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#1 [00:00] * M1n3cr4ftr slaps laangkid1
#1 [00:00] <Wug> I helped you in teamviewer, remember
#2 [00:00] <Wug> I checked your dxdiag report as I was doing that
#3 [00:00] <M1n3cr4ftr> yep :D
#4 [00:01] <Wug> you also have 1GB of ram
#5 [00:01] <M1n3cr4ftr> nooo 8
#6 [00:01] <Wug> maybe im thinking of someone I teamviewered the other day
#7 [00:02] <Wug> yeah, it was he who had 1
#8 [00:02] <Wug> he was also on a 32 bit system
#9 [00:02] <Wug> whereas you are not
#10 [00:02] <a> so no one here good with mod maker/
#11 [00:03] <M1n3cr4ftr> i cant believe how good mc runs now, 80-110fps on max! :D
#12 [00:04] <HoboPickle> a: dunno what you mean, i know nothing of modding it, sorry :P
#13 [00:04] <a> ok
#14 [00:04] <a> haha
#15 [00:04] <a> haha
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#18 [00:14] <Ninja> wajy cant u use §
#19 [00:15] <Ninja> why cant u use §
#20 [00:15] <Ninja> why cant i use §
#21 [00:15] <Ninja> why cant i paste in signs
#22 [00:15] <Eddie> Because you use them too often.
#23 [00:16] <Ninja> why isnt half slabs blocks affected by woods color
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#25 [00:31] <Wug> GreyVulpine: I discovered something
#26 [00:31] <Wug> this was M1n3cr4ftr's problem earlier
#27 [00:32] <Wug> he had that retarded driver error we see sometimes with opengl on amd drivers
#28 [00:32] <Wug> solution was: go to system32 and make a copy of atioa6xx.dll called atiogl64.dll
#29 [00:33] <Wug> idk why amd cant get their shit together and try to load the right file but oh well
#30 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#31 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> AMD's driver support have always been sub-par
#32 [00:38] <Wug> this is the loadlibrary 126 error
#33 [00:38] <Wug> more specifically, this is the 64 bit solution to it
#34 [00:38] <Wug> the 32 bit solution is different
#35 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> loadlibrary.. as in the java/windows error one?
#36 [00:39] <Wug> yup
#37 [00:39] <Wug> .. asdf
#38 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> Ah right, that usually points to video drivers
#39 [00:39] <Wug> they changed melons so they dont have to grow on farmland
#40 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> orly
#41 [00:40] <Wug> apparently they did that for 1.0
#42 [00:40] <Wug> IVE WASTED SO MANY HOS
#43 [00:40] * GreyVulpine snrks
#43 [00:40] <Wug> (if you know what I mean)
#44 [00:40] <Wug> anyway
#45 [00:40] <Wug> the 32 bit version of java worked
#46 [00:40] <Wug> but the 64 bit one was giving the loadlibrary failure error
#47 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> Ah yeah, I think we had that in the past. Don't remember if we actually solved it before
#48 [00:41] <Wug> I had solved the 32 bit one a few times
#49 [00:41] <Wug> the solution for affected 32 bit systems was to copy 'atioglxx.dll' to '.dll'
#50 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> The 32/64 one, the general 126 error one was to uninstall/reinstall/update video drivers
#51 [00:42] <Wug> yeah, we tried that
#52 [00:42] <Wug> a good install of the most recent version had it
#53 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> Ah.
#54 [00:42] <Wug> you should get on kealpers server :>
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#57 [01:27] <M1n3cr4ftr> is wug there?
#58 [01:28] <Wug> yes
#59 [01:29] <M1n3cr4ftr> since updating my graphics driver, there are inernet site that just appear black but I can still click things on them
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#61 [01:29] <M1n3cr4ftr> do you know why?
#62 [01:29] <Wug> that shouldnt have anything to do with the graphics driver
#63 [01:30] <Wug> have you restarted since installing it
#64 [01:30] <M1n3cr4ftr> yes twice
#65 [01:30] <M1n3cr4ftr> the runescape site it just black for me and other sites
#66 [01:30] <Wug> hm, runescape. runescape is a java game
#67 [01:31] <M1n3cr4ftr> i can still play the game if I go dirrectly to the game page
#68 [01:31] <Wug> do you still have the 32 bit version of java
#69 [01:31] <M1n3cr4ftr> yes
#70 [01:31] <Wug> playing runescape from the browser will use that version
#71 [01:31] <Wug> you say it doesnt work if you use the downloadable one?
#72 [01:32] <M1n3cr4ftr> if i go the forum site its just black but going dirrectly to the game workd, its all in browser
#73 [01:33] <Wug> the entire forum is black?
#74 [01:33] <M1n3cr4ftr> yes
#75 [01:33] <Wug> the forum doesnt rely on java or your graphics drivers at all, its just a website
#76 [01:34] <Wug> what browser are you using
#77 [01:34] <M1n3cr4ftr> google chrome
#78 [01:34] <Wug> so you go here: http://forum.runescape.com/forums.ws and everything is black?
#79 [01:35] <M1n3cr4ftr> yes
#80 [01:35] <Wug> no messages or anything, just black?
#81 [01:35] <Wug> is there any text?
#82 [01:35] <M1n3cr4ftr> no but I can click links on it
#83 [01:35] <M1n3cr4ftr> same thing here http://www.change.org/
#84 [01:37] <Wug> open a new tab
#85 [01:37] <Wug> visit about:flags
#86 [01:38] <Wug> search for an option labeled "GPU Accelerated Drawing"
#87 [01:38] <Wug> is it enabled?
#88 [01:40] <M1n3cr4ftr> GPU-Accelerated SVG and CSS Filters this?
#89 [01:40] <M1n3cr4ftr> thats all I can find and it inst
#90 [01:40] <Wug> is there one called "WebGL"
#91 [01:40] <M1n3cr4ftr> yes
#92 [01:41] <Wug> toggle that one
#93 [01:41] <M1n3cr4ftr> so click enable?
#94 [01:41] <Wug> yeah, then try the pages agaon
#95 [01:41] <Wug> again*
#96 [01:42] <M1n3cr4ftr> need to relaunch chrome brb
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#98 [01:44] <M1n3cr4ftr_> didnt help
#99 [01:44] <Wug> where did you download the driver you installed from
#100 [01:45] <M1n3cr4ftr_> acer website
#101 [01:45] <M1n3cr4ftr_> support lady gave to me
#102 [01:45] <Wug> its possible that its an issue with the driver. I cant think of anything else except maybe that its an issue with the driver
#103 [01:46] <M1n3cr4ftr_> the websites work on ie
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#105 [01:46] <Wug> derp
#106 [01:46] <Wug> I meant 'except to try another browser'
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#108 [01:46] <Wug> do you have firefox and does that work
#109 [01:46] <M1n3cr4ftr_> dont have it
#110 [01:47] <M1n3cr4ftr_> should I get it and try
#111 [01:47] <Wug> its possible that it will work with firefox
#112 [01:48] <Wug> and anything is better than IE
#113 [01:48] <M1n3cr4ftr_> lol
#114 [01:48] <M1n3cr4ftr_> ie 9 isnt that bad
#115 [01:48] <M1n3cr4ftr_> ill try reinstalling chrome maybe, you dont know cause of problem?
#116 [01:50] <Wug> if chrome is out of date that might fix it
#117 [01:51] <M1n3cr4ftr_> ok ill be back
#118 [01:51] <M1n3cr4ftr_> maybe its kinda late
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#120 [01:52] <M1n3cr4ftr> im back..
#121 [01:52] <M1n3cr4ftr> just realized that when I load the site at the bottom it says waiting for facebook.com :/
#122 [01:53] <M1n3cr4ftr> why would it say that if it rs
#123 [01:54] <Wug> M1n3cr4ftr: try clearing your cache
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#138 [04:36] <sugoi> xales: aren't you a mac guy?
#139 [04:49] <sugoi> nvm, got it worked out
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#147 [05:50] <Deddily> I'm considering the following laptop and would like to know how well it will run Minecraft, please: LENOVO THINKPAD L520 CI5 2.4 4GB
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#149 [05:52] <vashaub> can i ask about buying minecraft here?
#150 [05:52] <DiskDaemon> Deddily: The best way to determine is to attempt to play Minecraft in person on the computer, using the browser version of the game.
#151 [05:52] <DiskDaemon> But it from minecraft.net
#152 [05:52] <DiskDaemon> *Buy
#153 [05:52] <vashaub> no its about payment
#154 [05:52] <DiskDaemon> sure thing
#155 [05:52] <vashaub> i recently bought minecraft on my debit card
#156 [05:52] <vashaub> and now it says i have to wait 48 hours
#157 [05:52] <vashaub> to buy it again
#158 [05:53] <vashaub> it has now been 48 hours since i bought it
#159 [05:53] <vashaub> still wont work
#160 [05:53] <DiskDaemon> The page giving help relating to payment troubles is at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/topics/151617-payment-troubleshooting-/articles
#161 [05:53] <DiskDaemon> Specifically, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
#162 [05:53] <Deddily> DiskDaemon: I will have to buy the machine by postal order, so I am not able to test it before purchase.
#163 [05:53] <DiskDaemon> Deddily: The machine will run Minecraft with absolutely no trouble at all.
#164 [05:54] <DiskDaemon> Deddily: The machine won't be able to Minecraft without major issues.
#165 [05:55] <Deddily> DiskDaemon: Thank you. I didn't quite understand the second thing you said there, though. I was concerned about that machine because reviews say it is not for games.
#166 [05:56] <DiskDaemon> Deddily: Whether Minecraft runs on there without issue depends on many factors.
#167 [05:56] <DiskDaemon> One of them being how often and whether you update the drivers. For example, this page shows that an update improves choppy Minecraft play on that specific laptop.
#168 [05:57] <Deddily> DiskDaemon: Yes... but I was hoping someone with good insight would be able to consider the specs and give me some advice.
#169 [05:57] <DiskDaemon> Deddily: The specs don't provide enough information to make a reliable determination
#170 [05:58] <Deddily> DiskDaemon: I can type the exact specs here, one moment...
#171 [05:58] <DiskDaemon> Deddily: Stop.
#172 [05:58] <Deddily> ...stopping
#173 [05:59] <DiskDaemon> Deddily: I don't mean the specs you gave. I mean the specifications of the actual computer itself are not enough to determine much in the way of how Minecraft will go on there
#174 [05:59] <Deddily> DiskDaemon: Oh I see.
#175 [06:00] <DiskDaemon> Sometimes it can be determined that some part of the specs results in a poor experience, but as for a good experience, nothing trumps what you will find when you actually play it.
#176 [06:00] <Deddily> That makes it difficult to choose a machine...
#177 [06:00] <DiskDaemon> A useful page though can be http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hardware_performance
#178 [06:01] <DiskDaemon> For example, your chosen laptop comes with a "Intel HD Graphics 3000" graphics card
#179 [06:02] <Deddily> I'll have a look, thank you for the link
#180 [06:02] <Wug> I'm jumping in
#181 [06:02] <Deddily> As I understand it, Minecraft relies mainly on the CPU - correct?
#182 [06:02] <Wug> for minecraft to perform well, a strong graphics card helps
#183 [06:03] <Wug> integrated intel ones used to have lots of issues
#184 [06:03] <DiskDaemon> Sadly Minecraft is poorly designed for performance, so it demands more from computers than most other modern games of today.
#185 [06:03] <Wug> I wouldnt quite say that
#186 [06:03] <Wug> if it had comparable graphics, it would easily demand more
#187 [06:03] <DiskDaemon> The game is not optimised as well for computers as its counterparts?
