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#11 [01:59] <HoboPickle> anyone know if it'll cause map corruption if i copy a server map while it's running?
#12 [02:05] <xales> It's possible, there is a save-off thing to allow it to be done safely
#13 [02:06] <HoboPickle> well, was planning on just using my irc client to make automatic copies, but if save-off is needed too, seems i have to dig around more.
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#16 [02:43] <AlphaBob> Hey, any Minecraft Alpha HD Texture patchers?
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#19 [02:44] <halldk> Hey can you guys help with payment issues?
#20 [02:45] <halldk> hello?
#21 [02:45] <halldk> hello?
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#23 [02:46] <halldk> anyone here?
#24 [02:46] <AlphaBob> Patience.
#25 [02:46] <AlphaBob> Lol, dump.
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#27 [02:46] <halldk> sorry, got dc'ed for a second, what did you say?
#28 [02:46] <AlphaBob> Patience.
#29 [02:47] <AlphaBob> They never write fast. Just ask several times, will propably help.
#30 [02:47] <halldk> okay, why are they so slow :P
#31 [02:47] <Wug> what issue are you having
#32 [02:47] <halldk> im trying to buy minecraft, and its saying that the merchent has blocked me
#33 [02:48] <halldk> which i figured/hoped was mojang
#34 [02:48] <Wug> It sounds like something mojang did
#35 [02:48] <Wug> go here: http://is.gd/G3zPKi and fill out the form
#36 [02:48] <Wug> theres a contact form
#37 [02:48] <halldk> thanks :)
#38 [02:48] <Wug> they typically take a few days to respond
#39 [02:48] <halldk> aww
#40 [02:48] <Wug> dont spam them, it makes them take longer
#41 [02:49] <AlphaBob> So, is there any Minecraft Alpha HD Texture patchers?
#42 [02:49] <halldk> so no one here can help me? i thought this was the official help form
#43 [02:50] <DiskDaemon> help.mojang.com is about the only official help
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#45 [02:50] <DiskDaemon> We here help with what we can if we can
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#47 [02:51] <Wug> halldk: that site is the official official help :P
#48 [02:51] <Wug> we can't do account issues here
#49 [02:52] <DiskDaemon> halldk: This is the page you need to read in regard to not being able to purchase - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
#50 [02:53] <halldk> thx
#51 [02:54] <halldk> could you post that again? just the last half, it wont open the page, and half is cut off
#52 [02:54] <DiskDaemon> You can get there from the http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/topics/151617-payment-troubleshooting-/articles page
#53 [02:55] <halldk> thx
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#78 [05:55] <thathz> My textures are coming out all grainy and starkly. Heres a screen shot http://i.imgur.com/iHjA5.png I'm running Linux Mint 12 and using integrated intel gpu thanks!
#79 [05:59] <Grim_Reaper> Lets take a looky
#80 [05:59] <Grim_Reaper> Which version of java are you using?
#81 [06:01] <thathz> sun java 6
#82 [06:01] <Grim_Reaper> Ok. give openjdk a try. See if that shows any improvements.
#83 [06:12] <EyesIsMine> intel gpu?
#84 [06:12] <EyesIsMine> no wonder
#85 [06:14] <thathz> same problem with openjdk
#86 [06:14] <thathz> }:
#87 [06:15] <EyesIsMine> are you using propertary or open-source drivers
#88 [06:22] <thathz> I read that the drivers are apart of the kernel, but I could be wrong. It's intell hd 3000. Integrated chip with the CPU.
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#91 [06:32] <EyesIsMine> hm
#92 [06:32] <EyesIsMine> try searching for spome drivers for it
#93 [06:32] <EyesIsMine> (your card)
#94 [06:41] <thathz> hmmm all I could find were forum posts saying to install packages I already had
#95 [06:41] <EyesIsMine> hm
#96 [06:42] <thathz> but I g2g to bed I'll work on it tomorrow thanks for trying
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#99 [06:58] <Dusty> anyone happen to have a item data list using exact code names? not numbers like "iron_sword"
#100 [06:59] <DiskDaemon> ID Resolver can save that to a text file for you
#101 [07:02] <Dusty> its my understanding modifying the clientside like that can cause servers to reject me, is there another way?
#102 [07:02] <DiskDaemon> You're looking for a way to change the client-side file without the server rejecting you?
#103 [07:03] <Dusty> no i would prefer a webpage with names
#104 [07:03] <Dusty> i don't want to mod my clientside if i can avoid it
#105 [07:04] <Dusty> -was under the strict impression we couldn't even discuss such a thing on this channel-
#106 [07:05] <DiskDaemon> Once you get the text file that id resolver generates for you, you can return your minecraft back to being unmodded
#107 [07:06] <Dusty> well as it stands google only has results for 1.2.3, an the official page for even that is "over loaded"
#108 [07:07] <Dusty> although.. given u said that.. shouldn't u or someone else already have said file made? an could just.. paste it on the one site?
#109 [07:07] <DiskDaemon> If that were the case you would have the link already.
#110 [07:07] <Dusty> will u be so kind to create one?
#111 [07:09] <DiskDaemon> Sure thing, come back tomorrow and I'll have one ready
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#113 [07:10] <Dusty> -takes note-
#114 [07:10] <Dusty> -takes note-
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#116 [07:12] <DiskDaemon> I'm not yanking his chain either. I don't even have 1.2.4 modloader yet
#117 [07:17] <DiskDaemon> Dag-nabit, it'll have to be 1.2.3 that the list is done for, as id resolver is still waiting on an update for 1.2.4
#118 [07:20] <Calinou> you have 150 mods?
#119 [07:20] <Calinou> cool story! now, connect to a multiplayer server to crash it.
