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#24 [05:29] <keno10> i have problem on ubuntu with minecraft
#25 [05:30] <keno10> i trz open JDK 7
#26 [05:30] <keno10> try*
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#33 [06:57] <m0nk> any update to mc?
#34 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> No
#35 [06:59] <m0nk> are you a bot?
#36 [07:00] <m0nk> whats coming next update? has the skill tree's and skill points been fixed for the level levels system?
#37 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> I am not a bot. We do not know what else is coming in the next update
#38 [07:03] <m0nk> vulpine. is that a gene in the vulpix aka the fire pokemon eevie?
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#40 [07:04] <GreyVulpine> No, it's latin.
#41 [07:04] * Grim_Reaper hugs GreyVulpine (hope you're well :3)
#41 [07:08] * GreyVulpine gives Grim_Reaper a cupcake
#41 [07:08] <Grim_Reaper> <3 thanks heh ~afk to watch a movie
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#50 [09:08] <Noman23> People! where I can download mineñraft Server 1.2.3 Pls link
#51 [09:08] <DiskDaemon> From your minecraft.net user account
#52 [09:09] <Noman23> i can't find it =(
#53 [09:10] <DiskDaemon> Go to minecraft.net and log in, are you there?
#54 [09:11] <DiskDaemon> Do you see where it says "Play Minecraft" and just below that has links for "In browser | Download" ?
#55 [09:11] <Calinou> minecraft server 1.2.3 is no longer available
#56 [09:11] <Calinou> and MCNostalgia doesn't support reverting servers to older verions
#57 [09:12] <Calinou> you might use older bukkit versions, that should work.
#58 [09:12] <Calinou> http://dl.bukkit.org > alternate versions
#59 [09:12] <DiskDaemon> I'm sorry, I plum forgot we updated to 1.2.4 recently
#60 [09:12] <Calinou> keep in mind bukkit isn't the vanilla server, however
#61 [09:12] <Calinou> craftbukkit for 1.2.3, latest beta: http://dl.bukkit.org/downloads/craftbukkit/get/00892_1.2.3-R0.2/craftbukkit-beta.jar
#62 [09:20] <langkid1> oo.oo
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#74 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#75 [10:34] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#76 [10:34] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
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#82 [10:51] <zenon> hi there is a new update 1.2.4. but after updating my game i couldn´t play on my own server - pls can anybody help me - how can i update my own server?
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#86 [11:16] <Petrus> does anyone here know if there is an irc channel for the millenaire mod? I can't see one here...and the wiki doesn't have the information I'm looking for.
#87 [11:16] <Morrolan> You could ask in #risucraft wheter they know of a channel related to that mod.
#88 [11:16] <Morrolan> Or just ask in its forum thread. :)
#89 [11:16] <Morrolan> whether*
#90 [11:17] <Petrus> ok...I'll try #risucraft...thanks :)
#91 [11:17] <Petrus> ok...I'll try #risucraft...thanks :)
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#94 [11:21] <M1n3cr4ftr> why wont java uninstall
#95 [11:25] <Ketsueki> because M1n3cr4ftr is an idiot
#96 [11:25] <Ketsueki> Or alternately; because windows isn't COW with file access/deletions
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#102 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> !weather hell
#103 [11:46] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan (11:45a Mar 27 12) temp(40.9 F / 4.9 C, feels like 41 F / 5 C) cond(Mostly Cloudy) wind(East at 2.0 mph / 3.2 km/h) hu(58%) dewpnt(27 F / -3 C) bp(30.27 in / 1025 hPa (Falling)) clouds(Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 7500 ft / 2286 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(3 out of 16)
#104 [11:46] <GreyBot> Tuesday: Partly cloudy. High of 54F. Winds less than 5 mph.
#105 [11:46] <GreyBot> Alert: Freeze warning in effect until 10 am EDT this morning...
#106 [11:54] <Morrolan> Freeze warning?
#107 [11:54] <Morrolan> Poor you.
#108 [11:54] <Pepper> Yay ice
#109 [11:54] * GreyVulpine notes it's nearly noon.
#109 [11:55] * Wug notes that he is hungry
#109 [11:55] * GreyVulpine is duly noted
#109 [11:55] * Pepper notes he's eating breakfast
#109 [11:55] <Wug> I wish we all lived close enough together to randomly decide to eat somewhere
#110 [11:55] <Wug> roommates are cool about that
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#112 [11:56] <Mctunnels> anyone have a vanilla 1.2.3 server jar?
#113 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> No.
#114 [11:56] <Wug> Mctunnels: try mcnostalgia
#115 [11:56] <Wug> and read the tos
#116 [11:57] <Morrolan> ^ suuuure
#117 [11:57] <Mctunnels> damn im just goignt o have to take it out of my bros hide
#118 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> mcnostalgia doesn't do server jars
#119 [11:57] <Mctunnels> yea doesnt work on servers
#120 [11:57] <Wug> it doesnt? bleh
#121 [11:57] * Wug does a binary diff and sends him that
#121 [11:57] <Mctunnels> and i know you cant hand the jars out
#122 [11:58] <Wug> try google
#123 [11:58] <Mctunnels> but this is the one i didnt backup and bro updated it killing the server
#124 [11:58] <Mctunnels> have ben for 3 days lol
#125 [11:58] <Wug> define "killing"
#126 [11:58] <Mctunnels> bc/ic2/redpower2 all dont work on 1.2.4
#127 [11:58] <Morrolan> You could just use Craftbukkit I guess, if you are able to find your way around it. As long as you don't add any plugins it'll be pretty much the same as the Vanilla server.
#128 [11:58] <Wug> wait for them to uopdate
#129 [11:58] <Mctunnels> so the world is crapped
#130 [11:59] <Morrolan> Oh, mods, disregard in thsi case.
#131 [11:59] <Morrolan> this*
#132 [11:59] <Mctunnels> yea thanks for trying morrolan
#133 [12:00] <Mctunnels> im sure someone that runs a vanilla server will give me a copy once i find one lol
#134 [12:03] <Mctunnels> OMG where do i need to send my bro first born.. you just saved his life
#135 [12:04] <Morrolan> He can keep it, we don't have any use for little babies here I think. :)
#136 [12:04] <Mctunnels> child labor is all the rage again i hear lol
#137 [12:05] <Morrolan> Yea, public opinion changing that much made child workers pretty useless. :(
#138 [12:05] <Mctunnels> thank you thank thank mate
#139 [12:06] <Mctunnels> now to copy it into the 4 back-up drives
#140 [12:06] <Morrolan> Heh.
#141 [12:06] <Mctunnels> hope you have a good day and get a bj or somethign lol
#142 [12:06] <Mctunnels> hope you have a good day and get a bj or somethign lol
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#144 [12:07] <Morrolan> That enthusiasm.
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#146 [12:10] <Pepper> Wow lol
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#151 [12:52] * |Kiikun|Janus| gasks
#151 [12:52] <Wug> looks like the interherps just derped
#152 [12:53] <|Kiikun|Janus|> possibly
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#154 [12:55] <shrekster> hi
#155 [12:56] <|Kiikun|Janus|> def.