#188 [06:04] <Wug> thankfully, it doesnt. the intel HD graphics 3000 is the integrated processor graphics on a second gen core i7 chip
#189 [06:04] <Wug> in my limited experience, this chip is capable of playing minecraft at an acceptable standard as long as the drivers for it are up to date
#190 [06:04] <Deddily> (and i5)
#191 [06:04] <Wug> the i5 has only the HD 2000
#192 [06:05] <Wug> the 3000 is only available on the higher end i7s
#193 [06:05] <Wug> or at least it was
#194 [06:05] <Wug> it used to be exclusive to the 2600k
#195 [06:05] <Wug> ANYWAY
#196 [06:05] <Deddily> Wug, according to the specs of the machine, it's an Intel Core i5 2430M 2,4 GHz with Intel HD Graphics 3000
#197 [06:06] <Wug> you'll probably be fine with that as long as you make sure to update the drivers
#198 [06:06] <DiskDaemon> Specs: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/laptops/thinkpad/l-series/l520
#199 [06:07] <DiskDaemon> I agree. Since the driver updates specifically state that they improve the performance of Minecraft on that particular model, that's the way to go.
#200 [06:07] <Deddily> Thank you both.
#201 [06:10] <Deddily> DiskDaemon: Where did you get the information about driver updates improving Minecraft performance?
#202 [06:10] <Wug> according to wikipedia, all of the core i-series mobile processors use the hd graphics 3000 as their on-die graphics
#203 [06:11] <DiskDaemon> From http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS013772
#204 [06:11] <Wug> Deddily: someone was in here earlier today who updated his drivers and got a 300% framerate boost
#205 [06:11] * lemon-rev just throw a egg at a corner small chicken poped out and stuck and died in wall :(
#205 [06:11] <Wug> different gpu but its a fairly common thing
#206 [06:11] <DiskDaemon> Where it says: "(Fix) Minecraft is not smooth during gameplay."
#207 [06:12] <Deddily> Thanks DiskDaemon. Wow, 300% eh?
#208 [06:12] <Wug> lemon-rev: what I wouldnt give for chickens in my current base -.-
#209 [06:12] <Wug> I'm thousands of blocks from land
#210 [06:12] <lemon-rev> lol yea i understand
#211 [06:12] <DiskDaemon> yeah, that's quite the jump, though 10 fps to 30fps is easier to achieve than 30fps to 90fps
#212 [06:12] <lemon-rev> hm, middle of an ocean
#213 [06:13] <lemon-rev> i have almost everything i need in one base in world 2 basicly lol
#214 [06:13] <Wug> its cool because its a pvp hardcore server
#215 [06:13] <Wug> I'm totally the 1%
#216 [06:14] <Wug> I'm 50k blocks from spawn, in the middle of a gigantic freaking ocean
#217 [06:14] <lemon-rev> hm, well hardcore i suppose its not easy when you have extra other players after your skin
#218 [06:14] <Wug> my base has no security
#219 [06:14] <lemon-rev> best place to be, just dig down
#220 [06:14] <lemon-rev> it doesnt need it :P
#221 [06:14] <Wug> apart from the fact that finding it is mathematically unlikely
#222 [06:14] <Wug> I have 3 stacks of iron blocks :S
#223 [06:14] <lemon-rev> lol,
#224 [06:15] <lemon-rev> nice one,
#225 [06:15] <lemon-rev> thats a hell a lot of iron :)
#226 [06:15] <Wug> I also have 18 diamond blocks and a fully enchanted diamond armor set
#227 [06:16] <lemon-rev> at what level though
#228 [06:16] <Wug> I spent a while today leading animals from the nearest landmass I could find (4000 blocks out)
#229 [06:16] <lemon-rev> and well dimond armor would do you well on your hardcore server lol thats for sure
#230 [06:16] <Wug> and of course I forgot chickens
#231 [06:16] <lemon-rev> hm, dang, sometimes you can find em underground
#232 [06:16] <Wug> but at least now I have cows and pigs and every color of sheep
#233 [06:17] <Wug> I built a large underground dome to house them all
#234 [06:17] <lemon-rev> bah, im not that fussy about sheep and wool color unless you like building stuff with lots of color
#235 [06:17] <Wug> brought grass and mycelium down with a silk touch pick
#236 [06:17] <Wug> I'll probably deface the spawn with horrible pixel art in the middle of the night lol
#237 [06:17] <lemon-rev> well as long as you have what you need to get everything
#238 [06:17] <lemon-rev> lol
#239 [06:18] <lemon-rev> sounds like fun wug
#240 [06:18] <Wug> the best part about fully legit fun is nobody can stop you
#241 [06:18] <Wug> well, maybe I'm crossing 'fully legit fun' with 'enchanted diamond armor'
#242 [06:18] <lemon-rev> lol, well as long as your oped on server or at least got the permissions to do build on swawn
#243 [06:18] <lemon-rev> hahahhaha
#244 [06:19] <Wug> I do anti-raids
#245 [06:19] <lemon-rev> well kinda hard to ignore you once you have a enchanted diamond armor
#246 [06:19] <Wug> I break into peoples bases and leave stuff
#247 [06:19] <lemon-rev> lol
#248 [06:19] <lemon-rev> thats funny
#249 [06:19] <Wug> or randomly swap things
#250 [06:19] <lemon-rev> or do what i have seen on youtube maps and spell letters out like LOL
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#252 [06:20] <Wug> I'll probably do a giant pixel art wug
#253 [06:20] <Wug> it would be fittimng
#254 [06:21] <lemon-rev> in 3 to 9 colors
#255 [06:21] <lemon-rev> and 2d :P
#256 [06:21] <Wug> :wug
#257 [06:21] <WugBot> wug: http://i.imgur.com/4dt56.png
#258 [06:21] <Wug> all i'd need is blue, black, and white
#259 [06:21] <lemon-rev> hm, that could take a while to build lol
#260 [06:21] <lemon-rev> and heaps of wool
#261 [06:22] <Wug> I have heaps of sheep
#262 [06:22] <lemon-rev> hope you got green grass
#263 [06:22] <Wug> the wool will not be too hard
#264 [06:22] <lemon-rev> middle of ocean not that easy to find
#265 [06:22] <Wug> yeah, I silk touched some back with me
#266 [06:23] <Wug> h/o
#267 [06:23] <lemon-rev> hm, how do you do that, with like a command or somethng
#268 [06:24] <Wug> ;wugsite 2012-04-04_03.44.00.png
#269 [06:24] <WugBot> Wug's Website: http://wug.me/minecraft/2012-04-04_03.44.00.png
#270 [06:24] <Wug> pickaxes with silk touch can mine grass and mycelium and a few other things and preserve the actual block
#271 [06:25] <Wug> that's my dome-y thing where the animals live
#272 [06:25] <lemon-rev> lol i love the lava mote
#273 [06:26] <lemon-rev> hm, and you did the room by your self ? thats quite a touch
#274 [06:26] <Wug> that used to be the site of an abandoned mineshaft
#275 [06:26] <Wug> so it was somewhat hollow already
#276 [06:26] <lemon-rev> surpised you havent lit up the room
#277 [06:26] <Wug> but yes I hollowed it out
#278 [06:26] <Wug> it is lit up, its just at bedrock level and void fog
#279 [06:26] <lemon-rev> oh
#280 [06:26] <lemon-rev> that makes sence then :)
#281 [06:27] <Wug> that picture was taken at maybe y=16
#282 [06:27] <lemon-rev> hm, not bad for a location on the bottem of the underground
#283 [06:28] <Wug> its all fully legit too
#284 [06:28] <Wug> the whole base and all of the resources I have are
#285 [06:29] <lemon-rev> well its a nicely set up base, and since you keep going back to land i suppose you do that via boat as well ?
#286 [06:29] <Wug> with the arguable exception that I used a bug in 1.2.3 to convert stone bricks to different kinds of stone bricks
#287 [06:29] <Wug> (the normally creative only ones with the ring pattern)
#288 [06:29] <Wug> I used them in my library
#289 [06:30] <lemon-rev> hm, interesting, i didnt know about the bug that your talking of but i beive you
#290 [06:30] <Wug> it was an obscure piston bug, I found it on youtube
#291 [06:30] <Wug> ;wugsite 2012-04-04_03.46.51.png
#292 [06:30] <WugBot> Wug's Website: http://wug.me/minecraft/2012-04-04_03.46.51.png
#293 [06:31] <lemon-rev> throught those blocks where only in creative
#294 [06:31] <lemon-rev> but sweet
#295 [06:31] <lemon-rev> nice libary btw
#296 [06:31] <Wug> thats what I mean by "I used a bug to create them"
#297 [06:31] <lemon-rev> :)
#298 [06:32] <Wug> the bug was fixed with 1.2.4 unfortunately
#299 [06:33] <lemon-rev> what about the latest snapshot, it coudl be broke again but at least you got a block that no one else will have
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#305 [07:24] <Patlegame> hi , i m a problem , i can't buy Minecraft by Paypal ... why ?
#306 [07:24] <lemon-rev> what does it say ?
#307 [07:24] <lemon-rev> and where are you trying to buy it with like from which site ?
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#311 [07:27] <Patlegame> on the store , when i proceed to checkout, i log in on paypal and when i select "buy" , he said , "sorry we can't, go back on minecraft site" (sry im french =X)
#312 [07:29] <DiskDaemon> I Can't Purchase Minecraft -> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
#313 [07:30] <Patlegame> arf :/ thx
#314 [07:30] <DiskDaemon> There's further payment assistance too at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/topics/151617-payment-troubleshooting-/articles
#315 [07:32] <Patlegame> :'( ok thx
#316 [07:34] <Patlegame> ok ok , bye :)
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#327 [09:06] <Matrixiumn> Hello
#328 [09:06] <Matrixiumn> Can anyone validate the site http://minecraftcodes.info/index.php to see if it does what it actually says?
#329 [09:07] <Matrixiumn> I have nothing to do with this sitr
#330 [09:07] <DiskDaemon> Only use minecraft.net to buy the game or gift codes
#331 [09:07] <Matrixiumn> *sitr
#332 [09:07] <Matrixiumn> **site
#333 [09:07] <Matrixiumn> DiskDaemon, Okay thank you :)
#334 [09:08] <Matrixiumn> It basicly makes people spam to get free gift codes (which I doubt highly people ever get when particicpating in such a dreadful practice)
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#337 [09:21] <mandy> I just updated minecraft and after the "done updating" message it turns to white screen
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#339 [09:23] <xales> ??> mandy forceupdate
#340 [09:23] <VoxelHead> mandy: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#341 [09:23] <VoxelHead> mandy: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#342 [09:24] <mandy> ok,what if i play in browser?
#343 [09:24] <xales> Use the downloadable launcher.
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#345 [09:25] <mandy> ok,i did that,now i get black screen
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#347 [09:26] <Hero_James> hello
#348 [09:26] <Hero_James> anyone?
#349 [09:27] <xales> Hi.
#350 [09:27] <xales> mandy: Did you use "force update"?
#351 [09:27] <Hero_James> Hi I am having trouble with minecraft
#352 [09:27] <Hero_James> I login in today
#353 [09:27] <frilejd> Hello, everbody. Using OSX 10.6. Updated Minecraf 1.2.5. Get black screen.
#354 [09:27] <mandy> yes
#355 [09:27] <Hero_James> yeap
#356 [09:27] <mandy> it said "will force" and i clicked done
#357 [09:28] <Hero_James> any solutions or is it just wait?
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#359 [09:28] <user> Hey! :)
#360 [09:29] <xales> It would appear to be a problem with the latest update. Wait until Mojang fixes it, nothing else you can do at the moment.
#361 [09:29] <Guest2102> :D thanks
#362 [09:30] <Guest2102> :)
#363 [09:30] <Guest2102> I was just typing my question.
#364 [09:30] <mandy> ok,thanks
#365 [09:30] <mandy> so,whats new in this version?
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#368 [09:31] <Brian-Afk> HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
#369 [09:31] <Guest2102> does anybody know what is damaged right now?
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#371 [09:31] <xales> The update currently does not work. Wait until it gets fixed.
#372 [09:32] <Brian-Afk> WHAT
#373 [09:32] <Brian-Afk> THATS what is mai=king me
#374 [09:32] <Sey> Helo ppl, Hust started my minecraft got patch uppdate, Then my game goes to blackscreen after the loading bar :S I see others have the same problem just now?
