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#3 [00:01] <Will_070> Hey Anyone know why after i portfowarded and had server going for a few days get on today and it runs and gets up but stays on polling
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#5 [00:06] <Greg> Hey guys, I play on a 60 slot server, and they drained my lava wall.. Does lava actually effect server performance? or only local? (It wasn't even lagging local, btw)
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#8 [00:07] <Will_070> Hey Anyone know why after i portfowarded and had server going for a few days get on today and it runs and gets up but stays on polling
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#12 [00:11] <sugoi> Will[tab][tab][tab] ...
#13 [00:11] <sugoi> he waited what, 3 minutes?!
#14 [00:11] * sugoi grumbles
#14 [00:15] <sugoi> oh, ok, he actually had repeated the question a few times [good for him, that gets help]
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#21 [00:52] <CyrixLord> Hi apparently while trying to find the minecraft_server.jar file for 1.2.4, 1.2.5 came out :P
#22 [00:53] <CyrixLord> they used to provide the .jar file but now I am unable to find it. do i really need to build it myself from java
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#24 [01:04] <sugoi> CyrixLord: where would you build it from? it's closed source :)
#25 [01:04] <sugoi> CyrixLord: and just fyi, minecraft.net/download will only provide latest
#26 [01:04] <sugoi> if you need an older server, one solution is to use bukkit's craftbukkit
#27 [01:04] <sugoi> though, obviously, those aren't vanilla servers
#28 [01:05] <sugoi> there are a couple options for getting older clients, but i don't know any method for getting older servers
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#31 [01:12] <CyrixLord> I got it all derp. rename file. sigh
#32 [01:12] <CyrixLord> I got it all derp. rename file. sigh
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#39 [02:32] <Maverick> heyyooooo
#40 [02:32] <Maverick> http://sprunge.us/GYUH
#41 [02:32] <Maverick> trying to run minecraft on Arch Linux x86_64 with jre7
#42 [02:33] <Maverick> this exact .jar worked less than an hour ago, i quit minecraft to take a break and when i came back it'd be all "0 controllers found" so i chmod go=u /dev/input/event*
#43 [02:34] <Maverick> but now it just says its found between 6 and 9 controllers and crashes and exits itself just after the mojang screen
#44 [02:34] <Maverick> whuts up with that?
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#48 [02:54] <Calinou> Maverick, huh
#49 [02:54] <Calinou> jre7 should only be used for testing, btw.
#50 [02:54] <Calinou> it's not finshed
#51 [02:54] <Maverick> nigga i've been using jre7 for like 6 months
#52 [02:55] <Maverick> its the official arch linux jre package
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#54 [02:56] <Calinou> ;_;
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#57 [03:32] <Wug> Maverick: watch your words
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#67 [04:40] <Maverick> Wug: why, are they trying to run away?
#68 [04:41] <gPad2002> Lol, you guys were getting people about MCBans?
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#73 [05:02] <Morphix252> Hi All, I have had a message of "Bad Graphic Drivers" and the client fails to respond and crashes. (Using Windows and it was since an update) :) Any ideas? thanks in advance.
#74 [05:02] <rev-lemon> Morphix252 have you played in broswer at all ?
#75 [05:02] <Morphix252> It seems to be an OpenGL problem I think
#76 [05:02] <Morphix252> Nope I didn't realise I could...
#77 [05:03] <rev-lemon> ok
#78 [05:03] <Morphix252> Just trying now.. (JAVA Update too)
#79 [05:03] <rev-lemon> Morphix252 please login to minecraft.net < and click in broswer and see what happens and has the game worked before ?
#80 [05:03] <Morphix252> Yeah it worked no problem
#81 [05:04] <rev-lemon> ok so it works in broswer
#82 [05:04] <rev-lemon> how far are you done with java ?
#83 [05:04] <Morphix252> one sec
#84 [05:05] <Morphix252> Same error
#85 [05:05] <rev-lemon> ok,
#86 [05:05] <rev-lemon> ??> Morphix252 win/dxdiag
#87 [05:05] <VoxelHead> Morphix252: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#88 [05:05] <VoxelHead> Morphix252: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#90 [05:08] <Morphix252> http://pastebin.com/7zQwE5XJ
#91 [05:08] <rev-lemon> ty
#92 [05:10] <rev-lemon> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx < please go here and download one of those and isntall
#93 [05:10] <rev-lemon> install*
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#95 [05:11] <Morphix252> Downloading the package
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#97 [05:11] <rev-lemon> ok
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#99 [05:21] <Deddily> I'm still looking into laptops... Would a Thinkpad w500 with Core Duo P8600 @2.4 GHz and 512MB ATI FireGL V5700 run Minecraft better than a Thinkpad L520 with an Intel Core i5 2.4 GHz and Intel GMA HD graphics? Excuse my ignorance but I'm not up to date with current tech
#100 [05:22] <Deddily> (I am unable to test either before buying)
#101 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> The discrete video chipset would definitely help, but it's not a definitive.
#102 [05:24] <gPad2002> Uh.
#103 [05:24] <gPad2002> I think the answer is yes.
#104 [05:24] <gPad2002> :P
#105 [05:28] <Deddily> Is there much difference between the processors?
#106 [05:28] <rev-lemon> from what exactly ?
#107 [05:29] <Deddily> rev-lemon: I mean the p8600 vs the i5 at the same clock speed?
#108 [05:29] <rev-lemon> Deddily i think you just have to look up reviews and see if you can find a comparason
#109 [05:30] <Deddily> rev-lemon: Well, it's difficult to find a comparison because the W500 is a much older machine than the L520
#110 [05:30] <Deddily> rev-lemon: But to the untrained eye, the specs seem similar apart from the GPU
#111 [05:30] <rev-lemon> well if your looking for cpu speed and whatnot then you just have to find the two chips
#112 [05:31] <rev-lemon> well that makes most of the difference in gameing
#113 [05:32] <Deddily> rev-lemon: My gaming consists only of Minecraft...but I don't know the difference between the ATI FireGL v5700 and the Intel GMA HD
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#115 [05:33] <rev-lemon> then look for those cards and reivews for the speed and all the clocking done by gaming companys and compare the two cards if its possible
#116 [05:34] <rev-lemon> http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-FireGL-V5700.18783.0.html
#117 [05:35] <rev-lemon> http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Graphics-Media-Accelerator-HD.23065.0.html
#118 [05:35] <Deddily> Thank you rev-lemon
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#121 [05:38] <Morphix252> http://pastebin.com/YBPPh2Z5
#122 [05:38] <Deddily> Those links are fantastic, rev-lemon. The numbers don't mean a lot to me but it looks like the ATI is rather a lot better, yes?
#123 [05:39] <Morphix252> :)
#124 [05:39] <pepak9> Hi, could someone help? I want to buy Minecraft PayPal, but when I enter a payment will receive the following message "This payment cannot be completed and your account has not been charged. Please contact your merchant for more information."
#125 [05:39] <rev-lemon> im not even bothering to look
#126 [05:39] <rev-lemon> i just looked and made sure they have some resemblince
#127 [05:40] <Deddily> rev-lemon: OK I understand you must be busy. Well I appreciate the help
#128 [05:40] <rev-lemon> pepak9 can you pay another way i think paypal is rather on the blink some times
#129 [05:40] <rev-lemon> sorry im not really in the mood to look over things, and you can look up what everytrhing means by google
#130 [05:41] <pepak9> i don´t have Credit Card not only paypal account
#131 [05:42] <rev-lemon> pepak9 and you have the right amount with paypal inside it ?
#132 [05:43] <pepak9> on paypal i have 50 euro and minecraft cost 20
#133 [05:43] <rev-lemon> oh,
#134 [05:43] <rev-lemon> dont know if i can help maybe call paypal and find out if its all good to go for minecraft from mojang
#135 [05:44] <Morphix252> Why does Minecraft need the system propeties ?
#136 [05:45] <pepak9> so I try to write a message to mojang
#137 [05:45] <rev-lemon> well i know and belive jeb is on twitter you could try to contact him that way
#138 [05:45] <Morphix252> Thanks for the help before. (I Blue screened)
#139 [05:45] <Morphix252> Thanks for the help before. (I Blue screened)
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#141 [05:46] <rev-lemon> np
#142 [05:46] <auscompgeek> rev-lemon: isn't moll.stam(antiping) in charge of that?
#143 [05:46] <rev-lemon> of what ? payments could be i dont know
#144 [05:47] <pepak9> Well thanks for your help.
#145 [05:47] <auscompgeek> I know that he's in charge of web stuff.
#146 [05:47] <rev-lemon> well maybe talk to him then,
#147 [05:53] <Morphix252> I see no support ticket system whats the best way to report my error ?
#148 [05:53] <Deddily> rev-lemon: 3D mark vantage points: higher numbers are better I assume?
#149 [05:53] <Morphix252> All manner of other games work just fine, I do not really understand why this one won't.
