think
#920 [14:02] <Eddie543> yea it is
#921 [14:02] <Nathan2055> What OS?
#922 [14:02] <|Kiikun|> Eddie543: been installing 64bit java?
#923 [14:02] <Eddie543> Win7
#924 [14:02] <Nathan2055> I think 7, right?
#925 [14:02] <Eddie543> i duno
#926 [14:02] <Eddie543> y
#927 [14:02] <Nathan2055> Yeah.
#928 [14:02] <|Kiikun|> :j
#929 [14:02] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u31-download-1501637.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 31)
#930 [14:02] <Nathan2055> Is that 64?
#931 [14:03] <|Kiikun|> last link is x64, the 64bit version
#932 [14:03] <Eddie543> Windows x64 (64-bit) 16.45 MB jre-6u31-windows-x64.exe
#933 [14:03] <Eddie543> ?
#934 [14:03] <Eddie543> ok second
#935 [14:03] <|Kiikun|> yes, install that one.
#936 [14:03] <Nathan2055> Uninstall all java's you currently have first
#937 [14:03] <Eddie543> okay second pls
#938 [14:03] <Eddie543> ok
#939 [14:03] <Eddie543> sec
#940 [14:03] <Nathan2055> Check Add or Remove Programs
#941 [14:04] <|Kiikun|> if you have java 7 of any kind, remove it. 7 has had some connection issues and not sure theyve been resolved yet.
#942 [14:05] <Nathan2055> Just as a rule, don't use Java 7.
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#946 [14:06] <Nathan2055> Hmm, I just had a good idea.
#947 [14:06] * |Kiikun| derps...
#947 [14:07] <|Kiikun|> Nathan2055: its.. POSSIBLE... that his system time is off and thats the problem. ^^;
#948 [14:08] <Nathan2055> ;+ java Get the latest Java update at http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u31-download-1501637.html (Java 6 Update 31) Do not use Java 7 with Minecraft. The installs for Windows are the third from bottom link for Windows XP and the last link for Windows Vista, 7, or 8.
#949 [14:08] <Nathan2055> :java
#950 [14:08] <WugBot> java: Java sucks and is stupid.
#951 [14:09] <Nathan2055> Kiikun: Should i change that factoid?
#952 [14:09] <|Kiikun|> ^^;
#953 [14:09] <Eddie> I somewhat agree with it
#954 [14:09] <|Kiikun|> use :j for the current version.
#955 [14:09] <Eddie> but just the language
#956 [14:09] <Nathan2055> I dislike java, actually.
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#958 [14:10] <Nathan2055> Most Minecraft players would agree with me. But it's the only thing MC can run on.
#959 [14:10] <Morrolan> Eh, it does its job. *shrug*
#960 [14:10] * |Kiikun| rails on C with http://comicjk.com/comic.php/897
#960 [14:11] <Morrolan> Haha.
#961 [14:11] <Nathan2055> So should I delete that factoid?
#962 [14:11] <EyesIsMine> no.
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#964 [14:12] <Nathan2055> Did you place that factoid?
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#966 [14:12] <EyesIsMine> yes, I did a dance on it first
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#968 [14:13] <Eddie806> mh
#969 [14:13] <Eddie806> the problem is
#970 [14:13] <Eddie806> when i only us the java when u give me, i cant login here o0
#971 [14:13] <Nathan2055> Eddie806: Are you the same as Eddie543?
#972 [14:14] <Eddie806> Yep
#973 [14:14] <Eddie806> i named Eddie so irc add some numbers
#974 [14:14] <Nathan2055> Okay, did you update java?
#975 [14:14] <Eddie806> Yep
#976 [14:14] <Eddie806> dosnt work <_<
#977 [14:14] <Nathan2055> ;help
#978 [14:15] <|Kiikun|> Eddie806: doublecheck that your system time is correct.
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#980 [14:15] <Eddie806> 19.15, 24.03.2012
#981 [14:15] <Nathan2055> That's incorrect.
#982 [14:15] <Eddie806> o0
#983 [14:15] <Eddie806> why
#984 [14:15] <|Kiikun|> depends on your timezone :P
#985 [14:15] <Eddie806> xD Germany :D
#986 [14:15] <|Kiikun|> its 2pm here
#987 [14:15] <Nathan2055> DST came on a few weeks ago
#988 [14:15] <Eddie806> löl
#989 [14:15] <Nathan2055> 2Pm here to
#990 [14:16] <Eddie806> where u from ?
#991 [14:16] <Nathan2055> I'm Eastern
#992 [14:16] <Eddie806> usa ?
#993 [14:16] <Nathan2055> Time Zone
#994 [14:16] <Eddie806> So i must try some other clock times :D ?
#995 [14:17] <Nathan2055> Kiikun: Check your PMs.
#996 [14:18] <|Kiikun|> Eddie806: no.. just wasnt sure your time was right...
#997 [14:18] <Red_Mist> uhg, checking into issues with ccc and the CLR20r3 error, its looking like re-install of windows might be my only fix for this.
#998 [14:19] <|Kiikun|> ?? error/cantconnect
#999 [14:19] <VoxelHead> error/cantconnect: Cannot connect to minecraft.net
#1000 [14:19] <VoxelHead> error/cantconnect: This error can occur for a number of reasons, including outdated java config, incorrect system time, or firewall issues. To fix it, make sure the system time is correct, check that java is allowed to access the internet, and if that fails, uninstall and reinstall java.
#1001 [14:19] <EyesIsMine> !auth
#1002 [14:19] <EyesIsMine> !login
#1003 [14:19] <|Kiikun|> EyesIsMine: why you tryign to !auth?
#1004 [14:19] <Nathan2055> Hey, Kiikun?
#1005 [14:19] <Nathan2055> What IRC client do you use?
#1006 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> |Kiikun| - Check https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#1007 [14:19] <|Kiikun|> mIRC
#1008 [14:20] <EyesIsMine> lolmirc
#1009 [14:20] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: did before
#1010 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> If browser can access that, the computer can access the login server. It's something else
#1011 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> If not, it's hosts file
#1012 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Check system time, check java version, check firewall
#1013 [14:20] <Red_Mist> any last suggestions, before backing up and doing this?
#1014 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Another indicator it's java 7, the news feed won't show up most of the time
#1015 [14:20] <Nathan2055> I'm going to BRB everyone.
#1016 [14:21] <Red_Mist> its been about 7 months since my last re-install anyway.
#1017 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> If it's not the usual suspects, it's the security software or firewall blocking minecraft
#1018 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Also, don't forget !
#1019 [14:21] <|Kiikun|> grey,, norton 2012?