#375 [09:32] <nce64> what do I do until then?
#376 [09:32] <Brian-Afk> can't get on
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#378 [09:32] <Brian-Afk> D;
#379 [09:32] <Brian-Afk> i cannot get on smp
#380 [09:32] <Brian-Afk> nuuuuuuuuu
#381 [09:32] <xales> The update currently does not work. Wait until it gets fixed.
#382 [09:32] <nce64> I tried to fix it and my .minecraft got deleted
#383 [09:33] <nce64> is there any way to recover it?
#384 [09:33] <xales> If you have a backup, or are using one of the stupid Windows services that backs up everything for you, then yes.
#385 [09:33] <xales> Otherwise, no.
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#387 [09:33] <Brian-Afk> NOOO
#388 [09:33] <Brian-Afk> help me
#389 [09:33] <WugBot> Brian-Afk: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#390 [09:34] <Brian-Afk> when i enter
#391 [09:34] <Brian-Afk> minecraft
#392 [09:34] <Guest2102> Is there any admin of this chat? maybe we set the problem as topic?
#393 [09:34] <Brian-Afk> up the update
#394 [09:34] <Brian-Afk> it got black screen
#395 [09:34] <Sey> same problem here
#396 [09:34] <Graxor> same here
#397 [09:34] <Brian-Afk> EVERYONE SAME?
#398 [09:34] <Brian-Afk> D;
#399 [09:34] <xales> The update currently does not work. Wait until it gets fixed.
#400 [09:34] <nce64> yes...
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#402 [09:34] <Frostsorg> I updated and only get black screen too
#403 [09:34] <Brian-Afk> ok
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#405 [09:34] <Guest2102> me too, I think we cant't do anything but staying calm till it gets fixed.
#406 [09:34] <Brian-Afk> ok
#407 [09:34] <Brian-Afk> GUYS
#408 [09:34] <Brian-Afk> GOTO HERE
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#410 [09:35] <t3hkid> :/
#411 [09:35] <Brian-Afk> download the
#412 [09:35] <Brian-Afk> 1.2.4
#413 [09:35] <Brian-Afk> jar
#414 [09:35] <Brian-Afk> here
#415 [09:35] <Brian-Afk> http://www.minecraftmine.org/minecraft-jar/
#416 [09:35] <t3hkid> stupid update
#417 [09:35] <Brian-Afk> im downloading it
#418 [09:35] <Brian-Afk> too
#419 [09:35] <Brian-Afk> D;
#420 [09:35] * xales kicked Brian-Afk from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rian-Afk ::|)
#421 [09:35] <Grim_Reaper> xales!
#422 [09:35] <Grim_Reaper> Why the hell did you beat me to that kick >_>
#423 [09:36] <xales> :3
#424 [09:36] <Grim_Reaper> ;;
#425 [09:36] <t3hkid> lol
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#427 [09:36] <t3hkid> well looks like i will have to find a way to get minecraft running
#428 [09:36] <Brian-Afk> help
#429 [09:37] <Brian-Afk> i got blacked screem
#430 [09:37] <Brian-Afk> screne
#431 [09:37] <Brian-Afk> after the
#432 [09:37] * xales kicked Brian-Afk from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rian-Afk :Bitching about it not working it's going to make us want to help you, even if we could.)
#433 [09:37] <Frostsorg> will there be an announcement somewhere when the update is fixed?
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#435 [09:37] <Grim_Reaper> Brian-Afk please do not post links to jar files. The tos for mojang clearly states you are not allowed to give out jars or any other minecraft files
#436 [09:37] <xales> Frostsorg: Presumably on Twitter
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#438 [09:37] <Brian-Afk> Please help my minecraft turns blackscreen after the update
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#440 [09:37] <tommylans> hello
#441 [09:38] <Brian-Afk> and i cannot downgrade it to 1.2.4
#442 [09:38] <Grim_Reaper> Brian-Afk wait for the update to get fixed
#443 [09:38] <Brian-Afk> how long?
#444 [09:38] <Frostsorg> thanks, i'll keep an eye out there then :)
#445 [09:38] <tommylans> wait
#446 [09:38] <tommylans> i wait
#447 [09:38] <t3hkid> until mojang finds out
#448 [09:38] <xales> The update currently does not work. Wait until it gets fixed.
#449 [09:38] <tommylans> not work
#450 [09:38] <Brian-Afk> grim
#451 [09:38] <Grim_Reaper> We are not mojang. We don tknow
#452 [09:38] <Brian-Afk> prob how long?
#453 [09:38] <Brian-Afk> ok D:
#454 [09:38] <Grim_Reaper> There is no estimate
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#456 [09:38] <Brian-Afk> thanks for the help
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#458 [09:38] <Brian-Afk> tho
#459 [09:39] <tommylans> not work
#460 [09:39] <nirvanapwns> Anyone else having problems with 1.2.5?
#461 [09:39] <tommylans> wati
#462 [09:39] <tommylans> wait
#463 [09:39] <Brian-Afk> oh
#464 [09:39] <Grim_Reaper> nirvanapwns many people
#465 [09:39] <tommylans> ?
#466 [09:39] <Grim_Reaper> please wait for a fix
#467 [09:39] <Brian-Afk> you cannot post jar files links
#468 [09:39] <nirvanapwns> dam D:
#469 [09:39] <tommylans> 1.2.5
#470 [09:39] <Brian-Afk> i thought you can
#471 [09:39] <tommylans> ?
#472 [09:39] <tommylans> 1.2.5
#473 [09:39] <tommylans> ??
#474 [09:39] <samDJ> I cant start minecraft
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#476 [09:39] <nirvanapwns> tommylans stop spamming
#477 [09:39] <t3hkid> its against minecrafts tos brian
#478 [09:39] <tommylans> yes
#479 [09:40] <xales> -!- The update currently does not work. Wait until it gets fixed. -!-
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#481 [09:40] <Grim_Reaper> xales I think a topic is in order
#482 [09:40] <Brian-Afk> -!- The update currently does not work. Wait until it gets fixed. -!-
#483 [09:40] <Grim_Reaper> topic append ~
#484 [09:40] <Brian-Afk> -!- The update currently does not work. Wait until it gets fixed. -!-
#485 [09:40] * xales kicked Brian-Afk from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rian-Afk :Don't spam.)
#486 [09:40] <Hero_James> Will there be an email sent out to us when its fixed?
#487 [09:40] <Grim_Reaper> No Hero_James
#488 [09:40] <xales> Hero_James: Has Mojang ever sent out email before for *anything*?
#489 [09:40] <Grim_Reaper> Just wait patiently for news on the forums/launcher
#490 [09:40] <xales> ._.
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#492 [09:40] <Hero_James> I dunno only joined yesterday
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#494 [09:41] <nce64> Im so mad to! I just got 30 legit dimonds and now their gone!
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#496 [09:41] <mib_8l9ekr> hallo kann mir jemand helfen?
#497 [09:41] <nirvanapwns> nce64 no they are not
#498 [09:41] <nirvanapwns> nce64 they are saved in the folder
#499 [09:41] <nce64> my .minecraft got deleted when I tried to fix it before coming here
#500 [09:42] <nirvanapwns> check recycling bin
#501 [09:42] <nce64> im an idiot...thanks
#502 [09:42] <mib_8l9ekr> hallo kann jemand deutsch?
#503 [09:42] <Hero_James> google translate
#504 [09:42] <tommylans> duits
#505 [09:43] <tommylans> ??
#506 [09:43] <nirvanapwns> backup yer saves folder :)
#507 [09:43] <mib_8l9ekr> german
#508 [09:43] <tommylans> ik kan NL
#509 [09:43] <tommylans> iemand NL
#510 [09:43] <BlackMesa> Okay, I do have a problem. After an Update just tuday, my minecraft shows a black screen after login, when the mojang logo should be shown. I already deleted and reloaded the .minecraft folder, I have the latest Java and the latest graphics driver. Can anybody help?
#511 [09:43] <xales> -!- The update currently does not work. Wait until it gets fixed. -!-
#512 [09:43] <tommylans> not work
#513 [09:44] <BlackMesa> Ah, okay... so its not "my fault". It will work again, right?
#514 [09:44] <xales> Correct.
#515 [09:44] <BlackMesa> Thank you! Have a nice day!
#516 [09:44] <tommylans> 3 uur
#517 [09:44] <tommylans> ??
#518 [09:44] <xales> (And you could make it work now if you know what "revert to the lwjgl distributed with the previous version" means) ._.
#519 [09:44] <tommylans> fix
#520 [09:45] <nirvanapwns> Just give mojang some time
#521 [09:45] <tommylans> yes
#522 [09:45] <BlackMesa> I would be able to understand, but I don't think you got either time or nerve to explain that. ^^
#523 [09:45] <tommylans> wait
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#525 [09:45] <mib_8l9ekr> is this again?
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#527 [09:46] <xales> BlackMesa: If you have a backup of the last version's bin folder, it should be fairly simple
#528 [09:46] <HeftySmurf> Who can help me with an error im receiving :)?
#529 [09:46] <xales> HeftySmurf: What error?
#530 [09:46] <HeftySmurf> Fatal Error Occurred (5): Unable to Validate Certificate Chain. Chain differs in Length [1 vs 3] Extracting: OpenAL32.dll
#531 [09:46] <nce64> its the bin folder?
#532 [09:46] <Sey> I got that error 2
#533 [09:46] <xales> HeftySmurf: The current update is not functional; wait for Mojang to fix it.
#534 [09:46] <BlackMesa> I don't think I do. I'll be pacient then. ^^ Thank you. I'm off now.
#535 [09:47] <HeftySmurf> oh is it the update? i thought it was my exe broken
#536 [09:47] <Hero_James> it looks like they are working on fixing the problem now
#537 [09:47] <nce64> update
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#539 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/jeb_/status/187527715455381504
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#542 [09:50] <nce64> any news on the fix?
#543 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/jeb_/status/187527715455381504
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#545 [09:51] <tommylans> error occured (5): unable to validate certificate chain. chain differs in length[1 extracting : openal32.dll 17%
#546 [09:51] <moppy> ah well, that's reassuring :)
#547 [09:51] <tommylans> by update
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#549 [09:51] <nce64> don't they test the updates?
#550 [09:52] <sine> whats this
#551 [09:52] <tommylans> update faled
#552 [09:52] <moppy> I'm pretty sure they test them on us :v
#553 [09:52] <sine> i just tried to update and im getting an error
#554 [09:52] <tommylans> work
#555 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/jeb_/status/187527715455381504
#556 [09:52] <tommylans> update
#557 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> ^
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#559 [09:52] <tommylans> 1.2.5
#560 [09:52] <tommylans> work
#561 [09:52] <frilejd> it works now :)
#562 [09:53] <nce64> it works?
#563 [09:53] <tommylans> yes update
#564 [09:54] <Calinou> new update out?
#565 [09:54] * Calinou answers to all the new features by mods
#565 [09:54] <moppy> huzzah
#566 [09:54] <Hero_James> can confirm 1.2.5 is now working update now
#567 [09:55] <nce64> YAY!!!
#568 [09:55] <tommylans> yaya
#569 [09:55] <Hero_James> thx bye
#570 [09:55] <tommylans> yay
#571 [09:55] <tommylans> bye
#572 [09:55] <tommylans> bye
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#574 [09:55] <Sey> Thx
#575 [09:55] <nirvanapwns> Minecraft is updated for reals
#576 [09:56] <nirvanapwns> confirmed!
#577 [09:57] <syntax> arrgh and i thought i had virus or something else -.-
#578 [09:57] <Calinou> minecraft is updated for real, bug list:
#579 [09:58] <Calinou> - you cannot play minecraft
#580 [09:58] <Calinou> :P
#581 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> Serves those people right
#582 [09:58] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#583 [09:58] <Grim_Reaper> Greedy updaters!