#150 [05:55] <rev-lemon> well better marks for overall performance
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#152 [05:56] <Deddily> rev-lemon: ok, thanks. By that measure, the ATI is like 8 or 9 times better
#153 [05:57] <Maverick> http://sprunge.us/GYUH
#154 [05:57] <Maverick> this exact .jar worked less than an hour ago, i quit minecraft to take a break and when i came back it'd be all "0 controllers found" so i chmod go=u /dev/input/event*
#155 [05:57] <Maverick> nigga i've been using jre7 for like 6 months
#156 [05:57] <Maverick> oops wrong line
#157 [05:57] <Maverick> sorry wug
#158 [05:57] <Maverick> but now it just says its found between 6 and 9 controllers and crashes and exits itself just after the mojang screen
#159 [05:58] <rev-lemon> if your running a mod client i cant help you
#160 [05:59] <Wug> try restarting?
#161 [05:59] <Wug> if its a weird issue with permissions of a device or something that might fix it
#162 [06:01] <Maverick> Wug: i'll try that now
#163 [06:01] <Maverick> thanks
#164 [06:01] <Deddily> Restarting is the answer to every Windows problem
#165 [06:01] <Wug> Deddily: its funny because I bet it will work
#166 [06:01] <Deddily> Wug: Yup
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#168 [06:01] <Wug> the irony was not lost on me
#169 [06:02] <Wug> see also at least its not a mac
#170 [06:02] <Wug> "whup, the software configuration changed itself. I'd better send it to apple for 6 weeks"
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#172 [06:06] <Maverick> Wug: nope, same deal
#173 [06:06] <Wug> Maverick: blugh. what exception are you getting
#174 [06:06] <Maverick> no exception
#175 [06:07] <Wug> then its a mod doing it
#176 [06:07] <Maverick> nope
#177 [06:07] <Maverick> all my mods load fine
#178 [06:07] <Maverick> and like i said
#179 [06:07] <Maverick> the same .jar worked
#180 [06:07] <Maverick> like an hour ago
#181 [06:07] <Maverick> i took a break
#182 [06:07] <Wug> does vanilla work
#183 [06:07] <Maverick> came back
#184 [06:07] <Maverick> wouldn't start
#185 [06:07] <Maverick> no
#186 [06:07] <Wug> what version of java are you using
#187 [06:08] <Wug> I seem to recall that updating it broke minecraft once
#188 [06:08] <Wug> in the same manner you are experiencing
#189 [06:08] <Maverick> 5 [sloth@bitch ~]$ java -version
#190 [06:08] <Maverick> java version "1.7.0_01"
#191 [06:08] <Maverick> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_01-b08)
#192 [06:08] <Maverick> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 21.1-b02, mixed mode)
#193 [06:08] <Wug> you might have to reinstall it, thats how I fixed it
#194 [06:09] <Maverick> rollback or reinstall?
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#196 [06:09] <Wug> reinstall
#197 [06:09] <Wug> like destroy everything
#198 [06:10] <Wug> purge the javas
#199 [06:10] <Wug> leave no shred behind
#200 [06:10] <Maverick> k
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#202 [06:19] <unarti> Im having problem buying the game, it says the system couldn't debout 19.95 EURO from your account, the problem is that I have the money. Is there another method buying the game other than Paypal/Moneybookers?
#203 [06:23] <Maverick> dark magic
#204 [06:26] <Deddily> I've read several people having payment issues recently. I'd say wait a few days and try again
#205 [06:27] <unarti> Its not r ecently
#206 [06:27] <unarti> Its been for monthes
#207 [06:27] <Maverick> Wug: purged java, reinstalled, still broken
#208 [06:27] <Maverick> downgrade from jre7 to jre6?
#209 [06:27] <Wug> you could try it
#210 [06:31] <auscompgeek> I think... I should fire up Wireshark and reverse-engineer the Minecraft protocol.
#211 [06:31] <Wug> auscompgeek: or you could ask me about it
#212 [06:31] <auscompgeek> heh, true.
#213 [06:32] <Wug> some parts of it I do not understand
#214 [06:32] <auscompgeek> it's just that I plan to open a connection to it using PuTTY and sending in-game commands.
#215 [06:32] <Wug> but you could make a fairly competent minecraft packet sniffer out of a modded server
#216 [06:32] <Wug> doing that would be very difficult
#217 [06:33] <auscompgeek> I'm not surprised.
#218 [06:33] <Wug> youd have to send a bunch of nonprintable characters to get yourself logged in
#219 [06:33] <auscompgeek> yikes.
#220 [06:33] <Wug> and youd have to connect to minecraft's auth servers as you were doing it
#221 [06:33] <Wug> and it would have to take less than 6 seconds otherwise your login would time ouyt
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#223 [06:34] <Wug> if you ever went more than 6 seconds without sending a keep alive you would get disconnected
#224 [06:34] <Wug> (keepalive, by the way, is a single null)
#225 [06:34] <Wug> and if you send invalid data at ant time you get disconnected
#226 [06:35] <Wug> you could probably do it with a script but your best bet would be either a specialpurpose program or a plugin
#227 [06:35] <SinZ> Wug: or, go to wiki.vg/Protocol
#228 [06:35] <SinZ> its all documented
#229 [06:35] <Wug> or maybe a wrapper
#230 [06:35] <auscompgeek> yeah, I feel like using a wrapper now :\
#231 [06:35] <auscompgeek> if only my connection wasn't so slow
#232 [06:38] <Deddily> At a choice between prioritising GPU or CPU for Minecraft performance, what would you choose?
#233 [06:40] <Wug> theyre about equally important
#234 [06:40] <Wug> dont overdo either one
#235 [06:41] <auscompgeek> hm. if only I still had that server's Votifier RSA keys.
#236 [06:42] <auscompgeek> I could rack up a whole heap of in-game monies. :p
#237 [06:43] <auscompgeek> oh hang on, I do have the public RSA key somewhere...
#238 [06:43] * auscompgeek performs an evil laugh
#238 [06:53] <Deddily> Wug: Hmm. I'm looking at two machines here - one new and one second hand. The older one has a much beter GPU but the newer one has a CPU that is almost twice as good
#239 [06:55] <Wug> frankenputer
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#241 [07:01] <Deddily> Wug: What do you mean by frankenputer?
#242 [07:02] <Wug> are you familiar with frankenstein, the story of the dude made from the parts of other dudes
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#244 [07:19] <Deddily> Wug: vaguely...
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#246 [07:23] <kevinbladh> Hello
#247 [07:23] <kevinbladh> My friends account got hacked and we tried the "forgot password" but it just comes to a white page saying "error".
#248 [07:24] <Wug> Have him go here: http://is.gd/G3zPKi
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#253 [08:11] <Jordan> Hello
#254 [08:12] <Guest21248> i have a couple questions regarding servers.
#255 [08:12] <NinjaKirby> Reveal them to us, Guest Twenty One Twenty Four Eight
#256 [08:13] <NinjaKirby> Guest Twenty One Thousand Two Hundred And Fourty Eight
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#258 [08:13] <NinjaKirby> Guest Ten Thousand Six Hundred And Twenty Four multiplied by Two
#259 [08:14] <Guest21248> First question: What's a griefier and how do you prevent it?
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#261 [08:15] <NinjaKirby> I guess it's roughly defined as a Player specifically trying to disrupt other people's Gameplay experience, so basically being a nuisance.
#262 [08:15] <Frank> Easy way: ban
#263 [08:15] <NinjaKirby> What he said
#264 [08:15] <Frank> first kick to warn
#265 [08:15] <Frank> then ban
#266 [08:16] * Grim_Reaper loves kicks
#266 [08:16] <Guest21248> Thanks. Now for my second question.
#267 [08:17] * NinjaKirby braces for impact
#267 [08:17] <Guest21248> I need to run the Minecraft.jar thing to "open up" my server to those who want to play with me, right?
#268 [08:18] <NinjaKirby> Indeedy
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#271 [08:18] <Grim_Reaper> Yes Guest21248 thats right.
#272 [08:18] <NinjaKirby> Done the port forwarding and stuff, presumably
#273 [08:18] <Guest21248> Yep.
#274 [08:18] <NinjaKirby> Legendary
#275 [08:18] <Grim_Reaper> It'll generate the server file properties when you run it the first time
#276 [08:19] <Guest21248> I did that. And speaking of that, mind explaining what the files are for? (Sorry, i'm new to this sort of thing.)
#277 [08:21] <Grim_Reaper> Which files exactly?
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#279 [08:21] <Guest21248> the ops and white list and stuff like that.
#280 [08:21] <Grim_Reaper> Ok
#281 [08:22] <Grim_Reaper> The whitelist simply allows you to specify if only certain user accounts are allowed on your server
#282 [08:22] <Grim_Reaper> If their username is not on the whitelist. They cannot connect
#283 [08:22] <Grim_Reaper> The ops list gives the users you specify op privs commands
#284 [08:23] <Guest21248> Meaning like Creative and stuff like that?
#285 [08:23] <Grim_Reaper> Yup
#286 [08:23] <Grim_Reaper> Depending on which server software you're using
#287 [08:24] <Grim_Reaper> You may have more flexibility of exactly WHAT commands users have
#288 [08:24] <Guest21248> how would i set it to creative?
#289 [08:24] <Grim_Reaper> AS in, to stay creative or switch while on survival?
#290 [08:24] <Guest21248> to stay creative.
