#1 [00:00] <sugoi> standard a->b->c double nat?
#2 [00:00] <sugoi> had he confused anything?
#3 [00:00] <sugoi> i mean...configured it wrong?
#4 [00:00] <sugoi> or was it just incomplete?
#5 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> He had configured router 2 -> computer correctly, just needed router 1 -> router 2 set up
#6 [00:01] <sugoi> i see
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#10 [00:19] <Willdog1993> Help!
#11 [00:20] <Willdog1993> Can someone help me
#12 [00:20] <WugBot> Willdog1993: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
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#14 [00:21] <Willdog1993> Every time I try to open Minecraft.exe I get this message "Could not create the Java virtual machine."
#15 [00:21] <Wug> did it work before
#16 [00:21] <Willdog1993> yes, yes it did.
#17 [00:22] <Wug> have you updated java recently
#18 [00:22] <Willdog1993> just updated it.
#19 [00:22] <Wug> would you say that updating java broke it
#20 [00:22] <Willdog1993> Maybe, it was doing the same thing before I updated it.
#21 [00:23] <Wug> it probably didnt then. do you have a 64 bit computer?
#22 [00:24] <Willdog1993> dont know
#23 [00:24] <Wug> :win/info > Willdog1993
#24 [00:24] <WugBot> Willdog1993: (win/info) Press the Win+pause keys. This will bring up the Windows System Information.
#25 [00:24] <Willdog1993> what do I look for
#26 [00:24] <DiskDaemon> System Type will show "x64-based PC" if you have one
#27 [00:25] <Willdog1993> then no, it doesn't show that.
#28 [00:25] <Wug> what version of java did you install
#29 [00:25] <Wug> when you updated
#30 [00:25] <Willdog1993> V6 Update 31
#31 [00:26] <Wug> there are newer versions available as it turns out
#32 [00:26] <Wug> can you open add/remove programs and remove all installed versions of java
#33 [00:26] <Willdog1993> hm, could you send me a link?
#34 [00:27] <Wug> :j7
#35 [00:27] <WugBot> j7: You can try java 7 here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-7u2-download-1377135.html
#36 [00:27] <Wug> link is out of date, hang on
#37 [00:27] <Wug> Willdog1993: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-7u3-download-1501631.html
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#39 [00:29] <Wug> Willdog1993: make sure you uninstall the old versions before installing the new one
#40 [00:29] <Willdog1993> I just finished un-installing Java, I need the link again.
#41 [00:31] <Willdog1993> Wug, I need the link.
#42 [00:31] <Wug> :j7
#43 [00:31] <WugBot> j7: You can try java 7 here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-7u3-download-1501631.html
#44 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> <@Wug> Willdog1993: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-7u3-download-1501631.html
#45 [00:34] <Willdog1993> thanks. Hopefully this works.
#46 [00:34] <Wug> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfjocdYHkws
#47 [00:34] <Wug> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfjocdYHkws
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#50 [00:42] <Willdog1993> Still comes up with the same thing
#51 [00:43] <gracegru> I have been waiting for a day for my activation code to be sent to my email and it still hasn't been sent. I re-entered my username for it to be resent, but that didn't work either :(
#52 [00:45] <Willdog1993> My minecraft.exe still doesn't work.
#53 [00:45] <Wug> gracegru: did you buy a gift code?
#54 [00:46] <Wug> Willdog1993: grab teamviewer
#55 [00:46] <Wug> :tv7
#56 [00:46] <Wug> ;ping
#57 [00:46] <WugBot> Wug: ping
#58 [00:46] <Wug> :tv
#59 [00:46] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#60 [00:46] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
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#62 [00:50] <gracegru> no. I am just registering at this stage
#63 [00:51] <Wug> gracegru: try a different email?
#64 [00:52] <DiskDaemon> There are also very useful help articles about troubleshooting your account at http://help.mojang.com/
#65 [00:53] <DiskDaemon> If it involves payment, this set of articles cover virtually all sitations - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/topics/151617-payment-troubleshooting-/articles
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#67 [00:54] <DiskDaemon> You were saying that your activation code hasn't turned up yet. You may need to check if it has been accidentally considered to be spam, and retrieve it
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#70 [00:58] <Willdog1993> Still doesn't work.
#71 [00:59] <lemon-rev> Willdog1993 what is mc doing what are you seeing ?
#72 [00:59] <Wug> Willdog1993: ok, pull up teamviewer again and ill make a workaround
#73 [00:59] <Magiobiwan> !ip Magiobiwan
#74 [01:00] <Wug> Magiobiwan: ;
#75 [01:00] <Magiobiwan> !dns Magiobiwan
#76 [01:00] <Magiobiwan> Oh.
#77 [01:00] <Magiobiwan> ;ip Magiobiwan
#78 [01:00] <WugBot> IP address of Magiobiwan is: 76.14.252.238
#79 [01:00] <Magiobiwan> !check 76.14.252.238
#80 [01:00] <Magiobiwan> Oh. I bet my sister stopped it.
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#83 [01:02] <Finamenon> anyone know if there is a general cap to the amount of entities and animals that can be active on a server at one point?
#84 [01:02] <Magiobiwan> There. Restarted.
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#86 [01:03] <Magiobiwan> !check 76.14.252.238
#87 [01:03] <Magiobiwan> It's alive :D
#88 [01:03] <gracegru> ok thanks
#89 [01:03] <gracegru> ok thanks
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#91 [01:05] <|Anthony|> !check 76.98.216.77
#92 [01:06] <|Anthony|> lol
#93 [01:08] <Willdog1993> :ts/launcher
#94 [01:08] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#95 [01:08] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#96 [01:09] <Finamenon> damn, no luck here.. ok
#97 [01:09] <Finamenon> my friend wants to make a sheep pen, huge... 8 of each color. I told him he was bananas and that it would probably mess with the cap
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#100 [01:12] <M1n3cr4ftr> my video driver wont update
#101 [01:13] <Wug> M1n3cr4ftr: are you getting an error message when you try?
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#103 [01:15] <DarkReign> anyone able to help me with a log in question?
#104 [01:16] <Wug> DarkReign: fire away
#105 [01:16] <DarkReign> I purchased the game recently, but it still says that I can't log in
#106 [01:16] <DarkReign> whats the usual round trip from purchase to access
#107 [01:16] <Wug> what error message do you get
#108 [01:16] <DarkReign> login failed
#109 [01:16] <Wug> that tends to mean wrong password
#110 [01:17] <Wug> try resetting it:
#111 [01:17] <Wug> :resetpass
#112 [01:17] <WugBot> resetpass: You can reset the password for your minecraft account using the following page: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#113 [01:17] <DarkReign> k I will try it
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#115 [01:18] <DarkReign> thx, that worked
#116 [01:19] <Wug> np
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#123 [02:03] <SinZ> ...My mum is a retard at computers
#124 [02:03] <SinZ> complaining at me that facebook didn't automatically login.
#125 [02:03] <SinZ> and she cant login now, because she doesnt know her password.
#126 [02:05] <Grim_Reaper> lol
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#184 [06:04] <Viking667> really quick question - what channel addresses mods? I know this one isn't (exactly) it, and neither is #minecraft
#185 [06:05] <Viking667> I seem to remember #risugami, but when I go there, it's empty but for me.
#186 [06:05] <DiskDaemon> try #risucraft
#187 [06:06] <Viking667> ahh, That was its name.
#188 [06:07] <Viking667> Sorry, found that about ten seconds before switching back to this irc client.
#189 [06:07] <Viking667> My apologies and thanks.
#190 [06:07] <Viking667> My apologies and thanks.
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#194 [06:11] <varan15> Hallo
#195 [06:12] <varan15> Hey Friends
#196 [06:12] <varan15> Hey Friends
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#219 [09:05] <pablo> Ahoj
#220 [09:06] <pablo> cc
#221 [09:06] <pablo> caw ste tu?