#156 [12:56] <shrekster> hi
#157 [12:56] <Wug> hello
#158 [12:57] <shrekster> I have a bug queastion
#159 [12:57] <|Kiikun|Janus|> VoxelHead: say hi
#160 [12:57] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :P
#161 [12:58] <shrekster> ok so I had a powered minecart going
#162 [12:58] <shrekster> and I put coal in it
#163 [12:58] <shrekster> and it went in circles
#164 [12:59] <|Kiikun|Janus|> please type more than 5 words before hitting enter. this isnt twitter.
#165 [12:59] * Wug chirps
#165 [12:59] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Wug: you twit.
#166 [12:59] <shrekster> I went out of the game and came back in and the powered minecart wasn't there and I was standing right in front of it
#167 [13:00] <shrekster> what happened?
#168 [13:00] <|Kiikun|Janus|> this was single player?
#169 [13:00] <Wug> shrekster: minecraft makes mistakes sometimes
#170 [13:00] <Wug> it might be a bug, see if you can make it happen again
#171 [13:00] <shrekster> yes it was single
#172 [13:00] <Wug> otherwise it might be a bug but theres probably nothing we can do about it
#173 [13:00] <Wug> if you can reproduce it it might get fixed
#174 [13:00] <shrekster> this isnt the first bug ive had
#175 [13:01] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ^
#176 [13:01] <Wug> minecraft has .. lots of bugs
#177 [13:01] <shrekster> I had 2 pigs and 1 sheep
#178 [13:01] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ive actually been warry of using storage minecarts because i was affraid of random despawning.
#179 [13:02] <shrekster> I exit and come backthe next day and there were 3 pigs 0 sheep
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#182 [13:02] <shrekster> sorry about the grammer
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#184 [13:03] <|Kiikun|Janus|> i dun teenk we's rally care bout grammah.
#185 [13:03] <|Kiikun|Janus|> except Morrolan that is :P
#186 [13:03] <shrekster> and yesterday I came back and I had 4 pigs 0 sheep and I didnt get that extra pig
#187 [13:03] <Morrolan> dingdingding
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#189 [13:03] <Morrolan> And yea, kind of. :P
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#191 [13:04] <shrekster> I want sheep
#192 [13:05] <shrekster> the only one I have now is a tree sheep
#193 [13:05] <|Kiikun|Janus|> i think theres some buggery with the entity-saving code... but unless someone can cause it to be reproduced itll be too hard for jeb and jonk to track it down :/
#194 [13:05] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ex: minecarts disapearing.. or suddenly multiplying
#195 [13:06] <shrekster> so if I can make it happen again someone will or wont try to fix it
#196 [13:06] <shrekster> ?
#197 [13:06] <shrekster> but i have 1.2
#198 [13:06] <|Kiikun|Janus|> try to find a way to make it happen that can be repeated.
#199 [13:06] <shrekster> i have not updated yet
#200 [13:07] <shrekster> ok
#201 [13:07] <shrekster> brb
#202 [13:07] <|Kiikun|Janus|> stuff like that has been around since beta :P
#203 [13:08] <shrekster> well I have the cart going in circles
#204 [13:10] <shrekster> ahhh I c what happened
#205 [13:11] <|Kiikun|Janus|> well? dont leave me hangin man! :P
#206 [13:11] <shrekster> the cart was still going and it had to stop and i didnt know what to do and it took the miecart
#207 [13:11] <shrekster> sorry I don't type fast
#208 [13:13] <shrekster> do you think thats what happened?
#209 [13:13] <shrekster> why is think green?
#210 [13:13] <shrekster> it happens every time
#211 [13:14] <|Kiikun|Janus|> because theres someone in here with that as a nickname
#212 [13:14] <|Kiikun|Janus|> and mibbit highlights nicknames
#213 [13:14] <shrekster> oh
#214 [13:14] <shrekster> shrekster
#215 [13:14] <shrekster> got it
#216 [13:14] <shrekster> found think
#217 [13:15] <shrekster> dose anytthing have to do with I am living in a mineshaft?
#218 [13:16] <|Kiikun|Janus|> being in a mineshaft shouldnt matter.
#219 [13:16] <shrekster> can trees naturly grow underground?
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#221 [13:17] <|Kiikun|Janus|> be spawned by the world gen, or just grow after you plant them?
#222 [13:17] <shrekster> apt
#223 [13:17] <shrekster> after
#224 [13:18] <|Kiikun|Janus|> yes, so long as theres space for it.
#225 [13:18] <shrekster> and world gen
#226 [13:18] <|Kiikun|Janus|> not by the world gen though. in a ravine yes.
#227 [13:18] <shrekster> can lava spawn above ground?
#228 [13:18] <|Kiikun|Janus|> yup. lava pools can
#229 [13:19] <shrekster> can it make a forest fire
#230 [13:19] <|Kiikun|Janus|> yup. changes to the burning shoudl prevent it becomign a raging inferno though
#231 [13:20] <shrekster> is it rare to come across inersecting ravines
#232 [13:21] <|Kiikun|Janus|> sorta.
#233 [13:21] <shrekster> what do you mean
#234 [13:22] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ravines are random. you can have areas whith none, or ones heavy in ravines.
#235 [13:22] <shrekster> are there mini ravines?
#236 [13:23] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ive seen short ones. check the ends to see if its just a block or 2 sealed from more
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#238 [13:25] <shrekster> but it is a little crack that is 6 blocks tall and 2-3 blocks wide
#239 [13:27] * |Kiikun|Janus| has to go to work now :/
#239 [13:27] * |Kiikun|Janus| has to go to work now :/
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#245 [14:04] <Calinou> <shrekster> can trees naturly grow underground?
#246 [14:04] <Calinou> yes, but they require space and light.
#247 [14:04] <Calinou> put a torch next to the sapling, put one dirt, put sapling on it
#248 [14:04] <Calinou> oak/birch trees require a 5x5x10 space around the sapling (best)
#249 [14:04] <Calinou> pine trees 7x7x12
#250 [14:04] <Calinou> jungle... possible, but you'll have to dig a very large area
#251 [14:05] <Calinou> intersecting ravines are rare, yeah
#252 [14:05] <Calinou> intersecting ravines are rare, yeah
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#256 [14:19] <flyinggarlic> hi folk, just starting to learn redstone, please tell me, does the simple two repeater pulsing clock still work in current MC ?
#257 [14:20] <sugoi> two repeater pulsing clock? yes it does work
#258 [14:21] <sugoi> i think you can even make a clock with one repeater
#259 [14:21] <flyinggarlic> ok thanks, looking at videos but wasnt sure it was still current
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#261 [14:23] <flyinggarlic> lots of info out there, but still looking for a really simple clear tutorial for simple redstone including the simplest repeater based pulser.
#262 [14:24] <sugoi> flyinggarlic: the basic rule of circuitry is the NOT gate
#263 [14:24] <sugoi> flyinggarlic: combine that with how redstone produces an OR and you can make ALL gates
#264 [14:25] <sugoi> flyinggarlic: clocks/plusars have many forms
#265 [14:25] <sugoi> the 'simplest' is subjective - it depends on your needs
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#267 [14:26] <sugoi> do you want the absolute fastest clock. do you want the cheapest (in redstone cost)? do you want the smallest horizontal? do you want the smallest verticle (implies it is 1x wide)?