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#123 [07:25] <Grim_Reaper> Oh hey Eddie
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#126 [07:45] <DiskDaemon> For the record, the block and item id's list for Minecraft 1.2.3 is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/910001/
#127 [07:45] <DiskDaemon> ID Resolver for 1.2.4 does not exist yet for a similar list to be created just yet
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#129 [07:55] <tkog77> Hi guys
#130 [07:55] <tkog77> There are french chanel here ?
#131 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> Not that we're aware of.
#132 [07:56] <tkog77> Hum ok
#133 [07:57] <tkog77> I'v a problem to speak at the official irc channel
#134 [07:59] <tkog77> (sorry for my english)
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#136 [08:02] <DiskDaemon> well your English is far far better than many of us can do in French
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#138 [08:03] <tkog77> Thank you xD
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#142 [08:06] <tkog77> I want to know if an official multiplayer server exist ?
#143 [08:06] <tkog77> or if it's will be launch
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#160 [10:23] <MCDanny> Hello!
#161 [10:23] <iChaos> HI
#162 [10:23] <NinjaKirby> Wattup
#163 [10:24] <NinjaKirby> I just played through my adventure map, 2 months work is only an hours gameplay O_o
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#168 [10:27] <NinjaKirby> Out of all the challenges so far though, a Timed jumping puzzle requiring long jumps combined with Skelly's that fire arrows at you, is the hardest (most annoying) thing.
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#170 [10:28] <MCDanny> Ive been here a month ago to help a friend of mine - He suffers from huge fps lag in mc. Someone here told us to update his graphics card driver. that helped for a few hours until it started again. he aligned 2GB RAM to mc and has put all graphics settings to the lowest,he even installed optifine smooth hd and used the performance enhancement options in it but that didnt help either. this lag insanity started after we restor
#171 [10:30] <NinjaKirby> I know it's a Cliché, but reinstalled Java? I had Stuttering issues in recent times, and complete uninstall/reinstall, to my disbelief, fixed it.
#172 [10:31] <NinjaKirby> My PC always used to fun it fine, then at some point, running even on Tiny Distance, Low-Particles ect. it still derp'd out
#173 [10:31] <MCDanny> k ill tell em
#174 [10:31] <MCDanny> were talking via skype atm so its perfect
#175 [10:31] <NinjaKirby> Ah :)
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#177 [10:32] <NinjaKirby> I'm not sure, but Java bugs me about patching every now and then, and I ponder if the cumulative effect of small patches has anything to do with it.
#178 [10:32] <NinjaKirby> I don't really see how, but files leftover or something...
#179 [10:32] <MCDanny> nope probably not
#180 [10:33] <Visitor_40236> It seems I'm back again. I'm running the mod Minecraft comes alive. It works perfectly. It recently started having a glitch that causes the game to crash whenever I use an arranger's ring. Can anyone help me, please?
#181 [10:35] <MCDanny> we really wann solve his problem >.< hes playing bf3 all day even though hes got nothing to unlock there so hes also bored outta his mind :P we wanna play mc on my server so he can finally build his house
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#183 [10:42] <`Zach> Is anyone there>
#184 [10:42] <`Zach> ?*
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#186 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> NinjaKirby - We see leftover files causing problems on a frequent basis. Uninstall/reinstalling java is one of our first steps
#187 [10:47] <NinjaKirby> Ah, enlightening, would have thought they might remain dormant as newer patches would presumably remove references to them altogether if they're *actually* unused.
#188 [10:49] <GreyVulpine> I remember a recent incident, where the downloadable client worked fine, "java -version", listed the latest 1.6 java JRE, but the browser client did not work. Turns out, uninstalling java 1.5 from the system fixed it.
#189 [10:50] <NinjaKirby> Huh, well, I myself am a testament to the success of the practise :P
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#192 [10:56] <`Zach> Is there anyway to fix a glitch?
#193 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the glitch
#194 [10:57] <`Zach> Are you the one that helped me yesterday? If so, it deals with that.
#195 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Not sure.
#196 [10:58] <`Zach> Well, recently I downloaded a mod called "Minecraft comes Alive". It has one glitch in it that it didn't have before. With using the arrangers ring, it glitches a bit now.
#197 [10:58] <`Zach> It didn't at first, though.
#198 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> Ah, the thing is, we don't generally support mods around here. There's thousands of mods out there, and it's basically impossible to give out support for all of them. I don't use that particular mod myself, so I don't know. You may be better off asking in the forum thread where you got the mod.
#199 [11:00] <`Zach> Alright. Thank you anyway, though
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#203 [11:04] <helpmeplease> hello can i have some help pls
#204 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> Sure, with?
#205 [11:04] <helpmeplease> i brought a new pc
#206 [11:04] <helpmeplease> alienware
#207 [11:04] <helpmeplease> and everytime i go to download minecraft it says publisher is unknown
#208 [11:04] <helpmeplease> and it just won't work at all
#209 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> Try using a different browser?
#210 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> Or try downloading from one of these links:
#211 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> !client
#212 [11:05] <helpmeplease> nope
#213 [11:06] <helpmeplease> it just doesnt connect to minecraft.net
#214 [11:06] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to get the client downloaded?
#215 [11:06] <helpmeplease> yes
#216 [11:06] <helpmeplease> but i cant login
#217 [11:06] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I see.
#218 [11:06] <MCDanny> reinstalling java didnt help at all :( has anyone got other suggestions to solve this?
#219 [11:06] <helpmeplease> says Cannot find minecraft.net
#220 [11:06] <helpmeplease> Whats ur problem danny/
#221 [11:06] <GreyVulpine> helpmeplease - Windows 7, I presume?