#291 [08:25] <Grim_Reaper> You can set it in the server properties file
#292 [08:25] <Grim_Reaper> If you wish to switch between survival and creative on the server though
#293 [08:25] <Grim_Reaper> You can /gamemode usernamehere 1/0
#294 [08:25] <Grim_Reaper> 0 being survival and 1 being creative if I recall
#295 [08:26] <Guest21248> I just want it to stay creative, but that's good advice for the future.
#296 [08:26] <Grim_Reaper> [14:25] <+Grim_Reaper> You can set it in the server properties file
#297 [08:27] <Guest21248> What's the command for it?
#298 [08:28] <Grim_Reaper> The command to switch between is /gamemode username 0/1
#299 [08:28] <Grim_Reaper> Or /gamemode 0/1 username
#300 [08:28] <Grim_Reaper> One of those two
#301 [08:29] <Guest21248> Hang on a second. I'll be right back.
#302 [08:29] <Grim_Reaper> Oky dokey
#303 [08:30] <Guest21248> I can't set it. It says "Windows can't open the file" or something like that.
#304 [08:31] <Grim_Reaper> Right click on the server properties file
#305 [08:31] <Grim_Reaper> Click open with.
#306 [08:31] <Grim_Reaper> Select choose a program from the list
#307 [08:31] <Grim_Reaper> And choose notepad
#308 [08:31] <Guest21248> Ok.
#309 [08:32] <Guest21248> It worked!
#310 [08:32] <Grim_Reaper> ^^
#311 [08:33] <Guest21248> Woah, alot of stuff here. Uh..found it! Now just setting in to creative and...
#312 [08:34] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#313 [08:34] <Grim_Reaper> Save it
#314 [08:34] <Grim_Reaper> And start the server
#315 [08:35] <Guest21248> Here we go!
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#318 [08:38] <Guest21248> This is weird. I did all the steps and it says it refused to connect.
#319 [08:38] <Grim_Reaper> Try connecting to 127.0.0.1
#320 [08:38] <Grim_Reaper> if the server is hosted on the same pc that is
#321 [08:38] <Grim_Reaper> Or localhost
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#323 [08:40] <Guest21248> Is..this my server? or something else?
#324 [08:41] <Grim_Reaper> If your server is hosted on the same pc as your minecraft game
#325 [08:41] <Grim_Reaper> Then try connecting to localhost
#326 [08:41] <Guest21248> that's the IP? localhost?
#327 [08:42] <Grim_Reaper> 127.0.0.1 and localhost are the same
#328 [08:42] <Grim_Reaper> So yes
#329 [08:42] <Guest21248> I did that. So now what?
#330 [08:43] <Grim_Reaper> Try connecting o.o
#331 [08:44] <Guest21248> It worked. Now what?
#332 [08:44] <Grim_Reaper> Umm. Now you have your server to connect to
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#334 [08:44] <Guest21248> That's my server?! Awosome!
#335 [08:44] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#336 [08:45] <NinjaKirby> dafuq XD
#337 [08:45] <Guest21248> But it's survival...wait...i think i put some code wrong. I'll be right back.
#338 [08:45] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#339 [08:46] <Grim_Reaper> Dont forget to restart the server when you've changed the server property settings
#340 [08:46] <gPad2002> Anyone want to play a board game with me? :P
#341 [08:46] <gPad2002> http://www.boardgame-online.com/g/game.php?g=LNd&k=wXm
#342 [08:46] * Grim_Reaper checks it out
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#343 [08:47] <Eddie015> hy there :)
#344 [08:47] <Grim_Reaper> Hi
#345 [08:47] <Eddie015> i have a new minecraft problem :D
#346 [08:47] <Eddie015> since 1.2.5
#347 [08:48] <Guest21248> continue....
#348 [08:48] <Grim_Reaper> What would your problem be
#349 [08:48] <Eddie015> Fatal Error occured (2) ./.minecraft/bin/version
#350 [08:48] <Guest21248> I know that error!
#351 [08:49] <Eddie015> :
#352 [08:49] <Eddie015> .D
#353 [08:49] <Eddie015> tell me xD
#354 [08:50] <Guest21248> Ok. First, try forcing an update.
#355 [08:50] <Eddie015> do
#356 [08:50] <Eddie015> and
#357 [08:50] <Eddie015> error
#358 [08:51] <Guest21248> Ok. Hang on sec and let me check something.
#359 [08:51] <Eddie015> ty
#360 [08:51] <Eddie015> When i start it without updating, it works.
#361 [08:52] <Guest21248> So you're saying it won't work when you try to update it, correct?
#362 [08:52] <Eddie015> Yes
#363 [08:53] <Guest21248> Listen closely. Go to your Java control panel.
#364 [08:53] <Eddie015> Done
#365 [08:54] <Guest21248> go to "General" and hit the button that says "settings" for temporary internet files.
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#367 [08:54] <Eddie015> Delete ?
#368 [08:55] <Guest21248> Yeah. But don't worry, it won't ruin your saves or stuff like that.
#369 [08:55] <Eddie015> play only online
#370 [08:56] <Guest21248> What do you mean?
#371 [08:56] <Eddie015> same Error.
#372 [08:56] <Guest21248> Are you sure you deleted the files via the control panel?
#373 [08:57] <Eddie015> I do
#374 [08:58] <Eddie015> Generel - Temporary Internet Data - Settings - Delete Data - OK
#375 [08:58] <Guest21248> Wow. this one of weirdest cases of an error i had. At this point, the only i can tell you is delete the temporary internet files (again) and delete minecraft. Then reinstall it.
#376 [08:59] <Eddie015> Second pls.
#377 [08:59] <Guest21248> What does that mean?
#378 [09:00] <Eddie015> wait pls :) i do it.
#379 [09:00] <Guest21248> Ok.
#380 [09:01] <Eddie015> i know the error
#381 [09:01] <Guest21248> What is it?
#382 [09:01] <Eddie015> i start the game over a other exe, cauze the Pc Named with "Eva!" and it give an extra file to open minecraft when your computernamed with an !, and i think, i have the old version not the 1.2.5 from this launcher
#383 [09:02] <Guest21248> Now THAT make sense!
#384 [09:02] <Eddie015> :D
#385 [09:02] <Eddie015> you have a new version link from this launcher ?
#386 [09:03] <Guest21248> yeah, hang on.
#387 [09:03] <Eddie015> thanks buddy :>
#388 [09:04] <Guest21248> Ok, the news or the actual minecraft software itself?
#389 [09:05] <Guest21248> See ya.
#390 [09:08] <Eddie015> öhm..
#391 [09:08] <Eddie015> i dont know what u mean :o
#392 [09:11] <Eddie015> guest 2124 ?
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#399 [10:12] <mibbit> my minecraft is broken how do I fix
#400 [10:25] <Grim_Reaper> You can start by telling us what exactly is wrong :3
#401 [10:25] <mibbit> Grim_Reaper: \fod
#402 [10:25] <Calinou> what Grim_Reaper said :)
#403 [10:25] <mibbit> :|
#404 [10:25] <Calinou> huh?
#405 [10:26] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#406 [10:26] * mibbit goes to google
#406 [10:26] <Grim_Reaper> ..
#407 [10:26] <mibbit> ಠ_ಠ
#408 [10:26] <mibbit> this is the second time ive done this in 3 days
#409 [10:26] <mibbit> REMEMBER THE RULE
#410 [10:26] <mibbit> >*.rit.edu
#411 [10:26] <Grim_Reaper> So wait.. You came here asking for help o_O But now you're going to google o_O?
#412 [10:26] <mibbit> >its probably wug
#413 [10:27] <mibbit> wug unless proven innocent
#414 [10:27] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#415 [10:28] <mibbit> on my laptop and desktop \fod autoreplaces with ಠ_ಠ
#416 [10:28] <mibbit> I'm using a library computer
#417 [10:28] <Grim_Reaper> Ok
#418 [10:28] <mibbit> NOW REMEMBER THE WUG RULE
#419 [10:29] <Boreeas> mibbit: Now stop trying to kick us
#420 [10:29] <Boreeas> s/kick/kid/
#421 [10:29] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#422 [10:29] <Boreeas> trick even
#423 [10:29] <Boreeas> ಠ_ಠ
#424 [10:29] <Grim_Reaper> Boreeas is having a bad autocorrect day by the looks of it ;;
#425 [10:29] <mibbit> ;+ wugrule If the hostname matches *.rit.edu, automatically assume it's Wug unless proven otherwise beyond any reasonable doubt.
#426 [10:30] <Grim_Reaper> p-p
#427 [10:30] <mibbit> ;kick Boreeas I'm trying not to kick you but it isnt working
#428 [10:30] * WugBot kicked Boreeas from #minecrafthelp (Reason: oreeas :I'm trying not to kick you but it isnt working)
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#430 [10:30] <mibbit> :>
#431 [10:30] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm this is quite odd
#432 [10:30] <Boreeas> ;kick mibbit ಠ_ಠ
#433 [10:30] * WugBot kicked mibbit from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ibbit :ಠ_ಠ)
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#435 [10:30] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh I see
#436 [10:30] <mibbit> :~
#437 [10:30] <Grim_Reaper> Wug y so hide
#438 [10:31] <mibbit> because its fun
#439 [10:31] <Boreeas> He's testing us!
