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#2 [00:01] <Mantis2600> Yeah, nothing new in the FAQ, and I didn't see anything relevant in the thread when I looked earlier.
#3 [00:01] <Mantis2600> THe program seems to be working fine, but the maps aren't useful
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#6 [00:03] <almostroot> Mantis2600: The main post has decently detailed troubleshooting steps.
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#9 [00:03] <MrEpicGoat_> Can someone try connecting? Just portforwarded
#10 [00:03] <MrEpicGoat_> goatcraft.no-ip.org
#11 [00:03] <almostroot> !check goatcraft.no-ip.org
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#13 [00:04] <MrEpicGoat_> ehehe thanks
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#15 [00:05] <Eddie> hey Pepper
#16 [00:05] <Mantis2600> Yeah nothing in there is changing anything. I think it's working as intended, but my maps don't look anything like anyone elses
#17 [00:05] <Eddie> Joe Biden thanks you
#18 [00:05] <Pepper> Cool
#19 [00:05] <Pepper> He seems nice enough
#20 [00:06] <Mantis2600> Its not crashing, it's just rendering a map that's not really much of a map
#21 [00:06] <almostroot> Mantis2600: Is everything set to show all? Layers and blocks?
#22 [00:06] <Mantis2600> yep
#23 [00:07] <Mantis2600> style is normal
#24 [00:07] <Mantis2600> no special settings
#25 [00:07] <almostroot> Mantis2600: No error messages in the log?
#26 [00:07] <Mantis2600> nope
#27 [00:08] <Mantis2600> I mean, this is what it spits out
#28 [00:08] <Mantis2600> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/641890/Map.png
#29 [00:09] <Mantis2600> Which is clearly a map, but it doesn't look like anything anyones posted in the thread or in tutorials
#30 [00:09] <almostroot> Mantis2600: Looks like the images it uses to represent the blocks are missing.
#31 [00:09] <Mantis2600> that would make sense
#32 [00:09] <almostroot> Mantis2600: Are all files in the same directory?
#33 [00:10] <Mantis2600> I think so? Its in the same folder as my mc exe
#34 [00:10] <almostroot> Mantis2600: Have you tried deleting it and extracting a clean copy? Or if that fails, downloading a fresh copy.
#35 [00:10] <Mantis2600> both of those, yes
#36 [00:11] <almostroot> Mantis2600: If you have gone through all the troubleshooting steps in the post, it may be an issue with the program. Step 10 covers how to report a bug.
#37 [00:11] <Mantis2600> ok
#38 [00:13] <Mantis2600> oh well
#39 [00:13] <Mantis2600> thanks almos
#40 [00:15] <MrEpicGoat_> how do I xray? I want to test an anti x-ray plugin I just installed
#41 [00:15] <MrEpicGoat_> nvm google answered me <3
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#43 [00:22] <MrEpicGoat_> omfg fail
#44 [00:22] <MrEpicGoat_> wrong channel
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#57 [01:43] <cardcha> hi
#58 [01:43] <TWSS> LOLOLOL That's what she said LOLOLOLOL
#59 [01:43] <cardcha> WTF
#60 [01:43] <TWSS> LOLOLOL That's what she said LOLOLOLOL
#61 [01:44] <Pepper> Hmmm
#62 [01:44] <TWSS> LOLOLOL That's what she said LOLOLOLOL
#63 [01:44] <cardcha> Is anybody there
#64 [01:44] <TWSS> LOLOLOL That's what she said LOLOLOLOL
#65 [01:45] <Pepper> Hey Wug
#66 [01:45] <cardcha> stalking bot
#67 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> !k twss
#68 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> !k twss
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#70 [01:45] <Pepper> Or Vulpine :D
#71 [01:45] <cardcha> wtf happened there
#72 [01:45] <Wug> cardcha: thats your bot
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#75 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> You tell me
#76 [01:45] <cardcha> kk\
#77 [01:45] <cardcha> I wanted to test it
#78 [01:45] <Pepper> -.-
#79 [01:46] <cardcha> I wrote it in python do you like it?
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#82 [01:47] <Wug> goddamnit the channel rules are all offline
#83 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> Blarg?
#84 [01:47] <Wug> because allgamer is derped and whatall
#85 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> Oh right
#86 [01:48] <AG_Clinton> What?
#87 [01:48] <Wug> AG_Clinton: try the rules link
#88 [01:48] <Wug> ;long http://is.gd/G3zPKi
#89 [01:48] <WugBot> http://is.gd/G3zPKi --> http://help.mojang.com/
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#91 [01:48] <Wug> that is not rules
#92 [01:48] <Wug> ;long http://is.gd/zB1w9I
#93 [01:48] <WugBot> http://is.gd/zB1w9I --> http://minecraftirc.net/thread-2.html
#94 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> http://minecraftirc.net/thread-2.html works for me
#95 [01:49] <Wug> huh
#96 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> I'm looking at the rules right now
#97 [01:49] <Wug> I get nothin
#98 [01:49] <Wug> ;dns minecraftirc.net
#99 [01:49] <WugBot> 173.245.61.23
#100 [01:50] <Wug> now it works
#101 [01:50] <Wug> probably was still on the old dns
#102 [01:51] <Wug> ;tell cardcha read the channel rules: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-2.html (specifically the part about bots at the bottom)
#103 [01:55] <Wug> sweet, I just crashed my window decorator
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#106 [02:17] <Magiobiwan> ;kick Wug RAWR
#107 [02:17] <Magiobiwan> oh.
#108 [02:17] <Magiobiwan> That's AuBot that does it.
#109 [02:17] <Wug> mmhm
#110 [02:18] <Magiobiwan> !kick Magiobiwan No. Just No...
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#113 [02:19] <Magiobiwan> !kick Magiobiwan no. Just...No.
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#118 [02:19] <Magiobiwan> There. Try it!
#119 [02:19] <Wug> heh its funny because I have ops on aubot
#120 [02:19] <Magiobiwan> Oh. Lame.
#121 [02:19] <Wug> I can use the greater .kick
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#124 [02:20] <Magiobiwan> What does .kick do?
#125 [02:20] <Magiobiwan> .kick WugBot ha.
#126 [02:21] <Magiobiwan> Oh. I broke AuBot
#127 [02:21] <Magiobiwan> ***
#128 [02:21] <Wug> basically the same thing as !kick except it works in all channels as opposed to just here and it doesnt decorate the kick message with funny stuff
#129 [02:21] <Wug> !kick wugbot
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#132 [02:21] <Wug> .kick wugbot
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#136 [02:40] <auscompgeek> o.o
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#143 [03:47] <blinky> hello
#144 [03:47] <blinky> Notch arround? or someone that may could help with buying minecraft? (sofortüberweisung)
#145 [03:48] <blinky> there is a strange bug that makes it impossible to buy minecraft over "sofortüberweisung"
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#148 [03:52] <blinky> hmmmmm
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#150 [03:54] <blinky> would be glad if someone can help me with the direct debit issue
#151 [03:55] <Calinou> blinky, uh?
#152 [03:55] <Calinou> you should ONLY buy minecraft from minecraft.net
#153 [03:55] <Calinou> ?? payment
#154 [03:55] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#155 [03:55] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#156 [03:56] <blinky> yes i buy it over minecraft.net for sure
#157 [03:56] <blinky> but there is a option for "sofortüberwiesung"
#158 [03:56] <Calinou> also, we're not affiliated with mojang. :P
#159 [03:56] <Calinou> I bought it using paypal, it works fine.