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#225 [09:55] <SS54> hey i brought a give code and i dont received it yet
#226 [09:56] <EyesIsMine> pester mojang
#227 [09:56] <SS54> how
#228 [09:56] <EyesIsMine> er
#229 [09:57] <EyesIsMine> Grey, wakeup
#230 [09:57] <SS54> ?
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#232 [10:00] <SS54> can anyone help me i bright a give code and i dont received it yet
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#234 [10:02] <SS54> can anyone help me i brought a give code and i dont received it yet
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#236 [10:03] <GreyVulpine> Who did you purchase the gift code from?
#237 [10:05] <SS54> i buy it at minecraft.net
#238 [10:05] <SS54> i got the id
#239 [10:05] <SS54> Account
#240 [10:05] <SS54> maximusprime82
#241 [10:05] <SS54> Order
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#243 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> I would first check your profile page after logging into minecraft.net, if the purchase went through, you'll see a gift code listed at the bottom of the page
#244 [10:07] <GreyVulpine> If not, you'll need to first call up your bank or financial institution, make sure the payment has been listed there and has been processed by your bank
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#246 [10:12] <BlackGyver> Hello folks.
#247 [10:13] * GreyVulpine waves.
#247 [10:13] <BlackGyver> Wanted to know if codewarrior's still hanging around on this server
#248 [10:13] <BlackGyver> (The author of MCEdit)
#249 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe so
#250 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> MCedit's been a community-run project for a while now
#251 [10:13] <BlackGyver> Ah, crap.
#252 [10:13] <BlackGyver> :(
#253 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> Latest codebase can be found at the github
#254 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> ?? mcedit
#255 [10:14] <VoxelHead> mcedit: https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#256 [10:15] <BlackGyver> I don't actually want MCEdit, I wanted to hire codewarrior for a DF tool that would share a lot of features with MCedit
#257 [10:15] <BlackGyver> (A fortress design tool, in 3D)
#258 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I haven't seen him around
#259 [10:17] <BlackGyver> Ah, well, thanks anyway, guess I'll try my luck on google
#260 [10:17] <Morrolan> You might be able to find him on Freenode.
#261 [10:18] <Calinou> on freenode there's someone named CodeWarrior, he's not on any channel (or only hidden)
#262 [10:18] <Morrolan> But seeing as your question is related to MCEdit you might be better off by asking its current dev, TKTech.
#263 [10:18] <Calinou> not sure if it's him
#264 [10:18] <Calinou> he's on #minecraft @ irc.freenode.net - about tktech
#265 [10:18] <BlackGyver> Ah, I'll ask him then
#266 [10:18] <BlackGyver> Thanks
#267 [10:18] <Calinou> np
#268 [10:18] <EyesIsMine> * [CodeWarrior] (~hisham@70.86.176.59): Hisham Mardam Bey
#269 [10:18] <EyesIsMine> according to a /whois on freenode
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#271 [10:20] <BlackGyver> Might not be him, the codewarrior I'm thinking about was all lowercase, but I'm asking
#272 [10:20] <BlackGyver> [16:18:12] <Morrolan> But seeing as your question is related to MCEdit you might be better off by asking its current dev, TKTech.
#273 [10:20] <BlackGyver> And thanks, I'll try that too
#274 [10:21] <Morrolan> Ah, if mcedit's codewarrior spelled himself all lowercase then it's most likely not the same one indeed.
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#309 [13:47] <lartza> I've got no sound in minecraft in Linux
#310 [13:47] <Calinou> lartza, what distro do you use?
#311 [13:47] <lartza> ArchLinux, GNOME, PulseAudio
#312 [13:47] <Calinou> updating LWJGL might help
#313 [13:47] <Calinou> derp, pulseaudio. hate that thing.
#314 [13:47] <lartza> Updated lwjgl, removed shipped libopenal.so
#315 [13:47] <Calinou> ...removed?
#316 [13:48] <lartza> To use system-wide newer pulseaudio
#317 [13:48] <Calinou> did you replace with a newer one?
#318 [13:48] <lartza> didnt work with it either
#319 [13:48] <lartza> No
#320 [13:48] <Calinou> personally I use alsa, works better. much.
#321 [13:48] <lartza> Cant use alsa
#322 [13:48] <lartza> GNOME insists PulseAudio :)
#323 [13:48] <Calinou> can you get sound in general?
#324 [13:48] <Calinou> GNOME does work with alsa
#325 [13:48] <lartza> Yes
#326 [13:49] <Calinou> don't know then. try googling around maybe :P
#327 [13:49] <lartza> It uses PulseAudio
#328 [13:49] <lartza> not alsa
#329 [13:49] <lartza> And you cant uninstall pulseaudio to use ALSA
#330 [13:50] <lartza> Well
#331 [13:50] <lartza> You can get it to work I think but
#332 [13:50] <lartza> Only minecraft is failing for now...
#333 [13:50] <Calinou> you use openjdk or sun's java? version?
#334 [13:51] <Calinou> java 7 is still experimental and shouldn't be used for "normal" purposes
#335 [13:51] <Calinou> also, sun's java often works best
#336 [13:51] <lartza> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_03-b04)
#337 [13:51] <lartza> So 7, but it has worked fine since last year
#338 [13:52] <lartza> Just with a different install
#339 [13:52] <lartza> And Oracle not openjdk yeah
#340 [13:52] <Calinou> does it happen if you use java 6?
#341 [13:53] <lartza> I don't know I...
#342 [13:53] <lartza> just a sec...
#343 [13:54] <Calinou> download it from java's website, put anywhere, create a .sh file to start minecraft and change the java path
#344 [13:54] <Calinou> I'm sure you know anyway (you're on arch. 8)
#345 [13:54] <lartza> Yeah
#346 [13:54] <lartza> stupid oracle pulling linux license...
#347 [13:55] <Calinou> I used ubuntu 10.04/11.04/11.10, gnome 2/3, ALSA (pretty sure I did, didn't change it anyways), sound always has worked fine.
#348 [13:55] <Calinou> no "sound cutting" problems
#349 [13:55] <Calinou> but 11.10 sucks :P
#350 [13:56] <lartza> Actually not sure how I can get it to look for java environment from somewhere else? :P
#351 [13:56] <lartza> Well I might know but...
#352 [13:57] <lartza> let me see if this works
#353 [13:57] <Calinou> put that in a shell file, "/path/to/java -options file.jar"
#354 [13:58] <Calinou> should work. or you could change system's default, but I never used arch, too complicated for me 8)
#355 [13:58] <lartza> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH worked
#356 [13:58] <lartza> and sound worked actually
#357 [13:58] <lartza> but...
#358 [13:58] <lartza> Java 7 usually has worked better overall for me with minecraft
#359 [13:59] <Calinou> when I tried to use it, MC didn't even start :P
#360 [13:59] <lartza> It's actually faster and uses less memory for me
#361 [13:59] <Calinou> it's russian roulette. on some computers it works well, on some it doesn't even work at all
#362 [13:59] <lartza> With a older PC I had some time ago
#363 [14:00] <Calinou> so sound works? or not?
#364 [14:00] <lartza> Calinou: Actually sound works with java 7 too now...
#365 [14:00] <Calinou> hah. remember minecraft downloads the resources "live"
#366 [14:00] <Calinou> while the game runs, some resources may be "locked" to be downloaded
#367 [14:00] <Calinou> resources = sounds
#368 [14:00] <lartza> Yeah but... eveyrhitng?
#369 [14:01] <lartza> I mean the menu click sound, punching leaves and ground, animals
#370 [14:01] <Calinou> the sounds are not in minecraft.jar they're in a separate folder
#371 [14:01] <lartza> Nothing of those worked
#372 [14:01] <lartza> I know ;)
#373 [14:01] <Calinou> "menu click" not being played is because the sound system isn't initialized. it takes a few seconds :P
#374 [14:01] <Calinou> grass walking is known to not make sounds sometimes
#375 [14:01] <Calinou> it's the first sound to be checked for download maybe
#376 [14:01] <lartza> Yeah but I created the world and everything and did things on the world then exited and still no sond and openal was initialized :)
#377 [14:02] <Calinou> try starting minecraft in a terminal, maybe paste the output somewhere.