#440 [10:31] <mibbit> you should try it sometime
#441 [10:31] <mibbit> I sometimes get ahold of really obscure hostnames and visit
#442 [10:31] <mibbit> like that one time I came in from a .ca address
#443 [10:31] <Grim_Reaper> I see
#444 [10:31] <Grim_Reaper> So to put it simple.. you like trolling ;;
#445 [10:32] <mibbit> exactly
#446 [10:32] <mibbit> its wonderful fun
#447 [10:32] <Grim_Reaper> I'll agree on the trolling bit.
#448 [10:32] <Grim_Reaper> As long as nobody gets hurt :3
#449 [10:32] <mibbit> I usually set noop before I visit so chanserv doesnt opme
#450 [10:32] <Grim_Reaper> I see that
#451 [10:32] <mibbit> I always unset it because otherwise I forget
#452 [10:33] <mibbit> I can then login and use my bot and stuff but not get opped
#453 [10:33] <mibbit> it freaks people out :>
#454 [10:33] <Grim_Reaper> Inb4 #mc gets destroyed
#455 [10:33] <mibbit> I went there first
#456 [10:33] <mibbit> I'm not sure anyone noticed
#457 [10:33] <Grim_Reaper> I saw you speak. But didn't check the hostname nor know it was you
#458 [10:34] <mibbit> ololololo
#459 [10:34] <mibbit> dont give me away
#460 [10:34] <Grim_Reaper> Lol at @#mc
#461 [10:34] <Grim_Reaper> I wont p-p
#462 [10:34] <Grim_Reaper> Im going to see just how this turns out
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#464 [10:34] <mibbit> I bet ill get akilled
#465 [10:34] <mibbit> that would be funny
#466 [10:35] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#467 [10:35] <xales> Hi Wug.
#468 [10:35] <xales> That word pings me. >.<
#469 [10:35] * Grim_Reaper hugs xales
#469 [10:35] * xales hugs Grim_Reaper
#469 [10:36] <mibbit> xales: lol
#470 [10:36] <mibbit> are you the designated wug watchdog
#471 [10:38] <mibbit> oh, nvm I get it
#472 [10:38] * xales pokes Kealper
#472 [10:38] <xales> mibbit: Yes
#473 [10:42] * mibbit also pokes Kealper
#473 [10:44] <mibbit> huh, I have failed login attempts
#474 [10:44] <mibbit> by someone whos nick was not grouped to mine
#475 [10:44] <mibbit> implying they tried to explicitly /ns identify wug <password>
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#480 [11:30] <TOM4> Hello
#481 [11:30] <TOM4> I have a couple questions regarding servers.
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#485 [11:40] <Loligs> I have question....when i was playing minecraft after 1 or 2 hours i have a blackscreen!! so i have to restart my computer!!! whats the problem????? help pls!?
#486 [11:42] <Wug> sounds like one of 3 things
#487 [11:42] <Wug> first, it could be an overheating issue
#488 [11:42] <Wug> it usually wont take that long but I wont rule it out
#489 [11:43] <Wug> second, it could be a video driver issue
#490 [11:43] <Wug> that one is probably the most likely
#491 [11:43] <fault> ;ping
#492 [11:43] <WugBot> fault: ping
#493 [11:43] <Wug> thirdly it could be the result of using 32 bit java
#494 [11:43] <Wug> which tends to cause crashes. again, usually only after 10-15 minutes
#495 [11:43] <Wug> and it shouldnt crash the whole computer
#496 [11:43] <Wug> but it has been known to
#497 [11:44] <Loligs> ok thx
#498 [11:44] <Loligs> ok thx
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#510 [13:03] <NinjaKirby> My mind is broken, I'm trying to implement an ABBA switch on two pistons, but no matter what organisation I implement the Repeaters, it just seems to do the same thing. Perhaps it's supposed to, I can't get my head round it
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#516 [13:15] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: can you take a screen shot?
#517 [13:16] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: i'd be happy to help
#518 [13:16] <Morrolan> What on earth is an ABBA switch? oO
#519 [13:16] * Morrolan googles
#519 [13:16] <sugoi> Morrolan: it opens in reverse order than it closes
#520 [13:16] <NinjaKirby> I'm running server, so if you want hands on I can let you on
#521 [13:16] <Morrolan> sugoi - Oh, I see.
#522 [13:16] <sugoi> the "AB" refers to the A signal THEN B, and on close, B then A
#523 [13:17] <Morrolan> Yep, I understand the idea behind its name now. :)
#524 [13:17] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: sadly, i'm at work, else that'd be really fun :)
#525 [13:17] <NinjaKirby> Okie ^^;; I'll take a couple of screenies and ImageShack them
#526 [13:17] <sugoi> woot! :)
#527 [13:20] <NinjaKirby> Thanks btw :) Much appreciated your assistance
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#531 [13:23] <pikayellow> I have a problem with minecraft,the game crash when it save chunks,what should i do?
#532 [13:24] <sugoi> pikayellow: this has been happening to you since the update to 1.2.4?
#533 [13:25] <pikayellow> yes
#534 [13:25] <pikayellow> do you know why?
#535 [13:25] <sugoi> i know it happens to people, to be honest i haven't been helping in here as much as i used to since 1.2.4 came out (just been busy)
#536 [13:26] <sugoi> Wug: what's the fix for 1.2.4 chunk-save->close issue?
#537 [13:26] <hooLy> Im lf for a help with buying minecraft , i wanna buy it through paypal (im from poland) , i have enough money on paypal account . Error - " Currently you are not able to pay with PayPal. Unfortunately we can not perform your payment. Please go back to main page and select an other payment method. what i should do ? i dont want use other payment method
#538 [13:26] <Wug> sugoi: update to 1.2.5?
#539 [13:26] <sugoi> pikayellow: i think it helps to upgrade to 64bit java (if you have a 64bit OS of course)
#540 [13:26] <sugoi> Wug: haha, really?
#541 [13:26] <Wug> hooLy: minecraft does not accept paypal currently, you will need to find an alternate means of payment
#542 [13:26] <Calinou> hooLy, does your bank allow the use of paypal?
#543 [13:27] <Calinou> Wug, it doesn't anymore?
#544 [13:27] <Calinou> derp then. :/
#545 [13:27] <pikayellow> I don't have os 64 bit
#546 [13:27] <Wug> Calinou: it does not
#547 [13:27] <hooLy> so why on minecraft.net its possible to use paypal for my country ?
#548 [13:27] <Wug> sugoi: pretty much the pirmary reason 1.2.5 was released was fixing level conversion and generation bugs
#549 [13:27] <Wug> pri*
#550 [13:27] <Morrolan> PayPal is still awol? Argh.
#551 [13:27] <Morrolan> Still no statement from any of Mojang's employees about it?
#552 [13:28] <sugoi> pikayellow: did you read what Wug wrote?
#553 [13:29] <NinjaKirby> http://yfrog.com/eumcabba01j and http://yfrog.com/ncmcabba02j, Sugoi :) When you get a free moment, anyway
#554 [13:29] <hooLy> so... thats no other way to use paypal and i just wasted my money for exchange it for euro ?
#555 [13:31] <Morrolan> Sounds about right.
#556 [13:31] <NinjaKirby> PayPal isn't written off, so give it some time and you can presumably use that money still
#557 [13:31] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: ok, 1. i assume the piston side is the output, 2. set repeaters to max (4) to have more to time to see the correct function, 3. your input line should be on the closer side, away from the output side
#558 [13:32] <NinjaKirby> I'd assume it isn't written off anyway
#559 [13:32] <sugoi> point #3 i think is the bug btw
#560 [13:32] <pikayellow> Scuse i didn't see that,yes it's update 1.2.5
#561 [13:32] <NinjaKirby> I have applied maximum time delay, I'll try moving the cable over
#562 [13:33] <hooLy> ok ,thx for help guys
#563 [13:33] <sugoi> also, i can't see the repeaters well, but, the ones going away from the wall with the input line should be both facing away from it
#564 [13:33] <sugoi> also, i can't see the repeaters well, but, the ones going away from the wall with the input line should be both facing away from it
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#566 [13:34] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: and the repeaters parallel to that wall should not be the same, the input block one should take it away, and the other side bringing it back
#567 [13:35] <NinjaKirby> My brain exploded
#568 [13:35] <sugoi> pikayellow: you're on 1.2.5 and having that issue?
#569 [13:35] <pikayellow> yes
#570 [13:35] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: just move the input, see if it's fixed
#571 [13:36] <pikayellow> i tried to reinstall minecraft but it still don't work
#572 [13:36] <pikayellow> it leave me a hs-err-pid.log on the desk
#573 [13:37] <sugoi> pikayellow: uuu goody
#574 [13:37] <sugoi> let us have preciousssss
#575 [13:39] <NinjaKirby> Sugoi: Ah! Okay, I kinda get the 4xRepeater directions, and moved the input cable. It's actually working, although I'm having to add delaying repeaters on both outputs to get a suitable action
#576 [13:40] <NinjaKirby> Which isn't a problem, just interesting they're required
#577 [13:40] <pikayellow> here is the problematic frame C [vticd.dll+0x144ecd]
#578 [13:41] <NinjaKirby> Ah okay, the 4xrepeaters in the switch itself are just modified, lovely, although getting a balanced action both ways is tricky.