#160 [03:56] <blinky> bec. i have no via / master card i would use the sofortüberweisung feautre
#161 [03:57] <blinky> i cant use paypal.... no visa/mastercard and i dont wanna wait lot of days, direct debit ( www.sofortüberweisung.de ) is a perfect feature and even supported by minecraft.net
#162 [03:57] <blinky> it just dont dont work over minecraft.net, buggy implemented
#163 [03:57] <blinky> tells "Kontonummer field empty", but minecraft.net dont have a field for "Kontonummer", just Name & Mail ^^
#164 [03:57] <blinky> so the error is impossible to skip...
#165 [03:59] <Calinou> don't know then
#166 [03:59] <Calinou> you should mail the support: http://help.mojang.com
#167 [03:59] <blinky> i tryd to twitter notch, i wrote mails... but the past 48 hours no reply
#168 [04:00] <blinky> i will try the help stuff, thanks...
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#170 [04:01] <blinky> hm but i cant open a ticket/petition within help.... just f.a.q. and there is no content for that issue ;)
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#173 [04:05] <NinjaKirby> Can anyone here advise me on basic TexturePack modification? I'm so close, but yet so far getting my first modification to work.
#174 [04:07] <NinjaKirby> The Wiki article states I should save Graphics as 32bit PNG's with Alpha Transparency, but PSP only allows 24bit & Alpha Transparency :/
#175 [04:08] <NinjaKirby> I'm an idiot actually, lol
#176 [04:09] <NinjaKirby> YEEES, I just won the game
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#178 [04:10] <NinjaKirby> When I zipped it, I including the root folder, so everything was a directory too deep -_-
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#183 [04:26] <blinky> no german here that used the "sofortüberweisung" to buy a minecraft account? would need some help...
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#187 [04:39] <blinky> :(
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#190 [04:48] <NinjaKirby> Hey blinky, you're not alone in here, but sadly I haven't
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#193 [05:13] <blinky> now i gave it up, i charged now paypal with bank debit, may needs 1-2 days :(
#194 [05:13] <blinky> but better then to wait for nothing :p
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#208 [06:22] <theworldminers> hello?
#209 [06:22] <gPad2002> Hai
#210 [06:22] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#211 [06:22] <Wug> theworldminers: hello
#212 [06:22] <Wug> lol responsespam
#213 [06:22] <gPad2002> lol
#214 [06:23] <theworldminers> can anyone help me? i cant log into the cleint and minecraft.net
#215 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> And what happens when you try?
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#217 [06:23] <theworldminers> fail login
#218 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> "Login Failed" means you're entering your password in wrong
#219 [06:23] <Wug> that tends to mean you're using the wrong password
#220 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> Try resetting your password using:
#221 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> :resetpass
#222 [06:23] <WugBot> resetpass: You can reset the password for your minecraft account using the following page: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#223 [06:24] <theworldminers> did try it already
#224 [06:24] <gPad2002> And?
#225 [06:24] <theworldminers> nope
#226 [06:24] <gPad2002> "nope" tells me nothing
#227 [06:24] <theworldminers> it doenst work
#228 [06:24] <gPad2002> Be specific
#229 [06:24] <Wug> can you login from the website
#230 [06:24] <theworldminers> no
#231 [06:25] <gPad2002> Do you actually own the account
#232 [06:25] <theworldminers> its a legit account
#233 [06:25] <theworldminers> yes
#234 [06:25] <gPad2002> Or did you buy it from one of those sites
#235 [06:25] <theworldminers> no
#236 [06:25] <gPad2002> Hmm
#237 [06:25] <gPad2002> Is it a Mojang account or just Minecraft?
#238 [06:25] <GreyVulpine> Do you get an email from mojang with a link to reset your password when you do the password reset link?
#239 [06:25] <theworldminers> minecraft
#240 [06:25] <theworldminers> yes
#241 [06:26] <gPad2002> And what happens when you go through the steps?
#242 [06:26] <theworldminers> but i couldnt reset it back to something else
#243 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> What happens?
#244 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> Does it give you an error message?
#245 [06:26] <theworldminers> followt all the steps but it still didnt let me log into the site
#246 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> Did you reset your password to something new?
#247 [06:26] <theworldminers> yep
#248 [06:26] <gPad2002> And that didn't error?
#249 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> And you manually typed in the new password when you logged into minecraft.net?
#250 [06:27] <theworldminers> it did error and yes i typed it in manuall
#251 [06:27] <gPad2002> Oh, it errors
#252 [06:27] <gPad2002> What did it say?
#253 [06:27] <Wug> what error was it giving you
#254 [06:27] <theworldminers> unknown
#255 [06:27] <gPad2002> More info please
#256 [06:27] <Wug> unknown what
#257 [06:28] <gPad2002> We will have trouble helping you if you don't explain fully
#258 [06:28] <theworldminers> Oops, unknown username or password.
#259 [06:28] <gPad2002> Okay, and this is when you reset?
#260 [06:28] <theworldminers> yes
#261 [06:28] <theworldminers> after reset
#262 [06:28] <gPad2002> What is the account name?
#263 [06:28] <Wug> is it asking you to login before resetting your password
#264 [06:28] <theworldminers> theworldminers
#265 [06:28] <theworldminers> no
#266 [06:28] <gPad2002> !paid theworldminers
#267 [06:28] <gPad2002> Okay, so it does exist
#268 [06:29] <theworldminers> yep i paid for it
#269 [06:29] <gPad2002> Have you been able to log in before?
#270 [06:29] <theworldminers> yeah changed my skin a copple ties
#271 [06:29] <theworldminers> times
#272 [06:29] <gPad2002> And this just started today?
#273 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> Did you ever migrate your account?
#274 [06:29] <theworldminers> yes
#275 [06:29] <theworldminers> no
#276 [06:29] <Wug> .......
#277 [06:29] <gPad2002> Hmm
#278 [06:30] <DiskDaemon> Has he tried resetting his password from the information at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-i-forgot-my-password-
#279 [06:30] <gPad2002> He has
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#281 [06:30] <gPad2002> It errors though.
#282 [06:30] <theworldminers> could it be that i have been hackt?
#283 [06:30] <gPad2002> I doubt it
#284 [06:30] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361482-i-can-no-longer-log-into-minecraft-net
#285 [06:31] <Wug> sounds like a backend error or something
#286 [06:31] <gPad2002> DiskDaemon: Not a Mojang account
#287 [06:31] <DiskDaemon> There is a "contact us HERE" link at that page
#288 [06:31] <gPad2002> Wug: That it does
#289 [06:32] <theworldminers> i just tried to migrate and it dint work arror
#290 [06:32] <theworldminers> error
#291 [06:32] <gPad2002> What error?
#292 [06:32] <theworldminers> Error! An error occurred. Please try again later.