#1020 [14:23] <Nathan2055> Hey, we didn't finish checking Norton!
#1021 [14:23] <Eddie806> :o ?
#1022 [14:23] <Nathan2055> We need to make sure java can get through your firewall!
#1023 [14:24] <Eddie806> okay
#1024 [14:24] <Eddie806> how
#1025 [14:24] <Nathan2055> That's what we need to figure out.
#1026 [14:24] * |Kiikun| knows avira doesnt like minecraft.. even when its turned off.
#1026 [14:24] <Eddie806> ah ok xD
#1027 [14:24] <Nathan2055> Give me a few minutes to Google this.
#1028 [14:24] <Eddie806> ofc thanks
#1029 [14:24] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: any known issues with northon?
#1030 [14:24] <Eddie806> we have 4 hours then i go to Pizza hut :D
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#1032 [14:26] <Denis> I can't seem to download MineCraft.jar from the website
#1033 [14:26] <Denis> Any help?
#1034 [14:27] <Red_Mist> F I X E D !!!
#1035 [14:27] <Red_Mist> yes.
#1036 [14:27] <Nathan2055> Denis: What's your OS?
#1037 [14:27] <Red_Mist> i'm glad I didnt re-install.
#1038 [14:27] <Eddie806> and nathan
#1039 [14:27] <|Kiikun|> Red_Mist: what was the issue?
#1040 [14:27] <Nathan2055> Red_Mist: Great!
#1041 [14:27] <Eddie806> Yes i have Norton 2012
#1042 [14:27] <Red_Mist> well..
#1043 [14:27] <Red_Mist> http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-cards/200146-ccc-vision-engine-control-keeps-becoming-unresponsive.html
#1044 [14:27] <Red_Mist> found this..;\
#1045 [14:27] <Nathan2055> Eddie806: I'm trying to ind an answer.
#1046 [14:28] <Red_Mist> my %appdata% folder was hidden... all I did, was unhide it.. ccc started working, and maps now convert.
#1047 [14:28] <Denis> I'm on Fedora 16
#1048 [14:28] <Red_Mist> such an odd fix, but it worked!
#1049 [14:28] <Nathan2055> Ugh. I can't find any answers.
#1050 [14:28] <Denis> Using Chrome
#1051 [14:28] <|Kiikun|> o.o; thats oddball
#1052 [14:28] <Nathan2055> :jardownload
#1053 [14:28] <WugBot> jardownload: If you are having problems getting the normal Minecraft application to open you can run the java file (jar) itself. The instructions can be found at http://paste.ubuntu.com/877709/ courtesy of GreyVulpine.
#1054 [14:28] <Nathan2055> ^
#1055 [14:28] <Nathan2055> Denis: ^
#1056 [14:29] <Nathan2055> Denis: Those are the instructions for Linux as well.
#1057 [14:29] <Denis> I just go a blank page
#1058 [14:29] <Nathan2055> Eddie806: I can't find any information.
#1059 [14:29] <Denis> And no Download
#1060 [14:29] <Nathan2055> Give me another minute.
#1061 [14:30] * |Kiikun| is fairly sure that is in wugbot already under a different name...
#1061 [14:30] <|Kiikun|> :ts/bat
#1062 [14:30] <WugBot> ts/bat: Could you please run minecraft using these instructions, it'll run minecraft in a command prompt window. Any errors will pop up there, please share them with us when you see them. http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh (Thanks GreyVulpine!)
#1063 [14:30] <|Kiikun|> hah
#1064 [14:30] <Nathan2055> Denis: Try http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#1065 [14:30] <sugoi> |Kiichan|Schala|: haha, and both credit grey
#1066 [14:30] <Eddie806> yea no problem i wait :)
#1067 [14:31] <|Kiikun|> yes :P
#1068 [14:31] <Denis> I know how to launch it
#1069 [14:31] * sugoi adds nick replace rule: s/GreyVulpine/Vulpine the Grey/
#1069 [14:31] <Denis> The download link is broken
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#1071 [14:31] <sugoi> |Kiichan|Schala|: blood nick completion, meant for |Kiikun|
#1072 [14:31] <Denis> Both the widows and OSX links work
#1073 [14:31] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: both are me anyway :P
#1074 [14:31] <Denis> It's just the linux one
#1075 [14:31] <sugoi> one is laptop right?
#1076 [14:31] <Nathan2055> Denis: You have to copy paste the link from http://pastebin.com/gDRbA6g2
#1077 [14:32] <Denis> I have
#1078 [14:32] <sugoi> or work or something
#1079 [14:32] <sugoi> i remember you telling me anyhow
#1080 [14:32] <Denis> It seem to be a broken link as well
#1081 [14:32] <|Kiikun|> Denis: i just downloaded it fine.... your browser blocking/derping?
#1082 [14:32] <Nathan2055> Does anybody have experience with Norton?
#1083 [14:33] <Denis> Well it works for the windows downloada
#1084 [14:33] <Nathan2055> :norton
#1085 [14:33] <Red_Mist> okay, so verifed everything fixe.. thanks again guys for thelp, got me in the right direction.. and now its fixed.
#1086 [14:33] <Nathan2055> Red_Mist: Great!
#1087 [14:33] <Denis> Can someone just upload the jar to mediafire?
#1088 [14:33] <sugoi> Denis: nay
#1089 [14:34] <Nathan2055> Denis: We don't allow that!
#1090 [14:34] <Denis> Why?
#1091 [14:34] <|Kiikun|> ?? tos
#1092 [14:34] <Nathan2055> :pirate
#1093 [14:34] <WugBot> pirate: We are not allowed to distribute or even tell you how to get Minecraft without paying. This includes links to hacked software for Minecraft.
#1094 [14:34] <Red_Mist> later
#1095 [14:34] <VoxelHead> tos: http://www.minecraft.net/terms - Yes, if you bought the game in beta, you get the full release too.
#1096 [14:34] <Denis> You can get it for free from their site anyway
#1097 [14:34] <Nathan2055> Yes, but you have to have an account to open the software.
#1098 [14:34] <|Kiikun|> we cant redistribute anything they made.
#1099 [14:34] <Nathan2055> sugoi?
#1100 [14:34] <sugoi> we talking the launcher or the bin/minecraft.jar?
#1101 [14:34] <|Kiikun|> even the launcher :P
#1102 [14:35] <sugoi> Nathan2055: sup?
#1103 [14:35] <Denis> I have a god damn account
#1104 [14:35] <sugoi> Denis: well that's probably why
#1105 [14:35] <Nathan2055> I need help getting Java to work with Norton 2012.