#378 [14:02] <Calinou> and look at what it says
#379 [14:02] <lartza> I am starting it on terminal and it is saying nothing bad except when I quti the game it is a black screen with error :)
#380 [14:03] <Calinou> hmm; what graphics card/drivers do you have?
#381 [14:05] <lartza> Radeon HD5500
#382 [14:05] <lartza> But dont worry its just a exit crash :P
#383 [14:05] <lartza> I cant record the game with GLC though...
#384 [14:06] <Calinou> AMD. :/
#385 [14:06] <lartza> Yeah
#386 [14:06] <Calinou> never used it, #1 reason: its drivers suck
#387 [14:06] <lartza> I dont use them z3
#388 [14:06] <lartza> *<3
#389 [14:06] <lartza> x11-video-ati
#390 [14:06] <lartza> :)
#391 [14:06] <Calinou> meh, I speak of AMD + linux in general
#392 [14:06] <lartza> != catalyst/fglrx
#393 [14:06] <lartza> :P
#394 [14:06] <Calinou> nvidia has always worked better for linux. proprietary drivers ftw, finally comparable with windows performance
#395 [14:07] <lartza> yeah but the problem is nouveau has worse performance than open ATI drivers for me atleast
#396 [14:07] <lartza> but nvidia driver has no KMS etc.
#397 [14:07] <Calinou> I don't care if stuff is open source or not. MC itself is proprietary
#398 [14:07] <Calinou> KMS?
#399 [14:07] <lartza> Kernel Mode Setting
#400 [14:08] <Calinou> what does that do? :P
#401 [14:08] <lartza> framebuffering for instance
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#407 [14:23] <sugoi> larwhat distro?
#408 [14:24] <|Anthony|> does anyone else get annoyed that updates break compatibility?
#409 [14:24] <sugoi> |Anthony|: with what? mods?
#410 [14:25] <sugoi> or client-server connections?
#411 [14:25] <|Anthony|> all of it... client-server connections, client mods, server mods, texture packs
#412 [14:25] <|Anthony|> all of it
#413 [14:25] <sugoi> haha
#414 [14:25] <sugoi> honestly? i'm quite envious mojang acn do it
#415 [14:25] <|Anthony|> least you can laugh about it
#416 [14:25] <sugoi> can*
#417 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> Nope. I love updates. More features, more bug fixes, progression in a game is what keeps it alive.
#418 [14:26] <|Anthony|> agreed, but there is no version control... like all 1.2.x versions should be compatible and the .x should be bug fixes only
#419 [14:27] <sugoi> |Anthony|: i'm a programmer, and we spend SOOO much time coddling our customers with backwards compatability
#420 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> Texture packs are compatible across 1.2.x versions, barring new blocks
#421 [14:27] <sugoi> we have huge amounts of efforts in our code to load old packages in legacy modes, and have a web of conversion models
#422 [14:27] <sugoi> it's a mess
#423 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> 1.2.5 is actually backwards compatible with 1.2.4, last I checked
#424 [14:28] <sugoi> |Anthony|: i agree with you there, there should be minor-version updates that are ignored by mods, server-clients, etc
#425 [14:28] <|Anthony|> imo the third level revision number should be reserved for bug fixes. the second level version number should be for those block updates which would break compat
#426 [14:29] <|Anthony|> meh... i just posted a poll topic on the forums to get an idea from the community
#427 [14:29] <|Anthony|> commiserating i guess
#428 [14:29] <|Anthony|> :/
#429 [14:29] <sugoi> :)
#430 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> I don't agree. Let Mojang do what they need to do to improve the game. Don't tie their hands behind their back with some silly versioning requirement
#431 [14:31] <sugoi> i don't want to tie their hands, just saying i wish they would follow that model - it's not alient to software development
#432 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Mods aren't compatible because there's no Mojang-backed modding API. That's still in the works. Mods break because modders are unofficially modifying the obsfucated source code
#433 [14:31] <|Anthony|> why would they release new features and introduce new bugs foregoing bug fixes
#434 [14:31] <|Anthony|> the list of known bugs is...
#435 [14:31] <|Anthony|> long
#436 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> And your list of actual bug fixes has never decreased?
#437 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> er, increased?
#438 [14:32] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: good point, it would only be a model for client-server protocol, and file formats i suppose
#439 [14:32] <sugoi> either way, moot point
#440 [14:32] <sugoi> moot topic* -- it's not going to change
#441 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> I mean, maps are backwards and forwards compatible. So are texture packs to a point. HD texture packs aren't part of the vanilla development, so that's not a valid argument
#442 [14:33] <sugoi> |Anthony|: the good news is the server component is working with bukkit, so we will begin to see mods using an official api
#443 [14:33] <sugoi> which will greatly improve turn around time
#444 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> As for mods, the Mojang-backed mod API was still in the pipeline, as well as hiring the bukkit core team
#445 [14:34] <|Anthony|> i concede that modding is not officially supported by mojang yet, just saying that bug fixes should not break client-server and that bug fixes should be relegated to the third level revision number
#446 [14:35] <Morrolan> I don't think there's any use in arguing about Minecraft's version numbering. That one is.... strange, to put it nicely.
#447 [14:35] <|Anthony|> lol... some might even argue that the introduction of a modding api in the code base would warrant a major version number change
#448 [14:36] <sugoi> |Anthony|: is there a mod to have the server mask version numbers for different clients?
#449 [14:36] <|Anthony|> 0.o
#450 [14:36] <|Anthony|> that would be interesting
#451 [14:36] <|Anthony|> haven't looked into that
#452 [14:36] <sugoi> i'm sure it is quite unreliable, but might work in some cases :)
#453 [14:37] <|Anthony|> lol... i figured this topic would bring out some polar opposite positions
#454 [14:37] <sugoi> nah
#455 [14:37] <sugoi> only my opinion is right
#456 [14:37] <|Anthony|> :)
#457 [14:37] <Morrolan> sugoi - This would require a _lot_ of work. The protocol changes quite a bit between releases.
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#459 [14:37] <sugoi> Morrolan: not every time
#460 [14:37] <sugoi> ergo, "unreliable"
#461 [14:38] <|Anthony|> just seems like mojang is still in a "Beta release" mindset
#462 [14:38] <|Anthony|> updates happen as available, not in a planned roadmap sort of way
#463 [14:39] <|Anthony|> w/e
#464 [14:39] <Morrolan> sugoi - Still. Even one packet changing just a bit would, in order not to crash old clients, require the server to send packets according to the client's version.
#465 [14:39] <sugoi> i'm with you, i get it, trust me
#466 [14:39] <Morrolan> Ofcourse you could just go like "Oh, screw it, I don't mind clients crashing" ^^
#467 [14:40] <sugoi> |Anthony|: actually i love fast updates
#468 [14:40] <sugoi> i run two servers for that reason
#469 [14:40] <sugoi> bukkit and vanilla
#470 [14:40] <sugoi> my users know they can update and go to vanilla (latest)
#471 [14:40] <sugoi> and my bukkit server updates very slowly, to make sure the mods are stable
#472 [14:41] <|Anthony|> what version is your bukkit server?
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#474 [14:42] <sugoi> |Anthony|: then what i do (my bukkit server is 1.2.3 atm) - is when bukkit updates to the next version, i pull in the vanilla's world
#475 [14:42] <sugoi> i use multiverse for this
#476 [14:42] <sugoi> so work they have is saved and added to the bukkit universe
#477 [14:42] <sugoi> if they care to play in vanilla for a while
#478 [14:42] <Morrolan> Whereas the work of those who stayed on the Bukkit server gets wiped? :)
#479 [14:42] <|Anthony|> lol
#480 [14:43] <sugoi> no, there is a sync up
#481 [14:43] <Morrolan> Out of curiosity, it's a semi-private server I guess?
#482 [14:43] <Morrolan> Ah, okay.