#584 [09:58] * Grim_Reaper hugs GreyVulpine and xales \o/
#584 [09:59] * Calinou gives a cookie to himself
#584 [10:00] <Matrixiumn> I can't talk in #minecraft
#585 [10:00] <xales> Matrixiumn: Did you read the topic?
#586 [10:01] <Matrixiumn> Oh
#587 [10:01] <Matrixiumn> Now I know why thank you :)
#588 [10:01] <Matrixiumn> Now I know why thank you :)
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#591 [10:03] <yshi> hello, i just updated to 1.2.5 and now i just get a blackscreen
#592 [10:04] <xales> ??> yshi forceupdate
#593 [10:04] <VoxelHead> yshi: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#594 [10:04] <VoxelHead> yshi: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#595 [10:06] <yshi> so far i have force updated, and then reinstalled from scrath
#596 [10:07] <yshi> http://pastebin.com/LyPbTQXN is what i get from terminal
#597 [10:07] <Grim_Reaper> Try forcing again please
#598 [10:07] <Grim_Reaper> There was a problem with the original 1.2.5
#599 [10:07] <Grim_Reaper> It should be fixed now
#600 [10:08] <yshi> I HAVE LIGHT
#601 [10:08] <yshi> cool thanks
#602 [10:08] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#603 [10:09] <yshi> i had just researched the problem and came across a post made after me about lwjgl problems?
#604 [10:09] <yshi> i was about to play with that, but this works better
#605 [10:09] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#606 [10:09] <Grim_Reaper> :p
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#608 [10:15] <sine> ok so this new server and new game client, there is something wrong because me and my freind on two different computers are getting lag
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#610 [10:21] <DiskDaemon> It's likely to take a day or two to find out the cause for such issues. The game updated less than half an hour ago.
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#624 [11:42] <McModder2> ...
#625 [11:42] <xales> …
#626 [11:43] <McModder2> Is the minecraft update fixed yet?
#627 [11:43] <xales> It has been for a while now.
#628 [11:43] <McModder2> ok thanks because it wasnt working for me... I will go try again.
#629 [11:44] <McModder2> YAY
#630 [11:44] <McModder2> thank you
#631 [11:44] <McModder2> thank you
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#636 [12:00] <deafro5> hey can somebody help me?
#637 [12:00] <WugBot> deafro5: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#638 [12:01] <deafro5> i placed in a request to change my password few weeks ago and have not gotten a response
#639 [12:01] <deafro5> my account has been compromised. is anyone here who can look into it for me please?
#640 [12:01] <xales> Did you use the password reset tool?
#641 [12:01] <deafro5> my account is migrated.
#642 [12:02] <xales> Again. Did you attempt to use the password reset tool?
#643 [12:02] <deafro5> where is that?
#644 [12:02] <deafro5> i tried resetting my password
#645 [12:02] <xales> https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#646 [12:02] <deafro5> i know my password for that
#647 [12:03] <deafro5> thats not the problem
#648 [12:03] <deafro5> i need to change my password for Minecraft itself
#649 [12:03] <xales> That *is* your password for Minecraft
#650 [12:03] <xales> Use your email address as your username
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#652 [12:04] <xales> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/428478-minecraft-account-types
#653 [12:04] <deafro5> "If you have migrated your account, and are concerned that someone has access to your old password (because it cannot be changed after migration), please contact us HERE, and we can randomize the old password, rendering it unusable. "
#654 [12:05] <xales> If you have submitted a request to have the old password invalidated and included all necessary information, you will just have to wait for Mojang to get back to you.
#655 [12:06] <deafro5> but dont you think 3 weeks has been too long?
#656 [12:06] <xales> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#657 [12:07] <deafro5> sigh.
#658 [12:07] <deafro5> so its gonna be about a months wait....
#659 [12:08] <xales> Perhaps if you didn't get your account compromised in the first place, there wouldn't be a problem :)
#660 [12:09] <Wug> ~.~
#661 [12:09] <xales> ~…~
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#663 [12:14] <Graxor> When is this blackscreen thing gonna end when i try to login after the update!!!!
#664 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png
#665 [12:15] <Wug> :fu
#666 [12:15] <WugBot> fu: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#667 [12:15] <WugBot> fu: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#668 [12:15] <Wug> ;~ fu You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.;;To do so, follow the directions in this picture: http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png
#669 [12:15] * GreyVulpine snrks
#669 [12:16] * Wug wipes the snrk off of GreyVulpine's face
#669 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> http://www.co-optimus.com/article/7975/sandswept-studios-requires-funding-to-finish-the-ultimate-zombie-game-the-dead-linger.html
#670 [12:16] * GreyVulpine is interested
#670 [12:16] <Wug> literally as opposed to metaphorically
#671 [12:17] <Graxor> i forced the update but still black ;D
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#673 [12:23] <Wug> WugBot: y people quit after asking question
#674 [12:23] <WugBot> people y u quit after asking question ლ(ﾟдﾟლ)
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#676 [12:24] <mib_iciuwo> hello
#677 [12:24] <Wug> mib_iciuwo: hello
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#679 [12:24] <mib_iciuwo> does anyone know when minecraft will be working again?
#680 [12:24] <Wug> have you tried force updating
#681 [12:24] <Wug> :fu
#682 [12:24] <WugBot> fu: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#683 [12:24] <WugBot> fu: To do so, follow the directions in this picture: http://i.imgur.com/5b09B.png
#684 [12:25] <mib_iciuwo> ty will this work for playing in the browser?
#685 [12:26] <Wug> you'll need to use the download browser to do it
#686 [12:26] <Wug> but if it works it should work in browser after that as well
#687 [12:27] <mib_iciuwo> ok forced an update with the .exe standalone and it works, how would I force with the browser?
#688 [12:27] <Wug> they share the same files, you shouldn't need to
#689 [12:27] <Wug> it should now work
#690 [12:28] <mib_iciuwo> works you are all awesome thanks for the help!
#691 [12:29] <Wug> np
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#695 [12:37] <matagin> Is there like a server admin help channel?
#696 [12:38] <Wug> matagin: we can probably help you here, what do you need
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#698 [12:38] <matagin> Anyone know a way to schedule mobs to spawn at a certain time and in a certain place?
#699 [12:39] <mandy> hey,did they fix that black screen?
#700 [12:39] <matagin> like i want 50 zombies to spawn in a town square at night
#701 [12:39] <Morrolan> "that black screen" can most likely be solved by doing a force update, mandy.
#702 [12:39] <Morrolan> matagin - There might be a CraftBukkit plugin for this.
#703 [12:39] <matagin> ok
#704 [12:40] <mandy> uhm,it didnt work before,thank you :)
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#707 [12:41] <matagin> what is the difference between bukkit and craftbukkit? or is bukkit just a shorter name?
#708 [12:41] <Morrolan> Craftbukkit is the actual server, Bukkit is the API if I recall correctly.
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#710 [12:41] <Morrolan> Most people use it alike though.
#711 [12:41] <matagin> ok thanks
#712 [12:41] <mandy> whats new in .5 version?
#713 [12:42] <Morrolan> mandy - Then you might want to grab the .jar launcher and start it through the command prompt / terminal so we get an error to work with.
#714 [12:42] <matagin> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/minecraft-1-2-5-is-out.68738/
#715 [12:42] <Morrolan> mandy - If you're on Windows then there are instructions in this Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#716 [12:42] <Morrolan> matagin - http://www.mojang.com/2012/03/minecraft-1-2-5-prerelease/ contains a changelog
#717 [12:42] <mandy> ok,thanks
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#720 [12:45] <islandcraft> help
#721 [12:45] <islandcraft> meee!!§!!§
#722 [12:45] <islandcraft> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111
#723 [12:45] <Morrolan> *cough*
#724 [12:45] <islandcraft> morrolan
#725 [12:45] <Morrolan> Aye?
#726 [12:46] <islandcraft> di have a question
#727 [12:46] <islandcraft> i*
#728 [12:46] <Morrolan> Figured you did.
#729 [12:46] <Wug> you should ask it next time, rather than spamming
#730 [12:47] <islandcraft> when i want my password back, i need to write username, when i write the username it will send to my mail right? but i cant get the mail for get my password back
#731 [12:48] <Morrolan> Checked your spam/junk folder?
#732 [12:48] <Morrolan> Also, after entering your username, does it spit out any error, or does it seem to succeed in sending that mail?
#733 [12:48] <Wug> I think you can recover your account by email address too
#734 [12:48] <islandcraft> nop not error
#735 [12:49] <islandcraft> how?
#736 [12:49] <Morrolan> islandcraft - Try what Wug suggested then. Instead of entering your username, click on "Forgot username?" and enter your mail address in the next box.
#737 [12:49] <Calinou> if you can't access the email address that you used to register on minecraft.net, there's not much to do, maybe contacting mojang support
#738 [12:49] <Morrolan> This'll assure that you're not checking the wrong mail account or similar.
#739 [12:49] <islandcraft> i can't get the username tho
#740 [12:50] <Morrolan> Calinou - I believe he only doesn't receive the "reset your password" mail, loging into his mail acc seems to work fine.
#741 [12:50] <Wug> islandcraft: are you sure you're using the right email address
#742 [12:50] <Wug> check any others that you have
#743 [12:50] <islandcraft> yes
#744 [12:50] <islandcraft> ok
#745 [12:53] <islandcraft> i got it in at another mail
#746 [12:53] <islandcraft> thanks
#747 [12:53] <islandcraft> thanks
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#749 [12:59] <Morrolan> Who would have guessed.
#750 [12:59] <Morrolan> It's always the same, that's boring. Takes all the fun out of betting on what the culprit will be.
#751 [12:59] <Morrolan> !check home.morrolan.ch:2601
#752 [12:59] <Morrolan> Thanks, AuBot.
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#754 [13:01] <mib9999> Hello
#755 [13:02] <mib9999> May I ask something 'bout Superperms?
#756 [13:02] <Wug> you would be better off asking in #bukkit
#757 [13:02] <Wug> they know about such things and I do not.
#758 [13:03] <mib9999> Thanks, bro
#759 [13:03] <mib9999> have a nice day
#760 [13:03] <Wug> this channel doesn't help with mods and/or plugins
#761 [13:03] <Wug> this channel doesn't help with mods and/or plugins
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#766 [13:19] <Nathan2055> ...GreyBot?
#767 [13:19] <Nathan2055> GreyVulpine: You have your own bot now?
#768 [13:19] <Nathan2055> Cool.
#769 [13:19] <Grim_Reaper> He's had one for aaaaages
#770 [13:19] <Grim_Reaper> Greybot is as old as GreyVulpine
#771 [13:19] <Nathan2055> He has?
#772 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Erm.. Greybot's been in here for a couple years now
#773 [13:19] <Nathan2055> Huh.
#774 [13:20] <Nathan2055> In any case, I have a Piston question.
#775 [13:20] * Nathan2055 asks if you remember the automatic door
#775 [13:20] <Nathan2055> That was me.
#776 [13:20] <Nathan2055> This is a little bit more simple.
#777 [13:20] <Nathan2055> I ahve two pistons stacked on top of each other,
#778 [13:21] <Nathan2055> With a lever attached to a block connected to one.
#779 [13:21] <Nathan2055> And redstone on top to power the upper one.
#780 [13:21] <Nathan2055> The upper one won't power.
#781 [13:21] <Nathan2055> Want a screenshot?
#782 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> That would help
#783 [13:22] <Nathan2055> Okay.
#784 [13:22] <Nathan2055> Let me upload it.
#785 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Also note, the bottom one will not push/retract the top one, if the top one is extended/powered.
#786 [13:23] <Nathan2055> Decided to use imgur for the first time today, it's actually pretty easy to use.
#787 [13:23] <Nathan2055> I like it.
#788 [13:24] <Morrolan> Yea, it's pretty neat.
#789 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Indeed.
#790 [13:24] <Nathan2055> http://i.imgur.com/Xwzl3.jpg
#791 [13:24] <Nathan2055> The top onw won't work.
#792 [13:24] <Morrolan> Sadly, imgur.com seems to be overloaded today.