#1106 [14:35] <|Kiikun|> Denis: if chrome isnt letting you download https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar , try with a different browser
#1107 [14:35] <sugoi> damned accounts tend to not work
#1108 [14:35] <Nathan2055> Eddie806 Is having trouble.
#1109 [14:36] <Nathan2055> Denis: try Firefox http://www.getfirefox.com/
#1110 [14:36] <Denis> She lives
#1111 [14:36] <sugoi> heh
#1112 [14:36] <Eddie806> Nathan do u think, when i delete Norton, and Install a Other anti vir, that Minecraft work ?
#1113 [14:36] <sugoi> Nathan2055: uninstall norton, that's my best advice, really
#1114 [14:36] <Denis> I tried Firefox and it worked
#1115 [14:37] <Nathan2055> Eddie806: That's what Norton's site said to do.
#1116 [14:37] <Denis> Try Avast
#1117 [14:37] <Eddie806> realy ?
#1118 [14:37] <Denis> It's much better anyway
#1119 [14:37] <Nathan2055> Uninstall Norton and try again. Then reinstall it.
#1120 [14:37] <Eddie806> ok
#1121 [14:37] <Eddie806> second
#1122 [14:38] <Nathan2055> Be careful browsing without a antivirus program.
#1123 [14:38] <Eddie806> Yep
#1124 [14:39] <Eddie806> are u from usa `
#1125 [14:39] <Nathan2055> Did you try it with Norton Firewall just disabled?
#1126 [14:39] <Nathan2055> Yeah.
#1127 [14:39] <Eddie806> Yea i try
#1128 [14:39] <Eddie806> second i must restart the laptop
#1129 [14:39] <Eddie806> second i must restart the laptop
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#1131 [14:42] * sugoi rants: "I think it's braver and more responsible to recognize that anti-virus software vendors are not only telling us to be afraid, they are selling us fear. The entire anti-virus software industry is predicated on a bad architectural decision made by Microsoft fifteen years ago. And why, exactly, would any of these vendors want to solve the virus problem and put themselves out of business? "
#1131 [14:42] <sugoi> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/02/choosing-anti-anti-virus-software.html
#1132 [14:42] <sugoi> </rant>
#1133 [14:42] * Nathan2055 sighs
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#1134 [14:42] <Eddie276> Mh
#1135 [14:42] <Eddie276> Dosnt Work.
#1136 [14:43] <Nathan2055> Eddie276: Contact Norton. I'm at the end of my rope.
#1137 [14:43] <Eddie276> i delete norton so norton isnt the reson
#1138 [14:43] <Nathan2055> Reinstall Norton and contact Symantec.
#1139 [14:44] <Eddie276> Why :o
#1140 [14:44] <Eddie276> for what ?
#1141 [14:44] <Nathan2055> sugoi: any other suggestions?
#1142 [14:44] <Nathan2055> I don't know what to do...
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#1144 [14:44] <Eddie276> ._.
#1145 [14:45] <Eddie276> i dont understand it...
#1146 [14:45] <Nathan2055> I'm sorry.
#1147 [14:45] <Nathan2055> sugoi? |Kiikun|?
#1148 [14:45] <Eddie276> at my old 2 years old laptop
#1149 [14:45] <Eddie276> it works withour any problems
#1150 [14:45] <sugoi> haha, sorry, i haven't been following closely
#1151 [14:45] <Eddie276> and on my NEW 3 Weeks old laptop it dosnt work
#1152 [14:45] <sugoi> i kind of ignore stuff that includes antivirus in the description to be honest
#1153 [14:45] * Nathan2055 sighs
#1153 [14:45] <sugoi> but what's going on?
#1154 [14:45] <Nathan2055> He can't get Minecraft to connect.
#1155 [14:45] <Eddie276> my minecraft says : "Cannot Connect to minecraft.net
#1156 [14:46] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: basicly have tried everything and hes getting 'cant connect to minecraft.net'
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#1158 [14:46] <sugoi> cannot connect in any scenario?
#1159 [14:46] <|Kiikun|> nathan's going at the AV again. norton 2012
#1160 [14:46] <Eddie276> cannot connect in the game
#1161 [14:46] <sugoi> no pc in the house, no settings on any pc?
#1162 [14:46] <Nathan2055> We've reinstalled Java six times, checked antivirus, did the fake log-in test, everything.
#1163 [14:46] <Nathan2055> And his other PC will connect.
#1164 [14:46] <|Kiikun|> login.minecraft.net works.
#1165 [14:46] <sugoi> hitting login in .. ojk
#1166 [14:46] <sugoi> -j
#1167 [14:46] <|Kiikun|> launcher doesnt
#1168 [14:47] <sugoi> then clearly something is blocking java on that pc
#1169 [14:47] <Eddie276> mh...
#1170 [14:47] <Nathan2055> Yes.
#1171 [14:47] <|Kiikun|> thus going avter AV/firewall :P
#1172 [14:47] <sugoi> sorry, but i agree :)
#1173 [14:47] <sugoi> hehe
#1174 [14:47] * |Kiikun| going for food.
#1174 [14:47] <Eddie276> so what now ?
#1175 [14:47] * Nathan2055 shakes his head
#1175 [14:47] <Eddie276> sugoi u wanna look at my laptop with teamviewer :0 ?
#1176 [14:47] <Nathan2055> Clearly something won't let Java run.
#1177 [14:47] <sugoi> Eddie276: find what av/firewall settings you forgot about
#1178 [14:48] <Eddie276> i take a look
#1179 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Eddie - Has minecraft ever worked before?
#1180 [14:48] <sugoi> good question ^
#1181 [14:48] <Eddie> Okay let's do this
#1182 [14:48] <Eddie276> at this pc
#1183 [14:48] <Eddie276> not
#1184 [14:48] <Eddie276> i buyed bevor 3 weeks
#1185 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Eddie276 - Using windows?
#1186 [14:48] <Eddie276> yes
#1187 [14:48] <Eddie276> win 7
#1188 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Eddie276 - please go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#1189 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Please press enter, and tell me the folder's name it takes you to
#1190 [14:49] * sugoi facepalms, he forgot about that
#1190 [14:49] <Eddie276> um
#1191 [14:49] <Eddie276> only
#1192 [14:49] <Eddie276> Eva!
#1193 [14:49] <sugoi> haha
#1194 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> That would be the reason then
#1195 [14:49] <sugoi> literally?
#1196 [14:49] <sugoi> Eddie276: "Eva!" ?
#1197 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> The ! in your username is why minecraft won't work currently
#1198 [14:50] * Nathan2055 facepalms
#1198 [14:50] <sugoi> why..why why?