#268 [14:26] <sugoi> etc
#269 [14:27] <sugoi> by horizontal i meant 'flat' ... well really i meant, fewest number of blocks
#270 [14:27] <flyinggarlic> thanks sug, well simplest to understand first off would probably be best
#271 [14:27] <flyinggarlic> so probably flat, so its just two dimensional
#272 [14:28] <flyinggarlic> looking at a video but cant get my clock to work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfJRCvF1lrk
#273 [14:28] <flyinggarlic> i have looked at alot of videos about the basic circuit types and i get a bunch of that.
#274 [14:28] <flyinggarlic> i have looked at alot of videos about the basic circuit types and i get a bunch of that.
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#276 [14:30] <sugoi> flyinggarlic: that video is about pulsars (fast)
#277 [14:30] <sugoi> clever idea, he's exploiting that repeaters don't burn out
#278 [14:30] <sugoi> torches do
#279 [14:31] <sugoi> flyinggarlic: a torch will burn out if its state is toggled to many times in less than 1 second
#280 [14:31] <flyinggarlic> can anyone point me to a clear example of a fast pulsar?
#281 [14:31] <sugoi> repeaters do not. a torch can be reignited under some block-update events
#282 [14:31] <sugoi> flyinggarlic: that fast pulsar is great
#283 [14:31] <flyinggarlic> yea i couldnt get it to work though,
#284 [14:32] <sugoi> another type uses torches, i'll get you the link
#285 [14:32] <flyinggarlic> right from the beginning the redstone i lay down doesnt seem to follow the same lines as his example, it seems to connect in different places automaticly
#286 [14:33] <sugoi> put them further apart
#287 [14:33] <sugoi> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_Circuits
#288 [14:33] <sugoi> ^ has a lot of examples
#289 [14:33] <sugoi> search for pulsar, rapid, etc
#290 [14:34] <sugoi> i can't find the one i usually use (based on 4 torches) - it might still be there
#291 [14:34] <flyinggarlic> thanks so much, yea ive been looking at that page
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#293 [14:35] <Guest1> hi
#294 [14:35] <Guest1> hi
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#296 [14:35] <flyinggarlic> ok i need to figure out that scematic ! ...
#297 [14:36] <sugoi> Guest1: howdy
#298 [14:38] <sugoi> flyinggarlic: it'd be fun to walk you through it in game, sadly, i'm at work :(
#299 [14:40] <flyinggarlic> thanks sugoi, trying to figure out the sematics then ill keep looking for a clearer video
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#303 [14:49] <manolo> hey :)
#304 [14:50] <manolo> was wondering why minecraft stalls and almost lock up, flying around the jungle in creative mode?
#305 [14:50] <manolo> locks*
#306 [14:50] <manolo> umm have it set to view distance: tiny and performance vid settings
#307 [14:51] <manolo> i did install InvGET or whatever it's called, didn't realize how unnessecary it was
#308 [14:52] <manolo> geez i need spell check for mirc :(
#309 [14:52] <manolo> anybody home :)
#310 [14:55] <rymate1234> manolo, the jungle is laggy
#311 [14:55] <manolo> aah ok i c
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#313 [14:56] <manolo> i just went as high as i could and flew back to the spawn point in a different area and it's fine now, thanks for the tip, "jungle off limits" LOL ;)
#314 [14:56] <mib_vpwnwu> Hello, how can you get MineCraft for the Xbox360?
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#316 [14:58] <mib_vpwnwu> I go to the store and it says I can't get it...
#317 [14:58] <flyinggarlic> aha! simple small sucsess on the repeater, fyi this video helped me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqr-6bKQtg8
#318 [14:58] <flyinggarlic> mib: not sure ixbov version is available yet
#319 [14:58] <mib_vpwnwu> I says it's out..
#320 [14:58] <flyinggarlic> did u check release date at minecraft.net ?
#321 [14:58] <mib_vpwnwu> it*
#322 [14:59] <mib_vpwnwu> yeah... fall 2011
#323 [14:59] <mib_vpwnwu> or winter,,
#324 [15:00] <flyinggarlic> i think its released may 9th
#325 [15:00] <mib_vpwnwu> it said 2011... from what I know....
#326 [15:01] <sugoi> manolo: no mod is 'necessary' :)
#327 [15:01] <sugoi> flyinggarlic: that was the design i was looking for (for you) in the wiki, glad you found a vid of it
#328 [15:01] <flyinggarlic> no i dont think its out yet, check again
#329 [15:02] <sugoi> i thought there was a beta for gold members
#330 [15:03] <mib_vpwnwu> I have XboxLive and I have a MineCraft Account
#331 [15:04] <mib_vpwnwu> May 9th, 2012.... darn...
#332 [15:05] <mib_vpwnwu> well... ty
#333 [15:05] <sugoi> well 'thought' usually means 'i'm not sure' :)
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#335 [15:19] <oldtopman> manolo: Change the system ti fast.
#336 [15:19] <oldtopman> The main lag is caused by those tree leaves.
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#338 [15:31] <manolo> it's set too fast :) thanks oldtopman
#339 [15:31] <manolo> having a 32bit mc client on a 64bit windows 7 system make a difference?
#340 [15:32] <sugoi> manolo: it would make better use of ram w/ 64bit
#341 [15:32] <manolo> hmm built this nice myan pyramind, could i save that and install 64bit mc?
#342 [15:33] <sugoi> you'd have the same mc
#343 [15:33] <sugoi> only your java version would upgrade
#344 [15:33] <sugoi> and that, is just fine
#345 [15:33] <sugoi> even if you upgrade mc version, mc updates your map was necessary
#346 [15:33] <manolo> aahh kk i get it, thanks sugoi :)
#347 [15:33] <sugoi> you're welcome
#348 [15:33] <manolo> :)
#349 [15:34] <sugoi> "was necessary" => "as** necessary"
#350 [15:34] <sugoi> and, generally s/typos//
#351 [15:35] <manolo> lol thanks :)
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#355 [16:01] <Reutan> Hi guys, I'm trying to set up IndustrialCraft, and ending up with an exception in VerifyError.
#356 [16:02] <sugoi> Reutan: 1. best to ask the mod author
#357 [16:02] <sugoi> 2., busy, help in a sec
#358 [16:05] <Reutan> ...I found the issue.
#359 [16:06] <Reutan> 2/4 mods haven't been updated yet.
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#361 [16:06] <sugoi> ok
#362 [16:07] <CODsniperkid> Hey guys :)
#363 [16:07] <sugoi> that was my guess, usually one of 2 things 1. missing deps, and 2. wrong version
#364 [16:07] <sugoi> CODsniperkid: welcome
#365 [16:07] <CODsniperkid> Any helping today sugoi?
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#367 [16:08] <Reutan> Messed myself up, checked ver on 2 of them, wasn't paying close enough attention.