#293 [06:32] <gPad2002> Huh
#294 [06:33] <gPad2002> Yeah, it's probably a Mojang derp then
#295 [06:33] <DiskDaemon> At times only contacting Mojang is a viable solution - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#296 [06:33] <gPad2002> I suggest giving them a little while and then emailing them
#297 [06:33] <DiskDaemon> If trying again later (such as tomorrow), get in touch with them
#298 [06:33] <theworldminers> i did fill that in yeah and still waiting for any respons
#299 [06:33] <DiskDaemon> It can take 3 days or so for a response
#300 [06:33] <theworldminers> okay
#301 [06:33] <gPad2002> They'll take a while because they get a high volume
#302 [06:34] <theworldminers> okay till then no minecraft
#303 [06:34] <gPad2002> Pretty much
#304 [06:35] <gPad2002> Apologies for not being able to be more helpful
#305 [06:35] <Wug> theworldminers: you can play offline
#306 [06:35] <theworldminers> okay thanks for your guys help
#307 [06:35] <Wug> but you wont be able to use servers
#308 [06:36] <theworldminers> yeah but im co owner of a server and we are dealing with the perms and stuff
#309 [06:36] <theworldminers> but thanks for you guys time and help
#310 [06:36] <gPad2002> Alright, no problem
#311 [06:37] <DiskDaemon> that's okay. Sometimes about all that can be done is to confirm that there is a problem, and that appropriate steps are being taken to help resolve things
#312 [06:37] <gPad2002> ^
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#334 [08:12] <Piyok> Hello.
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#351 [09:51] <claude> All loadings freezes when I run minecraft, how to fix it?
#352 [09:52] <claude> Updating freezes, loading freezes. I deleted all files, reinstall and new client want unpack
#353 [09:52] <DiskDaemon> want or won't?
#354 [09:54] <claude> wont
#355 [09:54] <DiskDaemon> What is the error message that you're given?
#356 [09:54] <claude> None, it just stops, some of my friends got same problem
#357 [09:55] <DiskDaemon> Have you tried forcing an update, for it to attampt downloading again?
#358 [09:55] <DiskDaemon> The Options button of the loader lets you choose a forced update
#359 [09:55] <claude> No, what I dont so far, is try about 10 times, deleting all files (the roaming stuff too) and reinstalled
#360 [09:56] <DiskDaemon> Have you always tried so far from the same location?
#361 [09:56] <claude> without moving the client and stuff? yeah
#362 [09:56] <DiskDaemon> Quite possibly it's a poor internet connection that's causing the issue. Trying from a different location can help to resolve such things
#363 [09:56] <claude> and it worked perfectly for a long time now
#364 [09:58] <DiskDaemon> Between when it worked and now it doesn't, what things have changed that might cause a problem?
#365 [09:58] <claude> Just stopped working now, My net is fine, I think, some of my friends got same problem, and I dont think we all got bad net
#366 [09:58] <claude> nothing that I can think of, its just been there, havnt changed anything
#367 [09:59] <DiskDaemon> In that case patience seems to be about the only viable solution
#368 [09:59] <SinZ> any anti-virus software?
#369 [09:59] <claude> What Im gonna wait for? just try from time to time?
#370 [10:00] <claude> yeah got new anti Virus, but I tried deactivating it now. Still nothing
#371 [10:01] <DiskDaemon> So what has changed is that you've changed your anti virus situation?
#372 [10:01] <claude> Changed from Avira to avg
#373 [10:01] <SinZ> both of them have caused false positives on LWJGL
#374 [10:02] <SinZ> in the past
#375 [10:02] <DiskDaemon> Does your antivirus program report in its logs or its quarrantine anything about minecraft,
#376 [10:02] <claude> Give me a sec, going to check
#377 [10:02] <SinZ> AVG and Avira generally dump an error after awhile on downloading
#378 [10:02] <SinZ> error code 4 or something
#379 [10:03] <DiskDaemon> SinZ: You're more up on the play with this than I am at 3am now
#380 [10:03] <SinZ> 1am here
#381 [10:03] <DiskDaemon> :)
#382 [10:04] <DiskDaemon> It's also been reported within the past few months that avg is responsible for some issues - http://www.mpgh.net/forum/421-minecraft-discussions/253845-note-all-avg-users.html
#383 [10:04] <DiskDaemon> However, it would show a virus warning when you attempt to download. That doesn't seem to have occurred in this case
#384 [10:05] <claude> No virus warnings
#385 [10:06] <DiskDaemon> So it's a good bet that the antivirus program can be ruled out
#386 [10:06] <claude> brb
#387 [10:08] <claude> back
#388 [10:08] <DiskDaemon> If your local environment isn't responsible for the issue, there's nothing that you can locally do to resolve the problem. Makes sense, right? Meaning that patience while remotely others deal with things is the only viable outcome.
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#390 [10:11] <claude> Im gonna check all over and try to find the problem, comming back later if I cant do it
#391 [10:12] <claude> thx for the help
#392 [10:12] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#394 [10:13] <DiskDaemon> Bogota doesn't have all that reliable internet, but I didn't want to push the issue
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#398 [10:25] <FNugget> After playing minecraft for about 10 minutes, the game starts to lag and give me 0 FPS, and eventually locks my computer up until it finally goes to End of Stream
#399 [10:29] <DiskDaemon> that sound like too much memory is being used
#400 [10:30] <Wug> FNugget: 64 bit java
#401 [10:30] <Wug> you require it
#402 [10:30] <FNugget> i have it
#403 [10:30] <Wug> I'll bet you $10 you're not using it
#404 [10:30] <DiskDaemon> how can he find out?
#405 [10:30] <Wug> pull up minecraft and the task manager
#406 [10:31] <Wug> look in the task manager for javaw.exe
#407 [10:31] <Wug> if it has "*32" next to it, its the 32 bit one
#408 [10:31] <FNugget> no 32
#409 [10:31] <Calinou> or open cmd and type "java -version" :)
#410 [10:31] <FNugget> i have far render, im using 64bit
#411 [10:31] <Calinou> a bit harder, but works
#412 [10:31] <Wug> see also your symptoms fit the use of 32 bit java exactly
#413 [10:31] <Wug> if your computer overheating
#414 [10:31] <Calinou> FNugget, I play on far, I have 64bit win7, works without any problems
#415 [10:31] <Wug> is*
#416 [10:31] <Calinou> what is your graphics card/amount of RAM?
#417 [10:32] <FNugget> gpu is shite, but i have 4GB ram
#418 [10:32] <Calinou> to play minecraft, you should have at least 1GB of ram (minimal) and ideally 2GB (works best with HD texture packs)
#419 [10:32] <Calinou> if you're using an integrated GPU you should stick to tiny render distance
#420 [10:32] <FNugget> radeon HD 2400
#421 [10:32] <Calinou> (you can use optifine to see further using tiny)
#422 [10:33] <Calinou> FNugget, singleplayer or multiplayer?
#423 [10:33] <FNugget> it ran fine before. i have no idea why its dying now
#424 [10:33] <Calinou> the "the game starts to lag" give a possible clue about the lag's reason: bad chunks, causing hundreds of mobs to spawn
#425 [10:33] <FNugget> MP, i'm also playing on my own server running from same computer
#426 [10:33] <Wug> multiplayer (end of stream)
#427 [10:33] <Calinou> hundreds of mobs = lag
#428 [10:33] <clarjon1> FNugget: does it lag in singleplayer with the server off?
#429 [10:33] <FNugget> ./butcher
#430 [10:33] <FNugget> not that
#431 [10:33] <Calinou> running your own server on the same computer requires a good amount of ram and a good, dual-core (at least) CPU
#432 [10:34] <FNugget> im on a q6600
#433 [10:34] <Calinou> with 4GB of ram, you might switch to swap from time to time, resulting in suffering performance
#434 [10:34] <Wug> FNugget: download speedfan and see if you're overheating
#435 [10:34] <FNugget> not overheating
#436 [10:34] <Wug> how sure are you
#437 [10:34] <clarjon1> FNugget: Have you tried singleplayer only
#438 [10:34] <FNugget> very
#439 [10:34] <Calinou> try to allocate less RAM to minecraft client & server
#440 [10:34] <Wug> what are your temps
#441 [10:34] <FNugget> IT RAN FINE before
#442 [10:34] <Calinou> allocate 1024M to server and 512M to client (works fine with default texture pack)
#443 [10:34] <Calinou> oh, okay then.