#483 [14:43] <sugoi> typically bukkit (and mods) update before vanilla updates again
#484 [14:43] <sugoi> so merging is simple
#485 [14:44] <sugoi> if not, i either mcedit the mess, or just aggregate a new universe
#486 [14:44] <sugoi> heh
#487 [14:44] <|Anthony|> well, if anyone is interested, here is the poll
#488 [14:44] <|Anthony|> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1137135-minecraft-release-schedule/
#489 [14:44] <|Anthony|> flaming me is... anticipated
#490 [14:44] <sugoi> but MOST work is done in the bukkit worlds, vanilla is just for those (by experience, not rule) who want to play with new features
#491 [14:44] <Morrolan> Seeing as how the Bukkit team switched to Mojang some of these issues won't persist too long anymore.
#492 [14:44] <|Anthony|> but please be kind
#493 [14:44] <sugoi> Morrolan: yeah, private
#494 [14:45] <Morrolan> sugoi - Ah, then running an unmodified server won't prove much of an issue. :)
#495 [14:45] <Morrolan> I don't dare imagine how the world would look like after a few days of unprotected, eeeh.
#496 [14:45] <Morrolan> building.
#497 [14:45] <sugoi> well it is whitelisted and on a non default port
#498 [14:45] <|Anthony|> griefers gone wild
#499 [14:46] <sugoi> is that what you mean by private?
#500 [14:46] <sugoi> i whitelist mostly for language
#501 [14:46] <sugoi> i want friends and their children to feel comfortable playing with other people they don't know
#502 [14:46] <Morrolan> Yea, that's pretty much what I mean by private.
#503 [14:47] * Grim_Reaper hugs Morrolan
#503 [14:47] * Morrolan hugs Grim_Reaper
#503 [14:47] <Morrolan> That was quite some time since the last one. ;)
#504 [14:50] <NinjaKirby> Nice thread Anthony, thumbs up
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#506 [14:51] <NinjaKirby> I play Vanilla, and I anticipated this was a pain-in-the-ass for some people.
#507 [14:51] <nikkiefield> hello
#508 [14:51] <|Anthony|> thank you NinjaKirby :)
#509 [14:52] <nikkiefield> hello?
#510 [14:52] <NinjaKirby> Hey there Nikkifield
#511 [14:52] <sugoi> nikkiefield: hello. if you have a question, feel free to ask
#512 [14:53] <nikkiefield> i have problems with minecraft
#513 [14:53] <sugoi> nikkiefield: just ask the question
#514 [14:53] <nikkiefield> can you help
#515 [14:53] <NinjaKirby> lol, inb4 troll
#516 [14:53] * sugoi grumbles
#516 [14:53] <NinjaKirby> Called for dinner, afk
#517 [14:53] <nikkiefield> how do you install mod loader correctly?
#518 [14:54] <sugoi> nikkiefield: firstly, this channel helps primarily with vanilla issues, see #bukkit or #risucraft for mod questions, secondly, mods have web sites with faq/wiki/guides that can help
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#520 [14:55] <nikkiefield> oh sorry
#521 [14:55] <edmiester777> when does minecraft 1.2.5 come out?
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#523 [14:55] <sugoi> thirdly, modloader is a collection of class files you dump into your minecraft.jar, use a tool like 7zip to open the jar (as it is a compressed file like a zip), and copy+paste the modloader class files into there
#524 [14:55] <sugoi> edmiester777: you can pull the snapshot before the 'official' release time
#525 [14:56] <sugoi> and afaik, the official release dates are not listed for updates like that
#526 [14:56] <edmiester777> when is the release? i need to begin updating my mod installer and server creator
#527 [14:57] <edmiester777> oh haha i didnt read the post above ^^
#528 [14:57] <sugoi> did you ignore my answer? also, you can pull the snapshots now to get an idea of what is coming
#529 [14:57] <sugoi> ok :)
#530 [14:57] <edmiester777> sorry lol
#531 [14:57] <edmiester777> sorry lol
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#542 [16:21] <Blaank> Can I get a link to technic pack IRC channel? The one posted on their FAQ is not working.
#543 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> That would be the one that we would look up as well.
#544 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> If it's not working, then try asking the creator of the modpack
#545 [16:23] <Blaank> Is profanity allowed here?
#546 [16:24] <sugoi> Blaank: haha, we prefer you don't
#547 [16:24] <Blaank> ...... ok, they didn't put irc. or .net on their irc channel name. that's why it wouldn't connect
#548 [16:25] <sugoi> Blaank: oh, you meen the hyperlink's url was incomplete?
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#550 [16:25] <Blaank> it wasn't even a link
#551 [16:25] <Blaank> IRC on synirc # Technic
#552 [16:25] <Blaank> it's irc.synirc.net # technic
#553 [16:26] <sugoi> that seems sufficient to me - well okay, esper is irc.esper.net and freenode is niven.freenode.net (tho there are multiple)
#554 [16:27] <sugoi> sometimes ppl use the irc name, and not a specific host as there can be >1
#555 [16:27] <sugoi> so, "synirc" would refer to any irc server in that group
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#557 [16:29] <Blaank> Thank you for having the intent to help someone. I'll be going.
#558 [16:29] <Blaank> Thank you for having the intent to help someone. I'll be going.
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#562 [16:38] <Grim_Reaper> Night
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#580 [18:00] <n3rdy> hi
#581 [18:00] <n3rdy> anyone there?
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#585 [18:13] <hawki> hi guys.. i have a problem with minecraft.. I cannot install java (it says in system> programms that i have java 6 uptade 31 installed.. but i cant uninstall it neither can i install the new java on the website.. can you help me?
#586 [18:13] <xales> What does it say when you try to install it?
#587 [18:14] <hawki> nothingl... and i think it is error 9.. and they say on the java site that nobody knows a fix for error 9...
#588 [18:14] <hawki> and rerolling the system doesnt help because i have java like this for 1ßß years..
#589 [18:16] * xales pokes Wug
#589 [18:17] * Wug recognizes a horrible borked java when he reads about one
#589 [18:17] <Wug> :tv > hawki
#590 [18:17] <WugBot> hawki: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#591 [18:17] <WugBot> hawki: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
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#593 [18:20] <M1n3cr4ftr> i need help with updating my video driver, I updated last week and it worked exept that java 64 bit wouldnt work, im not sure if i got the right one
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#595 [18:23] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: what do you mean "java 64 bit wouldn't work"
#596 [18:23] <sugoi> can you clarify that?
#597 [18:25] <M1n3cr4ftr> minecraft wouldnt run if i had java 64 installed
#598 [18:26] <sugoi> did you get an error?
#599 [18:26] <M1n3cr4ftr> yes
#600 [18:26] <sugoi> that could help in your clarification
#601 [18:26] <sugoi> :)
#602 [18:26] <M1n3cr4ftr> java came up with an error
#603 [18:26] <sugoi> which was?
#604 [18:27] <M1n3cr4ftr> erm
#605 [18:27] <M1n3cr4ftr> something like it couldnt find cache files or something i forget
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#607 [18:27] <M1n3cr4ftr> I asked on here and gave them the error but they basically gave up
#608 [18:27] <n3rdy> hello?
#609 [18:28] <sugoi> n3rdy: if you have a question, just ask - someone may try to answer
#610 [18:28] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: did you have the same username back then?
#611 [18:28] <M1n3cr4ftr> no
#612 [18:28] <n3rdy> im trying to make a server for me and my buddys
#613 [18:28] <M1n3cr4ftr> i was cooldude :D
#614 [18:28] <n3rdy> but thay cant get on
#615 [18:28] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: do you by chance remember the user... ok
#616 [18:28] <NinjaKirby> lol
#617 [18:28] <NinjaKirby> Cooldude, welcome back mayne
#618 [18:29] <M1n3cr4ftr> im chatting with acer support atm to :)
#619 [18:29] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: you never gave a pastebin?