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#370 [16:09] <RCM2309> Hello, I would like to enquire about Minecraft's updates not downloading - it stops after it hits ~7%
#371 [16:09] <CODsniperkid> Try re-downloading the client.
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#373 [16:09] <sugoi> RCM2309: probably an anti-virus or firewall issue
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#375 [16:10] <sugoi> RCM2309: also, as CODsniperkid is referring to, try deleting your %appdata%/.minecraft folder (backup the save folder first)
#376 [16:10] <RCM2309> I have done this many times
#377 [16:10] <sugoi> that would be the same as a 'fresh' install (mostly)
#378 [16:11] <RCM2309> I have also removed my firewall
#379 [16:11] <sugoi> RCM2309: what about AV then?
#380 [16:11] <RCM2309> AV?
#381 [16:11] <sugoi> antivirus
#382 [16:11] <CODsniperkid> Have you checked your security logs in you're router?
#383 [16:11] <CODsniperkid> your*
#384 [16:11] <RCM2309> I don't run antivirus
#385 [16:11] <sugoi> RCM2309: java 7?
#386 [16:12] <CODsniperkid> RCM, have you checked your router security log?
#387 [16:12] <RCM2309> Yes, I'm using Java 7, I got it with the JDK
#388 [16:12] <RCM2309> Is that going to affect the download?
#389 [16:12] <sugoi> RCM2309: java 7 has been known to causes connection issues with mc. i recommend java 6 (update 31 is now available)
#390 [16:12] <RCM2309> Aha
#391 [16:13] <RCM2309> that may do it
#392 [16:14] <CODsniperkid> Any progress?
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#395 [16:23] <CODsniperkid> @RCM2309 Are you still here? Are you installing Java 6_31?
#396 [16:25] <Steve[MBA]> afternoon folks
#397 [16:25] <CODsniperkid> Hey there Steve!
#398 [16:25] <Steve[MBA]> whats been happening in here?
#399 [16:25] <Steve[MBA]> been a while since I helped out a bit
#400 [16:26] <CODsniperkid> Sugoi and I were helping a user, but he hasn't reported back if the java installation helped.
#401 [16:26] <Steve[MBA]> aaah
#402 [16:26] <Steve[MBA]> wintel install im assuming?
#403 [16:29] <CODsniperkid> No. It's just Java 6_31.
#404 [16:30] <Steve[MBA]> ill take that as "yes windows" :-p
#405 [16:30] <CODsniperkid> :P
#406 [16:30] <CODsniperkid> Yeah.
#407 [16:30] <Steve[MBA]> I'm more of a server guy ;)
#408 [16:33] <CODsniperkid> Same Steve. Bukkit is my thing. I use to be an avid forumer at the Bukkit support forums on Bukkit.org.
#409 [16:33] <sugoi> back when he was just a kid
#410 [16:33] <CODsniperkid> :P
#411 [16:33] <CODsniperkid> Yeah, I need a different name. I'm really 16 irl.
#412 [16:34] <clarjon1> still a kid ;)
#413 [16:34] <Steve[MBA]> ery much still a kid
#414 [16:34] <Steve[MBA]> *very
#415 [16:34] <CODsniperkid> That's up to interpretation. ;)
#416 [16:34] <sugoi> you'll still be a kid when you're half my age
#417 [16:34] <Steve[MBA]> lol
#418 [16:34] <manolo> hey :) where can i find world seeds for 1.2.4?
#419 [16:34] <sugoi> manolo: 0
#420 [16:34] <CODsniperkid> Google would be your best option.
#421 [16:35] <CODsniperkid> Just search for seeds.
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#423 [16:35] <Steve[MBA]> actually....i need to check up on the resevouior project for spout
#424 [16:35] <manolo> yah i did the google thing, i thought maybe there was a pinacle site that everyone concidered awesome? ;)
#425 [16:35] <CODsniperkid> Wait a second, you can't use seeds anymore.
#426 [16:35] <manolo> yes you can
#427 [16:36] <sugoi> CODsniperkid: they just aren't displayed to the users anymore
#428 [16:36] <CODsniperkid> Sorry. Wrong way of phrasing that. It doesn't appear in the F3.
#429 [16:36] <manolo> um f3?
#430 [16:36] <sugoi> manolo: debug view
#431 [16:36] <manolo> k
#432 [16:36] <manolo> ty
#433 [16:37] <manolo> seedscope? er i think it's called
#434 [16:37] <manolo> brb google time ;)
#435 [16:38] <manolo> interesting i didn't know you could do that :)
#436 [16:38] <Reutan> Is there a way to downgrade to 1.2.3?
#437 [16:38] <sugoi> Reutan: there are 2.5 ways
#438 [16:38] <CODsniperkid> Yes, but you would have to find the version file. Be careful when searching
#439 [16:39] <CODsniperkid> Some are viruses.
#440 [16:39] <sugoi> i'd highly recommend not searching ... as those links would be breaking the license
#441 [16:40] <sugoi> Reutan: the .5 method(s) are with mcpatcher or backups (mcpatcher keeps a backup of the version you patched , it'll be called minecraft-1.2.3.jar, in the bin folder)
#442 [16:40] <sugoi> the 2 more official methods are:
#443 [16:40] <RCM2309> last time I used mc patcher... beta 1.6
#444 [16:40] <RCM2309> been a long time since I played minecraft on PC
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#446 [16:41] <sugoi> RCM2309: zug, looking for the name of that darn tool!
#447 [16:42] <RCM2309> MCNostalgia?
#448 [16:42] <CODsniperkid> Nostalgia?
#449 [16:42] <CODsniperkid> It's a tool for Minecraft that allows you to easily date back to most if not all minecraft versions. This includes a few indev versions.
#450 [16:42] <sugoi> MCNostalgia
#451 [16:43] <sugoi> yeah
#452 [16:43] <RCM2309> you can't use indev
#453 [16:43] <RCM2309> without hacking your internet
#454 [16:43] <sugoi> also, assets.minecraft.net/<major><minor>w<snapshot>a/minecraft.jar
#455 [16:44] <sugoi> e.g.: assets.minecraft.net/11w50a/minecraft.jar
#456 [16:44] <sugoi> major version numbers follow the release naming, 11=1.1, 12=1.2, etc
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#458 [16:47] <Reutan> I found 08a...but I'm having trouble finding what corresponds to .3
#459 [16:48] <sugoi> i've not used that method, i know some buidls aren't there
#460 [16:48] <sugoi> i think they don't include the 'release' builds
#461 [16:49] <CODsniperkid> Correct.
#462 [16:49] <sugoi> does mcnostalgia not work for you?
#463 [16:49] <CODsniperkid> Who?
#464 [16:49] <Reutan> Nostalgia looks like it doesn't go past release.
#465 [16:49] <sugoi> so wouldn't that be all of them? assets for dev builds, mcnostolgia for release?
#466 [16:49] <sugoi> what's left? :)
#467 [16:50] <sugoi> note, i'm just the messenger, i don't use either method, i keep my own backups
#468 [16:50] <Reutan> I mean, past the "release". 1.0.0
#469 [16:50] <Reutan> As in, MCNostalgia goes up to B1.9Pre4.