#222 [11:06] <helpmeplease> yes
#223 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> Does your windows username happen to contain a ! mark at the end?
#224 [11:07] <helpmeplease> no
#225 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> You're sure?
#226 [11:07] <MCDanny> its not really my problem my friend has huge fps lag in mc after we restored his notebook
#227 [11:07] <helpmeplease> yes its just Roy
#228 [11:07] <MCDanny> we updated his graphics card driver
#229 [11:07] <MCDanny> we reinstalled java
#230 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> MCDanny - 32 or 64 bit operating system?
#231 [11:07] <MCDanny> we assigned 2gb ram to mc
#232 [11:07] <MCDanny> 32 bit
#233 [11:07] <helpmeplease> try makin a batch program
#234 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> helpmeplease - In the launcher, do you get a news feed?
#235 [11:08] <helpmeplease> java -> Xms650ms
#236 [11:08] <helpmeplease> its something like that
#237 [11:08] <helpmeplease> no
#238 [11:08] <helpmeplease> i dont get the news feeds just random code at the top
#239 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> Nothing shows up above where you log in with the launcher?
#240 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> Ah-hah.
#241 [11:08] <helpmeplease> hold on ill copy paste it
#242 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> You most likely have java 7 installed on your computer. Uninstall it, reinstall 6 instead
#243 [11:09] <MCDanny> grey
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#245 [11:09] <MCDanny> me?
#246 [11:09] <helpmeplease> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Loading update news..</center></font></body></html>
#247 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> Not you
#248 [11:09] <MCDanny> oh
#249 [11:09] <helpmeplease> thats what i get
#250 [11:09] <MCDanny> then what should i do?
#251 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> helpmeplease - You most likely have java 7 installed on your computer. Uninstall it, reinstall 6 instead
#252 [11:09] <MCDanny> Xd
#253 [11:09] <helpmeplease> it says jre-6u31
#254 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> MCDanny - Do you have access to your firend's laptop right now?
#255 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> helpmeplease - Look through your control panel -> programs and features.
#256 [11:09] <helpmeplease> k
#257 [11:09] <Calinou> that thing is fail HTML code
#258 [11:10] <Calinou> check your firewall.
#259 [11:10] <MCDanny> not really but i can tell him to open teamviewer
#260 [11:10] <helpmeplease> o yes i have java 7
#261 [11:10] <helpmeplease> i didnt even install it java 7...
#262 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall 7, reinstall 6
#263 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> It'll work then
#264 [11:10] <MCDanny> k what now grey?
#265 [11:10] <helpmeplease> i have 6 already on
#266 [11:10] <helpmeplease> MCDanny i might be able to help u
#267 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> helpmeplease - Then uninstall 7
#268 [11:11] <helpmeplease> i had to do what u have on my pc
#269 [11:11] <Calinou> make sure you install java 64 bit to avoid "out of memory" problems on 64 bit systems
#270 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> MCDanny - Would help us if you could get a dxdiag from that laptop
#271 [11:11] <Calinou> if you bought your computer recently, and your computer is not a netbook, it's likely to be 64bit
#272 [11:11] <helpmeplease> yes i brought it like 3 days ago
#273 [11:11] <helpmeplease> its amazing...
#274 [11:11] <helpmeplease> so quick =)
#275 [11:11] <MCDanny> kk i told him to make one
#276 [11:12] <Calinou> then you probably have a 64 bit OS.
#277 [11:12] <helpmeplease> danny brb im gunna get code u need
#278 [11:13] <MCDanny> all right the dxdiag is running ill copy paste it on a site you provide me
#279 [11:13] <MCDanny> give me a link
#280 [11:13] <GreyVulpine> www.pastebin.com
#281 [11:13] <MCDanny> thx
#282 [11:13] <Calinou> install 64 bit java here: http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml
#283 [11:14] <helpmeplease> okay danny
#284 [11:14] <helpmeplease> type this in his wordpad
#285 [11:14] <helpmeplease> java -Xms650m -jar (where every minecraft is located
#286 [11:15] <helpmeplease> so example is
#287 [11:15] <helpmeplease> java -Xms650m -jar "C:/Applications/Desktop/minecraft.exe
#288 [11:16] <MCDanny> http://pastebin.com/SBvc5Ypr
#289 [11:17] <MCDanny> k ill write the code and make the batch file
#290 [11:17] <MCDanny> then well see if it lags
#291 [11:17] <MCDanny> and grey will look at the dxdiag
#292 [11:17] <helpmeplease> it shudnt then if it does i dno
#293 [11:17] <helpmeplease> omg javas crashed and wont close...
#294 [11:18] <helpmeplease> need restart
#295 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> Already know the issue, and the solution
#296 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> This is your friend's laptop, correct?
#297 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> MCDanny?
#298 [11:22] <MCDanny> yeah
#299 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> First off, this appears to be a 64 bit windows operating system. Did you install 64 bit java with it?
#300 [11:22] <MCDanny> sry i was trying the batch file
#301 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> Batch file wouldn't help in this case, it's not a lack of memory issue
#302 [11:23] <MCDanny> uuuhm please dont stop helping us but he has it cracked..
#303 [11:23] <MCDanny> i bought it
#304 [11:23] <MCDanny> he cracked it
#305 [11:23] <MCDanny> cracked=32 bit only
#306 [11:23] <MCDanny> :P
#307 [11:23] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#307 [11:23] <Morrolan> Heh, another of these "using the internal instead of the dedicated GPU" cases?
#308 [11:23] * GreyVulpine nods
#308 [11:24] <MCDanny> grey we already did that thing with the internal changed to nvidia card
#309 [11:24] <MCDanny> that helped for a few hours or so
#310 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> A few hours?