#444 [10:34] <Calinou> possible overheating problem
#445 [10:35] <SinZ> FNugget: Overheating can be deceitful
#446 [10:35] * clarjon1 sighs
#446 [10:35] <FNugget> stop saying its overheating, ffs
#447 [10:35] <SinZ> my laptop hit 100C once, fans wern't even revving yet.
#448 [10:35] <DiskDaemon> WHat are the temps?
#449 [10:35] <Wug> check your temps ffs
#450 [10:35] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti - Okay. :)
#451 [10:35] <Calinou> Morrolan, tab fail :)
#452 [10:35] <Morrolan> No?
#453 [10:36] <Morrolan> Just a conversation with a few hours in between the individual messages. :)
#454 [10:36] <Calinou> DopeGhoti didn't said anything recently
#455 [10:36] <Calinou> ah okay :P
#456 [10:36] <clarjon1> FNugget: Have you tried running in single player with the server off. If there is no lag, try starting the server, and have another computer connect to the server whilst you play single player still. If lag starts, it's due to increased memory usage by the new map format.
#457 [10:36] <Wug> even that sounds unlikely
#458 [10:36] <Calinou> try what I said: allocating less RAM to minecraft
#459 [10:36] <clarjon1> Wug: you'd be surprised.
#460 [10:37] <Calinou> with 4GB of ram, on my linux computer, when I run both client & server I tend to swap to disk
#461 [10:37] <Wug> it might be a good idea to play with the task manager open so you can monitor your ram and cpu usage
#462 [10:37] <DiskDaemon> He's here for solutions. He should try applying some of this advice that provides solutions
#463 [10:37] <clarjon1> He's only got 4 gigs on 64bit win7
#464 [10:37] <clarjon1> Windows tends to take up 1.5-2 gigs on it's own
#465 [10:37] <clarjon1> leaving only 1 gig for the server, and 1 gig for the game
#466 [10:38] <clarjon1> and we know how each love to have as much ram as possible
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#468 [10:40] <FNugget> eh, GPU is kinda hot, 95, but it really shouldnt be the problem as I've ran minecraft for a lot longer than this without problems
#469 [10:40] <DiskDaemon> 95C?
#470 [10:40] <clarjon1> C or F
#471 [10:40] <FNugget> yes C
#472 [10:40] <clarjon1> O.O
#473 [10:40] <DiskDaemon> fuck me
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#476 [10:40] <clarjon1> dude, power down and clean your GPU fan and heatsink now.
#477 [10:41] <Yakuzing> 95C could be cold for a GPU, depends which one it is!
#478 [10:41] <Wug> FNugget: 95 would be overheating
#479 [10:41] <DiskDaemon> It's a radeon 2400
#480 [10:41] <Wug> if you poured water on it it would boil
#481 [10:41] <clarjon1> You're five degrees away from boiling water.
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#483 [10:42] <clarjon1> That's 203 F
#484 [10:42] <clarjon1> you can burn your flesh if you touch it
#485 [10:42] <Wug> even my laptop doesnt get that hot and it idles at 60C
#486 [10:42] <clarjon1> My laptop idles at 50 currently, due to dust in the heatsink that I can't access w/o a near complete disassembly
#487 [10:43] <FNugget> well
#488 [10:43] <DreadLindwyrm> 95 C is stupidly hot. You risk damaging things at that temp.
#489 [10:43] <clarjon1> yea
#490 [10:43] <FNugget> ive ran MC for longer than this before. So perhaps new version is somehow making GPU heat up more
#491 [10:43] <Wug> its possible
#492 [10:44] <Wug> idk what you use for cooling or if this is a laptop or a desktop
#493 [10:44] <clarjon1> or it could be a coincidence, and the layering of dust on the GPU heatsink has hit critical mass?
#494 [10:44] <Wug> but you might want to look into cleaning it and if that doesnt work replacving it
#495 [10:44] <FNugget> because i played for an entire day no problems, and only now i have this problem
#496 [10:44] <clarjon1> although, you could test...
#497 [10:44] <clarjon1> if you got that mcnostalgia mod, and went to an earlier version to test
#498 [10:44] <Wug> sometimes sudden overheating is an indication of upcoming death
#499 [10:44] <FNugget> its not very dusty in there
#500 [10:45] <FNugget> maybe
#501 [10:45] <clarjon1> when was the last time you cleaned it?
#502 [10:45] <FNugget> 4 mo ago
#503 [10:45] <clarjon1> I clean my PC bi-weekly
#504 [10:45] <FNugget> im looking at it now. pretty empty
#505 [10:45] <clarjon1> every other week
#506 [10:45] <clarjon1> FNugget: are you looking inside the slots on the GPU heatsink?
#507 [10:46] <FNugget> after i mentioned 95C, i closed MC. its down to 70C now
#508 [10:46] <clarjon1> 70C idle?
#509 [10:46] <DiskDaemon> What's the ambient room temperature, near 30C?
#510 [10:47] <DreadLindwyrm> Depends where you live
#511 [10:47] <FNugget> cores are 32-36
#512 [10:47] <DreadLindwyrm> I've heard everything from 15-30C quoted
#513 [10:47] <FNugget> hurgh
#514 [10:48] <DiskDaemon> FNugget: You're in egypt, right?
#515 [10:49] <clarjon1> No...
#516 [10:49] <DiskDaemon> City of Alexandria?
#517 [10:49] <DiskDaemon> Wrong city :)
#518 [10:49] <clarjon1> I think he's in Virginia
#519 [10:50] <FNugget> oh hi
#520 [10:50] <FNugget> i'd probably be getting a new computer soon
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#526 [11:20] <dr_bibble> Hello people
#527 [11:20] <dr_bibble> I have set up a server recently
#528 [11:21] <dr_bibble> so my friends can play and we can build stuff
#529 [11:21] <dr_bibble> but I am using craftbukkit, may I ask somehting about that here?
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#531 [11:25] <elspuddy> hi i'm having trubble runing minecraft, all i get is failed to launch , fatal error occured (4) :/ by zero , any idears on how to fix this ?
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#537 [12:06] <Deez> Hi there, my friend has just installed Minecraft for the first time and is getting a whitescreen and disconnect while trying to join my server. Does anyone know the cause?
#538 [12:08] <oldtopman> Deez: Does single player work?
#539 [12:08] <oldtopman> And does this happen on all servers, or just yours?
#540 [12:08] <Deez> One second, he is checking. Thanks for the speedy reply as well!
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#542 [12:12] <Wug> elspuddy: have you tried force updating
#543 [12:13] <Calinou> Deez, have you portforwarded? (default is port 25565 in TCP)
#544 [12:13] <Deez> Single Player seems to be working fine. The same issue is happening on another server as well.
#545 [12:13] <Calinou> your friend should also use 64 bit java if he's on a 64 bit computer
#546 [12:13] <Deez> And I dont need to portforward since I have a host that 100 others can connect to daily.
#547 [12:14] <oldtopman> Deez: Username?
#548 [12:14] <oldtopman> (of your friend)
#549 [12:14] <Deez> Why?
#550 [12:15] <oldtopman> Checking for erros with the account.