#470 [16:50] <sugoi> whaa?
#471 [16:50] <sugoi> i am surprised at that
#472 [16:51] <Reutan> Oh, found the new thread.
#473 [16:51] <CODsniperkid> Actually, MCNostalgia's original developer quit making it. Here is the new MCNostalgia 2.0
#474 [16:51] <CODsniperkid> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-211-now-works-with-124/
#475 [16:52] <RCM2309> hm
#476 [16:52] <RCM2309> Guys, why do all my maps need to be converted?
#477 [16:52] <RCM2309> I did that back in Beta 1.3
#478 [16:52] <CODsniperkid> The new world type is "Anvil"
#479 [16:52] <CODsniperkid> They all must be converted.
#480 [16:52] <RCM2309> oh, a new map type?
#481 [16:53] <RCM2309> how much more will it fry my CPU>
#482 [16:53] <CODsniperkid> Not a map type. It's just the name of their world generator.
#483 [16:53] <CODsniperkid> It won't.
#484 [16:53] <RCM2309> hm
#485 [16:53] <RCM2309> ok
#486 [16:54] <sugoi> fry?
#487 [16:54] <CODsniperkid> http://www.mojang.com/2012/02/new-minecraft-map-format-anvil/
#488 [16:54] <sugoi> well it's going to run your cpu at 100% during the conversion (well, one core)
#489 [16:54] <sugoi> but when it's done, it actually has a lot of perf improvements (even tho there is more data to communicate)
#490 [16:54] <RCM2309> ]aha
#491 [16:55] <RCM2309> I know that the one added in 1.3 was more intensive
#492 [16:55] <CODsniperkid> Anvil was just the name given to the new Minecraft Map format. Things have been added to Anvil to make loading faster and running more efficient.
#493 [16:55] <Steve[MBA]> RCM2309: i ran into the same issue as well
#494 [16:55] <Steve[MBA]> by 1.4 mostly was sorted out though
#495 [16:56] <RCM2309> woah
#496 [16:56] <RCM2309> no charts on the Debug screen :D
#497 [16:56] <Steve[MBA]> oldskool man
#498 [16:57] <Steve[MBA]> i couldnt have asked for better cigar weather
#499 [16:59] <RCM2309> woah
#500 [16:59] <RCM2309> vanilla pistons?
#501 [16:59] <CODsniperkid> Those have been there since 1.8.1 I believe.
#502 [16:59] <CODsniperkid> The adventure update.
#503 [17:00] <RCM2309> haven't played since 1.6 or 1.7
#504 [17:00] <CODsniperkid> ;)
#505 [17:00] <RCM2309> woah
#506 [17:00] <RCM2309> I just realised
#507 [17:00] <RCM2309> I'm playing the world
#508 [17:00] <RCM2309> I made when I got this computer
#509 [17:01] <RCM2309> nostaglia...
#510 [17:01] <Steve[MBA]> lol
#511 [17:01] <RCM2309> Wait
#512 [17:02] <RCM2309> How do I change render distance?
#513 [17:02] <RCM2309> lol
#514 [17:02] <RCM2309> I must sound like a huge noob
#515 [17:02] <Steve[MBA]> "f"
#516 [17:02] <RCM2309> I tried that
#517 [17:02] <CODsniperkid> Esc, Video Options, Render Distance.
#518 [17:02] <RCM2309> no longer works :(
#519 [17:02] <CODsniperkid> Fog toggle is gone in the released minecraft.
#520 [17:02] <Steve[MBA]> heh
#521 [17:02] <RCM2309> oh
#522 [17:02] <Steve[MBA]> CODsniperkid: shows what I know :-p
#523 [17:03] <RCM2309> ffs blizz
#524 [17:03] <Steve[MBA]> RCM2309: you can always use Spout to increase the render distance
#525 [17:03] <RCM2309> I don't want to
#526 [17:03] <RCM2309> lol
#527 [17:03] <RCM2309> my computer sucks
#528 [17:03] <Steve[MBA]> picky picky
#529 [17:03] <Steve[MBA]> :-p
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#531 [17:03] <RCM2309> only getting 30 fps
#532 [17:04] <Steve[MBA]> 30tps is all ya need
#533 [17:04] <Steve[MBA]> *30fps
#534 [17:05] <RCM2309> my friends complain when they drop to 60 :(
#535 [17:08] <Steve[MBA]> anything >30fps is really just buffer
#536 [17:10] <Steve[MBA]> i always find it funny that people bitch and moan about framerate. in all honesty you cant go higher than the refresh of your display anyway
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#538 [17:12] <Main> Hello everyone!
#539 [17:12] <CODsniperkid> Hello Main!
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#541 [17:12] <Schmidty> there we go a real name
#542 [17:13] <Schmidty> Hi CODsniperkid
#543 [17:13] <CODsniperkid> :)
#544 [17:13] <CODsniperkid> Hi Schmidty :)
#545 [17:13] <Schmidty> does anyone know if there is a website that can test if my server is reachable from outside mynetwork?
#546 [17:13] <CODsniperkid> Right here!
#547 [17:13] <CODsniperkid> !check relentless.us
#548 [17:14] <CODsniperkid> Schmidty, if you are looking for a port checker, http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
#549 [17:14] <Schmidty> really
#550 [17:14] <Schmidty> ooo cool
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#552 [17:15] <Steve[MBA]> that'll work
#553 [17:15] <CODsniperkid> Anything else for today Schmidty?
#554 [17:15] <Steve[MBA]> awww....it doesnt do a banner grab
#555 [17:15] <Schmidty> Well the port is open which is good news
#556 [17:16] <Schmidty> Thank you CODsniperkid
#557 [17:16] <CODsniperkid> No problem!
#558 [17:20] <Steve[MBA]> CODsniperkid: I would rather prefer http://nmap-online.com/
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#560 [17:21] <gsand> hello
#561 [17:21] <Steve[MBA]> gsand: hello to you too
#562 [17:21] <Steve[MBA]> gsand: hello to you too
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#565 [17:23] <CODsniperkid> Welcome Thols! Do you have a question about minecraft?
#566 [17:25] <Thols> Woaw
#567 [17:25] <Thols> Hum no x)
#568 [17:26] <CODsniperkid> Ok. Have a great time :)
#569 [17:26] <Thols> But thanks :)
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#571 [17:26] <Thols> You too !
#572 [17:26] <Thols> You too !
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#576 [17:31] <CODsniperkid> Hello Ninjakirby!
#577 [17:31] <NinjaKirby> Hey again COD
#578 [17:32] <rymate1234> hey
#579 [17:32] <CODsniperkid> Hey rymate1234!
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#586 [17:55] <thomas_andrews> hello all, I cannot seem to connect to minecraft.net currently. I was just doing a fresh install on my new computer, and alas, it won't download
#587 [17:56] <CODsniperkid> Have you checked your security logs in your AV software?