#793 [13:24] <Nathan2055> *one
#794 [13:25] <Nathan2055> The picture loads fine for me.
#795 [13:25] * ______________________________ [______________________________@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#796 [13:25] <______________________________> what is the latest version of minecraft?
#797 [13:25] <______________________________> is it 1.25?
#798 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> 1.2.5
#799 [13:25] <Grim_Reaper> 1.2.5
#800 [13:25] <______________________________> ok
#801 [13:25] <______________________________> thanks
#802 [13:25] <Grim_Reaper> Please dont use such a long ___ nick =\
#803 [13:25] <Morrolan> Which will get added to the launcher tomorrow or so.
#804 [13:25] <______________________________> ok
#805 [13:25] <______________________________> sry
#806 [13:26] <Nathan2055> Yes, please.
#807 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - Already added
#808 [13:26] <Morrolan> Err.
#809 [13:26] <______________________________> bye
#810 [13:26] <Morrolan> Guess I'm behind again. ^^
#811 [13:26] <______________________________> Thanks for your help
#812 [13:26] <______________________________> Thanks for your help
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#814 [13:26] <Morrolan> o/
#815 [13:26] <Nathan2055> No, I'm running it right now.
#816 [13:26] <Grim_Reaper> I dont get why the _________ nick p-p
#817 [13:26] <Nathan2055> Cats aren't as annoying!
#818 [13:26] <Nathan2055> Hooray!
#819 [13:27] <Nathan2055> What about the piston problem?
#820 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> I.. don't know if that one block redstone is actually providing power to the top piston
#821 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Could you move the lever back another block?
#822 [13:27] <Nathan2055> Sure,
#823 [13:28] <Nathan2055> If I leave, it's my computers CPU getting maxed by MC.
#824 [13:28] <Nathan2055> :P
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#826 [13:29] <Nathan2055> Uploading the result
#827 [13:30] <Nathan2055> Ugh, imgur doesn't like MC being open.
#828 [13:31] <Nathan2055> Imgur is NOT liking me.
#829 [13:32] <Wug> dear jesus god
#830 [13:32] <Wug> I just grepped my entire log for "imgur"
#831 [13:32] <Nathan2055> What's wrong, Wug.
#832 [13:32] <Wug> I've gotten like 15000 results
#833 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Uh-oh
#834 [13:32] <Nathan2055> :imgur
#835 [13:32] <Nathan2055> :1.2
#836 [13:32] <WugBot> 1.2: Minecraft 1.2 is an official full release of Minecraft. It came out on 3/2/2012.
#837 [13:32] <Nathan2055> Hmm.
#838 [13:33] <Wug> ;~ 1.2 Minecraft 1.2.5 is an official full release of Minecraft. It came out on 3/2/2012.
#839 [13:33] <Nathan2055> Imgur keeps saying "Sorry! We couldn't upload that. Something happened and we were unable to upload your files. Please check that they aren't huge (over 2MB) and try again."
#840 [13:33] <Wug> ;~ 1.2 Minecraft 1.2.5 is an official full release of Minecraft. It came out on 4/4/2012.
#841 [13:33] <Wug> Nathan2055: is your file over 2MB
#842 [13:33] <Nathan2055> Thanks, Wug.
#843 [13:33] <Nathan2055> It's 700 KB.
#844 [13:33] <Nathan2055> I've tried about 6 times.
#845 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> Use Picasa or something, then.
#846 [13:34] <Wug> lol http://i.imgur.com/au5T0.png
#847 [13:34] <Morrolan> Chances are it's just imgur being slow or so.
#848 [13:34] <Nathan2055> Going to wait a second.
#849 [13:34] <Nathan2055> The result is the same though.
#850 [13:34] <Nathan2055> brb.
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#852 [13:37] <jkhvgeagff> HELLO
#853 [13:37] <jkhvgeagff> == jkhvgeagff [webchat@vance004.net.gov.bc.ca] has joined #minecrafthelp [10:37] -AuBot- JUST ASK YOUR QUESTION, IF WE CAN HELP WE WILL. PLEASE BE PATIENT, WE CAN'T ANSWER YOU IF YOU QUIT AFTER 10 SECONDS. | Channel rules: http://u.kealper.com/rules
#854 [13:38] <Boreeas> !kick jkhvgeagff Spam
#855 [13:38] * AuBot kicked jkhvgeagff from #minecrafthelp (Reason: khvgeagff :I love you too! <3 (Issued by Boreeas with reason: Spam))
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#857 [13:38] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#858 [13:38] <Boreeas> I did indeed
#859 [13:38] <Boreeas> You spammed, after all
#860 [13:38] <youkickedme> have a nice day
#861 [13:38] <Boreeas> You too
#862 [13:39] <Boreeas> !kick imnotch Impersonation
#863 [13:39] * AuBot kicked imnotch from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mnotch :Uh oh! Looks like someone should have read the rules! (Issued by Boreeas with reason: Impersonation))
#864 [13:39] <Boreeas> :)
#865 [13:40] <Nathan2055> Okay, I'm back.
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#867 [13:40] <Nathan2055> Let's try the upload again.
#868 [13:40] <Wug> dontkickmeagain: stop earning kicks
#869 [13:41] <Wug> and you will stop receiving them
#870 [13:41] <dontkickmeagain> I updated my graphics driver and now google chrome shows blcak screen on some sites
#871 [13:41] <Wug> were you here yesterday
#872 [13:41] <dontkickmeagain> erm
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#874 [13:42] <dontkickmeagain> yes
#875 [13:42] <dontkickmeagain> and it wont go away iis it viruz?
#876 [13:42] <Nathan2055> Got ya!
#877 [13:42] <Nathan2055> It's working!
#878 [13:42] <Wug> dontkickmeagain: unlikely
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#880 [13:42] <Wug> I have no idea what it is
#881 [13:42] <Nathan2055> http://i.imgur.com/kMDHs.png
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#883 [13:43] <dontkickmeagain> :( should i resotre compooter
#884 [13:43] * Wug kicked l|l|l|l|l|l| from #minecrafthelp (Reason: |l|l|l|l|l| :one at a time)
#885 [13:43] <Wug> I'd try searching for a driver that didnt have issues
#886 [13:44] <Wug> you are looking on the laptop manufacturer's website if you are the person I think you are
#887 [13:44] <dontkickmeagain> yes
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#889 [13:44] <Wug> try looking on the graphics card makers website
#890 [13:44] <dontkickmeagain> i did, i got the right one, and then it said it wasnt compatible with my software
#891 [13:44] <Nathan2055> GreyVulpine: I moved the lever.
#892 [13:44] <Nathan2055> http://i.imgur.com/kMDHs.png
#893 [13:45] <dontkickmeagain> thats first thing i did
#894 [13:45] * GreyVulpine nods
#894 [13:45] <Wug> dontkickmeagain: then ask the laptop manufacturer for support
#895 [13:45] <Wug> its an issue with their driver and its their fault
#896 [13:45] <dontkickmeagain> ill go yell at them
#897 [13:45] <Wug> perfect :)
#898 [13:46] <Nathan2055> Grey: It's not working.
#899 [13:46] <Wug> Nathan2055: pistons cannot move extended pistons
#900 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> If you want to activate and deactivate those two pistons, you'll need a more complex circuit than that
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#902 [13:47] <Wug> nor can they move chests, workbenches, furnaces, enchanting or brewing tables, obsidian, bedrock, or more than 12 blocks in a row
#903 [13:47] <Wug> I may have forgot some
#904 [13:48] <dontkickmeagain> are you 100% sure it not viruz
#905 [13:50] <Boreeas> "viruz"
#906 [13:50] <dontkickmeagain> yes
#907 [13:50] <Boreeas> It is called a V1r\/z
#908 [13:51] <dontkickmeagain> V1r\/z V1r\/z V1r\/z V1r\/z V1r\/z V1r\/z V1r\/z
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#910 [13:51] <Nathan2055> My internet borked my client.
#911 [13:51] <Nathan2055> :P
#912 [13:51] <Boreeas> Another satisfied customer!
#913 [13:51] <Wug> Boreeas: he was here yesterday
#914 [13:51] <Nathan2055> What were you saying a second ago.
#915 [13:52] <Wug> I have no idea what happened but I suspect that amd's shitty drivers dont work
#916 [13:52] <Nathan2055> About pistons not being able to push certain blocks.
#917 [13:52] <Boreeas> [19:47:41]<Wug>nor can they move chests, workbenches, furnaces, enchanting or brewing tables, obsidian, bedrock, or more than 12 blocks in a row
#918 [13:52] <Wug> pistons cannot push extended pistons, chests, workbenches, furnaces, enchanting or brewing tables, obsidian, bedrock, or more than 12 blocks in a row
#919 [13:53] <Nathan2055> I think they can push workbenches,
#920 [13:53] <Nathan2055> But nothing with an inventory
#921 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> not true
#922 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> they can push players.
#923 [13:53] <Wug> nothing with a tile entity
#924 [13:53] <Wug> and also not obsidian or bedrock, or more than 12 blocks in a row
#925 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> sure, move the goalposts on me. :p
#926 [13:54] <Nathan2055> How can I build a correct circuit?
#927 [13:54] <Wug> Nathan2055: if you're relying on a piston pushing another extended piston, you will have to rethink your design
#928 [13:55] <Wug> its not that its not getting power, its that it's unable to move
#929 [13:57] <Nathan2055> Put a block in between!
#930 [13:57] <Wug> that wont work
#931 [13:57] <Nathan2055> But I would need a sticky...
#932 [13:57] <Nathan2055> Yeah.
#933 [13:57] <Nathan2055> Hey, wait a second.
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#935 [13:58] <Nathan2055> That won't work...
#936 [14:00] <Nathan2055> I need to raise a two block wide hole in a wall with pistons.
#937 [14:00] <Nathan2055> How do I do that?
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#939 [14:03] <Boreeas> One up, one down
#940 [14:03] <Nathan2055> Huh?
#941 [14:04] <|Kiikun|> you want a doorway thats 2x2?
#942 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Put it this way. You need to have a circuit that, when on, turns the top one on, then the bottom. When off, power needs to stop flowing to the bottom first, then the top.
#943 [14:04] <|Kiikun|> but otherwise flush?
#944 [14:04] <Calinou> "workbenches" workbenches can be pushed IIRC
#945 [14:04] <Calinou> they are not tile entities
#946 [14:05] <|Kiikun|> Calinou: they can. chests and furnaces cant
#947 [14:05] <Calinou> Nathan2055, you want a piston door?
#948 [14:05] <Nathan2055> Hmm.
#949 [14:05] <Nathan2055> Yes.
#950 [14:05] <Calinou> the largest, easy-to-do piston door is 4x(some big height)
#951 [14:05] <Calinou> 4 being width
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#953 [14:05] <Boreeas> I think I made a 3*2 (or 4*2) one once
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#955 [14:08] <Nathan2055> What's the best way to get Slime?
#956 [14:08] <|Kiikun|> 2-wide or 2-tall are easy. its when you get larger :P
#957 [14:08] <|Kiikun|> find a slime chunk
#958 [14:09] <Nathan2055> How do I do that?
#959 [14:09] <|Kiikun|> if youve run into slimes while caving below 40.. you found one or are near one :P
#960 [14:10] <Nathan2055> Huh.
#961 [14:10] <|Kiikun|> if you havent found any... or dont consider outside tools cheatery... http://mcslimes.appspot.com/
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#963 [14:12] <Nathan2055> All I got was a big green square,
#964 [14:12] <Nathan2055> It's bugged,
#965 [14:12] <Nathan2055> I put in my seed, and left the coords blank.
#966 [14:14] <|Kiikun|> if you left all the coords blank then its only showing one chuink
#967 [14:14] <|Kiikun|> and that happens to be a slime chunk :P
#968 [14:14] * Nathan2055 laughs
#968 [14:14] <Nathan2055> I'd better get some coords, then.