#551 [12:15] <oldtopman> errors*
#552 [12:16] <Calinou> ragequit
#553 [12:17] <elspuddy> Wug : same error
#554 [12:17] <Wug> elspuddy: do you get a stack trace or does it just die
#555 [12:20] <elspuddy> the client is open and just displayed the error
#556 [12:20] <Calinou> what error?
#557 [12:20] <Calinou> "<elspuddy> hi i'm having trubble runing minecraft, all i get is failed to launch , fatal error occured (4) :/ by zero , any idears on how to fix this ?"
#558 [12:20] <Calinou> try updating your video card drivers
#559 [12:21] <Wug> elspuddy: does it show you any other text
#560 [12:21] <Wug> Calinou: I suspect this is a flaw with game logic rather than the drivers
#561 [12:22] <elspuddy> screen grab :) http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/404/printedscreen.jpg/
#562 [12:23] <Wug> blugh
#563 [12:23] <Wug> when does it do that
#564 [12:23] <Wug> how far does it get when its loading
#565 [12:23] <elspuddy> not that far
#566 [12:24] <elspuddy> 1 mabay 5 % ?
#567 [12:24] <gPad2002> Hmm, division by zero
#568 [12:24] <Wug> do you have an antivirus program running
#569 [12:24] <Wug> I'd assume that it happens as its downloading files
#570 [12:24] <Wug> otherwise it would not give you a percentage
#571 [12:25] <elspuddy> nope, no av running and no firewall with the modem directley connected
#572 [12:26] <Wug> might your problem be virus interference?
#573 [12:28] <Piyok> Wug: What kind of problem does he have?
#574 [12:29] <elspuddy> error 4 ;/ zero
#575 [12:29] <Wug> a weird error in a weird place
#576 [12:29] <Piyok> Minecraft is acting silly?
#577 [12:29] <Piyok> What kind of error? :o
#578 [12:29] <elspuddy> but give me 5 mins, its not my copy of minecraft but a firend's copy and he has just booted to safe mode to see
#579 [12:30] <Wug> .. do you own minecraft
#580 [12:31] <elspuddy> i do yes, but he dose not have my copy
#581 [12:32] <Wug> whats your account name
#582 [12:32] <elspuddy> elspuddy
#583 [12:32] <Wug> ;hp elspuddy
#584 [12:32] <WugBot> elspuddy has paid for minecraft.
#585 [12:32] <sugoi> why do you need your friend's copy? have you tried a clean install using your account?
#586 [12:33] <Wug> its weird that it does not work. grab teamviewer and I will sort it out in a second
#587 [12:33] <Wug> :tv
#588 [12:33] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#589 [12:33] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#590 [12:33] <elspuddy> i dont, its my firend
#591 [12:33] <sugoi> well - let wug help you out, i'm missing part of the story anyhwo
#592 [12:36] <elspuddy> o.k, my firend just came back on line, and he said going into safe mode and runing the launcher managed to get the update and fixed it
#593 [12:36] <elspuddy> his username is marbolid
#594 [12:36] <sugoi> something is not right tho with the setup
#595 [12:37] <elspuddy> yep, he is thining some back ground prosses is stoping it
#596 [12:37] <elspuddy> just told him to format ;)
#597 [12:37] <elspuddy> any way, thanks for the help :)
#598 [12:38] <Wug> ......
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#601 [12:45] <OnkelBobsan> hi
#602 [12:47] <OnkelBobsan> i like to change my minecraft nickname but minecraft havn't the function. I need a support to change my nickname please :(
#603 [12:48] <sugoi> OnkelBobsan: the name is offensive and you're getting banned from servers?
#604 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> There is no method to change usernames
#605 [12:48] <OnkelBobsan> i hate my nickname -.-
#606 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> "http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329522-how-do-i-create-a-username-"
#607 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> "We do not currently support changing, editing, or correcting usernames. Make sure that you choose wisely; it will be used for both logging in, and your single/multiplayer persona."
#608 [12:50] <OnkelBobsan> okay, i have read for longer time that supports doing this
#609 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> I've been here since early Alpha. Mojang has always been unable to change Minecraft account usernames
#610 [12:51] <OnkelBobsan> okay but thank you for this information :)
#611 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> ?? snapshot
#612 [12:56] <VoxelHead> snapshot: Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/1_2/minecraft.jar
#613 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> ??~ snapshot|Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/1_2_5/minecraft.jar
#614 [12:57] <Calinou> btw, "We do not support pre-releases."
#615 [12:57] <Calinou> that should be removed IMO, prereleases are released by mojang
#616 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> Rather implied by now
#617 [12:58] <Calinou> and there's no problem in helping people having problems about them
#618 [12:58] <Calinou> (people always do, anyway)
#619 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> I understand. It's been Mojang's policy since pre-releases were out, that you used them at your own risk
#620 [12:58] <Calinou> k
#621 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> Just been parroting that same policy here. People are free to help out
#622 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> I just don't expect people to know the ins and outs of every snapshot/prerelease, and automatically know every bug and inconsistancy out there.
#623 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> I think I would've already gone crazy by then.
#624 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> (just like we have a longstanding policy of No modding support here, but I still have an open policy of "If you can help, feel free.", nobody's taken him up on that offer though)
#625 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> s/him/me
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#628 [13:27] <grass1234> can you help me find the minecraft irc channel for servers?
#629 [13:27] <grass1234> I seem to have forgotten
#630 [13:27] <Wug> that would be #smp
#631 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> #smp ?
#632 [13:27] <Wug> ninjad
#633 [13:27] <grass1234> Thanks, sorry
#634 [13:27] <grass1234> Thanks, sorry
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#636 [13:27] <Wug> a polite mibbit
#637 [13:27] <Wug> who would have thought
#638 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> "Removed all ghost entities under the command of Lord Herobrine"
#639 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Neat, no more TNT ghost entities I hope
#640 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Ooo.. "Made punching a TNT block with flint and steel in hand destroy and drop a TNT block (right-clicking will activate the TNT)"
#641 [13:30] <Wug> is this in the prerelease changelog or did they actually release 1.2.5
#642 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> NT
#643 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> er
#644 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> http://www.mojang.com/2012/03/minecraft-1-2-5-prerelease/
#645 [13:33] <Wug> "Made using a stack of bowls on Mooshrooms not consume the whole stack of bowls"
#646 [13:33] <Wug> oh good
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#651 [13:44] <sugoi> mushroom mushroom!
#652 [13:44] <sugoi> badger badger badger badger...
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#657 [14:10] * GreyVulpine hmms and is intrigued by Project Zomboid.
#657 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc6GCdW_rfA
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#659 [14:12] <cae> Hi!
#660 [14:12] * GreyVulpine waves
#660 [14:12] <cae> How do i add a webchat to my site?
#661 [14:12] <cae> +
#662 [14:12] <cae> See the msg in the minecraft server
#663 [14:12] <cae> ??????
#664 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Webchat, as in an IRC client/applet?
#665 [14:13] <cae> ?
#666 [14:13] <cae> yes
#667 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#668 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> What site do you run? What exactly do you want to do with it?
#669 [14:14] <asdfaksdfjlaksdfjlasdkfjaleiaj> http://chrisycraft.yourminecraft.net/
#670 [14:14] <asdfaksdfjlaksdfjlasdkfjaleiaj> Is my site
#671 [14:14] <sugoi> asd*: can you keep your nick short plz
#672 [14:14] <asdfaksdfjlaksdfjlasdkfjaleiaj> wHY?