#579 [13:41] <sugoi> pikayellow: do you know how to use pastebin?
#580 [13:42] <NinjaKirby> Oh yeah! We got it! Thanks much Sugoi :D
#581 [13:42] <pikayellow> no,I just heard about
#582 [13:42] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: that's too bad you need repeaters to clean up the output like that
#583 [13:42] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: :)
#584 [13:43] <NinjaKirby> For clarity, I didn't need them :P Just messed with the ones in the Switch itself
#585 [13:43] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: if your output timing is too close, i'd add repeaters ... how to explain
#586 [13:43] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: ok
#587 [13:43] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: if you do, let me know
#588 [13:43] <NinjaKirby> It's perfect action on them, even with the invertor inline on one outlet
#589 [13:44] <sugoi> pikayellow: goto pastebin.com, copy and paste the contents of your error file in the 'new paste' box, then click submit
#590 [13:44] <sugoi> give us the url of the page following that
#591 [13:45] <pikayellow> ok
#592 [13:47] <pikayellow> http://pastebin.com/LF54sgGU here it is
#593 [13:48] <sugoi> when did this start happening?
#594 [13:49] * langkid1 bounces
#594 [13:50] <pikayellow> when I bought the game wednesday
#595 [13:52] <sugoi> pikayellow: when during gameplay does this happen?
#596 [13:54] <pikayellow> when i choose the world,the game builds the terrain,saves the chunks and it crash
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#598 [13:56] <M1n3cr4ftr> I just got a new router and port forwarding isnt working :/ idk how to get my server up
#599 [13:57] <M1n3cr4ftr> !check M1n3cr4ftr
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#601 [13:59] <NinjaKirby> Wow, the Button to activate the process doesn't produce a long enough Signal output, I need to elongate it
#602 [13:59] <Morrolan> Use either "!check" which will use your IP, or specify the actual IP, M1n3cr4ftr.
#603 [14:00] <Morrolan> Alternatively you could use WugBot's command which does what you wanted to do I think.
#604 [14:00] <Morrolan> ;check M1n3cr4ftr
#605 [14:00] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: S01060014d1bc0c8d.vf.shawcable.net:25565 (Timed out)
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#607 [14:01] <Morrolan> M1n3cr4ftr - Regarding port-forwarding not working, make sure that you're using the correct internal IP of your computer, it might have changed.
#608 [14:03] <NinjaKirby> Hey Sugoi, sorry man, you still about? XD
#609 [14:03] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: i'm here
#610 [14:04] <sugoi> just had a guy working with my code at my desk for a sec
#611 [14:04] <NinjaKirby> Okay, I spoke to soon, ignore me XD I found a circuit, "Pulse sustainer", exactly what I need
#612 [14:04] <sugoi> sup?
#613 [14:04] <sugoi> coo :)
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#619 [14:19] <sugoi> pikayellow: hi again
#620 [14:19] <sugoi> pikayellow: sorry - just a touch busy at work - weird, i know
#621 [14:19] <sugoi> pikayellow: do you even get into the game?
#622 [14:20] <pikayellow> no
#623 [14:20] <sugoi> have you ever seen in-game graphics?
#624 [14:20] <sugoi> on your pc
#625 [14:20] <pikayellow> no
#626 [14:21] <sugoi> it appears your gpu doesn't have full opengl support
#627 [14:21] <sugoi> ?? win/dxdiag
#628 [14:21] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#629 [14:21] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#630 [14:21] <sugoi> pikayellow: can you follow those instructions from VoxelHead?
#631 [14:21] <pikayellow> okay
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#634 [14:23] <DSdavidDS> How do I move my nether and end file form a singleplayer world map?
#635 [14:24] <DSdavidDS> I know it has sometihng to do with DIM-1 and DIM1
#636 [14:24] <DSdavidDS> but i don't know what
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#639 [14:25] <pikayellow> http://pastebin.com/ZufHxt0R
#640 [14:26] <Morrolan> Savegame/region is the normal world, Savegame/DIM-1 is the nether, Savegame/DIM1 is the End, DSdavidDS.
#641 [14:26] <DSdavidDS> okay thank you!
#642 [14:27] <Morrolan> I assume you know where to find the singleplayer savegames? :)
#643 [14:27] <sugoi> pikayellow: AND bsuy again, sorry
#644 [14:30] <pikayellow> It's been 2 day I search a fix,i can wait more:)
#645 [14:30] <pikayellow> It's been 2 day I search a fix,i can wait more:)
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#648 [14:33] <NinjaKirby> Does Minecraft allow two instances to be run from the same PC to the same server? Or is there IP issues?
#649 [14:34] <NinjaKirby> Obviously deactivating Player checks in the server.properties, since I don't own two accounts
#650 [14:35] <Morrolan> Two connections from the same IP are no problem at all.
#651 [14:36] <Morrolan> However, each connection has to have a unique name.
#652 [14:36] <NinjaKirby> Oh wow yeah, "You logged in from another location", lawdie
#653 [14:41] <NinjaKirby> Okay, maybe not, because the game forces you to login? O_o
#654 [14:41] <NinjaKirby> Ah, the button switches to override, can't read due to the BG texture -_-
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#659 [14:48] <NinjaKirby> lol, incredible, two clients and a server on the same machine, it performs majestically
#660 [14:49] <NinjaKirby> Strange as well, my main client has the Daylight-Inside glitch, and the second client doesn't.
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#663 [15:04] <NinjaKirby> lol, wtf, the daylight is spreading, my concealed ravine now has a Sun inside it apparently
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#667 [15:21] <pikayellow> re
#668 [15:21] <pikayellow> re
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#673 [15:50] <Kaizokuj> hey, I'm havign a problem with people connecting now.
#674 [15:51] <Kaizokuj> I was having some issues yesterday which came down to a simple typo, but today noone but me can seem to connect.
#675 [15:52] <Kaizokuj> Sometimes they connect and stick for like a minute but then they get disconnected, they cant see what I type and I am on the server via the same IP and dont have the problem
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#677 [15:53] <hoobahubba> yo, what zip file opener do you recomend?
#678 [15:53] <Kaizokuj> but 2 people who have tried get different problems with it
#679 [15:54] <hoobahubba> 7zip or winrar
#680 [15:54] <Kaizokuj> I'm not part of the support guys but I prefer winrar myself.
#681 [15:55] <hoobahubba> i just hate how it keeps telling me to buy when i open stuff
#682 [15:55] <xales> 7zip
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#684 [15:57] <Kaizokuj> true, that can get annoying if you cant just tune it out.
#685 [15:57] <Kaizokuj> I've been using winrar for so long I dont even notice anymore
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#687 [16:05] <Kaizokuj> [SEVERE] java.net.SocketException: Socket closed
#688 [16:05] <Kaizokuj> This is the error I'm getting
#689 [16:05] <Kaizokuj> Right now atleast
#690 [16:06] <Kaizokuj> Downgrading the bukkit version atleast allowed him to see what I wrote.
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#693 [16:23] <Kaizokuj> Anyone even here that's at the keyboard :p
#694 [16:24] <Omega_Guardian> yep.
#695 [16:24] <Kaizokuj> Oh hi :p
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#697 [16:25] <Kaizokuj> Any idea on what might be wrong in my case ?
#698 [16:25] <heroleftbehind> Hi. I'm getting an error everytime I try to purchase minecraft
#699 [16:25] <rev-lemon> Kaizokuj which java have you installed
#700 [16:25] <oldtopman> heroleftbehind: Are you using a gift card?
#701 [16:26] <Kaizokuj> On the server box ?
#702 [16:26] <heroleftbehind> No, I am using debit.
#703 [16:27] <Kaizokuj> should be java5, it's running on a ubuntu linux box
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#705 [16:27] <Kaizokuj> It was perfectly reachable about an hour or 2 ago tho
#706 [16:28] <oldtopman> heroleftbehind: How are you paying?
#707 [16:28] <oldtopman> Kaizokuj: You're running a bukkit server?
#708 [16:29] <heroleftbehind> with visa. I have more than enough money and a minecraft account. It hasn't let me purchase the game though and I have been trying since yesterday
#709 [16:29] <Kaizokuj> yeah i am
#710 [16:29] <Kaizokuj> 1.2.5 normally but since it was giving me grief I tried to run 1.2.4
#711 [16:29] <oldtopman> ??> Kaizokuj bukkit
#712 [16:29] <oldtopman> . . .
#713 [16:30] <oldtopman> ??< index
#714 [16:30] <Kaizokuj> I've also tried to run it without and the problem persists
#715 [16:30] <oldtopman> Kaizokuj: We don't support mods or bukkit. Try #bukkit for that.
#716 [16:30] <oldtopman> ??< mods
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#718 [16:31] <Kaizokuj> it's not bukkit related tho.
#719 [16:31] <oldtopman> Wait, no mods client cannot connect to no mods server?
#720 [16:32] <Kaizokuj> yup taht's the problem
#721 [16:32] <heroleftbehind> Why can't I buy minecraft?
#722 [16:32] <Kaizokuj> They can on occasion connect, they are there for about 1 minute.