#969 [14:15] <|Kiikun|> log in and use f3 (or shift f3)
#970 [14:15] <|Kiikun|> then i like to use those and a radius of 200
#971 [14:15] <|Kiikun|> gives you a nice overview
#972 [14:15] <Nathan2055> Okay.
#973 [14:18] <Nathan2055> I'm at 173X 92Z.
#974 [14:19] <Nathan2055> I'm going to put in those values and 373 and 292 as the other values, respectively.
#975 [14:20] <Nathan2055> That didn't work.
#976 [14:22] <Nathan2055> Kiikun: I decided to switch and put in X173, Z92, distance 100.
#977 [14:23] <Nathan2055> I got 20 Slime chunks.
#978 [14:23] <Nathan2055> Kiikun?
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#980 [14:28] <Nathan2055> |Kiikun|?
#981 [14:29] <|Kiikun|> hmm?
#982 [14:29] <|Kiikun|> that gives you a 'map' of what chunks are slime-spawnable.
#983 [14:30] <|Kiikun|> each chunk is 16x16. and slimes only spawn below y40
#984 [14:30] * |Kiikun| is currently harrasing youtube for monetizing rights
#984 [14:30] <Nathan2055> Okay then.
#985 [14:30] <Nathan2055> Time to go hunting.
#986 [14:30] <Nathan2055> See you!
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#988 [14:32] <WillN> Hello
#989 [14:32] <WillN> Is there a new update today?
#990 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> yes
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#993 [14:52] <Narcan> can you tell my why there's an update every two weaks? i hate waiting for the mod's updates :/... why don't they release bigger updates?
#994 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> Because then people will complain that there's not enough updates
#995 [14:56] <Narcan> but there aren't any new features or functions in the new update
#996 [14:56] <Narcan> who cares about fixed bugs, which i never noticed?
#997 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> I apologize for the inconvenience, but modders are responsible for keeping their own mods up to date. 1.2.5 was available as a prerelease a week before it was rolled out on the launcher.
#998 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Mojang has no connection to third-party modders, and can't force them to update faster.
#999 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> Sense of entitlement, party of one? Your table is ready.
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#1001 [15:04] <Narcan> well, you're right :/
#1002 [15:04] <Narcan> but i heard they were working together with the bukkit team
#1003 [15:05] <Narcan> that's at least something
#1004 [15:16] <Scott> No.
#1005 [15:17] <Scott> They hired some of the developers that worked on Bukkit to work on the official server software.
#1006 [15:17] <Scott> they're not working together with the bukkit team, they hired part of the bukkit team to work on their software. :P
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#1010 [15:36] * Kealper heard that they will be learning from Bukkit's mistakes and not making them again though
#1010 [15:36] <raffzilla> my minecraft launcher wont work it wont let me connect to minecraft.net and if i play offline it goes to a black screen
#1011 [15:36] <Kealper> i really really really REALLY hope one of those "mistakes" was YAML configs
#1012 [15:36] <Kealper> raffzilla: do you have any firewall or antivirus software installed?
#1013 [15:36] <raffzilla> yes
#1014 [15:37] <Kealper> raffzilla: try adding minecraft.exe as an exception
#1015 [15:37] <raffzilla> ok
#1016 [15:38] <Kealper> also, does the game work fine in the browser?
#1017 [15:39] <raffzilla> no it just does a update says done loading and stays there
#1018 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> ! in windows username
#1019 [15:41] <raffzilla> minecraft is already a exception on my firewall
#1020 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Betting you have a ! symbol in your windows username
#1021 [15:42] <raffzilla> whats that?
#1022 [15:42] <Morrolan> An exclamation mark.
#1023 [15:42] <raffzilla> ino that i mean the wondows username
#1024 [15:42] <raffzilla> windows*
#1025 [15:42] <Morrolan> It's the name which you use to log in when starting up your PC. It's the one which shows up on the login screen.
#1026 [15:43] <Morrolan> The one you click and enter your password afterwards. :)
#1027 [15:43] <raffzilla> oh right
#1028 [15:43] <raffzilla> i put 3 in myslef
#1029 [15:44] <Kealper> ahh, that's the problem then... for some reason Minecraft hates it when your Windows username has ! characters in it
#1030 [15:45] <raffzilla> you see if this works LMAO so will i change that :L
#1031 [15:45] <Kealper> just changing it won't fix the issue :/
#1032 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/!
#1033 [15:45] <VoxelHead> win/!: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#1034 [15:45] <VoxelHead> win/!: Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#1035 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Use that ^
#1036 [15:45] <Kealper> because the folder that all your stuff (including Minecraft's files) will still have that ! in it
#1037 [15:46] <raffzilla> i changed the name will that work
#1038 [15:46] <Kealper> raffzilla: nope, it won't have any effect by just changing the name like that... try what VoxelHead just said
#1039 [15:46] <raffzilla> ok
#1040 [15:47] <raffzilla> what if i delete and download it again
#1041 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't work.
#1042 [15:48] <Morrolan> If you don't want to execute this script then the easiest solution would be to create a new user account.
#1043 [15:48] <raffzilla> ok will is there anyway i can get talking to use again if i do make a new one
#1044 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#1045 [15:49] <raffzilla> like how can i get in this chat ifit doesnt work
#1046 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Head to http://webchat.esper.net/ -- We're in the #minecrafthelp channel
#1047 [15:50] <raffzilla> ok
#1048 [15:52] <raffzilla> ok iv made a new one
#1049 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> A new... windows user account?
#1050 [15:53] <raffzilla> yes
#1051 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Switch to it, try running minecraft under that new account
#1052 [15:53] <raffzilla> kk
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#1056 [16:00] <lingmon> Is anyone else having trouble purchasing minecraft?
#1057 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Typically, the problem lies with the bank or financial institution.
#1058 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> :payment/stopped
#1059 [16:01] <WugBot> payment/stopped: Banks, credit card companies, etc. frequently stop minecraft purchases for your protection because they are international transactions. You may have to call your financial institution and ask that they approve the transfer.
#1060 [16:01] <WugBot> payment/stopped: If you're not sure what to say, tell them: "I would like to make an international purchase and payment is being declined. How would I go about approving the purchase?"
#1061 [16:02] <lingmon> I called my bank to make sure there wasn't any hold on any online purchases
#1062 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Was there a record of a transaction going to Mojang?
#1063 [16:03] <lingmon> I believe so. It gave me a order#
#1064 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Through your bank, I mean.
#1065 [16:04] <lingmon> They said there was a pending transaction for an unknown amount
#1066 [16:04] <lingmon> but that was like 2 hours ago
#1067 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> If it was pending, then your bank has not yet completed the transaction.
#1068 [16:06] <lingmon> ic, so its best I wait then?
#1069 [16:06] * GreyVulpine nods
#1069 [16:06] <lingmon> Alright thanks alot
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#1071 [16:09] <ronanraff> hello
#1072 [16:09] <Morrolan> 'lo
#1073 [16:11] <Morrolan> And off he goes.
#1074 [16:19] <WillN> whats this new experience bar and enchanting shrine?
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#1076 [16:20] <WillN> Last I played was when the carts bug still worked
#1077 [16:20] <WillN> where you could use one cart to speed another one up
#1078 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> That was fixed back in beta..
#1079 [16:20] <WillN> right after the boat elevator patch
#1080 [16:20] <WillN> yup thats when I last played
#1081 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> beta 1.4-ish or so
#1082 [16:21] <WillN> lot of changes since then I take it?
#1083 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Very much so
#1084 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> New map format. Higher map height, bunch of new biomes, new mob AI..
#1085 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> villages and villagers, "The End", as a new dimension
#1086 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> And that's just barely scratching the surface
#1087 [16:23] <WillN> dont know what a biome is
#1088 [16:23] <WillN> villages?
#1089 [16:23] <Morrolan> Climatic zones.
#1090 [16:23] <WillN> I havent seen any villages yet
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#1092 [16:29] <WillN> what is herobrine
#1093 [16:29] <WillN> I see it removed on every patch
#1094 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Some silly joke that got out of hand.
#1095 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Some silly joke that got out of hand.
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#1097 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> See http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/herobrine
#1098 [16:35] <NinjaKirby> I can't believe even by Windows 7, I can't use Question Marks in file names. I thought they built Windows "from the ground up" at least a couple of times, pfffffft, they should switch to a different ASCII Argument identifier.
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#1100 [16:35] <NinjaKirby> Why not the double line ¦ or perhaps the ¬
#1101 [16:36] <Boreeas> Why not Ë™
#1102 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Nobody knows what the pipe symbol is, and ¬ isn't generally on a keyboard.
#1103 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> and if you use `, people won't be able to distinguish it from '
#1104 [16:37] <NinjaKirby> lol, "nobody knows", sounds like a good thriller mystery story behind that
#1105 [16:38] <NinjaKirby> Just where did the ¦ come from? Can it be explained? All on the next episode of "Mysteries from beyond the dominion"
#1106 [16:38] <|Kiikun|> ¦ is just | after getting shot :P
#1107 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> I blame aliens influencing ancient egyptian religions.
#1108 [16:38] * xales is fairly certain it exists to be a pipe
#1108 [16:39] <NinjaKirby> inb4 Pyramids are spacecraft landing platforms
#1109 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, that's what they want you to believe.
#1110 [16:39] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: and taking ancient humans from Earth thousands of years ago, to plant them all over the galaxy and enslave them
#1111 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> They're actually abandoned alien brothels.
#1112 [16:39] <Kealper> ^
#1113 [16:40] <|Kiikun|> lol
#1114 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> Why else would there be corridors leading to dead-ends and tons of rooms?
#1115 [16:41] <NinjaKirby> Glorious interpretation
#1116 [16:41] <|Kiikun|> because all the redstone was removed. they were generating plants.
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#1118 [16:44] <NinjaKirby> lol Cooldude?
#1119 [16:45] <NinjaKirby> He has more then just MC problems day in day out, it seems
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#1121 [16:47] <M1n3cr4ftr> yo wug
#1122 [16:48] * NinjaKirby grins
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#1128 [16:54] <M1n3cr4ftr> im bored
#1129 [16:55] <M1n3cr4ftr> last block of school is boooring
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#1134 [17:08] <xxXSavageXxx> hi anyone here?
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#1136 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Nope. Just 165 of us
#1137 [17:08] <xxXSavageXxx> I NEED HELP
#1138 [17:08] <Gurkenglas> Does someone know a server with the little blocks mod?
#1139 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1140 [17:08] <Jackson413> lolwut?
#1141 [17:09] <Jackson413> minecraft is little blocks bro?
#1142 [17:09] <xxXSavageXxx> minecraft like changed my password and they never sent an email back about resetting it!!
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#1144 [17:09] <|Kiichan|> Gurkenglas: ask in smp or check the forums
#1145 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> :resetpass
#1146 [17:09] <WugBot> resetpass: You can reset the password for your minecraft account using the following page: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1147 [17:09] <Gurkenglas> kk
#1148 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> xxXSavageXxx - Use ^
#1149 [17:10] <xxXSavageXxx> that dont work it says succses than it never sends it to me
#1150 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Check all your email accounts. It does send an email
#1151 [17:10] <xxXSavageXxx> i have only 1
#1152 [17:10] <|Kiichan|> check spam blocker too
#1153 [17:10] <Boreeas> And if it doesn't, someone hacked your account and you've probably lost it for good. Congratulations.
#1154 [17:11] <xxXSavageXxx> and i cant play mutiplayer D:
#1155 [17:11] <xxXSavageXxx> I hate my life D:
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#1157 [17:11] * |Kiichan| triggers a reset email for his not-migrated account
#1157 [17:12] <xxXSavageXxx> ill try another help site
#1158 [17:12] <|Kiichan|> just recieved mine
#1159 [17:12] <|Kiichan|> ... like someone else will help you better? :/
#1160 [17:12] <Boreeas> ^
#1161 [17:12] <Boreeas> He totally got hacked
#1162 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Obviously. We just don't have access to the "Fix everything" button.