#1199 [14:50] <sugoi> WHY
#1200 [14:50] <Eddie276> wtf ?
#1201 [14:50] <sugoi> Eddie276: because ! breaks stuff
#1202 [14:50] <Nathan2055> MC doesn't support special characters in usertnames
#1203 [14:50] <Nathan2055> :!
#1204 [14:50] <WugBot> !: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#1205 [14:50] <WugBot> !: Special Character Workaround: http://wug.me/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work (though it usually does). Must be run as admin on vista/7.
#1206 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> We have two solutions for you. Either 1, you need to make a new windows account, one that doesn't have a ! in the name, or 2, use our workaround
#1207 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1208 [14:50] * Nathan2055 puts his head on the keyboard
#1208 [14:51] <sugoi> Eddie276: why do you have a ! in your username tho?
#1209 [14:51] <Eddie276> its my girlfriend ??? XD i dont know
#1210 [14:51] <sugoi> is it because you're excited? :)
#1211 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Ours is not to reason why, only to diagnose and fix
#1212 [14:51] <sugoi> haha
#1213 [14:51] <sugoi> yeah
#1214 [14:51] <Eddie276> so second
#1215 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Eddie276 - Download and run: http://wug.me/minecraft/fix/Install.exe
#1216 [14:51] <Eddie276> i must change the name in Eva without ! and then restart he pc ?
#1217 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft will run now
#1218 [14:52] <Nathan2055> No, don't change your username.
#1219 [14:52] <Eddie276> Rofl
#1220 [14:52] <Eddie276> it works now...
#1221 [14:52] <sugoi> Eddie276: you have two options, only one is to change the username, the other is a fix provided by that link GreyVulpine gave
#1222 [14:52] <Eddie276> omfg guys
#1223 [14:52] <Eddie276> xD
#1224 [14:52] <Eddie276> i love u
#1225 [14:52] <Nathan2055> It will only make Windows THINK you changed your username.
#1226 [14:52] <Nathan2055> Woo hoo!
#1227 [14:52] <Eddie276> But wait...
#1228 [14:52] <Nathan2055> We did it!
#1229 [14:52] <Nathan2055> ...
#1230 [14:53] <Eddie276> Error: Lybari anyting bla bla dosnt here... ?
#1231 [14:53] <Nathan2055> Huh?
#1232 [14:54] <Nathan2055> Well, I need to go.
#1233 [14:54] <Eddie276> Error: LoadLibrary failes With error 126
#1234 [14:54] <Nathan2055> See you all soon!
#1235 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> That would be a java problem.
#1236 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall java completely and reinstall it
#1237 [14:54] <Eddie276> i restart pc first cauze i change my username from Eva! in Eva
#1238 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Gah, don't do that
#1239 [14:55] <Eddie276> then i de and reisntall Java, and when it then didnt work i come again
#1240 [14:55] <Eddie276> why ?
#1241 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Changing the username does not change the folder's name in windows
#1242 [14:55] <Eddie276> ah ok
#1243 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall and reinstall java, then use our workaround: http://wug.me/minecraft/fix/Install.exe
#1244 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft should work then
#1245 [14:56] <Eddie276> ok wait pls :) i come back.
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#1247 [14:58] <Treeflex> is anyone elses minecraft kicking you off and saying memory full?
#1248 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> That'll happen frequently if you're on 32 bit java on a 32 bit OS, or you don't have enough RAM on your system
#1249 [14:59] <Treeflex> so i need to get 64bit java?
#1250 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> If you're on a 32 bit operating system, try turning down some of the video options in minecraft to limit RAM usage. Turn down the render distance from far to normal or lower, turn graphics from fancy to fast
#1251 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> If you have a 64 bit operating system, we would recommend installing 64 bit java
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#1253 [15:00] <Eddie> Same Thing
#1254 [15:00] <Guest26655> :(
#1255 [15:00] <Guest26655> w
#1256 [15:00] <w> yes?
#1257 [15:01] * w cries
#1257 [15:01] * Eddie015 [Eddie015@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1258 [15:01] <Eddie015> so im back
#1259 [15:01] * w waves to Eddie015
#1259 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> How did you uninstall java?
#1260 [15:01] <Eddie015> LoadLibrary Failed with Error 126
#1261 [15:01] <Eddie015> Yep
#1262 [15:01] <Eddie015> i deinstall
#1263 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> How did you uninstall it?
#1264 [15:02] <Eddie015> over Systemthings.... Programms. uninstall
#1265 [15:03] <Eddie015> LoadLibrary Failed with Error 126 is Graphiccard or not ?
#1266 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> For the most part, Error 126 is a java issue, but video drivers have been known to cause that as well.
#1267 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what video card you have?
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#1270 [15:04] <Eddie015> AMD Radeon HD 7470M
#1271 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to update it?
#1272 [15:04] <Eddie015> no....
#1273 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> You'll either need to head here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#1274 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> or to your laptop manufacturer's website to find updated drivers for it
#1275 [15:09] <Eddie015> grey
#1276 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#1277 [15:09] <Eddie015> do u think when i download ATIOGLXX.DLL and do it in the Order, then it can work ?
#1278 [15:10] <Eddie015> like here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6QPp3wM_QE
#1279 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> No.
#1280 [15:10] <Eddie015> Why ?
#1281 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> Don't rely on a youtube video for a how-to on video driver updates
#1282 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> It'll screw your computer up more.
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#1284 [15:13] <Eddie015> by amd
#1285 [15:13] <Eddie015> what i have ?
#1286 [15:13] <Eddie015> Desktop Graphics ?
#1287 [15:13] <Eddie015> or notebook Graphic ?
#1288 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> By your model number, it's a notebook/laptop
#1289 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> By your model number, it's a notebook/laptop
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#1291 [15:13] <Eddie015> the problem is
#1292 [15:14] <Eddie015> i have a 7470M
#1293 [15:14] <Eddie015> and i cant find there
#1294 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> Try an autodetect and install
#1295 [15:14] <Eddie015> k
#1296 [15:14] <Eddie015> Packard Bell is Asus right ?
#1297 [15:14] <Eddie015> or acer ?
#1298 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> They're 3 seperate companies..
#1299 [15:15] <Eddie015> ._.
#1300 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> You're asking me, is a Honda a Toyota or a Ford?