#311 [11:25] <MCDanny> i just told him that he would have to do the settings and he was like "what?? i already did that a few weeks ago and it helped for a day!"
#312 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> Did he reset the computer again since then, or something?
#313 [11:25] <MCDanny> nope
#314 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> Is the setting still there?
#315 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps he needs to redo it, if the game has changed/updated
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#317 [11:26] <MCDanny> yep setting is there
#318 [11:26] <dzzzY> Grey
#319 [11:26] <MCDanny> its still as it was 1 month ago
#320 [11:27] <dzzzY> Thank you! =)
#321 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> I'd clear the setting, have him redo it and see if it still is wonky
#322 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> dzzzY - Glad we could help
#323 [11:27] <dzzzY> i think the java 7 was automatically put on cuz i didnt install it
#324 [11:27] <MCDanny> kk i redid the setting
#325 [11:27] <dzzzY> danny did the batch file work?
#326 [11:27] <MCDanny> kk ill tell him to start mc and see for himself
#327 [11:28] <MCDanny> nope the batch file didnt do anything
#328 [11:28] <MCDanny> it didnt start mc
#329 [11:28] <MCDanny> even though the path was right
#330 [11:28] <dzzzY> did u add a " at the start?
#331 [11:28] <MCDanny> it said the command was written wrong
#332 [11:28] <MCDanny> yep
#333 [11:28] <dzzzY> idk...thats how it was on mine
#334 [11:28] <dzzzY> but thats an xp pc...
#335 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> MCDanny - Also, he's got a 64 bit OS with 4 gigs of RAM. We've seen stuttering issues when 32 bit java is installed on the machine. Problem could be fixed by installing 64 bit java.
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#338 [11:35] <MCDanny> yeah but his cracked version doesnt support 64 bit
#339 [11:35] <MCDanny> i use 64 for mine because its not cracked
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#341 [11:35] <MCDanny> but the strange thing is he used 32 bit before the restore aswell and he had 0 lag
#342 [11:35] <MCDanny> so it must have something to do with the restore
#343 [11:36] <MCDanny> and the settings didnt help
#344 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> It.. shouldn't matter.
#345 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> Unless the cracked version is doing something strange.
#346 [11:37] <MCDanny> kk ill tell em to download 64 bit although i dont think itll helo
#347 [11:37] <MCDanny> help
#348 [11:37] <MCDanny> and btw when the lags start in mc he also lags on skype
#349 [11:37] <MCDanny> but its only in mc
#350 [11:38] <MCDanny> he can play warrock for example and it runs smoothly with skype
#351 [11:45] <oldtopman> MCDanny: We do'nt help cracked versions here.
#352 [11:46] <MCDanny> -.-
#353 [11:46] <MCDanny> thats unfair
#354 [11:46] <MCDanny> im not even cracking
#355 [11:46] <MCDanny> i bought it
#356 [11:46] <MCDanny> my friend didnt
#357 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> And he's the one with the problem, not you.
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#359 [11:52] <MCDanny> k then ill tell em to buy mc so he can get help -.-
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#365 [12:14] <Xajin> I have bukkit server installed on my centos 5.5 server. I have stopped the server and am trying to run a minecraft 1.2.4 server. When I run the script I only get Error! Could not start minecraft.jar. Is there a way to get more debug info from the start up ?
#366 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Try #bukkit
#367 [12:15] <iChaos> :O
#368 [12:15] <Xajin> I am not using bukkit server at the moment
#369 [12:15] <Xajin> just trying to run the minecraft server
#370 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> How are you running it?
#371 [12:15] <Xajin> with the start up script
#372 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> What script?
#373 [12:16] <Xajin> from mine craft
#374 [12:16] <Xajin> I have also tried
#375 [12:16] <Xajin> java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -jar minecraft.jar nogui
#376 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.jar or minecraft_server.jar?
#377 [12:18] <Xajin> dont tell me I am trying to start up the dam client, ha ha one sec
#378 [12:19] <Xajin> ha ha I am such a dumb but sometimes
#379 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> No worries
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#381 [12:26] <Xajin> Is there a way to change screen name minecraft is using?
#382 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> There is not, unfortunately
#383 [12:28] <Xajin> can you tell the client to run on a different address domain:port ?
#384 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> The client? Yes, with address:port
#385 [12:29] <Xajin> that was it had to set the port in iptables
#386 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> You can tell the server to run on a different port via the port argument in server.properties
#387 [12:30] <Xajin> thanks found that, got both bukkit and minecraft running now
#388 [12:30] <Xajin> thanks for all the help
#389 [12:30] * GreyVulpine nods
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#391 [12:44] <Xajin> Whats a good rpg mod for minecraft?
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#393 [12:51] <Damaskox> Test.
#394 [12:51] <Damaskox> Good, I can write in here without registering.
#395 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> mcMMO for bukkit, I hear is pretty popular
#396 [12:51] <Damaskox> I would ask about a mod I'm interested in.
#397 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> Damaskox - If you're wondering why you can't talk in #minecraft, you need to register your nickname first
#398 [12:52] <Damaskox> I have noticed there's a market system in Survival Multiplayer servers and I was wondering, is it bossible in Single too.
#399 [12:52] <Damaskox> Grey, affirmative, I read the topic in there.
#400 [12:52] <Damaskox> *possible
#401 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, mods are not really something we deal with here. There's just way too many mods out there for any one person to know them all.
#402 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> You may be better off asking in #risucraft
#403 [12:53] <Damaskox> I shall check that channel. Thanks.
#404 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> But hmm
#405 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> You may want to check out something like: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/364525-123-equivalent-exchange-2-v1403-smp/
#406 [12:54] <Damaskox> I shall check this link as well. Thanks.