#620 [18:30] <M1n3cr4ftr> pastebin isnt very usefull
#621 [18:30] <n3rdy> im trying to make a server for me and my buddys but thay cant get on
#622 [18:30] <sugoi> the text i see, M1n3cr4ftr, is your efforts to get a driver
#623 [18:31] <n3rdy> thay have the game and the servers up
#624 [18:31] <sugoi> n3rdy: just wait for someone to help, i'm focusing on M1n3cr4ftr atm
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#626 [18:31] <n3rdy> kk
#627 [18:31] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: were you able to update your driver?
#628 [18:31] <sugoi> and that now works on 32?
#629 [18:31] <sugoi> n3rdy: can you log into your server on a different computer in the LAN?
#630 [18:31] <M1n3cr4ftr> yes it worked, i restored my computer to the day before tho
#631 [18:31] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: so you're on the old gpu driver now?
#632 [18:32] <M1n3cr4ftr> yes
#633 [18:32] <sugoi> and using java 32 bit?
#634 [18:32] <M1n3cr4ftr> i have java 64 and 32 installed
#635 [18:32] <sugoi> and both work on the old gpu driver?
#636 [18:32] <M1n3cr4ftr> ye
#637 [18:32] <sugoi> then what is the issue?
#638 [18:32] <sugoi> you want better fps with a new gpu driver?
#639 [18:33] <M1n3cr4ftr> yes, it was to fix the lighting bug i have where chests and hand spaz between shades
#640 [18:33] <sugoi> n3rdy: did you see my question?
#641 [18:33] <sugoi> spazy hands, eh? :)
#642 [18:33] <M1n3cr4ftr> yep :D
#643 [18:33] <sugoi> and with the gpu update, 32 works, and 64 gives you an error
#644 [18:34] <n3rdy> well i dont know
#645 [18:34] <n3rdy> this is the only pc in the house with minecraft on it 0_0
#646 [18:34] <sugoi> n3rdy: that's okay
#647 [18:34] <n3rdy> and all the other pc's in the house
#648 [18:34] <sugoi> n3rdy: can you log into the server on that same machine using localhsot?
#649 [18:34] <M1n3cr4ftr> yep heres the prob i have but on the newest minecraft http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stPUoZfF394
#650 [18:34] <n3rdy> arent strong anoth to handle minecraft
#651 [18:34] <Wug> wha's going on here
#652 [18:34] * Wug backread
#652 [18:35] <sugoi> n3rdy: can you log in to localhost on the same pc?
#653 [18:35] <n3rdy> no
#654 [18:35] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: i wouldn't know what to fix without the error in detail
#655 [18:35] <M1n3cr4ftr> :( k
#656 [18:35] <sugoi> n3rdy: what happens?
#657 [18:35] <n3rdy> i do not have that and i dont know what that is 0_0
#658 [18:35] <sugoi> n3rdy: oh, ok
#659 [18:35] <sugoi> n3rdy: on the machine with the server running, start minecraft up
#660 [18:35] <M1n3cr4ftr> i gave it to grey vulpine in chat im pretty sure
#661 [18:36] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: as 'cooldude' ?
#662 [18:36] <Wug> M1n3cr4ftr: you had the lighting bug
#663 [18:36] <Wug> so you updated the driver which fixed it..
#664 [18:36] <Wug> then you restored the old one?
#665 [18:36] <sugoi> Wug: and then (with the gpu update) he says java 32bit worked but java 64 did not
#666 [18:37] <M1n3cr4ftr> yes becaue minecraft wouldnt run with 64 java and i was scared :)
#667 [18:37] <sugoi> but he doesn't have the details of the error java spit out
#668 [18:37] <Wug> you should try to update it again then
#669 [18:37] <Wug> I bet I can fix the java issue
#670 [18:37] <M1n3cr4ftr> im dling the driver right now, some acer support person gave it to me
#671 [18:38] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: loadlibrary failed with rror 126 the specified moduule coud ot be found
#672 [18:38] <M1n3cr4ftr> thats it!
#673 [18:38] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: plus a lot of pms on your part
#674 [18:39] <sugoi> Wug: that's all the info i found (relevent) in the logs ^
#675 [18:39] <sugoi> 64bit says that, 32 worked
#676 [18:39] <sugoi> only after gpu driver update
#677 [18:40] <sugoi> but we'll see if this one directly from acer chat is different
#678 [18:40] <M1n3cr4ftr> yea...30 mins dl time left
#679 [18:40] <Wug> I can probably fix that
#680 [18:40] <Wug> you're on an amd gpu arent you
#681 [18:40] <M1n3cr4ftr> yea
#682 [18:40] <M1n3cr4ftr> or
#683 [18:40] <Wug> its probably the .dll thing
#684 [18:40] <Wug> caused by amd's shitty drivers being shitty
#685 [18:40] <M1n3cr4ftr> well its amd graphics card if thats what a gpu is
#686 [18:41] <Wug> pardon my french
#687 [18:41] <Wug> yeah
#688 [18:42] <M1n3cr4ftr> I really hope I can get this working, minecraft ran so fast when I updated
#689 [18:43] <sugoi> n3rdy: did you start minecraft up ?
#690 [18:43] <n3rdy> did ages ago yes
#691 [18:44] <sugoi> n3rdy: haha, ok -- go to "multiplayer", then "add server"
#692 [18:44] <n3rdy> ok then?
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#694 [18:45] <sugoi> n3rdy: sorry, multitasking here (At work)
#695 [18:45] <n3rdy> lol
#696 [18:45] <sugoi> n3rdy: the 'name' doesn't matter, for host use "localhost" (without the quotes)
#697 [18:46] <sugoi> then accept that, and in the next screen, try to connect
#698 [18:46] <n3rdy> nope
#699 [18:46] <n3rdy> nothing
#700 [18:47] <sugoi> then the server isn't running on that machien
#701 [18:47] <sugoi> machine*
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#703 [18:47] <sugoi> if you give me a few minutes, i can teamviewer help to figure this out fast
#704 [18:48] <sugoi> or someone with more time can walk you through it
#705 [18:48] <n3rdy> dont have teamviewer :/
#706 [18:48] <sugoi> they have a standalone app (no install)
#707 [18:48] <sugoi> if that is acceptable for you
#708 [18:48] <n3rdy> yea sure i guess
#709 [18:48] <n3rdy> wait
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#711 [18:49] <n3rdy> i have to make an account dont i -_-
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#713 [18:49] <sugoi> no
#714 [18:49] <NinjaKirby> You know you want to, because that is the right thing to do.
#715 [18:49] <sugoi> ;tv
#716 [18:49] <sugoi> :(
#717 [18:49] <sugoi> ; tv
#718 [18:49] <sugoi> ;tv
#719 [18:49] <sugoi> bah!
#720 [18:49] <M1n3cr4ftr> lol
#721 [18:50] <Wug> :tv
#722 [18:50] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#723 [18:50] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#724 [18:50] <sugoi> ;, :
#725 [18:50] <NinjaKirby> Wugs got it in hand... you're my Role model, Wug
#726 [18:51] * M1n3cr4ftr tips hat to wug
#726 [18:51] <sugoi> n3rdy: so /msg sugoi blah blah
#727 [18:51] <sugoi> when you have teamviewer running
#728 [18:55] * Wug is a model roller
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#729 [18:56] <M1n3cr4ftr> once I have the winrar file of the driver downloaded what do i do?
#730 [18:56] <M1n3cr4ftr> I want to make sure i do it right :)
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#732 [18:59] <M1n3cr4ftr> ill be back when driver id downloaded
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#735 [19:05] <MrEpicGoat> Hey, this isn't really a technical question but I need some advice with a Minecraft server
#736 [19:05] <MrEpicGoat> How do I find a decent admin for it
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#738 [19:10] <Schmoop> Can somebody help me please?
#739 [19:10] <WugBot> Schmoop: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#740 [19:11] <Schmoop> I don't have minecraft downloaded -- and I don't plan to, and so I play in browser. So whenever I open the 'Minecraft.net/play' nothing loads. The box saying that Java is launching it's program doesn't come up and it's just Minecraft.net's background. This computer is fully updated as well...