#1163 [17:13] <|Kiichan|> ... damned my girlfriend is really influencing me. i was justabout to ask "well, why not?" x.x
#1164 [17:14] <Jackson413> lololol
#1165 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Hourly premium of a box of girl scout cookies, and nuclear launch codes.
#1166 [17:14] <Jackson413> just bashed that Kiichan
#1167 [17:14] <Jackson413> that rocks haha
#1168 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> I can't afford that, Mojang doesn't pay us
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#1170 [17:14] <|Kiichan|> lol
#1171 [17:14] <Jackson413> im totally downloading battlefield heroes right now
#1172 [17:15] <Jackson413> feel like I can troll people well
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#1174 [17:15] <napoleon> GUYS I NEED HELP
#1175 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> We still can't help you on your password problem. Check all your email accounts
#1176 [17:16] <napoleon> I HAVE 1 and it said the account is not on record??!!!!
#1177 [17:16] <napoleon> i speeled it correct
#1178 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Then that's not the email account that's tied to the MC account, according to Mojang's records.
#1179 [17:17] <napoleon> But how? it was 2 days ago
#1180 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Did you mistakenly put in some other email account? Or did you migrate your minecraft account to a shared Mojang account? Were you perhaps hacked?
#1181 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> In any case, you'll need to prove to Mojang that you own the account, and contact them about it to get it straightened out: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1182 [17:18] <napoleon> i didnt migrate and i dont know any hackers
#1183 [17:18] <napoleon> how would i prove that ??
#1184 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> The receipt that you got when you purchased minecraft?
#1185 [17:18] <napoleon> i didnt get one
#1186 [17:18] <|Kiichan|> the transaction code from purchase is best.
#1187 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Did you purchase minecraft yourself?
#1188 [17:19] <napoleon> yes
#1189 [17:19] <|Kiichan|> then you got one. most likely from moneybookers or paypal.
#1190 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Then you would have gotten at least 2 emails, one from Mojang with the order number, and one from the payment provider with the transaction ID
#1191 [17:19] <napoleon> but its not in my email inbox or trash
#1192 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Then unfortunately, if you don't have the receipt, Mojang cannot determine that you're the real owner of the account. I don't know what else to suggest here.
#1193 [17:20] <napoleon> its like they switched everything thet sent me to another email
#1194 [17:21] <|Kiichan|> or you typoed your email...
#1195 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> Yes, it's all a conspiracy. Mojang's out to ruin your minecraft career.
#1196 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> Or you just simply forgot which email you used.
#1197 [17:21] <napoleon> no because it got verifyed
#1198 [17:22] <napoleon> OMG I CANOT BELIVE MOJANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1199 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Mojang didn't change your email address.
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#1201 [17:23] <|Kiichan|> napoleon: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#1202 [17:23] <napoleon> how did it change
#1203 [17:23] <napoleon> ok ill try
#1204 [17:23] <|Kiichan|> i believe changing email addresses.... yeah... requires access to the original email address anyway
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#1206 [17:35] <Gurkenglas> What happened to that official mod api thing?
#1207 [17:36] <|Kiichan|> still in the progress. they just got the team from bukkit hired to get it going
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#1209 [17:39] <DiskDaemon> It will be a process that takes many months, before we get to see much of anything
#1210 [17:39] <Karnil> Is it impossible to tame baby ozelots?
#1211 [17:39] <|Kiichan|> Karnil: yes. same as with adults
#1212 [17:40] <Karnil> i tamed an adult. But the babies didn't want my fish
#1213 [17:40] <|Kiichan|> DiskDaemon: possibly. ive heard talk of shifting the game so you can 'invite' players into a singleplayer world. no need to move it to a server first... infact there not even being a difference between server and singleplayer
#1214 [17:41] <|Kiichan|> Karnil: it might have been a recent fix... just saw cleo tame 2 baby oces
#1215 [17:41] <Karnil> well maybe. :/
#1216 [17:41] <|Kiichan|> and i know ocelots can be.. troublesome and take alot of fish at times
#1217 [17:42] <Karnil> well it didn't take any fish at all. I would always start eating the fish not give it away
#1218 [17:43] <Karnil> And i don't think i was too far away. I could post a screenshot if it's okay
#1219 [17:43] <|Kiichan|> you has somethign blocking your 'reach' to the oce?
#1220 [17:43] <|Kiichan|> Karnil: imgur :3
#1221 [17:43] <Karnil> imgur?
#1222 [17:43] <Gurkenglas> DiskDaemon, didnt they say that last year and said they should have results by january-march?
#1223 [17:43] <|Kiichan|> http://imgur.com/
#1224 [17:44] <Karnil> i uploaded it to imageshack already
#1225 [17:44] <|Kiichan|> oh. then link away
#1226 [17:44] <Karnil> http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/8724/20120404203232.png
#1227 [17:45] <|Kiichan|> the vines might have gotten in the way. ive noticed that as an issue sometimes
#1228 [17:45] <|Kiichan|> also.. lol at your friend drowning :P
#1229 [17:46] <Karnil> I don't think so because i chased that little rascal (ofcourse always waiting for it to calm down again) along a beach and whereever
#1230 [17:46] <Karnil> Well it was on a public server
#1231 [17:46] <|Kiichan|> ill give it a test in one of my testign worlds.
#1232 [17:47] <Karnil> well if you can verify my thought you can update the wikis ;)
#1233 [17:47] <Karnil> Good night
#1234 [17:47] <Karnil> Good night
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#1237 [18:01] <Nathan2055> I need Slime help.
#1238 [18:02] <Nathan2055> I built a 12 x 12 x 2 area in a Slime chunk at layer 30 and have gotten 0 spawns over about three MC days.
#1239 [18:06] <|Kiichan|> slimes only spawn 1/10th the time. and its possible youve hit the mob cap before one spawns
#1240 [18:07] <|Kiichan|> especially if theres unlit tunnels all around.... or your sitting in the room and thus makign it unspawnable
#1241 [18:08] <Nathan2055> I'm sitting about 18 blocks away
#1242 [18:08] <Nathan2055> I need to make it higher, and larger.
#1243 [18:09] <|Kiichan|> height in the chunk shouldnt matter. so long as its below 40. and yes make the pad itself the full 16x16 and the channels outside of it
#1244 [18:10] <Nathan2055> I meant take out part of the roof to make it 12 x 12 x 3 or 4
#1245 [18:10] <|Kiichan|> oh. lol.
#1246 [18:10] <Nathan2055> But, yes, I need to expand to 16 x 16
#1247 [18:10] <|Kiichan|> 3 shoudl be good for the large slimes to spawn. 4 gives them more hopping room
#1248 [18:11] <Nathan2055> I'll do 4 just in case. I
#1249 [18:11] <Nathan2055> I'll return if it still doesn't work.
#1250 [18:11] <Nathan2055> Thanks!
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#1252 [18:18] <Wug> <Nathan2055> [18:07:05] I'm sitting about 18 blocks away
#1253 [18:18] <Wug> mobs wont spawn within 24 blocks of the player
#1254 [18:18] <Wug> move further away
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#1256 [18:21] * GhostNathan2055 says "Thanks, Wug!"
#1256 [18:21] <Nathan2055> Saw what you said. Will move farther away.
#1257 [18:21] <Wug> ok
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#1260 [18:29] <nobodykr> Hi, i just bought the game 20€ and i cant login onto the client, its says: user not premium ..
#1261 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> User not premium means the account hasn't been marked as paid for yet
#1262 [18:29] <nobodykr> Oh, and how long can it take ?
#1263 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> It depends on how fast your bank does transactions.
#1264 [18:30] <nobodykr> its not on bank
#1265 [18:30] <nobodykr> its direct transfer from a single "virtual card"
#1266 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> And who manages that 'virtual card'?
#1267 [18:30] <nobodykr> well, at league of legends they give me the "product" right away so
#1268 [18:31] <nobodykr> and every thing i bought until now was real in seconds
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#1270 [18:31] <nobodykr> Thank you for purchasing Minecraft!
#1271 [18:31] <nobodykr> To play the game, visit http://www.minecraft.net/ and either download the game, or play it directly in your web browser.
#1272 [18:31] <nobodykr> i just got that email
#1273 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Usually, premium is immediate, because the process is simple on Mojang's end. Once Mojang gets confirmation of payment from the bank, it automatically turns the account to premium
#1274 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> If the bank stops payment, or puts a hold on it, then Mojang hasn't gotten the payment yet
#1275 [18:32] <nobodykr> hmm, ill keep trying
#1276 [18:32] <nobodykr> Thanks a lot GreyVulpine ur really cool guy (:
#1277 [18:33] <nobodykr> Btw, i got that email right ? nd got the other from the debit of my credit card, so its like, all good right ?
#1278 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> It's likely you may need to wait a little bit of time for the payment to be processed.
#1279 [18:34] <nobodykr> Oh ok, for somereason i got 2 accounts -.-
#1280 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#1281 [18:35] <nobodykr> how dumb am i LOL, im sorry this was totally my fault * sorry to waste ur time and hope you keep the good work
#1282 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay. No worries.
#1283 [18:35] <nobodykr> one more question, is it possible to change nickname ? :D
#1284 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> It is not possible, unfortunately.
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#1290 [19:02] <Dan> is there a way to connect wom mc client to a localhost mc server so i can make some videos on mc?
#1291 [19:04] <|Kiichan|> dunno. ask on the WOM forums.
#1292 [19:05] <Dan> well im asking cause i know you have to pay for mc and i just want to try and use it on my localhost for now and then move it to a server i run for my web host for fun
#1293 [19:07] <|Kiichan|> WoM is classic, which is free on the website. you can run a classic server locally then access it though the classic multiplayer page
#1294 [19:08] <|Kiichan|> but.. i think WoM is multiplayer only... so not sure about anything regarding them since they arnt somethign we support
#1295 [19:08] <Dan> is there a way to force the server to classic?
#1296 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> No. The classic server is a seperate application
#1297 [19:09] <|Kiichan|> http://www.minecraft.net/classic/list
#1298 [19:09] <|Kiichan|> the link for the server software is right at the beginning
#1299 [19:10] <sugoi> Dan: i feel like what you're looking for is a demo, there is none -- the online classic game is the closest you'll get to a free demo
#1300 [19:10] <sugoi> that should give you a taste, the real game has come a lot further
#1301 [19:11] <sugoi> also, check with the recommended hardware to make sure you can run the game
#1302 [19:11] <|Kiichan|> he wants to do videos of stuff in classic from what it sounded liek to me
#1303 [19:11] <sugoi> and lastly, only ONLY buy directly from minecraft.net
#1304 [19:11] <Dan> no im not looking for a demo cause i know there isnt and im going to pay for it next week when i get the money but im just wanting to make some videos on it for now on classic to show
#1305 [19:11] <sugoi> then record your play via the online classic game
#1306 [19:11] <Dan> trust me, im in web hosting so i know to do my research into sites and question everything
#1307 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Classic and Premium are vastly different in what they offer in terms of gameplay and features.
#1308 [19:12] <|Kiichan|> and theres an older demo thats far newer than classic.
#1309 [19:12] <|Kiichan|> ?? demo
#1310 [19:12] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#1311 [19:12] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#1312 [19:12] <|Kiichan|> its beta 1.5
#1313 [19:13] <sugoi> oops
#1314 [19:13] <sugoi> forgot about that
#1315 [19:13] <sugoi> Dan: sorry :)
#1316 [19:13] <Dan> just so you know im on Ubuntu (linux) so really PC Games wont work that great under wineHQ
#1317 [19:13] <sugoi> Dan: mc runs on java, no wine necessary
#1318 [19:13] <sugoi> Dan: i play mc on gentoo, runs awesome
#1319 [19:14] <Dan> i know
#1320 [19:14] <|Kiichan|> but the pcg demo is... not easy to set up for anythign but wiondows
#1321 [19:14] <|Kiichan|> its still java.... but you need to fenagle it onto other OSs and i dunno how :P
#1322 [19:14] <sugoi> |Kiichan|: what's that about?