#723 [16:32] <Kaizokuj> cant see what people type then I get an array of errors the latest of them being
#724 [16:32] <oldtopman> Kaizokuj: Try running the vanilla server in a new folder entirely. And make sure you don't have any firewall software on.
#725 [16:33] <Kaizokuj> [SEVERE] java.net.SocketException: Socket closed
#726 [16:33] <Kaizokuj> Will do.
#727 [16:33] <oldtopman> heroleftbehind: Your bank might not allow international purchases, I'm not certain; Paypal should work though.
#728 [16:33] <heroleftbehind> Thank you
#729 [16:33] <oldtopman> Kaizokuj: Also, paste the whole error >.> That's like telling me that your computer shut down after a BSOD.
#730 [16:34] <Kaizokuj> Sure, all you needed to do was ask :) did not want to clutter up the chat with the entire message
#731 [16:34] <oldtopman> WAITNO
#732 [16:34] <Aikar> http://aikar.co/db/mc/lag.png < optifine causes this, total lagout unless I resize window (which getting mouse back during this is so slow), any suggestions?
#733 [16:34] <oldtopman> ??> Kaizokuj pastebin
#734 [16:35] <VoxelHead> Kaizokuj: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#735 [16:35] <Kaizokuj> yeah I was gonna use pastenin ^
#736 [16:35] <Kaizokuj> bin*
#737 [16:37] <Kaizokuj> http://pastebin.com/st82LpHs
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#743 [16:49] <Othinolis> I can't uninstall Java, I can't reach the login servers of Minecraft, and I've been working on fixing it for hours. I tried upgrading to Java 7, later found Minecraft wouldn't run on it, and tried to uninstall it. Got a very weird error.
#744 [16:51] <Othinolis> Heres the error: "Error opening Instalation Log File. Verify that the specified log file exists and is writable."
#745 [16:52] <Othinolis> When I try to start Minecraft, I get an error about the registry, which I've cleared of everything and anything Java to no avail.
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#747 [16:55] <Xajin> I am attemtping to import a world, where do I define or import worlds in bPermissions
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#749 [16:57] <Morrolan> Xajin - Err, ask #bananacode
#750 [16:57] <Morrolan> Or check its documentation. :)
#751 [16:58] <Othinolis> Any help for me? :(
#752 [16:58] <Morrolan> Err, Java refusing to get uninstalled? Not sure. THere used to be a tool, "JavaRa", which removed broken Java installations. Not sure whether it's updated.
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#754 [16:59] <Othinolis> I tried JavaRa. Didn't work.
#755 [16:59] <Morrolan> Then you'll have to wait a while until someone who has got a clue sees your issue. :)
#756 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Try
#757 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> ;search 1723
#758 [17:00] <WugBot> Matches for "1723": error/1723
#759 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> :error/1723
#760 [17:00] <WugBot> error/1723: If you have made changes to your registry, you may experience issues installing or uninstalling java.
#761 [17:00] <WugBot> error/1723: You may be able to repair these issues automatically with this tool: http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall
#762 [17:00] <okado> hello i just downloaded 1.2.5 update and now when i log in it crashes and tried website login to still no use
#763 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> okado - Do you get an error log?
#764 [17:01] <okado> no
#765 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> How exactly does minecraft crash?
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#767 [17:01] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine - Heh, and why is that factoid saved as error/1723? Might help me in recalling it. ^^
#768 [17:01] <okado> just closes out on dl version website black screen
#769 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - There's an error 1723 that windows pops up when trying to install java.
#770 [17:02] <Morrolan> Ah, I see.
#771 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Unrelated to this issue, but yeah. Windows provides a utility that fixes the registry stuff
#772 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> okado - What operating system?
#773 [17:03] <okado> w-7 home premium sv1
#774 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried:
#775 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> ??> okado win/reinst
#776 [17:03] <VoxelHead> okado: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#777 [17:03] <VoxelHead> okado: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#778 [17:04] <okado> kk will try
#779 [17:05] <okado> still same problem
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#781 [17:07] <okado> i have deleted .minecraft reinstall and force updated
#782 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Still blackscreen after it updates?
#783 [17:08] <okado> on website yes
#784 [17:08] <Othinolis> WugBot it worked!! Thank you so much!!
#785 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> And on downloaded version?
#786 [17:09] <Morrolan> Heh, WugBot gets all the gratitude nowadays. ^^
#787 [17:09] * GreyVulpine snrks
#787 [17:09] <okado> still close out after log on or ofline
#788 [17:09] <Morrolan> You did a great job, GreyVulpine!
#789 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Also the factoid is called that, because we get this quite a lot: http://attachments.techguy.org/attachments/160112d1259046322/error1723.jpg
#790 [17:10] <Morrolan> I see.
#791 [17:11] <okado> i didnt get a erorr code
#792 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> okado - offline? Did you delete all the files in .minecraft except for 'saves'?
#793 [17:11] <okado> yes
#794 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> If you did that, when you run minecraft, the 'play offline' button should be greyed out. You shouldn't be able to press it
#795 [17:12] <okado> no i reinstalled after
#796 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> reinstalled how?
#797 [17:13] <okado> logged in and it re dled files and once done closed it self out
#798 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> You closed it, or the program closed itself?
#799 [17:13] <okado> it self closed
#800 [17:14] <okado> after load bar is done
#801 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Ah. Look at where you have the launcher. Do you see any files labeled hs_err_pid?
#802 [17:15] <okado> yeah
#803 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Great. Those are error reports. Please open them up, copy the contents of it to www.pastebin.com and submit it. Then give us the URL to the page
#804 [17:18] <okado> http://pastebin.com/WUsTe0pS
#805 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Looks like your ATI video drivers are out of date. Do you know how to update them?
#806 [17:20] <okado> i just updated like a week ago lol ill check
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#808 [17:22] <JakeGriffin> Hello?
#809 [17:23] <Morrolan> 'lo
#810 [17:25] <JakeGriffin> I don't know if this is the correct place to come, I was directed here from a Minecraft forums thread. But anyway, I need to know if it is possible to get my premium status moved from one Minecraft account to another without needing to purchase another account?
#811 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> It is not possible, unfortunately
#812 [17:26] <NinjaKirby> Wow, there is actually a +Y/-Y Redstone Quirk
#813 [17:27] <JakeGriffin> Ah, that's unfortunate. As much as I'd like to give Mojang more money, I simply can't at the minute!
#814 [17:28] <okado> yeah they got a new update now since i did im dl it now
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#816 [17:34] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: will this support opengl? (methinks not, via chipset?!) http://pastebin.com/ZufHxt0R
#817 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> I have not seen a single VIA/S3 chipset that's able to play minecraft
#818 [17:35] <sugoi> pikayellow: ping
#819 [17:35] <pikayellow> yes?
#820 [17:35] <sugoi> pikayellow: sorry i've been so busy at work
#821 [17:35] <sugoi> the good news, i have looked at your dxdiag
#822 [17:35] <sugoi> the bad news, your graphics support is rather outdated
#823 [17:36] <pikayellow> i just have to download some graphics support?
#824 [17:36] <sugoi> grey says he's never seen minecraft work with your graphics card
#825 [17:36] <sugoi> pikayellow: sorry, i meant to say your card is outdated
#826 [17:37] <sugoi> pikayellow: you could look for a least driver on your card (chipset, really)
#827 [17:37] <sugoi> but i don't think it'll work
#828 [17:37] <sugoi> you'll need a newer computer to run the game
#829 [17:38] <pikayellow> ok,thanks i'll try to download a driver
#830 [17:39] <sugoi> pikayellow: this appears to be for your machine
#831 [17:39] <sugoi> http://support.acer.com/product/default.aspx?modelId=382
#832 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> It is very unlikely that the VIA chipset will be able to run minecraft. The card itself simply is too old to supprt the version of OpenGL minecraft needs. You can try updating the drivers, but I wouldn't hold out hope. We've tried that for countless individuals that have the same card with no success.
#833 [17:39] <sugoi> you can try the "VGA Driver"
#834 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> That specific chipset only has OpenGL 1.2 : http://feedback.wildfiregames.com/report/opengl/device/VIA/S3G%20UniChrome%20Pro%20IGP
#835 [17:41] <sugoi> :(
#836 [17:41] <sugoi> pikayellow: no dice
#837 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Last I heard, Minecraft needs at least 1.4 or so.
#838 [17:42] <pikayellow> ok,I will give it a try
#839 [17:46] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: minecraft wiki says 1.2, then says 2.0 is better - but i doubt it is accurate
#840 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> Before Beta 1.8.1, minecraft needed at least OpenGL 1.2 (remember that not all cards that say they are OpenGL 1.2 compliant, are). When 1.8.1 came out, OpenGL 1.3 calls are introduced. Unfortunately, this made it so some older mac users couldn't run minecraft. Was bumped down to 1.2 for a little while.
#841 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> When Final rolled around, sometime after, probably around the new lighting/shader engine, 1.4 calls were used.
#842 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure about it
#843 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Best people to ask are probably the #mcp people
#844 [17:50] <sugoi> ok, well noted
#845 [17:50] <sugoi> thanks
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#847 [17:50] * sugoi waits for it...