#673 [14:14] <sugoi> 'cae' is much better
#674 [14:15] <Nick> test
#675 [14:15] <sugoi> Nick: :) very nice
#676 [14:15] <Babe> test
#677 [14:15] <Babe> test
#678 [14:15] <sugoi> ;q Babe plz less spam
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#680 [14:15] <sugoi> ;dequiet Babe
#681 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Probably the easiest way of adding an IRC webchat client to esper would be to use webchat.esper.net
#682 [14:16] <Babe> ?
#683 [14:16] <sugoi> Babe: and then you want that webchat broadcasted to your minecraft world?
#684 [14:16] <Babe> ?
#685 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> There'll be a menu button in the upper left that you can press to customize and have the code to add to your website
#686 [14:16] <Babe> Yes
#687 [14:16] <Babe> Then?
#688 [14:17] <Babe> t
#689 [14:17] <Babe> Which code?
#690 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Then just add that code to your website
#691 [14:17] <Babe> Which code?
#692 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> <@GreyVulpine> There'll be a menu button in the upper left that you can press to customize and have the code to add to your website
#693 [14:17] <Babe> What you mean?
#694 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Go to webchat.esper.net -- Do you see a menu button in the upper left?
#695 [14:17] <Babe> Where are the button?
#696 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> Little blue button labeled "Menu" in the upper left?
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#698 [14:26] <Drew> hey modders or whoever maybe be kind enough to help me out here, I recently updated to 1.2.4 and but build and industry aren't updated for it yet so i decided to revert using minecraft version changer
#699 [14:26] <Drew> anyways
#700 [14:26] <Drew> that worked
#701 [14:27] <Drew> but now i can't seem to find the correct version (1.2.3) of modloader
#702 [14:27] <xales> Drew: Try asking #risucraft
#703 [14:27] <Babe> Yes
#704 [14:27] <Babe> But how
#705 [14:27] <Babe> do i insert code?
#706 [14:27] <Drew> whenever i download what is supposedly 1.2.3 its for 1.2.4
#707 [14:27] <Drew> or so says magic launcher
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#709 [14:28] <xales> Drew: We do not generally provide support for mods here; #risucraft is a modding community, and the developers of modloader are there.
#710 [14:28] <Drew> alright
#711 [14:28] <Drew> thanks much
#712 [14:28] <Drew> i'll check that out
#713 [14:29] <smeas> when a trying to start minecraft i says conot conect to minecraft.net
#714 [14:29] <smeas> help pleeese
#715 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> Has it ever worked before?
#716 [14:29] <smeas> yes
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#718 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#719 [14:30] <smeas> windows 7 64 bit
#720 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> Did you recently update to java 7 on that?
#721 [14:30] <smeas> yes
#722 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> That would be why. Uninstall java 7, reinstall 6
#723 [14:30] <smeas> ok
#724 [14:30] <Drew> for some reason i can't write in that channel
#725 [14:30] <Drew> #risucraft
#726 [14:31] <xales> Drew: If I had to guess, it's because you are using Mibbit.
#727 [14:31] <Drew> it says Cannot send to channel: #risucraft
#728 [14:31] <Drew> i am
#729 [14:31] <Drew> what's wrong with it?
#730 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, use a different client. Mibbit is +q-ed
#731 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> People who use mibbit, are generally frowned upon.
#732 [14:31] <xales> As is Mibbit itself >.>
#733 [14:31] <Drew> hmm
#734 [14:31] * sugoi frowns on Drew
#734 [14:31] <Drew> good to know
#735 [14:32] <Drew> apologies
#736 [14:32] <sugoi> haah
#737 [14:32] <sugoi> i'm just messing around :)
#738 [14:32] <Drew> any recommendations?
#739 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> Operating system?
#740 [14:32] <Drew> windows
#741 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> http://www.xchat-wdk.org/home/downloads
#742 [14:32] <Drew> thanks
#743 [14:34] <Drew> what's the issue with mibbit out of curiosity?
#744 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> It's a bad IRC client for one.
#745 [14:35] <Drew> bad features?
#746 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> Has been hacked in the past, people who use it are generally seen as impatient.
#747 [14:35] <Drew> hm
#748 [14:35] <Drew> alright
#749 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> Using a proper IRC client, lets others know that you're willing to put forth some effort into chatting, instead of the "Ask question, leave minute later" syndrome we see with people who use mibbit and other web-based chats
#750 [14:37] <Drew> ah ok
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#752 [14:37] <Drew> that makes sense
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#756 [14:55] <Morrolan> It doesn't, really. But that's just me.
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#771 [16:34] <CODsniperkid> I hate it when the Curse Servers reach capacity...
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#775 [16:42] <mib_tcnncv> hi
#776 [16:43] <mib_tcnncv> is it possible i install an old mob, named levelcraft on an current 1.2.4 version?
#777 [16:43] <mib_tcnncv> *to install
#778 [16:43] <mib_tcnncv> any support on?
#779 [16:44] <DreadLindwyrm> I'd doubt it would work
#780 [16:44] <DreadLindwyrm> It'd depend whether any of the block IDs in the mod, or any of the calls overlap with things that have been added since it was written.
#781 [16:44] <mib_tcnncv> ok tx
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#783 [16:44] <DreadLindwyrm> #bukkit might know better.
#784 [16:45] <mib_tcnncv> if i like to spawn animals and village ppl by command use which mob do i need?
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#786 [16:47] <DreadLindwyrm> There are several, but I think you might be looking for something like Single Player Commands.
#787 [16:47] <calomile> Hey up, getting a very weird crash when on SMP when I try to do anything other than walk around (OS: Mac OS 10.6.8 latest java update)
#788 [16:47] <calomile> I might also add that I cannot use minecraft.app
#789 [16:48] <calomile> I have to launch the game via terminal.
#790 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> And what happens when you try to launch with .app?
#791 [16:48] <calomile> It does literally nothing.
#792 [16:48] <calomile> It doesn't even attempt to open the app as far as I can see
#793 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> That can be easily fixed, we see it quite often
#794 [16:48] <calomile> I can try debugging and pasting logs?
#795 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> ?? mac/permissions
#796 [16:48] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#797 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> er
#798 [16:48] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#799 [16:48] <calomile> Ah okay
#800 [16:49] <calomile> chmod
#801 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's the command
#802 [16:49] <calomile> Might have guessed
#803 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> Second part of your problem, yes, please paste your error logs to pastebin.com and give us the URL
#804 [16:51] <calomile> Ah sorry, didn't see I'd been unmuted. Sorry for the unwarranted query. Here is the pastebin of the terminal when it crashes: http://pastebin.com/i4EzKjNf
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#806 [16:51] <calomile> I'll look to see if I can find where the java logs are saved.
#807 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> That particular problem, hmm.
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#809 [16:52] <calomile> I should mention that currently I am using no 3rd party mods,
#810 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> I'm inclined to ask, are you using a multiple-monitor setup?
#811 [16:53] <calomile> Yes.
#812 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> That's most likely it
#813 [16:53] <calomile> Should I try fullscreen?
#814 [16:53] <calomile> Or disabling one monitor for the time being?
#815 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft, or more specifically, Java, has a problem with having an applet on the secondary monitor
#816 [16:53] <calomile> Ah!
#817 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> You don't need to disable it, just run minecraft on whatever monitor is primary
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#821 [16:57] <calomile> GreyVulpine: Cheers for all your help pal, that's definitely the problem (it's hilarious how you don't think about dragging an app to another screen to be the issue...)
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#823 [16:57] <calomile> Sadly the chmod fix didn't work, but I'm not troubled launching via Terminal anyway.