#741 [19:11] <Schmoop> I can open up in Internet explorer, but the game is extremely laggy
#742 [19:11] <Schmoop> and I use Firefox by Mozilla
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#745 [19:15] <Schmoop> .....
#746 [19:15] <Schmoop> I will be patient.....
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#748 [19:17] <M1n3cr4ftr> OMG im having so much trouble donwliading this damn driver!!
#749 [19:17] <Schmoop> ummm
#750 [19:17] <Schmoop> I don't have minecraft downloaded -- and I don't plan to, and so I play in browser. So whenever I open the 'Minecraft.net/play' nothing loads. The box saying that Java is launching it's program doesn't come up and it's just Minecraft.net's background. This computer is fully updated as well...
#751 [19:18] <Schmoop> I can open up in Internet explorer, but the game is extremely laggy
#752 [19:18] <Schmoop> and I use Firefox by Mozilla
#753 [19:18] <NinjaKirby> Copypasting?
#754 [19:18] <Schmoop> lol yessir
#755 [19:18] <Schmoop> If I could type that fast...
#756 [19:18] * NinjaKirby golf claps
#756 [19:18] <Schmoop> really though, would somebody do me a favor here? This is the fastest solution generally....
#757 [19:19] <DiskDaemon> possibly
#758 [19:19] <Schmoop> Hmm, sounds lovely
#759 [19:19] <NinjaKirby> It's cliché, but complete uninstallation and installation of Java is worth doing, if it hasn't been.
#760 [19:19] <Schmoop> oh lauwdie
#761 [19:19] <NinjaKirby> Which version of FireFox btw?
#762 [19:19] <Schmoop> that would be a last
#763 [19:19] <Schmoop> ummm let me check
#764 [19:20] <NinjaKirby> FireFox propelled me to some sh*tty version 10 which couldn't even handle YouTube properly
#765 [19:20] <Schmoop> I couldn't answer you that but I do believe that it's the most recent...
#766 [19:20] <NinjaKirby> I tend to stick around v7/v8, maybe the latest version they pushed out is derpin'
#767 [19:20] <Schmoop> hmm
#768 [19:21] <NinjaKirby> Kinda longshot, but perhaps worth ruling out :/
#769 [19:21] <Schmoop> It was just this morning strangely were it just dropped and stopped
#770 [19:21] <Schmoop> idk...
#771 [19:21] <NinjaKirby> Oh right, sorry, problem just started today
#772 [19:21] <Schmoop> this sucks lol
#773 [19:21] <Schmoop> Ok
#774 [19:21] <Schmoop> hm
#775 [19:21] <NinjaKirby> Got ridiculously high CPU usage? Try killing as many irrelevant processes as possibl
#776 [19:21] <NinjaKirby> *Possible, assuming you are okay with identifying them
#777 [19:22] <Schmoop> yeah that's something I have taken a look at, but see I can use IE but it is so laggy I can't play you know?
#778 [19:22] <NinjaKirby> Actually, could even be a background service starting up killing it, I've seen that happen on my Boss' laptop
#779 [19:22] <Schmoop> so it's mozilla
#780 [19:22] <Schmoop> background...
#781 [19:22] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm ~_~
#782 [19:22] <Schmoop> ah I think you might be on to something
#783 [19:22] <NinjaKirby> Something that's scheduled, or in a stop'd state until called by some Windows service
#784 [19:22] <NinjaKirby> Why it's started now I don't know, maybe a Windows Patch
#785 [19:23] <NinjaKirby> I'm just fukken' brainstorming anything really XD
#786 [19:23] <Schmoop> You're doing something at least :D
#787 [19:23] <Schmoop> Hmm I have low CPU usage around 15 percent
#788 [19:23] <NinjaKirby> Ah, sweet
#789 [19:23] <Schmoop> and the only memory whore is with Mozilla
#790 [19:24] <Schmoop> and nothing else stands out....
#791 [19:24] <Schmoop> I have updated adobe and java
#792 [19:24] <Schmoop> We'll see....
#793 [19:25] <Schmoop> ok
#794 [19:25] <Schmoop> well wtf my game just started working
#795 [19:25] <Schmoop> well thanks anyway lol :D
#796 [19:25] <NinjaKirby> wut
#797 [19:25] <NinjaKirby> Excellent
#798 [19:26] <Schmoop> Indeed, indeed...
#799 [19:26] <Schmoop> haha well thanks, I really love this thread, just have to find it first!
#800 [19:26] <NinjaKirby> "Thread", taw, but aight :3
#801 [19:26] <Schmoop> yeah ik not a thread exactly haha
#802 [19:27] <Schmoop> immediate support
#803 [19:27] <NinjaKirby> :) The beauty is, I'm just another MC player, dat's it
#804 [19:27] <Schmoop> none the less, it's got my problems done and fixed with people who are there. In the mean time, I will get to my game!
#805 [19:27] <NinjaKirby> "We're in this together", UGH, WUT
#806 [19:27] <Schmoop> haha yep!
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#808 [19:27] <Schmoop> Well thank you!
#809 [19:27] <Schmoop> aight cyall later
#810 [19:27] <NinjaKirby> Enjoy gaming man, take care
#811 [19:28] <NinjaKirby> He was a Mibbit? Oh god.... OH GOD, WHAT HAVE I DONE!?
#812 [19:28] <NinjaKirby> /cruise control
#813 [19:28] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: haha
#814 [19:29] <NinjaKirby> It kinda defies the point of an IRC Help Channel, but I'm surprised there isn't a small Web based help system developed.
#815 [19:30] <NinjaKirby> A wizard, based on common problems, etc.
#816 [19:30] <NinjaKirby> Unless the Mojang one actually covers it, explaining Java reinstalls, port forwarding, and all that derp.
#817 [19:31] <NinjaKirby> inb4 I just volounteered
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#820 [19:39] <M1n3cr4ftr> @sugoi the driver is finaly downloaded, what do i do now? I have a winrar file
#821 [19:41] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: oh hi
#822 [19:41] <M1n3cr4ftr> hi
#823 [19:42] <sugoi> um, sec
#824 [19:42] <sugoi> do you have a tool to open rars?
#825 [19:42] * sugoi recommends 7zip
#825 [19:42] <M1n3cr4ftr> winrar
#826 [19:42] <M1n3cr4ftr> I could dl 7zip..
#827 [19:43] <sugoi> it doesn't matter if you already have something
#828 [19:43] <sugoi> just saying, 7zip is so good it actually increases your karma just to have it
#829 [19:43] <Wug> M1n3cr4ftr: grab teamviewer
#830 [19:43] <M1n3cr4ftr> lol ill get it, do i dl this one..7-Zip for 64-bit Windows x64 (Intel 64 or AMD64)
#831 [19:44] <M1n3cr4ftr> teamviewer? why
#832 [19:44] <Wug> ill help you install it
#833 [19:44] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: i'll step back -- wug wants to help you now
#834 [19:44] <M1n3cr4ftr> can you just tell me how to install?
#835 [19:45] <Wug> I guess. extract the archive and search for a file called setup.exe
#836 [19:46] <M1n3cr4ftr> I extracted it to a folder on my desktop, i see setup.exe
#837 [19:46] <Wug> ok, run it
#838 [19:47] <M1n3cr4ftr> one sec, making sure i have a restore point
#839 [19:49] <M1n3cr4ftr> ok express or custon install and any special place to put it or defaultt?
#840 [19:50] <Wug> express, default location
#841 [19:51] <M1n3cr4ftr> ok, i guess ill close everything then and install, ill be back
#842 [19:51] <M1n3cr4ftr> ty :)
#843 [19:51] <Wug> np
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#845 [19:51] <Wug> come back if you have trouble with iyt
#846 [19:51] <M1n3cr4ftr> ok
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#849 [20:00] <M1n3cr4ftr> wug, i have the same error
#850 [20:01] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: when running 64 bit java?
#851 [20:01] <sugoi> but 32 works?