#847 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> Throughout alpha and beta, this channel's seen tons of VIA/S3/SiS chipset users come through here. I think we've firmly held a 0% success rate with them.
#848 [17:52] <sugoi> ? what, no hat tip?
#849 [17:53] * GreyVulpine cattleprods sugoi as a consolation prize.
#849 [17:53] <sugoi> haha
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#851 [17:56] <okado> update my drivers no progress
#852 [17:56] <kittywitty1> Hey, I found out my account info has been publicly posted, and my account is migrated. I can't seem to change my password, can anyone please help me?
#853 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/438361-account-migration-issues
#854 [17:57] <Morrolan> https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#855 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> "If you have migrated your account, and are concerned that someone has access to your old password (because it cannot be changed after migration), please see the contact link below, and we can randomize the old password, "
#856 [17:57] <okado> still closes out as soon as login
#857 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#858 [17:57] <Morrolan> Wait, now I must have missed something.
#859 [17:57] <kittywitty1> Thanks
#860 [17:58] <Morrolan> What "old" password which can't be changed anymore? oO
#861 [17:58] <Morrolan> Oh, I see.
#862 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft.net and Mojang account. When migrating a..
#863 [17:58] <Morrolan> "At this time, it is still possible to log into the Minecraft game client with your username and old Minecraft password."
#864 [17:59] <Morrolan> So once you migrate your account, the old Minecraft-only account still continues to exist? oO
#865 [17:59] * GreyVulpine shrugs, seems so
#865 [17:59] <Morrolan> That is....
#866 [17:59] <Morrolan> Silly?
#867 [17:59] <Morrolan> Stupid? Makes no sense?
#868 [17:59] <Morrolan> Oh, whatever.
#869 [18:02] <okado> error report http://pastebin.com/gRzqP8fV
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#875 [18:04] <okado> grey
#876 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Still something funky with that video driver. I don't suppose you're running a Toshiba C660 laptop by any chance?
#877 [18:05] <okado> no im on asus g73jh
#878 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> From where did you update the drivers form?
#879 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> from*
#880 [18:06] <okado> amd website
#881 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> When you updated your drivers, did you need to restart your computer?
#882 [18:08] <okado> no not major updates so no need to restart but my last update i had restarted after
#883 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> I'd restart anyways. You usually need to with a video driver update
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#888 [18:22] * sugoi wonders which if number_of_tangents(circle) > sizeof(real_numbers)
#888 [18:22] <sugoi> s/which//
#889 [18:23] <okado> restarted no help
#890 [18:23] <okado> i was playing fine up till this update on minecraft
#891 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> The error report's only showing me an AMD/ATI video driver issue.
#892 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
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#894 [18:29] <okado> my video card is working fine i can run all other games ecept minecrft
#895 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Do all of your other games run OpenGL?
#896 [18:31] <okado> idk if wow, border lands or starcraft 2 do
#897 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> None of those do
#898 [18:31] <sugoi> directx
#899 [18:31] <sugoi> yay java...
#900 [18:31] <okado> lol
#901 [18:32] <okado> should i try unistal java and reinstal
#902 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Try deleting .minecraft again. Delete the launcher as well. Redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download and run it
#903 [18:33] <okado> k
#904 [18:33] <okado> k
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#908 [18:37] <okado> nope still not working is there a opengl dl i can do like direct x
#909 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> OpenGL is part of a driver package.
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#912 [18:58] * sugoi wonders what is infinity % 2
#912 [19:10] <kohlrak> sugoi: would this be in comp-sci or in reality?
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#914 [19:12] <okado> ok i fixed it i uninstaled my driver completly and reinstaled it man i hate ati
#915 [19:13] <okado> ty grey for the help
#916 [19:14] <sugoi> kohlrak: i gradudated CS many many moons ago
#917 [19:15] <sugoi> i'm just on some weird mental tangents at work today
#918 [19:15] <kohlrak> sugoi: invnum would be the mod in CS, in reality, it would be both 1 and 0
#919 [19:16] <sugoi> invnum?
#920 [19:17] <kohlrak> GreyVulpine: could you give me more information on your issue in a PM? This sounds like something a little more up my line personally
#921 [19:17] <kohlrak> sugoi: invalid number
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#923 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> Bwah?
#924 [19:17] <Morrolan> Generally I just tend to think that anything you to do with infinity returns infinity. Might not be mathematically correct, but saves me a lot of headache. :P
#925 [19:17] <sugoi> the "mod in CS" cs is a degree...so i'm not sure what you mean, NaN would be if you are holding infinity as a floating point
#926 [19:18] * GreyVulpine returns NaN
#926 [19:18] <sugoi> and secondly, % returns a whole number, not a qubit with two values 0 and 1 :)
#927 [19:18] <kohlrak> NaN.right. forgot what it wasn't (been a while since i've botherd with HLLs like C, Java, etc
#928 [19:18] <sugoi> C is high?
#929 [19:19] <kohlrak> GreyVulpine: i mean in regards to your graphics issues. If could see a pastebin with more info or something. =p
#930 [19:19] <sugoi> what is asm the only low level lang out there for you? :)
#931 [19:19] <sugoi> haha
#932 [19:19] <kohlrak> sugoi: yes =p
#933 [19:19] <Morrolan> kohlrak - I don't think he had an issue. Rather he was helping someone who had such an issue. :P
#934 [19:19] * sugoi rolls his eyes
#934 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> kohlrak - Was okado's problem. They solved it
#935 [19:19] <kohlrak> GreyVulpine: oh sorry. i was just glancing above and thought it was yours. XD
#936 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> Appreciate the offer though
#937 [19:20] <kohlrak> sugoi: to me, assembly needs assemler, C and up need copiler *AND* assembler =p
#938 [19:21] <kohlrak> (i actually like to call java and scripting languages as "abstract languages" simply because they aren't even assembled to a real machine)
#939 [19:22] <Wug> GreyVulpine: pretending minecraft is broken is fun
#940 [19:22] <Wug> I got Grim_Reaper earlier ytoday
#941 [19:22] <Wug> he thought I was a mibbit
#942 [19:22] * GreyVulpine hehs
#942 [19:23] <Wug> even though that was the second wug troll event in 3 days
#943 [19:24] <okado> ya it was drive updates the conflicted so they didnt work
#944 [19:25] <kohlrak> okado: how'd you get the driver updates?
#945 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> amd's website
#946 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> needed to uninstall/reinstall, rather than just update
#947 [19:26] <kohlrak> good boy. wanted to make sure you didn't get them through windows update (does MS even host those types of drivers anymore?)
#948 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> They never do
#949 [19:26] <kohlrak> they had beore
#950 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> Not updated ones. Especially not the latest ones
#951 [19:27] <kohlrak> i personally had a few issues because of getting graphics drivers from microsoft's automatic update feature
#952 [19:27] <kohlrak> heh
#953 [19:27] <kohlrak> well no
#954 [19:27] <kohlrak> but some people consider updating via AU "up to date'
#955 [19:28] <sugoi> ...
#956 [19:28] <sugoi> did kohlrak just give grey a 'good boy' pat ?
#957 [19:28] <sugoi> wtf?
#958 [19:28] <sugoi> speaking of trolls
#959 [19:28] * Morrolan pats GreyVulpine
#959 [19:28] <kohlrak> XD
#960 [19:28] <Morrolan> I think he gave the pat to okado though.
#961 [19:28] <kohlrak> yeah =p
#962 [19:28] * Wug Morrolans sugoi
#962 [19:29] <sugoi> haha
#963 [19:29] <Morrolan> Not that it makes a difference, "good boy" pats generally don't get across well.
#964 [19:29] <kohlrak> XD
#965 [19:29] <Morrolan> Don't you sugoi me, Wug!
#966 [19:29] <sugoi> haha
#967 [19:29] * GreyVulpine gnaws off Morrolan's hand
#967 [19:29] <Morrolan> Ouch. D:
#968 [19:29] <okado> ya i wish i was run ning nividia but i havent bought a video card yet
#969 [19:29] * Wug feeds GreyVulpine an iron golem
#969 [19:30] * GreyVulpine gnaws on said golem, adds bacon salt
#969 [19:30] <Wug> * clank clank clank clank
#970 [19:31] <kohlrak> okado: why not stick with the ATI?
#971 [19:31] * Morrolan Wikipedias Bacon Salt
#971 [19:31] <Morrolan> "J&D's Down Home Enterprises, also known as J&D's Foods, is an American company based in Seattle, Washington, that produces bacon-related products such as Bacon Salt and Baconnaise. " .... right.
#972 [19:32] * GreyVulpine prods Morrolan with: http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/bacon/
#972 [19:32] <Morrolan> Oh, god.
#973 [19:32] <Morrolan> Bacon lip balm.
#974 [19:32] <Morrolan> Bacon wallet.
#975 [19:32] <Morrolan> Bacon mints, even.
#976 [19:33] <Morrolan> I like my bacon as meat, thank you very much.
#977 [19:33] <kohlrak> XD
#978 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> Everything's better, with bacon
#979 [19:33] <kohlrak> yeah, whole bacon.
#980 [19:33] <okado> never liked ati grafics im a nividia person just my laptop came with ati
#981 [19:33] <kohlrak> Bacon exracts are not complete bacon.