#1323 [19:15] <|Kiichan|> the PC Gamer demo is for windows. only :/
#1324 [19:15] <|Kiichan|> no mac or linux demos. ive heard you can make it work on mac or linux but requires trickery that ui never found out
#1325 [19:15] <sugoi> what i mean is, do you know why?
#1326 [19:15] <|Kiichan|> because its an exe :P
#1327 [19:16] <sugoi> haha
#1328 [19:16] <sugoi> oh
#1329 [19:16] <sugoi> :)
#1330 [19:16] <|Kiichan|> HAH!
#1331 [19:16] <|Kiichan|> :P
#1332 [19:16] <sugoi> i wonder if ...
#1333 [19:16] <|Kiichan|> no you cant be muted
#1334 [19:16] <Pepper> Voice overrides +m, +q, and +b
#1335 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> Caveat with that last mode..
#1336 [19:17] <Pepper> Provided you don't leave the channel, yes
#1337 [19:17] <sugoi> |Kiichan|: oh, i get your laugh now (my messages are filtered to another window, and sometimes i miss them)
#1338 [19:17] <|Kiichan|> heh
#1339 [19:17] <sugoi> and by 'msgs' i really mean "MSGS PUBLICS NOTICES SNOTES JOINS PARTS QUITS KICKS NICKS"
#1340 [19:17] <Dan> hey what is the min ram and cpu should a server have?
#1341 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Dan - Depends on how many you plan to host for.
#1342 [19:18] <sugoi> Dan: check out canihostaminecraftserver.com
#1343 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Also if you'll be running a vanilla or modded server.
#1344 [19:18] <sugoi> it's reasonable :) but doesn't mention cpu, i'd recommend 2core @ 2ghz minimum
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#1346 [19:20] <Dan> well im self hosting an 11 year old IRC server so that is why im asking
#1347 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell us how many people you plan to host for, and whether or not you plan to run a modded server?
#1348 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Also, what sort of bandwidth are you looking at for the server?
#1349 [19:21] <Dan> just looking to host a few friends and no just a reg server
#1350 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Would this be a windows server, *nix, or something else?
#1351 [19:23] <Dan> *nix (ubuntu)
#1352 [19:24] <Dan> you will never see me on Windows unless i have to be on it
#1353 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> I'd say, a gig of RAM would be plenty for a vanilla server up to around 10-20 people. Traffic, is around 10-150K/sec per player. Minecraft doesn't take full advantage of multiple cores (yet), but any multi-core processor should serve you nicely
#1354 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> I haven't really done a recent traffic/load test, but back in 1.0 or so, I usually saw 40-80K/sec per player upload-wise on average.
#1355 [19:28] <Dan> well that shouldnt be a problem and do you know what i should put in admin.txt for users to be admins
#1356 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> Just one MC name per line.
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#1359 [19:48] <jman9787> How do i portforward my minecraft server?
#1360 [19:49] <jman9787> Hello?
#1361 [19:50] <jman9787> People?
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#1364 [19:56] <sugoi> jman9787: can you log into your router?
#1365 [19:57] <sugoi> jman9787: also, keep in mind irc style is that people in this channel aren't always monitoring things, sometimes you just have to wait a few minnutes before someone responds
#1366 [19:57] <sugoi> sometimes, it could take an hour :)
#1367 [19:57] <sugoi> or a day..
#1368 [19:57] * sugoi contemplates the spacetime continuum
#1368 [19:59] * Dan starts the complete works of Shakespeare by banging the keyboard
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#1369 [20:03] <Dan> how do you get the server to portfoward though the router
#1370 [20:03] * sugoi gives dan http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/apr/14/shakespeare-theatre
#1370 [20:04] <sugoi> Dan: router's will have a feature to assign ports to an ip in their nat
#1371 [20:04] <Dan> sugoi, one better http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CEcQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fshakespeare.mit.edu%2F&ei=deF8T66JOO7UiAKV2qj5DQ&usg=AFQjCNHUzL1ktXhgt4LG_85iLDQUV72ygA&sig2=JimF1F3AjdRg-BvJOOWO9A
#1372 [20:04] <Dan> dang google urls
#1373 [20:04] <sugoi> so incoming requests on that port are forwarded to the defined ip
#1374 [20:05] <sugoi> Dan: my link was for my anti-shakespear sentiment
#1375 [20:05] <sugoi> having his works for download is hardly what i'm looking for
#1376 [20:07] <Dan> well that was done with a room full of monkeys
#1377 [20:09] <Dan> well the port wasnt able to be forward
#1378 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> Dan: what model of router have you got?
#1379 [20:14] <Dan> DIR-615 for the wi-fi and a comcast business gateway router
#1380 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> ?find dan port forwarding DIR-615
#1381 [20:14] <VoxelHead> dan, http://is.gd/bb2Ev4
#1382 [20:14] <Dan> i already did that
#1383 [20:15] <|Kiichan|> Dan: Goto http://goo.gl/DsVIL and click on your router model, skip the PFConfig Ad, and follow the instructions to set up port forwarding! :D
#1384 [20:15] <|Kiichan|> :P
#1385 [20:16] <Dan> well i got it from the help section but i think its the gateway router firewall that is blocking it and/or just a blocked port on the network and i did forward that port to the wi-fi and from the wi-fi to my computer
#1386 [20:20] <Dan> yea its the gateway
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#1388 [20:21] <langkid1> Hai Dan!
#1389 [20:21] <langkid1> Wazzup
#1390 [20:21] <Dan> ?
#1391 [20:22] <langkid1> Are you Dan from Irondust?
#1392 [20:22] <Dan> no
#1393 [20:22] <langkid1> Impersonator!
#1394 [20:23] <Dan> how when my real name is Daniel and i use Dan on about 5 other IRC netowks
#1395 [20:23] <Dan> networks*
#1396 [20:25] * |Kiichan| calls langkid1 and impersonator of langkid... whoever the original langkid was :P
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#1397 [20:37] <langkid1> danp, there, Dan is the person
#1398 [20:37] <langkid1> <Dan> how when my real name is Daniel and i use Dan on about 5 other IRC netowks
#1399 [20:37] <langkid1> >:|
#1400 [20:37] <langkid1> |Kiichan|, no, each part of my name means something
#1401 [20:37] <langkid1> I no impersonate
#1402 [20:37] <Dan> hate me if you want to, i dont care
#1403 [20:37] <danp> Dan is a common name.
#1404 [20:38] <danp> he's not impersonating anyone
#1405 [20:38] * |Kiichan| hands langkid1 another troll badge
#1405 [20:38] <Dan> well i guess a 256MB and 1.5 GHz can run a mc-classic server http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play/b0c25048766be9c47b720cc890594dfc (not advertising anything)
#1406 [20:39] <Dan> i had to push it to my server since it has a static ip address
#1407 [20:39] <danp> I guess while I'm here though, I can say I'll have some more minecraft capable vpses back in stock soon. :)
#1408 [20:39] <Pepper> langkid1: Just like Zombie_SteveJobs?
#1409 [20:39] <langkid1> o.o
#1410 [20:40] <Pepper> Transparent iPhone and all that? x3
#1411 [20:51] <|Kiichan|> :P
#1412 [20:51] <Dan> its nice and big for my slow a** server
#1413 [20:52] * |Kiichan| dug a hole and destroyed an iron vein :P
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#1414 [20:55] <Dan> ok without mc-classic server load would be .15 .12 08 with mc-classic 0.00, 0.01, 0.05 that is a win right there
#1415 [20:56] * |Kiichan| calls hinkery...
#1415 [20:56] <Dan> im not joking
#1416 [20:56] <|Kiichan|> i know. something is just hinky about it
#1417 [20:56] <Dan> ive been starting at top the entire time you were on and its been faster
#1418 [21:00] <Dan> |Kiichan|, where the spawn is at, is your tower
#1419 [21:00] <|Kiichan|> yeah
#1420 [21:00] <|Kiichan|> near it atleast
#1421 [21:00] <Dan> its on it
#1422 [21:02] <Dan> my top fps has been 290. im loving my server more and more
#1423 [21:05] <DiskDaemon> Why do we need 290fps for Minecraft?
#1424 [21:06] <DiskDaemon> It seems to be somewhat excessive, and wasteful
#1425 [21:06] <Pepper> To say we have 290FPS
#1426 [21:06] <DopeGhoti> Because it is critically important that the world update rate is more than twice as fast as a PC monitor could ever dream of being?
#1427 [21:07] <DopeGhoti> and, of course, I doubt it's the _server_ running at 290FPS.
#1428 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> For what purpose?
#1429 [21:07] <DopeGhoti> epeen?
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#1431 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> .u epeen
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#1433 [21:07] <Dan> well when i look at the ground its 55 but at the sky where |Kiichan| put their tower at its 290
#1434 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> oh right
#1435 [21:08] <pearlodragon> hay does anyone know how to contact a message to mojang
#1436 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> help.mojang.com
#1437 [21:08] <pearlodragon> ok ty
#1438 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> pearlodragon: What does your message relate to?
#1439 [21:08] <DopeGhoti> Dan: yeah, that's got little to nothing to do with the server.
#1440 [21:08] <pearlodragon> because i bought a premium account about 2 months ago played for a long time then it wont log me in and it says im not a premium
#1441 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-i-was-premium-now-i-m-not-
#1442 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> If all else fails, that page has a "click HERE" link so that you can contact them
#1443 [21:09] <pearlodragon> ok
#1444 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> also, if you bought a gife code from anyone other than mojang:
#1445 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> ?? fraud
#1446 [21:11] <VoxelHead> fraud: DO NOT buy Minecraft from any third parties! http://mojang.com/2011/04/26/achtung-uwaga-attention/
#1447 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> er, gift code
#1448 [21:11] <pearlodragon> diskdaemon whats the rest of the link it wont let me copy so i have to type it
#1449 [21:12] <DiskDaemon> Go to help.mojang.com and choose the link called "I was premium, now I'm not!"
#1450 [21:12] <pearlodragon> ok
#1451 [21:15] <Dan> hey what is the link for the admins commands on mc-classic server
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#1453 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> /help ?
#1454 [21:15] <Dan> doesnt work
#1455 [21:16] <langkid1> /help
#1456 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> It should...
#1457 [21:16] <langkid1> make sure you're OP
#1458 [21:16] <langkid1> if in Console just type 'help' or '?'
#1459 [21:16] <Dan> yes i added my name to the admin file
#1460 [21:16] <langkid1> "admin file"?
#1461 [21:17] <langkid1> |8bitben|, halp
#1462 [21:17] <Dan> admins.txt langkid1
#1463 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> Did you restart the server after you edited admins.txt?
#1464 [21:19] <langkid1> ...
#1465 [21:19] <langkid1> Oh classic server!
#1466 [21:19] <langkid1> yeah I'm not familiar with that
#1467 [21:19] <langkid1> I was like "...vanilla doesn't have a admins.txt" until I read up
#1468 [21:20] <langkid1> Where does MC store the image file for letters and stuff in the .JAR?
#1469 [21:21] <Dan> i have it in all in mc-classic
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#1473 [21:31] <|Kiichan|> langkid1: font
#1474 [21:43] <Dan> how can i make a new world on mc-classic on my server
#1475 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Delete level.dat
#1476 [21:44] <Dan> on classic?
#1477 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> There's an equivalent level.dat file on classic that holds the info on the world. I'm not 100% sure what the name is
#1478 [21:46] <Dan> oh i know what it is its server_level.dat
#1479 [21:46] * GreyVulpine nods
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#1481 [21:55] <Dan> humm made an even bigger world
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#1485 [22:10] <Dan> does the grass regenerate or is that a mod?
#1486 [22:24] <lemon-rev> dan grass will only regenerate if you put bone meal on it
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#1489 [23:08] <Dan> how about /fly?
#1490 [23:13] <DiskDaemon> /fly to regenerate tall grass?
#1491 [23:14] <Dan> no the /fly mod for the mc-classic
#1492 [23:15] <DiskDaemon> It requires hacks for that
#1493 [23:17] <Dan> dang
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