#588 [17:56] <thomas_andrews> I can do that...one moment
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#590 [17:59] <thomas_andrews> bingo...firewall was blocking it
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#592 [17:59] <CODsniperkid> :)
#593 [17:59] <thomas_andrews> thanks so much
#594 [17:59] <CODsniperkid> No problem! Have a nice day!
#595 [17:59] <thomas_andrews> you too
#596 [18:01] <mickster04> that has to be the most comon issue?
#597 [18:01] <CODsniperkid> Probably.
#598 [18:01] <mickster04> common*
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#602 [18:24] <CODsniperkid> Bye guys
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#609 [19:22] <NinjaKirby> Hey COD, you abouts?
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#611 [19:27] <ValooWart> Hi
#612 [19:28] <ValooWart> I have a problem, I can't remember my password, and my mail adress was closed ! So, I can't find my password !
#613 [19:28] <ValooWart> Can you help me ?
#614 [19:28] <WugBot> ValooWart: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#615 [19:29] <ValooWart> I would like change my email adress to take my pswword !
#616 [19:30] <ValooWart> But I can't do it ! I have need some help from Minecraft staff !
#617 [19:30] <NinjaKirby> I don't think there is any official employee aiding here, so you may need to go via the Mojang Help/Contact Us page
#618 [19:31] <NinjaKirby> This is a purely "user-run help desk" afaik
#619 [19:31] <ValooWart> I can find it on Minecraft.net ?
#620 [19:31] <DiskDaemon> I'll get the link or you
#621 [19:31] <ValooWart> Thanks
#622 [19:31] <NinjaKirby> *For you :3
#623 [19:31] <ValooWart> ^^
#624 [19:32] <NinjaKirby> I'll get the link, OR YOU, take you away to somewhere dark.
#625 [19:32] <ValooWart> Where is the link ? (Sorry, I'm bad ^^)
#626 [19:32] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#627 [19:32] <NinjaKirby> DiskDaemon... there it is ^^
#628 [19:32] <ValooWart> thank you very much
#629 [19:33] <NinjaKirby> Oh wow, an article specifically for it :O
#630 [19:33] <DiskDaemon> Access to that link was weasily found from help.mojang.com
#631 [19:33] <DiskDaemon> which is accessed from the HELP link on minecraft.net
#632 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> minecraft.net -> help -> account troubleshooting -> email has changed
#633 [19:34] <ValooWart> 'kay
#634 [19:34] <ValooWart> But this system need password... and I haven't my password :s
#635 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> Please read the damned thing
#636 [19:35] <ValooWart> (I'm bad in english ^^)
#637 [19:35] <DiskDaemon> It has a piece that relates to " if for some reason you do not have access to your original account"
#638 [19:35] <DiskDaemon> Do you understand what that means?
#639 [19:35] <NinjaKirby> ^^;; Almost feels like Valoo is a "mystery shopper" of sorts
#640 [19:36] <ValooWart> Okay
#641 [19:36] <ValooWart> I think !
#642 [19:36] <ValooWart> I will send a message to Mojang !
#643 [19:36] <ValooWart> I have find the page ^^
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#650 [19:41] <NinjaKirby> Awesome work DiskDaemon, I think it's time for a Cuppa
#651 [19:41] <DiskDaemon> Indeed, lunch for this boy here :)
#652 [19:41] <NinjaKirby> Nom nom nom, what's on the menu for ya?
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#654 [19:42] <DiskDaemon> just some sandwiches, with the last of Marmite and other stuff
#655 [19:42] <NinjaKirby> Velly nice :3
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#659 [20:34] <Nathan2055> Anybody here?
#660 [20:34] <DiskDaemon> sure
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#662 [20:34] <Nathan2055> Howdy.
#663 [20:35] <Nathan2055> As an utterly off-topic question, what IRC client do you use?
#664 [20:35] <DiskDaemon> mIRC
#665 [20:35] <Nathan2055> Ah.
#666 [20:35] <fizyplankton> dows anyone know if 32bit linux random crashes have been fixed since 1.7.3 beta?
#667 [20:35] <Nathan2055> I'm trying to decide which one to get.
#668 [20:35] <fizyplankton> i use irssi
#669 [20:36] <Nathan2055> fizyplankton: Beta 1.7.3 is a VERY old version.
#670 [20:36] <Nathan2055> Before I came onboard the MC bandwagon, at least.
#671 [20:36] <fizyplankton> Nathan2055: yeah. i havent played minecraft in forever. i got sick and tired of the crashes every 2 seconds
#672 [20:36] <DiskDaemon> I will gladly switch from mIRC when a signifantly better one comes along
#673 [20:36] <Nathan2055> There have been many bugfixes since then. It should work.
#674 [20:37] <Nathan2055> fizyplankton: What's your MC username?
#675 [20:38] <fizyplankton> Nathan2055: i have looked at the change list, and it said for one of the updates that memory leaks in 23bit linux were common (as if they havent been for years). but it never said in the subsequant ones that it was fixed, and i have serious doubts that notch fixed it
#676 [20:38] <fizyplankton> Nathan2055: fizyplankton
#677 [20:39] <Nathan2055> !check fizyplankton
#678 [20:39] <Nathan2055> Um...
#679 [20:39] <Nathan2055> Wrong one.
#680 [20:39] <Nathan2055> !paid fizyplankton
#681 [20:40] <Nathan2055> There we are.
#682 [20:40] <Nathan2055> :download
#683 [20:40] <fizyplankton> lol i havent started my server up in forever
#684 [20:40] <Nathan2055> :cmd
#685 [20:40] <WugBot> cmd: A list of known commands that are available can be found at http://pastebin.com/4GSgYMYK This list is incomplete and subject to change.
#686 [20:40] <fizyplankton> i dont even remember where its folder is
#687 [20:40] <Nathan2055> :jardownload
#688 [20:40] <WugBot> jardownload: If you are having problems getting the normal Minecraft application to open you can run the java file (jar) itself. The instructions can be found at http://paste.ubuntu.com/877709/ courtesy of GreyVulpine.
#689 [20:40] <Nathan2055> Whoops.
#690 [20:40] <fizyplankton> same issue. i tried that 6 months ago
#691 [20:40] <Nathan2055> Okay, this is the right one,
#692 [20:41] <Nathan2055> :getminecraft
#693 [20:41] <WugBot> getminecraft: Minecraft costs $26.90/€19.95/£17.21 and can be purchased at http://www.minecraft.net/ then downloaded at http://www.minecraft.net/download
#694 [20:41] <mickster04> hey, does minecraft work on a spaberry pi?
#695 [20:41] <Nathan2055> fizyplankton: Go to the download link and follow the Linux instructions.
#696 [20:41] <mickster04> raspberry*
#697 [20:42] <Nathan2055> mickster04: Are you joking?
#698 [20:42] <fizyplankton> i already have minecraft. i just havent updated because i have 6 months of updates to read about. i dont know what any of the new updates are, so i dont want to get lost in the new version
#699 [20:42] <mickster04> Nathan2055: maybe a really low setting version :p
#700 [20:42] <DiskDaemon> The updates are shown here http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#701 [20:42] <fizyplankton> i know. theres just a whole ton of them
#702 [20:42] <mickster04> Nathan2055: it can decode 1080 video, so it is at least partially capable
#703 [20:42] <Nathan2055> DiskDaemon: Debating on whether to grab XChat-WDK
#704 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients
#705 [20:44] <fizyplankton> oh hell ill try updating. i already added a copy of .minecraft to my extensive collection of .minecraft backups
#706 [20:44] <fizyplankton> jesus christ the new version looks different.