#407 [12:56] <Morrolan> Xajin - Heroes for Craftbukkit is pretty popular too.
#408 [12:56] <Damaskox> Damn this needs many other mods to work on.
#409 [12:56] <Xajin> Thanks, I was actually trying to switch to just minecraft server, is there a disadvantage to using just bukkit?
#410 [12:57] <Morrolan> No.
#411 [12:57] <Morrolan> Actually, yes, there is.
#412 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> Bukkit has the advantage of being endlessly modifiable, but you run the risk of it lagging behind when minecraft updates.
#413 [12:57] <Morrolan> Most likely Bukkit won't get continued, seeing as the core team switched to Mojang.
#414 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> and ^
#415 [12:58] <Morrolan> So unless you want to spend hours on migration, stick with the Vanilla server for now. ;D
#416 [12:58] <Morrolan> Can't wait for it already. -.-
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#418 [13:02] <Damaskox> Well, I try to get this working. Thanks again o/
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#420 [13:08] <Xajin> Anyone know if Tale of Kingdoms Mod is multiplayer or just a single player
#421 [13:09] <xales> It's not multiplayer.
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#424 [13:13] <Gurkenglas> I want to make a small bukkit mod, where do I head with that?
#425 [13:13] <Gurkenglas> Imma explain it until I get an answer :o
#426 [13:13] <Gurkenglas> Every tick, it selects one random pair of dropped blocks
#427 [13:13] <Calinou> Imma tell you how to code until the end of time!
#428 [13:13] <Calinou> sorry. you don't make a mod by snapping your fingers.
#429 [13:14] <Gurkenglas> I have programmed quite a bit in 2 different languages
#430 [13:14] <Calinou> if you want to make a bukkit plugin, you should at least know java.
#431 [13:14] <Gurkenglas> Yup, know some java
#432 [13:14] <Calinou> hah, okay
#433 [13:14] <Calinou> first you could search around in the bukkit forums: http://bukkit.org
#434 [13:14] <Calinou> maybe you'll find some useful information there
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#436 [13:16] <longbyte1> Hello, I want to unzip some files and add them to the archive minecraft.jar through 7zip command line
#437 [13:16] <longbyte1> what are the parameters I need to do so?
#438 [13:17] <Calinou> longbyte1, why the command line? also, what OS?
#439 [13:17] <longbyte1> batch files
#440 [13:17] <longbyte1> windows 7
#441 [13:17] <Calinou> command line on windows ._.
#442 [13:17] <Calinou> why would you need to do that?
#443 [13:17] <Calinou> also I don't know
#444 [13:17] <longbyte1> auto installers
#445 [13:18] <Calinou> meh... I'd prefer to tell people how to install a mod. it's terribly simple anyway.
#446 [13:18] <Calinou> if you can't install a mod you probably shouldn't download a mod.
#447 [13:18] <Calinou> considering it can be risky
#448 [13:18] <longbyte1> I can install a mod
#449 [13:19] <longbyte1> think of it this way
#450 [13:19] <Calinou> speaking to the users ;)
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#452 [13:19] <longbyte1> I want to install a mod... in style
#453 [13:19] <Calinou> an installer can be risky, usually more than mods
#454 [13:19] <Calinou> what's the point in installing a mod in style? :P
#455 [13:19] <longbyte1> is faster
#456 [13:19] <longbyte1> and it gives me a sense of accomplishment
#457 [13:20] <Calinou> faster? windows+R, %appdata%, .minecraft, bin, minecraft.jar, put files inside. done in 10 seconds
#458 [13:20] <Calinou> about accomplishment, my word: google it. :)
#459 [13:20] <Calinou> google it first before asking, my word on advice on any help IRC channel
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#461 [13:22] <longbyte1> faster != www.minecraftforum.net>mods>sift through many pages>look for download link>open a million windows trying to find out where the .minecraft folder is in a bunch of shortcuts>open with 7zip>put it in there>close all of the other windows>go to desktop>start minecraft>wait
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#463 [13:22] <longbyte1> and if it doesn't work, go to step 1
#464 [13:22] <longbyte1> again....
#465 [13:22] <longbyte1> do that for every single mod and every single minecraft update
#466 [13:24] <Calinou> "open a million windows trying to find out where the .minecraft folder is in a bunch of shortcuts" heh, what I said
#467 [13:25] <Calinou> google "minecraft modname site:minecraftforum.net" > find download link, tip: ctrl+F type "download", download, unzip, win+R, %appdata%, put in bin/minecraft.jar, done
#468 [13:25] <Calinou> I do that in one minute. ;)
#469 [13:25] <Calinou> now: invent wget for windows and you will be able to skip the minecraftforum step
#470 [13:26] <longbyte1> there already is
#471 [13:26] <longbyte1> it's called gnuwin32
#472 [13:27] <longbyte1> and that's what I'm using, along with 7zip
#473 [13:27] <longbyte1> but 7zip is not behaving well
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#477 [13:50] <longbyte1> so uhhh
#478 [13:50] <longbyte1> anyone going to help me
#479 [14:03] <Calinou> longbyte1, not behaving well?
#480 [14:03] <Calinou> explain
#481 [14:03] <longbyte1> so I do this
#482 [14:03] <longbyte1> installer\7zip\7za a bin\minecraft.jar .\temp\*
#483 [14:04] <longbyte1> the current directory is the .minecraft folder
#484 [14:04] <longbyte1> everything's "ok"
#485 [14:04] <longbyte1> but when I launch minecraft, black screen
#486 [14:05] * langkid1 rolls around
#486 [14:05] <longbyte1> and the new files have timestamps evidently
#487 [14:05] * langkid1 rollllllllllllls around near Morrolan
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#490 [14:12] <longbyte1> hello?