#824 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#825 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Is minecraft.app in your /applications/ folder?
#826 [16:58] <calomile> Yeah it is.
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#828 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Huh, that usually fixes every .app problem that doesn't launch correct (bobs in the dock menu)
#829 [16:59] <calomile> That's the thing, it doesn't even bob in the dock menu. It's as if launching the app does absolutely nothing.
#830 [16:59] <calomile> It doesn't even take highlight from Finder.
#831 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, but launching the .app in the terminal works?
#832 [16:59] <calomile> I have a download of the .jar
#833 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Could you try launching the .app in the terminal window, see if it throws any errors?
#834 [17:00] <calomile> I'm just launching the jar with the correct arguments for my amount of RAM
#835 [17:00] <calomile> Sure
#836 [17:01] <calomile> GreyVulpine: LSOpenURLsWithRole() failed with error -10810 for the file /Applications/Minecraft.app.
#837 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Huh... not familiar with that error..
#838 [17:02] <calomile> Yeah, I've never once experienced an application being completely unresponsive to launching. I can try a log from console. Gimme a couple secs.
#839 [17:03] <calomile> Oh man.
#840 [17:03] <calomile> I think I know what the problem is, and it's definitely PEBKAC
#841 [17:04] <calomile> I replaced JavaApplicationStub with one from the system resources library so that the app would launch using 64bit java. Having looked at syslogs, I didn't chmod it. :x
#842 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Please do share, I'm curious as well
#843 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Aah.
#844 [17:04] <calomile> Fail.
#845 [17:04] <calomile> Sorry for wasting your time, hahaha
#846 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> No worries, glad you got it straightened out
#847 [17:05] <calomile> Sometimes all it takes is a couple of braincells applied in the right direction. I should have thought to check console before coming here really :(
#848 [17:05] <calomile> Thank you so much for your help with the other issue though.
#849 [17:05] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#849 [17:05] <calomile> Can't thank you enough :)
#850 [17:06] <calomile> I don't think any amount of googlefu would have solved that issue!
#851 [17:06] <Grim_Reaper> Is that a tophat GreyVulpine?
#852 [17:06] <sugoi> haah
#853 [17:06] * sugoi upvotes Grim_Reaper
#853 [17:07] <Grim_Reaper> I dig tophats :3
#854 [17:07] <sugoi> le tophat
#855 [17:07] <calomile> Yep, chmod on JavaApplicationStub and hey presto! it launches. brb, finding a rock to go crawl under.
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#857 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> If you need any further assistance, we'll be here.
#858 [17:09] <calomile> Besides my own ineptitude I have had no problems whatsoever!
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#877 [18:33] <KooolaNL> hey guys
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#879 [18:34] <KooolaNL> how can i keep running minecraft server when i close putty
#880 [18:34] <KooolaNL> i tried CTRL+Z but it closes the server
#881 [18:36] <sugoi> KooolaNL: screen
#882 [18:36] <sugoi> KooolaNL: what distro?
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#903 [18:57] <KooolaNL> sugoi
#904 [18:57] <KooolaNL> ubuntu
#905 [18:57] <KooolaNL> 10.04 i think
#906 [18:57] <KooolaNL> i dont know how screen works
#907 [18:57] <sugoi> `screen` website: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
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#909 [18:58] <sugoi> KooolaNL: nor did i before i learned :)
#910 [18:58] <sugoi> KooolaNL: i HIGHLY recommend you use it
#911 [18:58] <sugoi> KooolaNL: i'd be happy to help you with some basic commands with screen
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#913 [18:58] <KooolaNL> i typ 'man screen'
#914 [18:59] <KooolaNL> i see so much info
#915 [18:59] <sugoi> haha
#916 [18:59] <sugoi> :)
#917 [19:00] <sugoi> KooolaNL: to list current screens, `screen -l`
#918 [19:00] <KooolaNL> i rage closed putty
#919 [19:00] <sugoi> ah!
#920 [19:00] <sugoi> i fail
#921 [19:00] <KooolaNL> couldnt even get VNC to work
#922 [19:00] <sugoi> i meant -ls
#923 [19:00] <KooolaNL> using this http://lifehacker.com/317125/set-up-vnc-on-ubuntu-in-four-steps
#924 [19:00] <sugoi> why?
#925 [19:01] <KooolaNL> are u fimiliar with teamviewer ?
#926 [19:01] <KooolaNL> i could olso give a screenshot
#927 [19:01] <sugoi> yes i am, why?
#928 [19:01] <KooolaNL> u could look what happends
#929 [19:01] <sugoi> wait wait...
#930 [19:01] <KooolaNL> doing stuff simultaniously lol
#931 [19:02] <sugoi> you went from "problem a" to "i have x" in like 2 seconds
#932 [19:02] <KooolaNL> no lol
#933 [19:02] <sugoi> why are you using vnc?
#934 [19:02] <KooolaNL> im not yet
#935 [19:02] <sugoi> ok, dont
#936 [19:02] <sugoi> why did you close putty?
#937 [19:02] <KooolaNL> ok how do i uninstall vnc
#938 [19:02] <sugoi> what os?
#939 [19:02] <KooolaNL> how do i check
#940 [19:02] <KooolaNL> unbuntu something
#941 [19:03] <sugoi> how did you install vnc?
#942 [19:03] <KooolaNL> http://lifehacker.com/317125/set-up-vnc-on-ubuntu-in-four-steps
#943 [19:03] <KooolaNL> Run the terminal command: x11vnc -forever -usepw -httpdir /usr/share/vnc-java/ -httpport 5800 and add it for auto-starting in future sessions
#944 [19:03] <KooolaNL> i do that and error
#945 [19:03] <sugoi> KooolaNL: so, apt-get
#946 [19:03] <sugoi> that's what you used to get vnc
#947 [19:03] <sugoi> i pressume
#948 [19:04] <sugoi> why did you want vnc?
#949 [19:04] <KooolaNL> i wanted it because i think im not good with terminal
#950 [19:04] <KooolaNL> and it might be easier to when stuff would work edit a text file
#951 [19:04] <KooolaNL> etc
#952 [19:04] <sugoi> what OS are you trying to connect to and from?
#953 [19:04] <KooolaNL> non
#954 [19:04] <KooolaNL> it didnt even start yet
#955 [19:05] <KooolaNL> it errors
#956 [19:05] <KooolaNL> @4
#957 [19:05] <sugoi> emphasis on 'trying'
#958 [19:05] <sugoi> you have ubuntu, i get that
#959 [19:05] <sugoi> what's the other machine's os?
#960 [19:05] <KooolaNL> this laptop
#961 [19:05] <KooolaNL> win7
#962 [19:05] <sugoi> is ubuntu running in a vm?
#963 [19:07] <KooolaNL> no
#964 [19:07] <KooolaNL> its a dedicated server
#965 [19:07] <sugoi> on your ubuntu machine, feel free to run `apt-get remove x11vnc vnc-java`
#966 [19:08] <KooolaNL> i olso want to change the admin password
#967 [19:09] <sugoi> root password? or admin password for vnc?