#707 [20:45] <Nathan2055> It is.
#708 [20:45] <Nathan2055> 1.8 updated just about everything. That plus 1.0 through 1.2 and you have a significantly different game.
#709 [20:45] <fizyplankton> yeah i can tell
#710 [20:46] <Nathan2055> DiskDaemon: Drat. Looks like my channel was hacked.
#711 [20:47] <Nathan2055> And it's only been up a day :P
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#713 [20:53] <Flametail> Been trying to get a crash report for a saving chunks crash. Using the command from the wiki on windows.
#714 [20:53] <Flametail> This is what I get. Error: Could not find or load main class C:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\lwjgl.jar
#715 [20:53] <Flametail> So, any idea why the crash report command doesnt work?
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#721 [21:59] <seddy> .j #minecraft
#722 [21:59] <seddy> nice seddy
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#731 [22:52] <hatman> Hello
#732 [22:52] <Wug> hello
#733 [22:52] <hatman> I need help connecting to an especific server.
#734 [22:53] <seddy> grab their ip
#735 [22:53] <seddy> and port
#736 [22:53] <hatman> ok
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#738 [22:53] <hatman> A classic server btw
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#740 [22:53] <hatman> I can get you the url.
#741 [22:54] <Wug> hatman: if you cant connect to it then its possible the server is offline
#742 [22:54] <hatman> Should I?
#743 [22:54] <hatman> It's online.
#744 [22:54] <Wug> how sure are you
#745 [22:54] <Magiobiwan> So Wug, what Distro of Linux do you recommend for a Minecraft server?
#746 [22:54] <hatman> Many people can connect to it.
#747 [22:54] <Magiobiwan> What's the IP?
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#749 [22:54] <Wug> Magiobiwan: I'd recommend ubuntu, but I'm sure that its something of a religious issue
#750 [22:54] <hatman> it's classic server
#751 [22:55] <Magiobiwan> Okay.
#752 [22:55] <Magiobiwan> Oh. I don't think the bits can check classics
#753 [22:55] <Magiobiwan> Also, is 2 gigs of RAM enough for 15 people?
#754 [22:55] <hatman> Wug
#755 [22:56] <Wug> Magiobiwan: 2GB for 15 is plenty
#756 [22:56] <hatman> The server has many people on it.
#757 [22:56] <Wug> hatman: it might be your firewall then
#758 [22:56] <hatman> I even communicate with them on IRC.
#759 [22:56] <hatman> They say they are in.
#760 [22:56] <Magiobiwan> You're looking at the figure on the Minecraft page
#761 [22:56] <Magiobiwan> Aren't you?
#762 [22:56] <hatman> But I can connect to other.
#763 [22:56] <Magiobiwan> That's rarely updated.
#764 [22:57] <magicman> i am having a problem with the sound. it wont work when i am signed in . i put the sound to 100% , can anyone help?
#765 [22:57] <Wug> hatman: classic issues are much more difficult to solve
#766 [22:57] <Wug> are you getting a specific error message
#767 [22:57] <hatman> That the server is down. But I know it's not because other people tell me they are in.
#768 [22:58] <hatman> I can give you the url. Is that helpful?
#769 [22:59] <Wug> hatman: are you absolutely sure you have the right url?
#770 [22:59] <hatman> I have it.
#771 [22:59] <hatman> Not bookmarked
#772 [22:59] <Wug> they change sometimes
#773 [22:59] <hatman> I have the latest I found on the list.
#774 [23:00] <hatman> I can't lose going to this server.
#775 [23:00] <hatman> That server is very special to me.
#776 [23:01] <Wug> its probably just a temporary issue, whatever it is
#777 [23:01] <hatman> Yeah for 3 months.
#778 [23:02] <Wug> send me the link and ill see if I can connect
#779 [23:02] <hatman> ok
#780 [23:02] <hatman> http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play/d541246e2d60025c59dc60ef008c7edb
#781 [23:02] <Wug> .. I apparently cant because of derped java
#782 [23:02] <magicman> my sound on the full version and classic version wont work. am i doing something wrong?
#783 [23:03] <Wug> in retrospect I havent been able to make classic work for a while
#784 [23:03] <Wug> magicman: the volumes are stuck at 0, right?
#785 [23:03] <magicman> i turned it on but i dont hear nothing
#786 [23:04] <Wug> your computer volume isnt muted or anything is it
#787 [23:04] <magicman> nope
#788 [23:04] <Wug> can you check if your sound drivers are up to daet
#789 [23:04] <Wug> date*
#790 [23:04] <hatman> My firewall could not be blocking an especific server could it?
#791 [23:05] <Wug> hatman: its remotely possible, but rather unlikely
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#793 [23:05] <Wug> Magiobiwan: are you a windows user
#794 [23:05] <Magiobiwan> Yes.
#795 [23:05] <Wug> can you check if that classic link works
#796 [23:05] <seddy> link works
#797 [23:05] <Magiobiwan> Umm. Not at my computer.
#798 [23:05] <seddy> i just connected
#799 [23:05] <seddy> from win7 machine
#800 [23:05] <Magiobiwan> I use XP
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#802 [23:06] <magicman> the only sound not working is the minecraft :(
#803 [23:06] <Wug> magicman: thats why I think its a driver issue
#804 [23:06] <Magiobiwan> I'll go check.
#805 [23:06] <seddy> uninstall reinstall java
#806 [23:06] <seddy> to check drivers isues
#807 [23:06] <hatman> not necesary
#808 [23:06] <Wug> do you know how to update your driver
#809 [23:06] <hatman> other servers work
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#811 [23:06] <magicman> no i dont know
#812 [23:07] <Wug> hatman: there is a folder you can delete which will cause the game to be redownloaded
#813 [23:07] <Wug> you might try that
#814 [23:07] <Wug> before you do though
#815 [23:07] <hatman> ok brb
#816 [23:07] <oldtopman> Wug: Hey, just to say that my sound is glitchy for me on beta.
#817 [23:07] <muraii> Hi there. I realize only too late that my 1.2.4 Minecraft client can't talk to my 1.1 CraftBukkit server. Is there a way to download an older version of the Minecraft client?
#818 [23:07] <oldtopman> Haven't tried a reset though.
#819 [23:07] <Wug> do you have any other computers, and does it work on those?
#820 [23:07] <oldtopman> muraii: No.
#821 [23:07] <hatman> is it in "Roaming"?
#822 [23:07] <Wug> hatman: no, its somewhere else
#823 [23:07] <Wug> lemme look up the location
#824 [23:08] <seddy> cancel
#825 [23:08] <hatman> Where?