#491 [14:12] <longbyte1> help?
#492 [14:13] <Morrolan> Go ahead and ask your question.
#493 [14:13] <Morrolan> Unless you prefer to keep on asking whether someone's here. If that's the case - please continue to do so. :)
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#495 [14:14] <longbyte1> ok
#496 [14:14] <longbyte1> so, I'm making a batch file
#497 [14:14] <longbyte1> I want 7zip to add some files to minecraft.jar, but it's not behaving well
#498 [14:15] <Calinou> longbyte1, removed meta-inf?
#499 [14:15] <Calinou> :>
#500 [14:15] <longbyte1> :O
#501 [14:15] <longbyte1> that's what I forgot!
#502 [14:15] <Calinou> ^_^. installed modloader if you install a modloader mod?
#503 [14:15] <Calinou> don't forget that too
#504 [14:15] <Morrolan> Oh, I see you already asked up there. And seems that problem solved itself now. ^.^
#505 [14:16] <longbyte1> fail
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#507 [14:24] <longbyte1> yay! :D
#508 [14:24] <longbyte1> thank you
#509 [14:25] <longbyte1> bye
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#515 [14:55] <azazazazazazazazaz> can anyone help me with a problem with the game minecraft
#516 [14:55] <azazazazazazazazaz> hello
#517 [14:55] <xales> In #minecrafthelp ? No.
#518 [14:55] <azazazazazazazazaz> ummmmm
#519 [14:56] <azazazazazazazazaz> so where can i get help
#520 [14:57] <azazazazazazazazaz> again hello?
#521 [14:57] <Morrolan> That depends on your purse, really.
#522 [14:57] <Morrolan> Seriously though, you might want to describe your issue, else it'll take some time to get an answer.
#523 [14:58] <azazazazazazazazaz> in my minecraft it dosent want to update
#524 [14:58] <azazazazazazazazaz> so i am stuck in 1.8.1
#525 [14:59] <Morrolan> It "doesn't want to update"? Try to force an updat. Start up the launcher -> Options -> Force update -> Log in as usual.
#526 [14:59] <Morrolan> an update*
#527 [14:59] <azazazazazazazazaz> i try that but it says failed to launch minecraft update
#528 [15:00] <Morrolan> What does it say exactly?
#529 [15:00] <Morrolan> And when do you get said error message?
#530 [15:00] <azazazazazazazazaz> wait let me check
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#532 [15:01] <azazazazazazazazaz> failed to launch every time that it gets to 20%
#533 [15:03] <xales> Do you use AVG?
#534 [15:03] <xales> If so, disable the "Link Scanner" module.
#535 [15:03] <xales> If you do not, disable any firewall or antivirus software on your computer.
#536 [15:03] <xales> If that does not resolve the issue, ask for further assistance.
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#543 [15:51] <Marcelwo4jedynki> how to craft portal gun with the mod?
#544 [15:53] <DiskDaemon> The portal gun forum will have such instructions
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#546 [15:53] <Marcelwo4jedynki> Could you gimme link?
#547 [15:53] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/199391-124-portal-gun-reconstructed-v1-of-faith-plates-and-pellets/
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#549 [15:54] <Marcelwo4jedynki> Thx
#550 [15:57] <EyesIsMine> hhm
#551 [15:57] <EyesIsMine> is jre7 better than jre6 for mc
#552 [15:57] <DiskDaemon> Yes it is, especially if you're on Windows 7 using the 64-bit os.
#553 [15:58] <EyesIsMine> i'm using win7 32-bit
#554 [15:58] <EyesIsMine> getting 15fps
#555 [15:58] <EyesIsMine> with a gtx 460
#556 [15:59] <Marcelwo4jedynki> Try optifine
#557 [15:59] <EyesIsMine> er 465
#558 [15:59] <EyesIsMine> and i'm getting lower fps than a 5450 radeon
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#584 [18:31] <Agrippah> hi friends, what is the point in registering at minecraft.net if you do not buy the game? I dont get why 25 million register
#585 [18:34] <NinjaKirby> For the Honour, KAPLAH!
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#587 [18:35] * NinjaKirby ponders if that's "Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa"
#587 [18:36] * Agrippah shakes head. Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa
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#588 [18:36] <Pepper> Wasn't there an Agrippa in Harry Potter?
#589 [18:37] <Agrippah> I thought it was Snape
#590 [18:38] <Pepper> Yes, there was Snape o.o
#591 [18:38] <Agrippah> Anyways, why do people register on minecraft.net if they dont buy the game? Is there any point in it? I am curious since 25 million registered, but only 5 million bought the gmae
#592 [18:39] <Pepper> To play classic, mainly
#593 [18:41] <Agrippah> Pepper, I think you are correct
#594 [18:41] <Pepper> Hm?
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#597 [18:44] <Agrippah> Pepper, which SMP server do you play on?
#598 [18:44] <Pepper> I don't
#599 [18:44] <Pepper> Rarely even play
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#601 [18:46] <Pepper> Majority of my minecraft time is modding, actually
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#603 [18:47] <Agrippah> Ok, I cant play, Jebs latest patches really made the game unplayable. Beta was very smooth though
#604 [18:48] <Pepper> Hm, really?
#605 [18:48] <Agrippah> Yes, it lags so much since January or so
#606 [18:48] <Agrippah> Going into jungle everything drops to 5-10 frames. I downgraded to Beta 1.8, soooo smooth
#607 [18:49] <DreadLindwyrm> Strange - it shouldn't have that much effect.
#608 [18:49] <Pepper> Jungles are suckers though
#609 [18:49] <Agrippah> I am thinking Jeb did bad Java programming since he took over, so everything lags
#610 [18:50] <Agrippah> In Beta I could host a server on the same computer, now that is impossible
#611 [18:50] <AG_Clinton> You should've seen the game in Alpha.