#1301 [15:15] <Eddie015> ok xD
#1302 [15:16] <|Kiikun|> ... ew pacbell
#1303 [15:16] <|Kiikun|> i keep forgetting theyre still in business
#1304 [15:16] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: in college for a stats class, i surveyed a few hundred students (what OS do you run?), many answered "Dell"
#1305 [15:17] <sugoi> we even gave them a multiple choice answer
#1306 [15:17] * GreyVulpine cries
#1306 [15:17] <sugoi> and they'd write in
#1307 [15:18] <Eddie015> mh
#1308 [15:18] <Eddie015> dosnt work
#1309 [15:18] <Eddie015> to
#1310 [15:18] <Eddie015> Update the graphic things
#1311 [15:19] <Eddie015> or wait i think i got it
#1312 [15:20] <Eddie015> funny story, world of warcraft works withour any problems with highes details :D and Minecraft make problems xd
#1313 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> World of warcraft doesn't use OpenGL. Minecraft does
#1314 [15:21] <Eddie015> true... i update my Graphic Card
#1315 [15:22] <|Kiikun|> lol... i just got my mc-name typoed as 'sexxy' XD
#1316 [15:22] * GreyVulpine snrks
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#1317 [15:26] <Eddie015> Grey ?
#1318 [15:26] <Freaky> hi
#1319 [15:26] <Eddie015> My VideoCard is on the Newest Version
#1320 [15:27] <Freaky> !paid bibi1000
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#1322 [15:28] <Freaky> !paid Bibi1000
#1323 [15:28] <Freaky> !paid Bibi10000
#1324 [15:28] <Morrolan> *ahem*
#1325 [15:28] <Morrolan> It won't suddendly change just because you use it a few times ;D
#1326 [15:29] <Freaky> !paid nicholas4821
#1327 [15:29] <Freaky> !paid nicholas4821
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#1329 [15:30] <|Kiikun|> Morrolan: if i hadnt ALREADY regged nutbunny i woulda done it now just to prove you wrong :P for the luls
#1330 [15:30] <Morrolan> ;D
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#1335 [15:55] <sine> hi
#1336 [15:55] <sugoi> sine: hello
#1337 [15:55] <sine> enchantments
#1338 [15:55] <sine> gold is the best material to enchant yes ?
#1339 [15:56] <sugoi> sine: gold has highest chance to get better enchants, yes
#1340 [15:56] <sine> but all you have to do is take off and put back on again to essentially "roll the dice" on the enchantments it offers right ?
#1341 [15:57] <sine> thats what i do anyway
#1342 [15:57] <sugoi> sine: yes and no
#1343 [15:57] <sugoi> sine: so, the enchant 'name' you see can be translated - but the same name is random in its meaning everytime
#1344 [15:58] <sugoi> sine: the 'yes' to the rolls is true for the 'level cost' - which is part of the enchant power
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#1346 [15:58] <sugoi> but the level cost is only a PART of that equation
#1347 [15:58] <sugoi> other vars go in
#1348 [15:58] <sugoi> a lvl 30 (cost) enchant could come out better (more powerful) than a lvl 40
#1349 [15:58] <sugoi> and part of that is the material
#1350 [15:59] <sugoi> see the wiki for a full description of this equation
#1351 [15:59] <sine> but gold doesnt last as long
#1352 [15:59] <sine> hardly at all
#1353 [15:59] <sugoi> which seems fair to give it so much advantage in enchanting
#1354 [16:01] <sine> so, there is not way to translate the enchanting. i want to get a gold axe and have it do the "drop more" enchantment, as i have diamonds uncovered in a mine but i have not dug them yet
#1355 [16:01] <sugoi> sine: 'furtune' enchant
#1356 [16:01] <sugoi> sine: right, you can translate that - but those WORDS you see will not help you
#1357 [16:02] <sugoi> one roll it could say "flaming fish" which means furtune, and the next roll could say "flaming fish" which means unbreaking
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#1359 [16:02] <sine> so the words mean NOTHING
#1360 [16:02] <sugoi> sine: correct
#1361 [16:03] <sugoi> it just makes it look cool :)
#1362 [16:03] <sugoi> ppl even made textures that show the translated letters
#1363 [16:11] <Finamenon> hello, I was wondering if anyone here has extensive experience fixing the out of memory crashes in the player client
#1364 [16:13] <Morrolan> If you're on a 64 bit OS then make sure you're using 64 bit Java.
#1365 [16:15] <sine> so sugoi there is not way of being specific with what enchantment you want
#1366 [16:15] <Finamenon> yeah my friend is definitely on a 64 bit OS
#1367 [16:15] <Finamenon> but we dont know how to determine if his java is
#1368 [16:16] <sugoi> sine: was afk - no, there is no way
#1369 [16:16] <sugoi> sine: random enchant is random
#1370 [16:16] <sugoi> :)
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#1372 [16:22] <sine> all the other tool enchantments are shit
#1373 [16:22] <sine> and there is no way to save/reload like in normal games ahah
#1374 [16:22] <sugoi> sine: :)
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#1376 [16:24] <Nathan2055> Howdy all!
#1377 [16:33] <sugoi> Finamenon: run java -version
#1378 [16:33] <sugoi> Nathan2055: hi
#1379 [16:33] <Nathan2055> sugoi: Hello!
#1380 [16:34] <Nathan2055> I just read the log, Eddie left?
#1381 [16:34] <Eddie> :'(
#1382 [16:34] <Eddie> Will it ever end?
#1383 [16:34] <Nathan2055> No, the other Eddie.
#1384 [16:34] <Morrolan> Finamenon - Open a command prompt by pressing wind+R, then type in "Java -version"
#1385 [16:34] <sugoi> Eddie: nope
#1386 [16:34] <Nathan2055> The one with the bad username.
#1387 [16:37] <Finamenon> thanks morro
#1388 [16:37] <sugoi> Finamenon: he got the idea from me
#1389 [16:37] <Nathan2055> sugoi: So the other Eddie did get his problem fixed?
#1390 [16:38] <sugoi> i degrated to something about his gpu driver, i didn't follow it as grey was helping
#1391 [16:38] <sugoi> degraded*
#1392 [16:38] <Nathan2055> Huh, okay.
#1393 [16:38] <Nathan2055> I just saw something cool.
#1394 [16:39] <Nathan2055> I'm watching a Let's Play, he made a random map.
#1395 [16:39] <sugoi> who?