#826 [23:08] <hatman> ok
#827 [23:08] <seddy> server is messed up
#828 [23:08] <seddy> i have no sound
#829 [23:08] <magicman> my sound is glitchy also
#830 [23:08] <muraii> oldtopman: Hmm. Okay. Just have to wait for Bukkit team to catch up, yes?
#831 [23:08] <oldtopman> muraii: Uep.
#832 [23:08] <muraii> Danke.
#833 [23:08] <seddy> the server has been modded to a fashion thats they exluded sfx :)
#834 [23:08] <Magiobiwan> It woeks via WoM
#835 [23:08] <Wug> hatman: C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\
#836 [23:08] <Wug> delete minecraft.net
#837 [23:08] <hatman> ok
#838 [23:09] <Magiobiwan> Trying it in browser redirects me to the minecraft.net homepage
#839 [23:09] <Wug> Magiobiwan: does sound work in single player
#840 [23:09] <Wug> magicman: *
#841 [23:09] <seddy> edit: i have some sound effects and not others
#842 [23:10] <Magiobiwan> Silly wug and your tab autocorrect.
#843 [23:10] <seddy> wug you saying you have full sounds connected to that server?
#844 [23:10] <magicman> what?
#845 [23:10] <seddy> cause i donnot
#846 [23:10] * Wug SANICK Magiobiwan dorp
#846 [23:10] <Wug> seddy: I can't use classic
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#848 [23:10] <magicman> oh no it doesn work in single player
#849 [23:10] <seddy> im on my vm sandbox machine
#850 [23:10] <Wug> its a long standing linux browser java plugin issue
#851 [23:10] <Wug> its a long standing linux browser java plugin issue
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#853 [23:10] <seddy> and im getting strange sound issues
#854 [23:10] <Magiobiwan> Classic has no sound
#855 [23:10] <seddy> i get the jump sound effect
#856 [23:10] <Wug> seddy: I get blipping and other weird artifacts sometimes, is that what you're getting
#857 [23:11] <magicman> dosent*
#858 [23:11] <seddy> yes
#859 [23:11] <seddy> wug
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#861 [23:11] <Wug> I can make it go away temporarily by changing the audio device
#862 [23:11] <seddy> Wug: gonna try via linux box running ubuntu
#863 [23:11] <Wug> when I change it back it will no longer happen until I restart it
#864 [23:11] <Wug> (this is on ubuntu)
#865 [23:11] <seddy> confirmed on wug
#866 [23:11] <seddy> getting the same issue
#867 [23:11] <Wug> I'm not sure why it happens but I'm glad its not just me
#868 [23:12] <Wug> its probably just java sucking
#869 [23:12] <seddy> running newest ubuntu and java
#870 [23:12] <seddy> newest lol what a skiddie i am, 11.10
#871 [23:12] <Wug> magicman: ok, open the device manager
#872 [23:12] <hatman> And I still get an error message.
#873 [23:13] <Wug> hatman: can you try it on another computer
#874 [23:13] <seddy> do what wug says
#875 [23:13] <magicman> how do i open device manager
#876 [23:13] <seddy> control panel device manager
#877 [23:13] <hatman> I did
#878 [23:13] <magicman> is it task manager?
#879 [23:13] <Wug> magicman: start menu, right click my computer -> properties
#880 [23:13] <Wug> its an option in the upper left
#881 [23:13] <hatman> Wug: I did try it on another.
#882 [23:13] <seddy> control panel then hardware and sound
#883 [23:13] <seddy> my devices
#884 [23:13] <Wug> hatman: does it work
#885 [23:14] <hatman> no
#886 [23:14] <seddy> hmm
#887 [23:14] <Wug> thats really odd
#888 [23:14] <seddy> hat
#889 [23:14] <Wug> call your isp and complain to them
#890 [23:14] <seddy> i just connect from 2 different pc's
#891 [23:14] <hatman> how?
#892 [23:14] <seddy> 1 windows 7 other linux
#893 [23:14] <seddy> and both worked
#894 [23:14] <seddy> how?
#895 [23:14] <magicman> ok i got the device manager up
#896 [23:14] <Wug> hatman: :P pick up a phone
#897 [23:14] <seddy> i connected to them
#898 [23:14] <Wug> dial their support line
#899 [23:14] <seddy> wug you deserve ops
#900 [23:14] <hatman> isp
#901 [23:14] <seddy> my god
#902 [23:15] <Wug> tell them "I'm having trouble accessing a server"
#903 [23:15] <Wug> etc et
#904 [23:15] <Wug> seddy: I have them
#905 [23:15] <Wug> trolololo
#906 [23:15] <hatman> Oh right
#907 [23:15] <Wug> magicman: ok, there should be a list of devices
#908 [23:15] <Wug> search for one labeled audio devices
#909 [23:15] <seddy> Wug: HA HA
#910 [23:15] <seddy> ;)
#911 [23:15] <hatman> ok
#912 [23:15] <hatman> I'll be back.
#913 [23:16] <Wug> magicman: click the plus to expand the options
#914 [23:16] <seddy> wug up to date on sec blogs and news ?
#915 [23:16] <Wug> seddy: sorta kinda
#916 [23:16] <seddy> see the recent leak of zeus src
#917 [23:16] <seddy> newest ver
#918 [23:16] <Wug> I keep a finger on the pulse of the internet
#919 [23:17] <seddy> i just compiled it
#920 [23:17] <seddy> needed just a little bit of knowledge
#921 [23:17] <seddy> im not a c coder but i got it
#922 [23:17] <seddy> its nasty
#923 [23:17] <seddy> were gonna see 500 moded versions of the bot in a week or so
#924 [23:17] <magicman> i cant find an audio devices but there is a sound,video and game controller tab
#925 [23:18] <seddy> that would be your onboard video and sound card
#926 [23:18] <Wug> magicman: its probably that one
#927 [23:19] <magicman> ok what is the next tab i need after i expand it
#928 [23:19] <Wug> magicman: can you list the names of the items in the list
#929 [23:20] <seddy> magic on the left
#930 [23:20] <seddy> youl have to click "device manager"
#931 [23:21] <seddy> cancel that
#932 [23:21] <seddy> just got to my windows machine, control panel, hardware and sound, device manager upper right
#933 [23:22] <seddy> lets go from there to reinstall your drivers
#934 [23:22] <magicman> bluetooth hands free audio, intel display audio, realtek high definition audio. those are the choices under the sound tab
#935 [23:22] <magicman> i found an uptate drive option ill try that
#936 [23:23] <magicman> it said it was already up to date
#937 [23:23] <magicman> so should i uninstall it?
#938 [23:26] <Wug> magicman: its probably the realtek HD audio option
#939 [23:26] <Wug> if you can try to update that, see if that works
#940 [23:26] <magicman> ok
#941 [23:26] <Wug> if it doesnt you will probably need to go to your computer manufacturers website and download a newer version
#942 [23:27] <magicman> it says its up to date
#943 [23:30] <magicman> the sound originally stopped working when i was ading an audio mod. i put in a new .minecraft folder but it didnt solve the problem.
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#946 [23:34] <magicman> i lost connection
#947 [23:34] <magicman> i lost connection
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#951 [23:39] <magicman> wub i got it ty for the help