#852 [20:01] <M1n3cr4ftr> yes
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#854 [20:01] <M1n3cr4ftr> didnt check 32 bit
#855 [20:01] <sugoi> these types of details (that i asked) are vey helpful
#856 [20:01] <sugoi> so when you say "i get an error" <- that really doesn't help
#857 [20:01] <sugoi> seriously
#858 [20:01] <umbridge> Hey I need help updateing my video card driver
#859 [20:02] <sugoi> umbridge: what have you tried so far?
#860 [20:02] <umbridge> Idk wtf to do really
#861 [20:02] <umbridge> sorry
#862 [20:02] <sugoi> umbridge: do you know what type of video card that you have?
#863 [20:02] <umbridge> not that i know of no.
#864 [20:03] <M1n3cr4ftr> LoadLibray failed with error 126: The specified module could not be found--- im unintalling java 64 right now
#865 [20:03] <sugoi> ok, let's use dxdiag to figure that out
#866 [20:03] <sugoi> ?? dxdiag
#867 [20:03] <umbridge> Okay
#868 [20:03] <sugoi> sec
#869 [20:03] <sugoi> ?? win/dxdiag
#870 [20:03] <NinjaKirby> The powerful kind of video card, that just, omg, consumes like 300mah at 497vac
#871 [20:03] <NinjaKirby> The rarest of the rares
#872 [20:04] <NinjaKirby> Not even Indiana Jones has this type of card
#873 [20:04] <sugoi> ??> umbridge win/dxdiag
#874 [20:04] <VoxelHead> umbridge: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#875 [20:04] <VoxelHead> umbridge: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#876 [20:05] <umbridge> wut about chuck norris
#877 [20:05] <sugoi> umbridge: just read what VoxelHead said
#878 [20:06] <umbridge> i am :D thx
#879 [20:06] <M1n3cr4ftr> minecraft work on 32 bit but not 64 just as last time... idk what to do
#880 [20:06] <NinjaKirby> Aye, ignore me umbridge
#881 [20:06] <Wug> M1n3cr4ftr: ok, now you need teamviewer
#882 [20:06] <M1n3cr4ftr> what is tiemviewer
#883 [20:06] <Wug> :tv
#884 [20:06] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#885 [20:06] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#886 [20:06] <umbridge> ninja i asked wut about chuck norris?
#887 [20:07] <M1n3cr4ftr> what are you going to do wug?
#888 [20:07] <Wug> try to fix it
#889 [20:08] <M1n3cr4ftr> well, do you think it will only be minecraft with this problem? if so im fine with leaving it on 32 bit
#890 [20:08] <M1n3cr4ftr> or, will there be any problems with leaving it how it is
#891 [20:09] <Wug> its likely that any 64 bit opengl application will have the same problem
#892 [20:09] <Wug> there arent very many of those but you might have issues with a few games
#893 [20:09] <M1n3cr4ftr> will I have issues using 32 bit java?
#894 [20:09] <Wug> yeah, thats another thing
#895 [20:09] <umbridge> sugoi there is no submit buton :(
#896 [20:09] <Wug> minecraft usually performs very poorly on 32 bit java
#897 [20:10] <sugoi> umbridge: on pastebin?
#898 [20:10] <umbridge> yeah
#899 [20:10] <Wug> M1n3cr4ftr: grab teamviewer and send me your id and pass
#900 [20:10] <M1n3cr4ftr> im getting 60 frames on far with 32 bit! better then the 20 i had before the driver update
#901 [20:10] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: if it makes you feel safer, wug in this channel has helped ~100 people with teamviewer :)
#902 [20:10] <Wug> it will get slowly worse and worse until its not usable anymore
#903 [20:10] <Wug> typically takes about 15 minutes
#904 [20:10] <Wug> depends on the system
#905 [20:11] <sugoi> umbridge: scroll down
#906 [20:11] <Wug> sugoi: ive helped way more than that
#907 [20:11] <sugoi> it's below the options
#908 [20:11] <umbridge> i scrolled down to the end of the page
#909 [20:11] <sugoi> Wug: woah...ok, i had a mistake in my grep, thanks
#910 [20:11] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: more like ~500
#911 [20:12] <Wug> maybe not quite that many
#912 [20:12] <Wug> but probably like 200
#913 [20:12] <sugoi> haha, ok
#914 [20:12] <Wug> idk, ive been here a while
#915 [20:12] <M1n3cr4ftr> im realy scared :/
#916 [20:12] <Wug> I wonder how many gravy's done
#917 [20:13] <Wug> M1n3cr4ftr: this is a common procedure
#918 [20:13] <umbridge> nutty if for some odd reason wug trys somthing you can exit out the program but thats near to imposible
#919 [20:13] <M1n3cr4ftr> well, do you like control my mouse and stuff?
#920 [20:13] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: he does, but your actions take priority
#921 [20:13] <sugoi> so you can close teamviewer
#922 [20:13] <umbridge> no yo^
#923 [20:14] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: but wug is trustworthy
#924 [20:14] <umbridge> sugoi
#925 [20:14] <umbridge> i cant fin sumbit wut do i do?
#926 [20:14] <sugoi> umbridge: http://imgur.com/w4SfX
#927 [20:14] <umbridge> i dont have those options
#928 [20:14] <sugoi> then you went to the wrong website
#929 [20:15] <umbridge> i dohttp://pastebin.com/
#930 [20:15] <umbridge> thats the one i went to
#931 [20:15] <sugoi> yep that is correct
#932 [20:15] <M1n3cr4ftr> i have teamviewer installed
#933 [20:15] <sugoi> there IS a submit button, unless aliens are having fun with you for some reason
#934 [20:15] <M1n3cr4ftr> or ran rather
#935 [20:16] <sugoi> M1n3cr4ftr: start a private chat with wug
#936 [20:17] <umbridge> http://imgur.com/i4GWd
#937 [20:17] <sugoi> haha
#938 [20:17] <sugoi> it's like we're playing imgur tag
#939 [20:17] <umbridge> :D
#940 [20:17] <umbridge> i think aliens are having fun with me tbh
#941 [20:17] <sugoi> haha
#942 [20:18] <sugoi> it's like the page didn't finish loading
#943 [20:18] <sugoi> weird
#944 [20:18] <umbridge> it does say
#945 [20:18] <umbridge> Done, with errors on the oage
#946 [20:18] <sugoi> hit refresh on that page
#947 [20:18] <sugoi> haha
#948 [20:18] <sugoi> oh
#949 [20:18] <sugoi> well, try it agani
#950 [20:19] <umbridge> Again i refreahed liek5 times
#951 [20:19] <umbridge> error on the page
#952 [20:19] <umbridge> refreshed*
#953 [20:19] <sugoi> bah
#954 [20:19] <sugoi> option b
#955 [20:19] <umbridge> do you need me to search for somthing?
#956 [20:20] <sugoi> umbridge: see my private chat with you
#957 [20:23] <sugoi> so, umbridge
#958 [20:23] <sugoi> see the "Display Devices" section? that's your video card info
#959 [20:23] <sugoi> you have an integrated chipset for graphics
#960 [20:23] <sugoi> we'll find you the update, but keep in mind, integrated graphics are inferior to a dedicated card
#961 [20:23] <umbridge> ohk
#962 [20:24] <sugoi> and you may not get the performance you're hoping for
#963 [20:24] <umbridge> its fine
#964 [20:24] <umbridge> my computer just died so im using the familys computer
#965 [20:24] <umbridge> for no reason infact
#966 [20:24] <umbridge> when i plug in my power cord the green light in the back lights up
#967 [20:24] <umbridge> but when i push the on button
#968 [20:25] <umbridge> nothing happens
#969 [20:25] <sugoi> kinda scary
#970 [20:25] <umbridge> lol
#971 [20:25] <sugoi> try removing the batter and unplug it, hold power for a few seconds (power flushh)
#972 [20:25] <umbridge> Fudgeing aliens
#973 [20:25] <sugoi> then with power cord only, try to start it
#974 [20:26] <umbridge> oh kay itry that thanks
#975 [20:26] <umbridge> The battery is where the power plug, plugs into righ <.>
#976 [20:26] <sugoi> nay
#977 [20:26] <umbridge> Lol i know didly squat about computers
#978 [20:27] <sugoi> typically it's a block like thing on the back area
#979 [20:27] <umbridge> Yeah i know where it is now
#980 [20:27] <umbridge> So what your saying to do id unplug it and plug it back in? then hold power for a few seconds?