#1396 [16:39] <Nathan2055> THREE surface ravines next to spawn
#1397 [16:39] <Nathan2055> Paulsoaresjr
#1398 [16:39] <Nathan2055> And he went down in one,
#1399 [16:40] <Nathan2055> found an abandoned mine with a chest,
#1400 [16:40] <Nathan2055> containing THREE diamonds,
#1401 [16:40] <Nathan2055> and Melon seeds
#1402 [16:40] <Nathan2055> Then two minutes later he finds a dungeon containing a double-chest and COCOA BEANS
#1403 [16:41] <Nathan2055> Every single exclusive item,
#1404 [16:41] <Nathan2055> right under spawn
#1405 [16:41] <Nathan2055> Next to an NPC Village
#1406 [16:42] <Nathan2055> The playlist is http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB0C0907CAB21A25E&feature=plcp , but one of the videos is missing
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#1408 [16:51] <Nathan2055> Hey, sugoi?
#1409 [16:51] <sugoi> sup
#1410 [16:51] <Nathan2055> Can I ask you a question?
#1411 [16:51] <sugoi> no
#1412 [16:52] <Nathan2055> ...
#1413 [16:52] * Nathan2055 facepalms
#1413 [16:52] <Nathan2055> Apparently, I lost my Nether portal.
#1414 [16:52] <sugoi> you the guy that was lost in the nether?
#1415 [16:53] <Nathan2055> Yeah...
#1416 [16:53] <sugoi> do you have a minimap?
#1417 [16:53] <Nathan2055> Yeah.
#1418 [16:53] <sugoi> rei?
#1419 [16:53] <Nathan2055> No, I mean a normal minimap.
#1420 [16:54] <Nathan2055> Paper + Compass
#1421 [16:54] <sugoi> o
#1422 [16:54] <Nathan2055> Ended up finding the spot where the portal is supposed to be...
#1423 [16:54] <sugoi> well in basic survival - if you're lost, you drink your piss
#1424 [16:54] <Nathan2055> but mined DOWN when I should have gone UP
#1425 [16:55] <oldtopman> :D---->-|:
#1426 [16:55] <Nathan2055> Well, have you tried the new MCEdit update?
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#1428 [16:57] <sugoi> new since when? i'm going to guess no
#1429 [16:58] <sugoi> oldtopman: i don't want to figure out your ascii art
#1430 [16:58] <Nathan2055> The unstable 1.2.3 patch that is supposedly stable
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#1432 [16:58] <Nathan2055> Maybe I should just get TMI...
#1433 [17:00] <sugoi> so you'll cheat with tmi, but you don't want to die?
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#1435 [17:00] <sugoi> is this solo or multi?
#1436 [17:01] <Nathan2055> Solo
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#1438 [17:01] <sugoi> and you have no wood, right?
#1439 [17:01] <Nathan2055> None
#1440 [17:01] <sugoi> what about a fortress?
#1441 [17:02] <|Kiikun|> grow a jungle tree
#1442 [17:02] <sugoi> no wood, but has a sapling
#1443 [17:02] <Nathan2055> I have a sword, a shovel, cheap armor, a compass, an axe, a map, and a bow and arrows
#1444 [17:03] <Nathan2055> No pick, and no blocks
#1445 [17:04] <sugoi> no pick? :)
#1446 [17:04] <sugoi> and no fortress in sight?
#1447 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Wow, you're kinda screwed
#1448 [17:04] <Nathan2055> I got lost looking for a (beep) fortress
#1449 [17:04] <sugoi> but you said you mined down when you should have gone up, can you not return there and go up?
#1450 [17:05] <Nathan2055> And my attempt to escape trapped me in a giant pit
#1451 [17:05] <Nathan2055> At bedrock level
#1452 [17:05] <sugoi> but you can hand dig! :)
#1453 [17:05] <sugoi> haah
#1454 [17:05] <sugoi> how have you not starved by now?
#1455 [17:05] <Nathan2055> In order to get up, I could hand dig and then head back to the spot where a dug down, that might work!
#1456 [17:05] <Nathan2055> I switched to Peaceful
#1457 [17:05] <sugoi> ah
#1458 [17:06] <Nathan2055> How could a fortress have helped me?
#1459 [17:06] <sugoi> chests...store items, die, come back?
#1460 [17:06] <sugoi> :)
#1461 [17:06] <Omega_Guardian> since there is no ingame gps thing that actually is useable last I knew (map is lollery), writing down coords helps
#1462 [17:06] <sugoi> haha, "lollery"
#1463 [17:07] <Nathan2055> There are chests in fortresses?
#1464 [17:07] <sugoi> i thought i found on once...
#1465 [17:07] <|Kiikun|> yup
#1466 [17:07] <sugoi> am i smoking pot?
#1467 [17:07] <sugoi> ok, phew
#1468 [17:07] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: can i have some? :P
#1469 [17:07] <Nathan2055> ...I don't think so...
#1470 [17:07] <|Kiikun|> they have chests in them sometimes
#1471 [17:07] <sugoi> |Kiikun|: :/
#1472 [17:08] <Nathan2055> In any case, I guess I should try to escape my pit of doom.
#1473 [17:08] <Nathan2055> I have no idea how though...
#1474 [17:08] <Omega_Guardian> one Team Fortress 2 server had a medieval castle map running all the time, it had a text changer thing so lol appears as lollery
#1475 [17:08] <sugoi> i love my work mouse
#1476 [17:08] <Nathan2055> Okay, let's try and do this!
#1477 [17:08] <sugoi> http://www.hardware-pacers.com/reviews_images/Microsoft_Intellimouse_Explorer_3/Intellimouse_main.jpg
#1478 [17:09] <Nathan2055> If I leave, blame Firefox.
#1479 [17:09] * GreyVulpine blehs at intellimouse
#1479 [17:09] <sugoi> bring it!
#1480 [17:09] <Nathan2055> Do you want pics of my death thrap?
#1481 [17:09] <Nathan2055> *trap
#1482 [17:09] * GreyVulpine brings his g500: http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/logitech_gaming_mouse_g500.jpg
#1482 [17:10] <sugoi> :) my hand doesn't like those as much
#1483 [17:10] <|Kiikun|> sugoi: i had an explorer. have sidewinder x8 now :P
#1484 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> I absolute love them. Adjustable DPI, adjustable weight system. A dedicated button to switch from clicky mouse wheel, to free-scroll
#1485 [17:11] <Omega_Guardian> if you have a logitech one, it seems the intellipoint thing that loads itself up breaks Killing Floor middle mouse button useage. Even with game detection enabled, it just makes it not useable
#1486 [17:11] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: oh that's the adj. weight one? hah, hardcore bro
#1487 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Makes for scrolling through long PDFs and website more bearable
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#1489 [17:12] <Morrolan> Ah, that's a feature I miss on my mouse.
#1490 [17:13] <Morrolan> Apart from that it's great though. :)
#1491 [17:13] * LilLucy hugs Morrolan ;;
#1491 [17:13] * Morrolan hugs LilLucy, too
#1491 [17:13] <LilLucy> :D
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#1493 [17:14] <Nathan2055> I'm spiral stair-casing up.