#982 [19:33] <DiskDaemon> Bacon spray - http://www.thenibble.com/reviews/diet/sweeteners/david-burke-flavor-sprays.asp
#983 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Bacon.. spray?
#984 [19:34] <okado> bacon hat?
#985 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> "We first reported on his gourmet pops—smoked salmon, goat cheese, foie gras and cheesecake on a stick, a great contribution to entertaining."
#986 [19:34] * GreyVulpine walks.. away
#986 [19:34] <kohlrak> which reminds me, i have to buy my screen with built in GPU
#987 [19:34] <Morrolan> Err?
#988 [19:35] <Morrolan> What exactly are you doing with your screen that it'd need a built-in GPU?
#989 [19:35] <Xajin> Whats the command to set default spawn point?
#990 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> There is no such command in vanilla.
#991 [19:35] <Morrolan> Xajin - The Vanilla server doesn't have such a command.
#992 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> You would need to use a map editor like MCedit, or a mod like worldedit
#993 [19:35] * sugoi upvotes worldedit for setting spawn points
#993 [19:35] <Xajin> Thanks so much I have world edit, what would be the command using it?
#994 [19:36] <Xajin> I did look some ha ha
#995 [19:36] <Xajin> before asking
#996 [19:36] <Morrolan> WorlEdit... has a command to set the spawn?
#997 [19:36] <sugoi> um, been some time, but, /setspawn ?
#998 [19:36] <sugoi> or maybe with //
#999 [19:36] <Xajin> thanks so much
#1000 [19:37] <Xajin> its /setspawn
#1001 [19:37] <Morrolan> And... you're sure that this is WorldEdit and not some other plugin of yours?
#1002 [19:38] <sugoi> Morrolan: no
#1003 [19:38] <sugoi> hehe
#1004 [19:38] <sugoi> :) i'm not sure
#1005 [19:38] <sugoi> could be multiverse-core
#1006 [19:38] <sugoi> could bukkit
#1007 [19:38] <sugoi> but i thought it was worldedit
#1008 [19:38] <Morrolan> Multiverse has "/mv setspawn" to set a specific world's spawn I think, chances are it implemented "/setspawn" as well.
#1009 [19:39] <kohlrak> Morrolan: the screen it comes with an underdocumented interface, but i thought if i had to buy another one i'd get one with a GPU to take the load off the CPU
#1010 [19:40] <Morrolan> sugoi - It's not WorldEdit, my bets are on Multiverse. :)
#1011 [19:40] * GreyVulpine sighs, did a 1x200 long fence in a Cities in Motion map editor, only to place the corner section and find out he oriented the fences the wrong way.
#1011 [19:41] <Wug> ~.~
#1012 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Editor doesn't do click and drag either. it's placing 1x1 fence sections
#1013 [19:41] <Morrolan> Haha.
#1014 [19:41] <Morrolan> Ehm, sorry to hear that, GreyVulpine.
#1015 [19:41] * GreyVulpine shakes fist at Morrolan
#1015 [19:42] <kohlrak> XD
#1016 [19:42] <Morrolan> "Cities in Motion (CIM) is a city-based mass transportation simulator for the PC. Players operate their own transportation company, building a public network with a variety of vehicle types, including buses, trams, and subway trains." sounds a bit like Transport Tycoon, just with the focus being on public transportation.
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#1018 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Paradox, the company of CiM, did a free giveaway thing. Everybody got their free game yesterday
#1019 [19:44] <Morrolan> Ah. Interesting move for sure.
#1020 [19:44] <Morrolan> Enjoying it so far?
#1021 [19:45] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: still free?
#1022 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> It's basically Sim City, without having to manage buildings or roads
#1023 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> sugoi - Doesn't look like it, unfortunately.
#1024 [19:45] * sugoi crys a little
#1024 [19:46] <Morrolan> Sim City, that's one of these games which I never managed to be successful in.
#1025 [19:46] * sugoi notes that his irc persona is an alter-ego, and he doesn't actually cry IRL
#1025 [19:46] <sugoi> well, sometimes i do
#1026 [19:46] <Morrolan> I blame my relatively young age back when I was playing it. ;)
#1027 [19:46] <sugoi> :(
#1028 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#1029 [19:46] <Morrolan> And I am _not_ going to play it now, just to find out that I still won't suceed.
#1030 [19:46] <Morrolan> succeed*
#1031 [19:47] <Morrolan> Speaking of free games, GOG.com has a free giveaway of Fallout 1 at the moment.
#1032 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Have never played Fallout
#1033 [19:49] <sugoi> Morrolan: yeah, i need to download that before timeout
#1034 [19:49] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: nor have i
#1035 [19:49] <sugoi> fo3, on the other hand
#1036 [19:49] <Morrolan> I played Fallout 2 and 3, both were nice, though pretty different.
#1037 [19:49] <sugoi> guys heard of kerbal space ?
#1038 [19:49] <Morrolan> Yea.
#1039 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#1040 [19:50] <sugoi> wondering if i should put down the 15 bucks
#1041 [19:50] <Morrolan> Try the demo. *shrug*
#1042 [19:50] <sugoi> still up?
#1043 [19:50] * sugoi checks again
#1043 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Should be
#1044 [19:50] <Morrolan> I... don't think they'd just remove the old, free versions.
#1045 [19:50] <sugoi> ah
#1046 [19:50] <sugoi> on download
#1047 [19:50] <sugoi> thanks
#1048 [19:51] <Morrolan> Hmm, Amanita designs, are these the guys behind Machiniarium?
#1049 [19:51] <sugoi> you have to scroll down a touch
#1050 [19:51] <Morrolan> Yep, they are.
#1051 [19:51] <Morrolan> Guess I'll preorder http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/botanicula then, I very much enjoyed Samorost 1 & 2 as well as Machinarium.
#1052 [20:14] <sugoi> kohlrak: i'll accept your 1 and 0 and an answer, but not the right answer, i vote for the paradoxical undefined camp instead: http://books.google.com/books?id=K0GEm-yNwh0C&pg=PA18&lpg=PA18&dq=parity+of+infinity&source=bl&ots=8upTmZgOxB&sig=H8NjOZEiZ5ARy_vhiElPmIbQ3A4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=F4J_T_GqMOaliQLCs_GLAw&ved=0CEAQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=parity%20of%20infinity&f=false
#1053 [20:15] <kohlrak> not sure if it would really be a paradox, since you can't actually do it
#1054 [20:15] <kohlrak> paradox is something that actually can happen, but appears not to be possible
#1055 [20:16] <kohlrak> ... i think... XD
#1056 [20:16] <sugoi> refer to the link if you're interested
#1057 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> .def paradox
#1058 [20:44] <DiskDaemon> A paradox is a statement or group of statements that lead to a contradiction or a situation which (if true) defies logic or reason, similar to circular reasoning.
#1059 [20:49] <kohlrak> sugoi: i like the section on boring numbers. XD
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#1072 [22:38] <Hagoroth> Hello I recently came across a website called http://minecraftforfree.com/play.php which is offering minecraft for free. Is this site against the Minecraft Copyright and ToS?
#1073 [22:38] * VoxelHead kicked Hagoroth from #minecrafthelp (Reason: agoroth :Banned: Trying to steal)
#1074 [22:38] <sugoi> VoxelHead: give the guy a chance! :
#1075 [22:38] <sugoi> :)
#1076 [22:39] <Eddie> lol
#1077 [22:39] <Eddie> I came across a corpse the other day
#1078 [22:39] <Eddie> *banned for murder*
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#1083 [22:48] * GreyVulpine grumbles
#1083 [22:49] <sugoi> @ voxel?
#1084 [22:49] * GreyVulpine kicks Voxel
#1084 [22:51] * GreyVulpine snickers at ban set for "*!~wug@aquinas.student.rit.edu"
#1084 [22:53] <sugoi> heh
#1085 [22:56] <Eddie> aquinas
#1086 [22:56] <Eddie> I would like to talk to you about Thomas Aquinas!
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#1088 [23:07] <Jackson413> heyo GreyVulpine, could you lend some advice for the techshiz broski?
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#1092 [23:12] <Jackson413> Kealper, you there buddy? I need general tech advice.
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#1095 [23:18] <blakeman1> !check 199.30.49.2:25616
#1096 [23:19] <blakeman1> !check 199.30.49.2:25616
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#1098 [23:26] <Yaclive> Help!
#1099 [23:26] <Yaclive> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7cf3a456 -------- Generated 06/04/12 18:14 Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.5 OS: Windows 7 (amd64) version 6.1 Java: 1.6.0_31, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 OpenGL: null version null, null java
#1100 [23:26] <rev-lemon> hm, how long can you play till you get that error
#1101 [23:27] <Yaclive> Its on startup
#1102 [23:29] <Yaclive> Even if I delete my .minecraft
#1103 [23:29] <sugoi> opengl appears to be missing :)
#1104 [23:29] <sugoi> update your graphics card driver
#1105 [23:29] <Wug> its a graphics driver thing
#1106 [23:29] <Wug> :dx
#1107 [23:29] <sugoi> also, if there is more in the error, use pastebin and give us the url
#1108 [23:29] <WugBot> dx: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1109 [23:29] <WugBot> dx: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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