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#613 [18:51] <Pepper> Heh
#614 [18:51] <Agrippah> But really, even without jungle it lags. What did Jeb do? Adding MOB AI and cats shouldnt slow down the game. I mean, I cat should make lag as much as a pig
#615 [18:52] <Agrippah> Is it all the wild grass?
#616 [18:53] <DreadLindwyrm> Cats have more complex AI than pigs
#617 [18:54] <Pepper> And AI has been completely rewritten anyway
#618 [18:55] <Agrippah> Can you guys still play the game without tiny render distance?
#619 [18:56] <Pepper> 60FPS with 512x textures and optifine :|
#620 [18:56] <Agrippah> omg
#621 [18:56] <Pepper> Everything except fancy graphics
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#623 [18:57] <Pepper> Complete minimum settings get me 720+
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#625 [18:59] <Agrippah> maybe optifine can help me?
#626 [18:59] <Pepper> Almost definitely
#627 [19:00] <Pepper> Lots of people say it doubles FPS
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#629 [19:02] <mib_ds89wn> can someone help me
#630 [19:02] <WugBot> mib_ds89wn: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#631 [19:02] <mib_ds89wn> my mine craft wont start
#632 [19:03] <mib_ds89wn> pls can someone help
#633 [19:07] <mib_ds89wn> I can be patient but pls someone halp
#634 [19:08] <Agrippah> What does it say?
#635 [19:08] <Agrippah> When you start it?
#636 [19:09] <mib_ds89wn> it says pixel format something
#637 [19:10] <Pepper> Drivers
#638 [19:10] <mib_ds89wn> sounds good to me
#639 [19:10] <NotWug> april fools
#640 [19:11] <NotWug> this is the part where I ding everyone
#641 [19:11] <Pepper> Do I get a chocolate egg now? :D
#642 [19:11] <NotWug> what do you think this is, easter?
#643 [19:11] <Pepper> It's obviously NotWug day
#644 [19:11] <NotWug> for the record, if you ever see someone with a .rit.edu hostname
#645 [19:12] <NotWug> automatically assume its me
#646 [19:12] <Pepper> Yeah
#647 [19:12] <NotWug> unless proven otherwise, its me trolling
#648 [19:12] <Pepper> This client doesn't show hosts on join
#649 [19:12] <NotWug> I do this a lot, im getting pretty good at pretending to be clueless
#650 [19:13] <NotWug> call it your monthly performance review :>
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#655 [19:30] <rgregory> Hi folks, can't seem to complete the purchase process -- fails for multiple cards and paypal. Known issue?
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#657 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> I'd first start off with calling your bank and asking about:
#658 [19:33] <rgregory> Certain I'm good there.
#659 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> :payment/stopped
#660 [19:33] <WugBot> payment/stopped: Banks, credit card companies, etc. frequently stop minecraft purchases for your protection because they are international transactions. You may have to call your financial institution and ask that they approve the transfer.
#661 [19:33] <WugBot> payment/stopped: If you're not sure what to say, tell them: "I would like to make an international purchase and payment is being declined. How would I go about approving the purchase?"
#662 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> We've seen this issue crop up quite frequently here.
#663 [19:34] <rgregory> Ah, thanks. I'd assume paypal does the same nonsense? I *have* had problems with my bank and making International purchases. Annoying.
#664 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> It's all dependent on your bank and what you used to pay for the purchase.
#665 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> Many credit cards have this feature to protect the consumer from fraud.
#666 [19:35] <rgregory> *nod* We've had some issues previously.
#667 [19:35] <rgregory> thanks Grey.
#668 [19:35] * GreyVulpine nods
#668 [19:36] <rgregory> I'd hoped Paypal wouldn't have the same issue, so it's frustrating (especially since my son is anxious to get started)
#669 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> Heh, I completely understand.
#670 [19:40] <rgregory> he's watching youtube videos and how to trap zombies ;p
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#672 [19:46] <Omega_Guardian> they should have an easy way to approve the purchase though
#673 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Generally, you'll need to call up the bank and talk to customer service.
#674 [19:48] <Omega_Guardian> what if it's one of those pre-paid gift cards?
#675 [19:48] <rgregory> Well, it's BOA, and they generally do approve the purchase, but then contact me directly, and now the message indicates that all credit card/debit purchases are disabled for the time being
#676 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> ?? prepaid
#677 [19:48] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#678 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Same deal. You'll need to talk to customer service, but we generally see prepaid/gift cards not working for minecraft purchases
#679 [19:49] <rgregory> No, no prepaid here. Standard VISA, then tried Amex, then the paypal account (the nine year old is anxious ;p)
#680 [19:49] <rgregory> *nod*
#681 [19:49] <Omega_Guardian> thats what I was hoping there was a way to fix it for, though in my case already have Minecraft
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#683 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> The "... purchases being disabled for 24 hours" is a moneybookers issue. Prevents repeated purchases through them. Wouldn't affect purchases done through paypal.
#684 [19:51] <rgregory> hrrm, ok.
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#686 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> Were you trying to purchase minecraft with money in a paypal account, or with a credit card through paypal?
#687 [19:52] <rgregory> It's a CC attached to Paypal
#688 [19:52] <Magiobiwan> Aww... My bouncer is out of order again.
#689 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> Ah, yeah, then you would need to call up the CC to get it straightened out.
#690 [19:53] <rgregory> *sigh* looking that way
#691 [19:58] <rgregory> Thanks all.