#981 [20:28] <sugoi> no, remove power, remove battery
#982 [20:28] <sugoi> hold power button (nothing in)
#983 [20:28] <umbridge> Okay
#984 [20:28] <sugoi> then, put power cord back in, try power
#985 [20:28] <umbridge> to get rid of all the poweer
#986 [20:28] <umbridge> gotcha
#987 [20:28] <umbridge> then w.o putting the battery in plug the power cable and try to start it?
#988 [20:29] <sugoi> yes
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#990 [20:29] <umbridge> any other advice if that doesnt work?
#991 [20:29] <sugoi> call the manufacturer
#992 [20:30] <umbridge> Alright thanks for your help
#993 [20:30] <umbridge> you still looking for the update?
#994 [20:31] <sugoi> yeah, intel model names and their driver families are crap
#995 [20:31] <sugoi> and i'm kinda slow ...
#996 [20:31] <umbridge> >.^lol
#997 [20:31] <umbridge> dw take your time but do it B4 december cuz i wanna play alil b4 we all die
#998 [20:32] <umbridge> i dont belive in that stuff btw just a a joke
#999 [20:32] <sugoi> that's a lot of incomplete english
#1000 [20:33] <sugoi> apparently, texting has taught you that typing full words is no longer important
#1001 [20:33] <sugoi> :)
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#1003 [20:35] <sugoi> umbridge: try this link
#1004 [20:35] <sugoi> http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect/graphics
#1005 [20:36] <umbridge> Lol sorry
#1006 [20:37] <sugoi> but i think this is it: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=2102&DwnldID=18223&ProductFamily=Internet+Devices&ProductLine=Entry+Level+Desktop+PC&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+82945G+Express+Chipset&lang=eng
#1007 [20:37] <sugoi> the 'download' button on the right
#1008 [20:38] <sugoi> umbridge: i need to run very soon
#1009 [20:38] <sugoi> did you get the download link?
#1010 [20:41] <sugoi> umbridge: ok, well i'm out
#1011 [20:41] <sugoi> if someone else needs to help, here is your dxdiag: http://paste2.org/p/1965831
#1012 [20:41] * sugoi is afk
#1012 [20:43] <M1n3cr4ftr> HE FIXED IT
#1013 [20:43] * Wug bows
#1013 [20:44] * M1n3cr4ftr can now play minecraft with 10000fps and no lighting bug
#1013 [20:44] <M1n3cr4ftr> thanks to wug!
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#1017 [20:50] <Eddie> 10000 fps?
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#1027 [22:22] * langkid1 pets Wug
#1027 [22:22] <Wug> langkid1: come play mafia
#1028 [22:22] <langkid1> I'm not allowed on #werewolf
#1029 [22:22] <Wug> we're not there so thats ok
#1030 [22:22] <Wug> irc.ambrosia.net #mafia
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#1046 [23:23] <Jackson413> hey kealper
#1047 [23:23] <Kealper> :o
#1048 [23:23] <Jackson413> wassup dood
#1049 [23:23] <Kealper> nm lol
#1050 [23:23] <Jackson413> can you whitelist me on your server?
#1051 [23:24] <Kealper> that reminds me... i have to re-add the hardcore smp mod on it
#1052 [23:24] <Jackson413> bukkit?
#1053 [23:24] <Kealper> nope, wuggit
#1054 [23:24] <Jackson413> I enjoyed popping in here and there
#1055 [23:24] <luckz> Wug: is irc.ambrosia.net the ambrosia software network?
#1056 [23:24] <Jackson413> whats wuggit?
#1057 [23:25] <Kealper> the hcsmp mod is a standalone mod for vanilla made by Wug lol
#1058 [23:25] <Jackson413> ah
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#1060 [23:25] <Kealper> Wug: speaking of which.... can has link for that since i don't feel like scrolling up?
#1061 [23:36] <Jackson413> Kealper
#1062 [23:36] <Jackson413> you play starcraft?
#1063 [23:38] <Wug> luckz: I have no idea what they do
#1064 [23:38] <Wug> the network has like 15 users
#1065 [23:39] <Jackson413> Wug do you?
#1066 [23:39] <Wug> I do sometimes
#1067 [23:39] <luckz> Wug: oh ok. I sorta 'brought that network down' many many years ago. good old times.
#1068 [23:39] <Jackson413> what league?
#1069 [23:39] <Wug> noob
#1070 [23:39] <Jackson413> klol same
#1071 [23:39] <Jackson413> you should add me bro
#1072 [23:39] <Jackson413> what race do you play?
#1073 [23:39] <Wug> protoss generally
#1074 [23:39] <Jackson413> this is starcraft 2 not 1
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#1078 [23:45] * GreyVulpine prods Wug, has done way too many Teamviewer sessions to count.
#1078 [23:45] <a> Could anyone help me with mod maker? MCP is set up already, it's just a very simple problem.
#1079 [23:46] <Jackson413> GreyVulpine, how have you been big boy?
#1080 [23:46] <Wug> a: have you tried youtube? there are some decent tutorials
#1081 [23:46] <a> Yes
#1082 [23:46] <a> I'm all set up.
#1083 [23:46] <a> Everything works
#1084 [23:47] <a> but,my item isn't working with a recipe.
#1085 [23:47] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1085 [23:47] <Jackson413> a, sounds like a bug
#1086 [23:47] <a> Im affraid its the 16 by 16 graphic, or the itm is just messed up
#1087 [23:47] <a> I set a recipe, 4 dirt = 2 gold disc, and that worked
#1088 [23:47] <a> I made a sword, very simply in the item creator
#1089 [23:48] <a> and when I made the recipe = the item, it didn't make it in game.
#1090 [23:48] <Jackson413> doesnt work in mp
#1091 [23:49] <Jackson413> if you didn't already know that
#1092 [23:50] <a> What doesn't?
#1093 [23:50] <Jackson413> most mods
#1094 [23:50] <a> MP?
#1095 [23:50] <a> MP = multi player?
#1096 [23:50] <Jackson413> yessir
#1097 [23:51] <a> I wasn't in multiplayer
#1098 [23:51] <a> just single :D
#1099 [23:51] <a> I can send screens maybe?
#1100 [23:51] <a> I'm not sure what to screencap thought
#1101 [23:51] <Jackson413> I'm not that good with mods
#1102 [23:51] <a> though(
#1103 [23:51] <Jackson413> only a few here and there
#1104 [23:51] <Jackson413> like zombe
#1105 [23:51] <Jackson413> basic ones
#1106 [23:51] <a> ok
#1107 [23:52] <a> thats ok :D
#1108 [23:52] <a> Wug, you have any idea?
#1109 [23:52] <a> if not I can keep trying
#1110 [23:52] <a> :D
#1111 [23:52] <Wug> I dont know. keep trying
#1112 [23:53] <a> I found a tutorial, but he is using a very old version.
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#1114 [23:54] <a> HoboPickle, are you good with mod maker?
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#1116 [23:56] <M1n3cr4ftr> just wondering if this is common, since I updated my video driver when I log on the comp it stays on a black screen for like 20 secs before showng desktop
#1117 [23:56] <Wug> sounds normal to me
#1118 [23:56] <Wug> it gets there eventually, right
#1119 [23:57] <M1n3cr4ftr> yea, just before it was instant
#1120 [23:57] <M1n3cr4ftr> ok
#1121 [23:57] <a> what gpu>
#1122 [23:58] <Wug> mobile 6550 I think
#1123 [23:58] <Wug> radeon
#1124 [23:58] <M1n3cr4ftr> erm yes, creepy
#1125 [23:58] <M1n3cr4ftr> actualy 6650m ha!