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#1495 [17:21] <Crossing2000> I still have the server updating issue, can anyone help?
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#1497 [17:22] <Morrolan> "server updating issues"?
#1498 [17:22] <Crossing2000> hang on
#1499 [17:23] <Crossing2000> it says this: https://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/updating_issues-7x5tu
#1500 [17:23] <Morrolan> Err.
#1501 [17:23] <Morrolan> Didn't see that one before, so you'll have to wait for someone else I'm afraid.
#1502 [17:24] <Morrolan> You weren't using any mods which added additional blocks or something like that?
#1503 [17:24] <Crossing2000> nope, vanilla
#1504 [17:24] <Crossing2000> had this since the previous update
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#1508 [17:30] <lemon-rev> Crossing2000 looks like the server is broke, maybe it could be possible to convert the server world useing minecraft it self then copying it back to the server directory and cross fingers
#1509 [17:31] <Crossing2000> tried that, minecraft black-screened
#1510 [17:31] <lemon-rev> black screened but it was working before correect ?
#1511 [17:32] <lemon-rev> is it the world that is corrupt possibly
#1512 [17:32] <lemon-rev> could try useing mcedit or world edit to load up the map the resave it and try minecraft just saying
#1513 [17:33] <lemon-rev> Crossing2000 when do you get that black screen btw ?
#1514 [17:35] <Crossing2000> after trying to convert in minecraft
#1515 [17:35] <lemon-rev> Crossing2000 so a new world would work correct ?
#1516 [17:36] <Nathan2055> I'm having second thoughts about building a giant spiral staircase.
#1517 [17:36] <Nathan2055> Maybe I should just die and respawn.
#1518 [17:36] <lemon-rev> Nathan2055 why do you care to do such drastic things lol
#1519 [17:36] <Crossing2000> It should
#1520 [17:37] <Nathan2055> Well, I have gear worth about twenty iron on me.
#1521 [17:37] <lemon-rev> can can you test please
#1522 [17:37] <Omega_Guardian> only issue with spiral, is difficulty to climb up easy
#1523 [17:37] <Nathan2055> Sigh.
#1524 [17:37] <Nathan2055> I'm going to die and respawn.
#1525 [17:37] <lemon-rev> depends on how difficult you wish it to be :P
#1526 [17:37] <Nathan2055> :nether
#1527 [17:37] <Nathan2055> Huh.
#1528 [17:38] <Nathan2055> I'm going to jump.
#1529 [17:38] <lemon-rev> Nathan2055 do as you wish
#1530 [17:39] <Nathan2055> Whew.
#1531 [17:39] <Nathan2055> Back in the overworld.
#1532 [17:41] <Nathan2055> What the...
#1533 [17:41] <Nathan2055> All my gear I thought I lost was in my chest at home...
#1534 [17:42] <Nathan2055> Weird.
#1535 [17:42] <lemon-rev> Nathan2055 do you have to tell us everything your doing in mc ?
#1536 [17:42] <Nathan2055> Okay, okay.
#1537 [17:42] <lemon-rev> this is a help channel
#1538 [17:42] <lemon-rev> damm
#1539 [17:42] <Nathan2055> Sorry, sorry.
#1540 [17:43] <lemon-rev> np
#1541 [17:43] <Crossing2000> well, It decided to actually convert it this time
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#1543 [17:45] <BanBang> I have a redstone related question.
#1544 [17:45] <lemon-rev> BanBang well hope someone can help
#1545 [17:45] <BanBang> How do I make the process go in reverse?
#1546 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> What process?
#1547 [17:45] <BanBang> Like If I want 2 pistons to activeate and then deactiveate in reverse oder
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#1549 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> repeaters, set a larger delay on the latter one
#1550 [17:46] <BanBang> Ive tried that
#1551 [17:46] <BanBang> It doesn't change much
#1552 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Did you try doubling up on a repeater for one?
#1553 [17:47] <BanBang> Yep
#1554 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> Got a screenshot or something of this setup you're trying?
#1555 [17:48] <BanBang> I'll get one
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#1557 [17:55] <BanBang> http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd129/DomSaxton/2012-03-24_215126.png
#1558 [17:55] <BanBang> http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd129/DomSaxton/2012-03-24_215144.png
#1559 [17:55] <BanBang> http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd129/DomSaxton/2012-03-24_215149.png
#1560 [17:55] <BanBang> http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd129/DomSaxton/2012-03-24_215153.png
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#1562 [18:01] <BanBang> Hello?
#1563 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, moment
#1564 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> I think you wanted the repeaters on either side of the pistons pushing the piston.. and a repeater free line to the top
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#1566 [18:21] <Nathan2055> Ouch, point blank Creeper explosion!
#1567 [18:26] <Nathan2055> Good bye, all!
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#1592 [21:09] <SinZ> ?? win\host
#1593 [21:09] <SinZ> ?? win\hosts
#1594 [21:09] <SinZ> ?? index
#1595 [21:09] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#1596 [21:09] <SinZ> ?? win/hosts]
#1597 [21:09] <SinZ> ?? win/hosts
#1598 [21:13] <langkid1> hi SinZ
#1599 [21:13] <SinZ> hi
#1600 [21:13] <SinZ> dad has an "Interesting" virus
#1601 [21:14] <langkid1> O.o
#1602 [21:18] <SinZ> Redirects stuff on the google search, to random websites
#1603 [21:18] <SinZ> explorer crashs alot
#1604 [21:19] <SinZ> And has a faulty digital signiture
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#1609 [22:17] <langkid1> :D notch is already developing another game like he did minecraft?
#1610 [22:18] <Pepper> not going to be cuboid
#1611 [22:18] <CrusaderDeleters> :O
#1612 [22:18] <CrusaderDeleters> I am planning on a game like minecraft
#1613 [22:18] <CrusaderDeleters> except it will use mini voxels that represent elements
#1614 [22:19] <CrusaderDeleters> I will try to make a real life game :3
#1615 [22:19] <CrusaderDeleters> It'll be called "life sim"
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#1617 [22:21] <langkid1> Pepper, yeah, but the MCfs made it sound like he's doing the same development "stages"
#1618 [22:21] <langkid1> CrusaderDeleters, pray that EA doesn't come after you for The Sims copyrights
#1619 [22:22] <CrusaderDeleters> They cannot
#1620 [22:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Because it's a whole different kind of game
#1621 [22:23] <CrusaderDeleters> and the name? sim is short for simulation.