#968 [19:09] <KooolaNL> i dont want vnc anymore
#969 [19:09] <sugoi> then run the `apt-get remove ${packagename}` i gave you
#970 [19:10] <KooolaNL> http://pic.kooola.nl/PicAyzo/84e3d1.png
#971 [19:10] <sugoi> on ubuntu, google tells me you can run `passwd` to change passwords
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#973 [19:10] <sugoi> you have to run apt-get as root
#974 [19:10] <sugoi> ah, ubuntu crutch, you need to run sudo in front of your kitchen sink
#975 [19:11] <KooolaNL> i tried passwd
#976 [19:11] <sugoi> so, `sudo apt-get remove http://pic.kooola.nl/PicAyzo/84e3d1.png
#977 [19:11] <sugoi> derp
#978 [19:11] <sugoi> `sudo apt-get remove x11vnc vnc-java`
#979 [19:11] <KooolaNL> yep
#980 [19:12] <KooolaNL> in my email i got with server config
#981 [19:12] <KooolaNL> is a desktop account with a password
#982 [19:12] <KooolaNL> the password is the same asked if i do sudo su
#983 [19:12] <KooolaNL> i change that with passwd
#984 [19:13] <KooolaNL> or should i do passwd "desktop" ?
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#986 [19:13] <KooolaNL> so it changes the "desktop" account passwd
#987 [19:13] <sugoi> if you want to change the password of the user named 'desktop', yes
#988 [19:13] <KooolaNL> vnc is gone
#989 [19:13] <KooolaNL> should be ok then
#990 [19:13] <KooolaNL> olso putty wants me to enter server adres everytime i start it
#991 [19:14] <sugoi> if you want to change the passwd of root, you would run something like `sudo su -c passwd`
#992 [19:14] <sugoi> but i'm not an ubuntu user, gentoo rather
#993 [19:14] <sugoi> KooolaNL: in putty you can save a profile
#994 [19:14] <KooolaNL> oh
#995 [19:15] <sugoi> after you enter the IP/host, give a "saved session" name, and click 'save'
#996 [19:15] <KooolaNL> so yeah vnc is deleted
#997 [19:15] <sugoi> then double clicking that profile, or single click followed by clicking 'open' will open it
#998 [19:16] <sugoi> btw, who are you paying for this hosted server?
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#1000 [19:17] <KooolaNL> nobody
#1001 [19:17] <KooolaNL> the server is owned by OVH tho
#1002 [19:17] <sugoi> so what is this 'email' and 'server config' you're talking about?
#1003 [19:17] <KooolaNL> its a mail from them
#1004 [19:17] <sugoi> k, well, irrelevent
#1005 [19:17] <sugoi> movingo n
#1006 [19:17] <sugoi> on *
#1007 [19:18] <sugoi> can you run `screen -ls`
#1008 [19:18] <KooolaNL> no sockets found
#1009 [19:18] <sugoi> good
#1010 [19:18] <sugoi> that means no currently running screen
#1011 [19:19] <sugoi> if you run `screen`, it will appear as if your console 'reset' or something
#1012 [19:19] <sugoi> go ahead and do that
#1013 [19:19] <oldtopman> sugoi: How do you kill screens?
#1014 [19:19] <KooolaNL> screen
#1015 [19:19] <KooolaNL> lol wrong window
#1016 [19:19] <oldtopman> KooolaNL: What would make you think that?
#1017 [19:20] <KooolaNL> thought i was typing in putty
#1018 [19:20] <KooolaNL> instead i typed screen in here
#1019 [19:20] <KooolaNL> lol
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#1021 [19:20] <KooolaNL> can i pm u sugoi
#1022 [19:20] <sugoi> oldtopman: -d to detach, -wipe to make screen think there is no socket, ^K to kill the current one
#1023 [19:21] <sugoi> KooolaNL: sure
#1024 [19:21] <sugoi> oldtopman: are any of those your question?
#1025 [19:21] <oldtopman> Yep, just that one.
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#1027 [19:22] <sugoi> oldtopman: also, ^? shows commands
#1028 [19:24] <KooolaNL> what is ^?
#1029 [19:24] <KooolaNL> where does ^ stand for
#1030 [19:24] <gPad2002> CTRL
#1031 [19:24] <sugoi> KooolaNL: ctrl, and really it is ctrl-a
#1032 [19:25] <sugoi> gPad2002: i should say `^A K` for example, i'm paraphrasing as screen commands are all prefixed with ^a
#1033 [19:25] <gPad2002> Oic
#1034 [19:25] <sugoi> s/`^A K`/`^a K/
#1035 [19:25] <sugoi> derp, end with `
#1036 [19:25] <sugoi> whatever
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#1038 [19:27] <Wug> lawl I turned facebook into an uproar
#1039 [19:27] <Wug> I am doing a funny premeditated april fools joke
#1040 [19:27] <Wug> I'll be sharing pictures when im done
#1041 [19:28] <Wug> its going epically so far
#1042 [19:29] <Wug> My post is up to almost 30 comments, and we have had people do imagedumps, masstags, and obtuse remarks
#1043 [19:29] <Wug> I think its going well
#1044 [19:30] <Wug> .. this is not #minecraft
#1045 [19:31] <sugoi> Wug: haah
#1046 [19:31] <sugoi> ;quiet Wug stay on topic please
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#1048 [20:20] <sugoi> guys
#1049 [20:20] <sugoi> why would we see "java.io.IOException: Couldn't get lock for server.log" when running the server as user
#1050 [20:20] <sugoi> but not when root
#1051 [20:20] <sugoi> java 6 update 18
#1052 [20:21] <sugoi> oh
#1053 [20:21] <sugoi> idea
#1054 [20:21] <sugoi> derp
#1055 [20:22] <sugoi> i misread the error until i just pasted it here, silly me
#1056 [20:22] <sugoi> files were owned by root
#1057 [20:22] <sugoi> duh
#1058 [20:22] <sugoi> fixed now
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#1062 [20:35] <umbridge> evening guys, someone knows the region mod? (simple region...)
#1063 [20:35] <umbridge> i have a issue with /region teleport <REGNAME> .... always telling that no teleport is set, but how the fuck i set a teleport on a region name?
#1064 [20:35] * AuBot kicked umbridge from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mbridge :Please keep it civil.)
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#1066 [20:35] <umbridge> sry for not beeing civil haha
#1067 [20:36] <umbridge> but i searched over 3 hours for it but found nothing...
#1068 [20:37] <umbridge> how i make it possible to port me to each given region name?
#1069 [20:37] <umbridge> i have the issue that i lost many regions (destionations), would need to teleport me to them....
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#1071 [21:01] <oldtopman> umbridge: Try #risucraft, oor goofle, or somesuch.
#1072 [21:01] <oldtopman> We don't do a whole bunch of mods here.
#1073 [21:02] <Eddie> goofle
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#1079 [21:45] <Gator_tb> Hey Everyone. Just purchased Minecraft and trying to run in from my windows pc. The app starts and wants to update. It starts the update process for a minute or two then eventually stops. With "Failed to launch: fatal error occured (4): connection reset. Anyone???
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#1081 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> AV or security software is most likely blocking it
#1082 [21:48] <Gator_tb> nothing like that running. It gets so far, like :downloading packages Retrieving: minecraft.jar 78%, etc, etc......Tried it many times, gets to different progress all the time, then hangs.
#1083 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> What AV do you run?
#1084 [21:50] <Gator_tb> AVG....Just the free virus scan version.
#1085 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Go into AVG's options, turn off the "linkscanner" module. Then try minecraft again
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#1087 [21:51] <Gator_tb> Mint! that was it......Thx much
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#1089 [21:59] <DarkflyerV> Can someone help me change the default program for my jar files their stuck opening in windows explorer?
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#1100 [23:10] <bigcj> i need help with my server my friend cannot connect i already port forwarded or anything
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