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#697 [20:11] <Omega_Guardian> Leaving Sarumon out of the last movie was unforgiveable :P Especially when they showed bits of the cut scenes in the trailer :P
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#700 [20:18] <Confuddled> I need help
#701 [20:19] <Confuddled> We have a hacker that keeps hacking our minecraft smp console
#702 [20:19] <Confuddled> >_<
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#707 [20:40] <Cruplezone> hello?
#708 [20:40] <Cruplezone> um..
#709 [20:41] <Cruplezone> ..is anyone there to help?
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#712 [20:44] <WoM-Guest> hello?
#713 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> Hi
#714 [20:46] <WoM-Guest> yay!
#715 [20:46] <WoM-Guest> can you help me with my server?
#716 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps
#717 [20:47] <WoM-Guest> i want to convert my hamachi minecraft server to normal so people without hamachi can join
#718 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Just as simple as port forwarding
#719 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> Happen to have teamviewer?
#720 [20:48] <WoM-Guest> ya
#721 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> Mind running it and giving me the info so I can set it up for you?
#722 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Or not
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#725 [20:51] <WoM-Guest> hey again
#726 [20:51] <WoM-Guest> its me again
#727 [20:51] <WoM-Guest> sry
#728 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> Mind running teamviewer and giving me the info so I can set it up for you?
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#730 [20:51] <WoM-Guest> teamviewer
#731 [20:51] <WoM-Guest> ya syre
#732 [20:53] <WoM-Guest> ok
#733 [20:53] <WoM-Guest> so its open
#734 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> PM me the info?
#735 [20:53] <WoM-Guest> and i do that how again
#736 [20:53] <WoM-Guest> ;
#737 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> /msg GreyVulpine Whatever_you_want_to_PM_with_here
#738 [20:55] <WoM-Guest> did i work?
#739 [20:55] <WoM-Guest> it*
#740 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes, one moment
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#744 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> You still there WoM-Guest?
#745 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Okay then
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#767 [23:33] <Zodel> Is this where I can come to for securing aid in creating my own LAN minecraft server?
#768 [23:36] <DiskDaemon> The good people in #minecraft should be able to help with that
#769 [23:36] <Zodel> Thank you.
#770 [23:36] <Zodel> Thank you.
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#772 [23:37] <Scott> wat...
#773 [23:38] <Scott> This is the support channel, not #minecraft.
#774 [23:38] <Halicarnassus> was about to say
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#776 [23:38] <DiskDaemon> .tell Zodal My apologies, #minecrafthelp is the right place for LAN server help
#777 [23:38] <Scott> .mode +o Scott
#778 [23:38] <Scott> .mode Scott +o
#779 [23:38] <Zodel> Apology accepted, albeit unrequired. :)
#780 [23:38] <Scott> Kealper: can has access to bot?
#781 [23:39] <Scott> Oh thanks.
#782 [23:39] <Scott> Someone should just add me to services lol
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#785 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> Zodel - Could you elaborate further on what help you're looking for?
#786 [23:42] <Zodel> Well first, just so I dont waste anyones time. Would I be able to get help with adding a few mods as well, or is this for vanilla only?
#787 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> We generally help with vanilla here. With modded server software, you may be better off asking in #bukkit or #canary
#788 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> What kind of mods/plugins are you looking at?
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#790 [23:44] <Zodel> I didnt know I had to use bukkit. I was only going to install Treecapitator and a weapons mod to add halberds, knives and so forth. But to do that, I had to install Modloaded, ModloaderMP and something called Forge... And from there my brain broke.
#791 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Oi, yeah.
#792 [23:47] <Zodel> Im thinking it may just be easier to keep the mods out of it, however.
#793 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> With Modloader/modloaderMP/forge mods, you basically need to mod both the minecraft.jar of your client, as well as the minecraft_server.jar with the mod's files
#794 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Anybody that wants to join your server, would need to mod their minecraft.jar with the same files as well
#795 [23:49] <Zodel> Thats alright. We're all in the same house, and it wouldnt be hard to give it to them over the homegroup.
#796 [23:50] <Zodel> Or I could just mod one jar file, and give it to them to avoid issues.
#797 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> So then, what part of modding are you having problems with?
#798 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Or walk me through what you're trying to do, and where you're stuck.
#799 [23:53] <Zodel> Putting it all into the jar, I guess. I downloaded everything I wanted to put it, then kind of just... Slammed it all into the servers Jar file. Which apparantly corrupted it and made it unable to work.
#800 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> You would need to download modloader 1.2.4 from http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/75440-v124-risugamis-mods-everything-updated/ -- Put that into your .minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar file
#801 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Then download the Forge client API file from http://lexmanos.no-ip.org:8080/job/Forge/Recommended/ -- Put that into yuor minecraft.jar file
#802 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> For the server, you would download ModloaderMP, put that into the minecraft_server.jar file. Do the same for the Forge Server API files.
#803 [23:55] <Zodel> So Risugami's mod loader goes into my personal Jar file and is left out of serverside?
#804 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> Then comes any modloader/modloadermp/forge dependent mods you want to install.
#805 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> Right
#806 [23:56] <Zodel> And any mod I put into the server, also needs to go into the personal jar file?
#807 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> Remember to delete the Meta-INF folder from the .jar when you install any mods.
#808 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> You need to split up, and determine which files need to be in the client, and which are in the server.
#809 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> Modloader is for the minecraft.jar, modloaderMP is for the minecraft_server.jar
#810 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Forge Client API is for the minecraft.jar, Forge Server API is for the minecraft_server.jar
#811 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Depending on the actual mods, you'll need to put some files into the client, and some for the server
#812 [23:57] <DrPepper> MLMP goes in the client too, btw
#813 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> Gah, I forgot about that.
#814 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> DrPepper is right. MLMP has server and client files.
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