#1622 [22:23] <Pepper> langkid1: Wouldn't be surprised, look how well it worked for MC
#1623 [22:23] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#1624 [22:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Remember bethesda and
#1625 [22:23] <CrusaderDeleters> "scrolls"?
#1626 [22:23] <langkid1> lol, what a fail on zenimax's part
#1627 [22:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Gah. If bethesda really went through on it, I'd never play any of their games again.
#1628 [22:24] <langkid1> CrusaderDeleters, oh, EA will probably find a stupid reason to do it like bethesda found a stupid reason to sue
#1629 [22:24] <CrusaderDeleters> yeah.
#1630 [22:25] <CrusaderDeleters> But then I'll challenge them to a game.
#1631 [22:25] <langkid1> lol
#1632 [22:25] <CrusaderDeleters> haha.
#1633 [22:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Joke, of course.
#1634 [22:25] <langkid1> notch wasn't joking :<
#1635 [22:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Who bets a lot of money on playing black ops?
#1636 [22:25] <CrusaderDeleters> I know he wasn't.
#1637 [22:25] <CrusaderDeleters> He would have lost, too.
#1638 [22:25] <CrusaderDeleters> I'd place some money on that.
#1639 [22:25] <langkid1> so, why doesn't jeb show up anymore?
#1640 [22:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Wait, show up for what? :o
#1641 [22:26] <langkid1> I believe he said something about NickServ screwing him on his twitter?
#1642 [22:26] <langkid1> show up on EsperNet
#1643 [22:26] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#1644 [22:26] <CrusaderDeleters> oh
#1645 [22:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Idk.
#1646 [22:26] <langkid1> fail
#1647 [22:26] <CrusaderDeleters> But I'd be quite a happy little duckling if I actualyl got to speak with notch or jebs.
#1648 [22:26] <langkid1> you used to be able to :(
#1649 [22:26] <CrusaderDeleters> :)
#1650 [22:26] <CrusaderDeleters> :(*
#1651 [22:27] <langkid1> oh he was last seen on the 22nd
#1652 [22:27] <langkid1> and his user was last seen yesterday!
#1653 [22:27] <langkid1> :D
#1654 [22:27] <CrusaderDeleters> who, jebs?
#1655 [22:27] <langkid1> I bet he doesn't hang out here because of all the raw derp that happens
#1656 [22:27] <CrusaderDeleters> oh yeah.
#1657 [22:27] <langkid1> well, the account "jeb" was
#1658 [22:27] <langkid1> I don't know if it's our jeb or not
#1659 [22:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Probably hangs out in something like #346562789063yghwetbgw346bjo9srj89tjsr
#1660 [22:27] <CrusaderDeleters> or #mindfugg
#1661 [22:28] <langkid1> /whowas isn't returning anything for jeb
#1662 [22:29] <Pepper> I see jeb in #mcp and #risucraft usually
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#1665 [22:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol. I'd be even more grateful if I met them in person.
#1666 [22:45] <CrusaderDeleters> I can blame my future success on two people: Notch and my Teacher.
#1667 [22:45] <Wug> langkid1: thats the real jeb
#1668 [22:46] <Wug> his account deregistered, he recreated it
#1669 [22:48] <CrusaderDeleters> I hate the deregristation :(
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#1672 [22:53] <blakeman1> hello
#1673 [22:54] <blakeman1> anybody here?
#1674 [22:55] <oldtopman> ??> blakeman1 sak
#1675 [22:55] <oldtopman> ??> blakeman1 ask
#1676 [22:55] <CrusaderDeleters> hia oldtop. :)
#1677 [22:55] <VoxelHead> blakeman1: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1678 [22:55] <VoxelHead> blakeman1: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1679 [22:55] <CrusaderDeleters> lol sak.
#1680 [22:56] <oldtopman> CrusaderDeleters: 'sup?
#1681 [22:56] <CrusaderDeleters> sup.
#1682 [22:56] <CrusaderDeleters> just a friendly hi. :)
#1683 [22:57] <oldtopman> Did you get your program working?
#1684 [23:01] <blakeman1> sorry
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#1686 [23:10] <yougotthatyou> I downloaded the free version of minecraft of the website to try it out, but it's really laggy. I got java 64bit installed, and I know my laptop can handle it because it did just fine with mass effect 2? Can anyone please help me figure out why it's so laggy, cause I want to buy the game, but not if it's just going to be laggy
#1687 [23:11] <Wug> there is no free version of minecraft
#1688 [23:11] <yougotthatyou> yeah there is
#1689 [23:11] <Wug> I assure you, there is not
#1690 [23:11] <Wug> there is no up to date free version
#1691 [23:12] <yougotthatyou> http://www.minecraft.net/ it's under "buy now"
#1692 [23:12] <yougotthatyou> play minecraft
#1693 [23:12] <yougotthatyou> and download
#1694 [23:12] <Wug> you cannot play it without first buying it
#1695 [23:12] <yougotthatyou> is that why it's laggy?
#1696 [23:13] <Wug> its probably laggy because your graphics drivers are outdated
#1697 [23:13] <yougotthatyou> I just got a brand new laptop a couple weeks ago
#1698 [23:13] <yougotthatyou> there not outdated
#1699 [23:13] <Wug> have it your way
#1700 [23:13] <Wug> come back and ask us for help after you own the game
#1701 [23:14] <yougotthatyou> I just want to know if it will still be laggy when I buy the game
#1702 [23:15] <Wug> if its out of date graphics drivers then we can fix that
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#1705 [23:17] <CrusaderDeleters> I didnt, oldtopman :(
#1706 [23:17] <yougotthatyou> well how do I check and see if they are?
#1707 [23:18] <Wug> follow these directions:
#1708 [23:18] <Wug> :dx
#1709 [23:18] <WugBot> dx: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1710 [23:18] <WugBot> dx: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#1712 [23:22] <Whist34> Wedge Editor question 0.2.2 - MC1.2.3 - When I use Easy Mode and set the Sea Level Scale it seems to always make water and clouds really close together. Is there a good general setting to keep them apart?
#1713 [23:23] <blakeman1> This place isnt for mods
#1714 [23:23] <Whist34> Ok - thanks
#1715 [23:23] <blakeman1> go to the forums and try please
#1716 [23:23] <egolego> place isnt for blakes
#1717 [23:24] <blakeman1> what about for egos?
#1718 [23:24] <egolego> buh bye
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#1720 [23:24] <blakeman1> ii guess thats a no
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#1722 [23:25] <yougotthatyou> it wont let me past the Captcha no matter how many times I try, (and im not messing up)
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#1724 [23:30] <Whist34> #minecraft
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